From tnharter at aceweb.com  Sun Jun  1 00:28:57 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:28:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's
 VoterRegistration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <1670.38.99.84.36.1212256098.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <1670.38.99.84.36.1212256098.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <48424FB9.2090201@aceweb.com>

Considering that "other" is a conglomeration of smaller parties like the 
Rock and Roll Party, the Party Party, and who knows what, I would call 
them the fourth tier. That way the list looks like this:

> 
> Taken from the CA SoS's document
> "Voter Participation Statistics by County and Party"
> http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_primary/05_voter_stats_by_party_feb08.pdf
> 
> Report of Registration as of May 19, 2008
> Registration By County
> 
> County              Eligible        Registered
> 
> Santa Clara        1,107,353           715,492
>                                          64.61%
> 
> FIRST TIER -- MORE THAN 100,000 VOTERS:
> 
>                                  Decline to
> Democratic      Republican            State
> 
>    329,559         183,227        178,188
>      46.06%          25.61%         24.90%
> 
> SECOND TIER -- MORE THAN 10,000 VOTERS:
>  American
> Independent
> 
>    12,644
>      1.77%
> 
> THIRD TIER -- FEWER THAN 10,00 VOTERS:
>                                        Peace and
>    Green       Libertarian              Freedom
>    4,611             3,714             1,679
>     0.64%             0.52%            0.23%
> 

FOURTH TIER -- FEWER THAN 1.000 VOTERS PER PARTY:
Other
1,870
0.26%

FIFTH TIER --- NOT REGISTERED TO VOTE AT ALL

too many
(not counted in the percentages above.)
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
I participated in San Francisco's Critical Mass ride last evening.


From wrolley at charter.net  Sun Jun  1 08:33:03 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 08:33:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Smart Car
Message-ID: <4842C12F.4010304@charter.net>

I saw my first Smart Car on the road yesterday.  It was on local Morgan 
Hill streets and then took off down 101 from Dunne Ave heading for 
Gilroy at 70 mph.


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



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From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:57:48 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] I vote Dave Cortese for County Supervisor
	(3rd District)
Message-ID: <cf8.33fcced5.35744b2c@aol.com>

I voted for David Cortese during the  first round of the City of San Jose 
mayoral elections because, of all the  candidates, his positions were closest to 
the answers I wanted to hear from the  candidates.  Among the things that 
impressed me was his participation on  both the VTA and the regional governments 
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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Sun Jun  1 15:30:06 2008
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 1 Jun 2008 22:30:06 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
	Registration Report of 5/19/08
Message-ID: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


>Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:18:30 -0700
>From: "E. Alan Meece" <eameece at california.com>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I)
>To: Drew Johnson <JamBoi at Greens.org>
>Cc: sc-sm at lists.sonic.net, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter	
>	Registration Report of 5/19/08

>Some things to keep in mind, though you probably know;

>The only reason AIP has the numebrs they do is that people register with
>them thinking they are registering "Independent."


I don't think that's as true as it used to be.
The last three times I've asked the registrant if he knew what
party he'd just joined, he said yes and told me something
about the AIP.  Maybe it's a fluke.

cls


>>   Green: 4,611 people or 0.64% of all Registered Voters in Santa Clara Co.
>> 
>> Across the state the Green Party of CA is at 0.75% of total registration,
>> so we are running lower than that figure at 0.64% in our county.
>> There are basically two groups to grow our registration numbers from.
>> 
>> 1) Recruit from EbARs
>> (391,861 people or a whopping 35.39% of all eligible),
>> 
>> OR
>> 



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon Jun  2 00:46:37 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 00:46:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
 Registration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <1130.38.99.84.36.1212392797.squirrel@www.greens.org>

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.  I don't think that the ONLY
reason AIP is so big is that people are confused about it and mean to sign
up as independents -- but some obviously do make that mistake.  Let's not
discount the number of hard core conservatives in our midst.  I think as
Cameron's experience shows there are a goodly number of AIP registrants
who really ARE that conservative.  They're probably Rush Limbaugh/Fox
Noise consumers. :-)  We're probably not likely to wrest many away from
THAT party (unless of course as Eric said they're the ones who are trying
to say they are independent).

One thing I think we should frame our presentation with is that Greens are
independents!  We are independent of the Duopoly.  Independent of the
Corporatocracy, the power elites, the Imperialists, the NeoCons, the
Dominionists, the status quo, the Domination Paradigm!!!  We are about
'Power With' not 'Power Over'.  When people grasp the truth of this they
just might come our way.  Many of those large, large numbers of 'Decline
to State' and Eligible but Aren't Registered (my EbAR category) could very
well
become Green when they realize that...


Green is Independent!

Drew



On Sun, June 1, 2008 15:30, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
>
>>Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:18:30 -0700
>>From: "E. Alan Meece" <eameece at california.com>
>>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I)
>>To: Drew Johnson <JamBoi at Greens.org>
>>Cc: sc-sm at lists.sonic.net, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
>>	Registration Report of 5/19/08
>
>>Some things to keep in mind, though you probably know;
>
>>The only reason AIP has the numebrs they do is that people register with
>>them thinking they are registering "Independent."
>
>
> I don't think that's as true as it used to be.
> The last three times I've asked the registrant if he knew what
> party he'd just joined, he said yes and told me something
> about the AIP.  Maybe it's a fluke.
>
> cls
>
>
>>>   Green: 4,611 people or 0.64% of all Registered Voters in Santa Clara
>>> Co.
>>>
>>> Across the state the Green Party of CA is at 0.75% of total
>>> registration,
>>> so we are running lower than that figure at 0.64% in our county.
>>> There are basically two groups to grow our registration numbers from.
>>>
>>> 1) Recruit from EbARs
>>> (391,861 people or a whopping 35.39% of all eligible),
>>>
>>> OR
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Jun  2 08:13:07 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:13:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's
 Voter	Registration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <48440E03.50202@charter.net>

cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
>
> I don't think that's as true as it used to be.
> The last three times I've asked the registrant if he knew what
> party he'd just joined, he said yes and told me something
> about the AIP.  Maybe it's a fluke.
>   
While I had a neighbor who made the mistake Tian mentions, I would agree 
with Cameron.  Something is going on  besides an identity crisis.  
Consider...

As the Republican Party continues to unravel with charges of corruption 
and corporate connivance, I would expect to see serious conservatives 
move to one of two alternative parties, AIP / Constitution or 
Libertarian.  The choice would be made on the basis of what they 
consider to be the most important issues.  Those who think that 
economics are the most important will tend to become Libertarians, as 
the AIP does not focus on economic issues but rather scapegoats the 
economic problems (immigrants).

An interesting contrast is that between Greens and Libertarians, where 
both ran party insiders without national name recognition in 2004.  This 
year, it appears that they will both run party switching ex members of 
Congress from Georgia.    It appears that McKinney  has locked up the 
Green Party nomination and Bob Barr has the Libertarian already. 
http://www.ajc.com/extra/content/news/stories/2008/05/25/libertarians_0526.html

 From Ballot Access 
News...http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/05/20/rasmussen-general-election-presidential-poll-2/
>
> Rasmussen Reports issued these poll results 
> <http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/will_third_party_candidates_tip_the_presidential_race> 
> on May 18. One of the questions listed 4 candidates: Obama 42%, McCain 
> 38%, Barr 6%, Nader 4%, undecided 11%.


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From fredd at freeshell.org  Mon Jun  2 09:26:34 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:26:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
 Registration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <48441F3A.3070705@freeshell.org>

Very good points, Drew!

Additionally, the Green Party has to figure out how to raise money.
In the capitalist system, public relations through advertising is a 
prerequisite to growth. Notice how the political election system is so 
influenced by the Madison Avenue principles.

A major reason why the Democratic Party has followed the Republican 
Party toward the right (Direction, that is.), is its adoption of the 
absolute capitalist way of thinking. Because the public has failed in 
controlling the corporate monopoly of the political system, we have a 
one party - Repubdecratic - monoploly. To survive, the Democrats have 
adopted the too popular adage, "If you can't beat 'em (the oligar- 
chists), join' em!"

The Green Party certainly won't join 'em, but it's got to figure out how 
to raise more money the ethical way.  There is a lot of competition out 
there for the funding of nonprofit organizations.  Some of the big 
financially successful nonprofit NGOs, like Greenpeace, Southern Poverty 
Law Center, Habitat For Humanity, the Sierra Club and Doctors Without 
Borders, do dramatic things that appeal to the humane emotions of
generous donors.  It seems that dramatic good deed actions beget
dramatic contributions.

If the Green Party could put some of its "Values" into some tangible 
good deed enterprise like, maybe, "Food For the Outcast", or "Mother 
Green Earth" workshops, Green political contributions could dramatically 
  increase.  Of course, the "enterprise" would have to be a separate 501 
(c) (3) entity - founded and operated by Green Party volunteers.

A "Green Party Volunteers" entity, independent of the Party, might be a 
way to achieve some tangible Green Party Value goals that could do
a lot for the public image of the Green Party.

At least, it would be doing some earthly tangible good.

Thinking aloud on the E-mail,

Fred

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.  I don't think that the ONLY
reason AIP is so big is that people are confused about it and mean to sign
up as independents -- but some obviously do make that mistake.  Let's not
discount the number of hard core conservatives in our midst.  I think as
Cameron's experience shows there are a goodly number of AIP registrants
who really ARE that conservative.  They're probably Rush Limbaugh/Fox
Noise consumers. :-)  We're probably not likely to wrest many away from
THAT party (unless of course as Eric said they're the ones who are trying
to say they are independent).

One thing I think we should frame our presentation with is that Greens are
independents!  We are independent of the Duopoly.  Independent of the
Corporatocracy, the power elites, the Imperialists, the NeoCons, the
Dominionists, the status quo, the Domination Paradigm!!!  We are about
'Power With' not 'Power Over'.  When people grasp the truth of this they
just might come our way.  Many of those large, large numbers of 'Decline
to State' and Eligible but Aren't Registered (my EbAR category) could very
well
become Green when they realize that...


Green is Independent!

Drew



On Sun, June 1, 2008 15:30, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
>
>>Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:18:30 -0700
>>From: "E. Alan Meece" <eameece at california.com>
>>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I)
>>To: Drew Johnson <JamBoi at Greens.org>
>>Cc: sc-sm at lists.sonic.net, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
>>	Registration Report of 5/19/08
>
>>Some things to keep in mind, though you probably know;
>
>>The only reason AIP has the numebrs they do is that people register with
>>them thinking they are registering "Independent."
>
>
> I don't think that's as true as it used to be.
> The last three times I've asked the registrant if he knew what
> party he'd just joined, he said yes and told me something
> about the AIP.  Maybe it's a fluke.
>
> cls
>
>
>>>   Green: 4,611 people or 0.64% of all Registered Voters in Santa Clara
>>> Co.
>>>
>>> Across the state the Green Party of CA is at 0.75% of total
>>> registration,
>>> so we are running lower than that figure at 0.64% in our county.
>>> There are basically two groups to grow our registration numbers from.
>>>
>>> 1) Recruit from EbARs
>>> (391,861 people or a whopping 35.39% of all eligible),
>>>
>>> OR
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


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From fredd at freeshell.org  Mon Jun  2 09:31:27 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:31:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
 Registration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <4844205F.8030407@freeshell.org>

Very good points, Drew!

Additionally, the Green Party has to figure out how to raise money.
In the capitalist system, public relations through advertising is a
prerequisite to growth. Notice how the political election system is so
influenced by the Madison Avenue principles.

A major reason why the Democratic Party has followed the Republican
Party toward the right (Direction, that is.), is its adoption of the
absolute capitalist way of thinking. Because the public has failed in
controlling the corporate monopoly of the political system, we have a
one party - Repubdecratic - monoploly. To survive, the Democrats have
adopted the too popular adage, "If you can't beat 'em (the oligar-
chists), join' em!"

The Green Party certainly won't join 'em, but it's got to figure out how
to raise more money the ethical way.  There is a lot of competition out
there for the funding of nonprofit organizations.  Some of the big
financially successful nonprofit NGOs, like Greenpeace, Southern Poverty
Law Center, Habitat For Humanity, the Sierra Club and Doctors Without
Borders, do dramatic things that appeal to the humane emotions of
generous donors.  It seems that dramatic good deed actions beget
dramatic contributions.

If the Green Party could put some of its "Values" into some tangible
good deed enterprise like, maybe, "Food For the Outcast", or "Mother
Green Earth" workshops, Green political contributions could dramatically
   increase.  Of course, the "enterprise" would have to be a separate 501
(c) (3) entity - founded and operated by Green Party volunteers.

A "Green Party Volunteers" entity, independent of the Party, might be a
way to achieve some tangible Green Party Value goals that could do
a lot for the public image of the Green Party.

At least, it would be doing some earthly tangible good.

Thinking aloud on the E-mail,

Fred


I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.  I don't think that the ONLY
reason AIP is so big is that people are confused about it and mean to sign
up as independents -- but some obviously do make that mistake.  Let's not
discount the number of hard core conservatives in our midst.  I think as
Cameron's experience shows there are a goodly number of AIP registrants
who really ARE that conservative.  They're probably Rush Limbaugh/Fox
Noise consumers. :-)  We're probably not likely to wrest many away from
THAT party (unless of course as Eric said they're the ones who are trying
to say they are independent).

One thing I think we should frame our presentation with is that Greens are
independents!  We are independent of the Duopoly.  Independent of the
Corporatocracy, the power elites, the Imperialists, the NeoCons, the
Dominionists, the status quo, the Domination Paradigm!!!  We are about
'Power With' not 'Power Over'.  When people grasp the truth of this they
just might come our way.  Many of those large, large numbers of 'Decline
to State' and Eligible but Aren't Registered (my EbAR category) could very
well
become Green when they realize that...


Green is Independent!

Drew



On Sun, June 1, 2008 15:30, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
>
>>Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:18:30 -0700
>>From: "E. Alan Meece" <eameece at california.com>
>>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I)
>>To: Drew Johnson <JamBoi at Greens.org>
>>Cc: sc-sm at lists.sonic.net, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
>>	Registration Report of 5/19/08
>
>>Some things to keep in mind, though you probably know;
>
>>The only reason AIP has the numebrs they do is that people register with
>>them thinking they are registering "Independent."
>
>
> I don't think that's as true as it used to be.
> The last three times I've asked the registrant if he knew what
> party he'd just joined, he said yes and told me something
> about the AIP.  Maybe it's a fluke.
>
> cls
>
>
>>>   Green: 4,611 people or 0.64% of all Registered Voters in Santa Clara
>>> Co.
>>>
>>> Across the state the Green Party of CA is at 0.75% of total
>>> registration,
>>> so we are running lower than that figure at 0.64% in our county.
>>> There are basically two groups to grow our registration numbers from.
>>>
>>> 1) Recruit from EbARs
>>> (391,861 people or a whopping 35.39% of all eligible),
>>>
>>> OR
>>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


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From patgray.green at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun  2 10:45:19 2008
From: patgray.green at sbcglobal.net (Pat Gray)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:45:19 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SC-SM] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's
	Voter Registration Report of 5/19/08
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
	<48441F3A.3070705@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <004201c8c4d8$6ed85330$4201a8c0@Pats2>

Yes, money runs our political system as it is.  We don't need to change this 
by just getting more money by good fund raising to join the corruption.  We 
Greens need to get alive and support public finance of political campaigns. 



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon Jun  2 12:13:24 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:13:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Clean Money (was: We're #5: Anaylzing Santa
 Clara's Voter Registration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <004201c8c4d8$6ed85330$4201a8c0@Pats2>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
	<48441F3A.3070705@freeshell.org>
	<004201c8c4d8$6ed85330$4201a8c0@Pats2>
Message-ID: <2480.38.99.84.36.1212434004.squirrel@www.greens.org>

On Mon, June 2, 2008 10:45, Pat Gray wrote:
> Yes, money runs our political system as it is.  We don't need to change
> this
> by just getting more money by good fund raising to join the corruption.
> We
> Greens need to get alive and support public finance of political
> campaigns.

I agree Pat that we NEED public financing of campaigns.  However what are
your thoughts on the current versions of Clean Money in CA where minor
parties are discriminated against and required to fill more onerous
requirements in order to qualify?  Doesn't that just perpetuate The
Duopoly and continue to put us on an uneven playing field?  Should we see
it as 'half a loaf is better than none' and work to first pass it first
and then amend it, or should we oppose it?

BTW, here's the text of 583, the latest whack at this in the assembly:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/bill/asm/ab_0551-0600/ab_583_bill_20070604_amended_asm_v98.pdf


Green is Connection!

Drew



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Jun  2 12:20:36 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:20:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa
 Clara'sVoter	Registration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <48440E03.50202@charter.net>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
	<48440E03.50202@charter.net>
Message-ID: <48444804.9030901@aceweb.com>



Wes Rolley wrote:
> 
> An interesting contrast is that between Greens and Libertarians, where 
> both ran party insiders without national name recognition in 2004.  This 
> year, it appears that they will both run party switching ex members of 
> Congress from Georgia.    It appears that McKinney  has locked up the 
> Green Party nomination and Bob Barr has the Libertarian already. 
> http://www.ajc.com/extra/content/news/stories/2008/05/25/libertarians_0526.html
> 

Around December I remember looking at the list of Candidates, and we
had two Black women from Georgia on the list. I'm feeling like either
the Republicrats or third partys crossed a of threshold in the Georgia
mindset. I wonder what it was...
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
I participated in San Francisco's Critical Mass ride Friday evening.


From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Mon Jun  2 12:24:23 2008
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:24:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Smart Car
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23981.1212346673.24070.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <031a01c8c4e6$4e7b8860$6401a8c0@INTERBIKE06>

These folks sell the Smart Car:
Green Rides, Mike Curtis, 408-871-0500, 86 Railway Ave., Campbell, CA,
95008-3007, mike at greenrides.com

Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters
408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
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I saw my first Smart Car on the road yesterday.  It was on local Morgan 
Hill streets and then took off down 101 from Dunne Ave heading for 
Gilroy at 70 mph.


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't,
then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon Jun  2 12:33:39 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:33:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?iso-8859-1?q?Greenfair_Silicon_Valley=3A_June?=
	=?iso-8859-1?q?_7-8th_in_San_Jos=E9?=
Message-ID: <2529.38.99.84.36.1212435219.squirrel@www.greens.org>

We had tons' o discussion starting last summer in the Santa Clara party
about a great proposal that Fred Duperrault brought up in trying to have a
coalitional effort to have some kind of Green Festival thingy, possibly to
include San Mateo party.  Well we put some effort into it but didn't
manage to shepard the whole concept along and pull it together. 
Nevertheless here's an example of a confluence of coincidental concepts
(great minds thinking alike) has brought along another entity that is
going to hold something kinda like what we had in mind.  I spotted that
this was going to happen months back, but didn't get around to posting
about it.  Nevertheless, its here now and I'd like to see as many of us
check it out as possible, with thoughts about how we might participate in
this one in the future or do some kind of other Green Fest thingy.


Green is Confluence!
Drew
____

http://www.greenfairsiliconvalley.com/
WHAT: Greenfair Silicon Valley

WHEN: June 7-8, 2008

WHERE: San Jose Convention Center, South Hall on Market St.

HOURS: Sat 10-7; Sun 11-5

PRICE:
Adults: $10 per day
Children 12 and under: Free w/ accompanying adult
Seniors 65 and up: $5 per day
Students: $5 per day with valid student ID
Weekend Pass: $15 per person

Show your VTA ticket/pass or bicycle helmet when you register and receive
$5 off your admission. VTA tickets must be dated the same day as admission
date.

Also keep an eye out for $5 discount coupons in local stores and newspapers.

Coupons and discount offers cannot be combined.

DESCRIPTION:
Greenfair Silicon Valley is a two-day business-to-business and
business-to-consumer event that will showcase products and services to
green your business, home, and life. It will include exhibitors who can
help you in your green transformation, ?how-to? seminars, and
presentations from keynote speakers on the Green Vision Stage presented by
PG&E. Other features you will want to see are the NARI Green Showroom,
Great Green Market Place sponsored by Whole Foods Market, and Kids Go
Green sponsored by California Waste Solutions. Greenfair Silicon Valley is
the event to help everyone become ecologically aware and reduce their
carbon footprint!

Attendees will find exhibitors with displays and information and hear
speakers and watch demonstrations of green products technologies, and
services, including:

    * Solar and other alternative power sources
    * Ways to cut energy and water costs using fewer resources
    * Green strategies for home and work
    * Pollution solutions
    * Fuel-efficient vehicles
    * All forms of recycling
    * Mass transit
    * And much more!

Who Should Attend?

    * Local and national government environmental groups
    * Builders, contractors, and architects interested in entering the
green industry
    * Small business owners wanting to transition to green business and/or
green business practices
    * Large business owners and employees who are or want to improve their
company?s corporate social and community governance
    * Transportation company directors and managers
    * Homeowners interested in modifying their homes and lives to be more
ecologically friendly
    * Anyone else who wants to learn how to adopt or already has embraced
sustainability!





From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Jun  2 13:02:15 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:02:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's
 VoterRegistration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <48441F3A.3070705@freeshell.org>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
	<48441F3A.3070705@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <484451C7.70403@aceweb.com>



Fred Duperrault wrote:
> Very good points, Drew!
> 
> Additionally, the Green Party has to figure out how to raise money.
> In the capitalist system, public relations through advertising is a 
> prerequisite to growth. Notice how the political election system is so 
> influenced by the Madison Avenue principles.

I come from more of a "be the media" background. I got this cool light
for my bike at the maker faire in San Mateo County. It goes between the
spokes of the wheel and blinks color in dramatic fashion. I visited the
website of the company and saw "revolutionary lighting product."

http://www.monkeylectric.com/index.htm

Last Friday the creator was on the critical mass ride in San Francisco.
I told him that he had set a new high water mark for entertainment value
"revolution" in my world. The previous best had been an old hippie at
another critical mass ride years ago that told me "a revolution is once
around for a bicycle wheel."

He said "that's what we're trying to do."

The money people have to spend to get one of these lights is of the same
order as a politicial donation. For the money they get a nice light 
which gives them a tiny amount of additional safety and more "coolness."

Riding with this revolutionary light blinking away down a dark street
is fun in a way. Does it feel better than driving an air conditioned
car? I like to think so, but I'm biased. I prefer to think that all
cyclists are volunteers doing a profound political act.
> 
> A major reason why the Democratic Party has followed the Republican 
> Party toward the right (Direction, that is.), is its adoption of the 
> absolute capitalist way of thinking. Because the public has failed in 
> controlling the corporate monopoly of the political system, we have a 
> one party - Repubdecratic - monoploly. To survive, the Democrats have 
> adopted the too popular adage, "If you can't beat 'em (the oligar- 
> chists), join' em!"

The exact reason I prefer to think of "THEM" as all corrupt. The answer 
is not to join them, but rather to make being a good citizen a good
thing in more ways. Think globally, act locally is more than a bumper 
sticker! It's a good idea...
> 
> The Green Party certainly won't join 'em, but it's got to figure out how 
> to raise more money the ethical way.  There is a lot of competition out 
> there for the funding of nonprofit organizations.  Some of the big 
> financially successful nonprofit NGOs, like Greenpeace, Southern Poverty 
> Law Center, Habitat For Humanity, the Sierra Club and Doctors Without 
> Borders, do dramatic things that appeal to the humane emotions of
> generous donors.  It seems that dramatic good deed actions beget
> dramatic contributions.

I have vivid memories of right wingers being furious about how much bang
such people get from their "media stunts". I think it is a much better
value for everybody to make walking your talk a better value than 
leading a heard. Especially considering leading a heard takes a huge
amount of energy, whereas being a fellow traveler takes not much.
The whole "keeping up with the Joneses" thing would be so much better
if it was "being as sustainable as them", especially if they were good.
> 
> If the Green Party could put some of its "Values" into some tangible 
> good deed enterprise like, maybe, "Food For the Outcast", or "Mother 
> Green Earth" workshops, Green political contributions could dramatically 
>   increase.  Of course, the "enterprise" would have to be a separate 501 
> (c) (3) entity - founded and operated by Green Party volunteers.
> 
> A "Green Party Volunteers" entity, independent of the Party, might be a 
> way to achieve some tangible Green Party Value goals that could do
> a lot for the public image of the Green Party.

We're working on it, but more is always needed.
> 
> At least, it would be doing some earthly tangible good.
> 
Amen to that!
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Come on down to my election night party tomorrow! Detail on my site...


From WB4D23 at aol.com  Mon Jun  2 16:49:50 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:49:50 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Requests for Agenda Items for Thursday's Meeting
Message-ID: <d25.2a639fb9.3575e11e@aol.com>

Agenda items suggestions:
 
Report on County Council elections
 
Discussions of email lists uses
 
Tabling Plans
 
Supplies Report
 
National Convention information updates
 
Warner



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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue Jun  3 02:09:02 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 02:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Vote TODAY, for our new Green County Councilors
Message-ID: <2069.38.99.84.36.1212484142.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Make sure to get to the polls and get your Green Party ballot, to vote for
our new County Council.  Below are their pitches:

Green is Go!

Drew Johnson
Green Party of Santa Clara County Councilor


For all their smiling pictures go to:

http://cagreens.org/sclara/june08candidates.shtml

Andrea Dorey

Andrea Dorey is an active host and TV producer based at KMVT in Mountain
View where she has been responsible for over 30 shows for The Better Part
(thebetterpart.com). The shows included: The Amazing Electric Car?parts I
and II, Raging Grannies, Annie and the Vets, the award winning Diabetes,
More or Less, and an interview with Sally Lieber. Andrea's interests were
further reflected in her monthly columns, published in 8 local papers,
that covered health care and quality of life issues for seniors. A
long-time feminist and an experienced GP county council member, Andrea has
been in numerous GP peace marches and protest vigils in the SF Bay Area.


	  Caroline Yacoub

Caroline Yacoub, retired teacher, former soccer mom, grandma, and singer.
I believe that one reason so many people do not vote is that they feel the
Democrats and Republicans do not represent them, do not address their
issues, and do not offer a real choice. I believe that the Green Party,
more than any other "minor" party, has a chance to reach these people,
include them, and involve them. I would like an opportunity, as a member
of the Green Party County Council, to spread the Green message to the
wider community. Democracy only works if people vote.


	  Carol Brouillet

Carol Brouillet organized three conferences on Strategies to Transform the
Global Economy and (the first) marches in 2002 to Demand a Congressional
Investigation of 9-11. She publishes the Deception Dollars, and Co-Founded
the 9-11 Truth Alliance. She organized premieres of films, educational
events, marches, rallies, the San Francisco International Inquiry into
9-11, and the show/film Behind Every Terrorist- There is a Bush. She has
three teenage boys.  She held a weekly Listening Project in downtown Palo
Alto for 6 years, now she holds it on the 11th of each month, and hosts a
weekly radio show- Questioning War- Organizing Resistance.


	  Dana StGeorge

Dana St. George, teacher, mom, activist/accordionist with the Original
Peninsula Raging Grannies. Though the number of registered Greens is
small, I think many people believe in the Green Party as a kind of
political Tooth Fairy that will eventually prevail and save the planet. A
BIG order! To do that, we'll need to "latch on to the positive", spreading
the hopeful ideas, keeping up the pressure, and trying to engage folks in
environmental and political change.



Gerry Gras
# 60 year old Software Engineer Residing in Palo Alto
# Green Party member since 2000
# Support all 10 Key Values
# Long term priority is protecting the planet's environment
# Very strongly opposed to an attack on Iran
# Opposed to wars in Iraq and Aghanistan, should leave  asap
# Need more help for subprime mortgage holders
# Need to undo the tax cuts for the rich
# Need a "We're in this together" society.
# Need a more cooperative, less hostile, foreign policy
# Bush and Cheney should be impeached
Questions? Email me
Comment: I think all the candidates for the County Council are qualified


	  Jim Doyle

I would like to place the emphasis on working locally to bring the issues
the Green Party supports into full view and into the diverse ethnic
communities in Santa Clara County.

Issues such as economic and social justice: enlarge the scope of living
wage laws; increase the support for low income housing
and of course
nonviolence: stop the war in Iraq
environmental protection: (re-)sign the Kyoto protocol and submit it to
the Senate for ratification.


	  Peter Myers

Peter Myers graduated from Los Gatos High School before attending Boston
University for a degree in journalism and a concentration in international
relations. In his college years, he witnessed both the attacks of
September 11th and the beginning of the Iraq War. In 2004, he worked as a
fundraiser for the Democratic Party. After graduating, he worked in
Boston's inner-city school system before volunteering as a teacher and
community organizer for two years in the Peace Corps in Moldova. He now
lives in Campbell and works as a computer teacher at an Apple retail
store.


	  Rob Means

After a 20-year career in computer programming, Mr. Means left corporate
America in 1992 to work on community-oriented projects.  His continuous
involvement since then with the Sunnyhills Neighborhood Association
supports local activism and on-the-ground improvements like the recently
completed two-mile long Hetch-Hetchy linear park.  During a ten-year
tenure on the Bicycle Transportation Advisory Commission he initiated the
planning and construction of creekside trails in Milpitas.  As the small
business owner of Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters, he knows our
transportation challenges - and solutions.  After running for City Council
in 1994, Mr. Means has remained active in local politics.  408-262-8975  
rob.means at electric-bikes.com


	  Tian Harter

I am deeply concerned about the climate change issue and I see green
politics as a honorable and important part of the solution. I am most
widely known for my MEND YOUR FUELISH WAYS sticker campaign and my
website, tian.greens.org. Both of these projects are my idea of green
activism, and I'm hoping to continue them with your support as a Green
Party County Council member. Please vote for Tian Harter on June 3rd.


	  Wes Rolley

One time corporate manager who traded Big Blue for Deep Green. Potter,
columnist in the Morgan Hill Times and the cross that my wife must bear.



From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Jun  3 06:53:07 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:53:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Vote TODAY,
	for our new Green County Councilors
In-Reply-To: <2069.38.99.84.36.1212484142.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <2069.38.99.84.36.1212484142.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <48454CC3.4020805@charter.net>

Drew Johnson wrote:
> Make sure to get to the polls and get your Green Party ballot, to vote for our new County Council.  Below are their pitches:
>   
I would love to do that, but I am beginning to wonder, even about my 
ability to vote at all.

As some may remember, I previously asked you about experiences with vote 
by mail.  I am in a precinct that was assigned to vote by mail for this 
election.  The Registrar of Voters has a web site where you can check 
the status of your ballot.  It is 
http://eservices.sccgov.org/absenteeballot/absenteeballot.do

I have checked, and checked, and checked and it still does not, as of 
election day,  indicate that my ballot has been received even though it 
went in the mail over several weeks ago.

They also give you a number to call.  I have called several times and 
the only answer that I get is that they just went to the post office to 
pick up some more that have not yet been processed, please check back in 
a day or so.

It is now election day, the normal polling location (a long walk from my 
home, but one that I have taken multiple times) is not going to be 
open.  I would like to cast a provisional ballotk but, there is no way 
to even identify where I can go to do that on the Registrar of Voters 
web site.  There is a form to fill out to find your "polling place" but 
all it tells me is that I need to vote by mail.   Which I did.

An interesting sideshow to this saga is that the ROV links to a map of 
your home address when you ask about a polling place.  The map that was 
displayed for my address (17211 Quail Ct. in zip code 95037 shows a 
location just outside of Carroll, Iowa. Just N. of US 30.  It give me a 
lot of confidence in the County's ability to do anything online.

I think that this will generate at least 1, if not more, Columns in the 
MH Times.... and maybe I can get something into the Murky News.

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Jun  3 08:53:18 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:53:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Voting by mail and the ROV
Message-ID: <484568EE.3000108@charter.net>

Telephone contact with the ROV's office today.  They told me that my 
ballot was received on May 23.

The person handling the phone calls today reported that many, many have 
called in and that in every case that they had checked, the ballot was 
there... just that the web site was wrong.

Based on what I see, it should be an easy technical fix is they  put any 
effort at all into  responding to public needs, not internal wants.

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Jun  3 09:06:01 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:06:01 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]
 =?iso-8859-1?q?=5BSC-SM=5D_Greenfair_Silicon_Va?=
 =?iso-8859-1?q?lley=3A_June_7-8th_in_San_Jos=E9?=
In-Reply-To: <2529.38.99.84.36.1212435219.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <2529.38.99.84.36.1212435219.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <E6AC2F62-ADEE-4DCB-B71B-ED5456D2E386@cagreens.org>

I think I'll be going to this.
Is it too late to take part?
A lot of it seems to be small business and some monsters like PG&E  
with their spin.
Andi

On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> We had tons' o discussion starting last summer in the Santa Clara  
> party
> about a great proposal that Fred Duperrault brought up in trying to  
> have a
> coalitional effort to have some kind of Green Festival thingy,  
> possibly to
> include San Mateo party.  Well we put some effort into it but didn't
> manage to shepard the whole concept along and pull it together.
> Nevertheless here's an example of a confluence of coincidental  
> concepts
> (great minds thinking alike) has brought along another entity that is
> going to hold something kinda like what we had in mind.  I spotted  
> that
> this was going to happen months back, but didn't get around to posting
> about it.  Nevertheless, its here now and I'd like to see as many  
> of us
> check it out as possible, with thoughts about how we might  
> participate in
> this one in the future or do some kind of other Green Fest thingy.
>
>
> Green is Confluence!
> Drew
> ____
>
> http://www.greenfairsiliconvalley.com/
> WHAT: Greenfair Silicon Valley
>
> WHEN: June 7-8, 2008
>
> WHERE: San Jose Convention Center, South Hall on Market St.
>
> HOURS: Sat 10-7; Sun 11-5
>
> PRICE:
> Adults: $10 per day
> Children 12 and under: Free w/ accompanying adult
> Seniors 65 and up: $5 per day
> Students: $5 per day with valid student ID
> Weekend Pass: $15 per person
>
> Show your VTA ticket/pass or bicycle helmet when you register and  
> receive
> $5 off your admission. VTA tickets must be dated the same day as  
> admission
> date.
>
> Also keep an eye out for $5 discount coupons in local stores and  
> newspapers.
>
> Coupons and discount offers cannot be combined.
>
> DESCRIPTION:
> Greenfair Silicon Valley is a two-day business-to-business and
> business-to-consumer event that will showcase products and services to
> green your business, home, and life. It will include exhibitors who  
> can
> help you in your green transformation, ?how-to? seminars, and
> presentations from keynote speakers on the Green Vision Stage  
> presented by
> PG&E. Other features you will want to see are the NARI Green Showroom,
> Great Green Market Place sponsored by Whole Foods Market, and Kids Go
> Green sponsored by California Waste Solutions. Greenfair Silicon  
> Valley is
> the event to help everyone become ecologically aware and reduce their
> carbon footprint!
>
> Attendees will find exhibitors with displays and information and hear
> speakers and watch demonstrations of green products technologies, and
> services, including:
>
>     * Solar and other alternative power sources
>     * Ways to cut energy and water costs using fewer resources
>     * Green strategies for home and work
>     * Pollution solutions
>     * Fuel-efficient vehicles
>     * All forms of recycling
>     * Mass transit
>     * And much more!
>
> Who Should Attend?
>
>     * Local and national government environmental groups
>     * Builders, contractors, and architects interested in entering the
> green industry
>     * Small business owners wanting to transition to green business  
> and/or
> green business practices
>     * Large business owners and employees who are or want to  
> improve their
> company?s corporate social and community governance
>     * Transportation company directors and managers
>     * Homeowners interested in modifying their homes and lives to  
> be more
> ecologically friendly
>     * Anyone else who wants to learn how to adopt or already has  
> embraced
> sustainability!
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SC-SM mailing list
> SC-SM at lists.sonic.net
> http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/listinfo/sc-sm
>



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue Jun  3 15:14:13 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election night party at Tian's!
In-Reply-To: <483EFD8E.40904@aceweb.com>
References: <483EFD8E.40904@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <2628.38.99.84.36.1212531253.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Tonight!  Come join us!

WHAT: Election night party at Tian's! Come on down!

WHEN: anytime between 7 PM and 10 PM, Tuesday June 3rd, 2008.

WHERE: the clubhouse at 505 Cypress Point Drive in Mountain View.

OCCASION: We're on the ballot, and who knows how the election will come out?
BRING: whatever you want. I'm going to provide some beer, and maybe some
chips and salsa. Bring anything else you really want to have.  I'm hoping
there will be plenty of casual mixing.  I've already gotten several RSVP
from fellow candidates for County Council, so at least something will
happen! If you're interested there is a (smallish) pool, a hot tub, a
sauna, a ping pong table, and a TV and sound system to watch the telecast
stuff on. Come on down. Hopefully Cameron can get us a live feed from the
Registrar of Voters so we can find out who won in real time.

MAP: http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/638PartyAnoucement.html


Green is Connection!

Drew

On Thu, May 29, 2008 12:01, Tian Harter wrote:
> For weeks I've been telling people that I was having an election night
> party. I finally got the paperwork filed to rent the room and put an
> announcement on my website, with directions and specifics. See it at:
>
> http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/638PartyAnoucement.html
>
> If you're in the area come on down. At the least you will be one of the
> first to know who won Santa Clara County's Green Party County Council
> contest. You might even get to hear a few victory and concession speeches!
> --
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: Added pro impeachment press conference report.





From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue Jun  3 15:36:39 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:36:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Feb Santa Clara Voting Stats by party
Message-ID: <2694.38.99.84.36.1212532599.squirrel@www.greens.org>

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_primary/05_voter_stats_by_party_feb08.pdf

VOTER PARTICIPATION STATISTICS BY COUNTY AND PARTY

County
   Number of  Precincts
          Eligible to  Register
                     Registered Voters
                             Precinct Voters
                                    Vote-By-Mail Voters
                                            Total Voters
                                                   Percent of Registered
                                                         Percent of Eligible

Santa Clara
    929   1,101,684  689,052 175,875 281,817 457,692  66.42%  41.54%


VOTER PARTICIPATION STATISTICS BY COUNTY AND PARTY
Democratic
     Republican
            American Independent
                   Green
                         Libertarian
                                 Peace & Freedom
                                        Misc. &  DTS
                                                Total Voters


Santa Clara
284,879
     123,625
             7,501
                   2,330
                          1,838
                                   531
                                         36,988
                                                 457,692



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From: MKmusic03 at aol.com (MKmusic03 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 03:00:28 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Big Victory for US War Resisters in Canada!
Message-ID: <be6.28e09ef3.3577978c@aol.com>

Hi All,

Great news for war resisters!!!!

Merriam


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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Jun  4 13:18:08 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:18:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The ROV's current standings for our race
Message-ID: <4846F880.7060502@aceweb.com>

Completed Precincts 1,113 of 1,113
   Percent  Votes
   CAROL BROUILLET      13.36%  397
   DANA M. ST. GEORGE   13.33%  396
   CAROLINE YACOUB      11.92%  354
   TIAN HARTER          10.54%  313
   WES ROLLEY           10.47%  311
   ANDREA DOREY          9.66%  287
   JIM DOYLE             8.92%  265
   PETER MYERS           8.62%  256
   GERALD S. GRAS        6.66%  198
   ROB MEANS             6.53%  194
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added my review of The Omnivore's Dilemma by M. Pollan.
In yesterdays election I came in 4th out of 10 running for 7 seats.
That got me elected by the Green Party voters to our County Council.


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun  4 15:29:45 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:29:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Juneteenth tabling, gay pride parade
Message-ID: <48471759.4080401@sbcglobal.net>

This is a call for tablers and marchers.

As of Wednesday afternoon June 4-th
one person has committed to marching - Valerie
and two persons have committed to tabling at Juneteenth:
Jim Stauffer and Tian.

We need more tablers and marchers.

Please let me know when and where you can help.

Jim Doyle




From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Jun  4 17:42:13 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:42:13 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How the County Council Race turned out in Santa
	Clara County...
Message-ID: <48473665.8090601@aceweb.com>

To make a long story short, here are the current numbers as of 6/4:

   CAROL BROUILLET      13.36%  420
   DANA M. ST. GEORGE   13.30%  418
   CAROLINE YACOUB      11.99%  377
   TIAN HARTER          10.46%  329
   WES ROLLEY           10.37%  326
   ANDREA DOREY          9.73%  306
   JIM DOYLE             8.94%  281
   PETER MYERS           8.65%  272
   GERALD S. GRAS        6.74%  212
   ROB MEANS             6.46%  203

If you want to see my pictures from the election night party click here:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/My/Clubhouse/CouncilElection08/index.html

We had a great time. I'm still dazzled that so many voters gave me a nod!
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest addition: pictures from my election night party last evening.
In case you were curious I came in 4th out of 10 running for 7 seats.
That got me elected by the Green Party voters to our County Council.


From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 19:44:01 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:44:01 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How the County Council Race turned out in
	Santa Clara C...
Message-ID: <d17.2b14c69f.3578acf1@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 6/4/2008 5:36:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
tnharter at aceweb.com writes:

To make  a long story short, here are the current numbers as of  6/4:

CAROL BROUILLET      13.36%   420
DANA M. ST. GEORGE   13.30%   418
CAROLINE YACOUB      11.99%   377
TIAN HARTER          10.46%   329
WES ROLLEY            10.37%  326
ANDREA DOREY         9.73%  306
JIM DOYLE         8.94%  281
PETER MYERS     8.65%  272
GERALD S.  GRAS        6.74%  212
ROB  MEANS             6.46%   203




So which one of our County Council members is going to take  responsibility 
for posting a draft agenda for tomorrow evening's meeting?   Warner



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From andid at cagreens.org  Wed Jun  4 20:59:40 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]
 =?iso-8859-1?q?Greenfair_Silicon_Valley=3A_June?=
 =?iso-8859-1?q?_7-8th_in_San_Jos=E9?=
In-Reply-To: <2529.38.99.84.36.1212435219.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <2529.38.99.84.36.1212435219.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <5FFCD327-D2B6-4250-9387-04785CC622FB@cagreens.org>

There was an insert in the June 1st Murky News with two $5 off  
coupons (one of them on page 36) for you and a friend.
Andrea

On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> We had tons' o discussion starting last summer in the Santa Clara  
> party
> about a great proposal that Fred Duperrault brought up in trying to  
> have a
> coalitional effort to have some kind of Green Festival thingy,  
> possibly to
> include San Mateo party.  Well we put some effort into it but didn't
> manage to shepard the whole concept along and pull it together.
> Nevertheless here's an example of a confluence of coincidental  
> concepts
> (great minds thinking alike) has brought along another entity that is
> going to hold something kinda like what we had in mind.  I spotted  
> that
> this was going to happen months back, but didn't get around to posting
> about it.  Nevertheless, its here now and I'd like to see as many  
> of us
> check it out as possible, with thoughts about how we might  
> participate in
> this one in the future or do some kind of other Green Fest thingy.
>
>
> Green is Confluence!
> Drew
> ____
>
> http://www.greenfairsiliconvalley.com/
> WHAT: Greenfair Silicon Valley
>
> WHEN: June 7-8, 2008
>
> WHERE: San Jose Convention Center, South Hall on Market St.
>
> HOURS: Sat 10-7; Sun 11-5
>
> PRICE:
> Adults: $10 per day
> Children 12 and under: Free w/ accompanying adult
> Seniors 65 and up: $5 per day
> Students: $5 per day with valid student ID
> Weekend Pass: $15 per person
>
> Show your VTA ticket/pass or bicycle helmet when you register and  
> receive
> $5 off your admission. VTA tickets must be dated the same day as  
> admission
> date.
>
> Also keep an eye out for $5 discount coupons in local stores and  
> newspapers.
>
> Coupons and discount offers cannot be combined.
>
> DESCRIPTION:
> Greenfair Silicon Valley is a two-day business-to-business and
> business-to-consumer event that will showcase products and services to
> green your business, home, and life. It will include exhibitors who  
> can
> help you in your green transformation, ?how-to? seminars, and
> presentations from keynote speakers on the Green Vision Stage  
> presented by
> PG&E. Other features you will want to see are the NARI Green Showroom,
> Great Green Market Place sponsored by Whole Foods Market, and Kids Go
> Green sponsored by California Waste Solutions. Greenfair Silicon  
> Valley is
> the event to help everyone become ecologically aware and reduce their
> carbon footprint!
>
> Attendees will find exhibitors with displays and information and hear
> speakers and watch demonstrations of green products technologies, and
> services, including:
>
>     * Solar and other alternative power sources
>     * Ways to cut energy and water costs using fewer resources
>     * Green strategies for home and work
>     * Pollution solutions
>     * Fuel-efficient vehicles
>     * All forms of recycling
>     * Mass transit
>     * And much more!
>
> Who Should Attend?
>
>     * Local and national government environmental groups
>     * Builders, contractors, and architects interested in entering the
> green industry
>     * Small business owners wanting to transition to green business  
> and/or
> green business practices
>     * Large business owners and employees who are or want to  
> improve their
> company?s corporate social and community governance
>     * Transportation company directors and managers
>     * Homeowners interested in modifying their homes and lives to  
> be more
> ecologically friendly
>     * Anyone else who wants to learn how to adopt or already has  
> embraced
> sustainability!
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun  5 08:20:09 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:20:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SC-SM] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's
	VoterRegistration Report of 5/19/08
In-Reply-To: <484451C7.70403@aceweb.com>
References: <20080601223006.4083.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
	<48441F3A.3070705@freeshell.org> <484451C7.70403@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <8A731010-97DD-477C-A47E-E6FF4A336129@cagreens.org>

And I am doing something like the "cool light for my bike" approach  
(see below) by putting the most relevant bumper stickers in my  
windows where cars on either side of me at intersections can read  
them!  I get some great reactions!
Andrea

On Jun 2, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
>
>
> Fred Duperrault wrote:
>> Very good points, Drew!
>>
>> Additionally, the Green Party has to figure out how to raise money.
>> In the capitalist system, public relations through advertising is a
>> prerequisite to growth. Notice how the political election system  
>> is so
>> influenced by the Madison Avenue principles.
>
> I come from more of a "be the media" background. I got this cool light
> for my bike at the maker faire in San Mateo County. It goes between  
> the
> spokes of the wheel and blinks color in dramatic fashion. I visited  
> the
> website of the company and saw "revolutionary lighting product."
>
> http://www.monkeylectric.com/index.htm
>
> Last Friday the creator was on the critical mass ride in San  
> Francisco.
> I told him that he had set a new high water mark for entertainment  
> value
> "revolution" in my world. The previous best had been an old hippie at
> another critical mass ride years ago that told me "a revolution is  
> once
> around for a bicycle wheel."
>
> He said "that's what we're trying to do."
>
> The money people have to spend to get one of these lights is of the  
> same
> order as a politicial donation. For the money they get a nice light
> which gives them a tiny amount of additional safety and more  
> "coolness."
>
> Riding with this revolutionary light blinking away down a dark street
> is fun in a way. Does it feel better than driving an air conditioned
> car? I like to think so, but I'm biased. I prefer to think that all
> cyclists are volunteers doing a profound political act.
>>
>> A major reason why the Democratic Party has followed the Republican
>> Party toward the right (Direction, that is.), is its adoption of the
>> absolute capitalist way of thinking. Because the public has failed in
>> controlling the corporate monopoly of the political system, we have a
>> one party - Repubdecratic - monoploly. To survive, the Democrats have
>> adopted the too popular adage, "If you can't beat 'em (the oligar-
>> chists), join' em!"
>
> The exact reason I prefer to think of "THEM" as all corrupt. The  
> answer
> is not to join them, but rather to make being a good citizen a good
> thing in more ways. Think globally, act locally is more than a bumper
> sticker! It's a good idea...
>>
>> The Green Party certainly won't join 'em, but it's got to figure  
>> out how
>> to raise more money the ethical way.  There is a lot of  
>> competition out
>> there for the funding of nonprofit organizations.  Some of the big
>> financially successful nonprofit NGOs, like Greenpeace, Southern  
>> Poverty
>> Law Center, Habitat For Humanity, the Sierra Club and Doctors Without
>> Borders, do dramatic things that appeal to the humane emotions of
>> generous donors.  It seems that dramatic good deed actions beget
>> dramatic contributions.
>
> I have vivid memories of right wingers being furious about how much  
> bang
> such people get from their "media stunts". I think it is a much better
> value for everybody to make walking your talk a better value than
> leading a heard. Especially considering leading a heard takes a huge
> amount of energy, whereas being a fellow traveler takes not much.
> The whole "keeping up with the Joneses" thing would be so much better
> if it was "being as sustainable as them", especially if they were  
> good.
>>
>> If the Green Party could put some of its "Values" into some tangible
>> good deed enterprise like, maybe, "Food For the Outcast", or "Mother
>> Green Earth" workshops, Green political contributions could  
>> dramatically
>>   increase.  Of course, the "enterprise" would have to be a  
>> separate 501
>> (c) (3) entity - founded and operated by Green Party volunteers.
>>
>> A "Green Party Volunteers" entity, independent of the Party, might  
>> be a
>> way to achieve some tangible Green Party Value goals that could do
>> a lot for the public image of the Green Party.
>
> We're working on it, but more is always needed.
>>
>> At least, it would be doing some earthly tangible good.
>>
> Amen to that!
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Come on down to my election night party tomorrow! Detail on my site...
> _______________________________________________
> SC-SM mailing list
> SC-SM at lists.sonic.net
> http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/listinfo/sc-sm
>



From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun  5 08:11:54 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:11:54 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How the County Council Race turned out in
	Santa Clara C...
In-Reply-To: <d17.2b14c69f.3578acf1@aol.com>
References: <d17.2b14c69f.3578acf1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <EE97054D-111A-44AA-BF6F-49D533113E60@cagreens.org>

I can do it until July 15 as I have wifi 24-7, but after that,  
someone else will be more accessible.
Andrea
PS - Here's what we seem to have so far (thanks to Warner):

Agenda items suggestions:

Report on County Council elections

Discussions of email lists uses

Tabling Plans

Supplies Report

National Convention information updates

And I'd like to add: local TV show by Greens and other progressives  
at the newly forming San Jose public access channel.

Andrea





On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:44 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 6/4/2008 5:36:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
> tnharter at aceweb.com writes:
> To make a long story short, here are the current numbers as of 6/4:
>
>    CAROL BROUILLET      13.36%  420
>    DANA M. ST. GEORGE   13.30%  418
>    CAROLINE YACOUB      11.99%  377
>    TIAN HARTER          10.46%  329
>    WES ROLLEY           10.37%  326
>    ANDREA DOREY          9.73%  306
>    JIM DOYLE             8.94%  281
>    PETER MYERS           8.65%  272
>    GERALD S. GRAS        6.74%  212
>    ROB MEANS             6.46%  203
>
> So which one of our County Council members is going to take  
> responsibility for posting a draft agenda for tomorrow evening's  
> meeting?  Warner
>
>
>
> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler  
> Florence" on AOL Food.
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun  5 08:38:27 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Book Outlines Case for Bush Conviction for
	Murder...
Message-ID: <098C00A8-9165-4358-B8AE-4E5361338EC3@cagreens.org>

On KPFA on the Morning Show with Andrea Lewis (a vet):  Victor  
Buglioso (sp?), author of Helter, Skelter.

This new book met with a blanket rejection right from the start?a  
first for his books? and it continues into the audio book and  
schlepping stages.

He dissed impeachment: impeached presidents continue to enjoy life,  
but having a possible conviction over his head for the rest of his  
life is what this mass murderer deserves, VB says.

The case is so complete that any attorney general, etc., at the  
national, state, county, city level can indict him.  Pretty good  
work, eh?

Now all we need is one with the guts to do it.  VB thinks there will  
be, sooner or later.
Andrea

From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun  5 08:42:57 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:42:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: How the County Council & Agenda to date...
References: <EE97054D-111A-44AA-BF6F-49D533113E60@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <52B124F9-EA4D-4EEC-B679-34B2ACAB65BA@cagreens.org>

See below...

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org>
> Date: June 5, 2008 8:11:54 AM PDT
> To: WB4D23 at aol.com
> Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How the County Council Race turned  
> out in Santa Clara C...
>
> I can do it until July 15 as I have wifi 24-7, but after that,  
> someone else will be more accessible.
> Andrea
> PS - Here's what we seem to have so far (thanks to Warner):
>
> Agenda items suggestions:
>
> Report on County Council elections
>
> Discussions of email lists uses
>
> Tabling Plans
>
> Supplies Report
>
> National Convention information updates
>
> And I'd like to add: local TV show by Greens and other progressives  
> at the newly forming San Jose public access channel.
>
> Andrea
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:44 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 6/4/2008 5:36:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
>> tnharter at aceweb.com writes:
>> To make a long story short, here are the current numbers as of 6/4:
>>
>>    CAROL BROUILLET      13.36%  420
>>    DANA M. ST. GEORGE   13.30%  418
>>    CAROLINE YACOUB      11.99%  377
>>    TIAN HARTER          10.46%  329
>>    WES ROLLEY           10.37%  326
>>    ANDREA DOREY          9.73%  306
>>    JIM DOYLE             8.94%  281
>>    PETER MYERS           8.65%  272
>>    GERALD S. GRAS        6.74%  212
>>    ROB MEANS             6.46%  203
>>
>> So which one of our County Council members is going to take  
>> responsibility for posting a draft agenda for tomorrow evening's  
>> meeting?  Warner
>>
>>
>>
>> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler  
>> Florence" on AOL Food.
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun  5 08:44:40 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:44:40 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Fwd=3A_Looking_for_Co-Sponsors?=
 =?windows-1252?q?_for_Health_Care_Forum=97Add_to_Cty_Council_Agenda=3F?=
References: <BAY122-W470F3F63C36B8490E660293B40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9EBA2328-108D-4013-9DFD-47AD92C9A7A3@cagreens.org>

FYI,
Andrea

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
> Date: June 5, 2008 2:18:52 AM PDT
> To: <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Looking for Co-Sponsors for Health Care Forum July 10 in  
> Mt. View
>
> I have organized an exciting forum on July 10 . I am hoping that  
> many organizations will co-sponsor the event with us: the Peninsula  
> Democratic Coalition, HCA Chapter-Santa Clara County, the Single  
> Payer Coalition.
> I will need help with the event itself such as setting up  
> refreshments,setting up a literature table, advertising the event  
> for a good turnout, designing a jazzy flyer,etc.
> Please RSVP if you are interested in being part of this educational  
> effort.
> Thanks!
> Lynn
>
>
> I am working with the PDC on holding a Health Care Forum in July.  
> The Mt. View City Council Chambers will be the venue.  It will be  
> held on Thursday, July 10 6:30-9PM.
>
> Forum Agenda:
> 1) Show the 22 minute DVD, 'The Healthcare Solution:California  
> OneCare' which you can view on You Tube
> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=California 
> +Onecare&search=Search
> It highlights the crisis, folks affected by it, how SB840 would  
> help solve it. It features John Garamendi, Sheila Kuehl, Antonio  
> Villaraigosa among others. I would explain after the DVD that this  
> is what we hope for in the future knowing it will take awhile to  
> get it passed. In the meantime, this is what leaders in Santa Clara  
> County are doing to help those who are affected by the crisis:
>
> 2) Kim Roberts, CEO of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center, will give  
> a 20 minute presentation on how the Valley Health and Hospital  
> System addresses the needs of insured and uninsured county  
> residents and the financial challenges they face. I have worked as  
> a Pediatric Nurse there for several years in the past and was very  
> impressed at what high caliber care given by the staff,  
> resources,etc. they have for a county facility. They have a world  
> famous head injury rehabilitation center, a spinal cord rehab.  
> unit, an excellent burn center( that I have worked in), a high  
> level trauma center,it is a Stanford teaching hospital,etc.- 30  
> minutes
>
> 3) Leona Butler, CEO, Family Health Plan, which administers the  
> Healthy Kids program for uninsured kids, and will soon be  
> administering the new, innovative, Healthy Workers program, which  
> will provide access to approx. 5,000 uninsured working adults who  
> work in small businesses. They will receive their care at VMC and  
> their clinics. 15 minutes
>
> 4) I had hoped for Liz Kniss to participate because as Supervisor  
> she was instrumental in supporting the new Health Workers program.  
> However, the Supervisors have their long deserved break the whole  
> month of July. I have then invited Sally Lieber to see if she's  
> available.  10 minutes
> If she isn't available I am open to suggestions. I had thought of a  
> doctor from the VMC system about providing care or a medical  
> student, whose org. AMSA, supports SB840. The nurses, esp. those  
> who are CNA members, are already involved. I am trying to get more  
> doctors involved in the Single Payer movement.
>
> 5) The remainder= 35-40 minutes Q&A with action items. How can  
> folks help with this issue. HCA would have SB840 handouts on tables  
> outside. And anyone else's literature pertinent to the issue.
>
> Thanks, Lynn
>
>
> Lynn Huidekoper, RN
> Legislative Liaison
> Health Care for All Californians-Silicon Valley Coalition
> Sheila Kuehl's Single Payer SB840
> Menlo Park CA.
> 650-322-9609
> http://www.onecarenow.org
> http://www.healthcareforall.org
> Health Care is a Human Right

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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun  5 10:09:36 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:09:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] County Council Agenda: More...
Message-ID: <2DDFD932-4005-4258-A180-2CB063339E58@cagreens.org>


Begin forwarded message:
From: Andrea Dorey <andid at cagreens.org>
Date: June 5, 2008 8:11:54 AM PDT
To: WB4D23 at aol.com
Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How the County Council Race turned out  
in Santa Clara C...

I can do it until July 15 as I have wifi 24-7, but after that,  
someone else will be more accessible.
Andrea
PS - Here's what we seem to have so far (thanks to Warner):

Agenda items suggestions:

Report on County Council elections

Discussions of email lists uses

Tabling Plans

Supplies Report

National Convention information updates

Start planning for local TV show by Greens and other progressives at  
the newly forming San Jose public access studio?

Replacement to take over Jim's work with scheduling shifts for  
upcoming American Festival (see Jim's email/May 31st).






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From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu Jun  5 14:23:31 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:23:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How the County Council Race turned out
 in	Santa Clara C...
In-Reply-To: <d17.2b14c69f.3578acf1@aol.com>
References: <d17.2b14c69f.3578acf1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <48485953.5080202@freeshell.org>

Let's Add to the Agenda:

1) Growing the Green Party With Greater Positive Visibility; 

2) How to boost our presidential candidate via the internet and; 

3) Begin a Green dialog regarding "How a people's UN parliamentary 
assembly could significantly contribute to global sustainability and 
overcoming social and political disparities. (Such a topic would effect 
concerns in most, if not all, "The Ten Key Values of the Green Party.")

Fred D.

I can do it until July 15 as I have wifi 24-7, but after that, someone 
else will be more accessible.
Andrea
PS - Here's what we seem to have so far (thanks to Warner):

Agenda items suggestions:

 

Report on County Council elections

 

Discussions of email lists uses

 

Tabling Plans

 

Supplies Report

 

National Convention information updates


And I'd like to add: local TV show by Greens and other progressives at 
the newly forming San Jose public access channel.


Andrea 






On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:44 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com <mailto:WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 6/4/2008 5:36:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> tnharter at aceweb.com <mailto:tnharter at aceweb.com> writes:
>
>     To make a long story short, here are the current numbers as of 6/4:
>
>        CAROL BROUILLET      13.36%  420
>        DANA M. ST. GEORGE   13.30%  418
>        CAROLINE YACOUB      11.99%  377
>        TIAN HARTER          10.46%  329
>        WES ROLLEY           10.37%  326
>        ANDREA DOREY          9.73%  306
>        JIM DOYLE             8.94%  281
>        PETER MYERS           8.65%  272
>        GERALD S. GRAS        6.74%  212
>        ROB MEANS             6.46%  203
>
> So which one of our County Council members is going to take 
> responsibility for posting a draft agenda for tomorrow evening's 
> meeting?  Warner
>
>
>
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From wrolley at charter.net  Thu Jun  5 15:48:35 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:48:35 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How the County Council Race turned out
 in	Santa Clara C...
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Fred Duperrault wrote:
> Let's Add to the Agenda:
>
> 1) Growing the Green Party With Greater Positive Visibility; 
>
> 2) How to boost our presidential candidate via the internet and; 
>
> 3) Begin a Green dialog regarding "How a people's UN parliamentary 
> assembly could significantly contribute to global sustainability and 
> overcoming social and political disparities. (Such a topic would 
> effect concerns in most, if not all, "The Ten Key Values of the Green 
> Party.")
I will not make the meeting tonight.  Relatives arriving from Japan 
tomorrow.

However, I think we need to consider the following:

We have 2 candidates running for Congress in our County.  The Campaign 
and Candidates Working Group has been asking for a contact / responsible 
person in each county as part of a 2 way dialog with CCWG.

We need to fully understand how this will work, and how we might use any 
such contacts (CCWG, Media Committee, etc.) in order to further the 
campaigns for Carol and Peter.

It is also my sense that this should not be put off until July.

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri Jun  6 11:12:45 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:12:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]
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Note that the GPSCC are already members of the below mentioned SCC Single
Payer Coalition;  Yes, let's co-sponsor this thing and get some credit for
all the work we do already (but normally don't get our name on).  The
County Council can authorize it -- and since we're already members of the
coalition it should be noncontroversial no-brainer affirmation.


Green is Care!

Drew


On Thu, June 5, 2008 08:44, Andrea Dorey wrote:
> FYI,
> Andrea
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
>> Date: June 5, 2008 2:18:52 AM PDT
>> To: <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Looking for Co-Sponsors for Health Care Forum July 10 in
>> Mt. View
>>
>> I have organized an exciting forum on July 10 . I am hoping that
>> many organizations will co-sponsor the event with us: the Peninsula
>> Democratic Coalition, HCA Chapter-Santa Clara County, the Single
>> Payer Coalition.
>> I will need help with the event itself such as setting up
>> refreshments,setting up a literature table, advertising the event
>> for a good turnout, designing a jazzy flyer,etc.
>> Please RSVP if you are interested in being part of this educational
>> effort.
>> Thanks!
>> Lynn
>>
>>
>> I am working with the PDC on holding a Health Care Forum in July.
>> The Mt. View City Council Chambers will be the venue.  It will be
>> held on Thursday, July 10 6:30-9PM.
>>
>> Forum Agenda:
>> 1) Show the 22 minute DVD, 'The Healthcare Solution:California
>> OneCare' which you can view on You Tube
>> http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=California
>> +Onecare&search=Search
>> It highlights the crisis, folks affected by it, how SB840 would
>> help solve it. It features John Garamendi, Sheila Kuehl, Antonio
>> Villaraigosa among others. I would explain after the DVD that this
>> is what we hope for in the future knowing it will take awhile to
>> get it passed. In the meantime, this is what leaders in Santa Clara
>> County are doing to help those who are affected by the crisis:
>>
>> 2) Kim Roberts, CEO of Santa Clara Valley Medical Center, will give
>> a 20 minute presentation on how the Valley Health and Hospital
>> System addresses the needs of insured and uninsured county
>> residents and the financial challenges they face. I have worked as
>> a Pediatric Nurse there for several years in the past and was very
>> impressed at what high caliber care given by the staff,
>> resources,etc. they have for a county facility. They have a world
>> famous head injury rehabilitation center, a spinal cord rehab.
>> unit, an excellent burn center( that I have worked in), a high
>> level trauma center,it is a Stanford teaching hospital,etc.- 30
>> minutes
>>
>> 3) Leona Butler, CEO, Family Health Plan, which administers the
>> Healthy Kids program for uninsured kids, and will soon be
>> administering the new, innovative, Healthy Workers program, which
>> will provide access to approx. 5,000 uninsured working adults who
>> work in small businesses. They will receive their care at VMC and
>> their clinics. 15 minutes
>>
>> 4) I had hoped for Liz Kniss to participate because as Supervisor
>> she was instrumental in supporting the new Health Workers program.
>> However, the Supervisors have their long deserved break the whole
>> month of July. I have then invited Sally Lieber to see if she's
>> available.  10 minutes
>> If she isn't available I am open to suggestions. I had thought of a
>> doctor from the VMC system about providing care or a medical
>> student, whose org. AMSA, supports SB840. The nurses, esp. those
>> who are CNA members, are already involved. I am trying to get more
>> doctors involved in the Single Payer movement.
>>
>> 5) The remainder= 35-40 minutes Q&A with action items. How can
>> folks help with this issue. HCA would have SB840 handouts on tables
>> outside. And anyone else's literature pertinent to the issue.
>>
>> Thanks, Lynn
>>
>>
>> Lynn Huidekoper, RN
>> Legislative Liaison
>> Health Care for All Californians-Silicon Valley Coalition
>> Sheila Kuehl's Single Payer SB840
>> Menlo Park CA.
>> 650-322-9609
>> http://www.onecarenow.org
>> http://www.healthcareforall.org
>> Health Care is a Human Right
>
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri Jun  6 11:32:56 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Attention Geeks and Hackers: Uncle Sam's
 Cyber Force Wants You!
Message-ID: <1085.38.99.84.36.1212777176.squirrel@www.greens.org>

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Subject: [usgp-media] Attention Geeks and Hackers: Uncle Sam's Cyber Force
Wants You!
From:    "Nancy Allen" <nallen at prexar.com>
Date:    Fri, June 6, 2008 08:07
To:      usgp-media at lists.gp-us.org
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OK..combine this with the Air Force plan for drone wars fought from US
computers and you get an idea of the nasty plans for what will constitute
the future of US military madness.
Nancy
http://www.truthout.org/article/attention-geeks-and-hackers
Attention Geeks and Hackers: Uncle Sam's Cyber Force Wants You!
Thursday 05 June 2008
by: William J. Astore, TomDispatch.com

Recently, while I was on a visit to Salon.com, my computer screen
momentarily went black. A glitch? A power surge? No, it was a pop-up ad
for the U.S. Air Force, warning me that an enemy cyber-attack could come
at any moment - with dire consequences for my ability to connect to the
Internet. It was an Outer Limits moment. Remember that eerie sci-fi show
from the early 1960s? The one that began in a blur with the message,
"There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust
the picture. We are controlling transmission...." It felt a little like
that.

    And speaking of Air Force ads, there's one currently running on TV and
on the Internet that starts with a bird's eye view of the Pentagon as
a narrator intones, "This building will be attacked three million
times today. Who's going to protect it?" Two Army colleagues of mine
nearly died on September 11, 2001, when the [SNIP] crashed into the
Pentagon, so I can't say I appreciated the none-too-subtle reminder of
that day's carnage. Leaving that aside, it turns out that the ad is
referring to cyber-attacks and that the cyber protector it has in mind
is a new breed of "air" warrior, part of an entirely new Cyber Command
run by the Air Force. Using the latest technology, our cyber elite
will "shoot down" enemy hackers and saboteurs, both foreign and
domestic, thereby dominating the realm of cyberspace, just as the Air
Force is currently seeking to dominate the planet's air space - and
then space itself "to the shining stars and beyond."

    Part of the Air Force's new "above all" vision of full-spectrum
dominance, America's emerging cyber force has control fantasies that
would impress George Orwell. Working with the Defense Advanced
Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the Department of Homeland Security,
and other governmental agencies, the Air Force's stated goal is to
gain access to, and control over, any and all networked computers,
anywhere on Earth, at a proposed cost to you, the American taxpayer,
of $30 billion over the first five years.

    Here, the Air Force is advancing the now familiar Bush-era idea that
the only effective defense is a dominating offense. According to Lani
Kass, previously the head of the Air Force's Cyberspace Task Force and
now a special assistant to the Air Force Chief of Staff, "If you're
defending in cyber [space], you're already too late. Cyber delivers on
the original promise of air power. If you don't dominate in cyber, you
cannot dominate in other domains."

    Such logic is commonplace in today's Air Force (as it has been for
Bush administration foreign policy). A threat is identified, our
vulnerability to it is trumpeted, and then our response is to spend
tens of billions of dollars launching a quest for total domination.
Thus, on May 12th of this year, the Air Force Research Laboratory
posted an official "request for proposal" seeking contractor bids to
begin the push to achieve "dominant cyber offensive engagement." The
desired capabilities constitute a disturbing militarization of
cyberspace:

"Of interest are any and all techniques to enable user and/or root access
to both fixed (PC) or mobile computing platforms. Robust methodologies to
enable access to any and all operating systems, patch levels, applications
and hardware.... [T]echnology ... to maintain an active presence within
the adversaries' information infrastructure completely undetected ...
[A]ny and all techniques to enable stealth and persistence capabilities
... [C]apability to stealthily exfiltrate information from any
remotely-located open or closed computer information systems ..."
    Stealthily infiltrating, stealing, and exfiltrating: Sounds like
cyber-cat burglars, or perhaps invisible cyber-SEALS, as in that U.S.
Navy "empty beach at night" commercial. This is consistent with an Air
Force-sponsored concept paper on "network-centric warfare," which
posits the deployment of so-called "cyber-craft" in cyberspace to
"disable terminals, nodes or the entire network as well as send
commands to 'fry' their hard drives." Somebody clever with acronyms
came up with D5, an all-encompassing term that embraces the ability to
deceive, deny, disrupt, degrade, and destroy an enemy's computer
information systems.

    No one, it seems, is the least bit worried that a single-minded
pursuit of cyber-"destruction" - analogous to that "crush ... kill ...
destroy" android on the 1960s TV series "Lost in Space" - could create
a new arena for that old Cold War nuclear acronym MAD (mutually
assured destruction), as America's enemies and rivals seek to D5 our
terminals, nodes, and networks.

    Here's another less-than-comforting thought: America's new Cyber Force
will most likely be widely distributed in basing terms. In fact, the
Air Force prefers a "headquarters" spread across several bases here in
the U.S., thereby cleverly tapping the political support of more than
a few members of Congress.

    Finally, if, after all this talk of the need for "information
dominance" and the five D's, you still remain skeptical, the Air Force
has prepared an online "What Do You Think?" survey and quiz (paid for,
again, by you, the taxpayer, of course) to silence naysayers and
cyberspace appeasers. It will disabuse you of the notion that the
Internet is a somewhat benign realm where cooperation of all sorts,
including the international sort, is possible. You'll learn, instead,
that we face nothing but ceaseless hostility from cyber-thugs seeking
to terrorize all of us everywhere all the time.

    Of Ugly Babies, Icebergs, and Air Force Computer Systems

    Computers and their various networks are unquestionably vital to our
national defense - indeed, to our very way of life - and we do need to
be able to protect them from cyber attacks. In addition, striking at
an enemy's ability to command and control its forces has always been
part of warfare. But spending $6 billion a year for five years on a
mini-Manhattan Project to atomize our opponents' computer networks is
an escalatory boondoggle of the worst sort.

    Leaving aside the striking potential for the abuse of privacy, or the
potentially destabilizing responses of rivals to such aggressive
online plans, the Air Force's militarization of cyberspace is likely
to yield uncertain technical benefits at inflated prices, if my
experience working on two big Air Force computer projects counts for
anything. Admittedly, that experience is a bit dated, but keep in mind
that the wheels of procurement reform at the Department of Defense
(DoD) do turn slowly, when they turn at all.

    Two decades ago, while I was at the Space Surveillance Center in
Cheyenne Mountain, the Air Force awarded a contract to update our
computer system. The new system, known as SPADOC 4, was, as one Air
Force tester put it, the "ugly baby." Years later, and no prettier,
the baby finally came on-line, part of a Cheyenne Mountain upgrade
that was hundreds of millions of dollars over budget. One Air Force
captain described it in the following way:

"The SPADOC system was ... designed very poorly in terms of its human
machine interface ... [leading to] a lot of work arounds that make
learning the system difficult ... [Fortunately,] people are adaptable and
they can learn to operate a poorly designed machine, like SPADOC, [but the
result is] increased training time, increased stress for the operators,
increased human errors under stress and unused machine capabilities."
    My second experience came a decade ago, when I worked on the Air Force
Mission Support System or AFMSS. The idea was to enable pilots to plan
their missions using the latest tools of technology, rather than paper
charts, rulers, and calculators. A sound idea, but again botched in
execution.

    The Air Force tried to design a mission planner for every platform and
mission, from tankers to bombers. To meet such disparate needs took
time, money, and massive computing power, so the Air Force went with
Unix-based SPARC platforms, which occupied a small room. The software
itself was difficult to learn, even counter-intuitive. While the Air
Force struggled, year after year, to get AFMSS to work, competitors
came along with PC-based flight planners, which provided 80% of
AFMSS's functionality at a fraction of the cost. Naturally, pilots
began clamoring for the portable, easy-to-learn PC system.

    Fundamentally, the whole DoD procurement cycle had gone wrong - and
there lies a lesson for the present cyber-moment. The Pentagon is
fairly good at producing decent ships, tanks, and planes (never mind
the typical cost overruns, the gold-plating, and so on). After all, an
advanced ship or tank, even deployed a few years late, is normally
still an effective weapon. But a computer system a few years late?
That's a paperweight or a doorstop. That's your basic disaster. Hence
the push for the DoD to rely, whenever possible, on COTS, or
commercial-off-the-shelf, software and hardware.

    Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying it's only the Pentagon that has
trouble designing, acquiring, and fielding new computer systems. Think
of it as a problem of large, by-the-book bureaucracies. Just look at
the FBI's computer debacle attempting (for years) to install new
systems that failed disastrously, or for that matter the ever more
imperial Microsoft's struggles with Vista.

    Judging by my past experience with large-scale Air Force computer
projects, that $30 billion will turn out to be just the tip of the
cyber-war procurement iceberg and, while you're at it, call those
"five years" of development 10. Shackled to a multi-year procurement
cycle of great regulatory rigidity and complexity, the Air Force is
likely to struggle but fail to keep up with the far more flexible and
creative cyber world, which almost daily sees the fielding of new
machines and applications.

    Loving Big "Cyber" Brother

    Our military is the ultimate centralized, bureaucratic, hierarchical
organization. Its tolerance for errors and risky or "deviant" behavior
is low. Its culture is designed to foster obedience, loyalty,
regularity, and predictability, all usually necessary in handling
frantic life-or-death combat situations. It is difficult to imagine a
culture more antithetical to the world of computer developers,
programmers, and hackers.

    So expect a culture clash in militarized cyberspace - and more
taxpayers' money wasted - as the Internet and the civilian computing
world continue to outpace anything the DoD can muster. If, however,
the Air Force should somehow manage to defy the odds and succeed, the
future might be even scarier.

    After all, do we really want the military to dominate cyberspace?
Let's say we answer "yes" because we love our big "Above All" cyber
brother. Now, imagine you're Chinese or Indian or Russian. Would you
really cede total cyber dominance to the United States without a
fight? Not likely. You would simply launch - or intensify - your own
cyber war efforts.

    Interestingly, a few people have surmised that the Air Force's cyber
war plans are so outlandish they must be bluster - a sort of warning
shot to competitors not to dare risk a cyber attack on the U.S.,
because they'd then face cyber obliteration.

    Yet it's more likely that the Air Force is quite sincere in promoting
its $30 billion "mini-Manhattan" cyber-war project. It has its own
private reasons for attempting to expand into a new realm (and so
create new budget authority as well). After all, as a service, it's
been somewhat marginalized in the War on Terror. Today's Air Force is
in a flat spin, its new planes so expensive that relatively few can be
purchased, its pilots increasingly diverted to "fly" Predators and
Reapers - unmanned aerial vehicles - its top command eager to ward off
the threat of future irrelevancy.

    But even in cyberspace, irrelevancy may prove the name of the game.
Judging by the results of previous U.S. military-run computer
projects, future Air Force "cyber-craft" may prove more than a day
late and billions of dollars short.

    -------

    William J. Astore, a retired lieutenant colonel (USAF), has taught at
the Air Force Academy and the Naval Postgraduate School. He currently
teaches at the Pennsylvania College of Technology. A regular
contributor to Tomdispatch, he is the author of "Hindenburg: Icon of
German Militarism" (Potomac, 2005). His email is wastore at pct.edu.


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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Jun  7 11:29:01 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Re: [SC-SM] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Jun  7 12:04:14 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:04:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Red, white, blue and Green
Message-ID: <206258.27238.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just as some people may have signed up for the AIP because they think they are signing up as independent, I'm sure that there are folks out there who have us in a lump with GreenPeace and the international Greens, and assume we are one-worlders and vaguely unAmerican. How about we go to community Fourth of July celebrations with push registering people to vote for any party?
  Caroline
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Sat Jun  7 16:13:54 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:13:54 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  Red, white, blue and Green
Message-ID: <484B1632.2010206@freeshell.org>

Caroline,  Please fill me in about what you mean with,  "... and assume 
we are one-worlders and vaguely unAmerican."

Fred D.

Just as some people may have signed up for the AIP because they think 
they are signing up as independent, I'm sure that there are folks out 
there who have us in a lump with GreenPeace and the international 
Greens, and assume we are one-worlders and vaguely unAmerican. How about 
we go to community Fourth of July celebrations with push registering 
people to vote for any party?
Caroline
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Sat Jun  7 16:29:05 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:29:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]   Red, white, blue and Green
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Caroline,  Please fill me in about what you mean with,  "... and assume
we are one-worlders and vaguely unAmerican."

Fred D.

Just as some people may have signed up for the AIP because they think
they are signing up as independent, I'm sure that there are folks out
there who have us in a lump with GreenPeace and the international
Greens, and assume we are one-worlders and vaguely unAmerican. How about
we go to community Fourth of July celebrations with push registering
people to vote for any party?
Caroline

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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sat Jun  7 20:19:42 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:19:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Red, white, blue and Green
In-Reply-To: <206258.27238.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <206258.27238.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2321.38.99.84.36.1212895182.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Congrats to you Caroline on winning your County Councilor race. ;-)  That
ensures Sunnyvale will continue to be represented even though I'm off now.

Yes, we ARE going to be at the big 4th of July 'America Fest' or whatever
its called in downtown SJ, so your help with tabling would be very
welcome!


Green is Patriotic!

Drew

On Sat, June 7, 2008 12:04, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> Just as some people may have signed up for the AIP because they think they
> are signing up as independent, I'm sure that there are folks out there who
> have us in a lump with GreenPeace and the international Greens, and assume
> we are one-worlders and vaguely unAmerican. How about we go to community
> Fourth of July celebrations with push registering people to vote for any
> party?
>   Caroline
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun Jun  8 11:35:40 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:35:40 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NOTICE: Change in Monthly Meeting to Wednesday
	July 2nd
Message-ID: <c5b.333a6103.357d807c@aol.com>

(Since no one else has posted this information  yet)
 
At last Thursday's monthly GPSCC general membership (aka  business) meeting, 
there was consensus to experiment with holding the meeting on  the first 
Wednesday of the month instead of the first Thursday of the  month.  So the next 
meeting will be Wednesday, July 2nd, and we'll see if  any new people show up 
because of the schedule change.
 
Warner
 



**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Sun Jun  8 23:45:00 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:45:00 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NOTICE: Change in Monthly Meeting to
 WednesdayJuly 2nd
In-Reply-To: <c5b.333a6103.357d807c@aol.com>
References: <c5b.333a6103.357d807c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <484CD16C.2030705@aceweb.com>

The key to getting other people to come to the meeting is to invite 
them. Please mention the change to as many people as possible invite the 
ones that have a positive response to hearing the news.

Tian

WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
> (Since no one else has posted this information yet)
>  
> At last Thursday's monthly GPSCC general membership (aka business) 
> meeting, there was consensus to experiment with holding the meeting on 
> the first Wednesday of the month instead of the first Thursday of the 
> month.  So the next meeting will be Wednesday, July 2nd, and we'll see 
> if any new people show up because of the schedule change.
>  
> Warner
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler 
> Florence" on AOL Food 
> <http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002>.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest addition: pictures from my election night party Tuesday evening.
In case you were curious I came in 4th out of 10 running for 7 seats.
That got me elected by the Green Party voters to our County Council.


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon Jun  9 00:53:40 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 00:53:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: KPFA evening news reported our press release
Message-ID: <2134.38.99.84.36.1212998020.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] KPFA evening news reported our press release
From:    "Lisa Taylor" <lisa at losangelesgreens.org>
Date:    Fri, June 6, 2008 00:21
To:      gpca-mediawg at marla.cagreens.org
Cc:      "Susan King" <funking at mindspring.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I just listened to the archive of the KPFA evening news. It starts at
about 40 min. 18 seconds into the broadcast (drag the bar to forward
it ..once it has loaded completely you can see the time bar, so you
don't have to listen to the entire hour)

http://kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=26681

Great job everyone and good to hear Susan's voice!!

cheers,
Lisa


_______________________________________________
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GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org
http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon Jun  9 01:00:36 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 01:00:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] NOTICE: Change in Monthly Meeting to
 WednesdayJuly 2nd
In-Reply-To: <484CD16C.2030705@aceweb.com>
References: <c5b.333a6103.357d807c@aol.com> <484CD16C.2030705@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <2138.38.99.84.36.1212998436.squirrel@www.greens.org>

We need to restructure our General Meeting to be more interesting and
enjoyable AND populate and empower our committees so that detailed work
gets done on the Committees and we don't spend our time doing the detailed
work that committees should be doing.

Sorry, but until we restructure our General Meeting and avoid using it as
a 'Committee of the Whole' I'll continue to redirect people to join in the
Local meetings instead.  Boring and contentious business meetings are not
anything I want to subject any potential Greens to.


Green is Go!

Drew




On Sun, June 8, 2008 23:45, Tian Harter wrote:
> The key to getting other people to come to the meeting is to invite
> them. Please mention the change to as many people as possible invite the
> ones that have a positive response to hearing the news.
>
> Tian
>
> WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
>> (Since no one else has posted this information yet)
>>
>> At last Thursday's monthly GPSCC general membership (aka business)
>> meeting, there was consensus to experiment with holding the meeting on
>> the first Wednesday of the month instead of the first Thursday of the
>> month.  So the next meeting will be Wednesday, July 2nd, and we'll see
>> if any new people show up because of the schedule change.
>>
>> Warner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler
>> Florence" on AOL Food
>> <http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002>.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
> --
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest addition: pictures from my election night party Tuesday evening.
> In case you were curious I came in 4th out of 10 running for 7 seats.
> That got me elected by the Green Party voters to our County Council.
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon Jun  9 21:19:32 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: URGENT! We need to know ASAP if you're going
 to the Green National Convention in Chicago
Message-ID: <1936.38.99.84.36.1213071572.squirrel@www.greens.org>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Date:  Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:07:55 -0400
From:  "Lynne Serpe" <lynneserpe.nyc at gmail.com>
To:    attendconvention at gp.org
Subject: URGENT! Going to the Green National Convention in
Chicago - we need to know ASAP
Hello everyone,

If you have already registered for the Green Party 2008
National Convention, thank you very much! Knowing how many
people will be in Chicago is incredibly important for our
planning.

1)  If you have NOT registered and are *PLANNING* on
attending:

Please email attendconvention at gp.org by Wednesday, June 11
at 6pm EST with the words "Planning to attend GP Convention
- YOUR NAME, STATE" in the subject header.

2)  If you have NOT registered and are *THINKING* of
attending:

Please email attendconvention at gp.org  by Wednesday, June 11
at 6pm EST with the words "Thinking of attending GP
Convention - YOUR NAME, STATE" in the subject header.

THIS IS FOR A HEAD COUNT ONLY.

EMAILS WILL NOT BE OPENED, SO ANY QUESTIONS SENT WILL NOT
BE ANSWERED.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO GREENS IN YOUR
LOCAL/STATE WHO YOU THINK MIGHT BE ATTENDING.

THANK YOU

Lynne Serpe
On Behalf of ANMC
Annual National Meeting Committee




From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Jun 10 07:53:07 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:53:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Red, white, blue and Green
In-Reply-To: <484B1632.2010206@freeshell.org>
References: <484B1632.2010206@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <63914602-C309-4C8A-9A21-A684797CA4FE@cagreens.org>

We need people to volunteer for July 4th event?we have only a couple  
people, even after Thursday's meeting at the SJ Peace Center!
On Jun 7, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Fred Duperrault wrote:
> Caroline,  Please fill me in about what you mean with,  "... and  
> assume we are one-worlders and vaguely unAmerican."
>
> Fred D.
>
> Just as some people may have signed up for the AIP because they  
> think they are signing up as independent, I'm sure that there are  
> folks out there who have us in a lump with GreenPeace and the  
> international Greens, and assume we are one-worlders and vaguely  
> unAmerican. How about we go to community Fourth of July  
> celebrations with push registering people to vote for any party?
> Caroline
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss



From andid at cagreens.org  Tue Jun 10 08:03:23 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:03:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: KPFA evening news reported our press
	release
In-Reply-To: <2134.38.99.84.36.1212998020.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <2134.38.99.84.36.1212998020.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <333631A2-06A7-4E1C-BAC7-F6BB2BEFDAC5@cagreens.org>

Did everyone hear it from the professor's comments on Susan King's  
statement?  "...a galvanizing issue!"  Let's get busy and create one  
with sound bytes that bite!!!
Andi

On Jun 9, 2008, at 12:53 AM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> ---------------------------- Original Message  
> ----------------------------
> Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] KPFA evening news reported our press release
> From:    "Lisa Taylor" <lisa at losangelesgreens.org>
> Date:    Fri, June 6, 2008 00:21
> To:      gpca-mediawg at marla.cagreens.org
> Cc:      "Susan King" <funking at mindspring.com>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ----
>
> I just listened to the archive of the KPFA evening news. It starts at
> about 40 min. 18 seconds into the broadcast (drag the bar to forward
> it ..once it has loaded completely you can see the time bar, so you
> don't have to listen to the entire hour)
>
> http://kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=26681
>
> Great job everyone and good to hear Susan's voice!!
>
> cheers,
> Lisa
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GPCA-MediaWG mailing list
> GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 10:56:53 2008
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment (Greetings from DC)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23951.1212245962.24070.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <367277.58150.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I've just finished my first week interning in DC this summer. I saw this in the NYT, thought you might be interested.
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Kucinich-Impeachment.html
    Rep. Kucinich introduces Bush impeachment resolution  WASHINGTON (AP) -- Rep. Dennis Kucinich, a former Democratic presidential contender, said Monday he wants the House to consider a resolution to impeach President Bush.  Speaker Nancy Pelosi consistently has said impeachment was ''off the table.''
  Kucinich,  D-Ohio, read his proposed impeachment language in a floor speech. He  contended Bush deceived the nation and violated his oath of office in  leading the country into the Iraq war.
  Kucinich introduced a resolution last year to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney. That resolution was killed, but only after Republicans initially voted in favor of taking up the measure to force a debate.
  Kucinich  won 50 percent of the vote in a five-way House Democratic primary in  March, beating back critics who said he ignored business at home to  travel the country in his quest to be president.
  -Edward


Be consistent. Protect all life.

No violence. Period.

       
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue Jun 10 22:13:38 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:13:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The BAREC fight is not over...
Message-ID: <1244.38.99.84.36.1213161218.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Subject: [barec-update] The BAREC fight is not over...
Date: Monday, June 9, 2008 11:56 PM
From: "SaveBAREC" <info at savebarec.org>
To: barec-update at savebarec.org
Dear BAREC Supporters,

It has been a while since we have contacted you.  The CEQA (California
Environmental Quality Act) Lawsuit has been filed and is currently
scheduled to be heard in court on:

Date: July 14, 2008
Time: 9:00am
Location: 191 N. First Street, Courtroom 21, San Jose, CA

This is a time and place for people to attend and see what the court
will allow for this unique piece of land.  There are many issues with
the EIR (Environmental Impact Report) and this lawsuit is put forth to
show the City of Santa Clara approved a faulty EIR.

We all hope you will attend this important meeting.  There will be
other items leading up to this event, particularly if you live in San
Jose.

If you live in San Jose (any district) and want to know how you can
help, please contact me.  We are in need of residents in the City of
San Jose (not Santa Clara) to help with San Jose related tasks.
Please contact me ASAP if you can help.  We can use 15 minutes or a
couple of hours of your time.

Thank you for the continued support for this cause.  Do not give up
(we haven't).

Kind regards,

Kirk Vartan
Spokesperson, SaveBAREC.org
www.SaveBAREC.org

On a very interesting side note, I have attached a quick summary of
the Dervaes family in Pasadena, CA.  They have turned their urban home
into a sustainable living area.  The concepts and financially
sustainable methods employed here are what we have been suggesting for
BAREC, just on a much larger scale.  This family provides for many all
year round on 1/5 of an acre.  Please take a look at this YouTube
video when you can (it also has a link to their website):

http://www.youtube.com/user/dervaes
http://pathtofreedom.com/

Founded by Jules Dervaes (Dur-VAYS) in 2001, Path to Freedom is a
grassroots, family operated, viable urban homesteading project
established to promote a simpler and more fulfilling lifestyle and
reduce one family's "footprint" on the earth's dwindling resources.

Since the mid 1980s, all five members of the Dervaes family have
steadily worked at transforming their ordinary city lot in Pasadena,
California, into an organic permaculture garden supplying them with
food all year round. They also run a successful business, Dervaes
GardensRead More, providing salad greens to local restaurants. This
helps them fund their purchases of solar panels, energy efficient
appliances, and biodiesel processor to further decrease their
homestead's reliance on the earth?s non-renewable resources.



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Jun 10 23:23:27 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:23:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] McKinney Literature
Message-ID: <484F6F5F.1070501@aceweb.com>

I was looking for McKinney literature on her website, and I found a lot:

http://www.runcynthiarun.org/node/41

I'm wondering how to pick the ones we print. Any ideas?
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added 01SJ pictures and commentary from last Friday.
The radio said that the U.S. average gas price has reached $4.04/gal.


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed Jun 11 00:30:19 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: July 4
Message-ID: <1866.38.99.84.36.1213169419.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: July 4
From:    "Caroline Yacoub" <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Date:    Sat, June 7, 2008 21:33
To:      "Drew Johnson" <jamboi at greens.org>
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I need some details. Also, only San Jose?
  Caroline
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Jun 11 11:47:22 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:47:22 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] To Spray or Not to Spray
Message-ID: <48501DBA.3010803@aceweb.com>

 > Nan Wishner
 > To Spray or Not to Spray
 >
 >
 > The California Department of Food and Agriculture (CDFA) plan to use
 > aerial pesticide spraying in Bay Area counties to attempt to eradicate
 > the Light Brown Apple Moth has resulted in an outpouring of protest
 > regarding the state?s right to spray without the consent of those
 > affected and without assessing long-term adverse health and
 > environmental effects.
 >
 > Nan Wishner, Chair of the City of Albany?s Integrated Pest Management
 > Task Force and vocal opponent of the proposed spraying, will summarize
 > the issues, provide her perspective on a more healthy and effective
 > approach to addressing invasive species, and bring us up to date on
 > the latest actions from the CDFA and the groups trying to stop the
 > spraying.
 >
 > SPECIAL NOTE from Nan: There is a benefit screening of the political
 > documentary Weapons of Moth Destruction that is showing at the Roxie
 > in San Francisco on 6/12.  
 >

Nan Wishner began by pointing out that pesticides only began being used
after WWII. The people who had been making chemicals for use in the war
effort were looking for other ways to keep their factories going, and
pesticides turned out to be a  use for their products. As a member of
the Silent Spring generation, Nan knows how the unintended consequences
of such chemical warfare can get out of hand. She got involved with the
City of Albany Integrated Pest Management (IPM) Task Force when the city
proposed to start spraying Round Up on a plyaing field near her home.
She was already on Albany's IPM Task Force when the Light Brown Apple
Moth (LBAM) issue came up. At that time her mayor asked her to research
the subject, so Nan did.

The LBAM was first discovered in this area by a retired Berkeley
Entomologist. It's about a quarter of an inch long when grown, and
probably arrived in this country from Australia or New Zealand on
imported plant or fruit material. In 2007 George Gomez, an
Undersecretary in the Californian Department of Food and Agriculture
(CDFA) declared an emergency need to eradicate the LBAM. Aerial spraying
for the pest began in Monterey and Santa Cruz Countys that year.

Spraying is set to expand into Northern San Mateo, San Francisco,
Southeastern Marin, western Alameda, and Contra Costa Counties this
year. Spraying is done from airplanes flying at altitudes between 500
and 800 feet. The spray used last year was synthetic LBAM female
pheromones, and other or ?inert? ingredients many of which are toxic.
The spray used last year was dispersed in microscopic plastic capsules.
It is unknown what carrier will be used for the spray this year; the
state is investigating four products that use different carrier:
microcapsules, plastic flakes, and waxy ?goo.? .  The general
characteristics of the pesticide chosen for this year are expected to
be the same ? synthetic moth pheromone plus ?inert? ingredients which
are normally not disclosed by the manufacturer though the state has
said these ingredients will be disclosed for the LBAM program.

After the spraying people complained of adverse health effects. To date
643 people have complained of symptoms ranging from extreme asthma
attacks to skin rashes and a metallic tasting sore throat. There was
also a large die off of seabirds, and some pets have died. There is
concern that other problems could develop as the spray may bioaccumulate
its way up the food chain. For example, it is already known that
microcapsules, being the same size as pollen grains, could end up being
collected by bees.

STOPTHESPRAY.ORG was created to organize the victims and stop the
spraying from happening. Nan is asking everybody to visit
stopthespray.org and sign the petition. The website also has a lot of
information to help you get informed on the subject. In  particular,
many of the scientific papers and other factual information about the
spray can be found if you visit

http://www.eastbay.stopthespray.org/resourcesEB.htm

The campaign also needs many kinds of help, and links for that are also
at stopthespray.org. People who wish to donate tax free to the media and
education work of Stop the Spray East Bay can do so through:

Pesticide Watch Education  Fund,
1107 9th St., Suite 601,
Sacramento CA 95814.
(Note ?Stop the Spray East Bay media fund? on your check.)

During Q&A a number of interesting things came up:

Birds died perhaps because surfactants in the spray de-oiled their
feathers, causing drowning and/or hypothermia.

Organic certification is not affected by the spraying, but that's mostly
because the USDA, which supports the spraying, houses the National
Organics Program (NOP) is in charge of Organic certification.  This type
of pesticide, applied in this way, would not normally be used in organic
agriculture.

LBAMs eat the leaves of trees, and do not go after the fruit. They may
scar it sometimes, but nowhere near as bad as codling moths that
penetrate the fruit. Also, LBAM are delicious to spiders, birds and
other predators.

California wine grape growers use more pesticides on their grapes than
any other crop in the state.

They aren't scheduled to spray in Santa Clara County right now. They are
scheduled to put pheromone/pesticide goo on telephone poles and places
like that.  The ?goo? contains permethrin, an insecticide that is
carcinogenic, neurotoxic, and highly toxic to honeybees.

For more information, please visit StopTheSpray.org

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Jun 11 11:56:08 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:56:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] To Spray or Not to Spray
In-Reply-To: <48501DBA.3010803@aceweb.com>
References: <48501DBA.3010803@aceweb.com>
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Jun 11 17:16:11 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:16:11 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Meeting date and time: is 1st Wednesday okay with
	everybody?
Message-ID: <48506ACB.5050007@aceweb.com>

At the meeting we agreed to move the meeting  to July 2nd, and to 
discuss the idea of making that our permanent meeting date and time.

This email is the latest part of that. Please notice attached below
that I have checked with Catherine, and she has no problem with the idea.

Now I'm throwing the concept before those on this list. What do you think?

Tian

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: Is moving the Green Party meeting to 1st Wednesdays a problem?
Date: 	Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:48:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Catherine Curtis <cwcurtis1 at yahoo.com>
To: 	Tian Harter <tnharter at aceweb.com>



Hello Tian,

There is nothing penciled on the wall calendar for July 2nd, but I will
put you down if you like.
(And take you off for the third Thursday.) If the Green's want to switch
their meeting to the first
Wednesday of the month, just let me know before someone asks for the day
(after July). I'm the
chief cook, bottle washer and calendar keeper. No other appeals necessary.

Catherine


----- Original Message ----
From: Tian Harter <tnharter at aceweb.com>
To: cwcurtis1 at yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 12:46:18 AM
Subject: Is moving the Green Party meeting to 1st Wednesdays a problem?

Hello Catherine,

July 2nd was free on the calendar so we penciled the Green Party.
I hope that's okay. We're investigating the possiblity of keeping that
day. Who should we ask besides you and each other?
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org <http://tian.greens.org/>
Latest addition: pictures from my election night party Tuesday evening.
In case you were curious I came in 4th out of 10 running for 7 seats.
That got me elected by the Green Party voters to our County Council.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added 01SJ pictures and commentary from last Friday.
The radio said that the U.S. average gas price has reached $4.05/gal.


From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Jun 11 17:49:27 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:49:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: July 4
In-Reply-To: <1866.38.99.84.36.1213169419.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <1866.38.99.84.36.1213169419.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <48507297.5060207@aceweb.com>

I don't have all the details, but I think it's a three day festival on 
Discovery Meadow in San Jose. We need volunteers for all shifts. I 
volunteered to coordinate, so please tell me which slots you want on 
this email thread.

I think just staffing that one event will tax us to the limit, and have
a noticeable ripple effect.

Tian

Drew Johnson wrote:
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: July 4
> From:    "Caroline Yacoub" <carolineyacoub at att.net>
> Date:    Sat, June 7, 2008 21:33
> To:      "Drew Johnson" <jamboi at greens.org>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I need some details. Also, only San Jose?
>   Caroline
> 
> 
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added 01SJ pictures and commentary from last Friday.
The radio said that the U.S. average gas price has reached $4.05/gal.


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed Jun 11 18:53:53 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:53:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: FEC matching funds for Green Presidential
	Candidates
Message-ID: <2973.38.99.84.36.1213235633.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [usgp-media] FEC matching funds for Green Presidential Candidates
From:    "Green Party of the United States" <office at gp.org>
Date:    Tue, June 10, 2008 20:40
To:      usgp-media at lists.gp-us.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Act today for a Green Future

Dear Supporter:

We need YOUR help for our Green Presidential candidates to receive primary
matching funds from the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) in 2008.  In
order to receive primary matching funds, a candidate must raise a minimum
of $5,000 each from at least 20 states before the Green Party makes its
Presidential nomination on July 12.  Candidates raising the money needed
will be eligible to apply for $100,000 in Federal Matching Funds. This
money can be used to help the Green Party succeed in its Presidential
petition drives.

So far, donations from Greens all across the country have been vital in
getting us on the ballot in Arkansas, Arizona, and Hawaii!  Arizona was a
particularly difficult state; we needed 20,449 valid signatures to get on
the ballot.  With generous donations of money and volunteer time, the
Green Party of Arizona was able to collect 22,570 valid signatures!

Over the next two to three months, we have the chance to get our
Presidential nominee on the ballot in as many as 46 states.  Your
donations to our candidates will help us with challenging petition drives
in Connecticut (7,500 signatures), Idaho (5,984 signatures), Kansas (5,000
signatures), New York (15,000 signatures), Pennsylvania (24,666
signatures), and Virginia (10,000 signatures).

Every $1 that we can put into our petition drives gets us one signature
closer to getting on the ballot.  If everyone on the Green Line mailing
list gives as little as $5 to each candidate, all four candidates could
receive matching funds!   We could have as much as $400,000 to get on the
ballot and give the American people the chance to vote to bring all troops
home from Iraq, to fight global warming, and to provide health care for
all.  The sooner that our candidates raise the money needed the sooner
that they will get matching funds from the FEC, and the more time we will
have to run strong petition drives.  Read more about our Presidential
candidates and visit their websites to make a donation.

Meet our candidates:

Jesse Johnson is the co-chair of the Mountain Party of West Virginia,
which became affiliated with the Green Party of the United States at the
national meeting in Reading last July. He produced, directed, and acted in
many plays and films, and founded Talkback, Children Respond to Violence
in the Media, which uses the arts to teach inner-city elementary school
students how to combat violence. He was the Mountain Party's candidate for
Governor in 2004, and for U.S. Senate in 2006.  http://www.jesse08.org/

Cynthia McKinney was elected to the Georgia state legislature as a
Democrat in 1988, and to Congress in 1992. She was the first
African-American woman from Georgia in the U.S. House of Representatives,
serving in Congress from 1993 to 2003, and from 2005 to 2007. She filed
the first resolution to impeach Bush, Cheney and Rice; has pursued
meaningful answers on 9-11; has advocated for those displaced by our
government in the wake of Hurricane Katrina and for the millions of voters
disenfranchised in both the 2000 and 2004 elections. Last year, she left
the Democratic Party and registered as a Green.
http://www.runcynthiarun.org/

Kent Mesplay has been a registered Green in California since 1995, serving
as one of his state's delegates to the Green National Committee since
2004.  He has worked as a substitute teacher and an Air Quality Inspector
at the Air Pollution Control District, San Diego. He also served as the
president of Turtle Island Institute. In 2004, he ran in the Green
presidential primaries and caucuses,
and in 2006, in the Green primary for U.S. Senate. http://www.mesplay.org/

Kat Swift is a member of the Green Party of Texas, having served on her
state party's Executive Committee, and as co-spokesperson for the national
party's Women's Caucus.  She has served as a facilitator for the Green
Party and for several other organizations, groups, and coalitions,
including Clean Money San Antonio and SA Democracy Now. She currently
works as an accountant. In 2007, she became the first Green to run for the
City Council of San Antonio. http://www.voteswift.org/

The future of the Green Party is in your hands. If you want to see a
powerful and progressive Green Party for years to come, please act today.
We must be the change we want to see.

Become a Green Party Doner Today!
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed Jun 11 18:56:14 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:56:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Recent McKinney Statement and Press Release
Message-ID: <2977.38.99.84.36.1213235774.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Recent McKinney Statement and Press Release
From:    "Tim Smith" Rioryon at aol.com
Date:    Wed, June 11, 2008 13:10
To:      JamBoi at Greens.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>SNIP<

Can you forward the following message ... for me ?  Many thanks in advance..

>SNIP<

*********** Original Message ***********



Dear California Greens and CalForum Contributors,

    Recently, we've been hearing  more innuendo and insinuation from the
usual suspects and idle  rumor-mongers on this list just because Cynthia
McKinney doesn't mention in  every speech or statement that she is still a
candidate for the  Green Party's presidential nomination...
    It is doubtful that the nattering nabobs of negativity will be
satisfied with the following recent (5/31) statement and the press
release (dated 6/2)
from her campaign spokesperson John Judge, (see below) but i present them
if you need proof...
    For those of you who may have some lingering doubts, please have a
little faith and consider that Cynthia McKinney is clearly NOT a "trojan
horse", a "token" , an opportunist,  or a fence-sitter...

Peace/Unity

tim smith
_rioryon at aol.com_ (mailto:rioryon at aol.com)


********** Message #1 **********

(Distributed on May 31st)

>From Cynthia McKinney
STATEMENT ON HUNGER STRIKE TO OPPOSE U.S. STAR  WARS DEPLOYMENTS IN CZECH
REPUBLIC & POLAND

Dear Jan Tamas and Jan Bednar:

It is impossible for me to say strongly enough how important your  efforts
are in the Czech Republic to oppose deployment of U.S. so-called missile
defense bases.  Your leadership is being watched and is appreciated all
over the
world.

While in Congress I voted against every iteration of  so-called missile
defense--star wars--that was authorized or appropriated.   I want you to
know that I deeply understand the dangers that will come from a  decision
to accept the U.S. Star Wars radar in the Czech Republic and  interceptor
missiles in Poland.  There is no doubt that a new cold war is  underway
here that could once again bring Europe back into the middle of another
U.S.-Russia conflict.

Your hunger strike in Prague since May 13, and now  joined by others
including Bruce Gagnon in the U.S., is an important effort to  bring this
issue to the public consciousness.  The American people have  been
deceived at every turn by this Bush Administration and have yet to learn
of  the dangers and enormous cost of this new arms race we are creating.
Thank  you to you and to Bruce for your courageous and determined stand.

Let me assure you that as a candidate for the U.S. Green  party presidential
nomination (emphasis  added), and a former Member of the U.S. House of
Representatives, I very  well understand the importance of your citizen
action to demand a national  referendum in your country on this deployment
issue.  I also understand  your desire to prevent the U.S. from
establishing military bases in your country  after your long history of
occupation by Nazi Germany and the former Soviet  Union.  I am touched by
your desire for real democracy in your country and  agree that occupation
and democracy are not compatible.

Dr. Martin Luther  King, Jr. once remarked that the United States was the
greatest purveyor of  violence on the planet.  Sadly, that has not changed.
Please know  that as I campaign, I will share your stories with those I
meet as I cross our  nation.

Thank you all again for your demand for peace and  democracy.

Cynthia McKinney
Candidate for President of the United  States
Green Party
 (mailto:globalnet at mindspring.com)
*********** Message #2  ***********

(Distributed on June 2nd)

For immediate release
June 2, 2008

(emphasis added)

Contact:
John Judge  202-584-1021
press-secretary at runcynthiarun.org

Cynthia McKinney Takes Lead with Clear Majority of Delegates
As Green Party Heads to Chicago Presidential Nominating Convention

[Washington, DC] Recently released preliminary results show
that Cynthia McKinney has taken a clear lead in the  delegate
count for the upcoming Presidential Nominating Convention of  the
Green Party of the United States, scheduled for Chicago, from
July  10th - 13th. With the addition of the recent Florida and
New York mail  balloting results, McKinney now has an outright
majority of 267 of the 550  allocated delegates. With these
results, former Georgia Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney now
commands her first clear majority of  convention delegates
in the ongoing contested four-way race for a Green  Party
presidential nomination.

McKinney is  widely acknowledged, both inside and outside
the campaign, as a leading contender for the Green Party's
presidential nomination.  Campaign organizers point out that
nearly two-thirds of delegates have been  named and instructed
so far. There are 840 total possible delegates,  including 34
uncommitted delegates, and some states for which  allocation
is incomplete. McKinney's lead puts her ahead of all  other
announced and write-in candidates, including early returns for
Ralph Nader, who has announced he will run independent of the
Green Party.

However, her campaign is not taking anything for granted.  Campaign
supporters have taken the initiative to carry her message to the  public
in spite of inequitable access to the public airwaves and debates,  which
are being used to promote some candidates to the exclusion of others.
"Ms. McKinney may be heading into the convention with an  impressive
lead," said one campaign staffer, "but this contest is not yet  over, and
we're urging our supporters to engage with this campaign and  help us use
this opportunity to bring to the forefront issues no other  candidate in
this race is prepared to raise as effectively as Cynthia  does."

Cynthia McKinney has an impressive public record  serving two terms in the
Georgia Assembly and six terms in the U.S.  Congress. She is the only
genuinely anti-war candidate currently running for  President, and a
recognized and beloved spokesperson and leader for the  disfranchised
millions of women, African-Americans and other people of color  who too
often have been denied their right to vote or to have their votes  fairly
counted. McKinney has been traveling the United States as well as  abroad
and speaking to tens of thousands of people who feel they are not
represented by the existing political parties or leaders in office.  Her
campaign has built a broad coalition, greatly expanding on the  Green
Party's traditional base.

Congresswoman McKinney broke with the Democratic Party after a
newly elected majority in the House of Representatives failed to
end the war on Iraq or address the critical social, economic and
environmental crises faced by the nation. Even now her former
party's presidential candidates refuse to make concrete promises
to  end ongoing carnage in Iraq and Afghanistan, nor to address
the Bush-Pelosi saber-rattling against Iran. These are issues
that the Green Party has made a focus in their recent campaigns.

McKinney's campaign and candidacy have not gotten the press
coverage enjoyed by other emerging party candidates, such as
former Congressman Bob Barr, who this past weekend won  the
Libertarian Party nomination. Nor has she enjoyed the media
attention  focused on the independent Nader campaign. Even so,
her campaign is  attracting broad grassroots support from
citizens who have taken matters into their own hands to spread
her message, on YouTube and elsewhere. As one example, see:
http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Video/FocusedOnGloryOfBetterAmerica

Campaign organizers point out that the Green Party is expected
to be on nearly all  state ballots by November. With over
200 elected officials currently serving  at the local level,
the Green Party is the most successful emerging American
political party in nearly a century. The media, supporters
note,  particularly those using the public airwaves, have a
responsibility to fully  inform the American electorate of all
their choices in the upcoming  election.

McKinney emphasizes her long-term strategy of 'adding  a
chair to the table' for the disfranchised by winning a 5%
electoral count, qualifying her Party for public campaign
funds in future elections.  "Despite the limits and problems
relating to national elections, it will take  only 5% of the
Presidential vote in November to add a seat to the table  of
decision-making. This will open the door on the  long-closed
two-party system to some essential public scrutiny and  input,
and position the Green Party for the 2012 race," noted  Cynthia
McKinney. "Reclaiming our nation from the corporate war  makers
will be a long and arduous process. But it is work we cannot
afford to postpone. The Green Party has been tilling this soil
for nearly  twenty years now. And the stakes for people across
this country and around  the world are simply too high for us
to shrink from the challenge in this election cycle."

For more on Cynthia McKinney's campaign, and the
issues being raised, please see her campaign site at:
http://www.runcynthiarun.org
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From egroups at duendevision.com  Thu Jun 12 07:27:33 2008
From: egroups at duendevision.com (Duende)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:27:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The Great Turning
Message-ID: <0F2D7E5E-E996-4E33-97FA-787F0CC24577@duendevision.com>

A year and a half ago Gerry mentioned the web site  www.thegreatturning.net 
  . This is based on the book, The Great Turning. Have others here  
read this book? I'm just doing so now and find it to be one of the  
most eye opening pieces I've ever read on the human condition and how  
we got here. In the last decade or two I've been fighting the  
conditioning of empire and though I knew I had been brainwashed my  
whole life I wasn't aware how total this was and still blamed some of  
my aggressive tendencies on a character defect of some sort. Thins  
book has in a short time helped release the death grip I've had on  
beating myself up.

Even though I'm only on chapter 7 it's been an amazing journey so far  
and even more exciting for me it's the first time in tears (freudian  
slip for sure.. shoulda been years but I left it) I've felt reasonably  
optimistic about things getting better before total devastation makes  
us change.

He alludes to Riane Eislers work, the Chalice and the Blade, in  
describing the split we took about 5000 years ago when the male  
dominator model came to the fore and subjugated the feminine community  
based aspect of the human society. I saw this as a problem in modern  
times and once again thought  of the repression of the feminine as  
some macho character defect. Now I have a grace in understanding the  
why of it in others as well as my self. I find this quite healing.

Unless I've been totally duped by the powers that be, I honestly see  
Barak Obama as a communicator as opposed to a dominator.. at least he  
uses the language and most certainly shows less of the dominator  
model. Whether he's empires shill or not the future will tell  
(hopefully) but after reading his book and watching him, he most  
certainly i the best I've seen come from the main stream in a long  
time. He's not the fire brand I'd like to see and up to the Reverend  
Wright comments I was voting for Cynthia McKinney. When I heard what  
Wright said I figured a man who went to the good reverends church had  
to be worth looking into. (and then I read his book). The election's a  
way off and I haven't decided for sure where I'll put my vote, but I  
do know where I'll put my heart.

Peace

Duende





From mpye at perkinscoie.com  Tue Jun 10 14:03:18 2008
From: mpye at perkinscoie.com (Pye, Margaret  (Perkins Coie))
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:03:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SC-SM] FW: URGENT! We need to know ASAP if
	you're going to the Green National Convention in Chicago
In-Reply-To: <1936.38.99.84.36.1213071572.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <1936.38.99.84.36.1213071572.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <4A5EF228ABA1AA41BF85D7C990D8A931495E1D@sfosmail201.perkinscoie.root.loc>


I currently get duplicates of these emails, to both my home and work
email addresses.

Can someone please remove my work email from this list?
(mpye at perkinscoie.com)

I would like to remain on this list, but only through my home email
address (pyem at sonic.net).

Thanks!

--Margaret Pye


-----Original Message-----
From: sc-sm-bounces+mpye=perkinscoie.com at lists.sonic.net
[mailto:sc-sm-bounces+mpye=perkinscoie.com at lists.sonic.net] On Behalf Of
Drew Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:20 PM
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Cc: sc-sm at lists.sonic.net
Subject: [SC-SM] FW: URGENT! We need to know ASAP if you're going to the
Green National Convention in Chicago

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Date:  Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:07:55 -0400
From:  "Lynne Serpe" <lynneserpe.nyc at gmail.com>
To:    attendconvention at gp.org
Subject: URGENT! Going to the Green National Convention in
Chicago - we need to know ASAP
Hello everyone,

If you have already registered for the Green Party 2008
National Convention, thank you very much! Knowing how many
people will be in Chicago is incredibly important for our
planning.

1)  If you have NOT registered and are *PLANNING* on
attending:

Please email attendconvention at gp.org by Wednesday, June 11
at 6pm EST with the words "Planning to attend GP Convention
- YOUR NAME, STATE" in the subject header.

2)  If you have NOT registered and are *THINKING* of
attending:

Please email attendconvention at gp.org  by Wednesday, June 11
at 6pm EST with the words "Thinking of attending GP
Convention - YOUR NAME, STATE" in the subject header.

THIS IS FOR A HEAD COUNT ONLY.

EMAILS WILL NOT BE OPENED, SO ANY QUESTIONS SENT WILL NOT
BE ANSWERED.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO GREENS IN YOUR
LOCAL/STATE WHO YOU THINK MIGHT BE ATTENDING.

THANK YOU

Lynne Serpe
On Behalf of ANMC
Annual National Meeting Committee


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 12 13:51:22 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:51:22 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] July 4-th tabling
Message-ID: <48518C4A.4080102@sbcglobal.net>

There have been several queries re the dates for the 4-th of July
tabling at the America Festival in downtown San Jose.

The dates are Friday Saturday Sunday July 4 5 6
For the general announcement see the web site
http://www.americafestival.com/
For a map of the event area see the web site
http://www.americafestival.com/eventmap.html

Our booth will be in the crafts village and as you can see
there is very good light rail access.

The sponsors have yet to send me details on loading materials
and the specific booth number.



From mkmusic at greens.org  Fri Jun 13 01:02:57 2008
From: mkmusic at greens.org (Merriam Kathaleen)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:02:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Lofgren Impeachment Demonstration in support of
 Kucinich Fri. 6/13 3p - 6p
Message-ID: <485229B1.2050308@greens.org>

Hi All,

Kucinich presented 35 Articles of Impeachment against Bush on Mon. 6/9.  
On Friday 6/13 we tell Zoe Lofgren we demand that she support the 
Articles and start Impeachment Hearings immediately.

Join our voices and the honks to impeach.  This Friday is our 30th 
continuous week of demonstrating in front of Rep. Zoe Lofgren's office 
and we are not stopping until she supports Impeachment Hearings.

Please join us in front of Lofgren's office from 3:00pm - 6:00pm.  We 
want a large presence demanding she "*DO HER JOB*."  Zoe's office is at 
635 N. 1st St., San Jose. (Between Taylor & Jackson St. across from the 
IHOP restaurant/Light Rail stop is corner of Jackson St on 1st St.)  We 
want to be loud and proud for Impeachment hearings for Bush & Cheney. 

Be Zoe's conscience!!!! We are her constant reminder to hold Bush & 
Cheney accountable and uphold our Constitution by HOLDING IMPEACHMENT 
HEARINGS!!

You can use our signs or bring your own IMPEACHMENT sign. The cars 
driving by love seeing us. 

SEE YOU THERE.

Thanks,
Merriam
Silicon Valley Impeachment Coalition
mkmusic03 at aol.com
408-482-6032 (Cell)
svimpeach.org







From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 13 12:37:24 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:37:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling Juneteenth
Message-ID: <4852CC74.1050309@sbcglobal.net>

It turns out I will be able to table at the Juneteenth Festival
Saturday morning from 10 am until noon.

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 13 16:13:42 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:13:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling booth at Juneteenth
Message-ID: <4852FF26.80705@sbcglobal.net>

I have been told that the Green Party Booth at the Juneteenth
Festival is booth A in tent 10 in the circle of palms which is
between the Fairmont and the Museum of Art.

Tent 10,  Booth A

I plan to be there Saturday morning from 10 am until noon.

Jim Doyle



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Sat Jun 14 00:17:02 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:17:02 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling booth at Juneteenth
In-Reply-To: <48534EDE.8010802@alvco.com>
References: <4852FF26.80705@sbcglobal.net> <48534EDE.8010802@alvco.com>
Message-ID: <4853706E.4030306@aceweb.com>

Cesar Chavez Plaza. The Circle of Palms in in front of the modern art 
museum. I will try to be there around noon.

Tim Alvarado wrote:
> Where is the festival? Tim
> 
> Jim Doyle wrote:
>> I have been told that the Green Party Booth at the Juneteenth
>> Festival is booth A in tent 10 in the circle of palms which is
>> between the Fairmont and the Museum of Art.
>>
>> Tent 10,  Booth A
>>
>> I plan to be there Saturday morning from 10 am until noon.
>>
>> Jim Doyle
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>>
>>   
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added 01SJ pictures and commentary from last Friday.
The radio said that the U.S. average gas price has reached $4.05/gal.


From alvco at alvco.com  Fri Jun 13 21:53:50 2008
From: alvco at alvco.com (Tim Alvarado)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:53:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling booth at Juneteenth
In-Reply-To: <4852FF26.80705@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4852FF26.80705@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <48534EDE.8010802@alvco.com>

Where is the festival? Tim

Jim Doyle wrote:
> I have been told that the Green Party Booth at the Juneteenth
> Festival is booth A in tent 10 in the circle of palms which is
> between the Fairmont and the Museum of Art.
>
> Tent 10,  Booth A
>
> I plan to be there Saturday morning from 10 am until noon.
>
> Jim Doyle
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 15 13:48:45 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:48:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: [GPCA Official Notice] Apply for GPCA Member
	of GPUS NationalCommittee
Message-ID: <002101c8cf29$34f6fdf0$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP>


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "County Contacts" <contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org>
To: "County Contacts" <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:40 PM
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Apply for GPCA Member of GPUS 
NationalCommittee


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> or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. 
> Follow the contact directions
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Announcement/Open for application:
> Position of GPCA Delegation member (or alternate) to the Green Party of
> United States National Committee
>
> Election at August 23-24 GPCA General Assembly
> Applications due June 24th, 2007; send to applications at cagreens.org
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> ------------------------------
>
>
> Dear GPCA member,
>
> The Green Party of California is always looking for interested members to
> serve at the national level of the Green Party. We strongly encourage 
> those
> who self-identify as
> a minority, whether by gender, ethnicity, race, sexual orientation, or
> disability.
>
> Currently, the GPCA has been allocated 42 Delegate seats and 42 Alternate
> seats. and all delegation seats were filled at the April General  Assembly
> in Berkeley. It is expected that there will be eight open seats to be 
> filled
> to be filled at elections by the General Assembly at the GPCA Plenary in
> Orange County on August 23-24.  There are also 27 open seats for 
> alternates,
> though some current delegates will also run as alternate instead.
>
> The job description for these positions is at
> www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/job_gpus_delegation.php
> Some more information on delegate expectations can be found at
> http://www.cagreens.org/delegates/delegate_guidelines.shtml
>
> To apply, you must send your biography/applications in at least 60 days in
> advance of the August General Assembly, as is specified in our state party
> bylaws, and for possible inclusion in the plenary packet.
>
> An editable application (including space for an optional campaign 
> statement)
> can be found at
>  www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/application_gpus_delegation.rtf .
> Applications/bios will be posted at
> http://www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/applications_2008_02/gpus_delegation/<http://www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/applications_2007_02/gpus_delegation/>
>
> (Past applications are available for review linked from the delgation
> website)
>
> www.cagreens.org/delegates<http://www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/applications_2007/gpus_delegation>
>
>
> PLEASE SEND YOUR APPLICATION BY JUNE 24th TO applications at cagreens.org . 
> It
> will then go onto a website to be viewed by all.
>
> Because the GPUS delegation often makes its own recommendations to GPCA
> General Assembly delegates about who to choose as National Committee
> members, we in the GPUS delegation also want to know more about you.  So
> please send a copy of your application to one or both of the delegation
> co-chairs listed below. We also prefer those who have already been 
> involved
> on the state and/or county party level. (If you think we may not be
> familiar with your Green Party activity, please send a referral from a 
> state
> or
> county representative.)
>
> For more information about the GPCA's delegation to the GPUS, including a
> roster of current members, you can go to
> www.cagreens.org/delegates<http://www.votegreen.org/gpus-ca>
>
> Feel free to contact the Co-Chairs with your questions. We look forward 
> to
> hearing from you. Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sanda Everette - sanda at greens.org
> Greg Jan - gregjan4 at yahoo.com
> GPCA California Delegation to GPUS, Co-Chairs
>
> _______________________________________________
> Contacts2006 mailing list
> Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sun Jun 15 17:00:58 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:00:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw:[GPCA Official Notice] Apply for GPCA Member
 of GPUS National Committee
Message-ID: <1049.38.99.84.36.1213574458.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Warner and I serve on the Green National Committee as delegates, so if you
have any questions about what it is to be a GNC member or any of the
important GP-US committees please ask.  I find it very fulfilling work.


Green is Nationwide!

Drew

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Apply for GPCA Member of GPUS National
Committee
From:    "County Contacts" <contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org>
Date:    Sun, June 15, 2008 12:40
To:      "County Contacts" <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more information,
or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply.
 Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.









Announcement/Open for application:
Position of GPCA Delegation member (or alternate) to the Green Party of
United States National Committee

Election at August 23-24 GPCA General Assembly
Applications due June 24th, 2007; send to applications at cagreens.org

------------------------------


Dear GPCA member,

The Green Party of California is always looking for interested members to
serve at the national level of the Green Party. We strongly encourage those
who self-identify as
a minority, whether by gender, ethnicity, race, sexual orientation, or
disability.

Currently, the GPCA has been allocated 42 Delegate seats and 42 Alternate
seats. and all delegation seats were filled at the April General  Assembly
in Berkeley. It is expected that there will be eight open seats to be filled
to be filled at elections by the General Assembly at the GPCA Plenary in
Orange County on August 23-24.  There are also 27 open seats for alternates,
though some current delegates will also run as alternate instead.

The job description for these positions is at
www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/job_gpus_delegation.php
Some more information on delegate expectations can be found at
http://www.cagreens.org/delegates/delegate_guidelines.shtml

To apply, you must send your biography/applications in at least 60 days in
advance of the August General Assembly, as is specified in our state party
bylaws, and for possible inclusion in the plenary packet.

An editable application (including space for an optional campaign statement)
can be found at
  www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/application_gpus_delegation.rtf .
Applications/bios will be posted at
http://www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/applications_2008_02/gpus_delegation/<http://www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/applications_2007_02/gpus_delegation/>

(Past applications are available for review linked from the delgation
website)

www.cagreens.org/delegates<http://www.cagreens.org/cc/co-cos/applications_2007/gpus_delegation>


PLEASE SEND YOUR APPLICATION BY JUNE 24th TO applications at cagreens.org . It
will then go onto a website to be viewed by all.

Because the GPUS delegation often makes its own recommendations to GPCA
General Assembly delegates about who to choose as National Committee
members, we in the GPUS delegation also want to know more about you.  So
please send a copy of your application to one or both of the delegation
co-chairs listed below. We also prefer those who have already been involved
on the state and/or county party level. (If you think we may not be
familiar with your Green Party activity, please send a referral from a state
or
county representative.)

For more information about the GPCA's delegation to the GPUS, including a
roster of current members, you can go to
www.cagreens.org/delegates<http://www.votegreen.org/gpus-ca>

Feel free to contact the Co-Chairs with your questions. We look forward  to
hearing from you. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Sanda Everette - sanda at greens.org
Greg Jan - gregjan4 at yahoo.com
GPCA California Delegation to GPUS, Co-Chairs

_______________________________________________
Contacts2006 mailing list
Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org
http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006




From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Jun 17 13:36:43 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:36:43 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gay Pride Parade Pictures
Message-ID: <4858205B.7010603@aceweb.com>

Thanks to the Green Party activists for adding something
to the gay pride parade Sunday morning. See my pictures at:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/GayPride/2008/index.html

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added San Jose Gay Pride march pictures and commentary.


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 17 17:13:36 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:13:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council meeting
Message-ID: <48585330.4040206@sbcglobal.net>

Greetings,
It is time for the newly elected county council to come together.

We have an offer for a location, namely, from Andrea Dorey.
The location is near Wolfe Road and Homestead.

I suggest Sunday afternoon June 22-nd.
An alternative would be sunday afternoon June 29-th.

Let's hear your responses.

 From my standpoint the agenda would include
fundraising and outreach activities.

Jim Doyle



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed Jun 18 00:36:09 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:36:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cynthia McKinney Urges Mass Mobilization for
	Impeachment
Message-ID: <1202.38.99.84.36.1213774569.squirrel@www.greens.org>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <press-secretary at runcynthiarun.org>
Date: Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Subject: [rcr08-news] PrsRls: Cynthia McKinney Urges Mass Mobilization for
Impeachment
To: news at lists.runcynthiarun.org



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, June 16th, 2008

For further information, contact:
John Judge, 202-584-1021
press-secretary at runcynthiarun.org

McKinney Says People Must 'Flip the Script" Again
Urges Mass Mobilization Supporting Impeachment

In a prepared statement released today, six-term former
Georgia Congresswoman and candidate for the 2008 Green
Party Presidential Nomination urged the broad and diverse
Coalition forming around her campaign to "take any and all
steps necessary" to build support for action on H.Res. 1258,
the Kucinich resolution to impeach President George Bush.

Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, on Monday, June 9th, spent
five hours on the Floor of the U.S. House of Representatives,
reading thirty-five Articles of Impeachment laying out
the case that George Bush ought to be removed from office
for 'high crimes and misdemeanors'.  In her statement,
Ms. McKinney extends her appreciation to her former colleague
"for his courage and tenacity, for the comprehensiveness of
his research, and for the leadership he exhibited to press
forward the democratic demands of the People for accountability
and justice."  On the Ohio Congressman's motion, his Impeachment
Resolution was then referred to the House Committee on Judiciary
in a recorded 251-166 vote.

Ms. McKinney became the first Member of Congress to introduce
Articles of Impeachment against the Bush Administration,
naming Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State
Condoleeza Rice in charges which she introduced during the
109th Congress.  McKinney parted ways with the Democrat Party
partly for their failure to fulfill their Constitutional
responsibilities, when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi took
impeachment 'off the table'.

Ms. McKinney drew particular attention to the Kucinich
Resolution's charges related to 'Tampering with Free and Fair
Elections' (Article 28), 'Conspiracy to Violate the Voting
Rights Act of 1965' (Article 29) and 'Katrina: Failure to Plan
for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to
Respond to a Civil Emergency' (Article 31).  She called on
"the forces of the Black movement nationwide -- whether they
currently support my presidential bid or the candidacy of
Senator Obama -- along with all my Green and Reconstructionist
supporters, Katrina survivors and their supporters, the election
protection movement, and all progressive forces, to organize a
mass mobilization" to demand action from the House Judiciary
to hold hearings, build an evidentiary record and send this
resolution back to the Floor of the Congress for action.

"We have seen in this very election cycle how the mobilized
masses, with Black America as their indispensable animating
force, can 'flip the script' on the Powers That Be," wrote Ms.
McKinney, who stressed the timeliness of action pointing out
that the Administration's crimes are ongoing.  "The time is
now for us to do it again."

-- 30 --

McKinney's Call to Action on Impeachment
http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Impeachment/CallToAction
http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/Impeachment/CallToAction

Text of Kucinich Impeachment Resolution
http://www.runcynthiarun.org/Impeachment/HRes1258

Recorded vote on Kucinich Motion to Refer H. Res. 1258
to House Committee on Judiciary
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll401.xml

Text of McKinney Impeachment Resolution, 109th Congress
http://www.cynthiaforcongress.com/I_text14.pdf



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed Jun 18 00:57:43 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:57:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: UC Berkeley Oak Grove update - Vigil 6-17 and
 Court Decision 6-18
Message-ID: <1718.38.99.84.36.1213775863.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [G-C-F] Fwd: UC Berkeley Oak Grove update - Vigil 6-17 and Court
Decision 6-18
From:    "Linda Piera-Avila" <lindap_a at verizon.net>
Date:    Tue, June 17, 2008 22:12
To:      cal-forum at cagreens.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: BRUCE LAFFEY <blulite at flash.net>
Sent: Jun 17, 2008 8:22 PM

Breaking News:  Climbers in Oak Trees NOW To Remove
Tree-Sitters

Court Decision in UCB Oak Grove Expected Tomorrow June
18


At least five hired contract climbers are up in the
branches of the oak trees in the threatened oak
grove on UCB campus to take down tree-
sitters the day before the decisive court ruling is
expected.  Police are cordoning off the area with
barricades as oaks supporters are converging on
the site.  The climbers and a large contingent of
police arrived about 6:30 a.m.  The situation is
unfolding rapidly.

Supporters are needed there NOW. The grove is located
in the 2000 block of Piedmont Ave in Berkeley, one
block north of Bancroft Way.


 -----Original Message-----
From: BRUCE LAFFEY <blulite at flash.net>
Sent: Jun 16, 2008 5:41 PM

Barbara Miller, the judge in the Memorial Stadium
oak grove case, will announce her decision on
Wednesday, June 18. So, after all these months,
this is it! The "Save the Oaks" community asks that
everyone come join us outside the oak grove on
Tuesday night (June 17) for a joyous candlelight
vigil starting at 8 p.m. Bring a candle, a song to
share, and a musical instrument if you have one.

On Wednesday June 18, we will gather at the oak
grove beginning at sunrise to await the judge's
decision. Please tell your friends to stop by, even
for a short time. This may be our last chance to
save these beautiful, irreplaceable, giving trees-
including the spectacular 200-year-old
"Grandmother Oak," which was living here long
before the university was built.

One thing remains true: These precious living trees
are not standing in the way of the university's
ability to build a new gym. Other sites are
available that would be safer and more suitable.
It's time for the university to do the right thing and

choose one of these sites. Can we save these trees?
Yes we can!


Bay Area Coalition for Headwaters (BACH)

2530 San Pablo Ave.
Berkeley, CA  94702
phone: 510 548 3113
email: bach at headwaterspreserve.org
_______________________________________________
cal-forum mailing list
cal-forum at cagreens.org
http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/cal-forum




From alexcathy at aol.com  Wed Jun 18 09:31:06 2008
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:31:06 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 75th Anniversary of Federal Minimum Wage
Message-ID: <8CA9F77D7967ADC-E38-BFF@webmail-nc21.sysops.aol.com>













75th Anniversary of Federal Minimum Wage




















June 16, 1933 ? President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the National
Industrial Recovery Act (NRA) including the first federal minimum wage
? about 30 cents an hour. The
road to minimal wages and benefits for low-wage workers has always been
long and steep. To this day every proposal for minimal wages, living
wages, paid
sick days, or basic health and safety in the workplace is always
shouted down by whiny business interests as a "job killer" and
condemned as "class warfare."











As the distinguished journalist Bill Moyers recently put it:











"Truth is, there?s been a class war waged in America for thirty years
now from the top down, and the rich have won."














After 75 Years, the Working Poor Still Struggle for a Fair Wage


by Adam Cohen

The New York Times, June 17, 2008.








This week marks the 75th anniversary of the National Industrial
Recovery Act - which Roosevelt signed
June 16, 1933, at the end of his famous first 100 days - and of the
federal minimum wage. It was a grudging, almost accidental win, and the
road since then
has been rocky. Advocates for low-income workers have had a hard time
keeping the minimum wage at a reasonable level and passing other laws
necessary to
fulfill the original goal: ensuring that people who work hard can
achieve a reasonable standard of living.





When progressives set out to establish a national minimum wage, they
faced stiff opposition. Industry
insisted that government should not interfere with its relations with
its employees. Organized labor was also opposed. ("If you give them
something for
nothing," one labor leader objected, "they won?t join the union.") The
pro-business Supreme Court presented the biggest obstacle, ruling that
minimum
wages were unconstitutional.





The Depression provided an opening...








Last year, the new Democratic-controlled Congress raised the minimum wage
for the first time in 10 years to $7.25 an hour in 2009. A family earning the
2009 minimum wage in California would still be way below the poverty
line.











The Center for Community Economic Development has analysed the
cost-of-living by county for all the counties in California. The CFES Standard
is bare-bones and realistic. It is an accurate measurement of what it really
takes to make ends meet in today?s economy.












How
Much is Enough in Los Angeles County?











In Los Angeles, it takes $51,371/year for a single parent with two kids (one
pre-school, one school-age). That is $24.32/hour for a forty hour work week.











How Much is Enough in Santa Clara County?











In Santa Clara County (San Jose) in the San Francisco Bay Area, it takes $59,946/year for a single parent with two kids.





75 years and the struggle... 











Click to read More on:  

www.9to5california.org




















URL: 
http://9to5california.org/blog/75th-anniversary-of-federal-minimum-wage/








 

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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu Jun 19 07:18:53 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:18:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GP Presidential Candidates Debate THIS SAT ON WEB
	8p ET
Message-ID: <1201.38.99.84.36.1213885133.squirrel@www.greens.org>

WHEN: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:00 PM (ET), lasting approximately 90 minutes
WHERE: http://www.blogtlkradio.com/millerpolitics.

____

From: 	Miller Politics
Subject: Re: Green Party Presidential Candidates Debate

Three of the four candidates for the 2008 Green Party presidential
nomination will debate this Saturday online.

Cynthia McKinney, Kat Swift and Kent Mesplay will be taking part in the
debate hosted by Miller Politics.  The debate will air from
http://www.blogtlkradio.com/millerpolitics.

If you have a question can email it in advance to millerpolitics at gmail or
call in or use the webchat during the debate.

MORE:

Saturday, June 21, 2008, starting at 8:00 PM (ET), lasting approximately
90 minutes.  This will be the second Green Party presidential candidates
debate that I have moderated and the 12th over all presidential debate I
have moderated this campaign season, you can find the other debates by
going
HERE : http://www.millerpolitics.com/presidential-debates.html
.

The debate will air live from http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics.

>SNIP<

The debate will focus on the issues and there will be no strict time limit
to how long each candidate will have to respond to questions but it is asked
that the candidates keep answers as short as possible to allow for the most
issues to be covered.  There will be no opening statements but each
candidate will receive time at the end for closing comments.

The phone lines will be open for call in questions as well and questions
from listeners will also be able to be sent in via the BlogTalkRadio webchat
or in advanced by emailing questions to millerpolitics at gmail.com.

>SNIP<

**
Sincerely,
Ben Miller
Host, Miller Politics Radio





From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Jun 19 12:04:08 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:04:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Don't Start the Revolution Without Me!
Message-ID: <485AADA8.4090906@aceweb.com>

I just read this fascinating book by Governor Jesse Ventura. I put it on
my website because I included excerpts by taking pictures of the.

See it at:

http://tian.greens.org/Books/VenturaRevolution.html

The guy really gets it about the problems with business as usual in our
political system. If you want my copy of the book let me know where to
mail it. I'd be glad to pass it along...
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added my review of Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 19 14:43:24 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:43:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council meeting (2)
Message-ID: <485AD2FC.1020401@sbcglobal.net>

Greetings,
It is time for the newly elected county council to come together.

We have an offer for a location, namely, from Andrea Dorey.
The location is near Wolfe Road and Homestead.

I suggest Sunday afternoon June 22-nd.
An alternative would be sunday afternoon June 29-th.

Let's hear your responses.   (The first pass elicited 1 response.)

 From my standpoint the agenda would include
fundraising and outreach activities.

Jim Doyle



From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun 19 20:22:37 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:22:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council meeting (2)
In-Reply-To: <485AD2FC.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
References: <485AD2FC.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <17A20DF1-CAA8-4E68-9432-8A05A99F7316@cagreens.org>

Jim and All,
The 29th would be better; I have my first play for the new season  
with TheatreWorks.
Anytime on the 29th.
Andrea

On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Greetings,
> It is time for the newly elected county council to come together.
>
> We have an offer for a location, namely, from Andrea Dorey.
> The location is near Wolfe Road and Homestead.
>
> I suggest Sunday afternoon June 22-nd.
> An alternative would be sunday afternoon June 29-th.
>
> Let's hear your responses.   (The first pass elicited 1 response.)
>
>  From my standpoint the agenda would include
> fundraising and outreach activities.
>
> Jim Doyle
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Jun 19 22:15:28 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:15:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council meeting (2)
In-Reply-To: <17A20DF1-CAA8-4E68-9432-8A05A99F7316@cagreens.org>
References: <485AD2FC.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
	<17A20DF1-CAA8-4E68-9432-8A05A99F7316@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <485B3CF0.5050109@aceweb.com>

Sunday the 29th works for me. Afternoon is the best time. 3 PM?

Andrea Dorey wrote:
> Jim and All,
> The 29th would be better; I have my first play for the new season  
> with TheatreWorks.
> Anytime on the 29th.
> Andrea
> 
> On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> It is time for the newly elected county council to come together.
>>
>> We have an offer for a location, namely, from Andrea Dorey.
>> The location is near Wolfe Road and Homestead.
>>
>> I suggest Sunday afternoon June 22-nd.
>> An alternative would be sunday afternoon June 29-th.
>>
>> Let's hear your responses.   (The first pass elicited 1 response.)
>>
>>  From my standpoint the agenda would include
>> fundraising and outreach activities.
>>
>> Jim Doyle
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added my review of Don't Start the Revolution Without Me.


From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Jun 20 11:01:24 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:01:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council meeting (2)
In-Reply-To: <485B3CF0.5050109@aceweb.com>
References: <485AD2FC.1020401@sbcglobal.net>
	<17A20DF1-CAA8-4E68-9432-8A05A99F7316@cagreens.org>
	<485B3CF0.5050109@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <178759F3-83AF-4BDE-9634-B11855E95C0C@cagreens.org>

Sounds fine to me.
Andrea

On Jun 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> Sunday the 29th works for me. Afternoon is the best time. 3 PM?
>
> Andrea Dorey wrote:
>> Jim and All,
>> The 29th would be better; I have my first play for the new season
>> with TheatreWorks.
>> Anytime on the 29th.
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> It is time for the newly elected county council to come together.
>>>
>>> We have an offer for a location, namely, from Andrea Dorey.
>>> The location is near Wolfe Road and Homestead.
>>>
>>> I suggest Sunday afternoon June 22-nd.
>>> An alternative would be sunday afternoon June 29-th.
>>>
>>> Let's hear your responses.   (The first pass elicited 1 response.)
>>>
>>>  From my standpoint the agenda would include
>>> fundraising and outreach activities.
>>>
>>> Jim Doyle
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>
> --  
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: Added my review of Don't Start the Revolution  
> Without Me.
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
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>



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri Jun 20 11:36:49 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:36:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SC-SM] GP Presidential Candidates Debate
	THIS SAT ON WEB 8p ET
In-Reply-To: <1201.38.99.84.36.1213885133.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <1201.38.99.84.36.1213885133.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <2603.38.99.84.36.1213987009.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Update, the URL should be:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics.

It will be 5PM PT


Green is Connection!

Drew


On Thu, June 19, 2008 07:18, Drew Johnson wrote:
> WHEN: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:00 PM (ET), lasting approximately 90
> minutes
> WHERE: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics.
>
> ____
>
> From: 	Miller Politics
> Subject: Re: Green Party Presidential Candidates Debate
>
> Three of the four candidates for the 2008 Green Party presidential
> nomination will debate this Saturday online.
>
> Cynthia McKinney, Kat Swift and Kent Mesplay will be taking part in the
> debate hosted by Miller Politics.  The debate will air from
> http://www.blogtlkradio.com/millerpolitics.
>
> If you have a question can email it in advance to millerpolitics at gmail or
> call in or use the webchat during the debate.
>
> MORE:
>
> Saturday, June 21, 2008, starting at 8:00 PM (ET), lasting approximately
> 90 minutes.  This will be the second Green Party presidential candidates
> debate that I have moderated and the 12th over all presidential debate I
> have moderated this campaign season, you can find the other debates by
> going
> HERE : http://www.millerpolitics.com/presidential-debates.html
> .
>
> The debate will air live from http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics.
>
>>SNIP<
>
> The debate will focus on the issues and there will be no strict time limit
> to how long each candidate will have to respond to questions but it is
> asked
> that the candidates keep answers as short as possible to allow for the
> most
> issues to be covered.  There will be no opening statements but each
> candidate will receive time at the end for closing comments.
>
> The phone lines will be open for call in questions as well and questions
> from listeners will also be able to be sent in via the BlogTalkRadio
> webchat
> or in advanced by emailing questions to millerpolitics at gmail.com.
>
>>SNIP<
>
> **
> Sincerely,
> Ben Miller
> Host, Miller Politics Radio
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SC-SM mailing list
> SC-SM at lists.sonic.net
> http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/listinfo/sc-sm
>




From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Jun 21 09:40:27 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:40:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: wants you to take action on "Urge Congress
	to Permanently Protect the Arctic Refuge!"!
Message-ID: <193897.84127.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Do we use sites such as Petitionsite? It seems like a way to reach people other than Greens.

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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sun Jun 22 18:07:53 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:07:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SC-SM] GP Presidential Candidates Debate
 THIS SAT ON WEB 8p ET
In-Reply-To: <226192.57820.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <226192.57820.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2803.38.99.84.36.1214183273.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Yes Ma'am!  Just go to http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics and
you'll see it at the top of the list and when you click on it you'll find
something like 3 different ways to listen to it. :-)


Green is Spreading!

Drew


On Sun, June 22, 2008 09:58, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> Somehow I missed your note that it was 5:oopdt, so I missed the broadcast.
> Is there some way to see/hear/read any portion(s) of it?
>   Caroline
>
> Drew Johnson <JamBoi at Greens.org> wrote:
>   Update, the URL should be:
> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics.
>
> It will be 5PM PT
>
>
> Green is Connection!
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Thu, June 19, 2008 07:18, Drew Johnson wrote:
>> WHEN: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:00 PM (ET), lasting approximately 90
>> minutes
>> WHERE: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics.
>>
>> ____
>>
>> From: Miller Politics
>> Subject: Re: Green Party Presidential Candidates Debate
>>
>> Three of the four candidates for the 2008 Green Party presidential
>> nomination will debate this Saturday online.
>>
>> Cynthia McKinney, Kat Swift and Kent Mesplay will be taking part in the
>> debate hosted by Miller Politics. The debate will air from
>> http://www.blogtlkradio.com/millerpolitics.
>>
>> If you have a question can email it in advance to millerpolitics at gmail
>> or
>> call in or use the webchat during the debate.
>>
>> MORE:
>>
>> Saturday, June 21, 2008, starting at 8:00 PM (ET), lasting approximately
>> 90 minutes. This will be the second Green Party presidential candidates
>> debate that I have moderated and the 12th over all presidential debate I
>> have moderated this campaign season, you can find the other debates by
>> going
>> HERE : http://www.millerpolitics.com/presidential-debates.html
>> .
>>
>> The debate will air live from
>> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/millerpolitics.
>>
>>>SNIP<
>>
>> The debate will focus on the issues and there will be no strict time
>> limit
>> to how long each candidate will have to respond to questions but it is
>> asked
>> that the candidates keep answers as short as possible to allow for the
>> most
>> issues to be covered. There will be no opening statements but each
>> candidate will receive time at the end for closing comments.
>>
>> The phone lines will be open for call in questions as well and questions
>> from listeners will also be able to be sent in via the BlogTalkRadio
>> webchat
>> or in advanced by emailing questions to millerpolitics at gmail.com.
>>
>>>SNIP<
>>
>> **
>> Sincerely,
>> Ben Miller
>> Host, Miller Politics Radio
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SC-SM mailing list
>> SC-SM at lists.sonic.net
>> http://lists.sonic.net/mailman/listinfo/sc-sm
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>




From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Jun 23 16:17:03 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:17:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bicycle Music Festival in San Francisco Last
	Saturday
Message-ID: <48602EEF.406@aceweb.com>

This event was so organic it set new standards for organic entertainment
in my life. The music was provided by local musicians. They passed the
bucket for volunteer pay. The power to shake the speaker cones and
amplify the music came from the legs of volunteers pedaling the power 
generators that were extracycle bikes when they weren't doing that.
The vibe was great. I only wish my pictures captured more of it:

http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/BicycleMusicFestival/index.html

One of the neat things that happened was that the event was the kickoff
of distribution of the San Francisco Green Map, a great resource for
comprehending the scope and depth of the green movement in SF and to
some extent the surrounding area. The woman gave me a few extra copies 
to spread around. If you want one let me know...
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added Bicycle Music Festival pictures and commentary.


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 23 17:31:25 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:31:25 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jul 4-th booth
Message-ID: <4860405D.4000601@sbcglobal.net>

Our booth assignment has arrived:

Congratulations you have been accepted into the
  America Festival July 4-6th.

Load in packets will go out in the mail by end of week.

Space   Vendor Name
A-011   Green Party of Santa Clara Party

And just for general interest, here are a few others:
A-022   ACLU
A-015   Fluting From The Heart
A-002   Republican Party of SCC
A-030   Santa Clara County Democrats
A-017   United For Peace & Justice



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Jun 23 17:56:15 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:56:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jul 4-th booth
In-Reply-To: <4860405D.4000601@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4860405D.4000601@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4860462F.30402@aceweb.com>

We still need lots of volunteers to staff that booth between 10 AM and 8 
PM or so on all three days of the festival. Please sign up!

Jim Doyle wrote:
> Our booth assignment has arrived:
> 
> Congratulations you have been accepted into the
>   America Festival July 4-6th.
> 
> Load in packets will go out in the mail by end of week.
> 
> Space   Vendor Name
> A-011   Green Party of Santa Clara Party
> 
> And just for general interest, here are a few others:
> A-022   ACLU
> A-015   Fluting From The Heart
> A-002   Republican Party of SCC
> A-030   Santa Clara County Democrats
> A-017   United For Peace & Justice
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added Bicycle Music Festival pictures and commentary.


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 23 18:53:46 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:53:46 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items
Message-ID: <486053AA.9090108@sbcglobal.net>

This is a call for suggested agenda items for the
Wednesday July 2-nd general meeting at the peace center.

Certainly we will have to fill in the schedule for the July 4-th weekend
so be ready to volunteer to man our booth, A011, for a few hours
that weekend.




From mkmusic at greens.org  Tue Jun 24 00:24:45 2008
From: mkmusic at greens.org (Merriam Kathaleen)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:24:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment resolution proposal to be presented
 to Mt. View City Council Today, Tues. 6/24 7pm
Message-ID: <4860A13D.3070705@greens.org>

Hi All,

This Tuesday, 6/24, Mt. View Residents of Silicon Valley Impeachment 
Coalition will be presenting a proposal to the Mt. View City Council 
urging them to pass a resolution demanding that Congress begin 
Impeachment Hearings.

We need people there to support this proposal.  Please join us if you 
can.  Please pass this on to to everybody you think would be interested 
in supporting us.

The City Council meeting is at 7:00pm and located at City Hall, 500 
Castro St.  The Council Chambers are on the 2nd floor.

Thanks,
Merriam
Silicon Valley Impeachment Coalition
svimpeach.org



From alvco at alvco.com  Mon Jun 23 19:39:34 2008
From: alvco at alvco.com (Tim Alvarado)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:39:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jul 4-th booth
In-Reply-To: <4860462F.30402@aceweb.com>
References: <4860405D.4000601@sbcglobal.net> <4860462F.30402@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <48605E66.3060303@alvco.com>

Hi Tian- You know I want to be there, but may have to work out of town 
that week, have no choice, need to take anything I can get right now. Tim

Tian Harter wrote:
> We still need lots of volunteers to staff that booth between 10 AM and 8 
> PM or so on all three days of the festival. Please sign up!
>
> Jim Doyle wrote:
>   
>> Our booth assignment has arrived:
>>
>> Congratulations you have been accepted into the
>>   America Festival July 4-6th.
>>
>> Load in packets will go out in the mail by end of week.
>>
>> Space   Vendor Name
>> A-011   Green Party of Santa Clara Party
>>
>> And just for general interest, here are a few others:
>> A-022   ACLU
>> A-015   Fluting From The Heart
>> A-002   Republican Party of SCC
>> A-030   Santa Clara County Democrats
>> A-017   United For Peace & Justice
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>>     
>
>   


From justvegan at mac.com  Tue Jun 24 11:52:22 2008
From: justvegan at mac.com (justvegan at mac.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:52:22 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bicycle Music Festival in San Francisco
	Last	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <48602EEF.406@aceweb.com>
References: <48602EEF.406@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <8B4B9661-B92B-4507-951D-5516D86CE065@mac.com>

Hey Tian,

Thank you so much for covering this awesome event!!! I only wish I had  
had the chance to be there too. I will most certainly be there, as  
Randy, on my bike next time around.

Bye for now,

Randy "W" Sandberg
www.ENDinjusticeNOW.com


On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:17 PM, tian harter wrote:

> This event was so organic it set new standards for organic  
> entertainment
> in my life. The music was provided by local musicians. They passed the
> bucket for volunteer pay. The power to shake the speaker cones and
> amplify the music came from the legs of volunteers pedaling the power
> generators that were extracycle bikes when they weren't doing that.
> The vibe was great. I only wish my pictures captured more of it:
>
> http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/BicycleMusicFestival/index.html
>
> One of the neat things that happened was that the event was the  
> kickoff
> of distribution of the San Francisco Green Map, a great resource for
> comprehending the scope and depth of the green movement in SF and to
> some extent the surrounding area. The woman gave me a few extra copies
> to spread around. If you want one let me know...
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: Added Bicycle Music Festival pictures and commentary.
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue Jun 24 16:26:46 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jul 4-th booth
In-Reply-To: <4860405D.4000601@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4860405D.4000601@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1080.38.99.84.36.1214350006.squirrel@www.greens.org>

What's the booth space number of the SJ Peace and Justice Center?


Green is Connection!

Drew

On Mon, June 23, 2008 17:31, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Our booth assignment has arrived:
>
> Congratulations you have been accepted into the
>   America Festival July 4-6th.
>
> Load in packets will go out in the mail by end of week.
>
> Space   Vendor Name
> A-011   Green Party of Santa Clara Party
>
> And just for general interest, here are a few others:
> A-022   ACLU
> A-015   Fluting From The Heart
> A-002   Republican Party of SCC
> A-030   Santa Clara County Democrats
> A-017   United For Peace & Justice
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue Jun 24 16:29:50 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:29:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <486053AA.9090108@sbcglobal.net>
References: <486053AA.9090108@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1028.38.99.84.36.1214350190.squirrel@www.greens.org>

eh, maybe 'person' or 'humyn' the booth. :-)


Green is Feminist / Post-Patriarchal!

Drew


On Mon, June 23, 2008 18:53, Jim Doyle wrote:
> This is a call for suggested agenda items for the
> Wednesday July 2-nd general meeting at the peace center.
>
> Certainly we will have to fill in the schedule for the July 4-th weekend
> so be ready to volunteer to man our booth, A011, for a few hours
> that weekend.




From justvegan at mac.com  Tue Jun 24 16:34:33 2008
From: justvegan at mac.com (justvegan at mac.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:34:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <1028.38.99.84.36.1214350190.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <486053AA.9090108@sbcglobal.net>
	<1028.38.99.84.36.1214350190.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <EA2CA90E-972C-4F47-9856-BB16014CD2C0@mac.com>


Good call Drew!


On Jun 24, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:

> eh, maybe 'person' or 'humyn' the booth. :-)
>
>
> Green is Feminist / Post-Patriarchal!
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Mon, June 23, 2008 18:53, Jim Doyle wrote:
>> This is a call for suggested agenda items for the
>> Wednesday July 2-nd general meeting at the peace center.
>>
>> Certainly we will have to fill in the schedule for the July 4-th  
>> weekend
>> so be ready to volunteer to man our booth, A011, for a few hours
>> that weekend.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 24 16:40:48 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:40:48 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] July 2 agenda
Message-ID: <48618600.10001@sbcglobal.net>

Please submit your agenda items early.

Come prepared to volunteer for a time slot in the weekend tabling.
Putting that schedule together will be one item.

There is a chance that we can use all the hands present for a mailing
party of a fundraising letter that is being prepared.

Any other suggestions?

Jim Doyle



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 24 22:13:54 2008
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:13:54 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Hanson on Global Warming
Message-ID: <4861D412.3050408@earthlink.net>


"Twenty Years Later: Tipping Points Near on Global Warming"

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/24/9850/

Gerry



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed Jun 25 08:32:32 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:32:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Telecom Donations Tied to FISA Vote (Washington
	Independent)
Message-ID: <2716.38.99.84.36.1214407952.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Guess who takes telecom corporate money hand over fist?  Anna Eshoo. 
That's how she had $1 MILLION TO SPEND ON EACH OF HER LAST TWO CAMPAIGNS
Support our Green candidates Carol Brouillet, Peter Meyers and Barry
Hermanson for congress! Also independent Cindy Sheehan was endorsed by the
SF Green Party!


Green is Grassroots Democracy!

Drew


Telecom Donations Tied to FISA Vote
Tuesday 24 June 2008
http://www.truthout.org/article/telecom-donations-tied-fisa-vote
by: Mike Lillis, The Washington Independent


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California) was one of the 94 out of 105
Democrats voting for a FISA bill granting telecoms retroactive immunity. A
new study by Maplight.org, a nonprofit campaign finance watchdog group,
found that lawmakers who voted in support of the wiretap deal averaged
roughly twice the donations from the nation's leading telecoms over the
last three years as those who voted against it.
(Photo: Lauren Victoria Burke / AP)
Supporters of the spying bill received twice the contributions as those
against it.
    When scores of House Democrats joined Republicans last week to
reauthorize a controversial White House spying program, many critics
attributed that support to election-year jitters. But as liberal
voters continue to bash Democrats on the issue, some campaign finance
reformers charge that political contributions from the telecom
industry, which benefited handsomely under the bill, probably also
swayed votes.

    In an analysis released Tuesday, Maplight.org, a nonprofit campaign
finance watchdog group, found that lawmakers voting Friday in support
of the wiretap deal averaged roughly twice the donations from the
nation's leading telecoms - Verizon, Sprint and AT&T - over the last
three years as those voting against it.

    The figures might not have raised eyebrows except that the proposal
contained a gift for the industry, effectively granting retroactive
legal immunity to the telecoms that enabled the Bush administration's
warrantless eavesdropping program. The immunity provision - blasted by
civil libertarians for putting industry concerns above Fourth
Amendment rights against search and seizure - rescues the companies
from the roughly 40 lawsuits pending against them. Some
money-in-politics watchdogs say the connection between the
contributions and votes is no accident.

    The money-in-politics debate is hardly new to Washington, but it has
taken on greater urgency as both political contributions and federal
budgets grow larger with each passing year. Under the current system,
lawmakers have become ever more reliant on campaign coffers to
maintain their hold on power. Industry, meanwhile, is under constant
pressure to be at the negotiation table when related legislation is
being crafted on Capitol Hill. Money is often the quickest way to gain
that seat. This combination of factors has created a near symbiotic
relationship between Congress and industry, often lending a sense that
business interests take priority over citizens' concerns.

    "It's not a dollar given and a vote bought," said Meredith McGehee,
policy director at the Campaign Legal Center, a nonprofit campaign
finance reform advocate, "but it is a system where large industries
can gain influence and direct how policy is decided."

    The shame, McGehee said, is that the campaign-finance system leads to
conflict-of-interest questions even when none exist. "That undermines
confidence in the legislative process," she stated.

    Mary Boyle, a spokeswoman with Common Cause, echoed the message. "We
certainly know that contributions go a long way to gaining access and
influence," she said. "The appearance is that money buys votes."

    Maplight's analysis, crunched using contribution data from the Center
for Responsive Politics, found that the 293 House members voting last
week in favor of the wiretapping compromise received, on average, more
than double the amount of money as those who voted against it. They
got $9,659 from Verizon, AT&T and Sprint between January 2005 and
March 2008, while those voting against got $4,810.

    But some campaign finance experts warned against linking campaign
donations to votes. "It's way too simplistic just to look at money
given to a candidate and claim it's affected a particular vote," said
Richard L. Hasen, an election specialist at Loyola Law School in Los
Angeles. "It's something that's often alleged, but much harder to
prove."

    "There does seem to be a correlation between telecom money and the way
people voted," Massie Ritsch, spokesman for the Center for Responsive
Politics, said in an email, "but as in all cases when you're following
the money, causation is nearly impossible to establish."

    Indeed, in the case of the spying proposal, 94 of the 105 Democrats
voting for the bill had supported an earlier House proposal to renew
the spying law without granting retroactive immunity to the telecoms.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cal.), one of those 94, made clear that
she opposed telecom immunity, but was forced to accept a compromise
for the sake of passing a bill. The immunity language was a concession
to the White House, which threatened to veto any bill without it.

    "I do not believe that Congress should be in the business of
interfering with ongoing lawsuits and attempting to grant immunity to
telecommunications companies that allegedly violated the law," Pelosi
said on the chamber floor last week. "Those companies have not lived
up to the standards expected by the American people ... They come out
of this with a taint."

    In return, Democrats included language previously opposed by the
administration, including a clarification that the president has no
authority outside the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to
collect foreign-to-domestic communications, even in times of war.

    The Senate is expected to pass the bill on Wednesday.

    Not all Democrats felt the compromise language was worth the sacrifice
of civil liberties.

    "I have consistently said that it is not appropriate for Congress to
grant these companies immunity for their actions without having an
understanding of what it is that they did," said Rep. John Dingell
(D-Mich.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. "This
is not only because it will hold the telecommunications companies
accountable for their actions, but because it is the only way of
finding out just how extensive the president's illegal wiretapping
program really was."

    Liberal voters have lit up the blogosphere in agreement, charging that
Democrats caved to White House demands at the expense of
constitutional rights. Some civil liberties advocates also placed
blame on the congressional leaders.

    "This is all part of the abuse of power that we've seen out of this
White House, as well as Congress' refusal to stand up and perform its
constitutional duty to check the executive branch," said Boyle of
Common Cause. "Congress is complicit here."
?


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Not a surprise at all but,
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:58 - Anonymous (not verified)
Not a surprise at all but, disgraceful nevertheless. It is patently
obvious that most of the Democratic party is *also* in the pocket of big
biz. However, at this point and time one would have hoped that a
micro-gram of morality and ethics would still be driving those whom we
entrusted with the protection of our Constitution and our rights.
Obviously, that is not their driving force.
i have given money to cindy
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:56 - Anonymous (not verified)
i have given money to cindy sheehan and i would ask everyone who is beyond
disgusted with pelosi and these spineless sycophants to give what they
can. how else do we send a message? they don't care about our calls,
faxes, protests. only a campaign of removal from office will speak to
them.
It is absolutely disgusting
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:04 - EDGEOFNOWHERE (not verified)
It is absolutely disgusting that our elected representatives should be
allowed to take ANY money from ANYindustry/lobby. We should have taxpayer
financed elections with personal contributions limited to $100/year per
candidate. The practice of corporate money has totally corrupted the
government and is destroying our nation. Obama's recent defection from the
public money campaign limits should be ringing alarm bells with anyone who
thinks he will be any different from the present gang of cash whores in
DC. VOTE THIRD PARTY!!
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Jun 25 15:23:31 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:23:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Retail Politics
Message-ID: <4862C563.6060407@charter.net>

I think that we, as an organization, have to learn more about retail 
politics.  What little I know, I got from listening to Pete McCloskey. 
Pete was recently back where he started, in Pacifica, talking to the 
local Democrats... now that he is one of them.

One of the people who attended the session made a very detailed report 
on their blog.  I think it would be good reading for all.

http://ohomen171.blogspot.com/2008/06/former-congressman-pete-mccloskey-more.html

There are several importing lessons here.

One is a matter of scale... cost per vote.. what it took to put 1500 
volunteers on the street on election day.

Another is the fact way that and "audobon society matron" was able to 
tie what she did (writing newsletters) directly to voting behavior.

Then, there is just the manner in which McCloskey continues to warn 
Democrats about the love of power and it's path to corruption.

As we look forward to elections, both in November and in the years to 
come, we had need to learn to play this game.

Wes

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Thu Jun 26 09:29:59 2008
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:29:59 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green PAC?
Message-ID: <026301c8d7a9$fda54210$6401a8c0@INTERBIKE06>

Hi Folks,

I'm thinking of starting a Green PAC in Milpitas that "supports
candidates who support Green Party values."  

Here in Milpitas, the existing three-member majority (which has not been
very "green") is about to consolidate their control of City government
in November's election.  Although the Council majority has angered
people with recent actions, folks have not yet self-organized to combat
this political juggernaut.  Only one candidate has come forward to
challenge the Council majority candidates.  I think other candidates may
come forward if substantial funding ($20,000 to $50,000) were available
to support their campaigns.  The PAC could be a way to fund such an
opposition campaign.  In addition to collecting money from unhappy
residents, contributions would be request from developers and other
special interest groups.

What do you think?

Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters
408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
 




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu Jun 26 11:05:04 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green PAC?
In-Reply-To: <026301c8d7a9$fda54210$6401a8c0@INTERBIKE06>
References: <026301c8d7a9$fda54210$6401a8c0@INTERBIKE06>
Message-ID: <2790.38.99.84.36.1214503504.squirrel@www.greens.org>

I think its an idea that's long overdue.  I'd make it at LEAST Santa Clara
Co though.


Green is Connection!

Drew

On Thu, June 26, 2008 09:29, Rob Means wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm thinking of starting a Green PAC in Milpitas that "supports
> candidates who support Green Party values."
>
> Here in Milpitas, the existing three-member majority (which has not been
> very "green") is about to consolidate their control of City government
> in November's election.  Although the Council majority has angered
> people with recent actions, folks have not yet self-organized to combat
> this political juggernaut.  Only one candidate has come forward to
> challenge the Council majority candidates.  I think other candidates may
> come forward if substantial funding ($20,000 to $50,000) were available
> to support their campaigns.  The PAC could be a way to fund such an
> opposition campaign.  In addition to collecting money from unhappy
> residents, contributions would be request from developers and other
> special interest groups.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters
> 408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
> 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
> Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN!
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 26 12:26:03 2008
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:26:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green PAC?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1214506828.14464.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <678435.32951.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

There's a national version of this called Green Change. Their website is www.greenchange.org



They are not a PAC but a 527.



My only concern is that this sounds like it would undermine our committment to no corporate etc. funding.



-Edward



------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green PAC?
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Message-ID: <2790.38.99.84.36.1214503504.squirrel at www.greens.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I think its an idea that's long overdue.  I'd make it at LEAST Santa
Clara
Co though.


Green is Connection!

Drew

On Thu, June 26, 2008 09:29, Rob Means wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm thinking of starting a Green PAC in Milpitas that "supports
> candidates who support Green Party values."
>
> Here in Milpitas, the existing three-member majority (which has not been
> very "green") is about to consolidate their control of City
government
> in November's election.  Although the Council majority has angered
> people with recent actions, folks have not yet self-organized to combat
> this political juggernaut.  Only one candidate has come forward to
> challenge the Council majority candidates.  I think other candidates may
> come forward if substantial funding ($20,000 to $50,000) were available
> to support their campaigns.  The PAC could be a way to fund such an
> opposition campaign.  In addition to collecting money from unhappy
> residents, contributions would be request from developers and other
> special interest groups.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters
> 408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
> 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913



      
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From cbrouillet at igc.org  Thu Jun 26 12:42:55 2008
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:42:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green PAC?
In-Reply-To: <678435.32951.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.23.1214506828.14464.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
	<678435.32951.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1KBxMl-0005cu-45@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

At 12:26 PM 6/26/2008, you wrote:
>There's a national version of this called Green Change. Their 
>website is www.greenchange.org


I will be doing a radio show 
http://questioningwar-organizingresistance.blogspot.com/ on Monday 
night, June 30th, on Movement Building which will include the 
Executive Director of GreenChange.org  -  Marnie Glickman:


Marnie Glickman is the Executive Director of 
<http://www.greenchange.org/>GreenChange.org is an experienced Green 
organizer. She is also an attorney. She worked for Commercial Alert, 
a non-profit organization dedicated to protecting communities from 
commercialism from 2003 to 2007. In 2003-4, she served as the 
co-chair of the Green Party of the United States. Marnie has worked 
on the campaigns of Joe Keating for Governor (OR, 2006), 
Cobb-LaMarche presidential campaign (2004), Ralph Nader for President 
(2000), Carl Mayer for Congress (NJ, 2000), Nita Lowey for Congress 
(NY, 1998), Tom Bruggere for US Senate (OR, 1996), Darlene Hooley for 
Congress (OR, 1997), Nancy Kaszak for Congress (IL, 1995-6), Eliabeth 
Furse for Congress (OR, 1994-5), Clinton-Gore (1992) and Tom Harkin 
for President (1992). In 1998, she was the deputy director for major 
gifts and a trainer at EMILY's List. Her first job in politics was 
working for Senator Paul Wellstone (DC and MN, 1991). Marnie lives in 
Fairfax, California with her husband, Gary Ruskin, and two year old 
daughter, Calliope.

Green Change strives to be a community of people with Green values: 
justice, democracy, sustainability and non-violence who work together 
to share Green art, politics and culture. People within the community 
have many different skills and talents. Some can write, or draw, or 
paint. Others take photographs, register voters, or do street 
theater. They encourage people to use their talents to make the world 
a better place. Anyone with Green values is welcome to join.

Green Change provides tools for sharing and expressing Green 
knowledge and inspiration. They help Green writers, musicians and 
artists spread the word about their work. They help people come 
together to take Green political action. They provide information and 
articles for people who want to learn more about what it is to be 
Green, live Green and act Green. The website says:

"We make it easier to meet others like you, so that together you can 
build new Green communities, and help one another.
"We believe there is power in working together. We have built the 
Green Change website to help people to create together, to solve 
problems, and to build a culture based on Green values.
"We believe there are a million ways (or more) to advance Green art 
and causes. This website is intended to help you and your friends let 
a thousand flowers bloom."






>They are not a PAC but a 527.
>
>My only concern is that this sounds like it would undermine our 
>committment to no corporate etc. funding.
>
>-Edward
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>
>Message: 3
>
>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:05:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
>From: "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
>
>Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green PAC?
>
>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>
>Message-ID: <2790.38.99.84.36.1214503504.squirrel at www.greens.org>
>
>Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>I think its an idea that's long overdue.  I'd make it at LEAST Santa
>
>Clara
>
>Co though.
>
>
>
>Green is Connection!
>
>
>Drew
>
>
>On Thu, June 26, 2008 09:29, Rob Means wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
>
> >
>
> > I'm thinking of starting a Green PAC in Milpitas that "supports
>
> > candidates who support Green Party values."
>
> >
>
> > Here in Milpitas, the existing three-member majority (which has not been
>
> > very "green") is about to consolidate their control of
>
>  City
>
>government
>
> > in November's election.  Although the Council majority has angered
>
> > people with recent actions, folks have not yet self-organized to combat
>
> > this political juggernaut.  Only one candidate has come forward to
>
> > challenge the Council majority candidates.  I think other candidates may
>
> > come forward if substantial funding ($20,000 to $50,000) were available
>
> > to support their campaigns.  The PAC could be a way to fund such an
>
> > opposition campaign.  In addition to collecting money from unhappy
>
> > residents, contributions would be request from developers and other
>
> > special interest groups.
>
> >
>
> > What do you think?
>
> >
>
> > Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters
>
> > 408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
>
> > 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
>
>_______________________________________________
>sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Jun 26 14:17:56 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:17:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] July 2 agenda & INFO NEEDED?
In-Reply-To: <48618600.10001@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48618600.10001@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <10FFC3ED-1E87-4046-BDE3-F7A4FC4F364A@cagreens.org>

Hey, relative to the donation letter, does ANYONE know
the most number of state ballot lines that we managed to get on for  
any election????
I NEED AN ANSWER??ASAP!!!!
Thanks,
Andi

On Jun 24, 2008, at 4:40 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Please submit your agenda items early.
>
> Come prepared to volunteer for a time slot in the weekend tabling.
> Putting that schedule together will be one item.
>
> There is a chance that we can use all the hands present for a mailing
> party of a fundraising letter that is being prepared.
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> Jim Doyle
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 26 15:23:02 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:23:02 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council meeting 6/29
Message-ID: <486416C6.1080905@sbcglobal.net>

There will be a county council meeting Sunday June 29-th at 3 pm
at 1683 Nightingale Avenue, Sunnyvale 94087.

It's within a couple of blocks to 280.

 From 280 North, take the Wolfe Road exit, turn left toward Homestead
Road, turn right on Homestead, and immediately turn left onto
Nightingale from an unprotected left turn lane. Pass T intersection
on left, go to 1683, the second house on the left after the T.

 > Do you need any folding chairs?

Yes, if we have more than 7 who need backs on seats; otherwise I have
two rickety picnic benches as well that could hold another (say) six.
I can throw a table cloth over the old picnic table for the snacks.

 > Is there shade in the yard?

Yes. A large magnolia stands over a brick-in-sand patio.

 > Are there any other miscellaneous needs?
 >
Our hostess responded

Maybe people could bring their own recyclable plate & cup?
BYOB, if you drink sodas or diet stuff, as I don't buy any of that?

I'll supply paper towels for napkins and I could make some iced tea?
I also have plastic utensils that I run through the dishwasher to recycle.

I have no fridge there, so ice will melt pretty fast?but I could
bring my camping ice chest,
There is running water in kitchen and bathroom, and electricity is on.




From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 26 20:25:27 2008
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:25:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sign Kucinich's Impeachment Petition
Message-ID: <BAY115-W51DB167D8D0F2E932CC0D19EA20@phx.gbl>



And please forward widely!









WHEREAS, in his conduct while President of the United States, George W. Bush, in
violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully execute the office of President of the
United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution
of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws
be faithfully executed, has committed abuses of power.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that President George W. Bush has acted in a manner
contrary to his trust as President and Commander in Chief, and subversive of
constitutional government, to the prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the
manifest injury of the people of the United States and that he be impeached for high
crimes and misdemeanors.

http://impeachment.kucinich.us/Click at the right, "Impeach Bush Now!"



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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 27 23:23:51 2008
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:23:51 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Sign on for the Bill of Rights"
Message-ID: <4865D8F7.6060501@earthlink.net>


A Massachusetts group is campaigning for the Constitution.

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/27/9936/

Gerry



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sat Jun 28 20:43:38 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:43:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: [GPCA Official Notice] GPCA IMPORTANT --
	Contacts List Updates
Message-ID: <47213.38.99.84.53.1214711018.squirrel@greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] GPCA  IMPORTANT -- Contacts List Updates
From:    "County Contacts" <contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org>
Date:    Sat, June 28, 2008 13:51
To:      "County Contacts" <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more information,
or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply.
 Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The GPCA IT Group needs to update the "Contacts" list with all the new
county council members. The Contacts list is used to distribute official
business messages from the state party to the county organizations, thus it
is vital to our internal communications. Your cooperation is needed to keep
our communication system functioning.

The current list with the new councilors that have been reported can be
viewed at http://cagreens.org/it/county/contacts/cntylist.html.

The County Council page is color coded to show the changes I'm intending.

+  If we received some names from a county, we added those (green) and will
remove all the others (pink).

+  If we haven't received any names from a county, we're leaving all the
names from the old list (yellow).


WHAT COUNTY COUNCILS NEED TO DO

Each person who is to be subscribed to the Contacts list must go to the
online form at http://cagreens.org/it/county/ and provide your contact
information. Even if you were on the old list, it helps us if you complete
the online form.

PLEASE ATTEND TO THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THE COUNTY CONTACTS LIST
REMAINS VIABLE.

There are two categories of people allowed on the Contacts list:

1. County Council members. Unless otherwise requested, all councilors are
automatically subscribed to the list. The IT Group also maintains a database
of contact information on councilors. This information is used by the state
Coordinating Committee for communication purposes.

2. Any active Green in your county may subscribe. The County Council will be
asked to affirm any such requests. Since this list is official business, a
person should be actively involved with the party to be affirmed.
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>


The IT group has developed rules and procedures governing broadcast lists,
such as the Contact list. You can find a link to the document at
http://cagreens.org/it/ if you want more detail on how this system works.

Email to it-help at cagreens.org with any questions.


Thanks...

Jim Stauffer



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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jun 28 21:13:31 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:13:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 4-th, 5-th, 6-th  July tabling hours
Message-ID: <48670BEB.5000602@sbcglobal.net>

Just this afternoon, Saturday June 28-th I received the official notice
from the organisers of the America Festival

The hours are
Friday    July 4-th     Noon to 10:30 pm
Saturday July 5-th    3 pm to 10:30 pm
Sunday   July 6-th    1 pm to 9 pm

Our booth, A-011 is along the fence close to the light rail station
just as it has been in the past.

Friday is free.  We have wrist bands for Saturday and Sunday.
The wrist band patterns are Smiley Faces on Saturday and eightballs on 
Sunday.

"Load in times" are Thursday from 5 pm to 7pm
and Friday from 7:30 am to 8:30 am.
Enter from San Carlos Street near Woz Way.

We will finalize who tables when at the meeting on Wednesday night.

Jim Doyle




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jun 28 21:14:24 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:14:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda for Wednesday's meeting
Message-ID: <48670C20.1050907@sbcglobal.net>

Last call for agenda items for next Wednesday's meeting.

Jim Doyle



From andid at cagreens.org  Mon Jun 30 10:47:56 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:47:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 4-th, 5-th, 6-th  July tabling...
In-Reply-To: <48670BEB.5000602@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48670BEB.5000602@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <D4D57D7E-97FE-483E-BB48-91F7AA3CBC1B@cagreens.org>


On Jun 28, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Just this afternoon, Saturday June 28-th I received the official  
> notice
> from the organisers of the America Festival
>
> The hours are
> Friday    July 4-th     Noon to 10:30 pm
> Saturday July 5-th    3 pm to 10:30 pm

Jim, I can do at least 3 to 6 PM on Saturday
[but no later than dusk (7 PM?) as I have a pussy cat to get in
before "the little foxes" or coyotes get him!!]

> Sunday   July 6-th    1 pm to 9 pm
>
> Our booth, A-011 is along the fence close to the light rail station
> just as it has been in the past.
>
> Friday is free.  We have wrist bands for Saturday and Sunday.
> The wrist band patterns are Smiley Faces on Saturday and eightballs on
> Sunday.
>
> "Load in times" are Thursday from 5 pm to 7pm
> and Friday from 7:30 am to 8:30 am.
> Enter from San Carlos Street near Woz Way.
>
> We will finalize who tables when at the meeting on Wednesday night.
>
> Jim Doyle
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Jun 30 13:36:03 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:36:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Picnic
Message-ID: <535481.74144.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

We have picnic! August 9 at Murphy Park in Sunnyvale. It is only possible to reserve one space, but if we get there before other people who don't have reservations, we can grab more tables. Our table is right next to the horseshoe area. If we want shade, we'd better be prepared to bring it. The reservation can only be canceled up to July 9 for a refund. I will be out of town from the 4th to the 13th, so, if there is a chance we want to cancel, somebody else ought to have the paper. The cost was $20. Is that a donation or do I get reimbursed?
  Caroline
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From andid at cagreens.org  Mon Jun 30 23:10:24 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:10:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Picnic
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You get reimbursed.  We of SCCcc authorized the reservation.
Andrea

On Jun 30, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:

> We have picnic! August 9 at Murphy Park in Sunnyvale. It is only  
> possible to reserve one space, but if we get there before other  
> people who don't have reservations, we can grab more tables. Our  
> table is right next to the horseshoe area. If we want shade, we'd  
> better be prepared to bring it. The reservation can only be  
> canceled up to July 9 for a refund. I will be out of town from the  
> 4th to the 13th, so, if there is a chance we want to cancel,  
> somebody else ought to have the paper. The cost was $20. Is that a  
> donation or do I get reimbursed?
> Caroline
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