From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct  1 11:16:21 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 11:16:21 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Peace Fair
Message-ID: <4CA62575.70207@sbcglobal.net>

The 2nd HPF prep meeting will be this Saturday 10/2 at 1 PM at the SJ 
Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street (just north of SJSU 
campus).     Please reply to this message re whether your organization 
can have any representative(s) at this meeting.   Bring refreshments to 
share if you  wish.

Please review the notes below for items you may have agreed to do and/or 
that we noted we intended to ask you to do if you were not at the 9/12 
meeting.  Apologies if some of that asking has not happened due to 
travel, etc., by the intended "askers" -- we started meeting earlier 
this year than last year so hopefully we are still ahead of the timing 
of particular jobs as they were accomplished in 2009.  :-)

Also if you cannot attend the planning meetings, please volunteer for some
particular work that needs to be done to make the HPF work.

We hope you all intend to participate this year on Saturday 12/4 at the
Campbell United Methodist Church on Winchester Blvd. just south of
Hamilton Avenue.  If you cannot and have not already let us know,
please reply to this message to let us know.

Thanks, everyone!

Joan Goddard
for the HPF Committee
408-396-8039 = cell (call anytime)



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Oct  2 00:52:04 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 00:52:04 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] TODAY: March in DC and locally
Message-ID: <4CA6E4A4.7030301@earthlink.net>


There is a march happening today (Saturday) in Wash. DC..
     http://action.onenationworkingtogether.org/content/main

It has a LONG list of endorsers, including the Green Party,
( gp.org ):
     http://www.onenationworkingtogether.org/partners

There are local actions, the closest being in San Mateo
and Santa Cruz:
     http://www.onenationworkingtogether.org/pages/local_events

I might go to the San Mateo one.

Gerry




From eameece at sfo.com  Sat Oct  2 10:19:38 2010
From: eameece at sfo.com (Eric A. Meece)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:19:38 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10
In-Reply-To: <4CA4CF71.5010606@charter.net>
References: <4CA4CF71.5010606@charter.net>
Message-ID: <sig.6891e66965.FFB91560845D4BF2A50AF07957404D6D@eameecePC>

I would like Green Party folks to participate in 10/10/10, sponsored by http://www.350.org. This is a chance to make climate change front and center again. There's a demo from 4-8 @ Stevens Creek and Winchester. I hope I'll see some of you there.

Eric Meece aka Eric the Green

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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Oct  2 12:40:13 2010
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 12:40:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10
In-Reply-To: <sig.6891e66965.FFB91560845D4BF2A50AF07957404D6D@eameecePC>
References: <4CA4CF71.5010606@charter.net>
	<sig.6891e66965.FFB91560845D4BF2A50AF07957404D6D@eameecePC>
Message-ID: <491532.99315.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

And for anyone who would like to do something from 10:00am until they run out of 
paper goods, I am hosting a "Get out into the neighborhood and encourage people 
to turn off their unneeded appliances" event. For details, please call 
(408)530-0118).
Caroline




________________________________
From: Eric A. Meece <eameece at sfo.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Sat, October 2, 2010 10:19:38 AM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10


I would like Green Party folks to participate in 10/10/10, sponsored by 
http://www.350.org. This is a chance to make climate change front and center 
again. There's a demo from 4-8 @ Stevens Creek and Winchester. I hope I'll see 
some of you there.
?
Eric Meece aka Eric the Green
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Oct  2 13:16:08 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 13:16:08 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10
In-Reply-To: <491532.99315.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4CA4CF71.5010606@charter.net>	<sig.6891e66965.FFB91560845D4BF2A50AF07957404D6D@eameecePC>
	<491532.99315.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4CA79308.9040202@earthlink.net>


I am participating in the "Time for an Oil Change" event
in Palo Alto.

To see what events are in the area:

     http://www.350.org/map (for the world)
     http://www.350.org/map#/map/37.4/-122/9  (local)

Gerry


Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> And for anyone who would like to do something from 10:00am until they
> run out of paper goods, I am hosting a "Get out into the neighborhood
> and encourage people to turn off their unneeded appliances" event. For
> details, please call (408)530-0118).
> Caroline
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Eric A. Meece <eameece at sfo.com>
> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> *Sent:* Sat, October 2, 2010 10:19:38 AM
> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10
>
> I would like Green Party folks to participate in 10/10/10, sponsored by
> http://www.350.org. This is a chance to make climate change front and
> center again. There's a demo from 4-8 @ Stevens Creek and Winchester. I
> hope I'll see some of you there.
> Eric Meece aka Eric the Green
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  2 15:15:18 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:15:18 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Valerie's efforts re Laura Wells event
Message-ID: <4CA7AEF6.8050008@sbcglobal.net>

Valerie is to be commended for her efforts.
Just look at all that she did for the event.
Here is a copy of her email to me.

Hi Jim,

I'm sorry for the delay in responding.  
I've been feeling pretty bad most of the week, 
so I did not go to the Farmers Market last Friday 
after all, and I delayed making phone calls for a while.

I did eventually make calls to 94085, 94086 and part of 
94087 with the following results:

busy: 8
disconnected: 22
left message on answering machine/voicemail: 54
left message w/human: 4
maybe/will try to attend: 4
moved out of CA: 1
no answer: 8
not available to attend: 14
wrong number: 14
--------------------------------
Total: 129

I also posted information about the event on a few 
online events sites: Yahoo, sanjose.com, Yelp and Zvents.

I did try to go last night, but my first bus was delayed, 
so I missed my connection with the second bus.  After checking 
my other options at that point, I determined that I would get 
there pretty late and I might as well stay home.

I hope that the event was a success and that Laura got her 
message out to more people and got some good donations.  
I will mail her the donation that I intended to give last night.

Best wishes,
Valerie

~*~*~*~   Car-Free for 30 Years   ~*~*~*~





From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct  2 15:23:16 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:23:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Focus New Magazine Available for Distribution
Message-ID: <4CA7B0D4.9020306@sbcglobal.net>

The latest Green Focus is available - see the details below.

But, I received an email from Caroline that read in part

Okay, so is anyone buying these?
We still have half a bazillion of the last issue, I think.
Caroline

-So I propose this as an agenda topic for next Wednesday:

Who is going to hand out how many?

In that way we will determine the order quantity.

Jim Doyle

The State Green Party's official news magazine, GREEN
FOCUS, is ready for immediate distribution. This full-color
edition has profiles of nearly all Green Party candidates
- federal, state and local, as well as analysis of the state propositions.

All CANDIDATE CAMPAIGNS and counties are needed to
distribute GREEN FOCUS ASAP  through
tabling, door-to-door and other means to voters to
show who our Green candidates are, and why they should
receive votes.

Bundles of 100 (or more) are available NOW. Donations
of $35 each, plus shipping to the GPCA are required to cover
printing and shipping cost.




From fredd at freeshell.org  Sun Oct  3 01:42:53 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 01:42:53 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Valerie's efforts re Laura Wells event
In-Reply-To: <4CA7AEF6.8050008@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4CA7AEF6.8050008@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4CA8420D.60601@freeshell.org>

Wow, Valerie, 129 phone calls are a lot of rings.  THANK YOU!

Regarding the event on Sept.30:
- Twenty-two people, including special guest Laura Wells attended.  (Two 
or three "strangers" and several others who are not part of the regular 
"Green Chorus" made up about 1/3 of the group.  Also, several Green 
regulars from San Mateo were in attendance.

Considering the amount of invitations that were made and the publicity 
that was generated, the size of the attendance to hear and meet the 
Green Party Candidate for Governor was embarrassingly scant.  Perhaps 
more would have shown up if notices to be published had been sent to the 
news media.

- Laura covered much ground in her talk.  (She is very interesting and 
articulate.)  One thing she stressed was that she will continue 
campaigning as a candidate for Gov. throughout the next four years.

- There was a good sense of Green energy floating around.

- Tian Harter deserves much credit for printing and distributing 350 - 
500 attractive invitation leaflets around the Mountain View - Palo Alto 
area. Approximatly 100 of the Willow Park Condo complex units were also 
leafleted. Thanks also  to Caroline Yacoub who leafleted at the 
Sunnyvale Farmers Market.  Then too, to Jim Doyle for his promotions and 
his soliciting and recording ID information from guests. And, Kudos to 
Dana and Gerry for the audio equipment.

- Gloria Purcell, former GP candidate for State Assembly added  much 
interest serving as the ad hoc MC for much of the ado.   (By the way, 
the sweatshirts she donated and auctioned off brought in $80  for 
Laura's campaign kitty)

-  One of the brightest aspects of the whole evening was the great 
GENEROSITY of those who were in attendance.  By the end of the evening 
the crowd contributed  more than
$1,500 to Laura's campaign.  (Greens ain't tight.)

Valerie, and others of of you who couldn't attend, that's a lot of what 
happened last Thursday.

For only 22 people who made the event, there was a lot of green hay that 
was harvested -
both materially and ethereally.

That's it, in a coconut shell.

All the best,

Fred




- Then of course, thanks to all who attended.

-







On 10/2/10 3:15 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Valerie is to be commended for her efforts.
> Just look at all that she did for the event.
> Here is a copy of her email to me.
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I'm sorry for the delay in responding.  I've been feeling pretty bad 
> most of the week, so I did not go to the Farmers Market last Friday 
> after all, and I delayed making phone calls for a while.
>
> I did eventually make calls to 94085, 94086 and part of 94087 with the 
> following results:
>
> busy: 8
> disconnected: 22
> left message on answering machine/voicemail: 54
> left message w/human: 4
> maybe/will try to attend: 4
> moved out of CA: 1
> no answer: 8
> not available to attend: 14
> wrong number: 14
> --------------------------------
> Total: 129
>
> I also posted information about the event on a few online events 
> sites: Yahoo, sanjose.com, Yelp and Zvents.
>
> I did try to go last night, but my first bus was delayed, so I missed 
> my connection with the second bus.  After checking my other options at 
> that point, I determined that I would get there pretty late and I 
> might as well stay home.
>
> I hope that the event was a success and that Laura got her message out 
> to more people and got some good donations.  I will mail her the 
> donation that I intended to give last night.
>
> Best wishes,
> Valerie
>
> ~*~*~*~   Car-Free for 30 Years   ~*~*~*~
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>



From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Oct  3 10:24:49 2010
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 10:24:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Valerie's efforts re Laura Wells event
In-Reply-To: <4CA8420D.60601@freeshell.org>
References: <4CA7AEF6.8050008@sbcglobal.net> <4CA8420D.60601@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <265731.74949.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wow! Amazing! I wish I could have been there. Great work Valerie and everybody.
Caroline




________________________________
From: fred <fredd at freeshell.org>
To: Valerie Face <vdf at juno.com>
Cc: Gloria Purcell <gloria at extragalactic.net>; South SF Bay Discuss at CA Greens 
<sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>; Laura Wells <laura at laurawells.org>
Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 1:42:53 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Valerie's efforts re Laura Wells event

Wow, Valerie, 129 phone calls are a lot of rings.? THANK YOU!

Regarding the event on Sept.30:
- Twenty-two people, including special guest Laura Wells attended.? (Two or 
three "strangers" and several others who are not part of the regular "Green 
Chorus" made up about 1/3 of the group.? Also, several Green regulars from San 
Mateo were in attendance.

Considering the amount of invitations that were made and the publicity that was 
generated, the size of the attendance to hear and meet the Green Party Candidate 
for Governor was embarrassingly scant.? Perhaps more would have shown up if 
notices to be published had been sent to the news media.

- Laura covered much ground in her talk.? (She is very interesting and 
articulate.)? One thing she stressed was that she will continue campaigning as a 
candidate for Gov. throughout the next four years.

- There was a good sense of Green energy floating around.

- Tian Harter deserves much credit for printing and distributing 350 - 500 
attractive invitation leaflets around the Mountain View - Palo Alto area. 
Approximatly 100 of the Willow Park Condo complex units were also leafleted. 
Thanks also? to Caroline Yacoub who leafleted at the Sunnyvale Farmers Market.? 
Then too, to Jim Doyle for his promotions and his soliciting and recording ID 
information from guests. And, Kudos to Dana and Gerry for the audio equipment.

- Gloria Purcell, former GP candidate for State Assembly added? much interest 
serving as the ad hoc MC for much of the ado.? (By the way, the sweatshirts she 
donated and auctioned off brought in $80? for Laura's campaign kitty)

-? One of the brightest aspects of the whole evening was the great GENEROSITY of 
those who were in attendance.? By the end of the evening the crowd contributed? 
more than
$1,500 to Laura's campaign.? (Greens ain't tight.)

Valerie, and others of of you who couldn't attend, that's a lot of what happened 
last Thursday.

For only 22 people who made the event, there was a lot of green hay that was 
harvested -
both materially and ethereally.

That's it, in a coconut shell.

All the best,

Fred




- Then of course, thanks to all who attended.

-







On 10/2/10 3:15 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Valerie is to be commended for her efforts.
> Just look at all that she did for the event.
> Here is a copy of her email to me.
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I'm sorry for the delay in responding.? I've been feeling pretty bad most of 
>the week, so I did not go to the Farmers Market last Friday after all, and I 
>delayed making phone calls for a while.
> 
> I did eventually make calls to 94085, 94086 and part of 94087 with the 
>following results:
> 
> busy: 8
> disconnected: 22
> left message on answering machine/voicemail: 54
> left message w/human: 4
> maybe/will try to attend: 4
> moved out of CA: 1
> no answer: 8
> not available to attend: 14
> wrong number: 14
> --------------------------------
> Total: 129
> 
> I also posted information about the event on a few online events sites: Yahoo, 
>sanjose.com, Yelp and Zvents.
> 
> I did try to go last night, but my first bus was delayed, so I missed my 
>connection with the second bus.? After checking my other options at that point, 
>I determined that I would get there pretty late and I might as well stay home.
> 
> I hope that the event was a success and that Laura got her message out to more 
>people and got some good donations.? I will mail her the donation that I 
>intended to give last night.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Valerie
> 
> ~*~*~*~? Car-Free for 30 Years? ~*~*~*~
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 
> 

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From laura at laurawells.org  Sun Oct  3 11:12:01 2010
From: laura at laurawells.org (Laura Wells for Governor)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2010 11:12:01 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Valerie's efforts re Laura Wells event
In-Reply-To: <4CA8420D.60601@freeshell.org>
References: <4CA7AEF6.8050008@sbcglobal.net> <4CA8420D.60601@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <F4D7DEE2-0E15-4682-A73C-35F8036118BA@laurawells.org>

Hi all - (pls forward to listserve which will probably stop my  
email....)

I'm flagging everyone's emails to read in their entirety later (when  
we're in the Win With Green in 2014 phase! after the press of campaign  
demands in these final weeks), but having skimmed them, I wanted to  
add a quick note to say:

THANK YOU EVERYONE!    It was inspiring to me to be with you all, and  
Valerie, I sure did miss you and so it's nice to hear that you were  
actually on your way. I like your "Car-free for 30 years."  Since my  
main transportation method is Bikes, Buses, and Buddies, I have  
experience with buses not arriving.

Another world is possible!
Laura

Laura Wells
Green Party Candidate for Governor
P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610

www.LauraWells.org



On Oct 3, 2010, at 1:42 AM, fred wrote:

Wow, Valerie, 129 phone calls are a lot of rings.  THANK YOU!

Regarding the event on Sept.30:
- Twenty-two people, including special guest Laura Wells attended.   
(Two or three "strangers" and several others who are not part of the  
regular "Green Chorus" made up about 1/3 of the group.  Also, several  
Green regulars from San Mateo were in attendance.

Considering the amount of invitations that were made and the publicity  
that was generated, the size of the attendance to hear and meet the  
Green Party Candidate for Governor was embarrassingly scant.  Perhaps  
more would have shown up if notices to be published had been sent to  
the news media.

- Laura covered much ground in her talk.  (She is very interesting and  
articulate.)  One thing she stressed was that she will continue  
campaigning as a candidate for Gov. throughout the next four years.

- There was a good sense of Green energy floating around.

- Tian Harter deserves much credit for printing and distributing 350 -  
500 attractive invitation leaflets around the Mountain View - Palo  
Alto area. Approximatly 100 of the Willow Park Condo complex units  
were also leafleted. Thanks also  to Caroline Yacoub who leafleted at  
the Sunnyvale Farmers Market.  Then too, to Jim Doyle for his  
promotions and his soliciting and recording ID information from  
guests. And, Kudos to Dana and Gerry for the audio equipment.

- Gloria Purcell, former GP candidate for State Assembly added  much  
interest serving as the ad hoc MC for much of the ado.   (By the way,  
the sweatshirts she donated and auctioned off brought in $80  for  
Laura's campaign kitty)

-  One of the brightest aspects of the whole evening was the great  
GENEROSITY of those who were in attendance.  By the end of the evening  
the crowd contributed  more than
$1,500 to Laura's campaign.  (Greens ain't tight.)

Valerie, and others of of you who couldn't attend, that's a lot of  
what happened last Thursday.

For only 22 people who made the event, there was a lot of green hay  
that was harvested -
both materially and ethereally.

That's it, in a coconut shell.

All the best,

Fred




- Then of course, thanks to all who attended.

-







On 10/2/10 3:15 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Valerie is to be commended for her efforts.
> Just look at all that she did for the event.
> Here is a copy of her email to me.
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I'm sorry for the delay in responding.  I've been feeling pretty bad  
> most of the week, so I did not go to the Farmers Market last Friday  
> after all, and I delayed making phone calls for a while.
>
> I did eventually make calls to 94085, 94086 and part of 94087 with  
> the following results:
>
> busy: 8
> disconnected: 22
> left message on answering machine/voicemail: 54
> left message w/human: 4
> maybe/will try to attend: 4
> moved out of CA: 1
> no answer: 8
> not available to attend: 14
> wrong number: 14
> --------------------------------
> Total: 129
>
> I also posted information about the event on a few online events  
> sites: Yahoo, sanjose.com, Yelp and Zvents.
>
> I did try to go last night, but my first bus was delayed, so I  
> missed my connection with the second bus.  After checking my other  
> options at that point, I determined that I would get there pretty  
> late and I might as well stay home.
>
> I hope that the event was a success and that Laura got her message  
> out to more people and got some good donations.  I will mail her the  
> donation that I intended to give last night.
>
> Best wishes,
> Valerie
>
> ~*~*~*~   Car-Free for 30 Years   ~*~*~*~
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Oct  5 09:37:16 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 09:37:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10
In-Reply-To: <4CA79308.9040202@earthlink.net>
References: <4CA4CF71.5010606@charter.net>	<sig.6891e66965.FFB91560845D4BF2A50AF07957404D6D@eameecePC>	<491532.99315.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4CA79308.9040202@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CAB543C.4030903@earthlink.net>


FYI,

a few days ago there were about 5943 events listed
in 183 countries, now there are 6227 events listed
in 185 contries.  This is more than there were
last October.

Gerry


Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> I am participating in the "Time for an Oil Change" event
> in Palo Alto.
>
> To see what events are in the area:
>
> http://www.350.org/map (for the world)
> http://www.350.org/map#/map/37.4/-122/9 (local)
>
> Gerry
>
>
> Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>> And for anyone who would like to do something from 10:00am until they
>> run out of paper goods, I am hosting a "Get out into the neighborhood
>> and encourage people to turn off their unneeded appliances" event. For
>> details, please call (408)530-0118).
>> Caroline
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Eric A. Meece <eameece at sfo.com>
>> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> *Sent:* Sat, October 2, 2010 10:19:38 AM
>> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10
>>
>> I would like Green Party folks to participate in 10/10/10, sponsored by
>> http://www.350.org. This is a chance to make climate change front and
>> center again. There's a demo from 4-8 @ Stevens Creek and Winchester. I
>> hope I'll see some of you there.
>> Eric Meece aka Eric the Green
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  5 14:45:45 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 14:45:45 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Daniel Ellsberg on KQED Channel 9 Tonight, 9:00 pm
Message-ID: <BAY140-W211A16C9DDEAB4EEAA0DA9E6D0@phx.gbl>



   The movie "The Most Dangerous Man in America" is a must-see tonight at 9:00, extremely
inspiring.

   The most impressive take-away for me was Dr. Ellsberg's statement that when he got his
security clearance he stopped listening to anyone who didn't have one, 'cause they just 
didn't know what was happening.

   Executive Producer was Code Pink's Jodie Evans.


   Ellsberg was signatory to the 9/11 Truth Statement of 2004 (the one Van Jones claimed
he was snookered into signing).


http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633

KQED writeup:


The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers


				
				Why would a dedicated Cold War strategist 
throw away his career, his friends and risk life in prison 
for a chance 
to help end the Vietnam War? In 1971, Daniel Ellsberg, a leading 
military planner, 
concluded that America's role in the war was based on 
decades of lies. He leaked the Pentagon 
Papers, 7000 pages of top-secret
 documents, to The New York Times, a daring act of conscience
 that led 
to Watergate, President Nixon's resignation and the end of the Vietnam 
War. "The Most
 Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the 
Pentagon Papers" is a tale told by Ellsberg 
with a who's who of Vietnam 
and Watergate-era figures.
				
				
					duration 1:56:46 
						   CC STEREO TVPG 
					





 		 	   		  
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From fredd at freeshell.org  Tue Oct  5 16:40:57 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 16:40:57 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Two Silicon Valley Events in Early October
Message-ID: <4CABB789.5010602@freeshell.org>

This PEACE EVENT at the Los Altos Public Library on Friday, October 8 (7 
pm), appears to be quite worthwhile.

Fred

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Subject: 	Two Silicon Valley Events in Early October
Date: 	Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:38:47 -0400 (EDT)
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Two important local events are coming up in early October.


October 8 Meeting Flyer 
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first is the first public meeting of the Silicon Valley Chapter of the 
Nuclear Age Peace Foundation.  It will be held at the Los Altos Library 
on Friday, October 8 at 7 PM.  We will present an overview of our plans 
for activities to rid the world of nuclear weapons, let you know about 
various ways in which you can participate, and give you an opportunity 
to meet others in the area concerned with these issues.

In addition, there will be an inspirational speaker.  We are privileged 
to have Paul Chappell from NAPF to speak to us on "How Peace is Possible 
and How We Can Achieve It."  Paul is a 2002 West Point graduate who 
served in Iraq and left active duty with the rank of Captain.  He 
currently serves as Peace Leadership Director for NAPF, and is the 
author of two books -- Will War Ever End? and The End of War.  If you 
have not heard Paul in person, be sure not to miss this opportunity.

What: First meeting of NAPF-SV
Who: Paul Chappell
Topic: How Peace is Possible and How We Can Achieve It
When: Friday, Oct. 8, 7:00 PM to 8:30 PM
Where: Los Altos Main Library, 13 S. San Antonio Road, Los Altos, CA
Cost: Free


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promote positive change in communities, countries and the world. That is 
why he is dedicating his life to teaching leadership skills for waging 
peace.  This will be a terrific opportunity to gain practical knowledge 
as well as inspiration in whatever you want to do with your life.

What: Peace Leadership Workshop
Who: Paul Chappell
Topic: Developing the skills needed to be effective in promoting 
positive change
When: Saturday, October 9, 10 AM to 3 PM
Where: Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto, 505 East Charleston 
Road, Palo Alto
Cost: There is a $15 suggested donation ($5 for students) but no one 
will be turned away for lack of funds. A light lunch will be provided at 
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Tue Oct  5 18:10:08 2010
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 21:10:08 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Is there a meeting tomorrow?  What is the agenda?
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So...  I missed the August meeting due to stress and  exhaustion and I 
missed the September meeting because my work day was so  distracting I forgot 
about it...
 
I have been catching up on old emails and see no agenda  proposal for an 
October 6th first Wednesday meeting....  What, if anything,  is planned?
 
Warner
 
 
 

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Oct  5 21:58:39 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 21:58:39 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Rally, Meeting Wed. Oct. 6  SF
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Peace Rally at Powell & Market 5 pm 


http://www.answercoalition.org/national/news/afghanistan-9th-anniversary-demos.html




Meeting at 6 pm, at UU Churrch, 1187 Franklin at Geary 
(1 mile west and 2 blocks n of Powell & Market)

http://www.uuba.org/upcoming.html

Speakers:

? Karel, Green960AM Radio Talk Show Host

? John Dennis, Republican Candidate, 8th Cong. District 

? Michael Eisenscher, US Labor Against the War 

? Daniel Ellsberg, Author and Activist 

? Angela Keaton, Antiwar . com


I met John Dennis at the Power to the Peaceful concert last month.  
He seems like a good old-fashioned antiwar conservative concerned 
about preserving the Constitution--like the original teapartiers were.

 		 	   		  
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Oct  5 23:55:37 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 23:55:37 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Is there a meeting tomorrow?  What is the agenda?
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We do plan to have a meeting tomorrow.

Post agenda items as a public reply to this thread. I'll make an agenda
tomorrow afternoon (this afternoon?) out of what I see here then.


-- 
Tian
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Latest change: Added an event writeup of Laura Wells for Governor!
The green horn fair trade icon is on a DC quarter (25c USA coin).


From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Wed Oct  6 07:58:11 2010
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Date: Wed,  6 Oct 2010 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Is there a meeting tomorrow?  What is the agenda?
Message-ID: <20101006145811.BA8366A9AA@truffula.sj.ca.us>


Last month it was just Susan, Valerie, and myself.
If there's no agenda and we don't expect anyone, is it
too late to cancel the meeting?
I have a 4:30 dentist appt in Los Altos Hills.  I expect
to be home by 6, but the traffic is unpredictable.
I can go downtown if you need someone to secure 48 S 7th,
but I can't hang around during this meeting.
So call me if you're down there waiting outside.

-Cameron





From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Oct  6 08:57:03 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:57:03 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Daniel Ellsberg on KQED Channel 9 Tonight, 9:00 pm
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References: <BAY140-W211A16C9DDEAB4EEAA0DA9E6D0@phx.gbl>
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  Common Cause celebrated its 40th anniversary (09/25/2010)  with a 
dinner and award presentation in honor of Ellsberg.  He was introduced 
by Pete McCloskey.   That introduction was much more enlightening for me 
than any other commentary that I have heard bandied about.

Watching on KQED last night, I was also aware of how much we miss having 
anyone like Dick Cavett on late night.  His Ellsberg, Kerry, Goldwater 
interviews were journalism at it's best.  A far cry from what purports 
to be journalism on FOX or MSNBC.


From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Oct  6 11:32:07 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:32:07 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Thoughts for discussion
Message-ID: <4CACC0A7.3020508@charter.net>

  Has anyone from GPSCC analyzed Santa Clara County Measure A?  It is 
called the Healthy Kids initiative.

I received my vote by mail ballot yesterday and my gut tells me that 
this is the right thing to do, but I don't know enough to be certain.


From fredd at freeshell.org  Wed Oct  6 14:31:54 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:31:54 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to
	Nowhere
Message-ID: <4CACEACA.2020906@freeshell.org>

Chris Hedges, the bold reformist, and Mark Stahl, of the United for 
Peace and Justice (ufpj) coalition activist" talk like they are looking 
over a cliff, with no place to go.  Why don't they pick out an active, 
independent  third party - preferably the Green  (How about it, Mark?) - 
and help recruit others?  Hedges, a well known progressive blogger, and 
Stahl another outspoken progressive, should look around and join a 
party, even though Ralph Nader hasn't.

The Green Party openly stands for most, if not all, of what they express.

In the spirit of peace, justice and open discussion,

Fred Duperrault

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Subject: 	[ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to Nowhere
Date: 	Wed, 6 Oct 2010 03:48:17 -0400
From: 	Mark Stahl <mcstahl3 at cox.net>
To: 	ufpj-activist <ufpj-activist at lists.mayfirst.org>



Attached below is an essay by Chris Hedges about the One Nation rally on 
10/2 which he refers to as the "March to Nowhere".  Following are my 
prefatory comments to his essay.

Overall, I think that participation by the peace/antiwar movement in the 
ONWT rally was a worthy experiment, but not a truly successful one, 
although I think there was benefit provided by the Peace Table/UNAC 
contingents and by the socialist contingent, which met in the late 
morning and marched to the main event.

Other than the Belafonte speech, however, there was very little 
peace/antiwar content at the main rally, with the exception of UAW 
president Bob King, who called for an end to the Iraq and Afghanistan 
wars.  Given the major escalations in Afghanistan and Pakistan, any 
truly liberal/progressive rally should have had a major focus on ending 
the wars.  Nor was there much emphasis on Guantanamo or the steady 
erosion of civil liberties in this country.

We know why the rally did not seriously address such critical issues as 
the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, the erosion of civil 
liberties, or the growing role of corporate interests:  because the 
Obama administration and the Democratic Congress have not only 
maintained the policies of the Bush administration, but in many cases 
they are actually worse than Bush, including the steady escalation of 
the drone war in Pakistan.

Yet, the major purpose of the rally was to encourage people to vote for 
Democrats on November 2.   Since the Obama administration is weak to 
catastrophic on virtually every major issue, they had no choice but to 
avoid any serious challenges to the party in power on these critical issues.

Only a movement which is independent of the major political parties, 
committed to a strong platform of immediate withdrawal from all foreign 
wars and occupations, and prepared to address issues of global 
imperialism and economic collapse, will be able to mobilize people 
effectively for the kind of radical changes necessary to move our 
society forward in the face of a growing reactionary trend in our public 
institutions.  The article by Chris Hedges follows.


Mark Stahl
Providence


  March to Nowhere


            Posted on Oct 5, 2010

By Chris Hedges

We can hold One Nation marches every week. It will not make any 
difference until we revolt against the formal structures of power.

The liberal preoccupation with positive forms of propaganda ignores the 
root of our problem. The tea party and hate mongers on Fox such as Glenn 
Beck, however repugnant, are the manifestation of the crisis, not its 
cause. The forces assaulting the remnants of American democracy will not 
be cowed or discredited with rallies, such as the one in Washington on 
Saturday. We will blunt these rising anti-democratic forces only when we 
organize outside conventional systems of power. It means dismantling the 
permanent war economy and the corporate state. It means an end to 
foreclosures and bank repossessions. It means a functional health care 
system for all Americans. It means taking care of our poor and 
unemployed. And it means a system of government that is freed from 
corporate interests.

Mass support for anti-democratic movements and public acceptance of open 
violations of human rights are not caused, in the end, by the skillful 
dissemination of misinformation or brainwashing. They are caused by the 
breakdown of a society and the death of a liberal class that once made 
reform and representative government possible. The timidity of our 
liberal class was on public display during the march in Washington. 
Speakers may have called for jobs, but none would call on citizens to 
abandon the rotting hull of the Democratic Party and our moribund 
political system or put Wall Street speculators in prison. The speakers 
at the rally proposed working within the current electoral system, 
although most Americans are aware that it has been gamed by corporate 
interests. This is hardly a call, especially given the failures of the 
Obama administration, that will fire up the unemployed and underemployed.

?We need jobs,? the Rev. Al Sharpton said at the march. ?We?ve bailed 
out the banks. We bailed out the insurance companies. Now it?s time to 
bail out the American people.?

But Sharpton and the other speakers, too close to the power elite in the 
Democratic Party, did not call for rebellion. There was no war cry 
against Wall Street and the purveyors of death in the defense and health 
industry. There was no acknowledgement that unfettered capitalism and 
globalization are killing our ecosystem and creating a worldwide system 
of neo-feudalism. There was no acceptance that the corporate state must 
be dismantled if we are to save ourselves. Any effective resistance must 
begin with a condemnation of our political elite and liberal 
institutions, including the press, the universities, labor, the arts, 
religious institutions and the Democratic Party, for selling us out. But 
the speakers on the mall in Washington would not go there. And I 
suspect, for this reason, the Americans who are hurting most found 
nothing they said of interest.

All totalitarian movements, even those that are openly criminal, succeed 
because they have widespread mass support. They are the expression of a 
yearning that sweeps through a nation that has been convulsed by 
economic dislocation, a loss of hope and flagrant political corruption. 
And in these times of lament and deprivation the absurdities, crimes and 
excesses of reactionary forces do not matter. It wasn?t hard to find out 
what Slobodan Milosevic was doing in Bosnia. It wasn?t hard in Nazi 
Germany to hear about the widespread massacres of Jews in Poland. It is 
not a secret to most Americans that Muslim detainees, held for years 
without charges, are tortured in black sites around the world. The 
murder of tens of thousands of civilians by our forces in Iraq, 
Afghanistan and Pakistan is tacitly acknowledged by the public as the 
price of war. The massive human suffering in the open-air prison that is 
Gaza is not a mystery. We know what happens to the millions of 
undocumented workers who live as stateless citizens among us and have 
become a kind of modern day slave labor force.

The rising proto-fascist movement in America is caused by a hatred and 
alienation so profound that the crimes of the state, along with the 
buffoonish antics of those who defend and champion these crimes, do not 
matter. We will not discredit the right-wing with facts, a demand for a 
respect of law or rational discussion. Propaganda or counter messages of 
tolerance are not the issue. The issue is societal collapse. This issue 
is a corporate state that has carried out a coup d?etat. The issue is 
the rupture of all mechanisms within the political process to protect 
citizens from accelerating impoverishment, internal control and 
corporate abuse. Those who refuse to acknowledge this bleak reality 
cannot offer solutions.

The right-wing propagandists have not created the problem. They have 
tapped into the moral void that has left tens of millions of Americans 
yearning for a profound and radical change. And if torture, war, racist 
attacks on immigrants, gays and Muslims, along with increased repression 
against internal dissidents, is the price for moral and economic 
renewal, many Americans are ready to sign on. If those who lead this 
rising proto-fascist movement insist on a Christian nation, teach 
creationism and believe in the physical existence of Satan, many 
Americans will sign on for this too. Hatred, when mobilized, is a very 
effective political force. And hatred, including the hatred for a 
liberal class that abandoned the working class, is what we face.

The decimation of our working class through outsourcing and 
globalization dynamited two of the most important props of the 
democratic system?class consciousness and class conflict. This has left 
traditional political parties, which once represented differing class 
interests, with nothing to offer the public beyond fringe issues such as 
abortion or gay marriage. Those in the liberal class who cling to the 
corpse of the Democratic Party do so not because they believe in the 
policies of the party?it does not differ in any significant way from the 
Republican Party?but because they hope against hope that the party will 
somehow restore itself to its former position as a defender of liberal 
values and the working class interests. It is the politics of nostalgia.

Our political theater has orphaned citizens who once looked to political 
parties to express and defend their interests. It has engendered apathy 
toward traditional social and political structures and an inchoate rage. 
This mixture of apathy and rage is a volatile cocktail. It finds its 
expression outside normal systems of dissent and in leaders who, in 
times of prosperity and stability, would be dismissed as lunatics.

No rally, no positive message, no effort to expose the idiocies of those 
arrayed against us will work until we restore to the political process 
mechanisms by which ordinary citizens can be heard. Hannah Arendt in 
?The Origins of Totalitarianism? cites the collapse of traditional 
political mechanisms, which now plagues us, as the opening needed for 
all totalitarian movements:

?The fall of protecting class walls transformed the slumbering 
majorities behind all parties into one great unorganized, structureless 
mass of furious individuals who had nothing in common except their vague 
apprehension that the hopes of party members were doomed, that, 
consequently, the most respected, articulate and representative members 
of the community were fools and that all the powers that be were not so 
much evil as they were equally stupid and fraudulent.?

The One Nation March in Washington, which lacked moral and political 
courage, did nothing to educate or rally our most important 
constituency?those out of work, those being foreclosed, those without 
hope. It refused to confront the real, corporate structures of power. It 
refused to disown Barack Obama and the Democrats. And in the end it only 
confirmed what those who hate us think of liberals.

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/march_to_nowhere_20101005/


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct  6 15:09:34 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:09:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] meeting agenda items
Message-ID: <4CACF39E.3050902@sbcglobal.net>

What has Laura Wells inspired you to do?
Contacting four new people from Laura's talk -
especially joint tasks they can perform.
Immigration as an entry to hispanics, etc...
What can we do for those who might have an interest in us?
Talk SJSU by environmental resource center.
Talk by the branch manager of the bank where we bank.
Talk by an Iraq vet with PTSD.
GOTV.
Leafletting.
October 12 "Green" debate in San Rafael.
Tabling.
Youth brigades.
Participate in Caroline's 10/10 event.
spread the word re CA Green Party positions on ballot measures
Mentoring future candidates.

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct  6 15:20:34 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:20:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Oct 12 debate & Laura Wells
Message-ID: <4CACF632.3030208@sbcglobal.net>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. 
For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting,
please do not hit reply.  Follow the contact directions  stated in the 
email.
---------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Green leaders,

Please join us in Marin County next week for two events supporting the
Laura Wells for Governor campaign.

On Saturday 10/9, we are hosting a Open Debates brunch party for Laura
in Fairfax.  Fairfax is the only town in California with a Green Mayor,
Green Vice Mayor and a Green majority on the town council.  The lunch is
taking place at the home of Fairfax Vice Mayor Larry Bragman.

On Tuesday 10/12, we are organizing an Open Debates protest with Laura in
San Rafael.  Meg Whitman and Jerry Brown were invited to participate.
Laura Wells, our Green Party candidate for Governor of California, has
been excluded.

Contact me if you have any questions about the event.  We'd love your
volunteer help.  Below is a list of some of the tasks you could help us
accomplish this week.

Peace,
Marnie Glickman
Co-chair, Marin Green Party County Council
www.maringreens.org <http://www.maringreens.org/>



_*WHAT YOU CAN DO TO SUPPORT LAURA WELLS
FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA THIS WEEK*_

1) View, download and distribute the 10/12 Open Debates Protest with
Laura Wells flyer at
http://maringreens.org/2010/10/volunteer-share-the-1012-open-debates-protest-flyer/. 


2) Pick up your telephone.  Invite a friend or more to join you at the
events in Marin on 10/9 and 10/12.

3) Write a letter to the editor supporting open debates and Laura Wells.
http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1488/letter/?letter_KEY=688

4) RSVP and invite people to our Facebook page for the 10/9 Open Debates
Brunch with Laura Wells in Fairfax.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=152835714744767&ref=ts
<http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=152835714744767&ref=ts>

5) RSVP and invite people to our Facebook page for the 10/12 Open
Debates Protest with Laura Wells in San Rafael.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=116834535041877&ref=mf
<http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=116834535041877&ref=mf>

6)  Make a donation to the Laura Wells for Governor campaign.
www.laurawells.org <http://www.laurawells.org/>

7) Check for event updates at our new Marin Greens website.
http://www.maringreens.org <http://www.maringreens.org/>

8) Send information about the events to your friends and family by email.





From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Oct  7 01:26:25 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:26:25 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Illinois Greens get counterpunch praise]
Message-ID: <4CAD8431.10609@aceweb.com>


-------- Original Message --------

Subject: 	[G-C-F] Illinois Greens get counterpunch praise
Date: 	Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Kalmran Alavi <calm_ron at yahoo.com>
To: 	cal-forum at cagreens.org

I received the following URL from Bob Scofield, a Yolo Green
who also wrote that a Green candidate for state legislator
has received endorsement of Chicago Tribune.

http://www.counterpunch.org/halle10052010.html

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added an event writeup of Laura Wells for Governor!
The green horn fair trade icon is on a GU quarter (25c USA coin).
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From jamboi at rachel.greens.org  Thu Oct  7 09:22:49 2010
From: jamboi at rachel.greens.org (jamboi at rachel.greens.org)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC General Meeting
Message-ID: <56120.69.236.163.254.1286468569.squirrel@www.greens.org>

Present: Caroline Yaccoub, Merriam,Merriam Kathaleen, Warner Bloomberg,
Tian Harter, Jim Doyle, Jim Stauffer, Fred Duperault, Drew Johnson
Roles: Facilitator Tian; Notetaker: Drew; Fred: Timekeeper; Vibes: Warner

10/6/10  7:30pm
Intro/Announcements:
Fred: petitions re: Livermore Lab, article on mayor of Richmond
Drew is offering Ubuntu Gnu/Linux support
Warner: its now the year 5771 on Jewish calender
Caroline: recovering from broken leg, doing 350.org event on 10/10/10

Treasurer's report: $2492

Tabling literature:
 3 items designed by Valerie, printed by Tian,
   theme: cutting carbon footprint; Caroline funds ?, GPSCC pays ?
 2 bundles of Green Focus: Tian will get

Tabling Events:
+ Replacement canopy: Tian will look, Drew will donate one if still available
+ Junior State: Jim Doyle 3rd Sat, Nov: Jim Doyle will be contact
+ Holiday Peace Fair: 1st Sat Dec : Merriam, Caroline, possibly Drew
+ Mtn View Farmer's Market: Tian

Coalition for a Downtown Hospital
 County working on medical clinic. 17th and Santa Clara, demolition
started on hospital.  County in driver's seat.

REPORT ON PLENARY in Fullerton, Orange Co. September 10-12: Jim Stauffer
+ Good plenary,  40-50 people.  not too many bus items,  req. for
committee membership, platform planks.

+ Saturday night's special speaker: Pat LaMarche (GP-US 2004 VP nominee)
Topic: Green activism--at the polls, in the workplace, in our homes. A
single mother, Pat can also spoke to critical importance of Green Party
message of Feminism and youth rights.  Event included:
Video presentation; "On the Edge", applauded, pre-release documentary on
homelessness.
Pat LaMarche, and selected Green Party candidates spoke.

+ Also another great presentation, re: ?feed-in tariff? - producing and
feeding extra power back into the grid.
Facilities okay,  though dance studio overhead.
Presentation of candidates, election, not much press.

Need for strategy meeting.  GPCA has never had a comprehensive strategy
+ Possible format: Gathering event, but focused on strategy.
+ Central location?  Fresno?
+ Distributed event? Several satellite locations.  Trying to boost
participation.
+ CC needs to structure it.  Late Jan early Feb
+ Laura Well's strategy: ongoing campaign towards 2012, Merriam suggests
supporting her strategy
+ Tian: suggests shifting from political party strategy to working on
movement strategy

GP VISIBILITY:
Get GPCA recommendations for propositions into the press: Fred
fred: news release, SJ Merc got it already, but we'll target local papers
Jim S. will forward to discussion list, Caroline or Drew will send to
Sunnyvale, Fred to Mtn View
Dana and Gerry: PA, Merriam Campbell

Jim Doyle: ideas for following up on those that came to see Laura Wells:
Thanks for participating; what we do, tabling, what they could see
themselves contributing, state committees

CHOSEN VISIBILITY PROJECT: GP recycling DVDs; Fred, Merriam, Jim Stauffer

Visibility Brainstorming:
+ Public events, demonstrating at SJ Merc, Metro re: not covering GP
candidates
+ Farmer's market tabling.
+ Participating in other local green groups and pointing out our Green
Party affiliation
+ List of registered Greens, survey, track answers, reach out.  3 questions
+ Advertising, on-line
+ Ads on cable
+ VTA stops
+ Highway cleanup
+ Caroline: discussed a recent MoveOn event and what she learned from it.


POTENTIAL SPEAKERS :  Jim Doyle will pursue
+ Iraq vet with PTSD in time for Veterans Day
+ Rainforest Action Network v banks
+ banking issues
 state banks: Laura Wells has brought up the issue
 Federal reserve
+ Immigration and other relevant topics to Latino community
 Coalition for Secure Communities (v ICE)
 MACLA\
Environmental resource center

Demonstration at faux  ?Green Debate? 10/12/

9:17 meeting adjourned



From mcstahl3 at cox.net  Wed Oct  6 23:00:31 2010
From: mcstahl3 at cox.net (Mark Stahl)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 02:00:31 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to Nowhere
References: <4CACEACA.2020906@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <041301cb65e4$f337a450$6401a8c0@HOMESYSTEM>

Fred, please forward to your list.

As a former member of the radical community at Berkeley, Greetings to comrades in South SF Bay.

I am not really affiliated with UFPJ other than as our group's representative on the UFPJ listservs, so I don't speak for UFPJ.

I'm not sure if am looking over a cliff, just trying to reach the next mountain over the empty chasm of our current political life.

I am really more of a radical than a progressive, but I will cop to being outspoken, it comes from having been a Spock baby.

Thanks for the invitation, I am looking for a party to join and will keep the Green Party in mind when I make my selection.

Good luck with your activism.  I heard Ralph might be running again on the Green party ticket, believe it or not I knew his sister Laura.

Take care and thanks for your message.


Mark


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: fred 
  To: South SF Bay Discuss at CA Greens 
  Cc: Mark Stahl 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:31 PM
  Subject: Fwd: [ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to Nowhere


  Chris Hedges, the bold reformist, and Mark Stahl, of the United for Peace and Justice (ufpj) coalition activist" talk like they are looking over a cliff, with no place to go.  Why don't they pick out an active, independent  third party - preferably the Green  (How about it, Mark?) - and help recruit others?  Hedges, a well known progressive blogger, and Stahl another outspoken progressive, should look around and join a party, even though Ralph Nader hasn't. 

  The Green Party openly stands for most, if not all, of what they express.

  In the spirit of peace, justice and open discussion,

  Fred Duperrault

  -------- Original Message -------- Subject:  [ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to Nowhere 
        Date:  Wed, 6 Oct 2010 03:48:17 -0400 
        From:  Mark Stahl <mcstahl3 at cox.net> 
        To:  ufpj-activist <ufpj-activist at lists.mayfirst.org> 



  Attached below is an essay by Chris Hedges about the One Nation rally on 10/2 which he refers to as the "March to Nowhere".  Following are my prefatory comments to his essay.

  Overall, I think that participation by the peace/antiwar movement in the ONWT rally was a worthy experiment, but not a truly successful one, although I think there was benefit provided by the Peace Table/UNAC contingents and by the socialist contingent, which met in the late morning and marched to the main event.

  Other than the Belafonte speech, however, there was very little peace/antiwar content at the main rally, with the exception of UAW president Bob King, who called for an end to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.  Given the major escalations in Afghanistan and Pakistan, any truly liberal/progressive rally should have had a major focus on ending the wars.  Nor was there much emphasis on Guantanamo or the steady erosion of civil liberties in this country.

  We know why the rally did not seriously address such critical issues as the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, the erosion of civil liberties, or the growing role of corporate interests:  because the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress have not only maintained the policies of the Bush administration, but in many cases they are actually worse than Bush, including the steady escalation of the drone war in Pakistan.

  Yet, the major purpose of the rally was to encourage people to vote for Democrats on November 2.   Since the Obama administration is weak to catastrophic on virtually every major issue, they had no choice but to avoid any serious challenges to the party in power on these critical issues.

  Only a movement which is independent of the major political parties, committed to a strong platform of immediate withdrawal from all foreign wars and occupations, and prepared to address issues of global imperialism and economic collapse, will be able to mobilize people effectively for the kind of radical changes necessary to move our society forward in the face of a growing reactionary trend in our public institutions.  The article by Chris Hedges follows.


  Mark Stahl
  Providence

  March to Nowhere
  Posted on Oct 5, 2010
  By Chris Hedges

  We can hold One Nation marches every week. It will not make any difference until we revolt against the formal structures of power. 

  The liberal preoccupation with positive forms of propaganda ignores the root of our problem. The tea party and hate mongers on Fox such as Glenn Beck, however repugnant, are the manifestation of the crisis, not its cause. The forces assaulting the remnants of American democracy will not be cowed or discredited with rallies, such as the one in Washington on Saturday. We will blunt these rising anti-democratic forces only when we organize outside conventional systems of power. It means dismantling the permanent war economy and the corporate state. It means an end to foreclosures and bank repossessions. It means a functional health care system for all Americans. It means taking care of our poor and unemployed. And it means a system of government that is freed from corporate interests. 

  Mass support for anti-democratic movements and public acceptance of open violations of human rights are not caused, in the end, by the skillful dissemination of misinformation or brainwashing. They are caused by the breakdown of a society and the death of a liberal class that once made reform and representative government possible. The timidity of our liberal class was on public display during the march in Washington. Speakers may have called for jobs, but none would call on citizens to abandon the rotting hull of the Democratic Party and our moribund political system or put Wall Street speculators in prison. The speakers at the rally proposed working within the current electoral system, although most Americans are aware that it has been gamed by corporate interests. This is hardly a call, especially given the failures of the Obama administration, that will fire up the unemployed and underemployed.  

  "We need jobs," the Rev. Al Sharpton said at the march. "We've bailed out the banks. We bailed out the insurance companies. Now it's time to bail out the American people."

  But Sharpton and the other speakers, too close to the power elite in the Democratic Party, did not call for rebellion. There was no war cry against Wall Street and the purveyors of death in the defense and health industry. There was no acknowledgement that unfettered capitalism and globalization are killing our ecosystem and creating a worldwide system of neo-feudalism. There was no acceptance that the corporate state must be dismantled if we are to save ourselves. Any effective resistance must begin with a condemnation of our political elite and liberal institutions, including the press, the universities, labor, the arts, religious institutions and the Democratic Party, for selling us out. But the speakers on the mall in Washington would not go there. And I suspect, for this reason, the Americans who are hurting most found nothing they said of interest.

  All totalitarian movements, even those that are openly criminal, succeed because they have widespread mass support. They are the expression of a yearning that sweeps through a nation that has been convulsed by economic dislocation, a loss of hope and flagrant political corruption. And in these times of lament and deprivation the absurdities, crimes and excesses of reactionary forces do not matter. It wasn't hard to find out what Slobodan Milosevic was doing in Bosnia. It wasn't hard in Nazi Germany to hear about the widespread massacres of Jews in Poland. It is not a secret to most Americans that Muslim detainees, held for years without charges, are tortured in black sites around the world. The murder of tens of thousands of civilians by our forces in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan is tacitly acknowledged by the public as the price of war. The massive human suffering in the open-air prison that is Gaza is not a mystery. We know what happens to the millions of undocumented workers who live as stateless citizens among us and have become a kind of modern day slave labor force. 

  The rising proto-fascist movement in America is caused by a hatred and alienation so profound that the crimes of the state, along with the buffoonish antics of those who defend and champion these crimes, do not matter. We will not discredit the right-wing with facts, a demand for a respect of law or rational discussion. Propaganda or counter messages of tolerance are not the issue. The issue is societal collapse. This issue is a corporate state that has carried out a coup d'etat. The issue is the rupture of all mechanisms within the political process to protect citizens from accelerating impoverishment, internal control and corporate abuse. Those who refuse to acknowledge this bleak reality cannot offer solutions. 

  The right-wing propagandists have not created the problem. They have tapped into the moral void that has left tens of millions of Americans yearning for a profound and radical change. And if torture, war, racist attacks on immigrants, gays and Muslims, along with increased repression against internal dissidents, is the price for moral and economic renewal, many Americans are ready to sign on. If those who lead this rising proto-fascist movement insist on a Christian nation, teach creationism and believe in the physical existence of Satan, many Americans will sign on for this too. Hatred, when mobilized, is a very effective political force. And hatred, including the hatred for a liberal class that abandoned the working class, is what we face. 

  The decimation of our working class through outsourcing and globalization dynamited two of the most important props of the democratic system-class consciousness and class conflict. This has left traditional political parties, which once represented differing class interests, with nothing to offer the public beyond fringe issues such as abortion or gay marriage. Those in the liberal class who cling to the corpse of the Democratic Party do so not because they believe in the policies of the party-it does not differ in any significant way from the Republican Party-but because they hope against hope that the party will somehow restore itself to its former position as a defender of liberal values and the working class interests. It is the politics of nostalgia.  

  Our political theater has orphaned citizens who once looked to political parties to express and defend their interests. It has engendered apathy toward traditional social and political structures and an inchoate rage. This mixture of apathy and rage is a volatile cocktail. It finds its expression outside normal systems of dissent and in leaders who, in times of prosperity and stability, would be dismissed as lunatics.  

  No rally, no positive message, no effort to expose the idiocies of those arrayed against us will work until we restore to the political process mechanisms by which ordinary citizens can be heard. Hannah Arendt in "The Origins of Totalitarianism" cites the collapse of traditional political mechanisms, which now plagues us, as the opening needed for all totalitarian movements: 

  "The fall of protecting class walls transformed the slumbering majorities behind all parties into one great unorganized, structureless mass of furious individuals who had nothing in common except their vague apprehension that the hopes of party members were doomed, that, consequently, the most respected, articulate and representative members of the community were fools and that all the powers that be were not so much evil as they were equally stupid and fraudulent."

  The One Nation March in Washington, which lacked moral and political courage, did nothing to educate or rally our most important constituency-those out of work, those being foreclosed, those without hope. It refused to confront the real, corporate structures of power. It refused to disown Barack Obama and the Democrats. And in the end it only confirmed what those who hate us think of liberals. 

  http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/march_to_nowhere_20101005/


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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Oct  7 11:40:21 2010
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC General Meeting
In-Reply-To: <56120.69.236.163.254.1286468569.squirrel@www.greens.org>
References: <56120.69.236.163.254.1286468569.squirrel@www.greens.org>
Message-ID: <611494.52719.qm@web81207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Nicely done. Welcome back.
?Caroline




________________________________
From: "jamboi at rachel.greens.org" <jamboi at rachel.greens.org>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 9:22:49 AM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC General Meeting

Present: Caroline Yaccoub, Merriam,Merriam Kathaleen, Warner Bloomberg,
Tian Harter, Jim Doyle, Jim Stauffer, Fred Duperault, Drew Johnson
Roles: Facilitator Tian; Notetaker: Drew; Fred: Timekeeper; Vibes: Warner

10/6/10? 7:30pm
Intro/Announcements:
Fred: petitions re: Livermore Lab, article on mayor of Richmond
Drew is offering Ubuntu Gnu/Linux support
Warner: its now the year 5771 on Jewish calender
Caroline: recovering from broken leg, doing 350.org event on 10/10/10

Treasurer's report: $2492

Tabling literature:
3 items designed by Valerie, printed by Tian,
? theme: cutting carbon footprint; Caroline funds ?, GPSCC pays ?
2 bundles of Green Focus: Tian will get

Tabling Events:
+ Replacement canopy: Tian will look, Drew will donate one if still available
+ Junior State: Jim Doyle 3rd Sat, Nov: Jim Doyle will be contact
+ Holiday Peace Fair: 1st Sat Dec : Merriam, Caroline, possibly Drew
+ Mtn View Farmer's Market: Tian

Coalition for a Downtown Hospital
County working on medical clinic. 17th and Santa Clara, demolition
started on hospital.? County in driver's seat.

REPORT ON PLENARY in Fullerton, Orange Co. September 10-12: Jim Stauffer
+ Good plenary,? 40-50 people.? not too many bus items,? req. for
committee membership, platform planks.

+ Saturday night's special speaker: Pat LaMarche (GP-US 2004 VP nominee)
Topic: Green activism--at the polls, in the workplace, in our homes. A
single mother, Pat can also spoke to critical importance of Green Party
message of Feminism and youth rights.? Event included:
Video presentation; "On the Edge", applauded, pre-release documentary on
homelessness.
Pat LaMarche, and selected Green Party candidates spoke.

+ Also another great presentation, re: ?feed-in tariff? - producing and
feeding extra power back into the grid.
Facilities okay,? though dance studio overhead.
Presentation of candidates, election, not much press.

Need for strategy meeting.? GPCA has never had a comprehensive strategy
+ Possible format: Gathering event, but focused on strategy.
+ Central location?? Fresno?
+ Distributed event? Several satellite locations.? Trying to boost
participation.
+ CC needs to structure it.? Late Jan early Feb
+ Laura Well's strategy: ongoing campaign towards 2012, Merriam suggests
supporting her strategy
+ Tian: suggests shifting from political party strategy to working on
movement strategy

GP VISIBILITY:
Get GPCA recommendations for propositions into the press: Fred
fred: news release, SJ Merc got it already, but we'll target local papers
Jim S. will forward to discussion list, Caroline or Drew will send to
Sunnyvale, Fred to Mtn View
Dana and Gerry: PA, Merriam Campbell

Jim Doyle: ideas for following up on those that came to see Laura Wells:
Thanks for participating; what we do, tabling, what they could see
themselves contributing, state committees

CHOSEN VISIBILITY PROJECT: GP recycling DVDs; Fred, Merriam, Jim Stauffer

Visibility Brainstorming:
+ Public events, demonstrating at SJ Merc, Metro re: not covering GP
candidates
+ Farmer's market tabling.
+ Participating in other local green groups and pointing out our Green
Party affiliation
+ List of registered Greens, survey, track answers, reach out.? 3 questions
+ Advertising, on-line
+ Ads on cable
+ VTA stops
+ Highway cleanup
+ Caroline: discussed a recent MoveOn event and what she learned from it.


POTENTIAL SPEAKERS :? Jim Doyle will pursue
+ Iraq vet with PTSD in time for Veterans Day
+ Rainforest Action Network v banks
+ banking issues
state banks: Laura Wells has brought up the issue
Federal reserve
+ Immigration and other relevant topics to Latino community
Coalition for Secure Communities (v ICE)
MACLA\
Environmental resource center

Demonstration at faux? ?Green Debate? 10/12/

9:17 meeting adjourned

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu Oct  7 15:44:54 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 15:44:54 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to Nowhere
In-Reply-To: <041301cb65e4$f337a450$6401a8c0@HOMESYSTEM>
References: <4CACEACA.2020906@freeshell.org>
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Message-ID: <4CAE4D66.8020802@freeshell.org>

Thanks for your reply, Mark.

During the first half of the past century there was a Progressive Party 
in Wisconsin.
In fact, the late U. S. Sen. Gaylord Nelson got his start as a 
Progressive.  Also, I believe the Progressives in Wisconsin made it 
possible for the development of cooperatives.

In a nutshell and in general,  I consider a "progressive" as one whose 
priorities are based on social, economic and political justice versus 
the dominant empowerment of those who resist the enactment of 
regulations developed to guarantee living wages and equal rights for all -
and who feel corporations must have political rights equal to those of 
persons.

Right on,

Fred

On 10/6/10 11:00 PM, Mark Stahl wrote:
> Fred, please forward to your list.
> As a former member of the radical community at Berkeley, Greetings to 
> comrades in South SF Bay.
> I am not really affiliated with UFPJ other than as our group's 
> representative on the UFPJ listservs, so I don't speak for UFPJ.
> I'm not sure if am looking over a cliff, just trying to reach the next 
> mountain over the empty chasm of our current political life.
> I am really more of a radical than a progressive, but I will cop to 
> being outspoken, it comes from having been a Spock baby.
> Thanks for the invitation, I am looking for a party to join and will 
> keep the Green Party in mind when I make my selection.
> Good luck with your activism.  I heard Ralph might be running again on 
> the Green party ticket, believe it or not I knew his sister Laura.
> Take care and thanks for your message.
> Mark
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* fred <mailto:fredd at freeshell.org>
>     *To:* South SF Bay Discuss at CA Greens
>     <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     *Cc:* Mark Stahl <mailto:mcstahl3 at cox.net>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:31 PM
>     *Subject:* Fwd: [ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to Nowhere
>
>     Chris Hedges, the bold reformist, and Mark Stahl, of the United
>     for Peace and Justice (ufpj) coalition activist" talk like they
>     are looking over a cliff, with no place to go.  Why don't they
>     pick out an active, independent  third party - preferably the
>     Green  (How about it, Mark?) - and help recruit others?  Hedges, a
>     well known progressive blogger, and Stahl another outspoken
>     progressive, should look around and join a party, even though
>     Ralph Nader hasn't.
>
>     The Green Party openly stands for most, if not all, of what they
>     express.
>
>     In the spirit of peace, justice and open discussion,
>
>     Fred Duperrault
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: 	[ufpj-activist] Chris Hedges: ONWT March to Nowhere
>     Date: 	Wed, 6 Oct 2010 03:48:17 -0400
>     From: 	Mark Stahl <mcstahl3 at cox.net>
>     To: 	ufpj-activist <ufpj-activist at lists.mayfirst.org>
>
>
>
>     Attached below is an essay by Chris Hedges about the One Nation
>     rally on 10/2 which he refers to as the "March to Nowhere". 
>     Following are my prefatory comments to his essay.
>
>     Overall, I think that participation by the peace/antiwar movement
>     in the ONWT rally was a worthy experiment, but not a truly
>     successful one, although I think there was benefit provided by the
>     Peace Table/UNAC contingents and by the socialist contingent,
>     which met in the late morning and marched to the main event.
>
>     Other than the Belafonte speech, however, there was very little
>     peace/antiwar content at the main rally, with the exception of UAW
>     president Bob King, who called for an end to the Iraq and
>     Afghanistan wars.  Given the major escalations in Afghanistan and
>     Pakistan, any truly liberal/progressive rally should have had a
>     major focus on ending the wars.  Nor was there much emphasis on
>     Guantanamo or the steady erosion of civil liberties in this country.
>
>     We know why the rally did not seriously address such critical
>     issues as the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, the erosion
>     of civil liberties, or the growing role of corporate interests: 
>     because the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress have
>     not only maintained the policies of the Bush administration, but
>     in many cases they are actually worse than Bush, including the
>     steady escalation of the drone war in Pakistan.
>
>     Yet, the major purpose of the rally was to encourage people to
>     vote for Democrats on November 2.   Since the Obama administration
>     is weak to catastrophic on virtually every major issue, they had
>     no choice but to avoid any serious challenges to the party in
>     power on these critical issues.
>
>     Only a movement which is independent of the major political
>     parties, committed to a strong platform of immediate withdrawal
>     from all foreign wars and occupations, and prepared to address
>     issues of global imperialism and economic collapse, will be able
>     to mobilize people effectively for the kind of radical changes
>     necessary to move our society forward in the face of a growing
>     reactionary trend in our public institutions.  The article by
>     Chris Hedges follows.
>
>
>     Mark Stahl
>     Providence
>
>
>       March to Nowhere
>
>
>                 Posted on Oct 5, 2010
>
>     By Chris Hedges
>
>     We can hold One Nation marches every week. It will not make any
>     difference until we revolt against the formal structures of power.
>
>     The liberal preoccupation with positive forms of propaganda
>     ignores the root of our problem. The tea party and hate mongers on
>     Fox such as Glenn Beck, however repugnant, are the manifestation
>     of the crisis, not its cause. The forces assaulting the remnants
>     of American democracy will not be cowed or discredited with
>     rallies, such as the one in Washington on Saturday. We will blunt
>     these rising anti-democratic forces only when we organize outside
>     conventional systems of power. It means dismantling the permanent
>     war economy and the corporate state. It means an end to
>     foreclosures and bank repossessions. It means a functional health
>     care system for all Americans. It means taking care of our poor
>     and unemployed. And it means a system of government that is freed
>     from corporate interests.
>
>     Mass support for anti-democratic movements and public acceptance
>     of open violations of human rights are not caused, in the end, by
>     the skillful dissemination of misinformation or brainwashing. They
>     are caused by the breakdown of a society and the death of a
>     liberal class that once made reform and representative government
>     possible. The timidity of our liberal class was on public display
>     during the march in Washington. Speakers may have called for jobs,
>     but none would call on citizens to abandon the rotting hull of the
>     Democratic Party and our moribund political system or put Wall
>     Street speculators in prison. The speakers at the rally proposed
>     working within the current electoral system, although most
>     Americans are aware that it has been gamed by corporate interests.
>     This is hardly a call, especially given the failures of the Obama
>     administration, that will fire up the unemployed and underemployed.
>
>     "We need jobs," the Rev. Al Sharpton said at the march. "We've
>     bailed out the banks. We bailed out the insurance companies. Now
>     it's time to bail out the American people."
>
>     But Sharpton and the other speakers, too close to the power elite
>     in the Democratic Party, did not call for rebellion. There was no
>     war cry against Wall Street and the purveyors of death in the
>     defense and health industry. There was no acknowledgement that
>     unfettered capitalism and globalization are killing our ecosystem
>     and creating a worldwide system of neo-feudalism. There was no
>     acceptance that the corporate state must be dismantled if we are
>     to save ourselves. Any effective resistance must begin with a
>     condemnation of our political elite and liberal institutions,
>     including the press, the universities, labor, the arts, religious
>     institutions and the Democratic Party, for selling us out. But the
>     speakers on the mall in Washington would not go there. And I
>     suspect, for this reason, the Americans who are hurting most found
>     nothing they said of interest.
>
>     All totalitarian movements, even those that are openly criminal,
>     succeed because they have widespread mass support. They are the
>     expression of a yearning that sweeps through a nation that has
>     been convulsed by economic dislocation, a loss of hope and
>     flagrant political corruption. And in these times of lament and
>     deprivation the absurdities, crimes and excesses of reactionary
>     forces do not matter. It wasn't hard to find out what Slobodan
>     Milosevic was doing in Bosnia. It wasn't hard in Nazi Germany to
>     hear about the widespread massacres of Jews in Poland. It is not a
>     secret to most Americans that Muslim detainees, held for years
>     without charges, are tortured in black sites around the world. The
>     murder of tens of thousands of civilians by our forces in Iraq,
>     Afghanistan and Pakistan is tacitly acknowledged by the public as
>     the price of war. The massive human suffering in the open-air
>     prison that is Gaza is not a mystery. We know what happens to the
>     millions of undocumented workers who live as stateless citizens
>     among us and have become a kind of modern day slave labor force.
>
>     The rising proto-fascist movement in America is caused by a hatred
>     and alienation so profound that the crimes of the state, along
>     with the buffoonish antics of those who defend and champion these
>     crimes, do not matter. We will not discredit the right-wing with
>     facts, a demand for a respect of law or rational discussion.
>     Propaganda or counter messages of tolerance are not the issue. The
>     issue is societal collapse. This issue is a corporate state that
>     has carried out a coup d'etat. The issue is the rupture of all
>     mechanisms within the political process to protect citizens from
>     accelerating impoverishment, internal control and corporate abuse.
>     Those who refuse to acknowledge this bleak reality cannot offer
>     solutions.
>
>     The right-wing propagandists have not created the problem. They
>     have tapped into the moral void that has left tens of millions of
>     Americans yearning for a profound and radical change. And if
>     torture, war, racist attacks on immigrants, gays and Muslims,
>     along with increased repression against internal dissidents, is
>     the price for moral and economic renewal, many Americans are ready
>     to sign on. If those who lead this rising proto-fascist movement
>     insist on a Christian nation, teach creationism and believe in the
>     physical existence of Satan, many Americans will sign on for this
>     too. Hatred, when mobilized, is a very effective political force.
>     And hatred, including the hatred for a liberal class that
>     abandoned the working class, is what we face.
>
>     The decimation of our working class through outsourcing and
>     globalization dynamited two of the most important props of the
>     democratic system---class consciousness and class conflict. This
>     has left traditional political parties, which once represented
>     differing class interests, with nothing to offer the public beyond
>     fringe issues such as abortion or gay marriage. Those in the
>     liberal class who cling to the corpse of the Democratic Party do
>     so not because they believe in the policies of the party---it does
>     not differ in any significant way from the Republican Party---but
>     because they hope against hope that the party will somehow restore
>     itself to its former position as a defender of liberal values and
>     the working class interests. It is the politics of nostalgia.
>
>     Our political theater has orphaned citizens who once looked to
>     political parties to express and defend their interests. It has
>     engendered apathy toward traditional social and political
>     structures and an inchoate rage. This mixture of apathy and rage
>     is a volatile cocktail. It finds its expression outside normal
>     systems of dissent and in leaders who, in times of prosperity and
>     stability, would be dismissed as lunatics.
>
>     No rally, no positive message, no effort to expose the idiocies of
>     those arrayed against us will work until we restore to the
>     political process mechanisms by which ordinary citizens can be
>     heard. Hannah Arendt in "The Origins of Totalitarianism" cites the
>     collapse of traditional political mechanisms, which now plagues
>     us, as the opening needed for all totalitarian movements:
>
>     "The fall of protecting class walls transformed the slumbering
>     majorities behind all parties into one great unorganized,
>     structureless mass of furious individuals who had nothing in
>     common except their vague apprehension that the hopes of party
>     members were doomed, that, consequently, the most respected,
>     articulate and representative members of the community were fools
>     and that all the powers that be were not so much evil as they were
>     equally stupid and fraudulent."
>
>     The One Nation March in Washington, which lacked moral and
>     political courage, did nothing to educate or rally our most
>     important constituency---those out of work, those being
>     foreclosed, those without hope. It refused to confront the real,
>     corporate structures of power. It refused to disown Barack Obama
>     and the Democrats. And in the end it only confirmed what those who
>     hate us think of liberals.
>
>     http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/march_to_nowhere_20101005/
>
>

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu Oct  7 16:12:46 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:12:46 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Illinois Greens get counterpunch
	praise]
In-Reply-To: <4CAD8431.10609@aceweb.com>
References: <4CAD8431.10609@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4CAE53EE.1070706@freeshell.org>

I think we were remiss last evening, during the GPSCC monthly meeting, 
for not considering donations to some Green Party candidates.  Could the 
Green Party County Committee make some recommendations that could be 
supported on line or phone by those who attend the meetings regularly 
and/or participate in online Green dialoging?

Supporting and electing Greens should be our highest priority?

Fred




On 10/7/10 1:26 AM, Tian Harter wrote:
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> Subject:     [G-C-F] Illinois Greens get counterpunch praise
> Date:     Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From:     Kalmran Alavi <calm_ron at yahoo.com>
> To:     cal-forum at cagreens.org
>
> I received the following URL from Bob Scofield, a Yolo Green
> who also wrote that a Green candidate for state legislator
> has received endorsement of Chicago Tribune.
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/halle10052010.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct  8 12:03:42 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:03:42 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Who is guarding the US Afghan Bases
Message-ID: <4CAF6B0E.3000405@earthlink.net>


The headline of today's Common Dreams:

     http://www.commondreams.org/

is "Guards at US Afghan Bases Turn Out To Be Taliban".

Article:
"Senate Report: Mismanaged US Contractor Money
Aids Enemy in Afghanistan"
     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/10/08-2

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct  8 12:42:06 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:42:06 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 10/10/10 begins tomorrow
Message-ID: <4CAF740E.80703@earthlink.net>


If it happens the same way as last October, the 10/10/10 day
of action begins in a few hours, (16? 15? 12?) just west of
the international date line, in the South Pacific islands.

Last October, there were about 5200 events in about 181
countries.  According to 350.org, CNN said that that was the
largest grassroots action ever.

At the moment, for 10/10/10, 350.org has 7014 events in 188
countries.  (According to Bill McKibben, "That leaves four
countries unaccounted for: North Korea, Andorra, Equatorial
Guinea, and San Marino.")

So whereever you are, there should be an event close to you.
     http://www.350.org/map

And if you want to tell others who don't know English, they
have translations in several different languages, including
French, Spanish, German, Portugese, Arabic, and Chinese.

Gerry




From jims at greens.org  Sat Oct  9 15:43:58 2010
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 15:43:58 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Order your Green Party Platform Summary and 2010
	Addendum
Message-ID: <4CB0F02E.7000502@greens.org>




++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Attention GPCA activists and counties:

The 2010 Addendum to the GPCA Platform Summary is now available.
This addendum updates the platform summary published in 2008.

Get 2008 Platform Summaries for $2.50; the 2010 Addendum for $1; both together
for $3; a bundle of 10 of both for $20.

The summary and addendum each have a smart green cover and fit together
as one unit. These booklets comprise a definitive summary of GPCA's
policies on many topics as submitted by the Platform
Standing Committee and edited and consensed by GPCA's General Assembly.

Contact the Clearinghouse at <clearinghouse at cagreens.org>,
or Michael B. at <thebor at cagreens.org>; 530.620.6659

.....Shane Que Hee, GPCA Platform Co-Coordinator




From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sat Oct  9 19:21:04 2010
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:21:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Illinois Greens get counterpunch
	praise]
In-Reply-To: <4CAE53EE.1070706@freeshell.org>
References: <4CAD8431.10609@aceweb.com> <4CAE53EE.1070706@freeshell.org>
Message-ID: <685098.51930.qm@web81203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I heartily agree. Let's put our money where our hearts are.
Caroline




________________________________
From: fred <fredd at freeshell.org>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Thu, October 7, 2010 4:12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [G-C-F] Illinois Greens get counterpunch praise]

I think we were remiss last evening, during the GPSCC monthly meeting, for not 
considering donations to some Green Party candidates.? Could the Green Party 
County Committee make some recommendations that could be supported on line or 
phone by those who attend the meetings regularly and/or participate in online 
Green dialoging? 


Supporting and electing Greens should be our highest priority?

Fred




On 10/7/10 1:26 AM, Tian Harter wrote: 

>-------- Original Message -------- 
>
>Subject:???? [G-C-F] Illinois Greens get counterpunch praise 
>Date:???? Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT) 
>From:???? Kalmran Alavi <calm_ron at yahoo.com> 
>To:???? cal-forum at cagreens.org 
>
>I received the following URL from Bob Scofield, a Yolo Green 
>who also wrote that a Green candidate for state legislator 
>has received endorsement of Chicago Tribune. 
>
>http://www.counterpunch.org/halle10052010.html 
>
>
> _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list 
>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org 
>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
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From wrolley at charter.net  Sun Oct 10 20:41:11 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 20:41:11 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Morgan Hill local races
Message-ID: <4CB28757.3020303@charter.net>

  I don't know how many Morgan Hill residents are on this list, but I 
hope that you will pay attention to the local races.  I devoted my most 
recent column 
<http://www.morganhilltimes.com/opinion/269338-green-talk-only-tate-takes-climate-change-serious> 
in the MH Times to the reasons why only Steve Tate is worth voting for 
for Mayor.  Art College is a good critic of local government but not cut 
our for office.  Marby Lee is on the City Council now but is in favor of 
everything that promotes business growth and against everything that 
spends money.

I have not yet made up my mind as to the city council votes, but Rich 
Constantine is the only candidate who is talking about Smart Growth.  I 
am going to vote for him and one other that I have not yet selected.  
Better get busy as I already have my mail-in ballot.
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 10 21:13:41 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 21:13:41 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "How to Save American Capitalism, in 809 Words"
Message-ID: <4CB28EF5.3060607@earthlink.net>


Some interesting ideas from Ted Rall,
about how to get out of the current mess:

     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/10/10-3

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 10 22:05:40 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 22:05:40 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party and Haliburton
Message-ID: <4CB29B24.8030308@earthlink.net>


Here is the first time that I have seen the Green Party
getting along with Haliburton:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/350org/5069112558/in/set-72157624992094727/

Gerry



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Oct 11 14:25:18 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:18 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party and Haliburton
In-Reply-To: <4CB29B24.8030308@earthlink.net>
References: <4CB29B24.8030308@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CB380BE.2030607@aceweb.com>

Ummm... That's a picture taken in Haliburton, Ontario, Canada.

Halliburton (spelling from a 9/11 bill) had nothing to do with it!

Gerry Gras wrote:
> 
> Here is the first time that I have seen the Green Party
> getting along with Haliburton:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/350org/5069112558/in/set-72157624992094727/
> 
> Gerry
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added an event writeup of Laura Wells for Governor!
The green horn fair trade icon is on a 1991 quarter (25c USA coin).


From jims at greens.org  Mon Oct 11 17:27:04 2010
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:27:04 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FRED --> This is for you
Message-ID: <4CB3AB58.9010001@greens.org>

Fred -

I've tried sending this to you twice. Your Spamcop service keeps blocking my 
emails.

Hope it gets to you through this list.

Jim


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Order your Green Party Platform Summary and 
2010	Addendum
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:34:36 -0700
From: Jim Stauffer <jims at greens.org>
To: fred <fredd at freeshell.org>

On 10/9/2010 5:14 PM, fred wrote:
> Hello Jim,
>
> I was expecting from you the email with the item to be submitted to the
> "MVVoice."
>
> I'll recheck my InBox again.
>
> Fred
>



Fred -

I sent it out last week and got a bounce from your address. Let me know if you
get it this time.

Jim
--------------------




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Press release on ballot props
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 14:16:58 -0700
From: Jim Stauffer <jims at greens.org>
To: Tian Harter <tnharter at aceweb.com>, Merriam <MKmusic03 at aol.com>,  Fred
Duperrault <fredd at freeshell.org>

Here's the GPCA press release. I've also added the summary.





State Green Party releases positions on state ballot propositions; GPCA
supports Prop. 19/marijuana legalization, opposes suspension of clean air laws

GREEN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA PRESS RELEASE

FULLERTON (Sep 16, 2010) - The Green Party of California (GPCA) this week
disclosed its positions on the state propositions on the ballot Nov. 2,
revealing it has endorsed less than half of the measures, according to Ricardo
Gomez, who released the poll results of Green Party County Councils (central
committees) at the party's state convention here.

Greens reserved their biggest support for Prop. 19, the marijuana legalization
measure, and also endorsed Prop. 21 (vehicle fee of $18 for helps
parks/wildlife), Prop. 24 (cut corporate tax breaks) and Prop. 25 (lowering
requirement to pass state budget to majority, from the present two-thirds in
the Legislature).

The GPCA overwhelmingly opposed Prop. 23 (suspension of air pollution laws)
and Prop. 26 (increases to two-thirds from majority to adopt new state taxes).

The Greens took no position on Prop. 20 (moves redistricting to a citizen
commission from the Legislature), largely because the party believes
proportional representation, practiced by virtually all of the world's
democracies, should be instituted not an incremental system that new
redistricting would provide.

And, the Greens remained neutral as well on Prop. 22 (prohibits the state from
raiding local government coffers) and Prop. 27 (repeal of the citizen
redistricting commission).

The Green Party said approving Prop. 19 is a social justice issue, noting that
three times as many Blacks are arrested on marijuana charges than Whites, who
use marijuana much more frequently.

"This is a long overdue correction of years of unjust prohibition of a drug
far less harmful than alcohol or nicotine," said Joan Strasser, in her
analysis for the GPCA.

Complete results are at www.cagreens.org.








Prop 19 ? YES (94.6%) 	         Prop 24 ? YES (85.5%)
Prop 20 ? No Position (62%)  	 Prop 25 ? YES (85%)
Prop 21 ? YES (88%) 	         Prop 26 ? NO (9%)
Prop 22 ? No Position (53%) 	 Prop 27 ? No Position (31%)
Prop 23 ? NO (6%)












From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Oct 11 21:05:27 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:05:27 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tim Geithner at Commonwealth Club SV 10/18 (Palo Alto)
Message-ID: <BAY140-W21F268AE1F6E498FE6AB489E540@phx.gbl>


 Great leafleting opportunity.  I hope Carol Brouillet can rise to the challenge!

Monday 10/18 Schultz Cultural Hall, Oshman Family JCC, 3921 Fabian Way, Palo Alto 1 p.m.


 
http://commonwealthclub.blogspot.com/2010/10/us-treasury-secretary-timothy-geithner.html


I won't be there.  I'll be at the San Francisco Commonwealth Club, where Condi Rice will be 
appearing.

Mark Hopkins Hotel, 999 California St. (at Mason) 12 noon


https://tickets.commonwealthclub.org/auto_choose_ga.asp?area=157






 		 	   		  
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Oct 11 22:22:13 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:22:13 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: LAST MINUTE DETAILS: 10/12 Open Debates Protest
	in San Rafael]
Message-ID: <4CB3F085.6050609@aceweb.com>

Anybody thinking about driving up to this?

Tian

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	LAST MINUTE DETAILS: 10/12 Open Debates Protest in San Rafael
Date: 	Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:03:40 -0700
From: 	Marnie Glickman <marnie.glickman at gmail.com>
To: 	(deleted long green list)



***PLEASE POST ON YOUR COUNTY EMAIL LISTSERVS***

Dear Green activists.

We are looking forward to seeing you tomorrow in San Rafael.  Here are
the last minute details.

1. We are meeting at 4:00pm on the corner of Grand and Acacia in San
Rafael, CA.  If you arrive after 4:00pm, please make your way to campus
and find us in the free speech zone near Angelico Hall.

2. It's going to be hot and sunny tomorrow.  Projected high in San
Rafael is 91 degrees.  Bring water, sunscreen and sunglasses.

3. Wear Green.  Bring signs, cameras and video cameras.

4. Be flexible about parking because traffic in San Rafael, during rush
hour, is always a nightmare. Budget time for your search for parking
into your travel plans.

PARKING OPTION 1.  From 101 going North take the Central San Rafael exit
and turn right onto Irwin/2nd Street.  Take a left onto Union (at the
Whole Foods Market) and then a left onto Belle.  The far end of Belle is
the closest to Dominican, where it intersects with Elm Street (past
Coleman Elementary but before Marin Tennis Club).  We are hoping that we
can park in the school lot since it will be after hours.  If not, park
on the street.

PARKING OPTION 2.  From 101 (also going North) take Central San Rafael
exit and go left onto 3rd Street.  Take a right onto Lincoln, drive for
a mile or two and take a right onto Linden Lane.  This will take you
_under_ the freeway.  When you emerge from the underpass, you take a
hard right/Uturn onto Elm.  Drive until you see Belle Ave.  It looks
like they will have staff directing traffic a block away if you take
this route.

PARKING OPTION 3. If you can't find parking off Belle and Elm, go to
Montecito Mall.  Park and walk up Grand Avenue to Acacia.

5. For those who want extra online information, read the traffic report
for debate night http://www.srpd.org/pr/index.php?article-id=65.

Call me if you have additional questions or suggestions.  My number is
415-472-2859.

Peace,
Marnie Glickman
Co-chair, Marin Greens
www.maringreens.org <http://www.maringreens.org>

P.S. Thanks to Nancy Mancias, Holly Bragman and Jim Geraghty for helping
with the parking research.






-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added an event writeup of Laura Wells for Governor!
The green horn fair trade icon is on a 1991 quarter (25c USA coin).


From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Oct 12 20:11:40 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:11:40 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
	ARRESTED]
Message-ID: <4CB5236C.4080008@aceweb.com>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE  LAURA WELLS ARRESTED
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:40:30 -0700
From: civillib <civillib at comcast.net>
To: gpcamedia <gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>, Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens - 
GPCA CCWG <gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>, (snipped other address(es))



  * GOVERNOR DEBATE NEWS ADVISORY *

Tuesday,  October 12, 2010
Contact:  Hank Chapot, 510.504.3538 hchapot at igc.org
       Cres Vellucci, 916.996.9170 cvellucci at cagreens.org
       Marnie Glickman 415-472-2859 marnie.glickman at gmail.com


GREEN PARTY GUBERNATORIAL
CANDIDATE ARRESTED at GOVERNOR'S
DEBATE; COURT ON ... ELECTION DAY

SAN RAFAEL ? Green Party gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells was
arrested here Tuesday as she was attempting to legally enter ? with a
ticket ?  the Governor's Debate at Dominican University. Private
security arrested Ms. Wells, handcuffed her and held her against her
will until San Rafael Police intervened.

Ms. Wells, based on the citizen arrest by Barbier Security agents for
allegedly trespassing, now must appear in court.....ironically, on
Election Day, Nov. 2.

"Republicans and Democrats will go to any lengths, even arresting
candidates, to keep the truth from California voters. There are
solutions, but voters aren't being allowed to hear from independent
candidates.  Meg and Jerry will spend tens of millions of dollars in
advertising but still won't address the problems plaguing us," said Ms.
Wells, after being released on her own recognizance.

Ms. Wells, 62, a financial and business analyst, and political activist
who resides in Oakland, polled more than 400,000 votes as a candidate
for controller in 2002, the most ever polled by a Green Party partisan
candidate in California.

With green gags covering their mouths, protestors from the Green Party
of California picketed  the Governor debate here Tuesday ? upset that
although billed as a "eco debate,"  the affair unfairly excludes
ballot-qualified Green Party candidate Wells.

"The debate is a fraud. Limiting it to Whitman and Brown is not just
anti-green, it is anti-democratic and anti-republican," said Ms. Wells,
noting polls that would qualify a candidate to participate in the debate
were invalid because they didn't even ask voters if they favored Laura
Wells. The only choices given to those polled were Whitman or Brown.

-30-
_______________________________________________
gpca-ccwg mailing list
gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg


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http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added an event writeup of Laura Wells for Governor!
The green horn fair trade icon is on a 1991 quarter (25c USA coin).


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 13 00:36:44 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:36:44 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
 ARRESTED]
In-Reply-To: <4CB5236C.4080008@aceweb.com>
References: <4CB5236C.4080008@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4CB5618C.9000702@earthlink.net>


Laura's arrest has shown up in the blogs of the
SF Chronicle and the LA Times:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=74454
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/brown-whitman-debate-green-party-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested-outside-debate.html

It has also shown up in a few other places, (google "Laura Wells").

But what are the chances it will show up in any mainstream media
paper?  I'll be going to the library today to see what I can
find.  If anyone sees mention of it in a paper, please let me know.

Thanks,

Gerry


Tian Harter wrote:
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS ARRESTED
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:40:30 -0700
> From: civillib <civillib at comcast.net>
> To: gpcamedia <gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>, Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens -
> GPCA CCWG <gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>, (snipped other address(es))
>
>
>
> * GOVERNOR DEBATE NEWS ADVISORY *
>
> Tuesday, October 12, 2010
> Contact: Hank Chapot, 510.504.3538 hchapot at igc.org
> Cres Vellucci, 916.996.9170 cvellucci at cagreens.org
> Marnie Glickman 415-472-2859 marnie.glickman at gmail.com
>
>
> GREEN PARTY GUBERNATORIAL
> CANDIDATE ARRESTED at GOVERNOR'S
> DEBATE; COURT ON ... ELECTION DAY
>
> SAN RAFAEL ? Green Party gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells was
> arrested here Tuesday as she was attempting to legally enter ? with a
> ticket ? the Governor's Debate at Dominican University. Private
> security arrested Ms. Wells, handcuffed her and held her against her
> will until San Rafael Police intervened.
>
> Ms. Wells, based on the citizen arrest by Barbier Security agents for
> allegedly trespassing, now must appear in court.....ironically, on
> Election Day, Nov. 2.
>
> "Republicans and Democrats will go to any lengths, even arresting
> candidates, to keep the truth from California voters. There are
> solutions, but voters aren't being allowed to hear from independent
> candidates. Meg and Jerry will spend tens of millions of dollars in
> advertising but still won't address the problems plaguing us," said Ms.
> Wells, after being released on her own recognizance.
>
> Ms. Wells, 62, a financial and business analyst, and political activist
> who resides in Oakland, polled more than 400,000 votes as a candidate
> for controller in 2002, the most ever polled by a Green Party partisan
> candidate in California.
>
> With green gags covering their mouths, protestors from the Green Party
> of California picketed the Governor debate here Tuesday ? upset that
> although billed as a "eco debate," the affair unfairly excludes
> ballot-qualified Green Party candidate Wells.
>
> "The debate is a fraud. Limiting it to Whitman and Brown is not just
> anti-green, it is anti-democratic and anti-republican," said Ms. Wells,
> noting polls that would qualify a candidate to participate in the debate
> were invalid because they didn't even ask voters if they favored Laura
> Wells. The only choices given to those polled were Whitman or Brown.
>
> -30-
> _______________________________________________
> gpca-ccwg mailing list
> gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg
>
>


From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us  Wed Oct 13 08:04:23 2010
From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:04:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
	ARRESTED]
Message-ID: <20101013150423.4741F6A9A5@truffula.sj.ca.us>


I posted a comment, on the LA Times blog article.
What a shame this story is hidden on a blog instead of
running in the news section.
They removed it after about an hour.


>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:36:44 -0700
>From: Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
>References: <4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>In-Reply-To: <4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>Cc: Post South SF Bay discus <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
> ARRESTED]


>Laura's arrest has shown up in the blogs of the
>SF Chronicle and the LA Times:

>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=3D74454
>http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/brown-whitman-d=
>ebate-green-party-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested-outside-debate.html

>It has also shown up in a few other places, (google "Laura Wells").

>But what are the chances it will show up in any mainstream media
>paper?  I'll be going to the library today to see what I can
>find.  If anyone sees mention of it in a paper, please let me know.

>Thanks,

>Gerry


>Tian Harter wrote:
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS ARRESTED
>> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:40:30 -0700
>> From: civillib <civillib at comcast.net>
>> To: gpcamedia <gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>, Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens -
>> GPCA CCWG <gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>, (snipped other address(es))
>>
>>
>>
>> * GOVERNOR DEBATE NEWS ADVISORY *
>>
>> Tuesday, October 12, 2010
>> Contact: Hank Chapot, 510.504.3538 hchapot at igc.org
>> Cres Vellucci, 916.996.9170 cvellucci at cagreens.org
>> Marnie Glickman 415-472-2859 marnie.glickman at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> GREEN PARTY GUBERNATORIAL
>> CANDIDATE ARRESTED at GOVERNOR'S
>> DEBATE; COURT ON ... ELECTION DAY
>>
>> SAN RAFAEL =96 Green Party gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells was
>> arrested here Tuesday as she was attempting to legally enter =96 with a
>> ticket =96 the Governor's Debate at Dominican University. Private
>> security arrested Ms. Wells, handcuffed her and held her against her
>> will until San Rafael Police intervened.
>>
>> Ms. Wells, based on the citizen arrest by Barbier Security agents for
>> allegedly trespassing, now must appear in court.....ironically, on
>> Election Day, Nov. 2.

[...]




From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Wed Oct 13 08:21:44 2010
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:21:44 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
 ARRESTED]
In-Reply-To: <20101013150423.4741F6A9A5@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20101013150423.4741F6A9A5@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <4CB5CE88.3030707@prodsyse.com>

  Hi, Cameron, et al.:


       No mainstream media organization will get much advertising 
revenue from hyping third party candidates, and they may even receive 
complaints from both bribers and bribees in our current bribery system 
of campaign finance.  The only way it makes economic sense for them to 
carry a story about a Green candidate is if they find they have to do 
that to retain audience.


       Spencer


On 10/13/2010 8:04 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
> I posted a comment, on the LA Times blog article.
> What a shame this story is hidden on a blog instead of
> running in the news section.
> They removed it after about an hour.
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:36:44 -0700
>> From: Gerry Gras<gerrygras at earthlink.net>
>> References:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>> In-Reply-To:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>> Cc: Post South SF Bay discus<sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
>> ARRESTED]
>
>> Laura's arrest has shown up in the blogs of the
>> SF Chronicle and the LA Times:
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=3D74454
>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/brown-whitman-d=
>> ebate-green-party-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested-outside-debate.html
>> It has also shown up in a few other places, (google "Laura Wells").
>> But what are the chances it will show up in any mainstream media
>> paper?  I'll be going to the library today to see what I can
>> find.  If anyone sees mention of it in a paper, please let me know.
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
>
>> Tian Harter wrote:
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS ARRESTED
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:40:30 -0700
>>> From: civillib<civillib at comcast.net>
>>> To: gpcamedia<gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>, Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens -
>>> GPCA CCWG<gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>, (snipped other address(es))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * GOVERNOR DEBATE NEWS ADVISORY *
>>>
>>> Tuesday, October 12, 2010
>>> Contact: Hank Chapot, 510.504.3538 hchapot at igc.org
>>> Cres Vellucci, 916.996.9170 cvellucci at cagreens.org
>>> Marnie Glickman 415-472-2859 marnie.glickman at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> GREEN PARTY GUBERNATORIAL
>>> CANDIDATE ARRESTED at GOVERNOR'S
>>> DEBATE; COURT ON ... ELECTION DAY
>>>
>>> SAN RAFAEL =96 Green Party gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells was
>>> arrested here Tuesday as she was attempting to legally enter =96 with a
>>> ticket =96 the Governor's Debate at Dominican University. Private
>>> security arrested Ms. Wells, handcuffed her and held her against her
>>> will until San Rafael Police intervened.
>>>
>>> Ms. Wells, based on the citizen arrest by Barbier Security agents for
>>> allegedly trespassing, now must appear in court.....ironically, on
>>> Election Day, Nov. 2.
> [...]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
>


-- 
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President and Chief Operating Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 13 10:49:51 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:49:51 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
 ARRESTED]
In-Reply-To: <20101013150423.4741F6A9A5@truffula.sj.ca.us>
References: <20101013150423.4741F6A9A5@truffula.sj.ca.us>
Message-ID: <4CB5F13F.1080006@earthlink.net>


The article is still there, so I assume you mean
they removed your comment.

The SF Chronicle and the LA Times put it in a blog,
the SJ Merc does not have it anywhere online,
or at least google isn't finding it.

Gerry


Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>
> I posted a comment, on the LA Times blog article.
> What a shame this story is hidden on a blog instead of
> running in the news section.
> They removed it after about an hour.
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:36:44 -0700
>> From: Gerry Gras<gerrygras at earthlink.net>
>> References:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>> In-Reply-To:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>> Cc: Post South SF Bay discus<sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
>> ARRESTED]
>
>
>> Laura's arrest has shown up in the blogs of the
>> SF Chronicle and the LA Times:
>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=3D74454
>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/brown-whitman-d=
>> ebate-green-party-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested-outside-debate.html
>
>> It has also shown up in a few other places, (google "Laura Wells").
>
>> But what are the chances it will show up in any mainstream media
>> paper?  I'll be going to the library today to see what I can
>> find.  If anyone sees mention of it in a paper, please let me know.
>
>> Thanks,
>
>> Gerry
>
>
>> Tian Harter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS ARRESTED
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:40:30 -0700
>>> From: civillib<civillib at comcast.net>
>>> To: gpcamedia<gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>, Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens -
>>> GPCA CCWG<gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>, (snipped other address(es))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * GOVERNOR DEBATE NEWS ADVISORY *
>>>
>>> Tuesday, October 12, 2010
>>> Contact: Hank Chapot, 510.504.3538 hchapot at igc.org
>>> Cres Vellucci, 916.996.9170 cvellucci at cagreens.org
>>> Marnie Glickman 415-472-2859 marnie.glickman at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> GREEN PARTY GUBERNATORIAL
>>> CANDIDATE ARRESTED at GOVERNOR'S
>>> DEBATE; COURT ON ... ELECTION DAY
>>>
>>> SAN RAFAEL =96 Green Party gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells was
>>> arrested here Tuesday as she was attempting to legally enter =96 with a
>>> ticket =96 the Governor's Debate at Dominican University. Private
>>> security arrested Ms. Wells, handcuffed her and held her against her
>>> will until San Rafael Police intervened.
>>>
>>> Ms. Wells, based on the citizen arrest by Barbier Security agents for
>>> allegedly trespassing, now must appear in court.....ironically, on
>>> Election Day, Nov. 2.
>
> [...]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Oct 13 11:04:48 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:04:48 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] What to do now that 10-10-10 has passed?
Message-ID: <4CB5F4C0.5050805@charter.net>

  There was a lot of feel good about participating in events on 
10-10-10, especially those identified by 350.org and Bill McKibben.  So, 
now that this has passed, what should we be doing?  And why were we not 
doing that before?

One of the blogs that I follow the Climate Progress site led by Joe 
Romm.  In response to one of Romm's posts today 
<http://climateprogress.org/2010/10/12/meet-pat-toomey-climate-zombie/>, 
Jeff Huggins provided a disheartening assessment of the current situation.
>
> Finally --- and maybe this is just the mood I'm in presently, or maybe 
> it's an early sign --- I am starting to deeply wonder whether my 
> comments are doing any good whatsoever. Indeed, or also, I spent 
> Sunday at three 10/10/10 events, and enjoyed them all, but I'm also 
> starting to wonder whether my activities in those sorts of things are 
> doing any good whatsoever. I do not get the feeling that the 
> movement(s) are thinking creatively, nor do I feel that any of the 
> movements are reaching out to me for ideas in any sincere and 
> interested way. The only things I hear from the movements are requests 
> to stick with it, requests for donations, requests to participate in 
> national listen-in conference calls (after which I have no idea 
> whether anyone even considered the ideas I submitted afterwards), and 
> encouragement to attend events that occur once every year.
>
> In short, I am beginning to "run on empty", both with respect to the 
> activities and (sometimes) with respect to my involvement here. And I 
> think that's a sign, potentially.* People are motivated by actual 
> progress*, by belonging, by feeling that they are being listened to, 
> and by feeling that their efforts are making a difference. And as I 
> said, I'm feeling like I'm running on empty, which isn't sustainable 
> of course

I expounded a bit more on this at my blog 
<http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-to-do-after-10-10-10.html>.

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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Wed Oct 13 11:06:09 2010
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:06:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
	ARRESTED]
In-Reply-To: <4CB5F13F.1080006@earthlink.net>
References: <20101013150423.4741F6A9A5@truffula.sj.ca.us>
	<4CB5F13F.1080006@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <911324.15105.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It was covered on the channel 2 news last night at 10:30.

?



________________________________
From: Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
To: Post South SF Bay discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Wed, October 13, 2010 10:49:51 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS 
ARRESTED]


The article is still there, so I assume you mean
they removed your comment.

The SF Chronicle and the LA Times put it in a blog,
the SJ Merc does not have it anywhere online,
or at least google isn't finding it.

Gerry


Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>
> I posted a comment, on the LA Times blog article.
> What a shame this story is hidden on a blog instead of
> running in the news section.
> They removed it after about an hour.
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:36:44 -0700
>> From: Gerry Gras<gerrygras at earthlink.net>
>> References:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>> In-Reply-To:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>
>> Cc: Post South SF Bay discus<sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
>> ARRESTED]
>
>
>> Laura's arrest has shown up in the blogs of the
>> SF Chronicle and the LA Times:
>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=3D74454
>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/brown-whitman-d=
>> ebate-green-party-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested-outside-debate.html
>
>> It has also shown up in a few other places, (google "Laura Wells").
>
>> But what are the chances it will show up in any mainstream media
>> paper?? I'll be going to the library today to see what I can
>> find.? If anyone sees mention of it in a paper, please let me know.
>
>> Thanks,
>
>> Gerry
>
>
>> Tian Harter wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS ARRESTED
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:40:30 -0700
>>> From: civillib<civillib at comcast.net>
>>> To: gpcamedia<gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>, Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens -
>>> GPCA CCWG<gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>, (snipped other address(es))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * GOVERNOR DEBATE NEWS ADVISORY *
>>>
>>> Tuesday, October 12, 2010
>>> Contact: Hank Chapot, 510.504.3538 hchapot at igc.org
>>> Cres Vellucci, 916.996.9170 cvellucci at cagreens.org
>>> Marnie Glickman 415-472-2859 marnie.glickman at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> GREEN PARTY GUBERNATORIAL
>>> CANDIDATE ARRESTED at GOVERNOR'S
>>> DEBATE; COURT ON ... ELECTION DAY
>>>
>>> SAN RAFAEL =96 Green Party gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells was
>>> arrested here Tuesday as she was attempting to legally enter =96 with a
>>> ticket =96 the Governor's Debate at Dominican University. Private
>>> security arrested Ms. Wells, handcuffed her and held her against her
>>> will until San Rafael Police intervened.
>>>
>>> Ms. Wells, based on the citizen arrest by Barbier Security agents for
>>> allegedly trespassing, now must appear in court.....ironically, on
>>> Election Day, Nov. 2.
>
> [...]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
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From wrolley at REFPUB.COM  Wed Oct 13 11:26:48 2010
From: wrolley at REFPUB.COM (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:26:48 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] McCloskey is a wise old man.,
Message-ID: <4CB5F9E8.1010804@REFPUB.COM>

http://www.penipress.com/2010/10/08/the-legacy-of-environmental-maverick-pete-mccloskey/




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 13 11:59:26 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:59:26 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] What to do now that 10-10-10 has passed?
In-Reply-To: <4CB5F4C0.5050805@charter.net>
References: <4CB5F4C0.5050805@charter.net>
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Wes,

I am sympathetic to what Higgins says, and I agree with
what your blog says.

Gerry


Wes Rolley wrote:
>   There was a lot of feel good about participating in events on
> 10-10-10, especially those identified by 350.org and Bill McKibben. So,
> now that this has passed, what should we be doing? And why were we not
> doing that before?
>
> One of the blogs that I follow the Climate Progress site led by Joe
> Romm. In response to one of Romm's posts today
> <http://climateprogress.org/2010/10/12/meet-pat-toomey-climate-zombie/>,
> Jeff Huggins provided a disheartening assessment of the current situation.
>>
>> Finally ? and maybe this is just the mood I?m in presently, or maybe
>> it?s an early sign ? I am starting to deeply wonder whether my
>> comments are doing any good whatsoever. Indeed, or also, I spent
>> Sunday at three 10/10/10 events, and enjoyed them all, but I?m also
>> starting to wonder whether my activities in those sorts of things are
>> doing any good whatsoever. I do not get the feeling that the
>> movement(s) are thinking creatively, nor do I feel that any of the
>> movements are reaching out to me for ideas in any sincere and
>> interested way. The only things I hear from the movements are requests
>> to stick with it, requests for donations, requests to participate in
>> national listen-in conference calls (after which I have no idea
>> whether anyone even considered the ideas I submitted afterwards), and
>> encouragement to attend events that occur once every year.
>>
>> In short, I am beginning to ?run on empty?, both with respect to the
>> activities and (sometimes) with respect to my involvement here. And I
>> think that?s a sign, potentially.* People are motivated by actual
>> progress*, by belonging, by feeling that they are being listened to,
>> and by feeling that their efforts are making a difference. And as I
>> said, I?m feeling like I?m running on empty, which isn?t sustainable
>> of course
>
> I expounded a bit more on this at my blog
> <http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/10/what-to-do-after-10-10-10.html>.
>
>
>
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 13 12:01:25 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:01:25 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS
 ARRESTED]
In-Reply-To: <911324.15105.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Really!  Great!

How did they spin it?

Any idea how big an audience it has?  I don't know channel 2.

Gerry


Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> It was covered on the channel 2 news last night at 10:30.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
> *To:* Post South SF Bay discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Wed, October 13, 2010 10:49:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA
> WELLS ARRESTED]
>
>
> The article is still there, so I assume you mean
> they removed your comment.
>
> The SF Chronicle and the LA Times put it in a blog,
> the SJ Merc does not have it anywhere online,
> or at least google isn't finding it.
>
> Gerry
>
>
> Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
>  >
>  > I posted a comment, on the LA Times blog article.
>  > What a shame this story is hidden on a blog instead of
>  > running in the news section.
>  > They removed it after about an hour.
>  >
>  >
>  >> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:36:44 -0700
>  >> From: Gerry Gras<gerrygras at earthlink.net
> <mailto:gerrygras at earthlink.net>>
>  >> References:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com
> <mailto:4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>>
>  >> In-Reply-To:<4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com
> <mailto:4CB5236C.4080008 at aceweb.com>>
>  >> Cc: Post South SF Bay discus<sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>>
>  >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA
> WELLS
>  >> ARRESTED]
>  >
>  >
>  >> Laura's arrest has shown up in the blogs of the
>  >> SF Chronicle and the LA Times:
>  >
>  >>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=3D74454
>  >>
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/brown-whitman-d=
>  >> ebate-green-party-gubernatorial-candidate-arrested-outside-debate.html
>  >
>  >> It has also shown up in a few other places, (google "Laura Wells").
>  >
>  >> But what are the chances it will show up in any mainstream media
>  >> paper? I'll be going to the library today to see what I can
>  >> find. If anyone sees mention of it in a paper, please let me know.
>  >
>  >> Thanks,
>  >
>  >> Gerry
>  >
>  >
>  >> Tian Harter wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> -------- Original Message --------
>  >>> Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] CORRECTED RELEASE LAURA WELLS ARRESTED
>  >>> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:40:30 -0700
>  >>> From: civillib<civillib at comcast.net <mailto:civillib at comcast.net>>
>  >>> To: gpcamedia<gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org
> <mailto:gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>>, Greens - GPCA CCWG Greens -
>  >>> GPCA CCWG<gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org <mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>>,
> (snipped other address(es))
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> * GOVERNOR DEBATE NEWS ADVISORY *
>  >>>
>  >>> Tuesday, October 12, 2010
>  >>> Contact: Hank Chapot, 510.504.3538 hchapot at igc.org
> <mailto:hchapot at igc.org>
>  >>> Cres Vellucci, 916.996.9170 cvellucci at cagreens.org
> <mailto:cvellucci at cagreens.org>
>  >>> Marnie Glickman 415-472-2859 marnie.glickman at gmail.com
> <mailto:marnie.glickman at gmail.com>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> GREEN PARTY GUBERNATORIAL
>  >>> CANDIDATE ARRESTED at GOVERNOR'S
>  >>> DEBATE; COURT ON ... ELECTION DAY
>  >>>
>  >>> SAN RAFAEL =96 Green Party gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells was
>  >>> arrested here Tuesday as she was attempting to legally enter =96 with a
>  >>> ticket =96 the Governor's Debate at Dominican University. Private
>  >>> security arrested Ms. Wells, handcuffed her and held her against her
>  >>> will until San Rafael Police intervened.
>  >>>
>  >>> Ms. Wells, based on the citizen arrest by Barbier Security agents for
>  >>> allegedly trespassing, now must appear in court.....ironically, on
>  >>> Election Day, Nov. 2.
>  >
>  > [...]
>  >
>  >
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>  > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 13 12:44:06 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:44:06 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: [usgp-dx] Video: KCRA news report
 on Laura Well's arrest
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From danasg at greens.org  Wed Oct 13 14:37:17 2010
From: danasg at greens.org (Dana St. George)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:37:17 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: Fwd: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: [usgp-dx] Video: KCRA news
 report on Laura Well's arrest]
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Dear Mr. Thorwaldson,

	What is happening in this country?  How can the police stop a legitimate political 
candidate from attending an event?  Ms. Wells, the Green Party candidate for Governor, had 
a verified ticket and was peacefully about to attend the Democratic/Republican 
gubernatorial debate in San Rafael when she was stopped and led away by the police.

	I am shocked and saddened that my candidate for Governor is being victimized in this way. 
  Actually, Ms. Wells and the other independent candidates should have been included in 
the debates.  The fact that they have been excluded (like Mr. Nader before them) indicates 
that we do not live in a democracy, after all.  We live in a country controlled by 
corporations and a political landscape people by corporate-sponsored candidates.  Fascism, 
as defined by Wikipedia, is an authoritarian political system dominated by corporate 
interests.  The people are ignorant of other choices they might have because of collusion 
by the press to suppress or ignore other political ideas.

	It is the responsibility of a free press to accurately describe the political
situation and report it to the people.

Sincerely,



Dana Marie St. George
Santa Clara County Green Party Member
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Wed Oct 13 22:37:39 2010
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:37:39 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Laura Wells Arrested at Sham Debate
Message-ID: <8CD39790C819F90-AF0-8C70@webmail-d096.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Green Friends,

 Please review and comment on my video of the Laura Wells incident on my blog at California Greening.  Click on the thumbnail to go directly to YouTube.   

Posted on California Greening, October 13, 2010 
 Laura Wells, Green Party Candidate, Arrested at Sham Debate  



Ms. wells was arrested at the final debate between Democrat Jerry Brown and Republican Meg Whitman. Ms. Wells had a valid ticket and had already gone through security. The charge: trespassing.

READ MORE AND COMMENT AT:
http://http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/10/laura-wells-green-party-candidate.html

VIEW VIDEO ON YOUTUBE AT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly22G4pCK1M

VIEW VIDEO ON FACEBOOK AT:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1530900244724
 


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Oct 13 22:53:33 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:53:33 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Update On Arrest
Message-ID: <4CB69ADD.4090405@earthlink.net>


As you know, Laura Wells, Green Party candidate for Governor
of California was arrested yesterday in San Rafael, California.

The charge is trespassing, which I have been told is a
misdemeanor, and could mean 6 months to a year in jail.

She is now scheduled to appear in court on November 2,
election day.  But in my experience the date may change.

NOTE: On the issue of being excluded from the debate,
Laura says 2 things:
1) she received a letter inviting her to the debates provided
    that she received 10% support in a poll,
2) at least one poll asked people if they preferred Brown or
    Whitman, (no other option was provided), and if anyone
    declared preference for another, he was put in the
    "undecided" category.

This is not just an affront to Laura, it is also a blow
against civil liberties and democracy.

For more info:

Laura Wells for Governor website (including statement
about arrest):
http://www.laurawells.org/

Green Party of California (including a news release and
links to various media stories):
http://cagreens.org/

Green Party of the United States (including a press
release and a link to a news story):
http://gp.org/

California Greening video:
http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/10/laura-wells-green-party-candidate.html

Gerry

"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention."




From vdf at juno.com  Wed Oct 13 23:01:36 2010
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:01:36 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Update On Arrest
Message-ID: <20101013.230136.22946.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>

FYI, according to an email from the state's Campaigns & Candidates Working Group email list, links to articles about Laura's arrest are also on the "Press Clippings" page at
http://www.cagreens.org/elections/pressclippings.shtml

According to Bert, the page's maintainer, the links on the "Press Clippings" page live longer than those on the home page.

Valerie

~*~*~*~   Car-Free for 30 Years   ~*~*~*~

---------- Original Message ----------
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:53:33 -0700
From: Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
To: Post South SF Bay discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Update On Arrest


As you know, Laura Wells, Green Party candidate for Governor
of California was arrested yesterday in San Rafael, California.

The charge is trespassing, which I have been told is a
misdemeanor, and could mean 6 months to a year in jail.

She is now scheduled to appear in court on November 2,
election day.  But in my experience the date may change.

NOTE: On the issue of being excluded from the debate,
Laura says 2 things:
1) she received a letter inviting her to the debates provided
    that she received 10% support in a poll,
2) at least one poll asked people if they preferred Brown or
    Whitman, (no other option was provided), and if anyone
    declared preference for another, he was put in the
    "undecided" category.

This is not just an affront to Laura, it is also a blow
against civil liberties and democracy.

For more info:

Laura Wells for Governor website (including statement
about arrest):
http://www.laurawells.org/

Green Party of California (including a news release and
links to various media stories):
http://cagreens.org/

Green Party of the United States (including a press
release and a link to a news story):
http://gp.org/

California Greening video:
http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/10/laura-wells-green-party-candidate.html

Gerry

"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention."


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 14 08:40:27 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:40:27 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Update On Arrest
In-Reply-To: <4CB69ADD.4090405@earthlink.net>
References: <4CB69ADD.4090405@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CB7246B.9000000@earthlink.net>


Apparently Laura Wells will be on Democracy Now,
94.1 at 9AM.

Gerry


Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> As you know, Laura Wells, Green Party candidate for Governor
> of California was arrested yesterday in San Rafael, California.
>
> The charge is trespassing, which I have been told is a
> misdemeanor, and could mean 6 months to a year in jail.
>
> She is now scheduled to appear in court on November 2,
> election day. But in my experience the date may change.
>
> NOTE: On the issue of being excluded from the debate,
> Laura says 2 things:
> 1) she received a letter inviting her to the debates provided
> that she received 10% support in a poll,
> 2) at least one poll asked people if they preferred Brown or
> Whitman, (no other option was provided), and if anyone
> declared preference for another, he was put in the
> "undecided" category.
>
> This is not just an affront to Laura, it is also a blow
> against civil liberties and democracy.
>
> For more info:
>
> Laura Wells for Governor website (including statement
> about arrest):
> http://www.laurawells.org/
>
> Green Party of California (including a news release and
> links to various media stories):
> http://cagreens.org/
>
> Green Party of the United States (including a press
> release and a link to a news story):
> http://gp.org/
>
> California Greening video:
> http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/10/laura-wells-green-party-candidate.html
>
>
> Gerry
>
> "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention."
>
>


From wrolley at charter.net  Thu Oct 14 13:54:28 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:54:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Budrus - Arab Film Festival
Message-ID: <4CB76E04.4050800@charter.net>

  I saw a discussion of the movie /Budrus/ on the Charlie Rose show this 
week.  The guests were the director, Brazilian Julia Bacha and Queen 
Noor of Jordan.  I watched the trailer today.  Then went looking for a 
US schedule.  I was surprised to see that it will be shown at Cinema 12 
on Saturday, Oct. 16, 4:30 PM as part of the Arab Film Festiva 
<http://arabfilmfestival.org/film_detail.php?id=953>l.

I can not imagine a more truly Green way to address the Israeli - 
Palestinian confrontation.  And a girl will lead them.


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From fredd at freeshell.org  Thu Oct 14 15:55:43 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:55:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Update On Arrest
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Message-ID: <4CB78A6F.2020209@freeshell.org>

  Right on Gerry!

Fred

On 10/13/10 10:53 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> As you know, Laura Wells, Green Party candidate for Governor
> of California was arrested yesterday in San Rafael, California.
>
> The charge is trespassing, which I have been told is a
> misdemeanor, and could mean 6 months to a year in jail.
>
> She is now scheduled to appear in court on November 2,
> election day.  But in my experience the date may change.
>
> NOTE: On the issue of being excluded from the debate,
> Laura says 2 things:
> 1) she received a letter inviting her to the debates provided
>    that she received 10% support in a poll,
> 2) at least one poll asked people if they preferred Brown or
>    Whitman, (no other option was provided), and if anyone
>    declared preference for another, he was put in the
>    "undecided" category.
>
> This is not just an affront to Laura, it is also a blow
> against civil liberties and democracy.
>
> For more info:
>
> Laura Wells for Governor website (including statement
> about arrest):
> http://www.laurawells.org/
>
> Green Party of California (including a news release and
> links to various media stories):
> http://cagreens.org/
>
> Green Party of the United States (including a press
> release and a link to a news story):
> http://gp.org/
>
> California Greening video:
> http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2010/10/laura-wells-green-party-candidate.html 
>
>
> Gerry
>
> "If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention."
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 14 18:43:20 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:43:20 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [GPCA Updates] ARRESTED GOV CANDIDATE to fight
 charges, calls CA condition 'the real crime'
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 14 18:43:46 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:43:46 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [GPCA Updates] GP RELEASE Green Party candidates
 win some debates, battle exclusion from others (top stories, video, audio)
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 15 00:13:15 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:13:15 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Words to Live By
Message-ID: <BAY140-W84AF1CBBD4C38C0F868989E570@phx.gbl>



If you don't know "Page 43" by Crosby and Nash, you're in for a treat.

The river can be
hot or cold
and you should

Dive right into it
else you find
it's passed you by.


http://new.music.yahoo.com/crosby-nash/tracks/page-43--17979099


 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 15 07:35:43 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:35:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Another Green Candidate for Governor has problem with
	ballot
Message-ID: <4CB866BF.2070909@earthlink.net>


In Illinois, Rich Whitney, Green Party Candidate
for Governor, is sometimes listed as "Rich Whitey".

Do a web search for "Rich Whitey Whitney", or
go to:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/15/rich-whitney-listed-as-wh_n_763948.html

Gerry



From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 15 13:09:06 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:09:06 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Women and the Right to Vote - Support California Green
 Party Candidate Laura Wells!
Message-ID: <4CB8B4E2.2060805@charter.net>

  This came from Sandy Stassini.  He adds a little spice to the 
political pot.

California Women's Rights just took a turn for the worse.  Republican 
Billionaire Governor candidate Meg Whitman admitted she never voted for 
twenty years.  As e-Bay CEO, Meg shipped thousands of women's jobs out 
of California.  Meg repeatedly spoke out against Latina immigrants.  And 
Meg just disclosed hiring an undocumented home worker, Nicky Diaz 
Santillan, for 9 years, who she abruptly fired, right before starting 
her campaign for Governor.
Each of these is a callous, willful act by Meg Whitman to destroy 
Women's Rights, everywhere!  To take away a woman's right to vote!  To 
deprive women of employment!  To divide women by class!  And to take 
away women's self-evident human rights!
To add insult to injury, Meg Whitman is now linked to recent arrest of 
Green Party Governor candidate Laura Wells.  At October 12 , a 
"citizen's arrest" was made upon Laura, ticket in hand, as she was to 
attend Governor's debate at Dominican University in San Rafael!  And the 
private surveillance firm which made the illegal arrest, Barbier 
Security, appears to have been hired by Meg Whitman for campaign events, 
up and down the state!
California women, do not let the dedication, sacrifice, advocay of 
millions of your sisters go to waste!  To give women the right to vote! 
To win employment, and workplace rights!  To stand in solidarity with 
other oppressed minorities!  And to affirm human rights!
Meg Whitman will destroy Women's Rights!  Vote for a real woman.  Vote 
Laura Wells, Green Party candidate for California Governor!
file:///C:/Users/Wes/Documents/Sufferage.jpg*
DON'T LET MEG WHITMAN IMPRISON YOU, THE WAY IT HAPPENED TO LAURA WELLS!


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 15 19:38:05 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:38:05 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Another video about Laura at Dominican
Message-ID: <4CB9100D.1000602@earthlink.net>


     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6QxZPkN3MA

Gerry


From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 16 10:01:28 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:01:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama Meets with Condi in the WH
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W26DDE9149F9E31FF0A79279E580@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W26DDE9149F9E31FF0A79279E580@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY140-W25A698B110A5CBF7FD46FA9E580@phx.gbl>


(Reminder:  Condi appears at the Mark Hopkins Monday, Oct 18, at noon.  Doors
open at 11.)








Glenn Greenwald writes:

"That Obama is not only shielding from all accountability, but meeting
 in the 
Oval Office with, the person who presided over the Bush White 
House's 
torture-approval-and-choreographing meetings and who was 
responsible for 
the single most fear-mongering claim leading to the Iraq
 War, speaks 
volumes about the accountability-free nature of Washington 
culture and this 
White House.


        
  John Aschroft was probably right that 'history will not judge 
kindly' what these Rice-led officials did."


http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/15/accountability/index.html

Greenwald adds sarcastically:  "But that's obviously not true of contemporary 
amoral Washington or its current President."





 		 	   		  


 		 	   		  
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 16 11:03:32 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:03:32 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] holiday peace fair
Message-ID: <4CB9E8F4.8020609@sbcglobal.net>

We have committed to be there,
namely a check for $40 has been or is being sent
to the promoters.

As participants we have some obligations:

Noitifying the sponsors and putting the check in the mail hae been done.

Sending a representative to the planning meeting to be held at
10 AM on Saturday, November 6.  The 11/6 meeting will probably at the CUMC -
the Campbell United Methodist Church.

AMONG THE JOBS STILL TO BE "CLAIMED" FOR THE HPF IS THAT
OF "STAGE MANAGER" -- to coordinate the entertainment groups on the day 
of the fair. 
Please think about people in your group and try to find someone who 
could do that job.

Each group is required to donate at least one item for sale at the
dessert table (chocolate items and pies of any kind are very popular).

Other things that need to be done 12/4: 

8-9 AM (setting up tables),
helping for an hour or more at the entrance table
and/or the desserts table through the 10 AM - 4 PM open hours,
and clean-up of the general space from 4-5:30 PM
(in addition to helping to clear your group's table).

Pick up flyers and tickets at the Peace and Justice center.
Distribute said flyers and sell said tickets ($2)




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 16 11:08:16 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:08:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item for 11-3 meeting
Message-ID: <4CB9EA10.4070207@sbcglobal.net>

Holiday Peace Fair

Need volunteeers for set up, clean up, dessert item.
volunteer to attend the planning meeting on 11-6.

Line up tablers, line up sale items.

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 16 11:35:00 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:35:00 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] leonard peltier caucus
Message-ID: <4CB9F054.6040508@sbcglobal.net>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. 
For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting,
please do not hit reply.  Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Green Members,

A new caucus has been formed.  The Free Leonard Peltier Causus is 
working to
circulate a petition for signatures to be presented to Pres. Obama at the
end of his tenure asking for a presidential pardon for the longest held
political prisoner, Leonard Peltier.

At this time the membership consists of Deacon Alexander, primary candidate
for California Governor and coordinator of the Watts Greens and Dorothy
Kemeny, member of the GPLAC County Council and Co-coordinator of the Long
Beach Greens.

The caucus will be working on circulation of the petition on-line and
establishing a downloadable form on the GPCA Front Page as well as
publicizing it in the Focus and Green Pages.  It is the aim of the 
caucus to
reach out to all the organizations and individuals working for Peltier's
release around the world to sign to the petition.

The contact person is Dorothy Kemeny dlkemeny at gmail.com
<mailto:dlkemeny at gmail.com>
(562)429-7521,
(562)242-4751.



From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 17 16:02:39 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:02:39 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Compost the Republicrats!
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W232C625D2BE1380EF367B99E590@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W2CEA7AFF19362A9E979B09E590@phx.gbl>,
	<BAY140-W12C820A3D259C40448F3589E590@phx.gbl>,
	<BAY140-W232C625D2BE1380EF367B99E590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY140-W18933A711D48BC372726D49E590@phx.gbl>










   This poster is probably not very politically effective in that it associates  
healthy composting with corrupt animal corpses, but I got a chuckle out of
it and hope you will too.



 		 	   		  
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From vdf at juno.com  Sun Oct 17 19:27:57 2010
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 02:27:57 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Laura Wells interviewed on KGO AM 810 radio last
	night: 8-9 PM
Message-ID: <20101017.192757.28946.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>

Hi everyone,

Laura Wells was interviewed and took calls on KGO AM 810 radio last night from 8:00 to 9:00 PM.

Program archives can be found at this page
http://vaca.bayradio.com/kgo_archives/
and THEY REMAIN UP FOR 7 DAYS.

The page defaults to the current day, so click the link for Saturday, then click the link for "8 - 9 p.m."  A new window will open with a player you can use to listen, and also a link you can use to download the hour.

Valerie

~*~*~*~   Car-Free for 30 Years   ~*~*~*~

____________________________________________________________
Globe Life Insurance
$1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cbbb0dcba753335f4st05vuc


From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Oct 18 10:12:04 2010
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Laura Wells interviewed on KGO AM 810 radio last
	night: 8-9 PM
In-Reply-To: <20101017.192757.28946.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20101017.192757.28946.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <636873.89526.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks a lot for providing that link. I have been sad to have to miss Laura's 
speaking engagements. It was great to hear more than just a sound bite. I hope a 
lot of other people listen in.
Caroline




________________________________
From: Valerie D. Face <vdf at juno.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 7:27:57 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Laura Wells interviewed on KGO AM 810 radio last night: 
8-9 PM

Hi everyone,

Laura Wells was interviewed and took calls on KGO AM 810 radio last night from 
8:00 to 9:00 PM.

Program archives can be found at this page
http://vaca.bayradio.com/kgo_archives/
and THEY REMAIN UP FOR 7 DAYS.

The page defaults to the current day, so click the link for Saturday, then click 
the link for "8 - 9 p.m."? A new window will open with a player you can use to 
listen, and also a link you can use to download the hour.

Valerie

~*~*~*~? Car-Free for 30 Years? ~*~*~*~

____________________________________________________________
Globe Life Insurance
$1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cbbb0dcba753335f4st05vuc
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Oct 20 13:22:45 2010
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:22:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda for Nov 3rd GPSCC Monthly Meeting / Post
	Additions
Message-ID: <f04c.115bb8c5.39f0a995@aol.com>

 
GREEN  PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY 
Draft  Agenda for Monthly General Membership Meeting November 3,  2010 
San  Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose,  CA 
(Near  7th and San Fernando) 
6:30  pm ? Eat and chat 
7:30  pm ? Begin meeting 
Select  Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher(s), Select 
Agenda Preparer  for next meeting (5 Minutes)  
Introductions  and Announcements (10 Minutes) 
Treasurer?s  Report (5 Minutes) 
General  Discussion about November 2nd Electon Results (10  Minutes) 
Need  to recruit new regional Coordinating Council member and alternate (10 
 minutes) 
Review  upcoming tabling events (see list below); Report on status of 
tabling materials  and supplies  -- Jim Doyle (15  Minutes) 
(2  Hours Estimated Cumulative Times.  Goal:  Adjourn by 9:30  pm) 
Tabling Events  Addenda ? Needed for each item (not necessarily all at this 
 meeting): 
Confirm date and  location; Approval of fee payment (as applicable); 
Designation of coordinator(s)  and other volunteers 
Next Junior  Statesmen meeting ? November 22nd  Santa Clara Convention 
Center 
Holiday Peace  Fair ? Saturday December 4th San Jose 
###   
Holiday  Peace Fair

Need volunteeers for set up, clean up, dessert item. volunteer  to attend 
the planning meeting on 11-6.
Line up tablers, line up sale  items.  Jim Doyle
 
 


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 21 12:05:45 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:05:45 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item for 11-3
Message-ID: <4CC08F09.40100@sbcglobal.net>

Tabling at Junior State on Saturday November 20-th.
Need to discuss crew and materials.
I.e., need volunteers.

Jim Doyle



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 21 11:56:54 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:56:54 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] homeless memorial 3 pm 10-24
Message-ID: <4CC08CF6.30705@sbcglobal.net>



*OCTOBER 24 MEMORIAL SERVICE
FOR THE HOMELESS*
On Sunday October 24, CHAM Deliverance Ministry will hold a
memorial service to honor the area?s homeless who have fallen due
to poverty and neglect.
The memorial will be held at 3 pm in Roosevelt Park, at 19^th and
Santa Clara Street in San Jose, California.
According to the Coroner?s office, 66 people died while homeless in
Santa Clara County in 2009, and 44 more have died homeless so far in 2010.
This memorial is held not only to pay our respects to those who have
passed away, but also to fight for the living. It is held in solidarity 
with
International Housing Rights and Zero Eviction Days this October. It will
also coincide with the visit of UN Special Rapporteur Raquel Rolnick to the
United States this month. Ms. Rolnick?s recent report pointed out that here
in the world?s wealthiest country we have failed to guarantee the right to
adequate housing for our people.
Securing housing for the homeless and all Americans is not about charity.
It is a question of fundamental Biblical justice. While our people are 
suffering,
our wealthiest corporations continue to impoverish the state with greedy
demands for more tax breaks. If we as a society have material possessions,
and see our brother and sister in need and have no compassion, how can the
love of God be in us?
TIME: 3 PM SUNDAY, OCTOBER 24
PLACE: ROOSEVELT PARK, 19^TH AND SANTA CLARA ST., SAN JOSE





From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 21 15:16:55 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:16:55 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] UNA Film Festival
Message-ID: <4CC0BBD7.5040805@earthlink.net>


FYI,

The United Nations Association Film Festival begins
tomorrow night:

     http://unaff.org/

Apparently the themss are population, migration,
and globalization.

For example, at 7:25, Friday at the Aquarius is
"Climate Refugees".

Gerry


From tnharter at aceweb.com  Thu Oct 21 17:52:51 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 17:52:51 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Good press about Bike Party in the Mercury!
Message-ID: <4CC0E063.1010706@aceweb.com>

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_16390626?IADID
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added an event writeup of Bike Party's Zombie Ride!
The green horn fair trade icon is on a 1994 quarter (25c USA coin).


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Oct 22 22:10:20 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 22:10:20 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior State
Message-ID: <4CC26E3C.70302@sbcglobal.net>


leedobell at aol.com wrote on 10-22

I already volunteered to haul stuff over there and to table.
I would like more details, like, for exAMPLE,
WHAT TIME WE CAN TAKE OUR STUFF IN,

Unfortunately, the organizers have not as yet set the time.
But they will and with enough time in advance that we can plan
our personal schedules for that day.

Jim Doyle

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>
To: sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Cc: warner bloomberg <wsb3attyca at aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 21, 2010 12:05 pm
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item for 11-3

Tabling at Junior State on Saturday November 20-th.
Need to discuss crew and materials.
I.e., need volunteers.

Jim Doyle

___________




From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 23 11:29:05 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 11:29:05 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Teaching the Dems a Lesson
Message-ID: <BAY140-W4A3919384345C0C4516919E5F0@phx.gbl>


   Robert Parry calls the whole notion a myth.

     "Modern  American political history tells us that this strategy never
 works. 
After the  four key elections in which many progressives 
abandoned the 
governing Democrats  ? in 1968, 1980, 1994 and 2000 ? not 
only did Republicans 
take U.S. politics  further to the right, but the 
surviving Democrats tacked more 
to the center and  grew more timid....

             "The Left was  separating itself from practical politics; the 
Republicans were 
learning that  they could win by playing dirty; and the
 governing Democrats were 
shying away  from demanding accountability for
 Republican abuses.

            "Over the next 42  years, all three of these patterns have deepened, combining 
to create a  political crisis for the nation."
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/10/15-7


    It's an insightful essay, and tells a story that's new for me:  In 1968 Nixon pulled
a pre-election move that foreshadowed the October Surprise of 1980.  It seems
that Lyndon Johnson had pretty much brokered a settlement to the Vietnam War, 
so Humphrey would be able to end it quick if he were elected.  Nixon's people
went to the South Vietnamese and convinced them they'd get a better deal if they
stayed out of the peace talks until after Nixon was elected, and they did.  Johnson 
caught wind of this before the election and considered exposing it, but was 
reigned in by Dems who feared that if Nixon won anyway, the damage to his
legitimacy might be harmful to the nation.  Sound familiar?   Later Lee Hamilton
would cover up the October Surprise and Clinton would cover up Iran-Contra 
for much the same reason (and Hamilton would go on to become co-chair of the
9/11 Commission).

   Parry makes some good points, but he lost me near the end when he left out 
the 2004 election.   Of the four elections cited above, I only voted in one, the 1994--
and that was to vote a corrupt Democrat, Dan Rostenkowski, out.  In 2004 I joined
most in the left by voting for Kerry--and he kicked us in the teeth.  He failed to 
demand a recount though in his promise that he would see that every vote was
counted he had mentioned the fact that two million black votes fall through the 
cracks in every election.  His failure to explain the "flip flop" flap and counterattack 
by pointing out that Bush had threatened to veto the legislation supporting the 
troops made it appear to me that he was trying to lose.  He was inexcusably lame,
and other leading Dems proved just as lame.

  Parry blames the lefties that Nixon kept the Vietnam war going, that Bush kept
climate change going, and that scumbag Dems roll over and play dead when 
scumbag Republicans engage in criminal dirty tricks.  Sorry Rob, I'm not buying it.


   








  








 		 	   		  
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From MLause at cinci.rr.com  Sat Oct 23 11:44:36 2010
From: MLause at cinci.rr.com (Mark A. Lause)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:44:36 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Teaching the Dems a Lesson
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W4A3919384345C0C4516919E5F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W4A3919384345C0C4516919E5F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <498507CD0E40478BB0D46EE196D8913A@HewDownstairs>

Anyone contemplating a Democratic vote this election needs to be very clear about what that means in the real world...not just between our own ears.   

Stop fooling youself.  

Everybody in the real world will very reasonably interpret a vote for the Democrats to be a vote for what the Democrats have done for the last two years...and a mandate for them to do more of the same in the future.  

I'm 60 years old and all my progressive friends who vote Democratic repeatedly tell me that I'm impractical and utopian to be a Green.  What, I've asked them, have your Democratic votes done in the last 40 years?  Your sheep-like loyalty has allowed the Democratic party to follow the money further and further to the right.  Now you want to vote for people who advocate firing teachers as a solution to the education problems and who say "fuck the UAW" as they set aside union contracts and protect the bonuses for the CEOs.

How dumb are we Americans anyway?

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 23 13:23:36 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 13:23:36 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Teaching the Dems a Lesson
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W4A3919384345C0C4516919E5F0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W4A3919384345C0C4516919E5F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4CC34448.2010200@earthlink.net>


Brian,

You might try telling Parry that.

I have been getting a *** LOT *** of emails talking
about how the sky will fall if the Ds don't get
enough support.  They may even be right.  And maybe
the sky will fall if the Ds win.

Today on NPR, one person said something like
" ... the next speaker will be XXX?  (pause)
if the Republicans win ..."  That pundit clearly
expects the Rs to take the House.  It seems many
consider it a done deal about the House.

So far, my money / assistance has gone to
Laura Wells (G)
Ben Manski  (G)
Bernie Sanders (I)
SF Mime Troupe
Marcy Winograd (D) (endorsed by Daniel Ellsberg)
                    (lost in primary)
Californians for Fair Elections (Prop 15)

Gerry



Brian Good wrote:
>   Robert Parry calls the whole notion a myth.
>
> "Modern American political history tells us that this strategy never works.
> After the four key elections in which many progressives abandoned the
> governing Democrats ? in 1968, 1980, 1994 and 2000 ? not only did
> Republicans
> take U.S. politics further to the right, but the surviving Democrats
> tacked more
> to the center and grew more timid.... "The Left was separating itself
> from practical politics; the Republicans were
>
> learning that they could win by playing dirty; and the governing
> Democrats were
>
> shying away from demanding accountability for Republican abuses.
> "Over the next 42 years, all three of these patterns have deepened,
> combining
>
> to create a political crisis for the nation."
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/10/15-7
>
> It's an insightful essay, and tells a story that's new for me: In 1968
> Nixon pulled
> a pre-election move that foreshadowed the October Surprise of 1980. It seems
> that Lyndon Johnson had pretty much brokered a settlement to the Vietnam
> War,
> so Humphrey would be able to end it quick if he were elected. Nixon's people
> went to the South Vietnamese and convinced them they'd get a better deal
> if they
> stayed out of the peace talks until after Nixon was elected, and they
> did. Johnson
> caught wind of this before the election and considered exposing it, but was
> reigned in by Dems who feared that if Nixon won anyway, the damage to his
> legitimacy might be harmful to the nation. Sound familiar? Later Lee
> Hamilton
> would cover up the October Surprise and Clinton would cover up Iran-Contra
> for much the same reason (and Hamilton would go on to become co-chair of the
> 9/11 Commission).
>
> Parry makes some good points, but he lost me near the end when he left out
> the 2004 election. Of the four elections cited above, I only voted in
> one, the 1994--
> and that was to vote a corrupt Democrat, Dan Rostenkowski, out. In 2004
> I joined
> most in the left by voting for Kerry--and he kicked us in the teeth. He
> failed to
> demand a recount though in his promise that he would see that every vote was
> counted he had mentioned the fact that two million black votes fall
> through the
> cracks in every election. His failure to explain the "flip flop" flap
> and counterattack
> by pointing out that Bush had threatened to veto the legislation
> supporting the
> troops made it appear to me that he was trying to lose. He was
> inexcusably lame,
> and other leading Dems proved just as lame.
>
> Parry blames the lefties that Nixon kept the Vietnam war going, that
> Bush kept
> climate change going, and that scumbag Dems roll over and play dead when
> scumbag Republicans engage in criminal dirty tricks. Sorry Rob, I'm not
> buying it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Oct 23 13:30:03 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 13:30:03 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] A letter to my Reps
Message-ID: <4CC345CB.7080900@earthlink.net>


Remember when the President's press secretary was
complaining about the "Professional Left"?  Below
was my response.  It was sent to my reps on or
soon after August 14.

Gerry

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From fredd at freeshell.org  Sat Oct 23 22:04:11 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:04:11 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] A letter to my Reps
In-Reply-To: <4CC345CB.7080900@earthlink.net>
References: <4CC345CB.7080900@earthlink.net>
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On 10/23/10 1:30 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> Remember when the President's press secretary was
> complaining about the "Professional Left"?  Below
> was my response.  It was sent to my reps on or
> soon after August 14.

> Gerry
I appreciated your "good letter to ...(your)...Rep.".

The NGOs, Public Citizen and People for the American Way, are leading a 
movement to overturn (with a constitutional amendment) the Supreme 
Court's ruling that gives corporations political (people) power to 
finance their political friends.  PC and PFAW are promoting a 
constitutional amendment, of which you are no doubt aware.

I'm hoping the Green Party's leading activists are gearing up to promote
the movement in the party and by the party.

Fred





> Gerry
>
>
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Sun Oct 24 14:55:48 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:55:48 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] An ask for help from Prop 19]
Message-ID: <4CC4AB64.4030807@aceweb.com>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[GPCA-CCWG] An ask for help from Prop 19
Date: 	Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:34:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Kendra Gonzales <earthworks_works at yahoo.com>
To: 	vcgreens at lists.riseup.net
CC: 	Green Party Campaigns & Candidates <gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>



Prop 19 supporters - Here's your chance to help make it legal.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:     Re: An ask for help from Prop 19
Date:     Wed, 20 Oct 2010 15:44:36 -0400
From:     Alex Arsenault <alex at taxcannabis.org
<mailto:alex at taxcannabis.org>>
To:     Clearinghouse <gpca at cagreens.org <mailto:gpca at cagreens.org>>



         Hello California Green Party!  This is Alex Arsenault, deputy field
         director for the Yes on 19 campaign.  I am emailing the Green
         party to
         see if you guys would be willing to email our calling tool out
         to your
         activist email list. You can link to it at www.yeson19.com/call
         <http://www.yeson19.com/call>
         <http://www.yeson19.com/call>, it is a very simple phone banking
         software and includes a training video on the site.  I know that
         there
         are many supportive members of the Green party, and the
         opportunity to
         call from home is a great way to help out Prop 19.

         Thanks so much for supporting Prop 19!  Let me know if you have any
         questions or need anything from us.

         -Alex


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 25 02:18:19 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 02:18:19 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Wikileaks on Iraq
Message-ID: <4CC54B5B.2060401@earthlink.net>


About what the documents showed...

"The Shaming of America"

     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/10/24

Gerry



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Oct 25 17:38:20 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:38:20 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Advances in Weather Forecasting
Message-ID: <4CC622FC.4040608@aceweb.com>

 >
 > *David Reynolds*
 >
 > *Advances in Weather Forecasting*
 >
 >
 > For the last ten years, David Reynolds has been in charge of the
 > National Weather Service (NWS) forecast office that provides forecasts,
 > watches, and warnings for the greater 11 county San Francisco and
 > Monterey Bay Area. The National Weather Service is part of the National
 > Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, within the Dept. of 
Commerce.
 >
 > NOAA is completing its 2020 Strategic Plan, within which are described
 > future technologies and decision support services impacting the NWS.
 > These will be highlighted. In addition, Mr. Reynolds will review an 
ongoing
 > research program called the Hydrometeorological Testbed (HMT), which is
 > being conducted within the greater Bay Area, and whose goal is to improve
 > forecasting of extreme rainfall events leading to flooding. Finally, Mr.
 > Reynolds will briefly discuss a planned statewide drill called ArkStorm
 > that will test the state?s ability to respond to a catastrophic flood,
 > or what could be called California?s Katrina. This drill is an outgrowth
 > of the research from HMT and is part of the USGS Hazard Mitigation 
Program
 > and follow-on to the Great Shake-Out conducted in southern California.
 >
Mr. Reynolds began his talk by explaining that the Monterey Office
supplies the forecasts that are the foundation of many weather reports.
Not just the ones used by broadcast media, but also pinpoint forecasts
used by tug boats, airports, and other special applications. Groups like
firefighters sometimes ask questions like "is it safe enough to drop
flame retardant on this wildfire?", which can be nontrivial to answer.

The NWS computer system puts all of the current weather information
into a grid inside their computer system. Current weather information
includes measurements from observation posts (airports, volunteers,
weather buoys, etc.), satellite data, and interpolations for data points
between measurements. This is then crunched with weather models to
predict the conditions for the next seven days. People can access these
forecasts in a variety of ways, including over the internet from cell
phones and laptops.

Mr. Reynolds spent quite a bit of time talking about weather forecasts
for San Francisco Airport (SFO). Because of the fog, we have 97% of our
delays caused by weather. Only Denver has a higher percentage, 98%.
A team including the NWS, San Jose State, NASA and others worked
together to develop a better weather predicting model. They developed
one good enough that they could schedule airplane arrivals for just
after the weather clears. This required as much as five hours or more of
accurate lead time, because they take off from distant cities. Delays
cost airlines at least $74/minute that airplanes stay airborne. Since
going live in 2004 the new system has saved $4.2 million per year.

The NWS has two interesting special forecasts, space forecasts and
tsunami warnings. Space forecasts are valuable to the national security
and communications industries. Solar flare activity is currently low
compared to most of the previous decade. Sun spots are expected to peak
again in 2014. Tsunami warning systems have gotten more integrated
around the Pacific since that Indonesian one that killed a lot of people
a couple of years ago. NWS is looking to improve their coverage in the
Caribbean.

The NWS likes to improve data collection by partnering with other
institutions. KPIX (CBS 5) has a weather radar that has significantly
improved the ability of the NWS to predict flooding in the Russian River
watershed. They also partner with individuals, who can maintain weather
stations in their back yards and report the information for inclusion in
the data grid that is used to make forecasts. This can improve the
accuracy of the results.

Another tool for improving forecasts is NEXRAD Dual Polarization radar,
which produces better quality images. The NWS plans to retrofit this
into all 122 of their weather radar stations over the next four years.

The NWS has a very sophisticated computer system, including "Two
redundant IBM Power6-based systems containing 156 nodes (32 processors
per node), 4 GB memory/physical processor and IBM's AIX-based high
performance computing parallel environment including GPFS. Each system
is capable of delivering 73TF as measured by Linpack benchmark code.
Each operational system supports a 320 TB disk storage subsystem
providing sustained performance of not less than 9 GB/sec for write and
10 GB/s for read." These are primarily used for weather forecasting.
Compute time is scheduled far into the future for things like daily
forecasts and climate model testing.

Looking forward, the NWS has to deal with changes in the demands of
office holders, new technology, budget constraints, and the marketplace.
Their goal is to continue to provide an accurate and timely forecast
so that increased industry reliance on the forecast can just be cost
effective planning.

During Q&A the following details were added:

It takes the NWS ten years to adopt a new technology. That's way down
from what it used to take.

The highest risk of flooding in the USA is in New Orleans. The second
highest risk of flooding is in Sacramento. California's worst recorded
floods to date happened in 1862.

This year we expect a dryish winter. It's a La Nina which will push the
precipitation to the north of us.

Models don't predict the behavior of boundary layers very well. Too much
turbulence there.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Wakame Chazuke on your salad is delicious!


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Oct 25 21:10:14 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:10:14 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Help!  DOes nayone know ...
Message-ID: <4CC654A6.7090803@earthlink.net>


I have had 2 calls to the GP phone number.

1) A woman who is registered to vote but is
    unlisted otherwise got a letter from someone
    asking this woman to vote for some candidate.
    And the letter said it was not paid by the
    candidate or the party.  She wanted to know
    the letter writer got her address.

    I know that candidate campaigns and parties
    are entitled to access to the coter rolls,
    but what about a campaign independent of
    candidate and party?

2) A man called who wants to campaign for Duane.
    Apparently he has tried to communicate with
    the Duan campaign with some response, but not
    enough.  Can we help him out?

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 26 07:24:04 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:24:04 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Invitation
Message-ID: <4CC6E484.60606@earthlink.net>


Here's an invitation from Laura Wells for an
election night party.

Gerry

---------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------

As election day 2010 approaches,  I'm looking forward to the next step, 
where we'll play an important role in the movement that is building. We 
will use everything we've learned and gathered and organized in this new 
longer term campaign. We're calling it  Win With Green in 2014!   And by 
the way, 2012 and 2010 too.

If you are able, please join me when the new campaign starts, at 8:00 
p.m. on November 2.

WHO: You and friends and family
WHAT: Election Night Party - and KICKOFF!
WHEN: Tuesday, November 2, 8:00 p.m.
WHERE:  La Estrellita Cafe and Bar, 446 E. 12th St., corner of 5th Ave 
near Laney College, Oakland
HOW:  RSVPs (yes, maybe...) help us plan, info at LauraWells.org, 510-225-4005
WHY: We'll celebrate the California we want, and the plans we have to 
get there!

Hope to see you!

A better California is possible,
Laura

P.S. Many of you know, and were there, when I was arrested at the 
gubernatorial debate in San Rafael on October 12 -- for being a 
candidate for governor!  Check out facebook and/or my website blog. 
Unbelievable.

P.P.S. Please consider any duplicate invitations you may receive as an 
expression of how strongly you're invited!

Laura Wells
Green Party Candidate for Governor
P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610

(510) 225-4005
info at LauraWells.org
www.LauraWells.org




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 26 07:27:28 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:27:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: Have you heard about Proposition
	26?
Message-ID: <4CC6E550.5040604@earthlink.net>


FYI,

Gerry

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From wrolley at charter.net  Tue Oct 26 08:04:03 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:04:03 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: Have you heard about
 Proposition 26?
In-Reply-To: <4CC6E550.5040604@earthlink.net>
References: <4CC6E550.5040604@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CC6EDE3.20901@charter.net>

Thanks for forwarding the info on Prop 26.  From what I have read., the 
oil money has stopped flowing to Prop 23 and is now working to defeat 
Prop 26.   I have gotten a recent mailer to that effect.

You can read more about it on Joe Romm'sClimate Progress 
<http://climateprogress.org/2010/10/21/prop-26%E2%80%B2s-dirty-backers-flee-from-political-poison-of-prop-23/> 
site.
> The language of Prop 26 would open the implementation of AB32 to new 
> avenues of legal challenges and obstruction based on a ?hidden taxes? 
> argument, and is a fall-back defense for opponents of clean energy if 
> Prop 23 fails. The oil-fueled Tea Party effort to kill California?s 
> climate law is foundering 
> <http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1021-prop-poll-20101021,0,1066812.story>, 
> as the state?s voters turn against the idea that pollution is good 
> business. A new poll finds that support for Prop 23, which would 
> suspend the clean energy law AB32, has collapsed, despite the millions 
> of dollars 
> <http://climateprogress.org/2010/09/04/koch-industries-valero-tesoro-proposition-23/> 
> pumped into the state by Midwest oil companies Tesoro, Valero, and 
> Koch Industries, and the AstroTurf efforts of Koch?s Americans for 
> Prosperity

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 26 11:05:43 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:05:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Bill Black and Foreclosurehamlet.org on MSNBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W9876403F0EFDB67086BC69E420@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W9876403F0EFDB67086BC69E420@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY140-W11B9AF4EA72F4ABC0E13459E420@phx.gbl>


Foreclosure crisis and fraud









http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#39836703




Lisa Epstein:  
http://www.foreclosurehamlet.org/



But that's not all!  At 5:30 see Bill
Black, Professor of Law and Economics atU of Missouri KC law school:  




By 2006, 49% of mortgage originations
were liars' loans.



There were millions of acts of frauds. 
The banks made incentives to attract the worst possible loans.



The Fed got Congress to pervert
accounting standards so the Fed would not have to recognize that it
took $1.5 billion in toxic assets.  Bring in the FDIC and the GAO to
investigate. 




In the S&L crisis there were 1000
convictions.  None today.  Fire Holder, fire Geithner, fire Bernanke.
Foreclose on Bank Fraudsters: 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black



Bill Black first came on my radar from Carol Brouillet's report here:
http://www.communitycurrency.org/chicagoreport.html

 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Oct 26 15:06:16 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:06:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Props 23 and 26
Message-ID: <4CC750D8.4040602@earthlink.net>


FYI ...

As you may know already, both Props 23 and 26 are relevant
to global warming.  At the moment Prop 23 has a good lead,
9but it could vanish by election day.  And Prop 26 is close.

I have been told there is a lot of moeny from oil companies
and other companies (alcohol, tobacco?!?) to pass Prop 26.

Below is a recent email with info from the "No on Prop 23"
campaign about Props 23 and 26.  It also has a request for
a final GOTV effort.

If you want to know more from other sources, here are
web pages from the California Secretary of State:

Prop 23: http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/23/

Prop 26: http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/propositions/26/

Both pages include links to two web pages representing
opposing sides.

Just in case you need / want it ...
Some other web sites for more info:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/imani/detail?entry_id=75400

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.feature/id/1858?utm_source=Sailthru

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/10/26/18662300.php

Gerry
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From jims at greens.org  Tue Oct 26 19:29:03 2010
From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:29:03 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Help!  DOes nayone know ...
In-Reply-To: <4CC654A6.7090803@earthlink.net>
References: <4CC654A6.7090803@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CC78E6F.20708@greens.org>

My two cents...

Anyone can buy voter lists if they're not used for commercial purposes.

I don't think there's anything the GPSCC can do about Duane's campaign. Tell 
the guy it's a low budget, volunteer campaign staff and he should just be 
persistent in contacting them.

Jim



On 10/25/2010 9:10 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> I have had 2 calls to the GP phone number.
>
> 1) A woman who is registered to vote but is
> unlisted otherwise got a letter from someone
> asking this woman to vote for some candidate.
> And the letter said it was not paid by the
> candidate or the party. She wanted to know
> the letter writer got her address.
>
> I know that candidate campaigns and parties
> are entitled to access to the coter rolls,
> but what about a campaign independent of
> candidate and party?
>
> 2) A man called who wants to campaign for Duane.
> Apparently he has tried to communicate with
> the Duan campaign with some response, but not
> enough. Can we help him out?
>
> Gerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Oct 26 21:04:33 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:04:33 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Help!  DOes nayone know ...
In-Reply-To: <4CC78E6F.20708@greens.org>
References: <4CC654A6.7090803@earthlink.net> <4CC78E6F.20708@greens.org>
Message-ID: <4CC7A4D1.6050305@aceweb.com>

We could offer him a stack of Duane Roberts flyers, or at least a .pdf
so he can print them out for friends. Ask him to post them on community
bulletin boards and so forth.

Jim Stauffer wrote:
> My two cents...
> 
> Anyone can buy voter lists if they're not used for commercial purposes.
> 
> I don't think there's anything the GPSCC can do about Duane's campaign. 
> Tell the guy it's a low budget, volunteer campaign staff and he should 
> just be persistent in contacting them.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/25/2010 9:10 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>>
>> I have had 2 calls to the GP phone number.
>>
>> 1) A woman who is registered to vote but is
>> unlisted otherwise got a letter from someone
>> asking this woman to vote for some candidate.
>> And the letter said it was not paid by the
>> candidate or the party. She wanted to know
>> the letter writer got her address.
>>
>> I know that candidate campaigns and parties
>> are entitled to access to the coter rolls,
>> but what about a campaign independent of
>> candidate and party?
>>
>> 2) A man called who wants to campaign for Duane.
>> Apparently he has tried to communicate with
>> the Duan campaign with some response, but not
>> enough. Can we help him out?
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Wakame Chazuke on your salad is delicious! 1998


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 27 15:39:17 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:39:17 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items for next Wednesday
Message-ID: <4CC8AA15.10504@sbcglobal.net>

discussion of priorities, namely
1) candidates, campaigning for them, funding them
2)  along the way
    voter registration, activists, funding

that in view of  the next (partisan) elections in
February and June of 2012 which are
only some 475 days and  600 days away
----
Invited speakers - what will we do with the information
they provide us in furthering the priorities?
-----

Jim Doyle





From tnharter at aceweb.com  Wed Oct 27 21:14:47 2010
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:14:47 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: [GPCA-CCWG] You are Invited! GPCA Election Night
	gatherings]
Message-ID: <4CC8F8B7.6090005@aceweb.com>

Anybody want to go to Oakland on Tuesday evening?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[GPCA-CCWG] You are Invited! GPCA Election Night gatherings
Date: 	Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:28:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Kendra Gonzales <earthworks_works at yahoo.com>
To: 	Media Group Green Party <gpca-mediawg at cagreens.org>,Green Party
Campaigns & Candidates <gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org>



Fellow Greens,

We have organized 2 Election Night gatherings
(for those who do not already have plans)
For N.Calif  in Oakland and S.Calif in Santa Monica.
Both invites posted below.

Come on out to support our candidates!
Forward this Widely and Wildly!

*S.Calif: *
**
Tues., Nov. 2, 2010
7-10 PM
Earth, Wind and Flour Restaurant
2222 Wilshire Blvd.
Santa Monica, Ca. 90403
Linda Piera-Avila has reserved the back room. Enter the restaurant and
walk straight ahead, through the sports bar, to the back room. It has a
tv and wireless. She will request that they make their vegan ravioli
special available that night. They have great salads, pastas and
sandwiches as well as pizzas. Please consider making a food purchase;
pay Linda.

There is a $2 valet parking charge at the restaurant, or street parking
on Wilshire Blvd. Please do not park on residential streets as it is
restricted.

The bus lines that serve Wilshire Blvd. are the Santa Monica Big Blue
Bus #2 and Metro Rapid #720.

Candidates attending so far: Linda Piera-Avila, Lisa Green, Cynthia
Santiago, and Kit Crittenden. (others pending rsvps)

PLZ RSVP to Kendra: earthworks_works at yahoo.com
<mailto:earthworks_works at yahoo.com>
Contact person for Press: Derek Iversen at 323-481-8984
Restaurant # 310-829-7829
http://www.earthwindandflour.com <http://www.earthwindandflour.com/>
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2222+Wilshire+Boulevard,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=34.058987,-118.277148&sspn=0.008426,0.013711&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=2222+Wilshire+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+Los+Angeles,+California+90404&ll=34.03463,-118.480661&spn=0.007984,0.013711&z=16&iwloc=r0 

<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2222+Wilshire+Boulevard,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=34.058987,-118.277148&sspn=0.008426,0.013711&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=2222+Wilshire+Blvd,+Santa+Monica,+Los+Angeles,+California+90404&ll=34.03463,-118.480661&spn=0.007984,0.013711&z=16&iwloc=r0>


*N.Calif:*
You are invited!

Join me in celebrating this amazing campaign, and our next steps. At
8:00 p.m. on November 2, two things will happen. The polls will close
for 2010, and we'll begin our new long term campaign, building on the
momentum we've created. We're calling it Win With Green in 2014. By the
way, 2012 and 2010 too.

*And YES - vote Green!* We can all vote for what we *want* in
California. Vote Green every chance you get.

Here it is:

WHO:  You, your friends and family
WHAT: *Election Night Party - and KICKOFF!*
WHEN: Tuesday, November 2, 8:00 p.m.
WHERE:  La Estrellita Cafe and Bar, 446 E. 12th St., corner of 5th Ave
near Laney College, Oakland
HOW:  RSVPs -- Yes, Maybe -- will help us plan, info at LauraWells.org
<mailto:info at LauraWells.org>, 510-225-4005
WHY: *We'll celebrate the California we want, and the plans we have to
get there!*

Hope to see you!

A better California is possible,
Laura

P.S. You might or might not know: I was arrested at the gubernatorial
debate in San Rafael on October 12 -- for being a candidate for
governor!  Check out facebook and/or my website blog. Unbelievable.

**

*
*Laura Wells*
*Green Party Candidate for Governor*
P.O. Box 10727, Oakland, CA 94610
(510) 225-4005
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info at LauraWells.org <mailto:info at LauraWells.org>
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www.LauraWells.org <http://www.laurawells.org/>
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-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Wakame Chazuke on your salad is delicious! 1998
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From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:05:17 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [ppjc]  Ballot Guide for CA Propositions
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FYI,

Gerry

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 28 11:37:53 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:37:53 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "The Changing Face of Photojournalism,
	The Changing Face of War"
Message-ID: <BAY140-W23B7CADC667032C02D2279E440@phx.gbl>


Susie Linfield, Director of the Cultural Reporting & Criticism Program, NYU

Is photojournalism voyeuristic or a necessary tool that identifies and alleviates
suffering? Join Susie Linfield as she discusses the importance of photojournalism
and how it forces us to confront humanity?s capacity for cruelty and violence

THURSDAY OCTOBER 28th
5:30 p.m. / Bldg 320 Room 105
Stanford  

Free and open to the public

Ethics and War
2010/2011
A Year-Long Exploration
For more info visit:
http://ethicsinsociety.stanford.edu


Building 320 is Geology Corner, the corner of the  Quad most distant from Hoover Tower.
Parking is available near the Cantor Museum, at the Oval, and the Tressider lot.  I'm 
pretty sure it's free parking after 4 pm.






 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 28 11:46:33 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:46:33 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] UNDRIP
Message-ID: <4CC9C509.2050307@earthlink.net>


FYI,

Anyone know what UNDRIP stands for?  I learned about it during
my global warming class.  It is the "United Nations Declaration
on the Rights of Indigenous People", passed recently by the UN.
Indigenous people are more vulnerable to global warming.
(For eaxmple: the Inuits losing homes on melting permafrost in
Alaska.  For example: the Polynesians losing homes, islands,
and countries in the Pacific.)

It is in the news (somewhat) because The Obama Administration
is considering endorsing it.

It is estimated that there are about 370,000,000 indigenous
people worldwide.  That's more than the population of the US.

For more info:

News item from the Inter Press Service
     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/10/15-8

 From the Indian Law Resource Center:
     http://indianlaw.org/
(It includes an easy way of sending an "email" to Obama.)

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Oct 28 12:11:07 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:11:07 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "The Changing Face of Photojournalism,
 The Changing Face of War"
In-Reply-To: <BAY140-W23B7CADC667032C02D2279E440@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY140-W23B7CADC667032C02D2279E440@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4CC9CACB.8030601@earthlink.net>


I thought it was clear that photojournalism has a
significant impact.  I think many people my age
can well remember 2 specific photos from the
Vietnam War.

But whether they can or not, remember that the US
government makes it difficult for the media to
photograph coffins coming back from the Iraq and
Afghanistan wars.  (Hmm, is that really 2 wars or
is it one war?)

Gerry


Brian Good wrote:
> Susie Linfield, Director of the Cultural Reporting & Criticism Program, NYU
>
> Is photojournalism voyeuristic or a necessary tool that identifies and
> alleviates
> suffering? Join Susie Linfield as she discusses the importance of
> photojournalism
> and how it forces us to confront humanity?s capacity for cruelty and
> violence
>
> THURSDAY OCTOBER 28th
> 5:30 p.m. / Bldg 320 Room 105
> Stanford
>
> Free and open to the public
>
> Ethics and War
> 2010/2011
> A Year-Long Exploration
> For more info visit:
> http://ethicsinsociety.stanford.edu <http://ethicsinsociety.stanford.edu/>
>
>
> Building 320 is Geology Corner, the corner of the Quad most distant from
> Hoover Tower.
> Parking is available near the Cantor Museum, at the Oval, and the
> Tressider lot. I'm
> pretty sure it's free parking after 4 pm.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 01:28:06 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:28:06 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Oliver Stone's "South of the Border" and Other
	Upcoming Events
Message-ID: <4CCA8596.9010103@earthlink.net>


FYI,

The movie "South of the Border" will be shown at the San Jose
Peace Center tonight (Friday night) and tomorrow (Saturday
afternoon).

Gerry

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From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:49:43 -0700
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Gerry

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Oct 29 13:23:14 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:23:14 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] News from Fair Vote
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Here is part of an email from Fair Vote ( http://fairvote.org ).

I find the second paragraph amusing.

But North Carolina is having the first statewide RCV,
(third paragraph)???  As a damn Yankee, remembering
that Jesse Helms was from North Carolina, I am surprised
by that.  Why North Carolina?

Gerry


==========================


But there's a special reason for those of you who want to be a part of 
California electoral reform history. Four Bay Area cities (San 
Francisco, Oakland, San Leandro and Berkeley) are having hotly contested 
elections with ranked choice voting (RCV), also called instant runoff 
voting). At least one more (San Jose) is seriously considering putting 
RCV on the ballot in the next couple years.

Meanwhile, major elections around the country demonstrate why it's time 
for our politics to evolve to accommodate more voter choice. Several 
races for U.S. Senate and governor (see FairVote's "non-majority rule" 
blog) have three candidates polling over 10%. The major party candidates 
in fact have become the dreaded "spoilers" in Colorado and Florida, with 
the New York Times reporting that former president Bill Clinton 
campaigned for Democrat Kendrick Meek in his U.S. Senate race in Florida 
- and then asked him to drop out so that independent Charlie Crist would 
have a better chance to win.

Fortunately, we're helping to make ranked choice voting a bigger 
national story - and real option for our elections. See this piece in 
Newsweek magazine and an excellent new commentary by former Vermont 
governor and presidential candidate Howard Dean. Find out more about the 
nation's first-ever statewide general election with RCV in North Carolina.


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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 29 16:14:26 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:14:26 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Daniel Ellsberg Movie Tonight, 7:45
Message-ID: <BAY140-W3C442E93F9B1E49C2D9449E450@phx.gbl>


"The Most Dangerous Man in America"  

Annenberg Auditorium, Stanford (next to Hoover Tower)
7:45 pm

An inspiring and informative look at the leaker of the Pentagon Papers

Executive Producer was Code Pink's Jodie Evans

Unofficial word is that Dr. Ellsberg will be there in person for Q&A


 		 	   		  
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From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Oct 29 20:56:48 2010
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:56:48 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: A Voters' Revolt Against Two-Party Rule (SM,
	OpEdNews.com)
Message-ID: <4CCB9780.4070806@charter.net>

A welcome rant from GPUS Press Secretary.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	A Voters' Revolt Against Two-Party Rule (SM, OpEdNews.com)
Date: 	Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:00:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	Scott McLarty <scottmclarty at yahoo.com>
To: 	dcsgp at yahoogroups.com



A Voters' Revolt Against Two-Party Rule
The real lesson of 2010: End the stranglehold of the Titanic Parties on US elections

By Scott McLarty
OpEdNews.com, October 29, 2010
http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-Voters-Revolt-Against-T-by-Scott-McLarty-101029-859.html


It's time to face the music. There is no hope for real change as long as politics in America is stuck in the two-party groove.

Most Americans recognize that the Democratic and Republican parties have failed to serve the public interest. According to a September 17 Gallup poll, 58% of Americans said a "third major party was needed" while only 35% believe that the Democrats and Republicans adequately represent the public (http://www.gallup.com/poll/143051/Americans-Renew-Call-Third-Party.aspx).

Maybe the 58% have concluded that they've been ignored by a pair of political parties awash in corporate money and influence, and that the gap between the wealthy and the rest of us will keep growing regardless of which of the two parties is in power. Maybe they've realized that a country with a population as large and diverse as the US should have more than just two parties.

In the 2010 election, Democrats have offered no credible message about "change we can believe in," about helping Americans regain control of their lives, restoring accountability and the rule of constitutional law, or ending the wars. Meanwhile, Republicans repackaged disastrous Bush-Cheney ideas as Tea Party populism and appealed to the worst prejudices of some voters about Barack Obama.

GOP intimidation pushed Dems into further compromises and betrayals of their own voting base. The only consistent reason to vote for many Democrats on Election Day 2010 is "We're not as awful as the Republicans." Or as Jon Stewart said on The Daily Show, "Democrats this year seem to be running on, 'Please baby, one more chance.'"

It's dishonest to claim there's no difference between Democrat and Republican. But the parties stand for a very narrow range of ideas, with positions on important issues of the day that often coincide.

Sometimes, Democrats and Republicans seem to disagree sharply, but the premises underlying their respective arguments are the same. Consider the health care reform debate. Although Dems passed a health care bill over the objections of anti-reform Republicans, both parties agreed that our health care should remain under the control of the for-profit insurance industry, which flooded both parties' congressional and presidential candidates with generous campaign checks.

Obamacare imposes mandates, requiring Americans to purchase insurance from for-profit insurers, a legally questionable idea first proposed by Republicans during the mid 1990s, and does nothing to hold down medical costs. The debate was rigged from the start. Whether Democrats passed their bill or the GOP succeeded in blocking it, the real winners would be the insurance and pharmaceutical cartels.

Democratic presidents during the past two decades have used their power to fulfill much of the GOP's agenda, accomplishing what Republican presidents left unfinished.

Which Democratic president enacted NAFTA, the 1996 Welfare Reform Act, the antigay 1996 Defense of Marriage Act and 'don't ask, don't tell', the 1996 Effective Antiterrorism and Death Penalty Act, and the 1998 Telecommunications Act (allowing ownership of media by a tiny number of conglomerates); expanded the war on drugs and for-profit prison system (incarcerating record numbers of Americans, especially young black and brown men); signed the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act (setting the stage for the recent economic crisis); and began talks with Republicans on cutting and privatizing Social Security? Bill Clinton, completer of the Reagan Revolution.

Which Democratic president escalated the Afghanistan War, protected Bush officials who okayed torture and other abuses of the US Constitution and international law, maintained warrantless spying on US citizens, hired Wall Street front men like Tim Geithner and Larry Summers, authorized more taxpayer-funded Wall Street bailouts and new taxpayer-funded nuclear plants, appointed a 'Catfood Commission' to explore Social Security reductions, opened up more coastal waters to offshore drilling, promoted the myth of 'clean coal' and permitted more mountaintop removal mining, and left a substantial residual occupation force, including military contractors, in Iraq? You know who.

By retreating from their stated values and traditional constituencies, Dems have opened up the space for ever greater Republican extremes. If you were appalled by Bush-Cheney, imagine the next Republican White House. Sarah Palin gives us hint of what to expect, even if she has no hope of winning the nomination. (Fascism is an ugly word -- let's call it Foxism.) And think about how quickly Democratic leaders will adopt the next GOP administration's worst ideas.

This pattern is long overdue for an interruption. The drift of bipartisan politics towards repressive and belligerent extremes, towards more corporate power and less accountability to the public and to the law, will continue until the two established parties -- let's call them the Titanic Parties (coined by 2010 California Green gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells) -- lose their stranglehold.

What we need is a voters' revolt. We'll see a real change for the better when voters stop voting exclusively for Titanic Party politicians declared acceptable by the major media, and instead vote for candidates they actually agree with.

In many races, there are already Green, Libertarian, Socialist, and other alternative party and independent candidates on the ballot. But voters often don't get to learn about these candidates. Or they assume that such candidates are unelectable and therefore not worth voting for.

The revolt will occur when a critical mass of voters becomes frustrated enough to abandon the Titanic Parties.

Some Democrats, especially progressives, insist that we keep voting Democrat to hold the GOP at bay. Sure, we're all alarmed by the prospect of another Republican White House and Congress. But this kind of thinking has resulted in a Democratic Party that routinely takes progressive votes for granted.

Courageous Dems like Dennis Kucinich, John Conyers, and others have been marginalized within their own party, thanks to the Democratic Leadership Council, the blue dogs, and the Rahm Emanuel crowd. They mainly serve to herd progressive voters behind Democratic nominees who reject their agenda.

Progressive, pro-environmental, and antiwar voters who can't see beyond the Democratic Party have cooperated in their own defeat. Most of the crowd at the "One Nation, Working Together" rally at the Lincoln Memorial on October 2 offered no challenge to President Obama or the current Democratic Congress. Not one speaker suggested that, if President Obama ended all military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and called the troops home, we'd have enough in the federal budget to cover urgent human needs.

"After spending millions to assemble a multitude, Big Labor, the NAACP and the usual Black entertainers -- Reverends Sharpton and Jesse Jackson -- could not fix their trembling lips to utter one demand to the Power in the White House, whose disfavor they fear even more than they dread the white nationalist hordes of the Tea Party," wrote Glen Ford in Black Agenda Report ("Ignominious Surrender On The Mall," October 6, http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/ignominious-surrender-mall).

There is no hope for rehabilitation of the Democratic Party, certainly not as long as corporate money remains the center of gravity in US politics and Dems keep signing onto GOP agenda in a vain attempt to seize the middle ground. The party's leaders try to appease the GOP and appeal to Republican voters because they assume that Democratic voters will always remain faithful, having nowhere else to turn. Take away that assumption, and the whole dynamic of US politics changes.


Agenda for a Voters' Revolt

A voters' revolt against two-party rule must begin with the existing alternative parties, which already have some infrastructure and a degree of electoral experience.

Should the Tea Party play a role? Those Tea Partiers at the local level who regard themselves as independent of the GOP and have protested the bailouts of the financial firms responsible for the recent subprime mortgage crisis and economic meltdown are very much part of the movement. Unfortunately, the Tea Party movement has been hijacked by GOP operatives, by the influence of Fox News and money from corporate billionaires like the Koch brothers, and by phony populists and corporate royalists like Sarah Palin (who endorsed the bailout in September 2008), New Gingrich, Glenn Beck, and Rush Limbaugh. (See "Tea Party ?founder?: Palin, Gingrich a ?joke?" by Daniel Tencer, The Raw Story, http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/10/tea-party-founder-slams-tea-party/)

We should also be wary of Thomas L. Friedman's vision of a third party representing the "radical center" between Democrat and Republican ("Third Party Rising," October 2, http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/03/opinion/03friedman.html). What Mr. Friedman imagines to be a gap is really an overlap, occupied by politicians who -- in the name of moderacy and bipartisanship -- are the most willing to serve corporate lobbies..

Greens, Libertarians, authentic Tea Partiers, Socialists, and other alternative parties and their allies can unite in coalition, without sacrificing their own political platforms, to set the framework for a voters' revolt. The first step would be a list of demands including the following:

? A call to elect candidates outside the Titanic Parties to Congress and state legislatures.

? Inclusive candidates' debates and abolition of the Commission on Presidential Debates (owned and run by the Democratic and Republican parties), based on the principle that voters have a right to know about all the names they'll see on the ballot and a right to vote for whichever candidates best represents their own interests and ideals, without the two-party limit.

? Various election reforms, including Proportional Representation, Instant Runoff Voting (which offsets the danger that a minority party or independent candidate might "spoil" for one of the two major parties), and other alternatives to winner-take-all elections; far-reaching campaign finance reforms; tamper-proof open-software computer voting machines; punishment for public officials who conspire to manipulate vote counts.

? Passage of the MoveToAmend amendment, which would abolish corporate 'personhood' and overturn the Citizens United ruling (http://www.movetoamend.org).

? Repeal of ballot-access laws in many states that hinder alternative parties and privilege Democrats and Republicans: for an outrageous example in one state, see "Some political parties remain outlaws in Pa." by Oliver Hall in The Philadelphia Inquirer (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20101018_Some_political_parties_remain_outlaws_in_Pa_.html).

? Repeal of rules in some states that limit the number of candidates on the ballot to two in the general election (and fierce opposition in states, like California, where such rules have been proposed).

? Rejection of the notion that voters must vote for candidates judged by polls or media commentators to be the most winnable, which reduces voting in elections to the level of betting in a horse race.

All or most of this list -- which presupposes no political ideology beyond a dedication to fair elections -- will appeal to fair-minded Democratic and Republican voters. Organizers of the voters' revolt should remember that the villains are not the voters of any party, but the Titanic Party hierarchy and the corporate paymasters, media, and debate sponsors who've used their influence to limit the range of allowable candidates and ideas.

Alternative parties are interested in the direction of our nation in the coming decades, unlike the two Titanic Parties, which can't see beyond their own rivalry. Democratic and Republican politicians and their apologists are primarily worried about whether the pendulum of public support will swing in their direction in the next election. A voters' revolt isn't only about the next election, it's about future generations and a hope that the 21st century won't be limited to the narrow, dreary politics of the two big parties.

Many of us in alternative parties have waited for a voters' revolt for years. We imagine a landscape of ideas, with a lively public debate that isn't restricted to two sides approved by corporate sponsors. We know that the election of a few alternative party candidates to Congress would cause a seismic shock, confronting Democratic and Republican Congress members with the reality that they're no longer each others' sole competition.

The only real democracy is multi-party democracy. What can we do to ignite a voters' revolt, in 2010 and beyond?








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From fredd at freeshell.org  Sat Oct 30 09:26:38 2010
From: fredd at freeshell.org (fred)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:26:38 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Money and Democracy Update
Message-ID: <4CCC473E.9000505@freeshell.org>

Worth posting on "sosfbay-discus."

fd

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Money and Democracy Update
Date: 	Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:25:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: 	Public Citizen <publiccitizen at mail.democracyinaction.org>
Reply-To: 	publiccitizen at mail.democracyinaction.org
To: 	fredd at freeshell.org



Public Citizen's 'Money and Democracy Update'
*an e-newsletter about the movement to curb corporate influence in 
politics and restore our democracy*

*Issue #36 ? October 29, 2010*

/We hope you enjoy this issue of Public Citizen's e-newsletter about the 
intersection of money and politics. This is part of the campaign we 
developed following the disastrous Supreme Court decision in /Citizens 
United v. Federal Election Commission/, which allows corporations to 
spend unlimited amounts supporting or attacking political candidates. 
We'll update you regularly with select news stories and blog posts, 
legislative developments and ways to get involved./

*Stunning Statistics of the Week:*

    * *149*: Number of independent groups that have spent money to
      influence this year?s elections (according to Federal Election
      Commission (FEC) reports through Oct. 25)
    * *$176.1 million*: Amount those groups have spent on the midterms
    * *10*: Number of groups responsible for the bulk of that spending
    * *59.9 percent*
      <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=jyOvr9e4hzMDXMPIVsTMizghQdZYxnT3>:
      The percentage of that money that comes from undisclosed sources

*Public Citizen calls on electioneering groups to disclose corporate donors*
Public Citizen has sent a letter to all groups 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=rMeA%2F%2BQ7DXk%2BNhfW%2Bsj6Blh5wqUr9anK> 
that are conducting electioneering communications or independent 
expenditures in the 2010 elections, urging them to disclose to the 
public the sources and amounts of corporate contributions they use for 
their campaign spending.

*Disclosed corporate funds are a fraction of what is hidden, heavily 
favor Republicans*
Tapping into what few disclosure records exist of campaign spending by 
outside groups in the 2010 elections, Public Citizen has identified 
about 200 corporate contributors to a mere 29 independent groups that 
have reported their funding sources to the Federal Election Commission. 
These disclosure records account for a very small fraction of the 
record-breaking campaign spending by outside groups this year, but they 
confirm a widely suspected trend: Corporate money is heavily favoring 
Republican candidates 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=wyYEM32hDDahsR%2BHRCAWIAQlUg93oFNP> 
by 11-to-1.

*BP, other firms called out for trying to elect climate change deniers *
BP is on the offense. The company is one of more than half a dozen 
polluters 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=vYbxW5%2BvtwYivM6u3wN81jghQdZYxnT3> 
named by Climate Action Network Europe as pouring money into campaigns 
for candidates who oppose climate change legislation. In a new report, 
CAN Europe says the support ?is all the more galling because the same 
companies argue that additional emissions reductions in Europe cannot be 
pursued until the United States takes action.?

*Total estimated bill for midterms: $4 billion *
The latest guesstimate 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=a%2Boj5xZ4yJe2zKMF3cTkyDghQdZYxnT3> 
from the Center for Responsive Politics of how much everybody ? 
candidates, political parties and outside groups ? will spend on the 
midterms is $4 billion.

*Citing negative ads, New Hampshire Chamber cuts ties with U.S. Chamber*
Saying that it was offended by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce?s political 
attack ads, a New Hampshire Chamber of Commerce has cut its ties to the 
national group 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=Cp6XNUkUh3NJJJ5v7lYb4zghQdZYxnT3>. 
The Greater Hudson Chamber of Commerce is not renewing its membership to 
the U.S. Chamber. The U.S. Chamber plans to spend $75 million to 
influence midterm races. The U.S. Chamber has spent more than $1.3 
million targeting Paul Hodes 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=FR7M8nkuWZVN0ti7z9ihAzghQdZYxnT3>, 
the Democratic candidate running for U.S. Senate in the Granite State.

*Gold?s Gym franchises leave after owner donates to anti-gay 
conservative group*
Remember the Target controversy? Seems as though political donations 
have landed another company in hot water. Four Gold?s Gyms franchises in 
the San Francisco area are leaving the brand because Gold?s owner gave 
$2 million 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=I2DlaLdcaVzpypOrwhwvkDghQdZYxnT3> 
to American Crossroads, the conservative group created this year by 
Republican strategist Karl Rove. American Crossroads is helping anti-gay 
candidates; the San Francisco gyms get a lot of business from the LGBT 
community.

*TARP aided companies make big donations to PACs *
Companies that received money from the Troubled Assets Relief Program, 
some of which still owe the government money, have made large donations 
to political action committees (PACs), /The Washington Post/ reports 
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Oct 30 11:40:11 2010
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 11:40:11 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Laura Wells arrest
Message-ID: <4CCC668B.4050904@sbcglobal.net>

Cres Velluci posted this to the campaign and candidates working group
email list:

Laura was arrested for just trying to sit in the audience at a
Governor Debate - when she should have been allowed to participate.

They didn't arrest anyone except for Laura - she even had a ticket to
get in the audience.

Now, she faces criminal charges and time in jail. Her court date
is - you guessed it - Tuesday, Nov. 2, election day.

Sign and pass on the petition to the DA of Marin County. Please.

Cres


http://bit.ly/freelaurawells





From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 31 01:22:34 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 01:22:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
Message-ID: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net>


As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will
be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is
unusual for a candidate.

Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday.

In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys,
and the media pay attention to how much support the
accused has.  The more supporters Laura has in court,
the better it is for Laura.  So I am asking that any
supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy,
or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's
arraignment.  Unfortunately I won't be there, I am
committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday.

Below are the details, and below that is the press
release.

Also, for those who wish to have their names on the
petition, please sign as soon as possible.  I understand
that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to
the District Attorney sometime on Monday.  I don't know
when she will be printing the petition.
     http://bit.ly/freelaurawells

INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT:

Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday
BE THERE BY 12:30.

Marin County Superior Court
3501 Civic Center Drive
San Rafael, California 94903


=========== Press Release ============

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010
Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170

ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR


GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND
CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION
SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL

SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be campaigning 
this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party gubernatorial 
candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for votes, but for 
petition signatures to keep her out of jail.

Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying to 
watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from participating), 
will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. 
(3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance).

Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition 
urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her 
misdemeanor charges.

She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to 
face those charges.

The petition states:  "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor of 
California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California Governor's 
Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She had a ticket 
and the right to attend the debate. We request that you dismiss the 
criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an investigation into why 
she was arrested."

Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for Controller 
in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who talks about 
solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess.

Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was 
promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a 
"State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student 
college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks.




From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Sun Oct 31 08:05:32 2010
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:05:32 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
In-Reply-To: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net>
References: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CCD85BC.1030104@prodsyse.com>

What do I have to do to sign the petition?  I can see where to "Login to 
the Greenchange Network", but I don't see where to sign the petition.  
Do people have to "Sign Up" with the GreenChange Network to sign the 
petition?  That's not clear, and I'm not eager to sign up.  Spencer


On 10/31/2010 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will
> be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is
> unusual for a candidate.
>
> Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday.
>
> In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys,
> and the media pay attention to how much support the
> accused has.  The more supporters Laura has in court,
> the better it is for Laura.  So I am asking that any
> supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy,
> or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's
> arraignment.  Unfortunately I won't be there, I am
> committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday.
>
> Below are the details, and below that is the press
> release.
>
> Also, for those who wish to have their names on the
> petition, please sign as soon as possible.  I understand
> that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to
> the District Attorney sometime on Monday.  I don't know
> when she will be printing the petition.
>     http://bit.ly/freelaurawells
>
> INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT:
>
> Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday
> BE THERE BY 12:30.
>
> Marin County Superior Court
> 3501 Civic Center Drive
> San Rafael, California 94903
>
>
> =========== Press Release ============
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010
> Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170
>
> ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR
>
>
> GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND
> CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION
> SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL
>
> SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be 
> campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party 
> gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for 
> votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail.
>
> Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying 
> to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from 
> participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from 
> 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance).
>
> Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition 
> urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her 
> misdemeanor charges.
>
> She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to 
> face those charges.
>
> The petition states:  "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor 
> of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California 
> Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She 
> had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you 
> dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an 
> investigation into why she was arrested."
>
> Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for 
> Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who 
> talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess.
>
> Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was 
> promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a 
> "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student 
> college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Operating Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567



From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Sun Oct 31 08:19:13 2010
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 08:19:13 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
In-Reply-To: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net>
References: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CCD88F1.20309@prodsyse.com>

Reading more carefully, I find, "The signature deadline has been reached 
for this petition."  Spencer


#########################
What do I have to do to sign the petition?  I can see where to "Login to 
the Greenchange Network", but I don't see where to sign the petition. 
Do people have to "Sign Up" with the GreenChange Network to sign the 
petition?  That's not clear, and I'm not eager to sign up.  Spencer


On 10/31/2010 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will
> be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is
> unusual for a candidate.
>
> Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday.
>
> In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys,
> and the media pay attention to how much support the
> accused has.  The more supporters Laura has in court,
> the better it is for Laura.  So I am asking that any
> supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy,
> or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's
> arraignment.  Unfortunately I won't be there, I am
> committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday.
>
> Below are the details, and below that is the press
> release.
>
> Also, for those who wish to have their names on the
> petition, please sign as soon as possible.  I understand
> that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to
> the District Attorney sometime on Monday.  I don't know
> when she will be printing the petition.
>     http://bit.ly/freelaurawells
>
> INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT:
>
> Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday
> BE THERE BY 12:30.
>
> Marin County Superior Court
> 3501 Civic Center Drive
> San Rafael, California 94903
>
>
> =========== Press Release ============
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010
> Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170
>
> ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR
>
>
> GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND
> CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION
> SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL
>
> SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be
> campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party
> gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for
> votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail.
>
> Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying
> to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from
> participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from
> 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance).
>
> Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition
> urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her
> misdemeanor charges.
>
> She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to
> face those charges.
>
> The petition states:  "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor
> of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California
> Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She
> had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you
> dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an
> investigation into why she was arrested."
>
> Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for
> Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who
> talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess.
>
> Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was
> promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a
> "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student
> college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Operating Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 31 10:55:26 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:55:26 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
In-Reply-To: <4CCD85BC.1030104@prodsyse.com>
References: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net> <4CCD85BC.1030104@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <4CCDAD8E.3090904@earthlink.net>



spencerg wrote:
> What do I have to do to sign the petition?

Go to:

	http://bit.ly/freelaurawells

and scroll down past the video, past the paragraph for
the DA.

> I can see where to "Login to
> the Greenchange Network", but I don't see where to sign the petition. Do
> people have to "Sign Up" with the GreenChange Network to sign the
> petition?

No.

That's not clear, and I'm not eager to sign up. Spencer

Me too.

Gerry

>
>
> On 10/31/2010 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>>
>> As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will
>> be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is
>> unusual for a candidate.
>>
>> Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday.
>>
>> In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys,
>> and the media pay attention to how much support the
>> accused has. The more supporters Laura has in court,
>> the better it is for Laura. So I am asking that any
>> supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy,
>> or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's
>> arraignment. Unfortunately I won't be there, I am
>> committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday.
>>
>> Below are the details, and below that is the press
>> release.
>>
>> Also, for those who wish to have their names on the
>> petition, please sign as soon as possible. I understand
>> that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to
>> the District Attorney sometime on Monday. I don't know
>> when she will be printing the petition.
>> http://bit.ly/freelaurawells
>>
>> INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT:
>>
>> Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday
>> BE THERE BY 12:30.
>>
>> Marin County Superior Court
>> 3501 Civic Center Drive
>> San Rafael, California 94903
>>
>>
>> =========== Press Release ============
>>
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010
>> Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170
>>
>> ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR
>>
>>
>> GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND
>> CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION
>> SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL
>>
>> SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be
>> campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party
>> gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for
>> votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail.
>>
>> Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying
>> to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from
>> participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from
>> 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance).
>>
>> Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition
>> urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her
>> misdemeanor charges.
>>
>> She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to
>> face those charges.
>>
>> The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor of
>> California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California Governor's
>> Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She had a
>> ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you dismiss
>> the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an investigation into
>> why she was arrested."
>>
>> Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for
>> Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who
>> talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess.
>>
>> Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was
>> promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a
>> "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student
>> college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>
>


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 31 10:59:56 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:59:56 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
In-Reply-To: <4CCD88F1.20309@prodsyse.com>
References: <4CCD274A.8050804@earthlink.net> <4CCD88F1.20309@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <4CCDAE9C.8020103@earthlink.net>


I just looked and I could not find that.

Where does it say that?

Gerry


spencerg wrote:
> Reading more carefully, I find, "The signature deadline has been reached
> for this petition." Spencer
>
>
> #########################
> What do I have to do to sign the petition? I can see where to "Login to
> the Greenchange Network", but I don't see where to sign the petition. Do
> people have to "Sign Up" with the GreenChange Network to sign the
> petition? That's not clear, and I'm not eager to sign up. Spencer
>
>
> On 10/31/2010 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>>
>> As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will
>> be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is
>> unusual for a candidate.
>>
>> Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday.
>>
>> In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys,
>> and the media pay attention to how much support the
>> accused has. The more supporters Laura has in court,
>> the better it is for Laura. So I am asking that any
>> supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy,
>> or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's
>> arraignment. Unfortunately I won't be there, I am
>> committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday.
>>
>> Below are the details, and below that is the press
>> release.
>>
>> Also, for those who wish to have their names on the
>> petition, please sign as soon as possible. I understand
>> that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to
>> the District Attorney sometime on Monday. I don't know
>> when she will be printing the petition.
>> http://bit.ly/freelaurawells
>>
>> INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT:
>>
>> Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday
>> BE THERE BY 12:30.
>>
>> Marin County Superior Court
>> 3501 Civic Center Drive
>> San Rafael, California 94903
>>
>>
>> =========== Press Release ============
>>
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010
>> Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170
>>
>> ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR
>>
>>
>> GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND
>> CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION
>> SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL
>>
>> SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be
>> campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party
>> gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for
>> votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail.
>>
>> Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying
>> to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from
>> participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from
>> 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance).
>>
>> Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition
>> urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her
>> misdemeanor charges.
>>
>> She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to
>> face those charges.
>>
>> The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor
>> of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California
>> Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She
>> had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you
>> dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an
>> investigation into why she was arrested."
>>
>> Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for
>> Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who
>> talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess.
>>
>> Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was
>> promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a
>> "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student
>> college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>
>


From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun Oct 31 11:59:50 2010
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:59:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items for next Wednesday/Updated Draft
	Agenda
Message-ID: <180cc.318a4e3d.39ff16a6@aol.com>

 
GREEN  PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY 
Draft  Agenda for Monthly General Membership Meeting November 3,  2010 
San  Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose,  CA 
(Near  7th and San Fernando) 
6:30  pm ? Eat and chat 
7:30  pm ? Begin meeting  
Select  Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher(s), Select 
Agenda Preparer  for next meeting (5 Minutes)  
Introductions  and Announcements (10 Minutes)  
Treasurer?s  Report (5 Minutes)  
General  Discussion about November 2nd Electon Results (10  Minutes) 
Need  to recruit new regional Coordinating Council member and alternate (10 
 minutes)  
Review  upcoming tabling events (see list below); Report on status of 
tabling materials  and supplies  -- Jim Doyle (15  Minutes) 
Discuss  priorities, namely
1) candidates, campaigning for them, funding  them
2)  along the way voter registration, activists, funding
that in  view of  the next (partisan) elections inFebruary and June of 2012 
which  are
only some 475 days and  600 days away --
Invited speakers - what  will we do with the information they provide us in 
furthering the  priorities?
-- Presenter:  Jim  Doyle  (Time Estimate1,000  Hours) 
(2  Hours Estimated Cumulative Times.  Goal:  Adjourn by 9:30  pm) 
Tabling Events  Addenda ? Needed for each item (not necessarily all at this 
 meeting): 
Confirm date and  location; Approval of fee payment (as applicable); 
Designation of coordinator(s)  and other volunteers  
Next Junior  Statesmen meeting ? Saturday November 20th Santa Clara 
Convention  Center 
Holiday Peace  Fair ? Saturday December 4th San Jose 
###   
Holiday  Peace Fair

Need volunteeers for set up, clean up, dessert item. volunteer  to attend 
the planning meeting on 11-6.
Line up tablers, line up sale  items.    
Tabling  at Junior State on Saturday November 20-th. Need to discuss crew 
and  materials.
I.e., need volunteers  Jim Doyle 


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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 31 12:47:07 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:47:07 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
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   I think it's great that Laura has engaged in an act of very effective civil disobedience 
to publicize the uselessness of closed Repemocrat debates.   

   Her ticket was bogus, as her accusers claim, because it was issued to someone else and
not to her.   We can challenge the ticket policy, but the claim that she had a valid ticket
is specious.  The charge of trespassing is technically correct. 



  I disagree with the notion that all candidates should have standing to appear.  I don't

want the Jesus Party and the Dog-Lovers' Party making the discussion a circus.  10% seems

a reasonable threshold and we need to challenge the Meg/Jerry/Undecided polling fiction

head on. 

  I am very enthusiastic about Laura's Green in 2014 campaign.  The open primaries may
well work for us instead of against us.  Laura can draw voters from the Dems, the Reps,
and the Decline-to-State (which when I last checked appears to be the fastest growing 
party) and can mount a realistic campaign in 2014.  There will be no excuse to exclude 
her from the pre-primary debates.

  I hope she will run for some other office in 2012 to raise awareness of her presence.
Barbara Lee's Congressional seat might not be the best venue.  How about Anna Eschoo's
seat or Zoe Lofgren's?  








> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:59:56 -0700
> From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
> To: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
> CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
> 
> 
> I just looked and I could not find that.
> 
> Where does it say that?
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
> spencerg wrote:
> > Reading more carefully, I find, "The signature deadline has been reached
> > for this petition." Spencer
> >
> >
> > #########################
> > What do I have to do to sign the petition? I can see where to "Login to
> > the Greenchange Network", but I don't see where to sign the petition. Do
> > people have to "Sign Up" with the GreenChange Network to sign the
> > petition? That's not clear, and I'm not eager to sign up. Spencer
> >
> >
> > On 10/31/2010 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
> >>
> >> As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will
> >> be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is
> >> unusual for a candidate.
> >>
> >> Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday.
> >>
> >> In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys,
> >> and the media pay attention to how much support the
> >> accused has. The more supporters Laura has in court,
> >> the better it is for Laura. So I am asking that any
> >> supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy,
> >> or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's
> >> arraignment. Unfortunately I won't be there, I am
> >> committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday.
> >>
> >> Below are the details, and below that is the press
> >> release.
> >>
> >> Also, for those who wish to have their names on the
> >> petition, please sign as soon as possible. I understand
> >> that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to
> >> the District Attorney sometime on Monday. I don't know
> >> when she will be printing the petition.
> >> http://bit.ly/freelaurawells
> >>
> >> INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT:
> >>
> >> Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday
> >> BE THERE BY 12:30.
> >>
> >> Marin County Superior Court
> >> 3501 Civic Center Drive
> >> San Rafael, California 94903
> >>
> >>
> >> =========== Press Release ============
> >>
> >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >> Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010
> >> Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170
> >>
> >> ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR
> >>
> >>
> >> GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND
> >> CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION
> >> SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL
> >>
> >> SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be
> >> campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party
> >> gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for
> >> votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail.
> >>
> >> Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying
> >> to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from
> >> participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from
> >> 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance).
> >>
> >> Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition
> >> urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her
> >> misdemeanor charges.
> >>
> >> She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to
> >> face those charges.
> >>
> >> The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor
> >> of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California
> >> Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She
> >> had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you
> >> dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an
> >> investigation into why she was arrested."
> >>
> >> Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for
> >> Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who
> >> talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess.
> >>
> >> Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was
> >> promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a
> >> "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student
> >> college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
> >>
> >
> >
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Oct 31 15:53:15 2010
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:53:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] voting for Laura
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Hey Greens, if you have any friends you will be seeing in the next day-and-a 
half that you don't ordinarily talk about politics with-----DO talk about 
politics with them. You may find, as I have, that they are in agony over who to 
vote for for governor. Tell them about Laura. I don't even see that many people, 
and I've talked at least three into voting for Laura. 

Caroline
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Oct 31 15:57:48 2010
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:57:48 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] voting for Laura
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   Since Brown has a 10-point lead there's no excuse not to vote for the best candidate, Laura Wells.




Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:53:15 -0700
From: carolineyacoub at att.net
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] voting for Laura



Hey Greens, if you have any friends you will be seeing in the next day-and-a half that you don't ordinarily talk about politics with-----DO talk about politics with them. You may find, as I have, that they are in agony over who to vote for for governor. Tell them about Laura. I don't even see that many people, and I've talked at least three into voting for Laura. 
Caroline
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Oct 31 17:40:16 2010
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:40:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
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Brian Good wrote:
>
> I think it's great that Laura has engaged in an act of very effective
> civil disobedience
> to publicize the uselessness of closed Repemocrat debates.

Well, I could be wrong, but it appears to me that this is
an inaccurate description of what happened.

What happened was complicated, so I may have some errors
myself, but as near as I can tell, this is what happened:
(I was not there, I am basing this on videos and emails.)

In this explanation I have included references to sources
where possible as S1, S2, ... S7, explained further down.

- Laura had planned to just be one of the protestors.
   I can't find a source for this.)
- Someone gave away 2 tickets.  I don't know who that
   someone was, or whether Laura knew who it was.  You
   can see him in one of the videos.  You even get a
   close up of the ticket (S5 @ 1:39) which has no name
   on it.  How was Laura supposed to know that there was
   a problem with the ticket?
- Laura and Marnie decided to watch the debate from inside
   with the two tickets.  (S5 1:35 - 1:55) (S7)
- They passed through the first line of security with no
   trouble.  (S3) (S7)
- As they were approaching the door to the building, some
   one came up and said something like "You are the Green
   Party candidate for Governor, let me see the ticket,"
   then said the ticket was invalid  (S1)
- Then they took her away.  (S3) (S5) (S7)
- Laura had not planned on being arrested, had not wanted to
   be arrested.  (I can't find a source for this.)


>
> Her ticket was bogus, as her accusers claim, because it was issued to
> someone else and
> not to her.

Apparently the ticket was valid, but she was not authorized to
use it.

> We can challenge the ticket policy, but the claim that she
> had a valid ticket
> is specious. The charge of trespassing is technically correct.

I am unclear on what basis the charge is technically correct.
Security had allowed her past the first line.  You might argue
that technically they had a right to ask her to leave the area,
and technically they might have had a right to arrest her if
she refused to leave.  Maybe.  As far as I know they never
told her that she would be arrested if she did not leave.

FWIW, the SJ Merc article says she was warned (S6).

My sources of info:

S1:
SF Chronicle:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=74454

S2:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Green-Party-Candidate-Arrested-Outside-Debate-104825169.html

S3:
http://www.kcra.com/video/25372323/detail.html

S4:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/10476668

S5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6QxZPkN3MA&NR=1

S6:
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_16327284?nclick_check=1

S7:
http://www.marinij.com/sanrafael/ci_16328485

Also, here is an interview with Laura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_69DdiEPsA&NR=1


>
> I disagree with the notion that all candidates should have standing to
> appear. I don't
> want the Jesus Party and the Dog-Lovers' Party making the discussion a
> circus. 10% seems
> a reasonable threshold and we need to challenge the Meg/Jerry/Undecided
> polling fiction
> head on.
>
> I am very enthusiastic about Laura's Green in 2014 campaign. The open
> primaries may
> well work for us instead of against us. Laura can draw voters from the
> Dems, the Reps,
> and the Decline-to-State (which when I last checked appears to be the
> fastest growing
> party) and can mount a realistic campaign in 2014. There will be no
> excuse to exclude
> her from the pre-primary debates.
>
> I hope she will run for some other office in 2012 to raise awareness of
> her presence.
> Barbara Lee's Congressional seat might not be the best venue. How about
> Anna Eschoo's
> seat or Zoe Lofgren's?

She would have to move.  She lives in Oakland now.

Gerry

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:59:56 -0700
>  > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
>  > To: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
>  > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>  > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Court Appearance - SUPPORT LAURA IN PERSON
>  >
>  >
>  > I just looked and I could not find that.
>  >
>  > Where does it say that?
>  >
>  > Gerry
>  >
>  >
>  > spencerg wrote:
>  > > Reading more carefully, I find, "The signature deadline has been
> reached
>  > > for this petition." Spencer
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > #########################
>  > > What do I have to do to sign the petition? I can see where to "Login to
>  > > the Greenchange Network", but I don't see where to sign the
> petition. Do
>  > > people have to "Sign Up" with the GreenChange Network to sign the
>  > > petition? That's not clear, and I'm not eager to sign up. Spencer
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > On 10/31/2010 1:22 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>  > >>
>  > >> As many of you know, our gubernatorial candidate will
>  > >> be spending part of Election Day on a matter that is
>  > >> unusual for a candidate.
>  > >>
>  > >> Laura Wells will be arraigned in court on Tuesday.
>  > >>
>  > >> In political cases, normally the judge, the attorneys,
>  > >> and the media pay attention to how much support the
>  > >> accused has. The more supporters Laura has in court,
>  > >> the better it is for Laura. So I am asking that any
>  > >> supporter of Laura, or civil liberties, or democracy,
>  > >> or justice, be in court if possible for Laura's
>  > >> arraignment. Unfortunately I won't be there, I am
>  > >> committed to being a pollworker all day on Tuesday.
>  > >>
>  > >> Below are the details, and below that is the press
>  > >> release.
>  > >>
>  > >> Also, for those who wish to have their names on the
>  > >> petition, please sign as soon as possible. I understand
>  > >> that Marnie Glickman will be delivering the petition to
>  > >> the District Attorney sometime on Monday. I don't know
>  > >> when she will be printing the petition.
>  > >> http://bit.ly/freelaurawells
>  > >>
>  > >> INFORMATION ON ARRAIGNMENT:
>  > >>
>  > >> Laura is in courtroom N, 1 p.m. Tuesday
>  > >> BE THERE BY 12:30.
>  > >>
>  > >> Marin County Superior Court
>  > >> 3501 Civic Center Drive
>  > >> San Rafael, California 94903
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> =========== Press Release ============
>  > >>
>  > >> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>  > >> Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010
>  > >> Contact: Laura Wells, 510-504-4254 or 916-996-9170
>  > >>
>  > >> ATTENTION WEEKEND EDITOR
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE SPENDS WEEKEND
>  > >> CAMPAIGNING FOR VOTES...AND PETITION
>  > >> SIGNATURES TO KEEP HER OUT OF JAIL
>  > >>
>  > >> SAN RAFAEL, CA. ? While Jerry Brown and Meg Whitman will be
>  > >> campaigning this weekend to become governor of California, Green Party
>  > >> gubernatorial candidate Laura Wells will be asking people not just for
>  > >> votes, but for petition signatures to keep her out of jail.
>  > >>
>  > >> Wells (www.laurawells.org) who was arrested here Oct. 12 just trying
>  > >> to watch a Governor Debate (she was already banned from
>  > >> participating), will be at the MARIN COUNTY FARMERS MARKET Sunday from
>  > >> 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. (3501 Civic Center Dr., Main Entrance).
>  > >>
>  > >> Wells will be campaigning and trying to get signatures on a petition
>  > >> urging Marin County District Attorney Edward Berberian to dismiss her
>  > >> misdemeanor charges.
>  > >>
>  > >> She is due in Marin County Criminal Court on Election Day, Nov. 2 to
>  > >> face those charges.
>  > >>
>  > >> The petition states: "Laura Wells, the Green candidate for Governor
>  > >> of California, was arrested on Oct. 12, 2010 at the California
>  > >> Governor's Debate. Her arrest is a violation of her civil rights. She
>  > >> had a ticket and the right to attend the debate. We request that you
>  > >> dismiss the criminal charge against Ms. Wells and launch an
>  > >> investigation into why she was arrested."
>  > >>
>  > >> Wells, who garnered more than 400,000 votes when she ran for
>  > >> Controller in 2002 on the Green ticket, is a financial analyst who
>  > >> talks about solutions ? not politics ? to California's budget mess.
>  > >>
>  > >> Wells wants to "reform" Prop. 13 so it benefits individuals, as was
>  > >> promised, but large corporations. She is promoting the concept of a
>  > >> "State Bank" that would make loans to residents, including student
>  > >> college loans and profit California, not private bailed-out banks.
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> _______________________________________________
>  > >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>  > >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>  > >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>  > >>
>  > >
>  > >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>  > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>  > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss