[GPSCC-chat] Th. 15th Meeting / Party Draft Agenda GPSCC

Tue Dec 20 12:53:02 PST 2011

The fiscal policy passed with just a few of us voicing objections about its 
necessity, accuracy and the bizarre way it became a proposal.

This was written by Mike Feistein but submitted by Humboldt County. They 
originally argued that counties have a right to put proposals directly onto 
the agenda without any committee review. I showed them that the bylaws do not 
say any such thing and they ended up with the Coordinating Committee 
sponsoring it.

During the presentation I question Mike about the origins of this proposal. He 
said he wrote it and it was reviewed by some finance committee in Humboltd. 
The problem is, Humboldt is not affected by this policy. It is the state 
committee coordinators and party officers who are subjected to this policy, 
and they weren't part of its creation or review. But that didn't matter to the 
Mike/Marnie crowd that constituted most of the delegates at the meeting, so it 
passed with a large margin.

In past times, a proposal like this would not be allowed to slither onto the 
agenda in this manner. But it's a different party now days, where this type of 
behavior is accepted and encouraged.

Jim

On 12/17/2011 7:46 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Thanks very much for the clarifications.
>
> Do you (or anyone else) know what happened with the proposed fiscal policy
> at the plenary?  The notes talk about how it was brought to the General
> Assembly, but nothing is said about whether it was passed, rejected,
> modified, etc.
>
> Thanks and happy holidays, Valerie
>
> ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:43:35
> -0800 From: Jim Stauffer<jims at greens.org> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Th. 15th Meeting / Party Draft Agenda GPSCC
>
> I've added some clarifications inline to the notes. Sometimes paraphrasing
> doesn't capture the original intent.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> On 12/15/2011 9:28 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:
>> On 12/15/2011 3:23 PM, Drew wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Message body
>>>
>>> === Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on December 15, 2011 ===
>>>
>>> Location: San Jose Peace&  Justice Center, 48 S 7th St, San Jose
>>>
>>> 6:30 PM Spencer Graves requests volunteer help on assemblying Move
>>> Your Money flyers
>>>
>>> 7:00 PM Social time: practice one-minute speeches, eat, chat, etc.
>>>
>>> 7:30 PM Begin meeting
>>>
>>> * Choose facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, vibes watcher, November
>>> agenda preparer, November one-minute speakers 2 min
>>
>> facilitator: Tian
>>
>>
>> notetaker: Spencer
>>
>>
>> timekeeper: Fred
>>
>>
>> vibes watcher: Merriam
>>
>>
>> Jan. agenda preparer: Tian (1. Betsy on Secure Communities)
>>
>>
>> Jan. one-minute speakers: Merriam
>>
>>>
>>> * Introductions and short announcements 10 min
>>
>>
>> Tian Harter: Bike parties tomorrow and Saturday night. Christmas party
>> Sunday evening, 5-9 PM. see tian.greens.org: 505 Cyprus Point Drive,
>> Mountain View, CA.
>>
>>
>> John T.
>>
>>
>> Hector Schneider, from Occupy San Jose: have to move it from Occupation
>> to a progressive movement
>>
>>
>> Spencer Graves,
>>
>>
>> Betsy Wolf-Graves: To give a 10 minute presentation at the beginning of
>> the meeting on Secure Communities in January.
>>
>>
>> Drew:
>>
>>
>> Fred D.
>>
>>
>> Merriam:
>>
>>
>> Jim Stauffer
>>
>>>
>>> * Revise and affirm agenda 4 min
>>>
>>> * Treasurer's report, pass the hat 4 min, Jim Doyle
>>>
>>> * Report from GPCA General Assembly Dec. 3-4 15 min, Jim S.&  Tian
>>
>>
>> JIM: Nothing earth shattering. Bylaw modifications of minor consequence
>> and updates of platform planks. Recommendations of names for inclusion on
>> primary presidential candidates. Jill Stein (consensus) and Kent Mesplay
>> (by only 2 votes; they had a debate and he had poor showing. People voted
>> for that, because they felt there should be 2 names on the ballot.)
>
> [Jim]  This issues was the names the GPCA sends to the Secretary of State
> for inclusion on our Presidential Primary ballot. Kent did not attend the
> presidential debate at the LA General Assembly due to illness. Some did
> not fully believe his excuse and felt he ruined the webcast debate with
> his phone-in presence. Tian also presented on this.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Confirmed Jared Laiety(sp) as liason to the Secretary of State.
>>
>>
>> This was a meeting in LA. Marnie Glickman is the "Managing Director of
>> the CA Green Party". A few locals have disassociated with the CA state
>> party over this.
>
> [Jim]  Actually, Locals have not disassociated from the state party over
> Marnie Glickman (yet). Disassociation was brought up as a possible response
> if a Local has serious problems with what the GPCA is doing. A couple
> Locals have done this in the past.
>
> [Jim]  The issue I raised about the CC was their implementation of
> Marnie's Green2012 plan, including establishing Marnie as Managing
> Director, on a 6-3 vote that did not use the consensus process to address
> concerns and proposed amendments. Green2012 has not been discussed or
> decided at a General Assembly and some of us feel the CC grossly
> over-stepped their authority.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Next Plenary in ~6 months someplace in N. CA. We can have a plenary here
>> and try to reach out to other locals.
>>
>>
>> PROPOSED: People in this group form a committee to brainstorm how to deal
>> with this: Merriam will call a County Council Meeting.
>>
>>
>> Proposed fiscal policy for the Green Party: The finance and coordinating
>> committees never looked at it. Mike Feinstein wrote it and brought it
>> directly to the General Assembly without going through the appropriate
>> committees.
>>
>>
>> Sunday morning: 2 items: AB 1148 clean money campaign. + an anti-death
>> penalty initiative.
>>
>>> * Proposal to endorse of Jan 20th Move to Amend "Occupy the Courts!"
>>> St. James Park 12-1:30p 5 minutes, Merriam Kathaleen
>>
>>
>> Fri., Jan. 20 = 2 year anniversary of the Citizens United decision. St.
>> James Park is across the street from the Courthouse wherein the original
>> "corporate personhood" decision was made in the 1880s.
>>
>>
>> Proposed: Santa Clara Greens endorse this event. Passed by consensus with
>> one stand aside.
>>
>>
>> John is still concerned about the specific language.
>>
>>
>> Q: Could Laura Wells be invited to speak?
>>
>>
>>
>>> * January Movie Night 5 min, Merriam Kathaleen
>>
>>
>> Dr. Strangelove.
>>
>>
>> John agreed to get the announcement on the Peace Center calendar AND send
>> an announcement to Spencer for the web site.
>>
>>
>> Proposed: Green Party combines with Occupy San Jose to co-sponsor movies
>> starting in February.
>>
>>
>> Latin Movie group wants to switch, so the Greens have the first Friday
>> and the Latin group does the second. Tian is one of the regulars and
>> cannot come first Friday.
>>
>>> * Proposal to endorse AB 1184: The 2012 California Disclose Act &  Sat.
>>> Jan. 7th Campaign Kickoff event @ PA Unitarian Church 2-4pm 5 min,
>>> Brian Good
>>
>>
>> State Green party has endorsed it. Requires people who pay for an ad must
>> put their names on it.
>>
>>
>> We should see if we can have a table at this event.
>>
>>
>> Santa Clara Greens also endorse the act and the event. Approved.
>>
>>> PARTY! Green is Sustainability! Drew
>>>
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>>
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>>
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