From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 2 12:00:33 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:00:33 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] fundraising Message-ID: <47A4CBE1.2030104@sbcglobal.net> The late filing fines have been settled. The treasury has been emptied - to less than $100. Conclusion: fundraising is necessary and urgent. Make your suggestions for fundraising and fundraising events. Jim Doyle (treasurer's hat this time) From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 2 12:02:04 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:02:04 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda Message-ID: <47A4CC3C.2030003@sbcglobal.net> This is a call for agenda items for Thursday February 7-th. Thus far the only suggestion has been a suggestion re establishing boycotts. Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 2 22:47:06 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:47:06 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] getting on the balot in June Message-ID: <47A5636A.4070308@sbcglobal.net> There is an opportunity to have a list of Green Party candidates on the ballot in the June election. The requirement is that there be at least 8 candidates who have filed what the registrar of voters calls "Nomination Papers" that have at least 20 valid signatures from Green Party members. The signature gathering period is from February 11- th until March 8-th. Each Green Party member, i.e., registered Green, can sign the nomination papers for up to 7 candidates but not more than 7 candidates The duties of the members of the county council are given in the bylaws which are available at .http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/bylaws.shtml However, here are the two paragraphs that describe the bulk of the duties of the members of the county council: 2.1.3 Internal to the Green Party, the Council's primary duties include serving as a coordinating or steering committee to: a) Facilitate communications between Green Party members within the county, at county meetings, and between locals within the county. b) Facilitate communications between the county Green Party and the State Green Party. c) Assist Green Party involvement in elections in the county (including recruiting, advising and assisting Green Party candidates, co-ordinating voter registration efforts and tabling, and supporting ballot issues effecting issues of concern to the state or county Green Party). d) Enhance communications between the county Green Party and other Green Parties and/or other local organizations which support the principals and objectives set forth in the Green Party Platform. e) Oversee and assist the work of committees formed by the Council, or outside the Council by the Party's members, to help carry out the above duties, or other duties considered necessary that are not in conflict with these ByLaws; such as an electoral reform committee, an environmental issues committee, etc. 2.1.4 The County Council shall act as the designated contact persons for the Green Party of Santa Clara County, and refer interested people to persons who may be designated as spokespeople for the Party at a General County Meeting. Are you able and willing? Are you ready to stand for election? Then contact one of the current county council members - http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/contact.shtml has the list of current county council members with links to their email addresses. We await your email. From alexcathy at aol.com Sun Feb 3 08:30:04 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:30:04 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cynthia McKinney on GREEN Issues Message-ID: <8CA34992A611277-1374-50BC@webmail-nb11.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, Los Angeles, Sunday, February 3, 2008 -- It is two days before the California Primary. Accordingly, I am exercising the blogger's privilege to post information about my favorite candidate. See pasted below a video of a set of concise statements on Green Issues by former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney at the Green Party presidential debate. See my post on California Greening at: Cynthia McKinney on GREEN Issues Please note the contrast between Ms. McKinney statements and the empty "change" mantra from Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton currently being celebrated by the corporate media. Read more, view embedded video and leave a comment at: http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2008/02/cynthia-mckinney-on-green-issues.html? Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Sun Feb 3 19:45:06 2008 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:45:06 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] fundraising In-Reply-To: <47A4CBE1.2030104@sbcglobal.net> References: <47A4CBE1.2030104@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <47A68A42.3090301@greens.org> Jim Doyle wrote: > The late filing fines have been settled. > The treasury has been emptied - to less than $100. > > Conclusion: fundraising is necessary and urgent. > > Make your suggestions for fundraising and fundraising events. > > Jim Doyle > (treasurer's hat this time) > -----Original Message----- From: gpca-ccwg-bounces at cagreens.org [mailto:gpca-ccwg-bounces at cagreens.org] On Behalf Of civillib at comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:28 AM To: bea tiritilli Cc: gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [GPCA-CCWG] fundraising for candidates The BEST fundraisers we did in Sacramento for the Driscoll congressional campaigns in 2004 and 2005 (special election) were yard sales. Strange as it seems, each one netted more than $1,000. With that we did, I think, the first radio and eventually TV spots for GreenParty Congressional candidates. FYI. Cres bea tiritilli wrote: > My church recently put together a nifty, easy > fundraiser I thought might translate well into a Green > fundraiser: recipe books. We could collect "green" > recipes (all natural ingredients, vegetarian and vegan > entries encouraged). There's a company in Nebraska > that does all the work if you provide the recipes. My > church sold our books for only $10 and still made a > profit. > > If enough people promise to submit recipes, I'll > organize the fundraiser, and all profits would go to > support GP candidates. Please contact me at > tiritilligreen at sbcglobal.net if interested in > participating. > > -Bea Tiritilli > _______________________________________________ From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 4 16:45:15 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:45:15 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council election Message-ID: <47A7B19B.7020507@sbcglobal.net> There is an opportunity to have a list of Green Party candidates on the ballot in the June election. The requirement is that there be at least 8 candidates who have filed what the registrar of voters calls "Nomination Papers" that have at least 20 valid signatures from Green Party members. The signature gathering period is from February 11- th until March 8-th. Each Green Party member, i.e., registered Green, can sign the nomination papers for up to 7 candidates but not more than 7 candidates The duties of the members of the county council are given in the bylaws which are available at .http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/bylaws.shtml However, here are the two paragraphs that describe the bulk of the duties of the members of the county council: 2.1.3 Internal to the Green Party, the Council's primary duties include serving as a coordinating or steering committee to: a) Facilitate communications between Green Party members within the county, at county meetings, and between locals within the county. b) Facilitate communications between the county Green Party and the State Green Party. c) Assist Green Party involvement in elections in the county (including recruiting, advising and assisting Green Party candidates, co-ordinating voter registration efforts and tabling, and supporting ballot issues effecting issues of concern to the state or county Green Party). d) Enhance communications between the county Green Party and other Green Parties and/or other local organizations which support the principals and objectives set forth in the Green Party Platform. e) Oversee and assist the work of committees formed by the Council, or outside the Council by the Party's members, to help carry out the above duties, or other duties considered necessary that are not in conflict with these ByLaws; such as an electoral reform committee, an environmental issues committee, etc. 2.1.4 The County Council shall act as the designated contact persons for the Green Party of Santa Clara County, and refer interested people to persons who may be designated as spokespeople for the Party at a General County Meeting. Are you able and willing? Are you ready to stand for election? Then contact one of the current county council members - http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/contact.shtml has the list of current county council members with links to their email addresses. We await your email. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 4 17:22:18 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:22:18 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda Message-ID: <47A7BA4A.3030808@sbcglobal.net> Last call for meeting agenda items. Current list of suggested items: treasurer's report fundraising goals to fundraise for mailings June, August/September, October boycott Iraq war 5 yr anniversary protests Project Vote Smart Tour Green Focus Juneteenth County Council Candidates Feb 11 - Mar 7 for signature gathering; May 6 - Jun 3 for the election status of bylaws amendment coordination regional rep candidates, and alternates Peter Myers campaign campaign infrastructure tabling events From wrolley at charter.net Mon Feb 4 19:41:29 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:41:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda In-Reply-To: <47A7BA4A.3030808@sbcglobal.net> References: <47A7BA4A.3030808@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <47A7DAE9.9090408@charter.net> Jim Doyle wrote: May I suggest that we start thinking about doing something on Earth Day? Wes > Last call for meeting agenda items. > > Current list of suggested items: > > treasurer's report > fundraising > goals to fundraise for > mailings June, August/September, October > boycott > Iraq war 5 yr anniversary protests > Project Vote Smart Tour > Green Focus > Juneteenth > County Council Candidates Feb 11 - Mar 7 for signature gathering; > May 6 - Jun 3 for the election > status of bylaws amendment coordination > regional rep candidates, and alternates > Peter Myers campaign > campaign infrastructure > tabling events > -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Feb 5 02:02:00 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:02:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Vote by 7 PM! Then come on down to my election night party if you can... Message-ID: <47A83418.6010801@aceweb.com> The gist is Greens please vote for Cynthia McKinney. Good luck to everybody else! After that come on down. The details are at: http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/My/LivingRoom/PostcardArtJan08.html Please bring something you want to share if you can. If you're in another area you have other opportunities. Think globally, act locally and all that. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added State of the Union party at St. Stephens pictures. I recommend voting for Cynthia McKinney on Feb 5th in the Green Primary! From wrolley at charter.net Tue Feb 5 12:29:09 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:29:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Morgan Hill Public Workshop 2/7/08] Message-ID: <47A8C715.2070809@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From egroups at duendevision.com Wed Feb 6 12:03:48 2008 From: egroups at duendevision.com (Duende) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:03:48 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who Won? In-Reply-To: <47A8C715.2070809@charter.net> References: <47A8C715.2070809@charter.net> Message-ID: <56739193-F33F-4260-B7B3-FB367AD53C65@duendevision.com> First I went to the Green PArt y Website and then I googled. I then went to CNN and MSNBC and nada. I'm going to try Fox news now :-( BUt can anyone point me to election results that cover more than the corporate party(s) PEace Duende On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > Land use and Agriculture in the Santa Clara Valley > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Morgan Hill Public Workshop 2/7/08 > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:14:56 -0800 > From: Michele Beasley > To: mbeasley at greenbelt.org > > Hello, > > This Thursday, there will be a public workshop in Morgan Hill on the > following issues: > > a) Exploration of Sports-Recreation-Leisure and Public Facility > Uses in the Southeast Quadrant (SEQ) > b) City of Morgan Hill Agricultural Mitigation Policies and > Preservation Program > c) Urban Limit Line for SEQ > > When: Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:00pm > Where: Community and Cultural Center, 17000 Monterey Road, Morgan Hill > El Toro Room > > Greenbelt Alliance is encouraged that Morgan Hill has been pursuing > Agricultural Mitigation policies as part of their Greenbelt > Policies. It is important that these policies are strong and will > actually lead to the protection of working farms. This workshop is > a good opportunity for city staff to present their studies and to > receive public input regarding their content and recommendations. > Make your voice heard! > > The City also continues to debate whether or not the SEQ should be > within city limits. Morgan Hill has plenty of room to grow within > their current limits and Urban Growth Boundary. The SEQ should be a > community separator between Morgan Hill and San Martin, preserving > your community?s natural identity. This workshop will also present > an opportunity to learn more about the City?s intention for > recreational uses in the SEQ. Is this the best use of the land? > Should the SEQ instead be a recipient for Agricultural Mitigation > funding? > > To learn more about the Public Workshop, please go here: > http://www.morgan-hill.ca.gov/html/new/upcoming.asp?category_id=240000679 > > To read up on Morgan Hill?s Environmental Agenda, please go here: > http://www.morgan-hill.ca.gov/Upload/Document/D240004809/Adopted%20Environmental%20Agenda%20V1.0.pdf > > and please note Guiding Principle #2 > > Lastly, I often hear that farming is no longer viable in Santa Clara > County. Is this what they will soon be saying in the Central > Valley? Many folks believe there will be a resurgence in the > popularity of locally grown produce. Let?s do whatever we can to > preserve the remaining working farms of South Santa Clara before > they are lost forever. Below are some links regarding a sustainable > food system in California and the Slow Food Movement which stated in > Italy. > > http://www.bamco.com/website/eatlocal.html > > http://www.slowfoodusa.org/ > > http://www.slowfoodnation.org/ > > http://www.rocfund.org/ > > http://www.vividpicture.net/ > > Hope to see you Thursday evening! > > -- > Michele Beasley > South Bay Field Representative > Greenbelt Alliance > 1922 The Alameda, Suite 213 > San Jose, CA 95126 > (408) 983-0856 > mbeasley at greenbelt.org > > Greenbelt Alliance, the Bay Area's advocate for open spaces and > vibrant places -- for 50 years. > Join us. www.greenbelt.org > > > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you > don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ________________________________________________________ "If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you." 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Tian Duende wrote: > First I went to the Green PArt y Website and then I googled. I then went > to CNN and MSNBC and nada. I'm going to try Fox news now :-( BUt can > anyone point me to election results that cover more than the corporate > party(s) > > PEace > > Duende > > On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > >> Land use and Agriculture in the Santa Clara Valley >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Morgan Hill Public Workshop 2/7/08 >> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:14:56 -0800 >> From: Michele Beasley >> To: mbeasley at greenbelt.org >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> This Thursday, there will be a public workshop in Morgan Hill on the >> following issues: >> >> a) Exploration of Sports-Recreation-Leisure and Public Facility >> Uses in the Southeast Quadrant (SEQ) >> b) City of Morgan Hill Agricultural Mitigation Policies and >> Preservation Program >> c) Urban Limit Line for SEQ >> >> When: Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:00pm >> Where: Community and Cultural Center, 17000 Monterey Road, Morgan Hill >> El Toro Room >> >> Greenbelt Alliance is encouraged that Morgan Hill has been pursuing >> Agricultural Mitigation policies as part of their Greenbelt Policies. >> It is important that these policies are strong and will actually lead >> to the protection of working farms. This workshop is a good >> opportunity for city staff to present their studies and to receive >> public input regarding their content and recommendations. Make your >> voice heard! >> >> The City also continues to debate whether or not the SEQ should be >> within city limits. Morgan Hill has plenty of room to grow within >> their current limits and Urban Growth Boundary. The SEQ should be a >> community separator between Morgan Hill and San Martin, preserving >> your community?s natural identity. This workshop will also present an >> opportunity to learn more about the City?s intention for recreational >> uses in the SEQ. /Is this the best use of the land? Should the SEQ >> instead be a recipient for Agricultural Mitigation funding? >> / >> To learn more about the Public Workshop, please go here: >> http://www.morgan-hill.ca.gov/html/new/upcoming.asp?category_id=240000679 >> >> To read up on Morgan Hill?s Environmental Agenda, please go here: >> http://www.morgan-hill.ca.gov/Upload/Document/D240004809/Adopted%20Environmental%20Agenda%20V1.0.pdf >> >> >> and please note Guiding Principle #2 >> >> Lastly, I often hear that farming is no longer viable in Santa Clara >> County. Is this what they will soon be saying in the Central Valley? >> Many folks believe there will be a resurgence in the popularity of >> locally grown produce. Let?s do whatever we can to preserve the >> remaining working farms of South Santa Clara before they are lost >> forever. Below are some links regarding a sustainable food system in >> California and the Slow Food Movement which stated in Italy. >> >> http://www.bamco.com/website/eatlocal.html >> >> http://www.slowfoodusa.org/ >> >> http://www.slowfoodnation.org/ >> >> http://www.rocfund.org/ >> >> http://www.vividpicture.net/ >> >> Hope to see you Thursday evening! >> >> -- >> Michele Beasley >> South Bay Field Representative >> Greenbelt Alliance >> 1922 The Alameda, Suite 213 >> San Jose, CA 95126 >> (408) 983-0856 >> mbeasley at greenbelt.org >> >> Greenbelt Alliance, the Bay Area's advocate for open spaces and >> vibrant places -- for 50 years. >> Join us. * www.greenbelt.org >> >> * >> >> >> -- >> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente >> >> Wes Rolley >> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 >> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > ________________________________________________________ > "If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise > they'll kill you." > > Oscar Wilde > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org I recommend voting for Cynthia McKinney on Feb 5th in the Green Primary! Come on down to my election night party if you're in this area! From egroups at duendevision.com Wed Feb 6 20:17:14 2008 From: egroups at duendevision.com (Duende) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:17:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who Won? In-Reply-To: <47AA3E9D.5000803@aceweb.com> References: <47A8C715.2070809@charter.net> <56739193-F33F-4260-B7B3-FB367AD53C65@duendevision.com> <47AA3E9D.5000803@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <98FBD502-6E88-4D18-9EF6-98252B46112B@duendevision.com> Thanks Tian. I love Ralph but really thought Cynthia would have added another dimension to the much needed assault on Empire Amerika. Also Ralph looked really tired up in the city. Now that you've been so kind as to direct me to the State results do you have any idea the national results? I'd have come to your parties but I've been spending a lot of time in Walnut Creek. Peace Duende On Feb 6, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > Here is the current official total: > > http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/pres/grn/59.htm > > The gist of it: > > Ralph Nader (Grn) 17,065 61.2 % > Cynthia McKinney (Grn) 7,178 25.8 % > Elaine Brown (Grn) 1,275 4.6 % > Kat Swift (Grn) 857 3.0 % > Kent Mesplay (Grn) 565 2.0 % > Jesse Johnson (Grn) 512 1.8 % > Jared Ball (Grn) 451 1.6 % > > I don't think anybody will switch places on the list, but I expect all > the numbers to grow a bit. The percentages won't change much. > > At the bottom of that page are a bunch of links to other contest > pages. > > Tian > > Duende wrote: >> First I went to the Green PArt y Website and then I googled. I then >> went >> to CNN and MSNBC and nada. I'm going to try Fox news now :-( BUt can >> anyone point me to election results that cover more than the >> corporate >> party(s) >> >> PEace >> >> Duende >> >> On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: >> >>> Land use and Agriculture in the Santa Clara Valley >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Morgan Hill Public Workshop 2/7/08 >>> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:14:56 -0800 >>> From: Michele Beasley >>> To: mbeasley at greenbelt.org >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> This Thursday, there will be a public workshop in Morgan Hill on the >>> following issues: >>> >>> a) Exploration of Sports-Recreation-Leisure and Public Facility >>> Uses in the Southeast Quadrant (SEQ) >>> b) City of Morgan Hill Agricultural Mitigation Policies and >>> Preservation Program >>> c) Urban Limit Line for SEQ >>> >>> When: Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:00pm >>> Where: Community and Cultural Center, 17000 Monterey Road, Morgan >>> Hill >>> El Toro Room >>> >>> Greenbelt Alliance is encouraged that Morgan Hill has been pursuing >>> Agricultural Mitigation policies as part of their Greenbelt >>> Policies. >>> It is important that these policies are strong and will actually >>> lead >>> to the protection of working farms. This workshop is a good >>> opportunity for city staff to present their studies and to receive >>> public input regarding their content and recommendations. Make your >>> voice heard! >>> >>> The City also continues to debate whether or not the SEQ should be >>> within city limits. Morgan Hill has plenty of room to grow within >>> their current limits and Urban Growth Boundary. The SEQ should be a >>> community separator between Morgan Hill and San Martin, preserving >>> your community?s natural identity. This workshop will also >>> present an >>> opportunity to learn more about the City?s intention for >>> recreational >>> uses in the SEQ. /Is this the best use of the land? Should the SEQ >>> instead be a recipient for Agricultural Mitigation funding? >>> / >>> To learn more about the Public Workshop, please go here: >>> http://www.morgan-hill.ca.gov/html/new/upcoming.asp?category_id=240000679 >>> >>> To read up on Morgan Hill?s Environmental Agenda, please go here: >>> http://www.morgan-hill.ca.gov/Upload/Document/D240004809/Adopted%20Environmental%20Agenda%20V1.0.pdf >>> >>> >>> and please note Guiding Principle #2 >>> >>> Lastly, I often hear that farming is no longer viable in Santa Clara >>> County. Is this what they will soon be saying in the Central >>> Valley? >>> Many folks believe there will be a resurgence in the popularity of >>> locally grown produce. Let?s do whatever we can to preserve the >>> remaining working farms of South Santa Clara before they are lost >>> forever. Below are some links regarding a sustainable food system >>> in >>> California and the Slow Food Movement which stated in Italy. >>> >>> http://www.bamco.com/website/eatlocal.html >>> >>> http://www.slowfoodusa.org/ >>> >>> http://www.slowfoodnation.org/ >>> >>> http://www.rocfund.org/ >>> >>> http://www.vividpicture.net/ >>> >>> Hope to see you Thursday evening! >>> >>> -- >>> Michele Beasley >>> South Bay Field Representative >>> Greenbelt Alliance >>> 1922 The Alameda, Suite 213 >>> San Jose, CA 95126 >>> (408) 983-0856 >>> mbeasley at greenbelt.org >>> >>> Greenbelt Alliance, the Bay Area's advocate for open spaces and >>> vibrant places -- for 50 years. >>> Join us. * www.greenbelt.org >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you >>> don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto >>> Clemente >>> >>> Wes Rolley >>> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 >>> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> ________________________________________________________ >> "If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise >> they'll kill you." >> >> Oscar Wilde >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > I recommend voting for Cynthia McKinney on Feb 5th in the Green > Primary! > Come on down to my election night party if you're in this area! > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _______________________________________________ "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 6 21:31:05 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:31:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] no GP ballot at a polling place Message-ID: <47AA9799.4070707@sbcglobal.net> When Merriam went to vote last night, the polling place where she votes did not have Green Party ballots. She was able to vote using her sample ballot that she had with her. She plans to visit the ROV office tomorrow, Thursday, to complain. --- From wrolley at charter.net Thu Feb 7 09:55:08 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:55:08 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: no GP ballot at a polling place] Message-ID: <47AB45FC.8010303@charter.net> FYI. Here is another example of the "poor planning" type of error. In Alameda County, it was for Independents. Here, for Greens, etc. In general, I do not think that elections officials around the state were prepared for the size of the turnout in a primary election. I think that this owes very much to the excitement that has been engendered by the Obama campaign. Election officials are caught between having to adhere to ever shrinking budgets and being prepared for any contingency. It is reasonable to expect them to get it wrong some of the time. One of the reasons that elections officials around the country liked the idea of computerized, touch-screen voting, is the fact that it would keep them from every having to be in this bind. If they every figure out the proper way to get it right on touch-screen voting, then they should be very, very happy. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] no GP ballot at a polling place Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:31:05 -0800 From: Jim Doyle To: sosfbay discussion group When Merriam went to vote last night, the polling place where she votes did not have Green Party ballots. She was able to vote using her sample ballot that she had with her. She plans to visit the ROV office tomorrow, Thursday, to complain. --- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From truekahuna at comcast.net Thu Feb 7 10:24:39 2008 From: truekahuna at comcast.net (Bert) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:24:39 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] [Fwd: no GP ballot at a polling place] In-Reply-To: <47AB45FC.8010303@charter.net> References: <47AB45FC.8010303@charter.net> Message-ID: <47AB4CE7.3020600@comcast.net> Wes, You've hit on a perfectly valid argument in favor of touch screens. Carrying a little water on this...suppose there were a touch screen system that didn't connect to some game-able network but simply printed out a ballot "with all the little ovals filled in". So then the voter takes that printed ballot, verifies it by eye, and drops it in a box. You make a mistake, a poll workers just shreds the printed ballot and you hit it again. Saves County Registrars money, solves the problem of not enough paper ballots, and it is voter verifiable. And, this makes no argument one way or another about central tabulating equipment (different worms, different can). I wonder if anybody makes something like that. Better yet, let's form a Green Party company and start making one. Call it our entry into the 10KV of electoral capitalism. Bert Wes Rolley wrote: > FYI. Here is another example of the "poor planning" type of error. In > Alameda County, it was for Independents. Here, for Greens, etc. > > In general, I do not think that elections officials around the state > were prepared for the size of the turnout in a primary election. I > think that this owes very much to the excitement that has been > engendered by the Obama campaign. Election officials are caught between > having to adhere to ever shrinking budgets and being prepared for any > contingency. It is reasonable to expect them to get it wrong some of > the time. > > One of the reasons that elections officials around the country liked the > idea of computerized, touch-screen voting, is the fact that it would > keep them from every having to be in this bind. If they every figure > out the proper way to get it right on touch-screen voting, then they > should be very, very happy. > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] no GP ballot at a polling place > Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:31:05 -0800 > From: Jim Doyle > To: sosfbay discussion group > > > > When Merriam went to vote last night, the polling place where she votes > did not have Green Party ballots. > She was able to vote using her sample ballot that she had with her. > She plans to visit the ROV office tomorrow, Thursday, to complain. > --- > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Thu Feb 7 10:59:12 2008 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us) Date: 7 Feb 2008 18:59:12 -0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] [Fwd: no GP ballot at a polling place] Message-ID: <20080207185912.25982.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> >Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:24:39 -0800 >From: "Bert" >User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) >To: wrolley at charter.net >References: <47AB45FC.8010303 at charter.net> >In-Reply-To: <47AB45FC.8010303 at charter.net> >Cc: Green Discuss , > GPCA Media Comm >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] [Fwd: no GP ballot at a > polling place] >Wes, >You've hit on a perfectly valid argument in favor of touch screens. >Carrying a little water on this...suppose there were a touch screen >system that didn't connect to some game-able network but simply printed >out a ballot "with all the little ovals filled in". So then the voter >takes that printed ballot, verifies it by eye, and drops it in a box. That's Open Voting Consortium's system. Their ballot printer also prints a cryptographic signature on the ballot so it can be traced back to the individual voting machine. The format is open so true recounts can be performed using independently developed and maintained machinery. Ideally each party or candidate could bring its own scanner and do its own recount. This notion of an electronic voting system that does not require trustworthy equipment is being called "software independence" and I sure wish the "paper trails paper trails paper trails" zombies would pick up on it. >I wonder if anybody makes something like that. Better yet, let's form a >Green Party company and start making one. Call it our entry into the >10KV of electoral capitalism. OVC staged a successful demonstration in one of the Dem parties' straw polls this year. http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/blog/2008-jan-14/open_voting_process_demonstrated_in_san_luis_obispo One of the hurdles the corporate parties have put up is it costs a quarter million dollars to get a voting machine federally certified, and the vendor pays. Trivial for Diebold, and it keeps universities and NGOs from competing with them. Cameron From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Feb 7 11:14:18 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:14:18 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] U.S. Invaded other countries over 200 times Message-ID: <47AB588A.4050809@earthlink.net> First, America is a country that is comfortable with war. In the 230 years since the Declaration of Independence, the US has invaded other countries on more than 200 occasions, according to the Congressional Research Service. That is an average of one foreign incursion every 14 months in the nation's history. http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/07/6905/ From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Feb 7 11:50:36 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:50:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] no GP ballot at a polling place In-Reply-To: <47AA9799.4070707@sbcglobal.net> References: <47AA9799.4070707@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <47AB610C.1000801@aceweb.com> When I went to vote they had to hunt for the Green Party ballots. It was confusing because they had orange strips, just like the AIP ballots. We finally found them. In the end I was able to cast my vote exactly the way I wanted to. Tian Jim Doyle wrote: > When Merriam went to vote last night, the polling place where she votes > did not have Green Party ballots. > She was able to vote using her sample ballot that she had with her. > She plans to visit the ROV office tomorrow, Thursday, to complain. > --- > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Sad to say Cynthia McKinney came in 2nd on Feb 5th in the Green Primary. See my pictures from the election night party on my website (URL above). From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 8 11:29:24 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:29:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] global greens congress in brasil Message-ID: <47ACAD94.3090905@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ____________________________________ Second Global Greens Congress 1?4 May 2008, S?o Paulo, Brazil Think and act globally and locally http://www.globalgreens.org/brazil2008 http://www.globalgreens.org.br ________________________________________ Please forward to all Greens 1 January 2008 Global letter to Green parties and political movements Dear Friends As we count down to the Second Global Greens Congress in S?o Paulo Brazil, we are writing to provide you with some important planning information and to ask for your help in preparing for the meeting. Specifically, we are asking Green parties and political movements to help by publicizing the congress, by contributing funds and by facilitating a direct fundraising appeal to individual Greens supporters. 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(OFF TOPIC) References: Message-ID: <79125BE9-8800-481E-B53C-7C2ACA8ACF03@cagreens.org> FYI, gang. This is an important post for free-speech TV! Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: VAJeffery at aol.com > Date: February 6, 2008 4:00:52 PM PST > To: EWPIINI at aol.com, d.benedetti at sbcglobal.net, CARLMCCA at aol.com, > VJWalden at aol.com, CCAAJJ at msn.com, RonaldM124 at aol.com, > RuthCMo at aol.com, billmannion at sbcglobal.net, helbig at pacbell.net, > lynettwells at sbcglobal.net, andi at wrytor.com, > nickmarciaszabo at earthlink.net, myrnag1 at sbcglobal.net, > mpriel at comcast.net, phil at lenihan.org > Cc: bszabo at kmvt15.org > Subject: CMAP Press Release > > Our official communication..... > ? > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > February 6, 2008 > Contact: Jacqui Carrasco > Phone: 408.472.1692 > > > CMAP?s Director Moves on to San Jose Start-Up: > Executive Director Recruitment Underway > > Gilroy, CA ? After nearly seven years as the Executive Director of > Community Media Access Partnership, the community television > station for Gilroy, Hollister and San Juan Bautista, Suzanne St. > John-Crane will be leaving March 22. St. John-Crane has accepted > the position of Executive Director of the San Jose Community Media > Access Corporation, a multi-channel public and educational access > television station serving Comcast Cable and AT&T U-Verse customers > in San Jose. > > St. John-Crane was hired by CMAP?s Board in August of > 2001 as the organization?s first Executive Director. In the summer > of 2002, after hiring a few staff people, CMAP opened its doors to > residents who wanted to do their own television shows. CMAP went > live on four channels on January 10, 2003. > > Over the last six years, St. John-Crane has been heavily involved > in engaging the community in using CMAP as an outlet for > publicizing opinions, ideas, and local events. She has overseen > collaborative projects with dozens of non-profits and schools over > the years, including MACSA, Marguerite Maze School, Gilroy High > School, the San Benito County Office of Education and Kaiser > Permanente. In 2006, St. John-Crane worked with a team of ?PEG? > advocates to have California statewide video franchising > legislation amended so that access station funding would be > protected in the state of California. > > ?CMAP has been an incredible training ground for me. > I?m grateful for the opportunities I?ve had at CMAP, and know > that this station will continue to thrive under new leadership.? > St. John-Crane says. > > She will continue in her role as the Program Director for > Leadership Gilroy, taking on that post in January. ?I?m glad > that my work with Leadership will bring me back to the area a > couple of times a month.? > > CMAP?s Board has begun the recruitment process for St. > John-Crane?s replacement. ?The search is on for a new Executive > Director to continue the excellent work already in progress and > take us to the next level.? says CMAP Board Chair, Val Jeffery. > ?There are projects in the works, such as streaming video and we > are looking for a leader who shares our passion for community > television to help us get there.? Interested applicants can > contact CMAP for information at 408-846-4983, or go to CMAP?s > website at www.mycmap.org. > > > > > Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL > Music.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: clip_image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2087 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: clip_image002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2087 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pmyers42 at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 19:52:09 2008 From: pmyers42 at gmail.com (Peter Myers) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 19:52:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help needed gathering signatures in 15th district Message-ID: Hey everyone, My campaign for the U.S. House of Representatives seat currently held by Mike Honda is off to a good start, but without gathering 150 signatures by February 20th, it'll be harder to get on the ballot. I need volunteers who live in the district to call people off a registered Green voter list and gather signatures. You can dedicate as little or as much time as you are able to, but the bottom line is that it's a big job to reach out to so many people. I have approximately a third of the necessary signatures, but I need a lot more. If you can help, please e-mail me at pmyers42 at gmail.com or peter at myersforcalifornia.com . Thanks, Peter Peter Myers pmyers42 at gmail.com http://www.myersforcalifornia.com 200 Hollis Ave. #45 Campbell, CA 95008 408-242-4212 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 9 15:18:30 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 15:18:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] film on health care Message-ID: <47AE34C6.80007@sbcglobal.net> CRITICAL CONDITION paints a gripping portrait of what happens when you?re sick and uninsured in America. The unforgettable subjects of this cinema verit? film discover that being uncovered can cost them their jobs, health, homes, savings, and even their lives. Please join us for the world premiere of this new documentary by Roger Weisberg at the Cinequest Film Festival. SATURDAY, MARCH 1, 2008 AT 12:30PM AND SUNDAY MARCH 2, 2008 AT 2:00PM CAMERA 12, 201 SOUTH SECOND STREET, SAN JOSE, CA From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Feb 10 13:02:21 2008 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:02:21 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Canopy repaired by Brian Good Message-ID: <47AF665D.4060507@truffula.sj.ca.us> Yesterday Brian returned our tabling canopy with the bent and broken parts repaired. I tested it. It works. It's in my garage now. Thanks Brian! Cameron From fredd at freeshell.org Sun Feb 10 18:16:25 2008 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:16:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Importan Animal rotection Hearing Message-ID: <47AFAFF9.4000805@freeshell.org> On Tuesday Feb. 12, at 9:30 am, there will be a County Board Hearing on whether, or not, Circuses and Rodeos that feature performing animals will be banned from Santa Clara County for humanitarian reasons. People who would be in favor of the ban are asked to help by attending the meeting and/or contacting County Board Supervisors. The address of the County Government Center, where the hearing will take place, is 70 W. Hedding Street, San Jose, CA 95110. For more information, use this: http://www.api4animals.org/actionalerts.php/p=1490&move=1 Fred D. From fredd at freeshell.org Sun Feb 10 18:21:24 2008 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:21:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] film on health care Message-ID: <47AFB124.4000007@freeshell.org> CRITICAL CONDITION paints a gripping portrait of what happens when you?re sick and uninsured in America. The unforgettable subjects of this cinema verit? film discover that being uncovered can cost them their jobs, health, homes, savings, and even their lives. Please join us for the world premiere of this new documentary by Roger Weisberg at the Cinequest Film Festival. SATURDAY, MARCH 1, 2008 AT 12:30PM AND SUNDAY MARCH 2, 2008 AT 2:00PM CAMERA 12, 201 SOUTH SECOND STREET, SAN JOSE, CA _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 11 08:45:18 2008 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:45:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Corporations Have Right to Kill In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <986363.72746.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://www.infraguard.net/ This is almost too insane to be true. I heard this from Matt Rothschild (editor of The Progressive) on Democracy Now! this morning. Apparently it's an FBI program that updates 23,000+ (including 350+ of the Fortune 500 companies) business leaders daily on security risks, updates that are not released to the American public or local governments. Also, during the event of martial law (which is currently legal for the President to declare in the United States), these corporations are authorized to kill anyone who attempts to intervene in their operations. -Edward --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Mon Feb 11 13:10:25 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:10:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Let's Talk About Race? NO! Let's Not In-Reply-To: <8CA2E94329F690F-288-69B@webmail-nc10.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA2E94329F690F-288-69B@webmail-nc10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B94115C-F667-4454-A97D-97441B10D2D8@cagreens.org> Here's another interesting perspective, Alex. Have you seen this from TOM PAINE, blog by David Sirota writing about the 2008 Class War? What's your take on his comments? --------------------------------- The two taboo subjects in American politics, class and race, are now front and center in the Democratic nominating contest. As my new nationally syndicated newspaper column shows, the former is driving voting behavior and the biases against the latter are making it more difficult for Barack Obama to court lower-income voters. Exit polls show Hillary Clinton winning votes from those making under $50,000 a year. She is the candidate of NAFTA, the candidate on the cover of Fortune magazine, the candidate of Big Money. And yet, she is winning the working class. Much of that, as I say, has to do with Obama not running an economically populist or class-based campaign. He simply hasn't been appealing to working-class voters in any direct way. That tactical decision, of course, has at least something to do with the fact that Obama, too, raises huge amounts of corporate cash?cash that would not necessarily come to him if he started talking about corporate power, inequality and greed. But the decision also likely has to do with the fact that Obama knows that if he voiced a more full-throated populism, he would be depicted in the media as a race-centric candidate?even if his populism was race-blind. As my column shows, power-challenging African-American politicians have been marginalized in this way for the better part of a half century. The moment a black leader talks about class or threatens the Establishment, he or she is billed as a race-centric radical. The best contemporary example of this came from Time Magazine's Joe Klein. In a 2006 column that no one other than the blogosphere flagged as wildly offensive, Klein called populist Rep. John Conyers as: "An African American of a certain age and ideology, easily stereotyped [and] one of the ancient band of left-liberals who grew up in the angry hothouse of inner-city, racial-preference politics." The problem for Obama is the big states coming up in the contest. As National Journal's Ron Brownstein reports, the key contests on March 4th are Texas and Ohio. "In both states, the upscale white voters who have bolstered Obama are scarce," Brownstein reports. Put another way, Obama needs to make some sort of populist pitch to speak directly to these voters, but is constrained by his knowledge that the media and the Clinton machine will quickly label him "the black candidate" if he does just that. That last point about the Clintons is very important. It was no coincidence that the moment Obama started talking about NAFTA and class in South Carolina, Bill Clinton made an unprompted remark likening Obama to Jesse Jackson, and an unnamed Clinton aide told the Associated Press Obama is "the black candidate." The Clintons are playing an ugly game. On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:39 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Dear Friends, > > See below excerpts and a link to my blog post. > > Let's Talk About Race? NO! Let's Not > > by Alex Walker > Sat, 01/26/2008 - 7:26pm. > > Barack Obama says: "The press has been focused, almost, you know, > maniacally, on the issue of race." Meanwhile, a chorus of self- > serving, neurotic black intellectuals who supposedly love Brother > Barack, bleat: "Let's talk about race!" > > No. Let's not. > > The New York Times endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton for the > Democratic nomination. This pompous, condescending, intellectually- > dishonest, hypocritical editorial reminded me of all the things I > disliked about New York "liberals" when I lived in New York through > the "Reagan Revolution." It reminded me of Murray Kempton's > observation about New York Times editors waiting "till after the > battle to come down from the hills to shoot the wounded." While > gently urging Clinton "to take the lead in changing the tone of the > campaign," the supposedly "ultra-liberal" NYT sneered at the "raw > populism" of John Edwards and contrasted the "incandescent" Obama > with the "brilliant" Clinton. Never mind that Hillary may be the > most polarizing, hate-inspiring politician today, the NYT says "We > know" Clinton is "capable of both uniting and leading." > One of the juiciest parts was the way the New York Times trashed > Rudy Giuliani: > The real Mr. Giuliani, whom many New Yorkers came to know and > mistrust, is a narrow, obsessively secretive, vindictive man who > saw no need to limit police power. Racial polarization was as much > a legacy of his tenure as the rebirth of Times Square. > Almost eight years after Giuliani left office as Mayor and more > than ten years after they enthusiastically endorsed Rudy for > reelection in 1997, the so-called Newspaper of Record finally > discovered that a crypto-fascist was running their own city for > eight years. > > . . . > > We know we cannot trust the media to deal fairly with the race > question within this context because of the way they continue to > indulge their irrational hatred of Jesse Jackson. > > . . . > > In 1988 Jesse Jackson won 11 primaries and 4 caucuses, including a > 55% landslide in Michigan. On "Super Tuesday" Jackson won Virginia, > Louisiana, Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama. His second place > showing in Wisconsin, a state with a small black population, > garnered more votes than Gary Hart's win in 1984. At one point > Jackson led in delegates and in the polls. Jesse stirred white > farmers in Minnesota, white miners in West Virginia, and Latino > trade unionists in Colorado, another state with few blacks. Gentle > reader, here's a good rule: Whenever a media blowhard says Jesse > was "just a black leader" and Barack is "the first serious black > candidate" you know this is a person too blinded by prejudice and > ideology to deal honestly with the race question in America. > > I have pondered this while considered Uzodinma Iweala's Op-Ed in > the Los Angeles Times criticizing the "media-concocted fiction" > that "not speaking about race is the equivalent of making progress" > in race relations > > . . . > > US Income inequality has reached the highest levels since the > 1920s. The US today is the most unequal society in the > industrialized West. Funny, that even though class matters the > media never trots out bloviators crying "Let's talk about class." > > The awful truth is nearly 100% of prominent black intellectuals > advocate "race talk" because they all rose to prominence doing > "race talk" (including "color-blind" conservative hypocrites like > Thomas Sowell and Shelby Steele). Los Angeles journalist Larry > Aubry and his daughter Erin Aubry-Kaplan are two generations of > race-talkers. The "media-concocted fiction" is that superficial > "race talk" is good for you. > > One of the definitions of insanity is doing the same thing over and > over expecting a different result and in recent years we've been > led down this same path a dozen times: > 1992 Rodney King violence. > 1994 Anti-immigrant Proposition 187. > 1995 O. J. Simpson case. > 1996 Anti-affirmative action Proposition 209. > 1998 President Clinton's "Conversation About Race." > 1999 Amadou Diallo, unarmed innocent man, killed by 41-shots from > N.Y.P.D. > 1999 Ramparts scandal at L.A.P.D. > 2000 Election in Florida - massive black disenfranchisement. > 2001 September 11th attack --- Our national slogan: "United We Stand." > 2005 Hurricane Katrina destroys New Orleans. > 2006 Immigration issue draws thousands into the streets. > 2008 L.A.F.D. discrimination case; L.A.P.D. MacArthur Park police > riot. > > Each time "race talk" quickly degenerated into a bunch of clich?s > and stereotypes. > > . . . > > As a black active Green Party man, I have no dog in this Barack - > Hillary fight. It's true Hillary shilled for Wal-Mart like > Inglewood, California's black Democratic Mayor Roosevelt Dorn. It's > true Barack carried water for a slumlord like Los Angeles > Democratic State Sen. Mark Ridley-Thomas carried water for Anschutz > Entertainment Group. You can't be a successful Democratic > politician in Little Rock or Chicago or New Orleans (or San > Francisco or Los Angeles) without playing ball with sleazy interests. > > Hillary and Barack agree with McCain and Romney about maintaining a > permanent US military presence in Iraq, which is all about our > planet-killing oil addiction. > > Hillary, Barack, and California Democrat Fabian N??ez agree with > McCain, Romney, and California Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger > that the first principle of health care is profit. > > Talk about ?change? and the Democratic Party in one-party > Democratic Los Angeles is a contradiction in terms. The > Establishment is, sure enough, kicking Barack Obama to the curb, > but not because of his race or his radicalism. The main "threat" > from Obama is the independent young voters he inspires which > strikes terror into the bipartisan Establishment. > > Let's talk about race? > > No. > > Let's not. > > Read More and Leave a Comment At: > > http://www.greencommons.org/node/952 > > > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail! > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Mon Feb 11 13:14:05 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:14:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Fwd=3A__OFF_SUBJECT=97Feral_Ca?= =?windows-1252?q?t_May_Have_Home=2E=2E=2E?= References: <65251649-E8CB-4AC8-88B2-B7748D6D99D1@cagreens.org> Message-ID: <82F1E5A2-E40B-467A-9267-EDD1FD47FEE5@cagreens.org> Thanks to you who responded, especially Rob Means, your concern much appreciated!! Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: Andrea Dorey > Date: January 17, 2008 8:17:06 AM PST > To: Green South Bay Discussion > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] OFF SUBJECT?SOS to catlovers... > > I've lost contact with a few of you, but here's the pitch: > > My cute little Tortoiseshell once-feral cat *needs* a home quickly! > She was part of a 7-cat feral litter, 5 of whom have been adopted. > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Mon Feb 11 13:28:24 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:28:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] film on health care In-Reply-To: <47AFB124.4000007@freeshell.org> References: <47AFB124.4000007@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <21721182-3202-4BF3-9218-C551C334DEB5@cagreens.org> I for one would be interested. Probably SUNDAY would work best for me after the HC meeting in Palo Alto. Anyone else going that day? Shall we meet in the lobby? (Free parking at the garage on 3rd Street.) Fred, I have a copy of SICKO if you ever want to show it at the Clubhouse for those who might have missed it. In fact, I have quite a collection of progressive political DVDs if you ever want to have a DVD showing before a panel/talk at the clubhouse, maybe while our working people eat their supper? Any interest? I can send a list of what I've got. Andrea On Feb 10, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Fred Duperrault wrote: > CRITICAL CONDITION paints a gripping portrait of what happens > when you?re > sick and uninsured in America. The unforgettable subjects of this > cinema > verit? film discover that being uncovered can cost them their jobs, > health, > homes, savings, and even their lives. > > Please join us for the world premiere of this new documentary by Roger > Weisberg at the Cinequest Film Festival. > > SATURDAY, MARCH 1, 2008 AT 12:30PM > AND SUNDAY MARCH 2, 2008 AT 2:00PM > CAMERA 12, 201 SOUTH SECOND STREET, SAN JOSE, CA > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Mon Feb 11 13:42:05 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:42:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] [Fwd: no GP ballot at a polling place] In-Reply-To: <20080207185912.25982.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20080207185912.25982.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <4D55C3CD-FBE5-45A2-8F5A-3060D27107BB@cagreens.org> I asked at Sunday's HC meeting in Palo Alto if anyone noticed the URL for tracking your ballot printed on your ballot. In a group of almost 100 people, only 1 man put up his hand! He had also checked on his ballot! (If you have your voting materials, take a look. I think it's a good idea to check up and keep this bunch on their toes. BTW, our local voting chief is the most conscientious in the nation: she refused to let offending electronic machines be used in Santa Clara County, in spite of some intense heat over it!) Andrea On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:59 AM, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:24:39 -0800 >> From: "Bert" >> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) >> To: wrolley at charter.net >> References: <47AB45FC.8010303 at charter.net> >> In-Reply-To: <47AB45FC.8010303 at charter.net> >> Cc: Green Discuss , >> GPCA Media Comm >> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] [Fwd: no GP ballot >> at a >> polling place] > >> Wes, > >> You've hit on a perfectly valid argument in favor of touch screens. > >> Carrying a little water on this...suppose there were a touch screen >> system that didn't connect to some game-able network but simply >> printed >> out a ballot "with all the little ovals filled in". So then the >> voter >> takes that printed ballot, verifies it by eye, and drops it in a box. > > That's Open Voting Consortium's system. > > Their ballot printer also prints a cryptographic signature > on the ballot so it can be traced back to the individual > voting machine. The format is open so true recounts can > be performed using independently developed and maintained > machinery. Ideally each party or candidate could bring > its own scanner and do its own recount. This notion > of an electronic voting system that does not require > trustworthy equipment is being called "software independence" > and I sure wish the "paper trails paper trails paper trails" > zombies would pick up on it. > > > >> I wonder if anybody makes something like that. Better yet, let's >> form a >> Green Party company and start making one. Call it our entry into the >> 10KV of electoral capitalism. > > OVC staged a successful demonstration in one of the Dem > parties' straw polls this year. > > http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/blog/2008-jan-14/ > open_voting_process_demonstrated_in_san_luis_obispo > > One of the hurdles the corporate parties have put up > is it costs a quarter million dollars to get a voting machine > federally certified, and the vendor pays. Trivial > for Diebold, and it keeps universities and NGOs > from competing with them. > > > Cameron > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From wrolley at charter.net Tue Feb 12 09:36:34 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:36:34 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Time to make a point Message-ID: <47B1D922.3030100@charter.net> Those of us who live in Morgan Hill have an opportunity to make a some very public points this month. State Senator Abel Maldonado is holding a Town Hall Forum in Morgan Hill: Thursday, Feb. 21 7:00 PM Morgan Hill Community and Cultural Center 17000 Monterey Road. The 15th State Senate District is a classic example of gerrymandering, Combining Morgan Hill with San Luis Obispo and Santa Maria but not even with Gilroy or any other part of the Santa Clara Valley. Republican Maldonado is Chairman of the Agriculture Committee... Yes, a Republican Committee Chair in a State Legislature dominated by Democrats... an accomodation that recognizes the fact that most heavily agricultural districts elect Republicans. He is also a member of the Select Committee on Coastal Protection and Watershed Conservation . I would like other Greens from Morgan Hill to join me and to question Maldonado on: 1. Regulation / prohibition of Genetically Engineered products in Agriculture, 2. Current obstructionism in the legislature that continue California's Water Wars. Let's make this another chance gain visibility for the Green Party. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 13 21:19:00 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:19:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] voting irregularities Message-ID: <47B3CF44.6050201@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE CIRCULATE! February 12, 2008 To All Green Party of California Voters: Various informal reports have been made about problems Green Party members encountered on Election Day (February 5, 2008). Those reports include being told that there were no Green Party ballots and that the Green Party did not exist. At this time anyone who had such difficulties casting a Green Party Primary Election ballot is requested to send a report to me at 867 North Fifth Street, San Jose, CA 95112-5021 or by email to _WB4D23 at aol.com _ (mailto:WB4D23 at aol.com) so the GPCA can send appropriate letters to local Registrars of Voters and to the Secretary of State. The following information is requested: Name of Complaining Voter; Name and Address of polling location; Precinct number (can be found on your voter's pamphlet -- send a report even if you do not have this information); and as detailed as possible a description of what happened (including name and position of offending person, if possible). These reports will be collected during the next 30 days and then a summary will be made. Please contact me if you have any questions about this project. Warner Bloomberg CCWG Coordinator (408-295-9353) _wsb3attyca at aol.com _ (mailto:wsb3attyca at aol.com) _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Feb 13 22:15:14 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:15:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Forum re Corporations Message-ID: <47B3DC72.4000801@earthlink.net> You might be interested in a presentation on corporations this Sunday, Feb 17, 11AM to Noon in Palo Alto. (Lunch is free to first time attendees.) "Challenging Corporate Power" http://humanists.org/forums2008.htm#latest Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Feb 16 18:16:19 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:16:19 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Accountability and our Reps Message-ID: <47B798F3.50107@earthlink.net> Here is an article about the recent vote on contempt of Congress by Bush officials: "An Accountability Moment That Must Not End" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/15/7087/ Eshoo, Lofgren, and McNerney voted for it. Honda did not vote. Note: For more info on the vote: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll060.xml Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Feb 16 21:08:41 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:08:41 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Review of Book about Joshka Fischer Message-ID: <47B7C159.6060407@earthlink.net> The Nation Magazine, February 25 issue has a book review titles "Green Days" about the book "Joschka Fischer and the Making of the Berlin Republic: An Alternative History of Postwar Germany". It tells a lot about Joschka Fischer's history. http://www.thenation.com/docprem.mhtml?i=20080225&s=rabinbach Gerry From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Feb 17 09:39:07 2008 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us) Date: 17 Feb 2008 17:39:07 -0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] ballot drive in AZ Message-ID: <20080217173907.16294.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:57:08 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Jan To: gpus-del at lists.cagreens.org Subject: [gpus-del] CA Greens!: This is it! PLEASE FORWARD (within your county) NOW!: Time-urgent! Please donate *NOW* for the critical Arizona Greens' ballot drive! Dear California Greens, Okay! This is it! We're getting down to the wire, and we really need to get the rest of the money to the Arizona Greens within just a few more days! We are close, but we really need to hustle because there simply isn't that much more time remaining! Thank you!, Greg Jan Oakland, CA 510-444-7336 [[ Subject line: Time-urgent! Please donate *NOW* for the critical Arizona Greens' ballot drive! ]] Calling all Greens! We urgently need your help NOW, for the critical Arizona Green Party ballot access drive! In just 5 days Greens across the country have raised over $4,200, and have also volunteered to work on raising a solid majority of the remaining $4,800 which is still needed. But that means that we're presently a couple of thousand dollars short -- and we need to reach our full $9,000 goal within just a few more days! So PLEASE DONATE TODAY, as we're definitely getting down to the wire! The Arizona Greens now have less than 3 weeks left in which to complete their signature drive, and they urgently need to hire some more petitioners, so it's critical for us to get them the rest of the needed funds NOW! (Note: If possible, please also let the sender of this e-mail know that you're making a donation, so each county can know how it's doing in raising money to help out Arizona!). If you can, please donate via credit card or PayPal, by going to: http://www.azgp.org/donate.shtml and clicking on the ?direct donation? link in the 2nd section of that page. But if you prefer to pay by check, please make your check payable to: Green Ballot Access PO Box 77312 Tucson AZ 85703 Sincerely, Greg Jan Oakland, CA Co-chair, California delegation to the Green Party of the U.S. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 19 16:29:56 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:29:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: 2008 Green Party Convention: Workshop Call-Out Message-ID: <002101c87357$b885bae0$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP> ----- Original Message ----- From: Green Party of the United States To: jimd at greens.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:06 PM Subject: 2008 Green Party Convention: Workshop Call-Out Back to GP.org 2008 Green Party Convention Workshop Call-Out Hello everyone! The Annual National Meeting Committee (ANMC) is working hard on the 2008 Green Party National Convention, to be held in Chicago from July 10 to July 13. One of the many items on our task list is developing a list of workshops that delegates and observers can attend and participate in. We want to ask for input from Greens around the country about which workshops you think are needed and what you would like to learn. The deadline to submit workshop ideas is February 29th, 2007. There are limited workshop/panel spots available, so please only send up to THREE choices to: workshop at gp.org Please put the words "Convention Workshops" in the subject header. Note: your email risks being missed if a different subject is listed or if it is not sent to workshop at gp.org Please include: 1. Workshop Topic 2. Short description of what you want to learn 3. Who you might think would be good to lead/participate in that workshop, and why* *if you don't have any ideas about who, but there is a topic you really want covered (FEC regulations for Treasurers in a presidential election year, for example) please still send in your submission and if we get enough requests, we can *try* to find appropriate speakers. Thank you for your input -- and PLEASE forward this email to other green lists, especially to potential delegates and attendees. Sincerely, Lynne Serpe on behalf of the Annual National Meeting Committee Email: office at gp.org Office: PO Box 57065 Washington, D.C. 20037 202-319-7191 or toll-free (US): 866-41GREEN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please visit the following link to register for the convention and to get the information about how to reserve your room at the 2008 headquarter hotel- the Palmer House Hilton. http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/index.shtml The first 25 people who register will receive a free convention t-shirt when they check in on site at the convention. Check www.gp.org early and often for a link to the local site with Chicago specific information, lodging and ride sharing boards and volunteer sign-up information. Check back soon. On behalf of the Annual National Meeting Committee we would like to welcome you to Chicago for the 2008 Green Party of the United States Presidential Nominating Convention and Annual Meeting. Live Green Vote Green! Sincerely, Ruth Weill and Matt Abel, ANMC Co-Chairs Email: office at gp.org Office: PO Box 57065 Washington, D.C. 20037 202-319-7191 or toll-free (US): 866-41GREEN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Thu Feb 21 20:03:01 2008 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:03:01 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Fwd: Lucius Walker in San Jose Saturday] Message-ID: <47BE4975.7090707@greens.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: Lucius Walker in San Jose Saturday Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:32:25 -0800 From: maureen smith To: Maureen Smith > MARK YOUR CALENDAR!!! FEBRUARY 23rd IMPORTANT EVENT IN SAN JOSE WITH > REV. LUCIUS WALKER OF IFCO/PASTORS FOR PEACE > > JOIN REV. LUCIUS WALKER TO CELEBRATE 40 YEARS OF IFCO (Umbrella > Organization for Pastors for Peace) AND TO HONOR THE LONG TIME ACTIVIST > HAL CARLSTAD > > Saturday February 23rd, from 9:00AM to 3:00PM > La Escuela Popular, 355 W. Fernando St, in downtown San Jose > > Learn more about obtaining a full scholarship to study medicine in Cuba > by coming to a conference on the 23rd of February. The scholarship > includes full tuition, housing, food, and a stipend throughout the > six-year program. All US citizens under the age of thirty with > university level proficiency in sciences who are willing to practice > medicine in under-served U.S. communities after graduation are > eligible. > > To learn more, contact autumnrosevogel at gmail.com or Carol Cross at > 650-367-9183. More information on the school can be found at Pastors > for Peace webpage www.ifconews.org > > ************************* > "We live in the richest country that has ever existed in the history > of our > planet. Our inability to fund education/healthcare/affordable housing > has > nothing to do with wealth and everything to do with a system that > serves the > interests of wealthy campaign contributors rather than the average > citizen." > Eddie Codel > -- from a letter to the editor, SF Chronicle, Monday, September 24th, > 2007 > SUPPORT PUBLIC FINANCING/ the CLEAN MONEY CAMPAIGN! From wrolley at charter.net Fri Feb 22 20:46:07 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:46:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Column - Global Warming] Message-ID: <47BFA50F.3070106@charter.net> I just sent this to the editor of the MH Times. I will run on Tuesday. The column by Burton Anderson that I mentioned was a typical "Global Warming is a Hoax" spin that had been slammed by several letters to the editor... some of which I saw before they were sent by others. Wes -------- Original Message -------- Neither a relatively cool summer nor a few very hot days in late August have anything to do with the proof or disproof of a general warming of our climate nor the reasons why this might be happening. However, for many it is too easy to confuse what is happening in terms of local weather as it changes from day to day with the changes that are going on in our climate on a global basis. There are a two basic questions that each of us need to answer. Quite simply, they are whether the current warming of this planet is caused by human activity, and then what should we do about it. Any question regarding the causes of the current warming pattern must become a matter of facts, not a matter of belief. If it were only a question of belief, then we have no way to make a rational decision, because you must believe that which you can not prove, an act more in line with astrology than with climatology. If you have a computer, or access to one with good video capability, I would suggest that you can visit the web site of Architecture 2030, an organization that is dedicated to understanding the science behind climate change and using that knowledge in how we design, construct or renovate buildings. The exact page is http://www.architecture2030.org/faceit/webcast.php You need to view the Face It webcast. Architecture 2030 founder, Ed Mazria (A.I.A) is much more eloquent that I and has a lot more facts at his finger tips. Actually, if you do that you can skip reading the rest of this. I warn you that this was targeted at students. It uses contemporary music to make it's point. However, buried in that Webcast are three important facts that Mazria is asking us to face. As far as I am concerned, the telling facts are in one chart that shows the correspondence between green house gases and temperature for the last 450 million years. The astounding thing is that the green house gas line suddenly goes off the chart in just the last period of industrial expansion. This is the most clear, obvious presentation of the basic relationship of the atmosphere and temperature that I have seen and the implications are undeniable. I know that there are professional global warming deniers, including even some like Oklahoma Senator James Inhofe, who take every opportunity to create dissension on this subject. Then, Senator Inhofe is from a state where oil drives politics. The second point that Mazria makes is that you must deal with energy use in the building sector of our economy. More energy is consumed in heating and lighting our buildings than any one other use, including transportation (40% vs ~26%). So, if we are going to have a profound effect on green house gases, it must be done by changing the way we design and construct buildings. The third fact that Mazria presents is that over two-thirds of all of the square footage in our buildings will either be new or have been renovated by 2035. That is an amazing statistic. We are going to do all of this work on our buildings, tearing down old ones, building new ones, renovating most of the remainder anyway. So, the cost of doing things the right way is negligible. Climate change deniers will say that doing anything now will be too costly, it will be too risky. It might give someone else (China) an economic advantage. I would say that dealing with the problem in the building sector is simple. It does not require new and expensive technology. All it requires it the will. Lets make two assumptions: one that Burton Anderson was correct with his past column and the other that the majority of climate scientists are correct. If he is correct and we invest in new technologies that will, in the long run, deliver cheaper energy with less negative environmental impacts, we are still ahead. However, if the climate scientists are correct but we do as the climate change deniers want, then the results for the human race could be catastrophic. That is a risk that I will not take. Nor would anyone else who worries about the world in which their grand children will live. We can take the first step in solving the problem right here in Morgan Hill. This is what we need to do. The City Council should adopt the policies set forth by Architecture 2030 as part of their permitting process, namely that, beginning in 2010, every new building and major renovation should use no more than 50% of the energy of similar building in this region. Then, every 5 years, we gear it down a little so that by 2030, all new construction is carbon neutral. If we are not willing to do that much, then we are not serious about solving the problem. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Feb 23 01:00:02 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:00:02 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Love, American Style" Message-ID: <47BFE092.8020204@earthlink.net> I really like this article: "Love, American Style" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/22/7220/ Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Sat Feb 23 10:00:02 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:00:02 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Love, American Style" In-Reply-To: <47BFE092.8020204@earthlink.net> References: <47BFE092.8020204@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47C05F22.4060503@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredd at freeshell.org Sat Feb 23 11:46:09 2008 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:46:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Love, American Style" Message-ID: <47C07801.4020807@freeshell.org> I really like this article: "Love, American Style" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/22/7220/ Gerry _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From fredd at freeshell.org Sat Feb 23 13:47:55 2008 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:47:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Love, American Style" Message-ID: <47C0948B.4010504@freeshell.org> I really like this article: "Love, American Style" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/22/7220/ Gerry _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From alexcathy at aol.com Sun Feb 24 09:05:06 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:05:06 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS -- NADER IS IN IT! Message-ID: <8CA451E89CE6D7B-117C-9A9F@webmail-nb19.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, On Meet the Press this morning, Ralph Nader declared his candidacy.? If he is the nominee of the Green Party, I intend to support him 100% Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? = ? Ralph Nader On Meet the Press (YouTube Video) ? Posted on America Online, February 24, 2008. ? Ralph Nader Enters Presidential Race ? WASHINGTON (Feb. 24) - Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run for president as a third-party candidate, criticizing the top White House contenders as too close to big business and pledging to repeat a bid that will "shift the power from the few to the many." ? Nader, 73, said most people are disenchanted with the Democratic and Republican parties due to a prolonged Iraq war and a shaky economy. The consumer advocate also blamed tax and other corporate-friendly policies under the Bush administration that he said have left many lower- and middle-class people in debt. "You take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut out, marginalized and disrespected," he said. "You go from Iraq, to Palestine to Israel, from Enron to Wall Street, from Katrina to the bumbling of the Bush administration, to the complicity of the Democrats in not stopping him on the war, stopping him on the tax cuts." "In that context, I have decided to run for president," Nader told NBC's "Meet the Press." ? Nader also criticized Republican candidate John McCain and Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton for failing to support full Medicare for all or cracking down on Pentagon waste and a "bloated military budget. He blamed that on corporate lobbyists and special interests, which he said dominate Washington, D.C., and pledged in his third-party campaign to accept donations only from individuals. "The issue is do they have the moral courage, do they have the fortitude to stand up to corporate powers and get things done for the American people," Nader said. "We have to shift the power from the few to the many." ? .? .? . ? YOUTUBE URL: ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7BXiYF7eHU ? AOL URL: ? http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/ralph-nader-enters-presidential-race/20080224092209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001 ? ? ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Sun Feb 24 15:46:48 2008 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:46:48 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS -- NADER IS IN IT! In-Reply-To: <8CA451E89CE6D7B-117C-9A9F@webmail-nb19.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA451E89CE6D7B-117C-9A9F@webmail-nb19.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <47C201E8.5070804@greens.org> The story I read said he will state later this week if he will run for a party (and which one) or as an independent. Jim alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > On Meet the Press this morning, Ralph Nader declared his candidacy.? > > > > > > If he is the nominee of the Green Party, I intend to support him 100% > > > > > Alex Walker > > > Los Angeles Greens > > > > > > > > =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? = > > > > > ? > > > > Ralph > Nader On Meet the Press (YouTube Video) > > > > ? > > > > Posted on America Online, February 24, 2008. > > > > ? > > > > Ralph > Nader Enters Presidential Race > > > > ? > > > > WASHINGTON (Feb. 24) - Ralph Nader said Sunday he will run > for president as a third-party candidate, criticizing the top White House > contenders as too close to big business and pledging to repeat a bid that will > "shift the power from the few to the many." > > > > ? > > > > Nader, 73, said most people are disenchanted with the > Democratic and Republican parties due to a prolonged Iraq war and a shaky > economy. The consumer advocate also blamed tax and other corporate-friendly > policies under the Bush administration that he said have left many lower- and > middle-class people in debt. > > > > "You take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut out, > marginalized and disrespected," he said. "You go from Iraq, to > Palestine to Israel, from Enron to Wall Street, from Katrina to the bumbling of > the Bush administration, to the complicity of the Democrats in not stopping him > on the war, stopping him on the tax cuts." > > > > "In that context, I have decided to run for president," Nader told > NBC's "Meet the Press." > > > > ? > > > > Nader also criticized Republican candidate John McCain and > Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton for failing to support full > Medicare for all or cracking down on Pentagon waste and a "bloated military > budget. He blamed that on corporate lobbyists and special interests, which he > said dominate Washington, D.C., and pledged in his third-party campaign to > accept donations only from individuals. > > > > "The issue is do they have the moral courage, do they have the fortitude > to stand up to corporate powers and get things done for the American > people," Nader said. "We have to shift the power from the few to the > many." > > > > ? > > > > .? .? . > > > > ? > > > > YOUTUBE URL: > > > > ? > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7BXiYF7eHU > > > > ? > > > > AOL URL: > > > > ? > > > > http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/ralph-nader-enters-presidential-race/20080224092209990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001 > > > > > ? > > > > ? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 24 21:58:41 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:58:41 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: [GPCA Official Notice] 2008 Green Party Convention: Live Green -Vote Green Message-ID: <001301c87773$795ecee0$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "County Contacts" To: "County Contacts" Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] 2008 Green Party Convention: Live Green -Vote Green > GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE > > This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, > or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. > Follow the contact directions > stated in the email. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > 2008 Green Party Convention > Live Green - Vote Green > > > July 10-13, 2008, Chicago, IL > > The National Nominating Convention is only 6 months away and plans are > underway for a great week of activities including: campaign school style > and other workshops, interesting speakers, a presidential candidate debate > and of course the nominating convention. > > The Annual National Meeting Committee is pleased to announce general > registration for the convention. Please visit the following link to > register for the convention and to get the information about how to > reserve > your room at the 2008 headquarter hotel- the Palmer House Hilton. > > http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/index.shtml > > The first 25 people who register will receive a free convention t-shirt > when > they check in on site at the convention. > > Check www.gp.org early and often for a link to the local site with Chicago > specific information, lodging and ride sharing boards and volunteer > sign-up > information. Check back soon. > > On behalf of the Annual National Meeting Committee we would like to > welcome > you to Chicago for the 2008 Green Party of the United States Presidential > Nominating Convention and Annual Meeting. Live Green Vote Green! > > Sincerely, > > Ruth Weill and Matt Abel, ANMC Co-Chairs > > > Email: office at gp.org > Office: PO Box 57065 Washington, D.C. 20037 202-319-7191 or toll-free > (US): > 866-41GREEN > > _______________________________________________ > Contacts2006 mailing list > Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From alexcathy at aol.com Tue Feb 26 07:51:17 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:51:17 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Los Angeles Times Editorial on Nader Message-ID: <8CA46A68E92E39B-918-6B7@webmail-ne17.sysops.aol.com> LOS ANGELES TIMES EDITORIAL: "...Does He Deserve to Be Heard? Yes" ? Hey, America, want to hear some secrets the mainstream media and political parties have been keeping from you? There's a war going on in Iraq; President Bush passed some tax cuts a while back that, combined with undisciplined spending, have contributed to a ballooning national debt; and apparently the price of oil has really started to degrade the nation's energy situation. These are some of the obscure issues that Ralph Nader, announcing his presidential candidacy on Sunday, promised to drag out of the shadows. It's an interesting demonstration of why he'll have a tough time mounting even a message-sending campaign this year, but also of why he's a welcome addition to the race. . . . ? Anti-Naderists will argue that he doesn't need to win to do damage; he merely needs to draw Democratic votes. If he should succeed in doing that, though, more power to him. Anybody who expects to become president of the United States had better be prepared to face tougher adversaries than Ralph Nader. This is about as close as we'll get to a nod from the MSM. 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He?s scheduled to be on CNN?s Anderson Cooper tonight at 10 p.m. We want to thank all of you for your encouragement and support. Now, we need you ? our loyal supporters ? to spread the word, volunteer, and donate as generously as you can. And if you haven?t already, take the Civics Test we posted yesterday on www.votenader.org. See how you do. Onward The Nader Team -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Tue Feb 26 09:54:28 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:54:28 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FYI - Nader Launch - What R U Feeling re This? In-Reply-To: <3ABF07B3-C5F1-4A69-B5E7-5C2A6E1EF6CC@cagreens.org> References: <3ABF07B3-C5F1-4A69-B5E7-5C2A6E1EF6CC@cagreens.org> Message-ID: <47C45254.2040107@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Tue Feb 26 16:58:35 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:58:35 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Great Letter re "alternatives" in Metro Letters by Dana!! Message-ID: Congrats, Dana! Wonderful letter without the usual rhetoric. You scored good points. Andrea From MARKETPOIN at aol.com Tue Feb 26 17:10:23 2008 From: MARKETPOIN at aol.com (MARKETPOIN at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:10:23 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Great Letter re "alternatives" in Metro Letters by Dana!! Message-ID: Dana also had a powerful letter in the Palo Alto Weekly recently about covering ALL the parties -- not just the Dems and Republicans. Judy In a message dated 2/26/2008 4:58:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, andid at cagreens.org writes: > Congrats, Dana! > Wonderful letter without the usual rhetoric. You scored good points. > Andrea > ************** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 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Many people agree that our present "winner-take-all" two-party system is not serving the needs of the American people. Some citizens have taken the trouble to form alternative parties. These folks recognize that the two mainstream parties are dominated by corporate interests. I believe that our country thrives on diversity and inclusiveness. We need to know about the entire spectrum of political ideas that are out there, and not huddle fearfully behind candidates who are "the lesser of two evils" just because we are brainwashed by the media barrage. Yeah, and what's wrong with voting for what you actually want? And knowing who's taking money from the military-industrial-congressional complex? I thank you for your past coverage of alternative candidates, and I hope I will read about my candidate in your paper. ? Dana St. George Palo Alto ? URL: http://www.metroactive.com/metro/02.20.08/letters-0808.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 26 23:04:22 2008 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:04:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Running for president vs. Training the next progressive generation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <636710.35225.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Nobody has been elected to the presidency past the age of 70. I'm not saying that it is not possible, but how many more times can Nader run for office? Once he goes off to hang out with the Founding Fathers, who is going to take up the fight against corporate America? Here we have Cynthia McKinney, who has potential to really help move the party forward after Ralph has moved on, but there doesn't seem to be much joint effort between the two of them. I really admire Ralph Nader, but we're looking at the next ten months when we should also be looking at the next ten years. Should we even be focusing on the presidential race? In 2006, we ran a candidate for governor in Illinois and he pulled more than the 10% threshold needed to retain ballot access. If we can do that for more states, we'd actually have a base we can depend on rather than essentially starting from scratch every four years in 20+ states. Do we have an updated list of which states we have ballot access and the other information that is currently listed at http://web.greens.org/statestatus/ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 27 21:34:55 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:34:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 10 months vs ten years Message-ID: <47C647FF.5050509@sbcglobal.net> Ed Chow has a very good point when he asks or points out with Nader we are thinking ten months instead of ten years. So what is the target date for achieving first of all the 5% of the vote in order to receive some federal funding? Which candidate gets us there first? Which candidate will increase the number of registered Greens? I remember an article on the Illinois Greens thzat was in the Green Pages in which their explanation of how it was done to achieve 10% of the vote included organize early, learn from past mistakes and perhaps a few other details ... ah yes, the organize early included having your precinct walkers or workers in place well before the election date. I received an email from the Nader team that indicates they could very well be working along those lines. From andid at cagreens.org Wed Feb 27 12:20:10 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:20:10 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Aerial spraying BEFORE Environ Impact Report?? Message-ID: Today KPFA aired a public forum about the proposed eradication of the light brown apple moth and the responses by the public to the planned aerial spraying in August; one area included will be the SF Bay Area. KPFA's program was startling in that the authorities present could not effectively answer questions from the audience, but merely took "concerns" that were to be included in the report which, BTW, has no definitive date for release other than "in the fall," AFTER the spraying has been accomplished. The program ran from 10 AM to at least 12 noon, today, Wednesday, February 27th. The plan is to aerial spray widely, and use material that will be encapsulated in plastic that will be small enough to be classified as PMs or particulate matter that can enter the lungs like other PMs that result in life-long and life-threatening breathing problems, etc. The spray will use pheromones, mixed with so-called "inert packaging." Inert as used here does not mean that these compounds aren't irritants, etc. Spraying in Santa Cruz last year resulted in 600 reports of illness. Berkeley and other cities are filing lawsuits to stop the spraying but the same actions did not stop the Santa Cruz operation. More info can be found on stopthespraying.org, as well as KPFA's website. Andrea From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Feb 28 10:10:11 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:10:11 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Michael Bloomberg is OUT Message-ID: <8CA484C4B2BBA45-27C-784B@webmail-ne13.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends In an Op-Ed article published in today?s New York Times, Mayor Michael Bloomberg declared that he is not a candidate for president.? Good!? Now Greens won?t have to worry about this billionaire trying to buy the election as a phony ?independent.?? Bloomber goes on and on about how he as ?a businessman, I never believed that either party had all the answers,? how ?the message of an independent approach has resonated strongly,? the need ?for a new urban agenda,? and how ?more of the same won?t do.?? However, he has no kind word to say about any actually independent individuals or organizations and his rap is nothing but a blend of Democratic and Republican Establishment clich?s. ? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? = Published by The New York Times, February 28, 2008. I'm Not Running for President, but ... by Michael R. Bloomberg WATCHING the 2008 presidential campaign, you sometimes get the feeling that the candidates ? smart, all of them ? must know better. They must know we can?t fix our economy and create jobs by isolating America from global trade. They must know that we can?t fix our immigration problems with border security alone. They must know that we can?t fix our schools without holding teachers, principals and parents accountable for results. They must know that fighting global warming is not a costless challenge. And they must know that we can?t keep illegal guns out of the hands of criminals unless we crack down on the black market for them. The vast majority of Americans know that all of this is true, but ? politics being what it is ? the candidates seem afraid to level with them. .? .? . These forces that prevent meaningful progress are powerful, and they exist in both parties. . . . ? URL: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/opinion/28mike.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin Michael R. Bloomberg is the mayor of New York. =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? = ? Who knows?? Bloomberg may even be sincere.? Nevertheless, his Establishment bias is written all over his little laundry list of issues: ?we can?t fix our economy and create jobs by isolating America from global trade?? ?(Translation: Let foreign sweat-shop operators do whatever they want).? ?we can?t fix our immigration problems with border security alone?? (Translation: Let foreign sweat-shop operators and US sweatshop operators do whatever they want).? ??we can?t fix our schools without holding teachers, principals and parents accountable?? (Translation: Let foreign sweat-shop operators, US sweatshop operators, and machine politicians running schools do whatever they want).? ??fighting global warming is not a costless challenge?? (Translation: Let foreign sweat-shop operators, US sweatshop operators, machine politicians running schools, and Big Oil do whatever they want).? ?we can?t keep illegal guns out of the hands of criminals unless we crack down on the black market?? (Translation: Let foreign sweat-shop operators, US sweatshop operators, machine politicians running schools, Big Oil, and the police-prosecutor-prison-industrial complex do whatever they want).? Bloomberg speaks about unnamed ?forces? preventing progress in both parties taking care not to say anything to offend any of them.? At best Bloomberg is a boring Obama with a lousy tan.? ? Read More On Green Commons at: http://www.greencommons.org/node/977 ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Feb 28 15:02:12 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:02:12 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cameron's Post on Handling the "Spoiler" Question In-Reply-To: <47C717F3.7070006@greens.org> References: <8CA4789B1ACDE62-E28-9E2@webmail-nd17.sysops.aol.com> <47C5E1AC.1000705@greens.org> <47C717F3.7070006@greens.org> Message-ID: <8CA487516152BDA-BAC-5B7@webmail-nc14.sysops.aol.com> Wow!? Cameron, that's brilliant.? you really should polish that a little bit and submit it for publication someplace where millions of people can read it.? I, myself, struggle constantly with my desire to call for "Jihad" against the Democratic Party Machine Bosses in Los Angeles.? I hate the Democrats.? I can't stop thinking about the things they've done to sell-out, betray, marginalize, and ridicule people I know who have worked 10, 20, 30, and even 40 years for peace, civil rights, women's rights, labor rights, and environmentalism.? Then, to add insult to injury, every time we turn around along comes another rich, well-connected charming "liberal" with a law degree from Harvard or Yale and so-called "progressives" swoon.? Having said all that, Cameron, I know in my head you are right.? We should be "Green and cuddly."? You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I think we should have a workshop on this at a plenary.? I am serious.? We should practice a little "role play" on what to say and how to act when somebody puts the "spoiler" argument.? We should also have a workshop on what to say and what not to say in a press release.? Thus, for example, I've been told if you want to get an op-ed in a newspaper you must never, ever, insult the editors in your op-ed.? Oh!? That is so hard for me.? I hate the MSM almost as much as the Democratic Party bosses!?? The "Op-Ed" page is supposed to be for? views that disagree with the newspaper's editorials.? But the subtle truth is, they only print "Op-Eds" that genuflect to the paper's wisdom in some way.? When the Los Angeles Times posted my blog it was because I *AGREED* with their editorial about the need for reform.? I just said the Democrats and the Republicans were incapable of doing it.? It's a very subtle thing.? You gotta be firm... but you gotta be nice (notice how they are all saying what a "nice guy" William F. Buckley was and never mind that the guy was an outright fascist.? Buckley was "witty" and "polite" with a degree from Yale).? Alex Walker -----Begin Original Message----- From: Cameron L. Spitzer To: gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:22 pm Subject: Re: [GPCA-CCWG] What is future of the GP, What Nader runing for? gpca-ccwg Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23 Bob Marsh wrote: Do not give any ground or sympathy to Demopublicans who are infected. ?Attack them (verbally only) whenever you hear this crap. ? Tell them you wish we had "spoiled" the election because then they might pay attention to our demands! Please don't.? Don't utter a single word which might be taken as admitting there is any such thing as "spoiling."? Ever. These days, when I meet one of these die-hard Dems, and they accuse the Greens or Nader of " spoiling," I pretend I have never heard the accusation before and ask them to explain it to me.? Then I interrupt them at each false assumption in their argument.? Nobody has ever been able to explain The Spoiler Effect to me without making at least one false assumption.? Of course they don't learn anything from the exchange, faith being impervious to mere facts and reason, but it gives them the message that I am not buying one bit of their crap, and they go away. If they want to talk politics with me, fine, but I'm not joining them in Toontown to do it. .? .? . -----End Original Message----- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrea PS, Nader is not running to win, but to speak truth to power, BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WILL. On Feb 26, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Edward wrote: > Nobody has been elected to the presidency past the age of 70. I'm > not saying that it is not possible, but how many more times can > Nader run for office? Once he goes off to hang out with the > Founding Fathers, who is going to take up the fight against > corporate America? > > Here we have Cynthia McKinney, who has potential to really help > move the party forward after Ralph has moved on, but there doesn't > seem to be much joint effort between the two of them. I really > admire Ralph Nader, but we're looking at the next ten months when > we should also be looking at the next ten years. > > Should we even be focusing on the presidential race? In 2006, we > ran a candidate for governor in Illinois and he pulled more than > the 10% threshold needed to retain ballot access. If we can do that > for more states, we'd actually have a base we can depend on rather > than essentially starting from scratch every four years in 20+ states. > > Do we have an updated list of which states we have ballot access > and the other information that is currently listed at http:// > web.greens.org/statestatus/ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Thu Feb 28 15:47:10 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:47:10 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 10 months vs ten years In-Reply-To: <47C647FF.5050509@sbcglobal.net> References: <47C647FF.5050509@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I read that, too. Why else would he ask a highly respected Green Party member to run as his Vice President? (A young male this time!) I also heard Cynthia Mc Kinney give credit to Nader for her decision to run for the top nomination in the Green Party. I'm proud of her and I'm proud of him. They are both out there, heads above the crowd, creating motion in the ranks. Just what we need in this old arthritic democracy of ours: a little motion! We live in interesting times. I hope we are up to it. Andrea On Feb 27, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Ed Chow has a very good point when he asks or points out > with Nader we are thinking ten months instead of ten years. > > So what is the target date for achieving first of all the 5% of the > vote > in order to receive some federal funding? > > Which candidate gets us there first? > Which candidate will increase the number of registered Greens? > > I remember an article on the Illinois Greens thzat was in the Green > Pages > in which their explanation of how it was done to achieve 10% of the > vote > included organize early, learn from past mistakes and perhaps a few > other details ... > ah yes, the organize early included having your precinct walkers or > workers in place > well before the election date. > > I received an email from the Nader team that indicates they could very > well be > working along those lines. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Thu Feb 28 16:04:36 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:04:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cameron's Post on Handling the "Spoiler" Question In-Reply-To: <8CA487516152BDA-BAC-5B7@webmail-nc14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA4789B1ACDE62-E28-9E2@webmail-nd17.sysops.aol.com> <47C5E1AC.1000705@greens.org> <47C717F3.7070006@greens.org> <8CA487516152BDA-BAC-5B7@webmail-nc14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6E6203B4-E74C-4A2A-821D-4ECC7F4DE0F7@cagreens.org> On Feb 28, 2008, at 3:02 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Wow! > > Cameron, that's brilliant. you really should polish that a little > bit and submit it for publication someplace where millions of > people can read it. I, too, have asked this genius to share this information factually so we can use it when we get hit over the head for EVER voting for Nader, as he were the devil incarnate. I always ask these bullies, who stand over me snarling, why they think they own my vote. I quit voting long before Nader stepped in. My very first vote was Republican (Nixon). So there. (I've come a long way, baby!) The closest to a scientific explanation I've ever seen was in the documentary, "An Unreasonable Man." And somewhere, earlier, I also heard that more Democrats voted for Bush than people voted for Nader (in the 2000 election?). > I, myself, struggle constantly with my desire to call for "Jihad" > against the Democratic Party Machine Bosses in Los Angeles. I hate > the Democrats. I can't stop thinking about the things they've done > to sell-out, betray, marginalize, and ridicule people I know who > have worked 10, 20, 30, and even 40 years for peace, civil rights, > women's rights, labor rights, and environmentalism. Then, to add > insult to injury, every time we turn around along comes another > rich, well-connected charming "liberal" with a law degree from > Harvard or Yale and so-called "progressives" swoon. > > Having said all that, Cameron, I know in my head you are right. > > We should be "Green and cuddly." You catch more flies with honey > than vinegar. > > I think we should have a workshop on this at a plenary. I am > serious. We should practice a little "role play" on what to say > and how to act when somebody puts the "spoiler" argument. We > should also have a workshop on what to say and what not to say in a > press release. I probably need to get a bit of training in diplomacy?my worst subject. Too Irish, I guess. > Thus, for example, I've been told if you want to get an op-ed in a > newspaper you must never, ever, insult the editors in your op-ed. > Oh! That is so hard for me. I hate the MSM almost as much as the > Democratic Party bosses! The "Op-Ed" page is supposed to be for > views that disagree with the newspaper's editorials. But the > subtle truth is, they only print "Op-Eds" that genuflect to the > paper's wisdom in some way. When the Los Angeles Times posted my > blog it was because I *AGREED* with their editorial about the need > for reform. I just said the Democrats and the Republicans were > incapable of doing it. > > It's a very subtle thing. You gotta be firm... but you gotta be > nice (notice how they are all saying what a "nice guy" William F. > Buckley was and never mind that the guy was an outright fascist. > Buckley was "witty" and "polite" with a degree from Yale). > > > Alex Walker > > > -----Begin Original Message----- > From: Cameron L. Spitzer > To: gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:22 pm > Subject: Re: [GPCA-CCWG] What is future of the GP, What Nader > runing for? gpca-ccwg Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23 > > Bob Marsh wrote: >> Do not give any ground or sympathy to Demopublicans who >> are infected. Attack them (verbally only) whenever you hear >> this crap. Tell them you wish we had "spoiled" the election >> because then they might pay attention to our demands! > Please don't. Don't utter a single word which might be taken > as admitting there is any such thing as "spoiling." Ever. > > These days, when I meet one of these die-hard Dems, > and they accuse the Greens or Nader of " spoiling," I pretend > I have never heard the accusation before and ask them to > explain it to me. Then I interrupt them at each false > assumption in their argument. Nobody has ever been able > to explain The Spoiler Effect to me without making at least > one false assumption. Of course they don't learn > anything from the exchange, faith being impervious to mere > facts and reason, but it gives them the message > that I am not buying one bit of their crap, and they go away. > If they want to talk politics with me, fine, but I'm not > joining them in Toontown to do it. > > . . . > > -----End Original Message----- > > > Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar for your browser. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredd at freeshell.org Fri Feb 29 14:46:12 2008 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:46:12 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cameron's Post on Handling the "Spoiler" Question In-Reply-To: <8CA487516152BDA-BAC-5B7@webmail-nc14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA4789B1ACDE62-E28-9E2@webmail-nd17.sysops.aol.com> <47C5E1AC.1000705@greens.org> <47C717F3.7070006@greens.org> <8CA487516152BDA-BAC-5B7@webmail-nc14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <47C88B34.6060306@freeshell.org> On Feb 29, 2008, at 1:24 pm, fredd at freeshell.org wrote: It is entertaining to read and hear most of the mainstream minds rant and rave over the audacity of the announcement of the Nader-Gonzales independent run for the presidency, during the $?Billion "thoroughbred horse race" now limited to three elite U.S. Senators backed by the corporate - military - governmental complex. It baffles the Green Party that will most likely nominate Cynthia McKinney, a convert from the Democratic Party that treated her as a pariah figure. Cynthia has been a real boost to the Green Party. Now, how should the Green Party adapt to the situation in which former Green Candidate Nader and a Green with great potential, Matt Gonzales, are teamed to compete for the Green and the other progressive voting blocks' support? What can Cynthia and the Greens do to share some of the dregs of attention that Nader and Gonzales will get after the "thoroughbreds" consume 99% of the coverage? A suggestion: When Cynthia is nominated, she should announce that she has chosen Ralph Nader as her V.P. running mate and will consider Matt Gonzales as one of her top Green consultants. Whether or not it would be technically possible, it would be a way to get attention, to disarm the dividers of the Green "spoilers," and to develop some unity through humor and the outrageousness of it all. It would be great fun to hold progressive forums where the Green Party Candidate for President and her independent "Running Mate" would face off on the issues. How else are the "politically marginal candidates of the progressive left" going to stir up some interest and get a peek from the arrogant "fourth estate," now better known as the corporate conglomerates' "real estate.?" "Nader for Vice President!" At risk, Fred D. On Feb 28, 2008, at 3:02 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Wow! > > Cameron, that's brilliant. you really should polish that a little > bit and submit it for publication someplace where millions of > people can read it. I, too, have asked this genius to share this information factually so we can use it when we get hit over the head for EVER voting for Nader, as he were the devil incarnate. I always ask these bullies, who stand over me snarling, why they think they own my vote. I quit voting long before Nader stepped in. My very first vote was Republican (Nixon). So there. (I've come a long way, baby!) The closest to a scientific explanation I've ever seen was in the documentary, "An Unreasonable Man." And somewhere, earlier, I also heard that more Democrats voted for Bush than people voted for Nader (in the 2000 election?). > I, myself, struggle constantly with my desire to call for "Jihad" > against the Democratic Party Machine Bosses in Los Angeles. I hate > the Democrats. I can't stop thinking about the things they've done > to sell-out, betray, marginalize, and ridicule people I know who > have worked 10, 20, 30, and even 40 years for peace, civil rights, > women's rights, labor rights, and environmentalism. Then, to add > insult to injury, every time we turn around along comes another > rich, well-connected charming "liberal" with a law degree from > Harvard or Yale and so-called "progressives" swoon. > > Having said all that, Cameron, I know in my head you are right. > > We should be "Green and cuddly." You catch more flies with honey > than vinegar. > > I think we should have a workshop on this at a plenary. I am > serious. We should practice a little "role play" on what to say > and how to act when somebody puts the "spoiler" argument. We > should also have a workshop on what to say and what not to say in a > press release. I probably need to get a bit of training in diplomacy?my worst subject. Too Irish, I guess. > Thus, for example, I've been told if you want to get an op-ed in a > newspaper you must never, ever, insult the editors in your op-ed. > Oh! That is so hard for me. I hate the MSM almost as much as the > Democratic Party bosses! The "Op-Ed" page is supposed to be for > views that disagree with the newspaper's editorials. But the > subtle truth is, they only print "Op-Eds" that genuflect to the > paper's wisdom in some way. When the Los Angeles Times posted my > blog it was because I *AGREED* with their editorial about the need > for reform. I just said the Democrats and the Republicans were > incapable of doing it. > > It's a very subtle thing. You gotta be firm... but you gotta be > nice (notice how they are all saying what a "nice guy" William F. > Buckley was and never mind that the guy was an outright fascist. > Buckley was "witty" and "polite" with a degree from Yale). > > > Alex Walker > > > -----Begin Original Message----- > From: Cameron L. Spitzer > To: gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org > Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:22 pm > Subject: Re: [GPCA-CCWG] What is future of the GP, What Nader > runing for? gpca-ccwg Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23 > > Bob Marsh wrote: >> Do not give any ground or sympathy to Demopublicans who >> are infected. Attack them (verbally only) whenever you hear >> this crap. Tell them you wish we had "spoiled" the election >> because then they might pay attention to our demands! > Please don't. Don't utter a single word which might be taken > as admitting there is any such thing as "spoiling." Ever. > > These days, when I meet one of these die-hard Dems, > and they accuse the Greens or Nader of " spoiling," I pretend > I have never heard the accusation before and ask them to > explain it to me. Then I interrupt them at each false > assumption in their argument. Nobody has ever been able > to explain The Spoiler Effect to me without making at least > one false assumption. Of course they don't learn > anything from the exchange, faith being impervious to mere > facts and reason, but it gives them the message > that I am not buying one bit of their crap, and they go away. > If they want to talk politics with me, fine, but I'm not > joining them in Toontown to do it. > > . . . > > -----End Original Message----- > > > Supercharge your AIM. 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That way Nader is free to do his own thing, which is evidently determined to do, at the same time the Greens pick up a little bit of celebrity while McKinney and the rest of us are building a party.? Alex Walker P.S.:? On the one hand probably enrage the Nader-haters inside the Green Party.? On the other hand, Nader did win the California Primary, and so the California will have to do something to represent rank and file opinion.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Fri Feb 29 16:31:05 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:31:05 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My Assemblywoman, Karen Bass in L.A. Elected Speaker Message-ID: <8CA494AAB6325D1-7E0-60B9@webmail-nb02.sysops.aol.com> The Lord moves in mysterious ways.? I guess it's just as well that, for financial and personal reasons, I cannot run for public office right now.? My dream had been to a start a "Green Revolutoin" in inner-city Los Angeles by running a vigorous campaign as a Green for a partisan office like state assembly.? I imagined Barack Obama being kicked to the curb by the Democratic Establishment and I'd run out to all the disappointed and dissilusioned folks in my neighborhood and say: "See!? Democrats Ain't Shit!? Vote for Me!? Vote Green!? Support the Cynthia McKinney Team Send 'em a Message!" ? Well, on top of everything else that hasn't gone according to plan, my representative to the state assembly, Karen Bass, has been elected the first Black woman to lead a state legislative body in the United States.? First, Barack Obama caught fire.? Now, Karen is replacing Nunez.? Damn!? Let's get real.? No Green brotha is going to be able to stand against this.? Not this year.? My Green Dreams are going to have to be put on hold a little longer.? 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Likely agneda items will include presentation and approval of the budget for the next fiscal year; election of at-large Coordinating Committee members; election of delegates to the California GPUS Delegation; Standing Committee and Working Group meetings. Warner **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Feb 29 19:29:52 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:29:52 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Dems Should Thank Nader, Not Trash Him" Message-ID: <47C8CDB0.7040704@earthlink.net> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/29/7382/ Gerry