[Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: We Can't Wait]

Fri Sep 28 18:29:36 PDT 2007

The problem is not just that it is long, the problem is that
I think it is likely that if you use it, it will think you
are me, and I don't know what kind of problems that might
cause.

Gerry

Drew Johnson wrote:

> A way to deal with overly long URLs is to use the http://tinyurl.com
> service.  That will reformat the URL into something short and usable. 
> Could you re-send it with a shortened URL?  If you still have the e-mail
> they sent you it should be retrievable.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Impeach for Peace!
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> On Fri, September 28, 2007 13:07, Gerry Gras wrote:
> 
>>I truncated the URL I was given because it was so long,
>>I think it was personalized, i.e. the website would assume
>>I was the one who invoked it.  But yes, I see that with the
>>truncated version, you can't find the page I was talking
>>about, which is kind of wierd.
>>
>>I sent an email to the ACLU, but I did not get a response.
>>
>>I don't know what else to tell you.
>>
>>Gerry
>>
>>
>>Drew Johnson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I agree with Fred.  Nevertheless I'd be happy to sign something on
>>>behalf
>>>of the ACLU to follow up with this e-mail, but when I go to the web site
>>>I
>>>don't find any action item that seems to correspond.  Gerry if you could
>>>please clarify...
>>>
>>>
>>>Green is Connection!
>>>
>>>Drew
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, September 25, 2007 16:54, Fred Duperrault wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It is commendable what the ACLU is doing here.
>>>>
>>>>I have some questions, though.  The leverage of all the ACLU supporters
>>>>won't amount to much because most Democrats have shown reluctance to
>>>>stand up to Bush.  Who else will the liberal Democratic voters vote for
>>>>but the Democrats who are talking a lot but not doing much?  It won't be
>>>>the Republicans, nor the Greens.
>>>>
>>>>Also, why hasn't the ACLU called for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney?
>>>>By ignoring the constitutional means to protect the Constitution,
>>>>Congress is, in fact, the Pelosi crowd is pardoning Cheney and Bush for
>>>>their high crimes and misdemeanors.
>>>>
>>>>By capitulating to the "Deciders," the Democratic Party controlled House
>>>>has condoned their violations of the Constitution.
>>>>
>>>>Will the ACLU membership throw its support to Kucinich if their
>>>>Democrats continue to disappoint them?
>>>>
>>>>If they would, will the ACLU leadership go along?
>>>>
>>>>Hmmmmm,
>>>>
>>>>Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>FYI,
>>>>
>>>>Action from the ACLU...
>>>>
>>>>Gerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-------- Original Message --------
>>>>Subject: We Can't Wait
>>>>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:00:32 -0500 (CDT)
>>>>From: "Anthony D. Romero, ACLU" <Executive_Director at aclu.org>
>>>>Reply-To: "Anthony D. Romero, ACLU" <Executive_Director at aclu.org>
>>>>Organization: ACLU
>>>>To: gerrygras at earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>>****************************************
>>>>We Can't Wait! Defend Freedom Now
>>>>http://action.aclu.org/  <clip>
>>>>****************************************
>>>>Dear Gerald,
>>>>
>>>>It's time for Congress to stop caving in and start standing up
>>>>to the Bush Administration.
>>>>
>>>>Our "leaders" in Washington keep telling us to wait for a
>>>>more politically expedient time to restore our freedoms. Well, I have
>>>>a message for them: Don't Wait for '08! That's going
>>>>to be the ACLU's rallying cry during our critical 100-day campaign
>>>>demanding immediate action from Congress to restore our constitutional
>>>>rights.
>>>>
>>>>With your help, we are going to put all 535 members of Congress on the
>>>>record by asking a simple question - Will you defend the Constitution?
>>>>And will you defend it now? Answering yes means standing up on four
>>>>critical issues: ending warrantless wiretapping, shutting down
>>>>Guantanamo Bay, restoring habeas corpus, and stopping torture.
>>>>
>>>>Ask your member of Congress: Will you defend the Constitution?
>>>>http://action.aclu.org/  <clip>
>>>>
>>>>Over the next 100 days, we'll bring the full force of the
>>>>ACLU's membership and activist base to bear on targeted members
>>>>of Congress who fail to defend freedom. This includes local newspaper
>>>>and radio ads, billboards and online strategies, and grassroots
>>>>pressure both online and offline with millions of Americans coming
>>>>together to demand action on these fundamental freedoms.
>>>>
>>>>Our legislative advocates will work behind the scenes to press members
>>>>of Congress to commit to key legislation to restore habeas corpus,
>>>>close Guantanamo Bay, reverse the Military Commissions Act and
>>>>fix the so-called "Protect America Act" that allows
>>>>warrantless searches of innocent Americans. And, every time Congress
>>>>acts -- or fails to act -- we'll mobilize our more
>>>>than half-million ACLU members to take action.
>>>>
>>>>So, please, ask your member of Congress: Will you defend the
>>>>Constitution?
>>>>http://action.aclu.org/  <clip>
>>>>
>>>>We've already fired the first salvo in this campaign by running
>>>>ads in the hometown newspapers of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid
>>>>demanding they stop acting like the President's sheep by following him
>>>>blindly. That was only the beginning. Now, we're insisting that
>>>>all members of Congress do the right thing and defend the
>>>>Constitution.
>>>>
>>>>We've already put Congress on notice. They heard from hundreds
>>>>of thousands of angry activists when they failed to protect our
>>>>privacy by passing August's FISA-gutting legislation. Because of
>>>>that outcry, Congress is now claiming that they'll fix this
>>>>reckless legislation before it sunsets. And last week, the Senate came
>>>>within four votes of passing legislation to restore habeas corpus.
>>>>
>>>>With your help, there is a very real chance that Congress will take
>>>>action to restore the Constitution in the next 100 days but only if we
>>>>keep the pressure on.
>>>>
>>>>Don't Wait for '08 to end warrantless wiretapping, shut
>>>>down Guantanamo Bay, restore habeas corpus, and stop torture.
>>>>In the weeks and months ahead, this must be the agenda of those who
>>>>care about freedom. And, if we are going to produce genuine progress
>>>>on that agenda, we must create unrelenting pressure on a recalcitrant
>>>>Congress to act now -- Don't Wait for '08.
>>>>
>>>>Now's the time. Ask your member of Congress: Will you defend the
>>>>Constitution?
>>>>http://action.aclu.org/  <clip>
>>>>
>>>>You know what's at stake if we prolong restoring the
>>>>Constitution any longer. That's why I know we can count on you
>>>>to participate in this critical campaign.
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>Anthony D. Romero
>>>>Executive Director
>>>>ACLU
>>>>
>>>>P.S. The ACLU is going for broke. We won't let a single member
>>>>of Congress off the hook when it comes to abandoning the Constitution.
>>>>Our Don't Wait for '08 campaign needs your immediate
>>>>commitment. Please take a few minutes now to ask your member of
>>>>Congress: Will you defend the Constitution?
>>>>http://action.aclu.org/  <clip>
>>>>
>>>>Then, watch for updates on which Members of Congress have made the
>>>>Commitment to the Constitution and news of how you can help us target
>>>>the ones who haven't.
>>>>
>>>>
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