From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Jul  1 07:49:10 2007
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 07:49:10 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bowman
In-Reply-To: <4686E3D5.60202@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <BAY115-F1578A693716939F7CFEF8C9E0E0@phx.gbl>

Hi Jim,

I saw Dr. Bowman speak in Campbell 6/12 and at the awards
rally 6/13.

I found him quite inspiring.  He comes from a conservative
consitututionist basis, but his fearless examination of the
facts of the state of the world today lead him to startling
conclusions.  He proposed, or contemplated conditionally,
the destruction of the World Bank, the CIA, and the Federal
Reserve, and the outlawing of imperialism.  He advocated
the freeing of Leonard Peltier. He said if he were president
he would immediately rescind every single one of George
Bush's signing statements.

I told him that he blew my mind because I had never before
heard anyone say that a President has the power to outlaw
imperialism.

It appears that Dr. Bowman left the military when he realized
that the space weapons program he headed under Carter
would not work as a defensive weapon but had a great
deal of potential as an offensive one.

There were only about 50 people in Campbell.  I'm told he
got 140 in Chico, and that his single largest audience was in
Kansas City.

Ken Jenkins of 911TV.org and the Northern California 9/11 Truth
Alliance said Bowman's talk was the single best political speech he
had ever seen.  Jenkins was so excited he videotaped Bowman's
Marin County address with three cameras.  While waiting for that
to be edited, we'll have to satisfy ourselves with this excerpt
recording a section on 9/11:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MRWUNRvIBSY

I don't know where this one was shot.

I have much admired Dr. Bowman's extremely moderate positions
on 9/11:

The truth about 9/11 is that we don't know the truth about 9/11,
and we should.  If the administration has nothing to hide, why is it
hiding everything?  Even if the official narrative is essentially correct,
the coverup is itself a government conspiracy.

His talk is framed as a State of the Union address given after he has
been elected President.  He asks the audience to register its
reaction to its component statements by applauding or sitting
on their hands.  It's a very effective way of polling the audience.
(That's why in the video we see him make the grandiose claim
that he is establishing a new 9/11 Commission.)

Dr. Bowman says he is suffering from terminal cancer and is not
running for president, but is trying to get the ball rolling for a
program that will survive him.

Brian






>From: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>
>To: sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bowman
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:14:29 -0700
>
>Did anyone go hear ret Lt Col Bowman speak?
>I would like ot know what he said, roughly,
>and what your take was on his appearance (as a speaker.)
>
>Jim Doyle
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From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  1 10:20:38 2007
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:20:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Selling Lemonade at NBC11 Festival for
	Independence
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9027.1183225742.24070.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <901563.68378.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Would we like to be some of the first to test out a new, national MomsRising project?  The idea is that lemonade and/or bake sale items could be sold with a twist.  Reflecting real-world wage differences (although donations of any amount would be accepted), they'd provide us with a suggested price list on which items would cost a different amount of money depending on where the buyer falls in the wage gap scale. Only this time moms get a break!  
 How does the suggested cost structure work?  Single moms would pay only 60 cents per item, moms would pay 73 cents, women without children would pay 90 cents, and men would pay $1.00.  (This is the actual wage gap that's alive and well in our nation).  They'll have signs we can just print out available for kids to decorate. And, don't forget that donations of any amount could be accepted so we don't have to stick to this cost structure.  The cost structure is mostly a great conversation starter, as well as a fun way to spread the word about shared issues.
INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THIS TEST PROJECT?  Email moms at momsrising.org  with "Early Bird Baker" in the Subject line and they'll send us materials, including some how-to tips, and look to us for our feedback on what works and what doesn't work for this project.  

(They plan to roll this program out in full in October, timed with the State of Our Nation speech by their President.  So if we don't have time do this project now, we'll have another opportunity later. Early Birds will help them create the best possible program to roll out later by letting them know what works well to make our efforts together even better.)

What's the purpose of having a bake sale with cost differences?  Well, there are multiple purposes: To have fun, and to create understanding that there is a significant wage gap in our county that can be fixed.  As people are buying items, many will ask, "Why the gap?"   This is an opportunity to build public support for making our nation truly family-friendly because the short answer is: "The wage gaps aren't nearly as wide in countries with family-friendly policies in place like flexible work options, paid family leave, and subsidized childcare?and we are frankly behind the rest of the world when it comes to supporting families. We think it's time to catch up!"  They'll give us a handy sheet with common questions and answers, that have researched back up data in case we have a really tough customer.
FYI: Moms in Montana have already tested out this bake sale idea with great success!  In the Spring, they set up a bake sale table at their state capital, and over the course of the day talked to legislators, staffers, and other folks about the terrible inequities in pay for women in America.  They reported that it was a terrific day--where they made a difference and a little money, along with having a great time hanging out with friends and kids at the table.  Email moms at momsrising.org for more about how they did it!

       
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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Sun Jul  1 10:44:15 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 1 Jul 2007 17:44:15 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Selling Lemonade at NBC11 Festival for
	Independence
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Unfortunately the corporate "festival" charges several hundred dollars
extra if you sell (or even give away) food.  Same with Tapestry (labor day)
and the rest.  We got a non-profit rate because nominally we're not
selling anything.  That's why we have to say "donation" when we
give someone a button or an operating system.

Cameron



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  1 17:49:37 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:49:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Selling Lemonade at NBC11 Festival for
	Independence
In-Reply-To: <901563.68378.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <495241.35078.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Although we're not able to use this strategy at the
Fest. 4 Ind, we could certainly give it a whirl at our
other tabling opportunities. :-)  


Green is Global!

Drew

--- Edward <the_alliance47 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Would we like to be some of the first to test out a
> new, national MomsRising project?  The idea is that
> lemonade and/or bake sale items could be sold with a
> twist.  Reflecting real-world wage differences
> (although donations of any amount would be
> accepted), they'd provide us with a suggested price
> list on which items would cost a different amount of
> money depending on where the buyer falls in the wage
> gap scale. Only this time moms get a break!  
>  How does the suggested cost structure work?  Single
> moms would pay only 60 cents per item, moms would
> pay 73 cents, women without children would pay 90
> cents, and men would pay $1.00.  (This is the actual
> wage gap that's alive and well in our nation). 
> They'll have signs we can just print out available
> for kids to decorate. And, don't forget that
> donations of any amount could be accepted so we
> don't have to stick to this cost structure.  The
> cost structure is mostly a great conversation
> starter, as well as a fun way to spread the word
> about shared issues.
> INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THIS TEST PROJECT? 
> Email moms at momsrising.org  with "Early Bird Baker"
> in the Subject line and they'll send us materials,
> including some how-to tips, and look to us for our
> feedback on what works and what doesn't work for
> this project.  
> 
> (They plan to roll this program out in full in
> October, timed with the State of Our Nation speech
> by their President.  So if we don't have time do
> this project now, we'll have another opportunity
> later. Early Birds will help them create the best
> possible program to roll out later by letting them
> know what works well to make our efforts together
> even better.)
> 
> What's the purpose of having a bake sale with cost
> differences?  Well, there are multiple purposes: To
> have fun, and to create understanding that there is
> a significant wage gap in our county that can be
> fixed.  As people are buying items, many will ask,
> "Why the gap?"   This is an opportunity to build
> public support for making our nation truly
> family-friendly because the short answer is: "The
> wage gaps aren't nearly as wide in countries with
> family-friendly policies in place like flexible work
> options, paid family leave, and subsidized
> childcare?and we are frankly behind the rest of the
> world when it comes to supporting families. We think
> it's time to catch up!"  They'll give us a handy
> sheet with common questions and answers, that have
> researched back up data in case we have a really
> tough customer.
> FYI: Moms in Montana have already tested out this
> bake sale idea with great success!  In the Spring,
> they set up a bake sale table at their state
> capital, and over the course of the day talked to
> legislators, staffers, and other folks about the
> terrible inequities in pay for women in America. 
> They reported that it was a terrific day--where they
> made a difference and a little money, along with
> having a great time hanging out with friends and
> kids at the table.  Email moms at momsrising.org for
> more about how they did it!
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  1 18:08:30 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 18:08:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] WaPo: Congress could pursue contempt charges for
	Bush; Lugar's suprise call for Iraq change
Message-ID: <212065.90765.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-talk/2007/07/post.html?hpid=topnews
July 1: Congress could pursue contempt charges for
Bush

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee
signaled today that he would seek to hold White House
officials in contempt of Congress if they do not
comply with congressional subpoenas.

"If they don't cooperate, yes, I'll go that far," said
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), when asked on NBC's "Meet
the Press" if he would ask Congress to hold President
Bush in contempt if he refuses to respond to
subpoenas.

"They've chosen confrontation rather than compromise
or cooperation," Leahy said.

Democrats and the White House are locked in battle
over two areas in which Congress has asked for access
to information.

Last week, White House counsel Fred Fielding said Bush
has claimed executive privilege in deciding not to
turn over documents relating to the administration's
warrantless surveillance program. Bush also has relied
on executive privilege to refuse to allow former White
House officials Harriet Miers and Sara Taylor to
testify in the continuing investigation over the
firing of nine U.S. attorneys.

"The president and vice president are not above the
law anymore than you and I are," Leahy said.

Leahy said he is not trying to shut down the
surveillance program.

"We're asking what was the legal justification they
tried to follow when for years they were wiretapping
Americans and everybody else without a warrant," Leahy
said.

On the fired U.S. attorneys, Leahy said, "The bottom
line is in the U.S. attorney investigation, we have
people manipulating law enforcement. Law enforcement
can't be partisan."

Leahy predicted the White House and Congress could
find a compromise, suggesting that sessions with White
House officials that are under oath and transcribed
would be acceptable. The White House has allowed only
for interviews that are neither under oath nor
transcribed.

"They've always found a way to ... get the information
Congress is entitled to," Leahy said of previous
Republican and Democratic administrations.

But if the White House continues to assert executive
privilege, he said, the next step for Congress is to
determine whether the claim is legitimate. "Based on
the court cases," it is not, he said. If his
colleagues agree, the Judiciary Committee and Congress
will have to vote on whether to hold Bush in contempt,
and if they vote in the affirmative, the case will be
relayed to the U.S. attorney for prosecution.

The war

Sen. Richard Lugar (Ind.), an influential Republican
and former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee, called for a change in U.S. strategy in
Iraq, predicting the president's strategy of sending
30,000 more troops to the country will not succeed in
a timely manner.

Lugar surprised many in both parties last week when he
came out and made similar remarks on the Senate floor.
Democrats say they are planning to try to use a Senate
defense authorization bill next week to force
withdrawals, but most observers expect that, like
previous attempts, to fail ahead of planned testimony
in September from Gen. David H. Petraeus, the U.S.
commander in Iraq, and Ryan C. Crocker, the U.S.
ambassador in Iraq, on the effectiveness of the
"surge" strategy.

"The point of the surge was to give time for the Iraqi
politicians to work out the constitutional elements,
not only the oil law but the local elections, a whole
raft of things.They're not going to be able to do that
in that period of time of December or next March, or
what have you. It may take years," Lugar said on CBS'
"Face the Nation." "This is sad, but that is the
case."

Lugar called on President Bush to join with a
bipartisan group in Congress "to think through three
elements:"

* "How we can form a diplomatic forum in which the
Iraqis and the United States bring together all the
neighboring countries."

* How this can "be buttressed by American forces who
would stay relatively indefinitely in Iraq, performing
services of training the Iraqi police and military
people, but also working with other nations to secure
the borders."

* How to begin the "withdrawal of a majority of
American troops in a calm, orderly way, over the next
few months, so that we refurbish our ability to meet
problems elsewhere in the world."

If the president hopes to continue his current
strategy, he probably will be able to through the
conclusion of his term, Lugar said. But, he added, "My
guess is the constraints of the presidential campaign,
the congressional campaign are likely to bring pause
even to the president if he were to have that idea."

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  2 07:31:11 2007
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 07:31:11 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bowman in Marin, Video
Message-ID: <BAY115-F15B5E40C86D073A9A9010C9E0D0@phx.gbl>

http://bpathvideo.blogspot.com/

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From andid at cagreens.org  Mon Jul  2 07:48:09 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 07:48:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Request for Agenda Items
In-Reply-To: <551154.61998.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <551154.61998.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DFEEE879-3668-4BDE-A3E8-78F2003F77EB@cagreens.org>

Thanks, Drew.  I will see you on Thursday.  Nice to see you at the  
movie SICKO on Friday and discuss the health care situation with you.
A.

On Jun 30, 2007, at 11:04 AM, JamBoi wrote:

> Hey Andi,
>
> That'd be great!  As I e-mailed you and the other
> prospective Media Committee folks previously we are
> definitely hot to move on this.  And we're still
> meeting at the San Jose Peace Center on 7th st. near
> SJSU.
>
>
> Green is powerful!
>
> Drew
>
> --- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:
>
>> Anyone care for an update about the TV media group?
>> Anyone else want to join me in a short report?
>> Andrea
>> PS - Where are we meeting these days?
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:10 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will be assembling the agenda for this
>> Thursday's
>>> (7/5) meeting.
>>>
>>> Please submit your agenda items to me before
>> Monday,
>>> (7/2) 7:00PM.
>>>
>>> PLEASE include
>>> - a short item description to be put in the
>> agenda,
>>>     (hopefully not more than 5 words)
>>> - presenter's name
>>> - time needed (if no time submitted I will specify
>> between
>>>     0 and 5 minutes)
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Mon Jul  2 08:18:04 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 08:18:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Progress in the OC
In-Reply-To: <467BEE7E.4090808@charter.net>
References: <467BEE7E.4090808@charter.net>
Message-ID: <F62ED126-6466-4081-BAD5-7C5F96F30761@cagreens.org>

Hi, Wes,
Great nursing/monitoring of the group's activity with respect to  
using the Blogging effectively!  I am continually surprised and  
delighted with your political savvy.

Your analysis of GPSCC's past and present approaches in these areas  
seem to me to be correct.  However, my semi-retirement due to  
immediate health issues and impending surgery leave me with little  
room to criticize such lacks.     ;- )       I hope to back to more  
active status sometime in September.

Meantime, joining with the hard-working health care group at the  
SICKO movie on Friday was refreshing and inspiring.  Their  
magnificent activism was rewarded with overwhelming positive response.
Andrea

On Jun 22, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Wes Rolley wrote:

> I have spent some time this spring working remotely with a group of
> individuals in Orange County.  The original intent was to mount a
> campaign the out Congressman Crazy, a.k.a. Dana Rohrabacher.  
> (CA-46)  I
> find that what they are doing might sere as a good model for action  
> here
> in Santa Clara County.
>
> To begin with, since the target is a Republican and there is not  
> yet an
> announced Democratic Candidate (Green Tom Lash has said that he
> "intends" to run... again) to replace him, the group consists of  
> active
> Greens (One is a National Delegate) and PDA Democrats.  This may  
> change,
> but this group knows that they will have to make this decision at some
> point in time.
>
> One of the first tasks that took place was to establish effective
> communications channels.  This consists of a blog
> (crazydana.blogspot.com) and an email list (sane46).  The latter took
> about a month until everyone understood what it took to keep that list
> operational and effective.  (The participants in the Green California
> Forum could take a lesson from this.)
>
> After some discussion, the pieces started meld together into a work  
> plan
> that is being executed.
>
> - The have a voter registration list for the District and it is on a
> personal computer.
> - They have decided to target three specific issue areas: SB 840, Iraq
> War, Climate Change.  At some point in time, they will have to figure
> out what to do about Immigration, since that is where Dana opens his
> mouth almost every day.
> - Regarding SB 840, they have decided to also target State Senator Tom
> Harmon (SD-35), whose district is closely aligned with CA-46.   Harmon
> calls it "socialized medicine" and gets most of his campaign
> contributions from big pharma.
> - The have a plan to maximize the Letters to the Editors exposure in
> every local newspaper including the very Libertarian (surprise) Orange
> County Register.
> - They will be tabling at all of the showing of Sicko - objectives -
> Ridicule Harmon, Hit Rohrabacher on his miserable Congressional voting
> record (against funding veterans trauma care, 11% rating from the
> American Public Health Assn.) and registering new voters if possible.
> - They will start walking precincts in Harmon's district (especially
> where it overlaps with Rohrabacher's Huntington Beach, Costa Mesa,
> Fountain Valley, Seal Beach).  Issue: Health Care. Targets: both.   
> But,
> they will feed back the results of contacts into the voter  
> registration
> DB, making it a contact management system for use later.
>
> This is still all grassroots without any connection to the Democratic
> Party apparatus in OC.  However, some leading OC Greens are on the
> sane46 email list: including 2 members of the County Council.
>
> The degree of coordination that has been achieve between the various
> activities is extraordinary for a group that has been in existence for
> only a very short time.  They demonstrate a political maturity in that
> they are using individual actions to feed into an overall plan, one  
> that
> can be executed in sections over the time that they have.  This is
> something that this county could benefit from.  We do a lot of  
> work, but
> have not yet established the processes to connect them with each other
> or with an overall strategy.
>
> They have also been able to bring together three constituencies:
> anti-war, environmental and Health Care in such a way as to allow
> individuals to work on that which motivates them the most and still to
> connect it into the overall  objective, which is to Retire Dana
> Rohrabacher.
>
> While everyone cares deeply about the issues, the purpose of this
> collaboration is political, not just to advance the issues.  It  
> appears
> to me that much of what we do in Santa Clara County is only about the
> issues and not enough is done to use those issues to build a
> constituency for local political action.
>
> My contributions to this have been:
> - getting the Crazy Dana blog going.  There is one other author - a
> young  PDA type who is also blogging against another SoCal Republican
> Congressman. We are now to the place where, if one does a google alert
> on the name Dana Rohrabacher, you get the hits from our Crazy Dana  
> Blog.
> - some basic research for issues: e.g. Rohrabacher's voting record on
> Veterans Health care, and his scorecard with health care organizations
> and getting this information to the people who will use it... e.g.
> Military Families Speak Out..
> - establishing and setting the tone for the discussion on sane46
> - encouraging the use of targeted letter to the editor campaigns.   
> I did
> a couple of letters myself, responded on some newspaper owned blogs,
> made sure that the sane46 email list knew about what I had done,
> encouraged others to do the same.  Now, they do it themselves  
> without my
> having to spend time on it.
> - connecting the Rohrabacher record back to some national news
> organizations and blogs, e.g. TPM Cafe.  E.g. The recent Republican
> attack on Pelosi for her "diplomatic" role regarding Israel / Syria  
> was
> labeled hypocrisy when Rohrabacher had done the same thing himself  
> with
> the Taliban in early 2001. (Interesting sidelight here in that one
> reporter writing on this story was D. Kucinich's daughter.)
>
> I may just back off and monitor this for a while... too much going  
> on in
> the Delta.
>
>
>
> -- 
> "I find I have a great lot to learn ? or unlearn. I seem to know  
> far too much and this knowledge obscures the really significant  
> facts, but I am getting on." -- Charles Rennie Mackintosh
>
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul  2 11:26:37 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:26:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] cair picnic
Message-ID: <4689435D.3000504@sbcglobal.net>

The web site
http://www.interfaithspace.org/IS-events.htm#meet0708
has the following announcement about the CAIR picnic.

Sunday, July 8, 11:00 am- 4:00 pm, Sunnyvale

CAIR Annual Family Picnic

This is an opportunity to have family fun while educating yourself by 
hearing presentation from representatives of the various political 
parties and their respective candidates on vital government issues, 
especially those concerning the protection of minorities, civil 
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul  2 11:34:23 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:34:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] vacation plans
Message-ID: <4689452F.7090101@sbcglobal.net>

I will be away until 7/22.
For that time period I am putting a vacation hold on
my subscription to this list.

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jul  2 11:38:07 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:38:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] farmworkers
Message-ID: <4689460F.4020804@sbcglobal.net>



*/The Farmworkers? Journey/*

*Book Signing and Bracero Photo Exhibit*

* *

*How does globalization impact immigration? *

*Are temporary work visas good for business and families?*


*/You are invited/* at 11:00 on Friday, July 6 to the Eastside 
Neighborhood Center, 2150 Alum Rock Avenue in San Jose to

    * *Meet and hear author Ann Lopez*
    * *Purchase and receive a signed copy of her newly released book,
      /The Farmworkers? Journey/. Booksigning until 1 p.m. *
    * *View a stunning photo exhibit of bracero farmworkers who worked
      in California between 1942 and 1964*
    * *Hear the testimony of surviving braceros as they relate their
      experiences to visa proposals for farmworkers in Congress*

"This book tells a powerful and moving story of lives affected by 
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testimonials of the people directly touched by the powerful market 
forces that have been unleashed by trade liberalization. Lopez brings 
together different analytical dimensions that are normally treated 
separately, moving through these dimensions with an ease indicative of 
her extraordinary talent and expertise." --Alejandro Nadal, Science, 
Technology and Development Program, El Colegio de M?xico

*Ann Aurelia L?pez* received a Ph.D. from the University of California, 
Santa Cruz. She recently completed a President's Postdoctoral fellowship 
at the University of California, Berkeley. She has a long history of 
teaching Environmental Science, Ecology and Botany courses in the 
Department of Biology at San Jose City College. She is currently a 
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Systems at the University of California, Santa Cruz, and is in the 
process of establishing a non-profit organization designed to improve 
the lives of California farmworkers and their families in Mexico.

*SPONSORED BY THE SILICON VALLEY ALLIANCE FOR IMMIGRATION REFORM*

*For More Information Contact Richard Hobbs at 408-460-2999*




From michele at micheleryan.com  Mon Jul  2 11:56:41 2007
From: michele at micheleryan.com (Michele Ryan)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:56:41 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Request for Agenda Items
In-Reply-To: <DFEEE879-3668-4BDE-A3E8-78F2003F77EB@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <C2AE9879.746B618E%michele@micheleryan.com>

Hi Andrea,

I sent a message to Walter Bloomberg yesterday, but I saw your request for
agenda items, and I?d like to address the meeting if possible. My name is
Michele Ryan, and I'm a resident of Santa Clara, and I?d like to talk to the
Santa Clara County Green Party about the proposed 49ers stadium in Santa
Clara.

As you may know, the San Francisco 49ers have presented a proposal to the
City  of Santa Clara to build a new stadium. Their plan calls for the city
to contribute nearly $300 million in assets (cash, land, and property) to
this project -- or about $2,600 for every single resident of Santa Clara. If
you?d like to read more about the proposal, you can see our analysis at:

www.StadiumFacts.org

I'm part of a small group of Santa Clara residents who have become active in
trying to defeat this plan, and we're going to need lots of help just to get
this to a public vote. A majority of the City Council members already
support the plan -- even before their own feasibility consultants have had a
chance to finish their analysis -- and they would all prefer that this issue
be decided by the council, not by the voters.

We are in the process of forming a coalition of organizations and
individuals who are willing to help us in our efforts to defeat this
enormous public subsidy for a private corporation.  I understand that part
of the Green Party?s national platform includes opposition to such corporate
welfare, and I am writing to ask you to join our cause.

We can use your help. We need to persuade and motivate 15,000 voters in
Santa Clara. That will require the help of a few professionals and many,
many volunteers. We need contacts, counsel, and creative ideas. We need to
develop allies beyond the city and resources beyond our means.

I could talk for quite a while about the subject, but I?d be happy to limit
my remarks at the meeting to whatever time limit you think is best. I could
probably cover the key issues in 10 minutes or less, and I?d be happy to
answer more specific questions if you have additional time.

I hope I can count on your support.

Sincerely,

Michele Ryan 
Moderator 
www.StadiumFacts.org



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  2 13:13:48 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:13:48 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "UN Calls for Pedal Power"
Message-ID: <46895C7C.3080703@earthlink.net>



"UN Calls for Pedal Power to Reduce Environmental Damage"
      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/02/2247/

More specifically, it comes from the WHO (World Health
Organization).

Gerry



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 08:03:58 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:03:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Request for Agenda Items
In-Reply-To: <C2AE9879.746B618E%michele@micheleryan.com>
Message-ID: <994190.22079.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi Michele,

To clarify, Andrea was replying to a note that County
Councilor Gerry Gras sent out setting up our agenda
for the GPSCC General County meeting Thursday July 5th
at 7:30pm.  As one of the other County Councilors I
can say that at that meeting we could really only
offer  you a 10 minute slot to begin a dialog about
the stadium issue.  That would at least get the talk
started, but to really cover it in depth and do it
justice perhaps we could ask you an GPSCC East Valley
Local meeting where we'd have more time to offer.

So with that in mind would you be interested in a 10
minute brief intro time on Thursday night?  It would
not be able to be the first item on the agenda because
we have our own internal items (which is what that
meeting is primarily about) that need to go first,
however I think we could get to it fairly quickly,
like say by 8pm.  Would that work for you?


Green is Connection!
Drew Johnson
County Councilor of the Green Party of Santa Clara Co

--- Michele Ryan <michele at micheleryan.com> wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
> 
> I sent a message to Walter Bloomberg yesterday, but
> I saw your request for
> agenda items, and I?d like to address the meeting if
> possible. My name is
> Michele Ryan, and I'm a resident of Santa Clara, and
> I?d like to talk to the
> Santa Clara County Green Party about the proposed
> 49ers stadium in Santa
> Clara.
> 
> As you may know, the San Francisco 49ers have
> presented a proposal to the
> City  of Santa Clara to build a new stadium. Their
> plan calls for the city
> to contribute nearly $300 million in assets (cash,
> land, and property) to
> this project -- or about $2,600 for every single
> resident of Santa Clara. If
> you?d like to read more about the proposal, you can
> see our analysis at:
> 
> www.StadiumFacts.org
> 
> I'm part of a small group of Santa Clara residents
> who have become active in
> trying to defeat this plan, and we're going to need
> lots of help just to get
> this to a public vote. A majority of the City
> Council members already
> support the plan -- even before their own
> feasibility consultants have had a
> chance to finish their analysis -- and they would
> all prefer that this issue
> be decided by the council, not by the voters.
> 
> We are in the process of forming a coalition of
> organizations and
> individuals who are willing to help us in our
> efforts to defeat this
> enormous public subsidy for a private corporation. 
> I understand that part
> of the Green Party?s national platform includes
> opposition to such corporate
> welfare, and I am writing to ask you to join our
> cause.
> 
> We can use your help. We need to persuade and
> motivate 15,000 voters in
> Santa Clara. That will require the help of a few
> professionals and many,
> many volunteers. We need contacts, counsel, and
> creative ideas. We need to
> develop allies beyond the city and resources beyond
> our means.
> 
> I could talk for quite a while about the subject,
> but I?d be happy to limit
> my remarks at the meeting to whatever time limit you
> think is best. I could
> probably cover the key issues in 10 minutes or less,
> and I?d be happy to
> answer more specific questions if you have
> additional time.
> 
> I hope I can count on your support.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Michele Ryan 
> Moderator 
> www.StadiumFacts.org
> 
> 


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  3 08:22:16 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:22:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
Message-ID: <468A69A8.2030004@earthlink.net>


"Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/02/2251/

Gerry


P.S. This is the headline story on the front page:
     http://www.commondreams.org/
with "Above the law" in red.



From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Jul  3 08:26:16 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:26:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
In-Reply-To: <468A69A8.2030004@earthlink.net>
References: <468A69A8.2030004@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1CF071C8-93D2-429F-B473-2F4B1B8B2723@cagreens.org>

Note that by commuting Libby's sentence, Bush has effectively  
preventing Libby from squealing due to jail time and allowed him 5th  
Amendment rights to decline to discuss Bush's and Cheney's part!   
Smart move, eh?  He has nothing to lose and everything to gain,  
according to KPFA this morning.
Andrea

On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
> "Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
>      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/02/2251/
>
> Gerry
>
>
> P.S. This is the headline story on the front page:
>      http://www.commondreams.org/
> with "Above the law" in red.
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 08:45:57 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:45:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
In-Reply-To: <1CF071C8-93D2-429F-B473-2F4B1B8B2723@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <425709.7836.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I see it just the opposite way.  Bush has made a
terrible miscalculation that will bring his own party 
down on him (excluding the NeoCons who were urging
this) and is shoveling fuel on the fire of the Dems. 
Now they'll start working in a 'bipartisan' way to act
NOW to bring Bush up short via Criminal Contempt of
Congress charges, censureship and/or impeachment.  I
think this was one of the best things that could have
happened to bring Bush/CheneyCo down!


Green, like rust, never sleeps!

Drew

--- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:

> Note that by commuting Libby's sentence, Bush has
> effectively  
> preventing Libby from squealing due to jail time and
> allowed him 5th  
> Amendment rights to decline to discuss Bush's and
> Cheney's part!   
> Smart move, eh?  He has nothing to lose and
> everything to gain,  
> according to KPFA this morning.
> Andrea
> 
> On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
> 
> >
> > "Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
> >     
> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/02/2251/
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> > P.S. This is the headline story on the front page:
> >      http://www.commondreams.org/
> > with "Above the law" in red.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> >
>
http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>
http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 09:07:16 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:07:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Draft Minutes for GPSCC June General Meeting
Message-ID: <615292.93559.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Green Party of Santa Clara County
General County Meeting, Thursday June 7, 2007

Selection of Facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, and
vibes watchperson 
(5) group**
Facilitator: Jim Doyle
Time Keeper: Warner Bloomberg
Note Taker: Drew Johnson
Vibe Watcher: Rob Means

Introductions (if necessary) and announcements (10)
group
Jim Doyle
Cameron Spitzer
Rob Means
Jim Stauffer
Fred Duperrault
Iliad Rodriguez - 1st time meeting
Drew Johnson
Edward Chow - 2nd time meeting.  Berkeley Campus Green
Warner Bloomberg
  - DVDs from the retreat, Larry Robinson
  - 
TREASURER?S REPORT (5) Cameron

Treasurer?s Report: $1661.00, 2 Bundles of Green Focus
Tian button making materials.

FUNDRAISING IDEAS (2) Jim Doyle

Fund raising:
  Tamale festival vendors made $5,000 
   Organic!  San Jose State Earth Day vendor sold
organic tamales and made money!

TABLING SUPPLIES (Literature, buttons) (10) (or 3
minutes to find a 
coordinator)
 Got 1 page handout
 Low on everything
 * Warner proposes and we consens to buy Edward ?s
supply of GP.org stickers and magnets $228.

Jim S. - Need Tabling Coordinator & Literature
Coordinator: 

Merriam will do the Literature Coordinator part of it
but would like to work with others on the tabling
coordination part.

Tabling Opportunities (20) Jim D

Sat June 9-th 10 year anniversary of Mayfair
Improvement Initiative
Sat June 9-th SVIC Impeachment Display
Sun June 10-th Gay Pride Parade
9-10 Victory Parking Lot 64 N. Market St. & St. John
11-11:0
Drew to be fallback for literature if Jim is unable to
get printing done in time for SJ Gay Pride Parade.

Sunday June 10-th Iraqi oil workers, 2 - 4 pm
Tuesday June12th retired Lt.Col. Bob Bowman 7 pm

Saturday-Sunday June 16-17 Juneteenth noon to 8 pm

JULY 4-TH tabling at the Festival for Independence
http://www.ehclifebuilders.org/af

 Merriam to coordinate this event

July 8-th Speaker at Muslim event (Gerry): speakers
include Drew, Jo, Tian among others.

Status of current coordinating committee regional reps
(20) Jim Stauffer
  Regional Reps to Coordinating Committee.
  Mitch Smith last election w/ Gerry Gras alternate
June 2006
  Jo Chamberlain and Alt. Jim Stauffer 
  June 2008 next scheduled election
  Proposed Regional meeting at end 

Bylaw clarification on replacing Regional Rep. was
taken off agenda at SF Plenary.  Will bring back to
next Plenary.  Jim Stauffer

Proposed Bylaws Changes: selecting regional reps (10)
Warner

Possible need for a regional meeting (5) Jim Stauffer

GPSCC County Council Candidate (5) 
Roy Nordblum
Kaisha Torres

Plenary Reports:

Warner: Consensus Calender items, GP-US Nomination
Convention Delegates, Frustration over CC paralysis
led to ?hijacking of agenda?.

Cameron: Ashamed and disgusted - bad as Asilomar,
personal charisma won over formal agenda.  Documentary
crew videoing.  Crew astonished that we were still
trying to struggle through. polydot.org, 

Tian: Took photos.  Good turnout in delegate numbers. 
Camraderie. Little things made it fun.

Jim: One of strangest plenaries he?s ever seen. 
Committee meetings were preempted (only one session),
last CC meeting ?sedate and well mannered? sobering
effect.  CC?s solution: Quarantine LA.  Binding
arbitration. proposal LA. reps voluntarily resign.

Drew:  Disturbing!  Especially running-out-the-clock
parliamentary maneuvering of Michael Feinstein to
continue to hold power.

Concerns with Reboot proposal :  Drew requests
feedback

Warner: Felt reboot is contrary to Green Values,
responsibility of Regions to send reps.

Jim: Doesn?t think firing everyone is the solution. 
Good people would be lost. Won?t get us to a
functioning CC.

WE RAN OUT OF TIME SO WE DIDN?T GET TO THE REST OF THE
AGENDA WHICH INCLUDED:

GREEN PARTY CANDIDATES (5) Merriam

COMMITTEE REPORTS Media, strategy, outreach, health,
Green Forums,
County Council: Picnics 1) regional 2) start up a mid
valley local 
promotion

Consider endorsing a peace resolution. (10) Tian

Adjourn

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  3 09:11:06 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:11:06 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
References: <425709.7836.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <468A751A.7070001@earthlink.net>


I think Andrea is right.  If Bush did not commute Libby's
sentence, then Libby might squeal.  Furthermore, others
might wory about what might happen to them if they get
in trouble with the law.  So I think Bush did what he
needed to do, for his own survival.

And hopefully Drew is right that Congress will respond to
this.  We'll see.  And how they respond partly depends on
how Americans respond.  I already sent emails to me three
reps.

I now have Democracy Now to see what they have to say.

Gerry


JamBoi wrote:

> I see it just the opposite way.  Bush has made a
> terrible miscalculation that will bring his own party 
> down on him (excluding the NeoCons who were urging
> this) and is shoveling fuel on the fire of the Dems. 
> Now they'll start working in a 'bipartisan' way to act
> NOW to bring Bush up short via Criminal Contempt of
> Congress charges, censureship and/or impeachment.  I
> think this was one of the best things that could have
> happened to bring Bush/CheneyCo down!
> 
> 
> Green, like rust, never sleeps!
> 
> Drew
> 
> --- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Note that by commuting Libby's sentence, Bush has
>>effectively  
>>preventing Libby from squealing due to jail time and
>>allowed him 5th  
>>Amendment rights to decline to discuss Bush's and
>>Cheney's part!   
>>Smart move, eh?  He has nothing to lose and
>>everything to gain,  
>>according to KPFA this morning.
>>Andrea
>>
>>On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Bush Commutes Libby Prison Sentence"
>>>    
>>>
>>http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/02/2251/
>>
>>>Gerry
>>>
>>>
>>>P.S. This is the headline story on the front page:
>>>     http://www.commondreams.org/
>>>with "Above the law" in red.
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>>
>>>
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 
>>_______________________________________________
>>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>
>>
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 
> 
> 
> ___________________
> 
> JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
> The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> 
> "To the brave belong all things"
> Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC
> 
> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
> 
> 
>        
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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Jul  3 09:12:41 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:12:41 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Keeping my sanity
Message-ID: <468A7579.1010906@charter.net>

requires that I curtail all political activity for a while.  I will be 
dropping off this list and focusing strictly on family and art for the 
foreseeable future.

It has been a great experience.   I will drop off the SCC lists as soon 
as this note is back in my inbox.

Wes

-- 
"I find I have a great lot to learn ? or unlearn. I seem to know far too much and this knowledge obscures the really significant facts, but I am getting on." -- Charles Rennie Mackintosh

Wesley C. Rolley
17211 Quail Court
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408)778-3024
http://www.refpub.com/



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 09:15:46 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:15:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Keeping my sanity
In-Reply-To: <468A7579.1010906@charter.net>
Message-ID: <931190.13097.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thank you for your service and I look forward to the
time when it makes sense for you to rejoin us!

Green Grows!

Drew

--- Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net> wrote:

> requires that I curtail all political activity for a
> while.  I will be 
> dropping off this list and focusing strictly on
> family and art for the 
> foreseeable future.
> 
> It has been a great experience.   I will drop off
> the SCC lists as soon 
> as this note is back in my inbox.
> 
> Wes
> 
> -- 
> "I find I have a great lot to learn ??? or unlearn.
> I seem to know far too much and this knowledge
> obscures the really significant facts, but I am
> getting on." -- Charles Rennie Mackintosh
> 
> Wesley C. Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court
> Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> (408)778-3024
> http://www.refpub.com/
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>
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> 


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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Jul  3 09:28:50 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:28:50 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Keeping my sanity
In-Reply-To: <468A7579.1010906@charter.net>
References: <468A7579.1010906@charter.net>
Message-ID: <8C98BA65FB8DBA0-10B0-2D8@FWM-D37.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Wes, 

You are a good comrade and I do appreciate you being my mentor in the blogging world.? 

That connection between the big city and rural Greens that you have championed is s-o-o-o important.? 

I've gained?a greater appreciation for this since I moved to Southern California.? In Northern California, some of the small towns and rural areas are quite liberal.? In Southern California the consequences of the evils of the two-party system are more apparent.??Liberal Los Angeles is completely surrounded by Republican counties that?are not just "conservative" but downright fascist.? Your old "friend"?Richard Pombo from Tracy would be considered a "moderate" by Orange County standards.??

Peace,?

Alex Walker?


-----Original Message-----
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To: Green Discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 9:12 am
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Keeping my sanity



requires that I curtail all political activity for a while.  I will be 
ropping off this list and focusing strictly on family and art for the 
oreseeable future.
It has been a great experience.   I will drop off the SCC lists as soon 
s this note is back in my inbox.
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nd this knowledge obscures the really significant facts, but I am getting on." 
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  3 10:18:17 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:18:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Press Response to Bush's commutation
Message-ID: <468A84D9.6090800@earthlink.net>


A lot is being said.

You might check out:
     http://www.commondreams.org/

and try searching for "Bush Libby" at
     http://news.google.com

Gerry



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Tue Jul  3 11:29:00 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:29:00 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Industrial Hemp Film TONIGHT on PBS!!]
Message-ID: <468A956C.8040808@ispwest.com>

 

*"Standing Silent Nation," a New Documentary Film about the Lakota's 
Efforts to Grow Industrial Hemp, Premiers on PBS's P.O.V. on Tuesday, 
July 3* *- on KQED at 10pm; Repeats July 7 at 4AM.*

Alex White Plume and his extended Lakota family, or tiospaye, are known 
on South Dakota's Pine Ridge Reservation for the determination and 
industriousness with which they have faced the hard economic choices 
imposed by history and reservation life. Undeterred by poor soil and 
uncertain weather on their land, the White Plumes planted alfalfa, 
barley and corn and raised horses and buffalo, all of which brought the 
family little better than a subsistence life and continued reliance on 
government subsidies. Still, the family was resolved to achieve economic 
self-sufficiency, thus preserving the Lakota traditions and bonds that 
sustain the identity of family and tribe.

After much research, and under Alex's leadership, the family planted 
industrial hemp, the non-psychoactive relative of marijuana. As Alex 
discovered, the world is in the midst of a boom market for hemp 
products. The demand is no less in the United States, even with this 
anomaly: Hemp products can be sold here, but growing hemp is a felony. 
Alex didn't aim to challenge the logic of the federal government's drug 
war; he believed that tribal sovereignty allowed him to plant hemp as 
surely as it allowed Native Americans to build and run casinos 
elsewhere. He was wrong.

"Standing Silent Nation" Discussion Guide 
<http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bubjzbcab.0.avlj9bcab.77w8grbab.6107&ts=S0260&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fpov%2Fpov2007%2Fstanding%2Fresources_guide.php>
P.O.V. offers discussion guides for all of their films. You can download 
this guide and use it to gain tips on how to develop productive 
conversations using the film.

"Standing Silent Nation" Lesson Plan: /Debate U.S. Government Policy on 
Hemp/ 
<http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bubjzbcab.0.bvlj9bcab.77w8grbab.6107&ts=S0260&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fpov%2Fpov2007%2Fstanding%2Ffor.html> 

This lesson plan is designed to be used in conjunction with the film. It 
explores U.S. policies related to hemp, as well as the relationship of 
the U.S. government to indigenous nations.

The Many Facets of Hemp 
<http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bubjzbcab.0.cvlj9bcab.77w8grbab.6107&ts=S0260&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fpov%2Fpov2007%2Fstanding%2Fspecial.html> 

Watch an interview with former CIA director James Woolsey and the 
original trailer from filmmakers Suree Towfighnia and Courtney Hermann 
to learn more about this versatile crop.

"Standing Silent Nation" Official Web Site 
<http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bubjzbcab.0.4ulj9bcab.77w8grbab.6107&ts=S0260&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.standingsilentnation.com%2F> 

Check out the official Web site to learn more about the film and its 
makers.

www.votehemp.com <http://www.votehemp.com>

Sincerely,

Leslie Bonett

Measure Z Commissioner, City of Oakland

 

 


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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Tue Jul  3 12:12:32 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:12:32 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cindy Sheehan calls for revolution
In-Reply-To: <468A84D9.6090800@earthlink.net>
References: <468A84D9.6090800@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <468A9FA0.3060106@ispwest.com>

I'm thinking about that old Mark Twain quote,
"quitting is easy, I've done it a thousand times."

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/03/2276/

Please notice she makes pains to draw nonviolent parallels...

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: SF Agent Orange Press Conferance pictures and words.
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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Tue Jul  3 12:15:29 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 3 Jul 2007 19:15:29 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Keeping my sanity
Message-ID: <20070703191529.16202.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


Thanks for all your hard work and wisdom.  We'll miss you.


-- 
Cameron in the Valley of Hearts Delight



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  3 17:36:43 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:36:43 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Message-ID: <468AEB9B.7050608@earthlink.net>


Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Thursday, July 5, 2007
Location:
         San Jose Peace Center
         48 South 7th Street, San Jose
         http://www.sanjosepeace.org/

6:30 Socializing and Dinner  -  7:30 Meeting
         (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
         so bring your own or get it from one of the
         nearby restaurants)

          -- Preliminary Items --

Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
     Vibes Watcher(s)  (5)
Introductions and Short Announcements  (5)
Revise and Affirm Agenda  (5)

          -- Main Part --


1. Treasurer's Report  (10)  Cameron

2. State Party Business
     (none)

3. Old Business
     A. Tabling  (10?)  (??)
     B. Bylaws Amendment  (15)  Drew
     C. Media Group Report  (5)  Andrea

4. New Business
     A. "Unreasonable Man" at Peace Center  (5)  Merriam
     B. Affirm Local  (10)  Drew
     C. 49ers Santa Clara Stadium Report  (10)  Michele Ryan


(Total scheduled time:  1 hours, 20 minutes)

          -- Future Events --

Next GPSCC meeting  Thursday, August 2, 2007

          -- Disclaimer --

The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.  The
actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
reached during the meeting because of time limits.  Persons
receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
individuals who do not have email.



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  3 17:42:56 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:42:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
References: <468AEB9B.7050608@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <468AED10.2000606@earthlink.net>


I would like to mention that at the time of
affirming the agenda, it is ok to rearrange
the order of items.  And in the past, when
we have a guest speaker who joins the meeting
for just one item, we sometimes rearrange the
order for the convenience of the guest speaker.

Gerry


Gerry Gras wrote:

> Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
> Thursday, July 5, 2007
> Location:
>          San Jose Peace Center
>          48 South 7th Street, San Jose
>          http://www.sanjosepeace.org/
> 
> 6:30 Socializing and Dinner  -  7:30 Meeting
>          (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
>          so bring your own or get it from one of the
>          nearby restaurants)
> 
>           -- Preliminary Items --
> 
> Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
>      Vibes Watcher(s)  (5)
> Introductions and Short Announcements  (5)
> Revise and Affirm Agenda  (5)
> 
>           -- Main Part --
> 
> 
> 1. Treasurer's Report  (10)  Cameron
> 
> 2. State Party Business
>      (none)
> 
> 3. Old Business
>      A. Tabling  (10?)  (??)
>      B. Bylaws Amendment  (15)  Drew
>      C. Media Group Report  (5)  Andrea
> 
> 4. New Business
>      A. "Unreasonable Man" at Peace Center  (5)  Merriam
>      B. Affirm Local  (10)  Drew
>      C. 49ers Santa Clara Stadium Report  (10)  Michele Ryan
> 
> 
> (Total scheduled time:  1 hours, 20 minutes)
> 
>           -- Future Events --
> 
> Next GPSCC meeting  Thursday, August 2, 2007
> 
>           -- Disclaimer --
> 
> The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.  The
> actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
> present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
> changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
> reached during the meeting because of time limits.  Persons
> receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
> corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
> the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
> individuals who do not have email.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 
> 




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  3 17:45:56 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:45:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help! re making copies of the agenda
Message-ID: <468AEDC4.6090205@earthlink.net>


I am having back problems, so I may not be able
to attend the meeting on Thursday.  Therefore I
need someone to make copies of the agenda for
the meeting.  Is there anyone willing and able
to make 10 copies?

Gerry



From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  3 18:47:21 2007
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 18:47:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cindy Sheehan calls for revolution
In-Reply-To: <468A9FA0.3060106@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <BAY115-F96ED89840EEF7D5F1A9549E030@phx.gbl>

The Rev. Lennox Yearwood, mentioned in Cindy's article,
will be speaking at World Can't Wait's Town Hall meeting
at San Francisco Public Library, 100 Larkin Street (at Grove)
on the afternoon of July 15th.

2008 is too late!

Sen. Gravel has recently signed the World Can't Wait
statement.

Brian




>From: Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com>
>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cindy Sheehan calls for revolution
>Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:12:32 -0700
>
>I'm thinking about that old Mark Twain quote,
>"quitting is easy, I've done it a thousand times."
>
>http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/03/2276/
>
>Please notice she makes pains to draw nonviolent parallels...
>
>--
>Tian
>http://tian.greens.org
>Latest change: SF Agent Orange Press Conferance pictures and words.
>BTW: If you are free and around, come to my party on Saturday the 7th!
>
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>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  3 21:33:07 2007
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:33:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
Message-ID: <BAY115-F2500420AB170F677FD45209E030@phx.gbl>

Blistering 10 minute rant

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/

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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Jul  3 22:08:19 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:08:19 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] CA-37 - 37% of 11% = Safe Seat in Congress
Message-ID: <8C98C1078B850B5-340-4957@WEBMAIL-MA06.sysops.aol.com>


I have posted an entry on my blog on the raw numbers for the first round of voting for the special election in California's 37th Congressional District
?


CA-37 - 37% of 11% = Safe Seat in Congress 
CA-37 - 37% of 11% = Safe Seat in Congress 
?

You call this a democracy?

Everybody says Democrat Laura Richardson?is on her way to Congress. In the special election to succeed the late Congresswoman Juanita Millender-McDonald. Richardson received a "whooping" 37.57% of the ballots cast. That is 11,956 out of 31,825 votes out of 265,102 registered voters.

In other words, Laura Richardson is presumed to be going to the Congress based on 4.51% of the registered voters.

On this Fourth of July no doubt the good folks in Lebanon, Palestine, Israel, Iraq, and Iran are really, really impressed by the manifest superiority of democracy in America.

. . . 

So, as a member of the Black "tribe" I'm supposed to be "proud" of this?

I feel a little ashamed and frightened for my country when at this critical moment in the history of the world anybody can schlep into the United States House of Representatives in this way.

Pray each night Laura Richardson is not another Harold Ford. Work like hell each day for Daniel.




Read More at: http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2007/07/ca-37-democracy-37-of-11-seat-in.html 



So, as a member of the Black "tribe" I'm supposed to be "proud" of this?

I feel a little ashamed and frightened for my country when at this critical moment in the history of the world anybody can schlep into the United States House of Representatives in this way.

Pray each night Laura Richardson is not another Harold Ford. Work like hell each day for Daniel.




Read More at: http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2007/07/ca-37-democracy-37-of-11-seat-in.html 

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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Wed Jul  4 00:02:23 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 03:02:23 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help! re making copies of the agenda
Message-ID: <cde.12e9adef.33bc9fff@aol.com>

Hi Gerry,

I can make the copies of the agenda for the meeting.  Can you email me the 
agenda?

Take care,
Merriam

Subj:   [Sosfbay-discuss] Help! re making copies of the agenda? 
Date:   7/3/2007 5:45:35 PM Pacific Standard Time   
From:   gerrygras at earthlink.net 
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org    
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    



I am having back problems, so I may not be able
to attend the meeting on Thursday.? Therefore I
need someone to make copies of the agenda for
the meeting.? Is there anyone willing and able
to make 10 copies?

Gerry





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From alexcathy at aol.com  Wed Jul  4 09:10:41 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:10:41 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] CA-37 -UPDATE
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Dear Friends, 

I did some more research on this business with the Indian gaming casinos and updated my blog entry. 
Turns out California Assembly Speaker Fabian Nu?ez is the real villain of the piece.? Supposedly the unions pulled out all the stops for Richardson because of Oropeza's vote on the gaming contracts.? Richardson was endorsed by Nu?ez.? 



Practically the day after the election Nu?ez and the Dems turned right around and screwed the union! 
You can't make this stuff up.? The changed text from my blog post is below:?



CA-37 - 37% of 11% = Safe Seat in Congress 

?

You call this a democracy?

.? .? .

The Incredible Flip-Flopping Fabian Nu?ez 

Why did the unions come out so strongly for Richardson even though Oropeza had a strong labor record? Presumably, it was their anger over this casino business.

Check this out!

Do a search on Google News and this is exactly the way two items appear:


Richardson wins primary for congressional seat
Los Angeles Times, CA - Jun 27, 2007
By John L. Mitchell, Times Staff Writer Assemblywoman Laura Richardson finished ahead of her closest Democratic rival, state Sen. Jenny Oropeza, and a field ...


Impasse over tribal gaming accords ends
Los Angeles Times, CA - Jun 28, 2007
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nu?ez (D-Los Angeles) agreed to move ahead with the compacts, which the state Senate already had approved. But union issues were not ...

It was like: "The election is over now and Laura is in... Screw the unions!"

Here's what flip-flopping Fabian told the Los Angeles Times about his endorsement of Richardson:

Nu?ez, a former labor organizer, said he had heard some of the complaints about his decision.

"There were some voices out there who think that because you are Latino, you should only be supporting Latinos, but we were able to lower the decibels a bit," he said. "The good thing about the job I have is that it carries a little bit of weight with it."

More important, Nu?ez said, was the principle of supporting a strong African American candidate.

"I wanted to send a message loud and clear to the African American community of Los Angeles that we have got to work together to advance the Democratic agenda," he said. "The cause of African Americans is not a flag that African Americans have to carry on their own."

What a world-class Clintonesque double-talking hustler!

.? .? .

So, in addition to pussy-footing on the Iraq war, healthcare, education, and the environment we can add labor issues.? 

You can't make this stuff up!? 


Alex Walker 






CA-37 - 37% of 11% = Safe Seat in Congress 

?

You call this a democracy?

.? .? .

The Incredible Flip-Flopping Fabian Nu?ez 

Why did the unions come out so strongly for Richardson even though Oropeza had a strong labor record? Presumably, it was their anger over this casino business.

Check this out!

Do a search on Google News and this is exactly the way two items appear:


Richardson wins primary for congressional seat
Los Angeles Times, CA - Jun 27, 2007
By John L. Mitchell, Times Staff Writer Assemblywoman Laura Richardson finished ahead of her closest Democratic rival, state Sen. Jenny Oropeza, and a field ...


Impasse over tribal gaming accords ends
Los Angeles Times, CA - Jun 28, 2007
Assembly Speaker Fabian Nu?ez (D-Los Angeles) agreed to move ahead with the compacts, which the state Senate already had approved. But union issues were not ...

It was like: "The election is over now and Laura is in... Screw the unions!"

Here's what flip-flopping Fabian told the Los Angeles Times about his endorsement of Richardson:

Nu?ez, a former labor organizer, said he had heard some of the complaints about his decision.

"There were some voices out there who think that because you are Latino, you should only be supporting Latinos, but we were able to lower the decibels a bit," he said. "The good thing about the job I have is that it carries a little bit of weight with it."

More important, Nu?ez said, was the principle of supporting a strong African American candidate.

"I wanted to send a message loud and clear to the African American community of Los Angeles that we have got to work together to advance the Democratic agenda," he said. "The cause of African Americans is not a flag that African Americans have to carry on their own."

What a world-class Clintonesque double-talking hustler!

.? .? .

So, in addition to pussy-footing on the Iraq war, healthcare, education, and the environment we can add labor issues.? 

You can't make this stuff up!? 


Alex Walker 




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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Wed Jul  4 12:02:21 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:02:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Party at Tian's, 7 PM, 7/7/7!
Message-ID: <468BEEBD.3010809@ispwest.com>

I was browsing my email, and there was something from Al Gore
saying "we're throwing a planet wide party, why not host it in
your world?" I thought maybe. The MoveOn sent me an email
on the same subject and I succumbed. So I'm throwing a party
on Saturday July 7th:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/777PartyAnoucement.html

They are urging us to do a low waste thing, so keep that in mind
when you decide what to bring. At least bring your own cup!
I'll have plenty of plates from TV dinners...

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: SF Agent Orange Press Conferance pictures and words.
BTW: If you are free and around, come to my party on Saturday the 7th!



From jims at greens.org  Wed Jul  4 15:07:58 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:07:58 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [ProChoiceOrNoChoice] Full text of the
	Freedom of Choice Act
In-Reply-To: <3750197.1183505369157.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <3750197.1183505369157.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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------- Forwarded message -------
From: "Mona D'Astarte" <mdastarte at earthlink.net>
To: SVChoice <svchoice at yahoogroups.com>, "Pro Choice or No Choice"  
<prochoiceornochoice at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ProChoiceOrNoChoice] Full text of the Freedom of Choice Act
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:29:28 -0700

Following is the bill entitled the Freedom of Choice Act
introduced by Sen. Boxer in the Senate and Rep. Nadler in
the House of Representatives.  Read it and then call or email your
senators and representatives to urge them to support it. To find
how to contact your senator or representative, go to:

www.senate.gov or
www.house.gov


110th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 1173
To protect, consistent with Roe v. Wade, a woman's freedom to choose
to bear a child or terminate a pregnancy, and for other purposes.


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 19, 2007
Mrs. BOXER (for herself, Mrs. MURRAY, Ms. STABENOW, Mr. BINGAMAN,
Mr. MENENDEZ, Mr. LAUTENBERG, Mr. CARDIN, Mr. SCHUMER, Mrs. CLINTON,
Mrs. FEINSTEIN, Ms. MIKULSKI, Mr. BAUCUS, and Ms. CANTWELL) introduced
the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee
on the Judiciary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


A BILL
To protect, consistent with Roe v. Wade, a woman's freedom to choose
to bear a child or terminate a pregnancy, and for other purposes.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Freedom of Choice Act'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) The United States was founded on core principles, such as liberty,
personal privacy, and equality, which ensure that individuals are free
to make their most intimate decisions without governmental interference
and discrimination.

(2) One of the most private and difficult decisions an individual makes
is whether to begin, prevent, continue, or terminate a pregnancy. Those
reproductive health decisions are best made by women, in consultation with
their loved ones and health care providers.

(3) In 1965, in Griswold v. Connecticut (381 U.S. 479), and in 1973, in
Roe v. Wade (410 U.S. 113) and Doe v. Bolton (410 U.S. 179), the Supreme
Court recognized that the right to privacy protected by the Constitution
encompasses the right of every woman to weigh the personal, moral, and
religious considerations involved in deciding whether to begin, prevent,
continue, or terminate a pregnancy.

(4) The Roe v. Wade decision carefully balances the rights of women to make
important reproductive decisions with the State's interest in potential  
life.
Under Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, the right to privacy protects a  
woman's
decision to choose to terminate her pregnancy prior to fetal viability,  
with
the State permitted to ban abortion after fetal viability except when  
necessary
to protect a woman's life or health.

(5) These decisions have protected the health and lives of women in the  
United
States. Prior to the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973, an estimated 1,200,000  
women
each year were forced to resort to illegal abortions, despite the risk of
unsanitary conditions, incompetent treatment, infection, hemorrhage,  
disfiguration,
and death. Before Roe, it is estimated that thousands of women died  
annually in the
United States as a result of illegal abortions.

(6) In countries in which abortion remains illegal, the risk of maternal  
mortality
is high. According to the World Health Organization, of the approximately  
600,000
pregnancy-related deaths occurring annually around the world, 80,000 are  
associated
with unsafe abortions.

(7) The Roe v. Wade decision also expanded the opportunities for women to  
participate
equally in society. In 1992, in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (505 U.S.  
833), the Supreme
Court observed that, `[t]he ability of women to participate equally in the  
economic and
social life of the Nation has been facilitated by their ability to control  
their
reproductive lives.'.

(8) Even though the Roe v. Wade decision has stood for more than 34 years,  
there are
increasing threats to reproductive health and freedom emerging from all  
branches and
levels of government. In 2006, South Dakota became the first State in more  
than 15
years to enact a ban on abortion in nearly all circumstances. Supporters  
of this ban
have admitted it is an attempt to directly challenge Roe in the courts.  
Other States
are considering similar bans.

(9) Further threatening Roe, the Supreme Court recently upheld the  
first-ever Federal
ban on an abortion procedure, which has no exception to protect a woman's  
health. The
majority decision in Gonzales v. Carhart (05-380, slip op. April 18, 2007)  
and
Gonzales v. Planned Parenthood Federation of America fails to protect a  
woman's health,
a core tenet of Roe v. Wade. Dissenting in that case, Justice Ginsburg  
called the
majority's opinion `alarming', and stated that, `[f]or the first time  
since Roe, the
Court blesses a prohibition with no exception safeguarding a woman's  
health'. Further,
she said, the Federal ban `and the Court's defense of it cannot be  
understood as
anything other than an effort to chip away at a right declared again and  
again by
this Court'.

(10) Legal and practical barriers to the full range of reproductive  
services
endanger women's health and lives. Incremental restrictions on the right to
choose imposed by Congress and State legislatures have made access to  
reproductive
care extremely difficult, if not impossible, for many women across the  
country.
Currently, 87 percent of the counties in the United States have no  
abortion provider.

(11) While abortion should remain safe and legal, women should also have  
more
meaningful access to family planning services that prevent unintended  
pregnancies,
thereby reducing the need for abortion.

(12) To guarantee the protections of Roe v. Wade, Federal legislation is  
necessary.

(13) Although Congress may not create constitutional rights without  
amending the
Constitution, Congress may, where authorized by its enumerated powers and  
not
prohibited by the Constitution, enact legislation to create and secure  
statutory
rights in areas of legitimate national concern.

(14) Congress has the affirmative power under section 8 of article I of the
Constitution and section 5 of the 14th amendment to the Constitution to  
enact
legislation to facilitate interstate commerce and to prevent State  
interference
with interstate commerce, liberty, or equal protection of the laws.

(15) Federal protection of a woman's right to choose to prevent or  
terminate
a pregnancy falls within this affirmative power of Congress, in part,  
because--

(A) many women cross State lines to obtain abortions and many more would be
forced to do so absent a constitutional right or Federal protection;

(B) reproductive health clinics are commercial actors that regularly  
purchase
medicine, medical equipment, and other necessary supplies from out-of-State
suppliers; and

(C) reproductive health clinics employ doctors, nurses, and other personnel
who travel across State lines in order to provide reproductive health  
services
to patients.

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:

(1) GOVERNMENT- The term `government' includes a branch, department,  
agency,
instrumentality, or official (or other individual acting under color of  
law)
of the United States, a State, or a subdivision of a State.

(2) STATE- The term `State' means each of the States, the District of  
Columbia,
the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and each territory or possession of the  
United
States.

(3) VIABILITY- The term `viability' means that stage of pregnancy when, in  
the
best medical judgment of the attending physician based on the particular  
medical
facts of the case before the physician, there is a reasonable likelihood  
of the
sustained survival of the fetus outside of the woman.

SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.

(a) Statement of Policy- It is the policy of the United States that every  
woman
has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a  
pregnancy
prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal  
viability when
necessary to protect the life or health of the woman.

(b) Prohibition of Interference- A government may not--

(1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose--

(A) to bear a child;

(B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability; or

(C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary
to protect the life or health of the woman; or

(2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in paragraph
(1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or  
information.

(c) Civil Action- An individual aggrieved by a violation of this section  
may
obtain appropriate relief (including relief against a government) in a  
civil action.

SEC. 5. SEVERABILITY.

If any provision of this Act, or the application of such provision to any  
person
or circumstance, is held to be unconstitutional, the remainder of this  
Act, or
the application of such provision to persons or circumstances other than  
those
as to which the provision is held to be unconstitutional, shall not be  
affected
thereby.

SEC. 6. RETROACTIVE EFFECT.

This Act applies to every Federal, State, and local statute, ordinance,  
regulation,
administrative order, decision, policy, practice, or other action enacted,  
adopted,
or implemented before, on, or after the date of enactment of this Act.




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  5 01:42:18 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:42:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment Office in LA
Message-ID: <468CAEEA.1070306@earthlink.net>


Full article:
 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-impeach5jul05,0,3983892.story?coll=la-home-center


Excerpts:

	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

...

A place to push impeachment

...

An office opens near the Beverly Center to organize activists seeking 
the ouster of President Bush and Vice President Cheney.

...

"This is an impeachment 4th of July," Byron De Lear, a Green Party 
activist, said Wednesday. He called removing Bush and Cheney "a 
patriotic duty to restore the integrity of the United States."

...

The impeachment center was sponsored by Progressive Democrats of Los 
Angeles, Westside Greens, Santa Monica Democratic Club and the Los 
Angeles Greens.

...

	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

Gerry



From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu Jul  5 12:10:29 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:10:29 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Op-Ed on People of Color - for Green Focus
Message-ID: <8C98D4F499CD43D-151C-1988@WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Don, 

When is the next deadline for Green Focus submissions?

After all the web-surfing and blogging I've been doing on CA-37, now more than ever, I want to do that point-counterpoint I proposed a while ago about people-of-color in the Green Party.?

For this to be useful, we need somebody to do the "counterpoint."? As you all know by now, I myself, am very much against that peculiar?petite bourgeois black pseudo-nationalism that is now almost hegemonic among the African-American intellectuals. In my humble opinion, this peculiar style of politics is a throwback to the politics of the Democratic Party and liberal white universities?from the 1960s through the?1980s and into the 1990s.? Thus, Bill Clinton could crow about appointing a cabinet that "looked like America" even while they were busy screwing America.? Then, guess what?? George W. Bush, of all people, appointed a cabinet that was, arguably, even more "diverse" than Clinton's.? I mean, if color is all you care about then two Black secretaries of state and a Latino attorney general is hard to beat.? 

Frankly, one reason I left the Democratic Party was to get away from that bullshit.? I would hate to see the Green Party imitate the Democrats and go down that path.? Our?key values are not only?independent of?religious dogma and "ethnic politics" but our Green values are international and that is one of?our greatest strengths.? I want?a Green Party where a "Black issue" like, say, the criminal justice system and?the "Latino issue" on immigration are everybody's issues.? ????? 

I know I'm out of the mainstream, but I know I'm not crazy and I'm not alone.? Among big names, Adolph Reed, Gerald Early, Angela Davis, and sometimes Cornel West and Alice Walker agree with me? Adolph Reed is very active in the Labor Party (a waste) and his position is crystal clear.??His hometown is none other than New Orleans, Lousiana and?Adolph Reed went so far as to argue?that it was a mistake for progressives to frame the Katrina debacle as a "race" issue when, it's really more of a class thing.? In the world of big-league politics, Ron Dellums, Barbara Lee, Jesse Jackson, Jr. (not his daddy), John Lewis, and Cynthia McKinney should never have been Democrats.? In their souls they are Greens.? Having lived in both metropolitan areas, I gotta say there *IS* a qualitative difference between the "Green" Ron Dellums and Barbara Lee and the "liberal Democrat" Maxine Waters.? Maxine is a terrific liberal congresswoman, but just like old Ted Kennedy?back in?Boston,?Maxine sits atop a Big City Machine that ain't shit!???

To do this right,?somebody else must argue forcefully the other way.??I don't?want it to be said:?"Oh! Those Whites?Greens?trotted out Alex Walker to write what they like to hear."??I ain't no Green Clarence Thomas!? I want people to read?the two arguments side-by-side and reflect.?


Alex Walker??????
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  5 14:00:01 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:00:01 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Info Request
Message-ID: <468D5BD1.1060609@earthlink.net>


We received a call today on the GPSCC phone line.
He wants to get a "pamphlet" about us.  Dana's
out of appropriate info.  Does anyone have
suitable literature for mailing (San Jose)?

Gerry



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  5 15:53:28 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Olbermann: Bush, Cheney Should Resign
Message-ID: <759599.69768.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Peter Drekmeier <pdrekmeier at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Peter Drekmeier <pdrekmeier at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Olbermann: Bush, Cheney Should Resign
> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:17:23 -0700
> 
> Friends,
> 
> This is a very powerful editorial from Keith
> Olbermann of MSNBC.  I  
> encourage you to check it out.
> 
> http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070407Y.shtml
> 
> -----------------------------------
> Peter Drekmeier
> pdrekmeier at earthlink.net
> (650) 223-3333

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From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu Jul  5 16:08:26 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:08:26 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS - Another GOP Senator Breaks with
	Bush
Message-ID: <8C98D70870E80AE-1534-959E@FWM-M25.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends, 



Good News!? Another senior Republican senator has broken with Bush's Iraq War policy.? 



We had a heated discussion about this just last week.? The solid GOP
wall is finally starting to crumble.? I strongly disagree with those
who say the "peaceniks" should back off and play nice. 



No!? 



Keep up the pressure. Impeach the bastards!? Force 'em to resign if we can!? 


To tell the truth, I am amazed myself at how the impeachment idea is catching fire.? This feels a lot like it felt at the beginning of the end for Nixon.? It's about damned time! 



Alex 



= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = 



Associated Press

Senior GOP Senator Abandons Iraq Policy

By MATT MYGATT and ANNE FLAHERTY
     07.05.07,
             6:10 PM ET





Sen. Pete Domenici on Thursday withdrew his support of President
Bush's Iraq war policy and embraced instead a proposal to bring home
most troops by next March.







The longtime New Mexico senator is the
latest of several Republican stalwarts who have abandoned Bush on Iraq
in the past 10 days, calling for a change sooner rather than later and
further isolating Bush in his attempt to defend the deeply unpopular
war.







Last week, Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and George
Voinovich, R-Ohio, said the U.S. should significantly downsize its
military presence in Iraq while beefing up diplomatic efforts. Sen.
John Warner, R-Va., is expected to propose legislation this month
calling for a new approach.







"I have carefully studied the Iraq
situation and believe we cannot continue asking our troops to sacrifice
indefinitely while the Iraqi government is not making measurable
progress to move its country forward," said Dominici, who was elected
in 1972 and is now a senior member of a panel that oversees defense
spending...




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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  5 17:34:40 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 17:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bylaws Amendment re: Regional Reps
Message-ID: <237129.17769.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This is the formulation of the Regional Rep amendment
to our GPSCC bylaws I'll be presenting.


Green is patient and yet persistent!

Drew

-----------
ARTICLE 9   REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVES, ALTERNATES

9.1   Representation on the statewide coordinating
committee is on a regional basis. Regional
representatives and alternates to the statewide
coordinating committee are elected biannually for a
nominal two year term that expires at the end of the
term at which time the seat will remain open until a
new election is held.  The election will be announced
on email lists at least 15 days in advance and the
announcement will be an  agenda item.

9.2 Declaring Candidacy
     Candidates shall announce their availability on
the email lists of the county councils of the region
prior to the administrative meeting at which a vacancy
or replacement is considered.  The term
'administrative meeting' in these bylaws shall be
understood include but be limited only to General
County, or County Council meetings.

9.3 Candidate Presentations
     The administrative meeting will have agenda items
for the candidates to present themselves, to describe
their goals, and to answer questions.

9.4 Decision
     Approval of a representative will be a decision
item at the administrative meeting following the one
at which the candidates made their presentations.

9.5 Regional Coordination
     A candidate must be approved by the several
counties of the region.  If different candidates are
approved by the various counties the decision(s) 
shall be retaken by the counties until agreement
between the counties is reached.

9.6 Regional Balance
     It shall be an objective to have the regional
representative and the first alternate regional
representative shall be from a different county
wherever possible.

9.7 Replacement
     A regional representative or an alternate
regional representative may be replaced using the same
process for selecting a regional representative or an
alternate regional representative.

9.8 Effective Date
    This amendment, Article 9 of the by-laws shall
take effect on its date of passage, {ed. note: date of
passage to be inserted here upon passage}.

9.9 Expiration of Article 9
     The process for the selection of regional
representatives to the statewide coordinating
committee shall lapse whenever regions are 
redefined.


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  5 20:27:54 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:27:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bylaws Amendment on Regional Reps (corrected)
Message-ID: <428688.53259.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

{Corrected some grammar and added clarification}. 
This is the actual version I presented at the 7/5/07
General County meeting.

Green in Consensual

Drew

----------
ARTICLE 9   REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVES, ALTERNATES

9.1   Representation on the statewide coordinating
committee is on a regional basis. Regional
representatives and alternates to the statewide
coordinating committee are elected biannually for a
nominal two year term that expires at the end of the
term at which time the seat will remain open until the
counties have agreed on new representatives.  Ideally
the counties' agreement will be in place before the
expiration of the previous term(s). The election will
be announced on email lists at least 15 days in
advance and the announcement will be an  agenda item.

9.2 Declaring Candidacy
     Candidates shall announce their availability on
the email lists of the county councils of the region
prior to the administrative meeting at which a vacancy
or replacement is considered.  "None of the Above"
shall be considered an acceptable candidate. The term
'administrative meeting' in these bylaws shall be
understood include but be limited only to General
County, or County Council meetings.

9.3 Candidate Presentations
     The administrative meeting will have agenda items
for the candidates to present themselves, to describe
their goals, and to answer questions.

9.4 Decision
     Approval of a representative will be a decision
item at the administrative meeting following the one
at which the candidates made their presentations.

9.5 Regional Coordination
     A candidate must be approved by the several
counties of the region.  If different candidates are
approved by the various counties the decision(s) 
shall be retaken by the counties until agreement
between the counties is reached.

9.6 Regional Balance
     It shall be an objective to have the regional
representative and the first alternate regional
representative be from different counties
wherever possible.

9.7 Replacement
     A regional representative or an alternate
regional representative may be replaced using the same
process for selecting a regional representative or an
alternate regional representative.

9.8 Effective Date
    This amendment, Article 9 of the by-laws shall
take effect on its date of passage, {ed. note: date of
passage to be inserted here upon passage}.

9.9 Expiration of Article 9
     The process for the selection of regional
representatives to the statewide coordinating
committee shall lapse whenever regions are 
redefined.


----------

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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Jul  6 09:53:56 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:53:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting...
In-Reply-To: <468AEB9B.7050608@earthlink.net>
References: <468AEB9B.7050608@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <615C99DB-07B2-439F-8289-4D24BF7A9FEA@cagreens.org>

Sorry, guys,
I felt flushed and dizzy yesterday from the intense heat and was so  
unwell that I went home to lie down with cold cloths and fan to cool  
off.  I had no way to contact anyone as I don't have wifi at home  
yet.  I still feel the effects?very tired.  I hope to go to Mtn View  
tonight with flyers if I can, but another dose of overheating could  
be more serious.
Andrea

On Jul 3, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
> Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
> Thursday, July 5, 2007
> Location:
>          San Jose Peace Center
>          48 South 7th Street, San Jose
>          http://www.sanjosepeace.org/
>
> 6:30 Socializing and Dinner  -  7:30 Meeting
>          (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
>          so bring your own or get it from one of the
>          nearby restaurants)
>
>           -- Preliminary Items --
>
> Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
>      Vibes Watcher(s)  (5)
> Introductions and Short Announcements  (5)
> Revise and Affirm Agenda  (5)
>
>           -- Main Part --
>
>
> 1. Treasurer's Report  (10)  Cameron
>
> 2. State Party Business
>      (none)
>
> 3. Old Business
>      A. Tabling  (10?)  (??)
>      B. Bylaws Amendment  (15)  Drew
>      C. Media Group Report  (5)  Andrea
>
> 4. New Business
>      A. "Unreasonable Man" at Peace Center  (5)  Merriam
>      B. Affirm Local  (10)  Drew
>      C. 49ers Santa Clara Stadium Report  (10)  Michele Ryan
>
>
> (Total scheduled time:  1 hours, 20 minutes)
>
>           -- Future Events --
>
> Next GPSCC meeting  Thursday, August 2, 2007
>
>           -- Disclaimer --
>
> The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.  The
> actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
> present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
> changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
> reached during the meeting because of time limits.  Persons
> receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
> corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
> the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
> individuals who do not have email.
>
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  6 11:47:09 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:47:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Supporting the Troops
Message-ID: <468E8E2D.5080304@earthlink.net>


"'Supporting the Troops' Means Withdrawing Them"
by Gen. William Odom

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/06/2325/


(About how bad it is for the troops and officers in Iraq.)

(Impeachment is mentioned at the end.)

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  6 11:47:55 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:47:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?iso-8859-1?q?=22BlueCross_Secret_Memo_Re=3A_?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?=27Sicko=27_=22?=
Message-ID: <468E8E5B.8060704@earthlink.net>


"BlueCross Secret Memo Re: 'Sicko'"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/06/2344/


Gerry



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri Jul  6 12:08:15 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:08:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting...
In-Reply-To: <615C99DB-07B2-439F-8289-4D24BF7A9FEA@cagreens.org>
References: <468AEB9B.7050608@earthlink.net>
	<615C99DB-07B2-439F-8289-4D24BF7A9FEA@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <468E931F.60907@ispwest.com>

The most momentous thing that happened was the Santa Clara Citizens
outcry against the proposed 49'ers Stadium. It sounds like it would cost
the City of Santa Clara something like $800,000,000.00 (eight hundred
million dollars). That would be $2,000 per household. You can find out 
more at:

http://stadiumfacts.blogspot.com/

I hope you are better soon. We missed your input. Nobody knew how to
present for you on the media group report, so nothing happened on that item.

In other news, we did consense that the north county local exists.

Tian

Andrea Dorey wrote:

>Sorry, guys,
>I felt flushed and dizzy yesterday from the intense heat and was so  
>unwell that I went home to lie down with cold cloths and fan to cool  
>off.  I had no way to contact anyone as I don't have wifi at home  
>yet.  I still feel the effects?very tired.  I hope to go to Mtn View  
>tonight with flyers if I can, but another dose of overheating could  
>be more serious.
>Andrea
>
>On Jul 3, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
>>Thursday, July 5, 2007
>>Location:
>>         San Jose Peace Center
>>         48 South 7th Street, San Jose
>>         http://www.sanjosepeace.org/
>>
>>6:30 Socializing and Dinner  -  7:30 Meeting
>>         (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
>>         so bring your own or get it from one of the
>>         nearby restaurants)
>>
>>          -- Preliminary Items --
>>
>>Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
>>     Vibes Watcher(s)  (5)
>>Introductions and Short Announcements  (5)
>>Revise and Affirm Agenda  (5)
>>
>>          -- Main Part --
>>
>>
>>1. Treasurer's Report  (10)  Cameron
>>
>>2. State Party Business
>>     (none)
>>
>>3. Old Business
>>     A. Tabling  (10?)  (??)
>>     B. Bylaws Amendment  (15)  Drew
>>     C. Media Group Report  (5)  Andrea
>>
>>4. New Business
>>     A. "Unreasonable Man" at Peace Center  (5)  Merriam
>>     B. Affirm Local  (10)  Drew
>>     C. 49ers Santa Clara Stadium Report  (10)  Michele Ryan
>>
>>
>>(Total scheduled time:  1 hours, 20 minutes)
>>
>>          -- Future Events --
>>
>>Next GPSCC meeting  Thursday, August 2, 2007
>>
>>          -- Disclaimer --
>>
>>The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.  The
>>actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
>>present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
>>changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
>>reached during the meeting because of time limits.  Persons
>>receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
>>corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
>>the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
>>individuals who do not have email.
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From michele at micheleryan.com  Fri Jul  6 14:40:44 2007
From: michele at micheleryan.com (Michele Ryan)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:40:44 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting...
In-Reply-To: <468E931F.60907@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <C2B404EC.746B651E%michele@micheleryan.com>

I want to thank the Committee members for allowing me to attend the meeting
to present information about the proposal.

I just wanted to add a note about the numbers. The current proposal from the
49ers requests the following contributions from the City of Santa Clara :

* $180 million in cash for construction and site improvements (including $20
million to relocate an electrical substation)

* $107 million in physical assets (15 acres of land plus relocation of a
planned parking garage.)

Santa Clara has approximately 114,000 residents, so the cash contribution
PER RESIDENT is about $1,600, and if you count the value of all the assets,
it's over $2,500 per resident.

By comparison, the per resident subsidy for the new Arizona Cardinals
stadium in Glendale, Arizona, was $38/per resident ? and that's based on a
total budget including land acquisition and site improvements. [The county
contributed more through an increase in rental car and hotel taxes]

The public financing for the new football stadium in Seattle was through an
extension of car rental and hotel taxes, 6 special lottery games, and a
0.17% 
sales tax, but no direct cash from the city. So a resident there would have
to spend about $1,500,000 on taxable purchases in the city to match the
Santa Clara per resident contribution.

Even Texas, the public funding (a voter-approved $325 million) for the new
Dallas Cowboys stadium is coming from an 0.5% increase in sales tax and
increases to hotel and rental car taxes. So a resident there would have to
spend about $500,000 on taxable purchases in the city to match the Santa
Clara per resident contribution.

And, finally, the new stadium for the New England Patriots was paid for
entirely by the team owner. [State taxpayers did finance about $75 million
in infrastructure improvements, but the team is responsible for paying back
that debt.] And they?ve managed to win the Superbowl in 3 of the last 6
years.

I hope this information provides a sense of scale for the current 49ers
proposal.

Thanks again for the opportunity to bring this issue to you attention, and I
hope we can count on your support. If you have any questions or would like
any additional information, please let me know.

Sincerely,

Michele Ryan
Moderator
StadiumFacts.org



> The most momentous thing that happened was the Santa Clara Citizens
> outcry against the proposed 49'ers Stadium. It sounds like it would cost
> the City of Santa Clara something like $800,000,000.00 (eight hundred
> million dollars). That would be $2,000 per household. You can find out
> more at:
> 
> http://stadiumfacts.blogspot.com/
> 
> I hope you are better soon. We missed your input. Nobody knew how to
> present for you on the media group report, so nothing happened on that item.
> 
> In other news, we did consense that the north county local exists.
> 
> Tian
> 
> Andrea Dorey wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, guys,
>> I felt flushed and dizzy yesterday from the intense heat and was so
>> unwell that I went home to lie down with cold cloths and fan to cool
>> off.  I had no way to contact anyone as I don't have wifi at home
>> yet.  I still feel the effects?very tired.  I hope to go to Mtn View
>> tonight with flyers if I can, but another dose of overheating could
>> be more serious.
>> Andrea
>> 
>> On Jul 3, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
>>> Thursday, July 5, 2007
>>> Location:
>>>         San Jose Peace Center
>>>         48 South 7th Street, San Jose
>>>         http://www.sanjosepeace.org/
>>> 
>>> 6:30 Socializing and Dinner  -  7:30 Meeting
>>>         (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
>>>         so bring your own or get it from one of the
>>>         nearby restaurants)
>>> 
>>>          -- Preliminary Items --
>>> 
>>> Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
>>>     Vibes Watcher(s)  (5)
>>> Introductions and Short Announcements  (5)
>>> Revise and Affirm Agenda  (5)
>>> 
>>>          -- Main Part --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1. Treasurer's Report  (10)  Cameron
>>> 
>>> 2. State Party Business
>>>     (none)
>>> 
>>> 3. Old Business
>>>     A. Tabling  (10?)  (??)
>>>     B. Bylaws Amendment  (15)  Drew
>>>     C. Media Group Report  (5)  Andrea
>>> 
>>> 4. New Business
>>>     A. "Unreasonable Man" at Peace Center  (5)  Merriam
>>>     B. Affirm Local  (10)  Drew
>>>     C. 49ers Santa Clara Stadium Report  (10)  Michele Ryan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Total scheduled time:  1 hours, 20 minutes)
>>> 
>>>          -- Future Events --
>>> 
>>> Next GPSCC meeting  Thursday, August 2, 2007
>>> 
>>>          -- Disclaimer --
>>> 
>>> The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.  The
>>> actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
>>> present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
>>> changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
>>> reached during the meeting because of time limits.  Persons
>>> receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
>>> corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
>>> the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
>>> individuals who do not have email.
>>> 
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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri Jul  6 22:01:33 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:01:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd from my Dad] this is almost too good...
Message-ID: <468F1E2D.8000902@ispwest.com>


>>http://gophypocrites.com/2007/07/hyp07027.html
>
>>>>
>>>>July 6, 2007
>>>>GOP Hypocrite of the Week
>>>>Members of the Libby Legal Defense Trust
>>>>
>>>>Actually this week, it's a whole posse of Republican hypocrites, all the
>>>>GOP loudmouths out there talking about how Scooter Libby's pardon -- oh,
>>>>we mean commutation (the pardon comes after the 2008 election) -- is no
>>>>big deal.
>>>>
>>>>After all, Poppy Bush saved his butt and facilitated the obstruction of
>>>>justice when he pardoned the Iran-Contra felons, and in particular, kept
>>>>the late Caspar Weinberger from nailing daddy Bush. It would have been
>>>>great to see George Herbert Walker in an orange jumpsuit.
>>>>
>>>>No, the Busheviks aren't bringing that "like father, like son avoiding
>>>>jail" similarity up, but they are reminding us ad nauseam that Bill
>>>>Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, whose wife contributed a bundle to the
>>>>Democrats. Rich was used by Republicans to dirty up Clinton after he
>>>>left office, by claiming that he had basically sold the pardon for
>>>>campaign funding and contributions to his presidential library.
>>>>
>>>>The Libby Legal Defense Trust (not to be confused with the BuzzFlash.com
>>>>Libby betrayal Web site, LibbyDefenseFund.com) supporters have jumped
>>>>all over the Rich pardon as a "precedent" for the Libby "commutation,
>>>>pardon to come" action by Bush.
>>>>
>>>>Let's put aside for the moment that Rich's crimes were of the financial
>>>>sort. He didn't betray the national security of the United States, as
>>>>Libby (and Cheney, Bush, and Rove for that matter) did. Rich didn't
>>>>obstruct a federal investigation into the outing of a CIA operative
>>>>specializing in tracking the illicit sales of WMD. Let's also put aside
>>>>that Rudolph Giuliani is the one who prosecuted Rich, condemned his
>>>>pardon, but urged a pardon for Libby.
>>>>
>>>>No, let us forget these details for the moment. What makes the Rich red
>>>>herring so hypocritical is something a bit more damning.
>>>>
>>>>You see, when you are a mega-wealthy guy on the lamb seeking a
>>>>presidential pardon, you hire yourself a "K Street" lawyer to get to the
>>>>top levels of government.
>>>>
>>>>And Marc Rich had just such a powerful attorney to help seek his pardon.
>>>>His name was Scooter Libby.
>>>>
>>>>Now we just have to wonder. When all those Busheviks claim what a
>>>>travesty the Rich pardon was, and then argue that Libby has a sterling
>>>>record of service to America, how do they rationalize Libby being the
>>>>one who represented Rich's effort to redeem himself?
>>>>
>>>>Oh, we forgot for a moment. It's the GOP hypocrisy, stupid!
>>>>
>>>>This GOPHypocrites.com Web site and The GOP Hypocrite of the Week are
>>>>projects of and (C) BuzzFlash.com.
>>
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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Sat Jul  7 15:50:33 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:50:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Kudos to Sunnyvale!
Message-ID: <469018B9.7080406@ispwest.com>

I was riding down to Sunnyvale this morning to get food for
my party this evening at the Farmers Market. I took Evelyn
because that's the straightest way and I was in a hurry.

I was plesantly surprised to find out that the bike lane
no longer ends at the Mountain View border. I now goes
all the way to Sunnyvale's Murphy Avenue. It might go
further, but I pulled over at the Farmers Market.

I came back with my basket filled to the brim with
fresh produce I'm hoping you will help me eat this
evening, dear reader. We're talking about fresh apricots,
fresh tomatos that have already been chopped into salsa,
fresh German Farm Bread, fresh dips of several kinds.

Hope to see you in a few hours!

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  8 02:19:08 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 02:19:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Today CAIR Picnic in Sunnyvale,
	we are representing, come join us!
Message-ID: <795197.42922.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Come out today and support Jim Stauffer who's making
our speech to the group!  CAIR is the Center for
American Islamic Relations and they are giving us an
opportunity to introduce folks to the Green Party.


Green is embracing!

Drew


The web site
http://www.interfaithspace.org/IS-events.htm#meet0708
has the following announcement about the CAIR picnic.

Sunday, July 8, 11:00 am- 4:00 pm, Sunnyvale

CAIR Annual Family Picnic

This is an opportunity to have family fun while
educating yourself by hearing presentation from
representatives of the various political parties and
their respective candidates on vital government
issues, especially those concerning the protection of
minorities, civil liberties (racial profiling,
citizenship delays, etc.), diplomacy and foreign
policies, specifically those relevant to American
Muslims. Educational Presentations, Fun, Games for
Everyone, Raffle Prizes, Entertainment, Food and
Treats. Tickets: $10 Adults/ $5 Children / $25 Family
of 4 (Lunch Included) (No one will be turned away for
lack of funds) Sponsored by CAIR (Council on American
Islamic Relations). 
Contact*: *rsvp at cair.com <mailto:rsvp at cair.com>,
408-986-9874 Online 
registration: www.myvillage.us/my/cairsfba 
<http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=685z7acab.0.nvqamvbab.xbuqfvbab.6034&ts=S0254&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myvillage.us%2Fmy%2Fcairsfba>




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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Jul  8 17:05:31 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:05:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Stadium Article
Message-ID: <46917BCB.60200@earthlink.net>


FYI,

an article on Common Dreams about stadium building
in America.

"The Doming of America"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/08/2384/

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Jul  8 17:15:05 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:15:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NY Times on Iraq
Message-ID: <46917E09.80800@earthlink.net>


"It is time for the United States to leave Iraq, without any more delay 
than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit."

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/08/2378/

Of course, when you read the rest of it, it is not as strong
a statement as the intro would reply, but still, it is progress.

Gerry




From baalavi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 08:31:13 2007
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The French Celebrating their Revolution
Message-ID: <930677.41642.qm@web52103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20070706/wl_csm/obicyclette;_ylt=AoJo5yBjk_nS5QN.wmomvHUDW7oF
   
  Not bad at all? :)

       
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  9 16:21:09 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:21:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sheehan Versus Pelosi?
Message-ID: <4692C2E5.6090107@earthlink.net>


Cindy Sheehan is talking about campaigning against Pelosi
in 2008 if Pelosi does not put impeachment back on the table.
(NOTE: this does not mean that Sheehan would be running for
Pelosi's seat.  What it does mean is unclear except that this
is a threat to Pelosi.)

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/09/2396/

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  9 16:25:31 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:25:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sheehan Versus Pelosi?
References: <4692C2E5.6090107@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4692C3EB.8060002@earthlink.net>


Hmm, apparently she WOULD be running against Pelosi:

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/08/2386/

Gerry Gras wrote:

> Cindy Sheehan is talking about campaigning against Pelosi
> in 2008 if Pelosi does not put impeachment back on the table.
> (NOTE: this does not mean that Sheehan would be running for
> Pelosi's seat.  What it does mean is unclear except that this
> is a threat to Pelosi.)
> 
>      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/09/2396/
> 
> Gerry
> 




From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 16:40:41 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:40:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Ron Paul in MV 7-14
Message-ID: <774619.53766.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Yes I know he's not Green (Repub./Libertarian), but I
still find him interesting. Forwarding this on:

Green goes beyond!

Drew


Ron Paul in Mountain View Saturday 7-14
Date:	Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:20:15 -0400 (EDT)

The rally starts at 9 am.
Dr. Paul will speak from 10:40 to 11:20.

There is a request that people not bring special issue
signs and banners to the rally.

But they can't keep us off the public roadway.

The rally is in Charleston Park in East Mountain View
near Shoreline Park.
>From 101 take the Shoreline Blvd exit, drive north
about half mile,
west on Charleston.

http://www.ronpaulrally.com/index.html

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 17:34:01 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:34:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [G-C-F] Fwd: Has Nader said "no to Greens in
	2008"??
Message-ID: <673060.97646.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>



> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [usgp-dx] Has Nader said "no to Greens
> in 2008"?? or is 
> Gerritt stuck in 2004?
> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:35:21 -0500
> From: Phil Huckelberry <phil.huckelberry at gmail.com>
> To: natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org
> 
> The Presidential Campaign Support Committee was told
> in no uncertain 
> terms that Ralph Nader would not be seeking our
> nomination in 2008. 
> This comes directly from Nader himself, at a small
> impromptu meeting in 
> DC a few weeks ago attended by Brent McMillan, Cat
> Woods, and Liz 
> Arnone, among others.  I actually thought this was
> common knowledge by 
> now, I didn't realize it wasn't.
> 
> Phil Huckelberry
> Illinois Green Party
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  9 17:55:56 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:55:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NoVa -- North Valley Local Affirmed;
	Next Meeting this Th Ju 12th!
Message-ID: <793265.27765.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear Greens,

At the July 7th GPSCC County General meeting the North
Valley Local was affirmed.  NoVa will still need to
elect someone to be the liaison with the County
Council and make sure to record minutes of all
official business meetings.

I have transcribed the text of the petition that Fred
submitted on behalf of NoVa submitted below:

Petition to establish a LOCAL in North Santa Clara
County

To the Green Party Members of Santa Clara County
present at the July 7, 2007 membership meeting:

Whereas, there are Green Party of Santa Clara County
(GPSCC) members who wish to form a subsidiary LOCAL in
the general area of Los Altos, Los Altos Hills,
Mountain View, Palo Alto and Sunnyvale, we registered
GPSCC members, hereby, petition the GPSCC to formally
approve the establishment of such a local
organization.

1) Dana M. St. George
2) Geral S. Gras
3) Tian Harter
4) Brian C. Good
5) Bob Alavi
6) Merriam Kathaleen
7) Mark Drew Johnson
8) Lois Duperrault
9) Frederic Duperrault

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Mon Jul  9 18:06:04 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:06:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What a coincidence! Two billion people doing the
 same thing at the same time....
Message-ID: <4692DB7C.4040903@ispwest.com>

That would be participating in the Live Earth thing.
At least, that's the number I heard on my answering machine
when I got home from throwing my Live Earth party.
You can see more about that by visiting:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/My/SummerParty07/index.html

It was a fun evening! Thanks again to all who showed up.
Hopefully I'll see others of you at some future event...

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From tim at alvco.com  Mon Jul  9 22:52:49 2007
From: tim at alvco.com (Tim)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:52:49 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Democracy Now! for Monday, July 9th, 2007
Message-ID: <46931EB1.3010809@alvco.com>

http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=21149


From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Jul 10 07:57:01 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:57:01 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "BlueCross Secret Memo Re: 'Sicko' "
In-Reply-To: <468E8E5B.8060704@earthlink.net>
References: <468E8E5B.8060704@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <735BC5A7-CA47-495B-9DE3-240764332C72@cagreens.org>

Just in case you missed this one, it's worth the time to see what  
Moore's movie is doing to the "rednecks" in Big D (that's Dallas,  
Boy)....
 From a column by Josh Tyler.
Andrea  ;- )

------------------------

Long time readers of this site no doubt know that I live in Texas. As  
everyone knows there?s no more conservative state in the Union than  
here. And I don?t just live in Texas; I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth  
metroplex. Dallas isn?t some pocket of hippy-dippy behavior. This  
isn?t Austin. Dallas is the sort of place where guys in cowboy hats  
still drive around in giant SUV?s with ?W? stickers on the back  
windshield, global warming and Iraq be damned. It?s probably the only  
spot left in America where you stand a good chance of getting the  
crap kicked out of you for badmouthing the president.

So when I went to see Sicko for a second time this afternoon, I  
wasn?t sure what to expect from the audience. I wasn?t watching it  
downtown, where the city?s few elitist liberals congregate and drink  
expensive lattes. I went to a random mall in the mid-cities, where  
folks were likely to be just folks. As I sat down, right behind me  
entered an obligatory, cowboy hat wearing redneck in his 50s. He  
announced his presence by shouting across the theater in a thick  
Texas drawl to his already seated wife ?you owe me fer seein this!?

Sicko started; the stereotypical Texas guy sat down behind me and  
never stopped talking. He talked through the entire movie? and I  
listened. The first ten to twenty minutes of the film he spent  
badmouthing Moore to his wife and snorting in disgust whenever MM  
went into one of his trademark monologues. But as the movie wore on  
his protestations became quieter, less enthusiastic. Somewhere along  
the way, maybe at the half way point, right before my ears, Sicko  
changed this man?s mind. By the forty-five minute mark, he, along  
with the rest of the audience were breaking into spontaneous  
applause. He stopped pooh-poohing the movie and started shouting out  
?hell yeah!? at the screen. It was as if the whole world had been  
flipped upside down. This is Texas, where people support the  
president and voting democratic is something only done by the  
terrorists. Michael Moore should be public enemy number one.

By the time the movie was over, public enemy number one had become  
George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and John F. Kennedy all rolled  
together. When the credits rolled the audience filed out and into the  
bathrooms. At the urinals, my redneck friend couldn?t stop talking  
about the film, and I kept listening. He struck up a conversation  
with a random black man in his 40s standing next to him, and soon  
everyone was peeing and talking about just how fucked everything is.

I kept my distance, as we all finished and exited at the same time.  
Outside the restroom doors? the theater was in chaos. The entire  
Sicko audience had somehow formed an impromptu town hall meeting in  
front of the ladies room. I?ve never seen anything like it. This is  
Texas goddammit, not France or some liberal college campus. But here  
these people were, complete strangers from every walk of life talking  
excitedly about the movie. It was as if they simply couldn?t go home  
without doing something drastic about what they?d just seen. My  
redneck compadre and his new friend found their wives at the center  
of the group, while I lingered in the background waiting for my  
spouse to emerge.

The talk gradually centered around a core of 10 or 12 strangers in a  
cluster while the rest of us stood around them listening intently to  
this thing that seemed to be happening out of nowhere. The black  
gentleman engaged by my redneck in the restroom shouted for  
everyone?s attention. The conversation stopped instantly as all eyes  
in this group of 30 or 40 people were now on him. ?If we just see  
this and do nothing about it,? he said, ?then what?s the point?  
Something has to change.? There was silence, then the redneck?s wife  
started calling for email addresses. Suddenly everyone was scribbling  
down everyone else?s email, promising to get together and do  
something? though no one seemed to know quite what. It was as if I?d  
just stepped into the world?s most bizarre protest rally, except  
instead of hippies the group was comprised of men and women of every  
age, skin color, income, and walk of life coming together on  
something that had shaken them deeply, and to the core.

In all my thirty years on this earth, I have never ever seen any  
movie have this kind of unifying effect on people. It was like I was  
standing there, at the birth of a new political movement. Even after  
9/11, there was never a reaction like this, at least not in Texas. If  
Sicko truly has this sort of power, then Michael Moore has done  
something beyond amazing. If it can change people, affect people like  
this in the conservative hotbed of Texas, then Sicko isn?t just a  
great movie, seeing it may be one of the most important things you do  
all year.



On Jul 6, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
> "BlueCross Secret Memo Re: 'Sicko'"
>      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/06/2344/
>
>
> Gerry
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Jul 10 08:01:50 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:01:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Op-Ed on People of Color - for Green Focus
In-Reply-To: <8C98D4F499CD43D-151C-1988@WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C98D4F499CD43D-151C-1988@WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <9E6CF0E9-D9C2-4972-8A3C-5291B0EC34E8@cagreens.org>

Gawd, I get tired of people who can't learn from the last 30 minutes,  
let alone the past...and we'll *all* doomed to repeat, repeat, REPEAT!!
(disgusted)
Andrea

On Jul 5, 2007, at 12:10 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote:

> Dear Don,
>
> When is the next deadline for Green Focus submissions?
>
> After all the web-surfing and blogging I've been doing on CA-37,  
> now more than ever, I want to do that point-counterpoint I proposed  
> a while ago about people-of-color in the Green Party.
>
> For this to be useful, we need somebody to do the "counterpoint."   
> As you all know by now, I myself, am very much against that  
> peculiar petite bourgeois black pseudo-nationalism that is now  
> almost hegemonic among the African-American intellectuals. In my  
> humble opinion, this peculiar style of politics is a throwback to  
> the politics of the Democratic Party and liberal white universities  
> from the 1960s through the 1980s and into the 1990s.  Thus, Bill  
> Clinton could crow about appointing a cabinet that "looked like  
> America" even while they were busy screwing America.  Then, guess  
> what?  George W. Bush, of all people, appointed a cabinet that was,  
> arguably, even more "diverse" than Clinton's.  I mean, if color is  
> all you care about then two Black secretaries of state and a Latino  
> attorney general is hard to beat.
>
> Frankly, one reason I left the Democratic Party was to get away  
> from that bullshit.  I would hate to see the Green Party imitate  
> the Democrats and go down that path.  Our key values are not only  
> independent of religious dogma and "ethnic politics" but our Green  
> values are international and that is one of our greatest  
> strengths.  I want a Green Party where a "Black issue" like, say,  
> the criminal justice system and the "Latino issue" on immigration  
> are everybody's issues.
>
> I know I'm out of the mainstream, but I know I'm not crazy and I'm  
> not alone.  Among big names, Adolph Reed, Gerald Early, Angela  
> Davis, and sometimes Cornel West and Alice Walker agree with me   
> Adolph Reed is very active in the Labor Party (a waste) and his  
> position is crystal clear.  His hometown is none other than New  
> Orleans, Lousiana and Adolph Reed went so far as to argue that it  
> was a mistake for progressives to frame the Katrina debacle as a  
> "race" issue when, it's really more of a class thing.  In the world  
> of big-league politics, Ron Dellums, Barbara Lee, Jesse Jackson,  
> Jr. (not his daddy), John Lewis, and Cynthia McKinney should never  
> have been Democrats.  In their souls they are Greens.  Having lived  
> in both metropolitan areas, I gotta say there *IS* a qualitative  
> difference between the "Green" Ron Dellums and Barbara Lee and the  
> "liberal Democrat" Maxine Waters.  Maxine is a terrific liberal  
> congresswoman, but jus t like old Ted Kennedy back in Boston,  
> Maxine sits atop a Big City Machine that ain't shit!
>
> To do this right, somebody else must argue forcefully the other  
> way.  I don't want it to be said: "Oh! Those Whites Greens trotted  
> out Alex Walker to write what they like to hear."  I ain't no Green  
> Clarence Thomas!  I want people to read the two arguments side-by- 
> side and reflect.
>
>
> Alex Walker
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Jul 10 08:07:38 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:07:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS - Another GOP Senator Breaks
	with Bush
In-Reply-To: <8C98D70870E80AE-1534-959E@FWM-M25.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C98D70870E80AE-1534-959E@FWM-M25.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <85A7ABD3-509F-4125-8B18-E0808AAF64CC@cagreens.org>

I agree, Alex.
We let poor little old Reagan off the hook because of his age, AKA  
Alzheimer's, now we're letting Shrub off the hook because he's almost  
out of office.
What kind of message does that give?  Delay as long as you can and  
they (the huddled masses) think they have no standing and give up?

I say hold his feet to the fire until the last breath taken in the  
Oval Office.
Andrea

On Jul 5, 2007, at 4:08 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote:

> Dear Green Friends,
>
> Good News!  Another senior Republican senator has broken with  
> Bush's Iraq War policy.
>
> We had a heated discussion about this just last week.  The solid  
> GOP wall is finally starting to crumble.  I strongly disagree with  
> those who say the "peaceniks" should back off and play nice.
>
> No!
>
> Keep up the pressure. Impeach the bastards!  Force 'em to resign if  
> we can!
>
> To tell the truth, I am amazed myself at how the impeachment idea  
> is catching fire.  This feels a lot like it felt at the beginning  
> of the end for Nixon.  It's about damned time!
>
> Alex
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> Associated Press
> Senior GOP Senator Abandons Iraq Policy
> By MATT MYGATT and ANNE FLAHERTY 07.05.07, 6:10 PM ET
>
> Sen. Pete Domenici on Thursday withdrew his support of President  
> Bush's Iraq war policy and embraced instead a proposal to bring  
> home most troops by next March.
>
> The longtime New Mexico senator is the latest of several Republican  
> stalwarts who have abandoned Bush on Iraq in the past 10 days,  
> calling for a change sooner rather than later and further isolating  
> Bush in his attempt to defend the deeply unpopular war.
>
> Last week, Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and George Voinovich, R- 
> Ohio, said the U.S. should significantly downsize its military  
> presence in Iraq while beefing up diplomatic efforts. Sen. John  
> Warner, R-Va., is expected to propose legislation this month  
> calling for a new approach.
>
> "I have carefully studied the Iraq situation and believe we cannot  
> continue asking our troops to sacrifice indefinitely while the  
> Iraqi government is not making measurable progress to move its  
> country forward," said Dominici, who was elected in 1972 and is now  
> a senior member of a panel that oversees defense spending...
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>
> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's  
> free from AOL at AOL.com.
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 10 11:58:09 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Marching for Peace
Message-ID: <4693D6C1.3030402@earthlink.net>


Two teenagers are marching from San Francisco to
Washington, DC, for peace:

"Peace Marchers of the Loneliest Kind"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/09/2400/


They have a website:
     http://www.marchforpeace.info

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 10 11:58:21 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:58:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "On the Road for Impeachment"
Message-ID: <4693D6CD.1010705@earthlink.net>


Dave Lindorff, impeachment activist, travelled to and
around Texas with an impeachment shirt, and got only
positive responses:

"On the Road for Impeachment"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/10/2426/

Gerry



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 10 12:26:51 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:26:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS - Another GOP Senator Breaks
	with Bush
In-Reply-To: <85A7ABD3-509F-4125-8B18-E0808AAF64CC@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <729581.72863.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I say that we take our constitution seriously and
understand what impeachment is really for - its an
official rebuke that says 'we stand for the
constitution, and against this anticonstitutional
behavior'! It is not only or even primarily about
booting someone out of office. The power of
impeachment has no statute of limitations and needs to
be exercised whenever it can be accomplished, in other
words it doesn't matter if the person is out of office
or even alive still.  So Pelosi should get started now
and take whatever time it takes to get the job done. 
There is no work the congress has that is more
important than affirming our constitution.


Impeach for Peace!

Drew



--- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:

> I agree, Alex.
> We let poor little old Reagan off the hook because
> of his age, AKA  
> Alzheimer's, now we're letting Shrub off the hook
> because he's almost  
> out of office.
> What kind of message does that give?  Delay as long
> as you can and  
> they (the huddled masses) think they have no
> standing and give up?
> 
> I say hold his feet to the fire until the last
> breath taken in the  
> Oval Office.
> Andrea
> 
> On Jul 5, 2007, at 4:08 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Dear Green Friends,
> >
> > Good News!  Another senior Republican senator has
> broken with  
> > Bush's Iraq War policy.
> >
> > We had a heated discussion about this just last
> week.  The solid  
> > GOP wall is finally starting to crumble.  I
> strongly disagree with  
> > those who say the "peaceniks" should back off and
> play nice.
> >
> > No!
> >
> > Keep up the pressure. Impeach the bastards!  Force
> 'em to resign if  
> > we can!
> >
> > To tell the truth, I am amazed myself at how the
> impeachment idea  
> > is catching fire.  This feels a lot like it felt
> at the beginning  
> > of the end for Nixon.  It's about damned time!
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> > Associated Press
> > Senior GOP Senator Abandons Iraq Policy
> > By MATT MYGATT and ANNE FLAHERTY 07.05.07, 6:10 PM
> ET
> >
> > Sen. Pete Domenici on Thursday withdrew his
> support of President  
> > Bush's Iraq war policy and embraced instead a
> proposal to bring  
> > home most troops by next March.
> >
> > The longtime New Mexico senator is the latest of
> several Republican  
> > stalwarts who have abandoned Bush on Iraq in the
> past 10 days,  
> > calling for a change sooner rather than later and
> further isolating  
> > Bush in his attempt to defend the deeply unpopular
> war.
> >
> > Last week, Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and George
> Voinovich, R- 
> > Ohio, said the U.S. should significantly downsize
> its military  
> > presence in Iraq while beefing up diplomatic
> efforts. Sen. John  
> > Warner, R-Va., is expected to propose legislation
> this month  
> > calling for a new approach.
> >
> > "I have carefully studied the Iraq situation and
> believe we cannot  
> > continue asking our troops to sacrifice
> indefinitely while the  
> > Iraqi government is not making measurable progress
> to move its  
> > country forward," said Dominici, who was elected
> in 1972 and is now  
> > a senior member of a panel that oversees defense
> spending...
> >
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> >
> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out
> more about what's  
> > free from AOL at AOL.com.
> > _______________________________________________
> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> >
>
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> 
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From jims at greens.org  Tue Jul 10 19:11:28 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:11:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Blue Cross Obstructions
Message-ID: <op.tu921ed9lp2bks@adsl-69-110-40-182.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net>




Right now, Blue Cross is spending $2 million on a campaign here in  
California to derail healthcare

reform in the Legislature -- the same Blue Cross that makes more money  
here, and spends less on

patients, than any other big insurer.

Blue Cross is fighting to kill any reform this year, and we've got to  
fight back. We can get quality,

affordable healthcare in California this year -- but only if Blue Cross  
and its millions of dollars

aren't the only voice speaking in Sacramento.

That's why, today we're announcing the launch of a brand new website --  
http://SickOfBlueCross.com. Please

come by and check it out.

At SickOfBlueCross.com, we're exposing the truth behind Blue Cross's  
effort to thwart healthcare

reform in California this year while providing you with online tools to  
help you speak up and fight

back.

While you're visiting our new website, we hope you'll also join our first  
major online advocacy

campaign:  Send an email message to Governor Schwarzenegger and  
legislative leaders in Sacramento,

telling them to stand up against Blue Cross and its $2 million ?Just Say  
No? campaign -- and stand up

for healthcare reform in California this year.

Want to learn how Blue Cross is working aggressively to stifle healthcare  
reform?  Want to see how

Blue Cross is putting its own corporate profits over the lives of real  
people?  Want to read real

stories from Californians whose lives have been negatively impacted by  
Blue Cross?

You'll find all of this -- and more -- right now at  
www.SickOfBlueCross.com, so we hope you'll take a

moment to check it out.

Please visit the new SickOfBlueCross.com now!

Sincerely,

Nick DeLuca
It's OUR Healthcare

P.S.  After you've visited www.SickOfBlueCross.com, please forward this  
email to 5 other friends and

family members who share our commitment to passing healthcare reform in  
California this year.  Thanks

for your help in spreading the word!


From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue Jul 10 22:03:14 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 01:03:14 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: BAREC: City Council Meeting July 10,
	Referendum
Message-ID: <bfe.19d42135.33c5be92@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/9/07 9:13:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
kmathewson at secretgardens.com writes:

BAREC  Friends:

CITY COUNCIL MEETING TUESDAY JULY 10 7 PM:  BAREC is #6B  on the Agenda.  The
purpose of the agenda item will be to ratify the  Final Santa Clara Gardens
(BAREC) Environmental Impact Report (EIR) for the  city and state's housing
plan.  This is the same one we have been  seeing for four and one-half years.
This approval means an approval of the  soil testing method, an approval of
the way the site is cleaned up (move  some of the soil off site), and an
agreement that the property has no  historical importance.  With this
approval the Council has put into  motion that the BAREC 17 acres will be
developed to look like housing  developments all over the Valley.  The public
comment period for the  EIR is over despite the fact that over half of the
people who filled out  speaker cards at the June 19th Council meeting could
not stay until 2  am.  You may speak but your comments will not be a part of
the EIR  record.   If you would like to review EDAW's comments about the  June
19 public testimony, their comments to written records introduced  (including
comments about our two attorneys), and the recommendations for  action to the
Council from the City's Director of Planning and City  Manager, please go  to:
http://cityclerkdatabase.ci.santa-clara.ca.us/pdfCreator/Export.aspx?did=AAA
AP070706180710351.DID&db=SCAGENDA

There  are many people whose public comments were not included.  If you  are
one of these people, you should let the council know either in writing  or in
person at tomorrow's meeting.

URGENT REFERENDUM:  We have  9 days left to get 7000 signatures.  If you live
in the city of Santa  Clara or know someone who does, please sign the
Referendum.  You could  also collect signatures (only if you live in Santa
Clara or go with a Santa  Clara person), make phone calls, help us verify
that the signatures are  valid registered Santa Clara City voters, or give us
a donation  (referendums are not tax deductible).  For further information
visit  our Referendum page on our website:  www.savebarec.org,  email
referendum at savebarec.org, or call 888-BAREC-80.    

The Referendum will stop the City Council's vote to change BAREC's  zoning
from agriculture to high density housing for the senior project and  to 17
units per acre for the private developer's million dollar plus 110  units.
It will also stop their proposed change in the General Plan.   With 7000
signatures we will be able to place BAREC on the ballot so the  public can
vote to approve or disapprove the Council's BAREC  decision.  A positive vote
will then allow the plan the council  approved not to happen.  When the
citizens speak then the City Council  and the State will start listening to
us and we can have a real  conversation about what is the best use of the
BAREC 17 acres.

Thank  you for your BAREC support...

Kathryn Mathewson, Save  BAREC
kathryn at savebarec.org
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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Wed Jul 11 11:22:12 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:22:12 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is There a Free Lunch Out There?
Message-ID: <46951FD4.6060109@ispwest.com>


 >Gillian R. Foulger, Ph.D.
 >
 >Is There a Free Lunch Out There? Geothermal Energy, its Potential
 >and Challenges as a Renewable, Alternative Energy Resource
 >
 >
 >As doom and gloom predictions from scientists about global warming
 >rise to a crescendo, there is increasing public demand to know what can
 >be done about it. Basically, there are two options ? consume less, or find
 >alternative energy sources to burning hydrocarbons, preferably renewable
 >ones. Geothermal energy is one possible alternative. So how much of our
 >energy consumption does it currently satisfy? What is its realistic 
potential,
 >and what are the technical challenges to maximizing that potential? How
 >green is it really, and is it truly renewable? Does it offer a free 
lunch, or
 >are there environmental costs in utilizing it? Are your tax dollars at 
work
 >on these problems?
 >
 >Gillian R. Foulger, a full professor of Geophysics at University of 
Durham,
 >U.K., and director of her own geothermal consultancy company, will present
 >some of the hottest geothermal issues, including an overview of how this
 >fascinating resource is utilized around the world, what direction 
technology
 >is moving in, and what is going on in the US. Gillian has worked with the
 >U.S. Geological Survey for over 20 years on earthquake seismology, GPS
 >surveying and geothermal energy. Her alter ego is leader of a global 
debate
 >on whether volcanic ?hot spots? are underlain by deep mantle plumes.

Dr. Foulger began her talk by explaining that she graduated as a
geophysicist back in the '70s. Her first work in the field was in Iceland,
where she made some remarkable discoveries of geothermal resources.
Since then she has been a leading expert in the field. She has since worked
in England, Iceland and the US, often in settings where brilliant grad
students were part of the team.

Worldwide, one of the biggest users of geothermal resources are the 
Icelanders,
who get 40% of their energy from this source. Worldwide, there are about
9,000 Megawatts of electricity generated geothermally, with about 2,500
Megawatts of that being generated in the USA. Of America's piece of the
pie, 2,200 Megawatts are generated in California. Most of California's 
power
comes from The Geysers, a geothermal area near Santa Rosa that is as 
unique,
just as Hawaii is unique as a volcanic area. Most of the rest of 
California's
geothermal electric contribution comes from Coso, a geothermal area in the
Owens Valley.

The Geysers was a huge provider of geothermal power as recently as ten
years ago. When people started industrial scale power generating in the 
area
in the 1960s there was only one big turbine running on the steam from a
well. That grew steadily to a peak in the late 1980s when the reservoir
pressure reduced to alarmingly low levels.

The problem was that there were many small producers, and each of them
had an incentive to use more of the steam than anybody else. Since then the
Calpine Corporation has taken over management of the whole area, and has
got things under better control. Now about 1,200 Megawatts are generated,
and the resource is expected to last for several decades more, at which
time much of the fluid will have been mined out of the rocks.

Coso is the other big geothermal resource in California. It's the 7th 
largest
geothermal resource in the world, covering about 28 square kilometers.
It involves 177 wells, and is currently producing 300 Megawatts,
supplying electricity to about a million people. This one is being depleted
at a much slower rate than The Geysers. Dr. Foulger had good things to
say about the way the U.S. Navy is running this facility, which it owns.
So far they have got $4 billion worth of power out of it for a
$1 billion investment and are managing it wisely to maximize its potential.

Looking to the future, there are various possible ways to get geothermal
power out of the ground. One is to drill a deep well to mine heat 
directly of
the magma beneath volcanoes. Dr. Foulger "wouldn't bet her pension on
that one", but considers it an interesting idea in the Chinese sense. 
Another
is to put a coil under the ground in the yard, far enough below the surface
that the temperature is fairly constant. With a heat exchanger it is energy
efficient to get heat from there during the winter and sink heat there in
the summer. She said this kind of thing is becoming ever more common in
Europe.

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 11 11:24:03 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:24:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] More re Michael Moore and Sicko
Message-ID: <46952043.5050809@earthlink.net>


"Michael Moore Takes On CNN"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/11/2446/

"We spend Far More, but Our Health Care is Falling Behind"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/10/2425/

Gerry



From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Wed Jul 11 14:40:27 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 11 Jul 2007 21:40:27 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is There a Free Lunch Out There?
Message-ID: <20070711214027.21069.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


My grandfather had an all electric house in Sarasota, part of the
mid-60s building boom there.  He was really proud of its
ammonia adsorbtion heat pump.  It had a heat exchanger sunk into
the water table about fifteen feet below the house.
He was a chemical engineer and thought it was ridiculous to use
any other process for refrigeration.  Cost about a tenth as much
to run as a conventional "air conditioner" and took up about
three times as much volume.

I never heard of such a machine again until I took thermodynamics.
Apparently it's common for hockey rinks and chilled warehouses
but seldom used for smaller things any more despite being widely
known as the most efficient refrigeration technology.
Even for a conventional air conditioner, ammonia beats hell out of
freon or hydrocarbons, and in real world conditions it's no more
dangerous.  Bring back ammonia.  Freon is a crock, and that includes
the so-called "safer for the ozone" HCFCs.

Geothermal goes with heat pumps.  Part of a whole class of
technologies that never get a chance because of their competition's
dominant incumbency.  We talk about photovoltaics a lot, but
how often do you hear environmental groups advocating solar
thermal concentrators?  Straw bale houses?  Whatever happened
to plain old steel stud?  Hemp for paper and textiles.
And my fave, ultralight tubular rail, which is just never gonna
get a chance.

Aargh.  Another technological pet peeve.  Or three.


Cameron



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Jul 11 15:11:58 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:11:58 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?iso-8859-1?q?=22Pennsylvania_Democrats_Want_N?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?ader_to_Pay_for_Bush=27s_Election=22?=
Message-ID: <469555AE.9090409@earthlink.net>


Apparently they are getting ready to seize $61,000 from
a Nader account for his campaign in Pennsylvania.  The
article does not explain why, but the comments after it
seem to explain it, in part.

Of the 58 Comments (so far), nearly all are pro Nader,
anti Dem.  I suppose that says more about Common Dreams
readers, not the American electorate.

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/11/2460/

Gerry



From baalavi at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 20:56:45 2007
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:56:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] http://stopiranwar.com/
Message-ID: <734713.82444.qm@web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://stopiranwar.com/
   
  a website where Gen. Wesley Clark and some Iraq vets started 
to inform Americans ... to prevent a military action against Iran. 



       
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 11 21:15:05 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:15:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] House speaker faces 'impeach' chants at
	ribbon-cutting
Message-ID: <724693.3459.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

San Jose Mercury News:
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_6335233

House speaker faces 'impeach' chants at ribbon-cutting
By SCOTT LINDLAW Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 07/09/2007 05:54:48 PM PDT

SAN FRANCISCO?It should have been a festive occasion
for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, but the ribbon-cutting
of a new federal building turned into a skirmish with
anti-war protesters.

About a dozen people chanted "Impeach now!" as Pelosi
spoke at the dedication of the $144 million, 18-story
landmark office complex, which boasts cutting-edge
energy efficiency features. The demonstrators also
unfurled a large "impeach" banner that directly faced
Pelosi and other speakers.

As Pelosi and other dignitaries prepared to snip the
ceremonial ribbon, a heckler shouted: "How about
cutting the funding for war?"

Pelosi ignored the protesters, who were loud enough to
compete with her remarks, but not loud enough to drown
her out. The event was held outdoors, with invited
guests kept outside a police barricade but well within
shouting distance.

However, a Bush administration official fired back at
the demonstrators, accusing them of not paying taxes.
Peter G. Stamison, appointed by President Bush as the
General Services Administration's top official for the
Pacific Rim region, acted as master of ceremonies.

"I think we all as taxpayers?those of us taxpayers, as
opposed to you people back there?are the ones that
make this work," Stamison said of the government
efforts that brought the new building to life.

"Excuse me, I pay taxes!" a protester yelled.

After the ribbon-cutting, Pelosi told reporters she
hopes to present "once again
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to the president the resolution that said, the
redeployment out of Iraq must be completed by no later
than April 1, 2008."

Asked about Iraqi leaders' warnings Monday that the
country might collapse if American troops leave too
quickly, Pelosi said: "Well, it's a disaster now."

"It would be hard to describe a situation worse than
what President Bush has gotten us into there," Pelosi
said.

Pelosi's comments came before The Associated Press
reported Monday that a progress report on Iraq,
expected to be delivered later this week, will
conclude that the U.S.-backed government has not met
any of its targets for political, economic and other
reform, according to a U.S. official who spoke on
condition of anonymity because the draft is still
under discussion.

Democrats "have a strategic vision for the Middle
East, and that vision must begin by redeploying our
troops out of Iraq," Pelosi said at the
ribbon-cutting.

She said legislation calling on Bush to adopt
recommendations by the Iraq Study Group, which
identified a potential redeployment date of spring
2008, would not go far enough.

"We have to do more," she said.

Pelosi ignored a question about Cindy Sheehan, an
anti-war activist and mother of a slain soldier who
has decided to challenge Pelosi for her congressional
seat unless she moves to impeach Bush.

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Wed Jul 11 23:51:08 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:51:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: WHO READS WHAT
Message-ID: <4695CF5C.3000209@ispwest.com>

*
WHO READS WHAT*

 

 

1. The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who run the country.

 

2. The Washington Post is read by people who think they run the country.

 

3. The New York Times is read by people who think they should run the
     country and who are very good at crossword puzzles.

 

4. USA Today is read by people who think they ought to run the country
     but don't really understand The New York Times. They do, however,
     like their statistics shown in pie charts.

 

5. The Los Angeles Times is read by people who wouldn't mind
     running the country -- if they could find the time -- and if they 
didn't
     have to leave Southern California to do it.

 

6. The Boston Globe is read by people whose parents used to run
     the country and did a far superior job of it, thank you very much.

 

7. The New York Daily News is read by people who aren't too sure
     who's running the country and don't really care as long as they
     can get a seat on the train.

 

8. The New York Post is read by people who don't care who's running
     the country as long as they do something really scandalous,
     preferably while intoxicated.

 

9. The Miami Herald is read by people who are running another
     country but need the baseball scores.

 

10. The San Francisco Chronicle is read by people who aren't sure
     there is a country ... or that anyone is running it; but if so, they
     oppose all that they stand for. There are occasional exceptions
     if the leaders are happen to be illegal aliens from any other country
     or galaxy provided, of course, that they are not Republicans.

 

11. The National Enquirer is read by people trapped in line at the
     grocery store.

 

12.  None of these are read by the guy who is running  the country
     into the ground.


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 12 00:41:05 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:41:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Info Request (again)
Message-ID: <4695DB11.5080004@earthlink.net>


The only response to this that I saw was from Tian about
providing a platform (summary?).  I can use that if necessary,
but don't we have something better?  Maybe the 10KV and a
page comparing us to the Ds and Rs?

Gerry


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Info Request
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:00:01 -0700
From: Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org


We received a call today on the GPSCC phone line.
He wants to get a "pamphlet" about us.  Dana's
out of appropriate info.  Does anyone have
suitable literature for mailing (San Jose)?

Gerry



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 04:00:35 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Boxer: "Impeachment should be on the table"
Message-ID: <735511.52647.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

A Senator Speaks Up 
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/24557

Barbara Boxer: "Impeachment should be on the table" -
Ed Schultz Show 7/11/07

She was the only Senator who cared to examine the
credibility of the election results in Ohio. She is
the only Senator willing to stand with 54 percent of
Americans for the rule of law now. What would we do
without Barbara Boxer?

Please call her at 202-224-3553 and thank her, and ask
her to please speak with Nancy Pelosi.

Email Sen. Boxer here.


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 12 04:02:38 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:02:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 15 Congress Members for Impeachment
Message-ID: <305644.25462.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/24531
15 Congress Members for Impeachment
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-07-11 14:08.
Impeachment

By David Swanson

Congressman Sam Farr (D., Calif.) is the latest member
of Congress to respond to intense pressure from his
constituents and co-sponsor H Res 333, articles of
impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney. The
official list of co-sponsors at thomas.loc.gov
includes 11 names, plus the original sponsor
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D., Ohio). That makes 12.
In addition, Congressman Bob Filner (D., Calif.) has
said he will sign on, and has said so publicly in
media interviews including this one:
http://www.atlantaprogressivenews.com/news/0189.html

That makes 13, or 14 with Farr. Then there is
Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. (D., Ill.) who has not
signed onto H Res 333 or introduced his own articles
of impeachment against Cheney or Bush, but who
recently released this statement:

"In her first weeks as leader of the Congress, Speaker
Nancy Pelosi withdrew the notion of impeachment
proceedings against either President Bush or Vice
President Cheney [actually she did that 8 months
earlier, and Jackson began parroting her line right
away, but who's counting]. With the president's
decision to once again subvert the legal process and
the will of the American people by commuting the
sentence of convicted felon Lewis 'Scooter' Libby, I
call on House Democrats to reconsider impeachment
proceedings. Lewis Libby was convicted of lying under
oath to cover up the outing of active, undercover CIA
agent, Valerie Plame. It is beyond unthinkable that
the president would undermine the legal process to
protect a man who engaged in treason against the
United States government, threatening the security of
the American people. In November's election, voters
put Democrats in charge of Congress because they
believed our pledge of oversight and accountability.
Now it's time for us to honor that pledge. The
Executive Branch should be held responsible for its
illegalities. Our democratic system is grounded in the
principle of checks and balances. When the Executive
Branch disregards the will of the people, our
lawmakers must not be silent. Today's actions, coupled
with the president's unwillingness to comply with
Senate and House inquiries, leave Democrats with no
other option than to consider impeachment so that we
can gather the information needed to achieve justice
for all Americans."

If Jackson signs onto H Res 333, there will be 15
cosponsors.

Sam Farr represents Santa Cruz, California, the first
city in the country to have passed a resolution
demanding impeachment. Santa Cruz city council passed
that first resolution in 2003, and passed another in
2006. Santa Cruz is also home to COIN (Coalition for
Impeachment Now) led by local organizers Sherry
Conable and Louis LaFortune. Following Santa Cruz's
lead, a total of at least 79 towns and cities have
passed resolutions demanding the impeachment of Cheney
and / or Bush: http://impeachpac.org/resolutions-list

Of all the polling companies in the United States,
only one has ever polled, and only once, on whether
Americans want Cheney impeached. 54 percent of
Americans and 76 percent of Democrats said Yes.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/polling

Counting Farr and Jackson, a total of 3 percent of
Congress Members and 6 percent of Democratic Congress
Members have taken the position shared by over
three-quarters of Democrats, 51 percent of
Independents, and 17 percent of Republicans around the
country.

Meanwhile, Cheney's popularity has reached a record
low, with 13 percent of the country in favor of his
performance. And that figure actually comes from May,
prior to the most recent few scandals and exposed
abuses of power:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/09/polls-cheney-nears-quayle-as-least-popular-veep

What will it take for Congress to act? The majority of
the people want it, and the least popular Vice
President in history can't be all that intimidating,
can he? Isn't it time we started intimidating him?
http://www.impeachcheney.org

People from around the country are headed to
Washington on July 23rd to find out whether pressure
from the citizens of this republic counts for anything
anymore: http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/24450


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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jul 12 18:21:36 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:21:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We did it! And the Commuting of Libby's
	Sentencing
In-Reply-To: <20070712202234.19504.19807.qmail@omail3.sac.getactive.com>
References: <20070712202234.19504.19807.qmail@omail3.sac.getactive.com>
Message-ID: <A50BA126-75F9-42FE-A897-B92AF5E53D8C@cagreens.org>

What is really infuriating is that Bush did not pardon, he commuted  
the sentence so that Libby is free to refuse to testify or give any  
information on the other scoundrels involved in the outing of Plame.   
No doubt after Bush is safely out of office, he (or a "friend")  will  
pardon Libby.
It's an end-run around the powers of the other two branches of our  
government, and an insult to those branches and to the people of this  
country.
Impeachment is the only answer, otherwise these excesses are  
"rewarded" and will continue, even in other administrations.
Regards,
Andrea Dorey
(voter and supporter from your very first term)

On Jul 12, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Barbara Boxer wrote:

> <boxer_banner.gif>
> Dear Andrea,
>
>
>
>  Invite 5 friends to join our community!
>
>
> Two weeks ago, I asked our BarbaraBoxer.com community to help us  
> reach an ambitious fundraising goal of $2 million cash-on-hand  
> before the June 30th filing deadline. And boy did our community  
> deliver.
>
> We'll be announcing the exact total in the next few days, but I can  
> tell you today that thanks to our community's help, we went well  
> beyond that $2 million mark -- and will put our opponents on notice  
> that we're already getting prepared for 2010!
>
> Not only that, we added over 10,000 new donors to our 2010  
> campaign. It's only with the support of our BarbaraBoxer.com  
> community that I can continue to fight, day in and day out, for a  
> better America in the United States Senate.
>
> But as we celebrate this good news, you and I know that there is  
> still much more work to do. You don't have to look much further  
> than last week, when right before the July 4th holiday, President  
> Bush commuted Scooter Libby's jail sentence. Scooter Libby was part  
> of a coordinated White House operation to punish a leading war  
> critic, Joe Wilson, by "outing" his wife's identity as a covert CIA  
> agent. This was just one more example of this Administration's  
> efforts to squelch dissent on the Iraq war at any cost.
>
> The President promised to "take the appropriate action" if he  
> discovered that anyone in his Administration outed Valerie Plame --  
> and now I guess we see what action he had in mind.
>
> But we are not standing by silently as President Bush tries to  
> stifle dissent and pursue a failed strategy in Iraq. Fortunately,  
> more and more members of Congress are now recognizing what we've  
> known for many months: our men and women in uniform are still  
> caught in the middle of a bloody civil war in Iraq with no end in  
> sight.
>
> Key Republicans like Senator Dick Lugar from Indiana, the Ranking  
> Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, and Senator Pete  
> Domenici of New Mexico are already starting to call for a change to  
> the Administration's policy in Iraq. It's our job to keep up the  
> pressure and put an end to this war. Our troops can't wait any longer.
>
> That's why my colleagues in the Senate and I are holding a debate  
> about the Defense Authorization Bill this week, which will  
> determine the military budget for the next year.The goal is to push  
> for withdrawal plans now -- because, like you, I know that we need  
> to change direction and end this war. The recent "surge" of tens of  
> thousands of troops has done nothing but put more and more of our  
> brave service men and women in harm's way.
>
> Together, by continuing to speak out and fight for what's right, we  
> will put America back on track. But we need even more people to  
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>
> So please invite 5 friends to join our BarbaraBoxer.com community  
> and help us change the direction of our country.
>
> Thank you so much for your continued support. I couldn't keep  
> fighting without you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Sat Jul 14 07:03:04 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 07:03:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
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References: <BAY115-F2500420AB170F677FD45209E030@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BD362106-5B8C-4522-9934-67B0C3A873D1@cagreens.org>

WOW!!
I especially loved the "Good Night and Good Luck"!!
Thanks for sharing this, Brian.
Andrea

On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Brian Good wrote:

> Blistering 10 minute rant
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
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From kaisha_marie at comcast.net  Sat Jul 14 08:17:51 2007
From: kaisha_marie at comcast.net (Kaisha Torres)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:17:51 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
In-Reply-To: <BD362106-5B8C-4522-9934-67B0C3A873D1@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <KCEEIJNPLAKBEGLBHEGMAEKFCFAA.kaisha_marie@comcast.net>

I agree! Scathing yet so apt. I cannot believe more people are not up in
arms right now. The day I found out about this, I felt sick to my stomach.
That King George so obviously usurped the very law of this land he swore an
oath to uphold causes me a great deal of anxiety. How is it the American
people are still asleep after this flagrant abuse of power? I am sending
this to everyone I know.

Kaisha

-----Original Message-----
From: sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org
[mailto:sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org]On Behalf Of Andrea Dorey
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:03 AM
To: Brian Good
Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney


WOW!!
I especially loved the "Good Night and Good Luck"!!
Thanks for sharing this, Brian.
Andrea

On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Brian Good wrote:

> Blistering 10 minute rant
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Sat Jul 14 09:56:16 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 14 Jul 2007 16:56:16 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
Message-ID: <20070714165616.32586.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


>From: "Kaisha Torres" <kaisha_marie at comcast.net>
>To: <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:17:51 -0700
>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
>Reply-To: kaisha_marie at comcast.net

>I agree! Scathing yet so apt. I cannot believe more people are not up in
>arms right now.
> I am sending
>this to everyone I know.


Unfortunately, "everyone you know" will not be able to play the video.
The MSNBC site is rigged so that it will only send the stream
to certain clients.  It goes through a sequence
of tests to lock out users of non-commercial software.

The page in the URL has three Flash movies on it.  The two CDW
advertisements play on any browser.  The Olbermann video doesn't.
One more example of intentional anticompetitive behavior by MSFT.


Cameron




>From: sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org
>[mailto:sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org]On Behalf Of Andrea Dorey
>Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:03 AM
>To: Brian Good
>Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney


>WOW!!
>I especially loved the "Good Night and Good Luck"!!
>Thanks for sharing this, Brian.
>Andrea

>On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Brian Good wrote:

>> Blistering 10 minute rant
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
>>


From tnharter at ispwest.com  Sat Jul 14 13:58:09 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Immediate Action needed on Dream Act
Message-ID: <469938E1.9080901@ispwest.com>

*I was asked to forward this by an old friend who is a Quaker Activist.

Tian

*
<http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=380695305&url_num=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nilc.org%2FNILC_Logo.gif>
*DREAM*

Please send all email responses to vargas at nilc- dc.org 
<Compose?To=vargas at nilc-dc.org>.

*SENATE LIKELY TO VOTE ON DREAM ACT NEXT WEEK! *
****IMMEDIATE ACTION NEEDED****
/Friday, July 13, 2007/
Today, Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) announced that next week he, Chuck 
Hagel (R-NE) and Richard Lugar (R-IN) will introduce the DREAM Act as an 
amendment to H.R. 1585, the Department of Defense authorization bill, 
which is now being debated in the Senate. The amendment will need 60 
votes to pass. Its adoption would be a giant step forward for the DREAM 
Act, which would then stand an excellent chance of becoming law this year.
The provisions of the DREAM Act amendment are expected to be word for 
word identical to S. 774, the bill that Senators Durbin, Hagel, and 
Lugar introduced earlier this Spring.  It would provide a 6-year path to 
permanent residence and eventual citizenship for individuals brought to 
the U.S. years ago as undocumented children if they graduate from high 
school and continue on to college or military service.
We do not yet know when the vote will be, and it is possible that 
procedural obstacles could prevent one from occurring at all. But 
regardless, it is imperative for all DREAM Act supporters to call your 
Senators /and /click here 
<http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=380695305&url_num=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democracyinaction.org%2Fdia%2ForganizationsORG%2FNILC%2Fcampaign.jsp%3Fcampaign_KEY%3D12129> 
to send an e-mail message to them today, and again tomorrow, and again 
every day until the vote occurs. You can find your Senators' phone 
numbers here 
<http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=380695305&url_num=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.senate.gov%2Fgeneral%2Fcontact_information%2Fsenators_cfm.cfm>. 

We expect anti-immigrant groups to spread falsehoods about the DREAM Act 
and to try to inflame their base to intimidate Senators like they did in 
the recent Senate debate about immigration reform. But DREAM Act 
supporters are passionate too. We can and must fight back and match 
their intensity.
*CALL BOTH OF YOUR SENATORS AND TELL THEM*
*"PLEASE VOTE _FOR_ THE DURBIN-HAGEL- LUGAR
_DREAM ACT_ AMENDMENT TO H.R. 1585
SO THAT IMMIGRANT STUDENTS BROUGHT HERE AS CHILDREN
CAN REALIZE THEIR POTENTIAL"*
*Your Senators' phone numbers are online at:
http://www.senate. gov/general/ contact_informat ion/senators_ cfm.cfm 
<http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=380695305&url_num=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.senate.gov%2Fgeneral%2Fcontact_information%2Fsenators_cfm.cfm>* * *
*To send an e-mail message to your Senators please go to:
http://www.democrac yinaction. org/dia/organiza tionsORG/ NILC/campaign. 
jsp?campaign_ KEY=12129 
<http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=380695305&url_num=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democracyinaction.org%2Fdia%2ForganizationsORG%2FNILC%2Fcampaign.jsp%3Fcampaign_KEY%3D12129>*
*What else you can do:*

    * Forward this message to every listserv and everyone you know
    * Post it on blogs, MySpace, Facebook, or other on-line networking
      tools
    * Call in to C-SPAN or other radio or television shows where there
      is some hope of a sympathetic audience (not anti-immigrant
      propaganda sites)

*The DREAM Act in Brief:*
_The DREAM Act is narrowly tailored_
It would apply only to individuals brought to the U.S. at least 5 years 
ago as children, who have grown up here, and who have remained in school 
and out of trouble. They could get a green card 6 years after graduating 
from high school if during that time they continue on to college or 
serve in the military.
_The DREAM Act is not a "mini-amnesty"_
At its core, amnesty is forgiveness for wrongdoing. That does not apply 
to DREAM Act students who were all brought here years ago as children. 
The DREAM Act rewards them for staying in school or serving our country.
_The DREAM Act would benefit taxpayers_
The DREAM Act would provide hope to immigrant students and lead many 
more of them to remain in school. As an example of the fiscal benefits 
of this, a RAND study showed that a 30-year-old Mexican immigrant woman 
who graduates from college will pay $5,300 more in taxes and cost $3,900 
less in government expenses each year than if she had dropped out of 
high school. This amounts to an annual fiscal benefit of over $9,000 per 
person every year, money that can be used to pay for the education of 
other children. State and local taxpayers have already invested in the 
education of these children in elementary and secondary school and 
deserve to get a return on their investment
You can find more information about the DREAM Act here 
<http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=380695305&url_num=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnilc.org%2Fimmlawpolicy%2FDREAM%2Findex.htm>.

-- 
Tian
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Latest change: Live Earth party on 07/07/07 pictures and commentary. 
Thanks to all who attended my 7/7/7 party! We had a great time...



From gyral at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 15:13:59 2007
From: gyral at yahoo.com (Sam Rafter)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:13:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
In-Reply-To: <mailman.29.1184439634.10258.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <954379.97696.qm@web42105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If you're having trouble getting the video from MSNBC, the good people over at
YouTube can help out in this particular situation:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NN-eGOtBGbg

> Message: 3
> Date: 14 Jul 2007 16:56:16 -0000
> From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Message-ID: <20070714165616.32586.qmail at truffula.sj.ca.us>
> 
> 
> >From: "Kaisha Torres" <kaisha_marie at comcast.net>
> >To: <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:17:51 -0700
> >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
> >Reply-To: kaisha_marie at comcast.net
> 
> >I agree! Scathing yet so apt. I cannot believe more people are not up in
> >arms right now.
> > I am sending
> >this to everyone I know.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, "everyone you know" will not be able to play the video.
> The MSNBC site is rigged so that it will only send the stream
> to certain clients.  It goes through a sequence
> of tests to lock out users of non-commercial software.
> 
> The page in the URL has three Flash movies on it.  The two CDW
> advertisements play on any browser.  The Olbermann video doesn't.
> One more example of intentional anticompetitive behavior by MSFT.
> 
> 
> Cameron


> >From: sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org
> >[mailto:sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org]On Behalf Of Andrea Dorey
> >Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:03 AM
> >To: Brian Good
> >Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
> 
> 
> >WOW!!
> >I especially loved the "Good Night and Good Luck"!!
> >Thanks for sharing this, Brian.
> >Andrea
> 
> >On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Brian Good wrote:
> 
> >> Blistering 10 minute rant
> >>
> >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
> >>
> 



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From alexcathy at aol.com  Sat Jul 14 18:11:52 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:11:52 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Another Comment on Ron Paul
Message-ID: <8C994944356F553-B64-11134@MBLK-R06.sysops.aol.com>

Crazy Ron Paul is still hot on the Internet and I read about his appearance in Silicon Valley yesterday. 

I wrote a post on two blogs on this subject. 

The DailyKos: Ron Paul - Walter Williams 2008? - Ridiculous!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/14/201942/729 

California Greening:? Ron Paul-Walter Williams '08 - Old "Race" Politics
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/14/201942/729 

I hate posting to the DailyKos, but I do care about this subject and a lot more "eyeballs" will see what I wrote over there even if scrolls off the front page in an hour. 


Ron Paul Libertarians think they're being "clever" by hinting Mr.
Paul would choose Black economist, Walter E. Williams, as his running
mate.


In a comment on Green Commons, Colby Peterson played the "Walter Williams card":


 


You can disagree with him politically, but you cannot say he's
not for an equitable society or for equal opportunity. This is just a
different method to the same ends.??Were you even aware that Ron Paul
is considering an Black man (Walter E. Williams) as his running mate????





In fact, they have inadvertently "outted" themselves as captives of
the idiotic old "race" politics as practiced by cynical Democrats and
Republicans for nearly forty years --?pointing to their favorite
handpicked token Negro or Hispanic and saying: "See! I love Clarence
Thomas (or Ron Brown, or Henry Cisneros, or Condolezza Rice, or Alberto
Gonzalez), therefore, I'm a nice guy!"





Here's the problem: I have followed Walter E. Williams career for many years and the man is a total rightwing nutcase!? 


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 14 18:33:17 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:33:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Ron Paul in Mountain View]
Message-ID: <4699795D.8010200@earthlink.net>


Alex,

Here is a copy of an email I sent to an out of state
friend who likes Ron Paul.

I did not hear any mention of Walter Williams.

In your email, you gave the DailyKos URL for both
the Daily Kos post and the California Greening post.
What is the URL for the California Greening post?

Gerry


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Ron Paul in Mountain View
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:14:37 -0700
From: Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
To: <deleted>


Ron Paul was in Mountain View this morning, in Charleston
Park, between the Shoreline amphitheatre and a Google
building.

There were, of course, a few speakers before Ron Paul.
One was named Griffin, who I guess is an expert on
something, and may have written a book about it.

Another was a former IRS investigator, I don't know his
name.  He once was happy to be an investigator for the
IRS.  THe someone introduced him to the idea that the
IRS was illegal.  He did some research and concluded
that the IRS was illegal.  He took some concerns to
his management and asked him/them for a response.
The response was to ignore his concerns and give him
some paperwork for resigning.  So he resigned.

I am sure you know better than I Ron Paul's talking
points, so I'll just summarize what I can remember,
(I did not take notes):
- against the Iraq War
- return the currency to the gold/silver standard
- eliminate the income tax
- phase out Social Security and Medicare slowly,
    essentially by making it optional instead of mandatory
- get the U.S. out of the U.N.?  (I think he said that,
    but it might have been one of the other speakers)
- eliminate the Federal Reserve
- I'm fuzzy on this point, but the general gist was a
    much less aggressive foreing policy

At some point he said that there would be plenty of
money to pay for things if you end the war in Iraq.

There was no Q and A.  Too bad.

I met someone, named Bruce, who campaigned for Nader in 2000,
but who is supporting Ron Paul.  So is his girl friend.  I
don't know which came first.

I estimated the crowd size at about 400, Bruce estimated
about 600.

In various informal conversions afterwards, I met several
people who ranged from skeptical about the government story
about 9-11 to believing 9-11 was an inside job.  Off hand
it seemed to me that theior reactions to the 9-11 issue
were similar to Greens.  One woman said that a poll showed
that only 16% believed the governemnt story.

That's all I can think of for now.

Gerry




From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 14 22:00:46 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:00:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Transcript of Bill Moyers Journal : "Tough Talk
	On Impeachment"
Message-ID: <435019.43773.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In case you missed it - Bill Moyers had a show on
impeachment the other night -laid out the case
beautifully you can read the transcript here:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript4.html


Impeach for Peace!

Drew

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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Sun Jul 15 01:56:30 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:56:30 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Ralph Nader: An Unreasonable Man"/co-sponsored
	by SCCGP 7/20 at Peace Center
Message-ID: <c92.eb47f3f.33cb3b3e@aol.com>

Hi All,

At this month's business meeting we agreed to co-sponsor the Ralph Nader film 
at the San Jose Peace Center Friday night film series.  The film is showing 
this Friday 7/20 at 7:00pm.

Sponsorship means we will provide the following:

                Refreshments (drinks & finger food)
                Setting up chairs
                Speaker for introduction of the movie
                Speakers for the after movie discussion 

As co-sponsor we will split with the Peace Center the night's donations.

I need volunteers to help with the night's festivities:

Refreshments
       Please let me know if you can bring food or drinks

Setting up chairs (setup is at 6:15pm)
       Please let me know if you can volunteer

Speaker for introduction ( one person/3-5 minute intro)
       Please let me know who will volunteer for this position

Speakers for after movie discussion (3)
       Please let me know who will volunteer

Thanks,
Merriam
mkmusic03 at aol.com


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 15 07:06:36 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
In-Reply-To: <954379.97696.qm@web42105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <900712.68230.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Greens,

The following site includes both video and transcript:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070407Y.shtml


Green is common sense!

Drew

--- Sam Rafter <gyral at yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you're having trouble getting the video from
> MSNBC, the good people over at
> YouTube can help out in this particular situation:
> 
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=NN-eGOtBGbg
> 
> > Date: 14 Jul 2007 16:56:16 -0000
> > From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Kaisha Torres" <kaisha_marie at comcast.net>
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:17:51 -0700
> > 
> > >I agree! Scathing yet so apt. I cannot believe
> more people are not up in arms right now.
> > > I am sending this to everyone I know.
> > 
> > 
> > Unfortunately, "everyone you know" will not be
> able to play the video.
> > The MSNBC site is rigged so that it will only send
> the stream to certain clients.  It goes through a
sequence of tests to lock out users of non-commercial
> software.
> > 
> > The page in the URL has three Flash movies on it. 
> The two CDW advertisements play on any browser.  The
Olbermann video doesn't.
> > One more example of intentional anticompetitive
> behavior by MSFT.
> > 
> > 
> > Cameron
> 
> 
> From: Andrea Dorey
> > >Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:03 AM
> > 
> > >WOW!!
> > >I especially loved the "Good Night and Good
> Luck"!!
> > >Thanks for sharing this, Brian.
> > >Andrea
> > 
> > >On Jul 3, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Brian Good wrote:
> > 
> > >> Blistering 10 minute rant
> > >>
> > >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/

___________________

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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Sun Jul 15 09:09:05 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 15 Jul 2007 16:09:05 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
Message-ID: <20070715160905.2612.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


>Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com>
>To: scc <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Olbermann on Libby, Bush, Cheney
>Reply-To: JamBoi at Greens.org

>Greens,

>The following site includes both video and transcript:

>http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/070407Y.shtml


As Sam pointed out, You Tube is pretty much browser neutral,
unlike the Microsoft-General Electric site.


Truthout, like Moveon, is a source of email spam.
Anybody can put any address on its mailing list.

Someone went through and signed up a bunch of the
GP of Cal mailman lists a while ago, adding to the
workload of the list owner/moderators.
Many of those list owners have already given up
on their own garbage queues, so guess who gets
to clean them out.

There are harrassment programs which automatically
sign the victim up to hundreds of such non-confirming
mailing lists.  Truthout and Moveon have both been
informed of this problem and refuse to move to
the industry standard of confirmed opt-in.
That makes them part of the movement by corporate media,
the ACLU, and the big telcos to destroy the public email
system.  (The ACLU thinks spamming, like money,
is "free speech.")

I won't refer anyone to either site until they
drop the "we're too important" attitude
and join the consensus governed Internet community.


Cameron





>--- Sam Rafter <gyral at yahoo.com> wrote:

>> If you're having trouble getting the video from
>> MSNBC, the good people over at
>> YouTube can help out in this particular situation:
>> 
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=NN-eGOtBGbg
>> 
>> > Date: 14 Jul 2007 16:56:16 -0000
>> > From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >From: "Kaisha Torres" <kaisha_marie at comcast.net>
>> > >Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:17:51 -0700
>> > 
>> > >I agree! Scathing yet so apt. I cannot believe
>> more people are not up in arms right now.
>> > > I am sending this to everyone I know.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Unfortunately, "everyone you know" will not be
>> able to play the video.
>> > The MSNBC site is rigged so that it will only send
>> the stream to certain clients.  It goes through a
>sequence of tests to lock out users of non-commercial
>> software.
>> > 
>> > The page in the URL has three Flash movies on it. 
>> The two CDW advertisements play on any browser.  The
>Olbermann video doesn't.
>> > One more example of intentional anticompetitive
>> behavior by MSFT.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Cameron


From jbrooks at ihot.com  Sun Jul 15 08:47:37 2007
From: jbrooks at ihot.com (Jeff Brooks TASC)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Ralph Nader: An Unreasonable
 Man"/co-sponsoredby SCCGP 7/20 at Peace Center
References: <c92.eb47f3f.33cb3b3e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <469A4199.4EFFCF30@ihot.com>

I have purchased and read and annotated and cross referenced Al Gore's
new book, "Assualt on Reason."  I could take questions or speak for 5-10
minutes.

MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> At this month's business meeting we agreed to co-sponsor the Ralph
> Nader film at the San Jose Peace Center Friday night film series.  The
> film is showing this Friday 7/20 at 7:00pm.
>
> Sponsorship means we will provide the following:
>
>              Refreshments (drinks & finger food)
>              Setting up chairs
>              Speaker for introduction of the movie
>              Speakers for the after movie discussion
>
> As co-sponsor we will split with the Peace Center the night's
> donations.
>
> I need volunteers to help with the night's festivities:
>
> Refreshments
>        Please let me know if you can bring food or drinks
>
> Setting up chairs (setup is at 6:15pm)
>        Please let me know if you can volunteer
>
> Speaker for introduction ( one person/3-5 minute intro)
>        Please let me know who will volunteer for this position
>
> Speakers for after movie discussion (3)
>        Please let me know who will volunteer
>
> Thanks,
> Merriam
> mkmusic03 at aol.com
>
>
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From jims at greens.org  Sun Jul 15 19:12:00 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:12:00 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Regional Picnic Next Weekend
Message-ID: <op.tvjcd00qlp2bks@adsl-69-110-41-46.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net>


Reminder / Update

Our regional picnic will be July 21 in San Mateo Central Park.

A map is now available at  
http://cagreens.org/sclara/events/SanMateoPark.pdf
(use this link to download the map since our 'events' page seems to be out  
of order)


-- 
Jim


From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun Jul 15 22:38:24 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:38:24 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Ralph Nader: An Unreasonable
	Man"/co-sponsored by SCCG...
Message-ID: <ca5.137274ef.33cc5e50@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/15/07 1:56:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
MKmusic03 at aol.com writes:

Hi All,

At this month's business meeting we agreed  to co-sponsor the Ralph Nader 
film at the San Jose Peace Center Friday night  film series.  The film is showing 
this Friday 7/20 at  7:00pm.




I saw this about a week ago.  It is very, very good and,  for the most part, 
head on objective.  If anything, it gives the 2004  complainers (one in 
particular) too much repetition, but also includes clips of  a researcher who 
debunks the claim that RN focused on "swing states" in his  campaigning.  Major 
disappointment:  No footage of the 2000 ASGP  nominating convention.  Major 
relief:  Nothing about GPUS fracturing  in 2004.  Highly recommended!!!   Warner



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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Mon Jul 16 00:16:42 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:16:42 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Dave Mathews Band helps our troops coming home
	receive medical care they need
Message-ID: <cb8.1636dc6b.33cc755a@aol.com>

Hi All,

Please sign the petition on the Dave Mathews Band website to push Congress to 
do more to ensure our U.S. troops coming home traumatized by combat get the 
help they need.

Merriam


The Dave Matthews Band is urging fans to push Congress to do more to ensure 
that U.S. troops coming home traumatized by combat get the help they need.

A petition on the band's Web site has 23,000 signatures so far, singer Dave 
Matthews said in an interview aired Sunday on ABC's "This Week."


      http://www.dmband.com






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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Mon Jul 16 23:55:23 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:55:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Regional picnic]
Message-ID: <469C67DB.60005@ispwest.com>

Pat Gray Tells me:
 >
 >Hey, it is THIS Saturday starting at noon in Central Park in San Mateo. 
 >It is right on El Camino and a few blocks from the train station at 
4th Ave. 
 >The park is at 6th Ave.
 >
 >Please plan to go to the picnic.  It'll be more fun with you!! 
 >If you play a musical instrument please bring it so we can sing. 
 >Bring food to share.  

I'm going to bring my camera and some yummy food. See you there!

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Date: 	Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:52:37 EDT
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To: 	tnharter at ispwest.com


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From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:23:59 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Medical Marijuana Action Alert from
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Subject: 	[G-C-F] Medical Marijuana Action Alert from StoptheDrugWar.org
Date: 	Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:49:49 -0700
From: 	Jared Laiti <jared.laiti at gmail.com>
To: 	cal-forum at marla.cagreens.org, natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org



One of the most important votes in drug policy reform -- the Hinchey
medical marijuana amendment -- is likely to happen THIS WEEK. Your
help is needed now! The Hinchey amendment, which will go to the floor
of the House of Representatives during debate on the
Science-State-Justice-Commerce Appropriations bill, would prevent the
US Dept. of Justice (of which the DEA is a part) from targeting
medical marijuana in states that have made it legal.

Please use our web site to write your US Representative --
http://ga0.org/campaign/hinchey2007/
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 17 20:46:16 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:46:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Anyone to help w/ media rel. re: Iraq Oil
	Worker's Union
Message-ID: <171186.74285.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

There is a request (elaborated upon below) from the GP
of TX to do a GP-US media release re: Iraqui Oil
Worker's Union.  Given the recent forum we helped
co-sponsor on this group does anyone here wish to
participate in creating this release?  Please let me
know ASAP if so.


Green cares!

Drew


Subject: request from local for release on IOWU


-----Original Message-----
To: steers at bexargreens.org 
From: Ellen Berky <eberky at fpcarch.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Clear and Present Danger

AJ et al:

After looking at gp.org to see if there were any press
releases about the Iraq Oil Workers Union, I noted
that there were no recent press releases specifically
addressed to union issues domestically or in other
countries.  There was a press release from March 
2007(scroll down for text) which referred to the
legislation which has these union folks so incensed,
but no mention of the IOWU. it seems like it is long
overdue to express solidarity with a union effort on
behalf of environmental and social progress, but if we
work fast maybe the Green Party can beat the AFL-CIO
to the punch. GP media coordinators emails are below
so maybe we could suggest to our list that they
endorse the idea to the Green Party national media
folks.  I hope you'll don't think that is too radical
a proposal.  I know San Antonio is hdq. to the
Northern Command of the US military, so someone might
think we were trying to endorse the 'terrorists',
since anyone who questions the sorry ass puppets in
Baghdad is now characterized to be part  of that
crowd.  From the Guardian:

...."Hassan Jumaa Awad al Assadi, the head of the
Iraqi oil  workers' union, was in London last week
campaigning against a new law which, he says, will
give the oil giants unprecedented rights to his
country's vast reserves.  'We will lose control over
Iraqi oil. Therefore, the social progress in Iraq will
be curtailed substantially, because the oil companies
want huge profits; they are not concerned about the  
environment, wages, or living conditions,' he warned. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2126511,00.html

Baghdad has reacted angrily to the union's campaign,
issuing arrest warrants for al Assadi and his fellow
leaders, and refusing  to recognise the 26,000-strong
confederation of workers. But a  mass protest is
planned in Basra tomorrow.....(That's today-EB)
>From the GP website:

Proposed Iraqi 'Hydrocarbon Law' Will Require
Prolonged U.S. Occupation, Say Greens
Green Party of the United States
www.gp.org

Monday, March 5, 2007

Contacts:
Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, 
mclarty at greens.org
Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, 
starlene at gp.org

Law giving U.S. oil firms control over Iraqi oil
resources fulfills an imperial dream of Bush
Administration ideologues, reveals a major motivation
for the U.S. invasion of Iraq 

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Green Party leaders warned that
the 
new 'hydrocarbon law' up for approval in Iraq would
lead to a prolonged, possibly permanent U.S. presence
in Iraq, with U.S. military and Iraqi civilian
casualties for years to come. 

"The Iraqi hydrocarbon law, if approved by Iraqi
lawmakers, will provide lucrative profits for U.S.
energy corporations by placing up to 2/3 of Iraqi oil
resources under foreign control," said Liz Arnone,
co-chair of the Green Party of the United States. "The
U.S. government, whether led by Democrats or
Republicans, will be committed to protecting American
energy company operations and investments in Iraq by
keeping U.S. troops there." 

Greens noted that passage of the law will aggravate
Iraqi and regional anger over the U.S. invasion, which
has cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi
civilians (as well as over 3,100 U.S. troops),
destroyed Iraqi infrastructure, and ignited a
sectarian civil war.  

"Iraqis should be allowed to decide how their
resources will be used, without the pressure of the
U.S. occupation and demands from the Bush
Administration," said Katey Culver, co-chair of the
Green Party of the United States and co-chiar of the
Green Party of Tennessee. "The hydrocarbon law amounts
to legalized pillage by a foreign country, and that's
how Iraqis will interpret it."

The Green Party has called for immediate withdrawal of
U.S. troops from Iraq and has urged Congress to cut
off funding for the war to compel President Bush to
order the safe return of American service personnel. 

"The Iraqi oil law proves that 'blood for oil' was a
major reason for the Iraq War all along.  It
demonstrates that President Bush didn't invade Iraq
because of claims about WMDs, conspiracy between
Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, liberation and democracy
for the Iraqi people, or other reasons that have
proved fraudulent," said Green Party co-chair Jim
Coplen.  

Major points on the Iraqi hydrocarbon law and extended
U.S. military presence in Iraq: 

The Iraqi hydrocarbon law, which was drafted with the
help of BearingPoint, a U.S. consultancy firm,
provides 'production-sharing agreements' (PSAs)
allowing major Western energy companies like
ExxonMobil, Shell, ChevronTexaco, and BP to sign deals
of up to 30 years to extract Iraq's oil. The PSAs will
allow Iraq to retain legal ownership of its oil, but
will ensure major profits for non-Iraqi companies that
invest in infrastructure and operation of the wells,
pipelines and refineries. Iraq will be the only major
Middle Eastern oil producing nation whose oil
production is controlled by foreign rather than
state-owned companies. The hydrocarbon law will turn
Iraq into an oil spigot for western nations, rather
than a resource that benefits Iraqis. The drafting
process was secretive; few Iraqi officials were
allowed to read the text, until it was leaked over the
Internet. The law was approved by the Iraqi cabinet on
February 26 and now heads to the Iraqi Parliament,
which is under heavy 
pressure from the U.S. to pass it. 
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4020
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0228-05.htm
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132574
.ece 

U.S. control over oil from the Persian Gulf region has
been a stated goal since the late 1990s of the Project
for the New American Century, a think tank whose
membership has formed the core of Bush Administration,
including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul
Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and Zalmay M. Khalilzad. The
Project recommended waging war on Iraq to assert such
control. 
http://www.newamericancentury.org 
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/022203A.htm 
http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/PNAC-Primer.htm
 

Michael Hirsh, in Newsweek, reports that while
Democratic and Republican presidential contenders and
Congress members are talking about timetables for
withdrawal of U.S. troops, Gen. David Petraeus'
'surge' plan will commit the U.S. to a longer
occupation that may last ten years.  According to a
Reuters report, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on
February 27 that the U.S. may maintain a military
presence in Iraq for a "prolonged period," comparable
to U.S. bases in Germany and South Korea. 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17282867/site/newsweek/ 
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27242217.htm 

___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

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Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 17 20:47:10 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help sought w/ media rel. re: Iraq Oil Worker's
	Union!!!
Message-ID: <227981.97455.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

There is a request (elaborated upon below) from the GP
of TX to do a GP-US media release re: Iraqui Oil
Worker's Union.  Given the recent forum we helped
co-sponsor on this group does anyone here wish to
participate in creating this release?  Please let me
know ASAP if so.


Green cares!

Drew


Subject: request from local for release on IOWU


-----Original Message-----
To: steers at bexargreens.org 
From: Ellen Berky <eberky at fpcarch.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: Clear and Present Danger

AJ et al:

After looking at gp.org to see if there were any press
releases about the Iraq Oil Workers Union, I noted
that there were no recent press releases specifically
addressed to union issues domestically or in other
countries.  There was a press release from March 
2007(scroll down for text) which referred to the
legislation which has these union folks so incensed,
but no mention of the IOWU. it seems like it is long
overdue to express solidarity with a union effort on
behalf of environmental and social progress, but if we
work fast maybe the Green Party can beat the AFL-CIO
to the punch. GP media coordinators emails are below
so maybe we could suggest to our list that they
endorse the idea to the Green Party national media
folks.  I hope you'll don't think that is too radical
a proposal.  I know San Antonio is hdq. to the
Northern Command of the US military, so someone might
think we were trying to endorse the 'terrorists',
since anyone who questions the sorry ass puppets in
Baghdad is now characterized to be part  of that
crowd.  From the Guardian:

...."Hassan Jumaa Awad al Assadi, the head of the
Iraqi oil  workers' union, was in London last week
campaigning against a new law which, he says, will
give the oil giants unprecedented rights to his
country's vast reserves.  'We will lose control over
Iraqi oil. Therefore, the social progress in Iraq will
be curtailed substantially, because the oil companies
want huge profits; they are not concerned about the  
environment, wages, or living conditions,' he warned. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2126511,00.html

Baghdad has reacted angrily to the union's campaign,
issuing arrest warrants for al Assadi and his fellow
leaders, and refusing  to recognise the 26,000-strong
confederation of workers. But a  mass protest is
planned in Basra tomorrow.....(That's today-EB)
>From the GP website:

Proposed Iraqi 'Hydrocarbon Law' Will Require
Prolonged U.S. Occupation, Say Greens
Green Party of the United States
www.gp.org

Monday, March 5, 2007

Contacts:
Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, 
mclarty at greens.org
Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, 
starlene at gp.org

Law giving U.S. oil firms control over Iraqi oil
resources fulfills an imperial dream of Bush
Administration ideologues, reveals a major motivation
for the U.S. invasion of Iraq 

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Green Party leaders warned that
the 
new 'hydrocarbon law' up for approval in Iraq would
lead to a prolonged, possibly permanent U.S. presence
in Iraq, with U.S. military and Iraqi civilian
casualties for years to come. 

"The Iraqi hydrocarbon law, if approved by Iraqi
lawmakers, will provide lucrative profits for U.S.
energy corporations by placing up to 2/3 of Iraqi oil
resources under foreign control," said Liz Arnone,
co-chair of the Green Party of the United States. "The
U.S. government, whether led by Democrats or
Republicans, will be committed to protecting American
energy company operations and investments in Iraq by
keeping U.S. troops there." 

Greens noted that passage of the law will aggravate
Iraqi and regional anger over the U.S. invasion, which
has cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi
civilians (as well as over 3,100 U.S. troops),
destroyed Iraqi infrastructure, and ignited a
sectarian civil war.  

"Iraqis should be allowed to decide how their
resources will be used, without the pressure of the
U.S. occupation and demands from the Bush
Administration," said Katey Culver, co-chair of the
Green Party of the United States and co-chiar of the
Green Party of Tennessee. "The hydrocarbon law amounts
to legalized pillage by a foreign country, and that's
how Iraqis will interpret it."

The Green Party has called for immediate withdrawal of
U.S. troops from Iraq and has urged Congress to cut
off funding for the war to compel President Bush to
order the safe return of American service personnel. 

"The Iraqi oil law proves that 'blood for oil' was a
major reason for the Iraq War all along.  It
demonstrates that President Bush didn't invade Iraq
because of claims about WMDs, conspiracy between
Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, liberation and democracy
for the Iraqi people, or other reasons that have
proved fraudulent," said Green Party co-chair Jim
Coplen.  

Major points on the Iraqi hydrocarbon law and extended
U.S. military presence in Iraq: 

The Iraqi hydrocarbon law, which was drafted with the
help of BearingPoint, a U.S. consultancy firm,
provides 'production-sharing agreements' (PSAs)
allowing major Western energy companies like
ExxonMobil, Shell, ChevronTexaco, and BP to sign deals
of up to 30 years to extract Iraq's oil. The PSAs will
allow Iraq to retain legal ownership of its oil, but
will ensure major profits for non-Iraqi companies that
invest in infrastructure and operation of the wells,
pipelines and refineries. Iraq will be the only major
Middle Eastern oil producing nation whose oil
production is controlled by foreign rather than
state-owned companies. The hydrocarbon law will turn
Iraq into an oil spigot for western nations, rather
than a resource that benefits Iraqis. The drafting
process was secretive; few Iraqi officials were
allowed to read the text, until it was leaked over the
Internet. The law was approved by the Iraqi cabinet on
February 26 and now heads to the Iraqi Parliament,
which is under heavy 
pressure from the U.S. to pass it. 
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4020
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0228-05.htm
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132574
.ece 

U.S. control over oil from the Persian Gulf region has
been a stated goal since the late 1990s of the Project
for the New American Century, a think tank whose
membership has formed the core of Bush Administration,
including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul
Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and Zalmay M. Khalilzad. The
Project recommended waging war on Iraq to assert such
control. 
http://www.newamericancentury.org 
http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/022203A.htm 
http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/PNAC-Primer.htm
 

Michael Hirsh, in Newsweek, reports that while
Democratic and Republican presidential contenders and
Congress members are talking about timetables for
withdrawal of U.S. troops, Gen. David Petraeus'
'surge' plan will commit the U.S. to a longer
occupation that may last ten years.  According to a
Reuters report, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on
February 27 that the U.S. may maintain a military
presence in Iraq for a "prolonged period," comparable
to U.S. bases in Germany and South Korea. 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17282867/site/newsweek/ 
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27242217.htm 

___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Wed Jul 18 09:01:00 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 18 Jul 2007 16:01:00 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] UK Greens on free software
Message-ID: <20070718160100.15700.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


I started up a web syndication scanner ("RSS newsreader") and just
about the first thing that popped up in the example feeds was
about the UK Greens.  This happened within a few minutes of
Larry Cafiero mailing me about it.

http://www.linux.com/feature/117245

One thing I noticed is the naysayers talk about the difficulty
of "switching" while the more can-do folks talk about the
realities of "migrating."  Seems to be a recurring theme.


Cameron



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Jul 18 17:40:22 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:40:22 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: SaveBAREC Referendum PRESS CONFERENCE -
	Wednesday, July 18 - 12:30pm
Message-ID: <d20.10379566.33d00cf6@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/17/07 6:38:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
kmathewson at secretgardens.com writes:

 
Referendum Petition Press  Conference 
Wednesday, July 18, 2007, 12:30  p.m. 
Santa Clara City  Hall 
1500 Warburton  Avenue 
Santa Clara, CA 
Dear BAREC Friends: 
On July 18, 2007 at 12:30 p.m. on the Santa Clara City Hall steps SaveBAREC 
will be  holding a press conference announcing the petition submission for the  
BAREC/Santa Clara Gardens zoning and general plan referendums.  There will be 
4 speakers.  The City Clerk will be given the  petitions at the conclusion of 
the press conference. 
We hope you will join us.   Hundreds participated at the June 19th City 
Council  meeting.  We hope similar numbers  will be with us tomorrow. 
If anyone has a video camera and is willing to film the event, please  let us 
know ASAP. 
It has been a long three weeks getting the required  4000 plus Santa  Clara 
City voter signatures.  The exact amount will be announced at  the press 
conference.    
Your continued support and enthusiasm are appreciated. 
SaveBAREC Public Relations Committee 
David Ledesma, Chairman 
BAREC Bob Walker 
Kathryn Mathewson 
Kirk Vartan 
_www.savebarec.org_ (http://www.savebarec.org/)  
888-BAREC-80 
 



 



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From jims at greens.org  Wed Jul 18 18:55:25 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:55:25 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Regional Picnic This Weekend
In-Reply-To: <op.tvjcd00qlp2bks@adsl-69-110-41-46.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net>
References: <op.tvjcd00qlp2bks@adsl-69-110-41-46.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net>
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Reminder / Update

Our regional picnic will be July 21 in San Mateo Central Park.
This is an opportunity to interact with Greens outside of our usual  
meeting environment.

Festivities start at noon.

A map is now available at
http://cagreens.org/sclara/events/SanMateoPark.pdf
(use this link to download the map since our 'events' page seems to be out
of order)

This looks to be a pot-luck format with everyone bringing their own. Also,  
if you have any appropriate games bring them along.

Hope to see you all there!

Jim




From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Wed Jul 18 21:23:29 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:23:29 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What do you think about the AMERICAN FREEDOM
	AGENDA?
Message-ID: <c26.197aff4e.33d04141@aol.com>

Hi All,

Have you heard of the AMERICAN FREEDOM AGENDA?  Check out their website and 
let me know what your comments are.  In this time of our Constitution being 
trashed, and an Executive branch that is unchecked we need to form alliances with 
groups that uphold our constitutional rights even if they are conservative.

The Principals of the AMERICAN FREEDOM AGENDA are Bruce Fein, Bob Barr, David 
Keene and Richard Viguerie.

Bruce Fein was on Bill Moyers Journal last Friday July 13th discussing 
Impeachment of Bush and Cheney.

Merriam
mkmusic03 at aol.com

http://www.americanfreedomagenda.org

    
The American Freedom Agenda?s (AFA) mission is twofold: the enactment of a 
cluster of statutes that would restore the Constitution?s checks and balances as 
enshrined by the Founding Fathers; and, making the subject a staple of 
political campaigns and of foremost concern to Members of Congress and to voters and 
educators.? Especially since 9/11, the executive branch has chronically 
usurped legislative or judicial power, and has repeatedly claimed that the 
President is the law. The constitutional grievances against the White House are 
chilling, reminiscent of the kingly abuses that provoked the Declaration of 
Independence.

    
    
    
















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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Wed Jul 18 23:46:27 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:46:27 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSCC is sponsoring the movie "Ralph Nader: An
	Unreasonable Man" this Fri 7/20
Message-ID: <ced.1410c426.33d062c3@aol.com>

Hi All,

We are sponsorring the movie, "Ralph Nader: An Unreasonable Man" this Friday 
night the 20th at the San Jose Peace Center at 7:00pm.

Who is going to be there?  Also we need to provide refreshments if you can 
bring some finger food please let me know.  Or if you can donate some money I 
will purchase some food and bring it.

Please let me know.

Merriam
mkmusic03 at aol.com
408-482-6032


Friday, July 20

Peace Center Film Series; "Ralph Nader: An Unreasonable Man"-- San Jose

7:00 p.m. San Jose Peace Center, 48 S. 7th St., San Jose

The personal and professional life of Ralph Nader, one of America's most 
controversial consumer advocates and political activists is the subject of this 
biographical documentary. Nader's willingness to take on big corporations earned 
him a reputation as both a working-class her and a public pariah. Interviews 
and archival footage help illuminate this in-depth profile of one of the most 
influential political figures in modern history.?

Donation: $5 - $10, no one turned away. Sponsored by Santa Clara County Green 
Party 



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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Thu Jul 19 08:36:34 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 19 Jul 2007 15:36:34 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What do you think about the AMERICAN FREEDOM
	AGENDA?
In-Reply-To: <c26.197aff4e.33d04141@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20070719153634.22398.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>



>From: MKmusic03 at aol.com
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:23:29 EDT
>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What do you think about the AMERICAN FREEDOM
>	AGENDA?

>Hi All,

>Have you heard of the AMERICAN FREEDOM AGENDA?  Check out their website and=20
>let me know what your comments are.  In this time of our Constitution being=20
>trashed, and an Executive branch that is unchecked we need to form alliances=
> with=20
>groups that uphold our constitutional rights even if they are conservative.

>The Principals of the AMERICAN FREEDOM AGENDA are Bruce Fein, Bob Barr, Davi=
>d=20
>Keene and Richard Viguerie.


>http://www.americanfreedomagenda.org

Skip to the "Biographies of the Principals."  The junk mail guru
who's credited with getting Reagan elected.  A leader of the
War on Some Drugs and the campaign to impeach Clinton.
A high powered corporate lobbyist.  One of American Enterprise
Institute's most powerful talking heads and a major promoter
of the so-called War on Terrorism.

It's weird.  These guys led the movement for everything the
Bush administration represents.  I wouldn't trust any of them
with anything and I smell a rat.  Is this a sign that even
some of the powers behind the "conservative movement" mistrust
Bush?  Or is it an effort to head off a grassroots
movement among the old "Goldwater" paleocons?  (A right wing
reflection of how Moveon et. al. are trying to head off
the grassroots antiwar movement.)  If you really want to
figure out which side they're on, you'll have to watch
individual bits of legislation they push or fight.


Cameron





From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 19 09:12:23 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:12:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What do you think about the AMERICAN
	FREEDOM	AGENDA?
References: <20070719153634.22398.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <469F8D67.8000107@earthlink.net>



cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:

> 

> 
> Skip to the "Biographies of the Principals."  The junk mail guru
> who's credited with getting Reagan elected.  A leader of the
> War on Some Drugs and the campaign to impeach Clinton.
> A high powered corporate lobbyist.  One of American Enterprise
> Institute's most powerful talking heads and a major promoter
> of the so-called War on Terrorism.
> 
> It's weird.  These guys led the movement for everything the
> Bush administration represents.  I wouldn't trust any of them
> with anything and I smell a rat.  Is this a sign that even
> some of the powers behind the "conservative movement" mistrust
> Bush?  Or is it an effort to head off a grassroots
> movement among the old "Goldwater" paleocons?  (A right wing
> reflection of how Moveon et. al. are trying to head off
> the grassroots antiwar movement.)  If you really want to
> figure out which side they're on, you'll have to watch
> individual bits of legislation they push or fight.
> 
> 
> Cameron
> 


It's definitely wierd.  But after reading the transcript of
Bill Moyer's piece:

     http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/transcript4.html

it seems that Bruce Fein is for real.  Maybe this is a case
where Bush shows the right the truth of the "Law of Unintended
Consequences".  If the left can have infighting, why not the
right?

Gerry





From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 15:04:14 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:04:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment Now -- To Defend the Rule of Law!
Message-ID: <567260.76373.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_alan_kob_070718_impeachment_now____a.htm
IMPEACHMENT NOW -- AS A DEFENSIVE TACTIC

By Alan Kobrin [Florida Green Party]
OpEdNews.com, July 19, 200
http://www.opednews.com


Impeachment has to happen for at least two
reasons.

First, it is the appropriate remedy called upon
to redress crimes that have likely been committed
by high elected officials.

Secondly, it may be the last best defense for our
nation to avoid martial law her, or the all-out
unthinkable catastrophe that would be a strike
(nuclear or otherwise) against Iran in the coming
days by an increasingly unstable and cornered
Administration.

Questioning the ?political expediency? of
impeachment always seemed disturbing because it
permits our elected officials discretion to go
after potentially serious crimes?or not?as the
electoral calendar, but not the public interest,
dictated. Law applied only when convenient,
ceases to be Law. If We, the People, through our
representatives, allow the most serious crimes
committed in the history of our nation to go
unexamined, much less unpunished, we will have no
legacy to pass on to our children. Effectively we
will have allowed America to die.

The current moment makes this remedy even more
urgent. As important as impeachment would be to
re-establishing the ground rules of civilized
behavior in our nation, and as much as it already
can be seen as a question of life and death for
countless future victims, it has now become a
tactical move for the very survival of the United
States as many of us would like to see it.

Impeachment may well be the only means left for
an immediate shift in momentum. The movement of
personnel and materials into a new theater of war
in the Mideast gives the Administration clear
inertia for carrying out its plans. There is
little time to alter any course through normal
voting channels, even if it is to cut off
funding. That takes time and the Administration
has already declared itself ready and able to
proceed with or without funding cuts.

It is no longer a question of whether this
Administration acts from serious
intelligence-gathering or from listening to
experts, or even listening to the people it
legally represents. It clearly marches to the
beat of its own drummer, to a cadence we are not
privy to hear. We cannot count on either their
good faith or their good sense. In this
constitutional crisis of power, all available
means are called for to restore Constitutional
Balance of Power, to keep this Administration
busy explaining, and move them into a more
defensive posture, running to their lawyers, and
ducking cameras and subpoenas.

This may be the last chance the American people
have to use our available legal powers to stave
off an unprecedented catastrophe. Time is running
out. This unresponsive and largely irresponsible
Administration seems determined and desperate to
act out the Plan they have never bothered to
disclose to us, mere citizens.

If there were ever a time for national resolve,
this is it. Starting the impeachment process
now?independent of the chances of its successful
passage?will give courage to the beleaguered and
bewildered 70% who want this war to stop. It may
prevent World War III. It gives breathing room to
develop an appropriate exit strategy from Iraq.
It will renew US stature in the eyes of the
world. It means America at last will be standing
up together and fighting to redeem its heritage
as a democratic republic of the People, and
secure its future from threats, be they foreign
or domestic.

We must get our Congress & People to act NOW as
if our lives depended on it--for they do.

Spread the word?time is running out.


Alan Kobrin
Miami

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 19 16:20:32 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:20:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party supports Iraqis protesting the oil
	law benchmark
Message-ID: <510849.3639.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This GP-US media release relates to the earlier SJ
event that the Green Party of Santa Clara Co
co-sponsored where members of the Iraq Oil Workers
Union (IOWU) spoke.


Green is solidarity!

Drew Johnson
A County Councilor of the Green Party of Santa Clara
Co
______

Green Party supports Iraqis protesting the oil law
benchmark

Green Party of the United States
www.gp.org

Thursday, July 19, 2007

Contacts:
Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624,
mclarty at greens.org
Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805,
starlene at gp.org

Greens support Iraqis protesting the oil law benchmark

    * The oil law, instead of bringing peace, will
allow US and UK energy companies to plunder Iraqi oil,
say Greens 

WASHINGTON, DC -- Green Party leaders declared their
support for the tens of thousands of Iraqis, including
labor unions, who are protesting the Iraqi oil law
'benchmark' that the Bush Administration and
supporters are seeking to impose as a condition for
reconstruction aid. 

On July 16, Iraqis took to the streets of Basra in a
demonstration organized by the Iraqi Federation of Oil
Unions against the proposed law, which would place 2/3
of Iraqi oil under foreign control, granting 30-year
contracts to US and UK energy corporations for
'development' of Iraq's oil resources. 

"The oil law is nothing more than a scheme to allow
the US and Britain to pillage Iraq's source of
wealth," said TE Smith, black Vietnam War veteran and
member of the DC Statehood Green Party. "The oil law
benchmark confirms exactly what antiwar protesters
have said all along -- that President Bush's invasion
and occupation of Iraq were largely motivated by
'blood for oil.'  Iraqis are right to fear that the
oil law will mark a return to the days of colonial
plunder by western nations." 

The Bush Administration, with bipartisan support  in
Congress and the approval of most Democratic
presidential candidates, is pressing the Iraqi
Parliament to pass the oil law. The law would overturn
Iraqi legislation passed in 1961 and 1973 to ensure
that the Iraqi people enjoyed control over and profits
from their own oil resources. 

"Democratic and Republican politicians alike want the
Iraqi oil law passed, because they care more about
profits for ExxonMobil, Shell, and ChevronTexaco than
they do about peace, democracy, and the well-being of
the Iraqi people," said Nancy Allen, member of the
Maine Green Party and the party's Peace Action
Committee (GPAX). "Democrats are talking about passage
of the oil law as a necessary step towards withdrawal
of US troops. The Green Party demands that US troops
be ordered home immediately with no such conditions,
that the US recognize that Iraqi oil belongs to the
Iraqi people, and that we as Americans seek safe and
clean alternatives to fossil fuel energy." 

The Green Party of the United States has opposed the
war on Iraq ever since President Bush announced
invasion plans in late 2002, and has called for the
impeachment of Mr. Bush and Vice President Cheney for
numerous abuses of power, including deceiving the
American people about the reasons for waging war on
Iraq. 

Greens have also sharply criticized Democratic Party
leaders and presidential candidates for supporting the
Bush Administration on the invasion and occupation,
for offering belated and vague plans for a delayed
pullout of US armed forces from Iraq, and for voting
in support of continued funding for the Iraq War. 

"The occupation of Iraq is very likely to continue
whether we elect Democrats or Republicans to the White
House and Congress in  2008," said Kat Swift,
spokesperson for the National Women's Caucus of the
Green Party. "If the Iraqi Parliament succumbs to US
pressure and passes the oil law, it'll require a
30-year commitment of US military personnel to protect
western corporate interests in Iraq. We're urging all
Americans who desire peace, stability, and justice for
the people of Iraq to contact their Representatives
and Senators and demand that the benchmark be
dropped." 

MORE INFORMATION

Green Party of the United States
http://www.gp.org 
1700 Connecticut Avenue NW, Suite 404
Washington, DC 20009.
202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN
Fax 202-319-7193
. Green Party News Center
http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml 
. Green Party Speakers Bureau
http://www.gp.org/speakers 
. 2007 national Green Party meeting in Reading,
Pa.: video footage, blog and media coverage
http://www.gp.org/meeting2007/ 

Green Party Peace Action Committee (GPAX)
http://www.gp.org/committees/peace/ 

Oil Change International: Iraqi Oil Law
http://priceofoil.org/thepriceofoil/war-terror/iraqi-oil-law/


"Who Will Control Iraq's Oil?"
By Antonia Juhasz and Raed Jarrar, Foreign Policy
in Focus, February 22, 2007
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/4020
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/27/who_will_control_iraqs_oil.php


'Open Letter to Michael Moore' from the Green
Party on 'Sicko,' health care reform
http://www.gp.org/press/pr_2007_07_09.shtml
http://www.commondreams.org/news2007/0710-03.htm 


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From jims at greens.org  Thu Jul 19 21:55:16 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:55:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [ProChoiceOrNoChoice] URGENT ALERT: Take
	Action - Protect Family Planning!
In-Reply-To: <7308903.1184870108324.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <7308903.1184870108324.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Subject: [ProChoiceOrNoChoice] URGENT ALERT: Take Action - Protect Family  
Planning!
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:35:07 -0700

Sometimes, Planned Parenthood is the only game in town in regards to family
planning. Call your congressperson today before 5 p.m. to urge defeat of  
the
Pence amendment. Complete information below. Thanks.

Subject: URGENT ALERT: Take Action - Protect Family Planning!

URGENT ALERT: Protect Reproductive Health Care for Low-Income Women

First, a background: Each year, the nation's family planning program,  
known as "Title
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 20 01:55:07 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Our GPSCC/GPSM Regional Picnic This Saturday
In-Reply-To: <op.tvovmilvlp2bks@adsl-69-110-0-188.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net>
Message-ID: <137777.73794.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Note that the park is walking distance from the San
Mateo Caltrain station.  For a street map go to:
http://tinyurl.com/2b288r

I'm going (by train) and I hope many of the rest of us
can join in.  Last year's picnic was fun and I think
this one will be also. :-)


Green is Nurturing!

Drew


--- Jim Stauffer <jims at greens.org> wrote:

> 
> Reminder / Update
> 
> Our regional picnic will be July 21 in San Mateo
> Central Park.
> This is an opportunity to interact with Greens
> outside of our usual  
> meeting environment.
> 
> Festivities start at noon.
> 
> A map is now available at
> http://cagreens.org/sclara/events/SanMateoPark.pdf
> (use this link to download the map since our
> 'events' page seems to be out
> of order)
> 
> This looks to be a pot-luck format with everyone
> bringing their own. Also,  
> if you have any appropriate games bring them along.
> 
> Hope to see you all there!
> 
> Jim

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri Jul 20 16:40:38 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:40:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] A totally Palo Alto experience...
Message-ID: <46A147F6.6050203@ispwest.com>

I'm tempted to say only in Palo Alto could something like the BusCycle
exist, but maybe there is another one out there. If ever you wanted a
lesson on what you really get from a tank of gas, the BusCycle can do it.
It's a reformed truck or large van with seating, pedals, and gear shifts
for sixteen pedalers and a driver. The power to move the thing forward
comes ONLY from the pedalers. It won't move unless at least six of us
are strong cyclists. See what a ride on the BusCycle looks like by visiting:

http://tian.greens.org/PaloAlto/BusCycle/index.html

Looking back on the experience now, I'd say it felt a bit like a
barnraising, in that it's a shared experince to pedal with other people.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Busycle to Mitchell Park Cold Blood pictures and commentary. 



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 00:10:11 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:10:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Candidate Training Sessions August 25th @ UCLA,
	Strategy Meetings 26th
Message-ID: <156460.95565.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM CAMPAIGNS AND CANDIDATES WORKING
GROUP


Save the Date:  Candidate Training Sessions August
25th at UCLA; Strategy Meetings August 26th

The  CCWG and Los Angeles County Green Party activists
are organizing candidate  training sessions to be held
on August 25, 2007, at the University of California,
Los Angeles.  Plans in progress also include a
possible forum of GPUS presidential candidates
Saturday evening and strategy planning sessions  on
Sunday, August 26th.  For more information, contact
Warner Bloomberg  CCWG
Coordinator at (408) 295-9353 or _wsb3attyca at aol.com_ 

(mailto:wsb3attyca at aol.com)

Candidate Funding Process in August; Candidate 
Information Requested

There is a small amount of funds in the CCWG budget 
for distribution to GPCA candidates.  The CCWG will
review candidate  support requests in August after the
filing deadline for the November 2007  elections. 
Please provide the CCWG with the names and contact
information  for candidates for all elected offices in
both the November 2007 and June 2008  elections.  Send
this information to:  _wsb3attyca at aol.com_
(mailto:wsb3attyca at aol.com) .  Please notify all
candidates that local GP(s) endorsement is a  minimum
eligibility requirement for GPCA funding.

For more information,  contact Warner Bloomberg CCWG
Coordinator at (408) 295-9353 or _wsb3attyca at aol.com_ 

(mailto:wsb3attyca at aol.com)

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 21 00:36:24 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:36:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GP-US Political Director's address to Reading
Message-ID: <205449.3722.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Here's some heavy duty analysis of the GP-US from our
staff:

Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:16:28 -0400
From: "Brent McMillan" <brent at gp.org>
Subject: [usgp-dx] PD Address to NC 7-12-07


Dear NC Delegate:

Following is the text of the address that I had hoped
to deliver to the National Committee on Friday, July
12.

Unfortunately schedule changes did not allow me to
deliver the entire address.

In Service:

Brent McMillan, Political Director
Green Party of the United States
202-319-7191
brent at gp.org

Political Director Address to National Committee
Friday, July 12 GPUS Annual National Meeting, Reading
PA by Brent McMillan

One of the lessons to be learned from Cuba in the
crisis that they faced in surviving the special period
after the collapse of the Soviet Union is that if you
want to have Political Autonomy you have to have
Economic and Energy Autonomy.

Two major focus issues for 2008 that I see are Energy
and economy.

The first is Energy Policy. We need to connect Wars of
Imperialism, Global Warming and Peak Oil back to US
Energy Policy. This IMHO should be the number one
focus of our federal level candidates. We have an
opportunity to have a dialogue with Greens in Europe
throughout this cycle. Earlier this year I met with
delegations from both the Austrian and the German
Green Parties. We are part of an international
community and we need to take advantage of that, but
with open eyes. We are facing an immense, world-wide
corporate green washing campaign. They are very
concerned and need a strong green voice in the US. In
the Strategic Plan Plenary on Saturday, Julia
Willebrand, Co-Chair of our International Committee
will be addressing this.

The Second is economic and in particular economic
justice. We need to focus on building a Black/Brown
Coalition. We need to be increasing our efforts in
reaching out to and becoming relevant to
disenfranchised communities. One key to this is to
focus on the re-construction of New Orleans. We need
to be more supportive of the work of Malik Rahim, the
Common Ground Collective and others. Communities where
there are also strong opportunities include but are
not limited to: Detroit, Oakland, Washington DC and
Baltimore to name some. Detroit is arguably the first
post-Industrial City in America. What they can tell us
is that the future is Green. Many Americans are being
dropped from basic services, People who thought they
would never be dropped from basic services. This is
where our opportunity lies.

In addition to this two pronged approached, when we
are accused of being spoilers there is an opportunity
to talk about election reform. We need to be prepared
to advocate the reforms that we are asking for.

We will once again be under a lot of pressure to not
run a presidential candidate. It will come from
several directions and for different reasons.

We have several candidates that have expressed
interest in seeking the Green Party's nomination in
2008. We are way ahead of where we were at this time
in 2003. You'll have an opportunity to meet these
folks this evening.

In many ways 2004 was our first really competitive
convention.

As we would probably all agree 2004 was problematic.
Before we even got to the convention approximately 70%
of the national party's donor base either went ABB,
Anybody But Bush, or didn't want us to run a candidate
at all for other reasons. We then proceeded to fight
over the scraps. In my opinion we didn't do our work
going into the convention and we left the convention
with unfinished business.

I think that we are going to get another chance at
reaching the American public in 2008. There is an
immense political vacuum out there that we are
operating in. I see a level of opportunity that we
haven't had since 2000. Greens are feeling a level of
acceptance in the General Public that we haven't felt
in seven years.

For those of you that were involved in 2000 it's hard
to forget the excitement that the super rallies
created. We went from being a little fringe party to
where we were now on the national political map.

(I was the State Facilitator for the Green Party of
Washington State in 2000, in essence the chair, and I
remember that after the Seattle Super rally the
Seattle Times ran an editorial declaring the Green
Party the
second party in Seattle and that the Republicans were
now the third party.)

So what would it look like if the Green Party was to
get serious about 2008? I would like to make the
following suggestions.

1) We need to make more time for the process of
approving the platform and for the presidential
nominating process in 2008 than what we did in 2004.
Therefore we need to scale back competing programs.
For example the CCC had an ambitious campaign school
going during the convention with several tracks. This
needs to be scaled back at the 2008 convention.

2) Money:
A. Fundraise at the convention: Little known to anyone
is that in 2004 we did not allow our presidential
nominee to fundraise at the convention. The national
party was in dire financial straits at the time, so
what else is new, and it was seen as competition. This
was not made public. We asked our potential candidates
to compete for the nomination, in essence to spend
every last dollar they had to get the nomination and
then sent this person away broke. Who ever our nominee
is in 2008 they should be allowed to fundraise at the
convention regardless of the financial state of the
national party.

B) Reseed the campaign: Also, I think that they should
walk away with a chunk of cash to reseed their
campaign. What if 100 people donated $100 to a fund so
that whoever walked away from the convention, walked
away with $10,000 to reseed their campaign? I know
that this is not a lot of money in the overall scheme
of things, but it would be progress over what we have
done in the past. I think that this money should not
go through the national committee but should be raised
independently. We are competing with so many other
programs for the general fund that this wouldn't stand
a chance unless it was an independent effort.

We could use some help with this. This needs to be an
effort outside of the National Committee. Perhaps
there needs to be a 527 set up for this purpose.

3) Impeccability in the rules process: In my opinion
representatives of the candidates had too much
influence in the rules process in 2004.

We have to have a process that people trust. Not just
in fact but also in perception.

The problem we have is that there are not enough
active greens on the national level to have people
work on the rules that aren't working on some
campaign. Do we keep the two separate or do we work to
keep a balance of representation of various interests.



Look at the former Delegate Apportionment Committee
(DAC) as an example of the latter model.

This can be described as the Civil Service Model vs
the
Political/Trans-Partisan Model. Trans-Partisan is a
word that I would like to see in the Green Party
lexicon. It's not non-partisan, which denies political
identity, it's not bi-partisan, which limits the
debate to two sides, it's trans-partisan which
recognizes that it's more complicated than that. Yes,
we have a political identity, but we are also willing
to transcend our ideology in order to find a
successful solution.

4) We need to have better informed Delegates. Many
states did not have a plan in place for what to do
after the first round of voting in Milwaukee. I have
suggested a judge and jury model as a solution. The
judge informs the jury of what the legal questions to
be answered are but doesn't dictate to them how they
are going to do it. State Committees need to have a
plan in place before they come to the convention.

States will have a template to work from.  There are
drafts being worked on now for how to address this. We
need help, though. We need people willing to work on
this. We also need to have in written form  an answer
to the question, "how does the nomination process
work?"

5) How do we do a better job of communicating with
potential candidates? What's the initial point of
contact with a potential candidate? Who is the initial
point of contact with a potential candidate? This is a
problem at both the national and state level that
needs to be addressed. The PCSC recently sent out a
survey to all of the state committees in regards to
this. A little over 80% have responded so far.

Who does the potential candidate talk to about the
ballot access process for your state? Who can they
contact to help them with fundraisers or hosting an
event? Each state party needs to have clearly defined
initial points of contact.

6) Security: If we become serious enough in 2008 to
become a threat we will need to address the issue of
security. Those of us involved in 2000 in key
leadership positions can personally attest to this
need. In Seattle, both myself and Joe Szwaya who was
running for Congress at the time had our homes broken
into and political materials and monies stolen. I had
a window broken out and received threatening phone
calls late at night. Twice I had to get postal
inspectors involved to stop the dead lettering and
returning of campaign contributions by Postal Workers.
These are federal level offences but no one was held
accountable.

7) In 2004 Democrats raised $10,000,000 to keep third
party candidates off the ballot. Nader faced mush of
this in 2004. In 2006 we began to see this directed at
us. We need a ballot access legal defense fund. I am
advocating that at least $10,000 be earmarked for
engaging in up to three lawsuits in 2008. I'm a former
director of COFOE (The Coalition for Free and Open
Elections) which is regularly engaged in three to five
lawsuits at any given time. We win about half of them.
This money would be for filing fees and printing
costs. We need to identify attorneys willing to work
pro bono on this issue.

8) In 2006 we created the Green Senatorial Campaign
Committee (GSCC). It became the first Congressional
Committee to be recognized by the FEC since it was
formed in 1975. We held off forming the Green House
Campaign Committee so that we could incorporate the
lessons learned from the GSCC in its formation and
ultimately FEC approval. Former GPUS Political
Director, Dean Myerson and I were present at the FEC
hearing for the approval of the GSCC. It passed easily
with a 6-0 vote.

9) Have the 2008 convention as early as possible, and
settle on the convention site sooner rather than
later. The earlier we know this the more likely we
will have a well organized and well attended event.

10) Challenge 2008. In 2004, soon after I arrived at
the national office in February, I began seeing in our
press releases and other locations references to our
running 1,000 candidates in 2004. I began asking
around for where was the plan to do that. Nobody could
answer the question, so I went to working on killing
any reference to this. So what if we ran 1,000
candidates in 2008, what would that look like? I did
an exercise in an excel spread sheet where I looked at
the last four years and each state parties record for
the actual number of candidates run. I then developed
a formula for this. I didn't let any state off the
hook, so if they hadn't run a candidate before the
goal became that they would run a candidate. For
example California fields about 16% of our candidates
therefore 160 candidates.

If anyone would like a copy of the schedule please
email me at brent at gp.org and I will send it to you.

Our ticket was way too top heavy in 2006. We had way
too many candidates running for congress and state
wide-races relative to the number of candidates
running for state legislature on down. Although we had
less candidates running for congress in 2006 than in
2004 we got more votes. When I talk about recruiting
more candidates, I mean from State Legislature on
down. We have plenty of top ticket races to lead our
tickets. The quality of our campaigns and candidates
improved in 2006, this is partly due to the number of
campaign schools that we ran in 2005. Unfortunately,
so far, in 2007 there has not been that level of
commitment going into 2008. There is time to correct
that, but we need to act now. We need to restore the
Coordinated Campaign Committee.

Thank you to the National Committee for support of the
SE Regional Campaign School and funding of the Fall
Cycle.

Closing: Martin Luther King, Jr. said that, "Power is
the ability to achieve a purpose." We need to walk
into our power. We need to emerge out of our
fragmented impotence and get serious about being
agents of change in the
world.

We have some tough questions before us in this
convention that we need to have answers to in order to
be effective in 2008.

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From alexcathy at aol.com  Sat Jul 21 09:06:51 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:06:51 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Schwarzenegger's 'Moderate' Hypocrisy on
	California Water
Message-ID: <8C999C848A7D362-15C4-35B6@FWM-M07.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends,

?

Arnold Schwarzenegger, our rightwing corporate-approved Republican conservative "social moderate" governor is at it again. Even while spinning his "image" to the clueless MSM as an environmentally-friendly "green" governor, the Governator is busy pandering to the usual cynical, sleazy corporate interests with his water plan for the California Delta. 

, our rightwing corporate-approved Republican conservative "social moderate" governor is at it again. Even while spinning his "image" to the clueless MSM as an environmentally-friendly "green" governor, the Governator is busy pandering to the usual cynical, sleazy corporate interests with his water plan for the California Delta. 


You think the world is going to hell over oil? The next big fight is over water.


Wes Rolley has posted important documents about the water crisis on his blog California Greening: Greenwashing and the Governor.


Check it out.


Here are some highlights.


from the non-profit community organization, Restore The Delta:


The Governor called once again for the building of additional water conveyance from the Delta (a.k.a. peripheral canal) and the building of additional dams. However, in explaining his five-point plan, he did not utter a word about a long term strategy for maintaining and improving Delta levees so as to deal with the state?s identified threats to the Delta including seismic activity and sea level rise. 

Restore the Delta staff is incensed that the Governor held his first press conference in the heart of the Westlands Water District ? the primary area in California where land irrigated with Delta water does not drain properly resulting in polluted local groundwater tables ? rather than embracing what local Delta stakeholders have to say as they participate in the public process that he mandated. Clearly, by going on tour to call for the building of the peripheral canal, the Governor has chosen to cast his lot with large corporate water interests,

. . .

After a week of courting the national press on his environmental leadership record, Governor Schwarzenegger does not have the courage to admit publicly to local Delta stakeholders that his water plan is centered on providing more Delta water to special water interests and corporate agriculture in the southern part of the state. Without a doubt, the Governor is embracing a policy that would be the final death blow for Delta fisheries and, thus, has lost the right to claim the title of environmental governor. He has bought into and is selling the notion that the peripheral canal is the environmentally superior method for water conveyance from the Delta 


from the leading West Coast fishing magazine, The Fish Sniffer:


The Governor's campaign to build the peripheral canal at a time when he is nationally touting his "environmental" credentials by posing on the covers of national magazines is "greenwashing" of the worst sort. We must expose the Governor for his hypocrisy - and stop him in his efforts to build a canal that would undoubtedly destroy the Delta and result in the destruction of Delta smelt, salmon, steelhead, striped bass, sturgeon and other species.


The So-Called-Liberal media and the clueless "liberal" Democrats let him get away with it. 

Just yesterday I heard a report on NPR that the catastrophe currently underway in Darfur is mostly about water.? 

Still wonder why we need a Green Party? 

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 21 13:13:54 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:13:54 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] McGovern
Message-ID: <46A26902.7000406@earthlink.net>


"McGovern Animated by Public Agenda"

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/19/2639/

I lived in Massachusetts when McGovern ran for president.
When Watergate heated up, I started seeing a lot of
bumper stickers saying "Don't blame me, I am from
Massachusetts".


Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Jul 21 13:14:17 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:14:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The more things change ...
Message-ID: <46A26919.5090906@earthlink.net>


... the more things stay the same.

This is about how the change from Republican to
Democratic Congress has had no significant effect
on the U.S. defense contracts.

"Four of the top five 'earmarkers' were not Republican
hawks but centrist and liberal Democrats."

"Earmarking the War Machine"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/21/2674/

Gerry




From jims at greens.org  Sun Jul 22 18:26:36 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:26:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Candidate Training Sessions August 25th at UCLA
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Save the Date:  Candidate Training  Sessions August 25th at UCLA;
Strategy Meetings August 26th

The  CCWG and Los Angeles County Green Party activists are organizing
candidate  training sessions to be held on August 25, 2007, at the  
University of
California, Los Angeles.  Plans in progress also include a possible forum   
of
GPUS presidential candidates Saturday evening and strategy planning  
sessions  on
Sunday, August 26th.  For more information, contact Warner Bloomberg  CCWG
Coordinator at (408) 295-9353 or _wsb3attyca at aol.com_  
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 22 18:30:22 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:30:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] RECLAIMING RICHMOND: The city's Green Party Mayor
	Gayle McLaughlin and a cadre of residents fight to take back
	the shoreline for public use
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/22/CMGB5QTIDG1.DTL

RECLAIMING RICHMOND
The city's Green Party Mayor Gayle McLaughlin and a
cadre of residents fight to take back the shoreline
for public use

Tim Holt

Sunday, July 22, 2007
The Port of Richmond. Chronicle photo by Kat Wade
Whitney Dotson (left) with his grandchildren Ade-Ajai
and... Sunset on the stacks at Chevron from Nicol Knob
Trail in ... Mike Elwell takes his dog, Whitey, on a
romp on the trail... More...

Whitney Dotson knows where the wild mustard greens
grow along Richmond's shoreline. Near this same spot
during the Christmas season, he marvels at the sight
of tens of thousands of waterfowl, pausing to rest on
their flight along the Great Pacific Flyway.

Dotson, 62, his face framed by graying dreadlocks, has
the sunny disposition of a born optimist. And he has a
vision for his hometown's future, one that would
embrace and preserve most of the green shoreline of
this industrial city.

Growing up in a place like Richmond can sharpen your
appreciation for such things as green spaces and
wildlife.

Dotson spent his earliest years in Richmond's
notorious Seaport Apartments, low-cost housing built
toward the end of World War II to house shipyard
workers. His family had moved from Louisiana so his
father could work in the Richmond shipyards. The
apartments were right next to a pesticide and chemical
plant. Dotson and the other kids from the apartments
skimmed rocks on nearby ponds and waded through
marshes laden with toxic waste. There was often a
putrid, rotten-egg smell coming from the plant, and a
mysterious brown dust would settle on the cars around
the apartments.

Two of Dotson's sisters, one now deceased, have been
diagnosed with cancer. Dotson himself seems to have
come through unscathed; his biggest health complaint
is that his feet swell up on long plane flights.

When he was 5, Dotson's family moved into what he
calls the first black subdivision in California,
Parchester Village, fronting Richmond Bay. He still
lives there, in his boyhood home. A son, Lukman, lives
with his family just down the street.

Parchester Village is a mixture of African American
and Latino residents these days. It is no longer the
quiet suburban oasis it once was. The village
experienced two murders last year in a city with a
total of 42, a city where dead bodies are occasionally
dumped in local parks, and where residents are careful
to get behind locked doors when the sun goes down.

That's the Richmond most of us know from news reports,
but something else is going on in this city. Thanks to
the efforts of people like Dotson, Richmond is
spawning its own brand of environmentalism: a push for
a greener shoreline, a greener city and green
businesses in a city that has long been a toxic
dumping ground. It is a hardscrabble kind of
environmentalism, this push for a greener city amid
Richmond's wrecking yards, its chemical ponds and its
huge refinery. This effort goes back at least to the
1970s, and the beginnings of the modern environmental
movement in the country at large, when Richmond's two
major shoreline parks were established. Where else but
in Richmond would you find a sprawling shoreline park,
Point Pinole, situated on the former site of a
manufacturer of gunpowder and blasting caps?
Richmond's other shoreline park, Miller-Knox, replaced
chemical plants and a quarry operation.

Richmond is a city where environmentalism is no
abstract concept, where the idea of a clean
environment takes on a certain urgency. Richmond's
children are hospitalized for asthma at twice the rate
of children in the rest of Contra Costa County,
according to county health records. In 1993, 21,000
sought medical attention for respiratory problems
after concentrated sulfuric acid leaked into the
atmosphere from a faulty tank car valve at the General
Chemical plant. The city is home to one of the Bay
Area's worst toxic sites, the former pesticide plant
in Dotson's old neighborhood, still laden with a
witches' brew that includes sulfuric acid, DDT,
mercury, zinc and arsenic.

"We haven't always been as big on the environment as
we are now," says longtime Richmond Councilman Tom
Butt notes in something of an understatement. "In the
past the environmental movement was seen as something
only people of means could indulge in, an attitude
here in Richmond that we're poor, we need jobs, the
environment can come later."

For a long time, activists like Dotson and the late
Lucretia Edwards, a famous fighter for shoreline parks
in Richmond, labored in a kind of vacuum, with little
support from local government.

"But that's changing," Butt notes. "New people are
moving here from Marin and San Francisco and Oakland.
They're part of an emerging constituency that's
pushing for green issues and growing increasingly
effective. We're starting to get it, to make the
connection between a healthy environment and long-term
economic development."

In November this green-leaning constituency helped
elect Councilwoman Gayle McLaughlin as the city's
first Green Party mayor.

Some of the efforts to green Richmond have been in the
works for a while: Whitney Dotson's vision for his
hometown is in part a legacy from his father, the Rev.
Richard Daniel Dotson. A contingent from Parchester
Village, led by Dotson and determined to preserve the
marshes around the subdivision, fought off proposals
in the 1970s to replace them with a small airport,
bringing in the Sierra Club as an ally and ultimately
paving the way for the establishment of Point Pinole
Park.

The reverend's son is now the leading spokesman for a
coalition of community groups and Bay Area
environmental organizations, including the Sierra
Club, that hope to preserve nearly three-fourths of
the city's 32-mile-long shoreline. Point Pinole park
has already instituted eminent domain proceedings and
is set to absorb the 36-acre Breuner Marsh at the
park's southern boundary. Next, Dotson's group is
targeting an expanse of meadowland west and south of
Parchester Village known as the Crescent, the very
place where Dotson finds his wild greens.

The idea of opening up most of Richmond's shoreline
for public recreation may seem a little far-fetched
for a city whose shoreline has long been dominated by
commerce, principally the Chevron oil refinery and the
city's deepwater port. But consider this: A city that
had only 30 feet of open shoreline as recently as the
1960s now has 9 miles. Richmond can already boast 24.5
miles of completed Bay Trail, by far the longest
stretch in any Bay Area city. (The Bay Trail, when
completed, will ring San Francisco and San Pablo bays
with 500 miles of pathways for hikers and cyclists.)
Rich Walkling of the Natural Heritage Institute in San
Francisco, an ally of Dotson's, has been investigating
potential parkland acquisitions along Richmond's north
shoreline. He believes it's feasible to open up half
of Richmond's shoreline within the next two decades.
And, like Dotson, he wants to start with the marshes
around Parchester Village. Walkling is hoping that
funds from the recently approved state park bonds
measure, Proposition 84, can be used to acquire them
in the near future because, as he points out, there
are other proposals on the table for housing and light
industrial development on these same shoreline
parcels.

With little fanfare until recently, Richmond has been
attracting green businesses. The lure has been an
abundance of inexpensive industrial space --
inexpensive at least by Bay Area standards -- and the
proximity to the sophisticated shipping infrastructure
that is part of Richmond's industrial legacy: two
major rail lines, a deepwater port and nearby
interstate freeways. New, green businesses outgrowing
their startup sites have found a home in Richmond.

"Richmond's one of the few places left in the Bay Area
that's supportive of manufacturing," notes James
Sheppard, president of a company that makes
countertops from recycled glass. "Berkeley, where we
came from, seems to be trying to convert everything to
high-end condos."

Sheppard's company, Vetrazzo, moved into the historic
520,000-square-foot plant where the Ford Motor Co.
once built cars and where a legion of Rosie the
Riveters put the finishing touches on tanks bound for
the Pacific during World War II. Sheppard's company
will soon have a new neighbor, PowerLight, another
Berkeley startup, which installs solar power systems
all over the world.

Sheppard plans to start running his operation entirely
on solar power once his new neighbor arrives in
October. The company already ships its countertops via
a small fleet of biodiesel-powered trucks owned by
another Richmond operation, Blue Sky Trucking.

The greening of Richmond reached a kind of crescendo
in November, when Richmond voters elected their Green
Party mayor. The candidacy of McLaughlin, who moved to
Richmond seven years ago, no doubt benefited from the
fact that her two principal opponents were African
Americans who split the vote of that constituency.
Gary Bell, a former City Council member and mortgage
broker, had already failed to get re-elected to the
council in 2004. McLaughlin's other main opponent,
incumbent Mayor Irma Anderson, was perceived by many
voters as well intentioned but ineffective. And she
provided the perfect foil for McLaughlin's low-budget,
populist campaign: Anderson was supported by the
city's business establishment, while McLaughlin
refused to accept corporate donations and was the
target of numerous hit pieces financed (via PACs) by
Chevron and the Council of Industries, Richmond's
leading business organization.

McLaughlin was a vocal supporter of Measure T, a
municipal industrial tax, on the same November ballot.
The tax, opposed by Anderson, would have raised
millions from Chevron for the city's coffers.

McLaughlin defeated Anderson by fewer than 300 votes
but spent only $28,000 to Anderson's $110,000.

An even bigger surprise was McLaughlin's election to
the City Council back in 2004. Running a similar
low-budget campaign, she came in third in a field of
15 candidates for four at-large seats on the council.
It was the first dramatic sign that Richmond's
politics were shifting in a new direction.

A Green Party member and former anti-war activist from
Chicago might seem like an odd fit for Richmond, but
the Green Party label is a little misleading.
McLaughlin comes from working-class roots; her father
was a carpenter, and the family lived in a blue-collar
neighborhood. Her announced intention as mayor of
making Richmond "the green industrial capital of the
Bay Area" is probably more than just a slogan: She
understands the importance of manufacturing and
industrial jobs for working-class families -- and, in
a city with Richmond's environmental history, the
health benefits that go with them.

And, despite her party label, she's not exactly an
environmental firebrand. In general she comes across
as something rare in politics: a gentle, nurturing
sort -- except when she gets on the subject of
corporate influence in politics. Her principal role at
present seems to be that of a spirited cheerleader for
Richmond's burgeoning environmental and progressive
movement. "The tent I'm building is a big one," she
says.

By her election to the city's highest office, she has
become the symbol, the figurehead, for Richmond's new
green direction. And her personality -- friendly, warm
and open -- may be just what's needed to nurture
grassroots efforts, like Dotson's, that are already
well advanced. The mayor has already pledged to make
his and Walkling's vision of an expanded shoreline
park part of the city's new general plan.

She's also doing some cheerleading for green
businesses, getting the council to pass a resolution
declaring Richmond a "green business development
zone." It's not clear precisely what that means; her
aides are working on a follow-up initiative that is
supposed to provide additional incentives for green
businesses to move to the city.

And McLaughlin is using her new bully pulpit to keep
nudging Richmond away from its historic attitude,
reinforced during the lean post-World War II years,
that it can't do anything to rattle its industrial
base, notably Chevron. In taking on the city's largest
employer, McLaughlin harks back to her rabble-rousing
anti-war days in Chicago, and she seems to sincerely
believe that a revival of the grassroots activism that
blossomed in the '60s and '70s is possible today in
Richmond.

"There's an old saying here, that Richmond's a
plantation, and Chevron's the plantation owner,"
Councilman Butt says with a chuckle. McLaughlin seems
to think the plantation is ripe for rebellion. Butt, a
political ally, agrees: "For the first time in a
century," he observes, "the City Council is starting
to stand up to Chevron."

Last year, before the mayoral election, McLaughlin
helped persuade the council to rescind the longtime
practice of allowing Chevron to self-inspect and
self-permit its own projects. She describes Richmond
as a city "which has suffered from decades of oil
industry pollution" and promises that the city will
carefully scrutinize Chevron's latest proposed
refinery modifications, designed to allow the company
to process the dirtier crude oil that's being dredged
from the world's depleting oil reserves.

Not everyone is convinced that the current City
Council is ready to confront Chevron on this new
project, despite the mayor's determination to do so.
"If it's a matter of serious economic concern to
Chevron, they're going to get their way," claims
longtime political activist Juan Reardon, who managed
both of McLaughlin's campaigns. "Everyone knows that
taking on Chevron jeopardizes your chances of getting
re-elected to the council or of running successfully
for higher office."

"That kind of statement really impugns the integrity
of the council," responds Chevron spokesman Dean
O'Hair. "If we ran the council the way some people say
we do, it wouldn't be taking us three years to get a
permit for this latest project."

Last year, with Mayor Anderson dissenting, the council
voted to put a proposal on the ballot for a special
tax on all Richmond industries that process raw
materials. The tax would have brought in $8.5 million
to city coffers, $8 million of that from Chevron.

"They make that much in an hour," says McLaughlin with
a chortle. The proposed Measure T went down to defeat
on the same ballot that put McLaughlin in the top
spot, but she vows to try again, hoping that the money
raised from the tax can be used to fund employment and
job training programs for kids from low-income
families, part of her "social justice" platform.

McLaughlin is still scrambling for funds, but she
hopes to establish a Richmond Youth Corps program that
would employ 1,000 at-risk kids year 'round to restore
creeks, repair roads and help in libraries. She has
already managed to boost the city's summer jobs
program for youth from 290 positions last year to 350
this year.

And the new mayor is also seeking funds for a
crime-prevention program that would send "peacekeeping
teams" with mediation skills into crime-ridden
neighborhoods. The teams would provide links on a
case-by-case basis to substance abuse, mental health,
vocational training and other government assistance
programs.

Despite Reardon's doubts, the current City Council at
times seems downright eager to play hardball with
Chevron. It recently authorized the new mayor to ask
the State Lands Commission to refuse to renew
Chevron's lease on state-owned lands underneath the
oil company's Richmond wharf operation -- where it
receives its crude oil -- unless Chevron stops
blocking completion of the last remaining gap in the
Bay Trail, which is on Chevron property.

"I'm surprised and disappointed Chevron isn't
cooperating to finish the trail," says Bruce Beyaert,
a Richmond resident and volunteer who's been
coordinating development of Richmond's portion of the
trail. "After all, they've got plenty of competent
people who should be able to figure out a way to close
the gap." Beyaert should know. He was an executive in
Chevron's San Francisco office for 33 years, retiring
in 1992.

The company has cited security and safety concerns as
reasons for blocking the trail through its refinery
operation, currently sending cyclists on an
alternative route that skirts a busy stretch of
freeway. However, in a recent interview, O'Hair said
the company is willing to re-evaluate both routes.

An almost-completed Bay Trail, the push for a greener
shoreline and an influx of green businesses provide
high-profile evidence of Richmond's new green
direction, but evidence of Richmond's greening is
popping up all over the city: near the center of town,
a new bicycle and pedestrian "greenway" on an old
railroad right-of-way; just south of the Iron
Triangle, a planned "greening" of Nystrom Elementary
School, complete with native plants sprouting from its
roof; four new pocket parks along the shoreline.

Councilman Butt, another die-hard optimist, believes
that Richmond "is coming into its own as a waterfront
city." He points out that until the post-World War II
years, Richmond thrived in that role, first as a
waterfront industrial center, home to Ford's first
auto assembly plant on the West Coast, then with the
booming shipyards and war industries of World War II.

"Look, Richmond's never going to be a great city," he
admits, "but we can certainly develop our own identity
as something other than another suburb of San
Francisco."

Butt is convinced that the key to this lies in
Richmond's 32-mile-long waterfront and the current
drive to open more of that for public use, as well as
a gradual transition from heavy industry to cleaner
and greener manufacturing, as represented by the new
occupants of the city's historic Ford plant.

And that's just fine with Whitney Dotson, if it means
that future generations will have a protected green
shoreline to explore near Parchester Village and that
weary travelers are assured a permanent rest stop
along the Great Pacific Flyway.

Tim Holt is an environmental writer and the author of
"Songs of the Simple Life," a collection of essays.

This article appeared on page CM - 10 of the San
Francisco Chronicle

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Mon Jul 23 13:21:18 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:21:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Anna, Please Impeach]
Message-ID: <46A50DBE.5070904@freeshell.org>

Below is the Mountain View-VOICE "Guest Editorial " on Impeachment, 
published in the July 19 edition.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Anna, Please Impeach
Date: 	Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:20:54 -0700
From: 	Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org>
To: 	Letters <Editor at MV-VOICE.com>



Editor -   Kudos to Representative Anna Eshoo for getting after Vice 
President Cheney for illegally pressuring U.S. Interior Department 
(U.S.D.I.) officials to divert water needed to maintain salmon in the 
Klamath river.  According to the July 13 VOICE, Eshoo stated, "The vice 
president is not above the law or immune from Congressional oversight."

Great!  Now Rep. Eshoo can follow up to prove her claim that Cheney is  
not above the law,  by helping to invoke the impeachment process.  The  
Vice President - and the President - are indeed chargable for allegedly 
misusing their high offices, for violating the Constitution, for crimes 
against humanity, for committing fraud, and for a number of other 
blatant offenses. 

After the House Judiciary  Committee places an impeachment bill on its 
calendar, investigative hearings and debating  precede the vote on 
impeachment.  If a simple  majority of the House vote to impeach Cheney 
and/or Bush they will be tried in the Senate.  The Senate will 
subsequently decide if the charges warrant removing them from office.

The general consensus among Rep. Eshoo's constituents seems that they 
want Cheney and Bush to be impeached.

On the PBS "Bill Moyers Journal," Friday, July 13, Moyers hosted 
constitutional scholars, John Nichols and Bruce Fein, who eloquently  
made the case on how critically important it is to uphold and protect 
the people's Constitution by utilizing its impeachment prerogative.  
They repeatedly emphasized that if Cheney and Bush are not held 
accountable for their constitutional violations, it will result in a 
very dangerous precedent that  future  presidential administrations 
could perpetuate.

Anna Eshoo's colleague, Dennis Kucinich, from Ohio, has already authored 
an impeach Vice President bill (H. Res. 333) and has gained the 
cosponsorship of fifteen other House members.  However, more cosponsors 
are needed to help induce House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to retract her 
edict to keep impeachment "off the table."

Representative Eshoo needs our support to take a stand to uphold the 
Constitution through the legal process of impeachment.  It's the right 
and patriotic thing to do.

Representative Anna Eshoo's contact numbers are:  202-225-8104 (Wash. DC);
202-225-8890 (DC Fax);   650-323-2984  (Palo Alto);   
annagram at mail.house.gov  (E-mail)

For in depth information on the Impeachment process, go to the American 
Bar web site  on impeachment at:   
http://www.abnet.org/publiced/impeach2.html

Fred Duperrault
500 W. Middlefield Road, #45
Mountain View, CA 94043
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From cbrouillet at igc.org  Mon Jul 23 14:50:21 2007
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:50:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment pressure on Eshoo
Message-ID: <E1ID5nG-0000F2-00@pop01.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

Great work on the Impeachment editorial in the Mountain View Voice, Fred!

I made myself a new orange shirt with Impeach 
Cheney First emblazoned upon it. Had I known of 
the noon Impeachment action at Pelosi's office- I 
would have posted ithe event on my websitte, and 
gone to it- but the first I heard about it was just before noon...

I bicycled to Eshoo's office this afternoon with 
a half dozen "Impeach Cheney First" petitions and a letter:

July 23, 2007

Congresswoman Eshoo,

      Today, I am delivering to you additional 
signatures, gathered locally on our ?Impeach Cheney First? petition.

      The imperative for Impeachment of Cheney 
(and Bush) continues to grow. The recent July 17, 
2007 Executive Order entitled "Blocking Property 
of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization 
Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the 
authority to confiscate the assets of "certain 
persons" who oppose the US led war in Iraq and ?criminalize dissent.?

      A large number of Americans believe that it 
is the Executive branch of government that 
threatens our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and 
has acted illegally to occupy other nations.

      A very chilling ?Top Secret document? was leaked which says:

?because of ?growing popular unrest in the United 
States, caused by the prolonged war in Iraq 
.coupled with obvious Congressional inaction,? 
the U.S. military has drawn up plans for 
combating domestic U.S. civil insurrections. This 
is not a theoretical study but a very specific 
one. Units to be used domestically are listed in 
detail as are detention centers, etc.

?As a result of this, plans are now in train to 
segregate, retrain and reequip certain 
anti-insurgent U.S. military units now serving in 
Iraq and to prepare them for quick transfer back 
to the United States for use "as needed" The 
Pentagon command believes that such civil 
insurrections are not only a possibility but a 
very real probability in the event that the 
President and his advisors maintain their present 
course vis a vis the Iraqi war.

?It is interesting to note that "foreign 
intelligence representatives, now active in the 
United States? (read Mossad) are to be subject to 
?arrest, confinement and eventual deportation to their country of origin."

?The report and several attached ones, run to 
almost 900 pages and cannot be put up in their 
current form. However, I will list some of the more important data here:

?Classification: Top Secret-Noforn as of 1 June 2007
Distribution Restriction: Distribution authorized 
to the DOD and DOD contractors only to maintain 
operations security. This determination was made 
on 1 June 2007. Other requests for this document 
must be referred to (redacted)

?Destruction Notice: Destroy by any method that 
will prevent disclosure of contents or reconstruction of the document. 
.

?This publication uses the term insurgent to 
describe those taking part in any activity 
designed to undermine or to overthrow the established authorities



?Counterinsurgency is those military, 
paramilitary, political, economic, psychological, 
and civic actions taken by a government to defeat 
insurgency (JP 1-02). It is an offensive approach 
involving all elements of national power; it can 
take place across the range of operations and spectrum of conflict 
 ?

I don?t think we want or need civil war or major 
counter-insurgency efforts launched in the United 
States against the Peace Movement.

Congressman DeFazio, D-Ore, as a member of the 
U.S. House on the Homeland Security Committee, is 
permitted to examine classified material. He 
asked the White House to see documents outlining 
the plan to conduct the government of the United 
States after a significant terrorist attack. On 
Wednesday, DeFazio was denied access to the documents.

The administration?s behavior is highly 
questionable, extremely secretive, and points to 
their efforts to hide the truth, avoid 
accountability, put themselves above the law of the land.
Only impeachment, genuine investigations, some 
accountability are going to slow, or halt, the 
imperial grab for power, and threats to world peace currently underway.

I implore you to remember your oath of office and 
to serve the Constitution, and people of the 
United States. Show your courage and stand up for 
truth, support Kucinich?s articles of 
impeachment, urge Conyers to move forward with 
impeachment, halt another ?false flag attack? 
upon the US, and stop the impending war on Iran.

Sincerely,
Carol Brouillet

(More details posted on my blog at 
http://www.communitycurrency.org/9-11.html#UP )
This evening, on my radio show 
http://questioningwar-organizingresistance.blogspot.com/ 
Matthew Sullivan will report on the DC Impeachmeent events happening now.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 15:38:29 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] VTA to cut 22 service,
	relents on 88 after hailstorm of PA protest
Message-ID: <269606.56917.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/article/2007-7-21-pa-vta-routes
Saturday Jul 21

VTA will bring back popular routes

New, smaller buses planned for 88 line in response to
Palo Alto residents' complaints

By Kristina Peterson / Daily News Staff Writer
When Palo Alto spoke loudly, the Santa Clara Valley
Transportation Authority listened - for the most part,
at least.

After fielding numerous complaints at a recent meeting
about a proposal to eliminate its 88 bus route, the
transportation authority next week will unveil a
revised bus routes plan that includes several changes
demanded by Palo Alto residents.

According to that plan, the 88 bus will continue to
serve Gunn High School and the residential area around
Fabian Drive, as well as the new Jewish community
center under construction and nearby senior housing
projects.

"I know those were some critical issues," VTA
spokeswoman Bernice Alaniz said Friday.

However, she noted, the "community buses" will be
smaller than the current ones. At 28 feet long, they
can accommodate up to 25 passengers, 15 fewer than
standard buses.

In late May, the VTA unveiled a preliminary new route
schedule that eliminated regular bus service to avoid
competing against Palo Alto's free shuttle to Gunn
High School and the Veterans Affairs Health Care
System, among other places. The proposed changes were
part of a countywide Comprehensive Operations Analysis
plan to shift resources to more popular service areas.

But Alaniz said the VTA listened to the objections
raised by irate Palo Alto bus riders and made some
revisions to the original plan.

In response to concerns from senior citizens, the 88
route will continue to serve the San Antonio Shopping
Center. Likewise, the 35 line that also had been
proposed for elimination will be reinstated to serve
the Stanford Shopping Center, she said.

But the VTA will still be slashing local service as it
concentrates buses in its higher-use areas closer to
San Jose.

The 22 route, which presently extends into Menlo Park
on every other bus, will now end in Palo Alto, Alaniz
said.

"We are concerned that they are reducing the amount of
service in Palo Alto," said Gayle Likens, the city's
transportation manager. She said several neighborhoods
along Louis Road and Channing Avenue will not be
served by the new 88 route from South Palo Alto to
Midtown.

Likens said the city appreciates restoration of the 35
route from the downtown transit center to the Stanford
Shopping Center. "That helps riders in Palo Alto
because they can continue to take the VTA service
without a transfer to the SamTrans buses," she said.

Still, Likens said the city would like to have "more
of a dialogue" with VTA on its latest plan, set to be
released in full Wednesday.

Palo Alto school board member Mandy Lowell said she
thinks it is "terrific" that service will be continued
to Gunn, but is concerned that the smaller buses may
not be adequate. Gunn students have told her the
standard buses are nearly always packed, she said.

"It would be very unfortunate if the net result of
this decision is fewer kids using public
transportation," she added.

Public input on the new route maps will continue next
month, until the VTA's board of directors votes on the
proposal Aug. 30, Alaniz said. The first phase of
changes is expected to take effect in January.


E-mail Kristina Peterson at
kpeterson at dailynewsgroup.com. 

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 23 22:35:11 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:35:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Agenda County Council Meeting Tuesday evening 7pm
	Sunnyvale
Message-ID: <250109.158.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

When: 7P, Tuesday July 24th, 2007
Where: @ Palace Cafe, 139 S. Murphy St., Sunnyvale

Preliminary Agenda:
1) Bylaw for Regional Rep election method 
2) Tapestry in Talent tabling prep
a) gather tablers well in advance as well as tabling
materials.  
b) Ask several people to make a small number of phone
calls.
3) September or October candidate training event.
4) Establish county party goals, including an outline
of approach

If more time is needed for #4 Jim Doyle has offered to
continue that conversation at his house on next Sunday
mid to late afternoon.

Below is the actual version of the bylaw amendment I
presented at the 7/5/07 GPSCC General County meeting. 
Jim Stauffer mentioned he'd like to offer some edits
so I imagine we'll have his input soon.


Green is Logarithmic!

Drew

----------
ARTICLE 9   REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVES, ALTERNATES

9.1   Representation on the statewide coordinating
committee is on a regional basis. Regional
representatives and alternates to the statewide
coordinating committee are elected biannually for a
nominal two year term that expires at the end of the
term at which time the seat will remain open until the
counties have agreed on new representatives.  Ideally
the counties' agreement will be in place before the
expiration of the previous term(s). The election will
be announced on email lists at least 15 days in
advance and the announcement will be an  agenda item.

9.2 Declaring Candidacy
     Candidates shall announce their availability on
the email lists of the county councils of the region
prior to the administrative meeting at which a vacancy
or replacement is considered.  "None of the Above"
shall be considered an acceptable candidate. The term
'administrative meeting' in these bylaws shall be
understood include but be limited only to General
County, or County Council meetings.

9.3 Candidate Presentations
     The administrative meeting will have agenda items
for the candidates to present themselves, to describe
their goals, and to answer questions.

9.4 Decision
     Approval of a representative will be a decision
item at the administrative meeting following the one
at which the candidates made their presentations.

9.5 Regional Coordination
     A candidate must be approved by the several
counties of the region.  If different candidates are
approved by the various counties the decision(s) 
shall be retaken by the counties until agreement
between the counties is reached.

9.6 Regional Balance
     It shall be an objective to have the regional
representative and the first alternate regional
representative be from different counties
wherever possible.

9.7 Replacement
     A regional representative or an alternate
regional representative may be replaced using the same
process for selecting a regional representative or an
alternate regional representative.

9.8 Effective Date
    This amendment, Article 9 of the by-laws shall
take effect on its date of passage, {ed. note: date of
passage to be inserted here upon passage}.

9.9 Expiration of Article 9
     The process for the selection of regional
representatives to the statewide coordinating
committee shall lapse whenever regions are 
redefined.

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 24 11:47:39 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:47:39 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bizarre: Sheehan vs. Conyers
Message-ID: <46A6494B.9020402@earthlink.net>


It seems really bizarre to me.  Apparently Conyers
asked the Capitol police to arrest the impeachment
supporters in his office, and 46 were arrested.

Remember that Conyers held hearings in Ohio about
foul play during the 2004 election.  And he
supported impeachent hearings during the last
(2005-2006) Congress.

What is going on?

Would it be hyperbole to say that this is the worst
constitutional crisis ever (Bush Administration vs.
Congress)?

...

Drew already sent two emails about the arrests.
Here are 4 more stories about the arrests, including
a lot of criticism of Democrats...

"Peace Activist Cindy Sheehan Arrested at Congress"
by Thomas Ferraro (Reuters)
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/24/2718/

"Congressman John Conyers Betrays the American People"
by Medea Benjamin
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/24/2719/

"John Conyers Is No Martin Luther King"
by Ray McGovern
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/24/2736/

"Office Arrests: The Shame of John Conyers"
by Dave Lindorff
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/24/2720/

...

And here is an opinion piece about the balance of powers:


"Congress Must Reassert The Balance of Powers"
by Melanie Sloan (The San Francisco Chronicle)

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/24/2730/

NOTE: she outlines specific steps that Congress could
take.


Gerry






From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Jul 24 18:06:39 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:06:39 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sheehan Arrested Again - Haven't Seen Such Rage
	Since the 60's
In-Reply-To: <E89C0D207F4A6A428C39BABE4ADD950B010775A7@kpfk2k3.KPFK.local>
References: <E89C0D207F4A6A428C39BABE4ADD950B010775A7@kpfk2k3.KPFK.local>
Message-ID: <8C99C6F307CBB6D-1AA4-5728@FWM-M02.sysops.aol.com>


 Cindy Sheehan and others agitating for impeachment were arrested in John Conyers' office on Capitol Hill.? Cindy has declared her candidacy against Nancy Pelosi in San Francisco.? 

Events are moving fast.? i can't keep up with all the messages and statements are flying around the Internet.? 

What does it mean??? Where is all this going to lead us? 

I have no idea!? 

I'll tell you this, honestly.? Speaking as one who lived through those years, I've haven't seen such rage on the left in this country since the late 1960s.? 

If the Democrats think they can contain it with this MoveOn.org, DailyKos "netroots" bullshit and platitudes from Hillary and Barack I fear they may be sadly mistaken.?? Some people are already calling for Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel to walk out.?  

Fellow American, this is serious stuff, especially George Bush is totally divorced from reality and since the "conservatives" are just as violently crazy as ever.? 

No matter how much the corporate capitalist media lies, the economy still sucks.? The immigration thing is hot and global warming is getting hotter.? Bin Laden still wants to strike in the U.S. again and the Bushies are incompetent enough or creepy enough to let them do it.? Bush may yet try to start another war with Iran and the clueless Dems have already given him a green light to do that!

One of the strongest "talking points" for impeachment *IS* to make sure Bush's dictatorial powers do not end up in the hands of the Democrats.? 

Personally, I don't want to have anything to do with the Democrats.? Their attitude *SINCE* the 2006 election has alienated me even more.? For the first time in my life I don't mind saying openly that I actually *dislike* them.? At a time when idiots like Todd Gitlin and Eric Alterman are saying "Come Home!" to the Democratic Party, I'm more convinced that ever trying to play ball with them was the biggest mistake of my life.? Democrats hate their own voters and over time their half-assed corrupted "liberalism" always sets the stage for the next crisis.? 

The last, best final argument for third parties is that they are a "lesser evil" than civil war!? 


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 25 19:11:41 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:11:41 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling opportunity
Message-ID: <46A802DD.2060901@sbcglobal.net>

The San Francisco mime troupe invites us to table at two of their
performances at Mitchell Park in Palo Alto:

Dear Jim,


I am pleased to announce that the *San Francisco Mime Troupe* is 
entering its 48^th season with free theater in the parks. As our season 
progresses, we are trying to reach as many local groups as possible, 
inviting you to come out and see our show! *We will be playing in Palo 
Alto on August 5^th and 30^th in Mitchell Park. *

About the show?.

/Making a Killing //follows two army newspaper reporters assigned to 
write a puff piece on the construction of an American funded hospital in 
Iraq. But as the facts unravel, it soon becomes clear that there's 
corruption, death, music and mayhem lurking behind this benevolent 
seeming humanitarian project. Back in Washington, Dick and Condi are 
manipulating intelligence and in Iraq, a cabal of 
military-industrial-Neo-Con colluders will stop at nothing to hide the 
shocking truth!/

We, at the Mime Troupe, feel that our message is more important than 
ever, and we wish to reach the broadest possible audience this summer. 
We would like to call on your help to get the word out about our show. 
*We are also inviting* *organizations* *to table* at the performances. 
In reaching out to organizations such as yours, we hope to create 
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul 25 19:29:15 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:29:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] protest extraordinary rendition
Message-ID: <46A806FB.6010308@sbcglobal.net>

There will be a large crowd for the Grand Prix in San Jose
on Sunday.  Perhaps you would like to participate in the
protest sponsored by the usual suspects:

*Sunday, July 29*

*Protest Torture Profiteer Jeppesen on Grand Prix Sunday-- San Jose*

*11:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. in front of Jeppesen office, 225 W. Santa Clara 
St., San Jose*

Thousands of people will be in downtown San Jose for the Grand Prix Race 
on Sunday, July 29. We will be in front of the Jeppesen office to inform 
the public about Jeppesen's role in the CIA's torture flights and to get 
visibility for our demands -- Abolish the Torture Flights! -- Jeppesen, 
Break Your Ties with the CIA! Check the VTA web site for public transit 
lines to get to Santa Clara St. and Almaden Blvd.

Sponsored by South Bay Coalition to Stop Torture (South Bay 
Mobilization, San Jose Peace Center, Amnesty International Group 35) and 
Raging Grannies Action League



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Jul 25 21:52:01 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:52:01 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Time to Start Thinking About the Next State
	Meeting (September 8-9th)
Message-ID: <c32.15771818.33d98271@aol.com>

Folks:  The next GPCA Plenary (aka General Assembly of  Delegates) is 
scheduled for the weekend of September 8-9th in Riverside  County.  Again, it is 
doubtful that an agenda packet will be available  before our next GPSCC monthly 
meeting on August 2nd (first Thursday).  The  GPSCC can be expected to have four 
votes.  We need to discuss and agree on  delegates and alternates so people 
can put the plenary into their schedules and  we can anticipate carpooling or 
other travel arrangements.  
Since the meeting is in southern California, our  delegates may be eligible 
for modest financial assistance for travel.   But we can't apply if we don't 
select our delegates.  We have been having a  problem sending a gender balance 
delegation.  This needs put on the meeting  agenda.  Warner



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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Wed Jul 25 23:26:35 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:26:35 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Debbie Mytels for Palo Alto City Council!
Message-ID: <46A83E9B.4020203@ispwest.com>

According to the Palo Alto Daily News, Debbie Mytels took out
papers to run for Palo Alto City Council. I'd like to recomend
that we support this campaign. I have known her for years, and
I think she is everything we want to see in Government!

What kind of things should we do to help?

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Pictures of the protest at Zoe Lofgren's we held while 
Cindy Shehan was being arrested in DC.



From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu Jul 26 14:25:30 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Farm Bill
Message-ID: <46A9114A.2070001@freeshell.org>

Friends,

Democratic Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi is 
playing money politics with the socialism for the rich Farm Bill.  The 
bill will continue to provide pork for the huge corn, cotton and rice 
farmers and will do little or nothing for the vegetable, fruit and nut 
growers. 

Great amounts of the corn grow will be used to produce ethanol while 
most cotton and rice will be exported. In many cases the subsidized 
exporters will under-sell small struggling farmers in countries that owe 
great debts to the World Bank creditors.  Also, the small family farms, 
in most cases, are beneficial to the environment while the big corporate 
farms are quite harmful to the environment and drive out small farmers 
who can't  compete with the behemoths.  (Another example of  "Ma and Pa 
Capitalism" being canibalized by big corporations in the "free market" 
system.

Oxfam America has urged its listed contributors to call their respective 
House representatives to ask them to  support the "Fairness Amendment," 
H.R. 2419, authored by Rep. Ron Kind (WI Dem.) and Rep. Jeff Flake (AZ 
Repu).  It will reduce trade-distorting, shift funds to feed  hungry and 
minority families and do much to protect the environment.

Much credit should be given to the S.F. Chronicle for today's lead 
editorial that takes Pelosi to task for leading the charge for the 
counter-productive Farm Bill.

Pelosi has also been keeping impeachment off the table for strictly 
political reasons.

Fred D.    


From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 15:19:42 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Dismantling Racism Workshop Held by Green Party
	at National Meeting
Message-ID: <650895.21948.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I attended this workshop, and got a LOT out of it.  It
is my hope in this county party we will actively
combat racism and work to incorporate people of color
and related issues into our activism and our
leadership.


Green is colorful!

Drew

Dismantling Racism Workshop Held by Green Party at
National Meeting

Extracted from a report by Isabelle Buonocore who
attended the workshop.
For the full report, email:
isabellebuonocore at hotmail.com

The Green Party of the United States offered a
Dismantling Racism Workshop, July 11-13, 2007 , at its
annual national meeting in Reading , Pennsylvania . It
was an intensive 18-hour workshop, held over 3
consecutive days, with attendees working together and
having meals together. There were 29 participants, 45
percent of whom were people of color, and 39 percent
were non-Green Party members who came from places in
Pennsylvania as close as Reading and as far as
Harrisburg .

Rita Harris, a woman of color from Tennessee , and
Bill Price, a white man from West Virginia ,
facilitated the workshop. They took turns providing
information and facilitating group sharing and
discussion. In one of the workshop sessions, Rita and
Bill facilitated separate color and white caucuses
giving people a chance to "work" within their own
identity group. Rita and Bill are professionals who
work for the Environmental Justice Program of the
Sierra Club.

The workshop began on a Wednesday with a private
dinner buffet in the same room that cloistered the
participants for all their workshop sessions till noon
on Friday.

The workshop dealt with individuals' experience, lack
of experience, consciousness, and denial of racism. It
examined racism in assumptions, communication, and
practices from the personal to the cultural and
institutional. The cycle of oppression and "white
privilege" were concepts that we explored. We also
discussed the meaning of "white allies" and what white
people and people of color might do on a personal and
organizational level to confront racism. The grinding
effect of racism on the lives of people of color, the
lack of awareness of white privilege by whites, and
the impact of both was discussed.

One of the Dismantling Racism Workshop sessions
addressed the subject of "white allies" for people of
color (white persons who do not remain silent but
confront racism). We shared our experience of how
people of color and white people are treated when they
bring up the need to address racism in predominantly
white organizations. When a person of color brings up
racism it is seen by whites as self-serving. To be a
white ally for people of color is to risk having other
white people not like you.

The last workshop session was about actions Greens
could take toward dismantling racism, and how we could
work to transform our organizations to be fully
inclusive. The list of some of what we could do is
long, but here are a few things. Become better
educated about people of color. Read publications by
people of color - outside the white canon of writers.
Listen to what people of color have to say. Interrupt
"jokes" about people of color and ethnic groups. At
all future Green Party Annual National Meetings, have
racism on the agenda either as a workshop or a panel
presentation. Have strategic meetings with Greens who
think "we don't have a problem." Don't stifle anger,
it represents something that needs to be heard;
determine what that is. Primarily we must keep in mind
that we cannot expect change if we keep doing things
the same way.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 21:45:33 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:45:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Tillman was apparently fragged! Murdered by M-16
	at close range
Message-ID: <462683.34214.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I suspected this all along so I'm not in the least
surprised.  Saddened but not surprised.


Green is Truth!

Drew Johnson

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_re_us/tillman_friendly_fire

AP: New details on Tillman's death

By MARTHA MENDOZA, AP National Writer Thu Jul 26, 7:59
PM ET

SAN FRANCISCO - Army medical examiners were suspicious
about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in
Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success to
get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL
player's death amounted to a crime, according to
documents obtained by The Associated Press.

"The medical evidence did not match up with the, with
the scenario as described," a doctor who examined
Tillman's body after he was killed on the battlefield
in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

The doctors ? whose names were blacked out ? said that
the bullet holes were so close together that it
appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired
from a mere 10 yards or so away.

Ultimately, the Pentagon did conduct a criminal
investigation, and asked Tillman's comrades whether he
was disliked by his men and whether they had any
reason to believe he was deliberately killed. The
Pentagon eventually ruled that Tillman's death at the
hands of his comrades was a friendly-fire accident.

The medical examiners' suspicions were outlined in
2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this week
by the Defense Department in response to a Freedom of
Information Act request.

Among other information contained in the documents:

? In his last words moments before he was killed,
Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to
shut up and stop "sniveling."

? Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory
e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as
the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire
investigation that resulted in administrative, or
non-criminal, punishments.

? The three-star general who kept the truth about
Tillman's death from his family and the public told
investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory
and couldn't recall details of his actions.

? No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the
scene ? no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any
government equipment struck.

The Pentagon and the Bush administration have been
criticized in recent months for lying about the
circumstances of Tillman's death. The military
initially told the public and the Tillman family that
he had been killed by enemy fire. Only weeks later did
the Pentagon acknowledge he was gunned down by fellow
Rangers.

With questions lingering about how high in the Bush
administration the deception reached, Congress is
preparing for yet another hearing next week.

The Pentagon is separately preparing a new round of
punishments, including a stinging demotion of retired
Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., 60, according to
military officials who spoke on condition of anonymity
because the punishments under consideration have not
been made public.

In more than four hours of questioning by the Pentagon
inspector general's office in December 2006, Kensinger
repeatedly contradicted other officers' testimony, and
sometimes his own. He said on some 70 occasions that
he did not recall something.

At one point, he said: "You've got me really scared
about my brain right now. I'm really having a
problem."

Tillman's mother, Mary Tillman, who has long suggested
that her son was deliberately killed by his comrades,
said she is still looking for answers and looks
forward to the congressional hearings next week.

"Nothing is going to bring Pat back. It's about
justice for Pat and justice for other soldiers. The
nation has been deceived," she said.

The documents show that a doctor who autopsied
Tillman's body was suspicious of the three gunshot
wounds to the forehead. The doctor said he took the
unusual step of calling the Army's Human Resources
Command and was rebuffed. He then asked an official at
the Army's Criminal Investigation Division if the CID
would consider opening a criminal case.

"He said he talked to his higher headquarters and they
had said no," the doctor testified.

Also according to the documents, investigators pressed
officers and soldiers on a question Mrs. Tillman has
been asking all along.

"Have you, at any time since this incident occurred
back on April 22, 2004, have you ever received any
information even rumor that Cpl. Tillman was killed by
anybody within his own unit intentionally?" an
investigator asked then-Capt. Richard Scott.

Scott, and others who were asked, said they were
certain the shooting was accidental.

Investigators also asked soldiers and commanders
whether Tillman was disliked, whether anyone was
jealous of his celebrity, or if he was considered
arrogant. They said Tillman was respected, admired and
well-liked.

The documents also shed new light on Tillman's last
moments.

It has been widely reported by the AP and others that
Spc. Bryan O'Neal, who was at Tillman's side as he was
killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving his
arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat
(expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again.

But the latest documents give a different account from
a chaplain who debriefed the entire unit days after
Tillman was killed.

The chaplain said that O'Neal told him he was hugging
the ground at Tillman's side, "crying out to God, help
us. And Tillman says to him, `Would you shut your
(expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you; you
need to do something for yourself, you sniveling ..."

___

Associated Press reporters Scott Lindlaw in Las Vegas
and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to this
story.


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 26 22:42:48 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:42:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [usgp-media] Tillman was apparently fragged!
	Murdered by M-16 at close range
In-Reply-To: <395889.15933.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <416881.6553.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

And I blogged about the stolen election of 04 shortly
after it happened, but it is still 'news' to most of
the world when the story finally is carried outside of
the blogging community in the MSM.  Stan Goff wasn't
carried by AP.  Now it is the AP that's carrying the
news so its out into the MSM.


Green is Truth!

Drew Johnson
California


--- Nan Garrett <nannetteg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is actually not 'news'. Stan Goff wrote this
> story two
> years ago.
> 
> Nan
> --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I suspected this all along so I'm not in the least
> > surprised.  Saddened but not surprised.
> > 
> > 
> > Green is Truth!
> > 
> > Drew Johnson
> > 
> >
>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_re_us/tillman_friendly_fire
> > 
> > AP: New details on Tillman's death
> > 
> > By MARTHA MENDOZA, AP National Writer Thu Jul 26,
> 7:59
> > PM ET
> > 
> > SAN FRANCISCO - Army medical examiners were
> suspicious
> > about the close proximity of the three bullet
> holes in
> > Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success
> to
> > get authorities to investigate whether the former
> NFL
> > player's death amounted to a crime, according to
> > documents obtained by The Associated Press.
> > 
> > "The medical evidence did not match up with the,
> with
> > the scenario as described," a doctor who examined
> > Tillman's body after he was killed on the
> battlefield
> > in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.
> > 
> > The doctors ? whose names were blacked out ? said
> that
> > the bullet holes were so close together that it
> > appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16
> fired
> > from a mere 10 yards or so away.
> > 
> > Ultimately, the Pentagon did conduct a criminal
> > investigation, and asked Tillman's comrades
> whether he
> > was disliked by his men and whether they had any
> > reason to believe he was deliberately killed. The
> > Pentagon eventually ruled that Tillman's death at
> the
> > hands of his comrades was a friendly-fire
> accident.
> > 
> > The medical examiners' suspicions were outlined in
> > 2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this
> week
> > by the Defense Department in response to a Freedom
> of
> > Information Act request.
> > 
> > Among other information contained in the
> documents:
> > 
> > ? In his last words moments before he was killed,
> > Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to
> > shut up and stop "sniveling."
> > 
> > ? Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory
> > e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay
> as
> > the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire
> > investigation that resulted in administrative, or
> > non-criminal, punishments.
> > 
> > ? The three-star general who kept the truth about
> > Tillman's death from his family and the public
> told
> > investigators some 70 times that he had a bad
> memory
> > and couldn't recall details of his actions.
> > 
> > ? No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at
> the
> > scene ? no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any
> > government equipment struck.
> > 
> > The Pentagon and the Bush administration have been
> > criticized in recent months for lying about the
> > circumstances of Tillman's death. The military
> > initially told the public and the Tillman family
> that
> > he had been killed by enemy fire. Only weeks later
> did
> > the Pentagon acknowledge he was gunned down by
> fellow
> > Rangers.
> > 
> > With questions lingering about how high in the
> Bush
> > administration the deception reached, Congress is
> > preparing for yet another hearing next week.
> > 
> > The Pentagon is separately preparing a new round
> of
> > punishments, including a stinging demotion of
> retired
> > Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., 60, according to
> > military officials who spoke on condition of
> anonymity
> > because the punishments under consideration have
> not
> > been made public.
> > 
> > In more than four hours of questioning by the
> Pentagon
> > inspector general's office in December 2006,
> Kensinger
> > repeatedly contradicted other officers' testimony,
> and
> > sometimes his own. He said on some 70 occasions
> that
> > he did not recall something.
> > 
> > At one point, he said: "You've got me really
> scared
> > about my brain right now. I'm really having a
> > problem."
> > 
> > Tillman's mother, Mary Tillman, who has long
> suggested
> > that her son was deliberately killed by his
> comrades,
> > said she is still looking for answers and looks
> > forward to the congressional hearings next week.
> > 
> > "Nothing is going to bring Pat back. It's about
> > justice for Pat and justice for other soldiers.
> The
> > nation has been deceived," she said.
> > 
> > The documents show that a doctor who autopsied
> > Tillman's body was suspicious of the three gunshot
> > wounds to the forehead. The doctor said he took
> the
> > unusual step of calling the Army's Human Resources
> > Command and was rebuffed. He then asked an
> official at
> > the Army's Criminal Investigation Division if the
> CID
> > would consider opening a criminal case.
> > 
> > "He said he talked to his higher headquarters and
> they
> > had said no," the doctor testified.
> > 
> > Also according to the documents, investigators
> pressed
> > officers and soldiers on a question Mrs. Tillman
> has
> > been asking all along.
> > 
> > "Have you, at any time since this incident
> occurred
> > back on April 22, 2004, have you ever received any
> > information even rumor that Cpl. Tillman was
> killed by
> > anybody within his own unit intentionally?" an
> > investigator asked then-Capt. Richard Scott.
> > 
> > Scott, and others who were asked, said they were
> > certain the shooting was accidental.
> > 
> > Investigators also asked soldiers and commanders
> > whether Tillman was disliked, whether anyone was
> > jealous of his celebrity, or if he was considered
> > arrogant. They said Tillman was respected, admired
> and
> > well-liked.
> > 
> > The documents also shed new light on Tillman's
> last
> > moments.
> > 
> > It has been widely reported by the AP and others
> that
> > Spc. Bryan O'Neal, who was at Tillman's side as he
> was
> > killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving
> his
> > arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat
> > (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again.
> > 
> > But the latest documents give a different account
> from
> > a chaplain who debriefed the entire unit days
> after
> > Tillman was killed.
> > 
> > The chaplain said that O'Neal told him he was
> hugging
> > the ground at Tillman's side, "crying out to God,
> help
> > us. And Tillman says to him, `Would you shut your
> > (expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you;
> you
> > need to do something for yourself, you sniveling
> ..."
> > 
> > ___
> > 
> > Associated Press reporters Scott Lindlaw in Las
> Vegas
> > and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to
> this
> > story.
> > 
> > 
> > ___________________
> > 
> > JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
> > The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
> > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> > 
> > "To the brave belong all things"
> > Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans
> around
> > 400BC
> > 
> > "Live humbly, laugh often and love
> unconditionally"
> > (anon)
> > 
> > 
> >        
> >
>
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 03:10:29 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [usgp-media] Tillman was apparently fragged!
	Murdered by M-16 at close range
In-Reply-To: <416881.6553.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <297053.30349.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Nan, I just took the time to again read Goff's
reconstruction and actually this new report completely
alters the story.  Goff didn't have anything about 
1) an M-16 
2) to the forehead 
3) from less that 10 yards.  All that indeed is news
with entirely new implications! 

Goff talks about "less than 40 Meters" distance and
"high velocity projecticles" (unlike M-16), rocks and
SAW rounds (again not M-16 rounds). Here's his guess:

"The personnel aboard Baker?s Hummer saw Pat Tillman
and Brian O?Neal at less than 40 meters away with
their distinctive US battle-rattle silhouettes,"

AND 

"In the hail of fire that was punctuated by tracers
chattering through the lethal cone of high-velocity
projectiles, stones were thrown at high enough speed
to wound Pat in the wrist and leg.  It is also known
that SAW ammunition hit the body armor that covered
his chest and abdomen."

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062306_tillman_files4.shtml

Green is Truth!

Drew Johnson
California


--- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> And I blogged about the stolen election of 04
> shortly
> after it happened, but it is still 'news' to most of
> the world when the story finally is carried outside
> of
> the blogging community in the MSM.  Stan Goff wasn't
> carried by AP.  Now it is the AP that's carrying the
> news so its out into the MSM.
> 
> 
> Green is Truth!
> 
> Drew Johnson
> California
> 
> 
> --- Nan Garrett <nannetteg at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > This is actually not 'news'. Stan Goff wrote this
> > story two
> > years ago.
> > 
> > Nan
> > --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I suspected this all along so I'm not in the
> least
> > > surprised.  Saddened but not surprised.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Green is Truth!
> > > 
> > > Drew Johnson
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_re_us/tillman_friendly_fire
> > > 
> > > AP: New details on Tillman's death
> > > 
> > > By MARTHA MENDOZA, AP National Writer Thu Jul
> 26,
> > 7:59
> > > PM ET
> > > 
> > > SAN FRANCISCO - Army medical examiners were
> > suspicious
> > > about the close proximity of the three bullet
> > holes in
> > > Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success
> > to
> > > get authorities to investigate whether the
> former
> > NFL
> > > player's death amounted to a crime, according to
> > > documents obtained by The Associated Press.
> > > 
> > > "The medical evidence did not match up with the,
> > with
> > > the scenario as described," a doctor who
> examined
> > > Tillman's body after he was killed on the
> > battlefield
> > > in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.
> > > 
> > > The doctors ? whose names were blacked out ?
> said
> > that
> > > the bullet holes were so close together that it
> > > appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16
> > fired
> > > from a mere 10 yards or so away.
> > > 
> > > Ultimately, the Pentagon did conduct a criminal
> > > investigation, and asked Tillman's comrades
> > whether he
> > > was disliked by his men and whether they had any
> > > reason to believe he was deliberately killed.
> The
> > > Pentagon eventually ruled that Tillman's death
> at
> > the
> > > hands of his comrades was a friendly-fire
> > accident.
> > > 
> > > The medical examiners' suspicions were outlined
> in
> > > 2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this
> > week
> > > by the Defense Department in response to a
> Freedom
> > of
> > > Information Act request.
> > > 
> > > Among other information contained in the
> > documents:
> > > 
> > > ? In his last words moments before he was
> killed,
> > > Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire
> to
> > > shut up and stop "sniveling."
> > > 
> > > ? Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory
> > > e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at
> bay
> > as
> > > the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire
> > > investigation that resulted in administrative,
> or
> > > non-criminal, punishments.
> > > 
> > > ? The three-star general who kept the truth
> about
> > > Tillman's death from his family and the public
> > told
> > > investigators some 70 times that he had a bad
> > memory
> > > and couldn't recall details of his actions.
> > > 
> > > ? No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at
> > the
> > > scene ? no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was
> any
> > > government equipment struck.
> > > 
> > > The Pentagon and the Bush administration have
> been
> > > criticized in recent months for lying about the
> > > circumstances of Tillman's death. The military
> > > initially told the public and the Tillman family
> > that
> > > he had been killed by enemy fire. Only weeks
> later
> > did
> > > the Pentagon acknowledge he was gunned down by
> > fellow
> > > Rangers.
> > > 
> > > With questions lingering about how high in the
> > Bush
> > > administration the deception reached, Congress
> is
> > > preparing for yet another hearing next week.
> > > 
> > > The Pentagon is separately preparing a new round
> > of
> > > punishments, including a stinging demotion of
> > retired
> > > Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., 60, according
> to
> > > military officials who spoke on condition of
> > anonymity
> > > because the punishments under consideration have
> > not
> > > been made public.
> > > 
> > > In more than four hours of questioning by the
> > Pentagon
> > > inspector general's office in December 2006,
> > Kensinger
> > > repeatedly contradicted other officers'
> testimony,
> > and
> > > sometimes his own. He said on some 70 occasions
> > that
> > > he did not recall something.
> > > 
> > > At one point, he said: "You've got me really
> > scared
> > > about my brain right now. I'm really having a
> > > problem."
> > > 
> > > Tillman's mother, Mary Tillman, who has long
> > suggested
> > > that her son was deliberately killed by his
> > comrades,
> > > said she is still looking for answers and looks
> > > forward to the congressional hearings next week.
> > > 
> > > "Nothing is going to bring Pat back. It's about
> > > justice for Pat and justice for other soldiers.
> > The
> > > nation has been deceived," she said.
> > > 
> > > The documents show that a doctor who autopsied
> > > Tillman's body was suspicious of the three
> gunshot
> > > wounds to the forehead. The doctor said he took
> > the
> > > unusual step of calling the Army's Human
> Resources
> > > Command and was rebuffed. He then asked an
> > official at
> > > the Army's Criminal Investigation Division if
> the
> > CID
> > > would consider opening a criminal case.
> > > 
> > > "He said he talked to his higher headquarters
> and
> > they
> > > had said no," the doctor testified.
> > > 
> > > Also according to the documents, investigators
> > pressed
> > > officers and soldiers on a question Mrs. Tillman
> > has
> > > been asking all along.
> > > 
> > > "Have you, at any time since this incident
> > occurred
> > > back on April 22, 2004, have you ever received
> any
> > > information even rumor that Cpl. Tillman was
> > killed by
> > > anybody within his own unit intentionally?" an
> > > investigator asked then-Capt. Richard Scott.
> > > 
> > > Scott, and others who were asked, said they were
> > > certain the shooting was accidental.
> > > 
> > > Investigators also asked soldiers and commanders
> > > whether Tillman was disliked, whether anyone was
> > > jealous of his celebrity, or if he was
> considered
> > > arrogant. They said Tillman was respected,
> admired
> > and
> > > well-liked.
> > > 
> > > The documents also shed new light on Tillman's
> > last
> > > moments.
> > > 
> > > It has been widely reported by the AP and others
> > that
> > > Spc. Bryan O'Neal, who was at Tillman's side as
> he
> > was
> > > killed, told investigators that Tillman was
> waving
> > his
> > > arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat
> > > (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again.
> > > 
> > > But the latest documents give a different
> account
> > from
> > > a chaplain who debriefed the entire unit days
> > after
> > > Tillman was killed.
> > > 
> > > The chaplain said that O'Neal told him he was
> > hugging
> > > the ground at Tillman's side, "crying out to
> God,
> > help
> > > us. And Tillman says to him, `Would you shut
> your
> > > (expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you;
> > you
> > > need to do something for yourself, you sniveling
> > ..."
> > > 
> > > ___
> > > 
> > > Associated Press reporters Scott Lindlaw in Las
> > Vegas
> > > and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed
> to
> > this
> > > story.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ___________________
> > > 
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> > > The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
> > > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> > > 
> > > "To the brave belong all things"
> > > Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans
> > around
> > > 400BC
> > > 
> > > "Live humbly, laugh often and love
> > unconditionally"
> > > (anon)
> > > 
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Fri Jul 27 11:01:00 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:01:00 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: BAREC Referendums Validated,
	Press Conference Today 12:30 pm
Message-ID: <c7c.12e4b8be.33db8cdc@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/27/07 8:06:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
kmathewson at secretgardens.com writes:

 
 
Dear BAREC  Friends:



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

PRESS CONFERENCE:  SAVEBAREC REFERENDUM VICTORY
JULY 27, 2007, 12:30 PM, SANTA CLARA CITY HALL, 
1500 WARBURTON  AVENUE, SANTA CLARA, CA

On July 25, 2007, the Santa Clara City Clerk informed  SaveBAREC that the 
Santa Clara County Office of the Registrar of Voters  validated the required 
signatures for both the Rezoning and the General Plan  Amendment petitions 
submitted on July 18, 2007.
 
The final validated signature count is as follows:  

Rezoning Referendum Petition: 5,157 valid signatures (3,949  needed)
General Plan Amendment Referendum Petition: 5,027 valid signatures  (3,949 
needed)
 
Based on the past five years of working within our  community, we were 
confident that the citizens of the City of Santa Clara  would support the referendum 
process to place these critical decisions on the  ballot.
 
SaveBAREC used the democratic referendum process to suspend  the Santa Clara 
City Council?s decisions.  
 
At the next regularly scheduled Council meeting, August 21,  2007, the City 
Council will have the opportunity to rescind the resolutions  they approved, 
saving the City of Santa Clara over $100,000 in ballot  costs,  placing BAREC on 
the February ballot, or having a special  election.
 
The process determining BAREC?s future is now in the voter?s  hands.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 11:28:58 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:28:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [usgp-media] Tillman was apparently fragged!
	Murdered by M-16 at close range
In-Reply-To: <115878.89394.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <990773.24496.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Nan,

I'd read Goff's and other narrative reconstructive
efforts.  Due to the extensiveness of the coverup I
always had an intuition that he'd probably pissed
someone off, got fragged and then the murder covered
up. 

It never made sense to me that it was simply a case of
'friendly fire' since even as embarassing as that
would be I'd have a hard time accepting that it would
be enough to drive such a comprehensive fraud that was
carried out on so many levels.  IMO it had to be
something really big (like a fragging) to get that
treatment.  So I never put much stock in the forest of
details given in the various reconstruction efforts. 
This is no criticism of Goff or the other reporters, I
just didn't buy the bigger picture that was portrayed
in their narrative reconstructions.

I'll stick with 'apparently fragged' because with
three M-16 rounds to the forehead at less than 10
yards, it pretty much comes down to either a) an
accident (and I don't buy that because again why the
extensive coverup unless there was some intense guilty
feelings that were being covered up) or b) murder (ie.
fragged). 

Would this be a crime of passion by an incensed fellow
soldier who blew his cool after Tillman had become
unpopular with the unit or a premeditated 'hit'
ordered from above due to impolitic statements of
Tillman?  Either way it took the unit operating as a
team to large degree to achieve this fraud.  I could
believe either scenario and since my bias is towards
simpler answers I'd probably lean towards the former.

Finally it makes me wonder who the triggerman was? 
Who was 10 yards away??? Who was in the vicinity?  We
can't know for sure, but Goff says the contingent
consisted of: 

"{SSG} Weeks took Pat, one Afghan militiaman, Brian
O?Neal (a new Ranger), and two other Rangers (we do
not have their names) with him, and began mounting a
small spur west of the road."

BTW, The Afghani was also killed.

BTW, Here's Goff's articles on Tillman:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/index.shtml#tillman

Here's some fellow bloggers with similar thoughts as
mine:
http://donspoliticalblog.blogspot.com/2007/07/was-pat-tillman-murdered.html
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-details-support-old-story-pat.html


Green is Just!

Drew Johnson
California

--- Nan Garrett <nannetteg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Okay, I have to apologize. *Some* of this IS new,
> but even
> drawing on information that Stan Goff already had,
> it draws
> different conclusions.
> 
> Stan Goff, a investigative reporter, writer,
> speaker, and
> NC Green, was also retired or former Army Special
> Forces.
> Goff's theory on Tillman, after extensive research,
> both
> speaking directly to folks who were ordered to not
> discuss
> this and trying to get open records requests and
> supporting
> Tillman's family in trying to get answers was that
> basically: the unit was sent on a fool's errand to
> begin
> with; they were ordered to deliver a tank or some
> piece of
> heavy equipment at a set date and location that
> involved a
> certain number of miles through rough terrain which
> would
> have been tough if everything went right; they had a
> breakdown, their commanders ordered them to continue
> despite there being no specific time-oriented task
> for
> which the equipment was needed, so their unit split
> up
> perhaps so that if the first part got through this
> mountainous area prone to enemy guerrilla type
> actions,
> they could send help back; the part of the unit
> Tillman was
> with came through the mountainous narrow pass as
> gunfire
> broke out, that NO ONE, either the first unit or
> Tillman's
> group, EVER specifically saw where the gunfire came
> from,
> and that everybody just started shooting; and that
> despite
> the fact that most there on the ground believed
> Tillman has
> been killed by 'friendly' fire, the folks in
> Washington
> needed a poster boy hero and tagged it as 'died in
> action,
> killed by enemy fire'. 
> 
> Although I'm not sure I'd use Drew's subject line of
> 'apparently fragged' and would have more likely
> chose 'may
> have been fragged', another weird thing that came
> out in
> Goff's papers was that Tillman had been publicly
> complaining about the incompetence of the military
> and that
> perhaps they should have never gone into Afghanistan
> or
> Iraq. 
> 
> In addition, the closing comment about what
> Tillman's last
> comments to a fellow soldier appear to be one more
> subtle
> slam against the Tillman family's atheism, which
> they have
> been criticized for with the military anyway. 
> 
> Goff's conclusions: gross incompetence plus military
> coverup because they needed a 'hero'. This implies
> murder.
> 
> Interesting. With both Goff's investigative report
> and this
> below combined, I wonder who would have murdered
> Tillman
> unless it was ordered from higher ups. But the truth
> is,
> with stress and combat and fatigue and unreasonable
> assignments, all of which point back to the fact
> that we
> shouldn't have been there to begin with and the
> whole
> campaign has been run horribly inefficiently, it is
> possible he was 'fragged'. Unless his fellow troops
> start
> talking, and they have been under continuous orders
> to NOT
> talk of this matter, we may never know. 
> 
> I am curious, Drew, what specifically did you read
> way back
> when for you to say that you 'suspected this all
> along'? 
> 
> Nan Garrett

> --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:

Nan, I just took the time to again read Goff's
reconstruction and actually this new report completely
alters the story.  Goff didn't have anything about 
1) an M-16 
2) to the forehead 
3) from less that 10 yards.  All that indeed is news
with entirely new implications! 

Goff talks about "less than 40 Meters" distance and
"high velocity projecticles" (unlike M-16), rocks and
SAW rounds (again not M-16 rounds). Here's his guess:

"The personnel aboard Baker?s Hummer saw Pat Tillman
and Brian O?Neal at less than 40 meters away with
their distinctive US battle-rattle silhouettes,"

AND 

"In the hail of fire that was punctuated by tracers
chattering through the lethal cone of high-velocity
projectiles, stones were thrown at high enough speed
to wound Pat in the wrist and leg.  It is also known
that SAW ammunition hit the body armor that covered
his chest and abdomen."

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062306_tillman_files4.shtml

Green is Truth!

Drew Johnson
California

> --- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I suspected this all along so I'm not in the least
> > surprised.  Saddened but not surprised.
> > 
> > 
> > Green is Truth!
> > 
> > Drew Johnson
> > 
> >
>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_re_us/tillman_friendly_fire
> > 
> > AP: New details on Tillman's death
> > 
> > By MARTHA MENDOZA, AP National Writer Thu Jul 26,
> 7:59
> > PM ET
> > 
> > SAN FRANCISCO - Army medical examiners were
> suspicious
> > about the close proximity of the three bullet
> holes in
> > Pat Tillman's forehead and tried without success
> to
> > get authorities to investigate whether the former
> NFL
> > player's death amounted to a crime, according to
> > documents obtained by The Associated Press.
> > 
> > "The medical evidence did not match up with the,
> with
> > the scenario as described," a doctor who examined
> > Tillman's body after he was killed on the
> battlefield
> > in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.
> > 
> > The doctors ? whose names were blacked out ? said
> that
> > the bullet holes were so close together that it
> > appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16
> fired
> > from a mere 10 yards or so away.
> > 
> > Ultimately, the Pentagon did conduct a criminal
> > investigation, and asked Tillman's comrades
> whether he
> > was disliked by his men and whether they had any
> > reason to believe he was deliberately killed. The
> > Pentagon eventually ruled that Tillman's death at
> the
> > hands of his comrades was a friendly-fire
> accident.
> > 
> > The medical examiners' suspicions were outlined in
> > 2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this
> week
> > by the Defense Department in response to a Freedom
> of
> > Information Act request.
> > 
> > Among other information contained in the
> documents:
> > 
> > ? In his last words moments before he was killed,
> > Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to
> > shut up and stop "sniveling."
> > 
> > ? Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory
> > e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay
> as
> > the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire
> > investigation that resulted in administrative, or
> > non-criminal, punishments.
> > 
> > ? The three-star general who kept the truth about
> > Tillman's death from his family and the public
> told
> > investigators some 70 times that he had a bad
> memory
> > and couldn't recall details of his actions.
> > 
> > ? No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at
> the
> > scene ? no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any
> > government equipment struck.
> > 
> > The Pentagon and the Bush administration have been
> > criticized in recent months for lying about the
> > circumstances of Tillman's death. The military
> > initially told the public and the Tillman family
> that
> > he had been killed by enemy fire. Only weeks later
> did
> > the Pentagon acknowledge he was gunned down by
> fellow
> > Rangers.
> > 
> > With questions lingering about how high in the
> Bush
> > administration the deception reached, Congress is
> > preparing for yet another hearing next week.
> > 
> > The Pentagon is separately preparing a new round
> of
> > punishments, including a stinging demotion of
> retired
> > Lt. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., 60, according to
> > military officials who spoke on condition of
> anonymity
> > because the punishments under consideration have
> not
> > been made public.
> > 
> > In more than four hours of questioning by the
> Pentagon
> > inspector general's office in December 2006,
> Kensinger
> > repeatedly contradicted other officers' testimony,
> and
> > sometimes his own. He said on some 70 occasions
> that
> > he did not recall something.
> > 
> > At one point, he said: "You've got me really
> scared
> > about my brain right now. I'm really having a
> > problem."
> > 
> > Tillman's mother, Mary Tillman, who has long
> suggested
> > that her son was deliberately killed by his
> comrades,
> > said she is still looking for answers and looks
> > forward to the congressional hearings next week.
> > 
> > "Nothing is going to bring Pat back. It's about
> > justice for Pat and justice for other soldiers.
> The
> > nation has been deceived," she said.
> > 
> > The documents show that a doctor who autopsied
> > Tillman's body was suspicious of the three gunshot
> > wounds to the forehead. The doctor said he took
> the
> > unusual step of calling the Army's Human Resources
> > Command and was rebuffed. He then asked an
> official at
> > the Army's Criminal Investigation Division if the
> CID
> > would consider opening a criminal case.
> > 
> > "He said he talked to his higher headquarters and
> they
> > had said no," the doctor testified.
> > 
> > Also according to the documents, investigators
> pressed
> > officers and soldiers on a question Mrs. Tillman
> has
> > been asking all along.
> > 
> > "Have you, at any time since this incident
> occurred
> > back on April 22, 2004, have you ever received any
> > information even rumor that Cpl. Tillman was
> killed by
> > anybody within his own unit intentionally?" an
> > investigator asked then-Capt. Richard Scott.
> > 
> > Scott, and others who were asked, said they were
> > certain the shooting was accidental.
> > 
> > Investigators also asked soldiers and commanders
> > whether Tillman was disliked, whether anyone was
> > jealous of his celebrity, or if he was considered
> > arrogant. They said Tillman was respected, admired
> and
> > well-liked.
> > 
> > The documents also shed new light on Tillman's
> last
> > moments.
> > 
> > It has been widely reported by the AP and others
> that
> > Spc. Bryan O'Neal, who was at Tillman's side as he
> was
> > killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving
> his
> > arms shouting "Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat
> > (expletive) Tillman, damn it!" again and again.
> > 
> > But the latest documents give a different account
> from
> > a chaplain who debriefed the entire unit days
> after
> > Tillman was killed.
> > 
> > The chaplain said that O'Neal told him he was
> hugging
> > the ground at Tillman's side, "crying out to God,
> help
> > us. And Tillman says to him, `Would you shut your
> > (expletive) mouth? God's not going to help you;
> you
> > need to do something for yourself, you sniveling
> ..."
> > 
> > ___
> > 
> > Associated Press reporters Scott Lindlaw in Las
> Vegas
> > and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to
> this
> > story.

___________________

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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Jul 27 12:01:57 2007
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:01:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tnharter has moved from ispwest to aceweb.
Message-ID: <46AA4125.1040901@aceweb.com>

It wasn't my idea, I assure you!

-- 
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Latest change: Pictures of the protest at Zoe Lofgren's we held while
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 27 12:58:31 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:58:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green says no to third parties
Message-ID: <46AA4E67.8060800@earthlink.net>


How do we respond to this?

"Forget Third Parties - It Ain't Gonna Happen:
Hijack The Democrats Instead"
     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/27/2797/

Gerry



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 27 13:28:07 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green says no to third parties
In-Reply-To: <46AA4E67.8060800@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <910142.40539.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I don't think there's a single answer.  Those of us
who feel called to work through the extreme
difficulties getting multiparty democracy going in the
US need to do our part, meanwhile people like this
fellow D.M.Green will have to work on reforming the
Dems from inside.  Unlike what Green says though I
don't see it as either/or but both/and.  Also I don't
see his counsel of despair re: third parties as being
helpful or truly seeing the full picture of what the
third party likely potentialities are.

As this article argues I don't think the GP will
suddenly surge forth and become a major party, winning
the WH and saving the day (although I'd be happy to
see that happen). Nevertheless if we work to get our
ducks in a row we can be a long-term significant
leading progressive minor party with representatives
at local, state and even the House similar to the
German, Irish, NZ, Canadian or Australian Greens.  

In baseball we'd call this playing 'small ball'. 
Working to get 'on base' any way we can and
consistently keeping the pressure up to advance our
peace agenda, rather than playing 'big ball' by
focusing on always trying to hit homeruns of winning
presidential races.  There's LOTS of good things to
commend playing 'small ball'.

My prediction: this upcoming election cycle will see a
multiplicity of third party and independent efforts,
not the least of which will be Unity08.  All these
efforts will on the one hand water down the effect of
the GP, but on the other it will take the pressure off
the GP that we feel to be America's savior (a role we
are not equipped for anyway) and generally will help
increase the positive effect of third parties.  This
will help breakup The Duopoly and introduce more
multiparty democracy to the US.  With more multiparty
democracy in America the GP will be in a great
position to be a leading minor party, yet will have
allies and competition from other third parties.  And
in the long run that will be a very good thing for
both America and for the Green Party.


Green is patient and persistent!

Drew


--- Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> How do we respond to this?
> 
> "Forget Third Parties - It Ain't Gonna Happen:
> Hijack The Democrats Instead"
>     
> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/27/2797/
> 
> Gerry
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 


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From MLause at cinci.rr.com  Fri Jul 27 13:49:20 2007
From: MLause at cinci.rr.com (Mark Lause)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:49:20 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green says no to third parties
In-Reply-To: <910142.40539.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c7d08f$9e9e6570$b5ff4347@downstairspc>

Although everything we do successfully will stimulate a reaction among the
Democrats, the very logic of working inside the Democratic Party means that
those people are going to try to draw into their project the people outside
the party.

This is a very old argument. Here's some useful background....

http://www.swans.com/library/art10/mlause01.html

Solidarity!
Mark L.











From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Jul 27 16:23:46 2007
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:23:46 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green says no to third parties
In-Reply-To: <46AA4E67.8060800@earthlink.net>
References: <46AA4E67.8060800@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <46AA7E82.8030104@aceweb.com>



Gerry Gras wrote:
> How do we respond to this?
> 
I think the highest elected office my grandfather ever got was Vice 
President of the American Dahlia Association. His lifetime ambition
was to breed up a flower beautiful enough to name after my grandmother.
Please notice I managed to get through the entire story above without
saying the name of a political party. Want to make it harder than that?

An alternative scenario is the guy is telling his wife "don't screw
around." I'm not married to him and I don't want to be.

Did you notice that Iowa recently went to the organizing format CA
has had for a long time? That only works if you have a certain amount
of faith in your Party that is independant of the next thing the 
politicians do.

The guy suggests "hijack the Dem Party." Ummm... Whose million dollars
does he suggest we do it with? He doesn't say. What Candidate? None 
named. He is selling snake oil.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Pictures of the protest at Zoe Lofgren's we held while
Cindy Shehan was being arrested in DC.


From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Sat Jul 28 09:22:26 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 28 Jul 2007 16:22:26 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] kitties on high alert
Message-ID: <20070728162226.8417.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


This morning there's this weird noise, sounds like
a swarm of bees, but lower pitched.  I figured a fan
is wearing out and checked all the computers,
but it's coming from outside.  The cats have noticed
it and they're searching all around and mewing,
high alert for kitties.  These cats were feral, and
they're very territorial, and have to know exactly
what's going on in their territory.

It's the "champ cars" of the San Jose Grand Prix.
I'm about four miles from the downtown race course.
Must be deafening down there.  It's bothering the
cats more than the July 4 fireworks do.

I haven't really enjoyed fireworks much since the
Gulf war started in 1990.  They're basically glorifying
warfare.  This month at the downtown fireworks they
played this awful John Philip Sousa martial music
and it just wrecked it.  And I'm having a hard time
with the city spending all this money glorifying
overpowered cars.


Cameron




From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 28 16:03:14 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:03:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Agenda for Sunday 5pm County Council meeting
In-Reply-To: <46A7E2A5.4090706@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <760955.29144.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear GPSCC Greens,

The County Council only got through item '*' on our
agenda this past Tuesday so we're meeting again to
move through some more business. Updated version of
Draft Bylaw re: Regional Rep Elections incorporating
Jim Stauffer's comments to be posted later tonight. 
If you have any addition items please send them ASAP
to the discussion list. 

Agenda County Council Meeting Sunday 8/29 San Jose

When: 5p, Tuesday July 24th, 2007
Where: Jim Doyle's House, SJ near Camden and 85
Please RSVP to Jim for directions: 408/269-3299

Preliminary Agenda:
-connecting-
0) Announcements
*) Bylaw for Regional Rep election method 
1) Tapestry in Talent tabling prep
a) gather tablers well in advance as well as tabling
materials.  
b) Ask several people to make a small number of phone
calls.
2) August campaigning for Daniel Brezenoff,
Congressional candidate training 
3) CCWG training.
4) September or October candidate training event.
5) Establish county party goals, including an outline
of approach


Green is Connection!

Drew


--- Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Gretings all,
> Last night, Tuesday night, Drew, Merriam, and I went
> over the
> proposed by-laws amendment once more but did not
> finish.
> 
> Other topics did not get covered.
> 
> So we will have another meeting this weekend.
> Since the San Jose Grand Prix takes place this
> coming weekend
> a number of activities have been scheduled which
> means we have to adapt
> to the time.
> 
> First of all we can start the meeting later.
> Secondly, it could be either Saturday or Sunday.
> 
> As long as we finish at or before 10 pm it is fine
> with me.
> 
> Jim Doyle
> 
> 


___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

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Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 28 16:16:33 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:16:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KAISHA - Jim's address for Agenda for Sunday 5pm
	County Council meeting
In-Reply-To: <46A7E2A5.4090706@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <465864.85881.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Kaisha, Jim's address is 1668 Nora Way, San Jose
mapquest: http://tinyurl.com/2w779d
......
Dear GPSCC Greens,

The County Council only got through item '*' on our
agenda this past Tuesday so we're meeting again to
move through some more business. Updated version of
Draft Bylaw re: Regional Rep Elections incorporating
Jim Stauffer's comments to be posted later tonight. 
If you have any addition items please send them ASAP
to the discussion list. 

Agenda County Council Meeting Sunday 8/29 San Jose

When: 5p, Tuesday July 24th, 2007
Where: Jim Doyle's House, SJ near Camden and 85
Please RSVP to Jim for directions: 408/269-3299

Preliminary Agenda:
-connecting-
0) Announcements
*) Bylaw for Regional Rep election method 
1) Tapestry in Talent tabling prep
a) gather tablers well in advance as well as tabling
materials.  
b) Ask several people to make a small number of phone
calls.
2) August campaigning for Daniel Brezenoff,
Congressional candidate training 
3) CCWG training.
4) September or October candidate training event.
5) Establish county party goals, including an outline
of approach


Green is Connection!

Drew


--- Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Gretings all,
> Last night, Tuesday night, Drew, Merriam, and I went
> over the
> proposed by-laws amendment once more but did not
> finish.
> 
> Other topics did not get covered.
> 
> So we will have another meeting this weekend.
> Since the San Jose Grand Prix takes place this
> coming weekend
> a number of activities have been scheduled which
> means we have to adapt
> to the time.
> 
> First of all we can start the meeting later.
> Secondly, it could be either Saturday or Sunday.
> 
> As long as we finish at or before 10 pm it is fine
> with me.
> 
> Jim Doyle
> 
> 


___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

"To the brave belong all things"
Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)


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From fredd at freeshell.org  Sat Jul 28 18:16:12 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:16:12 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  kitties on high alert
Message-ID: <46ABEA5C.3050006@freeshell.org>

Cameron, you should have seen the front page of the Chronicle today. A 
colored photo of at least 20 fire trucks parading in honor of the two 
Contra Costa firemen who lost their lives while in action.

They deserve great honors, but burning hundreds of gallons of gasoline 
seemed to be  actually dishonoring not only the communities that use the 
trucks, but the whole world. The fallen fireman's heroism could have 
been dramatized with greater dignity and with greater respect to the 
environment had the firemen solemnly walked in a procession to the ceremony.

It also ticks me off when military jet planes, such as the Blue Angels, 
  buzz over public events, including the All Star Baseball Game.  The 
pro- baseball owners love the free drama, and the military loves the 
advertising.  Neither respects the environment or the taxpayers.

Using the "wet blanket" approach,

Fred




This morning there's this weird noise, sounds like
a swarm of bees, but lower pitched.  I figured a fan
is wearing out and checked all the computers,
but it's coming from outside.  The cats have noticed
it and they're searching all around and mewing,
high alert for kitties.  These cats were feral, and
they're very territorial, and have to know exactly
what's going on in their territory.

It's the "champ cars" of the San Jose Grand Prix.
I'm about four miles from the downtown race course.
Must be deafening down there.  It's bothering the
cats more than the July 4 fireworks do.

I haven't really enjoyed fireworks much since the
Gulf war started in 1990.  They're basically glorifying
warfare.  This month at the downtown fireworks they
played this awful John Philip Sousa martial music
and it just wrecked it.  And I'm having a hard time
with the city spending all this money glorifying
overpowered cars.


Cameron


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 28 23:43:34 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] ALL CA voting machines FAILED official security
	test. Decertification possible
Message-ID: <945505.63917.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/28/VOTING.TMP&tsp=1
Most vote machines lose test to hackers

John Wildermuth, Chronicle Staff Writer

Saturday, July 28, 2007

Virtually all voting machines tested by researchers
trying to thwart security proved to be easy mark.
Chronicle photo by Penni Gladstone

State-sanctioned teams of computer hackers were able
to break through the security of virtually every model
of California's voting machines and change results or
take control of some of the systems' electronic
functions, according to a University of California
study released Friday.

The researchers "were able to bypass physical and
software security in every machine they tested,'' said
Secretary of State Debra Bowen, who authorized the
"top to bottom review" of every voting system
certified by the state.

Neither Bowen nor the investigators were willing to
say exactly how vulnerable California elections are to
computer hackers, especially because the team of
computer experts from the UC system had
top-of-the-line security information plus more time
and better access to the voting machines than would-be
vote thieves likely would have.

"All information available to the secretary of state
was made available to the testers,'' including
operating manuals, software and source codes usually
kept secret by the voting machine companies, said Matt
Bishop, UC Davis computer science professor who led
the "red team" hacking effort, said in his summary of
the results.

The review included voting equipment from every
company approved for use in the state, including
Sequoia, whose systems are used in Alameda, Napa and
Santa Clara counties; Hart InterCivic, used in San
Mateo and Sonoma Counties; and Diebold, used in Marin
County.

Election Systems and Software, which supplied
equipment to San Francisco, Contra Costa, Solano and
Los Angeles counties in last November's election,
missed the deadline for submitting the equipment,
Bowen said. While their equipment will be reviewed,
Bowen warned that she has "the legal authority to
impose any condition'' on its use.

Bowen said in a telephone news conference Friday that
the report is only one piece of information she will
use to decide which voting systems are secure enough
to use in next February's presidential primary
election.

If she is going to decertify any of the machines, she
must do it by Friday, six months before the Feb. 5
vote.

A day-long hearing in Sacramento on Monday will give
the UC investigators a chance to present their finding
and allow the various voting machine companies to
present a response. The hearing also will be open for
comments from the public.

The study was designed to discover vulnerabilities in
the technology of voting systems used in the state. It
did not deal with any physical security measures that
counties might take and "made no assumptions about
constraints on the attackers,'' Bishop said.

"The testers did not evaluate the likelihood of any
attack being feasible,'' he added.

Some county elections officials in the state were
among the most critical of the study, saying they
worry that they could be forced to junk millions of
dollars in voting machines if Bowen decertifies them
for the February election.

Letting the hackers have the source codes, operating
manuals and unlimited access to the voting machines
"is like giving a burglar the keys to your house,''
said Steve Weir, clerk-recorder of Contra Costa County
and head of the state Association of Clerks and
Election Officials.

The study also determined that many voting systems
have flaws that make it difficult for blind voters and
those with other disabilities to cast ballots.

During her election campaign last year, Bowen made it
clear she had little confidence in the security of
electronic voting machines and vowed to review their
use in the state.

"Voting systems are tools of our democracy,'' she said
Friday. "We want to ensure that the voting systems
used in the state are secure, accurate, reliable and
accessible to all. This (study result) is not a big
deal to me. It's a big deal for everyone in the
country.''

Vendors and other advocates of electronic voting
machines have suggested that because of Bowen's
well-publicized concerns, she has her thumb on the
scale when it comes to reviewing the systems. But the
secretary of state said she purposely avoided the
scientists doing the study.

Bowen admitted that she's "enough of a geek" that she
would have enjoyed working closely with the study, but
"I've stayed out of the way ... It's not my review,''
she said. "I didn't want (the researchers) to be
influenced by my questions.''

Weir said the UC study "is only a hologram of what
could be done technically without considering the
real-world mitigation,'' the locks, access cards and
other physical security measures typically used.

The study found "absolutely no evidence of any
malicious source code anywhere,'' he added. "They
found nothing that could cast doubt on the results of
elections.''

Bishop, however, said he was surprised by the weakness
of the security measures, both physical and
electronic, protecting the voting systems. His team of
hackers found ways to get into the systems not only
through the high-tech equipment in election
headquarters but also through the machines in the
polling places.

If the testers had had more time, they would have
found more flaws, he added.

"The vendors appeared to have designed systems that
were not high assurance (of security)," said Bishop, a
recognized expert on computer security. "The security
seems like it was added on.''

This article appeared on page A - 1 of the San
Francisco Chronicle

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From kaisha_marie at comcast.net  Sun Jul 29 10:02:03 2007
From: kaisha_marie at comcast.net (Kaisha Torres)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:02:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KAISHA - Jim's address for Agenda for Sunday
	5pmCounty Council meeting
In-Reply-To: <465864.85881.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <KCEEIJNPLAKBEGLBHEGMOEOICFAA.kaisha_marie@comcast.net>

Got it. 5pm Tonight. See you there.

-----Original Message-----
From: sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org
[mailto:sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org]On Behalf Of JamBoi
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:17 PM
To: scc
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KAISHA - Jim's address for Agenda for Sunday
5pmCounty Council meeting


Hey Kaisha, Jim's address is 1668 Nora Way, San Jose
mapquest: http://tinyurl.com/2w779d
......
Dear GPSCC Greens,

The County Council only got through item '*' on our
agenda this past Tuesday so we're meeting again to
move through some more business. Updated version of
Draft Bylaw re: Regional Rep Elections incorporating
Jim Stauffer's comments to be posted later tonight.
If you have any addition items please send them ASAP
to the discussion list.

Agenda County Council Meeting Sunday 8/29 San Jose

When: 5p, Tuesday July 24th, 2007
Where: Jim Doyle's House, SJ near Camden and 85
Please RSVP to Jim for directions: 408/269-3299

Preliminary Agenda:
-connecting-
0) Announcements
*) Bylaw for Regional Rep election method
1) Tapestry in Talent tabling prep
a) gather tablers well in advance as well as tabling
materials.
b) Ask several people to make a small number of phone
calls.
2) August campaigning for Daniel Brezenoff,
Congressional candidate training
3) CCWG training.
4) September or October candidate training event.
5) Establish county party goals, including an outline
of approach


Green is Connection!

Drew


--- Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Gretings all,
> Last night, Tuesday night, Drew, Merriam, and I went
> over the
> proposed by-laws amendment once more but did not
> finish.
>
> Other topics did not get covered.
>
> So we will have another meeting this weekend.
> Since the San Jose Grand Prix takes place this
> coming weekend
> a number of activities have been scheduled which
> means we have to adapt
> to the time.
>
> First of all we can start the meeting later.
> Secondly, it could be either Saturday or Sunday.
>
> As long as we finish at or before 10 pm it is fine
> with me.
>
> Jim Doyle
>
>


___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

"To the brave belong all things"
Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)


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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Sun Jul 29 10:27:07 2007
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 29 Jul 2007 17:27:07 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] ALL CA voting machines FAILED official
	security test. Decertification possible
Message-ID: <20070729172707.12147.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>



All of us in the trustworthy voting movement were jazzed to
see this story finally make it to the front page.

I'd also like to mention I've sat in on a discussion
with Debra Bowen and some of the leaders of our movement.
I believe she has a real engineer's understanding of
things like threat assessment and vulnerability characterization,
things I really wish I could find in the "blogosphere"
or streams like KPFA's.  She's good enough that she's
an actual threat to the national election theft conspiracy.

But before we "forward it to all your friends" let's be
aware of the significant bias in the story, as told here
and as it will be told across the corporate media if
it turns out to have "legs."



>Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:43:34 -0700 (PDT)
>From: JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com>
>To: usgp-media at gp-us.org, scc <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] ALL CA voting machines FAILED official security
>	test. Decertification possible

>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/28/VOTING.TMP&tsp=1
>Most vote machines lose test to hackers
...

>Neither Bowen nor the investigators were willing to
>say exactly how vulnerable California elections are to
>computer hackers,

Of course they weren't.  "How vulnerable?" is a question
with practically no meaning.  When someone asks you
a question you know is meaningless, the only *responsible*
answer is to point out the meaninglessness of the question
and the impossibility of answering it.  Bravo!


> especially because the team of
>computer experts from the UC system had
>top-of-the-line security information plus more time
>and better access to the voting machines than would-be
>vote thieves likely would have.

And there's the spin.  It's the reporter's opinion,
pulled straight out of his backside, and it's right there
in the same sentence as the statement from the experts,
so you'll think the experts said it.  And I'll bet
less than one percent of the people who read that article
noticed it.

A security expert would, instead, point out that the
most dangerous and best-equipped attackers *are* insiders.
In particular, the threat to balloting equipment which
concerns the experts most is hidden, intentional vulnerability
built into the systems *by their designers*.
"Would-be vote thieves" with no inside information is
a straw man concocted in the reporter's imagination.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt, it was due to
his lack of understanding of the problem.  But knowing
the way Bowen talks about these things, I'd be surprised
if she didn't point that out early in the interview, and
the reporter dropped it because it didn't fit his
intended spin.



>"All information available to the secretary of state
>was made available to the testers,'' including
>operating manuals, software and source codes usually
>kept secret by the voting machine companies, said Matt
>Bishop, UC Davis computer science professor who led
>the "red team" hacking effort, said in his summary of
>the results.

And that's more spin.  It's only a sentence fragment.
I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the sentence
untwists the spin a little bit and that's why it was cut.
All of that "inside" information and more is available to the
kind of attacker who is actually in a position to exploit
the vulnerabilities to actually steal an election.

>[...]

>"The testers did not evaluate the likelihood of any
>attack being feasible,'' he added.

Another quote included to support the reporter's spin,
not to make the story more complete or informative.
The implication is the attacks being considered are
"theoretical" or infeasible, and it's baloney.


I hope everyone who tries to "read between the lines"
in our biased news media gets a chance to read
my favorite essay on the subject,
"Journalistic Balance as Global Warming Bias"
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1978
The author uses anthropogenic climate change as his
example, but the same problem exists in the coverage
of pretty much every public issue.



Cameron




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 29 13:25:47 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:25:47 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items for Thu Aug 2
Message-ID: <46ACF7CB.1080704@sbcglobal.net>

This is a call for agenda items for next Thursday's meeting.

Thus far we have

revisit by-laws amendment

tabling  --  big long weekend September 1, 2, and 3
    need to set up a schedule for those who will be at the table
    need to determine if additional literature is needed
    need to prepare buttons -- who has the art work, who has the button 
machine

Jim Doyle



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Jul 30 19:24:55 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:24:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Senator Feinstein on Guantanamo
Message-ID: <46AE9D77.2020001@earthlink.net>


"Close Guantanamo Now"
by Senator Dianne Feinstein

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/30/2858/

Gerry



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Mon Jul 30 19:51:09 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:51:09 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items for Thu Aug 2
Message-ID: <cb4.171f03c5.33dffd9d@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 7/29/07 1:26:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net writes:

This is  a call for agenda items for next Thursday's meeting.

Thus far we  have

revisit by-laws amendment

tabling  --  big long  weekend September 1, 2, and 3
need to set up a schedule for  those who will be at the table
need to determine if  additional literature is needed
need to prepare buttons --  who has the art work, who has the button  
machine




I previously requested putting the issue of choosing delegates  to the next p
lenary (September 8-9th Riverside County) on the agenda.   Warner
 



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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 31 12:44:06 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:44:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green elected to Japan's national legislature
Message-ID: <285904.72827.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

{From Mike Feinstein....}

Dear GPUS Greens

The following great news comes to us from Satoko
Watanabe of Japan.

Within Japan, Watanabe is a twice-elected Green
Councilmember on the Prefecture level.
Internationally she has been a major player in
Asia-Pacific Green organizing, including
co-hosting the February 2005 Asia-Pacific Green
Network Meeting in Kyoto. Globally she is a
member of the Global Green Coordination, was a
plenary speaker at the Global Greens 2001 and is
part of the organizing committee for our next
Global Greens meeting in 2008.

As some of you know, the electoral system in
Japan on the national level is almost as
difficult for Greens to compete in as it is here
for us in the U.S.

Yet despite this, because of the presence of (and
opportunities afforde by) a multi-seat district
in Tokyo, the Japanese Greens have won their
first seat in the Diet - Japan's national
legislature
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diet_of_Japan)

The victory came in the House of Councillors, the
Diet's Upper House
(http://www.sangiin.go.jp/eng/index.htm).  Here
is her report:

==================

Mr. Ryuhei Kawada (http://ryuheikawada.jp/), the
steering committee member of Greens Japan and
Global Greens 2001 and Global Young Greens 2007
participant
(http://www.kawada.com/Stimme/Voice_gyg.htm), has
won the last seat of five of Tokyo electoral
district in the Upper House Election 2007.

We are so excited with this first step of
Greens!!!

Three years ago, we challenged the Upper House
Election, but could not win a seat. Because of
high hurdles of Japanese Election system, we had
to give up nominating us as a party this time. We
decided to concentrate our resources and energy
on Tokyo electoral district, which has five seats
and is quite influential to Japanese politics.

Ryuhei ran as an independent without any support
from parties or big organizations. In Japan it is
very difficult to win national elections without
those supports. Actually the four other winners
of the district are all from big parties.

The core members of the campaign office were
members of the Greens Japan and the Rainbow and
Greens Japan. They cooperated to make the
manifestation and to plan the campaign.

Ryuhei's campaign which was carried out by many
volunteers was so impressive that many media
covered it. Ryuhei's speech was very persuasive,
since he talked based on his own experiences as a
victim of HIV-infected blood product, fighting
against the government and the company. It often
moved the audience on the street to tears.

I was very happy to see many young people who are
believed to be veryindifferent to politics
responded to Ryuhei's appeal positively.

This is the very important first step of Greens
Japan. We will keep working together and
supporting  Ryuhei to achieve Green politics.

The LDP suffered from the huge defeat. Here are
the article and the editorial on the election.

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070730a1.html
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ed20070731a1.html

Best regards and peace,

Satoko Watanabe
Spokesperson
Rainbow and Greens Japan
Prefectural Councilor of Kagawa
16-14 Chuo-cho, Takamatsu, Kagawa 760-0007 JAPAN
Phone:+81-87-832-3676
Fax:+81-87-831-47
satoko.watanabe at nifty.com

=================

Articles about Ryuhei Kawada (in English)
http://home.kyodo.co.jp/modules/fstStory/index.php?storyid=328414
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070713a4.html
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200707230122.html
http://www.journeythroughjapan.org/people/people_detail.cfm?id_news=93523362

Statement to Global Young Greens meeting, January
2007 (in English)
http://www.kawada.com/Stimme/Voice_gyg.htm

Photos of his campaign
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skasuga/928837586/
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=kawadaryuhei

His Campaign Web site (in Japanese)
http://ryuheikawada.jp

Video Interviews (in Japanese)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kawada%20ryuhei&search=Search

___________________

JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 31 16:36:13 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:36:13 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling aug 5 - sf mime
Message-ID: <46AFC76D.7060309@sbcglobal.net>

The SF Mime Troupe has sent us an invitation to table at their
event on Sunday august 5-th.

The music begins at 4:30 pm and the show is at 5 pm.

It takes place in Mitchell Park in Palo Alto which is on Mitchell
close to Middlefield. Need a map?  
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Mitchell+Park,+palo+alto,+ca&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.28862,59.765625&ie=UTF8&ll=37.424486,-122.115762&spn=0.007651,0.014591&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1

Thus far Tian has committed to being there to table.
We need at least one more person.