[Sosfbay-discuss] Let's make GreenCommons.org our Green blog central! (was De Lear v Berman)

JamBoi jamboi at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 2 11:36:07 PST 2006


Hey Wes and Cres,

No Wes, nice try but if you REALLY want to see someone get pounded you
should see how since 11/2 (as in Fraud '04) I've gotten booted off of
DemocraticUnderground.com, Daily Kos (multiple times), MyDD.com and
just the other day ProgressiveIndependent.com. ;-) I'm a purple heart
veteran of all this wolf pack regressive nondemocratic "Democratic"
blog action.  I don't necessarily recommend that other people adopt my
fiercely fiesty approach to promoting our Green Party ;-)  but my hope
is that by me going out and taking slings and arrows that I'd forge the
way for others to courageously stand up for Green inclusion on the
Progressive part of  (and eventually across the political spectrum) the
blogosphere.

I agree with many parts of what you say in your thoughtful e-mail
below, like the idea of creating an inclusive blogosphere. BUT I want
to also really recommend that we provide ourselves with a place for us
Greens to hang together and speak among ourselves without the
distraction of The Duopoly operatives and I believe
http://www.GreenCommons.org will continue to evolve into that place. 
Let's really get behind it and there we can develop our own Green
blogging team!

Also note that at GreenCommons.org there is a link to get connected to
the Green Blog roll.  Join the Green Blog roll ASAP!

A Million Votes for Peace and Green Solidarity!

Drew

Sounds great!  Count new blogger 

--- civillib at cwnet.com wrote:

> As I've said, let's start a blog team, or whatever we call it, so
that we can be IN the web news constantly and consistently. I work on
the straight news side, but Drew, Wes and others I know are capable of
doing the blog work. Can we add that to our agenda for the next
teleconference??
> 
> Cres

JamBoi wrote:
> 
> >Here's a much too common staunch Dem response to the fine article by
> >Alex on DailyKos supporting De Lear.  This (un)reasoning is entirely
> >too common unfortunately.  I love the last line in particular.  "I
> >really don't want to read positive things about the Greens here." So
> >smacks of "Don't confuse me with the facts!".  Greens need to get
> out
> >there in the Blogosphere as Alex has and dispell the stupidity of
> The
> >Duopoly.  Take a chance, be bold and take a stand for Greens!

--- Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net> wrote:
> >  
> >
> Drew,
> As Alex and I have previously discussed, he got off easy.  If you
> really 
> want to see someone get pounded, read my diary at 
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/27/124155/63
> 
> I think that Alex and I have the right ideas.  We are both taking
> taking 
> the arguements for a Green Party to another level. We are still
> learning 
> how to best use the media available to us to the best advantage. 
> This 
> particular episode tells us a few thing that we can learn to use.
> 
> Sites like DailyKos instill a sense of community.  It is in the 
> rhetoric.  It is even in the very user interface that they use, 
> especially in such devices as the ability to "reccommend" a diary
> post 
> so that it stays on the front page.  Most of the Green Party efforts
> to 
> make use of the internet (Ken Sain's old blog, Green Commons, my own 
> California Greening) do not do that.  It is something that I need to 
> consider as I move forward after the election hysteria is over.
> 
> Members of this community are like a family, they can squabble among 
> themselves, but they close ranks when questioned (attacked?) from 
> outside.  Make no bones about it, DailyKos is a very, very Democratic
> 
> blog where adherence to the party is more important then being on the
> 
> right side of an issue.
> 
> This adherence is further re-inforced by demonizing the opposition 
> (Republicans) to the point that "if you are not for me, you are
> against 
> me".  This is Bush Logic for the War on Terror.  It is Markos Zuniga 
> logic for dailyKos.  I can almost see the new prescription to refer
> to 
> him as Comandante Markos (with a K this time).
> 
> I would love to see an alternative to DailyKos in which there is a 
> different paradigm, one of inclusion, of building a congregation
> rather 
> than protecting a familiy, one of supporting diversity of (ideas, 
> viewpoints, background)  rather than demanding doctrinal purity.
> 
> One final observation is that You Tube has emerged as a low cost, 
> effective medium for getting ones message accross.  It does not take
> a 
> lot of money to produce a short video.  Those that are well done will
> 
> call attention to themselves, if given a little intelligent help. 
> Those 
> that are particularly viscious (Playboy attack ad on Harold Ford... 
> pulled from mainstream TV but with a life of it's own on You Tube) or
> 
> particularly humorous (many) get repeated.   I think that we should 
> start planning to use this medium to expand our reach, as You Tube is
> 
> truly global.
> 
> Combine the two, building our own community as better than dailyKos,
> and 
> an effective use of video via You Tube and other source, will be
> winning 
> combination.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Wes Rolley		 
> 17211 Quail Court	
> Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> (408)778-3024
> 
> "Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in
> and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore

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JamBoi
Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com


 
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