From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat May 1 21:02:18 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 21:02:18 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] call for agenda items Message-ID: <4BDCF94A.6020302@sbcglobal.net> Submit your agenda items, avoid the last minute rush. Thus far we have 1) endorsement 2) food for thought 3) green focus and since the next to the last posting we have added 4) tabling reports 5) LWV fora 6) regional rep 7) no on 14 bookmarks and since the last posting there have been no further additions. Jim Doyle From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun May 2 10:05:00 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Tuesday in San Jose:Fight corporate influence in democracy Message-ID: <126106.2048.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Steve M. wrote: From: Steve M. Subject: Tuesday in San Jose: Fight corporate influence in democracy To: "Caroline Yacoub" Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:14 AM #yiv2052175385 , #yiv2052175385 td, #yiv2052175385 font {font-size:10pt;} #yiv2052175385 #yiv2052175385 td p {margin:0em;} #yiv2052175385 p {margin:1em 0em;} #yiv2052175385 td div p {margin:1em 0em;} #yiv2052175385 #yiv2052175385 .X0uMP p {margin:1em 0;} San Jose Community Forum: Make Democracy Work for the Rest of Us! Big corporations have stood in the way of the changes we need on Wall Street reform, health care, clean energy, and more. We're meeting up to discuss how we make Washington work for the 98% of us who don't have big-time lobbyists representing us in DC. Here are the event details: Host: Steve M. and your local MoveOn Council Where: Cambrian Branch Library (in San Jose) When: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM What: MoveOn members are meeting up at a community forum in San Jose Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM to talk about how our democracy is being overrun by lobbyists and big corporations?and what we can do about it.? Can you make it to this community forum? Click here for more details and to RSVP: I can come. Sorry, I can't make it this time. For more info and to find other events in your area, click here. And don't worry, this email was sent through the MoveOn system, so your personal contact info is kept private. ? Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members?no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here. PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://pol.moveon.org/. 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Could we first try to contact the organizers for this event to see if the would permit us to distribute, e.g., half page fliers with a preliminary announcement plus bookmarks with minimal detail? Below please find draft text for an announcement. We need to add to this a link to "www.cagreens.org/santaclara". I can draft a bookmark DRAFT ANNOUNCEMENT Food for Thought Saturday, 22 May 2010 Public Discussion of Three Issues 1)Abusive Banks: The nature of the current global economic crisis, and how we can protect ourselves individually and collectively. Discussion leader: Spencer Graves, PhD 2)1)Proposition 14: Official title: "Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections." Effect: In Louisiana and Washington state, it virtually ensured reelection of incumbents while eliminating third parties from the general election and even from political life. Discussion leader: 3)Proposition 15: Official title: "California Fair Elections Act." Effect: Public funding for candidates for California Secretary of State in 2014 and 2018. Demonstration project for wider public funding. Discussion leader: ################################## On 5/2/2010 10:05 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Steve M. wrote: > > > From: Steve M. > Subject: Tuesday in San Jose: Fight corporate influence in democracy > To: "Caroline Yacoub" > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:14 AM > > > > > #yiv2052175385 , #yiv2052175385 td, #yiv2052175385 font {font-size:10pt;} > #yiv2052175385 > #yiv2052175385 td p {margin:0em;} > #yiv2052175385 p {margin:1em 0em;} > #yiv2052175385 td div p {margin:1em 0em;} > #yiv2052175385 > #yiv2052175385 .X0uMP p {margin:1em 0;} > > > > > > > San Jose Community Forum: Make Democracy Work for the Rest of Us! > > Big corporations have stood in the way of the changes we need on Wall Street reform, health care, clean energy, and more. We're meeting up to discuss how we make Washington work for the 98% of us who don't have big-time lobbyists representing us in DC. Here are the event details: > > > > > > Host: Steve M. and your local MoveOn Council > > Where: Cambrian Branch Library (in San Jose) > > When: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM > > > > > What: MoveOn members are meeting up at a community forum in San Jose Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM to talk about how our democracy is being overrun by lobbyists and big corporations?and what we can do about it. > > > Can you make it to this community forum? > > Click here for more details and to RSVP: > > > > I can come. > > > > Sorry, I can't make it this time. > > For more info and to find other events in your area, click here. > > And don't worry, this email was sent through the MoveOn system, so your personal contact info is kept private. > Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members?no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. 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Sun opinion poll on new immigration law in Arizona Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 23:47:53 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Size: 6696 URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon May 3 10:21:26 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 10:21:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [CAclean] Paid Prop 15 Organizer Opportunities] Message-ID: <4BDF0616.9080603@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [CAclean] Paid Prop 15 Organizer Opportunities Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:37:05 -0700 From: Trent Lange Reply-To: Trent.Lange at caclean.org Organization: California Clean Money Campaign To: Prop 15 and Fair Elections supporters -- The Prop 15 campaign is looking for two paid organizers, one in Los Angeles and one in the Bay Area, with at least two cycles experience with field or community organizing and extensive experience using the VAN for phonebanking, to start immediately. Please circulate the below to whichever of your lists or friends might have somebody with that kind of experience. Details blow. Thanks! Prop 15 Northern and Southern California Organizers Opportunity Position: Field Organizer Location: Southern California & Northern California Date to Start: Immediately Salary: $3,000 a month The Yes on 15 campaign is a grassroots campaign to pass the "California Fair Elections Act" on the June statewide ballot. The California Fair Elections represents a historic opportunity to start ending the outrageous amounts of money in politics by passing public financing of campaigns to get politicians out of the fundraising game. The campaign is co-chaired by the California Clean Money Action Fund, California Common Cause, the California Nurses Association, and the League of Women Voters of California We need someone who is: ? Aggressive, energetic, innovative and motivated by the prospect of a grassroots campaign. ? Leaders in the community, possessing a strong work ethic. ? Good time management skills, detail oriented, and can work long hours independently. ? Outgoing and willing to share their personal story with others in the community. ? Can exceed goals and meet deadlines in a fast paced environment. ? Ability to work in a team atmosphere with a positive attitude and a good sense of humor. ? Has a car and can travel often. Responsibilities include: ? Implementing the field plan ? Volunteer recruitment and management ? Working with coalition partners and longtime volunteer coordinators ? Event building and advance preparation ? Executing voter contact through phone banking and canvassing ? Data entry and maintaining data integrity ? Conducting outreach to grassroots activists and organizations Ideal applicants will have the following skills and experience: ? 2+ cycles of experience with field or community organizing including targeting, training, voter identification, and get-out-the-vote drives ? Knowledge of California politics a plus ? Working knowledge of the VAN and Microsoft Office programs ? Strong oral and written communication skills and personal organizational skills ? Ability to work long days and irregular hours and maintain a positive, energetic attitude ? Bachelor?s degree or equivalent practical experience For more information on Proposition 15 and the Yes on Proposition 15 campaign, visit www.YesOnProp15.org . To apply, please email your cover letter and resume to resumes at YesOnProp15.org or fax them to 888-633-8898. Trent Lange Chair, Yes on Proposition 15: Californians for Fair Elections (310) 428-1556 www.YesOnProp15.org Yes on Proposition 15! 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Alex Walker Los Angeles Greens = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Leave a Comment at: http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/05/5-reasons-to-vote-no-on-prop-14-top-2.html = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = [Editor's Note: This commentary was originally posted on Green Change] Published by Green Change, April 27, 2010 The top five reasons for Californians to reject Top Two Primaries by Dave Schwab On 8 June 2010, voters in California will decide the fate of Proposition 14, the Top Two Primaries Act. If Top Two primaries are adopted, all candidates for Congress and state office in California will run in the June primary on a single ballot used by all voters. Then, only the two candidates who receive the two highest vote totals will be allowed to run in the general election. Proponents of Top Two, aware that California voters rejected the idea in 2004, have been claiming that Top Two will fix California's government by reducing partisan gridlock. There is nothing from the experience of the states that use Top Two to support their claims. However, there is ample evidence that Top Two further entrenches incumbents and reduces voter choice. In fact, it's more than likely that Top Two would reinforce gridlock and entrench the same politicians who created it. Top Two won't work. Top Two is unpopular. Two is undemocratic. Top Two is unconstitutional. Two is unecessary. Close consideration shows not only that Top Two won't work, but also that it is unpopular, undemocratic, unconstitutional, and unnecessary. There are many good election reforms that deserve support, but Proposition 14 is not one of them. Let's explore the top five reasons for California voters to reject Top Two: 1. Top Two won't work. Proponents claim that Top Two will reduce partisanship in elections, the supposed cause of dysfunction in California state government. There is nothing in the experience of the states that have used Top Two, Louisiana and Washington, to suggest that it reduces partisanship. To be honest, backers of Proposition 14 should be saying that Top Two entrenches incumbents. When Washington used Top Two for the first time in 2008, out of 123 state legislative races, 8 Congressional races, and 8 statewide races, only a single incumbent was defeated in the primary - a state legislator who had a personal scandal and would almost certainly have been defeated under any system. The claim that Top Two will reduce gridlock in California's legislature is baseless. In the words of election law expert Richard Winger, "The real cause of gridlock in the California legislature is the rule that budgets can only be passed by a two-thirds vote of each house of the legislature? The real solution to solve California's budget gridlock is to eliminate the rule that the budget can only be passed with two-thirds of the legislators in each house? We should let the majority party in the legislature govern. If the voters elect a majority party, let that majority party pass its budget. If we don't like that budget, we not only have recall, initiative or referendum, we can defeat the majority party in the next election and replace it." Top Two would front-load the election season with an early, make-or-break primary. In the short season before the primary, the advantage to candidates with the money to bombard voters with advertising would be multiplied many times over. In an era where special interests and their front groups can funnel billions of dollars into political campaigns, independent candidates who run on good ideas and grassroots organizing will find it virtually impossible to compete with well-funded political insiders. It's unrealistic, too, to expect that the press will counter this imbalance by providing the voters with fair and balanced coverage. The media already pays more attention to political horse races than to candidates' positions on the issues. If Top Two is passed, it's improbable that the media will suddenly make the extra effort to fully inform the voters about all their choices before the primary. More likely, media outlets will simply try to pick the likely Top Two winners based on how well known and well-funded they are, and largely ignore the other candidates. The claim that Top Two will solve California's political problems has no factual basis. In fact, the evidence suggests that it could make existing problems worse. Perhaps most unrealistic is the idea that limiting voters' choices in the general election will somehow make politics better. Aside from incumbent politicians, who honestly believes that giving voters less choice in elections will improve anything? 2. Top Two is unpopular. In 2004, California voters rejected Top Two by voting 54% against Proposition 62. In 2008, voters in nearby Oregon rejected Ballot Measure 65, which would have established a Top Two system, in a landslide of 66%. On the other hand, instant runoff voting, an improved voting system that protects voter choice, has won approval from voters in San Francisco, Berkeley, Davis, and Oakland by margins of 56%, 72%, 55%, and 69%, respectively. Charter amendments authorizing use of instant runoff voting, or IRV, have passed in San Leandro and Santa Clara counties. After using IRV for the first time, 82% of San Francisco voters said they preferred IRV to the city's previous election system. The numbers don't lie: instant runoff voting is as popular as Top Two is unpopular. So why are political insiders pushing for Top Two, which has recently been rejected by Californians and a full two-thirds of voters in Oregon? 3. Top Two is undemocratic. By design, Top Two restricts voter choice. By cutting down the field of candidates in primary season, which is notoriously dominated by big-spending special interests and party bosses, Top Two guarantees that most independent and third-party candidates, as well as grassroots candidates in the major parties, will be out of the race before most voters and journalists are even paying attention. Opposition to Top Two from numerous election reform groups, as well as voices from across the political spectrum, demonstrates Americans' basic understanding that limiting voter choice runs counter to the idea of democracy. Voters should have the right to vote for the candidates and parties they agree with, and the public discourse suffers when independent voices are cut out of the debate. Proponents of Top Two often claim that it won't hurt third parties and independents. Richard Winger of Ballot Access News, America's leading expert on ballot access laws, explains why this is false: "In practice, [Top Two] would eliminate minor party and independent candidates from the November ballot. We know this is true because Washington State tried the system for the first time in 2008, and that's what happened. Washington, for the first time since it became a state in 1889, had no minor party or independent candidates in November for any statewide state race or for any congressional race." Top Two would effectively restrict voter choice to two parties - or one party in many districts. Although the Constitution makes no mention of political parties, the practical effect of Top Two would be to give the Democratic and Republican parties a monopoly on power. Which leads to the next problem with Top Two: 4. Top Two is unconstitutional. Americans' First Amendment right to association gives us the right to support any political party we choose. The right of political parties to run candidates for office is violated when the electoral system is set up to make it easy for dominant parties to push everyone else off the ballot. If the Democratic and Whig parties had passed laws to protect incumbent politicians and ruling parties in the 19th century, we would probably never have had a President Abraham Lincoln or a Republican Party. Proposition 14 would immediately disqualify the Libertarian and Peace and Freedom parties, further violating their members' First Amendment right to free association. America's founders warned that political parties could try to use their power to further their own narrow self-interest. What would they think about a proposed law that would give two parties a virtual stranglehold on elections? 5. Top Two is unnecessary. Instant runoff voting, an improved voting system used in San Francisco and other California cities, actually delivers the benefits that Top Two is supposed to, without the drawbacks that make Top Two worse than the status quo. Even with more than two candidates on the ballot, instant runoff voting, or IRV, ensures that the candidate with the broadest support will be the winner. Under IRV, voters rank the candidates in their order of preference - as election reform advocates say, "IRV is as easy as 1, 2, 3." If no candidate receives a majority of first-place votes, the candidate with the least votes is eliminated, and votes for the eliminated candidate are transferred to voters' next choices. This process continues until one candidate has a majority. Instant runoff voting has several clear advantages. It eliminates the common problem of "spoiled elections", in which one candidate wins without majority support. In the same way, it eliminates the problem of similar candidates "splitting the vote", and actually encourages positive campaigning, since it creates an incentive for candidates to appeal to their rivals' supporters. Finally, since IRV produces a majority winner no matter how many candidates are on the ballot, it allows for an informative and broad debate during election season, with voters exposed to a range of views before making their decision. Top Two is a deeply flawed system in comparison with instant runoff voting. With Top Two, vote-splitting will still be a problem in multi-candidate races. Negative campaigning will become the norm under Top Two: like a game of king of the mountain, candidates will throw each other in the mud in hopes of coming out on top. Realistically, Top Two will not accomplish what its proponents claim, aside from producing false "majority winners" selected by a plurality of a minority of voters. In other words, when 10% of voters turn out for the Top Two primary and vote 40% for Candidate A and 35% for Candidate B, that doesn't mean that the other 92.5% of voters are going to feel that they have a satisfactory choice in either Candidate A or B. If Top Two passes, the political discourse will suffer, because the period between June primaries and November elections, currently the most active time for public debate, will be purged of the independent, third party, and grassroots candidates who so often bring fresh, innovative ideas to politics. Instead, the range of opinions voters hear will be restricted to two, often coming from candidates in the same party. Instead of front-loading the election cycle with a make-or-break Top Two primary, instant runoff voting would allow all candidates to compete in the general election, when the vast majority of voters actually turn out. Voters would get to hear and consider viewpoints from a wider range of candidates in the general election, not just two candidates who may well belong to the same party. After considering what all the candidates have to say, voters could get out their instant runoff ballots and support the candidates they agree with most, without fear of inadvertently helping the candidates they agree with least. Maybe that's why voters prefer IRV: instead of feeling pressured to support the lesser of two evils, they can support their favorite candidates - whether liberal, conservative, moderate, Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, Peace and Freedom, American Independent, or just plain independent - and know that their vote won't be wasted. Instant runoff voting produces winners with broad majority support more reliably than Top Two, and without the problems that make Top Two worse than no reform. Why should voters accept an unnecessary and flawed system, when a better system is already gaining ground throughout California? The top five reasons to reject Top Two - plus one To recapitulate, Top Two won't work - at least not like proponents claim it will. Top Two is unpopular - voters recently rejected it in California and Oregon. Top Two is undemocratic - it restricts voter choice and suppresses independent voices outside the two-party political establishment. Top Two is unconstitutional - it violates our civil rights by giving two parties an effective monopoly on power. Finally, Top Two is unnecessary, when instant runoff voting is better on all counts. One last reason to vote against Proposition 14: Top Two is a top-down proposal. Ballot measures like Proposition 14 always seem to come from political insiders, usually with the backing of wealthy special interests to help advertise the alleged benefits of Top Two to a skeptical public. Indeed, Proposition 14 was placed on the ballot as part of a vote-trading deal by State Senator Abel Maldonado, who felt Top Two could help his ambitions for higher office. Governor Schwarzenegger has funneled $500,000 from his personal PAC into the campaign for Top Two, including money from corporations like Chevron, PG&E, and Wal-Mart. Corporations that have donated directly to the Proposition 14 effort include Hewlett Packard, Blue Shield of California, and Pacific Life Insurance Company. In the words of election reformer Christina Tobin, who is running as the Libertarian candidate for California Secretary of State, "It is safe to assume that large corporations regulated by the state want to have government in their pockets. They want to maintain the two-party status quo." Instant runoff voting, on the other hand, always comes from the grassroots. Campaigns for IRV are led by active citizens, community organizers and voters' rights groups like FairVote, Californians for Electoral Reform, and the Coalition for Free and Open Elections (all of which are opposing Proposition 14). Referendum victories show that voters like the idea of IRV, and exit polls show that voters like how it works in practice. If the goal is to fix California's election system so that it will produce winners with majority support, why are Proposition 14's backers pushing the flawed, unpopular Top Two system instead of instant runoff voting? All Californians who value democratic freedoms and sincerely want better elections should vote no on Proposition 14. Even members of the Republican and Democratic parties, if they heed the founders' warnings about political factions, should recognize the danger of cementing the Democratic-Republican monopoly on power and vote no. You don't have to be a libertarian to value the civil and political liberties of your fellow Americans. For supporters of electoral reform, Top Two is just a distraction from the real goals of instant runoff voting and other worthy reforms like proportional representation. We have better options than Top Two - options that we might not know about today, if Top Two had been in place earlier to stifle independent voices in the public arena. Here's what you can do to help stop Top Two: Share this article with your friends and family. Write a letter to the editor of your local newspaper explaining why you oppose Proposition 14. Volunteer with Green Change to help stop Top Two. 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I know the co-chair of the local MoveOn Council and I think it is better to contact her, get her interested in what we are presenting at our Town Hall and ask her to contact her list of people and spread the word that way. Also, someone from our Green Party could go to this MoveOn discussion and talk to the individual people who are there. I have found this kind of networking to be very successful. Unfortunately, I am involved with a San Jose Peace Center event and can't go to the MoveOn discussion. Merriam In a message dated 5/3/2010 11:20:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carolineyacoub at att.net writes: --- On Sun, 5/2/10, spencerg wrote: From: spencerg Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Tuesday in San Jose:Fight corporate influence in democracy To: "Caroline Yacoub" Cc: "sosfbay-discuss" , "merriam" Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 12:50 PM Can we prepare some kind of announcement of our May 22 Food For Thought event ready to hand to this group by Tuesday evening? Could we first try to contact the organizers for this event to see if the would permit us to distribute, e.g., half page fliers with a preliminary announcement plus bookmarks with minimal detail? Below please find draft text for an announcement. We need to add to this a link to "_www.cagreens.org/santaclara_ (http://www.cagreens.org/santaclara) ". I can draft a bookmark DRAFT ANNOUNCEMENT Food for Thought Saturday, 22 May 2010 Public Discussion of Three Issues 1)Abusive Banks: The nature of the current global economic crisis, and how we can protect ourselves individually and collectively. Discussion leader: Spencer Graves, PhD 2)1)Proposition 14: Official title: "Elections. Increases Right to Participate in Primary Elections." Effect: In Louisiana and Washington state, it virtually ensured reelection of incumbents while eliminating third parties from the general election and even from political life. Discussion leader: 3)Proposition 15: Official title: "California Fair Elections Act." Effect: Public funding for candidates for California Secretary of State in 2014 and 2018. Demonstration project for wider public funding. Discussion leader: ################################## On 5/2/2010 10:05 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Steve M. __ (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=moveon-help at list.moveon.org) wrote: From: Steve M. __ (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=moveon-help at list.moveon.org) Subject: Tuesday in San Jose: Fight corporate influence in democracy To: "Caroline Yacoub" __ (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=carolineyacoub at att.net) Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:14 AM #yiv2052175385 , #yiv2052175385 td, #yiv2052175385 font {font-size:10pt;} #yiv2052175385 #yiv2052175385 td p {margin:0em;} #yiv2052175385 p {margin:1em 0em;} #yiv2052175385 td div p {margin:1em 0em;} #yiv2052175385 #yiv2052175385 .X0uMP p {margin:1em 0;} San Jose Community Forum: Make Democracy Work for the Rest of Us! Big corporations have stood in the way of the changes we need on Wall Street reform, health care, clean energy, and more. We're meeting up to discuss how we make Washington work for the 98% of us who don't have big-time lobbyists representing us in DC. Here are the event details: Host: Steve M. and your local MoveOn Council Where: Cambrian Branch Library (in San Jose) When: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM What: MoveOn members are meeting up at a community forum in San Jose Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM to talk about how our democracy is being overrun by lobbyists and big corporations?and what we can do about it. Can you make it to this community forum? Click here for more details and to RSVP: I can come. Sorry, I can't make it this time. For more info and to find other events in your area, click here. And don't worry, this email was sent through the MoveOn system, so your personal contact info is kept private. Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members?no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here. PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, _http://pol.moveon.org/_ (http://pol.moveon.org/) . Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. This email was sent to Caroline Yacoub on May 2, 2010. To change your email address or update your contact info, click here. To remove yourself from this list, click here. _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list _sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org_ (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org) _http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss_ (http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss) -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue May 4 03:48:31 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 03:48:31 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: Fw: Tuesday in San Jose:Fight corporate influence in... In-Reply-To: <493f0.457f612b.391123ba@aol.com> References: <493f0.457f612b.391123ba@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BDFFB7F.5020607@prodsyse.com> Dear Merriam: Thanks. I concur with your plan. I plan to attend. I think I need to see and hear what occurs at this event to help guess what might happen at ours. Might it be feasible for us to have a phone conversation before this event? Thanks, Spencer Graves M: 408-655-4567 On 5/4/2010 12:16 AM, MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote: > > Hi There, > > My suggestion is to wait on this. I am a member of MoveOn and although > they sure do get people out for these discussions most everyone is a Democrat > and I'm not so sure the local Council would be pleased to have the Green > Party handing out information about an event that is not a MoveOn event. I > know the co-chair of the local MoveOn Council and I think it is better to > contact her, get her interested in what we are presenting at our Town Hall > and ask her to contact her list of people and spread the word that way. > > Also, someone from our Green Party could go to this MoveOn discussion and > talk to the individual people who are there. I have found this kind of > networking to be very successful. Unfortunately, I am involved with a San > Jose Peace Center event and can't go to the MoveOn discussion. > > Merriam > > In a message dated 5/3/2010 11:20:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > carolineyacoub at att.net writes: > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, spencerg wrote: > > > From: spencerg > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Tuesday in San Jose:Fight corporate > influence in democracy > To: "Caroline Yacoub" > Cc: "sosfbay-discuss", "merriam" > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 12:50 PM > > Can we prepare some kind of announcement of our May 22 Food For Thought > event ready to hand to this group by Tuesday evening? > > > Could we first try to contact the organizers for this event to see if the > would permit us to distribute, e.g., half page fliers with a preliminary > announcement plus bookmarks with minimal detail? > > > Below please find draft text for an announcement. We need to add to this > a link to "_www.cagreens.org/santaclara_ > (http://www.cagreens.org/santaclara) ". I can draft a bookmark > > > DRAFT ANNOUNCEMENT > > > Food for Thought > > > Saturday, 22 May 2010 > > > Public Discussion of Three Issues > > > 1)Abusive Banks: The nature of the current global economic crisis, and > how we can protect ourselves individually and collectively. Discussion > leader: Spencer Graves, PhD > > > 2)1)Proposition 14: Official title: "Elections. Increases Right to > Participate in Primary Elections." Effect: In Louisiana and Washington state, > it virtually ensured reelection of incumbents while eliminating third > parties from the general election and even from political life. Discussion > leader: > > > 3)Proposition 15: Official title: "California Fair Elections Act." > Effect: Public funding for candidates for California Secretary of State in 2014 > and 2018. Demonstration project for wider public funding. Discussion > leader: > > ################################## > > On 5/2/2010 10:05 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Steve M. __ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=moveon-help at list.moveon.org) wrote: > > > > > > From: Steve M. __ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=moveon-help at list.moveon.org) > > Subject: Tuesday in San Jose: Fight corporate influence in democracy > > To: "Caroline Yacoub" __ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=carolineyacoub at att.net) > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > #yiv2052175385 , #yiv2052175385 td, #yiv2052175385 font {font-size:10pt;} > > #yiv2052175385 > > #yiv2052175385 td p {margin:0em;} > > #yiv2052175385 p {margin:1em 0em;} > > #yiv2052175385 td div p {margin:1em 0em;} > > #yiv2052175385 > > #yiv2052175385 .X0uMP p {margin:1em 0;} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > San Jose Community Forum: Make Democracy Work for the Rest of Us! > > > > Big corporations have stood in the way of the changes we need on Wall > Street reform, health care, clean energy, and more. We're meeting up to discuss > how we make Washington work for the 98% of us who don't have big-time > lobbyists representing us in DC. Here are the event details: > > > > > > > > > > > > Host: Steve M. and your local MoveOn Council > > > > Where: Cambrian Branch Library (in San Jose) > > > > When: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > What: MoveOn members are meeting up at a community forum in San Jose > Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM to talk about how our democracy is being overrun > by lobbyists and big corporations?and what we can do about it. > > > > > > Can you make it to this community forum? > > > > Click here for more details and to RSVP: > > > > > > > > I can come. > > > > > > > > Sorry, I can't make it this time. > > > > For more info and to find other events in your area, click here. > > > > And don't worry, this email was sent through the MoveOn system, so your > personal contact info is kept private. > > Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members?no > corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff > ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here. > > > > PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, _http://pol.moveon.org/_ > (http://pol.moveon.org/) . Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. > This email was sent to Caroline Yacoub on May 2, 2010. To change your email > address or update your contact info, click here. To remove yourself from > this list, click here. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > _sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org_ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org) > > _http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss_ > (http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss) > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue May 4 08:57:54 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 08:57:54 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: Fw: Tuesday in San Jose:Fight corporate influence in... In-Reply-To: <493f0.457f612b.391123ba@aol.com> References: <493f0.457f612b.391123ba@aol.com> Message-ID: <4BE04402.5040807@prodsyse.com> Dear Merriam: Might it be feasible to have our event "jointly sponsored" by the Greens and MoveOn? Greens do the work, MoveOn distributes the advertisement, etc.? Best Wishes, Spencer ########################### Thanks. I concur with your plan. I plan to attend. I think I need to see and hear what occurs at this event to help guess what might happen at ours. Might it be feasible for us to have a phone conversation before this event? Thanks, Spencer Graves M: 408-655-4567 On 5/4/2010 12:16 AM, MKmusic03 at aol.com wrote: > > Hi There, > > My suggestion is to wait on this. I am a member of MoveOn and although > they sure do get people out for these discussions most everyone is a Democrat > and I'm not so sure the local Council would be pleased to have the Green > Party handing out information about an event that is not a MoveOn event. I > know the co-chair of the local MoveOn Council and I think it is better to > contact her, get her interested in what we are presenting at our Town Hall > and ask her to contact her list of people and spread the word that way. > > Also, someone from our Green Party could go to this MoveOn discussion and > talk to the individual people who are there. I have found this kind of > networking to be very successful. Unfortunately, I am involved with a San > Jose Peace Center event and can't go to the MoveOn discussion. > > Merriam > > In a message dated 5/3/2010 11:20:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > carolineyacoub at att.net writes: > > > > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, spencerg wrote: > > > From: spencerg > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Tuesday in San Jose:Fight corporate > influence in democracy > To: "Caroline Yacoub" > Cc: "sosfbay-discuss", "merriam" > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 12:50 PM > > Can we prepare some kind of announcement of our May 22 Food For Thought > event ready to hand to this group by Tuesday evening? > > > Could we first try to contact the organizers for this event to see if the > would permit us to distribute, e.g., half page fliers with a preliminary > announcement plus bookmarks with minimal detail? > > > Below please find draft text for an announcement. We need to add to this > a link to "_www.cagreens.org/santaclara_ > (http://www.cagreens.org/santaclara) ". I can draft a bookmark > > > DRAFT ANNOUNCEMENT > > > Food for Thought > > > Saturday, 22 May 2010 > > > Public Discussion of Three Issues > > > 1)Abusive Banks: The nature of the current global economic crisis, and > how we can protect ourselves individually and collectively. Discussion > leader: Spencer Graves, PhD > > > 2)1)Proposition 14: Official title: "Elections. Increases Right to > Participate in Primary Elections." Effect: In Louisiana and Washington state, > it virtually ensured reelection of incumbents while eliminating third > parties from the general election and even from political life. Discussion > leader: > > > 3)Proposition 15: Official title: "California Fair Elections Act." > Effect: Public funding for candidates for California Secretary of State in 2014 > and 2018. Demonstration project for wider public funding. Discussion > leader: > > ################################## > > On 5/2/2010 10:05 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > --- On Sun, 5/2/10, Steve M. __ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=moveon-help at list.moveon.org) wrote: > > > > > > From: Steve M. __ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=moveon-help at list.moveon.org) > > Subject: Tuesday in San Jose: Fight corporate influence in democracy > > To: "Caroline Yacoub" __ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=carolineyacoub at att.net) > > Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > #yiv2052175385 , #yiv2052175385 td, #yiv2052175385 font {font-size:10pt;} > > #yiv2052175385 > > #yiv2052175385 td p {margin:0em;} > > #yiv2052175385 p {margin:1em 0em;} > > #yiv2052175385 td div p {margin:1em 0em;} > > #yiv2052175385 > > #yiv2052175385 .X0uMP p {margin:1em 0;} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > San Jose Community Forum: Make Democracy Work for the Rest of Us! > > > > Big corporations have stood in the way of the changes we need on Wall > Street reform, health care, clean energy, and more. We're meeting up to discuss > how we make Washington work for the 98% of us who don't have big-time > lobbyists representing us in DC. Here are the event details: > > > > > > > > > > > > Host: Steve M. and your local MoveOn Council > > > > Where: Cambrian Branch Library (in San Jose) > > > > When: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > What: MoveOn members are meeting up at a community forum in San Jose > Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 7:00 PM to talk about how our democracy is being overrun > by lobbyists and big corporations?and what we can do about it. > > > > > > Can you make it to this community forum? > > > > Click here for more details and to RSVP: > > > > > > > > I can come. > > > > > > > > Sorry, I can't make it this time. > > > > For more info and to find other events in your area, click here. > > > > And don't worry, this email was sent through the MoveOn system, so your > personal contact info is kept private. > > Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 5 million members?no > corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our tiny staff > ensures that small contributions go a long way. Chip in here. > > > > PAID FOR BY MOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, _http://pol.moveon.org/_ > (http://pol.moveon.org/) . Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. > This email was sent to Caroline Yacoub on May 2, 2010. To change your email > address or update your contact info, click here. To remove yourself from > this list, click here. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > _sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org_ > (http://us.mc812.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org) > > _http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss_ > (http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss) > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue May 4 11:50:11 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 11:50:11 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] proposed agenda for 5-5-2010 Message-ID: <4BE06C63.4080609@sbcglobal.net> Green Party of Santa Clara County Proposed Agenda for Wednesday May 5, 2009 Selection of Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, Vibes Watcher Introductions, Announcements, Finalizing Agenda Selection of Agenda Preparer for next meeting Treasurer's report: Candidate endorsement Tabling Events - selection of lead persons May 8 Saturday Berryessa Art and Wine Festival May 9 Sunday Mother?s Day May 29-31 Sat-Mon Memorial Day Weekend June 19-20 Juneteenth Green Focus ? How many to order No on 14 bookmarks leafletting possibilities ? request volunteers Topics: Pros and Cons of ballot measures * May 8, 2:30 pm (LWVSJ/SC with AAUW), Willow Glen Library * May 11, 7:00 pm, Mercy Housing, Plaza Maria Apts., 115 E. Reed St., San Jose * May 13, 7:30 am, Kiwanis Club * May 13, 6:30 pm, Santa Clara Lions Club, 1680 Martin Ave., Santa Clara * May 18, Independent Living Center, 2202 N. First St., San Jose Food for Thought May 22 Tabling reports SCU, SJSU, Junior State Regional Rep IRV in Santa Clara County Immigration Coalition for a Downtown Hospital From WB4D23 at aol.com Tue May 4 17:20:19 2010 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 20:20:19 EDT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] proposed agenda for 5-5-2010 Message-ID: <172a4.4de8f92a.391213c3@aol.com> In a message dated 5/4/2010 12:38:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net writes: Candidate endorsement This agenda item is unclear. If this is a proposal for the GPSCC to endorse a particular candidate, that should be reflected in the agenda item. If this is a proposal or discussion item about policy, in general, that should be indicated. Also note there is no indication of times for all agenda items. Warner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed May 5 12:50:26 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 12:50:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] final notice re Berryessa Festival Message-ID: <4BE1CC02.2000209@sbcglobal.net> May 4, 2010 Dear Community Row Participant: The Berryessa Art and Wine Festival committee invites you to Community Row! We will celebrate the 35th^ year of this community festival on Saturday, May 8, 2010. This year?s festival hours are 10:00 am to 5:00 pm. The address of the festival is 3050 Berryessa Road in San Jose (95132) on the grounds of Penitencia Creek Park. This is a link to the map: http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=San+Jose&state=CA&address=3050+Berryessa+Rd&zipcode=95132-2736&country=US&latitude=37.392194&longitude=-121.850596&geocode=ADDRESS *You will receive a 10?x10? space in Community Row. You must provide your own canopies, tables and chairs. Parking fills quickly at the park so you are encouraged to come early to set up. Volunteers will be available to help direct you to your space. * * * *Community Row and Business Row are to the west of the community center (on the right when facing the community center from Berryessa Road).* * * *Exhibitors may start setting up from 7:30 am. You must complete your set up by 9:30 am. You are reminded that you may NOT tear down your booth before the end of the festival because you indicate to the Community that the festival is over. Your cooperation is appreciated.* Sincerely, Sue McAllister Sue McAllister 408-621-9484 BAWF_CommunityRow at yahoo.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed May 5 12:53:56 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 12:53:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda for 5-5-2010 Message-ID: <4BE1CCD4.1040601@sbcglobal.net> Green Party of Santa Clara County Proposed Agenda for Wednesday May 5, 2009 Selection of Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, Vibes Watcher Introductions, Announcements, Finalizing Agenda Selection of Agenda Preparer for next meeting Treasurer's report: Candidate endorsement Tabling Events - selection of lead persons May 8 Saturday Berryessa Art and Wine Festival May 9 Sunday Mother?s Day May 29-31 Sat-Mon Memorial Day Weekend June 19-20 Juneteenth Green Focus ? How many to order No on 14 bookmarks leafletting possibilities ? request volunteers Topics: Pros and Cons of ballot measures * May 8, 2:30 pm (LWVSJ/SC with AAUW), Willow Glen Library * May 11, 7:00 pm, Mercy Housing, Plaza Maria Apts., 115 E. Reed St., San Jose * May 13, 7:30 am, Kiwanis Club * May 13, 6:30 pm, Santa Clara Lions Club, 1680 Martin Ave., Santa Clara * May 18, Independent Living Center, 2202 N. First St., San Jose Food for Thought May 22 Tabling reports SCU, SJSU, Junior State Regional Rep IRV in Santa Clara County Immigration Coalition for a Downtown Hospital From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed May 5 21:55:24 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 21:55:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Berryessa Art and Wine Festival reminder Message-ID: <4BE24BBC.3030405@prodsyse.com> > Berryessa Art and Wine Festival (10 minutes) Warner, Caroline, Dale > Volunteer to work the middle of the day, May 8, the day before Mother's day. Tian will help. Please come at noon. Dale & Werner will set up. 8:30 - noon. Tian noon - 3 or 4. Caroline & Dale will come the last 2 hours. Fred will also go noon - 3 or 4. Werner will email Fred. -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu May 6 00:55:09 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 00:55:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Food for thought flier Message-ID: <4BE275DD.1070100@aceweb.com> I made several changes from what was passed around at the meeting to make it fit on the flier. Then I talked it over with Miriam. Now I'm passing it out. If you have changes let me know ASAP. To print them for this weekend, the art needs to be done soon. If you just want to print a few and pass them out to friends, it's already okay for that. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Last weeks front page news: Arizona Law. 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San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu May 6 07:27:22 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 07:27:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Food for thought flier In-Reply-To: <4BE275DD.1070100@aceweb.com> References: <4BE275DD.1070100@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4BE2D1CA.5070202@prodsyse.com> Dear Tian: That's great. I have only a couple of minor observations, which can be ignored as you please. 1. I suggest you remove the "PhD" following my name. I put it there, because I thought it might increase response to the message. I don't think it matters much, but after thinking about it, I think the net effect will more likely be negative. Tom Campbell is an attorney with a PhD in economics. I've never seen him introduced as "Dr. Campbell" or anything similar. When his background is discussed, that will be mentioned, but otherwise not. I don't know, but I would suspect he has probably done some limited research and decided that tying "PhD" any closer to his name is more likely to reduce his impact that increase it. 2. I suggest you increase the size of your peace bicycle, especially the "Vote Peace" flag. "Vote Peace" was barely legible, even zooming in to the point that individual pixels appeared as squares. Best Wishes, Spencer On 5/6/2010 12:55 AM, Tian Harter wrote: > I made several changes from what was passed around at the meeting to > make it fit on the flier. Then I talked it over with Miriam. Now I'm > passing it out. If you have changes let me know ASAP. To print them > for this weekend, the art needs to be done soon. > > If you just want to print a few and pass them out to friends, it's > already okay for that. > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu May 6 09:23:28 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 09:23:28 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Artist needed: 4 puppets? In-Reply-To: <4BE275DD.1070100@aceweb.com> References: <4BE275DD.1070100@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4BE2ED00.3010508@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Do any of you know someone who would be willing and able to create a drawing of 4 puppets, with the first controlling the second controlling the third controlling the fourth controlling the first, crudely similar to the famous staircase drawings by Escher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascending_and_Descending; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._C._Escher)? The image in my mind's eye has the government (puppet 1) controlling business (puppet 2), which controls the media (puppet 3), which controls the public (puppet 4), which controls government. There are actually 16 different possible connections among these 4 sets of actors, and all are active to various degrees. These four are, I think, the most obvious and least controversial. Moreover, the drawing would get too messy and its appeal less universal if we added more than these four (or a different four). There is certainly a strong link with business directly controlling the government through our bribery system of campaign finance. However, that link would not work if a critical mass of the public stopped patronizing commercial media, who gets 75 percent (print media) to 100 percent (broadcasting) of their funding from advertising or web sites sponsored by big business and instead found and supported through small donations research into how businesses make billions from millions in campaign "contributions". I have several uses for this art. The most immediate use is the May 22 Food for Thought event, for which Tian just distributed a draft flier. I'm the primary featured speaker. I plan to discuss mention these issues whether or not I have such a drawing. Second, I want to write an article describing the phenomena it illustrates. I think there is a good chance of getting it published in a respected journal with a reasonable distribution. If that fails, we can put it on the web. In either case, I believe it will ultimately gain widespread notoriety. By giving away rights to copies, I believe there is a reasonable chance that the artist will be able to sell the original in a few years for a decent price. In addition, I think it will provide a platform for integrating multiple criticisms of our current political-media-military-industrial complex. Thanks, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri May 7 12:20:10 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 12:20:10 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Green Party wins seat in UK Parliament!] Message-ID: <4BE467EA.8010807@aceweb.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [G-C-F] Green Party wins seat in UK Parliament! Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 07:27:43 -0700 From: Lisa Taylor To: GCF References: <561952.72840.qm at web58003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/election_2010/8666445.stm > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Last weeks front page news: Arizona Law. I'm remembering "Arid-Zone-Ah!" -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Andrea > From: "Rob Means" > Date: May 6, 2010 10:22:04 PM PDT > To: > Subject: Walmart expansion - have your say! > The Milpitas City Council is scheduled to vote on the proposed Wal-Mart expansion on Tuesday, May 18. You have two opportunities to influence their decision. Either write or e-mail them before May 12th so they get your input ahead of the meeting. Or attend the meeting. It starts at 7:00 pm, with formal presentations on the expansion about 7:30 pm, and public testimony beginning around 8:00 pm. Speakers are limited to 3 minutes each. > > The opinions of Walmart and its supporters are at http://milpitascan.com/ > > Opposing opinions from the Milpitas Coalition for a Better Community are at www.stopmilpitaswalmart.com > > City Council e-mails are: > > rlivengood at ci.milpitas.ca.gov ? Mayor Bob Livengood > > apolanski at ci.milpitas.ca.gov ? Althea Polanski > > pmchugh at ci.milpitas.ca.gov ? Pete McHugh > > dgiordano at ci.milpitas.ca.gov ? Debbie Giordano > > agomez at ci.milpitas.ca.gov ? Armando Gomez > > The expansion will impact every other grocery store in Milpitas. Even if you don't speak to the Council, your presence with a sticker on your chest will send a strong message to the Council. (Look for the people handing out the stickers ? both pro and con.) Although most corporate plans are approved in Milpitas, several Bay Area communities have turned back Walmart plans. So, this could go either way - and your viewpoint will make a difference. Please Join In! > > > Is the Wal-Mart expansion good for Milpitas? > > The City of Milpitas is considering a proposal by Wal-Mart to expand the current store on Ranch Drive by 18,457 sq. ft., sell non-taxable grocery items, including alcohol, and to operate 24 hours per day 7 days per week. > > Come to the Milpitas City Council > > Tuesday, May 18th at 7 pm > > MILPITAS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS > > 455 E. 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Half a mile up on the right is the BAL.) 9/11 Myths Exposed: Firefighters, Architects and Engineers Re-investigate the Destruction of the Three World Trade Center Skyscrapers After almost nine years and numerous government investigations, many public misconceptions persist about the events of September 11, 2001, especially regarding the unprecedented destruction of the World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan. During this live multimedia presentation Seattle firefighter Erik Lawyer and SF Bay Area architect Richard Gage, AIA, will examine the myths surrounding the events at the World Trade Center. Using well-documented forensic evidence, news footage and eyewitness accounts, they seek to correct the public record. Some of the myths they will address: Only two towers collapsed that day Jet fuel fires melted the structural steel The fires were hot enough to weaken the structural steel The floors of each building collapsed like ?pancakes? The government investigations were thorough, complete and followed standard fire investigation procedures The government investigators tested for evidence of exotic accelerants and/or explosives The third building to collapse completely, WTC 7, suffered significant structural damage from the collapse of the Twin Towers The presentation will provide a factual rebuttal of these and other myths regarding the destructionof the World Trade Center. Speakers- Erik Lawyer is a 14-year veteran of the Seattle Fire Department and the founder of Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, an organization with over 100 firefighters callingfor a new investigation into the destruction of the WTC buildings. 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On Saturday, two of the most prominent Sept. 11 conspiracy theorists ? Bay Area architect Richard Gage and Seattle firefighter Erik Lawyer ? will be at the Bal Theatre to present what they think are holes in the official version of the events on that terrible day. They think the Twin Towers and a third building were destroyed by explosives. A demolitions expert and engineers will join them to discuss the collapse of the 110-story towers, as well as the 47-story 7 World Trade Center, which was not hit by an airplane, and has become a "smoking gun" for Sept. 11 conspiracy theorists. The National Institute of Standards and Technology, a division of the Commerce Department, released a study that said the building collapsed due to fire and damage caused by debris from the Twin Towers. Gage and Lawyer have given presentations across the country laying out arguments against the institute's conclusions, and they are calling for a new investigation. From: snug.bug at hotmail.com To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: Firefighters, Architects, Engineers for 9/11 Truth Sat. in San Leandro Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 22:55:20 -0700 I'm surprised Carol Brouillet has not promoted this event to this group. 1193 architects and engineers have signed on, calling for new 9/11 investigations. http://cms.ae911truth.org/ Saturday in San Leandro, Eric Lawyer from Firefighters for 9/11 Truth andRichard Gage from AE911Truth.org will speak and give a multimedia presentationabout 9/11 and Ground Zero. The Venue is the BAL Theatre, E 14th at 148th Ave. (From 880, take the Hesperian Blvd. exit. About two miles toward the hills, turn left on E 14th. Half a mile up on the right is the BAL.) 9/11 Myths Exposed: Firefighters, Architects and Engineers Re-investigate the Destruction of the Three World Trade Center Skyscrapers After almost nine years and numerous government investigations, many public misconceptions persist about the events of September 11, 2001, especially regarding the unprecedented destruction of the World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan. During this live multimedia presentation Seattle firefighter Erik Lawyer and SF Bay Area architect Richard Gage, AIA, will examine the myths surrounding the events at the World Trade Center. Using well-documented forensic evidence, news footage and eyewitness accounts, they seek to correct the public record. Some of the myths they will address: Only two towers collapsed that day Jet fuel fires melted the structural steel The fires were hot enough to weaken the structural steel The floors of each building collapsed like ?pancakes? The government investigations were thorough, complete and followed standard fire investigation procedures The government investigators tested for evidence of exotic accelerants and/or explosives The third building to collapse completely, WTC 7, suffered significant structural damage from the collapse of the Twin Towers The presentation will provide a factual rebuttal of these and other myths regarding the destructionof the World Trade Center. Speakers- Erik Lawyer is a 14-year veteran of the Seattle Fire Department and the founder of Firefighters for 9/11 Truth, an organization with over 100 firefighters callingfor a new investigation into the destruction of the WTC buildings. Richard Gage, AIA, has practiced architecture for over 20 years and is the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, an organization with over 1000 architects and engineers calling for a new 9/11 WTC investigation. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun May 9 10:54:33 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 10:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] leafletting opportunities In-Reply-To: <4BD8B63C.9060109@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <870954.53535.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We have quite a bit of No on Prop 14 literature (not as much as we had before Tian passed out a bunch at Berryessa). I cannot do evening things right now because of vision probs, but anybody who wants stuff to pass out? at these LWV events is welcome to come to my house Monday or Tuesday evening to pick some up. Caroline --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Jim Doyle wrote: From: Jim Doyle Subject: [GPSCC-chat] leafletting opportunities To: "sosfbay discussion group" Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:27 PM The League of Women Voters is sponsoring several forums on the pros and cons of ballot measures. Perhaps someone would like to distribute no on 14 info at these events. *PRO & CON Ballot Forums:* ???* May 8, 2:30 pm (LWVSJ/SC with AAUW), Willow Glen Library ???* May 11, 7:00 pm, Mercy Housing, Plaza Maria Apts., 115 E. Reed ? ???St., San Jose ???* May 13, 7:30 am, Kiwanis Club ???* May 13, 6:30 pm, Santa Clara Lions Club, 1680 Martin Ave., Santa ? ???Clara (sponsored by LWV Sunnyvale/Cupertino) ???* May 18, Independent Living Center, 2202 N. 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I cannot do evening things right now because of vision probs, but anybody who wants stuff to pass out at these LWV events is welcome to come to my house Monday or Tuesday evening to pick some up. > Caroline > > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Jim Doyle wrote: > > > From: Jim Doyle > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] leafletting opportunities > To: "sosfbay discussion group" > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:27 PM > > > The League of Women Voters is sponsoring several forums > on the pros and cons of ballot measures. > > Perhaps someone would like to distribute no on 14 info at > these events. > > *PRO& CON Ballot Forums:* > > * May 8, 2:30 pm (LWVSJ/SC with AAUW), Willow Glen Library > * May 11, 7:00 pm, Mercy Housing, Plaza Maria Apts., 115 E. Reed > St., San Jose > * May 13, 7:30 am, Kiwanis Club > * May 13, 6:30 pm, Santa Clara Lions Club, 1680 Martin Ave., Santa > Clara (sponsored by LWV Sunnyvale/Cupertino) > * May 18, Independent Living Center, 2202 N. 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Cynthia McKinney is listed as a speaker, but I have an unconfirmed report that family matters may prevent her attendance. Cindy Sheehan will attend as a journalist. http://understandingdeeppolitics.org/ The conference will explore the background to our descent into an increasingly Orwellian society. The last session, on Sunday afternoon, will discuss solutions. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gerry Brian Good wrote: > > 9:00 am, KQED 88.5 FM > > Proponents argue that the open primary will increase competition and > decrease hyper-partisanship. Opponents claim that the measure will > actually decrease voter choice. > > Guests: > > * Abel Maldonado, lieutenant governor of California and former state > senator (R-District 15) > * Eric McGhee, research fellow at the Public Policy Institute of > California > * Richard Winger, editor of Ballot Access News and board member for > the Free & Equal Elections Foundation, which is leading the "Stop > Top Two" campaign > > > * 866-SF-Forum > 866-733-6786 > * Email: > forum at kqed.org > > > > I've had my sound-bite emails read on the air on this program in > the past. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. Learn more. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon May 10 09:12:27 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:12:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] KQED's Krasny on Prop 14 Monday Morning References: <4BE82FB8.9010504@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4BE8306B.1070402@earthlink.net> 9-10 Elena Kagan 10-11 Prop 14 Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > According to what I heard at about 8:59, it will > be 10-11 AM instead?!? > > Gerry > > > Brian Good wrote: > >> >> 9:00 am, KQED 88.5 FM >> >> Proponents argue that the open primary will increase competition >> and decrease hyper-partisanship. Opponents claim that the measure will >> actually decrease voter choice. >> >> Guests: >> >> * Abel Maldonado, lieutenant governor of California and former state >> senator (R-District 15) >> * Eric McGhee, research fellow at the Public Policy Institute of >> California >> * Richard Winger, editor of Ballot Access News and board member for >> the Free & Equal Elections Foundation, which is leading the "Stop >> Top Two" campaign >> >> >> * 866-SF-Forum >> 866-733-6786 >> * Email: >> forum at kqed.org >> >> >> >> I've had my sound-bite emails read on the air on this program >> in the past. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your >> inbox. Learn more. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon May 10 10:13:10 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: DEEP POLITICS CONF AT UC SANTA CRUZ --MCKINNEY WILL SPEAK Message-ID: <759238.85736.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/9/10, shane que hee wrote: From: shane que hee Subject: DEEP POLITICS CONF AT UC SANTA CRUZ --MCKINNEY WILL SPEAK To: Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010, 9:26 PM From: fdorrel at sbcglobal.net Subject: "Understanding Deep Politics Conference" ~ May 14th-16th in Santa Cruz ~ With Cynthia McKinney, Peter Dale Scott, Michael Parenti, Peter Phillips, David Ray Griffin, Jim Marrs, Barrie Zwicker, Ellen Brown Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 09:48:37 -0700 Announcing the Understanding Deep Politics Conference With Speakers: Cynthia McKinney, David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Ellen Brown, Ian Crane, Annie Machon, Jim Marrs, Michael Parenti, Peter Phillips & Barrie Zwicker In one packed weekend, Understanding Deep Politics will bring together ten distinguished speakers and hundreds of concerned citizens for the purpose of challenging the mainstream perceptions of political reality - revealing the hidden forces behind many widely accepted historical and current events. This unprecedented and provocative conference will span three days, including an early Friday evening meet and greet get-together. Please join us at this sure-to-be-historic conference and be a part of the crucial effort to gain a critical, deeper understanding of the causes of our societal dilemmas as we work together to fashion new possibilities for the betterment of all. Conference Details: For complete information visit: http://understandingdeeppolitics.org Email Web Version: http://understandingdeeppolitics.org/email.html Early Bird Tickets until March 31st For tickets visit: http://understandingdeeppolitics.eventbrite.com/ For web banners visit: http://understandingdeeppolitics.org/?page_id=26 Conference voice mail: 707-672-4242 To make donations: Click here or mail to: Progressive Promotions P.O. Box 600, Bayside, CA 95524 The conference will take place at the UCSC Inn and Conference Center. 611 Ocean Street, Santa Cruz, CA 95060 Phone: 831-426-7100 Toll Free: 1-866-827-2466 Fax: 831-429-1044 Please contact the University Inn and Conference Center Reservations at 866-827-2466 and tell them you are booking for the ?Understanding Deep Politics? conference to get the conference rates. Please note ? you will not be able to book your reservations online. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon May 10 12:37:45 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 12:37:45 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Kagan? Message-ID: <4BE86089.1090208@earthlink.net> Listening to KQED this morning, on both KQED Forum and NPR Talk of the Nation, it seemed that there was little to be known about Kagan, but all in all she's ok. And then there is Norman Solomon's article ... "Kagan in Context: Shafting Progressive Values" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/10-0 Anybody know any more useful articles about Kagan? Her nomination will make a difference to the SC for a long time to come. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, expects she will be confirmed. Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon May 10 15:23:23 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:23:23 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] new canopy needed Message-ID: <4BE8875B.4040409@sbcglobal.net> Our canopy suffered some damage at the Berryessa Art and Wine Festival. The afternoon winds ripped a few spots and tore some others. Does anyone know where the best place is to shop for a repoacement? Must the replacement be as heavy as the current damaged one? Your thoughts, please. Jim Doyle From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon May 10 18:33:26 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 18:33:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Kagan? References: <4BE86089.1090208@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4BE8B3E6.6020808@earthlink.net> Here's Glenn Greenwald's comment: "Obama's Natural Choice of Kagan" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/10-3 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue May 11 09:41:40 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 09:41:40 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: [hq2600] From Cynthia McKinney: Wanted: Bike4Peace Riders and Hosts] Message-ID: <4BE988C4.1090808@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: [hq2600] From Cynthia McKinney: Wanted: Bike4Peace Riders and Hosts Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 19:43:51 -0700 From: Sanda Everette To: GPSMC-D References: For you Green bike riders out there.... perhaps a different way to spend a holiday this year. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: HQ > Date: Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:14 PM Subject: [hq2600] From Cynthia McKinney: Wanted: Bike4Peace Riders and Hosts To: updates at lists.allthingscynthiamckinney.com For a little way or all of the way!!!! Do something different: join me on a cross country bike ride!!!! Please study this route and let me know ASAP if you?re interested in participating all of the way or just a part of the way. Either way, we?d LOVE to have you along for the ride. Here?s the link for the map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106454352652415594542.0004759762facedbae928 We?re scheduled to start on July 24, 2010 at the House of Common Sense in Oakland and we?ll end up at the White House, that needs some common sense!!! Please let me know if you?re interested in joining us. You don?t have to be a pro biker--I?m not!!! But I have a lot of enthusiasm and a desire to change the world and to change myself. I?ll be a better person at the end of this ride because I?ll have time for introspection, time for hearing new points of view from fellow riders, time for hearing from people in towns I?ve never visited before. This will truly be for me, an adventure of a lifetime. And in the process, we?ll spread a message of truth, justice, peace, and dignity. At a time of seeming global chaos, join us and find tranquility (and probably some new leg muscles) out on the open roads of America. Riders will be joining us from Seattle, Vermont, and even from Canada! If you?re willing, we?ll make a way!!! Now, maybe you can?t ride with us, but you want to be involved. If so, please take a long look at the map again and consider hosting us overnight in your home, organization space, or place of worship. I know I?ll need someone who can ease my aching muscles just a little. Just know that every donation will be greatly appreciated. If you?d like to donate your time, money, or services, please let me know or contact Ron Toppi directly at ronbikes4peace at gmail.com ; or better yet, just go to http://www.b4p.bbnow.org/donate.php to make a donation. And at the end, maybe the White House will gain a bit of our good, old-fashioned common sense! No more war, bike for peace! Here?s the link again to our route: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106454352652415594542.0004759762facedbae928 and finally, if you?re not on my e-list, please send me a note to subscribe you to it so that we can stay in touch regularly, especially during the bike ride! -- http://dignity.ning.com/ http://www.enduswars.org http://www.livestream.com/dignity http://www.twitter.com/dignityaction http://www.myspace.com/dignityaction http://www.myspace.com/runcynthiarun http://www.twitter.com/cynthiamckinney http://www.facebook.com/CynthiaMcKinney http://www.youtube.com/runcynthiarun Silence is the deadliest weapon of mass destruction. _______________________________________________ Updates mailing list Updates at lists.allthingscynthiamckinney.com http://lists.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/listinfo.cgi/updates-allthingscynthiamckinney.com -- Sanda Everette, cochair GPCA delegation to GPUS co-chair GPUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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I prepared a separate report analyzing what the data means for California, including additional research looking at 2008 and 2009 federal funding allocations in the US and California to support the fruit, nut and vegetable sectors. The title of the report sums up the findings pretty well: Farm Subsidies in California: Twisted Priorities and Gross Inequities. You can find the report here: _http://bit.ly/accyi0 _ Here are three particularly compelling statistics that came out of my analysis: * California upland cotton growers received the largest portion of federal agricultural payments in the state in 2009, an estimated $198 million in taxpayer subsidies. This is the same amount that went to support the state's entire fruit, nut and vegetable sectors. Upland cotton growers generated just $105 million in revenue in 2008 or .3 percent of California's agriculture output while specialty crop growers who produce California's vast bounty of fruits, nuts and vegetables brought in $18.2 billion in 2008, or 50 percent of California's total agriculture output. Yet taxpayer dollars flow equally to both. (Most of the cotton subsidies were based on past, rather than actual production, which has declined by 80% since 2003). * In 2009, the top one percent of subsidy recipients in California, some 125 growers, reaped $57 million in subsidies, a whopping $453,000 per recipient. Ironically, that is precisely the amount spent on the Environmental Quality Incentive Program, the state's most important agricultural conservation program to help farmers conserve animal habitat, curb air and water pollution and reduce water use. Last year, the program turned away 4,200 farmers and ranchers, or 70 percent of applicants due to lack of funds. * In 2009, cotton and rice growers raked in $271 million or 66 percent of the $407 million in direct subsidies to the state. That's more than five times the amount spent for specialty crop research, extension, marketing and promotion and more than 20 times the amount spent to support local and regional food systems in the state. In a time of large federal deficits, the agricultural budget is a zero-sum game. Every dollar that goes into wasteful, inequitable programs cannot be committed to solving serious environmental problems, promoting local and sustainable organic food systems, increasing access to healthy foods, or building new opportunities for beginning and minority farmers. A better strategy is needed to help growers and ranchers of all sizes, sectors and regions cope with the myriad challenges facing agriculture. It is my deep hope that a broad alliance of groups can get a Farm Bill passed in 2012 that delivers far greater public health and environmental benefits for California and the nation, while ensuring a real safety net for all farmers and ranchers in tough times when losses occur that are beyond their control. I would welcome any questions, thoughts and reactions you have to our analysis. Best regards, Kari ______________ Kari Hamerschlag Senior Analyst Environmental Working Group 2201 Broadway Ave Suite 308 Oakland, Ca 94612 510-444-0973 x303 cell: 510-207-7257 _kari at ewg.org _www.ewg.org/agmag -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue May 11 23:07:48 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 23:07:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Karl Rove Challenged in Sacramento/Condi in San Jose Message-ID: Yay Code Pink! Don't let these guys think they can just walk around in public like they're respectable citizens. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WULIJasL00&feature=player_embedded Seems to me they should have recognized this lady from a similar occurrence at Moscone Center not too long ago, but hey if they're stupid and blind I can't help it. Speaking of stupid and blind, Condi Rice is speaking in San Jose Monday 5/17 at the San Jose Center for Performing Arts downtown. PPJC, SJCPJ, Code Pink, and Brian Good will be there. My own angle on it is Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows when she said the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo was not a warning. It warned of preparations for hijackings and planned attacks with explosives inside the United States. Here's the transcript of the memo: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/ See also this video of her testimony before the Commission (and the widows): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrgeuLb3dQ On 5/30/01 Condi was warned by the CIA of an upcoming al Qaeda attack. On 7/10/01 Condi was warned again by the CIA that an al Qaeda attack was imminent in the next few weeks or months. Later the CIA's Cofer Black will say "The only thing we didn't do was pull the trigger to the gun we were holding to her head." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000282_pf.html I'd like to leaflet but I can't hold the sign and leaflet. If anyone might be willing to help me leaflet maybe I'll print some. In any case I hope you can be there. The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed May 12 18:23:12 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 18:23:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Dr. Dahlia Wafsi on CommunityCurrency Radio Thurs. 2 pm Message-ID: http://www.communitycurrency.org/radioshow.html Born in the USA, Dr. Wafsi lived in Iraq as a child before returning to the USA. She speaks out in support of immediate, unconditional withdrawal of American forces from Iraq and Afghanistan and the need to end the occupation ?from the Nile to the Euphrates.? She will be speaking at this weekend's "Deep Politics" conference in Santa Cruz on Saturday at 10:45 am. http://understandingdeeppolitics.org/schedule The CommunityCurrency Radio program will be archived after the fact if you can't listen to it live at 2 pm http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/ Cynthia McKinney will not be able to make the conference after all, due to a family health crisis. Kristina Borjesson, editor of the book "Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press", will be appearing on Sunday afternoon. Taking Cythia's time slot in the keynote session Friday night will be Annie Machon, a former MI5 agent from the UK. 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Warm Regards, Ken and Sue From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu May 13 15:14:45 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Pentagon's Huge Role in Climate Change Message-ID: <879865.3498.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 5/13/10, Rosie Yacoub wrote: I think this could be the basis of a good new brochure on Peace. Anybody want to mke it? Caroline ? From: Rosie Yacoub Subject: Fw: Pentagon's Huge Role in Climate Change To: "Caroline Yacoub" Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 4:30 AM --- On Tue, 5/11/10,??- as the "hole into hell" spews oil into the Gulf of Mexico - I am making time to share this generally ignored information with you. ??????? Overall, there is disturbingly little (well, none!) discussion of the environmentally toxic impacts of war.? Obviously, war is bad for those directly killed, injured, displaced, impoverished, and orphaned.? And many folks have read or heard about the skyrocketing cancer rates in Iraq and parts of the former Yugoslavia, apparently due to the terrible and long-lasting effects of depleted uranium-clad weapons.? But there is so much more, including the many heavy metals and other toxins that poison the land from exploded bombs, rockets, and ordnance of all kinds. ??????? Here is a big part of the "so much more":? the Pentagon's impacts on catastrophic climate change.? As the article linked below says - ??????? By every measure, the Pentagon is the largest institutional user of petroleum products ? ??????? and energy in general. Yet the Pentagon has a blanket exemption in all international ??????? climate agreements. ?and - ??????? Even according to rankings in the 2006 CIA World Factbook, only 35 countries (out of ??????? 210 in the world) consume more oil per day than the Pentagon. ?and - ??????? At the time of the Kyoto Accords negotiations, the U.S. demanded as a provision of ??????? signing that all of its military operations worldwide and all operations it participates in ??????? with the U.N. and/or NATO be completely exempted from measurement or reductions. ??????? This article goes on to report how these exemptions - and, indeed, the blanket exemption mentioned above - have been rolled into the Copenhagen guidelines.? From there the article touches briefly on other war-related poisonings, such as the long-term effects of Agent Orange in Viet Nam. ??????? It's call-in week to protest the war in Afghanistan - details below.? It's long past time to rein in the Pentagon! ??????? Here's the link for "Pentagon's Role in Global Catastrophe: Add Climate Havoc to War Crimes": http://coto2.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/pentagons-role-in-global-catastrophe-add-climate-havoc-to-war-crimes/ Call in! ??????? Call 202-224-3121. Tell them it is time to reduce the number of troops in Afghanistan, not increase them. It is time to stop pouring billions of borrowed dollars into a failed and unecessary war - dollars the U.S. needs to borrow at a time of record debt. Also ask your elected representatives to support H.R. 5015, Redeployment of U.S. Troops from Afghanistan, and its sister bill in the Senate, S. 3197. These bills would require the President to provide a plan and timetable for "the safe, orderly, and expeditious redeployment of US troops from Afghanistan." -- ??????? /- -? - - - - - - - - - - - - -?????? - - - - - - - -? - - - - - - - -\ ??????? Dr. Kenneth Saltman, a widely read author of three books on ??? the subject and a professor at De Paul University in Chicago, is ?? slated to keynote the opening session at a school boards ?? convention on "Stopping the Pirates."? Quoting their publicity - ??????? "Dr. Saltman's thesis is that Charter schools and the destruction ?? of New Orleans, The Asian tsunami, school gentrification, No Child ?? Left Behind, Race to the Top and the invasion and occupation of Iraq, ?? are all connected.? What do these all have in common? For Saltman, ?? they are each illustrations of the latest phase of the neoliberal assault ?? on the hard won gains of people to protect the role of local government ?? to ensuring public education, housing and public ownership over natural ?? resources among other vital social services.? They provide, he suggests, ?? an opportunity to sway the public to accept actions they would not if ?? given time to react rationally." ? ??????? ??????? GoodSearch to Support WILPF ???????????????? The most painless option for creating an "income stream" for the ???????????? Women's Int'l League for Peace and Freedom (WILPF) via the sister ???????????? organization, the Jane Addams Peace Association (JAPA)!? Please, ???????????? use the link below to put the Goodsearch.com search engine button ???????????? at the top of your screen.? Register the Jane Addams Peace Asso- ???????????? ciation as your "charity" of choice.? Every time you use it to look ???????????? something up, it donates (a penny!) to JAPA! ????????????????? ??? ??????????? ???????????? ??????????????? ????????????????????? Darien De Lu * 916/739-0860 * conjoin at macnexus.org ????????? \________________****!!****_________________/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Never met Kari (the author) but I know her main squeeze... a compatriot from the Pombo Wars. http://www.sacbee.com/2010/05/15/2752085/cotton-is-king-of-unhealthy-subsidies.html From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat May 15 17:09:27 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 17:09:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Nader comments on Kagan Message-ID: <4BEF37B7.1020100@earthlink.net> "Getting to Know Elena Kagan" by Ralph Nader http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/15-6 Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun May 16 11:21:34 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 11:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Food 4 Thought Message-ID: <842244.30947.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 5/13/10, Caroline Yacoub wrote: From: Caroline Yacoub Subject: Food 4 Thought I'd like to invite you to our upcoming townhall on May 22, from 5:00-9:30 at First Christian Church, 80 S. 5th St., SJ 95112 ? Schedule: 5:00-5:30? appetizers, intro 5:30-6:30? dinner (sliding scale donation--$5-$20) 6:30-7:00 Live music 7:00-9:00? Speakers on Prop. 14, Prop. 15, Say No to Abusive Banks, Instant Run-off Voting, the state of health care legislation 9:00-9:30 informal discussion ? Brought to you by the Green Party of Santa C;lara County For more info cal (408)22-EARTH or? http://cagreens/sclara -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun May 16 21:10:46 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 21:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Letter to the Wash. Post: Response to Sessions column on the Supreme Ct & federal power Message-ID: <627125.78236.qm@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well said. Caroline --- On Sun, 5/16/10, shane que hee wrote: From: shane que hee Subject: Letter to the Wash. Post: Response to Sessions column on the Supreme Ct & federal power To: Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 3:21 PM From: Scott McLarty Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 14:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject:? Letter to the Wash. Post: Response to Sessions column on the Supreme Ct & federal power Response to "Americans look for Supreme Court to restrain federal power, not expand it," by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Al.) in The Washington Post, May 7, 2010 ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/06/AR2010050605016.html ) To the Editor, Sen. Jeff Sessions ("Americans look for Supreme Court to restrain federal power, not expand it," May 7) believes that the Citizens United ruling corrected government overreach when it asserted that the First Amendment's 'freedom of speech' guarantee allows corporations to run ads on behalf of candidates without legal limits. The real problem with the Supreme Court's ruling has to do with the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause. The original intent of the amendment was to protect blacks after the abolition of slavery. In 1886, the Court's Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad decision extended 14th Amendment coverage to corporations, recognizing them as "persons" under the US Constitution. With the enactment of Jim Crow laws at the time, constitutional rights were in effect transferred from African Americans to corporations. Corporations are not human. They are legal constructions. Corporate "personhood" created a species of powerful supercitizen that enjoys most of the rights of humans and few of the liabilities. The Citizens United ruling, by affirming corporate personhood and opening the floodgate on corporate ads for candidates, brings us to the brink of a paradigm in which government exists to serve the demands of big business instead of the interests of We The People. Progressives and Greens, taking the truly conservative position, favor restoring the requirement that corporations serve the public good and risk dissolution if they violate their charters or break the law. If Sen. Sessions were a genuine conservative, he would advocate a return to the status of corporations before corporate personhood began to erode our democracy. Scott McLarty Washington, DC NB: I am national media coordinator for the Green Party of the United States (http://www.gp.org) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrea has an outstanding receipt for food purchased?to be submitted. Spencer: Will report to Libertarian candidate Ed Gonzalez that SCC Green Party declines to endorse his candidacy. It was suggested that Greens refrain in general from endorsing any candidates other than Greens. Tabling: Caroline asked for help with setting up and tear down of the green canopy at the Berryessa Art and Wine Festival on May 8th. Spencer provided the list of people who volunteered at the last meeting. Andrea also volunteered to be there to help set up. Other ?opportunities? to table were: May 9th (Mother's Day), May 29-31 (Memorial Day Weekend), and June 19-20th (Juneteenth). We need a person to head up Juneteenth, traditionally one of our important events. Green Focus: Green Party state-wide candidates issue is being edited and is expected to be available at the printer in San Francisco in two days. Andrea volunteered to pick up two bundles (200 papers) for Berryessa tabling, if completed in time. A discussion of new literature followed. ?No on 14? bookmarks: Spencer brought the finished bookmarks. Although it was suggested that he increased the size of the graphic, they were turned over to the Berryessa committee to use for Berryessa. Also to be taken will be the new trifold ?No on 14? specifically designed by Dale Warner for Berryessa. New visitor Roy N requested a supply of our new literature to take door-to-door with other election materials; Tian will help supply him from the suitcase going to Berryessa. Tian has No on 14 buttons. Jim will put the needed artwork up on our state site. LWV leafletting possibilities: need people for various places to give out No on 14 and other literature. Dates are per Jim D: May 8th , 11th, 13th at two locations, 18th. Food for Thought scheduled for May 22nd: Merriam has location now? First Christian Church, cost will be $250; menu, chili; will ask for $10-20; discussion resulted in favorable consensus to pay for this event. Tian will do the final flyers in time for Berryessa. Spencer drafted and brought the information for F4Thought; also available are Spencer's abusive banking flyers, prop 14, prop 15; Nancy Neff will be there-also possibly Sally Lieber. Event was announced at MoveOn and had 8-9 signed up with Merriam to come. Tom will create a Facebook page for us and include the F4Thought event. Speaker, Jim S, will speak on ?No on 14.? Spencer has his handout for his talk on abusive banking. Tabling reports: Tian related what happened at SClaraU, SJoseSU, Jr State (JSA), and mentioned that Gaylord Nelson graduated from SJS. (Collections are included in Treasurer's Report above.) Regional Rep: Jim S reminded us that Cindy is resigning as Regional Rep; he wants us to get a replacement as he is not available to carry on; this is and has been a difficult position to recruit and to get someone who can carry this position. IRV: Jim S said that Steve Chessen lives in Mtn View and is the resource for IRV; Mtn View may get hit w/ implementation costs if they push this, but S Jose is almost half of SClara County and if they approve this, the rest of the county can't say no. Discussion ensued: Jim S: New Amer Fdn ? Blair Boubier in SJ and Steve in Mtn; Election Committee was asked to look at it, but disinterested; however a few council members interested; the pros are facing an anti: Terry Rightly is a career buearocrat; committee mtg is end of this month; decision is needed from Greens and Libs: letter from county council needs to be signed and sent by a rep of the council. Jim S volunteered to sign and send. We need to educate the public, per Jim S. Spencer would like to see a script for those who want to write a personal letter. Vote resulted in consensus on having Jim S write the letter for the county council. Andrea asked for a vote by the council. Follow up email by Jim S included here: At last Wednesday's meeting I asked the GPSCC to sign a letter to the San Jose Elections Commission re-affirming our support of IRV, as requested by Blair Bobier (New America). That letter is attached for Council review as requested by Andrea. The context is that the commission held an IRV study session a couple weeks ago and is close to making their recommendation to the City Council. The wording of the letter is specifically drafted to relate to the issues and questions that came up during the study session. Immigration: Fred asked if GP has a plank? This was confirmed by Tian, who carries an old copy of our GP planks. Downtown Hospital: per Jim S, issues are down to zoning ?overlay? which is located somewhere along Santa Clara Street. HP color Printer: Cameron says it's 10 years old; replacing toner will cost just about what a new modern printer will cost. Tom says even if not worth fixing, he can get discounts on toner, etc. Brian says that toner from HP may cost $200, at Office Depot $100, he can get it on Ebay for $25. Andrea asked about voter registration deadline dates to tell voters at Berryessa; it was suggested that although it is probably 2 weeks before Primary, we should (to be sure) check w/ ROVoters before telling prospective GP joiners. Cash from passing the hat: $57.00. Next meeting will be June 2nd, 7:30 PM Agenda will be by Jim D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andid at cagreens.org Tue May 18 15:15:47 2010 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:15:47 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [HCAC-Act] Single Payer DEBATE Thurs/20th/6PM!!! References: <005c01caf5f9$04ddb160$c600a8c0@user943cqp2f0q> Message-ID: <11AEDE23-B092-4EF6-8501-9FF7408D148C@cagreens.org> If you are for single payer, they need you at Stanford this Thursday for the debate! See info below! Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: "Mary E Ayers" > Date: May 17, 2010 12:41:53 PM PDT > To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@homiemail-mx12.g.dreamhost.com> > Subject: Fw: [HCAC-Act] Single Payer supporters wanted to give support for PNHP doctors in a debate with Free Market MD's! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lynn Huidekoper > To: HCAC Activists ; One Care Now > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:53 PM > Subject: [HCAC-Act] Single Payer supporters wanted to give support for PNHP doctors in a debate with Free Market MD's! > > Anyone who knows the Sally Pipes and John Graham dog and pony show knows that they continue to claim that all of Canada comes to the States for health care. They are your Free market, Ayn Rand folks from the Pacific Research Institute, formerly of the Fraser Institute in Canada. I heard Sally on KCBS commenting on the Federal bill not too long ago. I was not a happy camper that they gave her air time. > > Check out her website where it says she was a guest on Glenn Beck. That says it all! > http://www.pacificresearch.org/keypeople/sally-c-pipes > > The 2 PNHP doctors, who are on the correct side of the debate, need your support at this event at Stanford next Thursday. > > Thursday, May 20, 2010 > 6:00pm > > Stanford University School of Medicine > James H Clark Center Auditorium > 318 Campus Dr > Stanford, CA 94304 > > > Moderator: > Jeffrey H. Anderson, Ph.D. > Director of the Benjamin Rush Society > > Debaters arguing for free-market solutions: > > Reed Wilson, M.D., FACC, FACP > Private practice physician, > Internal medicine and cardiology > > Marcy Zwelling, M.D. > Founder of Choice Care medical practice > Private practice physician, > Internal, emergency, and critical care > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Debaters arguing for government-based solutions: > > Aaron Roland, MD > Family Practice > Burlingame, CA > > Henry L. Abrons, MD, MPH > Physicians for a National Health Program > > _______________________________________________ > HCAC-Act mailing list > HCAC-Act at svpal.org > http://mailman.svpal.org/mailman/listinfo/hcac-act -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue May 18 15:22:29 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:22:29 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] no on 14 GP message Message-ID: <4BF31325.5070403@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Greens, *Please post the message below right away* to all of the relevant listserves and e-mail lists in your county! Given that absentee voting has already started, it's critical for Greens to now be sending in LOTS of letters to the newspapers opposing Prop. 14, ASAP! (And on a positive note regarding the campaign against Prop. 14, over $150,000 has now been donated to several different campaign committees that are working to defeat Prop. 14, several major newspapers are now officially opposed to Prop. 14, and Greens are currently distributing tens of thousands of brochures, flyers, and other handouts opposing Prop. 14!). However, we still need to have a strong letters-to-the-editor campaign, so after you've posted the message below, please notify me, at: earthworks_works at yahoo.com (or you can just "blind cc" me when you post your message). In conclusion, I strongly urge you to post the message below without delay -- it's vital for us to now shift our campaign into high gear right away -- so we can *truly help defeat Prop. 14!* Thank you!, Kendra Gonzales Campaigns and Candidates Working Group co-coordinator Green Party of California [[ Subject line: Urgent! Please take 5 minutes to help the Green Party defeat Prop. 14! ]] Dear Greens, Absentee voting has now started for the June election, so *it's time for us to be flooding the newspapers with letters opposing Prop. 14!* (Note: If you would like some more info about why the Green Party is opposing Prop. 14, please see the state party website, at: http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/ and/or www.StopTopTwo.org ). Fortunately, GreenChange.org has created a wonderful webpage, at: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1488/t/338/letter/?letter_KEY=632 ) -- *this webpage makes it extremely easy for you to compose a letter to the editor* opposing Prop. 14! You first enter your zip code, and you then choose a nearby newspaper where you'd like to send your letter to. Then you "point and click" on sentences or paragraphs to compose your letter, and you then fill in your name and address (for the newspaper to receive that info), and then you send your letter off. You can actually compose a letter in just 5 minutes using this webpage! So, *PLEASE take 5 minutes within the next couple of days to send in a letter!* (And of course, if you have additional time during the coming week, please send in 2, 4, or more letters -- in fact, once you get used to it, I think that it's really quite fun to use!). So SERIOUSLY EVERYONE, we genuinely need for ALL GREENS to help us send in LOTS of letters! (Again, the webpage is at: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1488/t/338/letter/?letter_KEY=632 -- *if possible, please check it out now!*). The future of the Green Party is literally at stake! Thank you very much!, Kendra Gonzales Campaigns and Candidates Working Group co-coordinator Green Party of California _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue May 18 18:16:20 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:16:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Child care for "Food for Thought"? In-Reply-To: <4BF31325.5070403@sbcglobal.net> References: <4BF31325.5070403@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4BF33BE4.2000107@prodsyse.com> Are there any provisions for child care for this "Food for Thought" event? Two of my closest friends are young parents with small children. It's probably too late to organize child care now, but for future events like this, we might attract more young parents if we provide child care -- and make that part of our announcements. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue May 18 19:26:38 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:26:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Urgent! Please take 5 minutes to help the Green Party defeat Prop. 14! Message-ID: <4BF34C5E.9020206@earthlink.net> Dear Greens, Absentee voting has now started for the June election, so it's time for us to be flooding the newspapers with letters opposing Prop. 14! (Note: If you would like some more info about why the Green Party is opposing Prop. 14, please see the state party website, at: http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/ and/or www.StopTopTwo.org ). Fortunately, GreenChange.org has created a wonderful webpage, at: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1488/t/338/letter/?letter_KEY=632 ) -- this webpage makes it extremely easy for you to compose a letter to the editor opposing Prop. 14! You first enter your zip code, and you then choose a nearby newspaper where you'd like to send your letter to. Then you "point and click" on sentences or paragraphs to compose your letter, and you then fill in your name and address (for the newspaper to receive that info), and then you send your letter off. You can actually compose a letter in just 5 minutes using this webpage! So, PLEASE take 5 minutes within the next couple of days to send in a letter! (And of course, if you have additional time during the coming week, please send in 2, 4, or more letters -- in fact, once you get used to it, I think that it's really quite fun to use!). So SERIOUSLY EVERYONE, we genuinely need for ALL GREENS to help us send in LOTS of letters! (Again, the webpage is at: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1488/t/338/letter/?letter_KEY=632 -- if possible, please check it out now!). The future of the Green Party is literally at stake! Thank you very much!, Kendra Gonzales Campaigns and Candidates Working Group co-coordinator Green Party of California From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed May 19 00:31:02 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 00:31:02 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Interesting Poll? Message-ID: <4BF393B6.9080502@earthlink.net> Of course polls can be misleading, but here it is ... "Capitalism: Big Surprises in Recent Polls" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/18-3 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed May 19 09:53:23 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:53:23 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: Lock up your wireless networks] Message-ID: <4BF41783.10507@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Lock up your wireless networks Google is coming: http://www.pcworld.com/article/196630/google_has_been_snooping_on_your_wireless_network.html From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed May 19 10:18:23 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:18:23 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] campaign to block privatisation of waste water treatment in Novato Message-ID: <4BF41D5F.3060505@sbcglobal.net> I have received a letter from Joe Feller who is the chair of the Solano county Green Party and chair of CAL HCN - California Healthy Communities Network. He is seeking our endorsement of a referendum in Novato that wants to prevent the privatisation of a new $90 million wastewated treatment plant. The referendum is to rescind an operations and maintenance agreement with a $50 billion French-based water conglomerate operating under the name Veolia Water West. Many more details are available at http://www.novatoflow.org/ http://www.novatoflow.org/evidence.html http://www.novatoflow.org/story.html He is asking for our endorsement and also phone banking and neighborhood walking. And donations, too, to the Committee for No on F (F is the referendum's ballot designation.) Jim Doyle From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed May 19 10:43:09 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 10:43:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: NO on PROP 14 - please forward widely] Message-ID: <4BF4232D.8040704@earthlink.net> A message from our gubernatorial candidate. Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: NO on PROP 14 - please forward widely Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:17:01 -0700 From: Laura Wells To: Laura Wells Prop 14 is one of those propositions that may sound good, but is terrible! http://www.stoptoptwo.org/ gives you a lot more information, but in summary.... Prop 14 pretends to be "open primary," but more accurately should be called "top two." That's all that would be left in November, when Prop 14 would exclude all the independent, alternative political parties like the Green Party, Peace and Freedom, and Libertarian. Prop 14 would include only Democrats and Republicans that are incumbents or highly funded. Even the Democratic and Republican Parties don't like it because it would reduce voter choice within the parties. Mega-corporations, like insurance companies, with their huge campaign contributions - bribes actually - are the chief proponents. Please vote NO on Prop 14, and spread the word as widely as possible to your California contacts, NORTHERN and SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. NOTE: Prop 16 is also a liar proposition, pretending to be green, but at least PG&E has to admit it's paying for the ads, so we get a clue! Summary suggestions: new Prop 13 is a mixed bag, NO on Prop 14, YES on Prop 15, NO on Prop 16, and NO on Prop 17. Thanks for voting. Laura Wells Candidate for the Green Party nomination for Governor 510.225.4005 - www.LauraWells.org From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed May 19 11:43:41 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:43:41 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] campaign to block privatisation of waste water treatment in Novato References: <4BF41D5F.3060505@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4BF4315D.1070609@earthlink.net> First, I have a question. Why is the Green Party of Solano County approaching us on this issue? According to the map I have looked at, it appears that Novato is in Marin County. I see that Novato borders on Solano County, and the Petaluma River is all or part of the boundary. So if the wastewater plant were on the river, there might be good reason for Solano County to be concerned. But where does the Green Party of Marin County stand on this? I went to http://cagreens.org/marin. It redirects me to http://network.greenchange.org/groups/maringreens which says nothing about the Novato issue. Neither does http://cagreens.org/marin/issues. (Which does not redirect, which leads to a whole new question.) Second, why are they coming this late? The issue is on the June 8 ballot, only 20 days away! Setting all of the above aside. I am generally concerned about the privatization of water anywhere. I expect I would support the Solano County and/or Marin County in efforts to stop the privatization. I did look at the novatflow.org website, and it says that both Paris, France and Petaluma have kicked out Veolia. So what is Novato thinking? All in all, I am confused at the moment, but would like to know more. Maybe we could ask the regional rep for the North Bay? (email address at http://cagreens.org/cc/). Gerry Jim Doyle wrote: > I have received a letter from Joe Feller who is the chair of the > Solano county Green Party and chair of CAL HCN - > California Healthy Communities Network. > > He is seeking our endorsement of a referendum in Novato that > wants to prevent the privatisation of a new $90 million > wastewated treatment plant. > > The referendum is to rescind an operations and maintenance agreement > with a $50 billion French-based water conglomerate operating under > the name Veolia Water West. > > Many more details are available at http://www.novatoflow.org/ > http://www.novatoflow.org/evidence.html > http://www.novatoflow.org/story.html > > He is asking for our endorsement and also > phone banking and neighborhood walking. > And donations, too, to the Committee for No on F > (F is the referendum's ballot designation.) > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed May 19 11:46:35 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:46:35 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: NO on PROP 14 - please forward widely] References: <4BF4232D.8040704@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4BF4320B.1060505@earthlink.net> Oops, Brian has pointed out an error. I should have said, one of our gubernatorial candidates. Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > A message from our gubernatorial candidate. > > Gerry > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: NO on PROP 14 - please forward widely > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 08:17:01 -0700 > From: Laura Wells > To: Laura Wells > > > > > Prop 14 is one of those propositions that may sound good, but is terrible! > > > http://www.stoptoptwo.org/ gives you a lot more information, but > in summary.... > > > Prop 14 pretends to be "open primary," but more accurately should be > called "top two." That's all that would be left in November, when Prop > 14 would exclude all the independent, alternative political parties like > the Green Party, Peace and Freedom, and Libertarian. Prop 14 would > include only Democrats and Republicans that are incumbents or highly > funded. Even the Democratic and Republican Parties don't like it because > it would reduce voter choice within the parties. Mega-corporations, like > insurance companies, with their huge campaign contributions - bribes > actually - are the chief proponents. > > > > Please vote NO on Prop 14, and spread the word as widely as possible to > your California contacts, NORTHERN and SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. > > > > NOTE: Prop 16 is also a liar proposition, pretending to be green, but > at least PG&E has to admit it's paying for the ads, so we get a clue! > > Summary suggestions: new Prop 13 is a mixed bag, NO on Prop 14, YES on > Prop 15, NO on Prop 16, and NO on Prop 17. > > > > Thanks for voting. > > > > > Laura Wells > > Candidate for the Green Party nomination for Governor > > 510.225.4005 - www.LauraWells.org > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed May 19 12:39:24 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] campaign to block privatisation of waste water treatment in Novato In-Reply-To: <4BF4315D.1070609@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <811215.34512.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Gerry, for looking into this issue. I have another question: why should the Marin (or Solano) board of supes give a good gosh-darn what the Green Party of Santa Clara County thinks? In other words, what earthly use is our endorsement? I could see a point in getting into the Palo Alto thing. But Marin? Maybe they just don't have any north bay Greens who want to do phone banking or leafletting. --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Gerry Gras wrote: From: Gerry Gras Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] campaign to block privatisation of waste water treatment in Novato To: "sosfbay discussion group" Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 11:43 AM First, I have a question.? Why is the Green Party of Solano County approaching us on this issue?? According to the map I have looked at, it appears that Novato is in Marin County. I see that Novato borders on Solano County, and the Petaluma River is all or part of the boundary.? So if the wastewater plant were on the river, there might be good reason for Solano County to be concerned. But where does the Green Party of Marin County stand on this?? I went to http://cagreens.org/marin.? It redirects me to http://network.greenchange.org/groups/maringreens which says nothing about the Novato issue.? Neither does http://cagreens.org/marin/issues.? (Which does not redirect, which leads to a whole new question.) Second, why are they coming this late?? The issue is on the June 8 ballot, only 20 days away! Setting all of the above aside.? I am generally concerned about the privatization of water anywhere. I expect I would support the Solano County and/or Marin County in efforts to stop the privatization. I did look at the novatflow.org website, and it says that both Paris, France and Petaluma have kicked out Veolia.? So what is Novato thinking? All in all, I am confused at the moment, but would like to know more.? Maybe we could ask the regional rep for the North Bay?? (email address at http://cagreens.org/cc/). Gerry Jim Doyle wrote: > I have received a letter from Joe Feller who is the chair of the > Solano county Green Party and chair of CAL HCN - > California Healthy Communities Network. > > He is seeking our endorsement of a referendum in Novato that > wants to prevent the privatisation of? a new $90 million > wastewated treatment plant. > > The referendum is to rescind an operations and maintenance agreement > with a $50 billion French-based water conglomerate operating under > the name Veolia Water West. > > Many more details are available at? ? ? ? ? http://www.novatoflow.org/ >? ? ???http://www.novatoflow.org/evidence.html >? ? ???http://www.novatoflow.org/story.html > > He is asking for our endorsement and also > phone banking and neighborhood walking. > And donations, too, to the Committee for No on F > (F is the referendum's ballot designation.) > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please reply re Prop 14 Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Size: 25224 URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu May 20 00:36:04 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 00:36:04 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Petition for 350 Message-ID: <4BF4E664.2060002@earthlink.net> FYI, here is a petition for 350, i.e. a petition requesting the EPA to set 350 ppm CO2 limit: http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2167/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2773 Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Thu May 20 08:27:19 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 08:27:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] campaign to block privatisation of waste water treatment in Novato In-Reply-To: <811215.34512.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <811215.34512.qm@web81208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BF554D7.2010705@charter.net> On 5/19/2010 12:39 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Thanks Gerry, for looking into this issue. I have another question: > why should the Marin (or Solano) board of supes give a good gosh-darn > what the Green Party of Santa Clara County thinks? In other words, > what earthly use is our endorsement? I could see a point in getting > into the Palo Alto thing. But Marin? Maybe they just don't have any > north bay Greens who want to do phone banking or leafletting. > > --- On *Wed, 5/19/10, Gerry Gras //* wrote: > There is a lot of mis-conception about this issue. To begin with, Joe Feller has been very active in a number of local governance questions... especially in fighting big box retailers like Walmart. His involvement in the Marin County Waste Treatment question is just an extension. Both dovetail with his Green Party work, but most of this is not done from the viewpoint of being an official GP representative... where he also the CC Regional Rep. And, there are a number of organized Greens in Marin... e.g. more than half of the Fairfax City Council as well as Marnie Glickman - Gary Ruskin from Green Change. I am sure that Marnie is very much on board with this, though spending most of her time on the GPUS Platform revision coming up at the Annual National Meeting. A significant portion of Marin County, including Novato, is represented by Jared Huffman in the Assembly. Huffman was one of the architects of the Water legislation that passed last fall. He worked for years as a lawyer for the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) and served on the board of the Marin County Water District. All of which gave him the typical insider, political game player mentality that says he knows best and does not have to listen to anyone. Once in a while, he is right. Since the Novato Democratic Club sponsored the kick-off event for the campaign against privatization, I would assume the he is against it, but can not quickly find a reference that says so. This just underscores the manner in which things work in Marin. The Marin Peace and Justice Coalition was also a sponsor of the kickoff. As to the question of what good an endorsement from non-Marin Greens might have, it would be better to put the question to Joe directly rather than to make conjectures about what might be needed. I will also note that Marnie Glickman attributed Pam's win for Fairfax City Council partially on the ability of Greens in Marin to do phone banking. It also helped find some new resources for the party. That being the case, I would suggest that we do volunteer to participate, especially to do phone banking... and to ask Feller for a good script. 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"Under the agreement, Toyota, the world's largest automaker, will invest $50 million in Tesla, which will buy the NUMMI plant for an undisclosed sum." Here come the electric cars w/o foot-dragging Detroit?this will be the biggest mistake SUVville ever made. California will be lost to them as soon as Tesla creates its midsize and small compact cars for us all. A longtime ZEV and EAA believer, Andrea -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's a blatant attempt by the state's largest utility to squash competition from municipally-owned utilities by setting up a very high barrier to switch out of PG&E's services -- a two-thirds popular vote. I'm concerned about this because local utility services are more likely to invest in greener energy. Our vision is for California to be powered 100 percent by clean, renewable energy. PG&E and our local, municipally-owned utilities need to be a part of making this vision a reality. Instead of trying to squash competition through this ill-conceived ballot measure, PG&E should focus on making it easier for you and me to put solar panels on our roofs or on building more wind farms. With less than 20 percent of our electricity coming from renewable resources, we have a long way to go to achieve our vision. On June 8, let's tell PG&E to get back to work on the important stuff: building a clean energy future for California. Please vote NO on Prop 16. Click here for more information on our No on Prop 16 position. http://www.environmentcalifornia.org/newsroom/energy/energy-program-news/environment-california-opposes-pges-proposition-16 Remember to vote on June 8. Thanks for all you do, Dan Jacobson Environment California Legislative Director http://www.EnvironmentCalifornia.org 1. http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/Detail.aspx?id=1318623&session=2009&view=received Donate today. A cleaner, greener future is within our reach. Your donation today can help us bring the vision we share a little closer to reality. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri May 21 21:13:56 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 21:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Food 4 Thought Message-ID: <929965.30452.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi everybody. I guess the best-kept secret in town is something we've been knocking ourselves out to tell everybody about. ? WE ARE HAVING A FOOD 4 THOUGHT SATURDAY NIGHT, MAY 22, AT 5:00 ? ?It's at 80 south 5th street, which is right behind San Jose City Hall? There is a parking lot there, plus street parking, plus a parking building. We will be serving appetizers, 4 kinds of soup, chili, two kinds of salad, and three cakes.We are having speakers on Abusive Banks and how to say "no" to them, Prop. 14, Prop.15, and the current state of health care.We also have live music and informal discussion. PLEASE COME. We may also have the BRAND NEW, hot off the press Green Focus. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eameece at sfo.com Sat May 22 13:57:55 2010 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 13:57:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] prop 16 Message-ID: I wish greens were more active on this issue. It is really the most important prop on the ballot, and the worst. PG&E is using our money to buy a law that makes public power impossible. The ads are deceptive; most public power is put to a vote of the people. Why should this one issue require a 2/3 vote? This is a monopoly power grab. We need public power; we need alternative energy. Vote NO and tell others. Eric the Green -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eameece at sfo.com Sat May 22 13:58:26 2010 From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 13:58:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Food 4 Thought In-Reply-To: <929965.30452.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <929965.30452.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: why no speaker on prop 16? But thanks I'll consider whether to ride over.... Eric M ----- Original Message ----- From: Caroline Yacoub To: sosfbay-discuss Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Food 4 Thought Hi everybody. I guess the best-kept secret in town is something we've been knocking ourselves out to tell everybody about. WE ARE HAVING A FOOD 4 THOUGHT SATURDAY NIGHT, MAY 22, AT 5:00 It's at 80 south 5th street, which is right behind San Jose City Hall There is a parking lot there, plus street parking, plus a parking building. We will be serving appetizers, 4 kinds of soup, chili, two kinds of salad, and three cakes.We are having speakers on Abusive Banks and how to say "no" to them, Prop. 14, Prop.15, and the current state of health care.We also have live music and informal discussion. PLEASE COME. We may also have the BRAND NEW, hot off the press Green Focus. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2889 - Release Date: 05/21/10 23:26:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_alliance47 at yahoo.com Sat May 22 19:48:08 2010 From: the_alliance47 at yahoo.com (Edward) Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 19:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green the 15th District? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <381577.13996.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Do we have someone running for Congress in the 15th District? I promised Mike Honda I would not vote for him if he voted for Romney-care and he did. The Republican alternatives, like Scott Kirkland, are horrible. Do we have a Green running for this seat? I'm not old enough, or else I'd stand on the ballot just for progressives who do not want to vote for Honda. -edward -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Sun May 23 12:46:18 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 12:46:18 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Please Help with Letters against Prop 14 Message-ID: <4BF9860A.4000604@greens.org> Prop 14 Open/Top-Two Primary It is absolutely critical that we get letters to the editor published NOW. The yes-on-14 crowd has lots of money and connections; their ads are all over TV and radio. Letters are an important counter-effort against this. Can I interest two volunteers in a mini letter campaign to the Mercury News? Below are two letters. The plan is for one person to send the first letter. Then, within 24 hours of it being published (if), the second person sends the other letter. It?s also important that no one besides the two volunteers sends these letters. However, please send others letters to your community papers and to the Metro. There?s a couple sample letters at http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/ and other resources at http://www.stoptoptwo.org/. Volunteers ? Please respond to this list ASAP. Thanks Jim S ============================================ From what I've learned about Prop 14, it's based on a weak theory, which was disproved by a couple states that tried it. Let's stop nibbling around the edges and make the reforms our ailing elections system needs. Britain's response to its troubled 3-way Prime Minister race is to study the use of a proportional representation system (PR). Under this system, parliamentary seats are allocated in proportion to each party's percentage of the total vote. We could solve the Prop 14 problem with a similar electoral reform solution. We don't have to convert to a parliamentary system, but we can use ranked choice voting, upon which PR is based. This would allow the creation of three parties: Left - Center - Right. Then voters could more precisely choose a candidate to support. And candidates wouldn?t have to pander to constituents they with whom they don?t agree. [146 words] I agree with [name] letter on [date] about Prop 14 not being a solution, and the need for election reforms. I?ve heard complaints about our election system for years. Isn?t it time for a change? I recently learned that San Jose is considering an Instant Runoff Voting system, which uses a ballot where voters get to rank all candidates instead of just voting for one. This seems like a fair system and it solves a lot of problems that people complain about. I?d rather try that than Prop 14?s idea about doing away with parties in the primary. [98 words] From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun May 23 16:31:12 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 16:31:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] No on 14 Message-ID: <4BF9BAC0.1010509@sbcglobal.net> Has anyone had their letter published yet? GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NOTE: The Prop 14 resource page mentioned below has been updated with new material! Dear Greens, Below is the message which was sent out on March 21 regarding the urgent need to organize to defeat Prop. 14 (the so-called ?Top-Two Primary? measure). Right now, _we especially need for local Greens to send in letters-to-the-editor to their local newspapers_, including both large and small newspapers -- hopefully starting no later than a week from now (and then continuing up until just before election day). A sample op-ed has been posted to our special Prop. 14 resource page, at: http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/. Please feel free to forward the info below to Green Party listserves in your county, and to post it to Green e-mail lists. And if you can also telephone this coming week some of the Greens in your county who might be able to help write letters, then that will of course greatly increase the likelihood of getting letters to be sent in! Finally, within the next 4 or 5 days, please send an e-mail message to: earthworks_works at yahoo.com to let us know that your county will be helping out with sending in some letters to the editor. We really need for there to be widespread participation in order for this letters-to-the-editor campaign to work! That is, we urgently need to reach out to millions of voters across the state very soon, in order to defeat Prop. 14 -- so please do everything you can to get lots of Greens in your county to send in letters! Thank You, Kendra Gonzales Co-Coordinator, Campaigns & Candidates Working Group --------------------------------------------------- Email sent previously on March 21: There will be a ballot measure in the June 8th Primary Election that would effectively abolish minor parties from the General Elections held in November. We are asking you to join the effort to defeat this measure -- Proposition 14, the ?Top-Two Primary.? We have a Prop 14 resources web page at http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/. At the March 2010 General Assembly of Delegates, the Green Party of California easily reached consensus on opposing Proposition 14. If adopted, all candidates for partisan office would be required to run in a single, combined Primary Election rather than each party having it?s own Primary. Voters may vote for any party?s candidate, and only the two highest voted candidates would proceed to the General Election. No longer would each party be represented in the General. In fact, the two candidates in the General could be from the same party. Obviously, this measure would make it extremely difficulty for minor parties to get their candidates ? especially for statewide offices ? seen by the voters in the General Election. There was a previous ballot measure proposing this ?top-two? concept which the GPCA also opposed. The present measure made it on to the ballot by being a part of the ?deal? to get State Senator Abel Maldonado to vote in support of the February 2009 budget package. Defeating Proposition 14 is a high priority for the GPCA. Because we, and other small political parties, constitute just a minority of the total voters, we must reach out beyond our GPCA membership to defeat this measure. Green Values speak of Grassroots Democracy and Decentralization, and in this spirit we ask you to join the effort to defeat this measure by doing the following: ? Talk, blog and email your friends, family, co-workers, and groups in which you participate and ask them to vote No on Prop 14. Explain to them why it?s important. Ask them to discuss it with their other friends, family, etc. ? Ask local organizations in which you participate to hold discussions on this issue and, if possible, pass their own resolutions opposing Prop 14. It is especially important to speak before senior citizen?s groups because AARP is being listed as a supporting organization on campaign literature that already has been mailed twice. ? Write letters to the editor -- not just to the big newspapers but also to weekly, bi-weekly and monthly papers. We ask Local County Green Parties to focus on this issue immediately because absentee (mail-in) ballots will begin to be issued on or about May 8, 2010. The GP members in your area need to be contacted and encouraged to engage individually and help make contacts with other organizations. This is an opportunity to connect with other political parties locally to issue joint statements and submit joint op-ed pieces to the local press. There are a number of measures on the ballot, and more developing campaigns for November or circulating petitions for ballot measures which Greens already support or likely to. It is important to bring the Prop 14 issue to these groups and their activists ? even if those campaigns (for various reasons) will not formally oppose Prop 14. It is important to bring ?VOTE NO on Prop 14? signs to public rallies supporting Prop 15 (public financing for Secretary of State candidates), or opposing Prop 16 (initiative to hamper local energy commissions), or opposing Prop 17 (initiative that would increase auto insurance rates). Here are some ?talking points?: ? Proposition 14 will not result in a less partisan and more moderate legislature, as its proponents claim. This kind of system has been tried before in congressional elections in Louisiana and is currently being used in Washington State. In both cases, the same patterns of Democrats and Republicans were elected. The Washington legislature is still as partisan as it was before its style of ?top-two? was approved. ? Proposition 14 will make the General Elections less democratic because voters will have fewer choices on Election Day. Not only will smaller Parties? candidates be eliminated ? lessening the choices for independent (decline to state) voters ? it is possible that the top two candidates will be from the same political party in many legislative races. ? Proposition 14 will likely increase the money that is spent on Primary Election campaigns and increase fund raising from large private donors and corporations. This will continue the ongoing escalation of candidate spending. Prop 14 would end Prop 15?s public financing experiment because a ?top two? system would prevent other candidates from receiving the large portion of the public financing provided after the Primaries. The Campaign and Candidates Working Group and Electoral Reform Working Group has prepared material for GP tabling and networking. If you have questions about the above information, contact Warner Bloomberg at (408) 295-9353 or at wsb3attyca at aol.com _______________________________________________ From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon May 24 00:14:32 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 00:14:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GP Candidate might be president ... Message-ID: <4BFA2758.4060004@earthlink.net> in Columbia? "Colombia Set to Elect the World's First Green Leader" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/05/23-1 Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Mon May 24 07:43:25 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 07:43:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] No on 14 In-Reply-To: <4BF9BAC0.1010509@sbcglobal.net> References: <4BF9BAC0.1010509@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4BFA908D.4090605@charter.net> In my last green talk column - mh TIMES, I mentioned no on 14 along with yes on 15 and no on 16. I also endorsed Dr. Peter Arellano for Supervisor., On 5/23/2010 4:31 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Has anyone had their letter published yet? > > GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE > > This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more > information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please > do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions > stated in the email. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > NOTE: The Prop 14 resource page mentioned below has been updated with new > material! > > > > Dear Greens, > > Below is the message which was sent out on March 21 regarding the urgent > need to organize to defeat Prop. 14 (the so-called ?Top-Two Primary? > measure). Right now, _we especially need for local Greens to send in > letters-to-the-editor to their local newspapers_, including both large > and small newspapers -- hopefully starting no later than a week from now > (and then continuing up until just before election day). > > A sample op-ed has been posted to our special Prop. 14 resource page, > at: http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/. Please feel free to forward the > info below to Green Party listserves in your county, and to post it to > Green e-mail lists. And if you can also telephone this coming week some > of the Greens in your county who might be able to help write letters, > then that will of course greatly increase the likelihood of getting > letters to be sent in! > > Finally, within the next 4 or 5 days, please send an e-mail message to: > earthworks_works at yahoo.com > to let us know that your county will be helping out with sending in some > letters to the editor. We really need for there to be widespread > participation in order for this letters-to-the-editor campaign to work! > That is, we urgently need to reach out to millions of voters across the > state very soon, in order to defeat Prop. 14 -- so please do everything > you can to get lots of Greens in your county to send in letters! > > Thank You, > Kendra Gonzales > Co-Coordinator, Campaigns & Candidates Working Group > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Email sent previously on March 21: > > There will be a ballot measure in the June 8th Primary Election that > would effectively abolish minor parties from the General Elections held > in November. We are asking you to join the effort to defeat this measure > -- Proposition 14, the ?Top-Two Primary.? > > We have a Prop 14 resources web page at http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/. > > At the March 2010 General Assembly of Delegates, the Green Party of > California easily reached consensus on opposing Proposition 14. If > adopted, all candidates for partisan office would be required to run in > a single, combined Primary Election rather than each party having it?s > own Primary. Voters may vote for any party?s candidate, and only the two > highest voted candidates would proceed to the General Election. No > longer would each party be represented in the General. In fact, the two > candidates in the General could be from the same party. > > Obviously, this measure would make it extremely difficulty for minor > parties to get their candidates ? especially for statewide offices ? > seen by the voters in the General Election. There was a previous ballot > measure proposing this ?top-two? concept which the GPCA also opposed. > The present measure made it on to the ballot by being a part of the > ?deal? to get State Senator Abel Maldonado to vote in support of the > February 2009 budget package. > > Defeating Proposition 14 is a high priority for the GPCA. Because we, > and other small political parties, constitute just a minority of the > total voters, we must reach out beyond our GPCA membership to defeat > this measure. > > Green Values speak of Grassroots Democracy and Decentralization, and in > this spirit we ask you to join the effort to defeat this measure by > doing the following: > > ? Talk, blog and email your friends, family, co-workers, and groups in > which you participate and ask them to vote No on Prop 14. Explain to > them why it?s important. Ask them to discuss it with their other > friends, family, etc. > > ? Ask local organizations in which you participate to hold discussions > on this issue and, if possible, pass their own resolutions opposing Prop > 14. It is especially important to speak before senior citizen?s groups > because AARP is being listed as a supporting organization on campaign > literature that already has been mailed twice. > > ? Write letters to the editor -- not just to the big newspapers but also > to weekly, bi-weekly and monthly papers. > > We ask Local County Green Parties to focus on this issue immediately > because absentee (mail-in) ballots will begin to be issued on or about > May 8, 2010. The GP members in your area need to be contacted and > encouraged to engage individually and help make contacts with other > organizations. This is an opportunity to connect with other political > parties locally to issue joint statements and submit joint op-ed pieces > to the local press. > > There are a number of measures on the ballot, and more developing > campaigns for November or circulating petitions for ballot measures > which Greens already support or likely to. It is important to bring the > Prop 14 issue to these groups and their activists ? even if those > campaigns (for various reasons) will not formally oppose Prop 14. It is > important to bring ?VOTE NO on Prop 14? signs to public rallies > supporting Prop 15 (public financing for Secretary of State candidates), > or opposing Prop 16 (initiative to hamper local energy commissions), or > opposing Prop 17 (initiative that would increase auto insurance rates). > > Here are some ?talking points?: > > ? Proposition 14 will not result in a less partisan and more moderate > legislature, as its proponents claim. This kind of system has been tried > before in congressional elections in Louisiana and is currently being > used in Washington State. In both cases, the same patterns of Democrats > and Republicans were elected. The Washington legislature is still as > partisan as it was before its style of ?top-two? was approved. > > ? Proposition 14 will make the General Elections less democratic because > voters will have fewer choices on Election Day. Not only will smaller > Parties? candidates be eliminated ? lessening the choices for > independent (decline to state) voters ? it is possible that the top two > candidates will be from the same political party in many legislative > races. > > ? Proposition 14 will likely increase the money that is spent on Primary > Election campaigns and increase fund raising from large private donors > and corporations. This will continue the ongoing escalation of candidate > spending. Prop 14 would end Prop 15?s public financing experiment > because a ?top two? system would prevent other candidates from receiving > the large portion of the public financing provided after the Primaries. > > The Campaign and Candidates Working Group and Electoral Reform Working > Group has prepared material for GP tabling and networking. > If you have questions about the above information, contact Warner > Bloomberg at (408) 295-9353 or at wsb3attyca at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/ From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Mon May 24 08:25:21 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GP Candidate might be president ... Message-ID: <20100524152521.6BF0A6A957@truffula.sj.ca.us> As I recall, the head of state of Madagascar was a Green, for a few years in the '80s. So if the Green gets elected in Colombia, he'll be the second, not the first. -Cameron From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon May 24 08:58:56 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 08:58:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: Prop 15 on KQED and at the Commonwealth Club today] Message-ID: <4BFAA240.6050002@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Prop 15 on KQED and at the Commonwealth Club today Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:31:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Yes on 15 Reply-To: newsletter at yesonprop15.org To: gerrygras at earthlink.net [Fair Elections coalition logos] Two Bay Area Prop 15 events today (May 24) -- Join us! 1) Forum with Michael Krasny. KQED Radio, 88.5FM, 9:30am: "Prop 15: Campaign Finance Reform," a debate between our own Campaign Chair, Trent Lange, and Richard Wiebe, a spokesperson for the opposition. You can email questions now, and call in or send comments while listening live; click on the link above. If you miss the show live you should be able to hear the archived version there later. 2) Special Commonwealth Club Forum on Proposition 15 Impacts of Campaign Finance Reform on our Environment & Natural Resources Whether you're red or blue, how does being green factor into your vote? Trent Lange, Chair, Yes on Proposition 15, Californians for Fair Elections Bill Magavern, Director, Sierra Club - California Dr. Kerry Curtis, Moderator Get better informed before heading to the ballot box. How does the way we finance election campaigns affect our policies on the environment and climate change? Do public financing of elections and campaign spending limits create a more competitive political playing field? Hear an expert panel of advocates and opponents discuss the pros and cons of the California Fair Elections Act (Proposition 15), one of the ballot measures for the June 8 election. MLF: Environment & Natural Resources Location:SF Club Office Location: Blue Room, The Commonwealth Club, 595 Market Street 2nd Floor, San Francisco, CA, 94105 Time: 5:30 p.m. networking reception, 6 p.m. program Cost: MEMBERS FREE, $20 non-members, $7 students (with valid ID) For tickets in advance: https://tickets.commonwealthclub.org/open.asp?show=1731 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help Pass Prop 15! Yes on Proposition 15, Californians for Fair Elections, A coalition of nurses and government reform advocates (FPPC ID # 1317708). 3916 S. Sepulveda Blvd, Suite 109, Culver City, CA 90230. Phone: (310) 397-0200. Fax: (888) 633-8898. Email: Info at YesOnProp15.org Share this message with your friends! [Safe Unsubscribe] This email was sent to gerrygras at earthlink.net by newsletter at yesonprop15.org . Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe ^(TM) | Privacy Policy . Email Marketing by Yes on Proposition 15, Californians for Fair Elections | 3916 S. Sepulveda Blvd, Suite 109 | Culver City | CA | 90230 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon May 24 09:11:31 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:11:31 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Greening A MAJOR street Message-ID: <4BFAA533.6020601@earthlink.net> "French Farmers Turn Champs-Elysees Into Huge Farm" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/05/24-1 Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon May 24 17:31:11 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:31:11 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items Message-ID: <4BFB1A4F.9080508@sbcglobal.net> First call for agenda items for the meeting on June 2-nd. Jim Doyle From fredd at freeshell.org Tue May 25 14:54:16 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 14:54:16 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Tad Daly's Local Events Message-ID: <4BFC4708.1090101@freeshell.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Tad Daly's Local Events Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 14:27:54 -0700 From: fred To: FYI regarding a hot topic: Tonight, a long time World Federalist friend of mine, Tad Daly, will speak about his newly published book: "Apocalypse Never: How the Abolition of Nuclear Weapons May Actually Happen," at the Palo Alto Universalist Unitarian Church beginning at 7:30. Thursday, May 27, Tad will also speak on the same subject at the Stanford Hewlet Teaching Center on the Stanford campus. Fred Duperrault P.S. See: http://nuclearrisk.org/2010_spring.php and/or http:/peaceandjustice.org/article.php?story=Apocalypse_Never -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed May 26 10:29:50 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:29:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] protesting arizona law, veggielution Message-ID: <4BFD5A8E.4090203@sbcglobal.net> For this coming Saturday, May 29-th, there is a call for action re the SB 1070 Arizona law being sponsored at least in part by Siren - Services, Immigration Reform, and Education Network. The San Jose portion for those who are not going to Arizona will be at Story Road and King Road in San Jose from 2:30 pm to 4:30 pm. At the same time you can stop at the Veggielution market. The Veggielution operation is also at Story Road and King Road. So you can make the journey a "twofer." the exact address and numerous photos can be found at http://www.thesanjoseblog.com/2010/02/veggielution-farmstand-opening.html 647 S. King Road, Saturdays from 2:30pm-3pm! Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed May 26 10:34:54 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:34:54 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] more NO on 14 effort Message-ID: <4BFD5BBE.5090305@sbcglobal.net> GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Greens - *Some of you have forwarded our Stop 14 emails to your local list, pressing for letters to the editor. Thank you!. We need to amp up these efforts _in the last 2 weeks_ before June 8th. Letters to the Editor are the quickest way to get a message to the most people. Current polls indicate that 60% of voters support Prop 14. *_We must act fast. _* It is absolutely critical that we get letters to the editor published NOW. The yes-on-14 crowd has lots of money and connections; their ads are all over TV and radio. Letters are an important counter-effort against this. Our goal is to send 1,000 letters in the next week. We suggest 4 to 10 Greens send in a letter each to the smaller papers, and 15 to 70 Greens send in a letter each to the larger papers. Are there Greens in your county that you can call*, right away*, to find out if they have submitted letters, or encourage them to do so? If you do not have time, then we are willing to make some calls. Email me their names, email addresses, and phone #s. How many newspapers are in your county? Can you commit to making sure that each newspaper (small and large) gets a NO ON 14 letter this week? What a great organizing tool to get your local involved! There is also a great ?tag-team? method. One Greens sends a letter, IF it gets published, then another Green sends an ?in support of letter A? 24 hours after its published. This is how we get 2 letters in to the same paper.**sample letters at the end of this email. Letter writing has been made very easy: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1488/t/338/letter/?letter_KEY=632 ) I personally went to this link, typed in my zip, got 4 major newspapers, did a click and copy of what I liked best from the ?sample? info, and sent to all 4. This took me 5 minutes. I also did my own search, (knowing there are more than 4 papers in Ventura?..local community papers!) using the same 2 paragraphs and sent to 7 other papers. The whole thing took me a ? hour. If I?m published in just the 4 majors, I may reach *1,500,000 readers ? for ? hour worth of time.* We NEED 100 Greens to do the same !!. **DO NOT SEND MORE THAN 2 PARAGRAPHS. THERE ARE SIZE LIMITS AND THEY WON'T PRINT YOUR LETTER IF ITS TOO LONG** We should do outreach outside of the Green Party too - can you and fellow Greens post Stop 14 messages on Facebook, Twitter, blogs, and any other networks available?. What other organizations do you work with? Please spend some time on this - _the future of our Party is literally at stake!_ Please reply email as to what efforts are being made in your County to get this letter writing or other outreach done. We need to make sure lots of Greens are sending in letters. We can help! -------------- TAG-TEAM LETTERS Sample Letter 1: From what I've learned about Prop 14, it's based on a weak theory that was disproved by a couple states that tried it. Let's stop nibbling around the edges and make the real reforms our ailing elections system needs. We could solve the Prop 14 problem with a similar electoral reform solution that Britain is considering after their troubled 3-way Prime Minister race. We don't convert to a parliamentary system, but we use ?ranked choice voting? to attain proportional representation rather than winner-take-all elections. This would allow the creation of three main parties: Left - Center - Right. Then voters could choose candidates whom they really support. And candidates wouldn?t have to pander to constituents with whom they don?t agree. [120 words] Sample letter 2: I agree with [name]'s letter on [date] about Prop 14 not being a solution and the need for election reforms. I?ve heard complaints about our election system for years. Isn?t it time for a change? I recently learned about Instant Runoff Voting. It uses a ballot where voters get to rank all candidates instead of voting for just one, which sounds like what [name]?s letter described. This seems like a fair system and it solves a lot of problems that people complain about. I?d rather try that than Prop 14?s idea about doing away with parties in the primary and limiting the general election to just two candidates. [108 words] Prop 14 Resources: http://www.stoptoptwo.org/ http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/ http://noonproposition14.com/ _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed May 26 12:32:04 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: City of Sunnyvale-Historic Murphy Avenue Grand Reopening Message-ID: <627077.98721.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 5/26/10, City of Sunnyvale-Economic Development wrote: From: City of Sunnyvale-Economic Development Subject: City of Sunnyvale-Historic Murphy Avenue Grand Reopening To: carolineyacoub at att.net Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 7:08 AM Having trouble viewing this email? 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Afghans and their neighboring countries must settle their conflict by negotiations. The U.S. can provide development aid but cannot dictate the outcome. U.S. troops must come home so that the healing can begin. Now, the Democratic leadership in Congress wants to pass a $33 billion war supplemental appropriation to pay for the escalated troop levels. To divide war opponents they are adding unrelated sugar-coating, including funds for Vietnam-era veterans' Agent Orange health care, Haiti earthquake aid, cleanup of the Gulf oil spill, and funding for teachers, to the war appropriation. *Wipe the lipstick off the pig!* Tell Congress to vote NO on Afghanistan war funding even if unrelated funds are attached. These desperately needed funds for jobs, education, and health deserve to be adopted on their own merits -- but they can and must be passed separately. The Senate is expected to vote on the war funding this week, *possibly Wednesday*. * Call your Senator IMMEDIATELY at **202-244-3121 *and give him or her three messages: (1) Vote NO on funding for the Afghanistan war, no matter what other measures are attached to it. (2) Vote YES on amendment 4204 to HR.4899 (the supplemental appropriation bill), submitted by Sens. Boxer, Durbin and Merkley, which in simplified language sets an exit timeline for withdrawing U.S. troops from Afghanistan. (3) Join the Out of Afghanistan Congressional Caucus initiated by Rep. John Conyers. Next week (June 1-4), members of the House of Representatives will be on break and most will be in their districts. *Make appointments with them during this period; drop by offices, hold vigils, or make phone calls* with three messages: (1) Vote NO on funding for the Afghanistan war, no matter what other measures are attached to it. * *(2) Cosponsor the McGovern/Feingold bill (HR.5015) which sets an exit timeline for withdrawing U.S. troops from Afghanistan. (3) Join the Out of Afghanistan Congressional Caucus initiated by Rep. John Conyers. * Call today and next week, **202-244-3121! * Please along any significant results to rustiandgael at unitedforpeace.org . 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URL: From fredd at freeshell.org Wed May 26 15:41:32 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:41:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Israel Can't Intimidate Humanitarian Ships Sailing to Gaza Message-ID: <4BFDA39C.2050303@freeshell.org> Green Friends, If there is a way for the GPUS to publicly give moral support for the safe journey of the "eight vessel Freedom Flotilla" that will help break Israel's illegal siege of Gaza, I suggest that he GP media team be given the Green light. Fred Duperrault P.S. Please note, below, that Mehmet Kaplan, a Swedish parliamentarian, is a Green. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Israel Can't Intimidate Humanitarian Ships Sailing to Gaza Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:15:54 -0700 From: John O. Sutter To: Sutter John O. This article was published on 14 May. Since then Israel has threatened most of the countries from which a flotilla of ships have departed to break the illegal Israeli siege of Gaza, which Israel has illegally turned into a concentration camp. Among the sailors are progressive Jews. John Israel's Intimidation Tactics Won't Stop Us: First Ship Sets Sail for Gaza! Free Gaza Team 14rachel-corrie-mv.jpg *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE* London ? 14 May 2010 ? At 22:45 local time tonight, the MV Rachel Corrie, a 1200-ton cargo ship, part of the eight-vessel Freedom Flotilla, set sail from Ireland on its way to the Mediterranean Sea. There, ships from Turkey and Greece will join her, then sail to Gaza. This past week reports from Israel have indicated that the Israeli authorities will not allow the Freedom Flotilla to reach Gaza with its cargo of much-needed reconstruction material, medical equipment, and school supplies. According to Israeli news sources, clear orders have been issued to prevent the ships from reaching Gaza, even if this necessitates military violence. The Free Gaza Movement, which has launched eight other sea missions to Gaza, confirms that Israel has tried these kinds of threats and intimidation tactics before in order to try to stop the missions before they start. "They have not deterred us before and will not deter us now," said one of the organizers. Ship to Gaza -- Sweden, a Freedom Flotilla coalition partner, together with parliamentarian Mehmet Kaplan (Green Party) yesterday asked for an audience with the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Sweden, Carl Bildt, to discuss what measures the Swedish government and the European Union will take to protect the Freedom Flotilla?s peaceful, humanitarian voyage. Earlier this week during a meeting with the European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza ? another coalition partner, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyib Erdogan expressed his support for "breaking the oppressive siege on the Gaza Strip...which is at the top of Turkey?s list of priorities." Coalition partners, Ship to Gaza ? Greece and the Turkish relief organization IHH, stressed that the ships, passengers, and cargo will be checked at each port of departure, making it clear that we constitute no security threat to Israel. Israel?s threats to attack unarmed civilians aboard vessels carrying reconstruction aid are outrageous and indicative of the cruel and violent nature of Israel?s policies towards Gaza. The Freedom Flotilla is acting in line with universal principals of human rights and justice in defying a blockade identified as illegal by the UN and other humanitarian organizations. Palestinians in Gaza have a right to the thousands of basic supplies that Israel bans from entering, including cement and schoolbooks, as well as a right to access the outside world. The Freedom Flotilla coalition calls on all signatories to the Fourth Geneva Conventions to pressure Israel to adhere to its obligations under international humanitarian law, to end the lethal blockade on Gaza, and to refrain from attacking this peaceful convoy. For more information: Free Gaza Movement ? Greta Berlin - +33 607374512 ECESG ? Mazen Kahel - +33 1 46 81 12 92 IHH ? Ahmet Emin Dag ? +90 530 341 1934 Ship to Gaza / Greece ? Vangelis Pissias - +30 697 200 9339 Ship to Gaza / Sweden ? Dror Feiler - +46702855777 The Freedom Flotilla Coalition is comprised of: Free Gaza Movement (FG), European Campaign to End the Siege of Gaza (ECESG), Insani Yardim Vakfi (IHH), Ship to Gaza Greece, Ship to Gaza Sweden, and the International Committee to Lift the Siege on Gaza, with hundreds of groups and organizations around the world supporting the effort. www.freegaza.org www.savegaza.eu www.ihh.org.tr www.shiptogaza.gr www.shiptogaza.se *:: */Article nr. 66011 sent on 15-may-2010 16:38 ECT/ www.uruknet.info?p=66011 *:: */The views expressed in this article are the sole responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of this website. // / ____________________________________________________________ *Penny Stock Jumping 2000%* Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! AwesomePennyStocks.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can take the lead in developing a protocol for this. (I am, among other things, a statistician. As such, I have been involved in surveys in the past and have made some limited study of the research in this area.) Spencer On 5/27/2010 10:30 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Second call for agenda items for next Wednesday's > general meeting. > > The first call went unanswered. > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu May 27 19:45:17 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:45:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Article about :"War is Making You Poor Act" Message-ID: <4BFF2E3D.9070601@earthlink.net> "Stopping Orwell's Nightmare" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/27-0 or you can go directly to the bill by searching by bill #, (H.R. 5353) at: http://thomas.loc.gov Gerry From jims at greens.org Thu May 27 20:05:47 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:05:47 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] ACTION NEEDED NOW --> more NO on 14 effort Message-ID: <4BFF330B.7090803@greens.org> This is important, folks! Prop 14 isn't just ineffective election reform, it threatens the ballot status of all minor parties. 'Letters to the editor' is one of the worthwhile actions we can do (and one we can afford). Please take a few minutes to read the announcement below about the letter writing campaign, then spend the mere 5 minutes it takes to participate in this getting-late effort to defeat Prop 14. Send a letter to the Mercury News and one to a community paper. Here's the Murky News' letter info: E-mail your thoughts to letters at mercurynews.com. Requirements: 125 words or less; no attachments; include your name, address and daytime phone. Letters will be edited for length and clarity. Street addresses and phone numbers are not published. The Mercury News reserves the right to publish and republish your submission in any form or medium. Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GPSCC-chat] more NO on 14 effort Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 10:34:54 -0700 From: Jim Doyle To: sosfbay discussion group GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting, please do not hit reply. Follow the contact directions stated in the email. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Greens - *Some of you have forwarded our Stop 14 emails to your local list, pressing for letters to the editor. Thank you!. We need to amp up these efforts _in the last 2 weeks_ before June 8th. Letters to the Editor are the quickest way to get a message to the most people. Current polls indicate that 60% of voters support Prop 14. *_We must act fast. _* It is absolutely critical that we get letters to the editor published NOW. The yes-on-14 crowd has lots of money and connections; their ads are all over TV and radio. Letters are an important counter-effort against this. Our goal is to send 1,000 letters in the next week. We suggest 4 to 10 Greens send in a letter each to the smaller papers, and 15 to 70 Greens send in a letter each to the larger papers. Are there Greens in your county that you can call*, right away*, to find out if they have submitted letters, or encourage them to do so? If you do not have time, then we are willing to make some calls. Email me their names, email addresses, and phone #s. How many newspapers are in your county? Can you commit to making sure that each newspaper (small and large) gets a NO ON 14 letter this week? What a great organizing tool to get your local involved! There is also a great ?tag-team? method. One Greens sends a letter, IF it gets published, then another Green sends an ?in support of letter A? 24 hours after its published. This is how we get 2 letters in to the same paper.**sample letters at the end of this email. Letter writing has been made very easy: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1488/t/338/letter/?letter_KEY=632 ) I personally went to this link, typed in my zip, got 4 major newspapers, did a click and copy of what I liked best from the ?sample? info, and sent to all 4. This took me 5 minutes. I also did my own search, (knowing there are more than 4 papers in Ventura?..local community papers!) using the same 2 paragraphs and sent to 7 other papers. The whole thing took me a ? hour. If I?m published in just the 4 majors, I may reach *1,500,000 readers ? for ? hour worth of time.* We NEED 100 Greens to do the same !!. **DO NOT SEND MORE THAN 2 PARAGRAPHS. THERE ARE SIZE LIMITS AND THEY WON'T PRINT YOUR LETTER IF ITS TOO LONG** We should do outreach outside of the Green Party too - can you and fellow Greens post Stop 14 messages on Facebook, Twitter, blogs, and any other networks available?. What other organizations do you work with? Please spend some time on this - _the future of our Party is literally at stake!_ Please reply email as to what efforts are being made in your County to get this letter writing or other outreach done. We need to make sure lots of Greens are sending in letters. We can help! -------------- TAG-TEAM LETTERS Sample Letter 1: From what I've learned about Prop 14, it's based on a weak theory that was disproved by a couple states that tried it. Let's stop nibbling around the edges and make the real reforms our ailing elections system needs. We could solve the Prop 14 problem with a similar electoral reform solution that Britain is considering after their troubled 3-way Prime Minister race. We don't convert to a parliamentary system, but we use ?ranked choice voting? to attain proportional representation rather than winner-take-all elections. This would allow the creation of three main parties: Left - Center - Right. Then voters could choose candidates whom they really support. And candidates wouldn?t have to pander to constituents with whom they don?t agree. [120 words] Sample letter 2: I agree with [name]'s letter on [date] about Prop 14 not being a solution and the need for election reforms. I?ve heard complaints about our election system for years. Isn?t it time for a change? I recently learned about Instant Runoff Voting. It uses a ballot where voters get to rank all candidates instead of voting for just one, which sounds like what [name]?s letter described. This seems like a fair system and it solves a lot of problems that people complain about. I?d rather try that than Prop 14?s idea about doing away with parties in the primary and limiting the general election to just two candidates. [108 words] Prop 14 Resources: http://www.stoptoptwo.org/ http://cagreens.org/erwg/Prop14/ http://noonproposition14.com/ _______________________________________________ Contacts2006 mailing list Contacts2006 at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/contacts2006 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu May 27 18:17:53 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 18:17:53 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] protesting arizona law, veggielution In-Reply-To: <4BFD5A8E.4090203@sbcglobal.net> References: <4BFD5A8E.4090203@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4BFF19C1.3070205@aceweb.com> I went through Arizona on the ground twice during my trip that just ended. I'm proud to say that I didn't spend a dollar in the state either time. Jim Doyle wrote: > > The San Jose portion for those who are not going to Arizona > will be at Story Road and King Road in San Jose from 2:30 pm to 4:30 pm. > > At the same time you can stop at the Veggielution market. > The Veggielution operation is also at Story Road and King Road. > So you can make the journey a "twofer." > I think I'll be going to that. Anybody else? -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added a review of Bill McKibben's eaarth. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri May 28 10:23:32 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:23:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Non Aggressive Alternative Energy Businesses? Message-ID: <4BFFFC14.5090906@earthlink.net> The author says that the alternative energy businesses, (wind, solar, geothermal) are being very conservative in their goals and actions. Is that true? "Leading the World's Green Industrial Revolution" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/28-6 Gerry From fredd at freeshell.org Fri May 28 16:52:29 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:52:29 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] protesting arizona law, veggielution In-Reply-To: <4BFF19C1.3070205@aceweb.com> References: <4BFD5A8E.4090203@sbcglobal.net> <4BFF19C1.3070205@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4C00573D.2090005@freeshell.org> If you're going to Arizona, just pack a lunch and pitch a tent. fred On 5/27/10 6:17 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > I went through Arizona on the ground twice during my trip that just > ended. I'm proud to say that I didn't spend a dollar in the state > either time. > > Jim Doyle wrote: > >> The San Jose portion for those who are not going to Arizona >> will be at Story Road and King Road in San Jose from 2:30 pm to 4:30 pm. >> >> At the same time you can stop at the Veggielution market. >> The Veggielution operation is also at Story Road and King Road. >> So you can make the journey a "twofer." >> >> > I think I'll be going to that. Anybody else? > From fredd at freeshell.org Sat May 29 11:06:48 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:06:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 15 PreElection Event Message-ID: <4C0157B8.2000707@freeshell.org> DEAR FRIENDS, Palo Alto YES on PROPOSITION 15 Area Coordinator Nancy Neff and former State Assemblywoman Sally Lieber will be speaking at our house (Unit 45), or our spacious Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, depending on the size of the crowd, on Sunday, June 6, 7:00 - 8:30 pm. YOU ARE INVITED to meet and hear Nancy and Sally and to enjoy a Sunday evening of congenial chat topped off with dessert, coffee and teas. You are also invited to bring friends. (We would appreciate your replies so we can pre-estimate the size of the attendance.) We're looking forward seeing you on June 6. With warm regards, Fred and Lois Duperrault 500 W. Middlefield Rd., #45 Mountain View, CA 94043 650-691-1216 fredd at freeshell.org From fredd at freeshell.org Sat May 29 11:35:22 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:35:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Prop 15 PreElection Event Message-ID: <4C015E6A.2000206@freeshell.org> Our phone number corrected: 650-691-1215 Fred -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Prop 15 PreElection Event Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:06:48 -0700 From: fred To: South SF Bay Discuss at CA Greens DEAR FRIENDS, Palo Alto YES on PROPOSITION 15 Area Coordinator Nancy Neff and former State Assemblywoman Sally Lieber will be speaking at our house (Unit 45), or our spacious Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, depending on the size of the crowd, on Sunday, June 6, 7:00 - 8:30 pm. YOU ARE INVITED to meet and hear Nancy and Sally and to enjoy a Sunday evening of congenial chat topped off with dessert, coffee and teas. You are also invited to bring friends. (We would appreciate your replies so we can pre-estimate the size of the attendance.) We're looking forward seeing Our phoneto you on June 6. With warm regards, Fred and Lois Duperrault 500 W. Middlefield Rd., #45 Mountain View, CA 94043 650-691-1215 fredd at freeshell.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Sat May 29 12:52:09 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 12:52:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items for June 2-nd In-Reply-To: <4BFEAC1D.6030604@sbcglobal.net> References: <4BFEAC1D.6030604@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4C017069.1080007@greens.org> I'd like 10 min to talk about new info on 'IRV for San Jose.' Jim S On 5/27/2010 10:30 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Second call for agenda items for next Wednesday's > general meeting. > > The first call went unanswered. > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From JGSHURT69 at aol.com Sat May 29 17:00:30 2010 From: JGSHURT69 at aol.com (JGSHURT69 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:00:30 EDT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: "Progressive Independent" Dems Push Prop 14 Message-ID: <65d25.567458f5.3933049e@aol.com> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: JGSHURT69 at aol.com Subject: Fwd: "Progressive Independent" Dems Push Prop 14 Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 15:12:39 EDT Size: 30819 URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat May 29 18:37:27 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 18:37:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] meeting agenda items Message-ID: <4C01C157.7060300@sbcglobal.net> Let's hear from you. Submit your agenda item requests. Jim Doyle From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat May 29 20:04:32 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:04:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Prop 15 PreElection Event In-Reply-To: <4C015E6A.2000206@freeshell.org> References: <4C015E6A.2000206@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <4C01D5C0.7060707@prodsyse.com> Hi, Fred: How much to common citizens pay for our current "privately financed" political campaigns? People who think they don't pay anything if they don't contribute are exceedingly naive. On May 22, Nancy and Sally said that the citizens of one state (one of the Carolinas?) got a rebate totaling $50 million, if my memory is correct, on insurance premiums after the first insurance commissioner elected by a publicly finance campaign took office. That election cost the taxpayers between $2 M and $10 M; I can't remember the numbers, but the return on investment from public financing in that one example was at least $10 for every $1 spent. Over the past half century, the price of sugar in the US has averaged just over double the world price.(a) Research 20 years ago indicated that the sugar lobby reaped $3 billion of excess profits from this on $2.6 million in campaign "contributions".(b) That's well over $1,000 for ever $1 invested in political campaigns. With that kind of return on investment, it's no small wonder that the inflation in the cost of political campaigns far exceeds the rate of inflation in the economy as a whole. As I mentioned on May 22, this would not work if the media from which most people get their world view honestly reported the story. However, media that accept advertising will not do that for two reasons: First, they will lose revenue from the big industries whose corruption is exposed. Second, they charge political campaigns substantially more than standard commercial accounts, and stand to lose substantial sums on election years if the public ceased to be influenced by them. *** DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO NANCY AND SALLY? I tried to send an email like this to an address at their web site but did not get a reply; they may not have received it. I think this makes an incredibly strong case for Prop 15. Best Wishes, Spencer ################# (a) US Department of Agriculture Economic Research Service, Tables 3 and 4 (http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Sugar/data.htm), accessed 2010.05.29. (b) Philip M. Stern (1992) Still the Best Congress Money Can Buy (Regnery Gateway). On 5/29/2010 11:35 AM, fred wrote: > Our phone number corrected: 650-691-1215 > > Fred > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Prop 15 PreElection Event > Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:06:48 -0700 > From: fred > To: South SF Bay Discuss at CA Greens > > > > DEAR FRIENDS, > > Palo Alto YES on PROPOSITION 15 Area Coordinator Nancy Neff and former > State Assemblywoman Sally Lieber will be speaking at our house (Unit > 45), or our spacious Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, depending on the size > of the crowd, on Sunday, June 6, 7:00 - 8:30 pm. > > YOU ARE INVITED to meet and hear Nancy and Sally and to enjoy a Sunday > evening of congenial chat topped off with dessert, coffee and teas. > > You are also invited to bring friends. (We would appreciate your > replies so we can pre-estimate the size of the attendance.) > > We're looking forward seeing Our phoneto you on June 6. > > With warm regards, > > Fred and Lois Duperrault > 500 W. Middlefield Rd., #45 > Mountain View, CA 94043 > 650-691-1215 > fredd at freeshell.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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People who think they don't pay anything if they don't contribute are exceedingly naive. On May 22, Nancy and Sally said that the citizens of one state (one of the Carolinas?) got a rebate totaling $50 million, if my memory is correct, on insurance premiums after the first insurance commissioner elected by a publicly finance campaign took office. That election cost the taxpayers between $2 M and $10 M; I can't remember the numbers, but the return on investment from public financing in that one example was at least $10 for every $1 spent. Over the past half century, the price of sugar in the US has averaged just over double the world price.(a) Research 20 years ago indicated that the sugar lobby reaped $3 billion of excess profits from this on $2.6 million in campaign "contributions".(b) That's well over $1,000 for ever $1 invested in political campaigns. With that kind of return on investment, it's no small wonder that the inflation in the cost of political campaigns far exceeds the rate of inflation in the economy as a whole. As I mentioned on May 22, this would not work if the media from which most people get their world view honestly reported the story. However, media that accept advertising will not do that for two reasons: First, they will lose revenue from the big industries whose corruption is exposed. Second, they charge political campaigns substantially more than standard commercial accounts, and stand to lose substantial sums on election years if the public ceased to be influenced by them. *** DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO NANCY AND SALLY? I tried to send an email like this to an address at their web site but did not get a reply; they may not have received it. I think this makes an incredibly strong case for Prop 15. Best Wishes, Spencer ################# (a) US Department of Agriculture Economic Research Service, Tables 3 and 4 (http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Sugar/data.htm), accessed 2010.05.29. (b) Philip M. Stern (1992) Still the Best Congress Money Can Buy (Regnery Gateway). On 5/29/2010 11:35 AM, fred wrote: > Our phone number corrected: 650-691-1215 > > Fred > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Prop 15 PreElection Event > Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:06:48 -0700 > From: fred > To: South SF Bay Discuss at CA Greens > > > > DEAR FRIENDS, > > Palo Alto YES on PROPOSITION 15 Area Coordinator Nancy Neff and former > State Assemblywoman Sally Lieber will be speaking at our house (Unit > 45), or our spacious Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, depending on the size > of the crowd, on Sunday, June 6, 7:00 - 8:30 pm. > > YOU ARE INVITED to meet and hear Nancy and Sally and to enjoy a Sunday > evening of congenial chat topped off with dessert, coffee and teas. > > You are also invited to bring friends. (We would appreciate your > replies so we can pre-estimate the size of the attendance.) > > We're looking forward seeing Our phoneto you on June 6. > > With warm regards, > > Fred and Lois Duperrault > 500 W. Middlefield Rd., #45 > Mountain View, CA 94043 > 650-691-1215 > fredd at freeshell.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Green Focus 5 min No on 14 bookmarks, letters to the editor 5 min Reports Tabling reports (Berryessa, Mother?s Day) 3 min Food for Thought May 22 5 min Merriam SJSU Earth Day follow up 5 min Jim D Immigration 5 min Jim D Total time: 1 hour 27 minutes Post meeting discussions: spurring activism, abusive banks. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun May 30 23:55:46 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 23:55:46 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: flotilla murders by Israel Message-ID: I don''t know anything about the below except that it comes from Donna Wallach and I trust her. I've been taking some shit in the 9/11 Truth movement because I oppose Jew-haters like Dr. Kevin Barrett . I am an unapologetic Jew-lover. I am also a truth-seeker. Brian Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 23:27:51 -0700 Subject: Fwd: flotilla murders by Israel From: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: jack dresser Date: Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:22 PM Subject: flotilla murders by Israel To: Once again the vicious, cowardly and criminal state of Israel has attacked unarmed people on the high seas in violation of international maritime law, misusing US weapons in violation of the Arms Export Control Act and extending its long record of crimes against humanity in violation of the Foreign Assistance Act as it did to US presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney last year and as it did to the USS Liberty in 1967. Attacking a Turkish ship and killing several passengers is an act of war against a NATO state, which should be the end of any further EU or US support or protection from international justice at the very least and hopefully the beginning of massive international sanctions and criminal indictments. It is a disgrace that this flotilla of noble humanitarians and human rights activists has not received a US 6th Fleet escort to avenge the Liberty in the event of the monstrous but predictable criminality that has occurred. Israel believes it enjoys some kind of divine impunity from the laws regulating the rest of mankind and it is long past time to disabuse them of this self-inflated, grandiose delusion. If the Obama administration gave a green light to these atrocities or if UN sanctions are vetoed, thousands of us will immediately commence an impeachment movement. In addition, outraged citizens across the world will redouble our BDS commitment and demands to bring Israeli officials to trial for war crimes and crimes against humanity in international courts or courts of universal jurisdiction. Jack Dresser, Ph.D. Eugene, Oregon Behavioral Research Scientist Political & Prevention Psychology Veterans for Peace Co-director, The Al-Nakba Awareness Project -- End the Blockade of Gaza! 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