From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Dec 1 10:59:05 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:59:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Request for Agenda Items Message-ID: <438F47F9.2030509@earthlink.net> I am putting together the Agenda for this Tuesday's meeting (12/6). Please let me know if you have an item that you want included in the meeting. If you have an item, please give a short title, the name(s) of the presenter(s), and an estimated amount of time it will require. Thanks, Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Dec 2 01:19:09 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:19:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA Official Notice] Agenda Packet Message-ID: <4390118D.7020203@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions listed at the end of the email. The agenda packet for the Yolo County state meeting meeting is now available for download at http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ Please be sure to register online for this meeting by Wednesday. Counties are also reminded to submit your list of delegates online by Wednesday. From wrolley at charter.net Fri Dec 2 10:27:30 2005 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:27:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My favorite congressman Message-ID: <43909212.5010909@charter.net> I has found an interesting new wrinkle to the Pombo Story. He is a high ranking (seniority) member of a group labeled the Republican Study Committee, a source of much of the House Republican Legislative poop. He is also on the Agriculture Committee. The post discusses the cuts in the Federal budget that the Agriculture Committee pushed for inclusion in the recent Budget Reconciliation Bill. These did not make sense for a congressman who draws significant support from a rural, agricultural constituency. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From wrolley at charter.net Fri Dec 2 11:22:08 2005 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:22:08 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Labor Plank Message-ID: <43909EE0.80104@charter.net> Jim, I noted that Warner's notes from plenary issue discussion said the following about the labor plank. Platform plank #2 Rewrite of Unions statements in the Social Justice & Liveable Communities Section of the GPCA Platform. Comments by Jim Stauffer: More concerns about specialized and unclear language in this proposal. Written comments need to be forwarded to the Platform Committee. __ I will not be able to be at the County Meeting, but I would agree with you on this. I have a lot of concerns with this item. They begin with the unstated assumption that all union activity is good and that all corporate activity is bad. It is my experience, both as a union member and as a corporate manager that neither is the case. I have seen the seamier side of union behavior and it is not pretty. As I note below, any provision that does not allow the worker to opt out of being in a union that has become corrupt is not democratic. I find that this is a good reference for democratic unionism: http://www.uniondemocracy.com/pdfs/Democracy.PDF __ Here are some specifics: 1.? Repeal of the Taft-Hartley Act and "right to work" laws that restrict the right to organize unions. There are a lot of problems with the Taft-Hartley Act. However, if a worker were to feel that their union were corrupt and did not want to belong to that union, under these cases the worker could be forced to join the union or quit. Union shop agreements form a financial underpinning for corruption (e.g. Historical Teamsters and Longshoreman's unions). 3. ? Legislation to allow all American based workers to join the independent union of their choice through a "card-check" sign-up procedure. The term, independent union is undefined. Does this imply only that the union is not a "company union"? Does it imply the existence of many unions with the same bargaining rights for the same jobs at one company? 8.? The continued and secure existence of a fully government funded social security system. While a valid social justice issue, it does not belong under the heading of a "union" plank. 16. ? Legislation to facilitate workers and/or communities taking over closed plants and forming employee-owned businesses. This may keep jobs in a community, but how is this a "union" isssue any more than it is a Sustainable Development issue. B. Labor Organizing Strategies: 1.? The direct and democratic control of unions by their rank and file members. This may alleviate some of my concerns about the structure of the union, but we can't even implement this within GPCA. C. Labor Unions and the Environment: While the goals stated here are worthy, the facts are that unions, in the interest of creating new, often ephemeral jobs, support some of the most environmentally objectionable projects. In particular, I should mention the Teamsters Union support of all of the current proposals for offshore drilling, drilling in the ANWR, oil shale development, etc. In a similar manner, all of the building trade unions consistently support the rampant expansion of development anywhere, everywhere, as long as there are carpenter, electrician, etc. jobs. They continulally support the same politicians with their funds as the large scale developer and real estate interests. This proposal does not address the development issues in any manner. It is a first start at trying to prevent the jobs vs. environment conflicts, but it still needs a lot of work. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Dec 2 14:42:55 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:42:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Regional Rep Alternate Election Message-ID: <4390CDEF.8000100@earthlink.net> At the next GPSCC meeting (Tuesday) I will propose that the GPSCC endorse Mitch Smith for Alternate Regional Rep for Silicon Valley. And that it instruct the delegates to the Yolo plenary to elect him there. If anyone has concerns or questions, please let me know ASAP. Background info: Both Dana and Jean have resigned as alternates, so now I have no backup. The terms end in Spring 2006. I could really use some help with GPSMC, and having an alternate from GPSMC would help. GPSMC has already informed me that Mitch Smith is their choice. Gerry From TNHarter at aol.com Sun Dec 4 10:54:34 2005 From: TNHarter at aol.com (TNHarter at aol.com) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 13:54:34 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] An interview with Carol Brioulett Message-ID: <2a1.102ecdf.30c4956a@aol.com> http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/680/ -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Most recent change to my website: Added pictures of the Green Festival in San Francisco Nov. 5th. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:46:09 -0800 Size: 9950 URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Dec 5 09:47:59 2005 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 09:47:59 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Santa Clara County Greens Message-ID: <43947D4F.4030205@charter.net> Discusssion on the Cal-Forum Green Party list has recently (and rightly) focused on specific changes to the bylaws of the party that are on the agenda for decision making at the Yolo Plenary. One of the Proposals will change the voting requirement for "policy" proposals from 80% to 2/3's. What is being argued on Cal-Forum is more about the intention of the proposers more than the actual value of the proposal itself. The facts of this discussion raised enough question in my mind that I considered attending the County Meeting tomorrow in order to register my vote on the question. I am also very concerned about the candidate selection and endorsement process for 2006. With declining registration, it is critical that we put forward a strong slate of candidates and back that up with effective organization. __ Imagine my surprise when I discovered that I would not be allowed to vote any proposal that would be made in the name of the party. According to the bylaws of the GPSCC: 1.2 Only active members will vote in official county Green Party functions, should a vote be required according to the Consensus Process described in Article 6. Official functions shall be those at which decisions are made in the name of the Party. 1.3 An active member shall be a person who has attended 2 out of the last 5 meetings of the official functions at which (s)he wishes to vote. For example, a vote at a General meeting, a committee meeting, a local meeting, etc. Since, by definition of the bylaws, I am not an active member, I would not be allowed a vote because I do not regularly attend the County General Meeting. My question for all is whether this rule, if enforced, discourages participation by new party members or those who are at a geographic distance from the meeting site. This would seem to say that if you want to have a voice, you have to spend the time to come to the County Meeting on a regular basis, including for me, at least 45 minutes drive time each way. These provisions would act to prevent those who have a vital interest in a single issue from coming to a County Meeting to take some action on that issue. They would be allowed to talk, but not to vote if a decision were required. If not enforced, then should the rule be removed from the bylaws? Further, the bylaws state that: 8.2 The County Council, or a committee appointed by the County Council or designated at a general meeting, shall review these Bylaws in their entirety every two years for the purposes of proposing amendments and assuring that these Bylaws are consistent with the rules and Bylaws of the California Green Party. Has this been done? I do not remember it beins a discussion on this list over the last several years in which I have participated. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From andid at cagreens.org Mon Dec 5 08:25:54 2005 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:25:54 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: HR 550--Is this GP interest? Message-ID: <1ad1c8f3e5f11d0059a95a59e4b4568f@cagreens.org> Hi, GP members, Is this petition of interest to the GP? Should we try to sign it online here? Andrea Begin forwarded message: >>> Please take a look at Rush Holt's website: HR 550 is >>> an excellent >>> bill and has in it a LOT of what we need for >>> verified voting. They >>> are soliciting support right now, from you. Please >>> pass this email >>> along. >>> >>> http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html >>> >>> >>> >>> This bill is supported by Vote Trust USA, Verified >>> Voting, Voters >>> Unite: see the sidebar on the website, and read the >>> dear colleague >>> letters: they give you a sense of how the bills >>> progress as well as >>> what efforts are made to gain support. >>> >>> >> > > Andrea Dorey Santa Clara County Green Party Chinese Proverbs: "Serving the powerful is like sleeping with a tiger." "It is difficult to get off a tiger's back." From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Mon Dec 5 12:03:53 2005 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:03:53 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: HR 550--Is this GP interest? Message-ID: My quick read of this bill is that it's a tiny step in the right direction. Puts the approved buzzwords into law. "Voter verified paper trail." Unfortunately, I am not convinced that "voter verified paper trail" is an adequate defense against the threat of rigged voting equipment. Only paper ballots that are verifiable by both machine and people can do that, and "paper trail" stops significantly short of that. The only time the "voter" gets to "verify" the "paper trail" is a glance at a paper tape under glass in the seconds after she or he has just voted. And [s]he never gets to look at the whole "trail", only a tiny piece of it. What we need, to solve the rigged equipment problem, is a system that is INDEPENDENTLY AUDITABLE FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER, and routine end to end audits. I don't believe that can be done with proprietary software owned by a vendor and kept secret from the public. Nor is there really any reason to do it that way. (All we have is a *tradition* known as the "non-competition doctrine" that says government will never build something itself when it can buy it.) Rigged equipment with secret software can try to generate a fake "voter verified paper trail," and can sometimes succeed. "Voter verified paper trail" makes cheating through rigged equipment *harder* but doesn't stop it. (It's really tedious to lead you through an example of how that might be done. The OVC folks have done it.) H.R.550 has "mandatory audits" but they are not end to end so they can be just part of the show. Unless I missed it, H.R.550 doesn't address the problem of rigged tabulators. It doesn't do any good to "hand recount" the "paper trail" only to feed the recounted data into the same rigged tabulator. So the question of whether we should get behind this is really whether we get behind half-steps. It's better than nothing, but will it make it harder to get truly trustworthy voting? I think it's significant that Diebold and its competitors are now lobbying *for* "voter verified paper trail" in California. They know it's either that or a real solution, and they don't want the real solution. Cameron From wrolley at charter.net Mon Dec 5 16:31:58 2005 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:31:58 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Federal Land Sale Message-ID: <4394DBFE.1020600@charter.net> http://www.refpub.com/PomboWatch/archives/2005/12/mining_law_and_land_sale.html I have just updated PomboWatch with an slightly different look at the Mining Bill revision that is now so controversial. It should not have been a surprise. I took a look at the situation of the Western Shoshone Indian Nation and the forced governmental settlement of their claims under the Treaty of Ruby Valley. A trail of forced settlements, broken promises and the clear intent to privatize public lands. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Dec 6 10:56:23 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:56:23 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting Message-ID: <4395DED7.60308@earthlink.net> Proposed Agenda for County Meeting Tuesday, December 6, 2004 Location: Banjara Indian Restaurant - http://banjarainc.com 407 Town & Country Village, Sunnyvale Directions available at above web site 6:30 Socializing and Dinner 7:30 Meeting NOTE: The order of items in this agenda is not necessarily the order we will be discussing them. -- Preliminary Items -- Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and Vibes Watcher(s) (5) Introductions and Short Announcements (5) Revise and Affirm Agenda (5) -- Main Part -- 1. Treasurer's Report (5) Adam 2. State Party Business Plenary Delegates (5) Plenary Proposals (60) Alternate Regional Rep Election (5) Gerry 3. New Business Carol Brouillet - potential candidate (15) Carol Buttons (5) Jim D Email lists on front page of website? (5) Jim D Planning Meeting - review the year (5) Warner (Total scheduled time: 2 hours, 0 minutes) -- Future Events -- Next GPSCC meeting Tuesday, January 3, 2006? -- Disclaimer -- The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only. The actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e reached during the meeting because of time limits. Persons receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or the agenda sequence. Please share this information with individuals who do not have email. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Dec 6 12:17:42 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:17:42 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Santa Clara County Greens References: <43947D4F.4030205@charter.net> Message-ID: <4395F1E6.8020308@earthlink.net> Wes Rolley wrote: > Discusssion on the Cal-Forum Green Party list has recently (and rightly) focused > on specific changes to the bylaws of the party that are on the agenda for > decision making at the Yolo Plenary. > > One of the Proposals will change the voting requirement for "policy" proposals > from 80% to 2/3's. What is being argued on Cal-Forum is more about the > intention of the proposers more than the actual value of the proposal itself. > The facts of this discussion raised enough question in my mind that I considered > attending the County Meeting tomorrow in order to register my vote on the > question. How do you feel about the question about 2/3s vs. 80%? I think that at our special meeting to discuss the proposals we were generally, but not completely, in agreement that we did not want to see this changed. So will you be attending the meeting? > > I am also very concerned about the candidate selection and endorsement process > for 2006. With declining registration, it is critical that we put forward a > strong slate of candidates and back that up with effective organization. > __ > Imagine my surprise when I discovered that I would not be allowed to vote any > proposal that would be made in the name of the party. According to the bylaws > of the GPSCC: > > 1.2 Only active members will vote in official county Green Party functions, > should a vote be required according to the Consensus Process described in > Article 6. Official functions shall be those at which decisions are made in the > name of the Party. > > 1.3 An active member shall be a person who has attended 2 out of the last 5 > meetings of the official functions at which (s)he wishes to vote. For example, a > vote at a General meeting, a committee meeting, a local meeting, etc. > > Since, by definition of the bylaws, I am not an active member, I would not be > allowed a vote because I do not regularly attend the County General Meeting. > > My question for all is whether this rule, if enforced, discourages participation > by new party members or those who are at a geographic distance from the meeting > site. This would seem to say that if you want to have a voice, you have to > spend the time to come to the County Meeting on a regular basis, including for > me, at least 45 minutes drive time each way. These provisions would act to > prevent those who have a vital interest in a single issue from coming to a > County Meeting to take some action on that issue. They would be allowed to > talk, but not to vote if a decision were required. > > If not enforced, then should the rule be removed from the bylaws? I don't have time to respond adequately right now. Short answer, almost all GPSCC decisions are made by consensus, sometimes real consensus, sometimes with one or two stand-asides. Rarely do we go to a vote. When we have had a vote, we have allowed all Greens to vote. > > Further, the bylaws state that: > > 8.2 The County Council, or a committee appointed by the County Council or > designated at a general meeting, shall review these Bylaws in their entirety > every two years for the purposes of proposing amendments and assuring that these > Bylaws are consistent with the rules and Bylaws of the California Green Party. > > Has this been done? I do not remember it beins a discussion on this list over > the last several years in which I have participated. I think we have been remiss here. Gerry > > Wes > From rosasirius at yahoo.com Tue Dec 6 12:36:36 2005 From: rosasirius at yahoo.com (jodi embry) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:36:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Pomo: Federal Land Sale Message-ID: <20051206203636.85889.qmail@web31009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wish that greens would look to the use of these public lands as they did in BARC. Federal lands could be used to grow food or plants for animals (natural inhabitants) or alternative energy. "Private use and mining is not necessarily sustainable. Jodi S.C.Co Greens __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com From WB4D23 at aol.com Wed Dec 7 09:52:47 2005 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:52:47 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Report on GPSCC Plenary Delegates Selection; Registration Reminder Message-ID: <290.1753897.30c87b6f@aol.com> The following persons volunteered and were affirmed as Delegates and Alternates at next weekend's GPCA General Assembly: Delegates: Cameron Spitzer; Carol Brouillet; Jim Stauffer and Warner Bloomberg Alternates: Dana St. George; Gerry Gras; Tian Harter; Valerie Face Gerry Gras is the County Council member who agreed to report these selections to the agenda/credentials committee. REMINDER: The on-line registration deadline is TONIGHT! at midnight (11:59 pm) Wednesday December 7th. If you have not registered, go to cagreens.org/plenary/ for on-line registration and electronic access to the plenary packets (agenda items; travel and housing information (aka logistics); and the draft GPCA Elections Code). EVERYONE is welcome to attend this state meeting! You do NOT have to be a delegate!!! Our County has had the practice to discuss issues among everyone from our County attending a plenary when issues develop at the meeting. Also see the agenda schedule for working group and committee meetings. Important decisions and work happens at these meetings and participation is welcomed! Carpooling: People driving to the plenary are encouraged to offer carpooling for others. See you there!! Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Dec 7 15:00:30 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:00:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Report on GPSCC Plenary Delegates Selection; Registration Reminder References: <290.1753897.30c87b6f@aol.com> Message-ID: <4397698E.4050801@earthlink.net> I have reported these delegates and alternates to the host committee via the website delegates form. Gerry WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: > The following persons volunteered and were affirmed as Delegates and > Alternates at next weekend's GPCA General Assembly: > > > > Delegates: Cameron Spitzer; Carol Brouillet; Jim Stauffer and Warner > Bloomberg > > Alternates: Dana St. George; Gerry Gras; Tian Harter; Valerie Face > > > > Gerry Gras is the County Council member who agreed to report these > selections to the agenda/credentials committee. > > > > REMINDER: The on-line registration deadline is TONIGHT! at midnight > (11:59 pm) Wednesday December 7th. If you have not registered, go to > cagreens.org/plenary/ > > for on-line registration and electronic access to the plenary packets > (agenda items; travel and housing information (aka logistics); and the > draft GPCA Elections Code). > > > > EVERYONE is welcome to attend this state meeting! You do NOT have to be > a delegate!!! Our County has had the practice to discuss issues among > everyone from our County attending a plenary when issues develop at the > meeting. Also see the agenda schedule for working group and committee > meetings. Important decisions and work happens at these meetings and > participation is welcomed! > > > > Carpooling: People driving to the plenary are encouraged to offer > carpooling for others. > > > > See you there!! Warner > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 7 22:40:04 2005 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:40:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] brazenness in fundraising Message-ID: <4397D544.5070601@sbcglobal.net> Today's example is in Roll Call. House Democrats, who have attacked the GOP's "culture of corruption," deliberately placed a story in Roll Call headlined "House Democrats Redouble Wooing of K Street." http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1207-27.htm From smrfpwr at yahoo.com Wed Dec 7 20:47:47 2005 From: smrfpwr at yahoo.com (Amie) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:47:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Volunteer Opportunity: Garden Workday Message-ID: <20051208044747.28532.qmail@web33114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi everyone! On Saturday Dec 17th, I will be leading a volunteer Garden Workday at the Children's Discovery Museum Kids Garden. It will be down and dirty fun! The garden is in need of quite a bit of work. The workday will run from 9:30am to 12:00pm. You do not have to pay museum admission to participate. Just walk around the outside of the museum until you see the garden. Bring your friends! More info. The Children's Discovery Museum is located at: 180 Woz Way San Jose, CA 95110 The best way to get there is to take the Light Rail and get off at the Children's Discovery Museum stop (Duh). If you have to drive, there are a few 3 hour meter spots on Woz way that should be available if you get there by 9:30. Also, the downtown parking garages are free on the weekend. Hope to see you there! -Amie Frisch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From TNHarter at aol.com Thu Dec 8 10:33:55 2005 From: TNHarter at aol.com (TNHarter at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:33:55 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Dog discovers his leg exists. Message-ID: <199.4cb379ef.30c9d693@aol.com> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689366181727845562 -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Most recent change to my website: Added pictures of the Green Festival in San Francisco Nov. 5th. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Fri Dec 9 08:16:56 2005 From: wrolley at charter.net (wrolley at charter.net) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:16:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Pombo Watch Update: Bullshit from Pombo's Ranch Message-ID: <200512091616.jB9GGua29961@vp3.netgate.net> (((((((((((( Pombo Watch Update: Bullshit from Pombo's Ranch )))))))))))) 2005.12.09 08:16:56 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.refpub.com/PomboWatch/archives/2005/12/bullshit_from_pombos_ranch.html When the Budget bill appeared with the mining act revision in it, I published my own analysis and found that the Resoureces Committe under Pombo was playing fast and loose with the truth. Today's posting to PomboWatch is an update. 12 University Professors, all experts on Mining and Land Use law, have analyzed the provisions of this bill. Their conclusion: the Resources Commitee, Gibbons, Pombo and Wyoming Representative Barbara Cubin, are flat out lying to the American Public again and again. This legislation is a disaster. The falsity of the Resources Commitee Press Releases is proven again and again and still they continue. They have crossed a line. -- Powered by Movable Type Version 3.2 http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/ From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Dec 12 16:09:08 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:09:08 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [ppjc] Clemency - and humanity - DENIED] Message-ID: <439E1124.3000002@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ppjc] Clemency - and humanity - DENIED Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:19:29 -0800 (PST) From: Peninsula Peace and Justice Center Reply-To: Peninsula Peace and Justice Center To: In a decision devoid of any semblance of humanity, in an act of crass political maneuvering, Gov. Arnold Schwazenegger today denied clemency to Stanley Tookie Williams. Several local protest vigils are planned for today. A local list follows immediately below. We have also included a statement from Death Penalty Focus and a complete list of California demonstrations. Palo Alto 4 PM Vigil in support of Williams' life, on the eve of his scheduled execution. Bring candles, signs, and warm clothing. Some participants may choose to carpool to San Quentin. Corner of El Camino and Embarcadero Streets Palo Alto, CA Redwood City St. Matthias Parish 1685 Cordilleras Ave. Redwood City ,CA Ecumenical Service from 7-9pm San Quentin State Prison RALLY AT 8:00PM EAST GATE OF SAN QUENTIN You can park on Francisco Blvd. E. but expect to walk 1-1.5 Miles to get to the East Gate of San Quentin. Contact: stefanie at deathpenalty.org or 415-243-0143 DEATH PENALTY FOCUS STATEMENT: CLEMENCY DENIED Contact: Lance Lindsey, Executive Director (415.243.0143) Governor Schwarzenegger's decision to kill Stanley Williams is a shameful failure of leadership and a collapse of moral courage. It is politics-as-usual by one who claims to be above such cowardly power-mongering. How are we made safer by this mindless, brutal act? Killing Stanley Williams is a slap in the face to decent society, serving only to promote a cycle of violence that endangers everyone. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops recently called on our political leaders to break that cycle of violence and "abandon the illusion that we can protect life by taking life. The use of the death penalty," they said, "ought to be abandoned not only for what it does to those who are executed, but what it does to all society." Rather than making this crucial commitment, Governor Schwarzenegger instead washed his hands, Pilate-like, and ordered the extermination of a man who had become a force for good in our society and an example of hope for our misdirected youth. With the majority of the world's nations abandoning state killing, he who would be our leader chooses rank politics over justice, poisoning the hopes of our youth with the very needle that takes Stanley Tookie Williams' life. The people of California are increasingly concerned about the arbitrary application of the death penalty in our state. 73% support the suspension of executions while the faults in the death system are examined. Therefore, we strongly urge the immediate passage of the "California Moratorium on Executions Act" (AB 1121) which would temporarily suspend executions in California until the Legislature considers the findings of the California Commission on the Fair Administration of Justice. While this bill will not be considered in time to save the life of Stanley Williams, it will shine a light on the serious questions surrounding the application of the death penalty in California. With the specter of frequent and routine executions facing us, it is time for an accounting from political leaders who arrogate to themselves the right to take life. Having shown contempt for the life of Stanley Tookie Williams, Governor Schwarzenegger must not be allowed to kill the hope for true justice in our society, as we seek to embrace life and human dignity rather than the politics of death. All are encouraged to demonstrate TODAY, DECEMBER 12, 2005 Statewide Rallies and Vigils Against the Scheduled Execution of Stanley Williams Two new events have been added! More than 30 events are being held statewide! San Quentin State Prison RALLY AT 8:00PM EAST GATE OF SAN QUENTIN You can park on Francisco Blvd. E. but expect to walk 1-1.5 Miles to get to the East Gate of San Quentin. Contact: stefanie at deathpenalty.org or 415-243-0143 Los Angeles RALLY AT 6:00 P.M. WESTWOOD FEDERAL BUILDING 11000 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90024 (Corner of Veteran) MARCH AT 8:30 P.M. from Westwood Federal Bldg. to St. Paul the Apostle Church for a VIGIL (10750 Ohio Avenue,Los Angeles, CA 90024) Contact: EDeBode at la-archdiocese.org Sacramento VIGIL FROM 11PM to 12:30AM State Capitol Building 11th & L Streets Contact: stellalevy at sbcglobal.net Fresno Vigil begins at 5:30 PM in front of St. John's Cathedral Mariposa & R Streets, in downtown Fresno Contact: maria.telesco at att.net Riverside Vigil at St. Catherine of Alexandria Catholic Church Brockton & Arlington Riverside, CA 92506 Time: 9:00pm Orange Circle of Orange Chapman and Glassell Streets 5 PM - 12:15 AM City of Orange Orange County Tiburon Panel Discussion on the death penalty from the Jewish Perspective 8 - 10 PM Congregation Kol Shofar 215 Blackfield Drive Tiburon, CA Pasadena Vigil Against the Death Penalty! All Saints Church 132 N. Euclid Avenue Pasadena, CA 8:30-10:00 PM Contact: mtermaat at earthlink.net Redwood City St. Matthias Parish 1685 Cordilleras Ave. Redwood City ,CA Ecumenical Service from 7-9pm Palo Alto 4 PM Vigil in support of Williams' life, on the eve of his scheduled execution. Bring candles, signs, and warm clothing. Some participants may choose to carpool to San Quentin. Corner of El Camino and Embarcadero Streets Palo Alto, CA Oceanside Candle-light Vigil Mission San Luis Rey 4070 Mission Ave. Oceanside, CA 9:00 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. Participants are invited to bring readings to share with the group. Chico Silent Candlelight Prayer Vigil Children's Park - Downtown Begins at 7pm contact: amylourunge at earthlink.net San Diego Vigil Hall of Justice 330 West Broadway San Diego, CA 92101 3:45pm - 7pm San Jose March from the Mission Church in Santa Clara University Starting at 4:00PM End at the Cathedral in Market Street, San Jose South Pasadena AN EVENING OF PRAYER TO END THE DEATH PENALTY Holy Family Church 1501 Fremont Ave. South Pasadena,CA 91030 Begins at: 7:30 pm Opening prayer, Presentation of the play "Prison of the Mind" and discussion to follow the play For more information call the church at 626-799-8908 San Rafael Interfaith Service at St. Paul's Episcopal Church 1123 Court Street San Rafael, CA 7 pm San Rafael Interfaith Prayer Vigil at Dominican Sisters' Center 1520 Grand Avenue San Rafael, CA 8 pm - 10:30pm They will carpool to the East Gate of San Quentin to join the vigil there at 11 pm. For further information, call (415) 454-6491. Santa Barbara Candle-light vigil 7pm to 9pm Meet in front of Borders 900 State Street Santa Barbara, CA Ventura SILENT CANDLELIGHT VIGIL Ventura County Government Center Corner of Telephone Rd. and Victoria Ave. 8:00 p.m. - 12:30 a.m. Bring candles, warm clothing Contacts: DavidHoward at aol.com or francisco.romero at csun.edu El Cerrito Interfaith Prayer Vigil St. John the Baptist 11150 San Pablo Ave. El Cerrito, CA 7:30-8:30pm Refreshments and Carpool to San Quentin available. San Bernardino Candle light vigil 6:00 - 7:00 (outside) Interfaith Prayer service 7:00 - 8:00 (inside) Diocesan Pastoral Center 1201 E. Highland San Bernardino, CA 92405 Apple Valley 7:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. Prayer service 9:00 - midnight vigil Our Lady of the Desert 18386 Corwin Road Apple Valley, CA 92307 Los Angeles LA Catholic Worker Vigil LA Criminal Courts Building 300 N. Spring at Temple Los Angeles, CA 4pm-6pm Contact the LA Catholic Worker at 323-267-8789 San Dimas Catholics Opposed to Prisoner Executions Vigil from 7-9pm Holy Name of Mary Church 724 East Bonita Avenue San Dimas, CA 91773 Contact Curt Feese at (626)339-0170 Ojai Silent Candlelight Vigil 5:00pm-6:00pm at the "Y" (corner of Ojai Ave. and Maricopa Hwy) Meditation and Chanting 6:30pm-8:00pm at the Ojai Retreat (160 Besant Road) Please bring candles to the vigil and a sign, if you like, to respectfully show why you are at the vigil. Keep in mind it will be dark and probably cold. The meditation and chanting is open to all but will have a Zen Buddhist focus. For more information, email Kenley Neufeld at peace at neuhouse.com or call 805-252-2448 Chino Hills prayer vigil 5:30 - 6:30pm St. Paul the Apostle 14085 Peyton Drive Chino Hills, CA 91709 For directions call: 909-465-5503 San Luis Obispo Vigil Noon to 1pm In front of the Government Center on Monterey St. More info: fnolan at calpoly.edu Camarillo Prayer Vigil of Healing and Hope 7 pm St. Mary Magdalen's Church - Music Room At the corner of Las Posas and Crestview in Camarillo,CA Excerpts from "Redemption" and "Interview with an Executioner" will be shown. We will then walk 1 mile to St. Columba's in a silent procession (please bring lanterns or flashlights). We will continue with a prayer service at St. Columba's beginning at 8 p.m. For more information, please call Julie Morris at 805-488-3709 Inglewood silent vigil Holy Faith Church 260 N Locust St. Inglewood, CA starting at 7:00 pm San Francisco Vigil 9:15pm - 12:15 65 Ninth St. (Between Market and Mission Streets) San Francisco, CA All are welcome Hayward All Saints Church 2nd & D streets Hayward , Ca 94546 candles provided 8PM More info, call Jim @ 510-566-2349 ---------------------------------------- You are subscribed to this list as gerrygras at earthlink.net. To unsubscribe, send email to unsubscribe.66366.54596936.8858737540605408591-gerrygras_earthlink.net at en.groundspring.org. Our postal address is 457 Kingsley Ave Palo Alto, California 94301 United States From alexcathy at aol.com Mon Dec 12 16:46:39 2005 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:46:39 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Clemency - and humanity - DENIED In-Reply-To: <439E1124.3000002@earthlink.net> References: <439E1124.3000002@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8C7CD95CFEA48E5-4FC-1143D@FWM-D35.sysops.aol.com> And if I ever hear anyone describe that rightwing creep, Arnold Schwarzenegger, as a "Social Moderate" and "a different kind of Republican" ever again, I may need to be restrained. Except for "style" and a certain kind of bullshit that, unfortunately, appeals to some of my Euro-American brothers who ought to know better, there is not a dime's worth of difference between the "Governator" and George W. Bush. Alex Walker From eameece at california.com Sat Dec 10 20:03:36 2005 From: eameece at california.com (E. Alan Meece) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:03:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Clemency - and humanity - DENIED References: <439E1124.3000002@earthlink.net> <8C7CD95CFEA48E5-4FC-1143D@FWM-D35.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <439BA518.10ED@california.com> Yeah; our governator is a political lightweight and tool of corporate America. The death penalty and its use in this case underscores for me that we live in a semi-barbarian land. And we even have a self-titled "barbarian" as our governor! Eric the Green alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > > And if I ever hear anyone describe that rightwing creep, Arnold > Schwarzenegger, as a "Social Moderate" and "a different kind of > Republican" ever again, I may need to be restrained. Except for > "style" and a certain kind of bullshit that, unfortunately, appeals to > some of my Euro-American brothers who ought to know better, there is > not a dime's worth of difference between the "Governator" and George W. > Bush. > > Alex Walker > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From wrolley at charter.net Mon Dec 12 22:52:54 2005 From: wrolley at charter.net (wrolley at charter.net) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:52:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Pombo Watch Update: Slick rock, slick Pombo Message-ID: <200512130652.jBD6qs312013@vp3.netgate.net> (((((((((((((( Pombo Watch Update: Slick rock, slick Pombo )))))))))))))) 2005.12.12 22:52:53 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Just when you think it is safe to go back in the water, someone spots another fin. Today, I went... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.refpub.com/PomboWatch/archives/2005/12/slick_rock_slick_pombo.html I made several updates to PomboWatch today. I have started to provide some commentary on the possibility of a Republican primary contest. But, more importantly, I have added new material on Pombo's wild west energy plan. Not offshore, not ANWR, but 11,500 sq. mi. in Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. All in the pursuit of more oil using the most environmentally destructive, economically questionalbe methods available. -- Powered by Movable Type Version 3.2 http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/ From alexcathy at aol.com Wed Dec 14 06:37:35 2005 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:37:35 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Notes on Clemency Message-ID: <8C7CED30ED565E5-18C-EC7F@FWM-D19.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, Check this out. Q: Who was the last California governor to commute a death sentence and when. A: Republican Governor Ronald Reagan in 1967 Q: Who was the California governor who granted parole to only five inmates and publicly stated he did not believe that murderers deserved a second chance? A: Democratic Governor Gray Davis Q: Who was the California governor who allowed the parole of 114 inmates including 23 convicted of murder? A: Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger You say you think the death penalty is barbaric? Go Green! From TNHarter at aol.com Wed Dec 14 10:06:07 2005 From: TNHarter at aol.com (TNHarter at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:06:07 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Ocean Restoration Message-ID: <266.26a4d5c.30d1b90f@aol.com> > >Russ George & William G. Coleman > >Ocean Restoration > >? >Russ George is CEO and chief scientist of Planktos, an organization ramping >up to become a major commercial player in the carbon offset field by developing >innovative carbon credit products for deployment and marketing worldwide. ? >Russ has worked in science, especially environmental and energy science, for >the past 30 years, specializing in technology transfer of academic discoveries >into practical applications. > >Russ has managed projects such as large scale reforestation and land >reclamation in the forestry and mining industry, and development of ocean >fisheries enhancement and aquaculture. He has worked as a scientist in >frontier energy physics and as a visiting scientist in National Laboratories in >the United States and Japan. He is often interviewed by the media on the >future of energy and environment, and has given invited speeches to such >organizations as the US Department of Defense (SecNav), NASA, >Department of Energy, Electric Power Research Institute, as well as >similar organizations in Japan and Europe. > >Russ is also an award winning producer, writer, and director of films and >television especially focusing on environmental topics in both the United >States and Canada. He is an avid ocean sailor, explorer, naturalist, and >long ago stood night watch for a time at the wheel of the late Rainbow Warrior. > >Russ will give an overview of why ocean restoration is necessary, and how >Planktos' launch of significant ocean iron fertilization projects will sequester >vast amounts of carbon and help buy us time to make the needed political >and policy changes to address global warming. > William G. Coleman began the talk by explaining Planktos is a Half Moon Bay Company founded by people that have been deeply involved with ocean protection work for a long time. The company gets its financial reason for being from the Kyoto Protocol, which went into effect earlier this year. The greenhouse gas (GHG) mitigation credits make it economically feasible to make money by pulling CO2 out of the atmosphere. Then he introduced Russ George, the companies CEO and Chief Scientist, who went from there. Russ began by explaining that one of the consequences of higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere is a slight change in the pH levels of the oceans, meaning they are becoming slightly more acidic. This is a problem for phytoplankton, because the chemical mechanisms they use to build their shells require a neutral pH environment to work. This effect has already cut into the food supply at the base of the ocean food chain by enough of a percentage that it could be one of the reasons that the big fisheries (along with overfishing) have collapsed. He sees this as yet another reason we need to sequester as much of the carbon we have put in the atmosphere as possible. Then Russ explained that the limiting reagent in ocean algae growth is iron. He showed us pictures of dust storms that blew dust (3% iron) from the Gobi desert to the Pacific and Indian Oceans that were followed by large algae blooms. He explained that he was able to create the same effect by dropping a very thin solution of finely ground hematite (half micron size 70% iron dust particles) in salt water off the back end of Neil Young's yacht. He showed us satellite pictures of that type of bloom, a small bright blob (about 30 miles square) compared to the natural bloom, which was much bigger (thousands of miles across) and much more diffuse. Russ explained that for every ton of hematite that is carefully spread on the ocean, about 300,000 tons of CO2 are pulled out of the atmosphere by algae, making this an extremely cost effective way to remediate climate change. Planktos expects to make money by selling carbon sequestration credits to companies that need them to offset their GHG emissions. Such credits are already for sale on a number of commodity markets like the one in Chicago. The company hopes to accomplish mitigation of global warming, normalization of ocean temps., rebalancing of ocean pH, revitalization of ocean fertility, and restoration of healthy food chains through their work. At the moment they are looking for investors and speaking opportunities to spread the word about their work. During Q&A a number of interesting points came up: The Gulf Stream, the Atlantic current that feeds the upper oceans has slowed down 30% indirectly because of global warming. What happened was that the warming caused ice melting, which resulted in more water at higher latitudes, which reduced the gradient that had caused the current to flow. Aeolian (dust storm) deposition of iron in the Pacific has been on the decline because of soil conservation programs in China & Mongolia. It used to be that the only Countries opposed to Kyoto were USA, Monaco, Liechtenstein, and Australia. However, Australia has recently changed its mind, so now the only opposition comes from the USA, Monaco and Liechtenstein. Ocean algae long ago evolved to bloom in the presence of higher iron levels. It does no harm to the oceans to cause these blooms. It is only a few days after the ocean is fertilized that the smell of fresh mowed grass comes up as an algae bloom develops. A bloom can last a few months, but some of the carbon sequestered will stay out of the atmosphere for many years. For more information please visit: http://www.planktos.com To request a speaker, please contact bill (at) planktos (dot) com. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Most recent change to my website: Added an online version of my new political flier. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Dec 15 15:06:57 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:06:57 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Alternate Process to Elect Regional Rep (and Alternates) Message-ID: <43A1F711.8080903@earthlink.net> Last Saturday our Regional Caucus at the Yolo Plenary agreed to consider an alternative process for electing the Regional Rep and Alternate Regional Rep(s). At the GPSCC CC meeting on Tuesday, we agreed to have a discussion online about what that process might look like. So this email is to start that discussion. NOTE: The next election is scheduled for the next plenary in the Spring, possible early April. The GPCA bylaws state: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7-1.5 Selection of Regional Members Regional members shall be selected by regional caucus of delegates at General Assemble meeting, unless the active counties of a region select another process. Any such alternative process must be consistent with the ten key values, GPCA bylaws, and California law: and approved by all the County Councils of the active councils of a region: and filed with the Coordinating Committee and the Bylaws Committee. Regions with two or more seats are encoouraged to strive for gender balance. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Up to now, our official process has been the standard GPCA bylaws default of deciding during the Regional Caucus. Here are my thoughts, in no particular order. 1) Decentralization is one of the 10KV. Currently only the most active members of the county are involved in the election process. By decentralization, maybe we should involve all registered Greens in the County. And it would be good if we could allow them to participate without requiring a lot of travel. So election by mail? 2) Timeline. To allow time to have a thoughtful process we should provide more time for nominations and elections. Maybe something like this: - 12 weeks before plenary - Announcement of Election and Request for Nominations - 8 weeks before plenary - Closing of Nominations and start of campaigns - 6 weeks before plenary - Mail ballots to all Greens in region - 2 weeks before plenary - Deadline for ballots to be in the mail 3) Respect for Diversity One of the 10KV is respect for diversity. We should encourage that in this election process. But how? 1) Nomination Process? and/or 2) Vote Counting? How important is it to have diversity in terms of .. 1) Gender? 2) Which County the rep is in? 3) Race? etcetera And don't forget we don't get many candidates willing to take the job, so in practice we may have little or no flexibility re diversity. 4) Multiple Alternates The GPCA currently allows for multiple alternates, but the relative position needs to be specified (1st alternate, 2nd alternate, ...) How many should we allow? 5) Election Procedure IRV is the standard method when there is one seat. Choice voting is the standard for a fixed number of seats, all equal. But we have multiple unequal seats. I don't know of any precedent for this. I assume that voters would get 1 ranked ballot each, but I don't know yet how to count the ballots. Maybe: - for Regional Rep use IRV - for 1st Alternate use IRV with the elected rep "disqualified" - for 2nd alternate use IRV with the rep and 1st alternate "disqualified" Your thoughts? Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Dec 15 23:51:42 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:51:42 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [gpsmc-cc] Goals for Regional Rep Selection and Duties] Message-ID: <43A2720E.5070403@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpsmc-cc] Goals for Regional Rep Selection and Duties Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: James Shannon Reply-To: GPSMC CC To: gpsmc-cc at cagreens.org Hi Everyone, As Gerry mentioned, there was a consensus at our regional meeting in Davis that SCC and SMC would like to revamp our process of selecting the regional and alternate representatives. Furthermore, we wanted this new process to take effect when Gerry and Mitch's terms expire at the next plenery. So, a little haste is required. SCC and SMC agreed to independently come up with our own goals of how the process should work and what is expected of the representatives. Then several people from each county would try and hash out an agreement (bylaws, perhaps) that would lead to consensus by both county councils. Because we want to have the new method in place by the spring plenery and give adequate time to search for candidates, we're working with a short time line. Goals for each council need to be outlined by the end of December. The appointed members from each council n! eed to draft language during January so they can be presented to the county councils for comments in February, with the goal of a final agreement no later than March. As I am out of school through the month of January, I volunteer to spearhead this effort. If we can post what we would like to see accomplished with these new bylaws, I'll summarize these goals and present them by the end of next week. In that time, individuals who would like to help in this effort can make themselves known. We can then contact our counterparts from SCC and set about drafting language. 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Items below are taken from the Elections Code for the State of California and from the Bylaws of the Green Party of California, and some counties ??? depending on size and/or bylaws considerations ??? may have different electoral processes. All of which is to say, it is imperative that you check with your county clerk and/or county elections department as well as your Green Party county organization for details, schedules and deadlines that may be unique to your county or county's Green Party organization. For petitions and forms to be submitted on behalf of your candidacy, contact your county clerk and/or county elections department. CANDIDATE NOMINATION PERIOD for the June 6, 2006 Primary Election is February 13 to March 10: Persons who want to run for any office on the ballot, including incumbents running for re-election, must file Candidate Nomination Documents during this time period. Forms are obtained from and filed with the County Clerk/Elections Department. (California Elections Code ?10510, 13307, 13311). GREEN PARTY BYLAWS CONCERNING COUNTY COUNCILS: The section of the state bylaws dealing with County Councils can be found in Section 4. References to the bylaws in each item below are in parenthesis. Number of signatures on a petition to file for candidacy: The number of sponsors (signers of petition for candidacy) to be a candidate for County Council shall be the LESSER of 20 validated signatures of registered Greens or signatures totaling 2 percent of the number of registered Greens in the County Council election district (Section 4-1.11a-b). Number of members on a county council: The number of members on a County Council is determined as follows: If the county has less than 150 registered Greens, the number of members elected to that county's County Council will be three (3). Otherwise, the number of members of a County Council to be elected shall the GREATER of seven (7), or the integer nearest the resulting quotient obtained by dividing 100 times the number of registered Greens in the county by the number of registered Greens in the state (Section 4-1.3) Registration figures are taken from the the statement of voters and their political affiliations transmitted by the county clerks to the Secretary of State on the 135th day prior to the primary election (Section 4-1.2). Nuts and bolts: -- Candidates have to be registered Green and must reside in the county in which they are running (Section 4-1.9b). -- Counties are encouraged to hold caucuses to choose a slate of gender-balanced candidates (Section 4-1.1a) -- For any further questions regarding Green Party policies on County Councils, please refer to Section 4 of the bylaws of the Green Party of California or contact the Liaison to the Secretary of State at larrycafiero at cagreens.org -- For any further questions regarding an individual county's election rules and laws, contact your county clerk or registrar of voters. ========== memo end ========== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Dec 18 14:08:56 2005 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:08:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] quote of the day Message-ID: "The highest form of patriotism is to engage your own government in the test of debate." Rober Ebert, on his movie review show, yesterday. Cameron From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Dec 19 14:24:07 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:24:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA Official Notice] Potential Candidates and County Green Parties Message-ID: <43A73307.4040307@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Sclara-cc] [GPCA Official Notice] Potential Candidates and County Green Parties Resent-To: contacts2 at cagreens.org Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:18:33 EST From: "New contacts list 10 Apr '04" This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. 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While Pombo and his committee focus on Indian Gaming question, the Bureau of Indian Affairs runs out of money for the social programs that they contracted to provide. Pombo has direct control over which bills are sent to committee or sub-committee for review. If thigs go right, he should get credit. When they fail, he should thak the hit. I also alert everyone that a John McCain lobbyist relations bill, triggered by the Abramoff scandal, will go to the Resources Committee. It will be interesting to watch. -- Powered by Movable Type Version 3.2 http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/ From vdf at juno.com Tue Dec 20 13:31:38 2005 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:31:38 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Buy Union for the Holidays Message-ID: <20051220.133140.10327.193326@webmail50.lax.untd.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 25 17:21:39 2005 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:21:39 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] msg via website Message-ID: <43AF45A3.8080509@sbcglobal.net> testing a posting without subscribing not much of a test since I am already subscribed From andid at cagreens.org Mon Dec 26 09:41:53 2005 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:41:53 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Diebold's Problems Message-ID: FYI, in case you have not seen this. Andrea Begin forwarded message: [It appears that California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson has > changed his stripes, and is now causing Diebold massive problems. > Below this article, see an extract about the test of the Diebold > machine in Florida, referred to here] > > From: Black Box Voting, Dec 20 > > BREAKING -- California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson has laid a > subtle and elegant trap. > > Today, California threw Diebold Election Systems' pending > certification into a tailspin, using Machiavellian logic designed to > cast doubt on the federal testing lab process, the upcoming HAVA > deadline and Diebold voting systems simultaneously (while standing > neatly aside to watch the house of cards collapse). > > This move follows on the heels of a devastating hack demonstration by > Harri Hursti sponsored by Black Box Voting, which took place in Leon > County, Florida on Dec. 13. This hack manipulated memory cards by > exploiting design defects and Diebold's customized "AccuBasic" > program code. > > Here's how the California trap works: In a terse letter to Diebold, > State elections chief Caren Daniels-Meade writes, > > "Unresolved significant security concerns exist with respect to the > memory card used to program and configure the AccuVote-OS [optical > scan] and the AccuVote-TSX [touch-screen] components of this system > because this component was not subjected to federal source code > review and evaluation by the Independent Testing Authorities (ITA) > who examined your system for federal qualification. It is the > Secretary of State's position that the source code for the AccuBasic > code on these cards, as well as for the AccuBasic interpreter that > interprets this code, should have been federally reviewed. > > "Swe are requesting that you submit the source code relating to the > AccuBasic code on the memory cards and the AccuBasic interpreter to > the ITA for immediate evaluation. We require this additional review > before proceeding with further consideration of your application for > certification in California." > > And herein lies the trap. Federal testing authorities are supposed to > rely on standards set by the Federal Election Commission. The FEC > standards prohibit "Interpreted code" - thus, the AccuBasic > "interpreter" is illegal. (The entire AccuBasic source code tree is > written in a home-brewed language that Diebold programmers made up > themselves, making it more difficult for certifiers to examine.) > > The Hursti memory card attack demonstrated in Leon County Florida > manipulated the voting system by passing code through -- drum roll > please -- the Diebold interpreter, using a set of programs called > AccuBasic which was written in a concocted computer language and (now > it is revealed) was never examined at all by federal testing labs. > > The ITA dilemma: ITAs have the choice of either recommending code > that explicitly violates FEC standards (placing an unsupportable > liability burden on them) or admitting that the original > certification was defective. If the ITAs retract their > recommendation, it will effectively strip Diebold of its federal > certification, and may also affect its older products. > > The Diebold dilemma: Diebold can refuse to submit its code to the > ITAs, but that will lose the state of California, continuing a > pattern initiated last week when two Florida counties dumped their > Diebold machines. Alternatively, Diebold can submit its code and > watch as the federal authorities sever their product line from the > U.S. market. > > The position is made more unstable because Diebold is now fending off > stockholder suits by an armload of attorneys piling on to solicit > clients for a voting machine-related securities fraud lawsuit. > > 15656.html> > ========================= > > (Volusia County FL) > A test election was run in Leon County on Tuesday with a total of > eight ballots. Six ballots voted "no"... Two ballots, cast by Dr. > Herbert Thompson and by Harri Hursti voted "yes".... > > At the beginning of the test election the memory card programmed by > Harri Hursti was inserted into an Optical Scan Diebold voting > machine. A "zero report" was run indicating zero votes on the memory > card. In fact, however, Hursti had pre-loaded the memory card with > plus and minus votes. > > The eight ballots were run through the optical scan machine. The > standard Diebold-supplied "ender card" was run through as is normal > procedure ending the election. A results tape was run from the voting > machine. > > Correct results should have been: Yes:2 ; No:6 > > However,... the results tape read: Yes:7 ; No:1 [reflecting the votes > that were pre-loaded onto the card rather that what the actual > ballots said] > > 15595.html> > > Andrea Dorey Santa Clara County Green Party Chinese Proverbs: "Serving the powerful is like sleeping with a tiger." "It is difficult to get off a tiger's back." From jsheldon at ucsc.edu Mon Dec 26 09:50:48 2005 From: jsheldon at ucsc.edu (James Richard Sheldon) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:50:48 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SB 840/green party Message-ID: I noticed that the Santa Clara County Green Party has endorsed SB 840, but I don't see the State Green Party on the list of endorsers. How would we go about getting that endorsement? -James From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Dec 26 12:28:12 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:28:12 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SB 840/green party References: Message-ID: <43B0525C.1060405@earthlink.net> James Richard Sheldon wrote: > I noticed that the Santa Clara County Green Party has > endorsed SB 840, but I don't see the State Green Party on > the list of endorsers. How would we go about getting that > endorsement? > > -James > I sent a query to the GPCA Coordinating Committee. Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Dec 26 13:41:24 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:41:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SB 840/green party References: Message-ID: <43B06384.8020800@earthlink.net> James Richard Sheldon wrote: > I noticed that the Santa Clara County Green Party has > endorsed SB 840, but I don't see the State Green Party on > the list of endorsers. How would we go about getting that > endorsement? > > -James FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [GPCA-CC] [GPCA-MediaComm] SB840 - Single Payer Health Care Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:23:12 -0800 From: civillib at cwnet.com Reply-To: GPCA Coordinating Committee To: , , GPCA Coordinating Committee We've written several releases specifically about SB840...but, as I understand it, the author pulled it at the end the of the session and is rewriting it for the next session. Is there any other news information we can use for a new release that someone knows of?? Cres At 12:50 PM 12/26/2005 -0800, highdesertgreens at verizon.net wrote: >I'll think media committee has; will forward this for confirmation. > >Tom Bolema > >> From: Gerry Gras >> Reply-To: GPCA Coordinating Committee >> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:26:09 -0800 >> To: GPCA Coordinating Committee >> Subject: [GPCA-CC] SB840 - Single Payer Health Care >> >> >> Has the GPCA said anything about SB840, (Single payer health care bill)? >> >> http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_840&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen >> >> Gerry >> From TNHarter at aol.com Wed Dec 28 21:33:33 2005 From: TNHarter at aol.com (TNHarter at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:33:33 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Have you heard about this story? Message-ID: <2b.129552b.30e4cf2d@aol.com> http://www.trearrow.org I was surprised... Tian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Having said that, I am nevertheless prepared to publicly declare that if the Democrats nominate another pain-in-the-ass "moderate" like Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008 I'll be right back in the streets campaigning for our Green Party candidate. Even five years of "Dubya" and two years of Arnold have not changed my opinion of clueless Democrats one bit. Alex From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Dec 30 10:01:28 2005 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:01:28 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] New Year countdown clock References: <1d4.4b6a6f9a.30e5cd84@aol.com> <8C7DB7148A68277-B64-12913@FWM-M05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <43B575F8.5020206@earthlink.net> alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > The only countdown that really matters is the months, weeks, days, > hours, and minutes until the end of Bush's term. > > Having said that, I am nevertheless prepared to publicly declare that > if the Democrats nominate another pain-in-the-ass "moderate" like > Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008 I'll be right back in the streets > campaigning for our Green Party candidate. Even five years of "Dubya" > and two years of Arnold have not changed my opinion of clueless > Democrats one bit. > My, my, you have a problem with the junior U.S. Senator from New York?!? The one who recently polled her constituents on important issues of the day, and Iraq was not included? And didn't she advocate sending MORE troops to Iraq? Oh, well.... Gerry From WB4D23 at aol.com Fri Dec 30 14:51:05 2005 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:51:05 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Requests for Agenda Items at the Jan 3rd GPSCC Monthly Meeting Message-ID: <295.315320e.30e713d9@aol.com> Review of functions of County Council and canvass for candidates Discuss local Fair Wage Campaign strategy Bylaws change re Regional Rep (GPCA CC) selection process 2006 Tabling Calendar Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: