From jamboi at yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 07:55:17 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:55:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: GAYLE McLAUGHLIN ELECTED RICHMOND MAYOR! Message-ID: <491273.59378.qm@web52212.mail.yahoo.com> Hey Alex, Thank you so much for this detailed report! Great stuff. I met her when I set up an event in Berkeley this summer for her and Michael Berg (the famous M. Berg who's son Nick supposedly had his head cut off by Zarquawi and who when the MSM reporters came around after Zarquawi's death to get his triumphal reaction were outraged that instead he said he forgave Zarquawi and had more trouble with Bush! And who was a Green candidate for congress this year). She was great! One note, and not to be a defender of the MSM, but I know that when the media was trying like the dickens to contact Gayle for interviews they were unable to because no one (including the GPCA media committee) could reach her. Hopefully we'll get more coordinated w/ her and she'll get more set up to deal with the media. Green solidarity! Drew --- alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:39:02 -0500 > From: alexcathy at aol.com > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GAYLE McLAUGHLIN ELECTED RICHMOND MAYOR! > > Dear Green Friends, > > For those of you unfamiliar with the history, economics, and > demographics of the north San Francisco Bay area, the election of > GAYLE McLAUGHLIN as the Green Party mayor of Richmond, California is > a really, really, big deal. > > I don't want to get carried away, so I'll try to be brief. > > Richmond, California is a classic working-class industrial city. > During World War II, many African-Americans migrated to Richmond to > work at building "Liberty Ships" at the large shipyard. Many of them > were women, which is why this is the site for the "Rosie the Riveter" > memorial today. > > In recent years, however, Richmond has fallen on hard times. The > shipyard has long since shut down. The largest local employer is the > Chevron Oil Company which has a large refinery in Richmond. Chevron, > now merged with Texaco, is notorious for pollution, health & safety > violations, racial discrimination, sexual harassment, and general > criminal wheeling 'n dealin' all around the world (which is why they > picked Professor Condoleeza Rice to serve on their board of directors > and why Dr. Rice, being the utterly immoral scum that she is, > accepted). > > In recent years, Richmond has had a lot of trouble with gangs, guns, > and crime. And as always when you're talking about a large > "minority" community, the Bay Area mainstream tabloid media never > gets tired of talking about that. > > Poor schools in Contra Costa, like poor schools everywhere in > California, have had a hard time, too. At one point a group of kids, > on their own, organized a march from Contra Costa to Sacramento to > lobby Governor Arnold Schwarzeneggar for more funding for poor > schools. After the kids came all that way, Ah-nold (the one hailed > by the upper-class, corporate media as a good "moderate" Republican), > refused to see them (I guess the kids' parents were not Hollywood > "liberal" Democrats). > > * * * > > GAYLE McLAUGHLIN is a Euro-American social worker and longtime > activist from an old Chicago union family. In 2004 she was elected > to the Richmond City Council on a shoestring budget campaign. At the > time it was considered a big upset, but likely just a fluke. I met > her at the Green Party Plenary in 2005 and was very much impressed. > At a campaign and candidates workshop I asked her how she she had > managed to get the endorsement of the Sierra Club and some of the > unions. She replied that she won those endorsements, first, by > working with those groups in their causes, and then by, well, by > asking for their support. > > * * * > > This November Ms. McLaughlin has scored a spectacular victory by > ousting the incumbent mayor. Richmond is now the largest city in the > United States with a Green Party mayor. > > McLaughlin defeated a sitting Democratic Party incumbent seeking > re-election. Richmond mayor Irma Anderson brazenly accepted $110,000 > from the evil Chevron Oil, Pacific Gas and Electric and other > corporate interests while Ms. McLaughlin refused corporate > contributions during her campaign. > > This is a spectacular Green victory. Who says "minority" communities > will not respond to an aggressive Green campaign? > > > THE GODDAMNED MAINSTREAM MEDIA > > Remember how the Mainstream Media (MSM) made such a big deal about > Oakland and Los Angeles electing "white" mayors? > > Remember how the MSM hyped the Harvard-educated Cory Booker as a > "Good Black" mayor for Newark, New Jersey even before he was elected? > > > Remember how the MSM badmouthed Matt Gonzalez when he came within an > eyelash of being elected mayor of San Francisco? > > So, why the hell isn't McLaughlin's spectacular victory a big > national story? > > I've been surfin' the web this morning and this is how ther are > "spinning' it: > > > San Francisco Chronicle, November 21st: > > "Assuming officials certify the results as expected, the election > makes Richmond the biggest > city in the country with a Green Party mayor -- and apparently > the first with a predominantly > minority population. > > About three-fourths of the city's 103,000 residents are > African-American and other minorities. > The Green Party's traditional base has been amonth the mostly > white, well-educated people > concerned about environmental causes..." > > > > Don't you just love the way these creeps casually refer to the > MAJORITY of the people of California as "minorities?" And in their > litte minds, "well-educated people concerned about environmental > causes" means "White." > > > Contra Costa Times, November 21st > Also Printed in the San Jose Mercury News: > > "McLaughlin, a Green Party member who refused to accept corporate > donations, > has been on the council for two years. She spent $28,000 on her > campaign. > Anderson, 75, who received major contributions from Chevron, the > Council of > Industries and the Chamber of Commerce, spent more than $110,000. > > McLaughlin, 54, benefited from a third mayoral candidate, Gary > Bell, a former > council member who, like Anderson, is black. Bell received 4,800 > votes, which > many believe would have gonemostly to Anderson had he not been in > the race. > > Anderson, a retired public nurse, has deep ties to Richmond's > black community. > She was married to the late Rev. Booker T. Anderson, who was a > former mayor > and councilman. > > ... > > Anderson was criticized for being the city's top political figure > when Richmond > suddenly discovered a $35 million budget deficit in 2004. The > crisis resulted in > the cutting of hundreds of city jobs and reductions of city > services. > > ... > > McLaughlin's win may not have been a victory for Green principles > as much as > it was voter dissatisfaction with city government after the 2004 > budget crisis. > > > > Yes, fellow Americans, we do have a serious race problem in this > country... and the goddamned mainstream media is part of the problem. > "She was married to the late Rev. Booker T..." > > Please! > > It is interesting to compare and contrast this "spin" to the kind of > stuff they said when Richard Riordan or James Hahn was elected mayor > of Los Angeles or Jerry Brown was elected mayor of Oakland or when > Cory Booker was elected mayor of Newark, New Jersey on his second > try. Then it was like: > > "Hurray! Hurray! THOSE PEOPLE have finally come to their senses > > and elected moderates and conservatives!" > > Don't hold your breath waiting for them to say: > > "Hurray! Hurray! American voters in Richmond have finally come to > their senses > and thown out a corrupt, clueless Democrat > and elected an honest, progresive Green!" > > > Dear friends, we should savor our sweet victories even if they don't. > If the MSM is unhappy then we must be doing something right. > > > Alex Walker > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. 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Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From jamboi at yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 08:42:57 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Another Green Party California candidate pulls upset over incumbent Message-ID: <20061201164257.75663.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com> Another Green Party candidate pulls upset over incumbent, claims thin win in college board race; Follows Green victory in Richmond mayor election GREEN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA NEWS RELEASE SAN FRANCISCO (November 29, 2006) - A Green Party candidate has pulled off yet another upset of an incumbent here with the announcement today from the San Francisco Elections Department that John Rizzo has now built an insurmountable, 300-vote lead and has officially registered a victory over Community College Board incumbent Johnnie Carter. The win follows the election of Green Gayle McLaughlin as mayor of Richmond over the incumbent in that city, a working class suburb of San Francisco with a population of about 104,000. Richmond becomes the biggest city in the U.S. where at Green is at the helm, and the first in California where a Green was directly elected as mayor. McLaughlin, who first won office in 2004 on the Richmond City Council, was outspent 10-1 by the incumbent. Rizzo is more than 2,800 votes ahead of Carter after counting of provisional and other ballots. Counting continues, but the elections office says the lead is insurmountable. Rizzo has 68,197 votes (16.95 percent) good for the third and final available spot. Carter has 67,897 votes (16.87 percent). Another Green, Bruce Wolfe, finished just behind Carter with 51,168 votes. "This is great news for the thousands of students in San Francisco's Community College System. John's win will mean greater accountability," said Erika McDonald, spokesperson for the San Francisco Green Party. Rizzo chairs the 40,000 member Sierra Club Bay Area Chapter and is member of the City College Bond Oversight Committee, and a City commissioner. His work with the Sierra Club includes fighting global warming by promoting clean-energy alternatives to imported fossil fuels, conserving water resources, and fighting for a better public transportation system. He has helped to pass ballot measures to fund solar energy and that require Muni to buy less-polluting city buses. Greens now hold 52 elected offices in California. Of 62 Greens on the state ballot Nov. 7, including state, federal and local races, 18 Greens, or 29 percent, won. Four captured city council spots while six Greens won seats on boards of education. Greens have the majority of seats (3/5) on the Sebastopol City Council and four of nine on the Berkeley rent stabilization board. -30- More Information California Green Party Election Results: www.cagreens.org/media/Election2006 U.S. Green Party Election Results: www.gp.org/elections John Rizzo campaign contact: Aimee at 916-812-4027 Contacts: Crescenzo Vellucci, State Press Office, 916-996-1970, civillib at cwnet.com Sara Amir (Los Angeles), 310-270-7106, saraamir at earthlink.net Susan King (San Francisco), 415-823-5524, funking at mindspring.com The Green Party of California http://www.cagreens.org P.O. Box 2828, Sacramento, CA 95812 Phone: (916) 448-3437 EMail: gpca at greens.org ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Fri Dec 1 08:44:46 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:44:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPCA now has 50 elected officials statewide! Message-ID: <20061201164446.14607.qmail@web52215.mail.yahoo.com> From: Mike Feinstein Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] GPCA elected officials total stands at 50 Ross Mirkarimi, Board of Supervisors, District 5, City/County of San Francisco Gayle McLaughlin, Mayor, Richmond (Contra Costa) Larry Bragman, City Council, Fairfax (Marin County) Melody DeMeritt, City Council, Morro Bay (San Luis Obispo) Lynda Deschambault, Town Council, Moraga (Contra Costa) Alan Drusys, Mayor Pro-Tem, Yucaipa (San Bernadino County) Harmony Groves, City Council, Arcata (Humboldt County) Craig Litwin, City Council, Sebastopol (Sonoma County) Holly Madrigal, City Council, Willits (Mendocino County) Christine Mulholland, City Council, San Luis Obispo (San Luis Obispo County) Sam Pierce, City Council , Sebastopol (Sonoma County) Paul Pitino, City Council, Arcata (Humboldt County) Larry Robinson, Mayor, Sebastopol (Sonoma County) Lauren Sinnott, City Council, Point Arena, (Mendocino County) Dona Spring, City Council, Berkeley (Alameda County) Lew Tremaine, Mayor, Fairfax (Marin County) Karl Warkomski, Mayor, Aliso Viejo (Orange County) Hilary Bradbury-Huang, Board of Trustees, Pasadena City College (Los Angeles) Vahe Peroomian, Board of Trustees Community College District, Glendale (Los Angeles) John Rizzo, Board of Trustees, Community College District, San Francisco (San Francisco, San Francisco County) Jane Kim, Board of Education, City/County of San Francisco Mark Sanchez, Board of Education,City/County of San Francisco John Selawsky, School Board, Berkeley (Alameda County) Jim Smith, President, Canyon School Board, Canyon Township (Contra Costa County) Paul Franklin, President, School Board, Live Oak School District (Santa Cruz) Bill (William) Meyers, School Board, Point Arena (Mendocino County) Herb Gura, School Board, Konocti Unified (Lake County) DeOnne Noel, School Board, Twin Ridges Elementary (Nevada County) Rod Jones, School Board, Mendocino Unified School District (Mendocino County) Jeff Sklar, Rent Control Board, Santa Monica (Los Angeles County) Howard Chong, Rent Stabilization Board, Berkeley (Alameda County) Chris Kavanagh, Rent Stabilization Board, Berkeley (Alameda County) Lisa Stephens, Rent Stabilization Board, Berkeley (Alameda County) Pam Webster, Rent Stabilization Board, Berkeley (Alameda County) Rebecca Kaplan, Director at Large, Alameda-Contra Costa Transit District (Alameda & Contra Costa Counties) Cameron Miller, Water Conservation District Board, Santa Maria Valley (Santa Barbara) Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap, Eureka Water Board, District 1 (Humboldt County) Matthew Clark, Granada Sanitary District (San Mateo County) Paul Perkovic, Montara Water & Sanitary District (San Mateo County) Jim Harvey, Montara Water & Sanitary District (San Mateo County) Chuck Anderson, Aptos/La Selva Fire Protection District (Santa Cruz County) William Bretz, Seat 8 (Dehesa), Crest/Dehesa/Harrison Canyon/Granite Hill Planning Group (San Diego County) Sara Bassler, Midcoast Community Council (San Mateo County) Mark Barney, Neighborhood Council #2 Executive Board Member, Simi Valley (Ventura County) Deacon Alexander, Vernon/Main Neighborhood Council, Los Angeles (Los Angeles County) Ginny Case, Downtown Los Angeles Neighborhood Council - Historic Core - Resident, Los Angeles (Los Angeles County) Eugene Hernandez, Sylmar Neighborhood Council, Los Angeles (Los Angeles County) Jeff Horne, Mid City West Neighborhood Council, Los Angeles (Los Angeles County) Nicole Vigeant, Community Services District, Tomales Village (Marin County) James Lamport, Southern Humboldt Hospital District Board (Humboldt County) ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From wrolley at charter.net Fri Dec 1 08:51:43 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:51:43 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Thoughts for 2007 Message-ID: <45705D9F.30107@charter.net> With the election behind us, I would like to suggest that we try something novel. We know what offices will be on the ballot in 2008. We know which incumbents will be termed out when that happens. (e.g. Don Gage, Supervisor, Dist. 1) Maybe now is the time when we should identify specific offices that we would want to target by 2008 and start looking for potential candidates. I am sure that there are qualified people that can be encouraged to start thinking about this and whom we can help develop, including helping them to gain name recognition among the public. Wes -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Fri Dec 1 20:20:14 2006 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:20:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] mangled message from Carol Brouillet Message-ID: Carol sent an oversized message with broken formatting to sosfbay-discuss. The text I was able to pull out of it follows. ---- Subject: My Campaign Experience- Looking Forward... From: Carol Brouillet Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:41:09 -0800 Many people have been asking me for a campaign report and an update on my thinking- after the election. This article contains the gist of it (although it probably leaves out even more than it says, but that is part of the "description process" when one draws a line around an experience- separating it from the larger whole). Running in Circles: 2006 9/11 Truth/Impeachment Congressional Campaign Report From Beginning to End, and Where Next? by Carol Brouillet November 28, 2006 entire article is at- http://www.communitycurrency.org/circles.html An excerpt: Recently I was invited to join a circle and I couldnt resist the invitation, because circles can be very powerful experiences. Native Americans have traditionally formed circles, passing a talking stick and speaking from the heart, to draw from the collective wisdom of the group to solve problems. Circles respect everyones ability to contribute and participate meaningfully. The most productive, meaningful gatherings that Ive participated in have used circle processes; when they grow large, sometimes they give birth to many new circles. I see the spread of circles--concentric, overlapping circles everywhere--as people make more and more connections between the personal and the political, as the unconscious becomes conscious, and as light is cast upon the darkest shadows of our collective experience. We are needed to midwife the transition from a dying dominator paradigm, where large institutions and governments hold power and legitimacy, to the peaceful paradigm where individuals and small groups with courage, integrity, truth, and heart will begin to shoulder greater responsibility for pointing a way through the rapids of change, to avoid the rocks, the whirlpools of economic collapse, endless war, and the unleashing of the latest wave of bio-terrorism attacks. Did the anti-war movement win the recent election? Is the Baker/Iraq study group just a mask for the fascists to hide behind, as they lick their wounds and retreat? The proposal to create a North American Union--a more draconian expansion of NAFTA that asserts control over Mexicos energy resources--allows for the super-exploitation of labor and the environment and guarantees profits to the major players with the costs to be borne by people and planet. A few Congressmen have put forward a resolution condemning and drawing attention to the plan. The idea will be vigorously opposed at the grassroots level. After a suspicious election, the legitimacy of the Mexican government remains questionable. Repression, rebellion, and murder in Oaxaca have sparked solidarity protests in many American cities and other countries as well. The Global Justice movement, set back by the events of September 11th, is reviving and again challenging the most visible dominant institutions that exercise the most obvious power over most countries. --Carol ---- There was a very nice attached image, but its file was five times larger than the identical-looking original at http://www.communitycurrency.org/circles.jpg Cameron From wrolley at charter.net Sun Dec 3 09:08:08 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 09:08:08 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Michael Stanley-Jones Message-ID: <45730478.8040502@charter.net> Does anyone have a current email address for Michael Stanley-Jones? I need to contact him re: Green Issues Working Group web site and the email address there is too old. -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From wrolley at charter.net Sun Dec 3 10:49:48 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:49:48 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NIST says Paperless Electronic Voting Cannot Be Made Secure Message-ID: <45731C4C.3030705@charter.net> http://dwb.sacbee.com/24hour/politics/story/3435642p-12603065c.html *Federal agency faults voting machines The Associated Press *Last Updated 12:31 pm PST Friday, December 1, 2006 WASHINGTON (AP) - Paperless electronic voting machines in widespread use across the country may be vulnerable to errors or sabotage and cannot be made secure, a draft report by a federal agency said. The report by researchers at the influential National Institute of Standards and Technology said the paperless voting machines - essentially notebook computers programmed to display ballot images and record voter choices - "in practical terms cannot be made secure." "Many people, especially in the computer engineering and security community, assert that the (voting machines) are vulnerable to undetectable errors as well as malicious software attacks," the report said. A key weakness is that there is no audit mechanism or paper trail to verify election results other than what the machine itself reports, the report said. "Potentially, a single programmer could 'rig' a major election," the report said. After examining the issue, including volunteering as election workers at polling sites, NIST researchers said in their report that they concluded that they not know how to write "testable requirements" to make the machines secure and it is their recommendation that the machines "in practical terms cannot be made secure." Many states bought the paperless electronic voting machines with money provided by Congress after the 2000 presidential election, whose disputed results went all the way to the Supreme Court. Gail Porter, NIST's public affairs director, emphasized that the draft report is a "discussion document" whose conclusions and recommendations could change. The report will be discussed at a meeting Monday by NIST's Technical Guidelines Development Committee at the agency's headquarters in Gaithersburg, Md. The committee is tasked under a law enacted by Congress in 2002 to advise the Election Assistance Commission on developing guidelines for voting systems. Election experts applauded the report's findings. "The new NIST report is confirmation that the mandatory verified voter trails the DNC and its Voting Rights Institute have championed are vital to restoring the confidence of the American people in their own democracy," Donna Brazile, chair of the Democratic National Committee's Voting Rights Institute, said in a statement Friday. -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From jamboi at yahoo.com Sun Dec 3 12:01:12 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 12:01:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] This Friday: Greening Our Valley Potluck Message-ID: <20061203200113.84493.qmail@web52209.mail.yahoo.com> WHERE: The Clubhouse in the Willow Park Condo at the intersection of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd. (Fred & Louis Duperrault's) WHEN: Fri Dec 8th, 7pm WHAT: Greening Our Valley Potluck. The Green Party of Santa Clara County is hosting a holiday networking party. TOPIC: Building Coalition to bring progress to Silicon Valley in the new year. High on our list of priorities is IMPEACHMENT of Cheney, Bush and their henchmen. We are working to form action groups to ensure we acheive impeachment ASAP. We'll also trade ideas on celebrating holistic holidays. BRING: Some food to share (but come even if you can't), & your ideas and goodwill for working in coalition. ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Dec 4 10:02:26 2006 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 13:02:26 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Meeting this Thursday (Dec 7th)? Message-ID: Is there a GPSCC general meeting this Thursday? Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamboi at yahoo.com Mon Dec 4 10:30:36 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:30:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Meeting this Thursday (Dec 7th)? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061204183036.33644.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com> First Thursday of the month. I believe so. Remember I'd put my name in for county council so there's supposed to be a vote or word back from the CC or something this Thursday. Green solidarity! Drew --- WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: > Is there a GPSCC general meeting this Thursday? Warner > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 4 15:19:46 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:19:46 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Thursday agenda Message-ID: <4574AD12.8000001@sbcglobal.net> Yes, there is a meeting Thursday and this is a request for agenda items. I will gather up the suggested agenda items and make copies to be distributed at the meeting. We will have at least a treasurer's report, a tabling report - they do have some overlap - and the approval of adding Drew to the County Council. Perhaps something about buttons - which is also linked to tabling and the treasurer, or better, treasury. So please post your other agenda items. Thanks, Jim Doyle From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Tue Dec 5 00:12:34 2006 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 00:12:34 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] holiday peace fair snapshots Message-ID: I took some pictures Saturday. http://gandhi.greens.org/cls/webpix/ Andrea and Warner learning the button press. Raging Grannies. Peace Chorale. Crazy peaceniks. Mexican dancers. From jamboi at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 00:48:38 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 00:48:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Nancy Pelosi and Impeachment Message-ID: <20061205084838.55160.qmail@web52201.mail.yahoo.com> By working with top GPCA vote getter Krissy Keefer (who ran v Pelosi), and our own Carol Brouillet we are in an EXCELLENT POSITION to have major impact on BRINGING IMPEACHMENT! Check this out: Green solidarity! Drew Nancy Pelosi and Impeachment By John Nichols The Nation BLOG | Posted December 3, 2006 http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?bid=15&pid=145071 This coming Tuesday, in San Francisco, the official canvass of the results of the November 7 election must be completed and those results will be certified. On that day, this will be formal confirmation of the intentions of the voters of San Francisco. Two of those intentions will be of particular, if conflicting, significance. First, the voters will have reelected their representative to the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, who in January will become the Speaker of the House. Second, the voters will have joined the citizens of several dozen other communities across the country in formally requesting that their congressional representatives take the necessary steps to impeach President Bush and Vice President Cheney. "We call upon the United States House of Representatives to initiate an investigation into High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney and to submit Articles of Impeachment to the United States Senate," declares Proposition J, a measure that was endorsed by almost 6O percent of the city's electorate. With the certification of the results, it becomes the policy of San Francisco that its congressional representatives should "immediately invoke every available legal mechanism to effect the impeachment and removal from office of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney for High Crimes and Misdemeanors under Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States of America." Pelosi is not taking the hint. In fact, she contintues to say, when asked, that "impeachment is off the table." It is of course, Pelosi's right to refuse to implement the official policy of the city that elects her. No law, nor pattern of practice, requires members of Congress to actually represent the views of their constituents. But in coming days, as activists across the country raise the issue of impeachment at rallies and forums nationwide, Pelosi may want to take a few minutes to review the official position of the community that has sent her to Congress. That position states: << It is the Policy of the people of the City and County of San Francisco to call for the impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney for violating the public trust and for knowingly harming the United States of America, the State of California, and the City and County of San Francisco. On November 2, 2004, the people of San Francisco passed Proposition N, asking the Federal government to "take immediate steps to end the U.S. occupation of Iraq and bring our troops safely home now," citing President Bush's lies to the American people in making the case for war in Iraq. President George W. Bush abused his power by authorizing the National Security Agency and various other agencies within the intelligence community to conduct electronic surveillance outside of the statutes Congress prescribed as the exclusive means for such surveillance and concealed the existence of this unlawful program from Congress, the press, and the public. President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney abused their power by arbitrarily detaining citizens and non-citizens indefinitely inside and outside of the United States, without due process, without charges and with limited - if any - access to counsel or courts. They have failed to faithfully execute the laws of the United States by allowing torture and failing to investigate and prosecute high-level officials responsible for torture. President George W. Bush disregarded his Presidential duty when he and his appointed head of Federal Emergency Management Agency failed to quickly and adequately respond to a major disaster on United States soil, Hurricane Katrina, which killed at least 1,383 people in the Gulf Coast Region and left over 78,000 people homeless, and is guilty of gross incompetence or reckless indifference to his obligation to execute the laws faithfully. President George W. Bush arrogated excessive power to the executive branch in violation of the basic constitutional principle of the separation of powers. On February 28, 2006, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors passed a resolution calling for a "full investigation, impeachment or resignation of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney." We call upon the United States House of Representatives to initiate an investigation into High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney and to submit Articles of Impeachment to the United States Senate. We call on the United States Senate, after trying any Impeachment, to remove President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney from office. We call upon the Legislature of the State of California to transmit charges supporting impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney to the United States House of Representatives. We generally call on our elected federal and state representatives to immediately invoke every available legal mechanism to effect the impeachment and removal from office of President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney for High Crimes and Misdemeanors under Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States of America. >> ? 2006 The Nation ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From jamboi at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 11:00:21 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:00:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] POSSIBLE RELEASE: Greens, Prop J, Nancy Pelosi and Impeachment In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20061205104240.0194b318@mail.cwnet.com> Message-ID: <450749.17021.qm@web52213.mail.yahoo.com> Sounds great! I can work on getting something from Carol. It might take a day or two. Green solidarity! Drew --- civillib at cwnet.com wrote: > Why don't we do a statewide release about Prop J. (there's enough > here) > with quotes from Krissy and Carol and putting that up against > Pelosi's > apparent stand NOT to do anything?? > > I canwork this up, but if Drew or someone in SF can get me 4-8 lines > from > Krissy and Carol so I caninsert them in the release it would help > alot. > > OK? > > Cres > > At 12:49 AM 12/5/2006 -0800, JamBoi wrote: > >By working with top GPCA vote getter Krissy Keefer (who ran v > Pelosi), > >and our own Carol Brouillet we are in an EXCELLENT POSITION to have > >major impact on BRINGING IMPEACHMENT! Check this out: > > > >Green solidarity! > > > >Drew > > > >Nancy Pelosi and Impeachment > > > >By John Nichols > >The Nation > >BLOG | Posted December 3, 2006 > >http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?bid=15&pid=145071 > > > > This coming Tuesday, in San Francisco, the > >official canvass of the results of the November 7 > >election must be completed and those results will > >be certified. > > > >On that day, this will be formal confirmation of > >the intentions of the voters of San Francisco. > > > >Two of those intentions will be of particular, if > >conflicting, significance. > > > >First, the voters will have reelected their > >representative to the House of Representatives, > >Nancy Pelosi, who in January will become the > >Speaker of the House. > > > >Second, the voters will have joined the citizens > >of several dozen other communities across the > >country in formally requesting that their > >congressional representatives take the necessary > >steps to impeach President Bush and Vice > >President Cheney. > > > >"We call upon the United States House of > >Representatives to initiate an investigation into > >High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > >Richard B. Cheney and to submit Articles of > >Impeachment to the United States Senate," > >declares Proposition J, a measure that was > >endorsed by almost 6O percent of the city's > >electorate. > > > >With the certification of the results, it becomes > >the policy of San Francisco that its > >congressional representatives should "immediately > >invoke every available legal mechanism to effect > >the impeachment and removal from office of > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > >Richard B. Cheney for High Crimes and > >Misdemeanors under Article II, Section 4 of the > >Constitution of the United States of America." > > > >Pelosi is not taking the hint. In fact, she > >contintues to say, when asked, that "impeachment > >is off the table." > > > >It is of course, Pelosi's right to refuse to > >implement the official policy of the city that > >elects her. No law, nor pattern of practice, > >requires members of Congress to actually > >represent the views of their constituents. > > > >But in coming days, as activists across the > >country raise the issue of impeachment at rallies > >and forums nationwide, Pelosi may want to take a > >few minutes to review the official position of > >the community that has sent her to Congress. > > > >That position states: > > > ><< It is the Policy of the people of the City and > >County of San Francisco to call for the > >impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice > >President Richard B. Cheney for violating the > >public trust and for knowingly harming the United States of America, > >the State of California, and > >the City and County of San Francisco. > >On November 2, 2004, the people of San Francisco > >passed Proposition N, asking the Federal > >government to "take immediate steps to end the > >U.S. occupation of Iraq and bring our troops > >safely home now," citing President Bush's lies to > >the American people in making the case for war in > >Iraq. > > > >President George W. Bush abused his power by > >authorizing the National Security Agency and > >various other agencies within the intelligence > >community to conduct electronic surveillance > >outside of the statutes Congress prescribed as > >the exclusive means for such surveillance and > >concealed the existence of this unlawful program > >from Congress, the press, and the public. > > > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > >Richard B. Cheney abused their power by > >arbitrarily detaining citizens and non-citizens > >indefinitely inside and outside of the United States, without due > >process, without charges and > >with limited - if any - access to counsel or > >courts. They have failed to faithfully execute > >the laws of the United States by allowing torture > >and failing to investigate and prosecute > >high-level officials responsible for torture. > > > >President George W. Bush disregarded his > >Presidential duty when he and his appointed head > >of Federal Emergency Management Agency failed to > >quickly and adequately respond to a major > >disaster on United States soil, Hurricane > >Katrina, which killed at least 1,383 people in > >the Gulf Coast Region and left over 78,000 people > >homeless, and is guilty of gross incompetence or > >reckless indifference to his obligation to > >execute the laws faithfully. > > > >President George W. Bush arrogated excessive > >power to the executive branch in violation of the > >basic constitutional principle of the separation > >of powers. > > > >On February 28, 2006, the San Francisco Board of > >Supervisors passed a resolution calling for a > >"full investigation, impeachment or resignation > >of President George W. Bush and Vice President > >Richard B. Cheney." > > > >We call upon the United States House of > >Representatives to initiate an investigation into > >High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > >Richard B. Cheney and to submit Articles of > >Impeachment to the United States Senate. > > > >We call on the United States Senate, after trying > >any Impeachment, to remove President George W. > >Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney from > >office. > > > >We call upon the Legislature of the State of > >California to transmit charges supporting > >impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice > >President Richard B. Cheney to the United States > >House of Representatives. > > > >We generally call on our elected federal and > >state representatives to immediately invoke every > >available legal mechanism to effect the > >impeachment and removal from office of President > >George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. > >Cheney for High Crimes and Misdemeanors under > >Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution of the > >United States of America. >> > > > > > >? 2006 The Nation > > > >___________________ > > > >JamBoi > >Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > > >"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > >http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > >http://new.mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ > >GPCA-MediaWG mailing list > >GPCA-MediaWG at marla.cagreens.org > >http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg > > > > > > > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 11:08:44 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:08:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] POSSIBLE RELEASE: Greens, Prop J, Nancy Pelosi and Impeachment In-Reply-To: <450749.17021.qm@web52213.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <265910.11176.qm@web52211.mail.yahoo.com> Note that this Sunday Dec. 10 the national Day Of Support For Impeachment and our release could support this. AfterDowningStreet.org http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/december10 December 10, 2006: Human Rights and Impeachment Day Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2006-11-02 20:04. Activism | Impeachment December 10 is Human Rights Day, and this year we're making it Human Rights and Impeachment Day. Slogan: "Putting Impeachment on the Table." We encourage you to organize a town hall forum or rally on this day for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney. You can create a public listing of your event here. You will be able to communicate with the people who sign up for your event, and to edit the listing for your event, changing or filling in details later. You can view existing events and sign up to attend one here. Here is a list of available speakers with their contact info. Be sure also to invite your Congress Member or newly elected future Congress Member to speak. Here are resources that will make your event easy and effective. If you want to include war resisters in your event, you may want to join forces with this effort by Courage to Resist and also list your event on their website. Big December 9 Event in New York City Big December 10 Event in Santa Barbara, Calif. Lots of December 10 Plans in Los Angeles, Calif. Big December 10 Event in San Francisco, Calif. Big December 10 Event in Washington DC There are also events planned outside the United States. The technology of the events system we're using won't include them, but you can submit them to us to be posted here. --- JamBoi wrote: > Sounds great! I can work on getting something from Carol. It might > take a day or two. > > Green solidarity! > > Drew > > > --- civillib at cwnet.com wrote: > > > Why don't we do a statewide release about Prop J. (there's enough > > here) > > with quotes from Krissy and Carol and putting that up against > > Pelosi's > > apparent stand NOT to do anything?? > > > > I canwork this up, but if Drew or someone in SF can get me 4-8 > lines > > from > > Krissy and Carol so I caninsert them in the release it would help > > alot. > > > > OK? > > > > Cres > > > > At 12:49 AM 12/5/2006 -0800, JamBoi wrote: > > >By working with top GPCA vote getter Krissy Keefer (who ran v > > Pelosi), > > >and our own Carol Brouillet we are in an EXCELLENT POSITION to > have > > >major impact on BRINGING IMPEACHMENT! Check this out: > > > > > >Green solidarity! > > > > > >Drew > > > > > >Nancy Pelosi and Impeachment > > > > > >By John Nichols > > >The Nation > > >BLOG | Posted December 3, 2006 > > >http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?bid=15&pid=145071 > > > > > > This coming Tuesday, in San Francisco, the > > >official canvass of the results of the November 7 > > >election must be completed and those results will > > >be certified. > > > > > >On that day, this will be formal confirmation of > > >the intentions of the voters of San Francisco. > > > > > >Two of those intentions will be of particular, if > > >conflicting, significance. > > > > > >First, the voters will have reelected their > > >representative to the House of Representatives, > > >Nancy Pelosi, who in January will become the > > >Speaker of the House. > > > > > >Second, the voters will have joined the citizens > > >of several dozen other communities across the > > >country in formally requesting that their > > >congressional representatives take the necessary > > >steps to impeach President Bush and Vice > > >President Cheney. > > > > > >"We call upon the United States House of > > >Representatives to initiate an investigation into > > >High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by > > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > > >Richard B. Cheney and to submit Articles of > > >Impeachment to the United States Senate," > > >declares Proposition J, a measure that was > > >endorsed by almost 6O percent of the city's > > >electorate. > > > > > >With the certification of the results, it becomes > > >the policy of San Francisco that its > > >congressional representatives should "immediately > > >invoke every available legal mechanism to effect > > >the impeachment and removal from office of > > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > > >Richard B. Cheney for High Crimes and > > >Misdemeanors under Article II, Section 4 of the > > >Constitution of the United States of America." > > > > > >Pelosi is not taking the hint. In fact, she > > >contintues to say, when asked, that "impeachment > > >is off the table." > > > > > >It is of course, Pelosi's right to refuse to > > >implement the official policy of the city that > > >elects her. No law, nor pattern of practice, > > >requires members of Congress to actually > > >represent the views of their constituents. > > > > > >But in coming days, as activists across the > > >country raise the issue of impeachment at rallies > > >and forums nationwide, Pelosi may want to take a > > >few minutes to review the official position of > > >the community that has sent her to Congress. > > > > > >That position states: > > > > > ><< It is the Policy of the people of the City and > > >County of San Francisco to call for the > > >impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice > > >President Richard B. Cheney for violating the > > >public trust and for knowingly harming the United States of > America, > > >the State of California, and > > >the City and County of San Francisco. > > >On November 2, 2004, the people of San Francisco > > >passed Proposition N, asking the Federal > > >government to "take immediate steps to end the > > >U.S. occupation of Iraq and bring our troops > > >safely home now," citing President Bush's lies to > > >the American people in making the case for war in > > >Iraq. > > > > > >President George W. Bush abused his power by > > >authorizing the National Security Agency and > > >various other agencies within the intelligence > > >community to conduct electronic surveillance > > >outside of the statutes Congress prescribed as > > >the exclusive means for such surveillance and > > >concealed the existence of this unlawful program > > >from Congress, the press, and the public. > > > > > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > > >Richard B. Cheney abused their power by > > >arbitrarily detaining citizens and non-citizens > > >indefinitely inside and outside of the United States, without due > > >process, without charges and > > >with limited - if any - access to counsel or > > >courts. They have failed to faithfully execute > > >the laws of the United States by allowing torture > > >and failing to investigate and prosecute > > >high-level officials responsible for torture. > > > > > >President George W. Bush disregarded his > > >Presidential duty when he and his appointed head > > >of Federal Emergency Management Agency failed to > > >quickly and adequately respond to a major > > >disaster on United States soil, Hurricane > > >Katrina, which killed at least 1,383 people in > > >the Gulf Coast Region and left over 78,000 people > > >homeless, and is guilty of gross incompetence or > > >reckless indifference to his obligation to > > >execute the laws faithfully. > > > > > >President George W. Bush arrogated excessive > > >power to the executive branch in violation of the > > >basic constitutional principle of the separation > > >of powers. > > > > > >On February 28, 2006, the San Francisco Board of > > >Supervisors passed a resolution calling for a > > >"full investigation, impeachment or resignation > > >of President George W. Bush and Vice President > > >Richard B. Cheney." > > > > > >We call upon the United States House of > > >Representatives to initiate an investigation into > > >High Crimes and Misdemeanors committed by > > >President George W. Bush and Vice President > > >Richard B. Cheney and to submit Articles of > > >Impeachment to the United States Senate. > > > > > >We call on the United States Senate, after trying > > >any Impeachment, to remove President George W. > > >Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney from > > >office. > > > > > >We call upon the Legislature of the State of > > >California to transmit charges supporting > > >impeachment of President George W. Bush and Vice > > >President Richard B. Cheney to the United States > > >House of Representatives. > > > > > >We generally call on our elected federal and > > >state representatives to immediately invoke every > > >available legal mechanism to effect the > > >impeachment and removal from office of President > > >George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. > > >Cheney for High Crimes and Misdemeanors under > > >Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution of the > > >United States of America. >> > > > > > > > > >? 2006 The Nation > > > > > >___________________ > > > > > >JamBoi > > >Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > > > > >"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > > >http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > > >http://new.mail.yahoo.com > > >_______________________________________________ > > >GPCA-MediaWG mailing list > > >GPCA-MediaWG at marla.cagreens.org > > >http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________ > > JamBoi > Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. From jamboi at yahoo.com Tue Dec 5 16:38:49 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:38:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment Coalition forming, new e-list created. Message-ID: <406371.52299.qm@web52213.mail.yahoo.com> A coalition of Greens and other folks interested in impeaching Cheney and BushCo is forming in Santa Clara County. Green Party Congressional candidates Carol Brouillet and Krissy Keefer (ran v Pelosi and got more votes than any other Green candidate in CA!) are leading the charge. SF passed Measure J in favor of impeachment! South Bay Mobilization's Outreach Director, Merriam Kathaleen is interested in joining with us Greens to make it happen here in SCC, and AfterDowningStreet is organizing all over the country. This Sunday is National Impeachment Day and there will be a related rally in San Jose and a really big one in SF. This Wednesday night Fred is working on getting a meeting together at his place to get us rolling. We can't rely on the Dems to move on this without pressure from The People, so we Greens are here to give The People a voice and restore our constitutional government. I created a list at riseup.net called valleychange at lists.riseup.net. riseup.net does their level best to keep the NSA and other snoops out, so I think that is a good place to do our business. Everyone who's interested in working in coalition on impeachment of Cheney and BushCo please reply to me and I'll add you to the list. Green solidarity! Drew ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From fredd at freeshell.org Tue Dec 5 23:10:09 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:10:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment Coalition forming, new e-list created. Message-ID: <45766CD1.4020606@freeshell.org> The Wednesday, Dec.6 "Get Off Our Butts and Do Something Impeachment Groundswell" will meet at BOOKS INK on Castro and Dana at 8:30 PM. Grass roots America must not let Cheney get away with their dreadful crims. A resounding attempt for justice has to be made, or we'll be compromising with complicity. Fred A coalition of Greens and other folks interested in impeaching Cheney and BushCo is forming in Santa Clara County. Green Party Congressional candidates Carol Brouillet and Krissy Keefer (ran v Pelosi and got more votes than any other Green candidate in CA!) are leading the charge. SF passed Measure J in favor of impeachment! South Bay Mobilization's Outreach Director, Merriam Kathaleen is interested in joining with us Greens to make it happen here in SCC, and AfterDowningStreet is organizing all over the country. This Sunday is National Impeachment Day and there will be a related rally in San Jose and a really big one in SF. This Wednesday night Fred is working on getting a meeting together at his place to get us rolling. We can't rely on the Dems to move on this without pressure from The People, so we Greens are here to give The People a voice and restore our constitutional government. I created a list at riseup.net called valleychange at lists.riseup.net. riseup.net does their level best to keep the NSA and other snoops out, so I think that is a good place to do our business. Everyone who's interested in working in coalition on impeachment of Cheney and BushCo please reply to me and I'll add you to the list. Green solidarity! Drew ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From fredd at freeshell.org Tue Dec 5 23:13:35 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:13:35 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment Coalition forming, new e-list created. In-Reply-To: <45766CD1.4020606@freeshell.org> References: <45766CD1.4020606@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <45766D9F.6050702@freeshell.org> Fred Duperrault wrote: > The Wednesday, Dec.6 "Get Off Our Butts and Do Something Impeachment > Groundswell" will meet at BOOKS INK on Castro and Dana at 8:30 PM. > Grass roots America must not let Cheney get away with their dreadful > crims. A resounding attempt for justice has to be made, or we'll be > compromising with complicity. > > Fred > > > A coalition of Greens and other folks interested in impeaching Cheney > and BushCo is forming in Santa Clara County. Green Party Congressional > candidates Carol Brouillet and Krissy Keefer (ran v Pelosi and got more > votes than any other Green candidate in CA!) are leading the charge. > SF passed Measure J in favor of impeachment! South Bay Mobilization's > Outreach Director, Merriam Kathaleen is interested in joining with us > Greens to make it happen here in SCC, and AfterDowningStreet is > organizing all over the country. This Sunday is National Impeachment > Day and there will be a related rally in San Jose and a really big one > in SF. This Wednesday night Fred is working on getting a meeting > together at his place to get us rolling. We can't rely on the Dems to > move on this without pressure from The People, so we Greens are here to > give The People a voice and restore our constitutional government. > > I created a list at riseup.net called valleychange at lists.riseup.net. > riseup.net does their level best to keep the NSA and other snoops out, > so I think that is a good place to do our business. > > Everyone who's interested in working in coalition on impeachment of > Cheney and BushCo please reply to me and I'll add you to the list. > > Green solidarity! > > Drew > > ___________________ > > JamBoi > Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > From fredd at freeshell.org Wed Dec 6 13:23:00 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:23:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Los Altos Peace Vigil Message-ID: <457734B4.9030808@freeshell.org> Friends, On Saturday (Dec. 9) Afternoon there will be a public Peace-Memorial Vigil that will honor the American military personnel and others, including the Iraqis of course, who have lost their lives because of the Iraq War. The program that will include several designated speakers and others who may speak spontaneously, will begin at 3:00 O'Clock. You are invited to take part in this memorial. It will be appropriate to bring candles and/or flowers. (It will not be inappropriate to bring nothing.) The vigil is being organized by Los Altos Voices for Peace (LAVP), with the sponsorship of Mtn. View VP and Sunnyvale VP. The names of Californians who have perished in Iraq will be read and there will be a display of dog tags to commemorate the ultimate sacrifices made. It is the intention of the peace groups to keep this particular event free of overt political and protest actions. In the spirit of peace, Fred Duperrault, a member of VFP and MVVP From wrolley at charter.net Wed Dec 6 19:39:25 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:39:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment and Pelosi Message-ID: <45778CED.30307@charter.net> I have been thinking that, were I in Pelosi's shoes, I would not want to take a strong stand on impeachment either. To begin with, that would be immediately put through the spin machine as her attempt to elect herself president. Were Bush and Cheney both to be impeached and removed from office, she would be it. I can just hear Rush and the Savage Nation already. It is to happen, far better that she is forced to do it. -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From wrolley at charter.net Thu Dec 7 09:40:56 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 09:40:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Meeting tonight Message-ID: <45785228.2030100@charter.net> I was just looking for something else in the SJ Mercury News editorials today when I came accross an item of local interest. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/16167165.htm The headline, "Decision on use of greenbelt will test power of lobbyists" points to the key fact of local politics. The development lobby seems to have their way with almost all local planning, no matter what staff might say. This case is in the Almaden Valley area of San Jose, but it could be in any of our communities. Is this a GP-SCC issue? Do we want to establish some involvement in local politics? on not? Not necessarily an agenda item, but something to think about. -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 7 09:44:49 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:44:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Meeting tonight In-Reply-To: <45785228.2030100@charter.net> Message-ID: <20061207174449.56504.qmail@web52202.mail.yahoo.com> Brother Wes, does this mean we'll actually get to meet you tonight? Many of us have heard rumors of your existance but scientific observational proof is still scanty and the debates rage on. ;-) And if you can't make it tonight will you join us tommorrow night for our networking party? Please? Green solidarity! Drew --- Wes Rolley wrote: > I was just looking for something else in the SJ Mercury News > editorials > today when I came accross an item of local interest. > > http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/16167165.htm > > The headline, "Decision on use of greenbelt will test power of > lobbyists" points to the key fact of local politics. The development > > lobby seems to have their way with almost all local planning, no > matter > what staff might say. This case is in the Almaden Valley area of San > > Jose, but it could be in any of our communities. > > Is this a GP-SCC issue? Do we want to establish some involvement in > local politics? on not? > > Not necessarily an agenda item, but something to think about. > > -- > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court > Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > (408)778-3024 > > "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in > and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited From jgshurt69 at aol.com Thu Dec 7 12:48:58 2006 From: jgshurt69 at aol.com (jgshurt69 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:48:58 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Invitation / Anti-war organizing meeting this Saturday! (Dec 9th - 5pm) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C8E85840BDFEC5-F88-4BCC@WEBMAIL-DC04.sysops.aol.com> "The Way to do is to Be." Laozi -----Original Message----- From: ragina at mac.com To: ragina at mac.com Sent: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Invitation / Anti-war organizing meeting this Saturday! (Dec 9th - 5pm) Hi everyone, I hope this finds you well! This is Ragina Johnson writing you. We worked together during the College Not Combat (Prop I) campaign over a year ago. I was the campaign manager. On January the 27th, there will be a anti-war march in Washington DC and various activists have put out a call to see if there can be momentum for building a march/rally in SF. We are casting the net widely to find individuals and organizations interesting in building something that day. The general call is to Bring the Troops Home Now (see below) and within the room on Saturday we will be discussing additional demands for the march/rally. Here's the meeting info (see the letter below for further details): Saturday, December 9, 5pm Haymarket Reading Room 110 Capp St (near the 16th and Mission BART station) San Francisco I hope you can make the meeting! It would be great to see you on Saturday and work with you again. Now is the time to rebuild the anti-war movement in the Bay Area. In solidarity, Ragina = = = = = = Rumsfeld is Gone: Time to Bring All the Troops Home from Iraq Now! We, the undersigned, are asking you to attend an urgent organizing meeting to discuss the potential of planning an anti-war demonstration on January 27 in San Francisco. On that day, hundreds of thousands of people will march outside Congress and the White House in Washington, D.C. to demand an end to the war in Iraq. The Bay Area's voice must be heard in solidarity. Some of us voted for the Democrats, some voted for the Greens or Peace and Freedom parties, some didn't vote at all, but we all agree that we cannot put our faith in the politicians to bring our troops home now. We owe it to the Iraqi people and to the American troops in Iraq to rebuild the anti-war movement, and to do it now. One of the biggest obstacles facing the anti-war movement was the sense that Bush was invincible and that protesting didn't matter. In San Francisco, hundreds of thousands of people marched on February 16, 2003 to try to prevent the war. Most of them are more opposed to the occupation now than they were back then, but most of their opposition has been passive. It's time to appeal to them to come back to the streets. We have to take advantage of the new expectations and the new hope that millions are drawing from watching Rumsfeld pack his bags and see Bush get a "thumping," as he put it. We do not have to agree on everything. This organizing meeting will be open to everyone who agrees that: Rumsfeld is Gone: Time to Bring the Troops Home from Iraq Now! Other demands, such as End the Occupation in Afghanistan, Free Palestine/End Aid to Israel, No Sanctions against Iran, Defend Arab and Muslims from Racist Attacks, US Out of the Middle East and others can be discussed and decided upon by the group as a whole at the meeting. Please spread the word far and wide and attend this important meeting. Bring your friends and family. You don't have to have experience to participate. You don't have to live in San Francisco. You don't have to know everything about the Middle East! You just have to want to end the war and do something about it. The meeting will be: Saturday, December 9, 5pm Haymarket Reading Room 110 Capp St (near the 16th and Mission BART station) San Francisco Signed, Alexander Van Dempsey, treasurer, Students Against War*, SFSU Carlos Villareal, Executive Director, San Francisco National Lawyers Guild* Chris Daly, City Supervisor, San Francisco Debra Reiger, state chair, Peace and Freedom Party Husam Zakharia, Students for Justice in Palestine*, UC Berkeley chapter Jennifer Mogannam, General Union of Palestine Students*, SFSU chapter Krissy Keefer, San Francisco Dance Brigade* Kristin Anderson, Campus Anti-War Network*, National Coordinating Committee member Marsha Feinland, Peace and Freedom Party Nancy Mancias, Code Pink* and Global Exchange* Pamela Stephens, Berkeley Stop the War Coalition*, UC Berkeley Ramsey El-Quare, General Union of Palestine Students*, SFSU chapter Renee Saucedo, San Francisco Day Laborers' Program*, Director Snehal Shingavi, International Socialist Organization* Veena Dubal, Alliance of South Asians Taking Action* *All organizations are for ID purposes only To add your name or organization to this invitation letter or let us know you're coming, please email snehal100 at hotmail.com or call 510-484-5242.= ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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The vigil is being organized by Los Altos Voices for Peace (LAVP), with the sponsorship of Mtn. View VP and Sunnyvale VP. The names of Californians who have perished in Iraq will be read and there will be a display of dog tags to commemorate the ultimate sacrifices made. It is the intention of the peace groups to keep this particular event free of overt political and protest actions. In the spirit of peace, Fred Duperrault, a member of VFP and MVVP From larrycafiero_liaison at earthlink.net Thu Dec 7 13:20:20 2006 From: larrycafiero_liaison at earthlink.net (Larry Cafiero Liaison) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:20:20 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment and Pelosi In-Reply-To: <45778CED.30307@charter.net> References: <45778CED.30307@charter.net> Message-ID: <45788594.6090603@earthlink.net> Hey, Wes -- Pelosi "electing herself president" by Constitutional succession would be highly improbable (and becoming vice president is impossible, Constitutionally speaking), even though the right-wing media apparatus could (and more than likely would) paint any such move by Pelosi ad nauseum as such. As you know, Wes, for Pelosi to actually become president, both Bush and Cheney would have to either perish simultaneously or, in an impeachment scenario that has not been tested (Constitutionally speaking), Both Bush and Cheney would have to be impeached and convicted simultaneously. She couldn't become "vice president" in the event of Cheney's impeachment/conviction, but she does become first in the line of presidential succession until a vice president is chosen and approved by both houses of Congress. (You and I are old enough to remember that we went through the vice presidential replacement drill twice in the '70s, with Gerald Ford taking over for Spiro Agnew and Nelson Rockefeller taking over for Ford when Nixon resigned. I hate to confess, but I think back nostalgically on those days . . .) She knows the rules, and I'm not willing to give her a free pass on this issue. It would be worse if you are right about Pelosi wanting to shy away from the spin cycle of the media (in fact, it would be a good way of bringing up the issue of presidential succession and informing the public about it), and probably something to consider promoting since it looks like the Democrats are about to punt this one away and stick to their "politics as usual" game plan. Larry Cafiero Wes Rolley wrote: > I have been thinking that, were I in Pelosi's shoes, I would not want to > take a strong stand on impeachment either. To begin with, that would be > immediately put through the spin machine as her attempt to elect herself > president. Were Bush and Cheney both to be impeached and removed from > office, she would be it. > > I can just hear Rush and the Savage Nation already. > > It is to happen, far better that she is forced to do it. > From fredd at freeshell.org Thu Dec 7 13:27:47 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:27:47 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [VFP_101] Los Altos Peace Vigil Message-ID: <45788753.8070002@freeshell.org> I,m sorry I left out the location of this event. Here it is: Downtown Los Altos on the Clock Tower Plaza at State and Main Streets, 3:00 PM, on Sat. Dec. 9. fd Friends, On Saturday (Dec. 9) Afternoon there will be a public Peace-Memorial Vigil that will honor the American military personnel and others, including the Iraqis of course, who have lost their lives because of the Iraq War. The program that will include several designated speakers and others who may speak spontaneously, will begin at 3:00 O'Clock. You are invited to take part in this memorial. It will be appropriate to bring candles and/or flowers. (It will not be inappropriate to bring nothing.) The vigil is being organized by Los Altos Voices for Peace (LAVP), with the sponsorship of Mtn. View VP and Sunnyvale VP. The names of Californians who have perished in Iraq will be read and there will be a display of dog tags to commemorate the ultimate sacrifices made. It is the intention of the peace groups to keep this particular event free of overt political and protest actions. In the spirit of peace, Fred Duperrault, a member of VFP and MVVP From fredd at freeshell.org Thu Dec 7 13:41:45 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:41:45 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [VFP_101] Los Altos Peace Vigil Message-ID: <45788A99.4060803@freeshell.org> The location at which this event will take place takes place is downtown Los Alto on the Clock Tower Plaza, at the corner of State and Main Streets. The program will begin at 3:00 PM, on Sat., Dec. 9. fd Friends, On Saturday (Dec. 9) Afternoon there will be a public Peace-Memorial Vigil that will honor the American military personnel and others, including the Iraqis of course, who have lost their lives because of the Iraq War. The program that will include several designated speakers and others who may speak spontaneously, will begin at 3:00 O'Clock. You are invited to take part in this memorial. It will be appropriate to bring candles and/or flowers. (It will not be inappropriate to bring nothing.) The vigil is being organized by Los Altos Voices for Peace (LAVP), with the sponsorship of Mtn. View VP and Sunnyvale VP. The names of Californians who have perished in Iraq will be read and there will be a display of dog tags to commemorate the ultimate sacrifices made. It is the intention of the peace groups to keep this particular event free of overt political and protest actions. In the spirit of peace, Fred Duperrault, a member of VFP and MVVP From cbrouillet at igc.org Thu Dec 7 13:51:40 2006 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:51:40 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] San Francisco Tea Party Message-ID: We invite you to Party with us on December 16th, 2006! We welcome individual and organizational endorsements and participation! (See http://www.communitycurrency.org/sfteaparty.html for full details, map) In solidarity and in spirit with the Boston Tea Party for 9/11 Truth and the courageous American patriots who, on December 16, 1773 said "No!" to lack of representation and tyranny by tossing crates of British tea into Boston harbor, the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance will enact a "9/11 Truth Tea Party" on December 16, 2006, calling upon those who cherish the ideals of liberty and justice to cast off the tyrannies imposed on the American public and the world that were sold by governmental lies immediately after 9/11, and later through compounded lies and coverups within the official 9/11 Commission Report. For those who cannot cross the continent to be with our brothers and sisters in Boston, we will gather in San Francisco to hear about the ?Connected Dots? that should be ?Heard Round the World,? and to voice our own proclamation demanding an immediate, genuinely independent investigation. We applaud the efforts to re-establish Citizen Grand Juries by which the pre-Revolutionary War colonists legally threw off the yoke of tyranny. We will parade an enlarged replica of the deeply flawed 9/11 Commission Report to the waters of San Francisco Bay. There we will declare its false-conclusions ?null and void.? The catastrophic events of 9/11 and the illegal, unilateral wars and unprecedented assaults on our constitutional rights and liberties here at home, justified by the official lie about who perpetrated the 9/11 events, are at the very center of everyday life in America. We therefore will accept no compromise until the full truth of 9/11 reclaims its rightful place at the core of the American psyche. Only a complete and independent 9/11 investigation will yield the answers all Americans deserve. These answers will empower us to confront the Bush Administration?s challenges to the freedoms and democracy guaranteed by our Constitution, and to international law and basic morality. 1:00 pm Rally near the Aquarium at Pier 39 Parade along the waterfront westward 2:00 pm Rally at the base of Hyde Street Pier 2:30 pm Rally at the bleachers at Aquatic Park 2:45- 3:00 March to the end of the Municipal Pier- Cast the 9/11 Report into the Bay (Dunking 3:00 pm) *Colonial Wear - Simple instruction on becoming an american colonial patriot Tri corner hat - easily procured from costume shops and online, White loose fitting shirt to wear under vest or cloak, Vest and or Cape Pants, use corduroy pants, roll them up to the knee , Socks long socks from knee length , Black shoes (with buckle if possible) Bring a fife, drum, historical flag, hand held bells, Signs, create your own signs - use colonial typefaces if you can - Caslon is a good one To endorse, speak, volunteer, please contact- Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance- Carol 650-857-0927, or email- cbrouillet at igc.org. If you decide to go to Boston- contact them through http://www.boston911truth.org. San Francisco Bay TEA PARTY for 9/11 TRUTH PROCLAMATION 12/16/2006 Fellow citizens, the lies and deceptions of the tyrannical elite within our government regarding the crimes of September 11, 2001 have undermined our democratic processes and our liberties, and have been used to launch wars upon other nations for far too long. The White House, the Courts, and US Congress are hereby advised that we, the citizenry of these United States, declare an uncompromising DEMAND for: A genuine independent investigation of the attacks on 9/11/2001. Whereas the catastrophic events of September 11, 2001 have been used to justify attacks upon our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and habeas corpus, and whereas subsequent wars launched upon the world have, together, threatened all of humanity--physically, legally, morally, and psychologically; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission ignored the fact that the Government lied and falsified scientific data about the quality of the air and water in the wake of 9/11, thereby compounding the disaster, endangering the health of unprotected first responders and citizens, sacrificing them in the interests of re-opening Wall Street, and later fighting the victims in court to deny them health benefits; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission was directed by Dr. Philip Zelikow, author of Bush?s ?pre-emptive war doctrine,? whose tenure as a member of the Bush National Security transition team caused him to appear as a witness before the Commission and represented so outrageous a conflict of interest that the 9/11 Family Steering Committee demanded his resignation, to no avail; and whereas Dr. Zelikow's expertise is the creation and maintenance of, in his words, ?public myths,? which he defined as ?beliefs thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty),? and in what he called ??searing? or ?molding? events [that] take on ?transcendent? importance and retain their power? across generations; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate members of the Administration who also were members of the Project for a New American Century and wrote "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force," which stated the need for the Department of Defense to "move more aggressively to experiment with new technologies and operational concepts,? and that "further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor;? and Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate numerous Air Force war games conducted on September 11, 2001 that severely crippled our highly competent aircraft interception capability; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate or even mention the demolition of the 47-story World Trade Center Building 7, which was not struck by a plane, but went down at near freefall speed at 5:20 pm on 9/11; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to mention that fire had never caused steel-frame high-rise buildings to collapse, and that the pulverization of the towers shared the distinctive features of controlled demolitions, and mischaracterized the towers' core structure as ?a hollow steel shaft,? ignoring the 47 massive steel support columns as large as 22 inches by 54 inches; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate and explain how the Pentagon, within the most-guarded airspace on the planet, including its own missile defense system, was penetrated on 9/11/2001; and Whereas, the 9/11 Commission decided that who financed 9/11 was ?of little practical significance,? ignoring evidence that top ISI General Mahmoud Ahmad had $100,000 wired to alleged lead pilot Mohammed Atta, and evidence that top Al Qaeda operative Ali Mohammed, who was involved with the ?93 WTC bombings, the African Embassy attacks and 9/11, was employed and protected by the FBI, CIA and the US military; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed so utterly in its stated mission ?to prepare a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks,? that Dr. David Ray Griffin, author of The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, deemed the Commission?s effort a 571-page lie, after chronicling 115 of its ?errors;? We, people of the United States of America, today, from Boston to California, from sea to shining sea, on the sixteenth day of December in the year two thousand and six, do hereby REJECT the findings contained in the Report of the Kean-Hamilton Commission to Investigate Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, and DEMAND the release of documents, evidence, withheld by the government, and an IMMEDIATE, genuinely Independent 9/11 investigation with subpoena powers, independent 9/11 researchers, and oversight by 9/11 families and concerned citizens. Join us, be not afraid-- the day of reckoning and the end of the era of lies, deceit, tyranny, and war is at hand. May truth, peace, liberty, respect for life and justice prevail.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 7 17:50:26 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 17:50:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Greening Our Valley Potluck This Friday, Dec 8th (probably tonight when you read this) Message-ID: <772853.39014.qm@web52202.mail.yahoo.com> WHERE: The Clubhouse in the Willow Park Condo just north of the intersection of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd. (Fred & Louis Duperrault's) MAP: http://tinyurl.com/yd3hyl WHEN: Fri Dec 8th, 7pm WHAT: Greening Our Valley Potluck. The Green Party of Santa Clara County is hosting a holiday networking party. TOPIC: Building Coalition to bring progress to Silicon Valley in the new year. High on our list of priorities is IMPEACHMENT of Cheney, Bush and their henchmen. We are working to form action groups to ensure we acheive impeachment ASAP. Local issues and electing local officials is always important to us so please bring your ideas! We'll also trade ideas on celebrating holistic holidays. BRING: Some food to share (but come even if you can't), & your ideas and goodwill for working in coalition. ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From jamboi at yahoo.com Sat Dec 9 10:22:42 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:22:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney introduces bill to impeach Bush (was re: Greening Our Valley Potluck This Friday, Dec 8th) In-Reply-To: <772853.39014.qm@web52202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20061209182242.29008.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> We had a fun little group last night and a couple of disaffected Dems (who are interested in impeachment and Greening our valley) joined us. We are planning to do monthly Green Talk/Forum type things to form these kinds of coalitions with like minded people, energize and grow our party. Look below for the big news of the day: McKinney introduces bill to impeach Bush. A reminder that anyone interested in joining our coalitional effort to impeach Cheney and BushCo (tentatively called "ValleyForward") please e-mail me. Green solidarity! Drew --- JamBoi wrote: > WHERE: The Clubhouse in the Willow Park Condo just north of the > intersection of > W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd. (Fred & Louis Duperrault's) > MAP: http://tinyurl.com/yd3hyl > > WHEN: Fri Dec 8th, 7pm > > WHAT: Greening Our Valley Potluck. The Green Party of Santa Clara > County is hosting a holiday networking party. > > TOPIC: Building Coalition to bring progress to Silicon Valley in the > new year. > > High on our list of priorities is IMPEACHMENT of Cheney, Bush and > their henchmen. We are working to form action groups to ensure we > acheive impeachment ASAP. Local issues and electing local officials is > always important to us so please bring your ideas! We'll also trade > ideas on celebrating holistic holidays. > > BRING: Some food to share (but come even if you can't), & your ideas > and goodwill for working in coalition. ____________________________________ http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/news/politics/16198546.htm Posted on Fri, Dec. 08, 2006 McKinney proposes bill to impeach Bush BEN EVANS Associated Press WASHINGTON - In what could be her final legislative act in Congress, outgoing Georgia Rep. Cynthia McKinney introduced a bill Friday to impeach President Bush. The legislation has no chance of passing and serves as a symbolic parting shot not only at President Bush but also at Democratic Party leaders. Incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has made clear that she will not entertain proposals to sanction Bush and has warned the liberal wing of her party against making political hay of impeachment. McKinney, who drew national headlines this spring when she struck a Capitol police officer, has long insisted that Bush was never legitimately elected. In unveiling her legislation in the final hours of the current Congress, she said Bush had violated his oath of office to defend the Constitution and the nation's laws. The legislation says Bush misled Congress into approving the war in Iraq and violated the law with secret surveillance practices. The bill also calls for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. "With a heavy heart and in the deepest spirit of patriotism, I exercise my duty and responsibility to speak truthfully about what is before us," McKinney said Friday night. "To shy away from this responsibility would be easier, but I have not been one to travel the easy road." Since Democratic voters ousted her from office in the party primary this summer, McKinney has made no secret of her frustration with Democratic leaders. In a speech Monday at George Washington University in Washington, she blasted the party hierarchy, accusing leaders of kowtowing to Republicans on the war in Iraq and on military mistreatment of prisoners. "We're being told by them to wait on ending the war, wait on torture, wait on civil liberties, wait on learning the truth about Sept. 11," she said, speaking to more than 100 people at a panel discussion on stopping the Bush agenda. "We know that the world can't wait." McKinney also this week quietly introduced a bill that would deny federal funding to law enforcement agencies "whose officers use excessive force or violence" and that don't have transparent procedures for investigating officers accused of brutality. The bill is her response to the police shooting last month of 92-year-old Atlanta resident Kathryn Johnston, who was killed in her home as she fired on a group of plainclothes police officers who, with a warrant, knocked down her door searching for drugs. Like the impeachment bill, the police bill is largely a symbolic gesture. Lawmakers are slated to adjourn this week, and McKinney won't be returning when the new Congress is sworn in on Jan. 4. She lost her seat in the Democratic primary to Hank Johnson, a lawyer and former county commissioner who campaigned as a moderate consensus-builder. McKinney, who has not discussed her future plans, has increasingly embraced her image as a controversial figure. Along the way, her relations with Democratic leaders have grown frayed. She has hosted numerous panels on Sept. 11 conspiracy theories and suggested that President Bush had prior knowledge of the terrorist attacks but kept quiet about it to allow friends to profit from the aftermath. She introduced legislation to establish full public disclosure at the National Archives of records involving the investigation into the murder of Tupac Shakur. But it was her scuffle with a Capitol police officer in March that drew most attention. McKinney struck the officer when he tried to stop her from entering a congressional office building. The officer did not recognize McKinney, who was not wearing her member lapel pin. A grand jury in Washington declined to indict McKinney over the clash, but she eventually apologized before the House. ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Sat Dec 9 10:33:04 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:33:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party challengers urge soon-to-be House Speaker to impeach Bush Message-ID: <20061209183304.32167.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Green Party challengers urge soon-to-be House Speaker to impeach Bush FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, December 8, 2006 Contact: Susan King, spokesperson, 415.823-5524 funking at mindspring.com Sara Amir, spokesperson, 310.270-7106 saraamir at earthlink.net Cres Vellucci, press secretary, 916.996-9170 civillib at cwnet.com Green Party challengers urge soon-to-be House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to impeach Bush for 'crimes against humanity,' note Pelosi's failure to support impeachment is betrayal of voters SAN FRANCISCO (December 8, 2006) The failure of soon-to-be House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) to call for the impeachment of President George W. Bush and members of his administration should be considered a "betrayal" of her oath of office, said two former Green Party congressional candidates today. Pelosi, who has stated that impeachment is off the table, should "call George Bush before the U.S. Congress to be fully investigated for high crimes and misdemeanors, including crimes against humanity from Baghdad to Biloxi," said Krissy Keefer, who opposed Pelosi in November as the Green Party candidate in the 8th CD. Not only did Keefer receive 7.5 percent of the vote running an anti-war campaign with virtually no budget against an incumbent, San Francisco voters also approved Measure J, which asks their representatives to impeach Bush and vice president Dick Cheney. And, on Sunday, San Franciscans will be holding a giant "impeachment rally" at UN Plaza. "The war in Iraq, the botched response to Hurricane Katrina and the erosion of the Constitution cannot be overlooked. We have the moral responsibility to impeach. Failing to impeach will increase the likelihood that we may get someone capable of such crimes again," Keefer said. And, Carol Brouillet, the Green Party candidate for Congress in the nearby 14th CD (Palo Alto), said she believes Pelosi has a "duty and obligation to impeach the Bush Regime. Silence in the face of an avalanche of evidence of criminality would be a betrayal of their oath of office, the people of this country, and our hopes for the future. "The Bush Administration has flagrantly violated our Constitution, trashed the Bill of Rights, launched illegal, immoral wars, lied about matters of utmost importance to the American people. These people are, truly, terrorists on an unprecedented scale. It is up to us, the people, to force our elected representatives to recognize and adhere to their duty and hold top officials accountable for their heinous crimes, that means impeachment," Brouillet added. -30- ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From tnharter at ispwest.com Mon Dec 11 13:56:18 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:56:18 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] A look at the greens Message-ID: <457DD402.5020805@ispwest.com> At the green festival in San Fracisco, in the CoOpAmerica booth, there was a stand where they were photographing people answering the question "what's your favorite green thing to do?" You can browse the answers starting from: http://greenphoto.coopamerica.org/ I gotta tell you, it does my heart good to see how many of the people photographed showed an understanding that the energy issue is important. -- Tian Latest change: Added Thanksgiving pictures. http://tian.greens.org From fredd at freeshell.org Tue Dec 12 15:40:38 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:40:38 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jimmy Carter's Commentary Message-ID: <457F3DF6.50201@freeshell.org> FYI: On Pages 8 and 9, in yesterday's "Palo Alto Daily News," Jimmy Carter's article blames the American-Israel Political Action Committee lobby for silencing most of Congress on the Israeli - Palestinian dilemma. Apparently he elaborates on the subject in his most current book. Fred D. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 12 20:45:05 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:45:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] auto industry Message-ID: <457F8551.10403@sbcglobal.net> From an article by Jesse Jackson pointing out the decline of the auto industry. It asks questions. Do we have the answers? Obviously, this crisis requires urgent, intense national action. Are we prepared to let the auto industry die? If not, what steps can be taken to relieve the burdens of their health care and pension costs? What should be expected from the automakers in return in terms of investment, jobs guarantees, fuel efficiency and alternative-fuel cars? What penalties or incentives should be provided to the oil industry to force proliferation of alternative-fuel pumps in gas stations? How does all this fit into a concerted drive for energy independence? From jamboi at yahoo.com Wed Dec 13 11:02:38 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:02:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party supports Rep. McKinney's motion to impeach President Bush Message-ID: <20061213190238.82365.qmail@web52205.mail.yahoo.com> http://gp.org/press/pr_2006_12_11.shtml Press Release Green Party Supports Rep. McKinney's Motion to Impeach President Bush Green Party of the United States www.gp.org Monday, December 11, 2006 Contacts: Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, mclarty at greens.org Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, starlene at greens.org Greens express support for Rep. McKinney's motion to impeach President Bush WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Green Party leaders expressed support for Rep. Cynthia McKinney's (D-Ga.) motion for impeachment of President George W. Bush, noting that the Green Party of the United States endorsed impeachment of the President in 2003. "No President is above the law, and we thank Rep. McKinney for standing up for justice while the rest of her party retreats from holding President Bush accountable for a litany of high crimes and misdemeanors," said Nan Garrett, co-chair of the Georgia Green Party and one of McKinney's constituents from the state's 4th Congressional District. "Unless Democrats revive the bill in January, it will expire along with the 109th Congress, and the Bush Administration's criminality and abuses of power will go unpunished." Rep. McKinney, in her floor statement on Friday, December 8, listed deceptions that the Bush Administration used to justify launching an invasion of Iraq in 2003, including claims that Iraq possessed WMDs and represented a threat to America and its own neighbors, and noted that Mr. Bush authorized unlawful spying on American citizens, circumvented the courts, violated the separation of powers provided by the Constitution, and attempting to cover up by making false statements to the public. The Green Party has offered similar lists of reasons to impeach President Bush since 2003 . On December 18, 2005, Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) introduced into a resolution calling for the U.S. House to form "a select committee to investigate the Administration's intent to go to war before congressional authorization, manipulation of pre-war intelligence, encouraging and countenancing torture, retaliating against critics, and to make recommendations regarding grounds for possible impeachment." Greens expressed disappointment that Rep. Conyers and other Democrats have decided to not to act on the mountain of evidence that Mr. Conyers himself has compiled that President Bush has broken the law (see "The Constitution in Crisis; The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution, and Coverups in the Iraq War" ). Greens also thanked Rep. McKinney for introducing living wage legislation last week; the Green Party has made a guaranteed living wage a major goal . "Ms. McKinney was labeled a 9/11 conspiracy theorist in the media a few years ago, but the same media refused to recognize that the 9/11 Commission confirmed her allegations that the Bush Administration knew a lot more about the impending attacks than it admitted," said Katey Culver, co-chair of the Green Party of the United States. "The media and the two established parties are similarly dismissing Ms. McKinney's bill for impeachment. The lesson is that a President can be impeached for lying about sex, but not for lying about national security and shredding the U.S. Constitution." MORE INFORMATION Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org 1700 Connecticut Avenue NW, Suite 404 Washington, DC 20009. 202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN Fax 202-319-7193 "Greens Call for Impeachment of Bush, Withdrawal of Troops by the Winter Holidays" Green Party press release, July 21, 2003 http://www.gp.org/press/pr_07_21_03.html "Downing St. Memo is Evidence for Bush Impeachment" Green Party press release, June 9, 2005 http://www.gp.org/press/pr_2005_06_09.shtml "Impeach Bush and Cheney Now!" Green Party press release, January 3, 2006 http://www.gp.org/press/pr_2006_01_03.shtml "The Case for Impeachment: Why we can no longer afford George W. Bush" By Lewis H. Lapham, Harper's Magazine, March 2006 Online excerpt: http://harpers.org/TheCaseForImpeachment.html ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From wrolley at charter.net Wed Dec 13 11:45:36 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:45:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Issues in Art Message-ID: <45805860.90402@charter.net> For those who have in interest in land use, farming, agriculture, etc., there might be an interest in the current exhibit at the Sonoma County Museum in Santa Rosa. Entitled Hybrid Fields, this exhibit is described as "a group exhibition of contemporary artists creating socially engaged art that explores philosophies for growing food, distributing food, and consuming food. Their art inhabits a hybrid space where art and life, art and agriculture, converge. Sonoma County is a unique agricultural community supporting small farmers who have raised livestock and a multitude of crops through the years, including apples, hops, prunes, and increasingly, grapes. As new technologies expand our capacity for producing more food, faster, through mechanization, hybridization, and genetic engineering, questions are being raised as to the environmental and social impact of such practices. The artists in Hybrid Fields incorporate the use of humor, metaphor, research, fictive narrative, and intervention to expand the context for contemplating how far food travels from the field to the supermarket, the waste of unharvested crops, the conversion of farmland for housing, and the lack of biodiversity that commercial farming brings." It runs through 31 December. -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at ispwest.com Wed Dec 13 13:18:42 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:18:42 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Issues in Art References: 45805860.90402@charter.net Message-ID: <45806E32.40607@ispwest.com> Wes Rolley wrote: > For those who have in interest in land use, farming, agriculture, > etc., there might be an interest in the current exhibit at the Sonoma > County Museum > in > Santa Rosa. Entitled Hybrid Fields, this exhibit is described as "a > group exhibition of contemporary artists creating socially engaged art > that explores philosophies for growing food, distributing food, and > consuming food. Their art inhabits a hybrid space where art and life, > art and agriculture, converge. Sonoma County is a unique agricultural > community supporting small farmers who have raised livestock and a > multitude of crops through the years, including apples, hops, prunes, > and increasingly, grapes. As new technologies expand our capacity for > producing more food, faster, through mechanization, hybridization, and > genetic engineering, questions are being raised as to the > environmental and social impact of such practices. The artists in > Hybrid Fields incorporate the use of humor, metaphor, research, > fictive narrative, and intervention to expand the context for > contemplating how far food travels from the field to the supermarket, > the waste of unharvested crops, the conversion of farmland for > housing, and the lack of biodiversity that commercial farming brings." > > It runs through 31 December. Anybody know how to get to Santa Rosa by transit? -- Tian Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. http://tian.greens.org From wrolley at charter.net Wed Dec 13 14:11:27 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:11:27 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Issues in Art In-Reply-To: <45806E32.40607@ispwest.com> References: 45805860.90402@charter.net <45806E32.40607@ispwest.com> Message-ID: <45807A8F.7000203@charter.net> > > >Anybody know how to get to Santa Rosa by transit? > I asked a friend and they did not know of any. For you.... Cal Train to San Francisco, Ferry to Tiburon and take a bike or hitch hike. It is to hard to be Green. Better solution... car pool. I was acutally more interested in their early 2007(1/20 to 4/15) exhibit: Marguerite Wildenhain: Bauhaus to the Pond. She was a great potter and a great teacher. Wes -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From jamboi at yahoo.com Wed Dec 13 14:18:53 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:18:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sacramento Bee> Richmond's green mayor Message-ID: <955925.92039.qm@web52203.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/90303.html From: "Herbert Sample" <HSample at sacbee.com>Date: December 10, 2006 10:49:07 AM PSTSubject: Richmond mayor story Thanks for your help! Richmond's green mayor Gayle McLaughlin's narrow win in November is a first for her party in California By Herbert A. Sample - Bee San Francisco Bureau Published 12:00 am PST Sunday, December 10, 2006 When Gayle McLaughlin was a young teenager almost 40 years ago, she watched on television as peace activists enflamed by the Vietnam War and Chicago police battled outside the Democratic National Convention. The violence formed a lasting impression on McLaughlin, leading her to years of grass-roots activism in liberal and social justice circles, and eventually into the Green Party and onto the Richmond City Council. But come Jan. 9, that behind-the-scenes work will shift to a higher profile when McLaughlin, 54, takes the reins of the Bay Area's 13th largest city and one of its most troubled. McLaughlin's somewhat surprising victory last month was notable not only because she defeated an incumbent but also because it will make Richmond the largest city in the country to be run by a Green mayor, and make her the first Green to be elected mayor in California. At the same time, her victory signaled a decline in African American dominance over political affairs in Richmond. If McLaughlin's four-year term is successful -- and she concedes that sparse mayoral powers will make it difficult to push her agenda through -- she could help make the Green Party a more acceptable alternative for voters. "I think people are pretty upset with the way things are," McLaughlin said in an interview last week. "It's clear people want something different, so the opening is there." McLaughlin grew up in Chicago, the third of five daughters to a carpenter father and a housewife mother. She watched as her mother agonized over the street battles outside the 1968 Democratic National Convention in downtown Chicago. "She was really outraged that young people were mobilizing for a good cause and there was such a harsh response from the Chicago police and the political structure in Chicago," she said. "It kind of alerted me that there was a different kind of value system." As an adult, McLaughlin's political consciousness led her to work with groups opposed to U.S. policies in Central America during the 1980s, and others focused on gender and racial equality. After marrying and moving to Richmond in 1998, she turned her attention to environmental issues and the Green Party. She won a City Council seat two years ago. McLaughlin said city leaders permitted too little debate on important issues, particularly controversial housing developments and the utility taxes that Chevron's sprawling refinery pays. "There's been a strong level of corporate control in city hall," she said. It's that kind of language that has left Richmond business interests apprehensive. "Her votes over the last two years have done nothing to dispel the notion that she sees businesses as the enemy instead of the source of most of the tax revenue and all of the jobs in the city," said Joshua Genser, chairman of the Richmond Chamber of Commerce's political action committee, which endorsed incumbent Mayor Irma Anderson. He contended that McLaughlin "assumed Chevron was lying" about the taxes the firm said it should pay because Chevron has a poor reputation among liberal activists, not because there is evidence that it should pay more. Chevron once made flat utility tax payments rather than amounts based on a percentage of energy use. It recently switched to the percentage method, which resulted in a lower payment. However, Chevron refuses to release energy usage figures so the city can confirm the accuracy of the new payments. Business owners may be anxious, but other Richmond residents are elated about McLaughlin's ascendancy. Juan Reardon, who co-founded the Richmond Progressive Alliance in 2004 with McLaughlin and others, said there has too long been a perception that nothing would alter "business as usual" in Richmond. But McLaughlin's victory "represents hope and sends a signal that change is possible," he said, adding that McLaughlin's ability to galvanize the grass roots will help her prod the City Council to compromise with her. One of the mayor-elect's goals is to reduce the violence that has roiled the city for years. Richmond, a city of almost 97,000, has suffered 40 homicides this year as of Wednesday, compared with 36 at this point last year. McLaughlin said she wants a responsive police department but that the city also should focus on the roots of crime. She plans to propose a program to create 1,000 jobs over the next four years for Richmond youths that will include educational components. She also will be pushing for new parks and wider use of solar power, and against Indian casino proposals. McLaughlin's victory was one of three in the Bay Area that demonstrates Greens can win nonpartisan races, said Susan King, a state party spokeswoman. "Voters are looking more at issues rather than what political party they are registered with," she said. Robert Smith, a political scientist at San Francisco State University, said it was less McLaughlin's party affiliation and more her views, Anderson's liabilities and the presence of a third mayoral candidate that decided the election. McLaughlin's campaign literature said little about her party registration, he noted. "I don't think it represents a victory for Greens as such," said Smith, who lives in Richmond. "But it will be interesting to see whether she tries to use it to build the party, to articulate explicitly Green positions on the council." Still, King said it was striking that McLaughlin -- a white female in a political party that some regard as the province of white liberals -- defeated Anderson, an African American who has been mayor since 2001. Richmond is 35 percent white, 29 percent African American and 15 percent Asian American. Latinos, whose demographic may overlap with others, make up 34 percent of the population. As in many other Bay Area cities, Richmond's African American population is dropping and the number of Latinos is rising. The City Council included six African Americans three years ago, but there will be only two next year, along with three Latinos. Ken Nelson, president-elect of the Richmond branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said McLaughlin enjoyed some support among African American voters but added that his community must keep closer tabs on city hall now. "I'm going to hope she is sensitive to the needs of the black community," Nelson said. McLaughlin, though, said her victory demonstrates that voters who share her views on social justice and environmental responsibility want representatives "who are willing to stick their necks out for communities of all colors." Herbert A. Sample Sacramento Bee San Francisco Bay Area Bureau 510-382-1978 hsample at sacbee.com "You can't change the past, but you can ruin a perfectly good present worrying about the future." ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index From jamboi at yahoo.com Wed Dec 13 14:21:51 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:21:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Issues in Art In-Reply-To: <45807A8F.7000203@charter.net> Message-ID: <76948.48679.qm@web52213.mail.yahoo.com> I think Amtrack has a bus to Santa Rosa. There may be other bus ways as well... Green solidarity! Drew --- Wes Rolley wrote: > > > > > >Anybody know how to get to Santa Rosa by transit? > > > I asked a friend and they did not know of any. For you.... Cal > Train > to San Francisco, Ferry to Tiburon and take a bike or hitch hike. > > It is to hard to be Green. > > Better solution... car pool. > > I was acutally more interested in their early 2007(1/20 to 4/15) > exhibit: Marguerite Wildenhain: Bauhaus to the Pond. She was a great > > potter and a great teacher. > > Wes ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From vdf at juno.com Wed Dec 13 15:20:02 2006 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:20:02 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Issues in Art Message-ID: <20061213.152012.5614.1680870@webmail02.lax.untd.com> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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URL: From wrolley at charter.net Wed Dec 13 19:24:30 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:24:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 9/11 Message-ID: <4580C3EE.9060608@charter.net> Did any of you note the latest issue of HopeDance ? This is published by a San Luis Obispo County Green. Check it out. -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 00:27:47 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:27:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] auto industry In-Reply-To: <457F8551.10403@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <239774.43793.qm@web52214.mail.yahoo.com> Excellent questions Jim. And another place that the laisez faire types just have no answer. But we Greens can certainly recommend answers. May I suggest that the GPUS Eco Action Committee would be a good place to connect with to elicit a Green Party response? If the committee comes up with a press release we can put it out through the Media Committee (which I serve on). Here are the Eco Action Committee co-chairs: Mike Ewall catalyst at actionpa dot org 215-743-4884 Kristen Olson kristenolson at mngreens dot org Secretary Deanna Taylor deesings at xmission dot com Green solidarity! Drew --- Jim Doyle wrote: > From an article by Jesse Jackson pointing out the > decline of the auto industry. > > It asks questions. Do we have the answers? > " Obviously, this crisis requires urgent, intense national action. Are we prepared to let the auto industry die? If not, what steps can be taken to relieve the burdens of their health care and pension costs? What should be expected from the automakers in return in terms of investment, jobs guarantees, fuel efficiency and alternative-fuel cars? What penalties or incentives should be provided to the oil industry to force proliferation of alternative-fuel pumps in gas stations? How does all this fit into a concerted drive for energy independence?" ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 09:56:38 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 09:56:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] auto industry In-Reply-To: <45818A9C.6060506@charter.net> Message-ID: <20061214175638.78995.qmail@web52202.mail.yahoo.com> Our committee disconnection is all the more reason for us to do this. :-) I'm happy to learn you're part of the Eco-Action Committee. On health care issues (which falls somewhat under Disability Caucus which I'm also a part of) I've always thought that our American system of connecting up health care with employer is extremely wrongheaded. Extremely! Its just a way of putting a carrot out for workers to stay with an employer, no matter how oppressive the employer is. So if this bad idea goes away, I'm fine with that. Single Payer is a far better idea IMO. It could still include some kind of employer contribution towards the medical insurance, but it definitely should NOT be directly tied to the employer. Pension could be handled in a similar manner. Both of my solutions to the above problems would involve the government although the could be structured to be much less government involvement if we wanted to. As for energy independence, I think that is a fantatastic idea that we Greens can really run with. And to reach energy independence, I don't see why the Eco-Action Committee couldn't come up with ideas on incentives and penalties to get the auto industry and the petroleum industry to embrace alt-fuels more rapidly. I do think Jesse Jackson could be a significant ally for us Greens if we played our cards right. Green solidarity! Drew --- Wes Rolley wrote: > Drew, > > While the following might seem to be a good idea, the operation of > the > Eco-Action Committee (of which I am a member) and the Media Committee > > (of which you are a member) seems to be fairly disconnected. The > Media > Committee has even put out a press release that has environmental > implications with no consultation with Eco-Action. > > To begin with, most environmental questions require a certain level > > of knowledge before one can understand the ramifications of any > individual action. When you have someone on the committee who has, > or > appears to have, that knowledge (Mato Sko for water, Lorna Salzman > for > Global Warming) then you are really driven by their perceptions. In > this case, it is Lorna who is pushing very hard for Carbon Taxes. > (More > on Carbon Taxes by David Weintraub - Sacrament Bee Insider > yesterday) > > If you look at Jackson's questions, they even have very different > answers. Let me parse the list and intersperse comments. There are > two > completely different sets of questions here, mixed even in a single > sentence, and they must be taken independently. To begin with, > Jackson > implies that the solution requires action by government. > > > Obviously, this crisis requires urgent, intense national action. > Are > > we prepared to let the auto industry die? If not: what steps can be > > > taken to relieve the burdens of their health care and pension > costs? > > When you look at the financial statement of operating expenses for > the > American automakers, the charges for health care and pensions are > significantly greater than for their Japanese and Korean > counterparts. > It has been suggested that the solution for this is government > financed > universal health care, relieving corporations of ALL medical costs. > We > are not even close to any national consensus on this, though CA may > be > leading the way with new proposals from Don Perata and from the CEO > of > Kaiser this week. However, this is not an ecological issue, though > it > may be a Green Issue > > > What should be expected from the automakers in return in terms of > > investment, jobs guarantees, > > Again, we have an economic issue, both for the corporation and its > shareholders (ROI) and the unions (job guarantees). As a good > Democrat, > Jackson always keeps the unions in mind. > > > > > fuel efficiency and alternative-fuel cars? > > This is where Jackson mixes two issues in one sentence, though there > is > a connection. The move to improved fuel efficiency and > alternative-fuel > cars would require ongoing investment. However, in comparison to > other auto companies, Ford, GM and Chrysler are very heavy on > concept > and very slight in delivery. Ford seems to get the issue when it > comes > to managing it's physical plant, building or retro-fitting some of > the > lowest emission plants that exist, but they don't get it in terms of > delivering the product, too much afraid that they will cut themselves > > off from the NASCAR loving, SUV driving, Global Warming denying, > perceived mainstream of American auto buyers. > > > What penalties or incentives should be provided to the oil industry > to > > force proliferation of alternative-fuel pumps in gas stations? > > This is an interesting question, but has little to do with the auto > industry, other than the fact that it eliminates one of the excuses > that > the auto industry gives for not doing what they don't want to do, the > > old blame shift game we all learn as kids.... :"my brother made me do > it." > > > How does all this fit into a concerted drive for energy > independence?0 > > Again, this is mixing up the issues. The goal of energy independence > > seems like a good one. That is the goal that the oil industry toadies > > (e.g. Sen. Imhofe (R-OK) always pull out to justify further > exploitation > of existing reserves. The real task is to switch the perceptions so > that this is no longer a primary goal of anyone. If we keep the focus > on > global warming and it's requirement for CO2 reduction, energy > independence may just happen. > > Maybe what we need right now is a TV sitcom that does for the > environmental issues what "All in the Family" (Archie Bunker) did to > bigotry. > > Eco-Action would like to have the GP US come out with a release on > something related to Global Warming / Carbon taxation / Carbon > sequestring, etc. It won't happen quickly because I don't think tha > there is consensus in the committee. One member will push very hard > for > a Georgian Economics based solution to > everything. I also think that the National Steering Committee > hasn't > the requisite high level of concern for ecological issues, at least > in > comparison with anti-war, social justice issues. That seems to be > where > the most energy is being exerted. > > Finally, I really don't think that Jesse Jackson has much influence > in > this debate anyway. > > > Excellent questions Jim. And another place that the laisez faire > types > > just have no answer. But we Greens can certainly recommend answers. > > May I suggest that the GPUS Eco Action Committee would be a good > place > > to connect with to elicit a Green Party response? If the committee > > comes up with a press release we can put it out through the Media > > Committee (which I serve on). > > > > Here are the Eco Action Committee co-chairs: > > > > Mike Ewall > > catalyst at actionpa dot org > > 215-743-4884 > > Kristen Olson > > kristenolson at mngreens dot org > > > > Secretary > > Deanna Taylor > > deesings at xmission dot com > > > > Green solidarity! > > > > -- > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court > Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > (408)778-3024 > > "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in > and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore > > > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com From andid at cagreens.org Thu Dec 14 14:52:14 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 14:52:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? References: <00de01c71b2a$e262f160$7cef4d0c@John> Message-ID: <4DF21B46-A4F5-43D3-9E00-FDDEB26DD8F2@cagreens.org> FYI, folks! Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: "John Pozzi" > Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST > To: > Subject: Green Party Values > > > Dear Ms. Dorey, > > The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots Democracy, > Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, ,Community-Based > Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global Responsibility > andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank charter at > www.grb.net. > > > John Pozzi > 126 SE 3 Street > Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA > 954 260 4861 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 15:44:44 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:44:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? In-Reply-To: <4DF21B46-A4F5-43D3-9E00-FDDEB26DD8F2@cagreens.org> Message-ID: <579603.21496.qm@web52211.mail.yahoo.com> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as a contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol has worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before Carol got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into 'Community Currencies', hence the name of her web site: http://www.communitycurrency.org Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are about: http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html Green solidarity! Drew --- Andrea Dorey wrote: > FYI, folks! > Andrea > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: "John Pozzi" > > Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST > > To: > > Subject: Green Party Values > > > > > > Dear Ms. Dorey, > > > > The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots Democracy, > > > Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, ,Community-Based > > Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global Responsibility > > andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank charter at > > > www.grb.net. > > > > > > John Pozzi > > 126 SE 3 Street > > Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA > > 954 260 4861 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 14 17:11:33 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:11:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] This Saturday, 1PM, San Francisco Tea Party for 9/11 Truth Message-ID: <431927.58275.qm@web52209.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.communitycurrency.org/sfteaparty.html We welcome and invite those who cherish liberty, truth, justice, and peace to join us! May truth, peace, liberty, respect for life and justice prevail.* WHAT: San Francisco Tea Party for 9/11 Truth WHEN: 1PM Saturday, December 16, 2006, on the 233rd Anniversary of the first Boston Tea Party, In Solidarity with Boston 9/11 Truth S WHERE: The end of Municipal Pier in Aquatic Park where we will dump the flawed Report into the Bay: MAP: http://www.communitycurrency.org/teapartymap.jpg FUN 'COLONIAL' GARB: *Colonial Wear - Simple instruction on becoming an american colonial patriot Tri corner hat - easily procured from costume shops and online, White loose fitting shirt to wear under vest or cloak, Vest and or Cape Pants, use corduroy pants, roll them up to the knee , Socks long socks from knee length , Black shoes (with buckle if possible) Bring a fife, drum, historical flag, hand held bells, Signs, create your own signs - use colonial typefaces if you can - Caslon is a good one CONTACT - Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance- Carol 650-857-0927, or email- cbrouillet at igc.org. SCHEDULE: 1:00 pm Rally near the Aquarium at Pier 39 Parade along the waterfront westward 2:00 pm Rally at the base of Hyde Street Pier 2:30 pm Rally at the bleachers at Aquatic Park 2:45- 3:00 March to the end of the Municipal Pier- Cast the 9/11 Ommision Report into the Bay (Dunking 3:00 pm) _______________________________________ Thursday, December 14, 2006 San Francisco Tea Party for 9/11 Truth From Boston to San Francisco, on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, the rejected 9/11 Report will be tossed into oceans and rivers, modern patriots reject the tyrannical laws passed since 9/11, and demand a genuine investigation of 9/11. San Francisco, CA- In the spirit of the American patriots, who on December 16, 1773 rebuked Britain?s tyranny by tossing tea into Boston?s harbor, and in solidarity with Boston 9/11 Truth who will re-enact the tea party this Saturday with crates of the 9/11 Report, the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance will echo Boston?s call for ?all American Sons and Daughters of Liberty to cast-off the tyranny, deceit and lies imposed on the American public since 9/11? and demand a genuine, investigation of 9/11. December 16th 2006 from Boston to Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Saint Louis, Milwaukee, to San Francisco, 9/11 Truth groups will burn, shred, and toss the rejected 9/11 Report into oceans, rivers, and Lake Michigan. In San Francisco, at 1 pm, costumed activists will rally at Pier 39, bearing replicas of the flawed 9/11 Report, ringing bells, making proclamations, parading westward past Fisherman?s Wharf, to rally again at 2 pm at the foot of Hyde Street Pier, and rally at the bleachers at Aquatic Park at 2:30 pm for a final rally/press conference, before the 2:45 march to the end of Municipal Pier, where at 3 pm, the replica will be thrown into the Bay. The 9/11 Truth Movement is highly critical of the omissions and distortions of the official 9/11 Commission Report (released in 2004) which failed to answer the majority of the 9/11 victim?s families questions. Citizen led inquiries and Grand Jury trials have examined government lies, destruction of evidence, and indications of criminal negligence, malfeasance, and treason. A renewed effort is underway for the release of information and for a transparent, all-encompassing reinvestigation of the events of September 11, 2001. The Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance was founded in December, 2002, and organized the San Francisco International Inquiry into 9/11 (March 2004), premiered and produced 9/11 Truth documentaries, and distributed them to community access television stations nationwide. They have published and disseminated millions of Deception Dollars and continue to organize rallies, marches, events, and actions. MORE INFORMATION: San Francisco- www.communitycurrency.org/sfteaparty.html Boston-boston911truth.org/teaparty/ CONTACT: San Francisco- Carol Brouillet, 650.857.0927 cbrouillet at igc.org Boston- Rich McCampbell 617.980.9207(c), 978.247.1456(w), vgmrem at gmail.com or media at boston911truth.org or Jason King 781-475-0827, jason at boston911truth.org ___________________________________________ Press Advisory Thursday, December 7, 2006 Contact: Carol Brouillet 650-857-0927, cbrouillet at igc.org Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance www.sf911truth.org Jason King 781-475-0827, jason at boston911truth.org Boston 9/11 Truth boston911truth.org/teaparty San Francisco Tea Party for 9/11 Truth In Solidarity with the Boston Tea Party for 9/11 Truth and the courageous patriots who, on December 16, 1773 said ?No!? to lack of representation and tyranny, the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance will enact a ?9/11 Truth Tea Party? on December 16, 2006. We will voice our own proclamation to demand an immediate, genuinely independent investigation. We will parade an enlarged replica of the deeply flawed 9/11 Commission Report to the waters of San Francisco Bay. There we will declare its false-conclusions ?null and void? and toss it into the Bay. We will rally near Pier 39 at 1:00 pm; parade westward, to rally at 2:00 pm at the foot of Hyde Street Pier; at 2:30 pm we will hold a final Press Conference Rally at the bleachers at Aquatic Park, at 2:45 pm we will proceed to toss the Report into the Bay, at the end of the Municipal Pier (Dunking- 3:00 pm). Here are excerpts from the- San Francisco TEA PARTY for 9/11 TRUTH - PROCLAMATION the lies and deceptions of the tyrannical elite within our government regarding the crimes of September 11, 2001 have undermined our democratic processes and our liberties, and have been used to launch wars upon other nations for far too long. The White House, the Courts, and US Congress are hereby advised that we, the citizenry of these United States, declare an uncompromising DEMAND for: A genuine independent investigation of the attacks on 9/11/2001. Whereas the catastrophic events of September 11, 2001 have been used to justify attacks upon our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and habeas corpus, and whereas subsequent wars launched upon the world have, together, threatened all of humanity--physically, legally, morally, and psychologically; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission ignored the fact that the Government lied and falsified scientific data about the quality of the air and water in the wake of 9/11, thereby compounding the disaster, endangering the health of unprotected first responders and citizens, sacrificing them in the interests of re-opening Wall Street, and later fighting the victims in court to deny them health benefits; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission was directed by Dr. Philip Zelikow, author of Bush?s ?pre-emptive war doctrine,? whose tenure as a member of the Bush National Security transition team caused him to appear as a witness before the Commission and represented so outrageous a conflict of interest that the 9/11 Family Steering Committee demanded his resignation, to no avail; and whereas Dr. Zelikow's expertise is the creation and maintenance of, in his words, ?public myths,? and in what he called ??searing? or ?molding? events [that] take on ?transcendent? importance and retain their power? across generations; and Whereas the 9/11 Commission failed to investigate members of the Administration who also were members of the Project for a New American Century and wrote "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force," which stated the need for the Department of Defense to "move more aggressively to experiment with new technologies and operational concepts,? and that "further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor;? and Whereas, the 9/11 Commission decided that who financed 9/11 was of ?of little practical significance,? ignoring evidence that top ISI General Mahmoud Ahmad had $100,000 wired to alleged lead pilot Mohammed Atta, and evidence that top Al Qaeda operative Ali Mohammed, who was involved with the ?93 WTC bombings, the African Embassy attacks and 9/11, was employed and protected by the FBI, CIA and the US military; We, people of the United States of America, today, from Boston to California, from sea to shining sea, do hereby REJECT the findings contained in the 9/11 Kean-Hamilton Report, and DEMAND the release of documents, evidence, withheld by the government, and an IMMEDIATE, genuinely independent 9/11 investigation with subpoena powers, independent 9/11 researchers, and oversight by 9/11 families and concerned citizens. Link to- San Francisco Tea Party for 9/11 Truth Website http://www.communitycurrency.org/sfteaparty.html ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From tnharter at ispwest.com Fri Dec 15 11:44:14 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:44:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? References: 579603.21496.qm@web52211.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: <4582FB0E.8050200@ispwest.com> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many of the same challenges in it that spending some other community currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a Farmers Market. I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws of physics. The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics work for me. I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. JamBoi wrote: >I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as a >contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol has >worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before Carol >got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into 'Community >Currencies', hence the name of her web site: >http://www.communitycurrency.org > >Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are about: >http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html > >Green solidarity! > >Drew > >--- Andrea Dorey wrote: > > > >>FYI, folks! >>Andrea >> >> >>Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >>>From: "John Pozzi" >>>Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST >>>To: >>>Subject: Green Party Values >>> >>> >>>Dear Ms. Dorey, >>> >>>The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots Democracy, >>> >>> >>>Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, ,Community-Based >>>Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global Responsibility >>>andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank charter at >>> >>> >> >> >> >>>www.grb.net. >>> >>> >>>John Pozzi >>>126 SE 3 Street >>>Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA >>>954 260 4861 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Tian Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. http://tian.greens.org From larrycafiero_liaison at earthlink.net Fri Dec 15 12:09:57 2006 From: larrycafiero_liaison at earthlink.net (Larry Cafiero Liaison) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:09:57 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? In-Reply-To: <4582FB0E.8050200@ispwest.com> References: 579603.21496.qm@web52211.mail.yahoo.com <4582FB0E.8050200@ispwest.com> Message-ID: <45830115.10409@earthlink.net> There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, it's not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall the Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in Ithaca, N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. town. Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. Larry Cafiero Liaison to the Secretary of State Green Party of California Tian Harter wrote: > What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos > note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many > of the same challenges in it that spending some other community > currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a > Farmers Market. > > I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire > something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to > ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank > every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities > I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws of physics. > The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics > work for me. > > I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button > for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please > notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. > > JamBoi wrote: > >> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as a >> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol has >> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before Carol >> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into 'Community >> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: >> http://www.communitycurrency.org >> >> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are about: >> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html >> >> Green solidarity! >> >> Drew >> >> --- Andrea Dorey wrote: >> >> >> >>> FYI, folks! >>> Andrea >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: "John Pozzi" >>>> Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Green Party Values >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Ms. Dorey, >>>> >>>> The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots Democracy, >>>> >>>> >>>> Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, ,Community-Based >>>> Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global Responsibility >>>> andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank charter at >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> www.grb.net. >>>> >>>> >>>> John Pozzi >>>> 126 SE 3 Street >>>> Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA >>>> 954 260 4861 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > From andid at cagreens.org Fri Dec 15 15:08:41 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:08:41 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: December 19 City Council Agenda--Need people to attend!!! References: <003101c72001$65e98f50$6401a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Message-ID: FYI, Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: "Rob Means" > Date: December 14, 2006 8:27:56 PM PST > To: > Subject: FW: December 19 City Council Agenda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Althea Polanski [mailto:altheapolanski at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:41 PM > To: JerryEpps at aol.com; theo_a at comcast.net; lemery21 at comcast.net; > hrmca at earthlink.net; odonnell28 at sbcglobal.net; mareile1 at lycos.com; > artgraph at comcast.net; eteufel at email.sjsu.edu; > btrimble at sbcglobal.net; spiceman1936 at yahoo.com; CKing262 at aol.com; > trish at trishdixon.com > Cc: Barbara Ebright; Diana Shull; Heidi Pham; jack schenk; Kathryn > Gray; LaDonna; Laura Mello; Melmade1 at aol.com; Ray Mag; Syed Mohsin > (smohsin); Tom Valore > Subject: December 19 City Council Agenda > > > > > > Item # 12 on the agenda for next Tuesday?s council meeting is to > make the open government subcommittee of council members (Livengood/ > Gomez) permanent instead of a committee of community members to > have oversight of open government. This is one item those who have > serious concerns about the direction of the city should stand up > and support Mayor Esteves and I in opposition. Livengood is > running for Mayor in 2008 (term limits don?t seem to apply when you > write your own ordinances). It is time for citizens to make their > voices heard ? those planning to run for city council in 2008 need > to step up to the plate and express their opinions. Pass on the > word. The agenda is on the city web page. > > > > All the best, > > > > > > [Althea Polanski] > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at ispwest.com Sat Dec 16 00:25:55 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:25:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? In-Reply-To: <4582FB0E.8050200@ispwest.com> 45830115.10409@earthlink.net References: 579603.21496.qm@web52211.mail.yahoo.com <4582FB0E.8050200@ispwest.com> 45830115.10409@earthlink.net Message-ID: <4583AD93.7040508@ispwest.com> It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some consulting work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. (Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending experience, but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. Tian Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: > There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, it's > not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall the > Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in Ithaca, > N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. town. > > Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ > > It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. > > Larry Cafiero > Liaison to the Secretary of State > Green Party of California > > Tian Harter wrote: > >> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos >> note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many >> of the same challenges in it that spending some other community >> currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a >> Farmers Market. >> >> I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire >> something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to >> ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank >> every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities >> I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws of >> physics. >> The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics >> work for me. >> >> I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button >> for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please >> notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. >> >> JamBoi wrote: >> >>> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as a >>> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol has >>> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before Carol >>> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into 'Community >>> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: >>> http://www.communitycurrency.org >>> >>> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are about: >>> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html >>> >>> Green solidarity! >>> >>> Drew >>> --- Andrea Dorey wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> FYI, folks! >>>> Andrea >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: "John Pozzi" >>>>> Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Green Party Values >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Ms. Dorey, >>>>> >>>>> The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots Democracy, >>>>> >>>>> Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, ,Community-Based >>>>> Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global Responsibility >>>>> andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank charter at >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> www.grb.net. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John Pozzi >>>>> 126 SE 3 Street >>>>> Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA >>>>> 954 260 4861 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > -- Tian Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. http://tian.greens.org From jamboi at yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 13:25:51 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:25:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? In-Reply-To: <4583AD93.7040508@ispwest.com> Message-ID: <20061216212551.72709.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com> I really, really like this idea of community currency! I was thinking about how we could practically put this idea in effect in the short run. One form of community currency I thought of that would work for at least some people are VTA day pass tokens. Can anyone think of others forms that are available now in Santa Clara County? Green solidarity! Drew --- Tian Harter wrote: > It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the > turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some > consulting > work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. > (Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) > Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have > taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending > experience, > but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. > > Tian > > Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: > > > There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, > it's > > not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall the > > > Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in > Ithaca, > > N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. > town. > > > > Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ > > > > It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. > > > > Larry Cafiero > > Liaison to the Secretary of State > > Green Party of California > > > > Tian Harter wrote: > > > >> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos > >> note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many > >> of the same challenges in it that spending some other community > >> currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a > >> Farmers Market. > >> > >> I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire > >> something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to > >> ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank > >> every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities > >> I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws of > >> physics. > >> The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics > >> work for me. > >> > >> I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button > >> for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please > >> notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. > >> > >> JamBoi wrote: > >> > >>> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as > a > >>> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol > has > >>> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before > Carol > >>> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into > 'Community > >>> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: > >>> http://www.communitycurrency.org > >>> > >>> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are > about: > >>> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html > >>> > >>> Green solidarity! > >>> > >>> Drew > >>> --- Andrea Dorey wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> FYI, folks! > >>>> Andrea > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Begin forwarded message: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: "John Pozzi" > >>>>> Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST > >>>>> To: > >>>>> Subject: Green Party Values > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Ms. Dorey, > >>>>> > >>>>> The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots > Democracy, > >>>>> > >>>>> Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, ,Community-Based > > >>>>> Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global > Responsibility > >>>>> andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank > charter at > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> www.grb.net. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> John Pozzi > >>>>> 126 SE 3 Street > >>>>> Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA > >>>>> 954 260 4861 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Tian > Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. > http://tian.greens.org > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From fredd at freeshell.org Sat Dec 16 17:07:12 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:07:12 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? Message-ID: <45849840.7090308@freeshell.org> Yes, car wash tokens in Mtn View. Fred I really, really like this idea of community currency! I was thinking about how we could practically put this idea in effect in the short run. One form of community currency I thought of that would work for at least some people are VTA day pass tokens. Can anyone think of others forms that are available now in Santa Clara County? Green solidarity! Drew --- Tian Harter wrote: > It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the > turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some > consulting > work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. > (Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) > Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have > taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending > experience, > but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. > > Tian > > Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: > > > There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, > it's > > not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall the > > > Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in > Ithaca, > > N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. > town. > > > > Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ > > > > It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. > > > > Larry Cafiero > > Liaison to the Secretary of State > > Green Party of California > > > > Tian Harter wrote: > > > >> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos > >> note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many > >> of the same challenges in it that spending some other community > >> currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a > >> Farmers Market. > >> > >> I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire > >> something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to > >> ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank > >> every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities > >> I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws of > >> physics. > >> The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics > >> work for me. > >> > >> I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button > >> for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please > >> notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. > >> > >> JamBoi wrote: > >> > >>> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as > a > >>> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol > has > >>> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before > Carol > >>> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into > 'Community > >>> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: > >>> http://www.communitycurrency.org > >>> > >>> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are > about: > >>> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html > >>> > >>> Green solidarity! > >>> > >>> Drew > >>> --- Andrea Dorey wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> FYI, folks! > >>>> Andrea > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Begin forwarded message: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: "John Pozzi" > >>>>> Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST > >>>>> To: > >>>>> Subject: Green Party Values > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Ms. Dorey, > >>>>> > >>>>> The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots > Democracy, > >>>>> > >>>>> Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, ,Community-Based > > >>>>> Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global > Responsibility > >>>>> andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank > charter at > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> www.grb.net. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> John Pozzi > >>>>> 126 SE 3 Street > >>>>> Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA > >>>>> 954 260 4861 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > > > > > -- > Tian > Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. > http://tian.greens.org > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From jamboi at yahoo.com Sat Dec 16 19:15:02 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:15:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? In-Reply-To: <45849840.7090308@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <20061217031502.24783.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> I came up with another few that aren't necessarily local or necessarily legal to trade: food stamps, and CaLWORKs food vouchers, WIC vouchers, gas vouchers, taxi vouchers. I'd like to come up with some more local ones. Green solidarity! Drew --- Fred Duperrault wrote: > Yes, car wash tokens in Mtn View. > > Fred > > I really, really like this idea of community currency! I was > thinking > about how we could practically put this idea in effect in the short > run. One form of community currency I thought of that would work for > at > least some people are VTA day pass tokens. Can anyone think of > others > forms that are available now in Santa Clara County? > > Green solidarity! > > Drew > > --- Tian Harter wrote: > > > It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the > > turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some > > consulting > > work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. > > (Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) > > Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have > > taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending > > experience, > > but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. > > > > Tian > > > > Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: > > > > > There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, > > it's > > > not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall > the > > > > > Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in > > Ithaca, > > > N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. > > town. > > > > > > Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ > > > > > > It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. > > > > > > Larry Cafiero > > > Liaison to the Secretary of State > > > Green Party of California > > > > > > Tian Harter wrote: > > > > > >> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos > > >> note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many > > >> of the same challenges in it that spending some other community > > >> currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a > > >> Farmers Market. > > >> > > >> I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire > > >> something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to > > >> ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank > > >> every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities > > >> I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws > of > > >> physics. > > >> The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics > > >> work for me. > > >> > > >> I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button > > >> for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please > > >> notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. > > >> > > >> JamBoi wrote: > > >> > > >>> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet > as > > a > > >>> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol > > has > > >>> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. > Before > > Carol > > >>> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into > > 'Community > > >>> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: > > >>> http://www.communitycurrency.org > > >>> > > >>> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are > > about: > > >>> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html > > >>> > > >>> Green solidarity! > > >>> > > >>> Drew > > >>> --- Andrea Dorey wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> FYI, folks! > > >>>> Andrea > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Begin forwarded message: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> From: "John Pozzi" > > >>>>> Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST > > >>>>> To: > > >>>>> Subject: Green Party Values > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Dear Ms. Dorey, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots > > Democracy, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, > ,Community-Based > > > > >>>>> Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global > > Responsibility > > >>>>> andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank > > charter at > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> www.grb.net. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> John Pozzi > > >>>>> 126 SE 3 Street > > >>>>> Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA > > >>>>> 954 260 4861 ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 17 12:16:23 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 12:16:23 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] bill moyers speech Message-ID: <4585A597.3010203@sbcglobal.net> Bill Moyers gave a speech at West Point in mid November. Here is a link to a - lengthy - excerpt of that speech in which he , among many other things, mentions chickenhawks. Wait. His emphasis is from a historical perspective and has a selection of examples of West Point graduates and many more. Take heart that there is someone who speaks out as he does. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1129-21.htm From jamboi at yahoo.com Sun Dec 17 19:31:49 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:31:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Community Currency (was Re: Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank???) In-Reply-To: <20061217031502.24783.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <538560.94073.qm@web52215.mail.yahoo.com> In terms of currency in general (not so much 'community currency' per se) all these new gift cards can certainly qualify. Green solidarity! Drew --- JamBoi wrote: > I came up with another few that aren't necessarily local or > necessarily > legal to trade: food stamps, and CaLWORKs food vouchers, WIC > vouchers, > gas vouchers, taxi vouchers. > > I'd like to come up with some more local ones. > > Green solidarity! > > Drew > > --- Fred Duperrault wrote: > > > Yes, car wash tokens in Mtn View. > > > > Fred > > > > I really, really like this idea of community currency! I was > > thinking > > about how we could practically put this idea in effect in the short > > run. One form of community currency I thought of that would work > for > > at > > least some people are VTA day pass tokens. Can anyone think of > > others > > forms that are available now in Santa Clara County? > > > > Green solidarity! > > > > Drew > > > > --- Tian Harter wrote: > > > > > It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the > > > turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some > > > consulting > > > work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. > > > (Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) > > > Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have > > > taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending > > > experience, > > > but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. > > > > > > Tian > > > > > > Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: > > > > > > > There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after > all, > > > it's > > > > not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall > > the > > > > > > > Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in > > > Ithaca, > > > > N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. > > > town. > > > > > > > > Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ > > > > > > > > It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. > > > > > > > > Larry Cafiero > > > > Liaison to the Secretary of State > > > > Green Party of California > > > > > > > > Tian Harter wrote: > > > > > > > >> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos > > > >> note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many > > > >> of the same challenges in it that spending some other > community > > > >> currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a > > > >> Farmers Market. > > > >> > > > >> I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire > > > >> something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to > > > >> ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank > > > >> every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities > > > >> I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws > > of > > > >> physics. > > > >> The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of > physics > > > >> work for me. > > > >> > > > >> I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button > > > >> for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please > > > >> notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. > > > >> > > > >> JamBoi wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol > Brouillet > > as > > > a > > > >>> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that > Carol > > > has > > > >>> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. > > Before > > > Carol > > > >>> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into > > > 'Community > > > >>> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: > > > >>> http://www.communitycurrency.org > > > >>> > > > >>> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are > > > about: > > > >>> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html > > > >>> > > > >>> Green solidarity! > > > >>> > > > >>> Drew > > > >>> --- Andrea Dorey wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> FYI, folks! > > > >>>> Andrea > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Begin forwarded message: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> From: "John Pozzi" > > > >>>>> Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST > > > >>>>> To: > > > >>>>> Subject: Green Party Values > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Ms. Dorey, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots > > > Democracy, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, > > ,Community-Based > > > > > > >>>>> Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global > > > Responsibility > > > >>>>> andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank > > > charter at > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> www.grb.net. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> John Pozzi > > > >>>>> 126 SE 3 Street > > > >>>>> Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA > > > >>>>> 954 260 4861 ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jims at greens.org Sun Dec 17 20:01:46 2006 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:01:46 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [ProChoiceOrNoChoice] Anti-Contraception Zealot (Keroack) to Oversee America's Family Planning Program] Message-ID: <458612AA.E726B25C@greens.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ProChoiceOrNoChoice] Anti-Contraception Zealot (Keroack) to Oversee America's Family Planning Program Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:20:00 -0000 From: "Judy Purrington" To: ProChoiceOrNoChoice at yahoogroups.com This message has been sent to you by the Pro-Choice Coalition of Santa Clara County. Dr. Eric Keroack has demonstrated his opposition to contraception and sex education. Now, he has been appointed to advise the U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt on issues related to reproductive health; and more importantly will oversee Title X -- America's 30 year old, successful family planning program. An Anti- Contraception physician is clearly NOT the right person for that job! WHAT CAN YOU DO? 1 -- Follow the link below and sign the Planned Parenthood Petition to Secretary Leavitt, asking that he remove Dr. Keroack. http://www.ppaction.org/campaign/keroackpetition2/ 2 -- Write a Letter to the Editor of your local Daily or Weekly newspaper. Make it short and to the point. You can find the submission instructions on the editorial page, and usually on the newspaper's website. Who is Eric Keroack? When Eric Keroack began work as the newly appointed deputy assistant secretary for population affairs (DASPA) last November, he did so amid deep concern and fierce criticism. Upon his appointment, pro- choice, pro-family planning legislators and family planning and women's health advocates across the United States expressed outrage that a person who so opposes the basic tools of family planning ? birth control and sex education ? would be put in charge of the nation's family planning program. As DASPA, Keroack will advise U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary (HHS) Michael O. Leavitt on vital issues related to reproductive health and adolescent pregnancy in the United States and, more important, will oversee Title X ? America's family planning program, which provides high-quality family planning and preventive health services to millions of low-income individuals each year. Title X Matters Title X has a proven track record as a cost-effective program for preventing unintended pregnancies and improving the health of women. Since its inception more than 30 years ago, Title X has helped prevent an estimated 20 million unintended pregnancies. But in that time, funding for this vital program has dropped by nearly 60 percent, when adjusted for inflation, even as health care costs have soared and as an increasing number of women are in need of publicly funded family planning services. According to a recent report by the Guttmacher Institute, doubling the current Title X budget of $283 million could prevent 244,000 unplanned pregnancies each year and save Americans roughly $800 million. But the question remains ? what will happen to Title X under Keroack? Will he favor unproven abstinence-only programs when doling out education and counseling grants? Will he instate new regulations for family planning clinics that will make the delivery of medically accurate, unbiased health information more difficult? Or will he advocate for more funding for effective pregnancy prevention, such as comprehensive, medically accurate sex education and birth control access? Title X is charged with providing "access to contraceptive supplies and information to all who want and need them," according to HHS. But Keroack has a history of involvement with organizations that do exactly the opposite ? they promote an anti-contraception, anti-choice, and pro-abstinence-only ideology, bolstered by medical misinformation. Every Woman's Concern Much of the opposition to Keroack's appointment stems from his previous role as medical director for A Woman's Concern (AWC), a nonprofit group that runs six so-called "crisis pregnancy centers" in Massachusetts.. Under Keroack's supervision, AWC health centers would not distribute, encourage the use of, or offer referrals for contraceptive drugs and devices. AWC states in its material that "the crass commercialization and distribution of birth control is demeaning to women, degrading of human sexuality and adverse to human health and happiness." The group not only opposes contraception and abortion, it goes one step further ? promoting misleading and deceptive reproductive health information. AWC's materials incorrectly characterize traditional forms of birth control as abortifacients, wrongly claim that the distribution of contraception increases the number of pregnancies, and distort research to make false claims about condoms and HIV. The group also advances the myth that abortion increases a woman's risk for breast cancer, despite scientific studies that have consistently shown otherwise. And despite their masquerade as family planning clinics, the only "services" AWC "crisis pregnancy centers" provide are pregnancy tests and ultrasounds administered for the sole purpose of emotionally intimidating women into carrying unintended pregnancies to term. This type of biased counseling flies in the face of the Title X requirement that women facing an unintended pregnancy be provided nondirective options counseling upon request ? meaning neutral, factual information on prenatal care and delivery; infant care, foster care or adoption; and pregnancy termination. Unexcused Abstinence AWC is also the parent organization of Healthy Futures, the largest faith-based abstinence-only program in Massachusetts, and the group to which Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney awarded nearly $1 million in federal funding to provide abstinence-only programs to the state's public schools. Romney's decision earlier this year marked the first time these federal abstinence-only funds were directed toward the classroom in Massachusetts. (In previous years, those funds went toward media campaigns.) Keroack himself lectures far and wide on abstinence for organizations like The Abstinence Clearinghouse. In his prepared talks, he has compared premarital sex to "modern germ warfare" and, drawing from a study on rodents, suggests that premarital sex diminishes a person's ability to emotionally bond with future partners. The Road Ahead In his new role, Keroack will have primary influence over the type of information and services disseminated to millions of women, men, and teens in need of reliable reproductive health care. Many critics of his appointment are deeply concerned that he may develop new regulations for Title X clinics, set new priorities for the program as a whole, and influence how federal money is spent, to the detriment of the health of women and teens across the country. Indeed, his appointment will most significantly affect the people who are least able to access high-quality, scientifically sound, and medically accurate reproductive health care ? the poor and uninsured. This does not sit well with the more than two dozen leading reproductive health care providers and advocates who have asked Secretary Leavitt to pull Keroack's appointment, nor the 21 legislators who have called for the same, nor the more than 72,000 individuals who had signed Planned Parenthood's petition to replace Keroack with a family planning advocate who is for family planning, nor the countless editorial boards across the nation that have seriously questioned Keroack's appointment. But the administration has thus far stood by the appointment. Indeed, in response to letters from members of both the House and Senate calling for Keroack's appointment to be rescinded, a spokesperson for HHS defended the appointment, saying that Keroack "has expressed to us that he will fulfill his programmatic responsibilities in accordance with the law, and we believe him." But Keroack has remained silent on the matter, and his history does not give reason for optimism. Planned Parenthood is sponsoring an online petition addressed to Secretary Leavitt urging him to replace Dr. Keroack with an administrator who is committed to protecting women's health. To date, more than 72,000 people have added their names to the list. We urge you to do the same. __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar [Yahoo! Groups] Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 10 New Members Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS * Santa clara county * Abortion debates * Pro choice * Pro-choice Yahoo! News Adventure Beat Travel the world with Richard Bangs Yahoo! TV Want the scoop? Check out today's news and gossip. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. . [Image] __,_._,___ From tnharter at ispwest.com Sun Dec 17 23:40:22 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:40:22 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? References: 20061216212551.72709.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: <458645E6.20001@ispwest.com> On many occasions I've traded one of my stickers for something else. I don't think that would work for just anybody, and I rarely get repeat customers. Still, I like it as a low stakes form of barter. JamBoi wrote: >I really, really like this idea of community currency! I was thinking >about how we could practically put this idea in effect in the short >run. One form of community currency I thought of that would work for at >least some people are VTA day pass tokens. Can anyone think of others >forms that are available now in Santa Clara County? > >Green solidarity! > >Drew > >--- Tian Harter wrote: > > > >>It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the >>turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some >>consulting >>work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. >>(Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) >>Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have >>taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending >>experience, >>but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. >> >>Tian >> >>Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: >> >> >> >>>There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, >>> >>> >>it's >> >> >>>not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall the >>> >>> >>>Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in >>> >>> >>Ithaca, >> >> >>>N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. >>> >>> >>town. >> >> >>>Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ >>> >>>It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. >>> >>>Larry Cafiero >>>Liaison to the Secretary of State >>>Green Party of California >>> >>>Tian Harter wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos >>>>note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many >>>>of the same challenges in it that spending some other community >>>>currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a >>>>Farmers Market. >>>> >>>>I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire >>>>something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to >>>>ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank >>>>every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities >>>>I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws of >>>>physics. >>>>The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics >>>>work for me. >>>> >>>>I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button >>>>for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please >>>>notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. >>>> >>>>JamBoi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as >>>>> >>>>> >>a >> >> >>>>>contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol >>>>> >>>>> >>has >> >> >>>>>worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before >>>>> >>>>> >>Carol >> >> >>>>>got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into >>>>> >>>>> >>'Community >> >> >>>>>Currencies', hence the name of her web site: >>>>>http://www.communitycurrency.org >>>>> >>>>>Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are >>>>> >>>>> >>about: >> >> >>>>>http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- Tian Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. http://tian.greens.org From wrolley at charter.net Mon Dec 18 09:46:11 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:46:11 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Common currency... or courtesy. Message-ID: <4586D3E3.4050200@charter.net> Having the luxury of 0.5 acres, my wife and I raise a lot of vegetablesw and fruit. The day hardly goes by that we don't eat something that we raised ourselves. Right now, we are working on the last of our pineapple guava. Our mandarin oranges are almost ready to be picked. With such largess, we frequently share with our neighbors, at least 10 families in our neighborhood. Responses vary signifantly from returning favors (eg. lemon cake flavored with our lemons) to "is that all?" I recently re-read the story of Erwin Hansen. Hansen grew up in the mountains of eastern Arizona. This was the same area devastated by the fires of 2002. His family moved to the mountains in 1906. He had spent 70 years there by the time his remembrances were published in the June 1975 edition of Arizona Highways. According to Hansen, ?My daddy always was a neighbor-lovin' man. But shucks, back in those days, everybody helped everybody else. We had to. For instance, if all your neighbors were down with the flu and you weren't feelin' so hot yourself, you'd still go out and try to hunt up some grub. Maybe it would be nothin' but a crippled rabbit, but you'd find something. You always fed your neighbors first. That was how we got along.? Maybe we need to re-learn that relaince on our neighbors to create a significant change in society. I am not sure that a new bank handling a new form of currency really changes how people deal with life. It seems to me like a solution to a problem that most people don't think they have. At some point, we will understand that we all have to rely on each other just to live. Maybe Global Warming will make that happen. Maybe losing the water from the California Delta will be the catalyst. Otherwise this is just a parlor game. -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From tnharter at ispwest.com Mon Dec 18 11:37:04 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:37:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Common currency... or courtesy. References: 4586D3E3.4050200@charter.net Message-ID: <4586EDE0.3070109@ispwest.com> Wes Rolley wrote: >Having the luxury of 0.5 acres, my wife and I raise a lot of vegetablesw >and fruit. The day hardly goes by that we don't eat something that we >raised ourselves. Right now, we are working on the last of our >pineapple guava. Our mandarin oranges are almost ready to be picked. > >With such largess, we frequently share with our neighbors, at least 10 >families in our neighborhood. Responses vary signifantly from returning >favors (eg. lemon cake flavored with our lemons) to "is that all?" > > I found a few homes with lots of fruit trees or other garden activity while I was walking precincts. I came home with my pockets full of quinces one time. The guy I met at that house practically forced me to take them. I didn't complain. It was only after bringing them home that I figured out my mom made pies out of them when we had our own quince tree. She had to. They are inedible without cooking. Cooking them REALLY brought back memories. I would have gone back for more if my CC campaign hadn't been keeping me so busy. >I recently re-read the story of Erwin Hansen. Hansen grew up in the >mountains of eastern Arizona. This was the same area devastated by the >fires of 2002. His family moved to the mountains in 1906. He had spent >70 years there by the time his remembrances were published in the June >1975 edition of Arizona Highways. According to Hansen, ?My daddy always >was a neighbor-lovin' man. But shucks, back in those days, everybody >helped everybody else. We had to. For instance, if all your neighbors >were down with the flu and you weren't feelin' so hot yourself, you'd >still go out and try to hunt up some grub. Maybe it would be nothin' but >a crippled rabbit, but you'd find something. You always fed your >neighbors first. That was how we got along.? > >Maybe we need to re-learn that relaince on our neighbors to create a >significant change in society. I am not sure that a new bank handling a >new form of currency really changes how people deal with life. It seems >to me like a solution to a problem that most people don't think they >have. At some point, we will understand that we all have to rely on >each other just to live. Maybe Global Warming will make that happen. >Maybe losing the water from the California Delta will be the catalyst. > >Otherwise this is just a parlor game. > I subscribe to Coin World, a great rag to read about the history of money in. I read an article about how back in the 1800s starting a bank consisted of paying for the printing of a trunk full of money. For the bank to work though, you had to find a way to circulate the money where everybody got value out of the transactions they made. I had an uncle who was a Texas banker, and some of his stories about being the banker in a small town were VERY INTERSTING. I'd like to see some of that type of work fall into the political system. Seems like the value that you get from listening to a good idea is the kind of starting point we could participate in win/win from. Every now and then Coin World has another article about another local currency, along with pictures of sample notes and an address you can mail money off to to buy your own bills to collect. I ended up with local money from a town in Kansas that way. I'd be glad to sell one of those notes to anybody that wants to try and spend it. It would be fraud to get someone to take it who didn't realize that they were going to have to build the market for that money. -- Tian Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. http://tian.greens.org From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Dec 19 10:09:27 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:09:27 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] progressives and libertarians ... a match made in heaven? Message-ID: <45882AD7.4050709@earthlink.net> From a list in Vermont that includes Greens and Progressives. (NOTE: Vermont has a Progressive Party that is bigger than the Vermont Green Party, and has won some state legislature seats.) Gerry -------- Original Message -------- I've long believed that liberatarians and progressives (small 'l' and 'p', not captalized) had more in common with each other than generally realized. I found the following to be an interesting adjunct to that concept: "Libertarian Party candidates may have cost Senators Jim Talent (R.-Mo.) and Conrad Burns (R.-Mont.) their seats, tipping the Senate to Democratic control." http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=14106 I bring this up to point something else I believe: while the liberatarians are willing to flout their muscle and get pushier because of the political power implied by the above article, I find most progressives get timid under similiar circumstances. Time for the agressive progressive maybe? Of course this is all just my opinion, but it's a strong one, Rama From fredd at freeshell.org Wed Dec 20 00:14:29 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:14:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] progressives and libertarians ... a match made in heaven? Message-ID: <4588F0E5.1020804@freeshell.org> In the Twenties, Thirties and Forties there was a succesfulwisconsin Progressive party led by the La Follets. Gaylor Nelson was a Progressive until the party broke up. Then he joined the Democratic Party. However, most joined the Republican Party. (The Democratic Party was very weak at that time.) Republican Leroy Gore, who started the "Joe Must Go" campaign to recall Sen. Joe McCarthy, had been a Progressive. I think a Progressive party, with a similar philosophy to the Green Party, might have more potential for growth. Democrats would have less reluctance to join. for one. What d'y'all think? Fred From a list in Vermont that includes Greens and Progressives. (NOTE: Vermont has a Progressive Party that is bigger than the Vermont Green Party, and has won some state legislature seats.) Gerry -------- Original Message -------- I've long believed that liberatarians and progressives (small 'l' and 'p', not captalized) had more in common with each other than generally realized. I found the following to be an interesting adjunct to that concept: "Libertarian Party candidates may have cost Senators Jim Talent (R.-Mo.) and Conrad Burns (R.-Mont.) their seats, tipping the Senate to Democratic control." http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=14106 I bring this up to point something else I believe: while the liberatarians are willing to flout their muscle and get pushier because of the political power implied by the above article, I find most progressives get timid under similiar circumstances. Time for the agressive progressive maybe? Of course this is all just my opinion, but it's a strong one, Rama _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From jamboi at yahoo.com Wed Dec 20 12:07:15 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:07:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] progressives and libertarians ... a match made in heaven? In-Reply-To: <4588F0E5.1020804@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <809994.14202.qm@web52209.mail.yahoo.com> I strongly agree that there is plenty 'o room in America's political marketplace for a progressive party to spring up and have possibly more growth potential than we Greens have. We Greens have chosen some specific strategies that in some ways limit our appeal. For one thing we insist on maintaining our own name - Green Party. I don't know how many times recently Dems have said to me "Do you think the Greens might be amenable to changing their name so that they'll appeal more to disaffected Dems?" (To which I answer, 'of course not silly! We Greens have our own unique identity. We are an international movement with deep roots and our own unique political theory and economic theory. Its not like we are just Dem lite and that swiching a name would make any difference or sense. And its not like we are so tactically oriented that we would put out front organizations like the Communists and Democrats do - ie MoveOn.org.') For another we have chosen the very narrow road of taking no corporate funding. That is a huge decision that effects every aspect of our viability as a party in the United Corporations of America (our new name, UCA instead of USA). We have chosen to unilaterally disarm ourselves. I fully support this decision while at the same time I acknowledge that it is a decision that many other liberals and progressives are not willing to make. For another we have this strong emphasis put on decentralization, grassroots democracy and concensus. That is so counter to the way other parties work (with the possible exception of the libertarians and libertarian socialists) that I realize its a major cultural shift for people entering our midst. So yes, I do believe there's plenty 'o room for a another progressive party to spring up and possibly even be quite successful in America. That is definitely not to say that I would ever join such a party. I have chosen the Green Party for very definite reasons: I strongly agree with our 10 Key Values. I don't see any other potential progressive party taking the idealistic stands that we are. For instance I think they would likely be okay with corporate money unlike us. So I'd welcome the competition! Frankly I think it would sharpen us to have some coopetition going. Dems have painted a big target on us, so that its hard for us to gain Dem converts. Okay fine, that's just a fact of life. For us to grow we need to teach everyone (Dems included) about our unique qualities and that we are not merely a progressive party. Many aspects of a progressive party could be achieved without it being a truly 'Green' party. We need to differentiate ourselves in people's minds so they can make an informed choice about where to put their energy into. If they don't want to join us explicitly, that's okay with me, but I'd still like to build coalition with other forward thinking lefties, liberals, moderates (like me) and even conservatives. That is the only way we can really succeed. Green solidarity! Drew --- Fred Duperrault wrote: > > In the Twenties, Thirties and Forties there was a succesfulwisconsin > Progressive party led by the La Follets. Gaylor Nelson was a > Progressive until the party broke up. Then he joined the Democratic > Party. However, most joined the Republican Party. (The Democratic > Party > was very weak at that time.) > > Republican Leroy Gore, who started the "Joe Must Go" campaign to > recall > Sen. Joe McCarthy, had been a Progressive. > > I think a Progressive party, with a similar philosophy to the Green > Party, might have more potential for growth. Democrats would have > less > reluctance to join. for one. > > What d'y'all think? > > Fred > > From a list in Vermont that includes Greens and Progressives. > (NOTE: Vermont has a Progressive Party that is bigger than > the Vermont Green Party, and has won some state legislature > seats.) > > Gerry > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > I've long believed that liberatarians and progressives > (small 'l' and 'p', not captalized) had more in common > with each other than generally realized. I found the > following to be an interesting adjunct to that concept: > "Libertarian Party candidates may have cost Senators > Jim Talent (R.-Mo.) and Conrad Burns (R.-Mont.) their > seats, tipping the Senate to Democratic control." > > http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=14106 > > I bring this up to point something else I believe: while > the liberatarians are willing to flout their muscle and > get pushier because of the political power implied by the > above article, I find most progressives get timid under > similiar circumstances. Time for the agressive progressive > maybe? > > Of course this is all just my opinion, but it's a strong one, > > Rama ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Wed Dec 20 13:13:22 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:13:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Final 2006 election tally Message-ID: <435199.17125.qm@web52212.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:30:13 -0800 From: Larry Cafiero_CCWG Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] Final election tally To: gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org As I mentioned to Drew earlier this month, I said I'd send the final tally when the Secretary of State's office finally got around to finalizing them. They're final now. If you want to see them on-line, go to http://ss.ca.gov/elections/sov/2006_general/contents.htm and click on the any of the links that might interest you. As it turns out, here are the final numbers for Green candidates: Federal races: U.S. Senate -- Todd Chretien 147,074 (1.8 percent) 3rd U.S. House District 1 -- Pamela Elizondo 6,899 (3.1 percent) 3rd U.S. House District 5 -- Jeff Kravitz 6,466 (4.3 percent) 3rd U.S. House District 8 -- Krissy Keefer 13,653 (7.4 percent) 3rd U.S. House District 14 -- Carol Brouillet 4,633 (2.3 percent) 4th U.S. House District 21 -- John Miller 4,728 (3.3 percent) 3rd U.S. House District 28 -- Byron DeLear 3,868 (3.5 percent) 3rd U.S. House District 29 -- Bill Paparian 8,197 (5.7 percent) 3rd State races: Governor -- Peter Camejo 205,995 (2.3 percent) 3rd Lt. Governor -- Donna Warren 239,107 (2.8 percent) 3rd Secretary of State -- Forrest Hill 181,369 (2.2 percent) 3rd Controller -- Laura Wells 260,047 (3.2 percent) 3rd Treasurer -- Mehul Thakker 201,670 (2.4 percent) 4th Attorney General -- Mike Wyman 195,130 (2.3 percent) 3rd Insurance Commissioner -- Larry Cafiero 270,218 (3.2 percent) 4th State Senate District 4 -- Bob Vizzard 8,520 (2.8 percent) 3rd State Senate District 18 -- Matthew Rick 4,923 (2.3 percent) 3rd State Assembly District 4 -- Jerry Fritts 5,025 (3.0 percent) 4th State Assembly District 6 -- Cat Woods 6,922 (4.3 percent) 3rd State Assembly District 12 -- Barry Hermanson 13,174 (12.6 percent) 3rd State Assembly District 34 -- David Silva 2.793 (3.3 percent) 3rd State Assembly District 44 -- Richard Costa 4,662 (4.1 percent) 4th State Assembly District 53 -- Peter Thottam 3,070 (2.3 percent) 3rd Hope this helps. Larry Cafiero Liaison to the Secretary of State Green Party of California ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Wed Dec 20 13:36:14 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:36:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Another Green Party candidate pulls upset over incumbent claims thin win in college board race; Follows Green victory in Richmond mayor election Message-ID: <20061220213614.92651.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com> http://cagreens.org/press/pr061129.shtml Another Green Party candidate pulls upset over incumbent, claims thin win in college board race; Follows Green victory in Richmond mayor election GREEN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA NEWS RELEASE SAN FRANCISCO (November 29, 2006) - A Green Party candidate has pulled off yet another upset of an incumbent here with the announcement today from the San Francisco Elections Department that John Rizzo has now built an insurmountable, 300-vote lead and has officially registered a victory over Community College Board incumbent Johnnie Carter. The win follows the election of Green Gayle McLaughlin as mayor of Richmond over the incumbent in that city, a working class suburb of San Francisco with a population of about 104,000. Richmond becomes the biggest city in the U.S. where at Green is at the helm, and the first in California where a Green was directly elected as mayor. McLaughlin, who first won office in 2004 on the Richmond City Council, was outspent 10-1 by the incumbent. Rizzo is more than 300 votes ahead of Carter after counting of provisional and other ballots. Counting continues, but the elections office says the lead is insurmountable. Rizzo has 68,324 votes (16.95 percent) good for the third and final available spot. Carter has 68,000 votes (16.87 percent). Another Green, Bruce Wolfe, finished just behind Carter with 51,255 votes. "This is great news for the thousands of students in San Francisco's Community College System. John's win will mean greater accountability," said Erika McDonald, spokesperson for the San Francisco Green Party. Rizzo chairs the 40,000 member Sierra Club Bay Area Chapter and is a member of the City College Bond Oversight Committee, and a City commissioner. His work with the Sierra Club includes fighting global warming by promoting clean-energy alternatives to imported fossil fuels, conserving water resources, and fighting for a better public transportation system. He has helped to pass ballot measures to fund solar energy and that require Muni to buy less-polluting city buses. "John Rizzo's campaign and our amazing volunteers proved that individuals with passion, conviction, and time to devote to doing the right thing, can reach an entire city and change the future for the better. San Francisco voters, regardless of party, district, or background, truly want to support candidates who will fight for education, the environment, social justice, and financial accountability. That is why our grassroots campaign reached out to people and neighborhoods throughout the entire city. Voters clearly recognized that City College needed a new progressive voice for our citizens, students, faculty and staff. That new voice is newly elected College Board Trustee John Rizzo," said Aimee Harcos, Campaign Manager for John Rizzo Greens now hold 52 elected offices in California. Of 62 Greens on the state ballot Nov. 7, including state, federal and local races, 18 Greens, or 29 percent, won. Four captured city council spots while six Greens won seats on boards of education. Greens have the majority of seats (3/5) on the Sebastopol City Council and four of nine on the Berkeley rent stabilization board. -30- More Information California Green Party Election Results: www.cagreens.org/media/Election2006 U.S. Green Party Election Results: www.gp.org/elections John Rizzo campaign contact: Aimee at 916-812-4027 Contacts: Crescenzo Vellucci, State Press Office, 916-996-1970, civillib at cwnet.com Sara Amir (Los Angeles), 310-270-7106, saraamir at earthlink.net Susan King (San Francisco), 415-823-5524, funking at mindspring.com The Green Party of California http://www.cagreens.org P.O. Box 2828, Sacramento, CA 95812 Phone: (916) 448-3437 EMail: gpca at greens.org ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tnharter at ispwest.com Thu Dec 21 14:04:12 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:04:12 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Raging Grannies, Cindy Shehan, and a Boston Tea Party Message-ID: <458B04DC.6080500@ispwest.com> Last weekend was a big activism time around here. On Friday the Raging Grannies took on Jeppesen, a company with offices in San Jose that has been helping the CIA: http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/PeaceVigilDec06/StopJeppesen.html Not long after that Cindy Shehan gave an interesting speech: http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/PeaceVigilDec06/index.html Then on Saturday the 9/11 Truth activists held a Boston style Tea Party: http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/Dec06/TeaParty/index.html -- Tian Latest change: Added Boston style Tea Party pictures. http://tian.greens.org From andid at cagreens.org Tue Dec 26 10:05:51 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:05:51 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Thoughts for 2007 In-Reply-To: <45705D9F.30107@charter.net> References: <45705D9F.30107@charter.net> Message-ID: <87AD95B0-46B0-4344-9BDE-42CCC676433B@cagreens.org> Yes, great idea! On Dec 1, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: > With the election behind us, I would like to suggest that we try > something novel. We know what offices will be on the ballot in 2008. > We know which incumbents will be termed out when that happens. > (e.g. Don > Gage, Supervisor, Dist. 1) > > Maybe now is the time when we should identify specific offices that we > would want to target by 2008 and start looking for potential > candidates. I am sure that there are qualified people that can be > encouraged to start thinking about this and whom we can help develop, > including helping them to gain name recognition among the public. > > Wes > > -- > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court > Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > (408)778-3024 > > "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe > in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry > Moore > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Tue Dec 26 10:16:57 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:16:57 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party challengers urge soon-to-be House Speaker to impeach Bush In-Reply-To: <20061209183304.32167.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061209183304.32167.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <93FF5F45-C47E-44E8-8A67-7F132C540456@cagreens.org> It's statements like these in Drew's posting that make me proud to be a Green Party member! On Dec 9, 2006, at 10:33 AM, JamBoi wrote: > Green Party challengers urge soon-to-be House Speaker to impeach Bush > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Friday, December 8, 2006 > Contact: Susan King, spokesperson, 415.823-5524 funking at mindspring.com > Sara Amir, spokesperson, 310.270-7106 saraamir at earthlink.net > Cres Vellucci, press secretary, 916.996-9170 civillib at cwnet.com > > Green Party challengers urge soon-to-be House Speaker > Nancy Pelosi to impeach Bush for 'crimes against humanity,' > note Pelosi's failure to support impeachment is betrayal of voters > > SAN FRANCISCO (December 8, 2006) The failure of soon-to-be House > Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco) to call for the impeachment of > President George W. Bush and members of his administration should be > considered a "betrayal" of her oath of office, said two former Green > Party congressional candidates today. > > Pelosi, who has stated that impeachment is off the table, should "call > George Bush before the U.S. Congress to be fully investigated for high > crimes and misdemeanors, including crimes against humanity from > Baghdad > to Biloxi," said Krissy Keefer, who opposed Pelosi in November as the > Green Party candidate in the 8th CD. > > Not only did Keefer receive 7.5 percent of the vote running an anti- > war > campaign with virtually no budget against an incumbent, San Francisco > voters also approved Measure J, which asks their representatives to > impeach Bush and vice president Dick Cheney. > > And, on Sunday, San Franciscans will be holding a giant "impeachment > rally" at UN Plaza. > > "The war in Iraq, the botched response to Hurricane Katrina and the > erosion of the Constitution cannot be overlooked. We have the moral > responsibility to impeach. Failing to impeach will increase the > likelihood that we may get someone capable of such crimes again," > Keefer said. > > And, Carol Brouillet, the Green Party candidate for Congress in the > nearby 14th CD (Palo Alto), said she believes Pelosi has a "duty and > obligation to impeach the Bush Regime. Silence in the face of an > avalanche of evidence of criminality would be a betrayal of their oath > of office, the people of this country, and our hopes for the future. > > "The Bush Administration has flagrantly violated our Constitution, > trashed the Bill of Rights, launched illegal, immoral wars, lied about > matters of utmost importance to the American people. These people are, > truly, terrorists on an unprecedented scale. It is up to us, the > people, to force our elected representatives to recognize and > adhere to > their duty and hold top officials accountable for their heinous > crimes, > that means impeachment," Brouillet added. > -30- > > ___________________ > > JamBoi > Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. > Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Tue Dec 26 10:54:59 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 10:54:59 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] auto industry--what about electric cars? In-Reply-To: <20061214175638.78995.qmail@web52202.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061214175638.78995.qmail@web52202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8D3A9B42-D940-43F6-A149-E5E1304E7B7D@cagreens.org> I am constantly amazed at people who fail to understand that cars need not include fuels that have to be pumped at gas stations! Take a look at the latest (carefully groomed and PR-pretty) entry to the electric car class: the Tesla Motors Roadster (http:// teslamotors.com/index). All electric, sexy, high-speed (135 mpg equivalent), 0-60 in 4 seconds, 1 cent per mile driving cost, 250? miles per electric charge with a very short charge time--while you sleep at home and not standing at a gas pump being poisoned by whatever fuel of your preference. I for one do not want to remain tethered to Exxon's umbilical cord, however ultra-green they paint their new fuels. Tesla Motors is planning a more affordable car for the rest of us which is predicted to start production in 2 years, after they make millions(?) off their $100,000 Roadster which has already sold out for 2007 and is already accumulating orders for 2008. The electric car is not dead yet (whether Detroit likes it or not) and, indeed, is likely to be the big winner when more of us opt for PV panels on the roof so we can drive our e-cars for pennies and enjoy free electricity from PG&E (whether *they* like it or not). With the new batteries we will see even greater mileage per charge. BTW, the Tesla website has a link to their newsletter list for a *very* savvy discussion of issues; check it out! Andrea On Dec 14, 2006, at 9:56 AM, JamBoi wrote: > Our committee disconnection is all the more reason for us to do this. > :-) I'm happy to learn you're part of the Eco-Action Committee. > > On health care issues (which falls somewhat under Disability Caucus > which I'm also a part of) I've always thought that our American system > of connecting up health care with employer is extremely wrongheaded. > Extremely! Its just a way of putting a carrot out for workers to stay > with an employer, no matter how oppressive the employer is. So if > this > bad idea goes away, I'm fine with that. Single Payer is a far better > idea IMO. It could still include some kind of employer contribution > towards the medical insurance, but it definitely should NOT be > directly > tied to the employer. > > Pension could be handled in a similar manner. > > Both of my solutions to the above problems would involve the > government > although the could be structured to be much less government > involvement > if we wanted to. > > As for energy independence, I think that is a fantatastic idea that we > Greens can really run with. > > And to reach energy independence, I don't see why the Eco-Action > Committee couldn't come up with ideas on incentives and penalties to > get the auto industry and the petroleum industry to embrace alt-fuels > more rapidly. > > I do think Jesse Jackson could be a significant ally for us Greens if > we played our cards right. > > Green solidarity! > > Drew > > --- Wes Rolley wrote: > >> Drew, >> >> While the following might seem to be a good idea, the operation of >> the >> Eco-Action Committee (of which I am a member) and the Media Committee >> >> (of which you are a member) seems to be fairly disconnected. The >> Media >> Committee has even put out a press release that has environmental >> implications with no consultation with Eco-Action. >> >> To begin with, most environmental questions require a certain level >> >> of knowledge before one can understand the ramifications of any >> individual action. When you have someone on the committee who has, >> or >> appears to have, that knowledge (Mato Sko for water, Lorna Salzman >> for >> Global Warming) then you are really driven by their perceptions. In >> this case, it is Lorna who is pushing very hard for Carbon Taxes. >> (More >> on Carbon Taxes by David Weintraub - Sacrament Bee Insider >> yesterday) >> >> If you look at Jackson's questions, they even have very different >> answers. Let me parse the list and intersperse comments. There are >> two >> completely different sets of questions here, mixed even in a single >> sentence, and they must be taken independently. To begin with, >> Jackson >> implies that the solution requires action by government. >> >>> Obviously, this crisis requires urgent, intense national action. >> Are >>> we prepared to let the auto industry die? If not: what steps can be >> >>> taken to relieve the burdens of their health care and pension >> costs? >> >> When you look at the financial statement of operating expenses for >> the >> American automakers, the charges for health care and pensions are >> significantly greater than for their Japanese and Korean >> counterparts. >> It has been suggested that the solution for this is government >> financed >> universal health care, relieving corporations of ALL medical costs. >> We >> are not even close to any national consensus on this, though CA may >> be >> leading the way with new proposals from Don Perata and from the CEO >> of >> Kaiser this week. However, this is not an ecological issue, though >> it >> may be a Green Issue >> >>> What should be expected from the automakers in return in terms of >>> investment, jobs guarantees, >> >> Again, we have an economic issue, both for the corporation and its >> shareholders (ROI) and the unions (job guarantees). As a good >> Democrat, >> Jackson always keeps the unions in mind. >> >>> >>> fuel efficiency and alternative-fuel cars? >> >> This is where Jackson mixes two issues in one sentence, though there >> is >> a connection. The move to improved fuel efficiency and >> alternative-fuel >> cars would require ongoing investment. However, in comparison to >> other auto companies, Ford, GM and Chrysler are very heavy on >> concept >> and very slight in delivery. Ford seems to get the issue when it >> comes >> to managing it's physical plant, building or retro-fitting some of >> the >> lowest emission plants that exist, but they don't get it in terms of >> delivering the product, too much afraid that they will cut themselves >> >> off from the NASCAR loving, SUV driving, Global Warming denying, >> perceived mainstream of American auto buyers. >> >>> What penalties or incentives should be provided to the oil industry >> to >>> force proliferation of alternative-fuel pumps in gas stations? >> >> This is an interesting question, but has little to do with the auto >> industry, other than the fact that it eliminates one of the excuses >> that >> the auto industry gives for not doing what they don't want to do, the >> >> old blame shift game we all learn as kids.... :"my brother made me do >> it." >> >>> How does all this fit into a concerted drive for energy >> independence?0 >> >> Again, this is mixing up the issues. The goal of energy independence >> >> seems like a good one. That is the goal that the oil industry toadies >> >> (e.g. Sen. Imhofe (R-OK) always pull out to justify further >> exploitation >> of existing reserves. The real task is to switch the perceptions so >> that this is no longer a primary goal of anyone. If we keep the focus >> on >> global warming and it's requirement for CO2 reduction, energy >> independence may just happen. >> >> Maybe what we need right now is a TV sitcom that does for the >> environmental issues what "All in the Family" (Archie Bunker) did to >> bigotry. >> >> Eco-Action would like to have the GP US come out with a release on >> something related to Global Warming / Carbon taxation / Carbon >> sequestring, etc. It won't happen quickly because I don't think tha >> there is consensus in the committee. One member will push very hard >> for >> a Georgian Economics based solution to >> everything. I also think that the National Steering Committee >> hasn't >> the requisite high level of concern for ecological issues, at least >> in >> comparison with anti-war, social justice issues. That seems to be >> where >> the most energy is being exerted. >> >> Finally, I really don't think that Jesse Jackson has much influence >> in >> this debate anyway. >> >>> Excellent questions Jim. And another place that the laisez faire >> types >>> just have no answer. But we Greens can certainly recommend answers. >>> May I suggest that the GPUS Eco Action Committee would be a good >> place >>> to connect with to elicit a Green Party response? If the committee >>> comes up with a press release we can put it out through the Media >>> Committee (which I serve on). >>> >>> Here are the Eco Action Committee co-chairs: >>> >>> Mike Ewall >>> catalyst at actionpa dot org >>> 215-743-4884 >>> Kristen Olson >>> kristenolson at mngreens dot org >>> >>> Secretary >>> Deanna Taylor >>> deesings at xmission dot com >>> >>> Green solidarity! >> >> >> >> -- >> Wes Rolley >> 17211 Quail Court >> Morgan Hill, CA 95037 >> (408)778-3024 >> >> "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in >> and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore >> >> >> > > > ___________________ > > JamBoi > Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Tue Dec 26 11:08:22 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:08:22 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? In-Reply-To: <20061217031502.24783.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061217031502.24783.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5677BA51-8786-4EAF-915A-C2DB766E3138@cagreens.org> One way to help a work-hours exchange actually function would be to publish a Green Party member skills directory for those who would be interested in participating. It could list the skills of the enlisting new member and include the skills that the person would be interested in exchanging with. I would take part. Andrea PS - would gift cards qualify? discount coupons? (in response to Drew's vouchers) On Dec 16, 2006, at 7:15 PM, JamBoi wrote: > I came up with another few that aren't necessarily local or > necessarily > legal to trade: food stamps, and CaLWORKs food vouchers, WIC vouchers, > gas vouchers, taxi vouchers. > > I'd like to come up with some more local ones. > > Green solidarity! > > Drew > > --- Fred Duperrault wrote: > >> Yes, car wash tokens in Mtn View. >> >> Fred >> >> I really, really like this idea of community currency! I was >> thinking >> about how we could practically put this idea in effect in the short >> run. One form of community currency I thought of that would work for >> at >> least some people are VTA day pass tokens. Can anyone think of >> others >> forms that are available now in Santa Clara County? >> >> Green solidarity! >> >> Drew >> >> --- Tian Harter wrote: >> >>> It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the >>> turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some >>> consulting >>> work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. >>> (Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) >>> Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have >>> taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending >>> experience, >>> but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. >>> >>> Tian >>> >>> Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: >>> >>>> There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, >>> it's >>>> not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall >> the >>> >>>> Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in >>> Ithaca, >>>> N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. >>> town. >>>> >>>> Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ >>>> >>>> It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. >>>> >>>> Larry Cafiero >>>> Liaison to the Secretary of State >>>> Green Party of California >>>> >>>> Tian Harter wrote: >>>> >>>>> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos >>>>> note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many >>>>> of the same challenges in it that spending some other community >>>>> currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a >>>>> Farmers Market. >>>>> >>>>> I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire >>>>> something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to >>>>> ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank >>>>> every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities >>>>> I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws >> of >>>>> physics. >>>>> The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics >>>>> work for me. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button >>>>> for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please >>>>> notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. >>>>> >>>>> JamBoi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet >> as >>> a >>>>>> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol >>> has >>>>>> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. >> Before >>> Carol >>>>>> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into >>> 'Community >>>>>> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: >>>>>> http://www.communitycurrency.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are >>> about: >>>>>> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Green solidarity! >>>>>> >>>>>> Drew >>>>>> --- Andrea Dorey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> FYI, folks! >>>>>>> Andrea >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "John Pozzi" >>>>>>>> Date: December 8, 2006 4:42:18 PM PST >>>>>>>> To: >>>>>>>> Subject: Green Party Values >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Ms. Dorey, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Green Party Values of Ecological Wisdom, Grassroots >>> Democracy, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Social Justice, Nonviolence. Decentralization, >> ,Community-Based >>> >>>>>>>> Economics. Feminism, Respect for Diversity, Global >>> Responsibility >>>>>>>> andSustainability are enacted by the Global Reserve Bank >>> charter at >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> www.grb.net. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Pozzi >>>>>>>> 126 SE 3 Street >>>>>>>> Hallandale Beach Fl 33009 USA >>>>>>>> 954 260 4861 > > ___________________ > > JamBoi > Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Tue Dec 26 11:10:30 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:10:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Green Party Values--at a bank??? In-Reply-To: <458645E6.20001@ispwest.com> References: 20061216212551.72709.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com <458645E6.20001@ispwest.com> Message-ID: I think bartering has the potential to shake up the economy in the same way that local currency would--it's outside the system that tracks and taxes. On Dec 17, 2006, at 11:40 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > On many occasions I've traded one of my stickers for something else. > I don't think that would work for just anybody, and I rarely get > repeat > customers. Still, I like it as a low stakes form of barter. > > JamBoi wrote: > >> I really, really like this idea of community currency! I was >> thinking >> about how we could practically put this idea in effect in the short >> run. One form of community currency I thought of that would work >> for at >> least some people are VTA day pass tokens. Can anyone think of >> others >> forms that are available now in Santa Clara County? >> >> Green solidarity! >> >> Drew >> >> --- Tian Harter wrote: >> >> >> >>> It is interesting. There was a Berkeley hours program around the >>> turn of the millenium. I took about two Berkeley hours for some >>> consulting >>> work in the summer of '99 and had a hard time spending the money. >>> (Mexican money is MUCH easier to spend than that stuff was.) >>> Not only that, but nobody ever offered me any again. I would have >>> taken it, because I'm always up for an interesting spending >>> experience, >>> but they seem to have gone away at this point in time. >>> >>> Tian >>> >>> Larry Cafiero Liaison wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> There's nothing like gravity taking its course, Tian (after all, >>>> >>>> >>> it's >>> >>> >>>> not just a good idea, it's the law . . .), but I seem to recall the >>>> >>>> >>>> Ithaca Hours program, which I believe was formed by a Green in >>>> >>>> >>> Ithaca, >>> >>> >>>> N.Y., in the '90s and seems to be thriving in that upstate N.Y. >>>> >>>> >>> town. >>> >>> >>>> Here's their site: http://www.lightlink.com/hours/ithacahours/ >>>> >>>> It's a very interesting concept, to say the least. >>>> >>>> Larry Cafiero >>>> Liaison to the Secretary of State >>>> Green Party of California >>>> >>>> Tian Harter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> What's a "community currency"? I had a Mexican 20 pesos >>>>> note in my wallet for a couple of weeks. Spending it had many >>>>> of the same challenges in it that spending some other community >>>>> currency had. I ended up getting a dozen eggs from it at a >>>>> Farmers Market. >>>>> >>>>> I've met people that think a greenback working to aquire >>>>> something is proof the world works. I'm not so sure. I like to >>>>> ground my sense of reality by dropping a coin in a piggy bank >>>>> every now and then. One reason is that most of the communities >>>>> I consider myself to be part of have some respect for the laws of >>>>> physics. >>>>> The sound of a coin landing is evidence that the laws of physics >>>>> work for me. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to use A California quarter to push the send button >>>>> for this post, and then drop it in my pink piggy bank. Please >>>>> notice that no laws were broken in the making of this post. >>>>> >>>>> JamBoi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I note that at the bottom of the page it lists Carol Brouillet as >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> a >>> >>> >>>>>> contributer. I'm not very up on it but I understand that Carol >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> has >>> >>> >>>>>> worked for years on the concept of 'Community Currency'. Before >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Carol >>> >>> >>>>>> got involved in exposing the truth of 9/11 she was into >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> 'Community >>> >>> >>>>>> Currencies', hence the name of her web site: >>>>>> http://www.communitycurrency.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a clearer description of what community currencies are >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> about: >>> >>> >>>>>> http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/cc/CC.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > > -- > Tian > Latest change: Added 12 reasons to Impeach Bush. > http://tian.greens.org > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Tue Dec 26 11:31:29 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:31:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] progressives and libertarians ... a match made in heaven? In-Reply-To: <809994.14202.qm@web52209.mail.yahoo.com> References: <809994.14202.qm@web52209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm curious about what name this guy had in mind. What's wrong with "Green?" I would never want to see us accept money from Corporations. Family businesses that are green, no problem. But corporation implies corpus, embodied, and finally personhood as corporations finally were able to claim circa 1900. This is when they began to cause the most damage to living beings and the environment. Incorporation also allows ownership without responsibility, eternal life, adoption of parent companies and offspring, and an ability to conduct any kind of legal business without being limited to the business that they chartered to do. The latter allows a company that makes nuts and bolts to morph into biologicals and/or hospital administration. These internationals now define us not as persons but as consumers with little power to stop their destruction. I think we should avoid corporate contributions. I also think we should try to remove their charters in states where the power still rests with the sovereignty of the people. Andrea On Dec 20, 2006, at 12:07 PM, JamBoi wrote: > I strongly agree that there is plenty 'o room in America's political > marketplace for a progressive party to spring up and have possibly > more > growth potential than we Greens have. We Greens have chosen some > specific strategies that in some ways limit our appeal. > > For one thing we insist on maintaining our own name - Green Party. I > don't know how many times recently Dems have said to me "Do you think > the Greens might be amenable to changing their name so that they'll > appeal more to disaffected Dems?" (To which I answer, 'of course not > silly! We Greens have our own unique identity. We are an > international > movement with deep roots and our own unique political theory and > economic theory. Its not like we are just Dem lite and that > swiching a > name would make any difference or sense. And its not like we are so > tactically oriented that we would put out front organizations like the > Communists and Democrats do - ie MoveOn.org.') > > For another we have chosen the very narrow road of taking no corporate > funding. That is a huge decision that effects every aspect of our > viability as a party in the United Corporations of America (our new > name, UCA instead of USA). We have chosen to unilaterally disarm > ourselves. I fully support this decision while at the same time I > acknowledge that it is a decision that many other liberals and > progressives are not willing to make. > > For another we have this strong emphasis put on decentralization, > grassroots democracy and concensus. That is so counter to the way > other parties work (with the possible exception of the libertarians > and > libertarian socialists) that I realize its a major cultural shift for > people entering our midst. > > So yes, I do believe there's plenty 'o room for a another progressive > party to spring up and possibly even be quite successful in America. > That is definitely not to say that I would ever join such a party. I > have chosen the Green Party for very definite reasons: I strongly > agree > with our 10 Key Values. I don't see any other potential progressive > party taking the idealistic stands that we are. For instance I think > they would likely be okay with corporate money unlike us. So I'd > welcome the competition! Frankly I think it would sharpen us to have > some coopetition going. > > Dems have painted a big target on us, so that its hard for us to gain > Dem converts. Okay fine, that's just a fact of life. For us to grow > we need to teach everyone (Dems included) about our unique qualities > and that we are not merely a progressive party. Many aspects of a > progressive party could be achieved without it being a truly 'Green' > party. We need to differentiate ourselves in people's minds so they > can make an informed choice about where to put their energy into. > > If they don't want to join us explicitly, that's okay with me, but I'd > still like to build coalition with other forward thinking lefties, > liberals, moderates (like me) and even conservatives. That is the > only > way we can really succeed. > > Green solidarity! > > Drew > > --- Fred Duperrault wrote: > >> >> In the Twenties, Thirties and Forties there was a succesfulwisconsin >> Progressive party led by the La Follets. Gaylor Nelson was a >> Progressive until the party broke up. Then he joined the Democratic >> Party. However, most joined the Republican Party. (The Democratic >> Party >> was very weak at that time.) >> >> Republican Leroy Gore, who started the "Joe Must Go" campaign to >> recall >> Sen. Joe McCarthy, had been a Progressive. >> >> I think a Progressive party, with a similar philosophy to the Green >> Party, might have more potential for growth. Democrats would have >> less >> reluctance to join. for one. >> >> What d'y'all think? >> >> Fred >> >> From a list in Vermont that includes Greens and Progressives. >> (NOTE: Vermont has a Progressive Party that is bigger than >> the Vermont Green Party, and has won some state legislature >> seats.) >> >> Gerry >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> >> >> >> I've long believed that liberatarians and progressives >> (small 'l' and 'p', not captalized) had more in common >> with each other than generally realized. I found the >> following to be an interesting adjunct to that concept: >> "Libertarian Party candidates may have cost Senators >> Jim Talent (R.-Mo.) and Conrad Burns (R.-Mont.) their >> seats, tipping the Senate to Democratic control." >> >> http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=14106 >> >> I bring this up to point something else I believe: while >> the liberatarians are willing to flout their muscle and >> get pushier because of the political power implied by the >> above article, I find most progressives get timid under >> similiar circumstances. Time for the agressive progressive >> maybe? >> >> Of course this is all just my opinion, but it's a strong one, >> >> Rama > > ___________________ > > JamBoi > Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > > "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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A Q&A session follows the discussion. 7?9 p.m., $5 Roxy Theatre 3117 16th St., SF ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Wed Dec 27 10:10:15 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:10:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [VFP_101] 3,000th Vigil Message-ID: <909814.3183.qm@web52209.mail.yahoo.com> --- david ledesma wrote: > To: sbm e-mail , vfp 101 > > From: david ledesma > Date: Mon, 25 Dec:23:07 -0800 > Subject: [VFP_101] 3,000th Vigil > > > Greetings Everyone- > As of today, December 25th, 2,972 U.S. Troops and over 650,000 Iraqis > have died in the Invasion and Occupation > of Iraq. As the U.S. death toll approaches 3,000, Peace Vigils are > being planned across the U.S. > > The Vigils will take place the DAY AFTER the 3,000 death is > announced. One of the local Vigils will be held at the > corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd., Santa Clara/San > Jose', 5pm-7pm, sponsored by Gold Star Families > for Peace and South Bay Mobilization. > > You are encouraged to distribute this message widely, announcing to > family, friends, neighbors, and co-workers, so > everyone can be aware in advance that this grim milestone is > approaching. > > You are encouraged to bring a candle to light as we commemorate the > 3,000 death and make the call to Bring Our > Troops Home Now! You can register to attend this event at > http://www.afsc.org/3000. The Zip Code for this location > is 95050. > > Let's make our prescence seen and our voices heard in our community > for Peace. 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URL: From wrolley at charter.net Thu Dec 28 11:57:24 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:57:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 7th Generation Message-ID: <459421A4.8010003@charter.net> I just received a "year end summary" note from Restore the Delta . I am not in a position to write a summary, so maybe the best thing is to write a forward. There is a lot to look forward to in 2007 and a lot of work that needs to be done. One of the "Green" leaders whose work has attracted me over time has been Winona LaDuke. In particular, I believe that the concepts underlying her call of a 7th Generation Ammendment to the Constitution embodies the best of what it means to be Green. I am trying to start a non-formal 7th Generation Committee in Santa Clara County. It might begin in South County, as I have invited local writer, journalist Martin Cheek to join me. Martin made a very large media contribution to the ousting of Richard Pombo and has written this week about Global Warming in a MH Times Column which he concludes as follows: > But in the final analysis, fixing the problem of global warming must > be about more than just the corporate bottom-line. As Gore stressed in > his film, it's an ethical responsibility. It must be about deeply > caring for our children and grandchildren who will be forced to deal > with a catastrophic mess we've made of the environment. > > I asked Dan Kenney [South County Dem. / moveon.or / house party host] > what he'd like to impress upon South Valley residents in regards to > the message Al Gore gives in "An Inconvenient Truth." > > "I would like to quote the author Henrik Tikkanen'" he told me. > "'Because we don't think about future generations, they will never > forget us.'" > > The time for change is now. Those future generations await what > decision we make as we now stand at the crossroads. The purpose of the 7th Generation Committee would be to change people's minds on issues like Climate Change, Integrated Water Resource Management, Growth and land use. The methods used would be based on using local media to gain as much exposure as we can. One of the targets that I have in mind is the Santa Clara County Water Districts, whose 2003 Plan uses the word "sustainable" only in regards to growth. It is all about the ability to meet the demand of that growth. In a similar manner, the Bay Area Integrated Water Management Plan, approved and published only last month in all of its multi-thousand page detail, views "environmental regulation" as a "threat" to water supplies that must be confronted. I do not see that the idea of a 7th Generation Committee would be a partisan political effort. Cheek is very much connected to MoveOn.org. Rather, I see it as a means to bring Green Idea to the forefront of everything we do. If anyone is interested in joining us, please comment here, write me off line, whatever. I will set up some electronic means of communicating and participating. (I know, don't gell me I have to get on yet another email list....) So, maybe that is not the model. But we can decide that later. Right now, I am just trying to find out if there are enough interested in going down this path to make it work. Wes -- Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court Morgan Hill, CA 95037 (408)778-3024 "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 28 18:11:14 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:11:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Mayors of California and the United States, 1991-present; by Mike Feinstein Message-ID: <20061229021114.77270.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com> Green Mayors of California and the United States, 1991-present By Mike Feinstein Gayle McLaughlin?s election as Mayor of Richmond makes here one of three new California Green Mayors in 2007. The other two are Larry Bragman (Fairfax, Marin County) and Sam Pierce (Sebastopol, Sonoma County). But whereas McLaughlin was directly elected by the residents, Bragman and Pierce were appointed from within the city council by their fellow city councilmembers. The difference between these two processes mirrors the two primary ways mayors are chosen in California, and also reflect the two most common forms of municipal government in the state: Council-Manager and Mayor-Council. By modification and overlap these two basic forms provide varied patterns of city government across the state. About three-quarters of California cities have a Council-Manager form of government, where the elected City Council provides political leadership and makes policy, while a full-time professional Manager directs city departments in carrying out that policy. Council-Manager cities usually appoint their Mayors from within the Council, or chose them by rotation, also from within the Council. Of California's 478 cities, 330 appoint their mayors from within the city council, and 148 have directly elected mayors. Among those 148, in most cases the mayor still has equal power as other councilmembers, or is at least limited in the extra powers he/she holds. These are usually called weak-mayor systems. There are also a small number of California cities - mostly the larger ones like Los Angeles, Long Beach, Oakland, San Diego and San Francisco ? that have directly elected 'strong mayors' who serve as the chief executives of their cities. The closest a Green came to winning one of these was Matt Gonzalez?s historic November 2003 run, when he came in a close second with 47.2%. In Richmond, the Mayor is separately elected, but not a 'strong' mayor in the traditional large-city sense. According to the City?s web site, "The Mayor is a member of the City Council and the chief elected officer and ceremonial head of the City. The Mayor is also responsible for: ? Informing City residents of policies and developments ? Working with the City Manager on the annual budget ? Making recommendations to the City Council on policies and programs" The first Green Mayor in California was Raven Earlygrow, who was appointed in Point Arena (Mendocino County) in 1993. Since then, twenty-four California Greens have been appointed Mayors by their colleagues. McLaughlin was the first to be directly elected. Sebastopol has had the years with a Green mayor __Sam Pierce, Sebastopol, California 2006-2007 (appointed) __Larry Robinson, Sebastopol, California 2004-2005 (appointed) __Craig Litwin, Sebastopol, California 2002-2003 (appointed) __Sam Spooner, Sebastopol, California 2001-2002 (appointed) __Larry Robinson, Sebastopol, California 2000-2001 (appointed) Nationally, 34 Greens who served as Mayors, with ten elected and twenty-four (all from California) appointed. Before McLaughlin, of those who were directly elected, all had previously come from very small cities and towns. The only city over 7,000 as Websters Grove, MO (2000 pop. 23,000) where Terry Williams was Mayor between 1994-1997. Nationally, the first Green Mayor was Kelly Weaverling in Cordova, Alaska (1991-1993). Weaverling was directly elected in the aftermath of the Exxon Valdez oil spill, and had been an important activist involved in the post-spill clean-up. For a complete list of California Green Mayors, see www.cagreens.org/elections/greenmayors.php ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Thu Dec 28 18:13:21 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:13:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 2006 was very good year for Green Party of California Message-ID: <479377.91170.qm@web52206.mail.yahoo.com> THE GREEN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA www.cagreens.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Thursday, December 28, 2006 Contact: Susan King, spokesperson, 415.823-5524 funking at mindspring.com Sara Amir, spokesperson, 310.270-7106 saraamir at earthlink.net Cres Vellucci, press secretary, 916.996-9170 civillib at cwnet.com 2006 was very good year for Green Party of California, which cemented its position as alternative political party for dissatisfied voters SACRAMENTO (December 28, 2006) The Green Party of California said today that 2006 cemented its position as the alternative political party for the growing number of dissatisfied voters in the state. The party cited significant electoral gains in 2006 ? punctuated by the upset win by Gayle McLaughlin, who although outspent by about 4-1, defeated the incumbent mayor of Richmond and became the first-ever directly elected Green city mayor in California. Her victory gave the Greens 19 wins during 2006, and they now hold 50 elected offices in the state, from mayor to numerous city council, boards of education and other local offices. Greens, who ran in every state constitutional election and a bevy of candidates for Legislature, Senate and the House, also made strides. In particular Sarah Knopp, a high school teacher who came within a few votes of forcing incumbent Jack O'Connell into a runoff, spent just $3,000, and finished with 17.3 percent of the vote, and nearly 696,000 votes the most ever garnered by a Green candidate in California. Greens running for Congress forced Democrats and Republicans to confront the war in Iraq and troubles at home, garnering vote totals many times the percentage of registered Greens in their district. Barry Hermanson, running in San Francisco's 12th Assembly district, won about 15 percent of the vote, the highest by any Green in the U.S. running against either a GOP or Democratic candidate, but not both. California's Greens also played key roles in initiatives, including electoral reform in Oakland. Voters there approved Measure O to authorize Instant Runoff Voting, which allows voters more freedom to choose among all candidates, regardless of party. Other important notes for the GPCA in 2006 included: More participation in party affairs by prominent civil rights and social justice activists, including 2006 Democratic Party gubernatorial Primary candidate and death penalty opponent Barbara Becnel, who re-registered Green following the June election. The adoption of official party planks by the Green Party General Assembly that would call for amnesty for all immigrants, and allow undocumented immigrants to vote, strong support for unions, increased protections for the elderly, an end agricultural commodity dumping and support for strong measures to clean the state's air. -30- ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jgshurt69 at aol.com Fri Dec 29 12:51:09 2006 From: jgshurt69 at aol.com (jgshurt69 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:51:09 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 3,000th US Fatality Message-ID: <8C8F9A2339D1B0F-450-C35B@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> To mark this tragic, criminal, senseless milestone...visit www.afsc.org/3000/ . See you there? Jeffrey in San Bruno "The Way to do is to Be." Laozi ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamboi at yahoo.com Fri Dec 29 15:00:55 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:00:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 3,000th US Fatality In-Reply-To: <8C8F9A2339D1B0F-450-C35B@WEBMAIL-DC14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <474198.30141.qm@web52214.mail.yahoo.com> Our constitutional defense/impeachment group is having a vigil tonight (and every Friday night) in Mountain View at Castro and El Camino at 5:30-6:30 Green Solidarity! Drew Here's the American Friends Service Committee demonstrations re: 3,000 (officially recognized) casualty in IraquiNam. *I note that our own Roy Nordblum is leading one*. Its supposed to happen the day after the 3,000th casualty is announced (today as I type this its 2996 so I'm thinking it will be either today or tomorrow). Here's the SCC events that have been listed so far at http://www.afsc.org/3000/find_results.php?state=CA&submit=Find+Events . Feel free to add more events there! ------------------------------------ Mountain View, CA Corner of El Camino Real & Castro Street (map to this location) Organizer's Name: Karen Meredith (Gold Star Mom) Registered Attendees: 12 More Details: 6:00 p.m The day after the 3000th US military fatality is announced. Join Mountain View Voices for Peace, Gold Star Families Speak Out and others for a peaceful, candlelight vigil to remember all those who have died or been killed in Iraq. We will read the names of the California military who died. Dress warmly and bring candles and signs with nonviolent messages for peace. -------------------------- San Jose, CA Holy Redeemer Lutheran Church 1948 The Alameda (map to this location) Organizer's Name: John Freesemann Registered Attendees: 4 More Details: On the day following the 3,000th death meet at Holy Redeemer (corner of The Alameda and McKendrie -- one block north of Hedding)at 5:30 and walk to the 880 overpass that is 1/2 block away. We will do a silent candlelight vigil until 6:30. ------------------------------ San Jose, CA Lincoln & Minnesota Lincoln Avenue & Minnesota Avenue (map to this location) Organizer's Name: Roy Nordblom Registered Attendees: 5 More Details: Day after 3,000th American death in Iraq. Evening vigil 7-9pm. Bring signs, candles. ------------------------------ Santa Clara/San Jose, CA Corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd. corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd. (map to this location) Organizer's Name: David Ledesma Registered Attendees: 5 More Details: Sponsored by Gold Star Families for Peace & South Bay Mobilization. Please bring a candle to this Peaceful Vigil which commemorates the the 3,000th death of U.S Troops in Iraq, and over 650,000 Iraqi's. We encourage you to join us at the Vigil to Bring Our Troops Home Now! --- jgshurt69 at aol.com wrote: > To mark this tragic, criminal, senseless milestone...visit > www.afsc.org/3000/ . See > you there? Jeffrey in San Bruno > > "The Way to do is to Be." Laozi > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 29 20:30:57 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:30:57 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] next meeting agenda Message-ID: <4595EB81.30107@sbcglobal.net> I am accepting suggestions for the agenda of our next meeting on Thursday January 4, 2007. Yes, 2007. Jim Doyle From jamboi at yahoo.com Sat Dec 30 17:03:54 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:03:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Monday Likely Rallies (was Re: 3, 000th US Fatality) In-Reply-To: <474198.30141.qm@web52214.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <442885.12759.qm@web52212.mail.yahoo.com> So today's number according to http://icasualties.org/oif/ is 2998, so I'm guessing tommorrow (New Year's Eve) we'll sadly reach 3000 and then Monday will be the day for the vigils. Our coalitional Greens++ progressives group that is working on impeachment (tentatively called ValleyForward) is going to do a vigil New Year's Eve on the Castro Street Mall in Mountain View for impeachment and getting out of Iraq. More details to follow (feel free to e-mail me for more details). Green solidarity! Drew --- JamBoi wrote: > Our constitutional defense/impeachment group is having a vigil > tonight > (and every Friday night) in Mountain View at Castro and El Camino at > 5:30-6:30 > > Green Solidarity! > > Drew > > Here's the American Friends Service Committee demonstrations re: > 3,000 > (officially recognized) casualty in IraquiNam. *I note that our own > Roy > Nordblum is leading one*. Its supposed to happen the day after the > 3,000th casualty is announced (today as I type this its 2996 so I'm > thinking it will be either today or tomorrow). Here's the SCC events > that have been listed so far at > http://www.afsc.org/3000/find_results.php?state=CA&submit=Find+Events > . > Feel free to add more events there! > ------------------------------------ > Mountain View, CA > > Corner of El Camino Real & Castro Street > (map to this location) > Organizer's Name: Karen Meredith (Gold Star Mom) > Registered Attendees: 12 > > More Details: > > 6:00 p.m > > The day after the 3000th US military fatality is announced. > > Join Mountain View Voices for Peace, Gold Star Families Speak Out and > others for a peaceful, candlelight vigil to remember all those who > have > died or been killed in Iraq. > > We will read the names of the California military who died. > > Dress warmly and bring candles and signs with nonviolent messages for > peace. > > -------------------------- > San Jose, CA > > Holy Redeemer Lutheran Church > 1948 The Alameda (map to this location) > Organizer's Name: John Freesemann > Registered Attendees: 4 > > More Details: > > On the day following the 3,000th death meet at Holy Redeemer (corner > of > The Alameda and McKendrie -- one block north of Hedding)at 5:30 and > walk to the 880 overpass that is 1/2 block away. We will do a silent > candlelight vigil until 6:30. > > ------------------------------ > San Jose, CA > > Lincoln & Minnesota > Lincoln Avenue & Minnesota Avenue (map to this location) > Organizer's Name: Roy Nordblom > Registered Attendees: 5 > > More Details: > > Day after 3,000th American death in Iraq. Evening vigil 7-9pm. Bring > signs, candles. > > ------------------------------ > Santa Clara/San Jose, CA > > Corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd. > corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd. (map to this > location) > Organizer's Name: David Ledesma > Registered Attendees: 5 > > More Details: > > Sponsored by Gold Star Families for Peace & South Bay Mobilization. > Please bring a candle to this Peaceful Vigil which commemorates the > the > 3,000th death of U.S Troops in Iraq, and over 650,000 Iraqi's. We > encourage you to join us at the Vigil to Bring Our Troops Home Now! > > > --- jgshurt69 at aol.com wrote: > > > To mark this tragic, criminal, senseless milestone...visit > > www.afsc.org/3000/ . See > > you there? Jeffrey in San Bruno > > > > "The Way to do is to Be." Laozi ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jims at greens.org Sat Dec 30 18:53:27 2006 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 18:53:27 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposal For Tuesday Meeting Message-ID: <45972627.F7014DE5@greens.org> I am asking the GPSCC to sponsor a bylaw amendment proposal. Article 10 of the GPCA bylaws allow a local group to submit such proposals. I've collaborated with Jonathan Lundell and Pat Gray from San Mateo on this. They will be pursuing SM sponsorship also, so this will be a region-sponsored proposal. The proposal should be self-explanatory. But there is a huge back-story behind why this proposal is necessary. I'll fill in those details at the meeting if people really want to hear it. Jim ================================================================= SUBJECT: Modify byalws section 7-1.4 to clarify that regions may replace their Coordinating Committee (CC) representative during the course of a term of office. BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE: In the course of recent debates over CC rep elections a disagreement has arisen in regards to the intent of the clause in section 7-1.4 that says, "CC representatives shall serve for a nominal term of two years or until their successors are elected." Some have interpreted this to mean that any person filling the office of CC rep cannot be removed from that office by his/her electing constituency during the course of the term. The one exception allowed is, "Section 6-3. Removal for Cause," which stipulates a narrow criteria under which a CC rep may be required to resign. Others among us believe that 7-1.4 has no such discernable intent; that there is no practical reason why a prohibition on rep replacement should exist; and that regions should have authority to choose their member(s) on the CC. PROPOSAL: The proposed modification to Section 7-1.4 is based on these assumptions: + As defined in our bylaws, the GPCA is comprised of two entities: the state organization and the county organizations. CC reps and General Assembly delegates are the human organizational interfaces between the two entities. Therefore, issues involving reps and delegates are not the exclusive domain of either entity, but must be resolved considering the needs of both the state and county organizations. + Since the office of CC rep is an interface between a region's counties and the state party, our principle of decentralization would tend to give the counties, rather than the state, preference over issues of filling the CC rep office. + The natural, unplanned personnel turn-over rate on the CC is substantial, so an occasional intended replacement of a rep would not significantly increase that turn-over rate. + There are no corroborating clauses in the bylaws that support an interpretation of 7-1.4 that says CC reps can not be replaced by their electing constituencies. The bylaws are, in fact, silent on the issue. Therefore, a clear statement on a region's right to replace their rep at their discretion needs to be added to the bylaws. Section 7-1.4 shall be modified by adding a second paragraph as follows: Notwithstanding section 6-3, a region may also replace its representative(s) during the course of the term of office by conducting an election in accordance with its approved procedure. The new representative(s) shall serve the remainder of the existing term of office. From jamboi at yahoo.com Sun Dec 31 01:02:49 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 01:02:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposal For Meeting In-Reply-To: <45972627.F7014DE5@greens.org> Message-ID: <20061231090249.18036.qmail@web52204.mail.yahoo.com> Howdy Jim, Thank you for the obvious work you've put in to move this issue forward and to resolve this loophole. It sounds like a good proposal. But didn't you mean Thursday meeting, not Tuesday (ie. our GPSCC meeting is this Thursday)? Please clarify. Green solidarity! Drew --- Jim Stauffer wrote: > I am asking the GPSCC to sponsor a bylaw amendment proposal. Article > 10 of > the GPCA bylaws allow a local group to submit such proposals. I've > collaborated with Jonathan Lundell and Pat Gray from San Mateo on > this. They > will be pursuing SM sponsorship also, so this will be a > region-sponsored > proposal. > > The proposal should be self-explanatory. But there is a huge > back-story > behind why this proposal is necessary. I'll fill in those details at > the > meeting if people really want to hear it. > > Jim > ================================================================= > > > > > SUBJECT: > > Modify byalws section 7-1.4 to clarify that regions may replace their > Coordinating Committee (CC) representative during the course of a > term of > office. > > > BACKGROUND AND PURPOSE: > > In the course of recent debates over CC rep elections a disagreement > has > arisen in regards to the intent of the clause in section 7-1.4 that > says, > "CC representatives shall serve for a nominal term of two years or > until > their successors are elected." > > Some have interpreted this to mean that any person filling the office > of CC > rep cannot be removed from that office by his/her electing > constituency > during the course of the term. The one exception allowed is, "Section > 6-3. > Removal for Cause," which stipulates a narrow criteria under which a > CC rep > may be required to resign. > > Others among us believe that 7-1.4 has no such discernable intent; > that > there is no practical reason why a prohibition on rep replacement > should > exist; and that regions should have authority to choose their > member(s) on > the CC. > > > PROPOSAL: > > The proposed modification to Section 7-1.4 is based on these > assumptions: > > + As defined in our bylaws, the GPCA is comprised of two entities: > the state > organization and the county organizations. CC reps and General > Assembly > delegates are the human organizational interfaces between the two > entities. > Therefore, issues involving reps and delegates are not the exclusive > domain > of either entity, but must be resolved considering the needs of both > the > state and county organizations. > > + Since the office of CC rep is an interface between a region's > counties and > the state party, our principle of decentralization would tend to give > the > counties, rather than the state, preference over issues of filling > the CC > rep office. > > + The natural, unplanned personnel turn-over rate on the CC is > substantial, > so an occasional intended replacement of a rep would not > significantly > increase that turn-over rate. > > + There are no corroborating clauses in the bylaws that support an > interpretation of 7-1.4 that says CC reps can not be replaced by > their > electing constituencies. The bylaws are, in fact, silent on the > issue. > Therefore, a clear statement on a region's right to replace their rep > at > their discretion needs to be added to the bylaws. > > > Section 7-1.4 shall be modified by adding a second paragraph as > follows: > > Notwithstanding section 6-3, a region may also replace its > representative(s) > during the course of the term of office by conducting an election in > accordance with its approved procedure. The new representative(s) > shall > serve the remainder of the existing term of office. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From jamboi at yahoo.com Sun Dec 31 01:12:55 2006 From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 01:12:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] next meeting agenda In-Reply-To: <4595EB81.30107@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <20061231091255.16582.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com> If she is still interested, Mary Lyle Rempel (sp?) was discussing accepting Treasurer position with Cameron. Also after the meeting last time I spoke with her about joining the County Council. So could we put a place in the agenda for asking her if she is interested, and if so we can take January for the County Council to discuss the possibility of adding her. At any rate we need to address the present gender imbalance (3 males - Gerry Gras, Jim Doyle, and myself - and no females). We need to actively recruit some females to our County Council. Green solidarity! Drew --- Jim Doyle wrote: > I am accepting suggestions for the agenda of our next meeting > on Thursday January 4, 2007. Yes, 2007. > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > ___________________ JamBoi Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) http://dailyJam.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From baalavi at yahoo.com Sun Dec 31 05:46:39 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 05:46:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] New Year Eve EVENTS Message-ID: <888777.12950.qm@web52103.mail.yahoo.com> This New Year Eve may have a special designation: In addition to traditional New Year Events, it will provide the people of this world a FIRM REFERENCE to compare (US Armed forces casualties exceeded 3000 on this day) TERRORISTS: OSAMA: 2 cities; two major buildings; 2900+ TOTAL casualties; and BUSH: 2 Countries so far; many cities in rubbles; 300,000++ TOTAL casualties. WHO IS THE WORSE (WORST?) TERRORIST ON YOUR WATCH? Participate in an event near you: http://www.afsc.org/3000/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at ispwest.com Sun Dec 31 13:48:13 2006 From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:48:13 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Monday Likely Rallies (was Re: 3, 000th US Fatality) References: 442885.12759.qm@web52212.mail.yahoo.com Message-ID: <4598301D.4080405@ispwest.com> It's up to 3000 now, so I guess you predicted it right. JamBoi wrote: >So today's number according to http://icasualties.org/oif/ is 2998, so >I'm guessing tommorrow (New Year's Eve) we'll sadly reach 3000 and then >Monday will be the day for the vigils. > >Our coalitional Greens++ progressives group that is working on >impeachment (tentatively called ValleyForward) is going to do a vigil >New Year's Eve on the Castro Street Mall in Mountain View for >impeachment and getting out of Iraq. More details to follow (feel free >to e-mail me for more details). > >Green solidarity! > >Drew > >--- JamBoi wrote: > > > >>Our constitutional defense/impeachment group is having a vigil >>tonight >>(and every Friday night) in Mountain View at Castro and El Camino at >>5:30-6:30 >> >>Green Solidarity! >> >>Drew >> >>Here's the American Friends Service Committee demonstrations re: >>3,000 >>(officially recognized) casualty in IraquiNam. *I note that our own >>Roy >>Nordblum is leading one*. Its supposed to happen the day after the >>3,000th casualty is announced (today as I type this its 2996 so I'm >>thinking it will be either today or tomorrow). Here's the SCC events >>that have been listed so far at >>http://www.afsc.org/3000/find_results.php?state=CA&submit=Find+Events >>. >> Feel free to add more events there! >>------------------------------------ >>Mountain View, CA >> >>Corner of El Camino Real & Castro Street >> (map to this location) >>Organizer's Name: Karen Meredith (Gold Star Mom) >>Registered Attendees: 12 >> >>More Details: >> >>6:00 p.m >> >>The day after the 3000th US military fatality is announced. >> >>Join Mountain View Voices for Peace, Gold Star Families Speak Out and >>others for a peaceful, candlelight vigil to remember all those who >>have >>died or been killed in Iraq. >> >>We will read the names of the California military who died. >> >>Dress warmly and bring candles and signs with nonviolent messages for >>peace. >> >>-------------------------- >>San Jose, CA >> >>Holy Redeemer Lutheran Church >>1948 The Alameda (map to this location) >>Organizer's Name: John Freesemann >>Registered Attendees: 4 >> >>More Details: >> >>On the day following the 3,000th death meet at Holy Redeemer (corner >>of >>The Alameda and McKendrie -- one block north of Hedding)at 5:30 and >>walk to the 880 overpass that is 1/2 block away. We will do a silent >>candlelight vigil until 6:30. >> >>------------------------------ >>San Jose, CA >> >>Lincoln & Minnesota >>Lincoln Avenue & Minnesota Avenue (map to this location) >>Organizer's Name: Roy Nordblom >>Registered Attendees: 5 >> >>More Details: >> >>Day after 3,000th American death in Iraq. Evening vigil 7-9pm. Bring >>signs, candles. >> >>------------------------------ >>Santa Clara/San Jose, CA >> >>Corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd. >>corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd. (map to this >>location) >>Organizer's Name: David Ledesma >>Registered Attendees: 5 >> >>More Details: >> >>Sponsored by Gold Star Families for Peace & South Bay Mobilization. >>Please bring a candle to this Peaceful Vigil which commemorates the >>the >>3,000th death of U.S Troops in Iraq, and over 650,000 Iraqi's. We >>encourage you to join us at the Vigil to Bring Our Troops Home Now! >> >> >>--- jgshurt69 at aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >>>To mark this tragic, criminal, senseless milestone...visit >>>www.afsc.org/3000/ . See >>>you there? Jeffrey in San Bruno >>> >>>"The Way to do is to Be." Laozi >>> >>> > > >___________________ > >JamBoi >Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer > >"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon) >http://dailyJam.blogspot.com > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > -- Tian Latest change: Added Happy New Year! http://tian.greens.org