[GPSCC-chat] Sub Zero in San Jose & Tian's Graphic Expertise...

[spencerg]

Hi, Cameron, et al.:


       How can I find the public Wiki you mentioned?


       I don't see the need to control too tightly the access to a Green 
Wiki.  As long as we designate honestly Green editors for our Green 
Wiki, I don't think we are likely to seriously lose control of content.  
If Libertarians or Tea Party people add content to our Wiki, we split 
the page in half and provide a contrasting perspective on the left with 
their perspective on the right.  If our perspective is better 
researched, I think that will show, and we will attract readers, some of 
whom will become new members.  If our position is not better researched, 
then we either need to decide if our lack of research is due to lack of 
resources or that the evidence is against us.  If the evidence is 
against us, we need to change.  If we don't have the resources to manage 
all the contributions, that's another problem.  However, the success of 
Wikipedia suggests that we will attract enough positive contributions 
that we'll be ahead on the average.  The issues where Libertarians or 
Tea Party people or Newscorp overwhelm us will be a small price to pay 
for opening something that actually attracts attention!


       The biggest problem we have right now is that we are 
marginalized.  If we open a Green Wiki to everyone, and it dies, we 
won't have lost much.  If Newscorp tries to take it over, we can try to 
control it through our powers as editors -- and if that fails, we shut 
it down.  If we find a way to get it to grow more sensibly, I think it 
will attract contributions from people who might not think about us 
otherwise, and many of those will join us.


       I'm concerned that one of the reasons we are not growing may be 
that we've tried to control too much in the past.  I'm thinking 
specifically of the Green opposition to an open primary (not counting 
Prop 14):  What evidence is there that allowing others to vote in the 
Green primary would actually be bad for the Green party?  I've seen the 
hypothetical argument for that.  However, there is also the reality that 
my wife registered Democrat so she could vote in the Democratic 
primary.  I suspect she's not the only one, and I suspect we may have 
lost more than we've gained by that position.  With Prop 14, this may be 
moot now.  However, I'd like to know if this decision was made on 
evidence or on "data independent thinking" (i.e., logic based on 
possibly faulty premises).


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


On 6/15/2010 8:19 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>    
>> I suggest we create a Green Wiki with Wikinews,
>>      
> We already have our own public Wiki.  I suggest we retain
> control of our own content, instead of trusting it to a
> trendy Web 2.0 startup that could die or get swallowed by
> Newscorp tomorrow.  Drop me a line and I'll get you started.
> Make a GP of SCC page there and we can frame it on the page
> we have now.  Go Spencer go!
>
> -Cameron
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