From wrolley at charter.net  Thu Oct  1 08:17:23 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:17:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Support a strong climate bill]
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From eameece at sfo.com  Thu Oct  1 08:55:36 2009
From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:55:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] US is "climate illiterate"
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I think it's important that we do this. The Greens need a lobbying group 
that can speak for the local Party, on issues agreed on by consensus at the 
monthly meetings.

Eric the Green

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From: "Wes Rolley" <wrolley at charter.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:13 PM
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Andrea Dorey wrote:
> Well, excuse me, but we have the Obama administration and I'm not
> seeing much movement now!!
> What's the plan here?  What can we do?
> We have 350 coming up fast where we could do something outrageous?SO
> WHAT DO WE DO??????
> Ideas, ideas, ideas!!!
> Andrea
>
Interesting Euro-centric view of the US.  I might say that the problem
is not that we are climate illiterate, but rather science illiterate.
Thus Mooney and Kirschenbaum's book, Unscientific America.

There are a lot of things that can be done.  But, I think that we need
to get to know our local representative a lot better than we do, or for
them to get to know us:

Honda, McNerney, Eshoo, Lofgren, Stark all have to know that there is a
constituency that cares deeply about this and who are willing to reflect
this at the ballot box.  At the same time, we need to hammer Boxer's
office all we can.

The Nuclear Information and Referral Service is scheduling October 15 as
a "call in day."  I will post more about that on California Greening as
it gets nearer.



-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then 
you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Oct  2 00:03:44 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:03:44 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Making A Killing
Message-ID: <4AC5A5D0.7080103@aceweb.com>

At the Mountain View Art & Wine Festival I always try to spend an hour 
or two in the free speech zone, partly to find out what other people 
care enough about to invest their time there. This year there were some
people there with an issue I'd never seen formally presented before.
They went by the name "Citizens Commission on Human Rights", and were
quietly handing out DVD's titled Making A Killing. I asked what it was
about, and the woman said something about how way too many drugs are
being prescribed way too frequently. She gave me the DVD and said "show
it to your friends if you like it."

The movie begins by explaining that as recently as 1967, psychiatry 
wasn't really a respected medical profession. That changed when they 
developed some formal techniques for diagnosing common human conditions
as diseases. Things like mood swings and post partum depression. Then
the pharmaceutical industry figured out that they could sell everybody
who'd been diagnosed with one or more of these conditions a steady
stream of drugs to treat it/them. Then in the '90s the pharmaceutical
industry got approval to advertise directly to the public, and since
then usage has really mushroomed.

Partly this is because almost anything can be diagnosed as a mental 
disorder. The film makers got a random sampling of people to take an
online quiz, and half of them turned out to have symptoms requiring
further analysis. It is also because drug companies reward psychiatrists
for prescribing lots of drugs. Things like free tickets to seminars on
nice tropical islands for themselves and a guest, all expenses paid.

This is a big industry. Every year $330 Billion is spend on drugs like
Risperdal, Effexor, Seroquel, and Lexapro each have more than $7 Million
spent on them in an average day. Since the drug companies started direct
to consumer advertising (those adds that ask if you are depressed that
suggest you talk to your doctor and "ask about lavitra" or whatever) in
the 1990s the sales have multiplied dramatically. Drug companies now 
spend $2.9 Billion on direct advertising, a sizable percentage of their
estimated $5.9 annual marketing budgets. It even has a revolving door
that connects regulators, drug companies, and the media that cover them.

The side effects of these drugs can hurt or kill people. The film 
estimates more people die every month as a result of drug side effects 
than were ever killed by the 9/11 attack in New York. They also said 
more people commit suicide while medicated than get killed in homicides.
There was a dramatic sequence where they played footage I'd seen on TV
from various mass murders and then listed the drugs the killers were on
at the time. They cut to a talking head that said "we didn't have this
kind of problem back before these drugs were widely prescribed."

The movie finished with a few suggestions about how to fight back. The
key is informed consent. Start by asking "How do you know I need this 
drug?", "What happens if I don't take this drug?", and "What other 
treatment options are available?" If you have side effects, be sure to
report them to MedWatch, a passive government data collection portal.

Back when I was a teenager, my Dad had good insurance. I found out about
this by not sleeping for a few days as a homeless teenager that didn't
know the rules and going off the deep end. I woke up in a psychiatric
hospital. At first they were just going to keep me for a couple of days,
but then they found out about the huge limits on my Dad's policy. I was
locked up for six months. I don't doubt at all the shocking story above.
I've lived through an experience that confirms a lot of the patterns in
it. I was surprised by how big the psychiatric-industrial complex has
grown since then (1977) though.

The other thought I had was that all that hand wringing about the rising
cost of our medical system is partly caused by this problem. Maybe we
can solve part of it by stopping drug advertising on TV. That'll keep 
easily led people from wanting a prescription. Why would they advertise
for drugs if it didn't work?

Anyhow, this is an eye opening movie. There are several shocking stories 
in it I didn't want to put in this email. You can find out more at:

http://www.cchrsiliconvalley.com

Or, if you just want my copy of the movie email me where to send it.
I'll be glad to give it to the first person that's interested.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest Change: Added Peak Oil report delivery show last Thursday in SF.


From fredd at freeshell.org  Fri Oct  2 11:59:22 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:59:22 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Regional meeting
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THANKS, Carlone, for the excellent  review/report.  It is a valuable 
service.

Fred
,
Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> *From:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
> *To:* Santa Clara - San Mateo Communications <sc-sm at lists.sonic.net>
> *Cc:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:46:56 PM
> *Subject:* Regional meeting
>
>                     Regional Meeting--Jade Palace--September 29, 2009
>  
> In attendance:
> Jim Stauffer--Regional Rep.
> Tian Harter--SCCC
> Warner Blomberg-GPUS delegate
> Don Davis--was on SM board
> Gloria Purcell
> Margaret Pey--Treasurer, SM
> Vi Minh
> Brian Good
> Andrea Dory 3 terms on SCCC
> Caroline Yacoub==SCCC
> Binky Bachelder--SM County Council Chairperson
> Susan--SM
> Cindy
> Dana St. George--SCCC
> Gerry Gras
>  
> Jim suggested we discuss three topics: 1) how are the counties doing? 
> 2) state of the stae party, 3) electing a new regional rep.  Margaret 
> also wanted to discuss the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in 
> December.
>  
> 1)What's going on in the counties?
> Binky said San Mateo has been inactive, but they're trying to pick up. 
> Sanda and others are busy with other things. They_ do_ have money. 
> They are going to look at what they did in the past, mailings for 
> example, and see how effective they were.
> Margaret said that Ray Toby talked to them as a campaign consultant. 
> He knows how to get lists of who voted and when. We could get him to 
> give a talk to both counties.
> Andrea said we should do this this winter.
> Warner said Ray thinks we think too small. We need candidate training.
>  
> Andrea said Santa Clara County is doing outreach. We are trying to get 
> emails rather than doing mailings. We are doing a lot of tabling. We 
> have organic seeds. Warner grew some, and the results were great. We 
> need to go to farmers' markets.
> Caroline suggested having Ray at our next Food 4 Thought in January.
> Tian thought there should be more than one speaker.
>  
> 2) State of the state party, Jim Stauffer
> Our voter registration peaked in 2003. All political parties are 
> losing registrations.
> We have to worry about losing our ballot status. If we keep dropping 
> 8-10% per year, we will be off in 3 years. The Green Party has been an 
> experiment in structure. The state party has a series of standing 
> committees who do the work. Only 2-3 committees are currently 
> functioning. There have been internal problems in the state party. We 
> have no center focus--no one basic issue. We need to sit down and 
> figure out what this focus should be. ((/editorial comment: does the 
> name "Green"  suggest anything?/))
> We should have on-line voting to take care of decision-making that is 
> now being done at the plenary. We need to get our counties organized 
> and energized in order to get the state going.The last thing to be 
> discussed at the upcoming plenary is restructuring. Jim thinks this 
> restructuring is a mess. We should not have more than  half the 
> delegates be elected at large. Gloria asked if restructuring will be 
> brought to a vote on Sunday afternoon. If so, she, and probably 
> others, will leave early, so there wouldn't be a quorum.
> Vi raised the issue of outreach for candidates.
> Warner said that in the state party there have been some small 
> successes in recruiting people to run for statewide offices. So far, 
> the only people he knows of who are running for statewide offices are 
> from southern California.Laura Wells said she would run for 
> Comptroller. The deadline for declaring is in February.
> Susan asked if other state parties were having the same problems as 
> California.
> Gloria said California is so big that it's more like national than 
> other states.
> Cindy (sorry, I didn't get her last name) is from Nebraska. She was in 
> on the start of the Greens there.She worked on Nader's campaign and on 
> two congressional campaigns.
> Brian asked if we could split into northern and southern California 
> parties.
> Warner said no.
> Vi said that before she joined the Green Party she was in the Peace 
> and Freedom party. She said we should make it easier to put Green 
> people on the ballot--not make it sound like such a big deal to 
> run--just get names on the ballot.
> Warner said we should have a candidates' schoool.
> Jim said we don't have a snowball's chance of winning in a partisan 
> election. We need to work on IRV.
> Tian said we need to get people to run for County Council.
> Vi said we should build alliances with other peace groups.
> Gloria said she couldn't get the Sierra Club to endorse her.
> Andrea said we are starting to get into a real working relationship 
> with the Single Payer people.
> Gloria said "Fair Vote" is doing a good job. We have a couple of Green 
> people on their board.
> Jim said people pushing for a constitutional convention onclude Steven 
> Hill and Steve Chessin., who are heavy hitters for IRV. We need to 
> push that in the constitutional convention.
> Andrea said we need to get the word out regarding proportional 
> representation--let people know our democracy is old, creaky, and 
> needs desperately needs fixing.
>  
> 3)Replacing the Regional Rep--Jim Stauffer
> Jim will vacate the office at the end of the year. During this time 
> when the Coordinating Committee is being restructured, it would not be 
> good for our seat to be vacant. The time commitment could be just a 
> few hours per month, but you are expected to do state work. There is a 
> liaison from the CC to each working committee. Jim will send the job 
> description out. We need a competent person.
>  
> Warner said several years ago both counties made a procedure for 
> choosing a rep.  Both counties need to agree and follow the procedure.
>  
> We should also have an alternate to serve when the rep is absent and 
> to help. Gerry and Dana did this together. They felt that the rep 
> needed to be at the general meetings of both counties and the state 
> meetings.
>  
> We need to get candidates. They need to go to both counties. In santa 
> Clara, the rep is selected at the general meeting. In San Mateo, they 
> do it at a county council meeting. They have to agree.
>  
> Warner will contact Jim Doyle to get this item on the agenda for the 
> October 7 meeting.
>  
> 4) Once again Margaret reminded us of the Copenhagen Climate Change 
> Conference. We should google it and find out things we can do.
>  
>  
>
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct  2 12:06:45 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:06:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Reminder Plenary Agenda Discussion This
 Saturday (Oct 3rd) in San Jose
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Fri Oct  2 12:36:58 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:36:58 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda
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Jim,   The Mountain View Voices for Peace will be participating in the 
national "End the Af-Pak War/Occupation" campaign with a 6:30 - 8:00 pm 
vigil-protest  at El Camino and Castro, on October 7.   That's why I''ll 
be late for the GPSCC Meeting.  Nevertheless, please save 15 or 20 
minutes for  an item I would like to bring up. 

Thanks.

Fred D.

Jim Doyle wrote:
> aIt is time to submit agenda items for the October 7-th meeting.
> Review the plenary agenda as preparation for a discussion of
> some of the plenary's topics.
>
> Please note.  We can save time at the meeting if announcements
> were posted to the discussion list ahead of time.
>
> Jim Doyle
>
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct  2 12:42:52 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:42:52 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Walking out to prevent a quorum
Message-ID: <4AC657BC.4080502@charter.net>

I consider walking out of a meeting to prevent a quorum to be the Green 
Party filibuster.  I hope that you all remember this if the Republicans 
filibuster the Kerry - Boxer climate change bill and Sen. Byrd - (Dem. 
WV) fails to vote for cloture to shut off debate.


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From fredd at freeshell.org  Fri Oct  2 13:18:32 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:18:32 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bill to Repeal Telecom Immunity
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W284B70C2CB036353CD99369ED50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W284B70C2CB036353CD99369ED50@phx.gbl>
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Thanks, Brian, for posting this item.

I think the GPSCCC should issue a news release reporting the Green 
Party's alarming concern (at the Oct 7 Meeting) with Obama's carrying 
out a number of Bush's Constitution damning policies.  In doing so, 
Dodd, Leahy, Feingold and Merkley should be condoned for their guts to 
take on the President by sponsoring the "Retroactive Immunity Repeal Act."

Fred

Brian Good wrote:
>
>   My Democrat friends completely understand when I tell them that I 
> lost hope in Obama when he voted for telecom immunity after promising 
> he would filibuster.
>
> http://dodd.senate.gov/?q=node/5238
>
>   Senators Dodd, Leahy, Feingold, and Merkley are sponsoring the 
> Retroactive Immunity Repeal Act.  
> ?We best defend America when we also defend its founding principles,? 
> said Dodd. ?We make our nation safer when we eliminate the false 
> choice between liberty and security....  Retroactive immunity for 
> warrantless wiretapping [violated] our citizen?s privacy and due 
> process right."
>  
> Said Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, ?Last year, I 
> opposed legislation that stripped Americans of their right to seek 
> accountability for the Bush administration?s [illegal warrantless 
> wiretaps].... Restoring Americans? access to the courts is the first 
> step toward ... accountability."
>  
> ?Immunity ... was unjustified and undermined the rule of law,? 
> Feingold said. ?Congress should not have short-circuited the courts? 
> constitutional role in assessing the legality of the program."
>  
> ?Telecommunications companies were ... violating the rights and 
> privacy of millions of Americans,? said Merkley. 
>
>   The bill seeks to reverse the mistake of the last Congress and 
> repeal the retroactive immunity provisions. The Senators say the 
> courts, and neither Congress nor the Administration, should determine 
> whether these corporations violated the law and rights of Americans 
> and whether or not they should be held accountable.
>  
>
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  2 14:35:05 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:35:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Noam Chomsky for Free, Sunday 10/4, Stanford,
	5:30 pm
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Rally for accountability and against war crimes at White Plaza.  Free Parking!

Speakers:  Chomsky, Joel Beinin, Paul George, Sandra Drake.


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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Oct  2 16:01:03 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 16:01:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?Fwd=3A_=27Capitalism=27_Opens_?=
 =?windows-1252?q?Today=97Some_in_Bay_Area?=
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I hope this "forward" goes through.  We ought to flood the theaters  
in the Bay Area to make sure it stays for a week or two.
I'm up for a group w/ discussion afterwards.
Andrea

Begin forwarded message:
> apitalism' Opens Today at a Theater Near You! ...an invitation from  
> Michael Moore
>
> Friday, October 2nd, 2009
>
> Friends,
>
> For two months, we've sat and watched the rabid right achieve the  
> unimaginable: Derail universal health care and send the Democrats  
> in Congress running for cover. Many have asked, "How did this  
> happen? How could a small minority of angry people control the  
> public agenda? Where is the majority's response? Why the silence?"
>
> I don't have the answers to all these questions. But I do know  
> this: I've had enough. As far as I'm concerned, Tea Bag Nation ends  
> today -- at noon to be precise. For that's when I set loose, on a  
> thousand screens across this great land, a movie I've made that's  
> so relentless, so dangerous, so damning in its humor, that it will  
> -- I can only hope -- do what no movie has done before: Take them  
> down, take them all down, once and for all.
>
> The days of the majority of Americans being ignored and played for  
> chumps are over as of right now. This weekend, consider your local  
> cinema the REAL town hall meetings! Come and spend two hours with  
> hundreds of other people who are fed up and in need of a bit of  
> inspiration -- and a good hearty laugh at the expense of all the  
> S.O.B.s who've wrecked our economy and laid ruin to our democracy.
>
> I'm personally inviting you to come see what many critics are  
> saying is my best film yet: "Capitalism: A Love Story." You will  
> not be disappointed. I will show you things and tell you things  
> about how the captains of corporate America have stolen our country  
> from us. No one on the nightly news is bringing these truths to  
> you. Beginning at noon today, I pull back the curtain and reveal  
> who's responsible for the calamity we're in. That's right -- I name  
> names and I explain why this economic system we have is nothing  
> more than legalized greed, and Wall Street is nothing more than a  
> crime syndicate in suits. You will be blown away by what you see,  
> but you will not leave the theater in a pit of despair. I'm  
> counting on your response to be one of exhilaration and  
> determination. I've watched this movie in sneak previews with  
> audiences from Pittsburgh to L.A. and I've never seen more hooting  
> and hollering during a documentary in my life. There are actually  
> standing O's during the movie! Weird. Cool. Down in front!
>
> Please see "Capitalism: A Love Story" this weekend. Take a bunch of  
> friends and make it an event. Last weekend in New York and L.A.  
> many shows sold out (making "Capitalism" the biggest per screen  
> average at the box office for 2009), so get your tickets early. And  
> if you get a chance, send me a photo of what opening night looks  
> like in your city and I'll post it on my website.
>
> C'mon, friends -- RISE UP! This is our moment. And it comes with  
> popcorn! Not bad!
>
> Thank you so very much for all your support and encouragement over  
> the years.
>
> Yours,
> Michael Moore
> MMFlint at aol.com
> MichaelMoore.com
>
> P.S. For a list of theaters and to find the nearest one to you  
> showing "Capitalism: A Love Story," click here.
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Fri Oct  2 18:16:42 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:16:42 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Walking out to prevent a quorum
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 Dear Green Friends, 

This is a tactic that has been used, for no good reason, by certain factions in the Los Angeles County Green Party for years.? It is extremely annoying, counter-productive, and self-destructive and one of the reasons why L.A. County became the laughingstock of GPCA.? 

My dear Santa Clara Green Friends, please don't go down that path. 

Alex Walker 


 


 

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I consider walking out of a meeting to prevent a quorum to be the Green 
Party filibuster.  I hope that you all remember this if the Republicans 
filibuster the Kerry - Boxer climate change bill and Sen. Byrd - (Dem. 
WV) fails to vote for cloture to shut off debate.


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  3 17:19:27 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:19:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items
Message-ID: <4AC7EA0F.8090405@sbcglobal.net>

This is a call for agenda items for this coming Wednesday's meeting.
Please let me know the topic, how long it will take, and what the
expected resulting action or to do list item will be.

Any announcements?  Send them to the discussion list.

Jim Doyle




From wrolley at charter.net  Sat Oct  3 21:10:43 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 21:10:43 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fundraising idea.
Message-ID: <4AC82043.7090704@charter.net>

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From andid at cagreens.org  Sun Oct  4 17:21:23 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:21:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?KPFA_Elections_End_Oct_15th_?=
 =?windows-1252?q?=97_Mail_ballot_by_Oct_13th!?=
Message-ID: <AA272248-D71C-4324-9401-CB5AA9DBCC1C@cagreens.org>

Ensure that your ballot arrives by Oct 15th or risk your votes not  
being counted!
Andrea
Long-time KPFA listener and volunteer


From andid at cagreens.org  Sun Oct  4 17:27:14 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:27:14 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fundraising idea.
In-Reply-To: <4AC82043.7090704@charter.net>
References: <4AC82043.7090704@charter.net>
Message-ID: <0044F49D-CD07-4895-93C1-4E28E9E40C4A@cagreens.org>

Great idea, Wes!
How long will the sale at Emma Prusch go on?  I usually visit the  
Park in winter when the scions are being offered for free.
I am also starting avocado trees with volunteer seeds this year?I  
have two started, one in June and another in August, doing very well  
at two feet and one foot, respectively.
I may also propagate my bearded iris and New Zealand grape  
hyacinths.  Do you think those would have a market?
Andrea

On Oct 3, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Wes Rolley wrote:

> The following is just a list of things that came to my attention  
> today.  Maybe one of them is a fundraising idea we can profitably use.
>
> Arts and Crafts go Green ? Climate Progress
>
> This is a bit of a different post for Climate Progress, normally  
> focused very tightly on climate change and governmental policy...  
> with a big emphasis on all things that you can cap and trade.   
> Well, maybe this on will cap landfills and provide trade for the  
> art world.  After all, I heard someone on KQED say that San Jose  
> had become so hip that people were coming down from San Francisco.
>
> I went the the Fall Harverst Festival Prusch Farm Park today.  I  
> was there to support the California Rare Fruit Growers and to  
> perhaps buy some fancy Kale from the Master Gardeners of Santa  
> Clara County. . I struck out on the kale, but in talking to another  
> of the fruit growers, I found that they were selling goji berry  
> plants. $3 ea. or 2 for $5.   Now that is about as organic and  
> healthful and beautiful as you can get.  It inspired me to do a  
> little google-ing tonight and it looks like they will do well here  
> as long as the roots get through the first winter without getting  
> too wet.. or dry.   If we made a little money on tomatoes, why not  
> goji berries.
>
>
> -- 
> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you  
> don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
>
> Wes Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  4 18:08:09 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:08:09 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] agenda items
Message-ID: <4AC946F9.2020100@sbcglobal.net>

One last time.
Please submit your agenda items for Wednesday's meeting.
And include the expected outcome and the time needed.

Jim Doyle



From alexcathy at aol.com  Mon Oct  5 09:03:29 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:03:29 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Wes Rolley: Where to Go? How About Fresno
Message-ID: <8CC13EC83D4EFD8-1D3C-1E04D@webmail-m038.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends, 



In his latest post on California Greening, Wes Rolley asks a very important question: 



Why don't California Greens come out stronger about the political chaos in the Central Valley?

Posted on California Greening, October 1, 2009.

Where to go? How about Fresno? 

by Wes Rolley
 


I have been told that it is a waste of time for Greens to try and
organize in the Central Valley, that we need to build on the areas
where we have the most electoral success, already have some recognized
politicians and are more likely to be be able to tap local money.


 
I want you to read the complete picture of Fresno in this Alternet published piece by Mark Ames.
It will give you a very different view of the Central Valley than you
get from Coastal megalopolis TV news. Ames manages to combine the
background of a workplace shooting and the appearance of Sean Hannity
and make sense of it? well as much sense as the two situations
allowed...



I would like to add links to stories in support of Wes. 



 
In Northern California the defection of Fresno State Assemblyman 
Juan Arambula 
from the Democratic caucus. This was reported in the Fresno Bee at the height of the state budget crisis -- none of the big shot "liberal" pundits in Los Angeles or San Francisco noticed it. 



 In Southern California staggering rates of foreclosures in
traditionally One-Party Republican San Bernardino and Riverside
Counties. A recent article in the Los Angel
es Times by 

Peter Y. Hong
noted that "In August, foreclosures accounted for 57% of sales in San
Bernardino County, though that figure was down from a peak of 69.3% in
April. Foreclosures constituted 50.7% of Riverside County sales in
August, down from 71.2% in January."



 
That's not all.  An article in the 

Temecula Valley News
reported that a county-commissioned study found "the Inland Empire?s
housing boom put the area 'in an unsustainable trajectory,' leading to
artificially high home prices that barely one-fifth of the region?s
residents could afford using conventional loan products... The collapse
in the housing market and in housing activity is one of the main
factors behind the sharp deterioration of the county?s economy." In
other words, because so much of Riverside County's overall economic
activity was based on the housing bubble that even the anemic
"recovery" is likely to leave this traditionally Republican territory
in deep doodoo for years. They even used the magic word "unsustainable"
to describe Riverside County's so-called conservative status quo. 


Meanwhile, part of Riverside County is represented in the State Senate by the Honorable 

Dennis Hollingsworth
whose principle claim to fame is his enthusiasm for Proposition 22 and
Proposition 8. Folks in Riverside might not have homes, jobs, or water
to drink, but they can sleep well under bridges unthreatened by gay
marriage! 

 Alas, our Los Angeles "liberals" and our Los Angeles
"libertarians" are too busy obsessing ov
er Barack Obama, foreign
affairs, and the "culture war" incited by demagogues like
Hollingsworth to recognize an historic opportunity to break the
Republican Party Machines.



 
READ MORE AND COMMENT ON WES ROLLEY'S POST AT:

http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2009/10/where-to-go-how-about-fresno.html? 












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From eameece at sfo.com  Thu Oct  1 08:51:54 2009
From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 08:51:54 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help me fight climate change
Message-ID: <B90F6A72390C4C2F8ADFF3AAC1580089@eameecePC>


I just asked President Obama and my senators to commit to a 40% reduction in emissions by 2020, and I think you should too. We can contain global warming and prevent future crisis, but only if we take decisive action while there's still time. Take action today at

http://bit.ly/40by20
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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Mon Oct  5 13:40:52 2009
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 2009 13:40:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Help me fight climate change
Message-ID: <20091005204052.62D436A943@truffula.sj.ca.us>


I rode my bike to work today.  Does that count?



From wrolley at charter.net  Mon Oct  5 14:07:28 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:07:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who get the Green Jobs?
Message-ID: <4ACA6010.8050505@charter.net>

I listened in to a Green 4 All Conference Call regarding the Kerry/Boxer 
Climate Change Bill.

While I learned of some good things in this bill, the call really boiled 
down to a discussion of who will get what after if passes:  Will 
supported projects be required to hire union employees?  Will there be 
set asides for women? etc.

I almost laughed when the head of the AFL/CIO business trades council 
talked about the great things that they were doing for the 
environment... when the Carpenter's Union supported every "build as many 
homes in the flood plain as you can candidate".. like Richard Pombo, to 
whom they gave substantial contributions in several of his last races.

There is a sense that the support or lack of it for Kerry/Boxer comes 
down to who will get which jobs, and who might lose.  It will be hard to 
get Democratic Senators from Coal Mining states to vote for any 
significant reduction in coal, coal use or subsidies to the industry.  
That would include:

Richard Durbin - IL
Evan Bayh - IN
Byron Dorgan - ND
Kent Conrad - ND
Arlen Specter - PA
Robert Casey - PA
Jay Rockefeller - WV
Robert Byrd - WV

The real question is whether or not the Coal Miners union has a lot of 
clout... I guess they do since the current President of the AFL/CIO came 
from that union.

Even though the idea behind Green 4 All is so basic, that working in the 
building sector is an absolute requirement to curtail energy use, the 
future still seems as clouded as Pittsburgh in the hey day of big steel.



-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  5 15:18:49 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:18:49 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KPFA elections
Message-ID: <4ACA70C9.8040200@sbcglobal.net>

Here is a message from the candidate who spoke to us
at our July or August meeting, Akio Tanaka:

Dear Jim,
The KPFA board elections ends on October 15.
The station management scheduled a fund drive between 9/15 to 10/9,
which preempted the election events and coverage, so it is very 
important to remind
people to vote and mail in their ballots.

I would appreciate it if you can forward the following message to people
in your sphere of influence.
Warm regards,
Aki
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Friends and Allies,

The balloting for the KPFA Local Station board will end on October 15.

Let your vote count. Please vote and mail in your ballots.

Currently the Concerned Listeners slate holds the majority on the KPFA 
Local Station Board.
I am concerned that their support for concentrated management power and 
their disrespect f
or the unpaid staff could turn KPFA into another mainstream radio 
station and marginalize its
unique listener community.

The Independents for Community Radio (ICR) want to put the community 
back in community radio;
they believe that programming decisions and other significant station 
policies need to be made in a
?fair, collaborative and respectful manner?.


I urge you to vote for the candidates endorsed by the 'Independents for 
Community Radio'. T
he candidates are; Akio Tanaka, Henry Norr, Andrea Prichett, Rahman 
Jamaal McCreadie,
Banafsheh Akhlaghi, Lara Kiswani, Adam Hudson, Evelyn Sanchez, Shara 
Esbenshade,
Sasha Futran, and Ann Hallet.

Thank you,

Akio Tanaka

Following two articles delineates the above issues in more detail:

?KPFA Voters, the Choice is yours? by Henry Norr

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/10/02/18624199.php

?Avoiding a Faustian Bargain at KPFA? by Akio Tanaka

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/10/01/18624062.php

[To find out more about the ICR candidates, please go to: 
http://www.indyradio2009.org/ ]
[To see a sample ballot, please go to: http://www.communityradio2009.com 
<http://www.communityradio2009.com/>




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  5 17:53:35 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:53:35 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] proposed agenda
Message-ID: <4ACA950F.9070408@sbcglobal.net>

  Tentative Agenda for Wednesday October 7-th 2009

Selection of Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher

*NEW* Selection of agenda preparer for next month?s meeting

Introductions and Announcements

Speaker from VTA Rider?s Group

Treasurer?s report

TABLING

Coordinators needed for
Thursday November 19-th DeAnza International Peace Bazaar
Saturday November 21-st Junior State
To Be Determined: Yard Sale

Sonoma County Plenary October 10-11^th
delegates and alternates
plenary agenda review group

Report on joint Santa Clara ? San Mateo meeting

Update on IRV in San Jose

Report on Coalition for a Downtown Hospital

Report from County Council meeting

Alternatives to the Death Penalty (SCCCADP)

Fundraising suggestion

Student Activists




From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Oct  5 22:42:32 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 22:42:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: FW: Robocops Come to Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <553103.40682.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Rosie Yacoub <rayacoub at yahoo.com>
To: Darien De Lu <conjoin at macnexus.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 5:44:38 AM
Subject: Re: FW: Robocops Come to Pittsburgh


uggh.? Too bad the deployment of that crap alone wasn't worth a front page headline, eh?? LRAD use actually made UTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3_dmrM
only press coverage I saw was Canadian, which waxed poetic about how LRAD prevents unneccessary police violence (no mention of when it IS unnecessary police violence).

What happened to the 1st amendment?

--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Darien De Lu <conjoin at macnexus.org> wrote:


>From: Darien De Lu <conjoin at macnexus.org>
>Subject: FW: Robocops Come to Pittsburgh
>To: 
>Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 11:02 AM
>
>
>Dear All,
>??? I hardly need ask whether you've heard about what had happened recently to the demonstrators in Pittsburg, since there was extremely little reporting on that.? But you probably didn't hear about the advance policing tools.? I hope we'll each consider how we, as active members of society, can work to ensure that our police - and our government - respect the human rights and civil liberties we have so long struggled to establish.
>??? As the article below (which describes many of the latest sci-fi-like new "crowd control" tools) finally observes at the end:
>
>In Pittsburgh last week, an enormously expensive show
>of police and weaponry, intended for "security" of the
>G20 delegates, simultaneously shut workers out of
>downtown jobs for two days, forced gasping students and
>residents back into their dormitories and homes, and
>turned journalists' press passes into quaint, obsolete
>reminders of a bygone time.
>
>Most significant of all, however, was what Witold
>Walczak, legal director of the Pennsylvania ACLU, told
>the Associated Press: "It's not just intimidation, it's
>disruption and in some cases outright prevention of
>peaceful protesters being able to get their message
>out."
>??? To quote the friend who sent me the below -
>
>??? Spraying crowds with Fentanyl patches soaked in DMSO (which speeds absorption through the skin)??????? That's one of the MILD measures in development, according to the story below. What's in store for us?
>??? ??? ??? ??? Yours, Darien
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: moderator at PORTSIDE.ORG [mailto:moderator at PORTSIDE.ORG]
>
>Robocops Come to Pittsburgh
>and bring the latest weaponry with them
>
>by Mike Ferner
>
>September 28, 2009
>
>No longer the stuff of disturbing futuristic fantasies,
>an? arsenal of "crowd control munitions," including one
>that reportedly made its debut in the U.S., was
>deployed with a massive, overpowering police presence
>in Pittsburgh during last week's G-20 protests.
>
>Nearly 200 arrests were made and civil liberties groups
>charged the many thousands of police (most transported
>on Port Authority buses displaying "PITTSBURGH WELCOMES
>THE WORLD"), from as far away as Arizona and Florida
>with overreactingand they had plenty of weaponry with
>which to do it.
>
>Bean bags fired from shotguns, CS (tear) gas, OC
>(Oleoresin Capsicum) spray, flash-bang grenades, batons
>and, according to local news reports, for the first
>time on the streets of America, the Long Range Acoustic
>Device (LRAD).
>
>Mounted in the turret of an Armored Personnel Carrier
>(APC), I saw the LRAD in action twice in the area of
>25th, Penn and Liberty Streets of Lawrenceville, an old
>Pittsburgh neighborhood.? Blasting a shrill, piercing
>noise like a high-pitched police siren on steroids, it
>quickly swept streets and sidewalks of pedestrians,
>merchants and journalists and drove residents into
>their homes, but in neither case were any demonstrators
>present.? The APC, oversized and sinister for a city
>street, together with lines of police in full riot gear
>looking like darkly threatening Michelin Men, made for
>a scene out of a movie you didnt want to be in.
>
>As intimidating as this massive show of armed force and
>technology was, the good burghers of Pittsburgh and
>their fellow citizens in the Land of the Brave and Home
>of the Free ain't seen nothin yet.? Tear gas and
>pepper spray are nothing to sniff at and, indeed, have
>proven fatal a surprising number of times, but they
>have now become the old standbys compared to the list
>below thats already at or coming soon to a police
>station or National Guard headquarters near you.
>Proving that "what goes around, comes around," some of
>the new Property Protection Devices were developed by a
>network of federally-funded, university-based research
>institutes like one in Pittsburgh itself, Penn State's
>Institute for Non-Lethal Defense Technologies.
>
>?????Raytheon Corp.'s Active Denial System, designed for
>crowd control in combat zones, uses an energy beam to
>induce an intolerable heating sensation, like a hot
>iron placed on the skin.? It is effective beyond the
>range of small arms, in excess of 400 meters.? Company
>officials have been advised they could expand the
>market by selling a smaller, tripod-mounted version for
>police forces.
>
>?????M5 Modular Crowd Control Munition, with a range of
>30 meters "is similar in operation to a claymore mine,
>but it delivers...a strong, nonpenetrating blow to the
>body with multiple sub-munitions (600 rubber balls)."
>
>?????Long Range Acoustic Device or "The Scream," is a
>powerful megaphone the size of a satellite dish that
>can emit sound "50 times greater than the human
>threshold for pain" at close range, causing permanent
>hearing damage.? The L.A. Times wrote U.S. Marines in
>Iraq used it in 2004.? It can deliver recorded warnings
>in Arabic and, on command, emit a piercing
>tone..."[For] most people, even if they plug their
>ears, [the device] will produce the equivalent of an
>instant migraine," says Woody Norris, chairman of
>American Technology Corp., the San Diego firm that
>produces the weapon. "It will knock [some people] on
>their knees."? CBS News reported in 2005 that the
>Israeli Army first used the device in the field to
>break up a protest against Israel's separation wall.
>"Protesters covered their ears and grabbed their heads,
>overcome by dizziness and nausea, after the
>vehicle-mounted device began sending out bursts of
>audible, but not loud, sound at intervals of about 10
>seconds...A military official said the device emits a
>special frequency that targets the inner ear."
>
>?????In "Non-lethal Technologies: An Overview," Lewer
>and Davison describe a lengthy catalog of new weaponry
>including the "Directed Stick Radiator," a hand-held
>system based on the same technology as The Scream.? "It
>fires high intensity sonic bullets' or pulses of sound
>between 125-150db for a second or two.? Such a weapon
>could, when fully developed, have the capacity to knock
>people off their feet."
>
>?????The Penn State facility is testing a "Distributed
>Sound and Light Array Debilitator" a.k.a. the "puke
>ray."? The colors and rhythm of light are absorbed by
>the retina and disorient the brain, blinding the victim
>for several seconds.? In conjunction with disturbing
>sounds it can make the person stumble or feel
>nauseated.? Foreign Policy in Focus reports that the
>Department of Homeland Security, with $1 million
>invested for testing the device, hopes to see it "in
>the hands of thousands of policemen, border agents and
>National Guardsmen" by 2010.
>
>?????Spider silk is cited in the University of
>Bradford's Non-Lethal Weapons Research Project, Report
>#4 (pg. 20) as an up-and-comer.? A research
>collaboration between the University of New Hampshire
>and the U.S. Army Natick Research, Development and
>Engineering Center is looking into the use of spider
>silk as a non-lethal "entanglement" material for
>disabling people. They have developed a method for
>producing recombinant spider silk protein using E. coli
>and are trying to develop methods to produce large
>quantities of these fibres."
>
>?????New Scientist reports that the (I'm not making this
>up) Inertial Capacitive Incapacitator (ICI), developed
>by the Physical Optics Corporation of Torrance,
>California, uses a thin-film storage device charged
>during manufacture that only discharges when it strikes
>the target. It can be incorporated into a ring-shaped
>aerofoil and fired from a standard grenade launcher at
>low velocity, while still maintaining a flat trajectory
>for maximum accuracy.
>
>?????Aiming beyond Tasers, the Homeland Security
>Advanced Research Projects Agency, (FY 2009 budget:
>$1B) the domestic equivalent of the Defense Advanced
>Research Projects Agency (DARPA), plans to develop
>wireless weapons effective over greater distances, such
>as in an auditorium or sports stadium, or on a city
>street.? One such device, the Piezer, uses
>piezoelectric crystals that produce voltage when they
>are compressed.? A 12-gauge shotgun fires the crystals,
>stunning the target with an electric shock on impact.
>Lynntech of College Station, Texas, is developing a
>projectile Taser that can be fired from a shotgun or
>40-mm grenade launcher to increase greatly the weapon's
>current range of seven meters.
>
>?????"Off the Rocker and On the Floor: Continued
>Development of Biochemical Incapacitating Weapons," a
>report by the Bradford Disarmament Research Centre
>revealed that in 1992, the National Institute of
>Justice contracted with Lawrence Livermore National Lab
>to review clinical anesthetics for use by special ops
>military forces and police.? LLNL concluded the best
>option was an opioid, like fentanyl, effective at very
>low doses compared to morphine.? Combined with a patch
>soaked in DMSO (dimethylsufoxide, a solvent) and fired
>from an air rifle, fentanyl could be delivered to the
>skin even through light clothing.? Another recommended
>application for the drug was mixed with fine powder and
>dispersed as smoke.
>
>?????After upgrades, the infamous "Puff the Magic
>Dragon" gunship from the Vietnam War is now the AC-130.
>"Non-Lethal Weaponry: Applications to AC-130 Gunships,"
>observes that "With the increasing involvement of US
>military in operations other than war..." the AC-130
>"would provide commanders a full range of non-lethal
>weaponry from an airborne platform which was not
>previously available to them."? The paper concludes in
>part that "As the use of non-lethal weapons increases
>and it becomes valid and acceptable, more options will
>become available."
>
>?????Prozac and Zoloft are two of over 100
>pharmaceuticals identified by the Penn State College of
>Medicine and the university's Applied Research Lab for
>further study as "non-lethal calmatives."? These
>Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs), noted
>the Penn State study, "...are found to be highly
>effective for numerous behavioral disturbances
>encountered in situations where a deployment of a
>non-lethal technique must be considered.? This class of
>pharmaceutical agents also continues to be under
>intense development by the pharmaceutical
>industry...New compounds under development (WO
>09500194) are being designed with a faster onset of
>action.? Drug development is continuing at a rapid rate
>in this area due to the large market for the treatment
>of depression (15 million individuals in North
>America)...It is likely that an SSRI agent can be
>identified in the near future that will feature a rapid
>rate of onset."
>
>In Pittsburgh last week, an enormously expensive show
>of police and weaponry, intended for "security" of the
>G20 delegates, simultaneously shut workers out of
>downtown jobs for two days, forced gasping students and
>residents back into their dormitories and homes, and
>turned journalists' press passes into quaint, obsolete
>reminders of a bygone time.
>
>Most significant of all, however, was what Witold
>Walczak, legal director of the Pennsylvania ACLU, told
>the Associated Press: "It's not just intimidation, it's
>disruption and in some cases outright prevention of
>peaceful protesters being able to get their message
>out."
>
>#####
>
>Mike Ferner is a writer from Ohio and president of
>Veterans For Peace
>
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct  6 15:14:20 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:14:20 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] plenary registration
Message-ID: <4ACBC13C.5010604@sbcglobal.net>

Only seven counties have submitted delegate lists!!!!

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE
This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more 
information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do 
not hit reply.  Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please circulate as appropriate.

REGISTRATION FOR THE OCTOBER GENERAL ASSEMBLY CLOSES THIS WEDNESDAY

Online registration will close at midnight on Wednesday 10/7. Please 
register
now to help the host committee with their final preparations.

         http://cagreens.org/plenary/

County Councils please remember to submit your delegate list online, also.

 >>>> IMPORTANT -- All delegate names must be submitted before the meeting.
Due to past problems, the Accreditation Committee will no longer accept
delegate name submissions at the meeting.

As of today, only seven counties have submitted their delegate list. Please
don't miss the Wednesday deadline.




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct  6 15:17:21 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:17:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] proposed agenda
Message-ID: <4ACBC1F1.6050104@sbcglobal.net>

  Tentative Agenda for Wednesday October 7-th 2009

Selection of Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher

*NEW* Selection of agenda preparer for next month?s meeting

Introductions and Announcements

Speaker from VTA Rider?s Group

Treasurer?s report

TABLING

Coordinators needed for
Thursday November 19-th DeAnza International Peace Bazaar
Saturday November 21-st Junior State
To Be Determined: Yard Sale

Sonoma County Plenary October 10-11^th
delegates and alternates
plenary agenda review group

Report on joint Santa Clara ? San Mateo meeting

Update on IRV in San Jose

Report on Coalition for a Downtown Hospital

Report from County Council meeting

Alternatives to the Death Penalty (SCCCADP)

Fundraising suggestion

Student Activists




From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Oct  7 12:58:04 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:58:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climage Change Press Release
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Oct  7 13:03:10 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:03:10 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cover-Girl Condi on Mercury News
Message-ID: <BAY140-W14619C66C51E174A663D659ECD0@phx.gbl>



   Wow, what a glamor-puss!

   Please comment on the web article or write the Mercury to tell them
what you think of making celebrities of war criminals, torturers, and
perjurers.
   
 http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_13502117



 		 	   		  
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From andid at cagreens.org  Wed Oct  7 14:19:27 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:19:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climage Change Press Release
In-Reply-To: <4ACCF2CC.7000701@charter.net>
References: <4ACCF2CC.7000701@charter.net>
Message-ID: <90746204-0C35-4E27-8FD5-65281D3F1FAC@cagreens.org>

I LOVE the quotes from you, Wes.  You really lay it on the line for  
them!

Apologies if your links have the answer to this but I am limited in  
time and frequency to log on.
WHAT is the Green Party doing for 350 Day, the International Day of  
Climate Action???  (see 350.org)  This is a worldwide global action  
by all persons and groups interested in making a strong statement  
about the need to drop carbon emissions to 350, a loooong way to go.   
What were the levels in 1990?

Since I have been hearing about pollution levels from my PreMed days  
at San Jose State University in the 1950s, I am easily MORE inclined  
to believe the increase of 6.3 F degrees.  I think we Homo saps are  
close to being totally f**cked already due to our arrogance and  
ignorance.

Yeah, we really should leave this planet and go into space to start  
over on a new world; we'll probably know how to do it all better  
there.  (I wonder if "they're" watching?)
Andrea

On Oct 7, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Wes Rolley wrote:

<clip>
> GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES
> http://www.gp.org
>
> For Immediate Release:
> Wednesday, October 7, 2009
>
> Contacts:
> Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, cell 202-904-7614,
> mclarty at greens.org
> Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, starlene at gp.org
>
>
> Greens, calling the Kerry-Boxer Senate bill on climate change an
> "armful of retreats and compromises," seek more immediate
> international action to curb global warming
>
> ? Green Party Speakers Bureau: Greens available to speak on the
> climate crisis, energy policy, and transportation
> http://www.gp.org/speakers/speakers-ecological.php
> http://www.gp.org/speakers/speakers-energy.php
>
>
> WASHINGTON, DC -- Green Party leaders criticized the Kerry-Boxer draft
> "cap and trade" climate change bill in the US Senate, calling it
> dangerously inadequate as evidence mounts that global warming is
> advancing more rapidly than scientists believed a few years ago.
>
> "While Democrats are calling the Kerry-Boxer bill ambitious and
> far-reaching, the proposed legislation doesn't come close to what we
> need to do now to halt the destruction of our future," said Wes
> Rolley, co-chair of the Green Party's EcoAction Committee.  "When
> President Obama goes to the UN Climate Change Summit, he needs to show
> up with real solutions to cut CO2 emissions and lower energy
> consumption, not with an armful of Kerry-Boxer retreats and
> compromises."
>
> A recent UN report warned that the earth is likely to heat up more
> than 2 degrees Celsius, which could lead to a global catastrophe
> (http://www.unep.org/compendium2009/PDF/ 
> Compendium2009_fullreport.pdf),
> while the UN Environment Program recently forecast a rise in
> temperature as high as 6.3 degrees Fahrenheit by the century's end
> (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/24/ 
> AR2009092402602.html).
>  The 2009 UN Climate Change Summit will take place December 7 to 18 in
> Copenhagen (http://en.cop15.dk).
>
> "The White House and Congress have the opportunity to lead the world
> in an immediate, intense, and concerted effort to prevent global
> warming and future wars over dwindling fresh water and other
> resources.  Unfortunately, they're retreating from the most important
> measures required in such an effort.  They're doing so out of
> deference to corporate lobbies," said Mr. Rolley.
>
> Greens said that the bill would only cut emissions by 7% below 1990
> levels by 2020, contrary to a recommendation from the
> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that developed countries,
> including the US, must reduce emissions by 25%, i.e., by 40% below
> 1990 levels, by 2020.
>
> Greens also warned that the bill would subsidize costly, dangerous,
> and false alternative energy sources.  Nuclear power is a proven
> security risk and threat to the environment.  Carbon capture creates a
> new kind of pollution through the disposal of carbon 'washed' from
> coal and allows coal companies to continue destroying and poisoning
> landscapes in states like West Virginia through mountaintop removal.
>
<clip>
> MORE INFORMATION
>
> Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org
> 202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN
> ? Green candidate database and campaign information:
> http://www.gp.org/elections.shtml
> ? Green Party News Center http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml
> ? Green Party Speakers Bureau http://www.gp.org/speakers
> ? Green Party ballot access page http://www.gp.org/2008-elections
> ? Green Party Livestream Channel http://www.livestream.com/ 
> greenpartyus
>
> "Greens: Obama and Congress are wrong on 'clean coal', nuclear energy,
> and emissions trading"
> Green Party press release, May 20, 2009
> http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=214
>
> "Time for Plan B: Cutting Carbon Emissions 80 Percent by 2020"
> By Lester R. Brown et al., Earth Policy Institute
> http://www.earth-policy.org/datacenter/pdf/80by2020notes.pdf
>
> Green Pages: The official publication of record of the Green Party of
> the United States
> Summer 2009 issue now online
> http://gp.org/greenpages-blog
>
>
>
> -- 
> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you  
> don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
>
> Wes Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024
> _______________________________________________
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From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:29:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: FW: [gpca-ptf] Presentation to the Plenary
 on the Water Plank Proposal of the Platform]
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Oct  7 21:36:22 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:36:22 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Letter to my Congressman
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct  8 08:11:02 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:11:02 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Who has button machine?
Message-ID: <4ACE0106.9040309@earthlink.net>


Who has the button machine?

I'd like to make a "350" button.

Gerry



From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct  9 09:21:37 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:21:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Platform Proposal at GA
Message-ID: <4ACF6311.20508@charter.net>

I want to take this opportunity to ask all delegates attending the GA to 
vote for the water plank as it is presented for approval. If you are not 
going to attend yourselves, please contact your county's delegates and 
urge approval.

Three current events dictate that we need this to be passed now.

1) The one receiving the most press is the fact that Governor 
Schwarzenegger has threatened to allow 600 bills, passed by the 
legislature, to die for lack of his signature.  The issue?  The 
legislature has not passed a solution to California's Water crisis that 
the Governor likes... you know... one that would allow for new dams and 
a major new canal... both the be named as the Governor's legacy. Thus, 
the urgency to take some action now, not next spring.

2) A group of concerned organizations will providing an alternative to 
the Governor this week.  The recommendations will be discussed during a 
media teleconference call on Friday, October 9, at 11:00 am.   I quote 
from a release received last night.
> Restore the Delta, representatives of the Delta community, fishing 
> organizations, and environmental groups will unveil alternative water 
> policy recommendations they are submitting to Governor Arnold 
> Schwarzenegger, Senate Pro Tem Steinberg, and Assembly Speaker Bass 
> Friday as they consider solutions to the state?s eminent water problems.
> "These policies will put California on the right track toward a 
> resilient water system founded on a sense of stewardship and 
> responsibility for the precious water resources we are privileged to 
> have," according to a statement from the groups. 
The Green Party was instrumental in helping Restore the Delta get 
started.  The first open invitation public meeting of this grassroots 
organization was Co-Sponsored by the Green Party of California after 
approval through GIWG.  The solutions that will be brought forth are 
very much in line with the content of the water plank, especially as 
both deal with regional water planning the call for the inclusion of ALL 
affected parties. Restore the Delta includes developer, agricultural and 
local governmental interests along with environmental and fishing 
advocates.    Besides Restore the Delta, the groups that have joined to 
develop these new recommendations are: Planning and Conservation League, 
Environmental Justice Coalition for Water, Clean Water Action, Sierra 
Club California, California Water Impact Network, California 
Sportfishing Protection Alliance, Friends of the River and the Southern 
California Watershed Alliance.

Passage of the water plank will establish that the GPCA is on the right 
side of the battle lines here and offer an opportunity for additional 
state wide publicity.

3).  The most recent report from the UN concerning climate change 
(September, 2009)  makes it clear that the world is not doing enough to 
prevent further damage to life on earth.  In much of California, that 
will be felt as a change in the availability of water.  Both the amounts 
of precipitation and their timing will change, with the biggest losses 
coming from a decreased ability to store water as mountain snow.  In 
fact, the very changes that Schwarzenegger proposes are large scale, 
very expensive and will not solve the problems of continued drought.
Last night, I took a walk down to the reservoir that I can see from my 
deck.  When standing near the current water line, I was well over 20 
feet below the high water mark.  It is clear that in times like now, 
there is not enough available water to keep the current reservoirs 
full.  It makes little sense in the time of worsening droughts to build 
more dams to capture less water.

The way out of this is to develop and support the type of bio-regional 
planning that is put forward in the water plank.

I urge all to get this done this GA and not to let it drag on again.

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From alexcathy at aol.com  Fri Oct  9 14:05:40 2009
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:05:40 -0400
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Peace Prize to Obama? The Most Ridiculous Thing
	I've Ever Heard in My Life!
Message-ID: <8CC173B647C4ACD-2464-1D02@webmail-m047.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Friends, 



When I saw some stuff posted on Facebook about President Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize, I thought it was another lame Facebook joke.? 



Imagine my reaction when I heard it was true!



C'mon, I like Obama but I think this is just about the most ridiculous
thing I have ever heard in my life.? I mean, the guy is presiding over,
not one, but *TWO* wars plus a half war in Pakistan that he's thinking
about escalating.? He submitted the biggest war budget in the history
of the U.S.? Moreover, the U.S. government, directly or indirectly is
involved in many, many low-intensity wars all over the planet,
involving Lebanon, Somalia, the Congo, the Philippines, Columbia.? 



It's ridiculous.? And of course, all "the liberals" are supposed to
cheer and the only dissenting voices in the mainstream media are
right-wing Republicans.? Just goes to show the breakdown of political
thinking is not just confined to our silly Republicans vs. Democratic
screaming and hollering here in the U.S. 





Alex Walker 
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Oct  9 14:34:01 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:34:01 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Eight years into the Af-Pak war began...
Message-ID: <4ACFAC49.4080400@aceweb.com>

In San Jose there was a noon event at Zoe Lofgren's office:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/ZoeLofgrenOffice/7Oct09/index.html

Then around dark the Mountain View Voices for Peace had a vigil:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/MVVP/Oct09/index.html

There were also other events scattered here and there. I apologize for
not being able to get to them. I am only a guy on a bicycle...
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest Change: Added review of Making a Killing, a DVD that shocked me.


From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Oct  9 14:37:02 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:37:02 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Ralph Nader is Coming to Town! FYI.
References: <361293.54909.qm@web50803.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CB54827-0F23-44E2-B50E-F433B4828C2F@cagreens.org>

Just in case it doesn't get noticed, I sent it.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: akio tanaka <akiot04 at yahoo.com>
> Date: October 8, 2009 6:17:12 PM PDT
> To: Jim Doyle <jimd at greens.org>
> Cc: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>, Andrea Dorey  
> <andid at cagreens.org>
> Subject: Ralph Nader is Coming to Town! (please forward)
>
> Dear Jim,
>
> Can you help spread the message amongst the Santa Clara County  
> Greens about Ralph Nader's visit to Palo Alto on Oct 16.
> Also thanks to everyone for helping spread the information people  
> about the KPFA election.
> The management scheduled a three and a half week fund drive smack  
> in middle of the election thereby preempting any news or  
> announcement about the election.
>
> Aki
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> --------------------------------------
>
> Ralph Nader, hero and inspiration to the many - even in the hard  
> and disappointing times we face - has written a book which one  
> might describe as his own fantasy and which he describes as follows:
>
>
> AUTHOR?S NOTE
>
> This book is not a novel. Nor is it nonfiction. In the literary world,
> it might be described as ?a practical utopia.? I call it a  
> fictional vision
> that could become a new reality. Some known and not-well-known people
> appear in fictional roles. I invite your imaginative engagement.
>
> Ralph Nader
> Washington, DC
> July 2009
>
> He will be speaking at the Commonwealth Club - Cubberley Theatre
> 4000 Middlefield Road
> Palo Alto, CA
> 7 pm - October 16, 2009
>
> ________________________  
> __________________________________________________________  
> __________________________
>
> www.commonwealthclub.org/sv/aboutsv/php
>
> www.nader.org
>
> http://onlythesuperrich.org/
>
>

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From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Fri Oct  9 18:22:07 2009
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:22:07 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Meet your State Senator
Message-ID: <018801ca4948$15773f90$3e159662@INTERBIKE06>

Meet your State Senator, Ellen Corbett, and learn what we can do to fix
California's problems.  The Senator will be speaking in the Milpitas
Library on Thursday, 10/29, at 6:00pm.  Come with questions,
observations, and suggestions to share.  

The Milpitas Democratic Club invites you and your neighbors for this
timely opportunity to participate in a conversation for a better
democracy.  For more information, contact Deepka Lalwani at
plalwani at aol.com
 
Rob Means, Secretary
Sunnyhills Neighborhood Association
P. O. Box 360581, Milpitas, CA 95036-0581
408-262-0420      rob.means at electric-bikes.com
www.neighborhoodlink.com/milpitas/sunnyhills
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From vdf at juno.com  Fri Oct  9 19:19:31 2009
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 02:19:31 GMT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Eight years into the Af-Pak war began...
Message-ID: <20091009.191931.12362.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>

Great pics, Tian!

But, needless to say, you do NOT have to apologize to a Green list for making a sustainable number of trips that day because you are a guy on a bicycle!!!

Valerie
Unapologetically car-free since 1980
;-)

---------- Original Message ----------
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:34:01 +0000
From: Tian Harter <tnharter at aceweb.com>
To: Post South SF Bay discus <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Eight years into the Af-Pak war began...

In San Jose there was a noon event at Zoe Lofgren's office:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/ZoeLofgrenOffice/7Oct09/index.html

Then around dark the Mountain View Voices for Peace had a vigil:

http://tian.greens.org/MountainView/MVVP/Oct09/index.html

There were also other events scattered here and there. I apologize for
not being able to get to them. I am only a guy on a bicycle...
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest Change: Added review of Making a Killing, a DVD that shocked me.
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Tue Oct 13 11:36:51 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:36:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party Meeting--October 7, 2009
Message-ID: <707240.55298.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

???????????????????????????????Green Party meeting--October 7, 2009

Before the meeting proper took place, we had two speakers. Eugene Bradley was brought to us by Tian. He represents the Silicon Valley Transit Users. They can be contacted at vtaridersunion.org .

On Oct. 1, fares were raised to $2. Rate hikes and service cuts hurt the most vulnerable. Most people who ride transit feel helpless to do anything, but the SVTU got VTA to post notices in buses of when board meetings are, and that riders have a right to go and to be heard. SVTU wants us and the Peace Center to go to VTA board meetings and show support.

HR2746, the Federal Transit Operations bill, would restore funds that have been cut. Zoe Lofgren and Jerry McNerny already cosigned this bill and are working on Honda to cosign as well.

The people have no say about who is on VTA board. Michael Burns is the current chairman. Mayor Chuck Reed sits on the board and chose five city council members to be on the board also in a meeting that took place at 1:30 a.m. Dolly Sandoval, ex-mayor of Cupertino, is also on the board.

Gillig company in Hayward makes hybrid buses. VTA just ordered 100 of these to be delivered next year.

Smriti, the Peace Center coordinator, also spoke to us briefly. She gave us handouts about an event they are holding next week.It is a talk and book signing by Ann Wright, retired Army Colonel and diplomat, who, inDissent: Voices of Conscience, tells the story of government insiders who spoke out against the Iraq war. The event will be held at First Christian Church, 80 S. 5th St., San Jose, on Wednesday, October 14 at 7 pm.

Smriti also is recruiting for new members for the Peace Center. They currently have a matching grant, so a $5 donation will get them $10. She left us newsletters and donation and membership materials.


?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Meeting

Those present: Andrea, Valerie, Tom Donahue, Merriam, Cameron, Brian, Warner, Jim Doyle, Jim Stauffer, Spencer Grove, Caroline, Tian, Gerry, Dana, Fred

Facilitator: Andrea
Timekeeper:Tom Donahue
Vibes Watcher: Merriam
Notetaker: Caroline
Agenda preparer for the November meeting will be Brian

Andrea gave a quick summary of Eugene Bradley's talk. Brian said the VTA is very corrupt. Board meetings are on first Thursdays from 5:30-7:00. We don't know where.

Treasurer's Report--Jim Doyle
We have taken in $1778 and spent $1731. We need more money. Our account is at Guaranty bank. Warner thought we ought to go over last year's projection and see how it compared to actual expenses. This year we have spent more than usual. Cost of tabling for some events has increased. We contributed to travel expenses for the plenary and national meeting.

Tabling--Jim Doyle
?
Upcoming tabling events:
De Anza International Peace Fair---November 19th--Caroline coordinating
Junior State--Tom Donahue coordinating--please help him, he's new
San Jose Peace Fair, 1st Saturday in December--Cameron coordinating, Merriam and Caroline will help

We are postponing the yard sale, but we plan to put some items on Craig's List.? Anybody with experience? doing this please contact Andrea.

Plenary--Warner and Jim S.
?
Andrea has submitted our reps.' names--Jim S., Warner, Andrea, Dana--Valerie and Tian alternates

Voting Threshold Correction--we accepted, but Jim D. wanted clarification.

Proposed Constitutional Convention--our recommendation is 4 NO votes. We don't ususally endorse things before they are on the ballot. This proposal wants us to take a position during the signature gathering process. Jim S. and Warner say we, as Green Party, have not discussed constitutional convention.

Proposed Platform Planks--
California Elections/Government--our recommendation is tha it not be adopted at this time, go back for rewrite
Revision of Water Plank--4 YES votes
Revision of Criminal Justice Plank--4 YES votes

Define a 'Purpose' statement for Article 2 of the GPCA bylaws to serve as the internal definition for guiding the goals and activities of the party, its bylaws, and its affiliated locals--4 YES votes
?
Proposed Coordinating Committee Election Method--
We currently have 16 regional members on the state coordinating committee and 4 at large members. Jim S. says there are too few members on this committee. This proposal would temporarily change the number of regional reps and increase the number of at-large reps.
Dana wanted to know if we would lose regions. We would not. The large Central Valley region would be split in two. There would be a cap of no more than three at-large reps coming from one county, so no county could dominate the CC.Warner would like to see an equal number of regional reps and at-large reps. Andrea agrees. Gerry asked if CC still makes major decisions during a 2 hour teleconference every month. They do. Gerry said that when he was our rep., it was difficult to get everything done during that time. Dana, who served with him, said that the problem with the teleconferences was that certain people were setting the agenda, and whoever sets the agenda controls the meeting. It was not easy to get items on.
Warner said we could vote NO on everything or take no position and let the delegates make up their own minds at the plenary.
Jim S. said there is a contingent that wants to go all at-large. LA decided not to dend anyone to the plenary. If Alameda doesn't show up, we still have "quorum by regions". 
We decided to take no position and let the delegates make up their minds at the plenary.

Regional Meeting
Notes on the regional meeting were posted to sosfbay on September 29.

Report on Coalition for a Downtown Hospital--Jim Doyle
I'll have to send you a more thorough report on this later. Or Jim will.

Alternatives to the Death Penalty--Valerie
Valerie thanked us for passing a resolution of support for SCCCADP. The League of Women Voters is?going to discuss?joining the coalition. They are looking for more organizations. 

Fundraising
We will have another Food 4 Thought event in January, and, hopefully, sell some stuff on Craig's List.

We need to be doing things to draw attention to the Climate Conference in Copenhagen in December.
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 13 21:14:55 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:14:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Obama in San Francisco Thursday Oct 15
Message-ID: <BAY140-W18169500DA681036B366CA9EC60@phx.gbl>


Saint Francis Hotel

Assemble:  4 PM - Union Square at Powell near Geary

Protest:  4:30 PM - Powell Street, between Geary & Post, in front of the St. Francis Hotel

I got this in an email alert from World Can't Wait, will post links when available

When Obama took office we had 7000 drones.  Now we have 12000.  According to
a former advisor to Gen. Petraeus, 700 Pakistani civilians have been killed by drones to
get 14 al Qaeda.  That is collective punishment and it is terrorism.

 		 	   		  
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Oct 14 10:57:49 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:57:49 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cloward for Congress in Contra Costa County!
Message-ID: <4AD6111D.8060402@aceweb.com>


http://tian.greens.org/California/ContraCostaCounty/JeremyCloward/101009IinConcord.html

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest Change: Added pictures taken eight years into G. W. Bush's wars.


From vdf at juno.com  Wed Oct 14 17:52:51 2009
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:52:51 GMT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SCCCADP website & events
Message-ID: <20091014.175251.2298.1@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

Hi folks,

The website for the Santa Clara County Coalition for Alternatives to the Death Penalty is now live:

www.santaclaraagainstdeathpenalty.org


The next coalition meeting will be:

Monday, November 2, 2009
6:30 - 8:00 PM
111 N Market St, Rm 470
San Jose, CA  95113


The League of Women Voters event I mentioned at our meeting now has a venue.  Here is the text of the announcement I received:

Please join us for

Ending the Death Penalty: 
How to Make Change on the Local Level

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 
from 7-9 pm 

at Congregation Beth Am 
in the Beit Keillah Room 
26790 Arastradero Road, Los Altos, Ca

Speakers: 
Natasha Minsker, ACLU of Northern California and
Judy Kerr, Spokesperson and Victim Liaison 
for California Crime Victims for Alternatives to the Death Penalty

Sponsored by the League of Women Voters of Palo Alto

Free and Open to the Public

For more information please contact: scccadp at aclunc.org
 or visit www.santaclaraagainstdeathpenalty.org


- Valerie

____________________________________________________________
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From vdf at juno.com  Wed Oct 14 18:00:40 2009
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:00:40 GMT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] SCCCADP website & events
Message-ID: <20091014.180040.2298.2@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

CORRECTION of Room # typo:

The next coalition meeting will be:

Monday, November 2, 2009
6:30 - 8:00 PM
111 N Market St, Rm 407 (NOT 470)
San Jose, CA  95113

Sorry about that.  Everything else in the original email is OK.

Valerie

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 14 20:10:03 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:10:03 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Greens Working for Better Election Laws]
Message-ID: <4AD6928B.5050402@earthlink.net>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Greens Working for Better Election Laws
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:19:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Green Party of the United States <gpinfo at gp.org>
Reply-To: gpinfo at gp.org
To: santaclara at cagreens.org


<clip>

     Greens Working for Better Election Laws

Members of the Green Party work daily recruiting candidates, educating
voters, lobbying their local and state governments, serving on local
boards and city councils, and lately, challenging obstructive and
unequal election and campaigning laws in court.? Below is a round-up of
some the latest legal moves and victories won by state Green Parties
across the country.? Your support

<clip>

of the Green Party on all levels is vital if we are going to continue to
work for better election laws and candidate recruitment.

Arkansas
The Green Party of Arkansas, with the assistance of the American Civil
Liberties Union, filed a complaint in U.S. District Court against the
Secretary of State of Arkansas.? Even though the party elected a member
to the state legislature and won more than 20% in several federal races,
the state has moved to decertify the party for lack of support.? The
lawsuit states that the "state's decertification statute violates rights
guaranteed to [the Green Party of Arkansas] by the First and Fourteenth
Amendments to the United States Constitution".??

Mark Swaney, Coordinator of the Green Party of Arkansas, emphasized the
importance of ballot access for the Green Party in Democrat-dominated
Arkansas, noting that "we are quite literally fighting for freedom and
democracy against a conservative Democratic party machine that can, and
usually does, see to it that the people of Arkansas have no say
whatsoever on election day".?

New Mexico
In May of this year, the New Mexico Green party filed suit against the
state, which had ceased recognizing the Green Party as a qualified
political party.? The GPNM's lawsuit claims, among other points, that
"The State has no justifiable interest in limiting voter choices to the
candidates of the major [Republican and Democratic] parties," that the
state has "no constitutional authority to limit the time available for
minor party candidates to obtain petition signatures for the office of
U.S. Representative," and that state law "Unconstitutionally
discriminates in favor of major parties and against minor parties in
violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to
the U. S. Constitution".?

Pennsylvania
The Green Party of Pennsylvania joined with the Constitution and
Libertarian Parties of Pennsylvania to file a lawsuit challenging
several aspects of election law.? According to Ballot Access News, the
lawsuit challenges "Pennsylvania's unique system of charging candidates
and parties for the costs of checking their petitions...It also
challenges the careless way in which some counties count write-ins and
others don't, and the arbitrary manner in which the state tallies
write-ins for some candidates and not others, and finally it challenges
the requirement that a party have approximately 1,000,000 registered
voters before it can be on the November ballot without having to
petition for its nominees."

This lawsuit is a result of Carl Romanelli's disqualification from the
race for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania's 2006 election.? After turning in
many thousands of signatures to win access to the ballot, his petition
was rejected and he was charged $85,000 by the state for attempting to
qualify to run for public office.?Carl Romanelli has continued to try to
convince the court to drop this fee, last filing a new petition with the
court in August of this year.?

The hearing for the Green Party's follow-up lawsuit is scheduled for
later this month.?


Florida
The Florida Green Party is uncovering a case of potential abuse of the
political system through a lawsuit to uncover the backgrounds of the
"Florida Five".? In 2008, five registered members of the Florida Green
Party filed to run for state legislature, despite being unknown to the
Green Party.? Suspecting that these mystery candidates were acting in
coordination with the Republican Party, Florida Greens filed lawsuits to
probe the campaign finance records of the mystery candidates, in order
to trace the source of their filing fees.

Earlier this month, the court began calling the five mystery candidates
to depositions to begin piecing together the background behind their
campaigns. ?With the court's help, the Florida Green Party continues to
probe the events of the 2008 elections and seek the truth about the
candidates that appeared on the Green Party ballot line.??????

Connecticut?
The Connecticut Green Party recently won a significant decision against
Connecticut's public campaign finance system, which the court ruled was
unfairly awarding public finances to major party candidates while
burdening the Green Party and other parties with inordinate obstacles to
public funds.?

A U.S. District Court judge ruled that Connecticut's public financing
scheme had? created a "discriminatory burden" for minor parties and had
unfairly inflated the public campaign funds that major parties were
awarded.? "We're very pleased", said Mike DeRosa, co-chair of the
Connecticut Green Party, that "the court ruled that real campaign
finance reform requires a level playing field."

The Green Party of the United States and our state Green Parties need
your support to continue working to level the playing field in court.?
We don't take money from real estate companies, private health insurance
providers, or lobbyists.? In fact, we don't take ANY corporate money
because we think corporate money in politics is wrong.? If you want to
help us work for fairer elections, please help us today.? Your donation

<clip>

to the Green Party will help us make sure we have a strong Green Party
today and into the future.

[Donate to GP Fund]

<clip>

You can help us reach the goal we set in July at our national meeting of
funding our operations with the help of 500 sustainers giving $10,000 a
month by the end of 2009.? Click here

<clip>

become a sustaining donor to the Green Party today!

Your gift of any amount will help to strengthen our voice so that we can
make our vision a reality.? With your help we can provide support for
candidates and spread the Green message.? If you have given recently,
please consider giving more.? And, if you haven't given in some time,
please make today the day you give.

<clip>

Email: gpinfo at gp.org

<clip>

Office: PO Box 57065 Washington, D.C. 20037 202-319-7191 or toll-free
(US): 866-41GREEN

We are not the alternative - we are the imperative. Rosa Clemente

<clip>




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 14 20:15:33 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:15:33 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Today We Honor Greens]
Message-ID: <4AD693D5.4020902@earthlink.net>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Today We Honor Greens
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:15:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Green Party of the United States <gpinfo at gp.org>
Reply-To: gpinfo at gp.org
To: santaclara at cagreens.org


<clip>

Dear Santa Clara County Greens,

As the Nobel Prize awards continue to be announced from Oslo this week,
the Green Party of the United States looks to honor those who support
the Green Party despite the incredible support the international
community has given to President Obama's version of "peace".

Despite Tuesday's Washington Post report that President Obama has
secretly authorized 13,000 more American soldiers to continue the
occupation of Afghanistan - in addition to an announced increase of over
20,000 soldiers - the Nobel Peace Prize committee chose to honor his
promises to bring about change.

We honor the Green Party members, supporters, candidates, and donors who
are helping create real change by supporting the real alternative to
corporate, war-making politics.

The Nobel Peace Prize committee chose to honor President Obama's promise
to end the American-led war in Iraq, yet over 100,000 American troops
still occupy that country.

We honor the hundreds of thousands of Americans who voted for Green
Party candidates in 2008 in an attempt to put real leaders into power -
leaders who follow up on their promises, work for real peace, and work
to save lives, not put them in harm's way.

The Nobel Peace Prize committee chose to honor President Obama's
promises to work for poor people around the world, and to re-shape our
economic policies to keep the rich from getting richer and the
middle-class and poor from continued suffering.? Yet the day before his
Nobel Peace Prize was awarded, President Obama's Department of Defense
requested $680 billion more in defense spending for the Pentagon.

We honor those who don't have million-dollar defense contracts but still
chose to give what they can to support the Green Party.? We honor those
who work every day to expose the corporate backing of our elected
officials in Washington and the favors those corporation get in return
for their "investment".

We honor the thosands of Greens who have participated in actions against
the Bush and Obama administration's war plans for Iraq and Afghanistan,
and we honor those who will once again take to the streets on October
17th in a national day of actions against those wars.

We honor YOU - the supporters of the Green Party of the United States -
and once against ask you to support us as we work from the grassroots to
elect local and county, state, and Congressional leaders who will take a
real stand for peace and will be able to back up the Peace Prizes they
win with actions, not just hope and promises.

Please help us fulfill our mission by donating

<clip>

to the Green Party today.? We don't take ANY corporate money because we
think corporate money in politics is wrong.? If you want to help us work
for peace, please help us today.? Your donation


<clip>

to the Green Party will help us make sure we have a strong Green Party
today and into the future.

[Donate to GP Fund]

<clip>

You can help us reach the goal we set in July at our national meeting of
funding our operations with the help of 500 sustainers giving $10,000 a
month by the end of 2009.? Click here

<clip>

become a sustaining donor to the Green Party today!

Your gift of any amount will help to strengthen our voice so that we can
make our vision a reality.? With your help we can provide support for
candidates and spread the Green message.? If you have given recently,
please consider giving more.? And, if you haven't given in some time,
please make today the day you give.

<clip>

Email: gpinfo at gp.org

<clip>

Office: PO Box 57065 Washington, D.C. 20037 202-319-7191 or toll-free
(US): 866-41GREEN

We are not the alternative - we are the imperative. Rosa Clemente

<clip>



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 15 00:24:21 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:24:21 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] UK Police stopped climate change activist
Message-ID: <4AD6CE25.1070403@earthlink.net>


"Climate Change Activist Stopped from Travelling to Copenhagen"

     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/10/14-11

Gerry




From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Oct 15 10:03:51 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:03:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: White House tells Single Payer docs to shut
	up!
Message-ID: <339849.61401.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
To: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:14:54 PM
Subject: White House tells Single Payer docs to shut up!

Here's a posting yesterday on the PNHP blog about the docs being shunned by the White House. It's unbelievable. I did catch Paul Hochfeld, from Mad As Hell Docs, talk about crashing the white coat party in the Rose Garden on Keith Olbermann. Keith is getting very feisty and so eloquent on this whole mess.
?
?
One very disturbing part is:
Supporters of the Mad as Hell Doctors along the way sent thousands of emails requesting a White House meeting only to find a solitary email in reply: stop sending these emails. 
?
I say let's bombard the White House site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
?
It's cyberspace civil disobedience!!

http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/10/13/our-professional-responsibility/
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From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Thu Oct 15 10:53:17 2009
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:53:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: White House tells Single Payer docs to
	shut up!
Message-ID: <20091015175317.8317D6A948@truffula.sj.ca.us>


>=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huid=
>in reply: stop sending these emails. =0A=A0=0AI say let's bombard the White=
>House site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/=0A=A0=0AIt's cyberspace civ=
>il disobedience!!

Sure, the WH will be really impressed with a failed denial of service attack.
(Not.)  It's a good thing these morons aren't going to make a dent.
Civil disobedience means getting prosecuted, and the morons really
don't want to find out the penalties available for persecuting
abusers of that particular network segment.
Stupidest idea since the "fax blitz."

-Cameron




From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Oct 15 12:24:24 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:24:24 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bio-composites: Building a Sustainable Future
Message-ID: <4AD776E8.3070801@aceweb.com>

TNHarter at aol.com wrote:

 >
 > *Sarah Billington
 > Oct. 14th*
 >
 > *Bio-composites: Building a Sustainable Future*
 >
 >
 > Sarah Billington is Associate Professor in the  Department of Civil
 > and Environmental Engineering at Stanford University, an
 > interdisciplinary department committed to finding solutions to the
 > sustainability challenges of our time and covering three main areas,
 > the built environment, atmosphere and energy, and the water
 > environment.
 >
 > Sarah's research in structural engineering focuses on the
 > investigation of high performance, sustainable materials and their
 > behavior, design and simulation in structural systems. In 2004, she
 > and her colleagues received a two-year Environmental Venture Projects
 > grant from Stanford's Woods Institute for the Environment to develop
 > artificial wood that is both durable and recyclable. The research
 > team focused on a new class of construction material called
 > biodegradable composites, or "biocomposites"-glue-like resins
 > reinforced with natural fibers that are made from plant fibers and
 > recyclable polymers.
 >
 > Sarah will give an overview of her work with bio-composites - in her
 > words "a great opportunity to make products that serve a societal
 > need and respect and protect the natural environment."
 >

Sarah began by explaining that cement manufacture gives off roughly 5% 
of our CO2 emissions, and 40% of the space in our landfills is used by 
construction and demolition debris. She came into the equation looking 
for a way to do something about that. One of her colleagues is looking 
for a way to make use of the methane from wet landfills and waste water 
treatment plants. Together they are developing ways to recycle used 
materials back into new construction materials.

Fiber reinforced composites consist of a matrix and a fiber bonded 
together into a material that has a better mix of qualities than either 
alone. Sarah's composites use PHB (Polyhydroxybuterate) for the matrix. 
These are created by bacteria that store the carbonfrom methane as PHB 
in their cells. The PHB is then extracted from the bacteria and can be 
formed into pellets, which are combined with fiber to make composites.

The composites she has made to date have similar properties to many 
types of wood. They tend to be not quite as stiff, and are expected to 
melt at about 180 ' Centigrade. The stuff can be molded into almost any 
shape. At this point it is still expensive compared to wood, but with 
further research and understanding of the material behavior, they hope 
to find ways to bring costs down.

PHB could also be used for making biodegradable plastics.  The main 
requirements for getting PHB is a supply of methane and a digester for 
the bacteria to work their magic in.


They are currently working in various ways to have the bacteria produce 
PHB more efficiently. Sarah is hopeful they will find applications for 
PHB matrix materials that will be competitive in the construction 
marketplace within ten years.

During Q&A a number of points came up:

Cow manure could be used to provide the methane to grow PHB.

Peanuts for packaging might be an excellent market for the PHB.

The composites tends to be heavier than equivalent plywood, and not 
quite as stiff.

They have figured out how to make it transparent but it has a yellowish 
tint.

They haven't looked into using used clothing as a source of fiber for 
composites.

They don't yet know if termites will eat the stuff.

Without a protective coating or fiber treatments the stuff absorbs water 
and loses stiffness.

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Added pictures I took at Decompression09, my Burning Man for the year.


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 15 15:25:53 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:25:53 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] holiday peace fair
Message-ID: <4AD7A171.1070802@sbcglobal.net>


*The NEXT Holiday Peace Fair planning meeting will be Saturday 10/24 at 
10 AM at the Campbell United Methodist Church, 1675 Winchester Blvd. 
(1/2 block south of Hamilton Avenue) in the Asbury Room -- to the left 
from the parking lot behind the church.*
*
Tickets and flyers will be available there and after that at the SJ 
Peace and Justice Center,*
*48 S. 7th Street (north of SJSU) -- open 4-7 PM, Monday - Friday*
*(final planning meeting will be Nov. 14 at 10 AM, probably at the church)*
*
*


*The 27th Annual Holiday Peace Fair will be held at the Campbell United 
Methodist Church, 1675 Winchester Blvd., Campbell, on Saturday, December 
5, 2009 from 10 AM to 4 PM*
*(Note one hour earlier opening time)

*
*1) proposal and agreement to increase ticket donation amount from $1 to 
$2 this year*
*2) increase the table prices to $40 for a full table and $20 for a 1 ? 
2 table.
If the vendors provide their own tables with rubber tipped legs, the 
charges are $5 less *
*3) change in hours, with vendor groups able to begin their sales at 10 
AM instead of 11 AM.
Closing time remains the same at 4 PM*
*
The Low Income Self Help Center, was selected as the local beneficiary 
group for this year,
and Joan Bazar is checking on some of the possibilities for the 
international recipient,
including ANERA (Gaza), Middle East Children's Alliance, Haiti, 
International Solidarity
Movement (re Gaza work), etc. [Note: International Solidarity Movement 
selected.]
*



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 15 16:00:28 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:00:28 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] civil disobedience
Message-ID: <4AD7A98C.1030100@sbcglobal.net>

Cameron had two very good points in his posting:

Civil disobedience means getting prosecuted,
and
to find out the penalties available for persecuting abusers
(of service denial attacks)

In either case, check what the possible down side is before acting.





From wrolley at charter.net  Thu Oct 15 21:53:53 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:53:53 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Greening on 350.org
Message-ID: <4AD7FC61.5080406@charter.net>

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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Oct 15 23:41:44 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:41:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: International Day of Climate Action | Native
	Plant Sale and Acorn Harvesting Workshop this Weekend | Green
	Your Halloween
Message-ID: <608640.31913.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Do you get this Acterra stuff?



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From: Laura Stec <lauras at acterra.org>
To: carolineyacoub at att.net
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:59:08 PM
Subject: International Day of Climate Action | Native Plant Sale and Acorn Harvesting Workshop this Weekend | Green Your Halloween


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Cupertino Walk to Take Action for Climate Change
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For more information, please visit our Green at Home Walk to Take Action webpage

12th United Nations Association Film Festival "Energy and the World"
October 17 - 25
For more information, please visit the UNAFF 2009 website

"3rd Tuesday" Habitat Restoration Day
Tues., October 20
9:00 am - 1:00 pm
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Cupertino Green at Home HouseCall Volunteer Training
Tues., October 20 AND October 27
5:30 pm - 9:45 pm
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"Is Solar Energy Right for Your Home?"
Thurs., October 22
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
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"Low Carbon Lifestyle" Class
Thurs., October 22, November 5, November 19 AND December 3
7:30 pm - 9:00 pm
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Habitat Restoration Days at the Pearson-Arastradero Preserve
Sat., October 24
9:00 am - 1:00 pm
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Wednesday Weed Warriors
3:30 pm - 5:30 pm
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October 15, 2009




International Day of Climate Action - October 24th, 2009


On October 24th, people from more than 100 nations will be taking part in a global call to action against climate change.

School children will plant 350 trees in Bangladesh, scientists will hang banners saying "350" on the statues on Easter Island, 350 scuba divers will dive underwater at the Great Barrier Reef. These creative actions and more will send a powerful message to world leaders that the global community demands a reduction in the amount of C02 in our atmosphere to 350 parts per million, the level scientists have identified as the safe upper limit.

Locally, several organizations have plans to participate in this worldwide call to action - local churches will ring their bells 35 times, volunteers will work for 3.50 hours restoring Ravenswood Pond, and there will be a local "Green Roofs Initiative" kick-off event, to name a few activities.? If you would like to join in these or other activities, or if you would like to create your own event, please visit 350.org for information and further details.

To do our part, Acterra's Green at Home program is working to complete our 350th HouseCall before October 24. We need less than five more sign-ups to reach this goal! To sign up for YOUR free energy-saving HouseCall (residents of Redwood City, Menlo Park, Palo Alto, Sunnyvale and Cupertino only), please visit our Green at Home HouseCall webpage.? We have a prize ready for the 350th resident, so sign up today!
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Acterra's Native Plant Nursery will be selling plants at the California Native Plant Society's open-to-the-public Native Plant Sale!

When: Saturday, October 17, 10:00 am - 3:00 pm

Where: Hidden Villa
26870 Moody Road, Los Altos Hills [MAP]

Show up earlier rather than later to get the best selection of native plants that are indigenous to our area. For more information about the Native Plant Sale, please visit the event website.
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"Oaks of the Preserve and Acorn Harvesting"
White Oak, Blue Oak, Black Oak, what type of Oak do I see? Come learn to identify the oaks of Arastradero Preserve. Learn about their lives and their communities. Did you know a large oak can produce up to 500 hundred pounds of acorns in a year and that they support hundreds of species of wildlife? Which oaks are doing well, and which need our help? Come learn about and help the oaks by collecting and planting acorns along the way!

When: Sunday, October 18, 9:00 am - 12:00 pm

Where: Pearson-Arastradero Preserve

Cost: Free? [REGISTER NOW]


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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 16 09:12:04 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:12:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Water District is a newa Green opportunity.
Message-ID: <4AD89B54.8050408@charter.net>

Among the list of the bills that the Guv was shamed into signing (as 
opposed to sitting on them while he pouted about the water issue) was AB 
466 sponsored by Joe Coto (San Jose).  As as result, the 7 member water 
district board will now have all of the members chosen by election 
instead of their being 2 at large members appointed by the Board of 
Supervisors.

According to the Morgan Hill Times this AM, there will need to be new 
boundaries for the district.  A 5 member board was considered with 
boundaries to match the supervisor districts, but that was apparently 
too simple.  So, there will be an election for 4 new water district 
directors in November 2010.

So, there are more openings for Greens to run without having to 
challenge a sitting director.  Sig Sanchez, currently one of the 
appointed directors, plans to retire in January.  We should closely 
watch what he does, as that would give the Board of Supervisors the 
opportunity to appoint a political crony and trying to guarantee the a 
continuance of the status quo.

Among other political maneuvering to look for are for current director 
Rosemary Kamei to run for the Board of Supervisors and for Don Gage, 
current but being termed out.Supervisor,  to run for Water District 
Board.  Cozy, no? 

Sidebar: I doubt that Kamei has any chance of winning the supervisor's 
seat.

The newly adopted water plank of the GPCA platform, with it's emphasis 
on water management policy, gives this issue a real focus at the present 
time. That plank should be a key guide for anyone who wants to run for 
this seat.


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Oct 16 09:46:50 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:46:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Single Payer Action?
Message-ID: <00F9A776-9EC1-40C3-9143-CBA6A06C529B@cagreens.org>

For those who are interested in getting GREAT health care for $$ 
$peanuts (when compared to the costs from profiteering insurance  
outfits) note this important event:

Attend a national single payer conference in St Louis on Nov 14 and  
15.   Airfares are about $350, hotel rooms are $89, and registration  
is $30.  Go to:
http://www.healthcare-now.org/campaigns/strat-conf/
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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Oct 16 09:53:38 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:53:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Greening on 350.org
In-Reply-To: <4AD7FC61.5080406@charter.net>
References: <4AD7FC61.5080406@charter.net>
Message-ID: <70DD0A2A-F283-428D-930E-7CF8A3E1FA60@cagreens.org>

Some of us Greens are joining the actions of others to celebrate 350  
Day on the 24Th.
Congratulations on getting picked up by 350.org!!  I hope they know  
you're a Green.  This is and should be our BIG issue.
Andrea

On Oct 15, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Wes Rolley wrote:

> This was my blog day post and it got picked up by 350.org.
> __
> I have really begun to think that Obama has made a colossal blunder  
> in the way that he has chosen to handle climate change. It would  
> seem to me that his presidency will be evaluated by history on the  
> manner in which he has reacted to this crisis. It won't be Iraq,  
> Bush's war, nor even Afghanistan? now known as Obama's War. It  
> won't be health care. But those are the issues on which he has  
> chosen to spend his time and his political capital.
>
> It could be argued that he did not choose Iraq and Afghanistan.  
> True about Iraq but he certainly has, from the days of the  
> campaign, chosen to play in Afghanistan.
>
> It is the focus on health care that concerns me and makes me  
> question his judgment. It has the ring of a young man trying to  
> prove that he could get done what Clinton could not, taking Obama  
> forever out of Clinton's shadow.
>
> But this is not issue number one. It won't determine the fact of  
> our economy, or of our comfortable lifestyle. Climate Change will.  
> Failure to address the biggest elephant in the room is a way to be  
> trampled and I don't want my children to suffer for Obama's failure  
> to take his biggest challenge head on.
>
> In the mean time, opposition to Obama has had the opportunity to  
> hone their economic arguments about big government and the costs to  
> the tax payers. If the opposition to the economic bailouts has this  
> ring, and the opposition to health insurance reform has this ring,  
> what do you think will be the key element of the Republican  
> opposition to doing anything about climate change? I can just hear  
> Boehner and McConnel droning on now while Glen Beck stirs up the  
> troops by labeling them "Commies".
>
> There is only a very short time between now and the next meeting of  
> the United Nations Climate Change Conference - Copenhagen. The best  
> Obama can bring to the meeting is a flawed bill from the House of  
> Representatives, a draft of a bill from the US Senate and a history  
> of having climate change treaties not being ratified in the Senate.  
> The prospects are bleak.
>
> At this point, Obama has yet to expend any political capital to try  
> and get a climate change bill passed in the Senate. Most of the  
> heavy lifting about the economics of this issue has been carried by  
> Joseph Romm at the Climate Progress blog. Even today, Romm cited  
> Entergy CEO J. Wayne Leonard on Climate Change.
> We are virtually certain that climate change is occurring, and  
> occurring because of man?s activities. We?re virtually certain the  
> probability distribution curve is all bad. There?s no good things  
> that?s going to come of this. But what?s uncertain is exactly which  
> one of those things are going to occur and in what time frame. In  
> the probability distribution curve is about a 50% probability that  
> about half of all species will become extinct or be subject to  
> extinction over this period of time. What we will never know on an  
> ex ante basis is whether or not man be one of those casualties or not.
>
> We condemn Wall Street for taking risks with our economy ? risks  
> that all of you are trying very hard to reverse ? but at the same  
> time we?re taking exactly the same kind of risks, with no upside  
> whatsoever, with regard to our climate, failing to practice even  
> the basic risk management techniques in terms of climate change  
> reduction.
> In the same post, he quotes Carol Browner as saying it would be a  
> ?big mistake? if Congress passed a clean energy bill without a cap  
> on emissions.
>
> I agree with her assessment. I just don't think that this Congress  
> has the courage to do that. There are too many who are too willing  
> to compromise too much for the sake of another vote. So, we will  
> invest in oxymoronic clean coal technologies until we figure out  
> that it is too late. We will shift to burning wood at our power  
> plants because it will be called a "renewable" and the CO2 will  
> fill the skies as before.
>
> This the the issue where science and politics are on a collision  
> course. We must not let the politicians win. How I wish that there  
> were Green willing to stand up and challenge Barbara Boxer in the  
> Senatorial Race this year. Her Republican Opposition seems to be  
> demonstrating their ineptitude at every turn, though Fiorina could  
> bankroll whatever she wants for as long as she wants. DeVore might  
> have the so many manic Republican votes locked up that she will  
> drop out rather than throw good money after bad and we know that  
> DeVore's solution to everything is to go nuclear.
>
> The challenge from a Green would be all about doing the right  
> thing, about standing for ones values and not the value of a  
> contribution. If done right, it would be about correcting Obama's  
> big blunder and saving humanity
>
> -- 
> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you  
> don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
>
> Wes Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 16 10:14:56 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:14:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sumitomo Bank predicts dollar decline to 50 yen
	imminent
Message-ID: <BAY140-W130D9F044A5FF6BAA658259EC40@phx.gbl>


  
 ?The U.S. economy will deteriorate into 2011 as the
effects of excess 
consumption and the financial bubble linger,?
said Daisuke Uno at 
Sumitomo Mitsui, a unit of Japan?s third-biggest bank. ?The dollar?s fall 
won?t stop until there?s a
change to the global currency system.?

   China, India, Brazil and Russia this year called for a
replacement to the 
dollar as the main reserve currency.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=a_A5nqmw9Dq8

 		 	   		  
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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Oct 16 10:34:16 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:34:16 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sumitomo Bank predicts dollar decline to 50
	yen imminent
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W130D9F044A5FF6BAA658259EC40@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W130D9F044A5FF6BAA658259EC40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F2C0E844-7E15-47C5-ADCB-E0258681AB02@cagreens.org>

Also, I'm hearing on KPFA that the downturn in jobs is likely to  
continue well into 2013 and possibly 2015.

It's going to be a long haul for the unlucky.  And without "Medicare  
for All" (AKA Single Payer), a bunch of people and their families are  
going to be without health care for the duration while they search  
fruitlessly for employment.

If Obama's health care passes (especially w/o the "private option,"  
however LIMITED that will be in eligible recipients and discounted  
fees), the dollars that the jobless will desperately need for food  
and shelter is going to be paid BY MANDATE to the insurance company  
pit vipers.

We MUST DEMAND "Medicare for All" now!!!!
Andrea

On Oct 16, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Brian Good wrote:

>
>  ?The U.S. economy will deteriorate into 2011 as the effects of excess
> consumption and the financial bubble linger,? said Daisuke Uno at
> Sumitomo Mitsui, a unit of Japan?s third-biggest bank. ?The  
> dollar?s fall
> won?t stop until there?s a change to the global currency system.?
>
>    China, India, Brazil and Russia this year called for a  
> replacement to the
> dollar as the main reserve currency.
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=a_A5nqmw9Dq8
>
>
> Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now.
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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Oct 16 10:40:00 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:40:00 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: White House tells Single Payer docs to
	shut up!
In-Reply-To: <339849.61401.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <339849.61401.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9606AFB8-7A04-4EA2-A692-F0401796C895@cagreens.org>

Let's also Send Obama a Buck!
Several people at Cotati took my printed form and told me they plan  
to send dollars.  I also suggested to them that they send one a month  
or even one a week.
I'm going to do it too.
If we don't do something that gets some media attention, we are going  
to lose this opportunity to get what we MUST HAVE.	
Andrea

On Oct 15, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:

>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
> To: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:14:54 PM
> Subject: White House tells Single Payer docs to shut up!
>
> Here's a posting yesterday on the PNHP blog about the docs being  
> shunned by the White House. It's unbelievable. I did catch Paul  
> Hochfeld, from Mad As Hell Docs, talk about crashing the white coat  
> party in the Rose Garden on Keith Olbermann. Keith is getting very  
> feisty and so eloquent on this whole mess.
>
>
> One very disturbing part is:
> Supporters of the Mad as Hell Doctors along the way sent thousands  
> of emails requesting a White House meeting only to find a solitary  
> email in reply: stop sending these emails.
>
> I say let's bombard the White House site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/ 
> contact/
>
> It's cyberspace civil disobedience!!
>
> http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/10/13/our-professional-responsibility/
>
>
>
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From andid at cagreens.org  Fri Oct 16 10:41:23 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:41:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: White House tells Single Payer docs to
	shut up!
In-Reply-To: <20091015175317.8317D6A948@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20091015175317.8317D6A948@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <72F94CD1-A954-4CE9-869D-ABB83ECB69BE@cagreens.org>

Cameron,
I don't think it's disobedience until they tell each person to stop.
Andrea

On Oct 15, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:

>
>> =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Lynn Huidekoper  
>> <lynn_huid=
>> in reply: stop sending these emails. =0A=A0=0AI say let's bombard  
>> the White=
>> House site: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/=0A=A0=0AIt's  
>> cyberspace civ=
>> il disobedience!!
>
> Sure, the WH will be really impressed with a failed denial of  
> service attack.
> (Not.)  It's a good thing these morons aren't going to make a dent.
> Civil disobedience means getting prosecuted, and the morons really
> don't want to find out the penalties available for persecuting
> abusers of that particular network segment.
> Stupidest idea since the "fax blitz."
>
> -Cameron
>
>
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 16 12:49:12 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:49:12 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bill McKibben re 10/24
Message-ID: <4AD8CE38.2010204@earthlink.net>


About his thoughts on organizing to mitigate climate change.

"Organizing the Biggest Day of Action the World Has Ever Seen"
     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/10/15-5

Gerry




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 16 14:10:04 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:10:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Carbon Emissions Must Peak By 2015
Message-ID: <4AD8E12C.1030301@earthlink.net>


"Carbon Emissions Must Peak by 2015: UN Climate Scientist"
     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/10/16-0

(message is from the chair of the IPCC)

Gerry




From danasg at greens.org  Sun Oct 18 20:20:04 2009
From: danasg at greens.org (Dana St. George)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:20:04 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sta.Clara County Council Meeting  - 10/18/09
Message-ID: <4ADBDAE4.5050201@greens.org>

				SCCGP-CC Meeting Notes - 10/18/0``				
					
Facilitator:  Andrea Dorey
Notetaker:  Dana St. George
Present:    Tian Harter, Caroline Yacoub, Carol Brouillet, Dana St. George, Andrea Dorey,
		Gerry Gras, Jim Stauffer.

-HOSTING STATE MEETING,(Feb - March) Jim Stauffer - Considerations re:hosting next plenary	
		Possible locations:	Santa Clara University (Carolyn will check it out)
					SJSU  (Tian)
					De Anza  (Andrea)
					Foothill Middlefield  (Dana)
					Stanford  (Brian)
					San Luis Obispo  (Peg Koteen)

REPORTS ON STATE MEETING/COTATI:
Restructuring Proposal, Jim Stauffer:
	The restructuring proposal passed, so the new State Coordinating Committee will have 26 
members, 14 of them At Large members.  Recruiting will start for these At Large seats.
Other Delegates:  Andrea Dorey attended the Media Committee meeting.  It has not been very 
active, as Cres Velucci has been ill.
		  Dana St. George attended Green Issues, which was  a fairly large group.  Issues 
discussed included global warming, California water problems, single payer healthcare, 
clean money, electoral reform, monetary reform.
		  Jim Stauffer attended the Electoral Reform Working Group (Earwig) where
progress and problems regarding IRV and other reforms were reported on.

TREASURER'S REPORT:  None.  Jim Doyle not present.  (Need to generate next year's budget)

350.org:	Gerry Gras, Andrea Dorey. Discussed ways to publicize upcoming day of action on 
October 24:  also distributed copies of event flyers to CC members;  Gerry Gras made 
buttons.  Other suggestions, Andrea Dorey:  Distribute flyers by riding to various BART 
stations;  paint rocks with "350.org" and distribute in stores and restaurants.

NEW DECEPTION DOLLARS, Carol Brouillet: New dollars will feature a white guy with an Obama 
mask and Dick Cheney with a Bush mask.  Carol is willing to work with GP to make a 
Deception Dollar for us.

SUGGESTION:  Andrea Dorey, Caroline Yacoub:  Need to make and post list of tabling events 
throughout the year on the website, to encourage and inform volunteers.

NEXT MEETING:  November 15, at Caroline Yacoub's house.


County Council members say, "Thank you Caroline, for opening your home and providing a 
welcoming atmosphere and great munchies!"




















From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct 19 16:26:44 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:26:44 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 2010 budget
Message-ID: <4ADCF5B4.5020303@sbcglobal.net>

Now accepting requests for items to be included in the 2010 budget.

For example, up front expenses for hosting a plenary.

Be glad to hear from you.

Jim Doyle




From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Mon Oct 19 18:41:03 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Deception Dollars
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1255978804.13052.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <692784.36675.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have a major problem with the idea that "a white guy" is wearing an Obama mask. It debases our opposition to Obama's policies, because my first reaction is this depicts us seeing him as not Black enough and that White people are all bad.
If it were George Bush wearing an Obama mask, that would be a much better representation of my criticism of Obama.
-edward

NEW DECEPTION DOLLARS, Carol Brouillet: New dollars will feature a white guy with an Obama mask and Dick Cheney with a Bush mask.? Carol is willing to work with GP to make a Deception Dollar for us.



      
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Oct 19 19:21:19 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:21:19 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Deception Dollars
In-Reply-To: <692784.36675.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <692784.36675.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ADD1E9F.7080509@aceweb.com>

I'd say better Cheney or somebody like that. Bush going from class clown
to puppet master just doesn't work for me.

Edward wrote:
> I have a major problem with the idea that "a white guy" is wearing an 
> Obama mask. It debases our opposition to Obama's policies, because my 
> first reaction is this depicts us seeing him as not Black enough and 
> that White people are all bad.
> 
> If it were George Bush wearing an Obama mask, that would be a much 
> better representation of my criticism of Obama.
> 
> -edward
> 
>     NEW DECEPTION DOLLARS, Carol Brouillet: New dollars will feature a
>     white guy with an Obama mask and Dick Cheney with a Bush mask. 
>     Carol is willing to work with GP to make a Deception Dollar for us.
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Lastest change: Added pictures I took at San Jose BIKE PARTY on Friday.


From cbrouillet at igc.org  Tue Oct 20 10:22:17 2009
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:22:17 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Film Screening- FRESH
Message-ID: <E1N0IPa-0002W1-Ow@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

FRESH: The Film Join us for a screening of FRESH, 
the film, followed by an exciting panel of local 
experts in agriculture, sustainability and food activism!

Monday, November 2nd at 5:30pm

San Mateo Public Library
55 West Third Avenue
San Mateo 1st Floor ? Oak Room Theatre
More Info

FRESH celebrates the farmers, thinkers and 
business people across America who are 
re-inventing our food system. Each has witnessed 
the rapid transformation of our agriculture into 
an industrial model, and confronted the 
consequences: food contamination, environmental 
pollution, depletion of natural resources, and morbid obesity.

Forging healthier, sustainable alternatives, they 
offer a practical vision for a future of our food and our planet.

72 minutes. Produced and directed by ana Sofia joanes.
Public Transportation

Accessible by CalTrain (San Mateo station) and 
SamTrans (295, 255, 391, 390, 397, 55). Bicycle 
racks available onsite. Free parking under Library.
Cost Information

Suggested donation: $5

More information: (650) 324-2769

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 20 10:42:23 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:42:23 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cellulose Reinforcement of Arctic Ice Proposed
Message-ID: <BAY140-W167F145B39F2C9079ECB6F9EC00@phx.gbl>




http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/10/global-warming-cannon-saves-world.html

Pycrete is sawdust-fortified ice developed during WWII by Geoffrey Pyke, who proposed to build aircraft carriers out of it.  It's 5X more resistant to melting than natural ice is.  

Ice reinforced with strips of newspaper is almost 60 times more resistant to melting than natural ice is.


























 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 20 11:35:46 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:35:46 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change Movie
Message-ID: <4ADE0302.4030503@earthlink.net>


The United Nations Association is having a film festival
right now.  Most of it is at Stanford.

The mission statement:
     http://www.unaff.org/2009/

The schedule:
     http://www.unaff.org/2009/schedule.html

The climate change movie, Sat. 10/24 9:15PM:
     "Age of Stupid"
     http://www.unaff.org/2009/f_age.html

===============================
[from the web page]

It's the year 2055 and runaway climate change has ravaged the planet. 
Pete is the founder of The Global Archive, a storage facility located in 
the (now melted) Arctic, preserving all of humanity's achievements in 
the hope that the planet might one day be habitable again. Or that 
intelligent life may arrive and make use of all that we've achieved. He 
pulls together clips of "archive" news and documentary from 1950-2008 to 
build a message showing what went wrong and why. The film uses real 
documentary footage to move between six main stories that range from 
Hurricane Katrina to melting Alpine glaciers. This ambitious 
documentary/drama/animation set in the devastated world of the future, 
asks the question: "Why didn't we stop climate change when we still had 
the chance?"
================================

Gerry



From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Oct 20 13:08:37 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:08:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cellulose Reinforcement of Arctic Ice Proposed
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W167F145B39F2C9079ECB6F9EC00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W167F145B39F2C9079ECB6F9EC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4ADE18C5.3070702@charter.net>

Brian Good wrote:
>
> http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/10/global-warming-cannon-saves-world.html
>
> Pycrete is sawdust-fortified ice developed during WWII by Geoffrey 
> Pyke, who proposed to build aircraft carriers out of it.  It's 5X more 
> resistant to melting than natural ice is. 
>
> Ice reinforced with strips of newspaper is almost 60 times more 
> resistant to melting than natural ice is.
>
Brian,

There are a hundred scatterd geo-engineering ideas floating around.  
Most of them come from someone who heard Spock talk about terra-forming 
a dead planet.

Many of them are simplistic solutions to parts of the problem and have 
significant risks that far exceed their benefits if any benefits accrue 
at all.  It is like Bill Gates suggesting that we tow icebergs into the 
paths of developing hurricanes, cooling the oceans at just that point 
and reducing the risks of disaster.  Declared to be not very feasible if 
for no other reason that it is hard to find an iceberg that is close 
enough to where you need it that you can get it there when you need it. 
Just because Gates understood the PC market does not mean that he 
understands science.

It is good that people think up these ideas and bring them forward.  It 
is not very good to get too excited about them because the explanation 
sounds good on the surface.  

In fact, I am increasingly convinced that the subtitle of Mooney - 
Kirshenbaum's book is so apt:  "Unscientific America: *How Scientific 
Illiteracy Threatens Our Future*. "

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Oct 20 13:16:56 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:16:56 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Film Screening- FRESH
In-Reply-To: <E1N0IPa-0002W1-Ow@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Tue Oct 20 10:37:39 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:37:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change
Message-ID: <796500.79867.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have just ordered a series of 36 lectures on climate change from the Teaching Company. I would like to share them. I've decided to run three of the half hour lectures in one sitting, interspersed with discussion and food, one night per week for twelve weeks. Gerry has kindly offered to chip in and would like to do it on? Tuesdays, as a first choice. Tuesdays are good for me. too. If this sounds interesting to you, let me know. If a different day is better for you, let me know. I think this subject is too important to have only superficial knowledge of, and Teaching Company lectures are not painful (no tests). I'd love to cram my living room with curious people. When I receive the DVD's, I will post a list of lecture subjects and (maybe) dates. If some topics interest you more than others, you would be welcome to come to one, or a few, lectures, and you would not need to be there for the total time. I'm not charging anything, but if anyone felt like
 bringing food or making a donation to the Green Party, that would be nice.
Caroline
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 20 20:58:36 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:58:36 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change Vigil
Message-ID: <4ADE86EC.2030107@earthlink.net>


Two others have indicated an interest in a vigil
(holding signs) for 350.org.  So we will have a
vigil at El Camino and Embarcadero from 3-5 PM.

And I added an action to 350.org, "Vigil ..".
You can find it be specifying "United States"
and "Palo Alto" (action-list method).

I don't know if it can be found using the map
method.  Both computers here either can not
handle it or are too slow, (or maybe user error?
Nah).  So I would appreciate it if someone could
check to see if it can by found via the map
method, and let us know if it works.

Gerry

P.S. The 350.org website says there are over
4,000 actions in 170 countries.




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 20 23:31:34 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:31:34 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change Vigil
References: <4ADE86EC.2030107@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4ADEAAC6.50106@earthlink.net>


The date of the vigil is Sat. Oct. 24th.

Gerry


Gerry Gras wrote:

> Two others have indicated an interest in a vigil
> (holding signs) for 350.org.  So we will have a
> vigil at El Camino and Embarcadero from 3-5 PM.
> 
> And I added an action to 350.org, "Vigil ..".
> You can find it be specifying "United States"
> and "Palo Alto" (action-list method).
> 
> I don't know if it can be found using the map
> method.  Both computers here either can not
> handle it or are too slow, (or maybe user error?
> Nah).  So I would appreciate it if someone could
> check to see if it can by found via the map
> method, and let us know if it works.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> P.S. The 350.org website says there are over
> 4,000 actions in 170 countries.
> 




From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Oct 20 23:57:48 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:57:48 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change Vigil
In-Reply-To: <4ADEAAC6.50106@earthlink.net>
References: <4ADE86EC.2030107@earthlink.net> <4ADEAAC6.50106@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4ADEB0EC.9020106@aceweb.com>

I plan to be there. Hope I'm over this flu that's bugging me now...

Tian

Gerry Gras wrote:
> The date of the vigil is Sat. Oct. 24th.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
> Gerry Gras wrote:
> 
>> Two others have indicated an interest in a vigil
>> (holding signs) for 350.org.  So we will have a
>> vigil at El Camino and Embarcadero from 3-5 PM.
>>
>> And I added an action to 350.org, "Vigil ..".
>> You can find it be specifying "United States"
>> and "Palo Alto" (action-list method).
>>
>> I don't know if it can be found using the map
>> method.  Both computers here either can not
>> handle it or are too slow, (or maybe user error?
>> Nah).  So I would appreciate it if someone could
>> check to see if it can by found via the map
>> method, and let us know if it works.
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> P.S. The 350.org website says there are over
>> 4,000 actions in 170 countries.
>>

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Lastest change: Added pictures I took at San Jose BIKE PARTY on Friday.


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 21 11:38:27 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change Vigil
References: <4ADE86EC.2030107@earthlink.net> <4ADEAAC6.50106@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4ADF5523.4010701@earthlink.net>


Apparently this is difficult to find using the map.
And it is not trivial using the action list approach.

Here is the web page with the vigil info:

     http://www.350.org/node/10286

Gerry


Gerry Gras wrote:

> The date of the vigil is Sat. Oct. 24th.
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
> Gerry Gras wrote:
> 
> 
>>Two others have indicated an interest in a vigil
>>(holding signs) for 350.org.  So we will have a
>>vigil at El Camino and Embarcadero from 3-5 PM.
>>
>>And I added an action to 350.org, "Vigil ..".
>>You can find it be specifying "United States"
>>and "Palo Alto" (action-list method).
>>
>>I don't know if it can be found using the map
>>method.  Both computers here either can not
>>handle it or are too slow, (or maybe user error?
>>Nah).  So I would appreciate it if someone could
>>check to see if it can by found via the map
>>method, and let us know if it works.
>>
>>Gerry
>>
>>P.S. The 350.org website says there are over
>>4,000 actions in 170 countries.
>>
>>
> 
> 
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From jims at greens.org  Thu Oct 22 17:45:48 2009
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:45:48 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA Official Notice] State Meeting
	Summary Report]
Message-ID: <4AE0FCBC.6060105@greens.org>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [GPCA Official Notice] State Meeting Summary Report
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:54:13 -0700
From: County Contacts <contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org>
Reply-To: contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org
To: County Contacts <Contacts2006 at cagreens.org>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List.  For more information, or 
questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. 
Follow the contact directions
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

              GREEN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA
           GENERAL ASSEMBLY SUMMARY REPORT

                  October 15, 2009


This report summarizes the decisions made at the October 10-11 General
Assembly in Cotati. Full meeting minutes will be issued in a few weeks and
posted on the ?plenary? web site:  http://cagreens.org/plenary/.



                 PROPOSALS AND PRESENTATIONS

+  Approve Past General Assembly Minutes

Dana Point minutes (May 09): Approved by consensus with one stand-aside concern.
Venice, LA minutes (Aug 08): Approved by consensus with one stand-aside concern.


+  Voting Threshold Change

Subject: Change the STV voting threshold in bylaws 7-1.8 to be a variable
value when the number of candidates is less than the number of open seats.

Approved by consensus with one stand-aside concern.


+  Constitutional Convention

Subject: Authorize County Polling to take position on Constitutional
Convention Ballot Measures for November 2010 ballot.

Approved by consensus.

Mike Feinstein later gave a report on ballot measures anticipated to create
the convention, and on the two types of conventions being debated: Citizens
assembly or political appointments.



+  GPUS Delegation Report

Sanda Everett described the work of the Delegation.

Barry Hermanson reported on his experience at the annual National Meeting in
Durham North Carolina at Central North Carolina State Univ. (first state run
black college). He emphasized a strategy session conducted with the entire group.

Mike Feinstein introduced the idea of GPCA hosting the 2012 National
Convention and asked that it be put on the agenda for next General Assembly.


+  Election of GPUS Delegates

Elections were held for four candidates for delegate and four for alternate
delegate seats.
Three delegates and four alternates were elected.


+  Platform Planks

Water plank ? Approved by consensus
Criminal Justice plank ? Approved by consensus
Electoral Reform plank ? Withdrawn


+  Bylaws, Article 2: Purpose

Subject:  Define a 'purpose' statement for Article 2 of the GPCA bylaws to
serve as the internal definition for guiding the goals and activities of the
party, it's bylaws and it's affiliated locals.

Approved by consensus after several changes offered from participants.


+  CC Elections and Committee Restructuring

Subject: Trial period to evaluate a new CC election method.

An addendum was circulated to delegates with changes to the proposal and a
summary of key items to be approved.
The plan was approved by consensus after extended discussions.


+  Scheduling Next State Meeting

A host for the next General Assembly was not decided. Four people offered to
pursue the issue with their county. A timeframe of Feb/Mar 2010 is needed.




            WORKING GROUP AND STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS

+  Electoral Reform Working Group - Jane Rands

Need volunteers for the Coordinating Committee.
Electoral Reform Group will meet 10/18/09 at 7:30 PM.

Goals:
?  Focus on June ballot items: California Clean Money Campaign, Open Primary
Initiative.
?  Focusing on education: Single Transfer Voting. Want to be able to clearly
explain how it works.


+  Campaign and Candidates Working Group - Warner Bloomberg (substituting for
Kendra Gonzales, Ventura Co.)

Looking for a second coordinator for the working group.

Goals:
?  Determine what Green candidates are running for offices, and recruit
candidates for statewide 2010 elections.
?  Discuss how to poll counties on state initiatives. Create a web page that
tallies and displays votes as they are collected.
?  Come up with recommendations for funding candidates. Pass on
recommendations to the Campaign Funding Support Committee.


+  Bylaws, GROW, Clearinghouse - Michael Borenstein, El Dorado Co.

Too many vacant seats on the Bylaws Committee. Need to recruit more members.

Developing a new Strategy for GROW:
?  Focus on creating a better web presence.
?  Create liaisons with County Councils. Mail a letter to each County Council
requesting a liaison. Plan to provide help for people running for County Councils.
?  Deploy a group to gather signatures for candidates so they can avoid
registration fees.

Have monthly phone conference meetings. Will have a committee meeting in
February/March.


+  Finance Committee - Gloria Purcell (substituting)

Discussed terms of committee members and fundraising issues. Two people would
like to join the committee: Bill Meyers (Mendocino County) and Will Yeager
(Venice County). Michael Borenstein will present these candidates at the
November Finance Committee meeting.


+  Green Issues Working Group - Will Yeager, Hally DeCarion, Clark Casler

Focus on:
?  Website development - Bert Heuer,
?  Water issues - Wes Rolley, Santa Clara Co.
?  Organic gardening and biking - Will Yeager
?  Generating interest among Spanish-speaking people. Provide written content
in Spanish, and attend events in Spanish-speaking communities.

New Co-co's affirmed at the General Assembly by consensus:
Bert Heuer - Co-Coordinator; Halley DeCarion (Sonoma), Clark Castle (Orange),
and Dorothy Kemeny (Los Angeles) - Alternate Coordinators
Statement by Attendee (No WG represented) - Peter Alexander
Green Party needs to work with the California migrant community and farmers.
Create agriculture cooperatives to put people to work.




NOTE:  Photos taken by Tim Morgan at the Saturday night bonfire can be viewed
at http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackcloudbrew/sets/72157622574856044/





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From andid at cagreens.org  Thu Oct 22 20:21:57 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:21:57 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change Movie
In-Reply-To: <4ADE0302.4030503@earthlink.net>
References: <4ADE0302.4030503@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <13B9DFC0-CA34-4ACD-AD28-56A2E831ACEC@cagreens.org>

I'm really glad I went to see The Reckoning on Wednesday night.  I  
now have a new hero:  Go get 'em,  Ocampo!
I also plan to be there Friday night and Saturday night.  Two good  
movies!  Nice venues, too.
Thanks for the heads-up notice from the two HC members.
Andrea

On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
> The United Nations Association is having a film festival
> right now.  Most of it is at Stanford.
>
> The mission statement:
>      http://www.unaff.org/2009/
>
> The schedule:
>      http://www.unaff.org/2009/schedule.html
>
> The climate change movie, Sat. 10/24 9:15PM:
>      "Age of Stupid"
>      http://www.unaff.org/2009/f_age.html
>
> ===============================
> [from the web page]
>
> It's the year 2055 and runaway climate change has ravaged the planet.
> Pete is the founder of The Global Archive, a storage facility  
> located in
> the (now melted) Arctic, preserving all of humanity's achievements in
> the hope that the planet might one day be habitable again. Or that
> intelligent life may arrive and make use of all that we've  
> achieved. He
> pulls together clips of "archive" news and documentary from  
> 1950-2008 to
> build a message showing what went wrong and why. The film uses real
> documentary footage to move between six main stories that range from
> Hurricane Katrina to melting Alpine glaciers. This ambitious
> documentary/drama/animation set in the devastated world of the future,
> asks the question: "Why didn't we stop climate change when we still  
> had
> the chance?"
> ================================
>
> Gerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 23 11:21:15 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:21:15 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Talk Column on Climate Change
Message-ID: <4AE1F41B.8020008@charter.net>

The following is my latest submission as the Green Talk 
<http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/default.asp?s=4293> Column in 
the Morgan Hill Times (publication date 10/27/09). Tomorrow is an 
international day of action for climate change. This post explains why I 
think we are losing the battle for the minds of America.

Click on Read more! for the entire OpEd.


      Green Talk on Climate Change

Two events this week prompted me to return to the subject of climate 
change. The first that I became aware of is the fact that the heads of 
18 leading scientific organizations sent a letter to each of the United 
States Senators urging them to take significant action regarding climate 
change. While the entire letter can be read on-line from the American 
Association for the Advancement of Science, it is worth quoting from 
that letter 
<http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/media/1021climate_letter.pdf>.

    ?Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change
    is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the
    greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver.
    These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of
    evidence, and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective
    assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science.?


The make it very clear that there is no doubt about what is currently 
happening and the conclusions regarding what will happen are unavoidable.

Almost concurrently, the Pew Center for Research released the results of 
a survey <http://people-press.org/report/556/global-warming> that show a 
declining percentage of the public who believe that climate change is 
happening, or that it is in any way connected to human activity. They 
summarize it as follows:

    ?The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the
    People & the Press, conducted Sept. 30-Oct. 4 among 1,500 adults
    reached on cell phones and landlines, finds that 57% think there is
    solid evidence that the average temperature on earth has been
    getting warmer over the past few decades. In April 2008, 71% said
    there was solid evidence of rising global temperatures.

    Over the same period, there has been a comparable decline in the
    proportion of Americans who say global temperatures are rising as a
    result of human activity, such as burning fossil fuels. Just 36% say
    that currently, down from 47% last year.?


You begin to wonder what factors are at play when the scientific opinion 
is becoming increasingly certain and the public opinion is becoming less 
so. Conjecture on this question is now a popular blogging topic. Many 
rationales are given and most of them are too simplistic to be the whole 
story.

To begin with, these are times when our current economic problems have 
people fearful of their own future. Those who stand to gain by not doing 
anything about climate change were quick to play on these fears, making 
the connection between regulation of industry to prevent climate 
catastrophe and the loss of the very jobs that people are fearful of 
losing to begin with.

It was most clearly stated an OpEd 
<http://thehill.com/opinion/op-ed/63983-no-harm-from-cap-and-trade-you-lie> 
by Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy, a large coal mining company.

    ?Many times I?ve sat in meetings with executives who admit privately
    they doubt the certainty of the science behind global warming
    claims. And they acknowledge that global warming legislation will
    have a devastating effect on their companies in the form of lost
    jobs and lower output.?

It is very clear that one of the companies most affected would be 
Blankenship's. The OpEd was published in The Hill where every Washington 
insider would be sure to see it.

Those journalists whom one hopes would lead us to a version of the truth 
have put on ideological blinders and proceeded to publish erroneous 
information again and again. Writers like George Will will misquote 
sources and cherry-pick data to justify their false conclusions that 
nothing really bad is happening. In Will's case, it is especially 
troubling in that he steadfastly refuses to acknowledge his errors to 
the point where other Washington Post writers have had to apologize for him.

Professional rabble-rousers like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have a 
great reach into the minds of those who will not look at the data for 
themselves. When NY Times, reporter Andrew Revkin suggested that there 
was a link between population and energy use... and therefore climate 
change, Limbaugh suggested that Revkin solve the problem by killing 
himself. Beck makes light of the issue, equating the weather today with 
the functioning of climate over decades and playing to his audience with 
statements like ?The earth and the environment are the progressive 
replacement for God...? Would we be the people about whom it was said 
?In as much as Ye Have Done It unto One of the Least of These..."

We are all in this together. That is why I talk of ecology rather than 
the environment. We have learned to apply systems thinking to the 
management of our businesses. Why have we not taken the next step to 
apply similar systems thinking to the way we live; not alone but in 
communities; not just communities of people but communities of other 
living things.

I don't know how many of you have visited the magnificent groves of 
sequoias that we have. Their fate, locked as they are into 
micro-climates along the Sierras, is in our hands. I don't know how many 
are still around who fought in Vietnam, but that country's fate is also 
in our hands as the most productive agricultural regions, the Mekong 
Delta will be inundated and tens of millions of people will need to find 
new homes. I don't know how many of you follow the California water 
crisis. But here again, for all the special sessions of our legislature, 
they have not even begun to deal with the fact that those famous pumps 
will eventually be pumping salt water.

Do we care so little about this world that we would would risk it all on 
the words of Don Blankenship, Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh?

Labels: Andrew Revkin 
<http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/Andrew%20Revkin>, Climate 
Change <http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/Climate%20Change>, 
Don Blankenship 
<http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/Don%20Blankenship>, George 
Will <http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/George%20Will>, Glen 
Beck <http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/Glen%20Beck>, Massey 
Energy <http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/Massey%20Energy>, 
Pew Center for Research 
<http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/Pew%20Center%20for%20Research>, 
Rush Limbaugh <http://cagreening.blogspot.com/search/label/Rush%20Limbaugh>

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Oct 23 12:24:05 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:24:05 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] San Francisco get visited by Obama,
	Bike Party in San Jose!
Message-ID: <4AE202D5.60106@aceweb.com>

Last Tursday Obama visited San Francisco for a big fundraiser.
As usual when the President visits, lots of people showed up
with signs they were hoping he would read. I caught a lot of them
in pixels:

http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/ObamaVisit/Oct15th09.html

Then last Friday San Jose Bike Party took to the streets, this time
celebrating Dia de las Muertos. This was something I would call pure
fun, a real celebration with bicycles:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/BikeParty/Oct09/index.shtml
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Lastest change: Added pictures I took when Barak Obama came to SF.


From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 23 12:59:55 2009
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:59:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss]  Cellulose Reinforcement of Arctic Ice Proposed
In-Reply-To: <4ADE18C5.3070702@charter.net>
References: <BAY140-W167F145B39F2C9079ECB6F9EC00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY140-W116BF7221E5512EB0B33CF9EBD0@phx.gbl>











   Wes,   summary rejection of promising ideas is unscientific.  The Mythbusters
TV show tested  ice v. sawdust Pykrete v. newspaper Pykrete, finding the last to 
be the most melt-resistant.  (Episode 116, April 15, 2009)
   
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode-116-alaska-special-2
  A Wikipedia writeup of the program claims the test was of model ice boats' 
"failure due to melting", but provides no details of the nature of the failure orif any imposed  stresses were involved.  I can't verify Wikipedia's claims thatice failed in one minute, Pykrete failed in five minutes, and the newspaperPykrete "maintained its integrity for almost 60 minutes."  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete

  Certainly unforeseen drawbacks of the idea might exist but it   seems 
worth of  study and experimentation (and respect) to me.   That someSpock-induced fantasies are floating around in no way proves that all 
proposals are Spock-induced fantasies.

    




> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:08:37 -0700
> From: wrolley at charter.net
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cellulose Reinforcement of Arctic Ice Proposed
> 
> Brian Good wrote:
> >
> > http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/10/global-warming-cannon-saves-world.html
> >
> > Pycrete is sawdust-fortified ice developed during WWII by Geoffrey 
> > Pyke, who proposed to build aircraft carriers out of it.  It's 5X more 
> > resistant to melting than natural ice is. 
> >
> > Ice reinforced with strips of newspaper is almost 60 times more 
> > resistant to melting than natural ice is.
> >
> Brian,
> 
> There are a hundred scatterd geo-engineering ideas floating around.  
> Most of them come from someone who heard Spock talk about terra-forming 
> a dead planet.
> 
> Many of them are simplistic solutions to parts of the problem and have 
> significant risks that far exceed their benefits if any benefits accrue 
> at all.  It is like Bill Gates suggesting that we tow icebergs into the 
> paths of developing hurricanes, cooling the oceans at just that point 
> and reducing the risks of disaster.  Declared to be not very feasible if 
> for no other reason that it is hard to find an iceberg that is close 
> enough to where you need it that you can get it there when you need it. 
> Just because Gates understood the PC market does not mean that he 
> understands science.
> 
> It is good that people think up these ideas and bring them forward.  It 
> is not very good to get too excited about them because the explanation 
> sounds good on the surface.  
> 
> In fact, I am increasingly convinced that the subtitle of Mooney - 
> Kirshenbaum's book is so apt:  "Unscientific America: *How Scientific 
> Illiteracy Threatens Our Future*. "
> 
> -- 
> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
> 
> Wes Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 23 13:41:45 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:41:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 350.org Day of Action has begun
Message-ID: <4AE21509.2020400@earthlink.net>


The 350.org website has made the transition to the
day of action.  (It is now Saturday east of Turkey
and west of the date line.)

Among other things they have started a slide show,
to show the photos as they come in.

Gerry



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 23 15:02:45 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:02:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 2 vets on cycling tour
Message-ID: <4AE22805.2040805@sbcglobal.net>


On Saturday November 7, Veterans for Peace chapter 101 will host
Josh Steiber and John Curran two Iraq war veterans traveling across the
country on foot and on bicycle, talking about their experiences in the 
military
and Iraq while promoting peaceful problem solving.

Saturday November 7, 2009
San Jose Peace and Justice Center
48 South Seventh Street
San Jose, California 95112

6 to 9pm

The event will feature a variety of soups provided by Veterans for Peace 
members and any other fare participants would care to add. (not required)

We will begin serving the food at 6pm followed by a presentation by
Josh and John at 7. I expect the evening to wrap up before 9pm so they 
can get a good night sleep before they head to San Francisco on Sunday.

See their web page for details of their trip:
http://contagiousloveexperiment.wordpress.com/about/ 
<http://contagiousloveexperiment.wordpress.com/about/>




From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Oct 23 16:36:28 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:36:28 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My sister forwarded this one to me....
Message-ID: <4AE23DFC.2070900@aceweb.com>

State launches boycott of 'unconstitutional' federal laws
Urges 49 others to join in combating government's 'abuse of authority'

Posted: October 21, 2009
11:50 pm Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling
? 2009 WorldNetDaily

Tennessee is urging 49 other states to come together and create a "joint 
working group between the states" to combat unconstitutional federal 
legislation and assert state rights.

Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen signed HJR 108, the State Sovereignty 
Resolution on June 23. According to the Tenth Amendment Center, the 
resolution created a committee to form a joint working group between the 
states to enumerate the abuses of authority by the federal government 
and seek repeal of imposed mandates.

State Rep. Susan Lynn recently wrote a letter to the other 49 state 
legislatures, inviting them to join the group and warning that the role 
of the federal government has been "blurred, bent and breached."

"The national government has become a complex system of programs whose 
purposes lie outside of the responsibilities of the enumerated powers 
and of securing our natural rights; programs that benefit some while 
others must pay," Lynn wrote. "Today, the federal government seeks to 
control the salaries of those employed by private business, to change 
the provisions of private of contracts, to nationalize banks, insurers 
and auto manufacturers, and to dictate to every person in the land what 
his or her medical choices will be."

She continued, "Forcing property from employers to provide healthcare, 
legislating what individuals are and are not entitled to, and using the 
labor of some so that others can receive money that they did not earn 
goes far beyond securing natural rights, and the enumerated powers in 
the Constitution."

Lynn said that the people created the federal government to be their 
agent only for certain enumerated purposes.

"The Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being 
that which has been delegated by the people to the federal government, 
and also that which is absolutely necessary to advancing those powers 
specifically enumerated in the Constitution of the United States," she 
wrote. "The rest is to be handled by the state governments, or locally, 
by the people themselves."

She noted that the Constitution does not include a congressional power 
to override state laws, nor does it give the judicial branch unlimited 
jurisdiction over all matters. Attempts to include such provisions in 
the Constitution were rejected by the Founding Fathers.

"With this in mind," she wrote, "any federal attempt to legislate beyond 
the Constitutional limits of Congress' authority is a usurpation of 
state sovereignty ? and unconstitutional. Governments and political 
leaders are best held accountable to the will of the people when 
government is local. The people of a state know what is best for them; 
authorities, potentially thousands of miles away, governing their lives 
is opposed to the very notion of freedom."

In one example of Tennessee's battle against federal government 
policies, federal gun regulators wrote to gun dealers around Tennessee 
in July, dropping the hammer on a state law that exempts weapons made, 
sold and used inside the state from interstate regulations.

The letter was distributed to holders of Federal Firearms Licenses.

In it, Carson W. Carroll, the assistant director of the Bureau of 
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told dealers the Tennessee 
Firearms Freedom Act, adopted this year, "purports to exempt personal 
firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition manufactured in the 
state, and which remain in the state, from most federal firearms laws 
and regulations."

The exemption is not right, the federal agency letter contends.

More recently, the state of Montana filed a lawsuit against U.S. 
Attorney General Eric Holder seeking a court order that the federal 
government stay out of the way of Montana's management of its own firearms.

As WND reported, the action was filed by the Second Amendment Foundation 
and the Montana Shooting Sports Association in U.S. District Court in 
Missoula, Mont., to validate the principles and terms of the Montana 
Firearms Freedom Act, which took effect Oct. 3.

The law provides guns and ammo made, sold and used in Montana would not 
require any federal forms; silencers made and sold in Montana would be 
fully legal and not registered; and there would be no firearm 
registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or 
paperwork required.

The idea is spreading quickly. Similar plans have been introduced in 
many other states.

Montana's plan is called "An Act exempting from federal regulation under 
the Commerce Clause of the Constitution of the United States a firearm, 
a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured and retained in Montana."

The law cites the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that 
guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the 
federal government elsewhere in the Constitution and reserves to the 
state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at 
the time it was admitted to statehood in 1889.

"The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state 
and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the 
compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana 
and the United States in 1889," the law states.

The lead attorney for the plaintiffs' litigation team is Quentin Rhodes 
of the Missoula firm of Sullivan, Tabaracci & Rhoades, PC. The team 
includes other attorneys working in Montana, New York, Florida, Arizona 
and Washington.

"We're happy to join this lawsuit," said Alan Gottlieb, founder of the 
SAF, "because we believe this issue should be decided by the courts.

"We feel very strongly that the federal government has gone way too far 
in attempting to regulate a lot of activity that occurs only in-state," 
added MSSA President Gary Marbut. "The Montana Legislature and governor 
agreed with us by enacting the MFFA. We welcome the support of many 
other states that are stepping up to the plate with their own firearms 
freedom acts."





JB Williams
JBWilliams09 at gmail.com
www.JB-Williams.com

  Forwarded by:
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Lastest change: Added pictures I took when Barak Obama came to SF.


From andid at cagreens.org  Sat Oct 24 10:56:20 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:56:20 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 350.org Day of Action has begun
In-Reply-To: <4AE21509.2020400@earthlink.net>
References: <4AE21509.2020400@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <F5B55FD7-41D4-438B-A25D-0CA003FDB85D@cagreens.org>

The very first country to weigh in this AM, according to KPFA, was  
New Zealand (still nuclear free)!
Andrea

On Oct 23, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
> The 350.org website has made the transition to the
> day of action.  (It is now Saturday east of Turkey
> and west of the date line.)
>
> Among other things they have started a slide show,
> to show the photos as they come in.
>
> Gerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>



From fredd at freeshell.org  Sat Oct 24 11:08:38 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:08:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] My sister forwarded this one to me....
In-Reply-To: <4AE23DFC.2070900@aceweb.com>
References: <4AE23DFC.2070900@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4AE342A6.6000509@freeshell.org>

My understanding is that the U.S. Constitution gives the Federal 
Government the authority to intervene at the state level when the 
Constitution is violated and when individual rights are violated.  See 
The Bill of Rights.  Also, when the Fed. Gov. "bails out"  private 
business's, it should be able to intervene when the business's 
executives award excessive salaries and bonuses to themselves and their 
partners.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Fred



Tian Harter wrote:
> State launches boycott of 'unconstitutional' federal laws
> Urges 49 others to join in combating government's 'abuse of authority'
>
> Posted: October 21, 2009
> 11:50 pm Eastern
>
> By Chelsea Schilling
> ? 2009 WorldNetDaily
>
> Tennessee is urging 49 other states to come together and create a "joint 
> working group between the states" to combat unconstitutional federal 
> legislation and assert state rights.
>
> Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen signed HJR 108, the State Sovereignty 
> Resolution on June 23. According to the Tenth Amendment Center, the 
> resolution created a committee to form a joint working group between the 
> states to enumerate the abuses of authority by the federal government 
> and seek repeal of imposed mandates.
>
> State Rep. Susan Lynn recently wrote a letter to the other 49 state 
> legislatures, inviting them to join the group and warning that the role 
> of the federal government has been "blurred, bent and breached."
>
> "The national government has become a complex system of programs whose 
> purposes lie outside of the responsibilities of the enumerated powers 
> and of securing our natural rights; programs that benefit some while 
> others must pay," Lynn wrote. "Today, the federal government seeks to 
> control the salaries of those employed by private business, to change 
> the provisions of private of contracts, to nationalize banks, insurers 
> and auto manufacturers, and to dictate to every person in the land what 
> his or her medical choices will be."
>
> She continued, "Forcing property from employers to provide healthcare, 
> legislating what individuals are and are not entitled to, and using the 
> labor of some so that others can receive money that they did not earn 
> goes far beyond securing natural rights, and the enumerated powers in 
> the Constitution."
>
> Lynn said that the people created the federal government to be their 
> agent only for certain enumerated purposes.
>
> "The Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being 
> that which has been delegated by the people to the federal government, 
> and also that which is absolutely necessary to advancing those powers 
> specifically enumerated in the Constitution of the United States," she 
> wrote. "The rest is to be handled by the state governments, or locally, 
> by the people themselves."
>
> She noted that the Constitution does not include a congressional power 
> to override state laws, nor does it give the judicial branch unlimited 
> jurisdiction over all matters. Attempts to include such provisions in 
> the Constitution were rejected by the Founding Fathers.
>
> "With this in mind," she wrote, "any federal attempt to legislate beyond 
> the Constitutional limits of Congress' authority is a usurpation of 
> state sovereignty ? and unconstitutional. Governments and political 
> leaders are best held accountable to the will of the people when 
> government is local. The people of a state know what is best for them; 
> authorities, potentially thousands of miles away, governing their lives 
> is opposed to the very notion of freedom."
>
> In one example of Tennessee's battle against federal government 
> policies, federal gun regulators wrote to gun dealers around Tennessee 
> in July, dropping the hammer on a state law that exempts weapons made, 
> sold and used inside the state from interstate regulations.
>
> The letter was distributed to holders of Federal Firearms Licenses.
>
> In it, Carson W. Carroll, the assistant director of the Bureau of 
> Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told dealers the Tennessee 
> Firearms Freedom Act, adopted this year, "purports to exempt personal 
> firearms, firearms accessories, and ammunition manufactured in the 
> state, and which remain in the state, from most federal firearms laws 
> and regulations."
>
> The exemption is not right, the federal agency letter contends.
>
> More recently, the state of Montana filed a lawsuit against U.S. 
> Attorney General Eric Holder seeking a court order that the federal 
> government stay out of the way of Montana's management of its own firearms.
>
> As WND reported, the action was filed by the Second Amendment Foundation 
> and the Montana Shooting Sports Association in U.S. District Court in 
> Missoula, Mont., to validate the principles and terms of the Montana 
> Firearms Freedom Act, which took effect Oct. 3.
>
> The law provides guns and ammo made, sold and used in Montana would not 
> require any federal forms; silencers made and sold in Montana would be 
> fully legal and not registered; and there would be no firearm 
> registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or 
> paperwork required.
>
> The idea is spreading quickly. Similar plans have been introduced in 
> many other states.
>
> Montana's plan is called "An Act exempting from federal regulation under 
> the Commerce Clause of the Constitution of the United States a firearm, 
> a firearm accessory, or ammunition manufactured and retained in Montana."
>
> The law cites the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that 
> guarantees to the states and their people all powers not granted to the 
> federal government elsewhere in the Constitution and reserves to the 
> state and people of Montana certain powers as they were understood at 
> the time it was admitted to statehood in 1889.
>
> "The guaranty of those powers is a matter of contract between the state 
> and people of Montana and the United States as of the time that the 
> compact with the United States was agreed upon and adopted by Montana 
> and the United States in 1889," the law states.
>
> The lead attorney for the plaintiffs' litigation team is Quentin Rhodes 
> of the Missoula firm of Sullivan, Tabaracci & Rhoades, PC. The team 
> includes other attorneys working in Montana, New York, Florida, Arizona 
> and Washington.
>
> "We're happy to join this lawsuit," said Alan Gottlieb, founder of the 
> SAF, "because we believe this issue should be decided by the courts.
>
> "We feel very strongly that the federal government has gone way too far 
> in attempting to regulate a lot of activity that occurs only in-state," 
> added MSSA President Gary Marbut. "The Montana Legislature and governor 
> agreed with us by enacting the MFFA. We welcome the support of many 
> other states that are stepping up to the plate with their own firearms 
> freedom acts."
>
>
>
>
>
> JB Williams
> JBWilliams09 at gmail.com
> www.JB-Williams.com
>
>   Forwarded by:
>   




From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Oct 25 10:54:49 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:54:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change
Message-ID: <120322.74990.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Here is the list of lecture titles in the Earth at the Crossroads course.? I have watched one and found it a little dense. Three at a time might be a lot to chew on at once. It might make it more workable if those of you who plan to come would indicate which lectures seem most interesting to you. Also, for anyone who can't make Tuesdays, I am perfectly willing to have showings on another day or evening to accommodate you.
Caroline
Earth at the Crossroads: Understanding the Ecology of a Changing Planet

1. An Ecological Diagnosis of the Living Earth
2.Humanity and the Tragedy of the Commons
3. Ecology--Natural History ti Holistic Science
4. Ecology as a System--Presses and Pulses
5. Climate and Habitat--Twin Ecological Crises
6. Human Society as Ecological Driver
7.Movement of Energy Through Living Systems
8. Humans as Energy Consumers
9. Nutrient Cycling in Ecosystems
10. The Challenges of Waste and Disposal
11. The Water Cycle and Climate
12. Human Water Use and Climate Change
13. Rain and Heat--Forces That Shape Climate
14. The Ecology of Global Climate Change
15. How Living Organisms Acquire Food
16. The Ecological Consequences of Agriculture
17. Food, Energy Flows. Biomagnification
18. The Human Ecology of Biomagnification
19. The Ecological Community as a Living Mosaic
20. Wildlife Adaptation to Human Landscapes
21. Biodiversity, Disturbance, Invasive Species
22. Biodiversity Decline and Restoration Ecology
23. Microevolution and Biological Variation
24. Human Impacts on Ecological Space and Time
25. Population Growth and Its Natural Limits
26. The Human Shift to an Urban Lifestyle
27. The Ecology of Dispersal and Migration
28. Human Impacts on Animal Migration
29. Ecology and Economy of? SEX? and Reproduction ( noone under 17 admitted)
30. Cities and the Human Demographic Transition
31. Coevolution Among Species
32. The Coevolution of Human Diseases
33. Strategies for Reversing Ecosystem Decline
34. Designing Spaces for Wildlife
35. Toward Sustainable Urban Ecosystems
36. Recovering Ecosystems--Hope for the Future

Sound like intense fun? I hope you think so. Let me know
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From jims at greens.org  Sun Oct 25 15:45:38 2009
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:45:38 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Recruiting for Coordinating Committee
Message-ID: <4AE4D512.60407@greens.org>

Greens -

We are seeking qualified individuals who would like to work with the state
Coordinating Committee (CC) on behalf of our region. The CC is an
administrative and project management body that plans and coordinates the
activities of the party, and that executes decision made by the General
Assembly. The committee description from our bylaws is copied below, and job
descriptions for both the Regional Rep and At-Large Rep seats, written by CC
members, follows that.

The job entails mostly email and teleconferences. You must keep up with the
online proposals and their discussions, and attend the teleconferences to
discuss and vote on the issues. You are also encouraged to involve yourself
with the state party by volunteering to be a liaison between the CC and a
committee or working group. There are also problems and issues needing
resolution that are brought to the CC. You are expected to help with some of
these tasks.

The time commitment depends on how much you want to put into it. A nominal 2-3
hours a week is probably the base. If you enjoy lengthy email discussions,
your time will increase. If you find you enjoy working at the state level,
there's plenty of opportunities to put in more time.

At the state meeting in Sonoma earlier this month a proposal to restructure
the CC was adopted. This changed the structure of the CC from 20 seats (16
region + 4 at-large) to 26 seats (12 region + 14 at-large). We still have our
one regional seat, but now we have the opportunity to fill more at-large
seats. The purpose of this change is to encourage more people from the
counties to become involved in rejuvenating the state party.

Our regional seat needs to be filled by January 2010. My term as regional rep
expired last summer and I want to vacate that seat by the end of the year. We
also like to have an alternate regional rep to sit in whenever the rep is not
able to attend meetings. If you are interested in the regional seat please
inform your county council.

The at-large seats will be filled in an online election after the next General
Assembly. That GA is planned for a Feb/Mar timeframe. I'm assuming there will
be recruiting messages sent out for this. But anyone interested in applying
for an at-large seat can always send a biography and application to the CC
(gpca-cc at cagreens.org).

I do want to emphasize the importance of filling these seats. We are a
decentralized organization. This means that along with building strong locals,
we must also maintain a well-functioning state party. We must, therefore,
accept our share of responsibility for staffing these state party positions.

Feel free to write me or call if you have specific questions.

-- 
Jim Stauffer
408-432-9148
=================================================================



             FROM THE STATE BYLAWS:

Section 7-1. Coordinating Committee
7 1.1   Duties and Authority
The Coordinating Committee shall be generally responsible for coordinating
meetings, internal communications and other administrative tasks, including
the following:
a)      Establish agenda and select facilitators for general meetings.
b)      Monitor and assist committee work and refer matters to committees.
c)      Request and receive regular reports from committees.
d)      Authorize and ratify specific expenditures
e)      Authorize and carry out the decisions of the GPCA general membership
and make executive decisions (but not set policy) between General Assembly
meetings.
f)      May make statements in the name of the party
g)      Is authorized to retain legal council on behalf of the GPCA.
h)      Is authorized to make decisions which legal counsel advises.




           REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE
          Empirical Job Desrciption

The duties listed here were compiled from the experiences of past Regional
Representatives. Not every representative will have a need to perform every
task. But this shows the breadth of tasks a representative may encounter.

The duties of Green Party of California - Coordinating Committee (GPCA-CC)
Regional Representatives may include:

+  All activities to do with the facilitation and maintenance of active status
(GPCA bylaws Article 4), of the counties in the region.

+  All activities to do with maintaining a pro-active role as a voting member
of the GPCA-CC, not limited to and including GPCA bylaws Art.7 Sec.1.3.

Specific duties:

1.  Activate periodic regional meetings, and/or regional caucus at GPCA
General Assemblies.

2.  Solicit the organization of inactive counties, and provide pro-active
guidance and assistance to counties seeking active status.

3.  Provide pro-active guidance and assistance to counties whose county
organization is in need of support, restructuring or is malfunctioning.

4.  Attend all GPCA-CC meetings, teleconferences, voting sessions, and GPCA
General Assmeblies. Also to maintain participation in GPCA-CC tasks and
committee work. Appoint a standing alternate to attend/vote in case of an
unavoidable absence. It is preferable that the alternate is an ongoing
position (GPCA bylaws Art.7 Sec.1.5), and will assist in the regional reps.
duties.

5.  Be attentive to, and participate in if necessary, the GPCA-CC listserve at
a minimum of twice a week. Those participating without online capabilities
will require additional communication effort (shared computer, library
computer, telephone).

6.  Insure the flow of information between the GPCA and counties.

7.  Help maintain GPCA databases regarding both active and inactive counties,
e.g. county contacts, bylaws, county councils, etc.

8.  Inform the GPAC-CC co-coordinators when communication is interrupted, e.g.
computer failure, vacation, resignation, so that any adjustments necessary can
be made.

9.  Maintain a working knowledge of the GPCA bylaws and platform, and perform
Coordinating Committee duties accordingly.

10.  Encourage personal responsibility by actively recruiting and training GP
members who indicate interest in future regional rep or at-large GPCA-CC
positions.



                AT LARGE REPRESENTATIVE
               Empirical Job Description

The duties of the Green Party Of California - Coordinating Committee (GPCA-CC)
At-Large Representatives include:

All activities to do with maintaining a pro-active role as a voting member of
the GPCA-CC, not limited to and including GPCA bylaws Art.7 Sec.1.3.

Specific duties:

1.  At-large GPCA-CC positions supplement the tasks of the CC beyond those
required of regional representatives.  Those tasks of brief, intense or
sustained work periods, such as: agenda committee, database updates,
maintenance of rosters, ad-hoc committees, etc.  At-large rep. should be
prepared to assist CC/SC/WG co-coordinators as needed.

2.  At-large CC positions supplement regional rep. positions as needed. To
assist, or take a leading role of a regional representative as absences,
emergencies, and work-loads dictate.

3.  Provide pro-active guidance and assistance to ad-hoc committees, SCs and
WGs and locals whose organization is in need of support, restructuring or is
malfunctioning.

4.  Attend all GPCA-CC meetings, teleconferences, voting sessions, and GPCA
General Assemblies.  Inform co-cordinators of impending absences or scheduling
changes in a timely manner, so that any necessary adjustments may be made promptly

5.  Be attentive to, and participate if necessary, in the GPCA-CC listserve at
a minimum of twice a week. Those participating without online capabilities
will require additional communication effort (shared computer, library
computer, telephone).

6.  Inform the GPAC-CC co-coordinators when communication is interrupted, e.g.
computer failure, vacation, resignation, so that any necessary adjustments may
be made promptly.

7.  Maintain a working knowledge of the GPCA bylaws and platform, and perform
Coordinating Committee duties accordingly.

8.  Encourage personal responsibility, and cultivate truly interested greens,
by actively recruiting and training GP members who indicate interest in future
GPCA-CC regional rep or at-large rep, standing committee or working group
positions.



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 17:17:44 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:17:44 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Holiday Peace Fair Requirements-1
Message-ID: <4AE4EAA8.9030207@sbcglobal.net>

    The December 5-th Holiday Peace Fair needs help from members of 
organizations
    that are participating in the Holiday Peace Fair with

a)  a group member to attend the next planning meeting Saturday November 
14-th
b)  to help with publicity - in particular, but not limited to, to 
distribute flyers to
    group members who in turn will distribute the flyers to the general 
public
c)  to collect admission tickets ($2) for your group for your group 
members to sell
      in advance to your organization, friends, and beyond (libraries, 
bulletin boards, ...)
d) distribute flyers at the Campbell Farmers Market on Sunday morning, 
November 28
e)  *help on Saturday 12/5 at 8 AM with set-up of tables, posting of 
signs, etc.
*f)  clean up and put away after closing at 4 pm
g)  staffing the entrance table
h)  staffing the dessert table
i)  oversee volunteers who are working with children (one am, another pm)

*        Please contact Joan at jam at batnet.com // 408-396-8039 or
        Lois at loisjfiedler at sbcglobal.net // 408-294-0981  
        with names and contact info for your group's volunteers to help 
with these
        jobs that are needed to make the HPF work.
*






From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 25 17:19:41 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:19:41 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Holiday Peace Fair requirements-2
Message-ID: <4AE4EB1D.7090205@sbcglobal.net>

Green Party volunteers needed for
a)  tabling
b)  preparation of a dessert for the dessert table
c)  coordinator of tablers



From wrolley at charter.net  Sun Oct 25 20:38:42 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:38:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] Pam in fairfax] We have been
	challenged.
Message-ID: <4AE519C2.4050305@charter.net>

FYI. 

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[GPCA-CCWG] Pam in fairfax
Date: 	Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:41:42 -0700
From: 	civillib at comcast.net
To: 	Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens - GPCA CCWG <gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>, 
LAWRENCE BRAGMAN <lbragman at sbcglobal.net>, Pam Hartwell-Herrero 
<votepam at pamforfairfax.org>



The Greens in Sacramento just sent Pam in Fairfax $100...we challenge any and 
all other county councils to match. :)

Cres
_______________________________________________
gpca-ccwg mailing list
gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg



-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Oct 25 20:43:59 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:43:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] color printer
Message-ID: <152738.37076.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

We have been given a color printer by the good folks at the Peace and Justice Center. We need to get it up and running. We have some important events coming up, and we need need new literature on current topics. Andrea says we need a computer to hook it up to, but maybe we don't. Come on, you techies out there. We need your expertise. The printer is in Andrea;s garage in Sunnyvale, so please contact her and work out some time you can access the printer. :-)
Caroline
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From andid at cagreens.org  Mon Oct 26 11:41:50 2009
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:41:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] color printer
In-Reply-To: <152738.37076.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <152738.37076.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DAF57C36-AD62-4BCD-A191-2C660FC5E95C@cagreens.org>

Actually I didn't say that?I don't know enough to say that.  Brian  
may have as he helped us deliver it to Nightingale.
I'm getting ready to termite treat Nightingale, so if that is a  
problem for the printer, we may need to move it out of the garage and  
environs.   I'll be sure to give all a heads up when treatment is  
about to happen.
Andrea

On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:

> We have been given a color printer by the good folks at the Peace  
> and Justice Center. We need to get it up and running. We have some  
> important events coming up, and we need need new literature on  
> current topics. Andrea says we need a computer to hook it up to,  
> but maybe we don't. Come on, you techies out there. We need your  
> expertise. The printer is in Andrea;s garage in Sunnyvale, so  
> please contact her and work out some time you can access the  
> printer. :-)
> Caroline
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

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From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:33:52 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Fw: Contagious Love Experiment]
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 27 16:00:42 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:00:42 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] holiday peace fair
Message-ID: <4AE77B9A.9070607@sbcglobal.net>

I mailed in the check for a booth at the holiday peace fair and
let Joan Goddard, the primary organizer, know that I had sent the
check and posted a list of areas in which help was needed.

Here is her response, effectively a call for help.  Any volunteers?
List of tasks is at the bottom.

Thanks for the note, Jim!   Should we check back with you if there's no 
check received
by Lois Fiedler by the first week of November?   Will look forward to 
info about which
Greens can help when with the overall work of putting on the HPF.     Joan G

I had written
The Green Party will be participating once again in this years Holiday 
Peace Fair.
Notices have been posted to our email discussion list re the help that 
is needed
to make it work.

Take your pick from
a)  a group member to attend the next planning meeting Saturday November 
14-th
b)  to help with publicity - in particular, but not limited to, to 
distribute flyers to
   group members who in turn will distribute the flyers to the general 
public
c)  to collect admission tickets ($2) for your group for your group 
members to sell
     in advance to your organization, friends, and beyond (libraries, 
bulletin boards, ...)
d) distribute flyers at the Campbell Farmers Market on Sunday morning, 
November 28
e)  *help on Saturday 12/5 at 8 AM with set-up of tables, posting of 
signs, etc.
*f)  clean up and put away after closing at 4 pm
g)  staffing the entrance table
h)  staffing the dessert table
i)  oversee volunteers who are working with children (one am, another pm)

*        Please contact Joan at jam at batnet.com // 408-396-8039 or
       Lois at loisjfiedler at sbcglobal.net // 408-294-0981       
       with names and contact info for your group's volunteers to help 
with these
       jobs that are needed to make the HPF work.
*





From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue Oct 27 16:41:05 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:41:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Fw: Contagious Love Experiment]
In-Reply-To: <4AE631E0.6090809@charter.net>
References: <4AE631E0.6090809@charter.net>
Message-ID: <4AE78511.8050804@freeshell.org>

Veterans For Peace Chapter 101 will host Josh Stieber and John and John 
Conor Curran at the San Jose Peace Center on  Saturday,   November 7 , 
at 6:00 pm. 

Join the hospitality.  

Some of us will  serve  Pot Luck Soups.

Fred, on behalf of  VFP.


Wes Rolley wrote:
> Mentioned here before.  This is good.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Fw: Contagious Love Experiment
> Date: 	Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: 	Kalmran Alavi <calm_ron at yahoo.com>
> To: 	Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> *From:* James Walsh <jwprod1956 at clearwire.net>
> *To:* Organizer Newspaper <theorganizer at energy-net.org>; Peace and 
> Justice List <peaceandjusticesjc at lists.riseup.net>; PNN 
> <editor at pnn.com>; tccp list <tccplist at sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Mon, October 26, 2009 8:02:35 AM
> *Subject:* Contagious Love Experiment
>
> My Friends,
>
>  
>
> Please help spread the word. Forward to all who might be interested.
>
>  
>
> Jim Walsh
>
> 209-981-0544
>
>  
>
> **
>
> *Press 
> Release:                                                                                               
> Monday, October 26^th , 2009*
>
> *What: Speaking engagement sponsored by Peace and Justice Network of 
> San Joaquin County*
>
> *Who: The Contagious Love Experiment , Iraq Vets Speak Out *
>
> *with Josh Stieber and John Conor Curran*
>
> *Where: First Unitarian Universalist Church *
>
> *            2737 Pacific Ave. Stockton*
>
> *When: Friday, November 6^th , 2009 7:00 p.m.*
>
> *Admission free. Donations will be accepted.*
>
> */Two Young Veterans Walk and Bike Across Country with a Message of Peace
> /*
> Armed with only backpacks containing essentials and items to document 
> their journey, Josh Stieber and John Conor Curran are on the move.
>
> The Iraq War veterans are traveling across the country on foot and 
> bicycles, spreading a message of peace on what they call the 
> ?Contagious Love Experiment.?
>
> A soldier turned conscientious objector, Stieber, 21, decided that if 
> he believed war created more problems than it solved, that he would 
> journey to learn about, promote, and invest his "war-money" to 
> peaceful alternatives. Stieber says one of his inspirations is "a guy 
> who said 'give away your wealth to those in need and love everybody"
>
> This is a very different view of what religion means than when 
> Stieber, a Gaithersburg , Maryland native, with the backing of his 
> conservative church, enlisted in the army as an infantryman based on 
> his religious beliefs.
>
> ?My view of strength and duty was that I was right, everyone else had 
> it wrong and one way or another people needed to be forced into what I 
> believed-religion, democracy, etc. and that would make the world a 
> better place. Listening to other perspectives? says Stieber "was what 
> I considered to be weak".
>
> After a 14-month tour in Iraq , Stieber became a conscientious objector.
>
> ?When it got to the point to where our strategy seemed like we were 
> trying to out-intimidate the supposed terrorists, I realized that 
> forcing someone to agree with you at the point of a gun doesn't change 
> much, when that force is gone, nothing has changed. What does matter 
> is the internal condition which can be guided by love just as easily 
> as fear.? says Stieber.
>
> Stieber started the cross-country journey in Gaithersburg , Maryland 
> on May 28, 2009, and will be stopping in Stockton on Friday, November 
> 6^th for a speaking engagement at the First Unitarian Universalist 
> Church at 7:00 p.m. On his journey, Stieber is attending speaking 
> engagements and visiting a number of charities whose objectives he 
> admires and donating to them the money he was paid in Iraq . To date, 
> Stieber has walked from his home in Maryland to Boston to Cincinnati 
> before beginning on foot, visited seven charities, spoken at dozens of 
> venues and encountered the kindness of countless strangers for food, 
> shelter, and wisdom.
>
> ?When it is culturally encouraged to be the most recognized, own the 
> nicest stuff, and to beware of somebody possibly doing better than 
> you, it has been extremely refreshing to meet so many people who 
> consider others as important as themselves and have a strong faith in 
> common humanity? says Stieber.
>
> But the journey has not been without contention.
>
> "Some people say that this trip is just me working off my guilt or 
> something and that I simply don't understand how the world works. Most 
> people say it respectfully, but there has been some criticisms stated 
> harsher.? says Stieber.
>
> Traveling with Stieber is Conor Curran, a Perrysburg, Ohio resident 
> and former Marine. Also a veteran of the Iraq War, Curran, 25, served 
> two tours in Iraq before his 2008 discharge. Now a peace activist, 
> Curran felt compelled to join Stieber after learning about the project.
>
> ?In this new generation of warfare against an insurgency, time is our 
> enemy?s primary weapon,? says Curran. ?The only way to fight back 
> against a weapon like time is with peace, understanding, and an active 
> dialogue. If we continue to fight an insurgency with violence and the 
> U.S. military machine of force, our resources will be devastatingly 
> depleted, while having created a wake of enemies in the process.?
>
> Curran joined Stieber in Toledo , Ohio and is accompanying him on the 
> remainder of the journey. The men plan to reach San Francisco by the 
> beginning of November. For more details of their journey see their 
> blog at: www.contagiousloveexperiment.wordpress.com 
> <http://www.contagiousloveexperiment.wordpress.com/> .
>
> For more information on this event contact Jim Walsh (209) 981-0544, 
> send e-mail to jwprod1956 at clearwire.net 
> <mailto:jwprod1956 at clearwire.net> or go to the PJN website at 
> http://www.pjnsjc.or
>
>  
>
>
>
> -- 
> "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
>
> Wes Rolley
> 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>   



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 28 10:37:05 2009
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:37:05 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] native american renewable energy
Message-ID: <4AE88141.4020803@sbcglobal.net>


Did you know that *at least 10%* of the United States' energy comes from 
Native American lands?
Tune in to your local PBS station on Tuesday November 3rd (check your 
local listings for times)
to watch the film /Power Paths 
<http://action.fcnl.org/r/89460/65940/0>/. This documentary follows the 
efforts of American Indian tribes as
they explore ways to bring renewable energy projects into their 
communities.


From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Oct 28 11:45:45 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 11:45:45 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] native american renewable energy
In-Reply-To: <4AE88141.4020803@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4AE88141.4020803@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4AE89159.40804@charter.net>

Winona LaDuke is a major supporter.  The Plains tribal areas are as 
great for wind as the Arizona areas are for solar.



Jim Doyle wrote:
> Did you know that *at least 10%* of the United States' energy comes from 
> Native American lands?
> Tune in to your local PBS station on Tuesday November 3rd (check your 
> local listings for times)
> to watch the film /Power Paths 
> <http://action.fcnl.org/r/89460/65940/0>/. This documentary follows the 
> efforts of American Indian tribes as
> they explore ways to bring renewable energy projects into their 
> communities.
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>   


-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From fredd at freeshell.org  Wed Oct 28 12:24:37 2009
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:24:37 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Fw: Contagious Love Experiment]
In-Reply-To: <916772.5654.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4AE631E0.6090809@charter.net> <4AE78511.8050804@freeshell.org>
	<916772.5654.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AE89A75.80800@freeshell.org>

 That's a great suggestion, Caroline!  Crackers and bread would be 
tasty, complementary items with the soups.

Fred

Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> Would you like to have people bring crackers or bread?
> Caroline
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* fred <fredd at freeshell.org>
> *To:* Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net>
> *Cc:* Green Discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:41:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Fw: Contagious Love Experiment]
>
> Veterans For Peace Chapter 101 will host Josh Stieber and John and John
> Conor Curran at the San Jose Peace Center on  Saturday,  November 7 ,
> at 6:00 pm.
>
> Join the hospitality. 
>
> Some of us will  serve  Pot Luck Soups.
>
> Fred, on behalf of  VFP.
>
>
> Wes Rolley wrote:
> > Mentioned here before.  This is good.
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject:     Fw: Contagious Love Experiment
> > Date:     Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT)
> > From:     Kalmran Alavi <calm_ron at yahoo.com <mailto:calm_ron at yahoo.com>>
> > To:     Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net <mailto:wrolley at charter.net>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded Message ----
> > *From:* James Walsh <jwprod1956 at clearwire.net 
> <mailto:jwprod1956 at clearwire.net>>
> > *To:* Organizer Newspaper <theorganizer at energy-net.org 
> <mailto:theorganizer at energy-net.org>>; Peace and
> > Justice List <peaceandjusticesjc at lists.riseup.net 
> <mailto:peaceandjusticesjc at lists.riseup.net>>; PNN
> > <editor at pnn.com <mailto:editor at pnn.com>>; tccp list 
> <tccplist at sbcglobal.net <mailto:tccplist at sbcglobal.net>>
> > *Sent:* Mon, October 26, 2009 8:02:35 AM
> > *Subject:* Contagious Love Experiment
> >
> > My Friends,
> >
> > 
> >
> > Please help spread the word. Forward to all who might be interested.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Jim Walsh
> >
> > 209-981-0544
> >
> > 
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Press
> > Release:                                                            
>                                  
> > Monday, October 26^th , 2009*
> >
> > *What: Speaking engagement sponsored by Peace and Justice Network of
> > San Joaquin County*
> >
> > *Who: The Contagious Love Experiment , Iraq Vets Speak Out *
> >
> > *with Josh Stieber and John Conor Curran*
> >
> > *Where: First Unitarian Universalist Church *
> >
> > *            2737 Pacific Ave. Stockton*
> >
> > *When: Friday, November 6^th , 2009 7:00 p.m.*
> >
> > *Admission free. Donations will be accepted.*
> >
> > */Two Young Veterans Walk and Bike Across Country with a Message of 
> Peace
> > /*
> > Armed with only backpacks containing essentials and items to document
> > their journey, Josh Stieber and John Conor Curran are on the move.
> >
> > The Iraq War veterans are traveling across the country on foot and
> > bicycles, spreading a message of peace on what they call the
> > ?Contagious Love Experiment.?
> >
> > A soldier turned conscientious objector, Stieber, 21, decided that if
> > he believed war created more problems than it solved, that he would
> > journey to learn about, promote, and invest his "war-money" to
> > peaceful alternatives. Stieber says one of his inspirations is "a guy
> > who said 'give away your wealth to those in need and love everybody"
> >
> > This is a very different view of what religion means than when
> > Stieber, a Gaithersburg , Maryland native, with the backing of his
> > conservative church, enlisted in the army as an infantryman based on
> > his religious beliefs.
> >
> > ?My view of strength and duty was that I was right, everyone else had
> > it wrong and one way or another people needed to be forced into what I
> > believed-religion, democracy, etc. and that would make the world a
> > better place. Listening to other perspectives? says Stieber "was what
> > I considered to be weak".
> >
> > After a 14-month tour in Iraq , Stieber became a conscientious objector.
> >
> > ?When it got to the point to where our strategy seemed like we were
> > trying to out-intimidate the supposed terrorists, I realized that
> > forcing someone to agree with you at the point of a gun doesn't change
> > much, when that force is gone, nothing has changed. What does matter
> > is the internal condition which can be guided by love just as easily
> > as fear.? says Stieber.
> >
> > Stieber started the cross-country journey in Gaithersburg , Maryland
> > on May 28, 2009, and will be stopping in Stockton on Friday, November
> > 6^th for a speaking engagement at the First Unitarian Universalist
> > Church at 7:00 p.m. On his journey, Stieber is attending speaking
> > engagements and visiting a number of charities whose objectives he
> > admires and donating to them the money he was paid in Iraq . To date,
> > Stieber has walked from his home in Maryland to Boston to Cincinnati
> > before beginning on foot, visited seven charities, spoken at dozens of
> > venues and encountered the kindness of countless strangers for food,
> > shelter, and wisdom.
> >
> > ?When it is culturally encouraged to be the most recognized, own the
> > nicest stuff, and to beware of somebody possibly doing better than
> > you, it has been extremely refreshing to meet so many people who
> > consider others as important as themselves and have a strong faith in
> > common humanity? says Stieber.
> >
> > But the journey has not been without contention.
> >
> > "Some people say that this trip is just me working off my guilt or
> > something and that I simply don't understand how the world works. Most
> > people say it respectfully, but there has been some criticisms stated
> > harsher.? says Stieber.
> >
> > Traveling with Stieber is Conor Curran, a Perrysburg, Ohio resident
> > and former Marine. Also a veteran of the Iraq War, Curran, 25, served
> > two tours in Iraq before his 2008 discharge. Now a peace activist,
> > Curran felt compelled to join Stieber after learning about the project.
> >
> > ?In this new generation of warfare against an insurgency, time is our
> > enemy?s primary weapon,? says Curran. ?The only way to fight back
> > against a weapon like time is with peace, understanding, and an active
> > dialogue. If we continue to fight an insurgency with violence and the
> > U.S. military machine of force, our resources will be devastatingly
> > depleted, while having created a wake of enemies in the process.?
> >
> > Curran joined Stieber in Toledo , Ohio and is accompanying him on the
> > remainder of the journey. The men plan to reach San Francisco by the
> > beginning of November. For more details of their journey see their
> > blog at: www.contagiousloveexperiment.wordpress.com 
> <http://www.contagiousloveexperiment.wordpress.com/>
> > <http://www.contagiousloveexperiment.wordpress.com/> .
> >
> > For more information on this event contact Jim Walsh (209) 981-0544,
> > send e-mail to jwprod1956 at clearwire.net 
> <mailto:jwprod1956 at clearwire.net>
> > <mailto:jwprod1956 at clearwire.net <mailto:jwprod1956 at clearwire.net>> 
> or go to the PJN website at
> > http://www.pjnsjc.or
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you 
> don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente
> >
> > Wes Rolley
> > 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
> > http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024
> >
> >
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 29 11:12:53 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:12:53 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Single payer vote in Senate?!?
Message-ID: <4AE9DB25.5050407@earthlink.net>



According to Common Dreams, Bernie Sanders will
bring a single payer bill to the Senate floor.
Anyone know about this?  Does anyone know when he
will do that?

"Sanders to Push for Single-Payer Vote in Senate"
     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/10/29-9

Gerry

P.S. Does anyone know HOW he can do that, if he does
not have support from the leadership?





From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Oct 29 14:38:02 2009
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:38:02 +0000
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] recent goings on I took pictures at.
Message-ID: <4AEA0B3A.1070904@aceweb.com>

Last Saturday we participated in the 350.org day of awareness building:

http://tian.greens.org/PaloAlto/EmbarcaderoAndElCamino/Oct09/index.html

This event by itself wasn't much, but it was part of a world of others.

Then on Tuesday I attended the final party in the SFGP office:

http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/Green/Party/Oct09/index.html

In a few days the SFGP will be just an idea shared by the members,
like so many of the rest of us. I guess I'm feeling a bit blue about that.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org


From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 29 19:53:58 2009
From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:53:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Like private insurers, let's kill.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1253732407.20057.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <902395.58689.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

The House and Senate have proven that they are compromising the compromise. The Kucinich Amendment will NOT be in the new House bill for "health care reform". It is time to treat these bills the same way private insurers treat Americans. Kill them!
There is no shred of good left in these bills that are worth saving. Democrats will not lose Congress to Republicans in 2010, because the Republicans already control Congress.
This is Rep. Kucinich on The Ed Show this week:?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwFvhU4FKck
-edward


      
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Oct 30 07:07:23 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:07:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] climate change lectures
Message-ID: <731788.76181.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
I had hoped we could start watching the climate change lectures next Tuesday, but Tuesday doesn't work.Could any of you who plan to come please rank the following evenings according to their convenience for you and indicate whether 6:00, 6:30, or 7:00 would be better for a start time?
Caroline
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 30 08:53:55 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:53:55 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Coal, Climate and CO2
Message-ID: <4AEB0C13.2020900@charter.net>

Those who are aware of the important political connections between Coal, 
Climate and CO2, especially the capture and sequestration of CO2 on an 
industrial scale, should really check the work of Ken Ward Jr., a 
reporter / blogger with the Charleston, WV Gazette.  I was introduced to 
Ward by Frank Young and Jesse Johnson of the WV Mountain Party and, as 
you know, Jesse was a GP Presidential aspirant.

Today's blog post at Ward's Coal Tattoo blog is a great summary / place 
to start.  Even the quality of the comments indicates that this is a 
serious journalism.

http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/10/26/the-great-race-coal-vs-the-climate/

Note: Ward found and used a very evocative photo for this piece.  That, 
in itself, is enough to make clicking on the link above worth the time.

-- 
"Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente

Wes Rolley
17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037
http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024



From JGSHURT69 at aol.com  Thu Oct 29 17:26:17 2009
From: JGSHURT69 at aol.com (JGSHURT69 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:26:17 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Welcome..Malalai Joya in San Jose
Message-ID: <caf.52c8b23b.381b8ca9@aol.com>

_http://www.southbaymobilization.org/flyers/2009/09.1107.AWomanAmongWarlords
_flyer_2up.pdf_ 
(http://www.southbaymobilization.org/flyers/2009/09.1107.AWomanAmongWarlords_flyer_2up.pdf)  
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From JGSHURT69 at aol.com  Thu Oct 29 18:40:57 2009
From: JGSHURT69 at aol.com (JGSHURT69 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:40:57 EDT
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: US Addicted to Warlords
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From wrolley at charter.net  Sat Oct 31 09:23:50 2009
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:23:50 -0700
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Silicon Valley's Carl Guardino does Steinberg a
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Oct 31 09:47:12 2009
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Obama - Monsanto, Beachy and Siddiqui?
Message-ID: <234272.78378.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>





----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Food Democracy Now Team <info at fooddemocracynow.org>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 10:16:59 AM
Subject: Obama - Monsanto, Beachy and Siddiqui?


Dear Friends,
Speak up to stop Big Ag. 
President Obama has found himself with some strange bedfellows lately.
While on the campaign trail in Iowa, Barack Obama boasted, ?We?ll tell ConAgra that it?s not the Department of Agribusiness. We?re going to put the people?s interests ahead of the special interests.?1 Despite that promise, it seems that ConAgra?s friends at Monsanto and CropLife are still finding their way into the USDA.

Last month, President Obama nominated two ?Big Ag? power brokers--Roger Beachy and Islam Siddiqui--to key agency positions, putting agribusiness executives in charge of our country's agricultural research and trade policy. Please join us in telling the President that this isn't the change we voted for. We don't want Big Ag running the show any more. ?
Siddiqui's confirmation hearing is set for next week. Please help us reach our goal of 50,000 signatures to make a real impact.
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/65?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
Obama?s first agribusiness selection is Roger Beachy, to be head of the USDA?s newly created National Institute of Food and Agriculture (NIFA). Beachy is the founding president of the Donald Danforth Plant Science Center in St. Louis, MO. It may sound innocuous, but the Danforth Center is essentially the non-profit arm of GMO seed giant Monsanto; Monsanto?s CEO sits on its board, and the company provides considerable funding for the Center?s operations.2

As the head of the USDA?s new research arm, formerly known as the Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service (CREES), Beachy is responsible for deciding how U.S. research dollars will be spent in agriculture.3 Translation: more research on biotech, less research on how to scale sustainable and organic agriculture.

Unfortunately, Beachy has already started work at the USDA, but the next nominee?Islam Siddiqui?still must be confirmed by the U.S.Senate. Siddiqui, the Vice President of Science and Regulatory Affairs at CropLife America, was recently nominated to be the Chief Agricultural Negotiator at the Office of the US Trade Representative.4 Amazingly, when Michele Obama planted her ?organic? garden on the White House lawn, Siddiqui?s CropLife MidAmerica sent the First Lady a letter saying that it made them ?shudder?.5

During his career, Siddiqui spent over 3 years as a pesticide lobbyist, an Undersecretary at the USDA and a VP at CropLife. In defending Siddiqui, the White House has stated that he played a key role in helping establish the country?s first organic standards.6 What they neglect to mention, though, is that those original organic standards would have allowed irradiation, sewage sludge and GMOs to undermine organic integrity! The standards were so watered down that 230,000 people signed a petition for them to be changed, which they eventually were.7

Fortunately, the organic community stopped Siddiqui and his cronies then, and we need your help now to do it again. If Siddiqui?s nomination is allowed to go through, then agribusiness will continue to control the seeds, the science, and the distribution of global food and agriculture.

Please join Food Democracy Now! and a broad coalition of other groups,in calling on President Obama to keep his campaign promise of closing the revolving door between agribusiness and his administration. ?
Please click here to add your voice. ?
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/65?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
Thanks for standing with us and our coalition partners from across the country, including: The Pesticide Action Network (PAN), National Family Farm Coalition, Food & Water Watch, Farmworker's Association of Florida, Institute of Agriculture & Trade Policy, Greenpeace and the Center for Food Safety in calling for President Obama to live up to his promises to put people's interests ahead of special interests
Sustainably Yours,
Dave, Lisa and the Food Democracy Now! Team.
If you'd like to see Food Democracy Now!'s grassroots work continue, please consider donating. Your donation of $5 or more will help us continue our work. We appreciate your support! http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/25?akid=26.68892.bFCOSY&t=1&akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1 
Sources:
1. Obama slams corporate agriculture, two Illinois firms, The Chicago Tribune, November 10, 2007
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/58?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
2. Another Monsanto man in a key USDA post?, Grist, September 24, 2009
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/59?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
3. A New Direction on Research at the USDA? The Experts Weigh In, The Huffington Post, October 15, 2009
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/60?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
4. Obama?s attempt to tap an agrichemical-industry flack runs into trouble, Grist, October 10, 2009
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/61?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
5. Michelle?s green garden upsets pesticide makers, The First Post, April 23, 2009
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/62?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
6. Agriculture nomination steams greens, Politico, October 10, 2009
http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/63?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
7. USDA Enters Debate on Organic Label Law, The New York Times, February 23, 2003 http://fdn.actionkit.com/go/72?akid=35.64526.2pm-KH&t=1
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 31 13:03:29 2009
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:03:29 -0800
Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Path to a Peace Economy"
Message-ID: <4AEC9811.2020708@earthlink.net>


David Korten on improving the economy.

"Path to a Peace Economy"
     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/10/31

Gerry