[Marin-d] Fwd: [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on Marin Desalination they are city council members here in marin
davidquinley at aol.com
davidquinley at aol.com
Sat Sep 12 08:48:00 PDT 2009
>Subject: Re: [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on
>Marin Desalination
> they are city council members here in marin
>To: shane que hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
>From: Luana Malone <luana_malone at dot.ca.gov>
>Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:19:49 -0700
>
>
>It is wonderful to hear that you find desalination as detrimental as Mr.
>Behrens had said during the one hour, on-the-phone remarks he made
>concerning the problems that "water department" faces/faced (and did not
>address due to "MONEY"). No one wanted to put out the money to renew the
>pipes to the houses in addition to the Almaden mine in San Jose from which
>the mercury was mined and sent up to the miners. Hence the mercury in the
>water, etc... Good luck. You have my best wishes on getting people
>onboard.
>
>
>Luana Malone
>District Property Control Officer
>Facilities Budgeting, Planning & Property Control Branch
>District 4
>510-286-5973 Phone
>510-801-1791 Pager
>510-286-6107 Fax
>
>
>
> shane que hee
> <squehee at ucla.edu
> > To
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> 09/08/2009 09:02 Desalination they are city council
> PM members here in marin
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> >Subject: Re: [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on
> >Marin Desalination
> > they are city council members here in marin
> >From: Luana Malone <luana_malone at dot.ca.gov>
> >Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:13:14 -0700
> >
> >Good morning,
> >
> >Desalination has been proposed by the "Marinites" for quite a number of
> >years. Again, to quote Mr. Behrens, "The Mar
inites have the money and
> >don't care". Also the damming of the water causes the brackish water
>since
> >there is no movement of the water to aerate the water. When I took
>Geology
> >I had to do a report. That is when I talked with Mr. Brehens at the Water
> >Department. He explained about the mercury in the water (delta, & in
> >Sacto). I sent you his name so that you would not receive a "rude
> >awakening" like this. Also since 2002 water in Malaysia and Burma is
>being
> >desalinated because there is no "fresh" water available. I don't know
> >what other resources other than Coast Guard, Fire Dept., military contacts
> >like I pursued for my Geology report. Good luck.
> >
> >Luana Malone
> >District Property Control Officer
> >Facilities Budgeting, Planning & Property Control Branch
> >District 4
> >510-286-5973 Phone
> >510-801-1791 Pager
> >510-286-6107 Fax
> >
> >
> >
> > shane que hee
> > <squehee at ucla.edu
> > >
>To
> > Sent by: gpca-ptf at marla.cagreens.org
> > gpca-ptf-bounces@
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> > [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) +
> > F.Greene Edit. on Marin
> > 09/08/2009 02:57 Desalination they are city council
> > AM members here in marin
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> > Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:51:05 -0400
> > From: davidquinley at aol.com
> > Subject: [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on Marin
>Desalination
> > they
> > are city council members here in marin
> >
> >
> > Marin Voice: Desalination is not the solution
> > By Ford Greene and Lawrence Bragman (friends)
> >
> > read it yesterday - worth reading
> >
> > Bragman is Fairfax City Council Member(and member of the marin
>green
> > party council, and 2nd alt. rep. to state party for the northsfbay
)
> >
> > Ford Greene San Anselmo City Council Member, a liberal dem.
> >
> >
> > Marin Voice: Desalination is not the solution
> >
> >
> > By Ford Greene and Lawrence Bragman
> > Posted: 09/04/2009 12:06:45 AM PDT
> >
> > The Marin Municipal Water District board's approval of the
> > environmental report clears the way for construction of a 15
>million
> > gallon-per-day desalination plant just north of the Richmond-San
> > Rafael Bridge, close to the Marin Rod and Gun Club.
> > Comprehensive examination of desalination's impact on our way of
>life
> > is overdue. Consciously choosing the best solution is imperative.
> > MMWD claims desalination can purify bay water, which is laden with
> > pharmaceuticals, pesticides and chemicals, including 11 million
> > gallons of treated sewage that the Central Marin Sanitary Agency
> > dumps daily into the bay, not far from the Rod and Gun Club pier
>and
> > the intended location of the desalination intake pipe.
> > We live in a water-limited place. MMWD's decision disregards the
> > financial, environmental and health costs of desalination.
> > Desalination would corporate-ize our future. Marin's economy won't
> > benefit - but a parade of out-of-county corporations, consultants
>and
> > attorneys will. Desalination's ultimate price tag of $400 million
> > over 30 years would perpetuate the capital- and energy-intensive
> > technology that has brought our planet to the brink of
>environmental
> > collapse. It would also discourage the array of emerging
>conservation
> > strategies for the management of our reservoirs and pipes and the
>use
> > of water in our homes and businesses.
> > Such strategies could employ hundreds of local trades-people and
> > residents.
> > Already the county's largest user of electrical power, operation
> > of the reverse-osmosis desalination plant could ultimately
>quadru
ple
> > MMWD's current usage. It would contribute to the very climate
>change
> > that threatens our future.
> > The process would cause unknown impacts on local fisheries from the
> > massive water extraction at its intake, to the discharge of its
>fluid
> > waste mixed with treated sewage.
> > When the solid waste that remains is trucked and dumped at the
> > Redwood Landfill in Novato, it's likely to leach back into the bay.
> > By both means, desalination waste would re-enter the bay in a
>closed
> > loop of recirculating toxins.
> > Finally, mixing desalinated fluid with our reservoirs' pure
>rainwater
> > would dramatically degrade the quality of drinking water we enjoy
> > every day. There is no assurance that desalination would adequately
> > cleanse the chemical and biological soup it draws from in order to
> > prevent harmful, long term, consequences to human health.
> > Some desalination proponents justify its costs by claiming that
>Marin
> > must fulfill an "obligation" to build almost 14,000 new housing
>units
> > commanded by the Association of Bay Area Governments. But those
> > claims ignore ABAG's questionable legal authority to enforce its
> > quotas in light of our actual environmental limitations. Do we
>really
> > want to commit millions of ratepayer dollars to subsidize further
> > development and congestion?
> > By building and supplying a huge bayside facility within range of
> > rising sea levels, by installing three 2-million gallon mixing
>tanks
> > at open space areas in San Quentin and Tiburon, and by constructing
> > the connecting pipelines, desalination will change the face of
>Marin
> > forever.
> > Instead of exercising its authority to protect our quality of life
>by
> > limiting growth and rapidly implementing state-of-the-art
> > conservation measures, MMWD chooses to impose on us a desalination
> >
"project" that will scar Marin's unparalleled beauty, habitat and
> > natural diversity.
> > Its toilet-to-tap approach would contaminate the water we drink.
> > A decision of such profound consequence requires democratic
>respect.
> > Such decision must be approved by a vote of the people, a vote
>which
> > MMWD has thus far sidestepped.
> > Desalination is no solution. We can live and prosper within the
> > limitations of our Mediterranean climate.
> > The money that MMWD will commit to a desalination megaproject would
> > be better invested in existing infrastructure and conservation.
> > Investment of ratepayer funds to increase efficiency, the use of
> > native plants, grey-water reuse and rainwater catchment would
>promote
> > a sustainable local economy which would also preserve the beauty
>and
> > productivity of our environment, particularly our water.
> > Proponents and skeptics alike must carefully and openly face all
>the
> > issues the big picture presents. Together, we must stop harming our
> > planet and help our county thrive.
> > Ford Greene is a member of the San Anselmo Town Council. Lawrence
> > Bragman is a Fairfax Town Council member
> > _______________________________________________
> > gpca-ptf mailing list
> > gpca-ptf at lists.cagreens.org
> > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ptf
>
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From: shane que hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
To: gpca-ptf at marla.cagreens.org
Sent: Sat, Sep 12, 2009 2:48 am
Subject: Re: [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on Marin Desalination they are city council members here in marin
>Subject: Re: [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on
>Marin Desalination
> they are city council members here in marin
>To: shane que hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
>From: Luana Malone <luana_malone at dot.ca.gov>
>Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:19:49 -0700
>
>
>It is wonderful to hear that you find desalination as detrimental as Mr.
>Behrens had said during the one hour, on-the-phone remarks he made
>concerning the problems that "water department" faces/faced (and did not
>address due to "MONEY"). No one wanted to put out the money to renew the
>pipes to the houses in addition to the Almaden mine in San Jose from which
>the mercury was mined and sent up to the miners. Hence the mercury in the
>water, etc... Good luck. You have my best wishes on getting people
>onboard.
>
>
>Luana Malone
>District Property Control Officer
>Facilities Budgeting, Planning & Property Control Branch
>District 4
>510-286-5973 Phone
>510-801-1791 Pager
>510-286-6107 Fax
>
>
>
> shane que hee
> <squehee at ucla.edu
> > To
> Sent by: gpca-ptf at marla.cagreens.org
> gpca-ptf-bounces@ cc
> lists.cagreens.or
> g Subject
> Re: [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP)
> + F.Greene Edit. on Marin
> 09/08/2009 09:02 Desalination they are city council
> PM members here in marin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Subject: Re: [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on
> >Marin Desalination
> > they are city council members here in marin
> >From: Luana Malone <luana_malone at dot.ca.gov>
> >Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:13:14 -0700
> >
> >Good morning,
> >
> >Desalination has been proposed by the "Marinites" for quite a number of
> >years. Again, to quote Mr. Behrens, "The Mar
inites have the money and
> >don't care". Also the damming of the water causes the brackish water
>since
> >there is no movement of the water to aerate the water. When I took
>Geology
> >I had to do a report. That is when I talked with Mr. Brehens at the Water
> >Department. He explained about the mercury in the water (delta, & in
> >Sacto). I sent you his name so that you would not receive a "rude
> >awakening" like this. Also since 2002 water in Malaysia and Burma is
>being
> >desalinated because there is no "fresh" water available. I don't know
> >what other resources other than Coast Guard, Fire Dept., military contacts
> >like I pursued for my Geology report. Good luck.
> >
> >Luana Malone
> >District Property Control Officer
> >Facilities Budgeting, Planning & Property Control Branch
> >District 4
> >510-286-5973 Phone
> >510-801-1791 Pager
> >510-286-6107 Fax
> >
> >
> >
> > shane que hee
> > <squehee at ucla.edu
> > >
>To
> > Sent by: gpca-ptf at marla.cagreens.org
> > gpca-ptf-bounces@
>cc
> > lists.cagreens.or
> > g
>Subject
> > [gpca-ptf] [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) +
> > F.Greene Edit. on Marin
> > 09/08/2009 02:57 Desalination they are city council
> > AM members here in marin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:51:05 -0400
> > From: davidquinley at aol.com
> > Subject: [GROW] L.Bragman(GP) + F.Greene Edit. on Marin
>Desalination
> > they
> > are city council members here in marin
> >
> >
> > Marin Voice: Desalination is not the solution
> > By Ford Greene and Lawrence Bragman (friends)
> >
> > read it yesterday - worth reading
> >
> > Bragman is Fairfax City Council Member(and member of the marin
>green
> > party council, and 2nd alt. rep. to state party for the northsfbay
)
> >
> > Ford Greene San Anselmo City Council Member, a liberal dem.
> >
> >
> > Marin Voice: Desalination is not the solution
> >
> >
> > By Ford Greene and Lawrence Bragman
> > Posted: 09/04/2009 12:06:45 AM PDT
> >
> > The Marin Municipal Water District board's approval of the
> > environmental report clears the way for construction of a 15
>million
> > gallon-per-day desalination plant just north of the Richmond-San
> > Rafael Bridge, close to the Marin Rod and Gun Club.
> > Comprehensive examination of desalination's impact on our way of
>life
> > is overdue. Consciously choosing the best solution is imperative.
> > MMWD claims desalination can purify bay water, which is laden with
> > pharmaceuticals, pesticides and chemicals, including 11 million
> > gallons of treated sewage that the Central Marin Sanitary Agency
> > dumps daily into the bay, not far from the Rod and Gun Club pier
>and
> > the intended location of the desalination intake pipe.
> > We live in a water-limited place. MMWD's decision disregards the
> > financial, environmental and health costs of desalination.
> > Desalination would corporate-ize our future. Marin's economy won't
> > benefit - but a parade of out-of-county corporations, consultants
>and
> > attorneys will. Desalination's ultimate price tag of $400 million
> > over 30 years would perpetuate the capital- and energy-intensive
> > technology that has brought our planet to the brink of
>environmental
> > collapse. It would also discourage the array of emerging
>conservation
> > strategies for the management of our reservoirs and pipes and the
>use
> > of water in our homes and businesses.
> > Such strategies could employ hundreds of local trades-people and
> > residents.
> > Already the county's largest user of electrical power, operation
> > of the reverse-osmosis desalination plant could ultimately
>quadru
ple
> > MMWD's current usage. It would contribute to the very climate
>change
> > that threatens our future.
> > The process would cause unknown impacts on local fisheries from the
> > massive water extraction at its intake, to the discharge of its
>fluid
> > waste mixed with treated sewage.
> > When the solid waste that remains is trucked and dumped at the
> > Redwood Landfill in Novato, it's likely to leach back into the bay.
> > By both means, desalination waste would re-enter the bay in a
>closed
> > loop of recirculating toxins.
> > Finally, mixing desalinated fluid with our reservoirs' pure
>rainwater
> > would dramatically degrade the quality of drinking water we enjoy
> > every day. There is no assurance that desalination would adequately
> > cleanse the chemical and biological soup it draws from in order to
> > prevent harmful, long term, consequences to human health.
> > Some desalination proponents justify its costs by claiming that
>Marin
> > must fulfill an "obligation" to build almost 14,000 new housing
>units
> > commanded by the Association of Bay Area Governments. But those
> > claims ignore ABAG's questionable legal authority to enforce its
> > quotas in light of our actual environmental limitations. Do we
>really
> > want to commit millions of ratepayer dollars to subsidize further
> > development and congestion?
> > By building and supplying a huge bayside facility within range of
> > rising sea levels, by installing three 2-million gallon mixing
>tanks
> > at open space areas in San Quentin and Tiburon, and by constructing
> > the connecting pipelines, desalination will change the face of
>Marin
> > forever.
> > Instead of exercising its authority to protect our quality of life
>by
> > limiting growth and rapidly implementing state-of-the-art
> > conservation measures, MMWD chooses to impose on us a desalination
> >
"project" that will scar Marin's unparalleled beauty, habitat and
> > natural diversity.
> > Its toilet-to-tap approach would contaminate the water we drink.
> > A decision of such profound consequence requires democratic
>respect.
> > Such decision must be approved by a vote of the people, a vote
>which
> > MMWD has thus far sidestepped.
> > Desalination is no solution. We can live and prosper within the
> > limitations of our Mediterranean climate.
> > The money that MMWD will commit to a desalination megaproject would
> > be better invested in existing infrastructure and conservation.
> > Investment of ratepayer funds to increase efficiency, the use of
> > native plants, grey-water reuse and rainwater catchment would
>promote
> > a sustainable local economy which would also preserve the beauty
>and
> > productivity of our environment, particularly our water.
> > Proponents and skeptics alike must carefully and openly face all
>the
> > issues the big picture presents. Together, we must stop harming our
> > planet and help our county thrive.
> > Ford Greene is a member of the San Anselmo Town Council. Lawrence
> > Bragman is a Fairfax Town Council member
> > _______________________________________________
> > gpca-ptf mailing list
> > gpca-ptf at lists.cagreens.org
> > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ptf
>
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