[Sosfbay-discuss] To Drew and his Friends

[Jim Stauffer]

Drew, you seriously need to see a therapist. You're embarrassing yourself 
with these lies, as you have so often embarrassed the Green Party. Get some 
help!

To those of you who appear to believe any lie that Drew spits out, why don't 
you find something meaningful to do with your lives instead of attacking 
people on email lists.

I'm not interested in hearing anything more from any of you. I'm 
unsubscribing from this list.

Jim




Drew Johnson wrote:
> No No Jim. You got that entirely backwards.  Caroline deserves THE RESPECT
> as a Couunty Council member which you just deprived her of. Though you
> also have not been on the Council for many years, we TRY to give you
> respect DESPITE your OUTRAGEOUS OUTBURSTS OF ANGER WHICH HAVE DRIVEN MANY
> ACTIVISTS AWAY FROM OUR PARTY.  While you are currently serving as our
> Regional Rep to the Coordinating Committee none of this gives you
> justification to operate as a tin plated dictator in this way.
> 
> Since YOU are the one taking the completely ungreen, rageaholic, tyranous,
> abusive censorious, exclusionary, arbitrary, unilateral, high handed and
> unreasonable action YOU ARE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE why
> you think that you have the right to knock a County Council emeritus
> member off the list for posting about news of vital interest to Green in
> the region.
> 
> IMO, instead of subjecting us all to these periodically terrorizing angry
> outbursts that Jim indulges himself in and sprays everyone around himself
> in, Jim Stauffer needs to get himself to anger management classes ASAP and
> take a timeout from party work to get his head straightened out about
> treating others with respect and dignity.  Its a matter of taking personal
> responsibility for his own behavior.  How many people have been driven
> away from this party over the years by Jim personally would be difficult
> to guess.  While he provides much knowledge from having been at key
> positions over the years Jim's extremely ungreen behavior entirely
> detracts from the value he'd otherwise be able to provide.  Let him get
> himself together so that he can operate as a real Green rather than a
> madman and THEN he will be well enough to fully contribute.
> 
> Jim's archnemesis, Mike Feinstein recently took himself mostly out of the
> state party mix.  Jim would do very well to do the same.  It would do him,
> the GPCA AND the GPSC a WORLD OF GOOD.  We should not be subjected to the
> factional fanaticism that the factional alphas like Jo Chamberlain, Peter
> Camejo, on the one side of the factional divide or Mike Feinstein on the
> other OR their their loyal foot soldiers like Jim Stauffer (of the Jo
> Chamberlain/ Peter Camejo faction) that keep that fire alive.
> 
> EVERYONE GET THIS:  The post that Jim knocked me off after was the one
> about McKinney's choice for VP running mate, Rosa Clemente!!!!  The post I
> was about to put on was an official GP-US release describing our new
> nominee, Cynthia McKinney and her running mate.  I was AT THE CONVENTION,
> TRYING TO PROVIDE CURRENT NEWS TO OUR REGION!!!  HELLO!!! Jim's behavior
> is just out of control IMO.
> 
> I'm sorry, but Jim's is the one completely confused about what constitutes
> items of interest and concern to Greens across the region.
> 
> EVERYONE GET THIS: The volume on the list in question is a trickle!!!  Its
> hardly used at all!!!  This is a completely in Stauffer's head-only
> artificial situation due to Jim's amazingly cramped interpretation of what
> is of interest to Green in the regional
> 
> I'm thinking that Jim may have altered the list's purpose statement
> recently because i seem to recall it was longer, broader and more
> inclusive previously. But whether or not this is the case, here's what it
> says today:
> 
> http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/listinfo/sc-sm
> 
> "This list is to facilitate communications between SC and SM counties on
> regional issues."
> 
> Notice this says NOTHING about it being County Council ONLY business or
> that ONLY County Council members can post.  Notice it gives no
> restrictions (nor should it) as to how.  Notice it does not say that Jim
> Stauffer is the definer of ANYTHING, or that he has the authority to
> suddenly, arbitrarily and with prejuce boot County Councilor emeritus
> members off the list (it doesn't even assert that he has ANYTHING TO DO
> WITH THE LIST WHATSOVER).
> 
> Jim seems to want to treat the SC-SM list as if it were the Red Phone,
> connecting the White House to the Kremlin, only to be used in the direst
> of emergencies.  Or as a fire that you have to break the glass in order to
> use.  The SC-SM list is treated as if it were so precious it just can
> never be used.  Rubbish!!!  Our party resources NEED to be exercised in
> order to actually make a difference.  Duh!
> 
> Here's what I say:
> 
> When our region needs to mobilize to run our races as we do with our
> presidential race, ITS REGIONAL BUSINESS.  When we need to talk about how
> we run Carol Brouillet's race (in the 14th district which spans both San
> Mateo and Santa Clara county) its regional business.  Heck Barry
> Hermanson's and Peter Myer's run to some smaller extent is regional
> business.
> 
> When we need to organize civil rights actions (including impeachment) we
> need to communicate it across the whole region.
> 
> When we have events we want both county member's to participate in, such
> as Tian's parties, its regional business.  Several SM members joined us at
> the last, fun and wonderful election night party at Tian's.  Note that Jim
> was not a participant.
> 
> This SM-SC list is for COMMUNICATION, not to hamper, construct, censor
> communication.  I received a number of private e-mails previously re: the
> posts I'd put up on the SC-SM list by people who felt intimidated by the
> wrathful Jim Stauffer and so didn't want to expose themselves to his
> abusive wrath.  IF PEOPLE DO NOT WISH TO READ A POSTING THEY MAY SIMPLY
> IGNORE IT OR HIT THE DELETE BUTTON.  THEY DO NOT NEED TO TRY TO DICTATE TO
> OTHERS HOW TO COMMUNICATE.
> 
> 
> Green is Connection!
> 
> Drew Johnson
> County Council Emeritus and Delegate to the Green National Committee
> (among many, many other contributions)
> 
> 
> On Mon, July 14, 2008 19:40, Jim Stauffer wrote:
>> Caroline -
>>
>> Since you are County Councilor you need to explain your accusation of
>> "esclusion and censorship."
>>
>> Specifically, how is it censorship when anyone who wants to read Drew's
>> post
>> can do so on this list? No one on the other list asked him to copy his
>> messages there and no one has complained about his removal.
>>
>> If you want to make a claim of exclusion, then you'll have to make that
>> claim against most of the lists in the state party. Most lists are
>> "closed"
>> lists for committees or some other specialized purpose. The membership is
>> controlled by the list members themselves, and general discussion topics
>> are
>> not allowed. Such is the list from which Drew was removed.
>>
>> As a person who now holds a position of responsibility in this
>> organization, please explain how this is exclusion and censorship. Those
> are strong accusations.
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>> I thought the Green Party was about inclusion and operating on the best
>>> information available, not esclusion and censorship. Anyone who doesn't
>>> want to read Drew's e-mails has only to delete them. Green is choice.
>>> Caroline
> 
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