From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Apr 1 23:49:54 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:49:54 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Congressional Town Hall Meetings? Message-ID: <4BB59392.3040305@earthlink.net> According to this article, our congress members may be having town hall meetings. Does anyone know of any such meetings (especially if it is for Anna Eshoo)? "Tell Congress to Get Serious About Corporate Campaign Abuse" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/01-1 Gerry P.S. In case you have not already heard, the San Jose Merc has a good editorial supporting Prop 15: http://www.mercurynews.com/editorials/ci_14795258 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 2 10:56:09 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:56:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOUS national meeting Message-ID: <4BB62FB9.2000001@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear CA Greens, If you ever thought you might want to attend a GPUS annual meeting, this is the one! It is being held along with and following the US Social Forum....which expects the attendance of about 20,000 activists. If I can answer any questions, feel free to email me, or any of the CA delegates. If you are wondering who we are, you can see our list at http://cagreens.org/delegates/ Sanda Everette, cochair GPCA delegation to GPUS, co-chair GPUS Please join us in Detroit, Michigan, June 24-27, for the 2010 Green Party Annual National Meeting! Registration is now open at: http://greenpartymeeting2010.wordpress.com/ Note, the registration price includes BOTH the GP ANM and the USSF -- you do not need to purchase a separate registration for the U.S. Social Forum. Housing is also available. Hotel discounts have been arranged by the USSF; we are coordinating dorm rooms at Wayne State University (although through the USSF). If you wish to stay in a hotel, you will make your own reservation; if you wish to stay at Wayne State, you can reserve that through the Green Party ANM Registration Page. Note, you can arrive early to attend the entire USSF which will begin June 22. More details will be added shortly! The call for workshops is still up and running -- please submit workshop proposals (and requests for caucus/committee meeting space) to the ANM by April 15. That link is: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dGVJckNfSzBua1lYYmU4VzljSzZURnc6MA Please help us make this a great meeting by bring your energy and enthusiasm to Detroit this summer. Please forward this email to any and all interested parties such as your state and local lists. Hillary ANMC Co-Chair GPPA Delegate _______________________________________________ From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Apr 2 20:39:03 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 20:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Anaerobic Digestion In-Reply-To: <292882.44184.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <292882.44184.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19861.39851.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As we have several PA Greens, I was wondering if any of you would like to go. Caroline ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Peter Drekmeier To: Caroline Yacoub Cc: Gerry Gras Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 12:51:05 PM Subject: Re: Anaerobic Digestion Thanks again for your support! Any chance someone from the Green Party might be able to attend Monday's Council meet to express your support? Thanks. -Peter -----------------------------------Peter Drekmeier pdrekmeier at earthlink.net (650) 223-3333 On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: Dear Peter Drekmeier, > >The Santa Clara County Green Party County Council heartily endorses your proposal to bring an anaerobic digester to Palo Alto. We would like the Santa Clara County Green Party to be listed as a group supporter in the Anaerobic Digestion Letter at?http://www.pagreenenergy.org/signon?. > >Thank you for working on this project and for notifying us about it. > >Sincerely, >Caroline Yacoub >Santa Clara County Green Party Council Member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 4 16:37:13 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:37:13 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item Message-ID: <4BB922A9.4000208@sbcglobal.net> Approval of letter to (Canmber of Commerce?) written by Jim Stauffer. I certainly approve of it. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 4 16:39:38 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:39:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] media outlets Message-ID: <4BB9233A.20003@sbcglobal.net> Tian posted a link to http://www.stoptoptwo.org/ which has a link to a list of media outlets http://www.disastercenter.com/media/camedia.html not contacts, just outlets but still useful From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Apr 6 15:36:52 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:36:52 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] San Jose threatened to shut down all the marijuana clubs in town and then discussed regulation in front of a packed house... Message-ID: <4BBBB784.8020103@aceweb.com> http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/CityHall/March29thAt420PM.html -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Marijuana regulation story from San Jose's City Council. From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Apr 7 12:56:30 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 12:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Agenda for April meeting Message-ID: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ?Wednesday, April 7, 2010?? ? 7:30? Meeting opens. Selection of Facilitator, Time Keeper, Note Taker, and Vibes Watcher. Introductions and announcements (10 minutes) ? Treasurer's Report (5 minutes) Jim Doyle ? Plenary Report--plenary business (10 minutes) delegates ? Plenary Report--logistics report (10 minutes) Merriam, food, Fred, lodging, Caroline, schwag, Jim Doyle, money ? That being said, do we want to host the national meeting? (10 minutes) discussion ? Regional Rep position (5 minutes) Jim Stauffer ? ?Proposition 14 (10 minutes) Jim Stauffer ? No on 14 literature--we need to reproduce it and fold it (5 minutes) Caroline, Spenser ? Proposition 15 (5 minutes) anyone who went to the Campaign kickoff ? Nazis (2 minutes) Caroline ? Berryessa Art and Wine Festival? (10 minutes) Warner, Caroline, Dale ? Calendar of events? and selection of people responsible for them(15 minutes) Andrea, Caroline, Jim Doyle ? Walmart expansion in Milpitas (5 minutes) Andrea ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ?To speed things up and let people think about which events they would like to participate in, I have included what I know about upcoming things for April and May. ? ? April 21--Earth Day at Santa Clara University 10:00-4:00 ? April22--Earth Day at SJSU 10:00-2 or 3 ? April 24--Junior State (is this the right date?) April ? De Anza--someone want to contact De Anza ASB? ? ? May8--Berryessa Art and Wine Festival ? May 16--Be an Artist Day, Milpitas May ? Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition--healthcare forum at Andrew Hill High School, 9-3:00. Good chance for outreach to Latino and Vietnamese students. Take voter registration forms. ------------------------------------------------- ?For those who want to get more into Earth Day, Acterra has Weed Warriors every Wednesday at Arastradero Preserve; Earth Day Workday celebration April 10, 20, and 24, Redwood Grove. Los Altos; April 17 San Francisquito Creek workday; April 20, Third Tuesday Habitat Restoration; April 24, Waterwise Landscaping Conference: Slow the Flow. ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- For those who want to do more for peace, here are some regularly scheduled vigils for peace and justice: Mondays, 5-6 pm, Corner of Market and San Carlos.Justice for Palestinians. Peace Discussions, Fourth Monday of most months. 7:30-8:30 pm Sunnyvale Presbyterian Church, Fremont and Hollenbeck. Wednesdays, 4:45-6:00 pm peace vigil corner of Embarcadero and El Camino, Palo Alto. Thursdays, 5:30-6:30 in Willow Glen, SW corner of Lincoln and Minnesota. Willow Glen Peace Action. Fridays, 5-6:00 in front of Martin Luther King Library, peace vigil. Fourth Fridays of each month 12:10-12:50 at Lockheed Martin Gates, Java and Mathilda in Sunnyvale. Saturdays and Sundays 11:30 am-2 pm, Winchester and Stevens Creek, San Jose, near Valley Fair and Santana Row. ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed Apr 7 22:06:58 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:06:58 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Agenda for April meeting In-Reply-To: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BBD6472.1060101@prodsyse.com> On 4/7/2010 12:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > Wednesday, April 7, 2010 > > > > > > > 7:30 Meeting opens. Selection of Facilitator, Time Keeper, Note Taker, and Vibes Watcher. Introductions and announcements (10 minutes) > Caroline, facilitator; Tom Donahue (timekeeper), Santa Clara; Cameron Spitzer; Spencer Graves (notetaker), Brian Good Fred Duperrault; Merriam Kathleen; Tian Harter (vibes watcher); Jim Doyle (agenda for next month); Jim Stauffer; Werner Bloomberg. > > Treasurer's Report (5 minutes) Jim Doyle; At the plenary, we got $2003.90 intake; expenses not yet known. (one major bill $1020). Bought too much food. **** Everyone holding receipts, please send to Jim. > > Plenary Report--plenary business (10 minutes) delegates; > Werner: I thought it was good in terms of business accomplished, esp. ballot initiatives, GPUS delegates pro forma election. Normal platform hash. Green issues pared down their issues to 3. As soon as the marajuana initiative is endorsed by the Secretary of State, etc., automatic yes, ban on abortions for minor, no; ... Tom: Impressed with how quickly the budget was approved. Tian: > > Plenary Report--logistics report (10 minutes) Merriam, food, Fred, lodging, Caroline, schwag, Jim Doyle, money: > Merriam: Thank Brian for all his work in the kitchen. Caroline: Thank Jim for finding such a great space. No complaints from anyone. Appreciate all the people who opened their homes, etc. Need someone to help make more swag. Sold buttons, tee shirts, etc., except for the rocks. Werner has a box of unopened drinks for the next event (Merriam: next "Food for Thought") Never do muffins again. Vinagrette was by far the most popular dressing. Coffee was a big seller. Andrea is supposed to make a report from notes taken at the debriefing meeting. ANYONE WITH INFO ON THIS: SEND TO ANDREA. Werner: Recipes for the two main items: for the next Green Focus. When's the deadline? > > That being said, do we want to host the national meeting? (10 minutes) discussion > Merriam: No. Werner: We're still debriefing. The national organization will have responsibility for all costs. Responsibility of local host ... Proceeds split between national and local. Werner will continue asking about this. How many local volunteers would be needed? Need the entire bay area. Jim S: Hosting a national meeting should be several counties collaborating, not just one. Werner agrees. National meeting June or July 2012. Werner: Need to have the site reservation locked in a year before the event. Need space for 1,000. Will ask SJSU about cafeteria & dorms. Jim S: Get dorms at a university. Jim will get a list of other people to contact. > > Regional Rep position (5 minutes) Jim Stauffer > How to fill the spot? Cindy _________ has resigned. One regional rep spot is vacant. Jim Doyle: Cindy went to the Muslim Youth Council and made a pitch. Brian: She said she had done a great job, she thought. > > Proposition 14 (10 minutes) Jim Stauffer > No organized opposition. We need a coalition -- the Greens should try to form a coalition to try to help oppose this. Californians for Electoral Reform. Free and Equal Elections Foundation (?) Silicon Valley Leadership Group is supporting this proposition, and is trying to get chambers of commerce. This is based allegedly on a research paper from the Public Policy Council of California. League of Women Voters? > > No on 14 literature--we need to reproduce it and fold it (5 minutes) Caroline, Spenser > Look at the materials on the Green party web site. *** Anyone please send comments on this to Spencer. Brian will create an "no on 14" logo. Jim S: Should not have the Green party logo on it. Werner and Tian went to the kick-off for Prop 14. They are very organized have a good chance to win. Prop 14 eliminates write-ins for the general election. #################### Phone banking (Merrriam): > > Proposition 15 (5 minutes) anyone who went to the Campaign kickoff > > > Nazis (2 minutes) Caroline > The Nazi party has permit for a meeting at the LA City Hall (?) on Sat., April 17. Caroline will stand somewhere with a "Say No to Nazis" party. Show up and help David _____________. > > Berryessa Art and Wine Festival (10 minutes) Warner, Caroline, Dale > Volunteer to work the middle of the day, May 8, the day before Mother's day. Tian will help. Please come at noon. Dale & Werner will set up. 8:30 - noon. Tian noon - 3 or 4. Caroline & Dale will come the last 2 hours. Fred will also go noon - 3 or 4. Werner will email Fred. Jim Doyle: We have a reservation and a confirmation. Cameron produced a list of Greens in that zip code for phone banking. Cameron: We must protect these lists. Caroline: We must not leave early. > > Calendar of events and selection of people responsible for them(15 minutes) Andrea, Caroline, Jim Doyle > Jim Doyle: We've received an email from a group at Santa Clara U. Caroline will pick up Tian for this at Santa Clara U. and will take him and the stuff home. Fred will table Apr. 22 at SJSU. Tian will help. Fred to pick up Tain & the stuff. Need someone to call De Anza or we don't do De Anza. Junior State is exciting. We must make many marijuana buttons. Brian does not want to do Jr. State alone. Jim S. will take a shift. (1 - 4 PM?) Brian can bring his box and will pick up the sunflower banner, etc., and will pick the stuff up from Fred and will drop it off at Caroline's. Merriam and Caroline will do the "Be an Artist Day". Caroline has a button machine. She will host a button party next Sunday, Apr. 11, 1 or 2 PM. Fred has a small button machine. All we need is a 2.25" circles. Tian to make a sign saying, "I pledge to pay off my credit card every month." Then have people sign it and have their picture taken with it. > > Walmart expansion in Milpitas (5 minutes) Andrea (Andrea not here.) > Media ignoring the Green party. Fred: We have a good candidate for Governor but no one knows. We need to think about doing something newsworthy. Jim S. has made progress putting together a coalition. ############################# Food for Thought (Merriam): Who: against major banks + Tian's "pay off credit card each month" + No on 14 + Yes on 15 + health care + immigration Where: Prefer in San Jose near SJSU. Need a place with a kitchen or kitchen facility. Werner will look into the North Side Community Center. May 24 at 5 PM. Merriam can check the First Christian church. Caroline will call SJ Parks & Rec on behalf of the Green party ... Caroline will email Dale regarding a place (e.g., a community center): for Sat., May 22. Merriam: We've looked at places for $100 but have not had to pay that much. something 3 -10 PM (for an event 5 -8). Would accept a great place for $120. Werner will write a phone script: I'm a volunteer for the Green party, and I'm calling to invite you to some events. ... (1) issues on the ballot, esp. Prop 14. (2) Berryessa. (3) Food for Thought, etc. But Werner needs the info to write it. Tom to ask Tom Hartman if he'd come and talk. Merriam will come to Caroline's at ~ 1 PM this Sunday. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To speed things up and let people think about which events they would like to participate in, I have included what I know about upcoming things for April and May. > > > April 21--Earth Day at Santa Clara University 10:00-4:00 > > April22--Earth Day at SJSU 10:00-2 or 3 > > April 24--Junior State (is this the right date?) > April ? De Anza--someone want to contact De Anza ASB? > > > May8--Berryessa Art and Wine Festival > > May 16--Be an Artist Day, Milpitas > May ? Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition--healthcare forum at Andrew Hill High School, 9-3:00. Good chance for outreach to Latino and Vietnamese students. Take voter registration forms. > ------------------------------------------------- > For those who want to get more into Earth Day, Acterra has Weed Warriors every Wednesday at Arastradero Preserve; Earth Day Workday celebration April 10, 20, and 24, Redwood Grove. Los Altos; April 17 San Francisquito Creek workday; April 20, Third Tuesday Habitat Restoration; April 24, Waterwise Landscaping Conference: Slow the Flow. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For those who want to do more for peace, here are some regularly scheduled vigils for peace and justice: > Mondays, 5-6 pm, Corner of Market and San Carlos.Justice for Palestinians. > Peace Discussions, Fourth Monday of most months. 7:30-8:30 pm Sunnyvale Presbyterian Church, Fremont and Hollenbeck. > Wednesdays, 4:45-6:00 pm peace vigil corner of Embarcadero and El Camino, Palo Alto. > Thursdays, 5:30-6:30 in Willow Glen, SW corner of Lincoln and Minnesota. Willow Glen Peace Action. > Fridays, 5-6:00 in front of Martin Luther King Library, peace vigil. > Fourth Fridays of each month 12:10-12:50 at Lockheed Martin Gates, Java and Mathilda in Sunnyvale. > Saturdays and Sundays 11:30 am-2 pm, Winchester and Stevens Creek, San Jose, near Valley Fair and Santana Row. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It includes Earth Day where we will be tabling. The program for the week is very interesting. The schedule can be viewed at http://sites.google.com/a/sjsusustainabilityweek.org/www/program Jim Doyle From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Apr 8 19:34:43 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:34:43 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Agenda for April meeting In-Reply-To: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BBE9243.9000605@prodsyse.com> Hello All: A correction to the notes and an update on the Prop 14 bookmark: CORRECTION (from Jim Doyle): Warner and Tian (and Merriam) went to a kickoff meeting of proposition 15 (not no on 14.) **** NOTE: Please feel free to "reply to all" with corrections to the notes. That will accelerate the process of sharing the information, and will NOT hurt my feelings. PROP 14 BOOKMARK: 1. This must be completed by Sunday noon, if I understand correctly, as they will be produced at Caroline's Sunday PM. 2. Tian volunteered to produce "NO 14" art for this. This task must be completed before Sunday noon to meet the production schedule per item 1 above. 3. Attached (and copied below) is the current status of the bookmark, revised per a suggestion from Jim Doyle. Please everyone feel free to suggest revisions, experiment with alternatives, etc. Keep in mind, however, that sometimes the more we say, the less we communicate. For this bookmark, if we increase the word count much, we will need a larger bookmark. That will increase our production costs, giving us fewer bookmarks per sheet of paper, increasing the labor required for each, wasted paper or card stock that must be sent to the landfill or recycled, etc. Best Wishes, Spencer ######################## [put " No 14" art here] No on Prop 14 Title: ?Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections? Direct Effect: Create a single ballot primary with only the top two competing in the general. Proponents say it will increase democracy. Facts: Louisiana had this system for 30 years (1978-2006) and only one incumbent lost. Similarly, only one incumbent lost when Washington used it in 2008. It could be accurately describes as, "The reelection security act of 2010." Supporters include: Incumbents, Chambers of Commerce, Schwarzenegger Opponents include: Chairs of the California Republican and Democratic Parties, ACLU, Green Party, Ralph Nader More info: ?California Proposition 14 (2010)? in ?ballotpedia.org? ######################### On 4/7/2010 12:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > Wednesday, April 7, 2010 > > > > > > > 7:30 Meeting opens. Selection of Facilitator, Time Keeper, Note Taker, and Vibes Watcher. Introductions and announcements (10 minutes) > Caroline, facilitator; Tom Donahue (timekeeper), Santa Clara; Cameron Spitzer; Spencer Graves (notetaker), Brian Good Fred Duperrault; Merriam Kathleen; Tian Harter (vibes watcher); Jim Doyle (agenda for next month); Jim Stauffer; Werner Bloomberg. > > Treasurer's Report (5 minutes) Jim Doyle; At the plenary, we got $2003.90 intake; expenses not yet known. (one major bill $1020). Bought too much food. **** Everyone holding receipts, please send to Jim. > > Plenary Report--plenary business (10 minutes) delegates; > Werner: I thought it was good in terms of business accomplished, esp. ballot initiatives, GPUS delegates pro forma election. Normal platform hash. Green issues pared down their issues to 3. As soon as the marajuana initiative is endorsed by the Secretary of State, etc., automatic yes, ban on abortions for minor, no; ... Tom: Impressed with how quickly the budget was approved. Tian: > > Plenary Report--logistics report (10 minutes) Merriam, food, Fred, lodging, Caroline, schwag, Jim Doyle, money: > Merriam: Thank Brian for all his work in the kitchen. Caroline: Thank Jim for finding such a great space. No complaints from anyone. Appreciate all the people who opened their homes, etc. Need someone to help make more swag. Sold buttons, tee shirts, etc., except for the rocks. Werner has a box of unopened drinks for the next event (Merriam: next "Food for Thought") Never do muffins again. Vinagrette was by far the most popular dressing. Coffee was a big seller. Andrea is supposed to make a report from notes taken at the debriefing meeting. ANYONE WITH INFO ON THIS: SEND TO ANDREA. Werner: Recipes for the two main items: for the next Green Focus. When's the deadline? > > That being said, do we want to host the national meeting? (10 minutes) discussion > Merriam: No. Werner: We're still debriefing. The national organization will have responsibility for all costs. Responsibility of local host ... Proceeds split between national and local. Werner will continue asking about this. How many local volunteers would be needed? Need the entire bay area. Jim S: Hosting a national meeting should be several counties collaborating, not just one. Werner agrees. National meeting June or July 2012. Werner: Need to have the site reservation locked in a year before the event. Need space for 1,000. Will ask SJSU about cafeteria & dorms. Jim S: Get dorms at a university. Jim will get a list of other people to contact. > > Regional Rep position (5 minutes) Jim Stauffer > How to fill the spot? Cindy _________ has resigned. One regional rep spot is vacant. Jim Doyle: Cindy went to the Muslim Youth Council and made a pitch. Brian: She said she had done a great job, she thought. > > Proposition 14 (10 minutes) Jim Stauffer > No organized opposition. We need a coalition -- the Greens should try to form a coalition to try to help oppose this. Californians for Electoral Reform. Free and Equal Elections Foundation (?) Silicon Valley Leadership Group is supporting this proposition, and is trying to get chambers of commerce. This is based allegedly on a research paper from the Public Policy Council of California. League of Women Voters? > > No on 14 literature--we need to reproduce it and fold it (5 minutes) Caroline, Spenser > Look at the materials on the Green party web site. *** Anyone please send comments on this to Spencer. Brian will create an "no on 14" logo. Jim S: Should not have the Green party logo on it. Werner and Tian went to the kick-off for Prop 14. They are very organized have a good chance to win. Prop 14 eliminates write-ins for the general election. #################### Phone banking (Merrriam): > > Proposition 15 (5 minutes) anyone who went to the Campaign kickoff > > > Nazis (2 minutes) Caroline > The Nazi party has permit for a meeting at the LA City Hall (?) on Sat., April 17. Caroline will stand somewhere with a "Say No to Nazis" party. Show up and help David _____________. > > Berryessa Art and Wine Festival (10 minutes) Warner, Caroline, Dale > Volunteer to work the middle of the day, May 8, the day before Mother's day. Tian will help. Please come at noon. Dale & Werner will set up. 8:30 - noon. Tian noon - 3 or 4. Caroline & Dale will come the last 2 hours. Fred will also go noon - 3 or 4. Werner will email Fred. Jim Doyle: We have a reservation and a confirmation. Cameron produced a list of Greens in that zip code for phone banking. Cameron: We must protect these lists. Caroline: We must not leave early. > > Calendar of events and selection of people responsible for them(15 minutes) Andrea, Caroline, Jim Doyle > Jim Doyle: We've received an email from a group at Santa Clara U. Caroline will pick up Tian for this at Santa Clara U. and will take him and the stuff home. Fred will table Apr. 22 at SJSU. Tian will help. Fred to pick up Tain & the stuff. Need someone to call De Anza or we don't do De Anza. Junior State is exciting. We must make many marijuana buttons. Brian does not want to do Jr. State alone. Jim S. will take a shift. (1 - 4 PM?) Brian can bring his box and will pick up the sunflower banner, etc., and will pick the stuff up from Fred and will drop it off at Caroline's. Merriam and Caroline will do the "Be an Artist Day". Caroline has a button machine. She will host a button party next Sunday, Apr. 11, 1 or 2 PM. Fred has a small button machine. All we need is a 2.25" circles. Tian to make a sign saying, "I pledge to pay off my credit card every month." Then have people sign it and have their picture taken with it. > > Walmart expansion in Milpitas (5 minutes) Andrea (Andrea not here.) > Media ignoring the Green party. Fred: We have a good candidate for Governor but no one knows. We need to think about doing something newsworthy. Jim S. has made progress putting together a coalition. ############################# Food for Thought (Merriam): Who: against major banks + Tian's "pay off credit card each month" + No on 14 + Yes on 15 + health care + immigration Where: Prefer in San Jose near SJSU. Need a place with a kitchen or kitchen facility. Werner will look into the North Side Community Center. May 24 at 5 PM. Merriam can check the First Christian church. Caroline will call SJ Parks & Rec on behalf of the Green party ... Caroline will email Dale regarding a place (e.g., a community center): for Sat., May 22. Merriam: We've looked at places for $100 but have not had to pay that much. something 3 -10 PM (for an event 5 -8). Would accept a great place for $120. Werner will write a phone script: I'm a volunteer for the Green party, and I'm calling to invite you to some events. ... (1) issues on the ballot, esp. Prop 14. (2) Berryessa. (3) Food for Thought, etc. But Werner needs the info to write it. Tom to ask Tom Hartman if he'd come and talk. Merriam will come to Caroline's at ~ 1 PM this Sunday. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To speed things up and let people think about which events they would like to participate in, I have included what I know about upcoming things for April and May. > > > April 21--Earth Day at Santa Clara University 10:00-4:00 > > April22--Earth Day at SJSU 10:00-2 or 3 > > April 24--Junior State (is this the right date?) > April ? De Anza--someone want to contact De Anza ASB? > > > May8--Berryessa Art and Wine Festival > > May 16--Be an Artist Day, Milpitas > May ? Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition--healthcare forum at Andrew Hill High School, 9-3:00. Good chance for outreach to Latino and Vietnamese students. Take voter registration forms. > ------------------------------------------------- > For those who want to get more into Earth Day, Acterra has Weed Warriors every Wednesday at Arastradero Preserve; Earth Day Workday celebration April 10, 20, and 24, Redwood Grove. Los Altos; April 17 San Francisquito Creek workday; April 20, Third Tuesday Habitat Restoration; April 24, Waterwise Landscaping Conference: Slow the Flow. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For those who want to do more for peace, here are some regularly scheduled vigils for peace and justice: > Mondays, 5-6 pm, Corner of Market and San Carlos.Justice for Palestinians. > Peace Discussions, Fourth Monday of most months. 7:30-8:30 pm Sunnyvale Presbyterian Church, Fremont and Hollenbeck. > Wednesdays, 4:45-6:00 pm peace vigil corner of Embarcadero and El Camino, Palo Alto. > Thursdays, 5:30-6:30 in Willow Glen, SW corner of Lincoln and Minnesota. Willow Glen Peace Action. > Fridays, 5-6:00 in front of Martin Luther King Library, peace vigil. > Fourth Fridays of each month 12:10-12:50 at Lockheed Martin Gates, Java and Mathilda in Sunnyvale. > Saturdays and Sundays 11:30 am-2 pm, Winchester and Stevens Creek, San Jose, near Valley Fair and Santana Row. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That will accelerate the process of sharing the information, and will NOT hurt my feelings. PROP 14 BOOKMARK: 1. This must be completed by Sunday noon, if I understand correctly, as they will be produced at Caroline's Sunday PM. 2. Tian volunteered to produce "NO 14" art for this. This task must be completed before Sunday noon to meet the production schedule per item 1 above. 3. Attached (and copied below) is the current status of the bookmark, revised per a suggestion from Jim Doyle. Please everyone feel free to suggest revisions, experiment with alternatives, etc. Keep in mind, however, that sometimes the more we say, the less we communicate. For this bookmark, if we increase the word count much, we will need a larger bookmark. That will increase our production costs, giving us fewer bookmarks per sheet of paper, increasing the labor required for each, wasted paper or card stock that must be sent to the landfill or recycled, etc. Best Wishes, Spencer ######################## [put " No 14" art here] No on Prop 14 Title: ?Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections? Direct Effect: Create a single ballot primary with only the top two competing in the general. Proponents say it will increase democracy. Facts: Louisiana had this system for 30 years (1978-2006) and only one incumbent lost. Similarly, only one incumbent lost when Washington used it in 2008. It could be accurately describes as, "The reelection security act of 2010." Supporters include: Incumbents, Chambers of Commerce, Schwarzenegger Opponents include: Chairs of the California Republican and Democratic Parties, ACLU, Green Party, Ralph Nader More info: ?California Proposition 14 (2010)? in ?ballotpedia.org? ######################### On 4/7/2010 12:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > Wednesday, April 7, 2010 > > > > > > > 7:30 Meeting opens. Selection of Facilitator, Time Keeper, Note Taker, and Vibes Watcher. Introductions and announcements (10 minutes) > Caroline, facilitator; Tom Donahue (timekeeper), Santa Clara; Cameron Spitzer; Spencer Graves (notetaker), Brian Good Fred Duperrault; Merriam Kathleen; Tian Harter (vibes watcher); Jim Doyle (agenda for next month); Jim Stauffer; Werner Bloomberg. > > Treasurer's Report (5 minutes) Jim Doyle; At the plenary, we got $2003.90 intake; expenses not yet known. (one major bill $1020). Bought too much food. **** Everyone holding receipts, please send to Jim. > > Plenary Report--plenary business (10 minutes) delegates; > Werner: I thought it was good in terms of business accomplished, esp. ballot initiatives, GPUS delegates pro forma election. Normal platform hash. Green issues pared down their issues to 3. As soon as the marajuana initiative is endorsed by the Secretary of State, etc., automatic yes, ban on abortions for minor, no; ... Tom: Impressed with how quickly the budget was approved. Tian: > > Plenary Report--logistics report (10 minutes) Merriam, food, Fred, lodging, Caroline, schwag, Jim Doyle, money: > Merriam: Thank Brian for all his work in the kitchen. Caroline: Thank Jim for finding such a great space. No complaints from anyone. Appreciate all the people who opened their homes, etc. Need someone to help make more swag. Sold buttons, tee shirts, etc., except for the rocks. Werner has a box of unopened drinks for the next event (Merriam: next "Food for Thought") Never do muffins again. Vinagrette was by far the most popular dressing. Coffee was a big seller. Andrea is supposed to make a report from notes taken at the debriefing meeting. ANYONE WITH INFO ON THIS: SEND TO ANDREA. Werner: Recipes for the two main items: for the next Green Focus. When's the deadline? > > That being said, do we want to host the national meeting? (10 minutes) discussion > Merriam: No. Werner: We're still debriefing. The national organization will have responsibility for all costs. Responsibility of local host ... Proceeds split between national and local. Werner will continue asking about this. How many local volunteers would be needed? Need the entire bay area. Jim S: Hosting a national meeting should be several counties collaborating, not just one. Werner agrees. National meeting June or July 2012. Werner: Need to have the site reservation locked in a year before the event. Need space for 1,000. Will ask SJSU about cafeteria & dorms. Jim S: Get dorms at a university. Jim will get a list of other people to contact. > > Regional Rep position (5 minutes) Jim Stauffer > How to fill the spot? Cindy _________ has resigned. One regional rep spot is vacant. Jim Doyle: Cindy went to the Muslim Youth Council and made a pitch. Brian: She said she had done a great job, she thought. > > Proposition 14 (10 minutes) Jim Stauffer > No organized opposition. We need a coalition -- the Greens should try to form a coalition to try to help oppose this. Californians for Electoral Reform. Free and Equal Elections Foundation (?) Silicon Valley Leadership Group is supporting this proposition, and is trying to get chambers of commerce. This is based allegedly on a research paper from the Public Policy Council of California. League of Women Voters? > > No on 14 literature--we need to reproduce it and fold it (5 minutes) Caroline, Spenser > Look at the materials on the Green party web site. *** Anyone please send comments on this to Spencer. Brian will create an "no on 14" logo. Jim S: Should not have the Green party logo on it. Werner and Tian went to the kick-off for Prop 14. They are very organized have a good chance to win. Prop 14 eliminates write-ins for the general election. #################### Phone banking (Merrriam): > > Proposition 15 (5 minutes) anyone who went to the Campaign kickoff > > > Nazis (2 minutes) Caroline > The Nazi party has permit for a meeting at the LA City Hall (?) on Sat., April 17. Caroline will stand somewhere with a "Say No to Nazis" party. Show up and help David _____________. > > Berryessa Art and Wine Festival (10 minutes) Warner, Caroline, Dale > Volunteer to work the middle of the day, May 8, the day before Mother's day. Tian will help. Please come at noon. Dale & Werner will set up. 8:30 - noon. Tian noon - 3 or 4. Caroline & Dale will come the last 2 hours. Fred will also go noon - 3 or 4. Werner will email Fred. Jim Doyle: We have a reservation and a confirmation. Cameron produced a list of Greens in that zip code for phone banking. Cameron: We must protect these lists. Caroline: We must not leave early. > > Calendar of events and selection of people responsible for them(15 minutes) Andrea, Caroline, Jim Doyle > Jim Doyle: We've received an email from a group at Santa Clara U. Caroline will pick up Tian for this at Santa Clara U. and will take him and the stuff home. Fred will table Apr. 22 at SJSU. Tian will help. Fred to pick up Tain & the stuff. Need someone to call De Anza or we don't do De Anza. Junior State is exciting. We must make many marijuana buttons. Brian does not want to do Jr. State alone. Jim S. will take a shift. (1 - 4 PM?) Brian can bring his box and will pick up the sunflower banner, etc., and will pick the stuff up from Fred and will drop it off at Caroline's. Merriam and Caroline will do the "Be an Artist Day". Caroline has a button machine. She will host a button party next Sunday, Apr. 11, 1 or 2 PM. Fred has a small button machine. All we need is a 2.25" circles. Tian to make a sign saying, "I pledge to pay off my credit card every month." Then have people sign it and have their picture taken with it. > > Walmart expansion in Milpitas (5 minutes) Andrea (Andrea not here.) > Media ignoring the Green party. Fred: We have a good candidate for Governor but no one knows. We need to think about doing something newsworthy. Jim S. has made progress putting together a coalition. ############################# Food for Thought (Merriam): Who: against major banks + Tian's "pay off credit card each month" + No on 14 + Yes on 15 + health care + immigration Where: Prefer in San Jose near SJSU. Need a place with a kitchen or kitchen facility. Werner will look into the North Side Community Center. May 24 at 5 PM. Merriam can check the First Christian church. Caroline will call SJ Parks & Rec on behalf of the Green party ... Caroline will email Dale regarding a place (e.g., a community center): for Sat., May 22. Merriam: We've looked at places for $100 but have not had to pay that much. something 3 -10 PM (for an event 5 -8). Would accept a great place for $120. Werner will write a phone script: I'm a volunteer for the Green party, and I'm calling to invite you to some events. ... (1) issues on the ballot, esp. Prop 14. (2) Berryessa. (3) Food for Thought, etc. But Werner needs the info to write it. Tom to ask Tom Hartman if he'd come and talk. Merriam will come to Caroline's at ~ 1 PM this Sunday. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To speed things up and let people think about which events they would like to participate in, I have included what I know about upcoming things for April and May. > > > April 21--Earth Day at Santa Clara University 10:00-4:00 > > April22--Earth Day at SJSU 10:00-2 or 3 > > April 24--Junior State (is this the right date?) > April ? De Anza--someone want to contact De Anza ASB? > > > May8--Berryessa Art and Wine Festival > > May 16--Be an Artist Day, Milpitas > May ? Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition--healthcare forum at Andrew Hill High School, 9-3:00. Good chance for outreach to Latino and Vietnamese students. Take voter registration forms. > ------------------------------------------------- > For those who want to get more into Earth Day, Acterra has Weed Warriors every Wednesday at Arastradero Preserve; Earth Day Workday celebration April 10, 20, and 24, Redwood Grove. Los Altos; April 17 San Francisquito Creek workday; April 20, Third Tuesday Habitat Restoration; April 24, Waterwise Landscaping Conference: Slow the Flow. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For those who want to do more for peace, here are some regularly scheduled vigils for peace and justice: > Mondays, 5-6 pm, Corner of Market and San Carlos.Justice for Palestinians. > Peace Discussions, Fourth Monday of most months. 7:30-8:30 pm Sunnyvale Presbyterian Church, Fremont and Hollenbeck. > Wednesdays, 4:45-6:00 pm peace vigil corner of Embarcadero and El Camino, Palo Alto. > Thursdays, 5:30-6:30 in Willow Glen, SW corner of Lincoln and Minnesota. Willow Glen Peace Action. > Fridays, 5-6:00 in front of Martin Luther King Library, peace vigil. > Fourth Fridays of each month 12:10-12:50 at Lockheed Martin Gates, Java and Mathilda in Sunnyvale. > Saturdays and Sundays 11:30 am-2 pm, Winchester and Stevens Creek, San Jose, near Valley Fair and Santana Row. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Prop14c.doc Type: application/msword Size: 19456 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fredd at freeshell.org Thu Apr 8 23:43:18 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:43:18 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: USGP-INT Ready to send - GP RELEASE Greens: US must press Israel to end settlements; divestment urged as Israeli outrages continue Message-ID: <4BBECC86.9030801@freeshell.org> Friends: FYI Fred D. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: USGP-INT Ready to send - GP RELEASE Greens: US must press Israel to end settlements; divestment urged as Israeli outrages continue Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 14:04:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McLarty To: usgp-int at gp-us.org This is ready to go out to the media. We have five approvals (Holly, Farheen, Jason, Jody, Sanda). Thanks everyone who helped, especially to Justine& other folks in the International Committee. -- Scott * * * * * GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES http://www.gp.org For Immediate Release: Thursday, April 8, 2010 Contacts: Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, cell 202-904-7614, mclarty at greens.org Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, starlene at gp.org Greens: President Obama must press Israel to end East Jerusalem settlements ? Green Party urges divestment as Israeli outrages mount ? Green Party Speakers Bureau: Greens available to speak on foreign policy http://www.gp.org/speakers/speakers-foreign-policy.php WASHINGTON, DC -- President Obama must put pressure on Israel immediately to stop the construction of settlements and displacement of Palestinians in East Jerusalem, Green Party leaders and candidates said today. "President Obama should send Prime Minister Netanyahu a message: enough is enough. If Israel continues to violate Palestinian human rights, the US must cancel the $30 million military aid package pledged to Israel for 2009-2018. The plan to build 1,600 housing units for Israeli Jews in East Jerusalem is the latest outrage. Although a rumored US abstension from a possible UN Security Council resolution against the settlements would be an improvement over its usual veto on Israel's behalf, this would still be an act of moral cowardice," said Sanda Everette, co-chair of the Green Party of the United States. (News story on the possible UN resolution: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/8591714.stm) "The White House's angry response to the East Jerusalem settlement announcement was a necessary first step, but it needs to be followed by concrete action, like support for a UN resolution against the settlements or actually withdrawing military aid. President Obama should show the kind of leadership that led Eisenhower to demand that Israel leave Sinai in 1955," said Ms. Everette. The Green Party has demanded that the US end military assistance to Israel, which has used such aid to displace Palestinians from their homes and farm lands, hold them in concentration camp conditions, maintain Bantustans in the style of apartheid-era South Africa, and launch illegal military assaults such as last year's bloody invasion of Gaza. "While the international community has been unable to deal with Israel's violations after decades of UN resolutions, civil society has increasingly endorsed BDS (boycott, divestment, sanctions) as a powerful nonviolent strategy to pressure Israel into ending the Palestinian occupation and guaranteeing equality for all in Israel-Palestine. In 2005, the Green Party endorsed a BDS resolution (http://www.gp.org/press/pr_2005_11_28.shtml) comparable to the one passed by the Senate of the Associated Students of UC Berkeley in March," said Derek Grigsby, Green candidate for State Representative in Michigan, District 7 (dereknjck at yahoo.com). The Berkeley students' bill calls on the university to divest its assets from two General Electric and United Technologies for "materially and militarily supporting the Israeli government's occupation of the Palestinian territories" and to advocate that the UC, with about $135 million invested in companies that profit from Israel's illegal actions in the Occupied Territories (http://blogs.asuc.org/2010/03/18/announcements/sb-118-amended-passed). Greens have urged the White House and Congress to reject the influence of AIPAC and to establish Middle East policy based on recognition that the rights of Palestinians must be equal to the rights of Israelis, on peaceful negotiation to resolve the conflict, and complete regional nuclear disarmament. Greens have noted the hypocrisy of applying sanctions against Iran for its alleged nuclear ambitions without insisting that Israel get rid of its nuclear weapons -- especially since Israel, unlike Iran, has launched military attacks on other countries. (See "Arab Leaders Call for Middle East Free of Nuclear Weapons" Earth Times March 28, 2010, http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/316159,arab-leaders-call-for-middle-east-free-of-nuclear-weapons.html#ixzz0jUbcWzVi) "We encourage Israeli and Palestinian leaders -- and President Obama -- to follow the lead of human rights activists like Dr. Mazin Qumsiyeh, organizer of the Wheels of Justice tour (http://justicewheels.org). In his embrace of nonviolent resistance as a tactic for justice, Dr. Qumsiyeh continues an often unrecognized history of Palestinian non-violent resistance and keeps alive the tradition of Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King. In response, the Israeli army has targeted him for arrest," said Tony Affigne, Rhode Island Green and member of the party's International Committee (http://www.gp.org/committees/intl). Dr. Qumsiyeh (http://qumsiyeh.org), former associate professor of genetics at the Yale University School of Medicine and a member of the Green Party of Connecticut before he moved back to Palestine, wrote about his experiences in a New Haven Register op-ed published on March 9, 2010 ("Peaceful protest in Israel can lead to arrest," http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/03/09/opinion/doc4b95ab40a3642160727871.txt). "The US's uncritical support for Israel and flow of military and financial aid endanger US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and threaten US security and global stability. Even Gen. Petraeus and VP Biden have admitted this," said Rodger Jennings, Green candidate for US Congress in Illinois, District 12 (http://www.rodgerjennings.org). (See "The Petraeus briefing: Biden?s embarrassment is not the whole story," Foreign Policy, March 13, 2010, http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/03/14/the_petraeus_briefing_biden_s_embarrassment_is_not_the_whole_story). "The Gaza assault, which couldn't have happened without US weapons, was a major turning point for people worldwide, including many American Jews. Like the misery that continues for Gazans, the memory of that horrific assault lingers." Greens note that, until recently, a campaign to silence critics of Israeli policies and actions helped maintain unilateral support for Israel, especially in the US, and that censorship of such criticism has sustained the conflict. Many US Greens expressed alarm when the Heinrich Boell Foundation (http://www.boell.de), a legally independent political foundation affiliated with the German Green Party, canceled February speaking engagements in Germany by Dr. Norman Finkelstein, an American Jewish scholar, child of Holocaust survivors, and author of books on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the politics of the Holocaust (http://www.normanfinkelstein.com). "There is increasing recognition that the two-state solution is not viable. Israel-Palestine is already a de facto single state, mainly because of Israel's illegal settlement policies, with over 500,000 Israeli Jews living in the Palestinian Occupied Territories. It's time to consider the one-state solution -- one homeland for both peoples -- with a secular democracy that ensures full and equal rights regardless of religion or ethnicity, " said Farheen Hakeem, co-chair of the Green Party of the United States. (See "Palestinians Increasingly Back 1-State," Jerusalem Post, March 22, 2010, http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=171559 and "Who's Afraid of a One-State Solution?" by Dmitry Reider, Foreign Policy, March 31, http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/03/31/whos_afraid_of_a_one_state_solution) MORE INFORMATION Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org 202-319-7191, 866-41GREEN ? Green candidate database and campaign information: http://www.gp.org/elections.shtml ? Green Party News Center http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml ? Green Party Speakers Bureau http://www.gp.org/speakers ? Green Party ballot access page http://www.gp.org/2008-elections ? Green Party Livestream Channel http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus "Ensure Israel arms curbs, say MPs" BBC News, March 30, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8594402.stm "Open Letter to Berkeley Students on their Historic Israeli Divestment Bill" By Naomi Klein, Common Dreams, March 31, 2010 http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/03/31-9 "Palestinians increasingly back 1-state" Jerusalem Post, March 22, 2010 http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=171559 "US Can't Afford Military Aid to Israel" Josh Ruebner, The Huffington Post, February 26, 2010 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-ruebner/us-cant-afford-military-a_b_478104.html "Evidence of misuse of US weapons in Gaza" Amnesty International, February 23, 2009 http://www.amnesty.org.au/news/comments/20277 US Campaign to End the Occupation http://www.endtheoccupation.org Green Pages: The official publication of record of the Green Party of the United States Winter 2010 issue now online http://gp.org/greenpages-blog ~ END ~ _______________________________________________ usgp-int mailing list usgp-int at gp-us.org http://forum.greens.org/mailman/listinfo/usgp-int -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Fred D. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: USGP-INT Advisory: Progressive/Green candidate for US Senate to walk across Missouri for nuclear disarmament; press conference in Columbia, Apr. 10 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McLarty To: usgp-int at gp-us.org, outreach-cmte at gp-us.org (Distributed by the Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org) Midge Potts for Senate 2010 http://www.electmidge.com MEDIA ADVISORY Contact: Midge Potts, 417-893-1398, midge at electmidge.com Jay Marx, Proposition One Committee, 202-368-4690, marxjay at gmail.com Midge Potts to Hold Press Conference in Columbia Progressive Party US Senate Candidate to Outline Details of Walk across Missouri WHEN: April 10th, 2010, 3:30 PM WHERE: Commission Chambers of the County Government Building 801 E. Walnut, Columbia Missouri Columbia, MO - Saturday April 10th, Midge Potts, Progressive/Green Candidate for US Senate, will hold a press conference at County Government Building in Columbia Missouri to explain why she is walking for nuclear disarmament, and to announce the details of the route and tentative schedule of her walk that will take her from the Ameren nuclear reactor in Callaway County to the Honeywell nuke bomb parts factory in Kansas City. After the press conference, she will begin her walk in the Reform Conservation Area which surrounds the nuclear power plant. She said she intends to conclude her walk on May 1st, the anniversary of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Potts' walk will coincide with the Proposition One Nuclear Disarmament Walk that will leave the nation's capitol on April 8th and will arrive in New York City on May 1st where there will be a conference renegotiating the NPT this year at the United Nations. "We are thankful that Midge will be walking in solidarity with our trek to raise awareness about the need for complete global nuclear disarmament," said Jay Marx of the Proposition One in 2010 campaign based in Washington DC. "I feel it is important to raise awareness about nuclear disarmament at this time when the Obama administration is offering the American people rhetoric claiming the US and Russia have reached an agreement to reduce nuclear stockpiles," Said Potts, "The United States has over 4000 excess weapons waiting to be dismantled, in addition to the 2400 nukes on high alert. If President Obama is sincere, I would like to know why the Department of Energy budget for dismantling these weapons is being cut by 38 million dollars which is one third of the current budget for this operation. The budget for dismantling Americas massive nuclear stockpile should be increasing in anticipation of the possible reductions being heralded by the White House. To make matters more confusing, the budget for developing nuclear weapons is being increased by 5 billion dollars over the next 5 years. The US currently spends over 50 billion dollars a year to maintain and secure nuclear weapons." Potts Added "The money being wasted on America 's nuclear arms program should be diverted directly to dismantling these barbaric weapons and to cleaning up the radioactive sites where they have been built and housed. Over half a trillion dollars has been spent in the last ten years on US nukes. I believe this money would be better spent to save lives by providing funds for universal health care for all Americans; this would put us much closer to being able to achieve balanced budgets without raising taxes. If elected to the US Senate, I will introduce the Nuclear Disarmament and Economic Conversion Act, currently submitted by DC Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton in the House of Representatives as HR 1653. If enacted, this bill would help nuclear arms production facilities, such as the Honeywell plant in Kansas City , to be retooled in order to make products such as windmills and solar panels in Americas 21st century green economy." Potts released a statement on Tuesday saying that her disarmament walk will take her from Missouri 's only nuclear energy production facility to Jefferson City , then onward through California , Tipton, Sedalia , Knob Noster and Warrensburg along highway 50 before arriving in Kansas City on May 1st. She said that she will also walk a circle around Whiteman Air Force Base where America 's nuclear capable B-2 bombers are stationed. Midge Potts, co-chair of the Progressive Party of Missouri, is the party's candidate for U.S. Senator in 2010. She and other party members are circulating petitions to get Ms. Potts and other Progressive Party candidates on the Missouri ballot this year. ###END### _______________________________________________ usgp-int mailing list usgp-int at gp-us.org http://forum.greens.org/mailman/listinfo/usgp-int -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Apr 9 01:31:24 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:31:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [wcevents] Climate Wise Women, Sunday April 18th, 7pm. Message-ID: <4BBEE5DC.2010506@aceweb.com> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Aseem Das" Subject: [wcevents] Climate Wise Women, Sunday April 18th, 7pm. Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 19:43:02 -0700 Size: 50341 URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Apr 9 13:25:20 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:25:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Agenda for April meeting In-Reply-To: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BBF8D30.3010804@prodsyse.com> Hello All: Attached please find the updated bookmark revised with Tian's button art; Thanks, Tian. I'm resending this, as the last version bounced as too big. If anyone would like a *.pdf version of the attachment, please let me know. Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They all call for building a mass demonstration to oppose a National Socialist Movement (NSM) rally for Hitler?s birthday being held in downtown L.A. on April 17. ??????????? And they are joined by some 25 other grassroots community leaders and organizations. ??????????? The call for the protest was initiated by the Freedom Socialist Party (FSP), which has helped organize demonstrations against white supremacists in Simi Valley after the Rodney King verdict and more recently against anti-immigrant Minutemen in Leimert Park and at the U.S./Mexico border. Says FSP spokesperson Yolanda Alaniz, ?Like the Hutaree militia arrested in the Midwest at the end of March, NSM hopes to recruit out of the economic crisis, especially by scapegoating immigrants. Their program is based on bigotry, ours on civil rights. They lie and say they are socialists, but they are the opposite.? On their website the NSM proclaim their intent to ?reclaim the Southwest.? They call for building a nation of all-whites, free of immigrants, Jews, homosexuals, and ?pro-Marxist unions?, where abortion is a crime and fathers are patriarchal rulers in the family. James Lafferty, Executive Director of the National Lawyers Guild, L.A., joined the call, saying, ?history clearly shows that when good people fail to take Nazi rallies seriously, they and other neo-fascist groups grow ever stronger. Only when people are quick to massively mobilize against them can their defeat be assured." ?Alaniz added ?NSM would like to recruit people like those in the Tea Party. I know some join that movement because they are hurt by the housing crisis and angry about bank bailouts. It?s true, working people are under attack, but, fascism is not the solution! When they resort to scapegoating and racism out of fear, when they allow ultra-right groups like NSM and Christian patriot militias in their midst, they open the door to a Nazi movement.?? ???????????? Anti-Nazi organizers hope for a large, broad-based, multi-hued and multi-gendered gathering to drown out the NSM. Among those adding their voice to this call are T Santora, President, CWA 9000; the Here to Stay Coalition; Sonia Bautista, President of REFORMA, L.A.; two organizers of the March 4 student protests; the Frente Farabundo Mart? para la Liberaci?n Nacional (FMLN/LA); Marie Cartier, PhD at Cal State Northridge?s Gender and Women Studies Department; Circulo Mictlanxiuhcoatl; the Campaign to End Israeli Apartheid, Southern California; and? AIDS activist J.T. Anderson. ??????????? Initiated by the Peace and Freedom Party, the Riverside community twice recently outnumbered and foiled the NSM as they harassed day labors and attempted to hold anti-immigrant rallies, claiming they were ?standing up for American workers.? In the last two years, the Riverside NSM chapter has also flaunted swastika flags outside a Jewish temple during Hanukkah and patrolled the U.S./Mexico border, boasting they were ?armed up.? ???????????? ?Hitler himself said that the Nazis could have been stopped when they were just small bands of thugs attacking unionists and socialists,? points out Alaniz. ?Let?s not let these white supremacist get a foothold in California!? ???????????? The anti-Nazi demonstration is meeting at 11:00 am at First and Spring, at the Southwest corner of the City Hall block. The NSM has a permit for the south lawn of City Hall beginning at noon. ???????????? Weekly work parties are being held every Wednesday at 7:00pm. For more information, contact the Freedom Socialist Party at 323-732-6416 or fspla at earthlink.net. www.socialism.com ? April 7, 2010 ? 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The Californian Fair Elections Campaign is holding a speakers training and volunteer orientations for Proposition 15, the California Fair Elections Act in Aptos on April 11. * Learn the details of the California Fair Elections Act * See how well public financing has worked in other states * Hone your message in support of Fair Elections * Help educate voters on the need to get politicians out of the fundraising game The training is appropriate if you'd like to join our Speaker's Program, learn how to talk about the Prop 15, California Fair Elections Act to your friends or neighbors, or would just like to learn more! Speaker Training in the Monterey Bay Area More details here. When:? Sunday, April 11 ????????????2:00PM to 4:00PM Where:? Aptos Grange ?????????????2555 mar Vista Dr ?????????????Aptos 95003 PLEASE REGISTER so we know how many speaker's packets to bring. If you can't make it to one of these trainings contact us to find out how you can become involved in other activities by visiting our listing of local events here. There's less than two months until the vote, so get involved to take advantage of this historic opportunity to pass Fair Elections in California! Trent Lange Chair, Yes on Proposition 15 Californians for Fair Elections Ways You Can Help Pass Fair Elections ??? ??? ? Share this message with your friends! This email was sent to carolineyacoub at att.net by newsletter at caclean.org. Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe? | Privacy Policy. Email Marketing by California Clean Money Action Fund | 11844 W. Pico Blvd., Suite 200 | Los Angeles | CA | 90064 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sun Apr 11 14:41:06 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:41:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Water District. Message-ID: <4BC241F2.7020505@charter.net> The Water District has a meeting on Tuesday. They have a process by which you can use the internet to submit commentary on agenda items. Item IV.6 on the agenda relates to an expression of support for 4 pieces of legislation. I am adamantly opposed to two of these. HR 3750 (Costa) and S 1759 (Feinstein). My comment was. > I am in complete opposition to any gesture of support for H.R. 3750 > (Costa) or S 1759 (Feinstein). Both of these measures are designed to > make it easier to circumvent both ecological controls and the needs of > those most affected by any easing regulation of delta water. There are > much better ways to arrive at long range resolutions that ensure we > meet the legitimate needs of the Californians. The best example is > the process by which the Middle Rio Grande agreements were reached in > New Mexico, a process that ensures buy-in at each step. I identified myself as a "member" Green Party SCC. You canalso comment at http://cf.valleywater.org/About_Us/Board_of_directors/Board_meetings/comment-form-ek.cfm and I encourage others to do so. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From jims at greens.org Sun Apr 11 15:08:27 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:08:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 14 Bookmarks [WAS Agenda for April meeting] In-Reply-To: <4BBE9ECF.2020905@prodsyse.com> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BBE9ECF.2020905@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <4BC2485B.6090103@greens.org> I raised concerns about this at the monthly meeting. To repeat, this simply isn't an accurate statement on Prop 14. What the proponents say is not accurately stated. The "Facts" are not correct. And the position points of the 'No on 14' coalition are not being reflected. ballotpedia.org is not the best source. StopTopTwo.org and cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/ would be much better. I suggest rewriting from these sources. Particularly aggravating is the reference to Republicans and Democrats opposing this. As I said, they're not advertising their opposition because other opponents to this are anti-two-party. Hearing Republicrats oppose it will make them vote for it. As an example, the Mercury News ran an editorial supporting Prop 14 and specifically mentioned that the Republicrats oppose it. Take the time to do this right. Going out as it is will work against us. If people are interested in a small flyer, a quarter sheet handout has just been added to http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/. Jim On 4/8/2010 8:28 PM, spencerg wrote: > Hello All: > > > Attached please find a minor revision of the previous bookmark template. > The content is the same. Some formatting was changed to work around a > bug in how Open Office handles MS Word *.doc format. Spencer > > ##################### > A correction to the notes and an update on the Prop 14 bookmark: > > > CORRECTION (from Jim Doyle): Warner and Tian (and Merriam) went to a > kickoff meeting of proposition 15 (not no on 14.) > > > **** NOTE: Please feel free to "reply to all" with corrections to the > notes. That will accelerate the process of sharing the information, and > will NOT hurt my feelings. > > > PROP 14 BOOKMARK: > > > 1. This must be completed by Sunday noon, if I understand correctly, as > they will be produced at Caroline's Sunday PM. > > > 2. Tian volunteered to produce "NO 14" art for this. This task must be > completed before Sunday noon to meet the production schedule per item 1 > above. > > > 3. Attached (and copied below) is the current status of the bookmark, > revised per a suggestion from Jim Doyle. > > > Please everyone feel free to suggest revisions, experiment with > alternatives, etc. Keep in mind, however, that sometimes the more we > say, the less we communicate. For this bookmark, if we increase the word > count much, we will need a larger bookmark. That will increase our > production costs, giving us fewer bookmarks per sheet of paper, > increasing the labor required for each, wasted paper or card stock that > must be sent to the landfill or recycled, etc. > > > Best Wishes, > Spencer > ######################## > [put " > No 14" > art > here] > No on Prop 14 > > Title: ?Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections? > > Direct Effect: Create a single ballot primary with only the top two > competing in the general. > > Proponents say it will increase democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Facts: Louisiana had this system for 30 years (1978-2006) and only one > incumbent lost. Similarly, only one incumbent lost when Washington used > it in 2008. It could be accurately describes as, "The reelection > security act of 2010." > > Supporters include: Incumbents, Chambers of Commerce, Schwarzenegger > > Opponents include: Chairs of the California Republican and Democratic > Parties, ACLU, Green Party, Ralph Nader > > More info: ?California Proposition 14 (2010)? in ?ballotpedia.org? > > > > > ######################### > On 4/7/2010 12:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> >> Wednesday, April 7, 2010 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 7:30 Meeting opens. Selection of Facilitator, Time Keeper, Note Taker, >> and Vibes Watcher. Introductions and announcements (10 minutes) >> > Caroline, facilitator; Tom Donahue (timekeeper), Santa Clara; Cameron > Spitzer; Spencer Graves (notetaker), Brian Good > Fred Duperrault; Merriam Kathleen; Tian Harter (vibes watcher); Jim > Doyle (agenda for next month); Jim Stauffer; Werner Bloomberg. >> >> Treasurer's Report (5 minutes) Jim Doyle; At the plenary, we got >> $2003.90 intake; expenses not yet known. (one major bill $1020). >> Bought too much food. > **** Everyone holding receipts, please send to Jim. >> >> Plenary Report--plenary business (10 minutes) delegates; >> > Werner: I thought it was good in terms of business accomplished, esp. > ballot initiatives, GPUS delegates pro forma election. Normal platform > hash. Green issues pared down their issues to 3. As soon as the > marajuana initiative is endorsed by the Secretary of State, etc., > automatic yes, ban on abortions for minor, no; ... > > Tom: Impressed with how quickly the budget was approved. > > Tian: > >> >> Plenary Report--logistics report (10 minutes) Merriam, food, Fred, >> lodging, Caroline, schwag, Jim Doyle, money: >> > Merriam: Thank Brian for all his work in the kitchen. > Caroline: Thank Jim for finding such a great space. > No complaints from anyone. Appreciate all the people who opened their > homes, etc. > > Need someone to help make more swag. Sold buttons, tee shirts, etc., > except for the rocks. > Werner has a box of unopened drinks for the next event (Merriam: next > "Food for Thought") > Never do muffins again. Vinagrette was by far the most popular dressing. > Coffee was a big seller. > > Andrea is supposed to make a report from notes taken at the debriefing > meeting. > > ANYONE WITH INFO ON THIS: SEND TO ANDREA. > > Werner: Recipes for the two main items: for the next Green Focus. > When's the deadline? >> >> That being said, do we want to host the national meeting? (10 minutes) >> discussion >> > Merriam: No. > Werner: We're still debriefing. The national organization will have > responsibility for all costs. Responsibility of local host ... > Proceeds split between national and local. Werner will continue asking > about this. > > How many local volunteers would be needed? Need the entire bay area. > > Jim S: Hosting a national meeting should be several counties > collaborating, not just one. Werner agrees. National meeting June or > July 2012. > > Werner: Need to have the site reservation locked in a year before the > event. Need space for 1,000. Will ask SJSU about cafeteria & dorms. > Jim S: Get dorms at a university. Jim will get a list of other people to > contact. > >> >> Regional Rep position (5 minutes) Jim Stauffer >> > How to fill the spot? Cindy _________ has resigned. > > One regional rep spot is vacant. > > Jim Doyle: Cindy went to the Muslim Youth Council and made a pitch. > Brian: She said she had done a great job, she thought. >> >> Proposition 14 (10 minutes) Jim Stauffer >> > No organized opposition. > > We need a coalition -- the Greens should try to form a coalition to try > to help oppose this. > > Californians for Electoral Reform. > > Free and Equal Elections Foundation (?) > > Silicon Valley Leadership Group is supporting this proposition, and is > trying to get chambers of commerce. This is based allegedly on a > research paper from the Public Policy Council of California. > > League of Women Voters? > >> >> No on 14 literature--we need to reproduce it and fold it (5 minutes) >> Caroline, Spenser >> > Look at the materials on the Green party web site. > > *** Anyone please send comments on this to Spencer. > > Brian will create an "no on 14" logo. > > Jim S: Should not have the Green party logo on it. > > > Werner and Tian went to the kick-off for Prop 14. They are very > organized have a good chance to win. > > Prop 14 eliminates write-ins for the general election. > > #################### > Phone banking (Merrriam): > >> >> Proposition 15 (5 minutes) anyone who went to the Campaign kickoff >> >> >> Nazis (2 minutes) Caroline >> > The Nazi party has permit for a meeting at the LA City Hall (?) on Sat., > April 17. > > Caroline will stand somewhere with a "Say No to Nazis" party. > > Show up and help David _____________. > > > >> >> Berryessa Art and Wine Festival (10 minutes) Warner, Caroline, Dale >> > Volunteer to work the middle of the day, May 8, the day before Mother's > day. Tian will help. Please come at noon. Dale & Werner will set up. > 8:30 - noon. Tian noon - 3 or 4. > Caroline & Dale will come the last 2 hours. Fred will also go noon - 3 > or 4. > Werner will email Fred. > > Jim Doyle: We have a reservation and a confirmation. Cameron produced a > list of Greens in that zip code for phone banking. > > > Cameron: We must protect these lists. > > > Caroline: We must not leave early. > >> >> Calendar of events and selection of people responsible for them(15 >> minutes) Andrea, Caroline, Jim Doyle >> > Jim Doyle: We've received an email from a group at Santa Clara U. > > Caroline will pick up Tian for this at Santa Clara U. and will take him > and the stuff home. > > Fred will table Apr. 22 at SJSU. Tian will help. Fred to pick up Tain & > the stuff. > > Need someone to call De Anza or we don't do De Anza. > > Junior State is exciting. We must make many marijuana buttons. > > Brian does not want to do Jr. State alone. Jim S. will take a shift. (1 > - 4 PM?) > Brian can bring his box and will pick up the sunflower banner, etc., and > will pick the stuff up from Fred and will drop it off at Caroline's. > > Merriam and Caroline will do the "Be an Artist Day". > > Caroline has a button machine. She will host a button party next Sunday, > Apr. 11, 1 or 2 PM. > > Fred has a small button machine. > All we need is a 2.25" circles. > > Tian to make a sign saying, "I pledge to pay off my credit card every > month." Then have people sign it and have their picture taken with it. > >> >> Walmart expansion in Milpitas (5 minutes) Andrea (Andrea not here.) >> > > Media ignoring the Green party. > > Fred: We have a good candidate for Governor but no one knows. > > We need to think about doing something newsworthy. > > Jim S. has made progress putting together a coalition. > > ############################# > > Food for Thought (Merriam): > > Who: against major banks + Tian's "pay off credit card each month" + No > on 14 + Yes on 15 + health care + immigration > > Where: Prefer in San Jose near SJSU. Need a place with a kitchen or > kitchen facility. Werner will look into the North Side Community Center. > > May 24 at 5 PM. > > Merriam can check the First Christian church. > > Caroline will call SJ Parks & Rec on behalf of the Green party ... > > Caroline will email Dale regarding a place (e.g., a community center): > for Sat., May 22. > > Merriam: We've looked at places for $100 but have not had to pay that > much. something 3 -10 PM (for an event 5 -8). Would accept a great place > for $120. > > Werner will write a phone script: > > I'm a volunteer for the Green party, and I'm calling to invite you to > some events. ... > > (1) issues on the ballot, esp. Prop 14. > > (2) Berryessa. > > (3) Food for Thought, etc. > > > But Werner needs the info to write it. > > Tom to ask Tom Hartman if he'd come and talk. > > Merriam will come to Caroline's at ~ 1 PM this Sunday. > > > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To speed things up and let people think about which events they would >> like to participate in, I have included what I know about upcoming >> things for April and May. >> >> >> April 21--Earth Day at Santa Clara University 10:00-4:00 >> >> April22--Earth Day at SJSU 10:00-2 or 3 >> >> April 24--Junior State (is this the right date?) >> April ? De Anza--someone want to contact De Anza ASB? >> >> >> May8--Berryessa Art and Wine Festival >> >> May 16--Be an Artist Day, Milpitas >> May ? Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition--healthcare >> forum at Andrew Hill High School, 9-3:00. Good chance for outreach to >> Latino and Vietnamese students. Take voter registration forms. >> ------------------------------------------------- >> For those who want to get more into Earth Day, Acterra has Weed >> Warriors every Wednesday at Arastradero Preserve; Earth Day Workday >> celebration April 10, 20, and 24, Redwood Grove. Los Altos; April 17 >> San Francisquito Creek workday; April 20, Third Tuesday Habitat >> Restoration; April 24, Waterwise Landscaping Conference: Slow the Flow. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For those who want to do more for peace, here are some regularly >> scheduled vigils for peace and justice: >> Mondays, 5-6 pm, Corner of Market and San Carlos.Justice for >> Palestinians. >> Peace Discussions, Fourth Monday of most months. 7:30-8:30 pm >> Sunnyvale Presbyterian Church, Fremont and Hollenbeck. >> Wednesdays, 4:45-6:00 pm peace vigil corner of Embarcadero and El >> Camino, Palo Alto. >> Thursdays, 5:30-6:30 in Willow Glen, SW corner of Lincoln and >> Minnesota. Willow Glen Peace Action. >> Fridays, 5-6:00 in front of Martin Luther King Library, peace vigil. >> Fourth Fridays of each month 12:10-12:50 at Lockheed Martin Gates, >> Java and Mathilda in Sunnyvale. >> Saturdays and Sundays 11:30 am-2 pm, Winchester and Stevens Creek, San >> Jose, near Valley Fair and Santana Row. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From tnharter at aceweb.com Sun Apr 11 23:17:59 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:17:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Carol Brouillet's new blog. Message-ID: <4BC2BB17.4050608@aceweb.com> Riding back from the green festival, Carol told me about Splitting the Sky, who is locked up in the Canadian legal system for arresting Bush. She has quite a bit of material about it on her blog. Check it out at: http://communitycurrency.org/newblog.html -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added NO ON 14 and NO ON 16 buttons to my website. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Apr 11 23:45:57 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:45:57 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Carol Brouillet's new blog. In-Reply-To: <4BC2BB17.4050608@aceweb.com> References: <4BC2BB17.4050608@aceweb.com> Message-ID: I wrote to Splitting-the-Sky (Dacajeweiah) about a year ago to warn him that one of the people Carol's buddy Dr. Kevin Barrett was encouraging him to endorse was a liar and a con man. He never wrote back, but as far as I know he never endorsed William Rodriguez's 9/11 bullshit again. B > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:17:59 -0700 > From: tnharter at aceweb.com > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Carol Brouillet's new blog. > > Riding back from the green festival, Carol told me about Splitting the > Sky, who is locked up in the Canadian legal system for arresting Bush. > She has quite a bit of material about it on her blog. Check it out at: > > http://communitycurrency.org/newblog.html > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > Latest change: added NO ON 14 and NO ON 16 buttons to my website. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbrouillet at igc.org Mon Apr 12 06:47:35 2010 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:47:35 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Brian Good's Relentless Attacks on Kevin Barrett Message-ID: Brian Good was banned from the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance meetings and our e-mail list. He attended our last meeting, when Kevin Barrett and his wife, Fatna were there. They had been invited to join us for a potluck dinner prior to the meeting. Brian wore black and a giant V for Vendetta mask, and at some point rudely verbally attacked Dr. Barrett, and of course he gave his flyer/handout to all who would take them, when they left the meeting. Brian's behavior surprised and shocked people. Kevin didn't try to defend himself verbally, especially since he had spoken before Brian came and we had already had a lengthy dialogue with him, and whatever issues/questions the group had about Kevin's work had already been answered. I felt badly about all the relentless attacks Brian has launched against Kevin and William Rodriguez, who have probably helped the truth movement more than Brian, who has probably harmed the truth movement more than they have. I also was late for the dinner (which Ken Jenkins and I were hosting) It took me an hour and forty-five minutes to get to Berkeley- so I was an hour late with much of the food... I did go to Sacramento on Saturday to have brunch with Kevin and his wife, and local activists and to attend Kevin's 2nd talk at a private home in the suburbs of Sacramento organized by Sacramento's Peace Pyramid which was webcasted and is posted on http://noliesradio.org/archives/14447 No Lies Radio. People in Sacramento were shocked when Brian came and leafletted outside of the library where Kevin Barrett spoke on Friday night, but they were even more shocked when he showed up to leaflet in front of the private home where Kevin gave his 2nd talk. That event was also a potluck, and I went with a local organizer and Kevin's wife and we were a bit late- it started at 5 pm. They had already contacted the police and it was legal for Brian to leaflet on the sidewalk where he stood from before 5 pm to probably 1 am in the morning (when it was freezing cold). People felt that he was mentally disturbed. Kevin, his wife Fatna, organizers from Sacramento, after everyone left the event, went out and tried to speak reasonably with Brian. They realized he was a very lonely guy and obviously obsessed with his delusions. They were compassionate and Brian was very rude, to say the least, although Brian did manage to talk Kevin out of the last copy of the new edition of Questioning the War on Terror: A Primer for Obama Voters (Kevin had run out of books- people who had attended the Saturday night event had had to order them through Fatna) - so Brian actually got Kevin's only last hard copy, but Brian made a nasty joke about "Musliming Kevin down" on the price and giving him $5 instead of the $10 standard price. In response to Brian's behavior, a couple of people advised me to get a restraining order against Brian. Fatna, Kevin's wife, had, during the stressful time of Kevin's run for Congress taken out a restraining order against Kevin (which Brian was quick to blast all over the internet). Fatna explained to me that she had done it to keep Kevin away, because she loved Kevin still and knew if he spoke to her, he would woo her back, which is precisely what happened, he sent her flowers and she ended up getting back together with him. This was her first tour with him, where she had a chance to meet a lot of the other activists and she was favorably impressed (despite Brian) and has even said that she would allow Kevin or support him to run for Congress again. She is quite a strong, powerful, wonderful person and you can hear her in the webcast of the Sacramento event (probably) as she also spoke at that event. She told me what a pain in the neck the restraining orders are, and how one must tell the police every time whoever is given the restraining order attempts communication, or whoever issues the restraining order is legally in trouble. My husband urged me to call the police when I was getting death threats, and I really didn't like having to go over the whole experience with the police, and the follow-up. I also didn't take legal action when the police pulled me over when I was driving south on 101, held my 16 year old son and me at gunpoint, handcuffed me and held me in the back of a police car for 5- 10 minutes, while trying to figure out whether my son (still in braces) and me had committed armed robbery at midnight in Santa Rosa (just following the 4th night of the successful premiere of Barrie Zwicker's documentary- The Great Conspiracy- The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw. Barrie had also had the resource guides that he had shipped to me intercepted at the border, to be replaced by hardback books in Russian entitled "Paradise Lost." Barrie and I figured that the interception of materials and the handcuffing were not too subtle messages from those who had the ability to quench dissent to let us know that our actions were being monitored and were not appreciated. (I organized the first Citizen's International Inquiry into 9/11 in the US, and Barrie organized the 2nd one in Toronto). I don't want to have to deal with police/the courts unless I have to- it's a colossal drain on one's time and energy. A lot of people think Brian is Cointelpro- although I don't, but I think he does "behave" that way and should be getting a stipend from whatever division in the government that in charge of neutralizing dissent. It should be pretty clear to those on this list that I have stopped going to Green Party meetings/events because I don't want to see or have to deal with Brian, because of his delusions, his complete lack of trust of me, his relentless persecution of Kevin and William. Certainly I would have run for Congress again, if it wasn't for him and his obsessive monitoring of my every action and words. It's hard enough for me to challenge militarism without having to fight with the people I work with, so I am only doing my activism where I feel comfortable/safe with the people I am working with. I realize that the Green Party will not oust a volunteer nor am I asking it to oust Brian, but I will do my political work where I don't have to run into him, whenever possible. It infuriates me when he stalks me and photographs me when I'm trying to table. I wish the moderators would not allow him to use this list to vent his animosity towards Kevin Barrett and William Rodriguez, which I still believe is rooted in his feelings/not his brain. I think Brian's judgement is very questionable and I have no doubt that he condemns me for most of my judgements/actions. I'm sure he'll respond to this email- but I don't want to waste any more of my time on him. I plan to continue to ignore/avoid him, as best I can. My apologies to the group for not attending the meetings- if Brian does stop attending them - I might start going again. Carol Brouillet -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 12 14:46:38 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:46:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] dale warner web site Message-ID: <4BC394BE.5040801@sbcglobal.net> Feel free, no, I recommend looking at Dale Warner's web site, http://www.dalewarner.com/ He has been immigration lawyer, community activist, and one time candidate for city council. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Apr 13 17:56:25 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:56:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Torture and the Forever War" at Stanford Wed-Fri Message-ID: Mark Danner at Stanford Wed, Thurs. You might remember Danner's milestone articles in the New York Review of Books a year ago "US Torture: Voices from the Black Sites" http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/apr/09/us-torture-voices-from-the-black-sites/ and "The Red Cross Torture Report: What it Means" http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/apr/30/the-red-cross-torture-report-what-it-means/ Or you might have heard about Danner's recent book "Stripping Bare the Body: Politics, Violence, War" http://www.markdanner.com/books/show/21 He's delivering two lectures on "Torture and the Forever War: Living in the State of Exception". I hope a lot of people can come. Show the kids that no, they're not crazy, and no, torture is not OK. http://www.stanford.edu/group/reichresearch/cgi-bin/site/2010/03/17/2010-tanner-lectures-at-stanford-mark-danner-on-torture-and-the-forever-war/ Lecture 1: ?Imposing the State of Exception: Constitutional Dictatorship, Torture and Us? Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:30 pm ? 7:00 pm Building 320, Room 105 Lecture 1 Discussion Seminar Commentators: Eric Posner (Law, University of Chicago) and Colonel Steven Kleinman (Senior Intelligence Officer U.S. Air Force, 1985-present) Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:00 am ? 12:00 pm Landau Economics Building, SIEPR A Lecture 2: ?Naturalizing the State of Exception: Terror, Fear and the War Without End? Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:30 pm ? 7:00 pm Building 320, Room 105 Lecture 2 Discussion Seminar Elaine Scarry (Aesthetics and the General Theory of Value, Harvard) Stephen Holmes (Law, NYU) Friday, April 16, 2010 10:00 am ? 12:00 pm Landau Economics Building, SIEPR A Bld 320 is the corner of the Quad that's toward the ocean and toward Menlo Park. The Landau building is a new one on Galvez (extension of Embarcadero) next to Memorial Auditorium. This is the corner where protestors blocked Bush from speaking at the Hoover Institution in April 2006. Here's more information from the co-sponsor, the McCoy Center for Ethics in Society http://ethicsinsociety.stanford.edu/ethics-events/tanner-lectures/ If you know anyone who might be a financial contributor to Stanford, tell them that the Bowen H. McCoy Family Center for Ethics in Society has become a kind of escrow fund for contributors who wish to protest Stanford's tolerance of the war criminal Dr. Condoleezza Rice. Please ask your friend to divert their contributionsfrom the Stanford General Fund to the McCoy Center, and to tell Stanford exactly why they are doing so. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Apr 13 22:46:15 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:46:15 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Brian Good's Relentless Attacks on Kevin Barrett In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If a lie can get across half a world before truth can get its belt buckled, that's doubly true for a lie composed before sunrise, while truth was still snoozing through "Morning Edition". I did not spread news of Barrett's restraining order. Not even when Carol falsely proclaimed to this very list that I had harassed her physically and by telephone did I bring up Kev's domestic issues. Her claims, the claim that I have stalked her, the claim that I tried to interfere in her marriage, are fabrications. If she or Jean-Luc got strange phone calls they were not from me. Carol is uncomfortable with me not because I'm some creepy guy but because she has lied viciously, raising the ad hominem as the only defense for the indefensible schemers she's naive enough to consider friends--the 9/11 con man William Rodriguez (1) and the bigot, violence-monger, liar, and negligent scholar Dr. Kevin Barrett. Both of them have been extremely destructive to the credibility of the 9/11 truth movement in general and Carol in particular. That said, I thank Carol for a softball pitch. Only the truth hurts. Her third paragraph acknowledges that Kevin and Willie have harmed the truth movement, but says that "probably" I have harmed it more (presumably by attacking them and, indirectly, demoralizing her). She says that "probably" they have helped the truth movement more than I have. Such faint praise for them, such feeble criticism of me! Strangely, her ambivalence does not foreclose on her Truth through Censorship agenda. Yes, truthers were shocked when I said Barrett makes the movement look bad. His Dr. Jekyll act within the movement is magnificent, and few know that whenever he's given a mainstream microphone he becomes a Mr. Hyde Kooky Truther. (2) Yes, it was rude to point out that since he never had a tenure track job, his claim that he lost one for his 9/11 beliefs is a lie. The schmuck published Chomsky's confidential emails after promising he would not, and he brags about it. He gets no courtesy from me. I went to the NorCal Alliance meeting and to Sacramento to protest the collegial treatment of someone whose demented hypocrisy allows him to deliver a lecture called "Peace Jihad: Islam and the Quest for a World Without War" to a peace group when in the last few months he has blogged repeated calls for insurrection (3), called for Americans to support Taliban (4), threatened to burn down Governor Schwarzenegger's house (5), and called for 500,000 zionists to be imprisoned in concentration camps (6). At his Friday lecture I saw a well-known alternative media personality and a major truth movement financier. If my leaflet (email me and I'll send you a pdf) nudged either of them an inch away from Barrett the trip was worth it, burst radiator hose and all. At the last part of the Saturday video http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/5949473 Carol nods vigorously at the end (1:40:00) where the guru reveals his "view of existence": Our consciousness transcends both science-book reality and our concern for ethical living, and to make the world a better place we need to be grounded in, and act in, the true reality of a consciousness that (parapsychology shows) transcends space, time, and physical reality. I hope Carol is not seriously indulging the notion that lying serves some grand eternal purpose. That way lies madness and, lucid though he may be when he's on his best behavior, Barrett seems halfway there already. I can't fathom Carol's loyalty to these rabid clowns, but it cheers me to see that her heart's not in it. B 1. statistical proof that Willie's claim that he saved hundreds is a lie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAzBcan2Z3k 2. recording from Kevin's performance on 50,000-watt KDKA radio last summer, reaching the eastern half of the country http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnxWitXLOdM 3. http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/zionist-war-on-islam-is-also-war-on.html http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/hey-obama-surge-this.html http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2010/02/are-american-citizens-fair-game-for.html 4. http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/10/should-american-patriots-support.html 5. http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/12/were-coming-for-your-house-next-arnie.html 6. http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2010/03/splitting-sky-james-petras-on-truth.html Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 06:47:35 -0700 To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org From: cbrouillet at igc.org Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Brian Good's Relentless Attacks on Kevin Barrett Brian Good was banned from the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance meetings and our e-mail list. He attended our last meeting, when Kevin Barrett and his wife, Fatna were there. They had been invited to join us for a potluck dinner prior to the meeting. Brian wore black and a giant V for Vendetta mask, and at some point rudely verbally attacked Dr. Barrett, and of course he gave his flyer/handout to all who would take them, when they left the meeting. Brian's behavior surprised and shocked people. Kevin didn't try to defend himself verbally, especially since he had spoken before Brian came and we had already had a lengthy dialogue with him, and whatever issues/questions the group had about Kevin's work had already been answered. I felt badly about all the relentless attacks Brian has launched against Kevin and William Rodriguez, who have probably helped the truth movement more than Brian, who has probably harmed the truth movement more than they have. I also was late for the dinner (which Ken Jenkins and I were hosting) It took me an hour and forty-five minutes to get to Berkeley- so I was an hour late with much of the food... I did go to Sacramento on Saturday to have brunch with Kevin and his wife, and local activists and to attend Kevin's 2nd talk at a private home in the suburbs of Sacramento organized by Sacramento's Peace Pyramid which was webcasted and is posted on http://noliesradio.org/archives/14447 No Lies Radio. People in Sacramento were shocked when Brian came and leafletted outside of the library where Kevin Barrett spoke on Friday night, but they were even more shocked when he showed up to leaflet in front of the private home where Kevin gave his 2nd talk. That event was also a potluck, and I went with a local organizer and Kevin's wife and we were a bit late- it started at 5 pm. They had already contacted the police and it was legal for Brian to leaflet on the sidewalk where he stood from before 5 pm to probably 1 am in the morning (when it was freezing cold). People felt that he was mentally disturbed. Kevin, his wife Fatna, organizers from Sacramento, after everyone left the event, went out and tried to speak reasonably with Brian. They realized he was a very lonely guy and obviously obsessed with his delusions. They were compassionate and Brian was very rude, to say the least, although Brian did manage to talk Kevin out of the last copy of the new edition of Questioning the War on Terror: A Primer for Obama Voters (Kevin had run out of books- people who had attended the Saturday night event had had to order them through Fatna) - so Brian actually got Kevin's only last hard copy, but Brian made a nasty joke about "Musliming Kevin down" on the price and giving him $5 instead of the $10 standard price. In response to Brian's behavior, a couple of people advised me to get a restraining order against Brian. Fatna, Kevin's wife, had, during the stressful time of Kevin's run for Congress taken out a restraining order against Kevin (which Brian was quick to blast all over the internet). Fatna explained to me that she had done it to keep Kevin away, because she loved Kevin still and knew if he spoke to her, he would woo her back, which is precisely what happened, he sent her flowers and she ended up getting back together with him. This was her first tour with him, where she had a chance to meet a lot of the other activists and she was favorably impressed (despite Brian) and has even said that she would allow Kevin or support him to run for Congress again. She is quite a strong, powerful, wonderful person and you can hear her in the webcast of the Sacramento event (probably) as she also spoke at that event. She told me what a pain in the neck the restraining orders are, and how one must tell the police every time whoever is given the restraining order attempts communication, or whoever issues the restraining order is legally in trouble. My husband urged me to call the police when I was getting death threats, and I really didn't like having to go over the whole experience with the police, and the follow-up. I also didn't take legal action when the police pulled me over when I was driving south on 101, held my 16 year old son and me at gunpoint, handcuffed me and held me in the back of a police car for 5- 10 minutes, while trying to figure out whether my son (still in braces) and me had committed armed robbery at midnight in Santa Rosa (just following the 4th night of the successful premiere of Barrie Zwicker's documentary- The Great Conspiracy- The 9/11 News Special You Never Saw. Barrie had also had the resource guides that he had shipped to me intercepted at the border, to be replaced by hardback books in Russian entitled "Paradise Lost." Barrie and I figured that the interception of materials and the handcuffing were not too subtle messages from those who had the ability to quench dissent to let us know that our actions were being monitored and were not appreciated. (I organized the first Citizen's International Inquiry into 9/11 in the US, and Barrie organized the 2nd one in Toronto). I don't want to have to deal with police/the courts unless I have to- it's a colossal drain on one's time and energy. A lot of people think Brian is Cointelpro- although I don't, but I think he does "behave" that way and should be getting a stipend from whatever division in the government that in charge of neutralizing dissent. It should be pretty clear to those on this list that I have stopped going to Green Party meetings/events because I don't want to see or have to deal with Brian, because of his delusions, his complete lack of trust of me, his relentless persecution of Kevin and William. Certainly I would have run for Congress again, if it wasn't for him and his obsessive monitoring of my every action and words. It's hard enough for me to challenge militarism without having to fight with the people I work with, so I am only doing my activism where I feel comfortable/safe with the people I am working with. I realize that the Green Party will not oust a volunteer nor am I asking it to oust Brian, but I will do my political work where I don't have to run into him, whenever possible. It infuriates me when he stalks me and photographs me when I'm trying to table. I wish the moderators would not allow him to use this list to vent his animosity towards Kevin Barrett and William Rodriguez, which I still believe is rooted in his feelings/not his brain. I think Brian's judgement is very questionable and I have no doubt that he condemns me for most of my judgements/actions. I'm sure he'll respond to this email- but I don't want to waste any more of my time on him. I plan to continue to ignore/avoid him, as best I can. My apologies to the group for not attending the meetings- if Brian does stop attending them - I might start going again. Carol Brouillet Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Apr 14 12:29:07 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] bookmark Message-ID: <773151.21700.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How about we all come up with wording for a bookmark. Then we can do a ranked voting election to pick the one we like best. Then we can print them up in time to hand them out when we are tabling this month. Here's mine: VOTE NO ON PROP. 14 Instead of two elections, let's have one election with ranked choice voting. This will save a whole lot of money and give our elected representatives more time to work for us and less time to attend fund raisers. 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It's also notable for its open-endedness, its general acceptance , and its subtlety. It touches few of us directly; the burdens are born mostly by foreigners. Torture was an anathema. Obama's non-action has made it into a policy choice. Features of the State of Exception: 1. The War on Terror redefines anti-terrorist action as war 2. The WOT is unbounded -- global, and apparently endless 3. Redefining alleged terrorists as "unlawful combatants" instead of criminals deprives them of all legal protections 4. The Preventive Paradigm emphasizes aggressive, pre-emptive action -- abandoning legal tests such as probable cause and imminent danger. It seeks to eliminate risk at the expense of proof. 5. WOT powers are based on the notion of the President's inherent powers 6. Powers of secrecy are exploited 7. Large and complex problems are attacked with improvised, impractical, and amateurish solutions 8. the WOT is exploited for political purposes, especially before elections When Abu Zubaydah famously woke in his white room, there was no acknowledgment from the government that they held him, or had any obligations about his treatment. Limits on government power were completely removed. He had no role in 9/11, and was not even a member of al Qaeda. But he was believed to be Osama's #2 man, and interrogators operated on the basis of their own speculations on what the prisoner should know. He was waterboarded 83 times. Bush defined a line before the Law Enforcement paradigm before 9/11 and the War on Terror after. Partly this was an attempt to banish the attacks (and questions about his own legitimacy after the flawed electoral process of 2000) to the realm of the other party. Cofer Black of the CIA said that after 9/11, the gloves came off. The 9/11attacks were blamed on handcuffs on Presidential powers that had been imposed in the Watergate and Frank Church Committee era. The Republicans exploited the 9/11 attacks to blame the Democrats for security deficiencies, and won an unusual midterm election victory in 2002. Cheney's "1% threat must-be-treated-as-ceetainty" doctrine implies that only lack of action, not mistaken action, can be dangerous. There was a great fear of failure. The INS detained 5,000 in the USA after 9/11. Ultimately almost 100,000 were detained globally, and the system was clogged. Nobody could be released for fear that they would reveal how screwed up the system was. At Abu Ghraib, 85% of the 20,000 prisoners had no intel value at all. Some of the legal justification in the torture memos was based on the notion that if US soldiers were subjected to some of these practices in the training environment, then actual prisoners would not harmed. There is amazingly scant record of policy discussions behind the State of Exception. After Condi early on (5-14-02) approved of the interrogation planes for Abu Zubaydah, her buddy Philip Zelikow observed that when the question should have been "What should we do?" the question asked was "What can we do?" The CIA improvised a program of medically-monitored procedures that were experimental and improvised. Abu Zubaydah had his head smashed into the wall through use of a towel around his neck. By the time Khalid Sheikh Mohammed came along 11 months later, the towel had morphed into a collar. The CIA wanted the NSC and Congress to go along with what they were doing. Waterboarding is not a case of "simulated drowning" as has been claimed. It's "interrupted drowning." Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had an oximeter on his finger so his interrogators could see how close he was to dying. Torture lawyer John Yoo told the DoJ OPR that he thought he'd prohibited waterboarding. As the practice was described in the press, he thought it would be prohibited. As described in his memo, it was different. The torture practices in the field creeped from the specs. Officials wanted "declination letters" to protect them--advance immunity. The Yoo memos and legislation such as the Military Commissions Act provided some of this. Policymakers were surely looking forward to a future when their actions would be questioned. So now, what is to be done? *** _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Today, I refuse to support "Mr. Obama's War" even if some people have a need to oppose "Mr. Obama's War" for the wrong reasons. If too many Americans still won't "come out of the closet" as full-blown antiwar activists, that tragic situation is as much our failure as anyone else. What do you think? Alex Walker = = = = = = = = = = = http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/14/army-to-court-martial-officer-who-doubts-obama-was-born-in-u-s/ Posted on AOL News, April 14, 2010. Army to Court Martial Officer Who Doubts Obama Was Born in U.S. The Army will court martial a lieutenant colonel who refuses to deploy to Afghanistan because he won't accept orders from President Obama, whom he considers unqualified to be commander in chief, military officials said Wednesday. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terry Lakin believes Obama wasn't born in the United States, and therefore does not meet the constitutional requirements to be president, NBC News reported. Lakin refused to report to Fort Campbell, Ky., for deployment to Afghanistan, and instead showed up at the Pentagon, where he was informed that he would face court martial. His Pentagon building pass and government laptop computer were seized. The 18-year Army veteran is under investigation for failure to report for deployment and for conduct unbecoming an officer, The Associated Press reported. . . . = = = = = = = = = = = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: LJBJBB at aol.com Subject: Sarah Palin's Luxe Speaking Contract Spurs Investigation in California Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:49:46 EDT Size: 10495 URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Sat Apr 17 10:05:15 2010 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:05:15 -0400 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Nazis Marching in Los Angeles *TODAY* Message-ID: <8CCAC6748A4DB41-1A70-1AAD1@webmail-m017.sysops.aol.com> To All My Dear Green Friends, Lately there has been a been a big hullabaloo about the governor of my home state of Virginia declaring April to be Confederate History Month, thus permitting a chorus of "Yankee" hypocrites in places like New York, Boston, Chicago, and California to, once again, look down their Yankee W.A.S.P. noses at those terrible white "rednecks" from that other country "Down South." And so, in the spirit of "Confederate History Month," please be advised that here in the "Left South" the National Socialize Movement has obtained a permit to march in beautiful downtown Los Angeles, California at 1:00 PM Pacific Time *TODAY*. Peace & Love, and Have a Nice Day Alex Walker = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/04/white-supremacist-rally-in-downtown-la-prompts-big-lapd-response.html Posted by the Los Angeles Times White Supremacist Rally in Downtown L.A. Prompts Big LAPD Response April 17, 2010 -- 8:14 am The Los Angeles Police Department will be out in force Saturday afternoon as white supremacists square off against counter demonstrators in front of City Hall. The police department plans a heavy presence around the Civic Center aimed at preventing clashes between the two sides, officials said. "We are going to allow both groups to exercise their 1st Amendment rights," Los Angeles Police Cmdr. Blake Chow. "Anyone stepping out of line will be arrested. We will have a very heavy deployment of officers." The National Socialist Movement obtained a 1:30 p.m. permit for up to 150 of its supporters to attend a so-called Reclaim the Southwest rally. The movement has been advertising the event for weeks on the Web. The LAPD is bringing in specially trained crowd-control officers and plans to create a buffer if necessary to prevent violence between the groups. Counter-protest organizer Fred "Scorpio" Smith of Watts said he anticipated a turnout of at least a hundred demonstrating against the white supremacists, whose rallies have spurred opposition in Riverside and San Diego. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sat Apr 17 11:03:54 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:03:54 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Supervisor Race Message-ID: <4BC9F80A.7090605@charter.net> With the Supervisor's election set for June, and with signs going up all around the area, it is time to do some hard thinking about who Greens should vote for in the County Supervisor's races, especially for District 1. District 1 includes Gilroy, San Martin, Morgan Hill, Los Gatos, the Blossom Valley, Santa Teresa & Almaden Valley sections of San Jose and all the hill country (Santa Cruz and Hamilton ranges). There are 5 candidates and controlling health care costs figures very high on the list of issues. Two of the candidates (Mike Wasserman - Los Gatos and Forrest Williams - San Jose) make a very big issue of the privatization of the Valley Medical Center. Also high on their list (as well as that of Gilroy vintner Tom Kruise) is the cost of health insurance for county employees... asking them to contribute more per month - now $37 / month. I would not vote for any of these three. Of the other 2, (Teresa Alvarado - daughter of recent supervisor Bianca Alvarado & Dr. Peter Arellano) I would favor Arellano, partly because he is my personal physician at Kaiser - Gilroy and I trust him. I have also dealt with his wife in meetings on freedom of speech vs. porn blocking software at public libraries and she also has a good head on her shoulders. Dr. Arellano says that he would use his experience with medical services at Kaiser to look for ways to reduce costs, but does not talk of privatizing Valley Medical Center in the manner that Wasserman and Williams do. He also points to his experience as a Gilroy City Councilman as learning how to balance a budget. For those who follow South County news, whenever there is a 4 - 1 vote in the Gilroy City Council the 1 is most often Arellano holding out for more progressive policies. He has my personal endorsement. In District 4, Ken Yeager is un-opposed. So, you know the results of that one already. Are you satisfied with it? -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From rob.means at electric-bikes.com Sat Apr 17 18:03:37 2010 From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 18:03:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Supervisor Race In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002201cade92$fa36d750$6b01a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Based on the recommendation of a progressive friend of mine active in the Democratic Party, I would vote for Arellano also. Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- -----Original Message----- Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:03:54 -0700 From: Wes Rolley To: Green Discuss Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Supervisor Race Message-ID: <4BC9F80A.7090605 at charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed With the Supervisor's election set for June, and with signs going up all around the area, it is time to do some hard thinking about who Greens should vote for in the County Supervisor's races, especially for District 1. District 1 includes Gilroy, San Martin, Morgan Hill, Los Gatos, the Blossom Valley, Santa Teresa & Almaden Valley sections of San Jose and all the hill country (Santa Cruz and Hamilton ranges). There are 5 candidates and controlling health care costs figures very high on the list of issues. Two of the candidates (Mike Wasserman - Los Gatos and Forrest Williams - San Jose) make a very big issue of the privatization of the Valley Medical Center. Also high on their list (as well as that of Gilroy vintner Tom Kruise) is the cost of health insurance for county employees... asking them to contribute more per month - now $37 / month. I would not vote for any of these three. Of the other 2, (Teresa Alvarado - daughter of recent supervisor Bianca Alvarado & Dr. Peter Arellano) I would favor Arellano, partly because he is my personal physician at Kaiser - Gilroy and I trust him. I have also dealt with his wife in meetings on freedom of speech vs. porn blocking software at public libraries and she also has a good head on her shoulders. Dr. Arellano says that he would use his experience with medical services at Kaiser to look for ways to reduce costs, but does not talk of privatizing Valley Medical Center in the manner that Wasserman and Williams do. He also points to his experience as a Gilroy City Councilman as learning how to balance a budget. For those who follow South County news, whenever there is a 4 - 1 vote in the Gilroy City Council the 1 is most often Arellano holding out for more progressive policies. He has my personal endorsement. In District 4, Ken Yeager is un-opposed. So, you know the results of that one already. Are you satisfied with it? -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 ************************ From wrolley at charter.net Sat Apr 17 21:12:30 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:12:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Stop historic BAREC Building Demo on 4-19-10 by State Message-ID: <4BCA86AE.2020708@charter.net> Since the GPSCC formally voted to support BAREC,. I think we should all pay attention to the follow-up from Kathryn, who had appeared at the meeting when we voted that support. Please follow up on this. The state is so anxious to raise money that they will ignore any and all restrictions on a property just to get some more $$ in the CA Coffers. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Stop historic BAREC Building Demo on 4-19-10 by State Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:03:12 -0700 From: Kathryn Mathewson To: Dear BAREC Friends: On Thursday I received a "Work Notice" form from the State Department of Toxic Substances Control (DTSC). It stated that the week of April 19th (next week) they will be demolishing the BAREC historical buildings and installing a 6 foot dust fence around the entire site. From March 6 through May 24 they will be removing 5000 to 6000 of contaminated soil from the site. From May 25th through June 8th they will backfill the site. Because I did not see anyone responding to this Work Notice, yesterday I sent the DTSC an email which is below. One thing for sure which would stop this building demolition is the fact that HUD will NOT GIVE MONEY for any housing which is built on anything that looks like a historically important building site. This was stated in the EIR and CEQA reports by a historical attorney and by myself. The County Historical Commission declared that BAREC was a historical site and should be placed on the National Historical Registry but the state and city refused to do so. The BAREC EIR/CEQA plans included senior housing built with HUD funds through the Redevelopment Agency. IF THE STATE DEMOLISHES THE BAREC HISTORICAL BUILDINGS, THEN HUD FUNDS WILL NO LONGER BE AVAILABLE FOR THE SITE, BAREC SENIOR HOUSING WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE, AND THE EIR WILL HAVE TO BE REWRITTEN WITH DIFFERENT PLANS. Note: The Work Notice states that removal of the buildings will include abatement of lead, asbestos, and removal of wastes. They can do this without demolishing both historical buildings. In the EIR record there is a letter from the last BAREC Director which reports that the State took excellent care of these 1920s buildings until the site was closed in 2002. We have pictures of them at this time in excellent condition. It is clear that the developers and City of Santa Clara have made efforts to make these buildings look like derelict buildings since its closing. Please let your legislators, historical friends, community activists, and historical and environmental organizations know about these issues and conflicts as soon as possible and let them know what you think about this issue. Following is the State contact information for the demolition and soil clean-up: Karen Toth, DTSC Unit Chief: 510-540-3834; KToth at dtsc.ca.gov Richard A. Perry, DTSC Public Participation Specialist: 510-540-3910; RPerry at dtsc.ca.gov David Perry, Dept. of General Services General Manager: 916-375-4907; David.Perry at dgs.ca.gov On a side note: There has been a neighborhood lawsuit against the State, Regents, the City of Santa Clara, and the pesticide companies which did tests on the property. Since I am not part of this lawsuit, I do not know what is happening with it. However, I do know that the attorneys went onto the site and were able to test the site's soil. In so doing they found more pesticides than the state had claimed in their reports. I am sending this email only to people who have been the most actively interested in BAREC. Kathryn Mathewson 408-292-9595 kmathewson at secretgardens.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Kathryn Mathewson [mailto:kmathewson at secretgardens.com] *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 3:59 PM *To:* 'KToth at dtsc.ca.gov'; 'RPerry at dtsc.ca.gov'; 'David.Perry at dtsc.ca.gov' *Cc:* Mark Wolfe ; 'Susan Brandt Hawley'; Sharon McCray (Samccray at aol.com); 'kirk at aSliceOfNY.com'; Yolanda Reynolds (yolandar at att.net); Bob Walker *Subject:* Stop BAREC Building Demo on 4-19-10 if site is to get HUD funds *Importance:* High RE: Halting the Department of General Services BAREC Building Demolition on April 19, 2010 To: Karen Toth, Richard A. Perry, and David Perry: I just received your letter stating that you plan to demolish the historical BAREC buildings on April 19, 2010. This is to inform you that if any developer plans to obtain HUD funds to build future buildings on the BAREC (Bay Area Research Extension Center) property on Winchester Blvd. in the future, you cannot demolish the historical buildings on this property. This information has been placed in the BAREC CEQA in several places. The current housing plans for BAREC have been approved for senior housing which will require HUD funds through the Santa Clara City Redevelopment Agency. This will no longer be possible because the HUD funds will no longer be available. Please contact the attorneys who made CEQA comments in the BAREC CEQA regarding this (their emails above): Susan Brandt Hawley 707-938-3908 Mark Wolk 415-369-9400 Kathryn Mathewson 408-292-9595 kmathewson at secretgardens.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From green at bionictoad.com Sat Apr 17 22:00:05 2010 From: green at bionictoad.com (Ray Tobey) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:00:05 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Supervisor Race In-Reply-To: <4BC9F80A.7090605@charter.net> References: <4BC9F80A.7090605@charter.net> Message-ID: <4BCA91D5.1080106@bionictoad.com> Wes Rolley wrote: > it is time to do some hard thinking about who Greens should vote for > in the County Supervisor's races IMHO, this question is almost irrelevant. We should be asking: Which candidate are we Greens going to help? What help are we going give? Last time this race received 129,074 votes. Typically, a Party meeting here has 5 attendees. Division tells us that our votes should be worth about 0.0039% of the total cast. If we want to have any real effect on our world, we must do something more than vote. For the first time ever in San Mateo, both candidates in this June's Supervisor's race have asked for the Green Party endorsement. For months, we heard that the progressive did not want our endorsement presumably because we are poisonous. But when the moderate asked for the endorsement, the progressive relented and also asked. This means that someone has recognized our existence, which I consider a huge improvement. In the past, we've mailed our endorsements to all the registered Greens in the county, 4,000 or so. This action is a excellent start on having an effect. It might be the reason these two candidates asked for our endorsement this time. - Ray From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Apr 18 14:35:31 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Supervisor Race In-Reply-To: <4BC9F80A.7090605@charter.net> References: <4BC9F80A.7090605@charter.net> Message-ID: <504587.58984.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for that welcome and pertinent information, Wes. Caroline ________________________________ From: Wes Rolley To: Green Discuss Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 11:03:54 AM Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Clara County Supervisor Race With the Supervisor's election set for June, and with signs going up all around the area, it is time to do some hard thinking about who Greens should vote for in the County Supervisor's races, especially for District 1.? District 1 includes Gilroy, San Martin,? Morgan Hill, Los Gatos, the Blossom Valley, Santa Teresa & Almaden Valley sections of San Jose and all the hill country (Santa Cruz and Hamilton ranges).? There are 5 candidates and controlling health care costs figures very high on the list of issues. Two of the candidates (Mike Wasserman - Los Gatos and Forrest Williams - San Jose) make a very big issue of the privatization of the Valley Medical Center.? Also high on their list (as well as that of Gilroy vintner Tom Kruise)? is the cost of health insurance for county employees... asking them to contribute more per month - now $37 / month.? I would not vote for any of these three.? Of the other 2, (Teresa Alvarado - daughter of recent supervisor Bianca Alvarado & Dr. Peter Arellano) I would favor Arellano, partly because he is my personal physician at Kaiser - Gilroy and I trust him.? I have also dealt with his wife in meetings on freedom of speech vs. porn blocking software at public libraries and she also has a good head on her shoulders. Dr. Arellano says that he would use his experience with medical services at Kaiser to look for ways to reduce costs, but does not talk of privatizing Valley Medical Center in the manner that Wasserman and Williams do.? He also points to his experience as a Gilroy City Councilman as learning how to balance a budget.? For those who follow South County news, whenever there is a 4 - 1 vote in the Gilroy City Council the 1 is most often Arellano holding out for more progressive policies. He has my personal endorsement. In District 4, Ken Yeager is un-opposed.? So, you know the results of that one already.? Are you satisfied with it? -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Apr 18 14:49:15 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Earthday and Junior State and May Message-ID: <63296.34174.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Caroline Yacoub To: sosfbay-discuss sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 2:30:12 PM Subject: Earthday and Junior State and May It would seem that, so far, tabling coverage for these events is as follows: April 21--Santa Clara University--(Caroline and Tian)--Caroline will take the stuff to Tian's April 22--San Jose State--(Fred and Tian) Fred will take the stuff home April 24--Junior State, Santa Clara Convention Center (Brian will pick up the stuff at Fred's. Jim S. will help with tabling. Brian will drop the stuff off at Caroline's) May 8--Berryessa Art and Wine--(Caroline will take the stuff and Warner over to Berryessa. Andrea, and, hopefully, a heavy lifter c/o Dale will set up and spend the morning. Tian said he will go at noon. Fred said he would go at noon. WE REALLY NEED SOMEBODY WHO CAN STAY UNTIL 5;00, TAKE THE STUFF DOWN, AND GET IT TO ANDREA'S, MERRIAM'S OR CAROLINE'S. May 16--Milpitas Be An Artist Day--(Caroline, Merriam, and Andrea0 May 22--Food 4 Thought, if anybody can find a place. We don't need a kitchen, just a place to plug in crockpots and room for 60 people or so to eat. Call Merriam. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP AT ANY OF THE ABOVE EVENTS, PLEASE FEEL FREE. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Sun Apr 18 16:21:25 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:21:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peter Drekmeier to Speak at Humanist Forum... In-Reply-To: <547984.51459.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6C29BA41-6816-4044-A5A5-B5ADF07B53FF@cagreens.org> <547984.51459.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2CD61890-D561-478E-96EA-2B4603781708@cagreens.org> Caroline, All HC Forums are open to the public. They are held every Sunday at 11 AM and feature a lunch afterwards for donations of $7-10 if people want to stay and eat and chat, often till 2 PM in the Palo Alto High School Student Center (cafeteria). Paly is located on the corner of Embarcadero Road and El Camino Real, across from Stanford U. Today we had former State Assembly member Sally Lieber speaking for Prop 15, the California Fair Elections Act. I asked her about the issue of the special rules that make it more difficult for 3rd Party candidates and whether that could be made more fair in the future. She agreed that changes could and probably would be made should the test run be successful in the next two years. A couple of others asked followup questions in a similar vein about the effect on third parties and the voting system in general. Andrea On Mar 26, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Do you have to belong to go? > > From: Andrea Dorey > To: sosfbay-discuss > Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 5:52:28 PM > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peter Drekmeier to Speak at Humanist Forum > > > > > The following Sunday [April 4] Peter Drekmeier will speak about "Adapting to Climate Change: Preparing for Inevitable Impacts." > ----------- > The Humanist Community Forum meets at 11am at our new location, Palo Alto High School at the corner of El Camino and Embarcadero Rd. (50 Embarcadero Rd) in Palo Alto. The forum will be in the Student Center and the family program in rm 31/29 upstairs in the Administration Bldg. A map is attached to this email. > ----------- > Past Humanist Community Forums (from December of 2009) are now viewable on the Internet, and on Comcast public access channel 30 in the Palo Alto area. To view them on the web, go tohttp://vimeo.com/user2798508/videos/sort:newest. You can also get to that website from the Forums page on the Humanist Community website (http://www.humanists.org/), or from the Humanist Community Blog (http://humanistcommunity.org/wp). To see the schedule of their showings on Comcast public access channel 30, go to http://www.communitymediacenter.net/watch/#humanist. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Sun Apr 18 16:29:17 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:29:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Prop 14 (Top Two) forum in Santa Claraon Tuesday, Marc... In-Reply-To: <4BA9BBD3.9050601@aceweb.com> References: <20100324000238.590F46A923@truffula.sj.ca.us> <4BA96009.9020706@prodsyse.com> <4BA9BBD3.9050601@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <8474A11C-9CFF-4498-8B59-103A69A9F207@cagreens.org> The Greens must be very effective because New Zealand has maintained their BAN against the presence of anything nuclear?including American nuclear submarines?to this very day! And hooray for them!!! (The one place the American military boot does not have free access.) Andrea On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:14 AM, Tian Harter wrote: > I can say a few words about the New Zealand system, which I've been > watching as a hobby for many years. Their system is what's refered to > as a "mixed member system", meaning half are elected proportionally, > and half are elected by districts. When a voter goes to vote there, > they get two votes. The first is a district vote, and the second is a > Party vote. When someone decides to run for office there, the first > question is probably: do I want to go for party votes or district votes? > > Each Party is responsible for coming up with ways to earn party votes. > They also give the vote officials a list of party members in the order > the would get elected if enough voters voted for them. The New Zealand > Greens turn in a list with something like a dozen names on it, but as > a practical matter usually the top four to six get seated. > > District vote elections are handled much like our Congressional or > Assembly elections. It's winner take all. Jeanette Fitzsimons, who > recently retired as co-leader of the NZ Greens was elected that way > many times, because she was well known enough in the district for that. > > Most of the Greens in the Govt. were elected on the party list though, > because they weren't well enough known to take a district. Also, the > Greens are one of the few international parties, and we benefit from > being on the front lines of issues like climate change. For a long time > I was carrying around the flier they gave out to earn Party votes. > I wish I could show it to you, but I've given it away now. > > Tian > > spencerg wrote: >> Hi, Cameron: >> >> >> Yes, that was what I was looking for. Thanks. >> >> >> That raises another question: What's the difference between this >> Prop 14 system and the general / runoff system used in many other >> countries where third parties thrive? >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> >> On 3/23/2010 5:02 PM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: >>> I suspect Spencer was looking for some history to complement >>> our already plausible conclusions about the intent and >>> effect of top-two. Not dismissing our reasoning. >>> >>> We now have per-party-primaries, which the parties can open if >>> they choose, followed by a general election. >>> >>> Top-two replaces that system. The new system has no >>> per-party-primaries, a mid-year general election, and a runoff >>> in the fall. Without per-party-primaries, party affiliation >>> has no legal meaning. >>> >>> It's easy to be confused by funny terms like "open primary." >>> When candidates from all parties run against one another, that's >>> not a primary, it's a general election. >>> >>> Several states already do that, all that's different is the >>> schedule. So the "evidence" Spencer wants can be found in >>> the experience in those states. Georgia, Virginia, >>> Washington. Washington had a sort of Nader campaign club >>> in 2000, which disappeared shortly after that election, >>> but never got a Green Party together. Georgia was one of >>> the first US states that organized a Green political club, >>> and it even formed locals in the larger counties, but never >>> reached a thousand members, despite two decades of relatively >>> competent organizing effort. Virginia got started later >>> but the story's the same. You could run down the chart >>> in _Ballot Access News_ and catch the rest. States with >>> "open primaries" or no party-voter affiliation >>> don't grow Green Parties. The correlation is just >>> about absolute. The only thing missing is an experiment >>> where a state takes away party-voter affiliation that it >>> used to have. >>> >>> >>> -Cameron >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> > > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > Latest addition: Pictures and words about the Green Party of California. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From jims at greens.org Sun Apr 18 18:59:49 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 18:59:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Can't Do It --> Fw: Earthday and Junior State and May In-Reply-To: <63296.34174.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <63296.34174.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BCBB915.7050707@greens.org> Something's come up and I can't do the Apr.24 Junior States. Can someone else please take a shift tabling. It's a great event for tabling and they really like us there. I can help with the tear down and transport at Berryessa. Jim On 4/18/2010 2:49 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > *From:* Caroline Yacoub > *To:* sosfbay-discuss sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > *Sent:* Sun, April 18, 2010 2:30:12 PM > *Subject:* Earthday and Junior State and May > > It would seem that, so far, tabling coverage for these events is as follows: > April 21--Santa Clara University--(Caroline and Tian)--Caroline will > take the stuff to Tian's > April 22--San Jose State--(Fred and Tian) Fred will take the stuff home > April 24--Junior State, Santa Clara Convention Center (Brian will pick > up the stuff at Fred's. Jim S. will help with tabling. Brian will drop > the stuff off at Caroline's) > May 8--Berryessa Art and Wine--(Caroline will take the stuff and Warner > over to Berryessa. Andrea, and, hopefully, a heavy lifter c/o Dale will > set up and spend the morning. Tian said he will go at noon. Fred said he > would go at noon. WE REALLY NEED SOMEBODY WHO CAN STAY UNTIL 5;00, TAKE > THE STUFF DOWN, AND GET IT TO ANDREA'S, MERRIAM'S OR CAROLINE'S. > May 16--Milpitas Be An Artist Day--(Caroline, Merriam, and Andrea0 > May 22--Food 4 Thought, if anybody can find a place. We don't need a > kitchen, just a place to plug in crockpots and room for 60 people or so > to eat. Call Merriam. > ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP AT ANY OF THE ABOVE EVENTS, PLEASE FEEL FREE. > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From wrolley at charter.net Mon Apr 19 08:01:25 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:01:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] April 25 in Washington and the future of the earth. Message-ID: <4BCC7045.40003@charter.net> > > > Earth Day Network is organizing a huge event on the Mall in Washington > DC on April 25. The goal is to demand tough, effective climate > legislation and a swift transition away from 19th century energy sources. > > ?So what?? you may be asking yourself. There have been a lot of > climate rallies over the last 25 years and Congress still hasn?t > managed to pass a law. Why should I come to this one? > There is a chance to show that there is something going on in the US besides a tea party. http://tinyurl.com/y2ctqk5 -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 19 12:05:07 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:05:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] tablers needed for Junior State Saturday Message-ID: <4BCCA963.4010508@sbcglobal.net> Help! Help! Since our most recent meeting some personal schedules have changed resulting in cancellations. Consequently, help is needed on Saturday at Junior State at the Marriott in Santa Clara. The room will be available for setup at noon and what I recall from past experience is that the participants keep coming by until late afternoon. Help! Help! If you can help please Email Jim Doyle - j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net or call Jim Doyle at (408) 269-3299 From snug.bug at hotmail.com Mon Apr 19 12:22:53 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:22:53 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] tablers needed for Junior State Saturday In-Reply-To: <4BCCA963.4010508@sbcglobal.net> References: <4BCCA963.4010508@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: This is the funnest tabling you're likely to do all year. These aren't your usual sullen teenagers. These kids are bright and often well-informed and politically ambitious and excited and optimistic about the future and their ability to take on the challenges. They're anxious to practice their rhetorical skills so it's easy to get them talking about themselves and their enthusiasms so it's the easiest conversation-making you're ever likely to experience. And what we can sell them is a very tempting prospect. We are extremely hospitable to young candidates, much more so than either of the Gray parties, and if after building recognition with the Greens they find they get a great offer from one of the major parties we won't begrudge them one bit--'cause we know they'll be back. > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:05:07 -0700 > From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] tablers needed for Junior State Saturday > > Help! Help! > > Since our most recent meeting some personal schedules > have changed resulting in cancellations. > > Consequently, help is needed on Saturday at Junior State > at the Marriott in Santa Clara. > > The room will be available for setup at noon > and what I recall from past experience is that the participants > keep coming by until late afternoon. > > Help! Help! > > If you can help please > Email Jim Doyle - j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net > or call Jim Doyle at > (408) 269-3299 > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 19 12:26:35 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:26:35 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior State agenda Message-ID: <4BCCAE6B.50105@sbcglobal.net> the agenda for the Junior State meeting this weekend is at http://nc.jsa.org/?p=274 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 20 16:03:17 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:03:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] call for tabling help Message-ID: <4BCE32B5.9030800@sbcglobal.net> Help! Help! Since our most recent meeting some personal schedules have changed resulting in cancellations. Consequently, help is needed on Saturday at Junior State at the Marriott in Santa Clara. The room will be available for setup at noon Brian Good will be there with the tabling materials and will stay to table and what I recall from past experience is that the participants keep coming by until late afternoon - an unspecified 4 or 5 pm. Help! Help! If you can help please Email Jim Doyle - j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net or call Jim Doyle at (408) 269-3299 From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Apr 20 20:00:04 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:00:04 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Jack Herer passed away] Message-ID: <4BCE6A34.1090800@aceweb.com> I got turned on to the role of hemp farming in the economy by reading The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Somebody gave me a copy when I was running for Congress in 1992. It was much more recently that I learned DC garden plots are limited to annual plants. They have a lottery every year to divvy up the space. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [G-C-F] Jack Herer passed away Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:37:06 -0700 From: Mike Feinstein To: cal-forum at cagreens.org References: <1103328839861.1101162994588.6208.5.262105D4 at scheduler> Begin forwarded message: > *From: *Vote Hemp > > *Date: *April 20, 2010 6:06:56 PM PDT > *To: *mfeinstein at feinstein.org > *Subject: **Remembering Jack Herer* > > Vote Hemp Alert Header > > > > Remembering Jack Herer > > > April 20, 2010 > > Dear Michael,* > > * > On April 15th, we lost the founding father of the hemp industry. The > passing of Jack Herer marked the end of an era for the modern hemp > industry. The Hemperor, as Jack was affectionately known, was a true > visionary who inspired an entire generation of cannabis and hemp > activists including myself. > > Many of us in the hemp industry were inspired by Jack's book The > Emperor Wears No Clothes. Self published in 1985, The Emperor exposed > the racist origins of cannabis prohibition and extolled the amazing > and long forgotten hemp plant. Jack promoted the book and his message > tirelessly at events throughout north America and eventually the world > inspiring millions to rediscover hemp. > > While we mourn his loss, we also celebrate his life and incredible > accomplishments. We are close to his ultimate goal of freeing hemp > from its chains. The best tribute to Jack will be to continue working > until hemp is free, once again. > > Regards, > > Eric Steenstra > /President/ > Vote Hemp > Vote Hemp Logo > > > > Jack Herer 1939 - 2010VH Action Alert header > > > Jack Herer, Patron Saint of Global Cannabis Movement IN EULOGY > By Bonnie King > Salem-News.com > April 20, 2010 > > (SALEM, Ore.) - Jack Herer was born June 18th, 1939, in Coney Island, > Brooklyn, New York. In 1940 his family moved to Buffalo, where he was > raised, the son of a collection agency manager. A "normal American > nerd", he grew into a respectable young man, joining the military, > getting married and starting a family. > > And then, at age thirty, he completely changed direction, becoming one > of the very first American Cannabis activists, and inevitably the most > world renowned leader for hemp education. > > Jack didn't start out as the "kind of guy" who smoked pot. He was a > Goldwater Republican, in the sign maintenance business. In 1969, > recently divorced, he was introduced to cannabis by a girlfriend. He > wasn't much interested in it before then, and after briefly trying it > a couple of times he was fairly sure it didn't "work on him". Jack was > therefore naive to the euphoric or medicinal properties of the herb. > When he decided to really give it a try, he said he had the most > incredible sex of his life. > > That inspired him to learn more. What he learned, he shared. > > [More...] > > > *About Vote Hemp > * > Vote Hemp is a national, single-issue, nonprofit organization > dedicated to the acceptance of and free market for industrial hemp, > low-THC oilseed and fiber varieties of Cannabis, and to changes in > current law to allow U.S. farmers to grow the crop. > > Web Site: http://www.VoteHemp.com > > > *Support Vote Hemp* > Vote Hemp depends on donations to support its work. Please consider > making a donation to Vote Hemp. > Contribute Here: http://www.VoteHemp.com/contribute > > > > *Vote Hemp, Inc.* > Tom Murphy > National Outreach Coordinator > phone: 207-542-4998 > email: tom at votehemp.com > > > Forward to a Friend > > > Join Our Mailing List > > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest addition: Pictures and words about San Jose's 4/15 Tea Party. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Apr 21 00:02:37 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:02:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: Question regarding June 12th] Message-ID: <4BCEA30D.4010306@aceweb.com> Anybody willing to put a Senate Candidate for a couple of nights? I would, but I'm leaving for my sister's daughter's wedding about then. Tian -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Question regarding June 12th Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Duane Roberts To: Tian Harter Hi Tian: I've been invited to a candidate's forum in Santa Clara County on June 12th and was curious if the Green Party had any monthly meetings or any other activities the same week that I could speak at? Let me know. And is it possible you could accommodate me for a day or two while I'm up there? I think the odds are very, very good that I'll be heading up to your neck of the woods for this event. Let me know what can be arranged. Please see the below invitation! Sincerely, Duane J. Roberts duaneroberts92804 at yahoo.com Subject: Summer Candidates Forum Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:36 PM From: "Sameena Usman" Add sender to Contacts To: "info at voteforduane.org" Good Evening Mr. Roberts: On behalf of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, San Francisco Bay Area Chapter (CAIR SFBA), I would like to invite you to join us at our Summer Candidates Forum on Saturday, June 12th, in the early evening, 5:30pm, at the Muslim Community Association in Santa Clara (3003 Scott Blvd, Santa Clara). As a respected leader and candidate in the upcoming elections, the American Muslim community would be very interested in hearing from you and your positions if elected. This event is intended for those who win the June 8th primary elections, however all others are more than welcome attend the event as guests. We are expecting upwards of 400 individuals to attend this gathering including Muslim community members and interfaith leaders. This year our focus is on the new era of hope through which we encourage facilitating dialog amongst public officials and American Muslims. This event will serve as an opportunity to educate and empower the community to become more politically, civically, and community engaged. In addition to the June 12th Candidates Forum, CAIR-SFBA is hosting a meet and greet in our Santa Clara office prior to the primaries on Friday, May 7th, 5:30-7:30pm. CAIR, America's largest Muslim civil liberties group, has 35 offices and chapters nationwide and in Canada. Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialog, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding. If you would like additional information or to RSVP, please feel free to contact me at 408.986.9874 or at susman at cair.com. Sincerely, Sameena Usman Government Relations Consultant CAIR-SFBA 3000 Scott Blvd. Suite 101 Santa Clara, CA 95054 -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest addition: Pictures and words about San Jose's 4/15 Tea Party. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Apr 21 17:41:55 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:41:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Food, Inc." on PBS Tonight 9PM Message-ID: http://www.pbs.org/pov/foodinc/ The film shows what's been hidden from the American consumer with the consent of our government's regulatory agencies, USDA and FDA. Our mechanized food supply is controlled by corporations that often put profit ahead of consumer health, the livelihood of the American farmer, workers' safety, and the environment. Along with bigger-breasted chickens, perfect pork chops, insecticide-resistant soybean seeds, and tomatoes that won't go bad we get new strains of E. coli, which sickens 73,000 Americans annually. We are riddled with obesity and diabetes. Among those interviewed are Eric Schlosser ("Fast Food Nation") and Michael Pollan ("The Omnivore's Dilemma"). On a related note, Mark Morford points out that the big health insurance companies own $2 billion in stock in the fast-food industry. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/04/21/notes042110.DTL "The more successful McDonald's is, the sicker the nation gets, the higher your insurance premiums will skyrocket, the more drugs you will demand, the less willpower you will have, the more you will crave toxic garbage 'comfort food,' the more you will believe you're a victim, the less control you will have over the your body and your life, the happier these companies will be. And lo, the circle of life continues. Until your heart collapses." _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. 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For more info: http://kpfa.org/bill-mckibben-eaarth-making-life-tough-new-planet P.S. 350.org is organizing for actions on October 10, (10/10/10) http://250.org From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Apr 23 12:52:30 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 12:52:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Moveon urges criminal action against Goldman Sachs Message-ID: <4BD1FA7E.4030800@earthlink.net> FYI, Moveon sent an email announcing that the SEC is filing a civil suit against Goldman Sachs. And Moveon has a petition for the justice dept. to do a criminal investigation. Maybe Congress should be investigated too. Gerry From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 25 11:33:41 2010 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <561963.83155.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://www.schaferforcongress.info/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127&Itemid=83 Schafer is running for Congress on the GP ticket and presents a different approach on the whole "pro-life"-"pro-choice" debate. What does everyone think about this position? -edward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 25 11:36:30 2010 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? Message-ID: <402250.32742.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The following is taken directly from the Illinois Green Party 2008 platform. Thoughts? ...many in the Green Party oppose the practice of abortion, motivated by a ?consistent ethic of life? (a commitment to the protection of life on the planet, which is threatened in today's world by war, poverty, environmental degradation, racism, capital punishment, abortion and euthanasia). The Ten Key Values of the Green Party are certainly consistent with this philosophy. We want to protect life, especially human life, and enhance the quality of that life. We acknowledge that people on both sides of the abortion "divide" are motivated by deeply held principles. We should not let the abortion issue divide people of good will, but should promote a unified struggle to create conditions that will make abortion increasingly unnecessary and rare. We also acknowledge that people on each side of the abortion "divide" don?t always agree with each other, and that there are complex sub-issues. While no reasonable person can deny that the human embryo and fetus are living, reasonable people can disagree as to the point at which the embryo or fetus becomes sufficiently developed to be a "person" protected by law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Apr 25 16:18:13 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:18:13 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? In-Reply-To: <402250.32742.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <402250.32742.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Personally, having been through an unwanted-pregnancy scare and vicariously experienced another friend's abortion I consider abortion very nasty stuff. Of course technology could solve the problem. Extract the embryo from the mother who doesn't want it and grow it in an artificial womb for someone who does want it. But that would be too simple, and it would remove the primary source of indignation that fuels poor red-staters' support of the Republicans' agenda that is antithetical to their own actual interests. Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:36:30 -0700 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? The following is taken directly from the Illinois Green Party 2008 platform. Thoughts? ...many in the Green Party oppose the practice of abortion, motivated by a ?consistent ethic of life? (a commitment to the protection of life on the planet, which is threatened in today's world by war, poverty, environmental degradation, racism, capital punishment, abortion and euthanasia). The Ten Key Values of the Green Party are certainly consistent with this philosophy. We want to protect life, especially human life, and enhance the quality of that life. We acknowledge that people on both sides of the abortion "divide" are motivated by deeply held principles. We should not let the abortion issue divide people of good will, but should promote a unified struggle to create conditions that will make abortion increasingly unnecessary and rare. We also acknowledge that people on each side of the abortion "divide" don?t always agree with each other, and that there are complex sub-issues. While no reasonable person can deny that the human embryo and fetus are living, reasonable people can disagree as to the point at which the embryo or fetus becomes sufficiently developed to be a "person" protected by law. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eameece at sfo.com Sun Apr 25 17:16:50 2010 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:16:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? In-Reply-To: References: <402250.32742.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <58F2BCFFDC5E482D8A5AEEA688459EBB@eameecePC> I thought the "morning after pill" should have solved a lot of this problem. But like you say, the right-wing wants the issue. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Good To: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com ; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? Personally, having been through an unwanted-pregnancy scare and vicariously experienced another friend's abortion I consider abortion very nasty stuff. Of course technology could solve the problem. Extract the embryo from the mother who doesn't want it and grow it in an artificial womb for someone who does want it. But that would be too simple, and it would remove the primary source of indignation that fuels poor red-staters' support of the Republicans' agenda that is antithetical to their own actual interests. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:36:30 -0700 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? The following is taken directly from the Illinois Green Party 2008 platform. Thoughts? ...many in the Green Party oppose the practice of abortion, motivated by a ?consistent ethic of life? (a commitment to the protection of life on the planet, which is threatened in today's world by war, poverty, environmental degradation, racism, capital punishment, abortion and euthanasia). The Ten Key Values of the Green Party are certainly consistent with this philosophy. We want to protect life, especially human life, and enhance the quality of that life. We acknowledge that people on both sides of the abortion "divide" are motivated by deeply held principles. We should not let the abortion issue divide people of good will, but should promote a unified struggle to create conditions that will make abortion increasingly unnecessary and rare. We also acknowledge that people on each side of the abortion "divide" don?t always agree with each other, and that there are complex sub-issues. While no reasonable person can deny that the human embryo and fetus are living, reasonable people can disagree as to the point at which the embryo or fetus becomes sufficiently developed to be a "person" protected by law. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. 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URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Apr 25 17:25:17 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:25:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] comments on bookmark In-Reply-To: <4BC7D858.4030608@greens.org> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BBE9ECF.2020905@prodsyse.com> <4BC2485B.6090103@greens.org> <4BC27ED7.6030502@prodsyse.com> <4BC3CAEF.4090502@greens.org> <4BC3CF3A.3040106@prodsyse.com> <4BC532E8.5050000@greens.org> <4BC54CB5.4090400@sbcglobal.net> <4BC5696E.1000606@prodsyse.com> <4BC6516A.7030509@sbcglobal.net> <4BC67030.6080209@greens.org> <4BC68F4F.9060801@prodsyse.com> <4BC7D858.4030608@greens.org> Message-ID: <4BD4DD6D.6080102@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: I produced a "No on 14" bookmark that seemed to have a consensus and sent it April 16 to Jim Stauffer, Jim Doyle, Caroline Yacoub, Dale Warner, Merriam Kathleen, Tian Harter and Werner Bloomberg. Unfortunately, the template did not get turned into bookmarks, as I had expected. Tian said they could have been used last Wednesday for Earth Day. Last Friday, Caroline Yacoub asked me and three others to take care of this. I spoke with Dale Saturday morning; he said he had not received my email and did not have time then. I tried to call Merriam and Andrea without success. Might someone suggest a next step? Best Wishes, Spencer H: 408-294-5779 M: 408-655-4567 ##################### Thanks, Jim, Jim, et al.: I've revised the proposed bookmark based on the latest comments; see the text copied below or attached. This incorporates Stauffer's and Doyle's suggestions, I think, and I believe it reflects a consensus of just about everything I've heard on this issue, especially lately. DALE: When do you plan to produce these? Can you do it from the attached? I think you should feel free to make copies from the attached unless you hear something different before you have to go to press. ALL: From previous conversations, I believe Dale will probably do this tomorrow, Saturday. Caroline said we need them Sunday. We have space to add a few more words, but we are virtually out of time. Best Wishes, Spencer ############ CURRENT TEXT: No on Prop 14 Title: ?Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections? Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest voted candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, will elect more moderates. ---------- Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve goals. Fosters incumbency, limits choice, eliminates third parties from general election, and conflicts with other reforms. In Louisiana, only one incumbent lost in 30 years (1978-2006). Only one incumbent lost when Washington used it in 2008. More info: ?California Proposition 14 (2010)? in ballotpedia.org, StopTopTwo.org, or cagreens.org/erwg/ Prop14 ###################################### On 4/15/2010 8:24 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > Yes, I agree that a bookmark with references to web sites could be > useful. > > But it needs a statement of advocacy for the GP position: > > Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest > voted candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, > will elect more moderates. > > Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve > goals. Fosters incumbency, limits choice, and conflicts with other > reforms. > > > Jim S > > > > On 4/14/2010 9:00 PM, spencerg wrote: >> Dear Jim, et al.: >> >> >> 1. If you're preaching to the choir, you don't need the appearance of >> objectivity. However, our choir is quite small. To reach a larger >> audience, we need to appear more rational than the "Yes on 14" folks. >> They can buy votes, we afford to play that game. >> >> >> 2. Many people who won't take a quarter sheet will take a bookmark. >> Therefore, a decision to not offer a bookmark is a decision to say >> nothing to those who would take a bookmark but not a quarter sheet. >> >> >> 3. We can get a headline on a bookmark and follow with references to one >> or more web sites. We can have a little more than that but not much >> more. What do you think about following Tian's "No 14" art with Jim >> Doyle's text and something like, "More Info: 'StopTopTwo.org', >> 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', and 'California Proposition 14, 2010' in >> 'ballotpedia.org'. People like me will not be swayed by 'StopTopTwo.org' >> nor by 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', but will find 'ballotpedia.org' >> persuasive. And it all fits handily on a bookmark. You can delete the >> reference to 'ballotpedia.org' if you want. I think that would lessen >> your impact, but not as much as not producing a bookmark at all. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> >> On 4/14/2010 6:47 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >>> Jim makes valid points about what voters want from the GP, which is an >>> opinion on why they should or shouldn't support an issue. They're not >>> looking for neutral information, they're looking for a rational >>> argument. >>> >>> To be honest, I'm not sure the bookmark format works for this. >>> Changing to a new type of Primary is a complex issue that's difficult >>> to explain on something as small as a bookmark. Has anyone looked at >>> the 1/4-sheet handout on the GPCA web site? I think that's about as >>> small as you can get on this topic. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/14/2010 4:36 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>> Greetings all, >>>> >>>> The bookmark, or any other material, needs to have a punch line >>>> and a reason. The red circle is an exceellent eye catcher and the next >>>> two sentences - in bold face below - can be read in a matter of >>>> seconds. >>>> >>>> VOTE NO ON PROP 14 >>>> >>>> BECAUSE IT EFFECTIVELY ELIMINATES >>>> THIRD PARTIES FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION >>>> and >>>> ALLOWS PARTISANS OF ONE PARTY TO >>>> INFLUENCE THE SELECTION OF CANDIDATES >>>> OF ANOTHER PARTY. >>>> >>>> In my opinion, those are the messages that need to be presented >>>> and placed right at the top under the red circle. >>>> >>>> The rest can be backup information. >>>> I would also note that incumbents get reelected with or without >>>> open primaries. >>>> >>>> I would like to ask once again, how does the information on the >>>> current version work to sway the voters to vote no on Prop 14? >>>> >>>> The deadline should be Sunday or Monday to allow time for >>>> production prior to the tabling events next week. >>>> >>>> Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Apr 25 19:50:24 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:50:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] S.F. Bank Action Tuesday, and more Message-ID: <4BD4FF70.5010202@earthlink.net> There are several actions around the country next week against banks. Including one against Wells Fargo on Tuesday in San Francisco. Apparently there is an action against Bank of America in Syracuse (?!?). I would expect one against BofA in California, but I have not found it yet. Here is general info: "Showdown on Wall Street and K Street" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/25-4 "Showdown In America" ("Are you FED UP with Big Bank greed?" http://showdowninamerica.org/ And info about actions: http://showdowninamerica.org/take-action And Tuesday's action against Wells Fargo in S.F.: http://showdowninamerica.org/node/590 Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Apr 25 20:59:06 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:59:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] S.F. Bank Action Tuesday, and more In-Reply-To: <4BD4FF70.5010202@earthlink.net> References: <4BD4FF70.5010202@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4BD50F8A.7030606@prodsyse.com> HI, Gerry, et al.: We are organizing a "Take Your Money and Run" effort here in Santa Clara County. Anyone concerned may want to attend a "Food for Thought" event being organized for Saturday, May 22. It will start at 5 PM with snacks followed by dinner 5:15 - 6 PM, music 6 - 6:30 PM, then presentations and associated discussion 6:30 - 7:30 PM on Props 14 and 15 and on abusive banks and what we can do. Location to be announced later. I'm supposed to draft something for an announcement for the next Santa Clara County Green meeting, May 5th, 2010. Merriam Kathleen is (I think) the primary organizer. My role will be to provide some of the "raw meat" (figuratively), but I'd be pleased to have some help. My two primary agendas for this are as follows: 1. Select a sensible, local alternative host for our checking account. We currently bank with Wells Fargo. We will leave as quickly as we can select someplace else to go to. We thought that this is a task that would be better done with a group of like-minded people who can share the work of researching alternatives, so we are less likely to leave one unacceptable bank for something worse. 2. Find an organization to host a "Green Credit Card" with a contract that is half a page of simple English, easily understood and sensible. The credit card I use the most is with United Services Automobile Association, but as far as I know, only accept current and former military and their families as clients. We like them because they are a coop, not a corporation, they've treated us sensibly for over 40 years, and we get a slight rebate on our credit card bills. The "Green Credit Card" idea is partly to encourage people to "Take the pledge: No credit card debt." If you want to reduce the bonuses senior banking executives give themselves, do not bank with a major bank, do not carry any credit card debt, and find a company that offers more sensible credit card service. More broadly, I believe that to grow the Green party, we need to become a social movement first and a political party second. This is a first step in that direction. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer Graves On 4/25/2010 7:50 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > There are several actions around the country next week > against banks. Including one against Wells Fargo on > Tuesday in San Francisco. > > Apparently there is an action against Bank of America in > Syracuse (?!?). I would expect one against BofA in > California, but I have not found it yet. > > Here is general info: > > "Showdown on Wall Street and K Street" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/25-4 > > "Showdown In America" > ("Are you FED UP with Big Bank greed?" > http://showdowninamerica.org/ > > And info about actions: > http://showdowninamerica.org/take-action > > And Tuesday's action against Wells Fargo in S.F.: > http://showdowninamerica.org/node/590 > > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 25 22:00:55 2010 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <918013.57482.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> It's not so much about whether this issue belongs to the left or the right but about making serious advances in womyn's rights. Nearly four decades after this debate started, are we really that much closer in providing a society in which womyn do not have to choose abortions? I think this is a great opportunity to attract many disillusioned voters by connecting progressive causes such as truly universal health coverage, paid maternity and paternity leave, etc. with the idea that we can create a society where 10 years later, having an abortion would not be something women consider, because there is very little reason to. More often than not, womyn "choose" to have abortions because they see no other alternative. As a result, abortion has in a twisted way kept down the increasing rate of poverty in the United States (i.e. most abortions are by poor womyn) without addressing the root causes of poverty and has also had a disproportionate effect on communities of color (i.e. abortions are by far the leading cause of death among African Americans). While technically, the choice to keep the baby or not exists, society has already made the decision for many womyn before they even get to the doors of Planned Parenthood. Just because abortions are legal, does not mean that womyn have a choice and I think the Green Party in Illinois may be on to something here, something that needs discussion in other state parties. -edward --- On Sun, 4/25/10, sosfbay-discuss-request at cagreens.org wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:16:50 -0700 From: "Eric A. Meece" To: Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the ??? baby? Message-ID: <58F2BCFFDC5E482D8A5AEEA688459EBB at eameecePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I thought the "morning after pill" should have solved a lot of this problem. But like you say, the right-wing wants the issue. ? ----- Original Message ----- ? From: Brian Good ? To: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com ; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org ? Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:18 PM ? Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? ? ???Personally, having been through an unwanted-pregnancy scare and vicariously ? experienced another friend's abortion I consider abortion very nasty stuff.? Of course ? technology could solve the problem.? Extract the embryo from the mother who doesn't ? want it and grow it in an artificial womb for someone who does want it.? But that would ? be too simple, and it would remove the primary source of indignation that fuels poor ? red-staters' support of the Republicans' agenda that is antithetical to their own ? actual interests. ? ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ? Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:36:30 -0700 ? From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com ? To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org ? Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? ? ? ? ? The following is taken directly from the Illinois Green Party 2008 platform. Thoughts? ? ? ? ? ...many in the Green Party oppose the practice of abortion, motivated by a ?consistent ethic of life? (a commitment to the protection of life on the planet, which is threatened in today's world by war, poverty, environmental degradation, racism, capital punishment, abortion and euthanasia). The Ten Key Values of the Green Party are certainly consistent with this philosophy. We want to protect life, especially human life, and enhance the quality of that life. ? ? ? ? We acknowledge that people on both sides of the abortion "divide" are motivated by deeply held principles. We should not let the abortion issue divide people of good will, but should promote a unified struggle to create conditions that will make abortion increasingly unnecessary and rare. ? ? ? ? We also acknowledge that people on each side of the abortion "divide" don?t always agree with each other, and that there are complex sub-issues. While no reasonable person can deny that the human embryo and fetus are living, reasonable people can disagree as to the point at which the embryo or fetus becomes sufficiently developed to be a "person" protected by law. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Apr 25 17:15:30 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:15:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] comments on bookmark In-Reply-To: <4BC7D858.4030608@greens.org> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BBE9ECF.2020905@prodsyse.com> <4BC2485B.6090103@greens.org> <4BC27ED7.6030502@prodsyse.com> <4BC3CAEF.4090502@greens.org> <4BC3CF3A.3040106@prodsyse.com> <4BC532E8.5050000@greens.org> <4BC54CB5.4090400@sbcglobal.net> <4BC5696E.1000606@prodsyse.com> <4BC6516A.7030509@sbcglobal.net> <4BC67030.6080209@greens.org> <4BC68F4F.9060801@prodsyse.com> <4BC7D858.4030608@greens.org> Message-ID: <4BD4DB22.5050909@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: I produced a "No on 14" bookmark that seemed to have a consensus and sent it April 16 to Jim Stauffer, Jim Doyle, Caroline Yacoub, Dale Warner, Merriam Kathleen, Tian Harter and Werner Bloomberg. Unfortunately, the template did not get turned into bookmarks, as I had expected. Tian said they could have been used last Wednesday for Earth Day. Last Friday, Caroline Yacoub asked me and three others to take care of this. I spoke with Dale Saturday morning; he said he had not received my email and did not have time then. I tried to call Merriam and Andrea without success. Might someone suggest a next step? Best Wishes, Spencer H: 408-294-5779 M: 408-655-4567 ##################### Thanks, Jim, Jim, et al.: I've revised the proposed bookmark based on the latest comments; see the text copied below or attached. This incorporates Stauffer's and Doyle's suggestions, I think, and I believe it reflects a consensus of just about everything I've heard on this issue, especially lately. DALE: When do you plan to produce these? Can you do it from the attached? I think you should feel free to make copies from the attached unless you hear something different before you have to go to press. ALL: From previous conversations, I believe Dale will probably do this tomorrow, Saturday. Caroline said we need them Sunday. We have space to add a few more words, but we are virtually out of time. Best Wishes, Spencer ############ CURRENT TEXT: No on Prop 14 Title: ?Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections? Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest voted candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, will elect more moderates. ---------- Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve goals. Fosters incumbency, limits choice, eliminates third parties from general election, and conflicts with other reforms. In Louisiana, only one incumbent lost in 30 years (1978-2006). Only one incumbent lost when Washington used it in 2008. More info: ?California Proposition 14 (2010)? in ballotpedia.org, StopTopTwo.org, or cagreens.org/erwg/ Prop14 ###################################### On 4/15/2010 8:24 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > Yes, I agree that a bookmark with references to web sites could be > useful. > > But it needs a statement of advocacy for the GP position: > > Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest > voted candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, > will elect more moderates. > > Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve > goals. Fosters incumbency, limits choice, and conflicts with other > reforms. > > > Jim S > > > > On 4/14/2010 9:00 PM, spencerg wrote: >> Dear Jim, et al.: >> >> >> 1. If you're preaching to the choir, you don't need the appearance of >> objectivity. However, our choir is quite small. To reach a larger >> audience, we need to appear more rational than the "Yes on 14" folks. >> They can buy votes, we afford to play that game. >> >> >> 2. Many people who won't take a quarter sheet will take a bookmark. >> Therefore, a decision to not offer a bookmark is a decision to say >> nothing to those who would take a bookmark but not a quarter sheet. >> >> >> 3. We can get a headline on a bookmark and follow with references to one >> or more web sites. We can have a little more than that but not much >> more. What do you think about following Tian's "No 14" art with Jim >> Doyle's text and something like, "More Info: 'StopTopTwo.org', >> 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', and 'California Proposition 14, 2010' in >> 'ballotpedia.org'. People like me will not be swayed by 'StopTopTwo.org' >> nor by 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', but will find 'ballotpedia.org' >> persuasive. And it all fits handily on a bookmark. You can delete the >> reference to 'ballotpedia.org' if you want. I think that would lessen >> your impact, but not as much as not producing a bookmark at all. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> >> On 4/14/2010 6:47 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >>> Jim makes valid points about what voters want from the GP, which is an >>> opinion on why they should or shouldn't support an issue. They're not >>> looking for neutral information, they're looking for a rational >>> argument. >>> >>> To be honest, I'm not sure the bookmark format works for this. >>> Changing to a new type of Primary is a complex issue that's difficult >>> to explain on something as small as a bookmark. Has anyone looked at >>> the 1/4-sheet handout on the GPCA web site? I think that's about as >>> small as you can get on this topic. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/14/2010 4:36 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>> Greetings all, >>>> >>>> The bookmark, or any other material, needs to have a punch line >>>> and a reason. The red circle is an exceellent eye catcher and the next >>>> two sentences - in bold face below - can be read in a matter of >>>> seconds. >>>> >>>> VOTE NO ON PROP 14 >>>> >>>> BECAUSE IT EFFECTIVELY ELIMINATES >>>> THIRD PARTIES FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION >>>> and >>>> ALLOWS PARTISANS OF ONE PARTY TO >>>> INFLUENCE THE SELECTION OF CANDIDATES >>>> OF ANOTHER PARTY. >>>> >>>> In my opinion, those are the messages that need to be presented >>>> and placed right at the top under the red circle. >>>> >>>> The rest can be backup information. >>>> I would also note that incumbents get reelected with or without >>>> open primaries. >>>> >>>> I would like to ask once again, how does the information on the >>>> current version work to sway the voters to vote no on Prop 14? >>>> >>>> The deadline should be Sunday or Monday to allow time for >>>> production prior to the tabling events next week. >>>> >>>> Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Mon Apr 26 08:03:37 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Consistent Life Ethic: ban the bomb, not the baby? Message-ID: <20100426150337.727B66A973@truffula.sj.ca.us> Where abortion is illegal, a pregnant woman becomes the worst kind of slave to the state. There are political disagreements where one can compromise with one's opponents. For me, the woman's right of self determination, which includes the right to abortion on demand, isn't one of those. I'm not interested in compromising with people who think chattel slavery is okay. I don't care whether their support for slavery is grounded in religion or intuition or indoctrination. I know it's not grounded in science, nor in respect for widely recognized human rights. I'm afraid conditions will pertain for the forseeable future where women become pregnant against their will. And there will always be people whose religion, whether they call it that or not, drives them to try to use the force of the state to deny those women their self determination. You don't need rights to do stuff that nobody wants you to stop you from doing. Freedom of speech is for unpopular speech. Freedom of religion includes freedom *from* religion, especially state sponsored religion. Access to safe abortions is for women pregnant against their will faced with the ultimate loss of liberty. -Cameron From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Apr 26 13:49:59 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:49:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] comments on bookmark In-Reply-To: <4BD4DD6D.6080102@prodsyse.com> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BBE9ECF.2020905@prodsyse.com><4BC2485B.6090103@greens.org> <4BC27ED7.6030502@prodsyse.com><4BC3CAEF.4090502@greens.org> <4BC3CF3A.3040106@prodsyse.com><4BC532E8.5050000@greens.org> <4BC54CB5.4090400@sbcglobal.net><4BC5696E.1000606@prodsyse.com><4BC6516A.7030509@sbcglobal.net> <4BC67030.6080209@greens.org><4BC68F4F.9060801@prodsyse.com> <4BC7D858.4030608@greens.org> <4BD4DD6D.6080102@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <4BD5FC77.6030408@aceweb.com> I'm thinking the thing to do is print some of them up and see if they work while tabling. What's the problem with that? Tian spencerg wrote: > Hello, All: > > > I produced a "No on 14" bookmark that seemed to have a consensus > and sent it April 16 to Jim Stauffer, Jim Doyle, Caroline Yacoub, Dale > Warner, Merriam Kathleen, Tian Harter and Werner Bloomberg. > Unfortunately, the template did not get turned into bookmarks, as I had > expected. Tian said they could have been used last Wednesday for Earth > Day. Last Friday, Caroline Yacoub asked me and three others to take > care of this. I spoke with Dale Saturday morning; he said he had not > received my email and did not have time then. I tried to call Merriam > and Andrea without success. > > > Might someone suggest a next step? > Best Wishes, > Spencer > H: 408-294-5779 > M: 408-655-4567 > > > ##################### > Thanks, Jim, Jim, et al.: > > > I've revised the proposed bookmark based on the latest comments; > see the text copied below or attached. This incorporates Stauffer's > and Doyle's suggestions, I think, and I believe it reflects a consensus > of just about everything I've heard on this issue, especially lately. > > > DALE: When do you plan to produce these? Can you do it from the > attached? I think you should feel free to make copies from the attached > unless you hear something different before you have to go to press. > > > ALL: > > > From previous conversations, I believe Dale will probably do this > tomorrow, Saturday. Caroline said we need them Sunday. > > > We have space to add a few more words, but we are virtually out > of time. > > > Best Wishes, > Spencer > ############ > CURRENT TEXT: > > No on Prop 14 > > Title: ?Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections? > > Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest voted > candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, will elect > more moderates. > > ---------- > > Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve goals. > Fosters incumbency, limits choice, eliminates third parties from general > election, and conflicts with other reforms. In Louisiana, only one > incumbent lost in 30 years (1978-2006). Only one incumbent lost when > Washington used it in 2008. > > More info: ?California Proposition 14 (2010)? in ballotpedia.org, > StopTopTwo.org, or cagreens.org/erwg/ Prop14 > > > ###################################### > > On 4/15/2010 8:24 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >> Yes, I agree that a bookmark with references to web sites could be >> useful. >> >> But it needs a statement of advocacy for the GP position: >> >> Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest >> voted candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, >> will elect more moderates. >> >> Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve >> goals. Fosters incumbency, limits choice, and conflicts with other >> reforms. >> >> >> Jim S >> >> >> >> On 4/14/2010 9:00 PM, spencerg wrote: >>> Dear Jim, et al.: >>> >>> >>> 1. If you're preaching to the choir, you don't need the appearance of >>> objectivity. However, our choir is quite small. To reach a larger >>> audience, we need to appear more rational than the "Yes on 14" folks. >>> They can buy votes, we afford to play that game. >>> >>> >>> 2. Many people who won't take a quarter sheet will take a bookmark. >>> Therefore, a decision to not offer a bookmark is a decision to say >>> nothing to those who would take a bookmark but not a quarter sheet. >>> >>> >>> 3. We can get a headline on a bookmark and follow with references to one >>> or more web sites. We can have a little more than that but not much >>> more. What do you think about following Tian's "No 14" art with Jim >>> Doyle's text and something like, "More Info: 'StopTopTwo.org', >>> 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', and 'California Proposition 14, 2010' in >>> 'ballotpedia.org'. People like me will not be swayed by 'StopTopTwo.org' >>> nor by 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', but will find 'ballotpedia.org' >>> persuasive. And it all fits handily on a bookmark. You can delete the >>> reference to 'ballotpedia.org' if you want. I think that would lessen >>> your impact, but not as much as not producing a bookmark at all. >>> >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> Spencer >>> >>> >>> On 4/14/2010 6:47 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >>>> Jim makes valid points about what voters want from the GP, which is an >>>> opinion on why they should or shouldn't support an issue. They're not >>>> looking for neutral information, they're looking for a rational >>>> argument. >>>> >>>> To be honest, I'm not sure the bookmark format works for this. >>>> Changing to a new type of Primary is a complex issue that's difficult >>>> to explain on something as small as a bookmark. Has anyone looked at >>>> the 1/4-sheet handout on the GPCA web site? I think that's about as >>>> small as you can get on this topic. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/14/2010 4:36 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>>> Greetings all, >>>>> >>>>> The bookmark, or any other material, needs to have a punch line >>>>> and a reason. The red circle is an exceellent eye catcher and the next >>>>> two sentences - in bold face below - can be read in a matter of >>>>> seconds. >>>>> >>>>> VOTE NO ON PROP 14 >>>>> >>>>> BECAUSE IT EFFECTIVELY ELIMINATES >>>>> THIRD PARTIES FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION >>>>> and >>>>> ALLOWS PARTISANS OF ONE PARTY TO >>>>> INFLUENCE THE SELECTION OF CANDIDATES >>>>> OF ANOTHER PARTY. >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, those are the messages that need to be presented >>>>> and placed right at the top under the red circle. >>>>> >>>>> The rest can be backup information. >>>>> I would also note that incumbents get reelected with or without >>>>> open primaries. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to ask once again, how does the information on the >>>>> current version work to sway the voters to vote no on Prop 14? >>>>> >>>>> The deadline should be Sunday or Monday to allow time for >>>>> production prior to the tabling events next week. >>>>> >>>>> Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest addition: Pictures and words about San Jose's 4/15 Tea Party. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Apr 26 18:58:37 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:58:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] comments on bookmark In-Reply-To: <4BD5FC77.6030408@aceweb.com> References: <778458.98884.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4BBE9ECF.2020905@prodsyse.com><4BC2485B.6090103@greens.org> <4BC27ED7.6030502@prodsyse.com><4BC3CAEF.4090502@greens.org> <4BC3CF3A.3040106@prodsyse.com><4BC532E8.5050000@greens.org> <4BC54CB5.4090400@sbcglobal.net><4BC5696E.1000606@prodsyse.com><4BC6516A.7030509@sbcglobal.net> <4BC67030.6080209@greens.org><4BC68F4F.9060801@prodsyse.com> <4BC7D858.4030608@greens.org> <4BD4DD6D.6080102@prodsyse.com> <4BD5FC77.6030408@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4BD644CD.1020207@prodsyse.com> Hi, Tian: How many would you like, on what kind of paper? I can produce some on cheap, plain white paper with my color inkjet printer and 13 inch square paper trimmer. If you want higher class card stock, I can provide a master for someone else to do that. I plan to bring some to the Green meeting May 5, a week from Wednesday. Best Wishes, Spencer On 4/26/2010 1:49 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > I'm thinking the thing to do is print some of them up and see if they > work while tabling. What's the problem with that? > > Tian > > spencerg wrote: > >> Hello, All: >> >> >> I produced a "No on 14" bookmark that seemed to have a consensus >> and sent it April 16 to Jim Stauffer, Jim Doyle, Caroline Yacoub, Dale >> Warner, Merriam Kathleen, Tian Harter and Werner Bloomberg. >> Unfortunately, the template did not get turned into bookmarks, as I had >> expected. Tian said they could have been used last Wednesday for Earth >> Day. Last Friday, Caroline Yacoub asked me and three others to take >> care of this. I spoke with Dale Saturday morning; he said he had not >> received my email and did not have time then. I tried to call Merriam >> and Andrea without success. >> >> >> Might someone suggest a next step? >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> H: 408-294-5779 >> M: 408-655-4567 >> >> >> ##################### >> Thanks, Jim, Jim, et al.: >> >> >> I've revised the proposed bookmark based on the latest comments; >> see the text copied below or attached. This incorporates Stauffer's >> and Doyle's suggestions, I think, and I believe it reflects a consensus >> of just about everything I've heard on this issue, especially lately. >> >> >> DALE: When do you plan to produce these? Can you do it from the >> attached? I think you should feel free to make copies from the attached >> unless you hear something different before you have to go to press. >> >> >> ALL: >> >> >> From previous conversations, I believe Dale will probably do this >> tomorrow, Saturday. Caroline said we need them Sunday. >> >> >> We have space to add a few more words, but we are virtually out >> of time. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> ############ >> CURRENT TEXT: >> >> No on Prop 14 >> >> Title: ?Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections? >> >> Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest voted >> candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, will elect >> more moderates. >> >> ---------- >> >> Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve goals. >> Fosters incumbency, limits choice, eliminates third parties from general >> election, and conflicts with other reforms. In Louisiana, only one >> incumbent lost in 30 years (1978-2006). Only one incumbent lost when >> Washington used it in 2008. >> >> More info: ?California Proposition 14 (2010)? in ballotpedia.org, >> StopTopTwo.org, or cagreens.org/erwg/ Prop14 >> >> >> ###################################### >> >> On 4/15/2010 8:24 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >> >>> Yes, I agree that a bookmark with references to web sites could be >>> useful. >>> >>> But it needs a statement of advocacy for the GP position: >>> >>> Proposed system: Non-partisan, open primary. Only the two highest >>> voted candidates allowed into the general election. Theoretically, >>> will elect more moderates. >>> >>> Opponents' analysis: Has been tried elsewhere and did not achieve >>> goals. Fosters incumbency, limits choice, and conflicts with other >>> reforms. >>> >>> >>> Jim S >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/14/2010 9:00 PM, spencerg wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Jim, et al.: >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. If you're preaching to the choir, you don't need the appearance of >>>> objectivity. However, our choir is quite small. To reach a larger >>>> audience, we need to appear more rational than the "Yes on 14" folks. >>>> They can buy votes, we afford to play that game. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2. Many people who won't take a quarter sheet will take a bookmark. >>>> Therefore, a decision to not offer a bookmark is a decision to say >>>> nothing to those who would take a bookmark but not a quarter sheet. >>>> >>>> >>>> 3. We can get a headline on a bookmark and follow with references to one >>>> or more web sites. We can have a little more than that but not much >>>> more. What do you think about following Tian's "No 14" art with Jim >>>> Doyle's text and something like, "More Info: 'StopTopTwo.org', >>>> 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', and 'California Proposition 14, 2010' in >>>> 'ballotpedia.org'. People like me will not be swayed by 'StopTopTwo.org' >>>> nor by 'cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14', but will find 'ballotpedia.org' >>>> persuasive. And it all fits handily on a bookmark. You can delete the >>>> reference to 'ballotpedia.org' if you want. I think that would lessen >>>> your impact, but not as much as not producing a bookmark at all. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/14/2010 6:47 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim makes valid points about what voters want from the GP, which is an >>>>> opinion on why they should or shouldn't support an issue. They're not >>>>> looking for neutral information, they're looking for a rational >>>>> argument. >>>>> >>>>> To be honest, I'm not sure the bookmark format works for this. >>>>> Changing to a new type of Primary is a complex issue that's difficult >>>>> to explain on something as small as a bookmark. Has anyone looked at >>>>> the 1/4-sheet handout on the GPCA web site? I think that's about as >>>>> small as you can get on this topic. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4/14/2010 4:36 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Greetings all, >>>>>> >>>>>> The bookmark, or any other material, needs to have a punch line >>>>>> and a reason. The red circle is an exceellent eye catcher and the next >>>>>> two sentences - in bold face below - can be read in a matter of >>>>>> seconds. >>>>>> >>>>>> VOTE NO ON PROP 14 >>>>>> >>>>>> BECAUSE IT EFFECTIVELY ELIMINATES >>>>>> THIRD PARTIES FROM THE GENERAL ELECTION >>>>>> and >>>>>> ALLOWS PARTISANS OF ONE PARTY TO >>>>>> INFLUENCE THE SELECTION OF CANDIDATES >>>>>> OF ANOTHER PARTY. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my opinion, those are the messages that need to be presented >>>>>> and placed right at the top under the red circle. >>>>>> >>>>>> The rest can be backup information. >>>>>> I would also note that incumbents get reelected with or without >>>>>> open primaries. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to ask once again, how does the information on the >>>>>> current version work to sway the voters to vote no on Prop 14? >>>>>> >>>>>> The deadline should be Sunday or Monday to allow time for >>>>>> production prior to the tabling events next week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 27 09:48:12 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 09:48:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] gmo gm/ge regulations - WTO Message-ID: <4BD7154C.60302@sbcglobal.net> This excerpt is from Food Democracy Now http://fooddemocracynow.org/ If the U.S. government has its way, a powerful intergovernmental group you?ve probably never heard of may soon prevent anyone anywhere from labeling genetically modified (GMO) food. Operated by the United Nations, the Codex Alimentarius is a collection of guidelines, codes and recommendations regarding food safety and labeling standards which are used by the World Trade Organization (WTO) to settle international disputes regarding food and agricultural trade agreements. The U.S. Delegation to the Codex meeting is adopting a position that would make it virtually impossible to label foods as "GMO-free" anywhere in the world. *Click on the link below to stop this end-run around our democratic process and make sure the voice of the American people is heard on GMO labeling*. *http://action.fooddemocracynow.org/go/copy_sneak_attack/130?akid=122.48580.GgSd5a&t=7 * From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 27 10:41:43 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:41:43 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] May Day leafletting Message-ID: <4BD721D7.4090307@sbcglobal.net> Where will you be on Saturday May 1-st at 4 pm? Story and King in San Jose is the starting point of a march for immigrant rights that ends at the San Jose city hall. I would suggest leafletting with the Green Party position on immigration. Are you ambitious? Carry the Green Party banner in the march. Please let me know if you are interested. Jim Doyle (408) 269-3299 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 27 10:42:49 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:42:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] call for agenda items Message-ID: <4BD72219.9020800@sbcglobal.net> Let me know what you deem to be appropriate agenda items for our Wednesday May 5-th meeting. Jim Doyle From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Apr 27 10:53:45 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:53:45 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] call for agenda items In-Reply-To: <4BD72219.9020800@sbcglobal.net> References: <4BD72219.9020800@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4BD724A9.2090405@prodsyse.com> prop 14 bookmark. Shouldn't take much time. Should be completed by then. Spencer On 4/27/2010 10:42 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Let me know what you deem to be appropriate agenda items > for our Wednesday May 5-th meeting. > > Jim Doyle > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Apr 27 10:54:55 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:54:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] May Day leafletting In-Reply-To: <4BD721D7.4090307@sbcglobal.net> References: <4BD721D7.4090307@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4BD724EF.30307@prodsyse.com> Could you use "No Prop 14" bookmarks? If yes, how can we get same to whomever will be there? Spencer Graves (408)655-4567 On 4/27/2010 10:41 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Where will you be on Saturday May 1-st at 4 pm? > Story and King in San Jose is the starting point of a march for > immigrant rights that ends at the San Jose city hall. > > I would suggest leafletting with the Green Party position > on immigration. > > Are you ambitious? Carry the Green Party banner in the march. > > Please let me know if you are interested. > > Jim Doyle > (408) 269-3299 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Apr 28 14:51:01 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:51:01 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Amy Goodman at Stanford Thurs. 4/29 7:30 pm Message-ID: http://tour.democracynow.org/2010/04/stanford_ca.html She'll be speaking at Stanford Law School Thursday night in room CQ290 to kick off an all-day conference on Friday, "The Future of Journalism: Unpacking the Rhetoric". The conference consists of four panels, each addressing one of the tenets of current conventional wisdom about the media: Professional journalism must be saved Information wants to be free We are all journalists now The Web has eroded the quality of public discourse http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/futureofnews/about/conference-agenda/ All the events are free, but if you want to attend the conference you'll need to register before 5 pm today. http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/futureofnews/2010/04/28/registration-to-close-at-5-p-m-pst/ _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 28 15:27:08 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:27:08 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] leafletting opportunities Message-ID: <4BD8B63C.9060109@sbcglobal.net> The League of Women Voters is sponsoring several forums on the pros and cons of ballot measures. Perhaps someone would like to distribute no on 14 info at these events. *PRO & CON Ballot Forums:* * May 8, 2:30 pm (LWVSJ/SC with AAUW), Willow Glen Library * May 11, 7:00 pm, Mercy Housing, Plaza Maria Apts., 115 E. Reed St., San Jose * May 13, 7:30 am, Kiwanis Club * May 13, 6:30 pm, Santa Clara Lions Club, 1680 Martin Ave., Santa Clara (sponsored by LWV Sunnyvale/Cupertino) * May 18, Independent Living Center, 2202 N. First St., San Jose From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 29 08:34:01 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:34:01 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] green focus / pre-agenda item Message-ID: <4BD9A6E9.5010700@sbcglobal.net> How many shall we order? Who is going to be passing them out during the month of May and the first week of June? Early replies would be appreciated and of course there will be more on this topic at the Wednesday meeting. Jim Doyle GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Green Focus's campaign issue will be released at the beginning of May. Green Focus is THE News Magazine for the GPCA and this issue has important 'to distribute for the primary' as promptly as possible information included! This issue is focused on the June primary, including State, National and Local Green candidates, initiatives, and featuring the urgency of the NO ON PROP 14. This issue is also designed as a solicitation tool to garner assistance for GPCA to support our candidates and issues in the ensuing election cycle. Your may order bundles (100 copies) by sending an email to: Your order will be processed immediately upon receipt of 2 items: 1. A delivery address that can be serviced by UPS or US Mail, 2. An email address and phone # of she/he who is receiving/remitting the billing. Anticipated cost is $25 per bundle, Until all the news magazines are gone- No One Will Be Turned Away! If you or your local can't pay right away, we will work that out with you! We can even cover the shipping for you! Please include any special circumstances in your email, or call: 530.620.6659 if you have additional questions. Thank you, Green Focus Editorial Board /mb /cv _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 29 08:39:04 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:39:04 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] call for agenda items Message-ID: <4BD9A818.1020909@sbcglobal.net> Submit your agenda items, avoid the last minute rush. Thus far we have 1) endorsement 2) food for thought 3) green focus Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 29 08:46:55 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:46:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] immigration reform march - leafletting Message-ID: <4BD9A9EF.5040108@sbcglobal.net> More details on this fabulous leafletting opportunity: * *March for Just & Humane Immigration Reform ** *Saturday, May 1 at 3:30 PM * *From Story & King Roads to San Jose City Hall* * *Join the annual May Day March for just and humane immigration reform and for the protection of our civil, labor, and human rights! Music will begin at Mi Pueblo Plaza at 2:00 pm and the opening rally will begin at 3:30 pm. At 4 pm, the march will proceed from King & Story Roads to San Jose City Hall at 5th and Santa Clara Streets. There will be music and special speakers before and after the march. Jim Doyle From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Apr 29 10:08:52 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:08:52 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Next 350.org action Message-ID: <4BD9BD24.2000603@earthlink.net> The next 350.org action will be on 10/10/10. For more information: http://350.org If you want to receive emails about 10/10/10, you can easily sign up there. NOTE: this is a different list than for previous events. Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Apr 29 14:59:05 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] immigration reform march - leafletting In-Reply-To: <4BD9A9EF.5040108@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <568365.58270.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If anybody would like Spanish language materials for this event, please let me know ASAP so I can duplicate some. Caroline --- On Thu, 4/29/10, Jim Doyle wrote: From: Jim Doyle Subject: [GPSCC-chat] immigration reform march - leafletting To: "sosfbay discussion group" Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 8:46 AM More details on this fabulous leafletting opportunity: * *March for Just & Humane Immigration Reform ** *Saturday, May 1 at 3:30 PM * *From Story & King Roads to San Jose City Hall* * *Join the annual May Day March for just and humane immigration reform and for the protection of our civil, labor, and human rights! Music will begin at Mi Pueblo Plaza at 2:00 pm and the opening rally will begin at 3:30 pm.? At 4 pm, the march will proceed from King & Story Roads to San Jose City Hall at 5th and Santa Clara Streets. There will be music and special speakers before and after the march. 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