From WB4D23 at aol.com Tue Sep 1 10:46:09 2009 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 13:46:09 EDT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Agenda Items for Tomoorow's GPSCC Meeting (Sept 2nd) Message-ID: Tabling opportunity at De Anza College October 22nd Initial request for volunteers and affirmations of delegates and alternates for Sonoma County Plenary October 10-11th Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 1 15:13:10 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:13:10 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] tentative agenda Message-ID: <4A9D9C76.7050905@sbcglobal.net> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tentative agenda 9-2-2009.doc Type: application/msword Size: 24576 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vdf at juno.com Tue Sep 1 16:49:26 2009 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:49:26 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Agenda item for Sept 2 GPSCC meeting Message-ID: <20090901.164926.7622.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> The Santa Clara Valley chapter of the ACLU and other grassroots organizations have formed the Santa Clara County Coalition for Alternatives to the Death Penalty (SCCCADP). The goals of the SCCCADP are to: 1) Stop use of the death penalty in Santa Clara County. 2) Prepare the voters of Santa Clara County to defeat any state initiative to expand or speed up the death penalty; and 3) Prepare the voters of Santa Clara County to support a state initiative to end the death penalty. I would like to propose that the GPSCC pass the resolution (attached) that the coalition is circulating to organizations. Resolutions will be presented to elected officials. I would also like to ask if the GPSCC is interested in being a member of the coalition. Membership in the coalition is open to any organization or individual who is: 1) Committed to the goal of the coalition; 2) Willing to follow the coalition guidelines (attached); and 3) Actively participating in the work of the coalition. Active participation means attending or sending a representative to at least two meetings within any five month period. Recent coalition meetings have been held about once per month, on Monday evenings (which Monday has varied depending on members' schedules), alternating between San Jose and Palo Alto. - Valerie Face ____________________________________________________________ Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYeHSs9IxqsOsgMx6wXoUTPIMG0fAQiBStK813uYur8aWVjyzwU/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrea Agenda for the Green Party?Santa Clara County General Meeting San Jose Peace Center September 2, 2009 6:30 PM - Choice of chatting at Center w/ BYOB (brown bag) or dinner at a local eatery (drinks from picnic available for $donation to GP) 7:30 - General Meeting begins; Introductions and brief announcements (5-10 min total) Volunteers for Facilitator, Timekeeper, Notetaker, Vibes Watcher (2 min) Volunteers, etc., needed for "Tapestry Arts", Labor Day Weekend, Sept 5, 6, 7. (Jim D; 5-7 min) Report from the County Council meeting on August 16th (Andrea: 5 min) Meetings for 2009: Sept 20th, October 19th, November 15th, dark in December. Tabling contacts culled from the notebooks will be electronically set up by Valerie to begin with; 1) Merriam and 2) Tian will be in charge of those electronic lists; Caroline will be in charge of the hardcopy files. Need to add new cty councilors (and 2 advisors) to [SClara-cc] chat list? Letter to Honda - consensus at picnic w/ 5/7 cty councilors present *Letter to Lofgren - email to 7 cty councilors, vote results: 3 responses, 3 ayes; incomplete vote) (see copies of email letters) **Carol would like her 9/11 Film Festival on Sept 9 & 10 included on our SCCGP website. Treasurer?s Report (Jim D: 5 min) Total receipts from Town Hall Picnic? Initial request for volunteers and affirmations of delegates and alternates for Sonoma County Plenary October 10-11th (Warner; 5 min) Endorsement of implementing IRV in San Jose (Jim S; 15 min) **Proposed inclusion of the 9/11 Film Festival on SCCGP website? recommended by consensus of Cty Council. (Carol/Caroline?; 2 min) Registrar of Voters & SCCGP's one FREE list of Green Party voters (Cameron/Drew?;10 min) Timing of request to ROV? Are we using Drupal? Who has password that works? Etc. "Volunteer Opportunities" - email sent by Jim (Jim D; 5 min) (see copy of email) Tabling events/volunteers? (Jim D; 10 min) Sept 4-5 Mtn View Art & Wine Festival (email from Wes)? Sept 19th 11-5 PM, Santa Teresa Fest Sept 26th 10:30 to noon, Willow Glen Founder?s Day Parade Oct 22nd, time?, Tabling at De Anza College Other? Health Care: Eschoo's Town Hall & Upcoming DC Vote (Caroline 5-7 min) Oct 9th, 11AM - 7 PM, SJ Peace Center Open House w/ movie; outreach to SJSU students: ongoing(Andrea/Tian/Carol; 5 min total) ?350? - Oct 24th, Global Action, examples, GP ideas Oct 18th Gen Mtg? (Andrea; 2 min) California Fair Elections Campaign; meeting at UU Church, Palo Alto (Fred D; 2-5 min) (see literature provided) New member interested in Green Party (Merriam; 2 min) Other? Next Meeting - Oct 7th Agenda by? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Wed Sep 2 15:33:02 2009 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:33:02 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Second request for Agenda item for Sept 2 GPSCC meeting Message-ID: <20090902.153302.13982.3@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> I originally sent this request to sosfbay-discuss yesterday at 4:53 PM, but I did not see it on the agenda that Andrea posted this morning. Could we add this to the agenda? The Santa Clara Valley chapter of the ACLU and other grassroots organizations have formed the Santa Clara County Coalition for Alternatives to the Death Penalty (SCCCADP). The goals of the SCCCADP are to: 1) Stop use of the death penalty in Santa Clara County. 2) Prepare the voters of Santa Clara County to defeat any state initiative to expand or speed up the death penalty; and 3) Prepare the voters of Santa Clara County to support a state initiative to end the death penalty. I would like to propose that the GPSCC pass the resolution (attached) that the coalition is circulating to organizations. Resolutions will be presented to elected officials. I would also like to ask if the GPSCC is interested in being a member of the coalition. Membership in the coalition is open to any organization or individual who is: 1) Committed to the goal of the coalition; 2) Willing to follow the coalition guidelines (attached); and 3) Actively participating in the work of the coalition. Active participation means attending or sending a representative to at least two meetings within any five month period. Recent coalition meetings have been held about once per month, on Monday evenings (which Monday has varied depending on members' schedules), alternating between San Jose and Palo Alto. - Valerie Face ____________________________________________________________ Easy-to-use, advanced features, flexible phone systems. Click here for more info. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQZan30yM660Flfew7k1eLyQt7VHR46twfjjpwQ01AP1C6WsgH0WU/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Santa Clara County Resolution - FINAL.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 26583 bytes Desc: Santa Clara County Resolution - FINAL.pdf URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Coalition Guidelines_FINAL.doc Type: application/msword Size: 32256 bytes Desc: Coalition Guidelines_FINAL.doc URL: From vdf at juno.com Wed Sep 2 18:57:49 2009 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 01:57:49 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Second request for Agenda item for Sept 2 GPSCC meeting Message-ID: <20090902.185749.13298.0@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Hi Caroline, I don't understand why this would be a County Council item instead of a general meeting item. In the past, the general membership meeting has endorsed other resolutions. However, I would be OK with saving it for the October general meeting given the lengthy agenda. Valerie Please note: message attached ____________________________________________________________ Medical Transcription Earn a Medical Transcription Degree Online or at a campus near you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=6_siWCylCDkAqKCGPcBFTgAAJ1BSv5BgKRMxjoB2-H05qqW1AAQAAAAFAAAAAJUyUj8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAE2VoAAAAAA== -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Caroline Yacoub Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Second request for Agenda item for Sept 2 GPSCC meeting Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Size: 8801 URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Sep 3 10:19:35 2009 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:19:35 -0400 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Comment on this "Stub" for a Campaign Web Site -- Oops! In-Reply-To: <8CBFACCF3A99F81-2C94-131C2@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBFACCF3A99F81-2C94-131C2@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CBFAD1D7F861E1-2C94-139A2@webmail-m040.sysops.aol.com> Sorry about that.? I tested my web site with Firefox.? Silly me!? Should always *assume* it's gonna be broken with Microsoft Internet Explorer. So, I tweaked it a little bit.? If any of you saw gobbledygoop using IE, please check it out again.? Remember, this is "Under Construction."? I'd appreciate any comments.? -----Original Message----- From: alexcathy at aol.com To: gplac-forum at cagreens.org; gpca-mediawg at lists.cagreens.org; sosfbay-discuss at greens.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 9:44 am Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] Please Comment on this "Stub" for a Campaign Web Site Dear Green Friends, I have started building a campaign web site.? It's just a "stub" and not for general browsing at this time.? I really would appreciate any comments you may have. URL: http://alexwalker4assembly.net/ _______________________________________________ GPCA-MediaWG mailing list GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Sep 3 12:01:45 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Comment on this "Stub" for a Campaign Web Site -- Oops! Message-ID: <890578.8416.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Alex, I checked out your website. It looks good, with the exception of the typo in the bottom line. What makes me a little uneasy is the negativity. "Unbossed" and "unbought"? are catchy, but they don't say who you are, what you're for,? other than you're not "them." ? I have been so frustrated with the Green Party lately. We have way too many things we are putting our energies into, and we are not taking what little advantage we have in the tenor of the times. PEOPLE ARE GOING GREEN!? We should be out in front!? Instead, we're building coalitions with folks who want to get rid of the death penalty, folks who want to change the electoral college, folks who want us to get out of the war, folks who want marriage equality, and folks who want many other good and worthwhile things. But none of these things is vital to the continuance of life as we know it. WE NEED TO SAVE THE PLANET FIRST, THEN WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT HOW TO GOVERN IT. ? Please be part of the solution--the only solution that matters now. If you're Green, BE GREEN! We will never take enough votes away from the republicrats by addressing their issues. We need an issue that concerns everybody.? And, by gosh, we have one.? Go for it. Caroline --- On Thu, 9/3/09, alexcathy at aol.com wrote: From: alexcathy at aol.com Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Comment on this "Stub" for a Campaign Web Site -- Oops! To: gplac-forum at cagreens.org, gpca-mediawg at lists.cagreens.org, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 10:19 AM Sorry about that.? I tested my web site with Firefox.? Silly me!? Should always *assume* it's gonna be broken with Microsoft Internet Explorer. So, I tweaked it a little bit.? If any of you saw gobbledygoop using IE, please check it out again.? Remember, this is "Under Construction."? I'd appreciate any comments.? -----Original Message----- From: alexcathy at aol.com To: gplac-forum at cagreens.org; gpca-mediawg at lists.cagreens.org; sosfbay-discuss at greens.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 9:44 am Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] Please Comment on this "Stub" for a Campaign Web Site Dear Green Friends, I have started building a campaign web site.? It's just a "stub" and not for general browsing at this time.? I really would appreciate any comments you may have. URL: http://alexwalker4assembly.net/ _______________________________________________ GPCA-MediaWG mailing list GPCA-MediaWG at lists.cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-mediawg -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 3 12:38:41 2009 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [GPCA-MediaComm] Please Comment on this "Stub" for a Campaign Web Site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <660518.69750.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Alex, I really like the issues you have set for your district on your page. My suggestions for the Taxes section when you expand it is to address the outrageous budget cuts to the UC system including UCLA, which is in your district. UCLA ranks #3 in a recently-released rankings by Washington Monthly, which assesses American universities and colleges based on their commitment to social mobility, research, and service. Unfortunately, social mobility starting with the incoming freshman class is at serious risk. The 2009-2010 school year is the first time in UC history that student "fees" (read as "tuition") have increased while major budget cuts are being implemented AND while the UC President Mark Yudof enjoys his $327,000 salary. We should be increasing Cal Grants, not eliminating the program. A recent interview with former Congressman Tom Campbell (who lives in my district) had him on record saying that he was against modifying Prop 13 because that is the main incentive he has when convincing businesses to move to California. This is wrong on multiple levels, so maybe you want to address why repealing Prop 13 for commercial property (excluding small businesses) makes fiscal sense given the fiscal nightmare California is in. For the health care section, obviously SB 810 (Leno) is a given, because an overwhelming majority of Californians want a single-payer insurance system (which may be possible should the Kucinich Amendment to HR 3200 pass). Maybe these suggestions ought to be part of the larger GPCA emphasis for 2010, but if any of this applies to your district, that would be good to highlight in the final web version. -edward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Sep 3 16:59:10 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Party Meeting, September 2, 2009 Message-ID: <121714.62660.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ????????????????????? Green Party Meeting--September 2, 2009 ? Present: Andrea, Fred, Merriam, Brian, Warner, Jim Stauffer, Jim Doyle, Gerry, Dana, Tian, Caroline Introductions Fred: Read an article on "think tanks" and was surprised that only 16% were deemed "liberal." ? Merriam: Wants us to join? Donna and Darlene on Mondays, at San Carlos and Market in San Joe (I'm assuming maybe not this coming Monday, Labor Day, because we will still be hauling off stuff from Tapestry Arts). Their demonstation is in support of Palestinians. ? Brian (I didn't get this. Brian, if you want everybody to know what this was, please post it) ? Warner: Received applause for the beautiful heirloom tomatoes he raised from our seeds and brought to share. He thinks we should get more seeds. He also said people who are getting sick of republicans and democrats are calling hi. He got a confirmation from one caller that he is joining the Green Party. He also mentioned the International Peace Bazaar at De Anza on Oct. 22. We are invited to go and table. ? Jim Doyle: leftover drinks from picnic available for small donation. ? Jim S, Gerry and Dana, and Caroline: no announcements Tian: Glad the picnic turned out so well. ? Andrea: Richard Lau invited us to the Cold War Museum at the Marin Headland on Sept. 5. We will be busy at Tapestry Arts. Raging Grannies are urging people to call our elected representatives to support Single Payer or at least a public option. ? Facilitator--Warner Time Keeper--Fred Vibes Watcher--Tian Note?Taker--Caroline ? Tapestry Arts this weekend?Jim Doyle We need more people to work. Jom has made up a schedule that includes phone numbers, so, if there is a problem, we can call somebody to help fill in. SO TAKE YOUR CELL PHONES, AND TURN THEM ON, Saturday 9:00-10:00 Warner and Caroline will set up. Caroline will hang around for a bit 10:00-2:00 Jim Stauffer will be alone, unless someone else volunteers 2:00-6:00 Brian and Cameron Sunday 10:00-2:00 Warner is alone 2:00-6:00 Eric and Tian (and Valerie?) Monday 10:00-2:00 Gerry and Dana 2:00-takedown Merriam and Caroline (and anyone else who cares to come help) Phone numbers: Jim? (408)432-9148 Brian?? (650)327-6214 Warner (408)295-9353 Eric (408)448-6726 Tian (650)964-6481 Valerie (408)261-3703 Caroline (408)530-0118 Drew? (408)773-9036? cell (408)480-0327 Merriam (408)482-6032 ? Andrea will make up a flyer on Single Payer. Jim D. will take paperwork for getting in to Tapestry to Warner. ? County Council Meeting:??? Andrea CC meetings for the rest of 2009:? September 20, October 19th, November 15th, no meeting in December. Tabling contacts culled from the notebooks will be electronically set up by Valerie, with Merriam, and Tian to be in charge of those lists. Caroline will file hard copies. We need to add 2 CC members and 2 advisors to the Sclara-cc chat list. Tian will talk to Cameron. Letter to Honda--consensus reached at picnic with 5 of 7 CC members present. We reached consensus on letter to Lofgren. Merriam will tell Smriti ? Treasurer's Report: Jim Doyle Current balance: $1,630.91 Picnic: Gross? $71? Net $39 Hat passing for this evening $77 ? Request for volunteers, affirmations of delegates and alternates for October 10-11 Plenary in Cotati: Warner We cannot wait until next meeting to name delegaes and alternates, for the plenary, because their names need to be on-line the day of our next meeting. Andrea volunteered. Dana will be an alternate Jim Stauffer and Warner will be there. Warner will post announcement asking for volunteers. Deadline September 15. County Council will affirm and send in names at the meeting on September 20. Warner will have a meeting to go over the plenary packet at his house, Sunday, Oct. 4, from 2:00-4:00. If you want to read the packet, you will have to get the password from somebody. ? Regional Business: Jim Stauffer San Mateo isn't doing well. Jim thought we might have a regional meeting.He wants to resign. We need a new regional rep. Jim will invite the San Mateo CC to meet with us. He will come to the CC meeting on Sept. 20.The CC restructuring proposal at the upcoming state meeting may affect the timing of the regional rep election. IRV-- Jim Stauffer Jim wants us to endorse the IRV (Instant run-off) program in San Jose. The Santa Clara County Green Party can do this. Jim will bring IRV materials to pass out this weekend. ? Valerie's Proposal Valerie proposed that we join the Sanra Clara County Coalition for Alternatives to the Death Penalty. We had a good discussion about it. Warner said it is consistent with our? platform.Jim Doyle pointed out that part of joining the Coalition was agreeing to have a representative at their meetings. We thought Valerie would go, but, since she wasn't present, Merriam, Tian, and Gerry agreed to go sometimes. We reached consensus on this. I'm not sure who is responsible for signing and returning the form. ? Volunteer Opportunities--Jim Doyle Jim posted a list of positions on commissions that are open. Mike Fischetti is on the Health Advisory Committee. (Everyone cheered) . Merriam and Andrea are going to look into something related to water. Anyone interested in any of these opportunities should look up Jim's previous e-mail. ? Tabling Events? Jim Doyle Sept 4-6 Tapestry Arts-- we will be on Market, if you can't sign up for hours, at least come by and give somebody a break ? Sept. 12-13--Mt View? Art and Wine wear your Green shirt and wander around. If you want to hand out stuff, you must go to the Free Speech Zone. ? Sept. 19--Santa Teresa Fest--Andrea and Caroline setting up before 9:00 It opens at11:00. Tian will come around noon and will stay until 5:00 to help Caroline take the stuff down--unless someone with a spacious car wants to come and relieve Caroline and help Tian take the stuff down. ? Sept 26--Willow Glen Founders Parade form 10:30-noon. We are too late to get in the parade, but you can go and wander around, wear your Green shirt, pass out something. ? October 22-De Anza ? Holiday Peace Fair, first weekend in December ? Merriam would like us to get a table at the San Pedro Square Farmer's Market some Friday. It would be a good place to push IRV, but tables cost $40-$45. ? Oct. 9--SJ Peace Center Open House for SJSU students.Tian will go, explain Green Party and pass out literature ? Oct 24--350--MUCH MORE LATER--get your thinking cap on to come up with a way we can be 350. Something that would get media attention. This is a Global action. For more info go to 350.org. ? California Fair Elections Campaign--Fred Fred, Andrea, Roy, and Brian went to the meeting. Fred spoke for the Green Party. There seems to be some feeling that this does not really offer the Green Party a way to break into politics big time. It will only be used in 2014 for the Secretary of State race. Jim D. says we ought to come up with a candidate and start raising money. Brian feels that we should be able to come up with the requisite number of donations/signature in four years. ? New member interested in Green Party--Merriam Aiesha is interested in becoming an active Green. She came to our table on Juneteenth. She came to our picnic. She is screening documentaries for her neighbors at her local library. Jane Bark in Fremont, who also does screenings, will work with her. Aiesha wants to be involved in our Green Fair (which we have put off until March), and will help with? the next Town Hall. ? Writing Articles and Letters--Fred Fred would like us to write letters to the editor and articles about Green subjects. We didn't get too far into this, but he wants it on the agenda for the next meeting. Be thinking of things you could write. ? Jim Doyle will write the agenda for the October meeting. Send him your ideas for great new things we can do to get noticed and be effective. Think about 350. ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Thu Sep 3 17:24:20 2009 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:24:20 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Delegates and alternates for October 10-11 Plenary in Cotati Message-ID: <20090903.172420.11664.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I am willing to be an alternate for the plenary. I can only be there on Sunday, October 11. Valerie Face ____________________________________________________________ Online Fashon Degrees Start earning an online fashion degree from the Art Institutes http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=J6Ho_c357lnp9ADm5oouoAAAJ1BSv5BgKRMxjoB2-H05qqW1AAQAAAAFAAAAAARWTj4AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFRE3AAAAAA== From rob.means at electric-bikes.com Thu Sep 3 15:47:25 2009 From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:47:25 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Letter to the Editor Message-ID: <014001ca2ce8$81f6cb30$6801a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Letter to the Editor Two weeks ago, the Post printed a letter under the heading "Health care proposal threatens grandma - and our freedom". Filled with distortions, fearful speculation and outright lies, it would take this entire newspaper to rebut all the nonsense. So, let's just take the fundamental lie "People tend to forget that our current health care system is by far the best in the world." No, it is not. According to the World Health Organization, U. S. ranks 37th in the world in health care performance, and 72nd in overall health, of the 191 nations surveyed. Or check what the Commonwealth Fund (commonwealthfund.org) says: "Despite having the most costly health system in the world, the United States consistently underperforms on most dimensions of performance, relative to other countries. ... Compared with five other nations-Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom-the U.S. health care system ranks last or next-to-last on five dimensions of a high performance health system: quality, access, efficiency, equity, and healthy lives." http://snipurl.com/rkzdm Healthy lives! Isn't that what we want? Well, ... not all of us. Some of us are more interested in being right or stopping the President's first legislative initiative than securing health care for all Americans - not rationing it to those who can afford it. In last week's Post under the heading "Obama care" (more nonsense given that Congress is actually writing the rules - all 5 versions of them), a writer urged us to "please read H. R. 3200 and decide for yourself". Apparently he has more time and determination than I to have waded through all 1017 pages of legalese. Instead, I seek out individuals and organizations that hold values aligned with the teachings of Jesus Christ. What they say about proposed new rules is filtered through my own experiences and beliefs before I make a conclusion. Here's my latest conclusion. No matter what your issue - energy efficiency, education, water, clean air, cute critters, technological evolution, spiritual evolution - you will not get the change you seek if health care fails. The corporations will have won, consolidated more power, secured more control over legislative bodies from national to local - and will stop any change you want. That's why it is important for all of us to support real health care reform now. Although my expertise and interest lies in the areas of energy efficiency and transportation, I have spent many hours and dollars to ensure that we get health care comparable to other industrialized nations. It makes economic sense, supports the ideals of our founding fathers (and mothers), and is simply the moral thing to do. Please join together to push back the cynicism that says health care reform is doomed. If we win this one, all the other battles ahead (next is our nation's energy policy) will be easier. Join in whatever way fits for you, but join in! Rob Means 1421 Yellowstone Avenue Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 408-262-0420 rob.means at electric-bikes.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Sep 3 22:27:37 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Hot News! Anna Eshoo will vote Yes on the Weiner Amendment! Sendoff moved to SAT. 9:15am Let's all Thank Her! Message-ID: <773649.14866.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: From: Lynn Huidekoper Subject: Hot News! Anna Eshoo will vote Yes on the Weiner Amendment! Sendoff moved to SAT. 9:15am Let's all Thank Her! To: "Lynn Huidekoper" Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 6:19 PM #yiv1669803280 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1669803280 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} #yiv1669803280 .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} #yiv1669803280 .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Anna did a superb job last evening at her Town Hall heavily attended by the teabagger nuts(their info is so off-I tried to engage 2 of them and not only are they ridiculously immature, angry and point their finger at you but they totally believe the lies out there! I was even called a communist because of my Si Se Puede Obama button! They were loud, rude, obnoxious besides being stupid and she handled them like a pro. Channel 2 did a nice piece on the 10 PM news. The Raging Grannies were shown. Everyone loved them as usual! ? Anna sent a reply today( see below)?to one of our activist's question re: the Weiner amendment (replacing HR3200 with HR 676) and she's voting Yes! This is a big step forward as?she's always supported universal coverage for kids but not Single Payer for adults.? We need to thank her by attending the Rally which was moved?from today to Sat. at 9:15A.?174 folks have already signed up on the OFA site. Bring placards. I will bring handouts.?? I didn't find out until today that the Rally Sendoff was moved from today to Sat. I had to go to the OFA(Organizing For America website) to find this info. ? Attached are: her Q&A to the common questions and my handout. I made a big booboo on the previous handouts which someone noticed yesterday. I Googled the Senate?Finance Dems and cut and pasted them. It turns out the list was from the 110th Congress and not this one. (so much for old?info being deleted). I have?updated it. ? ?? Sendoff Event for Representative Eshoo > > You can view the details of this event at any time by going to: > >?? http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/gpfkjq > > Attending: > Saturday, September 12 - 1 hour > > Time(s): > Saturday, September 12 from 9:15 AM - 10:15 AM > > Location: Outside of Rep. Eshoo's Office Building > 698 Emerson Street > Palo Alto, CA 94301 > Directions: > From 101 take University Ave. exit, go West. Turn left on > Emerson St., the office is two blocks down Emerson on the > right had side. Here's Anna's email sent today: Dear?Ms., ? Thank you for participating in my?Telephone?Town Hall?and for your support of a single payer system.? While I didn't get to speak with you during the meeting, I was very pleased to address the concerns of so many of my constituents.? Your particular question is an important one and I'm glad you took the time to leave a message for me. ? I agree with you and I believe there is great merit in a 'single-payer' healthcare plan.? Next?week when the full House of Representatives considers H.R. 3200,?America's Affordable Health Choices Act, Rep. Anthony Weiner will offer an amendment to establish a single-payer system and I plan to support it. ? Healthcare reform generates a wide range of reactions and perspectives because it affects every one of us.? With healthcare costs far outpacing inflation, we simply cannot sustain the status quo - it will bankrupt our nation.?Healthcare reform must encourage a robust competitive environment, contain costs, ensure choice, help small businesses, and make certain that no one is denied access to coverage because of a change in empl oyment or a pre-existing condition, and not add to our national debt.? We also have to contain the hemorrhaging costs of the Medicare system, which experts predict could be bankrupt by 2017.? ? That's why I voted for?America's Affordable Health Choices Act when it passed out of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, which I'm a Member of, on July 31st.?When Congress reconvenes next week, we will combine the legislation of the three House committees which wrote parts of the bill.?? I anticipate that the full House will take up the bill the latter part of September. We have a significant journey ahead of us before any bill becomes law and I remain committed to a reform bill which will benefit all Americans, without affecting individual choice, or hindering quality medical care.? Overall, the legislation I support keeps what's great about the American system in place, making it more accessible and affordable for all citizens, as well as fixing what's broken. ? I look forward to accomplishing comprehensive healthcare reform for our country before the end of this year and I'm pleased to have addressed your concerns and provided additional information about a single payer system.?I'm enclosing a copy of the most frequently asked questions and answers about healthcare.? I hope that you'll find this information helpful.? ? If you have other questions or comments, let me hear from20you.? I'm proud to represent a Congressional District where my constituents are informed and ask serious-minded, thoughtful questions, and provide me with valuable feedback. Sincerely, Anna G. Eshoo Member of Congress ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Q_and_A_s[1].doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 37376 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 4 15:55:18 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:55:18 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Saudi Prince on energy (in)dependence Message-ID: <4AA19AD6.1070601@sbcglobal.net> Saudi prince urges US to admit oil dependency Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:26:41 GMT Saudi Arabia's Prince Turki al-Faisal has scoffed at US efforts for finding an alternative to oil, urging Washington to recognize its energy dependency on the Middle East. In an article published by Italian newspaper /Il Sole 24 Ore/ on Friday, Turki ruled out energy independence as an unrealistic, groundless and harmful concept, which is likely to reappear following an economic recovery and subsequently higher oil prices. "There is no technology on the horizon which can replace oil to satisfy colossal needs of US industry, transport and armed forces. Any future scenario will be characterized by mix of renewable and non-renewable energies whether you like it or not," Turki said. The US has been seeking green energy since President Barack Obama raised the issue of independency from Middle Eastern oil in his electoral campaign in a bid to cut emissions of heat-trapping gases and to reduce the use of fossil fuels. Turki's comments come amid the US Senate's efforts to pass a wide-ranging energy and environmental bill to check the amount of greenhouse gases that big industries are allowed to emit. The former Saudi intelligence chief, and the Kingdom's one-time envoy to Washington and London, urged the US to abandon the rhetoric of energy independence and instead recognize interdependence of energy producers and consumers. "Whether you like it or not, the destinies of the United States and Saudi Arabia are linked and will remain (linked) for decades," he said. The United States ranks as the world's biggest energy consumer and is the primary trading partner for Saudi Arabia -- the world's biggest oil exporter. MRS/HGH http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=105280§ionid=351020205 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 4 16:10:09 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:10:09 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] This from ex senator Hagel: Message-ID: <4AA19E51.2030807@sbcglobal.net> This from ex senator Hagel: "Every great threat to the United States -- whether economic, terrorism, proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, health pandemics, environmental degradation, energy, or water and food shortages -- also threatens our global partners and rivals." abstracted from http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=105284§ionid=3510203 That appears to be a very useful talking point or points. From WB4D23 at aol.com Sat Sep 5 18:46:35 2009 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:46:35 EDT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for Delegates/Allternates for Oct 10-11 Plenary; Deadline Sept 15th Message-ID: This is a followup to an item from last Wednesday's GPSCC general meeting -- We are looking for GPSCC members to volunteer to be Delegates or alternates from our county to attend and participate in the GPCA state meeting in Cotati, CA, Saturday-Sunday October 10-11th. Delegates have the responsibility to vote on matters where votes are taken; Alternates sustitute for missing Delegates. The GPSCC has four Delegates. Our County Council has the responsibility for reporting our Delegates and Alternates. The GPSCC CC will be meeting September 17th and would like to be able to finalize our list at that time. At our September 3rd meeting, the following individuals volunteered for the following positions: Delegates: Jim Stauffer; Andrea Dorrey; Warner Bloomberg Alternates: Dana St. George (Valerie Face has volunteered to be an Alternate on Sunday, only) If you would like to volunteer to be a Delegate or Alternate, contact GPSCC County Council members or write to this list. A copy of the prposed agenda can be obtained via cagreens.org/plenary using the general password. If you do not know the password, contact a County Council member or other long term activist. The password is not communicated by email. We will have our usual agenda review meeting 2-4 pm Saturday October 3rd to prepare recommendations for the October 7th GPSCC meeting. Delegates and Alternates are strongly encouraged to attend this meeting. Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The new car, named the Parax, weighs 450 kg and is lighter than another electric car that was unveiled at Tehran's Khaje Nasir Toosi University last week. The Qasedak-e-Nasir (Dandelion of Nasir) weighed 700 kg. Once the battery of the Parax is charged, it can cover a distance of 100 kilometers and can reach a velocity of 110 kph, the Mehr News Agency reported. From wrolley at charter.net Tue Sep 8 22:10:53 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:10:53 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] campaign finance - supreme court In-Reply-To: <4AA72910.40803@sbcglobal.net> References: <4AA72910.40803@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4AA738DD.4020907@charter.net> Jim Doyle wrote: > Sotomayor and the rest of the court will return Wednesday for the argument in a key case about campaign finance law. > > What is this case about? A business man produced an extremely negative "documentary" of the life of Hilary Clinton. It was not allowed to be broadcast during the election cycle as a violation of limits on campaign contributions within a certain number of days before an election. The business man claimed it was a matter of free speech.. a guarantee to all citizens. However, the legal owner of the material was not the man himself, but rather a corporation that he had set up to fund and produce the documentary. This makes the case really one about corporate personhood and whether such free speech guarantees that we as citizens enjoy can also be enjoyed by corporations. It is a very, very major case and Greens should be paying a lot more attention to it. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 9 11:01:44 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:01:44 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects Message-ID: <4AA7ED88.6090000@sbcglobal.net> asdfadf John Mackey?s views on health care, much as I disagree with them, will not prevent me from shopping at Whole Foods. I can understand why people would want to boycott, but it?s important to play out the hypothetical consequences of a successful boycott. Whole Foods is not perfect, however if they were to disappear, the cause of improving Americans? health by building an alternative food system, based on more fresh food, pastured and humanely raised meats and sustainable agriculture, would suffer. I happen to believe health care reform has the potential to drive big changes in the food system, and to enlist the health care industry in the fight to reform agriculture. How? Because if health insurers can no longer pick and choose their clients, and throw sick people out, they will develop a much stronger interest in prevention, which is to say, in changing the way America feeds itself. When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in profits for every case of type II diabetes they can prevent, they will develop a strong interest in things like corn subsidies, local food systems, farmer?s markets, school lunch, public health campaigns about soda, etc. So Mackey is wrong on health care, but Whole Foods is often right about food, and their support for the farmers matters more to me than the political views of their founder. I haven?t examined the political views of all the retailers who feed me, but I can imagine having a lot of eating problems if I make them a litmus test. source: http://www.newmajority.com/a-reply-from-michael-pollan From fredd at freeshell.org Wed Sep 9 11:18:13 2009 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:18:13 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: <4AA7ED88.6090000@sbcglobal.net> References: <4AA7ED88.6090000@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4AA7F165.8090908@freeshell.org> Thanks for your interesting observations and thoughts, Jim. Fred Jim Doyle wrote: > asdfadf > > John Mackey?s views on health care, much as I disagree with them, will > not prevent > me from shopping at Whole Foods. > > I can understand why people would want to boycott, > but it?s important to play out the hypothetical consequences of a > successful boycott. > > Whole Foods is not perfect, however if they were to disappear, the cause > of improving > Americans? health by building an alternative food system, based on more > fresh food, > pastured and humanely raised meats and sustainable agriculture, would > suffer. > > I happen to believe health care reform has the potential to drive big > changes in the food system, > and to enlist the health care industry in the fight to reform > agriculture. How? Because if > health insurers can no longer pick and choose their clients, and throw > sick people out, > they will develop a much stronger interest in prevention, which is to > say, in changing the > way America feeds itself. > > When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in profits > for every case of > type II diabetes they can prevent, they will develop a strong interest > in things like corn > subsidies, local food systems, farmer?s markets, school lunch, public > health > campaigns about soda, etc. > > So Mackey is wrong on health care, but Whole Foods is often right > about food, and their support for the farmers matters more to me than > the political views of their > founder. I haven?t examined the political views of all the retailers who > feed me, but I can imagine > having a lot of eating problems if I make them a litmus test. > > source: http://www.newmajority.com/a-reply-from-michael-pollan > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 9 22:44:25 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:44:25 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KPFA elections Message-ID: <4AA89239.6070506@sbcglobal.net> Dear Jim, I would appreciate it if you could share the following with the Greens in Santa Clara County. Thank you. Aki Tanaka- GPAC --------------------------------- Dear Greens, As you all know balloting for the KPFA Local Station board has started. Although most candidates running for the board claim to espouse progressive politics, there is a clear difference in the direction they want to take KPFA. The Concerned Listeners, who have held the majority on the board for the last three years, want to make the station more 'professional' and mainstream. They believe that the management should set station policy and make programming decisions. In their platform they refer to the unpaid staff which comprise 3/4 of the station as a 'sectarian group' and say that the unpaid staff are packing their organization with "people who have only tangential relationship to KPFA?. But KPFA cannot exist without the unpaid staff. They are news reporters, DJs, public-affairs hosts and members of the KPFA Apprenticeship Program. The Independents for Community Radio want to put the community back in community radio; they believe that programming decisions and other significant station policies need to be made collaboratively. (For more info, please see their website at: http://www.indyradio2009.org/ ). I am concerned that the Concerned Listeners doctrine of concentrated management power and its disrespect for the unpaid staff could turn KPFA into another mainstream station and marginalize the listener community. It is a critical election which will determine the direction the station will go. Please rank vote for the candidates who are endorsed by the ?Independents for Community Radio?. The candidates are: Akio Tanaka, Henry Norr, Banafsheh Akhlaghi, Evelyn Sanchez, Rahman Jamaal, Andrea Prichett, Lara Kiswani, Adam Hudson, Sasha Futran, Shara Esbenshade, and Ann Hallet. Your vote is important so please vote and mail in your ballot. Sincerely Akio Tanaka GPAC and Listener Delegate-KPFA LSB --------------------------------------------- The platform-statement of the 'Concerned Listeners' and a rebuttal by ?Independents for Community Radio can be found at: http://indyradio2009.org/sites/default/files/CL_Statement-Rebuttal.html From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Sep 10 02:21:26 2009 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:21:26 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Pacifica Elections - KPFA, WBAI, KPFK In-Reply-To: References: <4AA56CFB.6000503@pon.net> <890111.58842.qm@web111414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I sent this out a couple of months ago. Here's a reminder.... I'd like to recommend two candidates I know from the local Accountability movement at Stanford, Adam Hudson and Shara Esbenshade, both running for the Local Station Board. Adam is a senior from Pittsburg, California. He's majoring in international relations, studying Arabic, and plans to be a muckraking lawyer. He is highly skilled in dealing with the bullshit of action group dynamics. Shara is a sophomore who became involved in independent media in Champaign, Illinois while still in high school and has been active in labor rights and the anti-war movement. With experience in radio, online newspapers, and online film distribution, Shara wants to facilitate interactive online programming at KPFA. From Adam's statement: "The people on these boards represent listeners, staff and volunteers in reviewing the station budget, choosing a station manager, selecting Pacifica National Board members and making sure Pacifica sticks to its mission of providing a media voice to the community it represents....I believe in the effectiveness of independent media outlets, such as KPFA, of raising awareness about issues and perspectives that rarely get heard in corporate media outlets and would like to see the station do more in reaching out to young people and minority communities." From Shara's statement: "Independent media ... strengthens grassroots collective action both through the practice of creating such media and through the information and culture that.... reflects and nurtures grassroots activism.... I want to serve as a listener delegate on the local KPFA board to help make systemic changes to ensure a truly democratic and sustainable way of decision-making within the local radio station because the democratic process is not only as important as the output on the air, but it informs that output.... I will spread awareness about the importance of independent radio, involve youth in its process, and will create discussion to bring the ideas and feedback of youth to the local board." I don't listen to radio myself, because I find linear real-time data transfer to be an inefficient process. I like random access--such as you get in a newspaper or magazine. I therefore find Shara's suggestion intriguing that KPFA improve their internet infrastructure, because it would allow the listener to choose which stories s/he listens to and when. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Sep 10 08:31:20 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KPFA--a message from Andrea Message-ID: <516848.85336.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ?Hi, This is a message from Andrea, who doesn't currently have computer access. Listen to KPFA at 9:00 a.m., or, if you can, stream the Morning Show. Lynn Woolsey (sp?) talked about health care. She said all three bills by the Dems have Public Option. She also said the Black Caucus is firmly behind it. Get those $1 contributions flowing in. Andrea believes Obama can still be bought. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From seth at swoolley.homeip.net Fri Sep 11 03:17:19 2009 From: seth at swoolley.homeip.net (Seth Alan Woolley) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:17:19 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council Message-ID: <20090911101719.GT15337@mail.swoolley.org> Hi South Bay Greens, My coworker, Jim Griffith is running for Sunnyvale City Council. He's chair of the library board right now. http://jimforcouncil.org/ http://twitter.com/JimGriffith_SV He's already racked up endorsements from, for example: California League of Conservation Voters Sierra Club Silicon Valley Democratic Club He's progressive and a stamp collector. We call him stamp boy at work. You should probably interview him for an endorsement. http://www.smartvoter.org/2009/11/03/ca/scl/race/5253/ This is the opponent: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pennykelly www.ElectPennyKelly.com Standard right-wing rhetoric, e.g.: "Whether from loss of employment, a business that's struggling or fear that the highspeed rail or downtown building will take your property." Jim hired me at my current job, so he must make some good decisions. :) If it means anything, I'm Secretary of the Pacific Green Party of Oregon and Treasurer of the Portland Metro Chapter. I was the Oregon Secretary of State candidate in 2008. I don't know your policies regarding registration and endorsements. I'm pretty sure he's registered Democrat. He's no Blue Dog though. Seth -- S E T H A L A N W O O L L E Y ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? pacificgreens.org: Secretary and SCC Member?deCarta, Inc. NavSDK Local: pdxpgp.org: Treasurer and Web Editor?Sr Software Engineer ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 3403 NE Stanton St?gnupg.org key C6ED433C =?http://swoolley.org/ Portland, OR 97212?ACB3 39BE B9A2 12A0 C073?Cell: (503) 953-3943 USA, 97212-2744 03?4CDF 7F70 DAC6 C6ED 433C?45.5438 N 122.6295 W ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? facebook + twitter ? sethwoolley?swoolley ? Linked-In + Freenode ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Caroline --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Seth Alan Woolley wrote: From: Seth Alan Woolley Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 3:17 AM Hi South Bay Greens, My coworker, Jim Griffith is running for Sunnyvale City Council. He's chair of the library board right now. http://jimforcouncil.org/ http://twitter.com/JimGriffith_SV He's already racked up endorsements from, for example: California League of Conservation Voters Sierra Club Silicon Valley Democratic Club He's progressive and a stamp collector.? We call him stamp boy at work. You should probably interview him for an endorsement. http://www.smartvoter.org/2009/11/03/ca/scl/race/5253/ This is the opponent: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pennykelly www.ElectPennyKelly.com Standard right-wing rhetoric, e.g.: "Whether from loss of employment, a business that's struggling or fear that the highspeed rail or downtown building will take your property." Jim hired me at my current job, so he must make some good decisions. :) If it means anything, I'm Secretary of the Pacific Green Party of Oregon and Treasurer of the Portland Metro Chapter. I was the Oregon Secretary of State candidate in 2008. I don't know your policies regarding registration and endorsements. I'm pretty sure he's registered Democrat.? He's no Blue Dog though. Seth -- S???E???T???H? ? ? A???L???A???N? ? ???W???O???O???L???L???E???Y ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? pacificgreens.org: Secretary and SCC Member?deCarta, Inc. NavSDK Local: pdxpgp.org: Treasurer and Web Editor?Sr Software Engineer ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 3403 NE Stanton St?gnupg.org key C6ED433C =?http://swoolley.org/ Portland, OR 97212?ACB3 39BE B9A2 12A0 C073?Cell: (503) 953-3943 USA, 97212-2744 03?4CDF 7F70 DAC6 C6ED 433C?45.5438 N 122.6295 W ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? facebook + twitter ? sethwoolley?swoolley ? Linked-In + Freenode ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is a schedule of Town Meetings: Santa Clara University at 1:00 pm at the Mayer Theatre, 500 El Camino Real, Santa Clara. Addison-Penzak JCC Levy Family Campus, at 3:00 pm 14855 Oka Road, Los Gatos. Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From palmheaven at gmail.com Fri Sep 11 10:07:10 2009 From: palmheaven at gmail.com (Palm Haven Handyman) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:07:10 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Heads Up About Mike Honda Town Meeting In-Reply-To: <8CC01145B93B676-22F8-38@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC01145B93B676-22F8-38@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hey, folks, what Alex failed to mention is that these town halls will be THIS SUNDAY, September the 13th. See you there. Roy III On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:30 AM, wrote: > Dear Bay Area Green Friends, > > Cathy Deppe just returned last night from a trip to Washington, D.C. where > she met with a number of prominent progressive labor leaders and community > allies. > > She was told that San Jose Congressman Mike Honda has an upcoming "town > meeting" on health care and rightwing crazies are planning to pack the > meeting with wing nuts. I hate to say it, but while Cathy was in Washington, > she heard some very disturbing reports from congressional staffers about the > frightening level of hate, including obvious race hatred, that has been > unleashed by sicko "conservatives" since the 2008 election. > > F.Y.I. Here is a schedule of Town Meetings: > > > Santa Clara University at 1:00 pm at the Mayer Theatre, 500 El Camino Real, > Santa Clara. > > Addison-Penzak JCC Levy Family Campus, at 3:00 pm 14855 Oka Road, Los > Gatos. > > > Alex Walker > Los Angeles Greens > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Greenbuilder CA General Contractor B #756438 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you find him fitting to endorse, then he'll also be easier to hold to what he's said to you in the endorsement interview if he knows where his support base is. In my experience, Greens are usually fickle when it comes to endorsements, and he knows this already. One of his main activities as a public citizen while not on the council was championing green causes like sustainability at the local level. His website discusses such things. At least the League of Compromising^WConservation Voters saw fit to endorse him already (after an interview). I also know for a fact he's solid on gay rights issues and civic transparency, among other things. I endorse him myself generally, but it'll take your own evaluation to come to a group endorsement, if you do that kind of thing. What did you not like that the Council has done? I already sent him a link to this discussion page, so he might even just be able to reply directly. Seth On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:19:44AM -0700, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > I live in Sunnyvale. I have been disturbed by many things the Sunnyvale City > Council has done. I care a great deal about getting new people on the council > who will reflect my concerns. I read the campaign information about Jim > Griffith and Penny Kelly. Neither of them is a Green, but one is a friend > of a Green. I'm not sure that is enough to make me endorse him without > actually talking to him. And if we are going to talk to him, I think it > only fair to talk to his opponent. > > Caroline > > --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Seth Alan Woolley wrote: > > > From: Seth Alan Woolley > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 3:17 AM > > > Hi South Bay Greens, > > My coworker, Jim Griffith is running for Sunnyvale City Council. > > He's chair of the library board right now. > > http://jimforcouncil.org/ > > http://twitter.com/JimGriffith_SV > > He's already racked up endorsements from, for example: > > California League of Conservation Voters > Sierra Club > Silicon Valley Democratic Club > > He's progressive and a stamp collector.? We call him stamp boy at work. > > You should probably interview him for an endorsement. > > > > http://www.smartvoter.org/2009/11/03/ca/scl/race/5253/ > > This is the opponent: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/pennykelly > > www.ElectPennyKelly.com > > Standard right-wing rhetoric, e.g.: > > "Whether from loss of employment, a business that's struggling or fear that > the highspeed rail or downtown building will take your property." > > > > Jim hired me at my current job, so he must make some good decisions. :) > > If it means anything, I'm Secretary of the Pacific Green Party > of Oregon and Treasurer of the Portland Metro Chapter. > > I was the Oregon Secretary of State candidate in 2008. > > I don't know your policies regarding registration and endorsements. > > I'm pretty sure he's registered Democrat.? He's no Blue Dog though. > > Seth > > -- > S???E???T???H? ? ? A???L???A???N? ? ???W???O???O???L???L???E???Y > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > pacificgreens.org: Secretary and SCC Member?deCarta, Inc. NavSDK > Local: pdxpgp.org: Treasurer and Web Editor?Sr Software Engineer > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > 3403 NE Stanton St?gnupg.org key C6ED433C =?http://swoolley.org/ > Portland, OR 97212?ACB3 39BE B9A2 12A0 C073?Cell: (503) 953-3943 > USA, 97212-2744 03?4CDF 7F70 DAC6 C6ED 433C?45.5438 N 122.6295 W > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > facebook + twitter ? sethwoolley?swoolley ? Linked-In + Freenode > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- S E T H A L A N W O O L L E Y ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? pacificgreens.org: Secretary and SCC Member?deCarta, Inc. NavSDK Local: pdxpgp.org: Treasurer and Web Editor?Sr Software Engineer ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? 3403 NE Stanton St?gnupg.org key C6ED433C =?http://swoolley.org/ Portland, OR 97212?ACB3 39BE B9A2 12A0 C073?Cell: (503) 953-3943 USA, 97212-2744 03?4CDF 7F70 DAC6 C6ED 433C?45.5438 N 122.6295 W ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? facebook + twitter ? sethwoolley?swoolley ? 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Meece) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:59:59 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Heads Up About Mike Honda Town Meeting In-Reply-To: <8CC01145B93B676-22F8-38@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC01145B93B676-22F8-38@webmail-stg-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <800AFC09840D49EAA1BCAC48C5D00863@eameecePC> That's Sunday Sept.13 ----- Original Message ----- From: alexcathy at aol.com To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:30 AM Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Heads Up About Mike Honda Town Meeting Dear Bay Area Green Friends, Cathy Deppe just returned last night from a trip to Washington, D.C. where she met with a number of prominent progressive labor leaders and community allies. She was told that San Jose Congressman Mike Honda has an upcoming "town meeting" on health care and rightwing crazies are planning to pack the meeting with wing nuts. I hate to say it, but while Cathy was in Washington, she heard some very disturbing reports from congressional staffers about the frightening level of hate, including obvious race hatred, that has been unleashed by sicko "conservatives" since the 2008 election. F.Y.I. Here is a schedule of Town Meetings: Santa Clara University at 1:00 pm at the Mayer Theatre, 500 El Camino Real, Santa Clara. Addison-Penzak JCC Levy Family Campus, at 3:00 pm 14855 Oka Road, Los Gatos. Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We then rank the responses on a 'Green scale' and publicize the results. Jim Caroline Yacoub wrote: > I live in Sunnyvale. I have been disturbed by many things the Sunnyvale > City Council has done. I care a great deal about getting new people on > the council who will reflect my concerns. I read the campaign > information about Jim Griffith and Penny Kelly. Neither of them is a > Green, but one is a friend of a Green. I'm not sure that is enough to > make me endorse him without actually talking to him. And if we are going > to talk to him, I think it only fair to talk to his opponent. > Caroline > > --- On *Fri, 9/11/09, Seth Alan Woolley //* wrote: > > > From: Seth Alan Woolley > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 3:17 AM > > Hi South Bay Greens, > > My coworker, Jim Griffith is running for Sunnyvale City Council. > > He's chair of the library board right now. > > http://jimforcouncil.org/ > > http://twitter.com/JimGriffith_SV > > He's already racked up endorsements from, for example: > > California League of Conservation Voters > Sierra Club > Silicon Valley Democratic Club > > He's progressive and a stamp collector. We call him stamp boy at work. > > You should probably interview him for an endorsement. > > > > http://www.smartvoter.org/2009/11/03/ca/scl/race/5253/ > > This is the opponent: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/pennykelly > > www.ElectPennyKelly.com > > Standard right-wing rhetoric, e.g.: > > "Whether from loss of employment, a business that's struggling or > fear that > the highspeed rail or downtown building will take your property." > > > > Jim hired me at my current job, so he must make some good decisions. :) > > If it means anything, I'm Secretary of the Pacific Green Party > of Oregon and Treasurer of the Portland Metro Chapter. > > I was the Oregon Secretary of State candidate in 2008. > > I don't know your policies regarding registration and endorsements. > > I'm pretty sure he's registered Democrat. He's no Blue Dog though. > > Seth > > -- > S E T H A L A N W O O L L E Y > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > pacificgreens.org: Secretary and SCC Member?deCarta, Inc. NavSDK > Local: pdxpgp.org: Treasurer and Web Editor?Sr Software Engineer > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > 3403 NE Stanton St?gnupg.org key C6ED433C =?http://swoolley.org/ > Portland, OR 97212?ACB3 39BE B9A2 12A0 C073?Cell: (503) 953-3943 > USA, 97212-2744 03?4CDF 7F70 DAC6 C6ED 433C?45.5438 N 122.6295 W > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > facebook + twitter ? sethwoolley?swoolley ? Linked-In + Freenode > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Sep 11 15:06:34 2009 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:06:34 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Condi Rice Speaks in San Jose Thursday 9/17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It sure would be great if y'all could be there. She speaks at 10:15 a.m. at the Fairmont in San Jose (Market and San Fernando on Cesar Chavez Plaza) about "Effective Leadership and Global Diplomacy". https://www.sapevents.com/SAP/WorldTour2009/index.cfm?iLocationID=10018&fuseaction=site.Content&contentID=97&ct=Agenda Registration to go inside appears to be free. Brian Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. Find out more. With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. Click here. Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try it now. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. 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URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Fri Sep 11 18:10:50 2009 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:10:50 -0400 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Good Commentary about Van Jones Message-ID: <8CC015D007A27E8-EC8-4805@webmail-stg-d11.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, So much has been written about the saga of environmental activist Van Jones, that there is little that I can add. At the top of the California Greening blog my friend, Wes Rolley, has written "Greens come from many backgrounds. There are more than a few who were, like myself, once Republicans and who left that party... or rather found that the party left them. Right now, having found a political home with the Greens, I want to make sure that the Green Party of California does not leave me. I am too old to go through this again." So true. The Van Jones saga is painful for me personally because even though I do not know Mr. Jones well, I have followed his career and read his writings with great interest, because his path has been so similar to my own. Accordingly, I will here just post links to my favorite commentaries about the firing of Van Jones by the cowardly Obama Democrats and conclude after the jump with the full text of a powerful statement released by the Green Party. Dumping Van Jones: Why Give In To Republicans' Tantrums? by John McWhorter, posted on the web site for (of all media) The New Republic. Meet the Real Van Jones by Judith Lewis published as an Op-Ed in The Los Angeles Times. Obama Has Fed His Green Jones to King CONG by Harvey Wasserman posted on Common Dreams. * * * * * * * * GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES For Immediate Release: Thursday, September 10, 2009 Top Ten Reasons Why Van Jones Should Give Up On Obama and the Democratic Party, Come Home to the Green Party WASHINGTON, DC -- Green Party leaders invited Van Jones, who stepped down recently as President Obama's advisor on Green Jobs, to abandon the Democratic Party and "come home to the Green Party." Greens called Mr. Jones, who resigned last Saturday after coming under rightwing attack, the best of what the Obama Administration had to offer America, but said that Mr. Jones' principles were bound to clash with President Obama's capitulations to corporate lobbies and to 'blue dog' Democratic and Republican ideologues. "The Green Party invites Van Jones, with his decades of experience working for justice and the environment, to join a political party that embraces and defends that agenda and the people who work for it -- the Green Party. Like the Greens, Van Jones sees green jobs and a healthy environment as interconnected pillars of a sustainable and just economy. We encourage Van to bring that agenda into the electoral arena as a Green Party member, leader and possible future candidate, either nationally, statewide in California, or locally in Oakland, his home," said Mike Feinstein, co-chair of the Green Party of the United States and former Mayor of Santa Monica, California. Greens offered 'Top Ten reasons why Van Jones should give up on President Obama and the Democratic Party, and come home to the Green Party" The Obama Administration's failure to defend Mr. Jones recalls similar retreats by the Clinton Administration, when Bill Clinton allowed Republicans and some Democrats to bully him into removing Assistant Attorney General nominee Lani Guinier and Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders. The targets tend to be Black -- consistent with Republican fury over the election of Barack Obama to the White House. The extremists who sought Mr. Jones' removal see their action as part of a wider plan to derail measures against global warming and block greens jobs programs: see "How Van Jones Happened and What We Need to Do Next," by Phil Kerpen, Fox Forum (Fox News), September 5 (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/06/phil-kerpen-van-jones-resign/). They smell blood, and the Obama Administration and Democratic leaders are cowering. Van Jones is a national leader for human rights, public health, and the environment. As 2004 Green presidential nominee David Cobb said, "The Democratic Party is the graveyard of progressive ideas." These ideas -- including green jobs, the 'Green For All' agenda (http://www.greenforall.org), and other ideas expressed by Mr. Jones -- are thriving in the Green Party. Among Greens, Mr. Jones need not play down his activism on behalf of the lives and well-being of Black Americans. He will not get called "reverse racist" of "anti-white" by Greens for addressing persistent racial disparities in economics, employment, health, treatment by the justice system, the response to Katrina and post-hurricane rebuilding, etc. The Green Party shares Mr. Jones' goals of racial justice. Among Greens, Mr. Jones will not get scolded for calling former President George W. Bush a 'crackhead' in the context of Mr. Bush's obsessive devotion to industries that are feeding America's addiction to fossil fuel energy. Among Greens, Mr. Jones need not apologize for questioning the behavior of the Bush Administration in connection with the 9/11 attacks. (See http://www.gp.org/press/pr_07_29_04b.html) Mr. Jones has called for an end to coal energy, while President Obama continues to repeat the myth of 'clean coal.' Mr. Jones' analysis of the global warming threat and the need for conservation and a green economy are reflected in the Green Party's platform and principles. (See also http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=242) If the epithet that Mr. Jones used to describe Republicans was offensive, imagine the words people will use later this century, when the effects of global warming have grown more severe, to describe Republican (and Democratic) officeholders from 2009 who refused to take necessary action to curb global warming's advance. The media have given Glenn Beck and the 'Tea Party' crowd generous coverage. (Compare the minimal and dismissive reporting on the hundreds of thousands of Americans who protested the Iraq War in 2003.) Republicans have benefited from the current political paradigm, which places extreme Republicans like Mr. Beck at the right end and 'moderate' Democrats like President Obama at the left end of the spectrum of allowable debate. Van Jones is a target for the same reason that former US Representative (D-Ga.) and 2008 Green presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney and others have been dismissed and ridiculed -- because they offer ideas unacceptable to media dominated by corporate interests. The emergence of the Green Party is key to overturning this paradigm, changing the political landscape, and expanding the public debate. The Green Party sees no reason to appease Republicans, Fox News, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Democratic leaders, or others who've used their power to serve corporate elites, to the detriment of working people and America's future. Greens call Van Jones too important for America to disappear from the public forum. "As a Green, Van Jones can be a strong national voice for justice and the environment, independent of the constraints of the Democratic Party hierarchy, the corporate lobbies that pull their strings, and the right-wing appeasement and selling out of grassroots social movements that appears to be their strategy," said Marian Douglas-Ungaro of the DC Statehood Green Party and the Green Party Black Caucus. Read More and Leave a Comment at: http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2009/09/democrats-v-republicans-v-greens-van.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am quite offended by the CEO's arrogance in proclaiming that a good portion of the planet's human beings do not deserve to have a safety net that guarantees the basics of life when they are often deprived of the means of paying for these while caught in a brutal financial system that they did not have a chance to vote for. Andrea On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > asdfadf > > John Mackey?s views on health care, much as I disagree with them, will > not prevent > me from shopping at Whole Foods. > > I can understand why people would want to boycott, > but it?s important to play out the hypothetical consequences of a > successful boycott. > > Whole Foods is not perfect, however if they were to disappear, the > cause > of improving > Americans? health by building an alternative food system, based on > more > fresh food, > pastured and humanely raised meats and sustainable agriculture, would > suffer. > > I happen to believe health care reform has the potential to drive big > changes in the food system, > and to enlist the health care industry in the fight to reform > agriculture. How? Because if > health insurers can no longer pick and choose their clients, and throw > sick people out, > they will develop a much stronger interest in prevention, which is to > say, in changing the > way America feeds itself. > > When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in profits > for every case of > type II diabetes they can prevent, they will develop a strong interest > in things like corn > subsidies, local food systems, farmer?s markets, school lunch, public > health > campaigns about soda, etc. > > So Mackey is wrong on health care, but Whole Foods is often right > about food, and their support for the farmers matters more to me than > the political views of their > founder. I haven?t examined the political views of all the > retailers who > feed me, but I can imagine > having a lot of eating problems if I make them a litmus test. > > source: http://www.newmajority.com/a-reply-from-michael-pollan > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Sat Sep 12 19:21:56 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] KPFA--a message from Andrea In-Reply-To: <516848.85336.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <516848.85336.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I sure do. I mentioned it at the AARP meeting on Friday to a few Single Payer supporters, in spite of AARP's reluctance to support same. I also mentioned it at the Single Payer meeting in San Francisco with speaker Dr Flowers, one of the Baucus eight. A bunch of Grey Panthers were there and one of them thought the send-a-dollar to Obama was a terrific idea! Andrea On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:31 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Hi, > This is a message from Andrea, who doesn't currently have computer > access. > Listen to KPFA at 9:00 a.m., or, if you can, stream the Morning > Show. Lynn Woolsey (sp?) talked about health care. She said all > three bills by the Dems have Public Option. She also said the Black > Caucus is firmly behind it. Get those $1 contributions flowing in. > Andrea believes Obama can still be bought. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 12 21:54:08 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:54:08 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] gpscc cc meeting agenda Message-ID: <4AAC7AF0.200@sbcglobal.net> Do you have something yuou wish to have the county council discuss at their next meeting, Sunday September 20-th? If so, email me your suggestions. Jim Doyle From tnharter at aceweb.com Sat Sep 12 23:27:31 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 06:27:31 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council In-Reply-To: <330700.19898.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <330700.19898.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AAC90D3.4040400@aceweb.com> I think we should either invite both of them to speak at the beginning of our next county meeting or host a "Sunnyvale Greens Forum" or something like that for picking an endorsement among them. If we do the latter we gotta do some work to build a crowd and so forth. Tian Caroline Yacoub wrote: > I live in Sunnyvale. I have been disturbed by many things the Sunnyvale > City Council has done. I care a great deal about getting new people on > the council who will reflect my concerns. I read the campaign > information about Jim Griffith and Penny Kelly. Neither of them is a > Green, but one is a friend of a Green. I'm not sure that is enough to > make me endorse him without actually talking to him. And if we are going > to talk to him, I think it only fair to talk to his opponent. > Caroline > > --- On *Fri, 9/11/09, Seth Alan Woolley //* wrote: > > > From: Seth Alan Woolley > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 3:17 AM > > Hi South Bay Greens, > > My coworker, Jim Griffith is running for Sunnyvale City Council. > > He's chair of the library board right now. > > http://jimforcouncil.org/ > > http://twitter.com/JimGriffith_SV > > He's already racked up endorsements from, for example: > > California League of Conservation Voters > Sierra Club > Silicon Valley Democratic Club > > He's progressive and a stamp collector. We call him stamp boy at work. > > You should probably interview him for an endorsement. > > > > http://www.smartvoter.org/2009/11/03/ca/scl/race/5253/ > > This is the opponent: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/pennykelly > > www.ElectPennyKelly.com > > Standard right-wing rhetoric, e.g.: > > "Whether from loss of employment, a business that's struggling or > fear that > the highspeed rail or downtown building will take your property." > > > > Jim hired me at my current job, so he must make some good decisions. :) > > If it means anything, I'm Secretary of the Pacific Green Party > of Oregon and Treasurer of the Portland Metro Chapter. > > I was the Oregon Secretary of State candidate in 2008. > > I don't know your policies regarding registration and endorsements. > > I'm pretty sure he's registered Democrat. He's no Blue Dog though. > > Seth > > -- > S E T H A L A N W O O L L E Y > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > pacificgreens.org: Secretary and SCC Member?deCarta, Inc. NavSDK > Local: pdxpgp.org: Treasurer and Web Editor?Sr Software Engineer > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > 3403 NE Stanton St?gnupg.org key C6ED433C =?http://swoolley.org/ > Portland, OR 97212?ACB3 39BE B9A2 12A0 C073?Cell: (503) 953-3943 > USA, 97212-2744 03?4CDF 7F70 DAC6 C6ED 433C?45.5438 N 122.6295 W > ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > facebook + twitter ? sethwoolley?swoolley ? Linked-In + Freenode > ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber duck. On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Sep 13 08:52:33 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council In-Reply-To: <4AAC90D3.4040400@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <308820.83049.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Tian. There are, or at least were, around 400 Greens in Sunnyvale. Any ideas how to gather up a bunch of them? And do we need to include only Greens? I haven't seen anything from Drew lately. Maybe he knows more Greens here than I do. I have around a dozen. I haven't been very successful at getting them out to Green events. Caroline --- On Sat, 9/12/09, Tian Harter wrote: From: Tian Harter Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council To: Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 11:27 PM I think we should either invite both of them to speak at the beginning of our next county meeting or host a "Sunnyvale Greens Forum" or something like that for picking an endorsement among them. If we do the latter we gotta do some work to build a crowd and so forth. Tian Caroline Yacoub wrote: > I live in Sunnyvale. I have been disturbed by many things the Sunnyvale > City Council has done. I care a great deal about getting new people on > the council who will reflect my concerns. I read the campaign > information about Jim Griffith and Penny Kelly. Neither of them is a > Green, but one is a friend of a Green. I'm not sure that is enough to > make me endorse him without actually talking to him. And if we are going > to talk to him, I think it only fair to talk to his opponent. > Caroline > > --- On *Fri, 9/11/09, Seth Alan Woolley //* wrote: > > >? ???From: Seth Alan Woolley >? ???Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Jim Griffith for Sunnyvale, CA Council >? ???To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >? ???Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 3:17 AM > >? ???Hi South Bay Greens, > >? ???My coworker, Jim Griffith is running for Sunnyvale City Council. > >? ???He's chair of the library board right now. > >? ???http://jimforcouncil.org/ > >? ???http://twitter.com/JimGriffith_SV > >? ???He's already racked up endorsements from, for example: > >? ???California League of Conservation Voters >? ???Sierra Club >? ???Silicon Valley Democratic Club > >? ???He's progressive and a stamp collector.? We call him stamp boy at work. > >? ???You should probably interview him for an endorsement. > > > >? ???http://www.smartvoter.org/2009/11/03/ca/scl/race/5253/ > >? ???This is the opponent: > >? ???http://www.linkedin.com/in/pennykelly > >? ???www.ElectPennyKelly.com > >? ???Standard right-wing rhetoric, e.g.: > >? ???"Whether from loss of employment, a business that's struggling or >? ???fear that >? ???the highspeed rail or downtown building will take your property." > > > >? ???Jim hired me at my current job, so he must make some good decisions. :) > >? ???If it means anything, I'm Secretary of the Pacific Green Party >? ???of Oregon and Treasurer of the Portland Metro Chapter. > >? ???I was the Oregon Secretary of State candidate in 2008. > >? ???I don't know your policies regarding registration and endorsements. > >? ???I'm pretty sure he's registered Democrat.? He's no Blue Dog though. > >? ???Seth > >? ???-- >? ???S???E???T???H? ? ? A???L???A???N? ? ???W???O???O???L???L???E???Y >? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >? ???pacificgreens.org: Secretary and SCC Member?deCarta, Inc. NavSDK >? ???Local: pdxpgp.org: Treasurer and Web Editor?Sr Software Engineer >? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >? ???3403 NE Stanton St?gnupg.org key C6ED433C =?http://swoolley.org/ >? ???Portland, OR 97212?ACB3 39BE B9A2 12A0 C073?Cell: (503) 953-3943 >? ???USA, 97212-2744 03?4CDF 7F70 DAC6 C6ED 433C?45.5438 N 122.6295 W >? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >? ???facebook + twitter ? sethwoolley?swoolley ? Linked-In + Freenode >? ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > >? ???-----Inline Attachment Follows----- > >? ???_______________________________________________ >? ???sosfbay-discuss mailing list >? ???sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >? ??? >? ???http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber duck. On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Sep 13 09:20:53 2009 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects Message-ID: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> >From: Andrea Dorey >Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:15:58 -0700 >To: Jim Doyle >X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) >Cc: sosfbay discussion group >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects >Jim Doyle's [sic] rationale for continuing to shop at Whole Foods, much as = >I agree with his logic, will NOT keep me from boycotting Whole Foods. >I am quite offended by the CEO's arrogance in proclaiming that a good = >Andrea Nader has argued if you were serious about boycotting evildoers you'd have to withdraw from the modern economy. I think it's a matter of degree. You should withdraw from the parts that offend you most. I also think it's a mistake to think of Mackey as in control of Whole Foods and its behaviors. The situations in food retailing and antitrust non-enforcement demanded that one company become "the Walmart of organic groceries." There was a strong vacuum from that empty niche in the economy. Whole Foods just happened to get there first and Mackey just happened to be CEO. >On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: >> asdfadf >> >> John Mackey=92s views on health care, much as I disagree with them, will >> not prevent >> me from shopping at Whole Foods. I believe the quote (below) by Jim is from Michael Pallan. He has a point. Insurance companies broke the unanimous denialism among large corporations that the current climate change is manmade. Chink in the armor, whatever that means. >> >> When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in profits >> for every case of >> type II diabetes they can prevent, they will develop a strong interest >> in things like corn >> subsidies, local food systems, farmer=92s markets, school lunch, public >> health >> campaigns about soda, etc Cameron From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Sep 13 10:23:47 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <143706.48842.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How many of us know where the owners of all the businesses we patronize stand on the health care issue?? Do we know about the owner of the Jamaican restaurant where we are considering meeting with San Mateo? If Whole Foods were the only source of compostable plates and eating utensils. would that mean we couldn't have another Food 4 Thought event? If Congress passes a health bill without Single Payer or even a public option, can we go back to Whole Foods? For me, there's so much gray in this issue and so little black and white that I will continue patronizing Whole Foods just about as often as I always have--which is about once every three months, because it's so bleeping expensive. Caroline --- On Sun, 9/13/09, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: From: Cameron L. Spitzer Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:20 AM >From: Andrea Dorey >Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:15:58 -0700 >To: Jim Doyle >X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) >Cc: sosfbay discussion group >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects >Jim Doyle's [sic] rationale for continuing to shop at Whole Foods, much as? = >I agree with his logic, will NOT keep me from boycotting Whole Foods. >I am quite offended by the CEO's arrogance in proclaiming that a good? = >Andrea Nader has argued if you were serious about boycotting evildoers you'd have to withdraw from the modern economy.? I think it's a matter of degree.? You should withdraw from the parts that offend you most. I also think it's a mistake to think of Mackey as in control of Whole Foods and its behaviors.? The situations in food retailing and antitrust non-enforcement demanded that one company become "the Walmart of organic groceries."? There was a strong vacuum from that empty niche in the economy.? Whole Foods just happened to get there first and Mackey just happened to be CEO. >On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: >> asdfadf >> >> John Mackey=92s views on health care, much as I disagree with them, will >> not prevent >> me from shopping at Whole Foods. I believe the quote (below) by Jim is from Michael Pallan. He has a point.? Insurance companies broke the unanimous denialism among large corporations that the current climate change is manmade. Chink in the armor, whatever that means. >> >> When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in profits >> for every case of >> type II diabetes they can prevent, they will develop a strong interest >> in things like corn >> subsidies, local food systems, farmer=92s markets, school lunch, public >> health >> campaigns about soda, etc Cameron _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Sun Sep 13 17:28:02 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:28:02 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <8E1BE5C7-D196-4491-A598-8D42D5EB2139@cagreens.org> My problem is that he makes a profit from a business (food supply) that should not be a considered a human right to get. Not that HIS company has to do that, but that ANY supplier (such as nonprofits) should not have to supply the starving as a human right. The man has no compassion. The boycotters who implemented this, BTW, have long been debating doing this do to this guy's tactics against unions and other labor issues. Not a nice player, he is. For that reason as well, I decided that they (the boycotters) are right. And so have decided a few thousand others in our area. Andrea On Sep 13, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: >> From: Andrea Dorey >> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:15:58 -0700 >> To: Jim Doyle >> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) >> Cc: sosfbay discussion group >> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects > >> Jim Doyle's [sic] rationale for continuing to shop at Whole Foods, >> much as = >> I agree with his logic, will NOT keep me from boycotting Whole Foods. >> I am quite offended by the CEO's arrogance in proclaiming that a >> good = >> Andrea > > Nader has argued if you were serious about boycotting evildoers > you'd have to withdraw from the modern economy. I think it's > a matter of degree. You should withdraw from the parts that > offend you most. > I also think it's a mistake to think of Mackey as in control > of Whole Foods and its behaviors. The situations in food retailing > and antitrust non-enforcement demanded that one company become > "the Walmart of organic groceries." There was a strong vacuum from > that empty niche in the economy. Whole Foods just happened to > get there first and Mackey just happened to be CEO. > > >> On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > >>> asdfadf >>> >>> John Mackey=92s views on health care, much as I disagree with >>> them, will >>> not prevent >>> me from shopping at Whole Foods. > > I believe the quote (below) by Jim is from Michael Pallan. > He has a point. Insurance companies broke the unanimous > denialism among large corporations that the current climate change > is manmade. > Chink in the armor, whatever that means. > >>> >>> When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in >>> profits >>> for every case of >>> type II diabetes they can prevent, they will develop a strong >>> interest >>> in things like corn >>> subsidies, local food systems, farmer=92s markets, school lunch, >>> public >>> health >>> campaigns about soda, etc > > > > Cameron > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From wrolley at charter.net Mon Sep 14 09:27:34 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:27:34 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] gpscc cc meeting agenda In-Reply-To: <4AAC7AF0.200@sbcglobal.net> References: <4AAC7AF0.200@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4AAE6EF6.1020108@charter.net> A facebook group has been started that is aimed at convincing Van Jones to switch to the Green Party and run for governor. If people are serious about this, they need to make a very big impression... and that means a lot of numbers. Do Santa Clara County Greens want to weigh in? Jim Doyle wrote: > Do you have something yuou wish to have the county council discuss > at their next meeting, Sunday September 20-th? If so, email me your > suggestions. > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 14 10:31:37 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:31:37 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] gpscc cc meeting agenda items Message-ID: <4AAE7DF9.5040901@sbcglobal.net> Do you have something yuou wish to have the county council discuss at their next meeting, Sunday September 20-th? If so, email me your suggestions. Deadline is midnight Wednesday. Jim Doyle From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Sep 14 22:39:14 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:39:14 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: <8E1BE5C7-D196-4491-A598-8D42D5EB2139@cagreens.org> References: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> <8E1BE5C7-D196-4491-A598-8D42D5EB2139@cagreens.org> Message-ID: <4AAF2882.8010803@aceweb.com> For me boycotting whole paycheck is business as usual. They charge too much in my opinion. That's why I go to the farmers market for just about everything I can. Do the vendors provide health care? Probably not for many of them, but they work for themselves, which is good enough for me. I'm thinking what we should boycott is products that came off assembly lines. Whole Paycheck is full of that stuff, another reason to boycott them. Mountain View's Milk Pail Dairy has a good bulk food section. So does Molly Stones. Tian Andrea Dorey wrote: > My problem is that he makes a profit from a business (food supply) > that should not be a considered a human right to get. Not that HIS > company has to do that, but that ANY supplier (such as nonprofits) > should not have to supply the starving as a human right. The man has > no compassion. > > The boycotters who implemented this, BTW, have long been debating > doing this do to this guy's tactics against unions and other labor > issues. Not a nice player, he is. For that reason as well, I > decided that they (the boycotters) are right. And so have decided a > few thousand others in our area. > Andrea > > On Sep 13, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > >>> From: Andrea Dorey >>> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:15:58 -0700 >>> To: Jim Doyle >>> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) >>> Cc: sosfbay discussion group >>> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects >>> Jim Doyle's [sic] rationale for continuing to shop at Whole Foods, >>> much as = >>> I agree with his logic, will NOT keep me from boycotting Whole Foods. >>> I am quite offended by the CEO's arrogance in proclaiming that a >>> good = >>> Andrea >> Nader has argued if you were serious about boycotting evildoers >> you'd have to withdraw from the modern economy. I think it's >> a matter of degree. You should withdraw from the parts that >> offend you most. >> I also think it's a mistake to think of Mackey as in control >> of Whole Foods and its behaviors. The situations in food retailing >> and antitrust non-enforcement demanded that one company become >> "the Walmart of organic groceries." There was a strong vacuum from >> that empty niche in the economy. Whole Foods just happened to >> get there first and Mackey just happened to be CEO. >> >> >>> On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>> asdfadf >>>> >>>> John Mackey=92s views on health care, much as I disagree with >>>> them, will >>>> not prevent >>>> me from shopping at Whole Foods. >> I believe the quote (below) by Jim is from Michael Pallan. >> He has a point. Insurance companies broke the unanimous >> denialism among large corporations that the current climate change >> is manmade. >> Chink in the armor, whatever that means. >> >>>> When health insurers realize they will make thousands more in >>>> profits >>>> for every case of >>>> type II diabetes they can prevent, they will develop a strong >>>> interest >>>> in things like corn >>>> subsidies, local food systems, farmer=92s markets, school lunch, >>>> public >>>> health >>>> campaigns about soda, etc >> >> >> Cameron >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber duck. On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Sep 15 06:55:23 2009 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:55:23 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Loot the Metro Newspaper Boxes Message-ID: The new Metro comes out tomorrow. Please help harvest all the Metros from last week that you can. The cover story was about Richard Gage, AIA, the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, will make these Metros will make good freebies for Carol's "Truth and Cookies" table, and if she doesn't want them Richard can surely use them. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth now has 859 architects and engineers signed on calling for new 9/11 investigations. Richard Gage will be appearing in New Zealand and in three cities in Australia in November. Gage's upcoming seven-city tour of Japan in December is particularly exciting, because Yukihisa Fujita, a member of the Japanese Diet (Parliament), is an enthusiastic 9/11 truther and his Democratic Party of Japan just took control of the Diet and is expected to install its leader Yukio Hatoyama as Prime Minister imminently. The official reports about the World Trade Center are incomplete, dishonest, and unbelievable; and they fail to address the most baffling aspects of the towers' demise--the symmetry, rapidity, and totality of collapse. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll also have a big sign "Rice's Leadership: Lies, Torture, War Crimes" The hotel is at Cesar Chavez Plaza on Market near San Fernando. _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you health info from trusted sources. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergy&form=MHEINA&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Sep 15 14:14:07 2009 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:14:07 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fair Elections Act meetings in Palo Alto and Cupertino In-Reply-To: <4AAFFAAA.5080805@sonic.net> References: <4AAFFAAA.5080805@sonic.net> Message-ID: Palo Alto Working Group Third Wednesdays at 7:00pm (6:45 for introductory video) Unitarian Universalist Church 505 E. Charleston Rd., Palo Alto Agenda for Wednesday Sept. 16 in Palo Alto: 6:45 Introductory video 7:00 Meeting: Q&A on Fair Elections Act Debrief of Passion-Raiser --new coalition --next steps Endorsements: --Elected officials, groups --How to approach them --Who will approach who House parties Cupertino meeting Thursday, Sept. 17th 5-6pm (the video is shown at 5pm) Remax Realty, Suite 210 (second floor) 19200 Stevens Creek Blvd. Cupertino _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Tue Sep 15 15:36:15 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:36:15 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] gpscc cc meeting agenda In-Reply-To: <4AAE6EF6.1020108@charter.net> References: <4AAC7AF0.200@sbcglobal.net> <4AAE6EF6.1020108@charter.net> Message-ID: <27897A99-386C-4CF2-ABAE-044BE7009527@cagreens.org> Hmmm. Wes, this might be something useful we could do. Are there any "bugs" with him that we need to worry about? Otherwise, I know he's a savvy activist and hard worker. Andrea On Sep 14, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: > A facebook group has been started that is aimed at convincing Van > Jones > to switch to the Green Party and run for governor. If people are > serious about this, they need to make a very big impression... and > that > means a lot of numbers. > > Do Santa Clara County Greens want to weigh in? > > > > Jim Doyle wrote: >> Do you have something yuou wish to have the county council discuss >> at their next meeting, Sunday September 20-th? If so, email me your >> suggestions. >> >> Jim Doyle >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you > don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Tue Sep 15 15:41:48 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:41:48 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Please Loot the Metro Newspaper Boxes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You got the jump on me, Brian. I saw the article yesterday and was very impressed with the detail. It's one of the longest stories I've seen in the Metro. It's also beautifully illustrated. I also heard Carol's film festival praised on KPFA at least three times throughout the week before her event. It was great copy. Carol! Andrea On Sep 15, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Brian Good wrote: > > The new Metro comes out tomorrow. Please help harvest all > the Metros from last week that you can. The cover story was > about Richard Gage, AIA, the founder of Architects and Engineers > for 9/11 Truth, will make these Metros will make good freebies for > Carol's "Truth and Cookies" table, and if she doesn't want them > Richard can surely use them. > > Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth now has 859 architects > and engineers signed on calling for new 9/11 investigations. > Richard Gage will be appearing in New Zealand and in three cities > in Australia in November. > > Gage's upcoming seven-city tour of Japan in December is > particularly exciting, because Yukihisa Fujita, a member of > the Japanese Diet (Parliament), is an enthusiastic 9/11 truther > and his Democratic Party of Japan just took control of the Diet > and is expected to install its leader Yukio Hatoyama as Prime > Minister imminently. > > The official reports about the World Trade Center are incomplete, > dishonest, and unbelievable; and they fail to address the most > baffling aspects of the towers' demise--the symmetry, rapidity, > and totality of collapse. > > > > > > > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 15 19:42:21 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:42:21 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council agenda requests Message-ID: <4AB0508D.4010608@sbcglobal.net> Do you have something yuou wish to have the county council discuss at their next meeting, Sunday September 20-th? If so, email me your suggestions. Deadline is midnight Wednesday. Jim Doyle From ceteri at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 21:28:43 2009 From: ceteri at gmail.com (Paco NATHAN) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:28:43 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: <4AAF2882.8010803@aceweb.com> References: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> <8E1BE5C7-D196-4491-A598-8D42D5EB2139@cagreens.org> <4AAF2882.8010803@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <594a493b0909152128x5fe70e36y863926dfef901cce@mail.gmail.com> +1 for what Tian described I spent 18 years in Austin, watching Whole Foods grow from a small market literally around the corner from my place (the early 10th & Lamar store) into a large corporation. Knowing some of the execs, as well as several friends who'd worked there over the years... let's just say that Whole Paycheck management *aren't* the kind of people I'd want to have around my kids. Nor is Whole Foods any friend of organic, family-run farms. That was the "joke" around Austin, where there were so many CSAs within 50 miles of the WFM corporate headquarters building, the city-wide farmers market held each weekend literally two blocks away -- yet WFM barely paid lip service to recognizing, let alone helping support them. Foodies in Austin who want an upscale market with great organic foods don't go to WFM as much, instead they tend to shop at Central Market -- another large corporation, but *much* better organic produce, better support for local farmers, stronger commitment to minimizing packaging, composting refuse, etc. When a group of organic consumers, organic farmers, and farm workers recently petitioned WFM regarding their use of GMOs, their inclusion of known carcinogens and toxins in their "natural" personal care products, WFM threatened to sue the Organic Consumers Association. Read the following: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19057.cfm http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/642/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27761 The dirty little secret is that WFM has been caught, not just once, lobbying along with factory farms to get "organic" labeling deregulated, etc., and therefore placing pressure to displace family farms. Boycott or not, I have no need to support jerks like that, particularly when I get better produce delivered closer for less expense... If you want to support organic farmers, a great way is to visit farmers markets or join a CSA. Our family subscribes to Two Small Farms in Watsonville, which delivers locally here in Mountain View. It's absolutely wonderful. Local, seasonal, organic foods, with emphasis on cultivating public interest in many heirloom varieties. http://twosmallfarms.com/ If you don't need all that much weekly produce, then consider sharing or bartering what's left in your CSA box with neighbors. That's a great way to make friends :) What we don't get from the CSA, then Milk Pail is nearby and also a very good market. Paco On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 22:39, Tian Harter wrote: > For me boycotting whole paycheck is business as usual. They charge > too much in my opinion. That's why I go to the farmers market for just > about everything I can. Do the vendors provide health care? Probably > not for many of them, but they work for themselves, which is good enough > for me. > > I'm thinking what we should boycott is products that came off assembly > lines. Whole Paycheck is full of that stuff, another reason to boycott > them. Mountain View's Milk Pail Dairy has a good bulk food section. > So does Molly Stones. > > Tian From eameece at sfo.com Tue Sep 15 23:22:07 2009 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:22:07 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: <594a493b0909152128x5fe70e36y863926dfef901cce@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us><8E1BE5C7-D196-4491-A598-8D42D5EB2139@cagreens.org> <4AAF2882.8010803@aceweb.com> <594a493b0909152128x5fe70e36y863926dfef901cce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I know that Whole Foods has driven the local natural food stores out of business. But I'm sorry, what is a "CSA"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paco NATHAN" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects > +1 for what Tian described > > I spent 18 years in Austin, watching Whole Foods grow from a small > market literally around the corner from my place (the early 10th & > Lamar store) into a large corporation. Knowing some of the execs, as > well as several friends who'd worked there over the years... let's > just say that Whole Paycheck management *aren't* the kind of people > I'd want to have around my kids. > > Nor is Whole Foods any friend of organic, family-run farms. That was > the "joke" around Austin, where there were so many CSAs within 50 > miles of the WFM corporate headquarters building, the city-wide > farmers market held each weekend literally two blocks away -- yet WFM > barely paid lip service to recognizing, let alone helping support > them. > > Foodies in Austin who want an upscale market with great organic foods > don't go to WFM as much, instead they tend to shop at Central Market > -- another large corporation, but *much* better organic produce, > better support for local farmers, stronger commitment to minimizing > packaging, composting refuse, etc. > > When a group of organic consumers, organic farmers, and farm workers > recently petitioned WFM regarding their use of GMOs, their inclusion > of known carcinogens and toxins in their "natural" personal care > products, WFM threatened to sue the Organic Consumers Association. > Read the following: > http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19057.cfm > http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/642/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27761 > > The dirty little secret is that WFM has been caught, not just once, > lobbying along with factory farms to get "organic" labeling > deregulated, etc., and therefore placing pressure to displace family > farms. > > Boycott or not, I have no need to support jerks like that, > particularly when I get better produce delivered closer for less > expense... > > If you want to support organic farmers, a great way is to visit > farmers markets or join a CSA. Our family subscribes to Two Small > Farms in Watsonville, which delivers locally here in Mountain View. > It's absolutely wonderful. Local, seasonal, organic foods, with > emphasis on cultivating public interest in many heirloom varieties. > http://twosmallfarms.com/ If you don't need all that much weekly > produce, then consider sharing or bartering what's left in your CSA > box with neighbors. That's a great way to make friends :) What we > don't get from the CSA, then Milk Pail is nearby and also a very good > market. > > Paco > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 22:39, Tian Harter wrote: >> For me boycotting whole paycheck is business as usual. They charge >> too much in my opinion. That's why I go to the farmers market for just >> about everything I can. Do the vendors provide health care? Probably >> not for many of them, but they work for themselves, which is good enough >> for me. >> >> I'm thinking what we should boycott is products that came off assembly >> lines. Whole Paycheck is full of that stuff, another reason to boycott >> them. Mountain View's Milk Pail Dairy has a good bulk food section. >> So does Molly Stones. >> >> Tian > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From ceteri at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 23:44:52 2009 From: ceteri at gmail.com (Paco NATHAN) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:44:52 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: References: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> <8E1BE5C7-D196-4491-A598-8D42D5EB2139@cagreens.org> <4AAF2882.8010803@aceweb.com> <594a493b0909152128x5fe70e36y863926dfef901cce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <594a493b0909152344q3bcc13a8w548a9acaa9d1a5b3@mail.gmail.com> Hi Eric, Good point, I should have described more about CSAs. That acronym stands for "community sponsored agriculture". Here are a couple of good links: http://www.localharvest.org/csa/ http://www.localdirt.com/ For less than we'd spend at grocery stores on fresh veggies (we like to cook), we subscribe to a local CSA. Every week they bring a truck to some particular locations near us (we live in MV) and swap our empty box from last week, with one full of veggies, herbs, fruits, flowers, etc. I've seen other CSAs which include products made from their farm produce: jams/jellies, herbal soaps, cheeses. The idea is that people develop relationships directly with the farmers. Then the buying/selling of food becomes more than just a financial transaction, it's a kind of shared risk, and two-way learning. The farmers get to know the people eating their food, and understand more about what the people in a particular community need. The subscribers (like our family) learn more about local, seasonal foods -- how to cook what's ripening this week, how to preserve whatever is in oversupply, what grows well historically in your community. For example, anybody here know why we don't get many local potatoes? They grow here, but not much commercially -- though they used to be. Our CSA rotates potatoes through, provides some *tasty* fingerlings, and had a great story about what happened to potato growers in our part of California. They also bring in a chef from SF to prepare recipes for whatever is harvested that week... I enjoyed similar farmer+chef pairings in Austin: Boggy Creek Farm there works with locals chefs (Jean-Luc Salles is probably the best known one) for events. Some events were "buy a ticket, learn to prepare fine meals from local foods, eat the food and drink the wine", others were charity benefits, and one was even a stage drama production (where the audience ate meals cooked by the performers). http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Food/Blogs/?oid=oid:696823 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 23:22, Eric A. Meece wrote: > I know that Whole Foods has driven the local natural food stores out of > business. > But I'm sorry, what is a "CSA"? From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Sep 16 01:07:30 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:07:30 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: References: <20090913162053.192146A935@truffula.sj.ca.us> <8E1BE5C7-D196-4491-A598-8D42D5EB2139@cagreens.org> <4AAF2882.8010803@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4AB09CC2.1070909@aceweb.com> A small operation that only has a few farmworkers that stay with the family for years and years can be MUCH better then the kind of growers that are totally industrial about it. Being a farmer is tough, and unless you have a lucrative crop like marijuana to bring up the $/acre average it's really very hard to get any money at all out of it. That's the same problem that drove the small farmers in the south to tobacco. I wish you had been there when this woman explained to me about the organic "wink wink" farmers of California's north coast. She always had plenty of weed to spread around at statewide Green Party meetings. I miss her... There are some farmers at the farmers market that do everything themselves. Literally, it's a family operation in those cases. It the Milk Pail progressive? Well, Judy that worked there for a very long time and might still do so was part of my Grandmother's church, and in '91 she was one of my biggest customers for MEND YOUR FUELISH WAYS stickers. I know that since then the original owner sold out to some Russians, and since then they have vastly expanded their direct from the wholesaler that gets stuff from who knows where vegetables. I know nothing about the politics of the new owners. They keep selling food for a living in what has to be an EXTREMELY competitive market, so they've got something going for their politics, pragmatically speaking. eden wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 21:39, Tian Harter wrote: >> For me boycotting whole paycheck is business as usual. They charge >> too much in my opinion. That's why I go to the farmers market for just >> about everything I can. Do the vendors provide health care? Probably >> not for many of them, but they work for themselves, which is good enough >> for me. > > I agree that going to Farmer's Markets and using CSAs are the > "correct" solution. But "... they work for themselves"? I don't think > that the farmworkers are usually considered as part of the "family". > >> Mountain View's Milk Pail Dairy has a good bulk food section. > > Are they "progressive"? > >> So does Molly Stones. > > I have boycotted Mollie Stone's ever since they stole the > California Avenue store from the Palo Alto CoOp, essentially nailing > the coffin on Coops for the last decade or two on the Peninsula. > > I agree with the NADER statement that boycotts should be very well > targeted or you'd have to become self-sufficient. > There are lots of places where you can get food. Mi Pueblo probably needs more of my food dollars. They are much closer than Whole Paycheck. Maybe I should go there more often. Yeah, I'm not boycotting anybody. I'm doing affirmative action on the Latino food stores. That's it! -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber duck. On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 16 02:44:57 2009 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <824126.52359.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I fully agree with Tian. Whole Foods has long been a symbol of class privilege and the fact that they are NOT local and in fact a detriment to local farmers is precisely why I have no sympathy for Whole Foods. -edward --- On Tue, 9/15/09, sosfbay-discuss-request at cagreens.org wrote: From: sosfbay-discuss-request at cagreens.org Subject: sosfbay-discuss Digest, Vol 49, Issue 21 To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 12:00 PM Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:39:14 +0000 From: Tian Harter Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] whole foods boycott side effects To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Message-ID: <4AAF2882.8010803 at aceweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed For me boycotting whole paycheck is business as usual. They charge too much in my opinion. That's why I go to the farmers market for just about everything I can. Do the vendors provide health care? Probably not for many of them, but they work for themselves, which is good enough for me. I'm thinking what we should boycott is products that came off assembly lines. Whole Paycheck is full of that stuff, another reason to boycott them. Mountain View's Milk Pail Dairy has a good bulk food section. So does Molly Stones. Tian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 16 09:18:58 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:18:58 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] kpfa candidates forum Message-ID: <4AB10FF2.5010502@sbcglobal.net> this from Akio Tanaka: To Santa Clara County Greens, There is a KPFA candidates forum this weekend in Milpitas. The one we had in San Rafael on Mon was well attended and lots of fun. Aki Sat Sep 19 11am ? 1pm Candidate Forum Milpitas South Bay/ - Milptas Library Community Room, 160 Main st. Milpitas/ From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 16 10:10:51 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:10:51 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] kpfa elections (2) Message-ID: <4AB11C1B.5030103@sbcglobal.net> I have received my ballot materials from KPFA and I have received a mailer slate from a group of candidates. Included in the group are Akio Tanaka who spoke to us at one of our meetings, Shara Ebenshade and Adam Hudson both of whom were recommended by Brian Good in an earlier posting. From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Sep 16 12:13:34 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:13:34 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Australian Green coming to San Francisco 9/25 - 10/10, seeks Green contacts] Message-ID: <4AB138DE.9010100@aceweb.com> Should we do something? If there is interest I could host a party or something... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [G-C-F] Australian Green coming to San Francisco 9/25 - 10/10,seeks Green contacts Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:09:50 -0700 From: Mike Feinstein To: cal-forum at cagreens.org Australian Green Miriam Solomon is currently in New York City until September 24th, then goes to San Francisco until October 10th. Miriam is the International Secretary, Australian Greens, plays an active role with the Asia-Pacific Green Network (AGPN) and was Co-convenor, Australian delegation, Global Greens Congress 2008. Miriam would love to meet with local Greens in both New York and San Francisco. Miriam is also helping organize the next APGN Congress, Friday April 30th to Sunday May 2nd at the Huashan Culture Park in Taipei, Taiwan http://www.greenparty.org.tw/english.php?itemid=1091 Please contact her at the email address above Thanks Mike -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber duck. On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Sep 16 16:31:48 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:31:48 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Enabling Electronic Medical Records in Developing Countries Message-ID: <4AB17564.2090002@aceweb.com> > > Tuesday, September 8th at 11:45 AM > > Lucky Gunasekara > > Enabling Electronic Medical Records in Developing Countries > > > Lucky Gunasekara is a second year Stanford medical student > and co-founder of FrontlineSMS:Medic, a team committed to > empowering community health workers in the developing world > using appropriate mobile technology. > > Lucky will be discussing their use of a free, open-source, short > message service (SMS) software package, Patient View - built on > a popular piece of free and open source software - FrontlineSMS, > for healthcare applications to vastly increase the access and usage > of electronic medical records by rural community health workers > and improve patient monitoring and follow up, with correspondent > health improvements. The system enables large-scale, two-way text > messaging using only a laptop, a GSM modem, and cell phones to > enable better patient management, electronic medical records via the > cell phone, cheap mobile diagnostics, and mapping of health services. > > Lucky will also be sharing his experiences this summer building a > 500-strong community health worker SMS program with the Clinton > HIV/AIDS Initiative, and plans to scale further in 2010 in Malawi and > Rwanda. As part of FrontlineSMS:Medic's Hope Phones campaign, > www.hopephones.org, Lucky is hoping each attendee brings one of > their old mobile phones to donate to be recycled for use by a clinic > overseas. Lucky began his talk by pointing out that there are 300,000,000 people with tuberculosis, AIDS, or malaria on this earth. Because of this, 11 million of them die preventable deaths every year. Many of those deaths occur in Africa, where large parts of the country have very little infrastructure of the kinds Americans are used to. He explained that because of the difficulties and expense, land lines are almost unobtainable there, but with $50 you can get a cell phone, some minutes, and the card that connects it to the available grid. Nokia is the leading provider there, and there is an adequately stocked supply chain all over the continent. Coverage is expanding rapidly. Lucky then explained that his parents are big in the cell phone business, so he grew up around the technology and came onto the scene with a surprisingly detailed understanding of the network and how it operates. When the tsunami devastated Indonesia his relatives in the area were hurt, so he did a fundraiser to help them in Boston, where he was at school. Over break he went back to see how they were doing, and he found out a lot about the health care system there. When he came back he wrote a ten page e-mail and sent it to Nokia's head of development, who sent back a polite "thanks for the idea but stay in school" type response. Lucky shelved it until he met Josh, a fellow Stanford student who was just back from doing health care work in South Africa and had lots of ideas about how to make things better there. They set about making a medical records system that is compatible with what works there, starting in Malawi. Since the health care system there is based around a volunteer community healthcare worker in each village, they designed and built a system that would work around that person's cell phone and the hospital in down's data center. The healthcare worker would input information into text messages and upload it when the phone smells network availability. Also the system does things like remind people to take their pills and go in for checkups. It is free and open source, making it very scalable. In the two years since they first went live, the system has grown very popular with the users. Now they are expanding coverage as fast as they can finance the growth. Malawi has about a quarter of the country on the system now, and there are some users in Cameroon, South Africa, and other places. A lot of the money for growth is coming from Clinton and organizations like the Gates Foundation. Since installing it, they have upgraded it to be the African version of a 9/11 system. Before that ambulances would occasionally grope around the countryside looking for people in trouble, but usually people too sick to walk to the hospital were sunk. Calling for help has made a huge difference, saving a lot of fuel and lives. Lucky is asking everybody that can to donate old cell phones, working or not, to the cause. Ones that can't be used directly will be mined for their Colton and other recyclables and the money used for the cause. Each cell phone donated gets five villages on the network. Visit hopephones.org to get a free mailing label to send them in with. UPS donates the shipping. During Q&A much more came up: Malawi is about the size of California, with a population of 11 million people. Livingston was the first european explorer of Malawi, and he exploited it to. Africans are developing igneous ways of exploiting minimal connect time for maximum information sharing. Things like dialing a phone and hanging up after a set number of rings to share a message. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber duck. On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". From jims at greens.org Wed Sep 16 15:17:08 2009 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:17:08 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Green Playwright Publishes Memoir Message-ID: <4AB163E4.2080706@greens.org> What follows is an ad for a new book by Glenn Hopkins. I'm forwarding this just because Glenn is such a joy to have around, being one of the most entertaining (and sometimes exasperating) Greens in the state. His original subject line for this message was: Fwd: homophobia still #1 reason for U.S.teen suicide so PLS REQUEST in libraries & bookstores Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sept.15, 2009 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: CONTACT Ernest Harding, Publisher Donatello Press Slim Volume Heartfelt, whimsical, tough writings framed in a person journal, Labor Day, 2004 through Easter, 2005 by Glenn Hopkins Philadelphia, PA ? Xlibris in cooperation with Donatello Press is pleased to announce the publication of *Slim Volume, *Trade Paperback; 219 pages; 978-1-4363-4870-6 Cloth Hardback; 217 pages; 978-1-4363-4871-3 Bisexual Los Angeles playwright, Green Party activist, muck-raker, educator, Methodist and ?Radical Faerie? Glenn Hopkins struts his stuff in a memoir first started in Austin, Texas forty years ago. 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You'll probably feel like Gerry Gardner of radio KCME, who said in her broadcast review of Hopkins' internationalist play *...all in the same boat *in 1989: /"...moments of genius...I can't stop thinking about it!"/ Hopkins? writing for the stage has been: ?outrageous...refreshing... intriguing... important...worthwhile.? *?The Daily Bruin * ORDER A COPY NOW! *ISBN13 (TP) *978-1-4363-4870-6* * *ISBN13 (HB) *978-1-4363-4871-3* * www.Xlibris.com Copyright ? 2009 Slim Volume - Glenn Hopkins All Rights Reserved. Designed by xlibris . We are seeking reviews, reissue, use of excerpts, orders, entrance to competitions, sale of movie rights. Ernest Harding Co-publisher and Artists' Representative (310) 478-7379 Please forward with same subject line. From andid at cagreens.org Wed Sep 16 18:19:53 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:19:53 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Australian Green coming to San Francisco 9/25 - 10/10, seeks Green contacts] In-Reply-To: <4AB138DE.9010100@aceweb.com> References: <4AB138DE.9010100@aceweb.com> Message-ID: Tian, yes, yes, yes!! Great idea! Does she have a place to stay in our Bay Area? Andrea On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > Should we do something? If there is interest I could host a party > or something... > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [G-C-F] Australian Green coming to San Francisco 9/25 - > 10/10,seeks Green contacts > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:09:50 -0700 > From: Mike Feinstein > To: cal-forum at cagreens.org > > Australian Green Miriam Solomon is currently in > New York City until September 24th, then goes to San Francisco until > October 10th. > > Miriam is the International Secretary, Australian Greens, plays an > active role with the Asia-Pacific Green Network (AGPN) and was > Co-convenor, Australian delegation, Global Greens Congress 2008. > > Miriam would love to meet with local Greens in both New York and San > Francisco. > > Miriam is also helping organize the next APGN Congress, Friday April > 30th to Sunday May 2nd at the Huashan Culture Park in Taipei, Taiwan > > http://www.greenparty.org.tw/english.php?itemid=1091 > > Please contact her at the email address above > > Thanks > > Mike > > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber > duck. > On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Sep 17 03:10:26 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 03:10:26 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Ds vs Rs, once more Message-ID: <4AB20B12.7070107@earthlink.net> Another great article about the differences between Ds and Rs: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/17 Gerry From rob.means at electric-bikes.com Thu Sep 17 09:57:16 2009 From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:57:16 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Letter on PRT published in the Milpitas Post In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00d601ca37b7$e9865c00$6801a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Letters to the editor for the week of Sept. 17, 2009 Letter to the Editor Posted: 09/16/2009 02:45:34 PM PDT Get on the PRT Dear Editor, After reading Mr. Ruth's letter in last week's Post, I thought to myself "Get that man on the PRT team!" Every good team needs a Devil's advocate. Mr. Ruth is asking the right questions. Some of them are answered online at http:// snipurl.com/rqoiw. Among the issues raised by Mr. Ruth is "visual intrusion." As technology has evolved, we have introduced various forms of "visual intrusion" including telegraph lines, railroad lines, overhead telephone and power wires, roads, freeways, airports and elevated LRT lines. (The intrusion of the road in front of my home goes beyond the mere visual when a stinking diesel-powered truck drives past leaving a deadly plume of stench behind.) Because a PRT guideway is relatively small (about 3 feet by 3 feet) and routing is very flexible, many locations can be found in Milpitas where the visual intrusion is offset by the value it provides the neighborhood through which it runs. Mr. Ruth also comments, "In my research, the overriding issue is cost." In my many years of study and experience, the overriding issue is politics. Most politicians and organizations are quite conservative and won't do something unless others have already done it. Thus we have our chicken-and-egg problem: cities are willing to consider PRT after others have done it first, but no city wants to be first. Cost isn't really an issue for those of us who can count. For example, light rail (LRT) currently costs Advertisement Click Here! about $60 million per bi-directional (both ways) mile, while PRT appears to cost about $20 million per bi-directional mile. If, VTA had spent their money on PRT to move people around instead of LRT, we could have three times as many transit miles enough to include a loop that serves the Sunnyhills neighborhood. Many in that neighborhood must rely on infrequent and intermittent bus service to access regional transit (LRT and proposed BART) three miles away. Cost isn't really an issue for the proposed railroad crossing either. Years ago, VTA offered us $2.4 million toward the cost of a $3-million steel-and-concrete pedestrian over crossing of the tracks. I'm sure they would be willing to provide 80 percent of the estimated $3 million for a PRT crossing at the same location. In fact, since we would be doing some ground breaking work on PRT, they might be willing to pick up 90 percent or more of the costs. I believe that the Milpitas City Council should be rewarded by VTA for taking the risk of being the first politicians no, elected representatives to step forward on behalf of an innovative energy-efficient technology. And how about some environmental foundation making a contribution to this endeavor? Mr. Ruth starts his letter with the same question I want to end with: "Is this good for Milpitas?" Although I believe the answer is "yes," a frank and public discussion of the topic is needed so our representatives know what Milpitans believe and want. Thank you, Mr. Ruth, for starting that discussion. -Rob Means, Yellowstone Avenue From wrolley at charter.net Thu Sep 17 11:44:18 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:44:18 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Letter on PRT published in the Milpitas Post In-Reply-To: <00d601ca37b7$e9865c00$6801a8c0@INTERBIKE06> References: <00d601ca37b7$e9865c00$6801a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Message-ID: <4AB28382.2020102@charter.net> Rob Means wrote: Another good letter. Also, KTVU did a story on PRT last night in the feature spot... just after 10:30. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20957931/detail.html *MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. -- *A new concept in commuting may be gaining momentum. The idea involves personal pod-cars or PRT's that offer on-demand non-stop transportation in a system called ULTRA.The idea was floated at Mountain View City Hall Wednesday night before a transportation subcommittee.Proponents suggested people to imagine riding in battery-powered self-driving cars on elevated guideways from the train station to the city's biggest business park. etc. Since Mountain View is a center for Greens, we should be following this closely. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From andid at cagreens.org Thu Sep 17 17:52:06 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:52:06 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Ds vs Rs, once more In-Reply-To: <4AB20B12.7070107@earthlink.net> References: <4AB20B12.7070107@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7EE538BF-437A-45C9-9884-600605D80FBA@cagreens.org> Thanks for sharing, Gerry. Another winner from CommonDreams. And, once again, the views expressed will be touted and feted because they were not said and repeated by Nader who has never deviated from this understanding of our creaky, ancient, unequal, biased, race- hating, woman-denigrating democracy (definitely with a small "d"). How quickly we ("bewildered herd") Americans forget, so we don't have to feel the pain of regret. Andrea On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:10 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > Another great article about the differences between > Ds and Rs: > > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/17 > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Sep 18 09:28:14 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: HMOs:--- Death Panels Message-ID: <832837.55114.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 9/18/09, shane que hee wrote: From: shane que hee Subject: HMOs:--- Death Panels To: Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 5:14 AM ? > Subject: Real 'Norma Rae' dies of cancer after insurer delayed treatment ? > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 12:06 AM > Real 'Norma Rae' dies of cancer after > insurer delayed > treatment > > Facing South - Sept. 15, 2009 > The Institute for Southern Studies > "A New Voice for a Changing South" > > The North Carolina union organizer who was the > inspiration for the movie "Norma Rae" died on Friday of > brain cancer after a battle with her insurance company, > which delayed her treatment. She was 68. > > Crystal Lee Sutton, formerly Crystal Lee Jordan, was > fired from her job folding towels at the J.P. Stevens > textile plant in her hometown of Roanoke Rapids, N.C. > for trying to organize a union in the early 1970s. Her > last action at the plant -- writing the word "UNION" on > a piece of cardboard and standing on her work table, > leading her co-workers to turn off their machines in > solidarity -- was memorialized in the 1979 film by > actress Sally Field. The police physically removed > Sutton from the plant for her action. > > But her efforts ultimately succeeded, as the > Amalgamated Clothing Workers won the right to represent > the plant's employees on Aug. 28, 1974. Sutton later > became a paid organizer for the union, which through a > series of mergers became part of UNITE HERE before > splitting off this year to form Workers United, which > is affiliated with the Service Employees International > Union. > > Several years ago, Sutton was diagnosed with > meningioma, a type of cancer of the nervous system. > While such cancers are typically slow-growing, Sutton's > was not -- and she went two months without potentially > life-saving medication because her insurance wouldn't > cover it initially. Sutton told the Burlington (N.C.) > Times-News last year that the insurer's behavior was an > example of abuse of the working poor: > >???? "How in the world can it take so long to find > out >???? [whether they would cover the medicine or > not] when >???? it could be a matter of life or death," she > said. >???? "It is almost like, in a way, committing > murder." > > Though Sutton eventually received the medication, the > cancer had already taken hold. She passed away on > Friday, Sept. 11 in a Burlington, N.C. hospice. > > "Crystal Lee Sutton was a remarkable woman whose brave > struggles have left a lasting impact on this country > and without doubt, on me personally," Field said in a > statement released Friday. "Portraying Crystal Lee in > 'Norma Rae,' however loosely based, not only elevated > me as an actress, but as a human being." > > Field won an Oscar, a Golden Globe and the Best Actress > award at the Cannes Film Festival for her portrayal of > the character based on Sutton. The film in turn was > based on the 1975 book "Crystal Lee: A Woman of > Inheritance" by New York Times reporter Henry P. "Hank" > Leiferman. > > Sutton was only 17 when she began working at the J.P. > Stevens plant in northeastern North Carolina, where > conditions were poor and the pay was low. A > Massachusetts-based company that for many years was > listed on the Fortune 500, J.P. Stevens is now part of > the WestPoint Home conglomerate. > > In 1973, Sutton, by then a mother of three, was earning > only $2.65 an hour. That same year, Eli Zivkovich, a > former coal miner from West Virginia, came to Roanoke > Rapids to organize the plant and began working with > Sutton, who was fired after she copied a flyer posted > by management warning that blacks would run the union. > It was that incident which led Sutton to stand up with > her "UNION" sign. > > "It is not necessary I be remembered as anything, but I > would like to be remembered as a woman who deeply cared > for the working poor and the poor people of the U.S. > and the world," she said in a newspaper interview last > year. 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The memo did warn of upcoming attacks. The widows came to call her "Kindaliesalot Rice". The widows gave the 9/11 Commission 300 questions. They only got 27 answers. They gave Condi 65 questions and got 7 answers. There were warnings from 13 foreign countries, 3 FBI offices and the CIA. The UK, Germany, Italy, and Egypt specifically warned of aircraft as weapons. Russia warned of suicide pilots. Jordan and the Cayman Islands warned of attacks involving airlines. France, the UAE, Taliban, India, and Argentina also warned. Israel warned of 19 terrorists inside the USA planning something big, and even named at least 4 of the alleged hijackers. 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We need to let KTVU management know that someone listened and that we appreciate the coverage. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 19 06:51:30 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:51:30 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Nader writes a fiction novel Message-ID: <4AB4E1E2.1040305@earthlink.net> Title: "Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us!" About how a small group of wealthy people start a progressive turnaround of the country. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/19 Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 19 11:22:21 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:22:21 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county council meeting Message-ID: <4AB5215D.1060801@sbcglobal.net> The county council will be meeting Sunday starting at 3 pm to discuss revisions to the general meeting, literature, tabling, fundraising, recruiting, green building, Sunnyvale election, Van Jones, regional representative, clean money, and fppc filings. Jim Doyle P.S. 323 N Murphy in Sunnyvale between Arques and Maude From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 19 19:50:54 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:50:54 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Nonviolent disobediance to Nazis Message-ID: <4AB5988E.3000807@earthlink.net> According to this article, it worked: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/19-0 Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Sep 20 20:30:52 2009 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:30:52 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows Message-ID: See her testimony on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrgeuLb3dQ Condi told the 9/11 Commission and the 9/11 Widows that the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo did not warn of upcoming attacks. The memo did warn of upcoming attacks. The widows came to call her "Kindaliesalot Rice". The widows gave the 9/11 Commission 300 questions. They only got 27 answers. They gave Condi 65 questions and got 7 answers. There were warnings from 13 foreign countries, 3 FBI offices and the CIA. The UK, Germany, Italy, and Egypt specifically warned of aircraft as weapons. Russia warned of suicide pilots. Jordan and the Cayman Islands warned of attacks involving airlines. France, the UAE, Taliban, India, Morocco, and Argentina also warned. Israel warned of 19 terrorists inside the USA planning something big, and even named at least 4 of the alleged hijackers. The video also provides support for the report in the German press that the August 6 PDB was actually 11-1/2 pages long, not the 1-1/2 pages we have been shown. _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Sep 21 14:57:35 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:57:35 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Govt Investigates Health Insurer Message-ID: <4AB7F6CF.7020604@earthlink.net> "Gov't Investigates Health Insurance Company Mailer" "WASHINGTON - The government is investigating a major insurance company for allegedly trying to scare seniors with a mailer warning they could lose important benefits under health care legislation in Congress." http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/21-7 Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 21 17:28:28 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:28:28 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bay Area Climate Collaborative Message-ID: <4AB81A2C.8020608@sbcglobal.net> County Supervisor Yeager has been confirmed as a member of the ARB - Air Resources Board. One part of his statement to the state senate committee during confirmation hearings was For example, the Bay Area Climate Collaborative, BACC, a partnership of local government and business and industry groups in the Bay Area, has a goal of training and placing 20,000 workers in the green collar labor force by the end of 2013. The web site for the BACC is http://svlg.net/campaigns/bacc/ As a part of our awareness tracking that group could prove beneficial. Jim Doyle From cbrouillet at igc.org Tue Sep 22 09:15:34 2009 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:15:34 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Report on the 9/11 Film Festival Message-ID: I know that I have been missing a lot of meetings, but I have felt a great amount of responsibility for the events of the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance, which I've been organizing. I posted a report on our film festival at- http://www.911blogger.com/node/21374 and one on my website at- http://www.communitycurrency.org/report2009ff.html. It's quite long with photos.Here are links to the press coverage of our events (plus the 2 major breaking 9/11 news stories that just came out). Media Coverage of the events (so far): No Lies Radio- Archives of the live coverage of the speakers- http://noliesradio.org/archives/5358 KPFA - Bonnie Faulkner interviews Eric Nadler on Guns and Butter- http://www.kpfa.org/guns-and-butter-anthrax-wars-investigative-journalis... SF Gate- http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/inoakland/author?blogid=123&auth=409 Truthers converge on Grand Lake Theater http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/MVPN199QQT.D... Films about 9/11 OaklandNorth.net- http://oaklandnorth.net/2009/09/09/911-film-festival-brings-truthers-to-... 9/11 Film Festival brings truthers to Grand Lake Theater http://oaklandnorth.net/2009/09/10/up-close-with-moviegoers-filmmaker-at... Up Close with moviegoers, filmmaker at 9/11 film festival East Bay Express- http://www.eastbayexpress.com/events/5th_annual_9_11_film_festival/Event... Critic's Choice- 5th Annual 9/11 Film Festival http://www.eastbayexpress.com/artsculture/an_inside_job/Content?oid=1194... An Inside Job Members of the 9/11 "Truth" movement are typically disparaged as crackpots. In fact, they're actually wonks. San Francisco Bay Guardian- http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=9107 Alerts- 9/11 Film Festival http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/politics/2009/09/remembering_and_forgetting_91... Remembering -- and forgetting -- 9/11 Breakthrough Coverage- Silicon Valley Metro Cover Story- [] http://www.metroactive.com/metro/09.09.09/cover-0936.html Santa Barbara Independent Cover Story- [] http://www.independent.com/news/2009/sep/17/twin-towers-twin-myths/ The hit pieces- SF Weekly- http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/08/9-11_truther_film_festival_b... 9/11 Truther Film Festival Brought To You By ... The San Francisco Bay Guardian? http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/last_night/ Movie Night With the 9/11 Truthers -- Conspiracy Theories, Bad Music, and, Hey! Free Popcorn! http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/09/versus_whos_crazier_--_birth... Versus: Who's Crazier -- Birthers or Truthers? (David Ray Griffin and Peter Phillip's speeches have also been widely posted) David's- http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15201 Peter's- http://www.911blogger.com/node/21317 Fox National News did phone me and tried to confirm that Van Jones was part of the original organizing committee to demand a congressional investigation of 9/11 back in January 2002. I clarified that he had nothing to do with it- and that it was just a mistake of a right wing blogge connecting two separate articles about two separate events, but I think the intention of the attack on Van Jones was to scare all politicians into silence on the issue of 9/11, which is backfiring. 911Truth.org is getting more hits and support than ever, and more people are speaking out, and the official story is really almost officially dead. Carol Brouillet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Sep 22 20:41:13 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:41:13 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Sat. at 9:45PM in San Francisco see CRUDE: The Real Price of Oil Message-ID: <4AB998D9.5070304@aceweb.com> Dear CounterCorp supporters, This is just a quick update to let you know that the benefit screening of "CRUDE: The Real Price of Oil", the San Francisco theatrical premiere of a powerful new documentary about the career criminals at Chevron Corporation, takes place this Saturday, Sept. 26, at 9:45 at the Lumber Theater, 1572 California Street (at Polk Street) in the city. Three years in the making, CRUDE is an epic story of one of the largest and most important legal cases in history, which has the potential of forever changing the way international business is conducted. While the environmental impact of the consumption of fossil fuels has been increasingly documented in recent years, CRUDE focuses on the human cost of our addiction to oil and the increasingly difficult task of holding a major corporation accountable for its past deeds. The landmark case pits 30,000 inhabitants of the Amazon rainforest of Ecuador against the mammoth U.S. oil corporation. The plaintiffs charge that Chevron (corporate successor to Texaco, which it bought in 2001) spent three decades systematically contaminating one of the most biodiverse regions on Earth, poisoning the water, air, and land. This has created a "death zone" the size of the Rhode Island, resulting in increased rates of cancer, leukemia, birth defects, and a multitude of other serious health problems. Chevron claims the case is a complete fabrication by "environmental con men" seeking to line their pockets with some of the company's billions in annual profits. Shooting in dozens of locations on three continents and in multiple languages, acclaimed filmmaker Joe Berlinger ("Paradise Lost", "Brothers Keeper", "Metallica: Some Kind of Monster") and his crew gained extraordinary access to players on all sides of the fight and beyond, capturing the drama that unfolded as the case grew from a little-known legal case to an international cause celebrate. The case (and the film) have special relevance for the Bay Area: Chevron is headquartered in nearby San Ramon, the site of numerous demonstrations over the past year -- and in the coming year, as environmental and anti-corporate activists ramp up the pressure on Chevron to clean up its act, both literally and figuratively. Director Joe Berlinger will be at the screening and will do a Q&A afterward. The 9:45 screening on Saturday is a benefit for the 5th Annual CounterCorp Anti-Corporate Film Festival, which takes place in May 2010, and includes seating in a reserved section of the theater. PLEASE NOTE: To guarantee a reserved seat and support CounterCorp, you must buy your tickets either online at or at the theater *from a CounterCorp representative* -- tickets purchased at the box office do NOT benefit CounterCorp. For more information, e-mail events at countercorp.org or call (415) 568-5739. We look forward to seeing you there ... And thanks as always for your support and participation in CounterCorp events -- we couldn't do any of this without you! # # # CounterCorp: Putting An End to Business as Usual 5th Annual Anti-Corporate Film Festival, May 2010 www.countercorp.org Get the latest CounterCorp event details on your computer/ iPod: webcal://icalx.com/public/CounterCorp/CounterCorp.ics Subscribe to CounterCorp's "Corporation Watch" e-mail list: For more information, visit http://www.corporationwatch.org Donate to CounterCorp by selecting us on the drop-down menu at https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/index.php?id=695 -- Tian http://tian.greens.org On a window sill of Mountain View's city hall sits a yellow rubber duck. On the breast of the duck is this black text: "City of Mountain View". From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Sep 22 23:05:03 2009 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:05:03 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Adam Hudson Running for KPFA LSB Message-ID: He proposes outreach to youth and communities of color, and increased internet presence. http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/stanford-student-activist-runs-for-kpfa-local-station-board/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! Don?t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is also another example of why pushing lawsuits through the courts is *not* the way to change the world. The process is just too slow when people are dying from the effects of parasitic big business.? Alex Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 23 09:09:12 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:09:12 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Good Article about global warming Message-ID: <4ABA4828.8030601@earthlink.net> I think this is a better than normal article about global warming. I learned a few new things from it. "Collapse or Survive: The Stark Choice Facing Our Species We all know what has to happen. But are we too primitive and irrational to do it?" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/23 Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Wed Sep 23 09:55:36 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:55:36 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Good Article about global warming In-Reply-To: <4ABA4828.8030601@earthlink.net> References: <4ABA4828.8030601@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4ABA5308.3030507@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Wed Sep 23 16:12:01 2009 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:12:01 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Anti death penalty resolution for SCCCADP Message-ID: <20090923.161201.11932.2@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, Caroline's notes from the GPSCC meeting on September 2 said that we agreed to the anti death penalty resolution drafted by the Santa Clara County Coalition for Alternatives to the Death Penalty. Does anyone on this list know if someone was assigned to fill out the resolution on our behalf and return it to the coalition? Or did the folks at the meeting want me to do that? The coalition has not received the resolution as of today. The next coalition meeting is next Tuesday, and it would be nice to get this resolved before then. Thanks, Valerie Face ____________________________________________________________ Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYa66Z7MDqConvkLncihRWAa1GyW1gh64nBC6zXQRPzCXus2tmI/ From andid at cagreens.org Wed Sep 23 16:15:12 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:15:12 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Report on the 9/11 Film Festival In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C44A240-9E07-45F5-B269-F4BA7B9A0346@cagreens.org> Your priorities are exactly right. Kudos on your impressive work on the festival and the publicity you generated! I have an extra hardcopy of Metro to give to you in case you need some brag copies. Best always, Andrea On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:15 AM, Carol Brouillet wrote: > I know that I have been missing a lot of meetings, but I have felt > a great amount of responsibility for the events of the Northern > California 9/11 Truth Alliance, which I've been organizing. I > posted a report on our film festival at- http://www. > 911blogger.com/node/21374 and one on my website at- http:// > www.communitycurrency.org/report2009ff.html. It's quite long with > photos.Here are links to the press coverage of our events (plus the > 2 major breaking 9/11 news stories that just came out). > > Media Coverage of the events (so far): > > No Lies Radio- > Archives of the live coverage of the speakers- http:// > noliesradio.org/archives/5358 > > KPFA - > Bonnie Faulkner interviews Eric Nadler on Guns and Butter- > http://www.kpfa.org/guns-and-butter-anthrax-wars-investigative- > journalis... > > SF Gate- > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/inoakland/author? > blogid=123&auth=409 > Truthers converge on Grand Lake Theater > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/27/ > MVPN199QQT.D... > Films about 9/11 > > OaklandNorth.net- > http://oaklandnorth.net/2009/09/09/911-film-festival-brings- > truthers-to-... > 9/11 Film Festival brings truthers to Grand Lake Theater > > http://oaklandnorth.net/2009/09/10/up-close-with-moviegoers- > filmmaker-at... > Up Close with moviegoers, filmmaker at 9/11 film festival > > East Bay Express- > http://www.eastbayexpress.com/events/5th_annual_9_11_film_festival/ > Event... > Critic's Choice- 5th Annual 9/11 Film Festival > > http://www.eastbayexpress.com/artsculture/an_inside_job/Content? > oid=1194... > An Inside Job > Members of the 9/11 "Truth" movement are typically disparaged as > crackpots. In fact, they're actually wonks. > > San Francisco Bay Guardian- > http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=9107 > Alerts- 9/11 Film Festival > > http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/politics/2009/09/ > remembering_and_forgetting_91... > Remembering -- and forgetting -- 9/11 > > Breakthrough Coverage- > > Silicon Valley Metro Cover Story- > > http://www.metroactive.com/metro/09.09.09/cover-0936.html > > Santa Barbara Independent Cover Story- > > http://www.independent.com/news/2009/sep/17/twin-towers-twin-myths/ > > The hit pieces- > > SF Weekly- > http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/ > 2009/08/9-11_truther_film_festival_b... > 9/11 Truther Film Festival Brought To You By ... The San Francisco > Bay Guardian? > > http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/last_night/ > Movie Night With the 9/11 Truthers -- Conspiracy Theories, Bad > Music, and, Hey! Free Popcorn! > > http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/09/versus_whos_crazier_-- > _birth... > Versus: Who's Crazier -- Birthers or Truthers? > > (David Ray Griffin and Peter Phillip's speeches have also been > widely posted) > David's- http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15201 > Peter's- http://www.911blogger.com/node/21317 > > Fox National News did phone me and tried to confirm that Van Jones > was part of the original organizing committee to demand a > congressional investigation of 9/11 back in January 2002. I > clarified that he had nothing to do with it- and that it was just a > mistake of a right wing blogge connecting two separate articles > about two separate events, but I think the intention of the attack > on Van Jones was to scare all politicians into silence on the issue > of 9/11, which is backfiring. 911Truth.org is getting more hits and > support than ever, and more people are speaking out, and the > official story is really almost officially dead. > > Carol Brouillet > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Wed Sep 23 17:19:56 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:19:56 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Water Lies Message-ID: <4ABABB2C.1060703@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 23 18:03:35 2009 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Feinstein hears from single-payer advocates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <53853.24873.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I recently got a response from Feinstein's office regarding her position on health insurance reform. The generic message was inspiring in a way, because it specifically addresses single-payer, which means that there are enough emails to her office to generate such a specific response. Check out what DiFi has to say: Dear?Mr. Chow:?Thank you for writing to me to express your support for a single payer option in healthcare reform legislation. I appreciate the time you took to write on this critical issue, and I welcome this opportunity to respond.?I am delighted that you support healthcare reform, as do I. The key is to find a healthcare plan that provides coverage, as well as limits costs. My colleagues in the Senate and I have been working on this, but it is a difficult issue and must be carefully thought out. I hope that when the Senate Committee on Finance considers a healthcare reform proposal, the Committee will pass a bill which will lay out a way in which we can accomplish these goals and can be effectively merged with the bill passed by the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.?I strongly believe that any healthcare reform legislation should prohibit coverage denial based on preexisting conditions. Reducing healthcare costs is absolutely essential. Between 2000 and 2007, combined profits for 10 of the country's largest publically traded insurance companies rose 428 percent. I believe that a way to control those costs is by instituting a public option, a nonprofit cooperative model, or a regulatory authority to achieve limit cost increases.?However, many Americans are happy with the coverage they have now, and I am concerned that a move to a single payer healthcare system would change the whole system. I believe that health reform should build on our employer-based system and the millions of Americans who are satisfied with their health coverage should be able to keep their benefits. Please know that I am working hard to make healthcare affordable for all Americans, and that I will keep your comments in mind as I continue to review healthcare reform proposals in the Senate.?Again, thank you for contacting me. If you should have any further comments or questions, please feel free to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841. Best regards. 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Blair Scott Socialism is bad! This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock, which is powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly that is regulated by the US Department of Energy and travels on national electric infrastructure. I then took a shower in clean water provided by the municipal water utility that was heated by my water heater that meets the safety requirements set forth by the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and other local municipalities. After my shower I turned on the T.V. to one of the many channels regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to see what the National Weather Service (NWS) of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) determined the weather was going to be by using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). I watched the weather while eating my breakfast with foods inspected by and deemed safe by the US Department of Agriculture (USDA). I then took my prescription drugs which have been determined as safe by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) approved automobile that also meets the safety standards of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation (DOT). I stop to purchase fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and use legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank to pay for it. On the way out the door I deposit my outgoing mail to be sent out via the US Postal Service (USPS) and then drop the kids off at the public school overseen by the Department of Education (DoE) in cooperation with local School Boards and State Boards of Education (SBOE). After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), I enjoy two more meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA/NTSB car back home on the DOT roads back to my house, which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal's inspection. My house was not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local Police Department. I then log on to the Internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration (DARPA) and post on freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can't do anything right. From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Sep 23 18:24:18 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Insurance and Equity in Primary Care and Specialist Office Visits Message-ID: <559544.3381.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 9/23/09, shane que hee wrote: From: shane que hee Subject: Insurance and Equity in Primary Care and Specialist Office Visits To: Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 1:47 PM Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:21:29 -0700 From: Don McCanne Subject: Insurance and Equity in Primary Care and Specialist Office Visits Annals of Family Medicine September/October 2009 Universal Health Insurance and Equity in Primary Care and Specialist Office Visits: A Population-Based Study By Richard H. Glazier, MD, MPH, Mohammad M. Agha, PhD, Rahim Moineddin, PhD and Lyn M. Sibley, PhD Universal coverage of physician services should serve to reduce socioeconomic disparities in care, but the degree to which a reduction occurs is unclear. We examined equity in use of physician services in Ontario, Canada, after controlling for health status using both self-reported and diagnosis-based measures. CONCLUSIONS After adjusting for health status, we found equity in contact with primary care for educational attainment but inequity in specialist contact, frequent visits, and bypassing primary care. In this setting, universal health insurance appears to be successful in achieving income equity in physician visits. This strategy alone does not eliminate education-related gradients in specialist care. http://www.annfammed.org/cgi/content/full/7/5/396 Comment:? Much of the discussion on health care reform centers around financing reform, with goals of achieving universality and affordability. Effective reform that would actually accomplish that (i.e., single payer) would be a crucial first step toward the even more important goal of reducing the socioeconomic disparities in care. The record on disparities in the United States is shameful. This study looks at inequities in a country that has already established an equitable, universal financing system for health care: Canada. Three important conclusions: 1) Physician visits for both primary care and specialists were equitable regardless of the income level of the patient, 2) Physician visits for primary care were equitable regardless of the level of the educational achievement of the patient, and 3) Patients with a higher level of educational achievement had greater contact with specialists, often bypassing primary care. Think of how Canada must struggle with this policy issue. They must determine whether more educated individuals are obtaining an excessive quantity of specialized services, or if those with less education are being deprived of specialized services they should have. Then they have to decide on policies that would improve access or reduce waste, as appropriate. Compare that to the policy issues we face in the United States. We have a financing system that creates personal financial hardships, results in physical suffering and sometimes even death, and wastes hundreds of billions of dollars that could be redirected to paying for health care services that people need and are not receiving. Canada has passed that hurdle long ago. Wouldn't it be nice if we could also be working on the minutiae of health policy instead of the most fundamental changes that we desperately need? Unfortunately, Congress, in moving forward with tweaking the private insurance industry, has decided to work on the minutiae and ignore the basics. 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That will be the final agenda item. So, if you want to know who to send agenda items to, read the minutes. We will also make a report from the County Council and a "state of the state party" report from the regional rep. be regular agenda items. ? We had a lengthy discussion about possibly endorsing a candidate for Sunnyvale City Council. We decided we don't have time to go through the proper process for this. ? Tabling materials. We need more half sheet contact information sheets, more IRV , Health Care, Peace, Marriage Equality, and Environmental specifics. Everyone agreed that the flyer Valerie made for the yard sale and picnic is great. We need a new one for upcoming activities.? Tian said we should have a flyer asking people to run for office. We have the De Anza peace bazaar and Junior State coming up. Tian will work on tabling items targeted for these events. ? Our Green builders Roy and Tim need work. Can we conjure up a project for them? Jim D. mentioned the solar panels being put on Milpitas schools. Tian said people are putting solar panels on parking garages in Mt. View. Could we try to drum up some business for them? ? We are almost breaking even. We have taken in $1600 and spent $1700. We don't have money for a mailing ($2500). If we started planning now. we? could get out a mailing by the June election. It has been suggested that we call people and ask for donations. Caroline refuses to do this, but she has committed to calling 100 people to get their email addresses. Perhaps if they realize how much a mailing would cost, they would be glad to give us their email addresses so we could advise them of upcoming events and issues. Drupal contains a list of registered Green from 2008. ? Jim S. said that if we go down to the Registrar of Voters every couple of months, they will give us contact information for new Greens. If we get them while they're fresh, perhaps we can get them involved. Some ideas for things they could do are: 1. attend local board meetings2.petitioning 3. make schwag 4. be involved in showing a film at the Peace Center. Brian will talk to Merriam about showing "Occupation 101". A recruit could be part of setting up, promoting, taking down. 5. Think up new projects, be involved with yard sale, Green Fair, Food 4 Thought. 6. Getting letters or notices of events into newspapers. ? We can go to one of Aiesha's film. See about when and where it is. Make sure some of us go. Jim D. will see about this. ? UPCOMING TABLING EVENTS REQUIRING COORDINATORS International peace bazaar at De Anza, November 19 Junior State --November 21 (no heavy lifting required) Peace Fair--Saturday, December 5 (no heavy lifting required) ? Upcoming vacancies on County Council and Regional Rep. Jim Doyle and Caroline will not be running, so we need more candidates. Tian will be the big "pusher" for getting people to run for cc.? Jim Stauffer wants us to find a candidate, because his term is up and he would like to leave office. ? We will be having a regional get-together with San Mateo on September 29. ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Sep 24 22:13:20 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:13:20 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Agenda item for next county meeting Message-ID: <4ABC5170.6070803@aceweb.com> I asked Eugene Bradley, who represents the VTA riders union to speak at our next county meeting about what is going on for his group. He said he would be glad to talk for ten minutes or so at the beginning of it. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Yesterday I saw Colin Beavin (No Impact Man) talk at IDEO in Palo Alto. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 25 13:30:20 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:30:20 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Climate Change politics Status Message-ID: <4ABD285C.8010202@earthlink.net> Hi, I need help!!! I would like to send an email to my Reps about the need to take strong action re global warming. I would like to make as strong a statment as possible. I believe that climate change is our #1 problem. I know that the 350 org (350.org) believes we need to go back to a CO2 level of 350 (and we are now at 380). I know that Al Gore made a proposal about changing our electricity infrasture to be fossil free within 10 years. I know that the U.S. did not ratify the Kyoto protocal. I know that recently (2 or 3 years ago?) the U.S. Senate considered about 5 climate change bills, all weak, but I don't know what they did with them. I don't know what proposals are being made now. I don't know what will happen at Copenhagen. I just heard Chomsky on KPFA refer to something said by Bill McKibben about something said by a Mr. Stern. apparently Bill McKibben said that 2009 is a crucial year re global warming. And therefore the Copenhagen meeting will be very important. Which apparently starts on Dec. 6, 2009, 72 days from now. http://www.erantis.com/events/denmark/copenhagen/climate-conference-2009/index.htm NOTE: Although I don't know what Chomsky is referring to, here is an item that is relevant: 'Bill McKibben Reviews "The Global Deal" by Nicholas Stern' http://www.progressivebookclub.com/blog/2009/05/31/bill-mckibben-reviews-the-global-deal-by-nicholas-stern/ I don't know anything about a Henry Waxman bill (referred to in the above item). So I am asking for whatever help you can provide in making the strongest possible statement to send to my political representatives. NOTE: At the moment I am considering sending this proposed statement to my U.S. Congresswoman, (Anna Eshoo), my 2 U.S. Senators, and the U.S. President. But I may send to others as seems appropriate. Thank you, Gerry P.S. I think it is appropriate to keep in mind George Lakoff's ideas about "The Political Mind", but what that means in practice, I have not yet learned. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 25 13:36:02 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:36:02 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Need help re Climate Change message Message-ID: <4ABD29B2.2020409@earthlink.net> Hi, I need help!!! I would like to send an email to my Reps about the need to take strong action re global warming. I would like to make as strong a statment as possible. I believe that climate change is our #1 problem. I know that the 350 org (350.org) believes we need to go back to a CO2 level of 350 (and we are now at 380). I know that Al Gore made a proposal about changing our electricity infrasture to be fossil free within 10 years. I know that the U.S. did not ratify the Kyoto protocal. I know that recently (2 or 3 years ago?) the U.S. Senate considered about 5 climate change bills, all weak, but I don't know what they did with them. I don't know what proposals are being made now. I don't know what will happen at Copenhagen. I just heard Chomsky on KPFA refer to something said by Bill McKibben about something said by a Mr. Stern. apparently Bill McKibben said that 2009 is a crucial year re global warming. And therefore the Copenhagen meeting will be very important. Which apparently starts on Dec. 6, 2009, 72 days from now. http://www.erantis.com/events/denmark/copenhagen/climate-conference-2009/index.htm NOTE: Although I don't know what Chomsky is referring to, here is an item that is relevant: 'Bill McKibben Reviews "The Global Deal" by Nicholas Stern' http://www.progressivebookclub.com/blog/2009/05/31/bill-mckibben-reviews-the-global-deal-by-nicholas-stern/ I don't know anything about a Henry Waxman bill (referred to in the above item). So I am asking for whatever help you can provide in making the strongest possible statement to send to my political representatives. NOTE: At the moment I am considering sending this proposed statement to my U.S. Congresswoman, (Anna Eshoo), my 2 U.S. Senators, and the U.S. President. But I may send to others as seems appropriate. Thank you, Gerry P.S. I think it is appropriate to keep in mind George Lakoff's ideas about "The Political Mind", but what that means in practice, I have not yet learned. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 25 13:38:15 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:38:15 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Sorry about 2 messages Message-ID: <4ABD2A37.7080000@earthlink.net> Oops, sorry about sending the same message twice. They are the same except the Subject line is more appropriate for the second email. Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 25 18:20:08 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:20:08 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] make a plan and do it Message-ID: <4ABD6C48.2020103@sbcglobal.net> Here is one after my own heart. The Greens of Arizona made a plan and executed it successfully. http://gp.org/greenpages-blog/?p=1277 From andid at cagreens.org Sat Sep 26 16:51:08 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:51:08 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Need help re Climate Change message In-Reply-To: <4ABD29B2.2020409@earthlink.net> References: <4ABD29B2.2020409@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <14F68B14-8CE0-4817-8858-66C22410D1E4@cagreens.org> Hi, Gerry, I heard Chomsky on Democracy Now, but I don't remember him making those statements. I also heard Nader discussing his new "fiction" book that discusses the reasons why the rich might want to join us to do the right thing about global warming, etc. Nader will be in town on Oct 16th, but I guess that is too late to get your global warming letter off to the recipients you listed. Interestingly, I heard someone on KALW 91.7, while discussing the challenges for progressives in this political climate, say that the Green Party did not support McKinney as they should have done and so lost their chance to make a meaningful difference in the outcome of the lst election. I had to laugh over that one. I guess he thinks we wasted McKinney the way I think we wasted Nader! We seem to lack the spine to stand up to the Demos (in particular) and feel collectively embarrassed and guilty about running SERIOUSLY against the two-party system. We have taken on the label "spoiler" just as the conservative framers wished us to do. And we seem unable to create the framing that voting for one of the majors is REALLY wasting one's vote, and that voting for any third party (we'd prefer Green) is a POWERFUL protest vote that adds up quickly when people are ALLOWED to believe in its power. Unfortunately we have too many enablers who opt for a future that denies power to third party votes, thereby crippling this strategy so severely that we don't even approach the results that the believer Matt Gonzales achieved in San Francisco?a personal success so amazingly close that it caused the sitting President and VP to personally visit The City to overcome his momentum. (The arguments by enablers against the chance of 3rd parties ever succeeding reminds me of the history of scoffing at anti-slavery politicos who were determined to win?and did!) Nader's move to try to stitch the 3rd parties together to form a powerful protest block was another interesting strategy that could have substantially damaged the win of the major parties. But, again, we Greens seemed unable to go with the flow by shaking hands across the minor parties' lines. We could have quilted together a platform of mutual agreement. Has anyone checked with the other minor parties to see what their take is on this latest move toward "clean" elections? Because we may have to form a stronger political block to have any impact on an issue, say, global warming. ??? Just wondering. Andrea On Sep 25, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > Hi, > > I need help!!! > > I would like to send an email to my Reps about the need > to take strong action re global warming. I would like > to make as strong a statment as possible. > > I believe that climate change is our #1 problem. > > I know that the 350 org (350.org) believes we need to go > back to a CO2 level of 350 (and we are now at 380). > > I know that Al Gore made a proposal about changing our > electricity infrasture to be fossil free within 10 years. > > I know that the U.S. did not ratify the Kyoto protocal. > > I know that recently (2 or 3 years ago?) the U.S. Senate > considered about 5 climate change bills, all weak, but > I don't know what they did with them. > > I don't know what proposals are being made now. > > I don't know what will happen at Copenhagen. > > I just heard Chomsky on KPFA refer to something said by > Bill McKibben about something said by a Mr. Stern. > apparently Bill McKibben said that 2009 is a crucial > year re global warming. And therefore the Copenhagen > meeting will be very important. Which apparently > starts on Dec. 6, 2009, 72 days from now. > http://www.erantis.com/events/denmark/copenhagen/climate- > conference-2009/index.htm > > NOTE: Although I don't know what Chomsky is referring to, > here is an item that is relevant: > 'Bill McKibben Reviews "The Global Deal" by Nicholas Stern' > http://www.progressivebookclub.com/blog/2009/05/31/bill-mckibben- > reviews-the-global-deal-by-nicholas-stern/ > > I don't know anything about a Henry Waxman bill (referred > to in the above item). > > So I am asking for whatever help you can provide in making > the strongest possible statement to send to my political > representatives. > > NOTE: At the moment I am considering sending this proposed > statement to my U.S. Congresswoman, (Anna Eshoo), my 2 U.S. > Senators, and the U.S. President. But I may send to others > as seems appropriate. > > Thank you, > > Gerry > > P.S. I think it is appropriate to keep in mind George > Lakoff's ideas about "The Political Mind", but what that > means in practice, I have not yet learned. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 26 22:26:45 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:26:45 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] acorn legislation Message-ID: <4ABEF795.6030804@sbcglobal.net> Here is a link to an article from the Dallas Liberal Examiner that picks apart the legislation that aims to cut off the funding of ACORN: *http://tinyurl.com/ybdljhe* From wrolley at charter.net Sun Sep 27 13:43:31 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:43:31 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Solar Energy Month Message-ID: <4ABFCE73.1080701@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Sep 28 17:23:44 2009 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:23:44 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] It could be that peak oil has already happened! Message-ID: <4AC15390.9090106@aceweb.com> Last Thursday in San Francisco's City Hall the city's Peak Oil Task Force presented their final report to the Supervisors and a cable TV audience. It was a good presentation, so I'm glad to share my take on it: http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/RossMirkarimi/PeakOilEvent/index.html The surprise for me was seeing a chart that said either peak oil has happened or at least peak of our oil consumption has happened. Either way, the cheap energy we can remember from the '70s, when we thought it was ridiculously expensive, aren't likely to come back. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest Change: Added Peak Oil report delivery show last Thursday in SF. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 28 21:14:04 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:14:04 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meeting agenda Message-ID: <4AC1898C.2070102@sbcglobal.net> It is time to submit agenda items for the October 7-th meeting. Review the plenary agenda as preparation for a discussion of some of the plenary's topics. Please note. We can save time at the meeting if announcements were posted to the discussion list ahead of time. Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 28 21:29:11 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:29:11 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary documents Message-ID: <4AC18D17.1020903@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. The logistics packet for the Oct. 10-11 General Assembly in Sonoma County is now available for downloading from the plenary web site: http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ The proposal packet was previously posted to the site. The logistics packet contains information on the meeting site, housing, registration and host contacts. You will need the common password for access only to the proposal packet. Please contact your County Council or Regional Representative if you don't have it. ---------------- Online registration is now open. Use the Registration link on the plenary page cited above. Please register as soon as possible to help the host committee prepare the event. Counties are also required to submit their list of General Assembly delegates online. Use the Delegates link on the plenary page cited above. =========================================================================== IMPORTANT: All delegate names must be submitted before the meeting. Due to past problems, the Accreditation Committee will no longer accept delegate name submissions at the meeting. ============================================================================ Online registration and delegate submission closes at midnight on Wednesday Oct. 7. ------------------------- You can participate in this important event in a number of ways: At the General Assembly -- as a delegate or a observer in the decision-making plenary sessions and/or -- as participant in working group, standing committee and/or caucus meetings Before the General Assembly -- with a working group or standing committee that is generating a proposal -- discussing the agenda proposals in your county and on-line We hope to see you in Sonoma! _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From alexcathy at aol.com Tue Sep 29 06:04:31 2009 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:04:31 -0400 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Seeking Info on Wal-Mart in Milpitas Message-ID: <8CC0F1C84D01317-236C-2B8B5@webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, While attending my grandson's 11th birthday this weekend, I was told that Wal-Mart is again trying to upgrade it's Milpitas store to a "Super Center." Have any of you heard about this?? I was going to write a Letter-to-the-Editor of the Milpitas Post, but I can't find their contact information.? I know Rob Means is a "good friend" of the Milpitas Post :).? Rob, Andrea, could you help me out on this? I was still living in Milpitas a few years ago when Wal-Mart tried to do this and Milpitas folks pushed back.? Now, I suspect they think they can exploit the current recession to trot out their old argument about creating a few low-wage jobs.? It occurred to me this is a textbook case of how people are mortals living ordinary lives, but big bad corporate "persons" like Wal-Mart are immortal. Alex Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 29 07:48:54 2009 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Developer: Apple Denied Health Care App for Political Reasons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <233038.45540.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Original article:?http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/09/apple-denied-health-care-app-for-political-reasons-developer-says/Apple rejected a free iPhone application that advocated a single-payer health system, calling the application ?politically charged,? according to the app?s developer.Red Daly, a 22 year-old computer science grad student at Stanford, submitted his iSinglePayer iPhone app for Apple?s approval on Aug. 21. A little more than a month later Apple?rejected it on the grounds of its content, Daly told Wired.com.The iSinglePayer application includes facts and figures that support a Canadian-style health insurance plan where the government insures citizens and reimburses health providers, but doesn?t employ the doctors. The app also uses GPS to determine a user?s political representatives, and how much money health companies have given them in campaign donations. It also gives users a single button to call lawmakers.Daly said he made the application as a way to express his opinion and to help others express theirs.?I went to the app store because I felt like I didn?t have much of a voice in other spheres,? Daly said. ?When the mainstream media talks about single payer, they emphasize the negatives and this was my foray into the debate. It seemed like this would be the most effective way to reach people, since it is a phone and people can call right from it.?Daly said he anticipated the rejection after Apple called a few weeks ago to ask if he was working on his own, or on behalf of a group or politician. He said he was just working as his own small company, which he suspects led to his rejection.Apple?s preference for the establishment annoys Daly.?I feel like politicians already have a megaphone and Apple is making it worse instead of making it easier for a regular guy to get an application into the store,? Daly said.Apple did not reply to a request for comment.Daly, who has successfully submitted other apps such as Quiz Tunes, suspected something was off when he did not get an answer from Apple quickly.Then on Saturday morning, Daly got a call from an Apple employee who identified himself as Richard, who told him verbally that his app had been rejected. When Daly asked if there was anything he could do to make it less politically charged, Richard replied that the problem was the app was politically charged.Apple has already drawn scrutiny from federal regulators over its management of the iPhone app store, which is the only path users can take to add applications to their phone without voiding the warranty. Users have downloaded more than two billion applications.In August, Apple resorted to hair-splitting in its response to the FCC?s inquiry about why it rejected a Google Voice iPhone app. Apple said it was worried the service would confuse its users, but said it was still studying the issue ? something contradicted by Google?s response to the feds.Apple has been criticized for blocking video and internet telephony applications that compete with the telecoms it partners with. But it?s also taken heat for approving applications like the infamous Baby Shaker app, which it subsequently took down after a public outcry.Daly says he knows that Apple doesn?t have the same First Amendment obligation that the government has, but he thinks there?s a better way.?I don?t think there is any sort of corruption ? like Apple doesn?t want single payer,? Daly said. ?I think its more like they don?t want to get involved in the health care debate.?Apple should look out the for user and make sure an app functions well and doesn?t have a viruses. But I don?t think they should be in the business of censoring political speech and I don?t think they should be regulating content.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Sep 29 13:06:05 2009 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:06:05 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bill to Repeal Telecom Immunity Message-ID: My Democrat friends completely understand when I tell them that I lost hope in Obama when he voted for telecom immunity after promising he would filibuster. http://dodd.senate.gov/?q=node/5238 Senators Dodd, Leahy, Feingold, and Merkley are sponsoring the Retroactive Immunity Repeal Act. ?We best defend America when we also defend its founding principles,? said Dodd. ?We make our nation safer when we eliminate the false choice between liberty and security.... Retroactive immunity for warrantless wiretapping [violated] our citizen?s privacy and due process right." Said Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, ?Last year, I opposed legislation that stripped Americans of their right to seek accountability for the Bush administration?s [illegal warrantless wiretaps].... Restoring Americans? access to the courts is the first step toward ... accountability." ?Immunity ... was unjustified and undermined the rule of law,? Feingold said. ?Congress should not have short-circuited the courts? constitutional role in assessing the legality of the program." ?Telecommunications companies were ... violating the rights and privacy of millions of Americans,? said Merkley. The bill seeks to reverse the mistake of the last Congress and repeal the retroactive immunity provisions. The Senators say the courts, and neither Congress nor the Administration, should determine whether these corporations violated the law and rights of Americans and whether or not they should be held accountable. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? has ever-growing storage! 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The purpose of this meeting is to review the agenda packet items and prepare recommendations for presentation at our next GPSCC meeting Wednesday October 7th where we will need to decide on instructions to our Plenary Delegates for the various issues. The agenda packet and registration information can be found at cagreens.org/plenary. You need to have the user name and password for access to view and download the Agenda Packet. If you do not have this information, contact a County Council member (or longtime GPSCC activist) for that information. NOTE: This information is NOT supposed to be communicated by email. BTW: Has the County Council reported our Delegates and Alternates list yet? Did we fill our four delegates positions? Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbrouillet at igc.org Tue Sep 29 16:38:48 2009 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:38:48 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear all, I just attended the American Monetary Reform Conference in Chicago. Kucinich is supposed to introduce a Monetary Reform Bill in a few weeks. I hope to write an in depth article on the conference and the financial/political/monetary situation. I could give a verbal report at the next meeting, but I am also interested in attending the plenary and working on including monetary reform in the national platform and figuring out how we can do that, starting at the grassroots level. Carol Brouillet From wrolley at charter.net Tue Sep 29 17:19:38 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:19:38 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AC2A41A.1070306@charter.net> Carol, I have a couple of suggestions. The national Platform committee can not now do anything until the 2012 Presidential Convention. However, there is an effort underway to change the bylaws of the GPUS is two significant ways. - allow updates every 2 years. - allow voting to take place on segments of the platform rather than an up / down vote on the entire platform. Currently, I believe that I am the only committee member from California on the national Platform Committee. We are allowed 3 and your participation would be welcomed. If you want to join in, then write a note to Sanda Everette, CoChair of our National Delegation. Instructions are here: http://cagreens.org/delegates/committee_appt_procedure.shtml I would warn you that we have to work through the process issues I mentioned above before work on substantive issues commences. However, when it does, there are several on the committee who share your intent... to update the platform from what it was in 2004 and still is. Carol Brouillet wrote: > Dear all, > > I just attended the American Monetary Reform Conference in > Chicago. Kucinich is supposed to introduce a Monetary Reform Bill in a few weeks. I hope to write an in depth article on the conference and the financial/political/monetary situation. I could give a verbal report at the next meeting, but I am also interested in attending the plenary and working on including monetary reform in the national platform and figuring out how we can do that, starting at the grassroots level. > > Carol Brouillet > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Sep 29 23:07:15 2009 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Regional meeting Message-ID: <552013.91073.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Caroline Yacoub To: Santa Clara - San Mateo Communications Cc: Caroline Yacoub Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:46:56 PM Subject: Regional meeting ??????????????????? Regional Meeting--Jade Palace--September 29, 2009 In attendance: Jim Stauffer--Regional Rep. Tian Harter--SCCC Warner Blomberg-GPUS delegate Don Davis--was on SM board Gloria Purcell Margaret Pey--Treasurer, SM Vi Minh Brian Good Andrea Dory 3 terms on SCCC Caroline Yacoub==SCCC Binky Bachelder--SM County Council Chairperson Susan--SM Cindy Dana St. George--SCCC Gerry Gras Jim suggested we discuss three topics: 1) how are the counties doing? 2) state of the stae party, 3) electing a new regional rep.? Margaret also wanted to discuss the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December. 1)What's going on in the counties? Binky said San Mateo has been inactive, but they're trying to pick up. Sanda and others are busy with other things. Theydo have money. They are going to look at what they did in the past, mailings for example, and see how effective they were. Margaret said that Ray Toby talked to them as a campaign consultant. He knows how to get lists of who voted and when. We could get him to give a talk to both counties. Andrea said we should do this this winter. Warner said Ray thinks we think too small. We need candidate training. Andrea said Santa Clara County is doing outreach. We are trying to get emails rather than doing mailings. We are doing a lot of tabling. We have organic seeds. Warner grew some, and the results were great. We need to go to farmers' markets. Caroline suggested having Ray at our next Food 4 Thought in January. Tian thought there should be more than one speaker. 2) State of the state party, Jim Stauffer Our voter registration peaked in 2003. All political parties are losing registrations. We have to worry about losing our ballot status. If we keep dropping 8-10% per year, we will be off in 3 years. The Green Party has been an experiment in structure. The state party has a series of standing committees who do the work. Only 2-3 committees are currently functioning. There have been internal problems in the state party. We have no center focus--no one basic issue. We need to sit down and figure out what this focus should be. ((editorial comment: does the name "Green"? suggest anything?)) We should have on-line voting to take care of decision-making that is now being done at the plenary. We need to get our counties organized and energized in order to get the state going.The last thing to be discussed at the upcoming plenary is restructuring. Jim thinks this restructuring is a mess. We should not have more than? half the delegates be elected at large. Gloria asked if restructuring will be brought to a vote on Sunday afternoon. If so, she, and probably others, will leave early, so there wouldn't be a quorum. Vi raised the issue of outreach for candidates. Warner said that in the state party there have been some small successes in recruiting people to run for statewide offices. So far, the only people he knows of who are running for statewide offices are from southern California.Laura Wells said she would run for Comptroller. The deadline for declaring is in February. Susan asked if other state parties were having the same problems as California. Gloria said California is so big that it's more like national than other states. Cindy (sorry, I didn't get her last name) is from Nebraska. She was in on the start of the Greens there.She worked on Nader's campaign and on two congressional campaigns. Brian asked if we could split into northern and southern California parties. Warner said no. Vi said that before she joined the Green Party she was in the Peace and Freedom party. She said we should make it easier to put Green people on the ballot--not make it sound like such a big deal to run--just get names on the ballot. Warner said we should have a candidates' schoool. Jim said we don't have a snowball's chance of winning in a partisan election. We need to work on IRV. Tian said we need to get people to run for County Council. Vi said we should build alliances with other peace groups. Gloria said she couldn't get the Sierra Club to endorse her. Andrea said we are starting to get into a real working relationship with the Single Payer people. Gloria said "Fair Vote" is doing a good job. We have a couple of Green people on their board. Jim said people pushing for a constitutional convention onclude Steven Hill and Steve Chessin., who are heavy hitters for IRV. We need to push that in the constitutional convention. Andrea said we need to get the word out regarding proportional representation--let people know our democracy is old, creaky, and needs desperately needs fixing. 3)Replacing the Regional Rep--Jim Stauffer Jim will vacate the office at the end of the year. During this time when the Coordinating Committee is being restructured, it would not be good for our seat to be vacant. The time commitment could be just a few hours per month, but you are expected to do state work. There is a liaison from the CC to each working committee. Jim will send the job description out. We need a competent person. Warner said several years ago both counties made a procedure for choosing a rep.? Both counties need to agree and follow the procedure. We should also have an alternate to serve when the rep is absent and to help. Gerry and Dana did this together. They felt that the rep needed to be at the general meetings of both counties and the state meetings. We need to get candidates. They need to go to both counties. In santa Clara, the rep is selected at the general meeting. In San Mateo, they do it at a county council meeting. They have to agree. Warner will contact Jim Doyle to get this item on the agenda for the October 7 meeting. 4) Once again Margaret reminded us of the Copenhagen Climate Change Conference. We should google it and find out things we can do. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 30 00:42:55 2009 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:42:55 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] US is "climate illiterate" Message-ID: <4AC30BFF.9090900@earthlink.net> "US Inertia Could Scupper World Climate Deal in Copenhagen, Says Expert" "Leading climate scientist criticises Bush administration and points to general ignorance of global warming in US public polls" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/29-8 Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Wed Sep 30 07:58:52 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:58:52 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What to do about Copenhagen Message-ID: <4AC3722C.3060507@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- -----Original Message----- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:04:31 -0400 From: alexcathy at aol.com Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Seeking Info on Wal-Mart in Milpitas To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Message-ID: <8CC0F1C84D01317-236C-2B8B5 at webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Green Friends, While attending my grandson's 11th birthday this weekend, I was told that Wal-Mart is again trying to upgrade it's Milpitas store to a "Super Center." Have any of you heard about this?? I was going to write a Letter-to-the-Editor of the Milpitas Post, but I can't find their contact information.? I know Rob Means is a "good friend" of the Milpitas Post :).? Rob, Andrea, could you help me out on this? I was still living in Milpitas a few years ago when Wal-Mart tried to do this and Milpitas folks pushed back.? Now, I suspect they think they can exploit the current recession to trot out their old argument about creating a few low-wage jobs.? It occurred to me this is a textbook case of how people are mortals living ordinary lives, but big bad corporate "persons" like Wal-Mart are immortal. Alex Walker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/attachments/20090929 /f7782df0/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 30 11:48:27 2009 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:48:27 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] delegates list Message-ID: <4AC3A7FB.4040104@sbcglobal.net> Warner asked BTW: Has the County Council reported our Delegates and Alternates list yet? Did we fill our four delegates positions? Warner Not that I know of. Who had the task of doing so? Jim Doyle From andid at cagreens.org Tue Sep 29 23:13:24 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:13:24 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Plenary documents In-Reply-To: <4AC18D17.1020903@sbcglobal.net> References: <4AC18D17.1020903@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I am handling the delegates/alternatives list for the plenary. Some issues are still up in the air, but will be resolved this week and reported. Andrea Dorey On Sep 28, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE > > This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. > > The logistics packet for the Oct. 10-11 General Assembly in Sonoma > County is > now available for downloading from the plenary web site: > > http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ > > The proposal packet was previously posted to the site. > > The logistics packet contains information on the meeting site, > housing, > registration and host contacts. > > You will need the common password for access only to the proposal > packet. > Please contact your County Council or Regional Representative if > you don't > have it. > ---------------- > > Online registration is now open. Use the Registration link on the > plenary > page cited above. Please register as soon as possible to help the host > committee prepare the event. > > Counties are also required to submit their list of General Assembly > delegates > online. Use the Delegates link on the plenary page cited above. > > ====================================================================== > ===== > IMPORTANT: All delegate names must be submitted before the > meeting. Due to > past problems, the Accreditation Committee will no longer accept > delegate name > submissions at the meeting. > ====================================================================== > ====== > > Online registration and delegate submission closes at midnight on > Wednesday > Oct. 7. > ------------------------- > You can participate in this important event in a number of ways: > > At the General Assembly > -- as a delegate or a observer in the decision-making plenary > sessions > and/or > -- as participant in working group, standing committee and/or caucus > meetings > > Before the General Assembly > -- with a working group or standing committee that is generating a > proposal > -- discussing the agenda proposals in your county and on-line > > We hope to see you in Sonoma! > > _______________________________________________ > Contacts2006 mailing list > Contacts2006 at lists.cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Wed Sep 30 17:44:10 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:44:10 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] delegates list In-Reply-To: <4AC3A7FB.4040104@sbcglobal.net> References: <4AC3A7FB.4040104@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <09485E31-B99B-462F-BBB7-980851C7FAF3@cagreens.org> I have it, gentlemen. I am waiting for a final answer from two people. Andrea On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Warner asked > BTW: Has the County Council reported our Delegates and Alternates > list > yet? Did we fill our four delegates positions? > > Warner > > Not that I know of. > Who had the task of doing so? > > Jim Doyle > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Wed Sep 30 17:50:08 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:50:08 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Seeking Info on Wal-Mart in Milpitas In-Reply-To: <004401ca41fb$d83a0c00$6801a8c0@INTERBIKE06> References: <004401ca41fb$d83a0c00$6801a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Message-ID: <9516A79D-4604-421D-B661-9B96932FC47E@cagreens.org> Alex, what to do? Any advice on procedure? Rob, I can contact our "deep throat" in Milpitas to see what the feeling is on this issue now. Andrea On Sep 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Rob Means wrote: > Alex, > > Yes, I recently heard that Wal-Mart plans to file for an > expansion. No > more details, nor do I know of anyone organizing to push back. > > Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters > 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com > 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 > Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > --- > -----Original Message----- > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:04:31 -0400 > From: alexcathy at aol.com > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Seeking Info on Wal-Mart in Milpitas > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Message-ID: <8CC0F1C84D01317-236C-2B8B5 at webmail-m074.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Green Friends, > > While attending my grandson's 11th birthday this weekend, I was told > that Wal-Mart is again trying to upgrade it's Milpitas store to a > "Super > Center." > > Have any of you heard about this?? I was going to write a > Letter-to-the-Editor of the Milpitas Post, but I can't find their > contact information.? I know Rob Means is a "good friend" of the > Milpitas Post :).? Rob, Andrea, could you help me out on this? > > I was still living in Milpitas a few years ago when Wal-Mart tried > to do > this and Milpitas folks pushed back.? Now, I suspect they think > they can > exploit the current recession to trot out their old argument about > creating a few low-wage jobs.? It occurred to me this is a textbook > case > of how people are mortals living ordinary lives, but big bad corporate > "persons" like Wal-Mart are immortal. > > > Alex Walker > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/attachments/ > 20090929 > /f7782df0/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From andid at cagreens.org Wed Sep 30 18:00:31 2009 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:00:31 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] US is "climate illiterate" In-Reply-To: <4AC30BFF.9090900@earthlink.net> References: <4AC30BFF.9090900@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46FE9AC2-C1A6-43A2-A6B9-776DE2935C36@cagreens.org> Well, excuse me, but we have the Obama administration and I'm not seeing much movement now!! What's the plan here? What can we do? We have 350 coming up fast where we could do something outrageous?SO WHAT DO WE DO?????? Ideas, ideas, ideas!!! Andrea On Sep 30, 2009, at 12:42 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > "US Inertia Could Scupper World Climate Deal in Copenhagen, Says > Expert" > "Leading climate scientist criticises Bush administration and > points to > general ignorance of global warming in US public polls" > > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/09/29-8 > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From wrolley at charter.net Wed Sep 30 22:13:24 2009 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:13:24 -0700 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] US is "climate illiterate" In-Reply-To: <46FE9AC2-C1A6-43A2-A6B9-776DE2935C36@cagreens.org> References: <4AC30BFF.9090900@earthlink.net> <46FE9AC2-C1A6-43A2-A6B9-776DE2935C36@cagreens.org> Message-ID: <4AC43A74.1060508@charter.net> Andrea Dorey wrote: > Well, excuse me, but we have the Obama administration and I'm not > seeing much movement now!! > What's the plan here? What can we do? > We have 350 coming up fast where we could do something outrageous?SO > WHAT DO WE DO?????? > Ideas, ideas, ideas!!! > Andrea > Interesting Euro-centric view of the US. I might say that the problem is not that we are climate illiterate, but rather science illiterate. Thus Mooney and Kirschenbaum's book, Unscientific America. There are a lot of things that can be done. But, I think that we need to get to know our local representative a lot better than we do, or for them to get to know us: Honda, McNerney, Eshoo, Lofgren, Stark all have to know that there is a constituency that cares deeply about this and who are willing to reflect this at the ballot box. At the same time, we need to hammer Boxer's office all we can. The Nuclear Information and Referral Service is scheduling October 15 as a "call in day." I will post more about that on California Greening as it gets nearer. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024