From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Oct  1 14:46:15 2006
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 14:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Balloon Highway Blogging
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-F9FADB1EB913F44AAF71029E190@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY121-F30C57E43AC3902DD6E32949E1E0@phx.gbl>

Speaking of alternative media, driving down to the Farmers Market it 
occurred to me
that we can post people in the bike lanes with big honking bike trailers, 
and nobody can
expect the bikes to move real fast.  Then at the stop lights confederates 
can approach
the stopped cars to pass out leaflets and collect donations.

Brian




>From: "Brian Good" <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
>To: sosfbay-discuss at marla.cagreens.org
>Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Balloon Highway Blogging
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:20:35 -0700
>
>Science lurches forward.
>
>Sealants in the balloon contain the helium longer
>
>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x29071
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Mon Oct  2 09:24:04 2006
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 09:24:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: A + 90 = FINANCIAL LOSS...
References: <55DD6F1818AEA84AA80D2FAA12E7FD71CC23DA@mail.sccaor.com>
Message-ID: <5BFE5452-52EF-40EC-81C8-1BD6069B2CB9@cagreens.org>

FYI, all.  They're coming on strong!!
Andrea

"We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have  
democracy, but we cannot have both."
---Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Irene Whiteside" <irene at sccaor.com>
> Date: October 2, 2006 9:13:57 AM PDT
> To: <showe at campbellexpress.net>, <andid at cagreens.org>
> Subject: A + 90 = FINANCIAL LOSS FOR SANTA CLARA COUNTY
>
> MEDIA ADVISORY
>
>
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
> October 2, 2006
>
>
>
> Contact: Andre Charles
>
> (408) 506-8808
>
> andre at votenoonmeasurea.com
>
>
>
> A + 90 = FINANCIAL LOSS FOR SANTA CLARA COUNTY
>
>
>
> Santa Clara County Supervisor Pete McHugh, Santa Clara County  
> Supervisor Don Gage, and county land use expert Bart Hechtman will  
> respond to a report from County Counsel Ann Miller Ravel warning of  
> serious impacts if Proposition 90 and Measure A are approved by  
> voters on November 7.
>
>
>
> WHO:
>
> No On Measure A, a coalition of farmers, ranchers, local  
> businesses, homeowners, realtors and the Silicon Valley Taxpayers'  
> Association Santa Clara County Supervisor Don Gage Santa Clara  
> County Supervisor Pete McHugh Land Use Attorney Bart Hechtman
>
>
>
> WHERE:
>
> James P. McEntee, Sr., Plaza, 70 West Hedding Street, San Jose
>
>
>
> WHEN:
>
> Monday, October 2nd, 12:30 to 1pm
>
>
>
> # # #
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Irene Whiteside
>
> Government Affairs Coordinator
>
> Santa Clara County Association of REALTORS?
>
> 1651 N First Street,
>
> San Jose, CA  95112
>
>
>
> irene at sccaor.com
>
>
>
> 408-445-5092 direct line
>
> 408-445-7767 fax
>
>
>
> Together with farmers and ranchers, SCCAOR reminds you to  
> VoteNOonMeasureA.com in November, which would pose a tremendous  
> threat to property rights and the valley?s rich agricultural  
> heritage and future economic vitality.
>
>
>
?
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  2 10:53:34 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:53:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: A + 90 = FINANCIAL LOSS...
In-Reply-To: <5BFE5452-52EF-40EC-81C8-1BD6069B2CB9@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <20061002175334.92309.qmail@web52210.mail.yahoo.com>

They have their 'No on Measure A' signs everywhere!  Big bucks!

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:

> FYI, all.  They're coming on strong!!
> Andrea
> 
> "We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have
>  
> democracy, but we cannot have both."
> ---Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> > From: "Irene Whiteside" <irene at sccaor.com>
> > Date: October 2, 2006 9:13:57 AM PDT
> > To: <showe at campbellexpress.net>, <andid at cagreens.org>
> > Subject: A + 90 = FINANCIAL LOSS FOR SANTA CLARA COUNTY
> >
> > MEDIA ADVISORY
> >
> >
> >
> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >
> > October 2, 2006
> >
> >
> >
> > Contact: Andre Charles
> >
> > (408) 506-8808
> >
> > andre at votenoonmeasurea.com
> >
> >
> >
> > A + 90 = FINANCIAL LOSS FOR SANTA CLARA COUNTY
> >
> >
> >
> > Santa Clara County Supervisor Pete McHugh, Santa Clara County  
> > Supervisor Don Gage, and county land use expert Bart Hechtman will 
> 
> > respond to a report from County Counsel Ann Miller Ravel warning of
>  
> > serious impacts if Proposition 90 and Measure A are approved by  
> > voters on November 7.
> >
> >
> >
> > WHO:
> >
> > No On Measure A, a coalition of farmers, ranchers, local  
> > businesses, homeowners, realtors and the Silicon Valley Taxpayers' 
> 
> > Association Santa Clara County Supervisor Don Gage Santa Clara  
> > County Supervisor Pete McHugh Land Use Attorney Bart Hechtman
> >
> >
> >
> > WHERE:
> >
> > James P. McEntee, Sr., Plaza, 70 West Hedding Street, San Jose
> >
> >
> >
> > WHEN:
> >
> > Monday, October 2nd, 12:30 to 1pm
> >
> >
> >
> > # # #
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Irene Whiteside
> >
> > Government Affairs Coordinator
> >
> > Santa Clara County Association of REALTORS??
> >
> > 1651 N First Street,
> >
> > San Jose, CA  95112
> >
> >
> >
> > irene at sccaor.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 408-445-5092 direct line
> >
> > 408-445-7767 fax
> >
> >
> >
> > Together with farmers and ranchers, SCCAOR reminds you to  
> > VoteNOonMeasureA.com in November, which would pose a tremendous  
> > threat to property rights and the valley???s rich agricultural  
> > heritage and future economic vitality.
> >
> >
> >
> ???
> > _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 


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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Mon Oct  2 12:45:31 2006
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:45:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Election Fraud Stuff" from Brian Good
Message-ID: <E1GUTjH-0006s5-00@truffula>


Brian sent this to four mailing lists at once, which triggered
the recipient filter in Mailman.  As list owner, I told
him how to fix it so it would go through, but he never did.  

Cameron


Subject: Election Fraud Stuff
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:28:24 -0700
From: "Brian Good" <snug.bug[at]hotmail.com>
To: [six addresses]

RFK has another election article in yesterday's Rolling Stone  "Will The
Next Election Be Hacked?"

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__will_the_next_election_be_hacked

Read his June article about the Ohio irregularities here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen

(I can provide paper copies upon request)

Princeton University recently released a study showing that Diebold machines
could be
hacked in less than a minute by one person implanting a virus that would
then propagate
to other machines.

Mark Crispin Miller is barnstorming in the Bay Area early next month:



How the election was stolen in 2004 and how the Right will steal it again in
2006: An Evening with Mark Crispin Miller, Author of Fooled Again

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH, 7PM,
OAKLAND GRAND LAKE THEATER
3200 Grand Avenue,
Oakland Box Office
(510)452-3556,
Tickets are $10
grandlaketheater.com
(co-sponsored by DemocracyAction,
Election Defense Alliance, Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club) The evening 
includes: STEALING AMERICA: Vote by Vote
a New Feature-length Documentary by EMMY-winning, OSCAR-nominated filmmaker
Dorothy Fadiman

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5TH - 7:30PM,
SAN FRANCISCO ROXIE FILM CTR
3117 16TH Street @Valencia,
SF Box Office (415)863-1087,
Tickets are $10
Buy advance tickets
roxie.com
(co-sponsored by SF for Democracy, Democracy Action,
Election Defense Alliance)

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 6TH - 7:00PM,
Ted Adcock Center
535 Kelly St. Half Moon Bay
Tickets are $10
Special guests include:
Alan Dechert, Open Voting Consortium
Jim March, Activist, Author of "The Jim March Papers"
(co-sponsored by Concerned Citizens of San Mateo County -
wallace.mckenzie[at]gmail.com)

SATURDAY, OCT 7TH - 3PM,
BERKELEY MARINA DOUBLETREE HOTEL 
ACLU + BARC (Berkeley, Albany, Richmond, Kensington) Annual Chapter Meeting
US Elections: Two Views With Mark Crispin Miller and Andrew Gumbel, author 
of "Steal This Vote" (sponsored by BARC+ACLU Annual Meeting, for more info
call 510-525-9223)

SATURDAY, OCT 7TH - 7:30PM,
Ingram Hall, First Presbyterian Church
1550 Pacific Avenue, Santa Rosa
Donation: $10
Sponsored by Sonoma County Election Defense Committee, Progressive Democrats
Sonoma County





From baalavi at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  2 14:09:26 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Military Super Power's Fate
Message-ID: <20061002210927.20919.qmail@web52104.mail.yahoo.com>

New York Times
  -----------------------------------
  September 30, 2006
  Op-Ed Contributor
  Pirates of the Mediterranean   By ROBERT HARRIS
    Kintbury, England
  IN the autumn of 68 B.C. the world?s only military superpower was dealt a profound psychological blow by a daring terrorist attack on its very heart. Rome?s port at Ostia was set on fire, the consular war fleet destroyed, and two prominent senators, together with their bodyguards and staff, kidnapped.
  The incident, dramatic though it was, has not attracted much attention from modern historians. But history is mutable. An event that was merely a footnote five years ago has now, in our post-9/11 world, assumed a fresh and ominous significance. For in the panicky aftermath of the attack, the Roman people made decisions that set them on the path to the destruction of their Constitution, their democracy and their liberty. One cannot help wondering if history is repeating itself.
  Consider the parallels. The perpetrators of this spectacular assault were not in the pay of any foreign power: no nation would have dared to attack Rome so provocatively. They were, rather, the disaffected of the earth: ?The ruined men of all nations,? in the words of the great 19th-century German historian Theodor Mommsen, ?a piratical state with a peculiar esprit de corps.? 
  Like Al Qaeda, these pirates were loosely organized, but able to spread a disproportionate amount of fear among citizens who had believed themselves immune from attack. To quote Mommsen again: ?The Latin husbandman, the traveler on the Appian highway, the genteel bathing visitor at the terrestrial paradise of Baiae were no longer secure of their property or their life for a single moment.?
  What was to be done? Over the preceding centuries, the Constitution of ancient Rome had developed an intricate series of checks and balances intended to prevent the concentration of power in the hands of a single individual. The consulship, elected annually, was jointly held by two men. Military commands were of limited duration and subject to regular renewal. Ordinary citizens were accustomed to a remarkable degree of liberty: the cry of ?Civis Romanus sum? ? ?I am a Roman citizen? ? was a guarantee of safety throughout the world.
  But such was the panic that ensued after Ostia that the people were willing to compromise these rights. The greatest soldier in Rome, the 38-year-old Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus (better known to posterity as Pompey the Great) arranged for a lieutenant of his, the tribune Aulus Gabinius, to rise in the Roman Forum and propose an astonishing new law. 
  ?Pompey was to be given not only the supreme naval command but what amounted in fact to an absolute authority and uncontrolled power over everyone,? the Greek historian Plutarch wrote. ?There were not many places in the Roman world that were not included within these limits.?
  Pompey eventually received almost the entire contents of the Roman Treasury ? 144 million sesterces ? to pay for his ?war on terror,? which included building a fleet of 500 ships and raising an army of 120,000 infantry and 5,000 cavalry. Such an accumulation of power was unprecedented, and there was literally a riot in the Senate when the bill was debated.
  Nevertheless, at a tumultuous mass meeting in the center of Rome, Pompey?s opponents were cowed into submission, the Lex Gabinia passed (illegally), and he was given his power. In the end, once he put to sea, it took less than three months to sweep the pirates from the entire Mediterranean. Even allowing for Pompey?s genius as a military strategist, the suspicion arises that if the pirates could be defeated so swiftly, they could hardly have been such a grievous threat in the first place. 
  But it was too late to raise such questions. By the oldest trick in the political book ? the whipping up of a panic, in which any dissenting voice could be dismissed as ?soft? or even ?traitorous? ? powers had been ceded by the people that would never be returned. Pompey stayed in the Middle East for six years, establishing puppet regimes throughout the region, and turning himself into the richest man in the empire.
  Those of us who are not Americans can only look on in wonder at the similar ease with which the ancient rights and liberties of the individual are being surrendered in the United States in the wake of 9/11. The vote by the Senate on Thursday to suspend the right of habeas corpus for terrorism detainees, denying them their right to challenge their detention in court; the careful wording about torture, which forbids only the inducement of ?serious? physical and mental suffering to obtain information; the admissibility of evidence obtained in the United States without a search warrant; the licensing of the president to declare a legal resident of the United States an enemy combatant ? all this represents an historic shift in the balance of power between the citizen and the executive.
  An intelligent, skeptical American would no doubt scoff at the thought that what has happened since 9/11 could presage the destruction of a centuries-old constitution; but then, I suppose, an intelligent, skeptical Roman in 68 B.C. might well have done the same. 
  In truth, however, the Lex Gabinia was the beginning of the end of the Roman republic. It set a precedent. Less than a decade later, Julius Caesar ? the only man, according to Plutarch, who spoke out in favor of Pompey?s special command during the Senate debate ? was awarded similar, extended military sovereignty in Gaul. Previously, the state, through the Senate, largely had direction of its armed forces; now the armed forces began to assume direction of the state.
  It also brought a flood of money into an electoral system that had been designed for a simpler, non-imperial era. Caesar, like Pompey, with all the resources of Gaul at his disposal, became immensely wealthy, and used his treasure to fund his own political faction. Henceforth, the result of elections was determined largely by which candidate had the most money to bribe the electorate. In 49 B.C., the system collapsed completely, Caesar crossed the Rubicon ? and the rest, as they say, is ancient history.
  It may be that the Roman republic was doomed in any case. But the disproportionate reaction to the raid on Ostia unquestionably hastened the process, weakening the restraints on military adventurism and corrupting the political process. It was to be more than 1,800 years before anything remotely comparable to Rome?s democracy ? imperfect though it was ? rose again.
  The Lex Gabinia was a classic illustration of the law of unintended consequences: it fatally subverted the institution it was supposed to protect. Let us hope that vote in the United States Senate does not have the same result.
  Robert Harris is the author, most recently, of ?Imperium: A Novel of Ancient Rome.?


 		
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Oct  2 23:13:44 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Press Release Sent for Tommorrow Eve.'s Mtn View
	Candidate Event
Message-ID: <20061003061344.57636.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com>

Drew,

Sent this out per Carol, etc. >SNIP< Good luck. :)) This went to all
bay area, concentrated in south bay, by fax and email It'll resend 5
a.m. Tuesday.

cres

NEWS ADVISORY: Real ?terrorists' live in the White House, Green Party
state, federal, local slate to charge Tuesday at major campaign event
in Mountain View

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, October 2, 2006
Contact: Carol  650-857-0927 or Cres 916-996 9170 
For more info: www.cagreens.org/sclara/http://cagreens.org/sclara

ATTN: Assignment Desk/Daybook


Real ?terrorists' live in the White House,
Green Party state, federal, local slate to charge 
Tuesday at major campaign event in Mountain View

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Ca. ? The President and Congress have failed to protect
the American people ? and have made the threat of terror worse
according to recent report of U.S. spy agencies ? claim state, national
and local Green Party candidates who will attend a major public event
here Tuesday.

The event is being held from Tuesday 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. at the
Historic Adobe House, 157 Moffett Boulevard, in Mountain View,
sponsored by the Green Party of Santa Clara County.

There will be media availability at 6:30 p.m. A reception begins at
6:45
pm, candidates will speak at 7:30 p.m. The event is free and open to
the
public.

The Green Party ? which calls itself the true "opposition party" for
peace, justice and Democracy ? has come out strongly against the
PATRIOT Act, torture, and in favor of impeachment, immigrants rights,
electoral reform, and an end to War on Iraq.

The candidates who will be speaking include- Todd Chretien for U.S.
Senator, Peter Miguel Camejo for Governor, Forrest Hill for Secretary
of
State, Mehul Thakker for Treasurer, Michael Wyman for Attorney General,
Laura Wells for Controller, Larry Cafiero for Insurance Commissioner,
Carol Brouillet for the 14th District U.S. House of Representatives and
Tian Harter for the Mountain View City Council (nonpartisan).

"Congress failed in its duty to protect the Constitution, the American
people, any pretense of justice or moral high ground, by passing a law
denying habeas corpus to ?terror suspects,'" said Bay Area Green Party
congressional candidate Brouillet.

"?Fighting terrorism' is a mask for extending U.S. power abroad and
curtailing our liberties at home. We must rein in the terrorists
occupying the White House, who are the real threat to our liberties,
and a threat to all those who stand in the path of their global
domination project," she added.

-30- 

JamBoi
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From gyral at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  3 12:45:42 2006
From: gyral at yahoo.com (Sam Rafter)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:45:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election Fraud
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1159902007.10044.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <20061003194542.72291.qmail@web42109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm glad to see more people discussing election fraud!  The simplistic solution
I've been advocating is for everyone to vote by absentee ballot.  It's hard not
to have a paper trail that way.  For slightly more info on this topic, check
this out:

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/

-Sam

> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:45:31 -0700
> From: "Cameron L. Spitzer" <cls at truffula.sj.ca.us>
> Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Election Fraud Stuff" from Brian Good
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Message-ID: <E1GUTjH-0006s5-00 at truffula>
> 
> 
> Brian sent this to four mailing lists at once, which triggered
> the recipient filter in Mailman.  As list owner, I told
> him how to fix it so it would go through, but he never did.  
> 
> Cameron
> 
> 
> Subject: Election Fraud Stuff
> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:28:24 -0700
> From: "Brian Good" <snug.bug[at]hotmail.com>
> To: [six addresses]
> 
> RFK has another election article in yesterday's Rolling Stone  "Will The
> Next Election Be Hacked?"
> 
>
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__will_the_next_election_be_hacked
> 
> Read his June article about the Ohio irregularities here:
> 
> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
> 
> (I can provide paper copies upon request)
> 
> Princeton University recently released a study showing that Diebold machines
> could be
> hacked in less than a minute by one person implanting a virus that would
> then propagate
> to other machines.
> 
> Mark Crispin Miller is barnstorming in the Bay Area early next month:
> 
> 
> 
> How the election was stolen in 2004 and how the Right will steal it again in
> 2006: An Evening with Mark Crispin Miller, Author of Fooled Again
> 
> WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH, 7PM,
> OAKLAND GRAND LAKE THEATER
> 3200 Grand Avenue,
> Oakland Box Office
> (510)452-3556,
> Tickets are $10
> grandlaketheater.com
> (co-sponsored by DemocracyAction,
> Election Defense Alliance, Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club) The evening 
> includes: STEALING AMERICA: Vote by Vote
> a New Feature-length Documentary by EMMY-winning, OSCAR-nominated filmmaker
> Dorothy Fadiman
> 
> THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5TH - 7:30PM,
> SAN FRANCISCO ROXIE FILM CTR
> 3117 16TH Street @Valencia,
> SF Box Office (415)863-1087,
> Tickets are $10
> Buy advance tickets
> roxie.com
> (co-sponsored by SF for Democracy, Democracy Action,
> Election Defense Alliance)
> 
> FRIDAY, OCTOBER 6TH - 7:00PM,
> Ted Adcock Center
> 535 Kelly St. Half Moon Bay
> Tickets are $10
> Special guests include:
> Alan Dechert, Open Voting Consortium
> Jim March, Activist, Author of "The Jim March Papers"
> (co-sponsored by Concerned Citizens of San Mateo County -
> wallace.mckenzie[at]gmail.com)
> 
> SATURDAY, OCT 7TH - 3PM,
> BERKELEY MARINA DOUBLETREE HOTEL 
> ACLU + BARC (Berkeley, Albany, Richmond, Kensington) Annual Chapter Meeting
> US Elections: Two Views With Mark Crispin Miller and Andrew Gumbel, author 
> of "Steal This Vote" (sponsored by BARC+ACLU Annual Meeting, for more info
> call 510-525-9223)
> 
> SATURDAY, OCT 7TH - 7:30PM,
> Ingram Hall, First Presbyterian Church
> 1550 Pacific Avenue, Santa Rosa
> Donation: $10
> Sponsored by Sonoma County Election Defense Committee, Progressive Democrats
> Sonoma County

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From baalavi at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  3 15:45:26 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 15:45:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election Fraud
In-Reply-To: <20061003194542.72291.qmail@web42109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061003224527.72602.qmail@web52109.mail.yahoo.com>

I have often thought of this.   Past a certain LOCAL level, elections become irrelevant ... so why not just toss the names in a hat and draw one?
   
  While it will be much less expensive and simpler than what we have today; it couldn't be worse.
   
  ba

Sam Rafter <gyral at yahoo.com> wrote:
  I'm glad to see more people discussing election fraud! The simplistic solution
I've been advocating is for everyone to vote by absentee ballot. It's hard not
to have a paper trail that way. For slightly more info on this topic, check
this out:

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/

-Sam

> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:45:31 -0700
> From: "Cameron L. Spitzer" 
> Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Election Fraud Stuff" from Brian Good
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Message-ID: 
> 
> 
> Brian sent this to four mailing lists at once, which triggered
> the recipient filter in Mailman. As list owner, I told
> him how to fix it so it would go through, but he never did. 
> 
> Cameron
> 
> 
> Subject: Election Fraud Stuff
> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:28:24 -0700
> From: "Brian Good" 
> To: [six addresses]
> 
> RFK has another election article in yesterday's Rolling Stone "Will The
> Next Election Be Hacked?"
> 
>
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__will_the_next_election_be_hacked
> 
> Read his June article about the Ohio irregularities here:
> 
> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
> 
> (I can provide paper copies upon request)
> 
> Princeton University recently released a study showing that Diebold machines
> could be
> hacked in less than a minute by one person implanting a virus that would
> then propagate
> to other machines.
> 
> Mark Crispin Miller is barnstorming in the Bay Area early next month:
> 
> 
> 
> How the election was stolen in 2004 and how the Right will steal it again in
> 2006: An Evening with Mark Crispin Miller, Author of Fooled Again
> 
> WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH, 7PM,
> OAKLAND GRAND LAKE THEATER
> 3200 Grand Avenue,
> Oakland Box Office
> (510)452-3556,
> Tickets are $10
> grandlaketheater.com
> (co-sponsored by DemocracyAction,
> Election Defense Alliance, Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club) The evening 
> includes: STEALING AMERICA: Vote by Vote
> a New Feature-length Documentary by EMMY-winning, OSCAR-nominated filmmaker
> Dorothy Fadiman
> 
> THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5TH - 7:30PM,
> SAN FRANCISCO ROXIE FILM CTR
> 3117 16TH Street @Valencia,
> SF Box Office (415)863-1087,
> Tickets are $10
> Buy advance tickets
> roxie.com
> (co-sponsored by SF for Democracy, Democracy Action,
> Election Defense Alliance)
> 
> FRIDAY, OCTOBER 6TH - 7:00PM,
> Ted Adcock Center
> 535 Kelly St. Half Moon Bay
> Tickets are $10
> Special guests include:
> Alan Dechert, Open Voting Consortium
> Jim March, Activist, Author of "The Jim March Papers"
> (co-sponsored by Concerned Citizens of San Mateo County -
> wallace.mckenzie[at]gmail.com)
> 
> SATURDAY, OCT 7TH - 3PM,
> BERKELEY MARINA DOUBLETREE HOTEL 
> ACLU + BARC (Berkeley, Albany, Richmond, Kensington) Annual Chapter Meeting
> US Elections: Two Views With Mark Crispin Miller and Andrew Gumbel, author 
> of "Steal This Vote" (sponsored by BARC+ACLU Annual Meeting, for more info
> call 510-525-9223)
> 
> SATURDAY, OCT 7TH - 7:30PM,
> Ingram Hall, First Presbyterian Church
> 1550 Pacific Avenue, Santa Rosa
> Donation: $10
> Sponsored by Sonoma County Election Defense Committee, Progressive Democrats
> Sonoma County

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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Oct  4 08:07:45 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:07:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KTVU covers Mountain View Forum
Message-ID: <4523CE41.1010407@charter.net>

Maybe the leading nightly news in the bay area is the 10:00 news from 
Fox affiliate KTVU in Oakland.  Last night, they spent considerable time 
on the Santa Clara County GP sponsored Green Candidates forum.  KTVU's 
South Bay Bureau Chief, Lloyd LaCuesta, covered the session and managed 
to have on-air comments from Todd Chretien, Forrest Hill, Mike Wyman and 
Jo Chamberlain speaking for Peter Camejo. LaCuseta also cited Camejo's 
request to be included in the gubernatorial debates.

This is an extention of the coverage that they have given Green Party 
connected individuals.  Randy Shandobil, KTVU's Political Editor, had a 
recent in-depth profile of Medea Benjamin. 

All in all, it was a very positive presentation of the party.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 08:18:24 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] e Got Great Coverage on TV Last Night - Getting
	Video on Web
Message-ID: <20061004151824.91579.qmail@web52213.mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings Greens,

KTVU Channel 2's Loyd La Cuesta
http://www.ktvu.com/station/1849425/detail.html  did a very favorable
live report last night on their 10pm newscast!  Awesome!  Now how about
us getting that clip up on the web???  I (and I think Carol) got it on
VHS, but I don't have a good way to convert it.  Below are several
services that we could pay to get that clip.  I suggest we spend the $$
and get it up on the web ASAP!!!  Maybe GPCA could help us with this
since it would be beneficial to our whole party.  Cameo got coverage
(despite not making it), so maybe his campaign would chip in some $$.

The report had footage of Cameo (yes, despite not being there),
Chamberlin, Chretien, Hill, Wyman, Brouillet, Harter.  Hard hitting
material!  Great quotes from Chamberlin, Brouillet, Wyman and Chretien
in particular. (Wells didn't make the clip unfortunately :-(   )

I counted 56 attendees last night and we brought in something like
$650.  The real payoff for us would probably be in getting this video
and the one that Roy took up on the web.  There was also an Austrian
crew there and a web site reporter (and when I have URLs for them I'll
post them).  All in all a great event!  Good for us!

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

>From KTVU FAQ
Q: I saw myself on one of your newscasts. Can I obtain a copy of the
tape?

A: KTVU does not provide tapes or transcripts of its news programming
to viewers. (Commercial program producers should check our guidelines
regarding sales policies and procedures.)

For viewers interested in buying a copy of a news program for personal
use, there are companies that do sell such tapes. They are not
connected directly, indirectly, or financially with KTVU/Fox 2. These
companies set their own rates for this service. KTVU/Fox 2 has no
control over their business practices.

Here are some companies providing dubs of KTVU/Fox 2 newscasts.

Original Video 510-865-2103
News Duplicating Service   925-946-9856
Multivision 800-560-0111
http://www.multivisioninc.com/referral/KTVU.html
Videowatch 415-381-0176
Video Monitoring Service   415-543-3361

JamBoi
Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 17:19:02 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:19:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Thank you so much KTVU for Green Party piece!
Message-ID: <20061005001902.87095.qmail@web52210.mail.yahoo.com>



--- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:12:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Thank you so much KTVU for Green Party piece!
> To: llacuesta at ktvu.com, news at ktvu.com, joc at pobox.com,
> info at todd4senate.org, 
>     info at laurawells.org, info at VoteForrest.org, vote4mike at comcast.net,
> 
>     cbrouillet at igc.org, tnharter at ispwest.com
> 
> Thank you Lloyd, Eric (sp?) on camera and KTVU Newsroom,
> 
> We want to thank you for a truly fair and balanced piece yesterday
> about the Green Party of California's slate of candidates. On behalf
> of
> the Green Party of Santa Clara, the Green Party of California and the
> campaigns of Todd Chretien for US Senate, Peter Cameo for Governor,
> Forrest Hill for Secretary of State, Mike Wyman for Attorney General,
> Laura Wells for Controller, Carol Brouillet for Cong (14th dist) and
> Tian Harter for Mtn Vw City Council, we thank you!
> 
> We apologize that Peter Camejo was not available for the event and
> thank you for your graceful coverage of his candidacy in your report.
> 
> Question: Will this piece go up on your Election2006 web page?
> 
> 
> A Million Votes for Peace,
> 
> Drew Johnson
> Green Party of Santa Clara County: http://cagreens.org/sclara
> Green Party of California: http://cagreens.org
> 
> Todd Chretien for Senate, info at todd4senate.org, 
>      http://www.todd4senate.org
> Jo Chamberlin, Campaign Manager for Peter Cameo, joc at pobox.com
>      http://www.votecamejo.com/
> Mike Wyman for Attorney General vote4mike at comcast.net,
>      http://votewyman.org/
> Forrest Hill for Secretary of State info at VoteForrest.org,
>      http://www.voteforrest.org/
> Laura Wells for Controller, info at laurawells.org,  
>      http://www.laurawells.org
> Carol Brouillet for Congress (14th Dist.)  cbrouillet at igc.org, 
>      http://www.carolforcongress.org/
> Tian Harter for Mtn Vw City Council, tnharter at ispwest.com
>      http://tian.greens.org/
> 
> JamBoi
> Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer
> 
> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> 
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From gyral at yahoo.com  Wed Oct  4 20:11:04 2006
From: gyral at yahoo.com (Sam Rafter)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 20:11:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] OT - video transfer recommendation
In-Reply-To: <mailman.27.1159988404.20056.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <20061005031105.96082.qmail@web42106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A relatively easy way to transfer VHS to a digital format is to use a DV camera
/ recorder as an interrim.  Get a DV video camera and hook the VCR out into the
camera's input.  Once the footage is on DV tape, hook the camera up to a
computer (via USB or firewire), and there are scads of programs to capture DV
to various video file types.

YouTube here we come!

-Sam

> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 08:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] e Got Great Coverage on TV Last Night -
> 	Getting	Video on Web
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Message-ID: <20061004151824.91579.qmail at web52213.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Greetings Greens,
> 
> KTVU Channel 2's Loyd La Cuesta
> http://www.ktvu.com/station/1849425/detail.html  did a very favorable
> live report last night on their 10pm newscast!  Awesome!  Now how about
> us getting that clip up on the web???  I (and I think Carol) got it on
> VHS, but I don't have a good way to convert it.  Below are several
> services that we could pay to get that clip.  I suggest we spend the $$
> and get it up on the web ASAP!!!  Maybe GPCA could help us with this
> since it would be beneficial to our whole party.  Cameo got coverage
> (despite not making it), so maybe his campaign would chip in some $$.
> 
> The report had footage of Cameo (yes, despite not being there),
> Chamberlin, Chretien, Hill, Wyman, Brouillet, Harter.  Hard hitting
> material!  Great quotes from Chamberlin, Brouillet, Wyman and Chretien
> in particular. (Wells didn't make the clip unfortunately :-(   )
> 
> I counted 56 attendees last night and we brought in something like
> $650.  The real payoff for us would probably be in getting this video
> and the one that Roy took up on the web.  There was also an Austrian
> crew there and a web site reporter (and when I have URLs for them I'll
> post them).  All in all a great event!  Good for us!
> 
> A Million Votes for Peace!
> 
> Drew
> 
> >From KTVU FAQ
> Q: I saw myself on one of your newscasts. Can I obtain a copy of the
> tape?
> 
> A: KTVU does not provide tapes or transcripts of its news programming
> to viewers. (Commercial program producers should check our guidelines
> regarding sales policies and procedures.)
> 
> For viewers interested in buying a copy of a news program for personal
> use, there are companies that do sell such tapes. They are not
> connected directly, indirectly, or financially with KTVU/Fox 2. These
> companies set their own rates for this service. KTVU/Fox 2 has no
> control over their business practices.
> 
> Here are some companies providing dubs of KTVU/Fox 2 newscasts.
> 
> Original Video 510-865-2103
> News Duplicating Service   925-946-9856
> Multivision 800-560-0111
> http://www.multivisioninc.com/referral/KTVU.html
> Videowatch 415-381-0176
> Video Monitoring Service   415-543-3361
> 
> JamBoi
> Jammy The Sacred Cow Slayer
> 
> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com


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From baalavi at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  7 06:49:15 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 06:49:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Did My Bike Help?
Message-ID: <20061007134915.27371.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com>

Last Thursday (10/5), I parked my bike -- properly -- on the bicycle rack -- in front of the entrance to El Camino Hospital ALL DAY.  The "special effect" was it had Tian Harter's Lawn Sign ( http://tian.greens.org/ ) mounted on it -- all day!  Right in front of the entrace that had a lot more traffic, with much better visibility than my lawn!
   
  Was that a better use of the lawn sign -- in front of the entrance than my yard?  
   
  At any rate, on the way back, around 5 PM, watching the traffic going down Grant Road, I figured it was at least 100 times more than what passed in front of my yard.  So, guess what?
   
  Right.  I promptly placed the lawn sign at GRANT and SLEEPER.  Right & Ready in front of the heavy commuter traffic eyes.
   
  Every Green I know seems to have a bike to ride and a couple to spare.  My question is:
   
  Can we make a good use of those bikes THROUGH NOV. 7, to publicize Green Candidates?  
   
  THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:  I am going to rotate my spare bike in front of "Safeway, Albertsons, Nob Hill, and yes CALTRAIN".  If you think it may be effective, pass the idea on to State and National Greens.  Then remeber BART, Major intersections, FWY overpasses ...  I only subscribe locally here to "sosfbay".
   
  (Keep an eye out for the parked bicycle bearing a Green Candidate Lawn Sign :)))) at your favorite local marketplace :))))
   
  THOUGHT 2:  Can we expand that theme by placing signs elsewhere?  (Hint:  A couple of weeks ago, in a neighborhood picnic in the park, I tied some HELIUM BALLOONS to that bike, then placed it right on the entry path to Picnic Area; of course with an 8.5 x 11 candidate sign that was printed by the computer!
   
  THOUGHT 3:  How can YOU increase your one vote, towards that 1,000,000?
   

 				
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From baalavi at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  7 07:14:07 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 07:14:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] VOTE GREEN
Message-ID: <20061007141407.94460.qmail@web52107.mail.yahoo.com>

Check out www.votegreen.com &/or www.votegreen.org 
   
  Quite simple and subtle?  
   
  Then check:  " http://artcontext.org/votegreen/index.php " or others...
   
  What's the most effective and economic way to ATTRACT PUBLIC ATTENTION to "VOTE GREEN?"

 		
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From gyral at yahoo.com  Sat Oct  7 18:15:33 2006
From: gyral at yahoo.com (Sam Rafter)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 18:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] getting the word out
In-Reply-To: <mailman.31.1160247607.28040.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <20061008011534.20309.qmail@web42110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the message about the bike signs!  It inspired a potentially useful
idea.

One way to raise voter awareness might be through KPFA.  They announce that if
your non-profit organization volunteers to staff the phones during the pledge
drive they will credit your organization on the air.  I don't know if there are
limitations on political organizations, but KPFA listeners seem to be a good
demographic to go after.

I've read people on this list have contact with various media organizations. 
Has anyone investigated the feasibility of such a ploy?  I was going to pass
this idea along to the Camejo organization, since they're based in the Oakland
/ Berkeley area already, and could probably get staff on the phone, but if this
a known bad idea I'll stop distributing it.

Thanks for reading!

-Sam


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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Mon Oct  9 00:18:48 2006
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 00:18:48 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NEWS ADVISORY: Gubernatorial debate Saturday to
 bepicketed by Green Party candidate Peter Camejo
Message-ID: <4529F7D8.4070107@ispwest.com>

URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
Saturday, October 7, 2006


Gubernatorial debate Saturday to be picketed
by Green Party candidate Peter Camejo, who
says debate is an ?insult' to California voters

SACRAMENTO ? Green Party gubernatorial candidate Peter Camejo will join a
picket line here Saturday to criticize the only televised governor's debate
as an "insult" to voters and part of a plan by Democrats and Republicans to
limit the choices Californians have at the polls.

The Green Party picket begins Saturday, at 5 p.m. just outside the debate
room at CSUS. Camejo will hold a news conference at the start of the picket.

Camejo cited a nonpartisan opinion poll last month shows that as many as 63
percent of likely voters with an opinion favor the inclusion of him in any
debate.

"The poll shows that the two corporate-funded candidates who fill the
airwaves with tens of millions of dollars in advertising, and receive the
bulk of news coverage are not the only candidates Californians want to
hear. To deny voters their wishes by excluding me from debates in
undemocratic, and an insult to voters," said Camejo.

"To exclude me from the debates benefits only the Democrats and
Republicans. It limits the choices and information that voters deserve,"
said Camejo, who was considered, in surveys of news media and public, the
winner of the 2003 recall election debates

"This race is over. Phil Angelides cannot overcome the huge lead of the
incumbent governor. People will waste their vote if they vote for Phil now.
Instead, voters should send a clear message, by voting Green, that they
want the rich to pay their fair share of taxes, that they want a clean
environment and they want us out of Iraq now," he added.


-- 
Tian
Latest website change: Added Campaign funraiser pictures.
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854



From jims at greens.org  Mon Oct  9 18:03:39 2006
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:03:39 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Local Prop 89 Meeting
Message-ID: <452AF16B.CBCBC1A4@greens.org>

I got a call from Common Cause, who are holding a meeting this Thursday to
kick off their "Yes on 89" campaign. This is the prop for public financing
of elections. 

I have a teleconference that night so I can't make it to their event. I said
I would spread this around the GP. So, if anyone is interested in going and
can report back to our group, please attend. And anyone who wants to get
involved with local promotion efforts can attend.

MLK Library room 255
Thursday, 10/12, 6:30 pm

The contact is Dave Algoso, dalgoso at commoncause.org


-- 
Jim



From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Oct 10 09:06:11 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:06:11 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Global Exchange targets Pombo
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From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Oct 10 13:45:55 2006
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:45:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election Fraud
In-Reply-To: <20061003224527.72602.qmail@web52109.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061003224527.72602.qmail@web52109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E0D36929-98BF-477C-963D-00983E937C1F@cagreens.org>

Bob,

Then there is the issue of the absentee ballots not being counted if  
the numbers can't affect the outcome because one candidate is far  
ahead.  One wonders how third parties are affected by this, as their  
votes can be lost in this protocol.

Then again remember the ballots floating in SF Bay a few elections back!

Andrea

On Oct 3, 2006, at 3:45 PM, Bob Alavi wrote:

> I have often thought of this.   Past a certain LOCAL level,  
> elections become irrelevant ... so why not just toss the names in a  
> hat and draw one?
>
> While it will be much less expensive and simpler than what we have  
> today; it couldn't be worse.
>
> ba
>
> Sam Rafter <gyral at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm glad to see more people discussing election fraud! The  
> simplistic solution
> I've been advocating is for everyone to vote by absentee ballot.  
> It's hard not
> to have a paper trail that way. For slightly more info on this  
> topic, check
> this out:
>
> http://www.verifiedvoting.org/
>
> -Sam
>
> > Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:45:31 -0700
> > From: "Cameron L. Spitzer"
> > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Election Fraud Stuff" from Brian Good
> > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> > Message-ID:
> >
> >
> > Brian sent this to four mailing lists at once, which triggered
> > the recipient filter in Mailman. As list owner, I told
> > him how to fix it so it would go through, but he never did.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> >
> > Subject: Election Fraud Stuff
> > Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:28:24 -0700
> > From: "Brian Good"
> > To: [six addresses]
> >
> > RFK has another election article in yesterday's Rolling Stone  
> "Will The
> > Next Election Be Hacked?"
> >
> >
> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/ 
> robert_f_kennedy_jr__will_the_next_election_be_hacked
> >
> > Read his June article about the Ohio irregularities here:
> >
> > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/ 
> was_the_2004_election_stolen
> >
> > (I can provide paper copies upon request)
> >
> > Princeton University recently released a study showing that  
> Diebold machines
> > could be
> > hacked in less than a minute by one person implanting a virus  
> that would
> > then propagate
> > to other machines.
> >
> > Mark Crispin Miller is barnstorming in the Bay Area early next  
> month:
> >
> >
> >
> > How the election was stolen in 2004 and how the Right will steal  
> it again in
> > 2006: An Evening with Mark Crispin Miller, Author of Fooled Again
> >
> > WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH, 7PM,
> > OAKLAND GRAND LAKE THEATER
> > 3200 Grand Avenue,
> > Oakland Box Office
> > (510)452-3556,
> > Tickets are $10
> > grandlaketheater.com
> > (co-sponsored by DemocracyAction,
> > Election Defense Alliance, Wellstone Democratic Renewal Club) The  
> evening
> > includes: STEALING AMERICA: Vote by Vote
> > a New Feature-length Documentary by EMMY-winning, OSCAR-nominated  
> filmmaker
> > Dorothy Fadiman
> >
> > THURSDAY, OCTOBER 5TH - 7:30PM,
> > SAN FRANCISCO ROXIE FILM CTR
> > 3117 16TH Street @Valencia,
> > SF Box Office (415)863-1087,
> > Tickets are $10
> > Buy advance tickets
> > roxie.com
> > (co-sponsored by SF for Democracy, Democracy Action,
> > Election Defense Alliance)
> >
> > FRIDAY, OCTOBER 6TH - 7:00PM,
> > Ted Adcock Center
> > 535 Kelly St. Half Moon Bay
> > Tickets are $10
> > Special guests include:
> > Alan Dechert, Open Voting Consortium
> > Jim March, Activist, Author of "The Jim March Papers"
> > (co-sponsored by Concerned Citizens of San Mateo County -
> > wallace.mckenzie[at]gmail.com)
> >
> > SATURDAY, OCT 7TH - 3PM,
> > BERKELEY MARINA DOUBLETREE HOTEL
> > ACLU + BARC (Berkeley, Albany, Richmond, Kensington) Annual  
> Chapter Meeting
> > US Elections: Two Views With Mark Crispin Miller and Andrew  
> Gumbel, author
> > of "Steal This Vote" (sponsored by BARC+ACLU Annual Meeting, for  
> more info
> > call 510-525-9223)
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From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Oct 10 13:51:47 2006
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:51:47 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Did My Bike Help?
In-Reply-To: <20061007134915.27371.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061007134915.27371.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4479D9A9-A798-496F-AE8F-3CCCE3C59FDA@cagreens.org>

I cannot believe how crafty you guys are getting:  helium balloons,  
bikes with trailers, now parking bikes in public or heavy-foot- 
traffic areas!  You are amazing!
Andrea  :- )

On Oct 7, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Bob Alavi wrote:

> Last Thursday (10/5), I parked my bike -- properly -- on the  
> bicycle rack -- in front of the entrance to El Camino Hospital ALL  
> DAY.  The "special effect" was it had Tian Harter's Lawn Sign  
> ( http://tian.greens.org/ ) mounted on it -- all day!  Right in  
> front of the entrace that had a lot more traffic, with much better  
> visibility than my lawn!
>
> Was that a better use of the lawn sign -- in front of the entrance  
> than my yard?
>
> At any rate, on the way back, around 5 PM, watching the traffic  
> going down Grant Road, I figured it was at least 100 times more  
> than what passed in front of my yard.  So, guess what?
>
> Right.  I promptly placed the lawn sign at GRANT and SLEEPER.   
> Right & Ready in front of the heavy commuter traffic eyes.
>
> Every Green I know seems to have a bike to ride and a couple to  
> spare.  My question is:
>
> Can we make a good use of those bikes THROUGH NOV. 7, to publicize  
> Green Candidates?
>
> THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:  I am going to rotate my spare bike in front  
> of "Safeway, Albertsons, Nob Hill, and yes CALTRAIN".  If you think  
> it may be effective, pass the idea on to State and National  
> Greens.  Then remeber BART, Major intersections, FWY  
> overpasses ...  I only subscribe locally here to "sosfbay".
>
> (Keep an eye out for the parked bicycle bearing a Green Candidate  
> Lawn Sign :)))) at your favorite local marketplace :))))
>
> THOUGHT 2:  Can we expand that theme by placing signs elsewhere?   
> (Hint:  A couple of weeks ago, in a neighborhood picnic in the  
> park, I tied some HELIUM BALLOONS to that bike, then placed it  
> right on the entry path to Picnic Area; of course with an 8.5 x 11  
> candidate sign that was printed by the computer!
>
> THOUGHT 3:  How can YOU increase your one vote, towards that  
> 1,000,000?
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Oct 10 13:57:12 2006
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:57:12 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] getting the word out
In-Reply-To: <20061008011534.20309.qmail@web42110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20061008011534.20309.qmail@web42110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CF26F3E6-2BC3-44C9-8626-CA49EB449061@cagreens.org>

Sam, I think it's a great idea.

I have been offended by the week-long platform on KPFA for the usual  
biennial whining of the Democratic Party about the urgency of getting  
the Republicans out of office and voting for Democrats to accomplish  
this. Like "voting for the lesser evil" has done such a great job for  
the last 12 to 16 years, eh?
Andrea

"We can have concentrated wealth in the hands of a few or we can have  
democracy, but we cannot have both."
---Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis


On Oct 7, 2006, at 6:15 PM, Sam Rafter wrote:

> Thanks for the message about the bike signs!  It inspired a  
> potentially useful
> idea.
>
> One way to raise voter awareness might be through KPFA.  They  
> announce that if
> your non-profit organization volunteers to staff the phones during  
> the pledge
> drive they will credit your organization on the air.  I don't know  
> if there are
> limitations on political organizations, but KPFA listeners seem to  
> be a good
> demographic to go after.
>
> I've read people on this list have contact with various media  
> organizations.
> Has anyone investigated the feasibility of such a ploy?  I was  
> going to pass
> this idea along to the Camejo organization, since they're based in  
> the Oakland
> / Berkeley area already, and could probably get staff on the phone,  
> but if this
> a known bad idea I'll stop distributing it.
>
> Thanks for reading!
>
> -Sam
>
>
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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Tue Oct 10 22:44:31 2006
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:44:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Tian needs help walking precincts!
Message-ID: <452C84BF.60007@ispwest.com>

Dear Friends,

The time has come in my campaign for City Council
where I need lots of help. The voters have woken up
to the fact there is a race going on here. I have done
the math and realized that without LOTS of help I
won't be able to inform all of the voters of Mountain View
about my campaign.

If you have a day or two to walk precincts in Mountain
View between now and the election it would make a big
difference in what my campaign is able to accomplish.
What I need is people to put fliers on the porches of voters,
there is no need to talk to anybody. I've done this many
times for other candidates, and it works out to a great
urban hike. You will enjoy it if the weather is good!

Saturdays and Sundays are the main mobilizations I'm
thinking about. Saturday I will be at home giving out
precinct walking kits until about 11 AM, when I plan to
go out and spend the rest of the day walking precincts
myself. Sunday I will be at the farmers market distributing
kits and tabling until about 1 PM, after which I will again
be walking myself.

Please call me at (650) 964-6481 to let me know you will
be there. I need a rough idea how many kits to make up
ahead of time. If you want to walk in a specific area also
specify that. We can win this race, but not without working!

-- 
Tian
Please come to Mountain View to walk a precinct for my campaign!
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854



From baalavi at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 11 08:04:17 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:04:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Tian needs help walking precincts!
In-Reply-To: <452C84BF.60007@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <20061011150417.58032.qmail@web52102.mail.yahoo.com>

Just a short note to consider...
   
  "Precinct Walk" packet has two parts:  
   
    1.  3" x 8" Flyers, and 
    2.  8.5 x 11" Address sheets (identifies addresses with VOTING HISTORY --  skip those who don't vote! )
   
  I have "walked" in two different ways:  
   
    1.  Holding the 8.5 x 11 address sheet in one hand, walking door to door (from numbers on address sheet, then dropped a flyer & made short squiggly notes on the 8.5 x 11 address sheets...
   
    2.  BEFORE THE WALK, "Marked the street numbers" on flyers, then held a stack of them in hand, THEN ZIPPED DOOR TO DOOR ON A BIKE.  I think this was MUCH FASTER and better use of my time.  (Anyone willing to try rollerblades, skates?   ... ?    :)  
  [PS: Did the notes too ... on  a small pad, later transferred to 8.5 x 11]
   
  Our given instructions suggested the first method. 
  Method #2 might be new and untried.  It may need more thinking, but seemed to be a lot more efficient & expedient.  I am sure like everything else it has plusses ans minusses. 

  later,
  ba
  
Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:
  Dear Friends,

The time has come in my campaign for City Council
where I need lots of help. The voters have woken up
to the fact there is a race going on here. I have done
the math and realized that without LOTS of help I
won't be able to inform all of the voters of Mountain View
about my campaign.

If you have a day or two to walk precincts in Mountain
View between now and the election it would make a big
difference in what my campaign is able to accomplish.
What I need is people to put fliers on the porches of voters,
there is no need to talk to anybody. I've done this many
times for other candidates, and it works out to a great
urban hike. You will enjoy it if the weather is good!

Saturdays and Sundays are the main mobilizations I'm
thinking about. Saturday I will be at home giving out
precinct walking kits until about 11 AM, when I plan to
go out and spend the rest of the day walking precincts
myself. Sunday I will be at the farmers market distributing
kits and tabling until about 1 PM, after which I will again
be walking myself.

Please call me at (650) 964-6481 to let me know you will
be there. I need a rough idea how many kits to make up
ahead of time. If you want to walk in a specific area also
specify that. We can win this race, but not without working!

-- 
Tian
Please come to Mountain View to walk a precinct for my campaign!
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854

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From cbrouillet at igc.org  Thu Oct 12 09:48:38 2006
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:48:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 9/11 Press for Truth- Palo Alto Oct. 27th
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20061012094243.043b7558@igc.org>

Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance, http://www.communitycurrency.org
Carol Brouillet- 650-857-0927, cbrouillet at igc.org

9/11 Press for Truth Premieres in Palo Alto
Authors Echo Family Victims' Demand for a Real Investigation

      Friday, October 27th, 2006, at 7 pm, at Spangenberg Theater, 
Gunn High School, 780 Arastradero Road, Palo Alto, Northern 
California 9-11 Truth Alliance will premiere the excellent 
documentary- 9/11 Press for Truth to be followed by a discussion with 
the film's hero, Paul Thompson, author of The Terror Timeline (Harper 
Collins 2004) and author Peter Dale Scott, who wrote Drugs, Oil, and 
War- The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina 
(2003), edited (with David Ray Griffin) 9/11 and American Empire, and 
wrote The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America 
(which will be published in 2007).

Following the attacks of September 11th, grieving families waged a 
tenacious battle against those who sought to bury the truth about the 
attack, including the Bush administration. In "9/11 Press For Truth," 
those most affected by the tragedy, including three of the Jersey 
Girls, tell the story of how they took on the powers in Washington 
and won. They forced an investigation, only to subsequently watch the 
9/11 Commission fail to even ask their most urgent questions.

Adapting Paul Thompson's Complete 9/11 Timeline 
(http://www.complete911timeline.org), the film stitches together news 
clips, buried stories and government press conferences, revealing a 
pattern of official lies, deception and spin. Thompson's narrative 
presents a different picture of 9/11, one that raises new, more 
pressing questions.

What actions were taken by top government officials who received 
dozens of specific warnings before the attack? Was Bin Laden and his 
top al Qaeda leadership allowed to escape in Afghanistan? What has 
been the reason for obscuring the evidence regarding the Pakistani 
connection? Why, five years later, are so many of the families' 
questions still unanswered?

Both authors have researched the CIA, Al Qaeda, the links between the 
US government and the terrorists.  In addition to the issues and 
questions raised by the film, they will look at the films' omissions, 
including who was in command on 9/11, and the multiple wargames that 
were being conducted that day which challenge the official story and 
underline the urgency of investigating the crime of the century.

Tickets are $5, students with ID are free. More information- For more 
info call Carol at 650-857-0927.  Proceeds benefit the Northern 
California 9-11 Truth Alliance whose mission is:

"to seek and disseminate truths about the terrible crimes committed 
on September 11, 2001, exposing gaps and deceptions in the official 
story, and to thus inspire more eyewitness revelations, truthful 
media coverage, and a movement that will bring the responsible 
criminals to justice and eliminate governmental and corporate 
policies that enable criminal elements to commit such acts."

***For the past 5 years, most of my work has been to expose the truth 
about 9/11; the 9/11 truth movement is drawing national attention- 
and I think the best thing I can do is help break the critical issues 
into mainstream consciousness.  Most of the events I've organized 
have been in SF and Oakland, besides my weekly Listening Project in 
downtown Palo Alto.  I could sure use some help- volunteers for this 
event.  We hope to fill the 900 seat theater- and get Thompson and 
Peter Dale Scott's damning info on the incestuous links between "Al 
Qaeda ops" and the US government into the spotlight.



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Thu Oct 12 13:27:46 2006
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:27:46 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Did My Bike Help?
In-Reply-To: <20061007134915.27371.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061007134915.27371.qmail@web52113.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <452EA542.5090105@ispwest.com>

Bob Alavi wrote:

> Last Thursday (10/5), I parked my bike -- properly -- on the bicycle 
> rack -- in front of the entrance to El Camino Hospital ALL DAY.  The 
> "special effect" was it had Tian Harter's Lawn Sign 
> ( http://tian.greens.org/ ) mounted on it -- all day!  Right in front 
> of the entrace that had a lot more traffic, with much better 
> visibility than my lawn!

I took a picture of it today:

http://tianharter.org/Endorsements4Nov7th.html

>  
> Was that a better use of the lawn sign -- in front of 
> the entrance than my yard?

I saw half a dozen people read it in the brief period I was there. Good Job!

>  
> At any rate, on the way back, around 5 PM, watching the traffic going 
> down Grant Road, I figured it was at least 100 times more than what 
> passed in front of my yard.  So, guess what?
>  
> Right.  I promptly placed the lawn sign at GRANT and SLEEPER.  Right & 
> Ready in front of the heavy commuter traffic eyes.

Did it dissapear after that. Jac Seigal told me that was the lawn of his 
friends house.

>  
> Every Green I know seems to have a bike to ride and a couple to 
> spare.  My question is:
>  
> Can we make a good use of those bikes THROUGH NOV. 7, to publicize 
> Green Candidates?

I just wired a lawn sign onto my bike. Looks good there!

>  
> THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:  I am going to rotate my spare bike in front of 
> "Safeway, Albertsons, Nob Hill, and yes CALTRAIN".  If you think it 
> may be effective, pass the idea on to State and National Greens.  Then 
> remeber BART, Major intersections, FWY overpasses ...  I only 
> subscribe locally here to "sosfbay".
>  
> (Keep an eye out for the parked bicycle bearing a Green Candidate Lawn 
> Sign :)))) at your favorite local marketplace :))))

I still have about 40 lawn signs...

-- 
Tian
Please come to Mountain View to walk a precinct for my campaign!
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 13 18:20:03 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:20:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] TV Coverage of Our Candidate Forum on YouTube NOW!
Message-ID: <20061014012004.38801.qmail@web52207.mail.yahoo.com>

Yeah!!!!!!!!!  Thanks to Jo Chamberlain & Forrest Hill y'all can now
link to the awesome news coverage bay area KTVU Channel 2 did on our
statewide candidates.  Forrest has provided the HTML code needed to
give a nice link on your web page (below).  Please watch and recommend
this video! http://www.youtube.com/v/WtvbOnFx3m0

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- Jo Chamberlain <joc at pobox.com> wrote:

> Drew and Mike,
> 
> Forrest got the KTVU 3 minutes up on youtube.
> 
> 
> >Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:44:34 -0700
> >From: forrest at voteforrest.org
> >Subject: Code for KTVU video
> >To: Jo Chamberlain <joc at pobox.com>
> >
> >Hi Jo
> >
> >   Here's the code. Got to run...Forrest

NOTE: You can adjust the size of the video frame by altering the width
and height numbers below.  A large screen would be 700 x 700.

<object width="425" height="350">
<param name="movie">
<value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WtvbOnFx3m0">
</param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WtvbOnFx3m0"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="700" height="700"></embed>
</object> 


> >
> >Forrest Hill for Secretary of State
> >815 Washington Street
> >Suite 24
> >Oakland CA 94607
> >
> >Web: www.VoteForrest.org
> >Phone: 415-893-0073
> >
> >Paid for by Friends of Forrest for Secretary of State FPPC# 1280644
> 
> 
> -- 
> /Jo Chamberlain.


--- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Greetings Greens,
> 
> KTVU Channel 2's Loyd La Cuesta
> http://www.ktvu.com/station/1849425/detail.html  did a very favorable
> live report last night on their 10pm newscast!  Awesome!  Now how
> about
> us getting that clip up on the web???  I (and I think Carol) got it
> on
> VHS, but I don't have a good way to convert it.  Below are several
> services that we could pay to get that clip.  I suggest we spend the
> $$
> and get it up on the web ASAP!!!  Maybe GPCA could help us with this
> since it would be beneficial to our whole party.  Cameo got coverage
> (despite not making it), so maybe his campaign would chip in some $$.
> 
> The report had footage of Cameo (yes, despite not being there),
> Chamberlin, Chretien, Hill, Wyman, Brouillet, Harter.  Hard hitting
> material!  Great quotes from Chamberlin, Brouillet, Wyman and
> Chretien
> in particular. (Wells didn't make the clip unfortunately :-(   )
> 
> I counted 56 attendees last night and we brought in something like
> $650.  The real payoff for us would probably be in getting this video
> and the one that Roy took up on the web.  There was also an Austrian
> crew there and a web site reporter (and when I have URLs for them
> I'll
> post them).  All in all a great event!  Good for us!
> 
> A Million Votes for Peace!
> 
> Drew

JamBoi
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 13 21:52:12 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:52:12 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KTVU Video
Message-ID: <45306CFC.8010207@charter.net>

Got it up on cagreening.blogspot.com

-- 
Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com

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From baalavi at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 14 19:24:18 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Greens in Ch 2 KTVU video.
Message-ID: <20061015022418.60312.qmail@web52101.mail.yahoo.com>


http://www.youtube.com/v/WtvbOnFx3m0



 		
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From baalavi at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 18 10:54:20 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:54:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Campaign -- Lawn Sign in Mt. View CalTrain
	Station today 10/18
In-Reply-To: <4535E7EF.5020203@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <20061018175421.35643.qmail@web52110.mail.yahoo.com>

I really think we may get good mileage with "Candidate Lawn Signs" on our bikes -- parked legitimately on Bike Racks in prominently visible places.
   
  Today (Wed 10/18) Tian's Sign is in Mountain View Caltrain Station (of course on my spare bike).  See http://tianharter.org/Endorsements4Nov7th.html for a photo of the bike in front of El Camino Hospital, at the bottom of the page.
   
  We have THREE WEEKENDS before Nov. 7.  Anybody care to join in "Campaign Bike Ride"?  Tian had a contraption to attach a Lawn Sign to his bike-carrier-rack and ride it around.  I love to see Greens do that across the state & country.  Any ideas how we may promote and coordinate that with each other as well as other [Green] Groups?
   
  We may not be able to afford TV ads, but with some effort, creativity, and talent, we may be able to impress some voters with visual effects!
   
  Bob



 		
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From jims at greens.org  Wed Oct 18 18:21:03 2006
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:21:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: RSVP:  Please forward to your listserves,
 etc.: KPFA "LSB" Endorsements from the Green Party of Alameda
 County]
Message-ID: <4536D2FF.41386460@greens.org>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RSVP: Please forward to your listserves, etc.: KPFA "LSB"
         Endorsements from the Green Party of Alameda County
   Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:47:19 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Greg Jan <gregjan4 at yahoo.com>
    

 Dear Greens,      

Below is a message from the Green Party of
Alameda County that we would like for you to forward to Greens in
your county, via your listserves, e-mail lists, etc.  (Unless of
course you have your own list of KPFA "LSB" endorsements that
you're sending to them -- if so, please let us know -- let's see
if we're "mostly on the same page", or not!).     

 Please forward
the message below as soon as you possibly can, as the voting
period has now begun, and many KPFA members are already receiving
"campaign information" from the candidates!      If you have any
questions, please contact me by e-mail, or at (510) 444-7336.
Thanks in advance for your help with this -- let's definitely (and
quickly!) try to get a KPFA Board that will clearly and firmly be
fair to the Green Party!

Sincerely,                   
Greg Jan                   
Green Party of Alameda County

PS -- Please reply back to this e-mail (or
telephone me) -- so I know you have received it, and will be
getting a message out promptly to the Greens in your county!
Thank you!


[ Subject line: ]KPFA "LSB" Endorsements from the Green
Party of Alameda County 

>From the Green Party of Alameda County: 

Dear Greens,
There is a very important election coming up for the KPFA Local
Station Board.

We urge every Green Party Member who is a member of KPFA to cast
their vote to help the Green Party.

For the Greens onemajor issue is the total lack of third party
coverage by KPFA. In an era when corporations own the media and
control both the Democratic and Republican parties, it is critical
that progressive voices like KPFA give voice to alternative
parties like the Green Party.
--------------------------------------------------------------

The Green Party of Alameda County endorses the following
candidates for the Local Station Board:

[ Alliance for a Democratic KPFA slate:]
1. Akio Tanaka- Green Party, Oak to Ninth Referendum Committee
2. Henry Norr- Green Party, journalist and peace activist
3. Dave Heller- Green Party, Californians for Electoral Reform
4. Bob English - labor activist
[Independents:]
5. Dave Welsh - journalist and labor activist
6. Vida Samiian -   Dean, Fresno State University
7. Jane Jackson ? Incumbent and civil rights activist
[Concerned Listeners:]
8. Phoebe Sorgen ? Green Party, Chair BFUU Social Justice
Committee
---------------------------------------------------------------

The ? Alliance for a democratic KPFA? is endorsed by the
following:
Peter Philips - (Project Censored- Sonoma State )
Lawrence Ferlinghetti - (Poet)
Jack Hirschman - (Poet laureate, SF)
Michael Parenti - (Author)
Terry Baum ? (Playwright)
Dennis Bernstein - (Executive Producer, Flashpoints)
Bonnie Faulkner - (Produce, Guns and Butter)
Riva Enteen - (National Lawyers Guild, KPFA LSB member)
Renee Saucedo - (Attorney, Civil Rights activist)
James Vann - (Architect, affordable housing activist)
Jack Heyman - (ILWU, Local 10)
Krissy Keefer - (Green Party candidate for Congress)
Aimee Allison - (Green Party candidate Oakland City Council, Dist.
2)


 (Partial list)
----------------------------------------------------------------

The basic issue of this election is whether the democratic reforms
that were put in place after the great Lock-Out will go forward so
that the listeners have an input in the governance of the station,
or whether the status quo will remain.

In the election there are two competing ?slates? and the
?independents?.

?Concerned Listener? slate is backed by the 'entrenched staff'
like Larry Bensky, Mark Mirecle, Phil Maldavi, and Sasha Lilly who
is opposing the implementation of democratic governance that
resulted from the settlement. They have enlisted people from the
Wellstone Democrats like Conn Hallinan to run on their slate. They
also include two incumbents, Mark Hernandez and Sarv Randhara, who
blocked the KPFA LSB support for the Berkeley Honda strikers.
?Alliance for a Democratic KPFA? slate is backed by the
'progressive staff' like Dennis Bernstein and Bonnie Faulkner. The
candidates include mostly peace and media activist like Henry
Norr, the SF Chronicle journalist who was fired for participating
in an anti-war march at the start of the Iraq War and also for
supporting the Palestinian cause.

Then there is a group of independents, which includes some very
capable and progressive candidates.



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Wed Oct 18 23:41:04 2006
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:41:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Tian's Campaign shifts into high gear!
Message-ID: <45371E00.5040403@ispwest.com>

The last week has been very busy for my campaign. I've attended two 
candidate forums, walked five precincts myself, and gotten together and 
distributed kits to half a dozen friends who have also been walking. 
Thanks to Bob, Jody, Bruce, Mike, Kyra, and Greg!

I still need more people who have a day or two to walk precincts in 
Mountain View between now and the election. It would make a big 
difference in what my campaign is able to accomplish. What I need is 
people to put fliers on the porches of voters, there is no need to talk 
to anybody. I've done this many times for other candidates, and it works 
out to a great urban hike. You will enjoy it if the weather is good!

Saturdays and Sundays are the main mobilizations I'm thinking about. 
Saturday I will be at home giving out precinct walking kits until about 
11 AM, when I plan to go out and spend the rest of the day walking 
precincts myself. Sunday I will be at the farmers market distributing 
kits and tabling until about 1 PM, after which I will again be walking 
myself.

If you would rather participate in a visibility project, Friday evening 
from 6 to 7 the Mountain View Voices for Peace vigil at the corner of El 
Camino & Castro. I always go, but lately I've been thinking "wouldn't it 
be great if we could make it into a campaign festivus?!" So come on down 
on Friday, and lets make a big show of it!

Next week on Tuesday and Thursday evenings I'll be having the big 
stuffing partys of the campaign. Please let me know if you can be there. 
We have to get 8000 postcards to voters in the mail. The gist of it can 
be seen at:

http://tianharter.org/PostcardRev2.html

BTW: If you have any suggestions about how to make the postcard more 
effective, I am all ears.

Please call me at (650) 964-6481 to let me know when you will be 
participating in the above. I need a rough idea how much prep work to do 
ahead of time. If you want to walk in a specific area also specify that. 
We can win this race, but not without working!

-- 
Tian
Please come to Mountain View to walk a precinct for my campaign!
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 19 01:00:19 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [usgp-media] SF Chronicle editors explain
	why they bar Greens from debates
Message-ID: <20061019080019.81116.qmail@web52213.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
> To: usgp-media at gp-us.org, natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org
> Subject: [usgp-media] SF Chronicle editors explain why they bar
> Greens from debates (fwd)
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:19:07 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> (Courtesy of Larry Gross; forwarded to me by
> Scott Tucker.  Note that SF Chronicle editor John
> Diaz, in providing these explanations, writes
> "Feel free to forward to Larry or Bob or anyone
> else who inquires." -- Scott)
> 
> 
> SF Chronicle and candidates:
> 
> Hello Larry (and Bob),
> 
> Here is the explanation from John Diaz, our
> editorial page editor, who made the decision to
> exclude all four third party candidates from the
> debate, for the reasons expressed below. Let me
> add that in local races, the editorial board
> always includes Green candidates along with Dems
> and Repubicans because in the Bay Area, they make
> a strong showing and actually have a chance of
> winning (witness the last mayor's race where a
> Dem -- Newsom -- and a Green - Gonzalez, made the
> runoff. In the race for US Senate, John
> interviewed the Green candidate because she stood
> a chance, not of beating Pelosi, but of getting
> as many votes statewide as the Republican.
> 
> Here are John's thoughts:
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diaz, John
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:20 AM
> To: Zacchino, Narda
> Subject: RE: What's the Chronicle up to?
> 
> 
> Hello Narda: Here is my thinking. Feel free to
> forward to Larry or Bob or anyone else who
> inquires. It really is the perpetual question we
> face in the media: Whether to provide "equal"
> coverage to minor party candidates and thus
> dilute the resources & attention we apply to the
> major party candidates. Neither Forrest Hill nor
> any of the minor-party candidates for secretary
> of state has shown any sign of becoming a factor
> in the race. I have been meeting, and will
> continue to meet, with Green Party candidates for
> various offices, but on a live Webcast, our time
> is inherently limited.
> 
> FYI, here's the statement I'm putting out for any
> media inquiries ...
> 
> There are six certified candidates for secretary
> of state. Two of them - Republican incumbent
> Bruce McPherson and Democrat Debra Bowen - have a
> plausible chance of winning. All indications are
> that this is an extremely close race and the two
> major-party candidates have two distinctly
> different visions about the role of secretary of
> state. This is their first - and only scheduled -
> debate of the campaign. So the question comes
> down to whether Californians would be better
> served by a more focused and extensive comparison
> of the two major-party candidates - one of whom
> will be secretary of state for the next four
> years - or a forum that also included the Green,
> Libertarian, American Independent and Peace and
> Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is that
> Californians need this chance to directly compare
> Bowen and McPherson.
> 
> -John
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zacchino, Narda
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:12 AM
> To: Diaz, John
> Subject: FW: What's the Chronicle up to?
> 
> 
> This is the chair of the communications
> department at usc
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Gross [mailto:lpgross at usc.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:00 AM
> To: Robert Scheer
> Subject: What's the Chronicle up to?
> 
> 
> Bob,
> what's this all about? What was Narda think about
> this exclusionary, anti-democratic decision by
> the Chronicle? Who decided to do this anyway, and
> why? Larry
> 
> 
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Larry Gross
> Professor and Director
> School of Communication
> Annenberg School
> University of Southern California
> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
> [213] 740-3770
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> 
> 
> > To: info at voteforrest.org
> > Subject: Weds. 1 pm: Debate Protest
> > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:01:02 -0700
> > From: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State 
> <info at voteforrest.org>
> > Reply-to: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State 
> <info at voteforrest.org>
> >
> >
> > PLEASE FORWARD
> >
> > Protest Forrest's exclusion from SF Debates
> >
> >
> > Forrest has called a press conference for
> tomorrow 
> (Weds.) at 1 pm to
> > protect his exclusion from the San Francisco
> Chronicle's 
> debate.
> >
> > We need your support to let the media know that
> it is no 
> longer
> > accepted to discriminate against third party
> candidates.
> >
> > If you live in the Bay Area please come down to
> KPIX-TV, 
> 855 Battery
> > St. San Francisco, at 1 p.m. and help us make
> some noise. 
> We will have
> 
> > signs, but feel free to bring your own.
> >
> > See press release below for details.
> >
> > URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
> > Tuesday October 17, 2006
> > Contact: Cres Vellucci, press secretary,
> 916.996-9170
> > civillib at cwnet.com
> >
> > ATTN: Daybook/Assignment Desk
> >
> > Chronicle called undemocratic by candidate
> > excluded from Secretary of State debate;
> Pickets
> > expected at campaign forum Wednesday
> >
> >
> > SAN FRANCISCO - Green Party Secretary of State
> candidate 
> Dr. Forrest
> > Hill charged today that the San Francisco
> Chronicle may 
> have excluded
> > him from a televised debate on Wednesday either
> because 
> the paper
> > "does not believe in democracy (or) because I
> am the only 
> openly gay
> > candidate running for statewide office."
> >
> > Hill has called a news conference - and a
> picket of the 
> debate -
> > WEDNESDAY,at KPIX-TV, 855 Battery St., at 1
> p.m., shortly 
> before the
> > debate is due to begin.
> >
> > The debate will feature incumbent Republican
> Bruce 
> McPherson and
> > Democrat Debra Bowen, but the Chronicle
> excluded Hill, 
> who has a
> > doctorate from the Massachusetts Institute of
> Technology 
> and is a
> > former campaign advisor to Ralph Nader.
> >
> > In a letter to the Chronicle, Hill said he
> found it 
> "simply
> > irresponsible for a powerful news outlet like
> the 
> Chronicle to limit
> > voter choices by promoting only two points of
> view...in a 
> city where
> > Greens often out poll Republicans.
> >
> > "The Chronicle has an opportunity to take the
> high road 
> by opening up
> > the debate to candidates running outside the
> two 
> mainstream parties.
> > (The Chronicle) can play an important role in
> rebuilding 
> confidence in
> our Democratic system by allowing me to take part
> in 
> Wednesday's
> Secretary of State debate," said Hill.
> > -30-
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 19 01:07:45 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 01:07:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors
	explain why they bar Greens from debates (fwd)
Message-ID: <20061019080745.12326.qmail@web52202.mail.yahoo.com>



--- civillib at cwnet.com wrote:

> To: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>,usgp-media at gp-us.org,
>  natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org
> From: civillib at cwnet.com
> CC: forrest_hill at comcast.net,forrest at voteforrest.org
> Subject: [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors explain why they bar
> Greens from
>  debates (fwd)
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:24:21 -0700
> 
> Thanks for this...I guess the Chronicle felt a little heat.
> 
> Just a side note, but I'm not sure who wrote - but it appears to be
> someone
> from the Chron and might explain how the know very little about
> Greens
> surprisingly - the message below that starts with ""Hello Larry..."
> but it
> is very much in error.
> 
> First, the email refers to a "Green (Matt) Gonzalez who "made the
> runoff."
> Played down just a bit. Matt entered the race very late, was outspent
> 10-1,
> the GOP and Dems sent big guns (from Clinton to Feinstein) in to back
> Newsom, and yet Newsom won by just a couple of percentage points. A
> little
> better than just making the runoff.
> 
> Second, it mentions the US Senate race, but says that "John"
> interviewed
> the Gree candidate "because she stood a a chance (mistake: it is a
> "he,"
> Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of beating Pelosi" (mistake: the
> incumbent is Feinstein). 
> 
> Yikes, makes me wonder if the Chronicle has any idea of what's up. As
> a
> former mainstream reporter for big dailies, let me say there was a
> reason
> reporters tried to stay far away from editorial board types.
> 
> Cres 
> 
> 
> At 10:19 PM 10/18/2006 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote:
> >(Courtesy of Larry Gross; forwarded to me by
> >Scott Tucker.  Note that SF Chronicle editor John
> >Diaz, in providing these explanations, writes
> >"Feel free to forward to Larry or Bob or anyone
> >else who inquires." -- Scott)
> >
> >SF Chronicle and candidates:
> >
> >Hello Larry (and Bob),
> >
> >Here is the explanation from John Diaz, our
> >editorial page editor, who made the decision to
> >exclude all four third party candidates from the
> >debate, for the reasons expressed below. Let me
> >add that in local races, the editorial board
> >always includes Green candidates along with Dems
> >and Repubicans because in the Bay Area, they make
> >a strong showing and actually have a chance of
> >winning (witness the last mayor's race where a
> >Dem -- Newsom -- and a Green - Gonzalez, made the
> >runoff. In the race for US Senate, John
> >interviewed the Green candidate because she stood
> >a chance, not of beating Pelosi, but of getting
> >as many votes statewide as the Republican.
> 
> >Here are John's thoughts:
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Diaz, John
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:20 AM
> >To: Zacchino, Narda
> >Subject: RE: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >
> >
> >Hello Narda: Here is my thinking. Feel free to
> >forward to Larry or Bob or anyone else who
> >inquires. It really is the perpetual question we
> >face in the media: Whether to provide "equal"
> >coverage to minor party candidates and thus
> >dilute the resources & attention we apply to the
> >major party candidates. Neither Forrest Hill nor
> >any of the minor-party candidates for secretary
> >of state has shown any sign of becoming a factor
> >in the race. I have been meeting, and will
> >continue to meet, with Green Party candidates for
> >various offices, but on a live Webcast, our time
> >is inherently limited.
> >
> >FYI, here's the statement I'm putting out for any
> >media inquiries ...
> >
> >There are six certified candidates for secretary
> >of state. Two of them - Republican incumbent
> >Bruce McPherson and Democrat Debra Bowen - have a
> >plausible chance of winning. All indications are
> >that this is an extremely close race and the two
> >major-party candidates have two distinctly
> >different visions about the role of secretary of
> >state. This is their first - and only scheduled -
> >debate of the campaign. So the question comes
> >down to whether Californians would be better
> >served by a more focused and extensive comparison
> >of the two major-party candidates - one of whom
> >will be secretary of state for the next four
> >years - or a forum that also included the Green,
> >Libertarian, American Independent and Peace and
> >Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is that
> >Californians need this chance to directly compare
> >Bowen and McPherson.
> >
> >-John
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Zacchino, Narda
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:12 AM
> >To: Diaz, John
> >Subject: FW: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >
> >
> >This is the chair of the communications
> >department at usc
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Larry Gross [mailto:lpgross at usc.edu]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:00 AM
> >To: Robert Scheer
> >Subject: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >
> >
> >Bob,
> >what's this all about? What was Narda think about
> >this exclusionary, anti-democratic decision by
> >the Chronicle? Who decided to do this anyway, and
> >why? Larry
> >
> >
> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >Larry Gross
> >Professor and Director
> >School of Communication
> >Annenberg School
> >University of Southern California
> >Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
> >[213] 740-3770
> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >
> >
> >> To: info at voteforrest.org
> >> Subject: Weds. 1 pm: Debate Protest
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:01:02 -0700
> >> From: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State 
> ><info at voteforrest.org>
> >> Reply-to: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State 
> ><info at voteforrest.org>
> >>
> >>
> >> PLEASE FORWARD
> >>
> >> Protest Forrest's exclusion from SF Debates
> >>
> >>
> >> Forrest has called a press conference for
> >tomorrow 
> >(Weds.) at 1 pm to
> >> protect his exclusion from the San Francisco
> >Chronicle's 
> >debate.
> >>
> >> We need your support to let the media know that
> >it is no 
> >longer
> >> accepted to discriminate against third party
> >candidates.
> >>
> >> If you live in the Bay Area please come down to
> >KPIX-TV, 
> >855 Battery
> >> St. San Francisco, at 1 p.m. and help us make
> >some noise. 
> >We will have
> >
> >> signs, but feel free to bring your own.
> >>
> >> See press release below for details.
> >>
> >> URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
> >> Tuesday October 17, 2006
> >> Contact: Cres Vellucci, press secretary,
> >916.996-9170
> >> civillib at cwnet.com
> >>
> >> ATTN: Daybook/Assignment Desk
> >>
> >> Chronicle called undemocratic by candidate
> >> excluded from Secretary of State debate;
> >Pickets
> >> expected at campaign forum Wednesday
> >>
> >>
> >> SAN FRANCISCO - Green Party Secretary of State
> >candidate 
> >Dr. Forrest
> >> Hill charged today that the San Francisco
> >Chronicle may 
> >have excluded
> >> him from a televised debate on Wednesday either
> >because 
> >the paper
> >> "does not believe in democracy (or) because I
> >am the only 
> >openly gay
> >> candidate running for statewide office."
> >>
> >> Hill has called a news conference - and a
> >picket of the 
> >debate -
> >> WEDNESDAY,at KPIX-TV, 855 Battery St., at 1
> >p.m., shortly 
> >before the
> >> debate is due to begin.
> >>
> >> The debate will feature incumbent Republican
> >Bruce 
> >McPherson and
> >> Democrat Debra Bowen, but the Chronicle
> >excluded Hill, 
> >who has a
> >> doctorate from the Massachusetts Institute of
> >Technology 
> >and is a
> >> former campaign advisor to Ralph Nader.
> >>
> >> In a letter to the Chronicle, Hill said he
> >found it 
> >"simply
> >> irresponsible for a powerful news outlet like
> >the 
> >Chronicle to limit
> >> voter choices by promoting only two points of
> >view...in a 
> >city where
> >> Greens often out poll Republicans.
> >>
> >> "The Chronicle has an opportunity to take the
> >high road 
> >by opening up
> >> the debate to candidates running outside the
> >two 
> >mainstream parties.
> >> (The Chronicle) can play an important role in
> >rebuilding 
> >confidence in
> >our Democratic system by allowing me to take part
> >in 
> >Wednesday's
> >Secretary of State debate," said Hill.
> >> -30-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> >http://mail.yahoo.com 
> >
> >
> >
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From wrolley at charter.net  Thu Oct 19 06:53:10 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:53:10 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Richard Pombo needs to retire
Message-ID: <45378346.6050706@charter.net>

I have reported some about what we are doing to remove Pombo from 
office. I have not asked for help as I did not think that I should 
divert Green Party energies to this effort. However, let me assure you 
that, as election day get closer, the Pombo campaign is diving deeper 
into the muck. 

The latest is to gather support from the Gun Owners of America.  This is 
not the NRA.  In fact, it is an organization that is so far to the right 
of the NRA that the leader, Larry Pratt, was kicked out of Pat 
Buchannon's campaign staff for going around the country and soliciting 
support from white suprematist and militia movement organizations.  
Pratt is originally from South Aftica and that should tell you something.

If there is one thing that Greens in South County must do, it is to vote 
for Jerry McNerney in this eleciton.

Wes

-- 
Wes Rolley		 
17211 Quail Court	
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408)778-3024

"Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 19 07:07:59 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:07:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Re: [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors
	explain why they bar Greens from debates
Message-ID: <20061019140759.84095.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Julia Willebrand <julia.willebrand at verizon.net> wrote:

> From: Julia Willebrand <julia.willebrand at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors explain why they
> bar	Greens
>  from debates
> To: <usgp-media at lists.gp-us.org>
> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:56:58 -0400
> 
> Re: "Second, it mentions the US Senate race, but says that "John"
> interviewed the Green candidate "because she stood a a chance
> (mistake: it is
> a "he," Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of beating Pelosi"
> (mistake: the
> incumbent is Feinstein)."
> 
> The mistake is that the comment more likely refers to Green
> congressional
> candidate Krissy Keefer who is running against Nancy Pelosi. Krissy
> is a
> very public performer/celebrity in SF and I think she is the only
> candidate
> running against Pelosi.
> Julia
>  
> On 10/19/06 3:24 AM, "civillib at cwnet.com" <civillib at cwnet.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for this...I guess the Chronicle felt a little heat.
> > 
> > Just a side note, but I'm not sure who wrote - but it appears to be
> someone
> > from the Chron and might explain how the know very little about
> Greens
> > surprisingly - the message below that starts with ""Hello Larry..."
> but it
> > is very much in error.
> > 
> > First, the email refers to a "Green (Matt) Gonzalez who "made the
> runoff."
> > Played down just a bit. Matt entered the race very late, was
> outspent 10-1,
> > the GOP and Dems sent big guns (from Clinton to Feinstein) in to
> back
> > Newsom, and yet Newsom won by just a couple of percentage points. A
> little
> > better than just making the runoff.
> > 
> > Second, it mentions the US Senate race, but says that "John"
> interviewed
> > the Gree candidate "because she stood a a chance (mistake: it is a
> "he,"
> > Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of beating Pelosi" (mistake: the
> > incumbent is Feinstein).
> > 
> > Yikes, makes me wonder if the Chronicle has any idea of what's up.
> As a
> > former mainstream reporter for big dailies, let me say there was a
> reason
> > reporters tried to stay far away from editorial board types.
> > 
> > Cres 
> > 
> > 
> > At 10:19 PM 10/18/2006 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote:
> >> (Courtesy of Larry Gross; forwarded to me by
> >> Scott Tucker.  Note that SF Chronicle editor John
> >> Diaz, in providing these explanations, writes
> >> "Feel free to forward to Larry or Bob or anyone
> >> else who inquires." -- Scott)
> >> 
> >> SF Chronicle and candidates:
> >> 
> >> Hello Larry (and Bob),
> >> 
> >> Here is the explanation from John Diaz, our
> >> editorial page editor, who made the decision to
> >> exclude all four third party candidates from the
> >> debate, for the reasons expressed below. Let me
> >> add that in local races, the editorial board
> >> always includes Green candidates along with Dems
> >> and Repubicans because in the Bay Area, they make
> >> a strong showing and actually have a chance of
> >> winning (witness the last mayor's race where a
> >> Dem -- Newsom -- and a Green - Gonzalez, made the
> >> runoff. In the race for US Senate, John
> >> interviewed the Green candidate because she stood
> >> a chance, not of beating Pelosi, but of getting
> >> as many votes statewide as the Republican.
> > 
> >> Here are John's thoughts:
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Diaz, John
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:20 AM
> >> To: Zacchino, Narda
> >> Subject: RE: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hello Narda: Here is my thinking. Feel free to
> >> forward to Larry or Bob or anyone else who
> >> inquires. It really is the perpetual question we
> >> face in the media: Whether to provide "equal"
> >> coverage to minor party candidates and thus
> >> dilute the resources & attention we apply to the
> >> major party candidates. Neither Forrest Hill nor
> >> any of the minor-party candidates for secretary
> >> of state has shown any sign of becoming a factor
> >> in the race. I have been meeting, and will
> >> continue to meet, with Green Party candidates for
> >> various offices, but on a live Webcast, our time
> >> is inherently limited.
> >> 
> >> FYI, here's the statement I'm putting out for any
> >> media inquiries ...
> >> 
> >> There are six certified candidates for secretary
> >> of state. Two of them - Republican incumbent
> >> Bruce McPherson and Democrat Debra Bowen - have a
> >> plausible chance of winning. All indications are
> >> that this is an extremely close race and the two
> >> major-party candidates have two distinctly
> >> different visions about the role of secretary of
> >> state. This is their first - and only scheduled -
> >> debate of the campaign. So the question comes
> >> down to whether Californians would be better
> >> served by a more focused and extensive comparison
> >> of the two major-party candidates - one of whom
> >> will be secretary of state for the next four
> >> years - or a forum that also included the Green,
> >> Libertarian, American Independent and Peace and
> >> Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is that
> >> Californians need this chance to directly compare
> >> Bowen and McPherson.
> >> 
> >> -John
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Zacchino, Narda
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:12 AM
> >> To: Diaz, John
> >> Subject: FW: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> This is the chair of the communications
> >> department at usc
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Larry Gross [mailto:lpgross at usc.edu]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:00 AM
> >> To: Robert Scheer
> >> Subject: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Bob,
> >> what's this all about? What was Narda think about
> >> this exclusionary, anti-democratic decision by
> >> the Chronicle? Who decided to do this anyway, and
> >> why? Larry
> >> 
> >> 
> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >> Larry Gross
> >> Professor and Director
> >> School of Communication
> >> Annenberg School
> >> University of Southern California
> >> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
> >> [213] 740-3770
> >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> To: info at voteforrest.org
> >>> Subject: Weds. 1 pm: Debate Protest
> >>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:01:02 -0700
> >>> From: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State
> >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> >>> Reply-to: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State
> >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> PLEASE FORWARD
> >>> 
> >>> Protest Forrest's exclusion from SF Debates
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Forrest has called a press conference for
> >> tomorrow 
> >> (Weds.) at 1 pm to
> >>> protect his exclusion from the San Francisco
> >> Chronicle's 
> >> debate.
> >>> 
> >>> We need your support to let the media know that
> >> it is no 
> >> longer
> >>> accepted to discriminate against third party
> >> candidates.
> >>> 
> >>> If you live in the Bay Area please come down to
> >> KPIX-TV, 
> >> 855 Battery
> >>> St. San Francisco, at 1 p.m. and help us make
> >> some noise. 
> >> We will have
> >> 
> >>> signs, but feel free to bring your own.
> >>> 
> >>> See press release below for details.
> >>> 
> >>> URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
> >>> Tuesday October 17, 2006
> >>> Contact: Cres Vellucci, press secretary,
> >> 916.996-9170
> >>> civillib at cwnet.com
> >>> 
> >>> ATTN: Daybook/Assignment Desk
> >>> 
> >>> Chronicle called undemocratic by candidate
> >>> excluded from Secretary of State debate;
> >> Pickets
> >>> expected at campaign forum Wednesday
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> SAN FRANCISCO - Green Party Secretary of State
> >> candidate 
> >> Dr. Forrest
> >>> Hill charged today that the San Francisco
> >> Chronicle may 
> >> have excluded
> >>> him from a televised debate on Wednesday either
> >> because 
> >> the paper
> >>> "does not believe in democracy (or) because I
> >> am the only 
> >> openly gay
> >>> candidate running for statewide office."
> >>> 
> >>> Hill has called a news conference - and a
> >> picket of the 
> >> debate -
> >>> WEDNESDAY,at KPIX-TV, 855 Battery St., at 1
> >> p.m., shortly 
> >> before the
> >>> debate is due to begin.
> >>> 
> >>> The debate will feature incumbent Republican
> >> Bruce 
> >> McPherson and
> >>> Democrat Debra Bowen, but the Chronicle
> >> excluded Hill, 
> >> who has a
> >>> doctorate from the Massachusetts Institute of
> >> Technology 
> >> and is a
> >>> former campaign advisor to Ralph Nader.
> >>> 
> >>> In a letter to the Chronicle, Hill said he
> >> found it 
> >> "simply
> >>> irresponsible for a powerful news outlet like
> >> the 
> >> Chronicle to limit
> >>> voter choices by promoting only two points of
> >> view...in a 
> >> city where
> >>> Greens often out poll Republicans.
> >>> 
> >>> "The Chronicle has an opportunity to take the
> >> high road 
> >> by opening up
> >>> the debate to candidates running outside the
> >> two 
> >> mainstream parties.
> >>> (The Chronicle) can play an important role in
> >> rebuilding 
> >> confidence in
> >> our Democratic system by allowing me to take part
> >> in 
> >> Wednesday's
> >> Secretary of State debate," said Hill.
> >>> -30-
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> __________________________________________________
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> >> 
> >> 
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> > http://lists.gp-us.org/mailman/listinfo/usgp-media
> 
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 19 11:11:25 2006
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:11:25 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Free Tables and School Desks
Message-ID: <BAY121-F391C6BADFB514EBF234BA69E0C0@phx.gbl>

Hi,

A friend has some school-surplus tables and desks available.

There are about three office-type tables, and about two
science lab tables 3' X 6-1/2' with a hole in the middle for
power cords and such like.  These are not folding tables,
but the legs remove easily for transport.

There are also about 40 school desks, adjustable in height,
without chairs.

If you know anyone who might be interested in these,
please call Rick at 650.906.8736.

Brian

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 19 11:17:56 2006
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:17:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Campaign -- Lawn Sign in Mt. View
	CalTrainStation to
Message-ID: <BAY121-F2907479A69EAD21AAF3A979E0C0@phx.gbl>

Hi,

My concept for a rush-hour ad campaign is to make a 4' X 14' banner
and wheel it across the intersection at stop lights.  I'm all caught up in
promoting the "9/11 Press for Truth" movie 10/27 at 7 p.m. at Gunn
High right now.  If I build this thing I'll let you know how it goes.  It's
designed to break down and roll up into a 7' package so it can fit in
my car.

The reason to raise it so high is so the cars in the back of the pack
can see it.


Also, if you know anyone who wants 40 free school desks and/or
free tables, I know where to get them.

Brian








>From: Bob Alavi <baalavi at yahoo.com>
>To: Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com>
>Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Campaign -- Lawn Sign in Mt. View 
>CalTrainStation today 10/18
>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 10:54:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I really think we may get good mileage with "Candidate Lawn Signs" on our 
>bikes -- parked legitimately on Bike Racks in prominently visible places.
>
>   Today (Wed 10/18) Tian's Sign is in Mountain View Caltrain Station (of 
>course on my spare bike).  See 
>http://tianharter.org/Endorsements4Nov7th.html for a photo of the bike in 
>front of El Camino Hospital, at the bottom of the page.
>
>   We have THREE WEEKENDS before Nov. 7.  Anybody care to join in "Campaign 
>Bike Ride"?  Tian had a contraption to attach a Lawn Sign to his 
>bike-carrier-rack and ride it around.  I love to see Greens do that across 
>the state & country.  Any ideas how we may promote and coordinate that with 
>each other as well as other [Green] Groups?
>
>   We may not be able to afford TV ads, but with some effort, creativity, 
>and talent, we may be able to impress some voters with visual effects!
>
>   Bob
>
>
>
>
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu Oct 19 11:21:33 2006
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:21:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help a Green get elected
Message-ID: <4537C22D.8070307@freeshell.org>

Dear Green Friends,

Green Party activist Tian Harter has a chance to be one of three 
candidates among eight to be elected to the Mountain View' City 
Council.  However, he needs more volunteers to reach more voters and to 
help get his message across.

Tian has been meeting hundreds of people, walking precincts almost every 
day for the last month.  That is how City Council Member Greg Perry got 
elected several years ago.

A number of volunteers have also walked precincts, placing Tian's flyer 
in the doorways.  Still there will be a number of precincts he  will not 
get to.  So it is important that the hundreds, or thousands, of voters 
in those areas of the city receive his hand bill.  More volunteers are 
needed to finish that job.

Also, on Tuesday and Thursday of next week (October 24 and 26)  a  
campaign card Mailing Prep Bee will held at Lois' and my place, in Unit 
#45 of Building #1 of the Willow Park Condo complex, at the intersection 
of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd. in Mountain View. (The best 
entrance is from Moffett, just north of Middlefield.)

The Mailing Bee will begin at 3:00 PM and continue until 9 O'Clock on 
each of those two days.  Spaghetti and Meat Sauce and Meatless Sauce 
will be served.  Pot Luck salads and/or veggies will be welcomed. 
(Thousands of cards will need stamps and mailing addresses attached.)

If we are so lucky as to complete the mailing preparation on Tuesday, we 
will notify you via this "SosfbayDiscuss."

Wouldn't it be great to get a real Green elected to the MV City Council?!

Please lend a hand!

Fred Duperrault, at 650-691-1215 or fredd at freeshell.org

(Tian's:  650-964-6481 or TNHarter at greens.org)




From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 19 11:54:36 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:54:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Free Tables and School Desks
In-Reply-To: <BAY121-F391C6BADFB514EBF234BA69E0C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20061019185436.9736.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com>

If nothing else I know that R.A.F.T. in Sunnyvale is a nonprofit that
specializes in working with recycling school supplies.  They may be of
help.  

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> A friend has some school-surplus tables and desks available.
> 
> There are about three office-type tables, and about two
> science lab tables 3' X 6-1/2' with a hole in the middle for
> power cords and such like.  These are not folding tables,
> but the legs remove easily for transport.
> 
> There are also about 40 school desks, adjustable in height,
> without chairs.
> 
> If you know anyone who might be interested in these,
> please call Rick at 650.906.8736.
> 
> Brian
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 19 13:45:20 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:45:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SF Chronicle editors explain why they bar
	Greens......
In-Reply-To: <20061019195336.18738.qmail@web51113.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20061019204520.19174.qmail@web52212.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Scott,

I've been forwarding this conversation to our state party lists, so
hopefully we'll get some action going on this.  My suggestion would be
that we have a subgroup in the future to formulate rapid reaction
releases on strategic things like this.  Yes we are decentralized and
this could be a powerful tool as you suggest, but also if we can focus
a laser beam here and there and stir up some controversy it will
benefit all our parties across the nation.  This is essentially what
TPM Muckracker, DU and DailyKos have done against us and what we need
to be able to return the favor with.  Maybe in this case the CA media
committee can come up with something and pass it back here where we
canadd our national weight to the issue???

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Drew
> 
> The problem here is that we have only a few weeks
> until Election Day, and we put out on average two
> national GP releases a week, as well as some
> forwarded releases from the candidates
> themselves.  We have a pile of topics to cover in
> releases, and we can't abandon them for a
> sustained debate with the SF Chronicle over its
> policies.
> 
> Furthermore, the SF Chronicle can easily ignore a
> national release by the GP.  But it can't ignore
> piles of letters to the editor, letters &
> articles published in other media, and complaints
> from lots of Greens in the SF area who object to
> their exclusionary policies.
> 
> In other words, we should try to reverse a
> tendency among many Greens to believe that
> national GP press releases are the sole
> expression of our positions.  We need to motivate
> Greens to step and make themselves spokespersons
> for the party, and to speak out in their own
> words.  That's what being a democratic,
> decentralized party means.
> 
> In the Media Committee, we'll probably cover
> debates & exclusion of Greens again in the next
> week or two, but Greens elsewhere need to speak
> out right away.  (Some are already doing so.)
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Scott, 
> > 
> >  I'd have to say while I totally appreciate the
> > wisdom of your years in
> > this work I disagree that the GPUS Media
> > Committee is the wrong place
> > for spotlighting this.  I think its exactly the
> > right venue because we
> > can use this instance as emblematic of the
> > entire problem and make an
> > example of them.  I defer to you on this, but
> > I'd prefer that we go
> > after them.  Of course we can try to make some
> > impact with our state
> > party, but I'd rather see us make national
> > headlines by scorning them
> > for their shameful behavior.  If it requires
> > action by another
> > committee to approve this tactic then I'd say
> > lets give it a go and ask
> > for the green light.
> > IMO it is exactly this kind of national action
> > we need to do in order
> > to be taken seriously as the GPUS and as long
> > as we don't flex our
> > growing muscles we continue to be kicked around
> > with impunity.
> > 
> > A Million Votes for Peace!
> > 
> > Drew
> > 
> > --- Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Drew
> > > 
> > > Greens need to respond quickly to the SF
> > > Chronicle and challenge their policy on
> > excluding
> > > valid candidates for public office.
> > > 
> > > We especially need to emphasize that (1) such
> > > exclusion violates the right of voters to
> > know
> > > about the names they'll see on the ballot;
> > and
> > > (2) when debate sponsors rely on public
> > opinion
> > > polls and their own biases about who should
> > > participate in debates, then public opinion
> > polls
> > > and debate sponsors' biases replace
> > democratic
> > > elections as the determinants of who gets
> > elected
> > > to office.
> > > 
> > > However, national Green Party press releases
> > are
> > > the wrong venue for a public exchange with
> > the
> > > Chronicle about their policies.  Greens need
> > to
> > > write letters to the editor of the Chronicle
> > and
> > > other papers, and also submit op-ed columns
> > where
> > > our arguments can be made in greater detail
> > than
> > > in short letters.  SF area Greens should
> > > especially respond.
> > > 
> > > Cres: For some interesting information on the
> > > history of propaganda, especially corporate &
> > > political propaganda in which the propagators
> > > limit the terms of debate and engineer public
> > > consent, read this Wikipedia on Edward
> > Bernays,
> > > the 'father of public relations':
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
> > > 
> > > Scott
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I think Rebecca's on to something here.  We
> > > > need to continue to press
> > > > this point nationally, and why not use the
> > > > Chron to do it.  How about
> > > > let's do a release where we really skewer
> > the
> > > > Chron and make a stink
> > > > about how they are operating as the
> > > > 'Gatekeepers' as to what is 'safe'
> > > > for Americans to choose from?  If we played
> > our
> > > > cards right we could
> > > > stir up some controversy and maybe even get
> > > > some press coverage from
> > > > rival media!
> > > > 
> > > > After all here in California the
> > legislature
> > > > and Schwartzenegger just
> > > > worked out an initiative on global warming
> > --
> > > > in other words the
> > > > Grope-inator is playing to the green crowd
> > and
> > > > trying to remake himself
> > > > in the Green image!  What better time to
> > call
> > > > to task the Chron for
> > > > excluding the Green Party candidates!!!
> > > > 
> > > > A Million Votes for Peace!
> > > > 
> > > > Drew
> > > > 
> > > > --- Rebecca Rotzler <rrrotzler at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Wow!  So a couple of editorial staffers
> > are
> > > > deciding what is best for
> > > > > all
> > > > > Californians, do we not smell corporate
> > media
> > > > censorship?   I think
> > > > > the
> > > > > below would be wonderful to quote in a
> > > > release:
> > > > > So the question comes
> > > > > down to whether Californians would be
> > better
> > > > > served by a more focused and extensive
> > > > comparison
> > > > > of the two major-party candidates - one
> > of
> > > > whom
> > > > > will be secretary of state for the next
> > four
> > > > > years - or a forum that also included the
> > > > Green,
> > > > > Libertarian, American Independent and
> > Peace
> > > > and
> > > > > Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is
> > > > that
> > > > > Californians need this chance to directly
> > > > compare
> > > > > Bowen and McPherson.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, let us not waste the precious time
> > of
> > > > those Californians, the
> > > > > judgement
> > > > > is that they should not hear from any but
> > two
> > > > voices, and they must
> > > > > be
> > > > > spared from muddling their brains with
> > > > anything but those two, we
> > > > > don't want
> > > > > to confuse them in the absolute need to
> > > > compare only two, and nothing
> > > > > but
> > > > > two.  Two, got it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rebecca
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 10/19/06, Julia Willebrand
> > > > <julia.willebrand at verizon.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Re: "Second, it mentions the US Senate
> > > > race, but says that "John"
> > > > > > interviewed the Gree candidate "because
> > she
> > > > stood a a chance
> > > > > (mistake: it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > a "he," Todd Chretien)...And, third,
> > "not
> > > > of beating Pelosi"
> > > > > (mistake: the
> > > > > > incumbent is Feinstein)."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The mistake is that the comment more
> > likely
> > > > refers to Green
> > > > > congressional
> > > > > > candidate Krissy Keefer who is running
> > > > against Nancy Pelosi. Krissy
> > > > > is a
> > > > > > very public performer/celebrity in SF
> > and I
> > > > think she is the only
> > > > > > candidate
> > > > > > running against Pelosi.
> > > > > > Julia
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/19/06 3:24 AM,
> > "civillib at cwnet.com"
> > > > <civillib at cwnet.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for this...I guess the
> > Chronicle
> > > > felt a little heat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just a side note, but I'm not sure
> > who
> > > > wrote - but it appears to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > from the Chron and might explain how
> > the
> > > > know very little about
> > > > > Greens
> > > > > > > surprisingly - the message below that
> > > > starts with ""Hello
> > > > > Larry..." but
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > is very much in error.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > First, the email refers to a "Green
> > > > (Matt) Gonzalez who "made the
> > > > > > runoff."
> > > > > > > Played down just a bit. Matt entered
> > the
> > > > race very late, was
> > > > > outspent
> > > > > > 10-1,
> > > > > > > the GOP and Dems sent big guns (from
> > > > Clinton to Feinstein) in to
> > > > > back
> > > > > > > Newsom, and yet Newsom won by just a
> > > > couple of percentage points.
> > > > > A
> > > > > > little
> > > > > > > better than just making the runoff.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Second, it mentions the US Senate
> > race,
> > > > but says that "John"
> > > > > interviewed
> > > > > > > the Gree candidate "because she stood
> > a a
> > > > chance (mistake: it is
> > > > > a "he,"
> > > > > > > Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of
> > > > beating Pelosi" (mistake:
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > incumbent is Feinstein).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yikes, makes me wonder if the
> > Chronicle
> > > > has any idea of what's
> > > > > up. As a
> > > > > > > former mainstream reporter for big
> > > > dailies, let me say there was
> > > > > a
> > > > > > reason
> > > > > > > reporters tried to stay far away from
> > > > editorial board types.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cres
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 10:19 PM 10/18/2006 -0700, Scott
> > > > McLarty wrote:
> > > > > > >> (Courtesy of Larry Gross; forwarded
> > to
> > > > me by
> > > > > > >> Scott Tucker.  Note that SF
> > Chronicle
> > > > editor John
> > > > > > >> Diaz, in providing these
> > explanations,
> > > > writes
> > > > > > >> "Feel free to forward to Larry or
> > Bob or
> > > > anyone
> > > > > > >> else who inquires." -- Scott)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> SF Chronicle and candidates:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hello Larry (and Bob),
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Here is the explanation from John
> > Diaz,
> > > > our
> > > > > > >> editorial page editor, who made the
> > > > decision to
> > > > > > >> exclude all four third party
> > candidates
> > > > from the
> > > > > > >> debate, for the reasons expressed
> > below.
> > > > Let me
> > > > > > >> add that in local races, the
> > editorial
> > > > board
> > > > > > >> always includes Green candidates
> > along
> > > > with Dems
> > > > > > >> and Repubicans because in the Bay
> > Area,
> > > > they make
> > > > > > >> a strong showing and actually have a
> > > > chance of
> > > > > > >> winning (witness the last mayor's
> > race
> > > > where a
> > > > > > >> Dem -- Newsom -- and a Green -
> > Gonzalez,
> > > > made the
> > > > > > >> runoff. In the race for US Senate,
> > John
> > > > > > >> interviewed the Green candidate
> > because
> > > > she stood
> > > > > > >> a chance, not of beating Pelosi, but
> > of
> > > > getting
> > > > > > >> as many votes statewide as the
> > > > Republican.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Here are John's thoughts:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: Diaz, John
> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
> > 11:20
> > > > AM
> > > > > > >> To: Zacchino, Narda
> > > > > > >> Subject: RE: What's the Chronicle up
> > to?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hello Narda: Here is my thinking.
> > Feel
> > > > free to
> > > > > > >> forward to Larry or Bob or anyone
> > else
> > > > who
> > > > > > >> inquires. It really is the perpetual
> > > > question we
> > > > > > >> face in the media: Whether to
> > provide
> > > > "equal"
> > > > > > >> coverage to minor party candidates
> > and
> > > > thus
> > > > > > >> dilute the resources & attention we
> > > > apply to the
> > > > > > >> major party candidates. Neither
> > Forrest
> > > > Hill nor
> > > > > > >> any of the minor-party candidates
> > for
> > > > secretary
> > > > > > >> of state has shown any sign of
> > becoming
> > > > a factor
> > > > > > >> in the race. I have been meeting,
> > and
> > > > will
> > > > > > >> continue to meet, with Green Party
> > > > candidates for
> > > > > > >> various offices, but on a live
> > Webcast,
> > > > our time
> > > > > > >> is inherently limited.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> FYI, here's the statement I'm
> > putting
> > > > out for any
> > > > > > >> media inquiries ...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> There are six certified candidates
> > for
> > > > secretary
> > > > > > >> of state. Two of them - Republican
> > > > incumbent
> > > > > > >> Bruce McPherson and Democrat Debra
> > Bowen
> > > > - have a
> > > > > > >> plausible chance of winning. All
> > > > indications are
> > > > > > >> that this is an extremely close race
> > and
> > > > the two
> > > > > > >> major-party candidates have two
> > > > distinctly
> > > > > > >> different visions about the role of
> > > > secretary of
> > > > > > >> state. This is their first - and
> > only
> > > > scheduled -
> > > > > > >> debate of the campaign. So the
> > question
> > > > comes
> > > > > > >> down to whether Californians would
> > be
> > > > better
> > > > > > >> served by a more focused and
> > extensive
> > > > comparison
> > > > > > >> of the two major-party candidates -
> > one
> > > > of whom
> > > > > > >> will be secretary of state for the
> > next
> > > > four
> > > > > > >> years - or a forum that also
> > included
> > > > the Green,
> > > > > > >> Libertarian, American Independent
> > and
> > > > Peace and
> > > > > > >> Freedom party candidates. Our
> > judgment
> > > > is that
> > > > > > >> Californians need this chance to
> > > > directly compare
> > > > > > >> Bowen and McPherson.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -John
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: Zacchino, Narda
> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
> > 11:12
> > > > AM
> > > > > > >> To: Diaz, John
> > > > > > >> Subject: FW: What's the Chronicle up
> > to?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> This is the chair of the
> > communications
> > > > > > >> department at usc
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> From: Larry Gross
> > > > [mailto:lpgross at usc.edu]
> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
> > 9:00
> > > > AM
> > > > > > >> To: Robert Scheer
> > > > > > >> Subject: What's the Chronicle up to?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Bob,
> > > > > > >> what's this all about? What was
> > Narda
> > > > think about
> > > > > > >> this exclusionary, anti-democratic
> > > > decision by
> > > > > > >> the Chronicle? Who decided to do
> > this
> > > > anyway, and
> > > > > > >> why? Larry
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > > >> Larry Gross
> > > > > > >> Professor and Director
> > > > > > >> School of Communication
> > > > > > >> Annenberg School
> > > > > > >> University of Southern California
> > > > > > >> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
> > > > > > >> [213] 740-3770
> > > > > > >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> To: info at voteforrest.org
> > > > > > >>> Subject: Weds. 1 pm: Debate Protest
> > > > > > >>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:01:02
> > -0700
> > > > > > >>> From: Forrest Hill for Secretary of
> > > > State
> > > > > > >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> > > > > > >>> Reply-to: Forrest Hill for
> > Secretary of
> > > > State
> > > > > > >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> PLEASE FORWARD
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Protest Forrest's exclusion from SF
> > > > Debates
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Forrest has called a press
> > conference
> > > > for
> > > > > > >> tomorrow
> > > > > > >> (Weds.) at 1 pm to
> > > > > > >>> protect his exclusion from the San
> > > > Francisco
> > > > > > >> Chronicle's
> > > > > > >> debate.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> We need your support to let the
> > media
> > > > know that
> > > > > > >> it is no
> > > > > > >> longer
> > > > > > >>> accepted to discriminate against
> > third
> > > > party
> > > > > > >> candidates.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> If you live in the Bay Area please
> > come
> > > > down to
> > > > > > >> KPIX-TV,
> > > > > > >> 855 Battery
> > > > > > >>> St. San Francisco, at 1 p.m. and
> > help
> > > > us make
> > > > > > >> some noise.
> > > > > > >> We will have
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> signs, but feel free to bring your
> > own.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> See press release below for
> > details.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
> > > > > > >>> Tuesday October 17, 2006
> > > > > > >>> Contact: Cres Vellucci, press
> > > > secretary,
> > > > > > >> 916.996-9170
> > > > > > >>> civillib at cwnet.com
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> ATTN: Daybook/Assignment Desk
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Chronicle called undemocratic by
> > > > candidate
> > > > > > >>> excluded from Secretary of State
> > > > debate;
> > > > > > >> Pickets
> > > > > > >>> expected at campaign forum
> > Wednesday
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> SAN FRANCISCO - Green Party
> > Secretary
> > > > of State
> > > > > > >> candidate
> > > > > > >> Dr. Forrest
> > > > > > >>> Hill charged today that the San
> > > > Francisco
> > > > > > >> Chronicle may
> > > > > > >> have excluded
> > > > > > >>> him from a televised debate on
> > > > Wednesday either
> > > > > > >> because
> > > > > > >> the paper
> > > > > > >>> "does not believe in democracy (or)
> > > > because I
> > > > > > >> am the only
> > > > > > >> openly gay
> > > > > > >>> candidate running for statewide
> > > > office."
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Hill has called a news conference -
> > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > >> picket of the
> > > > > > >> debate -
> > > > > > >>> WEDNESDAY,at KPIX-TV, 855 Battery
> > St.,
> > > > at 1
> > > > > > >> p.m., shortly
> > > > > > >> before the
> > > > > > >>> debate is due to begin.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The debate will feature incumbent
> > > > Republican
> > > > > > >> Bruce
> > > > > > >> McPherson and
> > > > > > >>> Democrat Debra Bowen, but the
> > Chronicle
> > > > > > >> excluded Hill,
> > > > > > >> who has a
> > > > > > >>> doctorate from the Massachusetts
> > > > Institute of
> > > > > > >> Technology
> > > > > > >> and is a
> > > > > > >>> former campaign advisor to Ralph
> > Nader.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> In a letter to the Chronicle, Hill
> > said
> > > > he
> > > > > > >> found it
> > > > > > >> "simply
> > > > > > >>> irresponsible for a powerful news
> > > > outlet like
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> Chronicle to limit
> > > > > > >>> voter choices by promoting only two
> > > > points of
> > > > > > >> view...in a
> > > > > > >> city where
> > > > > > >>> Greens often out poll Republicans.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> "The Chronicle has an opportunity
> > to
> > > > take the
> > > > > > >> high road
> > > > > > >> by opening up
> > > > > > >>> the debate to candidates running
> > > > outside the
> > > > > > >> two
> > > > > > >> mainstream parties.
> > > > > > >>> (The Chronicle) can play an
> > important
> > > > role in
> > > > > > >> rebuilding
> > > > > > >> confidence in
> > > > > > >> our Democratic system by allowing me
> > to
> > > > take part
> > > > > > >> in
> > > > > > >> Wednesday's
> > > > > > >> Secretary of State debate," said
> > Hill.
> > > > > > >>> -30-
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 20 09:11:32 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:11:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors explain
	why they bar Greens......
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20061019153336.0180abac@mail.cwnet.com>
Message-ID: <20061020161133.14464.qmail@web52210.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey Cres,

Yes, I'm very aware of all the hard work y'all are putting in on this
and I hope my full appreciation of it is clear and recieved by y'all. 
My idea is a little different than what has been done so far.  I was
proposing that we make a big national stink over this incident and
really make an example of the Chron's anti-multiparty democracy action
much like the Dems have tried (and mostly succeeded unfortunately) in
blowing up the Romanelli campaign and used their (mis)framing of that
situation to define the Greens.

If I get a chance (I'm very pressed for time) I'll see if I can stir
something up in the blogosphere this weekend.  At least that is
something I can do on my own to try to get things started and then
maybe some of y'all will see what I have in mind and can join in. :-)

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- civillib at cwnet.com wrote:

> Drew,
> 
> Not to worry, we've been doing the releases here throughout the
> campaign on
> Camejo, Hill and others being dissed. We put out an average of 2-3
> releases
> a week, sometimes more during election times. We're on top of it and
> I use
> a list with ALL CA radio, TV and print outlets. :))
> 
> Cres
> 
> At 01:45 PM 10/19/2006 -0700, JamBoi wrote:
> >Hey Scott,
> >
> >I've been forwarding this conversation to our state party lists, so
> >hopefully we'll get some action going on this.  My suggestion would
> be
> >that we have a subgroup in the future to formulate rapid reaction
> >releases on strategic things like this.  Yes we are decentralized
> and
> >this could be a powerful tool as you suggest, but also if we can
> focus
> >a laser beam here and there and stir up some controversy it will
> >benefit all our parties across the nation.  This is essentially what
> >TPM Muckracker, DU and DailyKos have done against us and what we
> need
> >to be able to return the favor with.  Maybe in this case the CA
> media
> >committee can come up with something and pass it back here where we
> >canadd our national weight to the issue???
> >
> >A Million Votes for Peace!
> >
> >Drew
> >
> >--- Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Drew
> >> 
> >> The problem here is that we have only a few weeks
> >> until Election Day, and we put out on average two
> >> national GP releases a week, as well as some
> >> forwarded releases from the candidates
> >> themselves.  We have a pile of topics to cover in
> >> releases, and we can't abandon them for a
> >> sustained debate with the SF Chronicle over its
> >> policies.
> >> 
> >> Furthermore, the SF Chronicle can easily ignore a
> >> national release by the GP.  But it can't ignore
> >> piles of letters to the editor, letters &
> >> articles published in other media, and complaints
> >> from lots of Greens in the SF area who object to
> >> their exclusionary policies.
> >> 
> >> In other words, we should try to reverse a
> >> tendency among many Greens to believe that
> >> national GP press releases are the sole
> >> expression of our positions.  We need to motivate
> >> Greens to step and make themselves spokespersons
> >> for the party, and to speak out in their own
> >> words.  That's what being a democratic,
> >> decentralized party means.
> >> 
> >> In the Media Committee, we'll probably cover
> >> debates & exclusion of Greens again in the next
> >> week or two, but Greens elsewhere need to speak
> >> out right away.  (Some are already doing so.)
> >> 
> >> Scott
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Hi Scott, 
> >> > 
> >> >  I'd have to say while I totally appreciate the
> >> > wisdom of your years in
> >> > this work I disagree that the GPUS Media
> >> > Committee is the wrong place
> >> > for spotlighting this.  I think its exactly the
> >> > right venue because we
> >> > can use this instance as emblematic of the
> >> > entire problem and make an
> >> > example of them.  I defer to you on this, but
> >> > I'd prefer that we go
> >> > after them.  Of course we can try to make some
> >> > impact with our state
> >> > party, but I'd rather see us make national
> >> > headlines by scorning them
> >> > for their shameful behavior.  If it requires
> >> > action by another
> >> > committee to approve this tactic then I'd say
> >> > lets give it a go and ask
> >> > for the green light.
> >> > IMO it is exactly this kind of national action
> >> > we need to do in order
> >> > to be taken seriously as the GPUS and as long
> >> > as we don't flex our
> >> > growing muscles we continue to be kicked around
> >> > with impunity.
> >> > 
> >> > A Million Votes for Peace!
> >> > 
> >> > Drew
> >> > 
> >> > --- Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > Hi Drew
> >> > > 
> >> > > Greens need to respond quickly to the SF
> >> > > Chronicle and challenge their policy on
> >> > excluding
> >> > > valid candidates for public office.
> >> > > 
> >> > > We especially need to emphasize that (1) such
> >> > > exclusion violates the right of voters to
> >> > know
> >> > > about the names they'll see on the ballot;
> >> > and
> >> > > (2) when debate sponsors rely on public
> >> > opinion
> >> > > polls and their own biases about who should
> >> > > participate in debates, then public opinion
> >> > polls
> >> > > and debate sponsors' biases replace
> >> > democratic
> >> > > elections as the determinants of who gets
> >> > elected
> >> > > to office.
> >> > > 
> >> > > However, national Green Party press releases
> >> > are
> >> > > the wrong venue for a public exchange with
> >> > the
> >> > > Chronicle about their policies.  Greens need
> >> > to
> >> > > write letters to the editor of the Chronicle
> >> > and
> >> > > other papers, and also submit op-ed columns
> >> > where
> >> > > our arguments can be made in greater detail
> >> > than
> >> > > in short letters.  SF area Greens should
> >> > > especially respond.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Cres: For some interesting information on the
> >> > > history of propaganda, especially corporate &
> >> > > political propaganda in which the propagators
> >> > > limit the terms of debate and engineer public
> >> > > consent, read this Wikipedia on Edward
> >> > Bernays,
> >> > > the 'father of public relations':
> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
> >> > > 
> >> > > Scott
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > > 
> >> > > > I think Rebecca's on to something here.  We
> >> > > > need to continue to press
> >> > > > this point nationally, and why not use the
> >> > > > Chron to do it.  How about
> >> > > > let's do a release where we really skewer
> >> > the
> >> > > > Chron and make a stink
> >> > > > about how they are operating as the
> >> > > > 'Gatekeepers' as to what is 'safe'
> >> > > > for Americans to choose from?  If we played
> >> > our
> >> > > > cards right we could
> >> > > > stir up some controversy and maybe even get
> >> > > > some press coverage from
> >> > > > rival media!
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > After all here in California the
> >> > legislature
> >> > > > and Schwartzenegger just
> >> > > > worked out an initiative on global warming
> >> > --
> >> > > > in other words the
> >> > > > Grope-inator is playing to the green crowd
> >> > and
> >> > > > trying to remake himself
> >> > > > in the Green image!  What better time to
> >> > call
> >> > > > to task the Chron for
> >> > > > excluding the Green Party candidates!!!
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > A Million Votes for Peace!
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Drew
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > --- Rebecca Rotzler <rrrotzler at gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > > Wow!  So a couple of editorial staffers
> >> > are
> >> > > > deciding what is best for
> >> > > > > all
> >> > > > > Californians, do we not smell corporate
> >> > media
> >> > > > censorship?   I think
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > below would be wonderful to quote in a
> >> > > > release:
> >> > > > > So the question comes
> >> > > > > down to whether Californians would be
> >> > better
> >> > > > > served by a more focused and extensive
> >> > > > comparison
> >> > > > > of the two major-party candidates - one
> >> > of
> >> > > > whom
> >> > > > > will be secretary of state for the next
> >> > four
> >> > > > > years - or a forum that also included the
> >> > > > Green,
> >> > > > > Libertarian, American Independent and
> >> > Peace
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > > Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > > Californians need this chance to directly
> >> > > > compare
> >> > > > > Bowen and McPherson.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Yes, let us not waste the precious time
> >> > of
> >> > > > those Californians, the
> >> > > > > judgement
> >> > > > > is that they should not hear from any but
> >> > two
> >> > > > voices, and they must
> >> > > > > be
> >> > > > > spared from muddling their brains with
> >> > > > anything but those two, we
> >> > > > > don't want
> >> > > > > to confuse them in the absolute need to
> >> > > > compare only two, and nothing
> >> > > > > but
> >> > > > > two.  Two, got it?
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Rebecca
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > On 10/19/06, Julia Willebrand
> >> > > > <julia.willebrand at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Re: "Second, it mentions the US Senate
> >> > > > race, but says that "John"
> >> > > > > > interviewed the Gree candidate "because
> >> > she
> >> > > > stood a a chance
> >> > > > > (mistake: it
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > a "he," Todd Chretien)...And, third,
> >> > "not
> >> > > > of beating Pelosi"
> >> > > > > (mistake: the
> >> > > > > > incumbent is Feinstein)."
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The mistake is that the comment more
> >> > likely
> >> > > > refers to Green
> >> > > > > congressional
> >> > > > > > candidate Krissy Keefer who is running
> >> > > > against Nancy Pelosi. Krissy
> >> > > > > is a
> >> > > > > > very public performer/celebrity in SF
> >> > and I
> >> > > > think she is the only
> >> > > > > > candidate
> >> > > > > > running against Pelosi.
> >> > > > > > Julia
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On 10/19/06 3:24 AM,
> >> > "civillib at cwnet.com"
> >> > > > <civillib at cwnet.com>
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Thanks for this...I guess the
> >> > Chronicle
> >> > > > felt a little heat.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Just a side note, but I'm not sure
> >> > who
> >> > > > wrote - but it appears to
> >> > > > > be
> >> > > > > > someone
> >> > > > > > > from the Chron and might explain how
> >> > the
> >> > > > know very little about
> >> > > > > Greens
> >> > > > > > > surprisingly - the message below that
> >> > > > starts with ""Hello
> >> > > > > Larry..." but
> >> > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > is very much in error.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > First, the email refers to a "Green
> >> > > > (Matt) Gonzalez who "made the
> >> > > > > > runoff."
> >> > > > > > > Played down just a bit. Matt entered
> >> > the
> >> > > > race very late, was
> >> > > > > outspent
> >> > > > > > 10-1,
> >> > > > > > > the GOP and Dems sent big guns (from
> >> > > > Clinton to Feinstein) in to
> >> > > > > back
> >> > > > > > > Newsom, and yet Newsom won by just a
> >> > > > couple of percentage points.
> >> > > > > A
> >> > > > > > little
> >> > > > > > > better than just making the runoff.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Second, it mentions the US Senate
> >> > race,
> >> > > > but says that "John"
> >> > > > > interviewed
> >> > > > > > > the Gree candidate "because she stood
> >> > a a
> >> > > > chance (mistake: it is
> >> > > > > a "he,"
> >> > > > > > > Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of
> >> > > > beating Pelosi" (mistake:
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > incumbent is Feinstein).
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Yikes, makes me wonder if the
> >> > Chronicle
> >> > > > has any idea of what's
> >> > > > > up. As a
> >> > > > > > > former mainstream reporter for big
> >> > > > dailies, let me say there was
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > > reason
> >> > > > > > > reporters tried to stay far away from
> >> > > > editorial board types.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Cres
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > At 10:19 PM 10/18/2006 -0700, Scott
> >> > > > McLarty wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> (Courtesy of Larry Gross; forwarded
> >> > to
> >> > > > me by
> >> > > > > > >> Scott Tucker.  Note that SF
> >> > Chronicle
> >> > > > editor John
> >> > > > > > >> Diaz, in providing these
> >> > explanations,
> >> > > > writes
> >> > > > > > >> "Feel free to forward to Larry or
> >> > Bob or
> >> > > > anyone
> >> > > > > > >> else who inquires." -- Scott)
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> SF Chronicle and candidates:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Hello Larry (and Bob),
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Here is the explanation from John
> >> > Diaz,
> >> > > > our
> >> > > > > > >> editorial page editor, who made the
> >> > > > decision to
> >> > > > > > >> exclude all four third party
> >> > candidates
> >> > > > from the
> >> > > > > > >> debate, for the reasons expressed
> >> > below.
> >> > > > Let me
> >> > > > > > >> add that in local races, the
> >> > editorial
> >> > > > board
> >> > > > > > >> always includes Green candidates
> >> > along
> >> > > > with Dems
> >> > > > > > >> and Repubicans because in the Bay
> >> > Area,
> >> > > > they make
> >> > > > > > >> a strong showing and actually have a
> >> > > > chance of
> >> > > > > > >> winning (witness the last mayor's
> >> > race
> >> > > > where a
> >> > > > > > >> Dem -- Newsom -- and a Green -
> >> > Gonzalez,
> >> > > > made the
> >> > > > > > >> runoff. In the race for US Senate,
> >> > John
> >> > > > > > >> interviewed the Green candidate
> >> > because
> >> > > > she stood
> >> > > > > > >> a chance, not of beating Pelosi, but
> >> > of
> >> > > > getting
> >> > > > > > >> as many votes statewide as the
> >> > > > Republican.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> Here are John's thoughts:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >> From: Diaz, John
> >> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
> >> > 11:20
> >> > > > AM
> >> > > > > > >> To: Zacchino, Narda
> >> > > > > > >> Subject: RE: What's the Chronicle up
> >> > to?
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Hello Narda: Here is my thinking.
> >> > Feel
> >> > > > free to
> >> > > > > > >> forward to Larry or Bob or anyone
> >> > else
> >> > > > who
> >> > > > > > >> inquires. It really is the perpetual
> >> > > > question we
> >> > > > > > >> face in the media: Whether to
> >> > provide
> >> > > > "equal"
> >> > > > > > >> coverage to minor party candidates
> >> > and
> >> > > > thus
> >> > > > > > >> dilute the resources & attention we
> >> > > > apply to the
> >> > > > > > >> major party candidates. Neither
> >> > Forrest
> >> > > > Hill nor
> >> > > > > > >> any of the minor-party candidates
> >> > for
> >> > > > secretary
> >> > > > > > >> of state has shown any sign of
> >> > becoming
> >> > > > a factor
> >> > > > > > >> in the race. I have been meeting,
> >> > and
> >> > > > will
> >> > > > > > >> continue to meet, with Green Party
> >> > > > candidates for
> >> > > > > > >> various offices, but on a live
> >> > Webcast,
> >> > > > our time
> >> > > > > > >> is inherently limited.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> FYI, here's the statement I'm
> >> > putting
> >> > > > out for any
> >> > > > > > >> media inquiries ...
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> There are six certified candidates
> >> > for
> >> > > > secretary
> >> > > > > > >> of state. Two of them - Republican
> >> > > > incumbent
> >> > > > > > >> Bruce McPherson and Democrat Debra
> >> > Bowen
> >> > > > - have a
> >> > > > > > >> plausible chance of winning. All
> >> > > > indications are
> >> > > > > > >> that this is an extremely close race
> >> > and
> >> > > > the two
> >> > > > > > >> major-party candidates have two
> >> > > > distinctly
> >> > > > > > >> different visions about the role of
> >> > > > secretary of
> >> > > > > > >> state. This is their first - and
> >> > only
> >> > > > scheduled -
> >> > > > > > >> debate of the campaign. So the
> >> > question
> >> > > > comes
> >> > > > > > >> down to whether Californians would
> >> > be
> >> > > > better
> >> > > > > > >> served by a more focused and
> >> > extensive
> >> > > > comparison
> >> > > > > > >> of the two major-party candidates -
> >> > one
> >> > > > of whom
> >> > > > > > >> will be secretary of state for the
> >> > next
> >> > > > four
> >> > > > > > >> years - or a forum that also
> >> > included
> >> > > > the Green,
> >> > > > > > >> Libertarian, American Independent
> >> > and
> >> > > > Peace and
> >> > > > > > >> Freedom party candidates. Our
> >> > judgment
> >> > > > is that
> >> > > > > > >> Californians need this chance to
> >> > > > directly compare
> >> > > > > > >> Bowen and McPherson.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> -John
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >> From: Zacchino, Narda
> >> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
> >> > 11:12
> >> > > > AM
> >> > > > > > >> To: Diaz, John
> >> > > > > > >> Subject: FW: What's the Chronicle up
> >> > to?
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> This is the chair of the
> >> > communications
> >> > > > > > >> department at usc
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >> From: Larry Gross
> >> > > > [mailto:lpgross at usc.edu]
> >> > > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006
> >> > 9:00
> >> > > > AM
> >> > > > > > >> To: Robert Scheer
> >> > > > > > >> Subject: What's the Chronicle up to?
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> Bob,
> >> > > > > > >> what's this all about? What was
> >> > Narda
> >> > > > think about
> >> > > > > > >> this exclusionary, anti-democratic
> >> > > > decision by
> >> > > > > > >> the Chronicle? Who decided to do
> >> > this
> >> > > > anyway, and
> >> > > > > > >> why? Larry
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >> > > > > > >> Larry Gross
> >> > > > > > >> Professor and Director
> >> > > > > > >> School of Communication
> >> > > > > > >> Annenberg School
> >> > > > > > >> University of Southern California
> >> > > > > > >> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
> >> > > > > > >> [213] 740-3770
> >> > > > > > >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>> To: info at voteforrest.org
> >> > > > > > >>> Subject: Weds. 1 pm: Debate Protest
> >> > > > > > >>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:01:02
> >> > -0700
> >> > > > > > >>> From: Forrest Hill for Secretary of
> >> > > > State
> >> > > > > > >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> >> > > > > > >>> Reply-to: Forrest Hill for
> >> > Secretary of
> >> > > > State
> >> > > > > > >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> PLEASE FORWARD
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> Protest Forrest's exclusion from SF
> >> > > > Debates
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> Forrest has called a press
> >> > conference
> >> > > > for
> >> > > > > > >> tomorrow
> >> > > > > > >> (Weds.) at 1 pm to
> >> > > > > > >>> protect his exclusion from the San
> >> > > > Francisco
> >> > > > > > >> Chronicle's
> >> > > > > > >> debate.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> We need your support to let the
> >> > media
> >> > > > know that
> >> > > > > > >> it is no
> >> > > > > > >> longer
> >> > > > > > >>> accepted to discriminate against
> >> > third
> >> > > > party
> >> > > > > > >> candidates.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> If you live in the Bay Area please
> >> > come
> >> > > > down to
> >> > > > > > >> KPIX-TV,
> >> > > > > > >> 855 Battery
> >> > > > > > >>> St. San Francisco, at 1 p.m. and
> >> > help
> >> > > > us make
> >> > > > > > >> some noise.
> >> > > > > > >> We will have
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>> signs, but feel free to bring your
> >> > own.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> See press release below for
> >> > details.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
> >> > > > > > >>> Tuesday October 17, 2006
> >> > > > > > >>> Contact: Cres Vellucci, press
> >> > > > secretary,
> >> > > > > > >> 916.996-9170
> >> > > > > > >>> civillib at cwnet.com
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> ATTN: Daybook/Assignment Desk
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> Chronicle called undemocratic by
> >> > > > candidate
> >> > > > > > >>> excluded from Secretary of State
> >> > > > debate;
> >> > > > > > >> Pickets
> >> > > > > > >>> expected at campaign forum
> >> > Wednesday
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> SAN FRANCISCO - Green Party
> >> > Secretary
> >> > > > of State
> >> > > > > > >> candidate
> >> > > > > > >> Dr. Forrest
> >> > > > > > >>> Hill charged today that the San
> >> > > > Francisco
> >> > > > > > >> Chronicle may
> >> > > > > > >> have excluded
> >> > > > > > >>> him from a televised debate on
> >> > > > Wednesday either
> >> > > > > > >> because
> >> > > > > > >> the paper
> >> > > > > > >>> "does not believe in democracy (or)
> >> > > > because I
> >> > > > > > >> am the only
> >> > > > > > >> openly gay
> >> > > > > > >>> candidate running for statewide
> >> > > > office."
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> Hill has called a news conference -
> >> > and
> >> > > > a
> >> > > > > > >> picket of the
> >> > > > > > >> debate -
> >> > > > > > >>> WEDNESDAY,at KPIX-TV, 855 Battery
> >> > St.,
> >> > > > at 1
> >> > > > > > >> p.m., shortly
> >> > > > > > >> before the
> >> > > > > > >>> debate is due to begin.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> The debate will feature incumbent
> >> > > > Republican
> >> > > > > > >> Bruce
> >> > > > > > >> McPherson and
> >> > > > > > >>> Democrat Debra Bowen, but the
> >> > Chronicle
> >> > > > > > >> excluded Hill,
> >> > > > > > >> who has a
> >> > > > > > >>> doctorate from the Massachusetts
> >> > > > Institute of
> >> > > > > > >> Technology
> >> > > > > > >> and is a
> >> > > > > > >>> former campaign advisor to Ralph
> >> > Nader.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> In a letter to the Chronicle, Hill
> >> > said
> >> > > > he
> >> > > > > > >> found it
> >> > > > > > >> "simply
> >> > > > > > >>> irresponsible for a powerful news
> >> > > > outlet like
> >> > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > >> Chronicle to limit
> >> > > > > > >>> voter choices by promoting only two
> >> > > > points of
> >> > > > > > >> view...in a
> >> > > > > > >> city where
> >> > > > > > >>> Greens often out poll Republicans.
> >> > > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >>> "The Chronicle has an opportunity
> >> > to
> >> > > > take the
> >> > > > > > >> high road
> >> > > > > > >> by opening up
> >> > > > > > >>> the debate to candidates running
> >> > > > outside the
> >> > > > > > >> two
> >> > > > > > >> mainstream parties.
> >> > > > > > >>> (The Chronicle) can play an
> >> > important
> >> > > > role in
> >> > > > > > >> rebuilding
> >> > > > > > >> confidence in
> >> > > > > > >> our Democratic system by allowing me
> >> > to
> >> > > > take part
> >> > > > > > >> in
> >> > > > > > >> Wednesday's
> >> > > > > > >> Secretary of State debate," said
> >> > Hill.
> >> > > > > > >>> -30-
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 20 09:27:03 2006
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:27:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling this weekend
Message-ID: <4538F8D7.5000909@sbcglobal.net>

I would like to table this weekend.
I will have some time available on each of Saturday and Sunday.
Do you know of any events where it would be "good" to table?

If I can join you or you would like to join me, let me know.

Jim Doyle
(408) 269-3299


From fredd at freeshell.org  Fri Oct 20 11:49:33 2006
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:49:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  tabling this weekend
Message-ID: <45391A3D.8010804@freeshell.org>

Jim,

Let's do the Mtn View Farmers Market on Sunday.  Set up time at 8:30 AM ok?

Fred

I would like to table this weekend.
I will have some time available on each of Saturday and Sunday.
Do you know of any events where it would be "good" to table?

If I can join you or you would like to join me, let me know.

Jim Doyle
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat Oct 21 08:27:11 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:27:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors explain
	why they barGreens from debates
In-Reply-To: <45396973.B515F1B@midpac.net>
Message-ID: <20061021152711.87958.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com>

Thank you Andy, Cres, and Scott for sharing your experience!  I'm
really appreciating the quality of discussion that y'all are
contributing.  

I've also been a reporter and editor, and PR person so I judge that my
experience and view point will provide similar value.

To a large degree I believe we need to play our hand quite differently
than we would if we were representing a Dem or Repub.  I think we are
not succeeding in getting the coverage we need with our present
strategy.  We are churning out marvelous press releases, but are they
getting written into stories and published?  No, I'm not seeing it
happen currently.

I think we need to operate in a very 'guerilla marketing' sort of way
to get media coverage.  I think we need to stir up the muck, create
some positive (for us) controversy that really throws a cold light on
the fixed nature of this political game.   Our conventional approach is
not getting us where we want to go IMO.  

I suggest we would do well to define ourselves as the scrappy, bold,
irreverent party with a sense of humor.  Think of combining the early
and highly successful direct actions of Green Peace and the extremely
successful, highly influential current reign of the kings of political
humor, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.  I think we really need to
tweek the noses of some political sacred cows here.  I think we need to
be a little outrageous and a LOT creative to get coverage.  Playing it
safe is not working for us IMO.

So with that in mind if I get the chance in the next few days I'll
initiate "JamBoi's Anti-democratic Hall of Shame" (or some such title)
soon and try to stir up some blogospheric thunder and lightning v the
Chron on this incident.

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- Andy Parx <parx at midpac.net> wrote:

> Cres is right and we'd all be well advised to understand the
> phenomena
> completely to gain an insight as to how reporters and editors think.
> 
> When I taught J-151, the entry-level course for future journalists,
> the first
> lesson on  first day began with writing "What is News?" on the
> blackboard. And
> after writing a dozen or so responses from the students under that,
> the real
> answer was "News is what "we" say it is- we, being you, the now
> student, soon
> to be reporter. (Actually you're supposed to use this to get to the
> whole
> "objectivity" stuff but I usually ended with "there's no such thing
> as
> objectivity" ... which is one reason I no longer teach ;>) )
> 
> The :gatekeeper: mentality is not just some unconscious result that
> reporters
> have without thinking. The first time you actually make news by
> covering the
> news you quickly learn of your power as such. And when you  "you take
> that
> responsibility seriously" it leads you to see everything in
> government as
> two-sided politics and every election as a horse race because
> describing  black
> or white is easy and do-able while describing all the shades of gray
> isn't.
> 
> As an editor you make news "the" news just by the placement of a
> story or
> whether it's included at all. And with the unavoidable string of
> criticism you
> (and your coworkers, who commiserate with you) tend to take on a
> "they just
> don't understand" type arrogance that is found in few other
> professions. For
> all the "we print what the reader wants" bleatings, J-people see
> balanced
> criticism (like when they say both lefties and righties thought we
> were biased
> in the "X" story) as exculpatory of their arrogance and proof they
> are allowed
> to be so.
> 
> How many times do you hear "we have to cover BOTH sides"? Every time.
> And how
> many times do you hear "we have to cover ALL sides"? Virtually never.
> It breeds
> the two sides, black and white view of news which makes sense for the
> editor
> since you could never cover all the nuances in the small, limited
> news-hole, so
> why try?
> 
> This leads to the horse race coverage of elections and, of course, 
> reporters
> and editors are looking at the two horses at the front of the pack-
> they don't
> think it's news that a horse is running last at the same moment that 
> the first
> two are coming up on the finish line.
> 
> And when you attack them for thinking this way, their natural
> response is to
> not give your criticisms any credence at all. The best way to get
> reporters and
> editors- particularly if they've been at it a long time, is to
> commiserate with
> them, puff them up by telling them what a hard job they have and then
> trying to
> get your candidate- or hair spray for that matter- on their radar
> screen
> 
> Then, when they're listening, we need to keep reminding them of how
> the
> self-fulfilling, circular-reasoning, spiraling cause-and-effect of
> not covering
> those lower in the polls (or letting them into debates) not only
> perpetuates
> the lack of standing but eventually creates it as the  "campaign"-
> political or
> advertising progresses.
> 
> Reporters will recognize that argument if you present that to them in
> a
> non-confrontational, respectful way...
> 
> Remember- they ARE the gatekeepers and the first thing we need to do
> to get
> past that gate is get them to talk to you.
> 
> PR is a slimy job. And getting pissed off and calling them names
> doesn't get
> you the coverage you want.
> 
> I thought I had a point here but maybe I'm just ranting and
> rambling...
> 
> -----------A
> 
> civillib at cwnet.com wrote:
> 
> > The truth is that in the news media - remember I was one of those
> editors
> > for years at a wire service and big daily - we're taught that we
> ARE the
> > gatekeepers and that we, more than anyone else, have the right and
> > responsibility to decide what is news and what is now. Hey, I think
> I had a
> > class on arrogance in college (kidding. I think).
> >
> > The problem today is that although then news media generally could
> never be
> > trusted, it is now more than ever controlled by spin doctors who
> very often
> > are former reporters. I learned to be "independent" of the system,
> and
> > suspicious of it. Not today. Reporters are increasingly just
> everyday
> > people - not the mavericks protrayed in the movies - who are
> influenced by
> > "strategic voting" and lesser of 2 evil voting. Of course,
> influenced by
> > the 2 big parties. And it is sad that, at least in CA, if you'e a
> smaller
> > party candidate you're ignored. Two years ago, it wasn't as much
> the case.
> > But the panic has set in.
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> > More pressure can't hurt, as Drew suggests. There was a time I'd
> say
> > nothing good could come out of targeting mainstream news folks -
> they'd
> > only get even. Not now. We have little to lose....
> >
> > Cres
> >  At 07:44 AM 10/19/2006 -0700, JamBoi wrote:
> > >I think Rebecca's on to something here.  We need to continue to
> press
> > >this point nationally, and why not use the Chron to do it.  How
> about
> > >let's do a release where we really skewer the Chron and make a
> stink
> > >about how they are operating as the 'Gatekeepers' as to what is
> 'safe'
> > >for Americans to choose from?  If we played our cards right we
> could
> > >stir up some controversy and maybe even get some press coverage
> from
> > >rival media!
> > >
> > >After all here in California the legislature and Schwartzenegger
> just
> > >worked out an initiative on global warming -- in other words the
> > >Grope-inator is playing to the green crowd and trying to remake
> himself
> > >in the Green image!  What better time to call to task the Chron
> for
> > >excluding the Green Party candidates!!!
> > >
> > >A Million Votes for Peace!
> > >
> > >Drew
> > >
> > >--- Rebecca Rotzler <rrrotzler at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wow!  So a couple of editorial staffers are deciding what is
> best for
> > >> all
> > >> Californians, do we not smell corporate media censorship?   I
> think
> > >> the
> > >> below would be wonderful to quote in a release:
> > >> So the question comes
> > >> down to whether Californians would be better
> > >> served by a more focused and extensive comparison
> > >> of the two major-party candidates - one of whom
> > >> will be secretary of state for the next four
> > >> years - or a forum that also included the Green,
> > >> Libertarian, American Independent and Peace and
> > >> Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is that
> > >> Californians need this chance to directly compare
> > >> Bowen and McPherson.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, let us not waste the precious time of those Californians,
> the
> > >> judgement
> > >> is that they should not hear from any but two voices, and they
> must
> > >> be
> > >> spared from muddling their brains with anything but those two,
> we
> > >> don't want
> > >> to confuse them in the absolute need to compare only two, and
> nothing
> > >> but
> > >> two.  Two, got it?
> > >>
> > >> Rebecca
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 10/19/06, Julia Willebrand <julia.willebrand at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Re: "Second, it mentions the US Senate race, but says that
> "John"
> > >> > interviewed the Gree candidate "because she stood a a chance
> > >> (mistake: it
> > >> > is
> > >> > a "he," Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of beating Pelosi"
> > >> (mistake: the
> > >> > incumbent is Feinstein)."
> > >> >
> > >> > The mistake is that the comment more likely refers to Green
> > >> congressional
> > >> > candidate Krissy Keefer who is running against Nancy Pelosi.
> Krissy
> > >> is a
> > >> > very public performer/celebrity in SF and I think she is the
> only
> > >> > candidate
> > >> > running against Pelosi.
> > >> > Julia
> > >> >
> > >> > On 10/19/06 3:24 AM, "civillib at cwnet.com" <civillib at cwnet.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Thanks for this...I guess the Chronicle felt a little heat.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Just a side note, but I'm not sure who wrote - but it
> appears to
> > >> be
> > >> > someone
> > >> > > from the Chron and might explain how the know very little
> about
> > >> Greens
> > >> > > surprisingly - the message below that starts with ""Hello
> > >> Larry..." but
> > >> > it
> > >> > > is very much in error.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > First, the email refers to a "Green (Matt) Gonzalez who
> "made the
> > >> > runoff."
> > >> > > Played down just a bit. Matt entered the race very late, was
> > >> outspent
> > >> > 10-1,
> > >> > > the GOP and Dems sent big guns (from Clinton to Feinstein)
> in to
> > >> back
> > >> > > Newsom, and yet Newsom won by just a couple of percentage
> points.
> > >> A
> > >> > little
> > >> > > better than just making the runoff.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Second, it mentions the US Senate race, but says that "John"
> > >> interviewed
> > >> > > the Gree candidate "because she stood a a chance (mistake:
> it is
> > >> a "he,"
> > >> > > Todd Chretien)...And, third, "not of beating Pelosi"
> (mistake:
> > >> the
> > >> > > incumbent is Feinstein).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yikes, makes me wonder if the Chronicle has any idea of
> what's
> > >> up. As a
> > >> > > former mainstream reporter for big dailies, let me say there
> was
> > >> a
> > >> > reason
> > >> > > reporters tried to stay far away from editorial board types.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Cres
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > At 10:19 PM 10/18/2006 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote:
> > >> > >> (Courtesy of Larry Gross; forwarded to me by
> > >> > >> Scott Tucker.  Note that SF Chronicle editor John
> > >> > >> Diaz, in providing these explanations, writes
> > >> > >> "Feel free to forward to Larry or Bob or anyone
> > >> > >> else who inquires." -- Scott)
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> SF Chronicle and candidates:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Hello Larry (and Bob),
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Here is the explanation from John Diaz, our
> > >> > >> editorial page editor, who made the decision to
> > >> > >> exclude all four third party candidates from the
> > >> > >> debate, for the reasons expressed below. Let me
> > >> > >> add that in local races, the editorial board
> > >> > >> always includes Green candidates along with Dems
> > >> > >> and Repubicans because in the Bay Area, they make
> > >> > >> a strong showing and actually have a chance of
> > >> > >> winning (witness the last mayor's race where a
> > >> > >> Dem -- Newsom -- and a Green - Gonzalez, made the
> > >> > >> runoff. In the race for US Senate, John
> > >> > >> interviewed the Green candidate because she stood
> > >> > >> a chance, not of beating Pelosi, but of getting
> > >> > >> as many votes statewide as the Republican.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Here are John's thoughts:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >> From: Diaz, John
> > >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:20 AM
> > >> > >> To: Zacchino, Narda
> > >> > >> Subject: RE: What's the Chronicle up to?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Hello Narda: Here is my thinking. Feel free to
> > >> > >> forward to Larry or Bob or anyone else who
> > >> > >> inquires. It really is the perpetual question we
> > >> > >> face in the media: Whether to provide "equal"
> > >> > >> coverage to minor party candidates and thus
> > >> > >> dilute the resources & attention we apply to the
> > >> > >> major party candidates. Neither Forrest Hill nor
> > >> > >> any of the minor-party candidates for secretary
> > >> > >> of state has shown any sign of becoming a factor
> > >> > >> in the race. I have been meeting, and will
> > >> > >> continue to meet, with Green Party candidates for
> > >> > >> various offices, but on a live Webcast, our time
> > >> > >> is inherently limited.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> FYI, here's the statement I'm putting out for any
> > >> > >> media inquiries ...
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> There are six certified candidates for secretary
> > >> > >> of state. Two of them - Republican incumbent
> > >> > >> Bruce McPherson and Democrat Debra Bowen - have a
> > >> > >> plausible chance of winning. All indications are
> > >> > >> that this is an extremely close race and the two
> > >> > >> major-party candidates have two distinctly
> > >> > >> different visions about the role of secretary of
> > >> > >> state. This is their first - and only scheduled -
> > >> > >> debate of the campaign. So the question comes
> > >> > >> down to whether Californians would be better
> > >> > >> served by a more focused and extensive comparison
> > >> > >> of the two major-party candidates - one of whom
> > >> > >> will be secretary of state for the next four
> > >> > >> years - or a forum that also included the Green,
> > >> > >> Libertarian, American Independent and Peace and
> > >> > >> Freedom party candidates. Our judgment is that
> > >> > >> Californians need this chance to directly compare
> > >> > >> Bowen and McPherson.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -John
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >> From: Zacchino, Narda
> > >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:12 AM
> > >> > >> To: Diaz, John
> > >> > >> Subject: FW: What's the Chronicle up to?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> This is the chair of the communications
> > >> > >> department at usc
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >> From: Larry Gross [mailto:lpgross at usc.edu]
> > >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:00 AM
> > >> > >> To: Robert Scheer
> > >> > >> Subject: What's the Chronicle up to?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Bob,
> > >> > >> what's this all about? What was Narda think about
> > >> > >> this exclusionary, anti-democratic decision by
> > >> > >> the Chronicle? Who decided to do this anyway, and
> > >> > >> why? Larry
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > >> > >> Larry Gross
> > >> > >> Professor and Director
> > >> > >> School of Communication
> > >> > >> Annenberg School
> > >> > >> University of Southern California
> > >> > >> Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281
> > >> > >> [213] 740-3770
> > >> > >> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> To: info at voteforrest.org
> > >> > >>> Subject: Weds. 1 pm: Debate Protest
> > >> > >>> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:01:02 -0700
> > >> > >>> From: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State
> > >> > >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> > >> > >>> Reply-to: Forrest Hill for Secretary of State
> > >> > >> <info at voteforrest.org>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> PLEASE FORWARD
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Protest Forrest's exclusion from SF Debates
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Forrest has called a press conference for
> > >> > >> tomorrow
> > >> > >> (Weds.) at 1 pm to
> > >> > >>> protect his exclusion from the San Francisco
> > >> > >> Chronicle's
> > >> > >> debate.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> We need your support to let the media know that
> > >> > >> it is no
> > >> > >> longer
> > >> > >>> accepted to discriminate against third party
> > >> > >> candidates.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> If you live in the Bay Area please come down to
> > >> > >> KPIX-TV,
> > >> > >> 855 Battery
> > >> > >>> St. San Francisco, at 1 p.m. and help us make
> > >> > >> some noise.
> > >> > >> We will have
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>> signs, but feel free to bring your own.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> See press release below for details.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> URGENT NEWS ADVISORY
> > >> > >>> Tuesday October 17, 2006
> > >> > >>> Contact: Cres Vellucci, press secretary,
> > >> > >> 916.996-9170
> > >> > >>> civillib at cwnet.com
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> ATTN: Daybook/Assignment Desk
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Chronicle called undemocratic by candidate
> > >> > >>> excluded from Secretary of State debate;
> > >> > >> Pickets
> > >> > >>> expected at campaign forum Wednesday
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> SAN FRANCISCO - Green Party Secretary of State
> > >> > >> candidate
> > >> > >> Dr. Forrest
> > >> > >>> Hill charged today that the San Francisco
> > >> > >> Chronicle may
> > >> > >> have excluded
> > >> > >>> him from a televised debate on Wednesday either
> > >> > >> because
> > >> > >> the paper
> > >> > >>> "does not believe in democracy (or) because I
> > >> > >> am the only
> > >> > >> openly gay
> > >> > >>> candidate running for statewide office."
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Hill has called a news conference - and a
> > >> > >> picket of the
> > >> > >> debate -
> > >> > >>> WEDNESDAY,at KPIX-TV, 855 Battery St., at 1
> > >> > >> p.m., shortly
> > >> > >> before the
> > >> > >>> debate is due to begin.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> The debate will feature incumbent Republican
> > >> > >> Bruce
> > >> > >> McPherson and
> > >> > >>> Democrat Debra Bowen, but the Chronicle
> > >> > >> excluded Hill,
> > >> > >> who has a
> > >> > >>> doctorate from the Massachusetts Institute of
> > >> > >> Technology
> > >> > >> and is a
> > >> > >>> former campaign advisor to Ralph Nader.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> In a letter to the Chronicle, Hill said he
> > >> > >> found it
> > >> > >> "simply
> > >> > >>> irresponsible for a powerful news outlet like
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> Chronicle to limit
> > >> > >>> voter choices by promoting only two points of
> > >> > >> view...in a
> > >> > >> city where
> > >> > >>> Greens often out poll Republicans.
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> "The Chronicle has an opportunity to take the
> > >> > >> high road
> > >> > >> by opening up
> > >> > >>> the debate to candidates running outside the
> > >> > >> two
> > >> > >> mainstream parties.
> > >> > >>> (The Chronicle) can play an important role in
> > >> > >> rebuilding
> > >> > >> confidence in
> > >> > >> our Democratic system by allowing me to take part
> > >> > >> in
> > >> > >> Wednesday's
> > >> > >> Secretary of State debate," said Hill.
> > >> > >>> -30-
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
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From wrolley at charter.net  Sat Oct 21 09:05:29 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 09:05:29 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [usgp-media] Re: SF Chronicle editors explain
 why they barGreens from debates
In-Reply-To: <20061021152711.87958.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061021152711.87958.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <453A4549.1020701@charter.net>

I am not on the national email list, so this won't go there... maybe you 
can forward it, Drew, if you think it worthy.

I want to basically agreee with your position that normal process is not 
getting what we want.  My experience is limited. I am not a journalist.  
My closest contact is a son-in-law who graduated from the U,. of 
Missouri School of Journalism and then went in to advertising.  However, 
I have been heavily involved in the 11th Congressional District campaign 
in California and have worked on a number of efforts to influence the 
media, both local and national. It has been a pleasure to watch Pete 
McCloskey work the media.  So, what I say is based on knowing what 
worked and what did not work in  this role.

I would add that we need to extend the range of what we do, not replace 
the current release process, just because there are some who measure 
your effectiveness (and associated credibility) by the quality and 
timliness of the press releases that are produced.

Andy is right about the dedication to the "story."  In some cases, it is 
for the story.  In others, it is more for the advancement of one's 
career by being the one to get the story first.

I am an active blogger.  I have a diary on DailyKos.  I own a local blog 
called PomboWatch and another called CAGreening.  If I blog something, 
it does not get picked up in the press.  There is no story for the 
reporter then unless the story is about bloggers. However, if I do all 
of my homework outlining a story, laying out the facts, developing a 
timeline if needbe, and make that availabe to members of the press with 
whom I have taken the time to develop a relationship, then it may be 
picked up.  I won't get any credit at all.  Then, once that story hits, 
I can make it rattle through the blogoshpere to amplify it, and by 
association, amplify the career of the reporter.

The best examle that I know of where someone did this was the recent 
story about Richard Pombo and Jack Abramoff that was released by Erica 
Werner of AP.  That story came from someone I know, was offered around 
to several reporters and finally Erica picked up on it.  The fact is 
that every one of those reporters had all of the information that would 
have made the story, they just did not take the time and trouble to 
connect the dots.

The other thing that I know is that bloggers have a reputation of 
critiquing reporters, or their newspapers. For every story there are 
potentiall hundreds of fact checkers. If that is all you do, then, as a 
blogger, you eventually fail and make enemies out of the reporters.  The 
antidote is to be factual, give the reporter the credit they deserve, 
keep the fact checking critiques out of the public eye unless it is so 
blatant that you must comment, then give the reporter a warning or a 
concurrent note. It is all about maintaining one's credibility.

I know of at least 3 more stories about Pombo or his opponent, Jerry 
McNerney, that are in the works and which reporter is working them.

My goal is to create situations where both the reporter or editor and I 
can achieve our goals.  I get the word out, they get the story.  We both 
know that we are using each other.

Finally, we have had good results by setting up a type of rapid response 
effort outside of any campaign.  I do get campaign press releases sent 
to me.  I also get multiple news alerts and various pieces of 
information tossed through the transom.  By having a distribution list 
of those who are more skilled than I in writing or have others that are 
willing to modify, sign and send letters to local papers across the 
district, I can have some degree of control on which messages are 
getting attention.

Humor works.  So does havig a "name".  Editors will print something with 
McCloskey's name when they would not print the same thing with my name.

That is it.  If this helps extend the range of what we are doing, then 
that is a plus.  Note, I said "extend the range".  We still need to be 
able to respond quickly and precisely to events in the normal manner.


Thank you Andy, Cres, and Scott for sharing your experience! I'm

>really appreciating the quality of discussion that y'all are
>contributing.  
>
>I've also been a reporter and editor, and PR person so I judge that my
>experience and view point will provide similar value.
>
>To a large degree I believe we need to play our hand quite differently
>than we would if we were representing a Dem or Repub.  I think we are
>not succeeding in getting the coverage we need with our present
>strategy.  We are churning out marvelous press releases, but are they
>getting written into stories and published?  No, I'm not seeing it
>happen currently.
>
>I think we need to operate in a very 'guerilla marketing' sort of way
>to get media coverage.  I think we need to stir up the muck, create
>some positive (for us) controversy that really throws a cold light on
>the fixed nature of this political game.   Our conventional approach is
>not getting us where we want to go IMO. 
>

Wes Rolley		 
17211 Quail Court	
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408)778-3024

"Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore



From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue Oct 24 13:17:36 2006
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:17:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  Help a Green get elected
Message-ID: <453E74E0.7040302@freeshell.org>

Remember?  Today and Thursday we will be preparing Tian's campaign cards 
to be mailed to thousands of voters.

Where?  At Lois' and my place (Unit 45) at our Willow Park Condo at the 
intersection of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd.

When? 3 PM - 9 PM.

Food?  Yes.  Spaghetti and Marinara Sauce will be served at 6:00PM. 
Bring salad and/or veggies if you wish.  We'll also have Tian's Oreos 
with ice cream.

We can have the World Series on TV with the sound muted.  Also, I think 
Tian may be on a local TV station forum tonight.  If so, we can turn 
that on too.

Please be at the BEE!

Fred Duperrault

Dear Green Friends,

Green Party activist Tian Harter has a chance to be one of three
candidates among eight to be elected to the Mountain View' City
Council.  However, he needs more volunteers to reach more voters and to
help get his message across.

Tian has been meeting hundreds of people, walking precincts almost every
day for the last month.  That is how City Council Member Greg Perry got
elected several years ago.

A number of volunteers have also walked precincts, placing Tian's flyer
in the doorways.  Still there will be a number of precincts he  will not
get to.  So it is important that the hundreds, or thousands, of voters
in those areas of the city receive his hand bill.  More volunteers are
needed to finish that job.

Also, on Tuesday and Thursday of next week (October 24 and 26)  a
campaign card Mailing Prep Bee will held at Lois' and my place, in Unit
#45 of Building #1 of the Willow Park Condo complex, at the intersection
of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd. in Mountain View. (The best
entrance is from Moffett, just north of Middlefield.)

The Mailing Bee will begin at 3:00 PM and continue until 9 O'Clock on
each of those two days.  Spaghetti and Meat Sauce and Meatless Sauce
will be served.  Pot Luck salads and/or veggies will be welcomed.
(Thousands of cards will need stamps and mailing addresses attached.)

If we are so lucky as to complete the mailing preparation on Tuesday, we
will notify you via this "SosfbayDiscuss."

Wouldn't it be great to get a real Green elected to the MV City Council?!

Please lend a hand!

Fred Duperrault, at 650-691-1215 or fredd at freeshell.org

(Tian's:  650-964-6481 or TNHarter at greens.org)


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From baalavi at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 24 23:29:08 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:29:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help a Green get elected
In-Reply-To: <453E74E0.7040302@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <20061025062908.77452.qmail@web52112.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Fred, Thanks again for organizing this.  How did it go over at your place?  
   
  The batch of 1000 I had picked up was just finished.  Tomorrow morning I'll drop it off at Tian's.  
   
  ba

Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org> wrote:
  Remember? Today and Thursday we will be preparing Tian's campaign cards 
to be mailed to thousands of voters.

Where? At Lois' and my place (Unit 45) at our Willow Park Condo at the 
intersection of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd.

When? 3 PM - 9 PM.

Food? Yes. Spaghetti and Marinara Sauce will be served at 6:00PM. 
Bring salad and/or veggies if you wish. We'll also have Tian's Oreos 
with ice cream.

We can have the World Series on TV with the sound muted. Also, I think 
Tian may be on a local TV station forum tonight. If so, we can turn 
that on too.

Please be at the BEE!

Fred Duperrault

Dear Green Friends,

Green Party activist Tian Harter has a chance to be one of three
candidates among eight to be elected to the Mountain View' City
Council. However, he needs more volunteers to reach more voters and to
help get his message across.

Tian has been meeting hundreds of people, walking precincts almost every
day for the last month. That is how City Council Member Greg Perry got
elected several years ago.

A number of volunteers have also walked precincts, placing Tian's flyer
in the doorways. Still there will be a number of precincts he will not
get to. So it is important that the hundreds, or thousands, of voters
in those areas of the city receive his hand bill. More volunteers are
needed to finish that job.

Also, on Tuesday and Thursday of next week (October 24 and 26) a
campaign card Mailing Prep Bee will held at Lois' and my place, in Unit
#45 of Building #1 of the Willow Park Condo complex, at the intersection
of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd. in Mountain View. (The best
entrance is from Moffett, just north of Middlefield.)

The Mailing Bee will begin at 3:00 PM and continue until 9 O'Clock on
each of those two days. Spaghetti and Meat Sauce and Meatless Sauce
will be served. Pot Luck salads and/or veggies will be welcomed.
(Thousands of cards will need stamps and mailing addresses attached.)

If we are so lucky as to complete the mailing preparation on Tuesday, we
will notify you via this "SosfbayDiscuss."

Wouldn't it be great to get a real Green elected to the MV City Council?!

Please lend a hand!

Fred Duperrault, at 650-691-1215 or fredd at freeshell.org

(Tian's: 650-964-6481 or TNHarter at greens.org)


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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Wed Oct 25 00:25:18 2006
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:25:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help a Green get elected
In-Reply-To: <20061025062908.77452.qmail@web52112.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061025062908.77452.qmail@web52112.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <453F115E.3080105@ispwest.com>

Bob Alavi wrote:

> Hi Fred, Thanks again for organizing this.  How did it go over at your 
> place?

I think we got about 2 to 3 thousand done. There are still about 5000 to 
go. Next installment of the mailing party is Thursday evening at Freds! 
Everybody is invited. There is much more room there than at my place...

When I got there everybody said they enjoyed watching me on TV.

>  
> The batch of 1000 I had picked up was just finished.  Tomorrow morning 
> I'll drop it off at Tian's. 
>  
> ba

That's great! I look forward to seeing them.

-- 
Tian
I've been car free since I totaled the stickermobile 10/23 @~ 1PM.
Please come to Mountain View to walk a precinct for my campaign!
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed Oct 25 06:42:25 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:42:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [usgp-media] (Action Alert?) Write a letter
	to the editor: Debate sponsors must invite Green candidates!
Message-ID: <20061025134225.6841.qmail@web52213.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
> To: usgp-media at gp-us.org, elizarnone at comcast.net,
> j.coplen at comcast.net,
>   newtribe at hughes.net, budd.dickinson at greens.org,
> scooter at guisarme.net,
>   rebelrot at yahoo.com, echothegreen at riseup.net, jodyhaug at hotmail.com,
>   secretary at gp.org, brent at gp.org, emily at gp.org,
> rscotttoo at hotmail.com,
>   amandlagreen at yahoo.com
> Subject: [usgp-media] (Action Alert?) Write a letter to the editor:
> Debate sponsors must invite Green candidates!
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> (Let's get this posted at gp.org as an Action
> Alert -- edit if necessary.  I prefer not to use
> sample letters, because it tends to encourage
> lots of nearly identical letters, which makes us
> look less legitimate if editors find out. --
> Scott)
> 
> 
> Please forward this widely to all Greens &
> friends, Green lists, Green candidates, and
> Greens working on campaigns
> 
> 
> Hey Greens!
> 
> Let's show our candidates some urgent support by
> writing LETTERS TO THE EDITOR of local newspapers
> calling for inclusion of Greens running for
> office in all candidates' debates and forums.
> 
> Along with letters to the editor, we can also
> write messages to online discussion groups and
> neighborhood bulletin boards calling for
> inclusion of Greens and other third party and
> independent candidates in debates.
> 
> Here are some important points to make...
> 
> ? Voters have a right to know about all the names
> they'll see on the ballot on Election Day, and to
> know which candidate best represents their
> interests and ideals.  When debate sponsors bar
> candidates, they violate this right.
> 
> If a voter wants US troops returned home from
> Iraq right now or supports national health
> insurance or livable wages or repeal of NAFTA,
> that voter has a right to know that there's a
> Green candidate on the ballot who takes the same
> positions, and to make a decision about who to
> vote for based on this information.
> 
> ? When debate sponsors (especially media) base
> their decision to bar candidates on opinion poll
> percentages or candidates' campaign treasuries,
> then opinion polls and campaign treasuries become
> more important than the ballot box in determining
> who gets elected.
> 
> Opinion polls are not democracy.  Some polls omit
> Greens and other parties' candidates, and only
> mention Democratic and Republican candidates in
> their questions.  Any candidate whose name is on
> the ballot is a 'legitimate' and 'viable'
> candidate.
> 
> ? Democratic and Republican candidates all across
> the US take millions in campaign contributions
> from corporations.  Voters deserve to hear from
> candidates -- like Greens -- who represent WE THE
> PEOPLE and take no corporate money, not just
> candidates who represent corporate interests.
> 
> If you want to get specific about the amount of
> corporate money that's funding the Democratic &
> Republican opposition, visit the Center for
> Voting & Democracy <http://www.opensecrets.org>.
> 
> ? Praise organizations that have sponsored
> inclusive debates.  In some states, the League of
> Women Voters withdrew in protest when cosponsors
> insisted on excluding Greens and other candidates
> from debates.  They deserve our thanks.
> 
> ? Don't forget to mention the name of a local
> Green candidate who has been excluded from a
> debate.  Talk about strong positions your
> candidate has taken and include a web site.
> 
> Use your own ideas and words, or adapt the above
> language.  Remember to keep your letter concise
> and to the point.  The shorter the letter, the
> more likely it'll get published -- you don't have
> to include all the points listed above.  Four to
> six sentences is a good length.  If you make the
> letter personal in some way ("I'm a tenant, and
> the Green candidate will fight for rent control")
> or some humor, it's even more likely to get
> published.
> 
> Start writing, and let us know if your letter
> gets published!
> 
> Scott
> Media Committee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From andid at cagreens.org  Wed Oct 25 08:28:30 2006
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:28:30 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FCC hearing in Oakland this Friday!
Message-ID: <84753335-254A-4669-A78E-71084959C935@cagreens.org>

Marriott (Civic Center?) in Oakland, 5 PM, Friday.  (near BART station)
Hearing re media consolidation.
Here they go again!
Andrea


From andid at cagreens.org  Wed Oct 25 10:17:24 2006
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:17:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: THURSDAY HEALTH CARE RALLY SAN JOSE
References: <20061025165713.27143.qmail@web809.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9741B199-9EFF-4312-813F-0B8E955E681F@cagreens.org>

FYI.  I am getting a barrage of emails re health care rally; it's my  
area of expertise, so I won't assume that you all are getting these  
as well.  I'm forwarding the notice I received from one of our Green  
members, Cathy Deppe.
Note the plans they have to be very *visible* and to reach out to  
latinos.
Best,
Andrea

Andrea Dorey
Santa Clara County Green Party
408-306-1900  (cell)

"Serving the powerful is like sleeping with a tiger."

"It is difficult to get off a tiger's back."


Begin forwarded message:
> To: cdeppe at 9to5bayarea.org
> Subject: THURSDAY HEALTH CARE RALLY SAN JOSE
>
>
> OCTOBER 26 - EVERYBODY IN, NOBODY OUT!
>
> 9to5 is marching behind a red and black 9to5 banner - please look  
> for us and join in.  We have new flyers, English/Spanish, to  
> distribute and need your help.
>
> We hope you are already planning to participate in the large  
> downtown San Jose "March and Rally for Health Care Now!" this  
> Thursday, October 26.  This event is part of the One Care Now  
> campaign to establish a single payer universal health care system  
> in California.  There are four parts to the San Jose activity -   
> you may participate in any or all that work with your schedule.
>
>
> Along with housing, health care is one of the fundamental human  
> needs.  More than 7.5 million Californians do not have adequate  
> health care coverage.  Every year some 18,000 Americans die from  
> lack of health care.  We will be remembering them with a silent  
> vigil at the end of the rally this Thursday.
>
> Universal single payer health care is something we must win.  SB  
> 840 will be reintroduced next year.  It was not killed by the  
> governor's veto in September.  But the legislature will not act  
> without public support.  The time has come to get involved, to  
> unite, and to educate ourselves about these issues and how to win.
>
>
> DATE:  THURSDAY, OCTOBER 26
> 3 PM    RALLY AT THE STATE BUILDING
>         (100 Paseo de San Antonio between 2nd and 3rd, north of San  
> Carlos - next to the SJ Rep)
>
> 4:15 PM    MARCH TO CITY HALL (5 blocks)
>
> 4:45 - 5:15 PM    RALLY ON THE STEPS OF FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH
>         (80 South 5th Street - north from San Fernando)
>
> 5:30 - 7:00 PM    CLOSING RALLY AT THE STATE BUILDING
>
>
>
>
> 9to5 Bay Area
> National Association of Working Women
> 2302 Zanker Road
> San Jose, CA 95131
> 408-432-6044

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Wed Oct 25 11:30:09 2006
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:30:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]   Help a Green get elected
Message-ID: <453FAD31.6060602@freeshell.org>



For answers to your questions, please read the messages (below) that 
were sent last week and yesterday.

Fred


Remember?  Today and Thursday we will be preparing Tian's campaign cards
to be mailed to thousands of voters.

Where?  At Lois' and my place (Unit 45) at our Willow Park Condo at the
intersection of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd.

When? 3 PM - 9 PM.

Food?  Yes.  Spaghetti and Marinara Sauce will be served at 6:00PM.
Bring salad and/or veggies if you wish.  We'll also have Tian's Oreos
with ice cream.

We can have the World Series on TV with the sound muted.  Also, I think
Tian may be on a local TV station forum tonight.  If so, we can turn
that on too.

Please be at the BEE!

Fred Duperrault

Dear Green Friends,

Green Party activist Tian Harter has a chance to be one of three
candidates among eight to be elected to the Mountain View' City
Council.  However, he needs more volunteers to reach more voters and to
help get his message across.

Tian has been meeting hundreds of people, walking precincts almost every
day for the last month.  That is how City Council Member Greg Perry got
elected several years ago.

A number of volunteers have also walked precincts, placing Tian's flyer
in the doorways.  Still there will be a number of precincts he  will not
get to.  So it is important that the hundreds, or thousands, of voters
in those areas of the city receive his hand bill.  More volunteers are
needed to finish that job.

Also, on Tuesday and Thursday of next week (October 24 and 26)  a
campaign card Mailing Prep Bee will held at Lois' and my place, in Unit
#45 of Building #1 of the Willow Park Condo complex, at the intersection
of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Blvd. in Mountain View. (The best
entrance is from Moffett, just north of Middlefield.)

The Mailing Bee will begin at 3:00 PM and continue until 9 O'Clock on
each of those two days.  Spaghetti and Meat Sauce and Meatless Sauce
will be served.  Pot Luck salads and/or veggies will be welcomed.
(Thousands of cards will need stamps and mailing addresses attached.)

If we are so lucky as to complete the mailing preparation on Tuesday, we
will notify you via this "SosfbayDiscuss."

Wouldn't it be great to get a real Green elected to the MV City Council?!

Please lend a hand!

Fred Duperrault, at 650-691-1215 or fredd at freeshell.org

(Tian's:  650-964-6481 or TNHarter at greens.org)


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From andid at cagreens.org  Wed Oct 25 15:07:08 2006
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:07:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Rally Sponsors--Where's GP?
Message-ID: <38EDE46D-0BB9-4CFC-935D-05AA89273B60@cagreens.org>

Sponsoring organizations for rally and march: AFSCME 101, MEF  
Chapter, California Alliance for Retired Americans (CARA), California  
Nurse Association (CNA), California School Employees Association  
(CSEA), Coalition for a Downtown Hospital, Communications Workers of  
America Local 9423 (CWA), Community Homeless Alliance Ministry  
(CHAM), Democratic Activists for Women Now (DAWN), Eastside Teachers  
Association, Evergreen Democratic Club, Filipino Community Support  
(FOCUS), FORUM of Santa Clara County, Health Access, Interfaith  
Council, Health Care for All-California (Silicon Valley Chapter),  
Labor Party (San Jose), 9 to 5 Bay Area, League of Women Voters SJ/ 
SC, Low-Income Self-Help Center, Moorpark Democratic Club, PAWIS,  
Santa Clara county Council of Churches, Santa Clara County Democratic  
Central Committee, SEIU Local 535, SEIU Local 715, SEIU Local 715  
Retiree Committee, Silicon Valley De-Bug, UFCW Local 428, Voluntarios  
de la Comunidad, Women?s International League for Peace and Freedom  
(WILPF) San Jose and Peninsula branches


Too bad we aren't on that list!
Andrea




From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 26 12:27:22 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:27:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [usgp-media] Valuable resource for Green
	campaign outreach: Vote-USA.org
Message-ID: <20061026192723.65207.qmail@web52212.mail.yahoo.com>



--- Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
> To: usgp-media at gp-us.org
> Subject: [usgp-media] Valuable resource for Green campaign outreach:
> Vote-USA.org
> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:20:56 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> (Please forward to all Green lists)
> 
> Attn all Green candidates, campaign managers,
> campaign outreach directors, etc....
> 
> There's an excellent resource for candidates to
> disseminate information about their campaigns. 
> It's called Vote-USA <http://www.vote-usa.org>,
> and it allows candidates to upload their campaign
> information, platform, photos, web site links,
> etc. for quick and easy viewing by the media and
> the public.
> 
> Vote-USA lets voters see what their ballots will
> look like on Election Day, and enables them to
> read about each of the candidates on the ballot,
> their positions, etc.  So far, over 100,000
> 'customized ballots' have been viewed.
> 
> Vote-USA was created by Ron Kahlow, a Virginia
> Green.  Ron has begun an advertising campaign
> with Google to promote Vote-USA: whenever a voter
> enters one of the most common search phrases
> seeking candidate and voting information, he or
> she will be provided with a sponsored link to
> Vote-USA.
> 
> Ron is encouraging candidates all over the US to
> upload information about their campaigns to
> Vote-USA, and especially hopes that Greens will
> take advantage of the site.  You probably already
> received a letter in the mail from him.
> 
> I strongly encourage Green candidates to visit
> and place lots of campaign information at
> Vote-USA <http://www.vote-usa.org>.  If, as a
> candidate, you're too busy right now, maybe
> someone in your campaign can follow up on it.
> 
> If you have any questions, you can write to Ron
> at <Mgr at Vote-USA.org>, or write back to me.
> 
> Scott McLarty
> Media Committee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 27 07:28:08 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:28:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Breaking the Silence: Global Exchange
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 27 07:34:30 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:34:30 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Wish us luck, myself and Tian
Message-ID: <454218F6.8030506@charter.net>

After several years of blogging, writing, organizing against my 
congressman, Richard Pombo, I note that a recent poll, leaked to this 
individual, has his opponent Jerry McNerney at 47% and Pombo at 42%,.  
Based on past history, Pombo's campaign will get even dirtier and more 
divisive.

I am beginnign to think about what I will do with my additional free 
time after the election.

-- 
Wes Rolley		 
17211 Quail Court	
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408)778-3024

"Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri Oct 27 12:22:34 2006
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:22:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Still two weekends to get the word out!
Message-ID: <45425C7A.4080107@ispwest.com>

This week was a big success for my City Council Campaign.
We got 8800 postcards in the mail thanks to Fred, Lois, Mike,
Stephanie, Bob, Roy, Cameron, Eric, Arlen and Jean. We walked
a dozen precincts thanks to Bob, Jodi, Greg, Cameron, Phil,
Anne, Robin, Pat, Keith, John D., Kyra, Rob, and I.

Looking forward, there are still about a dozen precincts to
walk. Anybody that has time for that kind of thing please
let me know. I will be handing out kits until about 11 AM on
Saturday here and at the farmers market on Sunday till it
closes. If I know you are coming I'll have one set up for you.

Also, last Friday we had a good showing for the peace vigil
at El Camino & Castro from 6 to 7. Let's do that again this
week!

-- 
Tian
I've been car free since I totaled the stickermobile 10/23 @~ 1PM.
Tuesday Oct. 31st. is the last day I can accept political donations.
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854



From baalavi at yahoo.com  Fri Oct 27 15:35:24 2006
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:35:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Still two weekends to get the word out!
In-Reply-To: <45425C7A.4080107@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <20061027223524.45900.qmail@web52104.mail.yahoo.com>

On a different note:
   
  SATURDAY (10/28) MORNING, there will be a "meet the candidate" kind of debate somewhere.  Last Monday KMVT had one.
   
  I think it would be a good idea to work on a "list of Q&As" for Greens to field, so the Green Candidates (and Green 10-Key http://www.gp.org/tenkey.shtml  Values) may "stand out" amongst the crowd as well as help educating the public on them.
   
  Any suggestions for "Saturday"?
   
  ba

Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:
  This week was a big success for my City Council Campaign.
We got 8800 postcards in the mail thanks to Fred, Lois, Mike,
Stephanie, Bob, Roy, Cameron, Eric, Arlen and Jean. We walked
a dozen precincts thanks to Bob, Jodi, Greg, Cameron, Phil,
Anne, Robin, Pat, Keith, John D., Kyra, Rob, and I.

Looking forward, there are still about a dozen precincts to
walk. Anybody that has time for that kind of thing please
let me know. I will be handing out kits until about 11 AM on
Saturday here and at the farmers market on Sunday till it
closes. If I know you are coming I'll have one set up for you.

Also, last Friday we had a good showing for the peace vigil
at El Camino & Castro from 6 to 7. Let's do that again this
week!

-- 
Tian
I've been car free since I totaled the stickermobile 10/23 @~ 1PM.
Tuesday Oct. 31st. is the last day I can accept political donations.
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854

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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 27 17:46:27 2006
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:46:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] holiday peace fair
Message-ID: <4542A863.3080204@sbcglobal.net>

The announcement for this year's holiday peace fair is

*24th Annual Holiday Peace Fair*
*
Saturday, December 2, 2006 ? 11 AM to 4 PM
Fellowship Hall,
Campbell United Methodist Church
1675 Winchester Blvd., Campbell, CA
(just south of **Hamilton Avenue**)*

Helpers will be needed for the 8 amto 9 am set up of the tables and 
chairs in the hall,
a shift of staffing the entrance table, and
the cleanup and put away of the tables and chairs from 4:30 pm to 5:30 pm.



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri Oct 27 21:27:57 2006
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:27:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Still two weekends to get the word out!
In-Reply-To: <20061027223524.45900.qmail@web52104.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061027223524.45900.qmail@web52104.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4542DC4D.7080707@ispwest.com>

Bob Alavi wrote:

> On a different note:
>  
> SATURDAY (10/28) MORNING, there will be a "meet the candidate" kind of 
> debate somewhere.  Last Monday KMVT had one.
>  
> I think it would be a good idea to work on a "list of Q&As" for Greens 
> to field, so the Green Candidates (and Green 
> 10-Key http://www.gp.org/tenkey.shtml  Values) may "stand out" amongst 
> the crowd as well as help educating the public on them.
>  
> Any suggestions for "Saturday"?
>  
> ba

You must be talking about the one at 9:30 AM at Monta Loma School, 460 
Thompson.

I'd love a question that the answer to involves better transit. It seems 
like the topic never comes up...

-- 
Tian
I've been car free since I totaled the stickermobile 10/23 @~ 1PM.
Tuesday Oct. 31st. is the last day I can accept political donations.
http://tianharter.org
Tian Harter for City Council
P.O. Box 391854
Mountain View CA 94039-1854



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sat Oct 28 23:07:23 2006
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:07:23 EST
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FWIW Warner's Judge and DA Picks
Message-ID: <111.65e06e20.32759f1b@aol.com>

I get asked about judge and district attorney candidates because I am an  
attorney.  
 
I suggest Karen Sinunu for District Attorney vs. Judge Dolores Carr.   As 
reported in the press, Sinunu was involved in at least two cases reviewing a  
wrongful conviction and a wrongful arrest and has responded to requests for  
press interviews.  She has articulated a policy that DA mistakes should be  
acknowledged and corrected.  No question she is as agressive a prosecutor  as any 
other.  But she also has broad administrative experience in the  office, unlike 
Carr who mostly focused on sex and domestic violence  crimes.  Carr is an ok 
judge and has done some good administrative stuff in  the Family Law Court.
 
I suggest Michele McCoy over Tim Pitsker for Superior Court Judge.   Either 
continues the general tendency to pack the court with ex-DAs.  McCoy  has been 
out of the DA's office for awhile in a teaching position (for judges  and DAs) 
and her statement speaks more from the personal rather than Pitsker's  
typical DA gonna get em text.  New judges initially get fed to the  arraignment and 
pretrial criminal calendars, but they usually get into the civil  law rotation 
eventually.  McCoy, in my mind, has a broader background than  Pitsker.
 
'Hope this helps.  Warner 
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 29 10:53:45 2006
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:53:45 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Thursday 11-2 agenda
Message-ID: <4544F8B9.3060708@sbcglobal.net>

This is a request for agenda items for next Thursday's meeting.
This time I will collect your suggestions and prepare the agenda and
have it ready at our Thursday meeting.

Here's a start

1)  Get well card for Dana including flowers
2)  Treasurer's report
3)  Discussion of finances: what has been done, what can be done, and 
what will be done.
4)  GOTV  get out the vote phone banking
5)  Precinct walking for Tian and Carol
6)  Report on IRV activities afoot and discussion of how we could 
imitate those approaches
7)  tabling in the days before the election
8)  election night gathering in the community room of the complex where 
Tian lives

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 29 10:55:41 2006
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:55:41 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda 11-2
Message-ID: <4544F92D.70801@sbcglobal.net>

oops!

9)  Holiday peace fair Saturday December 2-nd

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 29 10:57:51 2006
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:57:51 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] biodiesel
Message-ID: <4544F9AF.8070205@sbcglobal.net>

 From time to time there are notices about biodiesel
Who is the contact person on this issue?

What about biodiesel for cars?

Jim Doyle



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun Oct 29 12:26:20 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:26:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Greens hope anger over war opens doors (SF
	Chronicle)
Message-ID: <20061029202620.16498.qmail@web52205.mail.yahoo.com>


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/28/BAG9IM1UTI1.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea
Greens hope anger over war opens doors (SF Chronicle)

San Francisco Chronicle
CALIFORNIA 
Saturday, October 28, 2006 Greens hope anger over war opens doors Party
urges voters to use ballot to send 'powerful message'
John Wildermuth, Chronicle Political Writer

For California's Green Party, the new radio ad for their candidate for
governor, Peter Camejo, says it all. 

"The polls show that the race for governor is over," Camejo says in the
30-second commercial. "A vote for the Democrat will send no message,
but a vote for the Green Party, which opposes war, the Patriot Act ...
would be a powerful message to vote for peace.'' 

Up and down the Green Party ticket, candidates are scrambling to use
Californians' growing disaffection with the war in Iraq to draw
progressive Democrats and independent liberals to their party 
in November. 

"I'm running for Congress to impeach the president,'' said Krissy
Keefer, who's challenging Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi for her San
Francisco congressional seat. "People are very, very unhappy with
(Pelosi's) leadership in this town." 

Todd Chretien, the Green candidate for U.S. Senate, wants to
immediately pull U.S. troops out of Iraq and argues that a vote for him
instead of Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein would "send a shot across
the bows of the Democratic Party'' and let them know how serious the
anti-war effort is. 

But the ad also shows that in the governor's race, like all state and
national Green Party campaigns, the emphasis continues to be more about
fighting the good ideological fight than actually winning an election. 

"We could draw between 40 percent and 60 percent of the Democrats who
agree more with us than they do with Phil Angelides," the Democratic
candidate for governor, Camejo said. "But we're not in a position to
win, so we don't get that support.'' 

Despite the anti-war feeling in the state, it has been tougher than
ever for the Greens to get their message out, said Camejo, who ran for
governor in 2002 and in the 2003 recall election. 

In 2003, when Camejo turned in a strong performance in a televised
debate with Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger and three other rivals in
the recall, "the attention poured in,'' the 66-year-old Folsom resident
said. But this year, "our voice cannot be heard,'' especially after
Camejo was not allowed to join Schwarzenegger and Angelides in the lone
governor's debate. 

Camejo's disappointment isn't unusual for the Green Party. In its 24
years on the California ballot, the party's only win in a partisan
election came in 1999, when Audie Bock shocked Democrat Elihu Harris to
win the special election for an Oakland Assembly seat. 

The joy was short lived, though. Within months, Bock left the Green
Party to run for re-election as an independent, lost to Democrat Wilma
Chan in 2000, and reregistered as a Democrat. 

The party has had more success at the local level. San Francisco
Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi is the highest ranking of the 62 Green Party
members holding office in California, and there are party members on
city councils in Sonoma, Fairfax, Moraga, Martinez, Napa, Richmond,
Berkeley and Sebastopol. 

But in state races, the party can do little more than talk about good
efforts. In June, for example, Sarah Knopp, a Los Angeles high school
teacher and Green Party member, finished second in the nonpartisan race
for superintendent of public instruction, pulling a record 695,000
votes for the party. But because incumbent Jack O'Connell, a Democrat,
took 52 percent of the vote, he won re-election without a November
runoff with Knopp. 

With 140,085 registered voters, the Greens represent less than 1
percent of the California electorate. They have fewer than half the
members of the American Independent Party, which was formed as part of
former Alabama Gov. George Wallace's run for president in 1968,
although more than the Libertarian, Natural Law and Peace and Freedom
parties, which also are qualified for the state 
ballot. 

Camejo ran ahead of the party registration with 5.3 percent of the vote
in 2002 and 2.8 percent in 2003. In the 2002 governor's race, he pulled
more votes than Republican Bill Simon in San Francisco, Oakland,
Berkeley, Fairfax, Santa Cruz and Sebastopol. 

"Progressives have to feel it's safe to vote for a Green candidate,"
Camejo said. "If the Green vote went to 10 percent, it would shock the
Democrats." 

That's why Camejo's ad, which will also show up in a 15-second TV
version, is aimed at convincing Democrats and other liberal voters that
they can back a Green candidate for governor without changing the final
outcome. 

Camejo's support might not make a dent in the governor's race, which
has two well-known candidates, but Green candidate Chretien could make
some ripples in the Senate race, in which Feinstein is expected to romp
to victory over former GOP state Sen. Dick Mountjoy of Monrovia (Los
Angeles County), who has little visibility and less money. But the
former San Francisco mayor's original votes for the war in Iraq and the
Patriot Act, along with her support of the death penalty, have some
progressive voters looking for an alternative on the left. 

Cres Vellucci, a Green Party spokesman, described Camejo's TV and radio
buy as "below modest," but he argued that the visibility provided by
the ads and others being run in state and legislative races is
important to the party. 

"It says that our candidates are running serious campaigns and that
they're in it to win," he said. "Chances are they're not going to, but
they act that way." 

Camejo described the process as "planting seeds: You're trying to reach
young people, create momentum, and get local people elected." 

The Green Party hopes those efforts can reach the people who are
looking for an alternative to the Democrats and Republicans, said
Forrest Hill, the Greens' candidate for secretary of state. 

"With many groups I talk to, they're not ready to vote Green," he said.
"But when you say that we need a viable third party, you get a standing
ovation." 

E-mail John Wildermuth at jwildermuth at sfchronicle.com

JamBoi
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Sun Oct 29 18:23:56 2006
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:23:56 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  biodiesel
Message-ID: <4545623C.6080506@freeshell.org>

Bill Michel has been, for more than a year, offering to speak about it 
to the Green Party.  Let's set a date at Thursday's pow wow.

Fred

  From time to time there are notices about biodiesel
Who is the contact person on this issue?

What about biodiesel for cars?

Jim Doyle

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 30 08:20:58 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:20:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] biodiesel
In-Reply-To: <4545623C.6080506@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <20061030162058.83941.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com>

I recently found a connection of a local company that sells used
Mercedes diesels and has made whatever tweaks are necessary and sold
some set up for biodiesels.  E-mail me for details.

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

--- Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org> wrote:

> Bill Michel has been, for more than a year, offering to speak about
> it 
> to the Green Party.  Let's set a date at Thursday's pow wow.
> 
> Fred
> 
>   From time to time there are notices about biodiesel
> Who is the contact person on this issue?
> 
> What about biodiesel for cars?
> 
> Jim Doyle
> 
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From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Oct 30 13:48:29 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:48:29 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] A Land out of Time
Message-ID: <4546732D.9020308@charter.net>

If someone can set up a time and place for screeening A Land out of 
Time, I will buy the DVD.  You can read about this at the web site they 
sent up http://www.alandoutoftime.com/  You can also read about it in 
High Country News 
<http://blog.hcn.org/goat/2006/10/25/fossil-fuel-filmfest-movie-and-satellite-pix-expose-the-coalbed-methane-rush/>. 


-- 
Wes Rolley		 
17211 Quail Court	
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408)778-3024

"Happiness is to be fully engaged in the activity that you believe in and, if you are very good at it, well that's a bonus." -- Henry Moore



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 30 23:02:28 2006
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:02:28 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items for Thursday
Message-ID: <4546F504.4060607@sbcglobal.net>

Send your agenda topics for Thursday night's meeting to me by Wednesday 
night
so that I can have copies of the agenda ready to distribute at the meeting.

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 31 09:59:20 2006
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:59:20 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items
Message-ID: <45478EF8.4020801@sbcglobal.net>

Are there any more suggestions or requests for agenda items for Thursday?

Gerry is too busy, so please send the items to me.
I will be preparing the agenda handouts this time.

Jim Doyle



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 31 11:18:11 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:18:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] LA Greens launch Petra Kelly Scholarships
Message-ID: <20061031191811.73692.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com>

This is very innovative!  Maybe we could work our way up to something
similar at some point.

A Million Votes for Peace!

Drew

Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:07:18 -0800
From: Lisa Taylor <lisa at losangelesgreens.org>
Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] LA Greens launch Petra Kelly Scholarships
To: gpca-mediawg at marla.cagreens.org
Message-ID:
	<2D16AD0F-DEF0-4124-B585-A977D3B517AF at losangelesgreens.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks to Erin Schmidt for her great work promoting and coordinating  
these scholarships!

The Los Angeles (City) Greens launched the Green Party Petra Kelly  
Scholarship thanks to a generous donation from one of our members.   
Honoring the inspirational German Green Party cofounder Petra Kelly,  
international peace and environmental leader, and cultivating a new  
generation of young activists, the scholarship awards $500 each to  
two students graduating from the Los Angeles Unified School District,  
to offset college expenses for the coming year. The Los Angeles  
Greens chose to highlight our gender balance key value by selecting  
one male and one female winner.

The scholarship's inaugural winners were Rumeisha Bowyer and Carlos  
Hernandez. Bowyer graduated from the Los Angeles Center for Enriched  
Studies and is currently attending Cal Poly Pomona. An avid  
basketball player, she served as a coach and mentor to younger  
players, as well as breaking the gender barrier in her community's  
basketball league.

  At King/Drew Magnet High School, Carlos Hernandez sought to allay  
the racial and cultural conflict in his community by serving as  
Director of Assemblies and peer mediator. He hopes to continue  
building dialogue among Los Angeles' many diverse groups while  
attending the University of Southern California. Both Hernandez and  
Bowyer attended LA Greens' events over the summer, sharing their  
stories with local Greens while learning more about the Greens and  
what we stand for.

In addition to providing these outstanding students with extra funds  
to help with the costs of tuition, computers, and books, the Petra  
Kelly Scholarship allows the Los Angeles Greens to share with the  
young people of Los Angeles the Ten Key Values. The group plans to  
throw an annual party to continue  funding  the scholarship each  
year. The late Petra Kelly stated, "Greens are neither left nor  
right--we are in front" -- by helping the next generation of leaders  
attain their goals, the LA Greens are living up to her words.

http://losangelesgreens.org/
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Oct 31 11:25:40 2006
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:25:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green stats: Useful & essential talking points
	for Greens & Green candidates
Message-ID: <20061031192540.21543.qmail@web52201.mail.yahoo.com>

[usgp-media] Green stats: Useful & essential talking points for Green
candidates
Date:	Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:34:17 -0800 (PST)

Dear (Green Voter &/or) Green Candidate,

For the final flurry of media interviews, we have
put together some statistics about your fellow
Green candidates nationwide. Use these to help
reporters understand how your Green campaign is
part of a national political movement.

Talking points on Green Party stats for
candidates...

1) Mention www.gp.org several times during
interviews

2) Green Party of the United States candidates
provide the only nationwide peace slate available
on November 7th.

3) Nationwide 330 Green Party candidates are
running in the November 7 election. Green
candidates have already won 24 out of 62 races
held so far in 2006 for a win rate of 39%.

4) On Nov. 7th : 20 Green candidates are running
for governor, 59 Green candidates are running for
Congress, 44 Green candidates are running for
state legislatures. Database of 2006 Green Party
candidates
http://www.greens.org/elections

5) There are 44 state Green Parties and DC
affiliated with the Green Party of the United
States. 31 of those states have ballot access. 
Affiliated States list at
http://www.gp.org/statelist.shtml

6) Currently 230 elected Green Party officials
serve across the country.

7) The national office of The Green Party of the
United States is in DC.
http://www.gp.org
1700 Connecticut Avenue NW, Suite 404
Washington, DC 20009.
202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN
Fax 202-319-7193


(Compiled by the national Green Party office and
the Media Committee, edited by Nancy Allen. 
Please forward widely among all Green candidates
and campaign organizers, and post on Green
lists.)
________________

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue Oct 31 11:39:23 2006
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:39:23 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  agenda items
Message-ID: <4547A66B.6020509@freeshell.org>

Jim,

Thanks for the list in the mail.

Add these Agenda Items:

-+- Biodiesel Talk
-+- "A Land Out of Time" and Wes Rolley
-+- Continue Hunt for Better Meeting Place

Fred



Are there any more suggestions or requests for agenda items for Thursday?

Gerry is too busy, so please send the items to me.
I will be preparing the agenda handouts this time.

Jim Doyle

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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Oct 31 16:21:37 2006
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:21:37 -0500
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My DailyKos Diary - DeLear v Berman
In-Reply-To: <8C8CB628AEBCC0F-E20-2D7E@FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20061031122741.03e7c8f0@mail.ucla.edu>
	<8C8CB628AEBCC0F-E20-2D7E@FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8C8CB62D45D2011-E20-2D94@FWM-D31.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends, 
  
 I have a registered I.D. over on The Daily Kos, and so, what what it's worth, I threw in my two cents worth about Byron DeLear verses Howard Berman in a diary over there. 
 
 The Title is: 
 
 "CA-28: Byron DeLear versus Howard Berman - What is My Duty?"
 
 and here is the Link: 
 
 http://www.dailykos.com/stroyonly/2006/10/31/185258/33
 
 I tried to stand the "wasted vote" argument on its head by pointing out that for antiwar voters like me in California, running out and voting for some Democratic Party hack who is likely to be reelected with 70% or 80% of the vote is truly a wasted vote. 
 
 
 Alex Walker
 
 
      
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From jims at greens.org  Tue Oct 31 19:34:49 2006
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:34:49 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items for Thursday
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FYI... I'll be out of town Thursday and so will miss the meeting.

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Jim 



Jim Doyle wrote:
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> Send your agenda topics for Thursday night's meeting to me by Wednesday
> night
> so that I can have copies of the agenda ready to distribute at the meeting.
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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Oct 31 20:01:25 2006
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:01:25 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA-MediaComm] LA Greens launch Petra
	Kelly Scholarships]
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This is a great idea that could be replicated elsewhere.

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