From wrolley at charter.net Fri Jan 1 10:08:08 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:08:08 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 2010 Reading List Message-ID: <4B3E3A08.4060902@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Fri Jan 1 23:41:51 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 23:41:51 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Native Garden Foundation Newsletter References: <1102898514970.1101779955854.2382.3.90030552@scheduler> Message-ID: These advocates are fighting to keep a sustainable organic gardening space open for all of us to use and enjoy. This seems to me to be a worthwhile project for us Greens to support as the environmentalists that we purport to be. What do you think? Can you attend this hearing? Andrea Begin forwarded message: > > A Letter from Alrie Middlebrook > A Hearing and a Master Plan > > Dear Friends and Supporters, > > The city wants to pave paradise and put up a parking lot at 76 Race > Street, home of Middlebrook Gardens Nursery and headquarters of > CNGF. The first hearing ended in favor of the city, but we have not > given up! > > The second land-use appeal hearing date before the San Jose > Planning Commission has been set! Please mark your calendars and > join us to show your support. > > January 13, 2010 at 6:30 pm > San Jose City Hall Council Chambers > 200 E. Santa Clara Street, San Jose > (See map link and parking suggestions at the end of this letter.) > > If you wrote a letter of support or attended our last hearing, can > we count on you again? And if you did not, will you do it now? > > Please direct emails to the following individuals: > > Mike Enderby - Senior Planner, Dept. of Planning, Building & Code > Enforcement - mike.enderby at sanjoseca.gov > CC to: Joseph Horwedel, Planning Director, City of San Jose - > joseph.horwedel at sanjoseca.gov > CC to: Laurel Prevetti, Deputy Director of Planning Service, City > of San Jose - > laurel.prevetti at sanjoseca.gov > > If you choose to mail a letter, please send to: > > City of San Jose Department of Planning, Building & Code Enforcement > Attn: Mike Enderby > 200 East Santa Clara Street, 3rd Floor Tower > San Jose, CA 95113-1905 > > If you can attend this meeting and show your physical support, it > will make a HUGE difference. Can we count on you to help us fill > the room? > > Since our first hearing in October, this is what we have been > working to accomplish: > > The California Native Garden Foundation is providing outdoor > classroom space for St. Leo The Great School next door. Beginning > in February, CNGF and Middlebrook Gardens will host classes for at > least four classroom teachers. We'll be working on understanding > and observing fungi culture, building worm bins, composting and > growing winter veggies. We have CNGF volunteers pledging their time > to assist the classroom teachers with their lessons in our outdoor > and indoor classrooms. > > The busy Middlebrook Gardens staff is getting things ready! > We are building a gate for the students easy access adjacent to > their school. > We are taking down our chain link fence and creating a new > attractive entry from Race Street. > We're cleaning out and sprucing up our indoor classroom space. > Volunteers are welcome to lend a hand! > We will be installing a greywater system that will also function as > a teaching aid for future classes. > We have submitted 76 Race Street as a possible test garden site for > the Sustainable Sites Initiative, the national rating system for > sustainable landscaping, comparable to LEEDs Certification in > Architecture. > We are setting up student internship work programs with Foothill > College, Cabrillo College, Santa Clara University, and San Jose > State. (If you are or know of a student in horticulture, design, > art, nutrition, environmental studies, or engineering in any of > these schools, who must fulfill an internship requirement, please > contact us. We have projects ready for you!) > On Saturday, January 9, at noon and at 3 p.m., I will present a > slideshow called A Master Plan to show you what 76 Race Street can > look like as a teaching playground and outdoor classroom. This > proposed land use at the corner of Garland Street and Race Street > will demonstrate to our community what the future San Jose could > look like. To protect and perpetuate nature in San Jose, the city > could make room for native gardens, edible gardens, vertical urban > farms, subterranean classrooms with living roofs that supply food, > and other features that are all included in the master plan. > > Join us for the presentation on January 9 (noon or 3 pm) at 76 Race > Street and again at the hearing on January 13 (6:30 pm) at the San > Jose City Hall Council Chambers. > > Thanking you in advance for your much appreciated support, > Alrie Middlebrook, staff, and all the volunteers at CNGF > > Map to San Jose City Hall, 200 E. Santa Clara Street, San Jose > > Parking for San Jose City Hall: > 4th Street Garage > 44 S. Fourth St. @ San Fernando > Across from the Library > Cost: $3.00 after 6:00PM > > City Hall Garage > 200 E. Santa Clara Street @ 6th Street > Cost: $0.75 every 20 minutes, $15 max > More City Hall info at http://www.sanjoseca.gov/newcityhall/ > gettingThere.asp#driving > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sat Jan 2 08:19:45 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:19:45 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [SPAM] Fwd: California Native Garden Foundation Newsletter In-Reply-To: References: <1102898514970.1101779955854.2382.3.90030552@scheduler> Message-ID: <4B3F7221.4050208@charter.net> Andrea Dorey wrote: > These advocates are fighting to keep a sustainable organic gardening > space open for all of us to use and enjoy. > This seems to me to be a worthwhile project for us Greens to support > as the environmentalists that we purport to be. > What do you think? Can you attend this hearing? > Andrea > > Begin forwarded message: I am neither that subject expert (like CA Native Plant Society) nor am I a resident of San Jose . Any appearances, letter, would be better received if they came from people who might vote in a San Jose election. If someone can start putting together a list of San Jose Greens who could respond, I would be willing to draft talking point and post them to this list or pass them on to the person doing the organizing. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From andid at cagreens.org Sat Jan 2 12:11:00 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:11:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Native Garden Foundation Newsletter In-Reply-To: <479726.46334.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1102898514970.1101779955854.2382.3.90030552@scheduler> <479726.46334.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1A7AAD0F-473B-47F8-A204-4F560C2A9686@cagreens.org> Caroline, I would like to see some lists that categorize Greens by district and/ or city so we can use them in situations like this. (I guess that's what you mean about getting drupal.) Wes is quite right about us getting more efficient in this manner, so we can target the affected voters. Andrea On Jan 2, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Isn't this the time for drupal? Somebody ought to be able to > communicate with all San Jose Greens--now. No? > Caroline > > From: Andrea Dorey > To: Wes Rolley > Cc: Green South Bay Discussion > Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 11:41:51 PM > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Native Garden Foundation > Newsletter > > These advocates are fighting to keep a sustainable organic > gardening space open for all of us to use and enjoy. > This seems to me to be a worthwhile project for us Greens to > support as the environmentalists that we purport to be. > What do you think? Can you attend this hearing? > Andrea > > Begin forwarded message: > >> >> A Letter from Alrie Middlebrook >> A Hearing and a Master Plan >> >> Dear Friends and Supporters, >> >> The city wants to pave paradise and put up a parking lot at 76 >> Race Street, home of Middlebrook Gardens Nursery and headquarters >> of CNGF. The first hearing ended in favor of the city, but we have >> not given up! >> >> The second land-use appeal hearing date before the San Jose >> Planning Commission has been set! Please mark your calendars and >> join us to show your support. >> >> January 13, 2010 at 6:30 pm >> San Jose City Hall Council Chambers >> 200 E. Santa Clara Street, San Jose >> (See map link and parking suggestions at the end of this letter.) >> >> If you wrote a letter of support or attended our last hearing, can >> we count on you again? And if you did not, will you do it now? >> >> Please direct emails to the following individuals: >> >> Mike Enderby - Senior Planner, Dept. of Planning, Building & Code >> Enforcement - mike.enderby at sanjoseca.gov >> CC to: Joseph Horwedel, Planning Director, City of San Jose - >> joseph.horwedel at sanjoseca.gov >> CC to: Laurel Prevetti, Deputy Director of Planning Service, City >> of San Jose - >> laurel.prevetti at sanjoseca.gov >> >> If you choose to mail a letter, please send to: >> >> City of San Jose Department of Planning, Building & Code Enforcement >> Attn: Mike Enderby >> 200 East Santa Clara Street, 3rd Floor Tower >> San Jose, CA 95113-1905 >> >> If you can attend this meeting and show your physical support, it >> will make a HUGE difference. Can we count on you to help us fill >> the room? >> >> Since our first hearing in October, this is what we have been >> working to accomplish: >> >> The California Native Garden Foundation is providing outdoor >> classroom space for St. Leo The Great School next door. Beginning >> in February, CNGF and Middlebrook Gardens will host classes for at >> least four classroom teachers. We'll be working on understanding >> and observing fungi culture, building worm bins, composting and >> growing winter veggies. We have CNGF volunteers pledging their >> time to assist the classroom teachers with their lessons in our >> outdoor and indoor classrooms. >> >> The busy Middlebrook Gardens staff is getting things ready! >> We are building a gate for the students easy access adjacent to >> their school. >> We are taking down our chain link fence and creating a new >> attractive entry from Race Street. >> We're cleaning out and sprucing up our indoor classroom space. >> Volunteers are welcome to lend a hand! >> We will be installing a greywater system that will also function >> as a teaching aid for future classes. >> We have submitted 76 Race Street as a possible test garden site >> for the Sustainable Sites Initiative, the national rating system >> for sustainable landscaping, comparable to LEEDs Certification in >> Architecture. >> We are setting up student internship work programs with Foothill >> College, Cabrillo College, Santa Clara University, and San Jose >> State. (If you are or know of a student in horticulture, design, >> art, nutrition, environmental studies, or engineering in any of >> these schools, who must fulfill an internship requirement, please >> contact us. We have projects ready for you!) >> On Saturday, January 9, at noon and at 3 p.m., I will present a >> slideshow called A Master Plan to show you what 76 Race Street can >> look like as a teaching playground and outdoor classroom. This >> proposed land use at the corner of Garland Street and Race Street >> will demonstrate to our community what the future San Jose could >> look like. To protect and perpetuate nature in San Jose, the city >> could make room for native gardens, edible gardens, vertical urban >> farms, subterranean classrooms with living roofs that supply food, >> and other features that are all included in the master plan. >> >> Join us for the presentation on January 9 (noon or 3 pm) at 76 >> Race Street and again at the hearing on January 13 (6:30 pm) at >> the San Jose City Hall Council Chambers. >> >> Thanking you in advance for your much appreciated support, >> Alrie Middlebrook, staff, and all the volunteers at CNGF >> >> Map to San Jose City Hall, 200 E. Santa Clara Street, San Jose >> >> Parking for San Jose City Hall: >> 4th Street Garage >> 44 S. Fourth St. @ San Fernando >> Across from the Library >> Cost: $3.00 after 6:00PM >> >> City Hall Garage >> 200 E. Santa Clara Street @ 6th Street >> Cost: $0.75 every 20 minutes, $15 max >> More City Hall info at http://rs6.net/tn.jsp? >> et=1102898514970&s=2382&e=0011Hk1T963leM4uZkW- >> CGez5DCBzRNiTjp28ndPxH2d7315KdKhOfKiwtsGL0Di5r5eKOuT7_inFUs2Z2jE8RB2x >> XzUsk4EX6_4RKjNOGz5Bocu4NceEVtClpOfz_GTeJHc0xjjQccwhLjFt1FzcgnKLzoSBR >> 8GQdwMToc8dnnsUk= >> >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sat Jan 2 13:51:54 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:51:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Native Garden Foundation Newsletter Message-ID: <20100102215154.393BE6A958@truffula.sj.ca.us> We tried Drupal + CiviCRM last year. It was much more work to set up than building something simple from scratch would have been. Its performance was poor. And once it was in place, our volunteers (excepting Jim Doyle) refused to use it. I'll try something else this year. The same volunteers will refuse to use it, but now we know that part so it will be okay. -Cameron >X-Original-To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >In-Reply-To: <479726.46334.qm at web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >References: <1102898514970.1101779955854.2382.3.90030552 at scheduler> > > <479726.46334.qm at web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From: Andrea Dorey >Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:11:00 -0800 >To: Caroline Yacoub >Cc: Green South Bay Discussion >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: California Native Garden Foundation > Newsletter >Caroline, >I would like to see some lists that categorize Greens by district and/ >or city so we can use them in situations like this. (I guess that's >what you mean about getting drupal.) Wes is quite right about us >getting more efficient in this manner, so we can target the affected >voters. >Andrea >On Jan 2, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> Isn't this the time for drupal? Somebody ought to be able to >> communicate with all San Jose Greens--now. No? >> Caroline From tnharter at aceweb.com Sat Jan 2 20:59:36 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:59:36 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?=5BArticle_by_Dan_Hamburg=3A?= =?windows-1252?q?=5D_Obama=92s_first_year=3A_leading_an_empire_in_decline?= Message-ID: <4B402438.3070706@aceweb.com> http://www.greenchange.org/article.php?id=5445 -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Happy Blue Moon New Year! From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Jan 4 08:41:51 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:41:51 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Why Democrats Are Trying to Commit Electoral Suicide" Message-ID: <4B421A4F.5070105@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry "Forty-five percent of the Democratic base now says they aren't going to vote in 2010 or are thinking of not voting. This is a direct result of Democrats in Congress and the Presidency doing things the base disagrees with or not doing things the base wants to see done. It appears politically stupid to act as they have, and yet, they did. So why? Elected Democrats at the Federal level are members of the national elite. If they weren't a member when they were elected, they are quickly brought into the fold." http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/04-10 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Jan 4 10:30:17 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:30:17 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Investigating Wall Street? Message-ID: <4B4233B9.7050502@earthlink.net> I almost missed this one, because the title meant nothing to me. But it is partly about a new commission created to investigate Wall Street, and partly about an old commission that investigated Wall Street back in the 30s. "Searching for Pecora" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/04-12 "Almost two years after the Wall Street meltdown collapsed the economy and threw 8 million Americans out of work, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission gets underway January 13th in Washington, D.C." The chair of the new commission is Phil Angelides. Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Mon Jan 4 23:49:03 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 23:49:03 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for County Meeting Agenda Items Message-ID: The Green Party is poised to scoop up millions of disaffected Dems. Or not. Your choice. The County meeting is Wed. 1/6 at the San Jose Peace Center on 7th near San Fernando. Please send me agenda items. B _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Jan 5 11:11:01 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:11:01 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Book Review] Banana by Dan Koeppel Message-ID: <4B438EC5.8060802@aceweb.com> Banana is a well researched book about the history of humanity's fourth most widely eaten food (after wheat, rice, and corn). The story goes back more than 7,000 years, when bananas became the first agricultural crop. Every chapter has lots of startling information, ranging from how this fruit that has no seeds reproduces to how something with a short shelf life gets from tropical fields to local store and is widely eaten for often less than a buck a pound. There are many surprises on the pages. One is that the vast majority of the bananas sold in the USA are genetically identical. This is mostly because the plant is reproduced by digging up roots with a "corm" segment and planting them elsewhere, something like growing from a cutting. Because of this every banana plant is vulnerable to the same diseases, meaning that a serious banana plague would change a lot of peoples eating habits. There is also a lot of history in the book. Early on the banana spread around the Pacific because Polynesian sailors would carry corms with them and plant them when they found land. Koeppel argues that the fruit Eve gave Adam was likely a banana. Apples didn't grow in the area. More recently Banana Republics were founded and exploited by fruit companies because of the huge demand they were able to develop for the fruit. There are such tidbits as the Columbia banana massacre of 1929 in which thousands of striking workers were killed was first widely learned about from Gabriel Garcia Marquez's novel, One Hundred Years of Solitude. There is also discussion of how bananas work differently in different parts of the world. Places where bananas are grown and eaten locally, they are a big part of most peoples diets. In tropical Africa most homes have banana plants, and there are thousands of varieties. In India it's more of a farmed crop, but there are also lots of different varieties grown and used. It's only in the north that they are imported from banana republics which grow them on huge monocultured plantations. The author argues that the best thing we can do to improve the working conditions there is to only buy fair trade bananas. He salutes Switzerland where almost half of the bananas eaten are fair trade bananas for being the most progressive country on the planet in this respect. A large part of the book is devoted to the problem of plant diseases that can kill an entire plantation if it can kill one plant and spread from there. The author lists three or four dangerous banana diseases that the plantations are battling with chemical warfare. There are people working to breed new varieties of banana, but the odds are comically stacked against the effort by the no seeds problem. There are also people working to develop new banana breeds by genetic engineering methods. They seem to be having some success, but have not yet come up with a replacement for the yellow banana all Americans see over and over. I'm left with this feeling that the entire banana section of the supermarket could disappear if we aren't lucky or the growers do the wrong thing. I enjoyed reading this book. My biggest complaint is that I wish he'd attacked the problem of monoculture by looking for ways to diversify the banana crop instead of looking for a new perfect banana. Maybe that's because without those tremendous economies of scale the party's over and the author realizes that. Anyhow, having read it I feel like I know a lot more about this fruit. If you want to read my copy, let me know. First responder gets it! -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Happy Blue Moon New Year! From wrolley at charter.net Tue Jan 5 11:13:52 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:13:52 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for County Meeting Agenda Items In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B438F70.2080109@charter.net> Brian Good wrote: > > The Green Party is poised to scoop up millions of disaffected Dems. > > Or not. Your choice. > > The County meeting is Wed. 1/6 at the San Jose Peace Center on 7th > near San Fernando. > > Please send me agenda items. Three suggestions: Unfortunately focusing on statewide issues. - planning for plenary.. getting volunteers in line, making sure everything runs smoothly. - what are we doing to build on the attraction of statewide campaigns so that we can reach out to and attract more Greens for the county? Database, mailings, organization. Cameron is our repository of technical and practical knowledge on what it takes to make something work for the long haul. - organizing a local media component supporting campaigns. Statewide media campaigns will reach the major media outlets, at least with releases. However, we need to have local presence, everywhere from Letters to the Editor of the MurkyNews to the Cupertino Courier or the Sunnyvale Sun. Getting into the smaller papers is generally easy and has more of an outreach than you might think. It just take organized effort. Wes -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From andid at cagreens.org Tue Jan 5 15:40:00 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:40:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for County Meeting Agenda Items In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <334AEAC9-D2F7-43CC-B1FC-AE4F1BABE06C@cagreens.org> This is our regular General meeting of the SCC Green Party. Come at 6:30 if you want to eat and chat, or at 7:30 for the formal meeting. Hope to see you all there! Andrea On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Brian Good wrote: > > The Green Party is poised to scoop up millions of disaffected Dems. > > Or not. Your choice. > > The County meeting is Wed. 1/6 at the San Jose Peace Center on 7th > near San Fernando. > > Please send me agenda items. > > B > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Jan 5 15:57:09 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:57:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [CAclean] Red Alert: Sunnyvale City Council, Tuesday Jan 5 -- 7 pm In-Reply-To: <4B3BB632.5050601@earthlink.net> References: <4B3BB632.5050601@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Reminder -- Sunnyvale City Council will hear public comment tonight on their apparent intention to drop discussion of public campaign finance. The City Council Chambers are just west of Mathilda, 2 blocks north of El Camino. 456 W. Olive. > Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:21:06 -0800 > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: [CAclean] Red Alert: Sunnyvale City Council, Tuesday Jan 5 > > > FYI, > > Gerry > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > >> From: Nancy Neff > > >> > >> Date: December 29, 2009 8:58:38 PM PST > >> > >> To: paloalto at caclean.org > >> , sanmateo at caclean.org > >> > >> > >> Subject: [CAclean] Red Alert: Sunnyvale City Council, Tuesday Jan 5 > >> > >> Reply-To: nancy at neffs.net > >> > >> > >> Please forward this message from Craig to anyone you know in Sunnyvale: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I just got word today from Sunnyvale City Councilmember Chris Moylan > >> that the Council staff is going to recommend terminating any further > >> discussion of public financing of campaigns. Next Tuesday, January 5 is > >> the only night they're going to hear public comment. > >> > >> We need all hands on deck to show the Council we're serious about > >> wanting to implement public financing and that they should at a minimum > >> continue to study the issue. Please pass the word and get everyone you > >> can...especially Sunnyvale residents...to attend this meeting: > >> > >> Tuesday, Jan 5 > >> 7:00pm > >> Sunnyvale City Council Chambers > >> 456 W. Olive Street > >> Sunnyvale, CA 94088 > >> > >> Please let me know you're coming. > >> > >> Craig Dunkerley > > >> California Clean Money Campaign > >> South Bay Coordinator > >> 408-453-3865 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Paloalto at CAclean.org mailing list > >> To remove yourself or change your options: > >> http://lists.caclean.org/mailman/listinfo/paloalto > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Tue Jan 5 16:01:37 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:01:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for County Meeting Agenda Items Message-ID: <20100106000137.477016A94D@truffula.sj.ca.us> >Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:13:52 -0800 >From: Wes Rolley >User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) >To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >References: >Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for County Meeting Agenda Items >Brian Good wrote: >> The County meeting is Wed. 1/6 at the San Jose Peace Center on 7th >> near San Fernando. >> Please send me agenda items. >- what are we doing to build on the attraction of statewide campaigns so >that we can reach out to and attract more Greens for the county? >Database, mailings, organization. Cameron is our repository of technical >and practical knowledge on what it takes to make something work for the >long haul. We've already surveyed "off the shelf" software and tried the most popular. Campaigns with money have been outsourcing their IT work since before everybody else did that. GP-US uses a company whose name sounds like "Democrats Inaction" whose major customers are all Dem Party candidacies and Beltway non-profits. Greens in San Francisco and Atlanta offer consulting and hosted applications, but not for free. I lashed up a very simple application for Warner's campaign a few years ago. As long as you keep the requirements bare-bones simple, it's no more difficult than setting up and learning how to use the off the shelf stuff. (I used Postgresql and plain old Perl CGI, far more efficient than Drupal.) And you end up with something maintainable. I'll do it again this year if local or county candidates want to use it. I'll need a current snapshot from the Registrar to seed it. that takes a request on letterhead from our county Party's council. -Cameron From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Jan 5 23:19:21 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 23:19:21 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for 1-6 GPSCC Meeting Message-ID: San Jose Peace Center, 48 S. 7th Street, San Jose (near 7th and San Fernando) 6:30--eat and chat 7:30--meeting begins Selection of Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher, select Agenda Preparer for next meeting Introductions and Announcements Craig Dunkerley, California Clean Money Campaign South Bay Coordinator Report on Sunnyvale City Council meeting on public finance in Sunnyvale Treasurer's report Finding candidates for County Council Planned upcoming tabling events Planned upcoming Food for Thought events World Water Day--March 22 GP 20-Year Extrannavervagansary in Berkeley Status report from food committee of state-wide party meeting Status report from planning committee for state-wide meeting Building on statewide campaigns to benefit GPSCC outreach ---databases, mailings, organization Organizing local media outreach--LTTE, press releases Global Warming--is GPSCC interested? Joint Green/Libertarian op-ed piece on IRV and top-two primaries Report from Downtown Hospital Organizers Report on Gaza Freedom March Updating literature ### _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Wed Jan 6 08:14:06 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:14:06 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] What do Santa Clara and Brooklyn have in common? Message-ID: <4B44B6CE.2030406@charter.net> http://www.nolandgrab.org/archives/2010/01/doing_damage_by.html Doing Damage by Doing What Isn't Needed /The Cleveland Leader/ Columnist and watchdog Roldo Bartimole uses Bruce Ratner's subsidy-soaked Atlantic Yards megaproject as the mascot for one of the major things that has been ailing Cleveland: Forest City Enterprises Al Ratner once bragged to me about how many federal subsidies he has been able to get for projects all over the U. S. This Brooklyn project is soaked in subsidies, not unusual for these unnecessary projects. This one, as others, includes a new arena for a Ratner family professional sports team. *Isn?t it wonderful that all over the nation we are spending billions of dollars to provide work places for multi-millionaire owners and millionaire sports players while so many ordinary people have no access to a paying job?* article /NoLandGrab: To Bartimole's point, unnecessary projects like Atlantic Yards require massive public subsidies in order to make it off the drawing board./ /If Atlantic Yards, the densest and largest single-source private project in the history of NYC, were such a good idea, then the free marketplace could support it. It's not, so Bruce Ratner has to get the City, State and Federal governments to chip in with direct cash subsidies, eminent domain and tax breaks./ Posted by lumi at January 6, 2010 7:13 AM -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From andid at cagreens.org Wed Jan 6 09:53:26 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:53:26 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Are you willing to make a last ditch stand on Health Care Reform/ In-Reply-To: <003701ca8ef3$83a50e70$c600a8c0@user943cqp2f0q> References: <003701ca8ef3$83a50e70$c600a8c0@user943cqp2f0q> Message-ID: <210625C3-8B99-4F36-A5B8-B84D777A27C3@cagreens.org> On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Mary E Ayers wrote: > We have been lied to over and again in our attempts to get a debate > and a vote on Medicare for All. > No kidding! But no surprise. As a three-time Nader voter and Green Party member, I expected the dirty tricks to follow the dirty money, having been warned by Nader. When will we begin to OUT world-wide the delighted recipients of bribes (i.e., campaign contributions) to powerful legislators who vote on issues CRITICAL to the people of this nation? WHEN??? Andrea -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Wed Jan 6 09:58:46 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:58:46 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Proposed Agenda for 1-6 GPSCC Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47C7D12C-83E3-4D72-A79D-D77FB4409EEA@cagreens.org> On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Brian Good wrote: > GP 20-Year Extrannavervagansary in Berkeley Good grief!! Nice agenda, Brian. However, I have a stealth issue I'd like to get consensus on?2 minutes max? Andrea -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Wed Jan 6 15:31:55 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:31:55 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Flashpoints Crisis at KPFA! URGENT! Message-ID: Notification from Elected Pacifica Board Member Akio Tanaka: FLASHPOINTS TEETERING ON THE BRINK: A PLEA FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT KPFA management is hell-bent on destroying Flashpoints. They terminated the Knight report, cut Nora's hours in half, and wiped out our tech director position all together, in less than week. (Flashpoints has lost 50% of its budget under current management. Please! compare this to the Morning show and the KPFA news!! under the same management.) Meanwhile, the expanded budgets of the Morning show and the KPFA news, remain largely in tact, and management has created a new show, Letters to Washington, that features one of their strongest supporters, Mitch Jesserich. Jesserich, along with several other pro-management members of the KPFA's ruling cabal, verbally attacked Nora at a recent union meeting to tell her that Flashpoints is the most unpopular show in drive time. MJ?s kind words came right after the Flashpoints teams were given Lifetime Achievement Awards by Project Censored and the Media Freedom Foundation, and right before Nora, and I, and Flashpoints, were chosen by Pulse Media?s to be honored and listed among the 20 Top Global Media Figures of 2009: http://pulsemedia.org/2009/12/31/pulse-20-top-global-media-figures- of-2009 One of the verbal attackers, Sasha Lilley had just moved back into the union, after three years of working hand and hand with the current GM, censoring, preempting and disrupting Flashpoints, as Interim Program Director. She was the KPFA/CWA shop steward, before she took the IPD position, and now she's happily back in the union, verbally attacking Nora with her union cap back in place. Lilley attempted to give Nora a tongue-lashing because Nora enlisted the support of Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn, Chris Hedges and many others, who have now singed onto a petition to not allow KPFA to use their voice or their great works to raise money until the program is restored to some semblance of working order. The third tongue-lasher, who went after Nora, was Aileen Alfindary, co-director of the greatly expanded KPFA evening news. According to a copy of the official 2005/2006 budget, In the first year under current manager, Lemlem Rijio(gm at kpfa.org) the News budget received a $51,000 increase, while Flashpoints took ten thousand dollars in cuts. KPFA news now has 220 staff hours on the books, compared to Flashpoints 80 staff hours. The KPFA news has not been cut. Fast forward to last night, when management failed to even supply a Board-Operator for a complicated drive time show the show like Flashpoints. So Nora, who came to work sick, because Flashpoints, unlike the KPFA news, does not have sick- day fill-in, was expected to run the board and make all the calls, plus cover Palestine. Guess what? Palestine was neglected last night!! Due to severe and greatly disproportionate cutbacks, Flashpoints is teetering on the brink. What happens next month when Nora(with a nine year old child) plans to put her life on the line again to report from Palestine. ( I assure you Nora's trip will not be funded by management, the way it RECENTLY Funded(even as Nora was being cut in two, the FP tec position wiped out, and Robert Knight Terminated)its strongest supporter in the news department, Brian Edward Tierket's trip to the Global Climate summit. BET once referred to us as "enemies" who need to be made to pay for our politics, in a now infamous letter sent to Lemlem Rijio, Sasha Lilley, and others.) No, as usual, Nora will be forced to take a vacation in order to go and report on one of the most dangerous and important stories of our time, the lynch-pin for peace in the world. This time, however, based on the severe cutbacks, when Nora leaves for Palestine, the program will not be able to continue. So either she gives up the story or we give up the show: Not a pretty picture!! Management knows this, and is hovering to put the final screws to Flashpoints. It has been made abundantly clear to the Flashpoints team, through word and deed, that we are not welcome at KPFA under current management, and they want to get rid of us. They despise our politics and our bold radical message. Please, do not stand idly by and let them finish the job. Stand up for Flashpoints Now. If you have technical skills, as in editing on sound forge, or can think of any other way to support us in our battle to restore Flashpoints and keep the show going, please e-mail me at dbernstein at igc.org Dennis Bernstein, Executive Producer, Flashpoints On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, wrote: KPFA IAGM Amelia Gonzales(iagm at kpfa.org), former CWA shop steward, now interim assistant manager of KPFA . On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 4:45 PM, wrote: Hi Amelia, We have just spoken. Nora confirmed with me that you told her there is no board op scheduled for 5:00 today. I appreciate your last minute offer to board-op, but we can't work catch as catch can with a complicated live show, with as many as 12 add fifteen guest some time. At the very least we need a tec producer to be with us three hours a day from three to six. I am now informing you, and GM Lemlem Rijio, that the deep and disproportionate cuts current management has made to the Flashpoints show, along with a general refusal to even supply the show with a part time tech producer/board op, have effectively crippled it: To be clear, Management's cutting of three postions in a single week from the show, just before christmas, has made it impossible to do the work necessary. It is very clear, that the Flashpoints show is unwelcome at KPFA by the current management. And after sveral overt acts of censorship, and five years of intimidation and other hurtful tactics to hobble the show, management is using the budget it busted as an excuse to cripple the Flashpoints show. Consider this an open letter to the concerned Pacifica Community from around the world that deeply cares what happens to this show. I hope management will immediately consider at least amending its cuts to help us fufill the bare mimium need of the Flashpoints show. Dennis Bernstein :::: P U L S E "Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one." PULSE: 20 Top Global Media Figures of 2009 with 5 comments After we published our list of 20 Top Global Thinkers, we thought we would be remiss if we did not also honor those media figures and institutions who bring these voices to us in the first place. With the goal of recognizing those individuals and institutions responsible for exemplary reportage and awareness-raising in 2009, we asked our editors and writers to name their choices for the top 20 media figures, be they journalists, publications or publishers. We aggregated these nominations into the following list. Like our 20 Top Global Thinkers, our criteria for choosing media figures included people/publications/publishers who have shown a commitment to challenging power, holding it accountable, highlighting issues pertaining to peace and social justice and producing output that encourages critical thinking and questions conventional wisdom. Nora Barrows-Friedman / Dennis Bernstein (Flashpoints) Run by executive producer Dennis Bernstein and senior producer Nora Barrows-Friedman, the award-winning Flashpoints radio is an indispensable daily source for hard-hitting and incisive investigative and public affairs commentary. Bernstein and Barrows- Friedman (a recent recipient of a Lifetime Achievement Media Freedom Award from Media Freedom Foundation/Project Censored) continue to tackle those issues which even some progressive media outlets shy away from, with a particular emphasis on Israel/Palestine, and on- location reporting from various international hotspots. 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Spitzer wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:13:52 -0800 >> From: Wes Rolley >> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) >> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> References: >> Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for County Meeting Agenda Items > >> Brian Good wrote: >>> The County meeting is Wed. 1/6 at the San Jose Peace Center on 7th >>> near San Fernando. >>> Please send me agenda items. > >> - what are we doing to build on the attraction of statewide >> campaigns so >> that we can reach out to and attract more Greens for the county? >> Database, mailings, organization. Cameron is our repository of >> technical >> and practical knowledge on what it takes to make something work >> for the >> long haul. > > We've already surveyed "off the shelf" software and tried the > most popular. Campaigns with money have been outsourcing their > IT work since before everybody else did that. GP-US uses > a company whose name sounds like "Democrats Inaction" whose > major customers are all Dem Party candidacies and > Beltway non-profits. Greens in San Francisco and Atlanta > offer consulting and hosted applications, but not for free. > > I lashed up a very simple application for Warner's campaign > a few years ago. As long as you keep the requirements > bare-bones simple, it's no more difficult than setting up > and learning how to use the off the shelf stuff. > (I used Postgresql and plain old Perl CGI, far more efficient > than Drupal.) > And you end up with something maintainable. > I'll do it again this year if local or county candidates > want to use it. I'll need a current snapshot from the > Registrar to seed it. that takes a request on letterhead > from our county Party's council. > > -Cameron > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Jan 8 09:43:57 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:43:57 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Rethink Afghanistan screening Sat. in Fremont Message-ID: TriCityPerspectives.org is showing Robert Greenwald's 2009 film at 1:30 on Saturday January 9 at the Fremont Public Library. If you've seen some of Greenwald's other documentaries such as Iraq for Sale, Wal-Mart: the High Cost of Low Price, and Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism, that's probably all the recommendation you need to see this one. Normally these films attract about 75 people and the discussion following is usually lively and intelligent. Discussion Saturday will be led by Paul Cox of Veterans for Peace. The Fremont Public Library is at 2400 Stevenson Blvd (at Paseo Padre). The Stevenson exit on 880 is about 4 miles south of Dumbarton Bridge. Turn toward the hills on Stevenson for about 3 miles to Paseo. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Jan 8 09:53:33 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:53:33 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is Tesla Nuts? Press Conference in Menlo Park Saturday Jan. 9 Message-ID: Sponsored by California Coalition For Workers Memorial Day /Raging Grannies Action League. Workers and environmentalists are asking why Tesla is planning to build a "green" electric auto plant on a toxic dump site, in Downey, California where hundreds of workers (notably at Downey Studios) have been sickened. Event takes place at 11:30 at the Tesla showroom at 300 El Camino (across from The Oasis). http://www.workersmemorialday.org/documents/Tesla1-9-10.htm http://www.alternet.org/politics/144675/will_our_%27green_jobs%27_dollars_help_a_ritzy_car_company_open_a_toxic_manufacturing_plant?page=entire _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Sat Jan 9 11:32:42 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:32:42 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] OFF TOPIC-SJMNews-Front Page-Sunset Elec Handy Books Recall!! Message-ID: <9DAEF8FF-85B4-473F-9F14-AFFF2C0F960A@cagreens.org> For our handypersons: note that recall of home wiring books goes back to 1975. Possible dangers of electric shock and fire. Get rebates on recalled titles?nine are listed in call-out box. Andrea From andid at cagreens.org Sat Jan 9 12:05:48 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:05:48 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is Tesla Nuts? Press Conference in Menlo Park Saturday Jan. 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8F1ABF8C-C6CF-40BB-9B05-9B075B6BE37F@cagreens.org> Why is it that we Greens always seem to end up on the wrong side of good projects? I don't get this latest furor. Tesla is using the Roadster to finance the electrical system they will use for not only the mid-size electric car for the public, but also a low-end electric car for the rest of us. Telsla did a great run around Detroit's stranglehold on electric car production and even got money out of Obama for their EVs. And BTW these cars are driving around all over the Bay Area, proving that a decent electric car CAN be built despite the mythology put out there by the guys making carloads of dough on the ICEs polluting our air, water, oceans, ad infinitum. What the h*ll has Detroit (gag) or for that matter Toyota and Honda done for the electric car? I mean AFTER they crushed and buried in the desert the EVs they were FORCED to produce by CA emissions regulations?which they were able to trash by federal mandate immediately afterwards? Then there's the high speed rail ruckus and the BART extension objections and the free parking objections! Ya' like walking or riding your bikes in high levels of pollution rather than letting the elderly and the poor and the working stiffs get a break with lower fees and improved infrastructure? Oh, and wasn't there a resistance to a state/federal plan of solar panels for public works because you all thought it should be done by individuals? Or do I have that one wrong too? I'll bet you guys would have fought against WPA because it was a "waste" of federal tax money! Sometimes good things get done by ratty rich people and not so great methods. Like I say, I don't get this. Are we Greens or Libertarians? Andrea On Jan 8, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Brian Good wrote: > > Sponsored by California Coalition For Workers Memorial Day /Raging > Grannies Action League. > > Workers and environmentalists are asking why Tesla is planning to > build a "green" electric auto plant on a toxic dump site, in > Downey, California where hundreds of workers (notably at Downey > Studios) have been sickened. > > Event takes place at 11:30 at the Tesla showroom at 300 El Camino > (across from The Oasis). > > > http://www.workersmemorialday.org/documents/Tesla1-9-10.htm > > http://www.alternet.org/politics/144675/will_our_%27green_jobs% > 27_dollars_help_a_ritzy_car_company_open_a_toxic_manufacturing_plant?p > age=entire > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. 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Renowned election fraud investigator and data analyst Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D., best known for his investigation of Ohio's 2004 presidential election results, has now called into question yet another high-profile election. The culminating report is hosted at WasProp8Straight.org. > >Data was collected through exit polls in 19 Los Angeles County precincts on Election Day, 2008. Voters leaving the polls were asked to fill out a simplified paper ballot anonymously and deposit it into a locked box; 6,326 voters did so, a sample larger than that for the entire state of California in the exit poll used by news outlets around the country to predict election outcomes. > >"This poll was designed not to predict outcomes but expressly to check the accuracy of the official vote counts by comparing those results with the polling results at selected sites," explained Sally Castleman, co-founder of EDA, who led the project. > >"Unfortunately, in light of the well-established dangers of using computers to tabulate our votes, it becomes critically important to validate the official results. Exit polling, though inexact, is one of the few ways left to us to attempt that validation," added Jonathan Simon, another EDA co-founder. > >The study reveals discrepancies between official results and exit poll results as high as 17.7%, with an average "within precinct disparity" of 7.75%, far outside the poll's margin of error. The study indicates that the vote against Proposition 8 -- and in favor of marriage equality -- may have been vastly underreported in L.A. County. > >"There is no reason to assume the statewide results to be more accurate," said Judith Alter, whose group Protect California Ballots, carried out the polling in LA County, "given that the election systems used throughout the state are no less vulnerable to manipulation." > >Phillips's analysis addresses four reasons the vote counts and the exit polling results could be mismatched: a basic flaw in exit poll methodology; many voters lying on the questionnaire; a non-representative sample of voters responding; or the official results being erroneous or fraudulent. He then thoroughly addresses the first three, leaving only erroneous or fraudulent results to account for the remaining outcome-altering discrepancy. > >Election integrity advocates are calling for an investigation by the Secretary of State's office. The public can write letters of support and read the exit poll analysis at www.WasProp8Straight.org . > >If the investigation bears out the findings of this study, California's -- indeed the nation's -- marriage to electronic voting technology may be on the skids. > >### > > > > >-- >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >* Larry Gross >* Professor and Director >* School of Communication >* Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism >* University of Southern California >* 3502 Watt Way >* Los Angeles, CA 90089-0281 >* [213] 740-3770? / FAX [213] 740-3913 >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > >------ End of Forwarded Message -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Her primary industry sector for contribs is communications/electronics, 24%. Interestingly, of her top ten zip codes for campaign contributions, 8 of them are not in her district. _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wb4d23 at aol.com Tue Jan 12 17:51:04 2010 From: wb4d23 at aol.com (wb4d23 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:51:04 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Statewide Candidate Petitions Needing Signatures Message-ID: <822d.7c80e462.387e8108@aol.com> Folks: I have copies of petitions for signatures in-lieu of filing fee for GPCA candidates for statewide office (except Deacon Alexander) received from Greg Jan. I will bring those to our February 3rd meeting. 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Some of you may also remember that in my November, 2002 Green Party campaign, I achieved the most votes and the highest percentage ever recorded for any statewide partisan California Green Party candidate. Much change has taken place across our state, and beyond, since those two previous times when I was your candidate for State Controller. In particular, we are now in the midst of the worse financial crisis since the Great Depression that started over 80 years ago. One result of these current economic troubles is that support for the two "status quo" political parties has now fallen to a very low level. Now, more than ever before, voters are open to ideas coming from outside of those two political parties which have presided over our state and nation during the past several years, as the present economic crisis has unfolded. Therefore, we Greens now have an unprecedented opportunity this coming year to help build our party, to communicate our ideas, and to influence the political, economic, and overall direction of society towards a more just, sustainable, and Greener world. Now is the time for Greens to act! Based on my two previous runs for statewide office, I was asked late last year by Greens from across the state to this year run for Governor of California. I am quite honored to have received this invitation, and today, Tuesday, January 12, I have decided to formally declare my candidacy for the office of Governor, with my official announcement taking place today at the State Capitol in Sacramento. I sincerely believe that the Green Party now has bigger opportunities than we've had since our party was first founded in the early 1990's. Therefore, I hope that you will seriously consider supporting our work, as soon as you possibly can. I believe that if my campaign for Governor is able to make a strong start over the next few months, then the possibilities for the rest of this year could well be essentially limitless! If you would like more information, or to support my campaign, please see my website at: www.laurawells.org , or you can contact me at info at laurawells.org, or (510) 225-4005, or Laura Wells for Governor, P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610. Our state, our nation, and our planet are in crisis. Given the unprecedented political opportunities which we Greens now have, how can we not act on those opportunities? How can we not act, to now put forward real solutions that the two status-quo parties dare not mention, for fear of losing their fat-cat corporate sponsors? Let us join together now in this rare, great moment of opportunity. I sincerely hope that we can keep in touch -- I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest possible convenience. For a Green California, and a Green planet, Laura Wells Candidate for Governor Green Party of California P.O. Box 10727 Oakland, CA 94610 United States Paid for by Laura Wells for Governor, FPPC # pending From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Jan 13 11:01:31 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:01:31 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] Jane Rands 72nd Assembly District vote] Message-ID: <4B4E188B.6060800@aceweb.com> Registration and Turnout Completed Precincts: 197 of 197 Reg/Turnout Percentage Total Registered Voters 218,963 Precinct Registration 218,963 Precinct Ballots Cast 6,155 2.8% Early Ballots Cast 0 0.0% Vote-by-Mail Ballots Cast 26,301 12.0% Total Ballots Cast 32,456 14.8% Top MEMBER OF THE STATE ASSEMBLY 72nd District Completed Precincts: 197 of 197 Vote Count Percentage CHRIS NORBY (REP) 20,292 62.9% JOHN MACMURRAY (DEM) 10,018 31.0% JANE RANDS (GRN) 1,963 6.1% Source: http://www.ocvote.com/live/72ndgen/results.htm Probably the totals will go up a bit over time, but I doubt the percentages will change much. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Northern Mariana Islands quarter and Banana review. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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Click here for details: http://www.cagreens.org/action/Anniversary.2010.php CCWG home web page: www.cagreens.org/ccwg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And, here is candidate filing deadline information compliments of Warner Bloomberg: (All of the following information is available using the Secretary of State website www.ss.ca.gov via the candidate information links) In order to be eligible for access to the GPCA Primary Election ballot, a candidate for partisan office must have either been registered in the GPCA for one year before the candidate filing deadline for nomination, OR have been registered decline to state. All candidates must be registered in the GPCA at least 90 days before the filing date. The last date for filing nomination papers is March 12, 2010, so a prospective candidate either must have been a GPCA member on March 12, 2009 (and still be so registered) OR a dts registered voter must have re-registered GPCA by December 12^th . The date to declare candidacy and take out papers for signatures in lieu of having to pay thousands of dollars in filing fees begins January 1st (effectively January 4th) with a February 15th filing deadline. HOWEVER, after an initial review, candidates are given until March 12th to collect additional signatures for the same number that have been ruled unacceptable by the Registrar of Voters. The maximum needed signatures is 150; it may be less for some state assembly or state senate districts. Signatures gathered to substitute for or reduce the filing fee can be used as nomination signatures. Thank you, Kendra Gonzales CCWG Coordinator Ventura County (805) 419-4623 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jan 15 09:53:49 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:53:49 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] More Common Dream Articles Message-ID: <4B50ABAD.4010400@earthlink.net> From Christopher Hayes, via "The Nation" magazine, about serious governmental failure, "corporatism" (an idea which appeals to the left and right), "The Iron Law of Oligarchy" (how any organization develops a bureaucracy which is a kind of oligarchy), and the Sisyphean task of democratic socialists, (and more?): "System Failure" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/15 I think this has serious implications for the future of climate change mitigation: "UN Should Be Sidelined in Future Climate Talks, Says Obama Official" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/14-9 I think for this item from Paul Krugman the title is sufficient: "Bankers Without a Clue" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/15-3 and more at http://www.commondreams.org/ Gerry From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Jan 15 11:41:51 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:41:51 +0000 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Confessions of an Alien Hunter Message-ID: <4B50C4FF.8020508@aceweb.com> >> >> >> *Confessions of an Alien Hunter >> Dr. Seth Shostak* >> >> >> Seth Shostak is Senior Astronomer at the SETI Institute in Mountain >> View and heads up the International Academy of Astronautics? SETI >> Permanent Study Group. Seth is involved with the Institute's SETI >> research and is responsible for much of the outreach activities of >> the Institute, including making science and astrobiology interesting >> to young people. He has co-authored a college textbook on >> astrobiology, continues to write trade books on SETI and is the >> editor of/ Explorer/. In addition, he has published nearly 300 >> popular articles on science, gives many dozens of talks annually, and >> is the host of the SETI Institute?s weekly science radio show, >> / Are We Alone?/ >> >> Seth will discuss his latest book,/ Confessions of an Alien Hunter: A >> Scientist?s Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence/ (National >> Geographic Books), an entertaining and expert account of the facts, >> fantasies, and future of finding intelligence elsewhere in the >> universe, and how real science differs from the Hollywood view of >> extraterrestrial life. >> > Seth began by asking how many of us thought there was life on other planets. Maybe half of us put up our hands. Then he asked how many of us expected to connect with life on other planets. Seemed like no hands stayed up. Seth explained that his work is all about finding that needle in a haystack, an analogy for the intelligent signal in the noise from other natural static of the universe. The search for extraterrestrial intelligence began back in the 1877, when an Italian astronomer saw lines on Mars through a telescope and started telling people they were canals, partly to generate interest in what's up there. Since then better telescopes and a deeper understanding of the way things work have proven that there is no life on Mars, but the search for extraterrestrial intelligence continues. Right now the largest radio telescope on the planet is in Puerto Rico. It's big enough to hold 4,000,000 scoops of ice cream. Signals from its dish are scanned constantly looking for information from other life forms out there. There are billions of stars in the Milky Way, and of those we have been able to examine about 750 to see if they have planets around them. Right now we are aware of about 30 planets orbiting stars other than our own. An orbiting telescope named after Kepler is planned for later this decade, and it is specifically designed to look for planets. After a few years of this surveying we expect to have some idea of the percentage of stars that have planets around them out there. Another way to look for life on other planets is to consider what life on earth says to us about the possibilities. For example, it is known that life on this planet has been around for about 3.5 billion of the 4 billion years since the planet has cooled enough to support it. Life that flourishes under extreme conditions is referred to as extremeaphiles. Arctic penguins are a mild example of the genre. It could be that looking at them will tell us something about what is possible out there, but since Seth is an astronomer he hasn't pursued that area much. The area that is most easy to look for results in is radio astronomy, so there are lots of projects in this area. One that Seth is excited about is the antenna array in Hat Creek, California. You get there by going north on 5 to Redding and then heading east for an hour or so. The array is in a valley that is well shielded by mountains from most radio noise, and the current antenna array of 42 dishes will get more sensitive every time it is expanded. They would like to expand it to 300 dishes, but they need donor support to make that possible. If you want to pay for a whole antenna dish they will put your name on it. Seth invited us to go up their and look around if we are interested. During Q&A a lot of other topics came up: Back in '97 they thought for a little while that they had detected a signal. Seth and his coworkers were up all night looking at it, and the New York Times was already calling for more information at 10 AM the next day. It wasn't for another few hours that they decided it was a false alarm. That is as close as they have come to detecting extraterrestrial life at this point in time. Seth thinks a real ET signal would take about two weeks to verify. There were copies of the book available for purchase at the end. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Northern Mariana Islands quarter and Banana review. From jgshurt69 at aol.com Thu Jan 14 18:18:16 2010 From: jgshurt69 at aol.com (jgshurt69 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:18:16 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Wanna Help Out in Port-Au-Prince? ... https://msf.donorportal.ca/MSFEN/H Message-ID: <16694.746d9034.38812a68@aol.com> _https://msf.donorportal.ca/MSFEN/Handlers/ShowPDF.ashx?DonationId=ydqD7bKDI rM4BAjOD3MCjw%3d%3d&Culture=z1gj0DngKvI%3d_ (https://msf.donorportal.ca/MSFEN/Handlers/ShowPDF.ashx?DonationId=ydqD7bKDIrM4BAjOD3MCjw==&Culture=z1gj0Dng KvI=) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sat Jan 16 09:25:40 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:25:40 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. Message-ID: <4B51F694.4020804@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sat Jan 16 10:53:53 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:53:53 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. In-Reply-To: <4B51F694.4020804@charter.net> References: <4B51F694.4020804@charter.net> Message-ID: Most of the comments on the article are depressing. Somebody needs to refute the "Greens are spoilers" statement in the comments. B Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:25:40 -0800 From: wrolley at charter.net To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. Laura Wells and Main Stream Media. For far too long, I have heard Greens talk about being given short shrift by main stream media. It has become such a truism that most Greens don't even try. Let me show you something what can be done if you try. Laura Wells in the Sacramento Bee. It can be done. All you have to do is become the story. In Laura's case, part of that story is having been the top vote getter for any Green in a CA partisan race. That was as a candidate for Controller in 2002 when she out polled the top of the Green ticket, Peter Camejo. There is no secret to this. Mainstream Media is always looking for a story. So, give them one. If you like this about Laura, then go visit her web site, become a fan of Laura on facebook, follow her on twitter. More importantly, take some time to Feel the spirit. Bill Moyers had it right. We don't have the money to compete with a Meg Whitman or a Steve Poizner or a Jerry Brown with maybe $7 Mil in the bank. But now one works their ass off like a Green. We have to, but that is what is going to win elections and, who know, maybe make a heroine out of Laura. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sat Jan 16 11:13:15 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:15 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. In-Reply-To: References: <4B51F694.4020804@charter.net> Message-ID: <4B520FCB.7040904@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 16 11:39:29 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:39:29 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] santa clara valley water Message-ID: <4B5215F1.5060600@sbcglobal.net> A member of the board of directors of the Santa Clara Valley Water district wil be speaking on Monday February 1-st: *Santa Clara Valley Water Needs* *What:* The Cambrian Community Council hosts a presentation by Larry Wilson of the Santa Clara Valley Water District about Santa Clara Valley water needs, both now and in the future. *When:* February 1 at 7 p.m. *Where: *Cambrian School District, 4115 Jacksol Drive, San Jos? *More Information:* Call Vicki Alexander at 507-6050. From wrolley at charter.net Sat Jan 16 12:16:30 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:16:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. In-Reply-To: <4B521AAC.4020705@aceweb.com> References: <4B51F694.4020804@charter.net> <4B520FCB.7040904@charter.net> <4B521AAC.4020705@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4B521E9E.9050602@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eameece at sfo.com Sat Jan 16 12:49:07 2010 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:49:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Confessions of an Alien Hunter In-Reply-To: <4B50C4FF.8020508@aceweb.com> References: <4B50C4FF.8020508@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <05BAAC26C6EC4D52937345B512779870@eameecePC> Why don't those scientists investigate the aliens who are already here, instead of being blinded by their all-to-human 100-year old physics to the possibility that they are here, and to all the millions of reports that they are here? SETI is ridiculous. Even for them to think that ETs use radio communications, as if the aliens are all in this small window of time when they use or receive radio like we do; the SETI folks display an astonishing lack of perspective on life. But that's just what conventional science causes. Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tian Harter" To: "Post South SF Bay discus" Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Confessions of an Alien Hunter >> >> >> *Confessions of an Alien Hunter >> Dr. Seth Shostak* >> >> >> Seth Shostak is Senior Astronomer at the SETI Institute in Mountain >> View and heads up the International Academy of Astronautics? SETI >> Permanent Study Group. Seth is involved with the Institute's SETI >> research and is responsible for much of the outreach activities of >> the Institute, including making science and astrobiology interesting >> to young people. He has co-authored a college textbook on >> astrobiology, continues to write trade books on SETI and is the >> editor of/ Explorer/. In addition, he has published nearly 300 >> popular articles on science, gives many dozens of talks annually, and >> is the host of the SETI Institute?s weekly science radio show, >> / Are We Alone?/ >> >> Seth will discuss his latest book,/ Confessions of an Alien Hunter: A >> Scientist?s Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence/ (National >> Geographic Books), an entertaining and expert account of the facts, >> fantasies, and future of finding intelligence elsewhere in the >> universe, and how real science differs from the Hollywood view of >> extraterrestrial life. >> > Seth began by asking how many of us thought there was life on other planets. Maybe half of us put up our hands. Then he asked how many of us expected to connect with life on other planets. Seemed like no hands stayed up. Seth explained that his work is all about finding that needle in a haystack, an analogy for the intelligent signal in the noise from other natural static of the universe. The search for extraterrestrial intelligence began back in the 1877, when an Italian astronomer saw lines on Mars through a telescope and started telling people they were canals, partly to generate interest in what's up there. Since then better telescopes and a deeper understanding of the way things work have proven that there is no life on Mars, but the search for extraterrestrial intelligence continues. Right now the largest radio telescope on the planet is in Puerto Rico. It's big enough to hold 4,000,000 scoops of ice cream. Signals from its dish are scanned constantly looking for information from other life forms out there. There are billions of stars in the Milky Way, and of those we have been able to examine about 750 to see if they have planets around them. Right now we are aware of about 30 planets orbiting stars other than our own. An orbiting telescope named after Kepler is planned for later this decade, and it is specifically designed to look for planets. After a few years of this surveying we expect to have some idea of the percentage of stars that have planets around them out there. Another way to look for life on other planets is to consider what life on earth says to us about the possibilities. For example, it is known that life on this planet has been around for about 3.5 billion of the 4 billion years since the planet has cooled enough to support it. Life that flourishes under extreme conditions is referred to as extremeaphiles. Arctic penguins are a mild example of the genre. It could be that looking at them will tell us something about what is possible out there, but since Seth is an astronomer he hasn't pursued that area much. The area that is most easy to look for results in is radio astronomy, so there are lots of projects in this area. One that Seth is excited about is the antenna array in Hat Creek, California. You get there by going north on 5 to Redding and then heading east for an hour or so. The array is in a valley that is well shielded by mountains from most radio noise, and the current antenna array of 42 dishes will get more sensitive every time it is expanded. They would like to expand it to 300 dishes, but they need donor support to make that possible. If you want to pay for a whole antenna dish they will put your name on it. Seth invited us to go up their and look around if we are interested. During Q&A a lot of other topics came up: Back in '97 they thought for a little while that they had detected a signal. Seth and his coworkers were up all night looking at it, and the New York Times was already calling for more information at 10 AM the next day. It wasn't for another few hours that they decided it was a false alarm. That is as close as they have come to detecting extraterrestrial life at this point in time. Seth thinks a real ET signal would take about two weeks to verify. There were copies of the book available for purchase at the end. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added Northern Mariana Islands quarter and Banana review. _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.143/2624 - Release Date: 01/15/10 04:47:00 From wrolley at charter.net Sat Jan 16 13:20:56 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:20:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] santa clara valley water In-Reply-To: <4B5215F1.5060600@sbcglobal.net> References: <4B5215F1.5060600@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4B522DB8.70405@charter.net> Thanks for the notification, Jim. I hope that someone goes there and asks why the Water District felt it was necssary to spend nearly half a million rate payer dollars lobbying in 2009.. SANTA CLARA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT $459,271 AB39, SB 12, BAY DELTA GOVERNANCE DELTA CONSERVANCY BAY DELTA FINANCE This compares to $216K from East Bay Mun. Util. District. I have a full listing of all the lobbying on water issues that was reported to the State. Mainly, we should ask about the specifics legislative agenda regarding Delta Conservancy, Bay Delta Governance and Delta Finance. Wes Jim Doyle wrote: > A member of the board of directors of the Santa Clara Valley Water district > wil be speaking on Monday February 1-st: > > *Santa Clara Valley Water Needs* > *What:* The Cambrian Community Council hosts a presentation by Larry Wilson > of the Santa Clara Valley Water District about Santa Clara Valley > water needs, > both now and in the future. > *When:* February 1 at 7 p.m. > *Where: *Cambrian School District, 4115 Jacksol Drive, San Jos? > *More Information:* Call Vicki Alexander at 507-6050. > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Jan 16 16:16:16 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:16:16 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. References: <4B51F694.4020804@charter.net> <4B520FCB.7040904@charter.net> Message-ID: <4B5256D0.50605@earthlink.net> The spoiler issue has been around a long time. The John Anderson for President campaign (in its Independent phase) was getting it from Republicans and Democrats in 1980. I think I heard that the Henry Wallace campaign for President (Progressive Party) had it in 1948. Maybe it's been around for 150-200 years. Gerry Wes Rolley wrote: > Brian Good wrote: > >> >> Most of the comments on the article are depressing. Somebody needs >> to refute the "Greens are spoilers" statement in the comments. >> >> B >> > That is an emotional position that is not subject to logical > refutation. The best answer is to say something like That's not my > problem. My problem is to get elected. > > There is a nastiness about some of the conservative bloggers that is > truly disconcerting and they would love nothing more than to get into an > exchange so they can rant some more. Most understand this. > > We need to pick and choose which to address. The spoiler issue is not > worth addressing for the sole reason that almost engraved in stone as > some 11th commandment of the Democratic Religion. > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better > and you don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Jan 16 16:35:39 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:35:39 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Global Cooling? Message-ID: <4B525B5B.9090209@earthlink.net> This article is about lies alleging global cooling, the growth in numbers of jellyfish, and U.S. Senate acting against the EPA regulating GHGs (greenhouse gases): "Global Cooling? Tell It to the Jellyfish" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/16-4 Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Sat Jan 16 18:45:34 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:45:34 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Global Cooling? In-Reply-To: <4B525B5B.9090209@earthlink.net> References: <4B525B5B.9090209@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B5279CE.7040203@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Jan 17 12:22:46 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:22:46 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] 1000 Architects and Engineers Message-ID: 1000 architects and engineers want new 9/11 investigations. http://www.ae911truth.org/ Wouldn't it be great if the AE911Truth talents, including 2 PhD architects, 18 PhD engineers, and 56 other PhDs, could spend their energies making the world better (like designing safe low-cost housing) instead of trying to make it less bad? Forget your beliefs about 9/11 truth. Truthers push a lot of nonsense, and often overstate their case. I went independent over a year ago. THE OFFICIAL REPORT ON THE TWIN TOWERS IS INCOMPLETE AND UNBELIEVABLE The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) investigation of the twin towers cut off its study at the moment of collapse initiation and thus dodged the most baffling aspects of the buildings' failures: ?symmetry (how does asymmetrical airplane damage and asymmetrical fire damage make a failure propagating across a robust, cross-braced core of 47 steel columns to yield a symmetrical collapse?) ?totality (see symmetry) ?speed (NIST says in Section 6.14.4 "essentially in free fall". Since the energyrequired to dismember the steel structure must be subtracted from the energyavailable to bring the debris to earth, this speed is puzzling) ?pulverization of 220 acres of concrete floors and associated steel pans (see "speed" above--the first law of thermodynamics demands that the energy consumedin pulverization be provided by (subtracted from) the kinetic energy available to bring the buildings down "essentially in free-fall".) ?molten steel (a dozen witnesses report melted steel, including Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, a professor of structural engineering at Berkeley. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel. Incendiaries such as thermite do. Dr. Steven Jonesclaims he has found flakes of unignited thermite in the WTC dust.) WHAT ABOUT BUILDING 7? WTC7, the third skyscraper that fell, was nearly as tall as the TransAmerica Pyramid and had almost four times the floor area. NIST posits an unbelievable collapse mechanism, claiming the entire interior of the building--all the floors, and all the columns--fell down in 7 seconds leaving an empty shell standing. That would leave 600-foot-tall perimeter columns standing with no lateral support from the floors, and NIST's computer models show the shell folding up like a wet paper bag. (Their picture only goes up to floor 25 -- presumably to hide the upper stories because they're even more distorted) http://i36.tinypic.com/25jbody.jpg The videos look much different: virtually undistorted, the building comes straight and symmetrically down into a tidy heap in 6.5 seconds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A Check out the AE911Truth.org website. http://www.ae911truth.org/ Also see this independent enhanced production of an appearance by AE911Truth founder Richard Gage on Fox News Fresno last May: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVO5jNZ34I0 Please bring up your questions with any architects, engineers, physicists, and builders you know. You or they are free to phone or email me. After way too many years on this stuff, I would be extremely grateful if some knowledgeable engineer would pat my silly little head and show me where I'm wrong so I can move on in my life. I have emailed a couple thousand college professors and I've never seen any indication that they can. Even if the conspiracy theories about 9/11 are completely bogus (and I wish I could believe that) the silent acquiescence to unbelievable, dishonest, and incomplete official reports gives the lie to the belief that we live in an open and democratic society. Chief Ray Downey, FDNY, was one of the premier collapse experts in the USA. He said the failure of WTC2 was too even to be a natural collapse, and it looked like it was done with explosives. He died a half hour later when WTC1 collapsed. In service of Chief Downey and other Ground Zero victims I continue to quest for plausible answers. Brian Good 650.327.6214 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Cindy Marcopulos On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:18 PM, wrote: > > https://msf.donorportal.ca/MSFEN/Handlers/ShowPDF.ashx?DonationId=ydqD7bKDIrM4BAjOD3MCjw%3d%3d&Culture=z1gj0DngKvI%3d > > _______________________________________________ > gpsmc-d mailing list > gpsmc-d at lists.cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpsmc-d > http://cagreens.org/sanmateo/ > -- If you're not fighting for our democracy, then you're part of the problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Jan 17 15:05:34 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:05:34 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Drug War Ending? Message-ID: <4B5397BE.7020501@earthlink.net> "US Waves White Flag in Disastrous 'War on Drugs'" "After 40 years, Washington is quietly giving up on a futile battle that has spread corruption and destroyed thousands of lives" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/17 Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Mon Jan 18 12:05:25 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:05:25 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Water District Message-ID: <4B54BF05.9040702@charter.net> Jim Doyle posted the announcement of a public information meeting to be held by Water District Board Member Larry Wilson. Wilson represents the 4th District. You can check the current district boundaries on this map. http://www.valleywater.org/uploadedImages/About/Redistricting/BoardOfDirectorsMap.jpg District boundaries are being re-drawn. Current board has 5 elected director and 2 others appointed by the County Supervisors... mostly as political hack retirement benefits. I have serious issues with the water district. It goes far beyond the neat half million $$$ that they spent lobbying the legislature regarding the package of bills that was rammed through last fall. If anyone from Wilson's district is planning on attending the meeting, please contact me off line and let's consider how to orchestrate what we can do here. Email me at wrolley at charter.net or call me at the number in the signature. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Jan 18 14:48:49 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:48:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. In-Reply-To: <4B520FCB.7040904@charter.net> References: <4B51F694.4020804@charter.net> <4B520FCB.7040904@charter.net> Message-ID: <597323.394.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Okay, so what are we going to do for her? Caroline ________________________________ From: Wes Rolley To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 11:13:15 AM Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Laura Wells in Sac Bee - From my blog. Brian Good wrote: >?? Most of the comments on the article are depressing.? Somebody needs to refute the "Greens are spoilers" statement in the comments. > >? B > >That is an emotional position that is not subject to logical refutation.? The best answer is to say something like That's not my problem.? My problem is to get elected. There is a nastiness about some of the conservative bloggers that is truly disconcerting and they would love nothing more than to get into an exchange so they can rant some more.?? Most understand this. We need to pick and choose which to address.? The spoiler issue is not worth addressing for the sole reason that almost engraved in stone as some 11th commandment of the Democratic Religion. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 18 17:04:07 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:04:07 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county polling update Message-ID: <4B550507.80005@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ January 18, 2010 To: GPCA County Councils, Co-Coordinators, and Activists From: County Polling Coordinators Re: Early 2010 County Polling; Additional Ballot Measure for June 2010 Election As of January 12, 2010, the Secretary of State certified an additional initiative for consideration of the voters on the June ballot. Green Issues Working Group previously submitted the following statement regarding the measure for the March 2010 Plenary Agenda Packet. Please add the following measure to your County Polling considerations and reports. Warner Bloomberg, County Polling Coordinator /_Public Utility Voting Threshold_/ PG&E's effort to make it more difficult for localities to create public power utilities. A truly pernicious and anti-democratic proposal. GIWG recommends the General Assembly adopt an "Against" position. http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/initiatives/pdfs/i812_initiative_09-0015.pdf From alexcathy at aol.com Tue Jan 19 07:38:57 2010 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:38:57 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Judgement Day in Massachusetts Message-ID: <8CC6734A625D76F-480C-218EF@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, Cathy Deppe and I lived in the Massachusetts of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barney Frank, and Joe Kennedy in 90s. Republicans may win in the special election to succeed Ted. One year after Obama'swin Democrats are in disarray and the GOP is totally insane. Do weneed any more evidence the tiresome Republicans vs. Democrats game isdysfunctional? Alex Walker = = = = = = = = = = URL: http://tinyurl.com/ygr4dmb Posted on Salon.com, Tuesday, January 19, 2010 Election, and Judgement Day in Massachusetts by Gabriel Winant 364 days after Barack Obama was sworn in as president, he faces what?slikely to be cast as his first major judgment at the hands of anunsettled electorate. The special election that Massachusetts isholding today in order to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedywasn?t evensupposed to be competitive. Now it threatens to derail the agenda ofthe president and his party for the foreseeable future. The Democratic nomination for Senate, ostensibly a plum spot in the country?s most liberal state, was won by state Attorney General Martha Coakley in a competitive December primary. Coakleyhad been elected statewide already, and had a strong reputation. Shewas exactly the kind of candidate who wins Senate races easily. Meanwhile, the GOP overwhelmingly voted for Scott Brown, one of justfive Republicans in the state Senate. It was clear from the start thathe was a good candidate, but being a good candidateisn?t supposed to be enough for a Republican in Massachusetts. It?s a been six tough weeks for the Democrats, though. Coakley wentAWOL for a period, and when she came back, she was suddenlygaffe-prone; among other things, she inexplicably dismissed Boston RedSox legend Curt Schilling, who got involved in the race on theRepublican side, as "another Yankees fan." Brown?s screwed up some too, but the results speak for themselves: It?s election day, and the Republican appears to be solidly ahead. . . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or have too many of us been so protective of the Democratic party that we think like the so-called "liberal" segment of the "bewildered herd?" If we can't get significant numbers of Greens elected in these "interesting times," shame on us. Andrea On Jan 19, 2010, at 7:38 AM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Dear Green Friends, > > Cathy Deppe and I lived in the Massachusetts of Ted Kennedy, John > Kerry, Barney Frank, and Joe Kennedy in 90s. Republicans may win > in the special election to succeed Ted. One year after Obama's win > Democrats are in disarray and the GOP is totally insane. Do we > need any more evidence the tiresome Republicans vs. Democrats game > is dysfunctional? > > > Alex Walker > > > = = = = = = = = = = > URL: http://tinyurl.com/ygr4dmb > > Posted on Salon.com, Tuesday, January 19, 2010 > Election, and Judgement Day in Massachusetts > by Gabriel Winant > > 364 days after Barack Obama was sworn in as president, he faces > what?s likely to be cast as his first major judgment at the hands > of an unsettled electorate. The special election that Massachusetts > is holding today in order to replace the late Sen. Ted > Kennedywasn?t even supposed to be competitive. Now it threatens to > derail the agenda of the president and his party for the > foreseeable future. > > The Democratic nomination for Senate, ostensibly a plum spot in the > country?s most liberal state, was won by state Attorney General > Martha Coakley in a competitive December primary. Coakley had been > elected statewide already, and had a strong reputation. She was > exactly the kind of candidate who wins Senate races easily. > > Meanwhile, the GOP overwhelmingly voted for Scott Brown, one of > just five Republicans in the state Senate. It was clear from the > start that he was a good candidate, but being a good candidateisn?t > supposed to be enough for a Republican in Massachusetts. > > It?s a been six tough weeks for the Democrats, though. Coakley went > AWOL for a period, and when she came back, she was suddenly gaffe- > prone; among other things, she inexplicably dismissed Boston Red > Sox legend Curt Schilling, who got involved in the race on the > Republican side, as "another Yankees fan." Brown?s screwed up some > too, but the results speak for themselves: It?s election day, and > the Republican appears to be solidly ahead. . . > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Jan 19 12:13:24 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:13:24 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Judgement Day in Massachusetts References: <8CC6734A625D76F-480C-218EF@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4B561264.3030900@earthlink.net> Jon Stewart had something to say about this last night, some of it available on YouTube today. (Including something about setting the bar so low we just need to wait for them to trip over it.) Common Dreams has a few items about this: (Coakley is the Democratic candidate) "Martha Coakley and 'Sidecar' Reconciliation: The Public Option Lives Again" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/19-10 "A Wake Up Call from Massachussetts" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/18-8 "If Massachusetts Goes Republican, All Hell Breaks Loose with Healthcare!" "And that might not be a bad thing" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/15-12 "Coakley's Corporate Connection" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/15-10 Gerry alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Dear Green Friends, > > Cathy Deppe and I lived in the Massachusetts of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, > Barney Frank, and Joe Kennedy in 90s. Republicans may win in the > special election to succeed Ted. One year after Obama's win Democrats > are in disarray and the GOP is totally insane. Do we need any more > evidence the tiresome Republicans vs. Democrats game is dysfunctional? > > > Alex Walker > > > = = = = = = = = = = > URL: http://tinyurl.com/ygr4dmb > > Posted on Salon.com, Tuesday, January 19, 2010 > Election, and Judgement Day in Massachusetts > by Gabriel Winant > > 364 days after Barack Obama was sworn in as president, he faces what?s > likely to be cast as his first major judgment at the hands of an > unsettled electorate. The special election that Massachusetts is holding > today in order to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedywasn?t even supposed > to be competitive. Now it threatens to derail the agenda of the > president and his party for the foreseeable future. > > The Democratic nomination for Senate, ostensibly a plum spot in the > country?s most liberal state, was won by state Attorney General Martha > Coakley in a competitive December primary. Coakley had been elected > statewide already, and had a strong reputation. She was exactly the kind > of candidate who wins Senate races easily. > > Meanwhile, the GOP overwhelmingly voted for Scott Brown, one of just > five Republicans in the state Senate. It was clear from the start that > he was a good candidate, but being a good candidateisn?t supposed to be > enough for a Republican in Massachusetts. > > It?s a been six tough weeks for the Democrats, though. Coakley went AWOL > for a period, and when she came back, she was suddenly gaffe-prone; > among other things, she inexplicably dismissed Boston Red Sox legend > Curt Schilling, who got involved in the race on the Republican side, as > "another Yankees fan." Brown?s screwed up some too, but the results > speak for themselves: It?s election day, and the Republican appears to > be solidly ahead. . . > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From wrolley at charter.net Tue Jan 19 12:55:20 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:55:20 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Judgement Day in Massachusetts In-Reply-To: <4B561264.3030900@earthlink.net> References: <8CC6734A625D76F-480C-218EF@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> <4B561264.3030900@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B561C38.2060505@charter.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Senatorial election focus on the need > for 60 votes for health care, they don't mention that 60 votes might be > needed for a climate bill as well, though that might not be entirely so > partisan. I don't know how partisan or non partison it is. I have heard, but don't know if it is true, that the two leading global warming contrarians are Inhofe (R-OK) and Baucus (D-MT). I have heard that one strong reason for "denying" global warming is the fear that it would lead to strong government intervention in our lives, a concern more on the right than the left. The Kahn article says: ================= "...'It is ironic that a Republican victory could create a setback for market-based instruments and a greater reliance on command-and-control regulation.'" ================= Similarly, it is ironic that the climate deniers successful efforts over decades to prevent government "interference" may ultimatley lead to the government needing to take even stronger "command-and-control" actions when the situation gets severe enough. Gerry > > Read what UCLA Econ. Professor Matthew I. Kahn > > has to say about that election and Carbon Cap and Trade. Remember both > Poizner and Whitman are running with statements about postponing the > implementation of AB 32.. or dumping it entirely. > > Wes > From wrolley at charter.net Tue Jan 19 15:50:59 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:50:59 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Judgement Day in Massachusetts In-Reply-To: <4B5638BF.2040503@earthlink.net> References: <8CC6734A625D76F-480C-218EF@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com> <4B561264.3030900@earthlink.net> <4B561C38.2060505@charter.net> <4B5638BF.2040503@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B564563.2060904@charter.net> Gerry Gras wrote: > , > > I don't know how partisan or non partison it is. I have heard, > but don't know if it is true, that the two leading global > warming contrarians are Inhofe (R-OK) and Baucus (D-MT). Easy to explain: Inhofe = oil I would rather have though the Denier Dem would have been Dorgan (ND) and that is Coal. Baucus is takign a stronger stand, though, but it seems more for political power. According to Politico... > > For liberal Democrats unhappy with the way Max Baucus is handling > health care reform, here?s another dose of bad news: He?s got his > hands on climate and energy, too. > > Behind closed doors, Sen. Baucus has been staking his claim on major > aspects of the climate bill, including financing for a cap-and-trade > system. > > His power play could put Baucus at the helm of the Obama > administration?s domestic agenda, giving an unpredictable Montana > Democrat control over legislative proposals that could define the > Democratic Party for years to come. > > > I have heard that one strong reason for "denying" global > warming is the fear that it would lead to strong > government intervention in our lives, a concern more on > the right than the left. > > The Kahn article says: > ================= > "...'It is ironic that a Republican victory could create > a setback for market-based instruments and a greater > reliance on command-and-control regulation.'" > ================= > > Similarly, it is ironic that the climate deniers successful > efforts over decades to prevent government "interference" > may ultimatley lead to the government needing to take even > stronger "command-and-control" actions when the situation > gets severe enough. That is very true. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente Wes Rolley 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 From andid at cagreens.org Tue Jan 19 17:12:27 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:12:27 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Cell Phone On Again Starting Wednesday 01/20 Message-ID: <2148EFE6-DC22-4392-A1F1-4E1E5B84923C@cagreens.org> I've been out of town for over a month, so my cell phone has not been getting a good signal. Now I return tomorrow AM, so I will begin to check the cell phone early morning and early evening (before dark). Wifi will be checked 2-3 times per week. Andrea 408-306-1900 (short messages only please) From eameece at sfo.com Tue Jan 19 18:25:40 2010 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:25:40 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Judgement Day in Massachusetts In-Reply-To: <4B564563.2060904@charter.net> References: <8CC6734A625D76F-480C-218EF@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com><4B561264.3030900@earthlink.net> <4B561C38.2060505@charter.net><4B5638BF.2040503@earthlink.net> <4B564563.2060904@charter.net> Message-ID: <35DEE6707DBB47AAACB9B16730901563@eameecePC> I think we can pretty well give up now on planet earth and amerika. The Democrats had one year, and did nothing with it. Now we have republicans back in charge, probably for another 15 years. That added to 14 years before 2008, and another 12 years before 1993. We are wrecked. Republicans be damned. Americans are so stupid in so many ways; it is amazing. Bush created all the problems they are blaming Obama for. Eric M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wes Rolley" To: "Gerry Gras" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Sosfbay-discuss] Judgement Day in Massachusetts > Gerry Gras wrote: >> , >> >> I don't know how partisan or non partison it is. I have heard, >> but don't know if it is true, that the two leading global >> warming contrarians are Inhofe (R-OK) and Baucus (D-MT). > Easy to explain: Inhofe = oil > I would rather have though the Denier Dem would have been Dorgan (ND) > and that is Coal. > > Baucus is takign a stronger stand, though, but it seems more for > political power. According to Politico... >> >> For liberal Democrats unhappy with the way Max Baucus is handling >> health care reform, here?s another dose of bad news: He?s got his >> hands on climate and energy, too. >> >> Behind closed doors, Sen. Baucus has been staking his claim on major >> aspects of the climate bill, including financing for a cap-and-trade >> system. >> >> His power play could put Baucus at the helm of the Obama >> administration?s domestic agenda, giving an unpredictable Montana >> Democrat control over legislative proposals that could define the >> Democratic Party for years to come. >> > >> >> I have heard that one strong reason for "denying" global >> warming is the fear that it would lead to strong >> government intervention in our lives, a concern more on >> the right than the left. >> >> The Kahn article says: >> ================= >> "...'It is ironic that a Republican victory could create >> a setback for market-based instruments and a greater >> reliance on command-and-control regulation.'" >> ================= >> >> Similarly, it is ironic that the climate deniers successful >> efforts over decades to prevent government "interference" >> may ultimatley lead to the government needing to take even >> stronger "command-and-control" actions when the situation >> gets severe enough. > That is very true. > > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better > and you don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" Roberto Clemente > > Wes Rolley > 17211 Quail Court, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 > http://www.refpub.com/ -- Tel: 408.778.3024 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 270.14.151/2633 - Release Date: 01/19/10 09:49:00 From wb4d23 at aol.com Wed Jan 20 13:26:37 2010 From: wb4d23 at aol.com (wb4d23 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:26:37 EST Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Call for Agenda Items GPSCC Monthly Meeting Wed. Feb. 3rd Message-ID: <128dd.4c004ae0.3888cf0d@aol.com> At the January GPSCC general meeting, I volunteered to prepare the agenda for the next meeting. This is a first call for requests for agenda items. Please indicate if your requests will be a report, decision item or both. Please provide a brief description of the topic and plainly state what you will be proposing for decision(s). Please indicate the amount of time you are requesting for each proposed agenda item. At this time, we anticipate: Preliminary appointments of delegates and alternates for the upcoming Plenary; Decisions on four ballot measures for County Polling; Updates on preparations and needs for volunteers for the March 6th-7th Plenary; Updates for the next Food for Thought event; Updates on County Council candidates. Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 20 13:48:00 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:48:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] candidate recruitment for gpca cc Message-ID: <4B577A10.8090806@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> NOTE: This is a recruitment announcement for the Coordinating Committee of the state party. Please circulate this message on lists in your county that reach potential candidates. Also note that the submission date in Jan. 29, which is the date to have your name listed as a candidate in the agenda packet. However, since that date is close, we will continue accepting applications and bios. All bios will be posted online. We will circulate an updated list of candidates two weeks before the meeting on Mar. 6-7. The extended deadline is Feb. 20. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Applicants are needed for the ?new? restructured Coordinating Committee (CC) for the GPCA. Because of the events in Washington and Sacramento, this is an extraordinary time for Greens to be organizing and carrying our message to voters. Anyone who wishes to help build the Green Party is encouraged to apply. The Coordinating Committee is responsible for coordinating state party meetings, facilitating internal communications and performing other administrative tasks such as: implementing policies adopted by the General Assembly, conducting party business between the state meetings, and coordinating the other standing committees and working groups of the state party. Committee members are responsible for participating in a monthly teleconference (the first Monday of each month from 7:30 to 9:30 p.m.). You will also be asked to serve on one of our committees. Following the March Plenary, an on-line election will be held for 14 new At-Large Representatives for the CC. They will serve alongside 12 Regional Representatives. The members of the CC serve for staggered two-year terms. Because this election will be for all 14 At-Large Representatives, 7 will be elected to a one-year term and 7 for a two-year term. To apply: Send a brief bio to the Plenary Agenda Team (agenda-team at cagreens.org ) by January 29th so it can be included in the packet that is distributed before the March Plenary. In your bio, please tells us briefly about your work within the Green Party and what you would like to work on as a member of the CC. You should also plan to attend the Plenary (March 6th and 7th) in San Jose and be prepared to give a 1 to 2 minute statement to delegates why you should be elected to serve on the CC. If you have any questions, please contact: Barry Hermanson Co-chair of the Coordinating Committee GPCA barry at hermansons.com 415-664-7754 From jims at greens.org Wed Jan 20 16:12:46 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:12:46 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: South Bay Clean Money Working Group meeting 5pm this Thursday (Jan. 21st) Message-ID: <4B579BFE.8010805@greens.org> Begin forwarded message: > *From: *Brian > > *Date: *January 20, 2010 3:04:19 AM PST > *To: *southbayarea at caclean.org > *Subject: **[CAclean] South Bay Clean Money Working Group meeting 5pm > this Thursday (Jan. 21st)* > > Here's the info about the January meeting: > > Thursday, Jan. 21st > 5-6pm (the video is shown at 5pm) > Remax Realty, Suite 210 (second floor) > 19200 Stevens Creek Blvd. > Cupertino > > (This is just south of highway 280 between Wolfe Road > and Lawrence Expressway, which are both exits off of > 280.) > > The upcoming speaker/tabler training session this Saturday (Jan. 23rd) > in Palo Alto for the California Fair Elections Act will be discussed > as well as other campaign developments and opportunities. > > Hope you can make it. > > Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > Southbayarea at CAclean.org mailing list > To remove yourself or change your options: > http://lists.caclean.org/mailman/listinfo/southbayarea From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Jan 21 09:16:30 2010 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 12:16:30 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is DEM Health Care Bill Really Worse Than Nothing? Message-ID: <8CC68D49ABC753E-7FE8-F879@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> Dear Green Friends, L.A. City Greens had a lively discussion at our monthly meeting last night about efforts by liberals to "save" the Democrats' pathetic healthcare "reform" bill. I was surprised and a bit dismayed that even some Greens are swayed by the clich? about not letting "the perfect be the enemy of the good" and how the bill "is not perfect, but a 1st step" and unfamiliar with arguments this bill is WORST THAN NOTHING. It's important because I think healthcare is still a good issue for our 2010 California candidates. TINYURL: http://tinyurl.com/yze9o9j = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Posted on Counterpunch, December 8, 2009. YES, THIS HEALTH CARE BILL REALLY IS WORSE THAN NOTHING by Helen Redmond Already defenders and apologists for the Democrat?s health care legislation are busy at work. In the next few weeks they will be working overtime to persuade, cajole, shame and ruthlessly attack if necessary, anyone opposing health care legislation. They?ll reserve special hysteria, invective and contempt for those of us who continue to support a single-payer, national health care system. And because it is the holiday season, we will be called heartless health care Grinches and silly, single payer, Bernie Sanders Scrooges. There will be accusations: ?If you don?t support health care reform legislation, you support the status quo.? Implicit in the indictment is single-payer advocates, with their pie-in-the-sky idea that health care is a human right for all, will be responsible for the continued impoverishment and immiseration of the American people if a bill doesn?t pass. Joshua Holland, an editor and senior writer for AlterNet and Uwe E. Reinhardt, an economics professor at Princeton, have begun the onslaught. In a piece posted on AlterNet November, 24th titled, ?Is the House?s Health Bill Really Worse than Nothing?? Holland attacks Dr. Marcia Angell, author, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and a leader of Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP.) Dr. Angell opposes the House bill and believes it?s ?worse than nothing.? For that she earns the disdain of Joshua who just can?t accept there isn?t something in the bill worth supporting, even though he agrees with her trenchant criticism of the bill?s gaping defects. He claims she ignores the ?primary thrust of the legislation? which for Holland is ?the fact that the House legislation would do quite a bit for millions of real Americans struggling through a very real health care crisis.? ?Real? Americans, a ?real? health care crisis? The insinuation is Angell, and by affiliation PNHP, isn?t operating in the real world of real suffering if they don?t support whatever bill Congress delivers to the Oval Office for a signature. That?s interesting. An organization of 16,000 doctors that conducts research on major aspects of the health care crisis and have been on the frontlines for real reform for decades doesn?t understand what?s real? Holland argues Angell negates her original thesis when she writes, ?The bill has a few good provisions (expansion of Medicaid, for example) but they are marginal.? It doesn?t. Her central contention is even with an expansion of Medicaid and a few other ?good? provisions, the bill is a bomb because on balance, it entrenches the power and profits of the private insurance industry - the source of the health care crisis. . . . According to a study published in the Annals of Family Medicine, ?Medicaid programs in all 50 states implemented cost-savings strategies, including benefit reductions, cost sharing and tightened administrative rules during the recent economic downturn.? Medicaid operates within the dysfunctional, multi-payer health care system and has suffered from an expand-contract cycle since its inception. It?s a favorite target for blame-the-victim politicians who want to get poor people off welfare (and health care) and into the workforce with no health care. Under the Clinton Administration?s ?welfare reform,? hundreds-of-thousands of mostly women and children lost Medicaid coverage. The Medicaid program is not an entitlement or a right. An onerous redetermination is done every year in most states. And in fact, losing Medicaid coverage for a variety of reasons is the norm. . . . Here?s the conundrum - if you support subsidies to help people buy insurance and the expansion of Medicaid, you are forced to support the transfer of billions of taxpayer dollars into the coffers of the investor-owned insurance industry and a mandate that criminalizes and punishes people. You also have to accept the Stupak Amendment and the denial of health care to millions of undocumented workers. There are more poison pills to swallow. Holland thinks it?s fine insurance will still be linked to employment ? tell that to the millions who are unemployed and being laid off by the thousands every day. In the House bill, if employers offer insurance, they must pay at least 72.5 percent of the premium for individuals and 65 percent for families. That?s too low and gives companies who pay a higher percentage an incentive to shift costs onto employees until they hit the government-mandated limit. Workers will then be dumped into the insurance exchange because it will be cheaper for employers and once there, because of the mandate, forced to buy stripped down plans with no limits on premiums. . . . Toward the end of his assault on Dr. Angell?s position, Holland writes, ??drawing the line at the House bill is privileging ideology over getting something done in the short-term, however imperfect it might be overall.? But that is precisely the problem. For decades short-term, imperfect reforms are offered that inexorably lead right back to the crisis. Then more short-term, imperfect reforms are offered and the cycle continues. Instead of attacking the privileged ideology of for-profit, corporate controlled health care, Joshua attacks single-payer ideology and argues to abandon it in order to get something, anything done. Single-payer supporters also reject his false choice of ?trying to push for the best package possible or leaving a disastrous status quo in place?? The not so subtle message is if a bill doesn?t pass we will be responsible for the disastrous status quo that is the state of health care in this country. Sorry Joshua, but that responsibility will rest with the Obama Administration that at every turn placated the profit hungry, parasitic insurance and pharmaceutical industries. And if a bill does pass this year, we can hurry up and wait 4 years because that?s when it will be enacted! So, disastrous status quo for 4 more years, then in 2013 implementation of a disastrous bill that will continue to leave 20 million uninsured. I can hardly wait. . . . Reinhardt needs to come down from his Ivy Tower and join the movement for single-payer. It?s really not so bad down here at the grassroots level, Uwe. There is PNHP with 16,000 members. The California Nurses Association (CNA) supports single-payer and has thousands of members, too. Sections of the labor movement support single-payer. There are grassroots, single-payer organizations in almost every state with committed members who got arrested in acts of civil disobedience at insurance company headquarters. And poll after poll consistently shows the majority of Americans want government-run, guaranteed and financed health care. . . . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Helen Redmond, LCSW, is a medical social worker in Chicago. She can be reached at redmondmadrid at yahoo.com. ORIGINAL URL: http://www.counterpunch.com/redmond12082009.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Jan 21 11:51:30 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:51:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?windows-1252?q?=22He_Wasn=92t_The_One=22_says?= =?windows-1252?q?_Krugman?= Message-ID: He Wasn?t The One We?ve Been Waiting For"I?m pretty close to giving up on Mr. Obama, who seems determined to confirm every doubt I and others ever had about whether he was ready to fight for what his supporters believed in." http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/he-wasnt-the-one-weve-been-waiting-for/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eameece at sfo.com Thu Jan 21 14:53:00 2010 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:53:00 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is DEM Health Care Bill Really Worse Than Nothing? In-Reply-To: <8CC68D49ABC753E-7FE8-F879@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CC68D49ABC753E-7FE8-F879@webmail-d025.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <81A566AAB8704A7A88B7095F28B60584@eameecePC> I supported a "first step, stepped down" health care bill with a public option that Howard Dean recommended, as well as single-payer. But Obama and the Democrats have caved in over and over again to the power of the Liebermans and the deceived voters of Massachusetts. They refuse to use all the tools available to them to pass a bill. They have been sitting on this, and climate change, and financial reform, even before they lost their working 60-vote majority. Some of us are sending petitions and making calls now to try to get the Democrats to use their majority and the reconciliation process to pass real health care reform. We are bucking the tide, of course; the ignorance of the American people and the media that influences them is so vast it is incomprehensible. Our nation continues as it has been, under the heel of the right-wing free market economics ideology. The "tea parties" of hoodwincked, fanatical idiots are hard to comprehend; they don't know they are the tools of big money fascism. It will take years and years of work to convince people that this ideology is false. This seems to me the only issue. Either people continue to be charmed by Ronald Reagan and his libertarian economics, and Amerika continues to decline; or we wake up and move forward after our decades-long slide. This issue is quite stark. Most people are too stupid to actually vote for Green candidates in these times. The candidates should be there, available to vote for, just to provide an alternative, sane voice of the truth that should have been realized and acted upon decades ago. The truth that people in most other countries already know; but not Americans, because we are spellbound to Ronald Reagan and his ideology. Anything else but Reaganism they call "socialism." They are sick and diseased. They can't stand to lose any of their power and money, or to have their false ideals challenged. Someone needs to cure them; it will take decades to do it, probably, or we have to educate the younger generation and wait for the crazies to die off. Make no mistake; the American people are to blame for this state of affairs. We get the government we deserve. But meanwhile the Green Party needs to do more than run candidates and keep its institutions going. Many Greens think that is all we should do. They are wrong. The Greens need to be activists, and not just in the streets, but as lobbyists and as pressure groups. With politicians, our lobbying and pressure would have the added power that we can run a candidate against them, and possibly spoil their election, if they don't listen to us. We Greens cannot sit on our heels, and expect to have any effect or get any support. We ought to get activist groups together, like many other groups are doing, online and elsewhere, and meanwhile join with these other groups too. We need to work at local and state levels too, if not primarily. Just staying on the sidelines, indulging in our own institutional battles and attending our own platform and by-laws committees, celebrating our alternative way of making decisions, waving signs on the street, and running candidates who can't win without the purpose of pressuring specific elected officials, is not enough. Eric Meece, former Treasurer, Santa Clara County Greens ----- Original Message ----- From: alexcathy at aol.com To: gplac-forum at lists.cagreens.org ; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Is DEM Health Care Bill Really Worse Than Nothing? Dear Green Friends, L.A. City Greens had a lively discussion at our monthly meeting last night about efforts by liberals to "save" the Democrats' pathetic healthcare "reform" bill. I was surprised and a bit dismayed that even some Greens are swayed by the clich? about not letting "the perfect be the enemy of the good" and how the bill "is not perfect, but a 1st step" and unfamiliar with arguments this bill is WORST THAN NOTHING. It's important because I think healthcare is still a good issue for our 2010 California candidates. TINYURL: http://tinyurl.com/yze9o9j = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Posted on Counterpunch, December 8, 2009. YES, THIS HEALTH CARE BILL REALLY IS WORSE THAN NOTHING by Helen Redmond Already defenders and apologists for the Democrat?s health care legislation are busy at work. In the next few weeks they will be working overtime to persuade, cajole, shame and ruthlessly attack if necessary, anyone opposing health care legislation. They?ll reserve special hysteria, invective and contempt for those of us who continue to support a single-payer, national health care system. And because it is the holiday season, we will be called heartless health care Grinches and silly, single payer, Bernie Sanders Scrooges. There will be accusations: ?If you don?t support health care reform legislation, you support the status quo.? Implicit in the indictment is single-payer advocates, with their pie-in-the-sky idea that health care is a human right for all, will be responsible for the continued impoverishment and immiseration of the American people if a bill doesn?t pass. Joshua Holland, an editor and senior writer for AlterNet and Uwe E. Reinhardt, an economics professor at Princeton, have begun the onslaught. In a piece posted on AlterNet November, 24th titled, ?Is the House?s Health Bill Really Worse than Nothing?? Holland attacks Dr. Marcia Angell, author, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine and a leader of Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP.) Dr. Angell opposes the House bill and believes it?s ?worse than nothing.? For that she earns the disdain of Joshua who just can?t accept there isn?t something in the bill worth supporting, even though he agrees with her trenchant criticism of the bill?s gaping defects. He claims she ignores the ?primary thrust of the legislation? which for Holland is ?the fact that the House legislation would do quite a bit for millions of real Americans struggling through a very real health care crisis.? ?Real? Americans, a ?real? health care crisis? The insinuation is Angell, and by affiliation PNHP, isn?t operating in the real world of real suffering if they don?t support whatever bill Congress delivers to the Oval Office for a signature. That?s interesting. An organization of 16,000 doctors that conducts research on major aspects of the health care crisis and have been on the frontlines for real reform for decades doesn?t understand what?s real? Holland argues Angell negates her original thesis when she writes, ?The bill has a few good provisions (expansion of Medicaid, for example) but they are marginal.? It doesn?t. Her central contention is even with an expansion of Medicaid and a few other ?good? provisions, the bill is a bomb because on balance, it entrenches the power and profits of the private insurance industry - the source of the health care crisis. . . . According to a study published in the Annals of Family Medicine, ?Medicaid programs in all 50 states implemented cost-savings strategies, including benefit reductions, cost sharing and tightened administrative rules during the recent economic downturn.? Medicaid operates within the dysfunctional, multi-payer health care system and has suffered from an expand-contract cycle since its inception. It?s a favorite target for blame-the-victim politicians who want to get poor people off welfare (and health care) and into the workforce with no health care. Under the Clinton Administration?s ?welfare reform,? hundreds-of-thousands of mostly women and children lost Medicaid coverage. The Medicaid program is not an entitlement or a right. An onerous redetermination is done every year in most states. And in fact, losing Medicaid coverage for a variety of reasons is the norm. . . . Here?s the conundrum - if you support subsidies to help people buy insurance and the expansion of Medicaid, you are forced to support the transfer of billions of taxpayer dollars into the coffers of the investor-owned insurance industry and a mandate that criminalizes and punishes people. You also have to accept the Stupak Amendment and the denial of health care to millions of undocumented workers. There are more poison pills to swallow. Holland thinks it?s fine insurance will still be linked to employment ? tell that to the millions who are unemployed and being laid off by the thousands every day. In the House bill, if employers offer insurance, they must pay at least 72.5 percent of the premium for individuals and 65 percent for families. That?s too low and gives companies who pay a higher percentage an incentive to shift costs onto employees until they hit the government-mandated limit. Workers will then be dumped into the insurance exchange because it will be cheaper for employers and once there, because of the mandate, forced to buy stripped down plans with no limits on premiums. . . . Toward the end of his assault on Dr. Angell?s position, Holland writes, ??drawing the line at the House bill is privileging ideology over getting something done in the short-term, however imperfect it might be overall.? But that is precisely the problem. For decades short-term, imperfect reforms are offered that inexorably lead right back to the crisis. Then more short-term, imperfect reforms are offered and the cycle continues. Instead of attacking the privileged ideology of for-profit, corporate controlled health care, Joshua attacks single-payer ideology and argues to abandon it in order to get something, anything done. Single-payer supporters also reject his false choice of ?trying to push for the best package possible or leaving a disastrous status quo in place?? The not so subtle message is if a bill doesn?t pass we will be responsible for the disastrous status quo that is the state of health care in this country. Sorry Joshua, but that responsibility will rest with the Obama Administration that at every turn placated the profit hungry, parasitic insurance and pharmaceutical industries. And if a bill does pass this year, we can hurry up and wait 4 years because that?s when it will be enacted! So, disastrous status quo for 4 more years, then in 2013 implementation of a disastrous bill that will continue to leave 20 million uninsured. I can hardly wait. . . . Reinhardt needs to come down from his Ivy Tower and join the movement for single-payer. It?s really not so bad down here at the grassroots level, Uwe. There is PNHP with 16,000 members. The California Nurses Association (CNA) supports single-payer and has thousands of members, too. Sections of the labor movement support single-payer. There are grassroots, single-payer organizations in almost every state with committed members who got arrested in acts of civil disobedience at insurance company headquarters. And poll after poll consistently shows the majority of Americans want government-run, guaranteed and financed health care. . . . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Helen Redmond, LCSW, is a medical social worker in Chicago. She can be reached at redmondmadrid at yahoo.com. ORIGINAL URL: http://www.counterpunch.com/redmond12082009.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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You might remember that at the time (2006) the Gitmo commander declared these alleged suicides to be "an act of asymmetrical warfare." A navy investigation reported that the men had hanged themselves. When the bodies were returned to the families, the larynxes, hyoid bones, and thyroid cartilage -- which would have allowed determination of whether death was by hanging, strangulation, or choking -- were all missing. After Obama was inaugurated, Joe Hickman, one of the Gitmo soldiers, went to the Obama Department of Justice with information suggesting the suicide story was false. The DoJ investigator, Teresa McHenry, dropped the case last November, claiming ?the gist of Sergeant Hickman?s information could not be confirmed.? Mr. Horton has long been saying that we can't expect the DoJ to do the right thing in these matters because the DoJ is itself "a crime scene." In this case he insinuates that the DoJ participated in the coverup from the start, and McHenry may be aware of its criminal nature. Horton also points out that another prisoner death last June was inadequately explained. Horton concludes: "Those charged with accounting for what happened ... face a choice between the rule of law and the expedience of political silence. Thus far, their choice has been unanimous." Horton's article will be in the March issue of Harper's. UK Guardian article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/18/guantanamo-investigation-harpers-interrogation summary of Horton article: http://pubrecord.org/torture/6626/murders-guantanamo-exposing-truth/comment-page-1/ Horton article: http://www.harpers.org/archive/2010/01/hbc-90006368 I'd like to add: The Obama Justice Department has weighed in on federal court cases several times asserting State Secrets privileges more aggressively than the Bush administration did. 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jan 22 18:19:05 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:19:05 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Responses to Supreme Court Decision Message-ID: <4B5A5C99.2060901@earthlink.net> A few responses to the Supreme Court decision removing restrictions on corporations giving money to elections. (from Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund) "Whose Rights? Challenging Corporate Power" "A new Supreme Court decision promotes corporate rights at the expense of the rights of citizens. Changing the legal structure itself may be the best way to protect democracy." http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-8 (from New York Times) "Lobbyists Get Potent Weapon in Campaign Finance Ruling" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/22-1 (from New York Times) "Ruling on Spending May Alter Political Terrain" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-4 (from Brennan Center for Justice via the Washington Post) "Campaign Finance Ruling Reflects Supreme Court's Growing Audacity" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-10 (from John Dean) "A Supreme Victory for Special Interests" http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_supreme_victory_for_special_interests_20100121/ (from Robert Weissman, Public Citizen) "Shed a Tear for Our Democracy" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-14 (from Doris 'Granny D' Haddock) "Wisdom at 100: Defend Democracy Against the Corporate State" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/21-11 (from Institute for Policy Studies) "If Corporations Were Human" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22 There probably are more, but I am not interested in looking for more right now. Gerry P.S. I have seen 3 petitions today for the idea of a constitutional amendment to reverse this decision. From paulmaryengstrom at gmail.com Sat Jan 23 17:34:30 2010 From: paulmaryengstrom at gmail.com (Paul Engstrom) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 17:34:30 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fwd: Fw: Help map California's future In-Reply-To: <1101a8-1d2b-4b5b2ba7@outbound.credoaction.com> References: <1101a8-1d2b-4b5b2ba7@outbound.credoaction.com> Message-ID: <20c5fec51001231734l1a6a9798hcc18787da1f8488a@mail.gmail.com> Information and possibility to have more diversity on a comission to designate and plan redistricting of election districts This is possibility for you individually or have your group nominate representative on this redistricting comission. Applications :--Apply at www.wedrawthelines.ca.gov More information at:--www.commoncause.org/redistricting.ca Please forward to other groups needing representation for greater diversity than at present . Thank you Peace for all Paul ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: LiAnna Davis, CREDO Action Date: Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:02 AM Subject: Fw: Help map California's future To: Paul Engstrom Dear Paul, One of the most important facets of elections is how the district lines are drawn. And thanks to a 2008 ballot measure, California's district lines are now the responsibility of citizens like you and me ? and now's your chance to help. We wanted to share this message from our friends at Common Cause about how you can serve on the first Citizens Redistricting Committee. Read below for more details. LiAnna Davis, Campaign Manager CREDO Action from Working Assets Dear Friend, We are calling on all Californians to participate in a once-in-a-decade opportunity to map California's future! For decades, the state legislature designed the districts from which we elect our representatives to the legislature and congress. The result? 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The California Nurses Association and the League of Women Voters support this bill. http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/press-releases/2010/january/with-federal-health-bill-stalled-california-senate-to-vote-on-comprehensive-medicare-for-all-healthcare-reform.html http://ca.lwv.org/lwvc/action/call/2010-01-19sb810.html I called Senator Joe Simitian's office this morning, and the young man there said he did not know how Sen. Simitian will vote. Senator Mark Leno (SF) introduced the bill, and Senators Alquist (San Jose) and Corbett (Hayward) are already on board as co-authors. If you are in Senator Simitian's district (Palo Alto, Los Altos, Stanford, Los Altos Hills, Cupertino, South and SE San Jose, San Gregorio, Davenport, Ben Lomond, Boulder Creek) please call his office at 650.688.6384 to ask that he vote for single payer health care in California, and that he sign on as a co-author. Local Assembly co-authors include the following: Tom Ammiano District 13 San Francisco Jim Beall District 24 San Jose Joe Coto District 23 San Jose Paul Fong District 22 Mountain View Mary Hayashi District 18 Hayward Fiona Ma District 12 San Francisco Ira Ruskin District 21 Los Altos Alberto Torrico District 20 Fremont _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rob.means at electric-bikes.com Mon Jan 25 13:28:50 2010 From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:28:50 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Responses to Supreme Court Decision In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <013401ca9e05$6342d5b0$6701a8c0@INTERBIKE06> When FDR was stymied by a right-wing Supreme Court, he tried to pack it. I think we should unpack the existing Court using impeachment and trial. This is not the first crazy ruling by this 5-4 majority. These guys have a history of bad calls that the public would find objectionable (not the least of which was the decision to stop the vote count in Florida in 2000 so a corrupt wealthy Republican could become President). Some of them lied to Congress during their confirmation hearings. If a prosecutor actually started looking into their shenanigans, I think we could come up with a list of high crimes and misdemeanors. Simply impeaching one would change the balance of the Court. Am I a dreamer, or does this make some sense? Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- -----Original Message----- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:19:05 -0800 From: Gerry Gras Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Responses to Supreme Court Decision To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Message-ID: <4B5A5C99.2060901 at earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed A few responses to the Supreme Court decision removing restrictions on corporations giving money to elections. (from Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund) "Whose Rights? Challenging Corporate Power" "A new Supreme Court decision promotes corporate rights at the expense of the rights of citizens. Changing the legal structure itself may be the best way to protect democracy." http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-8 (from New York Times) "Lobbyists Get Potent Weapon in Campaign Finance Ruling" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/22-1 (from New York Times) "Ruling on Spending May Alter Political Terrain" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-4 (from Brennan Center for Justice via the Washington Post) "Campaign Finance Ruling Reflects Supreme Court's Growing Audacity" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-10 (from John Dean) "A Supreme Victory for Special Interests" http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_supreme_victory_for_special_intere sts_20100121/ (from Robert Weissman, Public Citizen) "Shed a Tear for Our Democracy" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-14 (from Doris 'Granny D' Haddock) "Wisdom at 100: Defend Democracy Against the Corporate State" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/21-11 (from Institute for Policy Studies) "If Corporations Were Human" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22 There probably are more, but I am not interested in looking for more right now. Gerry P.S. I have seen 3 petitions today for the idea of a constitutional amendment to reverse this decision. ------------------------------ From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Jan 25 14:53:15 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:53:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meetings Message-ID: <510897.58293.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello out there. I haven't been able to go to meetings, but I still care what's going on. Are there notes from the January6 meeting? Did we have a cc meeting? What's happening? Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at refpub.com Mon Jan 25 15:40:14 2010 From: wrolley at refpub.com (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:40:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Bay Area Campaign Kickoff for Laura Wells Message-ID: <4B5E2BDE.1000708@refpub.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 25 16:51:46 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:51:46 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] invitation to peace ... Message-ID: <4B5E3CA2.6020004@sbcglobal.net> SAN JOSE PEACE AND JUSTICE CENTER ANNOUNCES ANNUAL AWARD The San Jos? Peace and Justice Center announces the establishment of the Annual Gertrude Welch Peace and Justice Award, dedicated to the memory of citizen activist, Gertrude Welch. The award will honor individuals who have made significant contributions to peace and justice locally and globally. The first recipients of this award are pioneers of the Free Gaza Movement: Greta Berlin, Paul Larudee and Kathy Sheetz. The award ceremony will take place Saturday, January 30, 2010, from 5:30-6:30 pm, at the home of Barby and Vic Ulmer, who were among the original founders of the San Jose Peace Center over 52 years ago. Their address is 13004 Paseo Presada, Saratoga. The award ceremony will be followed by dinner. All guests are invited to bring a dish to share. In an evening fund-raiser, Sharat G. Lin will speak on "The siege of Gaza and why Gaza is a key to peace between Israelis and Palestinians." Donna and Darlene Wallach, Greta Berlin and Paul Larudee will also speak about their experiences and plans for future sailings to Gaza. For more information: 408.297-2299. From fredd at freeshell.org Mon Jan 25 18:46:11 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:46:11 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Responses to Supreme Court Decision In-Reply-To: <013401ca9e05$6342d5b0$6701a8c0@INTERBIKE06> References: <013401ca9e05$6342d5b0$6701a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Message-ID: <4B5E5773.3040800@freeshell.org> Rob, I think that giving corporations citizen status is a constitutional crime. Fred On 1/25/10 1:28 PM, Rob Means wrote: > When FDR was stymied by a right-wing Supreme Court, he tried to pack it. > I think we should unpack the existing Court using impeachment and trial. > > This is not the first crazy ruling by this 5-4 majority. These guys > have a history of bad calls that the public would find objectionable > (not the least of which was the decision to stop the vote count in > Florida in 2000 so a corrupt wealthy Republican could become President). > Some of them lied to Congress during their confirmation hearings. If a > prosecutor actually started looking into their shenanigans, I think we > could come up with a list of high crimes and misdemeanors. Simply > impeaching one would change the balance of the Court. > > Am I a dreamer, or does this make some sense? > > Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters > 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com > 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 > Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > > > -----Original Message----- > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:19:05 -0800 > From: Gerry Gras > Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Responses to Supreme Court Decision > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Message-ID:<4B5A5C99.2060901 at earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > A few responses to the Supreme Court decision > removing restrictions on corporations giving money > to elections. > > (from Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund) > "Whose Rights? Challenging Corporate Power" > "A new Supreme Court decision promotes corporate rights at the expense > of the rights of citizens. Changing the legal structure itself may be > the best way to protect democracy." > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-8 > > (from New York Times) > "Lobbyists Get Potent Weapon in Campaign Finance Ruling" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/22-1 > > (from New York Times) > "Ruling on Spending May Alter Political Terrain" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-4 > > (from Brennan Center for Justice via the Washington Post) > "Campaign Finance Ruling Reflects Supreme Court's Growing Audacity" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-10 > > (from John Dean) > "A Supreme Victory for Special Interests" > http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_supreme_victory_for_special_intere > sts_20100121/ > > (from Robert Weissman, Public Citizen) > "Shed a Tear for Our Democracy" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-14 > > (from Doris 'Granny D' Haddock) > "Wisdom at 100: Defend Democracy Against the Corporate State" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/21-11 > > (from Institute for Policy Studies) > "If Corporations Were Human" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22 > > There probably are more, but I am not interested in looking > for more right now. > > Gerry > > P.S. I have seen 3 petitions today for the idea of > a constitutional amendment to reverse this decision. > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > From MLause at cinci.rr.com Mon Jan 25 18:54:41 2010 From: MLause at cinci.rr.com (Mark A. Lause) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:54:41 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Responses to Supreme Court Decision In-Reply-To: <4B5E5773.3040800@freeshell.org> References: <013401ca9e05$6342d5b0$6701a8c0@INTERBIKE06> <4B5E5773.3040800@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <5D13629D8C884B2CA6EAD6F37881B21B@HewDownstairs> Correct across the board. Corporate personhood is nuts and the court should be impeached. However, if you can't get the Democrats to pass a bill when they had a 60-40 majority in the Senate, impeachment is as likely as voluntary self-restraint on carbon emmissions. ML From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Jan 26 13:59:20 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:59:20 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election Reform [was Re: Responses to Supreme Court Decision] References: <4B5A5C99.2060901@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B5F65B8.3060006@earthlink.net> About Election Reform ... First, I took a quick look at cfer.org and fairvote.org and did not see anything about the items below. Did I miss something? ... Yes Magazine has some suggestions http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/10-ways-to-stop-corporate-dominance-of-politics ... Public Financing of Campaigns ... for California: Yes Fair Elections (proposition on ballot this June) http://www.yesfairelections.org/ for the U.S.: Fair Elections Now (bill in Congress) http://www.fairelectionsnow.org/ ... Petitions in response to Supreme Court decision: Public Citizen http://www.citizen.org/ http://dontgetrolled.org People for the American Way http://site.pfaw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=media_2010_01_pfaw_calls_for_constitutional_amendment Voter Action http://movetoamend.org/ Free Speech for People http://www.freespeechforpeople.org/ Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > A few responses to the Supreme Court decision > removing restrictions on corporations giving money > to elections. > > > (from Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund) > "Whose Rights? Challenging Corporate Power" > "A new Supreme Court decision promotes corporate rights at the expense > of the rights of citizens. Changing the legal structure itself may be > the best way to protect democracy." > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-8 > > (from New York Times) > "Lobbyists Get Potent Weapon in Campaign Finance Ruling" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/22-1 > > (from New York Times) > "Ruling on Spending May Alter Political Terrain" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-4 > > (from Brennan Center for Justice via the Washington Post) > "Campaign Finance Ruling Reflects Supreme Court's Growing Audacity" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-10 > > (from John Dean) > "A Supreme Victory for Special Interests" > http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_supreme_victory_for_special_interests_20100121/ > > (from Robert Weissman, Public Citizen) > "Shed a Tear for Our Democracy" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-14 > > (from Doris 'Granny D' Haddock) > "Wisdom at 100: Defend Democracy Against the Corporate State" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/21-11 > > (from Institute for Policy Studies) > "If Corporations Were Human" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22 > > There probably are more, but I am not interested in looking > for more right now. > > > Gerry > > P.S. I have seen 3 petitions today for the idea of > a constitutional amendment to reverse this decision. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > From jims at greens.org Tue Jan 26 15:59:02 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:59:02 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Election Reform [was Re: Responses to Supreme Court Decision] In-Reply-To: <4B5F65B8.3060006@earthlink.net> References: <4B5A5C99.2060901@earthlink.net> <4B5F65B8.3060006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4B5F81C6.10905@greens.org> What you missed is that CfER and FairVote are voting system reform orgs and do not deal with the finance issues. Try http://www.opensecrets.org/ Jim On 1/26/2010 1:59 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > About Election Reform ... > > First, I took a quick look at cfer.org and fairvote.org > and did not see anything about the items below. Did I > miss something? > > ... > > Yes Magazine has some suggestions > http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/10-ways-to-stop-corporate-dominance-of-politics > > ... > > Public Financing of Campaigns ... > > for California: > Yes Fair Elections > (proposition on ballot this June) > http://www.yesfairelections.org/ > > for the U.S.: > Fair Elections Now > (bill in Congress) > http://www.fairelectionsnow.org/ > > ... > > Petitions in response to Supreme Court decision: > > Public Citizen > http://www.citizen.org/ > http://dontgetrolled.org > > People for the American Way > http://site.pfaw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=media_2010_01_pfaw_calls_for_constitutional_amendment > > Voter Action > http://movetoamend.org/ > > Free Speech for People > http://www.freespeechforpeople.org/ > > Gerry > > > > Gerry Gras wrote: > >> A few responses to the Supreme Court decision >> removing restrictions on corporations giving money >> to elections. >> >> >> (from Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund) >> "Whose Rights? Challenging Corporate Power" >> "A new Supreme Court decision promotes corporate rights at the expense >> of the rights of citizens. Changing the legal structure itself may be >> the best way to protect democracy." >> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-8 >> >> (from New York Times) >> "Lobbyists Get Potent Weapon in Campaign Finance Ruling" >> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/22-1 >> >> (from New York Times) >> "Ruling on Spending May Alter Political Terrain" >> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/01/21-4 >> >> (from Brennan Center for Justice via the Washington Post) >> "Campaign Finance Ruling Reflects Supreme Court's Growing Audacity" >> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-10 >> >> (from John Dean) >> "A Supreme Victory for Special Interests" >> http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_supreme_victory_for_special_interests_20100121/ >> >> (from Robert Weissman, Public Citizen) >> "Shed a Tear for Our Democracy" >> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-14 >> >> (from Doris 'Granny D' Haddock) >> "Wisdom at 100: Defend Democracy Against the Corporate State" >> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/21-11 >> >> (from Institute for Policy Studies) >> "If Corporations Were Human" >> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22 >> >> There probably are more, but I am not interested in looking >> for more right now. >> >> >> Gerry >> >> P.S. I have seen 3 petitions today for the idea of >> a constitutional amendment to reverse this decision. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From alexcathy at aol.com Tue Jan 26 17:29:21 2010 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:29:21 -0500 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] California Democratic Party Hack du Jour: Inglewood Mayor Roosevelt Dorn Message-ID: <8CC6D07496A3F5C-57B8-3AC7@webmail-m079.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, The California Democratic Party Hack du Jour isMayor Roosevelt Dorn of Inglewood. Inglewood is a traditionallyworking-class suburb of Los Angeles and the onetime home of the LosAngeles Lakers which relocated thanks to the (of course)taxpayer-subsidized Staples Center in downtown L.A. Notice howeven now the corporate MSM praises the "perp" as a "tough guy" judgewho "kept juveniles on probation for longer than other judges" and for"delivering on his pledge to make the city more attractive toretailers." In fact, Mayor Dorn was a shameless flack for Wal-Mart andevery other "big box" chain. Inglewood has no term limits, andso, if this guy had just kept his hands out of the cookie jar he mighthave been 'Mayor-for-Life.' It's another example of my reality: In LosAngeles some of the worse political hacks look like me and why we need the Green Party as the 2nd Party in the big cities. Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Published by the Los Angeles Times, January 26, 2010 Mayor Roosevelt Dorn of Inglewood Pleads Guilty to Corruption by Jack Leonard and Ari B. Bloomekatz Roosevelt F. Dorn, who earned acclaim and criticism as a juvenile courtjudge and was an equally polarizing figure in more than a decade asInglewood mayor, pleaded guilty Monday to a public corruption charge. Mayor Roosevelt Dorn of Inglewood, pleaded guilty to a public corruption charge. (Photo: LATimes). The plea ends a political career that saw significant drops incrime, as well as Inglewood's attempt to bounce back from the loss ofthe Lakers and the Kings. But while supporters hailed Dorn'sleadership, critics said he ran the city as a fiefdom. Dorn, who stepped down Sunday evening, is barred from holdingpublic office for the rest of his life as part of his guilty plea to amisdemeanor conflict-of-interest charge. He was also placed onprobation for two years and fined $1,000. Dorn entered his plea asprospective jurors were set to be called for trial in connection withhis acceptance of a $500,000 loan through a city housing program. As a judge, Dorn won praise for his tough-love approach towardyoung offenders. But others viewed him as imperious, accusing him ofstretching the law to fit his personal mission. The 74-year-old juristdisplayed the same zeal in trying to reverse the slide of a city miredin debt and shedding retail businesses. He developed a reputation fordoing things his own way. Prosecutors alleged that Dorn betrayed his constituents in ascheme that allowed him to benefit from a low-interest city loanprogram he helped extend to elected officials. "He got greedy," said Deputy Dist. Atty. Max Huntsman. "Heused every tool in his considerable arsenal as a lawyer and formerjudge to convince people that he was entitled to this public money." . . . 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From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Jan 27 11:30:10 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:30:10 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Michael Moore says Dems are "disgusting" "wimps", "Republican Lite" Message-ID: The thread at DemocraticUnderground about it was quickly voted to the top of the page, with many Dems expressing support for Moore's views. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7574062&mesg_id=7574062 In a recent interview with Amy Goodman, Moore warns that the corporatist propaganda machine is poised to manipulate the opinions of an uneducated electorate. http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/26/michael_moore_on_haiti_the_supreme A short Youtube with sound bites and quotes is here: http://www.youtube.com/user/punxsutawneybarney#p/u/0/0iIknL6t8yE Moore reports that the Obama administration can not respond to the National Nurses Union's offer of 12,000 nurses ready to go to Haiti. http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/ You've heard of "too big to fail"? Our government is "too big to succeed," Moore says. With 40 million functionally illiterate adults in the USA, and an official unemployment rate of 15% (meaning 30% in his county), people are hurting. They are susceptible to propaganda, Moore warns; the corporatist corps are experts at manipulating public opinion, and they're ten miles ahead of us. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eameece at sfo.com Wed Jan 27 12:30:42 2010 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:30:42 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Michael Moore says Dems are "disgusting" "wimps", "Republican Lite" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55622C8701164CDF9126656F939A7118@eameecePC> Excellent links; thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Good To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:30 AM Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Michael Moore says Dems are "disgusting" "wimps","Republican Lite" The thread at DemocraticUnderground about it was quickly voted to the top of the page, with many Dems expressing support for Moore's views. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7574062&mesg_id=7574062 In a recent interview with Amy Goodman, Moore warns that the corporatist propaganda machine is poised to manipulate the opinions of an uneducated electorate. http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/26/michael_moore_on_haiti_the_supreme A short Youtube with sound bites and quotes is here: http://www.youtube.com/user/punxsutawneybarney#p/u/0/0iIknL6t8yE Moore reports that the Obama administration can not respond to the National Nurses Union's offer of 12,000 nurses ready to go to Haiti. http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/ You've heard of "too big to fail"? Our government is "too big to succeed," Moore says. With 40 million functionally illiterate adults in the USA, and an official unemployment rate of 15% (meaning 30% in his county), people are hurting. They are susceptible to propaganda, Moore warns; the corporatist corps are experts at manipulating public opinion, and they're ten miles ahead of us. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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In it I talk about some of the important steps Congress should take to respond to the continuing economic crisis. It by no means covers everything, but I thought you?d like to read it. As always, our Congressional District has a key role to play in our nation?s recovery. A year ago, the American people turned to a new president and the promise of hope, much as flowers turn to the sun. But hope is only truly meaningful when it is rooted in reality. It is time for a reality check. As the President prepares to deliver his State of the Union Address, we need not just optimism, but a basis for that optimism and a belief that it will translate into action. Travel around this wonderful country, as I have been fortunate to do, and Americans speak with one voice about our hopes and fears. We want jobs ? meaningful work ? that will allow us to provide for our family. We want a home ? safe and secure ? that will allow us to raise our family. We want our children to have a better life than we had. We want a future that doesn?t saddle us with debt. And Americans want a government that works. We don?t want government to abandon us. We don?t want government to do everything for us. We want government to work, and give us a fair chance to do for ourselves. In the past year, the underpinnings of our nation have crumbled and fallen away and it is as though we?re standing on a glass floor with a million cracks in it and nothing beneath. The President has done well to prevent a complete economic catastrophe and I believe this Congress has acted with unprecedented speed and breadth to enact legislation that will bring back economic growth and promote innovative new industries. But we cannot forget the words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. when he described ?the fierce urgency of now.? I?m privileged to represent the restlessly creative Silicon Valley, and the phone calls coming into my office are from people who say, ?I?m down to my last few dollars. I need help now.? So, I look to the President to deliver the word that we hear that message, that we heed it and that we are prepared to act -- both the White House and Congress ? to provide immediate aid and comfort. There are some things we can do right now. Extend bankruptcy relief to homeowners facing foreclosure. Allow them to restructure their debts, remain in their homes and give them a fighting chance to work their way out of their financial ditch. Get the banks to loan to small businesses, which are the backbone of our national economy. All over the country, school districts, community colleges, cities, counties and public agencies, such as transit districts, have lost millions of dollars due to the collapse of such once-bedrock institutions as Lehman Brothers. These were sound, conservative investments of public funds, not risky flights of profit-hungry fancy and these are troubled assets just as surely as any bank?s. Extend the TARP funds to these public entities. A million dollars is small change in Washington, but to a school district or a county government, it is the difference between layoffs or saving some jobs and creating others. When Franklin Roosevelt took office in the depths of the Depression and announced his 100-day plan for turning the nation around, he was asked what he would do if his plan didn?t work. He famously replied, ?Then we?ll try something else.? Why not borrow an idea from FDR? Put federal dollars directly into the pockets of American workers and rebuild our county and state parks and repair our infrastructure. Make the commitment to today and I can guarantee you that in California and Silicon Valley we are committed to tomorrow?s growth. California is poised to lead the nation in the design and construction of the first American high-speed rail network. High-speed rail will revolutionize this country the way the National Highway System did in the 1950s and 1960s. Federal dollars to this project will mean an entirely new American industry, American-made products and new jobs that will build everything from the wheels and the rails down to the tiniest bolt. And it will draw the best of our young minds to a transformative industry. Through the stimulus package and the American Clean Energy and Security Act, billions of dollars in federal money will create a million new startups in science, technology and the next, new, previously unimagined thing. In my home district, this is our everyday life and dozens of burgeoning companies at the cutting edge of green and clean technology are poised for an explosion in innovation and healthy, sustainable economic growth. There is reason for hope. The foundation has been laid for the next American Renaissance in innovation and invention. This is our innate optimism ? uniquely American and distinctively on display in Silicon Valley. The President captured that spirit a year ago. He is gifted in his ability to imbue all of us with that spirit and he has proven, through his unprecedented campaign skills at grass-roots communication, that he understands the networks that interlace our lives. He must put those talents to use again. He can and must do it with the promise not just of a better tomorrow, but a better today. Let me know what you think. I always value your comments, critiques and suggestions. Most gratefully, Anna G. Eshoo Member of Congress DISTRICT OFFICE 698 Emerson Street Palo Alto, California 94301 (650) 323-2984 (408) 245-2339 (831) 335-2020 (650) 323-3498 fax WASHINGTON, D.C. OFFICE 205 Cannon Building Washington, D.C. 20515 (202) 225-8104 (202) 225-8890 fax WEB SITE http://eshoo.house.gov Facebook Youtube If you wish to contact me, please do so at http://eshoo.house.gov. Please do NOT reply to this message. If you do not wish to receive future emails from Congresswoman Anna Eshoo, unsubscribe here. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jan 27 17:30:34 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:30:34 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Obama on KPFA at 6 PM Message-ID: <4B60E8BA.1020908@earthlink.net> Obama's on KPFA at 6 PM. A half hour from now. Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jan 27 17:45:21 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:45:21 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] [Fwd: A better way to watch tonight's speech] Message-ID: <4B60EC31.4080702@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry P.S. There is an RSVP question which may mean that one can only participate if one is in their database and RSVP's yes. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: A better way to watch tonight's speech Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:05:24 -0800 From: "Justin Ruben, MoveOn.org Political Action" To: "Gerald S. Gras" Dear MoveOn member, Want to rate President Obama's State of the Union address tonight?and have your opinions sent to the media in real-time? We've built a new system that works just like the dial-testing does on CNN or MSNBC. But instead of a handpicked group in a TV studio, our live-rating system will be powered by MoveOn members all across America. It's a great way to participate in tonight's speech, and make sure progressives are getting their voices heard. Want to join in tonight at 9 p.m. ET / 6 p.m. PT? 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This email was sent to From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jan 27 20:33:41 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:33:41 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] "Presidential Assassinations of US Citizens" Message-ID: <4B6113A5.2050504@earthlink.net> Glenn Greenwald refers to a part of a story in the Washington Post. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/27-9 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/26/AR2010012604239.html?hpid=topnews From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 28 18:35:31 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:35:31 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] county polling update Message-ID: <4B624973.5090407@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ January 26, 2010 To GPCA County Council Members and other GPCA activists From Warner Bloomberg, County Polling Coordinator Re County Polling Updates The County Polling on ballot measures has been updated with the latest proposals that qualified for the ballot. History: Jan. 1 -- The first polling is circulated with three ballot measures (2 on Constitutional Convention + 1 on Open Primary). Jan. 18 -- Polling updated with one addition (Public Utility Voting Threshold) Jan. 26 (this update) -- One addition (Auto Insurance) The current County Polling instructions and reports contains all five measures and can be downloaded at http://cagreens.org/plenary/packet.html The last two added measures were reviewed by the Green Issues Working Group that recommends the GPCA oppose both. ** PLEASE PARTICIPATE ** The next General Assembly of Delegates is scheduled for March 6th-7th in Santa Clara County. Having County Polling at this time allows the GPCA to take positions earlier than has been usual practice concerning June Primary ballot measures. If GPCA positions are not decided by County Polling before the Plenary, the undecided items will be placed on the Plenary Agenda by previously adopted procedures. To the extent decisions on these ballot measures can be made by County Polling, agenda time will be created for other items. Please be sure that your county participates by submitting votes by Wednesday, March 3, 2010 (also the last day to register and submit delegate lists for the Plenary). Detailed instruction are in the 'County Polling instructions and reports' document. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jan 29 17:41:56 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:41:56 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] =?utf-8?q?=5BFwd=3A_A_Poem_of_Revolution_by_Ari?= =?utf-8?b?ZiBWaXFhciDigJMgTGFob3JlLAlQYWtpc3Rhbl0=?= Message-ID: <4B638E64.7010602@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry More poems available at: http://strugglemagazine.net/Poems%20from%20Pakistan.htm -------- Original Message -------- Subject: A Poem of Revolution by Arif Viqar ? Lahore, Pakistan Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:30:54 -0800 (PST) From: arif viqar To: thepoetarif at yahoo.com Please circulate the poem of revolution among your party members ? Thanks. Arif Viqar (Philosopher/Poet) ? Lahore, Pakistan. America?s Game of Making Money By Aid money America tries To heal our wounds That are inflicted On the people Of The third world countries On Our world?s countries By The bullets and the guns That America sells To the world To the third world countries To Make money Making The money Is America?s Objective Death by guns Bleeding of the wounds The by-products Of America making Of The money What is it there Of and in, money That makes America Kill so many Is it the power That comes with money But America Is already the most Powerful country Then why does it Need more money Is it the greed?s obsession Of the rich of America To get even more and more richer Riches earned by polluting Destroying the forests, trees The seas, world?s resources Killing of the worlds people All in the American game of the American rich Of making, more and more money Arif Viqar From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 29 19:56:14 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:56:14 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] GPCA anniversary celebration Message-ID: <4B63ADDE.2090903@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Green Party of California: 1990 to the present Celebrate Green History ? Look Ahead February 6th, 2010 ? 12pm to 9pm ? Berkeley ? 20 Years Anniversary of Founding of GPCA on February 4th, 1990 ? 25 years since Charlene Spretnak's "Green Politics: the Global Promise " Saturday, February 6th ? 12pm to 9pm ? Donations accepted Berkeley Fellowship of Unitarian Universalists , 1924 Cedar Street, at Bonita Avenue /Site of the East Bay Green Alliance founding meeting in 1985 - the first CA Green local/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All Day: Make a video, tell your story of when and why you joined the Green Party Daytime: Workshop/Strategy/Press Conference ? Noon: Socializing, bring your Green Party signs, banners, literature for display ? 1:00 pm: Greening California 2010 Election Strategy/Media Open Session, featuring - present & past GPCA candidates for Statewide Constitutional Office - 2010 GPCA candidates for State Legislative Office - present & past California Green Officeholders - media training - ballot measures ? 3:30pm: Press Conference Nightime: History/Party/Dinner/Story Telling/See old friends, make new ones ? 4:30pm: Panels/discussions/recollections/videos of GPCA History , including - the pre-party years, 1985-1990 - founding and qualification ballot drive of the Green Party of California - early statewide candidacies - Green city council majorities in Arcata and Sebastopol - Charlene Sptreknak video interview, call-in - share your own stories Confirmed participants from the party's early days currently include Sara Amir, Barbara Blong, Hank Chapot, Regina Endrizzi, Mike Feinstein, Margaret Garcia, Dan Hamburg, Joe Louis Hoffman, Greg Jan, Mitra and others ? 7:00pm: Vegetarian dinner included w/$17 donation or more Sliding scale donation $8-$25; space is limited Please RSVP to strategyretreat at cagreens.org to guarantee space and let us know if you plan to be there for dinner so we know how much food to order Sponsored by the Green Party of California's Campaigns & Candidates Working Group and co-hosted by the Green Party of Alameda County From carolineyacoub at att.net Sat Jan 30 02:35:27 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 02:35:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] anniversary Message-ID: <926664.45751.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is anybody going to the anniversary celebration? I would love to send the multilingual banner along. Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: --static--bg_snowblue_1.gif Type: image/gif Size: 7874 bytes Desc: not available URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 30 16:45:19 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:45:19 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] plenary proposal packet available Message-ID: <4B64D29F.1040805@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The proposal packet for the March 6-7 General Assembly in San Jose is now available for downloading from the plenary web site: http://www.cagreens.org/plenary/ This packet contains proposals, meeting schedule and county delegate allocation. Please read it ASAP. If you have concerns about any proposal, please send them to the people listed as the contact persons and/or sponsors *before* the meeting begins. You will need the common password for access to the proposal packet. Please contact your County Council or Regional Representative if you don't have it. The logistics packet will be available within one week. The logistics packet contains information on the meeting site, housing, registration and host contacts. Contact the Agenda Team (agenda-team at cagreens.org ) with any questions. Online registration and delegate pages will open when the logistics packet is released. Counties are required to submit their list of General Assembly delegates online. Use the Delegates link on the plenary page cited above. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT: All delegate names must be submitted before the meeting. Due to past problems, the Accreditation Committee will no longer accept delegate name submissions at the meeting. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Online registration and delegate submission pages will close on Wednesday Mar. 3. You may participate in this important event in a number of ways: At the General Assembly -- as a delegate or a observer in the decision-making plenary sessions and/or =- as participant in working group, standing committee and/or caucus meetings Before the General Assembly -- with a working group or standing committee that is generating a proposal -- discussing the agenda proposals in your county and on-line. We hope to see you in San Jose! From vdf at juno.com Sat Jan 30 17:15:17 2010 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 01:15:17 GMT Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] meetings Message-ID: <20100130.171517.15918.1@webmail02.vgs.untd.com> I am interested in knowing what's going on, too, even though I have not been able to make it to meetings lately. Valerie Face Santa Clara Please note: message attached ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=LhFG8xQAAXnxLYFyqcb8CQAAJ1BSv5BgKRMxjoB2-H05qqW1AAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEUgAAAAA= -------------- next part -------------- Hello out there. I haven't been able to go to meetings, but I still care what's going on. Are there notes from the January6 meeting? Did we have a cc meeting? What's happening? Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 30 17:30:02 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:30:02 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] clean money - connecticut Message-ID: <4B64DD1A.3010400@sbcglobal.net> Here is an excerpt from an older (Oct 1, 2009) posting *Connecticut * The Connecticut Green Party recently won a significant decision against Connecticut's public campaign finance system, which the court ruled was unfairly awarding public finances to major party candidates while burdening the Green Party and other parties with inordinate obstacles to public funds. A U.S. District Court judge ruled that Connecticut's public financing scheme had created a "discriminatory burden" for minor parties and had unfairly inflated the public campaign funds that major parties were awarded. "We're very pleased", said Mike DeRosa, co-chair of the Connecticut Green Party, that "the court ruled that real campaign finance reform requires a level playing field." The Green Party of the United States and our state Green Parties need your support to continue working to level the playing field in court. We don't take money from real estate companies, private health insurance providers, or lobbyists. In fact, we don't take ANY corporate money because we think corporate money in politics is wrong. If you want to help us work for fairer elections, please help us today. Your donation to the Green Party will help us make sure we have a strong Green Party today and into the future. From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sat Jan 30 20:51:09 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:51:09 -0800 Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] January minutes Message-ID: <4B650C3D.9090908@truffula.sj.ca.us> These are the notes I took Jan 6. http://www.cagreens.org/it/cls/jan-minutes.html From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Jan 31 12:26:17 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:26:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sosfbay-discuss] Fw: Obama asks for advice. Doctors arrested for giving advise to Obama Message-ID: <222397.5909.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: shane que hee Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 3:37:53 AM Subject: Obama asks for advice. Doctors arrested for giving advise to Obama >Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:47:53 -0800 (PST) >From: Geraldo Cienmarcos >Subject: Obama asks for advice. Doctors arrested for giving advise to Obama > >This is what President Obama said in his State of the Union address: > >"But if anyone from either party has a better approach that will >bring down premiums, bring down the deficit, cover the uninsured, >strengthen Medicare for seniors, and stop insurance company abuses, >let me know. Let me know. Let me know. I'm eager to see it." > >-- -- -- > >Published on Friday, January 29, 2010 by SinglePayerAction.org > >Single Payer Docs Arrested Outside Baltimore Hotel While Obama >Speaking to Republicans > >by Russell Mokhiber > >Two single payer doctors were arrested this morning outside the >Renaissance Baltimore Harborplace Hotel where President Obama was >scheduled to speak to a retreat of House Republicans. > >Dr. Margaret Flowers and Dr. Carol Paris were carrying a sign that >said: Just Letting You Know: Medicare for All. > >"We were on the hotel property holding our sign," Dr. Flowers said. >"The Secret Service said we had to go across the street. We said we >would go across the street if our letter was delivered to the >President. The Secret Service said that wasn't possible. They said >if we didn't go across the street we would be arrested. We refused >to leave because we didn't want to continue to be excluded, >marginalized and ignored. 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Please post proposed additions, deletions or other changes by Tuesday. Warner GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY Draft Agenda for Monthly General Membership Meeting February 3, 2010 San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA (Near 7th and San Fernando) 6:30 pm ? Eat and chat 7:30 pm ? Begin meeting Select Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher(s), Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting Introductions and Announcements ? Collect signatures for statewide GPCA candidates? petitions (15 Minutes) Treasurer?s Report (5 Minutes) Regional Rep and Bylaws and consensus process ? Jim Doyle ( 3 Minutes) Report(s) on status of County Council candidates; Recruit volunteers to help gather signatures; Status report on GPSCC voter registration database (10 Minutes) Report on upcoming tabling events; Report on status of tabling materials and supplies; Designation of seed planters and distribution of remaining seed packets for germinations (10 Minutes) Update on plans for next Food for Thought event (end of February to help collect signatures for County Council candidates) (5 Minutes) Discuss carpooling for Candidate Training and GP 20-Year Anniversary in Berkeley, CA Saturday, February 6, 2010 (5 Minutes) County Polling -- Warner Bloomberg (30 Minutes) Decision making (4 votes for each ballot measure): 1. Tax increase exemption for earthquake retrofitting real property improvements; 2. ?Open Primary? for partisan offices elections (aka kill small political parties); 3. Public Financing Pilot Project for Secretary of State elections; 4. 2/3rds public vote requirement to form local energy committions; and 5. Revise present insurance rate protections to allow consideration of lapses in previous insurance coverage Plenary Planning Reports: Food Committee; Local Hosts organizing; Set-up and other volunteers needs; Ground rules for plenary reimbursements (12 Minutes) Recruit and tentatively appoint Delegates and Alternates to March 6-7, 2010 Plenary; Schedule Agenda Packet review meeting (10 Minutes) (1 Hour 45 Minutes Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) ### -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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