[Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Nader Movie

Andrea Dorey andid at cagreens.org
Thu Mar 8 15:31:31 PST 2007


On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:45 AM, JamBoi wrote:

> I actually don't see much in the way of 'divisions' in the Green
> Parties.  All across the nation, Greens are united in wanting to
> support Green Parties, home grown, promoted from within candidates  
> that
> will support and grow the Green Parties to where we are a viable and
> vital opposition party.
>
> The reason I think its such a great idea is more because just
> connecting with other Greens, other leaning Greens

> (or even just
> Naderites whether they be Greens or no),

Do you refer to Cobb voters as Cobbites?
Or this epithet only for those you don't agree with?

> is super important and that is
> largely where our growth will come from.  It also gives us a sense  
> of a
> portion of our history.  Legacy is important.  One must understand
> where we've been in order to learn and move forward.
>
> Impeach for Peace!
>
> Drew
>
>
> --- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:
>
>> I think it could be very useful and it would give up a close-up view
>>
>> of how and what others in the party are thinking.  It might help us
>> overcome some of the divisions.  Who knows?
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2007, at 1:16 AM, JamBoi wrote:
>>
>>> Oooh!  I especially like your idea Andie of discussion groups for
>>> post-movie viewing dinner fellowship!
>>>
>>> Impeach for Peace!
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> --- Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I sent an email to camera12 enquiring about times;
>>>> I also called Ron Regalia, the office manager, at his office
>>>> 408-998-3022 x10;
>>>> and from that I obtained his cell phone and called that
>> 408-786-7323.
>>>> No contact yet, but left messages that asked if any times had been
>>>> set yet, and thanked them for showing the movie.
>>>>
>>>> We could start a flurry right now just by queries and by letting
>> them
>>>>
>>>> know that each of us is from a group that wants to go as a group.
>>>> So if you call the general number first to leave a message to that
>>>> effect first, you will give the impression that they are going to
>> be
>>>>
>>>> swamped!!!
>>>> Good luck, all.
>>>> And thanks for taking this up.
>>>>
>>>> Even is Nader isn't your favorite politician (for whatever
>> reason), I
>>>>
>>>> think this movie is going to be very interesting!
>>>> I'm in favor of setting a group date and time and then set another
>>>> for those who couldn't go to the first one.
>>>> Maybe a discussion group to compare notes over dinner?  Lunch?
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:14 PM, JamBoi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So it opens on Friday March 16th, and the Camera 12 downtown SJ
>> web
>>>>> site (details about the movie from their web site below) do not
>>>>> state a
>>>>> time yet.  Could someone call them and see if they have a time
>> set?
>>>>>
>>>>> As regards the 16th that might not be my first choice because we
>>>> have
>>>>> our weekly Friday night impeachment vigil happening at 5:30-7 and
>>>> on
>>>>> the 16th Christian Witness for Peace  will have a special service
>>>> over
>>>>> at Sunnyvale Presbyterian in honor of the third anniversary of
>> the
>>>>> martyrdom of Rachel Corrie who was killed in Gaza Palestine by an
>>>>> Israeli bulldozer driver.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Silicon Valley Impeachment Coalition's Weekly Impeachment
>>>>> Vigil
>>>>>         5:30-7P
>>>>>         Location: Castro and El Camino
>>>>>
>>>>>         Christian Witness for Peace
>>>>>   	Time: Friday, March 16, 2007   @  7:00 PM - 9:00 PM
>>>>>   	Location: Sunnyvale Presbyterian,
>>>>>         728 W. Fremont Ave, Sunnyvale CA 94087, Building 300
>>>>>         Phone: 408/739-1892
>>>>>
>>>>>         	
>>>>> Coming Soon
>>>>> An Unreasonable Man
>>>>> Opens 3/16/2007
>>>>> Coming to:	  	Camera 12 Downtown
>>>>>
>>>>> Director: Henriette Mantel and Steve Skrovan
>>>>>
>>>>> Synopsis: Henriette Mantel and Steve Skrovan trace the life of
>>>> career
>>>>> of famed consumer advocate Ralph Nader, from the General Motors
>>>> smear
>>>>> campaign that launched his fame in 1966, to the 2000 presidential
>>>>> election, where his independent candidacy was blamed by many for
>>>>> putting George W. Bush in the White House. Without ever holding
>>>> public
>>>>> office, Nader has built a legislative record that is the rival of
>>>> any
>>>>> contemporary president, having been responsible for such
>>>>> innovations as
>>>>> seat belts, airbags and product labeling. "Thoughtful and
>> smoothly
>>>>> edited, this is an absorbing chronicle of an extraordinary
>>>>> career."--Variety.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running Time: 122 Minutes
>>>>> (plus 8-10 minutes of trailers)
>>>>>
>>>>> Official Web Site:
>>>>> http://www.anunreasonableman.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> MPAA Rating: NR
>>>>>
>>>>> No Free Passes, But Discount Cards O.K.
>>>>> Reviews: Smooth and Balanced Profile
>>>>>
>>>>> By Sura Wood
>>>>>
>>>>> PARK CITY -- A heroic crusader to some and the spoiler who
>> betrayed
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> Democratic Party to others, Ralph Nader emerges as a dedicated,
>>>>> controversial and flawed figure in the documentary, "An
>>>> Unreasonable
>>>>> Man."
>>>>>
>>>>> Filmmakers Henriette Mantel, who once worked for Nader, and Steve
>>>>> Skrovan, smoothly integrate reams of material, dozens of
>> insightful
>>>>> interviews as well as archival news footage and, without the use
>> of
>>>> a
>>>>> narrator, present a coherent, balanced picture of a lightning rod
>>>> in
>>>>> the political arena.
>>>>>
>>>>> The film starts in 1966 when Nader is launched to prominence
>> after
>>>> he
>>>>> riles General Motors with his attacks on car safety. He accused
>> the
>>>>> automobile industry of selling "psychosexual dreamboats."
>>>>>
>>>>> Mantel and Skrovan showcase Nader's tireless, forceful advocacy
>> for
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> rights of the little guy and his own causes, which ranged from
>>>>> transportation safety to drug labeling and clean air. He fought
>> the
>>>>
>>>>> big
>>>>> boys and usually won. The list of organizations he founded or
>>>>> sponsored
>>>>> and the legislation he was instrumental in passing are
>> impressive.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are nagging questions about Nader's personal life -- by all
>>>>> accounts he doesn't have one -- and they aren't addressed till
>>>>> later in
>>>>> the film. Even then, little time is spent on the subject.
>>>> Colleagues
>>>>> say he's married to his work, driven by a sense of injustice and
>> a
>>>>> "never give up, never give in" ethos, a form of absolutism that
>> has
>>>>> made him difficult to work for and harder to leave. Former
>>>> employees
>>>>> say he was hostile to anyone who stopped working for him.
>>>>>
>>>>> The film primarily focuses on how and why Nader's bid for the
>>>>> presidency in 2000 antagonized even his most ardent admirers.
>> Many
>>>>> interviewed here are still angry.
>>>>>
>>>>> What makes this doc so successful is the willingness to present a
>>>> wide
>>>>> variety of opinions of Nader, a man who inspires intense emotions
>>>> on
>>>>> both sides of the aisle. Todd Gitlin, Dean of the Columbia
>>>> Journalism
>>>>> School, makes an impassioned case against Nader's misstep in 2000
>>>> and
>>>>> again in 2004. Of the former Nader's Raiders, some kept the
>> faith;
>>>>
>>>>> some
>>>>> are disillusioned, even bitter. There's a bit of levity, too.
>> James
>>>>> Fallows recalls Nader's attack on hot dogs, which were labeled
>>>>> "missiles of death.' Clips from a "Saturday Night Live" show that
>>>>> Nader
>>>>> hosted are, for lack of a better word, surprising.
>>>>>
>>>>> Editors Alexis Provost and Beth Gallagher cut back and forth
>>>> between
>>>>> the talking heads so deftly that you have the illusion that Nader
>>>> is
>>>>> answering his critics in real time in a very lively debate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Copyright 2007 Hollywood Reporter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughtful Chronicle of Extraordinary Man
>>>>>
>>>>> By Dennis Harvey
>>>>>
>>>>> Crusading consumer advocate Ralph Nader's extraordinary career --
>>>> and
>>>>> the recent Presidential campaigns that cast a pall over it -- are
>>>>> thoughtfully chronicled in "An Unreasonable Man." A basically
>>>> admiring
>>>>> if critical portrait, docu by Henriette Mantel and Stephen
>> Skrovan
>>>>> (strangely, both standup comics and TV comedy writer-producers)
>>>> finds
>>>>> more than enough absorbing material to hold interest through
>> nearly
>>>>> three-hour runtime. Straightforward PBS-style effort will be most
>>>> at
>>>>> home on the small screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hewing mostly to a chronological structure, pic at first jumps
>>>>> around a
>>>>> bit, glimpsing Nader's controversial last few years, skipping
>> back
>>>> to
>>>>> his first whistle-blowing triumphs in the early- to mid-1960s,
>> then
>>>>> rewinding all the way to his small-town Connecticut upbringing
>>>> under
>>>>> the wing of a father who imbued his children with the
>>>> problem-solving,
>>>>> community-minded assurance that "you can fight City Hall."
>>>> Resulting
>>>>> activist strain was visible in Ralph early on.
>>>>>
>>>>> After graduating from Harvard Law School, a friend's near-fatal
>> car
>>>>> wreck led him toward investigation of the U.S. auto industry.
>> Nader
>>>>> recognized that cost-cutting design flaws and lack of safety
>>>> equipment
>>>>> were the true culprit in many traffic accidents. When his book
>>>> "Unsafe
>>>>> at Any Speed" came out in 1965, it caused a public furor that had
>>>>> immediate effect, drastically improvingauto safety.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hoping to discredit him, General Motors had Nader spied on and
>>>>> harassed, even trying sexual entrapment. (Unfortunately for them,
>>>>> Nader
>>>>> is a workaholic whose love life remains a mystery -- if it exists
>>>> at
>>>>> all -- to even his closest allies.) A subsequent $425,000
>>>>> invasion-of-privacy settlement ironically provided him seed money
>>>> for
>>>>> even more sweeping investigations of corporate and governmental
>>>>> malfeasance.
>>>>>
>>>>> While Nader's accomplishments are many, his is a personality that
>>>>> turns
>>>>> away personal glory while tempting accusations of megalomania.
>> Many
>>>>> collegiate "Nader's Raiders" who cut their teeth under his
>>>> leadership
>>>>> then moved on to public office felt the sting of his criticism
>> when
>>>>> their attempts to stir positive change within the
>> compromise-driven
>>>>> cronyism of D.C. politics failed to meet his exacting standards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feeling the two-party system had turned into a one-sided
>> monopoly,
>>>>> Nader ran for president in 1996, 2000 and 2004. When Al Gore lost
>>>> to
>>>>> George W. Bush in the bitterly contested 2000 election, much rage
>>>> was
>>>>> directed toward Nader for "stealing" votes that might otherwise
>>>> have
>>>>> gone to the Demos. Four years later, when Nader ran again, few
>>>>> liberals
>>>>> still bought his notion that changing the overall party system
>>>> trumped
>>>>> choosing the lesser evil.
>>>>>
>>>>> While the overall portrait is of a man whose unbending sense of
>>>> moral
>>>>> imperative can be both admirable and exasperating, the filmmakers
>>>>> clearly hope Nader's rep and accomplishments can re-emerge from
>> the
>>>>> ill-will his political campaigns have generated. (Co-helmer
>> Mantel
>>>>> worked with Nader in the late 1970s.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mix of archival footage and contemporary interviews is given a
>>>> smooth
>>>>> editorial shape; other contribs are pro if undistinguished.
>>>>>
>>>>> Copyright 2006 Variety
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to go ASAP in this area.  Which means Friday, March 16th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOTE: Remember the anti war rally is March 17th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And for those who may want to inform others of where the movie
>>>>>> is showing, around the United States:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      http://www.anunreasonableman.com/calendar.cfm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am somewhat unhappy that it seems to be showing in not very
>>>>>> many places.  We should encourage as many as possible to see
>>>>>> it as soon as possible, so that might encourage others to go
>>>>>> see it and other theatres to show it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrea Dorey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're fools if we don't support this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we gang up on Nader and show that we progressives are
>> divided
>>>> so
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> badly, the bad guys need never fear us.  We'll never do
>> anything
>>>>>>> important or at the national level because we can't do
>> teamwork.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is our chance to show a united front.  Remember "divided
>> we
>>>>>> fall"?
>>>>>>> An old truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: "A. Wodin-Schwartz" <anunreasonableman.ca at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:anunreasonableman.ca at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: March 6, 2007 1:11:36 PM PST
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: "Andrea Dorey" <andid at cagreens.org
>>>>>> <mailto:andid at cagreens.org>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Cameron L. Spitzer" <cls at truffula.sj.ca.us
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cls at truffula.sj.ca.us>>, "Cameron Spitzer"
>>>> <cls at greens.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cls at greens.org>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Nader Movie & Book, California Appearances
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great news! It is playing in San Jose. It will open on March
>> 16
>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Camera 12 Cinemas <http://www.cameracinemas.com/index.shtml>,
>>>>>> located
>>>>>>>> at 201 South Second Street. Show times and advanced tickets
>> are
>>>>>>>> available online
>>>>>>>>
>> <http://www.cameracinemas.com/cgi-bin/movies.cgi?cmd=bt&f=c12>or
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> phone at 408-998-3300.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/18/07, Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org
>>>>>>>> <mailto:andid at cagreens.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     San Jose has a million people.  Why waste THREE visits to
>>>> San
>>>>>>>>     Francisco when one of those could be here in San Jose,
>> right
>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>     to the Sunnyvale/Palo Alto heart of Silicon Valley?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     One of the best gifts Nader could give the concept of
>> third
>>>>>>>>     parties is that of debunking the "spoiler" myth.  We have
>> a
>>>>>> young
>>>>>>>>     computer guru here in San Jose who gives the best analysis
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>     ever heard of why Nader did NOT spoil the votes in 2000.
>>>> I'm
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>     there are other voices out there who would concur with
>> such
>>>> an
>>>>>>>>     analysis for that election and others.  Maybe you folks
>>>> could
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>     together and design a strategy?  No one could slam dunk
>> the
>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>     (over and over again) better than Nader!  It would free
>> the
>>>>>> Green
>>>>>>>>     Party (and Nader himself)  from lingering animosity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Andrea Dorey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     (408) 306-1900 (cell for messages)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On Feb 7, 2007, at 5:30 PM, A. Wodin-Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Dear Ralph Nader supporters of California:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     You are invited to the California showings of the new
>> Ralph
>>>>>> Nader
>>>>>>>>>     documentary An Unreasonable Man, and to see Ralph Nader
>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>     the California tour for his new book The Seventeen
>>>>>> Traditions.
>>>>>>>>>     See schedule below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     An Unreasonable Man taps rare archival footage and more
>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>     forty on-camera interviews to paint a complex portrait of
>>>> one
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>     the most unique, important, and controversial political
>>>>>> figures
>>>>>>>>>     of the past fifty years. This two-hour film (which has
>>>>>> garnered
>>>>>>>>>     wide critical acclaim in recent weeks) uses Nader's
>>>> harshest
>>>>>>>>>     critics and most eloquent supporters to create a
>> compelling
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>     inspirational interpretation of Nader's life and of our
>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>>>     Movie information, a preview, and downloadable flyers are
>>>>>>>>>     available on the website www.anunreasonableman.com
>>>>>>>>>     <http://www.anunreasonableman.com/>. See below for how to
>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>     promote the film.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     The Seventeen Traditions
>>>>>> <http://www.seventeentraditions.com/> is
>>>>>>>>>     an unexpected and extraordinary book by Ralph Nader that
>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>>     back to the earliest days of his life, to his serene and
>>>>>>>>>     enriching childhood in bucolic Winsted, Connecticut. From
>>>>>>>>>     listening to learning, from patriotism to argument, Nader
>>>>>>>>>     revisits seventeen key traditions he absorbed from his
>>>>>> parents,
>>>>>>>>>     his siblings, and the people in his community, and draws
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>     them inspiring lessons for today's society.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     An Unreasonable Man makes its California debut on Friday,
>>>>>>>>>     February 9 at Los Angeles' Nuart Theater located at 11272
>>>>>> Santa
>>>>>>>>>     Monica Blvd. February 9 to February 16, there will be
>> three
>>>>>>>>>     showings daily: 4:30, 7:15, and 9:55, with a 1:45 pm
>>>> weekend
>>>>>>>>>     matinee. On Friday and Saturday, Ralph Nader will do Q&A
>>>>>>>>>     following the 4:30 and 7:15 showings, and introduce the
>>>> 9:55
>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>     on Friday only. Tickets are available at the Landmark
>> Nuart
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> <http://www.landmarktheatres.com/market/LosAngeles/NuartTheatre.htm>,
>>>>>>>>>     or by phone at 310-281-8223.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     After Los Angeles, An Unreasonable Man has the following
>>>>>> premiere
>>>>>>>>>     dates:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         * Pasadena, February 16 at Laemmle's One Colorado
>>>>>>>>>           <http://www.laemmle.com/viewtheatre.php?thid=9>.
>>>>>>>>>         * San Francisco, March 9 at the Landmark Lumiere
>>>> Theater
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.landmarktheatres.com/market/SanFrancisco/
>>>>> LumiereTheatre.htm>.
>>>>>>>>>         * Berkeley, March 9 at the Landmark Shattuck
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.landmarktheatres.com/market/SanFranciscoEastBay/
>>>>> ShattuckCinemas.htm>.
>>>>>>>>>         * Santa Cruz, March 16 at the Nickelodeon Theater
>>>>>>>>>           <http://www.thenick.com/>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     The book tour for The Seventeen Traditions will make the
>>>>>>>>>     following stops:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         * Thursday, February 8 at 7 pm: Dutton's Brentwood
>>>>>> Bookstore
>>>>>>>>>           <http://www.duttonsbrentwood.com/> in Los Angeles.
>>>>>>>>>         * Saturday, February 10 at 2 pm: Barnes & Noble
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> <http://storelocator.barnesandnoble.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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>>>>>>>>>           in Encino.
>>>>>>>>>         * Thursday, February 15 at 12 pm: Commonwealth Club
>>>>>>>>>           <http://www.commonwealthclub.org/index.php> in San
>>>>>> Francisco.
>>>>>>>>>         * Thursday, February 15 at 7 pm: Dominican University
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> <http://www.dominican.edu/events/lectures_ics/2007-aacmpy-1585586/
>>>>> index.html>
>>>>>>>>>           in San Rafael.
>>>>>>>>>         * Friday, February 16 at 7 pm: Books Inc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.booksinc.net/NASApp/store/IndexJsp?
>>>>> page=266537&s=storeinfo&>.
>>>>>>>>>           at 601 Van Ness Ave. in San Francisco.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     How to help:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Promoting the film is a major grassroots effort and we
>> need
>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>     committed volunteers to make it successful by:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     * Phone banking potential movie-goers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     * Selling tickets to your friends
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     * Flyering/postering campuses/communities
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Can you help us out?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Contact Aaron Wodin-Schwartz at
>>>> Aaron.WodinSchwartz at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:Aaron.WodinSchwartz at gmail.com>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     PLEASE Forward Widely
>
>
>
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>
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>
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