[Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment

[JamBoi]

Hmm... since Wes said "Gen Tojo, were executed", I think Cameron
undersood Wes correctly.

Impeachment, not Impalement!  The nonviolent alternative!

Drew

--- Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org> wrote:

> I took Wes's "executed" as not to be taken literally, but to mean 
> convicted and/or punished.
> 
> Fred D.
> 
> 
> Thanks Much Cameron
> 
> I'm absolutely opposed to the death penalty but there's times I
> forget it when it comes to the high crimes of our leaders.
> 
> As far as Genral Tojo is concerned, I was under the belief that the
> US had basically antagonized Japan into a war starting with bringing
> US battle ships into Japanese harbors.
> 
> Peace
> Duende
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 13, 2007, at 9:25 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
> 
> >
> > Wes wrote (in UTF-8):
> >
> >> If, at the end of WW II, the figures who were responsible for  
> >> starting
> >> that war, e.g. Gen Tojo, were executed for what they did, why  
> >> should the
> >> same not be the fate of Bush / Cheney.  Impeachment, trial,  
> >> sentencing
> >> and reaping the reward for starting a war of choice.
> >
> > Impeachment and a truly fair trial should be routine.
> >
> > Execution is an act of revenge.  Not deterrence, nor correction
> > nor justice.  It presumes power and authority no government
> > should have.  It normalizes murder.  It undermines legitimate
> > government authority and terrorizes oppressed populations.
> > It's incompatible with broad and consistent recognition of
> > the fundamental human rights.
> > Governments that do it attract lawless tyrants into their
> > leadership, and they bring all kinds of corruption with them.
> >
> > No executions.  If our platform doesn't already say that, it
> should.
> > It's not even a radical position; it's where a lot of the nations
> > we consider "developed" or "civilized" have been for decades.
> >
> > It seems to me that GWB, Cheney, and the rest exhibit various
> > disorders that psychiatry can diagnose and has management
> > protocols for.  A society with a functional justice and health
> > care systems would isolate them for everyone's safety, and deliver
> > appropriate care.  They belong in the loony bin, not the death
> > chamber or a warehouse.  We should be able to treat
> > even dangerously insane people with compassion.
> >
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> >
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