From eameece at sfo.com  Mon Jun  1 12:34:34 2009
From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:34:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Instant Runoff Voting for San Jose
Message-ID: <A25B698B9CC645038773F51E09E4C2C2@eameecePC>

CauseNet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Emily Pears, Califoria Common Cause 
To: Eric Meece 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: Instant Runoff Voting for San Jose


Dear Eric,

For five elections in a row, instant runoff voting has saved the city of San Francisco money, increased voter turnout, and resulted in city officials who are more representative of their constituents' views.

Could instant runoff voting do the same for San Jose?

California Common Cause, along with the New America Foundation's Political Reform Program, invite you to a panel discussion on Thursday, June 11 to discuss how instant runoff voting might be implemented in the city of San Jose.

This panel will feature San Jose City Councilor Sam Liccardo, Californians for Electoral Reform President Steve Chessin, San Jose City Councilor Ash Kalra, and California Common Cause Board Member Katie Selenski.  

The panel discussion will be moderated by Terry Christensen of San Jose State University and will take place at the Martin Luther King Jr. Public Library from 12pm to 1:15pm in rooms 225/229.  We hope that you will be able to join us for this important discussion about the future San Jose's elections.  

What: Panel discussion on the future of IRV for San Jose

When: Thursday, June 11th, 2009 from 12:00pm - 1:15pm

Where: Martin Luther King Jr. Public Library, 150 East San Fernando Street, San Jose, Rooms 225/229

Parking is readily available in city garages on 4th and San Fernando.  This event is free and open to the public, and lunch will be provided.

To register for this event, visit http://www.newamerica.net/events/2009/instant_runoff_voting.

I look forward to seeing you there.


Sincerely,

Emily Pears
and the rest of the team at California Common Cause




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From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Jun  2 14:13:43 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:13:43 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: 5,001]
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Subject: 	5,001
Date: 	Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:05:25 -0700
From: 	david ledesma <svtriathlete at hotmail.com>

*Combined U.S. troop deaths:
4,307 = Iraq
694 = Afghanistan
5,001 = TOTAL
1,200,000+ Iraqi's

PROTEST IN SAN JOSE'
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Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd., 11:30am-2pm.
We must demand an end to the illegal and inhumane death and destruction,
and show our community there continues to be on-going opposition to the
occupations!

U.S. out of Iraq and Afghanistan!
Bring Our Troops Home NOW!
Stop Militarizing our Youth!
Fully fund Public Education: Primary/Secondary/Post-Secondary!
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Jun  2 17:15:14 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:15:14 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: A Look Back on 25 years of Maine Greens...
Message-ID: <4A25C092.2000104@aceweb.com>

   A Party of Their Own
?
http://www.downeast.com/node/5943


      * 2009 * Talk of Maine* Greater Portland

DEE TOM

      * By: Jeff Clark

Twenty-five years ago, when the Maine Green Party was founded as the
first Green political organization in the country, its often-chaotic
meetings earned it a reputation as ?a prime example of creative
dysfunction,? as one exasperated participant said at the time. Ben
Chipman, of Portland, laughs out loud at the anecdote. In recent years
he has worked on or managed the campaigns of sixteen Green Party
candidates and won ten of them. Portland?s Green Independent Party
(as it?s now known) currently has three members on the city council,
two on the school committee, and two more on the Portland Water
District Board. The first Green elected to state-level office in the
United States was John Eder, who served two terms in the Maine
Legislature from a Portland district.

Portland has been a Democratic stronghold for decades, the party?s
grip on power so absolute that Republicans often don?t even bother to
run candidates in local elections ? which officially are nonpartisan
but in practice are as political as any senate race. But these days
the Greens are widely acknowledged as the city?s new second party,
displacing the GOP in both votes and political offices and shaking the
complacency out of the Democratic power structure. In terms of
election results, the Forest City?s Greens are the most successful
branch of their party in the country. Retaining and building on that
success, though, will be a major challenge if the Greens want to be
more than just another footnote in Maine political history.

Portland?s Greens have found success appealing to a group of voters
that until recently were routinely ignored in political races ? young
adults. Historically Maine Greens have their roots in the
environmental movement of the early 1980s, with a strong dose of
progressive politics adapted from the European Greens, the party?s
original home. The party?s core values of social justice, ecological
wisdom, grassroots democracy, nonviolence, and decentralization
resonate particularly well among Portland?s large under-thirty-five
population.

Greens have been an officially recognized political party in Maine
since gubernatorial candidate Jonathan Carter won 6.4 percent of the
vote in 1994, with a two-year hiatus after presidential candidate
Ralph Nader failed to break the required 5-percent benchmark in 1996.
Pat LaMarche won back official status in 1998 when she won 6.8 percent
of the vote running for governor as a Green Independent (a name chosen
on the spur of the moment due to legal ambiguities surrounding the
party?s official status and later formally adopted). Today Maine has
the highest percentage of registered Greens in the country, about 3.2
percent of Maine?s 994,155 registered voters.

Even in the gubernatorial races in Maine, though, the party?s
political organization can best be described as casual. Many old guard
Greens still view the rough and tumble of electoral politics with
distrust, making the success in Portland an even larger anomaly.
?Greens are fiercely independent and antiestablishment,? points out
Eder, ?and running a political campaign is a very establishment act.
Some Greens find that distasteful.?

?Over time we?ve kind of screened out the people who oppose
electoral politics,? Chipman says of the Portland branch. The young
people who make up the Portland organization ? gray hair is a
distinct rarity ? have taken the Green slogan, ?Think globally, act
locally,? to its logical conclusion in politics. ?We?ve evolved
into an electoral force to be reckoned with in Portland,? Chipman
maintains.

Chipman, Eder, and Ben Meiklejohn get much of the credit for laying
the foundations for the party?s success. Chipman and Meiklejohn had
been active in the Green Party while students at the University of
Maine in Orono in the mid-1990s, where Meiklejohn was president of the
student government for two years. They both moved to Portland in the
late nineties and helped found the city?s Green Independent chapter,
which Eder cochaired in 1998. In 2001 Meiklejohn defeated an incumbent
Democrat to win an at-large seat on the Portland School Committee, the
culmination of three years of campaigning.

By 2005 Greens held four of the committee?s nine seats. Despite
occasionally frosty relations with the majority Democrats on the
board, Greens managed to pass several initiatives, including limits on
in-school military recruiting.

In 2002 Eder ran for a vacant seat in the Maine House representing a
district in the city?s West End. ?One of the first pieces of advice
I got was to cut out all voters between eighteen and thirty-five years
old, as well as anyone who hadn?t voted in the last presidential
election,? Eder recalls. ?I said no. Those young voters were my
crowd. What I found was that it?s easy for any group of voters to
become apathetic if they?re not invited to participate. Appealing to
younger voters and going door to door were the keys to my success in
Portland.?

Eder and other Greens admit that the demographics of the Portland
peninsula have played an important role in the party?s success.
?Portland has the largest percentage of eighteen to thirty-five-year-
olds in the state,? notes Tina Smith, the Greens new county chair.
?A majority of the people living on the peninsula are young, and
they?re more interested in dramatic change than either of the two
major parties.

?People our age have been called apathetic, and that?s not true,?
she insists. ?It?s just that no one was talking about our issues,
the things that are important to us, like the creative economy and
neighborhood improvements.?

Eder, and Meiklejohn before him, found that the personal trumped the
ideological in Portland politics. ?Portland has quite a few left-
leaning voters,? Eder points out, ?although that wasn?t really an
issue going door to door. It was the face-to-face contact that
counted. A lot of people told me they had lived in the neighborhood
for thirty years and no one had come to see them before me. Voters
felt they had been taken for granted as a Democratic stronghold. Over
the years a complacency had set in with the Democrats that opened the
door for a more activist type of representation.?

I think everybody underestimated us,? says Kevin Donoghue, who
defeated an incumbent to win a seat on the Portland City Council in
2006. ?It?s the new reality.? Donoghue registered as a Green the
day after the 2004 Democratic caucuses. ?The caucus was such a
frustrating[experience] for a variety of reasons,? he recalls.
?Plus it was located at Deering High School off the Portland
peninsula on a Sunday when there was no public transportation
available. John Eder got me a ride.?

Donoghue quickly progressed from frustrated Democrat to Green activist
to political candidate, running on a platform of affordable housing,
better public transportation, and citizen involvement. ?Every polity
needs at least two parties to have a public dialogue,? he reasons.
?It wasn?t until now that voters were given a meaningful choice in
an election rather than automatically voting for the anointed
Democrat.?

Not that the Democrats have welcomed the competition. Donoghue admits
that ?it was tough getting respect? when he first joined the
council.

Nonetheless, the Greens were successful in passing policy changes to
increase housing availability on the crowded Portland peninsula, as
well as pushing for a public transit study to improve bus service and
create bike lanes on city streets. The Greens also played a key role
in choosing a development plan for the Maine State Pier last year.
(Legal issues have since stalled the project.)

Susan Hopkins, an attorney who became one of four Greens on the school
committee when she won an at-large election in 2005, chose not to seek
reelection last year after what she describes as a ?brutal? three
years on the board. Hopkins came to the Greens as a long-time Democrat
who had worked on George Mitchell?s Senate campaign and served in the
Clinton White House.

?The Democrats do not like the Greens,? she says today. ?They
were absolutely vicious. On the very first night, I was accused of
engaging in illegal meetings. It was downhill from there. I truly felt
driven off.?

Former school committee chair Democrat John Coyne ? now a member of
the city council ? was elected the same year as Hopkins, and he
recalls a ?pretty fractious? first year. ?There were a lot of 5-4
votes along party lines,? he says. Coyne says the Greens in general
on the panel showed a lack of political sophistication that hurt them.
?Their delivery and their approach needed some polishing before they
rolled out ideas,? he notes. ?They wanted quick fixes, done now.
And in politics, nothing is now.?

Coyne speaks highly of Hopkins, calling her work with Portland?s
immigrant community a valuable contribution to the committee. ?I
think her vision of what she wanted [on the committee] wasn?t
realized,? he offers. ?The politics bogged her down.?

The Greens can have a future in Portland, Coyne adds, if they take the
time to establish themselves and make sure the people they support can
be accepted in the larger political culture. ?In my last year on the
school committee, two of the Green members were arrested for various
things,? he points out. ?I think the public saw that as not
mature.?

Veteran political observer and DownEast.com media columnist Al Diamon
says the Portland Greens still have to overcome a certain political
naivet? if they expect to have a future in the city. ?They elected a
few people to public office, but once they got in there I think there
was a real shock that nothing happened,? he explains. ?They
discovered that 90 percent of what they were dealing with was not
ideological; it?s practical ? how many streets get paved this year,
which textbooks to buy.?

Portland Greens have also attracted criticism for their lack of action
in anticipating and dealing with the ongoing financial crisis that has
enveloped the city council and school committee. Meiklejohn lost his
school committee seat in a hotly contested four-way race in 2007 in
large part due to the perception that, as the board?s senior member,
he should have done more to head off the calamity.

Diamon says the budget crisis might prove to be a turning point for
the Greens, and not a good one. He predicts the party may get a shock
in the next election. ?The Democrats got blindsided by the Greens,?
he observes. ?Now they?re saying, ?Enough is enough, this is our
turf.? I think you?ll see a real Sunday punch in November.
There?ll be a grassroots campaign on Munjoy Hill [a Green power base]
like you?ve never seen before.?

A single city ? or, for that matter, a handful of neighborhoods in a
city ? do not a political party make, and Green activists are aware
of that. State Green chair Lynne Williams, of Bar Harbor, became the
first Maine gubernatorial candidate of 2010 in December when she
announced her plans to run.

?Building our base is the top focus for this year,? Tina Smith
says. Greens now count 2,354 members in Portland and more than 7,600
in Cumberland County, according to a tally by the Maine Secretary of
State in December. ?We have to push ourselves out there so people
know who we are,? Smith says. ?We?re a new option for people.?

She emphasizes that Maine?s Greens have largely moved past the
disgruntled Democrats who were the majority of early members.
?There?s a generational change going on,? she says. ?People are
feeling they are Greens because of what we stand for, not because
they?re sick of the Democrats.?

Chipman, 33, says the generational shift has become far more obvious
in recent years. ?I remember being one of the youngest people in the
room at the [state] Green conventions, and no one would listen to
me,? he explains. ?Now there are a lot more people my age or
younger.? One result has been a simplified, more structured state
organization that is more focused on electoral success. ?Last year
eighty towns in Maine had Green caucuses,? Chipman points out.

Eder turned forty in January and is as close as the Portland Greens
get to being the party?s elder statesman and mentor. He says the
Greens will have to work hard to avoid winding up in history?s
dustbin. ?Everything we?ve done could disappear tomorrow,? he
observes. ?It?s a matter of bringing more people into the process,
spreading it to other parts of the state. If the party can duplicate
[at the state level] what we?re doing here, it could mean a lot of
success.?
-- 
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  2 20:41:31 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:41:31 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 5,000 us military deaths
Message-ID: <4A25F0EB.40008@sbcglobal.net>

*PROTEST IN SAN JOSE'
Sat/June 6  &  Sun/June 7
Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester Blvd.**, 11:30am-2pm.*
*We must demand an end to the illegal and inhumane death and 
destruction, and show our community there continues to be on-going 
opposition to the occupations!

**Combined U.S. troop deaths:
4,308 = Iraq
695 = Afghanistan
5,003 = TOTAL
1,200,000+ Iraqi's


U.S. out of Iraq and Afghanistan!
Bring Our Troops Home NOW!
Stop Militarizing our Youth!
Fully fund Public Education:    Primary/Secondary/Post-Secondary!** **
_
_Please Distribute Widely!



*



From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Jun  3 09:22:56 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:22:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [Platform-work] FW: APPLICATION for 2009
 NATIONAL MEETING DIVERSITY REGISTRATION FEE WAIVERS]
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  3 09:52:56 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:52:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 9/11 Truth Architect Interviewed on Mainstream TV
	in Fresno
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    Richard Gage, AIA, had a seven minute interview on Fox-Affiliated 
KMPH last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQbM

    Anchor:  "We can't help but feel a little freaked out by this."

    Gage:  "You're getting it!"

   Gage had a seven-minute interview on mainstream abc KGO radio news
Wednesday morning. 

http://bayradio.kgoradio.com/kgo_archives/m3u/30800.m3u    Starts at 14:15  (45:38 on the downcounter)









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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  3 10:29:17 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:29:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 9/11 Truth Architect Interviewed on Mainstream TV
	in Fresno
Message-ID: <BAY140-W3E16282CDF032B85E7F089E4A0@phx.gbl>



    Richard Gage, AIA, had a seven minute interview on Fox-Affiliated 
KMPH last week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO2yT0uBQbM

    Anchor:  "We can't help but feel a little freaked out by this."

    Gage:  "You're getting it!"

   Gage had a seven-minute interview on mainstream abc KGO radio news
Wednesday morning. 

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  3 11:31:13 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:31:13 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Torture is a Moral Issue" 6/26-27 in Palo Alto
Message-ID: <BAY140-W94E37C94DCB19321202679E4A0@phx.gbl>


June 26, 2009:  Torture is a Moral Issue Panel - The soul of our nation is at stake!
Friday, June 26, 7:30pm at the First Presbyterian Church, 1140 Cowper St., Palo Alto
Mark the 22 anniversary of the UN Convention Against Torture by attending this crucial conversation featuring
Ray McGovern -- Jean Maria Arrigo -- Ben Daniel -- David DeCosse -- John Crigler. 
 
June 27, 2009:  Torture is a Moral Issue One Day Conference
Saturday, June 27, 9am-5pm at the First United Methodist Church, 625 Hamilton Ave., Palo AltoIf you are able, join us for the Saturday conference featuring:
Terrence Karney - former Army Interrogator;   Rev. Carol Wickersham - founder of No2Torture;   Janet Alexander - Stanford Law School Professor;   Banafsheh Akhalghi - Amnesty International;    Center for Survivors of Torture Speaker 
          "We need to make it clear that we believe it is Jesus Christ, not Jack Bauer who saves us. Our story line is not the ticking time bomb scenario; our story is the gospel, a story of triump over torture and death."-- Rev. Carol Wickersham, Presbyterian minister, No2Torture founder, Saturday conference keynote.Suggested donation for Friday panel $5-15; for Saturday conference $20-$40.  No one turned away for lack of funds.  
Register for Saturday conference by clicking here.  Registration is not required by very helpful! 
Torture is a Moral Issue Panel and Conference are sponsored by the Council of Churches of Santa Clara County, the  National Religious Campaign Against Torture,  No2Torture, the Bay Area Religious Campaign Against Torture,  Peninsula Peace and Justice Center,  Network for Spiritual Progressives,  California Council of Churches, Calvary Presbyterian Church in San Francisco, and  MicahsCall.org.

Cosponsors:
Center for Survivors of Torture of Asian Americans for Community
Involvement, Amnesty International Western Region, Multifaith Voices
for Peace & Justice, American Muslim Voice, San Jose Peace and
Justice Center, Declaration of Peace-San Mateo County, Los Altos Voices
for Peace, Action Council Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto,
Pace e Bene, St. Thomas Aquinas Human Concerns Committee, Catholic
Community at Stanford, Pax Christi at Stanford, Center for Spiritual
Enlightenment, Code Pink & Global Exchange.
 
For more info, and flyers:  
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Jun  3 15:57:48 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:57:48 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] New OpEd online today.
In-Reply-To: <A606EA95FF0C4824BD3F42E02C692037@eameecePC>
References: <4A253EC0.3070207@charter.net>
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Eric A. Meece wrote:

<snip>
>  
> The idea that evolution is a settled issue is a common misconception, 
> and promotes a dogmatic scientism. Darwinism as understood today is 
> dehumanizing and anti-life, because it reduces life and its 
> evolution to a mechancal process, as well as reducing it to a 
> competitive rather than cooperative one. These issues are important to 
> many Greens, not just religious people. If there is a spiritual, 
> creative aspect to life, not just a mechanical one, then this aspect 
> must be extended to all life and all being, not just to humans who see 
> themselves as special and apart. In my opinion, we can't reduce living 
> beings to mechanical objects on the one hand, and on the other hand 
> value them as sacred, mysterious and inherently valuable. We know some 
> spiritual things by means of experiences that aren't easily testable 
> by empirical science, though some kinds of science substantiate these 
> experiences (such as the evidence that prayer works, evidence for ESP, 
> etc. etc.).
The real direction of all efforts needs to be aimed at achieving 
Consilience... the unity of knowledge...  as described in E. O. Wilson's 
book by that name.  It is really the effort to find the true scientific 
basis for all of the things that you have listed.  And, if and when this 
exceedingly complex effort is complete... you still will not have any 
answer to the question as to what action came before the big bang.


-- 
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Wed Jun  3 23:10:55 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 23:10:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: National Healthcare Update!
Message-ID: <90729.13804.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- On Wed, 6/3/09, CNA/NNOC: The RN Union <website at calnurses.org> wrote:


From: CNA/NNOC: The RN Union <website at calnurses.org>
Subject: National Healthcare Update!
To: "Caroline Yacoub" <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 6:20 PM




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Inside this issue:
1. Healthcare House Parties sponsored by Organizing for America
2. TAKE ACTION: Join us in San Diego June 4th!
3. Reports on today's Baucus healthcare meeting




Join?a Healthcare House Party near you!
The movement for single-payer grows, following actions in 50 cities ? Now tell President Obama!
The next step is for each of us to take the single-payer message to the Obama for America (OFA) "kickoff" meetings on June 6. Click here to find one near you. 
Polls show strong support for single-payer, and the folks attending these events are friendly to the cause of real healthcare reform. This is a great opportunity to build support and send our message to President Obama.




TAKE ACTION: Join us in San Diego June 4th!
Message to Insurance Companies: It?s time for you to go! Nurses, Doctors, Patients to Protest Health?Insurance Lobbyists in San Diego - June 4th
Health Advocates to Offer AHIP $11 Billion Check to Dissolve in Favor of a Guaranteed, Single-Payer Model 
As America's drive for healthcare reform heats up, the lobbying group for health insurers will meet this week in San Diego?and will be greeted by an impassioned demonstration organized by nurses, doctors, and patients supporting single-payer healthcare reforms.
WHAT:??? Nurses, Doctors Protest Health Insurance Industry
WHEN:??? Thursday, June 4th, 8:30 a.m.? (media availability at 8:00 and 10:15 a.m.)
WHERE: San Diego Convention Center, 5th @ Harbor, near grass meridian
The healthcare advocates will give the lobbyists an $11 billion dollar check, representing their annual profits, as a symbolic final payout to encourage the health insurers to leave the industry and be replaced with the kind of universal, nonprofit coverage common to other democracies.? 




Senator Baucus hears from doctors and nurses: single-payer is the solution
As a result of the growing movement for single-payer, the protests at the Senate Finance Committee, and the support we demonstrated for Senator Bernie Sanders' single-payer bill (S. 703) on May 13, CNA/NNOC co-president Geri Jenkins, RN,?Executive Director Rose Ann DeMoro, Dr. David Himmelstein, PNHP president Dr. Oliver Fein, and Dr. Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, went with Senator Sanders today to a meeting with Senator Max Baucus, who is leading the Democratic healthcare reform effort in the Senate.? It was the first extended discussion Baucus has had with single-payer advocates. He heard from doctors and nurses on the front lines about the need for a real policy debate on single-payer and the dangers of keeping the insurance companies at the apex of power ? and the opposition doing that will create among doctors and nurses. In response to Rose Ann DeMoro's request, Baucus agreed to drop the charges against
 those arrested at the Finance Committee hearing.
Two reports on this important meeting: 
Inside the Baucus Single-Payer Meeting--What Was Said, What's Next
National Nurses Movement's Diary
Daily Kos 06/03/09
Today's meeting of the nation's leading single payer activists with Sen. Max Baucus was historic, and a recognition of the power of the tens of thousands of nurses, doctors, and grassroots activists across the country who have been turning up the heat on the policy makers in Washington. Make no mistake ? your voices are being heard. And, the protests and pressure will continue.
As Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, told Baucus, "there is a groundswell" across the country that will continue to press for single-payer reform, and Baucus and other policy makers in Washington "are going to get to know us very well."? In a later press conference, DeMoro blasted the conventional wisdom that single payer is not politically viable. "Is it politically viable to let people die and suffer from a lack of political will?" Noting the fight for women's suffrage and the civil rights movement, she emphasized, "we're going to have to turn up the heat. Women did not get the right to vote by voting on it."


Read the complete nurses blog post and see flickr photos here
-----------------------------
By David Swanson, After Downing Street (excerpt)
Advocates of single-payer emerged from the meeting with Baucus declaring their determination to push ahead with what they see as a fundamental struggle for human rights.? Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee and national vice president of the AFL-CIO, said the fight for single-payer is a civil rights movement, and that people "have to turn up the heat."? When someone questions the political viability of single payer, she said, we should question "allowing people to die and suffer for lack of political will."
The press conference, in which Baucus did not participate, was attended by the New York Times, Politico, the Associated Press, Pacifica Radio, Congressional Quarterly, and a camera that Flowers believed belonged to CNN.? Sanders opened the press conference with a statement on the domination of the private for-profit health insurance companies wasting $350 billion per year in billing, profiteering, and complexity.? If we were serious about healthcare reform, he said, we would be having a serious discussion of single-payer.
Dr. Marcia Angell, former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine and senior lecturer at Harvard, said that in her diagnosis the disease was market-driven healthcare in which access is based on the ability to pay.
Dr. David Himmelstein, co-founder of PNHP and associate professor medicine at Harvard Medical School, reported that Baucus had said he might be willing to drop charges of unlawful conduct and disruption of Congress against 13 people but had no intention of opening up any hearings to include single-payer.? 
Geri Jenkins, RN, co-president of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee and a practicing registered nurse, reported that Baucus had implied he'd made a mistake in not including single-payer but that it was too late now.
And, finally, Dr. Oliver Fein, president of PNHP and associate dean at Weill Medical College of Cornell University, said that he and his colleagues had asked Baucus for a full hearing on the merits of single payer and asked for the Congressional Budget Office to create a comparison of single payer with whatever plan Congress produces that is not single payer.? Senator Sanders said that he would continue to push Baucus to hold a hearing.







Thanks for your support!
California Nurses Association
National Nurses Organizing Committee
2000 Franklin Street
Oakland, CA 94612
www.CalNurses.org 
www.GuaranteedHealthcare.org
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Wed Jun  3 23:27:11 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:27:11 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Randy Shaw: Progressives Bear Blame for Cal Woes?
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Posted on California Greening, May 27, 2009.


Do Progressives Bear Blame for Cal Woes? 


by Alex Walker







Editor's Note: 

Beyond Chron
 is one of Northern California's most influential progressive
blogs. one of Northern California's most influential progressive blogs.
It takes its title as the "alternative online daily" to the corporate
Establishment San Francisco Chronicle.
Beyond Chron claims to be "We provide coverage of political and
cultural issues often distorted or ignored by the Bay Area's largest
newspaper, the San Francisco Chronicle. Beyond Chron presents a
critical look at the cutting edge issues of the day. Beyond Chron is
published by the San Francisco-based Tenderloin Housing Clinic. Clinic
Director Randy Shaw is the paper's editor. Shaw is a longtime San
Francisco activist who has published three books on activism, The
Activist's Handbook, Reclaiming America, and his new work, Beyond the
Fields: Cesar Chavez, the UFW and the Struggle for Justice in the 21st
Century. "






In the provocative article below, Randy Shaw makes many of the same
points as my Green Party friends and I. Shaw specifically makes a
charge against California's self-described "progressive" Democrats that
I have been making for years: while the Golden State's well-to-do,
well-connected liberals have made great contributions to the current
resurgence of liberalism in U.S. national politics and the election of
President Barack Obama, they have "dropped the ball" on the political
disaster unfolding in California.

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This is an interesting piece on a number of levels. Randy Shaw is,
after all, a loyal progressive Democrat and it is instructive how even
here he betrays some of the paralysing biases of the Democrats. Notice,
for example, how he says L.A. Mayor Tom Bradley "did not emerge from
the party's liberal wing." Never mind that it was Bradley's leadership
that dragged right-wing Los Angeles, kicking and screaming, into the
20th Century in the 1970s. Shaw goes on to say California progressives
include "three very powerful constituencies: labor unions,
environmentalists, and women?s groups" with "Latinos,
African-Americans, gays and lesbians, tenants and housing groups" stuck
onto the end of his grand "progressive" coalition as an afterthought.
He wrote a whole book about Cesar Chavez and the farmworkers in the
1970s but cannot imagine "progressive" leadership coming from anywhere
else but people like himself.  








Posted on Beyond Chron, June 2, 2009.


Progressives Bear Blame for California?s Woes  


by Randy Shaw 







As California faces a fiscal meltdown, Democrats blame Republicans for
opposing essential tax hikes. But progressives own failures should not
be ignored. California Republicans have been anti-tax zealots since the
mid-1990?s, yet progressives failed to prioritize passing a ballot
measure eliminating the 2/3 requirement for budget passage in 1998,
2000, 2004, or 2008, each of which offered a great chance for success.
Progressives have allowed conservatives to put them
 on the defensive in
the state initiative process, and have not mobilized on behalf of a
politically viable progressive Governor candidate since Jerry Brown in
1974. And, if Brown and Gavin Newsom are the only major Democratic
candidates in 2010, this pattern will be repeated. California
progressives launched MoveOn.org, created the electoral model for
Latino political empowerment, traveled to other states for Kerry and
Obama, and contribute massive amounts of money to progressive causes
and candidates across the nation -- but when it comes to preventing
conservatives from destroying our state, we have dropped the ball. 





Clearly, Arnold Schwarzenegger and the Republican Party deserve
overwhelming blame for the state?s budget crisis. Both led the recall
of Gray Davis over the hike in the vehicular license fee, eliminating a
revenue source that, if kept intact, would have virtually eliminated
the state?s entire budget deficit. But progressives have long
understood the Governor and Republican Party?s game, yet failed to
implement strategies to overcome it.






Poor Leadership Choices





If you want to capture the sad state of progressive political
strategizing/mobilizing in California, consider that the Democratic
candidates for Governor since 1982 have been Tom Bradley (twice),
Dianne Feinstein, Kathleen Brown (Jerry?s sister), Gray Davis (twice,
plus the recall election), and Phil Angelides.





None of these candidates galvanized the progressive base, or
emerged from the Party?s lib
eral wing. In fact, California Democrats
have consistently nominated people to lead the party who lack charisma,
the common touch, or any of the attributes that Barack Obama displays
on a daily basis.









And now it looks like Democrats will choose between Gavin Newsom and
Jerry Brown (Antonio Villaraigosa is rumored to not be running). The
two California politicians who have shown the least interest in working
with legislative colleagues, and who spent the least time in small
meetings with constituents, will be progressives? default choice.






We can?t blame Republicans for that.






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Read The Full Text And Leave a Comment At:

http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2009/06/do-progressives-bear-blame-for-cal-woes.html







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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Jun  4 00:45:27 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:45:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] June 3, 2009 Green Party Meeting
Message-ID: <838300.35567.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hats off to Tian for a great agenda, and for very Greenly printing proposed button designs on the back.
?
Present: Tian, Warner, Drew, Fred, Andrea, Caroline, Merriam. Also present for a bit: Eilene Johnson, Drew's mother, and Yvonne.
Facilitator:Drew
Timekeeper: Fred
Note Taker:Caroline
Vibes Watcher: Tian
?
Treasurer's Report (sort of)
As Jim was absent, Warner reported that we currently have $1900. 
We need to get a candidate for Water District. Andrea is interested, if the District has anything to do with wells. Warner says we need to identify and train candidates soon.We need to go to the Registrar of? Voters website and find out when the election will be. We need to find out if members are at large or by districts. Fred said we should get minutes from meetings. Warner volunteered to do research. Andrea and Merriam will go to meetings.
?
Introductions
Tian went to a meeting about biking and transit this morning. There are 4 new bridges for bikes.
Warner still has plants to be tabled.
Eilene Johnson, from Centennial, Colorado, talked about "flagpole annexation". Centennial is now a Home Rule City.
Merriam is working with the Palestine Action Group, also looking for someone to run against Lofgren and Honda.
Drew--One Step event last Saturday night at Santa Clara Convention Center. Purpose: to connect youth and young adults with non-profits.
Fred--went to Denver on his honeymoon 60 years ago. ?Saturday there will be a celebration of "Paddle to the Sea" at aquatic Park, at Larkin and Beach, from 12:00 to 4:00 with kayak rides and barbecue.
Yvonne left, Caroline and Andrea said nothing much.
?
Plenary
Warner: he was the facilitator on Saturday. The agenda was "captured" by dissonant folks, but the group still managed to pas a budget of $38,000, get fdelegates for GPUS, and approved two platform planks. He was frustrated by two individuals at loggerheads who dragged everybody else with them and by dishonesty in the way a proposal was presented, but he did his "lawyer thing" and kept everything from falling apart.
Andrea said she thought Warner had a good effect and people at the meeting thanked Santa Clara County for helping to smooth things over.
Drew was excited about what happened, because the saner Green element overcame the more aggressive people. He also mentioned the party Saturday night with the Radical Fairy.
?
KKUP
Merriam asked people at the County Council meeting to donate to KKUP in the name of the Green Party. It was announced over the air, and Warner and Lee Ann heard it and donated, too.
We suggested working on fundraisers for other radio/TV stations so we would be mentioned.
At the next marathon for KKUP, we should go and present our checks when they are at the Farmers' Market.
?
Gathering
Warner says it's more work than a plenary to put on. He also sys that, if we want to put one on in January, the proposal must be ready by the end of August.
Tian suggested a Bay Area Gathering.
Merriam suggested a place in Saratoga.
Fred said we should get a well-known entertainer.
?
Tabling
Gay Pride--staging 9-10 Sunday, June 14 Drew and Tian will carry the banner, if we can find it. Drew will call people.
Juneteenth--June 20-21. Tian is in charge. He sent around a sign-up sheet Tian is going to make a calendar of our upcoming events to hand out at Juneteenth.
July2 at Fred's at 7:00 Food 4 Thought #2 organizing meeting.
July 25--Yard sale at Andrea's Sunnyvale house. Be collecting stuff. If you can't haul it to Andrea's, Caroline will come and get it in July. E-mail Andrea about it, Caroline will be out of town.
August 22--Green Cuisine Food 4 Thought Picnic at Murphy Park.
Three Day Labor Day Event.
October 12 Green Fair--Merriam will be in charge.This is Indigenous Peoples' Day (otherwise known as Columbus Day). It will be at a church in downtown San Jose, and will feature tabling by green businesses and entertainment.
?
Coordinating Committee region member and alternate
There was a caucus at the plenary that sort of selected Tian, but Warner says it was improper. Drew disagrees and says the by-laws were followed. We need a person, but it'd hard work. Jim Stauffer wants to resign. Warner says we should ask San Mateo County to have the alternate. The next plenary will be the middle of October.
?
Button Vote
Tian had us look at the new button art he had run on the back of the agendas. We made comments and voted and should be having some cool new buttons soon.
?
?
Courage Campaign
Merriam said we should have somebody working on Gay Marriage town halls with the Courage Campaign. Maybe November.
?
Yes Magazine
Fred got us all excited about donating Yes magazine to our local libraries. Some of us chose to do that rather than donating to tonight's kitty.
?
We covered a lot of ground and got a lot done. Sorry if you weren't there.
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu Jun  4 15:33:59 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:33:59 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Peace and Freedom Party Goes
	National
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 Dear Green Friends, 





An old friend in New York sent me the e-mail below.? It seems our comrades in the California Peace and Freedom Party are ambitious. 





I am sorry to see that.? A rival 3rd party sputtering tired 1960's "radical" clich?s is, in my opinion, *NOT* what the world needs now and will only confuse the issue. 





When I replied to my friend, Carol's e-mail I had to explain why I am a registered Green and not P&F.? I had to write down all the reasons why I think our 10 Key Values are not only *superior* to Democratic Party liberalism, but also *superior* to that old "New Left" stuff.? I wrote about some of the history of the Greens in Europe and around the world.? I told her about my conversations with Venezuelan Greens at the GP National Convention last summer
in Chicago and why the Movimiento Ecol?gico de Venezuela reluctantly joined the opposition to Hugo Chavez. 

In my humble opinion, all systems based on the 19th Century model of industrial "civilization" are obsolete.? That means not only capitalist "liberalism" and "conservatism." It also means old-fashioned revolutionary socialism and all those little revolutionary nationalisms imitating British, French, Dutch, and Portuguese colonialism.? 

The global Green parties, or something like it, is what the world needs now even if we, ourselves, sometimes don't have sense enough to know it. 







 
Alex Walker









 





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iginal Message-----


From: Carol Hanisch 


To: . . .Alex Walker <AlexCathy at aol.com>; Cathy Deppe <CathyD at 9to5.org>


Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 6:27 am


Subject: California P & F Party goes national



















So what do my California friends make of this?











http://peaceandfreedom.org/home/conference-invitation








 


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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Jun  4 17:42:01 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Peace and Freedom Party Goes
	National
Message-ID: <176658.24416.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thank you. I agree.
Caroline

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com> wrote:


From: alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com>
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Peace and Freedom Party Goes National
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, gplac-forum at lists.cagreens.org, gpbc at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:33 PM



Dear Green Friends, 

An old friend in New York sent me the e-mail below.? It seems our comrades in the California Peace and Freedom Party are ambitious. 

I am sorry to see that.? A rival 3rd party sputtering tired 1960's "radical" 


clich?s is, in my opinion, *NOT* what the world needs now and will only confuse the issue. 

When I replied to my friend, Carol's e-mail I had to explain why I am a registered Green and not P&F.? I had to write down all the reasons why I think our 10 Key Values are not only *superior* to Democratic Party liberalism, but also *superior* to that old "New Left" stuff.? I wrote about some of the history of the Greens in Europe and around the world.? I told her about my conversations with Venezuelan Greens at the GP National Convention last summer in Chicago and why the Movimiento Ecol?gico de Venezuela reluctantly joi ned the opposition to Hugo Chavez. 

In my humble opinion, all systems based on the 19th Century model of industrial "civilization" are obsolete.? That means not only capitalist "liberalism" and "conservatism." It also means old-fashioned revolutionary socialism and all those little revolutionary nationalisms imitating British, French, Dutch, and Portuguese colonialism.? 

The global Green parties, or something like it, is what the world needs now even if we, ourselves, sometimes don't have sense enough to know it. 


Alex Walker



-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Hanisch 
To: . . .Alex Walker <AlexCathy at aol.com>; Cathy Deppe <CathyD at 9to5.org>
Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 6:27 am
Subject: California P & F Party goes national



So what do my California friends make of this?

http://peaceandfreedom.org/home/conference-invitation



Carol Hanisch
hanisch at verizon.net



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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  5 14:29:04 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:29:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Madeleine Albright
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I was shocked when I learned that the Ambassador to the UN had talked 
like a Nazi on TV in 1996 and nobody cared.  I only learned about it from 
Ward Churchill.

I was disappointed that there was no great reaction to Madge's 
appearance last night.  I did run across this short (2 min.) video, 
though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ndjWU9l76Q&feature=channel_page


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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Jun  5 14:58:32 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Reminder: Healthcare Reform Debate tomorrow
	Don't miss seeing Senator Mark Leno!!
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From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Subject: Reminder: Healthcare Reform Debate tomorrow Don't miss seeing Senator Mark Leno!!
To: "Lynn Huidekoper" <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Fri Jun  5 16:51:21 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:51:21 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Madeleine Albright
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W1736FF7FE3257ADB951C8E9E480@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W1736FF7FE3257ADB951C8E9E480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8CBB44FA9697017-13A4-149D@WEBMAIL-DF07.sysops.aol.com>

Nobody remembers this now since so many awful things have happened, but in 2000 a movement spearheaded by the San Jose Peace Center actually persuaded the Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors to pass a resolution to end the sanctions against Iraq.? Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's outrageous "We think it's worth the price" statement figured prominently in the debate. 

BTW, this is one of my arguments against the "Thanks Again, Ralph" rap is that?a Democratic administration of:

President Albert Gore
Vice-President Joseph Lieberman 
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright

might not necessarily have been that much of a "lesser evil" than the Bush-Cheney regime. 


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From alexcathy at aol.com  Sat Jun  6 08:41:07 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:41:07 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Obama - challenging Israel?
In-Reply-To: <c8941f7be0ee7001f77deeaffff1e7fd@dp1.avaaz.org>
References: <c8941f7be0ee7001f77deeaffff1e7fd@dp1.avaaz.org>
Message-ID: <8CBB4D457BE3ED0-828-509D@webmail-me21.sysops.aol.com>


 See below a petition circulating on the Internet about ending the settlements. 

Alex Walker 



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This week Obama delivered a historic speech to the Muslim world from Cairo ?? outlining his vision for peace.  


I just signed a petition based on Obama's own words, and I thought you might want to do the same ?? it will be published in newspapers in Israel and Washington DC to reach decision?makers. 


Click on the link below to support the campaign:


http://www.avaaz.org/en/obama_stop_settlements/98.php?cl_taf_sign=8db7ca4ac62e42b912c27a48ed1c78c7


Thanks! 


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jun  6 11:22:28 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:22:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gay Pride Parade
Message-ID: <4A2AB3E4.2040808@sbcglobal.net>

Dear San Jose Pride Parade Entrants:

You have been accepted in the San Jose Pride 2009 Parade. 
You need to check in at the corner of West St. John and Market Street
 between 8 AM and 9AM on Sunday June 14th.

Any questions call us at 408 505 1725.



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jun  6 11:49:19 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:49:19 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] brief plenary summary
Message-ID: <4A2ABA2F.4080005@sbcglobal.net>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more 
information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do 
not hit reply.  Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.
This is a quick summary report of decisions made, and other items, at 
the May
General Assembly in LA.

This report is also available in PDF format at
http://cagreens.org/plenary/archives/.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                  GENERAL ASSEMBLY SUMMARY REPORT
                       May 2009, Venice LA



The Coordinating Committee wishes to thank everyone for attending the 
General
Assembly in Venice. We also want to give a hardy 'thanks' to the hosting
committee and to the CC for a difficult job well done.

Complete minutes of  the General Assembly will are posted on the GPCA 
website
at www.greens.org/plenary/archives/ 
<http://www.greens.org/plenary/archives/>. Minutes are usually posted 
within 30 days
after the meeting. Note that the common GPCA login/password is required to
view the minutes until they are approved at the next General Assembly.


The May 2009 General Assembly formally commenced at 9:30 AM with quorum
established by 37 delegates from 8 regions in attendance


NEXT STATE MEETING

To be determined. Sonoma County has tentatively volunteered to host the 
next
General Assembly, contingent on finding an adequate facility. Their target
date for the meeting is October. They will advise the CC when a facility 
has
been found.



SUMMARY OF DECISIONS


---- Saturday, May 16 ----

1. Challenge to LA delegates credentials - New delegates proposed

    Resolved by vote - not accepted   Yes: 7  No: 29  Abstain: 6

2. Consent calendar - Confirmation of GPCA officers

    Current officers proposed for another term: Jane Rands, Liaison to
    the Secretary of State; Jeanne Rosenmeier, Treasurer.

    Accepted by consensus with one stand-aside concern.

3. General Assembly agenda proposed

    Resolved by vote - not accepted   Yes: 15  No: 24  Abstain: 3

4. Alternate General Assembly agenda proposed

    Resolved by vote - accepted    Yes: 31  No: 8  Abstain: 2  Not 
Present: 1

5. GPCA annual budget proposed

    Accepted by consensus with one stand-aside concern.

6. Report on ballot measures

    Campaigns and Candidates Working Group reports that the county 
polling to
    determine GPCA positions on ballot measures concluded successfully, 
so no
    decision is needed from this meeting.

     GPCA recommends NO on all ballot measures.

7. Discussion item - LA/Alameda restructuring proposal

    Decision on this item on Sunday.



----- Sunday, May 17 ----

8. Announcement from IT Group - Annual password change

    The common password used for access to internal party pages will change
    after this General Assembly.

9. Delegate credential dispute - Contra Costa County

    County members present proposed themselves as delegates.

     Accepted by consensus.

10. New/revised platform planks

    Platform committee proposed four planks:

    * Public Education - Accepted by consensus with friendly amendments and
      a stand-aside concern

    * Violence in Society - Accepted by consensus with friendly amendments

    * Water - Not accepted. Bring back with revisions

    * California Elections - Not accepted. Bring back with revisions

11. LA/Alameda restructuring proposal

     Proposes CC be elected from two at-large districts rather than from
     regions.

     Lengthy discussion with numerous concerns and amendments.

     Amended to a proposal to establish a committee to form a proposal 
for the
     next General Assembly.

     Accepted by vote - Yes: 36  No: 7  Abstain: 3

12. Discussion - Restructuring

     Proposes electing CC from mixed system of regions and at-large seats.

13. Discussion - Restructuring

     Proposes to restructure LA region into autonomous Locals.

14. Discussion - LA county bylaws

     Proposes that LA bylaws are non-compliant. Specific problem with CC
     rep elections.



Closing ceremony at 3:40 PM



From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  6 19:15:48 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 19:15:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party Goes
	National
Message-ID: <904292.40319.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I think that the difference between the Green Party and P&F Party is clear and distinct. There will always be those who say the Greens are too radical and there will always be those who say the P&F folks are too radical, but in the end, I know why I am a Green. 

While some people may think that the New Left and socialism are going to come back with a vengeance, I can firmly say that if they want the support of the American youth, the New Left will be greatly disappointed. "Revolution" is no longer an appealing word to the Millennials. This is not to say that we are content with things the way they are, because we are not. However, many of us believe that we are able to work within the framework of the democratic process to achieve change. While everyone has seen that freeing the market has not equated with freeing the people, it would be equally erroneous to think that replacing the free market with the state will solve our problems. It is only the Green solution that synthesises economic growth with environmental sustainability can we provide our country with the correct path of development.

It is as important now as it has ever been to remain focused on where we are and where we want to go. An attempt to revive the New Left by a small group of Californians should not be a distraction, because it will not push us off course. Appealing to young Californians ought to be easier for us than anybody else, because we have Green on our side.

-edward

Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Peace and Freedom Party
??? Goes??? National
To: alexcathy at aol.com
Cc: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <176658.24416.qm at web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thank you. I agree.
Caroline

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com> wrote:


From: alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com>
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Peace and Freedom Party Goes National
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, gplac-forum at lists.cagreens.org, gpbc at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:33 PM



Dear Green Friends, 

An old friend in New York sent me the e-mail below.? It seems our comrades in the California Peace and Freedom Party are ambitious. 

I am sorry to see that.? A rival 3rd party sputtering tired 1960's "radical" 


clich?s is, in my opinion, *NOT* what the world needs now and will only confuse the issue. 

When I replied to my friend, Carol's e-mail I had to explain why I am a registered Green and not P&F.? I had to write down all the reasons why I think our 10 Key Values are not only *superior* to Democratic Party liberalism, but also *superior* to that old "New Left" stuff.? I wrote about some of the history of the Greens in Europe and around the world.? I told her about my conversations with Venezuelan Greens at the GP National Convention last summer in Chicago and why the Movimiento Ecol?gico de Venezuela reluctantly joi ned the opposition to Hugo Chavez. 

In my humble opinion, all systems based on the 19th Century model of industrial "civilization" are obsolete.? That means not only capitalist "liberalism" and "conservatism." It also means old-fashioned revolutionary socialism and all those little revolutionary nationalisms imitating British, French, Dutch, and Portuguese colonialism.? 

The global Green parties, or something like it, is what the world needs now even if we, ourselves, sometimes don't have sense enough to know it. 


Alex Walker



-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Hanisch 
To: . . .Alex Walker <AlexCathy at aol.com>; Cathy Deppe <CathyD at 9to5.org>
Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 6:27 am
Subject: California P & F Party goes national



So what do my California friends make of this?

http://peaceandfreedom.org/home/conference-invitation



Carol Hanisch
hanisch at verizon.net



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From MLause at cinci.rr.com  Sun Jun  7 01:55:51 2009
From: MLause at cinci.rr.com (Mark A. Lause)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 04:55:51 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party
	GoesNational
In-Reply-To: <904292.40319.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <904292.40319.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2245A3191A7040599AEFF9AF9D5CAFEC@PC>

My own predisposition is to avoid building another tiny inward-looking clubhouse in a movement that already has dozens of them.  
I don't understand what the PFP sees as so special about itself.  We should suspect top-down announcement that a new group is starting with the right approach.  After all, it had the right approach, people not involved with them would naturally have replicated that approach at some point in the 40-year history of the PFP.  Nor do I understand Cynthia McKinney's launching of Dignity (a subject one would think would stir more discussion among Greens).   Members of existing or aspiring groups justify their own separate existence with a kind of specialized language to distinguish their own understanding from those not in the group.  

What is needed is a current defined by activity rather than dogmatic talk...one that doesn't have to remind themselves continually about their values because they are evident in how they functions.   The best thing about the Green Party was that it did not pretend to have a full-blown dogma that made it regard the rest of the movement as something like business rivals and competitors.  What we did most distinctively and well was to point towards the ballot box as a means for getting the change we all wanted.  

What I'm reading here doesn't reflect that older sensibility.  People might have a clear idea in their own heads about what they mean when they use terms like "New Left," "socialism," "radical," "working within the democratic process," or "the Millennials," but it usually isn't at all the same thing that others have.  The implicit understanding smacks of that same kind of specialized language that reassures ourselves rather than communicate clearly to others.

Nobody has any exclusive monopoly over good intentions, positive ideas, and sound political instincts.  None are keepers of the True Flame...as opposed to the deluded Others shivering in the darkness around us.  Giving in to this tendency to build our own little treehouses keeps the Cheneys and their ilk sleeping easily at night.

ML
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Sun Jun  7 07:21:01 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:21:01 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party Goes
	National
In-Reply-To: <904292.40319.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <904292.40319.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CBB592519EE86B-C64-3FF8@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com>


 Dear Edward,

Very well put!

Alex 


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward <the_alliance47 at yahoo.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 7:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party Goes National













I think that the difference between the Green Party and P&F Party is clear and distinct. There will always be those who say the Greens are too radical and there will always be those who say the P&F folks are too radical, but in the end, I know why I am a Green. 

While some people may think that the New Left and socialism are going to come back with a vengeance, I can firmly say that if they want the support of the American youth, the New Left will be greatly disappointed. "Revolution" is no longer an appealing word to the Millennials. This is not to say that we are content with things the way they are, because we are not. However, many of us believe that we are able to work within the framework of the democratic process to achieve change. While everyone has seen that freeing the market has not equated with freeing the people, it would be equally
 erroneous to think that replacing the free market with the state will solve our problems. It is only the Green solution that synthesises economic growth with environmental sustainability can we provide our country with the correct path of development.

It is as important now as it has ever been to remain focused on where we are and where we want to go. An attempt to revive the New Left by a small group of Californians should not be a distraction, because it will not push us off course. Appealing to young Californians ought to be easier for us than anybody else, because we have Green on our side.

-edward



Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Peace and Freedom Party
??? Goes??? National
To: alexcathy at aol.com
Cc: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <176658.24416.qm at web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thank you. I agree.
Caroline

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com> wrote:


From: alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com>
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Peace and Freedom Party Goes National
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, gplac-forum at lists.cagreens.org, gpbc at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 3:33 PM



Dear Green Friends, 

An old friend in New York sent me the e-mail below.? It seems our comrades in the California Peace and
 Freedom Party are ambitious. 

I am sorry to see that.? A rival 3rd party sputtering tired 1960's "radical" 


clich?s is, in my opinion, *NOT* what the world needs now and will only confuse the issue. 

When I replied to my friend, Carol's e-mail I had to explain why I am a registered Green and not P&F.? I had to write down all the reasons why I think our 10 Key Values are not only *superior* to Democratic Party liberalism, but also *superior* to that old "New Left" stuff.? I wrote about some of the history of the Greens in Europe and around the world.? I told her about my conversations with Venezuelan Greens at the GP National Convention last summer in Chicago and why the Movimiento Ecol?gico de Venezuela reluctantly joi ned the opposition to Hugo Chavez. 

In my humble opinion, all systems based on the 19th Century model of industrial "civilization" are obsolete.? That means not only capitalist "liberalism" and
 "conservatism." It also means old-fashioned revolutionary socialism and all those little revolutionary nationalisms imitating British, French, Dutch, and Portuguese colonialism.? 

The global Green parties, or something like it, is what the world needs now even if we, ourselves, sometimes don't have sense enough to know it. 


Alex Walker



-----Original Message-----
From: Carol Hanisch 
To: . . .Alex Walker <AlexCathy at aol.com>; Cathy Deppe <CathyD at 9to5.org>
Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 6:27 am
Subject: California P & F Party goes national



So what do my California friends make of this?

http://peaceandfreedom.org/home/conference-invitation



Carol Hanisch
hanisch at verizon.net



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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Jun  7 09:21:34 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party
	GoesNational
Message-ID: <794271.80952.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

?I liked your sentence "Nobody has any exclusive?monopoly over good intentions, positive ideas, and sound political instincts." I believe that, too. I think that what is wrong with American politics today is that too many "major party" politicians have sold themselves to the highest bidders and are not operating on sound political instincts. I believe the greatest thing the Green Party, and hopefully, the PFP and other "minor parties" could do for this country would be to band together and work for public funding of elections.
Caroline

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Mark A. Lause <MLause at cinci.rr.com> wrote:


From: Mark A. Lause <MLause at cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party GoesNational
To: "Edward" <the_alliance47 at yahoo.com>, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 1:55 AM





My own predisposition is to avoid building another tiny inward-looking clubhouse in a movement that already has dozens of them.? 
I don't understand what the PFP sees as so special about itself.? We should suspect top-down announcement that a new group is starting with the right approach.? After all, it had the right approach, people not involved with them would naturally have replicated that approach at some point in the 40-year history of the PFP.? Nor do I understand Cynthia McKinney's launching of Dignity (a subject one would think would stir more discussion among Greens).?? Members of existing or aspiring groups justify their own separate existence with?a kind of specialized language to?distinguish their own understanding?from?those not in the group.? 
?
What is needed is?a current?defined by activity rather than dogmatic talk...one that doesn't have to?remind themselves continually?about?their values?because they are?evident in how?they functions.?? The best thing about the Green Party was that it did not pretend to have a full-blown dogma that made it regard the rest of the movement as something like business rivals and competitors.? What we did most distinctively and well was to point towards the ballot box as a means for getting the change we all wanted.? 
?
What I'm reading here doesn't reflect that older sensibility.? People might have a clear idea in?their own?heads?about what they mean when they use?terms like "New Left," "socialism," "radical," "working within the democratic process," or "the Millennials," but it usually isn't at all the same thing that others have.? The implicit understanding smacks of that same kind of specialized language that reassures ourselves rather than communicate clearly to others.
?
Nobody has any exclusive monopoly over good intentions, positive ideas,?and sound political instincts.? None are keepers of the True Flame...as opposed to the deluded Others shivering in the darkness around us.? Giving in to this tendency to build our own little treehouses keeps the Cheneys and their?ilk sleeping easily at night.
?
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From andi at wrytor.com  Sun Jun  7 08:08:53 2009
From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 08:08:53 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Upcoming Events & Should We Add a Gathering?
Message-ID: <DF38E55B-1EFE-4E9C-A128-2EDEE2BFD400@wrytor.com>

OK, Colleagues, here's what we've been cooking up?some of us more  
than others!

We have Juneteenth coming up on Sat/Sun June 20 & 21 in downtown San  
Jose.   (We need volunteers for this great happening!  See Tian to  
sign up for a time slot.)

Gay Pride March on Sunday, June 14th in San Jose, 9 - 10 AM.  (We  
need volunteers for this event!  Colorful!  Fun!)

Yard Sale at 1683 Nightingale Ave in Sunnyvale on Saturday, July  
25th!  ( Fun! Quirky!  Maybe even a raffle!  Food/snacks for  
volunteers! Bring sale stuff to keep until July 25th at 1683 Ngale  
ASAP!!  Call & leave message for Andrea at cell phone 408-306-1900 or  
send email soon!!! )

"Food for Thought" picnic on Saturday, August 22nd?more fun with  
Merriam and Caroline?and I do mean FUN!!!!  Volunteers needed!

Three Day Labor Event???  Probably not.

October Green Fair?we're in the driver's seat with Merriam as she  
sells tabling rights to other groups concerned with progressive  
politics and the environment!!

OK, with all this excitement going on, do we want to toss our Green  
hats in the ring to do the next Gathering?  Warner says we have to  
make up our minds and get the whole proposal as to location, food,  
lodging, budget, sessions, invited speakers, entertainment, etc. by   
August.  He also thinks it should be in Jan or Feb 2010.
Anyone interested?  Or are we all tapped out this year?

Let's hear it from y'all!

Andrea

From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 11:45:58 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party Goes
	National
Message-ID: <130856.16571.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi Mark,

I definitely agree that we should not be building an exclusive club of self-righteous people, but my original email was intended to share why I am a registered Green as opposed to another political party. I did not have the intention of saying that Greens are right and everyone else is wrong, but meant to say that the Green world view most closely matches my own.

Actions speak louder than words, like you mentioned, and I totally agree and I think the Greens have been doing a good job of that (e.g. single-payer action last week, opposing the War on Terror, etc.). What has worked in the past and will continue to work is for us to reach out and find allies (and form coalitions when necessary). There are many groups out there who are Green in one way or another, but might not realise it themselves. My experience organising on campus and working in DC last summer (and hopefully your own experience) confirmed that the progressive/Green movement has many facets and many people with passions in each of these facets. What I wanted to highlight in my original email is not that I want to ostracise other groups in general, but to know what we stand for and not be distracted with groups that are not our allies. They will always be out there, but it is more productive, in my opinion, to continue building our network with
 organisations with whom we can work to further Green values.

Dialogue within and without is very important, so I want to thank you for your thoughtful response :)

-edward



      
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From MLause at cinci.rr.com  Sun Jun  7 12:25:49 2009
From: MLause at cinci.rr.com (Mark A. Lause)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:25:49 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Peace and Freedom Party Goes
	National
In-Reply-To: <130856.16571.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <130856.16571.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DA7FB3ACB07C40A9871C1479D759D119@PC>

You wrote, "There are many groups out there who are Green in one way or another, but might not realise it themselves."

This couldn't be more true.  I'm very pleased to find we're essentially in accord.

Our challenge has always been to get those groups and individuals to realize this and to get them to act in concert at the polls.

Best,
Mark


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward 
  To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org ; MLause at cinci.rr.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: California Peace and Freedom Party Goes National


        Hi Mark,

        I definitely agree that we should not be building an exclusive club of self-righteous people, but my original email was intended to share why I am a registered Green as opposed to another political party. I did not have the intention of saying that Greens are right and everyone else is wrong, but meant to say that the Green world view most closely matches my own.

        Actions speak louder than words, like you mentioned, and I totally agree and I think the Greens have been doing a good job of that (e.g. single-payer action last week, opposing the War on Terror, etc.). What has worked in the past and will continue to work is for us to reach out and find allies (and form coalitions when necessary). There are many groups out there who are Green in one way or another, but might not realise it themselves. My experience organising on campus and working in DC last summer (and hopefully your own experience) confirmed that the progressive/Green movement has many facets and many people with passions in each of these facets. What I wanted to highlight in my original email is not that I want to ostracise other groups in general, but to know what we stand for and not be distracted with groups that are not our allies. They will always be out there, but it is more productive, in my opinion, to continue building our network with organisations with whom we can work to further Green values.

        Dialogue within and without is very important, so I want to thank you for your thoughtful response :)

        -edward
       

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From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 22:14:20 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 22:14:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] HR 676: Everybody In, Nobody Out?
Message-ID: <876505.35980.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Recent Development: We are one step closer to all three federal legislators in Santa Clara County supporting HR 676. Lofgren has signed on as a co-sponsor (May 2009), but was not a co-sponsor in the previous Congress (yay, we're making progress!)

Mike Honda has signed on again as a co-sponsor (Feb. 2009).

Eshoo still not signed on and was not a co-sponsor last time. Eshoo is a member of the House Subcommittee on Health within the Committee of Energy & Commerce. 

Pete Stark, whose district is up in Fremont, is the Chair of the House Subcommittee on Health in the Committee of Ways & Means, but he has never been a co-sponsor of HR 676 in either the 110th or 111th Congresses.

Both of these subcommittees currently have HR 676 referred to them by the House vote back in January.

Does anybody know where Speier stands on HR 676? (Lantos was a co-sponsor) Also, there are currently no co-sponsors for S.703 (Sanders).

Since Boxer is up for re-election in a little over a year, how are we targeting her to either co-sponsor S.703 or propose companion legislation for HR 676?

-edward


      
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  8 13:18:26 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:18:26 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] The Time Bomb is Ticking....
Message-ID: <BAY140-W6C3BA3363682745E6ED729E470@phx.gbl>



    The man accused of of murdering Dr. Tiller warns that further
violent events are planned.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/07/AR2009060701207.html

    Is it time to start readying the red-hot pokers?

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2009/6/7/151543/1624



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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Jun  9 07:26:02 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:26:02 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Thanks,
 'Progressive' Secular D.C.-Obsessed Democrats - L.A. Archdiocese
 Offers Summer School
Message-ID: <8CBB725594A8E62-B50-49@WEBMAIL-DY29.sysops.aol.com>








Dear Friends,





Eric Alterman is the media columnist for The Nation, weblogger for
MSNBC.com, and a "fellow" at the Center for American Progress (read:
Democratic Party Propaganda Factory). For 8 years he
signed off every column about the depredations of the Bush Regime with
a sarcastic "Thanks Again, Ralph."? 





Lately, I have read some griping among our religiously secular
"progressive" Democrats about Sonia Sotomayer's Roman Catholicism.?
Accordingly, by the application of Alterman's Harvard-Yale-Stanford-educated logic, I can write:





"Thanks again, 'progressive' secular Washington-obsessed Democrats.?
Thanks to your preoccupation with Washington gossip and your total
indifference to local government, the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los
Angeles, of all special interests, will have an opportunity to instruct a captive audience of up
to 200,000 public school students with summer school."





You see, here in One-Party Democratic Los Angeles, the grossly
incompetent Los Angeles Unified School District has cancelled summer
school for almost 200,000 students who'll be spending their summer days
on the hot L.A. streets.? Now comes an announcement that the Roman
Catholic schools in Southern California are prepared to welcome all
comers: 





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KABC TV IN LOS ANGELES, Monday, June 8, 2009.


 
L.A. Archdiocese Offers Summer School



by Lisa Hernandez






LOS ANGELES, Calif. (KABC) -- Cardinal Roger Mahony has announced
another option for Los Angeles Unified School District students whose
summer school classes were canceled due to the budget crisis. The
Archdiocese of Los Angeles is offering summer classes at local Catholic
schools.





"In speaking with Superintendent Cortines last week, I said that LAUSD
students would be most welcome to attend school classes being offered
at many of our Catholic secondary and elementary schools in the
Archdiocese of Los Angeles," said Cardinal Mahony during a news
conference at Our Lady of Loretta Elementary School. 





?School administrators say no matter the students' religious
background, private Catholic schools welcome all students interested in
learning. The schools also offer many of the same classes provided by
the LAUSD.





"Many of the schools do integrate some of the liturgical activities,
prayer services, things like that," said Pat Livingston, Superintendent
of Elementary Schools at Archdiocese of Los Angeles. "But I think you
would mostly find the focus on academic skills because that's what the
kids need to continue through the summer." 





?Dozens of Catholic schools around Southern California are participating in the program.





Tuition for a five-to-six week program ranges from $100 to $350
depending on the type of program. However, Cardinal Mahony says each of
the schools involved in the program will work individually with parents
who require financial assistance.





More than 200,000 students will be affected by the LAUSD's decision last month to cancel summer school this year. 








http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=6854326 





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Thanks again, "progressive" secular Washington-obsessed Democrats.? ? 








 


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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Jun  9 10:28:25 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:28:25 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What Do You Think About Cynthia McKinney's
	'Dignity' Statement?
Message-ID: <8CBB73ED4A487B4-770-5A8@WEBMAIL-MC04.sysops.aol.com>

Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney addressed a packed
house at St. Mary?s Church, in Harlem, on Sunday, May 31. Also sharing
the podium were Glen Ford and Margaret Kimberley, of Black Agenda
Report, Nellie Bailey, Harlem Tenants Council, Prof. Anthony Monteiro,
of the African American Studies Department, Temple University, and
writer/activist Mae Jackson. 

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? 

I have an
opinion, but I'd like to hear from others. Please leave a comment on Green Change

http://network.greenchange.org/blogs/8033-what-do-you-think-about-cynthia-mckinney-s-dignity-statement
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue Jun  9 12:01:20 2009
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:01:20 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who Has the Big GPSCC Banner? Needed for Gay
	Pride Parade this Sunday am
Message-ID: <bb9.45c7c2a9.37600b80@aol.com>

At last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, no one there knew who has  our big GPSCC 
banner.  We need it for our participation in Sanday morning's  Gay Pride 
march.
 
Whoever has this please reply.
 
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue Jun  9 12:11:49 2009
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 15:11:49 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Leaflets for Gay Pride Parade?
Message-ID: <ca6.484b81ab.37600df5@aol.com>

At last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, we discussed producing a  leaflet for 
handing out along the Gay Pride March this Sunday.  I don't  remember if 
anyone took responsibility for doing this.
 
After the meeting, Caroline drove me home and left a box of  materials and 
the button machine traveling suitcase.
 
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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Jun  9 12:45:43 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:45:43 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Pre-order a Bundle of Green Pages
	Now!]
Message-ID: <4A2EBBE7.9070704@charter.net>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[G-C-F] Pre-order a Bundle of Green Pages Now!
Date: 	Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:43:02 -0700
From: 	Mike Feinstein <mfeinstein at feinstein.org>
To: 	cal-forum at cagreens.org



-------- Original Message --------
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Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:03:49 -0400
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Jun  9 14:21:20 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:21:20 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Leaflets for Gay Pride Parade?
In-Reply-To: <ca6.484b81ab.37600df5@aol.com>
References: <ca6.484b81ab.37600df5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4A2ED250.1090603@aceweb.com>

I was thinking about making a "what we're doing soon" flyer. Tell me
of stuff you want to be on it. I'll try to throw something together on 
Thursday. I'm too busy before that.

Tian

WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
> At last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, we discussed producing a leaflet for 
> handing out along the Gay Pride March this Sunday.  I don't remember if 
> anyone took responsibility for doing this.
>  
> After the meeting, Caroline drove me home and left a box of materials 
> and the button machine traveling suitcase.
>  
> Warner
> 
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Coming up: BicycleMusicFestival.com on 6/20!


From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  9 14:34:11 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:34:11 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Israeli Peace Activist Sees Sea Change in Obama
	Speech
Message-ID: <BAY140-W203A1E4DBF0744B23103EF9E440@phx.gbl>



   "The American ship has turned," Uri Avnery writes, Obama has
uprooted the American Wild West myth, and "the pro-Israel lobby 
will never be the same."   

Thanks to Geoff Browning, of the United Campus Christian Ministry 
at Stanford, for forwarding this.


http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery06082009.html  




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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue Jun  9 16:51:39 2009
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 19:51:39 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
	Representatives
Message-ID: <c4c.42046607.37604f8b@aol.com>

During last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, there was discussion  about whether 
our GPCA Coordinating Committee member  and alternate could be chosen by 
delegates at a plenary or whether we are  required to use the rules we adopted 
a few years back.
 
My recollection is that when the GPSCC adopted Article 9  of its Bylaws, 
and San Mateo County adopted similar bylaws, we opted out  from the default 
procedure in the GPCA Bylaws.  Under those rules, any  candidate needs to be 
approved at meetings in each county.  In SCC, the  Bylaws state that the 
County Council has to put the matter on the agenda, there  needs to be 15 days 
notice, and the item has to be included in the emailed  agenda.
 
The change in procedure was based upon the collective sense  that a few 
delegates at a plenary should not have the responsibility or burden  of 
appointing a reluctant volunteer...  which had been the pre-existing  practice.  At 
least with required meetings, any candidate is required to  meet with each 
County GP and present their case that she or he is up to the  job.
 
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Tue Jun  9 17:27:19 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Re: How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
	Representatives
Message-ID: <36481.64526.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



--- On Tue, 6/9/09, Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net> wrote:


From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional Representatives
To: WB4D23 at aol.com
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:26 PM







Okay then, there needs to be a CC meeting 15 days before the next general meeting, somebody willing to do the job needs to be there, and somebody needs to get the agenda out in plenty of time. This is all going to have to happen short a council member--me. I could give you my cell phone number if it looks like the council is short of a quorum, or you could work with Wes, which would probably be easier, as I will be in the Blue Ridge mountains and may not get a signal. Good luck to you. Can I vote for Tian now?
Caroline

--- On Tue, 6/9/09, WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:


From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional Representatives
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 4:51 PM



During last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, there was discussion about whether our GPCA Coordinating?Committee member and alternate could be chosen by delegates at a plenary or whether we are required to use the rules we adopted a few years back.
?
My recollection is that when the GPSCC adopted Article 9 of?its Bylaws, and San Mateo County adopted similar bylaws, we opted out from the default procedure in the GPCA Bylaws.? Under those rules, any candidate needs to be approved at meetings in each county.? In SCC, the Bylaws state that the County Council has to put the matter on the agenda, there needs to be 15 days notice, and the item has to be included in the emailed agenda.
?
The change in procedure was based upon the collective sense that a few delegates at a plenary should not have the responsibility or burden of appointing a reluctant volunteer...? which had been the pre-existing practice.? At least with required meetings, any candidate is required to meet with each County GP and present their case that she or he is up to the job.
?
Warner
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From jims at greens.org  Tue Jun  9 19:31:09 2009
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:31:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Re: How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
 Representatives
In-Reply-To: <36481.64526.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <36481.64526.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A2F1AED.6050805@greens.org>

The County Council might want to consider the efficacy of a Regional Rep 
election at this time. For those not plugged into our structure, the Reg Rep 
is a person elected from the Santa Clara / San Mateo region to serve on the 
state Coordinating Committee.

As decided at last month's state meeting, the current Coordinating Committee 
is going to be replaced by a new body. This will likely occur by the end of 
the year, or perhaps early next year. Do you really want to put the effort 
into organizing an election just to replace me for the last 6 months of the CC?

You might also consider if replacing me - one the the party's best bureaucrats 
- during a major re-organization of the party infrastructure is in the best 
interest of the party.

This is being driven by Drew. He has harassed me relentlessly since I removed 
him from the regional list last year. He's succeeded in running me out of the 
local meetings, and is harassing me at state meetings. This is just more of 
his pettiness.

Jim





Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> 
> 
> --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, Caroline Yacoub /<carolineyacoub at att.net>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>     Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
>     Representatives
>     To: WB4D23 at aol.com
>     Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:26 PM
> 
>     Okay then, there needs to be a CC meeting 15 days before the next
>     general meeting, somebody willing to do the job needs to be there,
>     and somebody needs to get the agenda out in plenty of time. This is
>     all going to have to happen short a council member--me. I could give
>     you my cell phone number if it looks like the council is short of a
>     quorum, or you could work with Wes, which would probably be easier,
>     as I will be in the Blue Ridge mountains and may not get a signal.
>     Good luck to you. Can I vote for Tian now?
>     Caroline
> 
>     --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, WB4D23 at aol.com /<WB4D23 at aol.com>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>         From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
>         Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
>         Representatives
>         To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>         Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 4:51 PM
> 
>         During last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, there was discussion
>         about whether our GPCA Coordinating Committee member and
>         alternate could be chosen by delegates at a plenary or whether
>         we are required to use the rules we adopted a few years back.
>          
>         My recollection is that when the GPSCC adopted Article 9 of its
>         Bylaws, and San Mateo County adopted similar bylaws, we opted
>         out from the default procedure in the GPCA Bylaws.  Under those
>         rules, any candidate needs to be approved at meetings in each
>         county.  In SCC, the Bylaws state that the County Council has to
>         put the matter on the agenda, there needs to be 15 days notice,
>         and the item has to be included in the emailed agenda.
>          
>         The change in procedure was based upon the collective sense that
>         a few delegates at a plenary should not have the responsibility
>         or burden of appointing a reluctant volunteer...  which had been
>         the pre-existing practice.  At least with required meetings, any
>         candidate is required to meet with each County GP and present
>         their case that she or he is up to the job.
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 10 22:17:12 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:17:12 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] habitat conservation plan
Message-ID: <4A309358.3090500@sbcglobal.net>


You are invited to a community meeting for the

    Santa Clara Valley Habitat Plan

    Tuesday June 23-rd, 2009

    7 pm open house
    7:15 pm Presentation and Questions

    El Toro Room
    Morgan Hill community and Cultural Center
    17000 Monterey Road (at East Dunne Avenue)
    Morgan Hill, CA



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Jun 10 22:38:26 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:38:26 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Help! Volunteers needed for Junteenth
	GPSCC table.
Message-ID: <4A309852.1070908@aceweb.com>

Juneteenth is our big opportunity of the year to do outreach to the
African-American community via a Green Party table! It's a two day
event, and we need many volunteers to keep the table active without
burning anybody out. So far this is what we have:

Saturday setup: Andrea and ???????? (The festival officially starts
at noon, but we need to be there a bit before that to get a good spot.)

Saturday morning: Andrea and  ????????

Saturday noon-2PM: Andrea and Drew

Saturday 2PM-4PM: Drew and Fred(tentative)

Saturday 4PM-6PM: ??????? and ???????

Sunday:

Sunday noon to 2 PM: Tian and ??????

Sunday 2 PM to 4 PM: Drew and ??????

Sunday 4 PM to 6 PM: Drew and Tian

Sunday teardown: ???????? and Tian
        (We especially need somebody with a car to cart stuff off)

If you have the time anywhere that there are "???????", please let me
know so I can add you to the schedule.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Coming up: BicycleMusicFestival.com on 6/20!



From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu Jun 11 06:01:42 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:01:42 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party of Canada page as example of
	functional home page
In-Reply-To: <4A308A7A.6040504@feinstein.org>
References: <4A308A7A.6040504@feinstein.org>
Message-ID: <8CBB8ABE613C715-B4C-4D0@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com>

I have been told that some political campaigns have made good use of "social networking" software for really functional campaign web sites.? I have been that there are web sites where it is "easy" for volunteers to sign-on to specific organizing events.? Unfortunately, I have never actually seen any campaign web sites that even come close to such functionality.? In fact, to me, most campaign web sites tend to be cluttered with a lot of distracting "junk" (Peter Thottam's web sites are a mess even though he is obviously very proud of them).? 



Furthermore, Facebook political pages I've seen so far, have been disappointing, too. Then tend to be just static pages.? I haven't seen a Facebook political page yet with as much of a serious exchange of views as these conventional e-lists.? I like Facebook as a personal diversion, but I really don't think exchanging recipes or playing games like "What Musical Interval Are You?" is going to make a revolution. ? 



Does anybody on this list have examples of good web sites using "social networks" (e.g., really good Facebook pages, etc.). ? 





Alex Walker


----- Original Message Posted on GPCA Media Working Group -----

From: Mike Feinstein <mfeinstein at feinstein.org>

To: gpcamedia <gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>

Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 9:39 pm

Subject: Re: [GPCA-MediaComm] Green Party of Canada page as example of functional home page











Examples of

'media kit' for Frank de Jong,
party leader of the Green Party of Ontario
http://www.gpo.ca/node/130
http://www.gpo.ca/node/26


'people pages on their site'

Elizabeth May, Leader, Green Part of Canada
http://greenparty.ca/en/about-us/elizabeth-may


Others
http://www.gpo.ca/node/1289
http://www.gpo.ca/node/1711
http://www.gpo.ca/node/1999
http://www.janesterk.ca/2009-campaign/candidate.html
http://www.greenparty.bc.ca/jane-sterk
http://www.greenparty.bc.ca/drina-read
http://www.gpo.ca/node/1709
http://www.gpo.ca/node/32
http://www.gpo.ca/node/1035
http://www.gpo.ca/node/2010
http://www.gpo.ca/node/2005


and blogs

http://www.gpo.ca/blogs/leaders
http://www.gpo.ca/node/1825

http://www.gpo.ca/blogs/campaign


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From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu Jun 11 08:03:32 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:03:32 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What's Up with Cynthia McKinney?
Message-ID: <8CBB8BCEAF44FA5-B4C-B47@webmail-md10.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends, 

Is anyone here in direct communication with Cynthia McKinney?? 

Can anyone here tell me exactly what's up with Cynthia?? 

We are planning a major Green Push in Los Angeles in 2010.? I need to know if Cynthia McKinney is still working with the Green Party or not.? 

I read here statement posted below at the Dignity Kick-off in Harlem and also a statement in April posted on Voxunion.com. 

In the two statements, Sister Cynthia says good things about "my Power to the People campaign" and goes out of her way to praise a teeny, tiny, leftwing cult like the "All African People?s Revolutionary Party."? However, Sister Cynthia does not utter a single, mumbling word about the Green Party of the United States.? In her remarks Cynthia, rightly in my opinion, condemns Gavin Newsom, San Francisco's ambitious playboy Mayor and Jerry Brown, California Attorney General, former governor, former Oakland mayor, and our leading chronic campaigner.? However, Sister Cynthia nowhere mentions that we have a strong Green Party in the San Francisco Bay area that has fought both of these overrated corporate Democrats for years.? She could at least have said something "nice" about Sister Aimee Allison's great campaign for Oakland City Council during the Brown regime and Matt Gonzalez hairsbreath loss to Gavin Newsom for San Francisco mayor.

What's up with that?? I don't get it.? When I supported Cynthia McKinney for the Green Party nomination last year, I heard 
some people who were afraid that Cynthia McKinney would be "another Ralph Nader," that is, another celebrity politician using the Green Party's ballot status while otherwise doing nothing to build the Greens into a real alternative to the cursed Democrats.? 

What's up with this?? What is going on here?? 


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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13843 

"WHICH WAY FORWARD FOR THE BLACK LEFT?" 
Posted on Global Research, June 11, 2009 


Thank you all for being here. 

On Thursday, General Taguba spoke to journalists and said that the photos currently being withheld by President Obama show rape. On Friday, he went even further and said that he saw video of U.S. soldiers raping and sodomizing detainees. From the first batch of photos that were released, we know that detainees were also murdered. In your name and mine. 

But some of us here in the U.S. are not shocked or surprised that this kind of behavior could occur. For those of us who have our eyes open, the gritty streets of America are filled with the experience of unarmed black and brown men being beaten, raped, sodomized, and even murdered by terroristic agents of the state. 

We remember the Black Panther Party, Malcolm X, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Kwame Tour?. We remember George Jackson, Soledad and Attica. We remember the American Indian Movement, the Puerto R
ican Independistas, the Chicano Movement, and we remember the FBI. We know about Area A in Chicago and we?ve heard the San Francisco 8 recount for us their experiences of torture at the hands of law enforcement. We?ve heard them tell how 30 years later, the very same people who tortured them showed up on their doorsteps to re-arrest them for crimes they did not commit. 

So when General Taguba verifies that torture, rape, and murder were used by U.S. service men and women, we cannot be surprised. 

When we see Dick Cheney say that torture worked, we in this audience, are not surprised. 

The gritty streets of America are filled with the experience of unarmed black and brown men being beaten, raped, sodomized, and even murdered by terroristic agents of the state.? 

When we hear that Democratic Attorney General Jerry Brown who allowed the San Francisco 8 prosecution to move forward is rumored to want to be the Governor of California, and expects our votes to win, we are not surprised. 

Or that Gavin Newsome, current mayor of San Francisco who is abetting the ethnic cleansing of the last remaining black neighborhood in that city wants to be Governor and expects black, brown, and progressive white votes, we are not surprised. 

So, when yet another young man is gunned down by the police, be it Oscar Grant in Oakland or Omar Edwards in New York City, and the policy doesn?t change to stop it. We shouldn?t be surprised. 

The authorities have proven that
 they will do everything and more if the people let them get away with it. 

Our President has breathed new life into the Democratic Party. But the fact is, our precious breath, that gives that Party life, is killing us. 

Glen Ford, Roy Singham, Dedon Kamathi of the All African People?s Revolutionary Party, and I all came together earlier this year, to not only lament the present, but to change the future. We decided that while our movement was nascent, coming out of my Power to the People campaign, that there was power in organization. That there was hope in mobilization. And that victory was possible in implementation. We agreed to found an action organization and to call it Dignity. 

There will be some who will maintain that this country, founded as a settler state, never had any dignity since it rested on taking and not sharing land that belonged to someone else. 

"We decided that while our movement was nascent, coming out of my Power to the People campaign." 

After deep engagement in slavery, the take-over of whole countries, denial of self-determination, and endless war and occupation, still others would say that our country has certainly lost whatever dignity it might have been able at one time to earn. 

And after Abu Ghraib, dignity is no longer possible. 

For about ten years, I went around the country proclaiming the black body politic to be at first moribund, then comatose. I now see the same fate awaiting the Progressive community even as we witness ongoing 
war, even ramping up the war machine during the greatest transfer of wealth out of black and brown communities by the wholesale theft of people?s homes. 

Bait and switch schemes, whitewashing, and red herrings shouldn?t be left for the people alone to decipher as they are also trying to save themselves from drowning. Some of us know what?s going on and we?re organizing Dignity in order to inform and then stop it. 

We are tired of watching politicians acknowledge our pain, win office, and then go about their business adding more to the existing pain. 

We can change the policies only by changing the nature of the debate that leads up to the selection of our policymakers. That means that we must have a way to get our message out independent of CNN, FOX, the New York Times, Clear Channel, or Public Radio. People must know in advance what the issues are, what the possibilities of policy are, and be informed, correctly, not only in slick Madison Avenue style campaigns designed to mislead. We need media of our own. 

"I went around the country proclaiming the black body politic to be at first moribund, then comatose." 

And finally, we need actions that serve as a wake-up call to all of our elected officials that for a critical number of us, and Glen just happens to believe that we have the right number of people supporting us in general now, business as usual is over. 

We have brains, we have brawn, and we?ve got guts. But is that enough? 


We?ve learned from our neighbors to our South, from Mexico, Cuba, and Haiti; Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Nicaragua that we don?t have to settle for less than what we need from politics. 

And I?m tired of feeling trapped in the politics of self-abnegation. If people in other parts of the world can do it, then we must be able to do it, too. That remains to be seen, however. 

So, Dignity is attempting to show that real change is possible. 

Dignity will show that just voting for special interest politicians who reflect special interest political parties in new faces is not enough. 

It is clear that some people are satisfied with that, but we demand more. 

Honestly, I called Glen, ready to give up, saying that I?ve done what I could do. And Glen, then Dedon, then Roy, and so many others across our country said, no. People began contacting me personally, as if they could sense what I was feeling. They started adding comments on our youtube videos, and I know many people are talking among themselves, expressing disappointment in whispered tones with the direction so far of the Obama Administration. ?Dignity is attempting to show that real change is possible.? 

I was saddened to read a message from Cindy Sheehan saying that she won?t run against Pelosi next election. That?s a big blow to us and I hope she will reconsider. 

Who was it that said the race goes not to the swift but to he who can endure? 

I?m willin
g to try one more thing, one more time. And Dignity is our effort to endure; to deliver a much-needed victory to the people. Before it?s too late. 

Please support us with your money, your brain, and your time. 

Please be sure to sign in. In the days ahead, we will contact you. You all have networks. We want to organize networks so that we can relay information quickly to a large number of people. 

Because of your contributions today, Dignity soon will have an internet presence and a weekly television show. We intend to have a distribution mechanism so that our supporters can place our television show on cable access stations across the country; we want to be on the radio, and we also want to be in the faces of the people who got our votes or have authority over our tax dollars and who continue to disappoint us. 

We are not abused spouses turning the other cheek for another slap in the face. We are individuals who know that this country can be better because we still have faith in the good will and the values of the American people. 

Help us organize Dignity, and with dignity, we will stand up for our rights! 

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http://www.voxunion.com/?p=1085
Obama and "Buyer?s Remors
e" by Cynthia McKinney
Posted on Voxunion.com, April 8, 2009 

Of late, I?m been approached by four types of voters: one voter type knew about our Power to the People campaign and enthusiastically supported it. They find themselves in the position of not wanting to say, ?I told you so? too loudly, but certainly say it among themselves and to each other.

Increasingly, though, there?s another type of voter that is contacting me, expressing ?Buyer?s Remorse? for having supported candidate Barack Obama. These voters can be futher subdivided into three categories: those who voted for Obama, not knowing very much about our Power to the People campaign; those who voted for Obama, knowing a lot about Rosa, me, and the Power to the People campaign, but who chose instead to vote for Obama out of fear of a McCain/Palin White House; and finally, those who knew about our Power to the People campaign and were hostile to it because they were suspicious that our campaign was designed to deny the White House to candidate Obama?the spoiler campaign. Fortunately and hopefully, because of the integrity with which we ran our campaign, those in this latter category are few in terms of their numbers in communication with me.

For me, the number of people contacting me expressing regret for having voted for Obama is a double-edged sword. That is, it indicates that prior to the election, we were not able to seal the deal with a significant number of our natural voters. There
 are many reasons for that, but being severely underfunded lies at the base of that failing. However, on the other hand, these expressions of ?buyer?s remorse? indicate that people knowingly allowed themselves to be swept into the voting booth and vote against their values.

I am happy that more and more people are freely expressing their support for the platform of the Power to the People campaign. I am extremely happy that more and more people express their interest in supporting me in another political endeavor, be it another Congressional or White House run. I am particularly pleased that people are willing to explore the possibilities that politics outside the box of two-party conformity can provide. But I have to admit that I am saddened by the fact that so many people fail to understand that in the transaction of a political election, there is no warranty for ?buyer?s remorse.? The crescendo of well-financed political propaganda is all geared toward achieving the desired result on election day and there is no denouement.

The desired result is to have as many voters as possible stay within the political confines of either of the two special interest parties because their candidates have already been vetted and have agreed to certain restrictions in the area of public policy. That?s why our Power to the People campaign was the only one talking about instituting full employment and a living wage, subsidizing education through college so that students would not have20to take out loans to go to college, creating green jobs (like solar panel manufacture) in neighborhoods blighted by abandoned big box buildings, having former Comptroller of the U.S. David Walker perform audits of the companies that got bailout money, nationalizing the Federal Reserve, creating publicly owned neighborhood banks, thereby finally creating an economy that worked for the people instead of the special interests. And shutting down the military-industrial complex?s Empire America.

Our agenda provided a clear route to an end to torture, rendition for torture, warrantless wiretapping, spying on U.S. citizen activists, and an end to war. Not just an end to the war on terror, but a clear end to war and occupation. And now that the Obama Administration has used its Justice Department to argue in court in favor of those who ordered torture, and to defend Bush Administration policies of torture, rendition, warrantless wiretapping, and extra-legal treatment of so-called ?enemy combatants,? most of whom have committed no crime (like six-year Guantanamo Prisoner number 345, Sami El-Hajj, who was on the Dignity with me as I tried to make it to Gaza). On these issues, the Obama Administration is consonant with the Bush Administration. No wonder Bush et al have more to worry about from the ?small-d? democrats in Spain than from the ?big-D? Democrats in Washington, DC.

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From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:06:41 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] I have 24/7 WIFI until July 21 (At the Stanford
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Jun 12 09:35:45 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:35:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Leading from the Front
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Fri Jun 12 18:58:38 2009
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:58:38 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gay Pride Parade This Sunday Morning
Message-ID: <d23.42c7b71d.376461ce@aol.com>

 
Cameron has dropped off the big GPSCC banner...    Tian:  Did you create 
some leaflets for this event?  Who all is  planning on showing up so we have a 
good showing of bodies behind the  banner?   Warner
 
 
In a message dated 6/6/2009 11:22:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net writes:

Dear San  Jose Pride Parade Entrants:

You have been accepted in the San Jose  Pride 2009 Parade. 
You need to check in at the corner of West St. John and  Market Street
between 8 AM and 9AM on Sunday June 14th.

Any  questions call us at 408 505 1725.





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From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:40:35 GMT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gay Pride Parade This Sunday Morning
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I will march in the parade.  I'll be there to line up between 8 and 9 AM.

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Cameron has dropped off the big GPSCC banner...    Tian:  Did you create 
some leaflets for this event?  Who all is  planning on showing up so we have a 
good showing of bodies behind the  banner?   Warner
 
 
In a message dated 6/6/2009 11:22:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net writes:

Dear San  Jose Pride Parade Entrants:

You have been accepted in the San Jose  Pride 2009 Parade. 
You need to check in at the corner of West St. John and  Market Street
between 8 AM and 9AM on Sunday June 14th.

Any  questions call us at 408 505 1725.





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From mnsunday at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 11 08:09:27 2009
From: mnsunday at yahoo.com (Morning Sunday)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:09:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPBC] What's Up with Cynthia McKinney?
Message-ID: <228140.15496.qm@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Cynthia Mckinney has a face book page, unfortunately, Cynthia didnt receive a awful lot of support for her campaign, I didnt see the fundraisers i thought I would see, or the? state by state support, I thought she'd garner. however, if you go to the facebook and look for her and contacts are on line

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com> wrote:

From: alexcathy at aol.com <alexcathy at aol.com>
Subject: [GPBC] What's Up with Cynthia McKinney?
To: gplac-forum at lists.cagreens.org, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, gpca-mediawg at lists.cagreens.org, gpbc at googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:03 AM

Dear Green Friends, 



Is anyone here in direct communication with Cynthia McKinney?? 



Can anyone here tell me exactly what's up with Cynthia?? 



We are planning a major Green Push in Los Angeles in 2010.? I need to know if Cynthia McKinney is still working with the Green Party or not.? 



I read here statement posted below at the Dignity Kick-off in Harlem and also a statement in April posted on Voxunion.com. 



In the two statements, Sister Cynthia says good things about "my Power to the People campaign" and goes out of her way to praise a teeny, tiny, leftwing cult like the "All African People?s Revolutionary Party."? However, Sister Cynthia does not utter a single, mumbling word about the Green Party of the United States.? In her remarks Cynthia, rightly in my opinion, condemns Gavin Newsom, San Francisco's ambitious playboy Mayor and Jerry Brown, California Attorney General, former governor, former Oakland mayor, and our leading chronic campaigner.? However, Sister Cynthia nowhere mentions that we have a strong Green Party in the San Francisco Bay area that has fought both of these overrated corporate Democrats for years.? She could at least have said something "nice" about Sister Aimee Allison's great campaign for Oakland City Coun
cil during the Brown regime and Matt Gonzalez hairsbreath loss to Gavin Newsom for San Francisco mayor.



What's up with that?? I don't get it.? When I supported Cynthia McKinney for the Green Party nomination last year, I heard some people who were afraid that Cynthia McKinney would be "another Ralph Nader," that is, another celebrity politician using the Green Party's ballot status while otherwise doing nothing to build the Greens into a real alternative to the cursed Democrats.? 



What's up with this?? What is going on here?? 





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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13843 



"WHICH WAY FORWARD FOR THE BLACK LEFT?" 

Posted on Global Research, June 11, 2009 





Thank you all for being here. 



On Thursday, General Taguba spoke to journalists and said that the photos currently being withheld by President Obama show rape. On Friday, he went even further and said that he saw video of U.S. soldiers raping and sodomizing detainees. From the first batch of photos that were released, we know that detainees were also murdered. In your name and mine. 



But some of us here in the U.S. are not shocked or surprised that this kind of behavior could occur.20For those of us who have our eyes open, the gritty streets of America are filled with the experience of unarmed black and brown men being beaten, raped, sodomized, and even murdered by terroristic agents of the state. 



We remember the Black Panther Party, Malcolm X, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Kwame Tour?. We remember George Jackson, Soledad and Attica. We remember the American Indian Movement, the Puerto Rican Independistas, the Chicano Movement, and we remember the FBI. We know about Area A in Chicago and we?ve heard the San Francisco 8 recount for us their experiences of torture at the hands of law enforcement. We?ve heard them tell how 30 years later, the very same people who tortured them showed up on their doorsteps to re-arrest them for crimes they did not commit. 



So when General Taguba verifies that torture, rape, and murder were used by U.S. service men and women, we cannot be surprised. 



When we see Dick Cheney say that torture worked, we in this audience, are not surprised. 



The gritty streets of America are filled with the experience of unarmed black and brown men being beaten, raped, sodomized, and even murdered by terroristic agents of the state.? 



When we hear that Democratic Attorney General Jerry Brown who allowed the San Francisco 8 prosecution to move forward is rumored to want to be the Governor of California, and expects our votes to win, we are not surprised. 



Or that Gavin Newsome, current mayo
r of San Francisco who is abetting the ethnic cleansing of the last remaining black neighborhood in that city wants to be Governor and expects black, brown, and progressive white votes, we are not surprised. 



So, when yet another young man is gunned down by the police, be it Oscar Grant in Oakland or Omar Edwards in New York City, and the policy doesn?t change to stop it. We shouldn?t be surprised. 



The authorities have proven that they will do everything and more if the people let them get away with it. 



Our President has breathed new life into the Democratic Party. But the fact is, our precious breath, that gives that Party life, is killing us. 



Glen Ford, Roy Singham, Dedon Kamathi of the All African People?s Revolutionary Party, and I all came together earlier this year, to not only lament the present, but to change the future. We decided that while our movement was nascent, coming out of my Power to the People campaign, that there was power in organization. That there was hope in mobilization. And that victory was possible in implementation. We agreed to found an action organization and to call it Dignity. 



There will be some who will maintain that this country, founded as a settler state, never had any dignity since it rested on taking and not sharing land that belonged to someone else. 



"We decided that while our movement was nascent, coming out of my Power to the People campaign." 



After deep engagement
 in slavery, the take-over of whole countries, denial of self-determination, and endless war and occupation, still others would say that our country has certainly lost whatever dignity it might have been able at one time to earn. 



And after Abu Ghraib, dignity is no longer possible. 



For about ten years, I went around the country proclaiming the black body politic to be at first moribund, then comatose. I now see the same fate awaiting the Progressive community even as we witness ongoing war, even ramping up the war machine during the greatest transfer of wealth out of black and brown communities by the wholesale theft of people?s homes. 



Bait and switch schemes, whitewashing, and red herrings shouldn?t be left for the people alone to decipher as they are also trying to save themselves from drowning. Some of us know what?s going on and we?re organizing Dignity in order to inform and then stop it. 



We are tired of watching politicians acknowledge our pain, win office, and then go about their business adding more to the existing pain. 



We can change the policies only by changing the nature of the debate that leads up to the selection of our policymakers. That means that we must have a way to get our message out independent of CNN, FOX, the New York Times, Clear Channel, or Public Radio. People must know in advance what the issues are, what the possibilities of policy are, and be informed, correctly, not only in slick Madison Ave
nue style campaigns designed to mislead. We need media of our own. 



"I went around the country proclaiming the black body politic to be at first moribund, then comatose." 



And finally, we need actions that serve as a wake-up call to all of our elected officials that for a critical number of us, and Glen just happens to believe that we have the right number of people supporting us in general now, business as usual is over. 



We have brains, we have brawn, and we?ve got guts. But is that enough? 



We?ve learned from our neighbors to our South, from Mexico, Cuba, and Haiti; Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Nicaragua that we don?t have to settle for less than what we need from politics. 



And I?m tired of feeling trapped in the politics of self-abnegation. If people in other parts of the world can do it, then we must be able to do it, too. That remains to be seen, however. 



So, Dignity is attempting to show that real change is possible. 



Dignity will show that just voting for special interest politicians who reflect special interest political parties in new faces is not enough. 



It is clear that some people are satisfied with that, but we demand more. 



Honestly, I called Glen, ready to give up, saying that I?ve done what I could do. And Glen, then Dedon, then Roy, and so many others across our country said, no. People began contacting me personally, as if they could sense what=2
0I was feeling. They started adding comments on our youtube videos, and I know many people are talking among themselves, expressing disappointment in whispered tones with the direction so far of the Obama Administration. ?Dignity is attempting to show that real change is possible.? 



I was saddened to read a message from Cindy Sheehan saying that she won?t run against Pelosi next election. That?s a big blow to us and I hope she will reconsider. 



Who was it that said the race goes not to the swift but to he who can endure? 



I?m willing to try one more thing, one more time. And Dignity is our effort to endure; to deliver a much-needed victory to the people. Before it?s too late. 



Please support us with your money, your brain, and your time. 



Please be sure to sign in. In the days ahead, we will contact you. You all have networks. We want to organize networks so that we can relay information quickly to a large number of people. 



Because of your contributions today, Dignity soon will have an internet presence and a weekly television show. We intend to have a distribution mechanism so that our supporters can place our television show on cable access stations across the country; we want to be on the radio, and we also want to be in the faces of the people who got our votes or have authority over our tax dollars and who continue to disappoint us. 



We are not abused spouses turning the othe
r cheek for another slap in the face. We are individuals who know that this country can be better because we still have faith in the good will and the values of the American people. 



Help us organize Dignity, and with dignity, we will stand up for our rights! 



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http://www.voxunion.com/?p=1085

Obama and "Buyer?s Remorse" by Cynthia McKinney

Posted on Voxunion.com, April 8, 2009 



Of late, I?m been approached by four types of voters: one voter type knew about our Power to the People campaign and enthusiastically supported it. They find themselves in the position of not wanting to say, ?I told you so? too loudly, but certainly say it among themselves and to each other.



Increasingly, though, there?s another type of voter that is contacting me, expressing ?Buyer?s Remorse? for having supported candidate Barack Obama. These voters can be futher subdivided into three categories: those who voted for Obama, not knowing very much about our Power to the People campaign; those who voted for Obama, knowin
g a lot about Rosa, me, and the Power to the People campaign, but who chose instead to vote for Obama out of fear of a McCain/Palin White House; and finally, those who knew about our Power to the People campaign and were hostile to it because they were suspicious that our campaign was designed to deny the White House to candidate Obama?the spoiler campaign. Fortunately and hopefully, because of the integrity with which we ran our campaign, those in this latter category are few in terms of their numbers in communication with me.



For me, the number of people contacting me expressing regret for having voted for Obama is a double-edged sword. That is, it indicates that prior to the election, we were not able to seal the deal with a significant number of our natural voters. There are many reasons for that, but being severely underfunded lies at the base of that failing. However, on the other hand, these expressions of ?buyer?s remorse? indicate that people knowingly allowed themselves to be swept into the voting booth and vote against their values.



I am happy that more and more people are freely expressing their support for the platform of the Power to the People campaign. I am extremely happy that more and more people express their interest in supporting me in another political endeavor, be it another Congressional or White House run. I am particularly pleased that people are willing to explore the possibilities that politics outside the box of two-party conformity c
an provide. But I have to admit that I am saddened by the fact that so many people fail to understand that in the transaction of a political election, there is no warranty for ?buyer?s remorse.? The crescendo of well-financed political propaganda is all geared toward achieving the desired result on election day and there is no denouement.



The desired result is to have as many voters as possible stay within the political confines of either of the two special interest parties because their candidates have already been vetted and have agreed to certain restrictions in the area of public policy. That?s why our Power to the People campaign was the only one talking about instituting full employment and a living wage, subsidizing education through college so that students would not have to take out loans to go to college, creating green jobs (like solar panel manufacture) in neighborhoods blighted by abandoned big box buildings, having former Comptroller of the U.S. David Walker perform audits of the companies that got bailout money, nationalizing the Federal Reserve, creating publicly owned neighborhood banks, thereby finally creating an economy that worked for the people instead of the special interests. And shutting down the military-industrial complex?s Empire America.



Our agenda provided a clear route to an end to torture, rendition for torture, warrantless wiretapping, spying on U.S. citizen activists, and an end to war. Not just an end to the war on terror, but a clear end t
o war and occupation. And now that the Obama Administration has used its Justice Department to argue in court in favor of those who ordered torture, and to defend Bush Administration policies of torture, rendition, warrantless wiretapping, and extra-legal treatment of so-called ?enemy combatants,? most of whom have committed no crime (like six-year Guantanamo Prisoner number 345, Sami El-Hajj, who was on the Dignity with me as I tried to make it to Gaza). On these issues, the Obama Administration is consonant with the Bush Administration. No wonder Bush et al have more to worry about from the ?small-d? democrats in Spain than from the ?big-D? Democrats in Washington, DC.



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From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sat Jun 13 13:58:16 2009
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:58:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SJ Gay Pride Parade This Sunday Morning
In-Reply-To: <20090612.204035.11345.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
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Warner and Valerie I'll join you and see if I can bring some others tomorrow
between 8 AM and 9AM on Sunday June 14th. @ West St. John and  Market
Street in Downtown San Jose.


Green is Rainbow Rights!

Drew


On Fri, June 12, 2009 20:40, Valerie D. Face wrote:
> I will march in the parade.  I'll be there to line up between 8 and 9 AM.
>
> - Valerie Face
>
>
>

> Cameron has dropped off the big GPSCC banner...    Tian:  Did you create
> some leaflets for this event?  Who all is  planning on showing up so we
> have a
> good showing of bodies behind the  banner?   Warner
>
>

> In a message dated 6/6/2009 11:22:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Dear San  Jose Pride Parade Entrants:
>
> You have been accepted in the San Jose Pride 2009 Parade.
> You need to check in at the corner of West St. John and  Market Street
> between 8 AM and 9AM on Sunday June 14th.
>
> Any  questions call us at 408 505 1725.




From JamBoi at Greens.org  Sat Jun 13 14:23:48 2009
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:23:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Re: How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
 Representatives
In-Reply-To: <4A2F1AED.6050805@greens.org>
References: <36481.64526.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A2F1AED.6050805@greens.org>
Message-ID: <50162.76.126.236.53.1244928228.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Jim Stauffer wrote:
> This is being driven by Drew. He has harassed me relentlessly since I
> removed him from the regional list last year. He's succeeded in running
me out of the local meetings, and is harassing me at state meetings.
This is just more of his pettiness.

What utter rubbish.

Well I feel saddened that after an apparent point of positive movement by
Jim Stauffer to find it in his heart to work out a compromise w/ his
archenemy Mike Feinstein at the Venice Beach Plenary and (after some
uncalled for angry and aggressive behavior against me) ending the Plenary
in relative peace towards his fellow Greens including me, now writes this
garbage.  I thought we might be moving forward but I guess not.

No Jim, you were the one who announced that you didn't want to do this job
any more and you are the one who has failed to come to but one General
Meeting for almost a year now.  Those are your choices entirely
independent of me.  While its true that in complete pettiness you threw me
off the regional e-mail list and have failed to reinstate me, treating the
list and your positions as a petty tyrant, I have hardly raised a finger
to 'run you out'.  The factionalism you've participated in with Jo
Chamberlain and the Peter Camejo (R.I.P.) and Naderite / anti-Mike
Feinstein fanatics has run its course and now has very little support in
the party.  You find yourself increasingly isolated and your unGreen
angry, tyrannous, arbitrary behavior unaccepted in the Green Party as it
should never have been.

One of the first things you ever said to me when I came to a Green Party
meeting was to the effect that politics is a rough business and that if
people can not handle the heat they should not be in politics.  Since that
has apparently been your operating philosophy I guess that may mark your
exit from the Greens as well.  My preference would be that you just make
peace w/ the Greens around you including me but if a simple 'I'm sorry' is
just a phrase you can't ever bear to utter (unlike me since I've
apologized to you a number of times for things I did I didn't feel good
about later), and you find yourself unable to evolve, its much better for
the sake of the Party and all involved that you find another way for your
political involvement.  All the beaureaucratic skill and talent in the
world is destroyed by inability to play well with others.  We can witness
the exact same principle with Mike Feinstein himself.


Green is Negotiation!

Drew





On Tue, June 9, 2009 19:31, Jim Stauffer wrote:
> The County Council might want to consider the efficacy of a Regional Rep
> election at this time. For those not plugged into our structure, the Reg
> Rep
> is a person elected from the Santa Clara / San Mateo region to serve on
> the
> state Coordinating Committee.
>
> As decided at last month's state meeting, the current Coordinating
> Committee
> is going to be replaced by a new body. This will likely occur by the end
> of
> the year, or perhaps early next year. Do you really want to put the effort
> into organizing an election just to replace me for the last 6 months of
> the CC?
>
> You might also consider if replacing me - one the the party's best
> bureaucrats
> - during a major re-organization of the party infrastructure is in the
> best
> interest of the party.
>
> This is being driven by Drew. He has harassed me relentlessly since I
> removed
> him from the regional list last year. He's succeeded in running me out of
> the
> local meetings, and is harassing me at state meetings. This is just more
> of
> his pettiness.


>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, Caroline Yacoub /<carolineyacoub at att.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>>     Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
>>     Representatives
>>     To: WB4D23 at aol.com
>>     Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:26 PM
>>
>>     Okay then, there needs to be a Council meeting 15 days before the next
>>     general meeting, somebody willing to do the job needs to be there,
>>     and somebody needs to get the agenda out in plenty of time. This is
>>     all going to have to happen short a council member--me. I could give
>>     you my cell phone number if it looks like the council is short of a
>>     quorum, or you could work with Wes, which would probably be easier,
>>     as I will be in the Blue Ridge mountains and may not get a signal.
>>     Good luck to you. Can I vote for Tian now?
>>     Caroline
>>
>>     --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, WB4D23 at aol.com /<WB4D23 at aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
>>         Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
>>         Representatives
>>         To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>         Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 4:51 PM
>>
>>         During last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, there was discussion
>>         about whether our GPCA Coordinating Committee member and
>>         alternate could be chosen by delegates at a plenary or whether
>>         we are required to use the rules we adopted a few years back.
>>
>>         My recollection is that when the GPSCC adopted Article 9 of its
>>         Bylaws, and San Mateo County adopted similar bylaws, we opted
>>         out from the default procedure in the GPCA Bylaws.  Under those
>>         rules, any candidate needs to be approved at meetings in each
>>         county.  In SCC, the Bylaws state that the County Council has to
>>         put the matter on the agenda, there needs to be 15 days notice,
>>         and the item has to be included in the emailed agenda.
>>
>>         The change in procedure was based upon the collective sense that
>>         a few delegates at a plenary should not have the responsibility
>>         or burden of appointing a reluctant volunteer...  which had been
>>         the pre-existing practice.  At least with required meetings, any
>>         candidate is required to meet with each County GP and present
>>         their case that she or he is up to the job.
>>
>>         Warner
>



From andid at cagreens.org  Sat Jun 13 20:36:51 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:36:51 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SJ Gay Pride Parade This Sunday Morning
In-Reply-To: <50150.76.126.236.53.1244926696.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <20090612.204035.11345.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>
	<50150.76.126.236.53.1244926696.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <5D7980BC-BBC7-443D-8136-C468524FB6D9@cagreens.org>

I plan to be there too.  Leaving from the Stanford mansion and  
driving to the nearest light rail to go to downtown.
Andrea

On Jun 13, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Drew Johnson wrote:

> Warner and Valerie I'll join you and see if I can bring some others  
> tomorrow
> between 8 AM and 9AM on Sunday June 14th. @ West St. John and  Market
> Street in Downtown San Jose.
>
>
> Green is Rainbow Rights!
>
> Drew
>
>
> On Fri, June 12, 2009 20:40, Valerie D. Face wrote:
>> I will march in the parade.  I'll be there to line up between 8  
>> and 9 AM.
>>
>> - Valerie Face
>>
>>
>>
>
>> Cameron has dropped off the big GPSCC banner...    Tian:  Did you  
>> create
>> some leaflets for this event?  Who all is  planning on showing up  
>> so we
>> have a
>> good showing of bodies behind the  banner?   Warner
>>
>>
>
>> In a message dated 6/6/2009 11:22:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>
>> j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net writes:
>>
>> Dear San  Jose Pride Parade Entrants:
>>
>> You have been accepted in the San Jose Pride 2009 Parade.
>> You need to check in at the corner of West St. John and  Market  
>> Street
>> between 8 AM and 9AM on Sunday June 14th.
>>
>> Any  questions call us at 408 505 1725.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From andid at cagreens.org  Sat Jun 13 20:38:10 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:38:10 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Re: How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
	Representatives
In-Reply-To: <36481.64526.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <36481.64526.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0C23F7F6-32E7-4107-9E65-64F273604A82@cagreens.org>

Are we in that big a hurry to do this?  Can't it wait until Fall?
Andrea

On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:

>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net> wrote:
>
> From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional  
> Representatives
> To: WB4D23 at aol.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:26 PM
>
> Okay then, there needs to be a CC meeting 15 days before the next  
> general meeting, somebody willing to do the job needs to be there,  
> and somebody needs to get the agenda out in plenty of time. This is  
> all going to have to happen short a council member--me. I could  
> give you my cell phone number if it looks like the council is short  
> of a quorum, or you could work with Wes, which would probably be  
> easier, as I will be in the Blue Ridge mountains and may not get a  
> signal. Good luck to you. Can I vote for Tian now?
> Caroline
>
> --- On Tue, 6/9/09, WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
> Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional  
> Representatives
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 4:51 PM
>
> During last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, there was discussion about  
> whether our GPCA Coordinating Committee member and alternate could  
> be chosen by delegates at a plenary or whether we are required to  
> use the rules we adopted a few years back.
>
> My recollection is that when the GPSCC adopted Article 9 of its  
> Bylaws, and San Mateo County adopted similar bylaws, we opted out  
> from the default procedure in the GPCA Bylaws.  Under those rules,  
> any candidate needs to be approved at meetings in each county.  In  
> SCC, the Bylaws state that the County Council has to put the matter  
> on the agenda, there needs to be 15 days notice, and the item has  
> to be included in the emailed agenda.
>
> The change in procedure was based upon the collective sense that a  
> few delegates at a plenary should not have the responsibility or  
> burden of appointing a reluctant volunteer...  which had been the  
> pre-existing practice.  At least with required meetings, any  
> candidate is required to meet with each County GP and present their  
> case that she or he is up to the job.
>
> Warner
>
>
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From jims at greens.org  Sun Jun 14 16:05:07 2009
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:05:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Drew's Latest [WAS Re: How We Elect Silicon
	Valley Regional Representatives]
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Drew -

Has this behavior always worked for you? Just making up stories and 
fabricating lies about people? Has this gotten you what you want?

I love your comment about "ending the Plenary in relative peace..." I 
guess that peace was relative to your series of outbursts on the 
plenary floor and in the IT meeting. You certainly made the vibes 
watchers' job challenging. And thanks for the great job of 
representing this county with those embarrassing demonstrations.

Jim

P.S. I won't follow your lead in copying this thread to the cal-forum 
list. That's a typical example of your abuse of discussion lists.



Drew Johnson wrote:
> Jim Stauffer wrote:
>> This is being driven by Drew. He has harassed me relentlessly since I
>> removed him from the regional list last year. He's succeeded in running
> me out of the local meetings, and is harassing me at state meetings.
> This is just more of his pettiness.
> 
> What utter rubbish.
> 
> Well I feel saddened that after an apparent point of positive movement by
> Jim Stauffer to find it in his heart to work out a compromise w/ his
> archenemy Mike Feinstein at the Venice Beach Plenary and (after some
> uncalled for angry and aggressive behavior against me) ending the Plenary
> in relative peace towards his fellow Greens including me, now writes this
> garbage.  I thought we might be moving forward but I guess not.
> 
> No Jim, you were the one who announced that you didn't want to do this job
> any more and you are the one who has failed to come to but one General
> Meeting for almost a year now.  Those are your choices entirely
> independent of me.  While its true that in complete pettiness you threw me
> off the regional e-mail list and have failed to reinstate me, treating the
> list and your positions as a petty tyrant, I have hardly raised a finger
> to 'run you out'.  The factionalism you've participated in with Jo
> Chamberlain and the Peter Camejo (R.I.P.) and Naderite / anti-Mike
> Feinstein fanatics has run its course and now has very little support in
> the party.  You find yourself increasingly isolated and your unGreen
> angry, tyrannous, arbitrary behavior unaccepted in the Green Party as it
> should never have been.
> 
> One of the first things you ever said to me when I came to a Green Party
> meeting was to the effect that politics is a rough business and that if
> people can not handle the heat they should not be in politics.  Since that
> has apparently been your operating philosophy I guess that may mark your
> exit from the Greens as well.  My preference would be that you just make
> peace w/ the Greens around you including me but if a simple 'I'm sorry' is
> just a phrase you can't ever bear to utter (unlike me since I've
> apologized to you a number of times for things I did I didn't feel good
> about later), and you find yourself unable to evolve, its much better for
> the sake of the Party and all involved that you find another way for your
> political involvement.  All the beaureaucratic skill and talent in the
> world is destroyed by inability to play well with others.  We can witness
> the exact same principle with Mike Feinstein himself.
> 
> 
> Green is Negotiation!
> 
> Drew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, June 9, 2009 19:31, Jim Stauffer wrote:
>> The County Council might want to consider the efficacy of a Regional Rep
>> election at this time. For those not plugged into our structure, the Reg
>> Rep
>> is a person elected from the Santa Clara / San Mateo region to serve on
>> the
>> state Coordinating Committee.
>>
>> As decided at last month's state meeting, the current Coordinating
>> Committee
>> is going to be replaced by a new body. This will likely occur by the end
>> of
>> the year, or perhaps early next year. Do you really want to put the effort
>> into organizing an election just to replace me for the last 6 months of
>> the CC?
>>
>> You might also consider if replacing me - one the the party's best
>> bureaucrats
>> - during a major re-organization of the party infrastructure is in the
>> best
>> interest of the party.
>>
>> This is being driven by Drew. He has harassed me relentlessly since I
>> removed
>> him from the regional list last year. He's succeeded in running me out of
>> the
>> local meetings, and is harassing me at state meetings. This is just more
>> of
>> his pettiness.
> 
> 
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, Caroline Yacoub /<carolineyacoub at att.net>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>>>     Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
>>>     Representatives
>>>     To: WB4D23 at aol.com
>>>     Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:26 PM
>>>
>>>     Okay then, there needs to be a Council meeting 15 days before the next
>>>     general meeting, somebody willing to do the job needs to be there,
>>>     and somebody needs to get the agenda out in plenty of time. This is
>>>     all going to have to happen short a council member--me. I could give
>>>     you my cell phone number if it looks like the council is short of a
>>>     quorum, or you could work with Wes, which would probably be easier,
>>>     as I will be in the Blue Ridge mountains and may not get a signal.
>>>     Good luck to you. Can I vote for Tian now?
>>>     Caroline
>>>
>>>     --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, WB4D23 at aol.com /<WB4D23 at aol.com>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
>>>         Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
>>>         Representatives
>>>         To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>>         Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 4:51 PM
>>>
>>>         During last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, there was discussion
>>>         about whether our GPCA Coordinating Committee member and
>>>         alternate could be chosen by delegates at a plenary or whether
>>>         we are required to use the rules we adopted a few years back.
>>>
>>>         My recollection is that when the GPSCC adopted Article 9 of its
>>>         Bylaws, and San Mateo County adopted similar bylaws, we opted
>>>         out from the default procedure in the GPCA Bylaws.  Under those
>>>         rules, any candidate needs to be approved at meetings in each
>>>         county.  In SCC, the Bylaws state that the County Council has to
>>>         put the matter on the agenda, there needs to be 15 days notice,
>>>         and the item has to be included in the emailed agenda.
>>>
>>>         The change in procedure was based upon the collective sense that
>>>         a few delegates at a plenary should not have the responsibility
>>>         or burden of appointing a reluctant volunteer...  which had been
>>>         the pre-existing practice.  At least with required meetings, any
>>>         candidate is required to meet with each County GP and present
>>>         their case that she or he is up to the job.
>>>
>>>         Warner
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From andid at cagreens.org  Sun Jun 14 19:11:48 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:11:48 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Gay Pride March Today a Success!
Message-ID: <EAEAA18A-92F2-4AE2-997B-024FCAEA3EC1@cagreens.org>

Hey, GP Colleagues,
We really had fun today!  We had a good group of Greens there for the  
Gay Pride march, and a number of us got there early and walked around  
to make friends with the various groups taking part. Once underway,  
we marched proudly past the reviewing stand with a summary (written  
partly from our platform on Gay rights) that was read by the parade  
Announcer to cheering from the crowd for the Green Party.

In fact, all along the route we received chants and applause for our  
group.  A half-sheet flyer (formatted and printed by TIAN and  
cleverly word-crafted by VALERIE FACE) showcased on one side our  
policy on Gay rights and the flip side featured the picnic.  DREW and  
WARNER carried our big banner, and VALERIE, TIAN, YVONNE, and ANDREA  
personally distributed the flyers with a special invitation to each  
recipient to attend our picnic.  We got lots of interest due to those  
invitations!  So, look out, CAROLINE & MERRIAM, we may have an  
overflow crowd at our picnic!!!

TIAN and VALERIE are planning another specially crafted half-sheet  
flyer for Juneteenth, so we are planning another exciting coup for  
the SCC GP!  Plan to be there for the fun and help us give them out  
with invitations to the picnic!!  Hmmm, wonder if we ought to include  
the Yard Sale on July 25????!!!  (Hint, hint!)

PS - I'm going to have to read the Send Line more carefully and not  
contribute any more *illegal* emails to groups I'm not authorized  
for!!  Sorry about that, Moderators.  {:-{
Andrea
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From andid at cagreens.org  Sun Jun 14 19:15:24 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:15:24 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Re: How We Elect Silicon Valley Regional
	Representatives
In-Reply-To: <4A2F1AED.6050805@greens.org>
References: <36481.64526.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A2F1AED.6050805@greens.org>
Message-ID: <6988CC27-E84F-4134-84FD-D28688C5D984@cagreens.org>

I really agree with this.  We have a great deal of energy going out  
for the entire summer on various projects that will bring in members  
and money to SCC GP, so I think the effort to do this *now* is going  
to interfere with all of that.
Let's think seriously about delaying it.
Andrea

On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote:

> The County Council might want to consider the efficacy of a  
> Regional Rep
> election at this time. For those not plugged into our structure,  
> the Reg Rep
> is a person elected from the Santa Clara / San Mateo region to  
> serve on the
> state Coordinating Committee.
>
> As decided at last month's state meeting, the current Coordinating  
> Committee
> is going to be replaced by a new body. This will likely occur by  
> the end of
> the year, or perhaps early next year. Do you really want to put the  
> effort
> into organizing an election just to replace me for the last 6  
> months of the CC?
>
> You might also consider if replacing me - one the the party's best  
> bureaucrats
> - during a major re-organization of the party infrastructure is in  
> the best
> interest of the party.
>
>
> Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, Caroline Yacoub /<carolineyacoub at att.net>/*  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>>     Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley  
>> Regional
>>     Representatives
>>     To: WB4D23 at aol.com
>>     Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 5:26 PM
>>
>>     Okay then, there needs to be a CC meeting 15 days before the next
>>     general meeting, somebody willing to do the job needs to be  
>> there,
>>     and somebody needs to get the agenda out in plenty of time.  
>> This is
>>     all going to have to happen short a council member--me. I  
>> could give
>>     you my cell phone number if it looks like the council is short  
>> of a
>>     quorum, or you could work with Wes, which would probably be  
>> easier,
>>     as I will be in the Blue Ridge mountains and may not get a  
>> signal.
>>     Good luck to you. Can I vote for Tian now?
>>     Caroline
>>
>>     --- On *Tue, 6/9/09, WB4D23 at aol.com /<WB4D23 at aol.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
>>         Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] How We Elect Silicon Valley  
>> Regional
>>         Representatives
>>         To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>         Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 4:51 PM
>>
>>         During last Wednesday's GPSCC meeting, there was discussion
>>         about whether our GPCA Coordinating Committee member and
>>         alternate could be chosen by delegates at a plenary or  
>> whether
>>         we are required to use the rules we adopted a few years back.
>>
>>         My recollection is that when the GPSCC adopted Article 9  
>> of its
>>         Bylaws, and San Mateo County adopted similar bylaws, we opted
>>         out from the default procedure in the GPCA Bylaws.  Under  
>> those
>>         rules, any candidate needs to be approved at meetings in each
>>         county.  In SCC, the Bylaws state that the County Council  
>> has to
>>         put the matter on the agenda, there needs to be 15 days  
>> notice,
>>         and the item has to be included in the emailed agenda.
>>
>>         The change in procedure was based upon the collective  
>> sense that
>>         a few delegates at a plenary should not have the  
>> responsibility
>>         or burden of appointing a reluctant volunteer...  which  
>> had been
>>         the pre-existing practice.  At least with required  
>> meetings, any
>>         candidate is required to meet with each County GP and present
>>         their case that she or he is up to the job.
>>
>>         Warner
>>
>>
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From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Jun 15 10:26:47 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:26:47 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [usgp-dx] The Healthcare War Is Now
	Official (Robert Reich)]
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From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Jun 15 10:27:35 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [usgp-dx] The Healthcare War Is Now
	Official (Robert Reich)]
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From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Jun 15 14:19:36 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:19:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Reform and an opponent?]
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Jun 16 08:32:48 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:32:48 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What Do You Think About Cynthia McKinney's
	'Dignity' Statement?
In-Reply-To: <8CBB73ED4A487B4-770-5A8@WEBMAIL-MC04.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CBB73ED4A487B4-770-5A8@WEBMAIL-MC04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CBBCAED63042BF-430-1B5@FWM-M39.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends, 









I checked out the Facebook page of the "Dignity Action Movement"
Cynthia McKinney is involved in and have been trying to research where the group is coming from.? 

















I am very happy to report that Dignity does seem like a good "Green" project. I
became a Facebook fan. 

















I honestly do not understand why at this stage of our struggle outstanding Black progressives
like Cynthia McKinney, Margaret Kimberley, and Glen Ford, people whose work I have admired for years, had to "frame" their Harlem
kickoff rally with tiresome obsolete 1960s "Black Power" separatism.? But with a deep sigh,? I
know I can't win that argument with my fellow 60's baby-boomers.















I have lately been reading a lot of stuff about the "political brain."? All the research indicates that the brains of even the most rational, reasonable people make judgements based on associations with past events.? Political partisans use facts and rationality not to form opinions but rather to reinforce previously held "gut" beliefs about values and principles, Indeed, Drew Westen, in his book "The Political Brain," wryly notes how many liberals have "an irrational emotional commitment to rationality." 



Many African-Americans that came of age in the tumultuous 1960s and 1970s have this "gut" belief that the only way to organize descendents of African slaves for progressive change is to reprise Elijah Muhammad's Nation of Islam, Malcolm X's Organization of African Unity, Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale's Black Panther Party, etc. And nevermind the inconvenient fact that none of those groups ever really represented the views of the overwhelming majority of African-Americans. I came of age in the 1960s also and I certainly am no better or wiser.? It's just that my experience working in peace and justice causes pushed me in a different direction.? Particularly here in California, the communities I worked in were just s-o-o-o-o diverse that after awhile it just didn't make any sense anymore to keep describing every situation under the sun as "Black" versus "White." ? 

But I know I can't win that argument (and even this "friendly" e-mail praising Dignity will likely trigger a new wave of accusations about my wicked "integrationist" vibes).? 

Anyway,  I have always thought Cynthia McKinney was a visionary and I still do. 



























Dignity Action Movement On Facebook



















URL:



















http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dignity-Action-Movement/108382693351?v=wall&viewas=1601286380#/pages/Dignity-Action-Movement/108382693351?v=wall&viewas=1601286380





Alex Walker
Los Angeles Greens 



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From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 16 23:57:42 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:57:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Single Payer Action
Message-ID: <869784.60070.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Obama wants to spend $1.6 trillion dollars to leave 30 million Americans uninsured. Kennedy wants to spend $1 trillion to leave even more uninsured. Baucus has an even more obscene healthcare plan.

Conyers wants to SAVE $350 billion and insure ALL Americans!

Ask Congress to support HR 676: http://sanders.senate.gov/petitions/index.cfm?uid=7fd59f2e-88e1-477a-8eaf-762a5b050809

-Edward



      
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 17 13:12:14 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:12:14 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda item for 1 July
Message-ID: <4A394E1E.70900@sbcglobal.net>

I have received a request to allocate 5 - 10 minutes for a speaker,
Ray Tanaka, who will make a pitch for KPFA.

Please put this item on the agenda for the July 1-st meeting..

Thanks,
Jim Doyle




From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Jun 17 15:26:20 2009
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:26:20 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who is doing setup for Juneteent this Saturday
	Morning?
Message-ID: <c1b.5259b13d.376ac78c@aol.com>

Who is doing set up for tabling at the Juneteent Festival this  Saturday 
morning?  I have the button machine and supplies and a box of  materials that 
Caroline left at my house.  I also have starter plants that  badly need to 
be transplanted.  I do not have any seed packets.  I  have the big GPSCC 
banner.  I do not have a donation jar.  What is the  volunteers schedule?
 
Warner  (408) 295-9353
 
**************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday! 
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222865043x1201494942/aol?redir=http:%2F%2F
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Wed Jun 17 15:39:05 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:39:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who is doing setup for Juneteent this Saturday
 Morning?
Message-ID: <4A397089.9000100@freeshell.org>

I'm scheduled for the 2-4-pm shift. I'll stay 'til 4:40 PM and catch the 
5 pm CalTrain to MV.

Fred

Who is doing set up for tabling at the Juneteent Festival this  Saturday
morning?  I have the button machine and supplies and a box of  materials 
that
Caroline left at my house.  I also have starter plants that  badly need to
be transplanted.  I do not have any seed packets.  I  have the big GPSCC
banner.  I do not have a donation jar.  What is the  volunteers schedule?

Warner  (408) 295-9353

**************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday!
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222865043x1201494942/aol?redir=http:%2F%2F
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Wed Jun 17 15:41:36 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:41:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who is doing setup for Juneteent this Saturday
 Morning?
Message-ID: <4A397120.9070404@freeshell.org>

Saturday, that is. fd

I'm scheduled for the 2-4-pm shift. I'll stay 'til 4:40 PM and catch the
5 pm CalTrain to MV.

Fred

Who is doing set up for tabling at the Juneteent Festival this  Saturday
morning?  I have the button machine and supplies and a box of  materials
that
Caroline left at my house.  I also have starter plants that  badly need to
be transplanted.  I do not have any seed packets.  I  have the big GPSCC
banner.  I do not have a donation jar.  What is the  volunteers schedule?

Warner  (408) 295-9353

**************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday!
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222865043x1201494942/aol?redir=http:%2F%2F
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From andid at cagreens.org  Wed Jun 17 21:35:29 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:35:29 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who is doing setup for Juneteent this
	Saturday Morning?
In-Reply-To: <c1b.5259b13d.376ac78c@aol.com>
References: <c1b.5259b13d.376ac78c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <711AEECA-B403-4398-B878-CA20E29A33DE@cagreens.org>

I think I signed up for that.
I need details on where to park and if there are passes for parking etc.
Also a map that shows the location of our booth.
Andrea

On Jun 17, 2009, at 3:26 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:

> Who is doing set up for tabling at the Juneteent Festival this  
> Saturday morning?  I have the button machine and supplies and a box  
> of materials that Caroline left at my house.  I also have starter  
> plants that badly need to be transplanted.  I do not have any seed  
> packets.  I have the big GPSCC banner.  I do not have a donation  
> jar.  What is the volunteers schedule?
>
> Warner  (408) 295-9353
>
>
> Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday!
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Jun 18 14:03:02 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:03:02 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] There was a great ribbon cutting in Mountain View
	on Saturday...
Message-ID: <4A3AAB86.4040503@aceweb.com>

We were commemorating the fact that the Stevens Creek Trail now goes
almost all of the way across Mountain View. See the ceremonies at:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/StevensCreekTrail/Unveiling.html

In other news, a week or so ago I enjoyed a lot of art on the edge of 
the digital world down in San Jose. Those pictures are at:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/ZeroOne/2009/index.html

In other other news, a week ago TASC had a fascinating talk on the
smart grid:

http://tian.greens.org/TASC/TheSmartGrid.html

Lately I've been trying out facebook. Anybody want a connection?
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added pictures and such from SubZERO in San Jose.
Lately I've been discovering facebook. So many connections to make!


From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Jun 18 15:15:15 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:15:15 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Help! Volunteers needed for Junteenth
 GPSCC table.
In-Reply-To: <296066.92349.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <296066.92349.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A3ABC73.3070508@aceweb.com>

This is what I have so far:

 >> Saturday setup: Andrea and Warner (The festival
 >> officially starts at noon, but we need to be
 >> there a bit before that to get a good spot.)
 >>
 >> Saturday noon-2PM: Andrea and Drew
 >>
 >> Saturday 2PM-4PM: Drew and Fred(tentative)
 >>
 >> Saturday 4PM-6PM: Tian and ???????
Note: I would love to just show up on Sunday. I'll do this
if I can't get a replacement for this shift.
 >>
 >> Sunday:
 >>
 >> Sunday noon to 2 PM: Valerie and Jodi
 >>
 >> Sunday 2 PM to 4 PM: Drew and ??????
 >>
 >> Sunday 4 PM to 6 PM: Drew and Tian
 >>
 >> Sunday teardown: Cameron (with car) and Tian

If you have the time, please volunteer to be the name instead
of the "??????"
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added pictures and such from SubZERO in San Jose.
Lately I've been discovering facebook. So many connections to make!


From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu Jun 18 17:29:36 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:29:36 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Schwarzenegger - Bush Republican Comes "Out of
	the Closet"
Message-ID: <8CBBE8C28F11880-15F8-1159@WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Friends, 

See my blog post on Arnold's latest moves. 



California Greening,  
Schwarzenegger - Bush Republican Comes "Out of the Closet"





The Daily Kos,  
Schwarzenegger - "Out of the Closet" Bush Rethug


by Alex Walker





Latest news from the Great California Banana Republic: Our Dear Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has "come out of the closet" as a full-bloodied Bush Republican declaring he will veto the Democrats' budget plan if it includes $1.9 billion in new taxes on oil and tobacco, and fees on motorists to fund state parks.

"None of that will fly with me... It will be irresponsible after the largest tax increase in California's history just four months ago... I will without any doubt veto it."

Now, will the So-Called-Liberal-Media finally, stop calling this guy a "moderate" Republican? 

. . .


Read More and Comment at: 

Daily Kos: 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/18/744207/-SchwarzeneggerOut-of-the-Closet-Bush-Rethug

California Greening: 

http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2009/06/schwarzenegger-bush-republican-comes.html
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 19 11:31:23 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:31:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Crea TV open house
Message-ID: <4A3BD97B.8040409@sbcglobal.net>

If you would like to invite a friend down to CreaTV San Jose to "kick the
tires" and play with the gear, we?re having an Open House Night on
THURSDAY, JUNE 25 from 5-7:30pm. All staff will be on hand and available
to demo gear and ask questions.

Donna Wallach wrote: Greetings all,

I thought you that some of you might be interested to find out more info 
about
the San Jose community television channel, CreaTV San Jose. I don't know
where you live, you either need to live in San Jose or be active with a 
non-profit
organization that is located in San Jose to be able to have a show on 
CreaTV.

This open house is an opportunity for you to come to the studio and 
check it
and ask questions. There are still many time slots open for more 
programs and
you can produce shows on almost whatever you want.

There are courses to take at the studio, it does cost money. Also, if 
you have money,
you can make your show at the studio or you can make your show outside, 
much cheaper.

Donna [Walach]

Begin forwarded message:

> *From: *"Suzanne St. John-Crane" <newsletter at creatvsj.org 
> <mailto:newsletter at creatvsj.org>>
> *Date: *June 18, 2009 4:27:55 PM PDT
> *To: *"Members & Supporters" <newsletter at creatvsj.org 
> <mailto:newsletter at creatvsj.org>>
> *Subject: **CreaTV Open House Party - June 25!*
> *Reply-To: *<newsletter at creatvsj.org <mailto:newsletter at creatvsj.org>>
>
> Greetings, CreaTV Members & Supporters -
>
> If you would like to invite a friend down to CreaTV San Jose to "kick the
> tires" and play with the gear, we?re having an Open House Night on
> THURSDAY, JUNE 25 from 5-7:30pm. All staff will be on hand and available
> to demo gear and ask questions.
>
> See you at the Studio,

The CreaTV San Jose Team

P.S. July classes are posted online! Check ?em out at
http://www.creatvsj.org/Inner.aspx?page=13



From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Jun 19 16:27:15 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:27:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [usgp-dx] Big opportunity for Greens!
	Act now!]
Message-ID: <4A3C1ED3.4080604@charter.net>

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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Jun 19 16:58:17 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:58:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] CreaTV open house
In-Reply-To: <4A3BD97B.8040409@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A3BD97B.8040409@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <322EE386-4B28-427A-9670-6B6199A76F49@cagreens.org>

I have this on my CPU calendar, so I'm very likely to go.
I'm a San Jose resident, so I am eligible for resident (lower) fees  
and could sponsor a group if any Greens want to do a monthly show.
Andrea

On Jun 19, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Jim Doyle wrote:

> If you would like to invite a friend down to CreaTV San Jose to  
> "kick the
> tires" and play with the gear, we?re having an Open House Night on
> THURSDAY, JUNE 25 from 5-7:30pm. All staff will be on hand and  
> available
> to demo gear and ask questions.
>
> Donna Wallach wrote: Greetings all,
>
> I thought you that some of you might be interested to find out more  
> info
> about
> the San Jose community television channel, CreaTV San Jose. I don't  
> know
> where you live, you either need to live in San Jose or be active  
> with a
> non-profit
> organization that is located in San Jose to be able to have a show on
> CreaTV.
>
> This open house is an opportunity for you to come to the studio and
> check it
> and ask questions. There are still many time slots open for more
> programs and
> you can produce shows on almost whatever you want.
>
> There are courses to take at the studio, it does cost money. Also, if
> you have money,
> you can make your show at the studio or you can make your show  
> outside,
> much cheaper.
>
> Donna [Walach]
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From: *"Suzanne St. John-Crane" <newsletter at creatvsj.org
>> <mailto:newsletter at creatvsj.org>>
>> *Date: *June 18, 2009 4:27:55 PM PDT
>> *To: *"Members & Supporters" <newsletter at creatvsj.org
>> <mailto:newsletter at creatvsj.org>>
>> *Subject: **CreaTV Open House Party - June 25!*
>> *Reply-To: *<newsletter at creatvsj.org  
>> <mailto:newsletter at creatvsj.org>>
>>
>> Greetings, CreaTV Members & Supporters -
>>
>> If you would like to invite a friend down to CreaTV San Jose to  
>> "kick the
>> tires" and play with the gear, we?re having an Open House Night on
>> THURSDAY, JUNE 25 from 5-7:30pm. All staff will be on hand and  
>> available
>> to demo gear and ask questions.
>>
>> See you at the Studio,
>
> The CreaTV San Jose Team
>
> P.S. July classes are posted online! Check ?em out at
> http://www.creatvsj.org/Inner.aspx?page=13
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss



From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Jun 19 17:00:51 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:00:51 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Help! Volunteers needed for Junteenth
	GPSCC table.
In-Reply-To: <4A3ABC73.3070508@aceweb.com>
References: <296066.92349.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<4A3ABC73.3070508@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <41030720-CD1E-400D-A918-94456FAABBCD@cagreens.org>


On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Tian Harter wrote:

> This is what I have so far:
>
>>> Saturday setup: Andrea and Warner (The festival
>>> officially starts at noon, but we need to be
>>> there a bit before that to get a good spot.)
>>>
>>> Saturday noon-2PM: Andrea and Drew  ?  WON'T WARNER BE THERE TOO?
>>>
>>> Saturday 2PM-4PM: Drew and Fred(tentative)
>>>
>>> Saturday 4PM-6PM: Tian and ???????
> Note: I would love to just show up on Sunday. I'll do this
> if I can't get a replacement for this shift.
>>>
>>> Sunday:
>>>
>>> Sunday noon to 2 PM: Valerie and Jodi
>>>
>>> Sunday 2 PM to 4 PM: Drew and ??????
>>>
>>> Sunday 4 PM to 6 PM: Drew and Tian
>>>
>>> Sunday teardown: Cameron (with car) and Tian
>
> If you have the time, please volunteer to be the name instead
> of the "??????"
> -- 
> Tian
> http://tian.greens.org
> Latest change: Added pictures and such from SubZERO in San Jose.
> Lately I've been discovering facebook. So many connections to make!
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From eameece at sfo.com  Sat Jun 20 11:56:44 2009
From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:56:44 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Summer Solstice event today
Message-ID: <EEC77AECCC2943A5937260BB4260B684@eameecePC>

SUMMER SOLSTICE CELEBRATION

Sat., June 20, 7pm-10pm

Divine Science Community Center

Come celebrate the beginning of summer. Hear the musical prophetic visions of Robert Perala and his song "Whatever Happened to the American Dream." Join in the sacred medicine wheel ceremony, and open your chakras with Bach (presented by Eric Mystic). Join in a group "snake dance" with Native American shaman Crowman. Hear Singing Crystal Bowls with Ed Simon. Participate in toning and drumming, with blessings and prayers. Bring your instruments! Free-will donations requested.

At Divine Science Community Center. 

1540 Hicks Ave, San Jose, CA 95125

>From 17, take Hamilton Ave.

Go east 2 miles; left on Hicks for 3 blocks. 

For more info contact:

Eric Meece (408)448-6726 

eameece at california.com

Rev. Christine (408)293-3838 

divinescience at comcast.net
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From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 21 12:04:34 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:04:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Honda & Lofgren Voted Against War Funding!
Message-ID: <409853.59044.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/43479

32 Democratic Congress members, in many cases, stood up to threats,
promises, and abuse from the White House and Nancy Pelosi. President
Obama and several cabinet secretaries, the National Security Advisor,
and of course the White House Chief of staff lobbied hard, including
threatening to cut off all future electoral support. These members
resisted and placed the interests of their constituents and of the
people of America, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq, above the interests
of the Democratic Party.

So if you live in Honda's or Lofgren's district, please call them to show your support! They need to hear our praises as much as our criticisms if we are to be taken seriously.

-Edward

PS. The entire roll call vote can be found at http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll348.xml



      
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 21 12:33:38 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:33:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Honda & Lofgren Voted Against War Funding!
In-Reply-To: <409853.59044.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <409853.59044.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY140-W826697570E6E0FB0227CE9E380@phx.gbl>



   Other locals (besides Honda and Lofgren) deemed praiseworthy in David Swanson's article:   






   Farr, Barbara Lee, Speier, Woolsey, Stark.
   About Anna Eshoo the best can be said is that by voting for the war funding consistentlyshe stayed out of Swanson's vote-switchers' Hall of Shame. 
   


Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:04:34 -0700
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Honda & Lofgren Voted Against War Funding!

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/43479

32 Democratic Congress members, in many cases, stood up to threats,
promises, and abuse from the White House and Nancy Pelosi. President
Obama and several cabinet secretaries, the National Security Advisor,
and of course the White House Chief of staff lobbied hard, including
threatening to cut off all future electoral support. These members
resisted and placed the interests of their constituents and of the
people of America, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq, above the interests
of the Democratic Party.

So if you live in Honda's or Lofgren's district, please call them to show your support! They need to hear our praises as much as our criticisms if we are to be taken seriously.

-Edward

PS. The entire roll call vote can be found at http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll348.xml


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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Jun 22 00:16:48 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:16:48 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bike Party in San Jose last Friday!
Message-ID: <4A3F2FE0.9090708@aceweb.com>

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/BikeParty/June09/index.html
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added pictures and such from SubZERO in San Jose.
Lately I've been discovering facebook. So many connections to make!


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 22 17:35:08 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:35:08 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] speaker Wed 7-1
Message-ID: <4A40233C.4060802@sbcglobal.net>

Here is a preview of Akio Tanaka's presentation at the next
regular Wednesday meeting, July 1-st.

To all the Greens who care about KPFA,
 
Pacifica and the Green Party share the same core values.
The Green Party is one political party that does not take corporate 
money and Pacifica is one network that does not take corporate money.
The KPFA Local Station Board Elections is coming up in August, so you 
have the opportunity to elect candidates that will represent the 
interests of the Green listener-subscribers.
 
Nomination period for candidates (including self nominations) ends on 
July 15.
The balloting  is from August 29 to October 14.
 
To vote, you must be a member between July 16, 2008 and July 15, 2009, 
so subscribe by July 15. (Do it by June 30 if you can.)
You can become a member by subscribing starting at $25 minimum, so 
encourage your family and friends also to become subscribers and vote!
1. Just go to www.kpfa.org <http://www.kpfa.org/>
2. At the menu at the top of the page, select:   SUPPORT US! > Pledge Online
3. Subscribe starting at $25 minimum.
4. Pay with your credit card and save or print the confirmation page.

Jim Doyle




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 23 21:25:30 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] next plenary
Message-ID: <4A41AABA.1040902@sbcglobal.net>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE
This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more 
information, or questions
related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply.  Follow 
the contact directions
stated in the email.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The next General Assembly of the GPCA will be October 10 - 11 in
Cotati, Sonoma County. Cotati is on Hwy 101 about 50 miles north of
San Francisco and just south of Santa Rosa.

The agenda packet is planned for distribution in early September.

As more information becomes available it will be posted on the
plenary web site at http://cagreens.org/plenary/.

This GA will include elections for:
+ the GPCA's Delegation to the Green Party of the United States,
   and;
+ the Coordinating Committee at-large seats.

Details on how to apply will be sent in another message.

Draft minutes of the May GA in Venice are now available for review:
          http://cagreens.org/plenary/archives/




From alexcathy at aol.com  Wed Jun 24 08:46:26 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:46:26 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 'Pro-Palin' at N.O.W. or 'Identity Politics' Run
	Wild?
Message-ID: <8CBC2FA1111A95C-12AC-2572@webmail-dg05.sysops.aol.com>


My friend, Aimee Allison posted a link about an uproar at the National Organization of Women (N.O.W.).

A series of comments led to a debate between Rafael Ontiveros and me which I would like to share.? I've opened a Discussion Topic at the California Green Party group: 



'Pro-Palin'
at N.O.W. or 'Identity Politics' Run Wild?


I know my views about "Identity Politics" are controversial among progressives.? I sincerely believe it is way past time for serious progressives to
rethink certain assumptions made by "the Left" ever since the late
1960s that, frankly, haven't worked very well for the causes we all say
we believe in. 

I am an African-American myself. I
live in One-Party Democratic inner-city Los Angeles, and frankly, I
left the Democratic Party to get away from silly games about "race"and "identity," typically
played by those that the Democratic Party Machines have deliberately
marginalized (and even though the Democrats take our votes completely
for granted in every election). 


Check this out on Facebook: 

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=8071416222&topic=9702 
  
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From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 11:57:54 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:57:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Honda, Single-Payer's Fairweather Friend
Message-ID: <547284.8127.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Representative Mike Honda and Representative Raul Grualva co-wrote an article for Politico, in which they lay out most of the flaws of the current, private health insurance scheme we got going. In a surprise twist halfway through the article, they write, "The two of us are supporters of the single-payer approach. However, we
acknowledge the current political realities of health care reform. We
praise Obama and the congressional leadership for their commitment to
reduce health care costs for families, businesses and government ? and
a public option would do just that."

As one of the co-sponsors of HR 676 both in the previous and current Congresses, we need to let Honda know that he and the other 80+ Congresspersons who have co-sponsored the bill that single-payer can become a political reality. They just need to stand firm against Pelosi and the White House.

The whole article may be found at http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24103.html

-Edward



      
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From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 11:42:11 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:42:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] HR 676 could prevent 60% of cancer deaths
Message-ID: <391821.75585.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

As you may have heard, Farrah Fawcett has died this morning from cancer. However, what you may not know is that 3 out of 5 cancer deaths could be prevented with the proper access to screening and preventive care.

Single-payer would make preventive care a higher priority, because it is not concerned about short-term profits like our current health insurance companies.

I think we need to take every opportunity we get to encourage our legislators to actively support HR 676 and S.703.

The following is an Action Item from the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network: https://secure3.convio.net/acscan/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=4493

The ACS wants legislation that would:
stop insurers from using pre-existing conditions, like cancer, as a reason to deny or limit coverageensure that people with a chronic or catastrophic disease, like cancer, are not financially ruined by the cost of careplace reasonable limitations on premiums and other patient out-of pocket costsabolish annual and lifetime caps on dollars spent or access to servicesplace much greater emphasis on prevention
-Edward



      
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 26 10:11:06 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:11:06 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Torture is a Moral Issue Panel and Conference
	Fri/Sat in Palo Alto
Message-ID: <BAY140-W22694CA96B5A45194DDF49E350@phx.gbl>



Friday night in Palo Alto, Ray McGovern (27-year CIA analyst) and
Terrence Karney, former Army Interrogator will speak--and others.

Saturday's line up includes Janet Cooper Alexander - Stanford Law 
School Professor;   Banafsheh Akhalghi - Amnesty International --
and others.

Don't miss it.

http://www.councilofchurches-scc.org/article.php?story=torturepanel
Sponsored by the Council of Churches of Santa Clara County, the  National Religious Campaign Against Torture,  No2Torture, the Bay Area Religious Campaign Against Torture,  Peninsula Peace and Justice Center,  Network for Spiritual Progressives,  California Council of Churches, Calvary Presbyterian Church in San Francisco, First Congregational United Church of Christ in Palo Alto and  MicahsCall.org.

Cosponsors: Center for Survivors of Torture of Asian Americans for Community Involvement, Amnesty International Western Region, Multifaith Voices for Peace & Justice, American Muslim Voice, San Jose Peace and Justice Center, Declaration of Peace-San Mateo County, Los Altos Voices for Peace, Action Council Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto, Pace e Bene, St. Thomas Aquinas Human Concerns Committee, Catholic Community at Stanford, Pax Christi at Stanford, Center for Spiritual Enlightenment, Code Pink & Global Exchange.
 







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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Jun 26 16:39:07 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:39:07 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] STOP TORTURE NOW press conferance in San Jose
Message-ID: <4A455C1B.9090306@aceweb.com>

Jeppesen is still in San Jose, and they are still a CIA contractor,
according to what I heard at this press conference:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/Jeppeson/26June09.html

This was the kickoff event for a conference tomorrow in Palo Alto
titled "TORTURE IS A MORAL ISSUE" organized by the Santa Clara County
council of churches. Find out more about that at:

http://www.councilofchurches-scc.org/index.php?topic=notorture

It starts with a pannel discussion this evening if you're interested.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added pictures and such from San Jose bike party!
Lately I've been discovering facebook. So many connections to make!


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 29 12:14:21 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:14:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda topics
Message-ID: <4A49128D.2000809@sbcglobal.net>

Apart from the usual formaliites I wish to have
fundraising
speaker re KPFA
yard sale
picnic
Labor Day
placed on the agenda.

Thanks,
Jim Doyle



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Jun 29 12:24:52 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:24:52 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda topics
In-Reply-To: <4A49128D.2000809@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4A49128D.2000809@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4A491504.9050807@aceweb.com>

Who is doing the agenda?

Jim Doyle wrote:
> Apart from the usual formaliites I wish to have
> fundraising
> speaker re KPFA
> yard sale
> picnic
> Labor Day
> placed on the agenda.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim Doyle
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added press conference about Jeppesen pictures.
Lately I've been discovering facebook. So many connections to make!


From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Jun 29 22:16:43 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:16:43 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My last column... for a while... need a break.
Message-ID: <4A499FBB.1090807@charter.net>

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Mon Jun 29 23:26:46 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (Fred Duperrault)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:26:46 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  My last column... for a while... need a break.
Message-ID: <4A49B026.6030504@freeshell.org>

Thanks, Wes, for questioning "growth,"  the ambiguous theory of the 
capitalism system.  My perception is that one's economic growth beyond
a certain accumulation of capital is another's diminution, in a 
cannibalistic system.

Fred D.


http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/257297-what-is-growth-good-for

What is 'growth' good for
7:17 PM
 By Wes Rolley <mailto:editor at morganhilltimes.com>

The word "growth" begins to take on its positive connotation from our 
very early days. My mother used to stand me against the closet door and 
measure my growth with a ruler and a pencil. As each new line moved ever 
upward, it was all goodness ? as in "Oh my goodness, how you have grown."

Eventually, it became "What are you going to do with yourself when you 
grow up?" Still the implication was that eventually I would do something 
positive, would arrive at a time and place where it all fit and things 
were all right with the world.

Unfortunately I stopped growing before I could challenge our 6-foot, 
7-inch center on the Flagstaff High School basketball team. One career 
choice eliminated due to a lack of growth.

When I eventually got into the business world, it was still all about 
growth. How were we to grow the business? We measured our progress as 
growth in earnings per share, in the stock price and our own success in 
the growth of our bank accounts or its reflection in conspicuous 
consumption.

The idea that growth is good is even reinforced by our architecture that 
measures achievement in terms, not of usability or aesthetic appeal, but 
simply in of how many feet does it reach into the sky. So, skylines 
grow, ever larger but somehow less romantic unless you have been reading 
Ayn Rand.

Even our biggest crooks, like Bernie Madoff, create Ponzi schemes that 
seem to grow their investor's wealth while only enriching the schemer. 
It might be understandable if it had only been Madoff, but his is only 
one in a long string of acts of greed.

It is almost axiomatic that a politician must bow before the gods of 
growth. Republicans will tell you that we have to reduce taxes so the 
economy can grow. The Obama administration tells you that they will 
stimulate the economy so that the economy can grow.

According to Bloomberg News Service, Obama told them that "If we are 
growing at a robust rate, then we can pay for the government that we 
need without having to raise taxes."

This is exactly the situation that we have in California where both our 
state and local governments rely on the fees related to growth and the 
taxation that they will bring in the future to pay for the services that 
we currently demand of our government.

The writer Edward Abbey reminded us that "Growth for the sake of growth 
is the ideology of a cancer." Abbey was accused of being many things: a 
desert anarchist, an environmentalist, a gadfly, arrogant, 
self-centered, bigoted, a national treasure. What he did do was to 
chronicle the overwhelming urge we have to dominate the untamed American 
West and to use whatever is there to fuel our need to grow.

It should not be the automatic goal of our government to grow the 
economy nor should it be the goal of government to continue growing. 
Just as a cancer will eventually take all of our energy to sustain its 
insatiable expansion, so growing government will eventually take all of 
our monetary resources and growing the economy will eventually take all 
of our natural resources. The end result of all of this will be collapse 
and possibly the death of our civilization.

This continual chasing the chimera of growth is an economic Ponzi scheme 
and we are reaping the consequences. Coupled with a legislature that 
cannot compromise, the collapse was inevitable.

There are alternative visions of the future that need to be considered. 
They are based not on growth, but rather the idea of sustainability. We 
need to be planning not for today, or tomorrow, but to start asking the 
questions of what type of world we are going to leave for our grandchildren.

One part of that effort comes from the Center for a Sustainable Economy.

For example, they seek not to figure out how much money can be made by 
clear cutting our redwoods, but rather provides the framework for 
analyzing the net public benefit of forest restoration.

California's current Legislature is locked in battle between two 
un-bending political policies, Republicans who take vows to never, ever 
allow a new tax and Democrats who insist that they need to pay for 
providing a social safety net for the public. Both work for and rely on 
a continued pattern of growth as if that were progress.

It is time that we seek solutions elsewhere. For the economy, we need to 
make sustainability our goal, rather than growth. We need not to be 
doing more, but to focus our energies on doing better. For politics, 
only the Green Party makes sustainability a part of their platform. It 
is time to think of our future, one where, as Thomas Friedman wrote, 
"Green is the new Red, White and Blue."

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024

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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Jun 30 12:53:53 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:53:53 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] News from Gaza about Cynthia McKinney and
	others...
Message-ID: <4A4A6D51.1010902@aceweb.com>

A brief excerpt:

 > Israeli forces have boarded a ship trying to carry aid and
 > pro-Palestinian activists to the Gaza Strip in defiance of Israel's
 > blockade of the territory.
 >
 > The 20 passengers include former US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney
 > and Nobel Prize winner Mairead Maguire.

To read the whole article please visit:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8127145.stm
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added press conference about Jeppesen pictures.
Lately I've been discovering facebook. So many connections to make!


From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Jun 30 14:30:06 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:30:06 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My last column... for a while... need a break.
In-Reply-To: <4A49AED4.3000805@aceweb.com>
References: <4A499FBB.1090807@charter.net> <4A49AED4.3000805@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4A4A83DE.8010906@charter.net>

Tian Harter wrote:
> I'm going to miss reading your columns...
>
> Thanks for so many of them! I like how this one ends.
>
> Tian
>
Thanks for the positive feedback, Tian,   And from  you too, Fred.

I am just not getting any pots thrown this summer and have to cut back 
to make that happen.

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024


From JamBoi at Greens.org  Tue Jun 30 17:55:08 2009
From: JamBoi at Greens.org (Drew Johnson)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:55:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GP: Obama must demand Israel release McKinney and
 20 human rights activists
Message-ID: <54370.69.181.146.113.1246409708.squirrel@greens.org>

Green Party: President Obama and the US State Dept. must demand release of
Cynthia McKinney and 20 other human rights activists on Free Gaza relief
boat seized by Israeli gunboats

GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES
http://www.gp.org

For Immediate Release:
Tuesday, June 30, 2009

Contacts:
Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, cell 202-904-7614,
mclarty at greens.org
Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, starlene at gp.org


The Free Gaza's 'Spirit of Humanity' was delivering medical and other
supplies following Obama's call for relief to wartorn Gaza; the boat was
in international waters


WASHINGTON, DC -- Green Party leaders are calling on the White House and
US State Department to intervene and demand the immediate release of 21
human rights activists, including former US Rep. Cynthia McKinney and
Nobel laureate Mairead Maguire, who were taken prisoner by the Israeli
navy after gunboats surrounded and seized the Free Gaza Movement relief
boat 'Spirit of Humanity' on Monday.

"This is an outrageous violation of international law against us. Our boat
was not in Israeli waters, and we were on a human rights mission to the
Gaza Strip," said Cynthia McKinney, the Green Party's 2008 candidate for
President of the United States. "President Obama just told Israel to let
in humanitarian and reconstruction supplies, and that's exactly what we
tried to do. We're asking the international community to demand our
release so we can resume our journey."

Read Cynthia McKinney's latest statement here:
http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/hope-fleet-news/970-call-off-your-attack-dogs-cynthia-mckinney

Ms. McKinney had earlier sent appeals to President Obama and the State
Department for assurances of protection for the relief mission. The Spirit
of Humanity was sailing in international waters when it was seized. Greens
stressed that the relief boat represents no threat to Israel and must be
allowed to continue its voyage to Gaza.

For more information and updates, see the Free Gaza Movement web site
(http://www.freegaza.org), including the latest release on the seizure of
the relief boat
(http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/hope-fleet-news/976-israel-attacks-justice-boat-kidnaps-human-rights-workers-confiscates-medicine-toys-and-olive-trees).

For communications and updates from Cynthia McKinney, visit her Green
Party page (http://www.gp.org/cynthia/index.php) and blog
(http://dignity.ning.com).

The Spirit of Humanity was carrying medical supplies, cement, olive trees,
and children's toys to Gaza after the Israeli invasion in December and
January damaged or destroyed 50,000 homes, 800 industrial properties and
200 schools damaged or destroyed, 39 mosques, and two churches. The
supplies were confiscated by the Israeli navy.

The Green Party of the United States condemned the invasion and massacre
of Palestinians and has endorsed the call for boycott, divestment, and
sanctions against Israel until the Israeli government guarantees full
human rights, including political rights and democracy, for all
Palestinians and non-Jewish Israelis.


MORE INFORMATION

Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org
202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN
Fax 202-319-7193

Green candidate database for 2008 and other campaign information:
http://www.gp.org/elections.shtml
Green Party News Center http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml
Green Party Speakers Bureau http://www.gp.org/speakers
Green Party ballot access page http://www.gp.org/2008-elections
International Committee of the Green Party: http://www.gp.org/committees/intl

Green Party releases:
"Breaking news: Cynthia McKinney aboard detained Free Gaza Movement relief
boat," June 25, 2009 http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=228
"Greens join Global Day of Action for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions on
March 30 to end the Israeli occupation," March 26, 2009
http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=192
"Green Party: Israel-Palestine truce must include end of Israeli
occupation and observance of international law or violence is likely to
resume," January 19, 2009 http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=169

2009 Annual National Meeting of the Green Party, Durham, NC, July 23-26
http://www.gp.org/2009-ANM
North Carolina page http://ncgreenparty.org/2009-ANM.html
Media credentialing page http://www.gp.org/forms/media

Green Pages, Vol. 13, No. 1
The official publication of record of the Green Party of the United States
http://gp.org/greenpages-blog




From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue Jun 30 19:53:45 2009
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:53:45 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda topics
Message-ID: <c48.3a72e0ef.377c29b9@aol.com>

Ggiven that KKUP is broadcasting that it has lost its studio  lease, my 
question will be what is KPFA doing to help them.
 
I volunteered to research November 2009 elections.  I did  that.
People who want to check themselves can go to _www.sccvote.org_ 
(http://www.sccvote.org) 
 
Yes, what is the status of plans for Tapestry Festival and  other summer 
tabling?  I have a bunch of tabling stuff left at my house  after the 
Juneteenth Festival tabling.  Also have the button machine and  metal supplies (not 
button content sheets).
 
Warner
 
**************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the 
grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue Jun 30 19:58:10 2009
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:58:10 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: San Jose/Santa Clara 7/5 Rally for Universal
	Single-Payer Health Care!
Message-ID: <c4e.5200744a.377c2ac2@aol.com>

 
>From Sandra Decker in the East Bay...  Needs confirmation from someone  
involved with one of the listed sponsors.  Somehow no one is connecting the  
GPSCC with the local single payer coalition?  Warner 

 
In a message dated 6/25/2009 10:42:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,  
revdecker at msn.com writes:

 

 Peaceful Street Rally
 
 



Sunday, July 5 

12  Noon - 3 PM  
Stevens Creek Blvd. & Winchester  Blvd.
Santa Clara/San Jos?

Bring signs in support of Single-Payer!  

No need to raise taxes, gut the  wasteful Pentagon budget!
Universal Single-Payer Health Care for  all!  

Spread the word!  
Participating Organizations: Raging Grannies  Alliance, One Voice!, South 
Bay Mobilization, San Jos? Peace and Justice  Center, Peninsula Peace and 
Justice Center, Californians For Justice,  Santa Clara County Single Payer 
Healthcare Coalition   
If anti Single-Payer/anti-Union Tea Party protesters show  up, stay on 
message:
Universal Single-Payer Health Care for  all!  








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From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Tue Jun 30 22:11:26 2009
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:11:26 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Thanks, Wes, for questioning "growth,"
Message-ID: <000001c9fa0a$62926cb0$6e01a8c0@INTERBIKE06>

Reading David Korten's new book "Agenda for a New Economy - from Phantom
Wealth to Real Wealth, why Wall Street can't be fixed and how to replace
it" (a book I highly recommend) I see these quotes:

"Because of how our financial system is designed, the economy has to
grow or collapse.  ...  Because the bookkeeping entry a bank makes when
it issues a loan creates only the principal, the economy must grow fast
enough to generate sufficient demand for loans in order to create the
money required to make the interest payments.  Otherwise debts go into
default and the financial system and the economy collapse."

"For millennia, our adolescent excesses were little more than an
irritant to our Earth Mother, and we got away with behaving as if her
patience and abundance were limitless.  That time has passed.  We can no
longer live by the rules of an open frontier.  We must adapt our ways of
being and relating to spaceship rules."

Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters
408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN!
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:26:46 -0700
From: Fred Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org>
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  My last column... for a while... need a
	break.
To: Green Discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <4A49B026.6030504 at freeshell.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Thanks, Wes, for questioning "growth,"  the ambiguous theory of the 
capitalism system.  My perception is that one's economic growth beyond
a certain accumulation of capital is another's diminution, in a 
cannibalistic system.

Fred D.


http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/257297-what-is-growth-good-for