From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Nov 1 11:34:44 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:34:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON In-Reply-To: <4CCE0C70.2050805@earthlink.net> References: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net> <4CCD88F1.20309@prodsyse.com>, <4CCDAE9C.8020103@earthlink.net> <4CCE0C70.2050805@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4CCF0844.8090505@earthlink.net> I stumbled across a source that indicates Laura was not trying to get arrested: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/inoakland/detail?entry_id=74708 Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > > Brian Good wrote: >> >> I think it's great that Laura has engaged in an act of very effective >> civil disobedience >> to publicize the uselessness of closed Repemocrat debates. > > Well, I could be wrong, but it appears to me that this is > an inaccurate description of what happened. > > What happened was complicated, so I may have some errors > myself, but as near as I can tell, this is what happened: > (I was not there, I am basing this on videos and emails.) > > In this explanation I have included references to sources > where possible as S1, S2, ... S7, explained further down. > > - Laura had planned to just be one of the protestors. > I can't find a source for this.) > - Someone gave away 2 tickets. I don't know who that > someone was, or whether Laura knew who it was. You > can see him in one of the videos. You even get a > close up of the ticket (S5 @ 1:39) which has no name > on it. How was Laura supposed to know that there was > a problem with the ticket? > - Laura and Marnie decided to watch the debate from inside > with the two tickets. (S5 1:35 - 1:55) (S7) > - They passed through the first line of security with no > trouble. (S3) (S7) > - As they were approaching the door to the building, some > one came up and said something like "You are the Green > Party candidate for Governor, let me see the ticket," > then said the ticket was invalid (S1) > - Then they took her away. (S3) (S5) (S7) > - Laura had not planned on being arrested, had not wanted to > be arrested. (I can't find a source for this.) > > >> >> Her ticket was bogus, as her accusers claim, because it was issued to >> someone else and >> not to her. > > Apparently the ticket was valid, but she was not authorized to > use it. > >> We can challenge the ticket policy, but the claim that she >> had a valid ticket >> is specious. The charge of trespassing is technically correct. > > I am unclear on what basis the charge is technically correct. > Security had allowed her past the first line. You might argue > that technically they had a right to ask her to leave the area, > and technically they might have had a right to arrest her if > she refused to leave. Maybe. As far as I know they never > told her that she would be arrested if she did not leave. > > FWIW, the SJ Merc article says she was warned (S6). > > My sources of info: > > S1: > SF Chronicle: > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=74454 > > S2: > http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Green-Party-Candidate-Arrested-Outside-Debate-104825169.html > > > S3: > http://www.kcra.com/video/25372323/detail.html > > S4: > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10476668 > > S5: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6QxZPkN3MA&NR=1 > > S6: > http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_16327284?nclick_check=1 > > S7: > http://www.marinij.com/sanrafael/ci_16328485 > > Also, here is an interview with Laura: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_69DdiEPsA&NR=1 > > >> >> I disagree with the notion that all candidates should have standing to >> appear. I don't >> want the Jesus Party and the Dog-Lovers' Party making the discussion a >> circus. 10% seems >> a reasonable threshold and we need to challenge the Meg/Jerry/Undecided >> polling fiction >> head on. >> >> I am very enthusiastic about Laura's Green in 2014 campaign. The open >> primaries may >> well work for us instead of against us. Laura can draw voters from the >> Dems, the Reps, >> and the Decline-to-State (which when I last checked appears to be the >> fastest growing >> party) and can mount a realistic campaign in 2014. There will be no >> excuse to exclude >> her from the pre-primary debates. >> >> I hope she will run for some other office in 2012 to raise awareness of >> her presence. >> Barbara Lee's Congressional seat might not be the best venue. How about >> Anna Eschoo's >> seat or Zoe Lofgren's? > > She would have to move. She lives in Oakland now. > > Gerry > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:59:56 -0700 >> > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net >> > To: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com >> > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON >> > >> > >> > I just looked and I could not find that. >> > >> > Where does it say that? >> > >> > Gerry >> > >> > >> > spencerg wrote: >> > > Reading more carefully, I find, "The signature deadline has been >> reached >> > > for this petition." Spencer >> > > >> > > >> > > ######################### >> > > What do I have to do to sign the petition? I can see where to >> "Login to >> > > the Greenchange Network", but I don't see where to sign the >> petition. Do >> > > people have to "Sign Up" with the GreenChange Network to sign the >> > > petition? That's not clear, and I'm not eager to sign up. Spencer >> > > >> > > >> > > On 10/31/2010 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: >> > >> >> > >> As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will >> > >> be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is >> > >> unusual for a candidate. >> > >> >> > >> Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday. >> > >> >> > >> In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys, >> > >> and the media pay attention to how much support the >> > >> accused has. The more supporters Laura has in court, >> > >> the better it is for Laura. So I am asking that any >> > >> supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy, >> > >> or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's >> > >> arraignment. Unfortunately I won't be there, I am >> > >> committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday. >> > >> >> > >> Below are the details, and below that is the press >> > >> release. >> > >> >> > >> Also, for those who wish to have their names on the >> > >> petition, please sign as soon as possible. I understand >> > >> that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to >> > >> the District Attorney sometime on Monday. I don't know >> > >> when she will be printing the petition. >> > >> http://bit.ly/freelaurawells >> > >> >> > >> INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT: >> > >> >> > >> Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday >> > >> BE THERE BY 12:30. >> > >> >> > >> Marin County Superior Court >> > >> 3501 Civic Center Drive >> > >> San Rafael, California 94903 >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> =========== Press Release ============ >> > >> >> > >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >> > >> Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010 >> > >> Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170 >> > >> >> > >> ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND >> > >> CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION >> > >> SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL >> > >> >> > >> SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be >> > >> campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green >> Party >> > >> gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not >> just for >> > >> votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail. >> > >> >> > >> Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying >> > >> to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from >> > >> participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday >> from >> > >> 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance). >> > >> >> > >> Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition >> > >> urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss >> her >> > >> misdemeanor charges. >> > >> >> > >> She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to >> > >> face those charges. >> > >> >> > >> The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor >> > >> of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California >> > >> Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. >> She >> > >> had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you >> > >> dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an >> > >> investigation into why she was arrested." >> > >> >> > >> Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for >> > >> Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who >> > >> talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess. >> > >> >> > >> Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was >> > >> promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a >> > >> "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student >> > >> college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> > >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> > >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 1 11:56:14 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:56:14 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] holiday peace fair Message-ID: <4CCF0D4E.7020707@sbcglobal.net> A representative of the Green Party should attend this meeting. *The LAST 2010 Holiday Peace Fair Planning meeting will be Saturday 11/6 at 10 AM at the Campbell United Methodist Church, 1675 Winchester Blvd, just south of Hamilton Avenue. t will be in the Library, near the church office, but in the same bldg as the room we have used in past years for planning meetings. Look for HPF flyers on the doors that are set back where the two bldgs meet -- out of sight until you get close to the bldg where the church office is (NE corner of the campus). * * * From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 1 12:00:44 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 12:00:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] holiday peace fair (2) Message-ID: <4CCF0E5C.6060201@sbcglobal.net> *Pick up Holiday Peace Fair flyers at the San Jose Peace Center for distribution to and by your groups' members ASAP.* * * *Printed flyers and tickets for your groups to distribute will be available starting this Wednesday 11/3 at the San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street (1/2 block north of the SJ State University campus) -- usual hours are weekdays 4-7 PM.* * * *Call 408-297-2299 re number of tickets and flyers you need and to arrange when to pick them up. If you cannot get them from the peace center, call Joan G at 408-396-8039.* * * *In addition to flyers and tickets that need to be distributed to vendor groups' members, we need people to distribute flyers to libraries, community centers, neighborhoods near the church in including Wesley Manor, and the Campbell farmers market on Sunday 11/28. Please contact Joan G 408-306-8039 and/or attend the next planning meeting to help volunteer for this task! Please make a note of where your group will distribute flyers so we can get them to as many different places as possible.* * * From fredd at freeshell.org Mon Nov 1 13:43:44 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:43:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON In-Reply-To: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net> References: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4CCF2680.6060004@freeshell.org> If several (2 - 4) Greens would like to support Laura Wells at the Maine County Criminal Court House hearing tomorrow (11/02/10), we can car pool in in my car. (That arrest is a glaring act of injustice) Would supportive signs be allowed in the courtroom? If two-to-four people wish to join a pool, please let me know quite soon. We should leave my place: Willow Park Condo, 500 W. Middlefield Road, Unit 45, Mountain View (At the intersection of W. Middlefield Road and Moffett Bvld.) by 10:15 am. If more than 4 people would like to go, we could try to fill a second car, perhaps. Fred Duperrault fredd at freeshell.org 650-691-1215 On 10/31/10 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will > be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is > unusual for a candidate. > > Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday. > > In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys, > and the media pay attention to how much support the > accused has. The more supporters Laura has in court, > the better it is for Laura. So I am asking that any > supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy, > or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's > arraignment. Unfortunately I won't be there, I am > committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday. > > Below are the details, and below that is the press > release. > > Also, for those who wish to have their names on the > petition, please sign as soon as possible. I understand > that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to > the District Attorney sometime on Monday. I don't know > when she will be printing the petition. > http://bit.ly/freelaurawells > > INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT: > > Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday > BE THERE BY 12:30. > > Marin County Superior Court > 3501 Civic Center Drive > San Rafael, California 94903 > > > =========== Press Release ============ > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010 > Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170 > > ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR > > > GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND > CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION > SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL > > SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be > campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party > gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for > votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail. > > Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying > to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from > participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from > 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance). > > Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition > urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her > misdemeanor charges. > > She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to > face those charges. > > The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor > of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California > Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She > had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you > dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an > investigation into why she was arrested." > > Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for > Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who > talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess. > > Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was > promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a > "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student > college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks. > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > From wrolley at charter.net Tue Nov 2 08:21:48 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:21:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [GPCA-MediaComm] Marin County Courthouse - I NEED SOME BUDDIES TODAY! Message-ID: <4CD02C8C.4090600@charter.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] Marin County Courthouse - I NEED SOME BUDDIES TODAY! Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:58:24 -0700 From: Laura Wells To: Media - Green Party of California Party , Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens - GPCA CCWG Hello - The D.A.'s office decided not to proceed at this time, but we've put it out that I'll be at the court house at 12:30pm for a press conference and so I will go - see press release below. Sure will be nice to have some folks with me, so please RSVP if you can be there, or if you can help get some buddies there! Good luck to us all! Laura * *Laura Wells* *Green Party Candidate for Governor* P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 www.LauraWells.org * FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Monday, Nov. 1, 2010 Contact: Laura Wells 510-504-4254 or Cres Vellucci 916-996-9170 Assignment Desk/Daybook *Gubernatorial candidate spends Election Day Tuesday at arraignment; Green Party's Laura Wells fights charges, chooses Matt Gonzalez as her lawyer* SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? California gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells of the Green Party will spend her election day Tuesday, Nov. 2 appearing for her arraignment here on misdemeanor trespassing charges for the "crime" of attending a Governor's Debate Oct. 12 at Dominican University. Wells will hold a news conference at 12:30 p.m. at the MARIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, Dept. N at 12:30 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Drive). Her court appearance is at 1 p.m. Wells has retained former San Francisco Supervisor Matt Gonzalez as her attorney. Wells (www.laurawells.org ) was banned from the debate Oct. 12 because only the Democratic and Republican nominees for Governor were allowed to debate. However, when she attempted only to sit in the audience to watch, Wells was hauled away, handcuffed and arrested. In the last few days, nearly 1,000 people have signed a petition asking the Marin County DA office dismiss all charges, and investigate those responsible for her arrest. The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an investigation into why she was arrested." Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess. Among many other solutions to the state's woes, Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals and small businesses, as was promised, not large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a "State Bank" that would partner with local banks and make loans to residents, including students for college loans and profit California, not private, Wall-Street bailed-out banks. -30- ** * *Laura Wells* *Green Party Candidate for Governor* P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 www.LauraWells.org * ** * *Laura Wells* *Green Party Candidate for Governor* P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 www.LauraWells.org * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Nov 2 08:53:54 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:53:54 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [GPCA-MediaComm] Marin County Courthouse - I NEED SOME BUDDIES TODAY! In-Reply-To: <4CD02C8C.4090600@charter.net> References: <4CD02C8C.4090600@charter.net> Message-ID: <4CD03412.1010306@prodsyse.com> When they did something similar to Ralph Nader in 2000, Nader sued. The settlement included an official apology to Nader and $50,000. (www.american-buddha.com/nader.reasonman213.htm) Spencer Graves On 11/2/2010 8:21 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [GPCA-MediaComm] Marin County Courthouse - I NEED SOME > BUDDIES TODAY! > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:58:24 -0700 > From: Laura Wells > To: Media - Green Party of California Party > , Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens - GPCA CCWG > > > > > Hello - > > The D.A.'s office decided not to proceed at this time, but we've put > it out that I'll be at the court house at 12:30pm for a press > conference and so I will go - see press release below. Sure will be > nice to have some folks with me, so please RSVP if you can be there, > or if you can help get some buddies there! > > Good luck to us all! > > Laura > > * > *Laura Wells* > *Green Party Candidate for Governor* > P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 > > www.LauraWells.org > * > > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > Monday, Nov. 1, 2010 > Contact: Laura Wells 510-504-4254 or Cres Vellucci 916-996-9170 > Assignment Desk/Daybook > > *Gubernatorial candidate spends Election Day Tuesday at arraignment; > Green Party's Laura Wells fights charges, chooses Matt Gonzalez as her > lawyer* > > SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? California gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells of > the Green Party will spend her election day Tuesday, Nov. 2 appearing > for her arraignment here on misdemeanor trespassing charges for the > "crime" of attending a Governor's Debate Oct. 12 at Dominican University. > > Wells will hold a news conference at 12:30 p.m. at the MARIN COUNTY > COURTHOUSE, Dept. N at 12:30 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Drive). Her court > appearance is at 1 p.m. > > Wells has retained former San Francisco Supervisor Matt Gonzalez as > her attorney. > > Wells (www.laurawells.org ) was banned from > the debate Oct. 12 because only the Democratic and Republican nominees > for Governor were allowed to debate. However, when she attempted only > to sit in the audience to watch, Wells was hauled away, handcuffed and > arrested. > > In the last few days, nearly 1,000 people have signed a petition > asking the Marin County DA office dismiss all charges, and investigate > those responsible for her arrest. The petition states: "Laura Wells, > the Green candidate for Governor of California, was arrested on Oct. > 12, 2010 at the California Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a > violation of her civil rights. She had a ticket and the right to > attend the debate. We request that you dismiss the criminal charge > against Ms. Wells and launch an investigation into why she was arrested." > > Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for > Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who > talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess. > > Among many other solutions to the state's woes, Wells wants to > "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals and small businesses, as > was promised, not large corporations. She is promoting the concept of > a "State Bank" that would partner with local banks and make loans to > residents, including students for college loans and profit California, > not private, Wall-Street bailed-out banks. > > -30- > > > > > ** > > * > *Laura Wells* > *Green Party Candidate for Governor* > P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 > > www.LauraWells.org > * > > > > > > > ** > > * > *Laura Wells* > *Green Party Candidate for Governor* > P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 > > www.LauraWells.org > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cbrouillet at igc.org Tue Nov 2 10:54:22 2010 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:54:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Support Laura Wells- at Courthouse today Message-ID: Laura is having a press conference at the courthouse today and wants bodies for support- if I can round up a few more- I'll go to Marin- Please call me, if you can go! It's an hour 15 minute drive from here- I need to find folks fast! Carol (Palo Alto) 650-857-0927 Hello - The D.A.'s office decided not to proceed at this time, but we've put it out that I'll be at the court house at 12:30pm for a press conference and so I will go - see press release below. Sure will be nice to have some folks with me, so please RSVP if you can be there, or if you can help get some buddies there! Good luck to us all! Laura Laura Wells Green Party Candidate for Governor P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 www.LauraWells.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Monday, Nov. 1, 2010 Contact: Laura Wells 510-504-4254 or Cres Vellucci 916-996-9170 Assignment Desk/Daybook Gubernatorial candidate spends Election Day Tuesday at arraignment; Green Party's Laura Wells fights charges, chooses Matt Gonzalez as her lawyer SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? California gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells of the Green Party will spend her election day Tuesday, Nov. 2 appearing for her arraignment here on misdemeanor trespassing charges for the "crime" of attending a Governor's Debate Oct. 12 at Dominican University. Wells will hold a news conference at 12:30 p.m. at the MARIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, Dept. N at 12:30 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Drive). Her court appearance is at 1 p.m. Wells has retained former San Francisco Supervisor Matt Gonzalez as her attorney. Wells (www.laurawells.org) was banned from the debate Oct. 12 because only the Democratic and Republican nominees for Governor were allowed to debate. However, when she attempted only to sit in the audience to watch, Wells was hauled away, handcuffed and arrested. In the last few days, nearly 1,000 people have signed a petition asking the Marin County DA office dismiss all charges, and investigate those responsible for her arrest. The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an investigation into why she was arrested." Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess. Among many other solutions to the state's woes, Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals and small businesses, as was promised, not large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a "State Bank" that would partner with local banks and make loans to residents, including students for college loans and profit California, not private, Wall-Street bailed-out banks. -30- Laura Wells Green Party Candidate for Governor P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 Laura Wells www.LauraWells.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Nov 2 12:03:15 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 12:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [GPCA-MediaComm] Marin County Courthouse - I NEED SOME BUDDIES TODAY! In-Reply-To: <4CD03412.1010306@prodsyse.com> References: <4CD02C8C.4090600@charter.net> <4CD03412.1010306@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <383482.9385.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If Laura is going to continue to campaign, maybe it would be a good idea to sue. I'm sure she could use the money. Caroline ________________________________ From: spencerg To: Wes Rolley Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 8:53:54 AM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [GPCA-MediaComm] Marin County Courthouse - I NEED SOME BUDDIES TODAY! When they did something similar to Ralph Nader in 2000, Nader sued.? The settlement included an official apology to Nader and $50,000.? (www.american-buddha.com/nader.reasonman213.htm)? Spencer Graves On 11/2/2010 8:21 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject:???? [GPCA-MediaComm] Marin County Courthouse - I NEED SOME BUDDIES >TODAY! > >Date:???? Tue, 2 Nov 2010 06:58:24 -0700 >From:???? Laura Wells >To:???? Media - Green Party of California Party , >Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens - GPCA CCWG > > > > >Hello - > >The D.A.'s office decided not to proceed at this time, but we've put it out that >I'll be at the court house at 12:30pm for a press conference and so I will go - >see press release below.?? Sure will be nice to have some folks with me, so >please RSVP if you can be there, or if you can help get some buddies there! > > >Good luck to us all! > >Laura > >* >*Laura Wells* >*Green Party Candidate for Governor* >P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 > >www.LauraWells.org >* > > > > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >Monday, Nov. 1, 2010 >Contact: Laura Wells 510-504-4254 or Cres Vellucci 916-996-9170 >Assignment Desk/Daybook > >*Gubernatorial candidate spends Election Day Tuesday at arraignment; Green >Party's Laura Wells fights charges, chooses Matt Gonzalez as her lawyer* > > >SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? California gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells of the Green >Party will spend her election day Tuesday, Nov. 2 appearing for her arraignment >here on misdemeanor trespassing charges for the "crime" of attending a >Governor's Debate Oct. 12 at Dominican University. > > >Wells will hold a news conference at 12:30 p.m. at the MARIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, >Dept. N at 12:30 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Drive). Her court appearance is at 1 >p.m. > > >Wells has retained former San Francisco Supervisor Matt Gonzalez as her >attorney. > > >Wells (www.laurawells.org ) was banned from the >debate Oct. 12 because only the Democratic and Republican nominees for Governor >were allowed to debate. However, when she attempted only to sit in the audience >to watch, Wells was hauled away, handcuffed and arrested. > > >In the last few days, nearly 1,000 people have signed a petition asking the >Marin County DA office dismiss all charges, and investigate those responsible >for her arrest. The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for >Governor of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California >Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She had a >ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you dismiss the >criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an investigation into why she was >arrested." > > >Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for Controller in 2002 >on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who talks about solutions ? not >politics ? to California's budget mess. > > >Among many other solutions to the state's woes, Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 >so it benefits individuals and small businesses, as was promised, not large >corporations. She is promoting the concept of a "State Bank" that would partner >with local banks and make loans to residents, including students for college >loans and profit California, not private, Wall-Street bailed-out banks. > > >-30- > > > > >** > >* >*Laura Wells* >*Green Party Candidate for Governor* >P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 > >www.LauraWells.org >* > > > > > > >** > >* >*Laura Wells* >*Green Party Candidate for Governor* >P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610 > >www.LauraWells.org >* > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 3 03:58:53 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 03:58:53 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Re; Laura Wells Arrrest Message-ID: <4CD1406D.2020201@earthlink.net> Here's the news: "Green Party candidate avoids charges for crashing Marin debate" http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_16503469 Although the above is from the SJ Merc's website, it really comes from the Marin Independent Journal. Gerry From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Nov 3 11:29:39 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 11:29:39 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Statewide results on one page Message-ID: <4CD1AA13.8050104@aceweb.com> http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/all-state/ -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added details on how I'm going to vote on Tuesday. From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Nov 3 11:32:30 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 11:32:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] Eight GPCA election victories] Message-ID: <4CD1AABE.8060300@aceweb.com> The big news is that Dan Hamburg got elected in Mendocino County! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] Eight GPCA election victories Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 05:27:44 -0700 From: Mike Feinstein To: CCWG Listserv *On the positive side: two Green Mayors re-elected, County Supervisor victory top Green slate* *Gayle Mclaughlin, Mayor, City of Richmond, Contra Costa County (incumbent)* http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/CA/Contra_Costa/21781/39347/en/summary.html 1st/3 6,282 votes 40.43% *Bruce Delgado, Mayor, City of Marina, Monterrey County (incumbent)* http://www.montereycountyelections.us/Election%20Result_dtl.htm#cont17 1st/2 1,734 votes 56.78% *Dan Hamburg, County Supervisor, District 5 Mendocino County* http://www.co.mendocino.ca.us/acr/cgi-bin/current.pl 1st/2 2474 votes 55.28% *Joe Navarro, School Board, City of Hollister, San Benito County* http://results.sbcvote.us/#cont97 2nd/8 for 3 seats 2,424 votes 15.56% *Jesse Townley, Rent Stabilization Board, City of Berkeley, Alameda County (incumbent)* http://www.co.alameda.ca.us/rov/current_election/4354.htm 11748 votes, 14.32% 1st/9 for 6 seats *Pam Webster, Rent Stabilization Board, City of Berkeley, Alameda County (incumbent)* http://www.co.alameda.ca.us/rov/current_election/4354.htm 10839 votes 13.21% 2nd/9 for 6 seats *Lisa Stephens, Rent Stabilization Board, City of Berkeley, Alameda County (incumbent)* http://www.co.alameda.ca.us/rov/current_election/4354.htm 10253 votes 12.50 4th/9 for 6 seats *Robert Deutsch, Healthcare District, Alameda County* http://www.co.alameda.ca.us/rov/current_election/1269.htm 1st/4 for 3 seats 8049 votes 30.65% *On the bitter losses side* * * * *Alan Drusys, City Council, Yucaipa (four term incumbent)* http://www.sbcounty.gov/rov/current_elections/110210/ElectionResults/Includes/Election_Results.htm#cont975 3rd/6 for 2 seats 3,060 votes 21.82% (with 24/39 precincts 61.54%) * *Paul Franklin, Live Oak School Board (incumbent)* http://www.votescount.com/nov10/Election%20Result_dtl.htm#cont19 4th/4 for 3 seats 1,998 votes 22.16% *Dave Meserve, Arcata City Council* http://co.humboldt.ca.us/election/results/2010/2010nov-final-report.pdf 2,038 votes 25.01% 3rd place/7 for 2 seats Meserve finished first on election day among all candidates, but did so poorly among the absentee mail ballots that he lost overall *Gary Blenner, School Board, Center Unified School District (incumbent)* http://www.placerelections.com/election-night-results.aspx 5th/5 for 3 seats 58 votes 14.5% -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added details on how I'm going to vote on Tuesday. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 3 17:37:19 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:37:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Anti Democraat Rant Message-ID: <4CD2003F.4060802@earthlink.net> I don't know wnything abuut the speaker here, but the message is clear, basically what we believe in, and may get some attention. http://www.commondreams.org/further/2010/11/03-3 Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 4 10:31:21 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:31:21 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] media 101 Message-ID: <4CD2EDE9.6010404@sbcglobal.net> Media 101 Presented by the San Jose Mercury News What you will learn: >Effective techniques for writing a letter to the editor >Useful methods in strengthening your media message >How to develop strong relationships with the media Monday, November 8, 2010 12:00 P.M. to 1:30 P.M. 2400 Moorpark Ave., Room 210 San Jose, CA 95128 LUNCH WILL BE PROVIDED!!! For more information regarding this event, please contact Zelica Rodriguez: Zelica at siren-bayarea.org or (408) 453-3003 ext. 103 /Event made possible through the support of the Silicon Valley Community Foundation. / From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 4 10:54:50 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:54:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] hunger banquet Message-ID: <4CD2F36A.3090409@sbcglobal.net> 8th Annual Human Agenda Hunger Banquet *Saturday November 13, 2010 5?8 pm **First Unitarian Church, 160 N. 3rd Street, **San Jose **?The Hunger Banquet mirrors the eating habits of the world's populations through the sharing of a provocative and fun dinner experience. ? Tax Deductible Donation of $25 (adults) or $10 (students & low income) will assist Human Agenda, the Second Harvest Food Bank, Center for Employment Training (CET), and Oxfam America. No one will be turned away at the door. *COMMUNITY IMPACT AWARD The New Faces of Hunger in Silicon Valley & What We Can Do Hermelinda Sapien Executive Director, Center for Employment Training HUMAN RIGHTS AWARD Human Rights and Food Security Dan McCorquodale Former California State Senator (returning from a Human Rights Delegation to Burma on Nov. 11th) PRESENTATION >From Watsonville to Cuquio: The Impacts of Globalization in California and Jalisco Sharat Lin, President San Jose Peace and Justice Center Dr. Ann Lopez Author of The Farmworkers' Journey INSPIRATION Music by Mark Wallace From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 4 19:53:33 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:53:33 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] future SJ ballpark site Message-ID: <4CD371AD.9020200@sbcglobal.net> *Ballpark Walking Tour* *What:* See plans for future Delmas Park and Diridon Development, and discuss the impacts of local development with your neighbor. Walter Rask of the Redevelopment Agency will lead a tour with local leaders of the Delmas Park, Market Almaden and Shasta Hanchett Neighborhood Associations including Lakehouse, Auzerais, Cahill, St. Leo's, Balbach, and Georgetown neighborhoods. Come prepared to see and understand how the proposed ballpark and ballpark construction can affect your neighborhood and local business. *When:* November 6, 2010 from noon to 2:00 p.m. *Where: *Diridon Station, 65 Cahill Street, San Jos? *More Information:* Contact Phil Hood at 506-4349 or philhood at gmail.com . From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 4 20:02:19 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 20:02:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] high school conpetition Message-ID: <4CD373BB.8000903@sbcglobal.net> Here is an item that should be one of our handouts at the Junior State event. It came to me in my county supervisor's - Ken Yeager's - newsletter. *HIGH SCHOOL COMPETITION TAKES ON CLIMATE CHANGE *As a member of the California Air Resources Board (ARB), I was excited to hear the launch of our first annual Climate Generation Program, a high school competition challenging students to connect environmental school work with their daily lives. The competition creates an opportunity for students to gain real-world experience in project-management and leadership by requiring them to design programs that reduce their school?s carbon footprint. The Climate Generation Program is an outgrowth of the British Council?s Climate Champions program, and is being coordinated in a network of 60 countries. In California, ARB is overseeing the competition. A new curriculum?known as the California Education and the Environment Initiative? will be promoted as an important element of the new Climate Generation program. It was developed to help students discover how science, history and social science relate to individual lives and connect to the world around them, focusing on their relationship to the environment. The curriculum is designed to engage students in a way that makes learning relevant and fun. High schools throughout California are eligible to participate in the Climate Generation Program. The classroom projects must benefit the school and relate to energy conservation, renewable energy, water conservation, transportation, purchasing, facilities, or awareness. Schools can register now through December. More information can be found at http://www.coolcalifornia.org/article/champion-the-cause. From wrolley at charter.net Thu Nov 4 21:06:10 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 21:06:10 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: UPDATE Up by 568 votes, thousands still to be counted Message-ID: <4CD382B2.8060805@charter.net> Still don't know who my Congressman is... yet. However, I hope that Harmer spends all his money on lawyers and then still loses. McNerney's opponent is on record (SF Chronicle) as wanting to "phase out" public schools. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: UPDATE Up by 568 votes, thousands still to be counted Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 22:51:44 -0400 From: Robbyn Umland, McNerney for Congress Reply-To: Info at JerryMcNerney.org To: wrolley at charter.net Jerry McNerney for Congress Dear Wes, I wanted you to be the first to get our update. Yesterday, we were up 121 votes; *today, we?re up 568 votes*. Here?s what?s happening right now. There are still thousands of vote-by-mail and provisional ballots that need to be counted for the first time. As I?m writing to you, county registrars are preparing to tally. Our opponent?s lawyers are already arguing to get ballots thrown out of the process. We need your help to make sure every single vote is counted. *I need you to give now ? $12, $35, $100 ? whatever you can right now ? to help us make sure this process is fair and transparent*. Our opponent already sent an email riling up his base by claiming voter fraud even before all of the votes are counted. He?s got attorneys and his Tea Party volunteers in every location where ballots are being tallied. We?re there too, but it takes resources to keep the gears turning. We need our people there to watch the votes being counted and make sure the other side doesn?t subvert the process. *We?re standing up so that this count is fair and transparent*. Please give what you can today and help us make sure every single voter?s voice is heard . Sincerely, Robbyn __________________ Robbyn Umland McNerney for Congress *PS -* Anything you can donate today goes towards making sure we can keep this count fair and transparent . *Keep checking your email, we?ll keep you updated on the process*. Contributions and gifts to McNerney for Congress are not tax deductible. Individuals may contribute $2,400 per election; $4,800 per cycle. Federal law prohibits contributions to the campaign from corporations, labor organizations and national banks; from any person contributing another person?s funds; from foreign nationals who lack permanent resident status; from federal government contractors. Paid for by McNerney for Congress. 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"Bill Moyers: 'Welcome to the Plutocracy!'" http://www.truth-out.org/bill-moyers-money-fights-hard-and-it-fights-dirty64766 Gerry From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Nov 5 12:18:36 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:18:36 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Our expedition to Marin County for Laura Wells Message-ID: <4CD4588C.8040103@aceweb.com> http://tian.greens.org/GreenParty/LauraWells/MarinCourthouse/index.html -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The manga video pin I got in '04 is on a Maryland quarter right now. From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Nov 5 14:05:29 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 14:05:29 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] What I saw of the Greens on Election Day Message-ID: <4CD47199.6080904@aceweb.com> http://tian.greens.org/GreenParty/LauraWells/ElectionNightParty/index.html -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The manga video pin I got in '04 is on a Maryland quarter right now. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 7 16:32:08 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:32:08 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] media 101 Message-ID: <4CD74508.6080600@sbcglobal.net> Media 101 Presented by the San Jose Mercury News What you will learn: >Effective techniques for writing a letter to the editor >Useful methods in strengthening your media message >How to develop strong relationships with the media Monday, November 8, 2010 12:00 P.M. to 1:30 P.M. 2400 Moorpark Ave., Room 210 San Jose, CA 95128 LUNCH WILL BE PROVIDED!!! For more information regarding this event, please contact Zelica Rodriguez: Zelica at siren-bayarea.org or (408) 453-3003 ext. 103 /Event made possible through the support of the Silicon Valley Community Foundation. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Nov 7 16:40:36 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:40:36 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [South Bay Cycling] FW: [wwbc] Vail, CO story - won't charge hit and run driver with felony because i t would jepordize his job Message-ID: <4CD74704.6080309@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [South Bay Cycling] FW: [wwbc] Vail, CO story - won't charge hit and run driver with felony because i t would jepordize his job Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:05:00 -0700 From: Ellen Fletcher To: bikes at svbcbikes.org > ------ Forwarded Message > > From: Jeff Orum > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 21:46:19 GMT > To: , > Subject: [wwbc] Vail, CO story - won't charge hit and run driver with felony > because i t would jepordize his job > > This driver seriously injures a cyclist and flees. He is caught, but the DA > won't prosecute this as a felony because he's worried that the driver may be > unable to keep his job, where he is dedicated to "ultra high net worth > individuals, their families and foundations." > > See the story at: > http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20101104/NEWS/101109939/1078&ParentProfile=10 > 62 > > There is an on-line petition that can be signed protesting this decision at: > http://www.change.org/petitions/view/da_mark_hurlbert_dont_drop_felony_charges > _against_hit-and-run_wealth_manager > > _______________________________________________ > wwbc at svbcbikes.org mailing list > Unsubscribe info: http://www.westernwheelers.org/main/unsubscribe.htm > http://lists.svbcbikes.org/listinfo.cgi/wwbc-svbcbikes.org ------ End of Forwarded Message _______________________________________________ This list is not monitored by the Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition board or staff members and no information herein represents official SVBC positions or policy. 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Bikes at lists.svbc.dreamhost.com http://lists.svbc.dreamhost.com/listinfo.cgi/bikes-svbc.dreamhost.com From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Nov 7 16:48:53 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:48:53 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior Statesmen Message-ID: <4CD748F5.8040306@earthlink.net> We discussed Junior Statesmen at the meeting Wednesday, but I don't remember any conclusions. What were they? Who is going when? The time period is 1:45 to 4:45 on Saturday, Nov. 20, (2 weeks from yesterday). Gerry From jamboi at rachel.greens.org Mon Nov 8 13:09:06 2010 From: jamboi at rachel.greens.org (jamboi at rachel.greens.org) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:09:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GreenTu & Ubuntu Hours: Computer help for everyone - Th 11th, 18th Message-ID: <46477.69.236.172.187.1289250546.squirrel@greens.org> Hey all, Ubunutu (pronounced like oo-boon-too), is an absolutely free alternative operating system for your PC or Mac. Surf the web, read email, create documents, edit documents and choose from thousands of free applications. Ubuntu is fast, easy and best of its 100% free! GreenTu is a cooperative i've founded that is helping people to use Ubuntu and other FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) to make their computing effective and fun. FLOSS equips people with free/affordable and appropriate technology and is especially tailor made for empowering Green activists. If you are interested in being a part of GreenTu or getting some computer help or training from GreenTu please feel free to contact me and leave a message at 408-520-1652. There are two upcoming casual (and newcomer-friendly) opportunities for people to come and learn more about Ubuntu: 'Ubuntu Hour' events. Ubuntu Hour is a casual social event at a cafe where Ubuntu OS fans can hang out, discuss and get help with Ubuntu. All are welcome! These are put on by the volunteer Ubuntu California Local Community Team, which i'm a member of. 1) SJ Ubuntu Hour this upcoming Thu: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/551/detail/ 2) MV Ubuntu Hour, following Thur http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/550/detail/, Come join us for Silicon Valley's Ubuntu Hour #2, this time in San Jose: * Date: Thursday: November 11, 2010 Time: 7ish-8pmish Philz Coffee 118 Paseo de San Antonio, San Jose, CA 95112 Cafe: 408-971-4212 Details and RSVP, : http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/551/detail/ A few blocks from Caltrain, VTA bus and light rail and next to SJ State. A 'green' coffee shop with wifi nex & #3 in Mountain View where we did #1 * Date: Thursday: November 18, 2010 Time: 7ish-8pmish Red Rock Coffee: 2nd floor 201 Castro St. Mountain View, CA 94041 (650) 967-4473 Details and RXVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/550/detail/, A few blocks from Caltrain, VTA bus and light rail. They have sandwiches, free wifi and coffee shop type drinks. You can call leave a message for me at 408-520-1652 Drew Johnson GreenTu e-mail address: nUboon2Age at gmail.com From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Nov 8 14:52:06 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 14:52:06 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: How we won with 1.4% of the vote... Message-ID: <4CD87F16.1060807@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: How we won with 1.4% of the vote... Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:22:13 -0500 (EST) From: Green Party of the United States Reply-To: gpinfo at gp.org To: santaclara at cagreens.org Back to GP.org Green Party Donate to the Green Party _ _ How We Won With 1.4% of the Vote It was a small victory, but one that begs to be duplicated across the country. Last week Howie Hawkins, the Green Party of New York State's candidate for Governor, polled over 58,000 votes for just under 1.5% of the total for that office. Howie won't be going to Albany with those numbers, but those fifty thousand votes translate into ballot access for Green Party candidates in New York for the next four years. Now, instead of having to petition their way onto ballots for each election between now and 2014, New York candidates from city councils on up to our 2012 Presidential ticket can spend their time and resources promoting their campaigns. The same thing can happen in Texas, thanks to the Green Party's Ed Lindsay. When he polled 6% for Comptroller of Public Accounts, the Green Party of Texas won continued access to the ballot for the next four years. Can you help us build similar campaigns across the country? Last week, just under 55% of American voters saw a Green Party candidate somewhere on their ballot. With the victories of last Tuesday, Green Party candidates in the four most populous states in the U.S. will have access to the ballot simultaneously for the first time in over a decade. Can you help us expand this list, and work toward the day when every Green Party candidate in the country has the same right to the ballot as Democrats and Republicans? Green Parties from California to Michigan to Massachusetts also won continuing access to ballots in their states. The road to guaranteed access to ballots in 2012 begin today. Can you get behind us and turn small wins like Howie Hawkins' 1.4% in New York into big wins? Thank you for your support! P.S. Did you know that the eleven Green Party candidates for U.S. Senate polled over a half-million votes last week, the highest total since 2000? The Green Senatorial Campaign Committee contributed to ten of these candidates and continues to work for future Green Party candidates for U.S. Senate (and U.S. House!). Find out more about the committee and support their work here . Support the Green Party! Donate today . A Greener future is within our reach. Your donation today can help us bring the vision we share a little closer to reality. Spread this message on Facebook and on Twitter . You can sustain the Green Party by making a recurring donation on a monthly basis. Donate here . Thank you! Unsubscribe from future mailings here . empowered by Salsa From snug.bug at hotmail.com Mon Nov 8 15:45:31 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:45:31 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Chomsky on Faith-Based Wars and 9/11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Noam Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that the US had invaded Afghanistan supposedly to get the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks, but provided no evidence that al Qaeda was guilty because they didn't have any. He also pointed out the "mission creep" as within weeks the goal shifted from getting bin Laden to overthrowing Taliban. All of this, Chomsky says, was totally illegal and criminal. This 5-minute video "Chomsky on Faith-Based Wars and 9/11" shows Chomsky's statements and provides contextual material, including charges by Seymour Hersh of The New Yorker that the US military allowed al Qaeda members to escape into Pakistan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mprzq1mA9Jk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Nov 8 20:51:31 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:51:31 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Lessons from my school board campaign Message-ID: <4CD8D353.8020702@charter.net> Comments from a winning first time candidate. Joe was the energy that tried to organize San Benito County a couple of years ago. He is also a Chicano Poet. I invite you to read some of his writings from the link below... along with his description of how he got elected. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Lessons from my school board campaign Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:24:07 -0800 (PST) From: Joe Navarro To: Joe Navarro Here are some lessons from my school board campaign. Please take a moment to read this summary. Please let me know what you think. Thank you. --Joe Navarro http://joenavarro.weebly.com/5/post/2010/11/some-lessons-from-my-school-board-campaign.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 8 21:50:38 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:50:38 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] volunteers Message-ID: <4CD8E12E.8000009@sbcglobal.net> Gerry Gras wrote at about 6 pm Tuesday I have to run out the door, so this will be too brief. I just received 2 calls, about 5 minutes apart, from girls at Presentation High School who are looking for something to do for a class project. So it would be good to provide them with something. Gerry Mu initial suggestions: Leafletting, door hanging, tabling, presentations of their work to school classes,* ... *chairing a meeting*, ... *which would require prior preparation of the corresponding materials on our part Jim Doyle * * From fredd at freeshell.org Mon Nov 8 22:22:23 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 22:22:23 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] volunteers In-Reply-To: <4CD8E12E.8000009@sbcglobal.net> References: <4CD8E12E.8000009@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4CD8E89F.305@freeshell.org> Maybe they could help with our CD/DVD recycling collection boxes. Fred On 11/8/10 9:50 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Gerry Gras wrote at about 6 pm Tuesday > > > I have to run out the door, so this will be too brief. > > I just received 2 calls, about 5 minutes apart, from > girls at Presentation High School who are looking for > something to do for a class project. So it would be > good to provide them with something. > > Gerry > > Mu initial suggestions: > Leafletting, door hanging, tabling, presentations of their work to > school classes,* ... *chairing a meeting*, ... > *which would require prior preparation of the corresponding > materials on our part > > Jim Doyle > * > * > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > From jamboi at rachel.greens.org Mon Nov 8 15:41:03 2010 From: jamboi at rachel.greens.org (jamboi at rachel.greens.org) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:41:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FLOSS for ms Windows, Mac and Linux (such as Ubuntu) : was Re: GreenTu & Ubuntu Hours: Computer help for everyone - Th 11th, 18th In-Reply-To: <49290.69.236.172.187.1289259421.squirrel@greens.org> References: <46477.69.236.172.187.1289250546.squirrel@greens.org> <54645.69.236.172.187.1289252986.squirrel@greens.org> <49290.69.236.172.187.1289259421.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <59090.69.236.172.187.1289259663.squirrel@greens.org> Here's some additional FLOSS/FOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software). FLOSS for ms Windows: http://www.opensourcewindows.org/ FLOSS for Mac OS X: http://www.opensourcemac.org/ FLOSS for Linux: basically almost all Linux software is FLOSS. Ubuntu: An easy to use member of the Linux family: http://Ubuntu.com Mint Linux: Another very easy to use Linux distribution: http://www.linuxmint.com/ http://www.fossweb.com/ More about what FLOSS is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open_source_software Clarification: The English word 'free' has several meanings including that of 1) no cost and 2) liberated. The term FLOSS is talking specifically about the liberated part. But in by far most all of the cases it just so happens that FLOSS software is also no cost or low-cost. Drew Johnson GreenTu Founder nUboon2Age at gmail.com 408-520-1652 > Hey all, > > Ubunutu (pronounced like oo-boon-too), is an absolutely free alternative > operating system for your PC or Mac. Surf the web, read email, create > documents, edit documents and choose from thousands of free applications. > Ubuntu is fast, easy and best of its 100% free! > > GreenTu is a cooperative i've founded that is helping people to use Ubuntu > and other FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) to make their computing > effective and fun. FLOSS equips people with free/affordable and > appropriate technology and is especially tailor made for empowering Green > activists. If you are interested in being a part of GreenTu or getting > some computer help or training from GreenTu please feel free to contact me > and leave a message at 408-520-1652. > > There are two upcoming casual (and newcomer-friendly) opportunities for > people to come and learn more about Ubuntu: 'Ubuntu Hour' events. Ubuntu > Hour is a casual social event at a cafe where Ubuntu OS fans can hang out, > discuss and get help with Ubuntu. All are welcome! These are put on by > the volunteer Ubuntu California Local Community Team, which i'm a member > of. > > 1) SJ Ubuntu Hour this upcoming Thu: > http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/551/detail/ > 2) MV Ubuntu Hour, following Thur > http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/550/detail/, > > Come join us for Silicon Valley's Ubuntu Hour #2, this time in San Jose: > > * Date: Thursday: November 11, 2010 > Time: 7ish-8pmish > Philz Coffee > 118 Paseo de San Antonio, > San Jose, CA 95112 > Cafe: 408-971-4212 > Details and RSVP, : http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/551/detail/ > A few blocks from Caltrain, VTA bus and light rail and next to SJ > State. A 'green' coffee shop with wifi nex > > & #3 in Mountain View where we did #1 > > * Date: Thursday: November 18, 2010 > Time: 7ish-8pmish > Red Rock Coffee: 2nd floor > 201 Castro St. > Mountain View, CA 94041 > (650) 967-4473 > Details and RXVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/550/detail/, > A few blocks from Caltrain, VTA bus and light rail. They have > sandwiches, free wifi and coffee shop type drinks. > > > You can call leave a message for me at 408-520-1652 > > Drew Johnson > GreenTu e-mail address: nUboon2Age at gmail.com > From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Nov 9 09:47:42 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:47:42 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The difference between Republicans and Democrats Message-ID: I finally found it! There is one, after all. The Republicans impeach, even when they shouldn't. The Democrats don't, even when they should. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Nov 9 10:59:33 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 10:59:33 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: The Ultimate Roller Coaster Ride!] Message-ID: <4CD99A15.70205@aceweb.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: The Ultimate Roller Coaster Ride! Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:49:05 EST From: DontBeFuelish at aol.com To: tnharter at aceweb.com A brief history of fossil fuels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ-J91SwP8w Tian http://tian.greens.org If AOL wasn't too cheap to keep their password changing tool working the icon associated with SF's Halloween critical mass ride would be on a Kentucky quarter and the password associated with it would have "KY" in it. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The manga video pin I got in '04 is on a Vermont quarter right now. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Nov 9 11:09:39 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:09:39 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] volunteers In-Reply-To: <4CD8E12E.8000009@sbcglobal.net> References: <4CD8E12E.8000009@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4CD99C73.5040805@earthlink.net> Jim Doyle wrote: > Gerry Gras wrote at about 6 pm Tuesday > > > I have to run out the door, so this will be too brief. > > I just received 2 calls, about 5 minutes apart, from > girls at Presentation High School who are looking for > something to do for a class project. So it would be > good to provide them with something. > > Gerry > > Mu initial suggestions: > Leafletting, door hanging, tabling, presentations of their work to > school classes,* ... *chairing a meeting*, ... > *which would require prior preparation of the corresponding > materials on our part > > Jim Doyle > * > * Are you suggesting that we ask them to do something we are not doing or to join us in something we are doing? At the moment I have gotten an email from only one, so I don't know if I will be hearing from the other. Apparently the reason for the interest now is a class project, and a report has to be turned in on December 7th. So for this one volunteer (or two ..) it has to happen well before Decemebr 7th. Also it should take about 7 hours. For the first volunteer I suggest that she participate in tabling at the Junor Statesen event on Nov. 20, but only afer taking some time to learn about the GP so she can intelligently answer questions. Gerry From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Nov 9 15:00:07 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:00:07 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The difference between Republicans and Democrats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CD9D277.4090102@aceweb.com> Doh! I guessed that the patron saint of the Republican Party is on the cent, and the patron saint of the Democratic Party is on the dime, making the difference between Democrats and Republicans nine cents! Brian Good wrote: > > I finally found it! There is one, after all. > > The Republicans impeach, even when they shouldn't. > The Democrats don't, even when they should. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The manga video pin I got in '04 is on a Tennessee quarter right now. From jims at greens.org Tue Nov 9 19:48:20 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:48:20 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] volunteers In-Reply-To: <4CD99C73.5040805@earthlink.net> References: <4CD8E12E.8000009@sbcglobal.net> <4CD99C73.5040805@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4CDA1604.2030307@greens.org> How about a research project on the success or failure of Alameda's first use of ranked-choice voting? Jim On 11/9/2010 11:09 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > Jim Doyle wrote: >> Gerry Gras wrote at about 6 pm Tuesday >> >> >> I have to run out the door, so this will be too brief. >> >> I just received 2 calls, about 5 minutes apart, from >> girls at Presentation High School who are looking for >> something to do for a class project. So it would be >> good to provide them with something. >> >> Gerry >> >> Mu initial suggestions: >> Leafletting, door hanging, tabling, presentations of their work to >> school classes,* ... *chairing a meeting*, ... >> *which would require prior preparation of the corresponding >> materials on our part >> >> Jim Doyle >> * >> * > > Are you suggesting that we ask them to do something we are > not doing or to join us in something we are doing? > > At the moment I have gotten an email from only one, so I > don't know if I will be hearing from the other. > > Apparently the reason for the interest now is a class > project, and a report has to be turned in on December 7th. > So for this one volunteer (or two ..) it has to happen > well before Decemebr 7th. Also it should take about > 7 hours. > > For the first volunteer I suggest that she participate > in tabling at the Junor Statesen event on Nov. 20, but > only afer taking some time to learn about the GP so > she can intelligently answer questions. > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 9 21:39:09 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 21:39:09 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] high school volunteers Message-ID: <4CDA2FFD.8080806@sbcglobal.net> Who has some time to spend with one or two of the Presentation High School students who have a project due by December 7-th. An opportunity to be with members of a younger generation. Jim Doyle From wrolley at charter.net Wed Nov 10 07:39:59 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 07:39:59 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] volunteers In-Reply-To: <4CDA1604.2030307@greens.org> References: <4CD8E12E.8000009@sbcglobal.net> <4CD99C73.5040805@earthlink.net> <4CDA1604.2030307@greens.org> Message-ID: <4CDABCCF.3030301@charter.net> On 11/9/2010 7:48 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > How about a research project on the success or failure of Alameda's > first use of ranked-choice voting? > > Jim > Great idea. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Nov 10 11:04:22 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:04:22 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Gerhard Schroeder says Bush Memoir "Not Telling the Truth" Message-ID: Bush writes that former Chancellor Schroeder said "Nations that sponsor terror must face consequences" and offered German support for the Iraq war. Not so, says Schroeder, explaining that he made clear that only should it prove that Iraq "provided protection and hospitality to al Qaeda fighters" would Germany "reliably stand beside the US." http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/10/ex-german-chancellor-accuses-bush-of-untruths-in-memoir/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 10 20:48:28 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:48:28 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] holiday peace fair table Message-ID: <4CDB759C.6020500@sbcglobal.net> Who is heading the holiday peace fair tabling? I have received a notice about changing table location that I can forward to that person. Jim Doyle From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Nov 10 22:02:49 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:02:49 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] DRAFT: Deadline to Register Green or Decline to Stateto run for Partisan Office in 2012] Message-ID: <4CDB8709.9080301@aceweb.com> Please forward this to everybody that you can think of that might run for something in 2012. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] DRAFT: Deadline to Register Green or Decline to Stateto run for Partisan Office in 2012 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 16:07:56 -0800 From: Mike Feinstein To: CCWG Listserv References: <49A63126.4020807 at feinstein.org> *DRAFT: Deadline to Register Green or Decline to State to run for Partisan Office in 2012* Are you thinking of running for partisan office in California in 2012? *1) To Run as a Green for Partisan Office in 2012, one must either be registered Green or 'decline to state' by March 9th, 2011 [EC 8001(a)(2)]* *and then if registered 'decline to state' by March 11th, 2011, then registered Green no later than December 9th, 2011 [EC 8001(a)(2*)]. Registration must either be post-marked by March 9th or they go by the date of affidavit. *2) The partisan offices up in 2012 are:* 80 State Assembly http://www.legislature.ca.gov/legislators_and_districts/districts/assemblydistricts.html http://www.assembly.ca.gov/clerk/MEMBERINFORMATION/memberdir_1.asp 20 State Senate http://www.legislature.ca.gov/legislators_and_districts/districts/senatedistricts.html http://www.sen.ca.gov/ftp/SEN/senplan/senate.htp http://www.senate.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senators.htp 52 Congressional Seats http://www.alllaw.com/state_resources/california/congressional_delegation/ http://www.nationalatlas.gov/printable/images/pdf/congdist/pagecgd110_ca.pdf http://www.nationalatlas.gov/printable/congress.html#ca One US Senate Seat To get a sense of the deadlines, requirements and fees for these races, here are helpful links from the 2008 election cycle: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/june-2010/section-5-june-2010-primary-election-calendar.pdf http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2010-elections/calendar/pdfs/general-election-2010-calendar.pdf http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/running-for-office/2010/november-2-2010-general-election.htm For the platform of the Green Party of California, see http://www.cagreens.org/platform/ For more about the deadlines to be registered Green, see this section of the California Election Code: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=elec&group=07001-08000&file=8000-8004 Please forward to others who you think might be interested. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org The manga video pin I got in '04 is on an Ohio quarter right now. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Fred -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Will your friends help us fight back against Obama's surrender on Bush tax cuts? Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:06:53 -0600 From: CREDO Action To: fredd at freeshell.org Thanks for taking action. Here are some ways you can spread the word to make sure Speaker Nancy Pelosi gets the message loud and clear. If you are on Facebook, click here to post the petition to your Wall. If you have a Twitter account, click here to automatically tweet: Tell Pelosi: Don't let Pres. Obama surrender on Bush tax cuts for wealthy: http://bit.ly/a8aNUB You can also send the following e-mail to your friends and family. Spreading the word is critical, but please only pass this message along to those who know you -- spam hurts our campaign. Thanks for all you do. --The CREDO Action Team Here's a sample message to send to your friends: Subject: Tell Speaker Pelosi: Stop Obama from surrendering on Bush tax cuts Dear Friend, It's already started. President Obama is preemptively compromising with the Tea Party, even before the new Congress is seated in Washington, DC. According to an article in the Huffington Post, the Obama administration has preemptively caved to rightwing demands to continue Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest two percent of American taxpayers. President Obama has caved, but progressives in the House can still step up to the plate and make sure we don't continue one of the biggest economic injustices of the Bush era. Democrats still hold a strong majority, and Nancy Pelosi is still Speaker of the House. She must call the Obama Administration on its outrageous pre-emptive compromise and get members of the House on the record for or against the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy with an immediate up or down vote. I just joined CREDO to tell Speaker Pelosi: If Obama won't lead, you must. Call an immediate vote on the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. 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Drew > Who is heading the holiday peace fair tabling? > > I have received a notice about changing table location > that I can forward to that person. > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From jamboi at rachel.greens.org Mon Nov 15 02:07:59 2010 From: jamboi at rachel.greens.org (jamboi at rachel.greens.org) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 02:07:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The difference between Republicans and Democrats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <59010.98.234.185.152.1289815679.squirrel@greens.org> Yup, i learned that a long time ago. The Duopoly has bipolar and codependent aspects: It has the Perpetrator 'side', Victim 'side' and they take turns playing the 'Rescuers'. Drew > I finally found it! There is one, after all. > > The Republicans impeach, even when they shouldn't. > The Democrats don't, even when they should. From palmheaven at gmail.com Mon Nov 15 13:39:29 2010 From: palmheaven at gmail.com (Sustainable Handyman) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:39:29 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The difference between Republicans and Democrats In-Reply-To: <59010.98.234.185.152.1289815679.squirrel@greens.org> References: <59010.98.234.185.152.1289815679.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: Tian, I liked the coin metaphor, but I always likened the two as two sides of the same coin. I used to think one side was the evil twin of the other. Heads they win, tails we lose. Random thought: Hey, over in Europe the Greens are real players, I wonder if there is a way WE can leverage THEIR successes to kick OUR movement into a higher gear? Roy III -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Mon Nov 15 17:00:01 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:00:01 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The difference between Republicans and Democrats In-Reply-To: <4CE1AD50.2020201@prodsyse.com> References: <59010.98.234.185.152.1289815679.squirrel@greens.org>, , <4CE1AD50.2020201@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: I don't know anything about the Progressive Party except that they've got a cool logo http://www.progparty.org/ and they helped convince Condi Rice to keep her skanky ass out of Portland last Saturday. http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/11/13/condoleezza-price-cancels-portland-visit-but-protesters-still-show/ Members from Individuals For Justice, Veterans For Peace, PPRC, Code Pink, Oregon Progressive Party and others gathered at the Downtown Hilton to celebrate Condi's decision not to show up because of a planned protest. http://www.opednews.com/articles/Where-Oh-Where-is-Condi-by-Joe-Walsh-101113-470.html Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:59:44 -0800 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com To: palmheaven at gmail.com CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; jamboi at rachel.greens.org Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] The difference between Republicans and Democrats European Greens form coalitions. I think we should find a way to collaborate with the Peace and Freedom Party. In this last election, the Libertarians largely outpolled the other three minor parties. The combination of Peace and Freedom outpolled the Libertarians. And Libertarians combined with the American Independents outpolled my hypothetical Green+Peace&Freedom coalition. It might be possible to form a three-way coalition of Greens, Peace & Freedom and Am.Indep.; that would be more difficult than with just the Peace & Freedom, but it could also be substantially more effective. Spencer On 11/15/2010 1:39 PM, Sustainable Handyman wrote: Tian, I liked the coin metaphor, but I always likened the two as two sides of the same coin. I used to think one side was the evil twin of the other. Heads they win, tails we lose. Random thought: Hey, over in Europe the Greens are real players, I wonder if there is a way WE can leverage THEIR successes to kick OUR movement into a higher gear? 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URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Nov 15 21:48:16 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:48:16 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The difference between Republicans and Democrats In-Reply-To: References: <59010.98.234.185.152.1289815679.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <4CE21B20.40008@aceweb.com> The problem I have with calling them "two sides of the same coin" is that they don't represent me. What coin can I point for me if that's true? If Lincoln is the (R) penny and Roosevelt the (D) dime, I can make the case that Jefferson* is Green, or Washington is Green or Sacajawea is Green. Just try different things looking for one that everybody likes. Also, if they are both sides of the same coin, what coin are we talking about? Is it legal tender? How does it relate to that old saying, "politics is about money", as many have said. My best idea for leveraging other Green Partys is to take pictures of them when they appear in my life on TV. Consider the current pictures at the top of: http://tian.greens.org Tian *Probably it shouldn't be Jefferson because he considered Political Parties completely evil. That's why Virginia doesn't have political parties on their ballot to this day. Sustainable Handyman wrote: > Tian, > > I liked the coin metaphor, but I always likened the two as two sides of > the same coin. I used to think one side was the evil twin of the > other. Heads they win, tails we lose. > > Random thought: Hey, over in Europe the Greens are real players, I > wonder if there is a way WE can leverage THEIR successes to kick OUR > movement into a higher gear? > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added a picture of a wooden nickel and some ground cumin. The manga video pin I got in '04 is on an Arkansas quarter right now. From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Nov 15 22:06:57 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:06:57 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Wellington's new mayor a party pioneer] Message-ID: <4CE21F81.4030201@aceweb.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [G-C-F] Wellington's new mayor a party pioneer Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:54:39 -0800 From: Hank Chapot To: gpca forum Wellington's new mayor a party pioneer BY KATIE CHAPMAN - The Dominion Post Last updated 05:00 14/10/2010 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4230364/Wellingtons-new-mayor-a-party-pioneer FLOWER POWER: Celia Wade-Brown celebrates winning the Wellington mayoral race with her husband, Alastair Nicholson. A member of the Greens for more than 15 years, Ms Wade-Brown stood as an independent. Wellington goes green and cuddly Politics Celia Wade-Brown has become New Zealand's first Green mayor ? a moment being described as a "watershed" by the party leader. Green Party members flocked to congratulate Ms Wade-Brown when her narrow victory over incumbent Wellington mayor Kerry Prendergast was announced yesterday, with co-leader Russel Norman, former leader Jeanette Fitzsimons and MP Sue Kedgley among them. Although Ms Wade-Brown stood as an independent, she has been a member of the Greens for more than 15 years, and becomes the first party member elected to a mayoral office. Dame Sukhinder "Sukhi" Turner, mayor of Dunedin from 1994 to 2005, was affiliated with the Greens, but was not a member. Dr Norman said getting a member into the capital city's top job was a coup. "It's a bit of a watershed for the party. Having a Green mayor in the capital city is a bit of a breakthrough for the city." Getting Greens into local government was a strategy of the party, because so many important decisions were made at local and regional level, he said. The party would be talking to Ms Wade-Brown, but would not be trying to overtly influence her mayoralty, he said. "The Greens obviously don't operate a rigid party discipline. We'll talk to Celia, but I'm sure Celia will talk with all other political leaders as well." Asked if she was answerable to the Green Party hierarchy, Ms Wade-Brown said she served Wellington first. "I stood as an independent candidate. I firmly support the principles of looking after our ecology, appropriate decision-making and a just society. I'm answerable to the people of Wellington." Dr Norman said Ms Wade-Brown's win, with Len Brown for the Auckland super-city mayoralty, showed the public wanted to move toward more sustainable policies, particularly around transport. "The idea that you can just keep on relentlessly building motorways just doesn't convince people." When asked about suggestions that ? had she lost ? Ms Wade-Brown would have stood in a general election, high on the Green Party list, he said he had not heard that rumour, but it would have been on the cards. _______________________________________________ cal-forum mailing list cal-forum at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cal-forum -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added a picture of a wooden nickel and some ground cumin. The manga video pin I got in '04 is on an Arkansas quarter right now. From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Nov 16 14:48:24 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:48:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notes from General Meeting--December Party! Message-ID: <186703.11015.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> November 3, 2010 General Meeting Present: Dana, Fred, Drew, Cameron, Jim S., Warner, Tian, Gerry, Caroline, Merriam Facilitator: Jim S. Note Taker: Caroline Timekeeper: Tian Vibes Watchers: Fred and Dana Agenda Preparer for next meeting (January): Warner Announcements: Fred: people should see "South of the Border" Tian: A Green got on the Bart board. Several people are on boards of supervisors Fred: Ben Mansky got 30% or so in his bid Cameron: he is doing a table of software at the Peace Fair, separate from the Green table. Drew will help him Election results: One of our candidates for state senator did very well. We need to find an issue we can get behind and make a lot of noise about, for example, corporate personhood or a new state constitution. Merriam said there is an issue that is environmental. We had several state nurseries to grow trees to replace those lost in fires, among other things. The last one of these, in Chico, is set to be closed down soon. CAlFire was in charge of this. We had very few fires this year. Why don't we have the money to keep this going? Private nurseries can't provide the right plants. Caroline will ask her daughter who works for Fish and Game to get more inside info on this situation. Merriam suggested that she, Dana, and Tian take on the project and get in touch with Canopy, Acterra, Wendee Crowfoot, and the county where the Chico nursery is. Fred and Lois have a lot in Shelter Cove in Humbolt county that they are willing to donate to the Green Party. We need to research building something there. We need a new Regional Coordinating Council member. Jim S. is planning to move out of the county. Cindy Asrir is still here, but has stopped coming. We need a new person. Anybody interested? Mike Feinstein said we should abandon GPUS. He is still on a lot of GPUS committees. We need to get people to think about being on this. We just reorganized with a view to having 24 members, but we are down to about 8. Dana said 8 is an optimal number for getting things done. TABLING Junior State--November 20, 1:15-4:15 Caroline will take the stuff over. Drew and Tian have volunteered. We also have a high school girl to help Cameron says we should go early to get a good place. Holiday Peace Fair--December 4, 10:00-4:00 Caroline and Cameron going to planning meeting. Caroline is taking the stuff. Drew will help set up. Cameron is having his own table, and Drew will be working with him. Merriam will be there noon to 4:00. Tian wil help with clean-up and put the stuff in Merriam's car. We could sure use more people. HOLIDAY PARTY We will have a party in lieu of a business meeting in December. It will be at Fred's clubhouse on THURSDAY, December 2. We will be inviting San Mateo to come, too. Please come. It's a potluck. PRIORITIES We need to get people to register Green. We can get the "Save the Trees" thing and the "Recycle CD's and DVD's" thing going, have tables at Farmer's Markets to educate people, and register them at the same time. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamboi at rachel.greens.org Tue Nov 16 14:25:56 2010 From: jamboi at rachel.greens.org (jamboi at rachel.greens.org) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:25:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ubuntu Hour Th 18th, 7-8pm, Red Rock Coffee in MV; GreenTu Message-ID: <58808.98.234.185.152.1289946356.squirrel@greens.org> Howdy all, Ubunutu (pronounced like oo-boon-too), is an absolutely free alternative operating system for your PC or Mac. Surf the web, read email, create documents, edit documents and choose from thousands of free applications. Ubuntu is fast, easy and best of its 100% free! The second of this month's opportunities for people to come and learn more about Ubuntu: 'Ubuntu Hour' events. Ubuntu Hour is a casual social event at a cafe where Ubuntu OS fans can hang out, discuss and get help with Ubuntu. All are welcome! These are put on by the volunteer Ubuntu California Local Community Team, which i'm a member of and which is a group with some similar values as the Green Party so i hope we can make some good connections here: Ubuntu Hour/Silicon Valley #3 in Mountain View where we did #1 * Date: Thursday: November 18, 2010 Time: 7ish-8pmish Red Rock Coffee: 2nd floor 201 Castro St. Mountain View, CA 94041 (650) 967-4473 Details and RXVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/550/detail/, A few blocks from Caltrain, VTA bus and light rail. They have sandwiches, free wifi and coffee shop type drinks. GreenTu is a cooperative i've founded along with some other Greens that is helping people to use Ubuntu and other FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) to make their computing effective and fun. FLOSS equips people with free/affordable and appropriate technology and is especially tailor made for empowering Green activists. If you are interested in being a part of GreenTu or getting some computer help or training from GreenTu please feel free to contact me and leave a message at 408-520-1652. Drew Johnson GreenTu e-mail address: nUboon2Age at gmail.com Voice mail: 408-520-1652 From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Nov 16 14:47:12 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:47:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notes from General Meeting--December Party! Message-ID: <317751.87916.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ? ? November 3, 2010 General Meeting Present: Dana, Fred, Drew, Cameron, Jim S., Warner, Tian, Gerry, Caroline, Merriam Facilitator: Jim S. Note Taker: Caroline Timekeeper: Tian Vibes Watchers: Fred and Dana Agenda Preparer for next meeting (January): Warner Announcements: Fred: people should see "South of the Border" Tian: A Green got on the Bart board. Several people are on boards of supervisors Fred: Ben Mansky got 30% or so in his bid Cameron: he is doing a table of software at the Peace Fair, separate from the Green table. Drew will help him Election results: One of our candidates for state senator did very well. We need to find an issue we can get behind and make a lot of noise about, for example, corporate personhood or a new state constitution. Merriam said there is an issue that is environmental. We had several state nurseries to grow trees to replace those lost in fires, among other things. The last one of these, in Chico, is set to be closed down soon. CAlFire was in charge of this. We had very few fires this year. Why don't we have the money to keep this going? Private nurseries can't provide the right plants. Caroline will ask her daughter who works for Fish and Game to get more inside info on this situation. Merriam suggested that she, Dana, and Tian take on the project and get in touch with Canopy, Acterra, Wendee Crowfoot, and the county where the Chico nursery is. Fred and Lois have a lot in Shelter Cove in Humbolt county that they are willing to donate to the Green Party. We need to research building something there. We need a new Regional Coordinating Council member. Jim S. is planning to move out of the county. Cindy Asrir is still here, but has stopped coming. We need a new person. Anybody interested? Mike Feinstein said we should abandon GPUS. He is still on a lot of GPUS committees. We need to get people to think about being on this. We just reorganized with a view to having 24 members, but we are down to about 8. Dana said 8 is an optimal number for getting things done. TABLING Junior State--November 20, 1:15-4:15 Caroline will take the stuff over. Drew and Tian have volunteered. We also have a high school girl to help Cameron says we should go early to get a good place. Holiday Peace Fair--December 4, 10:00-4:00 Caroline and Cameron going to planning meeting. Caroline is taking the stuff. Drew will help set up. Cameron is having his own table, and Drew will be working with him. Merriam will be there noon to 4:00. Tian wil help with clean-up and put the stuff in Merriam's car. We could sure use more people. HOLIDAY PARTY We will have a party in lieu of a business meeting in December. It will be at Fred's clubhouse on THURSDAY, December 2. We will be inviting San Mateo to come, too. Please come. It's a potluck. PRIORITIES We need to get people to register Green. We can get the "Save the Trees" thing and the "Recycle CD's and DVD's" thing going, have tables at Farmer's Markets to educate people, and register them at the same time. Other places to approach people for registration might be the Social Secrity office, one-stop social service places, and downtown Mt. View on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights. We should have a regular vigil. Perhaps a JOBS vigil, and march down Castro St. Tian suggested we make a "Thank you" plaque for Laura Wells. Caroline said we should thank all of the candidates. We should let Laura know we are ready to help her. We have to do fund raising. Laura needs a campaign? committee. If the independent parties are to survive at all, we need to band together to fight Prop. 14 and have it declared unconstitutional. Warner says there doesn't seem to be a legal attack going. It could take four years. ? Redistricting has to occur in 2011. We should find a place where we would have a good chance of winning and get a candidate going early. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Tue Nov 16 15:37:57 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:37:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notes from General Meeting--December Party! Message-ID: <20101116233757.09C636A98F@truffula.sj.ca.us> I didn't want to interrupt the meeting for this, but how does one "recycle" CDs and DVDs? CDs are made of polycarbonate, with a layer of aluminum so thin it's not worth recovering but thick enough to contaminate the stock. DVDs the same except there's some organic dye instead of Al. I can see burning them for fuel, or melting them into picnic tables, but I never heard of polycarbonate recycling. It's the "#7" plastic, and San Jose takes #1 through #6 curbside. -Cameron From jims at greens.org Tue Nov 16 18:48:55 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 18:48:55 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notes from General Meeting--December Party! In-Reply-To: <20101116233757.09C636A98F@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20101116233757.09C636A98F@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <4CE34297.4020002@greens.org> That wasn't suppose to be "recycle." CDs and DVDs are suppose to be disposed as hazardous waste. We would provide the service of taking them to the county hazardous disposal site, thereby precluding people from throwing them in the garbage. Jim On 11/16/2010 3:37 PM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > > I didn't want to interrupt the meeting for this, but > how does one "recycle" CDs and DVDs? CDs are made of > polycarbonate, with a layer of aluminum so thin it's > not worth recovering but thick enough to contaminate > the stock. DVDs the same except there's some > organic dye instead of Al. I can see burning them > for fuel, or melting them into picnic tables, but I never > heard of polycarbonate recycling. It's the "#7" plastic, > and San Jose takes #1 through #6 curbside. > > -Cameron > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 17 11:20:28 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:20:28 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] HUAC Success Story Message-ID: <4CE42AFC.80100@earthlink.net> FYI, I find this story interesting because it argues that the HUAC (House Unamerican Activities Committee) was more successful than I ever knew. "The Origin of America?s Intellectual Vacuum" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/11/15-1 Gerry From vdf at juno.com Wed Nov 17 16:38:49 2010 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 00:38:49 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 2 bundles of Green Focus: donation? Message-ID: <20101117.163849.12668.0@webmail23.vgs.untd.com> Hi everyone, I'm going to pick up the two bundles of the Green Focus that our county had been planning to get from Barry Hermanson in San Francisco tomorrow. Barry says that since the election is over payment is not required (per the state Coordinating Committee), but if we want to make any sort of donation it would be gratefully accepted. Would we like to make a donation to GPCA for the two bundles of Green Focus? (I will definitely make a donation of my own.) Just how did I get involved in this, anyhow? I was at Caroline's place last week putting together a tabling kit, and as we were going through materials the subject of the Green Focus issues came up. We thought that it would be nice to have copies of the latest issue at Junior State and the Peace Fair, even though the election is over, because that way we have something that shows current Green Party activity (not just news from a couple of years ago), and we can show people what Green candidates stand for. Since I'm not working right now I said I'd look into what was going on. Tian put me in touch with Barry Hermanson. Barry had been intending to recycle the bundles of Green Focus because the election is over. He checked with the Coordinating Committee and they said that payment would not be required. What do people think? Do we want to make a donation? Respectfully, Valerie Face Santa Clara "When the last individual of a race of living things breathes no more, another Heaven and another Earth must pass before such a one can be again." -- William Beebe (1877-1962) ____________________________________________________________ $350,000 Life Insurance Coverage as low as $13.04/month. Free, No Obligation Quotes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ce4759f63bd73480bfst01vuc From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Nov 17 18:44:37 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:44:37 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama to Award Bush Medal of Freedom Message-ID: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/17/2010-11-17_president_obama_to_award_george_w_bush_the_presidential_medal_of_freedom_.html I am so glad I voted for McKinney! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 17 19:11:12 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:11:12 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama to Award Bush Medal of Freedom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CE49950.8010605@earthlink.net> well, at least it is for the father (Bush I), not the son (Bush II). Gerry Brian Good wrote: > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/17/2010-11-17_president_obama_to_award_george_w_bush_the_presidential_medal_of_freedom_.html > > > > I am so glad I voted for McKinney! > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Nov 17 19:30:14 2010 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:30:14 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama to Award Bush Medal of Freedom In-Reply-To: <4CE49950.8010605@earthlink.net> References: , <4CE49950.8010605@earthlink.net> Message-ID: My mistake. I should have noticed the NY Daily News headline and caption and picture did not match the text. Pretty sloppy, huh? > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:11:12 -0800 > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net > To: snug.bug at hotmail.com > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Obama to Award Bush Medal of Freedom > > > well, at least it is for the father (Bush I), > not the son (Bush II). > > Gerry > > > Brian Good wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/17/2010-11-17_president_obama_to_award_george_w_bush_the_presidential_medal_of_freedom_.html > > > > > > > > I am so glad I voted for McKinney! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Valerie said the guy who had them had more and would give them to people who came for them.He had been going to recycle them, but we alerted him to the fact that, just because the election is over, it doesn't mean that the most recent paper isn't a useful tabling item Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamboi at greens.org Fri Nov 19 14:38:10 2010 From: jamboi at greens.org (jamboi) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:38:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] BBQ, Sat. aft/eve.: BBQ, Pool Party, casual talk re: Creative Commons and The Open Source Way Message-ID: <45610.69.236.172.187.1290206290.squirrel@www.greens.org> Barbecue, Pool Party, Creative Commons, and Open Source Way Time: Saturday, November 20 ? 3:00pm - 9:00pm Location: Aaditya "dragon" Bhatia place 550 Moreland Way; Santa Clara, CA Created By Gidget Kitchen - Community Technology Center of California - GKgives, Aaditya Bhatia More Info 3:00pm - Doors open, Appetizer BBQ, Pool Party 6:00pm - Technical discussions begin officially 7:00pm - Dinner (INDIAN FOOD!) Vegetarian potluck-style barbecue with a bunch of geeks. There will be lightweight technical discussions, but nothing that'll keep the non-techies from participating and partying. Pool party includes a swimming pool with two spas, and a pool table. We plan on talking briefly about Creative Commons and how to use it more. Also some time will be spent on the "Open Source Way". ===== These are some of the same folks that i've been doing the "Ubuntu Hour" events with. They are very friendly and generally quite progressive (if tech-oriented). Come check it out! Green is now! Drew jamboi at greens.org I'm going to try and make From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Nov 21 21:22:27 2010 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:22:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Peace and Justice craft fair Dec 4 Message-ID: <20101122052227.505926A98F@truffula.sj.ca.us> Don't forget. Have dessert for breakfast and shop for holiday gifts from your fellow progressive orgs. I'll have wares for whoever takes care of your PC. -Cameron From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 22 10:37:42 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 10:37:42 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] more high school volunteers Message-ID: <4CEAB876.9050802@sbcglobal.net> This came in this morning's email (Monday 11-22-2010) It is time for our quick response team to present these volunteers with a hopefully suitable project. My initial suggestions are below. Jim Doyle Hi Jim, My name is Stephanie Fukawa and I am currently a Senior at Presentation High School and am currently enrolled in Civics class. For our end of the semester project, it is necessary for us to be engaged in the political process by volunteering for a group or organization for 3 hours. I was researching and I found out that The Green Party of Santa Clara County is looking for volunteers and I subsequently found your contact i nformation. I was wondering if myself, and two other students in my class could volunteer sometime soon (before November 30) for 3 hours. If we can, please let me know what that volunteering would entail and how many hours we could provide. We are very excited to be working with the Green Party! I look forward to hearing from you soon! Sincerely, Stephanie Fukawa Here are my suggestions, ones that came to mind immediately: Anti war peace signs at busy intersections. Research at Registrar of Voters. (This from Jim Stauffer -) Research efficacy of IRV in Oakland. Although pst their deadline, table at the Holiday Peace Fair. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Nov 22 16:11:27 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:11:27 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] volunteer(s) Message-ID: <4CEB06AF.5040309@sbcglobal.net> Hi Jim, Thank you for your email. I will check with the other students to see if that date works for them. If not, is there a way that we can create or pass out flyers for you before the December 4th date? We would love to help you out in any possible way! Sincerely, Stephanie Fukawa ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Jim Doyle [mailto:j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Mon 11/22/2010 11:07 AM *To:* Fukawa, Stephanie *Subject:* Re: Volunteering Hello Stephanie, I have your email. Yes, we welcome volunteers. Our next best project is scheduled for Saturday December 4-th, which is tabling at the Holiday Peace Fair in Campbell. Can you or your friends get your project done in time if you table with us on Saturday December 4-th? Jim Doyle From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Nov 22 18:20:35 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:20:35 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Please post ASAP!: Information about KPFA layoffs Message-ID: <4CEB24F3.5000400@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Please post ASAP!: Information about KPFA layoffs Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:33:21 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Jan To: blkcloud at sonic.net, whastings at earthlink.net, marnie at greenchange.org, timlaidman at yahoo.com, sanda at greens.org, jmc at sfgreens.org, erikasf at aol.com, susan_e_vaughan at yahoo.com, selizabethvaughan at gmail.com, danasg at greens.org, gerrygras at earthlink.net, bill at iiipublishing.com, civillib at comcast.net, scofield at omsoft.com, nate136_66 at yahoo.com Hi Greens!, You may have heard about the current controversy regarding layoffs at KPFA / KFCF. Our County Council wanted to make sure that all Greens interested in the situation heard "the other side of the story", so we are requesting that you please forward the message below from us (ASAP) to the various Green listserves and e-mail lists in your county! (Please reply back to me, or "blind cc" me when you send out your message -- so I know that you have received this message!). Thank you!, Greg (510-444-7336) [[ Subject line: Information about KPFA layoffs ]] Dear Fellow Greens, As many of you are probably aware, there is an ongoing controversy about layoffs at KPFA. The hosts of some of the shows are telling the listeners to go to KPFAworker.org to get information about this crisis. That website, however, is putting out only one side of the story. In an effort to make sure that Greens know about the other side of the story too - about alternative opinions that are not being broadcast on KPFA - we have listed below some sources for that information. One site that posts both sides of these issues is: www.indybay.org/indymedia Following are some recent posts that give alternative views to what is posted on KPFAworker.org. Repost of Carol Spooner's SF Bay View article, 'What's Happening at KPFA' http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/11/15/18664218.php Respost of Akio Tanaka's Berkeley Daily Planet Commentary, 'It's time for all of us to truly save KPFA' http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/11/12/18664050.php Tracy Rosenberg's Media Alliance Press Release with Marc Sapir's comments: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/11/09/18663677.php The existence of KPFA is critical to us all. We urge you to continue to do what you can to support KPFA financially during this struggle as free speech can only be truly exercised by those who are fiscally independent. We must end the power that corporate money has over our lives, our environment and our elections, and it is corporate free media that is the pathway to these goals. Although there is internal strife within the KPFA community, we need to bridge the divide and all work together to strengthen the station so that it can continue as a healthy, vibrant, and fertile ground for information and inquiry, and to empower those who are in a position to provide all of us with the programming we so depend upon to be the informed citizens that are the hope of a decent society. Best regards, The Green Party of Alameda County From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Nov 22 18:39:54 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 18:39:54 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Take Your Money and Run!" Message-ID: <4CEB297A.5050108@earthlink.net> About a planned action to remove money from banks on Dec. 7. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/11/22-11 Gerry From wrolley at charter.net Mon Nov 22 20:10:07 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:10:07 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: The Price of Change Message-ID: <4CEB3E9F.4030209@charter.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: The Price of Change Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:15:10 -0500 From: James Hansen Reply-To: James Hansen To: Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. From the Desk of Dr. James E. Hansen The Price of Change An op-ed on the potential of Chinese leadership to save the planetcan be found here . Unsubscribe wrolley at charter.net from this list | Forward to a friend | Update your profile Dr. James E. Hansen http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:04:57 EST From: DontBeFuelish at aol.com To: tnharter at aceweb.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koETnR0NgLY The conspiracy theorist in me loves the fact that PEAK OIL IS HERE appears once briefly and only on the right side of the screen. Tian If AOL wasn't too cheap to keep their password changing tool working the icon associated with SF's Halloween critical mass ride would be on a West Virginia quarter & a password connected with it would include "WV". -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added a picture of ballot access stories from the SJMN. The manga video pin I got in '04 is on a Kansas quarter right now. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Nov 23 20:55:48 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:55:48 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Take Your Money and Run!" In-Reply-To: <4CEB297A.5050108@earthlink.net> References: <4CEB297A.5050108@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4CEC9AD4.5040006@prodsyse.com> How can one easily get a list of strictly local banks or credit unions, then decide which one to transfer to? I did some study of this issue earlier this year, but I never quite made the transition from the macroeconomics to the question of how to find the information needed on local alternatives to make a decision. I got a suggestions about specific alternatives that a couple of Green party members liked, but I was looking for a step by step process for how to find and evaluate local alternatives. And I'm embarrassed to admit I've misplaced the suggestions I received about local alternatives that people use. Thanks, Spencer On 11/22/2010 6:39 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > About a planned action to remove money from banks on > Dec. 7. > > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/11/22-11 > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From wrolley at charter.net Wed Nov 24 09:10:44 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:10:44 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Toxic silicon valley Message-ID: <4CED4714.2070906@charter.net> There was a time when this list had regular updates about the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition http://www.svtc.org/. At that time, we had an activist working there. That has long gone away. I would like to call attention to a new report just released by the State Water Resources Control Board. http://californiawatch.org/watchblog/surface-waters-toxic-scientists-say-6935 According to scientists who have been monitoring and collecting data on the state's water quality for the past 10 years, California's surface waters are in bad shape. Might it not be worth our spending some time going further into this issue and defining a local position? Think about this. The California Water Wars are ongoing. No peace treaty is even being drafted. The heavy money has even dropped out of the Bay Delta Conservation Plan effort and wants to continue running selenium poisoned agricultural runoff into the Delta from which our water district pumps a large amount of our water. http://aquafornia.com/archives/35964 Read Green Lloyd G. Carter's Chronicles of the Hydraulic Brotherhood for more on this issue while you think about that fact that this is not just a Central Valley problem It is our water too. http://www.lloydgcarter.com/content/101123448_the-westlands-water-district-has-come-out-against-bay-delta-conservation-plan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 24 10:21:30 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 10:21:30 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "In Canada It's a Gov't Versus Its People on Climate Change" Message-ID: <4CED57AA.30006@earthlink.net> According to one climate scientists, this is an unprecedented abuse of Canadian Senatorial power. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/11/19-2 Gerry P.S. Why does this news come out on a particularly cold day? From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 24 12:25:53 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:25:53 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [South Bay Cycling] Study of health benefits of cycling Message-ID: <4CED74D1.5080906@earthlink.net> FYI, From the SVBC list Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [South Bay Cycling] Study of health benefits of cycling Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:53:21 -0800 Do the Health Benefits of Cycling Outweigh the Risks? Johan de Hartog J, Boogaard H, Nijland H, Hoek G, 2010 Do the Health Benefits of Cycling Outweigh the Risks?. Environ Health Perspect 118 (8): doi:10.1289/ehp.0901747 http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1289%2Fehp.0901747 Do the Health Benefits of Cycling Outweigh the Risks? Article Jump to Abstract Editor's Summary Materials and Methods Air Pollution Exposures and Health Effects Accidents Physical Activity Comparison of Life Years Gained or Lost Overall Discussion Conclusions Supplemental Material References Jeroen Johan de Hartog1, Hanna Boogaard1, Hans Nijland2, Gerard Hoek1 1 University of Utrecht, Institute for Risk Assessment Sciences, Utrecht, the Netherlands, 2 Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency, Bilthoven, the Netherlands Abstract Top Background: Although from a societal point of view a modal shift from car to bicycle may have beneficial health effects due to decreased air pollution emissions, decreased greenhouse gas emissions, and increased levels of physical activity, shifts in individual adverse health effects such as higher exposure to air pollution and risk of a traffic accident may prevail. Objective: We describe whether the health benefits from the increased physical activity of a modal shift for urban commutes outweigh the health risks. Data sources and extraction: We have summarized the literature for air pollution, traffic accidents, and physical activity using systematic reviews supplemented with recent key studies. Data synthesis: We quantified the impact on all-cause mortality when 500,000 people would make a transition from car to bicycle for short trips on a daily basis in the Netherlands. We have expressed mortality impacts in life-years gained or lost, using life table calculations. For individuals who shift from car to bicycle, we estimated that beneficial effects of increased physical activity are substantially larger (3?14 months gained) than the potential mortality effect of increased inhaled air pollution doses (0.8?40 days lost) and the increase in traffic accidents (5?9 days lost). Societal benefits are even larger because of a modest reduction in air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions and traffic accidents. Conclusions: On average, the estimated health benefits of cycling were substantially larger than the risks relative to car driving for individuals shifting their mode of transport. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Nov 23 13:46:28 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:46:28 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] need suggestions In-Reply-To: <4CEC1DFD.6080304@sbcglobal.net> References: <4CEC1DFD.6080304@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4CEC3634.8020800@prodsyse.com> Dear Jim, et al.: For content, what about instant runoff / rank choice voting and the example of the Mayoral race in Oakland? It's virtually certain that both of the two major parties want this example to be suppressed and forgotten -- as do the big money interests and their lackeys in the commercial media, who don't want an active and informed citizenry. I believe most citizens would support it, because most people honestly believe in democracy. (For some, they don't believe in democracy when their side wins.) I could help make a trifold as I did for Prop 14, but I'd need help -- and we can't haggle over the verbiage for a month and have anything in time for Nov. 30. An alternative idea is abusive banking. The current threats to the economy of Ireland, Portugal, Spain, and Italy all suggest that the major banks and speculators are too big and too poorly controlled. I also heard that after these latest elections, Republican leaders announced that top of their agenda was even more welfare for major banks. Attached is a plot of profits in the finance industry, which took a major jump after the repeal of Glass-Stiegel in 1999 and has since operated mostly between 30 and 40 percent of total US domestic corporate profits. (See other comments below.) Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer ############################# The attached Excel file plots the profits in the finance industry (banks, securities, insurance) as a percent of total domestic corporate profits: This shows profits in finance starting at 15 percent of total corporate profits in 1928, dropping to 5 percent one year during World War II, and gradually drifting up but still around 15 percent during the Reagan years, then climbing to 25 percent during the Clinton years, then jumping to a new level after the repeal of Glass-Stiegel to operate between 30 and 40 percent for most of the past decade. I'm embarrassed to admit that my wife and I still bank with Wells Fargo, primarily because it takes time to find a good local alternative and work through the details of doing our "due diligence" and then actually making the transfer. ############################## On 11/23/2010 12:03 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Help, help, > I need suggestions for tasks for high school volunteers. > > I sent them an email asking if their November 30 date > was solid. The first response was we will talk it over (my phrasing.) > > Do you have some suggestions for leafletting - > 1) content > 2) where to distribute > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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I believe most citizens would support it, because most people honestly believe in democracy. (For some, they don't believe in democracy when their side wins.) I could help make a trifold as I did for Prop 14, but I'd need help -- and we can't haggle over the verbiage for a month and have anything in time for Nov. 30. An alternative idea is abusive banking. The current threats to the economy of Ireland, Portugal, Spain, and Italy all suggest that the major banks and speculators are too big and too poorly controlled. I also heard that after these latest elections, Republican leaders announced that top of their agenda was even more welfare for major banks. Attached is a plot of profits in the finance industry, which took a major jump after the repeal of Glass-Stiegel in 1999 and has since operated mostly between 30 and 40 percent of total US domestic corporate profits. (See other comments below.) Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer ############################# The attached Excel file plots the profits in the finance industry (banks, securities, insurance) as a percent of total domestic corporate profits: This shows profits in finance starting at 15 percent of total corporate profits in 1928, dropping to 5 percent one year during World War II, and gradually drifting up but still around 15 percent during the Reagan years, then climbing to 25 percent during the Clinton years, then jumping to a new level after the repeal of Glass-Stiegel to operate between 30 and 40 percent for most of the past decade. I'm embarrassed to admit that my wife and I still bank with Wells Fargo, primarily because it takes time to find a good local alternative and work through the details of doing our "due diligence" and then actually making the transfer. ############################## On 11/23/2010 12:03 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Help, help, > I need suggestions for tasks for high school volunteers. > > I sent them an email asking if their November 30 date > was solid. The first response was we will talk it over (my phrasing.) > > Do you have some suggestions for leafletting - > 1) content > 2) where to distribute > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Profits by sector-annual-NIPAtables4.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 62976 bytes Desc: not available URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 24 20:38:16 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:38:16 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions Message-ID: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. Caroline named the places: outside of banks. And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. I have not received a response from the high school senior from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - was she would talk it over with her friends. And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one that was given to us and is now in her garage. Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? Jim Doyle From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Nov 25 08:43:36 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:43:36 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions In-Reply-To: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, something like the following: *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to move very fast with this. HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in Europe and elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to destabilize the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us poorer, consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and loans or banks. *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, addresses, web sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment policies and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" and similar abusive practices. *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure that the financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been involved in the most egregious, abusive practices. ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at taxpayer expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the plot I previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as a percent of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent historically to between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the media, e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the media is equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that feeds them. Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when advertisers decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing that is by getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the public believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the Herman and Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia articles on media bias. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer ####################################### On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. > Caroline named the places: outside of banks. > And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. > > I have not received a response from the high school senior > from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - > was she would talk it over with her friends. > > And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one > that was given to us and is now in her garage. > > Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? > > Jim Doyle > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From jamboi at greens.org Thu Nov 25 19:22:11 2010 From: jamboi at greens.org (jamboi) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:22:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Happy International Buy Nothing Day Message-ID: <35142.69.236.172.187.1290741731.squirrel@greens.org> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buy_Nothing_Day http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=104195596316003 "Buy Nothing Day is your special day to unshop, unspend and unwind. Relax and do nothing for the economy and for yourself - at least for a single day." http://www.buynothingday.org/ "A few people start breaking their old patterns, embracing what they love (and in the process discovering what they hate), daydreaming, questioning, rebelling. What happens naturally then, according to the revolutionary past, is a groundswell of support for this new way of being, with more and more people empowered to perform new gestures unencumbered by history. Think of it as an adventure, as therapy ? a week of pieing and pranks, of talking back at your profs and speaking truth to power. Some of us will put up posters in our schools and neighborhoods and just break our daily routines for a week. Others will chant, spark mayhem in big box stores and provoke mass cognitive dissonance. Others still will engage in the most visceral kind of civil disobedience. And on November 26 from sunrise to sunset we will abstain en masse ? not only from holiday shopping, but from all the temptations of our five-planet lifestyles." http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Nov 26 00:54:43 2010 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 00:54:43 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] UNEP Report Message-ID: <4CEF75D3.8080605@earthlink.net> "UN Issues Severe Climate Warning Ahead of Summit" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/11/24-5 Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Nov 26 07:00:41 2010 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:00:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions In-Reply-To: <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could maybe spend some time at the? potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who wanted to stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. Caroline ________________________________ From: spencerg To: Jim Doyle Cc: sosfbay discussion group ; Betsy Wolf-Graves Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, something like the following: *** NOTE:? If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to move very fast with this. HEADLINE:? Dec. 7:? International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in Europe and elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE:? If you don't like your money being used to destabilize the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us poorer, consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and loans or banks. *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, addresses, web sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment policies and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" and similar abusive practices. *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. *** NEEDED:? I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure that the financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been involved in the most egregious, abusive practices. ADDITIONAL CONTENT:? Then we could say something about the repeal of Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at taxpayer expense to the financial industry.? This should include, I think, the plot I previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as a percent of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent historically to between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of Glass-Stiegel.? We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the media, e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the media is equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that feeds them.? Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when advertisers decrease their advertising.? The only way the media can survive doing that is by getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the public believes the media have a liberal bias.? Then briefly describe the Herman and Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia articles on media bias. ? ? ? Comments? ? ? ? Best Wishes, ? ? ? Spencer ####################################### On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. > Caroline named the places: outside of banks. > And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. > > I have not received a response from the high school senior > from presentation high school as yet.? Her last email - on Monday - > was she would talk it over with her friends. > > And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one > that was given to us and is now in her garage. > > Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? > > Jim Doyle > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Nov 26 08:00:27 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 08:00:27 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions In-Reply-To: <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4CEFD99B.2050405@prodsyse.com> What time is the pot luck, Thursday, Dec. 2? I've only seen a date and "Fred's Clubhouse", but not a street address, etc. Spencer On 11/26/2010 7:00 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could maybe > spend some time at the potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who wanted to > stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. > Caroline > > > > > ________________________________ > From: spencerg > To: Jim Doyle > Cc: sosfbay discussion group; Betsy Wolf-Graves > > Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions > > Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) > > > What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, something like > the following: > > > *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to move very > fast with this. > > > HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) > > (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in Europe and > elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. > > > INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to destabilize > the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us poorer, > consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and loans or > banks. > > > *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, addresses, web > sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment policies > and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" and > similar abusive practices. > > > *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. > > > *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure that the > financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been involved > in the most egregious, abusive practices. > > > ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of > Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at taxpayer > expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the plot I > previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as a percent > of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent historically to > between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of > Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the media, > e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the media is > equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that feeds them. > Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when advertisers > decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing that is by > getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the public > believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the Herman and > Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia articles on > media bias. > > > Comments? > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > > ####################################### > > On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. >> Caroline named the places: outside of banks. >> And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. >> >> I have not received a response from the high school senior >> from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - >> was she would talk it over with her friends. >> >> And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one >> that was given to us and is now in her garage. >> >> Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? >> >> Jim Doyle >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From jamboi at greens.org Fri Nov 26 14:51:12 2010 From: jamboi at greens.org (jamboi) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:51:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Pot Luck -- we need to announce to San Mateo! In-Reply-To: <4CEFD99B.2050405@prodsyse.com> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4CEFD99B.2050405@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <48340.98.234.185.152.1290811872.squirrel@greens.org> Yes, and as a matter of fact, we talked to a San Mateo Green at Junior States who hadn't heard of the event yet, so we need to post the info and get it out to San Mateo and everyone else. Green is Connection! Drew > What time is the pot luck, Thursday, Dec. 2? I've only seen a date and > "Fred's Clubhouse", but not a street address, etc. > > > Spencer > > > On 11/26/2010 7:00 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could >> maybe >> spend some time at the potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who >> wanted to >> stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. >> Caroline >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: spencerg >> To: Jim Doyle >> Cc: sosfbay discussion group; Betsy >> Wolf-Graves >> >> Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions >> >> Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) >> >> >> What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, >> something like >> the following: >> >> >> *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to move >> very >> fast with this. >> >> >> HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) >> >> (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in >> Europe and >> elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. >> >> >> INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to >> destabilize >> the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us >> poorer, >> consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and >> loans or >> banks. >> >> >> *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, >> addresses, web >> sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment >> policies >> and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" >> and >> similar abusive practices. >> >> >> *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. >> >> >> *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure >> that the >> financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been >> involved >> in the most egregious, abusive practices. >> >> >> ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of >> Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at >> taxpayer >> expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the >> plot I >> previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as a >> percent >> of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent >> historically to >> between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of >> Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the >> media, >> e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the media >> is >> equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that feeds >> them. >> Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when >> advertisers >> decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing >> that is by >> getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the >> public >> believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the >> Herman and >> Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia >> articles on >> media bias. >> >> >> Comments? >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> >> ####################################### >> >> On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. >>> Caroline named the places: outside of banks. >>> And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. >>> >>> I have not received a response from the high school senior >>> from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - >>> was she would talk it over with her friends. >>> >>> And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one >>> that was given to us and is now in her garage. >>> >>> Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? >>> >>> Jim Doyle >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Operating Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Nov 26 15:48:41 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 15:48:41 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] YOUR EXPERIENCE with Credit Unions? --> for anti-bank brochure; text: Tu, Nov. 30; fold @ pot luck, Th., Dec. 2 In-Reply-To: <48340.98.234.185.152.1290811872.squirrel@greens.org> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4CEFD99B.2050405@prodsyse.com> <48340.98.234.185.152.1290811872.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <4CF04759.6060302@prodsyse.com> Hello: I'm drafting a tri-fold brochure to distributed around the Dec. 7 international bank rebellion day, and I could use help. A quick response would be appreciated so we can complete the text by next Tuesday, Nov. 30. 1. Where should people go to if they want to leave an abusive bank like Wells Fargo? 2. For people who want to change, what is a sensible process for selecting an alternative and then moving? 3. Where do you bank, i.e., have a checking account, etc., and what do you think about that organization? My wife and I have banked with Wells Fargo for almost 30 years. We decided almost a year ago we wanted to leave but haven't because we do not yet have an acceptable answer to questions 1 and 2 above. So far, I've tentatively decided to limit consideration to 10 credit unions with operations in and near San Jose. I'm focusing on credit unions, as they reportedly are cooperatives, officially owned by their members, presumably invest the money locally and do not engage in the kinds of speculative practiced that have manufactured the current "Great Recession", now now threatening the economic stability of Ireland and possibly, Portugal, Spain, Italy, and perhaps the entire Euro zone. However, I don't know how true any of this is. *** There are 8 credit unions in or near San Jose listed with "http://local.yahoo.com/CA/San+Jose/Legal+Financial+Services/Credit+Unions"; listed below. Some of these have customer reviews. However, there are so few reviews that I hesitate to give them too much weight. San Jose Credit Union (www.sjcu.org) Valley Credit Union (www.valleycu.org) Star One Credit Union (www.starone.org) Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union (www.sccfcu.org) Meriwest Credit Union (www.meriwest.com) Alliance Federal Credit Union (www.alliancecreditunion.org) Technology Credit Union (www.techcu.com) Commonwealth Central Credit Union (www.wealthcu.org) Thanks. More soon. Spencer ############################### subj: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Pot Luck -- we need to announce to San Mateo! On 11/26/2010 2:51 PM, jamboi wrote: > Yes, and as a matter of fact, we talked to a San Mateo Green at Junior > States who hadn't heard of the event yet, so we need to post the info and > get it out to San Mateo and everyone else. > > Green is Connection! > > Drew > >> What time is the pot luck, Thursday, Dec. 2? I've only seen a date and >> "Fred's Clubhouse", but not a street address, etc. >> >> >> Spencer >> >> >> On 11/26/2010 7:00 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >>> Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could >>> maybe >>> spend some time at the potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who >>> wanted to >>> stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. >>> Caroline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: spencerg >>> To: Jim Doyle >>> Cc: sosfbay discussion group; Betsy >>> Wolf-Graves >>> >>> Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions >>> >>> Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) >>> >>> >>> What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, >>> something like >>> the following: >>> >>> >>> *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to move >>> very >>> fast with this. >>> >>> >>> HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) >>> >>> (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in >>> Europe and >>> elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. >>> >>> >>> INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to >>> destabilize >>> the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us >>> poorer, >>> consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and >>> loans or >>> banks. >>> >>> >>> *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, >>> addresses, web >>> sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment >>> policies >>> and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" >>> and >>> similar abusive practices. >>> >>> >>> *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. >>> >>> >>> *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure >>> that the >>> financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been >>> involved >>> in the most egregious, abusive practices. >>> >>> >>> ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of >>> Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at >>> taxpayer >>> expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the >>> plot I >>> previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as a >>> percent >>> of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent >>> historically to >>> between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of >>> Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the >>> media, >>> e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the media >>> is >>> equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that feeds >>> them. >>> Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when >>> advertisers >>> decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing >>> that is by >>> getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the >>> public >>> believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the >>> Herman and >>> Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia >>> articles on >>> media bias. >>> >>> >>> Comments? >>> Best Wishes, >>> Spencer >>> >>> >>> ####################################### >>> >>> On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. >>>> Caroline named the places: outside of banks. >>>> And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. >>>> >>>> I have not received a response from the high school senior >>>> from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - >>>> was she would talk it over with her friends. >>>> >>>> And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one >>>> that was given to us and is now in her garage. >>>> >>>> Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? >>>> >>>> Jim Doyle >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Nov 26 17:48:20 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 17:48:20 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] YOUR EXPERIENCE with Credit Unions? --> for anti-bank brochure; text: Tu, Nov. 30; fold @ pot luck, Th., Dec. 2 In-Reply-To: <48340.98.234.185.152.1290811872.squirrel@greens.org> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4CEFD99B.2050405@prodsyse.com> <48340.98.234.185.152.1290811872.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <4CF06364.5000902@prodsyse.com> Hello: Below (and attached) please find a partial draft of a tri-fold with a tentative title of 'Just Say "No!" to Abusive Banks'. This currently occupies just over one side of a single 8.5 x 11 inch page. This means we can increase the volume by between 50 and 70 percent. We should all contact information for us, including a Green Party logo, I think, plus preferable more information on each of the 8 alternatives. I think I want to delete at least one, because their web site advertised 90 days without payments on a new loan -- as if consumers don't pay extra for that. This should probably mention the Dec. 7 Worldwide bank protest day; it currently doesn't. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer p.s. I need all comments by, e.g., next Tuesday. If we can't reach a consensus by then, we likely won't be able to do anything before the Dec. 7 worldwide bank protest day. ################################## Did senior banking executives earned their multimillion dollar bonuses this year? If you think so, we'd like to see your evidence. Unhappy with your bank? What about a credit union? Many have the same insurance and comparable ATM services as major banks, are member owned and invest locally, not trying to make the rich richer at the expense of the poor and middle class. If you are looking for a loan, especially a new mortgage, shop around. Do NOT let a mortgage broker to do that for you, as you will (eventually) pay the broker's fee. The financial industry in the US (banks, securities, insurance) "earned" 34% of total US domestic corporate profits over the past decade, up from 16% for 1934-1999 (see below). For the free market to work properly, consumers must have reasonable access to quality information about available alternatives. Some of the increase in profits in the financial sector come because consumers have no effective means of protecting their interests in this sector. Consequently, instead of innovating to provide better service to consumers, banks have innovated to maximize their profits at the expense of consumers, including colluding in setting credit card rates to harm consumers.1 This should be an antitrust violation, but most politicians are elected with massive contributions from big business, especially the major banks, and the commercial media would lose advertising revenue and therefore profitability if they exposed it.2 Process for changing a bank 1. Select an alternative (see below). 2. Open a new account. Ask for forms to facilitate the transfer. 3. Get checks, credit, debit, ATM cards for the new account. 4. Change direct deposits to go to the new account. 5. Submit a "Close and Transfer Letter" to close your old account and transfer remaining funds to the new account. Credit Unions in San Jose San Jose Credit Union (www.sjcu.org) Valley Credit Union (www.valleycu.org) Star One Credit Union (www.starone.org) Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union (www.sccfcu.org) Meriwest Credit Union (www.meriwest.com) Alliance Federal Credit Union (www.alliancecreditunion.org) Technology Credit Union (www.techcu.com) Commonwealth Central Credit Union (www.wealthcu.org) Finance as a Percent of US Domestic Corporate Profit 3 ############################### Hello: I'm drafting a tri-fold brochure to distributed around the Dec. 7 international bank rebellion day, and I could use help. A quick response would be appreciated so we can complete the text by next Tuesday, Nov. 30. 1. Where should people go to if they want to leave an abusive bank like Wells Fargo? 2. For people who want to change, what is a sensible process for selecting an alternative and then moving? 3. Where do you bank, i.e., have a checking account, etc., and what do you think about that organization? My wife and I have banked with Wells Fargo for almost 30 years. We decided almost a year ago we wanted to leave but haven't because we do not yet have an acceptable answer to questions 1 and 2 above. So far, I've tentatively decided to limit consideration to 10 credit unions with operations in and near San Jose. I'm focusing on credit unions, as they reportedly are cooperatives, officially owned by their members, presumably invest the money locally and do not engage in the kinds of speculative practiced that have manufactured the current "Great Recession", now now threatening the economic stability of Ireland and possibly, Portugal, Spain, Italy, and perhaps the entire Euro zone. However, I don't know how true any of this is. *** There are 8 credit unions in or near San Jose listed with "http://local.yahoo.com/CA/San+Jose/Legal+Financial+Services/Credit+Unions"; listed below. Some of these have customer reviews. However, there are so few reviews that I hesitate to give them too much weight. San Jose Credit Union (www.sjcu.org) Valley Credit Union (www.valleycu.org) Star One Credit Union (www.starone.org) Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union (www.sccfcu.org) Meriwest Credit Union (www.meriwest.com) Alliance Federal Credit Union (www.alliancecreditunion.org) Technology Credit Union (www.techcu.com) Commonwealth Central Credit Union (www.wealthcu.org) Thanks. More soon. Spencer ############################### subj: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Pot Luck -- we need to announce to San Mateo! On 11/26/2010 2:51 PM, jamboi wrote: > Yes, and as a matter of fact, we talked to a San Mateo Green at Junior > States who hadn't heard of the event yet, so we need to post the info and > get it out to San Mateo and everyone else. > > Green is Connection! > > Drew > >> What time is the pot luck, Thursday, Dec. 2? I've only seen a date and >> "Fred's Clubhouse", but not a street address, etc. >> >> >> Spencer >> >> >> On 11/26/2010 7:00 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >>> Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could >>> maybe >>> spend some time at the potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who >>> wanted to >>> stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. >>> Caroline >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: spencerg >>> To: Jim Doyle >>> Cc: sosfbay discussion group; Betsy >>> Wolf-Graves >>> >>> Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions >>> >>> Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) >>> >>> >>> What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, >>> something like >>> the following: >>> >>> >>> *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to move >>> very >>> fast with this. >>> >>> >>> HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) >>> >>> (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in >>> Europe and >>> elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. >>> >>> >>> INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to >>> destabilize >>> the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us >>> poorer, >>> consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and >>> loans or >>> banks. >>> >>> >>> *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, >>> addresses, web >>> sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment >>> policies >>> and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" >>> and >>> similar abusive practices. >>> >>> >>> *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. >>> >>> >>> *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure >>> that the >>> financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been >>> involved >>> in the most egregious, abusive practices. >>> >>> >>> ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of >>> Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at >>> taxpayer >>> expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the >>> plot I >>> previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as a >>> percent >>> of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent >>> historically to >>> between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of >>> Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the >>> media, >>> e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the media >>> is >>> equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that feeds >>> them. >>> Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when >>> advertisers >>> decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing >>> that is by >>> getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the >>> public >>> believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the >>> Herman and >>> Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia >>> articles on >>> media bias. >>> >>> >>> Comments? >>> Best Wishes, >>> Spencer >>> >>> >>> ####################################### >>> >>> On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. >>>> Caroline named the places: outside of banks. >>>> And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. >>>> >>>> I have not received a response from the high school senior >>>> from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - >>>> was she would talk it over with her friends. >>>> >>>> And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one >>>> that was given to us and is now in her garage. >>>> >>>> Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? >>>> >>>> Jim Doyle >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Drew > Hello: > > > I'm drafting a tri-fold brochure to distributed around the Dec. 7 > international bank rebellion day, and I could use help. A quick > response would be appreciated so we can complete the text by next > Tuesday, Nov. 30. > > > 1. Where should people go to if they want to leave an abusive > bank like Wells Fargo? > > > 2. For people who want to change, what is a sensible process for > selecting an alternative and then moving? > > > 3. Where do you bank, i.e., have a checking account, etc., and > what do you think about that organization? My wife and I have banked > with Wells Fargo for almost 30 years. We decided almost a year ago we > wanted to leave but haven't because we do not yet have an acceptable > answer to questions 1 and 2 above. So far, I've tentatively decided to > limit consideration to 10 credit unions with operations in and near San > Jose. I'm focusing on credit unions, as they reportedly are > cooperatives, officially owned by their members, presumably invest the > money locally and do not engage in the kinds of speculative practiced > that have manufactured the current "Great Recession", now now > threatening the economic stability of Ireland and possibly, Portugal, > Spain, Italy, and perhaps the entire Euro zone. However, I don't know > how true any of this is. > > > *** There are 8 credit unions in or near San Jose listed with > "http://local.yahoo.com/CA/San+Jose/Legal+Financial+Services/Credit+Unions"; > listed below. Some of these have customer reviews. However, there are > so few reviews that I hesitate to give them too much weight. > > > San Jose Credit Union (www.sjcu.org) > > > Valley Credit Union (www.valleycu.org) > > > Star One Credit Union (www.starone.org) > > > Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union (www.sccfcu.org) > > > Meriwest Credit Union (www.meriwest.com) > > > Alliance Federal Credit Union (www.alliancecreditunion.org) > > > Technology Credit Union (www.techcu.com) > > > Commonwealth Central Credit Union (www.wealthcu.org) > > > Thanks. More soon. > Spencer > > > ############################### > subj: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Pot Luck -- we need to announce to San > Mateo! > > On 11/26/2010 2:51 PM, jamboi wrote: >> Yes, and as a matter of fact, we talked to a San Mateo Green at Junior >> States who hadn't heard of the event yet, so we need to post the info >> and >> get it out to San Mateo and everyone else. >> >> Green is Connection! >> >> Drew >> >>> What time is the pot luck, Thursday, Dec. 2? I've only seen a date and >>> "Fred's Clubhouse", but not a street address, etc. >>> >>> >>> Spencer >>> >>> >>> On 11/26/2010 7:00 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >>>> Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could >>>> maybe >>>> spend some time at the potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who >>>> wanted to >>>> stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. >>>> Caroline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: spencerg >>>> To: Jim Doyle >>>> Cc: sosfbay discussion group; Betsy >>>> Wolf-Graves >>>> >>>> Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions >>>> >>>> Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) >>>> >>>> >>>> What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, >>>> something like >>>> the following: >>>> >>>> >>>> *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to >>>> move >>>> very >>>> fast with this. >>>> >>>> >>>> HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) >>>> >>>> (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in >>>> Europe and >>>> elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. >>>> >>>> >>>> INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to >>>> destabilize >>>> the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us >>>> poorer, >>>> consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and >>>> loans or >>>> banks. >>>> >>>> >>>> *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, >>>> addresses, web >>>> sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment >>>> policies >>>> and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" >>>> and >>>> similar abusive practices. >>>> >>>> >>>> *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. >>>> >>>> >>>> *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure >>>> that the >>>> financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been >>>> involved >>>> in the most egregious, abusive practices. >>>> >>>> >>>> ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of >>>> Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at >>>> taxpayer >>>> expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the >>>> plot I >>>> previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as >>>> a >>>> percent >>>> of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent >>>> historically to >>>> between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of >>>> Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the >>>> media, >>>> e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the >>>> media >>>> is >>>> equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that >>>> feeds >>>> them. >>>> Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when >>>> advertisers >>>> decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing >>>> that is by >>>> getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the >>>> public >>>> believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the >>>> Herman and >>>> Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia >>>> articles on >>>> media bias. >>>> >>>> >>>> Comments? >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> ####################################### >>>> >>>> On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>>> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. >>>>> Caroline named the places: outside of banks. >>>>> And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. >>>>> >>>>> I have not received a response from the high school senior >>>>> from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - >>>>> was she would talk it over with her friends. >>>>> >>>>> And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one >>>>> that was given to us and is now in her garage. >>>>> >>>>> Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? >>>>> >>>>> Jim Doyle >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>>> > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Operating Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Nov 27 05:59:42 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 05:59:42 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] YOUR EXPERIENCE with Credit Unions? --> for anti-bank brochure; text: Tu, Nov. 30; fold @ pot luck, Th., Dec. 2 In-Reply-To: <36470.98.234.185.152.1290842214.squirrel@greens.org> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4CEFD99B.2050405@prodsyse.com> <48340.98.234.185.152.1290811872.squirrel@greens.org> <4CF04759.6060302@prodsyse.com> <36470.98.234.185.152.1290842214.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <4CF10ECE.9030800@prodsyse.com> Hi, Drew: Thanks very much for your reply. I sent this email precisely to get input from people. May I ask you more about this? How much experience have you had with "www.meriwest.com"? What do you like about them? Have you had any negative experiences? What have you heard about them from others? Also, just to make sure I understand, what do you mean by, "Green is Collective!"? The Wikipedia entry on "Credit Union" gives me the impression that all credit unions are officially member / customer owned cooperatives and not-for-profit. However, in practice, I'm not sure what that means. In practice, I would expect that some of them might have been sucked into some of the negative practices like trying to steer customers into riskier loans because the credit union made more money from those or investing overseas in ways that manufacture the kind of financial instability that generated the current, "Great Recession". I want to avoid those if they exists, but I don't know how to get this kind of information. Meriwest (www.meriwest.com) was one of 8 credit unions I found with local branches at "http://local.yahoo.com/CA/San+Jose/Legal+Financial+Services/Credit+Unions ". This web site provided "Customer Ratings", but there were so few ratings, it's difficult to generalize. Meriwest appeared twice on this list: first with 2 customers with an average of 3 (out of 5) stars and then with 4 ratings of 1, averaging 1-2/3 stars over the 6 people. This makes Meriwest the worst among the 8, though there were so few ratings it does not make sense to give that analysis too much weight. Beyond that, I looked at the web site for advertisements of services inviting customers / members to do stupid things. I found Meriwest advertising "$25 statement credit". I don't know what that is, but it didn't sound responsible to me, so I counted that as a negative. Thanks again for your input. Best Wishes, Spencer On 11/26/2010 11:16 PM, jamboi wrote: > Note that any residents of Santa Clara County can join Meridian West > Credit Union: https://www.meriwest.com/ or > https://meriwestonline.meriwest.com > > Green is Collective! > > Drew > > >> Hello: >> >> >> I'm drafting a tri-fold brochure to distributed around the Dec. 7 >> international bank rebellion day, and I could use help. A quick >> response would be appreciated so we can complete the text by next >> Tuesday, Nov. 30. >> >> >> 1. Where should people go to if they want to leave an abusive >> bank like Wells Fargo? >> >> >> 2. For people who want to change, what is a sensible process for >> selecting an alternative and then moving? >> >> >> 3. Where do you bank, i.e., have a checking account, etc., and >> what do you think about that organization? My wife and I have banked >> with Wells Fargo for almost 30 years. We decided almost a year ago we >> wanted to leave but haven't because we do not yet have an acceptable >> answer to questions 1 and 2 above. So far, I've tentatively decided to >> limit consideration to 10 credit unions with operations in and near San >> Jose. I'm focusing on credit unions, as they reportedly are >> cooperatives, officially owned by their members, presumably invest the >> money locally and do not engage in the kinds of speculative practiced >> that have manufactured the current "Great Recession", now now >> threatening the economic stability of Ireland and possibly, Portugal, >> Spain, Italy, and perhaps the entire Euro zone. However, I don't know >> how true any of this is. >> >> >> *** There are 8 credit unions in or near San Jose listed with >> "http://local.yahoo.com/CA/San+Jose/Legal+Financial+Services/Credit+Unions"; >> listed below. Some of these have customer reviews. However, there are >> so few reviews that I hesitate to give them too much weight. >> >> >> San Jose Credit Union (www.sjcu.org) >> >> >> Valley Credit Union (www.valleycu.org) >> >> >> Star One Credit Union (www.starone.org) >> >> >> Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union (www.sccfcu.org) >> >> >> Meriwest Credit Union (www.meriwest.com) >> >> >> Alliance Federal Credit Union (www.alliancecreditunion.org) >> >> >> Technology Credit Union (www.techcu.com) >> >> >> Commonwealth Central Credit Union (www.wealthcu.org) >> >> >> Thanks. More soon. >> Spencer >> >> >> ############################### >> subj: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Pot Luck -- we need to announce to San >> Mateo! >> >> On 11/26/2010 2:51 PM, jamboi wrote: >>> Yes, and as a matter of fact, we talked to a San Mateo Green at Junior >>> States who hadn't heard of the event yet, so we need to post the info >>> and >>> get it out to San Mateo and everyone else. >>> >>> Green is Connection! >>> >>> Drew >>> >>>> What time is the pot luck, Thursday, Dec. 2? I've only seen a date and >>>> "Fred's Clubhouse", but not a street address, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/26/2010 7:00 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >>>>> Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could >>>>> maybe >>>>> spend some time at the potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who >>>>> wanted to >>>>> stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. >>>>> Caroline >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: spencerg >>>>> To: Jim Doyle >>>>> Cc: sosfbay discussion group; Betsy >>>>> Wolf-Graves >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions >>>>> >>>>> Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, >>>>> something like >>>>> the following: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to >>>>> move >>>>> very >>>>> fast with this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) >>>>> >>>>> (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in >>>>> Europe and >>>>> elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to >>>>> destabilize >>>>> the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us >>>>> poorer, >>>>> consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and >>>>> loans or >>>>> banks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, >>>>> addresses, web >>>>> sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment >>>>> policies >>>>> and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" >>>>> and >>>>> similar abusive practices. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure >>>>> that the >>>>> financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been >>>>> involved >>>>> in the most egregious, abusive practices. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of >>>>> Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at >>>>> taxpayer >>>>> expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the >>>>> plot I >>>>> previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as >>>>> a >>>>> percent >>>>> of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent >>>>> historically to >>>>> between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of >>>>> Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the >>>>> media, >>>>> e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the >>>>> media >>>>> is >>>>> equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that >>>>> feeds >>>>> them. >>>>> Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when >>>>> advertisers >>>>> decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing >>>>> that is by >>>>> getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the >>>>> public >>>>> believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the >>>>> Herman and >>>>> Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia >>>>> articles on >>>>> media bias. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Comments? >>>>> Best Wishes, >>>>> Spencer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ####################################### >>>>> >>>>> On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>>>> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. >>>>>> Caroline named the places: outside of banks. >>>>>> And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have not received a response from the high school senior >>>>>> from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - >>>>>> was she would talk it over with her friends. >>>>>> >>>>>> And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one >>>>>> that was given to us and is now in her garage. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Doyle >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>>>> > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Nov 27 11:51:48 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:51:48 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] credit unions Message-ID: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> re Spencer's list of credit unions in or near San Jose add Provident Credit Union http://www.providentcu.org/ which has offices in San Jose, Los Gatos, Sunnyvale, Palo Alto and more My wife and, as one with signature rights, I have been members of TechCU - which has had a name change or two, merely variations on Technology Federal Credit Union. My wife gets good service there. Jim Doyle From fredd at freeshell.org Sat Nov 27 11:55:35 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 11:55:35 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Thur., Dec. 2, Potluck Dinner Message-ID: <4CF16237.5040501@freeshell.org> November 26, 20010 Friends, YOU'RE INVITED to participate in the Santa Clara - San Mateo Counties' Green Party POTLUCK DINNER on Thursday, December 2 (5:30 pm), in the Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, located at the intersection of Moffett Blvd. and W. Middlefield Road, in Mountain View (500 W. Middlefield Rd. 94043). Please bring food items to enhance what is expected to be a "world class" gourmet Green Party feast. Beverages (Coffee, Tea, Lemonade and Aqua) as well plates, cups and plastic dinnerware will be provided.) We hope to see you there! The Ad Hoc Potluck Planning Committee P.S Families and friends are welcome. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Nov 27 12:32:45 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:32:45 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] credit unions In-Reply-To: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> References: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4CF16AED.4080502@prodsyse.com> Hi, Jim: Thanks. I'll add Provident to my list of locals. Anything else, e.g., what you like or don't of different credit unions, how should someone select one over another? Spencer On 11/27/2010 11:51 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > re Spencer's list of credit unions in or near San Jose > > add Provident Credit Union http://www.providentcu.org/ > > which has offices in San Jose, Los Gatos, Sunnyvale, Palo Alto and more > > My wife and, as one with signature rights, I have been members > of TechCU - which has had a name change or two, merely variations on > Technology Federal Credit Union. My wife gets good service there. > > Jim Doyle > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From wrolley at charter.net Sat Nov 27 14:24:12 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:24:12 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Green Talk Message-ID: <4CF1850C.5000505@charter.net> Column submitted today for Tuesday's Morgam Hill Times. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Green Talk. - Here it is Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:09:30 -0800 From: Wes Rolley To: robertairoldi at yahoo.com, rairoldi at morganhilltimes.com In my previous column, I asked our three mayoral candidates to answer a few questions regarding their attitudes about climate change. On the basis of those answers, I came to the conclusion that only one, Steve Tate, was perceptive enough to deserve my vote. Even if your reasons were not the same as mine, thankfully enough of you agreed on that choice to re-elect Mayor Tate. Yet, this goes against the prevailing voter response for most of America. In state after state, voters have elected champions of small government, free enterprise, reduced taxes and no regulation of business, backed by a loose coalition of organizations known collectively as the Tea Party. Almost universally, they echo the refrain that climate change is a hoax, isn't happening or could not possibly be caused by human activity. After all, we are too intelligent to do something like that... or are we? Maybe the most extreme is Illinois Representative John Shimkus. His position is one of Biblical faith holding fast to the promise of Exodus where God told Noah that he would not destroy the earth again. The Bible says nothing about God preventing man from doing the job himself. I would not be concerned about the Rep. Shimkus were it not for the fact that he could become the next Chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. If he gains that position, he will the ability to shape energy policies for all of us, determining which bills will come up for a vote and on what schedule. In that position, he would be dangerous. It would seem that all of the Tea Party is following the scientific thinking of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin, a trio of media personalities who will say anything to make sure that Obama will be a one term president. It has come to the point where Limbaugh has aimed his rant at Motor Trend Magazine for daring to name the Chevrolet Volt as their Car of the Year. Any deviation from the orthodoxy of revealed truth can not be tolerated. If the Volt can be named car of the year, then you might have to agree with at least some of what the Obama administration is attempting to do and that can not be allowed. Motor Trend has even responded with the reminder that "*driving and Oxycontin don't mix*." It does not take much effort to understand that the great hoax is really being perpetrated by those often labeled as climate deniers. Even when they do find errors in any of the science, the correction of those errors has only served to strengthen that case for climate change. When they proudly proclaim that the Arctic Sea Ice is expanding again, they fail to note that it is also thinning, having less "old ice" or volume than ever before. When emails between scientists were hacked and then leaked last year, the further investigation has shown that it was all much ado about little; that the claims of the deniers that the were proof of some perfidy were as bogus the various lists of names of scientists who supposedly oppose the idea that human activity is changing the climate. (Many of the names on that list were already dead before the list was first published, almost all of the others had never given their permission for that use of their names. Yet still, Sen. Inhofe has continued to publish it at government expense. While Inhofe, Shimkus and their minions are all set to determine climate policy for this country, the Chinese have a different goal. They are investing heavily in Green Energy, even to produce the same forms of electric cars that Limbaugh feels in Un-American and the first step to something that he calls Socialism. Which brings me back to the rational for why I made it into a local election issue. If the leadership of the Republican Party, especially those with Tea Party backing, have decided that rationality has no place in national policy decisions, then the future depends on what we do here, in California, in Morgan Hill. Make of it what you will. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sat Nov 27 14:26:54 2010 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:26:54 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] credit unions In-Reply-To: <4CF16AED.4080502@prodsyse.com> References: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> <4CF16AED.4080502@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <4CF185AE.9000100@charter.net> On 11/27/2010 12:32 PM, spencerg wrote: > Hi, Jim: Thanks. I'll add Provident to my list of locals. Anything > else, e.g., what you like or don't of different credit unions, how > should someone select one over another? Spencer > I ended up in Merriwest after the IBM Employeed FCU was absorbed. Service is good except for home mortgage. Like every other small bank, they have to sell the load and you don't even know who holds it now. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Nov 27 16:05:53 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:05:53 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] credit unions In-Reply-To: <4CF185AE.9000100@charter.net> References: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> <4CF16AED.4080502@prodsyse.com> <4CF185AE.9000100@charter.net> Message-ID: <4CF19CE1.1050208@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: What contact information should we have on this tri-fold on "Abusive Banks"? Attached please find a draft in *.pdf format. It ends with a Green party logo and the Santa Clara Greens web site. I could add my name and / or anyone else's plus an email address. I hesistate to add my own email address. Do the Santa Clara Greens have an email, something like, "info at cagreens.org"? Should this brochure mention the Dec. 7 protests? The current verbiage does but recommends something more methodical that would involve less risk and have a comparable (maybe larger) impact long term. There is space for more information, but I'm not ready to fill that space right now. Best Wishes, Spencer On 11/27/2010 2:26 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > On 11/27/2010 12:32 PM, spencerg wrote: >> Hi, Jim: Thanks. I'll add Provident to my list of locals. Anything >> else, e.g., what you like or don't of different credit unions, how >> should someone select one over another? Spencer >> > I ended up in Merriwest after the IBM Employeed FCU was absorbed. > Service is good except for home mortgage. 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Best Wishes, Spencer ############################### What contact information should we have on this tri-fold on "Abusive Banks"? Attached please find a draft in *.pdf format. It ends with a Green party logo and the Santa Clara Greens web site. I could add my name and / or anyone else's plus an email address. I hesistate to add my own email address. Do the Santa Clara Greens have an email, something like, "info at cagreens.org"? Should this brochure mention the Dec. 7 protests? The current verbiage does but recommends something more methodical that would involve less risk and have a comparable (maybe larger) impact long term. There is space for more information, but I'm not ready to fill that space right now. Best Wishes, Spencer On 11/27/2010 2:26 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > On 11/27/2010 12:32 PM, spencerg wrote: >> Hi, Jim: Thanks. I'll add Provident to my list of locals. 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From: "Robin Averbeck, Rainforest Action Network" Subject: Get your rainforest-safe gift guide Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 07:03:50 -0500 (EST) Size: 12862 URL: From fredd at freeshell.org Mon Nov 29 12:52:33 2010 From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:52:33 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Potluck Service Ware, Etc. Message-ID: <4CF41291.4030907@freeshell.org> Friends, Regarding supplies and logistics for Thursday evening: We have ample plastic plates, cups (cold and hot), forks and spoons (stored in our utility closet) for service at the POTLUCK event. However, we will need additional volunteer toters for some trips between our house and the clubhouse. (One round trip includes four flights of stairs.) We'll provide the hot and cold beverages (Coffee, Tea, Lemonade and hot & cold Tap Water). Individuals can also bring beverages of their choosing. One domestic sized oven & range and a refrigerator & freezer will be available in the clubhouse. Please call or email us if you have questions or suggestions. We'll be setting up between 5 & 5:30 PM> Looking forward to a festive evening. Fred and Lois P.S. I'm estimating a group size of 30 - 50. From jims at greens.org Mon Nov 29 16:22:15 2010 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:22:15 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] credit unions In-Reply-To: <4CF2F079.3040909@prodsyse.com> References: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> <4CF16AED.4080502@prodsyse.com> <4CF185AE.9000100@charter.net> <4CF2F079.3040909@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <4CF443B7.6060102@greens.org> I like this idea and commend Spencer for taking the initiative on it. But, writing composition does not appear to be one of his better skills. There are several errors in grammar, diction, punctuation, and format in this brochure. A good idea must also be presented well to be taken seriously. A presentation that does not display professionalism causes the reader to doubt the credibility of the subject being presented. There are a few people in this Local with good writing skills. I'm one of them. I could help out, but not immediately. Is anybody else available? If not, I'd recommend postponing this for a week or two until someone can lend the writing skills needed to make this good idea into a presentation that will convince its intended audience. Jim S. On 11/28/2010 4:14 PM, spencerg wrote: > Hello, All: > > > Attached please find an update to the draft "Abusive Banks" brochure. Thanks > to Jim Doyle, who suggested changes, which were not all implemented verbatim. > > > This version puts the Green party logo and Santa Clara Greens PO box number on > panel 4, but no phone number nor email address. I'd like to see at least one > of these two added, but we don't have consensus on that yet. > > > Current deadline: Tuesday, Nov. 30, so it can be printed in time for the > potluck Thursday, Dec. 2. > > > Comments? > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > ############################### > What contact information should we have on this tri-fold on "Abusive Banks"? > > > Attached please find a draft in *.pdf format. It ends with a Green party logo > and the Santa Clara Greens web site. I could add my name and / or anyone > else's plus an email address. I hesistate to add my own email address. Do the > Santa Clara Greens have an email, something like, "info at cagreens.org"? > > > Should this brochure mention the Dec. 7 protests? The current verbiage does > but recommends something more methodical that would involve less risk and have > a comparable (maybe larger) impact long term. > > > There is space for more information, but I'm not ready to fill that space > right now. > > > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > > On 11/27/2010 2:26 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: >> On 11/27/2010 12:32 PM, spencerg wrote: >>> Hi, Jim: Thanks. I'll add Provident to my list of locals. Anything >>> else, e.g., what you like or don't of different credit unions, how >>> should someone select one over another? Spencer >>> >> I ended up in Merriwest after the IBM Employeed FCU was absorbed. >> Service is good except for home mortgage. Like every other small >> bank, they have to sell the load and you don't even know who holds it >> now. >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Nov 29 18:22:01 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:22:01 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] credit unions In-Reply-To: <4CF443B7.6060102@greens.org> References: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> <4CF16AED.4080502@prodsyse.com> <4CF185AE.9000100@charter.net> <4CF2F079.3040909@prodsyse.com> <4CF443B7.6060102@greens.org> Message-ID: <4CF45FC9.7080607@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Thanks to Jim for insisting that the prose needed a more careful review. My wife suggested some changes, incorporated in the attached. Deadline: This evening. Caroline said she plans to print what we have tomorrow morning and use that. (The perfect is the enemy of the good.) If you have suggestions after this evening, we could likely use them with a later version. This version mentions Dec. 7 and will seem a little dated after that. Best Wishes, Spencer On 11/29/2010 4:22 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > I like this idea and commend Spencer for taking the initiative on it. > But, writing composition does not appear to be one of his better > skills. There are several errors in grammar, diction, punctuation, and > format in this brochure. > > A good idea must also be presented well to be taken seriously. A > presentation that does not display professionalism causes the reader > to doubt the credibility of the subject being presented. > > There are a few people in this Local with good writing skills. I'm one > of them. I could help out, but not immediately. Is anybody else > available? If not, I'd recommend postponing this for a week or two > until someone can lend the writing skills needed to make this good > idea into a presentation that will convince its intended audience. > > Jim S. > > > > > > On 11/28/2010 4:14 PM, spencerg wrote: >> Hello, All: >> >> >> Attached please find an update to the draft "Abusive Banks" brochure. >> Thanks >> to Jim Doyle, who suggested changes, which were not all implemented >> verbatim. >> >> >> This version puts the Green party logo and Santa Clara Greens PO box >> number on >> panel 4, but no phone number nor email address. I'd like to see at >> least one >> of these two added, but we don't have consensus on that yet. >> >> >> Current deadline: Tuesday, Nov. 30, so it can be printed in time for the >> potluck Thursday, Dec. 2. >> >> >> Comments? >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> ############################### >> What contact information should we have on this tri-fold on "Abusive >> Banks"? >> >> >> Attached please find a draft in *.pdf format. It ends with a Green >> party logo >> and the Santa Clara Greens web site. I could add my name and / or anyone >> else's plus an email address. I hesistate to add my own email >> address. Do the >> Santa Clara Greens have an email, something like, "info at cagreens.org"? >> >> >> Should this brochure mention the Dec. 7 protests? The current >> verbiage does >> but recommends something more methodical that would involve less risk >> and have >> a comparable (maybe larger) impact long term. >> >> >> There is space for more information, but I'm not ready to fill that >> space >> right now. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> >> On 11/27/2010 2:26 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: >>> On 11/27/2010 12:32 PM, spencerg wrote: >>>> Hi, Jim: Thanks. I'll add Provident to my list of locals. Anything >>>> else, e.g., what you like or don't of different credit unions, how >>>> should someone select one over another? Spencer >>>> >>> I ended up in Merriwest after the IBM Employeed FCU was absorbed. >>> Service is good except for home mortgage. Like every other small >>> bank, they have to sell the load and you don't even know who holds it >>> now. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: AbusiveBanks3.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 107555 bytes Desc: not available URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Nov 29 20:51:09 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:51:09 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] credit unions In-Reply-To: <4CF443B7.6060102@greens.org> References: <4CF16154.4010404@sbcglobal.net> <4CF16AED.4080502@prodsyse.com> <4CF185AE.9000100@charter.net> <4CF2F079.3040909@prodsyse.com> <4CF443B7.6060102@greens.org> Message-ID: <4CF482BD.2080108@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Attached please find a minor update on the last version, thanks to suggestions from Valerie Face. Best Wishes, Spencer ############################# Thanks to Jim for insisting that the prose needed a more careful review. My wife suggested some changes, incorporated in the attached. Deadline: This evening. Caroline said she plans to print what we have tomorrow morning and use that. (The perfect is the enemy of the good.) If you have suggestions after this evening, we could likely use them with a later version. This version mentions Dec. 7 and will seem a little dated after that. Best Wishes, Spencer On 11/29/2010 4:22 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > I like this idea and commend Spencer for taking the initiative on it. > But, writing composition does not appear to be one of his better > skills. There are several errors in grammar, diction, punctuation, and > format in this brochure. > > A good idea must also be presented well to be taken seriously. A > presentation that does not display professionalism causes the reader > to doubt the credibility of the subject being presented. > > There are a few people in this Local with good writing skills. I'm one > of them. I could help out, but not immediately. Is anybody else > available? If not, I'd recommend postponing this for a week or two > until someone can lend the writing skills needed to make this good > idea into a presentation that will convince its intended audience. > > Jim S. > > > > > > On 11/28/2010 4:14 PM, spencerg wrote: >> Hello, All: >> >> >> Attached please find an update to the draft "Abusive Banks" brochure. >> Thanks >> to Jim Doyle, who suggested changes, which were not all implemented >> verbatim. >> >> >> This version puts the Green party logo and Santa Clara Greens PO box >> number on >> panel 4, but no phone number nor email address. I'd like to see at >> least one >> of these two added, but we don't have consensus on that yet. >> >> >> Current deadline: Tuesday, Nov. 30, so it can be printed in time for the >> potluck Thursday, Dec. 2. >> >> >> Comments? >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> ############################### >> What contact information should we have on this tri-fold on "Abusive >> Banks"? >> >> >> Attached please find a draft in *.pdf format. It ends with a Green >> party logo >> and the Santa Clara Greens web site. I could add my name and / or anyone >> else's plus an email address. I hesistate to add my own email >> address. Do the >> Santa Clara Greens have an email, something like, "info at cagreens.org"? >> >> >> Should this brochure mention the Dec. 7 protests? The current >> verbiage does >> but recommends something more methodical that would involve less risk >> and have >> a comparable (maybe larger) impact long term. >> >> >> There is space for more information, but I'm not ready to fill that >> space >> right now. >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> >> On 11/27/2010 2:26 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: >>> On 11/27/2010 12:32 PM, spencerg wrote: >>>> Hi, Jim: Thanks. I'll add Provident to my list of locals. Anything >>>> else, e.g., what you like or don't of different credit unions, how >>>> should someone select one over another? Spencer >>>> >>> I ended up in Merriwest after the IBM Employeed FCU was absorbed. >>> Service is good except for home mortgage. Like every other small >>> bank, they have to sell the load and you don't even know who holds it >>> now. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The have a number of locations in this county, including Sunnyvale, Cupertino and Milpitas, as well as some near Sacramento and in Southern California. Green is EcoWisdom! Drew JamBoi at Greens.org > Hello: Below (and attached) please find a partial draft of a tri-fold > with a tentative title of 'Just Say "No!" to Abusive Banks'. This > currently occupies just over one side of a single 8.5 x 11 inch page. > This means we can increase the volume by between 50 and 70 percent. We > should all contact information for us, including a Green Party logo, I > think, plus preferable more information on each of the 8 alternatives. > I think I want to delete at least one, because their web site advertised > 90 days without payments on a new loan -- as if consumers don't pay > extra for that. This should probably mention the Dec. 7 Worldwide bank > protest day; it currently doesn't. > > > Comments? > Best Wishes, > Spencer > p.s. I need all comments by, e.g., next Tuesday. If we can't reach a > consensus by then, we likely won't be able to do anything before the > Dec. 7 worldwide bank protest day. > > > ################################## > > Did senior banking executives earned their multimillion dollar bonuses > this year? > If you think so, we'd like to see your evidence. > Unhappy with your bank? What about a credit union? Many have the same > insurance and comparable ATM services as major banks, are member owned > and invest locally, not trying to make the rich richer at the expense of > the poor and middle class. > If you are looking for a loan, especially a new mortgage, shop around. > Do NOT let a mortgage broker to do that for you, as you will > (eventually) pay the broker's fee. > > The financial industry in the US (banks, securities, insurance) "earned" > 34% of total US domestic corporate profits over the past decade, up from > 16% for 1934-1999 (see below). > For the free market to work properly, consumers must have reasonable > access to quality information about available alternatives. Some of the > increase in profits in the financial sector come because consumers have > no effective means of protecting their interests in this sector. > Consequently, instead of innovating to provide better service to > consumers, banks have innovated to maximize their profits at the expense > of consumers, including colluding in setting credit card rates to harm > consumers.1 This should be an antitrust violation, but most politicians > are elected with massive contributions from big business, especially the > major banks, and the commercial media would lose advertising revenue and > therefore profitability if they exposed it.2 > > Process for changing a bank > > 1. Select an alternative (see below). > 2. Open a new account. Ask for forms to facilitate the transfer. > 3. Get checks, credit, debit, ATM cards for the new account. > 4. Change direct deposits to go to the new account. > 5. Submit a "Close and Transfer Letter" to close your old account and > transfer remaining funds to the new account. > > Credit Unions in San Jose > > > > San Jose Credit Union (www.sjcu.org) > > > Valley Credit Union (www.valleycu.org) > > > Star One Credit Union (www.starone.org) > > > Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union (www.sccfcu.org) > > > Meriwest Credit Union (www.meriwest.com) > > > Alliance Federal Credit Union (www.alliancecreditunion.org) > > > Technology Credit Union (www.techcu.com) > > > Commonwealth Central Credit Union (www.wealthcu.org) > > > > Finance as a Percent of US Domestic Corporate Profit 3 > > > > ############################### > Hello: > > > I'm drafting a tri-fold brochure to distributed around the Dec. 7 > international bank rebellion day, and I could use help. A quick > response would be appreciated so we can complete the text by next > Tuesday, Nov. 30. > > > 1. Where should people go to if they want to leave an abusive > bank like Wells Fargo? > > > 2. For people who want to change, what is a sensible process for > selecting an alternative and then moving? > > > 3. Where do you bank, i.e., have a checking account, etc., and > what do you think about that organization? My wife and I have banked > with Wells Fargo for almost 30 years. We decided almost a year ago we > wanted to leave but haven't because we do not yet have an acceptable > answer to questions 1 and 2 above. So far, I've tentatively decided to > limit consideration to 10 credit unions with operations in and near San > Jose. I'm focusing on credit unions, as they reportedly are > cooperatives, officially owned by their members, presumably invest the > money locally and do not engage in the kinds of speculative practiced > that have manufactured the current "Great Recession", now now > threatening the economic stability of Ireland and possibly, Portugal, > Spain, Italy, and perhaps the entire Euro zone. However, I don't know > how true any of this is. > > > *** There are 8 credit unions in or near San Jose listed with > "http://local.yahoo.com/CA/San+Jose/Legal+Financial+Services/Credit+Unions"; > listed below. Some of these have customer reviews. However, there > are so few reviews that I hesitate to give them too much weight. > > > San Jose Credit Union (www.sjcu.org) > > > Valley Credit Union (www.valleycu.org) > > > Star One Credit Union (www.starone.org) > > > Santa Clara County Federal Credit Union (www.sccfcu.org) > > > Meriwest Credit Union (www.meriwest.com) > > > Alliance Federal Credit Union (www.alliancecreditunion.org) > > > Technology Credit Union (www.techcu.com) > > > Commonwealth Central Credit Union (www.wealthcu.org) > > > Thanks. More soon. > Spencer > > > ############################### > subj: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Pot Luck -- we need to announce to San > Mateo! > > On 11/26/2010 2:51 PM, jamboi wrote: >> Yes, and as a matter of fact, we talked to a San Mateo Green at Junior >> States who hadn't heard of the event yet, so we need to post the info >> and >> get it out to San Mateo and everyone else. >> >> Green is Connection! >> >> Drew >> >>> What time is the pot luck, Thursday, Dec. 2? I've only seen a date and >>> "Fred's Clubhouse", but not a street address, etc. >>> >>> >>> Spencer >>> >>> >>> On 11/26/2010 7:00 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >>>> Sounds good to me. If we could get them printed by Thursday, we could >>>> maybe >>>> spend some time at the potluck at Fred's folding them, and people who >>>> wanted to >>>> stand outside banks and pass them out could get some. >>>> Caroline >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: spencerg >>>> To: Jim Doyle >>>> Cc: sosfbay discussion group; Betsy >>>> Wolf-Graves >>>> >>>> Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 8:43:36 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] suggestions >>>> >>>> Happy Thanksgiving (D?a de Acci?n de Gracias, in Spanish) >>>> >>>> >>>> What do you think about a tri-fold using the "No on 14" template, >>>> something like >>>> the following: >>>> >>>> >>>> *** NOTE: If we are going to have an impact by Dec. 7, we need to >>>> move >>>> very >>>> fast with this. >>>> >>>> >>>> HEADLINE: Dec. 7: International "Move Your Bank" Day(1) >>>> >>>> (1) -> footnote referencing something discussing bank protests in >>>> Europe and >>>> elsewhere planned for Dec. 7. >>>> >>>> >>>> INTRODUCTORY NARRATIVE: If you don't like your money being used to >>>> destabilize >>>> the international economy to make the rich richer and the rest of us >>>> poorer, >>>> consider moving your money to purely local credit unions, savings and >>>> loans or >>>> banks. >>>> >>>> >>>> *** Then follow this with a table of local institutions, names, >>>> addresses, web >>>> sites, phone numbers AND some symbols that summarize their investment >>>> policies >>>> and some assurance that they have NOT been involved in "liar's loans" >>>> and >>>> similar abusive practices. >>>> >>>> >>>> *** OR refer people to a web site that contains such a list. >>>> >>>> >>>> *** NEEDED: I need help compiling this list and checking to make sure >>>> that the >>>> financial institutions listed are actually clean, i.e., have NOT been >>>> involved >>>> in the most egregious, abusive practices. >>>> >>>> >>>> ADDITIONAL CONTENT: Then we could say something about the repeal of >>>> Glass-Stiegel and the Republican promise to make further gifts at >>>> taxpayer >>>> expense to the financial industry. This should include, I think, the >>>> plot I >>>> previously distributed showing the profits in the financial sector as >>>> a >>>> percent >>>> of total US domestic corporate profits jumping from 15 percent >>>> historically to >>>> between 30 and 40 percent over the past decade since the repeal of >>>> Glass-Stiegel. We should include, I think, a reference to bais in the >>>> media, >>>> e.g., stating that the popular perception of a liberal bias to the >>>> media >>>> is >>>> equivalent to saying that the media routinely bites the hand that >>>> feeds >>>> them. >>>> Then note that commercial media is a business and lose money when >>>> advertisers >>>> decrease their advertising. The only way the media can survive doing >>>> that is by >>>> getting a substantially larger audience, which rarely happens when the >>>> public >>>> believes the media have a liberal bias. Then briefly describe the >>>> Herman and >>>> Chomsky worth and unworthy subjects model and reference Wikipedia >>>> articles on >>>> media bias. >>>> >>>> >>>> Comments? >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> ####################################### >>>> >>>> On 11/24/2010 8:38 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>>> Spencer named the topic - abusive banks. >>>>> Caroline named the places: outside of banks. >>>>> And abusive banks triggered "state bank" in my mind. >>>>> >>>>> I have not received a response from the high school senior >>>>> from presentation high school as yet. Her last email - on Monday - >>>>> was she would talk it over with her friends. >>>>> >>>>> And Andrea has reported that "the printer" is working - the one >>>>> that was given to us and is now in her garage. >>>>> >>>>> Are there any other ideas we could use in the future? >>>>> >>>>> Jim Doyle From jamboi at greens.org Tue Nov 30 08:30:09 2010 From: jamboi at greens.org (jamboi) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:30:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] YOUR EXPERIENCE with Credit Unions? --> for anti-bank brochure; text: Tu, Nov. 30; fold @ pot luck, Th., Dec. 2 In-Reply-To: <39222.98.234.185.152.1291134154.squirrel@greens.org> References: <4CEDE838.7000404@sbcglobal.net> <4CEE9238.7080503@prodsyse.com> <933403.76198.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4CEFD99B.2050405@prodsyse.com> <48340.98.234.185.152.1290811872.squirrel@greens.org> <4CF06364.5000902@prodsyse.com> <39222.98.234.185.152.1291134154.squirrel@greens.org> Message-ID: <34145.98.234.185.152.1291134609.squirrel@greens.org> oh, i see Spencer wanted to get it all in by last night. well Keypoint is one to add for the future anyway... Green is EcoWisdom! Drew JamBoi at Greens.org > Another Credit Union to add: Keypoint (formerly known as AEA (American > Electronics Association). I've done business with them for years and > they're excellent. The have a number of locations in this county, > including Sunnyvale, Cupertino and Milpitas, as well as some near > Sacramento and in Southern California. > > Green is EcoWisdom! > > Drew > JamBoi at Greens.org >> Hello: Below (and attached) please find a partial draft of a tri-fold >> with a tentative title of 'Just Say "No!" to Abusive Banks'. This >> currently occupies just over one side of a single 8.5 x 11 inch page. >> This means we can increase the volume by between 50 and 70 percent. We >> should all contact information for us, including a Green Party logo, I >> think, plus preferable more information on each of the 8 alternatives. >> I think I want to delete at least one, because their web site advertised >> 90 days without payments on a new loan -- as if consumers don't pay >> extra for that. This should probably mention the Dec. 7 Worldwide bank >> protest day; it currently doesn't. >> >> >> Comments? >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Nov 30 11:11:01 2010 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:11:01 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] historical perspectives re wikileaks Message-ID: <4CF54C45.9000803@sbcglobal.net> Here a link to an article in the independant by Robert Fisk who recounts previous episodes of similar or same nature in the middle east - in the countries and with their leaders - as some of the revelations from the Wikileaks. *http://tinyurl.com/2amrjw3 * From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Nov 30 12:40:04 2010 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:40:04 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Updating the web site? Message-ID: <4CF56124.7010003@prodsyse.com> I just checked "www.cagreens.org/santaclara". It says, "Our next monthly meeting will be Wednesday December 1th, 2010". It also asks people to attend our "Food 4 Thought" event, Saturday, May 22nd, and vote NO on Prop 14 in the Primary, June 8. Caroline told me that the Dec. 2 pot luck is in lieu of the Dec. 1 meeting, but the pot luck is not listed. It may not be feasible to fix this before tomorrow, but it would be nice. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Tue Nov 30 12:36:43 2010 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:36:43 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Updating the web site? Message-ID: <4CF5605B.7090104@structuremonitoring.com> I just checked "www.cagreens.org/santaclara". It says, "Our next monthly meeting will be Wednesday December 1th, 2010". It also asks people to attend our "Food 4 Thought" event, Saturday, May 22nd, and vote NO on Prop 14 in the Primary, June 8. Caroline told me that the Dec. 2 pot luck is in lieu of the Dec. 1 meeting, but the pot luck is not listed. It may not be feasible to fix this before tomorrow, but it would be nice. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Nov 30 23:16:34 2010 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:16:34 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: PCI Messenger - November 2010] Message-ID: <4CF5F652.5010201@aceweb.com> There are always some great reads in the links from this newsletter... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: PCI Messenger - November 2010 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 11:56:43 -0500 From: Post Carbon Institute Reply-To: Post Carbon Institute To: Donate to Post Carbon Read longer version newsletter online ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Post Carbon Institute banner ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Baghdad Bob says there will be oil * contents* / 1. pci in the news <#ar1> 2. the post carbon reader <#ar2> 3. new pci adviser <#ar3> 4. latest publications <#ar4> 5. energy bulletin picks <#ar5> 6. transition us update <#ar6> 7. featured events <#ar7> / GIVING THANKS Well, it's about damned time. This month the International Energy Agency (IEA) finally publicly acknowledged that Peak Oil is a serious issue. While the IEA had to dodge and weave a bit (as explained brilliantly by PCI Fellow Tom Whipple <#iea>) with this admission, it marks a turning point in the international energy conversation. At Post Carbon Institute, we've been working tirelessly for years to arrive at this moment, and we want to stop and give deep appreciation for the efforts of Colin Campbell, Kenneth Deffeyes, Matt Simmons, Richard Heinberg, James Howard Kunstler and so many others whose work has paved the way. Oh, and of course, Marion King Hubbert who first sounded the alarm back in 1956 . To all of you from all of us at Post Carbon Institute: THANK YOU. Now it's time to move forward and get to work. Among many other things, We still have Peak Coal to worry about. Speaking of which... /READ A LONGER VERSION OF THIS NEWSLETTER ONLINE/ */'Tis the Season for Giving...and Receiving/*/ Give the gift of insight this year. Donate $100 or more , and you can send an autographed copy of the Post Carbon Reader to someone who really needs to read it (or you can gift it to yourself!). If $100 (or more) is too much of a stretch, please give what you can, and keep these newsletters, videos , free reports , and articles and blog posts coming. Thanks for your support. / ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *pci in the news* Fridley, Heinberg Discuss 'Peak Coal' in NATURE Journal 500 years of fossil fuels video This month's edition of the highly-esteemed /Nature Journal/ contains an analysis of global coal supplies by Post Carbon Institute Fellows David Fridley and Richard Heinberg. If you're a subscriber to /Nature/, you can access the article here . If not, /Nature/'s podcast interview with Richard Heinberg provides an overview. play button Nature Journal Podcast (4 minutes) play button ABC Australia Podcast Iview with Richard Heinberg Read more Back to top <#top> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *the post carbon reader* November saw the release of further exclusive articles from our brand new book the /Post Carbon Reader/ . Buildings symbol CITIES, TOWNS, AND SUBURBS: Toward Zero-Carbon Buildings Report by Hillary Brown ? November 22, 2010 Despite its persuasive momentum, the green building movement signifies a mere initial advance toward a low-carbon future. Even as we acknowledge that green facilities must be the building blocks of the resilient cities of tomorrow... Read more Economy symbol ECONOMY: The Competitiveness of Local Living Economies Report by Michael Shuman ? November 3, 2010 Economic localization offers the key to solving a growing number of global problems, including peak oil, climate disruption, and financial meltdowns. Yet the perception remains that this solution is very costly... Read more Back to top <#top> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *new pci adviser* In November PCI welcomed a new adviser. Mia Birk headshot Mia Birk Check out this brief summary of Mia's Portland success story , which we included as bonus online material for /The Post Carbon Reader/ . It's excerpted from her wonderful book, /Joyride: Pedaling Toward a Healthier Planet/ , a book we highly recommend... Read more Back to top <#top> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *latest publications* Read the latest content by our Fellows, Board and Staff anytime on our website. Here are some selections from the last month: Baghdad Bob The IEA's New Peak Post by Tom Whipple ? November 24, 2010 Without missing a beat and without much explanation, the world's leading compiler of everything about energy has gone from denying that conventional oil production will peak in our lifetime to saying it happened four years ago... Read more Change Ahead sign The End of Growth Post by Richard Heinberg ? November 12, 2010 This article is an excerpt from Richard's new book (working title /The End of Growth/) is set for publication in July 2011. Given the urgency and fragility of the global economic crisis, we will be serializing the rough content... Read more /more recent publications from our staff & fellows/ Back to top <#top> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *energy bulletin picks* Below is a selection of recent articles and media appearing on Energy Bulletin . Energy Bulletin is now on facebook . Come join us there! Boatmill Boat mills: water powered, floating factories Kris de Decker, Low-tech Magazine The waterwheel was seen as the most important power source in the world, from the Middle Ages to the end of the nineteenth century. When smaller streams became saturated, medieval engineers turned their attention...Read more PCI Reader cover Local governments prepare for peak oil; cost-competitive local businesses by Carl Etnier, Equal Time Radio This special show highlights contributors to the /Post Carbon Reader: Managing the 21st Century's Sustainability Crises /. (You can buy the book through your locally owned bookstore, order it online, or download selected chapters)... Listen /more from energy bulletin/ Back to top <#top> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *transition US update* A monthly update from the US regional hub of the international Transition movement. Transition Whatcom Transiton US was recently featured in the Huffington Post "In the face of the challenges it has taken aboard, the transition movement will succeed at the very least in raising consciousness, in part because it suggests tangible constructive action. With each row of vegetables planted and each solar panel installed, it wins the right to say, "oh, this is necessary, but it's also enlivening to do, isn't it?" Read the Huffington Post article by Craig K. Comstock Also, we are nearly two thirds of the way to reaching our $100,000 Challenge Grant !...Read more Back to top <#top> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PCI Reader poster ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * featured events* UMass logo Richard Heinberg at UMass Dartmouth November 6-7, 2010, San Francisco, CA Post Carbon Senior Fellow Richard Heinberg will speak on renewable energy and sustainability. Further event information. GSII logo 'Economics of Happiness' screening, Berkeley, CA January 11, 2011, Berkeley, CA Join director Helena Norberg-Hodge for a special screening. The film includes contributions from Post Carbon Fellows Richard Heinberg , Rob Hopkins , Michael Shuman and Bill McKibben . Further event information. /view our full events calendar/ Back to top <#top> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PCI Reader poster *Image credit:* 2010 WEO Global Production by type ? OECD/IEA *Image credit:* Transition Whatcom work party Transition US /flickr Donate button Facebook button Twitter button Having trouble receiving our e-mail? Try adding us (newsletter at postcarbon.org ) to your Address Book. Remove my email tnharter at aceweb.com from this list Subscribe another email address Our mailing address is: Post Carbon Institute 613 4th Street, Suite 208 Santa Rosa, CA 95404 USA Copyright (c) 2010 Post Carbon Institute. All rights reserved. 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