From tnharter at ispwest.com  Tue May  1 00:04:31 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 00:04:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GreenLine: Greens Boast most Green Office
	Holders'Ever'
In-Reply-To: <342610.21728.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <342610.21728.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4636E67F.1050804@ispwest.com>

JamBoi wrote:

>GreenLine  April 2007
>
>The Free Monthly Newsletter of the Green Party of the U.S.
>
>Most Green Officeholders 'Ever' - 
>Thanks to Recent Victories in Wisconsin and Illinois!
>
>The Green Party now has 230 officeholders, the most ever thanks to
>elections this month in Wisconsin and Illinois. In Wisconsin, seven out
>of fourteen Green Party candidates won election on April 3, bringing
>the total of Wisconsin Green elected officials to twenty-two. Pete
>Karas, endorsed by the Kenosha/Racine Green Party, won re-election in a
>tight race for alderperson in District 9 of the Racine Common Council.
>
(snip)

I never thought I'd see the day when a populist movement
was being led by the progressives of the midwest. Nice change...

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: "IMPEACH NOW!" picture with "me" and arrow.



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May  1 00:24:53 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 00:24:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GreenLine: Greens Boast most Green Office
	Holders'Ever'
In-Reply-To: <4636E67F.1050804@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <497999.52645.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Wisconsonite Fred might have something to say about midwest
progressives leading the way. :-)

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:

> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> >GreenLine  April 2007
> >
> >The Free Monthly Newsletter of the Green Party of the U.S.
> >
> >Most Green Officeholders 'Ever' - 
> >Thanks to Recent Victories in Wisconsin and Illinois!
> >
> >The Green Party now has 230 officeholders, the most ever thanks to
> >elections this month in Wisconsin and Illinois. In Wisconsin, seven
> out
> >of fourteen Green Party candidates won election on April 3, bringing
> >the total of Wisconsin Green elected officials to twenty-two. Pete
> >Karas, endorsed by the Kenosha/Racine Green Party, won re-election
> in a
> >tight race for alderperson in District 9 of the Racine Common
> Council.
> >
> (snip)
> 
> I never thought I'd see the day when a populist movement
> was being led by the progressives of the midwest. Nice change...
> 
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: "IMPEACH NOW!" picture with "me" and arrow.
> 
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue May  1 08:02:52 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 08:02:52 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GreenLine: Greens Boast most Green
	Office	Holders'Ever'
Message-ID: <4637569C.3000108@freeshell.org>

Yes. The Progressive Party of the first half of the 20th Century was 
founded in Wisconsin. Bob Lafollette, was a renowned U,S. Senator.  His 
son, Bob, Jr. became a U.S, senator and his other son, Phillip, was a 
Progressive governor of Wisconsin.

Also, in the late 19th Century and up, until about 1950, most of 
Milwaukee's mayors were socialists, the socialist, Frank Zeidler, being 
the most respected of all Milwaukee mayors.

Don't forget that progressive spot called Madison.

 From Fred the Red

Wisconsonite Fred might have something to say about midwest
progressives leading the way. :-)

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:

> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> >GreenLine  April 2007
> >
> >The Free Monthly Newsletter of the Green Party of the U.S.
> >
> >Most Green Officeholders 'Ever' - 
> >Thanks to Recent Victories in Wisconsin and Illinois!
> >
> >The Green Party now has 230 officeholders, the most ever thanks to
> >elections this month in Wisconsin and Illinois. In Wisconsin, seven
> out
> >of fourteen Green Party candidates won election on April 3, bringing
> >the total of Wisconsin Green elected officials to twenty-two. Pete
> >Karas, endorsed by the Kenosha/Racine Green Party, won re-election
> in a
> >tight race for alderperson in District 9 of the Racine Common
> Council.
> >
> (snip)
> 
> I never thought I'd see the day when a populist movement
> was being led by the progressives of the midwest. Nice change...
> 
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: "IMPEACH NOW!" picture with "me" and arrow.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May  1 08:58:01 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 08:58:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] San Francisco Spells Out Message of Impeachment
Message-ID: <612176.21492.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=4458

San Francisco Spells Out Message of Impeachment 
by Ben Malley? Apr. 30? 2007 

Thousands gathered at Ocean Beach Saturday morning to spell out IMPEACH
NOW! in the sand with their bodies. The event was coordinated with
other impeachment events nationwide on April 28, and included a Code
Pink march to Nancy Pelosi?s house.

Building on the momentum from the first ?Beach Impeach? event on
January 7 organizers expected a turnout of between 1,500 and 2,000. The
larger crowd allowed organizers to add the NOW to the original Jan. 7
message. According to event organizer Brad Newsham, the message
stretched 730 feet across and 100 feet high.

At 11:00 a.m. a helicopter flew over to take aerial photographs. And
after 15 minutes Newsham gave the signal, waving a green flag informing
protesters to transform their message into PEACE NOW! While another
organizer implored passersby to ?lie down on the beach and spell out
what needs to happen.? 

The women of Code Pink, dressed in their colors, occupied the C. While
a group dressed in orange biohazard suits made up the exclamation mark.

The entire event took only about 90 minutes and the mood was festive.
After the photography was complete protesters danced to the rhythms of
a band of marimba players and free food was available. A number of
television news outlets were on hand for the display.

The impeachment movement has been growing with every controversy the
Bush administration becomes embroiled in. With every revelation more
cracks begin to show, most recently the controversy surrounding the
firings of eight U.S. Attorneys.

?If you look at the polls, more and more people across the country are
calling for impeachment,? Newsham said. According to an October 2006
Newsweek poll largely ignored by the press, 28 percent said impeachment
was a ?top priority? and 23 percent said it was a ?lower priority.?

Rep. Dennis Kucinich took an important first step in bringing
impeachment more into mainstream political discourse. He submitted his
three articles of impeachment (H.R. 333) against Dick Cheney last week.
He accuses the vice president of "high crimes and misdemeanors" for
violating the constitution and undermining national security by lying
to the American people about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and an
al-Qaeda connection to justify a war.

Rep. John Murtha was the latest Democrat to mention impeachment when he
said on the CBS show Face the Nation, ?there?s four ways to influence a
president. And one of them?s impeachment.? While this statement doesn?t
mean that Democrats are going to jump on the Kucinich bandwagon, it
also means that clearly impeachment isn?t ?off the table? as Pelosi
said in January.

The Beach Impeach idea is a brilliant one. In an age where many cite
citizen apathy as a major political problem, what better way to get
people involved then by providing a protest option that is in essence,
going to the beach on a Saturday and hanging out with people who share
your political beliefs.

___________________

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May  1 10:45:09 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 10:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Emergency rally to end the war tomorrow at
	Winchester & Stevens Cr. 5PM
Message-ID: <965964.30737.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Emergency rally to end the war tomorrow in Santa Clara
Congress just passed a plan to start bringing our troops home this
year. President Bush is going to veto it. We're having rallies all
around the country on Wednesday?when the veto is expected?to oppose the
veto and urge Congress to stand firm.1 Can you join us in Santa Clara?


Join Us at a Rally

Dear MoveOn member,
Congress is about to send an important bill to the White House?it would
require the president to start bringing our troops home from Iraq this
year. President Bush has said repeatedly he's going to veto it. It's
outrageous. Most Americans support a timeline and he's standing in the
way.

This will be a pivotal moment on Iraq?it's not clear what Congress or
the president will do after the veto. We need to make clear that
President Bush is really vetoing the will of the American people. And
we need to tell Congress to hold firm.

There are already more than 200 rallies planned and it's really
important to turn out in big numbers to get our message across. There
is one right near you in Santa Clara. Can you make it tomorrow?

Here are the details:
corner of Stevens Creek Blvd & Winchester Blvd. 
Wednesday, May 2 2007, 5:00 PM 
RSVP:
http://pol.moveon.org/event/vetorally/37144?id=10263-1545797-74ypcO&t=4

If this event doesn't work for you, click below to search for another
rally near you:

http://pol.moveon.org/event/vetorally/?search_zip=95129&id=10263-1545797-74ypcO&t=5

Four years ago today, President Bush declared "Mission Accomplished" in
Iraq. Now there is a plan on the table that will finally start bringing
our troops home?but the president is going to veto it. By doing so,
he's vetoing the will of the people.

Congress has two options on how to respond?they can either cave to the
president's pressure or stand strong and demand accountability from him
on Iraq. Members of Congress are going to be gauging public reaction in
the next few days to decide which path they'll follow.

There's also a fun twist to these rallies: We'll be using noisemakers
to demonstrate that President Bush and Congress cannot ignore us any
longer?our voices must be heard.

As Senator Feingold recently wrote:

By carrying out his veto threat, the President will mark yet another
sad day in the history of this war. But that veto should be seen as a
rallying cry for the vast majority of Americans who believe that the
time has come to again stand up, and stand together, with one voice,
and demand a policy that makes sense?one that puts our country and our
national security first. A policy that makes America safer, not
weaker.2

Now is the time to take a strong stand against the president's reckless
policy in Iraq. Together, we'll show the media and Congress that we
won't stand for another blank check for the president on the war. Can
you join us?

Click below to search for a rally near you.

http://pol.moveon.org/event/vetorally/?search_zip=95129&id=10263-1545797-74ypcO&t=6

Thanks for all you do,

?Nita, Anna, Matt, Justin and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
  Tuesday, May 1st, 2007

Sources

1. "GOP's Base Helps Keep Unity on Iraq," Washington Post, April 30,
2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2543&id=10263-1545797-74ypcO&t=7

2. An Important Step to Ending the War in Iraq, Progressive Patriots
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2538&id=10263-1545797-74ypcO&t=8
 
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue May  1 11:36:12 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 11:36:12 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] San Francisco Spells Out Message of Impeachment
Message-ID: <4637889C.5040801@freeshell.org>

The Green Parties on the Peninsula were well represented in the San 
Francisco BeachImpeach last Saturday. We, Dana, Gerry, Tian, Carol, Roy 
Nordblom and Mike Z.were there, some in our Green T-shirts, as were a 
number of San Mateo County Greens.

We also participated in the Code Pink - plus - demonstration outside 
Speaker Peloci's home on "Green Bills($$$)Hill.

At the beach and on $$$ Hill, we handed out hundreds of "Contact 
Congress to Impeach Cheney" slips with key House member's addresses and 
phone numbers to call to  urge support for Kucinich's H.B. 333 Articles 
of Impeachment of Dick Cheney.

My guess is that were were about 1,400 BeachImpeach participants, and
at the Pelosi site, 200.

There was also a dozen or more peaceful policemen relaxing at Peolosi'
corner.

'Twas one of the most enjoyable Saturdays enjoyed during the past decade.

We only hope it did some good

Fred



My guess was that there were about 1,400 BeachImpeach participants, and 
at Peolosi's place, about 200

Despite the lack of media coverage, there was much enthusiasm and fun 
exhibited.  Moral seemed high

'Twas one of the most enjoyable Saturdays enjoyed during the past decade.

Let's hope it did some good.

Fred

http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=4458

San Francisco Spells Out Message of Impeachment
by Ben Malley? Apr. 30? 2007

Thousands gathered at Ocean Beach Saturday morning to spell out IMPEACH
NOW! in the sand with their bodies. The event was coordinated with
other impeachment events nationwide on April 28, and included a Code
Pink march to Nancy Pelosi?s house.

Building on the momentum from the first ?Beach Impeach? event on
January 7 organizers expected a turnout of between 1,500 and 2,000. The
larger crowd allowed organizers to add the NOW to the original Jan. 7
message. According to event organizer Brad Newsham, the message
stretched 730 feet across and 100 feet high.

At 11:00 a.m. a helicopter flew over to take aerial photographs. And
after 15 minutes Newsham gave the signal, waving a green flag informing
protesters to transform their message into PEACE NOW! While another
organizer implored passersby to ?lie down on the beach and spell out
what needs to happen.?

The women of Code Pink, dressed in their colors, occupied the C. While
a group dressed in orange biohazard suits made up the exclamation mark.

The entire event took only about 90 minutes and the mood was festive.
After the photography was complete protesters danced to the rhythms of
a band of marimba players and free food was available. A number of
television news outlets were on hand for the display.

The impeachment movement has been growing with every controversy the
Bush administration becomes embroiled in. With every revelation more
cracks begin to show, most recently the controversy surrounding the
firings of eight U.S. Attorneys.

?If you look at the polls, more and more people across the country are
calling for impeachment,? Newsham said. According to an October 2006
Newsweek poll largely ignored by the press, 28 percent said impeachment
was a ?top priority? and 23 percent said it was a ?lower priority.?

Rep. Dennis Kucinich took an important first step in bringing
impeachment more into mainstream political discourse. He submitted his
three articles of impeachment (H.R. 333) against Dick Cheney last week.
He accuses the vice president of "high crimes and misdemeanors" for
violating the constitution and undermining national security by lying
to the American people about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and an
al-Qaeda connection to justify a war.

Rep. John Murtha was the latest Democrat to mention impeachment when he
said on the CBS show Face the Nation, ?there?s four ways to influence a
president. And one of them?s impeachment.? While this statement doesn?t
mean that Democrats are going to jump on the Kucinich bandwagon, it
also means that clearly impeachment isn?t ?off the table? as Pelosi
said in January.

The Beach Impeach idea is a brilliant one. In an age where many cite
citizen apathy as a major political problem, what better way to get
people involved then by providing a protest option that is in essence,
going to the beach on a Saturday and hanging out with people who share
your political beliefs.

___________________

JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

"To the brave belong all things"
Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Tue May  1 14:57:15 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 14:57:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mountain View Solar Power
Message-ID: <4637B7BB.8030800@ispwest.com>

Bruce Karney, whom you may remember was Mountain View's first Green 
candidate for City Council,
is doing something again. His latest project is selling solar systems 
through a buying cooperative,
and as you can see from his email following, the project is going quite 
well.

Tian

 >The sign-up period for residential customers ended yesterday, and the 
results are outstanding:
 >113 households and 345 kW of solar.  The results are approximately 
double the project's
 >original goal of getting enough households signed up to produce 175 kW.
 >
 >In addition, as a result of the project the amount of residential 
solar panels installed in
 >Mountain View will more than double.
 >
 >By way of comparison, this is about 3/4 the size of Microsoft's solar 
project and 22% as much
 >as Google is bringing on line.
 >
 >The aggregate savings to participants compared to "standard prices" is 
$690,000.
 >The reduction in carbon dioxide emissions over the life of the panels 
will be about 5,300 tons,
 >which is about the same as taking 1000 automobiles off the road for a 
year.
 > >At Eric Anderson's request, I will be making a presentation about 
the results at the EPC
 >meeting tomorrow at approximately 7:30 pm.  I hope you will be able to 
attend or tune into
 >the broadcast on KMVT.
 >
 >The sign-up period for commercial, governmental, and non-profit 
customers extends to May 31.
 >
 >Cheers,
 >Bruce
 >blogging at http://mvsolar.blogspot.com <http://mvsolar.blogspot.com/>

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May  2 00:44:30 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 00:44:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Dell to offer Ubuntu Linux on PCs, laptops
Message-ID: <992510.25679.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9018303&intsrc=news_ts_head

Dell to offer Ubuntu Linux on PCs, laptops
Pricing, configurations and support options will be unveiled later
Todd R. Weiss  

May 01, 2007 (Computerworld) -- Only 10 weeks after asking customers
what products they'd like to see, Dell Inc. today announced that its
upcoming Linux desktop PCs and laptops will be preloaded with Ubuntu
Linux. They are slated to be avilable by the end of this month.

In postings on Dell's IdeaStorm and Dell2Dell Web sites today, the
company said it moved quickly to offer the Linux-based hardware because
of customer interest. In February, Dell had set up an "IdeaStorm" Web
site to get feedback from customers about what products they wanted. In
late March, after hearing from more than 100,000 users who filled out
surveys on Linux preferences, Dell said it would start preloading Linux
on some of its laptops and desktop PCs.

"The reason we're going with Ubuntu is because by far and away Ubuntu
was the most requested distribution" by users who registered their
preferences on the IdeaStorm site, said Jeremy Bolen, a Dell spokesman.
"It was overwhelming, the response we got to the survey."

Bolen said that the models, configurations and prices of the
Ubuntu-loaded hardware have not been announced. They will run Version
7.04 of Ubuntu Linux and will be available through a dedicated Linux
Web page on the Dell.com site where buyers will be able to configure
and price their machines.

Asked if the new machines will be cheaper than comparable machines
loaded with Microsoft Corp.'s Windows Vista operating system, Bolen
said, "I don't have a solid answer for that."

He also left open the possibility that other Linux distributions such
as Red Hat Inc. or Novell Inc.'s SUSE Linux could later be added to
Dell's Linux line. The company will "continue to take feedback from our
customers and implement meaningful offerings that meet their needs,"
Bolen said.

Details are also being worked out regarding suport for the new Ubuntu
Linux-equipped machines, he said. Hardware support will be provided by
Dell, but operating system support could be provided through the
open-source Ubuntu and Linux communities -- which survey respondents
said they preferred -- or through a paid support contract with
Canonical Ltd., the Isle of Man-based company that is the commercial
sponsor of Ubuntu Linux.

"Certainly, the option is open for paid support," Bolen said. "We're
still kind of working through the mechanics of that."

Bolen said the overwhelming response from Linux enthusiasts inspired
Dell to move quickly. "In the past five years, there's been a lot of
development in Linux to make it a viable option for our customers,
especially our enthusiasts," he said. "The audience we're really going
after ... at least initially is the Linux enthusiast."

Jane Silber, director of operations at Canonical, called the
Dell-Ubuntu partnership "a very important milestone" for her company.
"It's an important step in broadening access to Linux and Ubuntu," she
said.

The partnership with Dell is Canonical/Ubuntu's first reseller deal
with a top-tier system maker in the U.S., she said. Canonical does have
a partnership with Sun Microsystems Inc., but that only includes
precertifying some Sun servers for use with Ubuntu Linux. Sun does not
offer hardware preloaded with Ubuntu Linux.

Canonical and Ubuntu do have existing preloading deals in other markets
around the world, including a relationship with HCL Infosystems Ltd. in
Noida, India, and the deal with Dell could "be the first of a string of
relationships," Silber said. "The traction and momentum that Ubuntu has
been building over the last few years makes Dell and Canonical feel
that this is the right [time] to do this.

In the last few months, Dell CEO and chairman Michael Dell has himself
gotten on the Ubuntu bandwagon. He recently revealed that he's been
using Ubuntu Linux 7.04 on one of his home Dell Precision M90 laptops.
His two other home computers, a travel laptop and his work PC all run
Windows Vista Ultimate, according to the company.

Analysts said the deal could be good for both companies, even though
previous attempts at launching a Linux-on-the-desktop movement never
gained much steam. An earlier attempt by Dell to sell laptops with Red
Hat Linux around 2001 didn't get much traction in the marketplace.

"If Dell wants to make a splash with this announcement, Ubuntu is
definitely the right pick," said Tony Iams, an analyst at Rye Brook,
N.Y.-based Ideas International Inc. "The market is definitely enamored
with [Ubuntu]. If they're looking to open up a new market, Ubuntu is
definitely the one to go with."

What's not certain, however, is how this latest Linux-loaded computer
offering will pan out with consumers, Iams said. "You always have to be
a little careful" with online marketing surveys such as the one
conducted by Dell, he said. "But on the other hand, what is the real
risk here? Customers always appreciate choice." 

As its sales figures have decreased in recent years, Dell has said it
would try new directions, Iams said. "As a small step to take, this is
perfectly rational," he said.

Gordon Haff, an analyst at Illuminata Inc. in Nashua, N.H., said Dell
has been forced to listen to consumers because its old ways of doing
business haven't been working recently. "Dell was being the Henry Ford
of the computer industry in the sense that you could have it any way
you wanted it as long as it was [Dell's] way," Haff said. "They didn't
want to do AMD processors, they didn't want to do retail [sales], and
they didn't want to do Linux because all of these things were difficult
for them to do. I think that Dell has realized that it's not in the
position where it can give up all of these slices of market share, even
if they're not [individually] going to be huge."

"Dell was kind of locking themselves out of the market," Haff said. "I
think it was starting to hurt them."

Stephen O'Grady, an analyst at RedMonk in Denver, called today's Ubuntu
announcement "a very interesting decision" that breaks with past
attempts at marketing Linux machines that only offered Red Hat or SUSE
Linux.

"Ubuntu has proved that there is a substantial appetite for Ubuntu on
the desktop around the world, and it was only a matter of time until
some big manufacturer took advantage of this," O'Grady said. "If
basically the knock on Linux on the desktop has been that no major
manufacturers support it, then this is the first major chink in that
argument. I wouldn't be surprised if other major manufacturers try
this, too."

Another analyst, Perry Donham at Boston-based Aberdeen Group Inc., said
the deal is potentially bigger for Ubuntu than it is for Dell. "I don't
think this is a huge win for Dell," he said. "It's going to be a small
part of their market. But it's a great win for Ubuntu and for Linux in
general."

For consumers who have heard of Linux, they'll see that Dell is
offering it on machines and is backing it, and that may encourage them
to seriously consider using the operating system for the first time,
Donham said. "It can only be good for Ubuntu. Maybe people will want to
try it out with the big hand of Dell behind their backs."

Such a scenario could help the open-source community work even harder
at solving some of the remaining problems that keep Linux from being a
first choice in the consumer marketplace, such as continuing
incompatibilities and difficulties with running popular applications
like Apple Inc.'s iTunes music software, Donham said. "It will also
sharpen the focus for [creating needed] drivers and support for
drivers," he said.

"Ubuntu is fabulously popular right now," Donham said. "They're really
riding that wave. Ubuntu is the easiest Linux I've come across to set
up and maintain. It kind of just launches and goes."

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From eameece at california.com  Wed May  2 20:47:01 2007
From: eameece at california.com (E. Alan Meece)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 20:47:01 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Emergency rally to end the war tomorrow at
	Winchester & Stevens Cr. 5PM
References: <965964.30737.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46395B35.726F@california.com>

A rally is good; I hope Mone on realizes soon that what is needed to
tell congress is not to send any funding bill back, now that Bush has
vetoed the funds for his own war.

Eric the Green

JamBoi wrote:
> 
> Emergency rally to end the war tomorrow in Santa Clara
> Congress just passed a plan to start bringing our troops home this
> year. President Bush is going to veto it. We're having rallies all
> around the country on Wednesday?when the veto is expected?to oppose the
> veto and urge Congress to stand firm.1 Can you join us in Santa Clara?
> 
> Join Us at a Rally
> 
> Dear MoveOn member,
> Congress is about to send an important bill to the White House?it would
> require the president to start bringing our troops home from Iraq this
> year. President Bush has said repeatedly he's going to veto it. It's
> outrageous. Most Americans support a timeline and he's standing in the
> way.
> 
> This will be a pivotal moment on Iraq?it's not clear what Congress or
> the president will do after the veto. We need to make clear that
> President Bush is really vetoing the will of the American people. And
> we need to tell Congress to hold firm.
> 
> There are already more than 200 rallies planned and it's really
> important to turn out in big numbers to get our message across. There
> is one right near you in Santa Clara. Can you make it tomorrow?
> 
> Here are the details:
> corner of Stevens Creek Blvd & Winchester Blvd.
> Wednesday, May 2 2007, 5:00 PM
> RSVP:


From eameece at california.com  Wed May  2 21:51:16 2007
From: eameece at california.com (E. Alan Meece)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 21:51:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Emergency rally to end the war tomorrow at
	Winchester & Stevens Cr. 5PM
References: <965964.30737.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<46395B35.726F@california.com>
Message-ID: <46396A44.1527@california.com>

E. Alan Meece wrote:
> 
> A rally is good; I hope Mone on realizes soon that what is needed to
> tell congress is not to send any funding bill back, now that Bush has
> vetoed the funds for his own war.

Or I guess I should say, 
I hope Move on realizes soon that what is needed to
tell congress is not to send ANY funding bill back, if Bush
vetoes the funds for his own war. (but we know he will)

Eric M


From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed May  2 18:36:14 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:36:14 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: BAREC: Need Help as we near the end,
	Update / Late Meeting Agenda Request
Message-ID: <c0b.12e1c6c3.336a968e@aol.com>

 
Here is the most recent email I have received from Save BAREC.  As  
previously noted, the GPSCC endorsed this effort back in March 2005.  I  have suggested 
that GPSCC members in the City of Santa Clara be contacted about  this -- 
both to support Save BAREC and as an organizing activity for the GPSCC  (e.g., to 
get some GPSCC activists who live in Santa Clara).  I request 10  minutes for 
discussion.  Note particularly below that there is a good  possiblity Santa 
Clara city residents will be needed to  circulate referendum petitions (i.e., 
to put challenge approval of  the development if the City Council approves it). 
 In that case,  circulators may need to be City residents.  Obviously, 
petition  signers will need to live in Santa Clara.  Warner 
 
 
In a message dated 4/28/07 4:06:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
kmathewson at secretgardens.com writes:

Hello BAREC  Supporters:
Following is good  news in our efforts to keep BAREC in open space:
1.  This  past week the Santa Clara Planning Commission voted to delay their 
BAREC  discussion and vote because the Final EIR meeting for Valley Fair was 
being  held the same night and both are huge changes to the BAREC neighborhood. 
  It will probably be held on Monday May 14th at 7 pm and the following night 
 the City Council may have its BAREC hearing and vote.  We will keep you  
informed.
2.  Last week  the Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors voted to support 
the County  Historical Commission's letter stating that the BAREC EIR was not 
sufficient  and that BAREC was sufficiently historically important that it 
should be  placed on the state historical registry.  This is something that the  
Santa Clara City Historical Commission has been unwilling to  address.
3.  We have  gone before the San Jose Rules Committee to place BAREC on the 
City  Council Agenda with the hopes that San Jose will begin negotiating for 
BAREC  as a San Jose City park now that it is clear the city of Santa Clara has 
no  intention to keep BAREC in open space nor to save any of its  history. 
4.  Keep  adding to to the BAREC/Santa Clara EIR document with any new 
information or  comments you have.  You can do this up until the day the Santa Clara 
City  Council votes on approving the Final EIR.  It looks like this will be  
Tuesday, May 15th.  For those who made comments it is very important that  you 
read the State's comments to yours as most do not have substance and do  not 
address all your issues.  However, do use a lot of words.   We need your 
comments to prove this, however.  Send  them to: 
 

TO:   Gloria Sciara, Project Manager 
City of Santa  Clara, Planning  Division 
1500 Civic Center  Drive 
Santa Clara,  CA 95050 
"Gloria Sciara" _GSciara at ci.santa-clara.ca.us_ 
(mailto:GSciara at ci.santa-clara.ca.us) 
FAX:   247-9857 

Following are  some research and support projects for which we need extra 
help.  We are  coming down to the final days and this  help is most important in  
saving BAREC from housing.  Those starred are the most important  ones.  
HISTORY RESEARCH ISSUES: 
*1.  BAREC STRAWBERRY JAPANESE CULTURAL  RESEARCH PROGRAM:  Why did  the 
State spend so many pages in the Final EIR refuting the importance of this  
research program?  Was it because the story is too important and a  major reason why 
BAREC is historically important?  The State did not  use local historians for 
their report and, therefore, the people they got to  prove their points were 
not the people who really know our local  history.  We need more research on 
the importance of the BAREC research  on strawberries and the importance of the 
Japanese Cultural Research Program  at BAREC so we can refute what the State 
is saying. 
*2.  VETERANS ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING'S  RELATIONSHIP TO THE CIVIL WAR 
VETERANS HOME:  The State is hiding something here  and showing us conflicting 
stories.  Recently the State renewed its five  year lease to the Veterans Office on 
the corner of BAREC.  At the  last meeting they said that the reason they did 
not include this land in the  BAREC housing proposal is because the county 
was responsible for this  land.  The original entrance to the 1880s home and the 
home for the  Civil War Veterans is adjacent to the Veterans Office (road, 
sidewalk, and  trees)  Why?   
*3.  FIND A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE:  There are living people that have  told us 
that in the San Jose Mercury News that when the veterans? home  was closed in 
1963 that the State did not own this land.  We need someone  to go through the 
newspaper to find this. 
4.  RESEARCH RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN BAREC AND  WINCHESTER  HOUSE:  Especially 
important  is the Civil War connection.  There is a library at the Winchester  
House. 
MISCELLANEOUS  RESEARCH 
1. CONTACT THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE COMMENTS TO THE  DRAFT EIR:  Make  sure the 
people who wrote comments to the Draft EIR read their comments and  comment 
back.  We need to show that the State did not do a thorough job  addressing the 
issues that were raised. 
2.  STATISTICIAN FOR INFORMATION COLLECTED  ON BAREC CANCER CLUSTER:  The 
neighborhood has done a  good job collecting the information about the people who 
have had or have  cancer around BAREC but it needs to be put in a 
professional  format. 
3.  LEGAL RESEARCH ON PRECEDENTS FOR STATE  OFFERING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LAND 
AND FOR OPEN SPACE FEES RATHER THAN  HOUSING:  The law  states this is a 
requirement but we need precedents.  What should  the fair price for open space be? 
*4.  FOUNDATION  AND DONATION MONEY:  To keep BAREC in open space we have  
raised $200,000.  We probably will need  more.  The big high tech valley 
companies all have organic food  in their cafeterias for their employees so we know 
there are people with money  who will support local organic food.  What 
foundations or people  will donate money for a more sustainable Silicon Valley? 
5.  BIOREMEDIATION  RESEARCH:  We need more  people and reports on soil 
bioremediation to clear up in particular Dieldrin  and Arsenic and the many other 
chemicals which do not have toxicity ratings.   
6.  WRITTEN LETTERS FROM BAREC NEIGHBORS  REGARDING STATE DROPPING CHEMICALS 
FROM PLANES:  We need written signed letters with  details from the BAREC 
neighbors who experienced the State dropping chemicals  from airplanes from the 
1950s to the 1960s.  Questions to ask:  How  long did it take?  How often?  What 
day of the week?  What time  of day?  How low did they fly over the property? 
 Was the wind  blowing?  What was the smell like and how long did it  last? 
ORGANIZATIONAL  PROJECTS 
*1.  BAREC MAILING LIST:  We need help to set up BAREC  mailing list so those 
who do not have an email can receive US Postal  mail. 
*2.  GENERAL FILING AND FINDING:  We have collected a lot of  information and 
it needs to get into the public record.  Help is needed  here. 
*3.  ORGANIZING THE CITY COUNCIL  MEETING:  We need help  organizing the City 
Council meeting the evening the Santa Clara City  Council will vote to 
approve the Final EIR and change BAREC's  zoning. 
*4.  SANTA CLARA CITIZENS TO HELP GATHER  SIGNATURES FOR REFERENDUM:   If the 
City Council votes to change BAREC's zoning we will need to collect  more 
than 7000 signatures in 30 days.  We need help organizing and  doing this. 
5.  INFORM ALL SAN  JOSE CITY COUNCILMEN:  Let them know about the BAREC 
issues  and why it is important that San Jose rather  than the city of Santa  
Clara take BAREC. 








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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed May  2 21:55:55 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 21:55:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Message-ID: <46396B5B.1030504@earthlink.net>


Below is the proposed agenda.

NOTE: the time is much shorter than normal.  Maybe because
Jim Doyle is distracted.  Maybe I missed some requests.

I only saw 2 requests, 1 from Carol, 1 from Warner.
Please let me know ASAP if I missed something.

Gerry


   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -

Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Thursday, May 3, 2007
Location:
         San Jose Peace Center
         48 South 7th Street, San Jose
         http://www.sanjosepeace.org/

6:30 Socializing and Dinner  -  7:30 Meeting
         (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
         so bring your own or get it from one of the
         nearby restaurants)

          -- Preliminary Items --

Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
     Vibes Watcher(s)  (5)
Introductions and Short Announcements  (5)
Revise and Affirm Agenda  (5)

          -- Main Part --


1. Treasurer's Report  (10)  Cameron

2. State Party Business
     May Plenary  (30)  Warner
         Appointment of Plenary delegates
         Discussion of selected issues
         Proposals??

3. Old Business
     Tabling  (10?)  (??)

4. New Business
     Endorse Lytton Plaza Impeachment Rallies?  (5)  C. Brouillet

(Total scheduled time:  1 hours, 10 minutes??)

          -- Future Events --

Next GPSCC meeting  Thursday, June 7, 2007

          -- Disclaimer --

The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.  The
actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
reached during the meeting because of time limits.  Persons
receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
individuals who do not have email.



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May  2 23:24:46 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 23:24:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GreenPeace forces Apple's Hand: Jobs announces
	set of green initiatives
Message-ID: <428544.30975.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Cameron Spitzer and I spoke extensively to the GreenPeace employees
that are pressing this "Green My Apple" campaign and we in the Green
Party of Santa Clara are talking about participating together in a
coalitional action at the Apple stockholders meeting on May 10th.  Its
nice to see that whether or not we choose to do that action now, that
they've made a significant impact already.

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/tasty-apple-news-020507

Tasty news from Apple!
02 May 2007

Apple's site boasts "A Greener Apple" banner to announce a change in
policy.

International ? We are cheering! Steve Jobs has decided to bring us
closer to the greener apple that Mac users all over the world have been
asking for.
Today we saw something we've all been waiting for: the words "A Greener
Apple" on the front page of Apple's site, with a message from Steve
Jobs saying "Today we're changing our policy."

It's not everything we asked for.  Apple has declared a phase out of
the worst chemicals in its product range, Brominated Fire Retardants
(BFRs) and Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) by 2008. That beats Dell and other
computer manufactures' pledge to phase them out by 2009. Way to go
Steve!

But while customers in the US will be able to return their Apple
products for recycling knowing that their gear won't end up in the
e-waste mountains of Asia and India, Apple isn't making that promise to
anyone but customers in the USA.  Elsewhere in the world, an Apple
product today can still be tomorrow's e-waste. Other manufacturers
offer worldwide takeback and recycling. Apple should too!

Apple hasn't gotten an actual green product to market, but no other
electronics manufacture has either.  That's a race worthy of the
wizards of Cupertino.

We've seen the enthusiasm with which Apple fans have greeted our
campaign to make Apple a green leader. They've made clear what they
want-- an Apple which isn't just skin-deep green, but green to the
core. One that creates products free from the most hazardous chemicals,
that they can buy and return with a clear conscience, secure in the
knowledge that Apple will re-use or recycle them responsibly, and that
won't end up in scrapyards or add to the mountains of e-waste that the
electronics industry has created.

Apple must begin to address these growing problems to ensure that the
workers and children of Asia and many developing nations no longer face
the unnecessary environmental and health dangers posed by the high-tech
industry's waste.

We look forward to working with the new, greener Apple in future ?
toward the greening of the entire electronics industry.

And to all the Apple fans who have contributed their thoughts and blogs
and creativity to this campaign, reach over your shoulder and pat
yourself on the back. Put a happy tune on your ipod and do a happy
dance. You've proven you can make a real difference. You convinced one
of the world's most cutting edge companies to cut the toxic ingredients
out of the products they sell. 

Now, let's take it to the next level!  An Apple green to the core!

__________

http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives/2007/04/upcoming_apple_annual_general.html
Put on the pressure: Apple AGM is coming up!

On May 10th, the Apple Annual General Meeting will take place at 1
Infinite Loop in Cupertino, California. Two environmental resolutions
filed by investors calling for Apple to improve their policies on
take-back and the use of hazardous chemicals have already been nixed by
the Apple board of directors. But that doesn't preclude the great,
wise, and good leadership of Apple taking their own measures to
improve. Apple didn't budge from last place in our recent Green
Electronics ranking, in which Chinese manufacturer Lenova leapt into
the lead.

The time is now, Apple fans! Let's turn up the pressure by hitting the
blogs, storming technorati, and getting the word out far and wide that
we want to hear about a new, green Apple on May 10th.

__________________

Job's statement:
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/agreenerapple/

__________________

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117814551181090044.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Apple CEO Unveils Set of Green Initiatives
By JIM CARLTON
May 3, 2007; Page B3

SAN FRANCISCO -- Apple Inc.'s Steve Jobs, responding to sharp criticism
from environmentalists that his company isn't green enough, has
unveiled a set of initiatives that he said would put the company ahead
of rivals on recycling and other environmental issues.

The Apple chief executive officer posted an open letter on the Apple
Web site entitled "A Greener Apple," laying out for the first time
publicly the Cupertino, Calif. company's plans to make its products as
environmentally friendly as possible. "We apologize for leaving you in
the dark for this long," Mr. Jobs said in his letter.

Two of the biggest commitments address some of the main concerns of
Greenpeace and other environmental groups: that Apple phase out the use
of two toxic chemicals -- polyvinyl chloride and brominated flame
retardants --and ramp up its recycling of computers and other products.

Mr. Jobs said those chemicals would be eliminated from Apple's products
by the end of 2008, and that the company would expand world-wide an
existing program in the U.S. of customers being able to drop off their
old iPods at Apple retail stores and disposed of for free.

A corporate-accountability group called As You Sow has filed two
shareholder resolutions for vote at Apple's board meeting next week
seeking those kinds of actions. A spokeswoman for the group said it has
not decided whether to withdraw the resolutions.

Critics, who have hounded Apple for the past several years to do more
on the environmental front, credited their public pressure for Apple's
turnabout. "You're the consumers of Apple's product, and you've proven
you make a real difference," the environmental group Greenpeace said in
a statement posted on its U.S. Web site Wednesday.

Environmentalists have been asking Apple and other personal-computer
makers for years to clean up their act. They say millions of computers
with toxic ingredients end up being thrown in landfills without proper
recycling, and have been urging the manufacturers to do more to help.
After Hewlett-Packard Co. and Dell Inc. made commitments to be greener,
activists about a year ago began picketing Apple and engaging in other
protests to get the computer maker to follow suit.

In his letter, Mr. Jobs acknowledged the criticism, but said much of it
was unfair because Apple has already done a lot to meet environmental
goals.

"Upon investigating Apple's current practices and progress towards
these goals, I was surprised to learn that in many cases Apple is ahead
of, or will soon be ahead of, most of its competitors in these areas,"
he wrote. "Whatever other improvements we need to make, it is certainly
clear that we have failed to communicate the things that we are doing
well."

Mr. Jobs added that Apple plans to provide updates at least annually on
its progress on the environment.

Write to Jim Carlton at jim.carlton at wsj.com

___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May  3 00:37:15 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 00:37:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] May 11th 911 Truth Event
Message-ID: <662508.90066.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

fyi from doug mackenzie
a 911 truth event some folks are organizing in san jose
invite those you know
 
UPDATE:
ACTIVITY: Peaceful expresion of concern for 9/11 Truth, and awareness
raising by sharing info.
LOCATION: Let's open this month Downtown. Meet at the north end of
Cesar Chavez Park(Market Street). We'll work there for an hour or so,
then walk a few blocks through town and hand out info.
TIME: 4:30 to 6:30 PM
MATERIALS: I will bring signs and handouts, including invitations to
join our activities. Bring materials if you have them. And, if you can,
I'd be pleased to accept contributions for the materials I bring.
(Thanks!)

USE the following to create posters, and put 'em up wherever you feel
they will bring people out to support the cause. I'm going to post at
West Valley College, and local bulliten boards, etc.

info poster start...

If Not You, WHO?

If Not Now, WHEN?

* * *

Serious questions have been raised since September 11, 2001, regarding
the horrific events of that tragic day, by many credible researchers,
scientists, and other professional, and ordinary concerned citizens.


Each of us has the right and responsibility as free people to ask
questions, get answers, and see that all those involved in committing
those tragic criminal acts are brought to justice.


Take the time to become more informed. Your new-found knowledge will
surely empower you to take whatever action you can, not just for
yourself, but for the thousands of precious lives lost on that day, and
the many more surviving loved ones.


Valuable information can be found at these, and other credible web
sites:

911truth.org

patriotsquestion911.com

st911.org

wtc7.net

* * *

Join South Bay 9/11 Honesty Advocates in street action on the 11th of
every month to help raise awareness of this critical issue.


___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Thu May  3 01:08:37 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 04:08:37 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Message-ID: <d53.8447aa1.336af285@aol.com>

Hi Gerry,

Can you add:

1.  Meeting date (5 min.)
       CC thinks it best to keep the regular meeting date instead of changing 
it
2.  Iraq Labor Leader Tour June 10 co-sponsorship (5 min.)
       CC recommends donating $50.00
       Tabling
       As a co-sponsor our Green party will mobilize our members to attend 
this event
3.  Bike4Peace/Catalysts Of Change co-sponsorship (5 min.)
       CC recommends donating $100.00

Thanks,
Merriam

Subj:   [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting?   
Date:   5/2/2007 9:53:54 PM Pacific Standard Time   
From:   gerrygras at earthlink.net 
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org    
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    



Below is the proposed agenda.

NOTE: the time is much shorter than normal.? Maybe because
Jim Doyle is distracted.? Maybe I missed some requests.

I only saw 2 requests, 1 from Carol, 1 from Warner.
Please let me know ASAP if I missed something.

Gerry


?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -?? -

Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Thursday, May 3, 2007
Location:
? ? ? ?? San Jose Peace Center
? ? ? ?? 48 South 7th Street, San Jose
? ? ? ?? http://www.sanjosepeace.org/

6:30 Socializing and Dinner? -? 7:30 Meeting
? ? ? ?? (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
? ? ? ?? so bring your own or get it from one of the
? ? ? ?? nearby restaurants)

? ? ? ? ? -- Preliminary Items --

Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
? ?? Vibes Watcher(s)? (5)
Introductions and Short Announcements? (5)
Revise and Affirm Agenda? (5)

? ? ? ? ? -- Main Part --


1. Treasurer's Report? (10)? Cameron

2. State Party Business
? ?? May Plenary? (30)? Warner
? ? ? ?? Appointment of Plenary delegates
? ? ? ?? Discussion of selected issues
? ? ? ?? Proposals??

3. Old Business
? ?? Tabling? (10?)? (??)

4. New Business
? ?? Endorse Lytton Plaza Impeachment Rallies?? (5)? C. Brouillet

(Total scheduled time:? 1 hours, 10 minutes??)

? ? ? ? ? -- Future Events --

Next GPSCC meeting? Thursday, June 7, 2007

? ? ? ? ? -- Disclaimer --

The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.? The
actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
reached during the meeting because of time limits.? Persons
receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
individuals who do not have email.





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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Thu May  3 01:29:49 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 04:29:49 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] May Tabling events to add to Proposed Agenda for
	county meeting
Message-ID: <ccd.109c8b4b.336af77d@aol.com>

Hi All,

At the County Coucil meeting I agreed to manage the May tabling activities.  
Since I am new at all this I will appreciate any and all advice & suggestions 
from you seasoned
tablers.  Also I would like one of you to help me as a co-manager.  Who is 
willing to help me?

I have a list of 3 tabling events for May to discuss at the meeting.  Are 
there any more that I don't know about? 

Saturday        May 5     Cinco de Mayo

Where is this event located?



Saturday           May 12  Berryessa Arts & Wine Festival


Sunday          May 13  Mother's Day

Is there an event happening for Mother's Day?

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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Thu May  3 01:54:34 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 04:54:34 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposal to Co-Sponsor Iraq Labor Leader Tour
	June 10
Message-ID: <c47.13e9d935.336afd4a@aol.com>

Hi All,

Regarding the Iraq Labor Leader Tout:
At the County Council meeting we agreed to propose that GPSCC co-sponsor this 
tour.  Co-sponsorship entails a donation and mobilizing our members to attend 
the event.  We are proposing that we donate $50.00. I will make this proposal 
at our Thursday meeting.  The Major co-sponsors are the Central Labor Council 
and South Bay Mobilization, both are donating at least $500.00. 

Merriam

The following is a letter from US. Labor Against War regarding the Tour:

Dear Sisters and Brothers:

News from and about Iraq floods the airwaves and commercial press on 
which most Americans depend to learn what is happening there, yet we 
know almost nothing about what the Iraqi people think and experience.? 
We hear pundits, politicians, generals and professional journalists 
about suicide bombers, armed militias, military operations, political 
infighting and sectarian divisions - but the voices of Iraq's working 
people are never heard.? The reality of their lives is 'missing in 
action' from the corporate media.? 

At this crucial juncture in the struggle to end the occupation and war 
in Iraq, we have a rare opportunity to hear those missing voices right 
here in our community.? U.S. Labor Against the War is once again 
planning to bring Iraqi labor leaders to the U.S., between approximately 
June 6 - 23, 2007.? They are Faleh Abood Umara, General Secretary of the 
Federation of Oil Workers, and Hashemeya Mohsen al Hussein, President of 
the Electrical Utility Workers union.? They will speak about the 
situation in Iraq today - how workers cope with the occupation and civil 
war - the effort through U.S. imposition of a new Oil Law to hijack 
control over Iraqi oil - and the prospects for ending the conflict and 
allowing Iraqis to chart their own future free of foreign domination, 
sectarian divide, and regional rivalries.

As the first woman to lead a major Iraqi union, as an electrical worker 
and a mother, Hashemeya is especially knowledgeable about the utility 
industry and provision of basic services, the status of reconstruction, 
the situation of unions, and the conditions facing families.? Faleh is a 
co-founder and leader of the union of oil workers who was one of six 
trade union leaders to visit the U.S. under USLAW auspices in 2005.? He 
visited the Bay Area then as part of a 25-city national tour.? Faleh 
will report on the status of the proposed Oil Law and its meaning for 
the workers and people of Iraq.? He will discuss how the labor movement 
is faring under circumstances where they still do not have the legal 
right to organize, their bank accounts have been frozen, union offices 
continue to be raided, and union leaders continue to be the target of 
violent assaults and assassinations.? Together they will discuss what 
would be likely to happen if the occupation ended, and also what is 
likely to happen if it does not.? They will report on the prospects for 
establishing a government dedicated to the people's interests, one that 
will respect labor and human rights, one free of sectarian and regional 
division, committed to a democratic future for Iraq.

During their stay in the U.S., Faleh and Hashemeya will meet with 
members of Congress, leaders of the U.S. labor movement, and interested 
union members, antiwar activists and community members.? Whether they 
come to the Bay Area depends entirely on our being able to raise the 
funds in advance to underwrite their U.S. visit.? We seek co-sponsorship 
and endorsement of the Bay Area portion of their tour by local labor 
unions, peace and social justice groups, and women's organizations.?? 
Co-sponsorship involves a commitment to raise and contribute funds, 
participate in planning events, helping with publicity, promotion and 
outreach, and help in securing appropriate venues.?? In addition to 
their costs of travel, we also want to raise additional funds we can 
contribute to their organizations to support their work.? 

*Please indicate your interest in helping to plan the Bay Area leg of 
their national tour, and the prospects for sponsorship or endorsement by 
your organization. ** *

*Funds are urgently needed to assure this tour can take place.? **Time 
for raising the funds and planning events is very short**.? If you 
and/or your organization are prepared to make a financial contribution, 
please let us know, even if you are not prepared to work on the details 
of the tour. ** *

*We are suggesting several levels of financial support:? Benefactor, 
$500 +,? Champion $250 - $499,? and Donor, $100 - $249, but? please be 
aware, we honor and appreciate **all** levels of support from both 
individuals and organizations. ** *

*Checks should be made payable to the USLAW Iraq Labor Solidarity Fund.? 
Send contributions to USLAW Iraq Labor Solidarity Tour, 1718 M Street, 
NW, #153, Washington, DC, 20036. ** *

*Time is very short.? The need is urgent.? Please respond as soon as you 
can to let us know whether we can count on your organization's or your 
personal support. ** *

The tour locally will be coordinated by the Bay Area Labor Committee for 
Peace & Justice.

Yours in solidarity for LC4PJ and USLAW,

Michael Eisenscher
National Coordinator

Bay Area Tour Coordinator is Mary Prophet
mlprophet at earthlink.net <mailto:mlprophet at earthlink.net>
(510) 527-1222






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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu May  3 01:58:16 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 01:58:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Message-ID: <4639A428.9060308@earthlink.net>


3 new items have been added (3B, 4B, 4C)

Gerry


   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -

Proposed Agenda for County Meeting
Thursday, May 3, 2007
Location:
         San Jose Peace Center
         48 South 7th Street, San Jose
         http://www.sanjosepeace.org/

6:30 Socializing and Dinner  -  7:30 Meeting
         (dinner is not provided by the Peace Center,
         so bring your own or get it from one of the
         nearby restaurants)

          -- Preliminary Items --

Choose Facilitator(s), Note-Taker(s), Time Keeper, and
     Vibes Watcher(s)  (5)
Introductions and Short Announcements  (5)
Revise and Affirm Agenda  (5)

          -- Main Part --


1. Treasurer's Report  (10)  Cameron

2. State Party Business
     A. May Plenary  (30)  Warner
        Appointment of Plenary delegates
        Discussion of selected issues
        Proposals??

3. Old Business
     A. Tabling  (10?)  (??)
     B. Meeting date  (5)  Drew? / Merriam?
        CC thinks it best to keep the regular meeting date
        instead of changing it

4. New Business
     A. Endorse Lytton Plaza Impeachment Rallies?  (5)  C. Brouillet
     B. Iraq Labor Leader Tour June 10 co-sponsorship (5)  Merriam?
        CC recommends donating $50.00
        Tabling
        As a co-sponsor our Green party will mobilize our
            members to attend this event
     C. Bike4Peace/Catalysts Of Change co-sponsorship (5)  CC members?
        CC recommends donating $100.00


(Total scheduled time:  1 hours, 25 minutes??)

          -- Future Events --

Next GPSCC meeting  Thursday, June 7, 2007

          -- Disclaimer --

The items summarized above are agenda suggestions, only.  The
actual meeting agenda is affirmed at the meeting by those who are
present. Additionally, the times allotted to agenda items may be
changed during the course of the meeting, and some items may not e
reached during the meeting because of time limits.  Persons
receiving this email are invited to make additional suggestions or
corrections regarding potential agenda items, time estimates or
the agenda sequence. Please share this information with
individuals who do not have email.



From andid at cagreens.org  Thu May  3 10:32:25 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 10:32:25 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The New Land Race - The "Newer World" Free for
	the Taking!
Message-ID: <54284DF1-BB58-4FC3-A1DD-652BAA4F3A53@cagreens.org>

Robert J. Miller is a law professor at Lewis & Clark Law School, the  
chief justice of the Grand Ronde Tribe, and an Eastern Shawnee. He is  
the author of Native America: Discovered and Conquered.

Recent news reports state that global warming and the shrinking  
Arctic icecaps are opening new sea lanes and making barren islands  
suddenly very valuable. In fact, the international community might  
experience a new race of exploration, conquest and acquisition for  
this ?new world??these newly available lands and sea routes.  
Conflicts could arise over shipping lanes, islands, fish stocks,  
minerals and oil that are now becoming accessible and commercially  
exploitable.

Governments are even now engaged in asserting their sovereignty over  
these areas and assets. Canada, Denmark and the United States are  
already involved in diplomatic disputes over these issues. For  
example, Canada and Denmark have sent diplomats and warships to plant  
their flags on tiny Hans Island near northwestern Greenland. In 1984,  
Denmark?s Minister for Greenland Affairs landed on the island in a  
helicopter and raised the Danish flag, buried a bottle of brandy, and  
left a note that said ?Welcome to the Danish Island.? Canada was not  
amused by this assertion of Danish sovereignty. In 2005, the Canadian  
Defense Minister and troops landed on the island and hoisted the  
Canadian flag. Denmark lodged an official protest. In addition,  
Canada, Russia and Denmark are claiming waters all the way to the  
North Pole. Moreover, the United States and Canada are disputing  
Canadian claims that the emerging Northwest Passage sea route is in  
its territory. The U.S. insists the waters are neutral and open to  
all but Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper states that he will  
place military icebreakers in the area ?to assert our sovereignty and  
take action to protect our territorial integrity.?

This kind of conduct is nothing new. It mirrors exactly the actions  
taken by European and American governments in the 15th?20th centuries  
in their race to claim the lands and the assets of the New World of  
the Americas, Africa, and other areas. That race was conducted under  
the international legal principle known today as the Doctrine of  
Discovery. Under various papal bulls, Spain and Portugal could  
establish claims to the lands of indigenous, non-Christian, non- 
European peoples by merely ?discovering? the lands. Spanish,  
Portuguese, and later English and French explorers engaged in  
numerous types of Discovery rituals upon encountering new lands. The  
hoisting of their flag and the cross and leaving evidence that they  
had been there was part of the Discovery process. In 1776-78, for  
example, Captain Cook established English claims to British Columbia  
by leaving English coins in buried bottles. In 1774, he erased  
Spanish marks of ownership and possession in Tahiti and replaced them  
with English ones. Upon learning of this, Spain dispatched explorers  
to restore its marks of possession. Furthermore, in 1742-49, French  
military expeditions buried lead plates throughout the Ohio country  
to reassert the French claims of discovery dating from 1643. The  
plates stated that they were ?a renewal of possession.?

Americans also engaged in discovery rituals. The Lewis & Clark  
expedition marked and branded trees and rocks in the Pacific  
Northwest to prove the American presence and claim to the region.  
They also left a memorial or memo at Fort Clatsop in March 1806 and  
gave copies to Indians to deliver to any whites that might arrive to  
prove the U.S. presence and claim to the Northwest. The memorial  
stated that its ?object? was that ?through the medium of some  
civilized person . . . it may be made known to the informed world?  
that Lewis & Clark had crossed the continent and lived at the mouth  
of the Columbia River on the Pacific Ocean. This was nothing less  
than a claim of discovery and possession of the region and a claim of  
ownership under the Doctrine of Discovery.

A decade later, as the U.S. and England argued over the Pacific  
Northwest and the possession of Fort Astoria at the mouth of the  
Columbia, Secretary of State John Quincy Adams and President James  
Monroe took actions based directly upon the principles of Discovery.  
In 1817, as they despaired that England would voluntarily return Fort  
Astoria, Adams and Monroe ordered an American diplomat and naval  
captain to sail to Astoria ?to assert the [American] claim of  
territorial possession at the mouth of Columbia River.? Adams wrote  
that this mission was designed ?to resume possession of that post,  
and in some appropriate manner to reassert the title of the United  
States.?

Accordingly, Monroe and Adams ordered the American diplomat John  
Prevost and Captain James Biddle to sail to the Columbia and to  
?assert there the claim of sovereignty in the name of ... the United  
States, by some symbolical or other appropriate mode of setting up a  
claim of national authority and dominion.? The President and  
Secretary of State were ordering them to engage in Discovery rituals.  
Prevost and Biddle did as they were ordered. In August 1818, Captain  
Biddle arrived at the north side of the mouth of the Columbia River  
and in the presence of Chinook Indians he raised the U.S. flag,  
turned the soil with a shovel, and nailed up a lead plate that read:  
?Taken possession of, in the name and on the behalf of the United  
States by Captain James Biddle.? He repeated this Discovery ritual on  
the south shore of the Columbia and hung up a wooden sign declaring  
American ownership of the region.

John Prevost arrived at Fort Astoria in September 1818 and with the  
cooperation of the English he proceeded to use Discovery rituals to  
reclaim the fort for the United States. First, the English flag was  
lowered and the U.S. flag was hoisted in its place. Then the English  
troops filed a salute, the American flag was taken down and the Union  
Jack was returned to its place, and the American diplomat sailed away  
with his Discovery mission accomplished.

In 1823, the United States Supreme Court in Johnson v. M?Intosh  
declared that the Doctrine of Discovery had been the law on the North  
American continent since the beginning of European exploration and  
controlled how Europeans and Americans could claim and acquire land  
from the Indian nations. Discovery is still the law in the United  
States today and in the international arena as is well demonstrated  
by the actions of modern day countries attempting to claim new lands  
and assets in the Arctic. We appear to be at the start of a new race  
to establish claims to this ?New World? of the Arctic as the icecaps  
retreat, and it is evident that the rituals and principles of the  
Doctrine of Discovery provide the legal framework for claims to newly  
discovered lands and assets.
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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu May  3 11:03:00 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:03:00 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Media Moves -- Can We Finally End the
	Stranglehold?
Message-ID: <13D1DDF2-E365-4DBA-AC9D-7CD3FE89B86C@cagreens.org>

NAB-bing the Election

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/take_back_the_airwaves/

Posted on Apr 10, 2007

By Amy Goodman

As the TV pundits on the networks gab about the tens of millions of  
dollars raised by the top presidential candidates, what they don?t  
talk about is where that money is going: to their own networks.

Money is now considered the single most important factor in our  
electoral process. Ideas and issues take a back seat to the bottom  
line. This prostitution of our electoral process has one key culprit:  
television advertising...



Some bold members of Congress have tried throughout the decades to  
end this stranglehold on the political process. Sen. Bill Bradley  
tried in the 1990s...



In 2003, Sen. Russ Feingold, along with Sens. Richard Durbin, Jon  
Corzine and John McCain, submitted the Our Democracy, Our Airwaves  
Act, which proposed a system of advertising vouchers for candidates...



Now Durbin is taking another crack at the NAB. He has introduced the  
Fair Elections Now Act, which would both grant vouchers for broadcast  
ads and mandate a 20 percent discount beyond the lowest unit cost of  
ads near primary and election times.

While the public airwaves are sold off to the highest campaign  
bidders (often to push negative ads, but that is another issue), the  
broadcasters fail miserably to report on the campaigns. After all, if  
the broadcasters fulfilled their public-interest obligations and  
actually reported fully and consistently on the various candidates  
and their issues, and not just on the campaign horse race, then there  
would be less need for campaigns to buy ads in the first place...



The American public is being robbed by the National Association of  
Broadcasters.  It?s time to take back the airwaves.

Amy Goodman is the host of ?Democracy Now!,? a daily international TV/ 
radio news hour airing on 500 stations in North America.

? 2007 Amy Goodman; distributed by King Features Syndicate
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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu May  3 11:26:46 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:26:46 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Action Alert re small publishers
In-Reply-To: <46285BCF.2030008@earthlink.net>
References: <46285BCF.2030008@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <10D4262F-64B7-40CA-8952-CFAAED22CACB@cagreens.org>

KPFA noted that Time-Warner had a great deal to do with the proposal  
as presented.  Curious, no?
A.

On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:21 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
> I read an article written by Robert McChesney about
> a proposal to raise postal rates for small publishers.
> This is alleged to be a big deal for the small
> publishers because it would make them less competitive
> with the larger publishers, and therefore tend to
> increase media consolidation.  This article is available
> at:
>
> "Post Office to the First Amendment: Drop Dead"
>      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/17/575/
>
> Please note that there are a variety of opinions
> appended from readers, and some are apparently from
> small publishers.
>
> I was curious what The Nation had to say and below is their
> response.
>
> Gerry
>
> P.S. It is probably due to my having an old browser,
> but I was unable to find out what the addresses are
> for the two members of the USPS that we are supposed to
> write to.
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [INFX] Are the proposed new postal rate
> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:57:34 -0400
> From: Peter Rothberg <peter at thenation.com>
> To: gerrygras at earthlink.net
>
> Thanks for your interest. They are a huge problem for The Nation.
> We've been campaigning. This post will explain everything. Thanks for
> reading and for your support.
> http://www.thenation.com/blogs/actnow?pid=187140
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu May  3 11:35:26 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:35:26 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] save internet radio
In-Reply-To: <462D1DFB.7C8F@california.com>
References: <462D1DFB.7C8F@california.com>
Message-ID: <502A3ED1-34C7-47D0-A505-F528E622C2BD@cagreens.org>

There seems to be a 3-pronged attack on indie media and this is one  
of those prongs.  The other two:  see my email on the 15th about  
"Video Testing" which is aimed at public access TV (PEG) and the  
emails from two of us regarding proposed postage increases on indie  
mags--see <stoppostalratehikes.com> for more info on the latter.   
It's serious, GP colleagues!!
Andrea

On Apr 23, 2007, at 1:58 PM, E. Alan Meece wrote:

> We are looking into internet radio at KKUP, but may not be able to if
> congress doesn't act soon. Here's a notice I got:
>
>
> I suppose most have already heard about this but I've not seen  
> anything
> mentioned here about what is happening to Internet Radio. I  
> received an
> email from Pandora about unfair copyright fees placed on IR and  
> thought
> I
> would forward this along to those who haven't heard...
>
> Please sign the petition urging your Congressional representative  
> to act
> to
> save Internet radio:
>
> http://capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9631541
>
> <snip - Letter from Pandora Radio>
>
> Hi, it's Tim from Pandora,
>
> I'm writing today to ask for your help. The survival of Pandora and  
> all
> of
> Internet radio is in jeopardy because of a recent decision by the
> Copyright
> Royalty Board in Washington, DC to almost triple the licensing fees  
> for
> Internet radio sites like Pandora. The new royalty rates are
> irrationally
> high, more than four times what satellite radio pays and broadcast  
> radio
> doesn't pay these at all. Left unchanged, these new royalties will  
> kill
> every Internet radio site, including Pandora.
>
> In response to these new and unfair fees, we have formed the
> SaveNetRadio
> Coalition, a group that includes listeners, artists, labels and
> webcasters.
> I hope that you will consider joining us.
>
> Please sign our petition urging your Congressional representative  
> to act
> to
> save Internet radio:
> http://capwiz.com/saveinternetradio/issues/alert/?alertid=9631541
>
> Please feel free to forward this link/email to your friends - the more
> petitioners we can get, the better.
>
> Understand that we are fully supportive of paying royalties to the
> artists
> whose music we play, and have done so since our inception. As a former
> touring musician myself, I'm no stranger to the challenges facing
> working
> musicians. The issue we have with the recent ruling is that it puts  
> the
> cost of streaming far out of the range of ANY webcaster's business
> potential.
>
> I hope you'll take just a few minutes to sign our petition - it WILL
> make a
> difference. As a young industry, we do not have the lobbying power of
> the
> RIAA. You, our listeners, are by far our biggest and most influential
> allies.
>
> As always, and now more than ever, thank you for your support.
>
> -Tim Westergren
>
> (Pandora founder)
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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu May  3 11:40:36 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:40:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] More Impeachment Photos and Stories
In-Reply-To: <4636720C.10106@earthlink.net>
References: <4636720C.10106@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1CD99C59-0408-44E8-9DD8-3676E2D54BA5@cagreens.org>

It looks like the Impeach Now movement is getting legs.  Very inspiring.
Maybe we economic units have value after all!
Andrea

On Apr 30, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
>
> The main page (that I know of) about Saturday's impeachment
> events is:
>
>       http://www.a28.org/
>
> Yesterday the only noteworthy reporting was about the
> San Francisco beach event.
>
> Today there are stories from many cities.
>
> Tomorrow there may be more.
>
> Recommended parts to check:
> - the map (can anyone explain the difference between
>     the red and blue markers? or the airplanes?)
> - the San Francisco section (the largest crowd)
> - the Washington, DC section
>     (note: there is a photo that includes the Washington
>     momument in it, and the photo below it was taken from
>     the monument
> - The Sacramento section (about the "billboard" visible
>     from I-5)
> - Delray Beach (Bush and Cheney are convicted)
> - the Boston section (Bush and Cheney are convicted)
> - the Atlanta Progressive News page (it has a nightime
>     photo)
>
> The pink "C"s are due to Code Pink, and the orange "!"
> is due to "The World Can't Wait (Drive Out the Bush Regime)".
>
> And there are more pictures of the San Francisco event at:
>       http://www.bodiescount.org/
>
> ...
>
> But I could not find a single word about all this from the
> San Francisco Chronicle, the San Jose Mercury News, or the
> Palo Alto Daily News, either in the paper or online.
>
> I wish they would do a national poll.  The last poll I heard
> about was over a year ago, where a slight majority supported
> impeachment.  Imagine what it might be now, post attorney
> firings, after further Iraq War degradations, after Iran
> attack threats, after ... (what have I forgotten?)
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
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From wrolley at charter.net  Thu May  3 13:13:25 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 13:13:25 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NY Times OpEd: Congress Has the Power to Impeach
	Gonzales
Message-ID: <463A4265.8080106@charter.net>

For those of you who don't think I am following the impeachment issue.
__
Good piece - worth reading.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/03/opinion/03bowman.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin 


Op-Ed Contributor
He?s Impeachable, You Know
By FRANK BOWMAN
Published: May 3, 2007*

*IF Alberto Gonzales will not resign, Congress should impeach him. 
Article II of the Constitution grants Congress the power to impeach ?the 
president, the vice president and all civil officers of the United 
States.? The phrase ?civil officers? includes the members of the cabinet 
(one of whom, Secretary of War William Belknap, was impeached in 1876).

Impeachment is in bad odor in these post-Clinton days. It needn?t be. 
Though provoked by individual misconduct, the power to impeach is at 
bottom a tool granted Congress to defend the constitutional order. Mr. 
Gonzales?s behavior in the United States attorney affair is of a piece 
with his role as facilitator of this administration?s claims of 
unreviewable executive power.

A cabinet officer, like a judge or a president, may be impeached only 
for commission of ?high crimes and misdemeanors.? But as the Nixon and 
Clinton impeachment debates reminded us, that constitutional phrase 
embraces not only indictable crimes but ?conduct ... grossly 
incompatible with the office held and subversive of that office and of 
our constitutional system of government.?

United States attorneys, though subject to confirmation by the Senate, 
serve at the pleasure of the president. As a constitutional matter, the 
president is at perfect liberty to fire all or some of them whenever it 
suits him. He can fire them for mismanagement, for failing to pursue 
administration priorities with sufficient vigor, or even because he 
would prefer to replace an incumbent with a political crony. Indeed, a 
president could, without exceeding his constitutional authority and 
(probably) without violating any statute, fire a United States attorney 
for pursuing officeholders of the president?s party too aggressively or 
for failing to prosecute officeholders of the other party aggressively 
enough.

That the president has the constitutional power to do these things does 
not mean he has the right to do them without explanation. Congress has 
the right to demand explanations for the president?s managerial choices, 
both to exercise its own oversight function and to inform the voters its 
members represent.

The right of Congress to demand explanations imposes on the president, 
and on inferior executive officers who speak for him, the obligation to 
be truthful. An attorney general called before Congress to discuss the 
workings of the Justice Department can claim the protection of 
?executive privilege? and, if challenged, can defend the (doubtful) 
legitimacy of such a claim in the courts. But having elected to testify, 
he has no right to lie, either by affirmatively misrepresenting facts or 
by falsely claiming not to remember events. Lying to Congress is a 
felony ? actually three felonies: perjury, false statements and 
obstruction of justice.

A false claim not to remember is just as much a lie as a conscious 
misrepresentation of a fact one remembers well. Instances of phony 
forgetfulness seem to abound throughout Mr. Gonzales?s testimony, but 
his claim to have no memory of the November Justice department meeting 
at which he authorized the attorney firings left even Republican 
stalwarts like Jeff Sessions of Alabama gaping in incredulity. The truth 
is almost surely that Mr. Gonzales?s forgetfulness is feigned ? a 
calculated ploy to block legitimate Congressional inquiry into 
questionable decisions made by the Department of Justice, White House 
officials and, quite possibly, the president himself.

Even if perjury were not a felony, lying to Congress has always been 
understood to be an impeachable offense. As James Iredell, later a 
Supreme Court justice, said in 1788 during the debate over the 
impeachment clause, ?The president must certainly be punishable for 
giving false information to the Senate.? The same is true of the 
president?s appointees.

The president may yet yield and send Mr. Gonzales packing. If not, 
Democrats may decide that to impeach Alberto Gonzales would be 
politically unwise. But before dismissing the possibility of 
impeachment, Congress should recognize that the issue here goes deeper 
than the misbehavior of one man. The real question is whether 
Republicans and Democrats are prepared to defend the constitutional 
authority of Congress against the implicit claim of an administration 
that it can do what it pleases and, when called to account, send an 
attorney general of the United States to Capitol Hill to commit amnesia 
on its behalf.

/Frank Bowman is a law professor at the University of Missouri-Columbia./

-- 

I have been impressed with the urgency of doing.
Knowing is not enough; we must apply.
Being willing is not enough; 
We must do. ?Leonardo DaVinci
Wesley C. Rolley
17211 Quail Court
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408)778-3024 - http://cagreening.blogspot.com



From wrolley at charter.net  Thu May  3 16:15:59 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 16:15:59 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [gpca-ptf] DRAFT PRESS RELEASE ON MAY 1
 LAPD ATTACKS FOR POSSIBLE USE BY THE GPLAC MEDIA COMMITTEE]
Message-ID: <463A6D2F.7070005@charter.net>

While Feinstein and Camejo fight each other, there are some in this 
party who are taking real issues to the street.

The attached is in draft form from the Green Party LA and was posted to 
the Platform Committee email list. Another is in preparation by Cres 
Vellucci, State Press Secretary.

Such a pity that such big egos fight over such little things.



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[gpca-ptf] DRAFT PRESS RELEASE ON MAY 1 LAPD ATTACKS FOR 
POSSIBLE USE BY THE GPLAC MEDIA COMMITTEE
Date: 	Thu, 03 May 2007 16:10:41 -0700
From: 	Shane Que Hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
To: 	gpca-ptf at cagreens.org



*GREEN PARTY OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY PRESS RELEASE MAY 3, 2007 draft

CONTACTS*: ?

*SUBJECT: LAPD ATTACK AT MAY 1 IMMIGRANTS MARCH/RALLY

*The Green Party of LA County deplores the violence used by the Los 
Angeles Police Department

on immigrant supporters, and media people on May 1 at MacArthur Park.


We call for

(1) Investigation of the May 1 violent incidents by a Commission 
independent of the LAPD and the City of Los Angeles to investigate causes.

(2) the Firing of Police Chief Bratton for already assigning blame to 
other than the LAPD before an impartial Commission has investigated (he 
blamed ??certain elements of the crowd 

 [who] began to create a series 
of disturbances")

(3) Investigation as to why the LAPD dispersed a legally permitted rally.

(4) Public disclosure of all LAPD officer names who gave the orders to 
attack, and who inflicted bodily harm during the incidents.

-- 

I have been impressed with the urgency of doing.
Knowing is not enough; we must apply.
Being willing is not enough; 
We must do. ?Leonardo DaVinci
Wesley C. Rolley
17211 Quail Court
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408)778-3024 - http://cagreening.blogspot.com

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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu May  3 20:58:02 2007
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 20:58:02 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [gpca-ptf] DRAFT PRESS RELEASE ON MAY 1
	LAPD ATTACKS FOR POSSIBLE USE BY THE GPLAC MEDIA COMMITTEE]
In-Reply-To: <463A6D2F.7070005@charter.net>
References: <463A6D2F.7070005@charter.net>
Message-ID: <BF4F0950-DC8B-4A2F-8CB3-F25B19411283@cagreens.org>

KPFA reported that footage taken in the street proves unequivocally  
that the police used unprovoked and unnecessary violence against a  
peaceful demonstration.

One wonders what the Controllers will do to prevent street  
videographers and photographers from recording history for and by the  
people Howard Zinn-style!  I guess the next move is theirs, but maybe  
we ought to be planning our response in advance?
Andrea

On May 3, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Wes Rolley wrote:

> While Feinstein and Camejo fight each other, there are some in this  
> party who are taking real issues to the street.
>
> The attached is in draft form from the Green Party LA and was  
> posted to the Platform Committee email list. Another is in  
> preparation by Cres Vellucci, State Press Secretary.
>
> Such a pity that such big egos fight over such little things.
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	[gpca-ptf] DRAFT PRESS RELEASE ON MAY 1 LAPD ATTACKS FOR  
> POSSIBLE USE BY THE GPLAC MEDIA COMMITTEE
> Date: 	Thu, 03 May 2007 16:10:41 -0700
> From: 	Shane Que Hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
> To: 	gpca-ptf at cagreens.org
>
>
>
> *GREEN PARTY OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY PRESS RELEASE MAY 3, 2007 draft
>
> CONTACTS*: ?
>
> *SUBJECT: LAPD ATTACK AT MAY 1 IMMIGRANTS MARCH/RALLY
>
> *The Green Party of LA County deplores the violence used by the Los  
> Angeles Police Department
>
> on immigrant supporters, and media people on May 1 at MacArthur Park.
>
>
> We call for
>
> (1) Investigation of the May 1 violent incidents by a Commission  
> independent of the LAPD and the City of Los Angeles to investigate  
> causes.
>
> (2) the Firing of Police Chief Bratton for already assigning blame  
> to other than the LAPD before an impartial Commission has  
> investigated (he blamed ??certain elements of the crowd
> [who] began to create a series of disturbances")
>
> (3) Investigation as to why the LAPD dispersed a legally permitted  
> rally.
>
> (4) Public disclosure of all LAPD officer names who gave the orders  
> to attack, and who inflicted bodily harm during the incidents.
>
> -- 
>
> I have been impressed with the urgency of doing.
> Knowing is not enough; we must apply.
> Being willing is not enough; We must do. ?Leonardo DaVinci
> Wesley C. Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court
> Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> (408)778-3024 - http://cagreening.blogspot.com
>
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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri May  4 10:25:20 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 10:25:20 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] From World Centric to May Day in Mountain View
Message-ID: <463B6C80.70308@ispwest.com>

This past week has been very busy around here.

Last Friday World Centric hosted a nice party at their warehouse in Palo 
Alto.
I was plesantly surprised by how they have grown, having discovered
a large unfilled niche in the economy, compostable cups, plates, and
other food service items. Find out more about them by visiting this page:

http://tian.greens.org/PaloAlto/WorldCentric/index.html

Then Sunday afternoon there was a ballet festival at the train station
here in Mountain View. It seems like every studio on the peninsula
did something, and a lot of them were fun to watch. I had my camera
there almost out of habit. You can see nice pictures of ballet here:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/Dancers/index.html

Then Tuesday the Latin community had a big Cinco de Mayo thing
on City Hall Plaza. You can check out my pictures of that one here:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/MayDay07/index.html

Then Wednesday maybe a hundred activists got together at Castro
and El Camino to encourage Congress to have a spine, having just
had their deadline vetoed by Bush. I'd put those pictures up, but
I've been slaving over my computer all week... Hope you like the rest.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May  4 22:45:19 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 22:45:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Microsoft in Early Talks With Yahoo
Message-ID: <952265.97805.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/microsoft-rekindles-its-pursuit-of-yahoo/?em&ex=1178510400&en=7ed764b70bdd5510&ei=5087%0A

Microsoft in Early Talks With Yahoo
May 4, 2007, 1:00 pm

Microsoft and Yahoo are in talks about a joint venture
or some other form of cooperation, according to people
briefed on the talks. The discussions are part of an
continuing dialogue that the two companies have been
holding for more than a year, but are still in
preliminary stages, these people say.

The New York Post reported Friday that the companies
were in talks that could lead to a Microsoft
acquisition of Yahoo, sending Yahoo?s stock soaring.
But one person briefed on the talks said that other
forms of cooperation short of a merger were most
likely.

Microsoft and Yahoo have previously considered some
kind of combination, including the sale of a stake in
Yahoo?s search business to Microsoft, but failed to
come to terms. The latest conversation could easily
meet the same fate, as integrating cultures,
personalities and technologies at the two firms would
pose serious challenges.

Shares of Yahoo gained almost 10 percent on the news,
closing at $30.98, up $2.80. Microsoft shares fell to
$30.56, down 41 cents.

Microsoft officials said Friday they would not comment
on speculation about a merger between the two
companies. However, a person who had been briefed on
the companies? ongoing discussions said that a
?creative partnership? was a possibility. One option
that had been discussed was the linking of advertising
networks to generate additional Web traffic, according
to a person briefed on the talks. Another possibility
might be an Internet-only partnership, rather than an
acquisition, this person said.

This person added that there had been no recent
acceleration in the talks.

A Yahoo spokeswoman said the company does not discuss
?rumors and speculation.?

An outright acquisition by Microsoft may encounter
resistance among Yahoo executives who perceive the
company?s single focus on the Internet to be one of
its strengths. They could be wary of becoming part of
Microsoft, a much larger company whose No. 1 business
remains software.

Still, a combination of the two companies? online
business would present a potentially powerful
counterweight to Google?s dominance of the online
search and advertising market.

In March, Heather Bellini, an analyst with UBS, said
that buying Yahoo would ?improve Microsoft?s position
dramatically as well as alter the competitive dynamics
of the search industry.? But Ms. Bellini also
suggested that acquiring Yahoo could create
?potentially unmanageable risks? for Microsoft.
Attempts to integrate Microsoft?s advertising platform
with Yahoo?s could falter; key employees might jump
ship. With all these potential problems, Ms. Bellini
said a partnership, as opposed to a merger, between
Microsoft and Yahoo could be a better plan.

On Friday, however, Benjamin Schachter, also an
analyst with UBS, said he had grown ?incrementally
more bullish? on a possible merger between the two
companies, ?given there are so few quality Internet
assets available and no shortage of money or strategic
buyers looking at the space.?

Over the past few years, Google has steadily increased
its share of all the searches conducted online. In
contrast, Yahoo?s share has held steady over the past
year, while Microsoft?s has slipped, despite heavy
investments to improve its search technology. As of
March, Google accounted for 54 percent of all online
searches in the United States, more than double
Yahoo?s 22 percent and more than five times
Microsoft?s 10 percent, according to
Nielsen/NetRatings.

Of every $100 dollars spent in online advertising in
2006, Google took in $25, while Yahoo got $18 and
Microsoft received less than $7, according to
eMarketer, a research firm. And Google?s dominance is
expected to grow: the search giant is expected to
capture 32 percent of online ad dollars this year,
eMarketer said.

Both Yahoo and Microsoft were interested in buying
DoubleClick, the online advertising services company,
before Google swooped in with a winning $3.1 billion
bid. The deal, which is expected to strengthen
Google?s online dominance even further, has been
criticized by Microsoft and others, and may
have been a catalyst for the renewal of talks between
it and Yahoo.

Yahoo and Microsoft each own rival Internet portals
that cater to users with an array of services, ranging
from news and entertainment to e-mail and instant
messaging. Yet the two companies have a long history
of
partnerships. Most notably, Yahoo provided search and
advertising services to Microsoft until last year,
when the software giant deployed its own search
service.

Next week, Microsoft is hosting an annual two-day
summit for online advertisers in Seattle at which
Yahoo?s chief executive, Terry Semel, is scheduled to
give the closing keynote speech. Mr. Semel appeared at
the same event two years ago, and his appearance this
year has been scheduled for some weeks.

Despite continued skepticism on Wall Street, Yahoo
executives in recent months have sounded increasingly
confident about the company?s prospects. They have
said repeatedly that a new advertising system, dubbed
Project Panama, was performing well following its
rollout in February and would start delivering
improvements to Yahoo?s bottom line later this year.

The company has also made significant moves to expand
its online advertising business beyond its own vast
array of Web sites. On Monday, it acquired Right
Media, an advertising marketplace used by about 1,000
online publishers to sell advertising space in real
time. It has signed deals to sell graphical ads on
sites such as eBay, Comcast and a consortium of
publishers representing more than 260 newspapers.

Yahoo is no small target; it has a market
capitalization of about $44 billion. A deal for Yahoo
would be the largest ever attempted by Microsoft,
whose market cap is about $290 billion. And the very
different corporate culture at the two companies has
long been cited as a major reason such a deal may not
work.

In an interview with the New Yorker last year, Mr.
Semel, a former film industry executive, swatted down
the idea that Yahoo had considered an outright sale to
Microsoft. Instead, he said that they tossed around
the notion of Microsoft buying a stake in Yahoo?s
search business ? a transaction that he compared to an
amputation.

Henry Blodget, the former Internet stock analyst who
runs the Internet Outsider blog, wrote Friday that
combining Microsoft and Yahoo?s search businesses
would be a smart strategic move. But from a corporate
culture standpoint, it would be disatrous, he said.
The Internet has always been a secondary focus at
Microsoft, whose cash cow is the Windows operating
system and its suite of applications. ?If Microsoft
buys Yahoo, Microsoft should immediately spin the
Yahoo-MSN business out as a separate company,? Mr.
Blodget wrote. ?If it doesn?t, both Yahoo and MSN will
die.?

? Miguel Helft, Andrew Ross Sorkin, John Markoff and
Peter Edmonston contributed reporting

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May  4 22:57:51 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 22:57:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The Movement to Impeach Bush/Cheney May be
	Unstoppable
Message-ID: <897319.14164.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_len_hart_070503_the_movement_to_impe.htm

May 3, 2007 at 07:51:08

The Movement to Impeach Bush/Cheney May be Unstoppable

by Len Hart 

Just recently one may have despaired that Bush would
get away with murder. There seemed little hope of
impeaching him despite his crimes, despite the growing
dissatisfaction with his missrule. That Bush lived in
the White House mocked the very idea of responsible
and democratic government.

What a difference a few weeks have made. Topping the
news was Bush's veto of the military appropriation's
bill. Everyone expected it. Not expected was the
effect it's had. Bush, who takes false pride in being
"resolute" may have thought his veto would put the
Democratic majority in Congress on the defensive and
shift the agenda back to the White House.

It didn't work out that way. The real effect is two
fold: The White House must now play ball with Congress
(the Democrats) if it hopes to get a bill at all.
Secondly, Bush is seen to have played politics with
the lives of American troops. Never had this point
been spelled out more forcefully and more dramatically
than in the following letter from one of the
"commanders" that Bush likes to say he listens to but,
in fact, doesn't give a damn.

General Eaton's Letter to President Bush on Veto

    May 1, 2007

    President George W. Bush
    The White House
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
    Washington, DC 20500

    Dear Mr. President,

    Today, in your veto message regarding the
bipartisan legislation just passed on Operation Iraqi
Freedom, you asserted that you so decided because you
listen to your commanders on the ground.

    Respectfully, as your former commander on the
ground, your administration did not listen to our best
advice. In fact, a number of my fellow Generals were
forced out of their jobs, because they did not tell
you what you wanted to hear -- most notably General
Eric Shinseki, whose foresight regarding troop levels
was advice you rejected, at our troops' peril.

    The legislation you vetoed today represented a
course of action that is long overdue. This war can no
longer be won by the military alone. We must bring to
bear the entire array of national power - military,
diplomatic and economic. The situation demands a surge
in diplomacy, and pressure on the Iraqi government to
fix its internal affairs. Further, the Army and Marine
Corps are on the verge of breaking - or have been
broken already - by the length and intensity of this
war. This tempo is not sustainable - and you have
failed to grow the ground forces to meet national
security needs. We must begin the process of bringing
troops home, and repairing and growing our military,
if we are ever to have a combat-ready force for the
long war on terror ahead of us.

    The bill you rejected today sets benchmarks for
success that the Iraqis would have to meet, and puts
us on a course to redeploy our troops. It stresses the
need for sending troops into battle only when they are
rested, trained and equipped. In my view, and in the
view of many others in the military that I know, that
is the best course of action for our security.

    As someone who served this nation for decades, I
have the utmost respect for the office you hold.
However, as a man of conscience, I could not sit idly
by as you told the American people today that your
veto was based on the recommendations of military men.
Your administration ignored the advice of our
military's finest minds before, and I see no evidence
that you are listening to them now.

    I urge you to reconsider your position, and work
with Congress to pass a bill that achieves the goals
laid out above.

    Respectfully,

    Major General Paul D. Eaton, USA, Retired

There is also the statement by Maj. Gen. John Batiste.

    The President vetoed our troops and the American
people. His stubborn commitment to a failed strategy
in Iraq is incomprehensible. He committed our great
military to a failed strategy in violation of basic
principles of war. His failure to mobilize the nation
to defeat world wide Islamic extremism is tragic. We
deserve more from our commander-in-chief and his
administration.

    --Maj. Gen. John Batiste, USA, Ret.


Why will we, the people, impeach George W. Bush?
First, we are sovereign, not Bush, a fact Bush never
mastered. Bush works for us, not the other way 'round.

Secondly, Bush violated a trust that is as sacred as
possible in a secular society. That is the trust given
him by a free electorate. That Bush does not care
about those values is the most compelling reason he
must go. By refusing to investigate the events of 911,
Bush broke with precedent established with Pearl
Harbor.

What did Bush have to fear if the official conspiracy
theory involving a conspiracy of middle eastern
terrorists was correct? Since when are crimes not
investigated?

In the next several weeks, possibly months, when
Articles of Impeachment are drawn up, specific charges
against Bush will be made public. Bush's crimes will
prove to be not merely political, they will include
charges of a criminal nature.


Bush will be impeached because he made of us a fascist
nation. He is, at his hollow core, an anti-American
"President" who despises Democracy and prefers a
dictatorship. Real Americans find this notion
repugant, hateful and despicable. Clearly, Bush did
not come to power because he understood the people.
Rather, he was appointed by an elite cabal with
intricate connections to the Military/Industrial
complex warned of by President Dwight Eisenhower.

Following are some of the characterisitics of a
fascist state:

        * The truth is revealed once and only once.

          Bush would have us believe that he was
appointed by God. It doesn't matter whether Bush
sincerely believed himself on a divine mission. I
could not worship any "God" who would appoint Bush his
messenger.
        * Parliamentary democracy is by definition
rotten because it doesn't represent the voice of the
people, which is that of the sublime leader.

          This is related to the above characteristic
of fascism. A fascist leader, a "Fuhrer", does not
merely enforce the laws, der Fuhrer is the source of
law. This is repugnant to American values which derive
from a sovereign named in the Constitution itself. The
people.
        * Doctrine outpoints reason, and science is
always suspect.

          The Bush regime is notoriously anti-science
with regard to climate change, stem cell research,
ecology, and education.
        * Critical thought is the province of
degenerate intellectuals, who betray the culture and
subvert traditional values.

          The Third Reich defined itself with its
crackdown on intellectuals and not only becuase many
of them were Jews. Historian Richard Hofstadter
identified in America a virulent resentment of
intellectuals and traced its origin to the early,
colonial churches. More recently, the troglodytes
found in Bush, a fuhrer.
        * The national identity is provided by the
nation's enemies.

          This is the role played by the war on
terrorism, a page out of Hermann Goring's playbook.
Every tyrant has sought to rally his subjects by
exploiting fear, hate, and prejudice.
        * Argument is tantamount to treason.

          Silencing dissent makes Der Fuhrer
all-powerful but only initially. In the end, it
deprives the tyrant of crucial information. The
fascist state oftens falls by virtue of its own
ignorance. Bush, for example, has ignored his
commanders. Reality will overtake delusion. His
would-be dictatorship will fall.
        * Perpetually at war, the state must govern
with the instruments of fear. Citizens do not act;
they play the supporting role of "the people" in the
grand opera that is the state.



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Take action -- click here to contact your local
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Len Hart is a Houston based film/video producer
specializing in shorts and full-length documentaries.
He is a former major market and network correspondent;
credits include CBS, ABC-TV and UPI. He maintains the
progressive blog: The Existentialist Cowboy

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May  4 23:08:16 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 23:08:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] CA Dem Convention PDAers Place Impeachment Cards
	on Pelosi Dinner Table
Message-ID: <37482.19719.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_miriam_r_070504_group_places_impeach.htm

May 4, 2007 at 06:14:32

Group Places Impeachment Cards on Pelosi Dinner Table

by Miriam Raftery     

Groups believe impeachment is 'more on the table than
people think'

While House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has famously stated
that impeachment proceedings against President Bush or
Vice President Cheney are "off the table," many
activists feel that the tide is beginning to turn.

For a previous report on this past weekend's
California Democratic Convention in San Diego, RAW
STORY obtained responses about impeachment directly
from Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT) and 2008
candidates New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson and
former Alaskan Senator Mike Gravel. A blogger present
at the convention also helped pose the question to
Senators Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and former North
Carolina Senator John Edwards (full article at this
link).

While Gravel indicated that impeachment "will come, in
due course," Dodd told RAW STORY that having "been
down that road" before with former President Clinton,
he believes that "[i]t sucks all of the oxygen out of
the air.?

However, on Sunday, April 29, California delegates and
state party members sent a powerful message to Pelosi
and Congressional Democrats. ?In a resolution affirmed
by the full state party convention Sunday, the
Democrats called on the U.S. Congress to use its
subpoena power to investigate misdeeds of President
Bush and Vice President Cheney ? and to hold the
Administration accountable 'with appropriate remedies
and punishment, including impeachment,'" a letter to
Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) members
obtained by RAW STORY states.

The letter continues, "The delegate insurgency was
coordinated by Progressive Democrats of America and
its allies. While Speaker Pelosi had declared
impeachment 'off the table,' the Democratic Party
rank-and-file has demonstrated its commitment to
putting the issue 'on' the table. And it's no longer
just the rank-and-file: Even among the members of the
convention's Resolutions Committee (appointed by the
California Party chair), the impeachment resolution
was the top vote-getter (tied with one other
resolution).? (Read the full resolution text here)

Protesters inside and outside the convention also sent
a message to Presidential aspirants and Speaker
Pelosi. An estimated 200 impeachment supporters lined
both sides of the street outside the convention center
on Saturday in anticipation of Pelosi?s arrival.
Demonstrators were barred from entering the building,
but PDA members inside posted prominent impeachment
banners and wore bright orange shirts urging
impeachment.

Protesters also staged an ?Impeach on the Beach?
activity at nearby Torrey Pines, but cloud cover
prevented an airplane from flying over to photograph
the message spelled out with 250 human bodies.

?One third of those were Move On members,? said Will
McRae, MoveOn coordinator for San Diego County. ?For
MoveOn to pretend impeachment isn?t on the table is
the same as Pelosi. They need to put it on their
website [for a vote]. We owe it to our members.?
DFA head: "More on the table than people think"

Jim Dean, head of Democracy for America and brother of
Democratic National Committee chair Howard Dean, said
he understands the reluctance of Pelosi to lead
Congress into impeachment proceedings during her first
100 days in office. ?We took control of Congress
because people are fed up and want us to get things
done,? he observed, adding that impeachment
proceedings would bog down Congress.

But he noted, ?Just letting these guys off is setting
a bad precedent.? Asked about the prospect of
impeachment, he observed, ?I think it?s more on the
table than people think.?

PDA president Tim Carpenter called passage of the
impeachment resolution by California delegates ?the
culmination of one month of effort by PDA to put the
issue of investigating, accountability and
impeachment? on the table. ?I?m a California native
and an elected central committee member,? added
Carpenter, who made ?a lot of cell phone calls? to win
support for the measure.

On Saturday, Carpenter revealed, he met with Pelosi.
?I think the fact that she met with us shows she is a
listener,? he said, but he added, ?We agreed to
disagree.?

Impeachment is a constitutional imperative, he
believes. ?If we don?t begin to talk about
impeachment, the next president will be allowed to
torture, do wiretapping, lying, and engage in
manipulation of everything in signing statements,? the
PDA leader predicted.

At a dinner honoring Pelosi Saturday evening,
pro-impeachment activists slipped elegant placecards
onto each place at the table. The cards read:
Remember, We?re the Deciders.

 Impeachment is on the table.

Investigate and Impeach Cheney and Bush!

Secret Service agents blocked Jeeni Criscenzo, the
endorsed Democratic Congressional candidate who ran
against Darrell Issa, from unfurling a banner at the
dinner which read:
Impeach Bush-Cheney Now

?Where is our freedom?? asked Criscenzo. ?Thousands of
people have signed this banner and they won?t let us
present it to the Speaker quietly and respectfully.?
Criscenzo added that she ?might just go to Washington
for Mother?s Day? to try and present the banner to Pelosi.

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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Sat May  5 00:05:27 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 03:05:27 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [SBM] Minutemen in San Mateo tomorrow:
	Counter Protest
Message-ID: <d02.ed0d412.336d86b7@aol.com>

Hi all,

Please forward this information to everyone and group you know.

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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Sun May  6 00:52:18 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 03:52:18 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] PROTEST THE MINUTEMEN IN CAMPBELL!!!
Message-ID: <ce7.ec58348.336ee332@aol.com>

Hi All,

Please help with this counter protest to the Minutemen racist protest.  This 
is taking place down the street from where I live.  I do not want the 
Minutemen protesting in my neighborhood but we do have free speech so the next best 
thing is to counter-protest.  Please join us on Saturday May 12 we need to raise 
our voices in protest.
David Ledesma from Think First, the counter-recruitment organization and the 
one-man vigil at the corner of Winchester & Stevens Creek Blvd. in Santa Clara 
is helping
organize the counter-protest.  The Raging Grannies will be there also.

Merriam

The following is from David Ledesma:

Subj:   [SBM] PROTEST THE MINUTEMEN IN CAMPBELL!!!? 
Date:   5/5/2007 5:53:55 PM Pacific Standard Time   
From:   svtriathlete at hotmail.com    
To: sbm at lists.riseup.net, vfp_101 at yahoogroups.com   
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    



On Saturday, May 12, the racist anti-MEXICAN-immigrant Minutemen will be 
spreading
their message of hate at the corner Bascom Ave. and Hamilton Ave. in 
Campbell,
12noon-2pm.

Join us as we organize a massive anti-racist Protest against the minutemen 
message
of hate, at 11:30am-2pm.? We can't let these messengers of hate go 
unchallenged in
OUR community!? "No Human Being Is Illegal!" -- "We Didn't Cross The Border, 
The
Border Crossed Us!" -- "Racism Divides America"


Here's the link to their racist website, 
http://www.illegalimmigrantprotest.com (view
their "Rally Photos" from their San Jose' and Santa Clara events last year, 
click on
the "California" link, scroll down)

For their Campbell protest, their main message is a pardon for two Border 
Agents, Ramos
and Compean and Sheriff Gonzales, "The Texas 3", view their announcement 
here:
http://www.goldengateminutemen.net/events.html

Read an article on the conviction of Ramos and Compean here:
http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_4141562


STOP THE MESSAGE OF RACISM AND HATRED IN OUR COMMUNITY!!!
-- PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY --

-D.




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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun May  6 10:13:06 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 10:13:06 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] A Global Democratic Movement
Message-ID: <463E0CA2.3030303@earthlink.net>


Paul Hawken's positive vision:

     http://alternet.org/envirohealth/51088/

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun May  6 18:50:51 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 18:50:51 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cockburn on Global Warming
Message-ID: <463E85FB.9040006@earthlink.net>


We may be hearing about this, so here is some advance
information.

Alexander Cockburn essentially says that current thinking
about global warming is bunk:

     http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070514/cockburn
     http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn04282007.html

The right wing is picking up on this because Cockburn is
considered a leftie.  I am not including links, but you can find
them by just googling "Alexander Cockburn global warming".


This response is more credible, in my opinion:

     (A complex analysis of what is correct and what is incorrect
      in Cockburn's article.  And the most important thing is that
      it is insufficient to negate current thinking re global warming.)
     http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1178040346.html
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_michael__070429_misunderstanding_glo.htm
http://www.climatologynews.com/story.asp?ID=195427&Title=Misunderstanding%20Global%20Warming:%20Alexander%20Cockburn%20versus%20Global%20...


Znet has Cockburn's original article and a response by Monbiot.

     http://www.zmag.org/debatesglobalwarming.html


Maybe more later, right now my computer is overheating.


Gerry



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun May  6 18:59:17 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:59:17 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd [gpca-cocos] [GPCA Official Notice] Agenda
	Packets Available
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun May  6 19:09:00 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 22:09:00 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary Agenda Packet Review Meeting Next Sunday
	Afternoon in San Jose
Message-ID: <d2c.b7b9ff3.336fe43c@aol.com>

At Thursday's GPSCC General Meeting we agreed to meet at my house to review  
the plenary agenda proposals for the San Francisco GPCA meetings May  26-27th. 
 That meeting is scheduled for Sunday, May 13th, 2-4 pm at 867  North Fifth 
Street (between Mission and Hedding), San Jose
 
Highway access from Routes 87, 880, 101 and 680 (Berreyessa becomes  Hedding)
 
Reasonably near Civic Center lightrail station and bus routes 36, 66 and  62
 
Call for more info (408/295-9353)
 
People who agreed to be Delegates:  Drew, Warner, Jim Stauffer, and  Tian
People who agreed to be Alternates:  Cameron and Merriam
(Not Official Notes; My Recollection)
Per Above/Per More Often Than Preferred -- The Delegation is unbalanced  
genderwise
 
I posted an announcement about the agenda packet separately.   Warner



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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May  7 15:45:47 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 15:45:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Combat Vet Refuses to Return to Iraq,
	to Speak in Palo Alto, Tue May 15 7P, 1st Pres
Message-ID: <211193.83670.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Tuesday May 15 - Palo Alto 7 PM at the First
Presbyterian Church (Fellowship Hall), 1140 Cowper,
Palo Alto. Featuring Camilo Mej?a. Sponsored by
Pennisula Peace and Justice Center. More info: Paul
George 650.326.8837

Military veterans speak out against war

Camilo Mej?a was one of the first Iraq combat veterans
to refuse to return to Iraq and served almost nine
months in prison for his stand against war. In his
upcoming book, "Road from ar Ramadi; The Private
Rebellion of Staff Sergeant Camilo Mej?a," Camilo
gives an inside view of what it felt like to be a
soldier on the ground in Iraq. Camilo's book will be
available at his events.

Iraq combat veterans, Agust?n Aguayo and Camilo Mej?a,
will be joined by fellow war resisters Pablo Paredes
and Robert Zabala for a series of Northern California
events May 9-18. (Calendar of events)

http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/303/1/

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From cbrouillet at igc.org  Tue May  8 07:03:27 2007
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 07:03:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Press Release 5/9 Palo Alto Impeachment Rally
Message-ID: <E1HlQHS-0004Vs-00@pop02.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

(Feel free to modify and tweak this and get it out to your media contacts...)

Press Release
May 7, 2007
Media Contact-
Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance, 
http://www.communitycurrency.org/impeach.html
Carol Brouillet-650-857-0927, cbrouillet at igc.org

              Heroes Rally, Sing, and March for Impeachment and Peace

     Superman, Wonder Woman, and Spiderman will rally at 1:00 p.m. at
Lytton Plaza in Palo Alto on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 with other heroic
citizens to demand the impeachment of Bush and Cheney.  During the rally,
musician August Bullock will sing "Heroes of America"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYgYVcFzw9s, which inspired the theme for this
month's rally, and the Raging Grannies will also perform.

     After the music, "Heroic Citizens for Impeachment" awards will be
presented to Brad Newsham, who organized the two major "Beach Impeach"
events in San Francisco, inspiring Impeachment spellings across the country;
Cynthia Peterson from Code Pink, who organized vigils at Nancy Pelosi's
mansion as well as rallies and marches for impeachment; Carol Wolman
( http://www.impeachbush-cheney.com), who ran for Congress in 2006 on an
Impeachment platform; and Don Spark from World Can't Wait, who helped
organize major impeachment events and street actions.

     At 2:00 p.m. the heroes will call for impeachment as they march
through downtown Palo Alto to Congresswoman Anna Eshoo's office at
698 Emerson Street. The rally at Lytton Plaza, which will include
entertainment and  refreshments, is open to the public.

      The heroes in Palo Alto are not the only ones calling for impeachment.
Congressman Dennis Kucinich introduced articles of impeachment against
Vice President Cheney on April 24th. The two cosponsors are US Reps.
Wm. Lacy Clay (D-MO) and Janice Schakowsky (D-IL). Congressman John
Murtha mentioned impeachment as an option on CBS's Face the Nation:

       "We need to make this president understand, Mr. President,
       the public has spoken. There's three ways or four ways to
        influence a president.  One is popular opinion, the election,
        third is impeachment and fourth is the purse."

      When Bob Schieffer pressed him on whether impeachment was a serious
      option on the table, Murtha responded, "I'm just saying that's one
      way to influence a president."

     On April 28th, "the national day of impeachment" in over 125 locations
across the country, citizens spelled out "IMPEACH" to get their message
across to the public, the press and the Congress. Over 1500 people
gathered on Ocean Beach in San Francisco to spell out "IMPEACH NOW!"
and then "PEACE NOW!" This demonstration, dramatically visible from the
air, was followed by a parade to Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco mansion for
an impeachment rally. Jacob Park's website for the impeachment actions
at http://www.a28.org  was overwhelmed by photos, videos, and reports of
actions from around the U.S. as well as other countries, including Italy
and Egypt.

     A concerted effort is underway to pressure Congress and the press to
recognize and stop the criminal activities, including war, being carried out
by the US government.

     Congresswoman Eshoo has repeatedly rejected calls for impeachment,
claiming that removing the President would tear the country apart. Brouillet
and other activists intend to remind her that her oath of office requires her
to defend the Constitution against all enemies, even when those who
threaten the Constitution include the President and Vice President.

      Sponsors of the event include the Northern California 9/11 
Truth Alliance,
The Santa Clara County Green Party, the Silicon Valley Impeachment Coalition.

                                       ###



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May  8 17:30:29 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:30:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sunnyvale Housing and Human Services Commision
	needs applicants
Message-ID: <651745.25085.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Need Applicants for HHSC

Independent-minded people needed to apply for the
Housing and Human Services Commission.  There's a
recruitment on right now.  The deadline is May 11,
2007.  

http://sunnyvale.ca.gov/City+Council/Boards+and+Commissions/Housing/

Drew

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 10 15:22:28 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:22:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] MoveOn and others (Fwd: Re: [usgp-media] Fwd:
	Nat'l Security Operatives in "Peace" Movement)
Message-ID: <192828.27287.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Carl Romanelli <cjromanellii at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Carl Romanelli <cjromanellii at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [usgp-media] Fwd: Nat'l Security
> Operatives in "Peace" Movement
> To: Media US Greens <usgp-media at gp-us.org>
> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Agreed.  During Nixon there was often infiltration
> by FBI, CIA, etc. into the anti war movement of the
> 1960's.  The most prominent example is Ira Einhorn. 
> During the 1980's Abby Hoffman had indicated to me
> that infiltration was the single most damaging
> factor in the demise of the peace movement's
> political momentum.  Today, I believe that
> protecting against infiltration is key to the Greens
> having a chance at viability.  A difficult task,
> considering we are an open party.  Anyway, thanks to
> Howie and Scott for posting these comments.
>   Carl Romanelli/PA
> 
> 
>    
>   
> 
> Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   From Howie Hawkins ...
> 
> It's not just the Democrats who are trying to
> co-opt antiwar movement. So is the national
> security apparatus. Check out this paragraph in
> Sunday's NY Times article I posted before.
> 
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/06/washington/06left.html?hp
> NY Times, May 6, 2007
> With New Clout, Antiwar Groups Push Democrats 
> by Michael Luo
> 
> "The National Security Network, a collection of
> liberal-leaning military and foreign policy
> experts headed by Rand Beers, former national
> security adviser to the presidential campaign of
> Senator John Kerry, has deployed former generals
> and officials to persuade individual lawmakers."
> 
> Not only was Rand Beers national security advisor
> to Kerry. Before that he was counter-terrorism
> advisor to Bush as a member of the National
> Security Council, which he had been a member of
> since Reagan. Under both Presidents Clinton and
> Bush, he was also Assistant Secretary of State
> for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement
> Affairs, where he helped initiate and implement
> the genocidal coca crop aerial fumigation program
> against poor peasants in Columbia. For more
> details see
> .
> 
> Now, Beers is coordinating "antiwar" lobbying
> with Democratic leaders and the Dem-oriented
> "peace" groups like MoveOn, Win Without War,
> USAction (i.e., Citizen Action), and SEIU. It's
> not suprising that Iraqization of the occupation,
> like Nixon's Vietnamization of that occupation --
> and not US withdrawal -- is the their real
> agenda.
> 
> -- Howie Hawkins, Syracuse NY

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 10 15:23:37 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment BOYCOTT IMPACT
In-Reply-To: <80b0bd280705101402kcb756feyd01522fd4468c235@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <330686.27648.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Lew Brown <boycottacrossamerica at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for your patience, the final report on our
> boycott will be out
> soon...new data is arriving and I have to find the
> time to pull it all
> together.  I am posting for your amusement one early
> report on retail sales
> during April-we have flexed our muscles people and
> have demonstrated the
> ability to cost corporate interests BILLIONS of
> dollars in sales.  With this
> in mind I am busy preparing recommendations for
> broadening our base of
> support and using economic force as an alternative
> to other forms of force
> in gaining the desired goals of peace and
> impeachment.  We are more powerful
> than we know-the dollar amounts reflected in this
> report are, respectively a
> $1.517 Billion dollar downturn overall during April
> and a $740 Million
> dollar "slump" during our boycott week.
> 
> Lew
> 
> Redbook: US Retail Sales Down 4.1% First 3 Wks Apr
> Vs March
> 
> Tue, May 1 2007, 12:55 GMT
> http://www.djnewswires.com/eu
> Redbook: US Retail Sales Down 4.1% First 3 Wks Apr
> Vs March
> 
> NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--U.S. chain store sales fell
> 4.1% in the first three
> weeks of April compared with the previous month,
> according to Redbook
> Research's latest indicator of national retail sales
> released Tuesday.
> 
> The fall of the index was deeper than the targeted
> 3.7% decrease, according
> to the report.
> 
> The Johnson Redbook Index also showed seasonally
> adjusted sales in the
> three-week period rose 0.1%, compared with the
> targeted 0.5% increase.
> 
> Redbook said on an unadjusted basis, sales in the
> week ended April 28 were
> up 0.2% compared with a 0.2% decline the previous
> week.
> 


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 10 15:26:14 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:26:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Barbara Boxer: I'm running for re-election
Message-ID: <680972.65607.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Barbara Boxer <info at barbaraboxer.com> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 19:33:25 GMT
> From: "Barbara Boxer" <info at barbaraboxer.com>
> Subject: I'm running for re-election
> 
> Dear (JamBoi),
> 
> As I stood on the Senate floor recently, calling on
> President
> Bush to change course in Iraq and start bringing our
> troops
> home, I realized that this President has had his way
> for so
> long, with a subservient rubber-stamp Republican
> Congress, that
> he must be challenged day after day on his
> destructive policies.
> What's more, we know that it will take years to
> restore America
> as a country of hope, opportunity, and fairness,
> once again
> regaining our place as a moral world leader. 
> 
> That's why I am writing to you to let you know, with
> deep
> commitment and excitement, that I have decided to
> run again for
> the United States Senate!
> 
> I can promise you, the radical right-wing forces
> that support
> the status quo will come after me -- in fact they
> already are.
> Because I am a leader on ending the Iraq war (and
> never voted
> for it in the first place), because I am pushing
> hard to pass
> meaningful global warming legislation as Chairman of
> the
> Environment and Public Works Committee, because I am
> the author
> of the bill to keep Roe v. Wade the law of the land,
> and because
> I am not afraid of their attack dogs, I am a prime
> target of the
> right-wing machine.
> 
> That's where you come in. I need you now more than
> ever before
> -- to kick-off our campaign with a fundraising drive
> that is so
> strong, and so broad, that the radical right-wing
> knows we're
> gearing up to fight.
> 
> Help me get my 2010 re-election campaign off to a
> strong start
> -- please contribute today!
> 
>
https://secure.ga6.org/08/boxer2010_contribute/nP1wOAqS1gLbJ?source=10for10
> 
> I wear these right-wing attacks as a badge of honor
> because I
> learned early on that their goal is to put fear in
> the hearts of
> those of us who will tell the truth, as I did on
> this war --
> truth to power. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and
> Michael Savage
> may spew their venom, but with you by my side, their
> virulent
> attacks just fall away.
> 
> Remember when I told Secretary of State Condoleezza
> Rice that
> "your loyalty to the mission you were given, to sell
> this war,
> overwhelmed your respect for the truth?" Well click
> here to
> listen to Bill O'Reilly's diatribe in response:
> 
>
https://secure.ga6.org/08/boxer2010_contribute_rw/nP1wOAqS1gLbJ?source=10for10
> 
> I call this to your attention just so you hear an
> example of the
> attacks, distortions, and lies the right-wing throws
> my way.
> With you by my side, they can't defeat me -- much to
> their
> dismay -- even though they try to tear me down every
> time I run.
> But I need your help to keep fighting back.
> 
> Help me fight back against the right-wing attacks
> that are
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> have
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> many Senate
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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Fri May 11 01:03:02 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 04:03:02 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] No Gas May 15th ...
Message-ID: <c4b.147c26f4.33757d36@aol.com>

Hi All,

A friend of mine who is not an activist sent me this information.? This is a 
call for all internet users to not buy gas on May 15th. I don't know where 
this idea originated or who is calling for this action.? However it makes good 
sense to me and that is why I am sending it out to the list.? Please pass it on 
and let's do keep $2,292,000,000.00 out of the oil companies pockets on May 
15.

Merriam 



> ''Don't pump gas on May 15th" 
> 
> 
> In April 1997, there was a "gas out" conducted nationwide in 
> protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices dropped 30 cents a gallon 
> overnight. 
> 
> On May 15th 2007, all internet users are to not go to a gas 
> station in protest of high gas prices. Gas is now over $3.00 a gallon in 
> most places. 
> There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the internet 
> network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up. 
> 
> If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take 
> $2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companies 
> pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on May 
> 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil industry for 
> at least one day. 
> 
> 
> ?
> 
> 



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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 11 11:00:54 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 11:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] No Gas May 15th ...
In-Reply-To: <c4b.147c26f4.33757d36@aol.com>
Message-ID: <982742.61108.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Great idea!

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

--- MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> A friend of mine who is not an activist sent me this
> information.  This is a 
> call for all internet users to not buy gas on May
> 15th. I don't know where 
> this idea originated or who is calling for this
> action.  However it makes good 
> sense to me and that is why I am sending it out to
> the list.  Please pass it on 
> and let's do keep $2,292,000,000.00 out of the oil
> companies pockets on May 
> 15.
> 
> Merriam 
> 
> 
> 
> > ''Don't pump gas on May 15th" 
> > 
> > 
> > In April 1997, there was a "gas out" conducted
> nationwide in 
> > protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices dropped 30
> cents a gallon 
> > overnight. 
> > 
> > On May 15th 2007, all internet users are to not go
> to a gas 
> > station in protest of high gas prices. Gas is now
> over $3.00 a gallon in 
> > most places. 
> > There are 73,000,000+ American members currently
> on the internet 
> > network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50
> dollars to fill up. 
> > 
> > If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th,
> it would take 
> > $2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of
> the oil companies 
> > pockets for just one day, so please do not go to
> the gas station on May 
> > 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle
> Eastern oil industry for 
> > at least one day. 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 13 10:06:13 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:06:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] TODAY Plenary Agenda Packet Review Meeting
	Afternoon in San Jose
In-Reply-To: <d2c.b7b9ff3.336fe43c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <217578.34420.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Reminder...

--- WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:

> At Thursday's GPSCC General Meeting we agreed to
> meet at my house to review  
> the plenary agenda proposals for the San Francisco
> GPCA meetings May  26-27th. 
>  That meeting is scheduled for Sunday, May 13th, 2-4
> pm at 867  North Fifth 
> Street (between Mission and Hedding), San Jose
>  
> Highway access from Routes 87, 880, 101 and 680
> (Berreyessa becomes  Hedding)
>  
> Reasonably near Civic Center lightrail station and
> bus routes 36, 66 and  62
>  
> Call for more info (408/295-9353)
>  
> People who agreed to be Delegates:  Drew, Warner,
> Jim Stauffer, and  Tian
> People who agreed to be Alternates:  Cameron and
> Merriam
> (Not Official Notes; My Recollection)
> Per Above/Per More Often Than Preferred -- The
> Delegation is unbalanced  
> genderwise
>  
> I posted an announcement about the agenda packet
> separately.   Warner
> 
> 
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 13 21:56:56 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 21:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] South Bay 9/11 Truth group starting!
Message-ID: <741075.1623.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I've been talking to Carol Brouillet and Brian Good
about getting a South Bay 9/11 Truth group going in
the South Bay, and what do ya know but along comes an
e-mail out of the blue for an activist Don White that
has just relocated here from San Diego and has energy
to get this thing rolling. Enjoy and please pass this
invite along to others who might enjoy it too...

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

-----------------
Hi I saw your profile on meetup.com and thought you
may be interested in joining our group in the San
Jose/South Bay area. We had our very first meet up
last friday the 11th and it was a great turn out! For
picture of our event and to join our group 
visit http://9-11.meetup.com/315

Our group is to help raise awareness about election
fraud, patriot act(s), military commissions act,
government fraud and treason,dangers of vaccines,
corruption of media, and all things that others don't
receive news about in the mainstream. 
We are uniting all groups against Bush, against the
war, against the above mentioned things and are very
open to any ideas and information that needs to be
spread. We are all fighting the same evils in
different areas and need to unite as one to hepl each
other out and increase in numbers. 

If you are interested in joining our group for
updates, or can even make it to our events where we
either protest or simply hand out dvd's, pamphlets,
fliers, stickers or just about anything you can think
of to help wake up the masses. Please visit
http://9-11.meetup.com/315 and join the group to
receive word of further actions and information. We
meet on the 11th of every month and will also meet in
between at a possible restaurant or other place to
talk, enjoy ourselves, and to organize for the next
coming 11th.

Look forward to seeing you in the group! And if not,
hope you have a good day or night and take care of
yourself (and others!)

**brainphreak** aka Don White
www.theblackpacket.com
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Sun May 13 22:02:56 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 22:02:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "The Healthcare Solution: California OneCare"
Message-ID: <4647ED80.6030008@freeshell.org>

Green Friends,

YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED TO ATTEND the Friday, May 18, Mountain View
public forum on "The Healthcare Solution: California OneCare."  The two
hour program will include  the viewing of the 22 minute documentary
featuring Cal. Senate Bill 840 - Single Payer Health Care.

The free event will convene at 7:30 pm, in the spacious Willow Park
Condo CLUBHOUSE, located at the intersection of Middlefield Road and
Moffett Blvd. (Enter from Moffett Blvd.)  Parking is available on the
Willow Park side of Moffett Blvd. and in unsheltered parking lot spaces.

Following the DVD documentary, three area people (Including Dr. Mike 
Fischetti and Dana St, George) will share their personal experiences and 
thoughts about the  current California health care system as compared 
with the benefits  single payer health can offer.

One hour will be reserved for a Q and A open-mike discussion.

Light refreshments will be served.

The public forum will be presented by the ad hoc, nonprofit,
nongovernmental,   "OneCareNow"   statewide volunter organization.

(The Clubhouse is not wheel chair accessible.)

More information is available at (650) 691-1215.



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 09:12:44 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:12:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Health Com. Related-Events.: May 17 SJ: Ending
	Homelessness & Health Care Town Meeting
Message-ID: <302914.51949.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In addition to the forum Fred Duperault, Mike
Fischetti, and others are doing on Single Payer May
18th in Mountain View:

--- Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
> To: HCAC Activists <hcac-act at svpal.org>
> Subject: Two Important Events on May 17 in San Jose
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 01:51:52 -0700
> 
> 
> 2 very important meetings are taking place this
> Thursday, May 17, in San Jose. 
> CHAM is the Community Homeless Alliance Ministry who
> care for the homeless in San Jose and whose mission
> is to end homelessness in our county. Lack of
> affordable housing and health care are intertwined.
> It is a moral issue for all of us who care about our
> fellow human beings.
>  
> Assemblyman Jim Beall is a new force in Sacramento
> for the poor and uninsured. He has a bill AB12 to
> extend his vision for covering the uninsured adults
> in Santa Clara County to the whole state. We need to
> support him in this important effort. Lobby your
> legislators to vote Yes on this bill.
> Please consider supporting these 2 crucial issues
> and attend one of these meetings.
> Thanks,Lynn
> Subject: Two Events on May 17From:
> PerrySandy at aol.com
> 
> 
> Dear Friends of CHAM,
>  
> Enclosed are announcements of two upcoming events at
> (unfortunately) virtually the same time on Thursday,
> May 17. We recommend you choose one or the other.
>  
> The first is regarding housing and homelessness.
> There will be speakers on the countywide Blue Ribbon
> Commission to end homelessness and solve the
> affordable housing crisis. Allison Campbell will be
> speaking for CHAM about her experiences with
> homelessness and her ideas about ending it.
>  
> The second is a health care town hall meeting called
> by Assemblymember Jim Beall. Jim Beall is a longtime
> supporter of health care, including single payer
> (the only cost-effective way to provide guaranteed
> health care for everyone).
>  
> Some CHAM members participated in the massive
> Sacramento rally for the single payer SB 840 on May
> 8. It was the largest rally for single payer ever
> held in California, and possibly the nation.
> Although support for SB 840 is stronger than ever,
> powerful corporate special interests are doing
> everything in their power to strangle it in its
> cradle. There was virtually no media coverage of the
> rally despite attendance by over 2000 people. 
>  
> Jim Beall was one of a half dozen legislators who
> came out at the rally to support 840. Please attend
> his town hall meeting, thank him for his support,
> and urge him to stand firm until every man, woman,
> and child has the health care that is their
> God-given right.
>  
> Seminar on Ending Homelessness and Solving the
> Affordable Housing Crisis May 17, 2007Martin Luther
> King Library, Room 225150 E. San Fernando Street,
> San Jose, CA 951126:30pm ? 8:30pm Light snacks and
> refreshments will be offered. For more
> informationContact Merci Midori: 408.282.1133
> mmidori at charitieshousing.org Sponsors:   
> Chaities Housing    www.charitieshousing,org     
> CHAM Deliverance Ministry    
> www.cham-ministry.orgAffordable Housing Network
> www.affordablehousingweek.org
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 24 HEALTHCARE TOWN
> HALLAssemblymember Jim Beall, Jr. (D-San Jose) would
> like to invite you to a Healthcare Town Hall. The
> Governor and leadership from both houses of the
> State Legislature have made fixing California's
> healthcare system a top priority this year. This
> Town Hall will help educate and raise awareness
> about the various healthcare reform proposals that
> are currently being considered in Sacramento. The
> event will also provide an opportunity to meet with
> your elected official and learn how the Governor's
> May Revise impacts the proposals. You will be able
> to express your thoughts on which proposals you
> think would work best in California. For more
> information, please call (408) 282-8920. Thursday,
> May 17, 20076:00pm - 8:00pmCamden Community
> CenterMulti-Purpose Room3369 Union AvenueSan Jose,
> CA(Free parking available on site)

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 09:40:07 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:40:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Micro$oft saber rattling v open source software
	community
Message-ID: <753586.66801.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/14/microsoft_oss_patent_number/

Microsoft puts a figure on open source 'patent
infringements'
Number of the beast
By Chris Williams 
Published Monday 14th May 2007 11:26 GMT

Microsoft's top lawyer says open source software
violates exactly 235 entries in the firm's vast patent
portfolio.

General counsel Brad Smith released the figure to
Fortune as part of Microsoft's long-running campaign
to seed doubts over the legality of Linux and other
open source efforts.

Redmond's licensing boss Horacio Gutierrez said: "This
is not a case of some accidental, unknowing
infringement. There is an overwhelming number of
patents being infringed."

Smith said the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft
patents and the GUI stomps on another 65. Open Office
plays free and easy with 45 more, while email programs
do for 15, and miscellaneous open source programs
accounting for the remaining 68.

Smith said: "The only real solution that [the open
source] folks have to offer, is that they first burn
down the bridge, and then they burn down the patent
system."

Microsoft announced no plans to act on the
accusations. Last month the Supreme Court ruled that
patents had been granted too readily in a case between
KSR International and Teleflex Inc. Details here at
Business Week. The patent portfolio run by the Open
Invention Network - a consortium backed by IBM, Sony,
Philips, Novell, Red Hat, and NEC - could slap back
with its own lawsuits against Microsoft if it goes
through with its threats.

Free Software Foundation lawyer Eben Moglen was
wheeled out to repeat the movement's assertion that
algorithms are not patentable. He said: "As the
commercial confrontation between [free software] and
software-that's-a-product becomes more fierce, patent
law's going to be the terrain on which a big piece of
the war's going to be fought. Waterloo is here
somewhere."

The Fortune story, which includes a run-down of the
saga, is here. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/index.htm?postversion=2007051405

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 10:09:26 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Two good VTA resources: VTAWatch and VTA Riders
	Union
Message-ID: <532476.89465.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

There's some major changes in the works for VTA
services to find out about them whats planned and to
coordinate input check out these resources:
 
http://vtawatch.blogspot.com/

VTA Rider's Union:
http://www.vtaridersunion.org/

Green means GO!

Drew

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 15:22:34 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:22:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BAREC radio call-in May 14th, and timeline
Message-ID: <201528.29023.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

[BAREC] Current Timeline - Radio call-in (May 14),
City Council Date (June 19)
Date:	Sun, 13 May 2007 12:43:57 -0700
BAREC Supporters:
 
Here are the current dates (Radio call-in and Council
Meeting require action):
 
May 14 - 7:00pm - KLIV (AM 1590) Call-in with San Jose
Mayor Reed: 408-575-1600.   Please call the radio
station and put BAREC as a topic for discussion.  Ask
Mayor Reed to get involved in saving BAREC and ask
what he plans to do.
 
May 14 - 6:00pm - Santa Clara Planning Commission
meeting to review the BAREC/Santa Clara Gardens
proposal and to probably approve it.  The developers
will be presenting their plans again and the City
Staff will recommend approval of the plan.  Please
attend if you can.
 
June 19 - 7:00pm - City of Santa Clara Council Meeting
to hear the BAREC development proposal.  PLEASE ATTEND
THIS MEETING.  It is critical that everyone attend so
that the City hears your voice and we make this a full
house event, taking hours to make public comment. 
This is the place to make your stand.
 
As always, please email comments to us and call with
any questions.  We are close and the time to act is
now!
 
SaveBAREC
www.SaveBAREC.org
888-BAREC-80

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 15:30:21 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:30:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calling Nader: Benchmarks and Bullsh*t: Beware
	bipartisan 'consensus' on Iraq:
Message-ID: <258323.98604.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We Greens represent a major portion of the real
opposition in the U.S.  Along with the Peace and
Freedom, socialists, Libertarians and other 3rd
parties we are the real opposition parties.  Don't
bother counting the Dems.  We need to get ourselves
into elected offices so that the peaceful opposition
to the two-headed War Party has a voice.

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=10963
Benchmarks and Bullsh*t
Beware bipartisan 'consensus' on Iraq
by Justin Raimondo

The news I have for "netroots" types and Huffington
Post liberals who see the Democratic Party as the
major if not only hope for the antiwar movement can be
summed up in two words: forget it. Majority leader
Sen. Harry Reid recently let the cat out of the bag
when he said, "There is new reason this week to
believe that a bipartisan consensus on Iraq is
emerging."

Translation: the sellout is coming, if it isn't
already here.

American voters sent a clear message to Washington
last November when they voted to put an ostensibly
antiwar Democratic Congress in power: they told
pollsters the war was the big issue, and, furthermore,
they wanted out of Iraq. They voted Democratic not
because they suddenly believed that party would end
"the culture of corruption" ? which is a very
bipartisan phenomenon, and voters aren't dumb enough
to believe otherwise ? but because they took seriously
Democratic promises to get us out of Iraq. Before the
election, leading Democrats called for a timetable
aiming at complete "redeployment" of U.S. troops out
of Iraq: immediately after the election, however, the
Dems capitulated to the "surge" (even as their
"antiwar" rhetoric waxed louder). Last week the House
voted down a measure that would have withdrawn the
troops in nine months. If you follow the link you'll
see that Madam Speaker allowed the withdrawal vote "in
the hope that her rank-and-file would then unite
behind the funding bill" ? a two-part bill that would
release some $48 billion initially and then schedule a
summertime vote to appropriate $52.8 billion more to
cover expenses until the end of September.

The White House has threatened to veto the two-part
funding ploy but coupled this with an offer to
negotiate on the Benchmark Question. All eyes are now
on the Senate, reports the Christian Science Monitor,
"where majority leader Harry Reid and White House
officials have been hunkered down in secret
negotiations. Last week, Bush said he had empowered
White House negotiators 'to find common ground on
benchmarks.'"

Caught between the Democratic Party's antiwar base and
the War Party's control of the reins of power in
Washington, Pelosi and Reid have been walking a
tightrope between the two, but their balancing act is
increasingly untenable. Pressure from the ranks of
groups such as MoveOn.org ? whose leadership initially
colluded with the Democratic sellout ? has forced a
turnaround, and the MoveOners have now issued an
ultimatum of sorts to the Dems in the form of an open
letter: they're threatening to move "into opposition"!

Ralph Nader, you have a call on line one


The president is now holding out the bait of
"benchmarks" to increasingly restive Republicans in
Congress who are looking at the oncoming antiwar voter
tsunami with something approaching panic, and the
Democrats will in all likelihood fall for it ? with a
sigh of relief. After all, Reid and Pelosi have been
looking for a way to fund the war without seeming to
own it, to prosecute a conflict and yet take no
responsibility for it ? and now, finally, they may
have hit on the perfect formula.

The benchmark delusion was first perpetrated by the
Democrats, you'll remember: it was an aspect of the
House bill that would have made release of funds
conditional given the fulfillment of a whole brace of
benchmarks. The only problem was that each and every
one of them could be unilaterally waived by the
president. Why Bush didn't accept this I'll never
understand: methinks he's reconsidered, and it's a
good move. Now he can say he's compromised, the
Republicans who are taking incoming fire back home in
their districts will be given some political cover,
and the Democrats (and I include MoveOn.org in this
partisan category) can tout this as a concrete
legislative "achievement" for the party of peace.

And the war will go on, just as before. Nothing will
change. Nothing but the number of dead and wounded,
both Iraqi and American ? the former rising in much
larger numbers than the latter, of course. The
extended deployments will be extended yet further, and
the war ? this futile, unjust, morally indefensible
war of conquest ? will drag on.

In voting down the nine-month withdrawal bill, the
Democrats acquired part-ownership of this war ? and in
moving to endorse the final funding bill, they are
becoming full partners with the GOP in the annexation
of Iraq to the American empire. That's what these
famous benchmarks are all about: they are essentially
instructions to the Iraqis, telling them what they
must do before the funding spigot gets turned on. The
benchmarks dictate to the Iraqis how they will
"reform" the process of "de-Ba'athification," how they
will divvy up their oil resources, and when and how to
hold local elections, among other things.

Of course, the Iraqi parliament could always vote down
the American diktat, but then there would be no money
forthcoming ? including, as Hillary Clinton has
proposed, no money to protect our Iraqi sock puppets
from their countrymen, who consider them collaborators
and traitors. Under the circumstances, it doesn't take
much of a tug on the leash to bring the Iraqi leaders
into line. This is how the Americans conduct their
battle for "hearts and minds" ? by making local
satraps so widely and deeply despised that they are
totally dependent on their Washington overlords for
their sheer physical survival. The real "benchmark"
the Iraqis have to display to the Americans'
satisfaction is an infinite capacity for obedience.

While Congress dickers, both "major" parties are
entering a deal in which they become equal partners in
empire. The "benchmarks" bill, coupled with the
"surge," will seal this agreement in blood.

MoveOn.org is running antiwar television ads in
Republican-held swing districts ? but will they run
those same ads in the districts of the 59 Democrats
who voted against the nine-month withdrawal plan?
Don't hold your breath.

The Democratic Party is not about to end this war. Far
from ending it, they seek to organize and formalize
the occupation. Their "compromise" spending bill signs
them on to constructing a viable colonial
administration based on a two-tiered system of
administration ? with the Iraqi legislature
rubber-stamping decisions made in Washington and the
money flowing in at the same speed as the Iraqis carry
out their orders. Four years after "mission
accomplished," the nature of the mission ? the carving
out of an American province in the heart of the Middle
East ? is all too apparent.

The U.S. is embarked on an openly imperial venture,
and the structure of a rising American Empire is
taking shape before our eyes. It's a fantastic castle
with many rooms and antechambers all leading to the
seat of power, the imperial throne-room of the Oval
Office. Here, at the very apex of the imperial
pyramid, the most powerful man on earth contemplates
his next move, while his co-emperor, who holds court
in an undisclosed location, whispers in his ear: Iran.

The Democrats will go along with that one, too. Madam
Speaker agreed to strip a provision from the Iraq
funding bill that would have required the president to
come to Congress before launching an attack. Indeed,
none of the major Democratic candidates have ruled out
attacking Iran. The loudest voice against such a move
has come from among the Republicans. Rep. Ron Paul,
who recently made such a splash in the GOP
presidential debates, has warned of the possibility of
a new Gulf-of-Tonkin type "incident" that would draw
us into war with Tehran and ignite a regional
conflict.

Democrats are in favor of all sorts of warning labels
on products, right? I propose a warning label be
placed over Democratic Party headquarters in
Washington, especially directed at antiwar voters,
which simply says "ABANDON ALL HOPE, YE WHO ENTER
HERE!"

What is needed is not just a revision of our Iraq
policy, or our Iran policy, or even our Middle East
policy. We need to reevaluate ? and, yes, reverse ?
our entire foreign policy from top to bottom, starting
with its central premise, which is that we must be the
dominant military and political power on the planet.
Neither of the major parties is prepared to do this:
since World War II, both the Democrats and the
Republicans have been explicitly committed to a
foreign policy of global intervention, and this
bipartisan consensus has been maintained right up to
the present day. After 9/11, this messianic tendency
in American foreign policy metastasized like a cancer
cell and gave birth to the neoconservative mutation,
which seized control of the policy-making apparatus in
Washington.

As Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan put it in their 1996
foreign policy manifesto, a founding document of the
neoconservative foreign policy platform, the new
American imperialism is to be a "benevolent global
hegemony." For the first time, the real nature of the
bipartisan consensus, with its emphasis on
"internationalism" and America's role as the "world
leader," was made consistent and explicit. While
disagreeing over means, both parties generally agree
on the proper ends of U.S. foreign policy: global
military dominance by the U.S.

This goal is simply not attainable, and, even if it
were, it is unsustainable ? and, even if it were
sustainable for any significant length of time, it
would not be desirable. World hegemony, "benevolent"
or otherwise, is not so much a policy as a
megalomaniacal fantasy, a symptom of an underlying
sickness that has infected the minds of our rulers ?
an illness that can only end in madness, death, and
mayhem on a scale not seen since the last world war.

The cure is not to be found in partisan politics or in
the wishful thinking of Hollywood liberals who invest
their hopes in whatever rising star in the Democratic
political firmament is fashionable at the moment. The
only antidote is a third-party effort to expose and
defeat both wings of the War Party and hold them to
account. A nationwide antiwar electoral campaign
pledged to defeat all pro-war members of Congress ?
especially Democrats? and actively campaign against
all pro-war candidates for president would do much to
set the stage for a complete cure.

Before that is possible, however, grassroots activists
must lose their illusions about the Democratic Party ?
and recognize the necessity of defeating pro-war
Democrats, not just in primaries but in the general
election. The third-party option must be considered,
and this will separate those whose first loyalty is to
the Democrats from those whose allegiance is to the
cause of peace.

Let's separate the wheat from the chaff, the
"benchmarks" from the bullsh*t, and the partisan hacks
from the healthy body of the antiwar movement. Because
ending this war isn't a partisan issue ? it's a moral
imperative. 

___________________

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 14 15:32:11 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Greens and other Opposition gain in German
	elections
Message-ID: <228580.42067.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Opposition Gains in Germany
Date:	Mon, 14 May 2007 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT)
Opposition Gains in Germany
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: May 14, 2007
Filed at 2:30 a.m. ET
BERLIN (AP) -- Germany's center-left Social Democrats
won an election in the country's smallest state
Sunday, a result that left them to choose whether to
end a regional ''grand coalition'' which mirrors the
national government.
While the Social Democrats, or SPD, maintained their
decades-long hold on the northwestern city-state of
Bremen, it was not an entirely satisfying victory for
a party that is struggling nationally.
Both Germany's governing parties shed votes compared
with the last state election in 2003. There were gains
for the opposition Greens and success for the new Left
Party, which entered a state parliament in former West
Germany for the first time.
The SPD won 36.8 percent of the vote, down from 42.3
percent four years ago, according to final official
results. The Christian Democratic Union declined to
25.7 percent from 29.8 percent.
The Greens scored 16.4 percent, while the Left Party
took 8.4 percent and the business-friendly Free
Democrats 6 percent.
The SPD won 33 seats, the CDU 23 and the Greens 14,
with seven going to the Left Party and five to the
Free Democrats. The far-right German People's Union,
whose vote share was steady at 2.3 percent, retained
one seat.
For the last 12 years, the SPD has governed Bremen in
a left-right coalition with Chancellor Angela Merkel's
conservative Christian Democratic Union, the same
combination that forms the federal government.
The result in Bremen allows the SPD either to continue
the coalition or turn to the Greens, reviving a
center-left alliance that ran Germany under former
Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder until 2005.
Social Democratic Mayor Jens Boehrnsen left open his
choice. ''We will hold talks with those who come into
consideration -- that is ... the CDU and the Greens,
but not the Left Party,'' he said.
Nationally, the SPD is an equal partner in Merkel's
government, but it trails in polls as it struggles to
energize supporters and match the conservative
chancellor's popularity.
The Bremen vote, the only state election this year,
comes amid persistent bickering in the national
coalition.
Merkel's CDU urged the Social Democrats to stick with
them in Bremen. General secretary Ronald Pofalla said
Germans voted out the SPD-Greens combination in 2005
because it ''stands for mass unemployment and
recession.''
Bremen has the highest unemployment of any western
German state, at 13.1 percent. It remained an SPD
stronghold even as the party suffered repeated
reverses in state votes under Schroeder.
Still, Sunday's result underlined the threat it faces
from the left. The Left Party -- a combination of
former Social Democrats disillusioned by economic
reform and former East German communists -- did better
than expected.
The party, which won seats in the federal parliament
in 2005, had previously succeeded at state level only
in the ex-communist east.
''We are now a federal German force, and Bremen proves
that,'' said Gregor Gysi, the party's co-leader in the
federal parliament.
Karl-Rudolf Korte, professor of political science at
the University of Duisburg-Essen, said the smaller
parties' strong performance was ''typical for
elections in the slipstream of a 'grand coalition.'''
''The erosion of the major parties is continuing,'' he
said.
Some 487,000 people were eligible to vote for the
83-seat state legislature. Turnout was a lackluster
57.6 percent.

___________________

JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

"To the brave belong all things"
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From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:59:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] MV Fri 7:30p 'The Healthcare Solution: California
	OneCare'
Message-ID: <574112.26780.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

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___________________

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Mon May 14 23:16:33 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:16:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: 5000 years go by in just minutes]
Message-ID: <46495041.5010104@ispwest.com>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	5000 years go by in just minutes
Date: 	Mon, 14 May 2007 19:56:22 EDT
From: 	TNHarter at aol.com
To: 	rsteward at ihug.co.nz, tnharter at ispwest.com



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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue May 15 07:29:40 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:29:40 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calling Nader: Benchmarks and Bullsh*t
In-Reply-To: <258323.98604.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <258323.98604.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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 Excellent analysis of the Dems sell-out on the war. One of the best I've read. 
 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May 15 09:07:59 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:07:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Two historic votes. You can turn the tide.
Message-ID: <515120.58794.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


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> Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:41:04 GMT
> From: "ActForChange by Working Assets"
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> To: "" <jamboi at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Two historic votes. You can turn the tide.
> 
> ACTFORCHANGE ACTIVISM UPDATE May 15, 2007
> 
> URGENT ALERT
> 
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> 
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> 
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From jims at greens.org  Tue May 15 20:37:19 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 20:37:19 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA Official Notice] Upcoming
 Teleconferences on GPUS Items forSan Francisco Plenary]
Message-ID: <464A7C6F.F807FD2F@greens.org>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Upcoming Teleconferences on GPUS Items
forSan Francisco Plenary
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:43:52 -0700
From: County Contacts <contacts2006 at cagreens.org>
Reply-To: contacts2006 at cagreens.org
To: County Contacts <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more information,
or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. 
Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.





For county delegates to the California General Assembly who
wish to find out more about the 2 proposals related to the
GPUS and the national Presidential campaign, two
teleconferences have been scheduled for answering clarifying
questions and general discussion of these proposals. Each of
these decision items is somewhat complicated, and plenary
agenda time is tight, so delegates are requested to inform
themselves and bring their concerns forward prior to the
plenary if at all possible.

Please note that, with Presidential candidates already
declaring and the California primary moved up to February,
getting these issues resolved is particularly urgent for
both the state and national parties.

The two proposals are: 
1. the IRV Procedure to Resolve Conflicts over affiliation
and Presidential ballot line:
http://cagreens.org/bylaws/proposals/GPUS_IRV_procedure.pdf

2. the Delegate Selection Process to the National
Presidential Nominating Convention:
http://cagreens.org/bylaws/proposals/pres_nom_delegates.pdf

The teleconference information is as follows:

Tuesday, May 22, 2007

and

Thursday, May 24, 2007

Both conferences start at 
7:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2323  (Iowa) 	
Participant Access Code 	65324

To help the conference organizer schedule room for enough
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 16 14:10:35 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:10:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The possible choice of Impeach or Nuremberg
Message-ID: <350272.78470.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.tehachapinews.com/home/Blog/samheath/9407

The possible choice of Impeach or Nuremberg

Hitler?s generals realized too late the direction he
was leading Germany. Will our own generals realize
this of Bush in time? Is a Seven Days in May in the
offing? When things begin to spiral out of control,
the unthinkable often becomes the reality. Like
concentration camps here in America, Hiroshima and
Nagasaki, these were unthinkable until they became a
reality.

While enduring some part of the GOP ?debate? last
night I was reminded of P. T. Bridgeport?s ?wind-up
candidates.? Since the time of Walt Kelly?s spoof of
presidential candidates nothing has changed for the
better among either Republicans or Democrats. What We
the People are still being offered is wind-up toys,
cookie-cutter mannequins as choices. It crossed my
mind that to have persons like Jerry Falwell and Al
Sharpton on the stage would at least have been
interesting, and in their cases you would at least be
entertained. A ?What you see is what you get? choice
would at least be a choice.

One thing has changed, however, and that is the amount
of blatant corruption to be found in the White House
and Congress. It?s one thing to treat elected office
as a license to steal, but quite another when it is
flaunted shamelessly for the whole world to see on a
daily basis and the whole bunch are so corrupt none of
them dare hold any of the others accountable. But it
is obvious in a divided ?Press one for English?
America, something those advocating for Mexican slave
labor to satisfy Corporate Greed do not seem to
realize is increasing the anger and resentment toward
Mexico and Mexicans throughout our nation, things are
spiraling out of control as those lusting for power
stumble about like blind men trying to grab the gold
ring, seemingly oblivious of the fact America lacking
any leaders of virtue is like a deck of cards inviting
collapse.

The mounting corruption in the White House and
Congress could cause the collapse of America as a
nation. I repeat from earlier writings:

There are times when the ?unthinkable? becomes
thinkable by force of circumstances and there is no
muddling through. For those of us who lived that era
of WWII and went on to study the history of the war at
length it is impossible to miss some very disturbing
parallels to what is happening with our present
government and that of Germany leading to the
Nuremberg Tribunal.

That our present White House has become so
ultra-secretive is a case in point. One cannot but
help wondering what the President and his
administration have to hide? Once secrecy for whatever
reason is invoked, especially on the seemingly too oft
specious argument ?national security? all becomes
suspect. None of us question the need of secrecy where
actual national security may be at risk, there are
valid cases of ?need to know,? but there is Sandy
Berger. And we know there are many Berger?s in the
present administration.

But there is little in the Congress to give us hope
corruption in government will be ended, or even
contained. When it comes to politics it is business as
usual and we would be hard pressed to point to any one
politician and say we have faith in that person to act
with virtue. Some say they have faith, but let?s see
them prove that faith by their works.

Sen. Gordon Smith, a moderate Republican from Oregon
who has been a supporter of the war in Iraq, said
months ago ?the U.S. military?s tactics have failed
and he cannot support that anymore.? Smith went on to
say he is at, ?the end of my rope when it comes to
supporting a policy that has our soldiers patrolling
the same streets in the same way, being blown up by
the same bombs, day after day
 That is absurd...It may
even be criminal.?

While Smith?s use of the word ?criminal? has caused
him to do some furious back-peddling the word has been
used, and there is no going back from it. He may have
fallen under the spell of his own rhetoric, a typical
cause of politicians putting their foot in their
mouth, but many understood the enormity of such a word
being used. I certainly understand it and had already
written about it back in April before Smith uttered
the word, knowing as I do the lessons of history and
human nature teach there is nothing too fantastic to
imagine happening in a world seemingly lunatic because
of being dominated by religious and political hatreds.

While Hitler?s underlings ?were just following
orders,? while Hitler received ?credit? as the
architect of Nazism, his generals and others faced
Nuremberg, the verdict of both that tribunal and that
of history. I maintain Caesar Bush and his underlings
will yet face a ?Nuremberg? in absentia if not in
reality.

In addition to the list of crimes on the part of
Caesar?s underlings, is Caesar?s own betrayal of
America through selling out our nation
with the
cooperation of a treasonous Congress refusing to
secure our borders and for betraying We the People to
a half trillion dollar debt, Globalization,
Outsourcing, NAFTA, CAFTA, La Raza, Mexico, and Saudi
Arabia, all with the clear intent of making Americans
slave labor to benefit the wealthy, ruling elite! We
are going to hear more people using the word IMPEACH!
But can an equally corrupt Congress sold out to
corporate masters, all of them in the same bed
betraying America and refusing to secure our borders
thereby inviting nuclear terrorism be expected to
follow through?

Those of us who lived the years of WWII and Nuremberg,
who know the history of that era, know circumstances
can lead to the unthinkable. None of the ordinary
citizens of Germany or Japan could possibly believe
how catastrophic for them would be the decisions their
leaders were making. None of us at the time could
possibly believe there would be concentrations camps
being set up right here in America. But when corrupt
leadership betrays the ordinary citizens of any
nation, the unthinkable often and cataclysmically
becomes the reality. It would be foolish for any to
say it can?t happen again when the circumstances are
pointing to it happening again.

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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed May 16 21:09:05 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:09:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Chuck Hagel (Republican) calls for Gonzales to
	resign.
Message-ID: <464BD561.2030604@charter.net>


http://dwb.sacbee.com/24hour/politics/story/3620795p-12926882c.html

*Hagel demands Gonzales' resignation
By LAURIE KELLMAN -- Associated Press Writer
*Last Updated 2:22 pm PDT Wednesday, May 16, 2007


<http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2007/05/top-ten-environmental-goofs-by-bush.html> 

------------------------------------------------------------------------


Attorney General Alberto Gonzales speaks at a news maker event, Tuesday, 
May 15, 2007, at the National Press Club in Washington.
Ron Edmonds -- AP Photo

*See additional images*
 
WASHINGTON (AP) Sen. Chuck Hagel on Wednesday became the latest 
Republican to call for Alberto Gonzales' resignation, saying revelations 
about a sick bed visit to his predecessor have undermined his moral 
authority to lead the Justice Department.

Citing dramatic testimony a day earlier that revealed that Gonzales, 
then the White House legal counsel, tried to undermine the department he 
now leads, Hagel demanded the attorney general's resignation.

"The American people deserve an attorney general, the chief law 
enforcement officer of our country, whose honesty and capability are 
beyond question," Hagel, R-Neb., said in a statement. "Attorney General 
Gonzales can no longer meet this standard. He has failed this country. 
He has lost the moral authority to lead."

------------------------------------------------------------------------


President Bush continued to stand by his longtime friend and adviser. 
Asked about Hagel's comment on Gonzales' moral authority, press 
secretary Tony Snow replied: "We disagree, and the president supports 
the attorney general."

Hagel has hinted at seeking his party's presidential nomination but has 
not officially declared his candidacy. Another GOP contender, Sen. John 
McCain, last month called for Gonzales' resignation.

Hagel's harsh words came in response to testimony Tuesday by James 
Comey, deputy to Gonzales' predecessor, John Ashcroft. Comey said that 
Gonzales pressured an ailing Ashcroft to approve the legality of 
President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program. Ashcroft - critically 
ill with pancreatitis at the time - rebuffed Gonzales, Comey recalled.

The White House went ahead with the program without Justice Department 
approval, Comey said. Faced with the resignations of Comey, Ashcroft and 
FBI Director Robert Mueller, Bush relented and changed the program to 
address Justice's concerns.

The story plus the dustup over the firings of at least eight federal 
prosecutors inspired Hagel to demand that Gonzales step down.

"Alberto Gonzales should resign now," Hagel said.

The White House has not confirmed nor refuted Comey's account, but Snow 
described it as only one view of the events.

"Jim Comey gave his side of what transpired. The president still has 
full confidence in Alberto Gonzales," Snow said.

Unhappy with Gonzales, most Republicans have nonetheless largely 
refrained from calling for his resignation. Republicans who have called 
for Gonzales' ouster include Sens. John Sununu, R-N.H., Tom Coburn, 
R-Okla., and House GOP Conference Chairman Adam Putnam, R-Fla.

Democrats sought to re-ignite the discussion of Gonzales' fitness for 
office by eliciting - then pouncing on - the details of that night in 
March, 2004. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., cast the incident as an example 
of what he said was the attorney general's habit of putting Bush's 
interests ahead of virtually all else. Otherwise, the story had little 
connection to the Democrats' stated topic for the hearing, the ousters 
of eight federal prosecutors over the winter.

At issue in 2004 was Bush's no-warrant wiretapping program, which Comey 
described as so questionable that Ashcroft refused for a time to 
reauthorize it as required in March, 2004.

Senior government officials had expressed concerns about whether the 
National Security Agency, which administered the program, had the proper 
oversight in place. Other concerns included whether any president 
possessed the legal and constitutional authority to authorize the 
program as it operated at the time.

Days before the program's required recertification in March, 2004, 
Ashcroft suddenly fell ill enough with pancreatitis that he transferred 
the powers of the attorney general to Comey. Acting Attorney General 
Comey, too, refused to certify the program's legality.

On March 10, Gonzales, then White House Counsel, and Bush's former chief 
of staff, Andy Card, took the matter to Ashcroft as he lay in the 
intensive care unit at George Washington University Hospital. Tipped to 
their impending visit, Comey raced there with the sirens of his security 
detail blaring, he told the committee Tuesday.

Comey arrived at Ashcroft's bedside moments before the president's aides 
walked in, Gonzales holding the presidential order of recertification.

Ashcroft rebuffed them, pointing out that Comey held the powers of the 
attorney general at that moment. Gonzales and Card left the room without 
acknowledging Comey.

Card later demanded that Comey come to the White House. Comey said he 
demanded a witness accompany him after the conduct he'd seen at 
Ashcroft's bed side.

Card "replied, 'What conduct? We were just there to wish him well,'" 
Comey recalled.

The White House certified the legality of the program without the 
Justice Department's signoff, causing Comey, Ashcroft and Mueller to 
prepare their resignations, Comey said. Faced with a mass walkout at the 
helm of Justice, Bush relented.

A day after the incident at Ashcroft's hospital bedside, Bush ordered 
changes to the program to accommodate the department's concerns. 
Ashcroft signed the presidential order to recertify the program about 
three weeks later.

The FBI and the Justice Department refused to comment on the meeting, 
but defended the eavesdropping program as essential to the war on 
terrorism. Spokesmen for Ashcroft and Mueller refused requests for comment.


-- 
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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Thu May 17 00:24:25 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 03:24:25 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [SBM] Fw: [eastbayDoPeaceCampaign] Fwd:
	[K4P] Re: THE KUCINICH PHENOMENO...
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Hi All,

A friend who is a Kucinich supporter sent this.

FYI
In particular see the last paragraph. If this report is correct a very 
impactful change could be taking place for our democracy.   Very intriguing 
statement by one of the delegates.

Merriam

One delegate, who indentified himself as Mike, may have summed up the 
convention best by saying, "This is America. People are supposed to pick the leaders 
of their choice and not settle for what the two parties gives them.  If the 
Democratic leaders think the next election is about their choice for President, 
they may soon find their party without any voters.  We are in charge. The days 
of top down leadership are over."




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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 17 00:30:09 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 00:30:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Clean Money Campaign Th 6:45, Cupertino
Message-ID: <211910.41969.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.caclean.org/events/southbayarea.php
Clean Money Campaign South Bay Area Working Group
Meets third Thursday of every month.
Next Meeting: Thu, May 17th in Cupertino
Meeting: 7:00pm - 9:00pm
Introductory Video for Newcomers: 6:45pm - 7:00pm

Our state Clean Money bill, AB 583, passed its first
hurdle in the Assembly Elections Committee on April
17th!  Now we need to re-double our efforts because it
should be before the Assembly Appropriations committee
sometime in May, an even bigger hurdle.

Join other volunteers working in your community to
build support for AB 583 and Clean Money full
public-funding of campaigns today!  We'll be taking
action to help the bill through the legislature.  Find
out how you can help and bring your ideas.  Working
together, we'll help make Clean Money happen so that
elections become about ideas, not money.

If you haven't seen it yet, come at 6:45 to watch Bill
Moyers' inspiring "Road to Clean Elections", which
shows how Arizona and Maine's sensible Clean Money
systems have been making their governments take into
account the needs of all their citizens.

WHEN:
Thu, May 17th from 7:00pm - 9:00pm .  
Introductory video at 6:45pm

WHERE:
Remax Realty Office, Suite 210 (2nd floor)
19200 Stevens Creek Blvd
Cupertino, CA  95014
Get Online Directions...
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?src=maps&2ex=1&2l=L+8hngL0yeQ=&2g=FPhgIkePLQxMaY3OEzPaJQ==&2v=ADDRESS&2a=19200%20Stevens%20Creek%20Blvd&2c=Cupertino&2s=CA&2z=95014-2530&2y=US&2pn=&2pl=

QUESTIONS? Send email to SouthBayArea-info at CAclean.org.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 17 00:40:41 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 00:40:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Rwanda Genocide Survivor Speaks: PA May 21st, Gunn
Message-ID: <773552.96511.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Rwanda Survivor Speaks
Entry Free, 
Palo Alto 
Evening May 21st, Gunn High School
RSVP (408) 864-8637


>From "Marcille, Paul" <pmarcille at pgsp.edu> wrote:

>snip<

    I wanted you to be aware of an unusual and
wonderful opportunity for your students. The Pacific
Graduate School of Psychology and the Student Council
of the Bachelor of Science program at De Anza have
arranged for a fascinating speaker, Immaculee
Ilibagiza, who survived the Rwandan genocide, to come
and speak to all of our students, faculty and staff.

    One of my colleagues at PGSP does research and
clinical work in the area of genocide. He knew
Immaculee was going to be in town and would be willing
to speak ... we've arranged to use the auditorium at
Gunn High School in Palo Alto on the evening of May
21st.  Entry is free, and all folks need to do is let
PGSP know they're coming.

    Thanks in advance and have a good day.

    Paul J. Marcille, Ph.D.
    Director & Professor
    Undergraduate Psychology Program
    Pacific Graduate School of Psychology
    at De Anza College
    21250 Stevens Creek Blvd, SCS247
    Cupertino, California 95014
    Tel. (408) 864-8637
    Cell (408) 438-8300
    Fax. (408) 356-3094
    pmarcille at pgsp.edu
    http://p3.pgsp.edu

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 17 14:52:04 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:52:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary info and travel assistance funds
Message-ID: <341761.87298.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Forwarded from the GPCA:

Dear GPCA member

The next General Assembly meeting of the Green Party
of California will be held Saturday, May 26th to
Sunday, May 27th, 2007 in San Francisco, at the State
Government Building, 450 Golden Gate Ave, 94102-3661.

http://www.google.com/maps?q=450+Golden+Gate+Ave,+San+Francisco,+California+94102,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title

Registration fees have been set at:

   Two days: Saturday/Sunday, with light
breakfast/full lunch: $55
   One day: Saturday or Sunday, with light
breakfast/full lunch: $30
      Bring your own eating utensils- $2 total
discount
      Bring your own utensils, cup, plate-$5 total
discount

On March 6th, the GPCA Coordinating Committee has
established a travel assistance program for low-income
General Assembly delegates, co-coordinators of GPCA
working groups and committees, and CC members who plan
on attending.

The allocation of these travel assistance funds are as
follows:

- Individuals coming from the following regions
(SD-Imp, ORSB, LA), may receive up to $125
- Individuals coming from the following regions
(Central, Central Coast, Emerald) may receive up to
$75.
- Individuals coming from the following regions (East
Bay, Monterrey Bay, North Bay, San Francisco, Silicon
Valley) may receive up to $50
- Allocations will be made on a first-come,
first-serve basis.

If you are unsure of which GPCA region your county is
in, please see

http://www.cagreens.org/structure/county_to_region.htm
http://www.cagreens.org/structure/region_to_county.htm

>snip<

Because the travel assistance funds are available on a
first-come, first-served basis, please send in your
request as soon as possible to the GPCA Treasurer
Kenny Mostern, at <kenny at kennymostern.net>, with the
subject line "Travel Assistance Request for GPCA
General Assembly".

In your request, please include your

- name
- city
- county/region
- contact info
- amount requested/basis of financial need
- role in party to qualify for assistance (i.e.
General Assembly delegate, Co-coordinator of a
Standing Committee or Working Group, Coordinating
Committee member)

Further logistical information about travel and
lodging will be available shortly.

--------------------------------------------------------

Note: copies of the draft agenda with proposal
language, as approved by the General Assembly Planning
Sub-Committee, is already available for review and
printing (561KB), at

http://cagreens.org/plenary/archives/agendas/0705proposals.pdf

and as a hypertext document at

http://www.cagreens.org/ga/2007-05/

You will need the usual password to gain access to
both formats.

If you have questions or concerns about the proposals
themselves, please contact the presenters before the
General Assembly, using the contact information
provided with each proposal.

The draft allocation of delegates to county Green
Parties has also been calculated (and is subject to
final approval by the Coordinating Committee.)  This
draft is available in the printed Appendix and on-line
at

http://www.cagreens.org/liaison/docs/delegates.html

For this plenary only, since 36 uncontested GPUS
delegate seats are being elected, the GPUS delegate
bios/statements of candidacy will be published in a
separate document, and for now is already available
on-line at

http://www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/applications_2007/gpus_delegation/

___________________

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 17 15:45:18 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Committee & Locals on-line facilities soon
	available on county web site
Message-ID: <516506.59344.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

All members of GPSCC Locals, Media, Strategy, Event,
Health Care Committee members and all GPSCC members:

Cameron and I figured out a great solution to doing
our committee communication work.  Soon we'll be
launching a Drupal-based facility on our county web
site for us to be able to do our committee discussions
on-line but not necessarily by e-mail (since many
don't wish to receive yet more e-mail.  Those that
wish to use e-mail have that option in the software I
believe).

Originally I'd thought we might this over on the
GreenCommons.org web site, but we decided to do it on
our own site instead.  Sorry for any confusion this
may have created.

Organize, Energize, Coalize!

Drew

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 17 17:47:32 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:47:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Hawaii, DC, NM,
	CA and TX people of color now majority
Message-ID: <571308.96845.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

"Four states, along with the District of Columbia, are
"majority-minority" in 2006. Hawaii was first (75
percent minority), followed by the District of
Columbia (68 percent), New Mexico (57 percent),
California (57 percent) and Texas (52 percent). No
other state had a minority population exceeding 42
percent of the total."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/17/national/main2821309.shtml

Census: Minority Population Tops 100M
One-In-Three Americans Is A Minority; 4 States Have
"Majority Minority" Population

Timeline

Population Milestones	Population Milestones
Track the steady increase of the U.S. population since
the colonists landed, with the latest key Census
Bureau reports.	
	
WASHINGTON, May 17, 2007
Residents walk past a paleta vendor along 26th Street
in the predominantly Mexican Little Village in
Chicago, Illinois. Hispanic was the fastest-growing
minority group, enlarging 3.4 percent between July 1,
2005 and July 1, 2006 for a total of 44.3 million,
according to Census data. (GETTY)

Quote

"In fact, the minority population in the U.S. is
larger than the total population of all but 11
countries."
Census Bureau Director Louis Kincannon

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(CBS/AP) The United States is becoming more diverse,
with ethnic and racial minorities topping 100 million
for the first time in 2006, according to data from the
Census Bureau.

The data suggest about one in three Americans was a
minority last year.

The nation was 66.4 percent white, non-Hispanic; 15
percent Hispanic; 13.4 percent black; 5 percent Asian,
and 1.5 percent American Indian or native Alaskan.
Three-tenths of a percent identified themselves as
Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.

The percentages add up to more than 100, in part
because some people identify with more than one race
and Hispanics can be of any race.

"To put this into perspective, there are more
minorities in this country today than there were
people in the United States in 1910, Census Bureau
Director Louis Kincannon said. "In fact, the minority
population in the U.S. is larger than the total
population of all but 11 countries."

California led the way with a minority population of
more than 20 million, followed by Texas with just over
12 million.

A year ago, the minority population was 98.3 million.

Some highlights:

# Hispanic was the fastest-growing minority group,
enlarging 3.4 percent between July 1, 2005 and July 1,
2006 for a total of 44.3 million. Asian was second
with a 3.2 percent growth, totaling 14.9 million.

# The black population surpassed 40 million and
increased 1.3 percent.

# White, non-Hispanics accounted for less than 18
percent of the nation's population growth. The
population of non-Hispanic whites who indicated no
other race totaled 198.7 million in 2006.

# The Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander group
has reached 1 million.

# Four states, along with the District of Columbia,
are "majority-minority" in 2006. Hawaii was first (75
percent minority), followed by the District of
Columbia (68 percent), New Mexico (57 percent),
California (57 percent) and Texas (52 percent). No
other state had a minority population exceeding 42
percent of the total.

Based on the Census data, an analysis by The
Associated Press showed that Illinois is the most
average state in the country.

The study examined 21 demographic factors, including
race, age, income, education, industrial mix,
immigration and the share of people living in urban
and rural areas.

Each state was then ranked on how closely it matched
national levels. Illinois was followed by Oregon,
Michigan, Washington and Delaware.

West Virginia was the least typical state: poorer,
whiter, more rural followed by Mississippi, New
Hampshire, Vermont and Kentucky.

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri May 18 00:13:53 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 00:13:53 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Have you heard about WorldWithoutOil.org?
Message-ID: <464D5231.4030505@ispwest.com>

At the SVBC Bike To Work day party I found myself talking to this guy whose
website is all about presenting a world where we are going through an 
oil shock
like the one that happened in the '70s only worse. I just spent an hour 
or so
browsing the site and it is fascinating. I recomend visiting it if you 
have time.

http://WorldWithoutOil.org

They started the simulation a couple of weeks ago, and it will be going for
another couple of weeks as I type this. Then it will be gone. Please check
it out while the action is still progressing.

It's a bit hard to suspend disbelief with all the warnings that this is 
an alternate
reality, but once you get past those there are many riveting reads on 
the site.
There is also quite a bit of audio and video stuff.

-- 
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri May 18 07:51:57 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:51:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Hawaii, DC, NM,
 CA and TX people of color now majority
In-Reply-To: <571308.96845.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <571308.96845.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <464DBD8D.8020009@charter.net>

JamBoi wrote:
> "Four states, along with the District of Columbia, are
> "majority-minority" in 2006. Hawaii was first (75
> percent minority), followed by the District of
> Columbia (68 percent), New Mexico (57 percent),
> California (57 percent) and Texas (52 percent). No
> other state had a minority population exceeding 42
> percent of the total."
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/17/national/main2821309.shtml
>   
I had been thinking about the political ramifications of this. There is 
one side of me that hopes the long range effect would be to eliminate 
racial / ethnic identity as a factor in political discourse. Maybe that 
will happen, but not in my lifetime.

The most recent example was brought to light by our old friend, Alex 
Walker, in a note to the LA County Greens regarding the special election 
to fill the seat of the late Juanita Millender-McDonald. (CA-37)

Alex cited, and took issue with, an editorial in the Black Commentator 
<http://www.blackcommentator.com/230/230_between_the_lines_millender_mcdonald_seat.html>. 
"More At Stake Than Just Politics As Usual" By Dr. Anthony Asadullah 
Samad, PhD. I extract the following:
__

    In a state that has long promoted the fallacy of shrinking Black
    political power, or more critically, a Latino ?power flex? on Black
    elected officials, this Richardson-McDonald face-off is more than
    just about one seat. It is about what the Black community is
    prepared to do to keep an all important Congressional seat. We
    cannot allow egos and rhetoric to get in the way. . . . What
    significance? It?s the 800-pound gorilla in the room called the
    ever-expanding Latino politic. Tied to a population growth that will
    make them a statistical majority in the state by 2010, the fear of
    encroachment on historically Black seats is becoming a reality. This
    is the biggest power flex since former L.A. City Councilman, Nick
    Pacheco, a few years ago, tried to clip downtown out of Councilwoman
    Jan Perry?s district in a redistricting power play. Some think the
    Black and Latino communities are on a head-on collision course for
    political and economic control of shared geographies. It doesn?t
    have to be that way, but the over-zealous and over-ambitious have a
    way of dictating this relationship. So now we wait to see just how
    Orpeza's stepping into this race plays out in the long term. Is this
    an isolated incidence, or the crack in the political dam that will
    cause a flood of non-Black candidates to come rushing through the
    Black community at a later date? All of this has to be considered. .
    . . This is not about Richardson or McDonald. It?s about saving an
    all-important Congressional seat at a time when Black people need
    representation in California.

__
This is the way it will really play out, one group playing identity 
politics at the expense of another and maybe (or not) at the expense of 
electing the most qualified candidate.


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 18 13:07:25 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:07:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Third-party White House bid could shake up race
Message-ID: <627810.58440.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070518/pl_nm/usa_politics_bloomberg_dc
Third-party White House bid could shake up race

By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent 2 hours,
52 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In an unpredictable 2008
presidential race, the prospect of a viable
third-party candidacy -- particularly a self-financed
bid by billionaire Michael Bloomberg -- could be the
biggest wild card of all.

Reports that Bloomberg, New York's Republican mayor,
is willing to spend a big chunk of his personal
fortune -- perhaps as much as $1 billion -- on a White
House run set off a new round of speculation about his
intentions and his possible impact on the November
2008 election.

The speculation was egged on by Sen. Chuck Hagel
(news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska, a conservative
Republican and
Iraq war opponent who also is considering an
independent bid and had dinner with Bloomberg
recently.

Hagel openly hinted about joining the mayor on a
high-octane, third-party ticket that could reshape the
political landscape and jolt the traditional U.S.
two-party system.

"It's a great country to think about -- a New York boy
and a Nebraska boy to be teamed up leading this
nation," Hagel said earlier this week on CBS.

A third-party bid would hope to take advantage of
public discontent with the Republican and Democratic
parties, which already has led 60,000 people to sign
up for an Internet-based movement aimed at fielding a
bipartisan independent ticket in 2008.

The Unity '08 effort, led by a group of veteran
political strategists from both parties, was inspired
by the idea that both parties are dominated by their
most extreme elements and a majority of Americans are
looking for a centrist approach.

"The political system is at a point where the train
has left the track," said Doug Bailey, a consultant on
President Gerald Ford's 1976 campaign and founder of
the Hotline political newsletter.

"There is no common ground and there is no capacity to
seek common ground," said Bailey, a co-founder of the
group along with Hamilton Jordan and Gerald Rafshoon,
advisers to former President Jimmy Carter.

He said the group, which hopes to have 2 million
delegates signed up to participate in its June 2008
online nominating convention, has talked to about 40
potential candidates. He refused to say whether that
included Bloomberg and Hagel.

ACTING LIKE A CANDIDATE

Bloomberg has tried to scuttle talk about a
presidential candidacy without flatly ruling it out.
But the former Democrat, who turned Republican to run
for mayor, has been acting very much like a candidate
for something.

He revived his campaign Web site and traveled recently
to Texas and Oklahoma, two states with relatively
difficult procedures for getting independent
candidates on the ballot, to outline a plan for a
national energy policy.

Any third-party candidate would face enormous
obstacles, from meeting requirements to get on state
ballots to producing from scratch the organizations
that drive campaigns. But Bloomberg would have the
money to overcome many of the normal hurdles, analysts
said.

"Bloomberg can simply buy himself some support.
Putting a billion dollars in the race can overcome a
lot of challenges," said Jack Pitney of Claremont
McKenna College in California.

A liberal on social issues with a strong track record
as a manager and businessman, Bloomberg would probably
pull votes from both parties, Democratic political
consultant Hank Sheinkopf said.

The history of modern third-party U.S. presidential
bids offers few success stories. The most recent
third-party candidates to break double-digits in
popular vote percentage were businessman
Ross Perot, who won 19 percent in 1992, and Alabama
Gov. George Wallace, who won 13 percent in 1968.

Third-party candidates often play the role of spoiler,
most famously in 2000 when Green Party candidate
Ralph Nader was blamed by Democrats for taking enough
votes from
Al Gore in Florida to hand the White House to
Republican George W. Bush.

Public discontent does not necessarily translate into
a winning third-party run, analysts said.

"Americans like the idea of third parties, but as
we've seen repeatedly they are pretty well satisfied
with the two-party system," said public opinion
analyst Karlyn Bowman of the conservative American
Enterprise Institute.

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri May 18 17:33:57 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:33:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Hawaii, DC, NM,
 CA and TX people of color now majority
In-Reply-To: <571308.96845.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <571308.96845.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <464E45F5.9080601@ispwest.com>

JamBoi wrote:

>
>Based on the Census data, an analysis by 
>The Associated Press showed that Illinois 
>is the most average state in the country.
>  
>
They know that there. Last I heard, large insurance companies
like Farmers Insurance were headquartered in places like Normal,
Illinois. Doesn't Normal sound like a great place to HQ insurance?

Peoria, IL, considers itself the perfect place to test market something,
because it is "a mix of 100,000 people, that is a microcosm of America".
The fact that it is surrounded by huge corn fields mean you can reach
them and nobody else with your marketing budget. Companies like
McDonalds love to test market stuff there to find out "if it plays in 
Peoria."

I was surprised to find out in the '80s that Sacramento, CA is only
a little less ideal as a test market. For California companies it is better,
because it's a reasonable drive from most of our State.

I want to know where NORML, CA is...

>The study examined 21 demographic factors, including
>race, age, income, education, industrial mix,
>immigration and the share of people living in urban
>and rural areas.
>
>Each state was then ranked on how closely it matched
>national levels. Illinois was followed by Oregon,
>Michigan, Washington and Delaware.
>
>West Virginia was the least typical state: poorer,
>whiter, more rural followed by Mississippi, New
>Hampshire, Vermont and Kentucky.
>  
>
I know that Cameron knows abou WV and Gerry knows about VT.

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From jims at greens.org  Fri May 18 18:23:03 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:23:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA Official Notice] Upcoming
 Teleconferences on GPUS Items forSan Francisco Plenary]
Message-ID: <464E5177.F4AE15C9@greens.org>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Upcoming Teleconferences on GPUS Items
forSan Francisco Plenary
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 18:43:52 -0700
From: County Contacts <contacts2006 at cagreens.org>
Reply-To: contacts2006 at cagreens.org
To: County Contacts <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more information,
or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. 
Follow the contact directions
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For county delegates to the California General Assembly who
wish to find out more about the 2 proposals related to the
GPUS and the national Presidential campaign, two
teleconferences have been scheduled for answering clarifying
questions and general discussion of these proposals. Each of
these decision items is somewhat complicated, and plenary
agenda time is tight, so delegates are requested to inform
themselves and bring their concerns forward prior to the
plenary if at all possible.

Please note that, with Presidential candidates already
declaring and the California primary moved up to February,
getting these issues resolved is particularly urgent for
both the state and national parties.

The two proposals are: 
1. the IRV Procedure to Resolve Conflicts over affiliation
and Presidential ballot line:
http://cagreens.org/bylaws/proposals/GPUS_IRV_procedure.pdf

2. the Delegate Selection Process to the National
Presidential Nominating Convention:
http://cagreens.org/bylaws/proposals/pres_nom_delegates.pdf

The teleconference information is as follows:

Tuesday, May 22, 2007

and

Thursday, May 24, 2007

Both conferences start at 
7:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2323  (Iowa) 	
Participant Access Code 	65324

To help the conference organizer schedule room for enough
people, please email Cat Woods
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expect to attend. (Some extra room will be booked, so don't
refrain from calling in if you forget to RSVP.)

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From jims at greens.org  Fri May 18 18:23:21 2007
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:23:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA Official Notice] Register NOW for the
 San Francisco GeneralAssembly]
Message-ID: <464E5189.C35E07F7@greens.org>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Register NOW for the San Francisco
GeneralAssembly
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:47:14 -0700
From: County Contacts <contacts2006 at cagreens.org>
Reply-To: contacts2006 at cagreens.org
To: County Contacts <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more information,
or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. 
Follow the contact directions
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We ask that all Greens and others planning to attend the May 26-27 General
Assembly in San Francisco to please register online at this time.

      http://cagreens.org/plenary

Information on lodging in San Francisco has just been added to the web site. 

The two different draft Agenda Packets can also be downloaded (GPCA 
common password required).  You will need both to decide which one to 
vote for at the Plenary and for discussion before the Plenary

County Councils -- Please remember to input your list of delegates and
alternates into the Delegates page.

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From alexcathy at aol.com  Fri May 18 18:28:11 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:28:11 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Hawaii, DC, NM,
	CA and TX people of color now majority
In-Reply-To: <571308.96845.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <571308.96845.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C967CC193A4981-16E0-5566@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com>

  The Los Angeles Times and the New York Times had articles on this subject also. 
 
 I wasn't going to write or blog on it because, to me, it was kinda "old news." 
 
 Nevertheleess, I noticed an interesting discrepancy between the CBS News story and the two stories I read. 
 
 Both the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times went into a lot of detail about the political implications. 
 
 Are you sitting down? Check out this little nugget I highlighted in boldfaced type buried in the NYT story: 
 
 
  = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/us/17census.html The New York Times, Thursday, May 17, 2007  New Demographic Racial Gap Emerges  By SAM ROBERTS With the number of nonwhite Americans above 100 million for the first time, demographers are identifying an emerging racial generation gap. That development may portend a nation split between an older, whiter electorate and a younger overall population that is more Hispanic, black and Asian and that presses sometimes competing agendas and priorities. ?The new demographic divide has broader implications for social programs and education spending for youth,? said Mark Mather, deputy director of domestic programs for the Population Reference Bureau, a nonpartisan research group. ?There?s a fairly large homogenous population 60 and older that may not be sympathetic to the needs of a diverse youthful population,? Dr. Mather said.  
 . . . 
 
 Dr. Mather said the three most homogeneous states ? Maine, Vermont and West Virginia ? spent the highest proportion of their gross state product on public education. ?There does seem to be a correlation,? he said. John B. Diamond, a professor of education at Harvard, said that ?there are patterns of school funding that suggest that may be a problem down the line.? But he also said the impact might be mitigated by two factors. Because of persistent residential segregation, he said, elderly white voters do not necessarily live in the same school districts as young members of minorities. And, altruism aside, older voters may be persuaded that their pensions and other benefits depend on the income and taxes generated by a better-educated work force. 
 . . . 
 
 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =  
  My wife, Cathy Deppe, almost jumped off her chair when she read that one. Maine, Vermont and West Virginia spent the highest proportion of their gross state product on public education. 
  
  Wow! 
  
  Please note that those three are NOT rich states like Connecticut, New York, and California. 
  
  Shortly after Hurricane Katrina, Paul Krugman wrote a commentary in the New York Times: 
  Tragedy in Black and White by Paul Krugman 
  New York Times, September 19, 2005 
   . . . 
  
  And who can honestly deny that race is a major reason America treats its poor more harshly than any other advanced country? To put it crudely: a middle-class European, thinking about the poor, says to himself, "There but for the grace of God go I." A middle-class American is all too likely to think, perhaps without admitting it to himself, "Why should I be taxed to support those people?" 
  . . . 
   
  So true! So sad, but true. 
  
  We can work around it by appealing to the "better angels" of our nature, but that's just never gonna happen screwing around with Democrats and Republicans and their openly racist politics. 
  
 
  
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 18 23:52:18 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:52:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Test Market Cities (was Re: Hawaii, DC, NM,
	CA and TX people of color now majority)
In-Reply-To: <464E45F5.9080601@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <118707.7013.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I grew up in another of these test markets: Denver CO!

Green means GO!

Drew

--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:

> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> >
> >Based on the Census data, an analysis by 
> >The Associated Press showed that Illinois 
> >is the most average state in the country.
> >  
> >
> They know that there. Last I heard, large insurance
> companies
> like Farmers Insurance were headquartered in places
> like Normal,
> Illinois. Doesn't Normal sound like a great place to
> HQ insurance?
> 
> Peoria, IL, considers itself the perfect place to
> test market something,
> because it is "a mix of 100,000 people, that is a
> microcosm of America".
> The fact that it is surrounded by huge corn fields
> mean you can reach
> them and nobody else with your marketing budget.
> Companies like
> McDonalds love to test market stuff there to find
> out "if it plays in 
> Peoria."
> 
> I was surprised to find out in the '80s that
> Sacramento, CA is only
> a little less ideal as a test market. For California
> companies it is better,
> because it's a reasonable drive from most of our
> State.
> 
> I want to know where NORML, CA is...
> 
> >The study examined 21 demographic factors,
> including
> >race, age, income, education, industrial mix,
> >immigration and the share of people living in urban
> >and rural areas.
> >
> >Each state was then ranked on how closely it
> matched
> >national levels. Illinois was followed by Oregon,
> >Michigan, Washington and Delaware.
> >
> >West Virginia was the least typical state: poorer,
> >whiter, more rural followed by Mississippi, New
> >Hampshire, Vermont and Kentucky.
> >  
> >
> I know that Cameron knows abou WV and Gerry knows
> about VT.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 00:19:57 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:19:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Hawaii, DC, NM,
	CA and TX people of color now majority
In-Reply-To: <8C967CC193A4981-16E0-5566@WEBMAIL-MC19.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <442019.5644.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I think it NEEDS to be blogged on and talked about
extensively because of the political implications,
esecially within the Green Party.  KCM Curry (running
for the GP's '08 nomination for Vice President) got my
attention on this since she rings this bell frequently
and has been sending a WAKE UP signal to the Green
Party for us to get on the ball and start to pay
attention to this fact.  I think she's right on the
money on this.

When you think about it it seems we Greens could be in
a reasonable position visa vie really serving people
of color.  After all it takes FOREVER to work your way
up in the Dems or Repubs and that inertia is killing
any flexibility they have to respond and serve the new
majority in CA.  On the other hand a person can very
quickly step in and make a huge difference in the
Green Party.

Greens ARE People of Color!

Drew

--- alexcathy at aol.com wrote:

>   The Los Angeles Times and the New York Times had
> articles on this subject also. 
>  
>  I wasn't going to write or blog on it because, to
> me, it was kinda "old news." 
>  
>  Nevertheleess, I noticed an interesting discrepancy
> between the CBS News story and the two stories I
> read. 
>  
>  Both the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times
> went into a lot of detail about the political
> implications. 
>  
>  Are you sitting down? Check out this little nugget
> I highlighted in boldfaced type buried in the NYT
> story: 
>  
>  
>   = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = = = 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/17/us/17census.html
> The New York Times, Thursday, May 17, 2007  New
> Demographic Racial Gap Emerges  By SAM ROBERTS With
> the number of nonwhite Americans above 100 million
> for the first time, demographers are identifying an
> emerging racial generation gap. That development may
> portend a nation split between an older, whiter
> electorate and a younger overall population that is
> more Hispanic, black and Asian and that presses
> sometimes competing agendas and priorities. ???The
> new demographic divide has broader implications for
> social programs and education spending for youth,???
> said Mark Mather, deputy director of domestic
> programs for the Population Reference Bureau, a
> nonpartisan research group. ???There???s a fairly
> large homogenous population 60 and older that may
> not be sympathetic to the needs of a diverse
> youthful population,??? Dr. Mather said.  
>  . . . 
>  
>  Dr. Mather said the three most homogeneous states
> ??? Maine, Vermont and West Virginia ??? spent the
> highest proportion of their gross state product on
> public education. ???There does seem to be a
> correlation,??? he said. John B. Diamond, a
> professor of education at Harvard, said that
> ???there are patterns of school funding that suggest
> that may be a problem down the line.??? But he also
> said the impact might be mitigated by two factors.
> Because of persistent residential segregation, he
> said, elderly white voters do not necessarily live
> in the same school districts as young members of
> minorities. And, altruism aside, older voters may be
> persuaded that their pensions and other benefits
> depend on the income and taxes generated by a
> better-educated work force. 
>  . . . 
>  
>  = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = =  
>   My wife, Cathy Deppe, almost jumped off her chair
> when she read that one. Maine, Vermont and West
> Virginia spent the highest proportion of their gross
> state product on public education. 
>   
>   Wow! 
>   
>   Please note that those three are NOT rich states
> like Connecticut, New York, and California. 
>   
>   Shortly after Hurricane Katrina, Paul Krugman
> wrote a commentary in the New York Times: 
>   Tragedy in Black and White by Paul Krugman 
>   New York Times, September 19, 2005 
>    . . . 
>   
>   And who can honestly deny that race is a major
> reason America treats its poor more harshly than any
> other advanced country? To put it crudely: a
> middle-class European, thinking about the poor, says
> to himself, "There but for the grace of God go I." A
> middle-class American is all too likely to think,
> perhaps without admitting it to himself, "Why should
> I be taxed to support those people?" 
>   . . . 
>    
>   So true! So sad, but true. 
>   
>   We can work around it by appealing to the "better
> angels" of our nature, but that's just never gonna
> happen screwing around with Democrats and
> Republicans and their openly racist politics. 
>   
>  
>   
>   Alex Walker 
>    
> 
> 
>    
>
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat May 19 00:29:52 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:29:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Al Gore on the effect of TV on politics,
	elections (book excerpt in Time)
Message-ID: <344311.8651.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Fowarded by Scott McLarty, media spokesperson of the
GP-US:

(I don't usually forward articles by Al Gore, but
this has some interesting information about the
effect of TV on politics and how dissent is
blocked from broadcast, which can be converted
into some good Green arguments for public funding
of campaigns and candidates free time on the
public airwaves. -- Scott) 


Al Gore on the effect of TV on politics, elections
(book excerpt in Time)
Date:	Fri, 18 May 2007 10:30:06 -0700 (PDT)

Book Excerpt: The Assault on Reason

By Al Gore
Time, May 16, 2007
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1622015,00.html

Not long before our nation launched the invasion
of Iraq, our longest-serving Senator, Robert Byrd
of West Virginia, stood on the Senate floor and
said: "This chamber is, for the most part,
silent?ominously, dreadfully silent. There is no
debate, no discussion, no attempt to lay out for
the nation the pros and cons of this particular
war. There is nothing. We stand passively mute in
the United States Senate." 

Why was the Senate silent? 

In describing the empty chamber the way he did,
Byrd invited a specific version of the same
general question millions of us have been asking:
"Why do reason, logic and truth seem to play a
sharply diminished role in the way America now
makes important decisions?" The persistent and
sustained reliance on falsehoods as the basis of
policy, even in the face of massive and
well-understood evidence to the contrary, seems
to many Americans to have reached levels that
were previously unimaginable. 

A large and growing number of Americans are
asking out loud: "What has happened to our
country?" People are trying to figure out what
has gone wrong in our democracy, and how we can
fix it. 

To take another example, for the first time in
American history, the Executive Branch of our
government has not only condoned but actively
promoted the treatment of captives in wartime
that clearly involves torture, thus overturning a
prohibition established by General George
Washington during the Revolutionary War. 

It is too easy?and too partisan?to simply place
the blame on the policies of President George W.
Bush. We are all responsible for the decisions
our country makes. We have a Congress. We have an
independent judiciary. We have checks and
balances. We are a nation of laws. We have free
speech. We have a free press. Have they all
failed us? Why has America's public discourse
become less focused and clear, less reasoned?
Faith in the power of reason?the belief that free
citizens can govern themselves wisely and fairly
by resorting to logical debate on the basis of
the best evidence available, instead of raw
power?remains the central premise of American
democracy. This premise is now under assault. 

American democracy is now in danger?not from any
one set of ideas, but from unprecedented changes
in the environment within which ideas either live
and spread, or wither and die. I do not mean the
physical environment; I mean what is called the
public sphere, or the marketplace of ideas. 

It is simply no longer possible to ignore the
strangeness of our public discourse. I know I am
not alone in feeling that something has gone
fundamentally wrong. In 2001, I had hoped it was
an aberration when polls showed that
three-quarters of Americans believed that Saddam
Hussein was responsible for attacking us on Sept.
11. More than five years later, however, nearly
half of the American public still believes Saddam
was connected to the attack. 

At first I thought the exhaustive, nonstop
coverage of the O.J. Simpson trial was just an
unfortunate excess?an unwelcome departure from
the normal good sense and judgment of our
television news media. Now we know that it was
merely an early example of a new pattern of
serial obsessions that periodically take over the
airwaves for weeks at a time: the Michael Jackson
trial and the Robert Blake trial, the Laci
Peterson tragedy and the Chandra Levy tragedy,
Britney and KFed, Lindsay and Paris and Nicole. 

While American television watchers were
collectively devoting 100 million hours of their
lives each week to these and other similar
stories, our nation was in the process of more
quietly making what future historians will
certainly describe as a series of
catastrophically mistaken decisions on issues of
war and peace, the global climate and human
survival, freedom and barbarity, justice and
fairness. For example, hardly anyone now
disagrees that the choice to invade Iraq was a
grievous mistake. Yet, incredibly, all of the
evidence and arguments necessary to have made the
right decision were available at the time and in
hindsight are glaringly obvious. 

Those of us who have served in the U.S. Senate
and watched it change over time could volunteer a
response to Senator Byrd's incisive description
of the Senate prior to the invasion: The chamber
was empty because the Senators were somewhere
else. Many of them were at fund-raising events
they now feel compelled to attend almost
constantly in order to collect money?much of it
from special interests?to buy 30-second TV
commercials for their next re-election campaign.
The Senate was silent because Senators don't feel
that what they say on the floor of the Senate
really matters that much anymore?not to the other
Senators, who are almost never present when their
colleagues speak, and certainly not to the
voters, because the news media seldom report on
Senate speeches anymore. 

Our Founders' faith in the viability of
representative democracy rested on their trust in
the wisdom of a well-informed citizenry, their
ingenious design for checks and balances, and
their belief that the rule of reason is the
natural sovereign of a free people. The Founders
took great care to protect the openness of the
marketplace of ideas so that knowledge could flow
freely. Thus they not only protected freedom of
assembly, they made a special point?in the First
Amendment?of protecting the freedom of the
printing press. And yet today, almost 45 years
have passed since the majority of Americans
received their news and information from the
printed word. Newspapers are hemorrhaging
readers. Reading itself is in decline. The
Republic of Letters has been invaded and occupied
by the empire of television. 

Radio, the Internet, movies, cell phones, iPods,
computers, instant messaging, video games and
personal digital assistants all now vie for our
attention?but it is television that still
dominates the flow of information. According to
an authoritative global study, Americans now
watch television an average of 4 hours and 35
minutes every day?90 minutes more than the world
average. When you assume eight hours of work a
day, six to eight hours of sleep and a couple of
hours to bathe, dress, eat and commute, that is
almost three-quarters of all the discretionary
time the average American has. 

In the world of television, the massive flows of
information are largely in only one direction,
which makes it virtually impossible for
individuals to take part in what passes for a
national conversation. Individuals receive, but
they cannot send. They hear, but they do not
speak. The "well-informed citizenry" is in danger
of becoming the "well-amused audience." Moreover,
the high capital investment required for the
ownership and operation of a television station
and the centralized nature of broadcast, cable
and satellite networks have led to the increasing
concentration of ownership by an ever smaller
number of larger corporations that now
effectively control the majority of television
programming in America. 

In practice, what television's dominance has come
to mean is that the inherent value of political
propositions put forward by candidates is now
largely irrelevant compared with the image-based
ad campaigns they use to shape the perceptions of
voters. The high cost of these commercials has
radically increased the role of money in
politics?and the influence of those who
contribute it. That is why campaign finance
reform, however well drafted, often misses the
main point: so long as the dominant means of
engaging in political dialogue is through
purchasing expensive television advertising,
money will continue in one way or another to
dominate American politics. And as a result,
ideas will continue to play a diminished role.
That is also why the House and Senate campaign
committees in both parties now search for
candidates who are multimillionaires and can buy
the ads with their own personal resources. 

When I first ran for Congress in 1976, I never
took a poll during the entire campaign. Eight
years later, however, when I ran statewide for
the U.S. Senate, I did take polls and like most
statewide candidates relied more heavily on
electronic advertising to deliver my message. I
vividly remember a turning point in that Senate
campaign when my opponent, a fine public servant
named Victor Ashe who has since become a close
friend, was narrowing the lead I had in the
polls. After a detailed review of all the polling
information and careful testing of potential TV
commercials, the anticipated response from my
opponent's campaign and the planned response to
the response, my advisers made a recommendation
and prediction that surprised me with its
specificity: "If you run this ad at this many
'points' [a measure of the size of the
advertising buy], and if Ashe responds as we
anticipate, and then we purchase this many points
to air our response to his response, the net
result after three weeks will be an increase of
8.5% in your lead in the polls." 

I authorized the plan and was astonished when
three weeks later my lead had increased by
exactly 8.5%. Though pleased, of course, for my
own campaign, I had a sense of foreboding for
what this revealed about our democracy. Clearly,
at least to some degree, the "consent of the
governed" was becoming a commodity to be
purchased by the highest bidder. To the extent
that money and the clever use of electronic mass
media could be used to manipulate the outcome of
elections, the role of reason began to diminish. 

As a college student, I wrote my senior thesis on
the impact of television on the balance of power
among the three branches of government. In the
study, I pointed out the growing importance of
visual rhetoric and body language over logic and
reason. There are countless examples of this, but
perhaps understandably, the first one that comes
to mind is from the 2000 campaign, long before
the Supreme Court decision and the hanging chads,
when the controversy over my sighs in the first
debate with George W. Bush created an impression
on television that for many viewers outweighed
whatever positive benefits I might have otherwise
gained in the verbal combat of ideas and
substance. A lot of good that senior thesis did
me. 

The potential for manipulating mass opinions and
feelings initially discovered by commercial
advertisers is now being even more aggressively
exploited by a new generation of media
Machiavellis. The combination of ever more
sophisticated public opinion sampling techniques
and the increasing use of powerful computers to
parse and subdivide the American people according
to "psychographic" categories that identify their
susceptibility to individually tailored appeals
has further magnified the power of propagandistic
electronic messaging that has created a harsh new
reality for the functioning of our democracy. 

As a result, our democracy is in danger of being
hollowed out. In order to reclaim our birthright,
we Americans must resolve to repair the systemic
decay of the public forum. We must create new
ways to engage in a genuine and not manipulative
conversation about our future. We must stop
tolerating the rejection and distortion of
science. We must insist on an end to the cynical
use of pseudo-studies known to be false for the
purpose of intentionally clouding the public's
ability to discern the truth. Americans in both
parties should insist on the re-establishment of
respect for the rule of reason. 

And what if an individual citizen or group of
citizens wants to enter the public debate by
expressing their views on television? Since they
cannot simply join the conversation, some of them
have resorted to raising money in order to buy 30
seconds in which to express their opinion. But
too often they are not allowed to do even that.
MoveOn.org tried to buy an ad for the 2004 Super
Bowl broadcast to express opposition to Bush's
economic policy, which was then being debated by
Congress. CBS told MoveOn that "issue advocacy"
was not permissible. Then, CBS, having refused
the MoveOn ad, began running advertisements by
the White House in favor of the president's
controversial proposal. So MoveOn complained, and
the White House ad was temporarily removed. By
temporarily, I mean it was removed until the
White House complained, and CBS immediately put
the ad back on, yet still refused to present the
MoveOn ad. 

To understand the final reason why the news
marketplace of ideas dominated by television is
so different from the one that emerged in the
world dominated by the printing press, it is
important to distinguish the quality of vividness
experienced by television viewers from the
"vividness" experienced by readers. Marshall
McLuhan's description of television as a "cool"
medium?as opposed to the "hot" medium of
print?was hard for me to understand when I read
it 40 years ago, because the source of "heat" in
his metaphor is the mental work required in the
alchemy of reading. But McLuhan was almost alone
in recognizing that the passivity associated with
watching television is at the expense of activity
in parts of the brain associated with abstract
thought, logic, and the reasoning process. Any
new dominant communications medium leads to a new
information ecology in society that inevitably
changes the way ideas, feelings, wealth, power
and influence are distributed and the way
collective decisions are made. 

As a young lawyer giving his first significant
public speech at the age of 28, Abraham Lincoln
warned that a persistent period of dysfunction
and unresponsiveness by government could alienate
the American people and that "the strongest
bulwark of any government, and particularly of
those constituted like ours, may effectively be
broken down and destroyed?I mean the attachment
of the people." Many Americans now feel that our
government is unresponsive and that no one in
power listens to or cares what they think. They
feel disconnected from democracy. They feel that
one vote makes no difference, and that they, as
individuals, have no practical means of
participating in America's self-government.
Unfortunately, they are not entirely wrong.
Voters are often viewed mainly as targets for
easy manipulation by those seeking their
"consent" to exercise power. By using focus
groups and elaborate polling techniques, those
who design these messages are able to derive the
only information they're interested in receiving
from citizens?feedback useful in fine-tuning
their efforts at manipulation. Over time, the
lack of authenticity becomes obvious and takes
its toll in the form of cynicism and alienation.
And the more Americans disconnect from the
democratic process, the less legitimate it
becomes. 

Many young Americans now seem to feel that the
jury is out on whether American democracy
actually works or not. We have created a wealthy
society with tens of millions of talented,
resourceful individuals who play virtually no
role whatsoever as citizens. Bringing these
people in?with their networks of influence, their
knowledge, and their resources?is the key to
creating the capacity for shared intelligence
that we need to solve our problems. 

Unfortunately, the legacy of the 20th century's
ideologically driven bloodbaths has included a
new cynicism about reason itself?because reason
was so easily used by propagandists to disguise
their impulse to power by cloaking it in clever
and seductive intellectual formulations. When
people don't have an opportunity to interact on
equal terms and test the validity of what they're
being "taught" in the light of their own
experience and robust, shared dialogue, they
naturally begin to resist the assumption that the
experts know best. 

So the remedy for what ails our democracy is not
simply better education (as important as that is)
or civic education (as important as that can be),
but the re-establishment of a genuine democratic
discourse in which individuals can participate in
a meaningful way?a conversation of democracy in
which meritorious ideas and opinions from
individuals do, in fact, evoke a meaningful
response. 

Fortunately, the Internet has the potential to
revitalize the role played by the people in our
constitutional framework. It has extremely low
entry barriers for individuals. It is the most
interactive medium in history and the one with
the greatest potential for connecting individuals
to one another and to a universe of knowledge.
It's a platform for pursuing the truth, and the
decentralized creation and distribution of ideas,
in the same way that markets are a decentralized
mechanism for the creation and distribution of
goods and services. It's a platform, in other
words, for reason. But the Internet must be
developed and protected, in the same way we
develop and protect markets?through the
establishment of fair rules of engagement and the
exercise of the rule of law. The same ferocity
that our Founders devoted to protect the freedom
and independence of the press is now appropriate
for our defense of the freedom of the Internet.
The stakes are the same: the survival of our
Republic. We must ensure that the Internet
remains open and accessible to all citizens
without any limitation on the ability of
individuals to choose the content they wish
regardless of the Internet service provider they
use to connect to the Web. We cannot take this
future for granted. We must be prepared to fight
for it, because of the threat of corporate
consolidation and control over the Internet
marketplace of ideas. 

The danger arises because there is, in most
markets, a very small number of broadband network
operators. These operators have the structural
capacity to determine the way in which
information is transmitted over the Internet and
the speed with which it is delivered. And the
present Internet network operators?principally
large telephone and cable companies?have an
economic incentive to extend their control over
the physical infrastructure of the network to
leverage control of Internet content. If they
went about it in the wrong way, these companies
could institute changes that have the effect of
limiting the free flow of information over the
Internet in a number of troubling ways. 

The democratization of knowledge by the print
medium brought the Enlightenment. Now, broadband
interconnection is supporting decentralized
processes that reinvigorate democracy. We can see
it happening before our eyes: As a society, we
are getting smarter. Networked democracy is
taking hold. You can feel it. We the people?as
Lincoln put it, "even we here"?are collectively
still the key to the survival of America's
democracy. 

___________________

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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 19 21:26:05 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 21:26:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22
Message-ID: <464FCDDD.5050004@sbcglobal.net>

Retired Lt. col. USAF Robert M. Bowman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman

will be speaking in San Jose Tuesday evening May 22-nd at 7 pm in the
Campbell Community Center's Orchard City Banquet Hall.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1

He campaigned for Congress in Florida in 2006 and is trying again in 2008:
http://www.bowman2008.com/

We raised awareness about the illegal war in Iraq.
We pounded away on the need for National Health Care.
We spoke out for the middle class and the underclass and never backed down
  on economic issues - "every wage a living wage!"

He has also sent open letters to presidents Clinton and Bush:
excerpt from http://rmbowman.com/ssn/Terror2.htm

There is. But to understand it requires that we know the truth about the 
threat. Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth 
about why we are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the 
target because we stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the 
world. Baloney! We are the target of terrorists because we stand for 
dictatorship, bondage, and human exploitation in the world. We are the 
target of terrorists because we are hated. And we are hated because we 
have done hateful things.

In how many countries have we deposed popularly elected leaders and 
replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell 
out their own people to American multinational corporations?




From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Sat May 19 23:50:50 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 02:50:50 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22/Retired Lt. col.
	USAF Robert M. Bowman
Message-ID: <c30.12c071d3.338149ca@aol.com>

Hi All,
I looked up the wikipedia site Jim Doyle put in his email. After reading 
about Bowman I'm definitely going to hear him talk and I encourage you all to 
attend his talk.  Please see below information on Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman. I 
encourage you to read the entire page in Wikipedia on Robert M. Bowman.

Jim, thank you for letting us know about Robert Bowman speaking this Tuesday 
in Campbell. 

The Campbell Community Center is located at 1 W. Campbell Ave. (corner of 
Campbell Ave & Winchester Blvd in Campbell.

Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman's talk is being held in the Orchard City Banquet 
Hall.  This hall
holds 300 people. 

Merriam 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
Robert M. Bowman

>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Robert M. Bowman (born 1934) was a former Director of Advanced Space Programs 
Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, 
and a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat 
missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the California 
Institute of Technology.

Bowman is the founder and Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church, 
an "independent Catholic fellowship" created in 1996 and held to be connected 
through apostolic succession to the Old Catholic Church.<SUP class=reference 
id=_ref-0>[1] Additionally, he is Executive Director of Christian Support 
Ministries.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-1>[2] He also believes the US government 
was complicit in the September 11, 2001]


Despite his involvement with space programs and defense, he emerged as an 
early public critic of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI, also aka "Star 
Wars") during the Ronald Reagan administration. On The MacNeil-Lehrer News Hour, 
he called it "the ultimate military lunacy, easily overwhelmed and vulnerable".<
SUP class=reference id=_ref-2>[3] Bowman founded the Institute for Space and 
Security Studies, and its publication Space & Security News (1983) (ISSN 
1071-2569), and authored two books on the subject of SDI. He is also a critic of an 
outgrowth of the SDI program, the Bush administration's proposed National 
Missile Defense.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-3>[4]

For several years he has been active with Veterans for Peace and Vietnam 
Veterans Against the War as a speaker.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-4>[5]<SUP 
class=reference id=_ref-5>[6]<SUP class=reference id=_ref-6>[7] He had also been a 
member of the Peace Commission of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington.<SUP 
class=reference id=_ref-7>[8]

In 1998, Project Censored cited Bowman's article "Our Continuing War Against 
Iraq," in the May 1998 issue of Space and Security News as one of the few 
(along with Bill Blum of the San Francisco Bay Guardian and Dennis Bernstein) 
covering what they deemed the fifth most censored story, "U.S. Weapons of Mass 
Destruction Linked to the Deaths of Half a Million Children."<SUP class=reference 
id=_ref-8>[9] The WMDs referred to are the biological samples sent to Iraq 
from the United States up to 1989, and use of depleted uranium during the Gulf 
War.

Bowman holds the belief that the US government was complicit in the September 
11, 2001 attacks. On September 11, 2004 in New York City, Bowman said "...the 
official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It's impossible". <
SUP class=reference id=_ref-9>[10] On the 2006 9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda 
Symposium, he stated: "I'm an old interceptor pilot, I know the drill, I've done 
it. I know how long it takes, I know the rules... and... critics on the 
government story on 9/11 have said: "Well, they knew about this, and they did nothing"
. That's not true. If our government had done nothing that day, and let normal 
procedure be followed, those planes, wherever they were, would have been 
intercepted, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead 
Americans would still be alive."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-10>[11]

Because of his beliefs, he is part of the movement to impeach George W. Bush. 
He is also a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, founded in January 2006 by 
James H. Fetzer.


Subj:   [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22?    
Date:   5/19/2007 9:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time  
From:   j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net 
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org    
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    


Retired Lt. col. USAF Robert M. Bowman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman

will be speaking in San Jose Tuesday evening May 22-nd at 7 pm in the
Campbell Community Center's Orchard City Banquet Hall.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&
formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&
city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&
formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&
city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1

He campaigned for Congress in Florida in 2006 and is trying again in 2008:
http://www.bowman2008.com/

We raised awareness about the illegal war in Iraq.
We pounded away on the need for National Health Care.
We spoke out for the middle class and the underclass and never backed down
? on economic issues - "every wage a living wage!"

He has also sent open letters to presidents Clinton and Bush:
excerpt from http://rmbowman.com/ssn/Terror2.htm

There is. But to understand it requires that we know the truth about the 
threat. Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth 
about why we are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the 
target because we stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the 
world. Baloney! We are the target of terrorists because we stand for 
dictatorship, bondage, and human exploitation in the world. We are the 
target of terrorists because we are hated. And we are hated because we 
have done hateful things.

In how many countries have we deposed popularly elected leaders and 
replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell 
out their own people to American multinational corporations?













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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Sun May 20 00:05:08 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 00:05:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22/Retired Lt.
 col.USAF Robert M. Bowman
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MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote:

> Hi All,
> I looked up the wikipedia site Jim Doyle put in his email. After 
> reading about Bowman I'm definitely going to hear him talk and I 
> encourage you all to attend his talk.  Please see below information on 
> Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman. I encourage you to read the entire page in 
> Wikipedia on Robert M. Bowman.
>
> Jim, thank you for letting us know about Robert Bowman speaking this 
> Tuesday in Campbell.
>
> The Campbell Community Center is located at 1 W. Campbell Ave. (corner 
> of Campbell Ave & Winchester Blvd in Campbell.
>
> Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman's talk is being held in the Orchard City 
> Banquet Hall.  This hall
> holds 300 people.

How far is that from the nearest light rail stop, and which stop is it?

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Sun May 20 00:20:15 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 03:20:15 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] speaker Tues eve 5/22/Retired Lt. col.USAF Robert
	M. Bowman
Message-ID: <c6f.f0f9452.338150af@aol.com>

tnharter at ispwest.com wrote:

How far is that from the nearest light rail stop, and which stop is it?

Tian, the nearest light rail stop is at Creekside and Hamilton Ave., near the 
Pruneyard.

Merriam

Subj:   Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22/Retired Lt. 
col.USAF Robert M. Bowman?    
Date:   5/20/2007 12:00:45 AM Pacific Standard Time 
From:   tnharter at ispwest.com    
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org    
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MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote:

> Hi All,
> I looked up the wikipedia site Jim Doyle put in his email. After 
> reading about Bowman I'm definitely going to hear him talk and I 
> encourage you all to attend his talk.? Please see below information on 
> Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman. I encourage you to read the entire page in 
> Wikipedia on Robert M. Bowman.
>
> Jim, thank you for letting us know about Robert Bowman speaking this 
> Tuesday in Campbell.
>
> The Campbell Community Center is located at 1 W. Campbell Ave. (corner 
> of Campbell Ave & Winchester Blvd in Campbell.
>
> Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman's talk is being held in the Orchard City 
> Banquet Hall.? This hall
> holds 300 people.

How far is that from the nearest light rail stop, and which stop is it?

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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Sun May 20 01:04:54 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 04:04:54 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22
Message-ID: <cf9.102d56d5.33815b26@aol.com>

Jim, do you know what Robert Bowman is speaking on?  What is the cost?  Who 
is presenting his talk?

Thanks,
Merriam

Subj:   [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22?    
Date:   5/19/2007 9:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time  
From:   j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net 
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org    
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Retired Lt. col. USAF Robert M. Bowman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman

will be speaking in San Jose Tuesday evening May 22-nd at 7 pm in the
Campbell Community Center's Orchard City Banquet Hall.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&
formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&
city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&
formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&
city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1

He campaigned for Congress in Florida in 2006 and is trying again in 2008:
http://www.bowman2008.com/

We raised awareness about the illegal war in Iraq.
We pounded away on the need for National Health Care.
We spoke out for the middle class and the underclass and never backed down
? on economic issues - "every wage a living wage!"

He has also sent open letters to presidents Clinton and Bush:
excerpt from http://rmbowman.com/ssn/Terror2.htm

There is. But to understand it requires that we know the truth about the 
threat. Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth 
about why we are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the 
target because we stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the 
world. Baloney! We are the target of terrorists because we stand for 
dictatorship, bondage, and human exploitation in the world. We are the 
target of terrorists because we are hated. And we are hated because we 
have done hateful things.

In how many countries have we deposed popularly elected leaders and 
replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell 
out their own people to American multinational corporations?





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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 08:44:43 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 08:44:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22/Retired Lt.
	col.USAF Robert M. Bowman
In-Reply-To: <464FF324.8050402@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <140279.45428.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

That is like 4 blocks or so from the Downtown Campbell
Light Rail station.  Definitely walkable.

Green 

--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:

> MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> > I looked up the wikipedia site Jim Doyle put in
> his email. After 
> > reading about Bowman I'm definitely going to hear
> him talk and I 
> > encourage you all to attend his talk.  Please see
> below information on 
> > Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman. I encourage you to read
> the entire page in 
> > Wikipedia on Robert M. Bowman.
> >
> > Jim, thank you for letting us know about Robert
> Bowman speaking this 
> > Tuesday in Campbell.
> >
> > The Campbell Community Center is located at 1 W.
> Campbell Ave. (corner 
> > of Campbell Ave & Winchester Blvd in Campbell.
> >
> > Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman's talk is being held in
> the Orchard City 
> > Banquet Hall.  This hall
> > holds 300 people.
> 
> How far is that from the nearest light rail stop,
> and which stop is it?
> 
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: Added Peter Bickford memorial and
> KFOG KaBOOM pictures.
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 15:54:03 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 15:54:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Nader: Why the Current Antiwar Movement is So
	Impotent
Message-ID: <258601.55184.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Why the Current Antiwar Movement is So Impotent

By Ralph Nader
Common Dreams, May 19, 2007
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/19/1313/


The current issue of the UTNE Reader (May - June
?07) carried a short but sensibly provocative
article protesting the stagnation and the
cul-de-sac nature of street protests that involve
nonviolent civil disobedience.Joseph Hart, the
author, asks why the current antiwar movement is
so impotent, despite ?a staggering 67 percent
disapproval of President Bush?s handling of the
war - a level that matches public sentiment at
the tail end of the Vietnam War, when street
protests, rallies, and student strikes were daily
occurrences.?

He believes it is because, quoting Jack DuVall,
president of the International Center on
Nonviolent Conflict, that ?a street demonstration
is only one form of protest and protest is only
one tactic that can be used in a campaign. If
it?s not a part of a dedicated strategy to change
policy, or to change power, protest is only a
form of political exhibitionism.?

Both gentlemen are being incomplete. Even without
a military draft in place to arouse a larger
public, the protestors against the Iraq war have
affected the 2006 elections, performed sit-ins in
Congressional offices, filed lawsuits against
Bush?s violations of people?s civil liberties,
brought Iraqi spokespeople to meet with
influential Americans, worked with Iraq veterans
against the war as well as with numerous former
high ranking military, diplomatic and
intelligence officials now retired from service
in both Republican and Democratic Administrations
who openly opposed the invasion at the outset.

Clearly all this has not been enough to move the
Democrats to decisive action.

The obstinate, messianic militarist in the White
House remains unmoved. With his ignorance of
history itself becoming historic, this latter day
obsessively compulsed, King George thinks he?s a
21st century Winston Churchill.

Through the wide arc of his persistent
lawlessness, Mr. Bush has done the country much
damage here and abroad. But he has also
demonstrated how variously the rule of law can be
swept aside with impunity. He is both outside and
above the Constitution, federal statutes,
international treaties to which the U.S. is
solemn signatory, and the restraints of the
Congress and the federal courts.

A major restructuring of our laws to embrace the
outlaw Presidency under Mr. Bush, or any
like-minded successors, now has a solid empirical
basis from which to move forward. Presidential
outlawry did not start with Mr. Bush. It has been
building up for a long time going from the
episodic to institutionalized forms.

For example, it is now routine for the courts to
opt out of giving any citizen, group or member of
Congress legal standing on matters of foreign and
military policy even to plead their cases against
the President. Here the courtroom door is closed.

For Mr. Bush, what would be repeated criminal
negligence by anyone else, there has been
immunity from lawsuits by families of soldiers -
and there were hundreds of them - who died
because they were not provided with body and
Humvee armor over three years of more in Iraq.
Immunity even from equitable lawsuits seeking a
mandamus for obligated action ignored by the
President.

The Bush officials had the funds with which to
procure these shields but somehow the
Halliburtons got more of their urgent attention.

Clearly, the diverse opposition to Bush?s war
needs to move to higher levels. More meticulous
lobbying in Congressional Districts, more
pressure to initiate impeachment hearings, more
exposure to what the Iraqi people, suffering so
terribly, want, much more organized focus by the
retired, established military and civilian
officials whose previous courage and experience
give them great credibility today.

The number of active duty soldiers petitioning
their member of Congress to end the war now
exceeds twelve hundred. Since 72% of the soldiers
in Iraq wanted the U.S. out within six to twelve
months in a Zogby poll released very early in
2006, there is more potential from this source of
actual military theatre experience.

The timid, anti-war members of Congress require
more than all this opposition. Apparently they
are looking for intensity, for more people having
the war on their minds, demanding that the huge
monies for this overseas destruction be turned
into providing necessities for their communities.

These lawmakers seem to need to be buttonholed
whenever they return to their Districts. In
Washington, they keep saying things like, ?Yeah,
I know the polls but Americans are more
interested in American Idol and their iPods.?

So, Americans, start the buttonhole movement - at
their Congress members? town meetings, at the
clambakes they attend this summer, at the local
parades where they strut, over at their local
office (see the yellow pages listing under U.S.
Government for the addresses and phone numbers)
and through letters and telephone calls. You
count when you make them count you.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 16:03:15 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 16:03:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Single Payer Bill - SB840 - on CA. Sen. Floor by
	Ju 8-need to Lobby (esp. Simitian)
Message-ID: <65641.6589.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This from the Healthcare Committee.  And by the way,
we had something like 45 people attend the Healthcare
Forum last Friday night that was Co-sponsored by the
Green Pary of Santa Clara County!

Green for life!

Drew

Subject: SB840 goes to Senate Floor by June 8-need to
Lobby

SB 840 (Kuehl) is a policy bill that must be voted out
of its house of origin by June 8. Therefore, sometime
in June it will be taken out of 'suspense,' passed by
the Appropriations Committee and sent to the Senate
floor. 

These are the 10 Dems who aren't yet Co-authors. We
need for you to contact them to become
Co-Authors(preferable) or "Can we count on
Senator_______ to vote Yes on 840?".
Please let me know what they say.
For local folks I will be making an appt. tomorrow
(Monday 5/21)to visit Joe Simitian at his Palo Alto
Town And Country Village office.
Please email me if you are his constituent and wish to
be in the lobby visit.

   1. Ron Calderon Montebello 916-651-4030
senator.calderon at senate.ca.gov
   2. Lou Correa Santa Ana 916-651-4034
senator.correa at senate.ca.gov
   3. Denise Ducheny Chula Vista 916-651-4040
senator.ducheny at senate.ca.gov
   4. Christine Kehoe San Diego 916-651-4039
senator.kehoe at senate.ca.gov
   5. Mike Machado Stockton 916-651-4005
senator.machado at senate.ca.gov
   6. Gloria Negrete-McLeod Montclair 916-651-4032
senator.negrete at senate.ca.gov
   7. Jack Scott Pasadena 916-651-4021
senator.scott at senate.ca.gov
   8. Joe Simitian Palo Alto/Santa Cruz 916-651-4011
senator.simitian at senate.ca.gov
   9. Tom Torlakson Concord 916-651-4007
senator.torlakson at senate.ca.gov
  10. Ed Vincent Inglewood 916-651-4025
senator.vincent at senate.ca.gov  

Lynn Huidekoper, RN
Legislative Liaison
Director -Health Care for All Californians-Silicon
Valley Coalition
Sheila Kuehl's Single Payer SB840
Menlo Park CA.
650-322-9609
http://www.onecarenow.org
http://www.healthcareforall.org
With Unity There is Strength

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 16:06:11 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 16:06:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SB840 Single Payer Bill Factsheet
Message-ID: <432558.61982.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Latest SB840 Fact Sheet from Sen. Kuehl's website

Here's the url/link to the latest Fact Sheet that many
of us have been using developed by Sen. Kuehl's staff.

Check out her (Sen. Kuehl's) website which has a very
nice section on 840 with links.
http://dist23.casen.govoffice.com/vertical/Sites/{6A93A017-DA3B-4A59-866F-E9FDC3D31EAB}/uploads/{A5F04C00-9162-457A-95DF-495D42B78CD7}.PDF


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 21:22:43 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How Single-Payer SB840 effects Seniors Th, May 24,
	SJ
Message-ID: <348715.35846.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Learn how SB840 effects Seniors this Thursday, May 24
Date:	Sun, 20 May 2007 16:47:16 -0700

Seniors and the Health Care Debate in CA

May 24, 2007: 1pm

Carpenter?s Hiring Hall ? South Bay Labor Council

2102 Almaden Rd, San Jose

Agenda

Call to Order (10 min) Carol Garvey, SEIU 521
CARA(Californian Alliance of Retired Americans) Santa
Clara CAT(Community Action Team)Convener
Welcome
Introductions
Review Agenda

Presentation of DVD (20 min)
SB 840 and Single Payer (15 min) Cindy Young, CSEA
(What it is, why we need, status of bill)
Why Nurses Support Single Payer (5 minutes) Pam
Shramm, RN, CNA
Personal Story (5 minutes) CHAM member
Why Seniors Need Single Payer (5 min) Carol Dalrymple,
HCA

Questions and Answer Period (15 min)
Call to Action (15 min) Jodi Reid,

    * Join the S.C.CAT CARA No CAL Organizer

Meets 4th Thursday at 12:30 at 2102 Almaden Rd, San
Jose (Rm 110- lunch provided)

    * Sign postcard on SB 840
    * Call your State Senator
          o Vote Yes on SB 840/SB 1041 Single Payer
Health Care
    * Sign postcard on Social Security/Medicare
    * Invite CARA to speak at your senior center,
retiree group, etc.

Adjourn


Lynn Huidekoper, RN
Legislative Liaison
Director -Health Care for All Californians-Silicon
Valley Coalition
Sheila Kuehl's Single Payer SB840
Menlo Park CA.
650-322-9609
http://www.onecarenow.org
http://www.healthcareforall.org
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 20 21:35:42 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:35:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Comparing pros and cons of hybrids v bikes?
Message-ID: <935975.27771.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Calling people like Rob Means and others who can
answer this:  

--- hhart at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu wrote:

A few questions and requests recently came in.  I
figure this is as good a place as any to find resident
experts and advice!
 
Is anyone here knowledgeable about various modes
of transportation that could evaluate the pros and
cons between hybrids and motorcycles?



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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 21 10:39:18 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:39:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Tuesday speaker
Message-ID: <4651D946.5050205@sbcglobal.net>

I have a flyer with the heading
TAKE BACK AMERICA
The event is free, donations accepted.

... he explains why we need a government that ...
follows the constitution
honors the truth
serves the people



From cbrouillet at igc.org  Mon May 21 11:59:11 2007
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:59:11 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] USAF Robert M. Bowman- JUNE 12th!!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <c30.12c071d3.338149ca@aol.com>
References: <c30.12c071d3.338149ca@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1HqD5u-00043f-00@pop01.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

I think you have the wrong date!

Dr. Bob Bowman "Take Back America Tour"
Tuesday, June 12th, 2007, at 7:00 p.m.
Orchard City Banquet Hall
Campbell Community Center
1 W. Campbell Avenue, Campbell, California

Dr. Bowman is a Lt. Col., USAF, ret. He directed all DoD "Star Wars" 
programs under presidents Ford and Carter, and he retired as 
Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church. His Ph.D. is in 
Aeronautics & Nuclear Engineering from Cal Tech. He has lectured at 
the National War College, the United Nations, the Academies of 
Science of six nations, and the House of Lords. He ran for Congress 
in 2006, and was one of the few 9/11 Truth candidates.
Dr. Bowman's mission is to educate the public on the critical issues 
facing this country. He explains why we need a government that (1) 
Follows the Constitution, (2) Honors the Truth, and (3) Serves the People.

"Think what a difference that would make! No more imperial 
presidency. No more undeclared wars of aggression. No more spying on 
the American people. No more jailing of dissidents. No more 
corporations importing and exploiting millions of illegal immigrants 
to drive down wages. No more exporting of jobs. No more NAFTA. No 
more North American Union. No more government lies, false-flag 
attacks, and cover-ups. No more corporate welfare. No more health 
plans written by insurance companies and pharmaceutical 
manufacturers. No more energy policies written by Exxon and Enron. No 
more trillions in debt."

More details on this nationwide tour are available at- 
<http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070301114303980>http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070301114303980



At 11:50 PM 5/19/2007, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>I looked up the wikipedia site Jim Doyle put in his email. After 
>reading about Bowman I'm definitely going to hear him talk and I 
>encourage you all to attend his talk.  Please see below information 
>on Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman. I encourage you to read the entire 
>page in Wikipedia on Robert M. Bowman.
>
>Jim, thank you for letting us know about Robert Bowman speaking this 
>Tuesday in Campbell.
>
>The Campbell Community Center is located at 1 W. Campbell Ave. 
>(corner of Campbell Ave & Winchester Blvd in Campbell.
>
>Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman's talk is being held in the Orchard City 
>Banquet Hall.  This hall
>holds 300 people.
>
>Merriam
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
>
>Robert M. Bowman
>
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>
>Robert M. Bowman (born 1934) was a former Director of Advanced Space 
>Programs Development for the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Air_Force>U.S. Air Force in the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford>Ford and 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter>Carter administrations, 
>and a former 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force>United States 
>Air Force 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Colonel_%28United_States%29>Lieutenant 
>Colonel with 101 combat missions. He holds a Ph.D. in 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautics>Aeronautics and 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Engineering>Nuclear 
>Engineering from the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Institute_of_Technology>California 
>Institute of Technology.
>
>Bowman is the founder and Presiding Archbishop of the United 
>Catholic Church, an "independent Catholic fellowship" created in 
>1996 and held to be connected through 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Succession>apostolic 
>succession to the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Catholic_Church>Old Catholic 
>Church.<SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-0><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-0>[1] Additionally, 
>he is Executive Director of Christian Support Ministries.<SUP 
>class=reference id=_ref-1><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-1>[2] 
>He also believes the US government was complicit in the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11%2C_2001_attacks>September 11, 2001]
>
>
>Despite his involvement with space programs and defense, he emerged 
>as an early public critic of the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative>Strategic 
>Defense Initiative (SDI, also aka "Star Wars") during the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan>Ronald Reagan 
>administration. On 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_NewsHour_with_Jim_Lehrer>The 
>MacNeil-Lehrer News Hour, he called it "the ultimate military 
>lunacy, easily overwhelmed and vulnerable".<SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-2><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-2>[3] Bowman founded 
>the Institute for Space and Security Studies, and its publication 
>Space & Security News (1983) (ISSN 1071-2569), and authored two 
>books on the subject of SDI. He is also a critic of an outgrowth of 
>the SDI program, the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush>Bush administration's 
>proposed 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Defense>National 
>Missile Defense.<SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-3><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-3>[4]
>
>For several years he has been active with 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_for_Peace>Veterans for Peace 
>and 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Veterans_Against_the_War>Vietnam 
>Veterans Against the War as a speaker.<SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-4><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-4>[5]<SUP 
>class=reference 
>id=_ref-5><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-5>[6]<SUP 
>class=reference id=_ref-6><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-6>[7] 
>He had also been a member of the Peace Commission of the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Diocese_of_Washington>Episcopal 
>Diocese of Washington.<SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-7><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-7>[8]
>
>In 1998, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Censored>Project 
>Censored cited Bowman's article "Our Continuing War Against Iraq," 
>in the May 1998 issue of Space and Security News as one of the few 
>(along with Bill Blum of the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Guardian>San 
>Francisco Bay Guardian and 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bernstein>Dennis Bernstein) 
>covering what they deemed the fifth most censored story, "U.S. 
>Weapons of Mass Destruction Linked to the Deaths of Half a Million 
>Children."<SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-8><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-8>[9] The WMDs 
>referred to are the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Biological_weapons>biological 
>samples sent to Iraq from the United States up to 1989, and use of 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium>depleted uranium 
>during the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War>Gulf War.
>
>Bowman holds the belief that the US government was complicit in the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11%2C_2001_attacks>September 
>11, 2001 attacks. On September 11, 2004 in New York City, Bowman 
>said "...the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of 
>hogwash. It's impossible". <SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-9><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-9>[10] On the 2006 
>9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda Symposium, he stated: "I'm an old 
>interceptor pilot, I know the drill, I've done it. I know how long 
>it takes, I know the rules... and... critics on the government story 
>on 9/11 have said: "Well, they knew about this, and they did 
>nothing". That's not true. If our government had done nothing that 
>day, and let normal procedure be followed, those planes, wherever 
>they were, would have been intercepted, the Twin Towers would still 
>be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be 
>alive."<SUP class=reference 
>id=_ref-10><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-10>[11]
>
>Because of his beliefs, he is part of the 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_to_impeach_George_W._Bush>movement 
>to impeach George W. Bush. He is also a member of 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholars_for_9/11_Truth>Scholars for 
>9/11 Truth, founded in January 2006 by 
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer>James H. Fetzer.
>
>
>Subj: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22
>Date: 5/19/2007 9:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time
>From: <mailto:j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net
>To: <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Sent from the Internet (Details)
>
>
>
>Retired Lt. col. USAF Robert M. Bowman
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
>
>will be speaking in San Jose Tuesday evening May 22-nd at 7 pm in the
>Campbell Community Center's Orchard City Banquet Hall.
>
>http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1
>http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1
>
>He campaigned for Congress in Florida in 2006 and is trying again in 2008:
>http://www.bowman2008.com/
>
>We raised awareness about the illegal war in Iraq.
>We pounded away on the need for National Health Care.
>We spoke out for the middle class and the underclass and never backed down
>   on economic issues - "every wage a living wage!"
>
>He has also sent open letters to presidents Clinton and Bush:
>excerpt from http://rmbowman.com/ssn/Terror2.htm
>
>There is. But to understand it requires that we know the truth about the
>threat. Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth
>about why we are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the
>target because we stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the
>world. Baloney! We are the target of terrorists because we stand for
>dictatorship, bondage, and human exploitation in the world. We are the
>target of terrorists because we are hated. And we are hated because we
>have done hateful things.
>
>In how many countries have we deposed popularly elected leaders and
>replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell
>out their own people to American multinational corporations?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Mon May 21 14:47:52 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:47:52 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Comparing pros and cons of hybrids v bikes?
In-Reply-To: <935975.27771.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <935975.27771.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46521388.7000209@ispwest.com>

JamBoi wrote:

>Calling people like Rob Means and others who can
>answer this:  
>
>--- hhart at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu wrote:
>
>A few questions and requests recently came in.  I
>figure this is as good a place as any to find resident
>experts and advice!
> 
>Is anyone here knowledgeable about various modes
>of transportation that could evaluate the pros and
>cons between hybrids and motorcycles?
>
>  
>
Ummm... I've never driven a hybrid, but from the specs and what
I remember from the years I had a motorized two wheeler:

Motocycles are much worse in winter weather.

Motorcycles have much less energy involved with manufacturing.

Motorcycles I remember need more maintanance than cars in general.

Motorcycles are much easier to park.

Hybrids have much better range on a tank of gas.

Hybrids can carry much more stuff.

Motorcycle insurance is much cheaper than car insurance.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added Peter Bickford memorial and KFOG KaBOOM pictures.



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 21 16:52:15 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 16:52:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Comparing pros and cons of hybrids v
	motorcycles?
In-Reply-To: <46521388.7000209@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <737267.26111.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thanks Tian!  Others?  Rob?

Green greenies for planet Earth!

Drew

--- Tian Harter <tnharter at ispwest.com> wrote:

> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> >Calling people like Rob Means and others who can
> >answer this:  
> >
> >--- hhart at blue.weeg.uiowa.edu wrote:
> >
> >A few questions and requests recently came in.  I
> >figure this is as good a place as any to find
> resident
> >experts and advice!
> > 
> >Is anyone here knowledgeable about various modes
> >of transportation that could evaluate the pros and
> >cons between hybrids and motorcycles?
> >
> >  
> >
> Ummm... I've never driven a hybrid, but from the
> specs and what
> I remember from the years I had a motorized two
> wheeler:
> 
> Motocycles are much worse in winter weather.
> 
> Motorcycles have much less energy involved with
> manufacturing.
> 
> Motorcycles I remember need more maintanance than
> cars in general.
> 
> Motorcycles are much easier to park.
> 
> Hybrids have much better range on a tank of gas.
> 
> Hybrids can carry much more stuff.
> 
> Motorcycle insurance is much cheaper than car
> insurance.
> 
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: Added Peter Bickford memorial and
> KFOG KaBOOM pictures.
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 21 17:53:41 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:53:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NOT TUESDAY!!! USAF Robert M. Bowman- JUNE
	12th!!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <E1HqD5u-00043f-00@pop01.mail.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <196078.65872.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

It looks like Bowman will be in Oxnard/Ventura this
Tuesday! See the schedule here:
http://thepatriots.us/pg_01_events_tourSchedule.php
Thanks to Carol for alerting us!

So I'm going to post an alternative counter-protest
event for tomorrow night.  The Silicon Valley GOP is
having an obnoxious anti-common sense movie pushing
the hair brained theory of Global Warming being a
fiction!  I'll post it separately.

Greens for Planet Earth!

Drew


--- Carol Brouillet <cbrouillet at igc.org> wrote:

> I think you have the wrong date!
> 
> Dr. Bob Bowman "Take Back America Tour"
> Tuesday, June 12th, 2007, at 7:00 p.m.
> Orchard City Banquet Hall
> Campbell Community Center
> 1 W. Campbell Avenue, Campbell, California
> 
> Dr. Bowman is a Lt. Col., USAF, ret. He directed all
> DoD "Star Wars" 
> programs under presidents Ford and Carter, and he
> retired as 
> Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic Church.
> His Ph.D. is in 
> Aeronautics & Nuclear Engineering from Cal Tech. He
> has lectured at 
> the National War College, the United Nations, the
> Academies of 
> Science of six nations, and the House of Lords. He
> ran for Congress 
> in 2006, and was one of the few 9/11 Truth
> candidates.
> Dr. Bowman's mission is to educate the public on the
> critical issues 
> facing this country. He explains why we need a
> government that (1) 
> Follows the Constitution, (2) Honors the Truth, and
> (3) Serves the People.
> 
> "Think what a difference that would make! No more
> imperial 
> presidency. No more undeclared wars of aggression.
> No more spying on 
> the American people. No more jailing of dissidents.
> No more 
> corporations importing and exploiting millions of
> illegal immigrants 
> to drive down wages. No more exporting of jobs. No
> more NAFTA. No 
> more North American Union. No more government lies,
> false-flag 
> attacks, and cover-ups. No more corporate welfare.
> No more health 
> plans written by insurance companies and
> pharmaceutical 
> manufacturers. No more energy policies written by
> Exxon and Enron. No 
> more trillions in debt."
> 
> More details on this nationwide tour are available
> at- 
>
<http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070301114303980>http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070301114303980
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:50 PM 5/19/2007, you wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >I looked up the wikipedia site Jim Doyle put in his
> email. After 
> >reading about Bowman I'm definitely going to hear
> him talk and I 
> >encourage you all to attend his talk.  Please see
> below information 
> >on Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman. I encourage you to
> read the entire 
> >page in Wikipedia on Robert M. Bowman.
> >
> >Jim, thank you for letting us know about Robert
> Bowman speaking this 
> >Tuesday in Campbell.
> >
> >The Campbell Community Center is located at 1 W.
> Campbell Ave. 
> >(corner of Campbell Ave & Winchester Blvd in
> Campbell.
> >
> >Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman's talk is being held in
> the Orchard City 
> >Banquet Hall.  This hall
> >holds 300 people.
> >
> >Merriam
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
> >
> >Robert M. Bowman
> >
> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> >
> >Robert M. Bowman (born 1934) was a former Director
> of Advanced Space 
> >Programs Development for the 
> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Air_Force>U.S.
> Air Force in the 
> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford>Ford and 
> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter>Carter
> administrations, 
> >and a former 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force>United
> States 
> >Air Force 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Colonel_%28United_States%29>Lieutenant
> 
> >Colonel with 101 combat missions. He holds a Ph.D.
> in 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautics>Aeronautics
> and 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Engineering>Nuclear
> 
> >Engineering from the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Institute_of_Technology>California
> 
> >Institute of Technology.
> >
> >Bowman is the founder and Presiding Archbishop of
> the United 
> >Catholic Church, an "independent Catholic
> fellowship" created in 
> >1996 and held to be connected through 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Succession>apostolic
> 
> >succession to the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Catholic_Church>Old
> Catholic 
> >Church.<SUP class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-0><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-0>[1]
> Additionally, 
> >he is Executive Director of Christian Support
> Ministries.<SUP 
> >class=reference
> id=_ref-1><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-1>[2]
> 
> >He also believes the US government was complicit in
> the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11%2C_2001_attacks>September
> 11, 2001]
> >
> >
> >Despite his involvement with space programs and
> defense, he emerged 
> >as an early public critic of the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative>Strategic
> 
> >Defense Initiative (SDI, also aka "Star Wars")
> during the 
> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan>Ronald
> Reagan 
> >administration. On 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_NewsHour_with_Jim_Lehrer>The
> 
> >MacNeil-Lehrer News Hour, he called it "the
> ultimate military 
> >lunacy, easily overwhelmed and vulnerable".<SUP
> class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-2><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-2>[3]
> Bowman founded 
> >the Institute for Space and Security Studies, and
> its publication 
> >Space & Security News (1983) (ISSN 1071-2569), and
> authored two 
> >books on the subject of SDI. He is also a critic of
> an outgrowth of 
> >the SDI program, the 
> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush>Bush
> administration's 
> >proposed 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Defense>National
> 
> >Missile Defense.<SUP class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-3><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-3>[4]
> >
> >For several years he has been active with 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_for_Peace>Veterans
> for Peace 
> >and 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Veterans_Against_the_War>Vietnam
> 
> >Veterans Against the War as a speaker.<SUP
> class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-4><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-4>[5]<SUP
> 
> >class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-5><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-5>[6]<SUP
> 
> >class=reference
> id=_ref-6><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-6>[7]
> 
> >He had also been a member of the Peace Commission
> of the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Diocese_of_Washington>Episcopal
> 
> >Diocese of Washington.<SUP class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-7><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-7>[8]
> >
> >In 1998,
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Censored>Project
> 
> >Censored cited Bowman's article "Our Continuing War
> Against Iraq," 
> >in the May 1998 issue of Space and Security News as
> one of the few 
> >(along with Bill Blum of the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Guardian>San
> 
> >Francisco Bay Guardian and 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bernstein>Dennis
> Bernstein) 
> >covering what they deemed the fifth most censored
> story, "U.S. 
> >Weapons of Mass Destruction Linked to the Deaths of
> Half a Million 
> >Children."<SUP class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-8><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-8>[9]
> The WMDs 
> >referred to are the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Biological_weapons>biological
> 
> >samples sent to Iraq from the United States up to
> 1989, and use of 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium>depleted
> uranium 
> >during the
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War>Gulf War.
> >
> >Bowman holds the belief that the US government was
> complicit in the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11%2C_2001_attacks>September
> 
> >11, 2001 attacks. On September 11, 2004 in New York
> City, Bowman 
> >said "...the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is
> a bunch of 
> >hogwash. It's impossible". <SUP class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-9><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-9>[10]
> On the 2006 
> >9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda Symposium, he stated:
> "I'm an old 
> >interceptor pilot, I know the drill, I've done it.
> I know how long 
> >it takes, I know the rules... and... critics on the
> government story 
> >on 9/11 have said: "Well, they knew about this, and
> they did 
> >nothing". That's not true. If our government had
> done nothing that 
> >day, and let normal procedure be followed, those
> planes, wherever 
> >they were, would have been intercepted, the Twin
> Towers would still 
> >be standing and thousands of dead Americans would
> still be 
> >alive."<SUP class=reference 
>
>id=_ref-10><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#_note-10>[11]
> >
> >Because of his beliefs, he is part of the 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_to_impeach_George_W._Bush>movement
> 
> >to impeach George W. Bush. He is also a member of 
>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholars_for_9/11_Truth>Scholars
> for 
> >9/11 Truth, founded in January 2006 by 
> ><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_H._Fetzer>James
> H. Fetzer.
> >
> >
> >Subj: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve
> 5/22
> >Date: 5/19/2007 9:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >From:
>
<mailto:j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net
> >To:
>
<mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> >Sent from the Internet (Details)
> >
> >
> >
> >Retired Lt. col. USAF Robert M. Bowman
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
> >
> >will be speaking in San Jose Tuesday evening May
> 22-nd at 7 pm in the
> >Campbell Community Center's Orchard City Banquet
> Hall.
> >
>
>http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1
>
>http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1
> >
> >He campaigned for Congress in Florida in 2006 and
> is trying again in 2008:
> >http://www.bowman2008.com/
> >
> >We raised awareness about the illegal war in Iraq.
> >We pounded away on the need for National Health
> Care.
> >We spoke out for the middle class and the
> underclass and never backed down
> >   on economic issues - "every wage a living wage!"
> >
> >He has also sent open letters to presidents Clinton
> and Bush:
> >excerpt from http://rmbowman.com/ssn/Terror2.htm
> >
> >There is. But to understand it requires that we
> know the truth about the
> >threat. Mr. President, you did not tell the
> American people the truth
> >about why we are the targets of terrorism. You said
> that we are the
> >target because we stand for democracy, freedom, and
> human rights in the
> >world. Baloney! We are the target of terrorists
> because we stand for
> >dictatorship, bondage, and human exploitation in
> the world. We are the
> >target of terrorists because we are hated. And we
> are hated because we
> >have done hateful things.
> >
> >In how many countries have we deposed popularly
> elected leaders and
> >replaced them with puppet military dictators who
> were willing to sell
> >out their own people to American multinational
> corporations?

___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

"To the brave belong all things"
Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)


       
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 21 18:00:38 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:00:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing
	""Inconvenient Truth or Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out
	Sense from Nonsense on Global Warming?"
Message-ID: <672969.49527.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The Santa Clara County Republican party is showing
this ludicrous movie Tuesday PM May 22 6PM right on
the corner of Evelyn and Murphy.  Come join me to
protest!

Greens for Planet Earth!

Drew

Date: Tuesday, May 22
Time: 6 - 9 PM
Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming
Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
Murphy Avenue,  Sunnyvale
Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,  Movie Premiere
included!


http://www.svgop.com/press/index.cfm/ID/132.htm

May 14, 2007

GLOBAL WARMING FILM PREMIERE ON MAY 22 - RSVP ONLINE!
  	

Join us for a very special Lincoln Day event where you
will be treated to dinner and a movie. "Inconvenient
Truth of Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming?" is a PRI documentary
currently premiering across the nation.

Come mix-and-mingle with fellow Republicans, and at
the same time, be enlightened on the facts that shed
new light on Al Gore's version of the truth in his
film, Inconvenient Truth. Join us as Josh Trevino, VP
of Public Policy for Pacific Research Institute (PRI)
sorts out fact from fiction on the contentious climate
change issue. 

Date: Tuesday, May 22
Time: 6 - 9 PM
Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming
Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
Murphy Avenue,  Sunnyvale
Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,  Movie Premiere
included!

RSVP online at  http://www.svgop.org/rsvp/   or mail
checks to Santa Clara County Republican Party, 522
North Monroe, San Jose, CA 95128

Delicious Buffet featuring:
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 21 18:26:44 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 18:26:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Save the Grizzly Bear - Help Re-list Them as
	Endangered Species
Message-ID: <104635.2834.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- "Michael L., Care2 Action Alerts"
<actionalerts at care2.com> wrote:

> Date: 21 May 2007 06:35:44 -0700
> Subject: Save the Grizzly Bear - Help Re-list Them
> as Endangered Species
> From: "Michael L., Care2 Action Alerts"
> <actionalerts at care2.com>
---------------------------------
:: You can make a difference TODAY, on Care2 ::

Grizzly Bear numbers are declining, yet they are not
on the endangered species list. 
            
Tell the Secretary of the Interior to re-list grizzly
bears today!  
                                     
Hello fellow concerned citizens,
      
      On May 1, the Bush Administration removed the
Yellowstone grizzly from the Endangered Species List. 
      
      Instead of undoing protections for grizzly
bears, we really should be guarding them more
vigilantly than ever before. 
    
    Help save grizzly bears by asking the Secretary of
the Interior to re-list them as endangered species!

The great grizzly bear has long symbolized the wild
spirit of the American West. Grizzlies once ranged far
and wide - at the time of the Lewis and Clark
expedition, approximately 50,000-100,000 grizzly bears
wandered through  the rugged, mountainous West.
But as more humans settled the Rockies, the great
bear's numbers began to dwindle. By 1975, the
Yellowstone  grizzly was on the brink of extinction
and was listed as endangered. Under the Endangered
Species Act, Yellowstone's bears have made a dramatic
recovery - from just 200 bears in 1975  to roughly 600
today. But now the grizzly bear faces its biggest
challenge ever: global warming.

One of the bear's primary food sources, the seed of
whitebark pine trees, is disappearing. Scientists
report that  warmer temperatures are causing an
explosion in the Yellowstone pine beetle population,
leading to decimation of  whitebark pine. In addition,
more and more of the grizzly's range land is being
opened to oil and gas development.

Tell the Administration that you want to see grizzly
bears protected and that they should re-list the bears
 today:

http://go.care2.com/e/R0dH/Ihjn/E28y

Together, we can make a difference!
    
    Michael L.

Care2 and 
  ThePetitionSite Team      


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From wrolley at charter.net  Mon May 21 22:01:42 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:01:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Save the Grizzly Bear - Help Re-list
 Them as	Endangered Species
In-Reply-To: <104635.2834.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <104635.2834.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <46527936.901@charter.net>

JamBoi wrote:

Drew forwarded to us a action alert on the Grizzly Bear.(bottom of this 
note). While it is a good idea to do something of this sort, it is 
really helpful to understand the total picture of what went on at the 
Department of the Interior, especially with those who Jack Abramoff 
carefully placed in key positions. Even when ex-Secretary of the 
Interior, Gail Norton, had her aide, Italia Federici, set up an 
astro-turf organization called Council of Republicans for Environmental 
Advocacy, it was funded by Federici.

You are still seeing the after effects of the Norton years as 
Representatives George Miller and Nick Rahall are going after the 
recently resigned DoI official, Julie MacDonald. MacDonald was one who 
always put politics and personal gain ahead of science in the 
administration of the ESA and required critical habitat. One of her very 
nice touches was to lift the restrictions on the California splittail 
fish. Those restrictions affected the value and use of an 80 acres farm 
that she owned near Dixon in the Yolo Bypass.

According the most recent California Dept of Fish and Game, the 
population of the splittail in the delta has crashed, though not quite 
to the same extent as the delta smelt.

It all reeks and it won't be fixed until we start caring about the 
environment and demanding that our legislators do also.

Here is the detail from Miller and Rahall.

*Congressman George Miller, California's 7th District*
*Monday, May 21, 2007
Danny Weiss, 202-225-2095

Miller and Rahall Launch Inquiry into New Conflict of Interest at 
Interior Department

Senior lawmakers press Bush Administration on manipulation of science in 
a California endangered species decision

*WASHINGTON, DC - Two senior House Democrats launched an inquiry today 
into reports that a Bush Administration political appointee may have 
improperly removed a California fish from a list of threatened species 
in order to protect her own financial interests.

According to an investigative report published Sunday by the Contra 
Costa Times, Julie MacDonald, who resigned this month as Interior 
Department Deputy Assistant Secretary for Fish, Wildlife and Parks, was 
actively involved in removing the Sacramento Splittail fish from the 
federal threatened and endangered species list at the same time that she 
was profiting from her ownership of an 80-acre farm in Dixon, CA that 
lies within the habitat area of the threatened fish.

MacDonald's financial disclosure statement shows that she earns as much 
as $1 million per year from her ownership of the 80-acre active farm. 
Federal law bars federal employees from participating in decisions on 
matters in which they have a personal financial interest.

The Sacramento Splittail, a small fish found only in California's 
Central Valley, depends on floodplain habitat and has been described by 
the Fish and Wildlife Service as facing "potential threats from habitat 
loss."

Today, Rep. George Miller (D-CA) and Rep. Nick Rahall (D-WV), chairman 
of the Natural Resources Committee, wrote to Interior Secretary 
Kempthorne requesting a full accounting of MacDonald's role in the 
Sacramento Splittail decision, an explanation of her apparent conflict 
of interest, and a thorough review of the science underlying the 
decision to remove the Sacramento Splittail from the threatened species 
list.

"It looks like another Bush Administration official was protecting her 
own bottom line instead of protecting the public interest," said Miller, 
a senior member and former chairman of the Natural Resources Committee 
and a long-time proponent of the Endangered Species Act and Bay-Delta 
fish and wildlife issues. "We are going to fully investigate this matter 
and determine whether public policy was improperly altered because of 
personal conflicts of interest.

"This news raises serious questions about the integrity of the Interior 
Department and its policy decisions," Miller added. "The Sacramento-San 
Joaquin Delta has enough problems without political appointees at 
scientific agencies cooking the books. Who thought it was acceptable for 
a Deputy Assistant Secretary to change a major policy decision to exempt 
her own million-dollar enterprise from the Endangered Species Act even 
though federal law prohibits such conflicts?"

Rahall, who has served on the Natural Resources Committee since 1976 and 
became its chairman in January, called on the Department to fully 
explain what happened.

"Time and again, this Administration has demonstrated a complete 
disregard for scientists and their work," Rahall said. "Political 
appointees at the Interior Department have been allowed to overrule 
biologists and to work more closely with special interests than with 
their own staff. The Interior Department must explain its deputy 
assistant secretary's actions in this very troubling case, which is 
apparently the latest in a long line of efforts to undercut species 
recovery."

The letter from Miller and Rahall comes just two weeks after a May 9 
Committee hearing at which Deputy Interior Secretary Lynn Scarlett was 
questioned about recent controversies in the implementation of the 
Endangered Species Act. Her prepared testimony did not mention a report 
by the Department's Inspector General on an investigation into 
MacDonald, nor did her testimony indicate awareness of the serious 
consequences of MacDonald's actions. In the course of the hearing, 
Scarlett affirmed that "where there is scientific manipulation, we want 
to correct that," but no specifics were provided.

MacDonald resigned from the Interior Department just one week before 
Scarlett testified.

The Endangered Species Act established a policy of protecting and 
recovering species in decline and their habitats. Fish, wildlife, and 
plants listed as "endangered" are in danger of extinction and the 
federal government is required to take action to recover them. Species 
are listed as "threatened" if it is determined that they may soon become 
endangered. Other threatened species in the Bay-Delta region include the 
green sturgeon and the delta smelt.

The full text of the letter to The Hon. Dirk Kempthorne, Secretary of 
the Interior, is below.



May 21, 2007

The Honorable Dirk Kempthorne

Secretary

Department of the Interior

1849 C Street, N.W.

Washington, DC 20240

Dear Secretary Kempthorne:

We are writing to reiterate the request we made at the House Natural 
Resources Committee's hearing on May 9, 2007, and subsequently in 
writing by Chairman Nick J. Rahall, II, for a complete accounting of how 
the Department of the Interior is responding to the Inspector General's 
investigation of Julie MacDonald. Yesterday's newspaper report in the 
Contra Costa Times on Julie MacDonald and her role in the decision to 
remove the Sacramento Splittail from the list of threatened species 
demands an immediate response from the Department. This new information 
adds very serious charges to her record.

The Contra Costa Times reports ("Decision on splittail raises 
suspicions") that the Fish and Wildlife Service, at MacDonald's 
direction, may have improperly ignored scientific evidence when deciding 
to eliminate the Sacramento Splittail's threatened species designation, 
and that MacDonald, a non-scientist, was heavily involved in the 
decision. By statute, as you know, listing and de-listing decisions can 
only be made on the basis of the best scientific and commercial data 
available.

More egregious still, the article demonstrates that MacDonald was 
profiting significantly from agricultural property in Sacramento 
Splittail habitat. It is our understanding that this is the first and 
only time that a fish species has been removed from the list of 
threatened species for reasons other than extinction. It is unacceptable 
that such an unprecedented policy decision may have been made because a 
Deputy Assistant Secretary had a direct and substantial personal 
financial interest.

In light of this highly troubling new report, please provide us with a 
full accounting of former Deputy Assistant Secretary MacDonald's role 
from 2002-2004 in the Sacramento Splittail decision, including but not 
limited to:
1 Details of her contacts with staff in the California and Nevada 
Operations Office and elsewhere within the Department regarding the 
Sacramento Splittail;
1 A complete accounting of the changes made by Julie MacDonald, and 
others, to the Sacramento Splittail listing documents after they were 
sent to Washington; and
1 Communications regarding the Sacramento Splittail, if any, between 
MacDonald and interests outside the Department, including the San Luis & 
Delta-Mendota Water Authority, the State Water Contractors, or the 
California Farm Bureau.

In addition, please provide us with a full account of former Deputy 
Assistant Secretary MacDonald's apparent conflict of interest, including 
but not limited to:
1 Details of her participation in decisions affecting the management of 
fish and wildlife species in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta region, 
especially those on or near her property;
1 A description of Interior Department decisions, if any, from which she 
recused herself based on a conflict of interest, or the appearance of a 
conflict;
1 A list of officials at the Department who were aware that she 
continued to own and profit from agricultural property in California 
while serving as Deputy Assistant Secretary; and
1 All advice or ethics opinions provided to her by the Department 
regarding these matters.


In order to determine the Interior Department's role in overseeing 
MacDonald's activities, please provide a description of all formal or 
informal action taken by the Department in response to her 2004 decision 
to leak documents to the California Farm Bureau's lobbyist in an 
apparent attempt to undermine a scientific decision regarding the 
threatened Delta smelt.

Finally, in order to address the significant policy implications of 
MacDonald's actions, we request that you direct the Fish and Wildlife 
Service to re-evaluate whether its decision to de-list the Sacramento 
Splittail was based solely upon the best available scientific and 
commercial data, as required by law, and to report these findings to the 
Congress. In addition, please provide us with the results of each of the 
three statistical methods employed by the Fish and Wildlife Service to 
determine the health of the Sacramento Splittail's population. 
Endangered species decisions must be based on accurate and reliable 
scientific analysis, not the conflict of interest of a senior 
departmental official. This is especially true for significant and 
sensitive decisions such as this one, which could affect the management 
of California's Bay-Delta and water operations.

We appreciate your prompt attention to our request. Please contact Ben 
Miller with Rep. George Miller's staff at (202) 225-2095, or Lori Sonken 
with the Natural Resources Committee staff at (202) 225-6065, with any 
questions.

Sincerely,


_______________________ _______________________

GEORGE MILLER NICK J. RAHALL, II

Member of Congress Chairman, Committee on Natural Resources
>   
>> Date: 21 May 2007 06:35:44 -0700
>> Subject: Save the Grizzly Bear - Help Re-list Them
>> as Endangered Species
>> From: "Michael L., Care2 Action Alerts"
>> <actionalerts at care2.com>
>>     
> ---------------------------------
> :: You can make a difference TODAY, on Care2 ::
>
> Grizzly Bear numbers are declining, yet they are not
> on the endangered species list. 
>             
> Tell the Secretary of the Interior to re-list grizzly
> bears today!  
>   


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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Mon May 21 23:46:41 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 02:46:41 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] USAF Robert M. Bowman- JUNE 12th!!!!!!
Message-ID: <cf8.e393a73.3383ebd1@aol.com>

Hi Carol,

Thank you for catching this and getting the correct date out to us.

Merriam



Subj:   USAF Robert M. Bowman- JUNE 12th!!!!!!? 
Date:   5/21/2007 11:59:29 AM Pacific Standard Time 
From:   cbrouillet at igc.org  
To: MKmusic03 at aol.com, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
Sent from the Internet (Details)    
    


I think you have the wrong date!

Dr. Bob Bowman "Take Back America Tour" Tuesday, June 12th, 2007, at 7:00 
p.m. Orchard City Banquet Hall Campbell Community Center 1 W. Campbell Avenue, 
Campbell, California 

Dr. Bowman is a Lt. Col., USAF, ret. He directed all DoD ?Star Wars? 
programs under presidents Ford and Carter, and he retired as Presiding Archbishop of 
the United Catholic Church. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics & Nuclear Engineering 
from Cal Tech. He has lectured at the National War College, the United 
Nations, the Academies of Science of six nations, and the House of Lords. He ran for 
Congress in 2006, and was one of the few 9/11 Truth candidates. 
Dr. Bowman?s mission is to educate the public on the critical issues facing 
this country. He explains why we need a government that (1) Follows the 
Constitution, (2) Honors the Truth, and (3) Serves the People. 

?Think what a difference that would make! No more imperial presidency. No 
more undeclared wars of aggression. No more spying on the American people. No 
more jailing of dissidents. No more corporations importing and exploiting 
millions of illegal immigrants to drive down wages. No more exporting of jobs. No 
more NAFTA. No more North American Union. No more government lies, false-flag 
attacks, and cover-ups. No more corporate welfare. No more health plans written 
by insurance companies and pharmaceutical manufacturers. No more energy 
policies written by Exxon and Enron. No more trillions in debt." 


More details on this nationwide tour are available at- 
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20070301114303980



At 11:50 PM 5/19/2007, you wrote:
> Hi All,
> I looked up the wikipedia site Jim Doyle put in his email. After reading 
> about Bowman I'm definitely going to hear him talk and I encourage you all to 
> attend his talk.? Please see below information on Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman. I 
> encourage you to read the entire page in Wikipedia on Robert M. Bowman.
> 
> Jim, thank you for letting us know about Robert Bowman speaking this Tuesday 
> in Campbell. 
> 
> The Campbell Community Center is located at 1 W. Campbell Ave. (corner of 
> Campbell Ave & Winchester Blvd in Campbell.
> 
> Lt. Col. Robert M. Bowman's talk is being held in the Orchard City Banquet 
> Hall.? This hall
> holds 300 people. 
> 
> Merriam 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
> 
> Robert M. Bowman
> 
> 
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> 
> Robert M. Bowman (born 1934) was a former Director of Advanced Space 
> Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, 
> and a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat 
> missions. He holds a Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from the 
> California Institute of Technology.
> 
> Bowman is the founder and Presiding Archbishop of the United Catholic 
> Church, an "independent Catholic fellowship" created in 1996 and held to be 
> connected through apostolic succession to the Old Catholic Church.<SUP 
> class=reference id=_ref-0>[1] Additionally, he is Executive Director of Christian Support 
> Ministries.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-1>[2] He also believes the US 
> government was complicit in the September 11, 2001]
> 
> 
> Despite his involvement with space programs and defense, he emerged as an 
> early public critic of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI, also aka "Star 
> Wars") during the Ronald Reagan administration. On The MacNeil-Lehrer News 
> Hour, he called it "the ultimate military lunacy, easily overwhelmed and 
> vulnerable".<SUP class=reference id=_ref-2>[3] Bowman founded the Institute for Space 
> and Security Studies, and its publication Space & Security News (1983) (ISSN 
> 1071-2569), and authored two books on the subject of SDI. He is also a 
> critic of an outgrowth of the SDI program, the Bush administration's proposed 
> National Missile Defense.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-3>[4]
> 
> For several years he has been active with Veterans for Peace and Vietnam 
> Veterans Against the War as a speaker.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-4>[5] <SUP 
> class=reference id=_ref-5>[6] <SUP class=reference id=_ref-6>[7] He had also 
> been a member of the Peace Commission of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington.<
> SUP class=reference id=_ref-7>[8]
> 
> In 1998, Project Censored cited Bowman's article "Our Continuing War Against 
> Iraq," in the May 1998 issue of Space and Security News as one of the few 
> (along with Bill Blum of the San Francisco Bay Guardian and Dennis Bernstein) 
> covering what they deemed the fifth most censored story, "U.S. Weapons of Mass 
> Destruction Linked to the Deaths of Half a Million Children."<SUP 
> class=reference id=_ref-8>[9] The WMDs referred to are the biological samples sent to 
> Iraq from the United States up to 1989, and use of depleted uranium during the 
> Gulf War.
> 
> Bowman holds the belief that the US government was complicit in the 
> September 11, 2001 attacks. On September 11, 2004 in New York City, Bowman said 
> "...the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It's 
> impossible". <SUP class=reference id=_ref-9>[10] On the 2006 9/11 + The Neo-Con Agenda 
> Symposium, he stated: "I'm an old interceptor pilot, I know the drill, I've 
> done it. I know how long it takes, I know the rules... and... critics on the 
> government story on 9/11 have said: "Well, they knew about this, and they did 
> nothing". That's not true. If our government had done nothing that day, and 
> let normal procedure be followed, those planes, wherever they were, would have 
> been intercepted, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of 
> dead Americans would still be alive."<SUP class=reference id=_ref-10>[11] 
> 
> Because of his beliefs, he is part of the movement to impeach George W. Bush
> . He is also a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, founded in January 2006 by 
> James H. Fetzer.
> 
> 
> Subj: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker Tues eve 5/22 
> Date: 5/19/2007 9:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time 
> From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net 
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
> Sent from the Internet (Details) 
> 
> 
> 
> Retired Lt. col. USAF Robert M. Bowman
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman
> 
> will be speaking in San Jose Tuesday evening May 22-nd at 7 pm in the
> Campbell Community Center's Orchard City Banquet Hall.
> 
> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&
> formtype=address&addtohistory=&
> address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1 
> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?cat=campbell%20community%20center&
> formtype=address&addtohistory=&
> address=E%20Campbell%20Ave%20%26%20Winchester%20Blvd&city=Campbell&state=CA&zipcode=95008&country=US&geodiff=1 
> 
> He campaigned for Congress in Florida in 2006 and is trying again in 2008:
> http://www.bowman2008.com/
> 
> We raised awareness about the illegal war in Iraq.
> We pounded away on the need for National Health Care.
> We spoke out for the middle class and the underclass and never backed down
> ? on economic issues - "every wage a living wage!"
> 
> He has also sent open letters to presidents Clinton and Bush:
> excerpt from http://rmbowman.com/ssn/Terror2.htm
> 
> There is. But to understand it requires that we know the truth about the 
> threat. Mr. President, you did not tell the American people the truth 
> about why we are the targets of terrorism. You said that we are the 
> target because we stand for democracy, freedom, and human rights in the 
> world. Baloney! We are the target of terrorists because we stand for 
> dictatorship, bondage, and human exploitation in the world. We are the 
> target of terrorists because we are hated. And we are hated because we 
> have done hateful things.
> 
> In how many countries have we deposed popularly elected leaders and 
> replaced them with puppet military dictators who were willing to sell 
> out their own people to American multinational corporations?
> 
> 
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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Tue May 22 00:31:49 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:31:49 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing
	""Inconvenient Truth or Convenient Fi
Message-ID: <c2b.120dbafa.3383f665@aol.com>

Hi Drew,

Count me in, I'll be there.? We can't let all them GOP "naysayers" show up to 
an enjoyable eveing without some kind of protest!!!! What time do you want to 
meet and where do you want to meet?? Do we have protest signs?? Any leaflets 
to hand out?

Merriam

Subj: Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing ""Inconvenient Truth or 
Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from Nonsense on Global Warming?"? 
Date: 5/21/2007 6:01:00 PM Pacific Standard Time 
From: jamboi at yahoo.com 
Reply-to: JamBoi at Greens.org 
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
CC: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net, cbrouillet at igc.org, MKmusic03 at aol.com, 
tnharter at ispwest.com 
Sent from the Internet (Details) 



The Santa Clara County Republican party is showing
this ludicrous movie Tuesday PM May 22 6PM right on
the corner of Evelyn and Murphy.? Come join me to
protest!

Greens for Planet Earth!

Drew

Date: Tuesday, May 22
Time: 6 - 9 PM
Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming
Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
Murphy Avenue,? Sunnyvale
Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,? Movie Premiere
included!


http://www.svgop.com/press/index.cfm/ID/132.htm

May 14, 2007

GLOBAL WARMING FILM PREMIERE ON MAY 22 - RSVP ONLINE!
? ? ? 

Join us for a very special Lincoln Day event where you
will be treated to dinner and a movie. "Inconvenient
Truth of Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming?" is a PRI documentary
currently premiering across the nation.

Come mix-and-mingle with fellow Republicans, and at
the same time, be enlightened on the facts that shed
new light on Al Gore's version of the truth in his
film, Inconvenient Truth. Join us as Josh Trevino, VP
of Public Policy for Pacific Research Institute (PRI)
sorts out fact from fiction on the contentious climate
change issue. 

Date: Tuesday, May 22
Time: 6 - 9 PM
Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming
Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
Murphy Avenue,? Sunnyvale
Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,? Movie Premiere
included!

RSVP online at? http://www.svgop.org/rsvp/?? or mail
checks to Santa Clara County Republican Party, 522
North Monroe, San Jose, CA 95128

Delicious Buffet featuring:
Bistro Beef with Brandy Peppercorn Sauce and Fresh
Salmon Fillet with Citrus Cream Sauce served with Orzo
& Roasted Vegetables, Garlic Mashed Potatoes, Fresh
Seasonal Vegetables, and topped off with a tempting
dessert, coffee.

Download details including map and parking
information.

Excerpts from film review by Fred Barnes, Executive
Editor, THE WEEKLY STANDARD

Hayward 's rebuttal of Gore's warning about a coming
climate catastrophe won't thrill either the
environmental crowd or Hollywood 's liberal elite...

Hayward , as a global warming skeptic, has an
advantage over Gore. Unlike Gore, he is calm and
reasonable, avoids hyperbole, and sticks to the
facts...

The result is that he is closer to what he calls "the
general consensus" among scientists about global
warming than Gore is...

It's important to note than Hayward , a resident
scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is not a
global warming denier..."The problem with Vice
President Gore and other global warming extremists is
that they distort the science, grossly exaggerate the
risks, argue that anyone who disagrees with them is
corrupt, and suggest that solutions are easy and
cheap," Hayward says. "And that's an all too
convenient fiction."...

Hayward makes it simple to understand...What's
especially significant is that he doesn't cite only
the science that suits his purposes. Conclusions about
global warming are all over the lot, he notes, and
"you can get whiplash following the science on this."
His point is that the science on global warming is not
settled, as Gore and his allies claim. The
environment, Hayward concludes, "is much too important
to be left to environmentalists." Or to Al Gore.

Local News Coverage
The film's premiere even got covered by San Francisco
media!

About PRI's Experts


Joshua S. Trevi?o, Vice President of Public Policy,
PRI
Joshua S. Trevi?o is the Vice President for Public
Policy at the Pacific Research Institute. Before
coming to PRI, he was an Associate at Booz Allen
Hamilton, Inc. He served in the Administration of
George W. Bush as a speechwriter and International
Communications Coordinator for the Secretary of Health
and Human Services from 2001 through 2004. He holds
bachelor's degrees in history and political science
from Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina.
Mr. Trevi?o is a veteran of the United States Army and
a native of Texas.

Dr. Steven F. Hayward , Senior Fellow, Environmental
Studies, PRI
Dr. Steven Hayward is the author of PRI?s annual Index
of Leading Environmental Indicators, a major study on
the state of the environment released each year on
Earth Day. He is also nationally recognized for his
books, The Real Jimmy Carter (Regnery Publishing,
2004), The Age of Reagan: The Fall of the Old Liberal
Order 1964-1980 (Prima Publishing, 2001), and
Churchill on Leadership: Executive Success in the Face
of Adversity (Prima Publishing, 1997).

Dr. Hayward writes frequently on a wide range of
issues, including environmentalism, law, economics,
and public policy, and has published dozens of
articles in scholarly and popular journals. His work
has appeared in National Review, New York Times, Wall
Street Journal, Reason, The Weekly Standard, Policy
Review, and Chicago Tribune. He is a Weyerhaeuser
Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, an
adjunct fellow of the John Ashbrook Center and a
former Bradley Fellow at the Heritage Foundation,
Weaver Fellow of the Intercollegiate Studies
Institute, Earhart Fellow, and Olive Garvey Fellow of
the Mont Pelerin Society.

Dr. Hayward holds a Ph.D. in American Studies and a
M.A. in Government from Claremont Graduate School.



___________________

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The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Tue May 22 00:46:45 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:46:45 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing
	""Inconvenient Truth or Convenient Fi
Message-ID: <cf0.101c8681.3383f9e5@aol.com>

Drew,

I'll meet you at the corner of Murphy and Evelyn at 5:30 pm with the Impeach 
Bush signs.

Merriam


Hi Drew,

Count me in, I'll be there.? We can't let all them GOP "naysayers" show up to 
an enjoyable eveing without some kind of protest!!!! What time do you want to 
meet and where do you want to meet?? Do we have protest signs?? Any leaflets 
to hand out?

Merriam


Subj: Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing ""Inconvenient Truth or 
Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from Nonsense on Global Warming?"? 
Date: 5/21/2007 6:01:00 PM Pacific Standard Time 
From: jamboi at yahoo.com 
Reply-to: JamBoi at Greens.org 
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
CC: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net, cbrouillet at igc.org, MKmusic03 at aol.com, 
tnharter at ispwest.com 
Sent from the Internet (Details) 



The Santa Clara County Republican party is showing
this ludicrous movie Tuesday PM May 22 6PM right on
the corner of Evelyn and Murphy.? Come join me to
protest!

Greens for Planet Earth!

Drew

Date: Tuesday, May 22
Time: 6 - 9 PM
Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming
Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
Murphy Avenue,? Sunnyvale
Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,? Movie Premiere
included!


http://www.svgop.com/press/index.cfm/ID/132.htm

May 14, 2007

GLOBAL WARMING FILM PREMIERE ON MAY 22 - RSVP ONLINE!
? ? ? 

Join us for a very special Lincoln Day event where you
will be treated to dinner and a movie. "Inconvenient
Truth of Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming?" is a PRI documentary
currently premiering across the nation.

Come mix-and-mingle with fellow Republicans, and at
the same time, be enlightened on the facts that shed
new light on Al Gore's version of the truth in his
film, Inconvenient Truth. Join us as Josh Trevino, VP
of Public Policy for Pacific Research Institute (PRI)
sorts out fact from fiction on the contentious climate
change issue. 

Date: Tuesday, May 22
Time: 6 - 9 PM
Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
Nonsense on Global Warming
Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
Murphy Avenue,? Sunnyvale
Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,? Movie Premiere
included!

RSVP online at? http://www.svgop.org/rsvp/?? or mail
checks to Santa Clara County Republican Party, 522
North Monroe, San Jose, CA 95128

Delicious Buffet featuring:
Bistro Beef with Brandy Peppercorn Sauce and Fresh
Salmon Fillet with Citrus Cream Sauce served with Orzo
& Roasted Vegetables, Garlic Mashed Potatoes, Fresh
Seasonal Vegetables, and topped off with a tempting
dessert, coffee.

Download details including map and parking
information.

Excerpts from film review by Fred Barnes, Executive
Editor, THE WEEKLY STANDARD

Hayward 's rebuttal of Gore's warning about a coming
climate catastrophe won't thrill either the
environmental crowd or Hollywood 's liberal elite...

Hayward , as a global warming skeptic, has an
advantage over Gore. Unlike Gore, he is calm and
reasonable, avoids hyperbole, and sticks to the
facts...

The result is that he is closer to what he calls "the
general consensus" among scientists about global
warming than Gore is...

It's important to note than Hayward , a resident
scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is not a
global warming denier..."The problem with Vice
President Gore and other global warming extremists is
that they distort the science, grossly exaggerate the
risks, argue that anyone who disagrees with them is
corrupt, and suggest that solutions are easy and
cheap," Hayward says. "And that's an all too
convenient fiction."...

Hayward makes it simple to understand...What's
especially significant is that he doesn't cite only
the science that suits his purposes. Conclusions about
global warming are all over the lot, he notes, and
"you can get whiplash following the science on this."
His point is that the science on global warming is not
settled, as Gore and his allies claim. The
environment, Hayward concludes, "is much too important
to be left to environmentalists." Or to Al Gore.

Local News Coverage
The film's premiere even got covered by San Francisco
media!

About PRI's Experts

Joshua S. Trevi?o, Vice President of Public Policy,
PRI
Joshua S. Trevi?o is the Vice President for Public
Policy at the Pacific Research Institute. Before
coming to PRI, he was an Associate at Booz Allen
Hamilton, Inc. He served in the Administration of
George W. Bush as a speechwriter and International
Communications Coordinator for the Secretary of Health
and Human Services from 2001 through 2004. He holds
bachelor's degrees in history and political science
from Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina.
Mr. Trevi?o is a veteran of the United States Army and
a native of Texas.

Dr. Steven F. Hayward , Senior Fellow, Environmental
Studies, PRI
Dr. Steven Hayward is the author of PRI?s annual Index
of Leading Environmental Indicators, a major study on
the state of the environment released each year on
Earth Day. He is also nationally recognized for his
books, The Real Jimmy Carter (Regnery Publishing,
2004), The Age of Reagan: The Fall of the Old Liberal
Order 1964-1980 (Prima Publishing, 2001), and
Churchill on Leadership: Executive Success in the Face
of Adversity (Prima Publishing, 1997).

Dr. Hayward writes frequently on a wide range of
issues, including environmentalism, law, economics,
and public policy, and has published dozens of
articles in scholarly and popular journals. His work
has appeared in National Review, New York Times, Wall
Street Journal, Reason, The Weekly Standard, Policy
Review, and Chicago Tribune. He is a Weyerhaeuser
Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, an
adjunct fellow of the John Ashbrook Center and a
former Bradley Fellow at the Heritage Foundation,
Weaver Fellow of the Intercollegiate Studies
Institute, Earhart Fellow, and Olive Garvey Fellow of
the Mont Pelerin Society.

Dr. Hayward holds a Ph.D. in American Studies and a
M.A. in Government from Claremont Graduate School.



___________________

JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

"To the brave belong all things"
Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May 22 00:55:10 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 00:55:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing
	""Inconvenient Truth or Convenient Fi
In-Reply-To: <c59.1344aa83.3383fa68@aol.com>
Message-ID: <880003.29579.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sounds good Merriam.  Anyone else up joining us to
protest the Republicrats anti-planet policies and
advocating impeachment?

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

--- MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote:

> Drew,
> 
> I'll meet you at the corner of Murphy and Evelyn at
> 5:30 pm with the Impeach 
> Bush signs.  Hopefully others will join us.
> 
> Merriam
> 
> 
> Hi Drew,
> 
> Count me in, I'll be there.?  We can't let all them
> GOP "naysayers" show up to 
> an enjoyable eveing without some kind of protest!!!!
> What time do you want to 
> meet and where do you want to meet??  Do we have
> protest signs??  Any leaflets 
> to hand out?
> 
> Merriam
> 
> 
> Subj: Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing
> ""Inconvenient Truth or 
> Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from Nonsense
> on Global Warming?"?  
> Date: 5/21/2007 6:01:00 PM Pacific Standard Time 
> From: jamboi at yahoo.com 
> Reply-to: JamBoi at Greens.org 
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
> CC: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net, cbrouillet at igc.org,
> MKmusic03 at aol.com, 
> tnharter at ispwest.com 
> Sent from the Internet (Details) 
> 
> 
> 
> The Santa Clara County Republican party is showing
> this ludicrous movie Tuesday PM May 22 6PM right on
> the corner of Evelyn and Murphy.?  Come join me to
> protest!
> 
> Greens for Planet Earth!
> 
> Drew
> 
> Date: Tuesday, May 22
> Time: 6 - 9 PM
> Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
> Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
> Nonsense on Global Warming
> Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
> Murphy Avenue,?  Sunnyvale
> Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,?  Movie
> Premiere
> included!
> 
> 
> http://www.svgop.com/press/index.cfm/ID/132.htm
> 
> May 14, 2007
> 
> GLOBAL WARMING FILM PREMIERE ON MAY 22 - RSVP
> ONLINE!
> ?  ?  ?  
> 
> Join us for a very special Lincoln Day event where
> you
> will be treated to dinner and a movie. "Inconvenient
> Truth of Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from
> Nonsense on Global Warming?" is a PRI documentary
> currently premiering across the nation.
> 
> Come mix-and-mingle with fellow Republicans, and at
> the same time, be enlightened on the facts that shed
> new light on Al Gore's version of the truth in his
> film, Inconvenient Truth. Join us as Josh Trevino,
> VP
> of Public Policy for Pacific Research Institute
> (PRI)
> sorts out fact from fiction on the contentious
> climate
> change issue. 
> 
> Date: Tuesday, May 22
> Time: 6 - 9 PM
> Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
> Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense from
> Nonsense on Global Warming
> Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
> Murphy Avenue,?  Sunnyvale
> Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,?  Movie
> Premiere
> included!
> 
> RSVP online at?  http://www.svgop.org/rsvp/? ?  or
> mail
> checks to Santa Clara County Republican Party, 522
> North Monroe, San Jose, CA 95128
> 
> Delicious Buffet featuring:
> Bistro Beef with Brandy Peppercorn Sauce and Fresh
> Salmon Fillet with Citrus Cream Sauce served with
> Orzo
> & Roasted Vegetables, Garlic Mashed Potatoes, Fresh
> Seasonal Vegetables, and topped off with a tempting
> dessert, coffee.
> 
> Download details including map and parking
> information.
> 
> Excerpts from film review by Fred Barnes, Executive
> Editor, THE WEEKLY STANDARD
> 
> Hayward 's rebuttal of Gore's warning about a coming
> climate catastrophe won't thrill either the
> environmental crowd or Hollywood 's liberal elite...
> 
> Hayward , as a global warming skeptic, has an
> advantage over Gore. Unlike Gore, he is calm and
> reasonable, avoids hyperbole, and sticks to the
> facts...
> 
> The result is that he is closer to what he calls
> "the
> general consensus" among scientists about global
> warming than Gore is...
> 
> It's important to note than Hayward , a resident
> scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is not
> a
> global warming denier..."The problem with Vice
> President Gore and other global warming extremists
> is
> that they distort the science, grossly exaggerate
> the
> risks, argue that anyone who disagrees with them is
> corrupt, and suggest that solutions are easy and
> cheap," Hayward says. "And that's an all too
> convenient fiction."...
> 
> Hayward makes it simple to understand...What's
> especially significant is that he doesn't cite only
> the science that suits his purposes. Conclusions
> about
> global warming are all over the lot, he notes, and
> "you can get whiplash following the science on
> this."
> His point is that the science on global warming is
> not
> settled, as Gore and his allies claim. The
> environment, Hayward concludes, "is much too
> important
> to be left to environmentalists." Or to Al Gore.
> 
> Local News Coverage
> The film's premiere even got covered by San
> Francisco
> media!
> 
> About PRI's Experts
> 
> Joshua S. Trevi??o, Vice President of Public Policy,
> PRI
> Joshua S. Trevi??o is the Vice President for Public
> Policy at the Pacific Research Institute. Before
> coming to PRI, he was an Associate at Booz Allen
> Hamilton, Inc. He served in the Administration of
> George W. Bush as a speechwriter and International
> Communications Coordinator for the Secretary of
> Health
> and Human Services from 2001 through 2004. He holds
> bachelor's degrees in history and political science
> from Furman University in Greenville, South
> Carolina.
> Mr. Trevi??o is a veteran of the United States Army
> and
> a native of Texas.
> 
> Dr. Steven F. Hayward , Senior Fellow, Environmental
> Studies, PRI
> Dr. Steven Hayward is the author of PRI???s annual
> Index
> of Leading Environmental Indicators, a major study
> on
> the state of the environment released each year on
> Earth Day. He is also nationally recognized for his
> books, The Real Jimmy Carter (Regnery Publishing,
> 2004), The Age of Reagan: The Fall of the Old
> Liberal
> Order 1964-1980 (Prima Publishing, 2001), and
> Churchill on Leadership: Executive Success in the
> Face
> of Adversity (Prima Publishing, 1997).
> 
> Dr. Hayward writes frequently on a wide range of
> issues, including environmentalism, law, economics,
> and public policy, and has published dozens of
> articles in scholarly and popular journals. His work
> has appeared in National Review, New York Times,
> Wall
> Street Journal, Reason, The Weekly Standard, Policy
> Review, and Chicago Tribune. He is a Weyerhaeuser
> Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, an
> adjunct fellow of the John Ashbrook Center and a
> former Bradley Fellow at the Heritage Foundation,
> Weaver Fellow of the Intercollegiate Studies
> Institute, Earhart Fellow, and Olive Garvey Fellow
> of
> the Mont Pelerin Society.
> 
> Dr. Hayward holds a Ph.D. in American Studies and a
> M.A. in Government from Claremont Graduate School.


___________________

JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
http://dailyJam.blogspot.com

"To the brave belong all things"
Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC

"Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)


       
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue May 22 12:01:05 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:01:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Carter as bad as Bush ?
Message-ID: <46533DF1.5090208@earthlink.net>


I was rather surprised and dismayed at the editorial
by the San Jose Mercury News Editorial Board.
And I find it confusing because it seems
self-contradictory.

...

Looking at the individual sentences, I don't disagree
with much.  I question how many historians do think
Carter was the worst, but I suppose that when there
are thousands of historians, then maybe there are
enough to qualify as many, so it might be nit picking
to argue the point.

But overall the editorial bothers me a lot...

Gerry


---------------  SJMN 5/22 page 12 A  ----------------

The opinion of the Mercury News editorial board


Carter has no room to talk


Those too young to recall the Carter years got a
revealing glimpse of Jimmy Carter, the president,
Saturday.

Honest to a fault.  Smarter than the vast majority
of those who have held the office.  And way too
willing to tell you so.

It shouldn't come as a shock that Carter, in an
interview with the Arkansas Press-Democrat,
called the Bush Administration's foreign policy
"the worst in history."

He's got ample evidence to make that case.  But
talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

There are plenty of historians who would argue that
it's Jimmy Carter -- not George W. Bush -- who is
the worst president in U.S. history.  With good
reason.  Voters couldn't wait to send Carter back
to Plains, Ga., after his bungling of the Iran
hostage crisis.  And for making his presidency
synonymous with the word "malaise'.

To his credit, Carter realized Monday that he had
gone over the line of presidential protocol, saying
his remarks were "careless or misinterpreted."  The
small slip shouldn't alter the strong case he has
built as one of the best former presidents in
American history.  He richly deserved the Nobel
Prize he won in 2002.

But at present, we're no more lusting in our hearts
for a reprise of the Carter years that we are for a
George Bush encore.



From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue May 22 13:28:02 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:28:02 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS - Dems Cave on War Spending
Message-ID: <8C96AC6D4871584-79C-B7E@WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com>

Why am I NOT surprised? 

 
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
= = = = = = = = = 
 
Posted by The New York Times, 10 minutes ago.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/22/washington/22cnd-cong.html?hp 
 
Tuesday, May 22, 2007.
 
Democrats Drop Withdrawal Dates From Iraq Bill 
 
By Carl Hulse 
 
WASHINGTON, May 22 ? Congressional
Democrats relented today on their insistence that a war spending measure sought
by President Bush also set a date for withdrawing troops from Iraq. The decision to back
down, described by senior lawmakers and aides, , was a wrenching reversal for
some Democrats, who saw their election triumph as a call to force an end to the
war. A Democratic effort to include timelines prompted Mr. Bush?s veto of the
original bill last month, producing a political impasse. 
 
?We don?t have a veto-proof Congress,?
said Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority
leader.
 
Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the
House Democratic majority leader, said the new bill was still being assembled,
but he acknowledged the political reality facing Democrats. ?The president has
made it very clear that he is not going to sign timelines,? said Mr. Hoyer. ?We
can?t pass timelines over his veto.?
 
The concession to the president was proving so difficult
for the Democratic leadership that by this afternoon, the lawmakers had not yet
publicly acknowledged that the timelines would disappear. House Democrats were
preparing to advance two separate measures, to enable antiwar lawmakers to
support popular domestic spending but not the money for the war. House
Democrats were to review the proposal later this evening, but lawmakers were
already predicting that many would not support the war spending.
 
Under the new plan approved by
Democratic leaders, Congress would send Mr. Bush the money for the war and
include a series of benchmarks that attracted 52 votes in the Senate last week.
The Iraqi government could lose some foreign aid if it fails to show sufficient
progress but the president would be given the authority to suspend any penalties.
 
. . . 
 
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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Tue May 22 15:39:14 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:39:14 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS - Dems Cave on War Spending
In-Reply-To: <8C96AC6D4871584-79C-B7E@WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C96AC6D4871584-79C-B7E@WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <46537112.2040201@ispwest.com>

Further proof there isn't enough difference between Democrats and 
Republicans.

alexcathy at aol.com wrote:

> Why am I *NOT* surprised?
>
> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> *Posted by The New York Times, 10 minutes ago.*
> *http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/22/washington/22cnd-cong.html?hp *
> *Tuesday, May 22, 2007.*
>
>
>       Democrats Drop Withdrawal Dates From Iraq Bill
>
>
>     By Carl Hulse
>
> WASHINGTON, May 22 ? Congressional Democrats relented today on their 
> insistence that a war spending measure sought by President Bush also 
> set a date for withdrawing troops from Iraq 
> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iraq/index.html?inline=nyt-geo>. 
> The decision to back down, described by senior lawmakers and aides, , 
> was a wrenching reversal for some Democrats, who saw their election 
> triumph as a call to force an end to the war. A Democratic effort to 
> include timelines prompted Mr. Bush?s veto of the original bill last 
> month, producing a political impasse.
> ?We don?t have a veto-proof Congress,? said Senator Harry Reid 
> <http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/harry_reid/index.html?inline=nyt-per> 
> of Nevada, the majority leader.



-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
I got a roll of WA state quarters at California Bank & Trust yesterday.



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue May 22 16:57:04 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:57:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS - Dems Cave on War Spending
References: <8C96AC6D4871584-79C-B7E@WEBMAIL-MA15.sysops.aol.com>
	<46537112.2040201@ispwest.com>
Message-ID: <46538350.6000202@earthlink.net>


I think there is a BIG difference.

A Republican is a wolf in wolf's clothing.
A Democrat is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Gerry


Tian Harter wrote:

> Further proof there isn't enough difference between Democrats and 
> Republicans.
> 
> alexcathy at aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
>>Why am I *NOT* surprised?
>>
>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>*Posted by The New York Times, 10 minutes ago.*
>>*http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/22/washington/22cnd-cong.html?hp *
>>*Tuesday, May 22, 2007.*
>>
>>
>>      Democrats Drop Withdrawal Dates From Iraq Bill
>>
>>
>>    By Carl Hulse
>>
>>WASHINGTON, May 22 ? Congressional Democrats relented today on their 
>>insistence that a war spending measure sought by President Bush also 
>>set a date for withdrawing troops from Iraq 
>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iraq/index.html?inline=nyt-geo>. 
>>The decision to back down, described by senior lawmakers and aides, , 
>>was a wrenching reversal for some Democrats, who saw their election 
>>triumph as a call to force an end to the war. A Democratic effort to 
>>include timelines prompted Mr. Bush?s veto of the original bill last 
>>month, producing a political impasse.
>>?We don?t have a veto-proof Congress,? said Senator Harry Reid 
>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/harry_reid/index.html?inline=nyt-per> of Nevada, the majority leader.
>>
> 
> 
> 




From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May 22 16:57:29 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:57:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Carter as bad as Bush ?
In-Reply-To: <46533DF1.5090208@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <382561.35139.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

There's no comparison between the Republican enforced
stalemate that Carter experienced and the vicious
destruction of the Constitution of Bush.  No
comparison at all.

And note that historians have never put Carter at the
bottom!  He has just come out in most surveys as being
mediocre.  This editorial is completely off base.

Green for a living planet!

Drew

--- Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> I was rather surprised and dismayed at the editorial
> by the San Jose Mercury News Editorial Board.
> And I find it confusing because it seems
> self-contradictory.
> 
> ...
> 
> Looking at the individual sentences, I don't
> disagree
> with much.  I question how many historians do think
> Carter was the worst, but I suppose that when there
> are thousands of historians, then maybe there are
> enough to qualify as many, so it might be nit
> picking
> to argue the point.
> 
> But overall the editorial bothers me a lot...
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
> ---------------  SJMN 5/22 page 12 A 
> ----------------
> 
> The opinion of the Mercury News editorial board
> 
> 
> Carter has no room to talk
> 
> 
> Those too young to recall the Carter years got a
> revealing glimpse of Jimmy Carter, the president,
> Saturday.
> 
> Honest to a fault.  Smarter than the vast majority
> of those who have held the office.  And way too
> willing to tell you so.
> 
> It shouldn't come as a shock that Carter, in an
> interview with the Arkansas Press-Democrat,
> called the Bush Administration's foreign policy
> "the worst in history."
> 
> He's got ample evidence to make that case.  But
> talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
> 
> There are plenty of historians who would argue that
> it's Jimmy Carter -- not George W. Bush -- who is
> the worst president in U.S. history.  With good
> reason.  Voters couldn't wait to send Carter back
> to Plains, Ga., after his bungling of the Iran
> hostage crisis.  And for making his presidency
> synonymous with the word "malaise'.
> 
> To his credit, Carter realized Monday that he had
> gone over the line of presidential protocol, saying
> his remarks were "careless or misinterpreted."  The
> small slip shouldn't alter the strong case he has
> built as one of the best former presidents in
> American history.  He richly deserved the Nobel
> Prize he won in 2002.
> 
> But at present, we're no more lusting in our hearts
> for a reprise of the Carter years that we are for a
> George Bush encore.

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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 22 20:17:35 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:17:35 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker correct date
Message-ID: <4653B24F.4050309@sbcglobal.net>

Oh boy.  There is plenty of mud on my face.
The correct date is June 12-th.

But I have paid the price.  I went there this evening.
It was of no avail.

Jim Doyle



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Wed May 23 12:08:16 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:08:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] special speaker correct date
In-Reply-To: <4653B24F.4050309@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4653B24F.4050309@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <46549120.1030205@ispwest.com>

We had a great time protesting the Republicans in Sunnyvale.
I was surprised by how much support we got from passers by.
One couple gave us $20. Lots of others stopped to talk to us.
At the end of the evening we ended up spending face time with
a couple of ex Republican Candidates and the evening's speaker.


Jim Doyle wrote:

>Oh boy.  There is plenty of mud on my face.
>The correct date is June 12-th.
>
>But I have paid the price.  I went there this evening.
>It was of no avail.
>
>Jim Doyle
>
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>
>  
>


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We picketed the Santa Clara County Republicans yesterday in Sunnyvale.



From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed May 23 15:46:15 2007
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Condi to appear in Menlo Park Thursday afternoon
Message-ID: <BAY115-F3035C756898BCB07085439E350@phx.gbl>

Does anyone have any thoughts on picketing her?

There's some sensitivity in that she's appearing at a
program she founded to help kids succeed in school
and in college.

I intend to have two signs:  "CONDI LIED TO 9/11 WIDOWS"
and "8-6 P.D.B. DID WARN OF NEW ATTACKS."

I intend to distribute a leaflet backing up my claims and,
if possible, send out a press advisory.

Brian

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Wed May 23 16:32:36 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 16:32:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Should Dems Fear Mike Gravel"
Message-ID: <4654CF14.7020208@freeshell.org>


Check out this article on presidential candidate, Mike Gravel.  His out 
of the box remarks, especially on how to get out of Iraq, should do 
something about the flow of your adrenaline.

Fred D.

Go to:  http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2007/05/gravel.html


From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed May 23 17:11:00 2007
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:11:00 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is this diatribe a press advisory?
Message-ID: <BAY115-F33F6462A1F9764B6DA6E1F9E340@phx.gbl>

I'm kind of new to this, especially under time pressure.





Demonstrators will picket an appearance by Secretary of State
Condoleeza Rice in Menlo Park on Thursday afternoon.   Ms.
Rice will visit the Center for a New Generation at the James
Flood school.

Condi lied to the 9/11 widows when she characterized the
famous "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." memo as
"historical information" that "did not warn of attacks inside
the United States."  (1)  This testimony was given under
oath before the 9/11 Commission on April 8, 2004.

A glance at the memo (also known as the August 6
Presidential Daily Briefing, or P.D.B.) shows that it warns of
"patterns of suspicious activity in this country [since 1998]
consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of
attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings
in New York" and warns also of "a call to our embassy in
the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters
was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."   (2)

The facsimile of the document itself is also interesting.  At
the bottom of both pages is a redacted section in the middle
of the page.  (3) What's secret about a page number?  And
why is the redaction so long?  If an article in the respected
German weekly newspaper Die Zeit is correct, what's been
redacted might be "Page 1 of 12,"  and the person who flew
to Crawford to brief the President on the memo was George
Tenet, then head of the CIA, (4) a man described by
Counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke as one
"running around with his hair on fire" at the time.

The President's response to this information, Ron Susskind's
2006 book "The One Percent Doctrine" tells us, was to say
"All right. You've covered your ass,  now." (5)

Condi's utter  failure as National Security Advisor to prevent
the 9/11 attacks,  demonstrators say, in no way qualified her
to be Secretary of State.  For lying under oath to the widows,
to the nation, and to the world, she should be impeached.

1.  http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/08/rice.transcript/
2.  http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
3.  On this page    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/index.htm
appears the link to a .pdf  of the document
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/pdb8-6-2001.pdf
4.  "Deadly Mistakes: A Chronology of Failure"    by Oliver Shrom,
October 2, 2002    http://www.antiwar.com/article.php?articleid=2305
5.  
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 23 17:53:51 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:53:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Last night's successful protest at SVGOP showing
	""Inconvenient Truth or Convenient Fiction"
In-Reply-To: <880003.29579.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <717378.54165.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I totally concur with Tian.  Fred, Merriam, Tian and I
showed up and with our impeachment and Don't Be
Fuelish signs and presence protested our counterparts
in the SCC Republican party.  We even got to talk to
their speaker,  Joshua S. Trevi?o  who had the gaul to
represent the "Global Warming's not the crisis Gore's
cracking it up to be" point of view.  Nice guy
personally, but just totally off-base.  Totally.  He
was trying to defend nuclear power even!

Anyway we had fun, connected with lots of supporters
and gave the Repubs some hell.  Did the Dems
protest??? No there were only Greens present at the
protest!!!

Greens lead the way!

Drew

Tian wrote:
We had a great time protesting the Republicans in
Sunnyvale. I was surprised by how much support we got
from passers by. One couple gave us $20. Lots of
others stopped to talk to us. At the end of the
evening we ended up spending face time with a couple
of ex Republican Candidates and the evening's speaker.

Wes Rolley wrote:
Some of the activists who worked hard at dumping Pombo
wanted to stay together. I got this notification out
on the existing email list. Some of them are in
Silicon Valley, Palo Alto, etc.

--- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sounds good Merriam.  Anyone else up joining us to
> protest the Republicrats anti-planet policies and
> advocating impeachment?
> 
> Impeach for Peace!
> 
> Drew
> 
> --- MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Drew,
> > 
> > I'll meet you at the corner of Murphy and Evelyn
> at
> > 5:30 pm with the Impeach 
> > Bush signs.  Hopefully others will join us.
> > 
> > Merriam
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Drew,
> > 
> > Count me in, I'll be there.?  We can't let all
> them
> > GOP "naysayers" show up to 
> > an enjoyable eveing without some kind of
> protest!!!!
> > What time do you want to 
> > meet and where do you want to meet??  Do we have
> > protest signs??  Any leaflets 
> > to hand out?
> > 
> > Merriam
> > 
> > 
> > Subj: Protest Opportunity: TUESDAY SVGOP showing
> > ""Inconvenient Truth or 
> > Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense from
> Nonsense
> > on Global Warming?"?  
> > Date: 5/21/2007 6:01:00 PM Pacific Standard Time 
> > From: jamboi at yahoo.com 
> > Reply-to: JamBoi at Greens.org 
> > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
> > CC: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net, cbrouillet at igc.org,
> > MKmusic03 at aol.com, 
> > tnharter at ispwest.com 
> > Sent from the Internet (Details) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The Santa Clara County Republican party is showing
> > this ludicrous movie Tuesday PM May 22 6PM right
> on
> > the corner of Evelyn and Murphy.?  Come join me to
> > protest!
> > 
> > Greens for Planet Earth!
> > 
> > Drew
> > 
> > Date: Tuesday, May 22
> > Time: 6 - 9 PM
> > Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
> > Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense
> from
> > Nonsense on Global Warming
> > Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
> > Murphy Avenue,?  Sunnyvale
> > Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,?  Movie
> > Premiere
> > included!
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.svgop.com/press/index.cfm/ID/132.htm
> > 
> > May 14, 2007
> > 
> > GLOBAL WARMING FILM PREMIERE ON MAY 22 - RSVP
> > ONLINE!
> > ?  ?  ?  
> > 
> > Join us for a very special Lincoln Day event where
> > you
> > will be treated to dinner and a movie.
> "Inconvenient
> > Truth of Convenient Fiction - Sorting Out Sense
> from
> > Nonsense on Global Warming?" is a PRI documentary
> > currently premiering across the nation.
> > 
> > Come mix-and-mingle with fellow Republicans, and
> at
> > the same time, be enlightened on the facts that
> shed
> > new light on Al Gore's version of the truth in his
> > film, Inconvenient Truth. Join us as Josh Trevino,
> > VP
> > of Public Policy for Pacific Research Institute
> > (PRI)
> > sorts out fact from fiction on the contentious
> > climate
> > change issue. 
> > 
> > Date: Tuesday, May 22
> > Time: 6 - 9 PM
> > Featuring: PRI's new documentary, "An Inconvenient
> > Truth or Convenient Fiction? Sorting Out Sense
> from
> > Nonsense on Global Warming
> > Location: The Historic Del Monte Building, 100 S
> > Murphy Avenue,?  Sunnyvale
> > Cost: $50/person for dinner, Cash Bar,?  Movie
> > Premiere
> > included!
> > 
> > RSVP online at?  http://www.svgop.org/rsvp/? ?  or
> > mail
> > checks to Santa Clara County Republican Party, 522
> > North Monroe, San Jose, CA 95128
> > 
> > Delicious Buffet featuring:
> > Bistro Beef with Brandy Peppercorn Sauce and Fresh
> > Salmon Fillet with Citrus Cream Sauce served with
> > Orzo
> > & Roasted Vegetables, Garlic Mashed Potatoes,
> Fresh
> > Seasonal Vegetables, and topped off with a
> tempting
> > dessert, coffee.
> > 
> > Download details including map and parking
> > information.
> > 
> > Excerpts from film review by Fred Barnes,
> Executive
> > Editor, THE WEEKLY STANDARD
> > 
> > Hayward 's rebuttal of Gore's warning about a
> coming
> > climate catastrophe won't thrill either the
> > environmental crowd or Hollywood 's liberal
> elite...
> > 
> > Hayward , as a global warming skeptic, has an
> > advantage over Gore. Unlike Gore, he is calm and
> > reasonable, avoids hyperbole, and sticks to the
> > facts...
> > 
> > The result is that he is closer to what he calls
> > "the
> > general consensus" among scientists about global
> > warming than Gore is...
> > 
> > It's important to note than Hayward , a resident
> > scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is
> not
> > a
> > global warming denier..."The problem with Vice
> > President Gore and other global warming extremists
> > is
> > that they distort the science, grossly exaggerate
> > the
> > risks, argue that anyone who disagrees with them
> is
> > corrupt, and suggest that solutions are easy and
> > cheap," Hayward says. "And that's an all too
> > convenient fiction."...
> > 
> > Hayward makes it simple to understand...What's
> > especially significant is that he doesn't cite
> only
> > the science that suits his purposes. Conclusions
> > about
> > global warming are all over the lot, he notes, and
> > "you can get whiplash following the science on
> > this."
> > His point is that the science on global warming is
> > not
> > settled, as Gore and his allies claim. The
> > environment, Hayward concludes, "is much too
> > important
> > to be left to environmentalists." Or to Al Gore.
> > 
> > Local News Coverage
> > The film's premiere even got covered by San
> > Francisco
> > media!
> > 
> > About PRI's Experts
> > 
> > Joshua S. Trevi??o, Vice President of Public
> Policy,
> > PRI
> > Joshua S. Trevi??o is the Vice President for
> Public
> > Policy at the Pacific Research Institute. Before
> > coming to PRI, he was an Associate at Booz Allen
> > Hamilton, Inc. He served in the Administration of
> > George W. Bush as a speechwriter and International
> > Communications Coordinator for the Secretary of
> > Health
> > and Human Services from 2001 through 2004. He
> holds
> > bachelor's degrees in history and political
> science
> > from Furman University in Greenville, South
> > Carolina.
> > Mr. Trevi??o is a veteran of the United States
> Army
> > and
> > a native of Texas.
> > 
> > Dr. Steven F. Hayward , Senior Fellow,
> Environmental
> > Studies, PRI
> > Dr. Steven Hayward is the author of PRI???s annual
> > Index
> > of Leading Environmental Indicators, a major study
> > on
> > the state of the environment released each year on
> > Earth Day. He is also nationally recognized for
> his
> > books, The Real Jimmy Carter (Regnery Publishing,
> > 2004), The Age of Reagan: The Fall of the Old
> > Liberal
> > Order 1964-1980 (Prima Publishing, 2001), and
> > Churchill on Leadership: Executive Success in the
> > Face
> > of Adversity (Prima Publishing, 1997).
> > 
> > Dr. Hayward writes frequently on a wide range of
> > issues, including environmentalism, law,
> economics,
> > and public policy, and has published dozens of
> > articles in scholarly and popular journals. His
> work
> > has appeared in National Review, New York Times,
> > Wall
> > Street Journal, Reason, The Weekly Standard,
> Policy
> > Review, and Chicago Tribune. He is a Weyerhaeuser
> > Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, an
> > adjunct fellow of the John Ashbrook Center and a
> > former Bradley Fellow at the Heritage Foundation,
> > Weaver Fellow of the Intercollegiate Studies
> > Institute, Earhart Fellow, and Olive Garvey Fellow
> > of
> > the Mont Pelerin Society.
> > 
> > Dr. Hayward holds a Ph.D. in American Studies and
> a
> > M.A. in Government from Claremont Graduate School.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 01:30:25 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 01:30:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
	Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee
Message-ID: <503500.27234.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Time to drink Green uniTEA: The Team Earth
Antifaction! ;-)

I speak for the vast majority of Greens that hate that
two factions have brought our party to its knees.  A
pox on both their houses! Yet all of us are to blame
also for letting this insanity drag on and on.  Now we
have an opportunity to wipe the slate clean and start
over.  That's right, what do you do when an electronic
product fails?  Reboot!  Thankfully the Bylaws
Committee has prepared the following proposal for us
to start afresh with the CC.

The CC was always supposed to be a service
organization, not an executive function.  It has
ceased to serve ANY function.  Time to reboot!

Some have said 'why throw out the good apples with the
bad?'.  I say 'good apples??? Which good apples are
those?' - although I love these people as individuals,
as a collective they have utterly failed to serve
their function.  Time to reboot!

As John Morton <jlm108 at yahoo.com> said: "This party
belongs to not to the CC reps, not to the GA
delegates, not even to the 150,000 registered Greens
in CA.  It belongs to the hundreds of thousands, the
millions, who, if given the chance, would agree with
the 10 KV and commit to whatever degree to participate
in their propagation."  Time to reboot!

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!

Drew Johnson
Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
vote for reboot!

TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE

PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)

APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council

BACKGROUND: 
The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of an
ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many hours of
meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
useless due to infighting around "the LA situation,"
meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the CC.
Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
with contested seats has instead increased to 4. The
result is that the CC is no longer able to perform its
main function of planning plenaries.

This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who are
not and have not been involved in the party
infighting, much as a professional committee in the
business world will be reconstituted when unable to do
its work. It is
reconstituted with representation more proportionate
to
membership, as California has promoted in the national
party.

Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the chaos
around the facilitation procedures for the CC. Using
supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
decisions has resulted in the following situations:

* meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
items even discussed in the interest of
consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of an
agenda

* facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether to
add 5 minutes to an item
* long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted on
discussions of whether to add an item to the agenda,
alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator

* two different voting thresholds applying based
solely on whether the vote itself is taken online or
during a
teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject to
manipulations based on voting thresholds.

This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
facilitation procedures are based on two main
premises:
1. The decision-making body has authority over its
agenda.
2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
subtraction of discussion time, are not intended to
involve whole separate consensus processes and stacks
of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations on
the facilitation decision. (Note that the facilitation
rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
either.)

This proposal is a combination of a variety of ideas
for solving the CC's problems that have been brought
forward over recent months. The presenters hope that
adoption of this proposal will finally end the CC's
infighting based on historical animosities and give
the new CC a real opportunity to do its
bylaws-mandated job.

PROPOSAL: 
I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the GPCA
Coordinating Committee (CC)

a.All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days from
the
passage of this proposal.

b.Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA shall
allocate the 16 regional representative seats
proportionally to the Green Party membership in each
region. This calculation shall be performed by the
outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal Proportions
described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.

c.All regions shall announce new elections to fill the
regional representative seats as soon as possible.
Regions must hold open, transparent elections with at
least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as possible
in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
representative vacancies shall be posted to the county
contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
this proposal. Regions without alternate processes may
adopt temporary alternate processes for the purpose of
filling the seats in a timely manner.

d.No one who has served on the CC, or who has claimed
to serve on the CC, as representative or alternate,
over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible to
run for or fill any representative or alternate seat
on the CC for the next 2 years.

e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in order
to
stagger the ending dates. This depends on the new
apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
transitional terms would be expected to fall as
follows:

Even-Numbered Years
1 Emerald	January 2008
2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
1 San Francisco	May 2008
1 Silicon	June 2008
1 East Bay	July 2008
3 Los Angeles	November 2008
1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
1 ORSB	November 2008

Odd-Numbered Years
2 At-large	spring GA 2009
2 Central	May 2009
1 North Bay	May 2009
1 East Bay	July 2009
1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
1 Central Coast	August 2009
1 ORSB	November 2009

II.CC Facilitation Guidelines
GPCA CC meeting facilitation shall proceed according
to the following guidelines:

a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the CC
listserv at least one week in advance of a scheduled
meeting.

b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
simple majority threshold for approval. 

c. Changes in announced facilitation require a simple
majority threshold for approval.

d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
approved agenda requires a simple majority approval of
the CC. 

e. Adding a last minute item that was not submitted to
the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires a
2/3 threshold.

f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an item
is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an online
vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as if
the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
advance). If an item goes to an online vote without
being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80% threshold.

g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
majority (over half) decides to extend the call for a
specific amount of time. Decisions must then be made
within the time of the approved extension.

h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
facilitation
decisions can be done by asking quickly for "ayes" and
"nays," and only going to a roll call if approval is
unclear.

i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to take
thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
list,
amend them according to posted corrections, and post
the final version to both the CC listserv and the
archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
description and hiring criteria for this position.

j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic tasks
that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate this
schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it is
adopted.

TIMELINE: 
Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may take
place starting 2 weeks after passage of this proposal.
Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but may
not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
achieved. 

RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
budgeting funds for this.


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 01:36:04 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 01:36:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is this diatribe a press advisory?
In-Reply-To: <BAY115-F33F6462A1F9764B6DA6E1F9E340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <772247.28627.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sorry for late response.  Hopefully you didn't wait
and went ahead and and sent out what you had (maybe
with Carol's help???) I don't have any time to help
unfortunately, but I fully support what you're doing
and am fine with you putting a Santa Clara Green Party
endorsement on this (I'm confident our County Council
would/will approve).  Also the SVIC would approve this
too!

Impeach for Peace!

Drew

--- Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm kind of new to this, especially under time
> pressure.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Demonstrators will picket an appearance by Secretary
> of State
> Condoleeza Rice in Menlo Park on Thursday afternoon.
>   Ms.
> Rice will visit the Center for a New Generation at
> the James
> Flood school.
> 
> Condi lied to the 9/11 widows when she characterized
> the
> famous "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." memo
> as
> "historical information" that "did not warn of
> attacks inside
> the United States."  (1)  This testimony was given
> under
> oath before the 9/11 Commission on April 8, 2004.
> 
> A glance at the memo (also known as the August 6
> Presidential Daily Briefing, or P.D.B.) shows that
> it warns of
> "patterns of suspicious activity in this country
> [since 1998]
> consistent with preparations for hijackings or other
> types of
> attacks, including recent surveillance of federal
> buildings
> in New York" and warns also of "a call to our
> embassy in
> the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden
> supporters
> was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."  
> (2)
> 
> The facsimile of the document itself is also
> interesting.  At
> the bottom of both pages is a redacted section in
> the middle
> of the page.  (3) What's secret about a page number?
>  And
> why is the redaction so long?  If an article in the
> respected
> German weekly newspaper Die Zeit is correct, what's
> been
> redacted might be "Page 1 of 12,"  and the person
> who flew
> to Crawford to brief the President on the memo was
> George
> Tenet, then head of the CIA, (4) a man described by
> Counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke as one
> "running around with his hair on fire" at the time.
> 
> The President's response to this information, Ron
> Susskind's
> 2006 book "The One Percent Doctrine" tells us, was
> to say
> "All right. You've covered your ass,  now." (5)
> 
> Condi's utter  failure as National Security Advisor
> to prevent
> the 9/11 attacks,  demonstrators say, in no way
> qualified her
> to be Secretary of State.  For lying under oath to
> the widows,
> to the nation, and to the world, she should be
> impeached.
> 
> 1. 
>
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/08/rice.transcript/
> 2. 
>
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
> 3.  On this page   
>
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/index.htm
> appears the link to a .pdf  of the document
>
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/pdb8-6-2001.pdf
> 4.  "Deadly Mistakes: A Chronology of Failure"    by
> Oliver Shrom,
> October 2, 2002   
> http://www.antiwar.com/article.php?articleid=2305
> 5.  
>
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html
> 
>
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 09:15:20 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
	Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee
Message-ID: <540164.13574.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We need Green uniTEA my sisters and brothers!  

Just as during the cold war when the U.S. and U.S.S.R.
selfishly treated the world as if their empires were
the only thing that matter.  India arose to lead a
group  of nations to 'Just say no" to the warring
factions, to assert a Nonaligned Movement.  

I think its high time for us to assert our
independence of these two factions and to say to them
"NO! you won't have my endorsement and you destroy my
party!"  Join those of us who refuse to be sucked into
either faction's weak and self-serving justification
for their destructive actions.  We must save our party
from the tunnel vision of these two factions.

This Reboot the CC action will be the first step but
it can not be considered the complete solution.  We
must alter our culture and possibly our bylaws in such
a way whereby we do not allow any group of people to
hijack the party and we do not allow the *service*
organization of the CC to be perverted into an
executive function and become a political football 
grinding us to a halt again.  Together we must
consider how we solve these vexing issues.

We can not stand idly by and allow objectionable
domination behavior by anyone to control our party. 
We must change our culture from one of passive
acceptance of any old crazy behavior from factions or
individuals to a smoothly running self governance
style where we uphold our 10 Key Values and turn them
into the virtues they can be.  As a party if we
actually contribute and add value to people's lives we
will have no problem attracting members!

Reboot the CC first!  Then let's put our heads
together to make our party functional, effective and
progressive leaders.

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!
Drew Johnson
Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
vote for CC Reboot!
________________________________

Subject: "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee

Time to drink Green uniTEA: The Team Earth
Antifaction! ;-)

I speak for the vast majority of Greens that hate that
two factions have brought our party to its knees.  A
pox on both their houses! Yet all of us are to blame
also for letting this insanity drag on and on.  Now we
have an opportunity to wipe the slate clean and start
over.  That's right, what do you do when an electronic
product fails?  Reboot!  Thankfully the Bylaws
Committee has prepared the following proposal for us
to start afresh with the CC.

The CC was always supposed to be a service
organization, not an executive function.  It has
ceased to serve ANY function.  Time to reboot!

Some have said 'why throw out the good apples with the
bad?'.  I say 'good apples??? Which good apples are
those?' - although I love these people as individuals,
as a collective they have utterly failed to serve
their function.  Time to reboot!

As John Morton <jlm108 at yahoo.com> said: "This party
belongs to not to the CC reps, not to the GA
delegates, not even to the 150,000 registered Greens
in CA.  It belongs to the hundreds of thousands, the
millions, who, if given the chance, would agree with
the 10 KV and commit to whatever degree to participate
in their propagation."  Time to reboot!

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!

Drew Johnson
Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
vote for reboot!

TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE

PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)

APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council

BACKGROUND: 
The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of an
ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many hours of
meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
useless due to infighting around "the LA situation,"
meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the CC.
Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
with contested seats has instead increased to 4. The
result is that the CC is no longer able to perform its
main function of planning plenaries.

This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who are
not and have not been involved in the party
infighting, much as a professional committee in the
business world will be reconstituted when unable to do
its work. It is
reconstituted with representation more proportionate
to
membership, as California has promoted in the national
party.

Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the chaos
around the facilitation procedures for the CC. Using
supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
decisions has resulted in the following situations:

* meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
items even discussed in the interest of
consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of an
agenda

* facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether to
add 5 minutes to an item
* long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted on
discussions of whether to add an item to the agenda,
alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator

* two different voting thresholds applying based
solely on whether the vote itself is taken online or
during a
teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject to
manipulations based on voting thresholds.

This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
facilitation procedures are based on two main
premises:
1. The decision-making body has authority over its
agenda.
2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
subtraction of discussion time, are not intended to
involve whole separate consensus processes and stacks
of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations on
the facilitation decision. (Note that the facilitation
rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
either.)

This proposal is a combination of a variety of ideas
for solving the CC's problems that have been brought
forward over recent months. The presenters hope that
adoption of this proposal will finally end the CC's
infighting based on historical animosities and give
the new CC a real opportunity to do its
bylaws-mandated job.

PROPOSAL: 
I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the GPCA
Coordinating Committee (CC)

a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days from
the passage of this proposal.

b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
shall
allocate the 16 regional representative seats
proportionally to the Green Party membership in each
region. This calculation shall be performed by the
outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal Proportions
described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.

c. All regions shall announce new elections to fill
the
regional representative seats as soon as possible.
Regions must hold open, transparent elections with at
least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as possible
in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
representative vacancies shall be posted to the county
contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
this proposal. Regions without alternate processes may
adopt temporary alternate processes for the purpose of
filling the seats in a timely manner.

d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has claimed
to serve on the CC, as representative or alternate,
over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible to
run for or fill any representative or alternate seat
on the CC for the next 2 years.

e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in order
to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the new
apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
transitional terms would be expected to fall as
follows:

Even-Numbered Years
1 Emerald	January 2008
2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
1 San Francisco	May 2008
1 Silicon	June 2008
1 East Bay	July 2008
3 Los Angeles	November 2008
1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
1 ORSB	November 2008

Odd-Numbered Years
2 At-large	spring GA 2009
2 Central	May 2009
1 North Bay	May 2009
1 East Bay	July 2009
1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
1 Central Coast	August 2009
1 ORSB	November 2009

II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
facilitation shall proceed according to the following
guidelines:

a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the CC
listserv at least one week in advance of a scheduled
meeting.

b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
simple majority threshold for approval. 

c. Changes in announced facilitation require a simple
majority threshold for approval.

d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
approved agenda requires a simple majority approval of
the CC. 

e. Adding a last minute item that was not submitted to
the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires a
2/3 threshold.

f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an item
is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an online
vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as if
the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
advance). If an item goes to an online vote without
being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80% threshold.

g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
majority (over half) decides to extend the call for a
specific amount of time. Decisions must then be made
within the time of the approved extension.

h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
facilitation decisions can be done by asking quickly
for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll call
if approval is unclear.

i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to take
thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
list, amend them according to posted corrections, and
post the final version to both the CC listserv and the
archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
description and hiring criteria for this position.

j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic tasks
that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate this
schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it is
adopted.

TIMELINE: 
Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may take
place starting 2 weeks after passage of this proposal.
Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but may
not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
achieved. 

RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
budgeting funds for this.

___________________

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu May 24 12:00:44 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:00:44 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA
	Nonaligned	Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee
References: <540164.13574.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4655E0DC.306@earthlink.net>


Comments interspersed below.


JamBoi wrote:

> We need Green uniTEA my sisters and brothers!  
> 
> Just as during the cold war when the U.S. and U.S.S.R.
> selfishly treated the world as if their empires were
> the only thing that matter.  India arose to lead a
> group  of nations to 'Just say no" to the warring
> factions, to assert a Nonaligned Movement.  
> 
> I think its high time for us to assert our
> independence of these two factions and to say to them
> "NO! you won't have my endorsement and you destroy my
> party!"  Join those of us who refuse to be sucked into
> either faction's weak and self-serving justification
> for their destructive actions.  We must save our party
> from the tunnel vision of these two factions.
> 
> This Reboot the CC action will be the first step but
> it can not be considered the complete solution.  We
> must alter our culture and possibly our bylaws in such
> a way whereby we do not allow any group of people to
> hijack the party and we do not allow the *service*
> organization of the CC to be perverted into an
> executive function and become a political football 
> grinding us to a halt again.  Together we must
> consider how we solve these vexing issues.
> 
> We can not stand idly by and allow objectionable
> domination behavior by anyone to control our party. 
> We must change our culture from one of passive
> acceptance of any old crazy behavior from factions or
> individuals to a smoothly running self governance
> style where we uphold our 10 Key Values and turn them
> into the virtues they can be.  As a party if we
> actually contribute and add value to people's lives we
> will have no problem attracting members!
> 
> Reboot the CC first!  Then let's put our heads
> together to make our party functional, effective and
> progressive leaders.


> 
> Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!
> Drew Johnson
> Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
> vote for CC Reboot!
> ________________________________
> 
> Subject: "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
> Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee
> 
> Time to drink Green uniTEA: The Team Earth
> Antifaction! ;-)
> 
> I speak for the vast majority of Greens that hate that
> two factions have brought our party to its knees.  A
> pox on both their houses! Yet all of us are to blame
> also for letting this insanity drag on and on.  Now we
> have an opportunity to wipe the slate clean and start
> over.  That's right, what do you do when an electronic
> product fails?  Reboot!  Thankfully the Bylaws
> Committee has prepared the following proposal for us
> to start afresh with the CC.
> 
> The CC was always supposed to be a service
> organization, not an executive function.  It has
> ceased to serve ANY function.  Time to reboot!
> 
> Some have said 'why throw out the good apples with the
> bad?'.  I say 'good apples??? Which good apples are
> those?' - although I love these people as individuals,
> as a collective they have utterly failed to serve
> their function.  Time to reboot!


Although I basically agree that the CC has not been
functioning well for a long time, I ask "Why will a
reboot improve matters?"


> 
> As John Morton <jlm108 at yahoo.com> said: "This party
> belongs to not to the CC reps, not to the GA
> delegates, not even to the 150,000 registered Greens
> in CA.  It belongs to the hundreds of thousands, the
> millions, who, if given the chance, would agree with
> the 10 KV and commit to whatever degree to participate
> in their propagation."  Time to reboot!
> 
> Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!


Isn't TEA a faction?


> 
> Drew Johnson
> Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
> vote for reboot!
> 
> TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
> RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE
> 
> PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
> Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)
> 
> APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council
> 
> BACKGROUND: 
> The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
> deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of an
> ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many hours of
> meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
> useless due to infighting around "the LA situation,"
> meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the CC.
> Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
> resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
> with contested seats has instead increased to 4. The
> result is that the CC is no longer able to perform its
> main function of planning plenaries.
> 
> This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who are
> not and have not been involved in the party
> infighting, much as a professional committee in the
> business world will be reconstituted when unable to do
> its work. It is
> reconstituted with representation more proportionate
> to
> membership, as California has promoted in the national
> party.
> 
> Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the chaos
> around the facilitation procedures for the CC. Using
> supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
> decisions has resulted in the following situations:
> 
> * meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
> items even discussed in the interest of
> consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of an
> agenda
> 
> * facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether to
> add 5 minutes to an item
> * long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted on
> discussions of whether to add an item to the agenda,
> alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator
> 
> * two different voting thresholds applying based
> solely on whether the vote itself is taken online or
> during a
> teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject to
> manipulations based on voting thresholds.
> 
> This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
> procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
> meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
> facilitation procedures are based on two main
> premises:
> 1. The decision-making body has authority over its
> agenda.
> 2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
> approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
> subtraction of discussion time, are not intended to
> involve whole separate consensus processes and stacks
> of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations on
> the facilitation decision. (Note that the facilitation
> rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
> either.)
> 
> This proposal is a combination of a variety of ideas
> for solving the CC's problems that have been brought
> forward over recent months. The presenters hope that
> adoption of this proposal will finally end the CC's
> infighting based on historical animosities and give
> the new CC a real opportunity to do its
> bylaws-mandated job.
> 
> PROPOSAL: 
> I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the GPCA
> Coordinating Committee (CC)
> 
> a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days from
> the passage of this proposal.
> 
> b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
> shall
> allocate the 16 regional representative seats
> proportionally to the Green Party membership in each
> region. This calculation shall be performed by the
> outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
> Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal Proportions
> described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.
> 
> c. All regions shall announce new elections to fill
> the
> regional representative seats as soon as possible.
> Regions must hold open, transparent elections with at
> least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as possible
> in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
> representative vacancies shall be posted to the county
> contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
> this proposal. Regions without alternate processes may
> adopt temporary alternate processes for the purpose of
> filling the seats in a timely manner.


Hmm, if I combine the above ...

- the CC will have 16 voting members out of 20 leaving
   after 30 days
- new members will only come in after the proportionality
   is recomputed and announcements are made and 3 weeks
   go by after the announcements are made and elections
   are held, practically speaking, there may be a lot
   of vacant seats for awhile


> 
> d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has claimed
> to serve on the CC, as representative or alternate,
> over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible to
> run for or fill any representative or alternate seat
> on the CC for the next 2 years.


I wonder if you can find 16 people who are willing to
be on the CC that meet this condition.  Traditionally
the Regional Rep "elections" have not been very contested.



> 
> e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in order
> to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the new
> apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
> transitional terms would be expected to fall as
> follows:
> 
> Even-Numbered Years
> 1 Emerald	January 2008
> 2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
> 1 San Francisco	May 2008
> 1 Silicon	June 2008
> 1 East Bay	July 2008
> 3 Los Angeles	November 2008
> 1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
> 1 ORSB	November 2008
> 
> Odd-Numbered Years
> 2 At-large	spring GA 2009
> 2 Central	May 2009
> 1 North Bay	May 2009
> 1 East Bay	July 2009
> 1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
> 1 Central Coast	August 2009
> 1 ORSB	November 2009


I wonder how this scedule has been determined.
And I suspect that some will question the motives
for this schedule.

I may have missed something, but it seems that this
proposal will kick the At-large Reps off and not
replace them.  Why?


> 
> II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
> facilitation shall proceed according to the following
> guidelines:
> 
> a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the CC
> listserv at least one week in advance of a scheduled
> meeting.


It's about time.


> 
> b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
> prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
> simple majority threshold for approval. 
> 
> c. Changes in announced facilitation require a simple
> majority threshold for approval.
> 
> d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
> approved agenda requires a simple majority approval of
> the CC. 
> 
> e. Adding a last minute item that was not submitted to
> the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires a
> 2/3 threshold.
> 
> f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
> teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an item
> is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an online
> vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as if
> the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
> regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
> scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
> advance). If an item goes to an online vote without
> being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80% threshold.
> 
> g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
> scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
> majority (over half) decides to extend the call for a
> specific amount of time. Decisions must then be made
> within the time of the approved extension.
> 
> h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
> facilitation decisions can be done by asking quickly
> for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll call
> if approval is unclear.
> 
> i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to take
> thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
> list, amend them according to posted corrections, and
> post the final version to both the CC listserv and the
> archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
> description and hiring criteria for this position.


FYI, that job has been open for a long time with some
advertising and no takers.


> 
> j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic tasks
> that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate this
> schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it is
> adopted.
> 
> TIMELINE: 
> Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may take
> place starting 2 weeks after passage of this proposal.


How can you have elections starting 2 weeks after?
If this means voting in 2 weeks, then that violates
the 3 week notification above.  If it means that
notifications happen after 2 weeks, then this would
seem to mean that voting would not happen for 5 weeks
which would mean at least 12 days with no regional reps.


> Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but may
> not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
> achieved. 


In the past, the quorum was set at 2/3 of the filled
seats, so this would set the threshold higher if there
are empty seats.


> 
> RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
> budgeting funds for this.
> 



- Off hand the facilitation changes seem a good idea.

- One thing that has often been talked about, but noone
   (that I know of) has ever followed through on, is
   an orientation process / booklet for new CC members.

Gerry



From tnharter at ispwest.com  Thu May 24 15:01:34 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:01:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Letter found in the Santa Clara County Green
	Party mailbox...
Message-ID: <46560B3E.7070003@ispwest.com>

http://tian.greens.org/SantaClaraCounty/GreenParty/BoxerLetterMay07.html

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
We picketed the Santa Clara County Republicans Tuesday in Sunnyvale.



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 17:43:59 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 17:43:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
	Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee
In-Reply-To: <4655E0DC.306@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <122689.1109.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Gerry

TEA will be an 'Antifaction'!  In the best "pun is
mightier than the gun" (Tian's humor) fashion we will
not meet or scheme or organize in any fashion. :-) 
We'll just distribute green tea (uniTEA) at the GA and
other green meetings. ;-)  And work for unity!  Its
like a flashmob movement.  Its just spontaneously
forming.

A reboot will work because all the present faction
participaters will be booted out of the CC.  This will
break the current stalemate that has had the CC
frozen.  It will buy time for us to figure out the
cultural (and 
possibly bylaw) changes we need to enact to get us to
a better place. :-) 

Your detailed questions about the proposal that Mike
Wyman and  Marilyn Ditmanson are great, but should
probably be directed to them.  I'll forward your note
on to them...

If I had written it I would have simply said: 1) all
current CC members are off starting now, 2) anyone on
the CC currently or going back five years are
ineligible and 3) the CC will be repopulated by new
appointment/election of their various constituents as
soon as possible.  I would have kept it extremely
simple have made any immediate structural changes.

But I didn't write it, so... maybe its a case of we go
to the GA with the proposal that's been proposed
rather than the one we might wish we had. :-)  I note
that this is coming from a County Council, and we in
GPSCC could certainly take the initiative in the
future to make this kind of proposal.

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!

Drew Johnson
Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
vote for CC Reboot!



--- Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> Comments interspersed below.
> 
> 
> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> > We need Green uniTEA my sisters and brothers!  
> > 
> > Just as during the cold war when the U.S. and
> U.S.S.R.
> > selfishly treated the world as if their empires
> were
> > the only thing that matter.  India arose to lead a
> > group  of nations to 'Just say no" to the warring
> > factions, to assert a Nonaligned Movement.  
> > 
> > I think its high time for us to assert our
> > independence of these two factions and to say to
> them
> > "NO! you won't have my endorsement and you destroy
> my
> > party!"  Join those of us who refuse to be sucked
> into
> > either faction's weak and self-serving
> justification
> > for their destructive actions.  We must save our
> party
> > from the tunnel vision of these two factions.
> > 
> > This Reboot the CC action will be the first step
> but
> > it can not be considered the complete solution. 
> We
> > must alter our culture and possibly our bylaws in
> such
> > a way whereby we do not allow any group of people
> to
> > hijack the party and we do not allow the *service*
> > organization of the CC to be perverted into an
> > executive function and become a political football
> 
> > grinding us to a halt again.  Together we must
> > consider how we solve these vexing issues.
> > 
> > We can not stand idly by and allow objectionable
> > domination behavior by anyone to control our
> party. 
> > We must change our culture from one of passive
> > acceptance of any old crazy behavior from factions
> or
> > individuals to a smoothly running self governance
> > style where we uphold our 10 Key Values and turn
> them
> > into the virtues they can be.  As a party if we
> > actually contribute and add value to people's
> lives we
> > will have no problem attracting members!
> > 
> > Reboot the CC first!  Then let's put our heads
> > together to make our party functional, effective
> and
> > progressive leaders.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!
> > Drew Johnson
> > Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
> > vote for CC Reboot!
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > Subject: "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA
> Nonaligned
> > Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee
> > 
> > Time to drink Green uniTEA: The Team Earth
> > Antifaction! ;-)
> > 
> > I speak for the vast majority of Greens that hate
> that
> > two factions have brought our party to its knees. 
> A
> > pox on both their houses! Yet all of us are to
> blame
> > also for letting this insanity drag on and on. 
> Now we
> > have an opportunity to wipe the slate clean and
> start
> > over.  That's right, what do you do when an
> electronic
> > product fails?  Reboot!  Thankfully the Bylaws
> > Committee has prepared the following proposal for
> us
> > to start afresh with the CC.
> > 
> > The CC was always supposed to be a service
> > organization, not an executive function.  It has
> > ceased to serve ANY function.  Time to reboot!
> > 
> > Some have said 'why throw out the good apples with
> the
> > bad?'.  I say 'good apples??? Which good apples
> are
> > those?' - although I love these people as
> individuals,
> > as a collective they have utterly failed to serve
> > their function.  Time to reboot!
> 
> 
> Although I basically agree that the CC has not been
> functioning well for a long time, I ask "Why will a
> reboot improve matters?"
> 
> 
> > 
> > As John Morton <jlm108 at yahoo.com> said: "This
> party
> > belongs to not to the CC reps, not to the GA
> > delegates, not even to the 150,000 registered
> Greens
> > in CA.  It belongs to the hundreds of thousands,
> the
> > millions, who, if given the chance, would agree
> with
> > the 10 KV and commit to whatever degree to
> participate
> > in their propagation."  Time to reboot!
> > 
> > Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!
> 
> 
> Isn't TEA a faction?
> 
> 
> > 
> > Drew Johnson
> > Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
> > vote for reboot!
> > 
> > TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
> > RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE
> > 
> > PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
> > Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)
> > 
> > APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council
> > 
> > BACKGROUND: 
> > The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
> > deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of
> an
> > ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many
> hours of
> > meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
> > useless due to infighting around "the LA
> situation,"
> > meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the
> CC.
> > Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
> > resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
> > with contested seats has instead increased to 4.
> The
> > result is that the CC is no longer able to perform
> its
> > main function of planning plenaries.
> > 
> > This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who
> are
> > not and have not been involved in the party
> > infighting, much as a professional committee in
> the
> > business world will be reconstituted when unable
> to do
> > its work. It is
> > reconstituted with representation more
> proportionate
> > to
> > membership, as California has promoted in the
> national
> > party.
> > 
> > Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the
> chaos
> > around the facilitation procedures for the CC.
> Using
> > supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
> > decisions has resulted in the following
> situations:
> > 
> > * meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
> > items even discussed in the interest of
> > consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of
> an
> > agenda
> > 
> > * facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether
> to
> > add 5 minutes to an item
> > * long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted
> on
> > discussions of whether to add an item to the
> agenda,
> > alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator
> > 
> > * two different voting thresholds applying based
> > solely on whether the vote itself is taken online
> or
> > during a
> > teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject
> to
> > manipulations based on voting thresholds.
> > 
> > This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
> > procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
> > meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
> > facilitation procedures are based on two main
> > premises:
> > 1. The decision-making body has authority over its
> > agenda.
> > 2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
> > approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
> > subtraction of discussion time, are not intended
> to
> > involve whole separate consensus processes and
> stacks
> > of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations
> on
> > the facilitation decision. (Note that the
> facilitation
> > rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
> > either.)
> > 
> > This proposal is a combination of a variety of
> ideas
> > for solving the CC's problems that have been
> brought
> > forward over recent months. The presenters hope
> that
> > adoption of this proposal will finally end the
> CC's
> > infighting based on historical animosities and
> give
> > the new CC a real opportunity to do its
> > bylaws-mandated job.
> > 
> > PROPOSAL: 
> > I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the
> GPCA
> > Coordinating Committee (CC)
> > 
> > a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days
> from
> > the passage of this proposal.
> > 
> > b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
> > shall
> > allocate the 16 regional representative seats
> > proportionally to the Green Party membership in
> each
> > region. This calculation shall be performed by the
> > outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
> > Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal
> Proportions
> > described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.
> > 
> > c. All regions shall announce new elections to
> fill
> > the
> > regional representative seats as soon as possible.
> > Regions must hold open, transparent elections with
> at
> > least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as
> possible
> > in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
> > representative vacancies shall be posted to the
> county
> > contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
> > this proposal. Regions without alternate processes
> may
> > adopt temporary alternate processes for the
> purpose of
> > filling the seats in a timely manner.
> 
> 
> Hmm, if I combine the above ...
> 
> - the CC will have 16 voting members out of 20
> leaving
>    after 30 days
> - new members will only come in after the
> proportionality
>    is recomputed and announcements are made and 3
> weeks
>    go by after the announcements are made and
> elections
>    are held, practically speaking, there may be a
> lot
>    of vacant seats for awhile
> 
> 
> > 
> > d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has
> claimed
> > to serve on the CC, as representative or
> alternate,
> > over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible
> to
> > run for or fill any representative or alternate
> seat
> > on the CC for the next 2 years.
> 
> 
> I wonder if you can find 16 people who are willing
> to
> be on the CC that meet this condition. 
> Traditionally
> the Regional Rep "elections" have not been very
> contested.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in
> order
> > to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the
> new
> > apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
> > transitional terms would be expected to fall as
> > follows:
> > 
> > Even-Numbered Years
> > 1 Emerald	January 2008
> > 2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
> > 1 San Francisco	May 2008
> > 1 Silicon	June 2008
> > 1 East Bay	July 2008
> > 3 Los Angeles	November 2008
> > 1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
> > 1 ORSB	November 2008
> > 
> > Odd-Numbered Years
> > 2 At-large	spring GA 2009
> > 2 Central	May 2009
> > 1 North Bay	May 2009
> > 1 East Bay	July 2009
> > 1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
> > 1 Central Coast	August 2009
> > 1 ORSB	November 2009
> 
> 
> I wonder how this scedule has been determined.
> And I suspect that some will question the motives
> for this schedule.
> 
> I may have missed something, but it seems that this
> proposal will kick the At-large Reps off and not
> replace them.  Why?
> 
> 
> > 
> > II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
> > facilitation shall proceed according to the
> following
> > guidelines:
> > 
> > a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the
> CC
> > listserv at least one week in advance of a
> scheduled
> > meeting.
> 
> 
> It's about time.
> 
> 
> > 
> > b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
> > prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
> > simple majority threshold for approval. 
> > 
> > c. Changes in announced facilitation require a
> simple
> > majority threshold for approval.
> > 
> > d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
> > approved agenda requires a simple majority
> approval of
> > the CC. 
> > 
> > e. Adding a last minute item that was not
> submitted to
> > the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires
> a
> > 2/3 threshold.
> > 
> > f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
> > teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an
> item
> > is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an
> online
> > vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as
> if
> > the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
> > regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
> > scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
> > advance). If an item goes to an online vote
> without
> > being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80%
> threshold.
> > 
> > g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
> > scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
> > majority (over half) decides to extend the call
> for a
> > specific amount of time. Decisions must then be
> made
> > within the time of the approved extension.
> > 
> > h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
> > facilitation decisions can be done by asking
> quickly
> > for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll
> call
> > if approval is unclear.
> > 
> > i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to
> take
> > thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
> > list, amend them according to posted corrections,
> and
> > post the final version to both the CC listserv and
> the
> > archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
> > description and hiring criteria for this position.
> 
> 
> FYI, that job has been open for a long time with
> some
> advertising and no takers.
> 
> 
> > 
> > j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic
> tasks
> > that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate
> this
> > schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it
> is
> > adopted.
> > 
> > TIMELINE: 
> > Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may
> take
> > place starting 2 weeks after passage of this
> proposal.
> 
> 
> How can you have elections starting 2 weeks after?
> If this means voting in 2 weeks, then that violates
> the 3 week notification above.  If it means that
> notifications happen after 2 weeks, then this would
> seem to mean that voting would not happen for 5
> weeks
> which would mean at least 12 days with no regional
> reps.
> 
> 
> > Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but
> may
> > not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
> > achieved. 
> 
> 
> In the past, the quorum was set at 2/3 of the filled
> seats, so this would set the threshold higher if
> there
> are empty seats.
> 
> 
> > 
> > RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
> > budgeting funds for this.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> - Off hand the facilitation changes seem a good
> idea.
> 
> - One thing that has often been talked about, but
> noone
>    (that I know of) has ever followed through on, is
>    an orientation process / booklet for new CC
> members.
> 
> Gerry
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 18:02:06 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 18:02:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Questions about Reboot Proposal
Message-ID: <927033.7548.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear Mike and Marilyn,

Former Co Coordinator of the C.C., Gerry Gras had the
following questions to ask about the 'Reboot'
proposal.  Can either or both of you respond?

Greens for an functional GPCA!

Drew Johnson
GPSCC delegate, working to build consensus for the
Reboot Proposal
______________________________________

From:	"Gerry Gras" <gerrygras at earthlink.net> 
To:	JamBoi at Greens.org
CC:	"scc" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Reboot the CC!" says
Green uniTEA Nonaligned Movement; Proposal for GA from
Bylaws Committee

<SNIP>

> TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
> RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE
> 
> PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
> Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)
> 
> APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council
> 
> BACKGROUND: 
> The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
> deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of
an
> ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many hours
of
> meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
> useless due to infighting around "the LA situation,"
> meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the CC.
> Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
> resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
> with contested seats has instead increased to 4. The
> result is that the CC is no longer able to perform
its
> main function of planning plenaries.
> 
> This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who
are
> not and have not been involved in the party
> infighting, much as a professional committee in the
> business world will be reconstituted when unable to
do
> its work. It is
> reconstituted with representation more proportionate
> to
> membership, as California has promoted in the
national
> party.
> 
> Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the chaos
> around the facilitation procedures for the CC. Using
> supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
> decisions has resulted in the following situations:
> 
> * meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
> items even discussed in the interest of
> consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of
an
> agenda
> 
> * facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether to
> add 5 minutes to an item
> * long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted on
> discussions of whether to add an item to the agenda,
> alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator
> 
> * two different voting thresholds applying based
> solely on whether the vote itself is taken online or
> during a
> teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject to
> manipulations based on voting thresholds.
> 
> This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
> procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
> meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
> facilitation procedures are based on two main
> premises:
> 1. The decision-making body has authority over its
> agenda.
> 2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
> approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
> subtraction of discussion time, are not intended to
> involve whole separate consensus processes and
stacks
> of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations
on
> the facilitation decision. (Note that the
facilitation
> rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
> either.)
> 
> This proposal is a combination of a variety of ideas
> for solving the CC's problems that have been brought
> forward over recent months. The presenters hope that
> adoption of this proposal will finally end the CC's
> infighting based on historical animosities and give
> the new CC a real opportunity to do its
> bylaws-mandated job.
> 
> PROPOSAL: 
> I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the GPCA
> Coordinating Committee (CC)
> 
> a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days from
> the passage of this proposal.
> 
> b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
> shall
> allocate the 16 regional representative seats
> proportionally to the Green Party membership in each
> region. This calculation shall be performed by the
> outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
> Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal
Proportions
> described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.
> 
> c. All regions shall announce new elections to fill
> the
> regional representative seats as soon as possible.
> Regions must hold open, transparent elections with
at
> least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as
possible
> in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
> representative vacancies shall be posted to the
county
> contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
> this proposal. Regions without alternate processes
may
> adopt temporary alternate processes for the purpose
of
> filling the seats in a timely manner.


Hmm, if I combine the above ...

- the CC will have 16 voting members out of 20 leaving
   after 30 days
- new members will only come in after the
proportionality
   is recomputed and announcements are made and 3
weeks
   go by after the announcements are made and
elections
   are held, practically speaking, there may be a lot
   of vacant seats for awhile


> 
> d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has
claimed
> to serve on the CC, as representative or alternate,
> over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible to
> run for or fill any representative or alternate seat
> on the CC for the next 2 years.


I wonder if you can find 16 people who are willing to
be on the CC that meet this condition.  Traditionally
the Regional Rep "elections" have not been very
contested.



> 
> e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in order
> to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the new
> apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
> transitional terms would be expected to fall as
> follows:
> 
> Even-Numbered Years
> 1 Emerald	January 2008
> 2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
> 1 San Francisco	May 2008
> 1 Silicon	June 2008
> 1 East Bay	July 2008
> 3 Los Angeles	November 2008
> 1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
> 1 ORSB	November 2008
> 
> Odd-Numbered Years
> 2 At-large	spring GA 2009
> 2 Central	May 2009
> 1 North Bay	May 2009
> 1 East Bay	July 2009
> 1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
> 1 Central Coast	August 2009
> 1 ORSB	November 2009


I wonder how this scedule has been determined.
And I suspect that some will question the motives
for this schedule.

I may have missed something, but it seems that this
proposal will kick the At-large Reps off and not
replace them.  Why?


> 
> II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
> facilitation shall proceed according to the
following
> guidelines:
> 
> a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the CC
> listserv at least one week in advance of a scheduled
> meeting.


It's about time.


> 
> b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
> prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
> simple majority threshold for approval. 
> 
> c. Changes in announced facilitation require a
simple
> majority threshold for approval.
> 
> d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
> approved agenda requires a simple majority approval
of
> the CC. 
> 
> e. Adding a last minute item that was not submitted
to
> the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires a
> 2/3 threshold.
> 
> f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
> teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an
item
> is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an
online
> vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as if
> the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
> regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
> scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
> advance). If an item goes to an online vote without
> being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80%
threshold.
> 
> g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
> scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
> majority (over half) decides to extend the call for
a
> specific amount of time. Decisions must then be made
> within the time of the approved extension.
> 
> h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
> facilitation decisions can be done by asking quickly
> for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll call
> if approval is unclear.
> 
> i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to
take
> thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
> list, amend them according to posted corrections,
and
> post the final version to both the CC listserv and
the
> archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
> description and hiring criteria for this position.


FYI, that job has been open for a long time with some
advertising and no takers.


> 
> j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic
tasks
> that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate this
> schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it is
> adopted.
> 
> TIMELINE: 
> Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may take
> place starting 2 weeks after passage of this
proposal.


How can you have elections starting 2 weeks after?
If this means voting in 2 weeks, then that violates
the 3 week notification above.  If it means that
notifications happen after 2 weeks, then this would
seem to mean that voting would not happen for 5 weeks
which would mean at least 12 days with no regional
reps.


> Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but
may
> not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
> achieved. 


In the past, the quorum was set at 2/3 of the filled
seats, so this would set the threshold higher if there
are empty seats.


> 
> RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
> budgeting funds for this.
> 



- Off hand the facilitation changes seem a good idea.

- One thing that has often been talked about, but
noone
   (that I know of) has ever followed through on, is
   an orientation process / booklet for new CC
members.

Gerry



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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 18:03:18 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 18:03:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Re: [usgp-media] Canadian Green Party
	organic beekeeper on bee problems
Message-ID: <3992.46438.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Rebecca <rebelrot at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Rebecca <rebelrot at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [usgp-media] Canadian Green Party
> organic beekeeper on bee problems
> To: Nancy Allen <nallen at prexar.com>,
> usgp-media at lists.gp-us.org
> CC: natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> Nancy thank you for this!  One of our local greens
> met his beekeeper neighbor while canvassing and
> learned a lot about the problem.  He said that one
> of the alarming things is the fact that everything
> green around us will suffer as plant pollination
> will be affected by the decline in population.  The
> carting around of bees is being done by the big GMO
> food  companies.  Just thinking about global warming
> issues alone this is some serious and scary math
> without thinking about good food! 
> 
> Rebecca 
> 
> Nancy Allen <nallen at prexar.com> wrote: "Sharon
> Labchuk is a longtime environmental  activist and
> part-time organic 
> beekeeper from Prince Edward Island. She has  twice
> run for a seat in Ottawa's 
> House of Commons, making strong showings around  5%
> for Canada's fledgling 
> Green Party. She is also leader of the provincial
> wing  of her party. In a widely 
> circulated email, she wrote:
> 
> I'm on an organic  beekeeping list of about 1,000
> people, mostly Americans, 
> and no one in the  organic beekeeping world,
> including commercial beekeepers, 
> is reporting  colony collapse on this list. The
> problem with the big commercial 
> guys is  that they put pesticides in their hives to
> fumigate for varroa 
> mites, and they  feed antibiotics to the bees. They
> also haul the hives by truck 
> all over the  place to make more money with
> pollination services, which stresses 
> the  colonies.
> 
> Her email recommends a visit to the Bush Bees Web
> site at Here  
> __ (http://bushfarms.com/bees.htm)  ,  Michael Bush
> felt 
> compelled to put a message to the beekeeping world
> right on  the top page:
> 
> Most of us beekeepers are fighting with the Varroa
> mites.  I'm happy to say 
> my biggest problems are things like trying to get
> nucs through  the winter and 
> coming up with hives that won't hurt my back from
> lifting or  better ways to 
> feed the bees.
> 
> This change from fighting the mites is  mostly
> because I've gone to natural 
> sized cells. In case you weren't aware, and  I
> wasn't for a long time, the 
> foundation in common usage results in much larger 
> bees than what you would find 
> in a natural hive. I've measured sections of 
> natural worker brood comb that 
> are 4.6mm in diameter. What most people use for 
> worker brood is foundation that 
> is 5.4mm in diameter. If you translate that into 
> three dimensions instead of 
> one, it produces a bee that is about half as large 
> again as is natural. By 
> letting the bees build natural sized cells, I have 
> virtually eliminated my 
> Varroa and Tracheal mite problems. One cause of this
> is  shorter capping times by 
> one day, and shorter post-capping times by one day. 
> This means less Varroa 
> get into the cells, and less Varroa reproduce in the
>  cells.
> 
> Who should be surprised that the major media reports
> forget to  tell us that 
> the dying bees are actually hyper-bred varieties
> that we coax into  a larger 
> than normal body size? It sounds just like the beef
> industry. And, have  we 
> here a solution to the vanishing bee problem? Is it
> one that the CCD Working  
> Group, or indeed, the scientific world at large,
> will support? Will media  
> coverage affect government action in dealing with
> this issue?
> 
> These are  important questions to ask. It is not an
> uncommonly held opinion 
> that, although  this new pattern of bee colony
> collapse seems to have struck 
> from out of the  blue (which suggests a triggering
> agent), it is likely that 
> some biological  limit in the bees has been crossed.
> There is no shortage of 
> evidence that we  have been fast approaching this
> limit for some time.
> 
> We've been pushing  them too hard, Dr. Peter Kevan,
> an associate professor of 
> environmental biology  at the University of Guelph
> in Ontario, told the CBC. 
> And we're starving them  out by feeding them
> artificially and moving them 
> great distances. Given the  stress commercial bees
> are under, Kevan suggests CCD 
> might be caused by  parasitic mites, or long cold
> winters, or long wet springs, 
> or pesticides, or  genetically modified crops. Maybe
> it's all of the above...
> 
> Article  Received from Lancifer
> 
> Discuss this article in the forum 
> __
>
(http://www.redicecreations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=524)
>   
> 
> 
> Pat  Rasmussen
> World Temperate Rainforest Network
> PO Box 154
> Peshastin, WA  98847
> 509-669-1549
> patr at crcwnet.com
> www.temperaterainforests.org __ 
> (http://www.temperaterainforests.org/)   
> 
> 
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 18:06:02 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 18:06:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Palast on "caging"
Message-ID: <970215.47343.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The Goods on Goodling and the Keys to the Kingdom
Special to BRADBLOG
by Greg Palast

This Monica revealed something hotter ? much hotter ?
than a stained blue dress. In her opening testimony
yesterday before the House Judiciary Committee, Monica
Goodling, the blonde-ling underling to Attorney
General Alberto Gonzales and Department of Justice
Liaison to the White House, dropped The Big One
.And
the Committee members didn?t even know it.

Goodling testified that Gonzales? Chief of Staff, Kyle
Sampson, perjured himself, lying to the committee in
earlier testimony. The lie: Sampson denied Monica had
told him about Tim Griffin?s ?involvement in ?caging?
voters? in 2004.

Huh?? Tim Griffin? ?Caging????

The perplexed committee members hadn?t a clue ? and
asked no substantive questions about it thereafter.
Karl Rove is still smiling. If the members had gotten
the clue, and asked the right questions, they would
have found ?the keys to the kingdom,? they thought
they were looking for. They dangled right in front of
their perplexed faces.

The keys: the missing emails ? and missing link ? that
could send Griffin and his boss, Rove, to the slammer
for a long, long time.

Kingdom enough for ya?

But what?s ?caging? and why is it such a dreadful
secret that lawyer Sampson put his license to practice
and his freedom on the line to cover Tim Griffin?s
involvement in it? Because it?s a felony. And a big
one.

Our BBC team broke the story at the top of the nightly
news everywhere on the planet - except the USA - only
because America?s news networks simply refused to
cover this evidence of the electoral coup d?etat that
chose our President in 2004.

Here?s how caging worked, and along with Griffin?s
thoughtful emails themselves you?ll understand it all
in no time.

The Bush-Cheney operatives sent hundreds of thousands
of letters marked ?Do not forward? to voters? homes.
Letters returned (?caged?) were used as evidence to
block these voters? right to cast a ballot on grounds
they were registered at phony addresses. Who were the
evil fakers? Homeless men, students on vacation and ?
you got to love this ? American soldiers. Oh yeah:
most of them are Black voters.

Why weren?t these African-American voters home when
the Republican letters arrived? The homeless men were
on park benches, the students were on vacation ? and
the soldiers were overseas. Go to Baghdad, lose your
vote. Mission Accomplished.

How do I know? I have the caging lists


I have them because they are attached to the emails
Rove insists can?t be found. I have the emails. 500 of
them ? sent to our team at BBC after the Rove-bots
accidentally sent them to a web domain owned by our
friend John Wooden.

Here?s what you need to know ? and the Committee would
have discovered, if only they?d asked:

1. ?Caging? voters is a crime, a go-to-jail felony.

2. Griffin wasn?t ?involved? in the caging, Ms.
Goodling. Griffin, Rove?s right-hand man (right-hand
claw), was directing the illegal purge and challenge
campaign. How do I know? It?s in the email I got.
Thanks. And it?s posted below.

3. On December 7, 2006, the ragin?, cagin? Griffin was
named, on Rove?s personal demand, US Attorney for
Arkansas. Perpetrator became prosecutor.

The committee was perplexed about Monica?s panicked
admission and accusations about the caging list
because the US press never covered it. That?s because,
as Griffin wrote to Goodling in yet another email
(dated February 6 of this year, and also posted
below), their caging operation only made the news on
BBC London: busted open, Griffin bitched, by that
?British reporter,? Greg Palast.

There?s no pride in this. Our BBC team broke the story
at the top of the nightly news everywhere on the
planet ? except the USA ? only because America?s news
networks simply refused to cover this evidence of the
electoral coup d?etat that chose our President in
2004.

And now, not bothering to understand the astonishing
revelation in Goodling?s confessional, they are
missing the real story behind the firing of the US
attorneys. It?s not about removing prosecutors
disloyal to Bush, it?s about replacing those who
refused to aid the theft of the vote in 2004 with
those prepared to burgle it again in 2008.

Now that they have the keys, let?s see if they can put
them in the right door. The clock is ticking ladies
and gents



***************
Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times
bestseller, Armed Madhouse: From Baghdad to New
Orleans - Sordid Secrets and Strange Tales of a White
House Gone WILD. For more info, or to hear Brad
Friedman, Ed Asner and other troublemakers read from
Armed Madhouse, go to www.GregPalast.com


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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 24 22:53:55 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 22:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BLESSED UNREST: A Moment of Inspiration
Message-ID: <238885.37261.qm@web52201.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well worth reading!!! Starts slowly (you could safely
skip on down a number of paragraphs), but really comes
to an extremely important point that I entirely agree
with!  Help is on the way!

The Green way will overcome!

Drew
____________________

This was sent to Denise's list by Linda Piera-Avila. 
I finally got around to reading it....and just in time
for the GA, already darkened by hovering storm clouds.
 

Genevieve Marcus

HAWKEN - excerpt from BLESSED UNREST:

I HAVE GIVEN NEARLY ONE THOUSAND TALKS ABOUT the
environment in the past fifteen years, and after every
speech a smaller crowd gathered to talk, ask
questions, and exchange business cards. The people
offering their cards were working on the most salient
issues of our day: climate change, poverty,
deforestation, peace, water, hunger, conservation,
human rights, and more. They were from the nonprofit
and nongovernmental world, also known as civil
society. They looked after rivers and bays, educated
consumers about sustainable agriculture, retrofitted
houses with solar panels, lobbied state legislatures
about pollution, fought against corporate-weighted
trade policies, worked to green inner cities, or
taught children about the environment. Quite simply,
they were trying to safeguard nature and ensure
justice.

After being on the road for a week or two, I would
return with a couple hundred cards stuffed into
various pockets. I would lay them out on the table in
my kitchen, read the names, look at the logos,
envisage the missions, and marvel at what groups do on
behalf of others. Later, I would put them into drawers
or paper bags, keepsakes of the journey. I couldn't
throw them away.

Over the years the cards mounted into the thousands,
and whenever I glanced at the bags in my closet, I
kept coming back to one question: did anyone know how
many groups there were? At first, this was a matter of
curiosity, but it slowly grew into a hunch that
something larger was afoot, a significant social
movement that was eluding the radar of mainstream
culture.

I began to count. I looked at government records for
different countries and, using various methods to
approximate the number of environmental and social
justice groups from tax census data, I initially
estimated that there were thirty thousand
environmental organizations strung around the globe;
when I added social justice and indigenous
organizations, the number exceeded one hundred
thousand. I then researched past social movements to
see if there were any equal in scale and scope, but I
couldn't find anything. The more I probed, the more I
unearthed, and the numbers continued to climb. In
trying to pick up a stone, I found the exposed tip of
a geological formation. I discovered lists, indexes,
and small databases specific to certain sectors or
geographic areas, but no set of data came close to
describing the movement's breadth. Extrapolating from
the records being accessed, I realized that the
initial estimate of a hundred thousand organizations
was off by at least a factor of ten. I now believe
there are over one million organizations working
toward ecological sustainability and social justice.
Maybe two.

By conventional definition, this is not a movement.
Movements have leaders and ideologies. You join
movements, study tracts, and identify yourself with a
group. You read the biography of the founder(s) or
listen to them perorate on tape or in person.
Movements have followers, but this movement doesn't
work that way. It is dispersed, inchoate, and fiercely
independent. There is no manifesto or doctrine, no
authority to check with.

I sought a name for it, but there isn't one.

Historically, social movements have arisen primarily
because of injustice, inequalities, and corruption.
Those woes remain legion, but a new condition exists
that has no precedent: the planet has a
life-threatening disease that is marked by massive
ecological degradation and rapid climate change. It
crossed my mind that perhaps I was seeing something
organic, if not biologic. Rather than a movement in
the conventional sense, is it a collective response to
threat? Is it splintered for reasons that are innate
to its purpose? Or is it simply disorganized? More
questions followed. How does it function? How fast is
it growing? How is it connected? Why is it largely
ignored?

After spending years researching this phenomenon,
including creating with my colleagues a global
database of these organizations, I have come to these
conclusions: this is the largest social movement in
all of history, no one knows its scope, and how it
functions is more mysterious than what meets the eye.

What does meet the eye is compelling: tens of millions
of ordinary and not-so-ordinary people willing to
confront despair, power, and incalculable odds in
order to restore some semblance of grace, justice, and
beauty to this world.

The movement can't be divided because it is
atomized-small pieces loosely joined. It forms,
gathers, and dissipates quickly. Many inside and out
dismiss it as powerless, but it has been known to
bring down governments, companies, and leaders through
witnessing, informing, and massing.

The movement has three basic roots: the environmental
and social justice movements, and indigenous cultures'
resistance to globalization-all of which are
intertwining. It arises spontaneously from different
economic sectors, cultures, regions, and cohorts,
resulting in a global, classless, diverse, and
embedded movement, spreading worldwide without
exception. In a world grown too complex for
constrictive ideologies, the very word movement may be
too small, for it is the largest coming together of
citizens in history.

There are research institutes, community development
agencies, village- and citizen-based organizations,
corporations, networks, faith-based groups, trusts,
and foundations. They defend against corrupt politics
and climate change, corporate predation and the death
of the oceans, governmental indifference and pandemic
poverty, industrial forestry and farming, depletion of
soil and water.

Describing the breadth of the movement is like trying
to hold the ocean in your hand. It is that large. When
a part rises above the waterline, the iceberg beneath
usually remains unseen. When Wangari Maathai won the
Nobel Peace Prize, the wire service stories didn't
mention the network of six thousand different women's
groups in Africa planting trees. When we hear about a
chemical spill in a river, it is never mentioned that
more than four thousand organizations in North America
have adopted a river, creek, or stream. We read that
organic agriculture is the fastest-growing sector of
farming in America, Japan, Mexico, and Europe, but no
connection is made to the more than three thousand
organizations that educate farmers, customers, and
legislators about sustainable agriculture.

This is the first time in history that a large social
movement is not bound together by an ???ism.??? What
binds it together is ideas, not ideologies. This
unnamed movement's big contribution is the absence of
one big idea; in its stead it offers thousands of
practical and useful ideas. In place of isms are
processes, concerns, and compassion. The movement
demonstrates a pliable, resonant, and generous side of
humanity.

And it is impossible to pin down. Generalities are
largely inaccurate. It is nonviolent, and grassroots;
it has no bombs, armies, or helicopters. A charismatic
male vertebrate is not in charge. The movement does
not agree on everything nor will it ever, because that
would be an ideology. But it shares a basic set of
fundamental understandings about the Earth, how it
functions, and the necessity of fairness and equity
for all people partaking of the planet's life-giving
systems.

The promise of this unnamed movement is to offer
solutions to what appear to be insoluble dilemmas:
poverty, global climate change, terrorism, ecological
degradation, polarization of income, loss of culture.
It is not burdened with a syndrome of trying to save
the world; it is trying to remake the world.

THERE IS FIERCENESS HERE. There is no other
explanation for the raw courage and heart seen over
and again in the people who march, speak, create,
resist, and build. It is the fierceness of what it
means to know we are human and want to survive.

This movement is relentless and unafraid. It cannot be
mollified, pacified, or suppressed. There can be no
Berlin Wall moment, no treaty-signing, no morning to
awaken when the superpowers agree to stand down. The
movement will continue to take myriad forms. It will
not rest. There will be no Marx, Alexander, or
Kennedy. No book can explain it, no person can
represent it, no words can encompass it, because the
movement is the breathing, sentient testament of the
living world.

And I believe it will prevail. I don't mean defeat,
conquer, or cause harm to someone else. And I don't
tender the claim in an oracular sense. I mean the
thinking that informs the movement's goal-to create a
just society conducive to life on Earth-will reign. It
will soon suffuse and permeate most institutions. But
before then, it will change a sufficient number of
people so as to begin the reversal of centuries of
frenzied self-destruction.

Inspiration is not garnered from litanies of what is
flawed; it resides in humanity's willingness to
restore, redress, reform, recover, reimagine, and
reconsider. Healing the wounds of the Earth and its
people does not require saintliness or a political
party. It is not a liberal or conservative activity.
It is a sacred act.

Learn more at paulhawken.com and at wiserearth.org
**********************

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 07:42:00 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:42:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] VTA Service Change Brochure converted to plain
	text
Message-ID: <731685.25585.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

VTA COA Home:
http://www.vta.org/coa/

Route Info by Route:
http://www.vta.org/coa/coa_route_info.html

Service Brochure (plain text version below):
http://www.vta.org/coa/pdfs/coa_service_change_brochure.pdf

COMPREHENSIVE OPERATIONS ANALYSIS (COA)PUBLIC MEETINGS
If you wish to provide written comments regarding the
COA, please e-mail them to coa at vta.org or mail them
to: VTA Marketing and Public Affairs, 3331 North First
Street, Building B, San Jose, CA 95134 

What is a Comprehensive Operations Analysis (COA)?  

The COA is an effort to analyze VTA?s existing transit
services, identify underserved markets and ultimately
restructure and improve VTA?s bus transit services
based on the findings of the COA. Phase One of a new
Service Operating Plan is scheduled to be implemented
in January 2008. 

Why is VTA undertaking a COA? 

VTA?s existing bus service structure has been in 
place since the 1980?s. Although the system has gone
through significant expansions and  reductions in
recent years, there has not been a comprehensive
effort to analyze overall system performance and
better understand the market conditions for transit in
Santa Clara County. The COA recommendations will
therefore address  system inefficiencies and identify
market opportunities for improvements in transit
service.  

The goal of the service adjustments is enhanced
service efficiencies and customer convenience
resulting in increased ridership. 

How will the COA effect VTA riders? 

Most VTA bus routes will be effected. For the 
majority of VTA bus riders, the changes will result in
more frequent and faster service, particularly during
off-peak hours and weekends.  

When the new Service Operating Plan is implemented,
bus service will be enhanced on lines with the
potential for increased ridership, while service on
under-performing lines with poor ridership will be
candidates for consolidation into other lines or
deletion.  

Despite the many changes, the overall level of bus
service systemwide provided by VTA will remain the
same. The changes are being proposed to increase
ridership and the agency?s farebox recovery ratio.   

How can I get more information or comment on the plan?
 
? Complete information on changes to individual routes
will be posted on www.vta.org. An on-line comment form
will also be available. 

If you wish to provide written comments regarding the
COA, please e-mail them to coa at vta.org or mail them
to: VTA Marketing and Public Affairs, 3331 North First
Street, Building B, San Jose, CA 95134 

? For more information on the Comprehensive
Operational Analysis, or the meetings, please visit:
www.vta.org. 

? A series of public meetings are being held
throughout Santa Clara County. VTA riders and the
general public are invited to attend and comment.   

(SKIPPING ONES THAT ALREADY TOOK PLACE, THERE ARE TWO
REMAINING)
Thursday, May 31, 3 p.m. & 6 p.m.   
Campbell Community Center   
Activity Room  
1 West Campbell Avenue   
Campbell, CA 95008   
Transit Service: VTA Bus Lines 26 and 60   

Tuesday, June 5, 3 p.m. & 6 p.m.   
San Jose City Hall, W-119   
200 E. Santa Clara Street   
San Jose, CA 95113   
Transit Service: VTA Bus Lines 22, 63, 64, 65, 72, 73,
81 and 522 

ADA and language accommodations: To receive an
accessible format version of this brochure or if you
require an interpreter, including sign language
services, or other accommodations at the public
meetings, please contact VTA Customer Service five
days prior to the meeting date(s) at (408)321-2300,
hearing impaired TDD  only at (408)321-2330. List of
route changes. If a line is not listed here, no
routing changes are proposed. 

Line 10 - The routing would be modified to operate on
Coleman and Airport Boulevard. It would no longer
serve De La Cruz or the employee parking lots at the
airport.   

Line 11 - This new line would operate from the new 
San Jose Market Center on Coleman to 17th & Hedding
via Coleman, Market, Santa Clara Street, 6th/7th,
Empire and 13th/17th to Hedding.   

Line 13 - The routing would be modified to operate  on
McAbee and Camden instead of Almaden Expressway.  

Lines 14, 15, 17, 18 and 19 will undergo significant
restructuring in July 2007 as a part of the Community
Bus Shuttle Program. Public outreach meetings were
conducted earlier this year to develop these changes. 
Please visit www.vta.org for more information on these
routes. 

Line 22 - Service to Menlo Park would be discontinued
? all buses would start and end at the Palo Alto 
Transit Center. 

Line 23 - The routing would be modified to operate 
from De Anza College to the Alum Rock Transit Center
via Stevens Creek/San Carlos, 1st/2nd, Santa Clara
Street and Alum Rock. Service between downtown San
Jose and Alum Rock & King would be coordinated with
Line 22. The segment between De Anza College and
Foothill College would be discontinued. Service
between Foothill College and the San Antonio Transit
Center would be replaced by a modified Line 52.  

Line 25 - Service to East Hills and Meadow would be
discontinued - all buses would remain on Story, White
and Alum Rock. More frequent service would  be
provided between the Alum Rock Transit Center and
Valley Medical Center seven days a week. 

Line 26 - Extra service would be provided between 
Eastridge and the Curtner LRT Station all day on 
weekdays. The weekday service to Wolfe & Arques  and
the weekend service to downtown Sunnyvale would be
discontinued. 

Line 27 - The routing would be modified to terminate 
at Good Samaritan Hospital. This line would no longer 
serve downtown Los Gatos, Monte Sereno, Saratoga or 
West Valley College.  

Line 31 - The routing would be modified to operate 
between Eastridge and Evergreen Valley College. It 
would no longer serve The Villages or Capitol Avenue 
and Capitol Expressway towards McKee.  

Line 32 - Between Middlefield & Ellis and the 
Sunnyvale Transit Center, this line would operate via 
Middlefield, Central Expressway and Mathilda. Between
Monroe & Bowers and the Santa Clara Transit Center,
the route would remain on Monroe to El Camino, then
head straight to the Santa Clara Transit Center. 

Line 33 - This line would only operate between Great 
Mall and McCarthy Ranch using the current routing. 
Service along Zanker and to 1st & Tasman would be 
discontinued. 

Line 34 - This line would only operate between the 
San Antonio Transit Center and downtown Mountain View.
Service along Sylvan and Grant to El Camino Hospital
would be discontinued.   

Line 35 - The line would operate between the Palo Alto
Transit Center and downtown Mountain View. Service to
Stanford Shopping Center and the loop on Middlefield,
Whisman and Ellis in Mountain View would be
discontinued. 

Line 42 - This new line would incorporate the former 
Line 72 routing between Monterey & Senter and the 
Santa Teresa LRT Station including the East Branham 
and Ford/Silverleaf areas. 

Line 43 - This new line would only operate between 
Eastridge and the Alum Rock Transit Center via Capitol
Expressway during weekday evenings, Saturday evenings
and Sundays when Line 522 is not operating.  

Line 45 - This new line would operate the former Line
64 routing between the Alum Rock Transit Center and
the Penitencia Creek Transit Center.   

Line 47 - The routing would be modified near Milpitas 
High School so that it operates a loop on Arizona 
instead of Milpitas Blvd. 

Line 51 - The routing would be modified to operate 
between Akron & McCord in Moffett Field to El Camino 
Hospital, with selected trip extensions to Truman & 
Bryant for school start and dismissal times. The
routing between El Camino Hospital and Vallco Fashion
Park would be discontinued, as well as weekday peak
hour service to Parsons & Allen at NASA/Ames. 

Line 52 - The routing would be modified to operate on
Castro, California, through the San Antonio Transit 
Center on Showers, San Antonio and El Monte to 
Foothill College. Service along El Camino, as well as 
 El Monte between El Camino and Foothill Expressway, 
would be discontinued. On Sundays, the route would 
operate between downtown Mountain View and downtown
Los Altos.    

Line 53 - The peak hour routing between De Anza 
College and Westgate would be discontinued. 

Line 54 - The routing would be modified to operate 
between De Anza College and the Lockheed Martin 
Transit Center. The segment south of De Anza College  
to West Valley College would be discontinued. Service 
through Garner, Bradford and Persian to Fair Oaks & 
Tasman, as well as weekday peak hour service on Java, 
would be discontinued.    

Line 55 - More frequent weekday peak hour service 
would be provided between Great America and Fremont &
Sunnyvale-Saratoga. Service would no longer be
provided to Sandia, Fairwood and Palamos on selected
trips.  

Line 57 - Trips would alternate between Saratoga 
Avenue and Quito/Allendale between Westgate and  West
Valley College to replace Line 58.   

Line 60 - All trips would terminate at the Winchester
Transit Center and no longer operate to Winchester &
Knowles. More frequent service  would be provided
between Winchester Transit Center and the Santa Clara
Transit Center all day on weekdays. 

Lines 61 & 62 - Both of these lines would operate 
between Good Samaritan Hospital and Sierra & Piedmont,
sharing the same routing between Bascom & Union and
Civic Center. 

Line 61  would operate on Bascom, Naglee, 1st,
Hedding,  4th, Taylor, Mabury, Capitol (serving the 
Penitencia Creek Transit Center), Berryessa and
Piedmont to Sierra. Much of the routing east of Civic
Center replaces former Line 36 and Line 59 service. 

Line 62 would operate on Union, Bascom, Naglee, 1st,
Hedding, Berryessa, Capitol and Sierra to Piedmont.
Service would no longer be provided on Coleman or on
Hedding between  Coleman and 1st. 

Line 63 - The routing would be modified to operate  on
Meridian and Coleman to the Almaden LRT Station.
Service would no longer be provided to Almaden &
Camden or to Almaden & Via Valiente.   

Line 64 - The routing would be modified to operate
between Almaden LRT Station and McKee & White. The
route would remain the same between Almaden and the
San Jose Diridon Station, at which point it would
operate on Cahill, San Fernando and the former 

Line 81 routing through downtown San Jose out to
McKee. Buses would turn around via McKee, Francis,
Patt and  White instead of making a large one-way loop
as  Line 81 does today. More frequent weekday and 
Saturday service would be provided between McKee &
White and the San Jose Diridon Station. 

Line 65 - The routing would be modified to operate
between the Fruitdale LRT Station and Camden &
Branham.  

Line 66 - The routing would be modified south of 
Monterey & Senter to operate the former Line 68 
routing on Monterey, Cottle and Santa Teresa to Santa
Teresa Hospital. More frequent weekday midday service
would be provided between Milpitas and downtown San
Jose.  

Line 68 - The routing would be modified between the
Santa Teresa LRT Station and Monterey & Senter to
operate the former Line 66 routing on Santa Teresa,
Snell and Skyway. More frequent weekday peak hour
service will be provided between the San Jose Diridon
Station  and the Santa Teresa LRT Station. Please
visit  www.vta.org for more information on this route.
    

Line 70 - The routing would remain on Adrian in both
directions between Alfred and Ocala. 

Line 72 - The line would remain the same between
downtown San Jose and Monterey & Senter, and buses
would turn around at Monterey & Branham. Former Line
72 routing south of  Monterey & Senter would be
provided by the new Line 42. 

Line 77 - Weekday peak hour service between the Great
Mall and Milpitas & Calaveras would be discontinued.  

Line 81 - The routing would be modified to operate
between Vallco Fashion Park and San Jose State
University (7th & Santa Clara).  Between Park &
Meridian and downtown San Jose the route would operate
on Meridian, San Carlos, Almaden Blvd, San Fernando
and turn  around via 6th, Santa Clara and 7th. Service
 would no longer be provided on Park between Meridian
and Almaden Blvd. Former Line 81 service from downtown
San Jose to McKee & White would be incorporated into
Line 64. 

Line 82 - The routing would be modified to operate
between Westgate and the Bassett Terminal in downtown
San Jose. Service along 7th Street would be
discontinued, and some of the former Line 82 service
north of downtown San Jose would be provided by Line
11.     

Line 88 - The routing would be modified to operate
between the California Avenue Caltrain Station and the
San Antonio Transit Center via California, Hanover,
Miranda (serving the  Veteran?s Hospital), Arastradero
and El Camino. Service on Charleston, Louis,
Embarcadero, Channing and Lytton to the Palo Alto
Transit Center would be discontinued, as well as
weekday peak hour service to Hillview & Arastradero. 

Express Line 103 - The service to Fruitdale & 
Southwest Expressway would be discontinued, and a stop
would be added at Vallco Fashion Park to replace 
Express 101 service.  

Express Line 120 - The routing would be modified to 
operate on Stevenson, Hwys. 880 and 237, Great
America,  Tasman, Lawrence, Caribbean, Crossman, Java
and  Mathilda to the Lockheed Martin Transit Center. 

Express Line 121 - Selected a.m. and p.m. trips would 
bypass Great America and remain on Hwy. 101.   

Express Line 168 - This new express route would 
operate between Gilroy, San Martin and Morgan Hill  to
downtown San Jose. The route would operate on 
Monterey between Gilroy and Morgan Hill, then on Hwys.
101, 85 and 87 to San Carlos, 1st/2nd, and Santa Clara
Street to the San Jose Diridon Station. 

Express Line 180 - During weekday peak hours, the 
route would only operate between Fremont BART  and
Great Mall. During weekday midday hours and weekends,
this line would operate the full route from Fremont
BART to the Diridon Station. Buses would no longer
stop along Mission Blvd. or at 1st & Younger. 

Express Line 181 - This new line would operate during
weekday peak hours only between Fremont BART and the
San Jose Diridon Station. The route would operate via
Stevenson, Hwy. 880, 1st & 2nd  Streets, and San
Fernando to San Jose Diridon Station.  

Limited Stop 304 - The routing would be modified to
operate between downtown San Jose and the Sunnyvale
Transit Center. From downtown San Jose, the route
would operate on 1st/2nd, Market, Coleman, De La Cruz,
Central Expressway, Scott, Arques, Central Expressway
to Mathilda and the Sunnyvale Transit Center. This
line would no longer continue to Mountain View.  

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 07:43:32 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:43:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bus Service to Mountain Communities Ending
Message-ID: <143367.46247.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://losgatosobserver.com/los-gatos/Article.php?article_id=0357
Bus Service to Mountain Communities Ending
VTA holds public meetings to discuss
By Alastair Dallas 05/24/07 12:40 pm

Route 76, bus service from Los Gatos to Summit Rd.,
serving the communities of Loma Prieta, Chemeketa
Park, and Redwood Estates, is slated to be
discontinued. A public meeting will be held in
Campbell 5/31 and San Jose 6/5.

The discontinuation of Route 76 comes as a result of a
Comprehensive Operations Analysis (COA) undertaken by
the Valley Transportation Authority. Many other
changes are planned, including improving service
frequency on some routes. The proposed county-wide
service map shows no service whatsoever to mountain
communities south of Los Gatos, however.


The VTA began a series of 10 local meetings this week,
and will meet in at the Campbell Community Center
Activity Room, 1 W. Campbell Ave., on 5/31 at 3 p.m.
and 6 p.m.. The final public meeting will be held 6/5
at San Jose City Hall, Rm. W-119, also at 3 and 6.

Phase I of the COA plan is not scheduled to be
implemented before January 2008, but there was no
immediate word on when Route 76 would cease.



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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 07:46:52 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:46:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Residents excoriate bus officials: Proposed
	changes to VTA Route 88 draw fire
Message-ID: <630997.63982.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

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http://www.paloaltodailynews.com/article/2007-5-24-05-24-07-pa-vta-routes
Thursday May 24

Residents excoriate bus officials

Proposed changes to VTA Route 88 draw fire

By Kristina Peterson / Daily News Staff Writer
An overflowing room of angry Palo Alto bus riders
berated Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority
officials Wednesday afternoon over a series of
proposed bus changes.

The most contentious among them were to the 88 bus
route, which serves Gunn High School and the Veterans
Affairs Health Care System, among other spots.

The authority no longer wants to compete with the city
of Palo Alto's free shuttle, which serves the same
neighborhood surrounding the high school and the area
between the California Avenue Caltrain station and the
hospital. The proposed changes fall under its
Comprehensive Operations Analysis, a plan to shift
resources to more popular service areas.

"We frankly feel there is competition between the free
shuttle and our bus," said Kevin Connolly, VTA
transportation planning manager.

But Nik Kaestner, a consultant for the Palo Alto
Unified School District who formerly worked at Gunn,
said both the shuttle and 88 bus are always packed and
follow different routes.

"One is not a replacement for the other," he said.
"It's not a rational solution."

Gunn sophomore Monica Datta said she takes the 88 bus
every day to and from school.

"If they take it away, it basically cuts off all
options for me," she said.

And she would not be alone.

According to a 2004 survey, 8 percent of Gunn's
population, or 144 students, took the 88 bus to
school, said Michelle Rosengaus, who works with
Kaestner.

But VTA officials say they've seen a decline in
ridership since the free shuttle began service.

"We are an outlet for (the shuttle's) capacity,"
Connolly said.

Other proposed changes include discontinuing the 22
bus service between Palo Alto and Menlo Park and the
35 bus service to Stanford Shopping Center.

But the raucous crowd of more than 100 residents
hardly touched on those changes, focusing instead on
the disruption to the 88 line.

"We think it's a crazy time to reduce bus service in
South Palo Alto because we're getting flooded with new
housing," resident Jean Olmsted said.

Roughly 967 new housing units and 220,000 square feet
of commercial and community space have been proposed
for the 88 bus service area, said Penny Ellson,
chairwoman of the Greenmeadow Community Association's
Civic Affairs Committee.

"Environmental impact reports for the largest of these
projects cited the VTA 88 as traffic mitigations for
their projects," Ellson said, citing the new Jewish
community center and former Hyatt Rickey's site, among
other developments.

Others in the crowd, comprised mostly of senior
citizens, said they could not imagine cuts to the 88
bus service.

"I maybe take the bus four times per month, but I
always know it's there," Mary Ann Michel said.

Connolly emphasized that the proposed changes are part
of a rough draft that may be modified according to
community input.

"We don't pretend this is the final route," he said. A
final report will go to the VTA board Aug. 30 and
officials expect the first phase of route changes to
take effect in January.


E-mail Kristina Peterson at kpeterson at dailynewsgroup.com.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 07:50:10 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:50:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Milpitas BART station designed as vaulted glass,
	steel
Message-ID: <245446.66328.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.themilpitaspost.com/local/ci_5856077
BART station designed as vaulted glass, steel
Milpitas Post On-line
by Ian Bauer
Article Launched: 05/09/2007 03:20:47 PM PDT
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site93/2007/0510/20070509__local07_VIEWER.jpg

The so-called "Great Vault of Milpitas" received its
initial endorsement from city officials last week.

Milpitas City Council May 1 unanimously approved the
conceptual architectural design of Milpitas' Bay Area
Rapid Transit station an expansive, vaulted glass and
steel structure set to cover a below-grade station
near Montague Expressway and Capitol Avenue, south of
GreatMall.

City council's vote over the preferred Milpitas BART
station design paves the way for Santa Clara Valley
Transportation Authority's own adoption of preliminary
engineering plans for rapid transit in the South Bay.

Those initial plans, which include planned BART
stations in Milpitas, San Jose and Santa Clara, are
expected to be adopted at the June 7 VTA Board of
Directors meeting.

City staff, VTA representatives and the BART station's
architect presented station plans to the city council.

Because of its large size, Milpitas BART station
architect Eli Naor offered the station's unofficial
name.

"We have now started calling it affectionately the
"Great Vault of Milpitas,'" Naor told council members.
"It is something very much designed in recognition of
transit; the great vaulted train stations that you see
in Europe."

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recognizable" open public space.

Milpitas' transit station, he added, would be the
first stop on the extension into Santa Clara County.
He said the station would support up to 30,000
passengers daily.

"This is not only a landmark in the region relative to
transportation, but it's also an important amenity and
potentially a strong economic driver," Naor said.

Milpitas' BART station is planned as a partially
underground station built in a "retained cut."

However, the station's final size, and its layout
along Montague Expressway, have not been finalized.

As proposed, the station may have two side platforms
for riders to wait for trains. There was some
discussion over the merits of a center platform for
riders.

But VTA officials stated the retained-cut option would
present "engineering challenges" that forced the use
of side platforms.

The city council requested further study of a center
platform option.

The exterior design of Milpitas BART station, however,
drew the strongest attention from council members, in
particular Mayor Jose Esteves.

"That design...(in) my impression and my first look is
this is a bigger version of a Safeway building at
Ocean Market (Safeway's former site in Milpitas), or
(Safeways) I saw in San Francisco," Esteves said.

He added the station's design should provide a lot of
difference from any Safeway.

"Because it really resembles a (Safeway)," the mayor
said. "That's the smaller scale, this could be a
bigger scale."

Later, echoing the mayor's comments, Councilman
Armando Gomez said he wanted to make sure that
Milpitas "wasn't getting the short end of the stick in
terms of design."

With regard to other rapid transit stations planned
for the county, Gomez urged city staff to make sure
Milpitas' station would have "a lot of the nicer
elements" in its design.

Felix Reliford, interim Milpitas planning director,
told council members that the station was "above and
beyond" other stations in terms of design.

"It's appealing. It invites people to come in. It's
attractive," Reliford said. "...We think it fits the
character of Milpitas...and it fits pretty well into
the proposed (Milpitas Transit Plan.)"

Reliford added the station would incorporate trees,
landscaping and a plaza area.

Architect Naor also reassured the council that
Milpitas' station was unique. And he added its design
was not based on any supermarket chain.

"First of all let me just mention architecture is a
hazardous trade, and when people call one of our
stations (a) Safeway it's one of those direct
daggers...," Naor said.

He added, "I can tell you that this is the station of
the highest quality...at local...and international
standards of design."

Naor said the station's high vaulted glass ceiling
would be different from other BART stations planned
for Santa Clara County.

"The sense of space is something that you won't have
at any of the other stations," he said, adding the
large amount of glass covering the station could be
used to display public artwork.

Councilwoman Althea Polanski was less concerned about
the station's design, and more concerned about whether
VTA would actually build BART here.

"I know that BART and VTA (are) having financial
difficulties," she said. "I don't have this confidence
that we're going to see all of these stations,
especially in my lifetime..."

She added what kind of reassurance could VTA give to
Milpitas residents that BART would arrive.

Marian Lee-Skowronek, VTA's principal transportation
planner, responded by saying that funds were still
being sought by the transit agency.

"We have 80 percent of the capital funding for the
project. We are still working on getting (a Federal
Transportation Administration) grant for $750
million," Lee-Skowronek said.

She added VTA would have a better idea of the
project's funding situation by mid-2008.

"We continue to have a (funding) shortfall on the
operations and maintenance of the project,"
Lee-Skowronek said. "VTA is currently trying to figure
out how to find the funding for not just the BART
project, but for all of the projects in Measure A."

In a separate, but related May 1 city council item,
the council also reviewed the configuration of the
Montague/Capitol BART station.

Under that item, Vice Mayor Bob Livengood was critical
of VTA's proposal to add a second parking structure on
the north side of Montague Expressway near GreatMall,
an element that was not in previous design plans.

In part, Livengood suggested a proposed north side
parking structure could eliminate high-density
residential buildings initially planned for the area.

In addition, Livengood said it would be difficult for
people to gain direct access from a proposed south
side parking structure and BART station to the
GreatMall, even though a pedestrian overcrossing is
planned for Montague Expressway near Piper Drive.

In response, Lee-Skowronek told council members that
the north parking structure was added due to a
projected increase in ridership over 20 years.

But Livengood said a second parking structure would
add to project costs.

"It seems to me that you can build that pedestrian
overcrossing without building that new parking
structure," he said.

Council members were happy about the progress on other
points.

That included elimination of an aerial alignment track
that would not be built in the Milpitas BART station
an element VTA previously indicated would save the
transit agency up to $75 million in construction
costs.

At the end of the meeting, the council unanimously
approved a draft letter to be sent to VTA that stated
several requests City of Milpitas wanted to see
included in its BART station project.

Requests included having the BART project conform to
the city's transit area plan; keeping a pedestrian
overcrossing at Montague near Piper Drive; hold off
putting in a north parking structure; relocate train
tracks on the north side of Montague; and give further
study to center versus side platform options for the
city's retained-cut BART station.

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 07:55:06 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 07:55:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] VTA owes SamTrans $38.7 million for MUNI subway
	station
Message-ID: <740038.29303.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.examiner.com/a-726691~Proposition_1B_transit_funds_may_be_near.html

Proposition 1B transit funds may be near
May 14, 2007 3:00 AM (11 days ago)
by Edward Carpenter, The Examiner

Tentative agreement could free monies for subway

SAN FRANCISCO (Map, News) - A nearly $9 million bill
to Muni for Caltrain?s right-of-way through San
Francisco appears on the verge of coming due.

A tentative agreement has been reached between Muni
and SamTrans (the Peninsula?s bus operator and owner
of the Caltrain right of way) that could settle the
long-outstanding debt and allow Muni to receive $100
million from state Proposition 1B funds for the
construction of its proposed Central Subway.

The agreement was partially brokered by the
Metropolitan Transportation Commission, which holds
the purse strings on local transit infrastructure
funds.

?[Muni and SamTrans] are partners in operating
Caltrain, and this is an area that has stressed the
partnership and we?d like to see it resolved,? MTC
spokesman Randy Rentschler said.
People who read this also read:

    * Commuters sound off about Muni changes
    * Bus line to connect commuters
    * Muni crackdown: Pay fare or pay up to $100 fine
    * Proposition 1B transit funds may be near
    * Muni balances its budget in face of future
deficits

Muni, which said the deal hasn?t been finalized,
declined to comment.

Muni?s $1.2 billion subway from South of Market to
Chinatown is tentatively scheduled to begin operation
in 2016. Another $1 billion in federal funds has
already been identified for the project, according to
Muni chief Nathaniel Ford.

For SamTrans, the $9.2 million couldn?t come at a
better time. Budget estimates released this week show
the Peninsula bus operator facing a $10.5 million
budget gap, according to SamTrans board members and
San Mateo County Supervisor Jerry Hill.

?It certainly will help in the short-term with the
budget imbalance, but it is a short-term measure,?
Hill said.

SamTrans has been forced to dip into reserves and
scramble for one-time funds in recent years as
expenses increasingly outstrip revenues, SamTrans
spokesman Jonah Weinberg said.

SamTrans purchased the Caltrain right of way from San
Francisco to San Jose in December 1991 for a little
more than $200 million using $124 million in state
funds, $43.7 of its own money and $47.9 borrowed on
the part of Muni and the Valley Transit Authority.

Muni and the VTA were expected to repay SamTrans at an
unspecified point in the future, Weinberg said.

?This is a longstanding debt that SamTrans had been
able to shoulder in the past, but we?re getting to the
point of 15 years and SamTrans really needs the money
now,? Weinberg said.

Santa Clara?s Valley Transit still owes SamTrans $38.7
million for the purchase, Weinberg said. Discussions
between SamTrans and VTA are ongoing, officials said.

ecarpenter at examiner.com

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From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 08:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] VTA Gets Unsatisfactory Grades: 7% VTA lines
	carry 50% of VTA passengers. A Metro editorial
Message-ID: <129470.19092.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.metroactive.com/metro/04.25.07/fly-0717.html

April 25-May 1, 2007

Radical Thoughts for Big VTA Problems

Valley Transportation Authority got a bad report card
this month, and they were the kind of grades any
middle-schooler would be terrified to bring home to
Mom and Dad. Unsatisfactory at best was the verdict in
many areas, including cost and efficiency. Sixty-seven
of the 70 bus routes fail to reach the agency's goal
of 33 riders per hour. As of now, 7 percent of the
lines carry 50 percent of VTA passengers. And the
agency has one of the lowest fare-box returns in the
country: only 14 percent of operating costs are
covered by the riders' ticket purchase, about half of
what's needed. But taking a page from the schoolkid
handbook on spinning Report Card Day, VTA acted fast
to demonstrate that there's no reason to take away its
Playstation 3 for a month. New changes that will be
voted on in August and go into effect in 2008 include
consolidating or eliminating two of every seven bus
routes and offering more express buses and smaller,
cheaper vehicles on certain lines. However, one city
employee tells Fly that VTA needs to think way, way
outside the fare box at this point. The biggest
problem, he believes, is that the VTA and
Redevelopment Agency are working from entirely
different agendas: "The hub of all VTA bus routes are
downtown, with so many routes serving it. So
hypothetically one would think this would be a focus
for the powers that be. Who are the primary users?
Those without vehicles. But even though the downtown
developers pay a fee to support affordable housing,
those projects are delegated out of downtown, as the
RDA focus is for upscale clientele." The irony, he
says, is that "the condo buyers are the least likely
to set foot on public transit. They are not making
those Beamer payments so their cars will stay at home
during their workday."

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From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 08:21:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] PDA Cooption by DLC Dems & George Soros
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From:  Howie Hawkins
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:33 AM
Subject: [usgp-media] Re: [usgp-dx] Progressives find
ways to work with the Dem establishment(In These
Times) 

The lack of historical perspective in this article is
appalling. These academics (Heaney, Rojas, and
Domhoff) and talking heads (Flanders) say it is "new"
for progressive movement activists to engage in
electoral politics inside the Democratic Party.

What about the fusionists in the populist movement,
the "non-partisan" wing of the socialist movement, the
labor movement (especially after 1936), and the death
of the civil rights and anti-war movements in
Democratic Party after 1968?

Domhoff has been writing about this strategy in books
since at least 1973.
It's not new.

It's got worse. There was a time during the Rainbow
Coalition when "inside/outside" was coined and meant
running independent candidates when the Democratic
candidate wasn't progressive. In practice, that always
ended up inside, because the activists tended to want
to ingratiate themselves with the Democratic machine
in order to be "players" and supporting independents
would kill that goal.

Now for PDA, "inside/outside" means inside support for
Democratic candidates and outside lobbying of
Democratic officeholders. Pathetic.

Fletcher is a "Maoist" from the Freedom Road Socialist
Organization, which like most ultra-left post-SDS
groups became pedestrian liberals when the 60s
movements receded. They entered the Democrats with the
Jackson campaign in 1984. As one of them (Barry
Weisberg of the Communist Labor Party) who became paid
staff for Harold Washington, then Jesse Jackson, then
Marion Barry told me, "I'm tired of losing." To me,
looking real sharp in his expensive suit, he seemed
very happy to be getting paid very well as a campaign
consultant.

It's a shame that Scott got only one line in this
story. But In These Times, a house organ for
"progressive" Democrats, is "fair and balanced" for
the
Democrats like Fox is "fair and balanced" for the
Republicans.

A note on the funding question: A consortium of
super-rich liberals -- George Soros, Peter Lewis, and
others -- pledged in 2005 to committ $100 million to
the liberal Democratic NGO infrastructure over the
next 15 years. The labor unions spent $8-12 billion on
the Democrats between 1980 and 2004 and plan to spend
even more in the future.

We're not going to get funded on that scale. But with
a few million dollars a year from a few hundred
thousand supporters, I think we could change the
politics of the country. Millions of people are sick
of the Democrats
consistently caving in to the corporate power
structure, like they did again this week on the war
supplemental.

-- Howie Hawkins, Syracuse NY

Subject: Article: Progressives find ways to work with
the Dem establishment(In These Times)
Date:	Thu, 24 May 2007 13:01:01 -0400

George DeCarlo wrote:
Thank you Howie!  In New Jersey we have a member, Bob
Cartwright, who writes such analyses each time
Democratic front pieces and organizations are
presented.  As for Soros mentioned below, I had
written about this huckster even admired by some
Greens for his donations.  They did not think to do
some research and see what the proportion was to his
wealth.

I had written this message in the past for the Soros
admirers (lovers?):

Since there seems to be a fascination within the
progressive community about people such as Soros and
others and how much some of these wealthiest people
have given from their personal funds (theft), below
are some references:

http://www.forbes.com/home/2003/09/17/rich400land.html
	
#28 Soros, George: 7.0 billion 73, Bedford , NY hedge
funds

**  If Soros gave 15.5 million, that is only .0022% of
his personal wealth.  Someone making $30,000 a year
would match this percentage of their wealth by giving
$66.00 as a percentage of their yearly income.  This
is not even enough for a yearly deduction for charity.
 Or, let's say they have personal wealth with a house
completely paid for of $300,000 total.  Then the
mythical person would match Soros' contribution by
giving $660.00.  It seems that Soros needs to give a
little more to impress.

Additionally, Soros and others have ties which do
bind:

http://www.questionsquestions.net/

http://www.questionsquestions.net/gatekeepers.html

--

George DeCarlo, CH 

At 11:00 AM 5/23/2007 -0700, Scott McLarty wrote:
>(The main reason I'm forwarding this article is
>because I have short quote in it that's critical
>of MoveOn, PDA, & the Democratic Party.  But the
>article also shows that Greens need to be, or
>need to get to, the same level of organization &
>fundraising as these groups, or they'll advance
>far ahead of us in effectiveness. -- Scott)
>
>Dancing Into the Majority
>
>Once alienated, grassroots activists are finding
>ways to work with the Democratic Party
>establishment
>
>By Adam Doster
>In These Times, May 23, 2007
>http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3201/dancing_into_the_majority/
>
>
>When Michael Heaney served as a special guest to
>the Brookings Institution?s Governance Studies
>Program in the fall of 2002, he couldn?t ignore
>the growing anxiety surrounding the invasion of
>Iraq. After marching to the White House with a
>local CodePink chapter and attending larger
>rallies in D.C. that year, the budding political
>scientist?now an assistant professor at the
>University of Florida?took an interest in the
>makeup of the antiwar movement. ?I just started
>noticing all of the organizational diversity of
>people there,? he says, ?and I got very
>interested in understanding the differences
>between these organizations, how they mobilize
>people, what they wanted and how they framed
>their arguments.?
>
>This curiosity led him to team up with Indiana
>University sociologist Fabio Rojas, and together
>they coined the term ?Party in the Street? to
>describe a ?set of individuals and organizations
>that are both part of a grassroots social
>movement and that identify and work with a
>political party.?
>
>Their research, to be published in July in
>American Politics Research, found that many
>left-leaning Americans navigate between social
>movements and the Democratic Party. In surveys
>distributed at large rallies and conventions in
>2004 and 2005, Heaney and Rojas discovered that a
>plurality of antiwar activists identified as
>Democrats (40 percent) or articulated some
>willingness to work with or vote for the party
>(39 percent). On the other hand, 20 percent of
>participants identified as members of a third
>party, which implies that they think organizing
>under the Democratic tent is counterproductive.
>>From this data, Heaney and Rojas conclude that
>many social movement activists are beginning to
>embrace the opportunities the Democratic Party
>provides in order to achieve their loftier
>movement goals.
>
>Radio host Laura Flanders, who explores
>grassroots insurgencies across the country in her
>new book Blue Grit: True Democrats Take Back
>Politics from the Politicians (excerpted on page
>18), recognizes this phenomenon as well.
>?Organizations that for years would have defined
>themselves as movement groups that eschewed
>electoral politics and never expected to get
>anything from politicians are deciding to get
>involved,? she says.
>
>
>Swelling the ranks
>
>Numerous factors contribute to the recent surge
>in grassroots political organizing, but popular
>frustration with the Bush administration is
>central. Heaney points to ?a deep dissatisfaction
>with the direction of our country, especially
>with the way President Bush responded to 9/11 and
>the way that the Iraq war [has gone] and all the
>mistakes that were made and lies that were told.?
>The political momentum created by war protesters
>also helps activate people to fight other
>injustices perpetuated by Bush and his Republican
>cohorts, as shown by the immigrant-rights marches
>held in cities across the country.
>
>But it?s not only anger with Bush that is causing
>movement-partisan organizations to expand.
>Lackluster leadership from establishment
>Democrats, many of whom remain timid on economic
>and social issues and hawkish on the war, has
>galvanized disillusioned Democrats and outside
>activists alike to seek another political path.
>
>?We?ve learned from issue after issue, going back
>to the Clinton era and earlier, that electing
>Democrats is just not enough to move our society
>forward,? says Jeff Cohen, founder of Fairness
>and Accuracy In Reporting and a media adviser to
>the Progressive Democrats of America (PDA), a
>progressive political organization and a
>grassroots PAC operating inside the Democratic
>Party. ?You need to elect Democrats with backbone
>and with principles.?
>
>Indeed, more and more progressives who refused to
>support spineless Democrats and instead backed
>unsuccessful third-party candidates have come to
>understand the pragmatic necessity of working
>within the Democratic Party.
>
>In an electoral system based on winning a
>plurality of votes, rather than some form of
>proportional representation, Democrats hold a
>striking advantage over outside challengers. ?In
>a study of the percentage of Socialist or Social
>Democratic party members in national legislatures
>across the world, only South Africa had
>less?zero?than the two who made it to the [U.S.]
>House of Representatives a few times in the first
>quarter of the twentieth century,? G. William
>Domhoff, a sociologist at the University of
>California, Santa Cruz, notes on his website.
>?More leftists were elected to Congress in the
>?30s and early ?40s as Democrats 
 than were ever
>earlier elected as socialists.? The only way for
>progressives to beat Democrats, then, is to join
>them.
>
>
>PDA?s innovative approach
>
>That?s the goal of PDA, perhaps the national
>organization that most closely reflects the model
>posited by Heaney and Rojas. Founded in Roxbury,
>Mass., during the 2004 Democratic National
>Convention?primarily by delegates and activists
>from the campaigns of Howard Dean and Rep. Dennis
>Kucinich (D-Ohio)?PDA is attempting to carve out
>a space for progressives in the Democratic Party.
>
>
>The members of this grassroots association are
>going about that task using a strategy they call
>?Inside/Outside,? meaning PDA runs candidates and
>lobbies members inside the Democratic Party while
>allying themselves outside the electoral arena
>with organizations that work to promote its five
>stated priorities: ending the Iraq war, universal
>health care, fair and clean elections, economic
>justice and environmental sustainability.
>
>?I see Inside/Outside as absolutely essential,?
>says Bill Honigman, PDA?s California state
>coordinator. ?There are going to be times when
>the party needs to be shook up a little, and the
>only way to do that is from the outside. By the
>same token, you can?t do it all from the outside.
>You have to be involved in the party to change
>things when it?s going the wrong way.?
>
>Dean?s influence on PDA?s structure is hard to
>ignore. At the local level, PDA hopes to set up
>individual chapters in all 435 congressional
>districts. This tactic is similar to the ?50
>State Strategy? Dean has employed as DNC
>chairman, which focuses on organizing Democrats
>in every voting precinct at all levels of
>government. So far, PDA National Director Tim
>Carpenter says that the group has established
>chapters in 120 districts, which he describes as
>at least ?five folks coming together, pulling
>papers and meeting at least once a month.? As in
>all substantial bottom-up organizing, their
>progress is slow, as evidenced by the dearth of
>local councils in less populated states like
>Delaware and Wyoming. But residents elsewhere are
>expressing great interest. Florida has 13
>chapters and California now boasts 23 locals
>along with close allies in the state assembly?s
>Progressive Caucus.
>
>PDA also follows the fundraising model of the
>2004 Dean campaign, relying almost entirely on
>sustainer donations that average $22 a month.
>These local chapters are where the action occurs,
>allowing PDA to organize in support of
>congressional actions or in response to
>lackluster representation. ?We?re trying to
>develop the grassroots so that we build up all of
>our communities and not just focus on ones that
>classify as swing districts,? says Honigman.
>
>In many ways, PDA has assumed the role of a party
>within a party by coordinating collective efforts
>of like-minded activists while at the same time
>running or endorsing candidates in certain
>circumstances. However, unlike the national
>Democratic Party, the goal is not nominal
>electoral majorities; PDA aims to transform the
>party into one dominated by progressive
>politicians, not corporate interests.
>
>Through its willingness to apply more public
>forms of pressure like press conferences and
>teach-ins, PDA has earned national recognition.
>It was one of the first groups to publicize the
>infamous Downing Street Memo, which exposed
>another layer of White House deception in the
>run-up to the war, and it rallied activists
>around Ohio?s voting irregularities in 2004.
>Members also pushed in early 2007 for a
>congressional debate on a fully funded withdrawal
>of all troops and military contractors from Iraq.
>
>
>On the inside, PDA was active this past election
>season in various Democratic campaigns, including
>John Hall?s victory in New York?s 19th District.
>The local PDA chapter raised awareness of John
>Hall?s progressivism by organizing events
>throughout northern Westchester County. Hall?s
>press secretary Tom Staudter later credited PDA
>with generating vital momentum. While other
>PDA-endorsed candidates were not as successful,
>such as Christine Cegelis in Illinois? 6th
>District (who lost the Democratic primary by four
>percentage points to Tammy Duckworth, the
>favorite of the party establishment), PDA
>organizers think their local electoral organizing
>is laying the groundwork for sustainable
>influence down the road. ?Chapters were organized
>prior to the campaign,? says Carpenter, ?they
>endorsed that candidate and at the end of that
>race they were stronger and more chapters came
>out of them.?
>
>
>Other movement organizing
>
>PDA is not alone in its efforts. A variety of
>national organizations are simultaneously
>engaging in electoral work and standard movement
>organizing.
>
>One prominent group is CodePink, the feminist
>antiwar group that was founded in 2002. Named
>with the Department of Homeland Security?s
>color-coded alert system in mind, CodePink is
>known for its non-violent direct action
>campaigns. For example, in November 2002,
>CodePink members began a four-month vigil in
>front of the White House to oppose the Iraq
>invasion and have since repeatedly protested at
>high-profile political hearings and fundraisers.
>
>But a focus on local organizing and building
>institutional movements links CodePink with
>groups like PDA. In four years, CodePink has
>established more than 250 local chapters, each of
>which runs autonomous campaigns and actions in
>their own communities while receiving ideas and
>assistance from the national unit. These
>campaigns include lobbying members of Congress
>and coordinating diplomatic visits, such as a
>program that sent a delegation of 15 women to
>Iraq to meet with local women and hear their
>stories.
>
>?There is this Beltway culture,? says Dana
>Balicki, CodePink?s media coordinator. ?And we
>are hammering at it to make sure there?s a real
>element of public discourse.?
>
>Another prime example is the fledging Aurora
>Project, spearheaded by Bill Fletcher, Jr.,
>founder of the Black Radical Congress and a Belle
>Zeller Visiting Professor at Brooklyn College,
>City University of New York. Fletcher looks to
>Jesse Jackson?s campaigns for president in 1984
>and 1988 as models. Jackson and his allies,
>Fletcher says, promoted ?a vision of a non-party
>political organization that could operate inside
>and outside the Democratic Party and had a very
>broad tent within which progressive social
>movements could find a place but where people of
>color did not get lost.? Jackson?s coalition took
>a less democratic shape than originally hoped,
>but for many of those involved, the potential of
>the model remains.
>
>Like PDA, Aurora Project organizers hope to build
>local electoral organizations that are networked
>nationally. However, unlike many other movement
>organizations, issues involving race and gender
>factor prominently into the Aurora Project
>platform.
>
>?Organizations, given the history of the United
>States, do not have the option of taking a pass
>on race if they want to build a majoritarian
>movement,? says Fletcher. ?Attempting to build a
>bloc that avoids it invariably ends up failing or
>stumbling at the minimum.? Last December in
>Washington, D.C., more than 50 experienced
>activists met to discuss strategy at the Aurora
>Project?s founding meeting. Organizers are
>currently traveling around the country talking
>with local leaders about their plans, which,
>according to Fletcher, have been met with
>enthusiasm.
>
>Even MoveOn, an organization whose leadership
>focuses more on national issue advocacy than
>organizing the grassroots, has spawned 200 active
>local chapters through its electoral fieldwork
>and Internet technology. Similar to PDA, these
>autonomous groups hold public educational events
>and participate in national advocacy campaigns
>while fostering relationships with their
>congressional representatives, bridging their
>outside activity with electoral organizing.
>
>?A number of members of Congress have met with
>our [local councils] because it?s clear that
>these are some of the people who are influential
>in the district,? says Eli Pariser, executive
>director of MoveOn. ?It?s very exciting to start
>to see influences in engaged citizens rather than
>the local crew of lobbyists.?
>
>
>The path ahead
>
>The Party in the Street is music to the ears of
>lefty lawmakers, many of whom now hold key
>committee and subcommittee chairmanships but have
>not had an organized, national grassroots arm
>backing their congressional battles for quite
>some time.
>
>Relationships between members of the
>Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) and
>movement-partisan activists are quickly
>developing and provide mutual benefits. For
>example, when a legislator proposes a favorable
>new bill, organizers immediately contact their
>local representatives to seek out co-sponsors.
>And the broad networking ability of these groups
>raises awareness about issues for which
>progressive legislators are fighting. ?I think
>that when they get their membership to start
>sending emails, it puts on the radar screen
>issues that many members might otherwise not be
>thinking of,? says Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.),
>who founded the CPC while a member of the House.
>
>But as Sanders? insistence on running as an
>independent suggests, the Party in the Street
>model presents serious trade-offs for its
>members. ?Their ties to the Democratic Party are
>both their greatest strength and their greatest
>weakness,? says Heaney. While aligning closely
>with Democrats allows for easier recruitment of
>politically socialized members and access to
>Washington leadership, groups can grow
>disconnected from their membership or experience
>co-optation.
>
>Navigating that liminal space could be the
>largest obstacle for the Party in the Street?s
>success. Members of social movements often
>advocate morally principled but legislatively
>impractical causes while Democrats seek sound
>political victories, sometimes undermining
>justice in the name of compromise. As Heaney
>notes, people balancing between the movement and
>the party?which don?t always see eye to eye?are
>in a precarious position. ?There is that force in
>the party which is trying to pull people out of
>the social movement and there is a force in the
>social movement that?s trying to pull people out
>of the party,? says Heaney. ?In a sense, they are
>not two institutions that go together real
>easily.?
>
>This fear was dramatized in March when some in
>the anti-war movement lambasted MoveOn for its
>actions on the Iraq Accountability Act. Polling
>its members, MoveOn asked if the organization
>should back Pelosi?s phased troop withdrawal
>plan, which was up for a congressional vote. In
>doing so, they ignored a bill sponsored by Rep.
>Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), which was never brought
>to the floor for a vote, but that called for
>immediate troop withdrawal. Other anti-war
>groups, such as United for Peace and Justice, and
>Code-Pink, saw this sole focus on Pelosi?s bill
>as a compromised one?one that was more in sync
>with the will of the newly accessible
>Congressional leadership rather than the country
>at large.
>
>?There is a danger that you can be so supportive
>[of Democrats] that you no longer have a balanced
>view of what?s really happening,? Balicki says.
>?If you get too far inside the Beltway, you can
>be sucked right in.?
>
>There?s also a danger of alienating potential
>allies, especially members of third parties who
>are skeptical of Democratic partisan motives.
>?The problem with PDA and MoveOn and others,?
>says Scott McLarty, media coordinator for the
>Green Party of the United States, ?is that by
>focusing on the rehabilitation of the Democratic
>Party, which I think is a hopeless prospect, they
>don?t allow for the possibility of a new kind of
>politics.?
>
>But if members of organizations like PDA can
>master that balancing act, the model could
>succeed in building a progressive majority in the
>United States. One unlikely inspiration could be
>the activists who occupy a similar, albeit more
>established, organizational space on the right.
>Groups like the Christian Coalition have
>cultivated a regimented mass organization focused
>on local organizing that has successfully pushed
>their principal issues to the forefront of the
>GOP agenda while remaining independent of the
>party. To emulate that success, progressives must
>remember that Democratic electoral victories are
>not ends unto themselves; only through a focus on
>sustained, local mobilization and leadership
>development can progressives begin to shift away
>from issues-based pressure groups that have
>dominated left politics since the ?70?s.
>
>Democratic primaries could provide a natural
>arena for the Party in the Street to assert its
>influence. ?By putting your maximum program out
>there and challenging in primaries,? says
>Domhoff, ?you have a chance to reach the general
>public.?
>
>But as Flanders notes, organizations like PDA
>must also ?work outside of its comfort zone.?
>It?s a sentiment shared by Fletcher, who notes ?a
>recurring problem in progressive circles, where
>they come to be dominated by what can best be
>described as white economic populists. But when
>it comes to issues of race and gender, there?s a
>soft peddling in the way of bringing us all
>together.?
>
>Constructing a broader and stronger progressive
>tent includes establishing vibrant chapters in
>communities of color and in historically
>Republican districts, two constituencies often
>taken for granted or ignored by national
>Democrats. Carpenter was enthusiastic about
>inroads PDA has made in ?red districts,? but
>expressed pessimism about progress in heavily
>black or Latino locales, something he says PDA is
>actively addressing through its Diversity Caucus
>and by assembling a racially diverse executive
>board.
>
>The kids can?t be ignored, either. As Heaney and
>Rojas document, the Party in the Street ?is
>composed mainly of the young (18 to 27) and the
>old (46 to 67), with relatively fewer
>participants outside these ranges.? Energetic
>young folks are playing a crucial role
>organizationally and at the polls, meaning that
>special attention should be paid to youth
>recruitment and leadership training.
>
>Perhaps most important, movement-partisans must
>support and run candidates with bold policy
>initiatives that will excite an electorate that?s
>increasingly cynical about government. And
>intra-party debate should be encouraged. As
>MoveOn?s Pariser puts it, ?A diversity of
>opinions is a strength.? But only by formulating
>a strong progressive platform that addresses the
>concerns of middle- and working-class Americans
>can movement-partisans avoid political obscurity
>and shift the Democratic Party to the left.
>
>Groups like PDA cannot yet contend with the
>influence of more established, corporate-friendly
>bodies like the Democratic Leadership Council.
>But if organizers follow the model they have
>devised and remain open to self-criticism, the
>Party in the Street might give a lot of
>progressives reason to dance. ?Every great social
>movement begins in the street,? says Carpenter.
>?But it ultimately ends in the halls of
>Congress.?
>

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 08:23:43 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FWD: S Bay 9-11 Truth Meeting this Sunday
Message-ID: <470869.81602.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Subject:	 [9-11-315] Meetup this Sunday!
Date:	Thu, 24 May 2007 22:10:00 -0400 (EDT)

Just a quick reminder to ask everyone who reads this
to please RSVP for the meetup this Sunday! Even if you
cant make it please RSVP "no" or "maybe" so we can get
an accurate headcount!

I look forward to sitting down with everyone and
sharing our ideas and comments. We can get to know
each other and make big plans for June 11th! Remember
the meetup is at 2pm on Sunday at the Martin Luther
King Jr Library in San Jose. I personally havnt been
there before so I cannot give a great place to meet,
so I will just be right at the front of the library I
guess! After that we can just head to the closest
place to sit inside so others can find us if they are
late. We will then just play it by ear, maybe get some
food after we talk a while I dont know. :o) It will be
casual and Im always up for anything!

Hope to see you there!

**brainphreak** aka Don White (408)506-8063
brainphreak at brainphreak.net

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 08:39:28 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 08:39:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
	Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee
Message-ID: <248848.88890.qm@web52205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Q: Is Green uniTEA yet another faction?

A: No, Green uniTEA is an 'Antifaction'!  In the best
"the pun is mightier than the gun" (Tian Harter's
humor) fashion we will not meet or scheme or organize
in any fashion. :-) We'll just distribute green tea
(uniTEA) at the GA and other green meetings. ;-)  And
work for unity!  Its like a flashmob movement.  Its
just spontaneously forming to bring unity to our
party.

Time to Reboot!

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!

Drew Johnson
Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
vote for CC Reboot!

___________________________

Subject: "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee

We need Green uniTEA my sisters and brothers!  

Just as during the cold war when the U.S. and U.S.S.R.
selfishly treated the world as if their empires were
the only thing that matter.  India arose to lead a
group  of nations to 'Just say no" to the warring
factions, to assert a Nonaligned Movement.  

I think its high time for us to assert our
independence of these two factions and to say to them
"NO! you won't have my endorsement and you destroy my
party!"  Join those of us who refuse to be sucked into
either faction's weak and self-serving justification
for their destructive actions.  We must save our party
from the tunnel vision of these two factions.

This Reboot the CC action will be the first step but
it can not be considered the complete solution.  We
must alter our culture and possibly our bylaws in such
a way whereby we do not allow any group of people to
hijack the party and we do not allow the *service*
organization of the CC to be perverted into an
executive function and become a political football 
grinding us to a halt again.  Together we must
consider how we solve these vexing issues.

We can not stand idly by and allow objectionable
domination behavior by anyone to control our party. 
We must change our culture from one of passive
acceptance of any old crazy behavior from factions or
individuals to a smoothly running self governance
style where we uphold our 10 Key Values and turn them
into the virtues they can be.  As a party if we
actually contribute and add value to people's lives we
will have no problem attracting members!

Reboot the CC first!  Then let's put our heads
together to make our party functional, effective and
progressive leaders.

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!
Drew Johnson
Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
vote for CC Reboot!
________________________________

Subject: "Reboot the CC!" says Green uniTEA Nonaligned
Movement; Proposal for GA from Bylaws Committee

Time to drink Green uniTEA: The Team Earth
Antifaction! ;-)

I speak for the vast majority of Greens that hate that
two factions have brought our party to its knees.  A
pox on both their houses! Yet all of us are to blame
also for letting this insanity drag on and on.  Now we
have an opportunity to wipe the slate clean and start
over.  That's right, what do you do when an electronic
product fails?  Reboot!  Thankfully the Bylaws
Committee has prepared the following proposal for us
to start afresh with the CC.

The CC was always supposed to be a service
organization, not an executive function.  It has
ceased to serve ANY function.  Time to reboot!

Some have said 'why throw out the good apples with the
bad?'.  I say 'good apples??? Which good apples are
those?' - although I love these people as individuals,
as a collective they have utterly failed to serve
their function.  Time to reboot!

As John Morton <jlm108 at yahoo.com> said: "This party
belongs to not to the CC reps, not to the GA
delegates, not even to the 150,000 registered Greens
in CA.  It belongs to the hundreds of thousands, the
millions, who, if given the chance, would agree with
the 10 KV and commit to whatever degree to participate
in their propagation."  Time to reboot!

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!

Drew Johnson
Santa Clara County delegate to the GA preparing to
lobby, consens and if necessary vote for reboot!

TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE

PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)

APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council

BACKGROUND: 
The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of an
ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many hours of
meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
useless due to infighting around "the LA situation,"
meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the CC.
Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
with contested seats has instead increased to 4. The
result is that the CC is no longer able to perform its
main function of planning plenaries.

This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who are
not and have not been involved in the party
infighting, much as a professional committee in the
business world will be reconstituted when unable to do
its work. It is reconstituted with representation more
proportionate to membership, as California has
promoted in the national party.

Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the chaos
around the facilitation procedures for the CC. Using
supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
decisions has resulted in the following situations:

* meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
items even discussed in the interest of
consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of an
agenda

* facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether to
add 5 minutes to an item
* long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted on
discussions of whether to add an item to the agenda,
alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator

* two different voting thresholds applying based
solely on whether the vote itself is taken online or
during a teleconference, allowing proposals to be
subject to manipulations based on voting thresholds.

This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
facilitation procedures are based on two main
premises:
1. The decision-making body has authority over its
agenda.
2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
subtraction of discussion time, are not intended to
involve whole separate consensus processes and stacks
of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations on
the facilitation decision. (Note that the facilitation
rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
either.)

This proposal is a combination of a variety of ideas
for solving the CC's problems that have been brought
forward over recent months. The presenters hope that
adoption of this proposal will finally end the CC's
infighting based on historical animosities and give
the new CC a real opportunity to do its
bylaws-mandated job.

PROPOSAL: 
I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the GPCA
Coordinating Committee (CC)

a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days from
the passage of this proposal.

b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
shall allocate the 16 regional representative seats
proportionally to the Green Party membership in each
region. This calculation shall be performed by the
outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal Proportions
described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.

c. All regions shall announce new elections to fill
the regional representative seats as soon as possible.
Regions must hold open, transparent elections with at
least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as possible
in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
representative vacancies shall be posted to the county
contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
this proposal. Regions without alternate processes may
adopt temporary alternate processes for the purpose of
filling the seats in a timely manner.

d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has claimed
to serve on the CC, as representative or alternate,
over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible to
run for or fill any representative or alternate seat
on the CC for the next 2 years.

e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in order
to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the new
apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
transitional terms would be expected to fall as
follows:

Even-Numbered Years
1 Emerald	January 2008
2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
1 San Francisco	May 2008
1 Silicon	June 2008
1 East Bay	July 2008
3 Los Angeles	November 2008
1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
1 ORSB	November 2008

Odd-Numbered Years
2 At-large	spring GA 2009
2 Central	May 2009
1 North Bay	May 2009
1 East Bay	July 2009
1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
1 Central Coast	August 2009
1 ORSB	November 2009

II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
facilitation shall proceed according to the following
guidelines:

a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the CC
listserv at least one week in advance of a scheduled
meeting.

b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
simple majority threshold for approval. 

c. Changes in announced facilitation require a simple
majority threshold for approval.

d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
approved agenda requires a simple majority approval of
the CC. 

e. Adding a last minute item that was not submitted to
the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires a
2/3 threshold.

f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an item
is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an online
vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as if
the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
advance). If an item goes to an online vote without
being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80% threshold.

g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
majority (over half) decides to extend the call for a
specific amount of time. Decisions must then be made
within the time of the approved extension.

h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
facilitation decisions can be done by asking quickly
for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll call
if approval is unclear.

i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to take
thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
list, amend them according to posted corrections, and
post the final version to both the CC listserv and the
archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
description and hiring criteria for this position.

j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic tasks
that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate this
schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it is
adopted.

TIMELINE: 
Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may take
place starting 2 weeks after passage of this proposal.
Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but may
not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
achieved. 

RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
budgeting funds for this.

___________________

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri May 25 11:06:27 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 11:06:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Iraq Vote: What Happened
Message-ID: <465725A3.3030407@earthlink.net>


Understanding what the Ds did on the vote is apparently
not simple.  Something about the vote is in the rule.
I haven't time to figure it out now.  But apparently
the answer might be in here:

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/25/1447/

and here:

     http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll418.xml

Note: McNerney voted with Kucinich.

Gerry



From alexcathy at aol.com  Fri May 25 11:43:38 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:43:38 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Iraq Vote: What Happened
In-Reply-To: <465725A3.3030407@earthlink.net>
References: <465725A3.3030407@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8C96D13BE2F0816-894-14BA@WEBMAIL-DC08.sysops.aol.com>

Diane Feinstein voted FOR the blank check (why am I NOT surprised?) 

Barbara Boxer voted AGAINST it.? 

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From wechslertoo at earthlink.net  Fri May 25 12:26:38 2007
From: wechslertoo at earthlink.net (Curt Wechsler)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 12:26:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] keep Impeachment on the Green Party table
Message-ID: <410-2200755251926380@earthlink.net>

Hi All,

Some peninsula greens will be gathering to remind State Assembly attendees
to include Impeachment on the party platform tomorrow (Saturday) in San
Francisco.  Please join us!  We will begin flyering about 8:00 am (start of
registration), http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ , and holding IMPEACH
letters (courtesy of Brian and World Can't Wait), for a press conference at
11:30, http://marla.cagreens.org/press/pr070524.shtml .

I would also like to ask you to make copies of the Santa Clara County
Impeachment Resolution, http://www.cagreens.org/santaclara/#fulltext , for
distribution at that time.

See you there?

Curt
member, San Mateo County Green Party and San Francisco Bay Area chapter of
The World Can't Wait - Drive Out the Bush Regime!

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From larrycafiero_liaison at earthlink.net  Fri May 25 14:59:09 2007
From: larrycafiero_liaison at earthlink.net (Larry Cafiero / Liaison)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:59:09 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Note to SC County delegates re Liaison to
	Secretary of State
Message-ID: <6875570.1180130349347.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

To Santa Clara delegates to the San Francisco plenary:

Because the Coordinating Committee has faltered in its responsibility to pick a new Liaison to the Secretary of State for your approval at the plenary, more than one candidate stands for  Liaison to the Secretary of State's office.

This office, which in the eyes of the state is the equivalent of the state party chair and is essentially the "face of the Green Party" to the state of  California, must be filled by a person with both an unwavering commitment to party building as well as an unequivocal commitment to focus first and foremost on state party issues.

As current Liaison to the Secretary of State, I find Jane Rands to be both able and qualified to fill the responsibilities of Liaison to the  Secretary of State for the Green Party of California.

I acknowledge the significant amount of work that Cat Woods has done -- and continues to do -- on behalf of the Green Party of  California and the Green Party of the United States. However, I am not convinced that she would be able to maintain the current work load she has chosen to accept on behalf of the party while providing the necessary attention required to effectively carry out the duties of the Liaison to the Secretary of State for the GPCA.

Jane Rands has exhibited a willingness and desire to serve the party as Liaison to the Secretary of State. Further, she is unaffected by much of the intra-party squabbles that have served as an anchor to weigh down party progress. She has also shown a significant degree of understanding of the state political workings that qualifies her for the position.

Please select Jane Rands to be the next Liaison to the Secretary of State.

Larry Cafiero
Liaison to the Secretary of State (2005-2007)
Green Party of California

==========
end
==========



Liaison to the Secretary of State
Green Party of California


From tnharter at ispwest.com  Fri May 25 16:01:05 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:01:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The Strain in Pain Lies Mainly in the Brain
Message-ID: <46576AB1.1050507@ispwest.com>

*>Sean Mackey, M.D., Ph.D.*
 >
 >*The Strain in Pain Lies Mainly in the Brain:
*>*Applications of Engineering and Technology to Anesthesia and Pain 
Management*
 >
 >
 >Sean Mackey is Associate Director of the Pain Management Division at 
Stanford
 >University, and Co-Director of the Stanford Pain and Research and 
Clinical Center
 >at the Neuroscience Institute, also at Stanford University, as well as 
Assistant
 >Professor at Stanford University in the Departments of Anesthesia and 
Neurosciences.
 >
 >Dr. Mackey has authored over thirty scientific papers, book chapters 
and review
 >articles. His primary research interest involves the use of advanced 
imaging techniques,
 >primarily functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), to investigate 
the neural
 >processing of pain and the factors that contribute to our perception 
of pain. He will
 >describe ongoing research in helping patients experiencing chronic 
pain ?see?
 >their own brain activity in real time, and to use this information to 
control their brain
 >activation in the region associated with the processing and perception 
of pain.
 >
After a few jokes to wake us up, Dr. Mackey said that pain is the number one
reason people see doctors. He quoted this definition "Pain is an unpleasant
sensory and emotional experience associated with actual or potential tissue
damage." Forty to fifty million Americans are affected by pain every year.
His center has studied it since the mid 1990s, working with volunteer
patients and students mostly.

There are two kinds of nerve path that transmit pain signals from 
transducers
throughout the body to the brain. A-fibers give you a quick jolt immediately
after an experience, and C-fibers transmit that burning sensation that 
doesn't
go away quickly. Dr. Mackey then went into some detail about which centers
in the brain sense pain and how it is processed. One thing he mentioned was
"If you decide not to pay attention to it, there are nerve fibers that 
tell your
spine to "turn down that input.""

One of their big discoveries is that they are able to see the image of pain
response in the brain on an MRI machine in real time. Apparently what 
happens
is the brain saturates with blood in the area where pain is being 
experienced,
so the image of it develops a "bright spot". They have used this feedback to
learn a lot about how pain works. Several volunteers have been able to look
at the feedback from their brains and turn down their response to pain, 
leading
to more comfortable outcomes.

Dr. Mackey also said that many individual factors influence a persons 
feelings
of pain. For example, they have learned that depression and pain are often
connected, and that a patient experiencing both will probably need pain
medication and counseling for either treatment to be effective. Cultural
factors are also part of someone's experience of pain.

During Q&A the following came up:

Dr. Mackey believes that the placebo effect is real, and that it can be 
part
of an effective pain management solution. He gave an example from his own
experience, where patients consistently thought a cherry colored liquid did
more pain management than pills with exactly the same medicine content.

Dr. Mackey has noticed that different generations have different vocabulary
for discussing pain. For example, some of today's old Americans talk of
"discomfort" when they mean pain.

Dr. Mackey has not been contacted by, and is not interested in dealing
with the torture people from the U.S. Military.

Stanford's Pain Management Center does research with paid volunteers
and patients who know what they are getting into. Dr. Mackey doesn't
do experiments on animals.

At the Pain Management Center website are many links to articles, 
broadcasts,
and other information from the center. For that, please visit:
http://paincenter.stanford.edu/

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Tuesday we picketed the Santa Clara County Republicans in Sunnyvale.



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 16:26:23 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:26:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Iraq Vote: What Happened
In-Reply-To: <465725A3.3030407@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <202513.59510.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

House YEAS    218 
Eshoo, Lantos, Honda, Lofgren, Matsui, Woolsey,
Conyers, Rangel, Wexler, Murtha, voted AYE.

Senate: 
Feinstein, Biden voted AYE.

House NAYS    201 
McNerney, Ron Paul, Kucinich, (Sensenbrenner &
Hastert!) voted NAY.

Senate:
Boxer, Kerry, Clinton, Obama voted NAY.

At least in the house, if our own CA contingent
(including our own representatives) had voted against
this thing it wouldn't have passed!

The Senate wasn't close.  80-14 with 38 Democrats (the
majority of the party) voting yes.  But any single
senator could have filibustered and none chose to.

Impeach for Peace!

Drew


--- Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> Understanding what the Ds did on the vote is
> apparently not simple.  Something about the vote is
in the rule.
> I haven't time to figure it out now.  But apparently
> the answer might be in here:
> 
>     
> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/25/1447/
> 
> and here:
> 
>      http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll418.xml
> 
> Note: McNerney voted with Kucinich.
> 
> Gerry

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From baalavi at yahoo.com  Fri May 25 17:51:31 2007
From: baalavi at yahoo.com (Bob Alavi)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:51:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] An amazing assembly of what you probably "already
	know"
Message-ID: <585004.73063.qm@web52102.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


> http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,1312542,00.html
> Taken from The Guardian newspaper. How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's
> rise to power
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8795795223394289910&q=bush+nazi
> Investigative reporter who first revealed the bush link to hitler
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003
> Why everybody knows 911 was not done by 19 hijackers
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,00.html
> rumsfeld himself sold North Korea nucleur materials he is on the board of
> directors of a company who sold nucleur material to North Korea, in only
> the year 2000
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6638713703231012207&q=pnac
> PNAC: wanted a new Pearl Harbor
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4023723700225520669&q=bush+911
> Mr Bush and Mr Bin Laden
>
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/eveningnews/main325887.shtml
> Hospital Worker: I Saw Osama
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145&q=911+today
> Michael Ruppert ex Narcotics Los Angeles Police Department
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1822764959599063248
> MIT Engineer analyses WTC Controlled Demolition
>
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4943675105275097719
> London bombing, inconsistencies
>
>
> http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/demolition/seismic.html
> Seismic recordings providing evidence of controlled demolitions
>
>
> http://www.saunalahti.fi/wtc2001/soldier5.htm
> Suggestive Observations
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6275986990543409391&q=ISLAM+AND+911
> EX MI5 agent David Shayler Interview on the Islam Channel
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8180123292618944278&q=Alex+Jones+2006
> former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor for President George W.
> Bush, and former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National
> Center for Policy Analysis Morgan Reynolds, speaking about 911
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6642758020554799808&q=BOHEMIAN+GROVE
> UN 1992 Earth Summit
>
>
> http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,16272,00.html
> The "ethno-bomb"Scientists are trying to use viruses and bacteria to alter
> DNA insideliving cells and attack only ethnic genes
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6966527984215292833&q=skull+and+bones
> news footage of bush and kerry admitting to being members of a secret cult
> called skull and bones
>
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/02/60minutes/main576332.shtml Taken
> from CBS News. Skull and Bones evil secret occult
>
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> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1938640
> Taken from ABC News.Skull and Bones
>
>
> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8437573445992113232&q=secret+societies
> The grand architect of the freemasons
>
>
> http://www.mujca.com/ Global Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat May 26 00:21:55 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 00:21:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Roy declares his candidacy for the CC!
In-Reply-To: <e30eed7e0705250933w3a31a5ctbe1c99f5c82350f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <413685.90204.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Roy Nordblum wrote the following today:

--- Palm Haven Handyman <palmheaven at gmail.com> wrote:

> Reboot.  I'll run for CC.  Roy III


Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!

Drew
who is looking forward to the CC reboot happening this weekend!

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat May 26 00:29:06 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 00:29:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SJSU Environmental Club gardening opportunity on
	Sunday
Message-ID: <695359.36581.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This from the SJSU Environmental Club:

Hey everyone!

The Veggielution! Student Garden Cooperative is a
group of students who want to grow our own food. Right
now we have 2 beautiful gardens that are growing in
nicely. All summer we will be harvesting and eating
tomatoes, zucchini, squash, peppers, corn, beans,
squash, apples, salad, peas, melons, and much more. We
will be cooking together, gardening together, and just
having a great time.


Where are these gardens? There are several homeowners
near campus that have invited us to garden in their
backyards. We have one garden on 14th st, and one on
17th st. They are within walking or biking distance
from campus. We can help you start your own garden, or
you can help out with the existing ones. You can be as
involved as you want to be. Even if you can just help
out a little bit, it helps a lot!

This Sunday afternoon at 4:30 we will be gathering to
get some big jobs done, like digging out some invasive
trees and installing a drip irrigation system. This is
a great chance for you to see the gardens and just
check things out. Please email or call me if you want
to go or if you have any questions.

We have a google group here: http://groups.
google.com/ group/sjsu- veggielution

Have a great summer!

-Amie

amiefrisch at gmail. com

(408) 887-2562

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat May 26 07:37:57 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 07:37:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Ranked Voting! AB 1294 ranked voting - Urge
	your representatives
Message-ID: <281177.25661.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Please circulate this call to action as widely as you
can outside of the 6th Assembly District.  And thank
our own representative in the Assembly, Jared Huffman,
for co-authoring AB 1294.  The Assembly floor vote
will be next week, so please act today.  Thank  you.
 
Bob Richard
Marin Ranked Voting
http://www.marinrankedvoting.org
P.O. Box 235
Kentfield, CA 94914-0235
(415) 256-9393
 

http://webmail1.webmail.aol.com/25698/aol/en-us/Mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=1.18728854&folder=New+Mail&partId=5

Please contact your representatives in the CA Assembly
ASAP and urge their support for AB 1294 (local option
for ranked voting).

AB 1294 is key electoral reform legislation in that it
allows local governments to use ranked voting systems
like Instant Runoff Voting and Choice Voting.   It
doesn't mandate that jurisdictions use these systems,
but simply gives them the option to do so if their
voters approve of such a change.

Ranked voting is more fair, preferred by voters, saves
local governments money, and can lead to dramatic
improvements in effective voter participation. 
Charter jurisdictions already have the ability to use
these systems, but AB 1294 allows all cities and
counties this option.  Detailed information about the
bill, its benefits, and its supporters is below.

AB 1294 is off to a good start, having passed through
both the Assembly Elections Committee and Assembly
Appropriations Committee.  In addition, a number of
other legislators have signed on as co-authors of the
bill, including Assembly Members Hancock, Huffman,
Laird, Karnette, Ma, and Davis, in addition to the
principle authors Mullin and Leno.

Please call, fax, or email your representative in the
Assembly and ask that they vote for the bill when it
is brought up on the Assembly floor next week.   If
your local Assembly member is already an author or
co-author of the bill, please thank them for their
leadership.

A roster of Assembly members and their phone, fax, and
email contact information is available at:
     
http://www.cfer.org/legislation/CA_Assembly_Member_Roster_2007.htm

If you don't know who is your representative in the
Assembly or Senate, you can learn this information
using your address or a map at:
      http://192.234.213.69/amapsearch/framepage.asp

BACKGROUND

AB 1294, introduced by Assembly Members Mullin (D-19)
and Leno (D-13), would allow all cities and counties
to use ranked voting systems to elect their
representatives. The bill would allow these
jurisdictions to use Instant Runoff Voting for
single-winner elections or Choice Voting (a ranked
voting system similar to IRV) for multiple-winner
elections. It would also add to the state Elections
Code the guidelines and procedures registrars and
equipment vendors need to count and report ranked
voting elections.

AB 1294 was passed through the Committee on Elections
and Redistricting on April 17th and just recently
passed through the Committee on Appropriations on May
9th.  The next stop for our bill is the floor of the
Assembly.

This bill is important in that most local
jurisdictions are not able to use ranked voting
systems under current law, and this bill would permit
them to do so. Today only charter counties or charter
cities can use IRV, but over three-fourths of cities
and counties are general law jurisdictions and don't
have these options. Over half of Californians live in
a general law city, a general law county, or both. AB
1294 would give these jurisdictions these additional
options, but would not mandate that any jurisdictions
use these systems. In other words, it is simply
permissive and gives local governments the tools they
need to respond to the wishes of their voters.

Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) ensures that the winner of
a single-winner election has the support of the
majority of voters in a single election. By
eliminating the need for a costly runoff election it
saves local governments a lot of money -- about $2M
per election in San Francisco alone. IRV also
eliminates vote-splitting and spoiler effects, both of
which undermine the public's confidence the political
process. Finally, IRV helps promote positive,
issue-based campaigns with less negative campaigning
because candidates will seek 2nd and 3rd choice votes.

San Francisco has used Instant Runoff Voting extremely
successfully for three consecutive elections, and all
academic and survey research shows that the results
have been excellent. San Francisco voters understood
IRV extremely well, used it effectively, and
overwhelmingly prefer it to the old two-round runoff
system that they had used for decades. In fact, of
voters expressing a preference, approximately 3 to 1
prefer the IRV system over their old system.

Given the momentum for ranked voting building around
the country -- shown last November in Oakland, Davis,
Minneapolis (MN) and Pierce County (WA) -- this bill
comes at an excellent time.

TALKING POINTS FOR AB 1294:

1) IRV has an extremely successful track record in its
usage in San Francisco

All of the available research and surveys of the usage
of IRV in San Francisco support the fact that every
single demographic in the city -- defined by where
they live and their race, age, gender, party and
political philosophy -- preferred IRV to the old
runoff system.  In fact, voters prefer IRV by a
three-to-one margin over the old system.  Over 87% of
voters said that they understood IRV perfectly well or
fairly well, and voters two-to-one perceived the
instant runoff voting system as more fair than the
prior two-round runoff system.  So from the standpoint
of voter acceptance, ranked voting has proven
exceptional in the last three elections in San
Francisco.  And in addition to this local usage, over
25 million people worldwide use IRV and have done so
for many decades, showing that this is not something
on the bleeding edge, but rather a proven system
gaining acceptance in California and other states.

2) IRV can lead to dramatic improvements in voter
participation

One of the arguments that members are finding
particularly compelling about the bill is the
potential for dramatic improvement in voter turnout as
a result of using ranked voting, especially among
minority communities. San Francisco saw an effective
tripling of voter participation overall as a result of
using ranked voting (and being able to combine two
elections into a single election), and as much as a
quadrupling of turnout among minority and low-income
neighborhoods.  Such improvements seem likely in other
jurisdictions as well, and also for local elections
which coincide with the statewide primary and general
elections. For an analysis of how IRV led to
significant improvements in voter turnout in San
Francisco, see:
http://www.sfrcv.org/reports/turnout.pdf

3) IRV can save local governments considerable money

There is a significant potential for cost savings by
eliminating the need for expensive runoff elections,
often elections with single-digit voter turnout.  San
Francisco alone saves b/w $2 million and $3 million
per election, which is real money when we are talking
about local government budgets.   In Los Angeles
County, they had an election last week that cost $5
million dollars and only had 6% voter turnout.

4) Cities and counties deserve the opportunity to use
the electoral systems that best address their unique
needs . Currently, only charter cities have this
opportunity, and it should be extended to all local
governments. Giving general law jurisdictions the
right to improve their election procedures would open
up valuable new opportunities for them to achieve more
representative democracy and better government.
Allowing local jurisdictions to demonstrate
improvements to their electoral processes allows the
whole state to benefit and see what works best.

5) Our current voting systems suffer from a variety of
deficits, including vote splitting and spoiler
effects, and unequal representation. Spoiler and vote
splitting effects can allow a candidate to be elected
where the majority of people would prefer a different
candidate. Our winner-take-all electoral systems
ensure that a significant percentage of the population
is denied representation, and this ultimately
undermines the political system. In particular,
minority communities suffer the most, and the Choice
Voting system allowed by this legislation provides for
much greater opportunities for representation than are
afforded under our current at-large winner-take-all
systems.

6) The lack of uniform election code support for these
improved electoral systems is a significant obstacle
to cities and counties and other jurisdictions that
want to use these systems, and AB 1294 addresses this
need. In addition, City and County officials and/or
local Registrars are not put in the difficult
positions of having to make up such procedures
themselves.

7) AB 1294 is broadly supported

See the partial list below of organizations and
individuals supporting AB 1294. 


SUPPORTERS OF AB 1294 INCLUDE:

          o Californians for Electoral Reform
(sponsor)
          o Secretary of State Debra Bowen
          o Asian Americans for Civil Rights and
Equality
          o Asian Pacific American Legal Center
          o California Common Cause
          o California League of Women Voters
          o California Peace and Freedom Party
          o California Public Interest Research Group
          o City Clerks Association of California
          o City of Davis, CA
          o City of Fort Bragg
          o Community Development Institute of East
Palo Alto
          o Davis Choice Voting
          o Democracy for America
          o FairVote ? the Center for Voting and
Democracy
          o Greenlining Institute
          o Kevin McKeown, Councilmember, City of
Santa Monica
          o Latinos for America
          o League of California Cities
          o Los Angeles Voters for Instant Runoff
Elections
          o Mexican American Legal Defense and
Education Fund (MALDEF)
          o New America Foundation
          o San Mateo County Democracy for America
          o Warren Slocum, Chief Elections Officer &
Assessor-Clerk-Recorder, San Mateo County
          o Yolo County Registrar of Voters Freddie
Oakley

Thanks for all your help!

    Rob Dickinson
    Executive Vice President
    Californians for Electoral Reform
    Email: rdickinson at cfer.org
    Web: www.cfer.org
    Phone: 650-365-6025
    Mobile: 650-544-5925 

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat May 26 15:47:49 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 15:47:49 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Civil Rights Conference
Message-ID: <4658B915.2040305@earthlink.net>


There will be a civil rights conference on Saturday, June 2,
(1 week from today), in Newark.  It is being organized by
the California Civil Rights Alliance:

     http://civilrightsforall.net/

A PDF flyer can be obtained by going to the above website
and clicking on "CALIFORNIA'S 2007 CIVIL RIGHTS' SUMMIT".
Or you might be able to get it by going directly to

http://www.civilrightsforall.net/images/special/2007%20CVR%20summet%20flyer.pdf

(You might have to replace the 3 "%20" with one space each.)

	-	-	-	-	-

Title: Civil Rights in the Era of Economic Globalization

The scheduet topics include:

"Warrantless Domestic Surveilance; Immigrants Rights;
Racial and Religious Discrimination; Curtailing Freedoms
of Speech & Assembly; Economic Disparities; Due Process"


Speakers include:

Nativo Lopez,
Eric Vickers (Civil Rights Attorney),
Pete McCloskey,
Mark Hinkle (Former Chair Libertarian Party of California),
Evelyn Sanchez (Coordinator, Bay Area Immigrants Rights Coalition),
Liz Figueroa (State Senator),
Todd Chretien,
Jo Chamberlain,
Harry Scott (Executive Board, Hayward Demos Democratic Club),
Renee Saucedo (Immigrants Rights Organizer, Activist),
David Bacon (Journalist, Labor Expert),
Agha Saeed (National Chair, American Muslim Taskforce
     on Civil Rights and Elections)


Price: $20 (Luch, Tea, and Snacks included)

Date/Time: June 2, 10:00am (sharp) - 2:30pm

Place: Chandni Restaurant's Banquet Hall
     Mowry School Road, Balentine Plaza, Newark, CA
     Exit I-88- Stevenson Blvd

	-	-	-	-	-

Gerry





From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sat May 26 22:44:02 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 22:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Civil Rights Conference
In-Reply-To: <4658B915.2040305@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <646309.99646.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Si, and Nativo Lopez (big latino organizer who
switched to the Green Party last year) invited us to
come (at the plenary today where I met him).  MAPA is
going to set up an office in our county soon and
Nativo is going to help us get really hooked up with
the Latino Community!!!  So I'm definitely going and
hoping that some others will join me there.

Si se puede!

Dreas


--- Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> There will be a civil rights conference on Saturday,
> June 2,
> (1 week from today), in Newark.  It is being
> organized by
> the California Civil Rights Alliance:
> 
>      http://civilrightsforall.net/
> 
> A PDF flyer can be obtained by going to the above
> website
> and clicking on "CALIFORNIA'S 2007 CIVIL RIGHTS'
> SUMMIT".
> Or you might be able to get it by going directly to
> 
>
http://www.civilrightsforall.net/images/special/2007%20CVR%20summet%20flyer.pdf
> 
> (You might have to replace the 3 "%20" with one
> space each.)
> 
> 	-	-	-	-	-
> 
> Title: Civil Rights in the Era of Economic
> Globalization
> 
> The scheduet topics include:
> 
> "Warrantless Domestic Surveilance; Immigrants
> Rights;
> Racial and Religious Discrimination; Curtailing
> Freedoms
> of Speech & Assembly; Economic Disparities; Due
> Process"
> 
> 
> Speakers include:
> 
> Nativo Lopez,
> Eric Vickers (Civil Rights Attorney),
> Pete McCloskey,
> Mark Hinkle (Former Chair Libertarian Party of
> California),
> Evelyn Sanchez (Coordinator, Bay Area Immigrants
> Rights Coalition),
> Liz Figueroa (State Senator),
> Todd Chretien,
> Jo Chamberlain,
> Harry Scott (Executive Board, Hayward Demos
> Democratic Club),
> Renee Saucedo (Immigrants Rights Organizer,
> Activist),
> David Bacon (Journalist, Labor Expert),
> Agha Saeed (National Chair, American Muslim
> Taskforce
>      on Civil Rights and Elections)
> 
> 
> Price: $20 (Luch, Tea, and Snacks included)
> 
> Date/Time: June 2, 10:00am (sharp) - 2:30pm
> 
> Place: Chandni Restaurant's Banquet Hall
>      Mowry School Road, Balentine Plaza, Newark, CA
>      Exit I-88- Stevenson Blvd
> 
> 	-	-	-	-	-
> 
> Gerry

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Sun May 27 23:25:12 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 23:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] County Council Meeting This Tuesday, Sunnyvale
Message-ID: <704549.29579.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

GPSCC County Council Meeting this Tuesday, 7pm In
Sunnyvale @ "Coffee and More", 100 S Murphy St.

All are invited.  Please send any issues you'd like
the Council to address to the discuss list.

Drew Johnson
GPSCC County Council member

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 28 00:43:00 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 00:43:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 77% of GA Vote No Confidence - CC Must GO!
	Voluntary Reboot Called for!
Message-ID: <153312.9880.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear Fellow Greens, 

77% voted NO CONFIDENCE in the CC!!! 

Therefore Resolved: The entire CC (minus the members
elected/appointed this weekend) should voluntarily
resign immediately in accordance with the clearly
expressed will of the General Assembly (56 Yes to 16
No) 77% of the GA voted in favor of the 'Reboot the
CC' proposal (included below) this weekend in SF.

If CC members care about the party more than they care
about retaining their own power they should
immediately resign.  Let them each demonstrate that
they have the best interest in the party by resigning.
 Let real leaders lead the way.  The Co-Cos could set
the example by leading off.  If these people are
actually greens and not just run of the mill greedhead
power hungry politicos let them do the right thing. 
This is a Lead, follow, or get out of the way moment. 
Let the leaders lead!

Some perspective: 51% would be a majority.  In the
popular press anything over 56% is considered a
'landslide'.  60% is a supermajority in most
organizations, 66% 2/3rds in others.  This was a vote
of more than 3/4 of the delegates!  Hello!  

Typically, in a Westminster system parliament votes no
confidence, government must either:
   1. resign, or
   2. seek a parliamentary dissolution and request a
general election.

The last successful no confidence motion in the UK was
in March 1979 when the Opposition motion was passed by
just one vote - 311 to 310. Parliament was then
dissolved in April and the general election took place
in May.  Would that our 'green' crew would be so
respectful of our General Assembly!

So by a technicality we did not reach the 80%
threshold that a policy decision by the GA needs. 
However this does not stop the CC members from doing
the right thing voluntarily.  If they care about the
party more than themselves they will resign.

If the CC members selfishly refuse there is another
way we can enforce the will of the GA:  Each County
Council and region can call for the resignation of
their RR.  As a County Council Member of the GP of
Santa Clara County I'll be happy to lead the way.

Drink Green uniTEA not factional koolaid!

Drew Johnson
GP of Santa Clara County Council Member and Delegate
to the General Assembly

Below is the text of the 'Reboot Proposal'
________________________________

TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE

PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)

APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council

BACKGROUND: 
The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of an
ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many hours of
meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
useless due to infighting around "the LA situation,"
meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the CC.
Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
with contested seats has instead increased to 4. The
result is that the CC is no longer able to perform its
main function of planning plenaries.

This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who are
not and have not been involved in the party
infighting, much as a professional committee in the
business world will be reconstituted when unable to do
its work. It is
reconstituted with representation more proportionate
to
membership, as California has promoted in the national
party.

Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the chaos
around the facilitation procedures for the CC. Using
supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
decisions has resulted in the following situations:

* meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
items even discussed in the interest of
consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of an
agenda

* facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether to
add 5 minutes to an item
* long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted on
discussions of whether to add an item to the agenda,
alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator

* two different voting thresholds applying based
solely on whether the vote itself is taken online or
during a
teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject to
manipulations based on voting thresholds.

This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
facilitation procedures are based on two main
premises:
1. The decision-making body has authority over its
agenda.
2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
subtraction of discussion time, are not intended to
involve whole separate consensus processes and stacks
of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations on
the facilitation decision. (Note that the facilitation
rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
either.)

This proposal is a combination of a variety of ideas
for solving the CC's problems that have been brought
forward over recent months. The presenters hope that
adoption of this proposal will finally end the CC's
infighting based on historical animosities and give
the new CC a real opportunity to do its
bylaws-mandated job.

PROPOSAL: 
I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the GPCA
Coordinating Committee (CC)

a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days from
the passage of this proposal.

b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
shall
allocate the 16 regional representative seats
proportionally to the Green Party membership in each
region. This calculation shall be performed by the
outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal Proportions
described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.

c. All regions shall announce new elections to fill
the
regional representative seats as soon as possible.
Regions must hold open, transparent elections with at
least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as possible
in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
representative vacancies shall be posted to the county
contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
this proposal. Regions without alternate processes may
adopt temporary alternate processes for the purpose of
filling the seats in a timely manner.

d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has claimed
to serve on the CC, as representative or alternate,
over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible to
run for or fill any representative or alternate seat
on the CC for the next 2 years.

e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in order
to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the new
apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
transitional terms would be expected to fall as
follows:

Even-Numbered Years
1 Emerald	January 2008
2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
1 San Francisco	May 2008
1 Silicon	June 2008
1 East Bay	July 2008
3 Los Angeles	November 2008
1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
1 ORSB	November 2008

Odd-Numbered Years
2 At-large	spring GA 2009
2 Central	May 2009
1 North Bay	May 2009
1 East Bay	July 2009
1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
1 Central Coast	August 2009
1 ORSB	November 2009

II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
facilitation shall proceed according to the following
guidelines:

a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the CC
listserv at least one week in advance of a scheduled
meeting.

b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
simple majority threshold for approval. 

c. Changes in announced facilitation require a simple
majority threshold for approval.

d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
approved agenda requires a simple majority approval of
the CC. 

e. Adding a last minute item that was not submitted to
the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires a
2/3 threshold.

f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an item
is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an online
vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as if
the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
advance). If an item goes to an online vote without
being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80% threshold.

g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
majority (over half) decides to extend the call for a
specific amount of time. Decisions must then be made
within the time of the approved extension.

h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
facilitation decisions can be done by asking quickly
for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll call
if approval is unclear.

i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to take
thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
list, amend them according to posted corrections, and
post the final version to both the CC listserv and the
archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
description and hiring criteria for this position.

j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic tasks
that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate this
schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it is
adopted.

TIMELINE: 
Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may take
place starting 2 weeks after passage of this proposal.
Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but may
not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
achieved. 

RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
budgeting funds for this.

___________________

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 28 07:58:21 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 07:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Rachel Carson, heroine of  green movement,
	100th year May 27th celebration
Message-ID: <377705.39980.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We could adopt a new standard in the green movement:
when faced with a tough decision we could ask
ourselves What Would Rachel Do?  Happy Memorial Day!

Green for life!

Drew Johnson
Calfornia

http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article2584181.ece

Biologist Rachel Carson: Heroine of the green movement

Rachel Carson was a shy biologist who, with one book,
changed history. Paul Vallely celebrates the centenary
of the woman who first warned the world of the perils
of environmental pollution
Published: 26 May 2007

She was the mother of environmentalism, and in 1962
she published what turned out to be the founding text
of modern ecology: Silent Spring. Its title was meant
to evoke a time - not far in the future - when the
season of new growth would be one in which, to quote
Keats, "no birds sing", because they had all died from
pesticide poisoning. It was a work which was to be
listed - alongside The Wealth of Nations, Das Kapital
and The Origin of the Species - as a book which
changed the course of history.

Its subject was the use of the chemical DDT which, in
the 1950s, was being sprayed recklessly around the
American and European countryside to control pests as
minor as the spruce budworm. No thought was being
given to its ecological impact. In 1962, "the
environment" had not been invented.

Its author, Rachel Carson, was born 100 years ago
tomorrow. She was an American marine biologist who, as
a child, spent hours with her mother absorbed in the
ponds, fields and forests around her home on a small
family farm in Pennsylvania. She worked at the US
Bureau of Fisheries as an aquatic biologist where she
worked as a government official until a trilogy of
books on the sea brought her a good income and modest
literary stardom.

<snip>

For all see:
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article2584181.ece
http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2007/05/27/maine_to_mark_100th_anniversary_of_environmental_pioneers_birth/

Maine to mark 100th anniversary of environmental
pioneer's birth

May 27, 2007

PORTLAND, Maine --Maine is among at least a dozen
states that plan to commemorate the 100th anniversary
of the birth of environmental pioneer Rachel Carson,
best-known for her landmark book, "Silent Spring."

A centennial celebration will be held early next month
at the Rachel Carson National Wildlife Refuge in
Wells.

Carson, who had a summer cottage on Southport Island,
died of breast cancer in 1964, two years after "Silent
Spring" was published. The book focused on the misuse
of pesticides, most notably DDT, and their impact on
public health and the environment.

"She really challenged the status quo of the time,
which was 'better living through chemistry.' She was
challenging that," said Gail Carlson, a visiting
professor in environmental studies at Colby College
who has been teaching Carson's book for several years.

Many of Carlson's students had never heard of Carson.
And while "Silent Spring" may seem obsolete today,
Carlson said its message is timeless.

"You can never be too young to be inspired by her...
More people should know her full story, so they could
maybe be reminded about what a pioneer she really
was," Carlson said.

After several years of inquiry sparked largely by
"Silent Spring," general use of DDT in the United
States was banned 35 years ago. Carson, often credited
with launching the modern-day environmental movement,
left behind a legacy that still inspires generations
of environmentalists, scientists and women.

In 1999, Carson was named by Time magazine as one of
the 100 most influential people of the 20th century.
This year, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, where
Carson was employed for more than 15 years, created an
online book club that is a forum for people to discuss
works by and about Carson.

The refuge in Maine that will commemorate the 100th
anniversary of Carson's birth was established in 1966
and named for Carson in 1970. Her early books,
including "The Edge of the Sea," were largely inspired
by Maine's coast.

"Maine became her laboratory for the writing that she
did," said Martha Freeman, granddaughter of Dorothy
Freeman, a close friend to Carson.

It was through her grandmother that Martha Freeman,
now director of the State Planning Office, got to know
Carson.

Carson would often take Freeman, her brother and
Carson's adopted son, Roger, to explore tidal pools
and examine findings under the microscope. They also
would take walks in the woods.

"It was fun to be with her," Freeman said. "She was a
quiet, gentle person."

------

Information from: Portland Press Herald, http://www.pressherald.com

___________________

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon May 28 09:54:44 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 09:54:44 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 77% of GA Vote No Confidence - CC Must
	GO!	Voluntary Reboot Called for!
References: <153312.9880.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <465B0954.8030909@earthlink.net>


Question:

Was that a policy decision or a business decision?
If the latter, then the threshold is 2/3 not 4/5.

Gerry


JamBoi wrote:

> Dear Fellow Greens, 
> 
> 77% voted NO CONFIDENCE in the CC!!! 
> 
> Therefore Resolved: The entire CC (minus the members
> elected/appointed this weekend) should voluntarily
> resign immediately in accordance with the clearly
> expressed will of the General Assembly (56 Yes to 16
> No) 77% of the GA voted in favor of the 'Reboot the
> CC' proposal (included below) this weekend in SF.
> 
> If CC members care about the party more than they care
> about retaining their own power they should
> immediately resign.  Let them each demonstrate that
> they have the best interest in the party by resigning.
>  Let real leaders lead the way.  The Co-Cos could set
> the example by leading off.  If these people are
> actually greens and not just run of the mill greedhead
> power hungry politicos let them do the right thing. 
> This is a Lead, follow, or get out of the way moment. 
> Let the leaders lead!
> 
> Some perspective: 51% would be a majority.  In the
> popular press anything over 56% is considered a
> 'landslide'.  60% is a supermajority in most
> organizations, 66% 2/3rds in others.  This was a vote
> of more than 3/4 of the delegates!  Hello!  
> 
> Typically, in a Westminster system parliament votes no
> confidence, government must either:
>    1. resign, or
>    2. seek a parliamentary dissolution and request a
> general election.
> 
> The last successful no confidence motion in the UK was
> in March 1979 when the Opposition motion was passed by
> just one vote - 311 to 310. Parliament was then
> dissolved in April and the general election took place
> in May.  Would that our 'green' crew would be so
> respectful of our General Assembly!
> 
> So by a technicality we did not reach the 80%
> threshold that a policy decision by the GA needs. 
> However this does not stop the CC members from doing
> the right thing voluntarily.  If they care about the
> party more than themselves they will resign.
> 
> If the CC members selfishly refuse there is another
> way we can enforce the will of the GA:  Each County
> Council and region can call for the resignation of
> their RR.  As a County Council Member of the GP of
> Santa Clara County I'll be happy to lead the way.
> 
> Drink Green uniTEA not factional koolaid!
> 
> Drew Johnson
> GP of Santa Clara County Council Member and Delegate
> to the General Assembly
> 
> Below is the text of the 'Reboot Proposal'
> ________________________________
> 
> TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
> RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE
> 
> PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
> Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)
> 
> APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council
> 
> BACKGROUND: 
> The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
> deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of an
> ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many hours of
> meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
> useless due to infighting around "the LA situation,"
> meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the CC.
> Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
> resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
> with contested seats has instead increased to 4. The
> result is that the CC is no longer able to perform its
> main function of planning plenaries.
> 
> This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who are
> not and have not been involved in the party
> infighting, much as a professional committee in the
> business world will be reconstituted when unable to do
> its work. It is
> reconstituted with representation more proportionate
> to
> membership, as California has promoted in the national
> party.
> 
> Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the chaos
> around the facilitation procedures for the CC. Using
> supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
> decisions has resulted in the following situations:
> 
> * meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
> items even discussed in the interest of
> consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of an
> agenda
> 
> * facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether to
> add 5 minutes to an item
> * long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted on
> discussions of whether to add an item to the agenda,
> alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator
> 
> * two different voting thresholds applying based
> solely on whether the vote itself is taken online or
> during a
> teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject to
> manipulations based on voting thresholds.
> 
> This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
> procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
> meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
> facilitation procedures are based on two main
> premises:
> 1. The decision-making body has authority over its
> agenda.
> 2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
> approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
> subtraction of discussion time, are not intended to
> involve whole separate consensus processes and stacks
> of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations on
> the facilitation decision. (Note that the facilitation
> rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
> either.)
> 
> This proposal is a combination of a variety of ideas
> for solving the CC's problems that have been brought
> forward over recent months. The presenters hope that
> adoption of this proposal will finally end the CC's
> infighting based on historical animosities and give
> the new CC a real opportunity to do its
> bylaws-mandated job.
> 
> PROPOSAL: 
> I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the GPCA
> Coordinating Committee (CC)
> 
> a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days from
> the passage of this proposal.
> 
> b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
> shall
> allocate the 16 regional representative seats
> proportionally to the Green Party membership in each
> region. This calculation shall be performed by the
> outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
> Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal Proportions
> described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.
> 
> c. All regions shall announce new elections to fill
> the
> regional representative seats as soon as possible.
> Regions must hold open, transparent elections with at
> least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as possible
> in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
> representative vacancies shall be posted to the county
> contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
> this proposal. Regions without alternate processes may
> adopt temporary alternate processes for the purpose of
> filling the seats in a timely manner.
> 
> d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has claimed
> to serve on the CC, as representative or alternate,
> over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible to
> run for or fill any representative or alternate seat
> on the CC for the next 2 years.
> 
> e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in order
> to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the new
> apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
> transitional terms would be expected to fall as
> follows:
> 
> Even-Numbered Years
> 1 Emerald	January 2008
> 2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
> 1 San Francisco	May 2008
> 1 Silicon	June 2008
> 1 East Bay	July 2008
> 3 Los Angeles	November 2008
> 1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
> 1 ORSB	November 2008
> 
> Odd-Numbered Years
> 2 At-large	spring GA 2009
> 2 Central	May 2009
> 1 North Bay	May 2009
> 1 East Bay	July 2009
> 1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
> 1 Central Coast	August 2009
> 1 ORSB	November 2009
> 
> II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
> facilitation shall proceed according to the following
> guidelines:
> 
> a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the CC
> listserv at least one week in advance of a scheduled
> meeting.
> 
> b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
> prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
> simple majority threshold for approval. 
> 
> c. Changes in announced facilitation require a simple
> majority threshold for approval.
> 
> d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
> approved agenda requires a simple majority approval of
> the CC. 
> 
> e. Adding a last minute item that was not submitted to
> the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires a
> 2/3 threshold.
> 
> f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
> teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an item
> is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an online
> vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as if
> the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
> regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
> scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
> advance). If an item goes to an online vote without
> being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80% threshold.
> 
> g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
> scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
> majority (over half) decides to extend the call for a
> specific amount of time. Decisions must then be made
> within the time of the approved extension.
> 
> h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
> facilitation decisions can be done by asking quickly
> for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll call
> if approval is unclear.
> 
> i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to take
> thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
> list, amend them according to posted corrections, and
> post the final version to both the CC listserv and the
> archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
> description and hiring criteria for this position.
> 
> j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic tasks
> that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate this
> schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it is
> adopted.
> 
> TIMELINE: 
> Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may take
> place starting 2 weeks after passage of this proposal.
> Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but may
> not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
> achieved. 
> 
> RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
> budgeting funds for this.
> 
> ___________________
> 
> JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
> The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> 
> "To the brave belong all things"
> Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans around 400BC
> 
> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally" (anon)
> 
> 
>  
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Mon May 28 11:14:50 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 14:14:50 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Roy declares his candidacy for the
	CC!/General SVR CC Rep Issues
Message-ID: <c9c.10c940d4.338c761a@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/26/07 12:22:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
jamboi at yahoo.com writes:

Roy  Nordblum wrote the following today:

--- Palm Haven Handyman  <palmheaven at gmail.com> wrote:

> Reboot.  I'll run for  CC.  Roy III





We did not have a regional caucus at  the SF plenary.  Both Jo and Jim have 
expressed the intention to resign as  CC Rep and Alternate, respectively, for 
our Silicon Valley Region.   So...  for anyone interested in becoming CC Rep or 
Alternate...  and  for all of us, consider:
 
1.  Do you have an understanding  of your responsibilites as CC Rep or Alt? 
What is your background in the GP or  other organizations that is the basis for 
this?  (E.g., email list and  telephone conference participation; 
participating in CC committees and GPCA  Standing Committees and Working Groups; 
Communcating with both County GPs in the  region; Etc.)
2.  Do you have the time and  energies to fulfill those responsibilities?
3.  Ongoing appointment process  issues:  For years there has been a proposal 
for both county GPs to adopt  Bylaws that would allow us to appoint our CC 
Rep outside of a plenary  meeting.  The closest we have come to getting this 
done is an informal  understanding that both County GPs will approve volunteers 
and they will be  formally appointed by a regional caucus at the next plenary.  
The  informal agreement is that we will try to have the CC Rep from one 
county and  the alternate from the other.  We could "opt out" of the need for a 
plenary  caucus if folks would get focused enough to amend the bylaws for each 
county  party.
 
Warner



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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Mon May 28 19:07:25 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:07:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 77% of GA Vote No Confidence - CC Must GO!
	Voluntary Reboot Called for!
In-Reply-To: <465B0954.8030909@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <91313.47015.qm@web52208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The folks that were trying to hold onto their power
were calling it a 'policy decision' and the factions
resorted to the loophole that says if there's a
dispute it defaults to 80%.  (!!!)

Drink Green uniTEA, not factional koolaid!

Drew


--- Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net> wrote:

> 
> Question:
> 
> Was that a policy decision or a business decision?
> If the latter, then the threshold is 2/3 not 4/5.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
> JamBoi wrote:
> 
> > Dear Fellow Greens, 
> > 
> > 77% voted NO CONFIDENCE in the CC!!! 
> > 
> > Therefore Resolved: The entire CC (minus the
> members
> > elected/appointed this weekend) should voluntarily
> > resign immediately in accordance with the clearly
> > expressed will of the General Assembly (56 Yes to
> 16
> > No) 77% of the GA voted in favor of the 'Reboot
> the
> > CC' proposal (included below) this weekend in SF.
> > 
> > If CC members care about the party more than they
> care
> > about retaining their own power they should
> > immediately resign.  Let them each demonstrate
> that
> > they have the best interest in the party by
> resigning.
> >  Let real leaders lead the way.  The Co-Cos could
> set
> > the example by leading off.  If these people are
> > actually greens and not just run of the mill
> greedhead
> > power hungry politicos let them do the right
> thing. 
> > This is a Lead, follow, or get out of the way
> moment. 
> > Let the leaders lead!
> > 
> > Some perspective: 51% would be a majority.  In the
> > popular press anything over 56% is considered a
> > 'landslide'.  60% is a supermajority in most
> > organizations, 66% 2/3rds in others.  This was a
> vote
> > of more than 3/4 of the delegates!  Hello!  
> > 
> > Typically, in a Westminster system parliament
> votes no
> > confidence, government must either:
> >    1. resign, or
> >    2. seek a parliamentary dissolution and request
> a
> > general election.
> > 
> > The last successful no confidence motion in the UK
> was
> > in March 1979 when the Opposition motion was
> passed by
> > just one vote - 311 to 310. Parliament was then
> > dissolved in April and the general election took
> place
> > in May.  Would that our 'green' crew would be so
> > respectful of our General Assembly!
> > 
> > So by a technicality we did not reach the 80%
> > threshold that a policy decision by the GA needs. 
> > However this does not stop the CC members from
> doing
> > the right thing voluntarily.  If they care about
> the
> > party more than themselves they will resign.
> > 
> > If the CC members selfishly refuse there is
> another
> > way we can enforce the will of the GA:  Each
> County
> > Council and region can call for the resignation of
> > their RR.  As a County Council Member of the GP of
> > Santa Clara County I'll be happy to lead the way.
> > 
> > Drink Green uniTEA not factional koolaid!
> > 
> > Drew Johnson
> > GP of Santa Clara County Council Member and
> Delegate
> > to the General Assembly
> > 
> > Below is the text of the 'Reboot Proposal'
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > TITLE: RESOLVING THE IMPASSE: 
> > RECONSTITUTING THE GPCA COORDINATING COMMITTEE
> > 
> > PRESENTERS: Mike Wyman (mswyman at comcast.net),
> > Marilyn Ditmanson (mditmanson at sbcglobal.net)
> > 
> > APPROVED BY: Green Party of Marin county council
> > 
> > BACKGROUND: 
> > The GPCA Coordinating Committee (CC) has been
> > deadlocked since October 2006. This is a result of
> an
> > ongoing conflict that goes back to 2001. Many
> hours of
> > meetings over the past 6 years have been rendered
> > useless due to infighting around "the LA
> situation,"
> > meaning which group from LA gets to vote on the
> CC.
> > Proposals of mediation and compromise have only
> > resulted in more infighting. The number of regions
> > with contested seats has instead increased to 4.
> The
> > result is that the CC is no longer able to perform
> its
> > main function of planning plenaries.
> > 
> > This proposal reconstitutes the CC with people who
> are
> > not and have not been involved in the party
> > infighting, much as a professional committee in
> the
> > business world will be reconstituted when unable
> to do
> > its work. It is
> > reconstituted with representation more
> proportionate
> > to
> > membership, as California has promoted in the
> national
> > party.
> > 
> > Part of the CC deadlock has been caused by the
> chaos
> > around the facilitation procedures for the CC.
> Using
> > supermajority voting thresholds for facilitation
> > decisions has resulted in the following
> situations:
> > 
> > * meetings being unable to be held at all, and no
> > items even discussed in the interest of
> > consensus-building, due to lack of 2/3 approval of
> an
> > agenda
> > 
> > * facilitators taking 45-minute stacks on whether
> to
> > add 5 minutes to an item
> > * long stretches of valuable meeting time wasted
> on
> > discussions of whether to add an item to the
> agenda,
> > alter the agenda or choose a new facilitator
> > 
> > * two different voting thresholds applying based
> > solely on whether the vote itself is taken online
> or
> > during a
> > teleconference, allowing proposals to be subject
> to
> > manipulations based on voting thresholds.
> > 
> > This proposal also clarifies basic facilitation
> > procedures for GPCA coordinating committee (CC)
> > meetings in order to avoid such situations. These
> > facilitation procedures are based on two main
> > premises:
> > 1. The decision-making body has authority over its
> > agenda.
> > 2. Basic facilitation decisions, such as agenda
> > approval, agenda amendment, and addition or
> > subtraction of discussion time, are not intended
> to
> > involve whole separate consensus processes and
> stacks
> > of clarifying questions, concerns and affirmations
> on
> > the facilitation decision. (Note that the
> facilitation
> > rules passed out at plenaries do not suggest this,
> > either.)
> > 
> > This proposal is a combination of a variety of
> ideas
> > for solving the CC's problems that have been
> brought
> > forward over recent months. The presenters hope
> that
> > adoption of this proposal will finally end the
> CC's
> > infighting based on historical animosities and
> give
> > the new CC a real opportunity to do its
> > bylaws-mandated job.
> > 
> > PROPOSAL: 
> > I.The General Assembly hereby reconstitutes the
> GPCA
> > Coordinating Committee (CC)
> > 
> > a. All seats on the CC are vacant as of 30 days
> from
> > the passage of this proposal.
> > 
> > b. Per Paragraph 7-1.2 of the GPCA bylaws, the GA
> > shall
> > allocate the 16 regional representative seats
> > proportionally to the Green Party membership in
> each
> > region. This calculation shall be performed by the
> > outgoing Liaison to the Secretary of State (Larry
> > Cafiero) according to the Method of Equal
> Proportions
> > described in the appendix to the GPCA bylaws.
> > 
> > c. All regions shall announce new elections to
> fill
> > the
> > regional representative seats as soon as possible.
> > Regions must hold open, transparent elections with
> at
> > least 3 weeks notice distributed as widely as
> possible
> > in the region. Notice of upcoming regional
> > representative vacancies shall be posted to the
> county
> > contacts list as soon as possible after passage of
> > this proposal. Regions without alternate processes
> may
> > adopt temporary alternate processes for the
> purpose of
> > filling the seats in a timely manner.
> > 
> > d. No one who has served on the CC, or who has
> claimed
> > to serve on the CC, as representative or
> alternate,
> > over the course of the past 5 years, is eligible
> to
> > run for or fill any representative or alternate
> seat
> > on the CC for the next 2 years.
> > 
> > e.Transitional term lengths shall be varied in
> order
> > to stagger the ending dates. This depends on the
> new
> > apportionment by the Liaison, but end dates of the
> > transitional terms would be expected to fall as
> > follows:
> > 
> > Even-Numbered Years
> > 1 Emerald	January 2008
> > 2 At-large 	spring GA 2008
> > 1 San Francisco	May 2008
> > 1 Silicon	June 2008
> > 1 East Bay	July 2008
> > 3 Los Angeles	November 2008
> > 1 San Diego/Imperial	August 2008
> > 1 ORSB	November 2008
> > 
> > Odd-Numbered Years
> > 2 At-large	spring GA 2009
> > 2 Central	May 2009
> > 1 North Bay	May 2009
> > 1 East Bay	July 2009
> > 1 Monterey Bay	August 2009
> > 1 Central Coast	August 2009
> > 1 ORSB	November 2009
> > 
> > II.CC Facilitation Guidelines GPCA CC meeting
> > facilitation shall proceed according to the
> following
> > guidelines:
> > 
> > a.Proposals for CC meetings must be posted to the
> CC
> > listserv at least one week in advance of a
> scheduled
> > meeting.
> > 
> > b. CC meeting agendas shall be approved by the CC
> > prior to or at the beginning of a meeting, with a
> > simple majority threshold for approval. 
> > 
> > c. Changes in announced facilitation require a
> simple
> > majority threshold for approval.
> > 
> > d. Adding time to an agenda item or altering the
> > approved agenda requires a simple majority
> approval of
> > the CC. 
> > 
> > e. Adding a last minute item that was not
> submitted to
> > the CC list one week prior to the meeting requires
> a
> > 2/3 threshold.
> > 
> > f. The CC prefers to discuss decision items on
> > teleconferences and at in-person meetings. If an
> item
> > is discussed at a meeting and scheduled for an
> online
> > vote, the threshold for that vote is the same as
> if
> > the vote had occurred during the meeting (2/3 for
> > regular meetings, 80% for a special meeting not
> > scheduled at a prior meeting at least a week in
> > advance). If an item goes to an online vote
> without
> > being discussed at a meeting, it has an 80%
> threshold.
> > 
> > g. Decisions may not be made after the regularly
> > scheduled adjournment time of the meeting unless a
> > majority (over half) decides to extend the call
> for a
> > specific amount of time. Decisions must then be
> made
> > within the time of the approved extension.
> > 
> > h. Simple majority approval votes on basic
> > facilitation decisions can be done by asking
> quickly
> > for "ayes" and "nays," and only going to a roll
> call
> > if approval is unclear.
> > 
> > i. The new CC is requested to hire a Secretary to
> take
> > thorough minutes of meetings, post them to the CC
> > list, amend them according to posted corrections,
> and
> > post the final version to both the CC listserv and
> the
> > archive of minutes. The new CC shall draft a job
> > description and hiring criteria for this position.
> > 
> > j. The new CC shall form a schedule of its basic
> tasks
> > that follow from the GPCA bylaws and integrate
> this
> > schedule with the 2-year GPCA work plan, when it
> is
> > adopted.
> > 
> > TIMELINE: 
> > Vacancies effective upon passage. Elections may
> take
> > place starting 2 weeks after passage of this
> proposal.
> > Elected CC members may meet on teleconferences but
> may
> > not make any decisions until a quorum of 14 is
> > achieved. 
> > 
> > RESOURCES:  Hiring a Secretary will require the CC
> > budgeting funds for this.
> > 
> > ___________________
> > 
> > JamBoi: Jammy, The Sacred Cow Slayer
> > The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
> > http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> > 
> > "To the brave belong all things"
> > Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans
> around 400BC
> > 
> > "Live humbly, laugh often and love
> unconditionally" (anon)
> > 
> > 
> >  
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From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 23:43:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GP-US Help Wanted: Website Manager
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Help Wanted

Job Title: Website Manager

Job Description
Responsible for maintaining and updating the website
for the Green Party of the United States. This is a
part-time contractor position.

Job Tasks
Working with the staff and Steering Committee of the
Green Party, the website manager will ensure timely
posting of all materials on the website, including
press releases, news items, candidate news and
promotions, multimedia files, email and take action
campaigns, and all other related functions of the
website. Specifically, the website manager will also
be responsible for overseeing the re-building of the
current website design within a Content Management
System.

Required Skills
XHTML/CSS and other webpage programming skills such as
perl, PHP, Javascript and other related scripting
languages; mySQL and/or other database applications;
Experience using and customizing Content Management
Software; Experience maintaining a website for a
medium-to-large sized organization; Ability to manage
multiple tasks and work as an intermediary between
several different persons and organizational
functions; Some professional experience with graphic
design and marketing is a definite plus

Please send a resume and an optional cover letter to office at gp.org

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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue May 29 07:25:46 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:25:46 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Read This & Weep - CINDY SHEEHAN
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Posted on The Daily Kos, Monday, May 28, 2007.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/28/12530/1525




"Good
Riddance Attention Whore"

by Cindy Sheehan 



I
have endured a lot of smear and hatred since Casey was killed and especially
since I became the so-called "Face" of the American anti-war
movement. Especially since I renounced any tie I have remaining with the
Democratic Party, I have been further trashed on such "liberal blogs"
as the Democratic Underground. Being called an "attention whore" and
being told "good riddance" are some of the more milder rebukes.



I
have come to some heartbreaking conclusions this Memorial Day Morning. These
are not spur of the moment reflections, but things I have been meditating on
for about a year now. The conclusions that I have slowly and very reluctantly
come to are very heartbreaking to me.









The
first conclusion is that I was the darling of the so-called left as long as I
limited my protests to George Bush and the Republican Party. Of course, I was
slandered and libeled by the right as a "tool" of the Democratic
Party. ?This label was to marginalize me and my message. How could a woman
have an original thought, or be working outside of our "two-party"
system??? 



However,
when I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held
the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode and the
"left" started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used. I
guess no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue of peace and
people dying for no reason is not a matter of "right or left", but
"right and wrong."



I
am deemed a radical because I believe that partisan politics should be left to
the wayside when hundreds of thousands of people are dying for a war based on
lies that is supported by Democrats and Republican alike. It amazes me that
people who are sharp on the issues and can zero in like a laser beam on lies,
misrepresentations, and political expediency when it comes to one party refuse
to recognize it in their own party. Blind party loyalty is dangerous whatever
side it occurs on. People of the world look on us Americans as jokes because we
allow our political leaders so much murderous latitude and if we don?t find alternatives
to this corrupt "two" party system our Representative Republic will
die and be replaced with what we are rapidly descending into with nary a check
or balance: a fascist corporate wasteland. I am demonized because I don?t see
party affiliation or nationality when I look at a person, I see that person?s
heart. If someone looks, dresses, acts, talks and votes like a Republican, then
why do they deserve support just because he/she calls him/herself a Democrat?



I
have also reached the conclusion that if I am doing what I am doing because I
am an "attention whore" then I really need to be committed. I have
invested everything I have into trying to bring peace with justice to a country
that wants neither. If an individual wants both, then normally he/she is not
willing to do more than walk in a protest march or sit behind his/her computer
criticizing others. I have spent every available cent I got from the money a
"grateful" country gave me when they killed my son and every penny
that I have received in speaking or book fees since then. I have sacrificed a
29 year marriage and have traveled for extended periods of time away from
Casey?s brother and sisters and my health has suffered and my hospital bills
from last summer (when I almost died) are in collection because I have used all
my energy trying to stop this country from slaughtering innocent human beings.
I have been called every despicable name that small minds can think of and have
had my life threatened many times.



The
most devastating conclusion that I reached this morning, however, was that
Casey did indeed die for nothing. His precious lifeblood drained out in a
country far away from his family who loves him, killed by his own country which
is beholden to and run by a war machine that even controls what we think. I
have tried every since he died to make his sacrifice meaningful. Casey died for
a country which cares more about who will be the next American Idol than how
many people will be killed in the next few months while Democrats and Republicans
play politics with human lives. It is so painful to me to know that I bought
into this system for so many years and Casey paid the price for that
allegiance. I failed my boy and that hurts the most.



I
have also tried to work within a peace movement that often puts personal egos
above peace and human life. This group won?t work with that group; he won?t
attend an event if she is going to be there; and why does Cindy Sheehan get all
the attention anyway? It is hard to work for peace when the very movement that
is named after it has so many divisions.



Our
brave young men and women in Iraq have been abandoned there indefinitely by
their cowardly leaders who move them around like pawns on a chessboard of
destruction and the people of Iraq have been doomed to death and fates worse
than death by people worried more about elections than people. However, in
five, ten, or fifteen years, our troops will come limping home in another
abject defeat and ten or twenty years from then, our children?s children will
be seeing their loved ones die for no reason, because their grandparents also
bought into this corrupt system. George Bush will never be impeached because if
the Democrats dig too deeply, they may unearth a few skeletons in their own
graves and the system will perpetuate itself in perpetuity.



I
am going to take whatever I have left and go home. I am going to go home and be
a mother to my surviving children and try to regain some of what I have lost. I
will try to maintain and nurture some very positive relationships that I have
found in the journey that I was forced into when Casey died and try to repair
some of the ones that have fallen apart since I began this single-minded
crusade to try and change a paradigm that is now, I am afraid, carved in
immovable, unbendable and rigidly mendacious marble.



Camp
Casey has served its purpose. It?s for sale. Anyone want to buy five beautiful
acres in Crawford , Texas ? I will consider any reasonable offer. I hear George
Bush will be moving out soon, too...which makes the property even more
valuable.



This
is my resignation letter as the "face" of the American anti-war
movement. This is not my "Checkers" moment, because I will never give
up trying to help people in the world who are harmed by the empire of the good
old US of A, but I am finished working in, or outside of this system. This
system forcefully resists being helped and eats up the people who try to help
it. I am getting out before it totally consumes me or anymore people that I
love and the rest of my resources.



Good-bye
America ...you are not the country that I love and I finally realized no matter
how much I sacrifice, I can?t make you be that country unless you want it.



It?s
up to you now.



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From egroups at duendevision.com  Tue May 29 07:53:34 2007
From: egroups at duendevision.com (Duende)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 07:53:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Read This & Weep - CINDY SHEEHAN
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Alex

I've been weeping for a decade. Most people who are on this, yourself  
included wept decades ago...yet they still keep stepping up and  
valiantly doing battle with windmills.ce

Duende


Pea
On May 29, 2007, at 7:25 AM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote:

> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> Posted on The Daily Kos, Monday, May 28, 2007.
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/28/12530/1525
> "Good Riddance Attention Whore"
> by Cindy Sheehan
> I have endured a lot of smear and hatred since Casey was killed and  
> especially since I became the so-called "Face" of the American anti- 
> war movement. Especially since I renounced any tie I have remaining  
> with the Democratic Party, I have been further trashed on such  
> "liberal blogs" as the Democratic Underground. Being called an  
> "attention whore" and being told "good riddance" are some of the  
> more milder rebukes.
> I have come to some heartbreaking conclusions this Memorial Day  
> Morning. These are not spur of the moment reflections, but things I  
> have been meditating on for about a year now. The conclusions that  
> I have slowly and very reluctantly come to are very heartbreaking  
> to me.
> The first conclusion is that I was the darling of the so-called  
> left as long as I limited my protests to George Bush and the  
> Republican Party. Of course, I was slandered and libeled by the  
> right as a "tool" of the Democratic Party.  This label was to  
> marginalize me and my message. How could a woman have an original  
> thought, or be working outside of our "two-party" system?
> However, when I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same  
> standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause  
> started to erode and the "left" started labeling me with the same  
> slurs that the right used. I guess no one paid attention to me when  
> I said that the issue of peace and people dying for no reason is  
> not a matter of "right or left", but "right and wrong."
> I am deemed a radical because I believe that partisan politics  
> should be left to the wayside when hundreds of thousands of people  
> are dying for a war based on lies that is supported by Democrats  
> and Republican alike. It amazes me that people who are sharp on the  
> issues and can zero in like a laser beam on lies,  
> misrepresentations, and political expediency when it comes to one  
> party refuse to recognize it in their own party. Blind party  
> loyalty is dangerous whatever side it occurs on. People of the  
> world look on us Americans as jokes because we allow our political  
> leaders so much murderous latitude and if we don?t find  
> alternatives to this corrupt "two" party system our Representative  
> Republic will die and be replaced with what we are rapidly  
> descending into with nary a check or balance: a fascist corporate  
> wasteland. I am demonized because I don?t see party affiliation or  
> nationality when I look at a person, I see that person?s heart. If  
> someone looks, dresses, acts, talks and votes like a Republican,  
> then why do they deserve support just because he/she calls him/ 
> herself a Democrat?
> I have also reached the conclusion that if I am doing what I am  
> doing because I am an "attention whore" then I really need to be  
> committed. I have invested everything I have into trying to bring  
> peace with justice to a country that wants neither. If an  
> individual wants both, then normally he/she is not willing to do  
> more than walk in a protest march or sit behind his/her computer  
> criticizing others. I have spent every available cent I got from  
> the money a "grateful" country gave me when they killed my son and  
> every penny that I have received in speaking or book fees since  
> then. I have sacrificed a 29 year marriage and have traveled for  
> extended periods of time away from Casey?s brother and sisters and  
> my health has suffered and my hospital bills from last summer (when  
> I almost died) are in collection because I have used all my energy  
> trying to stop this country from slaughtering innocent human  
> beings. I have been called every despicable name that small minds  
> can think of and have had my life threatened many times.
> The most devastating conclusion that I reached this morning,  
> however, was that Casey did indeed die for nothing. His precious  
> lifeblood drained out in a country far away from his family who  
> loves him, killed by his own country which is beholden to and run  
> by a war machine that even controls what we think. I have tried  
> every since he died to make his sacrifice meaningful. Casey died  
> for a country which cares more about who will be the next American  
> Idol than how many people will be killed in the next few months  
> while Democrats and Republicans play politics with human lives. It  
> is so painful to me to know that I bought into this system for so  
> many years and Casey paid the price for that allegiance. I failed  
> my boy and that hurts the most.
> I have also tried to work within a peace movement that often puts  
> personal egos above peace and human life. This group won?t work  
> with that group; he won?t attend an event if she is going to be  
> there; and why does Cindy Sheehan get all the attention anyway? It  
> is hard to work for peace when the very movement that is named  
> after it has so many divisions.
> Our brave young men and women in Iraq have been abandoned there  
> indefinitely by their cowardly leaders who move them around like  
> pawns on a chessboard of destruction and the people of Iraq have  
> been doomed to death and fates worse than death by people worried  
> more about elections than people. However, in five, ten, or fifteen  
> years, our troops will come limping home in another abject defeat  
> and ten or twenty years from then, our children?s children will be  
> seeing their loved ones die for no reason, because their  
> grandparents also bought into this corrupt system. George Bush will  
> never be impeached because if the Democrats dig too deeply, they  
> may unearth a few skeletons in their own graves and the system will  
> perpetuate itself in perpetuity.
> I am going to take whatever I have left and go home. I am going to  
> go home and be a mother to my surviving children and try to regain  
> some of what I have lost. I will try to maintain and nurture some  
> very positive relationships that I have found in the journey that I  
> was forced into when Casey died and try to repair some of the ones  
> that have fallen apart since I began this single-minded crusade to  
> try and change a paradigm that is now, I am afraid, carved in  
> immovable, unbendable and rigidly mendacious marble.
> Camp Casey has served its purpose. It?s for sale. Anyone want to  
> buy five beautiful acres in Crawford , Texas ? I will consider any  
> reasonable offer. I hear George Bush will be moving out soon,  
> too...which makes the property even more valuable.
> This is my resignation letter as the "face" of the American anti- 
> war movement. This is not my "Checkers" moment, because I will  
> never give up trying to help people in the world who are harmed by  
> the empire of the good old US of A, but I am finished working in,  
> or outside of this system. This system forcefully resists being  
> helped and eats up the people who try to help it. I am getting out  
> before it totally consumes me or anymore people that I love and the  
> rest of my resources.
> Good-bye America ...you are not the country that I love and I  
> finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice, I can?t make you  
> be that country unless you want it.
> It?s up to you now.
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May 29 08:43:05 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Read This & Weep - CINDY SHEEHAN
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Seems to me it just goes to show that it has always
needed to be a broad-based effort.  Our human
mentality and probably even more so in America is that
we latch onto individuals, turn them into symbolic
celebrities and then expect them to carry the load. 
It doesn't work that way.

I heard Pastor Rick Warren (author of 'The Purpose
Driven Life') say in America we have a "pray, pay and
stay out of the way" attitude.  In other words we
expect to be able to hire mercenary gunslingers to do
our hard work for us.   Very true!  We have to break
this attitude and learn to all participate in
Grassroots Democracy.  Direct Democracy.

Speaking symbolically if there are potholes in our
city, why do we wait for the politicians to do
something about it.  Let's get up off our collective
couches and connect with other fellow citizens, and
start figuring out how we are going to address the
problems.

We Greens are in an especially key position to lead
the way on this.  I suggest we start by getting our
own house in order.  This last weekend's plenary amply
demonstrated how dysfunctional our own party is.  We
need to work together to get it into a functional
state so that we can lead the rest of our society into
a saner way of problem solving and self governance.

And even closer to home we need to really get our
locals up and running!  That is where we'll be able to
get truly local issues addressed, precincts walked and
Greens elected. Let's put our heads together on what
we can do to get our GPCA act together.  After all,
its the GPCA that we'd be asking Cindy Sheehan to
join!!!

Organize, Energize, Coalize!

Drew

--- Duende <egroups at duendevision.com> wrote:

> Alex
> 
> I've been weeping for a decade. Most people who are
> on this, yourself  
> included wept decades ago...yet they still keep
> stepping up and  
> valiantly doing battle with windmills.ce
> 
> Duende
> 
> 
> Pea
> On May 29, 2007, at 7:25 AM, alexcathy at aol.com
> wrote:
> 
> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> = = = = = = =
> > Posted on The Daily Kos, Monday, May 28, 2007.
> > http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/28/12530/1525
> > "Good Riddance Attention Whore"
> > by Cindy Sheehan
> > I have endured a lot of smear and hatred since
> Casey was killed and  
> > especially since I became the so-called "Face" of
> the American anti- 
> > war movement. Especially since I renounced any tie
> I have remaining  
> > with the Democratic Party, I have been further
> trashed on such  
> > "liberal blogs" as the Democratic Underground.
> Being called an  
> > "attention whore" and being told "good riddance"
> are some of the  
> > more milder rebukes.
> > I have come to some heartbreaking conclusions this
> Memorial Day  
> > Morning. These are not spur of the moment
> reflections, but things I  
> > have been meditating on for about a year now. The
> conclusions that  
> > I have slowly and very reluctantly come to are
> very heartbreaking  
> > to me.
> > The first conclusion is that I was the darling of
> the so-called  
> > left as long as I limited my protests to George
> Bush and the  
> > Republican Party. Of course, I was slandered and
> libeled by the  
> > right as a "tool" of the Democratic Party.  This
> label was to  
> > marginalize me and my message. How could a woman
> have an original  
> > thought, or be working outside of our "two-party"
> system?
> > However, when I started to hold the Democratic
> Party to the same  
> > standards that I held the Republican Party,
> support for my cause  
> > started to erode and the "left" started labeling
> me with the same  
> > slurs that the right used. I guess no one paid
> attention to me when  
> > I said that the issue of peace and people dying
> for no reason is  
> > not a matter of "right or left", but "right and
> wrong."
> > I am deemed a radical because I believe that
> partisan politics  
> > should be left to the wayside when hundreds of
> thousands of people  
> > are dying for a war based on lies that is
> supported by Democrats  
> > and Republican alike. It amazes me that people who
> are sharp on the  
> > issues and can zero in like a laser beam on lies, 
> 
> > misrepresentations, and political expediency when
> it comes to one  
> > party refuse to recognize it in their own party.
> Blind party  
> > loyalty is dangerous whatever side it occurs on.
> People of the  
> > world look on us Americans as jokes because we
> allow our political  
> > leaders so much murderous latitude and if we don?t
> find  
> > alternatives to this corrupt "two" party system
> our Representative  
> > Republic will die and be replaced with what we are
> rapidly  
> > descending into with nary a check or balance: a
> fascist corporate  
> > wasteland. I am demonized because I don?t see
> party affiliation or  
> > nationality when I look at a person, I see that
> person?s heart. If  
> > someone looks, dresses, acts, talks and votes like
> a Republican,  
> > then why do they deserve support just because
> he/she calls him/ 
> > herself a Democrat?
> > I have also reached the conclusion that if I am
> doing what I am  
> > doing because I am an "attention whore" then I
> really need to be  
> > committed. I have invested everything I have into
> trying to bring  
> > peace with justice to a country that wants
> neither. If an  
> > individual wants both, then normally he/she is not
> willing to do  
> > more than walk in a protest march or sit behind
> his/her computer  
> > criticizing others. I have spent every available
> cent I got from  
> > the money a "grateful" country gave me when they
> killed my son and  
> > every penny that I have received in speaking or
> book fees since  
> > then. I have sacrificed a 29 year marriage and
> have traveled for  
> > extended periods of time away from Casey?s brother
> and sisters and  
> > my health has suffered and my hospital bills from
> last summer (when  
> > I almost died) are in collection because I have
> used all my energy  
> > trying to stop this country from slaughtering
> innocent human  
> > beings. I have been called every despicable name
> that small minds  
> > can think of and have had my life threatened many
> times.
> > The most devastating conclusion that I reached
> this morning,  
> > however, was that Casey did indeed die for
> nothing. His precious  
> > lifeblood drained out in a country far away from
> his family who  
> > loves him, killed by his own country which is
> beholden to and run  
> > by a war machine that even controls what we think.
> I have tried  
> > every since he died to make his sacrifice
> meaningful. Casey died  
> > for a country which cares more about who will be
> the next American  
> > Idol than how many people will be killed in the
> next few months  
> > while Democrats and Republicans play politics with
> human lives. It  
> > is so painful to me to know that I bought into
> this system for so  
> > many years and Casey paid the price for that
> allegiance. I failed  
> > my boy and that hurts the most.
> > I have also tried to work within a peace movement
> that often puts  
> > personal egos above peace and human life. This
> group won?t work  
> > with that group; he won?t attend an event if she
> is going to be  
> > there; and why does Cindy Sheehan get all the
> attention anyway? It  
> > is hard to work for peace when the very movement
> that is named  
> > after it has so many divisions.
> > Our brave young men and women in Iraq have been
> abandoned there  
> > indefinitely by their cowardly leaders who move
> them around like  
> > pawns on a chessboard of destruction and the
> people of Iraq have  
> > been doomed to death and fates worse than death by
> people worried  
> > more about elections than people. However, in
> five, ten, or fifteen  
> > years, our troops will come limping home in
> another abject defeat  
> > and ten or twenty years from then, our children?s
> children will be  
> > seeing their loved ones die for no reason, because
> their  
> > grandparents also bought into this corrupt system.
> George Bush will  
> > never be impeached because if the Democrats dig
> too deeply, they  
> > may unearth a few skeletons in their own graves
> and the system will  
> > perpetuate itself in perpetuity.
> > I am going to take whatever I have left and go
> home. I am going to  
> > go home and be a mother to my surviving children
> and try to regain  
> > some of what I have lost. I will try to maintain
> and nurture some  
> > very positive relationships that I have found in
> the journey that I  
> > was forced into when Casey died and try to repair
> some of the ones  
> > that have fallen apart since I began this
> single-minded crusade to  
> > try and change a paradigm that is now, I am
> afraid, carved in  
> > immovable, unbendable and rigidly mendacious
> marble.
> > Camp Casey has served its purpose. It?s for sale.
> Anyone want to  
> > buy five beautiful acres in Crawford , Texas ? I
> will consider any  
> > reasonable offer. I hear George Bush will be
> moving out soon,  
> > too...which makes the property even more valuable.
> > This is my resignation letter as the "face" of the
> American anti- 
> > war movement. This is not my "Checkers" moment,
> because I will  
> > never give up trying to help people in the world
> who are harmed by  
> > the empire of the good old US of A, but I am
> finished working in,  
> > or outside of this system. This system forcefully
> resists being  
> > helped and eats up the people who try to help it.
> I am getting out  
> > before it totally consumes me or anymore people
> that I love and the  
> > rest of my resources.
> > Good-bye America ...you are not the country that I
> love and I  
> > finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice, I
> can?t make you  
> > be that country unless you want it.
> > It?s up to you now.

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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue May 29 10:16:08 2007
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:16:08 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney on possible Green run
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20070529072151.04402800@mail.ucla.edu>
References: <6.2.3.4.2.20070529072151.04402800@mail.ucla.edu>
Message-ID: <8C9702C2E9D0702-FDC-83CC@FWM-M30.sysops.aol.com>


 Dear Green Friends, 



I am disappointed with this statement by Cynthia McKinney.? Frankly, I do not know why Cynthia is being so coy
about this.? I can't believe that after all she has been through she's still mulling a "relationship" with the Democratic Party.? 


Get a divorce, Cynthia!? 


Each individual must travel her or his own path and we all understand this.? Nevertheless, at this stage of the game I am starting to get impatient even with some people inside the Greens who can't quite get their brains around the fact that WE ARE an independent political party.? I fear that some of our messy internal disputes have something to do with people thinking of us as an "interest group" rather than a "political party."? If you are an "interest group" then you fight like hell over policy details because influencing policy is the main thing interests groups do.? Thus, for example, when I was active with the San Jose Peace Center, we had intense debates over how to handle the Palestinian-Israeli question.? Early in the war we had fights over the relationship of the San Jose Peace Center with International A.N.S.W.E.R.? Those fights were painful but necessary because, after all, agitating for peace is the main work of a peace center.? 

On the other hand, if you are a "political party", then recruiting and training good candidates, contesting elections, framing your differences with the other guys, and ACTUALLY GOVERNING is the main thing.? If you are the Green Party it's not important that some people like bicycles and some people like electric cars.? The main thing is getting people into office committed to breaking the addiction to oil.? 


For six months I've been saying "It's too early to talk about 2008!"? Well, as we go into a summer of heavy politicking it is no longer too early.?? I like Cynthia McKinney so I guess I need to write her a letter urging her to quit the Democrats, register Green, and make a commitment to the Green Party. I would like her to come back to Los Angeles and campaign for Daniel Brezenoff in California's 37th Congressional District.? 

Get a divorce, Cynthia!



Alex Walker 



 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Que Hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
To: gplac-forum at cagreens.org
Sent: Tue, 29 May 2007 7:22 am
Subject: [GPLAC-Forum] McKinney on possible Green run in 2008; Memorial Day speech in  Georgia











>Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
>Subject: McKinney on possible Green run in 2008; 
>Memorial Day speech in Georgia
>
>
>Cynthia McKinney Radio Interview Asks About
>Potential of Her Being Green Candidate for
>President
>
>Ballot Access News
>Edited by Richard Winger
>May 28th, 2007
>http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/05/28/cynthia-mckinney-radio-interview-asks-about-potential-of-her-being-green-candidate-for-president/
>
>On May 25, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney
>participated in a 23-minute interview on Radio
>Station WBAI. The hosts asked her about the
>possibility that she may seek the Green Party
>presidential nomination in 2008. She said, ?With
>the failure of the Democratic Congress to repeal
>the Patriot Act, the Secret Evidence Act, the
>Military Tribunals Act, I have to seriously
>question my relationship with the Democratic
>Party. The idea has not been ruled out. All the
>current Democrats running for president support
>the principle of potential military action
>against Iran; none of them is for impeachment of
>the President. They can?t speak for me. I am open
>to a lot of ideas in 2008.? Thanks to Darcy
>Richardson for this news.
>
>
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Tue May 29 10:27:06 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney on possible Green run
In-Reply-To: <8C9702C2E9D0702-FDC-83CC@FWM-M30.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <14936.82984.qm@web52206.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Unfortunately this is the path she's been taking for
years now.  The Georgia Greens have been trying
literally for years to talk her into switching. 
Frankly I don't think she'll come over.  Too bad. 
However there are other good potential candidates out
there who will actually join the Green Party (a prereq
for being a Green Candidate!)  So we need to let her
go and move on.

Green Power: Organize, Energize, Coalize!

Drew

--- alexcathy at aol.com wrote:

> 
>  Dear Green Friends, 
> 
> 
> 
> I am disappointed with this statement by Cynthia
> McKinney.?  Frankly, I do not know why Cynthia is
> being so coy
> about this.?  I can't believe that after all she has
> been through she's still mulling a "relationship"
> with the Democratic Party.?  
> 
> 
> Get a divorce, Cynthia!?  
> 
> 
> Each individual must travel her or his own path and
> we all understand this.?  Nevertheless, at this
> stage of the game I am starting to get impatient
> even with some people inside the Greens who can't
> quite get their brains around the fact that WE ARE
> an independent political party.?  I fear that some
> of our messy internal disputes have something to do
> with people thinking of us as an "interest group"
> rather than a "political party."?  If you are an
> "interest group" then you fight like hell over
> policy details because influencing policy is the
> main thing interests groups do.?  Thus, for example,
> when I was active with the San Jose Peace Center, we
> had intense debates over how to handle the
> Palestinian-Israeli question.?  Early in the war we
> had fights over the relationship of the San Jose
> Peace Center with International A.N.S.W.E.R.?  Those
> fights were painful but necessary because, after
> all, agitating for peace is the main work of a peace
> center.?  
> 
> On the other hand, if you are a "political party",
> then recruiting and training good candidates,
> contesting elections, framing your differences with
> the other guys, and ACTUALLY GOVERNING is the main
> thing.?  If you are the Green Party it's not
> important that some people like bicycles and some
> people like electric cars.?  The main thing is
> getting people into office committed to breaking the
> addiction to oil.?  
> 
> 
> For six months I've been saying "It's too early to
> talk about 2008!"?  Well, as we go into a summer of
> heavy politicking it is no longer too early.? ?  I
> like Cynthia McKinney so I guess I need to write her
> a letter urging her to quit the Democrats, register
> Green, and make a commitment to the Green Party. I
> would like her to come back to Los Angeles and
> campaign for Daniel Brezenoff in California's 37th
> Congressional District.?  
> 
> Get a divorce, Cynthia!
> 
> 
> 
> Alex Walker 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Que Hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
> To: gplac-forum at cagreens.org
> Sent: Tue, 29 May 2007 7:22 am
> Subject: [GPLAC-Forum] McKinney on possible Green
> run in 2008; Memorial Day speech in  Georgia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: McKinney on possible Green run in 2008; 
> >Memorial Day speech in Georgia
> >
> >
> >Cynthia McKinney Radio Interview Asks About
> >Potential of Her Being Green Candidate for
> >President
> >
> >Ballot Access News
> >Edited by Richard Winger
> >May 28th, 2007
>
>http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/05/28/cynthia-mckinney-radio-interview-asks-about-potential-of-her-being-green-candidate-for-president/
> >
> >On May 25, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney
> >participated in a 23-minute interview on Radio
> >Station WBAI. The hosts asked her about the
> >possibility that she may seek the Green Party
> >presidential nomination in 2008. She said, ???With
> >the failure of the Democratic Congress to repeal
> >the Patriot Act, the Secret Evidence Act, the
> >Military Tribunals Act, I have to seriously
> >question my relationship with the Democratic
> >Party. The idea has not been ruled out. All the
> >current Democrats running for president support
> >the principle of potential military action
> >against Iran; none of them is for impeachment of
> >the President. They can???t speak for me. I am open
> >to a lot of ideas in 2008.??? Thanks to Darcy
> >Richardson for this news.
> >
> >
> >*  *  *  *  *
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>
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From wechslertoo at earthlink.net  Tue May 29 10:36:06 2007
From: wechslertoo at earthlink.net (Curt Wechsler)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:36:06 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Re:  McKinney on possible Green run
Message-ID: <410-22007522917366515@earthlink.net>

Cynthia's not "mulling a 'relationship'" wth the Democratic Party... she's challenging the Greens to get off their collective asses.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: 
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Sent: 5/29/2007 10:16:33 AM 
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney on possible Green run


Dear Green Friends, 

I am disappointed with this statement by Cynthia McKinney.  Frankly, I do not know why Cynthia is being so coy about this.  I can't believe that after all she has been through she's still mulling a "relationship" with the Democratic Party.  

Get a divorce, Cynthia!  

Each individual must travel her or his own path and we all understand this.  Nevertheless, at this stage of the game I am starting to get impatient even with some people inside the Greens who can't quite get their brains around the fact that WE ARE an independent political party.  I fear that some of our messy internal disputes have something to do with people thinking of us as an "interest group" rather than a "political party."  If you are an "interest group" then you fight like hell over policy details because influencing policy is the main thing interests groups do.  Thus, for example, when I was active with the San Jose Peace Center, we had intense debates over how to handle the Palestinian-Israeli question.  Early in the war we had fights over the relationship of the San Jose Peace Center with International A.N.S.W.E.R.  Those fights were painful but necessary because, after all, agitating for peace is the main work of a peace center.  

On the other hand, if you are a "political party", then recruiting and training good candidates, contesting elections, framing your differences with the other guys, and ACTUALLY GOVERNING is the main thing.  If you are the Green Party it's not important that some people like bicycles and some people like electric cars.  The main thing is getting people into office committed to breaking the addiction to oil.  

For six months I've been saying "It's too early to talk about 2008!"  Well, as we go into a summer of heavy politicking it is no longer too early.   I like Cynthia McKinney so I guess I need to write her a letter urging her to quit the Democrats, register Green, and make a commitment to the Green Party. I would like her to come back to Los Angeles and campaign for Daniel Brezenoff in California's 37th Congressional District.  

Get a divorce, Cynthia!


Alex Walker 





-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Que Hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
To: gplac-forum at cagreens.org
Sent: Tue, 29 May 2007 7:22 am
Subject: [GPLAC-Forum] McKinney on possible Green run in 2008; Memorial Day speech in Georgia



>Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 06:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
>Subject: McKinney on possible Green run in 2008; 
>Memorial Day speech in Georgia
>
>
>Cynthia McKinney Radio Interview Asks About
>Potential of Her Being Green Candidate for
>President
>
>Ballot Access News
>Edited by Richard Winger
>May 28th, 2007
>http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/05/28/cynthia-mckinney-radio-interview-asks-about-potential-of-her-being-green-candidate-for-president/
>
>On May 25, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney
>participated in a 23-minute interview on Radio
>Station WBAI. The hosts asked her about the
>possibility that she may seek the Green Party
>presidential nomination in 2008. She said, ???With
>the failure of the Democratic Congress to repeal
>the Patriot Act, the Secret Evidence Act, the
>Military Tribunals Act, I have to seriously
>question my relationship with the Democratic
>Party. The idea has not been ruled out. All the
>current Democrats running for president support
>the principle of potential military action
>against Iran; none of them is for impeachment of
>the President. They can???t speak for me. I am open
>to a lot of ideas in 2008.??? Thanks to Darcy
>Richardson for this news.
>
>
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>




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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue May 29 12:36:34 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:36:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] In the News
Message-ID: <465C80C2.7000000@earthlink.net>


"Democrats in Washington Want To Keep Impeachment Off The Table"

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/29/1516/

I know, I know, no news in the above title.  And in fact,
no major new news in the article.  But I provide it just in
case you would be interested in the details.


	-	-	-	-	-	-


"The Republican Plan For 2008 Begins Today"

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/29/1500/

Thom Hartman argues that the Republicans are playing
a much smarter game than the Democrats.


	-	-	-	-	-	-


"Good Riddance Attention Whore"

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/29/1495/

Cindy Sheehan's resignation letter.

(Same as what Alex emailed earlier.)


Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue May 29 12:37:37 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:37:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Read This & Weep - CINDY SHEEHAN
References: <859180.47797.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <465C8101.2080604@earthlink.net>



JamBoi wrote:

> Seems to me it just goes to show that it has always
> needed to be a broad-based effort.  Our human
> mentality and probably even more so in America is that
> we latch onto individuals, turn them into symbolic
> celebrities and then expect them to carry the load. 
> It doesn't work that way.


I have some quibbles with what you say here, but I
basically agree.


> 
> I heard Pastor Rick Warren (author of 'The Purpose
> Driven Life') say in America we have a "pray, pay and
> stay out of the way" attitude.  In other words we
> expect to be able to hire mercenary gunslingers to do
> our hard work for us.   Very true!  We have to break
> this attitude and learn to all participate in
> Grassroots Democracy.  Direct Democracy.


When I compare how many people in history have risked
their lives to fight their own governments for what
they believe in, and how Americans won't fight when
it is relatively safe, I really wonder what is going on.
One possible explanation I have heard is that Madison
Avenue (advertising / PR firms) have perfected propoganda
way past the Nazis.  But still ...


> 
> Speaking symbolically if there are potholes in our
> city, why do we wait for the politicians to do
> something about it.  Let's get up off our collective
> couches and connect with other fellow citizens, and
> start figuring out how we are going to address the
> problems.


I wish it was that simple.


> 
> We Greens are in an especially key position to lead
> the way on this.  I suggest we start by getting our
> own house in order.  


I agree with that.

> This last weekend's plenary amply
> demonstrated how dysfunctional our own party is.  We
> need to work together to get it into a functional
> state so that we can lead the rest of our society into
> a saner way of problem solving and self governance.
> 
> And even closer to home we need to really get our
> locals up and running!  That is where we'll be able to
> get truly local issues addressed, precincts walked and
> Greens elected. Let's put our heads together on what
> we can do to get our GPCA act together.  After all,
> its the GPCA that we'd be asking Cindy Sheehan to
> join!!!
> 
> Organize, Energize, Coalize!
> 
> Drew


For some reason, I am reminded of what someone said
about how there are 4 things that are needed in order
to accomplish something.

- The desire to accomplish something

- The will to pursue it

- The knowledge of how to accomplish it

- The means (tools/strength/money) to accomplish it


> 
> --- Duende <egroups at duendevision.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Alex
>>
>>I've been weeping for a decade. Most people who are
>>on this, yourself  
>>included wept decades ago...yet they still keep
>>stepping up and  
>>valiantly doing battle with windmills.ce
>>
>>Duende


I am not going to weep over this.  I am just
grateful that Cindy has done what she did.
And I am glad that she showed the sense to quit
when she did.  Apparently her fight has taken a
much greater toll than one individual should
suffer.

And maybe I have more sympathy that I would if I
had not been part of the GPCA CC for 4 years.

Gerry


>>
>>
>>Pea
>>On May 29, 2007, at 7:25 AM, alexcathy at aol.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
>>>
>>= = = = = = =
>>
>>>Posted on The Daily Kos, Monday, May 28, 2007.
>>>http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/28/12530/1525
>>>"Good Riddance Attention Whore"
>>>by Cindy Sheehan
>>>I have endured a lot of smear and hatred since
>>>
>>Casey was killed and  
>>


<clip>


>>>Good-bye America ...you are not the country that I
>>>
>>love and I  
>>
>>>finally realized no matter how much I sacrifice, I
>>>
>>can't make you  
>>
>>>be that country unless you want it.
>>>It's up to you now.
>>>
> 




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue May 29 12:41:43 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:41:43 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: You say you want a revolution...]
Message-ID: <465C81F7.4090406@earthlink.net>


Anyone hear anything about this from some other source?

Gerry


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: You say you want a revolution...
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:04:54 -0700
From: "Adam Green, MoveOn.org Civic Action" <moveon-help at list.moveon.org>
To: "Gerald S. Gras" <gerrygras at earthlink.net>




Clicking here will add your name:

"The public airwaves should be used for the public good. The government
must protect our airwaves from corporate gatekeepers who would stifle
innovation and competition in the wireless Internet market."
<http://civic.moveon.org/airwaves/one_click_sign.pl?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=1>
[click here]
<http://civic.moveon.org/airwaves/o.pl?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=2>

Dear MoveOn member,

The federal government is on the verge of turning over a huge portion of
our public airwaves to companies like AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast?who
will use them for private gain instead of the public good.

These newly available airwaves are a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to
revolutionize Internet access?beaming high-speed Internet signals to
every park bench, coffee shop, workplace, and home in America at more
affordable prices than current Internet service. Phone and cable
companies don't want this competition to their Internet service?they'd
rather purchase the airwaves at auction and sit on them.1

In June, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) will make a major
decision: Use the public airwaves for the public good, or turn them over
to big companies who will stifle competition, innovation, and the
wireless Internet revolution.

The FCC is only accepting public comments for a few more days. Can you
sign this petition to them today, and send it to your friends?

"The public airwaves should be used for the public good. The government
must protect our airwaves from corporate gatekeepers who would stifle
innovation and competition in the wireless Internet market."

Sign here:
http://www.civic.moveon.org/airwaves/?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=3
<http://www.civic.moveon.org/airwaves/?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=3>


We'll deliver your petition signature and any accompanying note directly
to the FCC's public comment record, which FCC Commissioners use to guide
their decisions.

There are many innovative companies jumping at the opportunity to forge
ahead with the wireless Internet revolution?bringing us high-speed
wireless networks from coast to coast and all sorts of innovative
wireless devices. But the old phone and cable companies are aggressively
trying to block this progress. They've spent billions laying wires, and
they enjoy having their customers locked in with few alternatives.

Without access to the public airwaves, wireless innovators can't enter
the marketplace. So the strategy of companies like AT&T, Verizon, and
Comcast is to buy the administrative rights of our airwaves at
auction?and then use those rights to block competition. They also stifle
the development of new wireless devices by only letting their own
endorsed products work on their networks.

We're urging the FCC to protect the public good by setting auction rules
that prohibit this anti-competitive behavior. If the government
auctioned off the right to maintain a public highway to Ford, we would
certainly not let Ford block Toyotas from the roads.  Likewise, big
phone and cable should not be able to keep innovative companies off our
airwaves.

They also shouldn't be able to tell their wireless Internet customers
which websites they can access?as they do now. And just as phone
companies can't tell customers what phones can be plugged into a wall
jack, cell and wireless companies should not be able to dictate which
phones or wireless devices people use on their networks.

The opportunity to revolutionize the Internet and wireless world is at
our fingertips. The only question is whether our government will embrace
it, and whether regular people will fight for it.

The FCC is only accepting public comments for a few more days. Can you
sign the petition to them today, and send it to your friends?

Sign here:
http://www.civic.moveon.org/airwaves/?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=4
<http://www.civic.moveon.org/airwaves/?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=4>


Thanks for all you do.
-Adam Green, MoveOn.org Civic Action
   Tuesday, May 29th, 2007

PS?Most people haven't heard about this critical issue yet?so it's
really important that we spread the word and get others involved. As you
consider who else to tell about this issue, here's what innovation and
competition in the wireless world means for regular people:

     * Families would no longer be forced to choose solely between
       high-priced phone and cable Internet. A new wireless
       market?including lots of competition within that market?would mean
       more affordable Internet access for families.
     * Poor and rural communities which phone and cable companies never
       bothered to wire with high-speed Internet access could now have
       high-speed Internet signals beamed directly into their homes.
     * Blackberry and other handheld wireless users are currently blocked
       by phone companies from accessing Internet-based phone service and
       other innovative services.2 The FCC could stop these
       anti-competitive, anti-consumer practices by mandating wireless
       Net Neutrality.
     * Socially responsible buyers could someday go to a store, scan the
       bar codes of products with an Internet-equipped cell phone, and
       find out which items are socially responsible. Phone companies can
       currently block such innovations from working with their devices
       (they often try to shake down innovators into giving them a
       massive cut of their profits)?but the FCC can prohibit such
       practices on these newly available airwaves.
     * Technology consumers in America are currently denied all sorts of
       cutting-edge technology that people in other countries have?like
       using Internet-equipped cell phones to buy products, transfer
       money, or give to charity. By opening the doors to competition and
       innovation, the FCC can change that.

P.P.S. Can you support this people-powered campaign today? As
corporations like AT&T and Verizon spend millions to get public policy
skewed in their favor, we will win these fights because of the power of
regular people. A donation of $10, $20, or more would go a long way. You
can donate here:
https://civic.moveon.org/donatec4/creditcard.html?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=5 

<https://civic.moveon.org/donatec4/creditcard.html?id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=5>


Sources:

1. Paper describing "warehousing" of airwaves by dominant companies to
keep competition out of the market?by Simon Wilkie, Director of Center
for Communication Law and Policy at the University of Southern
California, March 26, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2594&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=6
<http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2594&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=6>

2. "Wireless Net Neutrality: Cellular Carterfone and Consumer Choice in
Mobile Broadband," Working Paper by Prof. Tim Wu, February 15, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2592&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=7
<http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2592&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=7>

Hooking Up," Prof. Tim Wu commentary in Forbes, May 18, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2627&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=8
<http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2627&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=8>

3. "Use spare spectrum for the Net; High-speed internet should be one of
the FCC's priorities as it auctions valuable airwave rights," Los
Angeles Times editorial, April 13, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2593&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=9
<http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2593&id=10433-824573-CN9rVu&t=9>

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From wechslertoo at earthlink.net  Tue May 29 13:08:54 2007
From: wechslertoo at earthlink.net (Curt Wechsler)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:08:54 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Read This & Weep - CINDY SHEEHAN
Message-ID: <410-22007522920854390@earthlink.net>

 
'I'm not giving up,' Sheehan tells radio host Schultz
05/29/2007 @ 2:09 pm
Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane

http://tinyurl.com/ywl79s 

On Tuesday, peace activist Cindy Sheehan appeared on The Ed Schultz Show to
talk about her recent declaration that she is leaving the anti-war movement.

 Sheehan starts off the radio interview sounding tired and dispirited. She
explains that she has kept pushing herself because "I can't say no,
especially when people are dying" but that the recent failure of the
Democrats to vote against the war caused her to conclude, "I think I've
gone as far as I can in this movement."

Sheehan's tone then becomes stronger and more positive as she looks to the
future, making it clear that she is not giving up activism. She says,
"We're gonna see what other direction we can come at it, because obviously
the direction that we're going has stopped being effective. ... We're gonna
close up the factory, we're gonna retool, and we're gonna see how we can
come at this problem from a different angle."

Sheehen's strongest criticism is directed at the Democratic Party. She
says, "It's all about the presidential elections, it's all about politics.
And the Democrats have to stop being careful and stop playing politics with
human flesh and blood and they're going to have to be courageous. ... If
we're gonna get a Democrat in the White House that acts like a Republican,
what's the difference?"

It is clear from the interview that Sheehan hopes that as she stands down,
millions more anti-war activists will stand up. "I'm not giving up," she
concludes, promising to announce her new campaign within the next two
months. 

 






From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue May 29 20:51:07 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:51:07 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bylaws; Web Page;
	What Are County Council Responsibilities?
Message-ID: <c8c.dd7ac1c.338e4eab@aol.com>

Jim Doyle suggested I propose a bylaws amendment re how to  choose the 
Region's GPCA CC Rep and Alternate...  Never mind that I have  been doing that 
periodically since 2003!!!   The GPSCC County Council  has the responsibility to 
receive and put such proposals on the agenda so it can  be announced and 
discussed at one meeting and then acted on at another --  basically a 60 days 
process.  'Course those bylaws also say they are  supposed to be reviewed every two 
years...  'Course, the bylaws amendment  that was approved in 2003 STILL isn't 
showing on the webpage version of the  GPSCC Bylaws...  Never mind that the 
GPSCC webpage is terribly out of date  and, even for the content that shows, 
doesn't indicate what year it is referring  to (i.e., 2006 mostly).  So... Who 
has the responsibility for being the  administrative committee for the County 
GP?  Could it be the County  Council???  Maybe check the Bylaws???   Warner



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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue May 29 20:56:55 2007
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:56:55 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Open Email to the GPSCC County Council;
	Bylaws Amendment Proposal
Message-ID: <cc6.1293967c.338e5007@aol.com>

To the GPSCC County Council:  The following is a proposal  for GPSCC Bylaws 
Amendments.  Please go read the GPSCC Bylaws to see what  you are supposed to 
do in response.  In Struggle!  Warner S. Bloomberg  III
**********************************************************
May 29, 2007 Proposal for New GPSCC (and GPSMC)  Bylaws
 
New Proposed 7.2  Choice of Regional Representative and  Alternate 
(Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties). A candidate for Regional  
Representative to the GPCA Coordinating Committee shall announce their  availability as a 
candidate on the County Party email list at least fifteen days  before the next 
meeting when a vacancy or replacement is considered.  The  candidate shall 
describe their background that supports their candidacy and  briefly describe 
her or his goals in seeking the position.  The candidate  will 
personally appear at the meeting to answer questions.  The  applicable 
meeting may be a general membership meeting, a business meeting or 
a County Council meeting -- depending on the practice in the  county.  
However, the candidacy must be announced on the agenda using the  usual practices in 
each County.  The decision will then be placed on the  agenda and made at the 
next monthly meeting. If a candidate is approved in Santa  Clara County, the 
same candidate must also be approved in San Mateo  County.  If a different 
candidate is chosen by one of these County Green  Parties, the decision must be 
retaken by both until there is agreement on 
a candidate.  The Silicon Valley Region Alternate to the  GPCA Coordinating 
Committee will be chosen by the same  procedures.  Where candidates are 
available, the Regional  Representative and the Alternate will not be from 
the same county.
 
This Bylaw Amendment will become effective upon its adoption  by 
both the Green Party of Santa Clara County and the Green Party of 
San  Mateo County and shall not be effective until adopted by both 
County Green  Parties.  Upon adoption, the County Council from each 
County Green  Party shall separately and independently notify the 
Green Party of  California of their bylaws amendments opting out of 
the default procedures  provided by the state Green Party Bylaws.



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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue May 29 21:22:07 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:22:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Roy declares his candidacy for
 the	CC!/General SVR CC Rep Issues
In-Reply-To: <c9c.10c940d4.338c761a@aol.com>
References: <c9c.10c940d4.338c761a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <465CFBEF.4000008@charter.net>

WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
In the last couple of days, Warner has provided several posts regarding 
the manner in which we choose our Regional Reps and their Alternates. It 
is my personal opinion that there are four points to be made and 
Warner's points 1 and 2 below are the most important.

I think that more than a few do not realize just how time and energy 
consuming work for the party really is. Just as important, you lose a 
lot of your ability to schedule you own time. The result is often not 
being able to accomplish any of the jobs as well as one wants.

There is one person who is a Regional Rep, CC Lisison for one Working 
Group, CoCo of another Working Group and a member of at least one other 
standing committee. They must spend all of their time on conference 
calls. There is a lot of work that does not get done.

The third point is that these bylaws issues never seem to be important 
enough to take care of. I mean we gotta go table here, protest there, 
gather across the way. But, in the end, they are very easy to deal with 
and would make this all work a lot better if we just did it.

The 4th point is that, in the current popular culture, the first place 
people look to understand what an organization is all about is their web 
site. I know that it is difficult to get people to work on it. It is 
time consuming and everyone wants to have a say in what it does. So, it 
does not get done and when people look at it, see that nothing has 
happened since 2004, or 5, or 6, then they understand something about 
the way the organization operates... not not.

Warner's proposal make sense. Just do it.
> We did not have a regional caucus at the SF plenary. Both Jo and Jim 
> have expressed the intention to resign as CC Rep and Alternate, 
> respectively, for our Silicon Valley Region. So... for anyone 
> interested in becoming CC Rep or Alternate... and for all of us, consider:
> 1. Do you have an understanding of your responsibilites as CC Rep or 
> Alt? What is your background in the GP or other organizations that is 
> the basis for this? (E.g., email list and telephone conference 
> participation; participating in CC committees and GPCA Standing 
> Committees and Working Groups; Communcating with both County GPs in 
> the region; Etc.)
> 2. Do you have the time and energies to fulfill those responsibilities?
> 3. Ongoing appointment process issues: For years there has been a 
> proposal for both county GPs to adopt Bylaws that would allow us to 
> appoint our CC Rep outside of a plenary meeting. The closest we have 
> come to getting this done is an informal understanding that both 
> County GPs will approve volunteers and they will be formally appointed 
> by a regional caucus at the next plenary. The informal agreement is 
> that we will try to have the CC Rep from one county and the alternate 
> from the other. We could "opt out" of the need for a plenary caucus if 
> folks would get focused enough to amend the bylaws for each county party.

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From MKmusic03 at aol.com  Tue May 29 23:55:28 2007
From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 02:55:28 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: You say you want a revolution...
Message-ID: <d51.9c54335.338e79e0@aol.com>

Please sign the petiton to save the public airwaves for the public good.

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed May 30 13:36:19 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:36:19 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?iso-8859-1?q?=22Bush_Declares_Self_=27Mega_De?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?cider=27_=22?=
Message-ID: <465DE043.7010704@earthlink.net>


 From Mark Morford in today's Chronicle, (well,
at least online):

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/30/1533/


On the same subject from Truthout:

     http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052107T.shtml


And this is what they are referring to:

     http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

Gerry



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 30 15:27:42 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:27:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tamale festival
Message-ID: <465DFA5E.7020603@sbcglobal.net>

The Tamale Festival will be this Saturday, June 2-nd at Emma Prusch Park
in San Jose from 10 am until 6 pm.

Shuttle bus stops are on the map at
http://www.storyroadtamalefestival.org/parking.htm
The map includes VTA lines.

Some pictures form prior festivals are on the website
http://www.storyroadtamalefestival.org/

For future reference:
non profit booths are available for $100.
They supply table, chairs, and umbrella.  And a parking permit.
Fees are due 6 weeks in advance.



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 30 15:29:11 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:29:11 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cindy Sheehan
Message-ID: <465DFAB7.8010507@sbcglobal.net>

If I were cindy Sheehan's neighbor I would bring her a pot of
home made chicken soup and a loaf of home made bread.

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 30 15:48:35 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:48:35 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Coyote Valley Specific Plan Draft Environmental
	Review
Message-ID: <465DFF43.6070506@sbcglobal.net>

Are you interested in the Coyote Valley Specific Plan
or in its Draft Environmental Impact Report?

The web site
http://www.sanjoseca.gov/planning/eir/eir.asp
provides links to a summary and the full DEIR.

The web site for the coyote Valley Specific Plan is
http://www.sanjoseca.gov/coyotevalley/

and includes a notice that
The city of Morgan Hill is holding a meeting to discuss the Draft EIR
on Wednesday May 30-th at 5 pm

and there will be a public meeting in the San Jose Public Library
on Tuesday June 5-th from 2 pm to 4 pm

Here is a copy of an email I received in April which provides references
to webs sites where the reports can be accessed:

We are sending you a copy of the *REVISED* Notice of Availability (NOA) 
for the Coyote Valley Specific Plan (CVSP) Draft Environmental Impact 
Report (DEIR). Please note that the initial 60-day public review period 
(March 30, 2007 to June 1, 2007) for the CVSP DEIR *has been extended to 
June 29, 2007*. During this time the City of San Jose will be accepting 
comments on the document. The DEIR is available for review on the City?s 
web page (_http://www.sanjoseca.gov/planning/eir/eir.asp)_, by CD at the 
Department of Planning, Building, and Code Enforcement, and at all San 
Jose, Morgan Hill, and Gilroy libraries, as indicated on the Revised 
NOA. Comments and questions should be referred to Darryl Boyd in the 
Department of Planning, Building and Code Enforcement at (408) 535-7898, 
via e-mail: darryl.boyd at sanjoseca.gov, or Jared Hart at (408) 535-7904, 
via e-mail: jared.hart at sanjoseca.gov, by fax at (408) 292-6055, or by 
regular mail at the mailing address listed _on the attached Revised NOA_.

The CVSP Task Force meeting on April 16, 2007 will focus on the findings 
of the DEIR, and is open to the public. Additionally, two CVSP community 
meetings are scheduled on April 19, 2007 at 6 P.M. at the Coyote Creek 
Golf Club, and May 2, 2007 at 3 P.M. at the Camden Community Center. 
Please check the CVSP website at the following link: 
(http://www.sanjoseca.gov/coyotevalley/) for any meetings updates. Thank 
you for your interest in this project.




From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 30 20:27:24 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 20:27:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Requesting agenda items for June 7th General
	Meeting of the GPSCC
Message-ID: <982906.17894.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Please send them to this list.  Jim Doyle will be
collecting them and posting them back to this list.


Green = Live and Let Live!

Drew

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 30 20:29:20 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 20:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cindy Sheehan
In-Reply-To: <465DFAB7.8010507@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <398061.47715.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Jim, that's a great idea!  Since she's moved to
Berkeley who do we know in Berkeley GP to forward that
kind idea to?



Green = Care for the Core and let the rest flow,

Drew

--- Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> If I were cindy Sheehan's neighbor I would bring her
> a pot of
> home made chicken soup and a loaf of home made
> bread.
> 
> Jim Doyle

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 30 23:14:59 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FWD: Consider Joining Friends of the Article V
	Convention NOW!
Message-ID: <275608.29851.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sent by Byron De Lear on Tue, 05/22/2007 - 9:27pm.

CHANCE to get on GROUND FLOOR of NEW CIVIC GROUP:
Please Consider Joining Friends of the Article V
Convention NOW!
 
RE: CHANCE to get on GROUND FLOOR of NEW CIVIC GROUP:
 
Please Consider Joining Friends of the Article V
Convention NOW!
 
CLICK HERE TO JOIN:
http://www.foavc.org/membership.htm
 
Tuesday, May 22, 2006
 
Fellow Americans,
 
Last November, the US House and Senate were delivered
to the Democrats by our vote to shut down the tragedy
unfolding in Iraq.
 
With the Democratic leadership in Congress today
folding to Bush's demand to have no troop withdrawal
in the new Iraq War Bill, alongside billions in
funding to continue the war's interminable
prosecution, the will of the American people has once
again been ignored.
 
We are headed for a Constitutional crisis, and it's
time to stage an intervention.
 
Time for some innovative approaches to regrab the
reigns of control of the war making powers of the
United States of America.
 
One method designed into our nation's law that gives
power to the People as a check and balance upon
Washington DC, is the convention clause in Article V
of the Constitution.
 
Article V in the Constitution provides for a means
through which state legislatures can initiate a
convention to propose amendments to the US
Constitution, but even after receiving many more than
the required number of applications for such a
convention, Congress over the years has refused to
issue the call.
 
There is a reason why the Article V Convention
mechanism was designed into our government, in the
event of a crisis in which the Federal government has
broken down, become irretrievably corrupt or
concertedly ignores the expressed wishes of the
People, the convention clause may be triggered to
provide solutions to problems Washington DC cannot or
will not solve.
 
Thomas Jefferson felt that our Constitution needed to
evolve with the solutions provided by a convention
every generation.
Congress failing to issue the call is a continuing
violation of the direct language of the Constitution.
 
A new organization of concerned Americans has recently
been formed to affirm the necessity for Congress to
obey the Constitution.
 
Friends of the Article V Convention (www.FOAVC.org) is
a growing collection of individuals from all across
this nation, from all political stripes, who see
Washington speeding away like a runaway train from
fundamental rights given to the People, namely, the
right for an Article V Convention.
 
If a critical mass of Americans demand that Congress
obey the Constitution and call an Article V
Convention, this will be the kind of populist wake-up
call that says very clearly that America is run by the
people, not the politicians who currently hold our
democracy in contempt.
 
Sincerely and with Deep Concern,
 
Byron De Lear
FOAVC Co-Founder, www.FOAVC.org 
Former US House Candidate, www.DeLearforCongress.org
Director and Secretary, www.globalpeacesolution.org
byron at globalpeacesolution.org
 
Please Consider Joining Friends of the Article V
Convention NOW!
 
CLICK HERE TO JOIN:
http://www.foavc.org/membership.htm

__________________________________________________________________

Hello. Welcome to Friends of the Article V Convention
(FOAVC). We are a non-partisan association of American
citizens from every state in our Republic comprised of
a broad range of occupations, ethnicities, religious
affiliations and political persuasions. Our common
bond is a deep commitment to preserving the values and
principles embodied in our founding documents - the
Declaration of Independence and the Constitution -
upon which this nation was founded.

Article V of the Constitution of the United States
provides that "on the application of the Legislatures
of two thirds of the several States, [Congress] shall
call a Convention for proposing Amendments..." The
Founding Fathers of our nation recognized the
importance of providing this means by which the
citizens of our country could initiate amendments to
the Constitution, the fundamental document which they
intended to be not only the blueprint for our federal
system but also "the supreme Law of the Land".

The Founding Fathers described the obligation of
Congress to call an Article V convention as
"peremptory". Alexander Hamilton, author of the final
language in Article V wrote in Federalist 85:

"In opposition to the probability of subsequent
amendments, it has been urged that the persons
delegated to the administration of the national
government will always be disinclined to yield up any
portion of the authority of which they were once
possessed. For my own part I acknowledge a thorough
conviction that any amendments which may, upon mature
consideration, be thought useful, will be applicable
to the organization of the government, not to the mass
of its powers; and on this account alone, I think
there is no weight in the observation just stated. I
also think there is little weight in it on another
account. The intrinsic difficulty of governing
THIRTEEN STATES at any rate, independent of
calculations upon an ordinary degree of public spirit
and integrity, will, in my opinion constantly impose
on the national rulers the necessity of a spirit of
accommodation to the reasonable expectations of their
constituents. But there is yet a further
consideration, which proves beyond the possibility of
a doubt, that the observation is futile. It is this
that the national rulers, whenever nine States concur,
will have no option upon the subject. By the fifth
article of the plan, the Congress will be obliged "on
the application of the legislatures of two thirds of
the States [which at present amount to nine], to call
a convention for proposing amendments, which shall be
valid, to all intents and purposes, as part of the
Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of
three fourths of the States, or by conventions in
three fourths thereof." The words of this article are
peremptory. The Congress "shall call a convention."
Nothing in this particular is left to the discretion
of that body. And of consequence, all the declamation
about the disinclination to a change vanishes in air.
Nor however difficult it may be supposed to unite two
thirds or three fourths of the State legislatures, in
amendments which may affect local interests, can there
be any room to apprehend any such difficulty in a
union on points which are merely relative to the
general liberty or security of the people. We may
safely rely on the disposition of the State
legislatures to erect barriers against the
encroachments of the national authority.

If the foregoing argument is a fallacy, certain it is
that I am myself deceived by it, for it is, in my
conception, one of those rare instances in which a
political truth can be brought to the test of a
mathematical demonstration. Those who see the matter
in the same light with me, however zealous they may be
for amendments, must agree in the propriety of a
previous adoption, as the most direct road to their
own object."

Yet in spite of the fact that all 50 state
legislatures have submitted 568 applications (far in
excess of the two-thirds requirement) requesting a
convention call, Congress has ignored its
constitutionally mandated duty. Some Americans fear a
convention. This fear, based upon half-truths, myths
and outright false hoods, helps to justify the
congressional veto of direct constitutional text and
denies the people their right to amend the
Constitution without government interference or
oversight. They say that such a gathering could become
a "runaway" convention -- re-writing or over-turning
parts or all of the Constitution. They ignore the fact
that the Framers also provided a safety mechanism to
prevent such a fiasco: all amendments proposed by the
Convention must be ratified by three-quarters of the
states before they become effective. There is no
danger that radicals on either side of the political
spectrum could bring about such an outcome.

Not all in authority have opposed a convention
however. President Abraham Lincoln in his first
inaugural address, March 4, 1861 said:

"Continue to execute all the express provisions of our
National Constitution, and the Union will endure
forever, it being impossible to destroy it except by
some action not provided for in the instrument
itself..."

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the
people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary
of the existing Government, they can exercise their
constitutional right of amending it or their
revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it. I
can not be ignorant of the fact that many worthy and
patriotic citizens are desirous to have the National
Constitution amended. While I make no recommendation
of amendments, I fully recognize the rightful
authority of the people over the whole subject, to be
exercised in either of the modes prescribed in the
instrument itself; and I should, under existing
circumstances, favor rather than oppose a fair
opportunity being afforded the people to act upon it.
I will venture to add that to me the convention mode
seems preferable, in that it allows amendments to
originate with the people themselves, instead of only
permitting them to take or reject propositions
originated by others, not especially chosen for the
purpose, and which might not be precisely such as they
would wish to either accept of refuse."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower also supported an
Article V Convention saying: "Through their state
legislatures and without regard to the federal
government, the people can demand a convention to
propose amendments that can and will reverse any
trends they see as fatal to true representative
government."

Yet fears remain and the myths persist. The antidote
for any fear is knowledge, and education is the reason
why FOAVC exists. Our goal is to inform all citizens
about the convention clause in the Constitution and to
provide an electronic town hall where the people can
discuss the various issues pertaining to a convention
in a calm and rational manner. Our ultimate objective
is to generate the 'critical mass' necessary to
convene an Article V convention.

We invite you, all patriots and concerned Americans,
to carefully review the articles, documents and
discussion presented in these pages. If upon careful
consideration you conclude, as we have, that an
Article V Convention is necessary to preserve the
Constitutional Republic - and to prevent Congress from
vetoing the will of the people - we invite you to join
FOAVC.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for
good men to do nothing." --Edmund Burke

Byron De Lear
Global Peace Solution
GPS... positioning the world in a different way
www.globalpeacesolution.org
byron at globalpeacesolution.org 

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 30 23:23:29 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:23:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Roy declares his candidacy for the County Council
In-Reply-To: <c9c.10c940d4.338c761a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <985290.29701.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Okay, I double-checked with Roy this evening and he
meant he was interested in serving on the County
Council, not the Regional Representative to the GPCA
Coordinating Committee.  Still extremely welcome!  

So that means sometime soon we'll want to start
looking for a new Regional Rep. since the current CC
regime is completely out of wack and needs to be
entirely replaced in order to get the GPCA working
again.

Green = Live and Let Live!

Drew
 
--- WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 5/26/07 12:22:15 AM Pacific
> Daylight Time,  
> jamboi at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> Roy  Nordblum wrote the following today:
> 
> --- Palm Haven Handyman  <palmheaven at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Reboot.  I'll run for  CC.  Roy III
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> We did not have a regional caucus at  the SF
> plenary.  Both Jo and Jim have 
> expressed the intention to resign as  CC Rep and
> Alternate, respectively, for 
> our Silicon Valley Region.   So...  for anyone
> interested in becoming CC Rep or 
> Alternate...  and  for all of us, consider:
>  
> 1.  Do you have an understanding  of your
> responsibilites as CC Rep or Alt? 
> What is your background in the GP or  other
> organizations that is the basis for 
> this?  (E.g., email list and  telephone conference
> participation; 
> participating in CC committees and GPCA  Standing
> Committees and Working Groups; 
> Communcating with both County GPs in the  region;
> Etc.)
> 2.  Do you have the time and  energies to fulfill
> those responsibilities?
> 3.  Ongoing appointment process  issues:  For years
> there has been a proposal 
> for both county GPs to adopt  Bylaws that would
> allow us to appoint our CC 
> Rep outside of a plenary  meeting.  The closest we
> have come to getting this 
> done is an informal  understanding that both County
> GPs will approve volunteers 
> and they will be  formally appointed by a regional
> caucus at the next plenary.  
> The  informal agreement is that we will try to have
> the CC Rep from one 
> county and  the alternate from the other.  We could
> "opt out" of the need for a 
> plenary  caucus if folks would get focused enough to
> amend the bylaws for each 
> county  party.
>  
> Warner
> 
> 
> 
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> free at http://www.aol.com.
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>
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 30 23:35:28 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:35:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bylaws; Web Page;
	What Are County Council Responsibilities?
In-Reply-To: <c8c.dd7ac1c.338e4eab@aol.com>
Message-ID: <340310.99933.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Warner,

Please cool the jets there amigo.  We *did* do at
least a partial review of the bylaws earlier this
year.  Yes its missing an update and we're aware of
that.  Yes our GPSCC web site is extremely out of
date.  Anyone interested in helping out is welcome to
contact me and I'll put them to work. ;-)  I'll be
working on this stuff sometime soon, but maybe others
will also emerge to lend a hand.  Also we're going to
be adding forums and such soon (I already posted about
that).

Institutional memory is obviously difficult for the
GPSCC to maintain.  We're working on improving on all
these things.  

Warner and everyone: have you come up with any
recruits for the County Council?  We all need to be
constantly on the look out.  Females and people of
color most especially needed.  I spoke with Nativo
Lopez and I think he'll be a help to us in finding
representatives of the latino community.  We also need
to connect to our asian communities.



Green = "First secure your own mask, then help those
around you with theirs."

Drew

--- WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:

> Jim Doyle suggested I propose a bylaws amendment re
> how to  choose the 
> Region's GPCA CC Rep and Alternate...  Never mind
> that I have  been doing that 
> periodically since 2003!!!   The GPSCC County
> Council  has the responsibility to 
> receive and put such proposals on the agenda so it
> can  be announced and 
> discussed at one meeting and then acted on at
> another --  basically a 60 days 
> process.  'Course those bylaws also say they are 
> supposed to be reviewed every two 
> years...  'Course, the bylaws amendment  that was
> approved in 2003 STILL isn't 
> showing on the webpage version of the  GPSCC
> Bylaws...  Never mind that the 
> GPSCC webpage is terribly out of date  and, even for
> the content that shows, 
> doesn't indicate what year it is referring  to
> (i.e., 2006 mostly).  So... Who 
> has the responsibility for being the  administrative
> committee for the County 
> GP?  Could it be the County  Council???  Maybe check
> the Bylaws???   Warner

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 30 23:38:49 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Open Email to the GPSCC County Council;
	Bylaws Amendment Proposal
In-Reply-To: <cc6.1293967c.338e5007@aol.com>
Message-ID: <997312.32872.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Warner,

Your proposal arrived too late for us to consider it
at the Tuesday evening County Council meeting, but we
can look at it at this Sunday's supplemental meeting. 
3:30-6pm at Jim Doyle's house.  

Green = "First secure your own mask, then help those
around you with theirs."

Drew

--- WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:

> To the GPSCC County Council:  The following is a
> proposal  for GPSCC Bylaws 
> Amendments.  Please go read the GPSCC Bylaws to see
> what  you are supposed to 
> do in response.  In Struggle!  Warner S. Bloomberg 
> III
>
**********************************************************
> May 29, 2007 Proposal for New GPSCC (and GPSMC) 
> Bylaws
>  
> New Proposed 7.2  Choice of Regional Representative
> and  Alternate 
> (Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties). A candidate
> for Regional  
> Representative to the GPCA Coordinating Committee
> shall announce their  availability as a 
> candidate on the County Party email list at least
> fifteen days  before the next 
> meeting when a vacancy or replacement is considered.
>  The  candidate shall 
> describe their background that supports their
> candidacy and  briefly describe 
> her or his goals in seeking the position.  The
> candidate  will 
> personally appear at the meeting to answer
> questions.  The  applicable 
> meeting may be a general membership meeting, a
> business meeting or 
> a County Council meeting -- depending on the
> practice in the  county.  
> However, the candidacy must be announced on the
> agenda using the  usual practices in 
> each County.  The decision will then be placed on
> the  agenda and made at the 
> next monthly meeting. If a candidate is approved in
> Santa  Clara County, the 
> same candidate must also be approved in San Mateo 
> County.  If a different 
> candidate is chosen by one of these County Green 
> Parties, the decision must be 
> retaken by both until there is agreement on 
> a candidate.  The Silicon Valley Region Alternate to
> the  GPCA Coordinating 
> Committee will be chosen by the same  procedures. 
> Where candidates are 
> available, the Regional  Representative and the
> Alternate will not be from 
> the same county.
>  
> This Bylaw Amendment will become effective upon its
> adoption  by 
> both the Green Party of Santa Clara County and the
> Green Party of 
> San  Mateo County and shall not be effective until
> adopted by both 
> County Green  Parties.  Upon adoption, the County
> Council from each 
> County Green  Party shall separately and
> independently notify the 
> Green Party of  California of their bylaws
> amendments opting out of 
> the default procedures  provided by the state Green
> Party Bylaws.
> 
> 
> 
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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Wed May 30 23:51:47 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:51:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] County Council meeting notes 5/29/07
Message-ID: <66570.44752.qm@web52204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Follow up meeting this coming Sunday, June 3rd at Jim
Doyle's house from 3:30 pm until 6 pm.

Drew: Plenary discussion
 Reboot Proposal almost adopted
 Factional fanatics abusive behavior at plenary and   
   possible solutions.

Drew: This Saturday June 2nd Civil Rights in Newark
 5:30 SVIC impeachment walking vigil in San  
  Pedro/Downtown

Drew: Bike for Peace $$ collection.
 $20 from Gerry, $10 Drew, $20 from Tian, $10 Merriam 
  (to add to previous $10).

Merriam: Impeachment event  Spell out w/  
  bodies. Maybe 32 people needed.

Drew: Nativo Lopez reports MAPA opening office in SCC.


Merriam: Tabling opportunities

June tabling 
10th Gay Pride Parade 
10th - Iraqui Labor leader's talk

July tabling
4th America celebration near Children's museum

____________

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Drew

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu May 31 00:42:38 2007
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 00:42:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Economics Evolving
Message-ID: <465E7C6E.3070601@earthlink.net>


I found the following article interesting, because
it talks about some current evolution in economists
thinking, and it will probably affect government
policies.

"Hip Heterodoxy"
"Neoclassical Economics still reigns, but its critics
are gathering steam"

     http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070611/hayes

(Also in the June 11th issue, page 18.)

Gerry



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 31 07:09:42 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 07:09:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Roy declares his candidacy for the County
	Council
In-Reply-To: <985290.29701.qm@web52203.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <71211.83090.qm@web52211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Also Roy said he is interested in getting onto an SJ
board or commission, especially the Architectural
Review Commission.  He said that for this next
election  cycle (2008) he'd determined he would not be
able to run for congress against Zoe Lofgren as he'd
previously expressed interest in doing.


Green = Take Care of the Core and let the rest flow!

Drew

--- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Okay, I double-checked with Roy this evening and he
> meant he was interested in serving on the County
> Council, not the Regional Representative to the GPCA
> Coordinating Committee.  Still extremely welcome!  
> 
> So that means sometime soon we'll want to start
> looking for a new Regional Rep. since the current CC
> regime is completely out of wack and needs to be
> entirely replaced in order to get the GPCA working
> again.
> 
> Green = Live and Let Live!
> 
> Drew
>  
> --- WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> >  
> > In a message dated 5/26/07 12:22:15 AM Pacific
> > Daylight Time,  
> > jamboi at yahoo.com writes:
> > 
> > Roy  Nordblum wrote the following today:
> > 
> > --- Palm Haven Handyman  <palmheaven at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Reboot.  I'll run for  CC.  Roy III
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We did not have a regional caucus at  the SF
> > plenary.  Both Jo and Jim have 
> > expressed the intention to resign as  CC Rep and
> > Alternate, respectively, for 
> > our Silicon Valley Region.   So...  for anyone
> > interested in becoming CC Rep or 
> > Alternate...  and  for all of us, consider:
> >  
> > 1.  Do you have an understanding  of your
> > responsibilites as CC Rep or Alt? 
> > What is your background in the GP or  other
> > organizations that is the basis for 
> > this?  (E.g., email list and  telephone conference
> > participation; 
> > participating in CC committees and GPCA  Standing
> > Committees and Working Groups; 
> > Communcating with both County GPs in the  region;
> > Etc.)
> > 2.  Do you have the time and  energies to fulfill
> > those responsibilities?
> > 3.  Ongoing appointment process  issues:  For
> years
> > there has been a proposal 
> > for both county GPs to adopt  Bylaws that would
> > allow us to appoint our CC 
> > Rep outside of a plenary  meeting.  The closest we
> > have come to getting this 
> > done is an informal  understanding that both
> County
> > GPs will approve volunteers 
> > and they will be  formally appointed by a regional
> > caucus at the next plenary.  
> > The  informal agreement is that we will try to
> have
> > the CC Rep from one 
> > county and  the alternate from the other.  We
> could
> > "opt out" of the need for a 
> > plenary  caucus if folks would get focused enough
> to
> > amend the bylaws for each 
> > county  party.
> >  
> > Warner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ************************************** See what's
> > free at http://www.aol.com.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> >
>
http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> > 
> 
> 
> ___________________
> 
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> The Green Parties' #1 Blogger
> http://dailyJam.blogspot.com
> 
> "To the brave belong all things"
> Celt's invading Etrusca reply to nervous Romans
> around 400BC
> 
> "Live humbly, laugh often and love unconditionally"
> (anon)
> 
> 
>  
>
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From wrolley at charter.net  Thu May 31 07:22:15 2007
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 07:22:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Economics Evolving
In-Reply-To: <465E7C6E.3070601@earthlink.net>
References: <465E7C6E.3070601@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <465EDA17.6050202@charter.net>

Gerry Gras wrote:
> I found the following article interesting, because
> it talks about some current evolution in economists
> thinking, and it will probably affect government
> policies.
>
> "Hip Heterodoxy"
> "Neoclassical Economics still reigns, but its critics
> are gathering steam"
>
>      http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070611/hayes
>
> (Also in the June 11th issue, page 18.)
>
>   
Gerry, that is an excellent article. It led me to make a few connected 
observations.

Are Greens, in their critique of globalization and the corporate power 
structure, making errors of the same type. That is not working on the 
basis of observed phenomena but rather choosing to use only those 
behaviors that fit a pre-conceived version of how the world works. 
Things are much too complex to hold the view that all of retail is like 
WalMart.

In fact, I tend to think of economic behavior in terms of the open 
systems and flow structures that are used to describe the complex 
behavior of ecological structures.

But then, political action is driven so much by anger or indignation and 
it is hard to get angry about an open system. That is a luxury given 
only to tenured professors and policy wonks.


-- 
"I find I have a great lot to learn ? or unlearn. I seem to know far too much and this knowledge obscures the really significant facts, but I am getting on." -- Charles Rennie Mackintosh

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From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 31 09:10:37 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:10:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cindy Sheehan
In-Reply-To: <398061.47715.qm@web52212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <743665.98673.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Laura,

Jim Doyle had the following idea marvelously friendly
and generous idea... could one of y'all in Alameda
County make use of this idea (news reports say she'd
relocated to Berkeley from her previous home in
Vacaville)?


Green = living out the 10 Key Values and leading by
example

Drew

> --- Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> > If I were cindy Sheehan's neighbor I would bring
> her a pot of home made chicken soup and a loaf of
home made bread.

> > Jim Doyle


--- JamBoi <jamboi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jim, that's a great idea!  Since she's moved to
> Berkeley who do we know in Berkeley GP (or
thereabouts) to forward that kind idea to?
> 
> 
> 
> Green = Care for the Core and let the rest flow,
> 
> Drew

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From tnharter at ispwest.com  Thu May 31 14:23:02 2007
From: tnharter at ispwest.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:23:02 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] I saw at the Green Party of California meeting in
	San Francisco...
Message-ID: <465F3CB6.2040304@ispwest.com>

I went nuts with my camera. You can see my take on the meeting at:

http://tian.greens.org/GreenParty/California/May07/index.html

It was a good meeting over all.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Lately I've been wondering if the idea "WalMart
is to Arkansas as Disney is to Anaheim" holds water.



From jamboi at yahoo.com  Thu May 31 16:43:14 2007
From: jamboi at yahoo.com (JamBoi)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:43:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Single Payer SB 840 passes Senate
	Appropriations Committee
Message-ID: <761027.68487.qm@web52207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The Senate Appropriations Cmte. hearing was on TV this
afternoon so I was able to see the actual vote on
SB840. It was 10-6 along party lines. The 17th member,
Jim Battin, Republican, was ill and unable to attend
the meeting to vote.
It will go to the Senate floor to be voted on next
week. Continue to lobby your Senator to vote yes or
thank them if they are Co-Authors:

   1. Senator Elaine Alquist (Santa Clara) ? principal
   2. Senator Gilbert Cedillo (Los Angeles)
   3. Senator Dean Florez (Shafter)
   4. Senator Ellen Corbett (San Leandro) ? principal
   5. Senator Sheila Kuehl (Santa Monica) ? author
   6. Senator Alan Lowenthal (Long Beach)
   7. Senator Carole Migden (San Francisco) ?
principal
   8. Senator Jenny Oropeza (Long Beach)
   9. Senator Alex Padilla (San Fernando Valley)
  10. Senator Don Perata (Oakland)
  11. Senator Mark Ridley ? Thomas (Los Angeles)
  12. Senator Gloria Romero (Los Angeles)
  13. Senator Darrell Steinberg (Sacramento)
  14. Senator Patricia Wiggins (Santa Rosa)
  15. Senator Leland Yee (San Francisco) ? principal 
       
       

Lynn Huidekoper, RN
Legislative Liaison
Director -Health Care for All Californians-Silicon
Valley Coalition
Sheila Kuehl's Single Payer SB840
Menlo Park CA.
650-322-9609
http://www.onecarenow.org
http://www.healthcareforall.org
With Unity There is Strength



    Subject: SB 840 passes Senate Appropriations
Committee
    Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:45:17 -0400
    From: Dan.hodges at fkilogistex.com

    The vote was 10-6. The committee has 17 members. I
don't know who didn't vote.
     
    Dan



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From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu May 31 19:40:41 2007
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:40:41 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Iraqi union members speak about Iraq on
	sun. 6/10]
Message-ID: <465F8729.3060600@freeshell.org>

I suggest that this be posted on our GPSCC discuss list network.

Fred

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Iraqi union members speak about Iraq on sun. 6/10
Date: 	Thu, 31 May 2007 19:01:38 -0700
From: 	Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
To: 	<fredd at freeshell.org>, <lpenek at hotmail.com>, <ymple at msn.com>, 
<pmengstrom at macreviewzone.com>, <cbrowning at stanford.edu>, 
<barbara.lea at comcast.net>, <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>, 
<margaritalester at aol.com>, <pearlc8 at msn.com>, <jaembree at aol.com>, 
<blortez at aol.com>, <jbfbuell at aol.com>, <lsa1o at aol.com>, 
<gwhunt97 at sbcglobal.net>, <perrysandy at aol.com>, <bpscott at sbcglobal.net>, 
<davidwald3 at sbcglobal.net>, <pegelwell at aol.com>, <bbjelane at gmail.com>, 
<mqqwest at earthlink.net>, <markmetzler at sbcglobal.net>, 
<brogregm at sbcglobal.net>, <tom at jaworowski.net>, <rufuso at pacbell.net>



A chance to hear from Iraqi union members talking about the situation in Iraq. Many org. sponsoring this event. See below.  Sunday, June 10thVoices of Iraqi Workers: 2007 Solidarity Tour?San Jose2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. Laborers Hall, 509 Emory St. at Coleman Ave.  (south of Hedding St.)This is a rare opportunity for people in the US to dialogue directly with Iraqi workers and labor leaders about current attempts to control Iraq?s oil, women's issues under the occupation, and the role of unions in creating a non-sectarian, progressive Iraq. These courageous leaders struggled for years against Saddam Hussein?s repression. Now they have stepped forward to organize workers seeking to improve conditions at their workplaces and in their lives under the difficult conditions of occupation, sectarian division, and violence. They are fighting not only for basic labor rights for all workers but also for women?s equality and against privatization of their national resources.Suggested Donation: $5 - $15 sliding scale (No one turned away for lack of funds.)Sponsors:South Bay AFL-CIO Labor Council, Building & Construction Trades Council, Communications Workers of America Local 9423, Plumbers & Fitters Local 393, Laborers Local 270, California Nurses Association, South Bay Mobilization for Peace and Justice, San Jose Peace Center, Women?s International League for Peace and Freedom, Friends of South Asia, Veterans for Peace, Labor Party, Green Party, Arab-American Cultural Center of Silicon Valley, our developing world, Students for Justice-SJSUEndorsed by Peninsula Peace and Justice Center. Contact: joan at wilpfsanjose.org or (408) 243-4359Lynn Huidekoper, RN Legislative Liaison Director -Health Care for All Californians-Silicon Valley Coalition Sheila Kuehl's Single Payer SB840Menlo Park CA. 650-322-9609 http://www.onecarenow.org http://www.healthcareforall.org With Unity There is Strength

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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 31 21:39:11 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:39:11 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda for Thursday 6/7/07 meeting
Message-ID: <000001c7a479$74d14ba0$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP>

This is a call for agenda items for next thursday's meeting.

One item was already requested:  by laws changes re selection
of  regional rep to the coordinating committee.

Submit your suggested topics either to the list or to me.

Jim Doyle
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 31 23:15:16 2007
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 23:15:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items for next Thursday 6/7/07
Message-ID: <000101c7a479$7554ac70$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP>

This is a call for agenda items for next Thursdya's meeting.

At present I have one request for a proposal concerning changes to by-laws 
with respect to the the election of regional reps to the coordinating committee.

Jim Doyle
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