[Sosfbay-discuss] UN Climate Change Conference-Feinstein on finalnegotiations

[Andrea Dorey]

A few facts that the gas and American car companies don't want you to  
know:

Washington, D.C. is trying to hold in check California's Air  
Resources Board (CARB) in order to stop the do-it-now Plug-In  
movement picking up steam in California.

Note that Plug-In Priuses are HERE and driving happily right NOW on  
California freeways wearing "100 mpg+" painted on their doors (two of  
them have been driving daily for more than two years!).  These stock  
production cars from Toyota were easily made plug-in and could run 40  
miles or more on ELECTRIC POWER ONLY.

There's at least two different systems that I know of that were  
proposed and tested to make any Prius a plug-in car and at least one  
of the protocols has been offered to Toyota engineers.  Their answer:  
screw around with a new Prius and you can lose your warranty on the car.

('Google' EAA-EV or CalCars or Plug in America, among many other  
sources for more info on plug-ins and electrics.)

The only hold-up for the Prius Plug-In is Toyota, claiming that the  
batteries aren't good enough yet, the plug-in system hasn't been  
tested yet, blah, blah, blah.

Don't let them get away with these outright lies, and the wedge issue  
of fuel cells which make what is basically an electric car less  
powerful and less efficient by adding another unnecessary energy  
source, be it hydrogen, gas, biofuels, etc.  (The fuel cell issue was  
used by the car companies at CARB to stop the zero emissions  
standards in California and to rip the zippy, quiet little electric  
cars from the hands of their drivers.)

BTW, IMHO the use of biofuels is particularly evil as it will raise  
the cost of corn, soy, and other foodstuffs for the poor.

Why are they doing this to stop electrics and plug-ins?  Think energy- 
(gas)-station delivery system.  The necessary umbilical cord they  
need to keep you connected for their constant profits.  If you can  
plug in your car into your house wiring during the night while you  
sleep...

Oh, and of course, if the only maintenance needed is batteries, wiper  
blades, and tires...

Did you know that most of the all-electric RAV-4s have hit over  
100,000 miles (a few are at almost 150,000 miles) without any  
batteries being changed yet???

Andrea









On Dec 16, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Wes Rolley wrote:

> Tian Harter wrote:
>> According to the site in the URL at the end of that video, they did
>> reach some sort of agreement in the end:
>>
>> http://unfccc.int/2860.php
>>
> Everyone will call this a victory, but if it is, it is a very hollow
> one.  It was an agreement to continue talking for another two year and
> to reach some sort of actionable plan before 2010,.
>
> That is two years in which we will have continued to build up the
> surplus of Green House Gases.
> That is two years in which  US Government can swathe it's inaction and
> play Alphonse / Gaston with China.
> That is two years in which the lack of American Action will  
> increase the
> enmity that we have engendered throughout the world.
> That is two years in which even a change in Administration, e.g. to a
> Clinton Compromiser or an Obama Dreamer, will continue to tringulate
> deals that allow multi-national corporations to continue screwing the
> planet or to move their operations to countries whose government
> regulators are more easily bribed.
>
> I would suggest that everyone browse through the blog entries that
> Andrew Revikin has called for on his Dot Earth blog at the NY Times.
> Voices on Bali and Beyond
> <http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/16/voices-on-bali-and- 
> beyond/>
> is a collection of comments from people who were actually there.  Here
> is a quote from the first responder, Dr. Thomas J. Goreau, the  
> delegate
> from Jamaica, and representative of a Coalition of Caribbean nations:
> His target was the EU for its failure to stand up to the US stalling
> tactics.
>
>> This amounts to a real betrayal of all those who counted on the EU to
>> do the right thing, and amounts to a *capital crime against the
>> environment,* because millions will die as the result of unchecked
>> global warming.
> If there is a single issue that the Green Party needs to be very clear
> about, it is the one of Climate Change. What we do now, not what we
> begin to do in 2010 will have an effect on:
> - agricultural policy a swarming weather makes major changes to  
> what can
> be grown where and how much food might each country have to import  
> or be
> able to export as a result.
> - trade policies as competition for declining reserves of food and
> water, the basic essentials of life, make countries increasingly
> protectionist.
> - energy policy unless we take aggressive steps to get off of  
> fossil fuels.
> - security as increased frustration with US arrogance sends an
> increasing flow of people towards Al Qaeda or other organizations.
> - health care as diseases once considered tropical become increasingly
> prevalent in the more highly populated, currently temperate zones.
>
> Have we come so far from our roots as a party that we are not the
> leaders in speaking out? *
> *
>
> -- 
> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you  
> don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
>
> Wes Rolley
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