[GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpsmc-d] Is It Immoral to Vote for Obama?

[Spencer Graves]

       During Obama's first two years, he had Democratic majorities in 
both the House and the Senate.  During that period, he expanded the war 
from Irak and Afghanistan into Pakistan.  He failed to close 
Guantanamo.  He continued and perhaps expanded the use of torture and 
extraordinary renditions.  His selected arch right wingers as economic 
advisers and happily used the economic crisis as an excuse for more 
welfare for the banks without any serious move towards reregulation or 
prosecuting those guilty of conspiring to commit fraud in encouraging 
thousands and probably millions of people to purger themselves on loan 
applications, then confiscating their homes in fraudulent ways when they 
didn't make their loan payments.


       You are correct that he did not have an army of people in the 
streets like Occupy Wall Street or the Bonus Army of 1932 and 1933 
actively pushing the Democrats to actually pass legislation.  Instead, 
they invented the need for a super majority in the Senate so they 
wouldn't have to be bothered at all with right wing filibusters.  This 
gave them an excuse to continue clandestinely serving the big money 
while complaining the "couldn't" pass legislation.  If the Occupy 
movement had started in 2008, the history of the past 3 years could have 
been different.


       Spencer


On 10/16/2011 3:34 PM, Paul Engstrom wrote:
> We need more discussions on electing better Congresspeople and 
> supporting progressive caucus in Congress.
> If Obama had a strong progressive congress he would very likely bend 
> to their power. He compromises to the strongest winds.
> More power to "occupy wall street movements" may their power and 
> education of everyone--, everywhere increase!!
>
> Paul
> Los Altos,CA
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:gerrygras at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>
>
>     Here's this article in Counterpunch, which apparently
>     was the original source:
>
>     http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/10/13/is-it-immoral-to-vote-for-obama/
>
>
>     And here is a followup article by the same author:
>
>     http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/10/14/bye-bye-barry/
>
>     Gerry
>
>
>
>     Arlen Comfort wrote:
>
>         I wish everyone could see this article.
>         Mike whitney is expressing some of my views.
>
>         - Arlen
>
>
>         *Is It Immoral to Vote for Obama?*
>         http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29409.htm
>         *By Mike Whitney*
>
>         October 15, 2011 "Information Clearing House
>         <http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/>" --I don't like mixing
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