[Sosfbay-discuss] What to do about possible Iran attack?

[Andrea Dorey]

I think it will take making it very costly NOT to do the right  
thing.  A campaign that makes it clear that there will be a huge  
price to pay.
What price???
It will have to be a deep attack on the two major parties because  
it's clear that it's not just the Republicans who are refusing to  
impeach or to hire an independent prosecutor.
And it seems to be unthinkable to all, including most Greens, to vote  
up and down the ballot for Third Party only!  How can we the people  
win otherwise?
I'd like to hear from others if they have an idea for a more powerful  
attack on the status quo.
Andrea

On Sep 21, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:

> Hey Kaisha,
>
> We have H Res 333 Impeachment of Cheney (H Res = House Resolution, as
> opposed to a bill which would be simply HR) already to go with 19
> co-signers already.  Its been available for months and if the Dems  
> weren't
> such cowards they could have begun the Impeachment Inquiries long ago.
> Note that Cynthia McKinney also introduced articles of impeachment  
> at the
> very end of her term last December when it was only a symbolic move  
> (due
> to their being no time remaining in the 109th congress to process it).
>
> As for how long it takes that is extremely variable since its mostly a
> matter of building support for it through impeachment inquiry  
> hearings.
> If the house were of such a mind they could do it in a single day.  Of
> course they are not in this mind today, so its a hard question to  
> answer.
>
> Mostly I've been angling all along for a replay of the Nixonian moment
> where the Republicans step in and inform Bush its time to resign.   
> That's
> what I think will really happen if enough pressure (via impeachment
> inquiry hearings) is applied.
>
>
> Green is Peace!
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Fri, September 21, 2007 12:28, Kaisha Torres wrote:
>> In reality, how long does an impeachment process take? I ask  
>> because I am
>> genuinely confused about the most effective way to protest this  
>> and the
>> possibility of war against Iran is terrifying to me. Although  
>> impeachment
>> proceedings would certainly distract the administration from Iran, we
>> don't
>> yet have
>> Impeachment resolutions made by members of the House of  
>> Representatives to
>> be turned over to the House Judiciary Committee. Once that  
>> happens, delays
>> can occur before the vote in order to investigate the resolutions.  
>> With
>> 487
>> days remaining (plenty of time to start a war) is there enough  
>> time to get
>> into the House Judiciary and all the way through to the Senate trial?
>> While
>> nothing would please me more than impeachment, if it is not  
>> logistically
>> possible, I would prefer to focus my attention on preventing  
>> another war
>> through other means. I am curious to hear what others have to say.
>>
>> Stop future wars now,
>> Kaisha
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org
>> [mailto:sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org]On Behalf Of Drew  
>> Johnson
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:05 PM
>> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] What to do about possible Iran attack?
>>
>>
>> Impeachment is needed NOW!  Impeach Cheney first.  Through the  
>> Silicon
>> Valley Impeachment Coalition we've been hard at work on this  
>> issue.  We
>> (Gerry and Fred, me and 2 others) met directly with Anna Eshoo  
>> last Friday
>> on this very issue.  She was in (not total, but significant)  
>> denial about
>> the magnitude of the clear and present danger that Cheney-Bush  
>> represent
>> particularly in regards to their intentions towards Iran.
>>
>>
>> Impeach for Peace!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>>
>> On Thu, September 20, 2007 10:02, Gerry Gras wrote:
>>>
>>> I keep hearing that the Bush Administration
>>> is pushing for an attack on Iran due to its
>>> possible nuclear activity.  Considering the
>>> fact that no WMD were found in Iran, this
>>> administration should have 0 credibility on
>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> Yet I see little action in this country in
>>> opposition to Iran.  We may see an occasional
>>> sign at various events, but not much.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something?  In my opinion, an
>>> attack on Iran would be a disaster.  Why is
>>> there not more opposition?
>>>
>>> And if you agree that there should be more
>>> opposition, what should be done?
>>>
>>> I plan to at least send more letters to my
>>> reps.  But that's not enough.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
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>>
>> --
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>> "Peaceable: the ability to interact peacefully.  A skill set  
>> similar to
>> social or emotional intelligence that is unfortunately rare in  
>> today's
>> American culture, but can be developed by all.  The Green Parties  
>> need to
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> http://www.greencommons.org/blog/63
> "Peaceable: the ability to interact peacefully.  A skill set  
> similar to
> social or emotional intelligence that is unfortunately rare in today's
> American culture, but can be developed by all.  The Green Parties  
> need to
> lead the way in Peaceableness."
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