There was much more to it than I could put on a web page, but here is what I got: http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/GreenFestival/2009/index.html -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On my radio the guy that invented the smiley face [:-)] said "if it cost people a nickel to use it they'd stop, so that's my gift to the world."