From alexcathy at aol.com Sat Mar 1 09:25:50 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:25:50 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Education Not an Issue? -- 'Demopublicans' Won't Talk About It Message-ID: <8CA49D86DE55482-14A8-E8A@webmail-nc18.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, Some of you who work in education or have school age children or grandchildren may find this interesting. Alex Walker ? Education Not an Issue? - - 'Demopublicans' Won't Talk About It Forget ideology. Forget the personalities of individual politicians. I think I could write a whole book arguing for the Green Party simply based on all the important issues that get short shrift simply because the damned Democrats and Republicans don't talk about them. And according to the two-party totalitarian culture of the United States, if "liberal" Democrats and "conservative" Republicans don't talk about a problem, then it's not a problem. Jeffrey Henig has an interesting op-ed in the Boston Globe on why education is a missing issue in this year's political campaign. "Liberal" Democrats are now divided on the question of charter schools and "Conservative" Republicans are now divided on Bush's No Child Left Behind Act. And so, the gutless politician's are doing what gutless Demopublicans always do -- playing it safe. Published by the Boston Globe, March 1, 2008 The Debate on Education by Jeffrey R. Henig . . . Democrats, who used to argue against charter schools (casting them as vouchers in sheep's clothing), increasingly see charters as a benign and promising form of public school reform. Republicans, who once could rally around the get-tough aspects of No Child Left Behind, are growing irritated about the negative impact of high-stakes testing. This internal ambivalence is making it risky for the candidates to use the tried-and-true formulations that have worked in the past. . . This is an issue that is close to me. My wife, Cathy Deppe and my daughter have taught in the public schools in San Jose. Cathy has also taught in Los Angeles where the Los Angeles Unified School District, presided over by the Los Angeles Democratic Party Machine is an absolute disgrace. We have grandchildren attending public schools in California where our sacrosanct racist 2-Party System has all but destroyed what was once one of the finest systems of public education in the world. Read More on at Green Commons: http://www.greencommons.org/node/980 ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Mar 1 10:16:26 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:16:26 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Wrong about Nader" Message-ID: <47C99D7A.9080304@earthlink.net> FYI, "Wrong about Nader" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/01/7399/ I have never heard of this author, but according to the blurb at the end: "Douglas Schoen, a pollster, is the author of "Declaring Independence: The Beginning of the End of the Two-Party System."" Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Mar 1 13:41:10 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 13:41:10 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Deadlines for voting in June Primary? Message-ID: <47C9CD76.3060905@earthlink.net> I may be reregistering as Green one or more people tomorrow. But how many may depend on the answer to a question. Some may want to vote in the Democratic primary in June. I don't know, but begin registering Green now might preclude that option. Anyone know? Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 1 16:44:36 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:44:36 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: [GPCA Official Notice] GPCA Plenary Announcement April 4, 5, 6 Message-ID: <000d01c87bfe$97cec800$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "County Contacts" To: "County Contacts" Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:56 PM Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] GPCA Plenary Announcement April 4, 5, 6 > GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE > > This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, > or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. > Follow the contact directions > stated in the email. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Dear Greens, > > The next General Assembly of the GPCA will be April 4,5-6 at the UC > Berkeley > campus in Alameda County . > > The agenda packet is planned for distribution no later than March 15. > > Along with regular party business, this General Assembly will decide the > annual budget and deal with issues involving the National Presidential > Nominating Convention (July 10-13 in Chicago ). > > As more information becomes available it will be posted on the plenary web > site at http://cagreens.org/plenary/. > > Another message will be sent to you when online registration is open. > > If you have questions or comments, please forward them to > agenda-team at cagreens.org. > > An election will be held for the at-large seats. Please submit bios > ASAP > to agenda-team at cagreens.org we will be discussing the deadline for > submission shortly. > > Sincerely, > Larry Mullen and Christina Olague > > > _______________________________________________ > Contacts2006 mailing list > Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From jims at greens.org Sat Mar 1 16:30:06 2008 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:30:06 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Deadlines for voting in June Primary? In-Reply-To: <47C9CD76.3060905@earthlink.net> References: <47C9CD76.3060905@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47C9F50E.7040302@greens.org> Of course registered Greens are not allowed to vote in any other party's primary. The same way only Greens are allowed in our primary. Some parties allow DTS voters in their primary, but none allow members of other parties. Jim Gerry Gras wrote: > I may be reregistering as Green one or more people > tomorrow. But how many may depend on the answer to > a question. > > Some may want to vote in the Democratic primary in > June. I don't know, but begin registering Green > now might preclude that option. Anyone know? > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Mar 1 18:20:44 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:20:44 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Deadlines for voting in June Primary? References: <47C9CD76.3060905@earthlink.net> <47C9F50E.7040302@greens.org> Message-ID: <47CA0EFC.8030706@earthlink.net> I did not state the question well. If someone wanted to sign a petition for a Green candidate, could they switch to Green now and back to D later in time for the D primary, and apparently the answer is no. Gerry Jim Stauffer wrote: > Of course registered Greens are not allowed to vote in any other party's > primary. The same way only Greens are allowed in our primary. Some parties > allow DTS voters in their primary, but none allow members of other parties. > > Jim > > > > Gerry Gras wrote: > >>I may be reregistering as Green one or more people >>tomorrow. But how many may depend on the answer to >>a question. >> >>Some may want to vote in the Democratic primary in >>June. I don't know, but begin registering Green >>now might preclude that option. Anyone know? >> >>Gerry >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > From andid at cagreens.org Sun Mar 2 15:46:37 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:46:37 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cameron's Post on Handling the "Spoiler" Question In-Reply-To: <47C88B34.6060306@freeshell.org> References: <8CA4789B1ACDE62-E28-9E2@webmail-nd17.sysops.aol.com> <47C5E1AC.1000705@greens.org> <47C717F3.7070006@greens.org> <8CA487516152BDA-BAC-5B7@webmail-nc14.sysops.aol.com> <47C88B34.6060306@freeshell.org> Message-ID: I love the audacity of Fred's suggestion! Failing that, however... I think identifying the two third parties with their name-recognition candidates as a "progressive block" and, as often as possible, have them shaking hands "across the aisle" as do the major parties in DC when they (first one party, then the other) casually tank any progressive bills. Meanwhile, the democrats continue to claim that they could pass these bills if they just had "one more democrat"? so your vote in this election is even more critical than ever!! It sure sounds like the same old whine designed to keep people from voting for the candidate they really want and making them feel guilty if they do. Andrea On Feb 29, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Fred Duperrault wrote: > On Feb 29, 2008, at 1:24 pm, fredd at freeshell.org wrote: > > It is entertaining to read and hear most of the mainstream minds > rant and rave over the audacity of the announcement of the Nader- > Gonzales independent run for the presidency, during the $?Billion > "thoroughbred horse race" now limited to three elite U.S. Senators > backed by the corporate - military - governmental complex. > > It baffles the Green Party that will most likely nominate Cynthia > McKinney, a convert from the Democratic Party that treated her as a > pariah figure. Cynthia has been a real boost to the Green Party. > Now, how should the Green Party adapt to the situation in which > former Green Candidate Nader and a Green with great potential, Matt > Gonzales, are teamed to compete for the Green and the other > progressive voting blocks' support? What can Cynthia and the > Greens do to share some of the dregs of attention that Nader and > Gonzales will get after the "thoroughbreds" consume 99% of the > coverage? > > A suggestion: When Cynthia is nominated, she should announce that > she has chosen Ralph Nader as her V.P. running mate and will > consider Matt Gonzales as one of her top Green consultants. Whether > or not it would be technically possible, it would be a way to get > attention, to disarm the dividers of the Green "spoilers," and to > develop some unity through humor and the outrageousness of it all. > > It would be great fun to hold progressive forums where the Green > Party Candidate for President and her independent "Running Mate" > would face off on the issues. > > How else are the "politically marginal candidates of the > progressive left" going to stir up some interest and get a peek > from the arrogant > "fourth estate," now better known as the corporate conglomerates' > "real estate.?" > > "Nader for Vice President!" > > At risk, > > Fred D. > > > > > > On Feb 28, 2008, at 3:02 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > >> Wow! >> >> Cameron, that's brilliant. you really should polish that a >> little bit and submit it for publication someplace where millions >> of people can read it. > > I, too, have asked this genius to share this information factually so > we can use it when we get hit over the head for EVER voting for > Nader, as he were the devil incarnate. > > I always ask these bullies, who stand over me snarling, why they > think they own my vote. I quit voting long before Nader stepped in. > My very first vote was Republican (Nixon). So there. (I've come a > long way, baby!) > > The closest to a scientific explanation I've ever seen was in the > documentary, "An Unreasonable Man." > And somewhere, earlier, I also heard that more Democrats voted for > Bush than people voted for Nader (in the 2000 election?). > >> I, myself, struggle constantly with my desire to call for "Jihad" >> against the Democratic Party Machine Bosses in Los Angeles. I >> hate the Democrats. I can't stop thinking about the things >> they've done to sell-out, betray, marginalize, and ridicule >> people I know who have worked 10, 20, 30, and even 40 years for >> peace, civil rights, women's rights, labor rights, and >> environmentalism. Then, to add insult to injury, every time we >> turn around along comes another rich, well-connected charming >> "liberal" with a law degree from Harvard or Yale and so-called >> "progressives" swoon. >> >> Having said all that, Cameron, I know in my head you are right. >> >> We should be "Green and cuddly." You catch more flies with honey >> than vinegar. >> >> I think we should have a workshop on this at a plenary. I am >> serious. We should practice a little "role play" on what to say >> and how to act when somebody puts the "spoiler" argument. We >> should also have a workshop on what to say and what not to say in >> a press release. > > I probably need to get a bit of training in diplomacy?my worst > subject. Too Irish, I guess. > >> Thus, for example, I've been told if you want to get an op-ed in >> a newspaper you must never, ever, insult the editors in your op- >> ed. Oh! That is so hard for me. I hate the MSM almost as much >> as the Democratic Party bosses! The "Op-Ed" page is supposed to >> be for views that disagree with the newspaper's editorials. But >> the subtle truth is, they only print "Op-Eds" that genuflect to >> the paper's wisdom in some way. When the Los Angeles Times >> posted my blog it was because I *AGREED* with their editorial >> about the need for reform. I just said the Democrats and the >> Republicans were incapable of doing it. >> >> It's a very subtle thing. You gotta be firm... but you gotta be >> nice (notice how they are all saying what a "nice guy" William F. >> Buckley was and never mind that the guy was an outright fascist. >> Buckley was "witty" and "polite" with a degree from Yale). >> >> >> Alex Walker >> >> >> -----Begin Original Message----- >> From: Cameron L. Spitzer >> To: gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org >> Sent: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:22 pm >> Subject: Re: [GPCA-CCWG] What is future of the GP, What Nader >> runing for? gpca-ccwg Digest, Vol 30, Issue 23 >> >> Bob Marsh wrote: >>> Do not give any ground or sympathy to Demopublicans who >>> are infected. Attack them (verbally only) whenever you hear >>> this crap. Tell them you wish we had "spoiled" the election >>> because then they might pay attention to our demands! >> Please don't. Don't utter a single word which might be taken >> as admitting there is any such thing as "spoiling." Ever. >> >> These days, when I meet one of these die-hard Dems, >> and they accuse the Greens or Nader of " spoiling," I pretend >> I have never heard the accusation before and ask them to >> explain it to me. Then I interrupt them at each false >> assumption in their argument. Nobody has ever been able >> to explain The Spoiler Effect to me without making at least >> one false assumption. Of course they don't learn >> anything from the exchange, faith being impervious to mere >> facts and reason, but it gives them the message >> that I am not buying one bit of their crap, and they go away. >> If they want to talk politics with me, fine, but I'm not >> joining them in Toontown to do it. >> >> . . . >> >> -----End Original Message----- >> >> >> Supercharge your AIM. Get the AIM toolbar for your browser. >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Mar 2 16:56:49 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:56:49 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Wrong about Nader" References: <47C99D7A.9080304@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47CB4CD1.3090802@earthlink.net> Andrea has pointed out that this URL does not get you to this article. I looked, and I can't find this article on Common Dreams now. I have sent an email to the editor of Common Dreams asking about this. In the meantime, the original article is at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902786.html Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > FYI, > > "Wrong about Nader" > > http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/01/7399/ > > I have never heard of this author, but according to the > blurb at the end: > > "Douglas Schoen, a pollster, is the author of "Declaring Independence: > The Beginning of the End of the Two-Party System."" > > Gerry > From jims at greens.org Sun Mar 2 19:52:02 2008 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:52:02 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Deadlines for voting in June Primary? In-Reply-To: <47CA0EFC.8030706@earthlink.net> References: <47C9CD76.3060905@earthlink.net> <47C9F50E.7040302@greens.org> <47CA0EFC.8030706@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47CB75E2.6060001@greens.org> Well, they could do this, but it gets tricky. They'd have to be sure to stay Green long enough for the RoV to verify their signature on the petition. Who knows how long that is? Jim Gerry Gras wrote: > I did not state the question well. > > If someone wanted to sign a petition for a Green > candidate, could they switch to Green now and > back to D later in time for the D primary, > and apparently the answer is no. > > Gerry > > > Jim Stauffer wrote: > >> Of course registered Greens are not allowed to vote in any other party's >> primary. The same way only Greens are allowed in our primary. Some parties >> allow DTS voters in their primary, but none allow members of other parties. >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> Gerry Gras wrote: >> >>> I may be reregistering as Green one or more people >>> tomorrow. But how many may depend on the answer to >>> a question. >>> >>> Some may want to vote in the Democratic primary in >>> June. I don't know, but begin registering Green >>> now might preclude that option. Anyone know? >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Mar 3 10:20:54 2008 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:20:54 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Deadlines for voting in June Primary? Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/2008 6:16:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, gerrygras at earthlink.net writes: If someone wanted to sign a petition for a Green candidate, could they switch to Green now and back to D later in time for the D primary, and apparently the answer is no. Gerry My recollection is that one can register to vote in an election in California up to fifteen (15) days before the election. As a general rule, I would not want individuals to register Green just for the purpose of qualifying someone onto our Primary Election ballot when you know they do not intend to do so for any other reason. This is exactly one of the tactics that can be used to put "ringers" and "sabateurs" on our ballot and is another example of our vulnerability as a small party where we do not have a NOTA option and often have only one candidate (if any) on our Primary Election ballot. Warner **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. 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With coalfields nearby, Obama noted that he comes from a coal state and repeated his pitch for clean-coal technology and made clear he believes coal will continue to be a vital part of the nation's energy supply. "Clean-coal technology should be part of that mix," he said. "We are the Saudi Arabia of coal." Source: Baltimore Sun . The US Dept. of Energy has recently shut down the Future Gen project for cleaning up coal because it is much more expensive and does not work very well. Source: C/NET Bring this back to California... Over a year ago, the Public Utilities Commission all be banned contracting for power from coal fired plants. Source: San Diego Union Tribune . I think it is time to take back our brand. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 5 00:04:18 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:04:18 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Ralph Nader Is Not Simply a Spoiler" Message-ID: <47CE5402.6050105@earthlink.net> Published on Tuesday, March 4, 2008 by the Bangor Daily News (Maine) "Ralph Nader Is Not Simply a Spoiler" by John Buell http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/04/7465/ Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 5 00:48:47 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:48:47 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Gitmo 'Attack Dog' Turns on His Pentagon Masters" Message-ID: <47CE5E6F.5030707@earthlink.net> "Gitmo 'Attack Dog' Turns on His Pentagon Masters" "Military lawyer 'puts career on line' to question fairness of commission system he had championed" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/04/7451/ Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Wed Mar 5 08:43:18 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:43:18 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Open Question Message-ID: <47CECDA6.8010104@charter.net> In an email to the National Committee today, GP Media Committee CoChair Scott McLarty questioned the number of "down ticket" races that we have in a presidential year. Actually, we have a few here in CA for Congress and I think one for Mayor of San Diego, but I have not yet heard of any GPCA member running for either the Assembly or State Senate. Nor do I see any Greens running for County Supervisor in California. While Greens talk a lot about Grassroots Democracy, there does not seem to be a great deal of interest in actually functioning at the grassroots. Does anyone have a better idea about why this is than I do? I have the feeling that it is a reflection of the motivation for people to join the Green Party, the issues that drive that (e.g. peace). Is the real question one of how we can build the superstructure of a party when there is no foundation? -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Mar 5 11:12:11 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:12:11 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Open Question In-Reply-To: <47CECDA6.8010104@charter.net> References: <47CECDA6.8010104@charter.net> Message-ID: <47CEF08B.7050807@aceweb.com> Wes Rolley wrote: > In an email to the National Committee today, GP Media Committee CoChair > Scott McLarty questioned the number of "down ticket" races that we have > in a presidential year. > > Actually, we have a few here in CA for Congress and I think one for > Mayor of San Diego, but I have not yet heard of any GPCA member running > for either the Assembly or State Senate. Nor do I see any Greens > running for County Supervisor in California. Ummm... There are two in San Francisco, Ross Mirkarimi and Mark Sanchez. http://cagreens.org/elections/#_candidates Ballot access for partisan races doesn't close until Friday. Stay tuned for more information... > > While Greens talk a lot about Grassroots Democracy, there does not seem > to be a great deal of interest in actually functioning at the > grassroots. Does anyone have a better idea about why this is than I do? A lot of city council type races only start in August. Again, stay tuned for more information... > > I have the feeling that it is a reflection of the motivation for people > to join the Green Party, the issues that drive that (e.g. peace). > > Is the real question one of how we can build the superstructure of a > party when there is no foundation? > I wonder about that a lot to. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Yesterday I learned that we gathered 40 signatures for Carol Brouillet on the wrong form. We have to gather 40 more by Friday or pay a big fee. From cbrouillet at igc.org Wed Mar 5 11:54:30 2008 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:54:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] URGENT!!!! Dem.Impeachment Candidate vs. Lofgren Needs help! Message-ID: If you can logistically help ASAP! This is critical to pressure Lofgren, and for the Impeachment movement- Cynthia needs and deserves our support- but I think she also needs a registered Democrat to help her do this. From: cynthia papermaster Subject: urgent: zoe lofgren campaign I need to "pull papers" from the Santa Clara Registrar of Voters in San Jose today to run against Zoe Lofgren in the June Democratic primary on an impeachment platform. I need someone in San Jose to do that for me. If you're that person*, please call me immediately: 510-333-6097 and I'll give you the brief details of what you'll need to do, It's simple, but urgent. Cynthia Papermaster *I think it helps if you're a registered Democrat-- I'll check. From cbrouillet at igc.org Wed Mar 5 13:16:51 2008 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:16:51 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] HELP FOUND! Re: Urgent: Your Help needed today in San Jose Message-ID: HELP FOUND! THANKS ALL. Cynthia cynthia papermaster wrote: Well, I've decided to run in the June Democratic primary against Zoe. Sure I'm crazy, but hey, yesterday Pete Stark, my opponent in the 13th District signed on to the Kucinich articles of impeachment for Cheney, so maybe my candidacy pushed him a little to do that. I've dropped out of that race and, due to many requests, am going to file to run as a Democrat in CA-16, against Zoe. I fully realize that she has that Congressional seat for life, but this additional little factor may be the one that convinces her to join her colleagues on the Judicial Committee who want the Cheney hearings to start. It's worth a shot anyway. I just talked to Randy and he thinks someone in your group may be able to help me out today. The most URGENT thing today is that I need to "pull papers" from the Santa Clara Registrar of Voters in San Jose-- yes, TODAY. This is a simple procedure, but urgent, since the papers include the petitions I'll need signed by 60 Democrats in the 16th district by Friday at 5 pm. If you can possibly go to the Registrar's office today before 5 p.m. and do that it would be fantastic. Please call me immediately at 510-333-6097 and I'll give you the brief details of what you'll need to do. Cynthia Papermaster Sign Congressman Wexler's petition for Cheney impeachment hearings,now @over 230,000 signatures: www.wexlerwantshearings.com Sign Congressman Wexler's petition for Cheney impeachment hearings,now @over 230,000 signatures: www.wexlerwantshearings.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Wed Mar 5 14:42:43 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:42:43 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment angle Message-ID: <47CF21E3.507@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Mar 5 22:32:33 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:32:33 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Wrong about Nader" In-Reply-To: <47CB4CD1.3090802@earthlink.net> References: <47C99D7A.9080304@earthlink.net> <47CB4CD1.3090802@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47CF9001.1060909@aceweb.com> Ralph & Matt: "Non partisan presidential & vice presidential candidates" Cindy: "Non partisan Congressional candidate" I'm thinking all of the above are sending out a loud clear message: "grass roots america, step back from the two party system" I hope they (the "unwashed masses") get it! Gerry Gras wrote: >> >> "Wrong about Nader" >> >> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/01/7399/ >> >> I have never heard of this author, but according to the >> blurb at the end: >> >> "Douglas Schoen, a pollster, is the author of "Declaring Independence: >> The Beginning of the End of the Two-Party System."" >> >> Gerry >> -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Yesterday I learned that we gathered 40 signatures for Carol Brouillet on the wrong form. We have to gather 40 more by Friday or pay a big fee. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 5 23:56:07 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:56:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Internet in Jeopardy as Neutrality Erodes" Message-ID: <47CFA397.50402@earthlink.net> Published on Wednesday, March 5, 2008 by The Seattle Times "Internet in Jeopardy as Neutrality Erodes" Editorial http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/05/7494/ Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Mar 7 09:40:17 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:40:17 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Losing the Future" Message-ID: <47D17E01.3090107@earthlink.net> I think this is a good article about something that does not get enough attention, the long term damage being done by the Bush Administration. "Losing the Future" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/06/7527/ Gerry From JamBoi at Greens.org Fri Mar 7 11:48:14 2008 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:48:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Pro-impeachment candidate to run against Lofgren! - Possible Green recruit? Message-ID: <2157.75.17.60.87.1204919294.squirrel@greens.org> Cynthia Papermaster is a very active member of Code Pink. I couldn't tell from the article what her party affiliation is, but I did find a note from our sister Green Carol Wolman that suggested she run as an independent against Zoe Lofgren. Even if she runs as an independent (due to the way the election laws are written and the window having closed for switching party membership to run as a member of a different party) she may be interested in the longer run in being a Green. Carol Brouillet knows Cynthia Papermaster. Carol Wolman's incouraging note: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eastbayimpeach/message/3411 Note: the following Cynthia Papermaster for congress web site hasn't been updated yet to reflect her switch from running against Pete Stark (who just signed to HRes 333 -- Yeah!) to running vs. Lofgren. http://www.cynthia08.com/ Some profile pages of Cynthia Papermaster http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/Elections/candidates/2002/schoolbd/papermaster.htm http://impeachbush.meetup.com/127/members/3964174/ http://cpapermaster.livejournal.com/profile http://www.dailycal.org/article/100768/resident_runs_for_congress_in_hopes_of_ousting_che Resident Runs for Congress In Hopes of Ousting Cheney By Asaf Shalev Thursday, March 6, 2008 Cynthia Papermaster Empowered by her ability to influence a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, a resident of Berkeley decided yesterday to run for a seat in the House in the June 3 primary. Cynthia Papermaster, who is an activist with anti-war group Code Pink, said she decided to run for a seat in the 16th Congressional District-which does not include Berkeley-because she said she wants to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney. Officials from the California Secretary of State said citizens can represent a congressional office they do not live in. Papermaster will be running against Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose. Papermaster first filed papers to run against Rep. Pete Stark, D-Fremont, but decided to withdraw those papers after Stark said he would support impeaching Cheney. Stark also said Papermaster had been a vocal supporter of impeachment, convincing him to poll his constituents. "We then added a question on impeachment to the survey," he said. "She was very instrumental in getting me to reach out to the constituents." Stark said Tuesday he changed his position after that survey indicated 64 percent of the 2000 constituents polled in his district said they supported impeaching President George W. Bush. Stark said he supports impeaching Cheney before Bush to prevent Cheney from becoming president. Papermaster then decided to withdraw from the race against Stark and instead run against Lofgren, who does not support impeachment. Papermaster said that while she does not think she can beat Lofgren, she is running in hope of influencing Lofgren to change her position, just like Stark. "She's absolutely got that seat for life," Papermaster said. "My chances of winning are laughable." But Papermaster said she still has hope because the public supports impeachment. "If I can capture her constituents on that, maybe I can win," she said. Lofgren's office could not be reached for comment. Even though Cheney leaves office in less than a year, Papermaster said she felt it was her duty to try to impeach him by running for office. "We have to uphold the constitution," she said. Papermaster said she is not opposed to Lofgren's policies, only the fact that she does not support impeachment. Because Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Oakland, who represents Berkeley, supports impeachment, Papermaster said she would not run against her. Many politicians in the Democratic Party think impeachment will divide the nation and are waiting for Bush and Cheney to leave office, Papermaster said. "Impeachment is not a dirty word," she said. "It is possible to do this." Contact Asaf Shalev at ashalev at dailycal.org. Tags: CYNTHIA PAPERMASTER, CITY, ELECTIONS From wrolley at charter.net Fri Mar 7 11:51:38 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:51:38 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] It isn't easy being green Message-ID: <47D19CCA.1040908@charter.net> The following was submitted to Morgan Hill Times today. It should run on Tuesday. According to the calendar, spring is just around the corner. It is a time when the term Green Foothills has real visual meaning. This year, the green is not just the color of spring but rather may define the entire year. Many major companies advertise to prove their greenness. Honda claims to be the Greenest Car Company in America. PG&E shows you acres of solar arrays in the desert. NY Times columnist, Thomas Friedman, proclaims that "Green is the New Red White and Blue." However, I keep hearing Kermit sining in my ear. "It isn't easy being green." One might wonder if that is still true and, if it is, why that might be so. After all, didn't Al Gore win an Oscar and a Nobel Prize? I believe it is still true and that the reasons come from the manner in which our individual economic situations affects with our collective political behavior. The earth is heading toward calamity and the time in which we can do anything is rather short. The problems will come from two major sources, a rise in sea level and a significant change in rainfall patterns. The rise in sea level will have significant economic consequences and the displacement of coastal populations, even in the United State where a high percentage of our population lives within 50 miles of the ocean, but more significantly in countries like Bangladesh that do not have the capability to recover on their own. The change in rainfall patterns will mean a major shift in agriculture. Areas that are now major food producers may be inundated by sea rise or may become the victims of drought. In California, the latter is more likely as most of the Central and Imperial Valleys are farmed heavily through irrigation. These areas may end up as unproductive. But, you might ask, what does that future problem have to do with me today? Some are facing the possibility of losing my job in a recession. Others don't know if they can continue to afford their current mortgage, especially if property values continue to fall. All of these are major problems that fact this country right now, not a problem of the future like global warming. While the collective penalty on society for failing to heed the warnings of Al Gore or NASA's Dr. Jim Hansen is great, the individual penalty on me, on my family, is rather small. If I fail to act, if I ignore the warnings, nothing really bad is going to happen to me personally. It might happen to my grandchildren but America has an overwhelming faith that technology will solve everything even though some of that technology is what got us into this problem in the first place. We have a lot of reasons not to focus on climate change and only one huge future reason to do so. So, when it comes time to vote this year, assuming that we all will, the candidates position on global warming and energy use will probably not be the reason that we select one candidate or another. In fact, there is little difference between Obama, Clinton and McCain on this issue. Our vote will more to do with their rhetoric about our current real estate driven economic problems than it will about their position on energy production. We will pay more attention to how they propose to deal with Iraq than what they are doing to prepare for an eventual rise in sea levels. If we are actually going to start being green, it has to be personal, local, and it will have to make economic sense for the each of us as individuals. But, many of us don't have any idea about what to do other than to change to lighting our home with CFL's or buying a hybrid car that we can't afford, not an easy sell with a recession looming. The City of Morgan Hill is taking an approach the would encourage us to take some actions that would be good for our health. That is great. The number one thing that we can do to make health insurance affordable it to reduce the need for professional health care. The rest of the Green Plan as described in Times are steps in the right direction, and if that is all we do, it would guarantee that the worst forecasts from Dr. Hansen would come true. Attending the Spring Green Forum on March 17 would be a good place for individuals to start. Holding is on St. Patrick's Day is clever. The Forum starts at 7:00 PM at the Community and Cultural Center. Learn about the City's Environmental Agenda and what the City plans to do. There is a lot more that the City could, and should, do . Since 40% of our country's energy use comes from building operations, we need the city to put requirements for improved energy efficiency into our building permit process. We need neighborhood or home owners association to allow their members to reduce the costs of solar panel installations through collective contracts for installation. It can be done. It needs to be done. There are no secrets. It just requires you to believe that there are going to be consequences if we do not act. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Mar 8 10:38:15 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:38:15 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Cynthia McKinney for President Weekly Update] Message-ID: <47D2DD17.9060409@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpsmc-d] Cynthia McKinney for President Weekly Update Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:49:06 -0700 From: Martin Zehr To: Greens SanMateo Hello all: And welcome to the premier issue of the Power to the People Committee, Cynthia McKinney for President Weekly Update. Just a couple of weeks ago we at long last launched the subscription forms for this list and for other public lists now or soon to be hosted by our campaign. Before the first issue goes to the list, already 222 McKinney for President supporters from thirty-five states have subscribed to this list. And with your help we can push that number over 500 by next week's issue. To join this list, please send your friends to subscribe at: http://supporters.runcynthiarun.org/supporters.cgi?function=subscribe Please forward this newsletter far and wide. Help us let the whole world know that Cynthia McKinney is running for President and that she's asking us to do some things we've never done before, so that we can have some things we've never had before. So with that, on to the latest news from the campaign: -- Delivering the McKinney Vote -- Washington, Wisconsin and Minnesota are now voting! There are mail ballots now underway in Washington and Wisconsin intended to instruct those state's Delegates to the Chicago Nominating convention. Ballots are due back, postmarked by March 11th in Washington and received in the Wisconsin Party's Post Office Box not later than March 27th. Tuesday night, March 4th, Greens in Minnesota gathered in Party caucuses for 62 of the state's 67 Senate districts. Preliminary results of the Minnesota straw poll, with 50 Caucuses reporting so far show 61% support for Cynthia's campaign. If you know Greens in those states, please give them a call. Make sure they cast those ballots for Cynthia. -- Fundraising -- The campaign has released its first progress report towards Federal Matching Funds. We want to express our appreciation to the following states whose residents have already given $5,000 or more in qualifying contributions toward our efforts to qualify for Federal Matching Funds: California, Illinois and Oregon; as well as the following states which are on their way towards that goal: Florida ($1.2k), Michigan ($1.2k), Minnesota ($2.5k), New York ($1.2k), Oklahoma ($1k), Texas ($3.5k), Washington ($2.5k) and Wisconsin ($1.6k). (Figures current through January 31st, 2008). When twenty or more states have raised $5,000 in qualifying contributions, the McKinney campaign will be eligible for a one-for-one match on that first $100,000, as well as the first $250 contributed by all future contributors until the Chicago Convention adjourns. Please make sure your state helps qualify us to double the first $250 of every individual contribution! Make your contribution today, then let your friends know you've done so and ask them to match or exceed your own contribution. You can donate online at: http://supporters.runcynthiarun.org/supporters.cgi Your contributions will let us fulfill the growing number of requests we get on a nearly daily basis for campaign materials, and keep our candidate on the road campaigning for the nomination. To learn more about our efforts to qualify for the Federal Matching Program, check out the details at: http://www.runcynthiarun.org/node/1 -- Ballot Access -- As this Update is prepared, the Arizona Green Party is reporting that it has likely delivered a ballot line to the national Party's nominee with its petition filing on March 6th. They required 20,499 valid signatures. They filed 29,300. With the help of Greens from around the country, including many McKinney supporters, who contributed financially to the effort and travelled to Arizona to petition, they expect that their filing will be enough to survive the validation process. Cynthia McKinney travelled to Arizona early in the campaign to conduct a joint fundraiser which raised sufficient funds to add another county to those in Arizona able to put Green candidates on the ballot and before the voters. In the final weeks of this effort, contributors to the McKinney campaign were thanked with an appeal to consider giving again to help put the Arizona Party over the top. -- Campaign Visibility -- Cynthia recently participated in a forum at University of Maryland, covered by C-SPAN. The event is covered on her personal website at: http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/node/270 with links to the tv coverage in the C-SPAN archives. Essence Magazine's website carried an interview with Cynthia, describing her as "The New Face of the Green Party", reprinted on her site at: http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/node/273 Asked why voters should consider her campaign, Cynthia responded: "If people feel deep within their hearts that there is still something structurally wrong with the limited choices we have in our two-party system, then I want people to say let me be a part of the 5 percent that changes the structure of our country." Guerilla News Network has now made Ian Ibarra's film, American Blackout, available in full on the web. We've embedded a copy on Cynthia's website at: http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/AmericanBlackout This powerful documentary on the disfranchisement of the Black vote which spoiled elections in Florida 2000, Georgia 2002 and Ohio 2004 revolves around the story of Cynthia McKinney and her struggles against the malicious cross-over vote which cost her a Congressional seat in 2002. Ted Glick, former Green Party candidate for the U.S. Senate in New Jersey, used his Future Hope column this week to comment on Nader's choice to run again as an independent, as he did in 2004. He wrote: "Indeed, I would think that the Democratic Party establishment must be very pleased at the likelihood that Ralph Nader and, most likely, Cynthia McKinney will be competing against not just the Dems and Reps but each other." Chastising Nader's decision he continues: "This is not the best way to build a unified independent progressive alternative to the Democrats and Republicans." To read the full story, see: http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/node/276 You can contribute to this campaign's visibility in your own community by downloading, reproducing and distributing our campaign flyer: "Leading a Peace Slate to Reclaim Our Nation", at: http://www.runcynthiarun.org/system/files/LeadingPeaceSlateToReclaimOurNation.pdf -- Building the Campaign State-by-State -- Last week McKinney supporters in New York began meeting to craft their plan for delivering the McKinney vote in their April mail ballot. You can do the same in your community or state. Use our campaign website's links to Eventful and Meetup to help plan local gatherings of McKinney supporters. If you want to help build a state-wide campaign for Cynthia in your home state, please use the TalkBack form to contact campaign staff about the next steps. Also the campaign has begun the process of naming volunteer coordinators in each state to help respond to the sometimes overwhelming number of volunteers who have reached out to our campaign to help Cynthia secure the nomination and the votes of the American people. For those of you eager to get to work, know that our phone call is coming soon. Paid for by the Power to the People Committee, Cynthia McKinney for President http://www.RunCynthiaRun.org/ _______________________________________________ Updates mailing list Updates at lists.runcynthiarun.org http://lists.runcynthiarun.org/listinfo.cgi/updates-runcynthiarun.org -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Online audio clips of the testimonials will be posted as the hearing progresses." http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/08/7556/ Gerry From cbrouillet at igc.org Sun Mar 9 10:55:38 2008 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:55:38 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Film- American Blackout- Tuesday March 11th featuring Cynthia McKinney Message-ID: One of the few genuine voices for change, truth, peace, justice in the US is Cynthia McKinney, a Green party candidate for President, and one of the most courageous voices in Congress, until she was ousted by the Corporate Media, the Democrats, with assistance from Diebold voting machines... she should still be in Congress, now. Peace and Justice Movie Night Lights! Cameras! Activism! [] Your outrage is waiting... Anger and Irregularities at the Voting Booth ---------- Disenfranchising African-Americans Few things in a democracy are more sacrosanct than the right to vote, and in his furious documentary ?American Blackout,? Ian Inaba assembles compelling evidence to support his claim that African-Americans ? who are traditionally more likely to vote Democratic ? are being deliberately and systematically excluded from the political process. Interviewing Congressional leaders, journalists and regular voters, Mr. Inaba begins by addressing the Florida debacle of 2000, arguing that behind the exhaustive coverage of hanging chads and faulty voting machines lies an underreported and more complex story of black disenfranchisement. In a strong middle section, the movie examines the political troubles of Representative Cynthia McKinney, a vocal critic of the Bush administration, suggesting that her ouster in 2002 was engineered by Republican crossover voting. A particularly powerful segment shows how at least one of Ms. McKinney?s statements about the Sept. 11 attacks was edited by some commentators to appear infinitely less reasonable than the original. By the time we reach the 2004 general election, the anger in ?American Blackout? is palpable. As we listen to voters complain about roadblocks and false felony records, and watch the endless lines of black voters standing patiently in the rain in Ohio, it?s impossible to ignore the gravity of the film?s claims. Though occasionally inflammatory ? one interviewee talks about being ?slingshotted into slavery? ? ?American Blackout? isn?t a conspiracy rant. It?s a methodical compilation of questions and irregularities that deserves a wider audience. (Text from New York Times movie review by Jeannette Catsoulis.) Sundance Film Festival Special Jury Prize Tuesday, March 11, 7:30 pm Fellowship Hall, First Baptist Church 305 N. 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That means there need to be volunteers who are willing to take responsiblity for the following tasks: Publicity Collecting, bringing (and un-bringing) items Sorting and pricing items Set up each morning, being present through out each day, and take down each afternoon Reply to this list so we can all know who will be doing what... Warner (in the Jampantown neighborhood in San Jose) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Mar 10 10:51:29 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:51:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Join our team to fix FISA] Message-ID: <47D57521.6050606@earthlink.net> Conyers and Leahy are asking for help to fight against Bush re FISA and immunity for telecoms. Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Join our team to fix FISA Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:40:54 GMT From: "Patrick Leahy & John Conyers" Reply-To: notice-reply-8enneuxzr7b5wnj5 at ga3.org To: "Gerald Gras" Dear Gerald, Make sure your neighbors & Members of Congress know the truth about FISA. Write a Letter-to-the-Editor at FixFISA.com! Click here to send a letter-to-the-editor to your hometown paper now. As the chairmen of the U.S. House and Senate Judiciary Committees tasked with modernizing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), we are working hard in Congress to pass a FISA bill that protects our national security, preserves our civil liberties, and denies the Senate's retroactive immunity to phone companies that participated in the Bush-Cheney Administration warrantless surveillance program. Now we're at a critical juncture. The House and Senate have passed different versions of the new FISA legislation, and we are meeting to resolve those differences. The president and his Republican allies are using this opportunity to pressure our colleagues to give in and grant retroactive immunity. President Bush has been irresponsibly making false claims that we are more vulnerable to terrorism until a new bill is passed. That's why we need your help, right now, to push back against the White House while the final FISA bill is being negotiated. Will you write a letter-to-the-editor of your local newspaper to speak out and build grassroots support for fixing FISA the right way? Help us respond to White House scare tactics, preserve our civil liberties, and reject the Senate's telecom immunity. Click here to send a FISA letter-to-the-editor to your hometown paper now. We're pushing back against right-wing pressure. So now the Bush-Cheney Administration is ratcheting up their scare tactics and suggesting that congressional Democrats' efforts to get the FISA bill right this time will invite another terrorist attack. They are trying to scare Congress and the American people into accepting a FISA bill that includes the Senate-passed retroactive telecom immunity and erodes our privacy rights. They've even launched a controversial television ad evoking ticking time-bomb imagery straight out of primetime's 24 to shock the American people into supporting another flawed FISA law. We've seen these tactics before, but we can't let them get away with it this time. We are pushing for a better FISA bill in Congress, but a few loud voices in Washington are more determined than ever to ram through another flawed piece of legislation. Help build grassroots support across America and fight back against the right-wing fear machine: Visit FixFISA.com now. Your letter-to-the-editor will ensure that friends and neighbors in your own community see past the Bush-Cheney Administration's fear-mongering. And when your Members of Congress turn to the editorial page in their hometown newspaper, they'll know where you stand on siding with those who conducted illegal warrantless surveillance. We have teamed up to push for a final FISA bill that protects our national security, preserves our civil liberties, and refuses the Senate-passed retroactive immunity for telecom companies. But we need your support to get this bill passed. Thank you for taking the time to write a letter-to-the-editor of your local newspaper , and for working with us to get FISA right this time. Sincerely, John Conyers Chairman House Judiciary Committee Patrick Leahy Chairman Senate Judiciary Committee Paid for and authorized by Leahy for U.S. Senator Committee, Inc. and Conyers for Congress ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Invite your friends & family to join Leahy for Vermont today! Tell-a-friend! 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Learn about issues such as these at our free lecture series and find out what you can do to make a difference! Sponsors: Acterra: Action for a Sustainable Earth, Planned Parenthood Mar Monte, and the Reproductive Health Technologies Project Title: Early Puberty - Why are Our Girls Growing up so Fast? Date: Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 6:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. Location: Palo Alto Art Center, 1313 Newell Road in Palo Alto, California Description: Join speaker Jeanne Rizzo RN, Executive Director of the Breast Cancer Fund, for a discussion about the environmental and other preventable causes early puberty in girls a nd its connection to breast cancer. Hear about 'The Falling Age of Puberty', important new research from the Breast Cancer Fund that explores the links between increased exposure to environmental toxins, early puberty and reproductive health risks for girls. Learn more about the lecture series, as well as upcoming lectures on April 24 and May 7. For more information, please contact Fran at (408) 297.9255 x232. From wrolley at charter.net Mon Mar 10 21:08:33 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:08:33 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Horizon Message-ID: <47D605C1.50900@charter.net> I have an extra copy of the latest issue of Green Horizon . Anyone want it I will mail it to you. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From rob.means at electric-bikes.com Tue Mar 11 15:59:24 2008 From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:59:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FISA - the protect Bush's butt plan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c883cb$8d65adf0$6401a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Congressman John Conyers is trying to beat back the immunity provision in the FISA law and asked folks to mail letters to their local paper. I sent the following to the Merc. -- FISA - the protect Bush's butt plan The FISA immunity provision is not meant to protect the phone companies. It's to protect the Bush administration. The companies knew they were breaking the law, but their lawyers told them that if sued, they could blame the officials who asked (or threatened) them to break the law. Those government officials are Republicans who violated the Constitution by spying on us. Remember, they started this spying before 9/11 gave them a cover story. This immunity clause is most likely designed to keep President Bush out of jail. -- Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- From tim at alvco.com Tue Mar 11 18:18:43 2008 From: tim at alvco.com (Tim Alvarado) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:18:43 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Planning for a Yard Sale May 17-18/Volunteers Needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47D72F73.3020007@alvco.com> Hi- I can haul away and recycle everything thats left behind. Tim WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: > At last Thursday's monthly GPSCC meeting, I agreed to allow my front > yard to be used for a GPSCC fund raising yard sale Saturday-Sunday May > 17-18th. I said I was not willing to be an organizer and that there > had to be a commitment to remove "leftovers" from my residence at the > end on Sunday. So... That means there need to be volunteers who are > willing to take responsiblity for the following tasks: > > Publicity > Collecting, bringing (and un-bringing) items > Sorting and pricing items > Set up each morning, being present through out each day, and take down > each afternoon > > Reply to this list so we can all know who will be doing what... > > Warner (in the Jampantown neighborhood in San Jose) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Mar 11 22:09:07 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:09:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bad News Message-ID: <47D76573.7050407@earthlink.net> Admiral Fallon has resigned. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/11/usa.israelandthepalestinians Gerry From JamBoi at Greens.org Wed Mar 12 03:30:39 2008 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] It's the "Oh Shit!" Moment on Iran Message-ID: <2275.67.125.20.103.1205317839.squirrel@greens.org> Who knows if this will come to pass, but it IS the right time of year when the weather is optimal for military enterprises in the Middle East. Green is alert! Drew Johnson California It's the "Oh Shit!" Moment on Iran Submitted by dlindorff on Tue, 2008-03-11 22:32. By Dave Lindorff Every horror movie has that "Oh Shit!" moment, when the hero or heroes are huddled in some creepy hideout, and suddenly something happens that tells you that the monster is just around the corner, or just about to attack. In "Jurassic Park" it was the pulsing ripples in a cup of water, heralding the arrival of a T-Rex. In "Jaws" it was the deep base music, letting you know that a monstrous shark was about to attack. Well, we just got our "Oh Shit!" moment with the just-announced resignation of Admiral William J. Fallon, the military commander of US Middle East operations. Adm. Fallon, 63, famously said that an attack on Iran would not happen "on my watch," and is widely believed to have already threatened, along with a number of other top generals and admirals, to quit the service if the Bush administration were to launch an air attack on Iran. Put the pieces together. We know that the vice president is obsessed with a desire to attack Iran, and has been since before he even took office. Bush has repeatedly stressed that Iran cannot be permitted to continue with its nuclear processing (he calls it their "nukular" bomb program, though there is no evidence that the country has a nuclear bomb development program, and in fact the last National Intelligence Estimate on Iran said there was not and hadn't been since 2003). And Fallon has now quit. The Eisenhower nuclear aircraft carrier strike force has departed for stationing off Iran, joining forces already in place there, and loaded to the brim with strike aircraft, Tomahawk missiles, and even nuclear weapons. It was long ago reported that stealth bombers had been put in place in come of the countries of the old Soviet Union north of Iran, as well as on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. All the elements, that is to say, are in place for a massive air assault on Iranian targets, designed to destroy its nuclear program, cripple its military command and control, and--at least this is a stated Cheney goal--to lead to the overthrow of the Iranian government by its own people. It is, of course, the strategy of madmen. The US has no forces to send into Iran. All they can do is bomb it. And bombing a country doesn't lead its people to rise up. It leads them to rally 'round the flag. Especially when the civilian casualties of our not-so-"smart" bombs start to soar. If such an attack were to happen, we can kiss goodbye to six years of domestic peace, such as we've had. The Iranians have considerable capability to inflict damage on US targets of interest, both overseas and here in the domestic US using assymetrical warfare techniques. The worse part is, they'd be completely justified in doing so, since any attack on them would be a crime against peace--the gravest of all international crimes. American troops already mired and pinned down in a war in Iraq, would find themselves suddenly under attack by Shia forces there, who for several years now have been largely leaving them alone. And oil, which just bumped up against $110 a barrel, an all-time record, will double in price overnight, as the whole Persian Gulf becomes a war zone. We can expect massive launches of small boats armed with missiles and torpedoes, as well as sophisticated anti-ship missiles from shore batteries, all fired at US ships in the Gulf, and it would be astounding if some or even many vessels of the US fleet weren't sunk. Meanwhile, tanker traffic in the Gulf, which accounts for 20% or more of the world's oil, will cease as insurance rates for those vessels goes through the roof. The monster of war will be unleashed, and will not easily be defeated. That's why Adm. Fallon was so opposed to the whole idea. He knows that it will be a disaster for the US militarily, economically and politically. The worst part is that Cheney knows this, too. He just doesn't care. This is the man's parting shot as he leaves office--to put the country into the throes of a war so vicious that no one will think of pursuing him for his long list of crimes against the nation and the Constitution. He is guessing--and he may be right--that the American public will, sheep-like as always, rally to the cause, with a new round of yellow magnet "ribbons" on their cars. He is hoping--and he may be right--that war will be a boon for the candidacy of Republican John McCain and for embattled Republicans running for Congress. It's a kind of political Hail Mary. Oh Shit! Here it comes! ______________ DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist and columnist. His latest book is "The Case for Impeachment" (St. Martin's Press, 2006 and now in paperback). His work is available at www.thiscantbehappening.net From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Mar 12 15:13:08 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:13:08 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] An Update on the Growing E-Waste Crisis Message-ID: <47D85574.9080504@aceweb.com> > > James Kao > > > *An Update on the Growing E-Waste Crisis* > > > James Kao, founder, president and CEO of Los Altos-based GreenCitizen, > Inc., an innovator in the responsible recovery, recycling and > accountability of end-of-life electronics last spoke to TASC in the > summer of 2005. Since then, GreenCitizen?s convenient, safe and > accountable solutions to help save the environment from harmful > electronic waste have been widely accepted in Silicon Valley and > San Francisco. > > Every year, an estimated 400 million units of obsolete electronics are > scrapped; this figure will rise to three billion units by 2010. While > advances in technology continue to improve and enrich our lives, > shorter product lifecycles mean an increasing stockpile of end-of-life > equipment that needs to be managed. When discarded, much of this > equipment ends up in landfills in the US, or is exported to third > world countries. This is a global problem and it?s enormous: from > collection, to responsible de-manufacturing, to finding new uses of > the recycled materials, to inventing new sustainable materials that > do not deplete the Earth?s resources or cause toxic harm to the environment. > > James will describe how the activities of GreenCitizen > (www.greencitizen.com) have grown since its founding and why it is as > important as ever that government, enterprise and individuals take a > shared approach to solving this problem. > James Kao is proud of the fact that GreenCitizen is now a money making operation. Every week GreenCitizen takes in two 53 foot truckloads of eWaste and recycle it responsibly. Every computer he sends to Fresno to be responsibly disassembled is one more that doesn't go to Africa or China to be scavenged and the remains left to pollute ground water or burned to pollute the air. GreenCitizen has had enormously good luck with media access. During the three and a half years the company has been around they have spent about $100 on advertising. Word of mouth and press coverage has done a lot to make the company more widely known. The company also does a lot of tabling and speaking in front of community groups to generate visibility. Kao showed us slides of kids playing recycling games GreenCitizen had developed to make eWaste recycling more fun. Over the past few years GreenCitizen has picked up many reputable corporate sponsors, and is always working on getting more. GreenCitizen generates a lot of statistical information about the eWaste they take in. Kao showed us a chart of the most recycled brands, with Apple being number one. He mentioned that the coming digital transition for TV has resulted in a huge rise in the number of TV sets being recycled. It used to be that all the glass, lead, and copper was needed for the next generation of TVs and monitors. One problem is that now that those are being made with LCD screens the lead and glass is no longer as needed. GreenCitizen is part of the industry wide search for new uses for the stuff. GreenCitizen recycles a lot of eWaste from their two offices, but it is only a small percentage of the eWaste out there. The company plans to open offices in Berkeley, San Mateo County, Campbell/Los Gatos, and the Presidio in San Francisco during the next year. They have also developed a kiosk that works inside a big box store, so that customers there can recycle on the premises for store credit. James is excited by the win-win synergies that kind of thing will develop. During Q&A a number of other points came up: GreenCitizen has recently expanded into computer repair. This extends the useful life of many machines. Also, GreenCitizen likes providing computer systems to schools and community groups at very reasonable prices. The company sells such systems with a promise to take it back at the end of its life at no charge. The average American buys ten small transformer containing power supplies every year as part of buying electronic products. James Kao thinks it would be great if these things could be standardized and modularized enough that people could get the power supply only when they needed another one. Green Citizen is working with a number of design firms to make this vision a reality. For more information, please visit: http://greencitizen.com/ -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Monday I fixed the fill valve in my toilet. It only took $10 or so, three trips to OSH, and one to Minton Company on my bicycle. From fredd at freeshell.org Wed Mar 12 17:31:13 2008 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:13 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] DWF GOOD GOVERNMENT Event, March 30 Message-ID: <47D875D1.9080107@freeshell.org> Dear Friends, YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND: The Democratic World Federalists (DWF) Annual GOOD GOVERNMENT Luncheon - Speech WHEN: March 30, 2008; 11:30 am - 2:00 pm WHERE: S.F. Veterans War Memorial Bldg. 401 Van Ness Ave, (at McAllister St.), San Francisco, CA 94102 The GUEST SPEAKER: Cindy Sheehan, Gold Star Mother, anti-war icon, and candidate for U.S. House of Representatives, speaking on, "Can we attain sustainable global peace?" at 12:45 pm. MUSIC & ENTERTAINMENT: by "Annie & the Vets," at 12 Noon COSPONSORS & HOSTS: VFP Chapter 69 and the Bob Basker American Legion Post 315 LUNCHEON BUFFET & PROGRAM: 11:30 am - 12 :30 pm - $18.00 DESSERT, BEVERAGE & PROGRAM: 12:00 Noon - 12:45 pm - $7.00 PROGRAM: 12:45 - 2:00 pm. RESERVATIONS: Call DWF at 415-227-4880; Email dwfed at dwfed.org ; or Mail to DWF, 55 New Montgomery St., Suite 225, San Francisco, CA 94105, by March 24. (Same day-at door luncheon registration depends on availability.) Write checks to DWF. Listing names of each luncheon attendee, addresses and phone numbers will be helpful. From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Mar 12 22:52:09 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:52:09 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Congratulations from Sonoma County for our contested race! Message-ID: <47D8C109.3000602@aceweb.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: FW: [G-C-F] County Council Races Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:19:34 EDT From: Rioryon at aol.com To: tnharter at aceweb.com, prisonpedagogy at comcast.net, sthomas10 at hotmail.com, GPSCcoordinators at yahoogroups.com, sonomagreens at lists.riseup.net, cal-forum at cagreens.org Congratulations Tian, Good work and kudos to Santa Clara County... Sonoma County has 7 seats being contested by 9 candidates, and we would have had 10, but one fellow unfortunately didn't get enough signatures in time... Here are the 9 candidates who will be on the ballot in Sonoma County....: Hally DeCarion Sebastian Baum Amber Mokelke Steve Devereaux Kasey Azevedo Tom Bolema Camille Smith Tim Morgan tim smith Hopefully, there's lots of counties in California with contested elections this time around... Let us all know... Peace/Unity, tim s rioryon at aol.com In a message dated 3/12/2008 4:34:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, prisonpedagogy at comcast.net writes: Do we have all the names to present as Tian did below. Bolema ---------- From: Tian Harter Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:37:26 -0700 To: Green CA forum Subject: [G-C-F] County Council Races Ballot access deadline was last Friday. Here in Santa Clara County we got eight candidates for the seven seats on our County Council. Those are: Andrea Dorey Jim Doyle Gerry Gras Tian Harter Rob Means Wes Rolley Dana StGeorge Caroline Yacoub I am giddy with pleasure that we will be on the ballot June 4th or whenever the election is. My question is, what other Countys have contested races this year? Who are the candidates? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Monday I fixed the fill valve in my toilet. It only took $10 or so, three trips to OSH, and one to Minton Company on my bicycle. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Mar 12 23:39:50 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:39:50 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Together, we can make history - help the Green Party get on the ballot in all states.] Message-ID: <47D8CC36.5030503@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Together, we can make history - help the Green Party get on the ballot in all states. Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:03:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Green Party of the United States Reply-To: scotty at gp.org To: santaclara at cagreens.org Back to GP.org [Green Party] Together, We Can Make History! What will the American voter face at the polls this November: the same two choices they've been faced with for decades -or something new? Will they be able to choose Green? The answer depends on you. The Green Party plans to run 1,000 candidates, from the municipal to federal level this year - more Green Candidates than ever before. Our Ballot Access Committee is working with state Green Parties to make sure the voters can vote Green on their ballot in all 51 states this year. But we need your help to make it a success. We've already shown remarkable success! Last Thursday, the Green Party of Arizona turned in almost 30,000 signatures, far more than needed, to make sure the Green Party will appear on the ballot this fall. This success was possible because of significant financial support from the national Green Party, plus direct donations and tremendous volunteer assistance from Greens across the United States. "With just 3 or 4 weeks to go and only 13,000 signatures in hand, I thought we were doomed to failure!" said Richard Scott, Co-Chair Arizona Ballot Access Committee. "But it was the cooperative efforts of Greens from all over the country both in raising money and in traveling to Arizona to help collect signatures that put us over the top!" said Scott. "I can't thank all the helpers and contributors enough. We will remember this in Arizona and we will be more than willing to help the next state with their ballot drive. This shows just what we can do when we pull together." The success of the Arizona drive provides a model for supporting other drives. Texas and Virginia are our next. With your help, we can do it! Your donation will go towards financial support for state green parties trying to secure ballot lines in 2008 and supporting the goal of running 1,000 Green Party candidates across the United States in 2008. In order to do this, we need to raise money . Half of the money raised will go directly to Ballot Access campaigns and half to support the general fund. The general fund is what keeps the Green Party's doors open, and is also the source of funding for the Coordinated Campaign Committee (CCC). The CCC provides support for Green candidates nationally through campaign schools, candidate trainings, and financial and material support to Green Campaigns. Both the general fund and ballot access fund need to be increased in order to make securing ballot lines and supporting the candidates running on those lines possible. We can't do this without your help. Here's what you can do right now: 1. Donate Today 2. Spread the Word & Let everyone know about this historic struggle. 3. Volunteer to help with ballot access today. 4. And, click the link if you aren't already signed up for GreenLine and Action Alerts from the Green Party. The American public deserves the right to Vote Green this November. The success of Arizona proves that we can make this a reality when we work together. Please help us right now by clicking the donate button below. How Green is Your Ballot? office at gp.org Office: PO Box 57065 Washington, D.C. 20037 202-319-7191 or toll-free (US): 866-41GREEN From andid at cagreens.org Wed Mar 12 18:17:11 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:17:11 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Winter Soldier Hearings II In-Reply-To: <47D34F05.9070503@earthlink.net> References: <47D34F05.9070503@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <40334CBF-E8DF-438A-A5D9-60099F2E7875@cagreens.org> KPFA plans to cover the event for the weekend. FM 94.1 Andrea On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > March 13-16 there will be "Winter Soldier Hearings" about > U.S. soldiers' experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan. > > "Video and photographic evidence will also be presented, and the > Winter > Soldier testimony and panels will be broadcast live on nationally > Pacifica Radio and satellite television station Free Speech TV Channel > 9415. Streaming video on ivaw.org, as well as audio at KPFA.org and > warcomeshome.org will enable people to tune in across the world. > > The War Comes Home site, which I edit and is associated with the San > Francisco Pacifica radio station KPFA, will also feature bios, photos, > and videos of the speakers. Online audio clips of the testimonials > will > be posted as the hearing progresses." > > > http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/08/7556/ > > Gerry > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Thu Mar 13 11:14:15 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:14:15 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GP Concerns? Deadline 3/27!! Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: Date: March 11, 2008 12:31:57 PM PDT Subject: Re: EAA Special Notification Dear Andrea Dorey, On March 27th, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is scheduled to vote on a change to their Zero Emissions Vehicle (ZEV) program that could delay production EVs another decade. The Electric Auto Association urges you to take action to make California aware that you want production EVs back on the roads. We have set up a website to help. The ZEV goals were once 2% in 1998, 3% in 2001, and 10% in 2003, but later the program was put off a decade. Now as the end of that decade draws near, CARB staff proposes to delay another decade. Staff calls for 840 vehicles per year (0.04%) in 2012 through 2014. The old 1998 target is fifty times what is now being proposed for 16 years later. In 2015 CARB proposes only 0.4%. The 2012 goals do not even approach the number of vehicles previously shown to be possible. The EAA does not normally use email except for membership reminders. Because of urgent upcoming decision that may affect EVs to years to come, we are sending this email to ask that you join a low-traffic mailing list that the EAA will use to alert you to developments where your emails, letters, faxes, phone calls, etc. could make a big difference. Participation is optional, but please do consider joining and help us advocate for EVs in important battles, such the one that will be decided on 3/27. For further information about what you can do to let California know you want a meaningful ZEV program, please visit: http://www.eaaev.org/action/ This page also has details on how to join our EV-advocacy mailing list to get future notices. Sincerely, Ron Freund No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1322 - Release Date: 3/9/2008 12:17 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <003301c88587$df282b50$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP> ----- Original Message ----- From: Green Party of the United States To: jimd at greens.org Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Together, we can make history - help the Green Party get on the ballot in all states. Back to GP.org Together, We Can Make History! What will the American voter face at the polls this November: the same two choices they've been faced with for decades -or something new? Will they be able to choose Green? The answer depends on you. The Green Party plans to run 1,000 candidates, from the municipal to federal level this year - more Green Candidates than ever before. Our Ballot Access Committee is working with state Green Parties to make sure the voters can vote Green on their ballot in all 51 states this year. But we need your help to make it a success. We've already shown remarkable success! Last Thursday, the Green Party of Arizona turned in almost 30,000 signatures, far more than needed, to make sure the Green Party will appear on the ballot this fall. This success was possible because of significant financial support from the national Green Party, plus direct donations and tremendous volunteer assistance from Greens across the United States. "With just 3 or 4 weeks to go and only 13,000 signatures in hand, I thought we were doomed to failure!" said Richard Scott, Co-Chair Arizona Ballot Access Committee. "But it was the cooperative efforts of Greens from all over the country both in raising money and in traveling to Arizona to help collect signatures that put us over the top!" said Scott. "I can't thank all the helpers and contributors enough. We will remember this in Arizona and we will be more than willing to help the next state with their ballot drive. This shows just what we can do when we pull together." The success of the Arizona drive provides a model for supporting other drives. Texas and Virginia are our next. With your help, we can do it! Your donation will go towards financial support for state green parties trying to secure ballot lines in 2008 and supporting the goal of running 1,000 Green Party candidates across the United States in 2008. In order to do this, we need to raise money. Half of the money raised will go directly to Ballot Access campaigns and half to support the general fund. The general fund is what keeps the Green Party's doors open, and is also the source of funding for the Coordinated Campaign Committee (CCC). The CCC provides support for Green candidates nationally through campaign schools, candidate trainings, and financial and material support to Green Campaigns. Both the general fund and ballot access fund need to be increased in order to make securing ballot lines and supporting the candidates running on those lines possible. We can't do this without your help. Here's what you can do right now: 1. Donate Today 2. Spread the Word & Let everyone know about this historic struggle. 3. Volunteer to help with ballot access today. 4. And, click the link if you aren't already signed up for GreenLine and Action Alerts from the Green Party. The American public deserves the right to Vote Green this November. The success of Arizona proves that we can make this a reality when we work together. Please help us right now by clicking the donate button below. How Green is Your Ballot? office at gp.org Office: PO Box 57065 Washington, D.C. 20037 202-319-7191 or toll-free (US): 866-41GREEN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Mar 13 22:25:00 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:25:00 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] yard sale In-Reply-To: <47D9F744.1060608@sbcglobal.net> References: <47D9F744.1060608@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <47DA0C2C.80308@aceweb.com> I can show up later than that with a box of stuff, or I can bring boxes one or two at a time on the light rail for as long as you want more books. For me bringing a box every time I go to San Jose would work better than waiting until the last minute... Jim Doyle wrote: > I can bring a few items from our garage early > Saturday morning May 17-th and stay for a while, 2-3 hours. > > Jim Doyle > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Monday I fixed the fill valve in my toilet. It only took $10 or so, three trips to OSH, and one to Minton Company on my bicycle. From spinnstr at wrytor.com Wed Mar 12 16:50:14 2008 From: spinnstr at wrytor.com (spinnstr at wrytor.com) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: EAA Special Notice - GP Concerns? - Deadline 3/37!!! References: <7A0EB04B-9B5E-47B3-BBFB-9BC01C2652B9@wrytor.com> Message-ID: <6F4271CF-0178-4B08-B44D-9F721104BD01@wrytor.com> Begin forwarded message: > > Date: March 11, 2008 12:31:57 PM PDT > Subject: Re: EAA Special Notification > >> Dear Andrea Dorey, >> >> On March 27th, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is >> scheduled to vote on a change to their Zero Emissions Vehicle >> (ZEV) program that could delay production EVs another decade. The >> Electric Auto Association urges you to take action to make >> California aware that you want production EVs back on the roads. >> We have set up a website to help. The ZEV goals were once 2% in >> 1998, 3% in 2001, and 10% in 2003, but later the program was put >> off a decade. >> >> Now as the end of that decade draws near, CARB staff proposes to >> delay another decade. Staff calls for 840 vehicles per year >> (0.04%) in 2012 through 2014. The old 1998 target is fifty times >> what is now being proposed for 16 years later. In 2015 CARB >> proposes only 0.4%. The 2012 goals do not even approach the number >> of vehicles previously shown to be possible. >> >> The EAA does not normally use email except for membership >> reminders. Because of urgent upcoming decision that may affect >> EVs to years to come, we are sending this email to ask that you >> join a low-traffic mailing list that the EAA will use to alert you >> to developments where your emails, letters, faxes, phone calls, >> etc. could make a big difference. Participation is optional, but >> please do consider joining and help us advocate for EVs in >> important battles, such the one that will be decided on 3/27. >> >> For further information about what you can do to let California >> know you want a meaningful ZEV program, please visit: >> >> http://www.eaaev.org/action/ >> >> This page also has details on how to join our EV-advocacy mailing >> list to get future notices. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> Ron Freund >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1322 - Release Date: >> 3/9/2008 12:17 PM >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Fri Mar 14 14:50:06 2008 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us) Date: 14 Mar 2008 21:50:06 -0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Berryessa Art and Wine invitation Message-ID: <20080314215006.10293.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> I just received our annual invite. There's no fee. They want us set up by 9:30 am Sat. May 10. Festival runs 10 am to 5 pm. Last year most of the music acts were pretty good. Tabling season in a prez election year! don't miss the fun! Cameron From andid at cagreens.org Fri Mar 14 16:50:39 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:50:39 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] It's the "Oh Shit!" Moment on Iran In-Reply-To: <2275.67.125.20.103.1205317839.squirrel@greens.org> References: <2275.67.125.20.103.1205317839.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <5266B54B-0A64-4329-B769-CEE02BF4537D@cagreens.org> A classic method to retain the White House by the invading administration?because of a "crisis." Real bad news that they have begun to seriously remove any roadblocks. Andrea On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Drew Johnson wrote: > Who knows if this will come to pass, but it IS the right time of > year when > the weather is optimal for military enterprises in the Middle East. > > Green is alert! > > Drew Johnson > California > > > It's the "Oh Shit!" Moment on Iran > Submitted by dlindorff on Tue, 2008-03-11 22:32. > > By Dave Lindorff > > Every horror movie has that "Oh Shit!" moment, when the hero or > heroes are > huddled in some creepy hideout, and suddenly something happens that > tells > you that the monster is just around the corner, or just about to > attack. > In "Jurassic Park" it was the pulsing ripples in a cup of water, > heralding > the arrival of a T-Rex. In "Jaws" it was the deep base music, > letting you > know that a monstrous shark was about to attack. > > Well, we just got our "Oh Shit!" moment with the just-announced > resignation of Admiral William J. Fallon, the military commander of US > Middle East operations. > > Adm. Fallon, 63, famously said that an attack on Iran would not > happen "on > my watch," and is widely believed to have already threatened, along > with a > number of other top generals and admirals, to quit the service if > the Bush > administration were to launch an air attack on Iran. > > Put the pieces together. We know that the vice president is > obsessed with > a desire to attack Iran, and has been since before he even took > office. > Bush has repeatedly stressed that Iran cannot be permitted to continue > with its nuclear processing (he calls it their "nukular" bomb program, > though there is no evidence that the country has a nuclear bomb > development program, and in fact the last National Intelligence > Estimate > on Iran said there was not and hadn't been since 2003). And Fallon > has now > quit. > > The Eisenhower nuclear aircraft carrier strike force has departed for > stationing off Iran, joining forces already in place there, and > loaded to > the brim with strike aircraft, Tomahawk missiles, and even nuclear > weapons. It was long ago reported that stealth bombers had been put in > place in come of the countries of the old Soviet Union north of > Iran, as > well as on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. > > All the elements, that is to say, are in place for a massive air > assault > on Iranian targets, designed to destroy its nuclear program, > cripple its > military command and control, and--at least this is a stated Cheney > goal--to lead to the overthrow of the Iranian government by its own > people. > > It is, of course, the strategy of madmen. > > The US has no forces to send into Iran. All they can do is bomb it. > And > bombing a country doesn't lead its people to rise up. It leads them to > rally 'round the flag. Especially when the civilian casualties of our > not-so-"smart" bombs start to soar. > > If such an attack were to happen, we can kiss goodbye to six years of > domestic peace, such as we've had. The Iranians have considerable > capability to inflict damage on US targets of interest, both > overseas and > here in the domestic US using assymetrical warfare techniques. The > worse > part is, they'd be completely justified in doing so, since any > attack on > them would be a crime against peace--the gravest of all international > crimes. > > American troops already mired and pinned down in a war in Iraq, > would find > themselves suddenly under attack by Shia forces there, who for several > years now have been largely leaving them alone. > > And oil, which just bumped up against $110 a barrel, an all-time > record, > will double in price overnight, as the whole Persian Gulf becomes a > war > zone. > > We can expect massive launches of small boats armed with missiles and > torpedoes, as well as sophisticated anti-ship missiles from shore > batteries, all fired at US ships in the Gulf, and it would be > astounding > if some or even many vessels of the US fleet weren't sunk. > > Meanwhile, tanker traffic in the Gulf, which accounts for 20% or > more of > the world's oil, will cease as insurance rates for those vessels goes > through the roof. > > The monster of war will be unleashed, and will not easily be defeated. > That's why Adm. Fallon was so opposed to the whole idea. He knows > that it > will be a disaster for the US militarily, economically and > politically. > > The worst part is that Cheney knows this, too. He just doesn't > care. This > is the man's parting shot as he leaves office--to put the country > into the > throes of a war so vicious that no one will think of pursuing him > for his > long list of crimes against the nation and the Constitution. > > He is guessing--and he may be right--that the American public will, > sheep-like as always, rally to the cause, with a new round of yellow > magnet "ribbons" on their cars. He is hoping--and he may be right-- > that > war will be a boon for the candidacy of Republican John McCain and for > embattled Republicans running for Congress. > > It's a kind of political Hail Mary. > > Oh Shit! Here it comes! > ______________ > DAVE LINDORFF is a Philadelphia-based journalist and columnist. His > latest > book is "The Case for Impeachment" (St. Martin's Press, 2006 and > now in > paperback). His work is available at www.thiscantbehappening.net > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 14 17:01:55 2008 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Stay the course of American foreign policy? No. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <805543.93091.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Obama won't change the imperialist American foreign policy: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080314/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pastor This just goes to show that hoping that Obama will bring change is audacious. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! 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(This, in spite of the fact that Tesla Motors is starting their delivery of their hot new roadster energized entirely by lithium batteries, 0-60 in 3 seconds, 200 miles or more between recharges. DC recently stated that California does not have "special circumstances" that require a higher standard set than that of the Federal's. (Really? Aren't we the state with the highest pollution levels due in part to excesses by agribusiness?) Interesting, isn't it? Once we celebrated when a state not only obeyed the Federal standard but over and above it. Now the states are being constrained by those standards. BTW, ZEV includes the Fuel Cell cars which to date require 6 barrels of oil to produce the hydrogen that will replace one barrel of oil. It's strange, but at the heart of any alternative energy car is an electric car that outperforms ANY other system added to it: whether fuel cell, biodiesel, methane, internal combustion engine, etc. The energy delivery corporations would rather bury us in tar than see any of us drive electric cars using virtually free energy from the sun from our PV-tiled roofs. Even Toyota, with its successful Prius hybrid, refuses to create a plug-in attachment to change your hybrid into a part-time electric car, easily capable of driving at least 40 miles on its electrics. We now have 7 of those Prius hybrids, adapted with plug-in capability by EAA members, happily driving around the Bay Area with "100 miles+" painted on their sides. Well, Toyota???? Andi On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > Andrea Dorey forwarded the note below... > > If I were one to be cynical, I might suggest that there was a > relationship between the fact that the California Air Resources > Board Chairman, Mary Nichols is married to a lawyer who represents > EXXON Chevron and the action described below...but then I am not > cynical. > > I might also suggest that there was a relationship between this > action and Mary Nichols' holdings in 13 Energy Companies (Chevron > holdings over $100K) as reported in the SF Chornicle last > August.... but then I am not cynical. > > Still it is obvious what Mary Nichols meant when, in her letter to > Schwarzenegger accepting the post... "instructions to ARB staff for > modifications to encourage the production and use of electric and > plug-in hybrid electric vehicles..." but I am not cynical. > > No, I am not cynical. I am pissed off that such GreenWashing is > accepted and that this mis-use of the word "green" should be an > embarrassment to the Green Party. > > Wes >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> Date: March 11, 2008 12:31:57 PM PDT >> Subject: Re: EAA Special Notification >> >> Dear Andrea Dorey, >> >> On March 27th, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is >> scheduled to vote on a change to their Zero Emissions Vehicle >> (ZEV) program that could delay production EVs another decade. The >> Electric Auto Association urges you to take action to make >> California aware that you want production EVs back on the roads. >> We have set up a website to help. The ZEV goals were once 2% in >> 1998, 3% in 2001, and 10% in 2003, but later the program was put >> off a decade. >> >> Now as the end of that decade draws near, CARB staff proposes to >> delay another decade. Staff calls for 840 vehicles per year >> (0.04%) in 2012 through 2014. The old 1998 target is fifty times >> what is now being proposed for 16 years later. In 2015 CARB >> proposes only 0.4%. The 2012 goals do not even approach the number >> of vehicles previously shown to be possible. >> >> The EAA does not normally use email except for membership >> reminders. Because of urgent upcoming decision that may affect >> EVs to years to come, we are sending this email to ask that you >> join a low-traffic mailing list that the EAA will use to alert you >> to developments where your emails, letters, faxes, phone calls, >> etc. could make a big difference. Participation is optional, but >> please do consider joining and help us advocate for EVs in >> important battles, such the one that will be decided on 3/27. >> >> For further information about what you can do to let California >> know you want a meaningful ZEV program, please visit: >> >> http://www.eaaev.org/action/ >> >> This page also has details on how to join our EV-advocacy mailing >> list to get future notices. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> >> Ron Freund >> >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1322 - Release Date: >> 3/9/2008 12:17 PM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you > don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Fri Mar 14 19:12:27 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:12:27 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Winter Soldier Hearings II - Ongoing on FM 94.1! In-Reply-To: <40334CBF-E8DF-438A-A5D9-60099F2E7875@cagreens.org> References: <47D34F05.9070503@earthlink.net> <40334CBF-E8DF-438A-A5D9-60099F2E7875@cagreens.org> Message-ID: <7E94E911-23B4-4FE2-952D-F8BD45FECC46@cagreens.org> KPFA began at 6 AM today (Friday) and plans to follow the hearing on Saturday and Sunday. I listened to part of it, and it was pretty much delivering interesting facts, except for a few touching testimonies by tearful soldiers who regretted their part, whether deliberate or mistaken, in unnecessary civilian deaths. Andi On Mar 12, 2008, at 6:17 PM, Andrea Dorey wrote: > KPFA plans to cover the event for the weekend. > FM 94.1 > Andrea > > On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > >> >> March 13-16 there will be "Winter Soldier Hearings" about >> U.S. soldiers' experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan. >> >> "Video and photographic evidence will also be presented, and the >> Winter >> Soldier testimony and panels will be broadcast live on nationally >> Pacifica Radio and satellite television station Free Speech TV >> Channel >> 9415. Streaming video on ivaw.org, as well as audio at KPFA.org and >> warcomeshome.org will enable people to tune in across the world. >> >> The War Comes Home site, which I edit and is associated with the San >> Francisco Pacifica radio station KPFA, will also feature bios, >> photos, >> and videos of the speakers. Online audio clips of the testimonials >> will >> be posted as the hearing progresses." >> >> >> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/08/7556/ >> >> Gerry >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From tim at alvco.com Sun Mar 16 11:30:34 2008 From: tim at alvco.com (Tim Alvarado) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:30:34 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Planning for a Yard Sale May 17-18/Volunteers Needed In-Reply-To: <47D72F73.3020007@alvco.com> References: <47D72F73.3020007@alvco.com> Message-ID: <47DD674A.7070707@alvco.com> What is the address of the yard sale? Tim 408.279.5531 Tim Alvarado wrote: > Hi- I can haul away and recycle everything thats left behind. Tim > > WB4D23 at aol.com wrote: > >> At last Thursday's monthly GPSCC meeting, I agreed to allow my front >> yard to be used for a GPSCC fund raising yard sale Saturday-Sunday May >> 17-18th. I said I was not willing to be an organizer and that there >> had to be a commitment to remove "leftovers" from my residence at the >> end on Sunday. So... That means there need to be volunteers who are >> willing to take responsiblity for the following tasks: >> >> Publicity >> Collecting, bringing (and un-bringing) items >> Sorting and pricing items >> Set up each morning, being present through out each day, and take down >> each afternoon >> >> Reply to this list so we can all know who will be doing what... >> >> Warner (in the Jampantown neighborhood in San Jose) >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > From andid at cagreens.org Sun Mar 16 16:48:05 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:48:05 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] An Update on the Growing E-Waste Crisis In-Reply-To: <47DB61EF.6080407@aceweb.com> References: <47D85574.9080504@aceweb.com> <3B07423E-BD62-4D02-9C49-EB2E1AFD1EA4@cagreens.org> <47DB61EF.6080407@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <721B2B39-535B-4E8B-B52B-89345ED8441F@cagreens.org> Tian, I think I got you beat. I just remembered that I have the very first TV we bought in 1962; it's a Zenith color TV, has all its original tubes (yes, tubes!), and is in a piece of real furniture that closes up to hide the TV! Back then, we actually turned the TV off when company came or we had something better to do like eat, talk, or go out somewhere! Last time I turned it on to test it, it worked! (That was about 10 years ago.) Andrea On Mar 14, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > I should try to boot my Atari 520 ST and see what happens.... > > Andrea Dorey wrote: >> OK, will people stop laughing at me now because I have my first >> typewriter that I used in college, and my first Mac?now 20 years >> old? ;- ) >> A. >> On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Tian Harter wrote: >>>> >>>> James Kao >>>> >>>> >>>> *An Update on the Growing E-Waste Crisis* >>>> >>>> >>>> James Kao, founder, president and CEO of Los Altos-based >>>> GreenCitizen, >>>> Inc., an innovator in the responsible recovery, recycling and >>>> accountability of end-of-life electronics last spoke to TASC in the >>>> summer of 2005. Since then, GreenCitizen?s convenient, safe and >>>> accountable solutions to help save the environment from harmful >>>> electronic waste have been widely accepted in Silicon Valley and >>>> San Francisco. >>>> >>>> Every year, an estimated 400 million units of obsolete >>>> electronics are >>>> scrapped; this figure will rise to three billion units by 2010. >>>> While >>>> advances in technology continue to improve and enrich our lives, >>>> shorter product lifecycles mean an increasing stockpile of end- >>>> of-life >>>> equipment that needs to be managed. When discarded, much of this >>>> equipment ends up in landfills in the US, or is exported to third >>>> world countries. This is a global problem and it?s enormous: from >>>> collection, to responsible de-manufacturing, to finding new uses of >>>> the recycled materials, to inventing new sustainable materials that >>>> do not deplete the Earth?s resources or cause toxic harm to the >>> environment. >>>> >>>> James will describe how the activities of GreenCitizen >>>> (www.greencitizen.com) have grown since its founding and why it >>>> is as >>>> important as ever that government, enterprise and individuals >>>> take a >>>> shared approach to solving this problem. >>>> >>> James Kao is proud of the fact that GreenCitizen is now a money >>> making >>> operation. Every week GreenCitizen takes in two 53 foot >>> truckloads of >>> eWaste and recycle it responsibly. Every computer he sends to Fresno >>> to be responsibly disassembled is one more that doesn't go to Africa >>> or China to be scavenged and the remains left to pollute ground >>> water >>> or burned to pollute the air. >>> >>> GreenCitizen has had enormously good luck with media access. >>> During the >>> three and a half years the company has been around they have >>> spent about >>> $100 on advertising. Word of mouth and press coverage has done a >>> lot to >>> make the company more widely known. The company also does a lot of >>> tabling and speaking in front of community groups to generate >>> visibility. >>> Kao showed us slides of kids playing recycling games GreenCitizen >>> had >>> developed to make eWaste recycling more fun. Over the past few >>> years >>> GreenCitizen has picked up many reputable corporate sponsors, and is >>> always working on getting more. >>> >>> GreenCitizen generates a lot of statistical information about the >>> eWaste >>> they take in. Kao showed us a chart of the most recycled brands, >>> with >>> Apple being number one. He mentioned that the coming digital >>> transition >>> for TV has resulted in a huge rise in the number of TV sets being >>> recycled. It used to be that all the glass, lead, and copper was >>> needed >>> for the next generation of TVs and monitors. One problem is that now >>> that those are being made with LCD screens the lead and glass is no >>> longer as needed. GreenCitizen is part of the industry wide >>> search for >>> new uses for the stuff. >>> >>> GreenCitizen recycles a lot of eWaste from their two offices, but >>> it is >>> only a small percentage of the eWaste out there. The company >>> plans to >>> open offices in Berkeley, San Mateo County, Campbell/Los Gatos, >>> and the >>> Presidio in San Francisco during the next year. They have also >>> developed >>> a kiosk that works inside a big box store, so that customers >>> there can >>> recycle on the premises for store credit. James is excited by the >>> win-win synergies that kind of thing will develop. >>> >>> During Q&A a number of other points came up: >>> >>> GreenCitizen has recently expanded into computer repair. This >>> extends >>> the useful life of many machines. Also, GreenCitizen likes providing >>> computer systems to schools and community groups at very reasonable >>> prices. The company sells such systems with a promise to take it >>> back at >>> the end of its life at no charge. >>> >>> The average American buys ten small transformer containing power >>> supplies every year as part of buying electronic products. James Kao >>> thinks it would be great if these things could be standardized and >>> modularized enough that people could get the power supply only >>> when they >>> needed another one. Green Citizen is working with a number of design >>> firms to make this vision a reality. >>> >>> For more information, please visit: >>> >>> http://greencitizen.com/ >>> >>> --Tian >>> http://tian.greens.org >>> Monday I fixed the fill valve in my toilet. It only took $10 or >>> so, three trips to OSH, and one to Minton Company on my bicycle. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> > > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > Monday I fixed the fill valve in my toilet. It only took $10 or > so, three trips to OSH, and one to Minton Company on my bicycle. > From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Mar 16 17:12:37 2008 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:12:37 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] An Update on the Growing E-Waste Crisis In-Reply-To: <721B2B39-535B-4E8B-B52B-89345ED8441F@cagreens.org> References: <47D85574.9080504@aceweb.com> <3B07423E-BD62-4D02-9C49-EB2E1AFD1EA4@cagreens.org> <47DB61EF.6080407@aceweb.com> <721B2B39-535B-4E8B-B52B-89345ED8441F@cagreens.org> Message-ID: I've got an idea for reducing computer e-waste. I'd like to see the use of upgradable CPU/clock modules, I/O modules, and North and South Bridge modules so a machine could be upgraded without needing a new motherboard, case, and power supply. I'd pay a price and performance tax for such a green layout. When I upgrade my modules I could then sell the used ones on ebay to someone who can use them. It would be far more efficient to collect, test, and ship these used modules than to go through discarded computers trying to figure out which ones still work. Brian > From: andid at cagreens.org > Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:48:05 -0700 > To: tnharter at aceweb.com > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] An Update on the Growing E-Waste Crisis > > Tian, I think I got you beat. > > I just remembered that I have the very first TV we bought in 1962; > it's a Zenith color TV, has all its original tubes (yes, tubes!), and > is in a piece of real furniture that closes up to hide the TV! Back > then, we actually turned the TV off when company came or we had > something better to do like eat, talk, or go out somewhere! > Last time I turned it on to test it, it worked! (That was about 10 > years ago.) > Andrea > > On Mar 14, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > > > I should try to boot my Atari 520 ST and see what happens.... > > > > Andrea Dorey wrote: > >> OK, will people stop laughing at me now because I have my first > >> typewriter that I used in college, and my first Mac?now 20 years > >> old? ;- ) > >> A. > >> On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:13 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > >>>> > >>>> James Kao > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *An Update on the Growing E-Waste Crisis* > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> James Kao, founder, president and CEO of Los Altos-based > >>>> GreenCitizen, > >>>> Inc., an innovator in the responsible recovery, recycling and > >>>> accountability of end-of-life electronics last spoke to TASC in the > >>>> summer of 2005. Since then, GreenCitizen?s convenient, safe and > >>>> accountable solutions to help save the environment from harmful > >>>> electronic waste have been widely accepted in Silicon Valley and > >>>> San Francisco. > >>>> > >>>> Every year, an estimated 400 million units of obsolete > >>>> electronics are > >>>> scrapped; this figure will rise to three billion units by 2010. > >>>> While > >>>> advances in technology continue to improve and enrich our lives, > >>>> shorter product lifecycles mean an increasing stockpile of end- > >>>> of-life > >>>> equipment that needs to be managed. When discarded, much of this > >>>> equipment ends up in landfills in the US, or is exported to third > >>>> world countries. This is a global problem and it?s enormous: from > >>>> collection, to responsible de-manufacturing, to finding new uses of > >>>> the recycled materials, to inventing new sustainable materials that > >>>> do not deplete the Earth?s resources or cause toxic harm to the > >>> environment. > >>>> > >>>> James will describe how the activities of GreenCitizen > >>>> (www.greencitizen.com) have grown since its founding and why it > >>>> is as > >>>> important as ever that government, enterprise and individuals > >>>> take a > >>>> shared approach to solving this problem. > >>>> > >>> James Kao is proud of the fact that GreenCitizen is now a money > >>> making > >>> operation. Every week GreenCitizen takes in two 53 foot > >>> truckloads of > >>> eWaste and recycle it responsibly. Every computer he sends to Fresno > >>> to be responsibly disassembled is one more that doesn't go to Africa > >>> or China to be scavenged and the remains left to pollute ground > >>> water > >>> or burned to pollute the air. > >>> > >>> GreenCitizen has had enormously good luck with media access. > >>> During the > >>> three and a half years the company has been around they have > >>> spent about > >>> $100 on advertising. Word of mouth and press coverage has done a > >>> lot to > >>> make the company more widely known. The company also does a lot of > >>> tabling and speaking in front of community groups to generate > >>> visibility. > >>> Kao showed us slides of kids playing recycling games GreenCitizen > >>> had > >>> developed to make eWaste recycling more fun. Over the past few > >>> years > >>> GreenCitizen has picked up many reputable corporate sponsors, and is > >>> always working on getting more. > >>> > >>> GreenCitizen generates a lot of statistical information about the > >>> eWaste > >>> they take in. Kao showed us a chart of the most recycled brands, > >>> with > >>> Apple being number one. He mentioned that the coming digital > >>> transition > >>> for TV has resulted in a huge rise in the number of TV sets being > >>> recycled. It used to be that all the glass, lead, and copper was > >>> needed > >>> for the next generation of TVs and monitors. One problem is that now > >>> that those are being made with LCD screens the lead and glass is no > >>> longer as needed. GreenCitizen is part of the industry wide > >>> search for > >>> new uses for the stuff. > >>> > >>> GreenCitizen recycles a lot of eWaste from their two offices, but > >>> it is > >>> only a small percentage of the eWaste out there. The company > >>> plans to > >>> open offices in Berkeley, San Mateo County, Campbell/Los Gatos, > >>> and the > >>> Presidio in San Francisco during the next year. They have also > >>> developed > >>> a kiosk that works inside a big box store, so that customers > >>> there can > >>> recycle on the premises for store credit. James is excited by the > >>> win-win synergies that kind of thing will develop. > >>> > >>> During Q&A a number of other points came up: > >>> > >>> GreenCitizen has recently expanded into computer repair. This > >>> extends > >>> the useful life of many machines. Also, GreenCitizen likes providing > >>> computer systems to schools and community groups at very reasonable > >>> prices. The company sells such systems with a promise to take it > >>> back at > >>> the end of its life at no charge. > >>> > >>> The average American buys ten small transformer containing power > >>> supplies every year as part of buying electronic products. James Kao > >>> thinks it would be great if these things could be standardized and > >>> modularized enough that people could get the power supply only > >>> when they > >>> needed another one. Green Citizen is working with a number of design > >>> firms to make this vision a reality. > >>> > >>> For more information, please visit: > >>> > >>> http://greencitizen.com/ > >>> > >>> --Tian > >>> http://tian.greens.org > >>> Monday I fixed the fill valve in my toilet. It only took $10 or > >>> so, three trips to OSH, and one to Minton Company on my bicycle. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list > >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > >>> > > > > -- > > Tian > > http://tian.greens.org > > Monday I fixed the fill valve in my toilet. It only took $10 or > > so, three trips to OSH, and one to Minton Company on my bicycle. > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Sun Mar 16 22:55:00 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:55:00 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: GP Concerns? Deadline 3/27!! EPA is Negative too! References: <44775F41-C22D-462A-8CDF-DAFF477ECE88@cagreens.org> Message-ID: Wes, Here's another interesting fact from Barbara Boxer: ---------------- Slowly but surely, we're getting to the truth behind Bush EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson's terrible decision to block an effort by California and 18 other states to fight global warming. While carefully peeling back white tape on redacted documents -- and with EPA personnel peering over their shoulders -- staffers from the Senate Environment & Public Works Committee have been closely reviewing additional documents dribbled out from the EPA over the past few weeks. And what have we learned? Administrator Stephen Johnson clearly overruled the unanimous recommendations of his legal and technical staff who advised him to grant California's waiver request to regulate greenhouse gas emissions -- putting partisan politics ahead of science, the law, and the health & safety of the American people. Begin forwarded message: > From: Andrea Dorey > Date: March 14, 2008 7:08:16 PM PDT > To: wrolley at charter.net > Cc: Green Discuss > Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] GP Concerns? Deadline 3/27!! > > Wes, > The EAA (Electric Auto Assn) has been very successful in heading > off proposed cut backs in Zero Emissions in the past by attending > hearings and testifying, but this latest proposal looks like a > tough one, meant to "disappear" electric cars, unless we can get > the public to get enraged about these continuous attacks on the > Zero Emissions standards that California has attempted to set in > spite of the ARB, the EPA, and Washington, D.C. (This, in spite > of the fact that Tesla Motors is starting their delivery of their > hot new roadster energized entirely by lithium batteries, 0-60 in 3 > seconds, 200 miles or more between recharges. > > DC recently stated that California does not have "special > circumstances" that require a higher standard set than that of the > Federal's. (Really? Aren't we the state with the highest > pollution levels due in part to excesses by agribusiness?) > > Interesting, isn't it? Once we celebrated when a state not only > obeyed the Federal standard but over and above it. Now the states > are being constrained by those standards. > > BTW, ZEV includes the Fuel Cell cars which to date require 6 > barrels of oil to produce the hydrogen that will replace one barrel > of oil. It's strange, but at the heart of any alternative energy > car is an electric car that outperforms ANY other system added to > it: whether fuel cell, biodiesel, methane, internal combustion > engine, etc. > > The energy delivery corporations would rather bury us in tar than > see any of us drive electric cars using virtually free energy from > the sun from our PV-tiled roofs. Even Toyota, with its successful > Prius hybrid, refuses to create a plug-in attachment to change your > hybrid into a part-time electric car, easily capable of driving at > least 40 miles on its electrics. We now have 7 of those Prius > hybrids, adapted with plug-in capability by EAA members, happily > driving around the Bay Area with "100 miles+" painted on their > sides. Well, Toyota???? > Andi > > On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > >> Andrea Dorey forwarded the note below... >> >> If I were one to be cynical, I might suggest that there was a >> relationship between the fact that the California Air Resources >> Board Chairman, Mary Nichols is married to a lawyer who represents >> EXXON Chevron and the action described below...but then I am not >> cynical. >> >> I might also suggest that there was a relationship between this >> action and Mary Nichols' holdings in 13 Energy Companies (Chevron >> holdings over $100K) as reported in the SF Chornicle last >> August.... but then I am not cynical. >> >> Still it is obvious what Mary Nichols meant when, in her letter to >> Schwarzenegger accepting the post... "instructions to ARB staff >> for modifications to encourage the production and use of electric >> and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles..." but I am not cynical. >> >> No, I am not cynical. I am pissed off that such GreenWashing is >> accepted and that this mis-use of the word "green" should be an >> embarrassment to the Green Party. >> >> Wes >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> Date: March 11, 2008 12:31:57 PM PDT >>> Subject: Re: EAA Special Notification >>> >>> Dear Andrea Dorey, >>> >>> On March 27th, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is >>> scheduled to vote on a change to their Zero Emissions Vehicle >>> (ZEV) program that could delay production EVs another decade. >>> The Electric Auto Association urges you to take action to make >>> California aware that you want production EVs back on the roads. >>> We have set up a website to help. The ZEV goals were once 2% in >>> 1998, 3% in 2001, and 10% in 2003, but later the program was put >>> off a decade. >>> >>> Now as the end of that decade draws near, CARB staff proposes to >>> delay another decade. Staff calls for 840 vehicles per year >>> (0.04%) in 2012 through 2014. The old 1998 target is fifty times >>> what is now being proposed for 16 years later. In 2015 CARB >>> proposes only 0.4%. The 2012 goals do not even approach the >>> number of vehicles previously shown to be possible. >>> >>> The EAA does not normally use email except for membership >>> reminders. Because of urgent upcoming decision that may affect >>> EVs to years to come, we are sending this email to ask that you >>> join a low-traffic mailing list that the EAA will use to alert >>> you to developments where your emails, letters, faxes, phone >>> calls, etc. could make a big difference. Participation is >>> optional, but please do consider joining and help us advocate for >>> EVs in important battles, such the one that will be decided on 3/27. >>> >>> For further information about what you can do to let California >>> know you want a meaningful ZEV program, please visit: >>> >>> http://www.eaaev.org/action/ >>> >>> This page also has details on how to join our EV-advocacy mailing >>> list to get future notices. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> >>> Ron Freund >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1322 - Release Date: >>> 3/9/2008 12:17 PM >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> >> >> >> -- >> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you >> don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente >> >> Wes Rolley >> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 >> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've never seen a better illustration of the major duopoly, have you??? ;- )) Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: The Divided We Fail Team > Subject: Tell Congress - No More Gridlock > > > Take the Pledge Share Your Thoughts Tell A Friend Volunteer > Take the Pledge > Share Your Story > Tell a Friend > Volunteer > > > Dear Richard, > > As you read this, Senator Feinstein, Senator Boxer, and > Representative Honda - your members of Congress - are just getting > back to Washington, DC, after a week-long President's Day recess. > > You may have already seen them rallying support around town for > this year's election, but you can also rally their support by > making sure that they don't return to the Hill empty handed. > > We're asking every member of Congress to sign the "Divided We Fail" > petition which asks our nation's leaders to commit to working in a > bipartisan way to provide Americans with actions and answers on > health and lifetime financial security. > > Help us get their attention TODAY while they are in your district! > > Click here to tell Senators Feinstein and Boxer and Representative > Honda to sign the Divided We Fail Congressional Pledge to ensure > that every American has access to quality, affordable health care > and lifetime financial security! > > By signing the Pledge, your members of Congress are promising to > work across party lines to end legislative stalemates. They are > giving their word to support or sponsor legislation that will enact > policies that reduce health care costs, strengthen Social Security > to treat all generations fairly, and provide Americans with greater > access to retirement plans. > > So far, over 220 members have signed the pledge or written letters > supporting the Divided We Fail platform - but we need all members > to sign to create a united front. We need all of your members of > Congress to support the Pledge and give Americans peace of mind > when it comes to their future. > > Will you help? > > Click here to tell your members of Congress to sign the Pledge now > and to end partisan gridlock. > > With your help, Americans will finally achieve long-term financial > security and get the health care they need. > > Once you have sent your message, help us get as many messages as > possible into Congress by forwarding this message to your friends > and family asking them to also encourage their members of Congress > to sign the Divided We Fail pledge. > > Thank you for your support! > > Sincerely, > The Divided We Fail Team > > > About AARP > > 601 E Street, NW, Washington, DC 20049 > > If you would like to remove your name from AARP's Divided We Fail e- > mail list, simply click Click here to unsubscribe.. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Christina Olague and Larry Mullen, CC Cocos -------------------------- The agenda packet and logistics packet for the April 5-6 General Assembly in Alameda are now available for downloading from the plenary web site: http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ You will need the common password for access. Please contact your County Council or Regional Representative if you don't have it. This agenda packet contains proposals, the schedule and county delegate allocation. Please read it ASAP. If you have concerns about any proposal, please send them to the people listed as the contact persons and/or sponsors *before* the meeting begins. The logistics packet contains information on the meeting site, housing, registration and host contacts. Online registration will open on Sunday Mar, 16. NOTE: Counties are also required to submit their list of General Assembly delegates online. Use the Delegates link on the plenary page cited above. Online registration and delegate submission closes on Wednesday April 2. You may participate in this important event in a number of ways: At the General Assembly - as a delegate or a observer in the decision-making plenary sessions and/or - as participant in working group, standing committee and/or caucus meetings Before the General Assembly - with a working group or standing committee that is generating a proposal - discussing the agenda proposals in your county and on-line We hope to see you in Alameda! _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From jims at greens.org Tue Mar 18 20:08:10 2008 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:08:10 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA Official Notice] Agenda Packet Addendum] Message-ID: <47E0839A.5030005@greens.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Agenda Packet Addendum Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:01:48 -0800 From: County Contacts Reply-To: contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org To: County Contacts GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The proposal write-up that introduces the GPCA budget (on page 13) is missing from the agenda packet. If you have already downloaded the agenda packet, please return to http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/packet.html and download this important addendum. _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From andid at cagreens.org Wed Mar 19 08:19:34 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:19:34 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Latest Offer to the Undocumented Message-ID: Just heard this AM on Democracy Now that immigrants who came to US when under 16 can become citizens if they take either two years of college (yeah, undocumented workers can afford that!) or enlist in the military. I guess they need meat for the Pentagon machine. What's next? Commuting or shortening sentences for prisoners if they join the military? From WB4D23 at aol.com Wed Mar 19 11:15:00 2008 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:15:00 EDT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Agenda Packet Discussion This Sunday Afternoon in San Jose Message-ID: Folks: Per our discussion at the last GPSCC monthly meeting, delegates and alternates to the next GPCA Plenary (Berkeley April 5-6th) will meet Sunday afternoon, March 23rd, 3-5 pm. at 867 North Fifth Street, San Jose (just south of Hedding Street). Other GPSCC members are welcome to attend. Please rsvp so I can arrange seating in my living room (or we can meet in the back yard if weather is nice enough). If you will be attending the meeting, please review the agenda packet beforehand. It can be found via links at cagreens.org/plenary. Call or email me if you do not have the user name and password (we do not generally broadcast this information for obvious reasons). Our normal process is for this meeting to create a set of recommendations to take to our next general business meeting for confirmation or other instructions from GPSCC members to the Plenary delegates. That meeting will be Thursday, April 4th. Let me know if there are any questions about this message. Warner Bloomberg _wb4d23 at aol.com_ (mailto:wb4d23 at aol.com) (408-295-9353) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From peter at myersforcalifornia.com Thu Mar 20 00:05:42 2008 From: peter at myersforcalifornia.com (Peter Myers) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:05:42 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Peter Myers Town Hall and Movie Screening in Campbell This Saturday Message-ID: PETER MYERS TOWN HALL AND MOVIE SCREENING IN CAMPBELL SATURDAY, MARCH 22 Please join me at my first town hall meeting at 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22, at the Campbell Library. We will be watching Eugene Jarecki's outstanding documentary, Why We Fight, which exposes the military-industrial complex and its dangers. After the movie, we will be discussing the film and any other issues you'd like to bring up. The Campbell Library is located at 77 Harrison Ave. Campbell, CA 95008. See you there, Peter Myers Green Party Candidate U.S. House of Representatives California's 15th District peter at myersforcalifornia.com http://www.myersforcalifornia.com 408-242-4212 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fredd at freeshell.org Thu Mar 20 11:21:39 2008 From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:21:39 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] DWF GOOD GOVERNMENT Event, March 30 Message-ID: <47E2AB33.6070504@freeshell.org> Dear Santa Clara County Greens, Much good discussion regarding "A Sustainable Global Environment" is happening throughout the country. There is very little discussion on "A Sustainable Global Peace," however. In ten days, anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan will be speaking on the subject in the San Francisco Veterans War Memorial Building. YOU ARE INVITED TO ATTEND: The Democratic World Federalists (DWF) Annual GOOD GOVERNMENT Luncheon - Speech WHEN: March 30, 2008; 11:30 am - 2:00 pm WHERE: S.F. Veterans War Memorial Bldg. 401 Van Ness Ave, (at McAllister St.), San Francisco, CA 94102 The GUEST SPEAKER: Cindy Sheehan, Gold Star Mother, anti-war icon, and candidate for U.S. House of Representatives, speaking on, "Can we attain sustainable global peace?" at 12:45 pm. MUSIC & ENTERTAINMENT: by "Annie & the Vets," at 12 Noon COSPONSORS & HOSTS: VFP Chapter 69 and the Bob Basker American Legion Post 315 LUNCHEON BUFFET & PROGRAM: 11:30 am - 12 :30 pm - $18.00 DESSERT, BEVERAGE & PROGRAM: 12:00 Noon - 12:45 pm - $7.00 PROGRAM: 12:45 - 2:00 pm. RESERVATIONS: Call DWF at 415-227-4880; Email dwfed at dwfed.org ; or Mail to DWF, 55 New Montgomery St., Suite 225, San Francisco, CA 94105, by March 25. (Same day-at door luncheon registration depends on availability.) Write checks to DWF. Listing names of each luncheon attendee, addresses andphone numbers will be helpful. In the spirit of peace, justice and open discussion, Fred Duperrault, GPSCC Member From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Mar 20 18:07:14 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:07:14 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [G-C-F] Kent Smith obituary and 3/16 service details Message-ID: <47E30A42.6050909@aceweb.com> I went to Kent Smith's service. It was quite touching. You can see my take on it at: http://tian.greens.org/California/NevadaCounty/KentsFuneral.html Beth Moore wrote: > http://theunion.com/article/20080308/OBITUARIES/365876339 > > Kent Warner Smith sponsored obituary > 12:34 a.m. PT Mar 8, 2008 > > Kent Warner Smith > > June 16, 1941 to > February 18, 2008 > > Kent Warner Smith passed with a quiet look of delight on his face on > Monday, February 18, 2008 at his home in Nevada City. He was 66. > > A celebration of Kent's life will be held Sunday, March 16 at 2 pm at > the Nevada City Veterans Memorial Building, 415 N. Pine St. Nevada > City. In Kent's spirit, his family invites everyone to dress casually > and, if you like, wear a kooky hat. Bring your dancing shoes, favorite > memories, and a celebratory spirit. > > Kent will long be remembered in the Nevada County community for his > deep political and spiritual engagement, as well as his humor, > intelligence, his commitment to justice, and his fun eccentric > character. > > Kent's brilliance and vast knowledge of geo-political issues were > remarkable. Coming from a line of scholars, Kent graduated from > Stanford in 1964 with a BA in American History. He played for the > Stanford Men's soccer team and studied abroad in Italy. Kent then went > on to earn an MA in History at the University of California, Berkeley > in 1966 followed by a PhD in Diplomatic History, UC Berkeley 1972, > successfully completing a dissertation on U.S.-Mexican relations. > > As a graduate student, Kent was a leading organizer of non-violent > resistance to the Vietnam War and a dedicated activist in the Civil > Rights Movement. He served as the Field Secretary of the War Registers > League in 1972 and the Academic Coordinator for the Peace Studies > Program at Stanford in 1974. He also co-authored the U.S. history > textbook, As It Happened. > > Kent was a devoted father of two daughters, Micaela and Gabrielle, and > lived in Santa Cruz while raising his family with Mardi Van Winkle, > his former wife and co-adventurer. During this time, his creative > side started to emerge and he delved into sculpture, cake decorating, > planning family trips and creating the family game, Torpedoes and > Submarines which everyone loved. > > He taught History and International Relations at several institutions > of higher education and MBA Marketing and Management in the Silicon > Valley. In the mid-80s, he moved to San Francisco and founded the > Dream Training Institute. He was also executive director of the > Association of Dreams. Dreams served as a meaningful guide for Kent > in understanding his life and its direction. > > In 1985, he moved to Nevada County and built his beloved "Walden" > cabin in a spiritual community near Grass Valley. The quietude this > provided supported a deeply spiritual life for 12 years. During this >time, he was instrumental in the formation of the Green Party of > California and ran for both the U. S. and State Senate. He was among > the early pioneers in organizing the Green Party globally, in > particular between Canada, Mexico and the U. S. He played an important > role at the first Planetary Meeting of Greens held in Rio de Janeiro > in May 1992 immediately preceding the Earth Summit. > > Upon hearing of Kent's passing, Natalia Escuedero, former > vice-president of the Green Ecological Party of Mexico wrote, "Mission > accomplished, Kent! You served your country, society and mother Earth >throughout your life, demonstrating that you are a man of justice and > order. You have left us an example to follow." > > During the 1990s, he became president of our local FCAT station > producing and hosting several programs such as The Emerging Golden > Age, The News Hour and the Monty Python-like comedy Mid Realities with > friend Jerry Martin. Kent continued his community service until the > end of his life organizing many groups, teaching free classes and > mentoring others. One of his last political efforts was organizing > Americans for Constitutional Integrity, a group dedicated to the > preservation of our country's constitution and the Impeachment of > President Bush. > > Kent's interests were varied and included tennis, soccer, trips to the > family cabin, international adventure (traveling to more than 35 > countries) reading, writing, (he authored the book People Magic: How > to Manifest the Relationships you Want), meditating, art (The Outlaw > Artists), walking the streets of Nevada City, attending cultural > events and cultivating and enjoying the depths of intimacy with his > life partner, Lynn. > > Kent was a beloved grandfather to his six grandchildren. > Affectionately known as "Grandpa Moustache," he loved to wrestle and > play soccer. He was famous for his money toss. > > In his eight-month journey through illness and healing, Kent remained > positive and loving, relying on an "attitude of gratitude." He focused > on natural healing and a method he called Healing in Style which meant > going out to restaurants, watching movies and having fun. He used his > last time on Earth well by cultivating love and forgiveness among his > loved ones. It was no surprise that he died with a look of delight on > his face. > > Kent is survived by his life partner, Lynn Ely; daughter and > son-in-law, Micaela Rubalcava and Jeff Cunan of Quincy, CA; daughter > and son-in-law, Gabrielle Smith-Dluha and Radovan Dluhy-Smith of the > Czech Republic; six grandchildren: Luis, Che and Miles Rubalcava > Cunan, Jakub Dluhy-Smith, Theo Dluhy-Smith and Olivia Dluha; brother > and sister-in-law, Dan and Hannah Smith of Walnut Creek; sister and > brother-in-law, Nancy and Mike Anderson of Grass Valley; sister and > brother-in-law, Elaine and John Culverwell of Fremont; and many nieces > and nephews. He is preceded in death by parents, Louise Dally Smith > and Ralph J. Smith. > > The spirit of Kent W. Smith's life was to play, to explore, to try new > things, to make an impact, to stand up for justice, to serve truth, > and to search for God. May that spirit live on in all of us. > > Memorial contributions can be made to Hospice of the Foothills. > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added pictures from Kent Smith's funeral in Nevada City. From pmyers42 at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 11:40:55 2008 From: pmyers42 at gmail.com (Peter Myers) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Peter Myers Town Hall and Movie Screening in Campbell, Saturday, March 22 (Repost) Message-ID: PETER MYERS TOWN HALL AND MOVIE SCREENING IN CAMPBELL SATURDAY, MARCH 22 Please join me at my first town hall meeting at 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22, at the Campbell Library. We will be watching Eugene Jarecki's outstanding documentary, Why We Fight, which exposes the military-industrial complex and its dangers. After the movie, we will be discussing the film and any other issues you'd like to bring up. The Campbell Library is located at 77 Harrison Ave. Campbell, CA 95008. See you there, Peter Myers Green Party Candidate U.S. House of Representatives California's 15th District peter at myersforcalifornia.com http://www.myersforcalifornia.com 408-242-4212 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Fri Mar 21 20:11:25 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:11:25 -0400 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Don't Weep for Obama's "Race" Speech; Weep for Forgotten Victims of Reagan-Bush "Conservatism" Message-ID: <8CA59E18C44AD32-8A4-2177@webmail-nf15.sim.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, As usual, I have a completely unconventional perspective on the silly Jeremiah Wright - Barack Obama "controversy."? See below an excerpt and a link to my blog post on Green Commons: =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =?? =? =? =? =? = Posted on Green Commons, Friday, March 21, 2008. Don't Weep for Obama; Weep for Forgotten Victims of Reagan-Bush 'Conservatism' by Alex Walker ? I do not, I repeat, I do not find Rev. Jeremiah Wright speaking truth to power as hateful, anti-White, anti-Semitic or offensive in any way. So, Wright offended Rush Limbaugh? Anyone who "offends" that big, fat, idiot can't be all bad. Thus, in my judgement, the new Democratic liberal leadership failed their first test against the Republican Noise Machine in 2008. ? Do not waste your tears over Barack Obama's irrelevant "race" speech. Weep, for the forgotten victims of Reagan-Bush "conservatism" around the world. HALABJA, IRAN, MARCH 1988 Twenty years before the current silly "controversy," almost to the day, Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein attacked the Kurds using chemical weapons. Clouds of poison gas swept through the town, killing as many as 5,000 people. The Reagan "conservative" administration offered Hussein financial credits. They provided Saddam with battlefield intelligence. U.S. helicopters sold to Iraq in 1983 were used in the attack. Finally, after another wave of attacks in August 1988, the US Senate passed legislation to end US financial support for Hussein and impose sanctions. Colin Powell, then the national security adviser, coordinated the Reagan administration's opposition. The "Great" Ronald Reagan, Vice President Bush, Secretary of State George Schultz, Colin Powell and all senior aides supported war crimes for their "conservative' policy on Persian Gulf Oil. Obama's speech was touching but irrelevant. Fellow Americans, this election is Not about "race" no matter how many neurotic Black intellectuals say that it is.? This election is about the cumulative evils of Reagan-Bush "conservatism." Democrats failed this first test against the Republican Noise Machine and thanks to our gutless, clueless, race-obsessed "leaders", Reagan-Bush fiends have, in effect, obtained a general amnesty for all their crimes. The Halabja story is just one example of hundreds of evil things done in our name by Reagan-Bush "conservatives" in Afghanistan, Angola, Cambodia, Chile, China, Columbia, Congo, Cuba, Egypt, El Salvador, Fiji Islands, Grenada, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Mexico, Mozambique, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Okinawa, Pakistan, Palestine, Panama, Philippines, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Spain, Sudan, and Yugoslavia. .? .? . Thanks to our liberal Democratic losers, from now on all Americans are to be judged collectively for the crimes of Reagan-Bush "conservatives." From now on, all criticism of Reagan-Bush torture, "rendition," atrocities, waterboarding, drug-dealing, war profiteering and general gangsterism is deemed "anti-White." Mr. and Ms. Democrat: Are you prepared to be denounced as a "race traitor" in November? Are you finally prepared to laugh in the faces of the Reagan-Bush "conservative" demagogues? That is what you must be prepared to do. . . ? Read More on Green Commns at: http://www.greencommons.org/node/992 ? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =?? =? =? =? =? = ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sat Mar 22 08:46:16 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:46:16 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] MT Times Column Message-ID: <47E529C8.7010104@charter.net> The following has been submitted as a column in the MH Times. Should run next week. __ Almost every newspaper you pick up, every television new program you see has at least one story that focuses on the current economic problems in the United States and the steps being taking by our government to try an get us out of it. Most of the governmental pronouncements seem to be designed to re-build our confidence in the economy the government's ability to actually do something constructive. They expect us, as confident citizens, to go out and spend more money. After all, it is our function, as consuming citizens, to keep the economy growing. The largest corporation in the US is no longer a manufacturer but retail giant Wal-Mart Stores. There are only three ways that this company can grow in the US: open new stores in areas not yet served, have the population grow, or for us to just consume more. There are many who fight Wal-Mart on the first issue. I am not one of those hawks. There are times and places where Wal-Mart makes sense. There are other times and places where it does not. It should be up to each local area to decide. There is little that we can do about the population question. This as a moral issue over where the government has no business directing behavior and I agree. Most would not want to have lived in a country that limits families to two children as China has done. However, I am greatly concerned about the pressure on everyone to consume more, to buy more, to have an economy where hedonistic consumption becomes a goal of government. When I think back over my life, the things that have made me the happiest, the things that I value most highly, there is not a single thing that I have purchased which is on that list. After 9/11, as the economy turned downward, we were told that they way to show the terrorists that the United States could not be beaten was to go buy more, travel more, live it up. To some extent, we did. I don't think that this has gained us any new friends around the world. One of the hidden costs of all of this consumption comes from the energy that is needed to manufacture, package, distribute, sell and then dispose of all of that consumption. Energy costs and it is becoming an increasing cost of all that we do. The cost of jet fuel has nearly doubled in the last year ($1.85 / gal to $3.48.) It is now the largest expense for major airlines. As fuel costs go up, so will travel costs for all of us, but more importantly, it will push the costs higher for all of those things we buy. There is a second level of cost inherent in being a consumer driven society. All of the energy that we are using to keep our consumer economy growing is also fueling the growth of greenhouse gases in our atmosphere. The way out of our biggest economic disaster since the Great Depression is to do those very things that fuel the biggest ecological disaster we have ever faced. I have no doubts about the effects of Global Warming. Every new announcement increases my certainty.. The most recent report from the World Glacier Monitoring Service, Univ. of Zurich, indicates that the rate of glacier melting is accelerating. They monitor thirty reference glaciers in nine mountain ranges. The average thinning of the glacier in 2006 was the equivalent of 1.4 meters of water. Deniers of global warming, like comedian Ben Stein, remind us that climate models are not reality, but rather only someone's idea of how reality functions. Reality is far more complex than any model. Most climate models include the effects of large scale, fast feedback (years to decade) mechanisms, such as the fact that warmer temperatures will hold more water vapor in the atmosphere, increasing the greenhouse effect. As a result, most models have been conservative in estimating the amount of warming. It is more difficult to consider slower acting (decades or centuries) feedbacks, but when these are added, the models come closer to observed results. Here is our quandary. We can solve our economic problems by a massive surge of consumption. But if we do, we run the danger of causing permanent damage to our planet. There are other choices. We can target our consumption not toward heavily advertised immediate gratification products but rather to those things which will make permanent, long lasting changes for the better. We can buy more local food products. We can rediscover the joy of gardening. When the government sends our stimulus check, we can spend that money making our homes more energy efficient. The choice is ours. We really can have a good economy and a good environment, but we have to spend wisely. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From alexcathy at aol.com Sat Mar 22 12:37:52 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:37:52 -0400 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Okay -- I'll Shut Up Message-ID: <8CA5A6B5A8D8224-BDC-6F30@webmail-nb07.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, The time has come for me to shut up.? I have slowly but surely worked my way to a point-of-view that EVERYBODY in the world disagrees with.? In 1903 W.E.B. Du Bois wrote in "The Souls of Black Folk" that: "The problem of the Twentieth Century is the problem of the color-line." One hundred and five years later, his words are still true.? loyalty to color and "race" trumps everything else.? And it is my fate to be born into a tribe where all my education, my experience as a peace and justice activist, my experience from twenty years as a professional computer programmer, and all my knowledge from traveling the country and overseas in my fifty-eight years MEANS NOTHING compared to the overwhelming fact of the color of my skin.? January 20, 2009 -- Let us toast... President John McCain!? Alex Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 23 17:20:40 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:20:40 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] plenary delegate registration Message-ID: <47E6F3D8.5080103@sbcglobal.net> Who had the task of submitting delegate names for the April plenary? http://www.cagreens.org/c/cdel/b.pl is empty. From wrolley at charter.net Mon Mar 24 09:50:39 2008 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:50:39 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] local goals Message-ID: <47E7DBDF.2060704@charter.net> For those who are not subscribed to the Green California Forum, there is some good thinking evidenced by Martin Zehr (Mato Ska) in a recent post. I have the chain of comments that led up to this. I believe that the final paragraph defines what the County Council need to be doing. For those not familiar with Martin, he is a long time Green activist who recently moved from New Mexico to California. He has been active several of the committees of the Green Party US including EcoAction where I first email met him. Wes __ Martin's Post__ I am glad that you have raised the issue of state ballot lines. I know that the Cobb campaign was a disaster in terms of the loss of ballot lines. NMGP lost its major party status and this year may very well lose its status as a minor party. Viable Presidential candidates by the GPUS play an instrumental role in many states regarding ballot access and this should not be ignored by state and local Green leaderships. The GPSF already has a demonstrated power at the ballot box and elected officials, as have other counties. We now play an active role in writing new bills and working on strategies with our elected officials. We continue to promote them once they are elected and promote neighborhood (precinct) organization in between elections that will aid in their re-election. We also should be presenting the case for legislation at hearings in Sacramento and at local gatherings (see below) whether they are on water, public education and transportation, climate change or peak oil. As an electoral party our first task is to maintain and increase our ballot lines. Without the ballot line our candidates may as well run as (dare I say it) an independent. This is the repeated flaw of those who dedicate their energy and organization promoting Independents (such as Cindy Sheehan and Ralph Nader). It is indeed quixotic why we Greens do this, but I have been as guilty of this as anyone else. The party as an organization needs to function with this reality in mind always, otherwise there is no distinction between the Green Party and an advocacy group. An advocacy group can do everything a political party can do except run candidates. Too many Greens have been raised in a political environment of 527's and 501 (3)c's. The problem with that is that they do NOT run candidates. If we go too far astray regarding the role of a political party we can end up disappearing in the multitude of non-profits while we lose our unique role in being the leading political force for change. The non-profits that are already out there can carry the weight of particular issues. We need to have candidates that they can endorse to implement their policy proposals. Local Green Party leadership should define priorities in a way to maximize our ability to recruit candidates, support them financially in the elections and establish working local organization that will strengthen candidates' campaigns in the future. Mato Ska -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From alexcathy at aol.com Tue Mar 25 09:54:25 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:54:25 -0400 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Forget Alex Walker -- Read Gary Kamiya Message-ID: <8CA5CB0043620B1-125C-13B@webmail-nd11.sysops.aol.com> Forget Alex Walker. Who the hell is he, anyway? A failed computer programmer! Instead, read Gary Kamiya's excellent essay posted on www.salon.com today. Kamiya says almost everything I was trying to say in my post last week, when everybody shot me down as a "troll" and a general madman. Truth is truth, even if a madman says it.? Gary Kamiya makes the same point much better than me and since Mr. Kamiya is executive editor and cofounder of the online magazine Salon.com, and a regular contributor to The New York Times Book Review, unlike me, he has a proper corporate license to express an opinion.? I have deleted my entire essay from the Green Commons Web Site and substituted Gary Kamiya' because I think this so important. Kamiya begins right away with the terrifying spectre of President John McCain.? Also note the powerful quote from Abraham Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address which today's ignorant US "intellectuals" never remember. Posted on Salon, Tuesday, March 25, 2008. Rev. Jeremiah Wright Isn't the Problem The hysteria over Obama's former pastor's attacks on America shows we're still in thrall to knee-jerk patriotism. by Gary Kamiya Maybe we really are doomed to elect John McCain, remain in Iraq forever and nuke Iran. Nations that forget history may not be doomed to repeat it, but those that never even recognize reality in the first place definitely are. Last week's ridiculous uproar over Rev. Jeremiah Wright's sermons proves yet again that America has still not come to terms with the most rudimentary facts about race, 9/11 -- or itself. The great shock so many people claim to be feeling over Wright's sermons is preposterous. Anyone who is surprised and horrified that some black people feel anger at white people, and America, is living in a racial never-never land. Wright has called the U.S. "the United States of White America," talks about the "oppression" of black people and says, "White America got their wake-up call after 9/11." Gosh, who could have dreamed that angry racial grievances and left-wing political views are sometimes expressed in black churches? It's not surprising that the right is using Wright to paint Barack Obama as a closet Farrakhan, trying to let the air out of his trans-racial balloon by insinuating that he's a dogmatic race man. But beyond the fake shock and the all-too-familiar racial politics, what the whole episode reveals is how narrow the range of acceptable discourse remains in this country. This is especially true of anything having to do with patriotism or 9/11 -- which have become virtually interchangeable. Wright's unforgivable sin was that he violated our rigid code of national etiquette. . . . Wright isn't the problem. Stupid patriotism is the problem. We are now five years into a war that may outrank Vietnam as the most pointless and disastrous one in our history. George W. Bush and his neoconservative brain trust conceived that war, but they were only able to push it through because the American people, their political leaders and the mainstream media signed off on it. And they did so because they were in the grip of the fearful, vengeful, patriotic frenzy that swept the nation after 9/11. Without 9/11 and America's fateful reaction to it, there would be no Iraq war. Every day that the war drags on is yet another indictment of that self-righteous, unthinking "patriotism." . . . In fact, the same all-American flag-wavers who called loudest for war against Iraq are now denouncing Wright as a hate-monger and a traitor, and attacking Michelle Obama for saying that only recently has she had reason to feel proud of her country. They insist that anyone who is not permanently proud of the United States, whose patriotism isn't plastered on his or her face like the frozen smile of a beauty queen waving from a Fourth of July float, is beyond the pale. Never mind that the glorious results of their debased version of patriotism -- 4,000 American troops dead, a wrecked Iraq, and a greatly trengthened terrorist enemy -- are plain for all to see. . . . Yes, Wright was angry, shrill and one-sided. But America would have been better off if his uncomfortable sermon had echoed through every church in the country after 9/11, instead of the patriotic, ahistorical pablum that did. That's strange, and depressing, is that all this has happened before -- and we've learned nothing. In the days after 9/11, the nation whipped itself up into an ecstasy of moral sanctimony. Among the few who dared to resist the groupthink was Susan Sontag, who in a brief New Yorker piece wrote, "The disconnect between last Tuesday's monstrous dose of reality and the self-righteous drivel and outright deceptions being peddled by public figures and TV commentators is startling, depressing. The voices licensed to follow the event seem to have joined together in a campaign to infantilize the public. Where is the acknowledgement that this was not a 'cowardly' attack on 'civilization' or 'liberty' or 'humanity' or 'the free world' but an attack on the world's self-proclaimed super-power, undertaken as a consequence of specific American alliances and actions?" . . . The taboo against any critical national self-examination has always existed here. But 9/11 sealed it in blood and made it virtually untouchable. Only a few academics, Middle East specialists and outspoken journalists have dared to suggest that U.S. foreign policies played a role in the 9/11 attacks. The Democrats, terrified of being called unpatriotic and "weak on national security," won't go there. Which is a big reason that the desperately needed national discussion over how to deal with the Arab/Muslim world after Bush leaves office still hasn't started. Turkey has a notorious law, Article 301, that makes "insulting Turkishness" a crime. We're a lot closer to this than we like to think. In fact, we can expect John McCain's entire campaign to basically be an American version of Article 301. . . . The Prophetic Tradition In 1630, Winthrop delivered a sermon to his fellow members of the Massachusetts Bay Company. The line that has gone down in history, oft cited by Ronald Reagan, is "wee shall be as a Citty upon a Hill." But Reagan, eager to present America as perfect, omitted the passage that followed. Winthrop warned that if the community of Puritans dealt falsely with their God, they would be cursed "till wee be consumed out of the good land whether wee are goeing." . . . In his Second Inaugural Address, delivered near the end of the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln issued an equally terrifying warning -- one also largely erased from the national memory. "Fondly do we hope -- fervently do we pray that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away," Lincoln said. But then he added, "Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether.'" . . . I am not comparing Jeremiah Wright to these towering figures. My point is that his angry claims that his nation has betrayed its promises of racial equality and a just foreign policy are part of a long and honorable prophetic tradition. It was not critics like Wright who got us into the bloody mess we're in today. That honor belongs to the flag-wavers, the patriots -- "the real Americans." URL: http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/03/25/rev_jeremiah_wright/ Gary Kamiya is the executive editor and one of the founders of the online magazine Salon.com, where he has written about politics, literature, the Middle East, sports, music, art, race, travel, and film, among other subjects, and is a regular contributor to The New York Times Book Review. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Tue Mar 25 14:51:33 2008 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:51:33 -0400 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] BREAKING NEWS -- Hillary Clinton Gone Insane Message-ID: <8CA5CD986B4F860-D20-1C70@webmail-nb09.sysops.aol.com> Post are cropping on around the Internet of Hillary Rodham Clinton unabashedly race-baiting Barack Obama about Jeremiah Wright. No doubt about it, Hillary Rodham Clinton has gone insane. What the hell does she think the Democratic Party nomination would be worth after is? I never liked the Clintons but always credited them for having a least a little political savvy. Does she expect ninety-two percent of African-Americans (and non-black antiwar activists) to vote for her because they have "No Choice" but to vote for the "Lesser Evil?" Posted on The New York Times Politics Blog, March 25, 2008 Clinton: 'Wright Would Not Have Been My Paster' by Patrick Healy GREENSBURG, Pa. ? Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton broke her week-long silence Tuesday morning about Senator Barack Obama?s relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, saying that she would have changed churches if her pastor had made the racially divisive and anti-American remarks that Mr. Wright had made. ?He would not have been my pastor,? Mrs. Clinton told reporters and editors at the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review as she interviewed for the paper?s editorial endorsement. ?You don?t choose your family, but you choose what church you want to attend.? . . . When Mr. Wright?s comments surfaced, Mrs. Clinton sharply criticized ?hate speech,? but she chose not to comment on the Obama-Wright controversy after Mr. Obama?s speech, simply saying that reporters should ask Mr. Obama if he was doing enough to condemn or break with Mr. Wright. In her interview with the Pittsburgh paper, she cited her criticism of Don Imus, the radio shock-jock who made racially derogatory comments about the Rutgers women?s basketball team. ?You know, I spoke out against Don Imus, saying that hate speech was unacceptable in any setting, and I believe that,? Mrs. Clinton said. ?I just think you have to speak out against that. You certainly have to do that, if not explicitly, then implicitly by getting up and moving.? URL: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/clinton-wright-would-not-have-been-my-pastor/ It is becoming clearer by the day that the stupid Democrats are blowing this election.? The only question is whether is ready to carry the heavy burden of being America's second party after the Democrats collapse -- which they will just like the Whig Party if they lose another presidential election. Alex Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Mar 26 11:10:51 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:10:51 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free Message-ID: <47EA91AB.6040206@aceweb.com> > > Dr. Arjun Makhijani > > Tuesday, March 25 at 11:30 AM > > Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free > > > Does eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from fossil fuels require a > shift to nuclear power? Is there a more realistic roadmap for creating > a zero CO2 society by eliminating dependence on oil and coal? > > Dr. Arjun Makhijani, a Berkeley electrical engineering Ph.D. who heads > the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research, and author of the > new book Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free, says, ?If we are bold enough, > the U.S. can simultaneously solve the problems of oil imports, > proliferation of weapons of mass destruction linked to nuclear power, > and carbon-dioxide emissions. A technological revolution is brewing: > this book shows how we can address the climate change crisis and build > a healthy economy.? > Dr. Makhijani began by explaining that he did his Ph.D. research in an environment where energy efficiency was not yet a widely shared topic. In fact, there was no faculty advisor or funding to do the doctoral research. Not long after that he began working for S. David Freeman at the energy policy project of the Ford Foundation in Washington, DC. When the first oil crisis hit they were the only independant people in town with a detailed understanding of the issue. He has studied various aspects of energy and sharing his findings since that time. Dr. Makhijani then explained some of the reasons he thinks nuclear power is not a good idea. He pointed to the widely shared idea "France recycles nuclear waste" and explained that it is 1% true for the plutonium component. In addition they pollute the English Channel with byproducts in the process, despite the fact that a dozen other countries with shorelines they are contaminating have asked them to stop. Also France has not solved the problem of isolating its high level waste for the long term. Using nuclear power to address global warming will require new uranium enrichment plants. Look at the problems the west is having with just one such plant in Iran. Do we want to build two or three such plants a year? Dr. Makhijani thinks a good slogan for one part of the solution is "parking lots are the answer". Putting a solar awning on a parking spot will generate about one Kilowatt of power during the day. In the USA there are 10 parking spots for every car. We can't use them all but they can supply much of the electricity we require. If we switch to Lithium Ion batteries electric cars will get the range needed for most people's driving habits. Using solar power to drive battery based cars is one way to go. Dr. Makhijani thinks another good slogan is "weeds are part of the answer." He thinks diverting food crops into the gas tank is not smart. Making corn into a fuel puts us into a situation where the hungry are competing with cars. Enough work has been done on using algae in water to capture carbon dioxide (CO2) that it looks like a good way to gather energy near coal plants. Research should be funded into ways to convert algae to oil for biodiesel economically. Looking at the global picture, Dr. Makhijani thinks that for global CO2 emissions to fall by 80%, American must reduce our CO2 output by 92%. This is possible. Wind energy from North Dakota, Texas, Kansas, South Dakota, and Montana alone have the potential to replace all of the fossil fuels used to generate electricity in the USA today. Solar power can also provide a chunk of the solution. If the consequences of CO2 induced climate change appear to be dire. We need to be working on this transition now. During Q&A a number of interesting things came up: Q: Somebody said "it will take $600 billion to convert the electricity sector." $600 billion for changing electric power sector over a period of decades is not that much in a country where the annual spending on electricity and other forms of energy is $1.5 trillion. The change will occur over time. It won't be overnight. Dr. Makhijani is not a fan of the India/USA nuclear deal. He thinks it would be a bad thing for India to get into a situation where someone they could end up in political disagreements with would have control over their fuel supply. Dr. Makhijani thinks Detroit abandoned the electric car too soon. They were having difficulties making it work with lead acid batteries. Many of the problems with those are made obsolete by switching to Lithium Ion batteries. He sees plug in hybrids as a step in the right direction, but not the whole answer. A question regarding the situation of the USA in the world was answered with: Dr. Makhijani thinks the peak year for American Hegemony was 1973. Reasons include: that was the year they disconnected the $US from gold, that was the year the Vietnam war ended, that was the peak year for wages of working Americans, and that was the US economy's first oil shock. Spain has the best large scale solar thermal systems, which is a technology that is coming back. A Spanish company has made an agreement in Arizona to install a system that makes sense financially at 14 cents per KWHr. Dr. Makhijani thinks one area where a technology breakthrough would be nice is in large capacitor storage for electricity. If capacitors that could compete with batteries came along it would enable many new technologies. Dr. Makhijani researched that slogan "nuclear power is too cheap to meter" and discovered that it was propaganda related to making the US atom look peaceful. Even then the technical people at GE were saying that nuclear power was going to be expensive. It was part of the cold war with the Soviet Union. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org I was browsing Gusher of Lies, a book about the US oil industry's current state. At least Robert Bryce got a lot of his facts right. From JamBoi at Greens.org Fri Mar 28 01:11:32 2008 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Rove's political prisoner Gov. Don Siegelman to be released from prison pending appeal Message-ID: <1438.38.99.84.36.1206691892.squirrel@www.greens.org> Take heart folks, Its probably hard to overstate how important this event is. This victory is a huge indicator of the tide turning for progressives, for justice, for America and has potential to positively impact all the world's inhabitants because of its far reaching implications! This is yet another unraveling thread of the CheneyBush criminal empire and most directly on Karl Rove. My shoutout of gratitude and props for the stellar work done by Keith Olbermann and Dan Abrams of MSNBC, 60 minutes in addition RawStory.com , BradBlog.com, kpete, HissySpit, Deepmodem Mom, Syrinx (all of DemocraticUnderground), Billary Redux of DailyKos.com and so many other bloggers who've made it their business to focus a laser beam on this atrocious ugly political lynching scheme of Karl Rove. Yeah for us!!! As we slog away we CAN reach our goals of impeaching Cheney and Bush and bringing healing to our nation and our planet. Keep up the struggle! Compassion Lives! Drew Johnson http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0308/A_victory_for_the_blogosphere.html Breaking: Don Siegelman will be released for House testimony by Billary Redux Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:36:46 AM PDT Politico calls it a victory for the Blogosphere Thanks to the persistence of progressive blogs and "60 Minutes," a fascinating story now will be scrutinized everywhere. Wonder if any TV stations in Alabama will have, um, technical difficulties with this bulletin. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/27/123455/791/705/485415 March 27, 2008 Categories: Blogs A victory for the blogosphere Thanks to the persistence of progressive blogs and "60 Minutes," a fascinating story now will be scrutinized everywhere. Wonder if any TV stations in Alabama will have, um, technical difficulties with this bulletin. Date: 03/27/2008 12:10 PM BC-Siegelman-Democrats/179 EDs: APNewsNow; Will be led. House panel seek Siegelman testimony before Congress By BEN EVANS Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) ? The House Judiciary Committee has asked the Justice Department to temporarily release former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman from prison to testify before Congress in early May about possible political influence over his prosecution. A spokeswoman for the committee said Thursday that Siegelman, who is serving more than seven years in a Louisiana prison, would travel to Washington under guard of the U.S. Marshals Service. She said Committee Chairman John Conyers, a Michigan Democrat, wants to hear directly from Siegelman because lawmakers are having trouble getting information elsewhere, including from the Justice Department. Siegelman, a Democrat, was elected governor in 1998 and served one term. He was convicted in 2006 on six bribery-related and one obstruction of justice charge. Democrats last year began reviewing the case as part of a broader investigation what they said were selective prosecutions by the Bush administration. From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Mar 28 11:30:41 2008 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:30:41 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Actions marking 5 years and 4000 lives Message-ID: <47ED3951.9000900@aceweb.com> There were a lot of activism events in the past week or so. It started in Palo Alto on Saturday with a 5th year of the war protest: http://tian.greens.org/PaloAlto/Peace/March15/index.html The following Tuesday the Mountain View Voices for Peace held a vigil: http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/MVVP/Iraq5thAnniversary/index.html Regretfully, we had to go back to the corner earlier this week to mark 4000: http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/MVVP/4000Dead/index.html Thanks to all who let me take their pictures! -- Tian http://tian.greens.org At the Mountain View Bicycle/Pedestrian Advisory Committee meeting they spent a lot of time talking about parking at Mountain View High School. From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Fri Mar 28 12:58:29 2008 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us) Date: 28 Mar 2008 19:58:29 -0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SVIC] Rove's political prisoner Gov. Don Siegelman ... Message-ID: <20080328195829.11681.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us> Gee, think Conjers is going to get around to looking into Dean Zimmermann's politically motivated sting and prosecution? http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/08/344239.shtml Not bluddy likely. cls From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 28 13:16:51 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:16:51 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: [GPCA Official Notice] REMINDER: Plenary Agenda Packet Message-ID: <000b01c89110$a9a360a0$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "County Contacts" To: "County Contacts" Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] REMINDER: Plenary Agenda Packet > GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE > > This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, > or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. > Follow the contact directions > stated in the email. > > > > > > This is a reminder for the GPCA General Assembly on April 5-6 in Alameda > County. > > Online registration and submittal of delegates will close next Wednesday, > April 2. Please help us have an orderly meeting by registering in advance. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Plenary Agenda Packet > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:44:53 -0800 > > > From: Christina Olague and Larry Mullen, CC Cocos > > -------------------------- > The agenda packet and logistics packet for the April 5-6 General Assembly > in > Alameda are now available for downloading from the plenary web site: > > http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ > > You will need the common password for access. 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Use the Delegates link on the plenary page cited above. > > Online registration and delegate submission closes on Wednesday April 2. > > > > You may participate in this important event in a number of ways: > > At the General Assembly > - as a delegate or a observer in the decision-making plenary sessions > and/or > - as participant in working group, standing committee and/or caucus > meetings > > Before the General Assembly > - with a working group or standing committee that is generating a proposal > - discussing the agenda proposals in your county and on-line > > We hope to see you in Alameda! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Contacts2006 mailing list > Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From andid at cagreens.org Fri Mar 28 14:01:03 2008 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:01:03 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Forget Alex Walker -- Read Gary Kamiya In-Reply-To: <8CA5CB0043620B1-125C-13B@webmail-nd11.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA5CB0043620B1-125C-13B@webmail-nd11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: KPFA mentioned on one of the AM shows that the difference between how McCain's response to a very similar situation was rather interesting in view of Obama's determination to even withdraw from the church if his former pastor didn't. Here I was thinking how brave Obama was not to go overboard but still deal with it in a rational way and now I hear this. We really have lost the concept of being able to seriously disagree with one another and still be able to discuss (and even agree on) other subjects, haven't we? KPFA also commented on the different environment we are in with Winter Soldier II and the environment when Winter Soldier was in legislative hearings. Kerry (when asked) didn't know WS II was going on!! (Was it his clone that testified in the first one???) Andrea On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:54 AM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Forget Alex Walker. Who the hell is he, anyway? A failed computer > programmer! Instead, read Gary Kamiya's excellent essay posted on > www.salon.com today. Kamiya says almost everything I was trying to > say in my post last week, when everybody shot me down as a "troll" > and a general madman. Truth is truth, even if a madman says it. > Gary Kamiya makes the same point much better than me and since Mr. > Kamiya is executive editor and cofounder of the online magazine > Salon.com, and a regular contributor to The New York Times Book > Review, unlike me, he has a proper corporate license to express an > opinion. I have deleted my entire essay from the Green Commons Web > Site and substituted Gary Kamiya' because I think this so > important. Kamiya begins right away with the terrifying spectre of > President John McCain. Also note the powerful quote from Abraham > Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address which today's ignorant US > "intellectuals" never remember. > > > Posted on Salon, Tuesday, March 25, 2008. > Rev. Jeremiah Wright Isn't the Problem > The hysteria over Obama's former pastor's attacks on America shows > we're still in thrall to knee-jerk patriotism. > by Gary Kamiya > > Maybe we really are doomed to elect John McCain, remain in Iraq > forever and nuke Iran. Nations that forget history may not be > doomed to repeat it, but those that never even recognize reality in > the first place definitely are. Last week's ridiculous uproar over > Rev. Jeremiah Wright's sermons proves yet again that America has > still not come to terms with the most rudimentary facts about race, > 9/11 -- or itself. > > The great shock so many people claim to be feeling over Wright's > sermons is preposterous. Anyone who is surprised and horrified that > some black people feel anger at white people, and America, is > living in a racial never-never land. > Wright has called the U.S. "the United States of White America," > talks about the "oppression" of black people and says, "White > America got their wake-up call after 9/11." Gosh, who could have > dreamed that angry racial grievances and left-wing political views > are sometimes expressed in black churches? > > It's not surprising that the right is using Wright to paint Barack > Obama as a closet Farrakhan, trying to let the air out of his trans- > racial balloon by insinuating that he's a dogmatic race man. But > beyond the fake shock and the all-too-familiar racial politics, > what the whole episode reveals is how narrow the range of > acceptable discourse remains in this country. This is especially > true of anything having to do with patriotism or 9/11 -- which have > become virtually interchangeable. Wright's unforgivable sin was > that he violated our rigid code of national etiquette. > . . . > > Wright isn't the problem. Stupid patriotism is the problem. > > We are now five years into a war that may outrank Vietnam as the > most pointless and disastrous one in our history. George W. Bush > and his neoconservative brain trust conceived that war, but they > were only able to push it through because the American people, > their political leaders and the mainstream media signed off on it. > And they did so because they were in the grip of the fearful, > vengeful, patriotic frenzy that swept the nation after 9/11. > Without 9/11 and America's fateful reaction to it, there would be > no Iraq war. Every day that the war drags on is yet another > indictment of that self-righteous, unthinking "patriotism." > . . . > > In fact, the same all-American flag-wavers who called loudest for > war against Iraq are now denouncing Wright as a hate-monger and a > traitor, and attacking Michelle Obama for saying that only recently > has she had reason to feel proud of her country. They insist that > anyone who is not permanently proud of the United States, whose > patriotism isn't plastered on his or her face like the frozen smile > of a beauty queen waving from a Fourth of July float, is beyond the > pale. Never mind that the glorious results of their debased version > of patriotism -- 4,000 American troops dead, a wrecked Iraq, and a > greatly trengthened terrorist enemy -- are plain for all to see. > . . . > > Yes, Wright was angry, shrill and one-sided. But America would have > been better off if his uncomfortable sermon had echoed through > every church in the country after 9/11, instead of the patriotic, > ahistorical pablum that did. > That's strange, and depressing, is that all this has happened > before -- and we've learned nothing. In the days after 9/11, the > nation whipped itself up into an ecstasy of moral sanctimony. Among > the few who dared to resist the groupthink was Susan Sontag, who in > a brief New Yorker piece wrote, "The disconnect between last > Tuesday's monstrous dose of reality and the self-righteous drivel > and outright deceptions being peddled by public figures and TV > commentators is startling, depressing. The voices licensed to > follow the event seem to have joined together in a campaign to > infantilize the public. Where is the acknowledgement that this was > not a 'cowardly' attack on 'civilization' or 'liberty' or > 'humanity' or 'the free world' but an attack on the world's self- > proclaimed super-power, undertaken as a consequence of specific > American alliances and actions?" > . . . > > The taboo against any critical national self-examination has always > existed here. But 9/11 sealed it in blood and made it virtually > untouchable. Only a few academics, Middle East specialists and > outspoken journalists have dared to suggest that U.S. foreign > policies played a role in the 9/11 attacks. The Democrats, > terrified of being called unpatriotic and "weak on national > security," won't go there. Which is a big reason that the > desperately needed national discussion over how to deal with the > Arab/Muslim world after Bush leaves office still hasn't started. > > Turkey has a notorious law, Article 301, that makes "insulting > Turkishness" a crime. We're a lot closer to this than we like to > think. In fact, we can expect John McCain's entire campaign to > basically be an American version of Article 301. > . . . > > The Prophetic Tradition > > In 1630, Winthrop delivered a sermon to his fellow members of the > Massachusetts Bay Company. The line that has gone down in history, > oft cited by Ronald Reagan, is "wee shall be as a Citty upon a > Hill." But Reagan, eager to present America as perfect, omitted the > passage that followed. Winthrop warned that if the community of > Puritans dealt falsely with their God, they would be cursed "till > wee be consumed out of the good land whether wee are goeing." > . . . > > In his Second Inaugural Address, delivered near the end of the > Civil War, Abraham Lincoln issued an equally terrifying warning -- > one also largely erased from the national memory. "Fondly do we > hope -- fervently do we pray that this mighty scourge of war may > speedily pass away," Lincoln said. But then he added, "Yet, if God > wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond- > man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, > and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by > another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, > so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord, are true and > righteous altogether.'" > . . . > > I am not comparing Jeremiah Wright to these towering figures. My > point is that his angry claims that his nation has betrayed its > promises of racial equality and a just foreign policy are part of a > long and honorable prophetic tradition. It was not critics like > Wright who got us into the bloody mess we're in today. That honor > belongs to the flag-wavers, the patriots -- "the real Americans." > > > > URL: http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/03/25/ > rev_jeremiah_wright/ > > > Gary Kamiya is the executive editor and one of the founders of the > online magazine Salon.com, where he has written about politics, > literature, the Middle East, sports, music, art, race, travel, and > film, among other subjects, and is a regular contributor to The New > York Times Book Review. > Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 28 17:35:01 2008 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] One candidate race = democracy? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <603505.59475.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'm sure many people in State Senator Abel Maldonado's district have heard the bad news. The filing deadline for the June primaries came and went and there is only ONE candidate on the ballot in June. Not even the Democrats bothered to run somebody. We still have a chance to run someone through a write-in campaign. S/he would only need like 3900 votes in June to qualify as the party's nominee in November. Plus, s/he does not have to be a party member and can seek the nomination of as many parties as s/he wants. Essentially, this candidate can seek the nomination of the Democratic, Green, and Peace & Freedom parties. I wouldn't say we're in it to win it, we should just run someone to give people a choice. Even an authoritarian regime like the People's Republic of China offers people multiple candidates in township elections. I checked the websites for Santa Cruz, Monterey, and San Luis Obispo Greens to gauge if they could run a candidate. The first two don't seem like they have built enough momentum as a county (although Monterey will be having their first meeting in April) so it would be up to Santa Clara and SLO Greens. I think we should maybe sit down with the delegates from SLO next weekend to see who we can potentially persuade to run. I will also try subscribing to listservs for the respective counties' Democratic Party to see what they are talking about, if anything. -edward PS. Check out this map (http://www.sen.ca.gov/ftp/SEN/senplan/PDF_SD_ATLAS/SD15_NEW_SJ.PDF) to see if you're in the district. --------------------------------- Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JamBoi at Greens.org Sat Mar 29 09:08:51 2008 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gov. Siegelman's prison release begin's Rove's demise? Message-ID: <2781.38.99.84.36.1206806931.squirrel@www.greens.org> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/washington/28cnd-siegelman.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1206805713-eJrJ0bO6efNCtXmu+Yhexg Freed Alabama Ex-Governor Sees Politics in His Case Published: March 29, 2008 MONTGOMERY, Ala. ? Former Governor Don Siegelman of Alabama, released from prison today on bond in a bribery case, said he was as convinced as ever that politics played a leading role in his prosecution. In a telephone interview shortly after he walked out of a federal prison in Oakdale, La., Mr. Siegelman said there had been ?abuse of power? in his case, and repeatedly cited the influence of Karl Rove, the former White House political director. ?His fingerprints are smeared all over the case,? Mr. Siegelman said, a day after a federal appeals court ordered him released on bond and said there were legitimate questions about his case. Mr. Rove has strenuously denied any involvement in the conviction of the former governor, who was sentenced to serve seven years last June after being convicted in 2006. He could not immediately be reached for comment today. Mr. Siegelman served nine months while his lawyers appealed a federal judge?s refusal to release him on bond, pending the ex-governor?s appeal of his conviction. That refusal was overturned by the United States Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit on Thursday. The former governor, a Democrat, said he would ?press? to have Mr. Rove answer questions about his possible involvement in the case before Congress, which has already held a hearing on Mr. Siegelman. On Thursday, the House Judiciary Committee signaled its intention to have Mr. Siegelman testify about the nature of his prosecution. In June of 2006 he was convicted by a federal jury here of taking $500,000 from Richard M. Scrushy, the former chief executive of the HealthSouth corporation, in exchange for an appointment to the state hospital licensing board. The money was to retire a debt from Mr. Siegelman?s campaign for a state lottery to pay for schools, and the ex-governor?s lawyers have insisted that it was no more than a routine political contribution. On the telephone outside the prison today, Mr. Siegelman said he had confidence that the federal appeals court, which will now consider his larger appeal, would agree with his view of the case ? that he was convicted for a transaction that regularly takes place in American politics. Otherwise, Mr. Siegelman said, ?every governor and every president and every contributor might as well turn themselves in, because it?s going to be open season on them.? His case has become a flash point for Democratic contentions that politics influenced decisions by the Justice Department, fueled by testimony from an Alabama campaign operative that suggested Mr. Rove may have had some involvement. In Alabama, the Siegelman case has inflamed partisan passions, with Republicans insisting that Mr. Siegelman?s term from 1998 to 2002 was deeply corrupted, and Democrats furious over what they depict as a years-long political witch-hunt. Before his release earlier in the day, the ex-governor completed his prison chores for the day ? mopping a barracks area ? and waited for his wife and son to pick him up for the eight-hour drive to his home in Birmingham, Ala. ?It feels great to be out,? Mr. Siegelman said. ?I wish I could say it was over. But we?re a long way from the end of this.? From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Mar 29 10:42:34 2008 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:42:34 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Power Down Tonight? Message-ID: <47EE7F8A.4080407@earthlink.net> There is a worldwide movement that plans to make a point about carbon emissions by turning down power consumption Saturday night, 8-9 PM locally. (NOTE: that means it has already happened in parts of the world, including Australia.) "Earth Hour Turns Spotlight on Emissions" http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/03/28/7938/ Google is participating (it's now white on black): http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/intl/en/earthhour/ Earth Hour: http://www.earthhour.org http://www.earthhour2008.com/ "Sydney Goes Dark for Earth Hour" http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iWEjNjkf_cEeuCMbeDumW2q75VtwD8VN2N480 http://www.smh.com.au/earthhour/2008/ And lots more, (google "Earth Hour") Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 29 11:49:02 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:49:02 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: [GPCA Official Notice] GET MORE INVOLVED!! JOIN A NATIONALCOMMITTEE!! Message-ID: <003301c891cd$8f7d5ce0$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "County Contacts" To: "County Contacts" Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] GET MORE INVOLVED!! JOIN A NATIONALCOMMITTEE!! > GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE > > This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, > or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. > Follow the contact directions > stated in the email. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > GET MORE INVOLVED!! JOIN A NATIONAL COMMITTEE!! > > Please forward this announcement as appropriate! > > The GPUS is recruiting California Greens to participate in the > party-building work to be done at the national level. The only > requirements are that you're a California Green, willing and able to > commit to the position, and can work well with others....well, OK, and > have regular access to email and willingness to participate in > teleconferences, usually monthly. > > The positions of voting members are by appointment; non-voting > observers may join committees without prior appointment, just contact > the committee chairs directly. 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One or two references are appreciated, especially > for newer Greens, if we are not familiar with your work. Local or > state party experience is desired, but not required. Please send it > to sanda at greens.org. > > Committee positions may be appointed by the GPUS-CA Standing > Delegation at their next monthly teleconference (the third Tuesday of > each month) or at the next plenary meeting, whichever comes first. It > is particularly interesting woking with GPUS during this presidential > election year. For consideration, delegation co-chair should receive > the bio at least 3 days before scheduled meeting. > > For further information or questions, you can contact me, at > sanda at greens.org. > Thank you for considering increasing your participation in our party! > > Sanda Everette > co-chair, CA delegation > > _______________________________________________ > Contacts2006 mailing list > Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From JamBoi at Greens.org Sun Mar 30 00:12:14 2008 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Alameda Co restructuring proposal for the GPCA Coordinating Committee Message-ID: <3515.38.99.84.36.1206861134.squirrel@www.greens.org> Subject: [G-C-F] Alameda's CC Restructuring Proposals From: Rioryon at aol.com Date: Sat, March 29, 2008 13:25 To: cal-forum at cagreens.org John, Mato, Marc, All, These "restructuring proposals have been discussed a bit already on the CC and Agenda-Team lists, and a number of concerns have been raised in addition to those raised by Mato and Marc (below)... To me, there are several immediate problems with these proposals...: 1) - TIMING - The proposals involve a complete overhaul of the CC, and that should be done with the kind of care that promotes a sustainable solution or outcome... Personally, i don't see that happening now, especially while we're in the middle of an election cycle, when most activists are, or should be, focused on voter outreach, registering voters, raising money, recruiting and supporting candidates, scheduling events, etc... Instead, we are being asked to focus on a significant internal issue, and make a relative snap decision that can't possibly be thoroughly vetted, IMO, in one single General Assembly... Meanwhile, i have no problem with alerting members that this proposal is on the horizon, while referring it to working groups and locals for further comprehensive study and discussion... 2) - DECENTRALIZATION - One of the most important of the 10 Key Values is Decentralization - and for good reason... There is an exceedingly dominant global trend afoot and that is in the direction of a centralizing, global, "new world order"... This fascist trend is prevalent and over-arching everywhere, and it is insidious in the sense that it seeps into even well-meaning progressive organizations (under the banner, "we need to be more efficient")... The allegedly more effecient model proposed here is basically that of a board of directors - composed of 12 members, who will then probably be asked to elect the equivalent of a CEO to coordinate and make the type of executive decisions that won't require consensus-seeking decision-making... It is no secret that Mike Feinstein favors this model, having stated as much on this listserve, and thus it is not surprising that his allies in Alameda are bringing forth this proposal now, shortly after Mike Feinstein has been replaced by new CC co-coordinators (Christina Olague, Adrienne Prince, Larry Mullen)... So we are now being asked to *centralize* the CC from approximately 32 reps and alts, to a 12 member board, with NO ALTERNATES...! Furthermore, there is a VERY good chance that the new CC co-cos, who, in the brief period they've been at their posts, have been operating in a new spirit of teamwork and inclusiveness, and may be able to bring improved functionality back to the CC... Shouldn't we at least give them that opportunity ?! 3) - PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION - One of the most egregious problems i have with the restructuring proposals is the creation of completely artificial north and south regions from which members will be elected to this newly restructured board -- 6 members from the north and 6 members from the south... And yet if you look at the registration figures there are currently 127,000 Greens in California... Approximately 84,000 from the north and approximately 43,000 from the south...!! Proportional representation(PR) is one of the most, if not THE most important electoral reforms we can advocate for as Greens... How can we in good faith advocate for PR if we don't practice it internally as well ?? 4) - John Morton writes, speaking of the proposed restructuring : "This is the only proposed solution on the agenda to an urgent problem that has been getting worse, so please discuss it with your County's delegates." It is just NOT true that "this is the *only* proposed solution on the agenda"... In fact, the Standing General Assembly(SGA) has been proposed previously and is on the agenda for further discussion... and a decision, if the GA so desires... The SGA does not abuse the value of Decentralization... The SGA does not abuse the practice of Proportional Representation... The SGA leaves the concept of Grassroots Democracy intact by allowing the General Assembly delegates (elected by local Grassroots counties) a way of making decisions in between face-to-face meetings... The SGA provides for direct oversight of the CC by the GA without requiring a complete, time-consuming (if we want to do it right and do it sustainably) overhaul of our current structure... Peace/Unity tim smith rioryon at aol.com In a message dated 3/29/2008 11:00:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, jlm108 at yahoo.com writes: Message: 3 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:52:27 -0700 (PDT) From: John Morton Subject: [G-C-F] Renewal of the GPCA To: CAL-Forum Message-ID: <735863.3062.qm at web51807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 California Greens, This is a crucial time for the GPCA. With the growing understanding by the voting public that the country is on the wrong track, it should be a time of growth and outreach for the party. However, the reverse has been true as our registration and voter numbers decline, as valued members abandon GPCA activities, and as party functions become more sporadic and distracted at the state level. Over the past several years, we have seen the state Coordinating Committee, the executive body of the GPCA between Plenaries, become increasingly dysfunctional, unable to properly do its administrative work for the General Assembly. Although the roots of the dysfunction go back to 2001, it was at the Sylmar Plenary in May 2005, where long hours were spent arguing over the agenda before business could begin, that the extent of the problem became obvious. This was reinforced by the failure of the CC to schedule any plenary at all in January 2007, as they argued over minutia. In frustration, a proposal to ?reboot? the entire CC membership was presented from the floor at the San Francisco Plenary in May 2007, achieving 77% of the 80% necessary to pass. And at last December?s plenary in Riverside, both before, during, and after, the disarray has continued. We think that the major reason why the CC has drifted into factionalism and not been able to carry out its most basic functions is because its behavior has not been held directly accountable to the state party. Rather, since individual CC members are elected by obscure "regions?, collections of neighboring counties with no formal political structure, they need only convince a handful of active Greens in their own region that they are doing a good job in order to keep their seat on the CC. They have little incentive to make the interests of the entire state party their paramount priority, because they are not electorally accountable to the state party as a whole. The General Assembly, delegates of the County Parties and the highest authority in the GPCA, would be irresponsible to allow this crippling situation to continue. So the Green Party of Alameda County has put a pair of relevant proposals on the agenda of the April 5-6 Plenary to be held at the UC Berkeley campus. The basic idea is to take the election of CC members away from the artificial ?regions?, and give it back to either the General Assembly itself, for whom the CC exercises its fiduciary authority, or to the County Councils (by online vote), the publicly elected foundation of the GPCA. We believe that either of these proposals would correct a major structural flaw in the party, and help reverse the trend toward increasing divisiveness and preoccupation with personal power in the most influential committee of the GPCA. Please review these two Bylaws change proposals, consider their merits and weaknesses, and be prepared vote on them at the upcoming Plenary. The presenters are willing to entertain friendly amendments, so please contact us if you have questions or suggestions to help improve the language. The proposals can be found on the GPCA website in the Plenary Agenda packet at http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/archives/agendas/0804proposals.pdf, under ?Proposal #1 ? Bylaw on CC Elections? and ?Proposal #2 ? Bylaw on CC Elections?. The winning proposal will need an 80% vote to pass. This is the only proposed solution on the agenda to an urgent problem that has been getting worse, so please discuss it with your County?s delegates. Thank you for your attention to the ongoing evolution of the Green Party of California at this crucial time in our history. /On behalf of the Green Party of Alameda County In a message dated 3/29/2008 11:00:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, m_zehr at hotmail.com writes: Message: 5 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:38:31 -0600 From: Martin Zehr Subject: Re: [G-C-F] Renewal of the GPCA To: John Morton , California Greens Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" John, Personally I would recommend that county party organizations come to some agreement on how to address this issue. I would encourage establishing more paid staffers so that accountability can be defined contractually and consistency and qualifications can be based on the need to increase the party's voter registration and candidate recruitment. I am NOT suggesting it doesn't have pitfalls as well, but we need to recognize the administrative tasks that we need to address to maintain the influence of the GPCA and to play a greater role on behalf of our supporters and voters. Outreach includes voter registration, candidate recruitment, financial support for candidates and the party's local bodies, legislative lobbying, building electoral and issue coalitons, and get-out-the-vote efforts. Moving beyond the advocacy group mentality of the last twenty years means focusing on the strategies and vision that brings forward new blocs of voters to support the Platform and candidates. No political party can survive if it fails to deliver victories to its constituents or to demonstrate its ability to promote REAL change. The weakness lies not in acting as a state organization; it goes beyond that. It goes to the point of failing to act as an organization once we come to a decision. It is in our interest to increase our influence by acting in unity. Why is the old motto: IN UNITY THERE IS STRENGTH so abhorent to so many party officials and representatives? We marginalize our own ability to have our voices impact on decisions and policies if we fail to establsih priorities, whether they are statewide or by county, and act in unison to accomplish them. Mato Ska GPSF In a message dated 3/29/2008 11:00:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, marc at cybre.net writes: Message: 6 Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:06:04 -0700 From: marc Subject: Re: [G-C-F] Renewal of the GPCA To: John Morton Cc: CAL-Forum Message-ID: <47EE68EC.7020305 at cybre.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed The reason Sylmar melted down was not due to CC dysfunction, rather due to Peter Camejo's insistence on forcing the GA to devote time to his GDI jihad. In no other party would the primary governing body (GA) allow a former candidate who had run against the party's presidential ticket to hijack a plenary with intent to dictate the terms of his reintegration into the party. John is correct that the GPCA-CC was further dysfunctional after Sylmar. During the few months that I served on the CC, it was used as a proxy for other faction fights, fights largely carried out by the trotskyoid faction within the party. The notion of having the GA select GPCA-CC members is flawed because the factionalism also runs north/south, and a GA election of CC members would just teeter back and forth depending on where the plenary was located in the state which selected CC members. I would prefer to devolve the matter of selecting GPCA (and GPUS) delegations to county councils based on registration. In SF, of course, the CC would further devolve the elections to the general membership. Whatever we come up with, we are going to need to trotsky-proof the party so that the GPCA (and GPUS for that matter) don't end up on the scrap pile of organizations divided by trotskyists and other sectarian vanguard leftists. At the end of the day, there needs to be so little that can be "taken" of one gets a majority on the GPCA-CC so as to make such efforts not worth the while. -marc From JamBoi at Greens.org Sun Mar 30 00:14:40 2008 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FWD: Renewal of the GPCA Message-ID: <1110.38.99.84.36.1206861280.squirrel@www.greens.org> ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [G-C-F] Renewal of the GPCA From: "John Morton" Date: Sat, March 29, 2008 12:37 To: "California Greens" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mato, Yes, there is plenty we should be doing now. And paid professional staff is a great idea, one that was also promoted by Kenny Mostern when he was Treasurer of the GPCA a year or two back. But take a look at this year's budget and tell me where you would find any money for paid staff? Fundraising has dropped off precipitously under the chaotic "leadership" of the current CC. There are plenty of good ideas to move the GPCA forward at this crucial time in history, but until we clean up our administrative infrastructure, precious few of any of them will ever be put into practice. John Morton --- Martin Zehr wrote: > > John, > Personally I would recommend that county party > organizations come to some agreement on how to > address this issue. I would encourage establishing > more paid staffers so that accountability can be > defined contractually and consistency and > qualifications can be based on the need to increase > the party's voter registration and candidate > recruitment. I am NOT suggesting it doesn't have > pitfalls as well, but we need to recognize the > administrative tasks that we need to address to > maintain the influence of the GPCA and to play a > greater role on behalf of our supporters and voters. > Outreach includes voter registration, candidate > recruitment, financial support for candidates and > the party's local bodies, legislative lobbying, > building electoral and issue coalitons, and > get-out-the-vote efforts. Moving beyond the advocacy > group mentality of the last twenty years means > focusing on the strategies and vision that brings > forward new blocs of voters to support the Platform > and candidates. No political party can survive if it > fails to deliver victories to its constituents or to > demonstrate its ability to promote REAL change. > > The weakness lies not in acting as a state > organization; it goes beyond that. It goes to the > point of failing to act as an organization once we > come to a decision. It is in our interest to > increase our influence by acting in unity. Why is > the old motto: IN UNITY THERE IS STRENGTH so > abhorent to so many party officials and > representatives? We marginalize our own ability to > have our voices impact on decisions and policies if > we fail to establsih priorities, whether they are > statewide or by county, and act in unison to > accomplish them. > > Mato Ska > GPSF > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:52:27 -0700 > > From: jlm108 at yahoo.com > > To: cal-forum at cagreens.org > > Subject: [G-C-F] Renewal of the GPCA > > > > California Greens, > > > > This is a crucial time for the GPCA. With the > growing > > understanding by the voting public that the > country is > > on the wrong track, it should be a time of growth > and > > outreach for the party. However, the reverse has > been > > true as our registration and voter numbers > decline, as > > valued members abandon GPCA activities, and as > party > > functions become more sporadic and distracted at > the > > state level. > > > > Over the past several years, we have seen the > state > > Coordinating Committee, the executive body of the > GPCA > > between Plenaries, become increasingly > dysfunctional, > > unable to properly do its administrative work for > the > > General Assembly. Although the roots of the > > dysfunction go back to 2001, it was at the Sylmar > > Plenary in May 2005, where long hours were spent > > arguing over the agenda before business could > begin, > > that the extent of the problem became obvious. > This > > was reinforced by the failure of the CC to > schedule > > any plenary at all in January 2007, as they argued > > over minutia. In frustration, a proposal to > ?reboot? > > the entire CC membership was presented from the > floor > > at the San Francisco Plenary in May 2007, > achieving > > 77% of the 80% necessary to pass. And at last > > December?s plenary in Riverside, both before, > during, > > and after, the disarray has continued. > > > > We think that the major reason why the CC has > drifted > > into factionalism and not been able to carry out > its > > most basic functions is because its behavior has > not > > been held directly accountable to the state party. > > Rather, since individual CC members are elected by > > obscure "regions?, collections of neighboring > counties > > with no formal political structure, they need only > > convince a handful of active Greens in their own > > region that they are doing a good job in order to > keep > > their seat on the CC. They have little incentive > to > > make the interests of the entire state party their > > paramount priority, because they are not > electorally > > accountable to the state party as a whole. > > > > The General Assembly, delegates of the County > Parties > > and the highest authority in the GPCA, would be > > irresponsible to allow this crippling situation to > > continue. So the Green Party of Alameda County has > > put a pair of relevant proposals on the agenda of > the > > April 5-6 Plenary to be held at the UC Berkeley > > campus. The basic idea is to take the election of > CC > > members away from the artificial ?regions?, and > give > > it back to either the General Assembly itself, for > > whom the CC exercises its fiduciary authority, or > to > > the County Councils (by online vote), the publicly > > elected foundation of the GPCA. > > > > We believe that either of these proposals would > > correct a major structural flaw in the party, and > help > > reverse the trend toward increasing divisiveness > and > > preoccupation with personal power in the most > > influential committee of the GPCA. Please review > > these two Bylaws change proposals, consider their > > merits and weaknesses, and be prepared vote on > them at > > the upcoming Plenary. The presenters are willing > to > > entertain friendly amendments, so please contact > us if > > you have questions or suggestions to help improve > the > > language. The proposals can be found on the GPCA > > website in the Plenary Agenda packet at > > > http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/archives/agendas/0804proposals.pdf, > > under ?Proposal #1 ? Bylaw on CC Elections? and > > ?Proposal #2 ? Bylaw on CC Elections?. > > > > The winning proposal will need an 80% vote to > pass. > > This is the only proposed solution on the agenda > to an > > urgent problem that has been getting worse, so > please > > discuss it with your County?s delegates. > > > > Thank you for your attention to the ongoing > evolution > > of the Green Party of California at this crucial > time > > in our history. > > > > /On behalf of the Green Party of Alameda County From JamBoi at Greens.org Sun Mar 30 00:38:42 2008 From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Web Developer Needed Message-ID: <1401.38.99.84.36.1206862722.squirrel@www.greens.org> As hard as things are out there right now I hope no one will mind me posting this wanted ad forwarded from a friend of mine. Green is Sustainable! 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As most of you may know about my habits, blogging and all, note that I did not turn on the computer at all yesterday. Actually got to the place where I fired up the generator on our RV with a connection to the refrigerator and freeze, though it turned out not to have been necessary. I had them running for about 30 minutes when the lights came back on. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 30 14:48:00 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:48:00 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Focus Message-ID: <47F00A90.1080207@sbcglobal.net> I have ordered one bundle, 200 copies, of the next Green Focus. There was a 3/24 deadline Due to a low level of response a follow up email was sent by Hugh Moore which I responded to right away. Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 30 16:16:29 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:16:29 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items for Thursday Message-ID: <47F01F4D.3050409@sbcglobal.net> The next monthly meeting is upon us. Please submit your requests for agenda items. Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 31 14:26:15 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:26:15 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: [GPCA Official Notice] Plenary Registration Reminder Message-ID: <003b01c89375$da630bc0$4101a8c0@JIMSDESKTOP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "County Contacts" To: "County Contacts" Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:56 PM Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Plenary Registration Reminder > GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE > > This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, > or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. > Follow the contact directions > stated in the email. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Please circulate as appropriate. > > > REGISTRATION FOR THE APRIL GENERAL ASSEMBLY CLOSING SOON > > > Registration for the Green Party's April 5-6 General Assembly in Alameda > County will close this Wednesday, as will the delegate submission page. > > Registration is currently sparse. Early registration helps the host > committee and the CC prepare the event. Please help create a successful > meeting by registering online at > > http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ > > County Councils please remember to submit your delegate list online, also. > ------------------------------- > > > There is also a second addendum to the agenda packet. Please download this > document at > > http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/packet.html > > This addendum is an analysis by the Bylaws Committee of the CC > restructuring > proposal in the agenda packet. > > > _______________________________________________ > Contacts2006 mailing list > Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 31 22:25:12 2008 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:25:12 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda (2) Message-ID: <47F1C738.4050304@sbcglobal.net> The next monthly meeting is upon us. Please submit your requests for agenda items. Jim Doyle