From WB4D23 at aol.com Sat Dec 1 19:28:40 2007 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:28:40 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items for December meeting/2 more Message-ID: After talking with Tian at the Holiday Peace Fair and a registered Green who commented that she hadn't received mail from the GPSCC for a long time: Additional agenda item: Question of a two sided mailer re the February 5th Election (presidential candidates and propositions) Additional agenda item 2: Issue of getting mega voter database update -- or at least GPSCC voters update to help partisan office and county council candidates collect signatures for their petitions. Warner **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Sat Dec 1 23:42:55 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:42:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cindy Sheehan calls Peace Summit in SF Jan 18-20th and letter from her Message-ID: <1097.38.99.84.36.1196581375.squirrel@greens.org> http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/11/come-together-right-now/ COME TOGETHER, RIGHT NOW! Cindy Sheehan It is absolutely flabbergasting to me that our world will soon be commemorating the 5th year since George Bush announced that the US had commenced ?Sock and Awe? against Iraq. Millions of people marched against the impending invasion all over the world on February 15th, 2003 in one of the most touching and amazing show of solidarity against global aggression ever seen. Since then, the pro-peace/anti-war demonstrations have been mostly disjointed with not so much solidarity. I left the peace movement in May of this year partially out of frustration over this lack of unity. At the time I was in despair over the fact that our movement had been unable to stop anything because of the egos and the infighting. Since then, the usurpation of our liberties and the killing of our children and the Iraqi people has just grown worse. The movement was unable to stop a funding bill or be united in demanding accountability for the war criminals that have been instrumental in destroying three countries, ours included. Now after nearly 5 years of the illegal occupation of Iraq and over 5 years of the immoral occupation of Afghanistan, we all know, even those who watch the propaganda news networks and are in denial, that this is not only gone horribly wrong from day one, but is a sham based on deceit. Not only has our foreign policy suffered profoundly under BushCo and Congress Inc, but the foreign war expenditures without a commensurate raise in revenue has driven our country deeply into a quagmire of debt. Out trade deficit is the largest that it has ever been and 54,000 homes went into foreclosure in October. Gas is hovering a gallon mark in the vicinity of San Francisco and is only going to go up. The degradation of our environment is becoming catastrophic while closeted, deviate Republican lawmakers are worried about people of the same sex having intimate relations and Democrats are too busy trying to act like Republicans while pretending to be Democrats. It is up to us---We the People. Our country is rapidly slipping into a corporate-militaristic fascism and the peace/anti-war movement is worried about personalities and who gets a bigger piece of the pie---and I am not sure what kind of pie it is. The only thing I know about this work is that it is very difficult and requires a lot of sacrifice and commitment without resulting in much monetary reward. The rewards of true and lasting peace with an overthrow of the pigs of war who think they are globally in charge is our reward and seeing a better world for all the worlds? children and grandchildren is what we should be striving for. This is why I am calling for The Dave Cline/MLK,Jr. Memorial Peace Summit in January (18-20) to bring all of the various groups together so we can strategize and brainstorm more effective ways of challenging war and injustices. We not only need to come together in a Year Five Committee to come up with effective strategies to mourn the coming Sixth Year of a mistake that should have never happened with the loss of life counted past one-million, but we need to check egos at the door and bring a healthy longing for the unity that can finally bring the peace that will bring health and prosperity to our country and the world. Please contact The Camp Casey Peace Institute for more info about the Summit. ____ Subject: [riccp] REPORT of Conference call with Cindy Sheehan and letter from her ----- Original Message ----- From: Jamilla El-Shafei Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:42 AM Subject: [NEU-Regional] REPORT of Conference call with Cindy Sheehan and letter from her Greetings friends, I have attached two documents: a report from my conference call with Cindy Sheehan today and a letter that Cindy is sending out to organizations and activists regarding the DAVE CLINE MEMORIAL/MLK Jr. PEACE SUMMIT. Please share the report and letter with your organizations and comrades as soon as possible. Cindy has asked me to co-organize the Summit with David Rubinson from San Francisco. I am grateful for the opportunity to join with you in building a unified broad-based grassroots effort to stop the war and occupation. In August, I had hoped that the Kennebunkport "Weekend of Solidarity" would be the beginning of reconciliation within the movement. I had stickers printed up with the slogan "UNITE FOR A CHANGE" and volunteers slapped them on protesters. Thanks to Cindy, my vision for creating another opportunity to come together for the sake of peace within our movement, and in the world will become a reality. I am also very happy to find a good use for the left- over stickers! How many times have we complained about the fractures within the peace/anti-war movement and felt almost despair at the resulting low turnout of protesters at the mass mobilizations? If something is fractured, it is weak and eventually will break. We should not allow that to happen to our movement. Although there are outside forces which would love to facilitate our demise.. The Peace Summit will provide us with an opportunity to repair the fissures. Even if you cannot physically get to San Francisco you can be involved as we will have LIVE BLOGGING during the mass meeting. We hope that your organization will consider sending a leader or delegate to San Francisco to participate in what will be an historic event. The web site will be up soon with more information. We will also have a google group for volunteers. In the meantime, please contact me with your ideas or questions. When you email me please put the words "peace summit"in the subject line: jamillaelshafei at yahoo.com Peace now, Jamilla El-Shafei ------ End of Forwarded Message PEACE SUMMIT CALL REPORT DAVE CLINE MEMORIAL PEACE SUMMIT CONFERENCE CALL initiated by Cindy Sheehan Thursday, November 29, 2007 Participants include: Cindy Sheehan, DeDe Miller, Tiffany Burns, Jamilla El-Shafei and David Rubinson Cindy Sheehan is convening the DAVE CLINE MEMORIAL PEACE SUMMIT in San Francisco on January 18 and 19th and 20th. Martin Luther King Jr.?s birthday weekend was chosen by Cindy because he exemplified a uniter, a peace maker and an advocate for non-violent constructive action. The goal of the summit is to bring together peace and justice leaders and delegates from all across the country so that we can begin to mend divisions and come together in solidarity to end the war and occupation in Iraq . The agenda will include analyzing our strengths and weaknesses and our goals. We will be creating a unified strategy and an action plan which will include effective tactics that will put real pressure on our politicians. We will work on a plan for a broad-based, grassroots, unified national mobilization in March to mark the 5th anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. The idea of bi-coastal demonstrations in San Francisco and Washington DC will be explored before the peace summit. We discussed a very rough schedule Friday . CHECK EGOS AT THE DOOR . Workshops . Evening: community dinner, speakers and free time in San Francisco : Saturday . YEAR FIVE COMMITTEE with emphasis on Achieving unity and peace within our own peace community (facilitator to be announced ). This will be a mass gathering. LIVE BLOGGING for those who cannot attend in person. . Break-out into small groups or committees. March Mobilization working groups meet . Evening?community dinner, entertainment socializing. Sunday . Committees meet . Closing Monday For those who are interested in staying over for Martin Luther King?s birthday San Francisco?s African American community has amazing events (TBA). Cindy Sheehan and DeDe Miller appointed Jamilla El-Shafei and David Rubinson as event organizers. Jamilla and David will need your help!!! Time is of the essence and we must move very quickly! ** If people are interested in volunteering to help make this event possible We will need help with: a web site, out-reach, logistics in San Francisco, Creation of a google group for volunteers. Program workshop and speakers, entertainment, housing and coordinating Catering at the event site. To assist Jamilla and David please email Jamilla and put in the subject line: Peace Conference. jamillaelshafei at yahoo.com (in the near future I will have A new email address to be used just for this event) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: COME TOGETHER.doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 27648 bytes Desc: not available URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Sun Dec 2 17:46:10 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:46:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] report on support for presidential candidates & Dr. Jared Ball press release Message-ID: <2362.38.99.84.36.1196646370.squirrel@greens.org> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:49:39 -0500 From: Anita Rios Subject: [usgp-dx] report on support for the presidential candidates. Dear Greens, Yesterday I submitted a total of 74 names of greens who supported the entire list of presidential candidates who appeared on the joint letter of support: Kent Mesplay(I spelled it right on the final letter and Kent was very good natured about it) Jared Ball, Kat Swift, Elaine Brown, and Jesse Johnson. I submitted an additional 41 supporters for Jared Ball to also put him over the top. This was not enough names for the candidates to reach the required 100 supporters but most of the candidates were also collecting or had already collected letters of support in addition to those which I submitted. I received word from Kent Mesplay that he reached the required number of supporters and suspect that other candidates also met the goal. My thanks to all of you who came together in what I consider a very Green approach to cooperative politics. Perhaps we can bring home the notion that succeeding in politics done not mean keeping opponents away from the table but rather sitting down together to solve the problems that none of us can solve alone. As far as I am concerned the only real opponents are those from outside the Green Party. Again my thanks on behalf of the Jared Ball campaign. This week Jared and his wife Nelisbeth Sanchez welcomed their second daughter to their family! Anita Rios Senior Campaign Manager for the Jared Ball for president campaign. 419-243-8772 _____ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:29:33 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McLarty DC native hiphop scholar Jared Ball seeks Green Party pres. nomination Distributed by the DC Statehood Green Party http://www.dcstatehoodgreen.org For immediate release DC Native Seeking to Remix Green Party in Run for Nomination DC HIPHOP SCHOLAR AND RADIO HOST SEES RUN FOR PRESIDENT AS WAY TO MOBILIZE HIPHOP COMMUNITY AND EXPAND REACH OF GREEN PARTY TO GRASSROOTS COMMUNITIES CONTACT: Malik Russell, 202.271.0742 Washington, DC, November 30, 2007: Prior to becoming the second African American male to graduate with a PhD in journalism from the University of Maryland at College Park, Jared Ball determined that his thesis would focus on what he coined "the emancipatory mixtape." Ball, saw how the popularity of hip hop mixtapes distributed through an underground economy could be utilized to mobilize African American youth towards activism. Today, in running for the Green Party nomination, he sees his campaign to expand their reach of the Greens, relative to the major political parties functioning similar to the mixtape relative to products from the major music labels. "Our campaign, just like the mixtape, is designed to reach the grassroots without corporate backing," said Dr. Ball, professor of communications at Morgan State University in Baltimore, Maryland. "We hope to prove that a message that addresses the issues of the poor, disenfranchised without comprising to corporate interests still resonates with people. It's not just about ending the war in Iraq, it's about a political will to apply the same type of energy and resources to the problems of violence, incarceration, unemployment and despair faced by young people in America and around the world," added Ball. The current host of the Jazz & Justice show on Pacifica Radio's Washington DC station WPFW 89.3 FM , he also serves as editor-at-large for the Words, Beats and life Global Journal of Hip-Hop Culture. Ball is joined in his revolutionary campaign by DC native and independent hiphop recording artist Head-Roc <. According to Head-Roc, who recently released his new album "Negrophobia," this campaign is the proper evolution of the hiphop community, particularly those who grew up nodding their heads to groups like Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Gangstarr and other politically conscious hiphop artists. "There is still a lot of real hiphop out there, unfortunately we don't get to hear anything but the corporate controlled neo-materialistic stuff on the radio," said Head-Roc. "Our campaign gives both young and older progressive people, credible visual references to hip-hop legends that they automatically can get with and are nostalgic for," he added. Ball's campaign has earned enough signatures to be on the ballot in Illinois and is mobilizing support for an upcoming tour of California in December. For many, this accomplishment done on a shoestring budget with no corporate or big donor help is a victory in itself. Yet others believe it's even more than that and see it as a watershed moment where the Hiphop Generation is moving beyond societal-imposed limitations and into realms that will redefine political campaigns as we know them. They've generated enough grassroots momentum and belief in their potential for Anita Rios, the former co-chair of the National Green Party, to join them as the senior-campaign manager. "Jared and Heady provide a meaningful twist to political campaigning and we hope that this will grow and change the way that politics is done so as to change who does politics," remarked Rios. For Ball, he recently became a father for the second time this week, the run is more about planting seeds for the younger generation concerning what is possible and how we have a right to determine who speaks for us and those choices extend far beyond who the major parties and corporations say we should vote for. "The people in this country have a right to have real choices, not a choice between the lesser of two evils or choices dictated to them by the wealthy. That's what I bring to the table, the awareness that choice can exist," said Ball. "This not only applies to the two main political parties, but also to independent parties such as the Green Party. Our eventual goal is to take the Green party from just green to red, black, brown and green." ### For interviews contact: Malik Russell (202) 271-0742 or by email press at jaredball.com Campaign web site: http://www.jaredball.com/ [Distribution of this release or any other release by the DC Statehood Green Party does not imply endorsement of any candidate for the presidential nomination.] From jims at greens.org Sun Dec 2 18:49:23 2007 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:49:23 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim's Comments RE: Bylaw proposal for Regional Representatives Election In-Reply-To: <3410.67.116.237.93.1196365499.squirrel@greens.org> References: <3410.67.116.237.93.1196365499.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <47536EB3.6050000@greens.org> Comments inline. Jim Drew Johnson wrote: > Here's another try on harmonizing our bylaw's style and Warner and > Jonathan Lundell's proposed alternative election process for Regional > Representatives. Please send your comments. > > The only significant question I have is about the the stipulation in 9.5 > that if the counties come to different decisions we would retake the > decision until agreement is reached. I guess my question is whether we > would want to delegate to the County Councils the ability to sort it out > since otherwise it could potentially stretch out the process for some > months given the requirement to have additional RR Election Meetings until > agreement is reached. > > > Green is Life! > > Drew Johnson > GP of Santa Clara Co Councilor > > > ______ > > ARTICLE 9 ELECTION OF REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVES (RR), > ALTERNATES > > 9.0 Definitions in GPCA bylaws > Regional Representation on the GPCA Coordinating > Committee is defined by the GPCA bylaws, sections 6, 7 > and elsewhere. This bylaws article constitutes an > alternative election process as provided for in the GPCA > bylaws section 7-1.5. That should be "...Articles 6, 7 and elsewhere." > > 9.1 RR Election Meeting > The terms ?RR Candidate Presentation Meeting' > and ?RR Election Meeting? in these bylaws shall be > qualified only if the following requirements are met: I don't understand this concept of qualifying terms used in the bylaws. The conditions of this qualification sound like it's qualifying the election itself, which would make sense. If that's the case, then... "RR election meetings are considered valid if they meet the following conditions:" > 1) the election is authorized and called by the > County Council > 2) the meeting is open to all county party Members > and all Members present can vote in the election, > 3) the election has been publicly announced on > county party email lists at least 15 days in advance of > the election meeting > and > 4) where the RR Election is a preannounced agenda > item for the meeting. > > 9.2 Declaring Candidacy > Candidates shall declare their candidacy on > the email lists of the counties of the region > prior to the RR Candidate Presentation Meetings at > which a vacancy or replacement is considered. Note also > that the state bylaws stipulate that N.O.C. (?No Other > Candidate?, AKA "None of the Above") shall be considered > an acceptable candidate. I have no problem adding NOC or NOTA. But the election method isn't specified in this article. This clumsy sentence can be removed if my suggestions for 9.3 & 9.4 are accepted. > > 9.3 RR Candidate Presentation Meeting > The RR Candidate Presentation Meeting agenda item > will include time for the candidates to present > themselves in person to describe their qualifications, > goals, and to answer questions. > > 9.4 RR Election Meeting > Election of a representative will be a decision > item at a qualified RR Election Meeting that follows > the RR Candidate Presentation Meeting. If 9.3 and 9.4 are requiring two special meetings for this election, I have a strong concern. Special meeting are an imposition, and turnout is usually low. I see no reason why this can't be a part of our regular meeting. Suggestion: 9.3 Presentation and Election Meetings The RR election process may be conducted as part of the regular monthly meetings of the GPSCC. Alternately, a special meeting may be called if so decided by the county council. Candidates shall present themselves to the electorate at a valid meeting. This presentation shall be at a meeting that precedes the meeting where the voting occurs. 9.4 Election Process This election process assumes this region is allocated one representative. This section shall be amended if the allocation is increased. The Regional Representative and Alternate Representative shall be chosen by separate votes. The Regional Representative shall be chosen first. In an election where there is only one declared candidate, the decision shall be made in accordance with Article 5 of these bylaws. Regional Representative elections shall be deemed a business decision. If more than one candidate has declared their candidacy, the election shall be conducted using Instant Runoff Voting, with section 7-1.9 of the GPCA bylaws as guidance. > > 9.5 Regional Coordination > A candidate must be approved by all of the > county parties of the region. If different candidates > are approved by the county parties the decision(s) > shall be retaken by the county parties until agreement > on candidates between the county parties is reached. > > 9.6 Representational Balance in the Region > It shall be an objective to have the Regional > Representative and the first Alternate Regional > representative be from different counties > wherever possible. > > 9.7 Replacement or Recall > A Regional Representative or an Alternate > Regional Representative may be replaced or recalled > using the same process for election described here. > > 9.8 Effective Date > This amendment, Article 9 of the by-laws shall > take effect on its date of passage in substatially > the same form by all county parties in the region. > Upon adoption, the County Council from each county > party shall separately and independently > notify the GPCA of their bylaws amendments adding > this alternative election process to the default > procedures provided by the state Green Party Bylaws. The first sentence needs to be clearer: This amendment, Article 9 of the bylaws, shall take effect after formal approval by the GPSCC, and after bylaws of substatially the same form have been adopted by all counties in the region. > > 9.9 Expiration of Article 9 > This article 9 detailing the selection of > regional representatives to the GPCA Coordinating > Committee shall expire if a county party in the region > rescinds it, or if the region is redefined and a new > county parties added to the region decides not to > adopt this bylaw. > From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Dec 2 20:49:19 2007 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us) Date: 3 Dec 2007 04:49:19 -0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] no takers for orphan PC Message-ID: <20071203044919.11473.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> Charlotte gave me her old PC. Green Party donated it for our raffle prize at the Holiday Peace Fair but nobody took it. Free to a good home. http://www.greens.org/~cls/dell.pdf Cameron From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 2 21:06:36 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:06:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] call for agenda items for Thursday's meeting Message-ID: <47538EDC.5010703@sbcglobal.net> Please submit your Agenda items for Thursday December 6-th. Thus far we have Treasurer's report: balance, FPPC, calendar year 2008 budget Barec: talking points, call lists Fundraising: tools, methods, goals Recruitment: tools, methods, goals By-laws amendment re regional representative Delegates and alternates for GPUS presidential nominating convention GPCA County Polling on ballot measures Forwarding GPCA County Contacts messages Status of Jared Ball visit plans Use of web site Two sided mailer re the February 5th Election (presidential candidates and propositions) Getting mega voter database update -- or at least GPSCC voters update to help partisan office and county council candidates collect signatures for their petitions. Jim Doyle From wrolley at charter.net Mon Dec 3 09:20:01 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:20:01 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Flyers for December 16th] Message-ID: <47543AC1.3030003@charter.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Flyers for December 16th Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:11:59 -0800 From: Craig Peterson To: Drew Johnson , Wes Rolley , Hello my friends, Below is the announcement for Contra Costa's Progressive Potluck / Dr. Jared Ball events. Included are links for the flyers being used. If you let me know what your event(s) will be I can provide you with flyers or help with your getting the word out. Thanks for your good work Craig ******************************************* Hello my friends, Please plan on attending the Green Party of Contra Costa's annual Progressive Potluck December 16th from 4:00 to 8:00 PM. For the flyer go to http://cagreens.org/diablo/HolidayParty.pdf In addition, there will be a Meet and Greet with Dr. Jared Ball, Green Party candidate for President, on December 16th from 3:00 to 4:00 PM. For the flyer go to http://cagreens.org/diablo/Ball.pdf Please forward this information to all who you feel might be interested. Craig -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From JamBoi at Greens.org Tue Dec 4 21:12:34 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 21:12:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Su 16th Holiday Social/Dr. Jared Ball 4 Prez Message-ID: <1314.38.99.84.36.1196831554.squirrel@greens.org> Details are being worked through but it looks like we'll be holding our What: Green Party of Santa Clara Co 2007 Holiday Social with special guest, Dr. Jared Ball a Green Party candidate for President of the U.S. http://www.jaredball.com/ When: Sunday Dec 16th 5-9 Where: Smoke Tiki Lounge and Barbeque, Downtown San Jose, http://www.smoketiki.com/ 152 Post Street, San Jose, Ca. 95113, (408) 292-4266 More to follow in the coming days. We want to have a big party so please start inviting your friends. Invite one and all! Last year's Holiday party was fun and we probably had in intimate 20 or so, but this time we want a big to do with 50 to 100 or more. The San Mateo Greens are invited also so this will be a regional event. Green is Connection! Drew Johnson Green Party of Santa Clara County Councilor From wrolley at charter.net Tue Dec 4 22:24:56 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:24:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Delegates etc] Message-ID: <47564438.4080306@charter.net> Hello. If you are planning to attend the national meeting in Chicago, next year, but are not yet aligned with a candidate please be my delegate. Information can be sent to delegation at mesplay.org or campaign at info.org Again, we need the following: ? Your full name as registered to vote ? Phone number ? Email address ? Mailing Address ? County of Residence ? Gender and your minority, ethnic or diversity group, if any Thanks, Kent P. Mesplay -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From alexcathy at aol.com Wed Dec 5 08:33:35 2007 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:33:35 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Seeking Comments: 'Do Greens Need a People of Color Caucus?' Message-ID: <8CA0573B735A57F-A08-43DB@FWM-D29.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends,? So far I?m surprised and disappointed that I have not received a single negative comment. C'mon people. I wrote this is to provoke a response. Where are the "Identitarian" intellectuals who take this Separatist & Conformity Ideology as axiomatic? Show yourselves! Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens A Debate: Do Greens Need a 'People of Color' Caucus? No - Let's Be The Change We Want to See by Alex Walker "Be the change that you want to see in the world." -- Mohandas Gandhi Let's have an "Urban Policy Caucus" on urban sustainability, the "Drug War," large school systems, immigration, etc. But please, no caucuses based on skin color. That's a throwback to the 1960s when "Leaders" pleaded for entry into segregated "smoke filled rooms" of Democratic Party bosses and the Republican "Party of Lincoln" became the "White Man's Party" of die-hard segregationists. Americans revolted in the name of liberty and sanctioned slavery. The French killed King Louis and crowned Emperor Napoleon. The Russians killed Czar Nicholas in the name of socialism and consolidated his empire under a corporate state. I have great personal respect for Greens organizing this caucus, but I do not want Greens imitating race-obsessed Democrats and Republicans. . . . Today, I'm grieved to report that in all the big cities of California -- Los Angeles, San Jose, San Francisco, and Oakland -- those liberating Black Power slogans of my youth, co-opted by Democratic Party Machines, are used to rationalize all manner of evil by reactionary preachers, nutty professors, playboys, incompetents like Los Angeles Unified School District bureaucrats, and outright gangsters like those promoting a Black-Latino race war and killers from "Your Black Muslim Bakery" who assassinated Oakland Post editor Chauncey Bailey in broad daylight. Here's the group dynamic. First, "differences" between "Us" and "Them" are wildly exaggerated. Next, "difference" worship is declared a revolutionary end in itself. Symbolic projects like naming lousy segregated institutions after Martin Luther King and C?sar Ch?vez; expressing conspicuous outrage over "offensive" words and symbols; and pretending Kwanzaa is a real "tradition" equivalent to Christmas creates an illusion of "action." The inevitable failure of this feckless politics inevitably generates calls for even greater "unity" -- more separatism, conformity, and devotion to "Leaders." The only mainstream criticism comes from the Far Right, which, of course, lends credibility to bad "Leaders." This idiocy let's Clinton boast about his cabinet of Yale corporate lawyers who "look like America." Even Bush is lauded for the "First Black" mass murderer as secretary of state and "First Latino" war criminal as attorney general. Scoundrels like San Francisco's Willie Brown and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa win applause parroting 1960s clich?s even after betraying every decent public and private commitment. . . . Read More and Leave a Comment at: http://www.greencommons.org/node/870 ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. 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URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Wed Dec 5 11:41:09 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:41:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Italian President: 9/11 Was an Inside Job Message-ID: <3284.38.99.84.36.1196883669.squirrel@greens.org> http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/5/124322/766 Italian President: 9/11 Was an Inside Job by kimishka Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 10:32:10 AM PST Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies. http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_novembre_30/osama_berlusconi_cossiga_27f4ccee-9f55-11dc-8807-0003ba99c53b.shtml Cossiga was elected President of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985. Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed - an honest politician - and led the country for seven years until April 1992. Cossiga's tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio - a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60's, 70's and 80's. Gladio's specialty was to carry out what they coined "false flag operations," terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition. Cossiga's revelations contributed to an Italian parliamentary investigation of Gladio in 2000, during which evidence was unearthed that the attacks were being overseen by the U.S. intelligence apparatus. In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security." Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation. "[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan." Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9/11 in 2001, and is quoted in Webster Tarpley's book as stating that: "The mastermind of the attack must have been a "sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and flight security personnel." Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga's assertion that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies is highly unlikely to be mentioned by any establishment media outlets, because like the hundreds of other sober ex-government, military, air force professionals, allied to hundreds more professors and intellectuals - he can't be sidelined as a crackpot conspiracy theorist. From JamBoi at Greens.org Wed Dec 5 11:56:07 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 11:56:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Vets to Hospitals Initiative... Can you help? Message-ID: <1280.38.99.84.36.1196884567.squirrel@greens.org> ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: Vets to Hospitals Initiative... Can you help?] From: "Wes Rolley" Date: Wed, December 5, 2007 08:40 SNIP I was sent the following note from Mary Ellen Salzano, a real activist for veterans medical issues. She works closely with the VA in Palo Alto, especially in arranging support for the families of Iraq / Afghanistan vets with traumatic brain injuries. Is there any way that the health care efforts in this county can help secure a certification program as described below? Should someone send a letter to Eshoo, Lofgren, Honda, et. al.? (I know that McNerney is already very active here.) Is this a local State Program of certification? Wes -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Vets to Hospitals Initiative... Can you help? Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 06:31:48 -0800 (PST) From: Mary Ellen Salzano To: Debbie Gregory , kathleen.collins at mail.house.gov, pat kerr , catherine morris , gary prost This truly is a national concern. Amazing how we can have medics in Iraq and Afghanistan, who probably see and do more than many doctors will ever do in their lifetime, yet they cannot get a job in the medical field.... Mary, I am sending you a copy of a letter to the editor I wrote today. Do you have any input, suggestions, comments? Of course, this is a nationwide problem. -- Do you have a contact for the Governor that I can contact to invite?-- Mark Military Can Help Solve Hospital Crisis We have been experiencing a shortage of medically trained personnel for many years in the US and in San Diego County. Now the predictions are that our San Diego County hospitals will need to treat an additional million patients in the next decade. This will be impossible without creative initiatives. As a member of Congressman Bilbray's Veterans Advisory Committee, I have proposed a possible solution. -- The military has thousands of combat experienced medical personnel, like navy Corpsmen, that have saved the lives of countless people. They certainly have the experience to greatly assist our hospitals. But there is no fast track program in place to help get these men and women certified as they leave the military. It is absurd to make them get in line and take as long for certification as a fresh faced high school graduate. Patriotic Hearts (the 501c3 that sponsors HirePatriots.com) is seeking to hold a conference of our local hospital administrators to address this issue. It can be a win-win for our troops, our residents and hospitals. Mark Baird Carlsbad, CA 92008 760-730-3734 Mary Ellen Salzano, Certified Professional Coach Classes, Coaching, and Companioning with a Spiritual Twist 408 779 6916 or 408 489 0911 cell Proud Parent of Cpl.. Salzano, USMC, OIF 2 and 3 The price of freedom is visible at any VA hospital -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From wrolley at charter.net Wed Dec 5 16:34:54 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:34:54 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Vets to Hospitals Initiative... Can you help? In-Reply-To: <1280.38.99.84.36.1196884567.squirrel@greens.org> References: <1280.38.99.84.36.1196884567.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <475743AE.50609@charter.net> Drew, Thank you for giving me the names of those most involved in the health care effort and posting this to the list. Since then, I did a little more investigation and found out that Ms. Hedy Chang, one time City Council member down here in Morgan Hill, is a Schwarzenegger "public" appointee to the Medical Board of California. In fact, she is vice-chair of the Licensing Division. I have put Mary Ellen in contact with Hedy. That should help. It seems to me that this would be something that is doable if people looked for ways to get it done and didn't look for reasons not to do it. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From JamBoi at Greens.org Thu Dec 6 08:56:58 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 08:56:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sheehan public support of Green candidate for President as first choice Message-ID: <1057.38.99.84.36.1196960218.squirrel@greens.org> >From a new interview with Sheehan about her run for congress and her activism: http://eatthestate.org/12-07/EMailHeartto.htm ETS!: Do you have a favorite candidate for the 2008 presidential election, and if so, why is that person your first choice? CS: I like Cynthia McKinney, who is seeking the Green Party nomination. She has always fought against the establishment (and that is why she is not in Congress now, in fact) and she has fought for legitimate voting and for the people of New Orleans. She introduced Articles of Impeachment on her last day as a Congressperson in 2006. SNIP From fredd at freeshell.org Thu Dec 6 18:24:56 2007 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:24:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] call for agenda items for Thursday's meeting Message-ID: <4758AEF8.1060701@freeshell.org> Please submit your Agenda items for Thursday December 6-th. Thus far we have Treasurer's report: balance, FPPC, calendar year 2008 budget Barec: talking points, call lists Fundraising: tools, methods, goals Recruitment: tools, methods, goals By-laws amendment re regional representative Delegates and alternates for GPUS presidential nominating convention GPCA County Polling on ballot measures Forwarding GPCA County Contacts messages Status of Jared Ball visit plans Use of web site Two sided mailer re the February 5th Election (presidential candidates and propositions) Getting mega voter database update -- or at least GPSCC voters update to help partisan office and county council candidates collect signatures for their petitions. Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From JamBoi at Greens.org Thu Dec 6 20:15:59 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:15:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney announces entry into Presidential race in WI Message-ID: <49260.68.183.64.153.1197000959.squirrel@greens.org> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:31:17 -0800 (PST) From: Scott McLarty Subject: Release: McKinney announces entry into Wisc. Green Party pres. race To: usgp-media at gp-us.org, natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org, dcsgp at yahoogroups.com Wisconsin Green Party http://wisconsingreenparty.org/ For Immediate Release December 5, 2007 CONTACTS: Ron Hardy, Co-chair, Wisconsin Green Party 920-292-8129 Cindy Stimmler, Co-chair, Wisconsin Green Party 715-417-0637 Milwaukee Contact: Ruth Weill, 414-350-2107 Madison Contact: Larry Dooley, 608-260-8696 Cynthia McKinney/Power to the People campaign: media-requests at runcynthiarun.org Rep. Cynthia McKinney to announce entry into WI Green Party presidential caucuses in State Capitol and Milwaukee, Tuesday NEW PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ENTERING WI FIELD Six-term Congresswoman, former Democrat and now Green Party member Cynthia McKinney is coming to Madison and Milwaukee on Tuesday, December 11th, as part of her "Power to the People" tour, promoting her campaign to win the Green Party nomination for President of the United States. Congresswoman McKinney will announce her candidacy and hold a press conference at the Madison State Capitol, room 330 SW at 12:30 PM. She will speak at UW Milwaukee Campus, Bolton, room 150 at 7 PM, and will attend a fundraiser directly after at Espresso Christoph coffee shop, 3116 N. Downer Ave., Milwaukee. Rep. McKinney was the first African-American woman from Georgia elected toCongress, serving six terms in the House. Prior to completing her most recent term, she introduced articles of impeachment against President Bush charging him with manipulating intelligence and lying to justify the war in Iraq, failing to uphold accountability and violating privacy laws with his domestic spying program. The articles also included charges against Vice President Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. ?Like Robert M. LaFollette Sr., Rep. McKinney has abandoned the establishment parties and chosen to run for president as a progressive, independent of the two-party system,? said Ron Hardy, Co-chair of the Wisconsin Green Party. "During World War I, that establishment demonized Fighting Bob La Follette; today, during the Iraq War, Rep. McKinney is their target. We welcome her into the Green Party, to join us in our efforts to bring democracy, nonviolence, and justice to our country.? In addition to McKinney, other Green candidates appearing on the Wisconsin Green Party?s presidential ballot will be: Jared Ball ? college professor from the District of Columbia, Jesse Johnson ? filmmaker and film company owner from West Virginia, Jerry Kann ? child welfare non-profit administrative assistant from New York, Kent Mesplay - air quality inspector from California, Joe Schriner ? journalist and author from Ohio, and Kat Swift - non-profit bookkeeper from Texas. [Distribution of this release by the Wisconsin Green Party does not imply endorsement of any candidate for the presidential nomination.] For more information: Jared Ball ? http://www.voxunion.com/jaredball/ Jesse Johnson ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMxgYnmdHfg Jerry Kann ? http://kannforpresident.net/ Cynthia McKinney ? http://www.runcynthiarun.org/ Kent Mesplay ? http://www.mesplay.org/ Joe Schriner ? http://www.voteforjoe.com/ Kat Swift ? http://www.bexargreens.org/katforprez/ Wisconsin Green Party http://wisconsingreenparty.org/ ~END~ From JamBoi at Greens.org Thu Dec 6 21:13:03 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 21:13:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] delegates to national convention Message-ID: <49288.68.183.64.153.1197004383.squirrel@greens.org> Tian and any others who want to participate please send this to Jim Doyle immediately! FORM TO APPLY FOR CANDIDATE, COUNTY, OR DIVERSITY CAUCUS SLATES: Please complete the information below and send to one of the contacts for a specific candidate and/or to your county party for inclusion on your county's slate. * full name: * phone: * email: * mailing address: * county of residence: * gender (to provide gender balance): * racial/ethnic group (to provide diversity, e.g., African American, European American, Asian American, etc.) * other diversity factors (LGBT, Disabled, Senior, etc.): ********************************** PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE CAMPAIGN CONTACTS: (Thanks to Sanda Everette for the descriptive info. below, on the candidates): JARED BALL (DC) http://www.jaredball.com/ jbforpresident at gmail.com College Professor and freelance journalist from the District of Columbia. ELAINE BROWN (GA) http://www.elainebrown.org/ sistaelaine at gmail.com Former Black Panther Party leader, noted author, community and prison justice activist JESSE JOHNSON (WV) jesse at mtparty.org Filmmaker, and 2006 Senate candidate & 2004 gubernatorial candidate for the Mountain Party from West Virginia. CYNTHIA MCKINNEY (CA) California Contacts: Sanda Everette: sanda at greensolutions.org John Morton: jlm108 at yahoo.com http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/ Former U.S. Congressmember from Georgia KENT MESPLAY (CA) http://www.mesplay.org/ info at mesplay.org Biomedical engineer who sought Green presidential nomination in 2004 from California. RALPH NADER (CT) CA Contact: Tinker Dominguez at tink at cruzio.com . http://www.draftnader.org/ Consumer advocate; 1996 and 2000 Green presidential nominee; 2004 independent presidential candidate. KAT SWIFT (TX) http://www.votekat.info/ prezkat at bexagreens.org Texas state party Co-Chair, progressive activist and newspaper credit manager _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Dec 6 23:08:38 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:08:38 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney announces entry into Presidential racein WI In-Reply-To: <49260.68.183.64.153.1197000959.squirrel@greens.org> References: <49260.68.183.64.153.1197000959.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <4758F176.1020203@aceweb.com> Her website now looks like a Presidential Candidate website to! -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Thanksgiving pictures and commentary. From JamBoi at Greens.org Fri Dec 7 02:57:01 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 02:57:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] open letter to members from the Jared Ball campaign Message-ID: <2232.38.99.84.36.1197025021.squirrel@greens.org> Fw: an open letter to greens from the Jared Ball Campaign "Anita Rios" rhannon at toast.net Thu Dec 6 14:45:00 EST 2007 Please forward widely to all Green Party state and local lists. An open letter to all Green Party members from the Jared Ball campaign. Dear Fellow Greens, We embarked on this campaign which put forward Jared Ball, an African American college professor who was born in Washington D.C. and is a Desert Storm veteran, for the Green Party's Presidential nomination as an organizing effort to bring in new constituencies to the Green Party. It is our goal to create through the Green Party a political movement that extends across race and class to provide a political voice for the diverse ?True American Majority.? We welcome all other Green Presidential candidates to partner with us in our efforts to grow the Green Party. The 2008 campaign season is our opportunity to show this country the many faces of the Green Party and the vibrant array of ideas that we bring to the table of determining Americas role in solving the problems of: mass incarceration, world hunger, global warming, quality accessible health care and education, and the creation of just equitable humane economic systems. As candidates working together we will raise the profile of our campaigns and assure that we have candidates on the ballot in all 51 states. We invite other Green Party candidates for president to join us in planning joint events with local candidates and activists who are working on anti-war or social justice issues. Together we will create a groundswell of interest in the Green Party and will show the mainstream candidates for the do nothing corporate shills that they are. In addition we call out to all Greens asking you to come on board to help your Green Party Presidential candidates get out the word to all Green Party members and beyond. We and all the presidential campaigns need your help to assure that Greens and potential new Greens are well informed about their choices before deciding which candidate to support. We offer this campaign as an outreach tool, in particular as an outreach tool to Black and Latino communities and need the help of volunteers in each state to make this effort a success. Together we can grow the Green Party and assure that we come out of the 2008 election cycle stronger and better organized than we go into it. Jared Ball, with DC-based artist and co-campaign manager Head-Roc and their ?Capitol Resistance? campaign tour speaking truth to power while upsetting the set up is asking for your support and assistance in bringing us to your area. Schedules are tight and resources limited so lets get creative and pool our efforts to do regional events. If you would like to plan a Jared Ball ?Capitol Resistance? event in your area please contact contact us. Sincerely, Head-Roc, Co-campaign Manager/Cultural Outreach Coordinator headroc at jaredball.com Anita Rios, Senior Campaign Manager rhannon at toast.net 419-243-8772 To volunteer contact our volunteer coordinator Nora Gaines at: nora at jaredball.com Check out our website at: http://www.jaredball.com, To make a donation: http://www.jaredball.com/donate Stock up on some fly gear at http://www.cafepress.com/jaredball From JamBoi at Greens.org Fri Dec 7 03:06:00 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 03:06:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green running for 15th Congressional seat! Peter Myers Message-ID: <2243.38.99.84.36.1197025560.squirrel@greens.org> A real peace candidate who was clear from the beginning that invading foreign countries was wrong. Peter Myers. Peter served in the Peace Corps in Moldova teaching English that past couple of years. Peter will be introducing himself and setting up his campaign shortly so all y'all who want to help run a Peace campaign for the 15th district please speak up and we'll get you plugged in. Building a Peace Society! Drew Johnson From JamBoi at Greens.org Fri Dec 7 09:37:20 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:37:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Repub-backed Electoral vote measure fails to make June ballot Message-ID: <3341.38.99.84.36.1197049040.squirrel@greens.org> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-electoral7dec07,0,5337231.story?coll=la-home-center Electoral vote measure fails to make June ballot The Republican-backed initiative in California, which could have favored the GOP presidential nominee, did not garner enough financial support. By Dan Morain, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer December 7, 2007 A proposed initiative that drew national attention for its potential to affect next year's presidential election will not appear on the June ballot, organizers said Thursday. Republican backers of the measure, which could have tilted the presidential contest toward the GOP nominee by changing how California awards electoral votes, conceded that they were unable to raise sufficient funds. Sacramento consultant Dave Gilliard, the campaign manager, said that even if a financial angel were to shower the campaign with $1 million, there was not enough time to qualify the measure for June. SNIP From JamBoi at Greens.org Fri Dec 7 09:42:28 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:42:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Rebuttals to Reasons NOT to Impeach Message-ID: <3382.38.99.84.36.1197049348.squirrel@greens.org> http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/opedne_rob_kall_071207_rebuttals_to_reasons.htm Rebuttals to Reasons NOT to Impeach by Rob Kall At a recent Impeachment forum, organized by the Bucks County Coalition for Peace, former congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman and journalist and author David Lindorff itemized the many reasons TO impeach Bush and Cheney. Even people who believe Bush and Cheney lied or intentionally misled the congress about WMDs and reasons to go to war, even though people people believe that Bush and Cheney have treasonously violated laws and betrayed the constitution, some don?t think there should be impeachment proceedings. I?ve listed, below, some of the common objections, with rebuttals to them. First, let?s keep in mind that Richard Nixon never ended up getting tried by the senate. A group of Republican senators took ?the walk? to the white house and told Nixon he had to go, that if he didn?t, they were ready to remove him. Of course, that was after Agnew had been pushed to resign, with hearings that disclosed enough to show how dirty he was. That?s the likely scenario with Bush. Cheney will be investigated and resign. The GOP leaders will cut their losses at some point, when supporting Dubya no longer seems at all viable, when the GOP brand will be close to going down the toilet, and they?ll take ?the walk? to visit George to tell him he has to quit or they will side with the Dems and remove him. I don?t expect impeachment to ever reach the senate. But for these things to happen, Nancy Pelosi has to put impeachment back on the table and let John Conyers, head of the house judiciary committee, do the job he?s ready to do?start impeachment investigations of Cheney and Bush. It worked to get rid of Gonzales. It will work for Cheney, then Bush too. Here are some common arguments against impeachment, with their rebuttals. Frankly, if the Dems fail to impeach, and they fail to end the war, and they let Bush?s disastrous economic policies and his massive war spending continue, the USA will be in even worst trouble than the horrific mortgage/ housing and dollar crash and credit disaster we are already in. 1- That will give us Cheney as president. Well, of course, we have to impeach Cheney first, but we can and should be INVESTIGATING both. Once Cheney investigations start, the VP will get a note from the Doctor. He?ll try to pull the plug on hearings by resigning with his heart problems as the explanation. 2-Not enough time. Cheney and Bush will be out of office in 14 months. Why bother? Lots of reasons. They committed crimes. Investigations will turn up more ugly dirt. Investigations will turn up new, fresh witnesses who will roll over and testify against Cheney and Bush. It?s not about timely convenience. It?s about the congress obeying their oath to uphold and defend the constitution?which Bush and Cheney have treasonously violated. 3- . Bush and Cheney have broken no laws Bush and his defenders argue that as Commander-in-Chief, Bush and his designate Cheney have not violated any laws. The counter argument: The violation of Geneva Convention principles would be a breaking of U. S. law since the United States has signed "a treaty" banning torture and other mistreatment of detainees. International Treaties become U. S. Law and may not be negated by the President. Justice Bryer 9 Oct 2007. And just because Bush issues a signing statement?actually, over 1000?doesn?t mean he is right, that he doesn?t have to follow the laws the congress has passed. 4- The Dems will be accused of wasting time. So what. They're already being accused of that. It's a lame, weak, unacceptable argument. Lynn Woolsey says ?impeachment would suck air out of the room and get nothing accomplished? Sorry, it may be inconvenient, may even not fit with plans to keep the Republicans hanging out to dry, dangling with their corruption, in the wind, until November, but the Dem leaders in a congress have that annoying duty to uphold the constitution. 5- There's no clear proof That's what hearings are for. 6. Impeachment will further divide this country. (That's Barack Obama's stance.) The country is already divided. It can?t get any further divided. Impeachment will unite all the people who want to protect the constitution and democracy. 7. Not enough people support impeachment It?s not a popularity contest. It?s the job of the congress, when faced with crimes and even questions, to investigate, investigate. Recent polls have reported that more than half the respondents want impeachment hearings for Cheney. Those numbers will climb when testimony begins, just like it did for Gonzales. 8. You can hold Bush and Cheney accountable without impeaching them. (Pelosi's stance) Cheney and Bush, still free, still in control can still do further horrific damage to America. And crimes should be punished as the law prescribes., not ignored. If Clinton had prosecuted George Herbert Walker Bush for his involvement in illegal actions, his son would never have appeared on the picture, as a gubernatorial, let alone presidential candidate. He?d be the failure son of a corrupt politician. 9. Pelosi can?t pursue impeachment because she?d become president and it would look like she?s shooting for the job. No she won?t . The Republicans will work it out with the Democrats. Bush will appoint a VP replacement who will become president?someone the Dems can tolerate.. The Dems will not allow anyone who might run for office, so Bush must appoint someone who could bring integrity and bring America together. He might even appoint someone who actually creates something that leaves a positive legacy?a first woman , Latino, African American VP. Possible VP appointees who might pass muster include; James Baker, Dubya?s father, Herbert Walker Bush, or even Colin Powell, Sen. Elizabeth Dole, Condi Rice or Mel Martinez. 10. Impeachment will not succeed in the senate. Investigations can last until November, if necessary, and they will hurt the right wingers still supporting Bush and Cheney. Gradually, more will see the light, like Hagel, until before impeachment ever went forward, enough senators would take ?THE WALK? to the Whitehouse, to tell Bush it was time to go. Rob Kall is executive editor and publisher of OpEdNews.com, President of Futurehealth, Inc, inventor and organizer of several conferences, including StoryCon, the Summit Meeting on the Art, Science and Application of Story and The Winter Brain Meeting on neurofeedback, biofeedback, Optimal Functioning and Positive Psychology. He is a frequent Speaker on Politics, The art, science and power of story, heroes and the hero's journey, Positive Psychology, Stress, Biofeedback and a wide range of subjects. From wrolley at charter.net Sat Dec 8 08:40:35 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 08:40:35 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. Message-ID: <475AC903.7080507@charter.net> I received my notice from SCC Registrar of Voters yesterday. Ballots will be in the mail starting Jan. 7, 2008. Voting is upon us. Time for procrastination has ended and time for serious thinking has begun. Some general commments: It appears that National "approved candidates " list will end up looking identical to the California list: Ball, Brown, Johnson, McKinney, Mesplay, Swift. Brown's name is not there yet, but should be shortly. Will this be an election where identity politics determines the outcome? I hope that you have all taken the time to read Alex's post at Green Commons. If not, do it now. http://www.greencommons.org/node/870 I mention this because it appears that some of the campaigns are based almost solely on identity politics, for good and bad. Right now, significant international attention is focused on two issues: Iraq / Afghanistan war (the peace issue) and Global Warming (euphemistically called Climate Change). This is especially true with an International Meeting this week in Bali and a seriously flawed energy bill having passed the House and now being considered in the Senate. It is my opinion that any candidate for the Green Party Presidential Nomination must be representing the party on BOTH of these issues. That filter removes some of the candidates from my consideration. It should be a question for Dr. Ball this next week. This is a critical time for the Green Party. This year, with Peace and Climate Change being major issues, Greens must assert ourselves. Make sure that you, and every Green you can contact, votes. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From tnharter at aceweb.com Sat Dec 8 13:07:40 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:07:40 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. In-Reply-To: <475AC903.7080507@charter.net> References: <475AC903.7080507@charter.net> Message-ID: <475B079C.7030203@aceweb.com> I'm thinking we should think about doing a mailing to the membership in January. If we can make an endorsement at the January meeting and put out a mailing by the middle of the month, maybe we can influence how our County votes. What do you guys think? Wes Rolley wrote: > I received my notice from SCC Registrar of Voters yesterday. Ballots > will be in the mail starting Jan. 7, 2008. Voting is upon us. > > Time for procrastination has ended and time for serious thinking has > begun. > > Some general commments: > > It appears that National "approved candidates " list > will end up looking identical to the California list: Ball, Brown, > Johnson, McKinney, Mesplay, Swift. Brown's name is not there yet, but > should be shortly. > > Will this be an election where identity politics determines the > outcome? I hope that you have all taken the time to read Alex's post at > Green Commons. If not, do it now. http://www.greencommons.org/node/870 > I mention this because it appears > that some of the campaigns are based almost solely on identity politics, > for good and bad. > > Right now, significant international attention is focused on two issues: > Iraq / Afghanistan war (the peace issue) and Global Warming > (euphemistically called Climate Change). This is especially true with > an International Meeting this week in Bali and a seriously flawed energy > bill having passed the House and now being considered in the Senate. > It is my opinion that any candidate for the Green Party Presidential > Nomination must be representing the party on BOTH of these issues. That > filter removes some of the candidates from my consideration. It should > be a question for Dr. Ball this next week. > > This is a critical time for the Green Party. This year, with Peace and > Climate Change being major issues, Greens must assert ourselves. Make > sure that you, and every Green you can contact, votes. > > Wes -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Thanksgiving pictures and commentary. From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 8 14:33:51 2007 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 14:33:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <696626.90817.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I think that we need things like an API etc delegation in the structure of the party because no matter how much "solidarity" we wish to have, the reality is that there are some issues that cannot be realized if we focus only on the whole. I agree that too often, people use ethnic identity as a dividing line rather than a uniting force. For example, the Jena 6 is really about the prevalence of racism in our country and is an opportunity to remind us that even if we don't consider ourselves racist, there are small things that we do (or don't do) that reflect the racism in all of us and being aware of it is the first step towards change. However, even on the Berkeley campus, the Jena 6 incident has been used to reflect racism against only African-Americans in our country. Maybe the reason that ethnicity often divides is the mentality embedded in a "caucus." The American Heritage Dictionary defines a caucus as "a group within a legislative or decision-making body seeking to represent a specific interest or influence a particular area of policy." If African-Americans, Latino-Americans, Asian/Pacific Islander-Americans, Native Americans, etc. are all pursuing their own interests, progress will be very slow. However, if the mentality was that of something like a council in which an assembly of persons gather together for consultation, deliberation, or discussion, we can develop broader policies that benefit more people. For example (and this is just a random issue and not intended to reflect the actual views of the various ethnic groups), let's say that the API community feel that they are significantly underrepresented in the media. The African-American community may feel that they have equal representation, but they are always portrayed in stereotypical roles. If each caucus pursues its own goal, the outcome could be that APIs get more representation in the media, but always as the role of a karate expert, nerd, or housekeeper while African-Americans will diversify their roles but have less representation. In the end, both achieve their goals, but face new ones to overcome. Had they worked together to achieve equal representation and non-stereotypical roles to begin with, both groups could be better off. Furthermore, had there been no API or African-American community representation at all, the issue might not have even been noticed. Obviously this is a very simplistic example to a quite complicated and institutional problem, but it hopefully illustrates my point of "caucus vs. no caucus" and "caucus vs. council." I have no idea what this has to do with Permanent Absentee ballots, but this is what I think about the discussion about the "People of Color" caucus. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Sun Dec 9 03:36:08 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:36:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cynthia McKinney announces bid for the presidency Message-ID: <1843.38.99.84.36.1197200168.squirrel@greens.org> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:22:09 -0600 Subject: [usgp-dx] Cynthia McKinney announces bid for the presidency Cynthia McKinney announces bid for the presidency by DAA''IYA L. SANUSI http://www.amsterdamnews.com/news/Article/Article.asp?NewsID=84522&sID=4 /Special to the AmNews/ Originally posted 12/7/2007 Cynthia McKinney was the keynote speaker for the 12th Dr. Donald H. Smith Distinguished Lecture Series at Baruch College on Wednesday, November 28, presenting to an equally noteworthy audience. "She didn't mention it in her talk, but the Honorable Cynthia McKinney has agreed to be the candidate for the presidency of the United States on the Green Party ticket," Dr. Donald H. Smith broke the news at the end of the former congresswoman's speech. "The Green Party has always supported my candidacy, even when I was in the Georgia legislature," she said. "Members of the Green Party were supportive of my efforts then, when nobody thought that I could run and win. Members of the Green Party were a part of the volunteers that put me into the state legislature, and when I ran for Congress over the years, members of the Green Party would come to Georgia and volunteer in the campaign. "They [the Green Party] first asked me in 2000 and again in 2004 to become a part of their national drive. With the Democratic Party having left so many of its base supporters behind, the appeal of the Green Party was one that I could hear," explained McKinney. "It will take more than 43,000 signatures for the Green Party to get a ballot line in the state of Georgia, which is something we're going to work very hard to achieve. I have a lot of support in Georgia, and I would love for them to vote Green in support of the key values the party has always had---economic justice, environmental justice, public policy---for the good of the future, not just the term of election." McKinney went on to say, "People know me as one who places great value on human rights, on justice at home and justice abroad, on peace, and sound fiscal practices for our country, so that we're not losing $2.3 trillion and raising the debt limit while incessantly borrowing and spending that money on illegal wars." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:04:09 -0500 From: Julia Willebrand Subject: Re: [usgp-dx] Cynthia McKinney announces bid for the presidency I was there to hear Cynthia's inspiring msg. And when Dr. Smith said, "She didn't mention it in her talk, but the Honorable Cynthia McKinney has agreed to be the candidate for the presidency of the United States on the Green Party ticket," He also said that he had already contributed more to Cynthia's campaign than all the combined political contributions he had ever made in his life. His comments were followed by that of other professors volunteering that they too supported Cynthia's run. It was a really good night and cheering to hear from NY academia. I'm certain that if Cynthia gets the nomination she will bring great new life to the party. Julia Julia Willebrand, NY NWC Delegate 212 877-5088 From JamBoi at Greens.org Sun Dec 9 03:48:51 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:48:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Pres. Candidate Elaine Brown: Statement of Platform & Positions (fwd) Message-ID: <1862.38.99.84.36.1197200931.squirrel@greens.org> From: Scott McLarty Subject: Green Pres. Candidate Elaine Brown: Statement of Platform & Positions (fwd) >From Elaine Brown http://www.elainebrown.org> (Please forward widely to Green Party lists) STATEMENT of PLATFORM and POSITIONS ELAINE BROWN CANDIDATE for 2008 GREEN PARTY PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION As a former leader of the Black Panther Party, a Green Party candidate for mayor of Brunswick, Georgia (2005), an author and college lecturer, a community organizer?as co-founder of Mothers Advocating Juvenile Justice and the National Alliance for Radical Prison Reform, and a local leader of the ?No on One? campaign (advocating same gender partnership rights) (Atlanta, 1997-2004)?and as executive director of the Michael Lewis (?Little B?) Legal Defense Committee, an activist in the campaigns to free political prisoners Imam Jamil Al-Amin, Chip Fitzgerald and Siddique Hasan, and simply as a black woman from the ghetto (Philadelphia), I have a long history and significant credentials in the struggle for social, political and economic justice in the United States. In the absence of a national progressive movement toward the institution of fundamental change in the United States, I believe a ballot cast for a Green Party candidate or issue represents the most significant instrument for change available for the Marginalized Millions?black people, brown people, other people of color, poor working people, those languishing in prison, those without decent housing or health care and all the other oppressed people trying to survive at the bottom of life in the most powerful nation in the world. That is, change will not be e-mailed, rapped in a CD or YouTubed. To paraphrase Malcolm X, for the masses of disenfranchised and disaffected millions in America, the ballot is the bullet! It is my intention to use my presidential campaign to galvanize the non-voting Marginalized Millions to seize the ballot of the Green Party toward their self-empowerment. The Green Party, too, must seize this moment of national malaise and disillusion to come out of the morass of being a repository for disgruntled Democrats and open the Party?s doors to the non-voting millions so as to actively and powerfully challenge the status quo and become an effective force in the national political arena. I believe I am a catalyst the Green Party can use for this necessary transition. Beyond a call for the immediate, unconditional and complete withdrawal of U.S. troops and war machinery from Iraq and Afghanistan, my platform focuses on the repeal of the ?three-strikes? crime laws across the nation. No other domestic issue is more urgent for black people, brown people, poor people. This Clinton-promulgated law (1994) and its progeny caused the doubling of America?s prison population in the ten years since passage. The result is, over two million people are presently incarcerated in America, with five million more on parole or probation, with families representing millions more affected by their incarceration, and millions of formerly incarcerated people. In general, this mass incarceration?distinguishing the U.S. as the country with the highest incarceration rate in the world!?has devastated black, brown and poor communities, further impoverishing them and destroying familial foundations. In addition, the ?three-strikes? crime laws overturned the 100-year-old juvenile justice system, allowing for the inhumane housing of children in adult prisons, in violation of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child. Finally, it has generated a nefarious economic scheme of financial gain for private prison profiteers.?For blacks, this has been particularly oppressive, given that 50% of prisoners are black, as compared to 13% of the population, reflecting the ongoing, institutionalization of racism in America.?This criminalization and mass incarceration of the poor, when compared to the glorification of mass murder in Iraq and elsewhere, demonstrates that in the United States, crime is a political question. This law, as it exists around the nation, particularly in California where prison overcrowding has rendered the state facilities gulags, must be repealed! My platform, then, is one that urges humanizing this society, as follows, a program that can be easily supported by the immediate transfer of the billions of dollars spent on war?one trillion dollars last year alone: 1. Repeal of the ?three-strikes? crime laws, restoring a juvenile justice system, funding programs of education and rehabilitation for those incarcerated and transitional housing and employment for those released, and restoring voting and other civil rights to prisoners and former prisoners. 2. Full and free health care for everyone, as exists in most civilized countries. 3. Complete and free primary, secondary and higher education for everyone, eliminating the exclusion of the children of poor and working families from obtaining a college education. 4. Complete opening of the borders of the United States accompanied by the institution of a guaranteed minimum living wage of $25/hour for all workers, so as to elucidate the so-called immigration question now confounded by racist assaults on Mexicans and Central Americans coming into the U.S. to work and to provide all people working in the United States with a decent standard of living. 5. Creation of a base of free or low-cost, decent housing, so as to eliminate homelessness and provide every human being the fundamental right to a decent place to live. 6. The repeal of all laws that discriminate against or dehumanize people on account of ethnicity, gender, nationality, sexuality, religion, age, or disability, and the creation of laws that guarantee non-discrimination and human rights to all. 7. Institution of laws and policies that promote purification and cleansing of the air, water and land and that outlaw polluting, contaminating or adulterating them, toward reversal of the pollution of nature itself, particularly as this pollution seeps into and devastates the lives of black and brown and other poor people trying to breathe and live in the ghettos, barrios and hollers of this nation. 8. The payment of reparations by the United State government to native peoples for the theft of land and to Gullah/Geechee and other African slave descendants for slave labor. 9. Total dismantling of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction by the United States, and recognition of and adherence to all international agreements as to war, crime and human rights. 10. Imposition of wealth taxes and reduction of taxes for poor and working people, toward a complete and fair redistribution of the wealth of the nation. I have embraced and worked for the ideals and issues set forth here, reflected in the Green Party?s Ten Key Values, for most of my life. It is my hope to seize the opportunity of being the Green Party presidential nominee to widely advocate for and promulgate this platform among the Marginalized Millions to bring about the concretization of it through election of Green Party candidates in every city and state as well as nationally. From eameece at california.com Fri Dec 7 10:33:49 2007 From: eameece at california.com (E. Alan Meece) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:33:49 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green running for 15th Congressional seat! Peter Myers References: <2243.38.99.84.36.1197025560.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <4759920D.4B72@california.com> Which is the 15th district, I forget. Who is the incumbent? Thanks; Eric the Green Drew Johnson wrote: > > A real peace candidate who was clear from the beginning that invading > foreign countries was wrong. Peter Myers. Peter served in the Peace > Corps in Moldova teaching English that past couple of years. Peter will > be introducing himself and setting up his campaign shortly so all y'all > who want to help run a Peace campaign for the 15th district please speak > up and we'll get you plugged in. > > Building a Peace Society! > > Drew Johnson > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 9 13:40:40 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:40:40 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] pres convention delegates Message-ID: <475C60D8.6020703@sbcglobal.net> For the record, I submitted 8 names to the delegate selection committee last Friday: Cameron, Drew, Ed Chow, Jim D., Jim S., Merriam, Peter Myers, Warner. From pmyers42 at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 16:51:11 2007 From: pmyers42 at gmail.com (Peter Myers) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:51:11 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jared Ball event and youth organization Message-ID: Merriam and Drew- You have all of my contact information, but I don't have yours. Please call me Sunday evening or Monday after 2 p.m. so that I can help publicize Sunday's Jared Ball event and start some of the other young voter organization that we talked about on Thursday. - Peter P.S. Hi everyone. Peter Myers pmyers42 at gmail.com From WB4D23 at aol.com Sun Dec 9 18:08:56 2007 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:08:56 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. Message-ID: In a message dated 12/8/2007 1:06:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, tnharter at aceweb.com writes: I'm thinking we should think about doing a mailing to the membership in January. If we can make an endorsement at the January meeting and put out a mailing by the middle of the month, maybe we can influence how our County votes. What do you guys think? At last Thursday's general membership meeting, there was a consensus to do phone banking for GOTV. I don't think we would get consensus as to the presidential candidates, so no GPSCC endorsement is probably the better courts. Warner **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Mon Dec 10 09:55:37 2007 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:55:37 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Republican Hack Du Jour -- Orange County's Chriss Street Message-ID: <8CA096D016E3AE4-E80-3E73@MBLK-M19.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, California Republican Hack du jour - Orange County's Chriss Street The California Republican Hack Du Jour is Orange County Treasurer Chriss Street. Orange County Funds Hold SIV Debt on Moody's Review by Michael B. Marois and William Selway Bloombeb.com December 5, 2007 [One-Party Republican] Orange County, California, the wealthiest U.S. municipality ever to declare bankrupcty, bought structured investment vehicles similar to those that caused a run on funds invested by local governments in Florida. ? Twenty percent, or $460 million, of the county's $2.3 billion Extended Fund is invested in so-called SIVs that may face credit-rating cuts, said Treasurer Chriss Street. In all of its funds, the county holds a total of $837 million of SIV debt, including $152 million in its $3.5 billion of money-market funds that isn't under ratings review, said his spokesman, Keith Rodenhuis. . . . ''We'll find out real quick if we have a problem,'' said the county's former Treasurer John Moorlach, who is now a county supervisor. ''But for now I need to be patient and wait and see.'' . . . Moorlach sought to have Street stripped of his authority to manage the county's $6 billion of investments in September amid federal and local corruption probes. He said Street was too distracted by the probes to manage the county's money. The U.S. Justice Department is investigating Street's spending from a bankrupt trucking company, allegedly for his personal use. . . The name of the trust for the trucking company (you can't make this stuff up) is "The End of the Road Trust." Let the whole church say "Amen" to those good old-fashioned Republican conservative "values."?? Another reason why we need the California Green Party. Read More on Green Commons blog at: http://www.greencommons.org/node/879 ? Also see my Daily Kos Diary at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/10/112232/67/853/420187 ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Mon Dec 10 11:05:16 2007 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us) Date: 10 Dec 2007 19:05:16 -0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. Message-ID: <20071210190516.9384.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> >From: WB4D23 at aol.com >Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:08:56 EST >To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >X-Mailer: [AOL] 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5044 >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. >In a message dated 12/8/2007 1:06:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, >tnharter at aceweb.com writes: >>I'm thinking we should think about doing a mailing to the membership in >>January. If we can make an endorsement at the January meeting and put >>out a mailing by the middle of the month, maybe we can influence how our >>County votes. What do you guys think? >At last Thursday's general membership meeting, there was a consensus to do >phone banking for GOTV. I don't think we would get consensus as to the >presidential candidates, so no GPSCC endorsement is probably the better courts. >Warner Discussion Thursday night was phonebanking for sure, but we don't have the cash for a newsletter type mailing. Jim S wanted to do a postcard. I don't think they have much impact, but it's been a long time since we've done one. Cameron From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Dec 10 11:19:04 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:19:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. In-Reply-To: <20071210190516.9384.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20071210190516.9384.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <475D9128.8050106@aceweb.com> cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote: >> From: WB4D23 at aol.com >> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:08:56 EST >> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> X-Mailer: [AOL] 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5044 >> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. > >> In a message dated 12/8/2007 1:06:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> tnharter at aceweb.com writes: > >>> I'm thinking we should think about doing a mailing to the membership in >>> January. If we can make an endorsement at the January meeting and put >>> out a mailing by the middle of the month, maybe we can influence how our >>> County votes. What do you guys think? > >> At last Thursday's general membership meeting, there was a consensus to do >> phone banking for GOTV. I don't think we would get consensus as to the >> presidential candidates, so no GPSCC endorsement is probably the better courts. >> Warner > > Discussion Thursday night was phonebanking for sure, but we don't have > the cash for a newsletter type mailing. Jim S wanted to do a postcard. > I don't think they have much impact, but it's been a long time since > we've done one. > > When we were tabling at the Peace Fair I heard complaints that we hadn't done a mailing in a long time. Usually if we sent out a two page newsletter with a begging strip and a reply envelope the mailing paid for itself and then some. If we can get the mailing together, I think we should do that. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Thanksgiving pictures and commentary. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 10 22:15:03 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:15:03 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] minutes of 12-06-2007 Message-ID: <475E2AE7.1000603@sbcglobal.net> Green Party of Santa Clara County Minutes of Thursday December 6, 2007 Attending: Warner, Jim D., Fred, Drew, Merriam, Cameron, Jim S., Peter Myers Facilitator Jim S. Notetaker Jim D. Timekeeper Merriam Vibeswatcher Cameron Treasurer?s Report Checking Account 1313.23 Receivables $22 Payables $266.28 As a result of an additional topic ? proceeds from ?Mayfield? event - Additional Payable $100 Additional receivable $50 Balance $1,018.95 A discussion of how imperative it is to do fundraising and recruitment. It was suggested/requested to form a team of fundraising events planners Barec. The residents of Santa Clara will vote on a referendum on February 5, 2008. Measure A is with respect to the General Plan. Measure B is a local ordinance. Consensus reached to endorse NO votes on both measures. Warner has a press release and is authorized to speak our behalf. Funds for a mailer for the February referendum are not available. Jim D to obtain pricing and frequency of availability of voter databases from the ROV. Three persons submitted their forms to be a county delegate to the presidential nominating convention in July. The deadline was only one day away. 8 delegates were allotted to Santa Clara County Greens. Santa Clara County has 4 votes on each of measures 91, 92, and 93. Consensus reached to place 4 No votes on 91; 3 Yes and 1 No on 92; and 1 Yes, 2 Nos, and 1 abstain on 93. Warner and Drew tasked to report the results to GPCA. The filing deadlines and ROV requirements for county council candidates to be placed on the ballot in June were discussed. A social coupled with a fundraiser for Jared Ball will be held on Sunday December 16-th from 5 pm to 9 pm at the Smoke Tiki Lounge in San Jose. $20 to cover food expenses. $10 for students. Should attendance not reach the minimum, Meriam will cover the difference. Several attendees volunteered to ?get the word out.? Jim D is to incorporate the editing suggestions for the By-laws re selection of a regional representative and alternate regional representatives. As well as post to discussion lists. Jim S to add Cameron to the state contacts list. Consensus was reached to split the proceeds of the ?Mayfield? event. $50 to the county, $53 to the organizers. Cameron will add a link to the Silicon Valley Impeachment Coalition?s web site. Submitted by Jim Doyle From jims at greens.org Tue Dec 11 18:59:55 2007 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:59:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [ProChoiceOrNoChoice] Save Birth Control Now: Call Representatives Reid and Pelosi Today] Message-ID: <475F4EAB.2000000@greens.org> *Call Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi to help save birth control now ? not next year!* How long would you put up with prices like these ? a 900% increase? Congress can either fix the problem with birth control prices now, or they can put it off until next year. *Now means NOW! Call Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi TODAY at 800-965-4701* Thanks to your help, 136 representatives and 28 senators have gone on record saying that birth control should be made affordable for the low-income women and students affected by the recent price hike. So far, so good, right? But the thing is -- birth control isn't very helpful when you take it 11 months late. Women need access to birth control NOW. You know it, we know it -- but the congressional leadership, Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi, needs one more push from you to make sure this gets done before Congress closes up shop for the holidays. Right now, leaders in Congress are pushing to adjourn this session as soon as possible. If Congress goes home without fixing this mistake, millions of women will have to wait until 2008 for affordable birth control -- we must tell Congress that's unacceptable. Here's how you can make sure Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi use their leadership to ensure this problem is fixed before the end of the year. 1. Call Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi by dialing 800-965-4701 and asking for their offices. 2. Identify yourself as a pro-family planning voter. 3. Ask to leave messages for Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi. Say something like this: "I want to thank Majority Leader Reid / Speaker Pelosi for his/her support for family planning. It's crucial that Congress address the birth control pricing crisis and restore affordable birth control before adjourning. I urge the Majority Leader / Speaker to ensure that the problem is fixed in the Medicare bill -- and that affordable birth control is restored before Congress goes home for the holidays." One question puts this issue in crystal-clear perspective: What if Congress passed a law that made the price of your groceries go up by 900 percent? There would be an instant uproar ... rioting in the streets ... ... And you can bet the problem would be fixed, pronto. Well, Congress passed a law that did the same thing to the cost of birth control -- making birth control prices skyrocket to unaffordable levels for millions of college students and low-income women -- and Congress hasn't done a thing to fix this mistake. Even so, it's not too late to save birth control. Here's a look at our progress so far: :: Earlier this month, you and thousands of other Planned Parenthood supporters wrote to Congress and demanded support for the Prevention Through Affordable Access Act. :: Since then, 164 members of Congress have pledged their commitment to save birth control. And that's excellent. Now we need the pro-family planning leadership to ensure that this problem is fixed before the end of the year. This is our plan, but the power of your voice today is what can make our efforts that much more effective. All it will take is for Congress to pass this fix immediately to make birth control more accessible to millions of women who need it. Please call Senator Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi TODAY at 800-965-4701. Thank you in advance for taking the time to help us make birth control available to ALL women who need it. Your actions aren't just sending a message to Congress -- they're sending a powerful message of support to every woman who is struggling to cover the cost of her birth control. Sincerely, Cecile Richards President, Planned Parenthood Action Fund From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Dec 11 22:53:22 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:53:22 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] No End In Sight Message-ID: <475F8562.4060404@aceweb.com> This evening I saw "No End in Sight" at the Palo Alto Peace & Justice Center. This is the blurb that their website had about it: >The first film of its kind to chronicle the reasons behind Iraq?s >descent into guerilla war, warlord rule, criminality, and anarchy > > No End in Sight is a jaw-dropping insider?s tale of wholesale >incompetence, recklessness, and venality. Based on over two hundred >hours of footage, the film provides a candid retelling of the events >following the fall of Baghdad in 2003 by high-ranking officials such as >former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, Ambassador Barbara >Bodine (in charge of Baghdad during the Spring of 2003), Lawrence >Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, and General Jay >Garner (in charge of the occupation of Iraq through May 2003), as well >as Iraqi civilians, American soldiers, and prominent analysts. > >No End in Sight examines the manner in which the principal errors of >U.S. policy ? insufficient troop levels, allowing the looting of >Baghdad, the purging of professionals from the Iraqi government, and >the disbanding of the Iraqi military ? largely created the insurgency >and chaos that engulf Iraq today. > >How were a group of men with little or no military experience, >knowledge of the Arab world, nor personal experience in Iraq allowed >to make such flagrantly debilitating decisions? No End in Sight >dissects the people, issues, and facts behind the Bush Administration?s >decisions and their consequences on the ground to provide a powerful >look into how arrogance and ignorance turned a military victory >into a seemingly endless and deepening nightmare of a war. I'd say see this movie if you get a chance. It will make you feel very uncomfortable. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Thanksgiving pictures and commentary. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Dec 11 23:06:28 2007 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:06:28 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] No End In Sight In-Reply-To: <475F8562.4060404@aceweb.com> References: <475F8562.4060404@aceweb.com> Message-ID: Everybody got up and left even before the lights came on. Important related points for me: 1. That truck bomb that blew up the UN in 8/03.... Who gained? How did the Ba'athists gain from ejecting the UN? The ones who gained were the mercenaries, who stand to get big bucks for doing not a whole lot as long as there's social chaos in Irag. 2. The movie said there were 45,000 mercenaries in Iraq. I've seen figures of 140,000. 3. The total cost of the war is estimated by the movie at 1.8 ttttttttTrillion dollars. 4. Grover Norquist famously said that he wanted to weaken the federal gov't so he could drown it in his bathtub. Is there any connection between this wish and item 3? 5. Dahr Jamail says that there's a witness who says that the Golden Mosque in Samarra (the bombing of which was an extreme sectarian provocation) was controlled by the Iraqi Nat'l Guard and US troops all night long. 20 minutes after they left, it blew up. 6. Two British soldiers were arrested in Basra dressed as Arabs, with explosives in the trunk of their car. They were taken to the police station. British soldiers used tracked vehicles to knock down the walls of the police station to get these guys back 7. We must remove the current regime from power, and we must do it next year. Brian > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:53:22 -0800 > From: tnharter at aceweb.com > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] No End In Sight > > This evening I saw "No End in Sight" at the Palo Alto Peace & Justice > Center. This is the blurb that their website had about it: > > >The first film of its kind to chronicle the reasons behind Iraq?s > >descent into guerilla war, warlord rule, criminality, and anarchy > > > > No End in Sight is a jaw-dropping insider?s tale of wholesale > >incompetence, recklessness, and venality. Based on over two hundred > >hours of footage, the film provides a candid retelling of the events > >following the fall of Baghdad in 2003 by high-ranking officials such as > >former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, Ambassador Barbara > >Bodine (in charge of Baghdad during the Spring of 2003), Lawrence > >Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, and General Jay > >Garner (in charge of the occupation of Iraq through May 2003), as well > >as Iraqi civilians, American soldiers, and prominent analysts. > > > >No End in Sight examines the manner in which the principal errors of > >U.S. policy ? insufficient troop levels, allowing the looting of > >Baghdad, the purging of professionals from the Iraqi government, and > >the disbanding of the Iraqi military ? largely created the insurgency > >and chaos that engulf Iraq today. > > > >How were a group of men with little or no military experience, > >knowledge of the Arab world, nor personal experience in Iraq allowed > >to make such flagrantly debilitating decisions? No End in Sight > >dissects the people, issues, and facts behind the Bush Administration?s > >decisions and their consequences on the ground to provide a powerful > >look into how arrogance and ignorance turned a military victory > >into a seemingly endless and deepening nightmare of a war. > > I'd say see this movie if you get a chance. It will make you feel very > uncomfortable. > > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > Latest change: Added Thanksgiving pictures and commentary. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Wed Dec 12 03:25:51 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:25:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Presidential Candidate special guest @ GP Holiday Social Message-ID: <2295.38.99.84.36.1197458751.squirrel@greens.org> Forward far and wide http://www.greens.org/~cls/SanXJoseXholidayXparty.pdf Hi friends, The Santa Clara Co. Greens are always interested in meeting the presidential candidates and hosting a get together for her/him. This will be our second one for the 2008 campaign (the first one was a highly successful meet and greet gathering in support of Cynthia McKinney). Please invite like-minded folks concerned with issues of urban social justice and bring them with you! Holiday Social w/ special guest Green Party Candidate for President, Dr. Jared Ball When: Sunday Dec 16th 5-9 Where: Smoke Tiki Lounge and Barbeque, Downtown San Jose, http://www.smoketiki.com/ 152 Post Street, San Jose, Ca. 95113, (408) 292-4266 Intersection of Post and San Pedro (which is close to Santa Clara and Market) Map: http://tinyurl.com/2ulvpw Cost: $20, $10 for students (includes food/appetizers, does not include alcoholic beverages) Dr. Jared Ball, one of the seven 2008 Green Party Presidential candidates on the CA Green party primary ballot, will stop in San Jos? while touring CA, on Sunday, December 16th, 2007. His web site: http://JaredBall.com http://myspace.com/jaredforgreen Dr. Ball is a recognized progressive scholar, educator, and journalist, Pacifica Radio talk show host, and DC activist. Taking his cues from the style of hip-hop artists such as Public Enemy and KRS One, who years ago motivated entire communities of urban youth towards political activism, professor Jared Ball remains an outspoken critic of what?s wrong with America, and an unrelenting optimist regarding the Hip-hop Generations power to change society for the better. ?We are spending untold billions in an unsupported war in Iraq, yet our urban cities remain war zones with scarce opportunities hidden among the minefields of drugs, failing schools and poverty,? said Dr. Ball, professor of communications at Morgan State University. ?Our politicians say a lot about themselves when they lie to spend billions on needless wars and refuse to spend on providing universal health care for all or ensuring that young people from Oakland or Los Angeles have access to decent schools, jobs and training,? added Ball. During his December tour of California, Ball hopes to bring attention for such issues as the ?Green Economy,? and many of the progressive California initiatives for improving the environment as potential national models for creating economic opportunity, particularly for African American and Latino youth. The Santa Clara Co. Green Party will hold the Holiday Social with special guest Jared Ball from 5-9PM at the Smoke Tiki Lounge and Barbeque ( http://www.smoketiki.com/ ) 152 Post Street, San Jose, Ca. 95113, (408) 292-4266. Performance by nationally renowned progressive Hip-Hop artist/educator/activist Head-Roc (http://www.head-roc.com) will accompany Dr. Ball?s presentation. From DPBxx at aol.com Wed Dec 12 10:31:38 2007 From: DPBxx at aol.com (DPBxx at aol.com) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:31:38 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] New member, basic questions.... Message-ID: Greetings and thanks for an opportunity to post. I'm interested in supporting GP efforts, but after a cursory review of the SCCGP activities and discussions am left wondering what distinguishes your group from myriad others lending voice to initiatives coming from the left-of-center Dems? While sympathetic to many of those positions (and appreciative of their obvious affinity for Greens), I am frankly concerned that such close alignments undercut the opportunity for a Green Party agenda to lead this country out of its two-party stalemate. Environmental issues are not even mentioned in your discussions. The science is now sufficiently clear to suggest that such issues, natural to the Greens and cutting across so many of the old political divides, will soon come to dominant our political process. Can anyone tell me specifically how SCCGP is addressing such issues? Thanks for any/all responses in advance. - DPB **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Dec 12 10:41:04 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:41:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] No End In Sight In-Reply-To: <475F8562.4060404@aceweb.com> References: <475F8562.4060404@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <47602B40.8060401@aceweb.com> If you have a high speed connection and two hours to watch it, it's at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4145976883634269707&q=No+End+in+Sight&total=804&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3 Tian Harter wrote: > This evening I saw "No End in Sight" at the Palo Alto Peace & Justice > Center. This is the blurb that their website had about it: > > >The first film of its kind to chronicle the reasons behind Iraq?s > >descent into guerilla war, warlord rule, criminality, and anarchy > > > > No End in Sight is a jaw-dropping insider?s tale of wholesale > >incompetence, recklessness, and venality. Based on over two hundred > >hours of footage, the film provides a candid retelling of the events > >following the fall of Baghdad in 2003 by high-ranking officials such as > >former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, Ambassador Barbara > >Bodine (in charge of Baghdad during the Spring of 2003), Lawrence > >Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, and General Jay > >Garner (in charge of the occupation of Iraq through May 2003), as well > >as Iraqi civilians, American soldiers, and prominent analysts. > > > >No End in Sight examines the manner in which the principal errors of > >U.S. policy ? insufficient troop levels, allowing the looting of > >Baghdad, the purging of professionals from the Iraqi government, and > >the disbanding of the Iraqi military ? largely created the insurgency > >and chaos that engulf Iraq today. > > > >How were a group of men with little or no military experience, > >knowledge of the Arab world, nor personal experience in Iraq allowed > >to make such flagrantly debilitating decisions? No End in Sight > >dissects the people, issues, and facts behind the Bush Administration?s > >decisions and their consequences on the ground to provide a powerful > >look into how arrogance and ignorance turned a military victory > >into a seemingly endless and deepening nightmare of a war. > > I'd say see this movie if you get a chance. It will make you feel very > uncomfortable. > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Thanksgiving pictures and commentary. From andid at cagreens.org Wed Dec 12 15:39:50 2007 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:39:50 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FYI - If you missed "Unreasonable Man" last time...it's on PBS... Message-ID: <2E5A9642-4078-4F98-A755-42CF6E4981F4@cagreens.org> Dear Friend, Join us for the national premier broadcast of An Unreasonable Man on Tuesday, December 18 at 9 PM EST/8 PM CST, on PBS's Independent Lens series. The documentary will air over 700 times on over 220 PBS metropolitan area affiliates between December 18-24, 2007. For Movie Information and the Local Broadcast Schedule In Your Area Visit: http://www.itvs.org/shows/broadcast.php?showID=7713 http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/unreasonableman/ The film shows Nader's harshest critics and most eloquent supporters to create a compelling and inspirational film to show how people have the power for peace and justice. Please Forward this Email, Invite your friends over to watch, and Help Spread the Word! Watch the Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9Hal0gycg For a donation of $200 to help eliminate the remaining campaign debt, we will send you what we are calling our Unreasonable Package, 2007 Edition. Visit www.votenader.org for details on the package and how to contribute. The Unreasonable Package, 2007 Edition includes the An Unreasonable Man DVD with a bonus two-disc DVD loaded with 137 minutes of bonus features including a number of unused scenes ? Ralph's dispute with the corporate-controlled Congressional Black Caucus and his long fight against nuclear power among them. The DVD also includes a set of added features: ? Debating the Role of Third Parties in the United States ? What Kind of President Would Ralph Nader Be? ? Profile of a Charismatic Leader ? What Happened to the Democratic Party? ? Why the Right is Better Organized Than the Left, and ? Ralph Nader on the Iraq War. Also included in The Unreasonable Package, 2007 Edition: ? The 319-page biography of Ralph ? Nader: Crusader, Spoiler, Icon by Justin Martin. ? A hard cover copy of the 400-page populist classic Democracy At Risk: Rescuing Main Street from Wall Street by Jeff Gates. ? Ralph's Revolt: The Case for Joining Nader's Rebellion by Greg Bates Please consider buying extra copies for the holidays, to pass them on to young and old alike. That's the two DVD An Unreasonable Man collection. Plus three books: Nader: Crusader, Spoiler, Icon, Democracy at Risk, and Ralph's Revolt: The Case for Joining Nader's Rebellion. All for a donation of $200 to our campaign. It's time to take a stand. For the unreasonable man of the century. Who has made such a difference in our lives. Thank you for your own good work and support. The Nader Camejo Team ------------------------------------------------------ | Paid for by Nader for President 2004 General | | Election Committee | ------------------------------------------------------ Contributions are not tax deductible From JamBoi at Greens.org Wed Dec 12 20:10:47 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:10:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] New member, basic questions.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1557.38.99.84.36.1197519047.squirrel@greens.org> Dear DPB, we would welcome your new energy to address the many extremely salient environmental issues we'd like to be more active on. We are active currently in the Save BAREC issue, and the move against the building of a new stadium in Santa Clara and have kept abreast of the Coyote Valley issue. We in the GPSCC have one of the strong leaders on environmental issues, Wes Rolley who is now co-chair of the EcoAction Committee of the GP-US. There will always be discussion and disagreement about how closely or distantly we should ally ourselves with progressive Dems and I'm sympathetic to the discomfort you, I and all the rest of the Greens experience on this. At the same time, really we'll need to elect people to office and lead from office if we want to have this situation change significantly and for us to be working from a more independent position. Apart from that I favor coalitional work with any who are willing (and not working to undermine us). There are many, many people and organizations who are not part of the Dem's machinery and are happy to find common cause with us. Together we can! Maybe you are ready to help us be leaders on the extremely important environmental issues. Most recently we worked on a response to the San Jose mayor's Green Vision plan but could really use some additional energy to get that completed. Please come introduce yourself at our Holiday Social on Sunday (details posted in other messages on this discussion list. Poster found at http://www.greens.org/~cls/SanXJoseXholidayXparty.pdf) Green is Core! Drew Johnson GPSCCo County Councilor On Wed, December 12, 2007 10:31, DPBxx at aol.com wrote: > Greetings and thanks for an opportunity to post. > > I'm interested in supporting GP efforts, but after a cursory review of > the > SCCGP activities and discussions am left wondering what distinguishes > your > group from myriad others lending voice to initiatives coming from the > left-of-center Dems? While sympathetic to many of those positions (and > appreciative of > their obvious affinity for Greens), I am frankly concerned that such > close > alignments undercut the opportunity for a Green Party agenda to lead this > country out of its two-party stalemate. Environmental issues are not even > mentioned in your discussions. The science is now sufficiently clear to > suggest that > such issues, natural to the Greens and cutting across so many of the old > political divides, will soon come to dominant our political process. Can > anyone > tell me specifically how SCCGP is addressing such issues? > > Thanks for any/all responses in advance. > > - DPB > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 13 10:40:47 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:40:47 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] events of interest Message-ID: <47617CAF.8050705@sbcglobal.net> Notification of these events came to me by way of the San Jose Peace Center. Please note the participation of high school students re ending the war. *Tuesday, January 1* *New Year's Day Skate Against Torture* *12:00 noon, Holiday Ice Rink, Circle of Palms, Market St. (between the San Jose Museum of Art and the Fairmont Hotel) * The Jeppeson DataPlan logo and name is appearing again this year at the ice rink in downtown San Jose. Join us to express your objection to the promotion of this company at this family entertainment venue. Sponsor: San Jose Peace Center, Friday Peace Vigil/UFPJ, South Bay Mobilization, South Bay Coalition to Stop Torture *F**riday, January 4th* *Student Sit Down Protest: "End the War in Iraq, Stay Out of Iran"* *12:00 noon, Federal Building, 2nd and San Carlos St., San Jose* Join high school and college students for an afternoon of protest against the Iraq War at the offices of our federal government in San Jose. To help, call Aaron, S.A.W. representative, (408) 265-3455. Organized by Students Against War, Branham High School, Students for Justice, De Anza College, and San Jose Peace Center. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 13 10:46:15 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:46:15 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] events(2) Message-ID: <47617DF7.504@sbcglobal.net> Oops. Did not include this one the first time. *Friday, December 14* *Californians for Justice's End of the Year Reception!* *6:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m., James Lick H.S. Multi-Purpose Room, 57 N. White Road (Corner of White Rd and Alum Rock Ave.)* Come celebrate with us! To honor all of our supporters and victories for 2007! There will be performances, food, and sharing of our campaign work with youth in the East Side! Sponsored by: Californians for Justice, (408) 272-0236 From kaisha_marie at comcast.net Wed Dec 12 09:57:58 2007 From: kaisha_marie at comcast.net (Kaisha Torres) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:57:58 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] EV GREENS MEETING Message-ID: Hi Group: This is a reminder that the EV Greens will not be holding their regular monthly meeting tonight but will reconvene on January 9th at 7pm at Rob's in Milpitas. However, it is our hope that without meeting, we will be able to devote our time and energy this week to getting the word out about the event Sunday with Dr. Ball. We have drafted a great Evite that can be sent out by anyone (if you are not sure how, please call me and I will walk you through it 408-529-1063) and Drew created a flyer for paper distribution as well. We can even draft a text formatted invite to send out via email if someone would prefer it that way. The important thing is to use our time, energy, and resources this week to make this a great event. 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Jim Doyle PROPOSED BY-LAWS RE REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE ARTICLE 9 ELECTION OF REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVES (RR) AND ALTERNATES 9.0 Definitions in GPCA bylaws Regional Representation on the GPCA Coordinating Committee is defined by the GPCA bylaws, Articles 6, 7 and elsewhere. This bylaws article constitutes an alternative election process as provided for in the GPCA bylaws section 7-1.5. 9.1 RR Election Meeting RR election meetings are considered valid if they meet the following conditions: 1) the election is authorized and called by the County Council 2) the meeting is open to all county party Members and all Members present can vote in the election, 3) the election has been publicly announced on county party email lists at least 15 days in advance of the election meeting and 4) where the RR Election is a preannounced agenda item for the meeting. 9.2 Declaring Candidacy Candidates shall declare their candidacy on the email lists of the counties of the region prior to the RR Candidate Presentation Meetings at which a vacancy or replacement is considered. 9.3 Presentation and Election Meetings The RR election process may be conducted as part of the regular monthly meetings of the GPSCC. Alternately, a special meeting may be called if so decided by the county council. Candidates shall present themselves to the electorate at a valid meeting. This presentation shall be at a meeting that precedes the meeting where the vote occurs. 9.4 Election Process This election process assumes this region is allocated one representative. This section shall be amended if the allocation is increased. The Regional Representative and Alternate Representative shall be chosen by separate votes. The Regional Representative shall be chosen first. In an election where there is only one declared candidate, the decision shall be made in Accordance Article 5 of these bylaws. Regional Representative elections shall be deemed business decisions. If more than one candidate has declared their candidacy, the election shall be conducted using Instant Runoff Voting, with section 7-1.9 of the GPCA bylaws as guidance. 9.5 Regional Coordination A candidate must be approved by all of the county parties of the region. If different candidates are approved by the county parties the decision(s) shall be retaken by the county parties until agreement on candidates between the county parties is reached. 9.6 Representational Balance in the Region It shall be an objective to have the Regional Representative and the first Alternate Regional representative be from different counties wherever possible. 9.7 Replacement or Recall A Regional Representative or an Alternate Regional Representative may be replaced or recalled using the same process for election described here. 9.8 Effective Date This amendment, Article 9 of the by-laws, shall take effect after formal approval by the GPSCC, and after the bylaws of substantially the same form have been adopted by all counties in the region. Upon adoption, the County Council from each county party shall separately and independently notify the GPCA of their bylaws amendments adding this alternative election process to the default procedures provided by the state Green Party Bylaws. 9.9 Expiration of Article 9 This article 9 detailing the selection of regional representatives to the GPCA Coordinating Committee shall expire if a county party in the region rescinds it, or if the region is redefined and a new county party added to the region decides not to adopt this bylaw. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: draft bylaw 9.doc Type: application/msword Size: 28672 bytes Desc: not available URL: From andid at cagreens.org Fri Dec 14 07:25:12 2007 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:25:12 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: New member, basic questions.... References: Message-ID: <6B828785-86D9-4C3B-A021-AC42AE4939DD@cagreens.org> This didn't show up so I'm trying again... Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: Andrea Dorey > Date: December 12, 2007 3:55:04 PM PST > To: DPBxx at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] New member, basic questions.... > > Dear DGP, > > Environmental issues are posted occasionally, but we Greens are > soooo in agreement with the importance of this issue that there is > little to argue about here. > > As for your other comment about the up close and comfy relationship > with lefty Dems, there are a few of us that have some concerns > about the influence that this has on Green politics, and that we > (the concerned) do not like seeing strategic voting and self-hatred > over election results when the Dems screw up and then blame Green > candidates, etc. That part of the discussion has been painful and > can divide Greens if we are not careful about our rhetoric here. > > Stay around. I think you will see more to your liking as you > contribute to the discussion. > > Andrea > > On Dec 12, 2007, at 10:31 AM, DPBxx at aol.com wrote: > >> Greetings and thanks for an opportunity to post. >> >> I'm interested in supporting GP efforts, but after a cursory >> review of the SCCGP activities and discussions am left wondering >> what distinguishes your group from myriad others lending voice to >> initiatives coming from the left-of-center Dems? While sympathetic >> to many of those positions (and appreciative of their obvious >> affinity for Greens), I am frankly concerned that such close >> alignments undercut the opportunity for a Green Party agenda to >> lead this country out of its two-party stalemate. Environmental >> issues are not even mentioned in your discussions. The science is >> now sufficiently clear to suggest that such issues, natural to the >> Greens and cutting across so many of the old political divides, >> will soon come to dominant our political process. Can anyone tell >> me specifically how SCCGP is addressing such issues? >> >> Thanks for any/all responses in advance. >> >> - DPB >> >> >> >> See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for >> winter. >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Fri Dec 14 20:20:57 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:20:57 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] UN Climate Change Conference-Feinstein on final negotiations Message-ID: <47635629.7030909@charter.net> This is just in and, in you are online tonight, take some time to view it. Then, we have work to do because, while Bush Inc. failed in Bali, the new energy bill from the Democratic Congress is much less than they claim. I will follow this with another note, which is a press release from Kent Mesplay today regarding Climate Change and Bali. __ UN Climate Change Conference-Feinstein on final negotiations 02:47 California Green Mike Feinstein reports on the controversial breakdown of negotiations on the final morning of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. December 15th 2007. Bali, Indonesia. www.infccc.int (more) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYo9q70aUpg -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From wrolley at charter.net Fri Dec 14 20:23:06 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:23:06 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Greens versus Green-washed: Mesplay on Bali mtg. Message-ID: <476356AA.6080500@charter.net> *Greens versus Green-washed: Mesplay on Bali mtg. * The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change meeting in Bali is drawing to a close. While the rest of the world is determined to do something about Climate Change, the United States under the Bush Administration continues to practice divide and conquer tactics between countries in order to avoid taking any responsibility for ourselves. They use the word "consensus" in press conferences and then try to undermine the consensus that already exists. This administration has been treating Al Qaeda as a security threat and ignores the security threat from an entire planet whose populations, especially those of the poorest countries, have been destabilized by rising ocean levels, failing crops, drought and floods. That is the real security issue of the 21st Century and it cannot be solved by 19th Century policies. The beginnings of this are already clear, as the US Dept. of Agriculture announced this week that we have had significant falls in the stocks of corn, wheat and soybeans, along with an increased demand. The House Oversight Committee (Rep. Henry Waxman, Chair) has just released a major report that details exactly how far the Bush Administration has gone with their political interference with the work on climate science. As a scientist myself, one whose current work deals with air quality control, I am appalled that our government has perpetrated this deceit on the American Public. Under a Green Party administration, there would be two standards: are we getting the science right and are we being just in our use. The scientific consensus is clear. The only lack is a political consensus. Even as the Bush Administration's performance in Bali brings shame to this country, the Congressional Democrats are trying to green-wash themselves, hiding bad policies behind carefully scripted language. The Energy Bill (HR 6) recently passed by the House of Representatives does contain some improvements such as an increase in Corporate Average Fuel Standards (CAFE) for both cars and trucks; but not until 2020. It also calls for a three-fold increase in the renewable fuel standard which will create a greater demand for ethanol from corn, itself a worse producer of green house gases than the petroleum product it would replace. Even Sen. Obama cannot help but propose legislation that would "require the production of 18 billion gallons of renewable fuels by 2016". The words he wraps around it are all about boosting our rural economy. It is just about winning votes in the Iowa primary and gaining the support of major agri-business contributors. Diversion of even more corn from our dwindling supply for the production of ethanol will drive up the prices of almost all our corn-derived groceries: meat, milk and many packaged product containing "high fructose corn syrup." I want an improved political process that allows good candidates to run so that we have public officials who treat science with respect and who actually work to make us more secure rather than catering to their favorite businesses. It is for lack of political will that we do not have solar and wind as the back-bone of all energy production in this nation. If we take away the subsidies given to coal and nuclear, allow an even handed, true costing of all energy options, we will no longer be proposing new coal or nuclear power facilities. Once we develop the mind-set of every structure being designed for energy efficiency and becoming its own power plant we will not need those new plants. There is now a proposed Science Debate 2008. I would relish the opportunity to challenge any of the other candidates. The debate we need is over energy. The energy we need will come when one joins the Green Revolution. Register Green and Vote Green. Just be wary of green-washed candidates. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From mkmusic at greens.org Fri Dec 14 23:47:58 2007 From: mkmusic at greens.org (Merriam Kathaleen) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:47:58 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] events of interest In-Reply-To: <47617CAF.8050705@sbcglobal.net> References: <47617CAF.8050705@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <476386AE.2040802@greens.org> Jim Doyle wrote: > Notification of these events came to me by way of the San Jose Peace Center. > Please note the participation of high school students re ending the war. > > *Tuesday, January 1* > > *New Year's Day Skate Against Torture* > > *12:00 noon, Holiday Ice Rink, Circle of Palms, Market St. (between the > San Jose Museum of Art and the Fairmont Hotel) * > > The Jeppeson DataPlan logo and name is appearing again this year at the > ice rink in downtown San Jose. Join us to express your objection to the > promotion of this company at this family entertainment venue. > > Sponsor: San Jose Peace Center, Friday Peace Vigil/UFPJ, South Bay > Mobilization, South Bay Coalition to Stop Torture > > *F**riday, January 4th* > > *Student Sit Down Protest: "End the War in Iraq, Stay Out of Iran"* > > *12:00 noon, Federal Building, 2nd and San Carlos St., San Jose* > > Join high school and college students for an afternoon of protest > against the Iraq War at the offices of our federal government in San > Jose. To help, call Aaron, S.A.W. representative, (408) 265-3455. > > Organized by Students Against War, Branham High School, Students for > Justice, De Anza College, and San Jose Peace Center. > Hi All, I met the student organizer with Students Against War from Branham High School. I told him about Our Silicon Valley Impeachment Coalition and the weekly demonstrations we have at Zoe Lofgren's office. I told him our coalition members will support their Student Sit Down Protest and defintely participate with them. Hopefully we can also get a large group of our Greens to participate as well. These students welcome us seasoned demonstrators and are grateful for our support. Merriam > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > From sanda at greens.org Fri Dec 14 19:37:49 2007 From: sanda at greens.org (Sanda Everette) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:37:49 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SC-SM] draft of bylaw re regional rep election In-Reply-To: <4762429A.1050401@sbcglobal.net> References: <4762429A.1050401@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I have another question-- I would think that if another county party joins our region, they would be expected to accept the by-laws that exist at that point. Is my logic fuzzy, or does logic have nothing to do with it? 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URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Sat Dec 15 10:05:51 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:05:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Come Sunday for Holiday Social and meet Jared Ball, presidential candidate Message-ID: <2826.38.99.84.36.1197741951.squirrel@greens.org> Forward far and wide! http://www.greens.org/~cls/SanXJoseXholidayXparty.pdf Hi friends, The Santa Clara Co. Greens are always interested in meeting the presidential candidates and hosting a get together for her/him. This will be our second one for the 2008 campaign (the first one was a highly successful meet and greet gathering in support of Cynthia McKinney). Please invite like-minded folks concerned with issues of urban social justice and bring them with you! Holiday Social w/ special guest Green Party Candidate for President, Dr. Jared Ball When: Sunday Dec 16th 5-9 Where: Smoke Tiki Lounge and Barbeque, Downtown San Jose, http://www.smoketiki.com/ 152 Post Street, San Jose, Ca. 95113, (408) 292-4266 Intersection of Post and San Pedro (which is close to Santa Clara and Market) Map: http://tinyurl.com/2ulvpw Cost: $20, $10 for students (includes food/appetizers, does not include alcoholic beverages) Dr. Jared Ball, one of the seven 2008 Green Party Presidential candidates on the CA Green party primary ballot, will stop in San Jos? while touring CA, on Sunday, December 16th, 2007. His web site: http://JaredBall.com http://myspace.com/jaredforgreen Dr. Ball is a recognized progressive scholar, educator, and journalist, Pacifica Radio talk show host, and DC activist. Taking his cues from the style of hip-hop artists such as Public Enemy and KRS One, who years ago motivated entire communities of urban youth towards political activism, professor Jared Ball remains an outspoken critic of what?s wrong with America, and an unrelenting optimist regarding the Hip-hop Generations power to change society for the better. ?We are spending untold billions in an unsupported war in Iraq, yet our urban cities remain war zones with scarce opportunities hidden among the minefields of drugs, failing schools and poverty,? said Dr. Ball, professor of communications at Morgan State University. ?Our politicians say a lot about themselves when they lie to spend billions on needless wars and refuse to spend on providing universal health care for all or ensuring that young people from Oakland or Los Angeles have access to decent schools, jobs and training,? added Ball. During his December tour of California, Ball hopes to bring attention for such issues as the ?Green Economy,? and many of the progressive California initiatives for improving the environment as potential national models for creating economic opportunity, particularly for African American and Latino youth. The Santa Clara Co. Green Party will hold the Holiday Social with special guest Jared Ball from 5-9PM at the Smoke Tiki Lounge and Barbeque ( http://www.smoketiki.com/ ) 152 Post Street, San Jose, Ca. 95113, (408) 292-4266. Performance by nationally renowned progressive Hip-Hop artist/educator/activist Head-Roc (http://www.head-roc.com) will accompany Dr. Ball?s presentation. ____ https://greens.org/sqmail/src/webmail.php Potential Green Party nominee visits HSU by Cerena Johnson, 12/12/2007 Green Party presidential hopeful Jared Ball visited Humboldt State University Wednesday to deliver a message in a distinctive political style. Accompanied by ?mayor of DC hip-hop? artist Head-Roc, local poets and speakers, Ball emphasized issues that he said are largely unaddressed in society. ?We?re using hip-hop as the delivery vehicle to get to the people of culture,? Head Roc said, to get people in different communities interested and participating. ?We?re trying to erase a lot of the negative stereotypes,? Head-Roc said. Ball said by using hip-hop style, he is trying to reach out to the communities who are most disenfranchised. ?We want to help build the Green Party,? he said, and ?help re-center the discussion.? He lists among his campaign issues a redistribution of wealth in order to approach problems such as poverty and access to health care. The top 1 percent of Americans are wealthier than 90 percent of the population, he said. Ball also offered the example of the prison industrial complex, in which 80 percent of prisoners are non-violent offenders, and said issues such as police brutality need to be addressed. ?If we address how we treat people here, it would have a direct effect on what we do overseas,? he said. Ball said he is running his campaign based on the influence of the goals of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Ball is an assistant professor of communications studies at Morgan State University in Baltimore, Md. Ball is also an independent journalist; a radio host with WPFW 89.3 FM Pacifica Radio in Washington, D.C.; the editor of Words, Beats and Life Global Journal of Hip-Hop Culture; founder of FreeMix Radio: The Original Mixtape Radio Show; and a veteran of Desert Shield/Desert Storm. For more information on Ball?s campaign, go to www.jaredball.com or www.voxunion.com From tnharter at aceweb.com Sun Dec 16 00:57:50 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:57:50 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] UN Climate Change Conference-Feinstein on finalnegotiations In-Reply-To: <47635629.7030909@charter.net> References: <47635629.7030909@charter.net> Message-ID: <4764E88E.20102@aceweb.com> According to the site in the URL at the end of that video, they did reach some sort of agreement in the end: http://unfccc.int/2860.php -- Tian http://tian.greens.org I came home from SVBC's party with a Fat Tire Beer flat tire repair kit for my bicycle, a volunteer mug, and some really groovy reflective tape. From wrolley at charter.net Sun Dec 16 08:57:50 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:57:50 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] UN Climate Change Conference-Feinstein on finalnegotiations In-Reply-To: <4764E88E.20102@aceweb.com> References: <47635629.7030909@charter.net> <4764E88E.20102@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4765590E.1080009@charter.net> Tian Harter wrote: > According to the site in the URL at the end of that video, they did > reach some sort of agreement in the end: > > http://unfccc.int/2860.php > Everyone will call this a victory, but if it is, it is a very hollow one. It was an agreement to continue talking for another two year and to reach some sort of actionable plan before 2010,. That is two years in which we will have continued to build up the surplus of Green House Gases. That is two years in which US Government can swathe it's inaction and play Alphonse / Gaston with China. That is two years in which the lack of American Action will increase the enmity that we have engendered throughout the world. That is two years in which even a change in Administration, e.g. to a Clinton Compromiser or an Obama Dreamer, will continue to tringulate deals that allow multi-national corporations to continue screwing the planet or to move their operations to countries whose government regulators are more easily bribed. I would suggest that everyone browse through the blog entries that Andrew Revikin has called for on his Dot Earth blog at the NY Times. Voices on Bali and Beyond is a collection of comments from people who were actually there. Here is a quote from the first responder, Dr. Thomas J. Goreau, the delegate from Jamaica, and representative of a Coalition of Caribbean nations: His target was the EU for its failure to stand up to the US stalling tactics. > This amounts to a real betrayal of all those who counted on the EU to > do the right thing, and amounts to a *capital crime against the > environment,* because millions will die as the result of unchecked > global warming. If there is a single issue that the Green Party needs to be very clear about, it is the one of Climate Change. What we do now, not what we begin to do in 2010 will have an effect on: - agricultural policy a swarming weather makes major changes to what can be grown where and how much food might each country have to import or be able to export as a result. - trade policies as competition for declining reserves of food and water, the basic essentials of life, make countries increasingly protectionist. - energy policy unless we take aggressive steps to get off of fossil fuels. - security as increased frustration with US arrogance sends an increasing flow of people towards Al Qaeda or other organizations. - health care as diseases once considered tropical become increasingly prevalent in the more highly populated, currently temperate zones. Have we come so far from our roots as a party that we are not the leaders in speaking out? * * -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 16 20:35:44 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:35:44 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Earth day Message-ID: <4765FCA0.9020802@sbcglobal.net> Mike Fischetti has raised the idea of an Earth Day event. Andrea Dorey has added the suggestion of a Public Service Announcement and or some video work. Let's flesh that out some more. And also consider that the local colleges and Universities have Earth Day events on their campuses. Events at which we have tabled at in the past Earth Day is Tuesday April 22-nd this year. Planning for it now is a great idea. Jim Doyle From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Dec 17 00:48:49 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:48:49 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] UN Climate Change Conference-Feinsteinon finalnegotiations In-Reply-To: <4765590E.1080009@charter.net> References: <47635629.7030909@charter.net> <4764E88E.20102@aceweb.com> <4765590E.1080009@charter.net> Message-ID: <476637F1.6060507@aceweb.com> Wes Rolley wrote: > Tian Harter wrote: >> According to the site in the URL at the end of that video, they did >> reach some sort of agreement in the end: >> >> http://unfccc.int/2860.php >> > Everyone will call this a victory, but if it is, it is a very hollow > one. It was an agreement to continue talking for another two year and > to reach some sort of actionable plan before 2010,. To my way of thinking they are waiting for a story to come along that makes everybody happy. Contrast that with the grass roots activists in Palo Alto. I was at a meeting led by one of them who said "we don't have time to wait for an agreement from Washington or Sacramento. We need to be developing change here." That's still the attitude that makes sense to me. Maybe the delegates are just looking forward to another trip to some exotic place where the next round of negotiations. I would if I was from some cold miserable place and the negotiations were somewhere like Bali. > > That is two years in which we will have continued to build up the > surplus of Green House Gases. > That is two years in which US Government can swathe it's inaction and > play Alphonse / Gaston with China. > That is two years in which the lack of American Action will increase the > enmity that we have engendered throughout the world. Don't forget, if we get our leadership from people preaching the gospel of stop shopping/driving/consuming instead of the corporate icons we will be part of the solution instead of mere consumer drones. As the old saying goes, "the revolution will not be televised!" > That is two years in which even a change in Administration, e.g. to a > Clinton Compromiser or an Obama Dreamer, will continue to tringulate > deals that allow multi-national corporations to continue screwing the > planet or to move their operations to countries whose government > regulators are more easily bribed. Yabut the Bill of Rights only goes to our national border. Everything that happens offshore (except in Hawaii) is governed by someone elses law. Our challenge is to make green values a better tool for the rest of the world than corporate capitalism. When I think of all the "race to the bottom" stories I've heard it can't be that hard. > > I would suggest that everyone browse through the blog entries that > Andrew Revikin has called for on his Dot Earth blog at the NY Times. > Voices on Bali and Beyond > > is a collection of comments from people who were actually there. Here > is a quote from the first responder, Dr. Thomas J. Goreau, the delegate > from Jamaica, and representative of a Coalition of Caribbean nations: > His target was the EU for its failure to stand up to the US stalling > tactics. The only problem is that I don't visit websites where the general public is invited. They require you to accept cookies, which I don't. They also require you to register, which I don't want to do. I'm hoping that if there is something really important there someone will share it around. > >> This amounts to a real betrayal of all those who counted on the EU to >> do the right thing, and amounts to a *capital crime against the >> environment,* because millions will die as the result of unchecked >> global warming. > If there is a single issue that the Green Party needs to be very clear > about, it is the one of Climate Change. What we do now, not what we > begin to do in 2010 will have an effect on: > - agricultural policy a swarming weather makes major changes to what can > be grown where and how much food might each country have to import or be > able to export as a result. > - trade policies as competition for declining reserves of food and > water, the basic essentials of life, make countries increasingly > protectionist. > - energy policy unless we take aggressive steps to get off of fossil fuels. > - security as increased frustration with US arrogance sends an > increasing flow of people towards Al Qaeda or other organizations. > - health care as diseases once considered tropical become increasingly > prevalent in the more highly populated, currently temperate zones. > > Have we come so far from our roots as a party that we are not the > leaders in speaking out? * > * > I'm doing what I can, and I see you are to. :-) -- Tian http://tian.greens.org I came home from SVBC's party with a Fat Tire Beer flat tire repair kit for my bicycle, a volunteer mug, and some really groovy reflective tape. From JamBoi at Greens.org Mon Dec 17 09:35:43 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:35:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] More than 70, 000 support impeach hearings for Cheney in just a few days Message-ID: <3182.38.99.84.36.1197912943.squirrel@greens.org> To add your endorsement go to http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/ Total so far: 76,413 Democracy Now: Rep. Wexler Leads New Effort to Impeach Cheney http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/17/headlines In news from Washington, calls are increasing for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney. Three Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee Robert Wexler of Florida, Luis Gutierrez of Illinois and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin have called on committee chair John Conyers to begin impeachment hearings. Robert Wexler said the charges against the Vice President are too serious to ignore. Since last week, 70,000 people have signed a petition on Robert Wexler?s website supporting impeachment hearings. { http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/ } >From yesterday: We Did It! 50,000 signatures calling for immediate Cheney impeachment hearings collected in 1 day! http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29386 Baldwin puts Cheney ouster on the table http://www.madison.com/tct/news/262394 From JamBoi at Greens.org Mon Dec 17 11:40:29 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:40:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Report on a Jared Ball campaign event in NorCal Message-ID: <1504.38.99.84.36.1197920429.squirrel@greens.org> http://www.jaredball.com/?p=36 Potential Green Party nominee visits HSU by Cerena Johnson, 12/12/2007 The Eureka Reporter, California Green Party presidential hopeful Jared Ball visited Humboldt State University Wednesday to deliver a message in a distinctive political style. Accompanied by ?mayor of DC hip-hop? artist Head-Roc, local poets and speakers, Ball emphasized issues that he said are largely unaddressed in society. ?We?re using hip-hop as the delivery vehicle to get to the people of culture,? Head Roc said, to get people in different communities interested and participating. ?We?re trying to erase a lot of the negative stereotypes,? Head-Roc said. Ball said by using hip-hop style, he is trying to reach out to the communities who are most disenfranchised. ?We want to help build the Green Party,? he said, and ?help re-center the discussion.? He lists among his campaign issues a redistribution of wealth in order to approach problems such as poverty and access to health care. The top 1 percent of Americans are wealthier than 90 percent of the population, he said. Ball also offered the example of the prison industrial complex, in which 80 percent of prisoners are non-violent offenders, and said issues such as police brutality need to be addressed. ?If we address how we treat people here, it would have a direct effect on what we do overseas,? he said. Ball said he is running his campaign based on the influence of the goals of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Ball is an assistant professor of communications studies at Morgan State University in Baltimore, Md. Ball is also an independent journalist; a radio host with WPFW 89.3 FM Pacifica Radio in Washington, D.C.; the editor of Words, Beats and Life Global Journal of Hip-Hop Culture; founder of FreeMix Radio: The Original Mixtape Radio Show; and a veteran of Desert Shield/Desert Storm. From JamBoi at Greens.org Mon Dec 17 15:52:10 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:52:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cynthia McKinney Announces Campaign for President Message-ID: <2839.38.99.84.36.1197935530.squirrel@greens.org> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:47:58 -0800 (PST) From: hesco at greens.org (Hugh Esco) Subject: [usgp-dx] Cynthia McKinney Announces Campaign for President To: natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org NEWS RELEASE For immediate release: December 16, 2007 Contact: media-requests at runcynthiarun.org Cynthia McKinney Announces Presidential Campaign Video News Release Available Today at 6 PM Cynthia McKinney, a former six-term Congresswoman and an outspoken opponent of the war in Iraq, today officially launched her campaign as a Green Party candidate for President. In a video news release, McKinney says "the Republicans have deceived us; the Democrats have failed us. It is time for a new beginning: A time for hope to rise from the ashes of despair." McKinney, a former Democrat from Georgia, was one of only three members of Congress to vote "yes" on a House Resolution in 2005 calling for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. One of her last acts in office was introducing Articles of Impeachment naming George Bush, Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice. According to McKinney: "It is time to break the vicious cycle where the poor go to war and veterans come home wounded and ignored." McKinney supports universal, single-payer health care; fair trade; and has been an unrelenting advocate for Hurricane Katrina survivors. No stranger to controversy and unafraid of speaking truth to power, McKinney has demanded that the Bush Administration tell the American people what the Administration knew about the events leading up to 9/11 and when they knew it. McKinney's announcement ends months of speculation about her plans. McKinney has been traveling constantly and meeting with Green Party members and other activists across the country who have been encouraging her to seek the Presidency. More information about McKinney's campaign including a copy of her video statement, are available by linking to: http://www.runcynthiarun.org/ -30- Members of the media are urged to request a copy of the high resolution version of this VNR, suitable for broadcast and cablecast at: http://media.runcynthiarun.org/vnr_request.cgi From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Dec 17 20:59:35 2007 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:59:35 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SC-SM] draft of bylaw re regional rep election Message-ID: In a message dated 12/15/2007 9:40:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, sanda at greens.org writes: I have another question-- I would think that if another county party joins our region, they would be expected to accept the by-laws that exist at that point. Is my logic fuzzy, or does logic have nothing to do with it? Has this been in previous drafts and I just did not notice it before? Each County GP has their own bylaws... If the regions in place are going to be changed, that will require a GPCA Bylaws revision. How likely is that? What additional county did you have in mind? Warner **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Dec 17 21:07:40 2007 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:07:40 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Second Call for Volunteers to Phone Green Voters for Save BAREC Message-ID: Folks! Now that we are past the visit from the Jared Ball campaign, I am again asking for volunteers to call City of Santa Clara Green Party members to ask them to help with the Save BAREC No on Measures A & B campaign. I previously posted a phone script. About five folks volunteered for this at the last monthly GPSCC meeting. I have a list of about 300 names and info for contacting Santa Clara Greens. This is an opportunity to check that list for bad info and contact folks not only about referenda, but also about our GP presidential primary. Let me know how many names you can take and I can send you the assignments by email. Warner **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Tue Dec 18 10:32:06 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:32:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Video announcment of Cynthia McKinney's Green presidential run Message-ID: <2317.38.99.84.36.1198002726.squirrel@greens.org> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cOM9r51Nw From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 18 12:15:44 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:15:44 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda for January 3 2008 Message-ID: <47682A70.9020402@sbcglobal.net> Holiday shopping done? Still in town? Please submit your suggestions for the agenda of the general meeting of Thursday January 3 2008. From JamBoi at Greens.org Tue Dec 18 18:45:08 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:45:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Ralph Nader interview and a misinterpretation of what he said Message-ID: <1147.38.99.84.36.1198032308.squirrel@greens.org> Ralph Nader interview: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22302093#22302093 No transcript found. Note that a poster on DemocraticUnderground.com misinterpreted RN's responses as being 'I won't run if Edwards is the nominee, but will if Obama is', http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x77200 but if you listen to the interview Nader doesn't say that. He just says Edwards is the most progressive front running Dem candidate in a long time. At the end of the interview Matthews asks Nader if he would join in a 'Democratic coalition' if Obama is the nominee and Nader says no because Obama 'doesn't have the agenda'... if Edwards wins the nomination and if Edwards doesn't back down on the progressive agenda... (he doesn't really finish the thought, so its hard to extrapolate exactly what he meant by his answer in relationship to Matthew's question. It wouldn't be accurate to assume as some did that he was saying he wouldn't run if Edwards was the Dem nominee). RN also critiques Obama's lack of criticism for corporate power and says Obama's taken himself out of consideration for progressives because he "doesn't have the agenda" There's a lot of discussion about 'vote splitting' 'robed elections', 'vote shaving' and Nader comes back fairly effectively against Matthews, saying that researchers have shown that Nader and the Green campaign actually raised Gore's vote total by pushing Gore to more progressive and more popular positions. From JamBoi at Greens.org Tue Dec 18 19:10:31 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:10:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Ralph Nader interview transcript Message-ID: <1360.38.99.84.36.1198033831.squirrel@greens.org> Ralph Nader interview video: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22302093#22302093 Transcript: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22311746/ MATTHEWS: Then Ralph Nader. A new documentary, ?An Unreasonable Man,? tracks his life and political career. So what?s he planning for ?08? {...} Coming up, the man some say is responsible for the election of George W. Bush. In fact, a lot of people say it. Ralph Nader is coming here. {...} MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL. That was a clip (SIC) from a new documentary called ?An Unreasonable??wait a minute. That wasn?t?anyway (INAUDIBLE) political career of former presidential candidate Ralph Nader airing tomorrow on PBS. Ralph Nader?s here to talk about his role in the 2008 race. Nader is also the author of ?The 17 Traditions.? I have to ask you about your book, first of all. RALPH NADER, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Yes. You owe an apology to my mother, wherever she is, bless her soul. You said in ?04 that she never gave us sweets when we were growing up. This is 17 ways my mom and dad raised their four children in a factory town in Connecticut in the Depression and World War II. And it?s extremely valuable for parents today with young children. It?s the only book I have ever written that everybody loves. MATTHEWS: So, you are giving advice now about raising kids? NADER: No. I am just a scribe for my parents... MATTHEWS: OK. NADER: ... who had very good judgment. You should do it for your son, too. MATTHEWS: I like all parental advice. (LAUGHTER) MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about political advice. You are a man of the progressive spectrum. Is there anybody in this campaign you like the looks of that can win, so that you wouldn?t... NADER: Well... MATTHEWS: ... have to run? Like, for example?let me run through them?do you like Barack Obama? Do you like John Edwards? I assume you like some things about Kucinich. But about those two front-running candidates, could you support either one of those guys? NADER: I do like Kucinich. But the front-runners, Edwards now has the most progressive message across a broad spectrum of corporate power damaging the interests of workers, consumers, taxpayers, of any candidate I have?leading candidate I have seen in years. MATTHEWS: well, he is with you, I mean, very pro-labor, wants labor reform, wants to get rid of Taft-Hartley, a lot of things, very much for the progressive line. What problem would you have with this guy at this point? Any? NADER: Well, let?s see if he wins. The key phrase is when he says he doesn?t want to replace a corporate Republican with a corporate Democrat. MATTHEWS: Yes. NADER: That?s very key. I mean, he raises the issue of the concentration of power and wealth in a few hands that are working against the interests of the vast majority of American people. The data, the documents are overwhelming in that respect. MATTHEWS: People aren?t used to this discussion of structural change since the ?60s. It?s unusual in American politics to be this clear and stark. (CROSSTALK) NADER: That?s right. That?s right. MATTHEWS: When you say corporate reform, or you say you don?t like the way the corporations dominate American life, politically, socially, economically, what is your main argument? NADER: The main argument is what 72 percent of the American people told ?Newsweek???BusinessWeek,? rather, in 2000, that corporations have too much control over their lives. That means they have control over their jobs. They can ship them abroad. They can give 47 million workers a non-living wage, one of every three workers. They can block any kind of health care of all Americans, which results in thousands of deaths every year who can?t afford health care, according to the Institute of Medicine. They can distort the public budget, huge military expenditures, half of the operating budget. MATTHEWS: So, what is the alternative to corporate power? NADER: Sovereignty of the people. It?s people taking back their government. It?s people cleaning up campaign corruption, making sure the votes are counted, putting public funding for public campaigns. It?s empowering workers to form more unions. It?s controlling Congress, 535 people, who put their shoes on every day, like you and me. They?re out of control, the majority. The Democrats have been caving in the last few months, again, on energy, on the war, on the food farm bill, on civil liberties. You can?t make a long enough list... (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: Why do labor?let me ask you about big labor. (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: When you and I were growing up, it was George (INAUDIBLE)... NADER: Yes. Yes. MATTHEWS: ... the guy with the big cigar. He would walk on the Hill, and everybody would light his cigar. NADER: Yes. MATTHEWS: What happened to the power of labor? Why did the corporations win all the big fights? NADER: Well... (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: Because you don?t hear of any big strikes anymore. The labor?we can live with the writers strike, but, in terms of big structure of American industry, nobody?nobody is ever striking. NADER: The laws in NLRB are very obstructive, more obstructive than any other Western country for workers forming unions. Then comes NAFTA, WTO that reduces or strips the workers of bargaining. MATTHEWS: By creating a global labor market and everything else. (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: ... all the resources. NADER: You guys in this factory in Louisiana, you want to start a union? We will be over the border. We will be in China in a few months. So... MATTHEWS: And that?s how it works? NADER: That?s how it works. And the other thing is... MATTHEWS: Well, what happens? You are tough on corporations. NADER: Yes. Yes. MATTHEWS: And that?s what you do. You are a reformer. But what happens when Chrysler?this is what I worry about?when the Chryslers sell their companies to Cerberus, to some equity company, that has absolutely no personal responsibility or corporate responsibility for workers? retirement, for the health care of an 80-year-old guy whose family worked three generations for a company making cars? (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: What happens when that happens? Won?t we wish we had the corporations back again? NADER: Yes. No. What it?well, actually, the private equity are stripping the shareholders and investors of any power over them. MATTHEWS: OK. (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: I have got to ask you. NADER: Yes. MATTHEWS: We talked about your book, ?Seventeen Traditions,? by Ralph Nader. It?s available in bookstores, right? NADER: Yes. MATTHEWS: OK. Let me ask you about politics. A lot of Democrats, not on the left, center-left, mainly, blame you for the last election, because your numbers were so damn high in Florida. You got almost 100,000 votes in Florida. You had success down there. You did promise beforehand you weren?t going to go into contested states, right? NADER: I didn?t. MATTHEWS: Didn?t you promise that? NADER: No. That?s what that movie will show you beyond any reasonable doubt... (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: You never promise that? NADER: No. What I said was, it?s a 50-state race. I wasn?t going to have any favorites. By the way, Gore won in Florida. Lots of people think Gore won in Florida, including reporters in your profession. MATTHEWS: Well, it smelled like that when I was down there before the election. NADER: Yes. MATTHEWS: But he didn?t get the numbers. NADER: Yes. And by pushing Gore to take more progressive policies, unlike what Lieberman wanted him to do... MATTHEWS: Yes? NADER: ... social scientists have concluded that the Green campaign got more votes for Gore than drew votes from him. MATTHEWS: By pulling him over to the left... NADER: Yes. Yes. MATTHEWS: ... you think you succeeded in making him more attractive to the middle? NADER: That?s been documented. Every time he went out after the oil, drug, insurance companies... MATTHEWS: Yes, he did a lot of that. He was trying to catch you. NADER: ... his polls?his polls went up. MATTHEWS: There?s no doubt. NADER: Yes. MATTHEWS: You were pulling around 9 percent. He got you down lower than that because he was pulling from the left, right? NADER: Yes. Yes. (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: I knew what he was doing. NADER: Yes. MATTHEWS: But a lot of people think that pulled him away from the center. NADER: That?s?no, no. Basically, it?s a false assessment of what happened in 2000. You repeated it again in the intro... MATTHEWS: Yes. NADER: ... which you should be ashamed of. MATTHEWS: No, no, I?m not ashamed of it, because the original draft was much tougher. NADER: The other thing is?the other thing is... MATTHEWS: What I?m saying is?I wrote, most people... NADER: Yes. MATTHEWS: ... obviously, many people?I?m talking, every time I talk to a real Democrat, in other words somebody who is really the kind of person who works for the Democratic Party, they blame you. They?re quite clear about it. (CROSSTALK) NADER: Yes. That?s because they don?t want any competition. They want a monopoly of liberal and progressive voters. What?s new, right? That?s the same thing that you see... (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: Well, then you are admitting you are splitting the vote. NADER: No, no, no. If they took the agenda?we have a Web site open, still, votenader.org, from ?04. You look at that agenda, and you ask yourself, wouldn?t the old Democrats have taken it away, and gotten more votes, living wage, full universal health care, restructuring of the tax system, giving more voice to ordinary folks? (CROSSTALK) NADER: They didn?t. And that?s the reason they lost. MATTHEWS: But, if you got robbed of an election, and you felt you had been robbed like Gore, and you saw a guy like you, as an attractive man of the left, and have gotten 100,000 votes in Florida, 20-some-thousand in New Hampshire, you would say, wait a minute. I got my votes shaved. This guy shaved me. He took off my percent. Look at these numbers. He took away my winning percentages. (CROSSTALK) NADER: What you are not looking at is a quarter of a million Democrats in Florida who voted for Bush. You are not looking at what Jeb Bush did with Kathleen (sic) Harris to steal the election. (CROSSTALK) NADER: By the way, ask Gore why he thinks he won the election and it was stolen from him/ (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: He may be more genteel about it. (CROSSTALK) NADER: We shouldn?t do that. We should have more voices and choices. (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: Is it possible that Ralph Nader will be part of the Democratic coalition come next summer, that it?s possible that the nominee is Barack Obama, for example? Is there a plausibility that you will be out there endorsing him come next November, if he were the nominee? (CROSSTALK) NADER: No... MATTHEWS: Barack? NADER: Because he doesn?t have the agenda. If Edwards wins, if he wins the whole nomination, and he doesn?t back off, as they do when they win the nomination... (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: He?s in contention for Green Party support? NADER: Well, the people in Iowa and New Hampshire have to ask themselves one question. Who is going to fight for them? MATTHEWS: You don?t think Barack has got it? (CROSSTALK) NADER: It?s enough that millions of voters vote for politicians who vote against their interests. We have got to get over that. This issue is about the voters. (CROSSTALK) MATTHEWS: I am amazed that you have now excluded Barack Obama from the progressive coalition. NADER: He has excluded himself by the statements he has made, unfortunately. He is a lot smarter than his public statements, which are extremely conciliatory to concentrated power and big business. MATTHEWS: OK. Thank you. The name of your book is ?The Seventeen Traditions.? It?s about? NADER: How my parents raised their four children. It?s very helpful to parents today. And, tomorrow, the movie. MATTHEWS: Good, the movie is called ?The Unreasonable Man???An Unreasonable Man.? And you have pride in that title? NADER: Well, it?s not my title. It?s not my movie. But it will motivate... MATTHEWS: Are you an unreasonable man? (LAUGHTER) NADER: It will motivate people to become more active. MATTHEWS: Thank you. Thank you, my?one of my heroes, Ralph Nader, despite what you have just seen. (LAUGHTER) {...} {Another mention of Nader's interview from later in the program} COOK: I think Edwards gives?listen to Ralph Nader. He gives the most unfiltered, liberal populist message in this race. MATTHEWS: He?s to the left of the other candidates? COOK: Absolutely. I think that maybe the key, is that, you know, duh, a guy running to the left in a Democratic caucus. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Dec 19 09:11:53 2007 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:11:53 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: SOS: FCC Votes for Big Media: Throw the Rules Out] Message-ID: <476950D9.50900@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: SOS: FCC Votes for Big Media: Throw the Rules Out Date: 19 Dec 2007 01:45:46 -0000 The Federal Communications Commission approved new rules that will unleash a flood of media consolidation across America. The new rules will further consolidate local media markets -- taking away independent voices in cities already woefully short on local news and investigative journalism. Congress has the power to throw out these rules -- and if 100,000 people demand it, they'll have to listen. Click on the link below to sign the open letter to Congress urging them to stop the FCC and stand with the public interest. http://action.freepress.net/campaign/sbmopenletter/ From fredd at freeshell.org Wed Dec 19 11:46:40 2007 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:46:40 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: SOS: FCC Votes for Big Media: Throw the Rules Out] Message-ID: <47697520.4010200@freeshell.org> A photo of Medea Benjamin protesting while being led out the FCC hearing room, is in today's SF Chron. Business Section. Fred FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: SOS: FCC Votes for Big Media: Throw the Rules Out Date: 19 Dec 2007 01:45:46 -0000 The Federal Communications Commission approved new rules that will unleash a flood of media consolidation across America. The new rules will further consolidate local media markets -- taking away independent voices in cities already woefully short on local news and investigative journalism. Congress has the power to throw out these rules -- and if 100,000 people demand it, they'll have to listen. Click on the link below to sign the open letter to Congress urging them to stop the FCC and stand with the public interest. http://action.freepress.net/campaign/sbmopenletter/ _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From andid at cagreens.org Wed Dec 19 12:26:28 2007 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:26:28 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. In-Reply-To: <20071210190516.9384.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20071210190516.9384.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: I think technological members should sign up with email addresses in order to save the environment and mailing costs for the GP. What do others think about this? Andrea On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:05 AM, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote: > >> From: WB4D23 at aol.com >> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:08:56 EST >> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> X-Mailer: [AOL] 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5044 >> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Permanent Absentee ballots. > >> In a message dated 12/8/2007 1:06:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> tnharter at aceweb.com writes: > >>> I'm thinking we should think about doing a mailing to the >>> membership in >>> January. If we can make an endorsement at the January meeting and >>> put >>> out a mailing by the middle of the month, maybe we can influence >>> how our >>> County votes. What do you guys think? > >> At last Thursday's general membership meeting, there was a >> consensus to do >> phone banking for GOTV. I don't think we would get consensus as >> to the >> presidential candidates, so no GPSCC endorsement is probably the >> better courts. >> Warner > > Discussion Thursday night was phonebanking for sure, but we don't have > the cash for a newsletter type mailing. Jim S wanted to do a > postcard. > I don't think they have much impact, but it's been a long time since > we've done one. > > > Cameron > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andi at wrytor.com Wed Dec 19 12:30:04 2007 From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:30:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Earth day In-Reply-To: <4765FCA0.9020802@sbcglobal.net> References: <4765FCA0.9020802@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Many campuses have video classes that students could get involved with and help produce an Earth Day PSA free to be played on public access possibly free. We could round up NGOs so that the GP doesn't have to pay as a political entity but just one of the signatories. Would this work and can we do it in time? Andrea On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:35 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Mike Fischetti has raised the idea of an Earth Day event. > Andrea Dorey has added the suggestion of a Public Service Announcement > and or some video work. > > Let's flesh that out some more. > And also consider that the local colleges and Universities have > Earth Day > events on their campuses. > Events at which we have tabled at in the past > > Earth Day is Tuesday April 22-nd this year. > Planning for it now is a great idea. > > Jim Doyle > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 12:34:33 2007 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:34:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Nader and other stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <594628.89427.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm surprised that people are STILL hung up about the 2000 elections. By focusing on Nader, the Democrats have yet again failed to address the real problems highlighted in 2000: the disenfranchisement of thousands of Floridian voters (predominately African-American) and the fact that the United States still does not allow its people to directly elect the head of state. How can we promote democracy abroad if we don't even practice democracy at home? On a completely unrelated note, if you know anybody who is under 30 and is a registered Green, we're trying to get the Youth Caucus going. We are looking for 100 members before we can approve bylaws, so if you can forward the following info to those interested, that'd be great! -Edward >>>E-MAIL TO SEND TO POTENTIAL GPUS YOUTH CAUCUS MEMBERS<<< Dear Green Party Youth Caucus supporter, I'm e-mailing because you have might be interested in joining the Youth Caucus of the Green Party of the United States. The caucus will represent Greens under the age of 30 in the national decision-making of the Green Party of the United States. Currently we are re-organizing a number of Greens to officially establish the caucus. As long as you are under the age of 30 and registered as a member of your state's Green Party or affiliate, you are eligible. If you would like to join, please reply to this message with a few pieces of information: Name: Mailing Address: Phone Number: Date of Birth: E-mail address, if you use another more frequently: We are also looking for people to provide a leadership role for the Youth Caucus by volunteering to serve on the caucus' Steering Committee or recruiting members from other groups you belong to, such as your state Green Party or campus Green organization. Please also let me know if you are interested in doing any of these things. Thank you for your time. If you decide to join the Youth Caucus, we will contact you soon about joining an e-mail list and contributing your ideas to Green Party Youth Caucus. Thanks, Brian Bittner brian at brianbittner.org P.S. Feel free to forward this e-mail to anyone who may be interested in joining, including listserves. For more information on the Green Party of the United States, visit www.gp.org. --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Wed Dec 19 13:24:44 2007 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:24:44 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] UN Climate Change Conference-Feinstein on finalnegotiations In-Reply-To: <4765590E.1080009@charter.net> References: <47635629.7030909@charter.net> <4764E88E.20102@aceweb.com> <4765590E.1080009@charter.net> Message-ID: A few facts that the gas and American car companies don't want you to know: Washington, D.C. is trying to hold in check California's Air Resources Board (CARB) in order to stop the do-it-now Plug-In movement picking up steam in California. Note that Plug-In Priuses are HERE and driving happily right NOW on California freeways wearing "100 mpg+" painted on their doors (two of them have been driving daily for more than two years!). These stock production cars from Toyota were easily made plug-in and could run 40 miles or more on ELECTRIC POWER ONLY. There's at least two different systems that I know of that were proposed and tested to make any Prius a plug-in car and at least one of the protocols has been offered to Toyota engineers. Their answer: screw around with a new Prius and you can lose your warranty on the car. ('Google' EAA-EV or CalCars or Plug in America, among many other sources for more info on plug-ins and electrics.) The only hold-up for the Prius Plug-In is Toyota, claiming that the batteries aren't good enough yet, the plug-in system hasn't been tested yet, blah, blah, blah. Don't let them get away with these outright lies, and the wedge issue of fuel cells which make what is basically an electric car less powerful and less efficient by adding another unnecessary energy source, be it hydrogen, gas, biofuels, etc. (The fuel cell issue was used by the car companies at CARB to stop the zero emissions standards in California and to rip the zippy, quiet little electric cars from the hands of their drivers.) BTW, IMHO the use of biofuels is particularly evil as it will raise the cost of corn, soy, and other foodstuffs for the poor. Why are they doing this to stop electrics and plug-ins? Think energy- (gas)-station delivery system. The necessary umbilical cord they need to keep you connected for their constant profits. If you can plug in your car into your house wiring during the night while you sleep... Oh, and of course, if the only maintenance needed is batteries, wiper blades, and tires... Did you know that most of the all-electric RAV-4s have hit over 100,000 miles (a few are at almost 150,000 miles) without any batteries being changed yet??? Andrea On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: > Tian Harter wrote: >> According to the site in the URL at the end of that video, they did >> reach some sort of agreement in the end: >> >> http://unfccc.int/2860.php >> > Everyone will call this a victory, but if it is, it is a very hollow > one. It was an agreement to continue talking for another two year and > to reach some sort of actionable plan before 2010,. > > That is two years in which we will have continued to build up the > surplus of Green House Gases. > That is two years in which US Government can swathe it's inaction and > play Alphonse / Gaston with China. > That is two years in which the lack of American Action will > increase the > enmity that we have engendered throughout the world. > That is two years in which even a change in Administration, e.g. to a > Clinton Compromiser or an Obama Dreamer, will continue to tringulate > deals that allow multi-national corporations to continue screwing the > planet or to move their operations to countries whose government > regulators are more easily bribed. > > I would suggest that everyone browse through the blog entries that > Andrew Revikin has called for on his Dot Earth blog at the NY Times. > Voices on Bali and Beyond > beyond/> > is a collection of comments from people who were actually there. Here > is a quote from the first responder, Dr. Thomas J. Goreau, the > delegate > from Jamaica, and representative of a Coalition of Caribbean nations: > His target was the EU for its failure to stand up to the US stalling > tactics. > >> This amounts to a real betrayal of all those who counted on the EU to >> do the right thing, and amounts to a *capital crime against the >> environment,* because millions will die as the result of unchecked >> global warming. > If there is a single issue that the Green Party needs to be very clear > about, it is the one of Climate Change. What we do now, not what we > begin to do in 2010 will have an effect on: > - agricultural policy a swarming weather makes major changes to > what can > be grown where and how much food might each country have to import > or be > able to export as a result. > - trade policies as competition for declining reserves of food and > water, the basic essentials of life, make countries increasingly > protectionist. > - energy policy unless we take aggressive steps to get off of > fossil fuels. > - security as increased frustration with US arrogance sends an > increasing flow of people towards Al Qaeda or other organizations. > - health care as diseases once considered tropical become increasingly > prevalent in the more highly populated, currently temperate zones. > > Have we come so far from our roots as a party that we are not the > leaders in speaking out? * > * > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you > don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Dec 19 15:27:43 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:27:43 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jared Ball and Elaine Brown send representatives to the GPSCC holiday party Message-ID: <4769A8EF.7070708@aceweb.com> Santa Clara County has now been visited by three of the Green Party's Presidential Primary Candidates. You can see what I saw of the latest two at: http://tian.greens.org/SantaClaraCounty/GreenParty/HolidayParty07/index.html I'm enjoying this competition. I'm seeing a variety of strategies, and a range of Candidates that are new to me! It looks like February 5th is going to be a more interesting day than I'm used to the Green Party giving me... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added pictures and commentary from the Santa Clara County Green Party Holiday party. It featured speakers from the Jared Ball and Elaine Brown Presidential Campaigns. From JamBoi at Greens.org Wed Dec 19 16:11:55 2007 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:11:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] AP Story on McKinney: Ex-Congresswoman Seeks Presidency Message-ID: <1953.38.99.84.36.1198109515.squirrel@greens.org> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jSLbnUoFiYy5_bc59gZ5dJX5HflAD8TKR05G0 Ex-Congresswoman Seeks Presidency By SHANNON McCAFFREY ? 10 minutes ago ATLANTA (AP) ? Former Democratic Rep. Cynthia McKinney, who was ousted from office last year after a headline-grabbing scuffle with a Capitol Hill police officer, has decided to seek the presidency ? as a Green Party candidate. In a video posted on the Internet on Tuesday, McKinney criticized the war in Iraq and complained about Democrats and Republicans, saying both parties are beholden to corrupt corporate interests. She called the Green Party "my new political home." McKinney, 52, registered to vote in California after a group called Run! Cynthia! Run! began drafting her as the Green Party's candidate there. Since then, she had made campaign appearances in Texas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota and Wisconsin. In the more than seven-minute video first posted on her Web site on Sunday, then on YouTube on Tuesday, McKinney had particularly harsh words for her former party. "The Democrats do not speak for us," she said. "The Democrats are no different than their Republican counterparts." McKinney served six terms representing a suburban Atlanta district but was defeated in 2006 by DeKalb County Commissioner Hank Johnson. She had been the first black woman elected to Congress from Georgia. One of her final acts in Congress was to introduce a bill to impeach President Bush, saying he misled Congress into approving the war in Iraq and violated the law by secretly spying on citizens. She once claimed Bush had been warned of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. McKinney is one of at least seven Green Party candidates for president. The party will select its presidential nominee at its July 10 convention in Chicago. From wrolley at charter.net Thu Dec 20 07:42:52 2007 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:42:52 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Another Candidate Visit? Message-ID: <476A8D7C.9040108@charter.net> Kent Mesplay asked me to help set up a meeting and possible press contacts for him in mid-January. As is being increasingly "rumored" there will be a Green Party Presidential Debate in the Bay Area on the weekend of Jan 12.13. I would assume that most, if not all, of the candidates will be here. (It will be interesting to see in Nader has tipped his hand by then... I would doubt it.) As part of that trip, Mesplay will stop in San Luis Obispo for a rally and a local radio station interview. He would like to do the same in the South Bay. I will start contacting media, but I would also like to know if there is someone else who can help with the logistics of a "get to know the candidate" meeting. I still don't have exact schedule in terms of specific times, but will let everyone know as soon as I find out. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Dec 21 09:48:00 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:48:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] fwd: Lifestyles of the green and Californian Message-ID: <476BFC50.3010402@aceweb.com> http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2007/12/17/hummers_or_hybrids/index.html Lifestyles of the green and Californian After poring over the evidence, UCLA's Matthew Kahn concludes that environmentalists practice what they preach. Should this come as a surprise? When first directed to Kahn's paper, published in the September issue of the Journal of Environmental Economics and Management, I was uncertain why anyone should care. Where I come from, Prius drivers abound, and everybody is nuts about recycling. But that's what one would expect from Berkeley. It seems only natural that environmentalists would make different choices about their consumption patterns than people of different political or philosophical bents. But it is one thing to know something anecdotally, and it is another to prove it empirically. And in a political environment where the charge of hypocrite is always waiting to be flung (as Al Gore learned all too well), it might be useful to say, well, actually, environmentalists do use less gasoline than "normal" people. There's also the fact, as Kahn notes, that "standard consumption theory focuses on income and relative prices as key determinants of choice." Maybe it's time to give ideology its due, too. Kahn's methods for investigating his thesis in "Do greens drive Hummers or hybrids? Environmental ideology as a determinant of consumer choice" are interesting in and of themselves, albeit convoluted. He determines whether a given community in California can be considered a hotbed of greenies by looking at the percentage of Green Party registered voters in that community. (California, he observes, has the most Green Party members of any state.) Then he cross-checks that indicator by comparing it to how the community votes on environmentally-themed ballot initiatives in California. Having established to his satisfaction that census tracts and voting precincts with relatively greater percentages of Green Party members are indeed brimming over with environmentalists, Kahn correlated that information with available data on gasoline consumption, car purchases, access to railway stations, and decided that yes, people who live in those communities are more likely to use public transit and drive hybrid cars. Such communities also feature denser clusters of stores that represent themselves as "green" in those neighborhoods. But not every hybrid is alike:. The Toyota Prius' predicted count vastly stands out. The average census tract's Prius predicted count increases from 2.2 to 46.2 as the Green Party share increases from 0 percent to 4 percent. For the other makes, the predicted increase in registration counts is tiny. For example, the Honda Civic Hybrid's predicted count increases from 0.51 to 1.61 when the share of Green Party voters increases. The huge "Prius" effect relative to other almost equally green vehicles suggests that the social interactions effect may dominate the private utility effect from not polluting. Through marketing and celebrity endorsements, the Prius is widely recognized as the "Green Car." Anticipating that their "Greenness" will be acknowledged when they drive this vehicle down their block may encourage households to buy this vehicle. Seems like it would be cheaper to just ride a bike. -- Andrew Leonard From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 21 21:59:28 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:59:28 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda for the new year Message-ID: <476CA7C0.2080900@sbcglobal.net> Holiday shopping done? Still in town? Please submit your suggestions for the agenda of the general meeting of Thursday January 3 2008. Especialy if they are related to your new year's resolutions. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 21 22:03:36 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:03:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Focus Message-ID: <476CA8B8.6040103@sbcglobal.net> Hugh Moore sent the following notice re the next issue of Green Focus. For us, the question is do we want any, and if so, who will pay for it? Dear Green Focus Supporters, For a short period the Green Focus did not get published so to be sure no one gets bundles they do not want I'm starting over. All previous orders will be dropped and we will start from today. Our next Green Focus newspaper will go to the printers within the next couple weeks. We will be shipping bundles of 150 each and must have orders by 12/31/07 in order to submit your requests. Each bundle is $25.00. The bundle price increase is a result in the increased production cost of the paper. Please reply to me with your request for how many bundles you need as soon as possible and include a shipping address for where the bundle(s) should be shipped and a billing address if different than the shipping address. Thank you very much. Peace, Hugh Moore 4674 Boundary Street San Diego, CA 92116-3206 hmpeace at cox.net 619-793-5397 For: Green Party of San Diego County 4406 Park Blvd., Suite D San Diego, CA 92116-4047 Phone: (619) 295-6000 From fredd at freeshell.org Mon Dec 24 16:58:54 2007 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:58:54 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Focus Message-ID: <477055CE.6030300@freeshell.org> I move we order two bundles, at least. Fred Hugh Moore sent the following notice re the next issue of Green Focus. For us, the question is do we want any, and if so, who will pay for it? Dear Green Focus Supporters, For a short period the Green Focus did not get published so to be sure no one gets bundles they do not want I'm starting over. All previous orders will be dropped and we will start from today. Our next Green Focus newspaper will go to the printers within the next couple weeks. We will be shipping bundles of 150 each and must have orders by 12/31/07 in order to submit your requests. Each bundle is $25.00. The bundle price increase is a result in the increased production cost of the paper. Please reply to me with your request for how many bundles you need as soon as possible and include a shipping address for where the bundle(s) should be shipped and a billing address if different than the shipping address. Thank you very much. Peace, Hugh Moore 4674 Boundary Street San Diego, CA 92116-3206 hmpeace at cox.net 619-793-5397 For: Green Party of San Diego County 4406 Park Blvd., Suite D San Diego, CA 92116-4047 Phone: (619) 295-6000 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Dec 24 21:14:37 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:14:37 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Focus In-Reply-To: <477055CE.6030300@freeshell.org> References: <477055CE.6030300@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <477091BD.9030909@aceweb.com> I want to post an affirmation. At least two bundles will be easy to give away! Fred Duperrault wrote: > I move we order two bundles, at least. > > Fred > > Hugh Moore sent the following notice re the next issue of Green Focus. > > For us, the question is do we want any, and if so, who will pay for it? > > Dear Green Focus Supporters, > > For a short period the Green Focus did not get published so to be sure no > one gets bundles they do not want I'm starting over. All previous orders > will be dropped and we will start from today. > > Our next Green Focus newspaper will go to the printers within the next > couple weeks. > > We will be shipping bundles of 150 each and must have orders by 12/31/07 in > order to submit your requests. Each bundle is $25.00. > > The bundle price increase is a result in the increased production cost of > the paper. > > Please reply to me with your request for how many bundles you need as soon > as possible and include a shipping address for where the bundle(s) should be > shipped and a billing address if different than the shipping address. > > Thank you very much. > > Peace, > > Hugh Moore > 4674 Boundary Street > San Diego, CA 92116-3206 > hmpeace at cox.net > 619-793-5397 > > > For: Green Party of San Diego County > 4406 Park Blvd., Suite D > San Diego, CA 92116-4047 > Phone: (619) 295-6000 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added pictures and commentary from the Santa Clara County Green Party Holiday party. It featured speakers from the Jared Ball and Elaine Brown Presidential Campaigns. From jims at greens.org Wed Dec 26 18:40:13 2007 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:40:13 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] California Greens should be running for the state legislature in 2008] Message-ID: <4773108D.8020303@greens.org> Forwarded with permission. Regardless of what you think of Mike F in general, he does have some noteworthy ideas. Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] California Greens should be running for the state legislature in 2008 Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:10:29 -0800 From: Mike Feinstein Reply-To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org To: GPCA-CCWG Listserv Dear all As many of you know, I've been reciting the mantra for the last two election cycles, that to begin to appear more relevant in California partisan politics, Califonria Greens should focus primarily on State Assembly and State Senate races, and run on a common platform to address the state's structural deficit, including with an approach to reform Prop 13 and relate land use and tax policy. Exhibit 1A below discusses the political window open to us on these issues. It would be major step forward if we ran at least 20 Assembly races (preferably at least 40) and five to ten senate races. Please some of you in your local areas, step forward and find good candidates to seize this opportunity. http://www.sacbee.com/111/v-print/story/589023.html Analysis: Budget faced realism deficit Governor repeatedly said problem was solved, but structural shortfall persists. By Kevin Yamamura - kyamamura at sacbee.com Published 12:00 am PST Monday, December 24, 2007 Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger won re-election in 2006 by selling himself as a problem solver who boosted California's economy and resolved the state's budget problems, all without new taxes. The Republican governor declared in January that "through discipline and through new revenues that come from economic growth, we reduced the deficit over time and got our fiscal house in order." But less than a year into his second term, the narrative has run dry. An estimated $14 billion deficit looms, the state's housing market has become an economic drag and Schwarzenegger can no longer count on a tax windfall to cover the spending increases he has approved since taking office. Schwarzenegger is proposing an average 10 percent spending cut across the board, while Democratic leaders want a mix of cuts and new taxes. The governor admitted Wednesday, "This state has had problems with the budget ever since I have gotten here," even suggesting the process is beyond anyone's control. "I think the problems were deeper and more structural than the governor realized when he was first elected," said Jean Ross, executive director of the California Budget Project, which advocates for poor and middle-class families. "There is a fundamental imbalance between revenues and expenditures," Ross added. "Many budgets that were signed into law, including those signed by the current governor, made the problems worse, not better." Throughout his time in office, Schwarzenegger has characterized his budgets as disciplined enough to avoid the deficit problems of California's past. He has suggested that his own anti-tax policies led to California's growing economy and thus a boom in state revenues. Budget experts say the governor has ridden the crest of the state's good economic fortunes and now will be at the mercy of its impending fiscal slowdown. They say he has done little more than his predecessors, including the recalled Gov. Gray Davis, to change the state's structural budget problems, which range from too much formulaic spending to single-year budgeting. "He fell into the same trap that governors and legislators have always fallen into, which is to say, 'Boy, if you have enough revenues from the prior year, don't sweat it,' " said Fred Silva, a former legislative budget director who now works for the fiscal forecasting firm Beacon Economics. When Schwarzenegger ran for governor in 2003, he promised to "end the crazy deficit spending," a task he made sound as easy as conducting an audit and finding waste, according to his campaign commercials. The audit ? the governor's 2004 California Performance Review ? fell apart when multiple interest groups said recommended cuts would hurt the public. To bridge the budget gap he inherited, the governor that same year asked voters to approve $15 billion in bonds, which the state is still paying off. Another measure that passed, Proposition 58, prevented the state from using similar bonds to cover the deficit in the future. Schwarzenegger communications director Adam Mendelsohn said that ballot measure forces the state to cut spending responsibly rather than rely on more borrowing. "We are in a position right now where the state has to deal with the budget deficit head-on, in large part because of the changes he has made in the last four years," Mendelsohn said. He added that the governor "has been frustrated that you have this budget in Sacramento where revenues and spending have no relationship to one another." Under Schwarzenegger, the state's overall budget has increased 36 percent above Davis' most expensive year in 2002-03. That is nearly as much as the 42 percent increase during Davis' first term, a spending boost that resulted in a once-projected $34.6 billion deficit and sparked his recall in 2003. Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Thousand Oaks, said Schwarzenegger had plenty of opportunities to restrain spending in flush times in order to avoid the $14 billion deficit he now faces. "This was not an unforeseen crisis," McClintock said. "This is what the entire budget impasse was about last summer. The unfortunate thing was that last summer was the time to address this issue, and the governor was on the other side." McClintock, who ran against Schwarzenegger in the 2003 recall, said he told the governor at a January caucus dinner that he was "on the same fiscal trajectory that wrecked the budget under Gray Davis." The senator said the governor told him he was simply being a pessimist and "people don't want to hear bad news." Schwarzenegger in 2005 pursued an initiative to give the Governor's Office more power to unilaterally cut spending and weaken the Proposition 98 spending guarantee for K-14 schools, which accounts for roughly 43 percent of the general fund budget, according to the Department of Finance. But the governor came under attack from educators, nurses and other groups, and suffered a political setback right before his re-election year. Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata, D-Oakland, also has called for structural changes in budget-making, but nothing has occurred so far. When he suggested in 2005 that the Proposition 98 schools guarantee should be re-examined, the California Teachers Association posted signs in his district questioning his position. "Part of why it's hard to get structural reform is that it challenges the status quo," said Tim Gage, a former Department of Finance director for Davis. "People are uncertain what the change would bring ? or it would disadvantage their interests." Fresh off his election victory in 2006, the governor declared last November on national television that he was going to eliminate the structural budget deficit by 2009-10. He said elsewhere that the state's newly passed infrastructure bonds would stimulate the economy so much "that we are going to solve those problems and lower the structural deficit and eventually wipe it out." Schwarzenegger earlier this year declared that his administration had "made tremendous progress" because he reduced the structural deficit from a projected $16.5 billion to $1.4 billion. He said that "we did it by growing our economy and exercising spending restraint." The $16.5 billion figure was what his first finance director, Donna Arduin, projected the state would face in 2006-07 if spending continued at the same pace in 2004. The governor now faces a $14 billion deficit, only $2.5 billion less than his oft-used budget benchmark. "People love his sense of optimism and sense of bravado, but it's absolutely what keeps getting him in trouble," said Kevin Gordon, a consultant on education budget issues. "He says things, but then reality undermines the situation. ? I'm sorry, but the budget was never balanced, and it's always been subject to the ups and downs of the economy." Schwarzenegger lately seems to have toned down the budget boasting he did for the past five years. The governor, speaking Wednesday in San Diego, called the $14 billion deficit "a temporary problem." He then went on to suggest that the budget process has remained the same over the past 40 years and that the system was to blame, not the governor or legislators. That remark stood in sharp contrast to statements he made before he was governor, when he blamed the budget problems squarely on Davis. "And you know why nothing has changed?" he said. "Because the system itself is flawed, the budget system. It's not that there's anyone in Sacramento that is making the wrong decision. There is no one in Sacramento making the wrong move or doing something bad. This has been created by itself, because the system is flawed." _______________________________________________ gpca-ccwg mailing list gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 27 12:35:25 2007 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:35:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] statewide candidates Message-ID: <47740C8D.8090406@sbcglobal.net> ... Please some of you in your local areas, step forward and find good candidates to seize this opportunity. ... How does one do that?? From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Dec 27 17:43:07 2007 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:43:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] statewide candidates In-Reply-To: <47740C8D.8090406@sbcglobal.net> References: <47740C8D.8090406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <477454AB.4060608@aceweb.com> Step 1: get a list of Registered Greens in the area. Step 2: go through the list looking for names that are publicly known. Step 3: go through the list created in step 2 and ask all of them to run for office. Step 4: Help the ones that say yes in step 3 campaign as if your life depended on it. Step 5: Show up at the election night party and have a good time! Jim Doyle wrote: > ... > Please some of you in your local areas, step forward and find good > candidates to seize this opportunity. > ... > How does one do that?? > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Happy holidays! I wish you and yours all the best for the new year! From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 22:42:38 2007 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:42:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] CA Greens should be running for the state legislature in 2008 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <928859.23992.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> What's the deal with State Senator Abel Maldonado's district? There was one person (whose name I forgot) that said he was running as a Green in 2008 in this district, but I have not heard anything from him or anyone else since. By anyone else, I mean from the Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Monterey, or SLO Greens. -edward --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They will be shipped to Cameron and the bill will go to Cameron. Jim Doyle From alexcathy at aol.com Sat Dec 29 08:14:16 2007 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 11:14:16 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Elaine Brown Couldn't Stand the Heat; Got Out of the Kitchen Message-ID: <8CA184CFE7E970B-DF0-2D22@FWM-D35.sysops.aol.com> ? Brown Couldn't Stand the Heat; Got Out of the Kitchen Harry Truman said: ?If you can?t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.? After a brief, tumultuous campaign, Brown decided to ?get out of the kitchen? before so much as a single primary vote had been cast. This is the person praised most often by supporters for having been chairperson of the Black Panther Party thirty years ago, and presumably, a real ?tough guy? candidate. Nothing demonstrates Ms. Brown?s unfitness for the campaign as her leaving it. I am disappointed Elaine withdrew. But before we break out our handkerchiefs and jerk our knees over the scourge of white "neo-liberal men" let?s recapitulate some things that have been said about nationally prominent Greens. Eric Alterman on Ralph Nader: ?...Thank you, Ralph, for the Iraq war. Thank you, Ralph, for the tax cuts. Thank you, Ralph, for the destruction of the environment. Thank you, Ralph, for the destruction of the Constitution." Marc Cooper on Peter Camejo: ?Nader nevertheless tapped Peter Camejo, a Green Party honcho with an exclusively leftist appeal, as his VP choice today... a dusty fixture on the radical left for literally decades. Back in the sixties, Camejo ran for president on the ticket of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party..." Marc Cooper on Cynthia McKinney: ?You?ll recall that during her six terms as Democratic congresswoman from Atlanta, a post from which she was ousted a second time in 2006, she staged several similar outbursts? It was her bizarre public behavior and outrageous political positions more than her shady ethics that finally eroded her support. Apart from taking a haymaker swing at a Capitol Hill cop and beyond her solicitation of $10 million in social contributions from a Saudi prince, she was one of the first high-profile adherents of the official wack-job '9/11 Truth' movement, directly implicating the U.S. government in the staging of the attack on the Twin Towers?? Joan Walsh on Matt Gonzalez: ? 'Thank you for supporting a racist liar tonight!' That's what groovy young Matt Gonzalez supporters, all but one of them white and well-pierced, shouted at a multiracial crowd of Gavin Newsom backers Monday night, when former President Clinton came to San Francisco to endorse the embattled Democratic candidate for mayor over his Green Party challenger. Nobody bothered to explain why Newsom was a racist, or a liar. It was the Gonzalez campaign in a sound bite: Sanctimony over substance, personality over policy, and a good time was had by all of his supporters -- a helluva good time! -- as they vilified the opposition without offering an agenda for change of their own?? Thick Skin ? A Green Party Prerequisite This is my point. Reactionaries have already tried to say Barack Obama attends a ?hate whitey? church in Chicago, that Barack Hussein Obama is an Islamic terrorist, and that Brother Barack is a cokehead. Why should anyone think a Green Party campaign is going to be a Sunday church picnic? You need a thick skin to run as a Green for a high profile office in this country. Then there was this big brouhaha over a letter by Green Party political director Brent McMillen in which he denounced Brown as "paranoid delusional and is also a late stage alcoholic" The letter was outrageous, but so what? Elaine should have laughed it off the way Dennis Kucinich laughed off that talk that he was a "nut" for sighting a U.F.O. If the Green Party "hierarchy" is entrenched, well then, that's why we have primary elections in this country. This, frankly, trivial incident is a walking-talking poster for my argument against ?People of Color? caucuses. It completely dominated discussion on the Green Party Black Caucus list serve for days and eventually worked into yet another anti-Green ?hit piece? on Alex Cockburns?s CounterPunch web site. Again, I see no evidence that within the Green Party ?some in the hierarchy seemed utterly fearful of the prospect of a massive influx of blacks and browns into the Green Party? and I'm getting tired of people saying this. Alas, the perpetual "victim" narrative has won applause for forty years wherever the cynical, poisonous blend of Democratic Party Machine ?liberalism? and ?Black Power? pseudo-radicalism holds sway. Only aging radicals "stuck in the Sixties" think Black Panther credentials is a big plus. The sad truth is that it is actually a "high negative" because in their last days the Panthers were not much more than just another drug-addled, gun-slinging street gang. The constant association of Elaine's own supporters with this era of COINTELPRO, gangsterismm and counter-gangsterism actually obscured her many good qualities. Excited about the idea of an African-American candidate? Dr. Jared Ball and Cynthia McKinney are excellent choices. Read and Leave a Comment at: ? http://www.greencommons.org/node/902#comment-2827 ? ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Sun Dec 30 07:01:30 2007 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:01:30 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Diane White's Post on Elaine Brown In-Reply-To: <013001c84a68$d244d640$6401a8c0@DLIGHT> References: <8CA184CFE7E970B-DF0-2D22@FWM-D35.sysops.aol.com> <013001c84a68$d244d640$6401a8c0@DLIGHT> Message-ID: <8CA190BFE8C99A3-1120-3077@MBLK-M08.sysops.aol.com> Dear Diane, Your comment on my post about Elaine Brown was in the "moderated comments" queue for awhile.? It has been posted on Green Commons today.? I appreciate your comment.? This is the kind of debate I wanted to stimulate with my forthcoming op-ed in Green Focus: A Debate: Do Greens Need a 'People of Color' Caucus? It's good some comrades have never lose their sense of outrage even after years of struggle that cause some progressives to "burn out."? If I ever do run for a high profile office as a Green, I hope to have supporters as passionate as you.? Peace, Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? = Posted on Green Commons, Saturday, December 29, 2007 Uncle Tom's Cabin Submitted by Diane F White Elaine Brown left because it is the Green Party leadership and those who support their unethical, hypocritical behavior that are not committed to the 10 Key Values. As for not being able take the heat. Get real. She has taken more hit than everybody listed combined. She has stood in the path of bullets and watched her friends get murdered. It's this party that can't take the heat. It's a political director who wants security in the office because he's afraid that a black man might come in. All those who sit here and condone what Brent did are just as guilty as Brent, be they black or white. There is a story told about the house slaves who when "massa got sick, walked around saying, "we's" sick. When the house was burning they would be more interested in saving "massa" and "missy ann" than saving themselves. Elaine Brown is not one of those "house nigga's" and the people that she would be bringing into the Green Party would not be house nigga's either. So all those who say they don't see why the Green Party is viewed as just another arm of the racist system that has been oppressing us all are either blind or a part of perpetuating the institutional racism for their own personal gains, be they black or white. As a matter of fact, Elaine has done more for the "grassroots" by exposing the hypocrisy of this party by leaving it than by co-signing the lies being perpetuated. And there plenty of us left here who will continue to take the heat because she doesn't have to. We are the grassroots, she is our leader and that will not change whether she is a member of this party or not. The people who follow her leadership and have heard her message will continue to carry it forward whether she is a member of this party or not. It's still our party too, and we will continue to apply the heat. For those who can't take the heat, they can get out. We stay, because we will continue the struggle. The sad part is that the "Willie Lynch" game continues, regardless (And nobody is interested in hearing the bullshit about Willie Lynch being a myth, myth or no myth the concept plays itself out everyday, right here in this party, so spare us the patronizing attempt to gain favor, no dog will bite the hand that feeds em. This is the most important election in the history of this country. The Green Party sets the stage for the blacks to fight for the crumbs off the table, while they walk away with the whole cake and eat too. This party will turn on Cynthia McKinney the same way they turned on Ralph Nader, Peter Camejo, Donna Warren and Elaine Brown and Jonathan Farley or any other person of color who asserts themselves in the call for social justice. And when was the last time this party even had a conversation about the 10 key values for real? They are refer to as a side note, when half the people who refer to them don't even know what they are, let alone how to put them in practice. Or they will pick one to be concerned about one and ignore the others. Bring up a conversation about reparations and see how many Greens will cry bloody murder, and there are some blacks that will scream louder than the white folks. They don't want to give up their comfortable positions in the "big house" or they don't want to stop getting money from these people for their 501c3's. To the oppressed, poor, black, brown disenfranchised of the world these people are called "sell outs". And there are plenty of sell-outs among the few people of color who are members of the the Green Party. You know who they are because they run around saying, "massa they's trying to start a revolution", want I's to get em fo ya. ? ? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? = Posted on Green Commons, Saturday, December 29, 2007 Uncle Tom's Cabin Submitted by Diane F White Elaine Brown left because it is the Green Party leadership and those who support their unethical, hypocritical behavior that are not committed to the 10 Key Values. As for not being able take the heat. Get real. She has taken more hit than everybody listed combined. She has stood in the path of bullets and watched her friends get murdered. It's this party that can't take the heat. It's a political director who wants security in the office because he's afraid that a black man might come in. All those who sit here and condone what Brent did are just as guilty as Brent, be they black or white. There is a story told about the house slaves who when "massa got sick, walked around saying, "we's" sick. When the house was burning they would be more interested in saving "massa" and "missy ann" than saving themselves. Elaine Brown is not one of those "house nigga's" and the people that she would be bringing into the Green Party would not be house nigga's either. So all those who say they don't see why the Green Party is viewed as just another arm of the racist system that has been oppressing us all are either blind or a part of perpetuating the institutional racism for their own personal gains, be they black or white. As a matter of fact, Elaine has done more for the "grassroots" by exposing the hypocrisy of this party by leaving it than by co-signing the lies being perpetuated. And there plenty of us left here who will continue to take the heat because she doesn't have to. We are the grassroots, she is our leader and that will not change whether she is a member of this party or not. The people who follow her leadership and have heard her message will continue to carry it forward whether she is a member of this party or not. It's still our party too, and we will continue to apply the heat. For those who can't take the heat, they can get out. We stay, because we will continue the struggle. The sad part is that the "Willie Lynch" game continues, regardless (And nobody is interested in hearing the bullshit about Willie Lynch being a myth, myth or no myth the concept plays itself out everyday, right here in this party, so spare us the patronizing attempt to gain favor, no dog will bite the hand that feeds em. This is the most important election in the history of this country. The Green Party sets the stage for the blacks to fight for the crumbs off the table, while they walk away with the whole cake and eat too. This party will turn on Cynthia McKinney the same way they turned on Ralph Nader, Peter Camejo, Donna Warren and Elaine Brown and Jonathan Farley or any other person of color who asserts themselves in the call for social justice. And when was the last time this party even had a conversation about the 10 key values for real? They are refer to as a side note, when half the people who refer to them don't even know what they are, let alone how to put them in practice. Or they will pick one to be concerned about one and ignore the others. Bring up a conversation about reparations and see how many Greens will cry bloody murder, and there are some blacks that will scream louder than the white folks. They don't want to give up their comfortable positions in the "big house" or they don't want to stop getting money from these people for their 501c3's. To the oppressed, poor, black, brown disenfranchised of the world these people are called "sell outs". And there are plenty of sell-outs among the few people of color who are members of the the Green Party. You know who they are because they run around saying, "massa they's trying to start a revolution", want I's to get em fo ya. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =? Leave a Comment on The Green Commons Web Site at: http://www.greencommons.org/node/902#comment-2836 Also Leave Comments on my Op-Ed at: A Debate: Do Greens Need a 'People of Color' Caucus? ( http://www.greencommons.org/node/870 ) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Dec 31 12:36:12 2007 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:36:12 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] CA Greens should be running for the state legislature i... Message-ID: In a message dated 12/27/2007 10:42:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_alliance47 at yahoo.com writes: What's the deal with State Senator Abel Maldonado's district? There was one person (whose name I forgot) that said he was running as a Green in 2008 in this district, but I have not heard anything from him or anyone else since. By anyone else, I mean from the Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Monterey, or SLO Greens. -edward Wes -- You wrote about what happened in 2006. Scott Kane, a long-time GPSCC member, attended a couple of our meetings in the last half of 2007. He was considering running for this State Senate position, but he is not currently a resident in that district and decided that his personal and financial circumstances made it impractical to proceed as a candidate. Warner **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Dec 31 12:44:12 2007 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:44:12 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] statewide candidates Message-ID: In a message dated 12/27/2007 5:41:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, tnharter at aceweb.com writes: Step 1: get a list of Registered Greens in the area. Step 2: go through the list looking for names that are publicly known. Step 3: go through the list created in step 2 and ask all of them to run for office. Step 4: Help the ones that say yes in step 3 campaign as if your life depended on it. Step 5: Show up at the election night party and have a good time! Jim Doyle wrote: > ... > Please some of you in your local areas, step forward and find good > candidates to seize this opportunity. > ... > How does one do that?? > There are no "statewide" candidates elections in 2008 (except U.S. President/Vice President). I agree with Michael Feinstein that we need to encourage and recruit State Assembly candidates -- i.e., duirng the last six months. The candidate filing and signature in lieu of filing fee petitions period started on December 28th and ends February 7th. Most State Assembly, State Senate and U.S. Congress candidates need 150 GP "good" signatures from their district to avoid having to pay $750-$1500 in candidate filing fees. Warner **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Recruiting County Council canidates Getting signatures for our one local congressional candidate Save BAREC report (Warner) (5 minutes) Getting helpers for January 12th strategy meeting in Palo Alto (Warner 5 minutes) Carpooling or other group traveling to January 13th candidate forum in San Francisco Phone banking for Get Out The Vote (GOTV) and general outreach (including fund raising) around the GPCA Presidential Primary (Feb 5th) Report on County Polling results (if available) Warner **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: