From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 1 15:01:32 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:01:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] November ballot propositions Message-ID: <4C2D103C.7030301@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fellow Greens, County polling on Ballot Measures for November will be beginning no later than July 26th. Before polling starts, we need volunteers to research and create a short report on what the Green Party position should be on each Measure. We have the first 3 weeks of July in which to do this research. Then, we have the month of August in which to conduct county polling. The ideal would be for all of our counties to read the ballot reports (via email), research on your own if so desired, and then send us your county position on each so we don't spend Plenary time on the Measures. Richard Gomez and Tian Harter had both kindly offered to coordinate our polling efforts at the last Plenary. (Thank you guys!). Please email reply to all of us on which Propositions you are interested in researching (there are 10) and when we can expect your report. A short description of each Measure follows. Reply addresses: nate136_66 at yahoo.com, tnharter at aceweb.com, earthworks_works at yahoo.com Thank you for the help - we really need you! Kendra Gonzales CCWG Co-Coordinator 805-419-4623 *(Thanks to Shane for getting this to us) * Ten propositions have qualified for the Nov. 2, 2010, general election ballot. One, a water bond, was placed on the ballot by the legislature. The other nine were proposed by voter initiative. Six of the propositions deal with tax and budget issues; two are about redistricting. Although the deadline for qualifying new initiatives has passed, the legislature could still add to the list (or revise or delete the water bond). Proposition numbers have yet to be assigned. The propositions are: *WATER BOND* -- Authorizes $11.14 billion in bonds for state water projects, including storage, conservation, groundwater protection, and recycling. *MARIJUANA* -- Allows people 21 or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use, subject to regulation and taxation. Prohibits use in public or when minors are present. Prohibits providing marijuana to anyone under 21. *CONGRESSIONAL REDISTRICTING* -- Transfers redistricting authority for congressional districts from the state legislature to the Citizens Redistricting Commission that was established by Proposition 11 (2008). *LOCAL GOVERNMENT* -- Prohibits state from shifting, taking, borrowing, or restricting use of revenues dedicated to local government services, community redevelopment projects, and transportation projects and services. Prohibits the state from delaying distribution of tax revenues for these purposes. *SURCHARGE FOR PARKS* -- Establishes $18 annual state vehicle license surcharge to be used solely to operate, maintain, and repair the state park system, and protect wildlife and natural resources. Grants free admission to all state parks to vehicles paying the surcharge. Exempts commercial vehicles, trailers, and trailer coaches. *SUSPENSION OF GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION LAW* -- Suspends the state's greenhouse gas reduction law until California's unemployment rate has been 5.5 percent or less for four consecutive quarters. Suspends requirements for increased renewable energy and cleaner fuel, as well as mandatory emission reporting and fee requirements for major polluters such as power plants and oil refineries. *CORPORATE TAXES* -- Repeals recent legislation which lowered corporate taxes by allowing businesses to shift operating losses to prior tax years; expanding the time in which losses can be shifted; allowing businesses to share tax credits with affiliated corporations; and allowing multi-state companies to use a sales-based income calculation rather than one based on property, payroll, and sales. *2/3 VOTE FOR LEVIES AND CHARGES* -- Increases to two-thirds, from a simple majority, the vote required for the legislature to adopt state levies and charges, with limited exceptions. Requires two-thirds vote of the public for local levies and charges, with limited exceptions. *MAJORITY VOTE FOR STATE BUDGET* -- Lowers the legislative vote required for adopting a state budget from two-thirds to a simple majority. *REPEAL OF REDISTRICTING COMMISSION* -- Eliminates the Citizens Redistricting Commission that was established by Proposition 11 (2008), and returns the job of drawing state legislative and board of equalization districts to the Legislature. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Jul 2 15:49:24 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:49:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Floating Island from Waste Pacific Plastic? Message-ID: Can I interest anyone in some prospective floating real estate? Is the ocean ready for homo polymerus aquaticus? http://www.recycledisland.com/ _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. 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This commentary on the Gulf oil spill by Martin Zehr, including some "politically incorrect" truths about the record of state-owned oil like PEMEX in Mexico is a beautiful example of a fresh progressive perspective. Alex WalkerLos Angeles Greens = = = = = = = = = = Posted on California Greening, June 19, 2010. Rescue the Gulf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by Martin Zehr There is an axiom utilized by many people that if you don't have anything constructive to add politically just up the ante of your favorite political party or publicly posture your indignation and scream louder than everyone else. People who advocate nationalization of BP are folks who come to the disaster with their own preconceived notions of the importance of public (read "governmental") control and jump in at every opportunity to present the same solution for every social ill or disaster. These folks would do well to learn that priorities need to be addressed in resolving any given situation. They would also do better to learn from previous experiences in regards to their proposed agenda. In the case of the BP deep water oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico, it would benefit all to recall the example of the PEMEX gusher in the Gulf in 1979. This nationalized oil company has the current record for the worst pollution of the Gulf that the Deep Horizon is trying to surpass. No claims were paid by PEMEX for the damages done to coastal areas and aquatic life. Zero. We might also recall the PEMEX gasoline leak that exploded in Guadalajara in 1992. The explosions crushed to death 206 people; injured 1,460 people; damaged 1,148 buildings; and destroyed 350 businesses and 505 vehicles. Eight government officials were jailed. In 1984, 500 people were killed by a natural gas explosion at PEMEX facilities in Mexico City. One thing we accept as Greens is that "Money cannot buy everything". It cannot buy dead zones in the Gulf and transform them. It cannot restore the tidal basin and marshland ecosystems. It cannot replace the dead flora and fauna and it cannot bring back the sea life that so many are dependent on for their livelihood. The point right now is to demonstrate the capability of cleanup NOW. The point is to utilize the resources of the world community and send a 9-1-1 for the Gulf. The point now is to stop the gusher. . . . As stated before, we have seen the failure of "government regulation". We have seen the failure of "Drill, baby, drill!" What we have not seen are the political, administrative, technical and scientific resources of the world focused on our common problem. We have seen how Nigeria has failed to update pipelines to prevent spills and how this has impacted on the people and the environment. We have seen how oil was spilled into the Persian Gulf by Saddam Hussein and oil wells were blown up in the war for oil. We have seen how BP is unable to put the oil genie back in the bottle, as the worst case scenario becomes reality. . . . This is how Greens are distinguished from the duopoly parties. We already know the problems that we can anticipate in the future and are prepared to develop the mechanisms needed to maintain the earth's eco-systems. We present a distinct voice in the political arena of the United States. It?s time to listen, to learn and to act with decisiveness. Solutions won?t be any easier in the future, but at the least, we can work on them without the disproportional influence of the corporations shaping policies and tying the hands of public officials. Read More and leave a comment at: California Greening, http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/06/rescue-gulf.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The bill protects the American people so they are never again victimized by Wall Street?s reckless behavior which brought our economy to its knees, wreaking havoc across the country with over 8 million jobs lost and a $17 trillion loss in net worth. It makes the most sweeping and comprehensive reforms to our financial system since the Great Depression. The Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act: ? Ends taxpayer-funded bailouts because of Wall Street?s risky decisions and greed: The legislation clearly states that taxpayers will bear no cost for liquidating large, interconnected financial companies; ? Protects families and small businesses from abusive lending practices: The legislation creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau that will ensure bank loans, mortgages, and credit card agreements are fair, affordable, understandable, and transparent; ? Stops banks from becoming ?too big to fail?: The legislation creates the Financial Stability Oversight Council which is charged with identifying and responding to emerging risks throughout the financial system. The Council will make recommendations to the Federal Reserve for increasingly strict rules for capital, leverage, liquidity, risk management and other requirements as companies grow in size and complexity, with significant requirements on companies that pose risks to the financial system; ? Eliminates grave threats to financial stability in the U.S.: The Financial Stability Oversight Council can also break up large, complex companies by requiring them to divest some of their holdings -- but only as a last resort; ? Requires hedge funds and private equity funds to register with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which will have more enforcement power and funding; ? Eliminates excessively risky practices that led to the financial collapse: The bill enhances oversight and transparency for credit rating agencies; ? Limits bank executive and CEO risky pay practices: The bill addresses egregious executive compensation that jeopardizes the safety and soundness of banks. It also allows a ?say on pay? for shareholders, requiring independent directors on compensation committees; ? Assists minority-owned and women-owned businesses: The bill establishes an Office of Minority and Women Inclusion at federal banking and securities regulatory agencies that will, among other things, address employment and contracting diversity matters. The office will coordinate technical assistance to and seek diversity in the workforce of the regulators; ? Prevents predatory mortgage lending: The bill requires lenders to ensure a borrower's ability to repay, prohibits unfair lending practices, establishes penalties for irresponsible lending, expands consumer protections for high-cost mortgages, requires additional disclosures for consumers on mortgages, and provides housing counseling. I?m very proud to have cast my vote for the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act to help ensure that my constituents and our great country will not ever again fall victim to an unprecedented financial crisis such as this one. The legislation passed the House of Representatives by a vote of 237 to192. If you have any questions or comments, let me hear from you. I?m proud to represent a Congressional District where my constituents are informed and ask serious-minded, thoughtful questions, and provide me with valuable feedback. 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URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Jul 2 21:59:10 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [Alt-Media] Cities and states have the power to drive financial reform] In-Reply-To: <4C20602E.9070600@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <976991.90163.qm@web81202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So how do we get this message to Sunnyvale and Campbell and Milpitas and Morgan Hill?How do we let them know we would support this? Caroline --- On Tue, 6/22/10, Gerry Gras wrote: From: Gerry Gras Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [Alt-Media] Cities and states have the power to drive financial reform] To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 12:03 AM FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Alt-Media] Cities and states have the power to drive financial??? reform Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:43:01 -0700 From: "Alt-Media: News and views from an alternative perspective"??? Reply-To: alt-media-owner at cagreens.org To: alt-media at cagreens.org Financial Reform: The Collective Power of Local Government vs. Big Banks By Richard Alarc?n (Huffington Post, May 24) -- Across the U.S., newspaper headlines lead with stories about financial reform. Congress wants to better regulate Wall Street and take on the Big Banking fat cats, with their golden parachutes and big bonuses, who got us into this mess in the first place, and then took our hard-earned tax dollars in the form of a federal bail-out. ??? Congress is right to take on the big banks -- reform at the national level is long overdue and obviously needed. But amidst the national overhaul, the seeds of reform -- the work done at the state and local level -- cannot be overlooked or superseded. ??? True reform of our banking and financial systems will take pressure and action at every level, and across the nation. ??? Americans are fed up with billionaires bilking us for all we are worth -- and making the middle class the biggest losers in the process. Our friends and neighbors have lost their homes, as well as the pensions or retirement savings they worked for their whole lives, and are struggling to find work in the worst economy of our lifetimes. ??? In the meantime, Wall Street is back to business as usual, posting new profits, while those on the other side of the deals have lost their homes, their jobs, and their retirement savings. ??? With all of the anger and distrust of Wall Street, we have hit a place where we are ready for a basic cultural shift -- from looking at our investments and banking solely on the basis of short-term profits, to using it to produce true, long-term growth by investing our funds in economic growth opportunities that directly impact our communities. ??? We cannot let this historic opportunity pass us by. We must channel our inner Howard Beale and scream from our windows, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore". Our outrage must be heard, not just in words but in action. ??? At the city level, this cultural shift means investing our money in banks that help Main Street grow by offering small business loans, working with homeowners facing foreclosure to renegotiate mortgages, and opening up bank branches and credit in under-served areas, by creating local versions of the Community Reinvestment Act standards. ??? After all, what good does it do Los Angeles if the banks in which the bulk of our tax dollars sit are investing that money in another city, far away? That's why the Los Angeles City Council unanimously supported my proposal to create Responsible Banking Standards in Los Angeles, based on a model that Philadelphia put in place in 2002. ??? Los Angeles alone has a cash and pension portfolio of over $25 billion, which allows us to leverage these investments in such a way to benefit the residents of our city -- not just through the rate of return, but by looking at how the banks and financial institutions invest in our community. ??? The ordinance will require that any bank looking to do business with Los Angeles would have to submit a report to the City Treasurer who, in turn, would grade the banks based on their investments in Los Angeles. ??? And we're not the only ones -- cities including Boston, Carson City, Charlotte, Dallas, Denver, Independence, Muskegon, and Watsonville are all looking into creating similar standards for Responsible Banking. Just this week, Boston City Councilor Felix Arroyo is hosting a hearing to examine how to hold big banks accountable in their city. ??? The states of California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Mexico, Ohio and Washington are also all considering or have implemented sweeping financial reforms, including looking at the creation of state-run banks or investing only in state-chartered banks. ??? The anger is papalpablepable, and the time for reform is now. We've lost our trust in the banks that took our bail-out money, and let hundreds of thousands of homes fall into foreclosure. ??? We've lost our trust in Wall Street, where companies gained enormous profits, betting on the demise of investments. We've lost trust in the rating agencies, when 93% of the subprime-mortgage-backed securities issued in 2006 had AAA ratings -- and are now "junk" status. ??? The only way that trust is going to be restored is with sweeping reform. That's why Congress must pass substantive financial reform, so that Americans can begin to believe again. But at the same time, economic reform -- just as powerful -- must come from the cities and states. Collectively, our leverage is enormous. ??? I introduced a resolution at the National League of Cities in support of local reform, because I know the power we could have if we banded together. Local and state officials know the pain of our constituents, and know the benefit that can be derived from holding banks and financial institutions more accountable. ??? The notion that we can create real change is not just pie in the sky. The city of Philadelphia has had their policy in place since 2002, which has resulted in increased consumer and small business lending to historically under-served areas of that city. ??? And on April 16, Massachusetts State Treasurer Timothy Cahill announced that the state government will begin divesting $243 million in taxpayer dollars from three of the nation's largest banks -- Bank of America, Citibank, and Wells Fargo. ??? The decision came after the banks were asked, and refused, to voluntarily comply with an 18% interest rate cap on credit cards and other consumer borrowing for Massachusetts residents. The cap, which is required of all Massachusetts state-chartered banks, does not apply to federally-chartered banks. ??? These actions are just the beginning of our cultural shift. More cities and states are needed to create real pressure on the banks. I urge every city to create standards for how taxpayer dollars are invested and find ways to ensure that the dollars are going to banks and financial institutions that are behaving well. ??? Shouting may not get what we want -- but you can bet that billions of dollars taken elsewhere will get banks' attention. We're mad as hell -- and we don't have to take it any more. ----------------------- Richard Alarc?n is a member of the Los Angeles City Council. _______________________________________________ Alt-Media news list News and views from an alternative perspective http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/alt-media _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Jul 3 16:23:50 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 16:23:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Greens looking for homestay Message-ID: <4C2FC686.6000709@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry P.S. Merrily Davies email address is m.davies at earthlink.net. --------- Original Message ---------- >> >> >> >>Merrily Davies wrote: >> >> >>> >>> hiallyougreens, >>> >>> >>> >>> Tulare County Greens are going to be attending a conference in SanFrancisco whose topic is one that the Green Party has just lately embraced as one of their issues...Feed-In-Tariffs. In order to save $$$, we were hoping to find some fellow greens that might have some living room floor space where we might crash (sleeping bags in hand). The dates we are looking at would be July 11 through July 14, in which we would be attending the conference as well as doing some lobbying/networking with other environmental organizations. And, there will be three of us: Merrily Davies, Don Manro, Robbie Osak. (Don't worry about food. We will be providing our own.) >>> >>> >>> >>> If you want to know more about the conference, here is the e-address: www.PacificEnvironment.org/FITConference . If you want to know more about Feed-In-Tariffs, here is the e-address: http://www.wind-works.org/>Wind Energy Basics . >>> >>> >>> >>> If you think you might be able to help (as well as meet and network with other Greens), please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Merrily Davies, 559.781.6296. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> From WB4D23 at aol.com Sat Jul 3 17:36:16 2010 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 20:36:16 EDT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notes From the US Social Forum -- Part 1 Message-ID: NOTES FROM THE 2010 U. S. SOCIAL FORUM July 3, 2010 This is the first of two reports from my attending the U. S. Social Forum (USSF) in Detroit, Michigan this year in connection with attending the Annual National Meeting (ANM) of the Green Party of the United States (GPUS) onal Committee member (I am a delegate from the Green Party of California). I arrived at the Detroit airport Wednesday, June 23rd, and eventually boarded the Route 125 ?Smart Bus? for about an hour-long ride to the downtown center, where I transferred to a Route 610 to get to the Wayne State University campus where I had reserved a dorm room and where the GPUS meetings were to be held. The University also was the location of USSF workshops, but the largest number were being held in Cobo Hall, a large convention center in the downtown area near where I had transferred. The ride from the airport was memorable for the numerous potholes, the worn shocks on the bus, and the route running from the outer airport offices area, through worn looking light industrial stretches evidencing no activities in the middle of a weekday, a few residential areas, and then a major arterial street leading to the downtown area. The bus driver was calm and patient in dealing with all passengers, which was what I heard from others repeatedly as describing the Detroit bus drivers. The passenger mix was familiar ? people going to and from work; to and from school; to and from their probation officer. The following day I rode another bus route from the University to within three blocks of Cobo Hall. I had co-registered for the USSF with my ANM registration. After checking in and getting my plastic orange buckle bracelet, the indication of my registration, I picked up my tote bag with the workshops schedule and toured the large number of information tables in that auditorium area. Already there was a sense of many, many people moving through the hallways and the auditorium space. Reports of attendance I heard were 20,000 or 25,000. Many of the groups represented at the literature tables were familiar; some were not. The breadth of what I call progressive organizations were represented. I wandered down the hallway and eventually found a table off a coffee bistro where I could sit down and study the schedule of workshops. There were over a thousand to choose from over the week of events. I found a few in my initial scanning ? but they were either back at the University or on the following day when I knew I was committed to attend GPUS meetings. So at about 11:00 am I went for a stroll in the area around the Hall. Found office buildings, parking lots, an ambulance bay and eateries. When I returned to Cobo Hall, it was about Noon, where I experienced mild claustrophobia because the lunch break brought a horde of people to the main floor where there were various food services. I got an expensive pint of mild for lunch and went to find the location of the afternoon workshop I had agreed to attend as an assistant for the small group discussion component (more on that separately). I was given my first item of literature on the bus ride from the airport by a distraught woman (early 20?s) who was traveling on her own for the first time all the way from Guam. She had missed her shuttle connection and was understandably upset. The bus driver and I were able to help her calm a bit before other passengers boarded. I picked up a few items from the literature tables, some more that were just piled around pillars in the main hallway on the first floor, and off the table where I read the schedule. They were, not necessarily in order: Stop the military buildup! Guahan Coalition for Peace & Justice. _www.weareguahan.com_ (http://www.weareguahan.com/) Color Postcard for ?Vietnam: American Holocaust? documentary. _http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com_ (http://vietnamamericanholocaust.com/) LOWDOWN ? newsprint ? News From The Mayfirst/Peoplelink (progressive internet membership organization) _http://mayfirst.org_ (http://mayfirst.org/) Americans for Informed Democracy information leaflets ? college campus oriented _www.aidemocracy.org_ (http://www.aidemocracy.org/) Leaflet for workshop on ?Palestine is STILL the Issue? organized by the Chicago chapter of the International Solidarity Movement (for 10 am June 24th) Two leaflets from Campaign to Legalize Democracy?s ?Move to Amend? project ? re fighting corporate control via local organizing and local government resolutions _www.MovetoAmend.org_ (http://www.movetoamend.org/) (also listed: _www.WILPF.org/cvd_ (http://www.wilpf.org/cvd) and _www.ReclaimDemocracy.org_ (http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/) ) Leaflet for workshop and support to fight California prisons ban of the Revolution Newspaper _www.PRLF.org_ (http://www.PRLF.org) I will bring my tote bag and its contents to the next GPSCC general meeting on Wednesday July 7th. 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The workshop was held on Thursday afternoon, June 24, 2010, and was live streamed by digital video / internet technology as it occurred. I do not know if it is archived somewhere. The following are my impressions and opinions about that meeting. Other individuals who were present at the workshop, or who viewed the video feed, can write their own impressions whether in agreement or not of my comments. On June 18, 2010, the workshop was described on the GPUS NC votes email list as follows ? ?Five organizations have collaborated to organize a ?progressive strategy dialogue? at the United States Social Forum (http://www.ussf2010.org) in Detroit, Michigan. The dialogue will be one of 50 People?s Movement Assemblies during the USSF. It will take place on Thursday afternoon, June 24th, from 1 to 5:30 pm in Cobo Hall, room W2-67. The dialogue was initiated by the Independent Progressive Politics Network, which has organized similar dialogues a number of times over the past decade. Co-sponsors are the Green Party of the United States, League of Revolutionaries for a New America, Progressive Democrats of America and the Program on Corporations, Law and Democracy. Three major issues will be addressed: ? what can be done to stimulate independent, grassroots activism around key issues like unemployment, the housing crisis, racial justice, the climate crisis, corporate control of elections, immigrant rights, war and empire and universal health care; ? an assessment of the strengths and weaknesses of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party as far as the building of a popular progressive movement; and, ? how to develop a ?united progressives? network that brings together Greens and other third party activists, progressive Democrats, and labor, community and issue-based organizers into an on-going, independent, progressive alternative to our corporate-dominated political system.? This description was followed by a list of participants who had committed to attend and an open invitation for additional participants. The title of the workshop as listed in the US Social Forum schedule was ? Stimulating Grassroots Activism on Massive Scale ? A Progressive Dialogue?. The Workshop The gathering began by introductions of various convenors. This meeting was explained as an extension of previous smaller informal meetings among activists facilitated through the Independent Political Parties Network (IPPN). Then the rest of us took our turns for quick individual introductions. There were a lot of Green Party members, some former Green Party activists, individuals who identified themselves as New Party activists, members of the Progressive Democrats of America (PDA), a member of the Libertarian Party, and a few persons who did not identify with any political party. After that go around, there were three roughly ten minute presentations on the three topics that had been listed in the GPUS list announcement. Each topic had two presenters who had about four minutes each to give their rap. Not surprisingly, under the circumstances, these presentations were vague and largely unfocused. I don?t remember the details of any of them. Following the presentations, discussion was opened up to the rest of us in the room. I do not remember most of the specific comments, but the conversation veered mostly to the second topic. Comments divided between Green Party members who either were strongly against any kind of collaboration with any kind of Democratic Party member(s) and those who asserted that localized or issue-oriented (e.g. single payer healthcare) was appropriate and desirable. PDA members comments in reply were that they were a separate organization from the Democratic Party, but were Democratic Party members engaging in an ?inside/outside? strategy that included trying to advocate progressive causes and positions within the Democratic Party while at the same time working with other organizations, including members of other political parties, on those issues of common concern and agreement. New Party members basically said they were forming a new political party. One person who identified herself as a former Green Party member stated she had left the GP because it had been endorsing and supporting Democratic Party candidates. (?!) The ?dialogue? was individuals stating their personal positions. About midway into the length of the workshop, a ?ten minute break? was agreed upon. During the break, the conveners informally discussed what had happened in the first session. They seemed to agree that the discussion had spiraled away from their own preferences in that it had been so focused on the subject of working or not working with Democrats rather than the other broader issues. After the break, about 20 of the 50 or so people who had been in the room returned. Discussion was directed to proposals that were to be submitted from the workshop to a larger plenary session. Those topics were the need for public financing of campaigns, ending the concept of corporate personhood, and additional items I do not remember. I have no idea what was done with the items consensed upon by those of us who returned for session two and participated in that discussion. Critique The newsprint handout for the US Social Forum described that convergence of people and organizations as follows: ??many arteries of thought come together as we and millions around the world join in a path towards justice. This path puts people over profits and values actions over pontifications. This is not a conference, but rather a political process that increases our collective power and resilience by strengthening our communities and weaving ourselves into a movement that transcends oppression and opposition?.? I do not know the process for submitting workshop topics. I do not know if the title appearing in the USSF Schedule was a stopgap topic that got changed after the schedule was printed (kindest possible interpretation). In my opinion, the workshop content came nowhere near the workshop title in the schedule. Apparently, the individuals who attended the meeting came because of their existing or past political party activities. This workshop would not have made much sense and would have probably been judged a waste of time by ?Movement?, issue-focused or community organizing activists. But the mis-titling of the meeting still rankles, if only as a matter of principle. A proper topic might have been ?Exploring Possibilities for Progressive Political Activists to Work Together ? A Dialogue.? Given what was presented and what occurred, that would have been an honest, modest expectations, indication about what the meeting intended. The workshop planners both tried to do too much and tried to do too little. Maybe this was a result of process negotiating the meeting; maybe it was the result of planning by committee. I don?t know. It does seem to me that, given the context of the US Social Forum, it was a lost opportunity for everybody in the room. If there is anything that would have been pertinent for discussion and presentation to the plenary of attendees, it is the question: ?How do we make electoral politics seem relevant to mass social movements and their participants?? That should have been the focus of at least the second session of the workshop, not general electoral reform issues or topics that were going to be covered in other meetings. What this workshop could have done is developed a unity statement to take to the floor of the convergence stating that progressive political parties and electoral activism are a necessary part of moving forward the progressive anti-oppression agenda. So, sadly, I view the meeting as interesting but unproductive. Coda These comments were written mainly as a report back to activists in the Green Party of California cagreens.org Also see Green Party of the United of the United States _www.gp.org_ (http://www.gp.org/) A Progressive Democrats of America pdamerica.org glossy postcard handout describes PDA Priorities as: End War and Occupations, Redirect Funding; Healthcare for All; Economic and Social Justice; Clean, Fair, Transparent Elections; Stop Global Warming; Accountability and Justice. Certainly all consistent with Green Party positions. The PDA also brought well conceived posters and stickers. I tried to engage a New Party activist in the hallway during the workshop break as he was distributing leaflets. I pointed out to him that the statements of New Party members during the workshop made it appear that they were engaging in a ?cult of personality? because all they were saying was that they were following the principles of Ralph Nader. He said no they weren?t. I said, well, that?s what it sounds like. He said I was refusing to hear what he was saying and stalked away. One of the New Party leaflets contains references to various progressive issues and also expressly states that ?this political party shall be created and founded upon the work and philosophy of Ralph Nader, responding to Mr. Nader?s call for the organization of a new political voice to speak for those who are voiceless in this society.? ?So much for the efficacy of the Revolutionary Workers Party (among others). I asked a Green Party officer why there was no GPUS literature table with staff. I was told that part of the US Social Forum approach was not to seem to be endorsing any political parties by only allowing a literature drop. But I saw a table with a person behind it for the Socialist Workers Party. And I heard that a Green Party member engaged in some anarchist activism by being at the table with the GPUS newspapers. In Struggle! Warner S. Bloomberg III Califonia Delegate to the GNC _wsb3gpus at aol.com_ (mailto:wsb3gpus at aol.com) All opinions stated above are those of the writer, only. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Jul 5 12:43:49 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 12:43:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Green Jobs Advocate Faces Prison" Message-ID: <4C3235F5.70609@earthlink.net> I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by this, but somehow I am. A nonviolent action which interfered with no one's actions may lead to the activist going to jail for three years. He let down two banners in a U.S. Senate building. "Change? Green Jobs Advocate Faces Prison for Dropping Banner While BP and Massey Go Free?" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/05-3 Gerry From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Jul 5 18:31:27 2010 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 21:31:27 EDT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Agenda Items for Wednesday's Meeting Message-ID: <744d9.432b2605.3963e16f@aol.com> I would like to hear how tabling went at the Juneteenth weekend. I can briefly report on the GPUS national meeting if there is interest. I will bring a small amount of cherry plums. If people can't get to the meeting and would like some plums, call or email me. Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also for the Agenda, I'd like to add "Protest BP for spilling oil", 10 Min. Palm Haven Handyman wrote: > Warner, > > I'd like some plums! > > Anybody want a bunch of fresh-cut zuchinni from our garden? Also > avocados, fava beans, lemons and hot peppers I'll bring Wed (if my wife > lets me out). > > Roy III > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added my review of Empire of the Summer Moon. From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Jul 7 13:56:13 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:56:13 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item for Wednesday 7-7-2010 In-Reply-To: <4C2E9A79.1030504@sbcglobal.net> References: <4C2E9A79.1030504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4C34E9ED.1080908@aceweb.com> Ummm... Who is doing the agenda? Jim Doyle wrote: > Presentation of official notification of election of 2010 > county council members - ROV > _______________________________________________ > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added my review of Empire of the Summer Moon. The green horn fair trade icon is on my clean air partners fob. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jul 7 15:56:52 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:56:52 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Laura for Gov on KWMR.org on Wed at 5pm - Norman Solomon Message-ID: <4C350634.5000403@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Laura Wells Subject: Laura for Gov on KWMR.org on Wed at 5pm - Norman Solomon Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:01:26 -0700 Size: 18493 URL: From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Jul 8 14:18:39 2010 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:18:39 -0400 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Telling It Like it Is in Silicon Valley Message-ID: <8CCECFA44A7AD65-4FFC-146@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, Sometimes you find something posted on the Internet that tells your own story better than you could tell it yourself. A big thanks to my friend, Carole Hanisch for sending me the link to the article by Dave Johnson of Redwood City, California below. I was a professional computer programmer for twenty-two years in Virginia, New York, and Massachusetts before settling in California's so-called Silicon Valley just in time for the big crash of 2000. Only two things I can add. First, as an African-American with some 1960s consciousness, even during the boom years I was never seduced by that "USA! USA! We're Number 1 'cause the USA today is the best of all possible words!" baloney. Second, as a Green Party man I'm not blind to the political fact that so-called Silicon Valley is One-Party Democratic territory represented by Congresswomen Anna Eshoo (D-HP) and Zoe Lofgren (D-Cisco Systems) who could not care less and where two Silicon Valley big shots, Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina are running for high office as Republicans vowing to "get tough" with "lazy" Americans who don't want to work. Please note that I have cross-posted this text on two web sites: California Greening Green Change Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens Posted on Campaign for America's Future, July 7, 2010 Too Old For A Job, Too Young For Medicare Or Social Security by Dave Johnson Here is a fact: There. Are. No. Jobs. I'm in Silicon Valley where the official unemployment rate dipped in May to 11.2%. This dip was, of course, because of so many people just giving up trying to get a job, certainly not because of some wave of hiring. The underemployed figure, known as "U-6," is 21.7% in California, 16.7% nationally. You have to know someone to get a humiliating job standing on a corner waving a sign. And if you are over 40, things are even worse than that. Don't give me any conservative Rush Limbaugh-Ayn Rand dehumanizing nonsense about parasitic lazy people who won't look?there are no jobs. I know so many people here who are over 40, were laid off in the 2000-era dot com crash, still haven't found a regular job and aren't going to. They have had occasional "contract" positions?which means no benefits, no security, a 15% "self-employment" tax and no unemployment check when the job ends. And now, 10 years later they're a lot over 40 and are not going to find a job because so many employers here won't hire people over 40. And now there are so many more who lost their jobs in the mass layoffs of 2008-2009 and can't find a job. So many of them are also over 40. In fact, many were laid off in obvious purges of over-40 workers, offered a small severance that they could only receive if they promised to take no age-discrimination action against the employer. (I don't say "company" because some of these worked at nonprofits.) Most of these people will not find another job, but are too young for Medicare and Social Security. ... Please Read the Full Text of the Op-Ed and Leave Comments: Original Post on Campaign for America's Future URL: http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010072707/too-old-job-too-young-medicare-or-social-security California Greening: http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/07/too-old-for-job-too-young-for-medicare.html Green Change: http://network.greenchange.org/news/19659-too-old-for-a-job-too-young-for-medicare -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Jul 8 15:12:52 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:12:52 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Telling It Like it Is in Silicon Valley In-Reply-To: <8CCECFA44A7AD65-4FFC-146@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCECFA44A7AD65-4FFC-146@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C364D64.3060605@earthlink.net> Amen, Gerry alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Sometimes you find something posted on the Internet that tells your own > story better than you could tell it yourself. A big thanks to my friend, > Carole Hanisch for sending me the link to the article by Dave Johnson of > Redwood City, California below. I was a professional computer programmer > for twenty-two years in Virginia, New York, and Massachusetts before > settling in California's so-called Silicon Valley just in time for the > big crash of 2000. Only two things I can add. First, as an > African-American with some 1960s consciousness, even during the boom > years I was never seduced by that "USA! USA! We're Number 1 'cause the > USA today is the best of all possible words!" baloney. Second, as a > Green Party man I'm not blind to the political fact that so-called > Silicon Valley is One-Party Democratic territory represented by > Congresswomen Anna Eshoo (D-HP) and Zoe Lofgren (D-Cisco Systems) who > could not care less and where two Silicon Valley big shots, Meg Whitman > and Carly Fiorina are running for high office as Republicans vowing to > "get tough" with "lazy" Americans who don't want to work. > > Please note that I have cross-posted this text on two web sites: > California Greening > > > Green Change > > > > Alex Walker > Los Angeles Greens > > * Posted on Campaign for America's Future, July 7, 2010 > Too Old For A Job, Too Young For Medicare Or Social Security > > by Dave Johnson * > > Here is a fact: There. Are. No. Jobs. I'm in Silicon Valley where > the official unemployment rate dipped in May to 11.2%. This dip was, > of course, because of so many people just giving up trying to get a > job, certainly not because of some wave of hiring. The underemployed > figure, known as "U-6," is 21.7% in California, 16.7% nationally. > > You have to know someone to get a humiliating job standing on a > corner waving a sign. And if you are over 40, things are even worse > than that. Don't give me any conservative Rush Limbaugh-Ayn Rand > dehumanizing nonsense about parasitic lazy people who won't > look?there are no jobs. > > I know so many people here who are over 40, were laid off in the > 2000-era dot com crash, still haven't found a regular job and aren't > going to. They have had occasional "contract" positions?which means > no benefits, no security, a 15% "self-employment" tax and no > unemployment check when the job ends. And now, 10 years later > they're a lot over 40 and are not going to find a job because so > many employers here won't hire people over 40. > > And now there are so many more who lost their jobs in the mass > layoffs of 2008-2009 and can't find a job. So many of them are also > over 40. In fact, many were laid off in obvious purges of over-40 > workers, offered a small severance that they could only receive if > they promised to take no age-discrimination action against the > employer. (I don't say "company" because some of these worked at > nonprofits.) > > Most of these people will not find another job, but are too young > for Medicare and Social Security. > > ... > > > > Please Read the Full Text of the Op-Ed and Leave Comments: > > Original Post on Campaign for America's Future URL: > http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010072707/too-old-job-too-young-medicare-or-social-security > > > > California Greening: > http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/07/too-old-for-job-too-young-for-medicare.html > > > > Green Change: > http://network.greenchange.org/news/19659-too-old-for-a-job-too-young-for-medicare > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Jul 8 15:53:30 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:53:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Telling It Like it Is in Silicon Valley In-Reply-To: <4C364D64.3060605@earthlink.net> References: <8CCECFA44A7AD65-4FFC-146@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com>, <4C364D64.3060605@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Discussion at DailyKos (689 comments): http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/7/882399/-Too-Old-For-A-Job,-Too-Young-For-Medicare-Or-Social-Security Discussion at Democraticunderground: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8709459 The blessing and the curse in our situation is that so many of the jobs in our economy were discretionary--the purveying of conveniences, luxuries, and wants, not needs--and many of them existed simply because the economic environment at the time made them profitable if not necessarily productive. I'd hate to see efforts to revive the wasteful and frivolous aspects of our former economy simply because people need jobs. On the techscape of course computing power continues to outstrip demand no matter how cheap it gets (at least until the TV/computer convergence comes). My chief tech wish right now is smarter traffic lights. We could save fuel and time if traffic lights could look around (sniffing engine RFI perhaps) and stop one to let ten go instead of holding ten to let one through. Giving preference to hybrids and EVs (and older, more polluting cars) could be programmed into the system too. > Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 15:12:52 -0700 > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net > To: alexcathy at aol.com > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Telling It Like it Is in Silicon Valley > > > Amen, > > Gerry > > > alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > Sometimes you find something posted on the Internet that tells your own > > story better than you could tell it yourself. A big thanks to my friend, > > Carole Hanisch for sending me the link to the article by Dave Johnson of > > Redwood City, California below. I was a professional computer programmer > > for twenty-two years in Virginia, New York, and Massachusetts before > > settling in California's so-called Silicon Valley just in time for the > > big crash of 2000. Only two things I can add. First, as an > > African-American with some 1960s consciousness, even during the boom > > years I was never seduced by that "USA! USA! We're Number 1 'cause the > > USA today is the best of all possible words!" baloney. Second, as a > > Green Party man I'm not blind to the political fact that so-called > > Silicon Valley is One-Party Democratic territory represented by > > Congresswomen Anna Eshoo (D-HP) and Zoe Lofgren (D-Cisco Systems) who > > could not care less and where two Silicon Valley big shots, Meg Whitman > > and Carly Fiorina are running for high office as Republicans vowing to > > "get tough" with "lazy" Americans who don't want to work. > > > > Please note that I have cross-posted this text on two web sites: > > California Greening > > > > > > Green Change > > > > > > > > Alex Walker > > Los Angeles Greens > > > > * Posted on Campaign for America's Future, July 7, 2010 > > Too Old For A Job, Too Young For Medicare Or Social Security > > > > by Dave Johnson * > > > > Here is a fact: There. Are. No. Jobs. I'm in Silicon Valley where > > the official unemployment rate dipped in May to 11.2%. This dip was, > > of course, because of so many people just giving up trying to get a > > job, certainly not because of some wave of hiring. The underemployed > > figure, known as "U-6," is 21.7% in California, 16.7% nationally. > > > > You have to know someone to get a humiliating job standing on a > > corner waving a sign. And if you are over 40, things are even worse > > than that. Don't give me any conservative Rush Limbaugh-Ayn Rand > > dehumanizing nonsense about parasitic lazy people who won't > > look?there are no jobs. > > > > I know so many people here who are over 40, were laid off in the > > 2000-era dot com crash, still haven't found a regular job and aren't > > going to. They have had occasional "contract" positions?which means > > no benefits, no security, a 15% "self-employment" tax and no > > unemployment check when the job ends. And now, 10 years later > > they're a lot over 40 and are not going to find a job because so > > many employers here won't hire people over 40. > > > > And now there are so many more who lost their jobs in the mass > > layoffs of 2008-2009 and can't find a job. So many of them are also > > over 40. In fact, many were laid off in obvious purges of over-40 > > workers, offered a small severance that they could only receive if > > they promised to take no age-discrimination action against the > > employer. (I don't say "company" because some of these worked at > > nonprofits.) > > > > Most of these people will not find another job, but are too young > > for Medicare and Social Security. > > > > ... > > > > > > > > Please Read the Full Text of the Op-Ed and Leave Comments: > > > > Original Post on Campaign for America's Future URL: > > http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010072707/too-old-job-too-young-medicare-or-social-security > > > > > > > > California Greening: > > http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/07/too-old-for-job-too-young-for-medicare.html > > > > > > > > Green Change: > > http://network.greenchange.org/news/19659-too-old-for-a-job-too-young-for-medicare > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Jul 9 12:00:47 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:00:47 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Telling It Like it Is in Silicon Valley In-Reply-To: <8CCECFA44A7AD65-4FFC-146@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCECFA44A7AD65-4FFC-146@Webmail-d102.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C3771DF.9050008@aceweb.com> I guess I?m one of those long term unemployed people. I left AOL at 40 a decade ago, I?ve still not found work in the field. Part of that is I wanted to be an activist, but part is that none of the things I used to do are still being done. I probably could learn some new job, but there just doesn?t seem to be enough need for that? alexcathy at aol.com wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Sometimes you find something posted on the Internet that tells your own > story better than you could tell it yourself. A big thanks to my friend, > Carole Hanisch for sending me the link to the article by Dave Johnson of > Redwood City, California below. I was a professional computer programmer > for twenty-two years in Virginia, New York, and Massachusetts before > settling in California's so-called Silicon Valley just in time for the > big crash of 2000. (snip) > > * Posted on Campaign for America's Future, July 7, 2010 > Too Old For A Job, Too Young For Medicare Or Social Security > > by Dave Johnson * (snip) > > I know so many people here who are over 40, were laid off in the > 2000-era dot com crash, still haven't found a regular job and aren't > going to. They have had occasional "contract" positions?which means > no benefits, no security, a 15% "self-employment" tax and no > unemployment check when the job ends. And now, 10 years later > they're a lot over 40 and are not going to find a job because so > many employers here won't hire people over 40. > > And now there are so many more who lost their jobs in the mass > layoffs of 2008-2009 and can't find a job. So many of them are also > over 40. In fact, many were laid off in obvious purges of over-40 > workers, offered a small severance that they could only receive if > they promised to take no age-discrimination action against the > employer. (I don't say "company" because some of these worked at > nonprofits.) > > Most of these people will not find another job, but are too young > for Medicare and Social Security. > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added my review of Empire of the Summer Moon. The green horn fair trade icon is on my clean air partners fob. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Jul 11 12:44:12 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:44:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Galbraith on current economic woes Message-ID: <4C3A1F0C.10202@earthlink.net> A brief statement covering the basics of how the exonomy got into this mess, and what is necessary to get out. "Tremble, Banks, Tremble" "The key to financial recovery: restoring the rule of law on Wall Street." by James K. Galbraith http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/11-5 Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Jul 11 14:03:59 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:03:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FDA Sitting on Reports on Sunscreen-Cancer Link Message-ID: Says Sen. Charles Schumer "Studies from the National Center for Toxicological Research (NCTR) and the National Toxicology Program (NTP) have suggested a possible link between skin cancer and retinyl palmitate, a common ingredient found in sunscreen products. While the research has been completed since July 2009, the FDA has yet to issue a final assessment or guidance on the data." http://schumer.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=326294& _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Sun Jul 11 22:00:51 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:00:51 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Vote now for your favorite "YES ON 19" button! Message-ID: <4C3AA183.3050906@aceweb.com> I'm asking people to vote for their favorite of the pictures at the top of this page: http://tian.greens.org/ If you want to design something better we can have another round vs. the winner of this one... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added my review of Empire of the Summer Moon. The green horn fair trade icon is now on a Massachusetts quarter. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Jul 11 22:59:09 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:59:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Vote now for your favorite "YES ON 19" button! In-Reply-To: <4C3AA183.3050906@aceweb.com> References: <4C3AA183.3050906@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4C3AAF2D.40702@earthlink.net> I would rather decide between 2 buttons rather than images on my computer screen. But ... FWIW, on my computer screen, the one on the right is easier to read. And I guess that for someone who is color blind, the one on the left would be very difficult or impossible to read. Gerry Tian Harter wrote: > I'm asking people to vote for their favorite of the pictures > at the top of this page: > > http://tian.greens.org/ > > If you want to design something better we can have another round > vs. the winner of this one... From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Jul 13 00:28:24 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:28:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Yes on 19 buttons now available! Message-ID: <4C3C1598.9090508@aceweb.com> By far the winner of the button competition was the yellow letter one: http://tian.greens.org/ I've made a batch of these, and have some available. Let me know if you want one or more! -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added my review of Empire of the Summer Moon. The green horn fair trade icon is now on a Maryland quarter. 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Its mission is to protect and enhance the water > > quality of the San Francisco Bay for the benefit of its ecosystems > > and human communities (visit www.baykeeper.org > ). > > > > Prior to joining Baykeeper, Ian worked as a Habitat Restoration > > Specialist in Southern California and a Hydrologist in London, UK, > > and has worked with a range of public, private and non-profit > > organizations in California and Europe on issues surrounding urban > > water quality, coastal diffuse pollution, endangered species, and > > wetland restoration. > > > > Ian, who supports Baykeeper's litigation and advocacy efforts > > through scientific review of issues relevant to Bay ecology and > > chemical status, will describe Baykeepers mission and what he > > learned from a recent visit to the oil impacted areas of the > > Gulf of Mexico. He will also bring us up to date on the status of > > Gulf oil spill response efforts. > > > Ian began by explaining a little about Baykeeper. They are a nonprofit, > part of a river keeper network, Waterkeeper Alliance, organized by > Robert Kennedy, Jr. > They work with regulators to ensure that good water quality outcomes > are achieved. They also patrol the bay looking for pollution dumping. > > Ian recently spent three weeks in the Gulf helping with response to the > Deepwater Horizon spill. He showed us booms that weren't doing much, > and stockings full of hair to absorb oil. He said those kinds of things > probably work with much smaller spills than this one. He explained that > the Cosco Busan spill we'd had just a few years ago was about a half hours > worth of spill from the Deepwater Horizon. The Santa Barbara spill that > had galvanized California back in the '70s was only two days worth of > output from the current gusher under the Gulf of Mexico. California's > entire offshore oil production works out to about what is spewing from > the Deepwater Horizon's blown well. That one spill is a huge event. > > Ian had a lot to say about the dispersants being used. So far BP has > injected 1.8 million gallons of the stuff into the oil coming out of the > well head. This has the effect of making it hover in the water column > instead of rising to the surface as Alaskan oil did after the Valdez > spill. > What does reach the surface becomes these incredibly sticky droplets > that do wildlife no favors. This is the first time such dispersants are > being used on a big oil spill. > > Dispersants are preventing the pictures of black oiled beaches that BP > didn't want to see, but it has other effects we are still figuring out. > So far known dead include 1800 seabirds, 444 sea turtles, and at least > 53 dolphins and other aquatic mammals. The number of fish killed is > unknown. More study will be needed to see if this strategy is really > helping. Clearly the oil plume is a low oxygen environment compared > to normal sea water. > > Oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico have been an ongoing part of the > ecosystem for so long that the water column has microbes built into it > that eat oil. Ian thinks that maybe some fertilizing might help them. > Since the Mississippi River already dumps a lot of nitrogen fertilizers > from farm runoff into the area that is probably not needed. People are > looking into ways to add phosphorous and oxygen. > > There was a lot of active Q&A participation: > > Kevin Costner's gadget is a centrifuge that separates oil and water. BP > has bought 30 of the things, and we don't yet know how useful they are. > > The fishing may be back in five years but it's not clear the fishermen > will be. Most fishing operations were delicately balanced on big debt > service requirements, and five years of no fishing will likely bankrupt > them. > > The Deepwater Horizon found this gusher about fifty miles offshore. > > Skimmers would work a lot better if the oil wasn't having detergent > added to it. > > If you want to help out, please send donations to saveourgulf.org > . > > Tian > I've been to the top of the mountain on the California quarter. > http://tian.greens.org -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added a free LEGALIZE IT! YES ON 19 button offer. The green horn fair trade icon is now on a Maryland quarter. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Jul 15 11:11:43 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:11:43 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? Message-ID: <4C3F4F5F.8070000@earthlink.net> FYI, today is the deadline for comments to the FCC on net neutrality. Gerry -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Misty Perez Truedson, SavetheInternet.com" Subject: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:33:18 -0500 (CDT) Size: 12975 URL: From palmheaven at gmail.com Thu Jul 15 11:23:45 2010 From: palmheaven at gmail.com (Palm Haven Handyman) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:23:45 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? In-Reply-To: <4C3F4F5F.8070000@earthlink.net> References: <4C3F4F5F.8070000@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Gerry, I am unable to see your attachment. What did Cameron recommend? I remember reading his great writeup about net neutrality, but am not sure what the UPSHOT was. We want the internet to remain a freely open thing, and dont want the big telcoms to shove a tierd approach down everyone's throats, but I seem to recall that the main idea was that the internet is a vast-self-healing (sorry, probably incorrect terminology) entity and will treat any "throttling" efforts by the telecoms as damage, and route around it. Just what should I write today, since I want to make sure I send something in before the deadline for comments expires, what is the GREEN PARTY's stand on this? Roy III On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > FYI, > > today is the deadline for comments to the FCC on net neutrality. > > Gerry > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Greenbuilder CA General Contractor B #756438 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gerry http://southoftheborderdoc.com/in-theatres/ From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Jul 15 15:48:37 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:48:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Moving Money out of Banks Message-ID: <4C3F9045.20508@earthlink.net> About how some groups with LOTS of money are talking about possibly moving money out of non cooperative banks. "Move Your BIG Money" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/15-9 Gerry From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Thu Jul 15 22:30:03 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? Message-ID: <20100716053003.8C2036A98E@truffula.sj.ca.us> "Net Neutrality" means something different every week. It's hard to keep up with the advocacy groups that have made it their career. Sometimes it means no carrier could interfere with any traffic on its network, no matter how destructive. That's the proposal for the GP-US platform right now. If it were public policy, the Internet would be overwhelmed. The Internet routes around damage, including censorship, but not if the damage is everywhere. Sometimes it means cable TV and phone companies wouldn't be allowed to discriminate against a competitor's data. That's "common carrier status," like the rule that the phone company has to let you call any number you want from your land line. They're not allowed to block those $100/minute fraud numbers in the Cayman Islands. People are smart enough to avoid those, for the most part. Maybe they'll be smart enough to avoid cracked web sites that infect their browsers with malware, too. The whole thing smells fishy to me. Especially when the first place I ever heard about it from was Wes Boyd's "Moveon.org." Moveon.org is a spammer. I got Boyd thrown off his Compuserve account for spamming, when he was just getting started. Freepress.net sends spam too. Spamming is network abuse and if it were not controlled by the ISPs it would render the network unusable in a day. I don't think we should be taking public policy advice from people like that. -Cameron From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Jul 15 23:25:14 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:25:14 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? In-Reply-To: <20100716053003.8C2036A98E@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20100716053003.8C2036A98E@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: I think the question is who should we take advice from and what do you advocate. Brian > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:30:03 -0700 > From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? > > > "Net Neutrality" means something different every week. It's > hard to keep up with the advocacy groups that have made it > their career. > > Sometimes it means no carrier could interfere with any traffic on > its network, no matter how destructive. That's the proposal for > the GP-US platform right now. If it were public policy, the > Internet would be overwhelmed. The Internet routes around damage, > including censorship, but not if the damage is everywhere. > > Sometimes it means cable TV and phone companies wouldn't be > allowed to discriminate against a competitor's data. > That's "common carrier status," like the rule that the phone > company has to let you call any number you want from your > land line. They're not allowed to block those $100/minute > fraud numbers in the Cayman Islands. People are smart enough > to avoid those, for the most part. Maybe they'll be smart > enough to avoid cracked web sites that infect their browsers > with malware, too. > > The whole thing smells fishy to me. Especially when the first > place I ever heard about it from was Wes Boyd's "Moveon.org." > Moveon.org is a spammer. I got Boyd thrown off his Compuserve > account for spamming, when he was just getting started. > Freepress.net sends spam too. Spamming is network abuse and if > it were not controlled by the ISPs it would render the > network unusable in a day. I don't think we should be taking > public policy advice from people like that. > > -Cameron > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Fri Jul 16 08:02:46 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? Message-ID: <20100716150246.6EC516A98E@truffula.sj.ca.us> > I think the question is who should we take advice from > and what do you advocate. We should take advice from everyone and no-one. It's irresponsible to delegate these things. We should instead be educating ourselves so we can form our own informed opinions. That's really where Greens and other progressives have fallen down. It's part of the "I'm not technical" crap we pull on ourselves and each other. I don't believe the current FCC rulemaking matters. The cable TV companies have pretty much taken over the last mile, with the telco monopolies owning most of the rest. If the FCC declares the cable Internet companies common carriers, the Fascist courts will call it a "taking" and throw it out. We should be working on two fronts. We should be working, long term, for a new monopoly law. The Sherman Act was written to bust the 19th Century railroad and grain trusts. It doesn't work against software and communications monopolies. Locally, we should be learning how the Comcast and AT&T easements and rights-of-way work in our cities, in our neighborhoods. Find out what those green and beige boxes on the corner do, and who got paid off to let them do it. The other front is keeping the Internet working, which is the job of every Internet user. The snug.bug address belongs to the Microsoft Corporation. Do you really trust NYSE:MSFT with your email? Educate yourself so you can pick a more trustworthy vendor, and move. In the medium term, Comcast and AT&T will be attempting some censorship and other manipulation. Educate yourself so you can route the stuff you care about around that damage. Start looking for a trustworthy web proxy, and learning how to build one yourself. For any hope to win this thing, which is ultimately the battle for democracy itself, we have to own our own tools. "I'm not technical" is a foolish indulgence, and we have to outgrow it. That's where the effort should be going. -Cameron From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Jul 16 09:43:16 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:43:16 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SVBC is asking for signatures on this petition Message-ID: <4C408C24.1050809@aceweb.com> I signed it... http://bikesiliconvalley.org/petition/airport-boulevard-no-bikes-sign-removal -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added a free LEGALIZE IT! YES ON 19 button offer. The green horn fair trade icon is now on a New Hampshire quarter. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Jul 16 10:03:50 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:03:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SVBC is asking for signatures on this petition In-Reply-To: <4C408C24.1050809@aceweb.com> References: <4C408C24.1050809@aceweb.com> Message-ID: Bikes make DHS types nervous because their hollow structures make an excellent place to conceal explosives and their ubiquity and people's tendency to park them casually make them hard to control. A few years ago the Amtrak police, in cooperation with Palo Alto and Menlo Park police, went on a bolt-cutter rampage impounding stray bikes in a region extending several blocks from the railroad tracks. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. 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Seth On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:03:50AM -0700, Brian Good wrote: > > > Bikes make DHS types nervous because their hollow structures make an excellent place to conceal explosives and their ubiquity and people's tendency to park them casually make them hard to control. A few years ago the Amtrak police, in cooperation with Palo Alto and Menlo Park police, went on a bolt-cutter rampage impounding stray bikes in a region extending several blocks from the railroad tracks. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Seth Alan Woolley 3403 NE Stanton St Portland OR 97212-2744-03 USA KF7IOR.US +1-503-953-3943 WGS84: 45.5438N,122.6295W; GMRS: WQLN518 -.- ..-. --... .. --- .-. -..-. .- . APRS: 144.39M; 147.040M +.6in PGP key BF34059B ADE8 3079 494D 864D 7BEA 39B2 96A5 7683 BF34 059B PN: ||.|..|...|..|.|...||..|.|..|.||...|.|..|.|..|||.....||.|.|..| -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Fri Jul 16 12:56:16 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SVBC is asking for signatures on this petition Message-ID: <20100716195616.370A86A990@truffula.sj.ca.us> My morning commute runs west on Brokaw into the airport, and around the access road to the gate at De La Cruz and Central. I didn't see any "no bikes" sign this morning. The "Bike Route" signs are still up. They've broken the return route. I've been cutting through the employee parking. Don't know how you're *supposed* to get from the Central gate to Brokaw. -Cameron From seth at swoolley.homeip.net Fri Jul 16 13:15:09 2010 From: seth at swoolley.homeip.net (Seth Alan Woolley) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:15:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fwd: Why Do You Need Net Neutrality? In-Reply-To: <20100716150246.6EC516A98E@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20100716150246.6EC516A98E@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <20100716201509.GF21517@mail.swoolley.org> Cameron, The distinction here is one of legitimate vs non-legitimate traffic. Neutrality of all legal traffic is what is proposed. Illegal traffic is still illegal. That international law is not robust enough to block spam (and Cayman phone fraud) is tragic but not fixed by blocking it except under the direction of the end user, who is free to make choices about what content to see and not see. Spam is the cost of communication. Spam is everywhere if you are in a public forum. People have a chance to portray their message freely and you can choose to accept it or not. We have to deliberate on what communications we want to restrict for everybody carefully and provide a decentralized (power) way of doing it. For example, people may be asked to sign up to parental filters, but the ISP shouldn't consider it an extra cost to _not_ have one. In the same vein, ISPs shouldn't consider it an extra cost to deliver traffic to a competitor of theirs or provide cheaper service to only approved (paid) endpoints. That is the crux of net neutrality, and scaring people into thinking they will get swindled (or killed) if the state doesn't protect them is part of what the right loves to joke about while at the same time adoring (those scary terrorists!). Opposition to Net Neutrality is very similar in my mind. For example, IRC is a rather spam-heavy protocol, but some networks have server-side ignoring implemented that is controlled by each client. Many DDoS protection companies use upstream connection management to handle attacks in a similar fashion. The Internet does route around damage on its own because it is decentralized and centralized only at client request. Net Neutrality ensures it remains so. Ridiculing others for not having an informed opinion isn't going to support your point. If Microsoft abuses his email in a way he doesn't approve, he will stop using them on his own. I see a lot of "tech savvy" people using gmail instead of hotmail, but the fact of the matter is that gmail is the worst privacy invader of them all. They introduced the idea of "we'll scan your email and figure out a demographic match by computer and deliver ads to you". They also never make data openness a priority. Never. Google is the tivoization of otherwise public data. Seth On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 08:02:46AM -0700, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > > > I think the question is who should we take advice from > > and what do you advocate. > > We should take advice from everyone and no-one. It's irresponsible > to delegate these things. We should instead be educating ourselves > so we can form our own informed opinions. That's really where > Greens and other progressives have fallen down. It's part of > the "I'm not technical" crap we pull on ourselves and each other. > > I don't believe the current FCC rulemaking matters. The cable TV > companies have pretty much taken over the last mile, with the > telco monopolies owning most of the rest. If the FCC declares > the cable Internet companies common carriers, the Fascist courts > will call it a "taking" and throw it out. > We should be working on two fronts. We should be working, long > term, for a new monopoly law. The Sherman Act was written to > bust the 19th Century railroad and grain trusts. It doesn't work > against software and communications monopolies. Locally, we > should be learning how the Comcast and AT&T easements and > rights-of-way work in our cities, in our neighborhoods. > Find out what those green and beige boxes on the corner do, > and who got paid off to let them do it. > > The other front is keeping the Internet working, which is the > job of every Internet user. The snug.bug address belongs > to the Microsoft Corporation. Do you really trust NYSE:MSFT > with your email? Educate yourself so you can pick a more > trustworthy vendor, and move. In the medium term, Comcast > and AT&T will be attempting some censorship and other > manipulation. Educate yourself so you can route the stuff > you care about around that damage. Start looking for > a trustworthy web proxy, and learning how to build one yourself. > For any hope to win this thing, which is ultimately the > battle for democracy itself, we have to own our own tools. > "I'm not technical" is a foolish indulgence, and we have > to outgrow it. 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Seth Alan Woolley wrote: > Has anybody ever made a pipe bomb out of a bike and used it to kill > somebody? > > Never heard of a bike being a lethal weapon -- are they not concerned > that cars are hollow, have large trunks, ubiquitous, and parked casually? > > I seem to recall many vehicle bombs being used to kill thousands. > > But a bike bomb? That's a new one to me. > > Seth > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:03:50AM -0700, Brian Good wrote: >> >> Bikes make DHS types nervous because their hollow structures make an excellent place to conceal explosives and their ubiquity and people's tendency to park them casually make them hard to control. A few years ago the Amtrak police, in cooperation with Palo Alto and Menlo Park police, went on a bolt-cutter rampage impounding stray bikes in a region extending several blocks from the railroad tracks. >> -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added a free LEGALIZE IT! YES ON 19 button offer. The green horn fair trade icon is now on a New Hampshire quarter. From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Fri Jul 16 15:46:08 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SVBC is asking for signatures on this petition Message-ID: <20100716224608.D44666A990@truffula.sj.ca.us> >Ummm... My approach is to think "DHS is part of the Washington complex. >Washington is bought and paid for by the oil, tire, and car companies. >Therefore, it makes sense they would trump up some excuse to dis bikes." >Maybe I'm just being a conspiracy theorist, but maybe there's something >to it. Never attribute to malice what stupidity can more simply explain. Cities and highways are planned by fat guys who ride around in limos schmoozing with real estate tycoons. It's why they have no idea that chip-sealing turns a decent road into a washboard and doesn't seal the cracks. To a fat guy in a limo, a bicyclist isn't traffic, [s]he's a kid playing with a toy in the street, or completely invisible. Most plausibly to me, they broke the airport because they just forgot we were there. -Cameron From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jul 16 19:24:17 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:24:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "South of the Border" starts tomorrow In-Reply-To: <4C3F8A14.2050601@earthlink.net> References: <4C3F8A14.2050601@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4C411451.1000606@earthlink.net> Oops, I meant Saturday. Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > The documentary "South of the Border" starts tomorrow > in San Francisco and Berkeley. > > Dana and I expect to go up to S.F. on Sunday. > > Gerry > > http://southoftheborderdoc.com/in-theatres/ > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Jul 18 17:10:04 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:10:04 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] WKRG-TV's Explosive Gulf Water Test Results Message-ID: A Mobile, Alabama TV station took gulf water samples to a lab for analysis. One of the samples exploded. http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/article/news-5-investigates-testing-the-water/906545/Jul-18-2010_3-33-pm/ _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Jul 20 18:59:06 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:59:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Elizabeth Warren for CFPB Message-ID: <4C46546A.2010403@earthlink.net> I saw Elizabeth Warren asking questions of bankers in a Congressional hearing. I saw her interviewed by Michael Moore. I think I have seen her interviewed by Amy Goodman. I think it would be great if Warren became the head of the CFPB. But, no surprise, she may be "too controversial"... "Elizabeth Warren and the Definition of 'Controversial'" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/20-8 Public Citizen campaign for her: http://citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=3692 SEIU comment: http://www.seiu.org/2010/07/seiu-elizabeth-warren-is-the-right-person-to-head-the-cfpb.php Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Jul 21 08:48:34 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:48:34 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] I-580 shooter planned murder at ACLU, Tides Foundation Message-ID: I-580 shooter planned murder at ACLU and the Tides Foundation, police say. He hoped "to start a revolution," Oakland police Sgt. Michael Weisenberg wrote in a court affidavit. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/21/MNMN1EHB37.DTL#ixzz0uKfHxVYK _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. 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Michael Weisenberg > wrote in a > court affidavit. > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/21/MNMN1EHB37.DTL#ixzz0uKfHxVYK > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. Learn more. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From jims at greens.org Wed Jul 21 17:00:13 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:00:13 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Elizabeth Warren for CFPB In-Reply-To: <4C46546A.2010403@earthlink.net> References: <4C46546A.2010403@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4C478A0D.8090605@greens.org> Elizabeth Warren has been a beacon of intelligence and clarity in her job as head of that economic oversight committee that advises Congress. Too bad they don't listen to her more seriously. She was interviewed last Friday night on PBS's "Need To Know." She will be great as head of that new consumer bureau. Jim On 7/20/2010 6:59 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > I saw Elizabeth Warren asking questions of bankers in a > Congressional hearing. I saw her interviewed by Michael > Moore. I think I have seen her interviewed by Amy Goodman. > > I think it would be great if Warren became the head of the > CFPB. But, no surprise, she may be "too controversial"... > > "Elizabeth Warren and the Definition of 'Controversial'" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/20-8 > > Public Citizen campaign for her: > http://citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=3692 > > SEIU comment: > http://www.seiu.org/2010/07/seiu-elizabeth-warren-is-the-right-person-to-head-the-cfpb.php > > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From alexcathy at aol.com Thu Jul 22 06:49:30 2010 From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:49:30 -0400 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Make BIG OIL Pay Their Fair Share Message-ID: <8CCF7BBD7D17585-1650-1991@webmail-d082.sysops.aol.com> Dear Friends, A diverse coaliton of progressive groups around Los Angeles are speaking outat a huge rally at: Occidental Petroleum in L.A. 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A government plan could save money with lower administrative costs and by paying hospitals and doctors less than commercial insurance plans, analysts have said; that could result in lower premiums and lower government subsidies for Americans who choose that plan over plans offered by commercial insurers. Insurance companies, hospitals and other businesses say a public option would undermine existing employer-provided insurance and set the stage for a single-payer system. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/21/AR2010072105067.html _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **please note that the Candidate Questionnaire previously emailed had an incorrect return date of September 22. It is actually August 5th. Fellow Greens, Please advise me, as co-coordinator of Candidates & Candidates Working Group (CCWG) whether you are aware of any local candidates running for non-partisan office in your area?. I believe the deadline for filing is August 6th. We have some funds available (very little!) and our working group can make recommendations to the Campaign Fund Support Committee (CFSC) who will make final allocation decisions. CCWG's next teleconference is August 11th, and we hope to have our final recommendations ready by that point. The candidates must have their local party endorsement and must provide an FPCC # if applicable. ($1,000 in contributions or more) I've attached a Questionnaire that the CFSC will be using to help determine fund allocations. Please provide that to new candidates in your area. Please let them know that we'd like to have the completed Questionnaires by August 5th. Let me know who the candidates are and what office they are running for. Its even better to give me their contact info or have them contact me directly at: Kendra Gonzales / earthworks_works at yahoo.com 805-419-4623 Thank you! _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From fredd at freeshell.org Fri Jul 23 15:00:37 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:00:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] No More Funds For the Nine (Or ten?) Year War Message-ID: <4C4A1105.5030803@freeshell.org> Green Friends, Let's call our House Representatives to demand (or urge) that they vote "NO" on any more funding for the nine year Afghan war. The vote will be coming up early next week. Their (the White House) excuse for more funding is that we must "stabilize" the political situation (put down the Taliban and protect the corrupt Karzai regime now in power) with our military intervention. (More than a 1,000 American lives and many more Afghan lives have already been sacrificed.) The Bush, and other previous administrations, have painted the U.S. in a corner. Obama is afraid to walk on the paint to end the debacle while the military-industrial complex is laughing all the way to the bank. Pick up the phone. Fred D. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Jul 23 23:39:48 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:39:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Nader Suports Warren Message-ID: <4C4A8AB4.5050605@earthlink.net> FYI, "Letter to President Obama on Professor Elizabeth Warren" by Ralph Nader http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/23-10 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Jul 24 09:42:31 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:42:31 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Nader on Prop 14 Message-ID: <4C4B17F7.4030308@earthlink.net> A lot of info about the fight, including newspaper editorials (for 14), minor party preferences (against 14), voter preferences (those who voted on election day opposed 14). "California Enshrines the Duopoly" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/07/24-4 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Jul 26 19:39:56 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:39:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [ppjc] Urgent Action: War Funding Vote on Wednesday Message-ID: <4C4E46FC.5080004@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Peninsula Peace and Justice Center" Subject: [ppjc] Urgent Action: War Funding Vote on Wednesday Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:11:37 -0500 Size: 22325 URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Mon Jul 26 19:58:12 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:58:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [ppjc] Urgent Action: War Funding Vote on Wednesday In-Reply-To: <4C4E46FC.5080004@earthlink.net> References: <4C4E46FC.5080004@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I wouldn't ask Anna Eshoo for a glass of water if my eyebrows were on fire. Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:39:56 -0700 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [ppjc] Urgent Action: War Funding Vote on Wednesday --Forwarded Message Attachment-- To: gerrygras at earthlink.net From: ppjc at peaceandjustice.org Subject: [ppjc] Urgent Action: War Funding Vote on Wednesday Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:11:37 -0500 If you're having trouble viewing this email, you may see it online. Share This: Peninsula Peace and Justice Center www.PeaceandJustice.org Urgent Action Alert House Set to Vote on Afghan War Funds on Wednesday National Congressional Call In Days Toll Free Congressional Switchboard 1-888-493-5443 The House of Representatives will vote on Wednesday on $33 billion to pay for escalation of the Afghanistan war and occupation. If the funding is passed, it will bring the total amount appropriated for the Afghanistan and Iraq wars to over one trillion dollars to date. And there's still no end in sight. National Congressional Call In Days: Peninsula Peace and Justice Center is joining with anti-war groups from around the country to call on activists to flood Washington with phone calls and email over the next several days about the impending vote. A straightforward vote this time? When the House last voted on the escalation funding in early July, it never took a direct vote on the war money. Instead, they voted on various amendments that added money for teachers, disaster relief, and other unrelated appropriations. When one of those amendments passed, the war funding was ?deemed? to have been passed. But the Senate rejected the House version, so the House will now be voting on the Senate-passed version. The Senate measure is limited chiefly to war funding, foreign aid, medical care for Vietnam War veterans exposed to Agent Orange, and replenishing almost empty disaster aid accounts. Although the House is expected to pass the bill with mostly Republican votes, a large no vote will be an important step in signaling falling support for the escalation strategy. Please call or email your Representative today. Toll Free Congressional Switchboard 1-888-493-5443 (See below for your Rep's direct phone number or email contact info) Share this alert with your friends! Just click on one of the handy "Share this!" icons at the top of this alert to easily send it to friends via email or to post it to your Facebook or Twitter account. Rep. Anna Eshoo (650) 323-2984 or (408) 245-2339 or (831) 335-2020 Click here for website email form Rep. Jackie Speier (650) 342-0300 Click here for website email form Rep. Mike Honda (408) 558-8085 Click here for website email form Rep. Zoe Lofgren (408) 271-8700 Click here for website email form Not sure who your Representative is? Click here. If you care to let us know that you took action, we sure would appreciate it. Just drop us a quick line at action at peaceandjustice.org Thank you for caring enough to take a few moments to contact Congress. It is important. Support our work by making a donation today. We depend on your support! Peninsula Peace and Justice Center Your local peace and justice movement. 625 Hamilton Avenue | Palo Alto, CA 94301 US This email was sent to gerrygras at earthlink.net. To ensure that you continue receiving our emails, please add us to your address book or safe list. manage your preferences | opt out using TrueRemove? Got this as a forward? Sign up to receive our future emails. EmailNow powered by Emma The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jul 28 10:27:08 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:27:08 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Congress War Vote Message-ID: <4C50686C.3080000@earthlink.net> FYI, from Barry Hermanson via the GPSMC list, Gerry --------- Forwarded Message --------- I just sent this message out to the San Francisco Green Party County Council and to the GPCA Coordinating Committee regarding the war funding vote in Congress. Please review/edit and post to wider lists. I'm sure that you have seen the notices from various peace groups about the vote this week to provide a $33 Billion supplemental appropriation for the war in Afghanistan. We are encouraged to call our representative in Congress and ask them to vote no. As you do, please reflect for a moment: No member of the Green Party would vote to give a bloated military more money. Missing in the messages I have seen, is some very basic information. We all know that $33 Billion is a huge amount of money. But did you know that: 1. $33 Billion represents less than a 5% increase to our total military budget for 2010. 2. President Obama has asked for an increase in the Pentagon budget for 2011 while many other agency budgets will be cut. 3. The Pentagon currently consumes nearly 60% of our entire national discretionary budget. 4. The United States spends almost as much as the rest of the world combined on our military. 5. The United States has bases in more than 100 countries around the world. 6. No other country has a military base on our soil. 7. The $33 Billion figure is what we will spend today. The cost to taxpayers will be several times that amount by the time it is paid back with interest. 8. 33,000 troops. $1 million to keep 1 soldier in Afghanistan for 1 year is an outrageous sum. I'd like to know: How much of that is going to private contractors like Halliburton? I strongly support our troops, but it is time that our military receive the same type of scrutiny as our social service agencies currently have to endure. It shouldn't be difficult to find 5% of waste in an organization who's annual budget exceeds $700 Billion. Barry Hermanson Co-chair, California Green Party Coordinating Committee 415-664-7754 barry at notmypriorities.org From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jul 28 10:28:03 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:28:03 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] House Votes $37 Billion for War In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C5068A3.2000603@earthlink.net> And McNerney voted yes, FWIW, Gerry Brian Good wrote: > > Eshoo, Farr, Honda, Lofgren, Lee, Stark, Miller, Speier, Woolsey all > voted no, for what it's worth. > > *http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/roll-call-house-passes-579723.html* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. Learn more. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jul 28 11:42:44 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 11:42:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Candidates appearance and success Message-ID: <4C507A24.4050904@earthlink.net> FWIW, an article about how a candidate's appearance affects his/her chances of winning an election. "Looks like a winner" http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/candidate-looks-0721.html?tr=y&auid=6707740 Gerry From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Jul 28 12:24:47 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:24:47 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] House Votes $37 Billion for War In-Reply-To: <4C5068A3.2000603@earthlink.net> References: <4C5068A3.2000603@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4C5083FF.6040101@aceweb.com> It seems likely that somewhere in the next few years the US Govt is going to reach its credit limit, sort of the way Greece has. To my way of thinking, the best of all possible worlds would be that the zero interest nature of cash will suddenly make it a much better medium of exchange at that time. Maybe then being a movement green that lives sustainably will suddenly get someone more leverage. Maybe we can even say no to military spending with our untaxable bucks in a way that moves the system then. Gerry Gras wrote: > > And McNerney voted yes, FWIW, > > Gerry > > > Brian Good wrote: >> >> Eshoo, Farr, Honda, Lofgren, Lee, Stark, Miller, Speier, Woolsey all >> voted no, for what it's worth. >> >> *http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/roll-call-house-passes-579723.html* >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> inbox. Learn more. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added a review of a tour of the Intel Museum. The green horn fair trade icon is now on a Vermont quarter. From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Jul 28 12:34:30 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:34:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Union protest at Great America's Hyatt last Thursday Message-ID: <4C508646.8010100@aceweb.com> http://tian.greens.org/SantaClara/Hyatt/Protest.html -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: added a review of a tour of the Intel Museum. The green horn fair trade icon is now on a Vermont quarter. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 28 14:59:58 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:59:58 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] holiday peace fair Message-ID: <4C50A85E.1070004@sbcglobal.net> This from an older email: Also -- please call or reply to this email if you and/or your organization want to be involved in early planning for the December 2010 Holiday Peace Fair. Thanks! Joan Goddard 408-396-8039 From jgshurt69 at aol.com Wed Jul 28 15:16:53 2010 From: jgshurt69 at aol.com (jgshurt69 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:16:53 -0400 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: H.R. 1553 In-Reply-To: <997262.93678.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <997262.93678.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CCFCB9B802420A-4CFC-1761@Webmail-d125.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Linda Whitley To: Jeffrey Shurtleff Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 3:06 pm Subject: H.R. 1553 I read about H.R. 1553 on the Friends website, but see nothing in the papers or on the news.? "This resolution claims to assert Israel's right to defend its sovereignty but actually signals to Israel that the U.S. will unconditionally back Israeli use of military force against Iran.? It's a green light to war." ? Are we staring at?yet another war? ? Linda? ? ? From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Jul 28 23:46:50 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:46:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: H.R. 1553 In-Reply-To: <8CCFCB9B802420A-4CFC-1761@Webmail-d125.sysops.aol.com> References: <997262.93678.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CCFCB9B802420A-4CFC-1761@Webmail-d125.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4C5123DA.8060400@earthlink.net> If you want to know what the Library of Congress says about this, go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ Then, under "Search Bill Summary & Status", click on the button next to "Bill Number", then enter "h res 1553", then click on "Search". It has 46 cosponsors, and has been referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. ================= "H.RES.1553 Title: Expressing support for the State of Israel's right to defend Israeli sovereignty, to protect the lives and safety of the Israeli people, and to use all means necessary to confront and eliminate nuclear threats posed by the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the use of military force if no other peaceful solution can be found within reasonable time to protect against such an immediate and existential threat to the State of Israel. " ================= Gerry jgshurt69 at aol.com wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Whitley > To: Jeffrey Shurtleff > Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 3:06 pm > Subject: H.R. 1553 > > > I read about H.R. 1553 on the Friends website, but see nothing in the > papers or on the news. "This resolution claims to assert Israel's right > to defend its sovereignty but actually signals to Israel that the U.S. > will unconditionally back Israeli use of military force against Iran. > It's a green light to war." > > Are we staring at yet another war? > > Linda > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Jul 29 11:11:34 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Corporations are not people. Message-ID: <916562.76540.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Ralph Nader To: carolineyacoub at att.net Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 9:44:18 AM Subject: Corporations are not people. Friend, If one central issue drove our campaign, it was subordinating corporate power to people power. The Supreme Court underscored the urgency of this project in January, when it ruled that corporations have the free speech rights that belong exclusively to living, breathing humans. The First Amendment guarantees corporations the right to spend whatever they choose to influence election outcomes, the Court ruled. But corporations are not humans, to state a truism apparently not evident to the Court's five-justice majority. We have to take action to rescue our democracy from corpocracy. Please read the note below from Robert Weissman, the president of Public Citizen, an organization I founded almost 40 years ago to confront and curtail excessive corporate power. Ralph Nader ________________________________ Add your name to the tens of thousands demanding a constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court ruling that will allow corporations to take over our democracy. Friend, Pick up a copy of the U.S. Constitution. Can you find the word corporation in it? You cannot. The U.S. Constitution guarantees you and me - living, breathing human beings, citizens of the United States - the right to free speech. In one of the greatest affronts to our democracy ever, however, five justices of the U.S. Supreme Court decided in January, in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, that corporations have free speech rights just like you and me. And, decreed the Court, that includes the right to spend whatever corporations like to support or oppose candidates for elected office. We can't afford to let this decision stand! Sign Public Citizen's petition calling for a constitutional amendment to overturn this corporate coup. And then forward this message to five friends. We're going to win this fight, but it's going to take a mass mobilization. If you care at all about the value of your vote and the future of American democracy, or about reforming health care, reining in Big Oil, halting climate change, reregulating Wall Street, stopping consumer ripoffs, or promoting a just trade policy, I urge you to act now and sign the petition. Our petition calls upon Congress to pass and send to the states for ratification a constitutional amendment to restore the First Amendment and fair elections to the people. It specifies that corporations do not have First Amendment speech rights. Yes, corporations already pour money into politics. But things can get worse. And, after the Supreme Court's decision, they will. Consider this: In the most recent election cycle (2007-2008), a little over $5.2 billion was spent on all 468 congressional races and the presidential contest combined. In the same time frame, ExxonMobil registered profits of $85 billion. $85 billion. Seventeen times the total amount spent on federal election contests. So, in just one election cycle, a tiny fraction of Exxon's profits could be used to buy our politicians. Lock, stock and barrel. There are measures available to mitigate the harm from the decision. We must have public financing of elections. We need better donor disclosure rules. The federal government should refuse to buy goods and services from any company with a federal contract (and states and locales should act similarly). Shareholders should be required to approve any corporate political expenditure by an affirmative vote. Public Citizen is working on all of these. But while these measures can offset the damage from Citizens United, the only way to get corporate money out of our elections is to overturn the decision itself. That requires a constitutional amendment. Corporations are not people, and they are not entitled to the First Amendment's protections of the expressive and democratic participative rights of real, live human beings. The only way to get that job done is with a constitutional amendment overturning Citizens United and establishing the principle that the First Amendment and our democracy belong to We, the People, not Exxon, GE or Walmart. So, please sign the petition, and then forward this message to five friends. Onward, Robert Weissman President, Public Citizen To get regular e-alerts about opportunities for activism and other ways to help with Public Citizen's work, sign up for the Public Citizen Action Network. If you do not want to receive future emails from Public Citizen, go to http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=eSbnzQ7Qp%2Fgrb9KfgMo7w%2FvkS3ldGJpf. Contribute | ? 2010 Public Citizen | Take Action -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Jul 29 11:53:19 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] candidate info In-Reply-To: <4C49D4F4.5050302@sbcglobal.net> References: <4C49D4F4.5050302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <714377.6685.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Today the Merc broke down current support for gubernatorial candidates into Meg Whitman/Jerry Brown/Undecided. Personally, I object to being called "Undecided."so I think we should let them know that that is not responsible journalism. Anybody up for writing that letter? Maybe the person who is responsible for candidates? Caroline ________________________________ From: Jim Doyle To: sosfbay discussion group Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:44:20 AM Subject: [GPSCC-chat] candidate info GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply.? Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **please note that the Candidate Questionnaire previously emailed had an incorrect return date of September 22. It is actually August 5th. Fellow Greens, Please advise me, as co-coordinator of Candidates & Candidates Working Group (CCWG) whether you are aware of any local candidates running for non-partisan office in your area?. I believe the deadline for filing is August 6th. We have some funds available (very little!) and our working group can make recommendations to the Campaign Fund Support Committee (CFSC) who will make final allocation decisions. CCWG's next teleconference is August 11th, and we hope to have our final recommendations ready by that point. The candidates must have their local party endorsement and must provide an FPCC # if applicable. ($1,000 in contributions or more) I've attached a Questionnaire that the CFSC will be using to help determine fund allocations. Please provide that to new candidates in your area. Please let them know that we'd like to have the completed Questionnaires by August 5th. Let me know who the candidates are and what office they are running for. Its even better to give me their contact info or have them contact me directly at: Kendra Gonzales / earthworks_works at yahoo.com 805-419-4623 Thank you! _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 29 17:13:25 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:13:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Santa Teresa Commiunity Fest Message-ID: <4C521925.3090602@sbcglobal.net> This just in - 7-29-2010. Note that their announcement has a 7 week lead time. Welcome to CommunityFest 2010! CommunityFest is the largest outdoor festival in South San Jose , and offers you a unique opportunity to increase your visibility and connect with our community. Join us for this fun and productive day! Our wonderful participants, entertainers, and vendors have made CommunityFest an event of excellence in our community. We appreciate your support and invite you to join us once again as we unite the South San Jose community for this fun family and neighborhood event, featuring live entertainment, local resources and information, and vendors of unique and wonderful items. CommunityFest Saturday, September 18, 2010 George Page Park Santa Teresa Blvd. @ Miyuki Drive 11:00 am -- 5:00 pm www.CommunityFest.com From jgshurt69 at aol.com Fri Jul 30 21:32:17 2010 From: jgshurt69 at aol.com (jgshurt69 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:32:17 -0400 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Meeting this Sunday in Burlingame In-Reply-To: <8CCFE806B6A0BB3-151C-1363D@webmail-m030.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CCFE806B6A0BB3-151C-1363D@webmail-m030.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CCFE807DCE63B9-151C-1364F@webmail-m030.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: jgshurt69 at aol.com To: gpsmc-d at cagreens.org Sent: Fri, Jul 30, 2010 9:31 pm Subject: Meeting this Sunday in Burlingame People of CA 12......Constituents of Rep. Jackie Speier2PM...Sunday... August 1st....1130 Broadway, BurlingameMake Your Green Voice Heard in Washington, D.C.If you are not a resident of CA12...please come anyway.Pelosi and Obama don't live here either.Before that...on Sunday at 9AM..hear Nader on CSpan2Don't Miss It...Jeffrey in San Bruno