From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 1 01:08:31 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:08:31 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: Open Space Initiative]] References: <4404FCA5.8090702@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <4405648F.8040704@earthlink.net> Fred, Ernie Goitein on 2/10 informed me by phone that the sponsors of the Open Space Initiative would appreciate it if the GPSCC would endorse the Open Space Initiative. He also sent me an email for information to provide to the GPSCC. I missed his email then, but found it later. I forwarded it to the sosfbay-discuss list on 2/22, and stated that I planned to ask the GPSCC CC to endorse it. Seeing no objections, I started a vote by the GPSCC CC yesterday. So it is possible that the GPSCC CC will endorse the Open Space Initiative before our business meeting. Whether or not the GPSCC CC endorses it, I plan to put the Open Space Initiative on the agenda for Tuesday. I don't know how much time yet. Maybe 15 to 20 minutes. It depends on what else we have. Peter Drekmeier and Ernie Goitein and anyone else interested is welcome to attend. Gerry Fred Duperrault wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Fwd: Open Space Initiative] > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:40:21 -0800 > From: Fred Duperrault > To: sosfbay-discus at cagreens.org > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Open Space Initiative > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:36:00 -0800 > From: Fred Duperrault > To: sosfbay-discus at cagreens.org > > > > A couple of months ago I told Peter Drekmeier that he would be welcome > to speak at a SCC Green Party Meeting. > > If there would be a consensus among the SCC GP County Council to > invite him to use the first half hour of the March 7 meeting to brief us > on the status and strategy of PLAN's SCC Open Space Initiative, I will > contact him immediately. I know he'll be delighted, and free, to speak > to us next Tuesday Night. > (PLAN {People for Land And Nature} has two months left to collect > 52,000 signatures to place the initiative on Santa Clara County's > November ballot. There must be 37,000 valid signatures, so a 15K > cushion will make sure that the effort will net 37K valid ones.) > > Replies ASAP will be much appreciated. > > Fred Duperrault > fredd at freeshell.org > (650) 691-1215 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 1 11:34:20 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:34:20 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Request for Agenda Items] Message-ID: <4405F73C.5060905@earthlink.net> Please submit your agenda items for Tuesday's meeting. I would appreciate it if you would include time estimate(s) and presenter(s). Thanks, Gerry From fredd at freeshell.org Wed Mar 1 13:29:02 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:29:02 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Open Space Initiative]]]] Message-ID: <4406121E.6050104@freeshell.org> Hi Gerry, I'm sorry I didn't see your Feb 22 sosfbay message. I talked with Peter at the "Winter Soldier" event in Palo Alto on Monday night (06/27/06). Because we've (Peter and I) been talking about the possibility of him speaking at a SCCGP meeting for almost a year, I felt it was about time we invited him, especially since the Open Space Initiative petition campaign has been on for two weeks already. He volunteered, Monday, to speak before I even mentioned it. Either the communications between him and Ernie got fowled up, or he definitely wanted to speak. What's next? Fred P.S. Ironically, I will not be able to attend the March 7 meeting because Lois and I will not be in town. We goofed in booking a 03/07 reservation two months ago. We're either going to celebrate our birthdays, do a 2nd (or 3rd or 33rd) honeymoon, or just get out of town. The bright side is: I not being there with my $.02's, might save some meeting time. Fred, As you already know, I sent an email to you in reply to your email about the Open Space Initiative. I forwarded it to Ernie Goitein and he forwarded it to Peter Drekmeier. See below. Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: Open Space Initiative]]] Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:51:28 -0800 (PST) From: Ernest Goitein To: Peter Drekmeier CC: Gerry Gras Peter, Will you attend the Green party meeting? I am trying to cut down on my evening activities. By copy to Gerry, thank you so much for putting the endorsement of the initiative on the e-mail voting system. Ernie ____________ --- Gerry Gras wrote: > Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:39:40 -0800 > From: Gerry Gras > To: Ernest Goitein > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: > Open Space Initiative]]] > > > FYI, > > here is an email I sent to Fred Duperrault (and the > Green Party of Santa Clara County discussion list) > in response to a request from him. > > NOTE: the time estimate I gave here is based on my > experience with past agendas, but it may change > (either way) depending on what other items may came > up. > > I will send you a copy of the agenda when I have it. > > Gerry > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: Open > Space Initiative]] > Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:08:31 -0800 > From: Gerry Gras > To: Fred Duperrault > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > References: <4404FCA5.8090702 at freeshell.org> > > > Fred, > > Ernie Goitein on 2/10 informed me by phone that the > sponsors > of the Open Space Initiative would appreciate it if > the GPSCC > would endorse the Open Space Initiative. He also > sent me an > email for information to provide to the GPSCC. I > missed his > email then, but found it later. > > I forwarded it to the sosfbay-discuss list on 2/22, > and > stated that I planned to ask the GPSCC CC to endorse > it. > Seeing no objections, I started a vote by the GPSCC > CC > yesterday. > > So it is possible that the GPSCC CC will endorse the > Open > Space Initiative before our business meeting. > > Whether or not the GPSCC CC endorses it, I plan to > put the > Open Space Initiative on the agenda for Tuesday. I > don't > know how much time yet. Maybe 15 to 20 minutes. It > depends > on what else we have. > > Peter Drekmeier and Ernie Goitein and anyone else > interested > is welcome to attend. > > Gerry > > > Fred Duperrault wrote: > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [Fwd: Open Space Initiative] > > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:40:21 -0800 > > From: Fred Duperrault > > To: sosfbay-discus at cagreens.org > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Open Space Initiative > > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:36:00 -0800 > > From: Fred Duperrault > > To: sosfbay-discus at cagreens.org > > > > > > > > A couple of months ago I told Peter Drekmeier > that he would be welcome > > to speak at a SCC Green Party Meeting. > > > > If there would be a consensus among the SCC GP > County Council to > > invite him to use the first half hour of the > March 7 meeting to brief us > > on the status and strategy of PLAN's SCC Open > Space Initiative, I will > > contact him immediately. I know he'll be > delighted, and free, to speak > > to us next Tuesday Night. > > (PLAN {People for Land And Nature} has two months > left to collect > > 52,000 signatures to place the initiative on > Santa Clara County's > > November ballot. There must be 37,000 valid > signatures, so a 15K > > cushion will make sure that the effort will net > 37K valid ones.) > > > > Replies ASAP will be much appreciated. > > > > Fred Duperrault > > fredd at freeshell.org > > (650) 691-1215 > > > > From cbrouillet at igc.org Wed Mar 1 20:42:43 2006 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:42:43 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Town Hall Meeting in Mountain View Saturday Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20060301201626.04711180@igc.org> Impeachment, Peace, Justice, Truth, Abolish the Patriot Act- These are critical issues that Congresswoman Anna Eshoo, 14th District, doesn't want to touch and the reason that I am running against her on the Green Party ticket. We can raise the visibility of these issues and the Green Party at the Town Hall Meeting - Saturday, March 4th 9:30 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. Mountain View City Hall 500 Castro Street Council Chambers, 2nd floor Cross-street: Mercy Parking: public lot underneath building on Mercy Street Most people do not realize how bad she is on the most important issues, and unless we raise them- she'll continue to sell out democracy, peace, justice to corporate interests. Carol Brouillet http://www.communitycurrency.org http://www.carolforcongress.org From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Mar 2 00:28:00 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:28:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Town Hall Meeting in Mountain View Saturday References: <7.0.0.16.2.20060301201626.04711180@igc.org> Message-ID: <4406AC90.4090901@earthlink.net> I am not clear about something important here. Is this one of Anna Eshoo's Town Meetings? I usually get snail mail announcements about Anna Eshoo's Town Hall meetings in my neighborhood, but have not seen this. And if it is one of Anna Eshoo's meetings, she does not take verbal comments, she takes written ones and filters them. That's a real problem. Gerry Carol Brouillet wrote: > Impeachment, Peace, Justice, Truth, Abolish the Patriot Act- These > are critical issues that Congresswoman Anna Eshoo, 14th District, > doesn't want to touch and the reason that I am running against her on > the Green Party ticket. > > We can raise the visibility of these issues and the Green Party at the > > Town Hall Meeting - > Saturday, March 4th > 9:30 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. > Mountain View City Hall > 500 Castro Street > Council Chambers, 2nd floor > Cross-street: Mercy > Parking: public lot underneath building on Mercy Street > > Most people do not realize how bad she is on the most important > issues, and unless we raise them- she'll continue to sell out > democracy, peace, justice to corporate interests. > > Carol Brouillet > http://www.communitycurrency.org > http://www.carolforcongress.org > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > From baalavi at yahoo.com Thu Mar 2 07:04:20 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:04:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BioDiesel In-Reply-To: <4406AC90.4090901@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060302150420.49112.qmail@web52108.mail.yahoo.com> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060301/sc_nm/life_biodiesel_dc --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! 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URL: From wrolley at charter.net Thu Mar 2 14:51:25 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:51:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Taliban Message-ID: <440776ED.3050304@charter.net> How many rember the young Taliban spokesperson who seemed to represent them all through the West in those days just before and after 9/11. His name was Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi. After the fighting died, he seemed to have disappeared. Where was he? Pakistan with Mullah Omar? Guantanamo? The surprising thing is that this year, he is a 27 year old Freshman at Yale. The full, long (12 page loads online) NY Times article is at http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/magazine/26taliban.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5087&en=5d3dc452dd9b0e7a&ex=1156741200&nl=ep&emc=ep It is a very interesting read on the problems had getting here, those that he has had adjusting and how he did in PLSC 145, Terrorism: Past, Present and Future, with Prof. Douglas Woodwell. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Mar 2 16:21:59 2006 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:21:59 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] F.Y.I. - New Debate Over Black Separatism Message-ID: <8C80C6F9F2B5D26-1560-26BD@mblk-r11.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, I hate to say "I told you so" but I told you so. After Hurricane Katrina (and the usual weak, namby-pamby response by the usual weak, namby-pamby liberals), I knew there was going to be another wave of black separatism. Sure enough, here is comes. The E-Mail posted below showed up in my in-box this week. All over the Web there has been a lot of talk about the so-called "Black Covenant" (www.covenantwithblackamerica.com) and also this essay "A New Black Power" by, of all people, Walter Mosely, published in, of all places, Nation Magazine. Needless to say, nobody is paying any attention in either the mainstream media or the supposedly "Lefty" White web sites. As usual, the know-it-alls who run these institutions could not care less what goes on among "those people." Nevertheless, this may be a very heavy political development. I am just sending this to you as an F.Y.I. I am resisting the temptation to write another thousand words about what I think about Mosely's 2,699 words (According to my word processor, my cover note is just 452 words, so I successfully resisted the temptation to get carried away). I do wish there was a proper forum to have a serious, no-holds-barred, grown-up discussion about this. I knew this was coming but I do not relish it. In my experience debates on this subject invariably turn on a bunch of clich?s and slogans we've all heard a thousand times before. I am just sending this as an F.Y.I. I could easily write a whole book on this subject. Those of you who have known me the longest can probably guess that, while I sympathize with frustrated progressive African Americans who want to organize something like a separate political party, as a serious student of politics and history, I think doing so right now is a really, really dumb idea. I am fifty-six years old and for me this is like a bad recurring nightmare. We went through this shit in the late 1960s. And then we went through this shit during and after Jesse Jackson's brilliant Rainbow Challenge in the late 1980s. In the 1970s we got Jimmy Carter and the rise of Ronald Reagan. In the 1990s we got William Jefferson Clinton and the rise of George W. Bush. Do you notice a curious pattern here? Each time war, economic uncertainty, and social strife set up a situation where the American Left might actually go out and kick some capitalist imperialist ass. Then, by an amazing "coincidence," the Left found itself cut to pieces by idiotic, irrational, "Identity Politics." As I write this we've finally got Bush and the neoconservatives on the run. (Surprise! Surprise!) Here comes "Identity Politics." = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Posted to the Green Party Black Caucus E-List, March 1, 2006. Subject: RE A New Black Power I suggested forming a Black Party a few months ago and got no responses. If people want to help now, I will finish the platform (essentially the Green Party platform). We need a website, a physical mailing address. I don't have a good domain name registered, but I have one we can use for starters. Regards, Jonathan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ABOUT JONATHAN FARLEY: Dr. Jonathan David Farley, was the 2002 Green Party candidate for U.S. Congress from Tennessee's 5th district. Dr. Farley is a Fulbright Distinguished Scholar at Oxford University and assistant professor of mathematics at Vanderbilt University, Nashville. He graduated summa cum laude with an A.B. in Mathematics from Harvard University in 1991. He received his doctorate in Mathematics from Oxford University in 1995. In 1994 he was awarded Oxford University's Senior Mathematical Prize and Johnson Prize for his research (Oxford's highest mathematics awards). From 1995 to 1997, he was a Post-Doctoral Fellow at the Mathematical Sciences Research Institute in Berkeley, California. Research Interests: Lattice Theory, Theory of Ordered Sets, Discrete Mathematics. See his article "Did the Green Party Betray Black America?" posted on The Black Commentator at www.blackcommentator.com/farley.html. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Published by The Nation, www.thenation.com/doc/20060227/mosley, February 27, 2006 A NEW BLACK POWER by Walter Mosely (2,699 words) Most black Americans have been Democrats for at least the fifty-three years that I've been alive. What have the Democrats done for us in all that time? We have the lowest average income of any large racial group in the nation. We're incarcerated at an alarmingly high rate. We are still segregated and profiled, and have a very low representation at the top echelons of the Democratic Party. We are the stalwarts, the bulwark, the Old Faithful of the Democrats, and yet they have not made our issues a high priority in a very long time. Why should we be second-class members in the most important political activities of our lives? Why shouldn't the party we belong to think that our problems are the most important in this land? I'm not saying that we should become Republicans. The Republicans don't care about us either. But at least they don't pretend to be on our side. And you have to admit that, of late, the Bush Administration has put black faces into high-profile jobs that carry clout on the international playing field. I don't have to like Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice to appreciate that once a black person has been put into a position of power, the second time around is much, much easier. We are a racial minority in a country where racism is a fact of life, a country that was founded on economic and imperialist racism. Taking this into account and adding it to the fact that our issues are regularly put on a back burner, I believe that it is not out of order to send out a call for the formation of an African-American interest group, or maybe a political unit, that would bring our issues, and others, to the forefront of American political discourse. If we had our own political voting bloc that paid attention to issues that reflect our needs in domestic and international affairs, things would change for us. The first thing is that many more of us would be likely to vote. Imagine the interest young people would have if they felt we were organizing based on our own interests: They could work for a candidate who represented their issues; they could run for office themselves. And even though the party would be based on the racial identity that has been shoved down our throats since the first days we came here in chains, we wouldn't work only for ourselves. We'd argue about medical care and Social Security and the good jobs that are disappearing from this nation like fleas off a dead dog's back. America's corporations, CEOs and portfolio managers don't have to worry about the euro and the devaluation of the dollar. They belong to an international club. It doesn't matter where the most recent SUV is being produced; what matters is that my stockholders and I own a piece of the company that makes and sells those cars. It takes many companies working in unison to make secure the wealth of American capitalism. Two of the major-interest corporations that facilitate the needs of our wealthiest citizens are the Republican and Democratic (so-called) political parties. They exonerate their actions with numbers of votes, but the wheels they run on are greased by money, and lots of it. If we took the vote into our own hands, we wouldn't have to ask the Democrats for their support--we could demand it. George W. Bush, or whoever takes his place, will send for our representatives to come to his home to discuss his plans. This is because they have not yet figured out how to dispose of the vote in the American political system. Imagine it. We could actually democratize America by taking power away from the two-party system and handing it over to the people. Other special parties would arise splintering off from the centrist attendants of the rich once we show them the way. What I'm talking about here is the beginning of an American Evolution, a movement that will create a series of political interest groups that will transform our two-party system into a kind of virtual parliament. We could construct smaller political groups based on specific interests. There could be Black Party Congress members from Watts, Harlem, the Motor City and a dozen other inner-city bastions. All we have to do is have a fair representation in the House of Representatives to have an extraordinary impact on the wheels of government. Farmers, women, the aged, angry young white men and, for that matter, true Republicans might create their own small parties/interest groups. These groups would not only have direct representation in the House of Representatives but would also begin to make deals with those people running for senator and President, police chief and mayor. It's past the time when we black Americans can complain about how we are treated without ourselves trying to take the reins of power. A Black Voting Bloc would be a bold move. Some might say a radical move--too radical. But a country that incarcerates people of color at an eight-to-one ratio to whites played the race card way before Johnnie Cochran. If we could come together and see a way to put balance back in the American political landscape, then we should do it. Why? Because if we do not lead we will be led. And if those who have learned to despise, distrust and diminish us are the leaders, then our path will lead even farther away from our homes. We will wake up like strangers in our own beds. We, and our children, will be walking in uncomfortable shoes to poor jobs. We will be jeered on every corner, and every mirror we come across will distort our image. Just so that it doesn't seem that I'm giving short shrift to this argument, let me try to explain why this kind of "political party" will be different from its interest-corporation counterparts. First, this kind of group will be a political unit more than a party. This unit should be patterned after interest groups that form around specific necessities of our particular community. As I've mentioned before, I would like to see many of these units evolve, but for the moment let me address the Black Voting Bloc. What we need for this group is a short list of demands that define our political aspirations at any given point. These demands might change over time, but at any given moment we should have no more than eight expectations of the candidates or legislation we vote for. I am not positioning myself as the leader or even as a central designer of this group, but let me put forward a list of possible demands that our unit might embrace: (1) A commitment to revamping the legal system and the penal system to make sure that citizens of color are getting proper treatment and that all inmates are given the utmost chance to rehabilitate and re-establish themselves in society. (This rehabilitation will include suffrage for all ex-convicts who have served their sentences.) (2) An expectation that there be equal distribution of all public wealth and services among the citizens, no matter their income, race or history. (3) A demand that a true accounting for the impact of slavery be compiled by all government bodies in authority over records that give this information. (4) A universal healthcare system. (5) A retirement system that will assure older Americans the ability to spend their later years in relative comfort and security. (6) A commitment to assemble a general history of our nation in both its glory and its shame. (7) (8) I left 7 and 8 blank because I think you should fill these out. This is, after all, a communal effort meant to bring our intelligences together. And if you don't feel that you're an affiliate of the Black Voting Bloc, write your own demands and see what kind of group you might attract. I believe that any group concerned with the rights of Americans will have at least half of these demands in common. One last comment on the idealistic part of this notion: All black people don't have to join right off. If we can put together just 10 percent of the voting black population, we will be wielding a great deal of power. Others will join us if our political strategy works. In time we might tip the scales against the rich and the ultra-rich. If we do that we might very well make this a better world. I know many of you will say that we don't have the time to allow the United States to evolve politically. Like many Americans, you believe that our nation faces urgent problems that must be solved by the next election; and the elections after that. My answer is, That is just what they want you to think. Our so-called political parties want you to believe that only they can save you when, really, they have no intention of doing so. The Democrats, the Republicans--they're in business for themselves in this vast religion of capitalism. They will never solve Americans' problems, not fully. We have to strive against the system, change it, make it reflect our inexpert visions of right and good. As long as you vote Democratic, as long as you vote Republican, you will be assuring that true democracy has no chance to exist. As long as we believe in the fearmongers' light show, the world will suffer under our misguided convictions. There's no question that a Black Voting Bloc would be a fine context for us and for people of the black diaspora around the world. It would be a forum that would express perceptions from the underbelly of the American experience. That experience, I believe, would find resonance on an international scale and help to bring our maverick nation into concert with certain other countries that would like to get along with us. But how do we get our people to feel strongly about political unity? What in our experience will bring us together? Should we turn to a charismatic leader to guide us safely through the minefield of fanaticism? I've been told so many times that the problem in this world is that so-and-so died too young. A couple of years ago I heard another public figure say that it was because Robert Kennedy died that American liberalism lost its way. What might Martin Luther King Jr. or Malcolm X have achieved if assassins' bullets had not cut them down in their prime? If only we had leaders now like we did back then, so many lament. It's hard for me to write these words without a hint of sarcasm. Nostalgia belongs in the retirement home. Any organization, movement or people who rely solely (or even greatly) on a charismatic leader for their strength and their motivation are in the most precarious position possible. "Cut off the head and the body will fall," their enemies murmur. This is a way to let those enemies dissolve your context. Just put all your belief in one leader, and sooner or later you will be lost. Some might say that I should end this section with those words. This may be true, but I think they open the door to other considerations. We do need leadership. We have to have people who will make decisions and blaze trails; people who will stand up to warmongers and moneylenders; people who might create context, illuminate the darkness with an electronic billboard; people who could organize our vote. I could spend a lot of time and space here criticizing our current leaders. But what would be the purpose? These leaders, no matter how much they have lost their way, are not our enemies. If I follow a man or woman who is leading me astray, then I have to accept my own culpability and blindness. "Didn't you see the millions dying in Africa while your leaders argued about the references and jokes in the movie Barbershop?" someone in a later year may ask. And how will we answer? If we don't lie we might say, "I knew what was happening, but I didn't know how to act. I felt powerless and helpless and so I did nothing." The truth hurts. We all know that. But if we can see that we need leadership and that we don't have the leadership we need, then we might begin to question why. I believe a vacuum in our leadership has been caused by a natural conservatism in the black community that echoes the smug confidence of America in general. This conservatism harbors a deep dread of our young people. This problem has to be approached by using a two-tiered process. First, we (the elders) have to realize how we exclude young people from taking leadership roles in our community. Why do we celebrate the blues but denigrate hip-hop? Why don't we distinguish between the major thinkers among our youth and the thugs? What are the young people telling us when they talk about bitches and ho's, motherfuckers and niggahs and bling? These are questions we shouldn't gloss over. We bear the responsibility for the lost generations of our people. Even if we see their actions as self-defeating and self-hating, we have to take responsibility for having allowed this situation to occur. On the other hand, why do we get so upset when young men and women of African descent also want to identify with their other racial sides? Are we afraid that they're trying to abandon us? Do we want to hold them back so that they don't have a broader and more sophisticated view of their identities? Don't we know that this is their world and it is our job to support them while they gain a solid footing? These are only the first few questions we should ask, and answer. And as we respond we should edit out all cynicism and derogatory notions from our voices and words. These young people are our only hope. We have to liberate them where we can, decriminalize them when necessary, detoxify them if possible--but most important we have to hear what they're telling us and make way for their leadership. And to the youth I say, You have to take the reins. You have to realize that many members of the older generation have gotten what they wanted out of the Struggle. They aren't worried about the problems of America's urban youth; at least not enough to, once again, charge the ramparts and put what they have on the line. Revolutions (both violent and nonviolent) are manned by the young. Older people have retirement accounts and diseases to support, weak constitutions and a justified fear of imprisonment. We have fallen to the rear of the column. You, the urban youth of America, must lead us. If you, the youth, do not forgive us for fumbling, our race will be very far behind in the twenty-first century. And if we lose, the world suffers because most of America is on the wrong road already. America has carried the notion of property and power to such an intensely negative degree that we have very little room left for humanity and art in our hearts. We work long hours, eat bad food, close our eyes to the atrocities committed in our name and spend almost everything we make on the drugs that keep us from succumbing to the emptiness of our spiritual lives. We gobble down antidepressants, sleeping pills, martinis, sitcoms and pornography in a desperate attempt to keep balance in this soulless limbo. In a world where poetry is a contest at best and a competition at worst, where the importance of a painting is gauged by the price it can be sold for--we are to be counted among the lost. And so when I say that we need leaders and that those leaders must come from our youth, it is no idle statement. We need our young people because without their dreams to guide us we will have only cable TV and grain alcohol for succor. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ABOUT WALTER MOSLEY Walter Mosley is the author of the bestselling Easy Rawlins series of mysteries, the novel R.L.'s Dream, and the story collection Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned, for which he received the Anisfield-Wolf Book Award and, most recently, Life Out of Context, published by Nation Books. He was born in Los Angeles and has been at various times in his life a potter, a computer programmer and a poet. 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However, the good old boys, including Democrats, gradually caved in. As usual, the have-nots had to pay, while the haves had their way, because the public had its head in the hay. Actually, I think the majority (a 60% or 80%, whatever) of people don't know they're being taken to the cleaners. The regressive sales tax may not be as much of a critical issue as poverty wages is, but shouldn't we, the _/go get-um Greens/_ try to resurrect a stronger opposition to it? I'll take my answer off the air. Fred D. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Mar 2 10:07:16 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:07:16 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Possible Planning Meeting Dates? Message-ID: <44073454.8030004@earthlink.net> Hi, I am working on a place and time for a planning meeting. Jim Doyle has pointed out that March is a busy month, with at least these dates not ok: 7th, 18th, 19th, 25th. Please let me know of other days that don't work. Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Mar 3 00:38:54 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:38:54 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Palo Alto Weekly on the Open Space Initiative Message-ID: <4408009E.4010401@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Palo Alto Weekly March 1, 2006 Environmentalists aim to put land conservation on ballot Councilman Drekmeier heads campaign to limit development in county's rural areas by Lauren McSherry Around Palo Alto Peter Drekmeier is known as a City Councilman with a strong environmental agenda. Now, he's taking on an ambitious countywide project to protect unincorporated lands from development. "There's a lot of pressure to sprawl out and develop those areas, especially with housing," he said. "This is a way to draw the line." Drekmeier is spearheading a campaign for a ballot measure that would steer development away from the county's rural pockets, particularly hillsides, ranches and farms. The restrictions proposed under the Santa Clara County Land Conservation Initiative would limit subdivisions and increase minimum parcel sizes in unincorporated areas. The initiative also contains more stringent protections for scenic views, watersheds and wildlife corridors, he said. Drekmeier was quick to point out the initiative, which he has been working on for the past year, in no way encourages or restricts development in cities. Nonetheless, it appears to be a response to development trends in the area. "Santa Clara County has undergone very rapid urbanization over the last several decades," he said. "If we are going to grow, we should grow up, rather than out." The initiative encompasses 400,000 acres from Palo Alto south to Gilroy and east to the hills surrounding Mt. Hamilton. That area is equivalent to half the state of Rhode Island. It's also four times the amount of land preserved by the Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District and the Peninsula Open Space Trust, combined. In early February local environmentalists launched the campaign to put the initiative on the November ballot by starting to collect the 36,000 signatures needed by the beginning of May. If successful, the measure will go on the November ballot and need majority approval from voters to go into effect. Campaigners are also hoping to raise $1 million, which will be used for an intensive countywide education drive. In addition Drekmeier is preparing for media campaigns from opponents. "We expect opposition from developers, land speculators and some ranchers who aren't focused on ranching but want to eventually sell their land," he said. His optimism is buoyed by preliminary polls, which show 70 percent of voters would support the initiative. Santa Clara County is currently the "gap" between San Mateo County ? which passed similar legislation, called Measure A, in 1986 ? and Alameda County, which followed with Measure D in 2000, Drekmeier said. Environmentalists in Alameda County faced a significant opposition movement that spent $3.5 million dollars to their $1.7 million, Drekmeier said. "These initiatives are expensive, but given that the environmentalists were outspent two-to-one, they were victorious," he said. He predicts opposition will ramp up its efforts after Labor Day in the months leading up to the November election. Although Drekmeier has been working on the initiative for a year, local environmental groups ? including the local chapter of the Sierra Club and the Committee for Green Foothills ? have spent about three years drafting the legislation. Drekmeier was brought in through the group People for Land and Nature to lead the campaign. He does not expect the level of opposition faced in Alameda County because the last few years have been spent gathering input on the initiative and finding compromises. For example, restrictions on medium-scale agriculture have been eliminated from the initiative, with attention focused mainly on large-scale agriculture. "It won't do everything we originally envisioned, but we do feel it is a huge step forward," he said. Former state Sen. Byron Sher, who pioneered California legislation on environmental issues from clean water to landfills, added his support to the ballot initiative last month. The late Lois Crozier Hogle, a pioneer of the local environmental movement who died last December, was another supporter of the initiative, Drekmeier said. Santa Clara County Supervisor Liz Kniss and all the individual members Palo Alto City Council have also endorsed it. Land-use issues in the East Bay prompted work on the initiative. Highly visible housing developments have been slowly creeping up the foothills in east San Jose, and Congressman Richard Pombo recently proposed building a highway linking the Central Valley to Silicon Valley by way of Mt. Hamilton. If Pombo's proposal is approved, it will open up more land to development, Drekmeier said. "There's going to be a lot of pressure from the east side and the west side to develop the area," he said. Working on big-picture issues is nothing new for the Palo Alto councilman. He was a key organizer behind the international celebration of Earth Day in 1990 and has worked on statewide park and water bonds. In 1999 he formed the Stanford Open Space Alliance and succeeded in reaching a landmark agreement with the university preventing development in the foothills for 25 years. Drekmeier concedes that of all the environmental campaigns he has led, "this is one of the more ambitious projects." He also wants it known that he working on the initiative not as a council member, but as an environmentalist. Most of the land targeted in initiative may not in the immediate area near Palo Alto, but the initiative does have local implications, Drekmeier said. "Even from Palo Alto, we look up and see the Mt. Hamilton range. We look up and see the flank of the Santa Cruz mountains. It's really the backdrop of our community," he said. Staff Writer Lauren McSherry can be reached at lmcsherry at paweekly.com. From tnharter at greens.org Fri Mar 3 00:46:05 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:46:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Check out my new sticker art! Message-ID: <4408024D.9090500@greens.org> http://tian.greens.org I would really love to get some feedback on it... Do you like it? How could I make it better? -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest Addition: pictures from a STOP ILLEGAL WIRETAPPING! event. Today I found out my dentist has never heard of Will Rogers. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Mar 3 01:36:44 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:36:44 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Taliban References: <440776ED.3050304@charter.net> Message-ID: <44080E2C.2090909@earthlink.net> That is quite a story! Thanks, Gerry Wes Rolley wrote: > How many rember the young Taliban spokesperson who seemed to represent > them all through the West in those days just before and after 9/11. His > name was Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi. After the fighting died, he seemed > to have disappeared. Where was he? Pakistan with Mullah Omar? > Guantanamo? The surprising thing is that this year, he is a 27 year old > Freshman at Yale. > > The full, long (12 page loads online) NY Times article is at > http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/magazine/26taliban.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5087&en=5d3dc452dd9b0e7a&ex=1156741200&nl=ep&emc=ep > > It is a very interesting read on the problems had getting here, those > that he has had adjusting and how he did in PLSC 145, Terrorism: Past, > Present and Future, with Prof. Douglas Woodwell. > > Wes > > From alexcathy at aol.com Fri Mar 3 06:38:32 2006 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Taliban In-Reply-To: <44080E2C.2090909@earthlink.net> References: <440776ED.3050304@charter.net> <44080E2C.2090909@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8C80CE747DE9DD0-A90-3E6A@FWM-R06.sysops.aol.com> I saw that article. Here is another way to recall who this kid was. In Michael Moore's documentary "Farenheit 911" there is a scene in which a Taliban spokesman his conducting a press conference and a woman protests the treatment of women in Afghanistan. The Taliban spokesman replies with a sarcastic remark about how "Your husband may have a lot of trouble with you." That was this kid. From baalavi at yahoo.com Fri Mar 3 11:55:29 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:55:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Taliban In-Reply-To: <440776ED.3050304@charter.net> Message-ID: <20060303195529.8941.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you for posting. I noticed the number "Billion of dollars of covert American Aid". All I can say is some pockets were being lined with grease quite handsomely. (referring to figure "billions" -- Plural -- for Afghan Mujahedeen in 1980's in Afghanistan sounds very exaggerated ) Rice just reccently suggested "$65M" to implement their designs on Iran; which at least in numbers and means is a much bigger bite than Afghan Mujahedeen. I know I may be comparing apples and oranges ... but "billions of dollars ???" (Hint: 15 times the requested budget for Iran is only $1B) Then factor in the "$130 per month for a job in 1996 -- which is very high paying in today's Afghanistan" ... plus Bin Laden doing the job with $3 million in 1998 ... then put everything in a proper perspective for the 80's. Then you probably share my skepticism about the whole article or the point of it. ba Wes Rolley wrote: How many rember the young Taliban spokesperson who seemed to represent them all through the West in those days just before and after 9/11. His name was Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi. After the fighting died, he seemed to have disappeared. Where was he? Pakistan with Mullah Omar? Guantanamo? The surprising thing is that this year, he is a 27 year old Freshman at Yale. The full, long (12 page loads online) NY Times article is at http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/26/magazine/26taliban.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5087&en=5d3dc452dd9b0e7a&ex=1156741200&nl=ep&emc=ep It is a very interesting read on the problems had getting here, those that he has had adjusting and how he did in PLSC 145, Terrorism: Past, Present and Future, with Prof. Douglas Woodwell. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From workoutwellforall at gmail.com Fri Mar 3 12:17:36 2006 From: workoutwellforall at gmail.com (Christian Pecaut) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:17:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Taliban In-Reply-To: <20060303195529.8941.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com> References: <440776ED.3050304@charter.net> <20060303195529.8941.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <58f8ab140603031217g6ba87f9fy9fa6417d76fdef12@mail.gmail.com> Typical New York Times Dissociation and Deception.. Rule #1 in New York Times Articles: Cover-Up 9/11 a) Focus on all the cutesy low-level aspects of a Muslim in America, DISSOCIATING overall Islamic perspective on US imperialism b) Repeat and legitimate staged media events -- blowing up of the Buddhas c) Smear Clinton as a terrorist, DISSOCIATING, that the New York Times was the LEAD propogandist for the Bush created 9/11 tragedy d) DISSOCIATE that a large section of our reactionary 'leaders' come from the disinforming halls of Yale e) Smear the Soviet Union as filled with mass murderers, DISSOCIATING current, daily mass killings of New York Time's darling Bush administation The whole New York Slime perspective is nauseating -- a mixture of elitism, willful triviality, and high-level deliberate deception. Christian Pecaut www.carolforcongress.org From Mjsmith55 at aol.com Sat Mar 4 12:00:42 2006 From: Mjsmith55 at aol.com (Mjsmith55 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:00:42 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] ANNOUNCEMENT - UPDATE: Green Talk on the future of Bay Meadows Message-ID: <294.68e084c.313b4bea@aol.com> Welcome to gpsmc-news, the occasional online newsletter of the Green Party of San Mateo County. You'll find subscription (and unsubscription) instructions at the end of this message. You'll find all this information, as well as directions and links to maps, at our online calendar: <_http://cagreens.org/sanmateo/calendar.html_ (http://cagreens.org/sanmateo/calendar.html) >. Most calendar items have contact persons noted, but you can always inquire at _gpsmc at cagreens.org_ (mailto:gpsmc at cagreens.org) or 650-366-6603 for more information on anything concerning GPSMC. ========================================= Green Talk with the Green Party of San Mateo County Panel discussion on the future of Bay Meadows in San Mateo with representatives of the Housing Leadership Council, Save Bay Meadows Organization, and the Peninsula Bicycle & Pedestrian Coalition. When: Wednesday March 8 at 7-9pm. Preceded by free refreshments 6-7pm. Where: Green Party Office, 212A Miller St, South San Francisco, 94080 Cost: free. Public is invited Contacts: For more info contact the GPSMC Email: _gpsmc at cagreens.org_ (mailto:gpsmc at cagreens.org) Phone: 650-366-6603 Website: greens.org/cal/sanmateo/calendar.html Event coordinator: Mitch Smith Email: _mjsmith55 at aol.com_ (mailto:mjsmith55 at aol.com) Downloadable flyer at _http://www.greens.org/cal/sanmateo/files/GT20060308.pdf_ (http://www.greens.org/cal/sanmateo/files/GT20060308.pdf) . Please distribute widely. PROGRAM: There will be a series of three speakers, each with a different perspective of the Bay Meadows Project - Phase II, as it is called. Each speaker will be given up to 20 minutes. (They can use less time if they wish.) >From 8:00 to 9:00 PM there will be Questions and Answers/discussion. The purpose is to inform and learn. This is NOT a debate. Don Havis will be moderator. The three confirmed speakers are: (1) Moira Birss of the Housing Leadership Council. This organization has endorsed the Bay meadows, Phase II plan (2) Donna Bischoff, President of the Save Bay Meadows Organization. (3) Steve Vanderlip, President of the Peninsula Bicycle & Pedestrian Coalition. *****This event is wheelchair accessible***** Every month, the Green Party of San Mateo County hosts lectures on topics important to residents of our region. Speakers may be local residents discussing their area of expertise or nationally-recognized activists Whether the subject is taxes, health care, public transportation or airport expansion, you will find something at the Green Talks that impacts you and your neighbors. Everyone is welcome! ========================================= -- Mailing List Information We try to keep the traffic on this list to a minimum, but if you'd rather not get any messages, follow the link at the end of this message and unsubscribe. 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Andrea Begin forwarded message: > An American Peace Activist in Vietnam > Slide show and discussion by Diane Rejman > Member of Veterans for Peace Chapter 101, South Bay/Peninsula > ? > http://www.multifaithpeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20060201103936549 > ? > In February 2006 I joined Global Exchange on a trip to Vietnam (yup - > am just getting over my jet lag!).? Please join me for a slide show > and discussion of this trip: > ? > Sunday, March 12, 7:00 pm > First Presbytarian Church Fellowship Hall > 1140 Cowper St. > Palo Alto, CA? 94304 > ? > We started the trip in Hanoi, spent a day in Ha Long Bay (on the Gulf > of Tonkin), train to Hue, Danang, China Beach, and Hoi An, and then a > flight to Ho Chi Minh City.? In addition to the tourist spots, we went > to the Friendship Village (helping Agent Orange Victims), and we met > with many individuals and groups, including representatives of the > government, the American Friends Service Committee, and a NGO project > dealing with unexploded ordnance left behind from the war.? We had one > media event when a member of our group, Susan Schnall, was awarded the > Vietnamese Medal for Peace and Friendship Among Nations. > ? > Please join me and let me share this wonderful experience with you. > ? > Diane Rejman > ? > ? Andrea Dorey 408-306-1900 (cell phone, short messages please) Chinese Proverb: "If you do not climb the mountain, you will not see the plain." -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Old Business Planning Meeting (5) Gerry County Council Election (Petitions) (3) Jim Doyle Change Meeting date from 1st Tuesday to ? (5) Warner 4. New Business Open Space Initiative (20) Gerry / Peter Drekmeier 3/18 Peace events (13) Jim Doyle Tabling at Palo Alto peace event Joining peace march in San Francisco / peace train 3/25 Peace March (10) Jim Doyle Tabling in San Jose Joining peace march in San Jose Buttons (3) Jim Doyle Berryessa Art and Wine Festivals (5) Jim Doyle San Jose State Earth Day (5) Jim Doyle Treasurer Replacement (5) Gerry Regional Rep Election (10) Gerry Impeachment Resolution (10) Gerry Dennis Kyne hosts Katrina benefit (5?) (Total scheduled time: 2 hours, 4 minutes) -- Future Events -- Next GPSCC meeting Tuesday, April 4, 2006 ? (Unless some date change proposal passes) -- Disclaimer -- The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only. The actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e reached during the meeting because of time limits. Persons receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or the agenda sequence. Please share this information with individuals who do not have email. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Mar 4 22:22:37 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 22:22:37 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTION PROPOSAL Message-ID: <440A83AD.8000809@earthlink.net> One of the items I put on the agenda for Tuesday's meeting was "Impeachment Resolution". It seems to me to be a good time to do this considering recent news. I was going to write my own, but then I stumbled across the email below. I think that Nevada County's resolution is MUCH better than anything I would have written. So now my proposal is this: - We pass our own resolution which is the same as the Navada County resolution, but with "Nevada County" replaced with "Santa Clara County". - We send it by snail mail to all our House Reps: Anna Eshoo, Mike Honda, Zoe Lofgrenn, and Richard Pombo. (Have I forgotten anyone?) - We "cc" it to our Senators, i.e. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer. Is there anything else we should do? Should we also send it to the other members of the House Judiciary Committee? (Zoe Lofgren is on the committee.) http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx Any points added or removed? Or anything else? Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GPCA Updates] IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTION Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:45:48 -0800 From: Jim Stauffer Reply-To: updates-owner at marla.cagreens.org To: updates at cagreens.org ** Green Party of California Update ** Our Nevada County chapter has been working on a resolution for the impeachment of President Bush and his gang! Please read this and discuss it in your county. =========================================== The Nevada County Green Party recently adopted our Impeachment Resolution. We spent a month researching, debating, writing and revising. We think it is powerful and compelling statement. It's also available for download at our Nevada Co. website: http://www.nevadacountygreens.org. We hope to inspire other locals to join us in officially calling for the Impeachment of Bush & Cheney etc. They can use our draft as a model or write their own. We also hope to put it before the next Plenary and have it adopted as official policy of the GP of California. Hasta el fuego. Kent Smith A RESOLUTION OF THE GREEN PARTY OF NEVADA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA in defense of the Constitution of the United States demanding the impeachment of George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney and two complicit associates. Whereas the Declaration of Independence declares securing ?unalienable Rights? including ?Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness? to be the purpose of government and Whereas the Constitution of the United States establishes the firm foundation for our rule of law and its Bill of Rights provides for the precious individual rights and freedoms guaranteed to all American citizens, Whereas, in the conduct of their offices, President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, in violation of their constitutional oaths to ?preserve, protect and defend the Constitution? and to ?take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,? have committed any or all of the following ?high Crimes and Misdemeanors:? 1. WARRANTLESS SEARCHES: ordering the National Security Agency to conduct secret warrantless searches and seizures of the private personal communications of American citizens, without oversight by the legislative or judicial branches of the government, in violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of the Congress (FISA 1978); 2. TORTURE: authorizing and permitting torture against human beings, in violation of the Geneva Conventions (1864-1949) and the United Nations? Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (1985); 3. INDEFINITE DETENTION: depriving American citizens of their constitutionally guaranteed rights regarding unjust imprisonment and speedy and public trial, in violation of their rights to guaranteed liberty and due process of law in the 5th and 6th Amendments; 4. WAR OF AGGRESSION: launching an illegal, unjust and undeclared war against the sovereign state of Iraq, in violation of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution and Chapters 1, 6, and 7 of the Charter of the United Nations (1945); 5. USE OF ILLEGAL WEAPONS: authorizing the use of illegal chemical and radioactive weapons in military campaigns, notably white phosphorous and depleted uranium in Iraq, in violation of the United Nations? Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR 1948); 6. DELIBERATE DECEPTIONS: repeatedly, consciously, and with forethought, lying to the American people and the U.S. Congress by providing false and deceptive rationales for an unjustified and illegal war in Iraq; 7. ATTACKING CIVILIANS: authorizing, ordering, and condoning direct military attacks on civilians and civilian homes and communities, thereby causing massive death, maiming and destruction in Iraq, in violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; and 8. VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL TREATIES: violating and unilaterally abrogating lawful signatory treaties, such as the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (1972) between the United States and Russia, the Treaty of Rome (1950) establishing the International Criminal Court and the Geneva Conventions providing for humane treatment of combatants and civilians, in violation of Article VI of the Constitution acknowledging these treaties to be ?the Supreme Law of the Land.? Therefore, the Green Party of Nevada County demands the impeachment and consequent removal from office of the four aforementioned officials. Be it further resolved that the Green Party of Nevada County petitions the House of Representatives of the U.S. Congress to initiate Impeachment proceedings against all four identified officials. Be it further resolved that copies of this Resolution be sent to our Congressional representatives and to all members of the House Judiciary Committee. (Adopted by consensus at the Monthly Meeting on February 9, 2006 in Nevada City, California) _______________________________________________ Green Party of California Updates mailing list Subscribe: http://www.cagreens.org Unsubscribe: http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/updates From cbrouillet at igc.org Sat Mar 4 23:26:21 2006 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:26:21 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTION PROPOSAL In-Reply-To: <440A83AD.8000809@earthlink.net> References: <440A83AD.8000809@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20060304231632.04621e00@igc.org> > > http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx >Any points added or removed? I would just add another point- or add on to 6. DELIBERATE DECEPTIONS: repeatedly, consciously, and with forethought, lying to the American people and the U.S. Congress by providing false and deceptive rationales for an unjustified and illegal war in Iraq, obstructing justice by destroying evidence, and covering up the truth about the 9-11 attacks. Carol Brouillet By the Way, Eshoo was very resistant to the Impeachment idea at the Town hall meeting today- another reason why I am running against her. She was very polite to me last December, but very irate today- I suspect because I am running. I wrote a 1600 word article about today, if anyone is interested in it. I don't know what to do with it- it's called- Taboo Topics. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baalavi at yahoo.com Sun Mar 5 05:29:19 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 05:29:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] IMPEACHMENT RESOLUTION PROPOSAL In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060304231632.04621e00@igc.org> Message-ID: <20060305132919.12274.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com> How about the "I accept full responsibility nonsense"? By now his numbers have to be at least 100 fold bigger than Bin Laden. Where's the Article? "Taboo Topics" (Have you watched the 1 Hour 20 min video of 911 Truth?) It is an eye opener. ba Carol Brouillet wrote: http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx Any points added or removed? I would just add another point- or add on to 6. DELIBERATE DECEPTIONS: repeatedly, consciously, and with forethought, lying to the American people and the U.S. Congress by providing false and deceptive rationales for an unjustified and illegal war in Iraq, obstructing justice by destroying evidence, and covering up the truth about the 9-11 attacks. Carol Brouillet By the Way, Eshoo was very resistant to the Impeachment idea at the Town hall meeting today- another reason why I am running against her. She was very polite to me last December, but very irate today- I suspect because I am running. I wrote a 1600 word article about today, if anyone is interested in it. I don't know what to do with it- it's called- Taboo Topics. _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sun Mar 5 08:31:19 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:31:19 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] HopeDance Message-ID: <440B1257.8030101@charter.net> I am always pursuing the goal of convincing Greens that Tip O'Neil was rithg: "All politics is local." If you can not make your political message resonate as it affects people locally, then you have little chance of winning. This is one reason why some politicians support disastrous policies, because they are viewed by the locals as "one of us". It is with that in mind that I call attention to the latest issue of HopeDance, a small magaine published by a California Green. http://www.hopedance.org/. In the current issue, Natasha Dalton carries O'Neil's axiom one step further. "The political is always p;ersonal." > The political is always personal. I wonder if the lack of interest > evident in our local authorities? attitude toward affordable housing > stems from the perception that the problem will eventually get > resolved on its own. Or from the fact that they personally happened to > buy their first homes when housing was indeed affordable. > > Now, with a median home price of $605,700, only 7% of us can afford to > buy a house in our county. Even with a whopping $150,000 as a down > payment, you?ll still need an annual income of $120,000 or more to be > able to enter the market. It is a good read. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From wrolley at charter.net Sun Mar 5 12:50:27 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:50:27 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Land Conservation Initiative Message-ID: <440B4F13.4080805@charter.net> After some thought, discussion and research, I would like to offer the following comments on the Land Conservation Initiative (OpenSpace2006). To begin with we have to make a determination as to what we value enough to take special cautions to preserve it. This is true whether your are talking about a piece of antique furniture, a special memory or Santa Clara County Farm Land. In the latter case, this initiative does more than any other single action taken in recent years, and, to the extent that it fulfills its purpose to "protect hillsides, agricultural lands, watersheds and other valuable rural lands from unnecessary and irreparably harmful development," I support it. There are some other considerations that we should all take into account. The Land Conservation Initiative web site , talks about the effect to "Prevent urban sprawl into rural lands." Actually, it does not do that. It only says that urban sprawl will not take place on some particular set of land, thereby moving it to other locations, out of site and therefore out of mind. The urban sprawl will not be in hills above Calero Reservoir but rather along the wetland sanctuaries of Los Banos. Urban sprawl can not be contained without effective plans for affordable housing and mass transportation. Most of these issues are not under the Santa Clara County General Plan, but rather under the General Plan for the Cities of San Jose, Gilroy, Morgan Hill, Los Altos Hills, etc. What we will see is total urban sprawl as San Jose expands into Coyote Valley. The Coyote Valley Specific Plan started out with great enthusiasm about building a New City. What it will end up as is easy to recognize, as each developer (commercial or residential) gets their chance to influence it, more and more of the original thinking will become compromised. We all have to realize that the entire purpose of this plan, from the viewpoint of the City of San Jose, is to maximize their revenue relative to the costs of running a city. As for Agriculture: The initiative says that: County agricultural lands are an irreplaceable resource. They are cut up into lots for residential development, which is incompatible with farming and ranching. Land speculation for development needs to be discouraged, so that land is affordable for farming. Preservation of agriculture is key to preserving open space and natural resources. Most of those who remain in agriculture will tell you that we have passed the point where Santa Clara Country properties can be operated profitably. The largest Agricultural revenues come from cut flowers and mushrooms, both of which are more factory operations that open space. In fact, the agricultural community in South San Jose, those most affected by the Coyote Valley Plan, as well as those who are on the outskirts of the City of Morgan Hill, all have problems with all efforts to restrain their ability to sell the land that no longer is profitable for agriculture. In S. San Jose, the issue was with the large green belt area on the border between San Jose and Morgan Hill. With the rest of Morgan Hill, this has delayed the efforts to establish an Urban Growth Boundary. No one wants to be left just outside of that boundary. All of this is cautionary that we should not think the problems are solved by this initiative. It is only one step in doing what needs to be done. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at greens.org Sun Mar 5 14:33:19 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:33:19 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Using Your Voice to Unleash the Power of the Internet Message-ID: <440B672F.2000904@greens.org> > *>Dr. Emdad Khan * > >*Using Your Voice to Unleash the Power of the Internet* > > >Dr. Emdad Khan, President and CEO of InternetSpeech, founded the company >in 1998 with the vision to develop innovative technology for accessing information >on the Internet anytime and anywhere, using just an ordinary telephone and the >human voice. Dr. Khan's technical knowledge and understanding of emerging >markets has resulted in the development of Internet Speech's first voice Internet >product/service, netECHO, the only product available today that delivers complete >voice Internet access. > >Dr. Khan, a frequent speaker at voice-recognition, Internet application and other >industry trade shows and conferences, holds 14 patents, has 3 others pending >and has published more than 40 papers on the advent of voice technology on the >Internet, speech recognition, neural nets, fuzzy logic, intelligent systems, VLSI >and optics. He has taught courses at universities and industry conferences on >VLSI, neural net and fuzzy logic. He holds a Doctorate degree in Computer >Science, Master of Science degrees in Electrical Engineering and Engineering >Management and a Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering. > >Dr. Khan will describe and demonstrate the technology behind InternetSpeech's >products and how it has been received by many blind, visually impaired and >elderly users from various organizations, including the San Francisco's Lighthouse >for the Blind, which has incorporated the technology into their organization, the >National Federation of the Blind, and the American Council of the Blind. > Dr. Khan began his presentation by explaining that Internet Speech is available from any telephone. This makes the Internet available to the large number of people that don't have computers, as well as the blind and those who are too far from their computers to use them. The system has modes for surfing the web, searching for information, reading email, and e-commerce. It is one way that people can bridge the digital divide. Then he ran a tape of a typical user logging on and using it to visit a website. The computer had a pleasant professional sounding female voice, and it took the caller only a couple of minutes to get into a mode where she was describing the page he wanted to look at. Dr. Khan explained that there was considerable AI at work deciding which words on the page to read next. Then he played a clip of a caller using the system to buy a box of everybody's favorite cookies. Again, the system handled the job without any trouble. Dr. Khan explained that visually impaired users tend to call for about ten minutes per call, and they tend to call several times per day. People without computers tend to have calls about as long, but less of them. Highly mobile professionals tend to call for much shorter periods, and only when they can't get access to a terminal with a keyboard to accomplish their goals more conveniently. When Internet Speech was starting out, they thought their main customers would be mobile professionals. The blind marketplace was something they stumbled into after that, and it has since turned out to be huge. Over the next year or so the company plans to expand into providing Internet boxes for blind people and support for more languages. At the moment they are growing and the future looks bright. During Q&A the following points came up: E-commerce via Internet Speech does take some customizing of the site to really work well. The company asks vendors to allow one to twenty-one days for doing things like getting the dialogs and menus right before going live. Government likes the system a lot, mostly because it gives them an easy way to comply with disability access laws. The system is currently available in English, Chinese, Japanese, and German. There are plans to expand into providing Spanish and Arabic. Static text that is used over and over is done by recording a human reading the words. Dynamic text is done by text to speech software. The system only has one voice right now, but there are plans for more. For more information, please visit: http://www.internetspeech.com Tian Harter From baalavi at yahoo.com Sun Mar 5 19:44:39 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:44:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: US State Department Rejects Visa Applications of Iraqi Women Whose Families Were Killed by US Troops Message-ID: <20060306034439.34528.qmail@web52109.mail.yahoo.com> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE FEBRUARY 15, 2006 2:12 AM CONTACT: Global Exchange / CODEPINK Medea Benjamin (415) 235-6517 Gael Murphy (202) 412-6700 US State Department Rejects Visa Applications of Iraqi Women Whose Families Were Killed by US Troops Women had planned to tell their stories to US policy makers and the public as part of an International Women's Day peace campaign. WASHINGTON - February 15 - Two Iraqi women whose husbands and children were killed by US troops during the Iraq war have been refused entry into the United States for a speaking tour. The women were invited to the US for peace events surrounding international women's by the human rights group Global Exchange and the women's peace group CODEPINK. In a piece of painful irony, the reason given for the rejection was that the women don't have enough family in Iraq to prove that they'll return to the country. "It's appalling that the US military killed these women's families and then the US government rejects their visas on the grounds that they have no family to return to in Iraq. These women have no desire to stay in the United States. We had a very hard time convincing them to come, but we told them how important it would be for their stories to be heard by Americans," said Medea Benjamin, a co-founder of both the groups that had invited the women to the US. The women whose visa applications were rejected are Anwar Kadhim Jawad and Vivian Salim Mati. They had to make a dangerous journey to Amman, Jordan just to apply for the visas and were told on February 4th that they'd been rejected. On February 14th, CODEPINK was informed by the US State Department that the women "failed to overcome the presumption of intending to emigrate." But the group suspects that other factors influenced the State Department's decision. "I remember how we all cried when we heard Anwar tell her story about losing her husband and three of her children," said Jodie Evans of CODEPINK, who met with Anwar in 2004 in Baghdad. "If the American people heard these stories, their image of the Iraq war would be completely different. I suppose that's why the state department does not want her to come here." Anwar's husband and their four children were driving down the road from their house in Baghdad one day when they were suddenly caught in a hail of bullets from US soldiers. There was no checkpoint and no warning before their car was attacked. Anwar's husband, son and two daughters were shot dead. Only Anwar, who was pregnant at the time, and her 14-year-old daughter, survived. The US Army compensated her with $11,000, but her loss is incalculable and her grief immeasurable. As Anwar told Susan Galleymore, a US military mother who visited Iraq in 2004, "In my family, like many Iraqi families, the husband takes care of all the family business. My job is to care for the well being of the family inside the house while my husband's job is to care for every thing else. This is the way we do it in Iraq. Now, I have no husband. I have no income. I have no house anymore. I live with my parents and these two children. Everything else is gone. I will never recover." Vivian Salim Mati, the other woman whose visa was rejected, lost her husband and children when they decided to flee their home when the US military began bombing their neighborhood three days after they first entered Baghdad. Vivian grabbed their children and jumped in the car. Her husband was driving, and their three children were sitting in the back. They were driving down a side street when they crossed paths with a US tank. The US soldier atop the tank began shooting at them. Vivian's husband and three children were killed right away. Vivian was hurt but still alive. She got out of the car, screaming, 'Help! Help!', but the soldiers just kept shooting. Miraculously, Vivian survived but she carries her grief with her every day. CODEPINK and Global Exchange had hoped to bring Anwar and Vivian to the United States for women's peace events to take place in New York City and Washington, DC around International Women's Day. The women would have spoken at public events and met with policy makers and newspaper editorial boards. In Washington, DC on March 8th, the Iraqi women would have joined with US women who lost loves ones in the war, including Cindy Sheehan, in a Women Say No to War march. At the end of the march, the women would have delivered thousands of signatures to the White House from women around the world who signed the Women Say No to War urgent petition for peace, which calls for an end to the Iraq war and all Iraqi civilians in 2006. CODEPINK and Global Exchange are asking people to contact the US State Department to urge them to reverse the decision and grant visas to the Iraqi women. -- Daryoush Weblog: http://perlustration.blogspotcom/ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:23:53 -0000 Size: 8582 URL: From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Mar 6 10:03:48 2006 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:03:48 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Candidate Basics Training Program in Petaluma Sunday March 19th Message-ID: <9f.717dd7c6.313dd384@aol.com> GREEN PARTY CANDIDATE TRAINING SUNDAY MARCH 19TH 9 AM - 4 PM 215 Water Street, Petaluma, CA The Green Party of California Campaigns and Candidates Working Group, Media Committee and Sonoma County Greens present a series of discussions about being a candidate for elected office. This program is intended to benefit persons who are thinking about being a candidate for local office or helping in an election campaign but who have not had previous experience. The focus will be ?campaign basics?. Presentations will be led by Green Party activists, including present or former elected officials. A noontime news conference for current Green Party candidates also is planned. Advance RSVP is strongly encouraged as space is limited. For more information about the program, contact Warner Bloomberg (408) 295-9353 _wsb3attyca at aol.com_ (mailto:wsb3attyca at aol.com) or Bill Patterson (707) 838-3079 _billpatterson at earthlink.net_ (mailto:billpatterson at earthlink.net) . For information about the news conference, contact Cres Velluci (916) 996-9170 _civillib at cwnet.com_ (mailto:civillib at cwnet.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Mar 6 18:14:02 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:14:02 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] One more comment on the Land Conservation Initiative Message-ID: <440CEC6A.6080808@charter.net> Morgan Hill councilman and initiative supporter, Mark Grzan, indicated to me one more concern. That is the fact that some lands will be covered under the iniative, but would lose that protection is and when those lands were added to a City, be that City San Jose, Morgan Hill, Gilroy or the proposed incorporation of San Martin. As I said in a previous post, this is only one skirmish in a bigger battle. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From WB4D23 at aol.com Tue Mar 7 16:29:58 2006 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:29:58 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Videographer wanted for March 19th Candidates Event in Petaluma Message-ID: Roy... Anyone else who can video tape a program and create dvd copies -- I am looking for someone to video record the candidates training program in Petaluma Sunday March 19th. The CCWG has some budget for this. Please advise re your abilities and availability. Warner (408/295-9353) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at greens.org Tue Mar 7 23:34:16 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:34:16 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gender and Engineering Message-ID: <440E88F8.4050701@greens.org> > >Sheri D. Sheppard > >Gender and Engineering > >Sheri Sheppard has been at Stanford University in the Design Division of Mechanical Engineering >since 1986. Besides teaching both undergraduate and graduate design related classes, she >conducts experimental and analytical research on weld fatigue and impact failures, fracture >mechanics, and applied finite element analysis. Last year Professor Sheppard participated in >a forum organized by Stanford's Institute for Research on Women and Gender in response to >remarks by Harvard University President Lawrence H. Summers suggesting that gender played >a role in women succeeding in science. > >Sheri will describe her experience at the forum and her thoughts on why while representation >in the scientific world is increasing slightly for women, they still only hold 9 percent of jobs in >engineering. At Stanford, women make up 23 percent of the faculty as a whole, but only 15 >percent of the faculty in science and engineering. In addition, Sheri is co-Principal Investigator >with Professor Larry Leifer on a multi-university NSF project for reforming undergraduate >engineering curriculum, and is involved with several projects focused on increasing the >presentation of underrepresented groups in the engineering workforce. > Dr. Sheppard began by explaining that only about 1% of the American population lists itself as Engineers of one kind or another. Of those, only about 9% are women, making them a rare breed among a rare breed. In her own case, that meant being the only woman among the 36 faculty in Mechanical Engineering at Stanford University for many years. She explained that among bachelors degrees, Engineering is one that is most likely to lead to a job with good pay. Among engineers, women are not the only under-represented minority. Blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans are also under-represented. The only group that is over-represented (relative to their representation in the general population) is Asians, who are about 4% of the general population and 11% of the Engineering workforce. Engineers are respected enough that almost every parent would be proud to let their children join the profession, even though engineers are generally not considered creative. Women engineering students are underrepresented among college freshmen, but not as much as they are among engineering college graduates. Studies show that the reason is not a question of ability, because the woman who leave engineering are of higher grade point averages than even many of the guys that stick it out and get an engineering degree. Partly it is social factors like teachers singling them out or being the only female in a classroom situation. Many express a desire to "work with people instead of machines." Professor Sheppard thinks that reshaping the way the profession is percieved, if not practiced, can change some of this. One area where a lot of work is going on in this regard is robot competitions. Teams of High School students are being offered the opportunity to engineer their own robots to compete at the local and regional level. Not many women participate, but more do when they are urged to think of the team as a community they can move forward. Also, when they enter as all female teams, more of them get something out of the experience. Another area is college admissions criteria. It turns out that most engineering programs are so regimented that students have to decide to be engineers by the age of 17 to complete a BS in four years. By reframing the list of prequisites, it is possible to broaden the appeal of the field to people that hadn't taken advanced math or computer programming in high school, but were willing to take it as freshmen. Tian Harter From alexcathy at aol.com Wed Mar 8 08:04:40 2006 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:04:40 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gender and Engineering In-Reply-To: <440E88F8.4050701@greens.org> References: <440E88F8.4050701@greens.org> Message-ID: <8C810E123FADC47-F00-ECC3@MBLK-M41.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, It is Women's History Month. So, once again it is time to play: "Let's-Everybody-Pretend-the-USA-is-the-World's-Greatest-Techno-Meritocra cy!" Prof. Sheppard sounds like a fascinating person and this was, no doubt, an interesting presentation, but, once again, not one word about the pervasive discrimination and harassment in the industry. It is unthinkable that a Stanford Professor would have an unkind word to say about even a crude sexist pig like the notorious T. J. Rogers of Cypress Semiconductor. Why do people ALWAYS apologize and cover-up for these corporate bastards on this question? I don't get it. Certain "Lefty" professors at Stanford and Berkeley have no problem suggesting these corporations are in gigantic conspiracies to spread bird flu for profit or in league with the governments of Israel and the United States to dump on the Arabs and rule the world. But no one can ever dare say that the reason more women and certain "minorities" do not go into engineering is not the "the way the profession is perceived, if not practiced" but because of the way the profession, in fact, is practiced by that tiresome group of geeky "good old boys." (sigh! Liberals! Pain-in-the-ass Liberals!) Alex Walker -----Begin Original Message----- From: Tian Harter To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:34:16 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gender and Engineering Sheri D. Sheppard Gender and Engineering Sheri Sheppard has been at Stanford University in the Design Division of Mechanical Engineering since 1986. Besides teaching both undergraduate and graduate design related classes, she conducts experimental and analytical research on weld fatigue and impact failures, fracture mechanics, and applied finite element analysis. Last year Professor Sheppard participated in a forum organized by Stanford's Institute for Research on Women and Gender in response to remarks by Harvard University President Lawrence H. Summers suggesting that gender played a role in women succeeding in science. Sheri will describe her experience at the forum and her thoughts on why while representation in the scientific world is increasing slightly for women, they still only hold 9 percent of jobs in engineering. At Stanford, women make up 23 percent of the faculty as a whole, but only 15 percent of the faculty in science and engineering. In addition, Sheri is co-Principal Investigator with Professor Larry Leifer on a multi-university NSF project for reforming undergraduate engineering curriculum, and is involved with several projects focused on increasing the presentation of underrepresented groups in the engineering workforce. . . . Dr. Sheppard began by explaining that only about 1% of the American population lists itself as Engineers of one kind or another. Of those, only about 9% are women, making them a rare breed among a rare breed. In her own case, that meant being the only woman among the 36 faculty in Mechanical Engineering at Stanford University for many years. She explained that among bachelors degrees, Engineering is one that is most likely to lead to a job with good pay. Among engineers, women are not the only under-represented minority. Blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans are also under-represented. The only group that is over-represented (relative to their representation in the general population) is Asians, who are about 4% of the general population and 11% of the Engineering workforce. Engineers are respected enough that almost every parent would be proud to let their children join the profession, even though engineers are generally not considered creative. Women engineering students are underrepresented among college freshmen, but not as much as they are among engineering college graduates. Studies show that the reason is not a question of ability, because the woman who leave engineering are of higher grade point averages than even many of the guys that stick it out and get an engineering degree. Partly it is social factors like teachers singling them out or being the only female in a classroom situation. Many express a desire to "work with people instead of machines." Professor Sheppard thinks that reshaping the way the profession is percieved, if not practiced, can change some of this. . . . -----End Original Message----- From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 11:03:29 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:03:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSCC Impeachment Resolution Message-ID: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> Last night the GPSCC conditionally passed a revised Impeachment Resolution last night. - "conditionally"? There was some concern about whether Rumsfeld and Gonzalez are in fact impeachable. It seems likely that they are, but it needs to be verified. - "revised"? We started with the Nevada County Resolution with "Nevada" replaced by "Santa Clara". There was concern about the usage of "massive death". We agreed to replace it with "widespread death". There were differing opinion's on Carol Brouillet's proposed change, but in the end it was accepted. There was major concern with the usage of the word "demands" in the sentence "Therefore, the Green Party of [Santa Clara County] demands the impeachment and consequent removal of the four aforementioned officials." There were a number of proposed alternatives such as "strongly urge", "strongly advocate" and others. The concern against "demands" was that it would be offputting to the elected officials. The main reason expressed for keeping "demands" was that it is for a much wider audience than just Congress. The majority wanted to leave in the word "demands", so the suggested amendments were not accepted, there was at least one person who would not stand aside on the concern, we took a vote: 10 Yes / 2 No / 1 Abstention. There was some discussion about what to do with the resolution. The end result was: - We will not use email for the Congress members, we will use paper and envelope. - It was suggested that it would be better to hand deliver the resolution. I will be hand delivering to Anna Eshoo's office. I don't know who, if anybody, will be hand delivering to Mike Honda's office, Zoe Lofgren's office, or Richard Pombo's office. - The resolution will be sent, by email, to the GPCA media committee and some of the media. We did not talk about other possibility additions, e.g. Plame, Katrina, First Amendment vioaltions. So here is the revised resolution, IF we get verification of the impeachability of Rumsfeld and Gonzales: ============================================================ A RESOLUTION OF THE GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA in defense of the Constitution of the United States demanding the impeachment of George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney and two complicit associates. Whereas the Declaration of Independence declares securing "unalienable Rights" including "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" to be the purpose of government and Whereas the Constitution of the United States establishes the firm foundation for our rule of law and its Bill of Rights provides for the precious individual rights and freedoms guaranteed to all American citizens, Whereas, in the conduct of their offices, President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, in violation of their constitutional oaths to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" and to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed," have committed any or all of the following "high Crimes and Misdemeanors:" 1. WARRANTLESS SEARCHES: ordering the National Security Agency to conduct secret warrantless searches and seizures of the private personal communications of American citizens, without oversight by the legislative or judicial branches of the government, in violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of the Congress (FISA 1978); 2. TORTURE: authorizing and permitting torture against human beings, in violation of the Geneva Conventions (1864-1949) and the United Nations? Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (1985); 3. INDEFINITE DETENTION: depriving American citizens of their constitutionally guaranteed rights regarding unjust imprisonment and speedy and public trial, in violation of their rights to guaranteed liberty and due process of law in the 5th and 6th Amendments; 4. WAR OF AGGRESSION: launching an illegal, unjust and undeclared war against the sovereign state of Iraq, in violation of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution and Chapters 1, 6, and 7 of the Charter of the United Nations (1945); 5. USE OF ILLEGAL WEAPONS: authorizing the use of illegal chemical and radioactive weapons in military campaigns, notably white phosphorous and depleted uranium in Iraq, in violation of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR 1948); 6. DELIBERATE DECEPTIONS: repeatedly, consciously, and with forethought, lying to the American people and the U.S. Congress by providing false and deceptive rationales for an unjustified and illegal war in Iraq, obstructing justice by destroying evidence, and covering up the truth about the 9-11 attacks; 7. ATTACKING CIVILIANS: authorizing, ordering, and condoning direct military attacks on civilians and civilian homes and communities, thereby causing massive death, maiming and destruction in Iraq, in violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; and 8. VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL TREATIES: violating and unilaterally abrogating lawful signatory treaties, such as the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (1972) between the United States and Russia, the Treaty of Rome (1950) establishing the International Criminal Court and the Geneva Conventions providing for humane treatment of combatants and civilians, in violation of Article VI of the Constitution acknowledging these treaties to be "the Supreme Law of the Land." Therefore, the Green Party of Santa Clara County demands the impeachment and consequent removal from office of the four aforementioned officials. Be it further resolved that the Green Party of Santa Clara County petitions the House of Representatives of the U.S. Congress to initiate Impeachment proceedings against all four identified officials. Be it further resolved that copies of this Resolution be sent to our Congressional representatives. (Adopted at the Monthly Meeting on March 7, 2006 in Sunnyvale, California) From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 11:14:53 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:14:53 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSCC Impeachment Resolution References: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <440F2D2D.1060904@earthlink.net> Oops, I forgot to make one of the edits. It is corrected below. Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > Last night the GPSCC conditionally passed a revised Impeachment > Resolution last night. > > - "conditionally"? > There was some concern about whether Rumsfeld and Gonzalez > are in fact impeachable. It seems likely that they are, > but it needs to be verified. > > - "revised"? > We started with the Nevada County Resolution with "Nevada" > replaced by "Santa Clara". > > There was concern about the usage of "massive death". We > agreed to replace it with "widespread death". > > There were differing opinion's on Carol Brouillet's proposed > change, but in the end it was accepted. > > There was major concern with the usage of the word "demands" > in the sentence "Therefore, the Green Party of [Santa Clara > County] demands the impeachment and consequent removal of > the four aforementioned officials." There were a number of > proposed alternatives such as "strongly urge", "strongly > advocate" and others. The concern against "demands" was > that it would be offputting to the elected officials. The > main reason expressed for keeping "demands" was that it is > for a much wider audience than just Congress. > > The majority wanted to leave in the word "demands", so the > suggested amendments were not accepted, there was at least > one person who would not stand aside on the concern, we > took a vote: 10 Yes / 2 No / 1 Abstention. > > There was some discussion about what to do with the resolution. > The end result was: > - We will not use email for the Congress members, we will use > paper and envelope. > - It was suggested that it would be better to hand deliver the > resolution. I will be hand delivering to Anna Eshoo's office. > I don't know who, if anybody, will be hand delivering to Mike > Honda's office, Zoe Lofgren's office, or Richard Pombo's office. > - The resolution will be sent, by email, to the GPCA media > committee and some of the media. > > We did not talk about other possibility additions, e.g. Plame, > Katrina, First Amendment vioaltions. > > > So here is the revised resolution, IF we get verification of > the impeachability of Rumsfeld and Gonzales: > > ============================================================ > > > A RESOLUTION OF THE GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY, > CALIFORNIA in defense of the Constitution of the > United States demanding the impeachment of George W. > Bush, Richard B. Cheney and two complicit associates. > > Whereas the Declaration of Independence declares > securing "unalienable Rights" including "Life, > Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" to be the > purpose of government and > Whereas the Constitution of the United States > establishes the firm foundation for our rule of law > and its Bill of Rights provides for the precious > individual rights and freedoms guaranteed to all > American citizens, > Whereas, in the conduct of their offices, President > George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, > Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney > General Alberto Gonzales, in violation of their > constitutional oaths to "preserve, protect and defend > the Constitution" and to "take Care that the Laws be > faithfully executed," have committed any or all of the > following "high Crimes and Misdemeanors:" > > 1. WARRANTLESS SEARCHES: ordering the National > Security Agency to conduct secret warrantless searches > and seizures of the private personal communications of > American citizens, without oversight by the > legislative or judicial branches of the government, in > violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution and > the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of the > Congress (FISA 1978); > > 2. TORTURE: authorizing and permitting torture > against human beings, in violation of the Geneva > Conventions (1864-1949) and the United Nations? > Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman, > or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (1985); > > 3. INDEFINITE DETENTION: depriving American citizens > of their constitutionally guaranteed rights regarding > unjust imprisonment and speedy and public trial, in > violation of their rights to guaranteed liberty and > due process of law in the 5th and 6th Amendments; > > 4. WAR OF AGGRESSION: launching an illegal, unjust > and undeclared war against the sovereign state of > Iraq, in violation of Article I, Section 8 of the > Constitution and Chapters 1, 6, and 7 of the Charter > of the United Nations (1945); > > 5. USE OF ILLEGAL WEAPONS: authorizing the use of > illegal chemical and radioactive weapons in military > campaigns, notably white phosphorous and depleted > uranium in Iraq, in violation of the United Nations > Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR 1948); > > 6. DELIBERATE DECEPTIONS: repeatedly, consciously, > and with forethought, lying to the American people and > the U.S. Congress by providing false and deceptive > rationales for an unjustified and illegal war in Iraq, > obstructing justice by destroying evidence, and > covering up the truth about the 9-11 attacks; > > 7. ATTACKING CIVILIANS: authorizing, ordering, and > condoning direct military attacks on civilians and > civilian homes and communities, thereby causing > widespread death, maiming and destruction in Iraq, in > violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of > Human Rights; and > > 8. VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL TREATIES: violating > and unilaterally abrogating lawful signatory treaties, > such as the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (1972) > between the United States and Russia, the Treaty of > Rome (1950) establishing the International Criminal > Court and the Geneva Conventions providing for humane > treatment of combatants and civilians, in violation of > Article VI of the Constitution acknowledging these > treaties to be "the Supreme Law of the Land." > > > Therefore, the Green Party of Santa Clara County > demands the impeachment and consequent removal from > office of the four aforementioned officials. > Be it further resolved that the Green Party of Santa > Clara County petitions the House of Representatives > of the U.S. Congress to initiate Impeachment > proceedings against all four identified officials. > Be it further resolved that copies of this > Resolution be sent to our Congressional > representatives. > > (Adopted at the Monthly Meeting on March 7, 2006 in > Sunnyvale, California) > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > From wrolley at charter.net Wed Mar 8 11:17:31 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:17:31 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSCC Impeachment Resolution In-Reply-To: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> References: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <440F2DCB.3080108@charter.net> >Last night the GPSCC conditionally passed a revised Impeachment >Resolution last night. > >- "conditionally"? > There was some concern about whether Rumsfeld and Gonzalez > are in fact impeachable. It seems likely that they are, > but it needs to be verified. > The list of those who have been impeached during the history of the United States includes : 1 Supreme Court Justice (Chase), 2 Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Clinton), 1 Senator, 1 Cabinet Officer (*William W. Belknap,* secretary of war; acquitted Aug. 1, 1876. charged with accepting a money for a military appointment), and 11 other federal judges. So, it seems that there is a precedent for the impeachment of a cabinet officer. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 12:16:08 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:16:08 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSCC Impeachment Resolution References: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> <440F2DCB.3080108@charter.net> Message-ID: <440F3B88.3070805@earthlink.net> Thank you, Wes, that's helpful. Gerry Wes Rolley wrote: > > >>Last night the GPSCC conditionally passed a revised Impeachment >>Resolution last night. >> >>- "conditionally"? >> There was some concern about whether Rumsfeld and Gonzalez >> are in fact impeachable. It seems likely that they are, >> but it needs to be verified. >> > The list of those who have been impeached during the history of the > United States includes > : 1 Supreme Court Justice (Chase), > 2 Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Clinton), > 1 Senator, > 1 Cabinet Officer (William W. Belknap, secretary of war; acquitted Aug. > 1, 1876. charged with accepting a money for a military appointment), > and 11 other federal judges. > So, it seems that there is a precedent for the impeachment of a cabinet > officer. > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > http://www.refpub.com/ > Tel: 408.778.3024 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 12:19:10 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:19:10 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSCC Impeachment Resolution References: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <440F3C3E.2070001@earthlink.net> Gerry Gras wrote: > Last night the GPSCC conditionally passed a revised Impeachment > Resolution last night. > > - "conditionally"? > There was some concern about whether Rumsfeld and Gonzalez > are in fact impeachable. It seems likely that they are, > but it needs to be verified. > I have received an email from a member of the GP of Nevada County. It includes these 2 links: http://www.aclu.org/safefree/rumsfeld/index.html http://www.impeachbush.org The second one includes a letter from Ramsey Clark (former U.S. Attorney General) which specifically names the four individuals in our resolution. (And this is why Nevada County included those individuals.) Is this enough confirmation of their impeachability? Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Wed Mar 8 14:25:07 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 14:25:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mar 17 Message-ID: <440F59C3.90601@charter.net> Remember, March 17th is the big day for the Wearing o' the Green, I mean the Raising o' the Green. Check out this party. http://printsho.station193.com/public_html/gpsuffolk/gpsuffolkf.php Thought that I should *PUB*-lish something. 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URL: From tnharter at greens.org Wed Mar 8 15:27:30 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:27:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mar 17 In-Reply-To: <440F59C3.90601@charter.net> References: <440F59C3.90601@charter.net> Message-ID: <440F6862.4090507@greens.org> Wes Rolley wrote: > Remember, March 17th is the big day for the Wearing o' the Green, I > mean the Raising o' the Green. > > Check out this party. > > http://printsho.station193.com/public_html/gpsuffolk/gpsuffolkf.php > > Thought that I should *PUB*-lish something. > > It is a Friday Night...green beer anyone? > >-- >"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > >Wes Rolley >http://www.refpub.com/ >Tel: 408.778.3024 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org >http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > That sounds like a great idea. There are two Irish bars in Mountain View, but they usually charge admission to loud music on Friday evenings. Anybody have a better idea? -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest Addition: Added a Nevada quarter. Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From tnharter at greens.org Wed Mar 8 17:42:09 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:42:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] A Warning for all the gardeners out there! Message-ID: <440F87F1.4000804@greens.org> The University of Louisiana ADVISES AGAINST purchasing MULCH that originated in Louisiana due to Termite contmination. >>Click >>here: LSU AgCenter . Formosan Subterranean Termites Portal >> >>If you use mulch around your house be very careful about buying mulch this >>year. After the hurricane in New Orleans many trees were blown over. These >>trees were then turned into mulch and the state is trying to get rid of >>tons and tons of this mulch to any state or company who will come and haul >>it away. So it will be showing up in Home Depot and Lowes at dirt cheap >>prices with one huge problem; Formosan Termites will be the bonus in many >>of those bags. New Orleans is one of the few areas in the country were the >>Formosan Termites has gotten a strong hold and most of the trees blown >>down were already badly infested with those termites. Now we may have the >>worst case of transporting a problem to all parts of the country that we >>have ever had. These termites can eat a house in no time at all and we >>have no good control against them, so tell your friends that own homes to >>avoid cheap mulch and know were it came from. > > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest Addition: Added a Nevada quarter. Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From thinkgreen at threeparty.org Wed Mar 8 21:30:25 2006 From: thinkgreen at threeparty.org (Roy) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 21:30:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Videographer wanted for March 19th Candidates Event in Petaluma In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <440FBD71.3000102@threeparty.org> WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: > Roy... Anyone else who can video tape a program and create dvd copies -- > > I am looking for someone to video record the candidates training program > in Petaluma > Sunday March 19th. The CCWG has some budget for this. Please advise re > your > abilities and availability. Warner (408/295-9353) > > I'm booked solid that weekend Try craigs list. Peace Roy From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 8 23:37:01 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:37:01 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [GPCA-CC] Impeachment] Message-ID: <440FDB1D.9080503@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [GPCA-CC] Impeachment Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:12:40 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Larry Cafiero / Liaison Reply-To: Larry Cafiero / Liaison , GPCA Coordinating Committee To: GPCA Coordinating Committee , GPCA Coordinating Committee Article II Section 4 of the United States Constitution: "The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." I think that includes the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General Larry Cafiero Liaison to the Secretary of State's office Green Party of California -----Original Message----- >From: Gerry Gras >Sent: Mar 8, 2006 11:25 AM >To: GPCA Coordinating Committee >Subject: Re: [GPCA-CC] Impeachment > > >The GPSCC at its regularly scheduled business meeting, >(GA, not CC) passed a resolution slightly different than >the Nevada County resolution, CONDITIONAL upon verification >that Rumsfeld and Gonzales are in fact impeachable. > >Gerry > > >omni wrote: > >> San Francisco City Council Joins Impeachment Movement >> >> >> >> When will Greens Move? ~BC >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >gpca-cc mailing list >gpca-cc at marla.cagreens.org >http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-cc Liaison to the Secretary of State Green Party of California _______________________________________________ gpca-cc mailing list gpca-cc at marla.cagreens.org http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-cc From wrolley at charter.net Thu Mar 9 10:00:29 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:00:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Immigration Message-ID: <44106D3D.5020500@charter.net> The following was written from the perspective of the 11th CD. I sent it to some other activists there, including one researcher on McCloskey's campaign staff. However, the comments here also apply to the Green Party across California, and in particular to the relationship between the GP and MAPA. Camejo will be in LA to day to hold a press conference about the eviction of a group of "community farmers" (mostly Hispanic) in S. LA. There will was a Camejo press release yesterday on this issue and a planned press release from the GP today -- double hit. I have also suggested that we need a more generalized press release on imigration and the copied text explains why now. __ I have been thinking about how the immigration issue might play out in the 11th CD race. It is not easy, partly because of the fact that this is a distinctly Republican race and a very Republican issue. I am trying to write something for PomboWatch, but what I have does not work yet. There are, however, some important reasons why the timing to do something is now. Let me first, just list the rationale about timing. - the Pew Hispanic Center released a study on March 7. that says the "Center developed an estimate of 11.5 to 12 million for the unauthorized population as of March 2006." - on March 8, the United Farm Workers sent out an action alert to contact Senator Feinstein as the Senate Judiciary committee was to start considering a new immigration bill. Feinstein and Ariz. Sen. Kyl recently co-sponsored a bill making it a crime to put a tunnel under the boreder. - also on March 8, a new Feild Poll was released re: Growing differences between voters and non-voters about perceived impact illegal immigrants are having on state and whether they should be issued driver's licenses. Broad-based support for guest worker program. That poll was well covered by KGO-TV (ABC-7) last night. In the little book store discussion that McCloskey and Benigno had with some Tracy voters, it seems that the issue of immigration was the major question raised. Perhaps, the key things about this are: - the PEW statistics will be used to generate scare tactics by minuteman style organizations. - the Field Poll shows an interesting split in California population about immigration: This split indicates differences between Republican and Democratic voters and also between registered voters and non-registered voters. The latter is the biggest difference. Consider the following quote from the poll report. __ Between 1982 and 1994 The Field Poll found a slight decline in the large majority of the state?s residents who viewed illegal immigrants as having a negative effect on the state. For example, in 1982, 75% felt illegal immigrants had an unfavorable impact on the state, while just 19% thought their overall impact was favorable. This narrowed a bit to a 69% to 23% margin in 1987 and to a 67% to 26% margin in 1994. However, in the current survey, the proportions of residents who feel illegal immigrants are having an unfavorable impact has declined to 45%, while about as many (47%) now feel they are having a favorable impact." __ However, this split widens when you consider ethnicity and voter registration status. __ "There are also big differences among subgroups of the registered voter population. Registered Republicans are most one-sided in their belief that the effects illegal immigrants are having on the state are unfavorable, with 71% holding to this view. On the other hand, registered Democrats are about evenly split on the matter. Regardless of their voting status, white non-Hispanics and Latinos also hold very different views on this subject. The former group, by a 58% to 33% margin, sees the overall impact of illegal immigrants in an unfavorable light. By contrast, three-fourths (75%) of Latinos believe that illegal immigrants have a generally positive effect on the state." __ Other polls seem to back this up: According to the web site of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly... *According to a survey conducted by The Terrance Group , 72% of registered likely GOP voters favor comprehensive immigration reform legislation, focusing on border security, interior enforcement and a worker program with an option for earned legalization for the undocumented. * When you look at Pombo's voting record over his entire career, this is pretty much how he voted except for the last phrase. "*a worker program with an option for earned legalization for the undocumented."* On that matter, his is on record against it. The most recent votes show this. He voted for the "Sensenbrenner' immigration bill in Dec. 2005. When the AgJOBS bill came up in 2004, he supported all of its provisions except for the ability to earn credits toward citizenship. After sorting through all of this, I would have to say that the only vulnerability for Pombo among Hispanics might be that his pattern of support will always be in the tradition of the Bracero Program, where you are good enough to work for slave wages but not good enough to really join society as equal citizens. There needs to be a way to make Pombo take a stand on this issue, and do it quickly. I don't think that McCloskey can do that, as the overall pattern of Republican voters in San Joaquin County is likely to be more like Pombo than like the Republican National Hispanic Assembly. Then, the raising of that issue has to be coupled with a voter registration campaign among Hispanic's by the parties of the left. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Wed Mar 8 19:06:30 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 19:06:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The End of the Internet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ad7f1a3735d73449c235f984154028d@cagreens.org> Cameron, What about what Metrofi and others are doing in Cupertino, Sunnyvale, and Santa Clara (not to mention SF, etc.!) by putting up transmitters and telling people that access is FREE? My house in Sunnyvale is 280 feet from one of those transmitters, or so I've been told by Metrofi. What do you expect will happen in future? Will the "free" go away? Andrea On Feb 4, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > > But that doesn't mean bandwidth is free. We're just > not paying for it right now. (Routers and the staff > to manage them and the fortresses they live in > turn out to be the big cost.) The telcos are locked > in a price war with the cable TV companies, > charging less than cost for residential broadband > and the network behind it. They're looking for a > way to end that price war. You're gonna have to > pay something approaching the cost for movie downloads > and podcasts and voice over IP. Good. It won't be > True Cost Pricing, but it will be more real than the > free bandwidth fantasy we're living in now. > > Cameron > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > Andrea Dorey 408-306-1900 (cell phone, short messages please) Chinese Proverb: "If you do not climb the mountain, you will not see the plain." From andid at cagreens.org Wed Mar 8 18:42:51 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 18:42:51 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BioDiesel In-Reply-To: <20060302150420.49112.qmail@web52108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060302150420.49112.qmail@web52108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <064e38d51ee1b656f7cab01e2269065f@cagreens.org> Bob and all, The Better Part just reviewed a program taped recently by one of our producers about a local guy who runs his diesel Mercedes on filtered (by hand) cooking oil with no "bio" chemical additives included! He gets the oil absolutely free from local fast food places. We show him and our producer driving away and off-camera in the said Mercedes. Andrea On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Bob Alavi wrote: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060301/sc_nm/life_biodiesel_dc > > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! > Mail._______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > Andrea Dorey Santa Clara County Green Party 408-306-1900 (cell phone: short messages please) Chinese Proverbs: "Serving the powerful is like sleeping with a tiger." and "It is difficult to get off a tiger's back." From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Thu Mar 9 15:23:54 2006 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:23:54 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The End of the Internet? Message-ID: >From: Andrea Dorey >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 19:06:30 -0800 >To: Green South Bay Discussion >X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] The End of the Internet? >Cameron, >What about what Metrofi and others are doing in Cupertino, Sunnyvale, >and Santa Clara (not to mention SF, etc.!) by putting up transmitters >and telling people that access is FREE? Yahoo has been telling people email accounts are "free" for a decade. Businessmen are always telling people that things that cost money are "free." And when you tell people things they want to hear, they believe it. Of course, Yahoo Mail isn't free at all. The advertisers pay for it. Yahoo is selling space on your screen, and your time to download the ads, to advertisers. If Metrofi can find someone to pay for access, then it won't charge the users for access. And what will happen is 1% of the users will download movies and music all the time and create 99.9% of the traffic. Same as what happens on all the other ways consumers reach the Internet. Maybe Metrofi will go out of business. Maybe Metrofi will decide to charge those 1% of users some kind of high volume fee. I think that would be fair. If Metrofi decided to charge everybody the same, that would be less fair. The light users would be subsidizing the heavy users. Obviously Metrofi has a business plan that says the money is going to come from somewhere. > My house in Sunnyvale is 280 >feet from one of those transmitters, or so I've been told by Metrofi. >What do you expect will happen in future? I think there will be more than one Internet, and the connections between them will be restricted. It's already happening to the public email system. There's the original, professionally and cooperatively managed system, and there is a new, lower cost system where most of the consumers are, that is relatively poorly run. This will happen because the consumer service business model is nothing like the professional or business to business model. The consumer model is like television, where the advertisers are the real customer, and access to the consumers is the product. That Internet is going to get more and more like television, and like a mail order catalog and a shopping mall. The whole reason it was built was to sell stuff. And if you want to communicate with consumers through it, then you are an advertiser and you will have to pay the owner (or the hijacker, if you prefer) of the medium. That's how television broadcasting works. It's how postal junk mail works. Of course, consumers aren't willing to pay much to be advertised to. They like it better if you tell them it's "free." And it doesn't seem to bother consumers that they have almost no control over it. As long as it's really pretty, and easy to use, and you keep telling them they're "secure." The original Internet will carry on, with the users paying for their use, since the Congress stopped paying for the thing in 1989 or something. There will be considerable expense in guarding the gateways between the two systems so the professional Internet isn't flooded with garbage from the consumer Internet. In fact, there already is. The two networks will run side by side over the same wires, at least for a while. > Will the "free" go away? It always does. Perhaps Metrofi will find a way to charge you through the property or sales taxes you pay. Maybe they'll put you on the consumer Internet "for free" but you'll have to pay for a business grade service. Cameron >Andrea >On Feb 4, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: >> >> But that doesn't mean bandwidth is free. We're just >> not paying for it right now. (Routers and the staff >> to manage them and the fortresses they live in >> turn out to be the big cost.) The telcos are locked >> in a price war with the cable TV companies, >> charging less than cost for residential broadband >> and the network behind it. They're looking for a >> way to end that price war. You're gonna have to >> pay something approaching the cost for movie downloads >> and podcasts and voice over IP. Good. It won't be >> True Cost Pricing, but it will be more real than the >> free bandwidth fantasy we're living in now. >> >> Cameron >> From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 11 10:24:16 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:24:16 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling in Palo Alto Message-ID: <441315D0.7080502@sbcglobal.net> This is a call for volunteers to table at the Palo Alto Peace Rally on Saturday the 18-th. Please contact me to let me know that you will table there next Saturday. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 11 10:26:10 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:26:10 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling in Palo Alto Message-ID: <44131642.9010600@sbcglobal.net> This is a call for volunteers to table at the Palo Alto Peace Rally on Saturday the 18-th. It begins at noon. Please contact me to let me know that you will table there next Saturday. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Mar 11 11:36:07 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 11:36:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [Alt-Media] Life-long Dems fed up with party] Message-ID: <441326A7.1020109@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Alt-Media] Life-long Dems fed up with party Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:09:10 -0800 From: News and views from an alternative perspective Reply-To: alt-media-owner at cagreens.org To: alt-media at cagreens.org References: <20060310233610.61590.qmail at web81608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Enough of the D.C. Dems by Molly Ivins (The Progressive, March 2006) -- Mah fellow progressives, now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of the party. I don't know about you, but I have had it with the D.C. Democrats, had it with the DLC Democrats, had it with every calculating, equivocating, triangulating, straddling, hair-splitting son of a bitch up there, and that includes Hillary Rodham Clinton. I will not be supporting Senator Clinton because: a) she has no clear stand on the war and b) Terri Schiavo and flag-burning are not issues where you reach out to the other side and try to split the difference. You want to talk about lowering abortion rates through cooperation on sex education and contraception, fine, but don't jack with stuff that is pure right-wing firewater. I can't see a damn soul in D.C. except Russ Feingold who is even worth considering for president. The rest of them seem to me so poisonously in hock to this system of legalized bribery they can't even see straight. Look at their reaction to this Abramoff scandal. They're talking about "a lobby reform package." We don't need a lobby reform package, you dimwits, we need full public financing of campaigns, and every single one of you who spends half your time whoring after special interest contributions knows it. The Abramoff scandal is a once in a lifetime gift ? a perfect lesson on what's wrong with the system being laid out for people to see. Run with it, don't mess around with little patches, and fix the system. As usual, the Democrats have forty good issues on their side and want to run on thirty-nine of them. Here are three they should stick to: 1) Iraq is making terrorism worse; it's a breeding ground. We need to extricate ourselves as soon as possible. We are not helping the Iraqis by staying. 2) Full public financing of campaigns so as to drive the moneylenders from the halls of Washington. 3) Single-payer health insurance. Every Democrat I talk to is appalled at the sheer gutlessness and spinelessness of the Democratic performance. The party is still cringing at the thought of being called, ooh-ooh, "unpatriotic" by a bunch of right-wingers. Take "unpatriotic" and shove it. How dare they do this to our country? "Unpatriotic"? These people have ruined the American military! Not to mention the economy, the middle class, and our reputation in the world. Everything they touch turns to dirt, including Medicare prescription drugs and hurricane relief. This is not a time for a candidate who will offend no one; it is time for a candidate who takes clear stands and kicks ass. Who are these idiots talking about [running Sen. John] Warner of Virginia? Being anodyne is not sufficient qualification for being president. And if there's nobody in Washington and we can't find a Democratic governor, let's run Bill Moyers, or Oprah, or some university president with ethics and charisma. What happens now is not up to the has-beens in Washington who run this party. It is up to us. So let's get off our butts and start building a progressive movement that can block the nomination of Hillary Clinton or any other candidate who supposedly has "all the money sewed up." I am tired of having the party nomination decided before the first primary vote is cast, tired of having the party beholden to the same old establishment money. We can raise our own money on the Internet, and we know it. Howard Dean raised $42 million, largely on the web, with a late start when he was running for president, and that ain't chicken feed. If we double it, it gives us the lock on the nomination. So let's go find a good candidate early and organize the shit out of our side. _______________________________________________ Alt-Media news list News and views from an alternative perspective http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/alt-media From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sat Mar 11 14:05:24 2006 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:05:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] unhealthy meeting place Message-ID: This is the second time this year I've caught a cold after an evening in our unheated meeting room. If April 4th is cold I don't think I'll go. Cameron From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Mar 12 01:22:58 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:22:58 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] unhealthy meeting place References: Message-ID: <4413E872.10806@earthlink.net> Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > This is the second time this year I've caught a cold > after an evening in our unheated meeting room. > If April 4th is cold I don't think I'll go. > Dana is pretty unhappy with Banjara too. People have several times expressed a wish to go somewhere else. It seems clear to me that we should move. And to a more central location in the county, convenient to public transit, etc., i.e. downtown San Jose. Who has time to look into it? Gerry From thinkgreen at threeparty.org Sun Mar 12 07:09:24 2006 From: thinkgreen at threeparty.org (Roy) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 07:09:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] unhealthy meeting place In-Reply-To: <4413E872.10806@earthlink.net> References: <4413E872.10806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <441439A4.6020107@threeparty.org> > > > Dana is pretty unhappy with Banjara too. People have > several times expressed a wish to go somewhere else. > It seems clear to me that we should move. And to a > more central location in the county, convenient to > public transit, etc., i.e. downtown San Jose. > > Who has time to look into it? > > Gerry > No time, but I think the library has meeting rooms. Roy From wrolley at charter.net Sun Mar 12 09:18:43 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:18:43 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mercury News gets something right Message-ID: <441457F3.3090202@charter.net> I often make fun of the "Murky News". The following editorial today is one on which I support their effort 100%. Given the history of the City Government in San Jose, this is long overdue. Whether Ron Gonzales or Tom McEnery, City Hall in San Jose has long been the hallway of back room deals. This is local, this is important and I would like to see the Santa Clara County GP issue a local press release supporting the Mercur News on this issue. Wes __ A note from the executive editor SAN JOSE IS ENTITLED TO OPEN GOVERNMENT Dear Reader, A rotunda made of glass rises from a public plaza in the heart of downtown, the centerpiece of San Jose's striking $382 million City Hall and the symbolic seat of government for the nation's 10th-largest city. ``It reflects a contemporary vision of government being transparent and open to view,'' Rob Steinberg, the local architect involved in the project, said just before its completion last fall. The dome, he said, is ``welcoming everybody to see the people's business.'' But too often these days, the ``people's business'' at City Hall is obscured by secrecy. The noble intentions of the dome are clouded by an arrogant disregard for public participation. Little or late notice about important decisions limits public debate. A clear preference to withhold, rather than release, public documents hinders the free flow of information. Deals cut in private are presented to a surprised public left holding the bills. We've seen all this, and more, in the past several years from elected officials who talk about transparency in government but usually operate in a way that guarantees the opposite result. Enough. San Jose needs a sunshine law -- the kind of strong, open government ordinance that cities across the state, including San Francisco and Oakland, use to ensure that the public's business takes place in full view. This week, you may hear a lot about open government and freedom of information. Editors across the country will be writing about ``Sunshine Week'' -- an annual effort of the American Society of Newspaper Editors to make sure the public understands the importance of keeping the public's business in the open. Clearly, editors have a lot at stake in this battle: Access to information is the bread and butter of our newspapers and Web sites. Without the Public Records Act, the Mercury News never could have revealed the real story behind the cost overruns at the new City Hall. Without the Brown Act, which mandates open meetings, council members could line up a majority of votes in secret -- which got the city council into trouble recently when it attempted to take over the Tropicana Shopping Center. We have fought in court, not always successfully, for information that you should know: public employees' salaries, the criminal history of a priest who molested a disabled man and witness accounts of ticket-fixing by a local judge, among other battles. And while we'd sure like to spend less on legal bills arguing for information that clearly is or should be public, the need for a sunshine law in San Jose ultimately isn't about us. It's about you. You are entitled to public information. That's why this effort to push for greater access is being supported by the League of Women Voters of San Jose/Santa Clara and several area neighborhood associations concerned about open government. It's also backed by the San Jose Business Journal and Silicon Valley Community Newspapers. *San Jose at the helm* We hope the move to greater transparency is embraced by all of our communities in Silicon Valley. And we expect that San Jose -- as the largest city in Northern California -- can blaze the trail for others. Here's just one example of why a sunshine law is needed. In January, the operators of San Jose's Grand Prix got a $4 million subsidy in taxpayer money to keep the downtown race afloat for the next two years. It doesn't matter whether you hated the race or thought it was a lively event that brought more than 150,000 people downtown. Even the amount of the subsidy isn't the issue. The issue is that although the mayor knew in November that a new infusion of the public's cash had been requested, the public wasn't told the details until 24 hours before the city council took a final vote on the matter. There were no meetings held ahead of time, allowing residents to engage in a meaningful debate about how their money was being spent. That's not transparent government. That's doing business behind closed doors -- no matter how much natural light comes into that dramatic new City Hall. What's interesting is that if the same issue had come up in San Francisco, Oakland or even in Milpitas, residents would have learned about the subsidy in time to react to it. In Oakland, they would have had 10 days' notice in advance of the meeting; in Milpitas, eight days; in San Francisco, three. Why the difference? Those cities have sunshine laws. Unfortunately, the handling of the race subsidy is not an anomaly in San Jose. There was the $80 million proposal San Jose officials made to Major League Soccer in an attempt to attract a new team to replace the departed Earthquakes -- all before the issue ever came to a public council vote, let alone a full public airing. . . . And let's not forget the downtown land designated for housing -- property that, in secret talks, really was being considered for a baseball stadium. . . . And the Norcal garbage scandal -- another backroom deal that cost the city $11.25 million. . . . And the $45 million surprise involving the cost of furniture for the new City Hall. Sunshine laws help prevent that kind of secrecy by closing loopholes in the state's Public Records Act and Brown Act, creating stricter provisions for notifying residents of meetings and more explicit criteria for what information must be released and when. Given the demonstrated penchant for secrecy here, we need to get beyond talking about open government. We need to start doing something about it. *Guiding principles* A San Jose sunshine law could be based on four principles that are proven to work well in cities nationwide: ? The public's business should take place in public -- including meetings of the council, advisory committees, boards and commissions, as well as meetings of the Redevelopment Agency. ? Members of the public should have a meaningful opportunity to participate in decisions that affect them and to understand how those decisions are made. ? Government records are presumed public, unless specifically exempted to protect vital interests. ? Members of the public should not need a lawyer, or repeated trips to City Hall, to gain access to records. Those are the general elements of a sunshine law. For those of you who want to dive into the specifics of what we think a model sunshine law looks like, we invite you to read an ordinance that we have drafted at *www.* *mercurynews.com*. Yes, we'll acknowledge up front that it's a bit unusual for a newspaper to get into the law-drafting business. And we know other sunshine ordinances have been proposed by council members. But as an organization that spends hundreds of thousands of dollars each year fighting to bring information into the public realm, we have a lot of familiarity with what's common practice across the Bay Area and in California -- and where San Jose comes up woefully short. We offer this draft sunshine law as a way to start the conversation about how our government can better serve the people. We'd like your feedback, and to know about your experiences. What information do you think should be public? Where have you run into roadblocks? Is City Hall telling you what you need to know about decisions that affect you? Let us know what you think at sunshine at mercurynews.com . The time for truly open government in San Jose is long overdue. Let's make the transparency symbolized by the 1,032 panes of glass of the rotunda a reality in how San Jose conducts the public's business. Thank you for reading. Susan Goldberg Executive Editor -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From cbrouillet at igc.org Sun Mar 12 20:28:08 2006 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:28:08 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPoSCC Meeting Notes 3-7-06 Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20060312202600.04755fc8@igc.org> Notes from the Green Party of Santa Clara County meeting of March 7, 2006 Tian --Facilitator Carol- Note-taker Fred - Timekeeper Dana ? Vibes Watcher Open Space Initiative Intro -- Peter Drekmeier, recently elected to the Palo Alto City Council. Over 3 years, environmentalists have been working on it. New For Santa Clara ?protect open space in a very fair way. Only covers Ranch/unincorporated land/large scale agriculture. Reduces the amount of development that you can do. Special protection for scenic views, riparian corridors, sensitive habitat. Lots of support. No cost to voters. We need 52,000 signatures. More info at www.OpenSpace2006.org Warner proposed to endorse the initiative. Seconded. Was concerned about the loophole. City can annex land, but we can battle that. Groups can enforce it and sue. April 29 and 30 -- Next Plenary, Ventura County. We need delegates. Warner volunteered to be delegate, Gerry volunteered to be alternate. Will be candidate forum. Big item will be the budget. Planning Meeting ? not done. Jim Doyle gathered signatures. Gerry Gras gathered signatures for County Council elections No change yet on meeting date 3/18 Peace Events -- SF Rally, Palo Alto 3/25 Saturday, 6:00 a.m. Peace March SwiftSmartVeterans.com San Jose endorsing the march Donate $100 towards food and water. Roy and Jim contacts 3/19 Mountain View Voices for Peace -- Mountain View City Plaza 12-5 They will read the names of those who have died. Buttons ?not many left-- Jim Doyle could make them. 2-1/2? circles needs artwork 4/22 San Jose State Earth Day Junior Statesmen of America We need a Treasurer We need a Regional Rep. Mitch Smith is the only candidate, with Gerry as alternate Impeachment Resolution --- Press Release, Media list ? passed Tuesday April 4th- next meeting From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 13 11:42:53 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:42:53 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling Saturday in Palo Alto Message-ID: <4415CB3D.2010507@sbcglobal.net> This is a call for volunteers to table at the Palo Alto Peace Rally on Saturday the 18-th. It begins at noon. Please contact me to let me know that you will table there next Saturday. Thus far one person has offered to table beginning at 3:45 and one person offered to be an alternate. Also, one person who volunteered via the web site is also willing to table. However, that person needs to have an experienced tabler to share the duties. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Mon Mar 13 11:56:13 2006 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:56:13 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] a voice I happened across Message-ID: "There is a general belief in the U.S. that you get the best approaches by polling large groups of people. That is the basic idea of democracy. There is also a general belief in the U.S. that society works well when everybody acts in their own self-interest. That is the basic idea of capitalism. Putting those two ideas together strikes me as rather risky. How do we avoid mob rule in which the majority exercises their self-interest as the expense of the minority? It seems that this classic problem of democracy is being exacerbated by an increasing devotion to capitalism. "Similarly, many people today argue that the freer the market, the better. But history shows clearly that a free market tends to lead to oligopoly or monopoly. Thus, a truly free market is unstable; you need outside intervention. Even Adam Smith saw this. Why has this been forgotten?" -- Ian Lance Taylor I'm just avoiding actual work this morning. Taylor is most well known for writing the Free Software Foundation's UUCP, a suite of network utilities for networks that are disconnected most of the time. Much of the world's email traveled over UUCP for several years, including mine. I switched from the corporate UUCP to Taylor's because Taylor's was better. The free software movement is full of classical (small L) libertarians. Cameron From tnharter at greens.org Mon Mar 13 15:06:42 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:06:42 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mailing Party at Tians! Message-ID: <4415FB02.3010404@greens.org> I'm to the point now where I have to do a mailing for my campaign. I would be very greatful for any help this evening or tommorrow evening! Please let me know... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The SOS website now says I'm qualified for the ballot! http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_cand.htm Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From thinkgreen at threeparty.org Mon Mar 13 17:15:41 2006 From: thinkgreen at threeparty.org (Roy) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:15:41 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Walking the Talk Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060313171155.048eee58@threeparty.org> Willits CA is trying to create a Local economy. Quite interesting. There's a 3 day symposium the beginning of next month. They've already passed a resolution to green their city hall and are creating gardens. www.willitseconomiclocalization.org Europe is also pushing SLOW cities. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1467576.stm Peace Roy "Humans who enslave, castrate, experiment on and fillet other animals have had an understandable penchant for pretending animals do not feel pain. A sharp distinction between humans and 'animals' is essential if we are to bend them to our will, wear them, eat them-without any disquieting tinges of guilt or regret. It is unseemly of us, who often behave so unfeelingly toward other animals, to contend that only humans can suffer. The behavior of other animals renders such pretensions specious. They are just to much like us. " Dr. Carl Sagan & Ann Druyan. From wrolley at charter.net Mon Mar 13 20:47:20 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:47:20 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Walking the Talk In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20060313171155.048eee58@threeparty.org> References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060313171155.048eee58@threeparty.org> Message-ID: <44164AD8.9070200@charter.net> > Willits CA is trying to create a Local economy. Quite interesting. > There's > a 3 day symposium the beginning of next month. They've already passed a > resolution to green their city hall and are creating gardens. > > www.willitseconomiclocalization.org Good story. GP Alternat Regioanl Rep, Bernie MacDonald has been telling people about Willits for a while now. I would also call attention to the stories on the latest edition of High Country News. The key article is on Global Warming and is headlined "Save our Snow " - the predicament of Aspen Colorado where the number of frost free days has grown by about a month in the last fifty years. (you have to get a trial subscription to read this, or find it in a library.. I have just sent a suggestion to the Santa Clara County Library that they get a subscription.) Some of the items that I found just this week: In 2001, Portland, Or. replaces about 13,300 incandescent traffic signalw with LEF lamps. That is 5 million pounds of C02 that is not pumped into the atmosphere each year and $400K in savings / yr. for the City. San Jose has budget trouble. No brainer. Here is an interesting though, driven by the article I mentioned: In June of 2005, at the US Conference of Mayors, the following Mayors signed the U.S. Mayor's Climate Protection Agreement: Dennis Kennedy - Morgan Hill Jim Burch - Palo Alto Ron Gonzales - San Jose Dean J.Chu - Sunnyvale Why don't we all go back to these Mayors and ask them for the specifics of what they have done to implement that agreement? I will start with Kennedy, my home town. Anyone else game for this? We should get the newest McClatchey Newspaper (Mercury News) to do a follow up. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From tnharter at greens.org Mon Mar 13 21:59:56 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:59:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Walking the Talk In-Reply-To: <44164AD8.9070200@charter.net> References: <6.1.2.0.0.20060313171155.048eee58@threeparty.org> <44164AD8.9070200@charter.net> Message-ID: <44165BDC.6010603@greens.org> Wes Rolley wrote: >Here is an interesting though, driven by the article I mentioned: > >In June of 2005, at the US Conference of Mayors, the following Mayors >signed the U.S. Mayor's Climate Protection Agreement: > >Dennis Kennedy - Morgan Hill >Jim Burch - Palo Alto >Ron Gonzales - San Jose >Dean J.Chu - Sunnyvale > >Why don't we all go back to these Mayors and ask them for the specifics >of what they have done to implement that agreement? I will start with >Kennedy, my home town. Anyone else game for this? We should get the >newest McClatchey Newspaper (Mercury News) to do a follow up. > > Palo Alto is doing quite a bit. There is A LOT of public art in the city that encourages personal responsibility. The biggest zip code of contributors to Acterra is in Palo Alto, and is also the biggest zip code on our Green Party list. Jim Burch is far from the only green activist on that City Council. Another one is Peter Drekmeier, who is spearheading that initiative to protect our open space from mini mansion sprawl. Forgive me, I'm having trouble distinguishing the City from its mayor. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The SOS website now says I'm qualified for the ballot! http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_cand.htm Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Mar 13 23:32:51 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:32:51 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] ATTENTION PLEASE, (was Re: GPSCC Impeachment Resolution) References: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> <440F3C3E.2070001@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <441671A3.8010602@earthlink.net> The GPSCC approved the impeachment resolution CONDITIONAL upon confirmation that Rumsfeld and Gonzales are impeachable. I have been assuming that the question was "Are they impeachable by Congress?" or more precisely, "Does Congress have the authority to impeach them?". At this point, I believe that that question has been answered. So in the email below, I asked whether GPSCC members agree that the condition for passing the resolution has been resolved. I have received answers only from Tian, Wes, and Carol. I would appreciate more answers, especially from whoever raised the point in the first place. I plan to go ahead with sending / delivering the resolution, UNLESS I hear something to the contrary in the next 48 hours. ... Also, at this time I plan to hand deliver the resolution to Anna Eshoo's office, and Tian has volunteered to accompany me. Does anyone want to hand deliver the resolution to the offices of Mike Honda, Zoe Lofgren, or Richard Pombo. Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > Gerry Gras wrote: > > >>Last night the GPSCC conditionally passed a revised Impeachment >>Resolution last night. >> >>- "conditionally"? >> There was some concern about whether Rumsfeld and Gonzalez >> are in fact impeachable. It seems likely that they are, >> but it needs to be verified. >> >> > > > > > I have received an email from a member of the GP of > Nevada County. > > It includes these 2 links: > http://www.aclu.org/safefree/rumsfeld/index.html > http://www.impeachbush.org > > The second one includes a letter from Ramsey Clark > (former U.S. Attorney General) which specifically names > the four individuals in our resolution. (And this is > why Nevada County included those individuals.) > > Is this enough confirmation of their impeachability? > > Gerry > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > From wrolley at charter.net Tue Mar 14 08:18:41 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:18:41 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Open Space Initiative Message-ID: <4416ECE1.7060201@charter.net> I had the following LTE in the MH Times today. __ This month, you are being asked to sign a petition for a Land Conservation Initiative to go on the November Ballot. This is being advertised as an "Open Space" initiative, but truthfull it goes far beyond being only that. We are being asked to make a fundamental decision about what we value and how much value we place on the way our communitiy grows, where that growth takes place and at what pace. Morgan Hill has for a long time favored controlling the rate of growth. The restrictions that this initiative places on the permitted uses of hillsides, ranchlands and agricultural areas are designed to ensure that they will not become the haven for high impact industry that fails to meet City Zoning standards. We already see that in parts of Coyote Valley and will see it all over without additional regulation. One objective of this petition is to "preserve ranchlands and agriculture." It may be too late to truly do that. I have been told by many agricultural producers in the valley that they are only marginally profitable, if that. Even our own County Government demonstrated that they did not think it worth trying to preserve agricultural land when they allowed Williamson Act abuse to become the rule rather than a rare exception. The initiative is one way of preserving agricultural lands. They may have to change in terms of what they produce and how they get their product to market. But having some supply of food close to metropolitan areas makes sense in an era when the transportation and handling costs of everything are escalating every year. This initiative needs to be coupled with proper use of the Williamson Act. I am going to sign the petition. I have complete support for its objectives. Even if I did not, I would still sign the petition. The debate that will surely arise from this petition is health for the community. The decisions we will make are important. Do we truly place a value on having open space, clean streams, nearby agriculture? We need to choose wisely with a view toward what kind of community we leave our childern. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From wrolley at charter.net Tue Mar 14 08:22:27 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:22:27 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sunshine Law Message-ID: <4416EDC3.1080305@charter.net> I sent a previous note to this list concerning supporting the Mercury New's call for a sunshine law in San Jose. I would like this to result in an official resolution at the next County Meeting, April 4th. I will draft a text for such a resolution and post it on this list within the next 2 days. I would like a resident of San Jose to contact me about being a sponsor for this resolution at the meeting. Thanks. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From fredd at freeshell.org Tue Mar 14 12:12:28 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:12:28 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] a voice I happened across Message-ID: <441723AC.6070409@freeshell.org> "There is a general belief in the U.S. that you get the best approaches by polling large groups of people. That is the basic idea of democracy. There is also a general belief in the U.S. that society works well when everybody acts in their own self-interest. That is the basic idea of capitalism. Putting those two ideas together strikes me as rather risky. How do we avoid mob rule in which the majority exercises their self-interest as the expense of the minority? It seems that this classic problem of democracy is being exacerbated by an increasing devotion to capitalism. "Similarly, many people today argue that the freer the market, the better. But history shows clearly that a free market tends to lead to oligopoly or monopoly. Thus, a truly free market is unstable; you need outside intervention. Even Adam Smith saw this. Why has this been forgotten?" -- Ian Lance Taylor I'm just avoiding actual work this morning. Taylor is most well known for writing the Free Software Foundation's UUCP, a suite of network utilities for networks that are disconnected most of the time. Much of the world's email traveled over UUCP for several years, including mine. I switched from the corporate UUCP to Taylor's because Taylor's was better. The free software movement is full of classical (small L) libertarians. Cameron Thanks, Cameron, for the "small L." Fred _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From jims at greens.org Tue Mar 14 18:37:37 2006 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:37:37 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] ATTENTION PLEASE, (was Re: GPSCC Impeachment Resolution) References: <440F2A81.2020007@earthlink.net> <440F3C3E.2070001@earthlink.net> <441671A3.8010602@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <44177DF1.66B5DDD6@greens.org> yes -- Jim Gerry Gras wrote: > > The GPSCC approved the impeachment resolution CONDITIONAL > upon confirmation that Rumsfeld and Gonzales are impeachable. > I have been assuming that the question was "Are they impeachable > by Congress?" or more precisely, "Does Congress have the > authority to impeach them?". > > At this point, I believe that that question has been answered. > > So in the email below, I asked whether GPSCC members agree that > the condition for passing the resolution has been resolved. > I have received answers only from Tian, Wes, and Carol. > > I would appreciate more answers, especially from whoever > raised the point in the first place. > > I plan to go ahead with sending / delivering the resolution, > UNLESS I hear something to the contrary in the next 48 hours. > > ... > > Also, at this time I plan to hand deliver the resolution to > Anna Eshoo's office, and Tian has volunteered to accompany > me. Does anyone want to hand deliver the resolution to > the offices of Mike Honda, Zoe Lofgren, or Richard Pombo. > > Gerry > > Gerry Gras wrote: > > > > > Gerry Gras wrote: > > > > > >>Last night the GPSCC conditionally passed a revised Impeachment > >>Resolution last night. > >> > >>- "conditionally"? > >> There was some concern about whether Rumsfeld and Gonzalez > >> are in fact impeachable. It seems likely that they are, > >> but it needs to be verified. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have received an email from a member of the GP of > > Nevada County. > > > > It includes these 2 links: > > http://www.aclu.org/safefree/rumsfeld/index.html > > http://www.impeachbush.org > > > > The second one includes a letter from Ramsey Clark > > (former U.S. Attorney General) which specifically names > > the four individuals in our resolution. (And this is > > why Nevada County included those individuals.) > > > > Is this enough confirmation of their impeachability? > > > > Gerry > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From tnharter at greens.org Wed Mar 15 01:09:01 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:09:01 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mailing Party at Tians! In-Reply-To: <4415FB02.3010404@greens.org> References: <4415FB02.3010404@greens.org> Message-ID: <4417D9AD.8030906@greens.org> Tian Harter wrote: >I'm to the point now where I have to do a mailing >for my campaign. I would be very greatful for any >help this evening or tommorrow evening! > >Please let me know... > > > Thanks to Valerie and Jody, the project is 4/5ths done. If anybody can help tomorrow (Wednesday) during the day for about an hour or two that will probably finish the project. I have to go to a candidate forum in the evening, and I want to have it done by then. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The SOS website now says I'm qualified for the ballot! http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections_cand.htm Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 16 10:54:13 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:54:13 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling Saturday in Palo Alto Message-ID: <4419B455.3080400@sbcglobal.net> This is a call (last call) for volunteers to table at the Palo Alto Peace Rally on Saturday the 18-th. It begins at noon. Please contact me to let me know that you will table there next Saturday. Thus far one person has offered to table beginning at 3:45 (it starts at noon and I do not know how long it lasts) and one person offered to be an alternate. Also, one person who volunteered via the web site is also willing to table. However, that person needs to have an experienced tabler to share the duties. Would someone please step up to the task. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 16 11:03:33 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:03:33 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "241 mile march" - Sunday 3/26 in San Jose Message-ID: <4419B685.5080705@sbcglobal.net> Do we have a spanish speaking speaker, a bilingual speaker? Hi Jim- Thanks for the support and the $$$ donation. You can get details on the SBM website: http://www.sbm4peace.org. Would you like to have a speaker at the Rally? -D. *Sunday, March 26th, 8:00 am* */March & Rally for Peace / / /The Latino Community Says NO to War!* *8:00 am - March* *3:00 pm - Rally Download the flyer... *(113 KB) *Download the 2 page flyer with map ... *(404 KB) Click here for more information on this event ... *Full Page Flyers: English... *(191 KB)* Spanish... *(182 KB)* English & Spanish... * (2 pages)(370 KB) *8:00am -* *March: Alum Rock Rd & White Rd * *3:00pm -* *Rally : Backesto Park at 13th St & Empire St. * /*San Jos?, CA*/ / / ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > From: Jim Doyle > To: svtriathlete at hotmail.com > Subject: 241 mile march > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:27:41 -0800 > > David, > Has the route been laid out for San Jose? > If so, where can I find it? > > Some members of the Green Party are willing to march along > for a mile or two. > > Another possibility is for a way station with refreshments. > > Jim Doyle > Green Party of Santa Clara County > From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Mar 16 12:58:30 2006 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 1999: Diane Feinstein Message-ID: <8C8175383EA13D8-1354-2AF@MBLK-M40.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, Whenever I am asked how I feel today about registering with the California Green Party and supporting Ralph Nader in 2000, I always reply that *NOTHING* the Democratic Party leadership has done either in Washington or Sacramento these last six years has changed my very low opinion of the Democratic Party. This week Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) introduced a resolution to censure President Bush. California's senior DEMOCRATIC SENATOR -- the one who is also running for reelection this year -- and also the one the entire California Democratic Establishment pressured Cindy Sheehan not to challenge, is not supporting Feingold. Very well. Now read this little gem pasted below from the World Wide Web and then ask me again why I am a Green Party man. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Posted on the Blog: http://busybusybusy.com/b3_arc_06_0313.shtml#March13060130PM, March 13, 2006. A RESOLUTION INTRODUCE BY SENATOR DIANE FEINSTEIN FEBRUARY 12, 1999 Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) proposes a censure resolution in the United States Senate. Her target is the president. She does not flinch! And it must be over some really serious transgression, because the Senator's anger is palpable. Consider: * Whereas [the] president of the United States, deliberately misled and deceived the American people, and people in all branches of the United States government; * Whereas [the president's] conduct in this matter is unacceptable for a president of the United States, does demean the office of the president as well as the president himself, and creates disrespect for laws of the land; * Whereas [the president] fully deserves censure for engaging in such behavior; * Whereas future generations of Americans must know that such behavior is not only unacceptable but also bears grave consequences, including loss of integrity, trust and respect; Arg! In case you haven't figured this out yet, here's one more clue: * Whereas WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, president of the United States, engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate employee in the White House, which was shameful, reckless and indefensible; Yes, the year was 1999, the president was Bill Clinton and what he did with a woman not his wife was so odious that the Democratic Senator from California felt compelled to introduce a resolution to censure him over it. Now Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) has proposed a resolution to censure Mr. Bush for undermining the separation of powers and ignoring the rule of law. And Sen. Feinstein's office says she has taken no position on this resolution. Perhaps she needs time to ponder whether a Commander in Chief who violates the constitution is as deserving of censure as one who diddles a willing intern. Constituents who wish to remind Sen. Feinstein of her previous enthusiasm for presidential censure may contact her here (scroll to bottom). And her California colleague, the likewise undecided Sen. Barbara Boxer, might benefit from some voter input as well. Update: A Timing Note. Commenter markbernstein suggests that Sen. Feinstein's proposed censure resolution against President Clinton should not be held against her because it was offered as an alternative to impeachment. Alas, this was not the case. A completely different censure resolution proposed by House Judiciary Committee Democrats in early December 1998 was, in fact, intended to substitute for impeachment (it was voted down in committee). But the quotes above are from a resolution of censure Sen. Feinstein attempted to introduce on February 12, 1999, after President Clinton's impeachment had already ended in acquittal. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Mar 17 00:50:15 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:50:15 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSCC banner Message-ID: <441A7847.9020508@earthlink.net> Anyone know where the GPSCC banner is? It would be nice to have it in Palo Alto this Saturday. Gerry From fredd at freeshell.org Fri Mar 17 14:16:04 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:16:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 1999: Diane Feinstein Message-ID: <441B3524.8000200@freeshell.org> Cameron, Who submited this to the Sofsbay list? I don't disagee with it, but would like to know who wrote it. Thanks. Fred Who Dear Green Friends, Whenever I am asked how I feel today about registering with the California Green Party and supporting Ralph Nader in 2000, I always reply that *NOTHING* the Democratic Party leadership has done either in Washington or Sacramento these last six years has changed my very low opinion of the Democratic Party. This week Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis) introduced a resolution to censure President Bush. California's senior DEMOCRATIC SENATOR -- the one who is also running for reelection this year -- and also the one the entire California Democratic Establishment pressured Cindy Sheehan not to challenge, is not supporting Feingold. Very well. Now read this little gem pasted below from the World Wide Web and then ask me again why I am a Green Party man. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Posted on the Blog: http://busybusybusy.com/b3_arc_06_0313.shtml#March13060130PM, March 13, 2006. A RESOLUTION INTRODUCE BY SENATOR DIANE FEINSTEIN FEBRUARY 12, 1999 Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) proposes a censure resolution in the United States Senate. Her target is the president. She does not flinch! And it must be over some really serious transgression, because the Senator's anger is palpable. Consider: * Whereas [the] president of the United States, deliberately misled and deceived the American people, and people in all branches of the United States government; * Whereas [the president's] conduct in this matter is unacceptable for a president of the United States, does demean the office of the president as well as the president himself, and creates disrespect for laws of the land; * Whereas [the president] fully deserves censure for engaging in such behavior; * Whereas future generations of Americans must know that such behavior is not only unacceptable but also bears grave consequences, including loss of integrity, trust and respect; Arg! In case you haven't figured this out yet, here's one more clue: * Whereas WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, president of the United States, engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a subordinate employee in the White House, which was shameful, reckless and indefensible; Yes, the year was 1999, the president was Bill Clinton and what he did with a woman not his wife was so odious that the Democratic Senator from California felt compelled to introduce a resolution to censure him over it. Now Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) has proposed a resolution to censure Mr. Bush for undermining the separation of powers and ignoring the rule of law. And Sen. Feinstein's office says she has taken no position on this resolution. Perhaps she needs time to ponder whether a Commander in Chief who violates the constitution is as deserving of censure as one who diddles a willing intern. Constituents who wish to remind Sen. Feinstein of her previous enthusiasm for presidential censure may contact her here (scroll to bottom). And her California colleague, the likewise undecided Sen. Barbara Boxer, might benefit from some voter input as well. Update: A Timing Note. Commenter markbernstein suggests that Sen. Feinstein's proposed censure resolution against President Clinton should not be held against her because it was offered as an alternative to impeachment. Alas, this was not the case. A completely different censure resolution proposed by House Judiciary Committee Democrats in early December 1998 was, in fact, intended to substitute for impeachment (it was voted down in committee). But the quotes above are from a resolution of censure Sen. Feinstein attempted to introduce on February 12, 1999, after President Clinton's impeachment had already ended in acquittal. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From alexcathy at aol.com Sat Mar 18 15:38:20 2006 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:38:20 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 1999: Diane Feinstein In-Reply-To: <441B3524.8000200@freeshell.org> References: <441B3524.8000200@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <8C818FC2CB24DB9-1968-5758@mblk-d24.sysops.aol.com> The article about Feinstein was posted on the referenced BLOG. The comments about the California Green Party came from me. Alex Walker Milpitas, CA AlexCathy at aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Fred Duperrault To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:16:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 1999: Diane Feinstein Cameron, Who submited this to the Sofsbay list? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Sun Mar 19 07:27:14 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Dems fed up... References: Message-ID: <3DD2B6CB-D39B-48AC-95F7-904152030506@cagreens.org> Dear Molly, Gee, loved your diatribe, honey! Maybe we should run somebody who can yell the hell all the way to DC and REALLY scare the shit out of everybody ensconced there for a lifetime of freebies and perks that will continue until their death and the death of their spouses--how about that, Molly Ivins? Remember Ralph Nader? No one has come close to the upset he caused, even in 2004 with NO support from his supposed friends. Or is it too far out to avoid the usual pack of politicians--and that includes the sainted, useless Howard Dean? How about adding to your wish list of three issues a little beginning step called CENSURE that might finally lead to impeachment of the top dogs of war? Or do we lack the spine needed to face the criticisms about that one: "We don't have to go THAT FAR!" they chide. "Too extreme!" We don't want to be extremists, do we? I'm getting tired of the same ol', same ol'. Why are we once again (50-YEARS-AND-MORE LATER!!!) fighting the same old attacks on personal freedoms for women? civil rights for minorities? living wages for immigrants that we pay slave wages to? a secure social security for the aged and infirm? Why do we tolerate this same old bullshit over and over again? Why do we stand by meekly while our elected representatives vote on and pass bills that they NEVER even bother to read, like the PATRIOT Act, or while they give total authority to the executive branch to wage war--a power that belongs to the legislative branch--or refuse to support the black caucus who tried to get just ONE senator to allow them to have the last election just examined, investigated, just looked at to find out why so many irregularities existed? Why? I'm tired. I'm going to take care of myself from now on and stop wasting time fighting the same damn battles. It's time for me at 67 years of age and after 40 years of activism to leave this mess to the young (like the young professional women who didn't need women's liberation because they had it made, and like the progressives who didn't need the Nader organization because he was in danger of "becoming a Harold Stassen"). So, fine. Do it a new way. Do it your way. I'll be interested to see how far you get. And, really, good luck. Andrea From baalavi at yahoo.com Sun Mar 19 08:56:37 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:56:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeach & Criminally prosecute Message-ID: <20060319165637.94290.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com> This one is new to me. I hadn't seen it before. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815 This one was posted ( I might have done it) in the forum before -- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andi at wrytor.com Sat Mar 18 19:59:05 2006 From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:59:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [Alt-Media] Life-long Dems fed up with party] In-Reply-To: <441326A7.1020109@earthlink.net> References: <441326A7.1020109@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Dear Molly, Gee, loved your diatribe, honey! Maybe we should run somebody who can yell the hell all the way to DC and REALLY scare the shit out of everybody ensconced there for a lifetime of freebies and perks that will continue until their death and the death of their spouses--how about that, Molly Ivins? Remember Ralph Nader? No one has come close to the upset he caused, even in 2004 with NO support from his supposed friends. Or is it too far out to avoid the usual pack of politicians--and that includes the sainted, useless Howard Dean? How about adding to your wish list of three issues a little beginning step called CENSURE that might finally lead to impeachment of the top dogs of war? Or do we lack the spine needed to face the criticisms about that one: "We don't have to go THAT FAR!" they chide. "Too extreme!" We don't want to be extremists, do we? I'm getting tired of the same ol', same ol'. Why are we once again (50-YEARS-AND-MORE LATER!!!) fighting the same old attacks on personal freedoms for women? civil rights for minorities? living wages for immigrants that we pay slave wages to? a secure social security for the aged and infirm? Why do we tolerate this same old bullshit over and over again? Why do we stand by meekly while our elected representatives vote on and pass bills that they NEVER even bother to read, like the PATRIOT Act, or while they give total authority to the executive branch to wage war--a power that belongs to the legislative branch--or refuse to support the black caucus who tried to get just ONE senator to allow them to have the last election just examined, investigated, just looked at to find out why so many irregularities existed? Why? I'm tired. I'm going to take care of myself from now on and stop wasting time fighting the same damn battles. It's time for me at 67 years of age and after 40 years of activism to leave this mess to the young (like the young professional women who didn't need women's liberation because they had it made, and like the progressives who didn't need the Nader organization because he was in danger of "becoming a Harold Stassen"). So, fine. Do it a new way. Do it your way. I'll be interested to see how far you get. And, really, good luck. Andrea On Mar 11, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Alt-Media] Life-long Dems fed up with party > Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:09:10 -0800 > From: News and views from an alternative perspective > > Reply-To: alt-media-owner at cagreens.org > To: alt-media at cagreens.org > References: <20060310233610.61590.qmail at web81608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > > Enough of the D.C. Dems > > by Molly Ivins > > (The Progressive, March 2006) -- Mah fellow progressives, now is the > time for all good men and women to come to the aid of the party. I > don't know about you, but I have had it with the D.C. Democrats, had > it with the DLC Democrats, had it with every calculating, > equivocating, triangulating, straddling, hair-splitting son of a > bitch up there, and that includes Hillary Rodham Clinton. > > I will not be supporting Senator Clinton because: a) she has no > clear stand on the war and b) Terri Schiavo and flag-burning are not > issues where you reach out to the other side and try to split the > difference. You want to talk about lowering abortion rates through > cooperation on sex education and contraception, fine, but don't jack > with stuff that is pure right-wing firewater. > > I can't see a damn soul in D.C. except Russ Feingold who is even > worth considering for president. The rest of them seem to me so > poisonously in hock to this system of legalized bribery they can't > even see straight. > > Look at their reaction to this Abramoff scandal. They're talking > about "a lobby reform package." We don't need a lobby reform package, > you dimwits, we need full public financing of campaigns, and every > single one of you who spends half your time whoring after special > interest contributions knows it. > > The Abramoff scandal is a once in a lifetime gift ? a perfect lesson > on what's wrong with the system being laid out for people to see. Run > with it, don't mess around with little patches, and fix the system. > > As usual, the Democrats have forty good issues on their side and > want to run on thirty-nine of them. Here are three they should > stick to: > > 1) Iraq is making terrorism worse; it's a breeding ground. We need to > extricate ourselves as soon as possible. We are not helping the > Iraqis by staying. > > 2) Full public financing of campaigns so as to drive the moneylenders > from the halls of Washington. > > 3) Single-payer health insurance. > > Every Democrat I talk to is appalled at the sheer gutlessness and > spinelessness of the Democratic performance. The party is still > cringing at the thought of being called, ooh-ooh, "unpatriotic" by a > bunch of right-wingers. > > Take "unpatriotic" and shove it. How dare they do this to our > country? "Unpatriotic"? These people have ruined the American > military! Not to mention the economy, the middle class, and our > reputation in the world. Everything they touch turns to dirt, > including Medicare prescription drugs and hurricane relief. > > This is not a time for a candidate who will offend no one; it is > time for a candidate who takes clear stands and kicks ass. > > Who are these idiots talking about [running Sen. John] Warner of > Virginia? Being anodyne is not sufficient qualification for being > president. And if there's nobody in Washington and we can't find a > Democratic governor, let's run Bill Moyers, or Oprah, or some > university president with ethics and charisma. > > What happens now is not up to the has-beens in Washington who run > this party. It is up to us. So let's get off our butts and start > building a progressive movement that can block the nomination of > Hillary Clinton or any other candidate who supposedly has "all the > money sewed up." > > I am tired of having the party nomination decided before the first > primary vote is cast, tired of having the party beholden to the same > old establishment money. > > We can raise our own money on the Internet, and we know it. Howard > Dean raised $42 million, largely on the web, with a late start when > he was running for president, and that ain't chicken feed. If we > double it, it gives us the lock on the nomination. So let's go find a > good candidate early and organize the shit out of our side. > > > _______________________________________________ > Alt-Media news list > News and views from an alternative perspective > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/alt-media > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andi at wrytor.com Sat Mar 18 20:02:55 2006 From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:02:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPoSCC Meeting--Open Space Init In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20060312202600.04755fc8@igc.org> References: <7.0.0.16.2.20060312202600.04755fc8@igc.org> Message-ID: <265A9E71-3E82-49A5-A83E-9964FB658F8C@wrytor.com> The so-called hillside area (where I live) has been scheduled for annexation to San Jose since 2000. It hasn't happened yet. We in the hills above Milpitas are technically in the county with cheaper county taxes. Andrea On Mar 12, 2006, at 8:28 PM, Carol Brouillet wrote: > > Notes from the Green Party of Santa Clara County meeting of March > 7, 2006 > > Tian --Facilitator > Carol- Note-taker > Fred - Timekeeper > Dana Vibes Watcher > > Open Space Initiative Intro -- Peter > Drekmeier, recently elected to the Palo Alto City > Council. Over 3 years, environmentalists have > been working on it. New For Santa Clara > ?protect open space in a very fair way. Only > covers Ranch/unincorporated land/large scale agriculture. > Reduces the amount of development that you can do. > Special protection for scenic views, > riparian corridors, sensitive habitat. Lots of support. > No cost to voters. > We need 52,000 signatures. More info at www.OpenSpace2006.org > Warner proposed to endorse the initiative. > Seconded. Was concerned about the > loophole. City can annex land, but we can battle > that. Groups can enforce it and sue. > > April 29 and 30 -- Next Plenary, Ventura County. We need > delegates. > Warner > volunteered to be delegate, Gerry volunteered to > be alternate. Will be candidate forum. > Big item will be the budget. > > Planning Meeting not done. > > Jim Doyle gathered signatures. > Gerry Gras gathered signatures for County Council elections > No change yet on meeting date > > 3/18 Peace Events -- SF Rally, Palo Alto > 3/25 Saturday, 6:00 a.m. Peace March SwiftSmartVeterans.com > San Jose endorsing the march > Donate $100 towards food and water. Roy and Jim > contacts > > 3/19 Mountain View Voices for Peace -- Mountain View City > Plaza 12-5 > They will read the names of those who have died. > > Buttons not many left-- Jim Doyle could make them. 2-1/2? circles > needs artwork > > 4/22 San Jose State Earth Day > Junior Statesmen of America > We need a Treasurer > We need a Regional Rep. Mitch Smith is the > only candidate, with Gerry as alternate > > Impeachment Resolution > --- Press Release, Media list passed > > Tuesday April 4th- next meeting > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 20 11:07:44 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:07:44 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] upcoming march and rally Sunday 3/26 Message-ID: <441EFD80.8050008@sbcglobal.net> Fernando Suarez del Solar, Pablo Paredes, Camilo Mejia, Aiden Delgado will be leading a march through Latino Neighborhoods of San Jose on Sunday March 26-th followed by a rally in Backesto Park. The march begins at 8 am at Alum Rock Avenue and White Road in San Jose. At the March business meeting there was interest in a) marching - at least part of the way b) tabling at the rally c) providing refreshments to the marchers along the way for which an expenditure of $100 was authorized. The flyer which contains more information and a map of the march route can be found at http://southbaymobilization.org/ which also lists the Green Party as a sponsor So, who wants to march with them? at least part of the way? who will help table at some location midway along the route? who will table at the rally? Please let me know, and early if you can. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From tnharter at greens.org Mon Mar 20 12:31:15 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:31:15 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Photos of greens marching in Palo Alto Message-ID: <441F1113.7050400@greens.org> I didn't notice the healine on the front page of the PADN until Larry Bensky started his speech by mentioning it. You can see that by visiting: http://tian.greens.org The conspiricy theorist in me got a giggle out of the fact the author of the story was a "GREEN". You can click that or visit: http://tian.greens.org/PaloAlto/March4Iraq3/index.html To see my pictures of various people I saw. I didn't devote much space to the speakers because they didn't let me on the stage "because it might jepordise our 501.c.3 status". (That's what they told me anyhow.) -- Tian http://tianharter.org I now have great campaign stickers. See one at the above URL. Email me where to send it if you want one. Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From baalavi at yahoo.com Mon Mar 20 19:05:28 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:05:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How to become a republican :) Message-ID: <20060321030528.40588.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com> The title may be misleading. Check this out. If you didn't fall off your chair laughing, I'll buy you one of Fred's Posters on his special day. http://www.thefrown.com/frowners/becomerepublican.swf I loved the "moral thermometer" :)) :))))))) :))))))))))) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Mar 20 19:41:12 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:41:12 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Letter to the editor Message-ID: <441F75D8.4090304@charter.net> Today, I submitted the following to the Pinnacle News, a weekly that reaches all of the South County and all of San Benito County. It covers Morgan Hill and those rural areas with Gilroy addresses that lie within the 11th Congressional District. There is a call going out for Democrats, Libertarians and Greens to re-register as Decline to State and to vote for McCloskey in the Republican Primary. It will take that to make it happen. However, this letter clearly states why I think that McCloskey is the one to take out Pombo. __ In the game of politics, there are players and there are poseurs. Richard Pombo has proved himself to be a poseur. Unfortunately, in recent years, the poseurs have gained the ascendency. On his congressional web site, Pombo says that ""I will continue to fight to uphold the promises made to our servicemen. I have proudly and consistently voted in favor of legislation that would improve the lives of their families. I will fight to keep the promise." The facts are otherwise. On every single occasion since the start of the Iraq war, when Pombo has had the opportunity to vote for the interests of veterans, especially on health care and improved medical treatment, he has voted against the interests of veterans and for some mythological smaller government budget. He even voted against an ammendment that would have provide for better prosthetic devices for those he litteraly give a part of themselves in the service of our country. This vote, on May 25, 2005 was over just $30 Million that he could not find it in he heart to spend for our veterans. That is why the Disabled American Veterans have given him a zero rating on votes since the Iraq war started. He voted against veterans every single time. The person who brought this to my attention was Pete McCloskey. He is running against Pombo in the Republican Primary. Pete is a true veteran. He was honored with a Silver Star and a Navy Cross earned as a Marine in Korea. He is the only candidate in this race, Democrat or Republican who will stand up for veterans. I just want every parent to know, that if you have to send your son or daughter to Iraq, that Congress Pombo voted against their getting the best health care possible if they should need it. I have become a partisan in this race. I will support McCloskey as long as he is still in the hunt. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Tue Mar 21 09:30:22 2006 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:30:22 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How to become a republican :) Message-ID: It's a propaganda piece for the Democrat party. It puts out the lie that the Dems are the opposition and the alternative. Nothing funny about that. Cameron From andid at cagreens.org Tue Mar 21 13:07:33 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:07:33 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Photos of greens In-Reply-To: <441F1113.7050400@greens.org> References: <441F1113.7050400@greens.org> Message-ID: <420E20D4-134F-4801-AF06-78A4F5A2FE01@cagreens.org> On Mar 20, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > I didn't notice the healine on the front page of the PADN until > Larry Bensky started his speech by mentioning it. You can see > that by visiting: > > http://tian.greens.org > > The conspiricy theorist in me got a giggle out of the fact the > author of the story was a "GREEN". You can click that or visit: > > http://tian.greens.org/PaloAlto/March4Iraq3/index.html > > To see my pictures of various people I saw. I didn't devote > much space to the speakers because they didn't let me on > the stage "because it might jepordise our 501.c.3 status". > (That's what they told me anyhow.) > You're a dangerous man, Tian, now that you're running for office! ;- )) Andrea > -- > Tian > http://tianharter.org > I now have great campaign stickers. See one at the above URL. > Email me where to send it if you want one. > Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From andid at cagreens.org Tue Mar 21 13:09:51 2006 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:09:51 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Letter to the editor In-Reply-To: <441F75D8.4090304@charter.net> References: <441F75D8.4090304@charter.net> Message-ID: <0808690D-38F1-4749-BD87-EB1DA1AC942E@cagreens.org> Wes, You are doing a phenomenal job with this blogging and op-ed writing! Absolutely amazing work! You have somehow found an opening or a wedge into the media and using it beautifully. Keep it up-- You are great, Wes! Andrea On Mar 20, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > Today, I submitted the following to the Pinnacle News, a weekly that > reaches all of the South County and all of San Benito County. It > covers > Morgan Hill and those rural areas with Gilroy addresses that lie > within > the 11th Congressional District. There is a call going out for > Democrats, Libertarians and Greens to re-register as Decline to State > and to vote for McCloskey in the Republican Primary. It will take > that > to make it happen. However, this letter clearly states why I think > that > McCloskey is the one to take out Pombo. > > __ > > In the game of politics, there are players and there are poseurs. > Richard Pombo has proved himself to be a poseur. Unfortunately, in > recent years, the poseurs have gained the ascendency. > > On his congressional web site, Pombo says that ""I will continue to > fight to uphold the promises made to our > servicemen. I have proudly and consistently voted in favor of > legislation that would improve the lives of their families. I will > fight > to keep the promise." > > The facts are otherwise. On every single occasion since the start > of the > Iraq war, when Pombo has had the opportunity to vote for the interests > of veterans, especially on health care and improved medical treatment, > he has voted against the interests of veterans and for some > mythological > smaller government budget. He even voted against an ammendment that > would have provide for better prosthetic devices for those he > litteraly > give a part of themselves in the service of our country. This vote, on > May 25, 2005 was over just $30 Million that he could not find it in he > heart to spend for our veterans. That is why the Disabled American > Veterans have given him a zero rating on votes since the Iraq war > started. He voted against veterans every single time. > > The person who brought this to my attention was Pete McCloskey. He is > running against Pombo in the Republican Primary. Pete is a true > veteran. > He was honored with a Silver Star and a Navy Cross earned as a > Marine in > Korea. He is the only candidate in this race, Democrat or > Republican who > will stand up for veterans. I just want every parent to know, that if > you have to send your son or daughter to Iraq, that Congress Pombo > voted > against their getting the best health care possible if they should > need it. > > I have become a partisan in this race. I will support McCloskey as > long > as he is still in the hunt. > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you > don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > http://www.refpub.com/ > Tel: 408.778.3024 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org > http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 21 13:10:00 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:10:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 3 26 march and rally (2) Message-ID: <44206BA8.1010607@sbcglobal.net> 1 response so far. Fernando Suarez del Solar, Pablo Paredes, Camilo Mejia, Aiden Delgado will be leading a march through Latino Neighborhoods of San Jose on Sunday March 26-th followed by a rally in Backesto Park. The march begins at 8 am at Alum Rock Avenue and White Road in San Jose. At the March business meeting there was interest in a) marching - at least part of the way b) tabling at the rally c) providing refreshments to the marchers along the way for which an expenditure of $100 was authorized. The flyer which contains more information and a map of the march route can be found at http://southbaymobilization.org/ which also lists the Green Party as a sponsor So, who wants to march with them? at least part of the way? who will help table at some location midway along the route? who will table at the rally? Please let me know, and early if you can. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 21 21:56:49 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:56:49 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] media events at Sunday's march Message-ID: <4420E721.2020704@sbcglobal.net> I have received the following two information items from one of the organisers of next Sunday's march: 1) This is on the website map, but we will be having 3 Media Stops along the Route. Two at the Mexican Heritage Plaza, the 1st approx. 9am, and the 3rd approx. 2pm. The 2nd Media Stop is at the Military Recruiters offices on Mckee Rd. approx. 10:30am, near Jackson Ave. Our lunch break will be on Jackson Ave. approx 12noon at the Jalisco Taqueria. If you can't do the march, come to the Media Stops! We can turn it into a mini Rally! Spread the word and make some noise! Those are opportunities to be seen. Who would like to be there? Let me know. 2) One thing that would be so cool is a Green Party coffee table at the 7am-7:45 breakfast. Just regular coffee, sugar, cups, milk, etc. We are preparing a breakfast in the parking lot (which is empty on the weekends) for the 241 mile marchers only. At this time there are 20 coming from the Watsonville march on Saturday. I cannot predict how many locals will walk the 15 miles, but right now I will guesstimate maybe 15. So coffee for all would be great if you have the coffee dispensers and could make it in the morning. Just a thought. Are there any early birds among you who would like to make coffee? If so, let me know. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 22 12:44:26 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:44:26 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Regional Rep Election] Message-ID: <4421B72A.8070203@earthlink.net> So far there is only one candidate for Regional Rep, (Mitch Smith), and one candidate for Alternate Rep, (myself). If anyone is interested in running for either position, please announce it ASAP. NOTE: If anyone would like to run, but is concerned about offending me, don't be. I would welcome more candidates. NOTE: The CC does allow multiple alternates from a Region. For a while the North Bay had a Rep, a 1st Alternate, and a 2nd Alternate. Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Regional Rep Election Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:16:58 -0800 From: Gerry Gras To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org My term as Regional Rep to the GPCA CC ends at the next plenary, 2 months from now. The default mode of deciding this is for it to be decided at the plenary. But that limits the decision to those who attend the plenary, which is not local. So it is prudent to decide the matter earlier, at GPSCC and GPSMC meetings, or at a joint GPSCC/GPSMC meeting in the region. Unfortunately the process for revising our bylaws re Regional Rep Election has been moving at a very slow pace, and won't be ready in time for this election. Now is the time for potential candidates to consider running. And for those who wish to run, to announce ASAP. I have had the position for 2 terms, which means for four years. I think it is time for a change, for the region and for myself. I am willing and happy to run for Alternate Regional Rep, but I would like to see someone else be the next Regional Rep. If anyone would like to talk to me about this, you are welcome to call me at 408-732-6701 between 9 AM and 11 PM. Unfortunately I have not yet replaced my broken answering machine. Gerry P.S. I am sending this email to both the sosfbay-discuss list and the gpsmc-cc list separately, to avoid cross posting. I am not using the SC-SM list because I believe this should go to a wider audience. _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From wrolley at charter.net Wed Mar 22 13:50:26 2006 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:50:26 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change Message-ID: <4421C6A2.8030102@charter.net> I said that I would find out what my mayor has done re: the US Mayors Conference Resolution on Climate Change. Here is the response from Dennis Kennedy, Mayor of Morgan Hill. I wonder what that very lame lame duck name Gonzales did in San Jose. __ Dear Wes, Thanks for your email. In answer to your question about what the City has done to fulfill our agreement: 1) All of our recent public facilities (aquatics center, indoor rec center, library), are required to comply with "LEEDS" green buildings standards. 2) Received the California RDA award for the Granary project, (partly funded by RDA), for leadership in green building designation. 3) Actively supported pedestrian and bicycle programs throughout the city in an effort to make us a "walkable, liveable community". Dennis -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley http://www.refpub.com/ Tel: 408.778.3024 From tnharter at greens.org Wed Mar 22 17:08:01 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:08:01 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Strategies for Living in an Energy-Poor Society Message-ID: <4421F4F1.7000800@greens.org> > *>Eric E. Sabelman, Ph.D. * > *>Strategies for Living in an Energy-Poor Society* > > >Eric E. Sabelman is the founder of Pro-Zooics Research, which has been >engaged in biomedical design & consulting since 1979. Dr. Sabelman has >been on the core staff of the VA Palo Alto Rehabilitation R&D Center, where >he investigated wearable computers for human body motion analysis, acute >spinal cord injury patient care, and tissue engineering for nerve repair and >reconstructive surgery. He is an Adjunct Lecturer in Mechanical Engineering >at Santa Clara University, affiliated with the Biodesign Program at Stanford, >and has recently begun work at Kaiser Permanente on Deep Brain Stimulation >for treatment of Parkinson's Disease. He has been involved in appropriate >energy technology since the early 1970s, when he was a member of the >Santa Clara Solar Research Institute. > >Eric will present case histories in early industrial energy production and >transmission (with a focus on Shaker communities), propose future strategies >at the (1) neighborhood, (2) community, (3) regional and (4) national scales, >and comment on why cooperative solutions rather than "individual" scale >strategies may result in less hardship in an energy poor society. > Eric began his talk by explaining that a lot of things we thought would be automated long ago weren't because "a chocolate bar is a very portable and flexible energy source." Then he postulated that looking into the future our current energy use rates are unsustainable, and the cost of energy to end users will rise. As a result of this, cars and many other things we take for granted now will be seen as luxuries. He then offered some basic principals for saving energy. They included "only using enough energy to do the job", "don't use high-grade energy for low-grade jobs" (Meaning for example, if riding a bike will do the job, don't import oil to do it.), "use waste energy when possible" (E.G>: use heat from generating electricity to warm greenhouses), "avoid multiple transformations" (converting from one form to another costs a percentage of the input energy), and "use your own muscles". Eric showed us a number of books that were written back in the '70s whose authors had done much work figuring out individual level solutions. He pointed out that individual scale strategies fith the American image of self-reliance, but burden us with piecemeal solutions to collective problems. "Cooperation leads to solutions imposing less hardship" was the message he wanted us to remember. The Shakers (a more extreme group than the Quakers that came out of the same tradition) developed a lot of ways to get things done with little energy, living as they did in small isolated communities without fossil fuels. They invented such things as the screw propeller, turbine water wheel, clothes pin, flat broom, and circular saw blade to make their energy resources go further. They made money by selling plant seeds in packets to the wider community, and to some extent still do that today. Eric proposes neighborhood ride sharing coops based on the model of a baby-sitting coop his family was in. The strategy works for groups that live within a half mile radius (or bigger if there are more than 50 members). People join by putting up $100 for a 200 person-mile credit. After that the coordinator would match them with cars or riders going in their direction when possible. Giving rides gives someone more person-mile credits, and taking rides deducts from their balance. Exceptions are developed into rule categories as they become evident through people's habits and what is fair. The coordinator's job rotates between members; a set number of credits are given after completing a month's work. The coop should have an annual picnic, just to keep everybody on the same page socially. The last part of the talk was a reminder that there are lots of other ways to save energy out there. He mentioned briefly things like Palo Alto's green energy program and "on demand bus routing". Eric urged us all to make an ongoing project of finding strategies that work to make expensive forms of energy less necessary. -- Tian http://tianharter.org I am proud to report that Bradley University (where I went to school) has made it to the NCAA Sweet Sixteen. It's been years since the last time I heard the Braves mentioned on my radio. Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 22 21:12:29 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:12:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sunday 3-26 march and rally Message-ID: <44222E3D.3060804@sbcglobal.net> We still helpers for this event. Please contact Jim Doyle. Fernando Suarez del Solar, Pablo Paredes, Camilo Mejia, Aiden Delgado will be leading a march through Latino Neighborhoods of San Jose on Sunday March 26-th followed by a rally in Backesto Park. The march begins at 8 am at Alum Rock Avenue and White Road in San Jose. We will be having 3 Media Stops along the Route. Two at the Mexican Heritage Plaza, the 1st approx. 9am, and the 3rd approx. 2pm. The 2nd Media Stop is at the Military Recruiters offices on Mckee Rd. approx. 10:30am, near Jackson Ave. Our lunch break will be on Jackson Ave. approx 12noon at the Jalisco Taqueria. If you can't do the march, come to the Media Stops! We can turn it into a mini Rally! Spread the word and make some noise! At the March business meeting there was interest in a) marching - at least part of the way b) tabling at the rally c) providing refreshments to the marchers along the way for which an expenditure of $100 was authorized. The flyer which contains more information and a map of the march route can be found at http://southbaymobilization.org/ which also lists the Green Party as a sponsor So, who wants to march with them? at least part of the way? who will help table at some location midway along the route? who will table at the rally? Please let me know, and early if you can. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 22 22:39:55 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:39:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Dare to Win" Message-ID: <442242BB.307@earthlink.net> Here is an article, that I think merits Green attention, about how some progressives sabotage their own campaigns, and suggestions about how to do better. This is adressed to all progressives, but ... The first 2 links are to Green candidates, Pat LaMarche in Maine and Bob Fitrakis in Ohio, both running for Governor. And there is a link to the 10KV on the GPUS site. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0322-25.htm Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 23 11:54:11 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:54:11 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] reminder: march and rally Sunday Message-ID: <4422FCE3.3030204@sbcglobal.net> Whereas there are not many early risers available, I ask who will table in the park Sunday afternoon beginning at 3 pm and who would like to show up at sponsored media events say for example in a Green Party T-shirt? We still need helpers for these events. Please contact Jim Doyle. (408) 269-3299 Fernando Suarez del Solar, whose son was killed, Pablo Paredes, who refused to go to Iraq, Camilo Mejia, and Aiden Delgado who served one tour in Iraq and refused a second tour, will be leading a march through Latino Neighborhoods of San Jose on Sunday March 26-th followed by a rally in Backesto Park. The march begins at 8 am at Alum Rock Avenue and White Road in San Jose. There will be 3 Media Stops along the Route. Two at the Mexican Heritage Plaza, the 1st approx. 9am, and the 3rd approx. 2pm. The 2nd Media Stop is at the Military Recruiters offices on Mckee Rd. approx. 10:30am, near Jackson Ave. Our lunch break will be on Jackson Ave. approx 12noon at the Jalisco Taqueria. If you can't do the march, come to the Media Stops! We can turn it into a mini Rally! Spread the word and make some noise! At the March business meeting there was interest in a) marching - at least part of the way b) tabling at the rally c) providing refreshments to the marchers along the way for which an expenditure of $100 was authorized. That will be used to help feed the main cadre of marchers at the end of the march. The flyer which contains more information and a map of the march route can be found at http://southbaymobilization.org/ which also lists the Green Party as a sponsor So, who wants to march with them? at least part of the way? who will help table at some location midway along the route? who will table at the rally? Please let me know, and early if you can. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 23 12:00:16 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:00:16 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] march and rally 3-26 typo Message-ID: <4422FE50.8030208@sbcglobal.net> The march starts at Alum Rock Avenue and White Road. The Mexican Heritage Plaza is at Alum Rock Avenue and King Road. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Mar 23 13:31:49 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:31:49 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Request for Agenda Items Message-ID: <442313C5.6020004@earthlink.net> Please submit your agenda items for Tuesday April 4's meeting. I would appreciate it if you would include time estimate(s) and presenter(s). Thanks, Gerry P.S. There has been a discussion on the GPCA CC list about when agendas should be sent to the committees. I won't go into details, but it led me to think about the issue. At the moment it seems to me appropriate for me to send out the GPSCC agenda one week before the meeting. Comments welcome. From MARKETPOIN at aol.com Thu Mar 23 20:22:35 2006 From: MARKETPOIN at aol.com (MARKETPOIN at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:22:35 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Wants to Get Involved - Santa clara law student Message-ID: <21b.a2745c0.3154ce0b@aol.com> In a message dated 3/23/2006 7:53:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, ramon.jimenez at gmail.com writes: > To Whom It May Concern: > > I am a first year law student who is wants to get involved in this next year > election cycle. Could you let me know where I can get involved in anyway. > > > > Ramon Jimenez > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Ramon Jimenez" Subject: Santa clara law student Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:52:59 -0800 Size: 2414 URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 23 20:24:09 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:24:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sunday March and Rally Message-ID: <44237469.1030606@sbcglobal.net> The event is open ended. You can do any one part or any portion of one part. Table only, media stop only, march 1/4 mile, 1/2 half mile, last 1/4 mile, last 1/2 mile, etc.. Two people have agreed to table in the park. One of whom will also try to be at a media stop. If we get two more volunteers we can have another table at one of the media stops. Whereas there are not many early risers available, I ask who will table in the park Sunday afternoon beginning at 3 pm and who would like to show up at sponsored media events say for example in a Green Party T-shirt? We still need helpers for these events. Please contact Jim Doyle. (408) 269-3299 Fernando Suarez del Solar, whose son was killed, Pablo Paredes, who refused to go to Iraq, Camilo Mejia, and Aiden Delgado who served one tour in Iraq and refused a second tour, will be leading a march through Latino Neighborhoods of San Jose on Sunday March 26-th followed by a rally in Backesto Park. The march begins at 8 am at Alum Rock Avenue and White Road in San Jose. There will be 3 Media Stops along the Route. Two at the Mexican Heritage Plaza, the 1st approx. 9am, and the 3rd approx. 2pm. The 2nd Media Stop is at the Military Recruiters offices on Mckee Rd. approx. 10:30am, near Jackson Ave. Our lunch break will be on Jackson Ave. approx 12noon at the Jalisco Taqueria. If you can't do the march, come to the Media Stops! We can turn it into a mini Rally! Spread the word and make some noise! At the March business meeting there was interest in a) marching - at least part of the way b) tabling at the rally c) providing refreshments to the marchers along the way for which an expenditure of $100 was authorized. That will be used to help feed the main cadre of marchers at the end of the march. The flyer which contains more information and a map of the march route can be found at http://southbaymobilization.org/ which also lists the Green Party as a sponsor So, who wants to march with them? at least part of the way? who will help table at some location midway along the route? who will table at the rally? Please let me know, and early if you can. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From fredd at freeshell.org Sat Mar 25 11:08:25 2006 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:08:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Sanders for U.S. Senate] Message-ID: <44259529.8070201@freeshell.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Sanders for U.S. Senate Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:50:25 -0800 From: Fred Duperrault To: sosfbay-discus at cagreens.org If you are planning a budget for political donations this year, please consider a donation to the only Independent Candidate for the U.S. Senate, Bernie Sanders. He's running against a wealthy Republican who has pledged $5 Million of his own money to his campaign. Sanders, of Vermont, is currently the only Independent in the House. He's the only 3rd "party' legislator in Congress. Check out: / www.bernie.org Fred Duperrault / -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinkgreen at threeparty.org Sun Mar 26 10:48:40 2006 From: thinkgreen at threeparty.org (Roy) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:48:40 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Re: Tuesday Planning] In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20060326101956.01af8f90@mailhost.cwnet.com> References: <3.0.32.20060326101956.01af8f90@mailhost.cwnet.com> Message-ID: <4426E208.2070004@threeparty.org> > As I've said, the key to getting coverage - something progressives often > fail to do and then blame on "corporate" media (falsely in most cases, by > the way) - is giving the media something to cover. Uh..now you've pushed some buttons. You should have seen the lack of coverage when Nader or Kucinich came to town and the media was absolutely notified. The lack of coverage was a self fulfilling policy and Nader even in light of the fact that he certainly was controversial enough to cover...and of course if they did it was ONLY in the context of spoiler. I do agree though that in some cases it is the lack of effort on behalf of the progressives. That's why a few years ago we tried to form a media outreach program in Santa Clara and we are in the midst of creating a progressive media group that will create programs that represent progressive ideas and challenge the status quo Ultimately if you think the media is just a lumbering monolith that needs prodding to get the "word" out I would call that quite optimistic. Not a view I share but on the sunniest of days. By the way to all, Andrea I were included in this thread since there seems to be a desire to look at the possibility of doing our own video on this. I've got a pending (unconfirmed) event to shoot that day so at the moment my answer would be I can't. However if Andrea (or I) can do this, what would you (Gerry?) do with it? Paz Roy. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Mar 27 01:08:55 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:08:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Delivery of Impeachment Resolution Message-ID: <4427ABA7.3050200@earthlink.net> FYI, On Tuesday at 11:00 AM, I will be hand delivering the GPSCC impeachment resolution to Anna Eshoo's office. Tian Harter and Carol Brouillet will be there as well. The media will be invited. Everyone is welcome. Gerry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: resolution-9 Type: application/text Size: 4022 bytes Desc: not available URL: From workoutwellforall at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 02:42:52 2006 From: workoutwellforall at gmail.com (Christian Pecaut) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:42:52 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] TUES, 11am, Palo Alto, Present Impeachment Resolution to Anna Eshoo and DEMAND WE BE HEARD In-Reply-To: <20060327031544.bd89ab4226881690f8896c74ea8f4bf1.a8e7942cb6.wbe@email.email.secureserver.net> References: <20060327031544.bd89ab4226881690f8896c74ea8f4bf1.a8e7942cb6.wbe@email.email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <58f8ab140603270242na380870j5d9d68030d28e4b5@mail.gmail.com> Greetings Greens, Friends, Activists, and Companeros, JOIN US! -- DEMAND IMPEACHMENT! On Tuesday, March 28th, at 11am we will present Congresswoman Anna Eshoo with the Green Party of Santa Clara County's recently passed Impeachment Resolution, and demand she immediately, and PUBLICLY support all existing impeachment activity in the House of Representatives. Anna Eshoo's Office 698 Emerson Street Downtown Palo Alto MAP : http://tinyurl.com/ljn9s This weekend MILLIONS took to the streets in California to stop the war, and roll back the reactionary immigrations policies encouraged by the bullies in power. We cannot let her ignore the TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans who demand the impeachment of the criminal Bush administration and their immediate removal from power. It looks like she's loyal FIRST to her Republican CIA buddies in the House Permanent Select Committee on (Anti-)Intelligence, and THEN to the demands of her constituents. The thugs in the spy agencies and Bush administration sure appreciate her co-sponsorship of the Intelligence Transformation Act, which expanded and re-organized their harmful and manipulative operations under the Spook Czar, John Negroponte, a notorious facilitator of human rights abuses in Honduras and Iraq. NO MORE! GREEN PARTY LEADS ON IMPEACHMENT Please read the impeachment resolution below, which the Green Party of Santa Clara County passed at their last monthly meeting (next one coming up Tues, April 4th, http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/). Carol Brouillet joins the Santa Clara County Greens and demands the immediate impeachment of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Gonzalez (to begin with...) for the rap sheet of intolerable crimes enumerated below. On Tuesday morning, at 11am, outside Anna Eshoo's office (698 Emerson Street, Downtown Palo Alto), we will bring our voices [with a speaker system], our hearts, some cookies, and copies of the Impeachment Resolution to her door and DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. We hope to see you there! Carol Brouillet for Congress "Impeach the Terrorists!" "Vote Green for Peace" www.carolforcongress.org MEDIA CONTACT: Christian Pecaut, 415-573-5655, christian at carolforcongress.org -- A RESOLUTION OF THE GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA in defense of the Constitution of the United States demanding the impeachment of George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney and two complicit associates. Whereas the Declaration of Independence declares securing "unalienable Rights" including "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" to be the purpose of government and Whereas the Constitution of the United States establishes the firm foundation for our rule of law and its Bill of Rights provides for the precious individual rights and freedoms guaranteed to all American citizens, Whereas, in the conduct of their offices, President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, in violation of their constitutional oaths to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" and to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed," have committed any or all of the following "high Crimes and Misdemeanors:" 1. WARRANTLESS SEARCHES: ordering the National Security Agency to conduct secret warrantless searches and seizures of the private personal communications of American citizens, without oversight by the legislative or judicial branches of the government, in violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of the Congress (FISA 1978); 2. TORTURE: authorizing and permitting torture against human beings, in violation of the Geneva Conventions (1864-1949) and the United Nations? Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (1985); 3. INDEFINITE DETENTION: depriving American citizens of their constitutionally guaranteed rights regarding unjust imprisonment and speedy and public trial, in violation of their rights to guaranteed liberty and due process of law in the 5th and 6th Amendments; 4. WAR OF AGGRESSION: launching an illegal, unjust and undeclared war against the sovereign state of Iraq, in violation of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution and Chapters 1, 6, and 7 of the Charter of the United Nations (1945); 5. USE OF ILLEGAL WEAPONS: authorizing the use of illegal chemical and radioactive weapons in military campaigns, notably white phosphorous and depleted uranium in Iraq, in violation of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR 1948); 6. DELIBERATE DECEPTIONS: repeatedly, consciously, and with forethought, lying to the American people and the U.S. Congress by providing false and deceptive rationales for an unjustified and illegal war in Iraq, obstructing justice by destroying evidence, and covering up the truth about the 9-11 attacks; 7. ATTACKING CIVILIANS: authorizing, ordering, and condoning direct military attacks on civilians and civilian homes and communities, thereby causing widespread death, maiming and destruction in Iraq, in violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; and 8. VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL TREATIES: violating and unilaterally abrogating lawful signatory treaties, such as the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (1972) between the United States and Russia, the Treaty of Rome (1950) establishing the International Criminal Court and the Geneva Conventions providing for humane treatment of combatants and civilians, in violation of Article VI of the Constitution acknowledging these treaties to be "the Supreme Law of the Land." Therefore, the Green Party of Santa Clara County demands the impeachment and consequent removal from office of the four aforementioned officials. Be it further resolved that the Green Party of Santa Clara County petitions the House of Representatives of the U.S. Congress to initiate Impeachment proceedings against all four identified officials. Be it further resolved that copies of this Resolution be sent to our Congressional representatives. (Adopted at the Monthly Meeting on March 7, 2006 in Sunnyvale, California) -- Also, check out Carol's article describing how we exposed Eshoo's liberal facade, at a recent Town Hall meeting in Mountain View, where our persisent questions revealed her ignorance and willful, unthinking subservience to the illegitmate authority of the Bush regime. TABOO TOPICS: Anna Eshoo's Town Hall Meeting (3/4/06) by Carol Brouillet http://www.carolforcongress.org/#taboo From baalavi at yahoo.com Mon Mar 27 08:36:01 2006 From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:36:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Delivery of Impeachment Resolution In-Reply-To: <4427ABA7.3050200@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20060327163601.19631.qmail@web52115.mail.yahoo.com> Anna's California Office 698 Emerson Street Palo Alto, California 94301 Telephone: (650) 323-2984 (408) 245-2339 (831) 335-2020 Gerry Gras wrote: FYI, On Tuesday at 11:00 AM, I will be hand delivering the GPSCC impeachment resolution to Anna Eshoo's office. Tian Harter and Carol Brouillet will be there as well. The media will be invited. Everyone is welcome. Gerry --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christian at carolforcongress.org Mon Mar 27 02:15:44 2006 From: christian at carolforcongress.org (christian at carolforcongress.org) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:15:44 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] TUES, 11am, Palo Alto, Present Impeachment Resolution to Anna Eshoo and DEMAND WE BE HEARD Message-ID: <20060327031544.bd89ab4226881690f8896c74ea8f4bf1.a8e7942cb6.wbe@email.email.secureserver.net> Greetings Greens, Friends, Activists, and Companeros, JOIN US! -- DEMAND IMPEACHMENT! On Tuesday, March 28th, at 11am we will present Congresswoman Anna Eshoo with the Green Party of Santa Clara County's recently passed Impeachment Resolution, and demand she immediately, and PUBLICLY support all existing impeachment activity in the House of Representatives. Anna Eshoo's Office 698 Emerson Street Downtown Palo Alto MAP : http://tinyurl.com/ljn9s This weekend MILLIONS took to the streets in California to stop the war, and roll back the reactionary immigrations policies encouraged by the bullies in power. We cannot let her ignore the TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans who demand the impeachment of the criminal Bush administration and their immediate removal from power. It looks like she's loyal FIRST to her Republican CIA buddies in the House Permanent Select Committee on (Anti-)Intelligence, and THEN to the demands of her constituents. The thugs in the spy agencies and Bush administration sure appreciate her co-sponsorship of the Intelligence Transformation Act, which expanded and re-organized their harmful and manipulative operations under the Spook Czar, John Negroponte, a notorious facilitator of human rights abuses in Honduras and Iraq. NO MORE! GREEN PARTY LEADS ON IMPEACHMENT Please read the impeachment resolution below, which the Green Party of Santa Clara County passed at their last monthly meeting (next one coming up Tues, April 4th, http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/). Carol Brouillet joins the Santa Clara County Greens and demands the immediate impeachment of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Gonzalez (to begin with...) for the rap sheet of intolerable crimes enumerated below. On Tuesday morning, at 11am, outside Anna Eshoo's office (698 Emerson Street, Downtown Palo Alto), we will bring our voices [with a speaker system], our hearts, some cookies, and copies of the Impeachment Resolution to her door and DEMAND IMPEACHMENT. We hope to see you there! Carol Brouillet for Congress "Impeach the Terrorists!" "Vote Green for Peace" www.carolforcongress.org MEDIA CONTACT: Christian Pecaut, 415-573-5655, christian at carolforcongress.org -- A RESOLUTION OF THE GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA in defense of the Constitution of the United States demanding the impeachment of George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney and two complicit associates. Whereas the Declaration of Independence declares securing "unalienable Rights" including "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" to be the purpose of government and Whereas the Constitution of the United States establishes the firm foundation for our rule of law and its Bill of Rights provides for the precious individual rights and freedoms guaranteed to all American citizens, Whereas, in the conduct of their offices, President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, in violation of their constitutional oaths to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" and to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed," have committed any or all of the following "high Crimes and Misdemeanors:" 1. WARRANTLESS SEARCHES: ordering the National Security Agency to conduct secret warrantless searches and seizures of the private personal communications of American citizens, without oversight by the legislative or judicial branches of the government, in violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of the Congress (FISA 1978); 2. TORTURE: authorizing and permitting torture against human beings, in violation of the Geneva Conventions (1864-1949) and the United Nations? Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (1985); 3. INDEFINITE DETENTION: depriving American citizens of their constitutionally guaranteed rights regarding unjust imprisonment and speedy and public trial, in violation of their rights to guaranteed liberty and due process of law in the 5th and 6th Amendments; 4. WAR OF AGGRESSION: launching an illegal, unjust and undeclared war against the sovereign state of Iraq, in violation of Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution and Chapters 1, 6, and 7 of the Charter of the United Nations (1945); 5. USE OF ILLEGAL WEAPONS: authorizing the use of illegal chemical and radioactive weapons in military campaigns, notably white phosphorous and depleted uranium in Iraq, in violation of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR 1948); 6. DELIBERATE DECEPTIONS: repeatedly, consciously, and with forethought, lying to the American people and the U.S. Congress by providing false and deceptive rationales for an unjustified and illegal war in Iraq, obstructing justice by destroying evidence, and covering up the truth about the 9-11 attacks; 7. ATTACKING CIVILIANS: authorizing, ordering, and condoning direct military attacks on civilians and civilian homes and communities, thereby causing widespread death, maiming and destruction in Iraq, in violation of Article 3 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; and 8. VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL TREATIES: violating and unilaterally abrogating lawful signatory treaties, such as the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty (1972) between the United States and Russia, the Treaty of Rome (1950) establishing the International Criminal Court and the Geneva Conventions providing for humane treatment of combatants and civilians, in violation of Article VI of the Constitution acknowledging these treaties to be "the Supreme Law of the Land." Therefore, the Green Party of Santa Clara County demands the impeachment and consequent removal from office of the four aforementioned officials. Be it further resolved that the Green Party of Santa Clara County petitions the House of Representatives of the U.S. Congress to initiate Impeachment proceedings against all four identified officials. Be it further resolved that copies of this Resolution be sent to our Congressional representatives. (Adopted at the Monthly Meeting on March 7, 2006 in Sunnyvale, California) -- Also, check out Carol's article describing how we exposed Eshoo's liberal facade, at a recent Town Hall meeting in Mountain View, where our persisent questions revealed her ignorance and willful, unthinking subservience to the illegitmate authority of the Bush regime. TABOO TOPICS: Anna Eshoo's Town Hall Meeting (3/4/06) by Carol Brouillet http://www.carolforcongress.org/#taboo From tnharter at greens.org Mon Mar 27 09:21:28 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:21:28 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Police File Charges Against Watsonville Brown Berets for Peaceful Protest Message-ID: <44281F18.9080402@greens.org> *Note: I went to this march, and it was a remarkable and beautiful event. - Tian Act Now! Police File Charges Against Watsonville Brown Berets for Peaceful Protest* by Watsonville Brown Berets Sunday, Mar. 26, 2006 at 9:48 AM brownberets at msn.com > Watsonville Police charge Brown Berets for peaceful action! PLEASE PASS WIDELY! IMMEDIATE ACTION NEEDED! Open letter To The Community: Help the Brown Berets Get Charges Dropped for Peaceful Action on March 25 in Watsonville, CA On Saturday, March 25, 2006 Watsonville saw the largest March for Peace and Justice in the history of the city. Documented and Undocumented Workers, families and allies marched in total solidarity with Anti-War Activists, led by Fernando Suarez Del Solar, Pablo Paredes and Medea Benjamin in a 2,000+ citizen, strong & peaceful march though the city of Watsonville. It was beautiful. The route had been pre-planned and sent to the police. Crowd security was provided by the Watsonville Brown Berets. The Berets also are part of the nationwide coalition, ?The Alliance for Human Rights,? the group which decided to make March 25 a national day of action against HR4437. This new, abusive, immigrant-bashing legislation is heading for the Senate on Tuesday which, among many awful things?would make simply being illegal in this country a felony. There have been marches, walkouts and various actions across the country over the past week in practically every state. The momentum to Saturday?s march had been building. With so many people, we could never have taken the sidewalks solely. We marched down one lane on four lane roads?with two lanes heading in each direction. We marched in only the furthest right hand lane and on the sidewalk. Traffic was still moving in both directions. People stayed inside the line of the one lane the whole time. Yet, after the march, the Watsonville Police Department targeted one organizer (a Brown Beret) and wrote him a citation with 8-10 counts against him, including criminal charges. We are still waiting for the ticket to arrive in the mail, what we know we have learned from one policeman and the news. They will also be charging the Brown Berets for police overtime. This was an effort to show people that ??they can?t do whatever they want to,? in the words of the Watsonville Police. The people wanted to march in the streets, they have that right. The extent of the crowd demonstrated the power of the immigration issue and the passion of the people. The Brown Berets did not expect or bring that many people. Residents came from everywhere to use the opportunity to be heard. This has been a silent population until now. Silent because they are working 12-16 hour days in the fields, hotels, and factories so Americans can enjoy the lifestyle and economic privilege we are accustomed to. As concerned and compassionate citizens, it is our duty to ensure that no one who organized or participated is ever a scapegoat or vilified on behalf of the powers that be. It is our responsibility to stand up and demand the Watsonville Police view their job that day as one of public service. That service being to protect the people in the streets. We had peaceful demonstrators, our own security yet the Watsonville Police insisted on assigning 10 cops and various vehicles to our march. This was not requested or necessary. We marched in Salinas right afterwards with NO POLICE SECURITY and we were fine. PLEASE HELP THE BROWN BERETS FIGHT THE CHARGES AND THE POWER STRUCTURE WHICH IS TRYING TO ?TEACH US ALL A LESSON.? ACT NOW!!!! Call Captain Manny Solano: (831) 768-3300 (leave message) or (831) 750-2943 (cell phone) and tell him to simply, DROP ALL CHARGES AGAINST THE BROWN BERETS, financial and criminal. Also, his e-mail is: msolano at ci.watsonville.ca.us Write letters to the Santa Cruz Sentinel and Register Pajaronian immediately, they have both covered the story. Condemn the Watsonville Police Department for charging us with fines and citations for simply leading the people safely on a very emotional issue. We have no money, we do everything through volunteers and small, in-kind donations. Please help us. In Community Solidarity, The Watsonville Brown Berets brownberets at msn.com -- Tian http://tianharter.org Saturday March 25th: I marched in Watsonville for Peace and Justice with something like 700 other people, including Medea Benjamin and Fernando Suarez del Solar, whose son Jesus was one of the first people that died in Iraq for Bush's oil war. Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Mar 27 22:16:04 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:16:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] National Impeachment Movement Message-ID: <4428D4A4.5020108@earthlink.net> I have been doing some web research about the Impeachment issue. There is a lot more going on than I was aware of. In a Zogby poll: "By a margin of 52% to 43%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he wiretapped American citizens without a judge's approval,..." A number of cities and towns have passed impeachment resolutions. Thirty members of Congress are supporting an Impeachment Inquiry, including 7 from California. Some of those are local, including Mike Honda, Sam Farr, Barbara Lee, Pete Stark, and Lynn Woolsey. But not Anna Eshoo, Zoe Lofgren, or Richard Pombo. Below are some relevant websites, Gerry Zogby poll shows majority of Americans want impeachment. (1/13/06) http://www.democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-2 Articles of Impeachment book from Center for Constitutional Rights: http://www.mhpbooks.com/aoi.html San Francisco Supervisors Ask Lawmakers to Impeach Bush (3/1/06) http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0301-02.htm Billboard ("Be Patriotic, Impeach Bush") http://www.carlsheeler.com/ 30 Congressional Representatives support Impeachment Inquiry (includes John Conyers, Sam Farr, Mike Honda, Pete Stark, and Lynn Woolsey) http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060311&articleId=2085 http://www.atlantaprogressivenews.com/news/0035.html http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000399.htm "The Impeachment of George W. Bush" (by Elizabeth Holtzman "... played a key role in House impeachment proceedings against President Richard Nixon.") http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060130/holtzman The Founders Never Imagined a Bush Administration http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0327-27.htm National Impeachment Movement Ignored by Corporate Media http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0327-29.htm More: http://www.impeachbush.org/site/PageServer http://www.impeach-bush-now.org/ http://www.impeachbush.tv/ Google "impeach Bush" _______________________________________________ gpca-cc mailing list gpca-cc at marla.cagreens.org http://marla.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-cc From WB4D23 at aol.com Tue Mar 28 17:30:56 2006 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:30:56 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Request for Agenda Items Message-ID: <24f.8dcb34a.315b3d50@aol.com> In a message dated 3/23/06 1:32:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, gerrygras at earthlink.net writes: Please submit your agenda items for Tuesday April 4's meeting. I would appreciate it if you would include time estimate(s) and presenter(s). Please include 15 minutes near the beginning of the meeting for a guest presenter -- Greg Miller of California Nurses Association -- to briefly summarize the CNA public financing of campaigns initiative and distribute initiative petitions to individuals and for GPSCC tabling. Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at greens.org Wed Mar 29 10:29:15 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:29:15 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] A remarkable peace march Message-ID: <442AD1FB.4030201@greens.org> Fernando Suarez de Solar spent most of March marching from Tijuana, Mexico to San Francisco, California. I joined them for three days, and took lots of pictures while they were in Santa Clara County. You can see those at: http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/MarchPeaceMarch06/index.shtml I came away from the experience with a strong feeling that there are people out there doing incredible things in the struggle for peace. -- Tian http://tianharter.org Tuesday March 28th: I attended a press conferance in front of Anna Eshoo's office, and then came home and put my new pictures from Saturdays march across San Jose on my website. Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From tnharter at greens.org Wed Mar 29 17:42:25 2006 From: tnharter at greens.org (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:42:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Party at Tian's, Thursday March 30, 7-9 PM. You are invited! Message-ID: <442B3781.7010909@greens.org> I'm having a party tomorrow evening, and you are invited. The details are on my website at: http://tianharter.org/PartyAnoucement.shtml Come on down! Bring some friends if you want. The more the merrier! I'm regreting I didn't remind everybody earlier, but I just forgot... -- Tian http://tianharter.org Tuesday March 28th: I attended a press conferance in front of Anna Eshoo's office, and then came home and put my new pictures from Saturdays march across San Jose on my website. Tian Harter for Senate, P.O. Box 391854, Mtn View CA 94039-1854 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 29 18:11:19 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:11:19 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Greens request impeachment Message-ID: <442B3E47.8070101@sbcglobal.net> A copy of the letter sent to the judiciary committee members and a copy of the accompanying impeachment resolution are now on the Green Party of Santa Clara County website http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/ From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Mar 31 00:42:45 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:42:45 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Public Ever More Skeptical About Bush's Crusade" Message-ID: <442CEB85.7090304@earthlink.net> The above subject line is the title of an article from the Inter Press Service. One of the one sentence paragraphs says: "The survey, designed by Daniel Yankelovich, also found that public concern about U.S. dependence on foreign energy sources has skyrocketed in recent months, and has now joined Iraq as the kind of foreign policy issue that can do serious harm to politicians if they are seen as failing to respond effectively to the problem." http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0330-01.htm Gerry From workoutwellforall at gmail.com Fri Mar 31 01:21:24 2006 From: workoutwellforall at gmail.com (Christian Pecaut) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:21:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Public Ever More Skeptical About Bush's Crusade" In-Reply-To: <442CEB85.7090304@earthlink.net> References: <442CEB85.7090304@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <58f8ab140603310121t7ca00328kc4dfee7f426534a4@mail.gmail.com> I'd be careful, Gerry, about some of these polls. In my judgment -- Yankelovich is a 'liberal' front, paid for by the the right-wing think tank / PAC world. This whole 'public concern about US dependence on foreign energy' looks like a deliberately manipulative distraction from the the war, and 9/11 truth behind it. Another neo-con milquetoast idea -- SOUNDS kinda good, but FEELS a little manipulative and weak. The neo-cons have co-opted psychiatric ideas such as 'harm' and 'failure' -- and in the sentence below, "can do serious harm to politicians if they are seen as failing", we see the PURPOSE of the whole deceptive 'survey'. To force acknowledgement of a lie, under threat of "harm" and "failure". The view is, of course, shared by '51%' of the population. The trick is 1)- they set-up a fake 'concern' in an imaginary 'public' 2)- then they lie to you about how '51%' of fake 'public' believes something that NO ONE believes ... and voila! You have '60% of soldiers believe Saddam Hussein was involved with setting up 9/11' -- [the troops over there are know they are there for oil] You have 'pubic concern about U.S. dependence on foreign energy sources skyrocket[ing] in recent months'. The implied solution for the fake problem is investing in green energy science. A solution that also implies, allowing the Bush junta to rule for two more years -- without FORCING them from their illegitimate office. Such an idea is sharper than those allowed the 'public' interest groups. Millions of Americans are pissed off at the war, the economy, and Bush. We need to define the people's concerns, with our program. > "The survey, designed by Daniel Yankelovich, also found that public > concern about U.S. dependence on foreign energy sources has skyrocketed > in recent months, and has now joined Iraq as the kind of foreign policy > issue that can do serious harm to politicians if they are seen as > failing to respond effectively to the problem." > > http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0330-01.htm > > > Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 31 11:33:33 2006 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:33:33 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party County Council meeting Message-ID: <442D840D.8090308@sbcglobal.net> This month's - March's -"4-th Saturday" Green Party county council meeting will be at 11 am Saturday Arril 1, 2006 520 View St. Mountain View between Church and Mercy You are welcome. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Mar 31 14:26:52 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:26:52 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting Message-ID: <442DACAC.2040909@earthlink.net> Proposed Agenda for County Meeting Tuesday, April 4, 2006 Location: Banjara Indian Restaurant - http://banjarainc.com 407 Town & Country Village, Sunnyvale Directions available at above web site 6:30 Socializing and Dinner 7:30 Meeting NOTE: The order of items in this agenda is not necessarily the order we will be discussing them. -- Preliminary Items -- Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and Vibes Watcher(s) (5) Introductions and Short Announcements (5) Revise and Affirm Agenda (5) -- Main Part -- 1. Treasurer's Report (5) Adam 2. State Party Business Plenary Delegate Selection (10) Plenary Proposals (15??) 3. Old Business Planning Meeting (no progress) (1) Gerry County Council Election (1) Gerry Peace March Report (2) (whoever was there) Tabling (10) (Jim Doyle) Earth Day Events Junior Statesmen Logistics (suitcase) Treasurer Replacement (3) Gerry Regional Rep Election (5) Gerry Impeachment Resolution (3) Gerry 4. New Business CNA public campaign financing initiative (15) Warner / Greg Miller Move meeting to San Jose Peace Center (15) Cameron Press Release Authorization (10) Gerry / Jim Doyle / Wes Outreach (Youth and Latino) (10) Jim Doyle Volunteer Participation (5) Gerry (Total scheduled time: 2 hours, 5 minutes) -- Future Events -- Next GPSCC meeting Tuesday, May 2, 2006 ? (Unless some date change proposal passes) -- Disclaimer -- The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only. The actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e reached during the meeting because of time limits. Persons receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or the agenda sequence. Please share this information with individuals who do not have email. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Mar 31 14:27:16 2006 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:27:16 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary Preparation Problem Message-ID: <442DACC4.4030909@earthlink.net> In the Agenda I just sent out, I scheduled "15??" minutes for Plenary Proposals. I said "15??", because we have a problem in preparing for the plenary. The plenary packet is not yet available in final form. I expect it will be available soon, but it may not be until after our meeting. And in any case, we will not have sufficient opportunity for a careful review before our meeting. So I suppose what we will have to do is forego making any decisions at the business meeting. And that anyone who wants to participate in making decisions about the proposals will have to attend a future meeting specifically about the packet proposals, and/or send emails before the meeting. I think we have done something like this before. But I bring this up now in case someone sees a problem with that approach or has a better idea. And, FYI, you can see the proposals (albeit awkwardly) at http://cagreens.org/plenary/preview. Gerry From workoutwellforall at gmail.com Fri Mar 31 16:38:38 2006 From: workoutwellforall at gmail.com (Christian Pecaut) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:38:38 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary Preparation Problem In-Reply-To: <442DACC4.4030909@earthlink.net> References: <442DACC4.4030909@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <58f8ab140603311638r704918fbj47a7df589f1622ff@mail.gmail.com> > And, FYI, you can see the proposals (albeit awkwardly) at > > http://cagreens.org/plenary/preview. That page asked me for a login / pw -- how do I get in? Christian