[Sosfbay-discuss] Now for something completely spiritual!

Fri Aug 18 10:15:30 PDT 2006

(  MATHEW 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.  )

  ***  words of Jesus are  very much 'From the Bible' (hello!)  ***

  ba 
  I observe that the New Testament and in particular the words of Jesus
are very much 'From the Bible' (hello!) and for a real Christian (not
so much for Dominionists) of pivitol import and that the inscrutable
Old Testament passages like the one you plucked out (of context I must
add) take a very, very back seat in importance. It is the New
Testament (Bible) that asserts "God is Love." I Jn 1:15 and the New
Testament that is chalk full of this understanding of God. So lets not
create some kind of straw man argument by taking a nonrepresentative
group (ie/ trying to substitute Dominionists for Christians) and then
try to pin their craziness on the mainstream and try to pretend that is
some kind of valid argument against the mainstream group or their
sacred book. This would be every bit as prejudicialy off-base as when
red-necks try to say that all Muslims are 'Terrorists' and looky here
at this out of context koran reference to prove it!

Love and Peace to you all!

Drew

--- Bob Alavi wrote:

> Just a couple of quotes:
> 
> From bible:
> 
> God Will Kill Everything and Everyone
> (Zephaniah 1:2)
> "I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD.
> "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of
> the air and the fish in the sea will die... "
> 
> From JamBoi: "A Million Votes for Peace!"
> 
> Drew Buddy, we all do much better together without the bible than
> with it.
> JamBoi wrote:
> > JamBoi wrote:
> > While not specifically presented as 'Christian' this has more in
> > common
> > with Jesus' The Christ's teachings than any Dominionist
> > Reconstructionist ever will. Check it out!
> > 
> > http://www.positivepause.com/en/
> 
> --- Bob Alavi wrote:
> 
> > Thank you. 
> > That reference seems to point to a different source than bible. 
> > Love and Peace (that the reference seems to promote) were never
> > even being disputed. They have an innate and eternal power that
> > stands on its own regardless of "bible". 
> > The Biblical edicts resulting in "non-loving", non-peaceful", 
> > violent acts were being depicted.
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> 
> This goes back to what I was getting at in my discussion about
> Dominionism. While not directly evoking the words of Jesus (from the
> Bible), the link I shared closely maps to Jesus'(Biblical) teachings
> and its exactly what you will NOT FIND IN DOMINIONISM as I was saying
> earlier. What could possibly be more 'biblical' and 'Christian' than
> the words of Jesus, The Christ himself??? Yet Dominionism though it
> purports to be 'biblical' and 'Christian' focuses almost all its
> scriptural energy/authority on the Old Testament and not-Jesus parts
> of
> the New Testament bible and even then takes an extremely
> literalistic,
> cramped and cribbed, out of cultural, historical and even textual
> context interpretation of biblical proof texts to justify its
> Anti-Christ (anti-love and anti-peace) doctrine.
> 
> If one closely examines the alleged quotes of Jesus in the New
> Testament Bible one finds the vast proponderance of his teaching is
> precisely about Love and Peace. This is eminately 'Biblical'. Actual
> Christians (though not true of Dominionists) interpret all of the
> biblical, scriptural text in the light of these teachings of Jesus'. 
> Jesus' pivotal teaching in the New Testament is that humanity 1) Love
> God w/ all their heart, soul, mind and strength and 2) Love our
> neighbor as ourselves. A prominent theologian has said that next to
> that teaching the entire rest of the Bible needs to be seen a merely
> 'footnotes.' So you see that for the Christian, nothing could be more
> 'Biblical' than Jesus The Christ's laser-beam-like focus on Love and
> Peace. This intensely illuminates the vast gulf between the followers
> of Jesus (ie. Christians) and the worshippers of power in recast in
> twisted 'Biblical' idolatry (what I call bibliolatry or Dominionism).
> 
> The name 'Christian' actually means 'little Christ' (ie. little
> messiah
> or little Jesus) and was first used as a term of derision towards
> disciples of Jesus who were sharing about Jesus' way of Love and
> Peace
> by defenders of the older domination structured society and religion
> who were feeling threatened by this upstart faith. The Way as the
> followers of Jesus called it before this (originally meant as
> pejorative) term 'Christian' was embraced by were said to be 'turning
> the world upside down' by their radical acts of Love and Peace. Their
> new faith in Jesus' doctrine of "love God" and "love your neighor as
> you love yourself" as embodied by their new style of 'Servant
> Leadership' so challenged the societal order (political and religious
> -
> which were married at the time in a type of what we might call
> 'theocracy') that the rulers felt the strong need to suppress the
> faith. Radical Love and Peace. 
> 
> So to summarize even though it doesn't directly qute the Bible this
> link is far more representative of and faithful to the bible, Jesus'
> teachings and Christianity than Dominionism could ever hope to be.
> 
> A Million Votes for Peace!
> 
> Drew 
> 
> JamBoi
> Jammy The Sacred Cows Slayer
> 
> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> 
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