[Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Re: Some jarring stats

[Eric A Meece]

I think Peter Myers did pretty well all things considered. I think the Obama victory will be good for Greens. Bush was not. Liberal-inclined folk were too scared to vote Green because of the horrible enormity of the Bush disaster, which it truly was-- to an unprecedented degree. He was by far the worst president ever. People were too scared of Republicans and their extreme ideology to risk voting Green. Now that this threat is somewhat diminished, people will feel freer to express their true values when voting, just as they had been to some degree before Bush. The country will be moving at least back to the center, and that means the possibility exists for more energy and ideas getting a hearing on the left. Greens can fulfill a role of encouraging and informing the country of where we need to go.

I like Caroline's suggestions. I also think we can be more effective if we get a good lobbying committee and add to the pressure on our politicians to do the right things. Greens can demonstrate and carry signs, and I do too sometimes; but I'm a bit tired of yelling and not being heard. Anything we can do to educate the people about things like climate change and energy alternatives would fulfill our purpose as Greens. The fate of Prop 10 shows just how far we still need to go; the people don't seem to get it, even after all that has been told to them.

The system is stacked against 3rd parties. The famous former conservative commentator Kevin Phillips said on Bill Moyers that if the people continue to be frustrated, they will continue to desert the major parties, which already have less power to shape events than they used to have. 

We are the only developed country to have an elected king system. Other nations have parliamentary democracies with proportional representation for many parties that give their people a place at the table. This even includes the system that Bush and Co. set up in conquered Iraq. Eventually it will dawn on Americans that our system is not the "best in the world," but grossly outdated; a leftover from the late 18th century and a model that was not copied by republics that emerged later.

King George is dead. Long live King Barack!

Eric the Green
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Caroline Yacoub 
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  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:37 AM
  Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Re: Some jarring stats




        --- On Sat, 11/8/08, Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net> wrote:

          From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
          Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Some jarring stats
          To: "Fred Duperrault" <fredd at freeshell.org>
          Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 9:33 AM


                I think we need to do more visible things to engage people. Liability insurance aside, I think going out and raking leaves with a sign that says "The Green Party Cares" or doing Adopt a Highway or picketing gas stations (whatever happened to that plan?) or wearing Green Party shirts while we clean up a beach or park--and trying to get some media coverage while we do these things--will get us a lot more votes and voters than sitting around talking.
                Caroline

                --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org> wrote:

                  From: Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org>
                  Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Some jarring stats
                  To: "South SF Bay Discuss at CA Greens" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
                  Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:30 PM


Based on today's  SF Chronicle's vote counts of the California U.S House

of Reps. and State Assembly election, I did some totaling - with a 
possible  17%  margin of error. (As yet, no one has checked my arithmetic.)

 > The total number of votes the five California Green Party candidates 
received was 44,612.
   The average was 8,922.

 > The Libertarian Party's twenty one candidates received 240,227 
votes.  They averaged       
    11,438 votes,

 > The Peace and Freedom Party's five candidates received a total of 
35,015. They averaged
    7,003.

 > The two Independents  (Cindy Sheehan and Thomas Lash) received a 
total of 64,793 votes.
    Their average was 32,397.

 > The total number of Independent  and "Third Party" votes  was
384,647.

 > The Libertarian party garnered about 62% of the non-DemoRepub votes.

What can the Green Party of California deduce from these statistics?

 

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