[Sosfbay-discuss] Fair Elections?
Tian Harter
tnharter at aceweb.com
Sat Aug 29 11:58:50 PDT 2009
Getting $5 from each of 7,500 people is quite a bit of work. Probably
you could do it with good name recognition and a few dozen volunteers.
My entire donor list from 2006 was probably under 100 people. I don't
think 7500 Californians would give me $5 donations, but maybe they would
if I had a good schwag or something like that. But then it wouldn't be a
donation.
I like this idea a lot better than that "top two" one, which I consider
to be more or less a death sentence for third parties. I don't like it
enough to do any work for it though.
Tian
Palm Haven Handyman wrote:
> Wes,
>
> Please dumb it down for me. Should I be supporting this thing or agin it?
>
> I favor electoral reform.
>
>
> Roy III
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net
> <mailto:wrolley at charter.net>> wrote:
>
> Cameron's note sent me off to do some research.
>
> Here is the actual text of the bill that will be on the ballot:
> Note, in all of the following, we are only dealing with the
> Secretary of State Elections in 2014 and 2018... sort of a test case
> before doing more.
>
>> (b) For eligible candidates in a general election:
>> (1) The base amount of Fair Elections funding for a
>> performance-qualified
>> candidate in a general, special, or special runoff election is one
>> million three
>> hundred thousand dollars ($1,300,000).
>> (2) The amount of Fair Elections funding for an eligible qualified
>> candidate in a contested general election is 25 percent of the
>> base amount
>> a performance-qualified candidate would receive.
> So, Cameron is correnct in that Dems would receive 4 X what a Green
> would receive if the Green candidate were not "performance-qualified."
>
> So, what is the definition of being "performance-qualified"? (I am
> going to cut and paste just a few key items so that you get the point.
>
> OK.. this gets a bit more complex as you go thorough it all.
>
> First, there are "office qualified" candidates.
> To become "office-qualified" you must do *ALL* of the following:
>> 1. The candidate files a declaration with the commission that the
>> candidate has complied and will comply with all of the
>> requirements of this
>> act,....
> and
>> 2. The office-qualified candidate shall collect at least 7,500
>> qualifying
>> contributions. ($5 per contribution).
> and some more administrative provisions to be followed.
>
> Then for the performance qualification???
>
>> A qualified candidate shall collect at least one-half of the
>> number of qualifying contributions as required for an office-qualified
>> candidate for the same office. A qualified candidate may show a
>> greater
>> base of support by collecting double the amount of qualifying
>> contributions
>> as required for an office-qualified candidate to become a
>> performance-qualified candidate.
>
>
> There are a few other wrinkles, including one on getting the word
> out that you really need these contributions. That is called "seed
> money".
>
>> (b) A seed money contribution shall not exceed one hundred dollars
>> ($100) per donor, and the aggregate amount of seed money contributions
>> accepted by a candidate seeking to become eligible for Fair
>> Elections funding
>> shall not exceed seventy-five thousand dollars ($75,000).
> In 2006, Debra Bowen spend $1.4 Million plus on her campaign for
> Secretary of State. Compare that to the $1.3 limit imposed here.
> BTW: Republican Bruce McPherson spent
> $2.3 Million and Green Forrest Hill spend $35 K.
>
> So, a real question is raised: Forrest Hill garnered 9,246 votes in
> Santa Clara County. If each of those were to contribute $5 we could
> have an office qualified candidate for Sec. of State in 2014.
>
> So, how well organized can we be? Can we make 15,000? I really
> don't know.
>
> One of my points is that we need to do the real work and real
> analysis on every one of these decisions before making them. This
> much took me about 15 minutes.
>
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>
> Wes Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024
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