[Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Stauffer's high handedly unsubscribingme from regional list

[Brian Good]

I understand the need for rules to limit excessive off-topic posting.  9/11 
rants belong in an impeachment forum only when they specifically address 
impeachable offenses; most impeachment news doesn't belong in a 9/11 
forum.  Probably I have crossed the line in this forum a couple of times.  
Certainly last summer Drew's email volume exceeded my ability to keep 
up and his high-value posts went unread along with the lower-value ones.  
I appreciate Drew's insights and his monitoring of a wide range of issues.  

A certain elasticity in the rules is justified.  On a formal level, a specific 
number of off-topic posts per week might be permitted, with any over 
the limit requiring sponsorship of a county council member.  Informally,
someone might have confederates submit a share of her off-topic posts, 
or limits might be invoked only in cases involving complaints.  Why would 
anyone complain?  If you don't want to read it, don't!  Why should your 
desire to keep your inbox free of unwanted emails prevent others from 
benefiting from them?

Brian






> To: fredd at freeshell.org; sosfbay-discuss-bounces at cagreens.org; JamBoi at Greens.org
> From: kaisha_marie at comcast.net
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:10:27 +0000
> CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Stauffer's high handedly	unsubscribingme	from regional list
> 
> I appreciate Drew's posts and he is the reason I'm green at all. I don't understand why his speech would be limited in any green forum. What are the rules being violated specifically?  
> 
> Green is unification,
> Kaisha
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org>
> 
> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:47:00 
> To: Drew Johnson<JamBoi at Greens.org>
> Cc: <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Stauffer's high handedly unsubscribing
>  me	from regional list
> 
> 
> I appreciate Drew's alerts, leads and his comments.  I'm sure he informs 
> and energizes many Greens who rely on the discussion list.
> 
> I see no harm.
> 
> Fred Duperrault
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I agree with Drew. In these trying times pretty much everyone, who's
> serious about this planet and it turning GREEN someday, has something
> to say that is important. That is, information about impeachment,
> ending war, healthcare for all, mass transit, bicycling, etc., etc.,
> is all good and points towards a GREENer planet. Thus, Drew's emails
> should be looked upon as a GOOD thing that will help the GREEN party.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Randy W. Sandberg
> www.ENDinjusticeNOW.com
> 
> 
> On Jul 13, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> 
> > I vehemently protest this unilateral action by Jim Stauffer.  Jim is  
> > not
> > the king of the e-mail list and does not have the right to partake  
> > in such
> > high handed behavior.  This is not a "green" way to operate.  I  
> > request
> > the County Council instruct Jim to immediately reinstate my  
> > subscription
> > to the regional list and make it clear to Jim that this behavior is
> > completely unacceptable.
> >
> >
> > Green is Ethical!
> >
> > Drew Johnson
> >
> > County Council Emeritus and
> > Elected Delegate the Green National Committee (among many other  
> > forms of
> > service I provide)
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------- Original Message  
> > ----------------------------
> > Subject: [SC-SM] Unsubscribing Drew
> > From:    "Jim Stauffer" <jims at greens.org>
> > Date:    Fri, July 11, 2008 18:12
> > To:      "Regional List" <sc-sm at lists.sonic.net>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I'm unsubscribing Drew Johnson from this list. He's been asked  
> > several times
> > to stop posting general discussion issues, and he refuses to do so.  
> > This
> > list is defined for a discussion of regional Green Party issues. The  
> > GPCA
> > has a list-use policy and his actions violate it.
> >
> > Drew is no longer on the SC County Council, so his only purpose for
> > remaining on this list is to use it to distribute his favorite  
> > discussion
> > topics.
> >
> > If any of you San Mateo folks want get his posts, you can add him to  
> > your
> > discussion list.
> >
> >
> > Jim
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