[GPSCC-chat] Civil liberties? What civil liberties?

Gerry Gras gerrygras at earthlink.net
Sat Dec 17 12:35:23 PST 2011



Wes Rolley wrote:
> On 12/17/2011 1:06 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>>
>> Glenn Greenwald makes a clear statement against the bill.
>>
>> http://www.salon.com/2011/12/16/three_myths_about_the_detention_bill/singleton/
>>
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>>
> But even Greenwald's "clear statement" against the NDAA is not inkeeping
> with the final text of the bill as passed.
>
> Sections 1031 and 1032 need to be read.
>
> When in doubt, go to the bill at thomas.loc.gov/ There are still
> problems, but not nearly as bad as painted by Greenwald's broad brush.
>

Well, I went to the text, and I fail to see where Greenwald is
incorrect.  Maybe I missed something.  Could you please point
out Greenwald's errors?

Maybe I need to explain what I was looking at.

I went to thomas.loc.gov, found bill S. 1867, went to all
Congressional Actions with Amendments, found that the last
date mentioned was 12/1.  Where it says see also H.R. 1540.

So I went to H.R. 1540, went to all Congressional Actions
with Amendments.  As near as I can tell, the "final" bill
being handed to Obama is the Conference Report:
http://conferencereport.gpo.gov/%28X%281%29S%28522vnfg0zduqzgreczujb0fn%29%29/Link.aspx?ReportId=8dEW5nme98U=&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

which points to a pdf file:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2011-12-12/pdf/CREC-2011-12-12-pt1-PgH8356-5.pdf

The text in Greenwald's column matches the text in this conference
report.  NOTE: for some reason, sections 1031 and 1032 have been
renumbered 1021 and 1022.  And Greenwald's analysis looks ok to
me as well.

Gerry




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