From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May  1 00:02:00 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 00:02:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GP RELEASE Green Party election advances in Ariz., Conn.,
 Maine, Mich.
Message-ID: <2797.38.99.84.36.1209625320.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [usgp-media] GP RELEASE Green Party election advances in Ariz.,
Conn., Maine, Mich.
From:    "Scott McLarty" <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
Date:    Wed, April 30, 2008 23:24
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GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES
http://www.gp.org

For Immediate Release:
Thursday, May 1, 2008

Contacts:
Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624,
cell 202-904-7614, mclarty at greens.org
Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805,
starlene at gp.org


Green Party election update: ballot status in
Arizona; record number of legislative candidates
in Maine; statewide meetings in Connecticut and
Michigan apportion delegates for Chicago
convention


WASHINGTON, DC -- Green Parties in states
throughout the US are preparing for the party's
National Nomination Convention ("Live Green, Vote
Green"), to take place in Chicago, Illinois, July
10-13.

836 delegates will attend the convention to
choose the Green Party's 2008 national nominees
(http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/Delegation-Size.php).
 Green Party members are working hard to get 51
ballot lines (50 states and the District of
Columbia) for the Green nominees on Election Day.

For 2008 Green Party campaign news, visit:
http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/index.shtml

Here are some updates:

? ARIZONA (http://www.azgp.org) The Arizona Green
Party achieved ballot status in April after an
aggressive effort.  This is the third time that
Arizona Greens won a place on the state's ballot,
after 1992 and 2000.

Greens hope to receive at least 5% of the Arizona
vote in the 2008 general election, which would
give the party official recognition for the next
election cycle.  Arizona Greens can also maintain
ballot status if at least 0.66 percent of voters
register Green as of November 1, 2009.

"Arizona Greens have much to celebrate.  This
month [April 2008], we achieved ballot status for
the third time in our history.  And we will soon
celebrate the 18 year anniversary of the Arizona
Green Party -- the party was founded in May,
1990.  We are in the process of recruiting
candidates for state legislature and Congress.
This is the moment that we have been waiting
for!" said Angel Torres, co-chair of the Arizona
Green Party.

More details: Arizona Republic article:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/04/20/20080420greens0420.html


? CONNECTICUT
(http://www.ctgreens.org/index.shtml) Party
members attending the Annual Convention of the
Green Party of Connecticut on April 26 voted for
presidential candidates and delegates to the
Green National Convention.  The statewide meeting
was held at the Greater New Haven Central Labor
Council in New Haven.

Cynthia McKinney received 33 votes, Kat Swift
three votes, Jesse Johnson two votes, and Kent
Mesplay two votes.  Those vote will be divided
among the delegates to the convention.  Write-in
votes included six for independent candidate and
native son Ralph Nader, and one each for two
others.  Connecticut Greens will send 20
delegates to the national convention, to be
apportionate according to the April 26 vote.

Speaking at the event were first-time
congressional candidates Stephen Fournier, 1st
Congressional District
(http://www.fournierforcongress.org), Scott
Deshefy, 2nd District
(http://www.newmenu.org/deshefy4congress_ct); and
Richard Duffee, 4th District
(http://richardduffee.com).  Harold Burbank, 5th
District (http://www.newmenu.org/haroldburbank)
did not attend the meeting.


? MAINE (http://www.mainegreens.org) The Maine
Green Independent Party is running a record
number of candidates for state legislature, with
three candidates for State Senate (which has 35
seats) and ten candidates for State House of
Representatives (151 seats).

In 2006 the party ran two State Senate
candidates, and eight State House candidates.
John Eder served as a member of the Maine House
from 2002 to 2006, the Green Party's most recent
state legislator.

The Maine Green Independent Party is the largest
Green Party in the US in terms of percentage of
the electorate, with 3% of Maine voters
registered Green.

Maine Greens will hold their 2008 annual state
convention in Yarmouth on May 18, at which they
will select 44 delegates to the national
convention.  In the caucuses held earlier this
year Cynthia McKinney took about 80% of the
votes.  Greens who did not have the opportunity
to attend the caucuses will have another
opportunity to vote at the Convention.

For more information, visit the party's web site
(http://www.mainegreens.org).  Inquiries can be
sent to info at mainegreens.org .


? MICHIGAN (http://www.migreens.org) The Green
Party of Michigan, at its statewide meeting on
April 19 in Romulus, unanimously agreed on ten
men and nine women to serve as delegates to the
Green Party's 2008 presidential nominating
convention in Chicago, July 10-13.

Elections co-ordinator John Anthony La Pietra
announced the results of a statewide membership
poll taken to bind the delegates' votes on the
first ballot in Chicago.  Former Georgia
Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney received 64%,
earning 13 delegates.  Consumer advocate Ralph
Nader (who announced an independent campaign in
February) finished second with 17% of the vote
and three delegates.  Kent Mesplay of California
and Kat Swift of Texas earned one delegate each;
one vote in the delegation will go to the
convention uncommitted.

The poll also invited party members to list their
preferences beyond first choice.  Mr. La Pietra
reported detailed alternative results (counted
using instant-runoff voting and approval voting)
which delegates may use to help determine their
votes after the first ballot in Chicago.


? Statewide meetings were also held by the
Mountain Party in West Virginia
(http://www.mtparty.org) and the North Carolina
Green Party (http://www.ncgreenparty.org).
Reports from these meetings will be published
soon.


MORE INFORMATION

Green Party of the United States
http://www.gp.org
202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN
Fax 202-319-7193
? Video of Green presidential candidates
http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/presidential-videos.php
? Links to Green Presidential Candidates' web
sites
http://www.gp.org/committees/pcsc/index.shtml
? Green candidate database for 2007 and other
campaign information:
http://www.gp.org/elections.shtml
? Green Party News Center
http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml
? Green Party Speakers Bureau
http://www.gp.org/speakers
? Green Party ballot access page
http://www.gp.org/2008-elections
? 2008 Green National Convention: Live Green,
Vote Green
http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/index.shtml
? Media credentialing
http://www.gp.org/committees/media/kit.shtml

Candidates for the Green Party's 2008
presidential nomination:
? Jesse Johnson, http://www.jesse08.org
? Cynthia McKinney, http://www.runcynthiarun.org
? Kent Mesplay, http://www.mesplay.org
? Kat Swift, http://www.voteswift.org


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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu May  1 00:12:24 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 00:12:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] About that economic stimulus package.
Message-ID: <48196D58.5020008@aceweb.com>

Surely you've seen those funny emails about how hard it is to do 
something productive with that money that mainstream media rumors
claim is coming our way. I've thought about what would be a good
investment for it, and this is what I came up with:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/My/Nook/NewShoes.shtml

Actually, I was due for shoes. The timing was just a coincidence.
I was hoping to have them for Earth Day, so I could brag about
my locally made footwear while tabling. Unfortunately, the cobbler
slipped his schedule like everybody else in this valley. They are
here now though.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
4/29: I wore my new shoes to the teach in on the Middle East
in San Jose. It was the first time they left Mountain View,
since they were made here last week by a cobbler with a shop
downtown. He's the one eating my economic stimulus package money.


From wrolley at charter.net  Thu May  1 08:18:45 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 08:18:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] About that economic stimulus package.
In-Reply-To: <48196D58.5020008@aceweb.com>
References: <48196D58.5020008@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4819DF55.500@charter.net>

Tian Harter wrote:

Great story, Tian.  It should be spread far and wide.  Ultimately, it is 
probably more important than all of the strikes and demonstrations today.

Wes

> Surely you've seen those funny emails about how hard it is to do 
> something productive with that money that mainstream media rumors
> claim is coming our way. I've thought about what would be a good
> investment for it, and this is what I came up with:
>
> http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/My/Nook/NewShoes.shtml
>
> Actually, I was due for shoes. The timing was just a coincidence.
> I was hoping to have them for Earth Day, so I could brag about
> my locally made footwear while tabling. Unfortunately, the cobbler
> slipped his schedule like everybody else in this valley. They are
> here now though.
>   


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu May  1 09:26:13 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] is this working?
Message-ID: <843266.64181.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have beentrying to get to be able to post things here without bothering other people to post them for me. Is this working?
  Caroline
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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Thu May  1 10:45:47 2008
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 1 May 2008 17:45:47 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] is this working?
Message-ID: <20080501174547.17642.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


Yes.  This electronic mailing list "belongs" to
Tian Harter and myself.  It runs on a computer the
Green Party of California rents, in Santa Rosa.
The list is managed by GNU Mailman 2.1, one of
the Internet's most popular email list management
software packages.  Underneath Mailman, we use
a very solid software package called Postfix to receive the
postings and broadcast the copies to each subscriber.
Postfix keeps a log of everything in or out,
for a couple of weeks.

There's a standard address for owners of Internet
mailing lists.  sosfbay-discuss-owner at cagreens.org,
in this case, forwards to both of us.

Over the years, GP mailing lists have been plagued
with marginally abusive posters, and we've evolved some
rules you may not have seen before.  Most of our lists
reject postings with more than one or two addresses
showing in their "To" or "Cc" header fields.
That's because of one of the more common abuses.
Rude people would list sosfbay-discuss (etc) among
dozens of other addresses, including other mailing lists.
Then careless people would hit that big, colorful
"Reply-to-all" button, and all of a sudden all those
addresses would be conscripted into a giant, ad-hoc
"mailing list" with no way to unsubscribe.  And the
messages on such lists tend to be stuff nobody wants.
The limit on "To" and "Cc" keeps sosfbay-discuss
out of those pile-ups.  If what you wrote is worth
fifty people's time to read, it is worth a few seconds
of your time to save it in your "drafts" folder and
then send a copy to here alone.  If you're in the habit
of using "Reply-to-all," fine.  Just *add* the habit of
deleting all those extra recipient addresses from the
new message before you send it.

We also have the same problem every other email operation
in the world faces.  Over 99% of email messages sent are
junk.  Identity theft attempts, sugar pills from India,
hostile software that attacks Microsoft Windows systems.
We try to avoid rejecting it by its *content*, and focus
instead on its *origin* and subtle mistakes the spammers'
software makes that legitimate software doesn't.
That way we can discuss women's freedom and health
issues that would trigger "parental controls" on a
consumer entertainment oriented service.  Among other things.

Sometimes legitimate senders' software makes those
same mistakes and we reject their messages.  That's
called a "false positive."  Your software always tells you
what we said the reason was, but there are lots of numbers
and punctuation marks surrounding it and it's easy to miss.
Usually the rejection contains the URL
http://www.greens.org/delist where you can paste in
that reason, and we can get started fixing our problem
or finding a way to work around yours.  Since the email
is completely under our control, we can just about always
accommodate any peculiar sender, *once we know there's
a problem*.  We've got options no commercial email provider has.
So when your email doesn't go through, fill out the form.


Cameron
"postmaster" at cagreens.org





From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu May  1 12:17:21 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:17:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] windfalls
Message-ID: <190398.72305.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The Mercury News had an article recently telling how California Controller John Chiang is trying to connect Californians with money that is owed them from many sources. If you go to www.ClaimIt.ca.gov, you might discover that you have money coming to you that you didn't know about. I went there, and I don't, but if any of you do have money coming, perhaps you could donate it to the Green Party. It wouldn't hurt, since you weren't expecting it anyway. Just a thought.
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu May  1 18:34:14 2008
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 21:34:14 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] So Much For Our 'Conversation' About Race
Message-ID: <8CA7A0BC34C08A2-16D0-36A9@webmail-ne09.sysops.aol.com>


See below a link to my blog post on the latest Jeremiah Wright thing.? 

Alex Walker 
Los Angeles Greens 


?



So
Much For Our 'Conversation' On Race



by Alex Walker 



Posted on Green Commons, May 1, 2008



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When everybody started saying "Let's have a conversation
about race", I wrote a blog post saying "No, Let's Not." (see on
Green Commons Let's
Talk About Race? NO! Let's Not on January 26th). My first post was a
reaction to Uzodinma Iweala's Op-Ed in the Los Angeles Times, "Racism
in 'Post Racial' America" (with 'post racial' in quotes) criticizing
the "media-concocted fiction" that "not speaking about race is
the equivalent of making progress."



 



I still say: No! No! No!



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Every time this produces a net gain for
conservatives by reminding "Reagan Democrats" why they abandoned the
party of F.D.R. for the party of George Bush. 



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If I am the only African-American progressive
opposing this farce, so be it. U.S. politics has been stuck in this rut for
more than thirty years and it is very hard to resist being pulled into it. I,
like Barack, allowed myself to get suckered into defending Wright. 



?



One reason I left the Democrats and joined the Green
Party was because I am one African-American sick of "race"
games. If Barack sincerely wanted to "transform" U.S. politics, it's
already clear he cannot within the framework of our cursed Democrat-Republican
politics where "social issues" always substitute for bringing up hard
questions offending corporate interests. The Boston Globe editorial
was more honest than most in Rev.
Wright, the sequel: "The Illinois senator has made a career... of
promoting common understanding among those who might distrust each other. To
see those efforts bogging down in the same old swamp is just depressing."



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That's the depressing "swamp" of
Democratic-Republican politics.



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Read More on Green Commons at: 



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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May  2 09:18:32 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:18:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Carol's campaign is highlighted on GP.org
Message-ID: <2745.38.99.84.36.1209745112.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Check out http://gp.org  where our own Carol Brouillet's congressional
campaign is getting some national/international Green love as the
currently featured Green '08 candidate in the GP banner ad top center of
their page.

Note that the Green Party of Santa Clara Co. has endorsed Carol and Peter
Meyer's '08 campaign which makes them eligible for a bit 'o funding from
the GPCA when it comes available (probably after august according to
Warner).  Since the 14th CD covers parts of Santa Clara, Santa Cruz AND
San Mateo, I'd urge the San Mateo Greens to also endorse Carol Brouillet's
'08 campaign.  Also of course San Mateo will want to endorse Barry
Hermanson for this reason.  Once the endorsements are done Warner says
someone from the County Council needs to send an e-mail to him for
official endorsement notification.


Green is Together!

Drew



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May  2 10:40:28 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calif. Green congressional candidates back ILWU's
	antiwar protest
Message-ID: <2794.38.99.84.36.1209750028.squirrel@www.greens.org>

News Advisory
THE GREEN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA
http://www.cagreens.org

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Contact:  Susan King, spokesperson, 415.823-5524,
sking at cagreens.org
Dr. Robert Vizzard, spokesperson, 916.206 8953,
rvizzard at cagreens.org
Daniel Brezenoff, spokesperson, 310.422-2211,
dbrezenoff at cagreens.org
Cres Vellucci, GPCA press secretary,
916.996-9170, cvellucci at cagreens.org


Green Party congressional candidates ?applaud'
ILWU work stoppage at SF & West Coast ports on
May 1 to protest wars in Iraq, Afghanistan


SAN FRANCISCO, Ca. (April 30, 2008) ? Green Party
congressional candidates said today they
"applaud" the ILWU work stoppage scheduled May 1
here and at other California ports to protest the
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

ILWU West Coast longshore workers vow to stop
work May 1, and have called on the AFL-CIO,
Change to Win and other labor organizations to
join them May Day against the war and to
commemorate International Workers Holiday. Dock
workers were brutalized by police in a similar
protest in Oakland in 2003.

In San Francisco, laborers and supporters will
rally in the morning at the Longshore Hall and
march to Justin Herman Plaza for a Noon rally.
The action moves to a military recruiting center
and then to Delores Park for a 2 p.m. Immigrants'
Rights May Day March. There's another action at
the Oakland Ports later Thursday. Actions at
other ports were also scheduled..

"The acts of the ILWU, in contrast to those of
the Democratic leadership, show more clearly than
ever that neither of the major two parties in
America care about representing the American
people; both parties are in love with the idea of
an overbearing and belligerent America that
attempts to dominate the rest of the world," said
Peter Myers (http://www.myersforcalifornia.com),
candidate in the 15th CD (Campbell).

"The Democratic Congress under Nancy Pelosi is
full of hypocrisy.  Many Representatives say they
oppose the continued occupation of Iraq, but vote
for continued funding. That's why I'm running
against Dem. Mike Thompson, who typifies this
sort of hypocrisy. I applaud the ILWU action. We
need strong examples of protest (to) the ongoing
horrors in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Carol
Wolman (http://www.carolwolmanforcongress.com),
candidate in CD 1 (North Coast).

"Giving President Bush all the money he wants to
wage war is outrageous and only serves the
interests of war profiteers and oil companies.
Congress should take ILWU's lead. If Congress
were actually serving the people, members would
cut the war funding and begin impeachment
hearings immediately, before Bush could expand
the war into Iran," said Carol Brouillet
(www.carolforcongress.org), candidate in CD 14
(Santa Clara/Palo Alto).

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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri May  2 12:52:32 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 12:52:32 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] So Much For Our 'Conversation' About Race
In-Reply-To: <8CA7A0BC34C08A2-16D0-36A9@webmail-ne09.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CA7A0BC34C08A2-16D0-36A9@webmail-ne09.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <481B7100.50102@aceweb.com>

I tried to post this comment, but it won't let me for some reason:

I saw some footage of Rev. Wright on the PBS News Hour. He briefly
mentioned something to the effect that "we deserved 9/11." (I'm
paraphrasing) He also said something like "I speak for the Black Church,
not Barak Obama."  His words got me thinking "At least this is an
American voice speaking for a decentralized institution." A big
improvement on the Pope in Rome speaking for the Catholic-Americans.
Then I thought "nobody else on the campaign trail is saying that."
Hillary and McCain are pandering with talk of a gas tax holiday.
I'm liking Barak's entourage more and more, even if he is spineless
enough to disown them for speaking truth to power.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
"In California, we say don't wait for Washington, because Washington is
asleep at the wheel" Governor Schwarzenegger on climate change progress.




From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat May  3 09:17:52 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:17:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [BASC Chat] Big Computer Virus Coming (No
	Joke)
Message-ID: <892475.83808.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  3 10:19:17 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 10:19:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] project vote smart
Message-ID: <481C9E95.9090408@sbcglobal.net>

Project Vote Smart will be in San Jose in August.We should be there -
site TBD - to show our support.
Here is the announcement I have received:

Dear Project Member,
Our bus is heading towards your state.  Here is the tentative schedule 
we have put together thus far:

August 19: San Francisco
August 20: San Jose

*DEMOCRAT NATIONAL CONVENTION, DENVER, CO AUGUST 24-28
*REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION, MINNEAPOLIS, MN SEPTEMBER 1-4

As you can see from our schedule our great Purple Bus Tour is coming to 
your area.  We will let you know specifics as we have everything set.  
In the meantime we are very interested in any assistance you might 
provide.  First, we need members who can help set up a good location 
and/or tie-in event on the date listed where we can put the bus.  It is 
essential that the location be centrally located to make it easy for the 
media to attend and hopefully some place where there will be good 
pedestrian traffic so that people will take a minute to come in and see 
the incredible Voter's Self-Defense System we have all helped create.

The bus of course has free wi-fi, computer terminals and a movie theater 
to help show people how it all works. In addition, we have a couple of 
fun items traveling with the bus and need a couple of members to 
volunteer to help with.  One, is and enormous rolling flag where voters 
can send messages to candidates about their behavior - it will be 
delivered in Washington, D.C. election week.  Two, is an enormous dart 
board, where citizens can pop balloons with the mudslinger comments made 
during this campaign and expose the real issues that hide underneath.

Please reply to this email if you think you can help set up a stop for 
our bus in your area.  Thank you so much for your support.

Richard Kimball and Jon Arnold
Project Vote Smart



From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Sat May  3 11:29:23 2008
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 3 May 2008 18:29:23 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [BASC Chat] Big Computer Virus Coming
	(No Joke)
Message-ID: <20080503182923.25578.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


If it says "Please forward this to all your friends right away," don't.
It's a chain letter.  Break the chain.

Yes there is a "postcard virus."  No, it is not new and different.
It's just one of several dangerous email worms.
No, it will not damage your hard drive.  Yes, it can severely damage
your Microsoft Windows file system that calls itself "drive C:."

So can lots of other email worms.  If you choose to use Microsoft
Windows, you have chosen a life long battle against email worms
and other malicious software.  It's got by far the worst malware
problem of any brand of operating system.  You should be prepared
to lose that battle now and then.  Back up any files you can't
afford to lose.  Keep your installation disks and be ready to
reinstall your system.  Microsoft Windows just kills itself sometimes!
Removing an email worm payload can be far more difficult than
just reinstalling.  Reinstalling is the only *sure* cure.  Being
able to do that is more important than fooling around with
"anti virus" stuff.

About four years ago the Green Party of Santa Clara County
endorsed my project of distributing alternatives to the
commercial software monopoly.  Since then, major products of
the free software community have been part of our tabling
literature and we've given away dozens of office suites,
Internet suites, and complete operating system distributions.
I try to keep a set on the literature rack at the San Jose
Peace Center, but someone keeps taking them.
If the boss says "you must use Microsoft here," fine, that's
the company's headache.  But you do *not* need to put up with it
for the things you do in your life any more.  Advocates of software
freedom tend to oversell the alternatives.  NO software system
is truly debugged and user-friendly.  We can't take all your
software headaches away.  But we can trade you one set of problems
for another, and I truly believe our set is easier to manage.

In particular, I don't know of any Linux virus truly successful
in the wild.  There have been worms that attack servers, but
none has ever succeeded on the "workstation" setup you'd use at
home and on the road.  Zero viruses in seventeen years of trying.
That "postcard virus" only attacks Microsoft systems.  Get a
Macintosh or migrate your PC to the stuff we give away, and you
don't have to worry about that threat any more.

Cameron






From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sat May  3 11:38:56 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] In Oakland & SF On May Day,
	many marchers for many causes
Message-ID: <1783.38.99.84.36.1209839936.squirrel@www.greens.org>

SF march and Rally:
[McKinney refers to the 'Bush-Pelosi war'. ;-)  Love it.  Drew]

McKinney starts about 7:30 into video
Sheehan about 4:20 in
Conally, Glover, others

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BspANxukBgg


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2008/05/02/BA4K10F7K3.DTL
Friday, May 2, 2008 (SF Chronicle)
On May Day, many marchers for many causes
Tyche Hendricks, Carolyn Jones, Charles Burress, Chronicle Staff Writers


   (05-01) 17:42 PDT SAN FRANCISCO - -- The Bay Area celebrated May Day in
traditional fashion Thursday - with an array of protests around the
region: for an end to the war in Iraq, against education budget cuts and
in favor of legalization for undocumented immigrants.
   Dockworkers with the International Longshore and Warehouse Union walked
off the job at ports up and down the West Coast, including Oakland and San
Francisco, calling for an end to the war. Union officials estimated the
number of workers at 25,000 while maritime officials placed the number
closer to 10,000.
   Anti-war protesters, joining dockworkers and other labor leaders, marched
down the Embarcadero from Fisherman's Wharf to Justin Herman Plaza, where
a rally drew several hundred protesters and onlookers.
   Students at San Francisco State University, UC Berkeley and other college
campuses staged walkouts and teach-ins over the state's proposed cuts to
education spending.
   By late afternoon, the attention shifted toward immigrant rights - with
thousands of marchers taking to the streets in San Francisco and Oakland.
   Protesters said they want laws making it easier to work, obtain driver's
licenses and keep families united, without constant fear of deportation.
   This year's marches - in major cities across the United States - did not
rival the huge immigrant rights marches during the spring of 2006, in
which several million protesters took to the streets across the country.
   But immigrant rights advocates are continuing the drumbeat, urging
Congress to pass a comprehensive immigration overhaul that would provide a
path to legal status, and ultimately citizenship, for the estimated 12
million undocumented immigrants living and working in the United States.
   Groups that favor more restrictive immigration policies denounced
Thursday's marches.
   "The U.S. should use Mexico's legal immigration policy as a model, which
would bar burdensome immigrants and would not allow the chain migration of
extended families, so that we can first improve life for those who are
already here legally, U.S. and foreign-born," said Yeh Ling Ling, director
of the Oakland-based Diversity Alliance for a Sustainable America.
   The day of protests began at about dawn at the Port of Oakland, where
dozens of anti-war protesters rallied outside the port's rail terminal.
They waved signs and urged truckers and other port workers to join the
longshore workers in staying off the job, but not try to block their
access.
   "We're here to support the longshore union workers," said Toby Blome of
El
Cerrito who was carrying a large peace symbol fashioned from a hula hoop
and covered in artificial flowers. "This is a very courageous effort
they're doing."
   Operations in Oakland and other West Coast ports ground to a halt
Thursday
after ILWU workers stayed off the job, said Steve Getzug, spokesman for
the Pacific Maritime Association, which represents companies that move
cargo through the ports.
   "There is no activity," he said. "The ILWU struck West Coast ports and
brought cargo operations to a virtual standstill."
   In San Francisco, marchers were urged on by a spirited brass band and led
by the ILWU drill team, wearing taps on their shoes and carrying grappling
hooks in their hands. At Justin Herman Plaza, Clarence Thomas, an ILWU
spokesman, praised the protesters for walking off the job and called on
others to join them.
   "Could you imagine if this were being duplicated in more places in all
the
major sectors of the economy?" he said. "It would send a message that we
want this war to end. It's killing our children and diverting resources
from domestic needs."
   At San Francisco State University, hundreds of students walked out of
classes at noon to protest fee hikes - then ended up blocking traffic on
busy 19th Avenue in front of the campus for about half an hour, said
campus spokeswoman Ellen Griffin.
   The march from Dolores Park to the Civic Center drew an energetic and
youthful crowd of hundreds of people, who walked to chanting and drumming.
Two dozen teenagers led the march, carrying a banner that depicted flags
of all the nations of the Americas - from Canada to Chile. Marchers were
accompanied by a mixture of bouncy Mexican corridos and sing-song chants
in English, including "We are people, we are not illegal."
   Across the bay, hundreds of immigrants and supporters flooded the
Fruitvale BART station for a march to Oakland City Hall for a rally. The
rally featured Aztec dancers, singers and speeches demanding better rights
for immigrants.
   "All we want to do is work and put food on the table," said Jamilent
Canaca, a mother of two from Hayward who works in construction, through a
translator. "But it's very difficult to find employment and support your
family. We still have to struggle, like we're still in a Third World
country."

   IN BUSINESS
   -- Dockworkers on the West Coast brought port operations to a halt for
eight hours in a war protest on May Day. C1

   Chronicle Staff Writer Michael Cabanatuan contributed to this report.
E-mail the writers at thendricks at sfchronicle.com,
carolynjones at sfchronicle.com and
cburress at sfchronicle.com
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Copyright 2008 SF Chronicle





From andid at cagreens.org  Sat May  3 18:33:00 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 18:33:00 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] House Dems ready to fund...through 2009
In-Reply-To: <1151.38.99.84.36.1209620918.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <1151.38.99.84.36.1209620918.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <A91D2070-DCB1-47B5-B4C7-DA708A5D9A73@cagreens.org>

KPFA pointed out that this is a way to fund ahead of time so that the  
politicians don't need to vote more funding JUST BEFORE THE ELECTION.
They know that the majority of the people are against this war and  
any further funding.
They know the people don't want this passed.
They know their jobs are at stake if the people remember at the polls  
that funding just happened.

But they also know that a significant number of people have memories  
shorter than a 30-minute sitcom.
Andi

On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> House Democrats Look To Fund War Through 2009
>
> By Zachary Coile
> The San Francisco Chronicle, April 28, 2008
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/27/ 
> MNCU10BATO.DTL
> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/28/8568/
>
>
> House Democratic leaders are putting together the
> largest Iraq war spending bill yet, a measure
> that is expected to fund the war through the end
> of the Bush presidency and for nearly six months
> into the next president?s term.
>
> The bill, which could be unveiled as early as
> this week, signals that Democrats are resigned to
> the fact they can?t change course in Iraq in the
> final months of President Bush?s term. Instead,
> the party is pinning its hopes of ending the war
> on winning the White House in November.
>
> Bay Area lawmakers, who represent perhaps the
> most anti-war part of the country, acknowledge
> the bill will anger many voters back home.
>
> ?It?s going to be a tough sell to convince people
> in my district that funding the war for six
> months into the new president?s term is the way
> to end the war,? said Rep. Lynn Woolsey,
> D-Petaluma, a leader of the Out of Iraq Caucus
> who plans to oppose the funding. ?It sounds like
> we are paying for something we don?t want.?
>
> The bill is expected to provide $108 billion that
> the White House has requested for the wars in
> Iraq and Afghanistan. Lawmakers who are drafting
> it say it also will include a so-called bridge
> fund of $70 billion to give the new president
> several months of breathing room before having to
> ask Congress for more money.
>
> The debate is shaping up as a key test for House
> Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
>
> The San Francisco Democrat, who opposed the war
> from the start, faces fierce criticism from the
> anti-war left for refusing to cut off funding for
> the war. She?s trying to hold together a caucus
> split between anti-war lawmakers, who?d prefer a
> showdown with the White House, and conservative
> Democrats, who believe cutting off the war
> funding would make the party look weak on
> national security and put its majority at risk.
> Guns-for-butter
>
> Pelosi is plotting a ?guns-for-butter? strategy
> to try to force Bush to accept some new domestic
> spending in exchange for the money he needs to
> fight the war. The speaker is floating a proposal
> to extend unemployment benefits for 13 weeks for
> those whose benefits have run out. The package
> also could include a new GI Bill benefit to help
> veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan pay for
> college.
>
> Bush is already vowing to veto any spending that
> goes over his $108 billion request. House
> Republicans, eager for an election-year fight
> with Democrats over spending, are pledging to
> back up his veto threat.
>
> ?We?re going to insist that this is about funding
> the troops and nothing else,? House Minority
> Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said last week.
>
> Pelosi has been trying to ease tensions within
> her caucus over the bill. Anti-war lawmakers -
> including Woolsey, Rep. Maxine Waters of Los
> Angeles and Rep. Barbara Lee of Oakland - met
> with the speaker last week to urge her to keep
> the votes on war spending and domestic spending
> separate.
>
> ?We raised concerns,? Lee said. ?It just wouldn?t
> make sense to force (members of Congress) to
> choose between providing food stamps for people
> who are hurting and need help during this
> terrible time and funding an occupation that
> people do not support.?
>
> House leaders may be able to get around the issue
> by splitting the votes. Last May, Democrats used
> a similar tactic, staging votes on two amendments
> - one for $22 billion in domestic spending, and
> another for $98 billion for the two wars - to
> allow anti-war lawmakers to vote for the domestic
> spending, but against the money for the war.
>
> The strategy would let many Democratic lawmakers
> register their opposition to the war, but it
> wouldn?t change the outcome. The Senate would
> eventually wrap all the spending into one package
> to send to the White House for Bush?s signature.
>
> Democrats may use the bill to put Republicans on
> the defensive by offering an amendment to boost
> tax incentives for renewable energy as well as
> language that would block the administration from
> implementing new rules that would cut Medicaid
> payments and shift those costs to the states.
>
> House leaders also may introduce an amendment
> that would require Bush to use any new war money
> only for redeploying U.S. troops from Iraq. Bush
> vetoed a bill with similar language last year and
> Democrats lacked the votes to override it. Still,
> Democrats say it would remind voters that it?s
> Bush and Republicans who are refusing to end the
> war.
>
> But anti-war activists say Democrats are being
> disingenuous by claiming to oppose the war while
> also preparing to give the president even more
> war funding than he requested.
>
> ?They are the biggest hypocrites in the world,?
> said Medea Benjamin, the San Francisco-based
> founder of the anti-war group CodePink. ?They
> want to paint the Republicans as warmongers and
> they want to keep funding the war, and they think
> we don?t see through this??
>
> Bay Area anti-war activists met at Oakland?s
> Grand Lake Theater last week to discuss ways to
> protest the war spending bill. CodePink plans to
> renew its protests outside Pelosi?s home in San
> Francisco and at lawmakers? offices, Benjamin
> said.
> Pelosi on hot seat
>
> Pelosi was pressed on the issue last week during
> a sit-down with CNN?s Larry King. ?Your party
> became the majority in the House primarily
> pledging to end the war,? King said. ?That didn?t
> happen.?
>
> ?No,? Pelosi acknowledged. ?It didn?t happen
> because we had hoped that the president would
> listen to the will of the people and at least be
> willing to compromise on ? how the war is
> conducted and some timetable for redeployment of
> our troops.?
>
> Congress watchers said Democrats are still stung
> after losing repeated battles with the White
> House and Republicans over the war last year.
>
> ?Last year they tried a lot of confrontation and
> they went nowhere,? said Louis Fisher, a
> constitutional scholar at the Library of Congress
> and an expert on congressional war powers. He
> said Democrats still fear being portrayed as
> putting U.S. troops at risk if they try to shut
> off war funds.
>
> ?That argument seems to win almost every time,?
> Fisher said. ?Look how long it took to cut off
> the funding in Vietnam. It wasn?t until the
> summer of 1973.?
>
> Congressional scholar Thomas Mann of the
> Brookings Institution said House leaders are
> making a wise choice to give a new president,
> whether Democrat or Republican, some time to
> chart a new course in Iraq. He noted that even
> the Democratic presidential candidates, Sens.
> Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton, have
> said it would take a few months to begin
> withdrawing troops.
>
> Democrats in Congress may risk frustrating their
> base by funding the war into next year, but Mann
> said it?s unlikely to hurt them in the November
> election. The public still generally sees the
> Iraq conflict as Bush?s war, he said.
>
> ?This only becomes a Democratic war if a
> Democratic president fails to deliver on his or
> her promise to end the war,? Mann said.
>
>
> E-mail Zachary Coile at zcoile at sfchronicle.com.
>
> ? 2008 The San Francisco Chronicle
>
>
>
>
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Sat May  3 18:47:43 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 18:47:43 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Carol's campaign is highlighted on GP.org
In-Reply-To: <2745.38.99.84.36.1209745112.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <2745.38.99.84.36.1209745112.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <1BB4339B-0834-4AAA-B43B-5285469A1B2A@cagreens.org>

CONGRATULATIONS, CAROL, AND GOOD LUCK IN THE COMING ELECTION!!!

On May 2, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> Check out http://gp.org  where our own Carol Brouillet's congressional
> campaign is getting some national/international Green love as the
> currently featured Green '08 candidate in the GP banner ad top  
> center of
> their page.
>
> Note that the Green Party of Santa Clara Co. has endorsed Carol and  
> Peter
> Meyer's '08 campaign which makes them eligible for a bit 'o funding  
> from
> the GPCA when it comes available (probably after august according to
> Warner).  Since the 14th CD covers parts of Santa Clara, Santa Cruz  
> AND
> San Mateo, I'd urge the San Mateo Greens to also endorse Carol  
> Brouillet's
> '08 campaign.  Also of course San Mateo will want to endorse Barry
> Hermanson for this reason.  Once the endorsements are done Warner says
> someone from the County Council needs to send an e-mail to him for
> official endorsement notification.
>
>
> Green is Together!
>
> Drew
>
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun May  4 00:14:37 2008
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 00:14:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "The Gospel of Consumerism"
Message-ID: <481D625D.5020407@earthlink.net>


I found this to be a very interesting article.

It's about business promotion of consumerism, beginning
almost 100 years ago.  Apparently business leaders were
concerned that if people did not consume enough, then
they would not need to work as many hours, and that would
lead to mischief.

It's about attempts at a 30 hour work week. Kellogg had
a 30 hour work week for decades.

It's about the implications for democracy of shorter vs.
longer work week.

It's long ...


     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/03/8686/

Gerry



From wrolley at charter.net  Sun May  4 08:38:24 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 08:38:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "The Gospel of Consumerism"
In-Reply-To: <481D625D.5020407@earthlink.net>
References: <481D625D.5020407@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <481DD870.3090303@charter.net>

Gerry Gras wrote:
<snip>
> It's about the implications for democracy of shorter vs.
> longer work week.
>
> It's long ...
>
>
>      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/03/8686/
Well, among those things we could do with a shorter work week is to read 
things like this instead of waiting until we retire like I did.

Then, we might start actually writing stuff.... like I did.  Consumerism 
has been a subject of my last two Morgan Hill Times columns. 
http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/241276-more-than-shopping-to-make-a-successful-downtown
and
http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/240153-consumerism-will-permanently-damage-our-planet

When we moved back from Japan in 1993, I had to make some major changes 
in the property.  "Digger" pines were too big and too fire-dangerously 
close to the house and had to go.  Eventually, they were replaced by 
apple, apricot, cherry, loquat,  persimmon, plum, pluot and citrus 
(oranges, Meyer lemons, kumquats, grapefruit, pomelo). 

Every tree that went into the ground meant that a rock had to come out, 
or so it seemed.  At the time, I piled a wall just outside my office 
window, running the width of the house.  It is more like a two level 
terrace, each about two feet high allowing a planting on the lower level 
and with rosemary growing along the top level. 

Well, as Frost wrote "Something there is that does not love a wall."  
Eventually, it is starting to go and I am rebuilding it with mortar, as 
I don't think that my body can take rebuilding it again in another 10 
years.

By the time I had built the wall in the fist place I had developed an 
eye for finding just the rock that I need to fill a particular place.  
Now, laying it up with mortar, everything changes slightly and the 
practiced eye that I used years ago is out of practice. I takes me 
longer and if I mix too much mortar, it dries out before I can use it.

It is along way of saying that there are a number of skills that one 
needs to live these days and they are being forgotten, lost by the 
passage of time.  While laying up a portion of the wall yesterday, I 
remembers a mystery that I had enjoyed reading several years ago.  It is 
"No Colder Place" by S. J. Rozan and the main PI character has to recall 
and re-use bricklaying skills from an earlier lifetime just as I am 
doing now..  A mystery might not be everyone's choice for reading, but 
the sections that describe brick laying and the learned skills involved 
ring true in my mind.  (Author Rozan was an architect so this is 
familiar territory.).

Tian wrote of his search for good shoes and a cobbler who could make 
them. If we are not to be the consummate consumer then there are other 
skills that we will of necessity learn.  Even mixing mortar is a skill.


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun May  4 12:11:24 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 15:11:24 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Reminders:  Tabling at Berryessa A&WF May 10th;
	Yard Sale May 17-18th
Message-ID: <bf1.27c94e5b.354f645c@aol.com>

GPSCC Tabling at the Berryessa Arts & Wine Festival  Saturday May 10th
11 am - 4 pm  
Come and help table or just say hello.  Festival is  located in the park off 
Berreyessa up the hill east of Highway 680.
 
Yard Sale at 867 North Fifth Street, San Jose, Saturday-Sunday  May 17-18th
9 am - 5 pm 
Donations for sale can be brought beginning Sunday May  10th
Call Warner at (408) 295-9353 to schedule drop  offs.
 
wsb3



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From palmheaven at gmail.com  Sun May  4 18:57:33 2008
From: palmheaven at gmail.com (Palm Haven Handyman)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 18:57:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Reminders: Tabling at Berryessa A&WF May 10th;
	Yard Sale May 17-18th
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Message-ID: <e30eed7e0805041857j64b170d6t2f85f7d83540b30@mail.gmail.com>

I can be there from 11 to 2 on Saturday to help with tabling.  Sounds like a
cool, laid-back event!

Roy Nordblom III
Green Construction Consultant

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:11 PM, <WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:

>  GPSCC Tabling at the Berryessa Arts & Wine Festival Saturday May 10th
> 11 am - 4 pm
> Come and help table or just say hello.  Festival is located in the park
> off Berreyessa up the hill east of Highway 680.
>
> Yard Sale at 867 North Fifth Street, San Jose, Saturday-Sunday May 17-18th
> 9 am - 5 pm
> Donations for sale can be brought beginning Sunday May 10th
> Call Warner at (408) 295-9353 to schedule drop offs.
>
> wsb3
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Sun May  4 23:34:26 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 23:34:26 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "The Gospel of Consumerism"
In-Reply-To: <481DD870.3090303@charter.net>
References: <481D625D.5020407@earthlink.net> <481DD870.3090303@charter.net>
Message-ID: <481EAA72.3020605@aceweb.com>

I remember talking about automation with the head of the EE Department
at Bradley when I was one of his students. He said "back in the '60s
(when he was an engineering student), we knew automation was going to
change things. We just never dreamed it was going to dump all the
leisure time on people that didn't want it." I think about that 
sometimes when I see a homeless who could obviously do some dumb job.
Surely s/he could at least sell tickets for CalTrain. How hard is that?

I spent most of the day up in San Mateo at the Maker Fair. That was a 
great event! So much creativity going into so many grass roots projects.
Everybody there at least got entertainment value from many grassroots 
projects that no sane employer would invest a single dollar in. There
were even a few that are trying to reshape the marketplace to
make it more human than dollar centered. An example: tradeafavor.com .
But that's a digression.

Anyhow, on the way up I talked briefly with a guy that was singing the
blues because all the station attendants between San Jose and San 
Francisco had been laid off. I pointed out that ticket machines are 
cheaper. I called them "slave labor". He said that was "exactly right."
Mountain View never had a station attendant. I always had to buy my 
ticket from the conductor. It was kind of fun. Now I just show the guy
my ticket. If I don't, he writes me a $200ish ticket or just kicks me 
off the train if he is feeling generous and has already made his quota.
I always get my ticket. It's cheaper that way, and I don't have to feel 
terrorized by the sight of a conductor.

The Conspiracy Theorist in me is thinking "GWB has probably never
bought a CalTrain ticket from a vending machine." It would be nice if he 
was the only one, but I doubt that is the case. There is a lot of
entertainment value to be had in watching all the little stories that
happen as the train pulls into, unloads people getting off, loads people
getting on, and leaves the station. Sometimes I wonder if there is some
way to give our world a special little magic that starts with buying a
ticket to ride the trains around here... Certainly the riders are as
nice a crowd as could be found among random strangers out there. The 
ride is often enjoyable.

Tian

Wes Rolley wrote:
> Gerry Gras wrote:
> <snip>
>> It's about the implications for democracy of shorter vs.
>> longer work week.
>>
>> It's long ...
>>
>>
>>      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/03/8686/
> Well, among those things we could do with a shorter work week is to read 
> things like this instead of waiting until we retire like I did.
> 
> Then, we might start actually writing stuff.... like I did.  Consumerism 
> has been a subject of my last two Morgan Hill Times columns. 
> http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/241276-more-than-shopping-to-make-a-successful-downtown
> and
> http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/240153-consumerism-will-permanently-damage-our-planet
> 
> When we moved back from Japan in 1993, I had to make some major changes 
> in the property.  "Digger" pines were too big and too fire-dangerously 
> close to the house and had to go.  Eventually, they were replaced by 
> apple, apricot, cherry, loquat,  persimmon, plum, pluot and citrus 
> (oranges, Meyer lemons, kumquats, grapefruit, pomelo). 
> 
> Every tree that went into the ground meant that a rock had to come out, 
> or so it seemed.  At the time, I piled a wall just outside my office 
> window, running the width of the house.  It is more like a two level 
> terrace, each about two feet high allowing a planting on the lower level 
> and with rosemary growing along the top level. 
> 
> Well, as Frost wrote "Something there is that does not love a wall."  
> Eventually, it is starting to go and I am rebuilding it with mortar, as 
> I don't think that my body can take rebuilding it again in another 10 
> years.
> 
> By the time I had built the wall in the fist place I had developed an 
> eye for finding just the rock that I need to fill a particular place.  
> Now, laying it up with mortar, everything changes slightly and the 
> practiced eye that I used years ago is out of practice. I takes me 
> longer and if I mix too much mortar, it dries out before I can use it.
> 
> It is along way of saying that there are a number of skills that one 
> needs to live these days and they are being forgotten, lost by the 
> passage of time.  While laying up a portion of the wall yesterday, I 
> remembers a mystery that I had enjoyed reading several years ago.  It is 
> "No Colder Place" by S. J. Rozan and the main PI character has to recall 
> and re-use bricklaying skills from an earlier lifetime just as I am 
> doing now..  A mystery might not be everyone's choice for reading, but 
> the sections that describe brick laying and the learned skills involved 
> ring true in my mind.  (Author Rozan was an architect so this is 
> familiar territory.).
> 
> Tian wrote of his search for good shoes and a cobbler who could make 
> them. If we are not to be the consummate consumer then there are other 
> skills that we will of necessity learn.  Even mixing mortar is a skill.
> 
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
"In California, we say don't wait for Washington, because Washington is
asleep at the wheel" Governor Schwarzenegger on climate change progress.




From wrolley at charter.net  Mon May  5 00:09:39 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 00:09:39 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "The Gospel of Consumerism"
In-Reply-To: <BLU113-W5994621A162EA074876E5EA4D70@phx.gbl>
References: <481D625D.5020407@earthlink.net> <481DD870.3090303@charter.net>
	<BLU113-W5994621A162EA074876E5EA4D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <481EB2B3.1030309@charter.net>

Michael Fischetti wrote:
> ---------wes     
>
>          there is a whole literature on  whether capitalism delivers happiness and  also on the law of diminishing happiness---- (you get less and less of a buzz with successive purchases until the response is negative because you have to maintain your possessions) 
>
>      mike fischetti
>   
Good question.  Here is a broader one.  Can any economic system deliver 
happiness?

Two thoughts on what can.  One is the well known book / theory called 
"Flow".  Fairly well researched, it holds that people are happiest when 
fully engaged in actually doing something.

The other comes from a novel I am reading now, Crossing to Safety by 
Wallace Stegner.  The narrator of the book considers himself as being an 
"overachiever" but then offers the following... "I suppose that what 
makes hedonists so angry when the think about overachievers is that the 
overachievers, without drugs or orgies, have more fun."

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Mon May  5 09:27:40 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:27:40 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Set-up and Take-down Helpers NEEDED!!! for this
	Saturday at Berryessa
Message-ID: <d34.2659ee34.35508f7c@aol.com>

Folks!  We need someone with a car or other vehicle that  can transport the 
canopy, table and chairs, plus tabling suitcase and  literature, to and/or from 
the Berryessa Arts and Wine Festival this coming  Saturday morning (April 
10th)... or we will have to skip the festival this  year.
 
Usually Jim Stauffer and I do set up and Jim comes back at the  end of the 
day for take-down.  Sometimes Cameron also helps with set up and  take down and 
usually helps table.  Jim Doyle has helped in the past with  transport.  
However...  Cameron will be away this week;  Jim  Stauffer has a schedule conflict 
on Saturday, and Jim Doyle has family  visiting...   
 
I do not have a car, and I have trouble with figuring out the  mechanics of 
the popup canopy (both putting it up and taking it down).  I  have the canopy, 
tables, chairs, and tabling materials at my house in the  Japantown 
neighborhood of San Jose.  Either people volunteer to help, or we  will have to skip 
this event this year.
 
I need to be picked up around 8:30 am so set up can be  completed by 10 am.
The event ends about 4 pm.  Give me a call at (408)  295-9353 or reply by 
email.  
 
Warner



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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue May  6 10:35:05 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:35:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Prop 98/99
Message-ID: <482096C9.1000104@charter.net>

I did not think that I would have to write a column regarding Prop 98 
vs. 99.  However, it looks like I will have to now.  One of the other 
"writers" for the MH Times had come out supporting 98.

http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/242473-vote-yes-of-proposition-98-and-no-on-propositon-99

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue May  6 12:46:11 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:46:11 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Set-up and Take-down Helpers NEEDED!!! for
	this Saturda...
Message-ID: <d4b.2b12f7d0.35520f83@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 5/5/2008 9:29:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  WB4D23 at aol.com 
writes:

Folks!  We need someone with a car or other vehicle  that can transport the 
canopy, table and chairs, plus tabling suitcase and  literature, to and/or from 
the Berryessa Arts and Wine Festival this coming  Saturday morning (April 
10th)... or we will have to skip the festival this  year.
 



I spoke with Jim Stauffer last night by telephone and he can  pick me ant the 
canopy, tables, chairs and literature up in the morning and help  with 
set-up.  That still leaves a need for someone to commit to help taked  down the 
canopy and drive me and the stuff back to my house in the afternoon  (approx. 4 
pm).  Warner 408-295-9353



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From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue May  6 16:15:30 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 16:15:30 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Set-up and Take-down Helpers NEEDED!!! for
 this Saturda...
Message-ID: <4820E692.8050907@freeshell.org>

I'm game to transport the stuff, but nor excited about putting it all 
together.  I have a two step, step ladder.  Will that help?

Fred D.

In a message dated 5/5/2008 9:29:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
WB4D23 at aol.com
writes:

Folks!  We need someone with a car or other vehicle  that can transport the
canopy, table and chairs, plus tabling suitcase and  literature, to 
and/or from
the Berryessa Arts and Wine Festival this coming  Saturday morning (April
10th)... or we will have to skip the festival this  year.




I spoke with Jim Stauffer last night by telephone and he can  pick me 
ant the
canopy, tables, chairs and literature up in the morning and help  with
set-up.  That still leaves a need for someone to commit to help taked 
down the
canopy and drive me and the stuff back to my house in the afternoon 
(approx. 4
pm).  Warner 408-295-9353



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From cheryl at cherylponiatowski.com  Mon May  5 12:45:28 2008
From: cheryl at cherylponiatowski.com (Cheryl Poniatowski)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 12:45:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "The Gospel of Consumerism"
In-Reply-To: <481EAA72.3020605@aceweb.com>
References: <481D625D.5020407@earthlink.net> <481DD870.3090303@charter.net>
	<481EAA72.3020605@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <481F63D8.9010405@cherylponiatowski.com>

With the advent of peak fossil fuel, peak fossil fertilizer, and 6.5 
billion people all vying for living space while world leaders embark on 
wars of empire, we in the industrialized countries are about to get a 
crash course in the fine art of manual labor.

Consumerism has met its match... scarcity.

Tian Harter wrote:
> I remember talking about automation with the head of the EE Department
> at Bradley when I was one of his students. He said "back in the '60s
> (when he was an engineering student), we knew automation was going to
> change things. We just never dreamed it was going to dump all the
> leisure time on people that didn't want it." I think about that 
> sometimes when I see a homeless who could obviously do some dumb job.
> Surely s/he could at least sell tickets for CalTrain. How hard is that?
>
> I spent most of the day up in San Mateo at the Maker Fair. That was a 
> great event! So much creativity going into so many grass roots projects.
> Everybody there at least got entertainment value from many grassroots 
> projects that no sane employer would invest a single dollar in. There
> were even a few that are trying to reshape the marketplace to
> make it more human than dollar centered. An example: tradeafavor.com .
> But that's a digression.
>
> Anyhow, on the way up I talked briefly with a guy that was singing the
> blues because all the station attendants between San Jose and San 
> Francisco had been laid off. I pointed out that ticket machines are 
> cheaper. I called them "slave labor". He said that was "exactly right."
> Mountain View never had a station attendant. I always had to buy my 
> ticket from the conductor. It was kind of fun. Now I just show the guy
> my ticket. If I don't, he writes me a $200ish ticket or just kicks me 
> off the train if he is feeling generous and has already made his quota.
> I always get my ticket. It's cheaper that way, and I don't have to 
> feel terrorized by the sight of a conductor.
>
> The Conspiracy Theorist in me is thinking "GWB has probably never
> bought a CalTrain ticket from a vending machine." It would be nice if 
> he was the only one, but I doubt that is the case. There is a lot of
> entertainment value to be had in watching all the little stories that
> happen as the train pulls into, unloads people getting off, loads people
> getting on, and leaves the station. Sometimes I wonder if there is some
> way to give our world a special little magic that starts with buying a
> ticket to ride the trains around here... Certainly the riders are as
> nice a crowd as could be found among random strangers out there. The 
> ride is often enjoyable.
>
> Tian
>
> Wes Rolley wrote:
>> Gerry Gras wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> It's about the implications for democracy of shorter vs.
>>> longer work week.
>>>
>>> It's long ...
>>>
>>>
>>>      http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/03/8686/
>> Well, among those things we could do with a shorter work week is to 
>> read things like this instead of waiting until we retire like I did.
>>
>> Then, we might start actually writing stuff.... like I did.  
>> Consumerism has been a subject of my last two Morgan Hill Times 
>> columns. 
>> http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/241276-more-than-shopping-to-make-a-successful-downtown 
>>
>> and
>> http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/240153-consumerism-will-permanently-damage-our-planet 
>>
>>
>> When we moved back from Japan in 1993, I had to make some major 
>> changes in the property.  "Digger" pines were too big and too 
>> fire-dangerously close to the house and had to go.  Eventually, they 
>> were replaced by apple, apricot, cherry, loquat,  persimmon, plum, 
>> pluot and citrus (oranges, Meyer lemons, kumquats, grapefruit, pomelo).
>> Every tree that went into the ground meant that a rock had to come 
>> out, or so it seemed.  At the time, I piled a wall just outside my 
>> office window, running the width of the house.  It is more like a two 
>> level terrace, each about two feet high allowing a planting on the 
>> lower level and with rosemary growing along the top level.
>> Well, as Frost wrote "Something there is that does not love a wall."  
>> Eventually, it is starting to go and I am rebuilding it with mortar, 
>> as I don't think that my body can take rebuilding it again in another 
>> 10 years.
>>
>> By the time I had built the wall in the fist place I had developed an 
>> eye for finding just the rock that I need to fill a particular 
>> place.  Now, laying it up with mortar, everything changes slightly 
>> and the practiced eye that I used years ago is out of practice. I 
>> takes me longer and if I mix too much mortar, it dries out before I 
>> can use it.
>>
>> It is along way of saying that there are a number of skills that one 
>> needs to live these days and they are being forgotten, lost by the 
>> passage of time.  While laying up a portion of the wall yesterday, I 
>> remembers a mystery that I had enjoyed reading several years ago.  It 
>> is "No Colder Place" by S. J. Rozan and the main PI character has to 
>> recall and re-use bricklaying skills from an earlier lifetime just as 
>> I am doing now..  A mystery might not be everyone's choice for 
>> reading, but the sections that describe brick laying and the learned 
>> skills involved ring true in my mind.  (Author Rozan was an architect 
>> so this is familiar territory.).
>>
>> Tian wrote of his search for good shoes and a cobbler who could make 
>> them. If we are not to be the consummate consumer then there are 
>> other skills that we will of necessity learn.  Even mixing mortar is 
>> a skill.
>>
>>
>



From alexcathy at aol.com  Wed May  7 07:40:47 2008
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:40:47 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My Commentary on L.A. Times Web Site
Message-ID: <8CA7E6778DEA59B-1C7C-5212@webmail-nd13.sysops.aol.com>



Dear Friends,



The Los Angeles Times has posted my commentary on ?Race Talk? on their ?Blowback? page today. The commentary does include a plug for the Green Party as a way to escape the Democrat-Republican obsession with ?race? in America.

Click the link below to read the full text and to comment.



Alex Walker


= = = = = = = = = = = =


Posted on The Los Angeles Times, www.latimes.com, Wednesday, May 07, 2008 
NO MORE RACE TALK
By Alex Walker 
Enough about Obama and Wright. This election is about Bush. 

= = = = = = = = = = = =


(Read More...)


URL: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oew-walker7-2008may07,0,5500498.story 


Enough about Obama and Wright. This election is about Bush. 

= = = = = = = = = = = =


(Read More...)


URL: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oew-walker7-2008may07,0,5500498.story 
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed May  7 13:20:48 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 13:20:48 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Recent Price Rises on things like rice.
Message-ID: <48220F20.2010407@aceweb.com>

Last evening I went to a talk about "why is the price of food going up
so fast?" The speaker, Raj Patel, (author of the new book Stuffed &
Starved, The Hidden Battle for the World Food System) said there are
five reasons:

1) Oil. Not only does that mean that the price of transport goes up,
    but the price of fertilizer goes up, and many other costs of
    production go up.

2) Growing middle classes all over the planet are asking for more
    protean in their diets. This means more animal feed, which means
    more demands on crops. This raises prices.

3) Biofuels. Again, this puts more demands on available crops. Every ear
    of corn that becomes ethanol to burn in engines is another ear that
    wasn't eaten by an animal or a human. This raises prices.

4) Weather disasters. Australia had a bad wheat crop because of a
    drought. That's not the only event of the type. This cuts into
    production, which again raises prices.

I think the fifth thing was bone headed government policies that put
small farmers in places like Haiti out of business by flooding the place
with cheap imports that evaporate after the price goes up.

During Q&A the guy said we used to be frightened by biotech companies
coming up with "terminator seeds" (ones that produce sterile plants).
Their latest creation is even more needy, "Zombie seeds" (ones that need 
expensive chemicals to grow at all).

Raj thinks Cuba is the place that has the most lessons to teach about 
how to get by after the fossil fuels go away. He said they do a lot of 
urban gardening for vegetables, among other things. San Francisco is 
planning to plant a big vegetable garden on City Hall Plaza as a 
demonstration of this.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
5/6: I spent a few hours papering downtown Mountain View
with Bike To Work Day posters. That's coming up on 5/15/08!


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  7 13:32:42 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 13:32:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mother's Day flyers
Message-ID: <482211EA.30704@sbcglobal.net>

I will be picking up a resupply of our Mother's Day flyer tomorrow
afternoon, Thursday May 8-th.

If you are interested in handing some out on Sunday, please contact me
so that we can get some to you or that you can pick some up.

Jim Doyle
(408) 269-3299



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May  8 07:33:36 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:33:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Interview with Kat Swift on her presidential
	campaign
Message-ID: <50672.4.225.209.61.1210257216.squirrel@greens.org>

Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 04:01:42 +0000
From: Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at hotmail.com>
Subject: [usgp-dx] Interview with Kat Swift on her presidential campaign
(San Antonio Current)
To: <natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org>


Finally old enough for the Oval Office, Swift throws a lasso in the ring

Greg Harman
San Antonio Current, May 7, 2008
http://sacurrent.com/news/story.asp?id=68690


Three candidates get all the air time. Ralph?s defected for an Independent
run.
?Green? has become the Holy Grail of marketing kitsch. And San Antonio?s
newest
perennial candidate (and former Current staffer), Kat Swift, is using her
Minervan
powers to shake down the last few uncommitted primary voters to save the
world from
anti-human, corporo-fascist domination.


[Q] I was thinking about that Kinky Friedman saying, ?How hard could it
be?? What
have you found? How hard is it to run for president?

[A] The FEC filing is insane. I mean, I?ve run for [San Antonio] City
Council ? you
go online, it?s straightforward, it makes sense, it matches the paper
forms. You go
and use the FEC free software, you gotta find special characters that only
special
programs create and it doesn?t match the paper. You can see how they sort
of made it
where companies can make money off of the government?s inability to be
simplistic
and straightforward.

Then, of course, you have ballot-access issues, where every state is
different. And
this is a federal election, you know, this should be a uniform ballot-access
requirement nationwide. It just makes it next to impossible. Texas is the
hardest
state to get on the ballot.


[Q] Why is that?

[A] Well, we have primary screen-out. We?re the only state that has primary
screen-out. It?s been ruled unconstitutional in several places, but it
basically is
that if you vote in the primary you can?t petition your government to get
another
party on the ballot, or an independent candidate. So in years like this,
when people
actually vote, which is not common, it makes it even more difficult
because you have
75 days to get 45,000 signatures from people who registered but didn?t
vote [in the
primaries]. And finding those people has been next to impossible.


[Q] How vital is it for the Green Party or any other third party to get
established
in the system?

[A] When your only choice is a corporate-dominated party, I mean you?ve
got a left
wing and a right wing of the same corporate party that?s leading us to a
totalitarian-fascist government, then it?s absolutely essential in order
to keep
democracy, in order to have choices. The people in power want to keep it.
They don?t
want people to have a choice. They don?t even follow the Constitution,
which says
you?re supposed to proportionally represent delegates ? In that case, you
disenfranchise entire demographics in the South.

I think if we?re going to have political parties, we need to have a
multi-party
system or we should just do away with political parties.


[Q] Tell me that the Green Party does not operate in this way like the
Democratic
Party, where we see these proportional splits in delegates and then you
see the
super delegates and then you have the super-duper delegates.

[A] [Laughter.] No, we have, like, normal delegates. Every state is
different. The
way they choose their delegates is different, but what happens is they do
proportionally distribute their delegates. If you get 33 percent of the
votes, you
get 33 percent of the delegates to the national [convention].


[Q] And they?re still not bound, or are they?

[A] Almost every state binds the first round, because we do instant
run-off voting.
Whoever has the lowest votes after the first round will get dropped. Some
states
bind every round, but most don?t. Most just bind the first round and then
delegates
are free to do what they want ? But there are no super delegates and all that
craziness.


[Q] When you?re out on the street, do people ever bring up, say, ?Oh,
Ralph Nader,
he was a spoiler. A third party or Green Party is just a spoiler for
Democratic
Party chances??

[A] It didn?t help that the media made it seem like it was Nader?s fault
or the
Green Party?s fault. The only people who still really say that are people
who are
still really angry, but who also don?t know the facts. It?s hard to deal
with it. A
lot of times, it?s best to just walk away and let them be ignorant. But
the facts
are there were more people on the ballot in Florida than Ralph Nader.
There were
more Democrats that voted for Bush than voted for Nader. The Democratic
Party itself
did not stand up for voter fraud. In 2004 in Ohio there were numerous
egregious
violations of people?s rights and the Democratic Party. The Green Party and
Libertarian Party did but it was thrown out because there was no way we
could have
won with a recount and so it was considered frivolous.

As long as the wealthy have the power, they?re going to do whatever it
takes to
limit your choices and limit your vote.


[Q] And maintain their own.

[A] Right. As soon as people go, ?Oh, wait a minute. I don?t have to vote
for the
lesser of two evils because I?m afraid of the alternative. What if we all
went and
voted third party??

It?s not some foregone conclusion that these are the only people who can win.


[Q] But do you think the ideals of the Green Party represent enough
Americans to
bring that about, to even get established?

[A] Well, whenever you talk to people on the street who aren?t involved in
politics
and they find out what you?re talking about and what we stand for, they
agree every
time. The only disagreements I find are for people who are very key-issue
orientated. Because they?re anti-abortion. They don?t want to talk about why
abortions are so high. Or why unwanted pregnancies are so high, which is
what we
talk about, on addressing the cause of it instead of just making it
illegal. When
you?re dealing with people like that it doesn?t matter what you say.


[Q] What is your campaign strategy and where does the Wonder Woman suit
fit into that?

[A] [Laughter.] My Wonder Woman suit, [she] was one of my heroes. I was
rewatching
the series actually recently and was like, ?Wow. I got a lot of my beliefs
from
that.? Female empowerment. Not fighting with guns. Stopping the bad guys,
stuff like
that.


[Q] And the truth lasso?

[A] Yeah. The truth lasso. Making people tell the truth and stopping
people from
killing people, you know? That kind of belief system. So I thought it
would be fun
to go outside the box and not be the politicians, be the dressed up-super
hero ?
especially for King William ? I?ll probably start carrying it with me just
in case
the opportunity arises.





From WB4D23 at aol.com  Thu May  8 10:13:47 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:13:47 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Ride Home From Berryessa AWF Saturday Afternoon
	STILL NEEDED!!!
Message-ID: <cf2.3080abf6.35548ecb@aol.com>

Thursday May 8, 2008
 
Folks!  I still need transportation for myself, canopy,  literature, etc. for 
Saturday afternnon after the Berryessa Arts and Wine  Festival.  I am 
unwilling to go there without being able to get back (at  least with all the 
equipment and supplies).
I need to know "for sure" that this part of arrangements is  taken care of by 
tomorrow afternoon.  Otherwise I will contact Jim Stauffer  and tell him he 
doesn't need to take me to the park in the morning.  Give  me a call.
 
Warner (408-295-9353)
 



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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  8 10:24:57 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 10:24:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] yard sale ad
Message-ID: <48233769.6080003@sbcglobal.net>

An ad has been placed with the Pennysaver paper that appears
once a week.  The ad announces our yard sale which they put
in their garage sale category.  The ad reads

San Jose
867 North Fifth Street
between Taylor and Hedding
Saturday and Sunday May 17-18
9am - 3 pm



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu May  8 12:22:58 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 12:22:58 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election night party?
Message-ID: <48235312.30501@aceweb.com>

Hello Y'all,

I'm thinking "we need an election night party". It's been many years 
since we had a County Council election on the ballot, and I don't 
remember one as contested as this one. We should celebrate.

I'm willing to host it at my place, nothing fancy, but with piped in 
results so we can know who has to "serve" for two years.

Anyhow, I need some "I'll be there" type buy ins to go for it. Let me
know if you're interested. If I get enough response I'll reserve the
room.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
5/6: I spent a few hours papering downtown Mountain View
with Bike To Work Day posters. That's coming up on 5/15/08!


From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu May  8 15:12:16 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:12:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Tell Congress the Farm Bill can help end
	the Food Crisis]
Message-ID: <48237AC0.3040400@freeshell.org>

Tell Congress to do the right thing!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Tell Congress the Farm Bill can help end the Food Crisis
Date: 	Thu, 08 May 2008 19:31:08 GMT
From: 	Tim Fullerton, Oxfam America Advocacy Fund <action at oaaf.org>
Reply-To: 	notice-reply-webnndu4omij6bi at ga-mail.act.oxfamamerica.org
To: 	Fred Duparrault <fredd at freeshell.org>



Dear Fred,

Faced with a global food crisis, Congress has a major
opportunity to provide desperately needed funding to help those
facing increased hunger due to high food prices. Congress is in
final negotiations on the farm bill right now and this
legislation could help address the crisis. Currently farmers
making $1 million a year receive support from the farm bill,
but the poor affected by the food crisis do not. Does that sound
right to you?

Tell Congress to shift funds from wasteful subsides for wealthy
farmers and help address the unprecedented challenge of
skyrocketing food prices. (http://act.oxfamamerica.org/campaign/fbfoodcrisis/webnndu4omij6bi?)

By shifting funds in the Farm Bill from wasteful agricultural
subsidies for industrial sized farms to food aid for children
and others facing hunger, Congress can help head off a global
humanitarian disaster. Weathly farmers don't need support from
the government, but poor people who cannot afford food for their
families do. Tell Congress to do the right thing.

Even a small cut in subsidies to wealthy farmers could provide
funds to help millions who are being pushed further into poverty
by the food crisis. Food prices in some countries have gone up
80% in the last three years. Poor people around the world cannot
wait any longer Please tell Congress to urgently address the
food crisis today. (http://act.oxfamamerica.org/campaign/fbfoodcrisis/webnndu4omij6bi?)

Thank you for your support.

Tim Fullerton
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May  8 18:16:48 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 18:16:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election night party?
In-Reply-To: <48235312.30501@aceweb.com>
References: <48235312.30501@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <51392.66.7.182.186.1210295808.squirrel@greens.org>

Great idea Tian!  I'll be there.  I'm STILL hearing great things about
your last party from our first primary this year. :-)


Green is Party!

Drew


On Thu, May 8, 2008 12:22, Tian Harter wrote:
> Hello Y'all,
>
> I'm thinking "we need an election night party". It's been many years
> since we had a County Council election on the ballot, and I don't
> remember one as contested as this one. We should celebrate.
>
> I'm willing to host it at my place, nothing fancy, but with piped in
> results so we can know who has to "serve" for two years.
>
> Anyhow, I need some "I'll be there" type buy ins to go for it. Let me
> know if you're interested. If I get enough response I'll reserve the
> room.
>
> --
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> 5/6: I spent a few hours papering downtown Mountain View
> with Bike To Work Day posters. That's coming up on 5/15/08!
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May  9 06:55:06 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 06:55:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Register now for the National Convention July
	10-13th.
Message-ID: <59743.66.7.182.186.1210341306.squirrel@greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [usgp-nc] Live Green Vote Green! Register now.
From:    "Ruth Weill" <ruthweill at gmail.com>
Date:    Thu, May 8, 2008 11:43
To:      "national comm votes" <natlcomvotes at green.gpus.org>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Everyone,


By now you know the 2008 Green Party of the United States Presidential
Nominating Convention and Annual Meeting is in downtown Chicago from July
10-13th.  This year's event is shaping up to be one of the best events of
the year.   Please visit http://www.greenparty2008.org for all the
information related to the convention, including registration and the link
to reserve your room at the headquarter hotel, the Palmer House Hilton.
Staying at the Palmer House is a very important aspect of this convention,
the party needs to fill rooms to get the best rates on space, plus don't you
want to be where all the action is?   If you share a room it is reasonable,
especially for such a beautiful hotel in the heart of downtown Chicago.

Beyond the nomination of our presidential candidate on Saturday the weekend
has much to offer from amazing speakers such as Malik Rahim former Black
Panther and Green Party candidate, long time community activist on various
social justice issues.  Malik also co-founded the Common Ground
Collective/Relief, an organization that provides short term relief to
victims of hurricane disasters in the gulf region.  Please visit
http://www.commongroundrelief.org/ for more information.  Many of you know
Kathy Kelly, co-founder of Voices in the Wilderness, an organization that
worked to end sanctions in Iraq beginning in 1996.  She has visited Iraq and
other locations in the Middle East on several occasions and you can read
more about her recent work at http://www.vcnv.org    Another amazing
activist speaking at the convention is our own Steering Committee member
Cliff Thornton Jr. a long time social justice activist who has done much
work on drug policy reform.  Please visit
http://www.efficacy-online.org/for more information on his work

The workshop selection will be top notch, with expert activists from across
the country discussing an array of issues.  From foreign policy issues
related to the Middle East and Iran, working toward immigrant and LGBTQ
rights or to how to campaign on a shoestring budget, attendees have the
ability for much education and continued learning.

Thursday evening's International Reception will feature Greens from all over
the world.  In 2004 we had over 35 International guests representing at
least 15 countries.

The Annual National Meeting Committee urges you to register as soon as you
can and to reserve you room at the Palmer House Hilton.    It is most
financially helpful to the party to have the attendees staying at the Palmer
House, our headquarter hotel.     Downtown Chicago is an epicenter of
activity, especially in the summer months, with Grant Park and the
magnificent Lake Michigan only a couple of blocks away the location is
awesome.

So, please visit http://www.greenparty2008.org for registration, room
reservations and general questions.

Thank you and we look forward to seeing you in July.


 The Annual National Meeting Committee


-- 
" One person can make a difference, and every person must try."

John F. Kennedy

" Be the change you want to see in the world."

Mohandas Gandhi

"If I can't dance, I do not want to be a part of your revolution."

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"If I can't dance, I do not want to be a part of your revolution."

Emma Goldman



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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri May  9 09:13:08 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 09:13:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Tell Congress the Farm Bill can help
 end	the Food Crisis]
In-Reply-To: <48237AC0.3040400@freeshell.org>
References: <48237AC0.3040400@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <48247814.2080106@charter.net>

Fred Duperrault wrote:
> Tell Congress to do the right thing!
>
Fred and all,
First, we have to make sure that Congress has a chance to "do the right 
thing".  In fact, the Farm Bill has passed both the House and the Senate. 

Check my post on the subject at California Greening. 
http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2008/05/getting-it-righter-correct.html

Current word is that the President, in a rash of doing good things 
recently (2 this week), is going to veto the bill.  If he does, you will 
see Pelosi and company rail against the President over an issue of 
blocking the increase in food stamp funding.  This is just a smoke 
screen so that they look good to "bleeding heart liberals" (there still 
are some) while they
merrily barter away $ billions.  It is partisan politics at the most 
crass level.


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From WB4D23 at aol.com  Fri May  9 09:38:41 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:38:41 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Have Rides;
	Come Help Table Tomorrow at Berryessa AWF
Message-ID: <bed.21ae764d.3555d811@aol.com>

Jim Stauffer has agreed to pick up me and supplies and  equipment tomorrow 
morning for setup at the Berryessa Arts and Wine Festival,  and Caroline Yacoub 
has agreed to come by in the afternoon for the return  trip.
 
Come and help table tomorrow, Saturday, May 10th, at the  Berryessa Arts and 
Wine Festival!!!  Located east of Highway 680 in  the park next to the 
Berryessa Community Center between Piedmont and  Berreyessa.  For the last number of 
years, we have been in the  nonprofits and bandstand area on the Berryessa 
side.  Parking  spaces available on a random basis on Berreyessa or in the 
parking  lot...  or a few blocks nearby in the neighborhood.
 
Special thanks to Jim Doyle for delivering the Mothers Day  leaflets last 
night!
 
It should be a gorgeous day!  (Did I mention helpers are  need so I can get a 
break hear and there throughout the day?)
 
See ya' there!!!  Warner
 
 



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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Fri May  9 09:47:47 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:47:47 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Register now for the National Convention
	July 10-13...
Message-ID: <c3b.3448adf8.3555da33@aol.com>

During a teleconference of California GPUS Delegates last  Tuesday evening, 
there was consensus to try to reserve a block of rooms at a  hostel called 
Arlington House located about five miles from the convention  site.  It was 
reported that there could be as many as 33 rooms each with  two beds (but varying 
bathroom amenities -- worse case dormitory style showers)  for $70-$80 per night 
per room (pricing needed clarification).  Public  transportation was reported 
available by bus from the hostel, although the need  for a transfer was 
unclear.  People interested in reserving or sharing one  of those rooms should 
contact Sanda Everette at _sanda at greens.org_ (mailto:sanda at greens.org) .   Warner 



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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat May 10 13:33:42 2008
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 13:33:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Darfur Rally,
	was ...[Fwd: visa rally: bring the olympic dream to Darfur]
Message-ID: <482606A6.40403@earthlink.net>



Visa Rally: Bring the Olympic Dream to Darfur

China's involvement in the Darfur genocide is that of a complicit
economic accomplice. China invests large amounts of capital in
developing oil pipelines in the Sudan, of which the profit goes almost
entirely to the government's funding of the genocide. It has also been
shown that China has sold arms to the Sudanese Government ? arms used
against the innocent people of Darfur.

With the Beijing Olympics coming up, there is no better time to put
international pressure on China to adopt better foreign policy on
these issues. The best way to reach the Chinese government is through
the corporate sponsors of the Beijing Olympics ? that is why we are
targeting Visa USA, Inc. Their economic necessity for the Olympics
makes them a valuable tool of leverage with China.

Within the next couple of weeks, there will be a series of
demonstrations held across the nation, each focusing on a different
corporate sponsor of the 2008 Olympics, one of which is directed at
Visa USA, Inc.  At their headquarters, located in San Francisco, on
Friday, May 16th, we will make our voices heard, because there are
Darfurians who have no other voice than ours.  Join us in asking Visa
to take the initiative on this issue, and directly contact both the
Chinese government and the International Olympic Committee, to insist
that China change its policy on Darfur.

There will be a series of speakers and activists who will speak about
the current situation in Darfur and our call to action.  Come raise
your voice!

Visa Headquarters
123 Mission Street
San Francisco, CA 94105
Friday, May 16
4 P.M

Contact Zohreh at 408-580-6394 or visarally.cod at gmail.com if you are
interested in participating in this rally.  We hope to see you there!




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sun May 11 07:47:45 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 07:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Polidoc video on Kat Swift,
	Texas Greens in PBS competition (fwd)
Message-ID: <49278.66.7.182.186.1210517265.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [usgp-media] Polidoc video on Kat Swift, Texas Greens in PBS
competition (fwd)
From:    "Scott McLarty" <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
Date:    Wed, May 7, 2008 10:46
To:      usgp-media at gp-us.org
         dcsgp at yahoogroups.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

(See Kat Swift's updates below on voting in the
PBS competition)

>From Babette Hogan <babette at polidoc.com>....

Polidoc has entered a competition on PBS for
freshest political video short (3-4 minutes).
The winner will get a national screening on PBS
as well as quick listed for some film festivals.
This is the first of our small vignettes; it
features Kat Swift in her efforts to gain ballot
access in Texas.  Educational and entertaining
for the general public.

Sure would appreciate it if you could post the
following link on your site somewhere and
encourage people to give us some stars (the
higher the better, of course):

http://lab.wgbh.org/open-call/election2008/sample-reels/seriously-green-kat-swift-presidential-candidate

A direct link to the YouTube page that you will
wish to post on Kat's media page is:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LQE9JYllvlw

We were just in San Diego last weekend and will
be cutting a short piece within the next two
weeks on Kent which focuses on sustainability.

In June we will be doing Jesse's piece which will
cover decentralization and energy policies.

We would love to be able to do something with
Cynthia as well, but are repeated efforts to
contact her have not garnered anything more than
a "I'll pass it on"  Too bad since we really
wanted to provide her the same kind of attention
before the convention.  Alas.

Hope you enjoy.

Babette Hogan
Producer/Director
Polidoc Productions
415.310.2892


*  *  *  *  *


Seriously Green documentary filmmakers have been
following around 2008 GP candidates to tell our
story of ballot access  woes, etc.

They submitted a short to WGBH for a contest
which you can now vote on and the winner gets
public national airplay ?

http://lab.wgbh.org/open-call/election2008/sample-reels/seriously-green-kat-swift-presidential-candidate

Currently the voting period ends Friday May 9th.


*  *  *  *  *


Update:  It's now up - you can vote until friday
(unless they change the date)

Seriously Green documentary filmmakers have been
following around 2008 GP candidates to tell our
story of ballot access  woes, etc.

They submitted a short to WGBH for a contest
which you can now vote on and the winner gets
public national airplay ?
http://lab.wgbh.org/open-call/election2008/sample-reels/seriously-green-kat-swift-presidential-candidate

Currently the voting period ends Friday May 9th.

Respectfully
kat swift
http://voteswift.org


Respectfully
kat swift
GPTX & candidate
http://Txgreens.org
http://voteswift.org




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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun May 11 19:23:19 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 22:23:19 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Yard Sale Update
Message-ID: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>

I spoke with Merriam this afternoon...  There seems to be  a lack of 
volunteers for actually dealing with people who might come to the yard  sale.  Only 
one person volunteering to help set up Saturday morning (Jim  Doyle).  No one 
identified for set up Sunday am.  Also...  only  one person has delivered items 
so far (Caroline).  No one has called or  emailed abouat bringing sale items 
ahead of next Saturday...  Items being  brought Saturday morning need to be 
premarked for price.  Stuff really  should be brought ahead of time...   Merriam 
did report that she has  sign posters and sign removers set up for the 
neighborhood.   Remember:  The whole point of this is to raise money of the GPSCC,  
especially to fund a pre-election newsletter next September.  
If you have items to bring, let me know when to expect their  arrival.  
 
Warner  408-295-9353



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From palmheaven at gmail.com  Mon May 12 14:05:09 2008
From: palmheaven at gmail.com (Palm Haven Handyman)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:05:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Yard Sale Update
In-Reply-To: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>
References: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e30eed7e0805121405g310afa22nca570dd3d85ef971@mail.gmail.com>

Warner,

I am expecting to come help at some point, I need to get with my wife to
find out when works for me, I'll let you know.

I thought I could bring some schwag for sale, mebee I should now plan to get
stuff there in advance given your email.

You go, Warner!

Roy III

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:23 PM, <WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:

>  I spoke with Merriam this afternoon...  There seems to be a lack of
> volunteers for actually dealing with people who might come to the yard
> sale.  Only one person volunteering to help set up Saturday morning (Jim
> Doyle).  No one identified for set up Sunday am.  Also...  only one person
> has delivered items so far (Caroline).  No one has called or emailed abouat
> bringing sale items ahead of next Saturday...  Items being brought Saturday
> morning need to be premarked for price.  Stuff really should be brought
> ahead of time...   Merriam did report that she has sign posters and sign
> removers set up for the neighborhood.  Remember:  The whole point of this is
> to raise money of the GPSCC, especially to fund a pre-election newsletter
> next September.
> If you have items to bring, let me know when to expect their arrival.
>
> Warner  408-295-9353
>
>
>
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> Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at
> AOL Food <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001>.
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon May 12 15:25:09 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Yard Sale Update
In-Reply-To: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>
References: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2951.38.99.84.36.1210631109.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Yo, yo! I don't know how I got left out, but I already said I'd be up for
helping out on Saturday (set up etc.).  There are others whom I've spoken
to that are game...  Hey we're decentralized... hard to fathom, but it
works.


Green is Decentralized!

Drew


On Sun, May 11, 2008 19:23, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
> I spoke with Merriam this afternoon...  There seems to be  a lack of
> volunteers for actually dealing with people who might come to the yard
> sale.  Only
> one person volunteering to help set up Saturday morning (Jim  Doyle).  No
> one
> identified for set up Sunday am.  Also...  only  one person has delivered
> items
> so far (Caroline).  No one has called or  emailed abouat bringing sale
> items
> ahead of next Saturday...  Items being  brought Saturday morning need to
> be
> premarked for price.  Stuff really  should be brought ahead of time...
> Merriam
> did report that she has  sign posters and sign removers set up for the
> neighborhood.   Remember:  The whole point of this is to raise money of
> the GPSCC,
> especially to fund a pre-election newsletter next September.
> If you have items to bring, let me know when to expect their  arrival.
>
> Warner  408-295-9353
>
>
>
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 12 18:10:27 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:10:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] yard sale
Message-ID: <4828EA83.4090208@sbcglobal.net>

There have been several postings to the discussion list offering help for
the yard sale.  Copies below.  From which the following schedule has 
been prepared:
Maybe Merriam missed these at a time when her mailbox was full.
Who are the sign posters and removers?  will they also be at the yard sale?

Saturday morning
    Jim D., Drew,  Fred D. and maybe Lois, Cameron
Saturday midday
    Drew, Cameron
Saturday afternoon
    Drew, Cameron
Sunday morning
    , Cameron
Sunday midday
    , Cameron
Sunday afternoon
    Drew, possibly Fred, Cameron
Sunday cleanup and removal
    Tim Alvarado

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:56:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org <mailto:JamBoi at Greens.org>>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calling Yard Sale Folks - Fundraiser
May 17th-18th
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <3118.38.99.84.36.1209455791.squirrel at www.greens.org 
<mailto:3118.38.99.84.36.1209455791.squirrel at www.greens.org>>
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I can be there all Saturday and on Sunday from 2pm on.  Who all will join
with me?  I know Jody talked about working on it for some time.


Green is Care!

Drew

Message: 3
Date: 29 Apr 2008 14:58:25 -0000
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us <mailto:cls at truffula.sj.ca.us>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calling Yard Sale Folks - Fundraiser
May 17th-18th
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <20080429145825.10315.qmail at truffula.sj.ca.us 
<mailto:20080429145825.10315.qmail at truffula.sj.ca.us>>


I'm fairly sure I can do most of that weekend.  I've got some
merchandise, too.

Cameron
Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:10:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org <mailto:JamBoi at Greens.org>>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calling Yard Sale Folks - Fundraiser
May 17th-18th
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <1773.38.99.84.36.1209481851.squirrel at www.greens.org 
<mailto:1773.38.99.84.36.1209481851.squirrel at www.greens.org>>
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calling Yard Sale Folks - Fundraiser May
17th-18th
From:    "Caroline Yacoub" <carolineyacoub at att.net 
<mailto:carolineyacoub at att.net>>
Date:    Tue, April 29, 2008 08:02
To:      "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org <mailto:JamBoi at Greens.org>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't seem to be able to reply to Sosfbay or Merriam, so I'll reply to
you and hope you will pass it on. I will bring stuff, and some of my
bridge ladies will donate stuff, but I would like to know where to take it
and when I could take it there. I also have some sticky price labels I
could contribute.
  Caroline

Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:51:41 -0700
From: Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org <mailto:fredd at freeshell.org>>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Calling Yard Sale Folks - Fundraiser
May 17th-18th
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <4817602D.6070802 at freeshell.org 
<mailto:4817602D.6070802 at freeshell.org>>
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I, and possibly Lois, can serve from 9 am until Noon on Saturday and
possibly early Sunday Afternoon.  We have a few dozen items to put up
for sale.  Who need$ a lettuce $pin dryer?

Fred




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 12 18:22:47 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:22:47 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] yard sale
Message-ID: <4828ED67.6040001@sbcglobal.net>

Pennysaver, where I placed the ad, has sent a garage sale kit:
3 bright signs with white space to put an address in
1 sheet of 60 3/4 inch diameter price stickers
a listing of ten tips for success

1)   have bags and boxes to package sale items
2)  advertise your sale
3)  clean your yard and garage, make it look neat and appealing
4)  organize items by type
5)  set up tables and shelves
6)  decide prices for similar items, price them to "move"
7)  have plenty of change available, small bills and coins
8)  be prepared to negotiate
9)  if some items have not been sold by afternoon, put several in a box 
for a single price
10)  earn extra money - sell canned drinks, bake some cookies for sale

So what is our pricing policy?  Our negotiating policy?
Who is going to put the price tags on the donated items?


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue May 13 11:53:37 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:53:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] handbook for community activists
Message-ID: <4829E3B1.8070506@sbcglobal.net>

Register early for lunch and lecture
or
perhaps just buy the book.

*/_2.  "Loud & Clear in Election Year" Be Prophetic and Stay Non-Profit
Friday, June 6, _/**/_11:30am-2pm_/*_
_Speaker Holly Minch was the lead editor "Loud & Clear in Election Year: 
Amplifying the Voices of Community Advocates," a handbook created for 
the 2004 election year.  What a non-profit tax-exempt organization (like 
a church) can and can't do in articulating its prophetic voice can be 
very confusing.  However, uncertainty regarding this issue often results 
in churches hesitant to speak prophetically, remaining timid when 
critical moral and religious concerns are at stake.  Minch will offer 2 
hours of her time guiding us through this very important question, 
giving examples and case studies, exploring various options, and 
answering questions.  /Confidence and clarity will help us all be more 
faithful in the months ahead./  Lunch served at 11:30am; the 
presentation begins at 12Noon.  Sponsored by the Council of Churches, 
clergy and lay leaders of all communities of faith and nonprofits are 
invited to attend.  Cost includes lunch and is $10 for registrations 
received by May 23; $20 until June 5; $25 at the door.  /Early 
registration is encouraged!  /Send your name, congregation or 
organization with which you are associated (if any), and checks made to 
Council of Churches of Santa Clara County to Council of Churches, 1710 
Moorpark Ave., San Jose, CA  95128.  The event will be held in mid 
county.  Exact location tba.  Read an excerpt from the book 
<http://www.reachandteach.com/content/article.php?story=loudclear> and 
register for June 6 to learn even more.
******************************




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue May 13 12:53:12 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:53:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Free Website for County Council Candidates
Message-ID: <2117.38.99.84.36.1210708392.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [G-C-F] Free Website for County Council Candidates
From:    "Jared Laiti" <jared.laiti at gmail.com>
Date:    Tue, May 13, 2008 12:33
To:      cal-forum at marla.cagreens.org
         gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

All,

I decided to take the League of Women Voters up on their offer of free
publicity for my county council candidacy. You can see my page at:
http://smartvoter.org/vote/laiti - please give me feedback!

I encourage all those in a contested county council race to make use of the
offer from LWV too. Since a main goal of being on the ballot is often
publicity and to let the grassroots know that the Green Party exists as a
real organization, it seems that using this free publicity furthers those
goals. Also, some Greens have rightfully criticized the LWV in the past for
not including our candidates, so now that they are, it seems like maybe we
should make a point of participating in their process, so they can't say
next time around 'why bother including the Greens, they won't participate
anyway'...

To set up your page, go to http://www.smartvoter.org/candidate . Select your
county and the June 6 primary, put in your name... You'll need the password
they sent you (I got mine in an email they sent out in the last week or two,
but I think you can request them to email you a new one).

In solidarity,
Jared
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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue May 13 12:55:18 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:55:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mail In Precincts
Message-ID: <4829F226.6090004@charter.net>

In this upcoming primary election, I happen to live in a "mail in 
precinct."  In other words, my choice is only to vote by mail.  Or get 
in my gas guzzling, ghg emitting auto and drive about 7 miles round trip.

Questions: are there others in this same situation?  Just how common is 
it this election?

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue May 13 13:23:22 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Technical Assistance for candidates
Message-ID: <2169.38.99.84.36.1210710202.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 15:50:42 -0400
From: Greg Gerritt <gerritt at mindspring.com>
Subject: [usgp-dx] Technical Assistance for candidates
To: national comm affairs <natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org>


Dear readers of the national affairs list.  Please forward this along to any
candidates or potential candidates in your states.

The Coordinated Campaign Committee (CCC) can provide technical assistance to
any local Green candidate.  The CCC is comprised of a number of experienced
campaigners, people who have been candidates and key campaign staffers and
we are always willing to share our experience and knowledge with Green
candidates.  This is especially useful for candidates in states and parts of
states with little Green infrastructure.  We can help candidates understand
how to begin and go forward effectively.  The CCC has manuals on our website
http://gp.org/committees/campaign/and we are happy to answer any questions
by either email or phone.  I serve as the referral agency and can be reached
at gerritt at mindspring dot com or by phone at 401-331-0529.  I can refer
candidates to people in their region who can work more closely with them and
answer questions  or refer them to someone who does know the answer.

Greg Gerritt  GPRI CCC



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue May 13 13:40:01 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:40:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: GP RELEASE Greens: Farm Bill must help small
 farmers, not giant agribusinesses]
Message-ID: <2231.38.99.84.36.1210711201.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Santa Clara/San Mateo congressional candidate for CACD 14 Carol Brouillet
got a quote here. See http://www.carolforcongress.org/ and
http://www.communitycurrency.org/ for more on her work.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------


GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES
http://www.gp.org

For Immediate Release:
Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Contacts:
Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624,
cell 202-904-7614, mclarty at greens.org
Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805,
starlene at gp.org


Greens urge defeat of current Farm Bill, urge
legislation to assist small local farms instead
of big agribusiness

? Main Street, not Wall Street: Green Party calls
for bill to assist local economies, promote local
production of nutritious food, and end hunger in
the US and around the world


WASHINGTON, DC -- Green Party leaders called for
national defeat of the $300 billion Farm Bill,
calling it a capitulation to major agribusiness
interests and a blow to small farmers.

"While the bill contains a funding for nutrition
and some environmental reforms, the bill would
provide huge subsidies for powerful agricultural
corporations, giving them greater power to crush
and absorb family farms," said Rodger Jennings,
Green candidate for Congress
(http://www.rodgerjennings.org) in District 12 of
Illinois, a large part of which is farm land.
"Corporate welfare will not solve the world food
crisis."

The bill, which comes up for renewal every five
years, is the result of a House-Senate compromise
and has strong bipartisan support, especially
from Democratic leadership.  Congress is expected
to vote on it in July.

Greens drew attention to several problems with
the current bill:

? The bill provides no real relief for US
counties with the highest rates of poverty, since
subsidies mainly benefit the wealthy owners of
corporate farms.

? The bill grants subsidies for crops like corn,
wheat, cotton, rice and soybeans -- US imports
dumped into poorer countries, hurting subsistence
farmers in these countries and hindering farmers
in other countries from competing in
international markets.  When prices for food
plummet as a result, local farms fail and are
replaced by giant agribusinesses, and poverty
increases.

? The bill does not support cultivation of fruits
and vegetables, and instead promotes an economy
that encourages cheap calories and drives up the
price of nutritious foods, aggravating obesity
and other health problems.

? The bill encourages production of sugar and
corn to be used for ethanol, which Greens call an
inefficient replacement for fossil fuels; the
rise in ethanol-based energy has converted land
that could be used for food production into a
source of fuel.  This conversion has caused
economic and food supply crises in several
African countries, as agricultural land now
benefits the high energy-consumption demands of
the US and other western nations.

? The richest 5% of US farm owners would win more
than half of the bill's federal subsidies.  Black
farmers complain that they would be excluded from
the subsidies program.

"The Green Party urges passage of legislation
that would strengthen small, locally owned farms
and give them protection against the takeover of
land by giant agricultural corporations.  We
support strong local economies, with farms that
provide nutritious food and numerous financial
benefits for the surrounding community," said
Carol Brouillet, California Green candidate for
the US House in District 14
(http://www.communitycurrency.org).

"The current bill favors Wall Street.  Greens
support Main Street.  We need a farm bill that
will replace hunger with abundant nutritious
organic food, help family farms, and promote
locally based economic development and
self-reliance," added Jason Wallace, Green
Candidate for Congress in Illinois' largely
agricultural 11th District
(http://www.electwallace.us).


MORE INFORMATION

Green Party of the United States
http://www.gp.org
202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN
Fax 202-319-7193
? Video of Green presidential candidates
http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/presidential-videos.php
? Links to Green Presidential Candidates' web
sites
http://www.gp.org/committees/pcsc/index.shtml
? Green candidate database for 2008 and other
campaign information:
http://www.gp.org/elections.shtml
? Green Party News Center
http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml
? Green Party Speakers Bureau
http://www.gp.org/speakers
? Green Party ballot access page
http://www.gp.org/2008-elections
? 2008 Green National Convention: Live Green,
Vote Green
http://www.gp.org/2008-elections/index.shtml
? Media credentialing
http://www.gp.org/forms/media

Bread for the World: "How to Improve the Farm
Bill"
http://www.bread.org/take-action/farm-bill-ol2007/how-to-improve-the-farm-bill.html


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From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue May 13 16:49:10 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:49:10 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Tell Congress to Reject the Farm Bill
	Conference Report]
Message-ID: <482A28F6.4010703@freeshell.org>

This message from Tim Fullerton of Oxfam America urges people to phone  
their congressional representative to get them to reject the Conference 
Report of the Farm Bill
that Carol's forward described so well.  See below.

Fred D.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Tell Congress to Reject the Farm Bill Conference Report
Date: 	Tue, 13 May 2008 17:27:25 GMT
From: 	Tim Fullerton, Oxfam America Advocacy Fund <action at oaaf.org>
Reply-To: 	notice-reply-webnndu2pm8nen7 at ga-mail.act.oxfamamerica.org
To: 	Fred Duparrault <fredd at freeshell.org>



Dear Fred,

Last week we wrote you and asked that you contact your member of
Congress about the Farm Bill. However Congressional leaders
settled on a bill that will continue to hurt rural America,
damage our trade relationships, and hurt the world's poorest
farmers. We now need your help more than ever to tell Congress
to reject the Farm Bill in its present form.

Call your Representative now and urge them to reject the Farm
Bill.

It's fast and simple, and it will make a big difference. Please
follow these simple instructions:
- Call the Capitol switchboard at (202) 224-3121. 
- Ask to speak with one of your Representative. 
- Follow this script:
"Hello. My name is [INSERT NAME], and I'm a voting constituent
from [INSERT CITY, STATE]. I would like you to stand up for poor
people around the world and reject the Farm Bill conference
report in its present form. The bill maintains significant
subsidies that go to the wealthiest producers even though farm
income is at record high levels. A small redistribution of
subsidies could make a huge difference in reducing hunger in
many parts of the world. Please do everything you can to make
sure poor people benefit from the Farm Bill-vote against the
Farm Bill conference report."
- Thank your member for his or her time.
- Let us know that you made the phone call.
(http://act.oxfamamerica.org/campaign/fb_call/webnndu2pm8nen7?)

Thank you for your time and support. Phone calls from
constituents can influence the way your members will vote. A
call today can mean a chance for justice for millions of poor
people around the world.

Tim Fullerton
Oxfam America Advocacy Fund
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From jims at greens.org  Tue May 13 19:21:03 2008
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:21:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mail In Precincts
In-Reply-To: <4829F226.6090004@charter.net>
References: <4829F226.6090004@charter.net>
Message-ID: <482A4C8F.2010800@greens.org>

I just heard a complaint from Solano county the the registrar is requiring 
all members of minor parties who do not have candidates in a partisan 
election to use mail-in ballots.

I think it's a coming trend. The elections officials having been wanting 
this for some time.

Jim




Wes Rolley wrote:
> In this upcoming primary election, I happen to live in a "mail in 
> precinct."  In other words, my choice is only to vote by mail.  Or get 
> in my gas guzzling, ghg emitting auto and drive about 7 miles round trip.
> 
> Questions: are there others in this same situation?  Just how common is 
> it this election?
> 



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed May 14 00:15:54 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 00:15:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mail In Precincts
In-Reply-To: <482A4C8F.2010800@greens.org>
References: <4829F226.6090004@charter.net> <482A4C8F.2010800@greens.org>
Message-ID: <1390.38.99.84.36.1210749354.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Hmm... but since we DO have candidates in this partisan election, that
doesn't quite fit Wes' situation.


Green is Universal!

Drew


On Tue, May 13, 2008 19:21, Jim Stauffer wrote:
> I just heard a complaint from Solano county the the registrar is requiring
> all members of minor parties who do not have candidates in a partisan
> election to use mail-in ballots.
>
> I think it's a coming trend. The elections officials having been wanting
> this for some time.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> Wes Rolley wrote:
>> In this upcoming primary election, I happen to live in a "mail in
>> precinct."  In other words, my choice is only to vote by mail.  Or get
>> in my gas guzzling, ghg emitting auto and drive about 7 miles round
>> trip.
>>
>> Questions: are there others in this same situation?  Just how common is
>> it this election?
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Wed May 14 10:27:03 2008
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:27:03 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Speaker Karen Bass: 'Let's Talk Taxes'
Message-ID: <8CA83FEDBB8B193-318-502D@webmail-ne08.sysops.aol.com>

Posted on Green Commons, May 14, 2008

Speaker Karen Bass: 'Let's Talk Taxes'
By Alex Walker





Sacramento,
Tuesday, May 13, 2008 ? Karen Bass was sworn in as speaker of the
California State Assembly. She is the first African-American woman to
hold such a legislative post anywhere in the United States. Speaker
Bass says ready to begin tackling the many challenges facing
California. Governor Schwarzenegger was scheduled to release his
revised budget proposal Wednesday afternoon.







View full size


Ms.
Bass is a Democrat representing the 47th Assembly District in Los
Angeles. The impression of this Green reporter is that Karen is more
thoughtful, more honest, and more sincerely progressive than most Big
City California Democratic Party pols. The Los Angeles Times published an op-ed by Ms. Bass, "
Let's Talk Taxes"
proposing an "independent" look at the "Third Rail" of California
politics: Taxes. Her op-ed includes a concise description of the
paradox of California: a state with wealth, resources, and a productive
work force that is somehow "a giant in crisis."








Peter Miguel Camejo, our Green Party
candidate for Governor spoke "Truth to Power" about the budget way back
in 2002, when Democratic Governor Gray Davis was lying through his
teeth. Greens have earned the right to a seat at the table and we must
seize this opportunity to engage in a little "triangulation" between
the better elements of the California legislature and do-nothing, ethically-challenged "Regular" Democrats and Republicans.

. . .

The
point is not that Camejo, Greens, or anybody else, has a "magic wand"
to make our budget problems go away. The point is that the Green Party was straight with the people of California
when Democrats, Republicans, including the phoney "post-partisan"
Arnold Schwarzenegger, were all shucking 'n jiving... We have the duty
to help save California and promote our key values to save the planet.





(Read More at www.greencommons.org/node/1013)



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From jims at greens.org  Wed May 14 19:07:02 2008
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:07:02 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mail In Precincts
In-Reply-To: <1390.38.99.84.36.1210749354.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <4829F226.6090004@charter.net> <482A4C8F.2010800@greens.org>
	<1390.38.99.84.36.1210749354.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <482B9AC6.7070103@greens.org>

You missed the point. It's a coming trend. Everyone will be affected.

Jim


Drew Johnson wrote:
> Hmm... but since we DO have candidates in this partisan election, that
> doesn't quite fit Wes' situation.
> 
> 
> Green is Universal!
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 19:21, Jim Stauffer wrote:
>> I just heard a complaint from Solano county the the registrar is requiring
>> all members of minor parties who do not have candidates in a partisan
>> election to use mail-in ballots.
>>
>> I think it's a coming trend. The elections officials having been wanting
>> this for some time.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wes Rolley wrote:
>>> In this upcoming primary election, I happen to live in a "mail in
>>> precinct."  In other words, my choice is only to vote by mail.  Or get
>>> in my gas guzzling, ghg emitting auto and drive about 7 miles round
>>> trip.
>>>
>>> Questions: are there others in this same situation?  Just how common is
>>> it this election?
>>>
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 15 20:39:22 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:39:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California's top court legalizes gay marriage
Message-ID: <2345.38.99.84.36.1210909162.squirrel@www.greens.org>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080516/ap_on_re_us/gay_marriage;_ylt=AnTae27yXxoHk5cR_EBDXsGs0NUE
 California's top court legalizes gay marriage

By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - California's Supreme Court declared gay couples in the
nation's biggest state can marry ? a monumental but perhaps short-lived
victory for the gay rights movement Thursday that was greeted with tears,
hugs, kisses and at least one instant proposal of matrimony.

Same-sex couples could tie the knot in as little as a month. But the
window could close soon after ? religious and social conservatives are
pressing to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot in November that
would undo the Supreme Court ruling and ban gay marriage.

"Essentially, this boils down to love. We love each other. We now have
equal rights under the law," declared a jubilant Robin Tyler, a plaintiff
in the case along with her partner. She added: "We're going to get
married. No Tupperware, please."

A crowd of people raised their fists in triumph inside City Hall, and
people wrapped themselves in the rainbow-colored gay-pride flag outside
the courthouse. In the Castro, the historic center of the gay community in
San Francisco, Tim Oviatt wept as he watched the news on TV.

"I've been waiting for this all my life. This is a life-affirming moment,"
he said.

By the afternoon, gay and lesbian couples had already started lining up at
San Francisco City Hall to make appointments to get marriage licenses. In
West Hollywood, supporters were planning to serve "wedding cake" at an
evening celebration.

James Dobson, chairman of the conservative Christian group Focus on the
Family, called the ruling an "outrage."

"It will be up to the people of California to preserve traditional
marriage by passing a constitutional amendment. ... Only then can they
protect themselves from this latest example of judicial tyranny," he said
in an e-mail statement.

In its 4-3 ruling, the Republican-dominated high court struck down state
laws against same-sex marriage and said domestic partnerships that provide
many of the rights and benefits of matrimony are not enough.

"In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an
individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed
relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise
children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," Chief
Justice Ronald George wrote for the majority in ringing language that
delighted gay rights activists.

Massachusetts is the only other state to legalize gay marriage, something
it did in 2004. The California ruling is considered monumental by virtue
of the state's size ? 38 million out of a U.S. population of 302 million ?
and its historic role in the vanguard of the many social and cultural
changes that have swept the country since World War II.

California has an estimated 92,000 same-sex couples.

"It's about human dignity. It's about human rights. It's about time in
California," San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, pumping his fist in the
air, told a roaring crowd at City Hall. "As California goes, so goes the
rest of the nation. It's inevitable. This door's wide open now. It's going
to happen, whether you like it or not."

Unlike Massachusetts, California has no residency requirement for
obtaining a marriage license, meaning gays from around the country are
likely to flock to the state to be wed, said Jennifer Pizer, a gay-rights
attorney who worked on the case.

The ultimate reach of the ruling could be limited, however, since most
states do not recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere. Nor does the
federal government.

The conservative Alliance Defense Fund said it would ask the justices for
a stay of the decision until after the fall election in hopes of adding
California to the list of 26 states that have approved constitutional
amendments banning same-sex marriage.

"We're obviously very disappointed in the decision. The remedy is a
constitutional amendment. The constitution defines marriage as a union
between one man and one woman," said Glen Lavy, senior counsel for the
organization.

Randy Thomasson of VoteYesMarriage.com, a campaign to amend the California
Constitution to ban gay marriage, said the decision was in effect telling
children that they have a "new role model ? homosexual marriage, aspire to
it.

"This is a disaster," he said.

Opponents of gay marriage could also ask the high court to reconsider. If
the court rejects such a request, same-sex couples could start getting
married in 30 days, the time it typically takes for the justices' opinions
to become final.

The justices said they would direct state officials "to take all actions
necessary to effectuate our ruling," including requiring county marriage
clerks to carry out their duties "in a manner consistent with" the court's
decision.

James Vaughn, director of the California Log Cabin Republicans, called the
ruling a "conservative one."

"The justices have ensured that the law treats all Californians fairly and
equally. This decision is a good one for all families, gay and non-gay,"
Vaughn said.

The case was set in motion in 2004 when the mayor of San Francisco ? the
unofficial capital of gay America ? threw City Hall open to gay couples to
get married in a calculated challenge to California law. Four-thousand gay
couples wed before the Supreme Court put a halt to the practice after a
month.

Two dozen gay couples then sued, along with the city and gay rights
organizations.

Thursday's ruling could alter the dynamics of the presidential race and
state and congressional contests in California and beyond by causing a
backlash among conservatives and drawing them to the polls in large
numbers.

A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the
Arizona senator "doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions."
The campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton said they believe
that the issue of marriage should be left to the states.

Ten states now offer some form of legal recognition to same-sex couples ?
in most cases, domestic partnerships or civil unions. In the past few
years, the courts in New York, New Jersey and Washington state have
refused to allow gay marriage.

Outside the San Francisco courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried and
cheered as news spread of the decision. Jeanie Rizzo, one of the
plaintiffs, called Pali Cooper, her partner of 19 years, via cell phone
and asked, "Pali, will you marry me?"

Shannon Minter of the National Center for Lesbian Rights said same-sex
marriage advocates could not have hoped for a more favorable ruling by the
Republican-dominated court. "It's a total victory," Minter said.

California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic
partners many of the legal rights and responsibilities afforded to married
couples, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support.

Citing a 1948 California Supreme Court decision that overturned a ban on
interracial marriages, the justices struck down the state's 1977 one-man,
one-woman marriage law, as well as a similar, voter-approved law that
passed with 61 percent in 2000.

The chief justice was joined by Justices Joyce Kennard and Kathryn
Werdegar, all three of whom were appointed by Republican governors, and
Justice Carlos Moreno, the only member of the court appointed by a
Democrat.

In a dissent, Justice Marvin Baxter agreed with many arguments of the
majority but said that the court overstepped its authority and that
changes to marriage laws should be decided by the voters. Justices Ming
Chin and Carol Corrigan also dissented.

California's secretary of state is expected to rule by the end of June
whether the sponsors gathered enough signatures to put the gay-marriage
amendment on the ballot.

Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has twice vetoed legislation
that would have granted marriage to same-sex couples, said in a statement
that he respected the court's decision and "will not support an amendment
to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court ruling."

___

Associated Press writers Terence Chea, Jason Dearen, Juliana Barbassa and
Evelyn Nieves in San Francisco and Liz Sidoti in Washington contributed to
this report.




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May 16 01:23:49 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 01:23:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: [GPCA Official Notice] Next Plenary in Orange
	County
Message-ID: <3062.38.99.84.36.1210926229.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] Next Plenary in Orange County
From:    "County Contacts" <contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org>
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2008 18:58
To:      "County Contacts" <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more information,
or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply.
 Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Greens -

The next Green Party General Assembly will be in Dana Point, Orange County
on Aug. 23-24. More details will be posted at http://cagreens.org/plenary/
as they become available.


The draft minutes for the April General Assembly are now available at
http://cagreens.org/plenary/archives/. The common password is required, and
remember that it has changed since April General Assembly.


Larry Mullen, GPCA CC Coco


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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May 16 01:31:29 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 01:31:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: One hundred Green letters by May 31!
Message-ID: <3079.38.99.84.36.1210926689.squirrel@www.greens.org>


One hundred Green letters by May 31!

(Please forward this as widely as possible to
Green Party members & friends)

The Media Committee challenges Greens all over to
put the Green Party and our candidates on the
media map!

Our goal is to see ONE HUNDRED letters to the
editor sent by Greens to newspapers throughout
the US by the end of May.  If enough letters get
sent, a good percentage will get published, and
hundreds of thousands -- maybe millions -- of
voters will read about the Green Party and Green
candidates.

If you'd rather submit an op-ed column or an
article to the newspaper of your choice, that's
fine too!

What should you write about?  It's up to you:

? Your favorite Green candidate for President of
the United States

? Your favorite Green candidate for the US House,
US Senate, state legislature, county
commissioner, city council, mayor, school board,
or any other office

? The upcoming Green National Convention in
Chicago, July 10-13

? The Green Party's demand for immediate
withdrawal of troops from Iraq

? The Green Party's demand for real action on
global warming, rather than ineffective
corporate-friendly half measures

? The Green Party's support for single-payer
national health care

? Another Green Party position that you consider
important

? Anything else you can think of about the Green
Party or Green candidates!


Here are some suggestions:

? Keep your letter concise & focused.  Five or
six sentences is good, but in most larger
newspapers, anything longer is in danger of
getting edited or immediately rejected.  In many
local papers, they'll be happy to print a longer
letter.  Op-eds & articles can be longer, too.
Check the newspaper's guidelines on submissions.

? Use the word GREEN at least once, preferably a
few times, so it's clear that your favorite
candidate is a Green candidate, or the position
you're espousing is a Green position.  Mention
that you're a Green Party member and try to work
in the web site of the national party (gp.org) or
your local or state party.

? If you can, use a personal angle.  For example,
if a family member can't pay a medical bill or is
on the front line in Iraq, it might be worth
mentioning in a letter to the editor about the
Green Party's position on health care or the war.

? Respond to an already published article or
column.  For example, a recent column in The
Progressive by Adolph Reed (May 2008 issue,
http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508) on why
he isn't supporting Barack Obama deserves a Green
reply: why doesn't Mr. Reed mention the Green
presidential candidates?

? Read "How to Place an Op-Ed or Letter in the
Top 100 US Newspapers"
http://theopedproject.org/content/view/8/8/

Start writing letters!  If you get published, let
us know -- and post it on Green Party discussion
lists too, so other Greens can read it too.

Scott McLarty
mclarty at greens.org
Media Committee
Green Party of the United States
http://www.gp.org






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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri May 16 08:34:58 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:34:58 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Yard Sale Update - Stuff coming...
In-Reply-To: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>
References: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>
Message-ID: <F51B42A4-3C17-449B-86A7-6878FF27B86B@cagreens.org>

I can bring stuff early Saturday morning and stay to work for a  
while.  They will be premarked unless I don't care what you sell them  
for.  BTW, I didn't send any further emails as no one seemed to  
respond to queries, so I assumed it was a done deal, so I stayed out  
of it.  Ideas not needed.  That sort of thing.
Andrea

On May 11, 2008, at 7:23 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:

> I spoke with Merriam this afternoon...  There seems to be a lack of  
> volunteers for actually dealing with people who might come to the  
> yard sale.  Only one person volunteering to help set up Saturday  
> morning (Jim Doyle).  No one identified for set up Sunday am.   
> Also...  only one person has delivered items so far (Caroline).  No  
> one has called or emailed abouat bringing sale items ahead of next  
> Saturday...  Items being brought Saturday morning need to be  
> premarked for price.  Stuff really should be brought ahead of  
> time...   Merriam did report that she has sign posters and sign  
> removers set up for the neighborhood.  Remember:  The whole point  
> of this is to raise money of the GPSCC, especially to fund a pre- 
> election newsletter next September.
> If you have items to bring, let me know when to expect their arrival.
>
> Warner  408-295-9353
>
>
>
> Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family  
> favorites at AOL Food.
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May 16 09:26:35 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:26:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Yard Sale Update - Stuff coming...
In-Reply-To: <F51B42A4-3C17-449B-86A7-6878FF27B86B@cagreens.org>
References: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>
	<F51B42A4-3C17-449B-86A7-6878FF27B86B@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <3550.38.99.84.36.1210955195.squirrel@www.greens.org>

I'm going to try to bring some stuff by today.


Green is Decentralized!

Drew


On Fri, May 16, 2008 08:34, Andrea Dorey wrote:
> I can bring stuff early Saturday morning and stay to work for a
> while.  They will be premarked unless I don't care what you sell them
> for.  BTW, I didn't send any further emails as no one seemed to
> respond to queries, so I assumed it was a done deal, so I stayed out
> of it.  Ideas not needed.  That sort of thing.
> Andrea
>
> On May 11, 2008, at 7:23 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> I spoke with Merriam this afternoon...  There seems to be a lack of
>> volunteers for actually dealing with people who might come to the
>> yard sale.  Only one person volunteering to help set up Saturday
>> morning (Jim Doyle).  No one identified for set up Sunday am.
>> Also...  only one person has delivered items so far (Caroline).  No
>> one has called or emailed abouat bringing sale items ahead of next
>> Saturday...  Items being brought Saturday morning need to be
>> premarked for price.  Stuff really should be brought ahead of
>> time...   Merriam did report that she has sign posters and sign
>> removers set up for the neighborhood.  Remember:  The whole point
>> of this is to raise money of the GPSCC, especially to fund a pre-
>> election newsletter next September.
>> If you have items to bring, let me know when to expect their arrival.
>>
>> Warner  408-295-9353
>>
>>
>>
>> Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
>> favorites at AOL Food.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Fri May 16 12:06:45 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:06:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Yard Sale Update - Stuff coming...
In-Reply-To: <F51B42A4-3C17-449B-86A7-6878FF27B86B@cagreens.org>
References: <cec.324be663.35590417@aol.com>	<F51B42A4-3C17-449B-86A7-6878FF27B86B@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <482DDB45.1030906@freeshell.org>

Lois and/or I will be there beginning sometime between 8:30 and 9:00 and 
will try to remain until about 3 pm, providing the heat doesn't melt us.

I doubt that we will return on Sunday. (I'll be gathering petition 
signatures at the MV Farmers Market, Sunday.)

Fred D.


I'm going to try to bring some stuff by today.


Green is Decentralized!

Drew


On Fri, May 16, 2008 08:34, Andrea Dorey wrote:
> I can bring stuff early Saturday morning and stay to work for a
> while.  They will be premarked unless I don't care what you sell them
> for.  BTW, I didn't send any further emails as no one seemed to
> respond to queries, so I assumed it was a done deal, so I stayed out
> of it.  Ideas not needed.  That sort of thing.
> Andrea
>
> On May 11, 2008, at 7:23 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> I spoke with Merriam this afternoon...  There seems to be a lack of
>> volunteers for actually dealing with people who might come to the
>> yard sale.  Only one person volunteering to help set up Saturday
>> morning (Jim Doyle).  No one identified for set up Sunday am.
>> Also...  only one person has delivered items so far (Caroline).  No
>> one has called or emailed abouat bringing sale items ahead of next
>> Saturday...  Items being brought Saturday morning need to be
>> premarked for price.  Stuff really should be brought ahead of
>> time...   Merriam did report that she has sign posters and sign
>> removers set up for the neighborhood.  Remember:  The whole point
>> of this is to raise money of the GPSCC, especially to fund a pre-
>> election newsletter next September.
>> If you have items to bring, let me know when to expect their arrival.
>>
>> Warner  408-295-9353
>>
>>
>>
>> Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
>> favorites at AOL Food.
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
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From jims at greens.org  Sat May 17 14:28:28 2008
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 14:28:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Recruiting for CC Rep from Silicon Valley
Message-ID: <482F4DFC.3030905@greens.org>



It is time for the Silicon Valley Region to elect a new state Coordinating 
Committee (CC) Representative. Counties are allowed to elect a rep and an 
alternate rep. In this region, we typically elect the rep and the alt from 
different counties.

The term of office for a CC rep is two years. San Mateo and Santa Clara have 
adopted an alternate elections procedure so we can elect the rep in our 
county meetings rather than at the general assembly, if we so choose.

The CC is the administrative body of the GPCA. It's main duties include 
organizing the state General Assemblies (plenaries), executing the decisions 
of the General Assemblies, and coordinating the work of the various state 
committees and working groups. The committee description from the state 
bylaws is:

7-1.1 Duties and Authority
The Coordinating Committee shall be generally responsible for coordinating 
meetings, internal communications and other administrative tasks, including 
the following:
a) Establish agenda and select facilitators for general meetings.
b) Monitor and assist committee work and refer matters to committees.
c) Request and receive regular reports from committees.
d) Authorize and ratify specific expenditures
e) Authorize and carry out the decisions of the GPCA general membership and 
make executive decisions (but not set policy) between General Assembly meetings.
f) May make statements in the name of the party
g) Is authorized to retain legal council on behalf of the GPCA.
h) Is authorized to make decisions which legal counsel advises.
-----------------


This is a good opportunity for someone who wants experience administering a 
large organization. Or, for someone with administrative experience who can 
lend their skills to the party.

The GPCA has a decentralized structure and uses a consensus-seeking decision 
model. These high ideals of democracy require a well-functioning 
infrastructure, since it constitutes a leaderless structure that relies on 
personal responsibility to move the party forward. It is the job of the CC 
to make this work.

CC reps are required to attend CC teleconferences. There are one or two each 
month, depending on how busy the CC is that month. Also, since this is an 
administrative body, CC reps are expected to help with various tasks. One 
common task is acting as liaison to one of the committees/working groups.

A common question is, "how many hours per week does this take?" Well, it 
depends on how busy we are and how many jobs you've volunteered for. A busy 
week can find you putting in 10 hours; an easy week requires one or two 
hours. Time management is a skill all CC reps come to learn.

A personal opinion:

Over the past few years the CC gained a reputation of being a dysfunctional 
body. That was true, but no longer. Any body is only as functional as its 
members are functional. The last several years has seen the CC brought to 
dysfunctionality by a group from LA county that has kept the LA Green Party 
dysfunctional for many years. Dysfunctionality is contagious. But, like most 
contagious diseases, it runs its course and slowly abates.

The dysfunctional people are mostly gone from the CC now. There are still a 
few that try to obstruct progress, but their influence is minimal. Today, 
the CC is mostly a group of nice people who care about the party. But most 
of them are new to the CC and feel somewhat unsure of what they're suppose 
to do, or how it's done. There are three "old timers" currently on the CC -- 
myself, Mike Wyman and Michael Borenstein. We are called on frequently for 
advise and guidance.

Given the current state of the CC, I'm willing to stay on as the alternate 
rep if this helps recruit someone for the main rep position.

Feel free to call me if you have any questions.

Jim Stauffer
408-432-9148



From andid at cagreens.org  Sat May 17 17:16:42 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:16:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California's top court legalizes gay marriage
In-Reply-To: <2345.38.99.84.36.1210909162.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <2345.38.99.84.36.1210909162.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <DB66414C-0525-4B18-AC2B-7EF0E6619B14@cagreens.org>

Yay!  The only reasonable conclusion.
"What the world needs now is love, sweet love"?whatever form it takes  
so long as it is egalitarian and good for the people involved!
Andi

On May 15, 2008, at 8:39 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080516/ap_on_re_us/ 
> gay_marriage;_ylt=AnTae27yXxoHk5cR_EBDXsGs0NUE
>  California's top court legalizes gay marriage
>
> By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer
>
> SAN FRANCISCO - California's Supreme Court declared gay couples in the
> nation's biggest state can marry ? a monumental but perhaps short- 
> lived
> victory for the gay rights movement Thursday that was greeted with  
> tears,
> hugs, kisses and at least one instant proposal of matrimony.
>
> Same-sex couples could tie the knot in as little as a month. But the
> window could close soon after ? religious and social conservatives are
> pressing to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot in  
> November that
> would undo the Supreme Court ruling and ban gay marriage.
>
> "Essentially, this boils down to love. We love each other. We now have
> equal rights under the law," declared a jubilant Robin Tyler, a  
> plaintiff
> in the case along with her partner. She added: "We're going to get
> married. No Tupperware, please."
>
> A crowd of people raised their fists in triumph inside City Hall, and
> people wrapped themselves in the rainbow-colored gay-pride flag  
> outside
> the courthouse. In the Castro, the historic center of the gay  
> community in
> San Francisco, Tim Oviatt wept as he watched the news on TV.
>
> "I've been waiting for this all my life. This is a life-affirming  
> moment,"
> he said.
>
> By the afternoon, gay and lesbian couples had already started  
> lining up at
> San Francisco City Hall to make appointments to get marriage  
> licenses. In
> West Hollywood, supporters were planning to serve "wedding cake" at an
> evening celebration.
>
> James Dobson, chairman of the conservative Christian group Focus on  
> the
> Family, called the ruling an "outrage."
>
> "It will be up to the people of California to preserve traditional
> marriage by passing a constitutional amendment. ... Only then can they
> protect themselves from this latest example of judicial tyranny,"  
> he said
> in an e-mail statement.
>
> In its 4-3 ruling, the Republican-dominated high court struck down  
> state
> laws against same-sex marriage and said domestic partnerships that  
> provide
> many of the rights and benefits of matrimony are not enough.
>
> "In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an
> individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed
> relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise
> children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation,"  
> Chief
> Justice Ronald George wrote for the majority in ringing language that
> delighted gay rights activists.
>
> Massachusetts is the only other state to legalize gay marriage,  
> something
> it did in 2004. The California ruling is considered monumental by  
> virtue
> of the state's size ? 38 million out of a U.S. population of 302  
> million ?
> and its historic role in the vanguard of the many social and cultural
> changes that have swept the country since World War II.
>
> California has an estimated 92,000 same-sex couples.
>
> "It's about human dignity. It's about human rights. It's about time in
> California," San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, pumping his fist in the
> air, told a roaring crowd at City Hall. "As California goes, so  
> goes the
> rest of the nation. It's inevitable. This door's wide open now.  
> It's going
> to happen, whether you like it or not."
>
> Unlike Massachusetts, California has no residency requirement for
> obtaining a marriage license, meaning gays from around the country are
> likely to flock to the state to be wed, said Jennifer Pizer, a gay- 
> rights
> attorney who worked on the case.
>
> The ultimate reach of the ruling could be limited, however, since most
> states do not recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere. Nor does  
> the
> federal government.
>
> The conservative Alliance Defense Fund said it would ask the  
> justices for
> a stay of the decision until after the fall election in hopes of  
> adding
> California to the list of 26 states that have approved constitutional
> amendments banning same-sex marriage.
>
> "We're obviously very disappointed in the decision. The remedy is a
> constitutional amendment. The constitution defines marriage as a union
> between one man and one woman," said Glen Lavy, senior counsel for the
> organization.
>
> Randy Thomasson of VoteYesMarriage.com, a campaign to amend the  
> California
> Constitution to ban gay marriage, said the decision was in effect  
> telling
> children that they have a "new role model ? homosexual marriage,  
> aspire to
> it.
>
> "This is a disaster," he said.
>
> Opponents of gay marriage could also ask the high court to  
> reconsider. If
> the court rejects such a request, same-sex couples could start getting
> married in 30 days, the time it typically takes for the justices'  
> opinions
> to become final.
>
> The justices said they would direct state officials "to take all  
> actions
> necessary to effectuate our ruling," including requiring county  
> marriage
> clerks to carry out their duties "in a manner consistent with" the  
> court's
> decision.
>
> James Vaughn, director of the California Log Cabin Republicans,  
> called the
> ruling a "conservative one."
>
> "The justices have ensured that the law treats all Californians  
> fairly and
> equally. This decision is a good one for all families, gay and non- 
> gay,"
> Vaughn said.
>
> The case was set in motion in 2004 when the mayor of San Francisco  
> ? the
> unofficial capital of gay America ? threw City Hall open to gay  
> couples to
> get married in a calculated challenge to California law. Four- 
> thousand gay
> couples wed before the Supreme Court put a halt to the practice  
> after a
> month.
>
> Two dozen gay couples then sued, along with the city and gay rights
> organizations.
>
> Thursday's ruling could alter the dynamics of the presidential race  
> and
> state and congressional contests in California and beyond by causing a
> backlash among conservatives and drawing them to the polls in large
> numbers.
>
> A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage,  
> said the
> Arizona senator "doesn't believe judges should be making these  
> decisions."
> The campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton said they  
> believe
> that the issue of marriage should be left to the states.
>
> Ten states now offer some form of legal recognition to same-sex  
> couples ?
> in most cases, domestic partnerships or civil unions. In the past few
> years, the courts in New York, New Jersey and Washington state have
> refused to allow gay marriage.
>
> Outside the San Francisco courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried  
> and
> cheered as news spread of the decision. Jeanie Rizzo, one of the
> plaintiffs, called Pali Cooper, her partner of 19 years, via cell  
> phone
> and asked, "Pali, will you marry me?"
>
> Shannon Minter of the National Center for Lesbian Rights said same-sex
> marriage advocates could not have hoped for a more favorable ruling  
> by the
> Republican-dominated court. "It's a total victory," Minter said.
>
> California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic
> partners many of the legal rights and responsibilities afforded to  
> married
> couples, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support.
>
> Citing a 1948 California Supreme Court decision that overturned a  
> ban on
> interracial marriages, the justices struck down the state's 1977  
> one-man,
> one-woman marriage law, as well as a similar, voter-approved law that
> passed with 61 percent in 2000.
>
> The chief justice was joined by Justices Joyce Kennard and Kathryn
> Werdegar, all three of whom were appointed by Republican governors,  
> and
> Justice Carlos Moreno, the only member of the court appointed by a
> Democrat.
>
> In a dissent, Justice Marvin Baxter agreed with many arguments of the
> majority but said that the court overstepped its authority and that
> changes to marriage laws should be decided by the voters. Justices  
> Ming
> Chin and Carol Corrigan also dissented.
>
> California's secretary of state is expected to rule by the end of June
> whether the sponsors gathered enough signatures to put the gay- 
> marriage
> amendment on the ballot.
>
> Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has twice vetoed  
> legislation
> that would have granted marriage to same-sex couples, said in a  
> statement
> that he respected the court's decision and "will not support an  
> amendment
> to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court  
> ruling."
>
> ___
>
> Associated Press writers Terence Chea, Jason Dearen, Juliana  
> Barbassa and
> Evelyn Nieves in San Francisco and Liz Sidoti in Washington  
> contributed to
> this report.
>
>
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sun May 18 05:23:21 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Sun.SF:McKinney Fundraiser and Speaks @ Free
	Mumia Forum
Message-ID: <3141.38.99.84.36.1211113401.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Fwd: Sun.SF:McKinney Fundraiser and Speaks @ Free Mumia Forum
From:    "Sanda Everette" <sanda at greens.org>
Date:    Sat, May 17, 2008 16:34
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

* Please Post Widely & Please Excuse Duplicate Postings *
[please post widely to your lists, and please excuse duplicate
postings]

Dear Friends,

Cynthia McKinney, former Congresswoman from Georgia and current
presidential candidate of the Power to the People coalition, will be
in San Francisco on Sunday, May 18, where she will be speaking at a
forum to demand freedom for Mumia Abu-Jamal [see notice below on Mumia
Forum].

At 6 p.m. -- following the Mumia Forum -- Sister McKinney will be at
the Brava Theater Studio in San Francisco's Mission District (2781 -
24th Street, between Florida and Treat) at a fundraising event for her
campaign. She will give a brief presentation and answer questions from
her Bay Area supporters.

Please join us at this important gathering -- and please make sure you
bring your checkbook with you. We'd like to raise a considerable
amount of money for her campaign. (For more information about her
campaign, please go to http://allthingscynthiamckinney.org.)

If you cannot join us at the Brava Theater, you can still make a
contribution toward our effort. Please go to Cynthia McKinney's
campaign website (http://runcynthiarun.org) and make your donation via
PayPal. You can also send your check or money order to Power to the
People, P.O. Box 311759, Atlanta, GA 31131-1759. (Also please fill out
the RSVP/Donation coupon below to let us know you have sent your
donation, so that it can be credited to our fundraiser.)

Sister McKinney's Power to the People campaign needs your support,
urgently. We are looking forward to seeing you at the Brava Theater
Studio in San Francisco on Sunday, May 18 at 6 p.m.

For more information on this Fundraiser, of if you would like to help,
please call 415-641-8616.

In solidarity,

Clarence Thomas, Longshore activist
Cindy Sheehan, Independent candidate for U.S. Congress
Kali Akuno, Reconstruction Movement activist
Mesha Monge-Irizarry, Founder, Idriss Stelley Foundation
Alan Benjamin, Editor, The Organizer newspaper
Tom Lacey, Peace and Freedom Party activist
Martin Zehr, Green Party activist
David Walters, Labor activist
Christy Rogers, Peace and Freedom Party activist
Pablo Rodriguez, Teacher activist
Millie Phillips, Editorial Bd., The Organizer newspaper


**********

Note on Mumia Forum:

Sister Cynthia McKinney will be speaking in San Francisco at a forum
to demand freedom for Mumia Abu-Jamal on Sunday, May 18 at 2 p.m. The
forum is sponsored by the Mobilization to Free Mumia. Other speakers
include Walter Turner from KPFA Radio, Sister Soffiyah Ellijah from
the Criminal Justice Institute of the Harvard Law School, and Cindy
Sheehan, among others. The forum will be held in the auditorium of
ILWU Local 6 at 255 Ninth St. (between Howard and Folsom). For more
info on the forum, please contact 510-268-9429.

* * * * *

RSVP / SUPPORT COUPON

[   ]   I plan to be at the Fundraiser for Sister McKinney on May 18.

[   ]   I will not be able to make it to the McKinney Fundraiser, but
I have sent $ ____ toward her campaign . Please keep me posted on any
future campaign events.

[   ]  You can use my name publicly on any future endorsement letters
or announcements for Cynthia McKinney's Power to the People campaign

NAME

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[ for a PDF version of formatted leaflet for this event go to:  ]
http://picasaweb.google.com/ericblancsf/McKinneyevent ]

Come and Hear
CYNTHIA McKINNEY
Speak in San Francisco
on Sunday, May 18 @6 p.m.
at a Fundraiser for Power to the People Presidential Campaign

Brava Theater Studio
2781 - 24th St. (between Florida & Hampshire)
in S.F. Mission District

Cynthia McKinney, former Congresswoman from Georgia and current
presidential candidate of the Power to the People Committee, will be
speaking at a special fundraising event in San Francisco on Sunday,
May 18 at 6 p.m.
at the Brava Theater Studio in San Francisco's Mission District (2781
- 24th Street, between Florida and Hampshire; 6 blocks from 24th St-
Mission BART station, also accessible by MUNI 48 & 67 bus lines). She
will give a presentation and answer questions.

Please join us at this important gathering -- and please make sure you
bring your checkbook with you. We'd like to raise a considerable
amount of money for her campaign. (For more information about her
campaign, please go to her website at http://www.runcynthiarun.org.)

If you cannot join us at the Brava Theater, you can still make a
contribution toward our effort. Please go to the campaign website and
make your donation via PayPal. You can also send your check or money
order to Power to the People, P.O. Box 311759, Atlanta, GA 31131-1759.
[See RSVP/Support Coupon below.]

Sister McKinney's Power to the People Committee needs your support,
urgently. We are looking forward to seeing you at the Brava Theater
Studio in San Francisco on Sunday, May 18 at 6 p.m.
For more information on this Fundraiser, of if you would like to help
the Power to the People campaign, please call 415-641-8616.

          In solidarity,

Wilson Riles, Jr.,  Former Oakland City Council member
Cindy Sheehan,  Candidate for U.S. Congress
Clarence Thomas,  Longshore activist
Kali Akuno,  Reconstruction Movement activist
Mesha Monge-Irizarry,  Founder, Idriss Stelley Found.
Pablo Rodriguez,  Teacher activist
Krissy Keefer,  Former Green candidate for Congress
Christy Rogers,  Peace and Freedom Party activist
Alan Benjamin,  Editor, The Organizer newspaper
Brenda Cochrane,  Teacher activist
Jonathan Nack,  Green Party activist
Emily Montan,  UPTE-CWA 9119 member
Tom Lacey,  Peace and Freedom Party activist
Millie Phillips,  Editorial Bd., The Organizer newspaper
Martin Zehr,  Green Party activist
Markus Duskin,  Peace and Freedom Party activist
David Walters,  Labor activist
Dave Welsh,  Unionist, Retired Letter Carrier

**********

Earlier on May 18, Sister McKinney Will Be Speaking at Forum to Free
Mumia!:

Sister Cynthia McKinney will be speaking in San Francisco at a forum
to demand freedom for Mumia Abu-Jamal on Sunday, May 18 at 2 p.m. The
forum is sponsored by the Mobilization to Free Mumia. Other speakers
include Walter Turner from KPFA Radio, Sister Soffiyah Ellijah from
the Criminal Justice Institute of the Harvard Law School, and Cindy
Sheehan, among others. The forum will be held in the auditorium of
ILWU Local 6 at 255 Ninth St. (between Howard and Folsom). For more
info on the forum, please contact 510-268-9429.

* * * * *

RSVP / SUPPORT COUPON

[   ]   I plan to be at the Fundraiser for Sister McKinney on May 18.

[   ]   I will not be able to make it to the McKinney Fundraiser, but
I have sent $ ____ toward her campaign . Please keep me posted on any
future campaign events.

[   ]  You can use my name publicly on any future endorsement letters
or announcements for Cynthia McKinney's Power to the People campaign

NAME

ORGANIZATION

CITY

STATE

EMAIL

TEL

(please fill out and return to at <ilcinfo at earthlink.net>,
<m_zehr at hotmail.com. and <patty at igc.org>)




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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon May 19 07:06:54 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 07:06:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Yard Sale Accomplishments -- Yeah us!
Message-ID: <2862.38.99.84.36.1211206014.squirrel@www.greens.org>

1) Organized and carried out a logistically challenging event
2) Involved and activated many Greens in the process.
3) At the event participants got in some good Green fellowship
2) Brought in several hundred dollars (Jim Doyle or Warner will have a
final $  when all the $$ comes in -- I think there's a few items where the
$ is still on the way).
3) Tim Alvarado passing the donated items that were not sold passed on to
those in need (ask him for further details).


Things to do better next time:

Increase turnout through:
1) Improved publicity.
 a) more strategically placed and attractive signage.
 b) use our e-mail lists more effectively
2) Improved site presentation and environment
 a) neater, more attractive yard appearance
 b) more shade provided
 c) cool misting and lemonade sales
 d) more merchandising
3) Explore different location possibilities


Green is Evolving!

Drew



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon May 19 12:11:55 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:11:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPCA: Greens trumpet gay marriage decision,
 ask where other political parties have been...
Message-ID: <3433.38.99.84.36.1211224315.squirrel@www.greens.org>

News Advisory
THE GREEN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA        www.cagreens.org

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, May 19, 2008
Contact:  Susan King, spokesperson, 415.823-5524 sking at cagreens.org
	    Dr. Robert Vizzard, spokesperson, 916.206 8953, rvizzard at cagreens.org
	    Daniel Brezenoff, spokesperson, 310.422-2211 dbrezenoff at cagreens.org
	    Cres Vellucci, GPCA press secretary,  916.996-9170
cvellucci at cagreens.org

Green Party of California trumpets support
for gay marriage decision, asks other political
parties where they've been for the past 15 years?

SAN FRANCISCO, Ca. (May 19, 2008) ? The Green Party of California ? which,
unlike the other national political parties, has strongly advocated for the
legalization of same-sex marriage  for more than 15 years ? heralded the
California Supreme Court's decision late last week to finally legalize the
marriage of couples of the same sex.

"The Los Angeles LGBT Greens welcome the decision to make same sex marriage
legal in California. The Green Party of California has had this objective
in its Platform for many, many years, and it has been supported by Green
Party presidential candidates consistently during this time," said Shane
Que Hee, LA LGBT Greens facilitator.

But, while same-sex couples could tie the knot in about a month, a state
ballot measure may change everything in November.

"We caution our LGBTIQ communities that we must still fight the Initiative
for Constitutional Amendment to ban same sex marriage in the State Election
in November of this year, and that the California Green Party and our
national party must continue to demand LGBTIQ rights. Much needs to be
done," Que Hee added.

Greens note it was a Republican ? not Democratic Party ? dominated high
court that struck down state laws, by a 4-3 vote, and said domestic
partnerships were not enough. Massachusetts is the only other state to
legalize gay marriage -- in 2004.

The GPCA Platform goes even further than the decision. It calls not just
for the "freedom" to marry "without discrimination, based on sex, gender or
sexual orientation," but for non-discriminatory laws regarding the right
for children to be cared for "in loving homes," equal education and care
rights, and the right of "intersex and transgender individuals to be free
of coercion and involuntary assignment of gender or sex."

More can be found at: www.cagreens.org/platform/platform_justice.shtml#sogige

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Mon May 19 16:13:06 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:13:06 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [HCAC-Act] FW: David Wald announcement -
 please forward to friends]
Message-ID: <48320982.1060400@freeshell.org>

Sad news.  David Wald, the Peninsula's indomitable humanitarian passed 
away today.  It was a privilege and honor to have  known him.  (See below.)

Fred D.



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[HCAC-Act] FW: David Wald announcement - please forward to 
friends
Date: 	Mon, 19 May 2008 15:34:43 -0700
From: 	Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Reply-To: 	lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com
To: 	HCAC Activists <hcac-act at svpal.org>, One Care Now 
<onecarenow at svpal.org>
References: 	<a06240817c4577b75eda1@[192.168.11.2]>



For those of you who didn't know Dave he was a very special person. An engineer, a Congressional candidate, a peace activist; he touched many people's lives. He spent years sending computers to Cuba to the doctors so they could have an integrated system including travelling to Mexico to oversee their delivery. He had to fight the US Govt. continually to get them there. He met Castro. His second medical opinion was by the Cuban doctors who loved him as his scans were sent to them electronically.
 
I loved debating politics with him. He was so knowledgeable. He continued to attend HCA meetings until recently and donated to the chapter so we could spread the word about Single Payer.
I love the story here where he insisted that he shave himself!  He was one of a kind.
Lynn. H.
 
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:51:06 -0700> To: ymple at msn.com; lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com> From: jam at batnet.com> Subject: David Wald announcement - please forward to friends> > David Wald died at 6 a.m. Sunday, May 18.> > His wife Joan Bazar had written that Saturday was an especially good > day for David -- her daughter dropped off strawberries from the > Farmers Market in Santa Clara, his two sons took him out to the park > nearby in his wheelchair, and an InfoMed stalwart stopped by to move > his computer to the bedroom.> > David had had a CT scan a week ago that showed that the cancer he had > been fighting for two years had made substantially inroads into his > liver. He had been marking milestones for several months -- for > example, not being sure he'd make it to his 80th birthday but doing > so. Last December he and Joan managed to make the trip to Cuba for > him to receive a special award for years of work helping provide > computers for the InfoMed project, assisting with medical > information. He attended a local Health Care for All meeting in > March, including a discussion of the status of the radio > advertisement project he had begun, to help educate the public and > support single payer healthcare. Others will carry that media project > to fruition.> > On May 9, the night of the fundraiser for the SJ Peace and Justice > Center with the Pete Seeger film, David was in the hospital. When the > audience sang the song Guantanamera, Annie and the Vets shared that > it's David's favorite song.> > Last week there had been first visits from a hospice nurse, a social > worker, and a home care person who was frustrated because David > wanted to shave himself instead of letting her do it for him. Nurse > friends had been very helpful with care. David was doing well in the > mornings but fading by late afternoon -- something typical of the > disease. The difference was drastic.> > Planning for a celebration of David's life has begun but no date has > been set. Call Roz Dean to offer to help (408-923-7001).

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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Mon May 19 18:18:15 2008
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (cls at truffula.sj.ca.us)
Date: 20 May 2008 01:18:15 -0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [HCAC-Act] FW: David Wald announcement
	- please forward to friends]
Message-ID: <20080520011815.11523.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>


David was an inspiration.  Always full of the best kind
of energy.  I am sure he would want us to go out and
celebrate his life, not mourn his passing.
I feel richer for having known him.

Cameron




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 19 21:21:13 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:21:13 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Doyle out of town
Message-ID: <483251B9.8000009@sbcglobal.net>

I will be out of town until next Monday.
A death in the family on the east coast.
Jim Doyle


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon May 19 22:01:13 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:01:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: David Wald announcement - please forward
	to friends
In-Reply-To: <48320982.1060400@freeshell.org>
References: <48320982.1060400@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <1880.38.99.84.36.1211259673.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Although I only got to work with him a little I felt honored to spend the
time I got to with him.  He had this aura of wisdom about him that really
got to me.

David was a part of the SCC Single Payer Healthcare coalition that Fred, I
and Jim Doyle have participated in on behalf of the GPSC. He also worked
on the big October 27th Peace rally that Merriam helped coordinate.

I didn't realize it until just now, but I had contact with him re: the
InfoMed project probably 10 years or more ago when I donated some
HeartBeat Earth computer equipment.  Hopefully some of it was useful and
made it to Cuba to help out.


David thank you for your many contributions and may we carry on our
activism  inspired by the light you have shed in this world.


Drew


On Mon, May 19, 2008 18:18, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
>
> David was an inspiration.  Always full of the best kind
> of energy.  I am sure he would want us to go out and
> celebrate his life, not mourn his passing.
> I feel richer for having known him.
>
> Cameron

On Mon, May 19, 2008 16:13, Fred Duperrault wrote:
> Sad news.  David Wald, the Peninsula's indomitable humanitarian passed
> away today.  It was a privilege and honor to have  known him.  (See
> below.)
>
> Fred D.
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	[HCAC-Act] FW: David Wald announcement - please forward to
> friends
> Date: 	Mon, 19 May 2008 15:34:43 -0700
> From: 	Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: 	lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com
> To: 	HCAC Activists <hcac-act at svpal.org>, One Care Now
> <onecarenow at svpal.org>
> References: 	<a06240817c4577b75eda1@[192.168.11.2]>
>
>
>
> For those of you who didn't know Dave he was a very special person. An
> engineer, a Congressional candidate, a peace activist; he touched many
> people's lives. He spent years sending computers to Cuba to the doctors so
> they could have an integrated system including travelling to Mexico to
> oversee their delivery. He had to fight the US Govt. continually to get
> them there. He met Castro. His second medical opinion was by the Cuban
> doctors who loved him as his scans were sent to them electronically.
>
> I loved debating politics with him. He was so knowledgeable. He continued
> to attend HCA meetings until recently and donated to the chapter so we
> could spread the word about Single Payer.
> I love the story here where he insisted that he shave himself!  He was one
> of a kind.
> Lynn. H.
>
>> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:51:06 -0700> To: ymple at msn.com;
>> lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com> From: jam at batnet.com> Subject: David Wald
>> announcement - please forward to friends> > David Wald died at 6 a.m.
>> Sunday, May 18.> > His wife Joan Bazar had written that Saturday was an
>> especially good > day for David -- her daughter dropped off strawberries
>> from the > Farmers Market in Santa Clara, his two sons took him out to
>> the park > nearby in his wheelchair, and an InfoMed stalwart stopped by
>> to move > his computer to the bedroom.> > David had had a CT scan a week
>> ago that showed that the cancer he had > been fighting for two years had
>> made substantially inroads into his > liver. He had been marking
>> milestones for several months -- for > example, not being sure he'd make
>> it to his 80th birthday but doing > so. Last December he and Joan
>> managed to make the trip to Cuba for > him to receive a special award
>> for years of work helping provide > computers for the InfoMed project,
>> assisting with medical > information. He attended a local Health Care
>> for All meeting in > March, including a discussion of the status of the
>> radio > advertisement project he had begun, to help educate the public
>> and > support single payer healthcare. Others will carry that media
>> project > to fruition.> > On May 9, the night of the fundraiser for the
>> SJ Peace and Justice > Center with the Pete Seeger film, David was in
>> the hospital. When the > audience sang the song Guantanamera, Annie and
>> the Vets shared that > it's David's favorite song.> > Last week there
>> had been first visits from a hospice nurse, a social > worker, and a
>> home care person who was frustrated because David > wanted to shave
>> himself instead of letting her do it for him. Nurse > friends had been
>> very helpful with care. David was doing well in the > mornings but
>> fading by late afternoon -- something typical of the > disease. The
>> difference was drastic.> > Planning for a celebration of David's life
>> has begun but no date has > been set. Call Roz Dean to offer to help
>> (408-923-7001).
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue May 20 00:42:36 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 00:42:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [HCAC-Act] FW: David Wald announcement-
 please forward to friends]
In-Reply-To: <20080520011815.11523.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20080520011815.11523.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <483280EC.5080905@aceweb.com>

What he said. The last time I talked to him was when we marched on 
Honda's office some time late last year. He said he had cancer.
Somewhere in the discussion he said he had run for statewide office
a number of times. He had lots of stories about the difference between
being a grass roots candidate and being an incumbent/republicrat.
I'm sad that he's left us.

cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
> David was an inspiration.  Always full of the best kind
> of energy.  I am sure he would want us to go out and
> celebrate his life, not mourn his passing.
> I feel richer for having known him.
> 
> Cameron
> 
> 
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added bike to work day pictures from Silicon Valley.


From mkmusic at greens.org  Tue May 20 00:48:22 2008
From: mkmusic at greens.org (Merriam Kathaleen)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 00:48:22 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: David Wald announcement - please forward
 to friends
In-Reply-To: <1880.38.99.84.36.1211259673.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <48320982.1060400@freeshell.org>
	<1880.38.99.84.36.1211259673.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <48328246.1000109@greens.org>

I knew Dave for the last year and a half.  He was passionate about 
impeaching "The Bums".  He was one of the initial people who joined the 
South Bay Impeachment Group prior to us all forming the Silicon Valley 
Impeachment Coalition.  I feel very privileged  to have known him.  
Several weeks ago  I sat next to him at a Veterans For Peace event at 
the San Jose Peace and Justice Center, we talked, we laughed  and yes, 
he shared his cynicism along with a twinkle in his eye.  I was so happy 
to see him and to sit next to him and talk together.  I will miss him 
very much.  I feel very honored to have known him.  And yes, Cameron,  I 
too am sure he would want us to go out and celebrate his life, not mourn 
his passing.

Merriam


Drew Johnson wrote:
> Although I only got to work with him a little I felt honored to spend the
> time I got to with him.  He had this aura of wisdom about him that really
> got to me.
>
> David was a part of the SCC Single Payer Healthcare coalition that Fred, I
> and Jim Doyle have participated in on behalf of the GPSC. He also worked
> on the big October 27th Peace rally that Merriam helped coordinate.
>
> I didn't realize it until just now, but I had contact with him re: the
> InfoMed project probably 10 years or more ago when I donated some
> HeartBeat Earth computer equipment.  Hopefully some of it was useful and
> made it to Cuba to help out.
>
>
> David thank you for your many contributions and may we carry on our
> activism  inspired by the light you have shed in this world.
>
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 18:18, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
>   
>> David was an inspiration.  Always full of the best kind
>> of energy.  I am sure he would want us to go out and
>> celebrate his life, not mourn his passing.
>> I feel richer for having known him.
>>
>> Cameron
>>     
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 16:13, Fred Duperrault wrote:
>   
>> Sad news.  David Wald, the Peninsula's indomitable humanitarian passed
>> away today.  It was a privilege and honor to have  known him.  (See
>> below.)
>>
>> Fred D.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: 	[HCAC-Act] FW: David Wald announcement - please forward to
>> friends
>> Date: 	Mon, 19 May 2008 15:34:43 -0700
>> From: 	Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
>> Reply-To: 	lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com
>> To: 	HCAC Activists <hcac-act at svpal.org>, One Care Now
>> <onecarenow at svpal.org>
>> References: 	<a06240817c4577b75eda1@[192.168.11.2]>
>>
>>
>>
>> For those of you who didn't know Dave he was a very special person. An
>> engineer, a Congressional candidate, a peace activist; he touched many
>> people's lives. He spent years sending computers to Cuba to the doctors so
>> they could have an integrated system including travelling to Mexico to
>> oversee their delivery. He had to fight the US Govt. continually to get
>> them there. He met Castro. His second medical opinion was by the Cuban
>> doctors who loved him as his scans were sent to them electronically.
>>
>> I loved debating politics with him. He was so knowledgeable. He continued
>> to attend HCA meetings until recently and donated to the chapter so we
>> could spread the word about Single Payer.
>> I love the story here where he insisted that he shave himself!  He was one
>> of a kind.
>> Lynn. H.
>>
>>     
>>> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:51:06 -0700> To: ymple at msn.com;
>>> lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com> From: jam at batnet.com> Subject: David Wald
>>> announcement - please forward to friends> > David Wald died at 6 a.m.
>>> Sunday, May 18.> > His wife Joan Bazar had written that Saturday was an
>>> especially good > day for David -- her daughter dropped off strawberries
>>> from the > Farmers Market in Santa Clara, his two sons took him out to
>>> the park > nearby in his wheelchair, and an InfoMed stalwart stopped by
>>> to move > his computer to the bedroom.> > David had had a CT scan a week
>>> ago that showed that the cancer he had > been fighting for two years had
>>> made substantially inroads into his > liver. He had been marking
>>> milestones for several months -- for > example, not being sure he'd make
>>> it to his 80th birthday but doing > so. Last December he and Joan
>>> managed to make the trip to Cuba for > him to receive a special award
>>> for years of work helping provide > computers for the InfoMed project,
>>> assisting with medical > information. He attended a local Health Care
>>> for All meeting in > March, including a discussion of the status of the
>>> radio > advertisement project he had begun, to help educate the public
>>> and > support single payer healthcare. Others will carry that media
>>> project > to fruition.> > On May 9, the night of the fundraiser for the
>>> SJ Peace and Justice > Center with the Pete Seeger film, David was in
>>> the hospital. When the > audience sang the song Guantanamera, Annie and
>>> the Vets shared that > it's David's favorite song.> > Last week there
>>> had been first visits from a hospice nurse, a social > worker, and a
>>> home care person who was frustrated because David > wanted to shave
>>> himself instead of letting her do it for him. Nurse > friends had been
>>> very helpful with care. David was doing well in the > mornings but
>>> fading by late afternoon -- something typical of the > disease. The
>>> difference was drastic.> > Planning for a celebration of David's life
>>> has begun but no date has > been set. Call Roz Dean to offer to help
>>> (408-923-7001).
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>   



From cbrouillet at igc.org  Tue May 20 07:27:34 2008
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:27:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] David Wald announcement - please forward to
	friends
In-Reply-To: <48328246.1000109@greens.org>
References: <48320982.1060400@freeshell.org>
	<1880.38.99.84.36.1211259673.squirrel@www.greens.org>
	<48328246.1000109@greens.org>
Message-ID: <E1JySo4-0000fw-00@pop01.mail.atl.earthlink.net>

I met David Wald the year that I became an activist- in 1992, when he 
ran against Eshoo for Congress. There was a candidate's forum and he 
clearly was the best candidate- and I voted for him.  He has always 
been a tireless, committed activist, very sharp, aware, a pleasure to 
be around, insightful.  I didn't realize that he had cancer, and I'm 
very sorry that he is gone, but he certainly has always been a great 
inspiration for me.  I will miss him.

Carol

At 12:48 AM 5/20/2008, you wrote:
>I knew Dave for the last year and a half.  He was passionate about
>impeaching "The Bums".  He was one of the initial people who joined the
>South Bay Impeachment Group prior to us all forming the Silicon Valley
>Impeachment Coalition.  I feel very privileged  to have known him.
>Several weeks ago  I sat next to him at a Veterans For Peace event at
>the San Jose Peace and Justice Center, we talked, we laughed  and yes,
>he shared his cynicism along with a twinkle in his eye.  I was so happy
>to see him and to sit next to him and talk together.  I will miss him
>very much.  I feel very honored to have known him.  And yes, Cameron,  I
>too am sure he would want us to go out and celebrate his life, not mourn
>his passing.
>
>Merriam
>
>
>Drew Johnson wrote:
> > Although I only got to work with him a little I felt honored to spend the
> > time I got to with him.  He had this aura of wisdom about him that really
> > got to me.
> >
> > David was a part of the SCC Single Payer Healthcare coalition that Fred, I
> > and Jim Doyle have participated in on behalf of the GPSC. He also worked
> > on the big October 27th Peace rally that Merriam helped coordinate.
> >
> > I didn't realize it until just now, but I had contact with him re: the
> > InfoMed project probably 10 years or more ago when I donated some
> > HeartBeat Earth computer equipment.  Hopefully some of it was useful and
> > made it to Cuba to help out.
> >
> >
> > David thank you for your many contributions and may we carry on our
> > activism  inspired by the light you have shed in this world.
> >
> >
> > Drew
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 19, 2008 18:18, cls at truffula.sj.ca.us wrote:
> >
> >> David was an inspiration.  Always full of the best kind
> >> of energy.  I am sure he would want us to go out and
> >> celebrate his life, not mourn his passing.
> >> I feel richer for having known him.
> >>
> >> Cameron
> >>
> >
> > On Mon, May 19, 2008 16:13, Fred Duperrault wrote:
> >
> >> Sad news.  David Wald, the Peninsula's indomitable humanitarian passed
> >> away today.  It was a privilege and honor to have  known him.  (See
> >> below.)
> >>
> >> Fred D.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject:     [HCAC-Act] FW: David Wald announcement - please forward to
> >> friends
> >> Date:        Mon, 19 May 2008 15:34:43 -0700
> >> From:        Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
> >> Reply-To:    lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com
> >> To:  HCAC Activists <hcac-act at svpal.org>, One Care Now
> >> <onecarenow at svpal.org>
> >> References:  <a06240817c4577b75eda1@[192.168.11.2]>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For those of you who didn't know Dave he was a very special person. An
> >> engineer, a Congressional candidate, a peace activist; he touched many
> >> people's lives. He spent years sending computers to Cuba to the doctors so
> >> they could have an integrated system including travelling to Mexico to
> >> oversee their delivery. He had to fight the US Govt. continually to get
> >> them there. He met Castro. His second medical opinion was by the Cuban
> >> doctors who loved him as his scans were sent to them electronically.
> >>
> >> I loved debating politics with him. He was so knowledgeable. He continued
> >> to attend HCA meetings until recently and donated to the chapter so we
> >> could spread the word about Single Payer.
> >> I love the story here where he insisted that he shave himself!  He was one
> >> of a kind.
> >> Lynn. H.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:51:06 -0700> To: ymple at msn.com;
> >>> lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com> From: jam at batnet.com> Subject: David Wald
> >>> announcement - please forward to friends> > David Wald died at 6 a.m.
> >>> Sunday, May 18.> > His wife Joan Bazar had written that Saturday was an
> >>> especially good > day for David -- her daughter dropped off strawberries
> >>> from the > Farmers Market in Santa Clara, his two sons took him out to
> >>> the park > nearby in his wheelchair, and an InfoMed stalwart stopped by
> >>> to move > his computer to the bedroom.> > David had had a CT scan a week
> >>> ago that showed that the cancer he had > been fighting for two years had
> >>> made substantially inroads into his > liver. He had been marking
> >>> milestones for several months -- for > example, not being sure he'd make
> >>> it to his 80th birthday but doing > so. Last December he and Joan
> >>> managed to make the trip to Cuba for > him to receive a special award
> >>> for years of work helping provide > computers for the InfoMed project,
> >>> assisting with medical > information. He attended a local Health Care
> >>> for All meeting in > March, including a discussion of the status of the
> >>> radio > advertisement project he had begun, to help educate the public
> >>> and > support single payer healthcare. Others will carry that media
> >>> project > to fruition.> > On May 9, the night of the fundraiser for the
> >>> SJ Peace and Justice > Center with the Pete Seeger film, David was in
> >>> the hospital. When the > audience sang the song Guantanamera, Annie and
> >>> the Vets shared that > it's David's favorite song.> > Last week there
> >>> had been first visits from a hospice nurse, a social > worker, and a
> >>> home care person who was frustrated because David > wanted to shave
> >>> himself instead of letting her do it for him. Nurse > friends had been
> >>> very helpful with care. David was doing well in the > mornings but
> >>> fading by late afternoon -- something typical of the > disease. The
> >>> difference was drastic.> > Planning for a celebration of David's life
> >>> has begun but no date has > been set. Call Roz Dean to offer to help
> >>> (408-923-7001).
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> >
> >
>
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From eameece at california.com  Mon May 19 16:59:58 2008
From: eameece at california.com (E. Alan Meece)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:59:58 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: David Wald announcement - please forward	
	to friends
References: <48320982.1060400@freeshell.org>
	<1880.38.99.84.36.1211259673.squirrel@www.greens.org>
	<48328246.1000109@greens.org>
Message-ID: <4832147E.2B61@california.com>

I knew him somewhat for decades. He was very dedicated and passionate
for great causes and ideals. I will miss him.

Eric Meece (Eric the Green)


From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed May 21 12:43:45 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:43:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bike To Work Day (BTWD)
Message-ID: <48347B71.1040509@aceweb.com>

The Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition really does a good job on BTWD.
I've participated for years as a volunteer, but this time I did it as a 
photographer. You can see the best of my pictures at:

http://tian.greens.org/SiliconValley/BicycleCoalition/index.html

Every year it seems that BTWD gets more people riding their bicycles.
We are still a minority compared to drivers, but I'd love to see that 
change.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added bike to work day pictures from Silicon Valley.
Dave Wald died over the weekend. He will be missed around here...


From fredd at freeshell.org  Wed May 21 14:20:47 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:20:47 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  Bike To Work Day (BTWD)
Message-ID: <4834922F.3050702@freeshell.org>

Great photos, Tian!

Thanks for the peddling.

fred



The Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition really does a good job on BTWD.
I've participated for years as a volunteer, but this time I did it as a
photographer. You can see the best of my pictures at:

http://tian.greens.org/SiliconValley/BicycleCoalition/index.html

Every year it seems that BTWD gets more people riding their bicycles.
We are still a minority compared to drivers, but I'd love to see that
change.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added bike to work day pictures from Silicon Valley.
Dave Wald died over the weekend. He will be missed around here...
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From andid at cagreens.org  Wed May 21 12:01:50 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:01:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mail In Precincts
In-Reply-To: <1390.38.99.84.36.1210749354.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <4829F226.6090004@charter.net> <482A4C8F.2010800@greens.org>
	<1390.38.99.84.36.1210749354.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <FDAD9891-DF9F-4279-933A-25225AC3D0DC@cagreens.org>

I also received a vote by mail sample ballot with a vote by mail  
application which requires that I apply by 5 PM May 27, 2008,  
although my ballot informs me that I am "a permanent vote by mail  
voter."

My ballot arrived with two choices of voting:
Berryessa Community Church on Sierra Road in San Jose
Mt Olive Lutheran Church on E Calveras in Milpitas

The latter is closer, but still 5 miles from my residence.
Andrea

On May 14, 2008, at 12:15 AM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> Hmm... but since we DO have candidates in this partisan election, that
> doesn't quite fit Wes' situation.
>
>
> Green is Universal!
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 19:21, Jim Stauffer wrote:
>> I just heard a complaint from Solano county the the registrar is  
>> requiring
>> all members of minor parties who do not have candidates in a partisan
>> election to use mail-in ballots.
>>
>> I think it's a coming trend. The elections officials having been  
>> wanting
>> this for some time.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wes Rolley wrote:
>>> In this upcoming primary election, I happen to live in a "mail in
>>> precinct."  In other words, my choice is only to vote by mail.   
>>> Or get
>>> in my gas guzzling, ghg emitting auto and drive about 7 miles round
>>> trip.
>>>
>>> Questions: are there others in this same situation?  Just how  
>>> common is
>>> it this election?
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>
>
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>



From andid at cagreens.org  Wed May 21 13:08:37 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:08:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Prius Owner? FYI - Plug-In Kits Available &
	Discounted...
Message-ID: <E27C7D99-CF5D-47AB-92B4-0D51FFF44F57@cagreens.org>

Join EAA (Electric Auto Association) and get a 10% discount on your  
plug-in kit to make your Prius hybrid a part-time electric car.   
Forty miles without using gas ain't bad if you realize that most of  
us don't go more than that to get to work and back.  And it can be  
plugged into your house at night for off-hours cheeeeap electricity!

Forget Toyota and its claim that "more research is needed" before  
anyone can make a plug-in hybrid!  (There are far more than seven  
plug-in Priuses that have been running around the Bay Area for  
several years with "100+ mpg" on their sides!)  Learn the truth about  
hybrids and electric cars from the EAA engineer-members and other  
techies who know what's what.  Bay Area member Will Becket reported  
the results of a EAA member survey that showed that 8.5 million miles  
have been driven by members and their all-electrics just on  
California roads since the ZEV mandate.  EAA's newsletter (May 2008)   
also took on the erroneous recent report by USA Today that plug-in  
hybrids could cause more "deadly air pollution" than the non-plug- 
ins. (I will lend copies to interested Greens.)

Many EAA members have only a hybrid.  Some have an all-electric  
Toyota RAV-4 and many have a converted-to-electric stock car like the  
Rampage pickup truck.  Club members are good sources of info and are  
friendly to new members' questions, even from non-techie types like  
me!  The cars show up at every meeting for inspection and for  
chatting with the owners.  See www.eaaev.org for meeting locations,  
to drop and get acquainted?

If you're interested in how pricey an upgrade would be, the complete  
plug-in system for the Prius is $6,095 plus shipping.  It uses the  
well-known and longtime-tested CalCars Basic Control board.  Check  
out www.pluginsupply.com for a quick look-see.

A plug-in kit for a used Prius may be the next step I take from my  
hybrid Insight, with an eye on owning an all-electric car (soon, I  
hope).
Andrea
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed May 21 19:54:04 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:54:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Mail In Precincts
In-Reply-To: <FDAD9891-DF9F-4279-933A-25225AC3D0DC@cagreens.org>
References: <4829F226.6090004@charter.net>
	<482A4C8F.2010800@greens.org><1390.38.99.84.36.1210749354.squirrel@www.greens.org>
	<FDAD9891-DF9F-4279-933A-25225AC3D0DC@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <4834E04C.5000802@aceweb.com>

My sample ballot says I have to walk over to the trailer park across
the street and a block towards 101 from here. That's no hardship to me!

Tian

Andrea Dorey wrote:
> I also received a vote by mail sample ballot with a vote by mail  
> application which requires that I apply by 5 PM May 27, 2008,  
> although my ballot informs me that I am "a permanent vote by mail  
> voter."
> 
> My ballot arrived with two choices of voting:
> Berryessa Community Church on Sierra Road in San Jose
> Mt Olive Lutheran Church on E Calveras in Milpitas
> 
> The latter is closer, but still 5 miles from my residence.
> Andrea
> 
> On May 14, 2008, at 12:15 AM, Drew Johnson wrote:
>> Hmm... but since we DO have candidates in this partisan election, that
>> doesn't quite fit Wes' situation.
>>
>>
>> Green is Universal!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2008 19:21, Jim Stauffer wrote:
>>> I just heard a complaint from Solano county the the registrar is  
>>> requiring
>>> all members of minor parties who do not have candidates in a partisan
>>> election to use mail-in ballots.
>>>
>>> I think it's a coming trend. The elections officials having been  
>>> wanting
>>> this for some time.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes Rolley wrote:
>>>> In this upcoming primary election, I happen to live in a "mail in
>>>> precinct."  In other words, my choice is only to vote by mail.   
>>>> Or get
>>>> in my gas guzzling, ghg emitting auto and drive about 7 miles round
>>>> trip.
>>>>
>>>> Questions: are there others in this same situation?  Just how  
>>>> common is
>>>> it this election?
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From mkmusic at greens.org  Thu May 22 02:14:28 2008
From: mkmusic at greens.org (Merriam Kathaleen)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 02:14:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 27th Week of Impeachment Demonstration, Fri. 5/23,
 Lofgren's office 3pm-5pm
Message-ID: <48353974.8010401@greens.org>

Hi All,

*IMPEACH!!!
       IMPEACH!!!
             IMPEACH!!!!
                    IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS!!!!

That's what we want and that is what we are demanding of Rep. Zoe Lofgren.

We need you to show ZOE we mean business and we won't go away until we 
get the hearings.

*This Friday is our 27th continuous week of demonstrating in front of 
Rep. Zoe Lofgren's office. 

Please join us this Friday, 5/23 in front of Lofgren's office from 
3:00pm - 5:00pm.  We want a large presence demanding she "*DO HER 
JOB*."  Zoe's office is at 635 N. 1st St., San Jose. (Between Taylor & 
Jackson St. across from the IHOP restaurant/Light Rail stop is corner of 
Jackson St on 1st St.)  We want to be loud and proud for Impeachment 
hearings for Cheney. 

*Randy will be there dressed as Bush and Ed will be there dressed as 
Cheney.  The people driving by love seeing these two characters.* 


Be Zoe's conscience!!!! We are her constant reminder to hold Cheney 
accountable and uphold our Constitution by HOLDING IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS!!

Our presence in front of Zoe's office gives each car that honks the 
opportunity to express their feelings about impeachment.  If we weren't 
there these people would probably not
have this opportunity to express themselves.

SEE YOU THERE.

Thanks,
Merriam
Silicon Valley Impeachment Coalition
mkmusic03 at aol.com
408-482-6032 (Cell)
svimpeach.org





*
*



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 08:29:26 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSC General Meeting Redesign
Message-ID: <1068.38.99.84.36.1211470166.squirrel@www.greens.org>

"Greens should focus on organizing their local meetings around activities.
For example: Bylaws meetings are a good way to kill your organization and
should be worked on in committee not at General Meetings."

   Brent McMillan, Political Director, GP-US

Took the words right out of my mouth!  We need to cease and desist in
using our General Meeting as some kind of Committee of the Whole.  Until
we do I will continue to vehemently steer people away from our General
Meeting (which I consider a form of cruel and unusual punishment) and
towards their Local meetings that we are developing now.  We can hold
committee meetings for our ongoing admin needs (like Outreach (incl.
Strategy, Tabling),  Inreach (incl Fundraising), Media (Incl. Newsletter,
Resolutions such as Gerry's Impeachment resolution)  but major word
smithing documents on the fly at our General Meetings is something no
Green should be asked to go through.

Jim Doyle, Merriam and I have been discussing for months how we'd likew to
reorg the General Meetings so that the County Council meetings and the
General Meetings do not end up essentially beibg carbon copies of one
another.  It boils down to trying something closer to what San Mateo does
-- their Count Council Meeting is essentially their business meeting
(although again the Co Council Meeting shouldn't devolve into a control
freak's dream and everyone else'e nightmare of another Committee of the
Whole) and their General Meeting they have video and discussion of general
interest.  We want to get conversation flowing on redesign of our meetings
to be more stimulating and FUN!


Green is Division of Labor!

Drew



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brent McMillan <brent at gp.org>
Date: May 21, 2008 2:24 PM
Subject: [usgp-dx] 2005 Green Party National Survey Results - Section B:
Internal/Membership/Financial
To: national comm affairs <natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org>

Dear NC Delegate:

Some you were probably not at the meeting in Tulsa when we presented the
2005 Green Party National Survey Results. We never made the survey results
public. I think that there is value though in going back and taking a look
at it now and again. Following is the section involving
Internal/Membership/Financial. It's good to see that we have accomplished
some of the recommendations listed.

In service:

Brent McMillan, Political Director
Green Party of the United States
202-319-7191
brent at gp.org

Section B: Internal/Membership/Financial

1. Results Summary

Strengths:

Survey respondents clearly indicated that they felt that the strengths of
the Green Party in terms of its internal policies and structure is that
first and foremost we are based on the 10 Key Values (mean 8.5) and
secondly that we do not take corporate contributions (mean 8.2). Greens
openness to people of all political backgrounds was also considered
important (mean 7.3).

Greens said that the publicity/outreach methods that they have found to be
most effective for gaining energy, members and/or political power at the
local level was Word-of-Mouth (63%) closely followed by Running Candidates
for Office (62%). Listed as the three most ineffective methods were, radio
and TV ads (5%), intentional spoiling (8%) and working with Republicans
and Democrats (9%).

Weaknesses:

Survey respondents said that the two biggest things standing in the way of
the growth of the party are that there are too many destructive
critics/infighting (mean 7.5%) and that there are not enough people to
fill the existing committees to make them effective (mean 7.5%).

When asked, "What changes (if any) do you think need to be made to the
national Party's administrative structure, policies, or procedures?"
survey respondents put the need for paid full-time fundraising staff (58%)
as a top priority. Second to that was paid permanent staff (53%). Also of
note was the need for more spokespeople (51%) and to institutionalize that
fact that we do not accept corporate contributions into our bylaws (48%).

Opportunities:

When asked, "Where should national Green Party funds be focused?" Campaign
aid for state and local races was the top priority (mean 8.1). Second to
that was the need for paid permanent staff (mean 7.6). This was also
reinforced in another question. See Weaknesses. There is also significant
support for helping fund ballot access efforts and legal fights associated
with ballot access efforts (mean 7.5). Building a reserve for national
political campaigns garnered the least support (mean 5.5).

Greens would like to see more participants at their local meetings (53%).
They would also like to see less talk and more action (52%).

Threats:

Greens felt that the biggest obstacles to recruiting new members were
voter apathy and a belief that politics is 'dirty' (mean 7.2). 'Lack of
advertising or promotional funds' (mean 6.9) closely followed by 'no
dedicated local committee/effort towards this purpose' (mean 6.7) were
also indicated.

Goals:

Overwhelmingly Greens agreed that setting a goal of Viable, affiliated
parties in all 50 states and all territories by the year 2020 should be
the main membership goal of the national party (mean 9.3).

Greens agreed that by the year 2020 they would like to see a
fundraising/budget at $10 million level per year (mean 8.1). They also
indicated that Full time fundraisers should be hired (mean 7.7).

Priorities:

National:

Clearly, Greens would like to see more collaboration between the national
party and their state/local party (79%). 19% responded the "same" and 2%
responded "less."

The number one focus that survey respondents wanted to see national focus
on is ballot access for state parties (mean 8.3). Fundraising (mean 7.8),
Media Support and Training (mean 7.8) were also identified as high
priorities. Platform Development had the least support of the options
(mean 5.3).

State and Local:

Survey respondents want to see their state and local parties focus on
Candidate recruitment/selection (mean 8.6) closely followed by 'Membership
Drive' (mean 8.5). Rated as least important of the options listed was
'Structural Re-organization' (mean 5.1).

2. Recommendations

We have to become more effective at dealing with conflict within the
party. There has been much emphasis in the Green Party on Facilitation but
little to none on Mediation. We need to build Mediation skills in the
Party.

We need to continue to work to build a 'big tent.' At the national level
we need to work to make this party welcoming to folks of different
political backgrounds. We need to be careful to not alienate future
converts. We need to head off efforts by sectarian groups within the party
that seek to dominate or drive out others. We need to emphasize the use of
IRV and Proportional Representation in our own internal elections and
avoid winner take all politics. Proxies should remain limited at best.

We need to recognize the behavior of "Dominance" and confront it. There
are many forms of dominance. One form is where one individual always has
to have their say. They do so at the exclusion of others. Another form of
this is when one individual says the same thing over and over again.
Everyone in the party has a responsibility to stand up to bullies and
support others who do. They count on silence and take it as consent. The
group as a whole has to make it clear that we don't tolerate that
behavior.

Another thing which undermines Unity is Gossip. We all know how
destructive this can be. We just need to be reminded of it. Character
assassination is a form of violence and should not be tolerated.

We need to confront bullies in the party and deal effectively with their
behavior. We need to confront 'power politickers' and 'destructive
critics' and steer them into more productive behavior. We need to clearly
distinguish between dissent and bullying.

We need to encourage the development of Membership Committees and
Coordinators. Greens need to set goals for recruitment and develop a plan
for meeting these goals. Then they need to take action. The Green Party of
Maine has done an outstanding job in this regard. We need to study what
they have done and spread the message of what has been the key to their
success.

We need to make committee work more attractive to volunteers. We need to
do a better job of recruiting committee members. If you've been around for
awhile in the party, who are you mentoring?

At the national level we need to continue to emphasize the development of
our Fundraising Program. We need to get back to where we have a full-time
Fundraising Director. Fundraising needs to be a team effort. Green
fundraising is different. We need to identify how it is different from
other types of fundraising. We need to better document what works and what
doesn't work and communicate that through out the organization. If we are
to win at the Federal Level we will have to have a fundraising revolution
in this party. After re-establishing this position there is support for
more outreach.

In the BRPP long range plan the fourth national director envisioned is a
Field Director. We need to establish an Outreach Committee at the national
level. The Field Director would be the staff person to the Outreach
Committee. We need to develop materials to assist local organizing and
development.

Ballot Access needs to be made into a standing committee of the national
party. The national party needs to take on a leadership role on ballot
access and not 'just leave it up to the states.' Ballot Access should have
a line item in the budget.

Greens should focus on organizing their local meetings around activities.
For example: Bylaws meetings are a good way to kill your organization and
should be worked on in committee not at General Meetings.

# # # #




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 09:05:46 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:05:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
Message-ID: <1189.38.99.84.36.1211472346.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Good points Caroline.  Of course conditions vary across the country and
while we in 'Silicon Valley' may not be typical, its true that multiple
approaches are needed.  The national Media Committee has more print people
than other media forms (the multimedia folks have a working group
themselves) so one can understand why there might be a bias in that
direction.  Nevertheless, as traditional as it sounds 'Letters to the
Editor' remain a very powerful tool in getting our word out -- Did you
realize that LttE are picked up by Google News searches and thereby become
part of the 'buzz' for getting media attention? Also as we get our letter
writing campaigns rolling we can certainly follow up with a call-in
campaign and other media outreach efforts.

So who else is working on the '100 Letters by May 31st' Campaign???


Green is Multi!

Drew Johnson
GPCA delegate


On Tue, May 20, 2008 09:12, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> I have just been rereading the Media Group's challenge. While I think it's
> a good idea, I must confess that I think we will be missing a lot of
> people that way. For example, I don't think that I know anyone under forty
> who reads the Letters to the Editor. And I'm a little surprised that the
> "Media Group" would concentrate on print media. KQED has a call-in program
> at 9:00 am, and there are, or course, many call-in shows on less Green
> friendly stations, for the more adventurous. And then there are chat
> rooms. I don't go to any. but I know they are there. Shouldn't we be going
> where the people are?
>   Caroline
>



---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [GP-US a/v] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
From:    "Scott McLarty" <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
Date:    Thu, May 15, 2008 11:27
To:      media-states at lists.gp-us.org
         media-a-v at lists.gp-us.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

One hundred Green letters by May 31!

(Please forward this as widely as possible to
Green Party members & friends)

The Media Committee challenges Greens all over to
put the Green Party and our candidates on the
media map!

Our goal is to see ONE HUNDRED letters to the
editor sent by Greens to newspapers throughout
the US by the end of May.  If enough letters get
sent, a good percentage will get published, and
hundreds of thousands -- maybe millions -- of
voters will read about the Green Party and Green
candidates.

If you'd rather submit an op-ed column or an
article to the newspaper of your choice, that's
fine too!

What should you write about?  It's up to you:

? Your favorite Green candidate for President of
the United States

? Your favorite Green candidate for the US House,
US Senate, state legislature, county
commissioner, city council, mayor, school board,
or any other office

? The upcoming Green National Convention in
Chicago, July 10-13

? The Green Party's demand for immediate
withdrawal of troops from Iraq

? The Green Party's demand for real action on
global warming, rather than ineffective
corporate-friendly half measures

? The Green Party's support for single-payer
national health care

? Another Green Party position that you consider
important

? Anything else you can think of about the Green
Party or Green candidates!


Here are some suggestions:

? Keep your letter concise & focused.  Five or
six sentences is good, but in most larger
newspapers, anything longer is in danger of
getting edited or immediately rejected.  In many
local papers, they'll be happy to print a longer
letter.  Op-eds & articles can be longer, too.
Check the newspaper's guidelines on submissions.

? Use the word GREEN at least once, preferably a
few times, so it's clear that your favorite
candidate is a Green candidate, or the position
you're espousing is a Green position.  Mention
that you're a Green Party member and try to work
in the web site of the national party (gp.org) or
your local or state party.

? If you can, use a personal angle.  For example,
if a family member can't pay a medical bill or is
on the front line in Iraq, it might be worth
mentioning in a letter to the editor about the
Green Party's position on health care or the war.

? Respond to an already published article or
column.  For example, a recent column in The
Progressive by Adolph Reed (May 2008 issue,
http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508) on why
he isn't supporting Barack Obama deserves a Green
reply: why doesn't Mr. Reed mention the Green
presidential candidates?

? Read "How to Place an Op-Ed or Letter in the
Top 100 US Newspapers"
http://theopedproject.org/content/view/8/8/

Start writing letters!  If you get published, let
us know -- and post it on Green Party discussion
lists too, so other Greens can read it too.

Scott McLarty
mclarty at greens.org
Media Committee
Green Party of the United States
http://www.gp.org




From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu May 22 09:15:47 2008
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:15:47 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My Op-Ed Posted on The Black Commentator
Message-ID: <8CA8A3E3A775E81-1418-1769@webmail-ne15.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends,

The Black Commentator posted my op-ed on?Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" today.? This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles Times web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting about the double-talking antics of?Los Angeles' race-obsessed intelligentsia.?

Please note that they *DID* print my pitch for the Green Party in the last paragraph.

Alex Walker
Los Angeles Greens?

=? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =? =
?
Posted on The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008

Dissent: No More Race Talk 

By Alex Walker


This election is not about race.


I repeat, this election is not about race.


This election is about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.


On the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, high-faluting, so-called-liberal New York Times published an editorial titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright.?

The NYT declared "this country needs a healthy and open discussion of race."


My hometown Los Angeles Times followed suit with "The Wright Choice" - observing that the issue of race:

... which invokes fundamental questions about the role of government and the distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should be discussing...

No!


Candidates should be discussing the war, healthcare, schools and the catastrophic failure of Bush's so-called conservatism. . .


Our race-obsessed Los Angeles intellectuals were delighted by Obama's failure.


Anthony Asadullah Samad, PhD (with a name like that and a PhD he must be an expert), declared "Race Trumps Change" 
Race is America and America is (and always has been about) Race. While race (and gender) has tried to be subordinated to the politics of hope and change - even to the extent of this Presidential campaign was (is) being called, 'the age of post-racial politics,' ... race is poised to trump change, in hopes that things don't change - but remain the same.? 

Jasmyne Cannick, nationally famous LGBT activist wrote in The Los Angeles Sentinel that "The White Man's Burden is Not the Black Man's Responsibility":

Well I guess on the bright side of things, there should be no more questions about whether or not Senator Barack Obama is a Christian... It seems that it's not enough that we've adopted their religion and most Blacks are worshiping to their White blue-eyed Jesus, but now they want to dictate the message that we receive as well. And in the process, they've backed Obama against a wall forcing him to publicly distance himself from his pastor in order to prove that he's not an angry Black man in disguise...

Brothers and sisters outside Los Angeles do not know this, but Ms. Cannick's "day job" is in the office of California State Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally. Mr. Dymally is supporting Hillary Clinton for president. Ms. Cannick is also a big fan of Los Angeles Congresswoman Laura Richardson. Ms. Richardson is not only supporting Hillary, but went out of her way to campaign against Barack in Ohio.


Of course, citizens have every right to support Sen. Clinton - on real issues. After all, there is not that much difference between Clinton and Obama. However, these race games are disgusting. . .


One reason I left the Democrats and joined the California Green Party was because I am one African American who is sick and tired of the race games of the old politics. If Barack sincerely wants to transform U.S. politics, it's already clear Democratic and Republican politicians, preachers, and intellectuals won't let him. The Boston Globe was more honest than most in their editorial: "The Illinois senator has made a career ... of promoting common understanding. ... To see those efforts bogging down in the same old swamp is just depressing."



URL: http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html 


Race is America and America is (and always has been about) Race. While race (and gender) has tried to be subordinated to the politics of hope and change - even to the extent of this Presidential campaign was (is) being called, 'the age of post-racial politics,' ... race is poised to trump change, in hopes that things don't change - but remain the same.? 

Jasmyne Cannick, nationally famous LGBT activist wrote in The Los Angeles Sentinel that "The White Man's Burden is Not the Black Man's Responsibility":

Well I guess on the bright side of things, there should be no more questions about whether or not Senator Barack Obama is a Christian... It seems that it's not enough that we've adopted their religion and most Blacks are worshiping to their White blue-eyed Jesus, but now they want to dictate the message that we receive as well. And in the process, they've backed Obama against a wall forcing him to publicly distance himself from his pastor in order to prove that he's not an angry Black man in disguise...

Brothers and sisters outside Los Angeles do not know this, but Ms. Cannick's "day job" is in the office of California State Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally. Mr. Dymally is supporting Hillary Clinton for president. Ms. Cannick is also a big fan of Los Angeles Congresswoman Laura Richardson. Ms. Richardson is not only supporting Hillary, but went out of her way to campaign against Barack in Ohio.


Of course, citizens have every right to support Sen. Clinton - on real issues. After all, there is not that much difference between Clinton and Obama. However, these race games are disgusting. . .


One reason I left the Democrats and joined the California Green Party was because I am one African American who is sick and tired of the race games of the old politics. If Barack sincerely wants to transform U.S. politics, it's already clear Democratic and Republican politicians, preachers, and intellectuals won't let him. The Boston Globe was more honest than most in their editorial: "The Illinois senator has made a career ... of promoting common understanding. ... To see those efforts bogging down in the same old swamp is just depressing."



URL: http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html 
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Thu May 22 10:07:04 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:07:04 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Warner's Recommendation for Superior Court Judge
	-- Jesus Valencia
Message-ID: <ca2.2fbc07cc.35670238@aol.com>

Being a lawyer in this county, I usually get asked about  candidates for 
judge on the election ballot.  My first criteria, generally,  is there are more 
than enough ex-district attorneys on the bench already.   The next criteria is 
breadth of experience (i.e., both criminal and  civil).  I reccomend Jesus 
Valencia for Superior Court Judge on the June  3rd ballot.  Being a commissioner 
(lower level judicial officer who does a  lot of "smaller" and "overflow" kinds 
of procedural hearings -- although can be  a "temporary judge" by agreement 
of all parties) doesn't always mean that  candidate is better than someone from 
private practice, but in this case I think  it does.  
 
FWIW, I'm also supporting Richard Hobbs for County Board of  Supervisors.
 
Remember to Vote:  NO on 98!!!  YES on  99!!!
 
Warner      



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From civillib at comcast.net  Thu May 22 09:23:38 2008
From: civillib at comcast.net (civillib at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:23:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] My Op-Ed Posted on The Black
	Commentator
In-Reply-To: <8CA8A3E3A775E81-1418-1769@webmail-ne15.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CA8A3E3A775E81-1418-1769@webmail-ne15.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <48359E0A.4060005@comcast.net>

Alex,

Good stuff. Would you mind if I took info from here and wound it into a release? We could even pump 
up where the op-ed is running.

Thanks,

Cres

alexcathy at aol.com wrote:
> Dear Green Friends,
> 
> The Black Commentator posted my op-ed on Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" 
> today.  This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles 
> Times web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting about 
> the double-talking antics of Los Angeles' race-obsessed intelligentsia. 
> 
> Please note that they *DID* print my pitch for the Green Party in the 
> last paragraph.
> 
> Alex Walker
> Los Angeles Greens 
> 
> =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =  =
> * *
> *Posted on The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008*
> *Dissent: No More Race Talk* 
> <http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html>* 
> *
> *By Alex Walker*
> 
> This election is not about race.
> 
> I repeat, this election is not about race.
> 
> This election is about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.
> 
> On the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, 
> high-faluting, so-called-liberal /New York Times/ published an editorial 
> titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright 
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin>.?
> The /NYT/ declared "this country needs a healthy and open discussion of 
> race."
> 
> My hometown /Los Angeles Times/ followed suit with "The Wright Choice 
> <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-obama1-2008may01%2C0%2C1603861.story>" 
> - observing that the issue of race:
> 
>     ... which invokes fundamental questions about the role of government
>     and the distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should
>     be discussing...
> 
> No!
> 
> Candidates should be discussing the war, healthcare, schools and the 
> catastrophic failure of Bush's so-called conservatism. . .
> 
> Our race-obsessed Los Angeles intellectuals were delighted by Obama's 
> failure.
> 
> Anthony Asadullah Samad, PhD (with a name like that and a PhD he must be 
> an expert), declared "Race Trumps Change 
> <http://www.blackcommentator.com/269/269_btl_race_trumps_change.html>"
> 
>     Race is America and America is (and always has been about) Race.
>     While race (and gender) has tried to be subordinated to the politics
>     of hope and change - even to the extent of this Presidential
>     campaign was (is) being called, 'the age of post-racial politics,'
>     ... race is poised to trump change, in hopes that things don't
>     change - but remain the same.? 
> 
> Jasmyne Cannick, nationally famous LGBT activist wrote in /The Los 
> Angeles Sentinel/ that "The White Man's Burden is Not the Black Man's 
> Responsibility 
> <http://www.lasentinel.net/The-White-Mans-Burden-is-Not-the-Black-Mans-Responsibility.html>":
> 
>     Well I guess on the bright side of things, there should be no more
>     questions about whether or not Senator Barack Obama is a
>     Christian... It seems that it's not enough that we've adopted their
>     religion and most Blacks are worshiping to their White blue-eyed
>     Jesus, but now they want to dictate the message that we receive as
>     well. And in the process, they've backed Obama against a wall
>     forcing him to publicly distance himself from his pastor in order to
>     prove that he's not an angry Black man in disguise...
> 
> Brothers and sisters outside Los Angeles do not know this, but Ms. 
> Cannick's "day job" is in the office of California State Assemblyman 
> Mervyn Dymally. Mr. Dymally is supporting Hillary Clinton for president. 
> Ms. Cannick is also a big fan of Los Angeles Congresswoman Laura 
> Richardson. Ms. Richardson is not only supporting Hillary, but went out 
> of her way to campaign against Barack in Ohio.
> 
> Of course, citizens have every right to support Sen. Clinton - on real 
> issues. After all, there is not that much difference between Clinton and 
> Obama. However, these race games are disgusting. . .
> 
> One reason I left the Democrats and joined the California Green Party 
> was because I am one African American who is sick and tired of the race 
> games of the old politics. If Barack sincerely wants to transform U.S. 
> politics, it's already clear Democratic and Republican politicians, 
> preachers, and intellectuals won't let him. /The Boston Globe/ was more 
> honest than most in their editorial: "The Illinois senator has made a 
> career ... of promoting common understanding. ... To see those efforts 
> bogging down in the same old swamp is just depressing."
> 
> URL: 
> http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Stay informed, get connected and more with AOL on your phone 
> <http://mobile.aol.com/productOverview.jsp?productOverview=aol-mobile-overview&?ncid=aolmbd00030000000139>. 
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> 
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From brezenoff at hotmail.com  Thu May 22 10:19:04 2008
From: brezenoff at hotmail.com (daniel brezenoff)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:19:04 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] laura's house
In-Reply-To: <48359E0A.4060005@comcast.net>
References: <8CA8A3E3A775E81-1418-1769@webmail-ne15.sysops.aol.com>
	<48359E0A.4060005@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY126-W3B8549AC8204472C4CCB0A4C60@phx.gbl>


http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/staff-infection/briefing/congresswoman-laura-richardsons-house-gets-foreclosed-on/
  
Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814310 422 2211"It always seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela
 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:23:38 -0700> From: civillib at comcast.net> To: alexcathy at aol.com> CC: gpbc at googlegroups.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org; gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] My Op-Ed Posted on The Black Commentator> > Alex,> > Good stuff. Would you mind if I took info from here and wound it into a release? We could even pump > up where the op-ed is running.> > Thanks,> > Cres> > alexcathy at aol.com wrote:> > Dear Green Friends,> > > > The Black Commentator posted my op-ed on Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" > > today. This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles > > Times web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting about > > the double-talking antics of Los Angeles' race-obsessed intelligentsia. > > > > Please note that they *DID* print my pitch for the Green Party in the > > last paragraph.> > > > Alex Walker> > Los Angeles Greens > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = => > * *> > *Posted on The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008*> > *Dissent: No More Race Talk* > > <http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html>* > > *> > *By Alex Walker*> > > > This election is not about race.> > > > I repeat, this election is not about race.> > > > This election is about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.> > > > On the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, > > high-faluting, so-called-liberal /New York Times/ published an editorial > > titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin>.?> > The /NYT/ declared "this country needs a healthy and open discussion of > > race."> > > > My hometown /Los Angeles Times/ followed suit with "The Wright Choice > > <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-obama1-2008may01%2C0%2C1603861.story>" > > - observing that the issue of race:> > > > ... which invokes fundamental questions about the role of government> > and the distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should> > be discussing...> > > > No!> > > > Candidates should be discussing the war, healthcare, schools and the > > catastrophic failure of Bush's so-called conservatism. . .> > > > Our race-obsessed Los Angeles intellectuals were delighted by Obama's > > failure.> > > > Anthony Asadullah Samad, PhD (with a name like that and a PhD he must be > > an expert), declared "Race Trumps Change > > <http://www.blackcommentator.com/269/269_btl_race_trumps_change.html>"> > > > Race is America and America is (and always has been about) Race.> > While race (and gender) has tried to be subordinated to the politics> > of hope and change - even to the extent of this Presidential> > campaign was (is) being called, 'the age of post-racial politics,'> > ... race is poised to trump change, in hopes that things don't> > change - but remain the same.? > > > > Jasmyne Cannick, nationally famous LGBT activist wrote in /The Los > > Angeles Sentinel/ that "The White Man's Burden is Not the Black Man's > > Responsibility > > <http://www.lasentinel.net/The-White-Mans-Burden-is-Not-the-Black-Mans-Responsibility.html>":> > > > Well I guess on the bright side of things, there should be no more> > questions about whether or not Senator Barack Obama is a> > Christian... It seems that it's not enough that we've adopted their> > religion and most Blacks are worshiping to their White blue-eyed> > Jesus, but now they want to dictate the message that we receive as> > well. And in the process, they've backed Obama against a wall> > forcing him to publicly distance himself from his pastor in order to> > prove that he's not an angry Black man in disguise...> > > > Brothers and sisters outside Los Angeles do not know this, but Ms. > > Cannick's "day job" is in the office of California State Assemblyman > > Mervyn Dymally. Mr. Dymally is supporting Hillary Clinton for president. > > Ms. Cannick is also a big fan of Los Angeles Congresswoman Laura > > Richardson. Ms. Richardson is not only supporting Hillary, but went out > > of her way to campaign against Barack in Ohio.> > > > Of course, citizens have every right to support Sen. Clinton - on real > > issues. After all, there is not that much difference between Clinton and > > Obama. However, these race games are disgusting. . .> > > > One reason I left the Democrats and joined the California Green Party > > was because I am one African American who is sick and tired of the race > > games of the old politics. If Barack sincerely wants to transform U.S. > > politics, it's already clear Democratic and Republican politicians, > > preachers, and intellectuals won't let him. /The Boston Globe/ was more > > honest than most in their editorial: "The Illinois senator has made a > > career ... of promoting common understanding. ... To see those efforts > > bogging down in the same old swamp is just depressing."> > > > URL: > > http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Stay informed, get connected and more with AOL on your phone > > <http://mobile.aol.com/productOverview.jsp?productOverview=aol-mobile-overview&?ncid=aolmbd00030000000139>. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > _______________________________________________> > GPCA-MediaWG mailing list> > GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org> > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg> _______________________________________________> GPCA-MediaWG mailing list> GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
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From eameece at california.com  Wed May 21 22:31:07 2008
From: eameece at california.com (E. Alan Meece)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 22:31:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Warner's Recommendation for Superior Court
	Judge		-- Jesus Valencia
References: <ca2.2fbc07cc.35670238@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4835051B.3980@california.com>

I concur on these recommendations (although I'm not familiar with the
supervisor race).

Eric Meece 
(Eric the Green; as opposed to Eric the Red)

WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> Being a lawyer in this county, I usually get asked about candidates
> for judge on the election ballot.  My first criteria, generally, is
> there are more than enough ex-district attorneys on the bench
> already.  The next criteria is breadth of experience (i.e., both
> criminal and civil).  I reccomend Jesus Valencia for Superior Court
> Judge on the June 3rd ballot.  Being a commissioner (lower level
> judicial officer who does a lot of "smaller" and "overflow" kinds of
> procedural hearings -- although can be a "temporary judge" by
> agreement of all parties) doesn't always mean that candidate is better
> than someone from private practice, but in this case I think it
> does.
> 
> FWIW, I'm also supporting Richard Hobbs for County Board of
> Supervisors.
> 
> Remember to Vote:  NO on 98!!!  YES on 99!!!
> 
> Warner
>


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 12:33:24 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:33:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Zirin: What I want to Ask Mary Tillman
Message-ID: <1376.153.18.21.146.1211484804.squirrel@greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Zirin: What I want to Ask Mary Tillman
From:    "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
Date:    Thu, May 22, 2008 12:30
To:      natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.edgeofsports.com/2008-05-22-346/index.html

What I want to Ask Mary Tillman

By Dave Zirin

THIS FRIDAY, I will have the privilege to interview Mary Tillman, the
mother of the late Pat Tillman: former NFL player turned Army Ranger,
turned casualty of a criminal war.

Mary Tillman has written a book along with Narda Zacchino called Boots on
the Ground by Dusk: My Tribute to Pat Tillman. It's a heart-ripping
account of one family's lonely search for justice, and how, even aided by
public outcry and heavy hitters in Congress, the truth about what actually
happened to Mary's son remains at arm's length.

There are, after four years, six investigations and two congressional
hearings, still a host of unanswered questions about how Pat was killed.
Boots on the Ground is yet another attempt by Mary Tillman and her very
private family to force the spotlight upon his case--and to their
discomfort, put the spotlight on themselves.

Mary Tillman and the Tillman family are a very true reflection about where
we are as a country and where we are as a people desperate to end this
war. They are furious and disillusioned, like so many of us. They are also
isolated and dislocated from the kind of movement that could bring the
troops home...like so many of us.

I want to ask Mary Tillman about all of this. I also want to ask Mary
Tillman why she believes this government chose to smother Tillman's death
in propaganda and how the story could have careened so recklessly from
killed in action to a friendly-fire death, shot at long range in the
chest, to the truth--bullets at close range in the forehead. I want to ask
her what she thinks of a president who, armed with the facts, would lie
over Pat's dead body. I want to know if she believes George W. Bush
belongs in prison.

But I also want to ask Mary Tillman about the person her son was, and the
person her son was becoming: the Pat Tillman moving against the war in
Iraq; the Pat Tillman who was a voracious reader, turning his attention to
critics of empire like Noam Chomsky; the Pat Tillman whose journal and
personal effects were burned and destroyed immediately following his
death.

This is a Pat Tillman who deserves to be heard.

And I also feel a need to ask Mary Tillman about their strategies seeking
justice. The Tillmans have taken great pains to pursue the truth alone,
not enlisting organizations like Iraq Veterans Against War or United for
Peace and Justice. They have relied on people like Gen. Wesley Clark or
Sen. John McCain (who spoke at Pat's funeral) to be vigilant on their
behalf. I want to ask Mary Tillman if she fears that John McCain would not
be an honest truth seeker given his unconditional support for the war. I
want to ask her what her other son Kevin, who enlisted in the Army Rangers
alongside Pat, thinks of Senator McCain.

Remember, it was before the 2006 mid-term elections that Kevin released a
scathing statement called "After Pat's Birthday," which read in part,

"Somehow those afraid to fight an illegal invasion decades ago are allowed
to send soldiers to die for an illegal invasion they started.

Somehow faking character, virtue and strength is tolerated.

Somehow profiting from tragedy and horror is tolerated.

Somehow the death of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people is
tolerated.

Somehow subversion of the Bill of Rights and The Constitution is tolerated.

Somehow suspension of Habeas Corpus is supposed to keep this country safe.

Somehow torture is tolerated.

Somehow lying is tolerated.

Somehow reason is being discarded for faith, dogma, and nonsense.

Somehow American leadership managed to create a more dangerous world.

Somehow a narrative is more important than reality.

Somehow America has become a country that projects everything that it is
not and condemns everything that it is. Somehow the most reasonable,
trusted and respected country in the world has become one of the most
irrational, belligerent, feared, and distrusted countries in the world.

Somehow being politically informed, diligent, and skeptical has been
replaced by apathy through active ignorance. Somehow the same incompetent,
narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous, malicious criminals are still in charge
of this country.

Somehow this is tolerated."

The Tillman family has been transformed by tragedy. They are like so many
people in this country that saw their trust in an administration abused,
and their loved ones sacrificed by "narcissistic, virtueless, vacuous,
malicious criminals." I want to ask Mary Tillman about how you even begin
to rebuild yourself, your family and your sense of self when it all gets
ripped away. And at long last, I want to ask her, as a fellow parent,
where in the world she gets the strength.

[Dave Zirin is the author of "Welcome to the Terrordome:" (Haymarket). You
can receive his column Edge of Sports, every week by emailing
dave at edgeofsports.com Contact him at edgeofsports at gmail.com. Comment on
this article at www.edgeofsports.com]





From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 13:23:51 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:23:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] One hundred Green letters by
	May 31!]
Message-ID: <1601.153.18.21.146.1211487831.squirrel@greens.org>

Caroline, this is the response from the GPCA's Press Secretary...

Green is Connection!

Drew

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
From:    "Crescenzo Vellucci" <civillib at cwnet.com>
Date:    Thu, May 22, 2008 09:50
To:      "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
Cc:      gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

In short, most people get most of their news and information from
television - it's why you see virtually all political advertising done
there NOT in newspapers, and very little on radio. And, the letters to the
editor is the LEAST read part of the paper.

That said, it's better than nothing.

As a PR guy I focus on all media, but when I get 3-5 cameras out I KNOW -
as Caroline suggests - I've reached "the people." That's my goal as a
progressive spin doctor.

So if people want to do the letter thing, great. As I said, even though
I'm a former daily newspaper reporter and editor, I recognize what's been
obvious for a decade or more....newspapers are dead, and people - for
better or worse (the latter probably) - we need to reach voters, and
voters get
info from television. Sigh.

Cres

P.S. I send GPCA releases to radio, TV and print. And I fax, not just
email, because  virtually all media outlets still prefer faxes.

Drew Johnson wrote:
> Good points Caroline.  Of course conditions vary across the country and
> while we in 'Silicon Valley' may not be typical, its true that multiple
> approaches are needed.  The national Media Committee has more print people
> than other media forms (the multimedia folks have a working group
> themselves) so one can understand why there might be a bias in that
> direction.  Nevertheless, as traditional as it sounds 'Letters to the
> Editor' remain a very powerful tool in getting our word out -- Did you
> realize that LttE are picked up by Google News searches and thereby become
> part of the 'buzz' for getting media attention? Also as we get our letter
> writing campaigns rolling we can certainly follow up with a call-in
> campaign and other media outreach efforts.
>
> So who else is working on the '100 Letters by May 31st' Campaign???
>
>
> Green is Multi!
>
> Drew Johnson
> GPCA delegate
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 09:12, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>> I have just been rereading the Media Group's challenge. While I think it's
>> a good idea, I must confess that I think we will be missing a lot of
>> people that way. For example, I don't think that I know anyone under forty
>> who reads the Letters to the Editor. And I'm a little surprised that the
>> "Media Group" would concentrate on print media. KQED has a call-in program
>> at 9:00 am, and there are, or course, many call-in shows on less Green
>> friendly stations, for the more adventurous. And then there are chat
>> rooms. I don't go to any. but I know they are there. Shouldn't we be going
>> where the people are?
>>   Caroline
>>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: [GP-US a/v] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
> From:    "Scott McLarty" <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
> Date:    Thu, May 15, 2008 11:27
> To:      media-states at lists.gp-us.org
>          media-a-v at lists.gp-us.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> One hundred Green letters by May 31!
>
> (Please forward this as widely as possible to
> Green Party members & friends)
>
> The Media Committee challenges Greens all over to
> put the Green Party and our candidates on the
> media map!
>
> Our goal is to see ONE HUNDRED letters to the
> editor sent by Greens to newspapers throughout
> the US by the end of May.  If enough letters get
> sent, a good percentage will get published, and
> hundreds of thousands -- maybe millions -- of
> voters will read about the Green Party and Green
> candidates.
>
> If you'd rather submit an op-ed column or an
> article to the newspaper of your choice, that's
> fine too!
>
> What should you write about?  It's up to you:
>
> ? Your favorite Green candidate for President of
> the United States
>
> ? Your favorite Green candidate for the US House,
> US Senate, state legislature, county
> commissioner, city council, mayor, school board,
> or any other office
>
> ? The upcoming Green National Convention in
> Chicago, July 10-13
>
> ? The Green Party's demand for immediate
> withdrawal of troops from Iraq
>
> ? The Green Party's demand for real action on
> global warming, rather than ineffective
> corporate-friendly half measures
>
> ? The Green Party's support for single-payer
> national health care
>
> ? Another Green Party position that you consider
> important
>
> ? Anything else you can think of about the Green
> Party or Green candidates!
>
>
> Here are some suggestions:
>
> ? Keep your letter concise & focused.  Five or
> six sentences is good, but in most larger
> newspapers, anything longer is in danger of
> getting edited or immediately rejected.  In many
> local papers, they'll be happy to print a longer
> letter.  Op-eds & articles can be longer, too.
> Check the newspaper's guidelines on submissions.
>
> ? Use the word GREEN at least once, preferably a
> few times, so it's clear that your favorite
> candidate is a Green candidate, or the position
> you're espousing is a Green position.  Mention
> that you're a Green Party member and try to work
> in the web site of the national party (gp.org) or
> your local or state party.
>
> ? If you can, use a personal angle.  For example,
> if a family member can't pay a medical bill or is
> on the front line in Iraq, it might be worth
> mentioning in a letter to the editor about the
> Green Party's position on health care or the war.
>
> ? Respond to an already published article or
> column.  For example, a recent column in The
> Progressive by Adolph Reed (May 2008 issue,
> http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508) on why
> he isn't supporting Barack Obama deserves a Green
> reply: why doesn't Mr. Reed mention the Green
> presidential candidates?
>
> ? Read "How to Place an Op-Ed or Letter in the
> Top 100 US Newspapers"
> http://theopedproject.org/content/view/8/8/
>
> Start writing letters!  If you get published, let
> us know -- and post it on Green Party discussion
> lists too, so other Greens can read it too.
>
> Scott McLarty
> mclarty at greens.org
> Media Committee
> Green Party of the United States
> http://www.gp.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> GPCA-MediaWG mailing list
> GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
>




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 13:25:48 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:25:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
Message-ID: <1607.153.18.21.146.1211487948.squirrel@greens.org>

Caroline (and all) this is from Bert, one of our GPCA key IT folks.


Green is Connection!

Drew

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
From:    "Bert" <truekahuna at comcast.net>
Date:    Thu, May 22, 2008 10:44
To:      "civillib" <civillib at cwnet.com>
Cc:      gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org
         "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cres (et al),

I don't know about "newspapers are dead". On life support maybe.

I agree with you about TV, but radio and TV are forms of mass media not
readily available to us (addressing that lack of access is part of our
progressive agenda).

Well, that is unless we start turning over cars or walking nude through
the streets of Sacramento - neither of which is worth doing (jail time,
sunburn, etc).

Sending letters to the editor is, just for right now, less about THEM
and more about US: any united action, by rank-and-file Greens, is the
interim end we should pursue.

And a concerted and sustained effort MIGHT just get us somewhere.

But note "concerted" and "sustained"...

Either way, we need to back up the "loud screaming" and letter writing
with some solid on-topic electoral politics on issues that have mass appeal.

Ex: This time around, the Donkeys has themselves a message: "hope"
"change" (blah blah). Bumper sticker stuff. Of course Pelosi and Clinton
and Reid are DLC "idiots as usual", but Obama SOUNDS like the next FDR.
And this all without EVER hitting the REAL issue of economic injustice
at the consumer level.

Simply put, pocketbook issues are STILL not on the Donkey agenda.

We need to hit them with THAT, in practical terms that common people
(who all watch TV) can understand.  For cryin' out loud REPUBLICANS ARE
GETTING WHIPPED IN MISSISSIPPI by Donkeys running on economic populism.

Which means we need to get into the damned game.

Letter writing does prepare the field. But we need to have our message
ready, willing, and able to rock once St Barak runs head on into the
money men that call the Donkey's shots.

Bert

civillib wrote:
> In short, most people get most of their news and information from
television - it's why you see
> virtually all political advertising done there NOT in newspapers, and
very little on radio. And, the
> letters to the editor is the LEAST read part of the paper.
>
> That said, it's better than nothing.
>
> As a PR guy I focus on all media, but when I get 3-5 cameras out I KNOW
- as Caroline suggests -
> I've reached "the people." That's my goal as a progressive spin doctor.
>
> So if people want to do the letter thing, great. As I said, even though
I'm a former daily newspaper
> reporter and editor, I recognize what's been obvious for a decade or
more....newspapers are dead,
> and people - for better or worse (the latter probably) - we need to
reach voters, and voters get
> info from television. Sigh.
>
> Cres
>
> P.S. I send GPCA releases to radio, TV and print. And I fax, not just
email , because  virtually all
> media outlets still prefer faxes.
>
> Drew Johnson wrote:
>> Good points Caroline.  Of course conditions vary across the country and
>> while we in 'Silicon Valley' may not be typical, its true that multiple
>> approaches are needed.  The national Media Committee has more print people
>> than other media forms (the multimedia folks have a working group
>> themselves) so one can understand why there might be a bias in that
>> direction.  Nevertheless, as traditional as it sounds 'Letters to the
>> Editor' remain a very powerful tool in getting our word out -- Did you
>> realize that LttE are picked up by Google News searches and thereby become
>> part of the 'buzz' for getting media attention? Also as we get our letter
>> writing campaigns rolling we can certainly follow up with a call-in
>> campaign and other media outreach efforts.
>>
>> So who else is working on the '100 Letters by May 31st' Campaign???
>>
>>
>> Green is Multi!
>>
>> Drew Johnson
>> GPCA delegate
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 09:12, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>> I have just been rereading the Media Group's challenge. While I think
it's
>>> a good idea, I must confess that I think we will be missing a lot of
>>> people that way. For example, I don't think that I know anyone under
forty
>>> who reads the Letters to the Editor. And I'm a little surprised that the
>>> "Media Group" would concentrate on print media. KQED has a call-in
program
>>> at 9:00 am, and there are, or course, many call-in shows on less Green
>>> friendly stations, for the more adventurous. And then there are chat
>>> rooms. I don't go to any. but I know they are there. Shouldn't we be
going
>>> where the people are?
>>>   Caroline
>>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>> Subject: [GP-US a/v] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
>> From:    "Scott McLarty" <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
>> Date:    Thu, May 15, 2008 11:27
>> To:      media-states at lists.gp-us.org
>>          media-a-v at lists.gp-us.org
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> One hundred Green letters by May 31!
>>
>> (Please forward this as widely as possible to
>> Green Party members & friends)
>>
>> The Media Committee challenges Greens all over to
>> put the Green Party and our candidates on the
>> media map!
>>
>> Our goal is to see ONE HUNDRED letters to the
>> editor sent by Greens to newspapers throughout
>> the US by the end of May.  If enough letters get
>> sent, a good percentage will get published, and
>> hundreds of thousands -- maybe millions -- of
>> voters will read about the Green Party and Green
>> candidates.
>>
>> If you'd rather submit an op-ed column or an
>> article to the newspaper of your choice, that's
>> fine too!
>>
>> What should you write about?  It's up to you:
>>
>> ? Your favorite Green candidate for President of
>> the United States
>>
>> ? Your favorite Green candidate for the US House,
>> US Senate, state legislature, county
>> commissioner, city council, mayor, school board,
>> or any other office
>>
>> ? The upcoming Green National Convention in
>> Chicago, July 10-13
>>
>> ? The Green Party's demand for immediate
>> withdrawal of troops from Iraq
>>
>> ? The Green Party's demand for real action on
>> global warming, rather than ineffective
>> corporate-friendly half measures
>>
>> ? The Green Party's support for single-payer
>> national health care
>>
>> ? Another Green Party position that you consider
>> important
>>
>> ? Anything else you can think of about the Green
>> Party or Green candidates!
>>
>>
>> Here are some suggestions:
>>
>> ? Keep your letter concise & focused.  Five or
>> six sentences is good, but in most larger
>> newspapers, anything longer is in danger of
>> getting edited or immediately rejected.  In many
>> local papers, they'll be happy to print a longer
>> letter.  Op-eds & articles can be longer, too.
>> Check the newspaper's guidelines on submissions.
>>
>> ? Use the word GREEN at least once, preferably a
>> few times, so it's clear that your favorite
>> candidate is a Green candidate, or the position
>> you're espousing is a Green position.  Mention
>> that you're a Green Party member and try to work
>> in the web site of the national party (gp.org) or
>> your local or state party.
>>
>> ? If you can, use a personal angle.  For example,
>> if a family member can't pay a medical bill or is
>> on the front line in Iraq, it might be worth
>> mentioning in a letter to the editor about the
>> Green Party's position on health care or the war.
>>
>> ? Respond to an already published article or
>> column.  For example, a recent column in The
>> Progressive by Adolph Reed (May 2008 issue,
>> http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508) on why
>> he isn't supporting Barack Obama deserves a Green
>> reply: why doesn't Mr. Reed mention the Green
>> presidential candidates?
>>
>> ? Read "How to Place an Op-Ed or Letter in the
>> Top 100 US Newspapers"
>> http://theopedproject.org/content/view/8/8/
>>
>> Start writing letters!  If you get published, let
>> us know -- and post it on Green Party discussion
>> lists too, so other Greens can read it too.
>>
>> Scott McLarty
>> mclarty at greens.org
>> Media Committee
>> Green Party of the United States
>> http://www.gp.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GPCA-MediaWG mailing list
>> GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
>
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 13:27:38 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:27:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
Message-ID: <1612.153.18.21.146.1211488058.squirrel@greens.org>

Cres is correct -- Cable TV is relatively cheap and highly 'targetable'.


Green is Connection!

Drew

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
From:    "Crescenzo Vellucci" <civillib at cwnet.com>
Date:    Thu, May 22, 2008 11:53
To:      "Bert" <truekahuna at comcast.net>
Cc:      "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
         gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well, we CAN do TV. You can buy CNN local PRIME TIME in Vallejo for $4 a
spot. YOu can do the same in Contra Costa for about $20. Sacramento about
$25, Or less.

It's because Greens and progressives continue to think small, and 100
years ago that we are not "in the game," Bert.

As far as free coverage, I've been all over TV here this week and last re:
a 120,000 flag display to commemorate those who have died in Iraq,
civilians and U.S. troops.

We CAN do this. We have to just use the media.

Cres



Bert wrote:
> Cres (et al),
>
> I don't know about "newspapers are dead". On life support maybe.
>
> I agree with you about TV, but radio and TV are forms of mass media not
> readily available to us (addressing that lack of access is part of our
> progressive agenda).
>
> Well, that is unless we start turning over cars or walking nude through
> the streets of Sacramento - neither of which is worth doing (jail time,
> sunburn, etc).
>
> Sending letters to the editor is, just for right now, less about THEM
> and more about US: any united action, by rank-and-file Greens, is the
> interim end we should pursue.
>
> And a concerted and sustained effort MIGHT just get us somewhere.
>
> But note "concerted" and "sustained"...
>
> Either way, we need to back up the "loud screaming" and letter writing
> with some solid on-topic electoral politics on issues that have mass
> appeal.
>
> Ex: This time around, the Donkeys has themselves a message: "hope"
> "change" (blah blah). Bumper sticker stuff. Of course Pelosi and Clinton
> and Reid are DLC "idiots as usual", but Obama SOUNDS like the next FDR.
> And this all without EVER hitting the REAL issue of economic injustice
> at the consumer level.
>
> Simply put, pocketbook issues are STILL not on the Donkey agenda.
>
> We need to hit them with THAT, in practical terms that common people
> (who all watch TV) can understand.  For cryin' out loud REPUBLICANS ARE
> GETTING WHIPPED IN MISSISSIPPI by Donkeys running on economic populism.
>
> Which means we need to get into the damned game.
>
> Letter writing does prepare the field. But we need to have our message
> ready, willing, and able to rock once St Barak runs head on into the
> money men that call the Donkey's shots.
>
> Bert
>
> civillib wrote:
>> In short, most people get most of their news and information from
>> television - it's why you see virtually all political advertising done
>> there NOT in newspapers, and very little on radio. And, the letters to
>> the editor is the LEAST read part of the paper.
>>
>> That said, it's better than nothing.
>>
>> As a PR guy I focus on all media, but when I get 3-5 cameras out I
>> KNOW - as Caroline suggests - I've reached "the people." That's my
>> goal as a progressive spin doctor.
>>
>> So if people want to do the letter thing, great. As I said, even
>> though I'm a former daily newspaper reporter and editor, I recognize
>> what's been obvious for a decade or more....newspapers are dead, and
>> people - for better or worse (the latter probably) - we need to reach
>> voters, and voters get info from television. Sigh.
>>
>> Cres
>>
>> P.S. I send GPCA releases to radio, TV and print. And I fax, not just
>> email , because  virtually all media outlets still prefer faxes.
>>
>> Drew Johnson wrote:
>>> Good points Caroline.  Of course conditions vary across the country and
>>> while we in 'Silicon Valley' may not be typical, its true that multiple
>>> approaches are needed.  The national Media Committee has more print
>>> people
>>> than other media forms (the multimedia folks have a working group
>>> themselves) so one can understand why there might be a bias in that
>>> direction.  Nevertheless, as traditional as it sounds 'Letters to the
>>> Editor' remain a very powerful tool in getting our word out -- Did you
>>> realize that LttE are picked up by Google News searches and thereby
>>> become
>>> part of the 'buzz' for getting media attention? Also as we get our
>>> letter
>>> writing campaigns rolling we can certainly follow up with a call-in
>>> campaign and other media outreach efforts.
>>>
>>> So who else is working on the '100 Letters by May 31st' Campaign???
>>>
>>>
>>> Green is Multi!
>>>
>>> Drew Johnson
>>> GPCA delegate
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 09:12, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>>> I have just been rereading the Media Group's challenge. While I
>>>> think it's
>>>> a good idea, I must confess that I think we will be missing a lot of
>>>> people that way. For example, I don't think that I know anyone under
>>>> forty
>>>> who reads the Letters to the Editor. And I'm a little surprised that
>>>> the
>>>> "Media Group" would concentrate on print media. KQED has a call-in
>>>> program
>>>> at 9:00 am, and there are, or course, many call-in shows on less Green
>>>> friendly stations, for the more adventurous. And then there are chat
>>>> rooms. I don't go to any. but I know they are there. Shouldn't we be
>>>> going
>>>> where the people are?
>>>>   Caroline
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------- Original Message
>>> ----------------------------
>>> Subject: [GP-US a/v] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
>>> From:    "Scott McLarty" <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
>>> Date:    Thu, May 15, 2008 11:27
>>> To:      media-states at lists.gp-us.org
>>>          media-a-v at lists.gp-us.org
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> One hundred Green letters by May 31!
>>>
>>> (Please forward this as widely as possible to
>>> Green Party members & friends)
>>>
>>> The Media Committee challenges Greens all over to
>>> put the Green Party and our candidates on the
>>> media map!
>>>
>>> Our goal is to see ONE HUNDRED letters to the
>>> editor sent by Greens to newspapers throughout
>>> the US by the end of May.  If enough letters get
>>> sent, a good percentage will get published, and
>>> hundreds of thousands -- maybe millions -- of
>>> voters will read about the Green Party and Green
>>> candidates.
>>>
>>> If you'd rather submit an op-ed column or an
>>> article to the newspaper of your choice, that's
>>> fine too!
>>>
>>> What should you write about?  It's up to you:
>>>
>>> ? Your favorite Green candidate for President of
>>> the United States
>>>
>>> ? Your favorite Green candidate for the US House,
>>> US Senate, state legislature, county
>>> commissioner, city council, mayor, school board,
>>> or any other office
>>>
>>> ? The upcoming Green National Convention in
>>> Chicago, July 10-13
>>>
>>> ? The Green Party's demand for immediate
>>> withdrawal of troops from Iraq
>>>
>>> ? The Green Party's demand for real action on
>>> global warming, rather than ineffective
>>> corporate-friendly half measures
>>>
>>> ? The Green Party's support for single-payer
>>> national health care
>>>
>>> ? Another Green Party position that you consider
>>> important
>>>
>>> ? Anything else you can think of about the Green
>>> Party or Green candidates!
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are some suggestions:
>>>
>>> ? Keep your letter concise & focused.  Five or
>>> six sentences is good, but in most larger
>>> newspapers, anything longer is in danger of
>>> getting edited or immediately rejected.  In many
>>> local papers, they'll be happy to print a longer
>>> letter.  Op-eds & articles can be longer, too.
>>> Check the newspaper's guidelines on submissions.
>>>
>>> ? Use the word GREEN at least once, preferably a
>>> few times, so it's clear that your favorite
>>> candidate is a Green candidate, or the position
>>> you're espousing is a Green position.  Mention
>>> that you're a Green Party member and try to work
>>> in the web site of the national party (gp.org) or
>>> your local or state party.
>>>
>>> ? If you can, use a personal angle.  For example,
>>> if a family member can't pay a medical bill or is
>>> on the front line in Iraq, it might be worth
>>> mentioning in a letter to the editor about the
>>> Green Party's position on health care or the war.
>>>
>>> ? Respond to an already published article or
>>> column.  For example, a recent column in The
>>> Progressive by Adolph Reed (May 2008 issue,
>>> http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508) on why
>>> he isn't supporting Barack Obama deserves a Green
>>> reply: why doesn't Mr. Reed mention the Green
>>> presidential candidates?
>>>
>>> ? Read "How to Place an Op-Ed or Letter in the
>>> Top 100 US Newspapers"
>>> http://theopedproject.org/content/view/8/8/
>>>
>>> Start writing letters!  If you get published, let
>>> us know -- and post it on Green Party discussion
>>> lists too, so other Greens can read it too.
>>>
>>> Scott McLarty
>>> mclarty at greens.org
>>> Media Committee
>>> Green Party of the United States
>>> http://www.gp.org
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GPCA-MediaWG mailing list
>>> GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org
>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GPCA-MediaWG mailing list
>> GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
>>
>




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 13:41:00 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:41:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress???
Message-ID: <1660.153.18.21.146.1211488860.squirrel@greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Brezenoff for congress???
From:    "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
Date:    Thu, May 22, 2008 13:06
To:      "daniel brezenoff" <brezenoff at hotmail.com>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Daniel, we in GP of Santa Clara strongly supported your bid for congress
last year v Laura Richardson.  We were very impressed with your public
speaking talent.   Are you running again this year?  BTW Congrats on
becoming a speaker for the GPCA!!!


Green is Connection!

Drew


On Thu, May 22, 2008 10:19, daniel brezenoff wrote:
>
> http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/staff-infection/briefing/congresswoman-laura-richardsons-house-gets-foreclosed-on/
>
> Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814  310 422 2211
"It always
> seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela


>  > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:23:38 -0700> From: civillib at comcast.net> To:
> alexcathy at aol.com> CC: gpbc at googlegroups.com;
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org;
> gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] My Op-Ed
> Posted on The Black Commentator> > Alex,> > Good stuff. Would you mind
> if I took info from here and wound it into a release? We could even
> pump > up where the op-ed is running.> > Thanks,> > Cres> >
> alexcathy at aol.com wrote:> > Dear Green Friends,> > > > The Black
> Commentator posted my op-ed on Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" > > today.
> This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles > > Times
> web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting about > >
> the double-talking antics of Los Angeles' race-obsessed intelligentsia.
> > > > > Please note that they *DID* print my pitch for the Green Party
> in the > > last paragraph.> > > > Alex Walker> > Los Angeles Greens > >
> > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = => > * *> > *Posted on
> The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008*> > *Dissent: No More Race Talk* >
> >
> <http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html>*
> > > *> > *By Alex Walker*> > > > This election is not about race.> > >
> > I repeat, this election is not about race.> > > > This election is
> about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.> > > > On
> the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, > >
> high-faluting, so-called-liberal /New York Times/ published an
> editorial > > titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright > >
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin>.?>
> > The /NYT/ declared "this country needs a healthy and open discussion
> of > > race."> > > > My hometown /Los Angeles Times/ followed suit with
> "The Wright Choice > >
> <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-obama1-2008may01%2C0%2C1603861.story>"
> > > - observing that the issue of race:> > > > ... which invokes
> fundamental questions about the role of government> > and the
> distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should> > be
> discussing...> > > > No!> > > > Candidates should be discussing the
> war, healthcare, schools and the > > catastrophic failure of Bush's
> so-called conservatism. . .> > > > Our race-obsessed Los Angeles
> intellectuals were delighted by Obama's > > failure.> >

>SNIP<




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 13:50:46 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:50:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress???
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Thanks for your service to the GPCA and humynity!

Green is Connection!

Drew


On Thu, May 22, 2008 13:39, daniel brezenoff wrote:
>
> Thanks, Drew. I am not running this year. Not sure I'm cut out for public
> office; did not enjoy the target on my back and the lack of free time and
> privacy. Also, I like telling the truth.
>
> But - what do they always say? - "I'm not ruling anything out yet." It
> won't be this year though.
>
>
> peace to all
>
> d
>
> Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814  310 422 2211"It always
> seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela
>  > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:06:51 -0700> Subject: Brezenoff for
> congress???> From: JamBoi at Greens.org> To: brezenoff at hotmail.com> CC:
> civillib at comcast.net; alexcathy at aol.com; gpbc at googlegroups.com;
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org;
> gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> > Daniel, we in GP of Santa Clara strongly
> supported your bid for congress> last year v Laura Richardson. We were
> very impressed with your public> speaking talent. Are you running again
> this year? BTW Congrats on> becoming a speaker for the GPCA!!!> > >
> Green is Connection!> > Drew> > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 10:19, daniel
> brezenoff wrote:> >> >
> http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/staff-infection/briefing/congresswoman-laura-richardsons-house-gets-foreclosed-on/>
> >> > Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814 310 422 2211>
> "It always> > seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:23:38 -0700> From: civillib at comcast.net>
> To:> > alexcathy at aol.com> CC: gpbc at googlegroups.com;> >
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org;> >
> gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] My Op-Ed> >
> Posted on The Black Commentator> > Alex,> > Good stuff. Would you mind>
> > if I took info from here and wound it into a release? We could even>
> > pump > up where the op-ed is running.> > Thanks,> > Cres> >> >
> alexcathy at aol.com wrote:> > Dear Green Friends,> > > > The Black> >
> Commentator posted my op-ed on Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" > > today.> >
> This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles > >
> Times> > web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting
> about > >> > the double-talking antics of Los Angeles' race-obsessed
> intelligentsia.> > > > > > Please note that they *DID* print my pitch
> for the Green Party> > in the > > last paragraph.> > > > Alex Walker> >
> Los Angeles Greens > >> > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
> => > * *> > *Posted on> > The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008*> >
> *Dissent: No More Race Talk* >> > >> >
> <http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html>*>
> > > > *> > *By Alex Walker*> > > > This election is not about race.> >
> >> > > I repeat, this election is not about race.> > > > This election
> is> > about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.> > > >
> On> > the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, >
> >> > high-faluting, so-called-liberal /New York Times/ published an> >
> editorial > > titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright > >> >
> <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin>.?>>
> > > The /NYT/ declared "this country needs a healthy and open
> discussion> > of > > race."> > > > My hometown /Los Angeles Times/
> followed suit with> > "The Wright Choice > >> >
> <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-obama1-2008may01%2C0%2C1603861.story>">
> > > > - observing that the issue of race:> > > > ... which invokes> >
> fundamental questions about the role of government> > and the> >
> distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should> > be> >
> discussing...> > > > No!> > > > Candidates should be discussing the> >
> war, healthcare, schools and the > > catastrophic failure of Bush's> >
> so-called conservatism. . .> > > > Our race-obsessed Los Angeles> >
> intellectuals were delighted by Obama's > > failure.> >> > >SNIP<>




From brezenoff at hotmail.com  Thu May 22 13:39:42 2008
From: brezenoff at hotmail.com (daniel brezenoff)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:39:42 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress???
In-Reply-To: <1514.153.18.21.146.1211486811.squirrel@greens.org>
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	<48359E0A.4060005@comcast.net>
	<BAY126-W3B8549AC8204472C4CCB0A4C60@phx.gbl> 
	<1514.153.18.21.146.1211486811.squirrel@greens.org>
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Thanks, Drew. I am not running this year. Not sure I'm cut out for public office; did not enjoy the target on my back and the lack of free time and privacy. Also, I like telling the truth.
 
But - what do they always say? - "I'm not ruling anything out yet." It won't be this year though.
 
 
peace to all
 
d
  
Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814310 422 2211"It always seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela
 > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:06:51 -0700> Subject: Brezenoff for congress???> From: JamBoi at Greens.org> To: brezenoff at hotmail.com> CC: civillib at comcast.net; alexcathy at aol.com; gpbc at googlegroups.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org; gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> > Daniel, we in GP of Santa Clara strongly supported your bid for congress> last year v Laura Richardson. We were very impressed with your public> speaking talent. Are you running again this year? BTW Congrats on> becoming a speaker for the GPCA!!!> > > Green is Connection!> > Drew> > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 10:19, daniel brezenoff wrote:> >> > http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/staff-infection/briefing/congresswoman-laura-richardsons-house-gets-foreclosed-on/> >> > Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814 310 422 2211> "It always> > seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela> > > > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:23:38 -0700> From: civillib at comcast.net> To:> > alexcathy at aol.com> CC: gpbc at googlegroups.com;> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org;> > gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] My Op-Ed> > Posted on The Black Commentator> > Alex,> > Good stuff. Would you mind> > if I took info from here and wound it into a release? We could even> > pump > up where the op-ed is running.> > Thanks,> > Cres> >> > alexcathy at aol.com wrote:> > Dear Green Friends,> > > > The Black> > Commentator posted my op-ed on Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" > > today.> > This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles > > Times> > web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting about > >> > the double-talking antics of Los Angeles' race-obsessed intelligentsia.> > > > > > Please note that they *DID* print my pitch for the Green Party> > in the > > last paragraph.> > > > Alex Walker> > Los Angeles Greens > >> > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = => > * *> > *Posted on> > The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008*> > *Dissent: No More Race Talk* >> > >> > <http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html>*> > > > *> > *By Alex Walker*> > > > This election is not about race.> > >> > > I repeat, this election is not about race.> > > > This election is> > about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.> > > > On> > the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, > >> > high-faluting, so-called-liberal /New York Times/ published an> > editorial > > titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright > >> > <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin>.?>> > > The /NYT/ declared "this country needs a healthy and open discussion> > of > > race."> > > > My hometown /Los Angeles Times/ followed suit with> > "The Wright Choice > >> > <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-obama1-2008may01%2C0%2C1603861.story>"> > > > - observing that the issue of race:> > > > ... which invokes> > fundamental questions about the role of government> > and the> > distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should> > be> > discussing...> > > > No!> > > > Candidates should be discussing the> > war, healthcare, schools and the > > catastrophic failure of Bush's> > so-called conservatism. . .> > > > Our race-obsessed Los Angeles> > intellectuals were delighted by Obama's > > failure.> >> > >SNIP<> 
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Wow that is disappointing to hear Dan. We certainly need more people like you out there trying to make the greens a contending party. I can understand your decision though and wish you well. 

Kaisha
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: daniel brezenoff <brezenoff at hotmail.com>

Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:39:42 
To:Drew Johnson <jamboi at greens.org>
Cc:civillib at comcast.net, gpbc at googlegroups.com, alexcathy at aol.com,sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org,gplac-forum at cagreens.org
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress???


Thanks, Drew. I am not running this year. Not sure I'm cut out for public office; did not enjoy the target on my back and the lack of free time and privacy. Also, I like telling the truth.
 ?
 But - what do they always say? - "I'm not ruling anything out yet." It won't be this year though.
 ?
 ?
 peace to all
 ?
 d


 
? 
 
Daniel Brezenoff, lcsw
long beach california 90814
310 422 2211

"It always seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela

 
?

> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:06:51 -0700
> Subject: Brezenoff for congress???
> From: JamBoi at Greens.org
> To: brezenoff at hotmail.com
> CC: civillib at comcast.net; alexcathy at aol.com; gpbc at googlegroups.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org; gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org
> 
> Daniel, we in GP of Santa Clara strongly supported your bid for congress
> last year v Laura Richardson. We were very impressed with your public
> speaking talent. Are you running again this year? BTW Congrats on
> becoming a speaker for the GPCA!!!
> 
> 
> Green is Connection!
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 10:19, daniel brezenoff wrote:
> >
> > http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/staff-infection/briefing/congresswoman-laura-richardsons-house-gets-foreclosed-on/
> >
> > Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814 310 422 2211
> "It always
> > seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela
> 
> 
> > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:23:38 -0700> From: civillib at comcast.net> To:
> > alexcathy at aol.com> CC: gpbc at googlegroups.com;
> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org;
> > gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] My Op-Ed
> > Posted on The Black Commentator> > Alex,> > Good stuff. Would you mind
> > if I took info from here and wound it into a release? We could even
> > pump > up where the op-ed is running.> > Thanks,> > Cres> >
> > alexcathy at aol.com wrote:> > Dear Green Friends,> > > > The Black
> > Commentator posted my op-ed on Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" > > today.
> > This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles > > Times
> > web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting about > >
> > the double-talking antics of Los Angeles' race-obsessed intelligentsia.
> > > > > > Please note that they *DID* print my pitch for the Green Party
> > in the > > last paragraph.> > > > Alex Walker> > Los Angeles Greens > >
> > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = => > * *> > *Posted on
> > The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008*> > *Dissent: No More Race Talk* >
> > >
> > <http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html>*
> > > > *> > *By Alex Walker*> > > > This election is not about race.> > >
> > > I repeat, this election is not about race.> > > > This election is
> > about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.> > > > On
> > the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, > >
> > high-faluting, so-called-liberal /New York Times/ published an
> > editorial > > titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright > >
> > <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin>.?>
> > > The /NYT/ declared "this country needs a healthy and open discussion
> > of > > race."> > > > My hometown /Los Angeles Times/ followed suit with
> > "The Wright Choice > >
> > <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-obama1-2008may01%2C0%2C1603861.story>"
> > > > - observing that the issue of race:> > > > ... which invokes
> > fundamental questions about the role of government> > and the
> > distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should> > be
> > discussing...> > > > No!> > > > Candidates should be discussing the
> > war, healthcare, schools and the > > catastrophic failure of Bush's
> > so-called conservatism. . .> > > > Our race-obsessed Los Angeles
> > intellectuals were delighted by Obama's > > failure.> >
> 
> >SNIP<
> 
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu May 22 17:13:10 2008
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:13:10 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress??? Maybe 2010
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Dear Dan, 

These comments just go to show that we have not forgotten what a great candidate you were, Daniel.? Remember, I was the original "Doubting Thomas" on this e-list when you first announced your candidacy.? Nevertheless, the first couple of times I saw you in action I was totally impressed.? Don't be so humble about not being "cut out for politics."? You were a great candidate and Laura Richardson was (and is) terrible.? If the California Green Party
had been able to raise $100,000 (which we ought to be able to do in the
big state of California), you might have actually won the doggone
thing.? 

In 2008, running as a half-assed incumbent, Laura Richardson probably won't have to campaign to win 80% of the vote in November.? If Barack Obama had, indeed, been "Kicked to the curb" by the Democratic Party bosses like I expected, Richardson and the rest of those two-timing rats would be catching hell from the Black community.? 

Daniel, I am fifty-eight.? My wife is sixty-three.? My time is passing, but you and your wife are young.? The Green Hour is coming.? I do believe it.? If the Democrats blow it in November (as dysfunctional as they are, they just might), then the historic Democratic Party of the United States may collapse.? If the Democrats win it in November, then President Obama is gonna catch hell like nobody's business from all sides.? Either way, there is going to be a lot of new people who for various reasons are going to take another look at the idea of the Green Party.? And Cynthia McKinney is smashing the stereotype that the Green Party is a "white folks" thing.? Just wait until we see more weird weather and gasoline is $6.00 or $7.00 a gallon -- then people will be ready to listen.? 

People are going to demand an alternative.? We are it.? The 2010 mid-term election... that will be a good year for Greens.? 


Alex Walker 
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 22 17:12:54 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:12:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress???
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Well as you can see Daniel, you've got some supporters up here in Santa
Clara Co.  We were really quite impressed with your presentations in the
videos that were available on the web.  Given just a little more time I
think we would have had more of us come down to help you out on your
campaign.

Along those lines, are you aware that the GP-US is looking to recruit
members for the House (as in Congressional) Campaign
Committee.  This is a little bit along the lines of what you and I talked
about that the GP-US needs to do to target Congressional races in order to
effectively marshal our resources and eventually win a seat in congress. 
Would you be interested in being nominated for this committee?  I'd be
happy to nominate you. :-)


Green is Harambee!

Drew Johnson
GPCA delegate

On Thu, May 22, 2008 15:18, kaisha_marie at comcast.net wrote:
> Wow that is disappointing to hear Dan. We certainly need more people like
> you out there trying to make the greens a contending party. I can
> understand your decision though and wish you well.
>
> Kaisha
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: daniel brezenoff <brezenoff at hotmail.com>
>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 16:39:42
> To:Drew Johnson <jamboi at greens.org>
> Cc:civillib at comcast.net, gpbc at googlegroups.com,
> alexcathy at aol.com,sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org,
> gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org,gplac-forum at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress???
>
>
> Thanks, Drew. I am not running this year. Not sure I'm cut out for public
> office; did not enjoy the target on my back and the lack of free time and
> privacy. Also, I like telling the truth.
>
>  But - what do they always say? - "I'm not ruling anything out yet." It
> won't be this year though.
>
>
>  peace to all
>
>  d
>
>
>
>
>
> Daniel Brezenoff, lcsw
> long beach california 90814
> 310 422 2211
>
> "It always seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:06:51 -0700
>> Subject: Brezenoff for congress???
>> From: JamBoi at Greens.org
>> To: brezenoff at hotmail.com
>> CC: civillib at comcast.net; alexcathy at aol.com; gpbc at googlegroups.com;
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org;
>> gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org
>>
>> Daniel, we in GP of Santa Clara strongly supported your bid for congress
>> last year v Laura Richardson. We were very impressed with your public
>> speaking talent. Are you running again this year? BTW Congrats on
>> becoming a speaker for the GPCA!!!
>>
>>
>> Green is Connection!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 10:19, daniel brezenoff wrote:
>> >
>> > http://thedistrictweekly.com/daily/staff-infection/briefing/congresswoman-laura-richardsons-house-gets-foreclosed-on/
>> >
>> > Daniel Brezenoff, lcswlong beach california 90814 310 422 2211
>> "It always
>> > seems impossible until it is done" - Nelson Mandela
>>
>>
>> > > Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:23:38 -0700> From: civillib at comcast.net>
>> To:
>> > alexcathy at aol.com> CC: gpbc at googlegroups.com;
>> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; gplac-forum at cagreens.org;
>> > gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org> Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] My Op-Ed
>> > Posted on The Black Commentator> > Alex,> > Good stuff. Would you mind
>> > if I took info from here and wound it into a release? We could even
>> > pump > up where the op-ed is running.> > Thanks,> > Cres> >
>> > alexcathy at aol.com wrote:> > Dear Green Friends,> > > > The Black
>> > Commentator posted my op-ed on Clinton-Obama "Race Talk" > > today.
>> > This is a variation of one that was posted on the Los Angeles > >
>> Times
>> > web site recently, except that this one is more hard-hitting about > >
>> > the double-talking antics of Los Angeles' race-obsessed
>> intelligentsia.
>> > > > > > Please note that they *DID* print my pitch for the Green Party
>> > in the > > last paragraph.> > > > Alex Walker> > Los Angeles Greens >
>> >
>> > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = => > * *> > *Posted on
>> > The Black Commentator, May 22, 2008*> > *Dissent: No More Race Talk* >
>> > >
>> > <http://www.blackcommentator.com/278/278_dissent_no_more_race_talk_walker_guest.html>*
>> > > > *> > *By Alex Walker*> > > > This election is not about race.> > >
>> > > I repeat, this election is not about race.> > > > This election is
>> > about the worst president in U.S. history: George W. Bush.> > > > On
>> > the eve of the latest presidential primaries, the high-minded, > >
>> > high-faluting, so-called-liberal /New York Times/ published an
>> > editorial > > titled ?Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright > >
>> > <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/opinion/30wed1.html?_r=ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin>.?>
>> > > The /NYT/ declared "this country needs a healthy and open discussion
>> > of > > race."> > > > My hometown /Los Angeles Times/ followed suit
>> with
>> > "The Wright Choice > >
>> > <http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-ed-obama1-2008may01%2C0%2C1603861.story>"
>> > > > - observing that the issue of race:> > > > ... which invokes
>> > fundamental questions about the role of government> > and the
>> > distribution of wealth, is something the candidates should> > be
>> > discussing...> > > > No!> > > > Candidates should be discussing the
>> > war, healthcare, schools and the > > catastrophic failure of Bush's
>> > so-called conservatism. . .> > > > Our race-obsessed Los Angeles
>> > intellectuals were delighted by Obama's > > failure.> >
>>
>> >SNIP<
>>
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May 23 10:06:08 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] I Nominate Daniel Brezenoff for House Campaign
	Committee
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I nominate Daniel Brezenoff of Long Beach California for the House
Campaign Committee.

Daniel ran for congress in the special election for the 37th CACD last
year. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California's_37th_congressional_district_special_election,_2007

He made it into the runoff election:
http://losangelesgreens.org/2007/06/37th-congressional-district-special.html
and then placed 3rd with a respectable 5.37% of the vote.
http://losangelesgreens.org/labels/Daniel%20Brezenoff.html

Daniel is youthful, energetic and a great speaker.  Here are some campaign
speeches he gave that will give you an idea of what an exciting Green
Daniel is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YM4_j-iCfto&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7R8Rzz2Jw4&feature=related


Daniel's e-mail address: brezenoff at hotmail.com

Daniel Brezenoff, lcsw
long beach california 90814
310 422 2211



Green is Connection!

Drew Johnson
GPCA delegate



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat May 24 10:39:31 2008
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:39:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Nader according to John Nichols
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A favorable commentary from Nichols:

     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/24/9171/

Gerry



From wrolley at charter.net  Sat May 24 10:45:45 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:45:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] It scares the hell out of me
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sat May 24 18:40:17 2008
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 21:40:17 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Brezenoff for congress??? Maybe 2010
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I think the RunCynthiaRun group demonstrated the most likely  way to draft 
canidates.
 
1.  Identify who you want to recruit (preferably at least  a year before the 
Primary Election)
2.  Create a list of supporters who are committed to work  on the campaign 
for at least the next year
3.  Form a campaign committee and collect checks or  pledges of at least 
$5,000
4.  Go to the candidate and say "here is the start of  your campaign support; 
will you run?"
 
So people know, Daniel Brezenoff was recruited for a special  election on a 
Thursday when petition signatures were due the following  Monday.  He had very 
few campaign volunteers and very little financial  support.  He did a hero's 
job as a candidate.  Warner
 



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From andid at cagreens.org  Sun May 25 15:15:05 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:15:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Any GP Action Due? Or Do We Ignore This
	Commercialization?
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Both political parties are controlled by big corporations. And thus  
they can't stand with the people.

The Rocky Mountain News reports this week that the Democratic  
National Convention in Denver this summer is being sponsored by 56  
major American corporations.

Can we do anything about it?




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From andid at cagreens.org  Sun May 25 15:17:53 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:17:53 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPSC General Meeting Redesign
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Well said, Drew!
We can also do some of this work via email.
Andi

On May 22, 2008, at 8:29 AM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> "Greens should focus on organizing their local meetings around  
> activities.
> For example: Bylaws meetings are a good way to kill your  
> organization and
> should be worked on in committee not at General Meetings."
>
>    Brent McMillan, Political Director, GP-US
>
> Took the words right out of my mouth!  We need to cease and desist in
> using our General Meeting as some kind of Committee of the Whole.   
> Until
> we do I will continue to vehemently steer people away from our General
> Meeting (which I consider a form of cruel and unusual punishment) and
> towards their Local meetings that we are developing now.  We can hold
> committee meetings for our ongoing admin needs (like Outreach (incl.
> Strategy, Tabling),  Inreach (incl Fundraising), Media (Incl.  
> Newsletter,
> Resolutions such as Gerry's Impeachment resolution)  but major word
> smithing documents on the fly at our General Meetings is something no
> Green should be asked to go through.
>
> Jim Doyle, Merriam and I have been discussing for months how we'd  
> likew to
> reorg the General Meetings so that the County Council meetings and the
> General Meetings do not end up essentially beibg carbon copies of one
> another.  It boils down to trying something closer to what San  
> Mateo does
> -- their Count Council Meeting is essentially their business meeting
> (although again the Co Council Meeting shouldn't devolve into a  
> control
> freak's dream and everyone else'e nightmare of another Committee of  
> the
> Whole) and their General Meeting they have video and discussion of  
> general
> interest.  We want to get conversation flowing on redesign of our  
> meetings
> to be more stimulating and FUN!
>
>
> Green is Division of Labor!
>
> Drew
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Brent McMillan <brent at gp.org>
> Date: May 21, 2008 2:24 PM
> Subject: [usgp-dx] 2005 Green Party National Survey Results -  
> Section B:
> Internal/Membership/Financial
> To: national comm affairs <natlcomaffairs at green.gpus.org>
>
> Dear NC Delegate:
>
> Some you were probably not at the meeting in Tulsa when we  
> presented the
> 2005 Green Party National Survey Results. We never made the survey  
> results
> public. I think that there is value though in going back and taking  
> a look
> at it now and again. Following is the section involving
> Internal/Membership/Financial. It's good to see that we have  
> accomplished
> some of the recommendations listed.
>
> In service:
>
> Brent McMillan, Political Director
> Green Party of the United States
> 202-319-7191
> brent at gp.org
>
> Section B: Internal/Membership/Financial
>
> 1. Results Summary
>
> Strengths:
>
> Survey respondents clearly indicated that they felt that the  
> strengths of
> the Green Party in terms of its internal policies and structure is  
> that
> first and foremost we are based on the 10 Key Values (mean 8.5) and
> secondly that we do not take corporate contributions (mean 8.2).  
> Greens
> openness to people of all political backgrounds was also considered
> important (mean 7.3).
>
> Greens said that the publicity/outreach methods that they have  
> found to be
> most effective for gaining energy, members and/or political power  
> at the
> local level was Word-of-Mouth (63%) closely followed by Running  
> Candidates
> for Office (62%). Listed as the three most ineffective methods  
> were, radio
> and TV ads (5%), intentional spoiling (8%) and working with  
> Republicans
> and Democrats (9%).
>
> Weaknesses:
>
> Survey respondents said that the two biggest things standing in the  
> way of
> the growth of the party are that there are too many destructive
> critics/infighting (mean 7.5%) and that there are not enough people to
> fill the existing committees to make them effective (mean 7.5%).
>
> When asked, "What changes (if any) do you think need to be made to the
> national Party's administrative structure, policies, or procedures?"
> survey respondents put the need for paid full-time fundraising  
> staff (58%)
> as a top priority. Second to that was paid permanent staff (53%).  
> Also of
> note was the need for more spokespeople (51%) and to  
> institutionalize that
> fact that we do not accept corporate contributions into our bylaws  
> (48%).
>
> Opportunities:
>
> When asked, "Where should national Green Party funds be focused?"  
> Campaign
> aid for state and local races was the top priority (mean 8.1).  
> Second to
> that was the need for paid permanent staff (mean 7.6). This was also
> reinforced in another question. See Weaknesses. There is also  
> significant
> support for helping fund ballot access efforts and legal fights  
> associated
> with ballot access efforts (mean 7.5). Building a reserve for national
> political campaigns garnered the least support (mean 5.5).
>
> Greens would like to see more participants at their local meetings  
> (53%).
> They would also like to see less talk and more action (52%).
>
> Threats:
>
> Greens felt that the biggest obstacles to recruiting new members were
> voter apathy and a belief that politics is 'dirty' (mean 7.2).  
> 'Lack of
> advertising or promotional funds' (mean 6.9) closely followed by 'no
> dedicated local committee/effort towards this purpose' (mean 6.7) were
> also indicated.
>
> Goals:
>
> Overwhelmingly Greens agreed that setting a goal of Viable, affiliated
> parties in all 50 states and all territories by the year 2020  
> should be
> the main membership goal of the national party (mean 9.3).
>
> Greens agreed that by the year 2020 they would like to see a
> fundraising/budget at $10 million level per year (mean 8.1). They also
> indicated that Full time fundraisers should be hired (mean 7.7).
>
> Priorities:
>
> National:
>
> Clearly, Greens would like to see more collaboration between the  
> national
> party and their state/local party (79%). 19% responded the "same"  
> and 2%
> responded "less."
>
> The number one focus that survey respondents wanted to see national  
> focus
> on is ballot access for state parties (mean 8.3). Fundraising (mean  
> 7.8),
> Media Support and Training (mean 7.8) were also identified as high
> priorities. Platform Development had the least support of the options
> (mean 5.3).
>
> State and Local:
>
> Survey respondents want to see their state and local parties focus on
> Candidate recruitment/selection (mean 8.6) closely followed by  
> 'Membership
> Drive' (mean 8.5). Rated as least important of the options listed was
> 'Structural Re-organization' (mean 5.1).
>
> 2. Recommendations
>
> We have to become more effective at dealing with conflict within the
> party. There has been much emphasis in the Green Party on  
> Facilitation but
> little to none on Mediation. We need to build Mediation skills in the
> Party.
>
> We need to continue to work to build a 'big tent.' At the national  
> level
> we need to work to make this party welcoming to folks of different
> political backgrounds. We need to be careful to not alienate future
> converts. We need to head off efforts by sectarian groups within  
> the party
> that seek to dominate or drive out others. We need to emphasize the  
> use of
> IRV and Proportional Representation in our own internal elections and
> avoid winner take all politics. Proxies should remain limited at best.
>
> We need to recognize the behavior of "Dominance" and confront it.  
> There
> are many forms of dominance. One form is where one individual  
> always has
> to have their say. They do so at the exclusion of others. Another  
> form of
> this is when one individual says the same thing over and over again.
> Everyone in the party has a responsibility to stand up to bullies and
> support others who do. They count on silence and take it as  
> consent. The
> group as a whole has to make it clear that we don't tolerate that
> behavior.
>
> Another thing which undermines Unity is Gossip. We all know how
> destructive this can be. We just need to be reminded of it. Character
> assassination is a form of violence and should not be tolerated.
>
> We need to confront bullies in the party and deal effectively with  
> their
> behavior. We need to confront 'power politickers' and 'destructive
> critics' and steer them into more productive behavior. We need to  
> clearly
> distinguish between dissent and bullying.
>
> We need to encourage the development of Membership Committees and
> Coordinators. Greens need to set goals for recruitment and develop  
> a plan
> for meeting these goals. Then they need to take action. The Green  
> Party of
> Maine has done an outstanding job in this regard. We need to study  
> what
> they have done and spread the message of what has been the key to  
> their
> success.
>
> We need to make committee work more attractive to volunteers. We  
> need to
> do a better job of recruiting committee members. If you've been  
> around for
> awhile in the party, who are you mentoring?
>
> At the national level we need to continue to emphasize the  
> development of
> our Fundraising Program. We need to get back to where we have a  
> full-time
> Fundraising Director. Fundraising needs to be a team effort. Green
> fundraising is different. We need to identify how it is different from
> other types of fundraising. We need to better document what works  
> and what
> doesn't work and communicate that through out the organization. If  
> we are
> to win at the Federal Level we will have to have a fundraising  
> revolution
> in this party. After re-establishing this position there is support  
> for
> more outreach.
>
> In the BRPP long range plan the fourth national director envisioned  
> is a
> Field Director. We need to establish an Outreach Committee at the  
> national
> level. The Field Director would be the staff person to the Outreach
> Committee. We need to develop materials to assist local organizing and
> development.
>
> Ballot Access needs to be made into a standing committee of the  
> national
> party. The national party needs to take on a leadership role on ballot
> access and not 'just leave it up to the states.' Ballot Access  
> should have
> a line item in the budget.
>
> Greens should focus on organizing their local meetings around  
> activities.
> For example: Bylaws meetings are a good way to kill your  
> organization and
> should be worked on in committee not at General Meetings.
>
> # # # #
>
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Sun May 25 15:25:04 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:25:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] One hundred Green letters by
	May 31!]
In-Reply-To: <1601.153.18.21.146.1211487831.squirrel@greens.org>
References: <1601.153.18.21.146.1211487831.squirrel@greens.org>
Message-ID: <543E1013-0BD4-404B-8550-27EE2138FC57@cagreens.org>

I read the comics, the editorial page, and then the letters from the  
public.
Too often I get frustrated by the ignorance of the public, however.
The rest of the paper is not as interesting to me, but if I have time  
I'll thumb through it.
Maybe I am unusual in that I want to know what the "ruling" class and  
the run-of-the-mill bunch (like me) think about what's going on?
Andi

On May 22, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:
> Caroline, this is the response from the GPCA's Press Secretary...
>
> Green is Connection!
>
> Drew
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message  
> ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
> From:    "Crescenzo Vellucci" <civillib at cwnet.com>
> Date:    Thu, May 22, 2008 09:50
> To:      "Drew Johnson" <JamBoi at Greens.org>
> Cc:      gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ----
>
> In short, most people get most of their news and information from
> television - it's why you see virtually all political advertising done
> there NOT in newspapers, and very little on radio. And, the letters  
> to the
> editor is the LEAST read part of the paper.
>
> That said, it's better than nothing.
>
> As a PR guy I focus on all media, but when I get 3-5 cameras out I  
> KNOW -
> as Caroline suggests - I've reached "the people." That's my goal as a
> progressive spin doctor.
>
> So if people want to do the letter thing, great. As I said, even  
> though
> I'm a former daily newspaper reporter and editor, I recognize  
> what's been
> obvious for a decade or more....newspapers are dead, and people - for
> better or worse (the latter probably) - we need to reach voters, and
> voters get
> info from television. Sigh.
>
> Cres
>
> P.S. I send GPCA releases to radio, TV and print. And I fax, not just
> email, because  virtually all media outlets still prefer faxes.
>
> Drew Johnson wrote:
>> Good points Caroline.  Of course conditions vary across the  
>> country and
>> while we in 'Silicon Valley' may not be typical, its true that  
>> multiple
>> approaches are needed.  The national Media Committee has more  
>> print people
>> than other media forms (the multimedia folks have a working group
>> themselves) so one can understand why there might be a bias in that
>> direction.  Nevertheless, as traditional as it sounds 'Letters to the
>> Editor' remain a very powerful tool in getting our word out -- Did  
>> you
>> realize that LttE are picked up by Google News searches and  
>> thereby become
>> part of the 'buzz' for getting media attention? Also as we get our  
>> letter
>> writing campaigns rolling we can certainly follow up with a call-in
>> campaign and other media outreach efforts.
>>
>> So who else is working on the '100 Letters by May 31st' Campaign???
>>
>>
>> Green is Multi!
>>
>> Drew Johnson
>> GPCA delegate
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 09:12, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>> I have just been rereading the Media Group's challenge. While I  
>>> think it's
>>> a good idea, I must confess that I think we will be missing a lot of
>>> people that way. For example, I don't think that I know anyone  
>>> under forty
>>> who reads the Letters to the Editor. And I'm a little surprised  
>>> that the
>>> "Media Group" would concentrate on print media. KQED has a call- 
>>> in program
>>> at 9:00 am, and there are, or course, many call-in shows on less  
>>> Green
>>> friendly stations, for the more adventurous. And then there are chat
>>> rooms. I don't go to any. but I know they are there. Shouldn't we  
>>> be going
>>> where the people are?
>>>   Caroline
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------- Original Message  
>> ----------------------------
>> Subject: [GP-US a/v] One hundred Green letters by May 31!
>> From:    "Scott McLarty" <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
>> Date:    Thu, May 15, 2008 11:27
>> To:      media-states at lists.gp-us.org
>>          media-a-v at lists.gp-us.org
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>> -----
>>
>> One hundred Green letters by May 31!
>>
>> (Please forward this as widely as possible to
>> Green Party members & friends)
>>
>> The Media Committee challenges Greens all over to
>> put the Green Party and our candidates on the
>> media map!
>>
>> Our goal is to see ONE HUNDRED letters to the
>> editor sent by Greens to newspapers throughout
>> the US by the end of May.  If enough letters get
>> sent, a good percentage will get published, and
>> hundreds of thousands -- maybe millions -- of
>> voters will read about the Green Party and Green
>> candidates.
>>
>> If you'd rather submit an op-ed column or an
>> article to the newspaper of your choice, that's
>> fine too!
>>
>> What should you write about?  It's up to you:
>>
>> ? Your favorite Green candidate for President of
>> the United States
>>
>> ? Your favorite Green candidate for the US House,
>> US Senate, state legislature, county
>> commissioner, city council, mayor, school board,
>> or any other office
>>
>> ? The upcoming Green National Convention in
>> Chicago, July 10-13
>>
>> ? The Green Party's demand for immediate
>> withdrawal of troops from Iraq
>>
>> ? The Green Party's demand for real action on
>> global warming, rather than ineffective
>> corporate-friendly half measures
>>
>> ? The Green Party's support for single-payer
>> national health care
>>
>> ? Another Green Party position that you consider
>> important
>>
>> ? Anything else you can think of about the Green
>> Party or Green candidates!
>>
>>
>> Here are some suggestions:
>>
>> ? Keep your letter concise & focused.  Five or
>> six sentences is good, but in most larger
>> newspapers, anything longer is in danger of
>> getting edited or immediately rejected.  In many
>> local papers, they'll be happy to print a longer
>> letter.  Op-eds & articles can be longer, too.
>> Check the newspaper's guidelines on submissions.
>>
>> ? Use the word GREEN at least once, preferably a
>> few times, so it's clear that your favorite
>> candidate is a Green candidate, or the position
>> you're espousing is a Green position.  Mention
>> that you're a Green Party member and try to work
>> in the web site of the national party (gp.org) or
>> your local or state party.
>>
>> ? If you can, use a personal angle.  For example,
>> if a family member can't pay a medical bill or is
>> on the front line in Iraq, it might be worth
>> mentioning in a letter to the editor about the
>> Green Party's position on health care or the war.
>>
>> ? Respond to an already published article or
>> column.  For example, a recent column in The
>> Progressive by Adolph Reed (May 2008 issue,
>> http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508) on why
>> he isn't supporting Barack Obama deserves a Green
>> reply: why doesn't Mr. Reed mention the Green
>> presidential candidates?
>>
>> ? Read "How to Place an Op-Ed or Letter in the
>> Top 100 US Newspapers"
>> http://theopedproject.org/content/view/8/8/
>>
>> Start writing letters!  If you get published, let
>> us know -- and post it on Green Party discussion
>> lists too, so other Greens can read it too.
>>
>> Scott McLarty
>> mclarty at greens.org
>> Media Committee
>> Green Party of the United States
>> http://www.gp.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GPCA-MediaWG mailing list
>> GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg
>>
>
>
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>



From cbrouillet at igc.org  Mon May 26 16:20:50 2008
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:20:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Impeachment Slate Press Conf.
 tomorrow/ Impeachment play
Message-ID: <E1K0lzj-000703-7G@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

If Impeachment Activists could come with me to 
San Francisco tomorrow, I'd really appreciate it.

#1)Press Conference for California Impeachment 
Slate Candidates, Tues, May 27th - noon, San 
Francisco Chronicle , 901 Mission @ corner of 5th, SF
#2) "I", The Impeachment Trial of George W. Bush 
and Richard B. Cheney, A play,  Fri. & Sat., May 
30 & 31 , 8 pm , 655 De Haro St, San Francisco

#2)Press Conference for California Impeachment Slate Candidates
Tues, May 27th - noon
In front of San Francisco Chronicle offices, 901 Mission @ corner of 5th

SAN FRANCISCO: "One year ago in Detroit," says 
congressional candidate Brad Newsham, "Detroit 
City Council member Monica Conyers performed an 
outrage-ous act of political courage. Even though 
her husband, John Conyers -- chair of the House 
Judiciary Committee and one of America?" most 
powerful politicians " is staunchly 
anti-impeachment, Ms. Conyers introduced a 
pro-impeachment resolution that the Detroit 
council unanimously approved. Now we?'re asking 
her to step up again. We want her to run for her husband's seat in Congress."
In some twenty districts across California, 
challengers are taking on the state's incumbents. 
In San Franciso, Cindy Sheehan and Shirley Golub 
are challenging Nancy Pelosi. Newsham, organizer 
of the Beach Impeach events (below), is 
challenging Barbara Lee in the East Bay. On 
Tuesday, several of them will gather in San 
Francisco to publicize their slate and their invitation to Monica Conyers.

In addition to an Impeachment Slate for 
California Candidates, there are growing numbers 
of candidates forming a national coalition of 
Impeachment Candidates- the New Broom Coalition 
with the same imperative- Impeachment.

- Candidates planning to attend, with incumbents 
they're challenging in parentheses: Shirley Golub 
(Nancy Pelosi, June Primary); Cindy Sheehan 
(Pelosi, November General Election); Brad Newsham 
(Barbara Lee, June); Cynthia Papermaster (Pete 
Stark, Nov.); Ed Newman (Lynne Woolsey); Ann 
Catherine Keirns (Zoe Lofgren); Carol Brouillet 
(Anna Eshoo, Nov.); Carol Wolman (Mike Honda, Nov.)

[I could really use some support and help, 
especially holding banners- "Impeach the 
Terrorists!" and our beautiful key sign with 
"9/11 Truth = Peace symbol, and Impeach = Justice 
symbol, and to pass out literature and Deception 
Dollars. I can carry 4 more people from Palo Alto 
Carol Brouillet, 650-857-0927]


#3) "I", The Impeachment Trial of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney

A play by Shirley Golub (Impeachment Candidate challenging Pelosi)
May 30 & 31 , 8 pm (Friday and Saturday nights!)
International Studies Academy theater
655 De Haro St., San Francisco)

Details and tickets available at Shirley Golub's 
website For a free ticket- type in the code- "alert."

(This is a great play. I brought Deception 
Dollars to the event and people loved them- I ran 
out and people stood in line to get them!)

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Mon May 26 17:44:59 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:44:59 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Impeachment Slate Press Conf.
 tomorrow/ Impeachment play
Message-ID: <483B598B.3050607@freeshell.org>

Carol,  I'd like to, but I've got too much on my platter tomorrow. 
Also, I've seen the very good play.

Fred


If Impeachment Activists could come with me to
San Francisco tomorrow, I'd really appreciate it.

#1)Press Conference for California Impeachment
Slate Candidates, Tues, May 27th - noon, San
Francisco Chronicle , 901 Mission @ corner of 5th, SF
#2) "I", The Impeachment Trial of George W. Bush
and Richard B. Cheney, A play,  Fri. & Sat., May
30 & 31 , 8 pm , 655 De Haro St, San Francisco

#2)Press Conference for California Impeachment Slate Candidates
Tues, May 27th - noon
In front of San Francisco Chronicle offices, 901 Mission @ corner of 5th

SAN FRANCISCO: "One year ago in Detroit," says
congressional candidate Brad Newsham, "Detroit
City Council member Monica Conyers performed an
outrage-ous act of political courage. Even though
her husband, John Conyers -- chair of the House
Judiciary Committee and one of America?" most
powerful politicians " is staunchly
anti-impeachment, Ms. Conyers introduced a
pro-impeachment resolution that the Detroit
council unanimously approved. Now we?'re asking
her to step up again. We want her to run for her husband's seat in 
Congress."
In some twenty districts across California,
challengers are taking on the state's incumbents.
In San Franciso, Cindy Sheehan and Shirley Golub
are challenging Nancy Pelosi. Newsham, organizer
of the Beach Impeach events (below), is
challenging Barbara Lee in the East Bay. On
Tuesday, several of them will gather in San
Francisco to publicize their slate and their invitation to Monica Conyers.

In addition to an Impeachment Slate for
California Candidates, there are growing numbers
of candidates forming a national coalition of
Impeachment Candidates- the New Broom Coalition
with the same imperative- Impeachment.

- Candidates planning to attend, with incumbents
they're challenging in parentheses: Shirley Golub
(Nancy Pelosi, June Primary); Cindy Sheehan
(Pelosi, November General Election); Brad Newsham
(Barbara Lee, June); Cynthia Papermaster (Pete
Stark, Nov.); Ed Newman (Lynne Woolsey); Ann
Catherine Keirns (Zoe Lofgren); Carol Brouillet
(Anna Eshoo, Nov.); Carol Wolman (Mike Honda, Nov.)

[I could really use some support and help,
especially holding banners- "Impeach the
Terrorists!" and our beautiful key sign with
"9/11 Truth = Peace symbol, and Impeach = Justice
symbol, and to pass out literature and Deception
Dollars. I can carry 4 more people from Palo Alto
Carol Brouillet, 650-857-0927]


#3) "I", The Impeachment Trial of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney

A play by Shirley Golub (Impeachment Candidate challenging Pelosi)
May 30 & 31 , 8 pm (Friday and Saturday nights!)
International Studies Academy theater
655 De Haro St., San Francisco)

Details and tickets available at Shirley Golub's
website For a free ticket- type in the code- "alert."

(This is a great play. I brought Deception
Dollars to the event and people loved them- I ran
out and people stood in line to get them!)


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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Mon May 26 22:10:30 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:10:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Impeachment Slate Press Conf.
 tomorrow/ Impeachment play
In-Reply-To: <483B598B.3050607@freeshell.org>
References: <483B598B.3050607@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <2703.38.99.84.36.1211865030.squirrel@www.greens.org>

If it weren't for not feeling well enough I'd so be there.  Thank you
Carol for doing this!!!


Green is Core!

Drew

On Mon, May 26, 2008 17:44, Fred Duperrault wrote:
> Carol,  I'd like to, but I've got too much on my platter tomorrow.
> Also, I've seen the very good play.
>
> Fred
>
>
> If Impeachment Activists could come with me to
> San Francisco tomorrow, I'd really appreciate it.
>
> #1)Press Conference for California Impeachment
> Slate Candidates, Tues, May 27th - noon, San
> Francisco Chronicle , 901 Mission @ corner of 5th, SF
> #2) "I", The Impeachment Trial of George W. Bush
> and Richard B. Cheney, A play,  Fri. & Sat., May
> 30 & 31 , 8 pm , 655 De Haro St, San Francisco
>
> #2)Press Conference for California Impeachment Slate Candidates
> Tues, May 27th - noon
> In front of San Francisco Chronicle offices, 901 Mission @ corner of 5th
>
> SAN FRANCISCO: "One year ago in Detroit," says
> congressional candidate Brad Newsham, "Detroit
> City Council member Monica Conyers performed an
> outrage-ous act of political courage. Even though
> her husband, John Conyers -- chair of the House
> Judiciary Committee and one of America?" most
> powerful politicians " is staunchly
> anti-impeachment, Ms. Conyers introduced a
> pro-impeachment resolution that the Detroit
> council unanimously approved. Now we?'re asking
> her to step up again. We want her to run for her husband's seat in
> Congress."
> In some twenty districts across California,
> challengers are taking on the state's incumbents.
> In San Franciso, Cindy Sheehan and Shirley Golub
> are challenging Nancy Pelosi. Newsham, organizer
> of the Beach Impeach events (below), is
> challenging Barbara Lee in the East Bay. On
> Tuesday, several of them will gather in San
> Francisco to publicize their slate and their invitation to Monica Conyers.
>
> In addition to an Impeachment Slate for
> California Candidates, there are growing numbers
> of candidates forming a national coalition of
> Impeachment Candidates- the New Broom Coalition
> with the same imperative- Impeachment.
>
> - Candidates planning to attend, with incumbents
> they're challenging in parentheses: Shirley Golub
> (Nancy Pelosi, June Primary); Cindy Sheehan
> (Pelosi, November General Election); Brad Newsham
> (Barbara Lee, June); Cynthia Papermaster (Pete
> Stark, Nov.); Ed Newman (Lynne Woolsey); Ann
> Catherine Keirns (Zoe Lofgren); Carol Brouillet
> (Anna Eshoo, Nov.); Carol Wolman (Mike Honda, Nov.)
>
> [I could really use some support and help,
> especially holding banners- "Impeach the
> Terrorists!" and our beautiful key sign with
> "9/11 Truth = Peace symbol, and Impeach = Justice
> symbol, and to pass out literature and Deception
> Dollars. I can carry 4 more people from Palo Alto
> Carol Brouillet, 650-857-0927]
>
>
> #3) "I", The Impeachment Trial of George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney
>
> A play by Shirley Golub (Impeachment Candidate challenging Pelosi)
> May 30 & 31 , 8 pm (Friday and Saturday nights!)
> International Studies Academy theater
> 655 De Haro St., San Francisco)
>
> Details and tickets available at Shirley Golub's
> website For a free ticket- type in the code- "alert."
>
> (This is a great play. I brought Deception
> Dollars to the event and people loved them- I ran
> out and people stood in line to get them!)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue May 27 07:34:17 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:34:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Green Party Newspaper - Call for Articles
	TODAY!
Message-ID: <1263.38.99.84.36.1211898857.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Green Party Newspaper - Call for Articles TODAY!
From:    "don.boring" <don.boring at gmail.com>
Date:    Tue, May 27, 2008 05:21
To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

*PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY...*

Now is the time to submit your ideas
in return email for articles and pictures
for the July issue of Green Focus, the
newspaper of the State of California Green Party.

Due date for articles and pictures is Monday June 9th.
If you have an event coming up that is after this, please
let me know and we might make accomodations.

Topics can and should include...


Stories on Green campaigns for public office.
This should include ANYONE who is managing
or running a campaign for public office.
WE NEED PEOPLE to write HOW TO stories
of how to sign up to run for office, collect signatures
to run and how to manage a campaign.

We need someone to step up with this article TODAY!

Recent successful Green Party gatherings
you have hosted or attended, who spoke,
how many attended and what the greater
significance was.

Citizen Campaigns to save Green Space
or other important issues.

People who are making a difference.

Tabling adventures in Registering new Greens.

Opinion pieces on the 2008 election, the Nader
or Mckinney campaigns, the spoiler factor or
issues you think need to be addressed and are not.

Book or movie reviews.

Please send a return email to me RIGHT NOW and
tell me what stories you can offer.  We now have a
new printer that allows us to print many more copies
of the paper than before.  We have an excellent opportunity
to make this paper a viable media piece for Greens in California
but we need your help.  Please respond today...

Don Boring, Editor and Designer
Green Focus Newspaper of the GPCA
Glendora, CA. USA
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Wed May 28 10:14:51 2008
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Article
Message-ID: <55195.71374.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

                                      BECOMING A CANDIDATE
   
       On the evening of the California primary election, I accidentally stepped into the world of Green politics for the first time.
       I had received a postcard inviting me to a Green Party party where, I was assured, I would actually get to see Green results. As this sounded like a lot more fun than sitting at home, gnashing my teeth over only getting results for Democrats and Republicans, I went.
  In the course of the evening, I met several very nice Green people, one of whom subsequently talked me into running for Green Party County Council.
       I had absolutely no experience running for anything. I was given several petition sheets and a list of names and addresses of Green Party voters in my city and told I had to gather enough signaures on petitions to qualify to be put on the ballot--in about two weeks.
       I didn't think that I could walk up to the doors of strangers and ask them to sign my petition. I wanted to call first. My list had almost 400 names, not in alphabetical order, or even grouped by zip code, and no phone numbers. I went through the list, highlighting the names in my zip code. Then I tried to find them in the phone book. This reduced the size of my list to fifteen.
       Before I started calling these folks, I wrote down what I wanted to say: my name. that I was also a green Party member, and that I was collecting signatures to get on the ballot for Green Party County Council.Nearly all of the people were receptive. I think they were pleasantly surprised that I wasn't asking for money. I made appointments to go to their homes.
       I was really glad that I had called before going to see my first few people. It loosened me up, and it kept me from waking napping babies or disturbing people during dinner.
       I got to meet some lovely people in the course of collecting signatures. After I went to all my appointments, I was more confident, so I didn't mind knocking on doors cold. My first "cold knock"  turned out to be a young man who lived with his parents, who were not Green. His mother answered the door and was very surprised when I asked for her son. He was folding laundry as I spoke with him. He seemed proud, as he signed the petition, that a lady old enough to be his grandmother had come to ask him to do such an adult thing.
       Finding phone numbers and calling people was worth the effort--and saved gas. After my appointments, I knocked on the doors of a lot of people who had moved, more people who weren't home, and a few people who had changed their party affiliation before I had enough signatures.
       Going to the Registrar of Voters office to file the petitions and fill out the required forms was a relatively painless experience. And, when the ROV called the next day to say enough of my signatures were valid and I would be on the ballot, I felt really proud.   
       In less than a month, I had gone from being someone who knew only three other Green people to a full-fledged candidate.
   
  Caroline Yacoub
  Candidate
  Green Party County Council, Santa Clara County
   
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed May 28 18:54:53 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:54:53 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Pro-Impeachment Candidates have a press
	conferance in SF
Message-ID: <483E0CED.40509@aceweb.com>

A week before the California Congressional Primary, pro impeachment of 
the Bush Administration Congressional Candidates held a press conferance
in front of the San Francisco Chronicle on the sidewalk. See my take:

http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/Impeach/CandidatesMay08/index.html

I wish more Candidates had shown up. I find myself thinking that these
few are truly brave souls.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
5/26: I saw Hot Tomatoes and other jazz bands in Sacramento's Old Town.


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Wed May 28 21:40:56 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:40:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Pro-Impeachment Candidates have a press
	conferance in SF
Message-ID: <2002.38.99.84.36.1212036056.squirrel@www.greens.org>

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [G-C-F] Pro-Impeachment Candidates have a press conferance in SF
From:    "Tian Harter" <tnharter at aceweb.com>
Date:    Wed, May 28, 2008 18:54
To:      "Green CA forum" <cal-forum at cagreens.org>
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A week before the California Congressional Primary, pro impeachment of
the Bush Administration Congressional Candidates held a press conferance
in front of the San Francisco Chronicle on the sidewalk. See my take:

http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/Impeach/CandidatesMay08/index.html

I wish more Candidates had shown up. I find myself thinking that these
few are truly brave souls.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
5/26: I saw Hot Tomatoes and other jazz bands in Sacramento's Old Town.
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From andid at cagreens.org  Tue May 27 12:27:58 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:27:58 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Angry San Martin Seeks Freedom
Message-ID: <71E665CA-1DB3-4790-83DF-C16C39D48DA0@cagreens.org>

Wes,
Please advise.

Page 15 of May 21-27 Metro News section discusses angry city  
residents and members of the San Martin Neighborhood Alliance who are  
tying to incorporate surrounding agricultural lands (presently  
outside the city boundaries) and make San Martin "its own self- 
governing city."  But what they want for the ag lands is a mix of  
small farms, some estate homes, produce markets, and commercial  
businesses that "cater to a rural, farming community."

The lands are part of SC County and are being used for junkyards,  
dumps, run-down businesses?or are being approved for an expansion of  
the airport, a huge seafood distribution plant, a metal-box storage  
company, and more junkyards.

The fight is going on in LAFCO hearings; SJCC member Pete Constant is  
a swing vote, Bd of Sup Don Gage is in favor, and  SJCC member  
("liberal"?) Linda Le Zotte is against.

While the San Martin group claims to want to protect these lands from  
developers and county abuse, it's interesting to note a comment by  
Brian Schmidt of the Palo Alto Committee for Green Foothills:  "There  
are a lot of pitfalls to this."

Are you in favor of incorporation?
Andi
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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu May 29 08:28:34 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:28:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] FW: Green Party Newspaper - Call for Articles
	TODAY!
In-Reply-To: <1263.38.99.84.36.1211898857.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <1263.38.99.84.36.1211898857.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <7B9D65A9-C312-4378-AC61-577840978690@cagreens.org>

We need a "spoiler" article that debunks the whole idea of spoiling!!!
Desperately!
Then Greens can talk responsibly and sensibly to voters about how  
POWERFUL a third party vote is!!
Otherwise, we are going to take another trashing from the two majors  
and our own members who support Demos whenever they are in trouble  
(when aren't they?).
Andi

On May 27, 2008, at 7:34 AM, Drew Johnson wrote:

> ---------------------------- Original Message  
> ----------------------------
> Subject: Green Party Newspaper - Call for Articles TODAY!
> From:    "don.boring" <don.boring at gmail.com>
> Date:    Tue, May 27, 2008 05:21
> To:      undisclosed-recipients:;
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ----
>
> *PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY...*
>
> Now is the time to submit your ideas
> in return email for articles and pictures
> for the July issue of Green Focus, the
> newspaper of the State of California Green Party.
>
> Due date for articles and pictures is Monday June 9th.
> If you have an event coming up that is after this, please
> let me know and we might make accomodations.
>
> Topics can and should include...
>
>
> Stories on Green campaigns for public office.
> This should include ANYONE who is managing
> or running a campaign for public office.
> WE NEED PEOPLE to write HOW TO stories
> of how to sign up to run for office, collect signatures
> to run and how to manage a campaign.
>
> We need someone to step up with this article TODAY!
>
> Recent successful Green Party gatherings
> you have hosted or attended, who spoke,
> how many attended and what the greater
> significance was.
>
> Citizen Campaigns to save Green Space
> or other important issues.
>
> People who are making a difference.
>
> Tabling adventures in Registering new Greens.
>
> Opinion pieces on the 2008 election, the Nader
> or Mckinney campaigns, the spoiler factor or
> issues you think need to be addressed and are not.
>
> Book or movie reviews.
>
> Please send a return email to me RIGHT NOW and
> tell me what stories you can offer.  We now have a
> new printer that allows us to print many more copies
> of the paper than before.  We have an excellent opportunity
> to make this paper a viable media piece for Greens in California
> but we need your help.  Please respond today...
>
> Don Boring, Editor and Designer
> Green Focus Newspaper of the GPCA
> Glendora, CA.  
> USA<untitled-2>_______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 29 10:08:13 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:08:13 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] sjpc calendar
Message-ID: <483EE2FD.8090707@sbcglobal.net>

Details of the activities listed below are at
sjpc at sanjosepeace.org

*Thurs., May 29--Commemoration of the Palestinian Nakba--Palo Alto
Thurs., May 29--Film showing - ?When the Levees Broke?--San Jose
Fri., May 30--SJPJC study group - ?The Shock Doctrine in Latin 
America?--San Jose
Fri., May 30--Fundraiser: Summer Speaking Series - Mexicano Human 
Rights, From SanJo to the Global!--San Jose
Sat., May 31--Dramatic Reading: "The Story of Rachel Corrie"--Santa Cruz
*Sat., May 31--* *Film: "USA vs. Al-Arian"--Fremont*
Tues., June 3--Film and Speaker: "Stealing America: Vote by Vote"--Palo 
Alto
*Fri., June 6--Fundraiser: "Cambodia: Steps toward Genocide and Steps to 
Stop It"--San Jose
*Sun., June 8--Concert: "Peace and Freedom Flowering for Two 
Decades"*--San Jose
*
*


From wrolley at charter.net  Thu May 29 10:43:39 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:43:39 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Angry San Martin Seeks Freedom
In-Reply-To: <71E665CA-1DB3-4790-83DF-C16C39D48DA0@cagreens.org>
References: <71E665CA-1DB3-4790-83DF-C16C39D48DA0@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <483EEB4B.70905@charter.net>

This is  a case where every one lies and everyone is taking the position 
of getting all they can from the process and who cares about the citizens.

To start with, the San Martin Neighborhood Alliance has gone forward 
with a significant amount of falsified information (economic projections 
without substantiation, lists of "supporters" where the "supporter" did 
not know that they had signed on to anything and, in fact, opposed 
incorporation.  As for the economic projections, the Neighborhood 
Alliance hired an "independent" consultant, fed their own (IMO) overly 
optimistic assumptions  to the consultant and then were happy when the 
consultant parroted them back.

The County Government has taken the position that incorporation is a net 
loss or revenue to the county government and thus must be recovered.

Even the Arts Council of Silicon Valley has opposed the annexation in 
that they might lose the Transient Occupancy (hotel) Tax that is a major 
source of their funding coming from the CordeValle golf club / resort.

There is a lot of good information here. http://www.santaclara.lafco.ca.gov/

I would also suggest reading this letter to the editor as an example of 
the ongoing sloppiness throughout the process: Neighborhood Alliance, 
County Planning Department, etc. as well as the political considerations 
that influence the supervisors. 
http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/233694-supervisor-plays-both-sides-and-doesnt-have-his-facts-straight

Basically, I would favor incorporation, but only after all of the 
potential problems are resolved including full, truthful statements from 
the Neighborhood Alliance.



Andrea Dorey wrote:

> Wes,
> Please advise.
>
> Page 15 of May 21-27 Metro News section discusses angry city residents 
> and members of the San Martin Neighborhood Alliance who are tying to 
> *incorporate* surrounding agricultural lands (presently outside the 
> city boundaries) and make San Martin "its own self-governing city."  
> But what they want for the ag lands is a mix of small farms, *some 
> estate home*s, produce markets, and *commercial businesses* that 
> "cater to a rural, farming community."
>
> The lands are part of SC County and are being used for junkyards, 
> dumps, run-down businesses?or are being approved for an expansion of 
> the airport, a huge seafood distribution plant, a metal-box storage 
> company, and more junkyards.
>
> The fight is going on in LAFCO hearings; SJCC member Pete Constant is 
> a swing vote, Bd of Sup Don Gage is in favor, and  SJCC member 
> ("liberal"?) Linda Le Zotte is against.
>
> While the San Martin group claims to want to protect these lands from 
> developers and county abuse, it's interesting to note a comment by 
> Brian Schmidt of the Palo Alto Committee for Green Foothills:  "There 
> are a lot of pitfalls to this."
>
> Are you in favor of incorporation?
> Andi


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu May 29 12:01:34 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:01:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election night party at Tian's!
Message-ID: <483EFD8E.40904@aceweb.com>

For weeks I've been telling people that I was having an election night 
party. I finally got the paperwork filed to rent the room and put an
announcement on my website, with directions and specifics. See it at:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/638PartyAnoucement.html

If you're in the area come on down. At the least you will be one of the 
first to know who won Santa Clara County's Green Party County Council
contest. You might even get to hear a few victory and concession speeches!
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added pro impeachment press conference report.


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Thu May 29 17:29:26 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:29:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Impeachment is KEY (and so is Green Economics),
	(was re: Myths...)
In-Reply-To: <483EE1F9.3010501@charter.net>
References: <20080529155141.16144.qmail@truffula.sj.ca.us>
	<483EE1F9.3010501@charter.net>
Message-ID: <3565.38.99.84.36.1212107366.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Wes wrote:
"If we want real change, we need to spend more time on Green Economics and
less time on impeachment, how ever much warranted the latter may be and
how ever good it would make us all feel to see Cheney on trial. "

That's a false dichotomy if I ever saw one.  The people who are motivated
to work on impeachment are mostly NOT the same ones who work on Green
Economics (although Carol Brouillet is an interesting exception since she
happens to work on both these issues).

Hey now Wes, knock it off with knocking those of us who see the big
picture and wish to restore some semblance of constitutional democracy to
America.  Impeachment is order #1.  Without the rule of law we ain't got
squat.  And besides, some people (like me) are always going to be more
inclined to focus on constitutional issues and no one should discourage
us, just as it would be wrong for us to discourage folks that are more
inclined to work on environmental policy from doing their work.  Each must
do the work they feel called to do and none should put down others for
doing the work they are called to do.

Otherwise you yourself are falling for the 'spoiler myth' or 'zero sum
game mythology' in your own way -- you're supporting the myth that a party
can't accomplish more than one thing at a time.  Well if we Greens are
ever to bring about a true multiparty democracy in America that is
governed by the constitution and run under the rule of law AND has a sane
Green economic policy, we Greens will have to extend the trust to other
Greens for them to work in their own area of passion/expertise even as we
do ours.  No one person can 'specialize' in all the areas that need
addressing, and since Green = networked organization the Green Party will
end up being particularly well-suited for addressing the multiplicity of
needs of America in the 21st Century.



Green IS the Network!

Drew


Wes wrote:
If we want real change, we need to spend more time on Green Economics and
less time on impeachment, how ever much warranted the latter may be and
how ever good it would make us all feel to see Cheney on trial.


On Thu, May 29, 2008 10:03, Wes Rolley wrote:
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
> <html>
> <head>
>   <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>   <title></title>
> </head>
> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
> Cameron's comments are very accurate.&nbsp; In fact, economist Bryan
> Caplan
> wrote a fairly recent (2007) book entitled <u>The Myth of the Rational
> Voter</u>.&nbsp; In it, he shows that time and again voters act based on
> their preferences for beliefs over facts.&nbsp; In his research, Capan
> finds
> 4 areas of bias in the electorate that cause problems.&nbsp; As he
> subtitles
> his book: Why Democracies choose bad policies.&nbsp; <br>
> <br>
> The area of bias are:<br>
> <b>anti-foreign Bias</b> - think the immigration laws.<br>
> <b><br>
> Make-work Bias</b> - &#8220;tendency to underestimate the economic
> benefits
> from conserving
> labor.&#8221; (p40) People tend to equate economic growth with job
> creation,
> even if those jobs are wasteful or outright detrimental to growth. <br>
> Greens fall into this very easily, with near automatic support for
> labor unions.&nbsp; We need, however, to learn to treat every situation as
> a
> separate instance as my experiences with unions have been universally
> negative:&nbsp; crime (Teamsters), corruption and putting the growth of
> the
> union ahead of the needs of the workers (NY Public Service). Greens
> lack a common understanding of economic realities, a sense of what
> really makes a Green Economy.<br>
> <b><br>
> Pessimistic Bias</b> - he defines that as a&nbsp; &#8220;tendency to
> overestimate
> the severity of economic problems and
> underestimate the (recent) past, present, and future performance of the
> economy.&#8221;&nbsp; While historical data seems to say that Caplan is
> correct,
> Greens again lack a sound economic alternative for their criticism of
> capitalism and thus are left with only a very anarchistic
> anti-corporate stance with no offsetting positive policies. <br>
> <br>
> <b>Anti-Market Bias</b> - Casplan defines this as a &#8220;tendency to
> underestimate the benefits of the market mechanism.&#8221;&nbsp; Most
> Greens do
> not have much faith in the "market" but, unfortunately, they also have
> not defined the alternative.&nbsp; In fact, the idea of community based
> sustainable economies actually requires some market mechanism. <br>
> <br>
> Whether you believe that Caplan is correct or not, that discussion
> should be based on fact, data, science, intellectual pursuit and not
> unsubstantiated beliefs.&nbsp; Too many of the far left progressive
> persuasion have not done their homework. <br>
> <br>
> I really want to see a better definition of the Green Economy.&nbsp; The
> best that I have come across is that of Canadian Brian Milani.&nbsp; You
> can
> find them at Green Economics dot Net. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
> href="http://www.greeneconomics.net/">http://www.greeneconomics.net/</a><br>
> <br>
> This is the year when economic issues, especially the price of gas,
> will make a significant difference in the presidential election and we
> do not have a party wide consensus as to what green economics even
> means.&nbsp;&nbsp; It is much more that protesting Chevron for high
> gasoline
> prices.&nbsp; If that is all we do, then we give away the game because the
> answer is just drill more, refine more.&nbsp; If we want real change, we
> need to spend more time on Green Economics and less time on
> impeachment, how ever much warranted the latter may be and how ever
> good it would make us all feel to see Cheney on trial. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
> href="mailto:cls at truffula.sj.ca.us">cls at truffula.sj.ca.us</a> wrote:
> <blockquote cite="mid:20080529155141.16144.qmail at truffula.sj.ca.us"
>  type="cite"><br>
>   <pre wrap="">Trouble is, "the spoiler effect" is a superstition.
> It works by faith, not reason.  It's therefore impervious
> to reasonable argument.  You can debunk it all you want,
> with no effect.  Almost everyone believes they live in a
> swing state or district.  Statistics showing legistlature seats
> hardly ever switch parties have no effect on that belief, because
> it's faith not reason.  Debunking the swing state belief is a waste
> of effort.  An article on strategies for avoiding the issue
> or working around it might be useful.
>
>
> Cameron
>
>
>   </pre>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> <br>
> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="80">--
> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then
> you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
>
> Wes Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
> href="http://www.refpub.com/">http://www.refpub.com/</a> -- Tel:
> 408.778.3024</pre>
> </body>
> </html>
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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May 30 00:24:38 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] I support Paul Fong for Assembly
Message-ID: <2403.38.99.84.36.1212132278.squirrel@www.greens.org>

I met Paul Fong on the Freedom train up to SF on MLK day a couple years
back .  Paul is a Dem, but fairly (small 'g') green.  I actually talked to
him about the Green Party.  At some point if we become impressive enough
he may be interested I think.  He's a little more reserved in his
progressiveness than I would prefer, but over all I like his personality
and think he'd make a good Assembly person.  Below's a note from Dem Lynn
Huidekoper whom Jim D., Fred and I work with on the Single Payer
healthcare initiative.  She says she likes Caserta too but prefers Fong. 
Please try to forgive me for including her Dem stuff in this posting...


Green is Connection!

Drew

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Help Paul Fong get elected-race is tight!
From:    "Lynn Huidekoper" <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Date:    Mon, May 26, 2008 14:47
To:      lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


This is from the President of my Dem. club, Jon Kessler. I saw Dominic
Caserta at a Candidates Forum last Thursday evening. He is enthusiastic,
very articulate about all the issues, very much a supporter of 840(had
some great answers about it), impressive for a high school teacher. I met
several of his campaign staff at the forum and he's running a good
campaign. The endorsement by CNA will influence folks to vote for him if
they haven't heard the other candidates.However I support Paul and have
donated to his campaign. If you can help with the GOTV activities listed
below that would be great. Although Sally's shoes will be hard to fill
Paul is the best one to do so.Lynn


To: pdc_dems at yahoogroups.comFrom: jkessler71 at hotmail.comDate: Mon, 26 May
2008 21:07:16 +0000Subject: [pdc_dems]



Hello Friends, I'm celebrating my Memorial Day by exercising my freedom to
influence our political process - and I hope you'll join me this week. The
California Democratic Party, the Sierra Club, NOW, Congressmembers Anna
Eshoo, Mike Honda and Zoe Lofgren, State Senators Joe Simitian, Byron Sher
(ret) and John Vasconcellos (ret), Assemblymembers Ira Ruskin, Sally
Lieber and Jim Beall have all endorsed PDC member Paul Fong for Assembly,
and he needs your help to win on June 3. We have reason to believe the
outcome of this race could be determined by a handful of votes, and that
it will be close. Please plan now to help us Get Out the Vote in this
final week before the election. If you're a vote-by-mail voter, please
mail in your completed ballot as soon as possible if you haven't already.
Your ballot must be RECEIVED by the Registrar of Voters by the time the
polls close on Tuesday June3. It is not enough to have it postmarked by
June 3 - any ballots received after 8 pm on June 3 will not be counted.
This means, to be on the safe side, that you should mail your ballot by
Friday, or else hand-carry the ballot to a polling place on Tuesday. Ways
to Help Out The campaign would like help with many kinds of activities
between now and the close of polls on June 3, at all hours. Some are
active and require walking and talking; others are more sedentary, like
putting on labels or driving a car. Please take time to volunteer today
and through close of polls on June 3rd:  at the Paul Fong for Assembly
campaign office located at 465 N. Wolfe Rd, Sunnyvale, CA94085 Tel:
408-746-2016 Website www.paulfong.org  Wednesday May 28 - Phone Banking 
from 5-9PM there will be a phone bank at the Paul Fong for Assembly
campaign office located at 465 N. Wolfe Rd, Sunnyvale, CA94085 Tel:
408-746-2016 Website www.paulfong.org  from 6-9PM there will be a phone
bank at the home of Tamara and Steven Colby 929 Marilyn Dr (located off of
Miramonte Ave)Mountain View, CAIf you're too pressed for time to help out,
please consider making a contribution to the Fong campaign at
www.paulfong.org If you have any time through June 3rd to volunteer,
please contact Howard at 408-746-2016 with your availability. Thanks for
all you do! Jon KesslerPresidentPeninsula Democratic Coalition




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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Fri May 30 00:50:34 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:50:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] I vote Otto Lee for County Supervisor
Message-ID: <2515.38.99.84.36.1212133834.squirrel@www.greens.org>

I've watched Otto Lee in action a little bit in Sunnyvale where he's been
the Mayor for the past year.  I don't feel like I know enough to make a
full on endorsement of him, but I think I'll vote for him.  His web site
is pretty good, so you can make more of a judgment on him for yourself... 
I like that he emphasizes on his web site that he's a committed
environmentalist (claims to have been known as the ?Green Mayor? of
Sunnyvale -- that might be pushing it a bit, but I know he's known to be
active on environmental issues) and that he's served as board chair of the
nonprofit agency ACT for Mental Health.

http://www.ottolee.org


Green is Connection!

Drew



From mkmusic at greens.org  Fri May 30 01:41:19 2008
From: mkmusic at greens.org (Merriam Kathaleen)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 01:41:19 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [SVIC] This Sat. 5/31 the corner of Stevens
 Creek and Wichester Blvd., San Jose] A REMINDER!!!
Message-ID: <483FBDAF.5070809@greens.org>

Hi All,

This is a reminder, please join us if you can.

Merriam
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From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Fri May 30 07:47:20 2008
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:47:20 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] I vote Dave Cortese for County Supervisor (3rd
	District)
Message-ID: <024d01c8c264$10d594d0$6401a8c0@INTERBIKE06>

Drew's posting for Otto Lee prompts this response.  It's a letter to the
Milpitas Post that was published a few weeks ago.

Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters
408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN!
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---
 
Letter to Editor of the Milpitas Post

The Chamber of Commerce deserves our thanks for bringing the candidates
for County Supervisor together in a public forum.  Although I attended
with a favorite already in mind, I was pleased to see how blessed we are
with these three candidates.

Our Mayor Esteves brings a sense of ethics and enthusiasm for our city
and valley to the contest.  He comes across as a nice guy with his heart
in the right place.  I respect his willingness to champion Milpitas.

Sunnyvale Councilman Otto Lee is young (40) and energetic.  I'm
impressed by his openness to new and innovative ideas.  His background,
which includes a stretch with the Navy, is surprisingly broad.  If he
misses in this election, I hope to get another opportunity to vote for
him.

This year, however, I'll vote for San Jose vice-mayor Dave Cortese.
Although long experience in elected office is often a negative in my
book, Dave's strategic experience, expertise, and dedication will serve
us well over the next few years.  Besides his many years on the San Jose
City Council, he spent several years as Board of Education member and
VTA Board member - both key areas to creating a high quality of life.
More importantly, perhaps, he has extensive regional experience (ABAG
and MTC) that could prove valuable in funneling federal infrastructure
funds into our County.  

My initial inclination to support Dave arose because his wife often
attends an interfaith church that I hold dear.  Then, at his campaign
kick-off meeting, I sensed his humility and dedication to the people and
environment of this valley.  It inspired me to walk a precinct for him.
At the Democracy Cafe, his commitment to neighborhood associations was
apparent.  Now, after seeing him at the candidates forum, I'll even
planning make campaign phone calls on his behalf (my apologies in
advance for those of you who dislike receiving them).

With three strong candidates, it is unlikely that one will emerge with
50% of the vote - and be declared the winner.  More likely is that the
top two candidates will be forced into an expensive time-intensive
run-off in November.  Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) would save that
expense and delay, but we haven't implemented it yet.  Let me make a
suggestion.  If you think your candidate is the weakest of the three,
please vote for one of the stronger candidates.  With luck, one of them
could win in June, and start working toward implementing their goals
five months early.  Imagine the value of that headstart in these
fast-changing times.

Rob Means
1421 Yellowstone Avenue
Milpitas, CA  95035-6913
408-262-0420    rob.means at electric-bikes.com
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri May 30 09:24:01 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:24:01 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Environmental Economics and the Electorate
Message-ID: <48402A21.6090408@charter.net>

Dave Roberts at Grist Mill gets right to the heart of the problem in 
this post.  I would add to this that the Pacific Ocean off the West 
Coast of America has absorbed enough CO2 to raise the acidity level to 
the point where it can begin to dissolve and weaken oyster shells.

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/5/29/105757/723

__

Feel like you're just not depressed enough today? Read the last bit of 
this Dot Earth post 
<http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/nobel-winner-co2-going-to-1000-parts-per-million/>:

    During a break, I asked [Nobel prize-winning atmospheric chemist Dr.
    F. Sherwood] Rowland two quick questions. The first: Given the
    nature of the climate and energy challenges, what is his best guess
    for the peak concentration of carbon dioxide? ...

    His answer? "1,000 parts per million," he said.

    My second question was, what will that look like?

    "I have no idea," Dr. Rowland said. He was not smiling. 

What will a planet with 1,000 ppm of CO2 in its atmosphere look like? 
Worldchanging runs an excerpt 
<http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/006386.html> from Peter Ward's 
/Under a Green Sky: Global Warming, the Mass Extinctions of the Past, 
and What They Can Tell Us About Our Future/ 
<http://astore.amazon.com/gristmagazine/detail/006113791X>, wherein he 
describes just such a world, which actually existed toward end of the 
Triassic period:

    Waves slowly lap on the quiet shore, slow-motion waves with the
    consistency of gelatin. Most of the shoreline is encrusted with
    rotting organic matter, silk-like swathes of bacterial slick now
    putrefying under the blazing sun ... [W]e look out on the surface of
    the great sea itself, and as far as the eye can see there is a
    mirrored flatness, an ocean without whitecaps. Yet that is not the
    biggest surprise. From shore to the horizon, there is but an
    unending purple color -- a vast, flat, oily purple. No fish break
    its surface, no birds or any other kind of flying creatures dip down
    looking for food. The purple color comes from vast concentrations of
    floating bacteria, for the oceans of Earth have all become covered
    with a hundred-foot thick veneer of purple and green bacterial soup.
    ...There is one final surprise. We look upward, to the sky. ... We
    are under a pale green sky, and it has the smell of death and
    poison. We have gone to Nevada of 200 million years ago only to
    arrive under the transparent atmospheric glass of a greenhouse
    extinction event, and it is poison, heat and mass death that are
    found in this greenhouse.

In other words: 1,000 ppm will look like the end of industrial 
civilization and possibly the human race.

*But hey, let's stay focused on the /real/ problem: high gas prices!*

__
Now that last line will tell you much about the American Electorate that 
we have not yet convinced to "go Green."

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From wrolley at charter.net  Fri May 30 09:25:52 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:25:52 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Latest MH Times Column. - Climate change
 highlights importance of water conservation
Message-ID: <48402A90.6000701@charter.net>

*Climate change highlights importance of water conservation*
May 27, 2008
 By Wes Rolley <mailto:editor at morganhilltimes.com>

My wife and I have just started to eliminate all grass in my front yard 
with the intention of replacing it with permeable landscaping. By that I 
mean a mixture of walking paths and mulch, decorative as it can be, but 
natural material to prevent evaporative loss of the water that nature 
gives us. The reasons for doing this are simple.

Since November, I have served as co-chairman of an EcoAction Committee, 
Green Party US. While that fact may shape how you interpret what I 
write, I mention it because being in that role has caused me to spend 
more time trying to understand just what is really happening with global 
warming. The conclusions that global warming is real and that we have 
caused it are inescapable. The current CO2 accumulation in the 
atmosphere is significantly greater than at any time in the last 625 
thousand years and increasing at an unprecedented rate.

More importantly, I have had to take what I have learned and try to 
figure out how my new understandings should be used to governing what I 
do as an individual as well as what we collectively should be doing asa 
political, economic society. Some may welcome a general warming of the 
planet. It might mean that you could start producing extraordinary 
zinfandels in British Columbia, goodness if you are Canadian, but not if 
you are in California. If there is one segment of our economy that needs 
pay special attention to what really is happening, it is agriculture. 
Specifically, the type of crops that are economically viable on any 
given property will change. The mix of temperature, direct rainfall and 
availability of water for irrigation are going to change and with it 
agriculture must change if it wants to remain economically competitive.

Dr. Jonathan Overpeck is the director of the Institute for the Study of 
Planet Earth at the University of Arizona. He testified May 14 before 
the House Committee on Science and Technology that "The outlook for 
climate-related changes in U.S. water supply is not positive, 
particularly in the West, Southwest, Texas and into the Southeast."

We have experienced two years of below normal rainfall. If Overpeck is 
correct, we need to be acting as if these past two years are, at best, 
the new normal, or may even represent above normal rainfall. The 
implications of this may be profound. While I don't profess to be able 
to outline all of them, a few things are obvious. We need to make water 
conservation a habit of life, beginning now. That is the reason we are 
making the changes to our landscaping. There is not going to be a 
single, big thing that government can do to save us from ourselves. It 
will be the cumulative effect of millions of little decisions coalesced 
into habits that will save us from ourselves.

The timing of our change is fortuitous in that the Santa Clara Valley 
Water District is providing a rebate of up to $1,000 to defray the costs 
of these changes and the City of Morgan Hill will presently match that.

According to the formula, $75 will be paid for each 100 square feet of 
lawn that is converted up to $1,000 ($15 up to $2,000 in Morgan Hill.)

The Morgan Hill contribution to this program is up for renewal, and 
tentatively scheduled for action by the council in June. They should 
renew it as not doing so at this time would signal that water 
conservation is not longer a high priority. A seemingly small decision 
with costly consequences.

A second obvious fact is that the impacts of climate change need to 
become part of the long range planning for every water agency in the 
West. At least that effort is beginning on the California state level 
with a meeting recently of a state Water Plan Climate Change Technical 
Advisory Group. I will provide more on this as it becomes public.

Finally, we should have an expectation of higher water rates. I know 
that much of the opposition rhetoric in the last election focused on 
water rates and the fact that challengers to water district director 
Rosemary Kamei did not think that the district adequately controlled 
costs. I am not referring to that. It is a fact that the funding of 
public infrastructure, such as water systems, will have to change as 
individual usage drops. The infrastructure costs will continue to rise 
and have to be recovered from those who are using it less. We see the 
same thing with transportation where bridge costs remain flat or 
continue to rise while usage is declining due to gasoline prices.

While we have the right to expect the district to be managed 
effectively, we should not conclude that all rate increases are the 
result of poor cost management. It may be difficult for the public to 
sort this out. We need our newspapers, the Times, the Dispatch and the 
Mercury News to keep us adequately informed. But most of all, we need to 
be water wise.

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From fredd at freeshell.org  Fri May 30 16:52:32 2008
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:52:32 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: FYI: Green World Congress calls for elected
	UN body]
Message-ID: <48409340.40606@freeshell.org>

Dear Green Party Members,

This action by the Green World Congress, calling for a UN (elected) 
Parliamentary Assembly, is exactly what the Citizens for a UN People's 
Parliamentary Assembly (CUNPPA) Board, of Directors (Headquartered in 
San Francisco) is working for. 

I'm hoping the GPSCC, the GPCA and the GPUS will begin taking action to 
include this as a major part of the Green Party's Ten Values.

Probably 2/3 of the people in the world are pretty much politically 
disenfranchised.  Bringing  a vital element of democracy to the United 
Nations will be a big step on the way to attaining a more integrated, 
more stable, more safe, more just and more sustainable global community.

Fred D.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	FYI: Green World Congress calls for elected UN body
Date: 	Thu, 29 May 2008 23:24:21 -0700
From: 	Susan Zipp <suezipp at mcn.org>
To: 	Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org>



Dear Fred,

At our last board meeting you asked about the Green Party and their
endorsement of a UN Parliament.  This press release, from KDUN, will give
you the details and contact info.

See you Monday!
Sue

--------

Committee for a Democratic United Nations

PRESS RELEASE

Tuesday 6 May 2008 

Green World Congress calls for elected UN body
Parliamentary Assembly proposed to overcome "international democratic
deficit"

Sao Paulo/Berlin. The outcome statement of the second Global Greens Congress
adopted on 
4th May in Sao Paulo has called for "the establishment of a UN Parliamentary
Assembly" as 
one step to overcome the "international democratic deficit." "In the face of
global 
challenges such as climate change it is pretty clear that we need much more
effective 
international decision-making. This requires that the world's citizens are
better included 
in international institutions. Hence the proposal for a body composed of
elected 
representatives," said Senator Isabelle Durant, Secretary-General of the
Belgian party 
Ecolo, in Brasil. The congress assembled representatives of green parties
and movements 
from over 80 countries.

The leader of the Green Party of Canada, Elizabeth May, commented in Sao
Paulo that 
"governments mainly care about advancing their national interests. By
contrast, a UN 
Parliamentary Assembly could help to promote the global common interest."
"The resolution 
adopted by the congress underlines that the green movement is convinced that
a dialogue is 
needed on the notion of a bi-cameral system at the UN," May added.

The Committee for a Democratic U.N., an NGO specialized on the topic based
in Berlin, 
Germany, strongly welcomed the resolution. The Committee noted that the
Global Greens are 
the third major international party network to endorse the proposal of a UN
Parliamentary 
Assembly, following the Liberal International and the Socialist
International.

The support of the Global Greens adds momentum to an international campaign
for the 
establishment of a UN Parliamentary Assembly which was launched in April
2007. The 
campaign is backed by more than 450 members of parliament and over 100
non-governmental 
organizations from around the world. The Committee for a Democratic U.N.
acts as its 
international secretariat.


FOR MEDIA INTERVIEWS YOU MAY CONTACT:

Senator Isabelle Durant, Secretary-General, Ecolo,
Phone +32 81 22 78 71, Email isabelle.durant at ecolo.be

Didier Couernelle, Ecolo delegate at the congress,
Phone +32 2 410 59 56, Email didier.coeurnelle at gmail.com

Elizabeth May, Party leader, Canadian Greens,
Phone +1 613.240.8921, Email debra at greenparty.ca

Andreas Bummel, Executive Chairman, Committee for a Democratic U.N.,
Phone +27 827 610 979, Email bummel at kdun.org


MORE INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET:

2nd Global Greens Congress: http://www.globalgreens.org.br/
Committee for a Democratic UN: http://www.kdun.org/
Campaign for a UN Parliamentary Assembly: http://www.unpacampaign.org/





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From wrolley at charter.net  Sat May 31 06:33:54 2008
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 06:33:54 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 98 and 99
Message-ID: <484153C2.8010608@charter.net>

Vern Nelson is a Progressive Democrat and active blogger (also musician 
/ composer) from Orange County.

He has done a very good job of demolishing Prop 98 on the Orange Juice 
Blog.

http://orangejuiceblog.com/2008/05/sticking-a-fork-in-prop-98/

If is worth the read.

Wes

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sat May 31 07:59:16 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GL June: Two more Green Party Electoral Victories
Message-ID: <1389.38.99.84.36.1212245956.squirrel@www.greens.org>

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Subject: [usgp-media] Two more Green Party Electoral Victories
From:    "Green Party of the United States" <office at gp.org>
Date:    Sat, May 31, 2008 02:12
To:      usgp-media at lists.gp-us.org
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Help States achieve Ballot Access

Summer is here and its time to hit the streets to get the Green Party on
the ballot!  Now is the time to gather signatures and dollars to help our
ballot access efforts.

Virginia is working hard.  They need to collect 10,000 signatures by
August 22 and they have about half in hand.  Check out
http://vagreenparty.org/petitions.html to download petitions, get in touch
with the petition drive coordinators, and HELP THE Green Party of Virginia
achieve Ballot Access.

The Ballot Access Committee continues to try and raise funds to make more
grants to Virginia and other states.  Greens can make on-line donations at
 http://www.gp.org/committees/ballot/fundraising.shtml.  You can also find
a volunteer link to help with your State's petition drive or a neighboring
state.  The Green Party relies on word of mouth advertising so please use
the "Spread the Word" link on the same page.

Other states currently petitioning include:

Pennsylvania (25,000 signatures needed by August 1)
Iowa (1,500 signatures needed by August 15)
New Jersey (800 signatures needed by July 28)

We need as much help as possible in the following states:

Ohio (5,000 signatures needed by August 21)
Kansas (17,000 signatures needed by August 4)
Kentucky (5,000 signatures needed by September 2)

If you can contribute anything - any thing at all - to these state
petition drives please contact the Ballot Access Committee co-chairs: 
Brian Bittner (brian at brianbittner.org) or Phil Huckelberry
(phil.huckelberry at gmail.com)


Green Party Officeholder Interview:
Dan Robinson

 Dan Robinson was elected to the Takoma Park, Maryland City Council in
November of 2007.  Takoma Park is a city of approximately 18,000 that
boarders the District of Columbia.  Dan Robinson is one of six
councilmembers.  When we called him, he was actually in a City Council
meeting.  We caught up with him the next day.

GL: What was the hot topic of last night's City Council meeting?

DR: The budget.  It's not necessarily fascinating but passing a budget has
to be done.  We've been meeting with residents to try and figure out what
people really want.  I'm working with staff to look at sustainability
issues.  We have people scouring the streets of Takoma Park looking for
ways to save energy.

GL: What made you decide to run for City Council?

DR: I'd done a lot things - served on committees, local activism, worked
with Takoma Park businesspeople.  I got to know a lot of people.  I wanted
to find a way to hear all sides on important issues, not just my own side.

GL: What do you do professionally and how did it help you run for office?

DR: I followed an entrepreneurial path. I've been a computer programmer
and business manager for many years.  I sold my computer programming
business to my employees and built a small office building.  It's
definitely a green building - it's as low-impact as I could make it.  I
was exposed to the realities of government while organizing the
construction of the building.  I had to work through probably 25 different
bureaucracies.

GL: Tell us a little bit about your campaign.

DR: I had a lot of help from Greens, friends, and acquaintances.  My ward
is small - only about 3,000 people - and I was able to knock on every
door.  I held a number of coffees and meetings a few times a week. 
Raising about $2,000 was enough to send a mailing to every household and
post yard signs.

Two years ago, Takoma Park initiated Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) for city
elections.  Unfortunately, none of the races in November had more than two
candidates.  I thought about recruiting another candidate just so we could
see IRV in action.

GL: What has the hardest part of the experience been?

DR: People put a lot of expectations on you - some people project their
own frustrations onto you.  You have to be realistic about responding to
that.  With city matters on my mind all the time, sometimes my work
suffers.  My city council salary is $10,000 for what is basically a
half-time position.  Some people believe that City Council members ought
to be willing to work for free.  In some ways I agree, but for people who
have to make a living that would be hard.  If they had to do it for free,
only wealthy people could afford to hold office.  That's not the Green
way.

Q: What advice do you have for Greens thinking of running for office?

DR:  Get involved with community affairs.  It need to be done - just do
it.  Find a way to serve on committees as a volunteer, start something new
in town, and get to know as many people as you can.  Push for change
however you can.  Examine the budget.  Try to understand people's
motivations for why they ask for things.  People come to the council all
the time with problems they are dealing with.  We try to point that person
toward the appropriate staff member to get things resolved.  The question
we ask is "What can we do as a staff to make this person's life a little
easier?"


Two more Electoral Victories in May . . .
. . . bring Win-Rate to 61% for Year

Don Langrehr won his re-election to Blacksburg Town Council in  Montgomery
County. He finished second of five candidates for three seats  with 1,100
votes or 22.28%. This brings us to 18 wins out of 30 races for the year
maintaining a 60%  win rate for the Spring cycle.

In Lancaster, MA David Spanagel was elected as Town Moderator, . He ran
unopposed and received 328 votes or 97.04%. He used his modest $95 of
campaign contributions to send informative postcards out to about 25% of
the town's active voters. Every Postcard had the Green-Rainbow logo above
his name.

The Green Party has had 19 wins out of 31 races for the spring cycle with
a win rate of 61% so far this year. The Green Party currently has 230
elected officeholders.


Feedback wanted on New/Revised Platform Planks

The Green Party is different from the corporate parties and the difference
becomes obvious when reading the Platform.  The Platform is a dynamic
document voted on at the quadrennial convention and reveals the heart of
the party including further illumination of the ten key values.  Efforts
have been underway to revise and improve the 2004 Platform.

You can review new amendments to the 2004 Platform by going to the
following link:  http://www.gp.org/committees/platform/draft/work/. 
Please examine and submit to your State Committees for further
consideration.  All comments or objections can be submitted to the
Platform Committee until the final deadline of July 6th.

There are 4 chapters to the Platform.  One of the Platform Committee's
aims was to produce a tight Platform that candidates can use as a handy
reference, distribute at campaigns and give to other Greens.  Also, when
Greens go to events, forums, protests, etc. they can use the Platform to
recruit new Greens.

Some suggested new additions to Platform 2008 are 1) Labor - Greens
support the EFCA (Employees Free Choice Act) bill - passing through the
Congress; 2) Foreign Affairs. - Military.  See under Nuclear Weapons: 
Greens strongly oppose research and development of the US RRW (Reliable
Replacement Warhead).  In reality the RRW is a new nuclear weapon and not
in compliance with NPT; 3) Energy - (see in column 2 under Chapter III) an
upgraded as well as updated Energy plank; 4) Population - first time we
have had a plank on population other than Women's Right to Choose.  Some
of the changes have already proven to be controversial so please check on
the platform amendments to make sure you and your State can support the
revisions.

The editors of the draft are:

Chapter I:   Jenefer Ellingston  Jellingston at greens.org and Jane Zara
jjzara at aol.com

Chapter II:  Jack Ailey jjailey at comcast.net, John Ely
johnbethany at earthlink.net  and Gene Hunter hunter at pjsnet.de

Chapter III:   Wes Rolley wrolley at charter.net and Mike Ewall
catalyst at actionPA.org

Chapter IV:   Erik Douglas politicaltao at taotetao.com and Jon Olsen
joliyoka at gwi.net

You are encouraged to review the proposed changes and send comments or
objections to the Platform Committee editors listed above.  Also, please
distribute this article widely.



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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Sat May 31 10:06:56 2008
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:06:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 98 and 99
In-Reply-To: <484153C2.8010608@charter.net>
References: <484153C2.8010608@charter.net>
Message-ID: <484185B0.7090507@aceweb.com>

At the beginning of critical mass up in San Francisco yesterday there 
were people handing out NO ON 98 postcards. I saw cyclists with NO ON 98
signs on their bicycles. I'd say at least some San Francisco greens want
everybody to vote NO ON 98.

Wes Rolley wrote:
> Vern Nelson is a Progressive Democrat and active blogger (also musician 
> / composer) from Orange County.
> 
> He has done a very good job of demolishing Prop 98 on the Orange Juice 
> Blog.
> 
> http://orangejuiceblog.com/2008/05/sticking-a-fork-in-prop-98/
> 
> If is worth the read.
> 
> Wes
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
I participated in San Francisco's Critical Mass ride last evening.


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sat May 31 10:48:18 2008
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:48:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter
 Registration Report of 5/19/08
Message-ID: <1670.38.99.84.36.1212256098.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Please skip to the bottom if you just want to see all the numbers in table
form.

OUR NUMBERS:

Out of context, here's our numbers from the May 19th Secretary of State's
Report of Registration:

  Green: 4,611 people or 0.64% of all Registered Voters in Santa Clara Co.

Across the state the Green Party of CA is at 0.75% of total registration,
so we are running lower than that figure at 0.64% in our county.

Maybe a first (longer term) goal would be for us to break into what I'll
call the 'Second Tier' (10,000 or more registered) parties putting us on
par in numbers with the (ultraconservative) American Independent Party
(AIP).

[btw, for a taste of what the AIP is about here's an article about the
battle w/in the AIP to disaffiliate from the Constitution party and put
Alan Keyes on the AIP's ballot line in November.]
http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/01/ed-noonan-betrays-constitution-party/

What I'll term the 'First Tier' are parties with more than 100,000
registered voters.  We've got a ways to go there. :-)  How about let's set
our sights on the Second Tier to begin with and move from there.


ANALYZING SANTA CLARA'S ELIGIBLE TO REGISTEREDs FOR CLUES TO GROWING:

Firstly the total number of people Eligible to Register -- I'll call them
ERs -- in Santa Clara County is 1,107,353.  More than a 1.1 million
people!

(Note:'Eligible' (ERs) category does not include noncitizens, or citizens
who are minors or those currently on probation for or currently
incarcerated for felony offenses).

There are two major subcategories of ERs: Eligible but Aren't Registered)
-- I'll just call them EbARs, and Registered Voters -- I'll call RVs.

There are basically two groups to grow our registration numbers from.

1) Recruit from EbARs
(391,861 people or a whopping 35.39% of all eligible),

OR

2) Recruit from people who are what I'll whimsically dub 'Registered
PreGreens'  -- RPGs
(710,881 which is 64.19% of all eligible voters or 99.35% of the
registered voters).

Looking at the numbers, that makes the 3rd place slot in Santa Clara
'Decline to State' (ie. independent) makes up an eye-popping 24.90%.
So of the RPGs , the number of 'Decline to State' is a nice juicy
place to start recruiting.  When you come upon an RV (Registered Voter)
you have almost 1 in 4 chances that they are a 'Decline to State'.

The top three 'parties' then are #1 Democrats with nearly half 46.06%,
followed by Republicans at 25.61%, and Decline to State at 24.90%.  These
three 'parties' make up a full 96.57% of RVs (Registered Voters).

Take note that in Santa Clara our 'fourth party' is the very conservative
'American Independent' party (an affiliate of the national Constitution
party).  They break the 10,000 voters mark with 12,644 voters or 1.77% of
the total eligible voters.

We Greens are 5th followed closely by the (what I'll characterize as
'nonconformist small government conservative peacenik') Libertarian party
with the miscellaneous (probably mostly write-in names) 'Other' group and
finally the  socialist/marxist 'Peace and Freedom' trailing in last.

If I get the ambition I may put out thoughts on how we may appeal to each
of these different groups.


Green is Connection!

Drew

_____

Taken from the CA SoS's document
"Voter Participation Statistics by County and Party"
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_primary/05_voter_stats_by_party_feb08.pdf

Report of Registration as of May 19, 2008
Registration By County

County              Eligible        Registered

Santa Clara        1,107,353           715,492
                                         64.61%

FIRST TIER -- MORE THAN 100,000 VOTERS:

                                 Decline to
Democratic      Republican            State

   329,559         183,227        178,188
     46.06%          25.61%         24.90%

SECOND TIER -- MORE THAN 10,000 VOTERS:
 American
Independent

   12,644
     1.77%

THIRD TIER -- FEWER THAN 10,00 VOTERS:
                                                Peace and
   Green       Libertarian          Other         Freedom
   4,611             3,714          1,870           1,679
    0.64%             0.52%          0.26%           0.23%



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat May 31 11:42:18 2008
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:42:18 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] More re corporations and democracy
Message-ID: <48419C0A.2030509@earthlink.net>


"The Corporate State and the Subversion of Democracy"
by Chris Hedges


     http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/31/9331/



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 31 12:03:13 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:03:13 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tabling Juneteenth
Message-ID: <4841A0F1.9090902@sbcglobal.net>

This is a call for tablers on Saturday and Sunday June 14-th and 15-th
at the Juneteenth festival in downtown San Jose.

The organisers ask that we staff the tables from 10 am until 8 pm.

Yes, mark your calendars so that you will have some tabling time
that weekend and let me know which time slots you woud like to cover.




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 31 12:12:04 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:12:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 4-th of July tabling lead person (1)
Message-ID: <4841A304.4080407@sbcglobal.net>

We are committed ($225) to man a booth at the "America Festival"
for three days.

A lead person - not me this year - will be needed to coordinate the 
scheduling of
time slots, determining who will be doing set up, take down, literature 
inventory,
literature preparation, assuring that table and chairs will be available.

This is a reminder: I will not be available for this task this year.

Another person must take over these duties this year.

Jim Doyle


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 31 12:19:21 2008
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:19:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] gay pride parade
Message-ID: <4841A4B9.2070301@sbcglobal.net>

Marchers needed for the Gay Pride Parade on
Sunday June 15-th.

Who is going to march in the parade this year?

We had some enthusiasts in January.

Also, following the parade which is roughly from 11 am until noon,
you will have the opportunity to table at the Juneteenth festival by taking
a few extra steps over to the booth in Cesar Chavez park.



From eameece at california.com  Wed May 28 23:18:30 2008
From: eameece at california.com (E. Alan Meece)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:18:30 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] We're #5: Anaylzing Santa Clara's Voter	
	Registration Report of 5/19/08
References: <1670.38.99.84.36.1212256098.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <483E4AB6.D08@california.com>

Some things to keep in mind, though you probably know;

The only reason AIP has the numebrs they do is that people register with
them thinking they are registering "Independent."

The reason Decline to State is high and getting higher is that you can
vote in either primary now, which you can't do if you register Green.
Green numbers will continue to be low as long as the open primary
applies only to Decline to State voters. For a while it applied to
everyone, but I think the courts threw it out. It should be put back I
think.

That's quite a decline for Republicans; good! Given their record and
their ideology I think their only future should be to decline and pass
from the scene. Right now we have an extreme right party; a center-right
party that has some center-left people in it, independents, and a few
small parties. I hope this changes as Americans gruadually wake up from
their current ignorance and fear. This seems to be starting.

Eric M

Drew Johnson wrote:
> 
> Please skip to the bottom if you just want to see all the numbers in table
> form.
> 
> OUR NUMBERS:
> 
> Out of context, here's our numbers from the May 19th Secretary of State's
> Report of Registration:
> 
>   Green: 4,611 people or 0.64% of all Registered Voters in Santa Clara Co.
> 
> Across the state the Green Party of CA is at 0.75% of total registration,
> so we are running lower than that figure at 0.64% in our county.
> 
> Maybe a first (longer term) goal would be for us to break into what I'll
> call the 'Second Tier' (10,000 or more registered) parties putting us on
> par in numbers with the (ultraconservative) American Independent Party
> (AIP).
> 
> [btw, for a taste of what the AIP is about here's an article about the
> battle w/in the AIP to disaffiliate from the Constitution party and put
> Alan Keyes on the AIP's ballot line in November.]
> http://thirdpartywatch.com/2008/05/01/ed-noonan-betrays-constitution-party/
> 
> What I'll term the 'First Tier' are parties with more than 100,000
> registered voters.  We've got a ways to go there. :-)  How about let's set
> our sights on the Second Tier to begin with and move from there.
> 
> ANALYZING SANTA CLARA'S ELIGIBLE TO REGISTEREDs FOR CLUES TO GROWING:
> 
> Firstly the total number of people Eligible to Register -- I'll call them
> ERs -- in Santa Clara County is 1,107,353.  More than a 1.1 million
> people!
> 
> (Note:'Eligible' (ERs) category does not include noncitizens, or citizens
> who are minors or those currently on probation for or currently
> incarcerated for felony offenses).
> 
> There are two major subcategories of ERs: Eligible but Aren't Registered)
> -- I'll just call them EbARs, and Registered Voters -- I'll call RVs.
> 
> There are basically two groups to grow our registration numbers from.
> 
> 1) Recruit from EbARs
> (391,861 people or a whopping 35.39% of all eligible),
> 
> OR
> 
> 2) Recruit from people who are what I'll whimsically dub 'Registered
> PreGreens'  -- RPGs
> (710,881 which is 64.19% of all eligible voters or 99.35% of the
> registered voters).
> 
> Looking at the numbers, that makes the 3rd place slot in Santa Clara
> 'Decline to State' (ie. independent) makes up an eye-popping 24.90%.
> So of the RPGs , the number of 'Decline to State' is a nice juicy
> place to start recruiting.  When you come upon an RV (Registered Voter)
> you have almost 1 in 4 chances that they are a 'Decline to State'.
> 
> The top three 'parties' then are #1 Democrats with nearly half 46.06%,
> followed by Republicans at 25.61%, and Decline to State at 24.90%.  These
> three 'parties' make up a full 96.57% of RVs (Registered Voters).
> 
> Take note that in Santa Clara our 'fourth party' is the very conservative
> 'American Independent' party (an affiliate of the national Constitution
> party).  They break the 10,000 voters mark with 12,644 voters or 1.77% of
> the total eligible voters.
> 
> We Greens are 5th followed closely by the (what I'll characterize as
> 'nonconformist small government conservative peacenik') Libertarian party
> with the miscellaneous (probably mostly write-in names) 'Other' group and
> finally the  socialist/marxist 'Peace and Freedom' trailing in last.
> 
> If I get the ambition I may put out thoughts on how we may appeal to each
> of these different groups.
> 
> Green is Connection!
> 
> Drew
> 
> _____
> 
> Taken from the CA SoS's document
> "Voter Participation Statistics by County and Party"
> http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_primary/05_voter_stats_by_party_feb08.pdf
> 
> Report of Registration as of May 19, 2008
> Registration By County
> 
> County              Eligible        Registered
> 
> Santa Clara        1,107,353           715,492
>                                          64.61%
> 
> FIRST TIER -- MORE THAN 100,000 VOTERS:
> 
>                                  Decline to
> Democratic      Republican            State
> 
>    329,559         183,227        178,188
>      46.06%          25.61%         24.90%
> 
> SECOND TIER -- MORE THAN 10,000 VOTERS:
>  American
> Independent
> 
>    12,644
>      1.77%
> 
> THIRD TIER -- FEWER THAN 10,00 VOTERS:
>                                                 Peace and
>    Green       Libertarian          Other         Freedom
>    4,611             3,714          1,870           1,679
>     0.64%             0.52%          0.26%           0.23%
> 
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From andid at cagreens.org  Sat May 31 16:34:37 2008
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:34:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Pro-Impeachment Candidates have a press
	conferance in SF
In-Reply-To: <483E0CED.40509@aceweb.com>
References: <483E0CED.40509@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <D2A9FF3D-2A0C-4E9C-9E32-1931E176FA54@cagreens.org>

Bless Carol B?she always looks great: a candidate to be proud of!
Andi

On May 28, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> A week before the California Congressional Primary, pro impeachment of
> the Bush Administration Congressional Candidates held a press  
> conferance
> in front of the San Francisco Chronicle on the sidewalk. See my take:
>
> http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/Impeach/CandidatesMay08/index.html
>
> I wish more Candidates had shown up. I find myself thinking that these
> few are truly brave souls.
>
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> 5/26: I saw Hot Tomatoes and other jazz bands in Sacramento's Old  
> Town.
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From jims at greens.org  Sat May 31 18:19:50 2008
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:19:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sunday,
 June 15th--America's Muslim Political Prisoner,
 Dr. Sami Al Arian--  The Deepening Civil Rights Crisis]
Message-ID: <4841F936.6000700@greens.org>



> Subject: Sunday, June 15th--America's Muslim Political Prisoner, Dr. Sami
> Al Arian--  The Deepening Civil Rights Crisis
> 
> Please Forward
> 
> American Muslim Alliance & Citizens' Committee for Equal Justice & 
> Council on American Islamic Relations- San Francisco
> 
> 
> CIVIC FORUM
> 
> The Deepening Civil Rights Crisis
> 
> Plus
> 
> A status report on Dr. Sami Al-Arian's
> 
> continued incarceration
> 
> SUNDAY JUNE 15TH   5:00 PM
> 
> Muslim Community Association 3003 Scott Blvd Santa Clara , CA 95054 (408)
> 970-0647
> 
> $10 (Dinner included)
> 
> Hon. Ramsey Clark US Attorney General (1967 - 1969)
> 
> Prof Peter Erlinder William Mitchell College of Law Saint Paul ,
> Minnesota
> 
> Ms Leena Al-Arian Family Member
> 
> Mr. Omar Ahmad Founder CAIR Dr. Agha Saeed Chair American Muslim
> Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections & Many More
> 
> For Further Information: AMA Office 510.252.9858 , Dr. Zaki- 
> 408.666.8205,  Mr. Tashie Zaheer- 510.750.3297, Hazem Kira- 925.212.6604,
> Adnan Rasheed -408.876 - 8901,   Sagir Ahmed -650.862.4625, Ashraf
> Chaudhry -925.458.7027, Shan Saigal- 408.505.9302
> 
> 
> 
> 
> THOUGHT CRIMES: Bringing 1984 to the United States In late 2007, the
> House of Representatives passed legislation (404-6 margin with 23 members
> not voting) that targets Americans with "radical" ideologies. The bill 
> threatens constitutionally protected freedoms of expression, privacy and
> protest.    If HR 1955, "The Violent Radicalization Homegrown Terrorism
> Prevention Act of 2007" is passed in the Senate and signed into law by
> George W. Bush, the act would establish a ten-member National Commission
> to study and propose legislation to address the threat of possible
> "radicalization" of Americans.   Just as with the McCarthy Commission and
> the FBI's Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO), the National
> Commission would have broad powers to investigate anyone. "It would
> create a public perception that whoever is being investigated by the
> Commission must be involved in subversive or illegal activities. It would
> give the appearance that whoever they are investigating is potentially a
> traitor or disloyal or a terrorist, even if all they were doing was
> advocating lawful views," said Odette Wilkens, the executive director of
> the Equal Justice Alliance said.  "Law enforcement should focus on
> action, not thought. We need to worry about the people who are committing
> crimes rather than those who harbor beliefs that the government may 
> consider to be extreme," said one ACLU press statement.
> 
> AMERICA'S MOST PROMINENT POLITICAL PRISONER In December 2005, a Tampa
> jury acquitted Dr. Al Arian of "terrorism" charges. Two years later he is
> still in prison because the Bush administration refuses to honor a May
> 2006 promise to release and deport him.   After hearing 6 months of
> evidence, 80 witnesses including Israeli intelligence agents; hundreds of
> hours of FISA wiretaps culled from 425,000 conversations recorded over 10
> years; and more than $50 million in taxpayer money being thrown at the 
> case, the jury did not find any of the defendants guilty of anything!
> TIME Magazine called Dr. Al Arian's acquittal "the biggest defeat for the
> Bush Administration to date" [1], and so it was. It was also a victory
> for the United States Constitution.    In April 2006 the
> Bush-administration promised: (a) to drop all charges; (b) to release Dr.
> Al Arian in May 2006; (c) to assist in deporting him to country of his
> choice, immediately, and (d) not to call him before a grand jury.
> However, two years later, he is still languishing in jail, while people
> all over the world are demanding his release. Forward email
> 
> 
> 
>