[GPSCC-chat] Amory Lovens at Stanford Monday May 2, 4:15

Gerry Gras gerrygras at earthlink.net
Mon May 2 12:12:58 PDT 2011


I'm glad to hear that Grantham and Roddy are concerned.
I wonder how many wealthy people are concerned.

If I recall correctly ...  In "Collapse" by Jared Diamond,
it said that in all cases where societies were in trouble,
whether they survived or not, the elite always thought
they would survive.

I expect to attend this event.

Gerry



Wes Rolley wrote:
>   This should be good.  I am on an email list from the Rocky Mountain
> Institute that Lovins heads and get much of what they send out.
>
> For those who don't yet get the importance of climate change... I ask
> you to read the following very long post at Climate Progress.
>
> http://climateprogress.org/2011/05/02/grantham-must-read-time-to-wake-up-days-of-abundant-resources-and-falling-prices-are-over-forever/
>
> The short summary is:
>> *The world is using up its natural resources at an alarming rate, and
>> this has caused a permanent shift in their value. We all need to
>> adjust our behavior to this new environment. It would help if we did
>> it quickly.*
>
> That is a clear message coming from the manager of one of the biggest
> hedge funds, Jeremy Grantham. Grantham backs this up with the numbers,
> clearly delineating the path we are currently on, one leading to our
> demise, the poor and those outside the halls of power going first... of
> course.
>
> Some of the comments are also worth reading. e.g Californian Mike Roddy
> (#1) says:
>>
>> I don’t really care about investment opportunities. There are dark
>> sides to commodity scarcity, in addition to increased poverty in
>> general. High prices will drive efforts to harvest heavy oil and deep
>> offshore deposits. We’re already seeing disregard of water quality in
>> reckless and politically enabled fracking for both gas and oil. Rising
>> timber prices will drive piracy and degradation of forests wherever
>> they may be, further driving global warming and ruining rainfall and
>> erosion patterns for agriculture.
>>
>> Politically, the fossil fuel companies will be the only sector of any
>> kind with unlimited cash, which unfortunately has already led to an
>> effective coup d’etat of the American government. It could get worse,
>> with the Democrats becoming fully purchased. All to enrich people like
>> David Koch, the Rockefeller family, and coal industry investors and
>> executives. The people are going to have to stand up to them, since
>> the media and what passes for our political leadership have gone over
>> to the dark side.
>>
>
>
> On 5/2/2011 11:15 AM, Brian Good wrote:
>>
>> He will talk about four strategies for transitioning energy usage
>> away from oil, coal, and nuclear energy by 2050.
>
>
>
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