[Sosfbay-discuss] Report from Candidates Forum in Saratoga

Brian Good snug.bug at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 23 11:41:07 PDT 2008



Aye, serious campaigns.   Which is why I raised the issue of candidates' 
allegiance with anti-semites after the forum on the 9th.  Raising the issue
later amongst some mutual friends of Carol Brouillet's and mine, I'm quite 
dismayed at the lack of interest in the subject.  Has the Green Party not 
established a policy on these things?

I consider anti-semitism to be the death of any political effort--on pragmatic 
grounds as well as moral ones.  The Green Party has the potential to pursue 
important work by clearly defining a posture opposing the obvious crimes of 
Israel while creating an environment where Jews feel welcome.  Candidates' 
expressions of support for notorious bigots should not go by without comment--
and sanctions.

Brian 





 





> From: andid at cagreens.org
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:01:25 -0700
> To: tnharter at aceweb.com
> CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Report from Candidates Forum in Saratoga
> 
> As long as we support the Democrats by not running serious campaigns  
> against them, they have no reason to answer anything.  And they never  
> will.
> Andrea
> 
> On Sep 10, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> > The Libertarian Candidate was also there. His fliers were glossy card
> > stock, and three quarters of them were Libertarian Party boilerplate.
> >
> > I asked what the candidates would do about our oil addiction.
> > Anna said "vote for green jobs." The Libertarian said "get the price
> > signals right in the marketplace." Carol said something, but I forgot
> > what. I was hoping one of them would say something like "I drive less
> > than I used to", but none of them did.
> >
> > I asked what the candidates would do to make the political system more
> > interesting to more Americans. Anna Eshoo said "make campaign cycles
> > shorter." The Libertarian said "If I get elected Washington is  
> > going to
> > be a lot more interesting place." Carol said something like  
> > "impeaching
> > Bush would make politics much more interesting." I was hoping for  
> > maybe
> > "live your politics and everything gets more profoundly interesting"
> > but nobody went there.
> >
> > The people in the crowd were much shyer than I'm used to. It was hard
> > to get conversations started. Maybe Carol gave away half a dozen of  
> > her
> > Behind Every Bush There is a Terrorist DVDs.
> >
> > Tian
> >
> > Brian Good wrote:
> >>
> >> About 20 people attended.  Anna phoned in from Washington,
> >> the Republican didn't show up.  Tian was there.
> >>
> >> Carol was poised, composed, confident, and inspiring.
> >>
> >> Anna gave her usual blather--"talk, talk, talk, I did this, I did
> >> that, it's such a privilege to serve, we have such a great
> >> future... blah blah.... okay, is it safe to stop now, or will you
> >> notice that I didn't answer the question?"
> >>
> >> Anna made claims that she has made significant contributions
> >> to the defense of the Constitution in her committees, and 50
> >> years from now when the docs are declassified we'll know
> >> what a hero she was.
> >>
> >> I submitted three questions.  They didn't read one asking Anna
> >> to defend her gutless complicity in Bush's 8-year war on the
> >> values of democracy, and they didn't read one asking Carol
> >> how (and if) she distances herself from anti-semitism in the
> >> 9/11 Truth movement.
> >>
> >> Afterwards, Carol tried to dismiss the antisemitism issue as
> >> mere semantics.  She needs a better answer than that.  Tian
> >> and I both pointed out that Carol's pitch ended with a her
> >> self-description as a truth-seeker when it should have ended
> >> with "Vote for me."  (I'd put it "Vote for me, and here's why.")
> >>
> >> In safe races where there's no danger of unseating the liberal,
> >> voters are free to vote Green without fear of unintended
> >> consequences, and we should be aggressively going after
> >> 30,000 votes to show the Democrats that smug, hack, gutless
> >> politics are not acceptable.
> >>
> >>
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