From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Feb 1 02:55:08 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 02:55:08 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Air Travel and Climate Change Message-ID: <4D47E68C.3070101@earthlink.net> The Youtube video is good, too: http://www.yesmagazine.org/planet/kicking-the-habit-air-travel-in-a-time-of-climate-change Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Feb 1 09:42:10 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:42:10 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Protest Egypt Internet Surveillance Message-ID: Narus Corp in Sunnyvale Noon Wed 2/2 Raging Grannies will be there. It's on Maude Court--Take Mary toward the bay from Central Expway 1/2 mile to Maude Park on Mary, Maude court is one block up Maude toward San Francisco http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/01/29/18670642.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The U.S. has supported the despotic regime of Hosni Mubarak for 30 years. We've seen weapons, tear gas and fighter jets all provided by the United States used against the Egyptian people. One of the abuses of the Mubarak regime has been torture of Egyptians. Today, the United States is torturing an American soldier-citizen who has not been convicted of any crime. Pfc Bradley Manning is accused of leaking a video to WikiLeaks that shows the wanton killing of civilians by American soldiers and is being investigated for leaks of diplomatic cables and Iraq and Afghan war diaries. We are working with the Bradley Manning Support Network (www.BradleyManning.org) to organize a show of support for Manning and make sure the commander-in-chief takes responsibility for the actions of the military. Please join us in calling the White House this Thursday. Thanks. Kevin Zeese Executive Director Voters For Peace PLEASE JOIN US - PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY - SPREAD THE WORD - STAND WITH BRAD http://votersforpeace.us/press/index.php?itemid=4663 National White House Call-in Day to Support Bradley Manning, Thursday, February 3rd, 2011 Whitehouse switchboard: 202-456-1414 (or Whitehouse comments: 202-456-1111) Call the White House Thursday to voice your support for accused WikiLeaks whistle-blower US Army PFC Bradley Manning, specifically that his human rights be respected by the Quantico, Virginia, brig authorities. Bradley has been held in solitary confinement-like conditions for over eight months, and his trial is still months away. This American citizen-soldier has been convicted of no crime, yet continues to endure inhumane conditions of pre-trial confinement like no other inmate at the Quantico brig. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs recently stated that the White House was not paying attention to Bradley Manning's extreme confinement conditions, or the fact that recent pre-approved visitors of Bradley's have been detained and interrogated by military police in order to block their scheduled visit. It is critical that we educate the White House of this ongoing injustice! Recommended points to make: - US Army PFC Bradley Manning, the accused WikiLeaks whistle-blower being held at the Marine brig in Quantico, Virginia, is an American citizen who is innocent until proven otherwise. Yet, he has been subjected to continuous illegal pre-trial punishment since his arrest in May 2010. Based on these abuses alone, Manning should be freed pending court martial. - Military pre-trial confinement is supposed to be about ensuring a soldier's presence at court martial, yet for eight months now Manning has been subjected to extreme pre-trial punishment through the arbitrary use of rarely applied regulations--specifically the "maximum security classification" and the "prevention of injury" order. If he is not freed pending court martial, then at the very least, Manning's human rights need to be respected, and the illegal pre-trial punishment must end. - The arbitrary restrictions placed on Manning, and no other inmates at Quantico, mean that: Manning is allowed no meaningful physical exercise, he is allowed no social interaction with other inmates, he is kept in his cell at least 23 hours per day, and he is not allowed out of his cell without restraints. - If the charges against him are true, they actually show that Manning is a patriot acting to advance an informed democracy. There is no allegation that Manning did anything but share truthful information with the American public regarding the realities of our nation's ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, with absolutely no benefit to himself, in order to spark public debate regarding foreign policy. 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Face) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 02:41:33 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Urgent next steps to save Caltrain Message-ID: <20110202.184133.8837.1@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Hi everyone, The attached message is a request for the public to attend transit meetings and speak in favor of maintaining decent Caltrain service (instead of making drastic service cuts) in the short term while long-term funding solutions are developed. Note that one of the meetings is the VTA Board meeting TOMORROW -- Thursday, February 3. The message also mentions sending letters to decision makers. If you want to do that, go to http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/741/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=5682 and enter your zip code so the email can be addressed to the elected officials that represent you on the appropriate transit board. Respectfully, Valerie Face Please note: forwarded message attached ____________________________________________________________ Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d4a163c105868f3edst04vuc -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "BayRail Alliance (on behalf of Friends of Caltrain)" Subject: Urgent next steps to save Caltrain Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:26:09 -0500 (EST) Size: 17088 URL: From wrolley at charter.net Wed Feb 2 21:02:47 2011 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:02:47 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Urgent next steps to save Caltrain In-Reply-To: <20110202.184133.8837.1@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> References: <20110202.184133.8837.1@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4D4A36F7.9020107@charter.net> On 2/2/2011 6:41 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The attached message is a request for the public to attend transit meetings and speak in favor of maintaining decent Caltrain service (instead of making drastic service cuts) in the short term while long-term funding solutions are developed. > > Note that one of the meetings is the VTA Board meeting TOMORROW -- Thursday, February 3. I live in Morgan Hill where CalTrain has a station that I Never use as it does not take me to any place that I want to go to. I have lived in Tokyo, a city with a great mass transportation system. I was generally able to get from out apartment to any place with (generally) not more than 2 changes. I would love to save the train. Mass transportation is a necessity in combating climate change. However, I think that mass transportation has to go in an new direction if it is to be self sustaining, a direction that brings closer ties to private enterprise. Why was that successful when the combination of VTA, Caltrain, BART. SAMTRANS, MUNI, etc. barely making it? Mostly, I believe, it comes from the fact that Tokyo set things up as a system with all of the parts supporting the larger whole need. The best example: SEIBU Corp. owns a suburban RR line. The SEIBU line hooks in to the Tokyo system at a station named Ikebukuro. SEIBU also has a Department Store directly connected to the Ikebukuro station. The other end of the SEIBU line is a sports stadium where the SEIBU Lions play baseball You begin to get the picture. Public transportation was directly connected to private enterprise operations. Many of the suburban trains, just change nomenclature when they come into Tokyo. The closest station to our apartment was on the Hibiya Line, but the Hibiya line trains just changed names when they went on into the suburban area. When working at a lab outside of Tokyo, I was able to take the Hibiya line subway outbound from Tokyo and only needed to change trains if I wanted to catch an express... which I generally did. Here, they are all different, run as separate fiefdoms and providing near absolute zero synergy. I have no idea how I might use Caltrain and then get on ??? public transportation that would deliver me to University Art (on Meridian in San Jose, to Kinikuniya Bookstore (on Saratoga Ave. near Moorpark) and then on to Stevens Creek in Cupertino. However, that is a trip we make by car at least once a month because all of these places have goods that we can not buy in Morgan Hill at prices that make it worth the drive. Would more people use CalTrain from Morgan Hill if there were a Safeway on the corner? Would it be easier if all of the CalTrain stations had direct VTA connections? From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Feb 3 09:15:29 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 09:15:29 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Climate Change Message-ID: <4D4AE2B1.1000902@earthlink.net> FYI, Several years ago I attended a World Affairs Council conference at Asilomar. One of the speakers was Thomas Homer-Dixon. I was very impressed by him. And somehow I was added to his email list. I just received an interesting email about climate change. The contents of the email are also at his website here: http://homerdixon.com/ Gerry From jims at greens.org Thu Feb 3 15:38:16 2011 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:38:16 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Regional Goals & Strategy Meeting In-Reply-To: <4D47761E.5020402@prodsyse.com> References: <4D4351B7.3030809@greens.org> <4D47761E.5020402@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <4D4B3C68.9030008@greens.org> The original announcement a couple weeks ago had the wiki link: http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPCA_Strategic_Action_Plan But it tends to emphasize responses to list of topics that someone posted, not the long-term planning discussions we're contemplating. Jim On 1/31/2011 6:55 PM, spencerg wrote: > Hello: > > > Is there a Green Wikipedia for this Goals discussion? > > > At the Jan. 5 meeting, I seem to recall hearing that there was, but it was > dominated by only one topic. If such exists, I suggest we document its URL > (Uniform Resource Locator / web address) in this email list. (If people are > intimidated by the Wikipedia protocol, I'd be willing to provide a little help > and encouragement to anyone who would like to learn it. Fancy formatting can > be tricky, but doing basic things is not much more complicated than writing an > email.) > > > Spencer > > > On 1/28/2011 3:31 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >> >> At the 1/18 meeting I brought up the topic of a regional meeting as part of >> the state party's project of establishing long-term goals for the party. >> >> I suggested the First Presbyterian Church in Palo Alto for our meeting, >> since I had used their facilities before. But they've had a large price >> increase since the last time. It would be $150 for four hours. I think >> that's more than we can justify for this type of meeting. >> >> Does anyone know of another affordable location near the county boarder? San >> Mateo suggested Saturday Feb. 19 for the meeting. Is this date good for >> Santa Clara folks? >> >> Fred - Could we use your clubhouse for this? I've also asked San Mateo to >> look for a venue. >> >> >> Jim Stauffer >> Regional Representative >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 3 20:15:54 2011 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:15:54 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item - open letter to the Green Party Message-ID: <4D4B7D7A.7050303@sbcglobal.net> Joe Giambrone, mail4joeg at hotmail.com wrote an open letter to the Green Party which was posted on op ed news.com on January 14-th. Here is the link to the open letter: *http://tinyurl.com/4uts3p9 * He sent copies of his open letter to all of the CA county /Green Parties as well as to various individuals including Jim Stauffer, Warner Bloomberg, Dana ST George, Merriam Kathaleen He introduces his real topic with I'll not harp on this, as my own interest in the party was primarily to help on the state and local level: to build. *And this brings me to my real topic: /a completely broken system of bringing in new members. He offers to make videos: /*I could be crafting popular viral videos to promote the laudable Green principles and platform , but there's no direct connection to or involvement with this monolith of an organization, which exists quite apart from average shmucks like me. So where's the incentive? */On the web site /**http://tinyurl.com/4z7xlxm *He offers 5 suggestions for actions aimed to improve the outreach of the Green Party and a short list of suggested topics for videos. I request that there be an agenda item discussing how his suggestions could benefit us, and, jumping ahead, which topics we would choose as our priorities for videos that he or others whom he has contact with could make for us. We could, for example, show them at the Friday night movie nights in the San Jose Peace Center. Put on your thinking caps and bring the ideas to the next meeting. This agenda item should be set for at least 15 minutes, possibly even 30 minutes. Jim Doyle * **/ /* From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 3 20:25:08 2011 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:25:08 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item Message-ID: <4D4B7FA4.4010904@sbcglobal.net> Oops, I forgot to say that there is more from Joe Giambrone at the Green Party (wiki?) web site http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPofCalWiki:Current_events where he provides further discussion of his ideas and what he is offering. Include that in your preparations for a discussion on this topic at our next meeting. Jim Doyle From jamboi at greens.org Fri Feb 4 11:50:55 2011 From: jamboi at greens.org (jamboi) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:50:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ubuntu Hour @ Palo Alto TONIGHT! Message-ID: <60555.24.7.30.32.1296849055.squirrel@greens.org> Ubuntu Hour @ Palo Alto TONIGHT! 7pm Tandoori Oven. Details and RSVP: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/650/detail/ The word "ubuntu" means an attitude of "Humanity Towards Others" in several southern African languages. Ubuntu Hour is a casual, nonprogrammed social setting to learn and share more about the Ubuntu alternative computer operating system (for both PCs and Macs). This completely and entirely FREE operating system and suite of applications can liberate your computing from the proprietary computing of the monopolistic software paradigm of Micro$oft and Apple, or can simply be used side by side with proprietary OSs. There are literally THOUSANDS of FREE and EASILY INSTALLABLE APPLICATIONS FROM THE UBUNTU SOFTWARE CENTER to do anything and everything you'd ever want to accomplish with your computer. Ubuntu is a distrobution of the GNU/Linux Operating system and is very mature and well established with 24/7 FREE SUPPORT available on-line as well as inexpensive commercial support available. Ubuntu is an extremely powerful tool set to accomplish whatever you can dream of accomplishing with a computer, as well as a very GREEN worldwide voluntary mutual support community that backs it. Come enjoy the awesome power of Ubuntu with us and liberate your computing. Drew 408-520-1652 From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Fri Feb 4 14:47:06 2011 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 14:47:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item - open letter to the Green Party Message-ID: <20110204224706.0CAC26A9AC@truffula.sj.ca.us> I ignored Joe Giambrone's message at the time because 1. It was addressed to a very large number of addresses 2. He claimed to have tried very hard to volunteer to work on unspecified GP web sites, but I'd never heard from him before that broadcast 3. It wasn't clear which domain he was talking about 4. It was of the form "I hereby volunteer somebody else to do a whole lot of work" 5. I was already dealing with a similar effort directed against cagreens.org by a person whose similar effort against gp.org had had the effect of driving gp.org's IT volunteers away several years earlier. 6. Joe advocates the use of corporate-proprietary software tools while truly free alternatives to those tools are readily available. So, that's some context for you. -Cameron From andid at cagreens.org Fri Feb 4 13:03:37 2011 From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:03:37 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sunday at Prusch Park In-Reply-To: <4D479476.7030602@charter.net> References: <4D479476.7030602@charter.net> Message-ID: <3805FF6A-3F92-4212-92E1-DD817D37FE71@cagreens.org> Did you know that the Master Gardeners at Prusch help you cut scions for grafting to your fruit and nut trees, and your roses? This is the time of year to do it while the buds are barely out?at least at 2000 feet, that is! Andrea On Jan 31, 2011, at 9:04 PM, Wes Rolley wrote: > This is the latest from the Calif. Rare Fruit Growers email list regarding Sunday's work part at the park. Note: we do realize it is Super Bowl Sunday... That means the streets should be clear while everyone else watches. > >> The holidays and Scion Exchange are behind us, and I don't think there are >> any announced boycotts of Emma Prusch Park, so everyone should feel free to >> join in on Sunday morning, as we get back to our monthly routine at the >> Heritage Orchard. It promises to be another beautiful day, and fresh air, >> mild exercise, camaraderie and community service will only make it sweeter. >> With luck, you might even spot the owls that have lately been set free in >> the orchard. This month, considering the warm weather, pruning will have >> priority, but we hope to also see some chips out there to be spread over the >> last remaining un-mulched areas. At last report, we have a small band of >> outside volunteers joining us, so satisfying results can be expected, and >> there will be a need for senior members to guide the teams. > > If you want to help prune, or learn how to prune, bring a hand pruner if you have one. 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Not only does it mention what NASA is doing, but also gives a map that shows what parts of Mountain View and other S. Bay areas will be under water with a 16 in. sea level rise. I went back to the source of that Map, the San Francisco Bay Conservation and Development Commission whose site is linked from Climate Watch. While they do make the very good point that sea level rise is happening now (7 in since measurements started) the general opinion of many climatologists is that the IPPC prediction that they used are overly optimistic and that the reality of climate change is running ahead of their predictions. The reason I am going into this as much as I am, is to point out that we are in deep financial trouble at a time when climate change is going to demand large expenditures to react to what is coming and that it will be far cheaper to do things now than later. What does this mean for local government? How will local governments possibly finance whatever work they need to do with dwindling tax revenues? What alternatives do we have? What cities are really in a position to do anything now? If this is not an opportunity for the Green Party, then why is it the "Green" Party? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Fri Feb 4 22:00:23 2011 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:00:23 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Depressing thoughts from another blogger. Message-ID: <4D4CE777.6060904@charter.net> One of the bloggers that I follow in David Zeitland whose Aquanomics is widely read and often cited by others. David Zetland is a senior water economist at Wageningen University in the Netherlands and got his degree from UC Davis and did post-doc work at UC-Berkeley. I really found this one depressing, since we all know just how much power, or the reach for power, corrupts our National politicians. Zeitland posted this about that and then finds that local politics is worse. __ quoted from the link above __ Corruption and integrity in US politicians RD responded to this post with a few thoughts on what works, and fails, in local politics: Having work in the US Senate and then for President Reagan, and having worked at the state level and local levels of government I can tell you the key is finding candidates who have integrity. Yes there are a few and too often even they get corrupted by money and power, but there are still a few. I have found that if you have integrity and are recognized as an expert they will treat you with respect. But never lie or overstate, NEVER or you will lose it all. I have been successful because I recognized this early. they don't always like what you tell them, but if they respect you and your knowledge and insight, they will come back to you for more. One of the biggest problems I've encountered in politics are those who hire "yes" men/women only. They want staff to make them feel good and "protect" them. this is wrong headed management philosophy. you want the most talented and competent people you can find. Loyalty in politics usually only runs up, not down. I've fallen on the spear a couple times. Once it was the wrong decision and once it was the right one. If I find a Member has lied to me or not been fully honest with me, they go on my shit list for life and I quietly work hard to get them out of office. Surprisingly, I found politics most corrupt at the local level. *Bottom Line:* We have to find candidates with integrity, and that is NOT easy today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Fri Feb 4 22:20:07 2011 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 06:20:07 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Regional Goals & Strategy Meeting Message-ID: <20110204.222007.13489.3@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Hi Jim, Did you get any other responses off the list about venues and/or whether or not February 19 works for people? Thanks, Valerie ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:38:16 -0800 From: Jim Stauffer To: GPSCC References: <4D4351B7.3030809 at greens.org> Precedence: list The original announcement a couple weeks ago had the wiki link: http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPCA_Strategic_Action_Plan But it tends to emphasize responses to list of topics that someone posted, not the long-term planning discussions we're contemplating. Jim On 1/31/2011 6:55 PM, spencerg wrote: > Hello: > > > Is there a Green Wikipedia for this Goals discussion? > > > At the Jan. 5 meeting, I seem to recall hearing that there was, but it was > dominated by only one topic. If such exists, I suggest we document its URL > (Uniform Resource Locator / web address) in this email list. (If people are > intimidated by the Wikipedia protocol, I'd be willing to provide a little help > and encouragement to anyone who would like to learn it. Fancy formatting can > be tricky, but doing basic things is not much more complicated than writing an > email.) > > > Spencer > > > On 1/28/2011 3:31 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: >> >> At the 1/18 meeting I brought up the topic of a regional meeting as part of >> the state party's project of establishing long-term goals for the party. >> >> I suggested the First Presbyterian Church in Palo Alto for our meeting, >> since I had used their facilities before. But they've had a large price >> increase since the last time. It would be $150 for four hours. I think >> that's more than we can justify for this type of meeting. >> >> Does anyone know of another affordable location near the county boarder? San >> Mateo suggested Saturday Feb. 19 for the meeting. Is this date good for >> Santa Clara folks? >> >> Fred - Could we use your clubhouse for this? I've also asked San Mateo to >> look for a venue. >> >> >> Jim Stauffer >> Regional Representative >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ____________________________________________________________ When Banks Compete, You Win! Refi & lower payments today: $400,000 for only $1,687/mo. 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Rep. Kucinich was one of only six Reps to vote against it. Widely derided as a "thought crimes Act", HR 1955 got this reaction from the ACLU: "We need to worry about the people who are committing crimes rather than those who harbor beliefs that the government may consider to be extreme." During hearings on the bill, a screenshot of a web page from AE911Truth.org, a non-profit educational organization of architects and engineers, was sandwiched between screenshots from jihadi webshots as an example of web-based terrorist propaganda. AE911Truth.org now has 1433 architectural and engineering professionals calling for new investigations into the destruction of the three WTC towers on 9/11. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Feb 8 17:53:53 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:53:53 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Media Miss the Al Jazeera Story" Message-ID: <4D51F3B1.2090604@earthlink.net> This is about how only Al Jazeera has provided close up news about Egypt, how it is usually not available on cable, and how in the U.S. there has been a surge in web traffic to the Al Jazeera website. And more. From Laura Flanders. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/02/08-7 Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Feb 8 18:03:28 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 18:03:28 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Media Miss the Al Jazeera Story" In-Reply-To: <4D51F3B1.2090604@earthlink.net> References: <4D51F3B1.2090604@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Also, if anyone has not seen the 2004 film, "Control Room", 2004, Magnolia Pictures, distributed by Lion's Gate, check it out. Palo Alto Library has a copy. >From the blurb: "A chronicle which provides a rare window into the international perception of the Iraq War, courtesy of Al Jazeera, the Arab world's most popular news outlet. Criticized by Cabinet members and Pentagon officials for reporting with a pro-Iraqi bias, and strongly condemned for frequently airing civilian casualties as well as footage of American POW's, the station has revealed (and continues to show the world) everything about the Iraq War that the Bush administration does not want the public to see." Thumbs and toes up! > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:53:53 -0800 > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Media Miss the Al Jazeera Story" > > > This is about how only Al Jazeera has provided close up > news about Egypt, how it is usually not available on > cable, and how in the U.S. there has been a surge in > web traffic to the Al Jazeera website. 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Feb 8 18:08:22 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:08:22 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Banking for the People" Message-ID: <4D51F716.5030104@earthlink.net> About how small banks are better than large banks and how there are moves to create more state banks. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/02/07-9 Gerry From jims at greens.org Thu Feb 10 15:51:03 2011 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:51:03 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GOALS and STRATEGIES MEETING, Feb 19 Message-ID: <4D5479E7.7050709@greens.org> GPCA GOALS AND STRATEGIES FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING A Participatory Exercise WHEN: Saturday, Feb 19 10 am to 1 or 2 pm WHERE: Fred?s Clubhouse Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, located at the intersection of Moffett Blvd. and W. Middlefield Road, in Mountain View (500 W. Middlefield Rd. 94043) NEEDS: Some drinks and snacks would be nice. Please respond to this list if you can bring something. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Greens: The state party would like to engage county Locals in an exercise to help establish long-term goals for the party. By agreeing on a set of goals, we give the party definition and purpose. From those goals we develop strategies for their implementation. This creates projects for our Working Groups and Standing Committees, and it helps attract volunteers and donations. It?s important to be realistic when setting goals. Brainstorming exercises encourage free-thinking with no critique or analysis of suggested issues. Goal setting is different; it?s intended to derive projects that are achievable, not just desirable. We all have a list of favorite issues and a wish-list of what we?d like the party to be. But we must focus on what we can actually accomplish ? realistic goals. Locals are encourage to get together with neighboring counties for this exercise. Gathering into a group from a few counties helps the thought process. It gets us outside of our normal monthly meeting crowd and provides the synergy of a larger group. PROCESS Take notes of the goals discussed and rank or categorize them by the level of agreement or support. There is wiki that is (ostensibly) for posting comments. It?s not designed too well, but it can be used for submitting our comments. http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPCA_Strategic_Action_Plan DISCUSSION The state party wants to hear what Locals think our long-term goals should be. This requires some degree of open discussion, but the exercise must remain moderated by the theme of realistic goals. For every suggested goal, the presenter should have some idea of a strategy to implement that goal. Basically, the question to answer is, ?What should the GPCA accomplish in five years and in ten years?? Some organizing may help the discussion: Political Goals Partisan and non-partisan candidates Campaigns and ballot proposition Election reforms Internal / Party Goals Voter registration Developing county Locals Fundraising Internal structure and process REFERENCES State committee and working group people have been discussing this subject and have come up with their list of issues. These are being provided here just as a reference, they should not be used as guidance for your discussions. Its purpose is to provide input as to what volunteers at the state level see as our long-term issues. 1. Given the current recession and its detrimental effect on fundraising, should GPCA and its locals adopt a ?survival plan? until recovery is tangible (e.g. unemployment below 8%)? How would this affect all goals and strategies? 2. What are realistic voter registration goals? What attracts people to a small party? What caused the California Green registration decline of the past six years, can it be reversed? 3. Given that we have less than 1% of registered voters, what are realistic electoral strategies for a party of our size? Do we continue attempts in partisan races or focus on non-partisan races? Is there a realistic strategy for winning partisan races? 4. How do we recruit/develop electable candidates for non-partisan offices? 5. Does Prop 14 provide any potential to us? 6. Should we make a real, concerted effort to promote ranked-choice voting (i.e. Instant Runoff Voting and proportional representation)? 7. The GPCA?s decentralized structure and consensus-seeking decision process is an experiment that we?ve carried on for 20 years. Is it working well enough? Is there a good balance of responsibilities between the state party and the county parties? Should we examine giving more authority over internal business to the state party? 8. Is continuing to rely solely on volunteer labor a viable plan for growth? 9. What factors have created viable, stable Locals? What factors have caused Locals to deteriorate? 10. What resources do Locals need from the state party? What resources does the state party need from Locals? Contact Jim (mailto:jims at greens.org) with any questions or comments. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Feb 11 10:15:09 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:15:09 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Low Power Radio Message-ID: <4D557CAD.4080804@earthlink.net> FYI, according to this article, there is a narrow window of opportunity to create low power radio stations. http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/02/10-5 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Feb 13 10:08:41 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:08:41 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Revolution in America? Message-ID: <4D581E29.30401@earthlink.net> FYI, "The Invisible, Growing Leaderless Revolution in America" (about growing anger in U.S. over how we're treated by the bankers mentality) http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/02/13-2 Gerry From WB4D23 at aol.com Sun Feb 13 12:33:57 2011 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:33:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notice of Candidacy for GPCA Coordinating Committee Position Message-ID: <44bf5.68f76e44.3a899a35@aol.com> February 13. 2011 To GPSCC and GPSMC Members: This email serves as my Candidate's Statement and Biography for purposes of consideration for election to the GPCA Coordinating Committee as "Regional Representative" for the Silicon Valley Region (Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties). As some of you are aware, I have resisted volunteering for this position because of my other GP time and energies commitments. After a lot of thought, it appears that it is time for me to "move up" to this next level of service. If elected I will transfer my available GP time and energies from work on the GPUS California Delegation and GPUS committees to CC work (although I would plan to remain on the GPUS Presidential Candidates Support Committee). As indicated below, I have a significant background in the Campaign and Candidates Working Group, some in the Electoral Reform Working Group, and almost four years as a GPUS Delegate. I also have participated on the Co-Cos Group for four years and remained an observer during the last year. I have participated in the preliminary budget committee discussions for the last five years, and I have some experience with events planning. I have on a number of occasions presented the Agenda Packet for local discussions and I have attended many state party meetings as a Plenary delegate. I also have occasionally observed pre-Plenary in-person CC meetings. I do not operate a motor vehicle, and have some concern about being able to attend any GPSMC meetings (I most attend the GPSCC monthly general meetings). If affirmed in both counties, I would strongly prefer that our alternate be a GPSMC member. I will agree to serve a two year term and we all can evaluate the need or good of my continuing in the position at the end of that term. A partial summary of my background and experience is as follows: Green Party Activities 1994-2010 Green Party of Santa Clara County activist 1998-2001 Green Party of Santa Clara County County Council 2000 GPCA Delegate to ASGP Presidential Nominating Convention (Denver, CO) 1998-2010 Participation in Campaigns and Candidates Working Group, including working on proposals re endorsement procedures (2003) and GPUS nominating convention delegates (2003-2004) 2005-2009 Sole CCWG Coordinator 2001-2011 Participation in Electoral Reform Working Group (Elections Code subcommittee; Redistricting issues; Development of Presidential nominating convention delegates selection procedures (2007) 2002; 2004 Candidate for State Assembly District 23 (San Jose, CA) July 4, 2007 to Present GPCA GNC member (delegate) -- Paricipate in monthly teleconferences and email discussions; Participate on GNC Votes email list and vote on various items considered by GPUS GNC; Prepared Delegation draft Work Plan and Budget for FY 2009 and 2010 May 2007 to Present Observer to GPUS Coordinated Campaigns Committee July 2008 Attended Chicago GPUS ANM; Also GPCA Delegate to Chicago QPNC September 2008 to May 2009 Present Participate in McKinney/Clemente State Volunteers Coordinators email list and teleconferences; Co-facilitated workshop at 2009 ANM July 2009 Attended GPUS ANM in Durham, North Carolina December 2009 Joined GPUS Presidential Candidates Support Committee; participating in email list and teleconferences July 2010 to Present Member GPUS Delegate Apportionment Committee Education University of Chicago, Chicago, Illinois BA 1976 (Social Sciences) Santa Clara University, School of Law, Santa Clara, California JD 1979 San Jose State University/CompassPoint Nonprofit Services, San Jose, California Certificate Program in nonprofit management 1999-2001 Work Experience 1972-1976 Clerical worker, Joseph Regenstein Library, University of Chicago 1979-1980 Part-time office worker for the Santa Clara Valley National Lawyers Guild 1980-2010 General practice attorney 1999-2000 Interim Director for United Neighborhoods of Santa Clara County Volunteer Activities 1971-1972 Draft counselor, Quaker House, Chicago, Illinois 1972-1975 Clerical Workers of America, District 65, organizing campaign 1976-1978 Soledad Habeas Corpus Project (prisoner legal assistance) 1979-1980 (City of) Santa Clara Tenants Association 1983-1993 Santa Clara Valley New Jewish Agenda 1988-1998 Peninsula Peace & Justice Center, Coordinating Council 1990-1999 Jackson-Taylor Neighborhood Association 1994-1998 Jewish Arab Muslim Americans Association (JAMAA) 1994-1999 Board member and officer of United Neighborhoods of Santa Clara County 2000-2011 Japantown Neighborhood Association 2002-2006 Southbay Jewish Voice for Peace October 2007 - February 2008 Treasurer for Save BAREC No on Measures A and B Committee (City of Santa Clara ballot initiative to preserve open space) I can respond to questions via email(s) to _wb4d23 at aol.com_ (mailto:wb4d23 at aol.com) or by telephone at (408) 295-9353. 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From tnharter at aceweb.com Mon Feb 14 16:26:38 2011 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:26:38 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: A Hackerspace for Biotech] Message-ID: <4D59C83E.0@aceweb.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: A Hackerspace for Biotech Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:16:13 EST From: TNHarter at aol.com To: tnharter at aceweb.com > > Eri Gentry > > A Hackerspace for Biotech > > Eri Gentry is a co-founder of BioCurious, a Mountain View based > non-profit offering the first Bay Area collaborative lab space > dedicated to non-institutional biology and seeking to bring life > sciences within reach of do-it-yourself hobbyists and entrepreneurs. > BioCurious has a short term goal to raise enough money to build > a basic synthetic biology lab; its long term vision is to create > new way to incubate biotech ideas, not in million dollar labs, > a but among friends in informal settings. > > Eri, a Yale-educated economist, will talk about how she became > involved in the do-it-yourself-bio movement, her efforts to procure > expensive lab equipment at bargain basement prices, and some of the > projects members are working on. > Eri began by talking about some work she had done with Livly, a startup in biotech that she had cofounded, an exciting place to work. She was also inspired by Mountain View's hacker dojo, where volunteers use not much money to advance the software state of the art for entertainment value and enlightenment. She set out to do something similar in biotech. She showed us a picture of the garage she and a friend had made into what would be a million dollar lab if it had been built by Genentech or somebody like that. Instead they invested about $30,000.00 in it. Some of it was salvaged from equipment sales at startup company going out of business sales, other items were house made for nothing. Eri then talked about some of the more interesting things her team has been working on. Guido made a DNA xeroxer. Somebody else is working on biofuels from algae. A DNA gel sequencer and open PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) tool were also discussed. Eri finished by explaining that her focus is to develop a community as well as a community lab, which allows people from different backgrounds to collaborate and lowers the barriers to entry to starting a biotech company. Once people have proof of concept and are ready to go for the mass market, they need to go to venture capitalists for that kind of money. At the moment they have some funding from a seed capital website, and expect to use that over the coming year. During Q&A the following came up. They got seed capital from kickstarter. The project can be found at biocurious.org/kickstarter Do you do anything about the intellectual property rights of your scientists? BioCurious will ask people to sign membership agreements and liability waivers. They, however, will not take others intellectual property. What you come up with in working with the group is yours. Eri might caution you to not talk about it too much though. How do you prevent your equipment from being used to do evil? Eri has thought about that a lot. Generally, she works to build a cooperative open environment where people talk about what they are doing. She is aware that these tools can be used for bad things, but they work to prevent that on an ongoing basis. To find out more please visit the website at biocurious.org. If you have further questions Eri can be reached at eri at biocurious.org. She is also on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/erigentry. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added some words about that Oilpocalypse in Oakland. The PB Park pin I got in '00 is on a Utah quarter. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Mon Feb 14 17:09:26 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:09:26 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cheney, Rumsfeld Booed at Conservative Conference Message-ID: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/02/11/2011-02-11_cpac_2011_dick_cheney_and_donald_rumsfeld_booed_at_conservative_convention_in_dc.html A number of young people, reportedly Texas Rep. Ron Paul supporters, walked out in protest when the former defense secretary took the stage in D.C. to receive the conference's "Defenders of the Constitution" award. When former Vice President Cheney made a surprise appearance to honor Rumsfeld, he too was booed with audience members yelling "Where's Bin Laden," "murdering scum," and "draft dodger." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Feb 14 19:39:11 2011 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:39:11 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: A Hackerspace for Biotech] In-Reply-To: <4D59C83E.0@aceweb.com> References: <4D59C83E.0@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4D59F55F.9090807@charter.net> Interesting, Tian, that you posted this the same day that I read KQED's Climate Watch blog post on Citizen Science. http://blogs.kqed.org/climatewatch/2011/02/14/why-the-pros-need-citizen-science/ *Naturalist Update: A biologist's take on the potential for citizen science in a changing climate* (Photo: Richard Morgenstein) Last month I went out to Jasper Ridge Biological Preserve near Stanford, where Scott Loarie and Ken-ichi Ueda showed me and about a dozen docents how to use the new iNaturalist iPhone app , which Ueda created. The aim of the app is to make recording and sharing of accurate field observations incredibly simple. It's still in testing mode and not yet available to the public. "Citizen scientists" can already upload their digital photos and share them with an online community of naturalists around the world, at the iNaturalist website. This week I spoke with Healy Hamilton, who directs the Center for Applied Biodiversity Informatics at the California Academy of Sciences. Below are some excerpts from our interview about climate change, citizen science, and iNaturalist: *Q: What's the potential of citizen science?*/ A: The world is changing faster than ever before in the history of all human civilization. There's no way that scientists can monitor those changes. It's critical for us to understand the pace of change, and where change is taking place the most. / /With global change, there's a fundamental rearrangement of where species live. We already know almost everywhere we look that species are on the move trying to track their preferred climate envelopes. To understand the implications of this kind of shifting, we need to have people help us monitor these changes, both the rate of the change and the locations of the changes. This is where there's a profound role for citizen science./ */Q: /How can a tool like iNaturalist help scientists study climate change?* /A:...Citizen science can help us understand how climate change is unfolding in situ. Every species has edges to their range, so there's sort of a central range, a northern leading edge, a southern edge, eastern and western edges. Citizens can help us monitor how climate change is impacting the edges of those ranges, which is where climate impacts are most likely to occur. / /For example, some of the easternmost redwood forests are likely to experience the highest summer temperatures [in the redwoods' range], and summer temps seem to be changing quite rapidly, maybe more than temps at other times of the year. So if citizens can help us say, 'Look, I just saw a grove of redwood trees and the leaves are brown and this is where it's located,' we can actually map climate in that area and see how climate change is unfolding on the landscape. There's no way scientists can be everywhere at once to understand how these changes are unfolding, but citizens are hiking through redwood forests all the time./ /...So applications such as iNaturalist are going to increase the biodiversity data that scientists have to work with. Not all observations are going to be useful, but many of them will be useful to us. Because of our need for verified observations about what occurs where and when on the planet, as scientists, we think citizen science has a huge role to play in improving our models about forecasting future climate change impacts to species and ecosystems./ */Q: /Why do we need to study these changes? What's the big picture?* /A: Climate change is the single most important threat that's facing all of human society. If we continue to emit the current rates of greenhouse gases into the future, and if we do end up with 900 or 1,000 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere at the end of the century, we will be living on a fundamentally different planet, and that transition is not going to be comfortable for us. All of our society, all of our infrastructure, all of our food resources, our forest resources, the things that we need, the things we've evolved our society around consuming, they like the climate the way it was, [at] about 150-300 parts per million of CO2. So it's important to understand how climate change is going to influence biodiversity, the biodiversity we depend on, every bite of food we eat, the clothes on our back, all of our paper and forest products. It influences how diseases are transmitted and all kinds of public health, food security, and national security issues./ In this short video , Scott Loarie and Ken-ichi Ueda explain how the iNaturalist iPhone app works. On 2/14/2011 4:26 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: A Hackerspace for Biotech > Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:16:13 EST > From: TNHarter at aol.com > To: tnharter at aceweb.com > > > > > > > Eri Gentry > > > > A Hackerspace for Biotech > > \ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: iphone.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 32777 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Feb 14 19:47:15 2011 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:47:15 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cows or condos? California's leading farmland preservation program faces the ax amid budget woes - San Jose Mercury News Message-ID: <4D59F743.1010502@charter.net> In a time when urbane suburbanites are becoming locavores, it is becoming increasingly difficult to really eat local. The preservation of farmland is becoming even more difficult, thanks to Jerry Brown. http://www.mercurynews.com/california-budget/ci_17379731?source=rss&nclick_check=1 That seems to fall in line with San Jose's plans for "in fill" and with the Green Foothills view that we build in the valley to protect the hillsides. But who is protecting the Valley. W/O the Williamson Act, there is little incentive to continue local ag. From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Feb 15 11:20:21 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:20:21 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cows or condos? California's leading farmland preservation program faces the ax amid budget woes - San Jose Mercury News In-Reply-To: <4D59F743.1010502@charter.net> References: <4D59F743.1010502@charter.net> Message-ID: <4D5AD1F5.2050909@earthlink.net> This is another example where James Hansen's fee and dividend would help (or any carbon tax approach would help). But I have no idea how it would compare in effectiveness to the Williamson Act. Gerry Wes Rolley wrote: > In a time when urbane suburbanites are becoming locavores, it is > becoming increasingly difficult to really eat local. The preservation of > farmland is becoming even more difficult, thanks to Jerry Brown. > > http://www.mercurynews.com/california-budget/ci_17379731?source=rss&nclick_check=1 > > > That seems to fall in line with San Jose's plans for "in fill" and with > the Green Foothills view that we build in the valley to protect the > hillsides. But who is protecting the Valley. W/O the Williamson Act, > there is little incentive to continue local ag. > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Feb 15 11:24:28 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:24:28 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Germany. Austerity. Wisconsin Wave. Primary. Message-ID: <4D5AD2EC.5030504@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Germany. Austerity. Wisconsin Wave. Primary. Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:34:39 -0600 From: Ben Manski Reply-To: Ben Manski To: Gerald Gras */Good evening, Gerald/* Many of you have asked me what I've been up to since the 2010 elections. Others have asked me who I am supporting in tomorrow's Wisconsin primary elections. I thought I'd share my answers with all of you, in case you're curious. A few weeks after last November's election, the German Green Party invited me to participate in their national convention in Freiburg. I spoke on a panel regarding U.S. politics and the prospects for progressive change in the United States. I was jet-lagged and groggy, and didn't feel all that good about my presentation. But some of what I said must have gotten through. The very last comment at the session was made by a German parliamentarian who turned to me and said, "what you Americans need to realize is that you need a new constitution and another revolution." Oh really? I must have been listening good, because that's just what I've been up to. I am hard at work on a national democracy convention scheduled for August 24-28, to be hosted at the Concourse Hotel here in Madison (save the date, and look for updates). I've also plugged back in with Move to Amend, where I serve on the national executive committee. I've never worked on a project like Move to Amend before -- one where you regularly receive emails demanding an explanation as to why you haven't succeeded yet. Why haven't we amended the Constitution yet, hmm? Closer to home, it seems like* Wisconsin's new governor is doing everything in his power to help us make the case for democratic revolution.* If you're a Wisconsinite, you know what I mean. But for those reading in other parts of the world, you should know that for this week, at least, and likely for the coming months, Wisconsin is at the center of the struggle over austerity in the United States. *This past Friday, Governor Walker announced plans to eliminate public sector unions in Wisconsin. *He introduced what he described as a "Budget Repair Bill." Among its provisions? It would eliminate nearly all collective bargaining for local and state public employees. It would require yearly recertification votes for public employee unions. It would eliminate "fair share" union dues collection by the state. It would limit union contracts to one year at a time. And that's just for starters. A Wisconsin without public sector unions is not Wisconsin. This state gave rise to America's public employee unions. They are the backbone of this state's progressive movement. Everything is on the line. Governor Walker knows that. He has already notified Wisconsin's Adjutant General that he may call on our National Guard in the coming weeks. And working Wisconsinites know it too. In the next few days, my organization, Liberty Tree, will go live with a new website devoted to Wisconsin's new wave of resistance against austerity. Look for news about the "Wisconsin Wave." *And if you are within traveling distance to Madison's downtown, please make plans to join us at the State Capitol tomorrow and Wednesday.* My union, AFT-Wisconsin, has provided a helpful schedule, as well as background information, here: http://bit.ly/hcisUQ Finally, tomorrow is primary election day in Wisconsin. Many of you have asked me who I am supporting, and I'm happy to tell you: ---> In Wisconsin's first ever publicly financed *Supreme Court election, I am voting for JOANNE KLOPPENBURG.* I've known Kloppenburg long enough to know that she is committed to seeing our courts protect the interests of the powerless, not just the powerful, and to expanding democracy in American life. For full disclosure, Jack Kloppenburg, her husband, was my undergraduate adviser, and is a wonderful advocate for environmental and food sovereignty. ---> In Madison's *mayoral election, I support PAUL SOGLIN.* Like other Greens and Progressives locally, I've worked with (and sometimes differed with) both Soglin and the current mayor in their terms of office. I know that Paul Soglin can be counted on to open up city hall to everyone, and to especially look out for Madison's poor and marginalized communities. ---> In Dane County's race for *county executive, I support SCOTT MCDONNELL.* He has served as a strong advocate for human services and environmental protection in his time as county board chair, and he is by far the best qualified candidate to take on the duties of county executive. Joe Parisi is also a good candidate, but my vote will be for McDonnell. ---> Last, but not least, our local Progressive party, Progressive Dane, has an incredible team of candidates running for city common council, school board. I especially want to thank candidates *MARJ PASSMAN* (Madison School Board), *SAM STEVENSON* (Madison Common Council, District 2), *MARSHA RUMMEL* (Madison Common Council, District 6),* KYLE SZARZYNSKI* (Madison Common Council, District 8), *BRIAN SOLOMON* (Madison Common Council, District 10),* SATYA RHODES-CONWAY* (Madison Common Council, District 12) and* TJ MERTZ* (Madison Common Council, District 13) for their very active support in my recent campaign. You can see the full list here: http://www.prodane.org/archives/2011/01/wednesday_janua.html Finally, since some of you have asked, yes, we still have debt to retire. Please contribute now to help retire our campaign debt ($1200+): http://votemanski.com/contribute Thank you for for your consideration, and for all that you do. - Ben Manski ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /*For more information visit*/: *VoteManski.com * Unsubscribe Mailing Address: P.O. Box 260217 Madison, WI 53726-0217 United States PAID FOR BY MANSKI FOR WI, DONNA VUKELICH, TREASURER From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Feb 15 12:06:11 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 12:06:11 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Patriot Act Vote Message-ID: <4D5ADCB3.5090004@earthlink.net> The House voted for the extension of some provisions of the Patriot Act. Local Congresspeople voted ... Yes - McNerney No - Pelosi, Spieir, Eshoo, Honda, Lofgren, Stark http://clerk.house.gov/cgi-bin/vote.asp?year=2011&rollnumber=36 Gerry From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Feb 15 13:04:13 2011 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:04:13 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items request Message-ID: <4D5AEA4D.5040708@aceweb.com> Our next county green party meeting is Thursday the 24th at 7 PM. Please respond to this reminder with agenda items for the meeting. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added some words about that Oilpocalypse in Oakland. The PB Park pin I got in '00 is on an Oklahoma quarter. From jims at greens.org Tue Feb 15 16:43:30 2011 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:43:30 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Reminder: GOALS and STRATEGIES MEETING, Feb 19 Message-ID: <4D5B1DB2.9000506@greens.org> GPCA GOALS AND STRATEGIES FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING A Participatory Exercise WHEN: Saturday, Feb 19 10 am to 1 or 2 pm WHERE: Fred's Clubhouse Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, located at the intersection of Moffett Blvd. and W. Middlefield Road, in Mountain View (500 W. Middlefield Rd. 94043) NEEDS: Some drinks and snacks would be nice. Please respond to this list if you can bring something. Dear Greens: The state party would like to engage county Locals in an exercise to help establish long-term goals for the party. By agreeing on a set of goals, we give the party definition and purpose. From those goals we develop strategies for their implementation. This creates projects for our Working Groups and Standing Committees, and it helps attract volunteers and donations. It's important to be realistic when setting goals. Brainstorming exercises encourage free-thinking with no critique or analysis of suggested issues. Goal setting is different; it's intended to derive projects that are achievable, not just desirable. We all have a list of favorite issues and a wish-list of what we'd like the party to be. But we must focus on what we can actually accomplish -- realistic goals. Locals are encourage to get together with neighboring counties for this exercise. Gathering into a group from a few counties helps the thought process. It gets us outside of our normal monthly meeting crowd and provides the synergy of a larger group. PROCESS Take notes of the goals discussed and rank or categorize them by the level of agreement or support. There is wiki that is (ostensibly) for posting comments. It's not designed too well, but it can be used for submitting our comments. http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPCA_Strategic_Action_Plan DISCUSSION The state party wants to hear what Locals think our long-term goals should be. This requires some degree of open discussion, but the exercise must remain moderated by the theme of realistic goals. For every suggested goal, the presenter should have some idea of a strategy to implement that goal. Basically, the question to answer is, "What should the GPCA accomplish in five years and in ten years?" Some organizing may help the discussion: Political Goals Partisan and non-partisan candidates Campaigns and ballot proposition Election reforms Internal / Party Goals Voter registration Developing county Locals Fund raising Internal structure and process REFERENCES State committee and working group people have been discussing this subject and have come up with their list of issues. These are being provided here just as a reference, they should not be used as guidance for your discussions. Its purpose is to provide input as to what volunteers at the state level see as our long-term issues. 1. Given the current recession and its detrimental effect on fundraising, should GPCA and its locals adopt a "survival plan" until recovery is tangible (e.g. unemployment below 8%)? How would this affect all goals and strategies? 2. What are realistic voter registration goals? What attracts people to a small party? What caused the California Green registration decline of the past six years, can it be reversed? 3. Given that we have less than 1% of registered voters, what are realistic electoral strategies for a party of our size? Do we continue attempts in partisan races or focus on non-partisan races? Is there a realistic strategy for winning partisan races? 4. How do we recruit/develop electable candidates for non-partisan offices? 5. Does Prop 14 provide any potential to us? 6. Should we make a real, concerted effort to promote ranked-choice voting (i.e. Instant Runoff Voting and proportional representation)? 7. The GPCA's decentralized structure and consensus-seeking decision process is an experiment that we've carried on for 20 years. Is it working well enough? Is there a good balance of responsibilities between the state party and the county parties? Should we examine giving more authority over internal business to the state party? 8. Is continuing to rely solely on volunteer labor a viable plan for growth? 9. What factors have created viable, stable Locals? What factors have caused Locals to deteriorate? 10. What resources do Locals need from the state party? What resources does the state party need from Locals? Contact Jim (mailto:jims at greens.org) with any questions or comments. From wrolley at charter.net Tue Feb 15 21:24:46 2011 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Citizen Scientists with a camera. Message-ID: <4D5B5F9E.90106@charter.net> Check this post / request from KQED's Climate Watch. http://blogs.kqed.org/climatewatch/2011/02/15/photograph-high-tides-glimpse-the-future/ I know that some of my best photos are of high tide waves crashing on the CA Coast... just what the are asking for. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Feb 16 00:32:37 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:32:37 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] In Defense of Reason Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m15lVvspDXg&feature=player_embedded#at=16 While this is nominally a defense of atheism against bullying, it's a cogent defense of reason itself. It breaks my cardinal video rules--it's longer than 6 minutes, it's a lecture with pictures. 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I anticipate some confusion to arise from this: - on their contribution page it says "Contributions or gifts to Feingold Senate Committee are not tax deductible." - there is an American Progressives United Party, http://www.americanprogressivesunited.org/ - there is a United Progressives Group, http://www.unitedprogressives.org/ Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Feb 16 16:50:02 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:50:02 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Curveball" Says His WMD Story was a Lie Message-ID: "As Curveball watched Powell make the US case to invade Iraq, he was hiding an admission that he has not made until now: that nearly every word he had told his interrogators from Germany's secret service, the BND, was a lie." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/curveball-iraqi-fantasist-cia-saddam Also, there's an unconfirmed report that Ray McGovern of Veterans for Peace wasarrested yesterday. "As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave her speech at George Washington University yesterday condemning governments that arrest protestors and do not allow free expression, 71-year-old RayMcGovern was grabbed from the audience in plain view of her by police and an unidentified official in plain clothes, brutalized and left bleeding in jail. She never paused speaking. When Secretary Clinton began her speech, Mr. McGovern remained standing silently in the audience and turned his back. Mr. McGovern, a veteran Army officer who also worked as a C.I.A. analyst for 27 years, was wearing a Veterans for Peace t-shirt. "Blind-sided by security officers who pounced upon him, Mr. McGovern remarked, as he was hauled out the door, 'So this is America?' Mr. McGovern is covered with bruises, lacerations and contusions inflicted in the assault." http://www.justiceonline.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5553 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Wed Feb 16 17:47:46 2011 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:47:46 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items request In-Reply-To: <4D5AEA4D.5040708@aceweb.com> References: <4D5AEA4D.5040708@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4D5C7E42.6010508@greens.org> I'd like 10 minutes for the Regional Rep recruit and elect process. Jim On 2/15/2011 1:04 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > Our next county green party meeting is Thursday the 24th at 7 PM. > Please respond to this reminder with agenda items for the meeting. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Feb 16 21:03:45 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:03:45 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CNN Covers Ray McGovern Message-ID: http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2011/02/15/clinton.freedom.protester.cnn.html CNN headline "Secy. Clinton interrupted by protester" is misleading. 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Clinton interrupted by protester" is misleading. > Nothing in the recording > suggests any interruption--until McGovern started protesting his removal. > > In fairness to Clinton, with those TV lights in her eyes she couldn't > see anything in the audience. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Feb 17 10:44:05 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:44:05 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] No Natural Gas in Northern New Mexico Message-ID: <4D5D6C75.8090903@earthlink.net> FYI, This is a story about a complex series of actions that led to many homes having no heat when it was very cold outside. http://blogs.worldwatch.org/revolt/new-mexico?s-winter-tale-gas-gas-everywhere-but-not-a-drop-to-burn/ Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Feb 17 13:35:21 2011 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:35:21 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Sosfbay-news] Reminder: GOALS and STRATEGIES MEETING, Feb 19 In-Reply-To: <4D5B1DB2.9000506@greens.org> References: <4D5B1DB2.9000506@greens.org> Message-ID: <4D5D9499.7040005@prodsyse.com> I plan to bring a dozen oranges -- maybe 2 dozen if it looks like a dozen might be too few. On 2/15/2011 4:43 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > > > > GPCA GOALS AND STRATEGIES FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING > A Participatory Exercise > > > WHEN: Saturday, Feb 19 > 10 am to 1 or 2 pm > > WHERE: Fred's Clubhouse > Willow Park Condo Clubhouse, located at the intersection of > Moffett Blvd. and W. Middlefield Road, in Mountain View (500 > W. Middlefield Rd. 94043) > > NEEDS: Some drinks and snacks would be nice. Please respond to this > list if > you can bring something. > > > > Dear Greens: > > The state party would like to engage county Locals in an exercise to help > establish long-term goals for the party. By agreeing on a set of > goals, we > give the party definition and purpose. From those goals we develop > strategies > for their implementation. This creates projects for our Working Groups > and > Standing Committees, and it helps attract volunteers and donations. > > It's important to be realistic when setting goals. Brainstorming > exercises > encourage free-thinking with no critique or analysis of suggested > issues. Goal > setting is different; it's intended to derive projects that are > achievable, > not just desirable. We all have a list of favorite issues and a > wish-list of > what we'd like the party to be. But we must focus on what we can actually > accomplish -- realistic goals. > > Locals are encourage to get together with neighboring counties for this > exercise. Gathering into a group from a few counties helps the thought > process. It gets us outside of our normal monthly meeting crowd and > provides > the synergy of a larger group. > > > > PROCESS > > Take notes of the goals discussed and rank or categorize them by the > level of > agreement or support. > > There is wiki that is (ostensibly) for posting comments. It's not > designed too > well, but it can be used for submitting our comments. > http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPCA_Strategic_Action_Plan > > > > DISCUSSION > > The state party wants to hear what Locals think our long-term goals > should be. > This requires some degree of open discussion, but the exercise must > remain > moderated by the theme of realistic goals. For every suggested goal, the > presenter should have some idea of a strategy to implement that goal. > > Basically, the question to answer is, "What should the GPCA accomplish > in five > years and in ten years?" > > Some organizing may help the discussion: > > Political Goals > Partisan and non-partisan candidates > Campaigns and ballot proposition > Election reforms > > Internal / Party Goals > Voter registration > Developing county Locals > Fund raising > Internal structure and process > > > > REFERENCES > > State committee and working group people have been discussing this > subject and > have come up with their list of issues. These are being provided here > just as > a reference, they should not be used as guidance for your > discussions. Its > purpose is to provide input as to what volunteers at the state level > see as > our long-term issues. > > 1. Given the current recession and its detrimental effect on > fundraising, > should GPCA and its locals adopt a "survival plan" until recovery is > tangible > (e.g. unemployment below 8%)? How would this affect all goals and > strategies? > > 2. What are realistic voter registration goals? What attracts people > to a > small party? What caused the California Green registration decline of > the past > six years, can it be reversed? > > 3. Given that we have less than 1% of registered voters, what are > realistic > electoral strategies for a party of our size? Do we continue attempts in > partisan races or focus on non-partisan races? Is there a realistic > strategy > for winning partisan races? > > 4. How do we recruit/develop electable candidates for non-partisan > offices? > > 5. Does Prop 14 provide any potential to us? > > 6. Should we make a real, concerted effort to promote ranked-choice > voting > (i.e. Instant Runoff Voting and proportional representation)? > > 7. The GPCA's decentralized structure and consensus-seeking decision > process > is an experiment that we've carried on for 20 years. Is it working well > enough? Is there a good balance of responsibilities between the state > party > and the county parties? Should we examine giving more authority over > internal > business to the state party? > > 8. Is continuing to rely solely on volunteer labor a viable plan for > growth? > > 9. What factors have created viable, stable Locals? What factors have > caused > Locals to deteriorate? > > 10. What resources do Locals need from the state party? What resources > does > the state party need from Locals? > > > Contact Jim (mailto:jims at greens.org) with any questions or comments. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-news mailing list is moderated. > Post to sosfbay-news at cagreens.org > Reply to sender or sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-news > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From andi at wrytor.com Thu Feb 17 10:51:18 2011 From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:51:18 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Citizens United Anniversary In-Reply-To: <735133.56422.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4D2EA981.4000206@earthlink.net> <4D2F855D.4050606@freeshell.org> <735133.56422.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow! Caroline states it simply and powerfully once again! Andrea On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Rather than doing something quiet and dignified, how about standing outside a corporate headquarters with someone dressed up in boxing clothes and bouncing around, jabbing, and looking fierce while the rest of us hold up a banner that says, "Come on out and fight like a person"? > Caroline > > From: fred > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 3:06:05 PM > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Citizens United Anniversary > > Thanks, Gerry, > > Let's put "Move To Amend" on the next Green Party of SCC monthly meeting. > > Fred > > On 1/12/11 11:28 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > > I just received an email from Move to Amend. > > > > ( http://movetoamend.org/ ) > > > > > > They are asking for actions on or around the first > > anniversary of the Citizens United decision (Jan. 21). > > They list some local actions: > > > > http://movetoamend.org/action/local-actions-january-21st-first-anniversary-citizens-united-decision > > > > > > I looked through the list and was dismayed that not many are > > listed. > > > > I was further dismayed that there is no action listed in > > Santa Clara County. Partly because it is our county. > > Partly because it was Southern Pacific vs. Santa Clara > > County that created corporate personhood. > > > > So I think we should organize an event. Probably in downtown > > San Jose, either at a county building or a federal building. > > > > ... Or (from movetoamend): > > * Places of government and finance, local government buildings or > > the state capitol. > > * Find your federal courthouse here or here > > * At national corporation?s headquarters, or > > * At local or state Chamber of Commerce headquarters. > > > > I think it should be on Jan. 21, (a Friday). 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Feb 18 01:12:21 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:12:21 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] VFP on Ray McGovern Message-ID: <4D5E37F5.2000103@earthlink.net> Veterans for Peace statement about Ray McGovern. http://www.veteransforpeace.org/ Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Feb 18 01:50:58 2011 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:50:58 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] US Trying to deliver undeclared weapons and drugs to the Argentine Police Message-ID: <4D5E4102.2010803@prodsyse.com> Hello: The government of Argentina approved US training of the Argentine federal police Grupo de Operaciones Especiales Federal (GEOF ? Federal Special Operations Group). However, when training materials arrived in a huge US Air Force C-17 last Thursday, Feb. 12, an unanticipated inspection by Argentine government personnel found "1,000 cubic feet of material, the equivalent of one third of the cargo" was not on the official manifest given to the Argentine government. This extra material included machine gun and rifle barrels, and apparently drugs.(a) Is the US trying to destroy democracy in Argentina again, as we apparently did in Honduras last year? Is the US trying to resurrect Operation Condor(b) and the Argentine Dirty War?(c) Spencer (a) Horacio Verbitsky, "Argentina: Undeclared weapons and drugs found on US military plane" (http://lo-de-alla.org/2011/02/argentina-undeclared-weapons-and-drugs-found-on-us-military-plane); Costa Rica Wire Services, "Argentina says U.S. plane held drugs, weapons" (http://amcostaricaarchives.com/2011/02/argentina-says-u-s-plane-held-drugs-weapons) (b) Wikipedia, "Operation Condor" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor) (c) Wikipedia, "Dirty War" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War) -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Feb 18 11:20:46 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:20:46 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Congress Attacks Free Speech Online Message-ID: <4D5EC68E.10401@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Congress Attacks Free Speech Online Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:18:05 +0000 From: Timothy Karr, FreePress.net Reply-To: Timothy Karr, FreePress.net To: Gerald Gras SavetheInternet.com *Take Action Now* Dear Gerald, Yesterday, the House voted to block the FCC from protecting our right to access an open Internet. If successful, the move would give phone and cable companies absolute, unrestricted power over the Internet. In the Senate, Republicans have introduced a "resolution of disapproval" that would strip the FCC of its authority to protect our right to free speech online.^1 Both of these moves come at a time when phone and cable giants are already restricting our ability to connect with others and share information.^2 We can stop the resolution in the Senate by getting 51 members to stand with us for online freedom: *Tell Your Senators: Defend Our Right to Free Speech Online* A House vote is on the books. It's now up to the Senate. If it doesn't stop this resolution, the FCC would be barred from enforcing its already weak Net Neutrality rule, and from acting /in any way/ to protect Internet users against corporate abuses by AT&T, Comcast and Verizon. *This is not a symbolic congressional exercise ? it's a scorched-earth campaign that leaves Americans at the mercy of a corporate cartel.* Imagine a world where these companies are allowed to do anything they want, ban any speech they don't like, charge anything they can get away with, and hold innovation hostage to their profit margins. If this resolution passes, there's nothing anyone could do about it. The resolution is filibuster-proof. We need at least 51 senators to beat it. Will your senators stand with us? *Sign this letter to demand that Senators Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer protect free speech online. * We will deliver it to their offices in Washington and provide you with tools to spread the word across California. Thanks for all you can do. Timothy Karr Campaign Director Free Press Action Fund www.freepress.net www.SavetheInternet.com 1. Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas), Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) and John Ensign (R-Nevada) introduced the ?resolution of disapproval ? on Wednesday. It already has 39 Republican cosponsors. In the House, Reps. Fred Upton (R-Michigan) and Greg Walden (R-Oregon) are pushing a similar measure. 2. FCC Commissioner Michael Copps outlined the recent history of ?real threats? to Internet openness during his opening remarks Wednesday before the House Commerce Committee (pdf). From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Feb 17 23:31:39 2011 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:31:39 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] US Trying to deliver undeclared weapons and drugs to the Argentine Police Message-ID: <4D5E205B.801@structuremonitoring.com> Hello: The government of Argentina approved US training of the Argentine federal police Grupo de Operaciones Especiales Federal (GEOF ? Federal Special Operations Group). However, when training materials arrived in a huge US Air Force C-17 last Thursday, Feb. 12, an unanticipated inspection by Argentine government personnel found "1,000 cubic feet of material, the equivalent of one third of the cargo" was not on the official manifest given to the Argentine government. This extra material included machine gun and rifle barrels, and apparently drugs.(a) Is the US trying to destroy democracy in Argentina again, as we apparently did in Honduras last year? Is the US trying to resurrect Operation Condor(b) and the Argentine Dirty War?(c) Spencer (a) Horacio Verbitsky, "Argentina: Undeclared weapons and drugs found on US military plane" (http://lo-de-alla.org/2011/02/argentina-undeclared-weapons-and-drugs-found-on-us-military-plane); Costa Rica Wire Services, "Argentina says U.S. plane held drugs, weapons" (http://amcostaricaarchives.com/2011/02/argentina-says-u-s-plane-held-drugs-weapons) (b) Wikipedia, "Operation Condor" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor) (c) Wikipedia, "Dirty War" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War) -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Feb 18 17:48:19 2011 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:48:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] No Natural Gas in Northern New Mexico In-Reply-To: <4D5D6C75.8090903@earthlink.net> References: <4D5D6C75.8090903@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <976190.13064.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'd like to start a collection of nasty weather anecdotes. If you have one, oplease send it along. Caroline ________________________________ From: Gerry Gras To: Post South SF Bay discuss Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 10:44:05 AM Subject: [GPSCC-chat] No Natural Gas in Northern New Mexico FYI, This is a story about a complex series of actions that led to many homes having no heat when it was very cold outside. http://blogs.worldwatch.org/revolt/new-mexico?s-winter-tale-gas-gas-everywhere-but-not-a-drop-to-burn/ Gerry _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Feb 20 10:02:18 2011 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (spencerg) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 10:02:18 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Vision 2012 Message-ID: <4D61572A.4030801@prodsyse.com> A minor history lesson & a vision for 2012: * History: In 1993, the Progressive Conservative party, Canada's equivalent then to the Republicans in the US, went from a solid majority, 169 seats out of 295, to 2 in one election.(a) Bill Clinton defeated a popular incumbent in 1992 by repeating often, "It's the economy, stupid."(b) In 2008, Barack Obama used social media to defeat the leading candidates for the Democratic nomination.(c) That victory then brought in the big money that secured the oval office for him. * If we can open up the Green party web site to social media and a Green Wiki, we will get some terrible crap, Libartarian and worse, but overall it could become the primary news source for a critical mass of the US electorate. This in turn could produce a revolution in the polls similar to 1993 in Canada and the current revolt from Morroco to Afghanistan (including Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Algeria, Yemen, and who knows where else). It's the economy, stupid -- and if we are nimble enough to provide social media for the youth who use it routinely, we can set the terms of the political debate in 2012. In so doing, we can force the commercial media and mainstream candidates to discuss honestly the issues and options that concern the bottom 90 percent of humanity. The alternative for the media is to lose the respect and attention of the voting public, and with it their profitability. The alternative for the Republicans and Democrats is to lose elections, thereby following into political history dictators they've supported like Mubarak, the Shah in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, ... . Comments? Spencer ##################### (a) Wikipedia, "List of Canadian federal general elections" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_federal_general_elections) (b) Wikipedia, "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid) (c) Paul van Veenendaal and Igor Beuker (2009) "Case Study of Effectiveness: The Barack Obama Campaign" (paul at socialmedia8.com; "http://www.mintinnovation.com/links/docs/Marketing/The%20Barak%20Obama%20Strategy.pdf", accessed 2011.02.20) -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Sun Feb 20 09:57:17 2011 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:57:17 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Vision 2012 Message-ID: <4D6155FD.3000706@structuremonitoring.com> A minor history lesson & a vision for 2012: * History: In 1993, the Progressive Conservative party, Canada's equivalent then to the Republicans in the US, went from a solid majority, 169 seats out of 295, to 2 in one election.(a) Bill Clinton defeated a popular incumbent in 1992 by repeating often, "It's the economy, stupid."(b) In 2008, Barack Obama used social media to defeat the leading candidates for the Democratic nomination.(c) That victory then brought in the big money that secured the oval office for him. * If we can open up the Green party web site to social media and a Green Wiki, we will get some terrible crap, Libartarian and worse, but overall it could become the primary news source for a critical mass of the US electorate. This in turn could produce a revolution in the polls similar to 1993 in Canada and the current revolt from Morroco to Afghanistan (including Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, Algeria, Yemen, and who knows where else). It's the economy, stupid -- and if we are nimble enough to provide social media for the youth who use it routinely, we can set the terms of the political debate in 2012. In so doing, we can force the commercial media and mainstream candidates to discuss honestly the issues and options that concern the bottom 90 percent of humanity. The alternative for the media is to lose the respect and attention of the voting public, and with it their profitability. The alternative for the Republicans and Democrats is to lose elections, thereby following into political history dictators they've supported like Mubarak, the Shah in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, ... . Comments? Spencer ##################### (a) Wikipedia, "List of Canadian federal general elections" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_federal_general_elections) (b) Wikipedia, "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid) (c) Paul van Veenendaal and Igor Beuker (2009) "Case Study of Effectiveness: The Barack Obama Campaign" (paul at socialmedia8.com; "http://www.mintinnovation.com/links/docs/Marketing/The%20Barak%20Obama%20Strategy.pdf", accessed 2011.02.20) -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Feb 21 17:16:53 2011 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 20:16:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Call For Volunteers for a GPUS Presidential Nominating Convention in San Jose Message-ID: <3bffa.11fdbf4b.3a946885@aol.com> Folks: At the January GPSCC general meeting, we again briefly discussed the idea that the GPSCC might consider hosting the 2012 GPUS Presidential Nominating Convention. At that time it was suggested we should see if there were 25 individuals who would volunteer for what would be an extended planning process and an intense local hosting event in June or July 2012. The biggest issue for doing this is a site needs to be identified ASAP and reservations made about a year in advance. There also is a formal process for the proposal to be accepted by the national Green Party, which will have responsibility for all contracts and expenses. The GPUS also will have responsibility for the handling on-line registration and credentialing delegates. The GPUS also will have responsibility for preparing all meeting schedules. This would be an opportunity to learn or hone various skills in event planning and operations, community outreach, media relations and other components of such an event. It would need commitments for event participation in such areas as preparing local information (transportation, meals, local areas of interest); providing persons to assist with registration, directions and transportation assistance, go-for assistance as-needed, and locating local home hosts for people for whom dorm or hotel costs would be a financial hardship. If you are willing to volunteer for any of these (or other tasks) to prepare a proposal and help out with the event, please contact Warner Bloomberg (408) 295-9353 _wb3d23 at aol.com_ (mailto:wb3d23 at aol.com) Thanx!!! 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Message-ID: <4D648AD8.7090901@charter.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Climate Change Changes Everything. Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:00:16 -0800 From: Wes Rolley To: cal-forum at cagreens.org I have a twitter account (wrolley). Starting today, I am tweeting about the things that climate change is changing. Tonight's tweet: climate change changes everything. Now, it is allergies. http://tinyurl.com/4zp5km6 BTW... they single out N. California... just to justify putting it on this list. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Feb 22 21:00:02 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:00:02 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Strategy Meeting Message-ID: I'm disappointed that there's no followup discussion to the strategy meeting, but I'm not surprised. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Feb 22 23:02:11 2011 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:02:11 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Strategy Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D64B0F3.9090803@aceweb.com> Brian Good wrote: > I'm disappointed that there's no followup discussion to the strategy > meeting, > but I'm not surprised. > I didn't feel like it was a discussion. More of a railroading session. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org My bathroom's heat lamp burned out. The old bulb was in a decade plus. New one cost $9.39+tax. The '00 PB Park pin's on a DC quarter on 2/22. From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Wed Feb 23 10:33:05 2011 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:33:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Strategy Meeting Message-ID: <20110223183305.6796B6A9AC@truffula.sj.ca.us> > I didn't feel like it was a discussion. More of a railroading session. It was kind of frustrating. Only stuff Jim felt was significant went onto the easel. Had we known it would work that way, Susan and I wouldn't have spent the time. It was nice to see the San Mateo folks, though. -Cameron From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Feb 23 12:04:06 2011 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:04:06 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Strategy Meeting In-Reply-To: <20110223183305.6796B6A9AC@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20110223183305.6796B6A9AC@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: Jim was trying to avoid tangents and getting bogged down in specific action plans and stick to the agenda of defining and fleshing out goals. As it was, the meeting was too long, and I thought he did a good job of trying to stick to business. There were a couple of things I wondered why he didn't write them down, but probably he was just tired. It was a long meeting. Our group has three components, I think. Some people want it to be a social/fun group. Some people want it to be an activist group and do demonstrations and leaflets and media and campaign work. Some people want to focus on the political party business. The "Food for Thought" programs do a good job of integrating the first two groups. The plenary last winter did a pretty good job of integrating the first and last groups. It's hard to find anything that engages all three groups. BTW, Tony Blair, Bush's rabid poodle, is appearing at Flint Center March 10, 11, and 12. When Colin Powell was there five years ago hundreds protested for three days running. > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:33:05 -0800 > From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Strategy Meeting > > > > I didn't feel like it was a discussion. More of a railroading session. > > It was kind of frustrating. Only stuff Jim felt was significant > went onto the easel. Had we known it would work that way, > Susan and I wouldn't have spent the time. > It was nice to see the San Mateo folks, though. > > -Cameron > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Wed Feb 23 19:26:36 2011 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:26:36 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Strategy Meeting In-Reply-To: <20110223183305.6796B6A9AC@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <20110223183305.6796B6A9AC@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <4D65CFEC.5090202@greens.org> Then you two should have organized and facilitated the session, especially since neither of you contributed much. In the announcement for this event and in my introduction I said this wasn't a brainstorming session where we would list every idea that anyone wanted to throw out to the group. It was an attempt at setting realistic, long-term goals for the party. I facilitated the meeting accordingly. It was something of an experiment, to see if local Greens could engage in a discussion about where we want to be in five years, rather than just which demonstration we're going to this weekend. If Tian's and Cameron's comments are typical, then the experiment was a failure. If this Local ever wants to try something like this again, maybe these guys should try to facilitate this kind of meeting, it wasn't easy. Jim On 2/23/2011 10:33 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > >> {Tian} I didn't feel like it was a discussion. More of a railroading session. > > It was kind of frustrating. Only stuff Jim felt was significant > went onto the easel. Had we known it would work that way, > Susan and I wouldn't have spent the time. > It was nice to see the San Mateo folks, though. > > -Cameron > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Feb 24 15:19:25 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:19:25 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ending the Afghan War? Message-ID: <4D66E77D.9050001@earthlink.net> Barbara Lee has introduced a bill (H.R. 780) to end the Afghan War. http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17415588?nclick_check=1 Gerry From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Feb 24 16:41:16 2011 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:41:16 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Citizens United Anniversary In-Reply-To: References: <4D2EA981.4000206@earthlink.net> <4D2F855D.4050606@freeshell.org><735133.56422.qm@web81205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D66FAAC.7040407@aceweb.com> The only problem I can think of is "what happens if the security guard gets ideas?" Andrea Dorey wrote: > Wow! Caroline states it simply and powerfully once again! > Andrea > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > >> Rather than doing something quiet and dignified, how about standing >> outside a corporate headquarters with someone dressed up in boxing >> clothes and bouncing around, jabbing, and looking fierce while the >> rest of us hold up a banner that says, "Come on out and fight like a >> person"? >> Caroline >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* fred > >> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> *Sent:* Thu, January 13, 2011 3:06:05 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Citizens United Anniversary >> >> Thanks, Gerry, >> >> Let's put "Move To Amend" on the next Green Party of SCC monthly meeting. >> >> Fred >> >> On 1/12/11 11:28 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: >> > >> > I just received an email from Move to Amend. >> > >> > ( http://movetoamend.org/ ) >> > >> > >> > They are asking for actions on or around the first >> > anniversary of the Citizens United decision (Jan. 21). >> > They list some local actions: >> > >> > http://movetoamend.org/action/local-actions-january-21st-first-anniversary-citizens-united-decision >> > >> > >> > I looked through the list and was dismayed that not many are >> > listed. >> > >> > I was further dismayed that there is no action listed in >> > Santa Clara County. Partly because it is our county. >> > Partly because it was Southern Pacific vs. Santa Clara >> > County that created corporate personhood. >> > >> > So I think we should organize an event. Probably in downtown >> > San Jose, either at a county building or a federal building. >> > >> > ... Or (from movetoamend): >> > * Places of government and finance, local government buildings or >> > the state capitol. >> > * Find your federal courthouse here or here >> > * At national corporation?s headquarters, or >> > * At local or state Chamber of Commerce headquarters. >> > >> > I think it should be on Jan. 21, (a Friday). Time should be >> > 3-5 or 4-6 or 5-7? >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > Gerry >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change. Added a 21st Century version of a bugged Abraham Lincoln. The '00 PB Park pin is on a DC quarter on 2/23. From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Feb 24 16:48:32 2011 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:48:32 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: Green Meeting this evening! 7ish meeting Peace Center.] Message-ID: <4D66FC60.4080608@aceweb.com> 7:00ish get to the peace center. 7:30 Green Party Meeting at Peace Center. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change. Added a 21st Century version of a bugged Abraham Lincoln. The '00 PB Park pin is on a DC quarter on 2/23. From tnharter at aceweb.com Thu Feb 24 17:07:25 2011 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:07:25 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: Green Meeting this evening! 7ish meeting PeaceCenter.] In-Reply-To: <4D66FC60.4080608@aceweb.com> References: <4D66FC60.4080608@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4D6700CD.6030507@aceweb.com> This is the agenda I'm bringing ten copies of to the meeting: Green Party meeting, Thursday February 24th, 2011 Pick facilitator Pick note taker Pick vibes watcher Pick time keeper Pick Agenda preparer for next time. Go round of introductions Revise and or approve agenda. Explicit long term goals with associated development of plans for achieving those long term goals be on the agenda. Budget, namely, not how much, but what for? Well, yes, make some estimates on the amounts. Treasurer's Report: December Holiday Peace Fair $50 received $45 paid for the table January pass the hat $28 $2,735.59 in the bank as of 1-31-2011 In summary Long term plans Budget Tabling stuff in Caroline's garage. Regional Rep job opening. Clean up and turn off lights. Tian Harter wrote: > > 7:00ish get to the peace center. > 7:30 Green Party Meeting at Peace Center. > -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change. Added a 21st Century version of a bugged Abraham Lincoln. The '00 PB Park pin is on a DC quarter on 2/23. From WB4D23 at aol.com Thu Feb 24 17:07:24 2011 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:07:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Strategy Meeting Message-ID: <2776f.19213fa0.3a985acc@aol.com> The Strategy Meeting was announced and intended to be about the State Party and its future. We have held a number of local party strategy meetings over the years. Sometime they have helped direct our work for the year, sometimes not (because of need for volunteers to do the work). If folks want to organize a more locally focused strategy meeting, there is nothing to prevent that (other than available time and energies). Warner In a message dated 2/23/2011 7:26:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jims at greens.org writes: In the announcement for this event and in my introduction I said this wasn't a brainstorming session where we would list every idea that anyone wanted to throw out to the group. It was an attempt at setting realistic, long-term goals for the party. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Feb 24 20:31:41 2011 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:31:41 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: Green Meeting this evening! 7ish meeting PeaceCenter.] In-Reply-To: <4D6700CD.6030507@aceweb.com> References: <4D66FC60.4080608@aceweb.com> <4D6700CD.6030507@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <4D6730AD.3090706@structuremonitoring.com> On 2/24/2011 5:07 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > This is the agenda I'm bringing ten copies of to the meeting: > > Green Party meeting, Thursday February 24th, 2011 > > Pick facilitator: Tian > > Pick note taker: Spencer > > Pick vibes watcher: Werner. > > Pick time keeper: Caroline. > > Pick Agenda preparer for next time: Tian. > > Go round of introductions: Jim Stauffer, Werner, Caroline, Tian, > Spencer. > > Revise and or approve agenda: > > Treasurer's Report: (2 min.) > December Holiday Peace Fair $50 received $45 paid for the table > January pass the hat $28 > $2,735.59 in the bank as of 1-31-2011 > > In summary > Long term plans > Budget > > Tabling stuff in Caroline's garage (1 min.): Caroline has a huge filing cabinet plus a suitcase for tabling plus the button machine & related equipment & "swag" = rocks, t-shirts, ... . Caroline would like more people to have a "tabling kit". Caroline thinks it is NOT good for all the stuff to be in one place. Maybe a party for making tabling kits? Caroline will email around to recruit people. Tian suggests a county wide voter registration drive to give a prize ... . Tian will add this to the agenda for next month. > > Regional Rep job opening (10 min.) Jim Stauffer: Next month we will have an election for regional reps. We need two people. Werner volunteered. Jim prefers to have the second be someone from San Mateo county. Roy Nordbloom has also volunteered. However, he has not spent much time in the past with the Green party. Spencer has also volunteered. Proposed: Werner is the candidate for the regional rep. Spencer and Roy will run for the alternate, with the understanding that the winner will resign if San Mateo elects a regional rep. Jim Stauffer is on their email list. The list seems to be more active than the group. ####################### Jim Stauffer's strategy meeting (5 min.): Jim is working on a report summarizing the discussion last Saturday. Werner suggests Jim post his report to the local Green Discuss list while simultaneously submitting it to the state. Jim will also post it on the Wiki and circulating the URL to the Wiki. Spencer volunteered to prepare a tutorial on inputting a Wiki. Proposed (Jim Doyle) : "Explicit long term goals with associated development of plans for achieving those long term goals be on the agenda. Budget, namely, not how much, but what for? Well, yes, make some estimates on the amounts." (10 min.) In brief, this seems to be a request for a planning session for detailed actions to achieve the goals in Jim Stauffer's meeting last Saturday. Werner will post to the Green Discuss list a request for people to bring their proposed Green party activities for the next meeting to initiate planning for the rest of the year. Werner will also send an email to Jim Doyle to ask him to clarify what he intended in proposing this topic for the agenda. > > Clean up and turn off lights. > > > Tian Harter wrote: >> >> 7:00ish get to the peace center. >> 7:30 Green Party Meeting at Peace Center. >> > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From jims at greens.org Fri Feb 25 16:11:47 2011 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:11:47 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Goals and Strategy Meeting Report Message-ID: <4D684543.3050902@greens.org> The report on our goals and strategy meeting last weekend is available from two sources: ** Green Party Wiki Located at http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPCA_Strategic_Action_Plan Under "General Discussion," look for the "Report from Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties" link. You can add comments in the wiki. ** Downloadable Copy A PDF copy of the report can be downloaded at http://cagreens.org/misc/G_S_Report.pdf Jim From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Fri Feb 25 17:27:59 2011 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:27:59 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Goals and Strategy Meeting Report In-Reply-To: <4D684543.3050902@greens.org> References: <4D684543.3050902@greens.org> Message-ID: <4D68571F.60501@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: 1. Editing Wiki text is shockingly easy: Just click the "edit" tab at the top of the page, then do whatever you want. When you are done, clicking "Save page" at the bottom will make your changes visible to all. Before clicking "Save page", however, you are encouraged to click "Show preview" to see if it looks like you thought. Don't worry about making a mess. The Wiki software keeps track of changes so anything you do can be undone by someone else. Wiki editors have the power to undo changes with a few keystrokes. So if someone completely deletes the current content, a person with designated Editor powers can undo the deletions. I don't know who the editors are for the Green Wiki, but we doubtless have some. 2. Wiki formatting can be a little more difficult. Those who want better control of formatting have at least three options: (2.1) Call Spencer, spencer.graves at prodsyse.com or 408-655-4567. (2.2) Try to copy the style from something else with the effects you want. (2.3) Read the fine manual (RTFM), which we'd all do first of we only knew which FMTR. To start, I suggest "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page". 3. Wiki etiquette prefers you to "create an account" and then "log in" before you change something. However, this is not required. Moreover, you are not required to use your real name, and Wikipedia encourages people to consider using a user name that does not personally identify them (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username_policy). [My Wiki name is DavidMCEddy, which is extracted from the name of one of my Great Grandfathers.] Thanks to Jim Stauffer for organizing the session last Saturday and making the notes available for all of us to read, revise, etc. Best Wishes, Spencer Graves 408-655-4567 On 2/25/2011 4:11 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > The report on our goals and strategy meeting last weekend is available > from two sources: > > ** Green Party Wiki > > Located at http://wiki.cagreens.org/index.php/GPCA_Strategic_Action_Plan > > Under "General Discussion," look for the "Report from Santa Clara and > San Mateo Counties" link. > > You can add comments in the wiki. > > > ** Downloadable Copy > > A PDF copy of the report can be downloaded at > > http://cagreens.org/misc/G_S_Report.pdf > > > Jim > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From rob.means at electric-bikes.com Fri Feb 25 21:25:55 2011 From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:25:55 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Save the American Dream rally - stand with Wisconsin activists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <018001cbd575$a59f46c0$7501a8c0@INTERBIKE06> I am leaving Milpitas Saturday morning to help save unions (democracy in the workplace) and the middle class. Anyone interested in car-pooling? http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?rc=rsad_pcit&action_id=238 Saturday, 26 Feb 2011, 12:00 PM Save the American Dream rally - 37 miles away In front of SF City Hall 1738 registered participant(s) (10000 maximum) [at 9:00pm Friday] 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place San Francisco, CA 94102 Directions: 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place San Francisco, CA 94102 Directions available on Mapquest or Google Maps. About three blocks toward the Golden Gate Bridge from BART's Civic Center station. Hosted by Frank Burton & David Siegel, Pat Blackwell-Marchant, David Siegel, Jaclynn Tybursky, Pat Johnstone Description Take action: This is an all-hands-on-deck moment. The protests in Wisconsin are sparking something we haven't seen for years. Hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets of Madison Wisconsin to stop a radical, right-wing attack on workers. Protesters have occupied the Capitol building for the last eight days and nights. Thousands of us are going to rally across the street from the San Francisco City Hall at Noon Saturday in solidarity with the people of Wisconsin. The sheer arrogance of Tea Party governor Scott Walker said he could dismantle 50 years of workers' rights without a fight, but boy was he wrong. He has awakened the sleeping giant--us, the people of America. This isn't just about Wisconsin. In state capitols across the country and in Washington D.C., Republicans are using the putrid economy their Wall Street buddies wrecked as an excuse to slash vital programs and hurt workers, infants, children, and seniors. The American Dream is under attack. T ------------ Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 25 22:58:21 2011 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:58:21 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Earth Day at SJSU Message-ID: <4D68A48D.9040605@sbcglobal.net> Mark your calendars for Earth Day at SJSU, I received the below email from the Environmental Resource Center at San Jose State and responded with the email Hello Cathy, Yes, The Green Party of Santa Clara County will be there. What other opportunities will we have other than tabling? Re your questions: fire away. Jim Doyle Hello Jim, I am part of the Environmental Resource Center at San Jose State University and we are organizing our annual Earth Day Celebration which is on Thursday, April 21st, 10:00am to 2:00pm. I would like to know if the Green Party of Santa Clara County is interested in becoming involved by tabling or through another form of participation for this year. If so, I would like to give more details and ask you some questions so we may accommodate you at the event. Thank you! -Cathy Bui From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Feb 26 00:18:37 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:18:37 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Save the American Dream rally - stand with Wisconsin activists In-Reply-To: <018001cbd575$a59f46c0$7501a8c0@INTERBIKE06> References: <018001cbd575$a59f46c0$7501a8c0@INTERBIKE06> Message-ID: <4D68B75D.5010207@earthlink.net> I was planning on taking Caltrain. I might be interested in car pooling if you are going near here at the right time. This may be a really significant event. There are events all over the country. There are now 1808 people registered for San Francisco, 901 for Sacramento, 1002 registered for Wash. DC, 2377 registered for New York City, 983 registered for Boston, 1805 for Chicago. That's registered, and many people don't bother registering, (I have not). Gerry 650-424-0842 Rob Means wrote: > I am leaving Milpitas Saturday morning to help save unions (democracy in > the workplace) and the middle class. Anyone interested in car-pooling? > > http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?rc=rsad_pcit&action_id=238 > > Saturday, 26 Feb 2011, 12:00 PM Save the American Dream rally - > 37 miles away In front of SF City Hall > 1738 registered participant(s) (10000 maximum) [at 9:00pm Friday] > 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place > San Francisco, CA 94102 > Directions: 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place > San Francisco, CA 94102 > Directions available on Mapquest or Google Maps. About three blocks > toward the Golden Gate Bridge from BART's Civic Center station. > Hosted by Frank Burton& David Siegel, Pat Blackwell-Marchant, David > Siegel, Jaclynn Tybursky, Pat Johnstone > Description Take action: This is an all-hands-on-deck moment. > The protests in Wisconsin are sparking something we haven't seen for > years. Hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets of > Madison Wisconsin to stop a radical, right-wing attack on workers. > Protesters have occupied the Capitol building for the last eight days > and nights. > Thousands of us are going to rally across the street from the San > Francisco City Hall at Noon Saturday in solidarity with the people of > Wisconsin. > The sheer arrogance of Tea Party governor Scott Walker said he could > dismantle 50 years of workers' rights without a fight, but boy was he > wrong. He has awakened the sleeping giant--us, the people of America. > This isn't just about Wisconsin. In state capitols across the country > and in Washington D.C., Republicans are using the putrid economy their > Wall Street buddies wrecked as an excuse to slash vital programs and > hurt workers, infants, children, and seniors. > > The American Dream is under attack. T > ------------ > Rob Means, Electro Ride Bikes and Scooters > 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com > 1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 > Discover cycling that's Easy, Safe, Fast - and FUN! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Feb 26 04:04:16 2011 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 04:04:16 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Plutocracy Anyone? Message-ID: <4D68EC40.90501@earthlink.net> FYI, two articles about plutocracy ... -------- "Plutocracy Now: What Wisconsin Is Really About" http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/income-inequality-labor-union-decline (this was forwarded to me by 2 different people) ======== "The Plutocrat's Coup d'Etat, Their Republican Allies and Their Democratic Enablers" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/02/25-1 (I think he's about a year behind Chris Hedges, but it is still worth reading.) ======== Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Sat Feb 26 10:28:45 2011 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:28:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Earth Day at SJSU In-Reply-To: <4D68A48D.9040605@sbcglobal.net> References: <4D68A48D.9040605@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <93062.55087.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Okay, let's get busy organizing the lit, making new stuff, updating things. Is there a newer Green Focus? Let's all grab a clipboard and some registration forms and get out there and drum up some new Greens. ________________________________ From: Jim Doyle To: sosfbay discussion group Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 10:58:21 PM Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Earth Day at SJSU Mark your calendars for Earth Day at SJSU, I received the below email from the Environmental Resource Center at San Jose State and responded with the email Hello Cathy, Yes, The Green Party of Santa Clara County will be there. What other opportunities will we have other than tabling? Re your questions: fire away. Jim Doyle Hello Jim, I am part of the Environmental Resource Center at San Jose State University and we are organizing our annual Earth Day Celebration which is on Thursday, April 21st, 10:00am to 2:00pm. I would like to know if the Green Party of Santa Clara County is interested in becoming involved by tabling or through another form of participation for this year. If so, I would like to give more details and ask you some questions so we may accommodate you at the event. Thank you! -Cathy Bui _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Sat Feb 26 12:26:58 2011 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:26:58 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Earth Day at SJSU In-Reply-To: <93062.55087.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4D68A48D.9040605@sbcglobal.net> <93062.55087.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D696212.7010209@charter.net> On 2/26/2011 10:28 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Okay, let's get busy organizing the lit, making new stuff, updating > things. Is there a newer Green Focus? Let's all grab a clipboard and > some registration forms and get out there and drum up some new Greens. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ** *There is a new Green Focus being produced... or so I hear... It will focus on education issues and be targeted for students. * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Sat Feb 26 15:48:16 2011 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:48:16 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Meeting Minutes [WAS: Green Meeting this evening! 7ish meeting PeaceCenter.] In-Reply-To: <4D6730AD.3090706@structuremonitoring.com> References: <4D66FC60.4080608@aceweb.com> <4D6700CD.6030507@aceweb.com> <4D6730AD.3090706@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: <4D699140.70300@greens.org> There's a couple entries I'd like changed, as they're inappropriately personalized to me. Corrections inline below. Jim P.S. Warner's name is not spelled "Werner." On 2/24/2011 8:31 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: > >> Regional Rep job opening (10 min.) > > Jim Stauffer: Next month we will have an election for regional reps. We need > two people. Werner volunteered. Jim prefers to have the second be someone from > San Mateo county. This is not a preference of mine. It was generally agreed when this two-county region was formed that we would strive for a Rep from one county and an Alt Rep from the other county. > > Roy Nordbloom has also volunteered. However, he has not spent much time in the > past with the Green party. > > Spencer has also volunteered. > > Proposed: Werner is the candidate for the regional rep. Spencer and Roy will > run for the alternate, with the understanding that the winner will resign if > San Mateo elects a regional rep. Jim Stauffer is on their email list. The list > seems to be more active than the group. Please remove that last sentence (or two). It sounds demeaning, and I don't believe that is what I said. ---------------------------- > > Jim Stauffer's strategy meeting (5 min.): Jim is working on a report > summarizing the discussion last Saturday. Werner suggests Jim post his report > to the local Green Discuss list while simultaneously submitting it to the > state. Jim will also post it on the Wiki and circulating the URL to the Wiki. That was not MY strategy meeting. It was a Green Party event that I organized. Tian constantly referred to it as "Jim's strategy meeting" during last Thursday's meeting, along with his other snipes and complaints. He makes these statements derogatorily, as is his habit to complain about everything I do. I don't think we need his childish comments enshrined in the meeting minutes. From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Sat Feb 26 16:08:36 2011 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:08:36 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Meeting Minutes [WAS: Green Meeting this evening! 7ish meeting PeaceCenter.] In-Reply-To: <4D699140.70300@greens.org> References: <4D66FC60.4080608@aceweb.com> <4D6700CD.6030507@aceweb.com> <4D6730AD.3090706@structuremonitoring.com> <4D699140.70300@greens.org> Message-ID: <4D699604.7030100@structuremonitoring.com> Jim: Thanks for the corrections. I apologize for the inaccuracies. Spencer On 2/26/2011 3:48 PM, Jim Stauffer wrote: > There's a couple entries I'd like changed, as they're inappropriately > personalized to me. > > Corrections inline below. > > Jim > > P.S. Warner's name is not spelled "Werner." > > > > On 2/24/2011 8:31 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: >> >>> Regional Rep job opening (10 min.) >> >> Jim Stauffer: Next month we will have an election for regional reps. >> We need >> two people. Werner volunteered. Jim prefers to have the second be >> someone from >> San Mateo county. > > This is not a preference of mine. It was generally agreed when this > two-county region was formed that we would strive for a Rep from one > county and an Alt Rep from the other county. > > >> >> Roy Nordbloom has also volunteered. However, he has not spent much >> time in the >> past with the Green party. >> >> Spencer has also volunteered. >> >> Proposed: Werner is the candidate for the regional rep. Spencer and >> Roy will >> run for the alternate, with the understanding that the winner will >> resign if >> San Mateo elects a regional rep. Jim Stauffer is on their email list. >> The list >> seems to be more active than the group. > > Please remove that last sentence (or two). It sounds demeaning, and I > don't believe that is what I said. > ---------------------------- > > >> >> Jim Stauffer's strategy meeting (5 min.): Jim is working on a report >> summarizing the discussion last Saturday. Werner suggests Jim post >> his report >> to the local Green Discuss list while simultaneously submitting it to >> the >> state. Jim will also post it on the Wiki and circulating the URL to >> the Wiki. > > That was not MY strategy meeting. It was a Green Party event that I > organized. Tian constantly referred to it as "Jim's strategy meeting" > during last Thursday's meeting, along with his other snipes and > complaints. He makes these statements derogatorily, as is his habit to > complain about everything I do. I don't think we need his childish > comments enshrined in the meeting minutes. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Operating Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 From leedobell at aol.com Sun Feb 27 09:42:48 2011 From: leedobell at aol.com (Leedobell) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:42:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Earth Day at SJSU In-Reply-To: <4D696212.7010209@charter.net> References: <4D68A48D.9040605@sbcglobal.net><93062.55087.qm@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D696212.7010209@charter.net> Message-ID: <8CDA4BCE1DB1837-1C28-29A38@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> Let's be sure that we will be getting the new Green Focus as soon as it is available--especially if, as Wes said, it covers education and is target for students. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Rolley To: sosfbay-discuss Sent: Sat, Feb 26, 2011 12:27 pm Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Earth Day at SJSU On 2/26/2011 10:28 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: Okay, let's get busy organizing the lit, making new stuff, updating things. Is there a newer Green Focus? Let's all grab a clipboard and some registration forms and get out there and drum up some new Greens. 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