From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Sep  1 18:21:27 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 18:21:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Upcoming 350.org events in the Bay Area
Message-ID: <1314926487.12518.YahooMailRC@web181011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

If anybody wants to go to the Commonwealth Club event please contact Caroline. I 
know where it is, I know how to get there, I know where to park, I'm willing to 
drive if somebody else will help pay the parking. I'm not going alone.



----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Anna Goldstein - 350.org <organizers at 350.org>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Sent: Thu, September 1, 2011 2:40:43 PM
Subject: Upcoming 350.org events in the Bay Area


Dear friends,
In the early part of September, 350.org co-founder and environmental author Bill 
McKibben will be visiting the Bay Area for a few days. We want to be sure that 
you have a chance to see him speak and meet him in person while he?s in town.
This will be an opportunity to hear about the large-scale civil disobedience 
that?s been taking place in front of the White House in protest of the proposed 
Keystone XL project (a tar sands crude oil pipeline that would run from Alberta, 
Canada through six Midwestern states to the Gulf of Mexico), and also to learn 
more about our upcoming global day of action, Moving Planet, on September 24.
Please take a moment to check out the details of Bill?s speaking events, listed 
below. There will be 350.org staff or volunteers on hand at each of them to make 
sure you?re able to plug in to the Bay Area Moving Planet event on 9/24.
We hope to see you there!
Many thanks,
Anna Goldstein, U.S. Campaigns Coordinator
________________________________

Location: The Commonwealth Club
Address: 595 Market Street, 2nd Floor San Francisco, CA 94105
Date: Thursday, September 8
Time: 11:30 a.m. check-in, noon program, 1 p.m. book signing
Cost: $20 standard, $12 members, $7 students (with valid ID)
Contact: (415) 597-6700 Fax: (415) 597-6729
Location: UC Berkeley, Sibley Auditorium, Bechtel Engineering Center
Address: Berkeley, CA 94709 ? see website for directions
Date: Thursday, September 8
Time: 6 p.m.
Cost: Free and open to the public
Contact: Lois Hoeffler, lhoeffler at berkeley.edu, 510-643-8860
Location: Chabot Space and Science Center
Address: 10000 Skyline Boulevard, Oakland, CA
Date: Friday, September 9
Time: 6 p.m. - 7:30 p.m.
Cost: $23 ($29 at the door, subject to availability)
Contact: 510-336-7300
Location: Mt. Diablo Peace and Justice Center
Address: Mt. Diablo Unitarian Universalist Church, 55 Eckley Lane, Walnut Creek, 
CA 94596
Date: Saturday, September 10
Time: 11 a.m.
Cost: $15 General, $12 Peace Center, MDUUC and Friendly Favors Members, and $5 
Students. No one will be turned away for lack of funds.
Contact: 925-933-7850 
________________________________
350.org is building a global grassroots movement to solve the climate crisis. 
Our online campaigns, grassroots organizing, and mass public actions are led 
from the bottom up by thousands of volunteer organizers in over 188 countries. 
You can join 350.org on Facebook by becoming a fan of our page at 
facebook.com/350org and follow us on twitter by visiting twitter.com/350. To 
join our list (maybe a friend forwarded you this e-mail) visit 
www.350.org/signup. To support our work, donate securely online at 
350.org/donate.

What is 350? 350 is the number that leading scientists say is the safe upper 
limit for carbon dioxide in our atmosphere. Scientists measure carbon dioxide in 
"parts per million" (ppm), so 350ppm is the number humanity needs to get below 
as soon as possible to avoid runaway climate change. To get there, we need a 
different kind of PPM?a "people powered movement" that is made of people like 
you in every corner of the planet. 

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Sep  1 18:54:36 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:54:36 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: GP movie night info for the website
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Hello, All:


       The Santa Clara Green Party web site has been updated with 
information about Friday, September 9, Green Party Movie Night featuring 
"No Impact Man".


       Note also the Move to Amend event, Monday, Sept. 12.


       Spencer Graves


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	GP movie night info for the website
Date: 	Thu, 1 Sep 2011 03:54:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: 	MKmusic03 at aol.com
To: 	spencer.graves at prodsyse.com



*/Hi Spencer,/*
*//*
*/Here is our movie night info for the website./*
*//*
*/Thanks,/*
*//*
*/Merriam/*
*//*
**
**
*Green Party Film Night: No Impact Man
*

**Friday, September 9 2011 @ 6:30 PM

San Jose Peace and Justice Center

48 S. 7th St.

San Jose

This month we support 350.org and all the environmental groups who will 
be celebrating Move the Planet, an international campaign for 
sustainability.

We will show the 2009 documentary, NO IMPACT MAN: Follow the 
Manhattan-based Beavan family as they abandon their high consumption 5th 
Avenue lifestyle and try to live a year while making no net 
environmental impact.

Refreshments at 6:30

Movie begins at 7:00 with a discussion following the movie.

$5 - $10 donation (no one turned away for lack of funds)

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Sep  1 23:38:27 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:38:27 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] ... arrests ending ?
In-Reply-To: <4E607963.5040102@earthlink.net>
References: <4E607963.5040102@earthlink.net>
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Number arrested now at 843.

I think today or tomorrow is the last day.

http://www.tarsandsaction.org/

What next?


Gerry




From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Sep  2 22:20:57 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:20:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Santa Clara Cty. Single Payer Healthcare Coalition
	Mtg. Sept. 8 at 7 p.m. See you there!
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----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
To: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Sent: Fri, September 2, 2011 9:18:43 PM
Subject: Santa Clara Cty. Single Payer Healthcare Coalition Mtg. Sept. 8 at 7 
p.m. See you there!


Hi, 

You are invited to the next meeting of the Santa Clara County Single Payer 
Health Care 

Coalition. We have been very busy!?? Outreach, events and plans for much more.
Please join us in building a mass movement for universal, comprehensive single 
payer
health care.? As Medicaid and Medicare, community clinics, children's health 
care...
..social security...are under severe threat, there has never been a more 
important time
?to get involved,? and fight back.? 
Remember Medicare is not the problem, it is the solution!? (Please pass on to 
new contacts)



Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition Meeting 


??????????????????????????????????? Agenda
?

??????????????????? New time: 7 p.m. Thursday, September 8 

????????????????????????? At the Low-Income Self-Help Center, 525 W. Alma, San 
Jose, CA 95125?




? 
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=525+W.+Alma,+San+Jose,+Ca+95125&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___US371&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x808e3345cbd54e0b:0x5c378add4fc42bd,525+W+Alma+Ave,+San+Jose,+CA+95125&gl=us&ei=n21gTpCUFoTiiALugtDTDg&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ8gEwAA?
 


Parking behind the building, turn at the ARCO station, then right again into the 
gated lot.? Call number below, if you need directions.

As always, your contribution of an item for the healthy snack table will be 
appreciated.


Welcome and introductions
?
	* Update current list of SB810 endorsers- Joan G-latest list attached
?
	* Info re Public Option on National level??Bob,? 
?
	* We have a Facebook Page!-? author, Joan S - suggestions
?
	* Upcoming Events/actions, strategies:?? 
?
1.? Planning for the October 21(probable date) San Jose kickoff event for the 
Campaign for a Healthy California, with James Haslem of the Vermont Workers 
Center, Donna Smith 


from National Nurses United, and others we want to include to? more 
quickly?build the SP movement here.? This is part of the statewide effort. ? 
Greg, Regional coordinator, State Committee
?
2.? Proposal - Participate in voter Registration efforts 

(major action item in the HCA Steering Cmte.'s?agenda?for SB810-esp. in minority 
community)-Joan S., Lynn


3. New date:.LISHC Community for Change's Speakout and Forum about the budget 
cuts, and how they are affecting 


us locally, particularly to healthcare:? (Oct. 9, Sunday 3 to 5 p.m.)? Panel 
consists of members of SCC Single Payer Coalition., LISHC,? CARA, Felix of 
Children?s Health Initiative and Family Resource Center, and possibly someone 
from Gardner Health.?? Inviting Beall, Lieber, Campos and Cortese to listen to 
folk's concerns.? Goal is that this will lead up to a dramatic, media catching 
action probably for Halloween
?
4.???? Upcoming Outreach ideas 
???????????-?Beall and Lofgren 9/17 SJ event: Preparing for Medicare in 2012 - 
September 17th, any one going?
??????????? -Vietnamese Mid-Autumn Festival Resource Fair Sat. 9/10 3-5PM
??????????? -Elaine Alquist Community Health Forum, Sat. October 1 9A-12:30PM, 
Mayfair Community Ctr.,San Jose?
?
5. Update on Family Resource Center issue- Joan S.
?
6.? Sally Lieber's campaign for Senate-solidly for Single Payer. Redistricting 
and how it affects the future of Single Payer in Calif. - Report from 9/7 talk
by Terry Christensen, SJ State Poli Sci Prof. about redistricting and 
possibility of having a 2/3 Dem. majority in the Senate. Lynn
?
?
	* Reports:? 
?
?- Dr. Quentin Young, founder of PNHP, and former doctor of Martin Luther King 
and his partner, doctor for Obama- Joan S., Lynn
?
?- CNA Rally 9/1 ? Greg and those who attended
?
- Leafleting at the Mime Troupe 9/1-those who went
?
- Did anyone attend townhalls with Honda or Lofgren?


Look forward to seeing you there,

Katherine Bock
The Low-Income Self-Help Center
525 W. Alma
San Jos?, CA 95125
(408) 599-4590 cell
phone (408) 977-1275 / fax (408) 977-1650
Co chair Santa Clara County Single Payer Health Care Coalition

Lynn Huidekoper, RN 
Co-Director
Health Care for All Californians-Silicon Valley Coalition 
Co-Chair , Santa Clara County Single Payer Coalition
Senator Mark Leno's Single Payer bill, SB810
John Conyer's Single Payer bill, HR 676
Menlo Park CA. 
650-322-9609 
http://www.healthcareforall.org
Health Care is a Human Right?
?
Sandy Perry, Co-Chair
CHAM(Community Homeless Alliance Ministry)
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Sat Sep  3 11:25:21 2011
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:25:21 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] =?utf-8?q?3D_Politics_-_Die_Gr=C3=BCnen?=
Message-ID: <8CE387DF963AF5F-C68-F48E@webmail-m053.sysops.aol.com>


 Dear Friends,

Amazing coincidence.  One day after I published my blog post on "3D Politics,"none other than the old gray New York Times finally,grugingly published a story about the German Greens. You can read the full textcross-posted on California Greening and leave acomment.  I am still trying to spark a serious discussion among independentprogressives about just what exactly makes us different from run-of-the-millso-called liberal Democrats.

Alex Walker
Los Angeles Greens

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Posted on California Greening
3D Politics - Die Gr?nen
By Alex Walker

The United States may be stuck on stupid with our ridiculous permanentpresidential campaign between so-called conservative Republicans andso-called liberal Democrats, but everywhere else Green Parties are on the move.The Alliance 90/The Greens party(B?ndnis 90/Die Gr?nen)in Germany is the world's strongest Green Party.Founded in 1980 and merging in 1993 with the civil rights movementB?ndnis 90 of the formerGerman Democratic Republic (a.k.a. East Germany), Greens have been representedin the German Bundestag for nearly thirty years.In our time of global crisis, even the old gray New York Times has at lastgrudgingly admitted that Greens are on the move in disparate countries likeAustralia, Brazil, Britain, Canada, Colombia, and Sweden.


Screen shot from a web site for the German Greens

I am reposting the article from the NYT because it is a perfectfollow-up to my earlier post on 3D politics.

Published in The New York Times, September 1, 2011
Greens Gain in Germany, and the World Takes Notice
By Nicholas Kulish


BERLIN ? A string of Green Party victories and strong electoralshowings across Germany, from the conservative south to the port citiesof the north, are helping to redefine politics among voters who areincreasingly losing faith in the more established parties.

The Green Party is poised to extend its march into the mainstream onSunday when voters go to the polls in the northeastern state ofMecklenburg-Western Pomerania. The Greens could, for the first time,win seats in the State Parliament and demonstrate their ability tosustain political momentum.

"Nothing in our political science books has prepared us for this kind of party,"said Josef Joffe, publisher of the weekly newspaper Die Zeit,who noted that the Greens have won the culture war on the left over the rustySocial Democrats on issues like gay rights and the integration of immigrants."I bet if you had a party like this in America,all my rich friends on both coasts would vote for it."
. . .

Read more and leave a comment at:

http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2011/09/3d-politics-die-grunen.html

 


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep  3 17:43:26 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:43:26 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] you tube on web site
Message-ID: <4E62C9AE.8070707@sbcglobal.net>

Here is an example of using you tube on a web site.
It is from the German Green Party so just look at the
pictures and do not worry about the language.

Concentrate on the concept.
It is something we could adapt to our web site.

*http://tinyurl.com/3tehfar*


From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Sat Sep  3 21:24:10 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:24:10 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] you tube on web site
In-Reply-To: <4E62C9AE.8070707@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4E62C9AE.8070707@sbcglobal.net>
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       The web address you gave contains 8 interviews on "The Green 
Sofa" with leading German Green politicians. (a)  The interviews average 
15 minutes, total 2 hours.


       I think we could benefit a lot from producing YouTube segments, 
but I don't know that we have enough high-profile Greens to find much of 
an audience for hours of 15-minute interviews.


       I think we might communicate more by saying less:  I'm gradually 
developing some experience in producing short videos, e.g., for YouTube, 
consisting of slide shows with narrative.  Then we can promote them via 
a presence on Twitter and maybe Facebook.  My first video was 2 minutes 
and has generated 280 views on YouTube since April 16.  ("Proposed: 
International Center For Monitoring Conflict Evolution", which some of 
you have seen.)  My second video will be 5 minutes (for my business).


       However, before we can do more with this, I think we should get 
our web site to support blogging from people who haven't spend half 
their lives with computers.


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


(a) There is a Wiki page for each of the 8 politicians interviewed;  
some but not all have both English and German language Wiki pages.


p.s.  The modern German Green party is a union of "Alliance 90" of 3 
East German non-communist parties with the earlier German Greens.


On 9/3/2011 5:43 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> Here is an example of using you tube on a web site.
> It is from the German Green Party so just look at the
> pictures and do not worry about the language.
>
> Concentrate on the concept.
> It is something we could adapt to our web site.
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/3tehfar*
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-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep  4 12:44:43 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:44:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] you tube on web site
Message-ID: <4E63D52B.8000706@sbcglobal.net>

Although I posted a link to a GREEN website that had you tube
videos of interviews with some of the german Green parlamentarians
I did not intend to imply that we should have lengthy videos from
prominent persons.

Those Greens are using you tube to deviver messages or reports
on activities.  We should too.

What I had in mind was short videos initially that were based on
some of our practiced one minute speeches.  Thus keeping it
within the doable realm of our available activists.

Jim Doyle




From cbrouillet at igc.org  Sun Sep  4 16:50:11 2011
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:50:11 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
Message-ID: <E1R0MS4-0005av-JJ@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our 
Future  - and the Tenth Annual 9/11 Truth 
Rally/Parade March on Sunday September 11, 2011 - 
Theme Satyagraha- The Power of Truth....

The annual 9/11 Truth Film Festival, benefit for 
the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance begins
  this Thursday, September 8th, 2011, 1 pm to 10 
pm at the Grand Lake Theater , 3200 Grand Ave. in Oakland
  and continues
on Sunday September 11th, 2011, 1 pm to 9:30 pm 
at the Herbst Theatre, 401 Van Ness Ave. in San Francisco

Speakers include-
director of Project Censored Mickey Huff,
president of the Media Freedom Foundation Peter Phillips,
sister of fallen firefighter David Weiss from 
Rescue One and founder of Unite in Peace Michele Little,
author of Mounting Evidence: Why We Need a New 
Investigation of 9/11 Dr. Paul Rea,
author of Earth into Property: Colonization, 
Decolonization, and Capitalism Prof. Anthony J. Hall,
author of Waking the Global Heart: Humanity's 
Rites of Passage From the Love of Power to the Power of Love Anodea Judith,
author of Building the Green Economy: Success 
Stories from the Grassroots Kevin Danaher,
author of World as Love, World as Self - Courage 
for Global Justice and Ecological Renewal Joanna Macy,
filmmakers Ken Jenkins and Brett Smith,
Ironworkers Local 377 member Mike Daly,
radio host of ?Community Currency?   Carol Brouillet,
music by The Away Team,
MC at the Grand Lake Theater- radio host Bonnie 
Faulkner from ?Guns and Butter,?
MC at the Herbst Theatre- comedianSherry 
Glaser-Love, the star and author of 
Off-Broadway?s longest-running one-woman show, ?Family Secrets.?

  In addition to the films-
  ?Psywar: The Real Battlefield Is the Mind,?
  ?You, Me & the SPP: Trading Democracy for Corporate Rule,?
  ?Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup,?
  ?Hypothesis: A Documentary about Prof. Stephen E. Jones,?
  and the premiere Sunday evening of- ?9/11: 
Explosive Evidence ? Experts Speak Out,?
  there will be live streaming from the Toronto Hearings
  and One the Event- Shifting from Fear to Love from Seattle

Full schedule and details at http://www.communitycurrency/filmfestival2011.html
Tickets $10 & $7 (for students, seniors, low income).
Facebook event at- 
<http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=269079389776199>http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=269079389776199 


In addition the 10th Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/March/Parade will begin
Sunday, September 11, 2011
at 10 am at the Gandhi Statue, near the Ferry Building in San Francisco
parading up Market Street to Halldie Plaza by 11 
am, and on to the Civic Center by noon.
With words, poetry, music, along the way. See 
details at 
<http://communitycurrency.org/10thanniversary.html>http://communitycurrency.org/10thanniversary.html 

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  4 22:03:19 2011
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:03:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
In-Reply-To: <E1R0MS4-0005av-JJ@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1R0MS4-0005av-JJ@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1315198999.39965.YahooMailNeo@web111102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

After reading material from both sides, I have come to believe that the twin towers could have come down at free fall speed without a demolition process.?The buildings are very fragile compared to the forces generated by even a small bump caused by the tops of the towers on their way down. However, that doesn't mean that 9/11 wasn't an inside job in some other way.? As an example, consider the reports of cell phone conversations and voicemails recorded allegedly from flight 93.? One of the 9/11 truth web sites claimed that someone had done a test to see if you could get a cell phone carried aloft in a Cesna aircraft at 200 mph and 8000 ft elevation to communicate with the ground. The test was a complete failure.? No communication was established with the ground during this test. This in my mind says that the claims of cell phone communications by passengers of flight 93 with places on the ground are false. Note that nowadays some jumbo jets have the
 capability to carry cell phone traffic while in the air, but this capability did not exist in 2001.? Good luck with your presentations Carol.? I will be out of town on both dates.
?
John Thielking

From: Carol Brouillet <cbrouillet at igc.org>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future


9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future? - and the Tenth Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/Parade March on Sunday September 11, 2011 - Theme Satyagraha- The Power of Truth....

The annual 9/11 Truth Film Festival, benefit for the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance begins
?thisThursday, September 8th, 2011, 1 pm to 10 pm at the Grand Lake Theater , 3200 Grand Ave. in Oakland
?and continues 
on Sunday September 11th, 2011, 1 pm to 9:30 pm at the Herbst Theatre, 401 Van Ness Ave. in San Francisco

Speakers include-
director of Project Censored Mickey Huff, 
president of the Media Freedom Foundation Peter Phillips, 
sister of fallen firefighter David Weiss from Rescue One and founder of Unite in Peace Michele Little, 
author of Mounting Evidence: Why We Need a New Investigation of 9/11 Dr. Paul Rea, 
author of Earth into Property: Colonization, Decolonization, and Capitalism Prof. Anthony J. Hall, 
author of Waking the Global Heart: Humanity's Rites of Passage From the Love of Power to the Power of Love Anodea Judith, 
author of Building the Green Economy: Success Stories from the Grassroots Kevin Danaher, 
author of World as Love, World as Self - Courage for Global Justice and Ecological Renewal Joanna Macy, 
filmmakers Ken Jenkins and Brett Smith, 
Ironworkers Local 377 member Mike Daly, 
radio host of ?Community Currency??? Carol Brouillet,
music byThe Away Team,
MC at the Grand Lake Theater- radio host Bonnie Faulkner from ?Guns and Butter,?
MC at the Herbst Theatre- comedianSherry Glaser-Love, the star and author of Off-Broadway?s longest-running one-woman show, ?Family Secrets.?

?In addition to the films-
??Psywar: The Real Battlefield Is the Mind,?
??You, Me & the SPP: Trading Democracy for Corporate Rule,?
??Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup,?
??Hypothesis: A Documentary about Prof. Stephen E. Jones,?
?and the premiere Sunday evening of- ?9/11: Explosive Evidence ? Experts Speak Out,?
?there will be live streaming from the Toronto Hearings
?and One the Event- Shifting from Fear to Love from Seattle

Full schedule and details at http://www.communitycurrency/filmfestival2011.html
Tickets $10 & $7 (for students, seniors, low income).
Facebook event at- http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=269079389776199 

In addition the 10th Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/March/Parade will begin 
Sunday, September 11, 2011
at 10 am at the Gandhi Statue, near the Ferry Building in San Francisco 
parading up Market Street to Halldie Plaza by 11 am, and on to the Civic Center bynoon.
With words, poetry, music, along the way. See details at http://communitycurrency.org/10thanniversary.html 

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Mon Sep  5 19:19:33 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:19:33 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] a page on our website we should update a lot.
 (Santa Clara County Green Party)
In-Reply-To: <4E55E4D9.8060308@aceweb.com>
References: <4E55E4D9.8060308@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4E658335.6080805@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:  I made most of the changes Tian recommended in his email of 
a couple of weeks ago (below), except that there are now rows in the 
table with no names.  Other suggestions welcomed.  Spencer


On 8/24/2011 10:59 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/volunteer.shtml
>
> Things that should change: Jody Embry, Adam Czech, Mike Fischetti, and
> Erik Kiehle should be deleted. The web weaver should become Spencer,
> unless he wants a different title. The other jobs should also go away,
> unless someone else wants to step up and put their name(s) on the line.
> It would be nice to have every volunteer that's doing something there.
> Maybe put Drew in charge of "facebook presence" or something. The idea
> is to leave no blank lines.


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Mon Sep  5 19:29:57 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:29:57 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for a link on
	http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/links.shtml
In-Reply-To: <4E55E17E.2080804@aceweb.com>
References: <4E55E17E.2080804@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4E6585A5.4020009@prodsyse.com>

Hi, Tian, et al.:  Requested change made.  Spencer


On 8/24/2011 10:45 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> Please add a link to my website:
>
> http://tian.greens.org
>
> If you have a link to Eric's website you should have one to mine.


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Mon Sep  5 19:43:39 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:43:39 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat]  Aug. 25 Green meeting (corrected one typo)
In-Reply-To: <1314292854.27838.YahooMailRC@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1314292854.27838.YahooMailRC@web81201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E6588DB.3050107@prodsyse.com>

Please reply to the list with any additions or corrections.  Thanks.  
Spencer


On 8/25/2011 10:20 AM, Caroline Yacoub wrote:
> August 25 Green Party Meeting Agenda
> 7:00-7:30 Eating, chatting, one-minute speeches, if any
> 7:30 Selection of facilitator, time keeper, vibes watcher, note taker, 
> agenda prepare for next meeting, one minute speakers
> 5 minutes


       Facilitator:  Warner


       Time keeper:  Merriam


       Vibes watcher:  Fred


       Note taker:  Spencer


       Agenda for next meeting:  Drew


       One minute speakers:

> 7:35 Introductions, announcements, agenda adjustments and additions
> 10 minutes


       Warner Blumberg, Caroline Yacoub, Merriam Kathaleen, Fred 
Duperault, Drew Johnson, Gerry Gras, Spencer Graves, Mather White, Jim 
Stauffer


Warner:  In September, October or November, we will need to discuss 
delegates for the plenary, first weekend in December.

> 7:45 Treasurer's report and hat passing (Jim Doyle)
> 5 minutes


Caroline (from Jim Doyle):  $2,899 (less than last month because we had 
to pay rent to SJ Peace Center)

> 7:50 Green Tea Party in Vallejo. Anyone going? Ride sharing? (Warner)
> 2 minutes


       Event this coming Saturday.  no one volunteered to provide 
transport.

> 7:52  Look at local redistricting maps to see about possible 
> candidates (Warner)
> 10 minutes


       Merriam and Drew will contact people who might run for some 
office to see if they might run.


       Cupertino is fighting with Lehigh Cement company.  Cupertino made 
the road by there into a private road.  Many people in Cupertino are 
angry about this.  This presents an opportunity for the Greens.  Merriam 
will bring more information about this for the next meeting.  There is 
also an issue that the County Supervisors are not all up for election 
next year.



       Jim Stauffer:  There may be an opportunity to lobby for 
proportional representation in the City of Santa Clara.  Steve Chessin, 
Pres. of Californians for Electoral Reform.  Valerie lives in Santa Clara.


       Drew:  Ray Tobey, San Mateo Green, is a very good campaign 
manager for candidates for lower level offices.

> 8:02 Electoral politics (Jim Doyle)
> 5 minutes
> 8:07  Campaign finance reform (Jim Doyle -- couldn't attend;  agenda 
> item postponed)
> 5 minutes
> 8:12 Fair and equitable taxation (Jim Doyle)
> 5 minutes
> 8:17 Speakers series. Activists under 25. (Jim Doyle)
> 10 minutes


       Merriam:  A group "Transform" could come in Sept.  Merriam will ask.


> 8:27 Update outreach literature (Jim Doyle)
> 10 minutes


       Gerry:  Do we have enough literature to get us through the next 6 
weeks?  If no, we need to do something.  Doyle will try to get 100 
copies of the new GPUS paper.


       Warner had the Green Party Printer but it currently does not 
work.  Drew will ask Brian about this.

> 8:37 Move To Amend Event (Gerry Gras)
> 15 minutes


       David Cobb, 2004 Green Party Presidential Candidate, will speak 
in Palo Alto, Monday, Sept. 12 about the "Move to Amend".  Gerry, 
Caroline, Merriam and Fred are organizing.  Can use other help.  Drew 
will table.  Spencer will help with security, in case someone tries to 
be disruptive.


       Gerry will ask if there had been disruption at earlier events.


       Warner will not attend, because he has a conflict.  Warner does 
not understand why Cobb does not yet have draft language for the amendment.


       S. Clara County Greens agreed to endorse the Move to Amend.  
Gerry will notify Move to Amend of our decision.

> 8:52 What happened at the Gathering in Ventura last weekend?
> 5 minutes


       Drew attended.  There were about 50 attendees, self selected.  
People wrote their concerns on cards.  The issues that got the most 
attention had to do with improving the effectiveness of tabling, etc.


       One contentious issue related to LA County.  Apart from that, it 
was generally a positive and collaborative time.


       Kendra Gonzales, Ventura County, was the key notetaker.  Further 
questions / comments can be directed to her.  There will be a written 
summary published at some time.  After that, we can put it on the agenda 
for discussion at our meeting.

> 8:57 Cleaning up the Green voter list preparatory to doing a mailing.  
> (Caroline)
> 10 minutes


       Caroline and Merriam has done some work to try to contact people 
from the list obtained from the Registrar of Voters.  Caroline says that 
roughly half have either moved or are no longer Green.  The County 
charges ~$700 for a new list.  We need to ask Jim what our options are 
for getting a free list or a list with at a relatively low charge.


       Can someone ask Marnie Glickman for information on new names she 
has obtained?  Spencer will send Marnie's email to Merriam and Caroline.

> 9:07


Movie night:  Friday, Sept. 9:  Subject:  350.org = climate change, 
environment, ... .  Looking for a movie on Green entrepreneurs.  6:30 
refreshments.  Movie at 7 PM.   The current issue of Yes Magazine 
(yesmagazine.org) has info on Green entrepreneurs.  Caroline and Merriam 
would like suggestions for movies.  also:  bravenewfilms.org.


The "-news" list is for one-way announcements is for people who want to 
know about announcements but not chatter.

>
>
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751 Emerson Ct.
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Sep  6 01:22:27 2011
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 01:22:27 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] a page on our website we should update a lot.
 (SantaClara County Green Party)
In-Reply-To: <4E658335.6080805@prodsyse.com>
References: <4E55E4D9.8060308@aceweb.com> <4E658335.6080805@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <4E65D843.5010301@aceweb.com>

I think we should put people on that page as they step forward to be or 
do something. Like every regular at the meetings should have an excuse 
to be on that page. I'm not sure jobs that nobody's doing need to be listed.

Tian

Spencer Graves wrote:
> Hello, All:  I made most of the changes Tian recommended in his email of 
> a couple of weeks ago (below), except that there are now rows in the 
> table with no names.  Other suggestions welcomed.  Spencer
> 
> 
> On 8/24/2011 10:59 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
>> http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/volunteer.shtml
>>
>> Things that should change: Jody Embry, Adam Czech, Mike Fischetti, and
>> Erik Kiehle should be deleted. The web weaver should become Spencer,
>> unless he wants a different title. The other jobs should also go away,
>> unless someone else wants to step up and put their name(s) on the line.
>> It would be nice to have every volunteer that's doing something there.
>> Maybe put Drew in charge of "facebook presence" or something. The idea
>> is to leave no blank lines.
> 
> 

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: words and pictures from and about Bike Party's ride.
The screw I got mile 81 of BTL is now on an American Samoa quarter.


From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Sep  6 05:25:29 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 05:25:29 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] a page on our website we should update a lot.
 (SantaClara County Green Party)
In-Reply-To: <4E65D843.5010301@aceweb.com>
References: <4E55E4D9.8060308@aceweb.com> <4E658335.6080805@prodsyse.com>
	<4E65D843.5010301@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <4E661139.2040104@prodsyse.com>

Hi, Tian, et al.:


       Perhaps this should be an agenda item for a future meeting?  I'm 
happy doing what people want, but I hesitate to make too many changes 
without group input.  (I'm happy to make the changes that other people 
want, but I don't want to take the time to create ideas about what 
should or should not be there, and I'm not eager to take the lead in 
organizing the discussions.)


       Spencer


On 9/6/2011 1:22 AM, Tian Harter wrote:
> I think we should put people on that page as they step forward to be 
> or do something. Like every regular at the meetings should have an 
> excuse to be on that page. I'm not sure jobs that nobody's doing need 
> to be listed.
>
> Tian
>
> Spencer Graves wrote:
>> Hello, All:  I made most of the changes Tian recommended in his email 
>> of a couple of weeks ago (below), except that there are now rows in 
>> the table with no names.  Other suggestions welcomed.  Spencer
>>
>>
>> On 8/24/2011 10:59 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
>>> http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/volunteer.shtml
>>>
>>> Things that should change: Jody Embry, Adam Czech, Mike Fischetti, and
>>> Erik Kiehle should be deleted. The web weaver should become Spencer,
>>> unless he wants a different title. The other jobs should also go away,
>>> unless someone else wants to step up and put their name(s) on the line.
>>> It would be nice to have every volunteer that's doing something there.
>>> Maybe put Drew in charge of "facebook presence" or something. The idea
>>> is to leave no blank lines.
>>
>>
>


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  6 13:20:21 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:20:21 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] green energy news
Message-ID: <4E668085.1040904@sbcglobal.net>

This is from
http://www.juancole.com/


    Top Ten Good News Green Energy Stories
    <http://www.juancole.com/2011/09/top-ten-good-news-green-energy-stories.html>

Posted on 09/06/2011 by Juan

Here are the week?s top ten energy good news stories.

1. A Japanese technical innovation has the potential to double or triple 
<http://www.geekosystem.com/japanese-wind-power/>
the power generated by wind turbines.

2. Germany now gets over 20% of its energy from low-carbon sources: 
<http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/0,1518,783173,00.html>
6.5% wind, 5.6% biomass, 3.5% solar, 3.3% hydro and 0.8% other.

3. Over 100 companies are researching wave energy 
<http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/next-wave-of-energy-from-the-sea/1>, 
which will likely provide
180 gigawatts of power by 2050. It takes the world?s 440 nuclear power
reactors to produce 376 GWe at the moment, so this would be equivalent
to building 220 new nuclear plants.

4. Global wind power installation rebounded in the first half of 2011, 
<http://www.wwindea.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=317&Itemid=43> 
growing 18%
more than in the same period in 2010. By the end of 2011, wind will 
account for 3%
of the world?s energy, but that percentage is rapidly growing.

5. The European Union is cooperating with Egypt to make the latter 
country a solar and wind 
<http://www.wwindea.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=316&Itemid=40> 

powerhouse. I was told by Egyptian activists in July of this year that 
the Mubarak government
had given renewables short shrift because of Saudi Arabian pressure.

6. Europe gets 5.5% of its energy from wind turbines, but for individual 
member states the amount can be much greater. 
<http://www.evwind.es/noticias.php?id_not=13223> Denmark gets a quarter 
of its electricity from wind power, while substantial wind power
producers include Portugal and Germany.

7. The Japanese political political establishment has decided to throw 
<http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideOpinion.htm?f=2011/september/5/alvincapino.isx&d=2011/september/5> 

a lot of money at renewable energy. The so-called feed-in tariff 
<http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201109010284.html> will spur
growth so much that Japan?s solar energy production will like grow by
a factor of 5 in the short term.

8. The good news is that new and more efficient solar panels are daily 
coming on line 
<http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-05/darwin-effect-cuts-photovoltaic-panel-prices-abound-solar-says.html>. 

The bad news is that Solyndria was done in by this development to some 
extent.
The real meaning of the failure of Solyndria last week is that there 
were better and
more efficient competitors, not that solar energy doesn?t pay or that 
the US has gone
in for it too fast.

9. China?s wind energy market is booming 
<http://www.2point6billion.com/news/2011/09/05/china-leads-the-way-in-h1-wind-energy-development-india-catching-up-10095.html>, 
with the Asian giant having added over
8 gigawatts in wind energy capacity in the first half of 2011. China 
constitutes 43%
of the world market for wind turbines, and its demand is rising quickly.

10. The ?Light Middle East? exhibit in Dubai 
<http://www.ameinfo.com/274124.html> will underline Middle Eastern building
techniques that minimize the use of energy. Muslim architects have for 
centuries been
masters at using courtyards and fountains to cool buildings naturally.

.






From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Sep  6 16:35:57 2011
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:35:57 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] =?utf-8?q?Die_Gr=C3=BCnen_--_Update?=
Message-ID: <8CE3B04DCF0A2D5-F64-5FE3C@webmail-d096.sysops.aol.com>

Dear Friends,

See below breaking news about another big win byB?ndnis 90/Die Gr?nen --the German Greens

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Posted on California Greening
3D Politics - Die Gr?nen
By Alex Walker

UPDATE: GERMAN GREENS GAIN IN ANOTHER STATE ELECTION  Parties on the German left prevailed in a regional electionin the northeastern state of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania on Sunday...Perhaps the biggest winner of the day was the Green Party,which won 8.5 percent of the vote, more than double the 3.4 percentit received in 2006.See ("State Election Adds to Gains by Social Democrats in Germany",The New York Times, September 4, 2011). . .

Read more and leave a comment at:

http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2011/09/3d-politics-die-grunen.html

Personal Note:As I write this, the Los Angeles County Greens (sigh) are embroiled in what is,frankly, yet another silly name-calling internal dispute. What is this?"Operation Cointelpro: The Sequel" -- a cheap late summer popcorn movie? As far as Iam concerned, any man or woman willing to re-register Green and publicly declarethemselves foursquare for the 4 Pillars and 10 Key Values of the Green Party indefiance of our idiotic One-Corporate-Party-With-Two-Names system is a hero.

I love you all, so, get over it!

Alex Walker
Los Angeles Greens
 
 


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Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:02:32 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Learn About Community Solar on 9/13
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Sep  6 20:00:53 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:00:53 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Move To Amend, Mon-Tue, Sept. 12-13
Message-ID: <4E66DE65.80303@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


       In addition to the Move to Amend meeting next Monday evenining in 
Palo Alto, there will also be one Tuesday, 11:30 - 1:30 at the First 
Unitarian Church in San Jose;  our web site now mentions both.  In 
addition to the primary presentation by David Cobb, there will also be a 
short presentation in San Jose by Richard Hobbs on the Democracy 
Convention that just took place in Madison, Wisconsin and a discussion 
of forming a Move To Amend chapter in Santa Clara County.


       If you are interested in supporting more Move to Amend activities 
here, you will want to contact Richard Hobbs (whose email is with the 
Tuesday announcement on the web).


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer
p.s.  Thanks to Gerry Grass who recently gave me info on the Tuesday event.


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  6 20:29:30 2011
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 20:29:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Move To Amend, Mon-Tue, Sept. 12-13
In-Reply-To: <4E66DE65.80303@prodsyse.com>
References: <4E66DE65.80303@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <1315366170.70320.YahooMailNeo@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

So, what is the url for the announcement?


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Move To Amend, Mon-Tue, Sept. 12-13

Hello, All:


? ? ? In addition to the Move to Amend meeting next Monday evenining in Palo Alto, there will also be one Tuesday, 11:30 - 1:30 at the First Unitarian Church in San Jose;? our web site now mentions both.? In addition to the primary presentation by David Cobb, there will also be a short presentation in San Jose by Richard Hobbs on the Democracy Convention that just took place in Madison, Wisconsin and a discussion of forming a Move To Amend chapter in Santa Clara County.


? ? ? If you are interested in supporting more Move to Amend activities here, you will want to contact Richard Hobbs (whose email is with the Tuesday announcement on the web).


? ? ? Best Wishes,
? ? ? Spencer
p.s.? Thanks to Gerry Grass who recently gave me info on the Tuesday event.


-- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:? 408-655-4567
web:? www.structuremonitoring.com

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Sep  6 22:14:35 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:14:35 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Move To Amend, Mon-Tue, Sept. 12-13
In-Reply-To: <1315366170.70320.YahooMailNeo@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <4E66DE65.80303@prodsyse.com>
	<1315366170.70320.YahooMailNeo@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E66FDBB.3060600@prodsyse.com>

http://www.cagreens.org/sclara/ -> click "Mon. & Tues., Sept. 12 & 13, 
2011:  Move to Amend".  Then click either "Move to Amend" or "David Cobb 
on Move to Amend &
Richard Hobbs on the recent Democracy Convention in Madison, WI" for 
Monday or Tuesday, respectively.  Sorry if I wasn't clear.  Spencer


On 9/6/2011 8:29 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> So, what is the url for the announcement?
>
> *From:* Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
> *To:* GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2011 8:00 PM
> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] Move To Amend, Mon-Tue, Sept. 12-13
>
> Hello, All:
>
>
>       In addition to the Move to Amend meeting next Monday evenining 
> in Palo Alto, there will also be one Tuesday, 11:30 - 1:30 at the 
> First Unitarian Church in San Jose;  our web site now mentions both.  
> In addition to the primary presentation by David Cobb, there will also 
> be a short presentation in San Jose by Richard Hobbs on the Democracy 
> Convention that just took place in Madison, Wisconsin and a discussion 
> of forming a Move To Amend chapter in Santa Clara County.
>
>
>       If you are interested in supporting more Move to Amend 
> activities here, you will want to contact Richard Hobbs (whose email 
> is with the Tuesday announcement on the web).
>
>
>       Best Wishes,
>       Spencer
> p.s.  Thanks to Gerry Grass who recently gave me info on the Tuesday 
> event.
>
>
> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
> President and Chief Technology Officer
> Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
> 751 Emerson Ct.
> San Jos?, CA 95126
> ph:  408-655-4567
> web:  www.structuremonitoring.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org <mailto:sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>
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>
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-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  7 15:20:08 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 15:20:08 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Bill McKibben in SF tomorrow!
In-Reply-To: <20c4-4be-4e5ffbe3@list.350.org>
References: <20c4-4be-4e5ffbe3@list.350.org>
Message-ID: <4E67EE18.60507@earthlink.net>


Long story short, I have 3 extra tickets to the
Commonwealth Club event.  If anyone wants one, please
let me know today.

And Caroline has 4 spare seats in her car, if you
get to Fred Duperrault's by 10:30 AM.  His address
is 500 E. Middlefield, #45, Mountain View.

(I expect to be away from my computer from about
3:30 PM to about 10:30 PM.)

Gerry


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Upcoming 350.org events in the Bay Area
Date: 	Thu, 01 Sep 2011 21:40:51 +0000
From: 	Anna Goldstein - 350.org <organizers at 350.org>
Reply-To: 	organizers at 350.org
To: 	Mr. Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>



Dear friends,

In the early part of September, 350.org co-founder and environmental
author Bill McKibben will be visiting the Bay Area for a few days. We
want to be sure that you have a chance to see him speak and meet him in
person while he?s in town.

This will be an opportunity to hear about the large-scale civil
disobedience <http://act.350.org/go/52?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=1> that?s
been taking place in front of the White House in protest of the proposed
Keystone XL project (a tar sands crude oil pipeline that would run from
Alberta, Canada through six Midwestern states to the Gulf of Mexico),
and also to learn more about our upcoming global day of action, Moving
Planet <http://act.350.org/go/78?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=2>, on
September 24.

Please take a moment to check out the details of Bill?s speaking events,
listed below. There will be 350.org staff or volunteers on hand at each
of them to make sure you?re able to plug in to the Bay Area Moving
Planet <http://act.350.org/go/299?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=3> event on 9/24.

We hope to see you there!

Many thanks,

Anna Goldstein, U.S. Campaigns Coordinator

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*Location:* The Commonwealth Club
<http://act.350.org/go/295?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=4>
*Address:* 595 Market Street, 2nd Floor San Francisco, CA 94105
*Date:* Thursday, September 8
*Time:* 11:30 a.m. check-in, *noon program*, 1 p.m. book signing
*Cost:* $20 standard, $12 members, $7 students (with valid ID)
*Contact:* (415) 597-6700 Fax: (415) 597-6729

*Location:* UC Berkeley
<http://act.350.org/go/296?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=5>, Sibley
Auditorium, Bechtel Engineering Center
*Address:* Berkeley, CA 94709 ? see website
<http://act.350.org/go/296?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=6> for directions
*Date:* Thursday, September 8
*Time:* 6 p.m.
*Cost:* Free and open to the public
*Contact:* Lois Hoeffler, lhoeffler at berkeley.edu, 510-643-8860

*Location:* Chabot Space and Science Center
<http://act.350.org/go/297?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=7>
*Address:* 10000 Skyline Boulevard, Oakland, CA
*Date:* Friday, September 9
*Time:* 6 p.m. - 7:30 p.m.
*Cost:* $23 ($29 at the door, subject to availability)
*Contact:* 510-336-7300

*Location:* Mt. Diablo Peace and Justice Center
<http://act.350.org/go/298?akid=1214.8388.UUzM5e&t=8>
*Address:* Mt. Diablo Unitarian Universalist Church, 55 Eckley Lane,
Walnut Creek, CA 94596
*Date:* Saturday, September 10
*Time:* 11 a.m.
*Cost:* $15 General, $12 Peace Center, MDUUC and Friendly Favors
Members, and $5 Students. No one will be turned away for lack of funds.
*Contact:* 925-933-7850

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crisis.* Our online campaigns, grassroots organizing, and mass public
actions are led from the bottom up by thousands of volunteer organizers
in over 188 countries. You can join 350.org on Facebook by becoming a
fan of our page at facebook.com/350org <http://facebook.com/350org >and
follow us on twitter by visiting twitter.com/350
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  7 23:46:31 2011
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:46:31 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
In-Reply-To: <1315198999.39965.YahooMailNeo@web111102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <E1R0MS4-0005av-JJ@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<1315198999.39965.YahooMailNeo@web111102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY165-W41241BB4E48B01F6C1C9369E1E0@phx.gbl>







   There's a lot of confusion about the speed with which the towers came down, and most of it emanates
from the official sources and the debunkers.  The lead investigator for NIST's $20 million study, Dr. Shyam
Sunder, told NOVA in 2006 that the towers came down in 9 seconds and 11 seconds, which would be free 
fall.  This comports with NIST's 2005 report (Section 6.14.4 of NCSTAR 1) that says "the building section 
above came down essentially in free fall,
as seen in videos."  


   In August 2006 NIST issued a FAQ statement saying that they had measured the time for debris 
freefalling outside the building structure, finding it struck the ground in 9 seconds and 11 seconds.  
I have looked for evidence of such a study and I can not find it in the NIST report.  "Debunkers" seize on
this statement in the FAQs and try to deny that Dr. Sunder told NOVA what he said, and that the NIST report
says what it says, claiming they were talking about the external debris.  

  The Section 6.14.4 statement in context is clearly referring not to external debris, but to the upper section
of the building falling through the undamaged lower structure:  "Since
the stories below the level of collapse 
initiation provided little
resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building
mass, the building 
section above came down essentially in free fall, as
seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed,
the falling
mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below,
which were unable to arrest 
the moving mass.?

   Dr. Sunder's statement is clearly about the buildings, not falling debris.

   David Chandler, a high school physics teacher, has studied the collapse videos frame by frame and finds
that the acceleration involved was 2/3 that of a gravitational collapse, not pure freefall.  Even 2/3 freefall
is quite astounding, since by the 1st Law of Thermodynamics, the potential energy of the elevated mass 
of the towers converted to kinetic energy of falling debris must not only do the work of bringing the debris 
to earth but also squishing, bending, and breaking the steel structure, and pulverizing the 180,000 tons of 
concrete floors.  NIST has never bothered to supply an energetic analysis of the collapse.

  Mr. Chandler's studies have shown, as acknowledged in NIST's final report, that Building 7 did come 
down at freefall in the first 100 feet.   NIST tells us freefall means there is no supporting structure at all.
For WTC7 to fall vertically in near-perfect symmetry at freefall means all support had to be removed
simultaneously.
















 

Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:03:19 -0700
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com
To: cbrouillet at igc.org; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future

After reading material from both sides, I have come to believe that the twin towers could have come down at free fall speed without a demolition process. The buildings are very fragile compared to the forces generated by even a small bump caused by the tops of the towers on their way down. However, that doesn't mean that 9/11 wasn't an inside job in some other way.  As an example, consider the reports of cell phone conversations and voicemails recorded allegedly from flight 93.  One of the 9/11 truth web sites claimed that someone had done a test to see if you could get a cell phone carried aloft in a Cesna aircraft at 200 mph and 8000 ft elevation to communicate with the ground. The test was a complete failure.  No communication
 was established with the ground during this test. This in my mind says that the claims of cell phone communications by passengers of flight 93 with places on the ground are false. Note that nowadays some jumbo jets have the capability to carry cell phone traffic while in the air, but this capability did not exist in 2001.  Good luck with your presentations Carol.  I will be out of town on both dates.
 
John Thielking




From: Carol Brouillet <cbrouillet at igc.org>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:50 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future


9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future  - and the Tenth Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/Parade March on Sunday September 11, 2011 - Theme Satyagraha- The Power of Truth....

The annual 9/11 Truth Film Festival, benefit for the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance begins
 this Thursday, September 8th, 2011, 1 pm to 10 pm at the Grand Lake Theater , 3200 Grand Ave. in Oakland
 and continues 
on Sunday September 11th, 2011, 1 pm to 9:30 pm at the Herbst Theatre, 401 Van Ness Ave. in San Francisco

Speakers include-
director of Project Censored Mickey Huff, 
president of the Media Freedom Foundation Peter Phillips, 
sister of fallen firefighter David Weiss from Rescue One and founder of Unite in Peace Michele Little, 
author of Mounting Evidence: Why We Need a New Investigation of 9/11 Dr. Paul Rea,
 
author of Earth into Property: Colonization, Decolonization, and Capitalism Prof. Anthony J. Hall, 
author of Waking the Global Heart: Humanity's Rites of Passage From the Love of Power to the Power of Love Anodea Judith, 
author of Building the Green Economy: Success Stories from the Grassroots Kevin Danaher, 
author of World as Love, World as Self - Courage for Global Justice and Ecological Renewal Joanna Macy, 
filmmakers Ken Jenkins and Brett Smith, 
Ironworkers Local 377 member Mike Daly, 
radio host of ?Community Currency?   Carol Brouillet,
music by The Away Team,
MC at the Grand Lake Theater- radio host Bonnie Faulkner from ?Guns and Butter,?
MC at the Herbst Theatre- comedianSherry Glaser-Love, the star and author of Off-Broadway?s longest-running one-woman show, ?Family
 Secrets.?

 In addition to the films-
 ?Psywar: The Real Battlefield Is the Mind,?
 ?You, Me & the SPP: Trading Democracy for Corporate Rule,?
 ?Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup,?
 ?Hypothesis: A Documentary about Prof. Stephen E. Jones,?
 and the premiere Sunday evening of- ?9/11: Explosive Evidence ? Experts Speak Out,?
 there will be live streaming from the Toronto Hearings
 and One the Event- Shifting from Fear to Love from Seattle

Full schedule and details at http://www.communitycurrency/filmfestival2011.html
Tickets $10 & $7 (for students, seniors, low income).
Facebook event at- http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=269079389776199
 

In addition the 10th Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/March/Parade will begin 
Sunday, September 11, 2011
at 10 am at the Gandhi Statue, near the Ferry Building in San Francisco 
parading up Market Street to Halldie Plaza by 11 am, and on to the Civic Center by noon.
With words, poetry, music, along the way. See details at http://communitycurrency.org/10thanniversary.html 

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Sep  8 02:48:42 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:48:42 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W41241BB4E48B01F6C1C9369E1E0@phx.gbl>
References: <E1R0MS4-0005av-JJ@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<1315198999.39965.YahooMailNeo@web111102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY165-W41241BB4E48B01F6C1C9369E1E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E688F7A.4090302@prodsyse.com>

Hi, Brian:  Thanks for this.  According to Wikipedia ("World Trade 
Center"), several surrounding buildings were damaged by debris.  To me, 
this raises questions about the claims that the buildings fell straight 
down like a controlled demolition unless the collateral damage was done 
from debris from the impact and / or a relatively small portion of the 
mass of the 3 buildings that collapsed fell outside their footprint.  
What do you know about this?  Thanks, Spencer


On 9/7/2011 11:46 PM, Brian Good wrote:
>
>    There's a lot of confusion about the speed with which the towers 
> came down, and most of it emanates
> from the official sources and the debunkers.  The lead investigator 
> for NIST's $20 million study, Dr. Shyam
> Sunder, told NOVA in 2006 that the towers came down in 9 seconds and 
> 11 seconds, which would be free
> fall.  This comports with NIST's 2005 report (Section 6.14.4 of NCSTAR 
> 1) that says "the building section
> above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos."
>
>    In August 2006 NIST issued a FAQ statement saying that they had 
> measured the time for debris
> freefalling outside the building structure, finding it struck the 
> ground in 9 seconds and 11 seconds.
> I have looked for evidence of such a study and I can not find it in 
> the NIST report.  "Debunkers" seize on
> this statement in the FAQs and try to deny that Dr. Sunder told NOVA 
> what he said, and that the NIST report
> says what it says, claiming they were talking about the external debris.
>
>   The Section 6.14.4 statement in context is clearly referring not to 
> external debris, but to the upper section
> of the building falling through the undamaged lower structure: /"Since 
> the stories below the level of collapse
> initiation provided little resistance to the tremendous energy 
> released by the falling building mass, the building
> section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. 
> As the stories below sequentially failed,
> the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the 
> floors below, which were unable to arrest
> the moving mass."//
> /
>    Dr. Sunder's statement is clearly about the buildings, not falling 
> debris.
>
>    David Chandler, a high school physics teacher, has studied the 
> collapse videos frame by frame and finds
> that the acceleration involved was 2/3 that of a gravitational 
> collapse, not pure freefall.  Even 2/3 freefall
> is quite astounding, since by the 1st Law of Thermodynamics, the 
> potential energy of the elevated mass
> of the towers converted to kinetic energy of falling debris must not 
> only do the work of bringing the debris
> to earth but also squishing, bending, and breaking the steel 
> structure, and pulverizing the 180,000 tons of
> concrete floors.  NIST has never bothered to supply an energetic 
> analysis of the collapse.
>
>   Mr. Chandler's studies have shown, as acknowledged in NIST's final 
> report, that Building 7 did come
> down at freefall in the first 100 feet.   NIST tells us freefall means 
> there is no supporting structure at all.
> For WTC7 to fall vertically in near-perfect symmetry at freefall means 
> all support had to be removed
> simultaneously.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:03:19 -0700
> From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com
> To: cbrouillet at igc.org; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
>
> After reading material from both sides, I have come to believe that 
> the twin towers could have come down at free fall speed without a 
> demolition process. The buildings are very fragile compared to the 
> forces generated by even a small bump caused by the tops of the towers 
> on their way down. However, that doesn't mean that 9/11 wasn't an 
> inside job in some other way.  As an example, consider the reports of 
> cell phone conversations and voicemails recorded allegedly from flight 
> 93.  One of the 9/11 truth web sites claimed that someone had done a 
> test to see if you could get a cell phone carried aloft in a Cesna 
> aircraft at 200 mph and 8000 ft elevation to communicate with the 
> ground. The test was a complete failure.  No communication was 
> established with the ground during this test. This in my mind says 
> that the claims of cell phone communications by passengers of flight 
> 93 with places on the ground are false. Note that nowadays some jumbo 
> jets have the capability to carry cell phone traffic while in the air, 
> but this capability did not exist in 2001.  Good luck with your 
> presentations Carol.  I will be out of town on both dates.
> John Thielking
>
> *From:* Carol Brouillet <cbrouillet at igc.org>
> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:50 PM
> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
>
> *9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future*  - and the *Tenth 
> Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/Parade March *on *Sunday September 11, 2011 *- 
> Theme Satyagraha- The Power of Truth....
>
> The annual 9/11 Truth Film Festival, benefit for the Northern 
> California 9/11 Truth Alliance begins
>  this*Thursday, September 8th, 2011, 1 pm to 10 pm* at the *Grand Lake 
> Theater *, 3200 Grand Ave. in Oakland
>  and continues
> on *Sunday September 11th, 2011, 1 pm to 9:30 pm *at the *Herbst 
> Theatre*, 401 Van Ness Ave. in San Francisco
>
> Speakers include-
> director of Project Censored *Mickey Huff*,
> president of the Media Freedom Foundation *Peter Phillips*,
> sister of fallen firefighter David Weiss from Rescue One and founder 
> of Unite in Peace *Michele Little*,
> author of /Mounting Evidence: Why We Need a New Investigation of 9/11/ 
> *Dr. Paul Rea*,
> author of /Earth into Property: Colonization, Decolonization, and 
> Capitalism/ *Prof. Anthony J. Hall*,
> author of /Waking the Global Heart: Humanity's Rites of Passage From 
> the Love of Power to the Power of Love /*Anodea Judith*,
> author of /Building the Green Economy: Success Stories from the 
> Grassroots/ *Kevin Danaher*,
> author of /World as Love, World as Self - Courage for Global Justice 
> and Ecological Renewal/ *Joanna Macy*,
> filmmakers *Ken Jenkins* and *Brett Smith*,
> Ironworkers Local 377 member *Mike Daly,
> *radio host of "Community Currency" *Carol Brouillet,
> *music by*The Away Team*,
> MC at the Grand Lake Theater- radio host *Bonnie Faulkner *from "Guns 
> and Butter,"
> MC at the Herbst Theatre- comedian*Sherry Glaser-Love,* the star and 
> author of Off-Broadway's longest-running one-woman show, "Family Secrets."
>
>  In addition to the films-
>  "Psywar: The Real Battlefield Is the Mind,"
>  "You, Me & the SPP: Trading Democracy for Corporate Rule,"
>  "Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup,"
>  "Hypothesis: A Documentary about Prof. Stephen E. Jones,"
>  and the premiere Sunday evening of- "9/11: Explosive Evidence ? 
> Experts Speak Out,"
>  there will be live streaming from the *Toronto Hearings
> * and *One the Event- Shifting from Fear to Love *from Seattle
>
> Full schedule and details at 
> http://www.communitycurrency/filmfestival2011.html
> Tickets $10 & $7 (for students, seniors, low income).
> Facebook event at- http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=269079389776199
>
> In addition the *10th Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/March/Parade* will begin
> *Sunday, September 11, 2011
> *at *10 am* at the Gandhi Statue, near the Ferry Building in San 
> Francisco
> parading up Market Street to Halldie Plaza by *11 am,* and on to the 
> Civic Center by*noon.
> *With words, poetry, music, along the way. See details at 
> http://communitycurrency.org/10thanniversary.html
>
> _______________________________________________
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Thu Sep  8 12:36:22 2011
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:36:22 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 3D Politics - Why Dem-GOP 'Moderate' Greens Will Fail
Message-ID: <8CE3C75B999A9E4-B40-13537@web-mmc-d07.sysops.aol.com>


 Dear Green Friends, 

The New York Times is at it again.  Today they published an Op-Ed piece by Gernot Wagner grimly warning that while our "action bias" makes us feel good about "doing something" about the environment in small individual gestures, at the end of the day "the planet" will hardly notice.  I cross-posted the commentary to my blog on California Greening. Please read and leave a comment.  (C'mon, I know some of y'all believe in that "feel good" small gestures stuff.  Go ahead! Start an argument with me!) 


Alex Walker
Los Angeles Greens

= = = = = = = = = = = 
Posted on California Greening, September 8, 2011
3D Politics - Why Dem-GOP 'Moderate' Greens Will Fail
by Alex Walker 

Why register Green? Why leave the Republican and Democratic houses of our fathers? Why not nudge good Republicans and Democrats to "Go Green?" The short answer is the old parties are hung up on old debates between so-called conservatives "on the Right" and so-called liberals "on the Left." to "Go Green" for them is, at best, an afterthought pasted onto their primary one-dimensional pantomime.

See below an Op-Ed by Gernot Wagner grimly warning that while our "action bias" makes us feel good about "doing something" about the environment in small individual gestures, at the end of the day "the planet" will hardly notice.

Published in The New York Times, September 7, 2011
Going Green but Getting Nowhere
By Gernot Wagner


YOU reduce, reuse and recycle. You turn down plastic and paper. You avoid out-of-season grapes. You do all the right things.

Good.

Just know that it won?t save the tuna, protect the rain forest or stop global warming. The changes necessary are so large and profound that they are beyond the reach of individual action.

You refuse the plastic bag at the register, believing this one gesture somehow makes a difference, and then carry your takeout meal back to your car for a carbon-emitting trip home.

Say you?re willing to make real sacrifices. Sell your car. Forsake your air-conditioner in the summer, turn down the heat in the winter. Try to become no-impact man. You would, in fact, have no impact on the planet. Americans would continue to emit an average of 20 tons of carbon dioxide a year; Europeans, about 10 tons.

. . .



Read More and Leave a Comment at:
http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2011/09/3d-politics-why-dem-gop-moderate-greens.html

This article has also been cross-posted on Greenchange.org:
http://network.greenchange.org/news/39836-3d-politics-why-dem-gop-moderate-greens-will-fail





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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Sep  8 22:55:00 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:55:00 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Move to Amend Events in Bay Area
Message-ID: <4E69AA34.9050105@earthlink.net>


I think there is old and new info here ...

There are three Move to Amend events in the
Bay Area in the next few days.

Sunday  9/11, 7-9 PM Oakland:
http://movetoamend.org/events/oakland-ca-move-amend-california-tour

Monday  9/12, 7-9 PM Palo Alto:
http://movetoamend.org/events/palo-alto-move-amend-california-tour

Tuesday 9/13. 11:30-1:30 San Jose:
http://movetoamend.org/events/san-jose-ca-move-amend-california-tour

Gerry



From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Sep  9 00:12:27 2011
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 00:12:27 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future
In-Reply-To: <4E688F7A.4090302@prodsyse.com>
References: <E1R0MS4-0005av-JJ@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<1315198999.39965.YahooMailNeo@web111102.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY165-W41241BB4E48B01F6C1C9369E1E0@phx.gbl>,
	<4E688F7A.4090302@prodsyse.com>
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Hi Spencer,

   Yes, many of the neighboring buildings were damaged by flying debris.  The Deutsche Bank/Banker's Trust building 
south across Liberty Street from the south tower had a huge gash ripped down its front and was abandoned and 
ultimately torn down.  The World Financial Center (WFC) across West Street had a multi-ton steel component 
embedded in its wall, and perimeter column elements fell on the WFC Winter Garden as much as 550 feet away 
from the tower's footprint.  Steel debris also punched holes in the Verizon Building north across Vesey Street, and
apparently some hit World Trade Center 7 as well.  David Chandler, a high school physics instructor has done a 
frame-by-frame analysis of one of the videos and concludes that one steel structural component was hurled 
horizontally at velocities exceeding 70 mph.  Mr. Chandler believes these velocities reflect explosive expulsion 
from the building.  I'm reserving judgment on that, myself.

   Much of the debris from the towers fell outside the footprint.  I don't know if anyone has tried to quantify it.  
It is unfortunate that the crime scene was scrubbed with no effort to map the site.  Every steel assembly was
marked with a stamped ID number (to ensure that it was installed in the right place) and so a map of what
piece landed where would have been very useful in evaluating various collapse theories.  According to the 
official piledriver theory of Dr. Bazant, debris from the top "block" should have been all together at the top of
the debris pile.  More widely scattered top debris would suggest a different collapse mechanism.  The 
official lead investigator, Shyam Sunder, told NOVA that the site was scrubbed because of the need for search
and rescue operations.  This was a blatant lie.  Rescue operations were terminated after a week, while the
scoop-and-dump evidence scrubbing went on for months over the protests of family members, firefighters,
and engineers who wanted a scientific study of the rubble.  The cleanup was so careless that the intact
body of a man in a business suit was found in the rubble at Fresh Kills landfill across the river. 

   Debris from 47-story WTC7 did not range as far, but pretty much confined itself to a tidy pile that extended
across the streets from WTC7's footprint.  The collapse did tear off some of the stone cladding from the 
neighboring Verizon Building, and damaged Fiterman Hall of the Borough of Manhattan Community College.
The damage does not appear to be severe, but the building was eventually torn down.  If Wikipedia can be
believed it stood until 2009 before it was torn down.

  I think we need new investigations of what happened at Ground Zero because the official reports are incomplete.
Though NIST was charged with explaining why and how the buildings came down, they terminated their 
analysis at the moment of collapse initiation, which allowed them to dodge the most baffling aspects of the
buildings' demise:  the collapses' symmetry, speed, and totality; the pulverization of 180,000 tons of concrete 
floors; the molten steel found in the rubble pile; and the collapse of the lower core, which had survived the initial
collapse of the outer floors.

  I also think the reports are dishonest.  Their initial estimates of airplane damage ranged from 1 core column
severed to 6 severed.  When their moderate estimate of 3 failed to generate a collapse in their computer models, 
they assumed the worst case scenario, and tweaked the input parameters to maximize damage to the core.  They
threw out empirical studies of truss behavior under heating when the results were not dramatic enough for them.
They failed to follow up on FEMA's call for further study of "evaporated" steel, and went so far as to claim that the
evaporated sample did not exist.  Their answer to questions admits that they terminated their computer model 
at collapse initiation because after that their models failed to converge.  Does that mean what I think it means?
That every time they ran their model it generated a chaotic asymmetrical and possibly partial collapse as the laws 
of physics would predict? 

  In the Building 7 report Mr. Chandler forced them to admit that the structure came down at freefall acceleration 
for a period of 2.25 seconds.  NIST's Dr. Sunder had already stated that freefall means there was no structural 
support at all.  The near-perfect symmetry of the collapse requires that all the supporting structure be removed
simultaneously.

  The video I recommended a week or so ago has now achieved over 300,000 views, and the viewing rate is
increasing.  Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth now has 1500 architects and engineers calling for new 
investigations--50 of them structural engineers, and 40 of them high rise architects.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw








  






  
 

 


Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 02:48:42 -0700
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com
To: snug.bug at hotmail.com
CC: pagesincolor at yahoo.com; cbrouillet at igc.org; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future


  


    
  
  
    Hi, Brian:  Thanks for this.  According to Wikipedia ("World Trade
    Center"), several surrounding buildings were damaged by debris.  To
    me, this raises questions about the claims that the buildings fell
    straight down like a controlled demolition unless the collateral
    damage was done from debris from the impact and / or a relatively
    small portion of the mass of the 3 buildings that collapsed fell
    outside their footprint.  What do you know about this?  Thanks,
    Spencer 

    

    

    On 9/7/2011 11:46 PM, Brian Good wrote:
    
      
      
        
        

             There's a lot of confusion about the speed with
            which the towers came down, and most of it emanates

          from the official sources and the debunkers.  The
            lead investigator for NIST's $20 million study, Dr. Shyam

          Sunder, told NOVA in 2006 that the towers came down
            in 9 seconds and 11 seconds, which would be free 

          fall.  This comports with NIST's 2005 report
            (Section 6.14.4 of NCSTAR 1) that says "the building section
          

          above came down essentially in free fall,
              as seen in videos."  
              

              

                 In August 2006 NIST issued a FAQ
            statement saying that they had measured the time for debris
          

          freefalling outside the building structure, finding
            it struck the ground in 9 seconds and 11 seconds.  

          I have looked for evidence of such a study and I
            can not find it in the NIST report.  "Debunkers" seize on

          this statement in the FAQs and try to deny that Dr.
            Sunder told NOVA what he said, and that the NIST report

          says what it says, claiming they were talking about
            the external debris.  

          

            The Section 6.14.4 statement in context is
            clearly referring not to external debris, but to the upper
            section

          of the building falling through the undamaged lower
            structure:  "Since
              the stories below the level of collapse 

              initiation provided little
              resistance to the tremendous energy released by the
              falling building
              mass, the building 

              section above came down essentially in free fall, as
              seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed,

              the falling
              mass increased, further increasing the demand on the
              floors below,
              which were unable to arrest 

              the moving mass.?

              

             Dr. Sunder's statement is clearly about the
            buildings, not falling debris.

          

             David Chandler, a high school physics teacher,
            has studied the collapse videos frame by frame and finds

          that the acceleration involved was 2/3 that of a
            gravitational collapse, not pure freefall.  Even 2/3
            freefall

          is quite astounding, since by the 1st Law of
            Thermodynamics, the potential energy of the elevated mass 

          of the towers converted to kinetic energy of
            falling debris must not only do the work of bringing the
            debris 

          to earth but also squishing, bending, and breaking
            the steel structure, and pulverizing the 180,000 tons of 

          concrete floors.  NIST has never bothered to supply
            an energetic analysis of the collapse.

          

            Mr. Chandler's studies have shown, as
            acknowledged in NIST's final report, that Building 7 did
            come 

          down at freefall in the first 100 feet.   NIST
            tells us freefall means there is no supporting structure at
            all.

          For WTC7 to fall vertically in near-perfect
            symmetry at freefall means all support had to be removed

          simultaneously.

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

          

           

          

          
            Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:03:19 -0700

            From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com

            To: cbrouillet at igc.org; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org

            Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth,
            Reclaiming Our Future

            

            
              After
                  reading material from both sides, I have come to
                  believe that the twin towers could have come down at
                  free fall speed without a demolition process. The
                  buildings are very fragile compared to the forces
                  generated by even a small bump caused by the tops of
                  the towers on their way down. However, that doesn't
                  mean that 9/11 wasn't an inside job in some other
                  way.  As an example, consider the reports of cell
                  phone conversations and voicemails recorded allegedly
                  from flight 93.  One of the 9/11 truth web sites
                  claimed that someone had done a test to see if you
                  could get a cell phone carried aloft in a Cesna
                  aircraft at 200 mph and 8000 ft elevation to
                  communicate with the ground. The test was a complete
                  failure.  No communication was established with the
                  ground during this test. This in my mind says that the
                  claims of cell phone communications by passengers of
                  flight 93 with places on the ground are false. Note
                  that nowadays some jumbo jets have the capability to
                  carry cell phone traffic while in the air, but this
                  capability did not exist in 2001.  Good luck with your
                  presentations Carol.  I will be out of town on both
                  dates.
               
              John
                  Thielking
              

              
              
                
                    From:
                    Carol Brouillet <cbrouillet at igc.org>

                    To:
                    sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org

                    Sent:
                    Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:50 PM

                    Subject:
                    [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Reclaiming the Truth, Reclaiming
                    Our Future

                  

                  9/11 Reclaiming the
                      Truth, Reclaiming Our Future  - and the Tenth
                      Annual 9/11 Truth Rally/Parade March on Sunday
                      September 11, 2011 - Theme Satyagraha- The
                    Power of Truth....

                    

                    The annual 9/11 Truth Film Festival, benefit for the
                    Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance begins

                     this Thursday, September 8th, 2011, 1 pm to 10
                      pm at the Grand Lake Theater , 3200
                    Grand Ave. in Oakland

                     and continues 

                    on Sunday September 11th, 2011, 1 pm to 9:30 pm
                    at the Herbst Theatre, 401 Van Ness Ave.
                    in San Francisco

                    

                    Speakers include-

                    director of Project Censored Mickey Huff, 

                    president of the Media Freedom Foundation Peter
                      Phillips, 

                    sister of fallen firefighter David Weiss from Rescue
                    One and founder of Unite in Peace Michele Little,
                    

                    author of Mounting Evidence: Why We Need a New
                      Investigation of 9/11 Dr. Paul Rea, 

                    author of Earth into Property: Colonization,
                      Decolonization, and Capitalism Prof.
                      Anthony J. Hall, 

                    author of Waking the Global Heart: Humanity's
                      Rites of Passage From the Love of Power to the
                      Power of Love Anodea Judith, 

                    author of Building the Green Economy: Success
                      Stories from the Grassroots Kevin Danaher,
                    

                    author of World as Love, World as Self - Courage
                      for Global Justice and Ecological Renewal Joanna
                      Macy, 

                    filmmakers Ken Jenkins and Brett Smith,
                    

                    Ironworkers Local 377 member Mike Daly, 

                    radio host of ?Community Currency?   Carol
                      Brouillet,

                    music by The Away Team,

                    MC at the Grand Lake Theater- radio host Bonnie
                      Faulkner from ?Guns and Butter,?

                    MC at the Herbst Theatre- comedianSherry
                      Glaser-Love, the star and author of
                    Off-Broadway?s longest-running one-woman show,
                    ?Family Secrets.?

                    

                     In addition to the films-

                     ?Psywar: The Real Battlefield Is the Mind,?

                     ?You, Me & the SPP: Trading Democracy for
                    Corporate Rule,?

                     ?Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup,?

                     ?Hypothesis: A Documentary about Prof. Stephen E.
                    Jones,?

                     and the premiere Sunday evening of- ?9/11:
                    Explosive Evidence ? Experts Speak Out,?

                     there will be live streaming from the Toronto
                      Hearings

                     and One the Event- Shifting from Fear to
                      Love from Seattle

                    

                    Full schedule and details at http://www.communitycurrency/filmfestival2011.html

                    Tickets $10 & $7 (for students, seniors, low
                    income).

                    Facebook event at- http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=269079389776199
                    

                    

                    In addition the 10th Annual 9/11 Truth
                      Rally/March/Parade will begin 

                    Sunday, September 11, 2011

                    at 10 am at the Gandhi Statue, near the
                    Ferry Building in San Francisco 

                    parading up Market Street to Halldie Plaza by 11
                      am, and on to the Civic Center by noon.

                    With words, poetry, music, along the way. See
                    details at http://communitycurrency.org/10thanniversary.html
                    

                  
                  

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751 Emerson Ct.
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Sep  9 13:52:08 2011
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:52:08 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] [Fwd: New Transition Handbook book group starting]
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I did a previous transition handbook work group and it was great!

If you want to learn more about the way the English look at
peak oil this is a wonderful book group experience to join.

Tian
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Sep  9 14:15:50 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
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Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: RELEASE: NY Greens denounce Dept. of Enviro.
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Sent: Fri, September 9, 2011 6:54:25 AM
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In a message dated 9/8/2011 12:34:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
scottmclarty at yahoo.com writes:
>
>GREEN PARTY OF NEW YORK STATE
> 
>http://www.gpny.org/
>
>
>Media release
>
>September 8, 2011
>
>
>Contact:
>
>Howie Hawkins, chair at gpny.org, 315-425-1019
>
>Peter LaVenia, chair2 at gpny.org, 518-495-8001
>
>
>
>Green Party of New York Denounces DEC Report, Calls for Ban on Hydrofracking
>
>
>
>The Green Party of New York State is outraged in the latest Department of 
>Environmental Conservation (DEC) release on hydrofracking and calls for a total 
>ban on the practice.
>
>
>The DEC's report makes it clear that the state's primary focus is clearing the 
>way for the petro-chemical industry to reap enormous profits, cloaked in the 
>language of the potential economic benefit to workers.
>
>
>While the DEC claims its "number one priority is to protect the state's drinking 
>water and environment in concert with exploring options to safely and 
>efficiently extract the state's natural gas," there is no way to safely protect 
>drinking water and frack for natural gas. This report greases the skids for 
>hydrofracking to start as soon as possible in New York. This is a terrible blow 
>against the environment and the communities in the Marcellus Shale region, which 
>will be negatively impacted by the damage done to their water supply, land, and 
>the natural beauty of that area. It does nothing to lead us to a post-fossil 
>fuel future and towards renewables in this era where we are on the tipping point 
>of catastrophic climate change; fracking and natural gas are a bridge to 
>nowhere, not economic prosperity.
>
>
>"It doesn't matter how long the SGEIS is, it isn't regulation: it's a study," 
>said Mike Bernhard, GPNYS upstate Fracking Coordinator, referring to the 
>Supplementary Generic Environmental Impact Study, to which a socio-economic 
>impact study was appended today. "The original 1992 GEIS on gas and oil mining 
>was never codified as law or regulation, but the DEC issued permits nonetheless. 
>It is state policy to begin issuing permits as soon as the comment period on the 
>current study ends, without first codifying regulations."
>
>
>"If the state intended the Department of Environmental Conservation to conserve 
>the environment, it wouldn't have preempted municipalities from controlling 
>drilling," notes Cecile Lawrence, GP candidate for Tioga County legislature. "It 
>wouldn't have gifted Gascorp with the Compulsory Integration law that allows 
>drillers to horizontally drill unleased land. And it wouldn't have kept quiet 
>when tens of thousands of leases ? with no environmental or landowner 
>protectiions ? were being signed. The SGEIS won't change those facts."
>
>
>"And it doesn't matter how complete or otherwise the study is," said Howie 
>Hawkins, party co-chair. "Its content, and the public reaction to it, is largely 
>invisible and irrelevant: It is simply a political football that Andrew Cuomo 
>has to carry across the finish line, so that his corporate clients can begin to 
>drill the Marcellus shale." 
>
>
>
>"The Green Party of New York State is opposed to the fracking process, and calls 
>for and supports a total ban. Greens from around the state have been actively 
>involved from the beginning in resisting and fighting the gas and oil industry, 
>promoting the Avella/Colton ban legislation and educating the public about this 
>very ungreen process," said Hawkins. "Further fossil-fuel development ? with its 
>demands for new and dangerous infrastructure ? will starve conservation-led 
>approachees to a renewable energy future of the capital and intelligence they 
>need now," concluded Hawkins.
>
>
>? Videoclips of Presentations at Green Party's 2011 Annual National Meeting in 
>Alfred, NY, archived on the Green Party's Livestream Channel, including 
>discussion of hydrofracking: http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus
>
>? GreenStream Live showw on hydrofracking, April 13, 2011: 
>http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus/video?clipId=pla_0e3da0c2-3fe4-41ad-9a8b-30cb5b0a1bf3
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 10 09:13:34 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:13:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] UK GP leader interview
Message-ID: <4E6B8CAE.5090603@earthlink.net>


FYI,

 From the UK:

"Caroline Lucas: 'The odds of serious Green influence are extremely high'"

"Andrew Sparrow speaks to the Green party leader about economic growth, 
proportional representation and Greenham Common"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/09/caroline-lucas-interview-andrew-sparrow

Gerry



From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Sat Sep 10 09:41:15 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:41:15 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] UK GP leader interview
In-Reply-To: <4E6B8CAE.5090603@earthlink.net>
References: <4E6B8CAE.5090603@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4E6B932B.5060508@prodsyse.com>

       I don't agree with her first statement, "It was a mistake to make 
growth an economic objective", but I accept her subsequent comments:  
"Growth is a side issue. The end goal is about prosperity in terms of 
greater wellbeing, in terms of greater equality, in terms of having a 
cleaner environment, in terms of having more security for your kids in 
the future."


       In my judgment, the primary constraints on economic growth in 
poorer countries (which she mentioned) is US support for state terror 
internationally, which has increased dramatically under the rubric of 
the war on terror:  If the US stops supporting the agents of state 
terror internationally and works to make the world safe for peaceful 
assembly, the poor people of the world will be better able to control 
the corruption in their governments that keeps them poor.  (See Chomsky, 
2006, Failed States, Owl Books, p. 149 and elsewhere where he cites 
Thomas Carothers, "who identifies his stand as neo-Reagonite", who found 
a "puzzling consistency -- commonly called "inconsistency" that the US 
opposed democracy except when it also supported US international 
business interests;  Carothers, 2004, Critical Mission, Carnegie 
Endowment for International Peace.)


       I think we can make economic growth a priority in the US in part 
by internalizing externalities into the price the consumer sees:  If the 
consumer has to pay substantially more for products made by more 
polluting technologies, products made by greener technologies will be 
more price competitive.  Doing this would use the market mechanism work 
to improve the environment (Wikipedia, "Free-market environmentalism").  
One example would be adding the cost of the war in Iraq to the price of 
gasoline at the pump.


       Spencer


On 9/10/2011 9:13 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> FYI,
>
> From the UK:
>
> "Caroline Lucas: 'The odds of serious Green influence are extremely 
> high'"
>
> "Andrew Sparrow speaks to the Green party leader about economic 
> growth, proportional representation and Greenham Common"
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/sep/09/caroline-lucas-interview-andrew-sparrow 
>
>
> Gerry
>
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Tue Sep 13 08:48:40 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Ready for Reality?
Message-ID: <1315928920.88056.YahooMailRC@web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>





----- Forwarded Message ----
From: May Boeve - 350.org <organizers at 350.org>
To: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Sent: Mon, September 12, 2011 12:38:05 PM
Subject: Ready for Reality?


Dear friends,
Have you been noticing the weather getting wilder where you live, and in the 
news around the world?
Well, we wanted to share with you an exciting global event from our partners 
that will help connect the dots between the wild weather we?re seeing, climate 
change, and why it's so important we push the planet beyond fossil fuels.
The event is called 24 Hours of Reality?-- it?s happening THIS WEDNESDAY, Sep 
14th, and it will be a 24-hour worldwide marathon all about the reality of the 
climate crisis. Around the world, from New York City to South Africa to the 
Solomon Islands, people will use the power of the Internet to present their 
stories of living with climate change, and make clear the connection between 
extreme weather and the corporate carbon pollution that's changing our climate.
All the presentations, which will be in multiple languages, and in every single 
time zone, will be streamed live at ClimateRealityProject.org.
Check out the video below:

24 Hours of Reality is being spearheaded by Vice President Al Gore, one of the 
first champions to explain that 350 is the most important number on the planet.
Many of us within the 350 movement already get the basic science and reality of 
climate change -- yet we sometimes struggle with getting our friends to really 
grasp the urgency. This event is a great opportunity to help your friends see 
why you care so much (plus, you can always pick up a new communication tip or 
two).
I'll be calling up my friends to gather around my laptop, with some nearby 
snacks -- and you can invite folks too. There are also a bunch of public viewing 
events you can check out.
The timing of 24 Hours of Reality couldn't be more perfect -- it's just 10 days 
before Moving Planet, the global day of bike rallies and on-the-ground events to 
call for climate action. It's that one-two kick of awareness and activism that's 
got me really excited.
At the end of many of the Climate Reality Presentations there will be a plug for 
joining Moving Planet actions -- so we can all move together from knowledge to 
action.
We hope you?ll be watching Wednesday too!
Onwards,
May Boeve, for the 350.org team
PS: This event isn't just an opportunity to strengthen the movement -- it's a 
tool to help us grow it. Click here to get the word out on Facebook and Twitter. 

________________________________
350.org is building a global grassroots movement to solve the climate crisis. 
Our online campaigns, grassroots organizing, and mass public actions are led 
from the bottom up by thousands of volunteer organizers in over 188 countries. 
You can join 350.org on Facebook by becoming a fan of our page at 
facebook.com/350org and follow us on twitter by visiting twitter.com/350. To 
join our list (maybe a friend forwarded you this e-mail) visit 
www.350.org/signup. To support our work, donate securely online at 
350.org/donate.

What is 350? 350 is the number that leading scientists say is the safe upper 
limit for carbon dioxide in our atmosphere. Scientists measure carbon dioxide in 
"parts per million" (ppm), so 350ppm is the number humanity needs to get below 
as soon as possible to avoid runaway climate change. To get there, we need a 
different kind of PPM?a "people powered movement" that is made of people like 
you in every corner of the planet. 

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 14 11:26:01 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:26:01 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Ready for Reality?
In-Reply-To: <1315928920.88056.YahooMailRC@web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1315928920.88056.YahooMailRC@web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E70F1B9.4020102@earthlink.net>


If I have not made an arithmetic error, this event
begins at 5PM Pacific Time, (today).

Gerry


Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> *From:* May Boeve - 350.org <organizers at 350.org>
> *To:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
> *Sent:* Mon, September 12, 2011 12:38:05 PM
> *Subject:* Ready for Reality?
>
> Dear friends,
>
> *Have you been noticing the weather getting wilder where you live, and
> in the news around the world?*
>
> Well, we wanted to share with you an exciting global event from our
> partners that will help connect the dots between the wild weather we?re
> seeing, climate change, and why it's so important we push the planet
> beyond fossil fuels.
>
> *The event is called 24 Hours of Reality
> <http://act.350.org/go/352?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=1> -- it?s
> happening THIS WEDNESDAY, Sep 14th, and it will be a 24-hour worldwide
> marathon all about the reality of the climate crisis.* Around the world,
> from New York City to South Africa to the Solomon Islands, people will
> use the power of the Internet to present their stories of living with
> climate change, and make clear the connection between extreme weather
> and the corporate carbon pollution that's changing our climate.
>
> All the presentations, which will be in multiple languages, and in every
> single time zone, will be *streamed live* at ClimateRealityProject.org
> <http://act.350.org/go/352?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=2>.
>
> Check out the video below:
> <http://act.350.org/go/359?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=3>
>
> /24 Hours of Reality is being spearheaded by Vice President Al Gore, one
> of the first champions to explain that 350 is the most important number
> on the planet./
>
> Many of us within the 350 movement already get the basic science and
> reality of climate change -- yet we sometimes struggle with getting our
> friends to really grasp the urgency. This event is a great opportunity
> to help your friends see why you care so much (plus, you can always pick
> up a new communication tip or two).
>
> I'll be calling up my friends to gather around my laptop, with some
> nearby snacks -- and you can invite folks too. There are also a bunch of
> public viewing events
> <http://act.350.org/go/354?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=4> you can check out.
>
> *The timing of 24 Hours of Reality
> <http://act.350.org/go/352?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=5> couldn't be more
> perfect -- it's just 10 days before Moving Planet
> <http://act.350.org/go/59?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=6>, the global day
> of bike rallies and on-the-ground events to call for climate action.
> It's that one-two kick of awareness and activism that's got me really
> excited.*
>
> At the end of many of the Climate Reality Presentations there will be a
> plug for joining Moving Planet actions -- so we can all move together
> from knowledge to action.
>
> We hope you?ll be watching Wednesday too!
>
> Onwards,
>
> May Boeve, for the 350.org
> <http://act.350.org/go/19?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=7> team
>
> PS: This event isn't just an opportunity to strengthen the movement --
> it's a tool to help us grow it. Click here to get the word out on
> Facebook <http://act.350.org/go/355?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=8> and
> Twitter <http://act.350.org/go/357?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=9>.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *350.org is building a global grassroots movement to solve the climate
> crisis.* Our online campaigns, grassroots organizing, and mass public
> actions are led from the bottom up by thousands of volunteer organizers
> in over 188 countries. You can join 350.org on Facebook by becoming a
> fan of our page at facebook.com/350org <http://facebook.com/350org>and
> follow us on twitter by visiting twitter.com/350
> <http://twitter.com/350>. To join our list (maybe a friend forwarded you
> this e-mail) visit www.350.org/signup <http://www.350.org/signup>. To
> support our work, donate securely online at 350.org/donate
> <http://350.org/donate>.
> *
> What is 350? *350 is the number that leading scientists say is the safe
> upper limit for carbon dioxide in our atmosphere. Scientists measure
> carbon dioxide in "parts per million" (ppm), so 350ppm is the number
> humanity needs to get below as soon as possible to avoid runaway climate
> change. To get there, we need a different kind of PPM?a "people powered
> movement" that is made of people like you in every corner of the planet.
>
> --
> You can unsubscribe from this mailing list at any time.
> <http://act.350.org/cms/unsubscribe/unsubscribe/?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=1>
>
>
>
>
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 14 14:43:29 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:43:29 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] tabling oportunity
Message-ID: <4E712001.6080003@sbcglobal.net>

Saturday September 24-th after the Moving Planet Day
at the San Jose Peace Center.

It is their 25-th birthday party.


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 14 21:15:19 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:15:19 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] scramble for africa(n oil)
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Foreign policy in focus posted this article
http://www.fpif.org/articles/the_new_scramble_for_africa


    The New Scramble for Africa

By Conn Hallinan <http://www.fpif.org/about/columnists#Conn+Hallinan>, 
September 14, 2011

Is current U.S. foreign policy in Africa following a blueprint drawn up
almost eight years ago by the Heritage Foundation 
<http://www.rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Heritage_Foundation>?

Visit the link for the author's answer and analysis.




From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 15 01:22:37 2011
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:22:37 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Urgent Action: Stop the execution of an innocent man
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1109141503360.13676@symsyspg.Stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1109141503360.13676@symsyspg.Stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <BAY165-W28B05BCF22D99582E3A91E9E070@phx.gbl>



My first alert to this came from a lunatic jew-hater so I was ignoring it.

It's Amnesty Int'l and ACLU.  Please take two minutes and help conserve the 
life of a man who might be innocent.





Peninsula Peace and Justice Center
www.PeaceandJustice.org 
Urgent Action Alert
 
Don't Let Georgia Execute an Innocent Man:
Execution of Troy Davis Set for One Week from Today
 
Sign Letters to Georgia Authorities Right Now
 
Background:  The State of Georgia plans to execute Troy Davis at midnight on September 21, even though he is almost certainly innocent.
 
We can't afford to execute people who might be innocent ? let alone people who probably are.
 
The last chance for remedy of this egregious injustice is an appeal for clemency to the Georgia Pardons and Parole Board. Clemency in Davis' case does not mean setting him free but instead converting his death sentence to life in prison without parole ? that way, if his verdict is ever reversed at least he will be alive to see it.Davis has been scheduled for execution three times before, and three times his execution has been stayed amid doubts and new evidence against other suspects. Davis was sentenced on the basis of witness testimony, but seven of nine original witnesses have since recanted or changed their testimony.
 
Action #1:  The ACLU and Amnesty International are both circulating sign-on letters to the Georgia Board of Pardons and Parole and other Georgia authorities.  Please sign on to either or both of these letters.  If you can take a moment to personalize the letter -- even a little bit -- it will have an even greater impact.  But please sign ...
 
Click here to sign the ACLU lettter: 
http://e2ma.net/go/7199803574/208669591/224661035/1407765/goto:http://bit.ly/pGodJe
 
Click here to sign the Amnesty International letter:
http://e2ma.net/go/7199803574/208669591/224661036/1407765/goto:http://bit.ly/poKoU9
 
Action #2:  Share this alert with your friends.  Use the icons at the top of the message to quickly email it to others or post to Facebook, LinkedIn, or Twitter.  Spread the word! Help save an innocent life.
 
________________________________
 
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 15 04:58:43 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 04:58:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Ready for Reality?
In-Reply-To: <4E70F1B9.4020102@earthlink.net>
References: <1315928920.88056.YahooMailRC@web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<4E70F1B9.4020102@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4E71E873.1020600@earthlink.net>


I think this program is very good.  It is definitive,
not waffling.  I think it explains things at a level
that many can understand.  It shows that the adverse
consequences are now.  It asks people to talk to the
politicians.

I am not happy that the hosts / hostesses and their
clothing appear to be chosen to be like U.S. news
anchors, but maybe it works.

There is an element that is the same every hour, but
there is variation in accordance with who is in the
time zone where it is 7PM.  Maybe that is the time to
get a larger audience.

It's good that the audience keeps growing, (now at
2,900,000).  But that is still a small part of the
total population.  Especially when considering that
it is now "in Beijing".

Fortunately, each segment apparently remains to be
seen later.

Gerry


Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> If I have not made an arithmetic error, this event
> begins at 5PM Pacific Time, (today).
>
> Gerry
>
>
> Caroline Yacoub wrote:
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>> *From:* May Boeve - 350.org <organizers at 350.org>
>> *To:* Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>> *Sent:* Mon, September 12, 2011 12:38:05 PM
>> *Subject:* Ready for Reality?
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> *Have you been noticing the weather getting wilder where you live, and
>> in the news around the world?*
>>
>> Well, we wanted to share with you an exciting global event from our
>> partners that will help connect the dots between the wild weather we?re
>> seeing, climate change, and why it's so important we push the planet
>> beyond fossil fuels.
>>
>> *The event is called 24 Hours of Reality
>> <http://act.350.org/go/352?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=1> -- it?s
>> happening THIS WEDNESDAY, Sep 14th, and it will be a 24-hour worldwide
>> marathon all about the reality of the climate crisis.* Around the world,
>> from New York City to South Africa to the Solomon Islands, people will
>> use the power of the Internet to present their stories of living with
>> climate change, and make clear the connection between extreme weather
>> and the corporate carbon pollution that's changing our climate.
>>
>> All the presentations, which will be in multiple languages, and in every
>> single time zone, will be *streamed live* at ClimateRealityProject.org
>> <http://act.350.org/go/352?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=2>.
>>
>> Check out the video below:
>> <http://act.350.org/go/359?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=3>
>>
>> /24 Hours of Reality is being spearheaded by Vice President Al Gore, one
>> of the first champions to explain that 350 is the most important number
>> on the planet./
>>
>> Many of us within the 350 movement already get the basic science and
>> reality of climate change -- yet we sometimes struggle with getting our
>> friends to really grasp the urgency. This event is a great opportunity
>> to help your friends see why you care so much (plus, you can always pick
>> up a new communication tip or two).
>>
>> I'll be calling up my friends to gather around my laptop, with some
>> nearby snacks -- and you can invite folks too. There are also a bunch of
>> public viewing events
>> <http://act.350.org/go/354?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=4> you can check
>> out.
>>
>> *The timing of 24 Hours of Reality
>> <http://act.350.org/go/352?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=5> couldn't be more
>> perfect -- it's just 10 days before Moving Planet
>> <http://act.350.org/go/59?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=6>, the global day
>> of bike rallies and on-the-ground events to call for climate action.
>> It's that one-two kick of awareness and activism that's got me really
>> excited.*
>>
>> At the end of many of the Climate Reality Presentations there will be a
>> plug for joining Moving Planet actions -- so we can all move together
>> from knowledge to action.
>>
>> We hope you?ll be watching Wednesday too!
>>
>> Onwards,
>>
>> May Boeve, for the 350.org
>> <http://act.350.org/go/19?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=7> team
>>
>> PS: This event isn't just an opportunity to strengthen the movement --
>> it's a tool to help us grow it. Click here to get the word out on
>> Facebook <http://act.350.org/go/355?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=8> and
>> Twitter <http://act.350.org/go/357?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=9>.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *350.org is building a global grassroots movement to solve the climate
>> crisis.* Our online campaigns, grassroots organizing, and mass public
>> actions are led from the bottom up by thousands of volunteer organizers
>> in over 188 countries. You can join 350.org on Facebook by becoming a
>> fan of our page at facebook.com/350org <http://facebook.com/350org>and
>> follow us on twitter by visiting twitter.com/350
>> <http://twitter.com/350>. To join our list (maybe a friend forwarded you
>> this e-mail) visit www.350.org/signup <http://www.350.org/signup>. To
>> support our work, donate securely online at 350.org/donate
>> <http://350.org/donate>.
>> *
>> What is 350? *350 is the number that leading scientists say is the safe
>> upper limit for carbon dioxide in our atmosphere. Scientists measure
>> carbon dioxide in "parts per million" (ppm), so 350ppm is the number
>> humanity needs to get below as soon as possible to avoid runaway climate
>> change. To get there, we need a different kind of PPM?a "people powered
>> movement" that is made of people like you in every corner of the planet.
>>
>> --
>> You can unsubscribe from this mailing list at any time.
>> <http://act.350.org/cms/unsubscribe/unsubscribe/?akid=1247.313989.wopcjo&t=1>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Sep 15 10:21:28 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:21:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: GP ADVISORY: US Greens endorse Sept. 15 rally at
	UN demanding self-determination for Palestinians
Message-ID: <1316107288.46753.YahooMailRC@web181014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>





----- Forwarded Message ----
From: shane que hee <squehee at ucla.edu>
Sent: Wed, September 14, 2011 6:05:20 PM
Subject: GP ADVISORY: US Greens endorse Sept. 15 rally at UN demanding 
self-determination for Palestinians


>Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:21:16 -0400
>Subject: GP ADVISORY: US Greens endorse Sept. 15 
>rally at UN demanding self-determination for Palestinians
>From: Green News - DC <dcsgpnews10 at gmail.com>
>
>
>GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES
>http://www.gp.org
>
>For Immediate Release:
>Wednesday, September 14, 2011
>
>Contacts:
>Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-518-5624, cell 202-904-7614,
>mclarty at greens.org
>Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, starlene at gp.org
>
>
>The Green Party of the United States endorses the Sept. 15 rally at
>the UN demanding self-determination for Palestinians
>
>? Green Party Speakers Bureau: Green leaders available to speak on
>foreign policy: http://www.gp.org/speakers/speakers-foreign-policy.php
>
>
>WASHINGTON, DC -- The Green Party of the United States has endorsed
>the Thursday, September 15 Palestine Rally at the United Nations, in
>support of the right of self-determination for Palestinians.
>
>The march and rally
>(http://al-awdany.org/2011/07/sept-15-palestine-rally-at-the-united-nations),
>scheduled to take place in advance of a UN vote on recognition of
>Palestinian statehood, are sponsored by the Palestine UN Solidarity
>Coalition.
>
>Participants will call for the US to cut off aid for Israel, for
>Israel to end its occupation of the Palestinian territories, and for
>national and international boycott, divestment, and sanctions against
>Israel until it complies with numerous resolutions promising
>Palestinians their basic rights.? The Green Party has consistently
>supported these goals and spoken out publicly for sovereignty,
>equality, and the right of return for Palestinians, including an end
>to apartheid inside Israel.
>
>"For too many decades, Palestinian rights have been delayed.? The
>protests that are taking place in various cities this week will
>communicate an important message: delaying rights is effectively
>denying rights.? The time to recognize and implement rights is now,"
>said Muhammed Malik, member of the Green Party's International
>Committee (http://www.gp.org/committees/intl) and co-chair of
>Miami-Dade Green Party.? Mr. Malik will be speaking at the South
>Florida Palestinian Self-Determination Rally on September 15
>(http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=217314961638622).
>
>Marchers in New York City will gather at Times Square at 4:30 pm and
>march to Grand Central and then continue on to the UN at 5:30 pm.
>Greens plan to participate and march under the party's banner.? For
>events in Washington, DC and other cities, visit "September 15: Real
>Democracy, Not Hypocrisy" (http://www.september15.org and
>http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=219805248070924).
>
>"The UN vote alone won't solve the Middle East conflict and ensure
>Palestinians their human rights," said Justine McCabe, co-chair of the
>International Committee.? "That's why the demands of the September 15
>rally remain important.? We must place pressure on Israel and push the
>US to reverse its policy of unquestioning support for Israel's
>criminal actions, such as the 2009 invasion of Gaza, occupation of the
>West Bank and Gaza, and internal apartheid."
>
>The Green Party has called for a negotiated, peaceful resolution to
>the conflict that establishes full rights and security for all
>Israelis and Palestinians, with an immediate end to all violence
>directed at unarmed civilians.
>
>Green Party leaders view the two-state solution as a half-measure,
>intended at best to end Israel's military occupation in some parts of
>the West Bank, while not addressing the heart of the conflict -- the
>dispossession since 1948 of the majority native population of historic
>Palestine and Israel's refusal to allow Palestinian refugees to return
>home.? Greens have advocated the one-state solution, in which all
>citizens enjoy full citizenship and rights regardless of ethnicity or
>religion, and have warned that the two-state solution will result in
>ongoing conflict and violence, while the formation of a single
>democratic state would bring greater possibility for sustainable
>peace.
>
>Greens supported the Gaza-bound flotillas that faced blockades and
>assaults by the Israeli Navy when they carried food and humanitarian
>aid to besieged Palestinians
>(http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=431).
>
>
>MORE INFORMATION
>
>Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org
>202-319-7191
>? Green candidate database and campaign information:
>http://www.gp.org/elections.shtml
>? News Center http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml
>? Speakers Bureau http://www.gp.org/speakers
>? Ballot Access Page http://www.gp.org/ballotstatus
>? Livestream Channel http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus
>? Video Page http://www.gp.org/video/index.php
>
>Press conferences, forums, and other events at the Green Party's 2011
>Annual National Meeting in Alfred, NY, broadcast and archived on the
>Green Party's Livestream Channel
>http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus
>? 2011 Annual National Meeting http://nygreenfest.org
>
>Green Pages: The official publication of record of the Green Party of
>the United States (Summer 2011 issue now online)
>http://gp.org/greenpages-blog
>
>
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From andi at wrytor.com  Sat Sep 17 17:31:28 2011
From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:31:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Food costs keep climbing.  Time to think Greens
In-Reply-To: <4D714E80.7040906@charter.net>
References: <4D714E80.7040906@charter.net>
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Wes, one of the costs is that we no longer experience the thrill you felt with a mandarin orange.  In my case, it was any orange in the toe of my Xmas stocking. That's a real loss of the feeling of being alive.

I rarely buy things out of season because I am a family farmer and I know when most things are available.  It's a delight for me when my apricots are ripe, and watermelon, and apples, and walnuts!  I wait with anticipation for those wonderful flavors.  The rest of the year, if I haven't frozen or stored away, I do without those things.

I foresee a time when people are going to have something like a "victory garden"?when they will grow things they can have without needing a ration ticket!
Andrea

On Mar 4, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Wes Rolley wrote:


<clip>
....It is no longer like the days when I was a student when we ate whatever was available locally and a mandarin orange was a Christmas stocking treat.  
<clip>

> It is a privilege to be able to eat peaches in February and kiwi in July. We just need to acknowledge that there is a cost for that privilege and that cost will continue to rise. We are using more fossil fuel energy every year and finding less new energy reserves. That can not be good for reducing costs.

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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Sun Sep 18 13:50:27 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:50:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] meeting
Message-ID: <1316379027.59693.YahooMailRC@web181018.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Yesterday I called Drew to remind him that he had volunteered to do the agenda 
for the meeting this month (which is coming up this week, since this is a 
five-Thursday month. ) He thanked me for reminding him, and said he would try to 
get Valerie to do it, since he is in Colorado. I haven't seen anything from 
either of them today, so, since I will not be at the meeting, I think maybe 
somebody ought to just put out a call for agenda items, and see if anybody picks 
up the ball and runs with it.
Caroline
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From vdf at juno.com  Sun Sep 18 19:04:01 2011
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:04:01 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting
Message-ID: <20110918.190401.24573.0@webmail55.vgs.untd.com>

Hi everyone,

I've gotten a call from Drew, who volunteered to prepare the agenda for this Thursday's meeting.  He said he won't be able to attend the meeting and asked if I would be willing to prepare the agenda.  I'm willing to do that.

Does anyone have concerns with my preparing the agenda for this Thursday, or would anyone else prefer to do it?  If so, please let this list know.

Otherwise...

Please send your agenda items to this list: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org.

I'll add items to the agenda in the order in which they appear on this list.

I'll check the list for agenda items until 7:30 PM on Wednesday, September 21, and everything that I've seen on the list up to that time will be on the draft agenda that I bring to the meeting.

If you think of items after 7:30 PM on Wednesday, no worries -- we will revise and affirm the agenda at the start of the meeting, so be prepared to make suggestions then.


=== Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on September 22, 2011 ===

Location:  San Jose Peace & Justice Center, 48 S 7th St, San Jose

6:30 PM  Informal social time: eat, chat, etc.

7:00 PM  Formal social time: practice one-minute speeches, eat, chat, etc.

7:30 PM  Begin meeting

*  Choose facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, vibes watcher, October agenda preparer
       2 min

*  Introductions and short announcements
       10 min

*  Revise and affirm agenda
       4 min

*  Treasurer's report, pass the hat
       4 min, Jim Doyle


Respectfully,
Valerie Face 

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From jgshurt69 at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 21:54:43 2011
From: jgshurt69 at aol.com (jgshurt69 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:54:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Wall Street Today
Message-ID: <8CE449F6179D7DB-2F84-32E7C@webmail-m131.sysops.aol.com>

https://occupywallst.org/


From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 22:10:10 2011
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:10:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20110918.190401.24573.0@webmail55.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110918.190401.24573.0@webmail55.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1316409010.7825.YahooMailNeo@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Valerie,
?
We should have something about the Move To Amend movement.? I wasn't able to attend any of the events this month, but it would be nice to get a report back.? Thanks.
?
Sincerely,
?
John Thielking

From: Valerie D. Face <vdf at juno.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:04 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting

Hi everyone,

I've gotten a call from Drew, who volunteered to prepare the agenda for this Thursday's meeting.? He said he won't be able to attend the meeting and asked if I would be willing to prepare the agenda.? I'm willing to do that.

Does anyone have concerns with my preparing the agenda for this Thursday, or would anyone else prefer to do it?? If so, please let this list know.

Otherwise...

Please send your agenda items to this list: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org.

I'll add items to the agenda in the order in which they appear on this list.

I'll check the list for agenda items until 7:30 PM on Wednesday, September 21, and everything that I've seen on the list up to that time will be on the draft agenda that I bring to the meeting.

If you think of items after 7:30 PM on Wednesday, no worries -- we will revise and affirm the agenda at the start of the meeting, so be prepared to make suggestions then.


=== Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on September 22, 2011 ===

Location:? San Jose Peace & Justice Center, 48 S 7th St, San Jose

6:30 PM? Informal social time: eat, chat, etc.

7:00 PM? Formal social time: practice one-minute speeches, eat, chat, etc.

7:30 PM? Begin meeting

*? Choose facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, vibes watcher, October agenda preparer
? ? ? 2 min

*? Introductions and short announcements
? ? ? 10 min

*? Revise and affirm agenda
? ? ? 4 min

*? Treasurer's report, pass the hat
? ? ? 4 min, Jim Doyle


Respectfully,
Valerie Face 

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From vdf at juno.com  Sun Sep 18 22:14:45 2011
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:14:45 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting
Message-ID: <20110918.221445.16261.1@webmail58.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks for the suggestion, John!

Would anyone like to present a report?  If so, please let this list know and include the amount of agenda time you need.

Thanks,
Valerie

Please note: message attached

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Mon Sep 19 09:47:27 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:47:27 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20110918.221445.16261.1@webmail58.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110918.221445.16261.1@webmail58.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4E77721F.1010504@prodsyse.com>

Gerry seems to have been the lead organizer of this event.  Merriam, 
Caroline, and others made important contributions.  I took his flip 
charts, and I could prepare a summary based on those.  Spencer


On 9/18/2011 10:14 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion, John!
>
> Would anyone like to present a report?  If so, please let this list know and include the amount of agenda time you need.
>
> Thanks,
> Valerie
>
> Please note: message attached
>
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Sep 19 11:44:31 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:44:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <4E77721F.1010504@prodsyse.com>
References: <20110918.221445.16261.1@webmail58.vgs.untd.com>
	<4E77721F.1010504@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <1316457871.30477.YahooMailRC@web181016.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

As I was out at the table during the whole program and will not be at the 
meeting, I would really appreciate a look at the flip chart.
Caroline




________________________________
From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
To: Valerie D. Face <vdf at juno.com>
Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Mon, September 19, 2011 9:47:27 AM
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting

Gerry seems to have been the lead organizer of this event.? Merriam, Caroline, 
and others made important contributions.? I took his flip charts, and I could 
prepare a summary based on those.? Spencer 



On 9/18/2011 10:14 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote: 
Thanks for the suggestion, John!  Would anyone like to present a report?  If so, 
please let this list know and include the amount of agenda time you need.  
Thanks, Valerie  Please note: message attached  
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Sep 19 11:55:35 2011
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:55:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20110918.190401.24573.0@webmail55.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110918.190401.24573.0@webmail55.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1316458535.98112.YahooMailRC@web181020.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thanks for doing this Valerie.




________________________________
From: Valerie D. Face <vdf at juno.com>
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Sent: Sun, September 18, 2011 7:04:01 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for September 22 Meeting

Hi everyone,

I've gotten a call from Drew, who volunteered to prepare the agenda for this 
Thursday's meeting.? He said he won't be able to attend the meeting and asked if 
I would be willing to prepare the agenda.? I'm willing to do that.

Does anyone have concerns with my preparing the agenda for this Thursday, or 
would anyone else prefer to do it?? If so, please let this list know.

Otherwise...

Please send your agenda items to this list: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org.

I'll add items to the agenda in the order in which they appear on this list.

I'll check the list for agenda items until 7:30 PM on Wednesday, September 21, 
and everything that I've seen on the list up to that time will be on the draft 
agenda that I bring to the meeting.

If you think of items after 7:30 PM on Wednesday, no worries -- we will revise 
and affirm the agenda at the start of the meeting, so be prepared to make 
suggestions then.


=== Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on September 22, 2011 ===

Location:? San Jose Peace & Justice Center, 48 S 7th St, San Jose

6:30 PM? Informal social time: eat, chat, etc.

7:00 PM? Formal social time: practice one-minute speeches, eat, chat, etc.

7:30 PM? Begin meeting

*? Choose facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, vibes watcher, October agenda 
preparer
? ? ? 2 min

*? Introductions and short announcements
? ? ? 10 min

*? Revise and affirm agenda
? ? ? 4 min

*? Treasurer's report, pass the hat
? ? ? 4 min, Jim Doyle


Respectfully,
Valerie Face 

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 19 12:36:25 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:36:25 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tar Sands
Message-ID: <4E7799B9.7040504@earthlink.net>


In 2007, Bush signed a law that would prevent the US
from buying tar sands oil because it would have too
high a carbon footprint.  Of course the oil industry
is trying to get around that or undo it.


"The Keystone Pipeline: Too Dirty for George W. Bush?"

     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/19-12

Gerry



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 19 14:16:49 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:16:49 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
Message-ID: <4E77B141.8030801@sbcglobal.net>

selection of one minute speeches speakers for October   3 min  group

making selection of one minute speakers
a fixed part of the agenda much the same
as selection of the agenda preparer for the next meeting    3 min  group

you tube videos of one minute speeches to our web site   5 min  Jim D,  
Spencer Graves

resolution(?) of P.O.Box mail pickup   3 min   Gerry Gras

November 24, December 22  2011 meeting dates   5 min  group

Report on move to amend      10 min    Gerry, Spencer

Follow up actions on move to amend   10 min   group

focus on electoral politics      5 min   Jim Doyle
    plans for 2012 elections
      June          5 2012  open primary
      November 6 2012  general election
      October    9 2012   vote by mail ballots available

updating outreach literature committee      5 min    Jim Doyle
  possible themes could be "Cut your losses"  "Performance scorecard"
    "comparrisons of rhetoric and actions"   "not voting?  vote Green"

guest speakers series - activists under 25   10 min   Jim Doyle

campaign finance reform        3 min    Jim Doyle

fair and equitable taxation      3 min     Jim Doyle




From andid at cagreens.org  Mon Sep 19 14:20:10 2011
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:20:10 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tar Sands
In-Reply-To: <4E7799B9.7040504@earthlink.net>
References: <4E7799B9.7040504@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <10C887F8-350F-4B54-80A3-C752FB564E43@cagreens.org>

Gerry, didn't you love hearing from PPJC's Paul George, at the Humanist Community's Sunday Forum, about the last "liberal" president:  Nixon???!!!
And he proved it!  I plan to watch the video on YouTube to enjoy that again!!
Andrea

On Sep 19, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Gerry Gras wrote:

> 
> In 2007, Bush signed a law that would prevent the US
> from buying tar sands oil because it would have too
> high a carbon footprint.  Of course the oil industry
> is trying to get around that or undo it.
> 
> 
> "The Keystone Pipeline: Too Dirty for George W. Bush?"
> 
>    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/19-12
> 
> Gerry
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Mon Sep 19 14:37:44 2011
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:37:44 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 2 Cal Democrat Scandals
Message-ID: <8CE452B80923F3D-1BF8-638DC@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com>



 Dear Green Friends, 
  
The trouble with trying to be a Green blogger is that Wes Rolley, Martin Zehr, and I just cannot keep up with it. See below a link to my comment on two big Democratic Party Machine scandals screaming from the front page of Saturday's L.A. Times.
  
Alex Walker 
LA Greens 
  
  

          2 Cal Democrat Scandals - Why Have a Green Party?          

            
Consider the Los Angeles Times front page below.  Not one, but two major scandals rocked the California Democratic Party in the same week. Both involve big bucks from the Democrats' fat cat campaign donors. Moreover, the sscandal of the bankrupt Solyndra solar energy company helps retro Republicans attack Green Energy. 


Thanks a lot Democrats.  Why have a Green Party?  Tell me again how we don't need Greens, Peace & Freedom, Libertarians, and the A.I.P. because we have this great "choice" between "liberal" Democrats and "conservative" Republicans.
  
. . .
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Read More and Please Leave a Comment at My Blog on California Greening: 
  http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2011/09/2-cal-democrat-scandals-why-have-green.html 
  




  
  
  
  
  



 


 
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 19 16:51:05 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:51:05 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Denmark Green?
Message-ID: <4E77D569.9070607@earthlink.net>


Although this article does not mention a Green Party,
it claims that ...
"Denmark?s new government more green than red"

http://energybulletin.net/stories/2011-09-19/denmark%E2%80%99s-new-government-more-green-red

Also, they say they will work for a requirement of 2/3 vote
on some issues, including war.

"Actual democracy, everyone is hoping."

Gerry



From alexcathy at aol.com  Mon Sep 19 17:15:00 2011
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:15:00 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 2 Cal Democrat Scandals
In-Reply-To: <8CE452B80923F3D-1BF8-638DC@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE452B80923F3D-1BF8-638DC@webmail-d142.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CE4541786DFA59-15BC-6ADF1@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com>

UPDATE: LIST OF DURKEE CAMPAIGNS
    
Thanks to the Sacramento Bee, we can browse a list all of all the state campaign committee reports by Kinde Durkee, the ethically-challenged Democratic Party financial wizard, in 2011, according to Secretary of State's office data.
    
Read More and Please Leave a Comment at My Blog on California Greening:
    http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2011/09/2-cal-democrat-scandals-why-have-green.html 
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From alexcathy at aol.com  Mon Sep 19 17:22:24 2011
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 20:22:24 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Denmark Green?
In-Reply-To: <4E77D569.9070607@earthlink.net>
References: <4E77D569.9070607@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8CE4542813F6199-15BC-6AEFC@webmail-d171.sysops.aol.com>


 Gerry, 

Thanks for posting this. I can use it in my writings about "3D Politics."  

 


 

 

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From: Gerry Gras <gerrygras at earthlink.net>
To: Post South SF Bay discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 4:51 pm
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Denmark Green?


Although this article does not mention a Green Party, 
it claims that ... 
"Denmark?s new government more green than red" 
 
http://energybulletin.net/stories/2011-09-19/denmark%E2%80%99s-new-government-more-green-red 
 
Also, they say they will work for a requirement of 2/3 vote 
on some issues, including war. 
 
"Actual democracy, everyone is hoping." 
 
Gerry 
 
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 19 17:28:10 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:28:10 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Time to raise taxes on the rich"
In-Reply-To: <4E77DD6E.9090109@earthlink.net>
References: <4E77DD6E.9090109@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4E77DE1A.1080105@earthlink.net>


 From CNN!

"At what point do we realize that class warfare isn't a
liberal goal but in fact a conservative reality, advanced
through decades of policies that help the rich cheat the
middle class?"

"In fact, even among Republican voters, raising taxes on
the rich is more popular than cuts to Social Security or
Medicare"

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/14/opinion/kohn-tax-the-rich/index.html


Gerry




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 19 18:58:45 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:58:45 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama gets competition in primaries
Message-ID: <4E77F355.3080207@earthlink.net>

"Progressives Vow to Challenge Obama in Democratic Primaries"

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/09/19-7

"The proposal, which has been endorsed by over 45 distinguished leaders, 
seeks to have a slate of six candidates run against President Obama, 
each representing a field in which Obama has never clearly staked a 
progressive claim or where he has drifted toward the corporatist right."

Gerry


From vdf at juno.com  Mon Sep 19 19:13:44 2011
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:13:44 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
Message-ID: <20110919.191344.32465.1@webmail53.vgs.untd.com>

Hi Jim,

One of your proposed agenda items is, "November 24, December 22  2011 meeting dates   5 min  group".  At the June 23 meeting we agreed to schedule time on the San Jose Peace & Justice Center's calendar (http://www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar.php) for November 17 (instead of the 24th) and December 15 (instead of the 22nd).  We weren't sure if we would actually meet both months, but we consensed to reserve the time on the calendar so we wouldn't have to scramble for a spot at the last minute.  I just checked, and we're on the calendar for both time slots.

Do you still want to have something on the agenda about the November & December meetings, or were you just concerned about the original dates?

Thanks,
Valerie

---------- Original Message ----------
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:16:49 -0700
From: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>
To: sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items

selection of one minute speeches speakers for October   3 min  group

making selection of one minute speakers
a fixed part of the agenda much the same
as selection of the agenda preparer for the next meeting    3 min  group

you tube videos of one minute speeches to our web site   5 min  Jim D,  
Spencer Graves

resolution(?) of P.O.Box mail pickup   3 min   Gerry Gras

November 24, December 22  2011 meeting dates   5 min  group

Report on move to amend      10 min    Gerry, Spencer

Follow up actions on move to amend   10 min   group

focus on electoral politics      5 min   Jim Doyle
    plans for 2012 elections
      June          5 2012  open primary
      November 6 2012  general election
      October    9 2012   vote by mail ballots available

updating outreach literature committee      5 min    Jim Doyle
  possible themes could be "Cut your losses"  "Performance scorecard"
    "comparrisons of rhetoric and actions"   "not voting?  vote Green"

guest speakers series - activists under 25   10 min   Jim Doyle

campaign finance reform        3 min    Jim Doyle

fair and equitable taxation      3 min     Jim Doyle


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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 20 12:28:38 2011
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:28:38 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: [G-C-F] "It's Not Over Yet!" Troy Davis Denied
 Clemency (sasha karlik): sample letter
In-Reply-To: <594C1A533E5547F6BB67645F5A77E4DE@sr1222nx>
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NAACP declares intention to work to end death penalty in Georgia.


From: 
To: cal-forum at cagreens.org
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:26:09 -0700
Subject: [G-C-F] "It's Not Over Yet!" Troy Davis Denied Clemency (sasha	karlik): sample letter











Greens,
 
    Thank you, Sasha Karlik, to continue to bring news of 
ongoing clemency struggle to save the life of Troy Davis.
 
    I support Sasha's recommendation, to e-contact 
Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles, to ask they reconsider their decision to 
deny clemency for Troy Davis.
 
    As not all who care about this issue may want to compose 
a letter from scratch, I enclose an email I just sent Georgia Board of 
Pardons and Paroles at
Clemency_Information at pap.state.ga.us?subject=Please%20reconsider%20Troy%20Davis%20case%21
 
    I urge all Greens, and those who read this, to 
immediately write and send a letter.
 
As ever,
 
Sandy Stiassni
 
 
Hello Georgia Board of Pardons and 
Paroles,

 
    I write as a private citizen, 
a native not of Georgia, but of New York, and current resident of 
California.
 
    I'm in receipt of news that 
Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles just 
issued a denial of clemency for Troy Davis.
 
    While this is to express my 
disappointment at your decision, to not save the life of a man accused 
of murder, as to his guilt there remains so much doubt, I want you to 
know my thoughts are also focused on the tragic waste of the life of 
Officer Mark MacPhail; I keep his family, and families of all victims, in 
my prayers.
 
    As Georgia native, former 
State representative and Congresswomen Cynthia McKinney so plaintively stated, 
"To ignore any shadow of doubt that you might harbor will definitely cost a 
young man his life and Georgia will reenter the annals of a history that we all 
have worked so hard to reconstruct."
 
    I ask you carefully 
reconsider your decision, that you vacate this penalty of death, and 
commute the sentence of Troy Davis.
 
    Thank you for your kind 
consideration.
 

Sincerely,
 
Sandy Stiassni
 
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> From: 
sasha karlik <sasha at greens.org>
> To: Greens-Cal-Forum <cal-forum at cagreens.org>
> Subject: [G-C-F] "It's Not Over Yet!" Troy 
Davis Denied Clemency
> Message-ID: <4E78CA08.4060802 at greens.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="utf-8"
> 
> --Please distribute immediately--Please take 
this action to politely
> email the Georgia parole board to reconsider--We 
must stop this execution.
> 
> -------- Original Message 
--------
> Subject: "It's Not Over Yet!" Troy Davis Denied 
Clemency
> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:36:04 -0400 (EDT)
> From: 
National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
> <abe at mail.democracyinaction.org>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear 
Fellow Abolitionists,
> 
> Just a few minutes ago, the Georgia Board 
of Pardons and Paroles issued
> its denial of clemency for Troy Davis. As 
disappointing as this is, the
> famous Joe Hill quote from before he was 
executed comes to mind: "Don't
> waste any time in mourning. 
Organize...!
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=hhXF5P3ckh7wG4yYx%2FOx7ZjMT20ahoof>" 
> NCADP's statement is here
> 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=f2NGoGmyCkSJxmYUFstGo5jMT20ahoof>and
> below <#TroyStatement>.
> 

> But first, Troy Davis is not dead yet! 
> 
> Right now, 
please immediately act and urge the parole board to
> reconsider their 
decision. Please /politely/ e-mail
> <mailto:Clemency_Information at pap.state.ga.us?subject=Please%20reconsider%20Troy%20Davis%20case%21>
> the board members at or fax their 
office at (404) 651-8502.
> 
> Then, click here to *join us in 
calling on the Board to reconsider its
> decision, and on the Chatham 
County (Savannah) District Attorney Larry
> Chisolm to do the right 
thing.*
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=O5kfzqYtis2OkNlTmSyvrJjMT20ahoof>
> They have until the final moments 
before Troy's scheduled execution to
> put the brakes on this runaway 
justice system.
> 
> Then, join a local demonstration, or initiate 
one yourself. Today is a
> Day of Protest to express our outrage at the 
recent decision to deny
> Troy Davis clemency. And on Wednesday (Sept. 
21), we're calling for a
> Day of Vigil on Troy's impending execution 
date.
> 
> *If you are able to organize locally for either of these 
events, please
> click to tell our partners at Amnesty International USA 
about your
> plans.*
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=r8ZuvzX1PVQgAMY7ldZxMJjMT20ahoof>
> 
> */If you can't make it to a 
local demonstration, /**/please help NCADP/*
> 
<#donatetoncadptostopitnow>*/continue this important work to end 
the
> death penalty once and for all./*
> 
> Everyone is 
encouraged to wear a black armband, with "not in my name!"
> written on 
it.
> 
> In Atlanta, there will be a protest rally at the state 
capitol tonight
> at 7pm EDT (Washington Street side).
> 
> In 
Washington, DC, we'll be back at Tivoli Square (Columbia Heights
> Metro 
stop) tonight at 6pm EDT.
> 
> Everywhere else: protests are 
encouraged. Check with your state
> coalition
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=PG04aouI9K%2FbKKArQ9CzfJjMT20ahoof>to
> see what plans they have.
> 
> 
Tomorrow (Wednesday 9/21) will be a "Day of Vigil." Wear your black
> 
armband, with "not in my name!" written on it. We'll post further info
> 
later tonight or in the morning. For now we know that there will be a
> 
vigil in Jackson across from the prison at Towaliga County Line Baptist
> 
Church and a vigil in Atlanta on the capitol steps.  Everywhere 
else:
> vigils are encouraged. Check with your state coalition
> 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=EXJfj3c24W4%2FTgIWDB6Rb5jMT20ahoof>to
> see what plans they have.
> 
> 
_Again_, while we are focused today on saving the life of a man accused
> 
of murder where there remains so much doubt about his guilt,/we remember
> 
Officer Mark MacPhail/ and urge you to keep his family and the families
> 
of all victims in your thoughts and prayers. We know this must be very
> 
difficult for them....
> 
> _Also_, for those of us with children, 
talking about this situation
> becomes more difficult. NCADP's Michael 
Stone blogged about doing so and
> shares a recent article, here
> 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=A%2BvllZzPaWf8nIdiNXnQ1sJxyPgJXane>.
> 
> Please know that NCADP is 
invested in this case because its the right
> thing to do, and also 
because so many of the aspects of this case speak
> to the same issues 
that are present in so many other cases which are not
> nearly as 
high-profile. Troy Davis is already a household name, and
> because our 
our collective action, over the next few days, many more
> people will 
learn of the systemic failures of the death penalty, and
> join our 
movement
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=IRp48AKgii8uZOaxRwLMiJjMT20ahoof>.
> 
> There is so much to do, and 
we want to do more. _Thank you for ta__king
> action_, and if you are 
able, please also take a moment tosupport NCADP
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=zuQOpu31FzglW%2F2VAAhwYZjMT20ahoof>so
> that we can continue this important work, 
now, and in the future.
> */Please remember that through the end of 
September, all new donors to
> NCADP will have their tax-deductible 
contribution doubled by a special
> matching grant from Atlantic 
Philanthropies./* *Click here to donate
> today*
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=kHki6rhM1OFWvEkiSyKuSJjMT20ahoof>.
> Thank you.
> 
> Finally, 
it must be said that Troy Davis is not the only person
> scheduled to be 
executed in the coming weeks and months. *Of particular
> note is 
tonight's execution in Texas of Cleve Foster. *NCADP lists every
> 
upcoming execution on the top right side of its web page
> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=QXG7HbI0kBdNlus7%2FRa8mpjMT20ahoof>,
> and you can click on each name to 
learn more and take action via our
> State Affiliate where the execution 
is scheduled.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

> Official NCADP Statement on the denial of clemency for Troy 
Davis
> 
> /"The National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty is 
stunned and
> disappointed./
> 
> /"There can be no clearer 
indication than the Board of Pardons and
> Paroles decision today, that 
the system is profoundly and unalterably
> broken./
> 
> 
/"Each institution in Georgia that was charged with the responsibility
> 
of doing justice in this case has failed. /
> 
> /"And now the Board 
of Pardons and Parole has failed miserably even
> though they had every 
opportunity to do their job properly. /
> 
> /"It is now clearer 
than ever -- that the only way to prevent an
> innocent man from being 
executed in Georgia is to end the death penalty
> in that state once and 
for all./
> 
> /"We pledge to work with our sisters and brothers in 
Georgia who have
> worked tirelessly to prevent the travesty of justice in 
the Troy Davis
> case and to retire the peculiar institution known as 
capital punishment,
> brick by brick."/
> 
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

> /Contact us at Abe at ncadp.org <mailto:abe at ncadp.org>. Please join NCADP
> on Facebook
> 
<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=txlrFk0R6CtGEYCtpK7XMZjMT20ahoof>
> or LinkedIn
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<http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=MbrhkOSdINZaecFX3Rr38ZjMT20ahoof>,
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> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=aAfdXrfCU95okQM0tZWkPpjMT20ahoof>,
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 20 16:43:28 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:43:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] arrests begin again ...
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References: <4E7924C7.3010000@earthlink.net>
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Now it's in the vicinity of Wall Street.

     https://occupywallst.org/

Gerry



From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 21 16:33:43 2011
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:33:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Troy David Execution Delay
Message-ID: <BAY165-W7B50D657553782EE74FF29E0D0@phx.gbl>



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/22/troy-davis-execution-delayed
Thanks to all who helped.




 		 	   		  
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Wed Sep 21 19:44:34 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:44:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items
In-Reply-To: <4E77B141.8030801@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4E77B141.8030801@sbcglobal.net>
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Can we add a discussion of the new web site for CA Greens?  (and yes, I 
will bring a summary of the presentation Sept. 12 by Move to Amend 
leader, David Cobb.)  --- and Thanks, Valerie, for volunteering to 
prepare the agenda.  Spencer


On 9/19/2011 2:16 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> selection of one minute speeches speakers for October   3 min  group
>
> making selection of one minute speakers
> a fixed part of the agenda much the same
> as selection of the agenda preparer for the next meeting    3 min  group
>
> you tube videos of one minute speeches to our web site   5 min  Jim 
> D,  Spencer Graves
>
> resolution(?) of P.O.Box mail pickup   3 min   Gerry Gras
>
> November 24, December 22  2011 meeting dates   5 min  group
>
> Report on move to amend      10 min    Gerry, Spencer
>
> Follow up actions on move to amend   10 min   group
>
> focus on electoral politics      5 min   Jim Doyle
>    plans for 2012 elections
>      June          5 2012  open primary
>      November 6 2012  general election
>      October    9 2012   vote by mail ballots available
>
> updating outreach literature committee      5 min    Jim Doyle
>  possible themes could be "Cut your losses"  "Performance scorecard"
>    "comparrisons of rhetoric and actions"   "not voting?  vote Green"
>
> guest speakers series - activists under 25   10 min   Jim Doyle
>
> campaign finance reform        3 min    Jim Doyle
>
> fair and equitable taxation      3 min     Jim Doyle
>
>
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From vdf at juno.com  Wed Sep 21 22:43:43 2011
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 05:43:43 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on September 22,
	2011
Message-ID: <20110921.224343.4837.1@webmail56.vgs.untd.com>

Hi everyone,

Here are all of the agenda items that were posted to the list by 7:30 PM today (minus the Nov/Dec meeting date item; Jim Doyle emailed me privately yesterday saying that we could delete that one).

This is just a draft.  We will revise and affirm the agenda at the meeting, so be prepared to make suggestions then.  It would be a good idea to post them to this list, too, for transparency's sake.


=== Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on September 22, 2011 ===

Location:  San Jose Peace & Justice Center, 48 S 7th St, San Jose

6:30 PM  Informal social time: eat, chat, etc.

7:00 PM  Formal social time: practice one-minute speeches, eat, chat, etc.

7:30 PM  Begin meeting

*  Choose facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, vibes watcher, October agenda preparer
       2 min

*  Introductions and short announcements
       10 min

*  Revise and affirm agenda
       4 min

*  Treasurer's report, pass the hat
       4 min, Jim Doyle

*  Selection of one minute speeches speakers for October
       3 min, Jim Doyle/group

*  Making selection of one minute speakers a fixed part of the agenda
       3 min, Jim Doyle/group

*  Putting Youtube videos of one minute speeches on our website
       5 min, Jim Doyle and Spencer Graves

*  Resolution of PO Box mail pickup
       3 min, Gerry Gras (submitted by Jim Doyle)

*  Report on Move to Amend event
       10 min, Gerry Gras and Spencer Graves

*  Follow up actions on Move to Amend
       10 min, Jim Doyle/group

*  Focus on electoral politics
       5 min, Jim Doyle

*  Updating outreach literature committee
       5 min, Jim Doyle

*  Guest speakers series - activists under 25
       10 min, Jim Doyle

*  Campaign finance reform
       3 min, Jim Doyle

*  Fair and equitable taxation
       3 min, Jim Doyle


Respectfully,
Valerie Face



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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Thu Sep 22 17:26:07 2011
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:26:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Political Awareness Week in Foothill
	College/Tabling Opp Oct 5 12 to 1 pm
Message-ID: <4fbfa.6968f47.3bad2c1f@aol.com>

September 22, 2011
 
I got a call this afternoon and asked for an email to  forward.  One Hour 
tabling opportunity at Foothill College 12 Noon to 1 PM  Wednesday October 
5th.  Can someone post to this list that they will call  back Gabrielle and 
make arrangements for table space?  Warner
 
 
  
____________________________________
 From: gbufrem at gmail.com
To: wb4d23 at aol.com
Sent: 9/22/2011 12:05:38 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: Political Awareness Week in Foothill  College


To the fellow members  of the Green Party,


We, the senators of the Associated Students of Foothill College would  
truly appreciate if one of your representatives could come and give political  
awareness with information on your party to our students. Since it is  
elections year we are making a big deal out of our POLITICAL AWARENESS WEEK!  The 
event will happen on October 5th, 2011 from 12-1 PM. We will have  different 
booths set up and we would genuinely appreciate if you could  participate 
in our event by being in one of them.


Gabrielle Bufrem 
(408) 210 - 3737
_gbufrem at gmail.com_ (mailto:gbufrem at gmail.com) 


Zion Fung 
(650) 575 - 9860
_zionfung at hotmail.com_ (mailto:zionfung at hotmail.com) 




We truly appreciate,
Gabrielle  Bufrem


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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Sep 22 22:08:46 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:08:46 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC General Meeting on September 22, 2011 minutes
In-Reply-To: <20110921.224343.4837.1@webmail56.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110921.224343.4837.1@webmail56.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4E7C145E.80502@prodsyse.com>

Please send additions and corrections to this list.  Thanks.  Spencer


On 9/21/2011 10:43 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Here are all of the agenda items that were posted to the list by 7:30 PM today (minus the Nov/Dec meeting date item; Jim Doyle emailed me privately yesterday saying that we could delete that one).
>
> This is just a draft.  We will revise and affirm the agenda at the meeting, so be prepared to make suggestions then.  It would be a good idea to post them to this list, too, for transparency's sake.
>
>
> === Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on September 22, 2011 ===
>
> Location:  San Jose Peace&  Justice Center, 48 S 7th St, San Jose
>
> 6:30 PM  Informal social time: eat, chat, etc.
>
> 7:00 PM  Formal social time: practice one-minute speeches, eat, chat, etc.
>
> 7:30 PM  Begin meeting
>
> *  Choose facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, vibes watcher, October agenda preparer
>         2 min

       Facilitator:  Tian


       Notetaker:  Spencer


       Timekeeper:  Merriam


       Vibes Watcher:  Fred


       Oct. agenda preparer:  Valerie

>
> *  Introductions and short announcements
>         10 min


       Guy Lambert:  San Jose City College.  undeclared.  building 
bridges, getting people to work together.


       Valerie Face:


        Merriam


       Jim Stauffer


       John T.


       Jim Doyle:  Next Thursday night, DeBug & NAACP is hosting an 
event at the Si Valley DeBug.  Benton Harbor, MI will speak.  ~7 PM.


       Fred D.


       Tian H.
>
> *  Revise and affirm agenda
>         4 min
>
> *  Treasurer's report, pass the hat
>         4 min, Jim Doyle


<$3,000 balance (~ $2,800).


       Merriam:  We need to order a tile for 25th anniversary of Collins 
House.


       Movie night:  Friday, Oct. 14:  Jim Stauffer suggested "The Yes 
Men".  They created gatt.org.  Need help with food, etc.
>
> *  Selection of one minute speeches speakers for October
>         3 min, Jim Doyle/group


       Merriam & Tian & John T.

> *  Making selection of one minute speakers a fixed part of the agenda
>         3 min, Jim Doyle/group


       Should add this to the standard agenda when selecting facilitator 
with Movie Night.  Accepted.


       Masao Suzuki is the leader of the South Bay Committee on 
Political Repression would like to speak to this group about that 
including Carlos Montes.  10 minute talk, 5 minute Q&A, total 15 
minutes.  7:30 - 7:45 next time.  (next Tuesday, here at the Peace 
Center, 7:30 PM = next meeting on this.)

>
> *  Putting Youtube videos of one minute speeches on our website
>         5 min, Jim Doyle and Spencer Graves

       Jim:  Q:  Is that a good idea?  Is that something the one-minute 
speakers would like to do?


       Spencer & Guy will meet with Shelby on what it takes to create 
the video.

>
> *  Resolution of PO Box mail pickup
>         3 min, Gerry Gras (submitted by Jim Doyle)


       Post Office reviewed what was on file and found that we were out 
of date.  Gerry's name is on the box.  Tian is picking up the mail.  No 
action required.
>
> *  Report on Move to Amend event
>         10 min, Gerry Gras and Spencer Graves


       We had a coalition of ~ 105 people.  Peninsula & SJ Peace & 
Justice Center, various other groups.  "Disclose Act" group.  The next 
day in San Jose, 45 people attended a luncheon organized by Richard 
Hobbs.  We have a DVD of David Cobb's talk.


             *** --- >>> Next meeting of Richard Hobbs' group:  Oct. 4, 
11:30 - 2:30 here at the Peace Center.
>
> *  Follow up actions on Move to Amend
>         10 min, Jim Doyle/group
>
> *  Focus on electoral politics
>         5 min, Jim Doyle

       Get Greens running for local "non-partisan" offices, commissions, 
school boards water district boards, etc.


       Merriam & Caroline has talking about doing something to build a 
movement, e.g., talking with Laura Wells to make a presentation about a 
state bank.  However, we don't have an adequate infrastructure to 
support a candidacy.


       Jim Stauffer:  The next excuse:  We don't have a dime to spend on 
this.  We need public pressure, lobbying council members, etc.  Steve 
Chessin (sp.), President of Californians for Electoral Reform.
>
> *  Updating outreach literature committee
>         5 min, Jim Doyle

       Jim has themes:  "Cut your losses", as in get out of the 
Democratic party & register Greens.  In the past, we've sent out 
newsletters.  Merriam:  We have too much to put on the table.  We need 
to cut it to ~ 5 things.  (1) 10 key values, (2) Donkey flier.  (3) ... 
??? Valerie would be willing to work on a committee for this.  Jim:  If 
we have a rack with position papers.  Tian wants one saying, "Run for 
office".

>
> *  Guest speakers series - activists under 25
>         10 min, Jim Doyle


      e.g. Silicon Valley DeBug, Californians for Justice, Vegilution, 
Students for Justice and Californians for Justice, Si. Valley Committee 
Against Secure Communities (SJSU:  Campus groups have mail boxes)


        Proposed:  We invite young adults from different groups speak, 
10 minutes + 5 minute discussion at the start of each meeting.


       Alternative:  A Food for Thought event.


       How about 4 times a year:  an open discussion meeting, invite one 
or two other groups.


       *** California Greens Web Site:  (John:  How does Drupal load 
onto a cell phone?)  This will be a topic at the next General Assembly 
in December.  We need to attend.  Warner may be able to provide 
information on this.  We should talk with Warner about this.  Preview 
the new web site.


       *** Merriam, Tian, Jim D., Jim S., Cameron and Spencer should 
contact Warner.  The County Council can send a letter depending on what 
Warner says.  Tian will start by interviewing Warner and Cameron.

>
> *  Campaign finance reform:  Next month.
>         3 min, Jim Doyle
>
> *  Fair and equitable taxation:  Next month.
>         3 min, Jim Doyle
>
>
> Respectfully,
> Valerie Face
>
>
>
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President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 23 10:25:55 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:25:55 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: TODAY Troy Davis! Sunday OBAMA HERE! Monday
 Support Prisoners Hunger Strike
In-Reply-To: <1928225968.-1222060307@org.orgDB.mail.democracyinaction.org>
References: <1928225968.-1222060307@org.orgDB.mail.democracyinaction.org>
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Obama is coming to Moffett.

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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Fri Sep 23 16:24:12 2011
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:24:12 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Great rant about the Republicans!
Message-ID: <4E7D151C.3060403@aceweb.com>

http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
This article is a fascinating look at the likely future of oil use:
http://www.postcarbon.org/blog-post/508186-the-peak-oil-crisis-the-german
The screw from mile 81 of Bike The Limits is now on a 1998 quarter.


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 23 16:44:44 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:44:44 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] notice from foothill college
Message-ID: <4E7D19EC.6010301@sbcglobal.net>

re Warner's posting titled

Fwd: Political Awareness Week in Foothill College
Tabling Opp   Oct 5 12 to 1 pm (WB4D23 at aol.com)


I have left a message with Gabrielle saying we would
like to be there and asked her to call me with more details.

Jim Doyle



From vdf at juno.com  Fri Sep 23 20:54:06 2011
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 03:54:06 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for Agenda Items for October 27 Meeting
Message-ID: <20110923.205406.5448.0@webmail57.vgs.untd.com>

Hi everyone,

At Thursday's meeting I volunteered to prepare the agenda for the October meeting.

Please send agenda items and changes to this list: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org.  Include the name of the presenter and the amount of time needed.  Please don't contact me privately.  Building the agenda on this list lets everyone know what's coming up and how full the agenda is getting.

At the end of Thursday's meeting we had two potential guest speakers for October.  When one of them has been confirmed, please send an email to this list so I can correct the agenda.

We had 2 items left over at the end of Thursday's meeting.  They have been added to the October agenda.

Here's what I have so far:


=== Draft Agenda for GPSCC General Meeting on October 27, 2011 ===

Location:  San Jose Peace & Justice Center, 48 S 7th St, San Jose

7:00 PM  Social time: practice one-minute speeches, eat, chat, etc.

7:30 PM  Begin meeting

*  Guest speaker: either (a) someone from Californians for Justice or (b) Masao Suzuki
       15 min (total, including Q & A)

*  Choose facilitator, note taker, timekeeper, vibes watcher, November agenda preparer, November one-minute speakers
       2 min

*  Introductions and short announcements
       10 min

*  Revise and affirm agenda
       4 min

*  Treasurer's report, pass the hat
       4 min, Jim Doyle

*  Movie Night
       6 min, Merriam Kathaleen

*  Make a decision on a speaker for November meeting
       4 min, group

*  Campaign finance reform (carried over from September agenda)
       3 min, Jim Doyle

*  Fair and equitable taxation (carried over from September agenda)
       3 min, Jim Doyle


Respectfully,
Valerie Face



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From jgshurt69 at aol.com  Fri Sep 23 22:46:20 2011
From: jgshurt69 at aol.com (jgshurt69 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:46:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] www.October2011.org
Message-ID: <8CE48946B8FE5BD-7FC-C3E37@webmail-m137.sysops.aol.com>

Hello Fellow Greens,

Please come to October2011.org in
San Francisco on October 6th at 3PM
US Federal Bldg (7th & Mission)

Please choose a speaker to address the assembly
at 4PM from among the county councils.

Jeffrey in san bruno


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 24 15:17:28 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:17:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Foothill college tabling
Message-ID: <4E7E56F8.2040608@sbcglobal.net>

Tabling volunteers needed for Foothill College on
Wednesday October 5-th.

The official notice says from  12 pm to 1 pm
but as we have seen in the past 10:30 am or 11 am
until 2 pm is about right.

Contact Jim Doyle to volunteer.



From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Sat Sep 24 19:01:01 2011
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:01:01 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Bank protest?
Message-ID: <4E7E8B5D.5090301@structuremonitoring.com>



       Are there protests against major banks this coming week?  I 
thought I saw announcements of planned actions, but I can't find them 
now.  If there are actions planned and any of you are planning to attend 
AND you'd like copies of the "No Credit Card Debt" trifold and bookmark, 
please let me know:  I will print some and we can discuss how I can get 
them to you.


       Thanks,
       Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Sat Sep 24 20:03:53 2011
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:03:53 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: www.October2011.org
In-Reply-To: <8CE4943167F3336-1C24-8F4A9@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CE4943167F3336-1C24-8F4A9@webmail-m048.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4E7E9A19.7030403@structuremonitoring.com>

Hello, All:


       Do the Santa Clara Greens want to send someone to address an 
assembly on Thursday, Oct. 6, 4 PM, at the Federal Building, 7th and 
Mission in San Francisco?


       Alternatively, is it feasible to try to organize something 
similar in the South Bay, e.g., petitioning the appropriate officials 
here for instant runoff voting?  This sounds to me like the best thing, 
but I don't have time or energy to organize any such event.


        Spencer


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Date: 	Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:36:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: 	jgshurt69 at aol.com
To: 	spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com




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Hello Fellow Greens,Please come to October2011.org inSan Francisco on
October 6th at 3PMUS Federal Bldg (7th&  Mission)Please choose a
speaker to address the assemblyat 4PM from among the county
councils.Jeffrey in san bruno


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 24 22:58:25 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 22:58:25 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] ... arrests continue ...
Message-ID: <4E7EC301.5090405@earthlink.net>


"at least eighty arrested"

https://occupywallst.org/

Gerry




From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 25 15:06:07 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:06:07 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpsmc-d] [Oakland Greens] To support the NYC
 protestors call: CONTACT THE...
In-Reply-To: <1316977987.42436.YahooMailRC@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <1316977987.42436.YahooMailRC@web83301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [gpsmc-d] [Oakland Greens] To support the NYC protestors
call: CONTACT THE...
Date: 	Sun, 25 Sep 2011 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	PATRICIA GRAY <patgray.green at sbcglobal.net>
To: 	Rev.Sandra Decker <revdecker at msn.com>, o greenlistserv
<oaklandgreens at yahoogroups.com>, Berktown GP
<berkeleygreens at lists.riseup.net>, ec greens <el-cerrito at cagreens.org>,
R Greens <richmondgreens at four.pairlist.net>, contra costa county greens
<cccounty at lists.riseup.net>, San Francisco Green Party
<sfgreenparty at yahoo.com>, Green Partysm <gpsmc-d at cagreens.org>



The events taking place are the beginning of the rebellion against the
policies of our Federal Government. There is a major demonstration and
stay there event planned for Oct. 6, 2011 in Washington D.C.

There is an event planned to coincide with this gathering on the 10th
anniversary of the attack on Afghanistan in San Francisco at the new
Federal Building at 7th and Mission from 3 to 6. We are gathering to
demand that our Federal government heed the voice of the people and END
THE WARS, TAX THE RICH, CARE FOR THE PEOPLE and PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.
There will be speakers on each of these four topics and an open mic for
people to speak up. This event is being put on by the newly forming 99%
Coalition. It would be great to have some Greens involved. We are
seeking speakers.

Oct. 6 2011, 3 to 6 pm at 7th and Mission St in San Francisco. Plan to
attend, it s a short couple of blocks from Bart Embarcadero.


------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* Rev.Sandra Decker <revdecker at msn.com>
*To:* o greenlistserv <oaklandgreens at yahoogroups.com>; Berktown GP
<berkeleygreens at lists.riseup.net>; ec greens <el-cerrito at cagreens.org>;
R Greens <richmondgreens at four.pairlist.net>; contra costa county greens
<cccounty at lists.riseup.net>; San Francisco Green Party
<sfgreenparty at yahoo.com>; Green Partysm <gpsmc-d at cagreens.org>
*Sent:* Sun, September 25, 2011 12:04:20 PM
*Subject:* FW: [Oakland Greens] To support the NYC protestors call:
CONTACT THE...


Samsarah Morgan posted in Oakland Greens
<http://www.facebook.com/n/?groups/45699879022/&id=10150305281134023&mid=4e87613G5af396375002G36ec21G96&bcode=7tXYkdTs&n_m=revdecker%40msn.com>.
To support the NYC protestors call: CONTACT...
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Samsarah Morgan
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5:42pm Sep 24

To support the NYC protestors call: CONTACT THE WHITE HOUSE: Comments:
202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 ask them why
this is happening with no media coverage... ask them why cops are pepper
spraying young girls directly in the face!


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From andid at cagreens.org  Sun Sep 25 15:21:39 2011
From: andid at cagreens.org (Andrea Dorey)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:21:39 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 2 Cal Democrat Scandals
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I'd like to add a blog.site to this trio of politically savvy Green-leaning friends.  I need help in setting one up.  I also will be adding material to the Humanist Community as I do the articles section of the newsletter.  But I need advice.  Anyone willing to give a start to this enterprise?  I'm reading the "For Dummies" book along with two other tomes from the library that are supposed to have the info I need.  Problem is, I use a Mac and often these books address PCs with windows.  Are there short courses around that could help me?  So far, Senior Centers and Libraries are not much help.
Comment?
Andrea

On Sep 19, 2011, at 2:37 PM, alexcathy at aol.com wrote:

> Dear Green Friends, 
> 
> The trouble with trying to be a Green blogger is that Wes Rolley, Martin Zehr, and I just cannot keep up with it. See below a link to my comment on two big Democratic Party Machine scandals screaming from the front page of Saturday's L.A. Times.
> 
> Alex Walker 
> LA Greens 
> 
> 
> 2 Cal Democrat Scandals - Why Have a Green Party? 
> Consider the Los Angeles Times front page below. Not one, but two major scandals rocked the California Democratic Party in the same week. Both involve big bucks from the Democrats' fat cat campaign donors. Moreover, the sscandal of the bankrupt Solyndra solar energy company helps retro Republicans attack Green Energy. 
> 
> Thanks a lot Democrats. Why have a Green Party? Tell me again how we don't need Greens, Peace & Freedom, Libertarians, and the A.I.P. because we have this great "choice" between "liberal" Democrats and "conservative" Republicans.
> 
> . . .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Read More and Please Leave a Comment at My Blog on California Greening: 
> http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2011/09/2-cal-democrat-scandals-why-have-green.html 
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 25 16:51:15 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:51:15 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] one minute speeches
Message-ID: <4E7FBE73.7050201@sbcglobal.net>

Here is an example of a situation in which our one minute
speeches could be used.

Hello Fellow Greens,Please come to October2011.org inSan Francisco on
October 6th at 3PMUS Federal Bldg (7th&  Mission)Please choose a
speaker to address the assemblyat 4PM from among the county
councils.Jeffrey in san bruno

Who wants to speak at this event?



From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 25 18:10:16 2011
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:10:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] one minute speeches
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Message-ID: <1316999416.71066.YahooMailNeo@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I don't think they would appreciate a one minute ad for http://www.peacemovies.com , but if you insist...


From: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>
To: sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] one minute speeches

Here is an example of a situation in which our one minute
speeches could be used.

Hello Fellow Greens,Please come to October2011.org inSan Francisco on
October 6th at 3PMUS Federal Bldg (7th&? Mission)Please choose a
speaker to address the assemblyat 4PM from among the county
councils.Jeffrey in san bruno

Who wants to speak at this event?

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 26 11:39:36 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:39:36 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] ... arrests continue ...
Message-ID: <4E80C6E8.5090002@earthlink.net>


And the arrests continue ...
with excessive force ...

I also recommend the multipart interview with Chris Hedges.

https://occupywallst.org/

Gerry


P.S. Don't forget, the October action is coming soon:

http://october2011.org/



From tnharter at aceweb.com  Mon Sep 26 12:26:01 2011
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:26:01 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: corporate personhood
Message-ID: <4E80D1C9.5020607@aceweb.com>

Fred sent an email to this list. I cut out the good part and pasted it
below. For more, look on truthout!

____________________Begin forwarded material.______________________
Local Resistance to Corporate Personhood Wages Crucial, if Symbolic, Battle
Sunday 25 September 2011
by: Britney Schultz, Truthout | Report


Move to Amend protestors demonstrating in Washington DC, January 21, 
2011. (Photo:takomabibelot)

In the 2010 US Supreme Court case, Citizens United v. Federal Election 
Commission, the judges of the highest court in the land narrowly ruled 
that corporations were "people" with First Amendment free speech rights. 
The corollary of this judgment is that corporations, as "persons," have 
the right to contribute unlimited funds to political campaigns as an 
exercise of their free speech.

On the one-year anniversary of the landmark decision, a survey conducted 
by Hart Research found that only 22 percent of American voters were even 
familiar with the Citizens United case. However, the same study showed 
that nearly four in five (79 percent) of Americans were in favor of 
passing an amendment to overturn the decision and clarify that 
corporations should not have the same rights as people.

Accordingly, numerous groups have pushed for action in response to the 
case - and some have met with recent success, particularly at the local 
level. One such organization, the national Move to Amendcampaign, has 
approached the issue by mobilizing grassroots activism and calling for 
an amendment to the US Constitution to establish that only human beings, 
not corporations, are entitled to constitutional rights, and that the 
First Amendment does not protect unlimited political spending as free 
speech.

The organization states that its first priority this year is to help 
organize communities aiming to pass localresolutions.

On August 16, the City Council of Boulder, Colorado, voted to place a 
referendum on this year's November ballot calling for the US 
Constitution to be amended to reflect that corporations are not people 
and money does not equal speech.

However, according to the leading proponent of the measure, Carolyn 
Bninski, it was an uphill battle with the city council. "City council 
was divided from the start; some said it wasn't a 'local' issue, so we 
didn't have any business putting it out there for voters to decide - 
basically they called it a waste of time," Bninski said.

Additionally, Bninski cited opposition from council members on grounds 
that the language of the resolution was too vague and may harm 
nonprofits and other organizations that are also protected under the 
umbrella term "corporation."

Bninski is a leading volunteer of the committee that is organizing the 
Issue 2H campaign, and says that the issue is about more than just 
getting people to pass a referendum in Boulder. "This isn't just about 
Boulder overturning the decision made in the Citizens United case," she 
said. "It's about educating people and getting them involved in our 
political process to reclaim our democracy."

Even if the measure passes this fall, however, the success would only be 
symbolic. An amendment to the US Constitution requires a two-thirds 
supermajority in both the House and Senate and ratification by 
three-quarters of state Legislatures. Another route to amending the 
Constitution would be to call for a Convention of the US Legislature by 
two-thirds of the state Legislatures, followed by ratification of the 
amendment by three-quarters of the states.

Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap, a member of the Move to Amend Executive 
Committee, pointed out the substantial power of a symbolic document such 
as a local resolution. "The Declaration of Independence was also once 
just a symbolic document," she said. "But it was the foundation of this 
country, and it sparked a revolution."

Not every community has faced the difficulties that Boulder has in 
proposing similar ballot measures.

Cynthia Wolken, a member of city council in Missoula, Montana, was the 
driving force behind presenting a resolution to her fellow council 
members.  Wolken put forward a resolution in August, after voicing 
concern about the influence of money in Montana's politics and the use 
of political action committees (PACs) to control elections.

"[City council] could have just passed a resolution stating that 
Missoula does not recognize corporations as human beings at a meeting 
without calling for the issue to go to the ballot, but the public would 
likely not even be aware of it," Wolken said "I wanted to use the 
opportunity to educate people and show unity in our community that 
Missoula supports amending the US Constitution."

Missoula's referendum on this November's ballot comes at a time when 
Montana's corporate finance laws are at a crossroads.

Wednesday, September 21, the Montana Supreme Court heard oral arguments 
from "friends of the court" in order to decide whether to toss out the 
state's century-old state ban on direct corporate spending for or 
against the candidates.

The main conservative lobbying group challenging the law, the American 
Tradition Partnership (ATP), has deemed the ban "unconstitutional," 
since the 2010 Citizens United ruling states that the federal government 
could not ban political spending in elections by corporations, and 
federal law trumps state law.

Montana's Supreme Court justices were skeptical of keeping the state law 
in place because it conflicted with federal law, but also voiced concern 
about the plaintiff's own evasive political activities, including ATP's 
lawsuit against state laws that require groups to disclose how they 
spend their campaigncontributions.

Montana has a history of corruption in politics. The "Copper Kings" were 
the copper mining industry special interests that exercised undue 
influence in the state's electoral politics in the late 1890s and early 
1900s. In response, the state passed the Montana Corrupt Practices Act 
of 1912 to limit corporate power.

Montana is one of 24 states in the country to have state laws regarding 
campaign finance limits. The state's ban does not exclude PACs from the 
election process, however, and corporations can still funnel influence 
into campaigns through this route.

A spokesman for the Montana Supreme Court said that the date the court 
would reach a decision was unclear at this time.

The Montana Attorney General's office did not return calls for comment.

"This case is just the tip of the iceberg," Wolken said. "There will be 
a lot of lawsuits filed against other states with such campaign finance 
laws."
____________________End forwarded material.______________________
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
This article is a fascinating look at the likely future of oil use:
http://www.postcarbon.org/blog-post/508186-the-peak-oil-crisis-the-german
The screw from mile 81 of Bike The Limits is now on a 1998 quarter.


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 26 15:35:29 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:35:29 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Wangari Maathai, R.I.P.
Message-ID: <4E80FE31.7040402@earthlink.net>


The founder of the Green Party of Kenya died yesterday.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/26-16

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wangari_Maathai

Gerry



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 26 15:53:45 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:53:45 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tar Sands Action
Message-ID: <4E810279.1000201@earthlink.net>


Today in Ottawa:
(parliament, over 200 arrested)

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/26-9
http://ottawaaction.ca/
http://www.tarsandsaction.org/

========================

Nov. 6 in D.C.
(surround the White House)

http://www.tarsandsaction.org/

========================

Gerry



From alexcathy at aol.com  Tue Sep 27 11:31:55 2011
From: alexcathy at aol.com (alexcathy at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:31:55 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Help Wanted! Graphics Artist
Message-ID: <8CE4B5ADE342592-3094-B6170@webmail-m009.sysops.aol.com>


Dear Friends,

The time has come for Green Party activists to get ready for the 2012 California elections.One thing we will need are good cartoons, caricatures, graphics expressing theissues in California highlighting the contrast between the Green Party and the 2 Titanic Parties.

The graphic below is from the lead story of the Black Agenda Report,America's leading web site for news, commentary, and analysis from the Black Left.I think this graphic exquisitely expresses the growing revulsion among manyAfrican-Americans like me, with the smugness of Democratic Party "Obamamaniacs."

Posted on The Black Agenda Report, September 21, 2001
Barack Obama VS Those Craaaazy Republicans: Is He the Lesser Evil, or the More Effective Evil?
By Bruce A. Dixon, BAR managing editor and a state committee member in the Georgia Green Party



Of course, Bruce Dixon is writing for a national audience. In my opinion the most important mission of the Green Partyhere in California and in every other state is to build an independent progressive force at thestate and local level -- especially in the One-Party Democraticcoastal cities.  

What we need for inner-city Los Angeles campaigns are the services of agraphics artist to produce a similar graphic substitutingimages for Governor Jerry Brown, Senator Diane Feinstein, andLos Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa for the image of President Obama.

If you can help me. Please read more and leave a comment on my blog atCalifornia Greening or e-mail me directly:
Web Site: http://cagreening.blogspot.com/2011/09/help-wanted-green-california-graphics.html
E-Mail: AlexCathy at aol.com.
 


 
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 27 14:03:18 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:03:18 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GNC Delegate or Alternate Seats
Message-ID: <4E823A16.7070904@sbcglobal.net>

GREEN PARTY COUNTY CONTACTS MESSAGE

This is an announcement from the GPCA Contact List. 
For more information, or questions related to the topic of the posting,
please do not hit reply.  Follow the contact directions
stated in the email.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

REMINDER
<mailto:applications at cagreens.org>
/*HOW TO APPLY FOR A Green National Committee (GNC)
DELEGATE OR ALTERNATE SEAT:*

Dear Greens,

The Green Party of California is always looking for interested California
Greens to serve at the national level of the Green Party (GPUS). The only
strict requirement is that you be a registered Green in California.

We prefer those who have served in some capacity at the stateand/or county
party level and will ask for a referral from a state or county 
representative,
if we're not familiar with your Green Party activity. We strongly encourage
those who self-identify as a minority, whether by region, gender, 
ethnicity,
race, sexual orientation, or disability.

GPUS is in the process of computing another apportionment and the size 
of the
National Committee is being decreased from 200 to 150, so we anticipate 
that
our delegation size will reduce to about 25. We are able to have as many
as Alternate seats...though 15-20 is more realistic.///
/
There will be elections by the General Assembly at the GPCA Plenary in
December 3-4 currently planned for about six of those delegate seats, by 
IRV,
with about twice as many alternate seats open. //We expect that//some of 
the
three delegates and four alternates whose terms are up will reapply.
//According to our by-laws, we need your bios/applications two months 
//before
the plenary so please send it as soon as possible or by October 3. /
/
/
/Please mail your candidate statement to //applications at cagreens.org/
<mailto:applications at cagreens.org>/

Your statement should include biographical information about positions,
experience, skills, and/or service that you have had (both within and 
outside
of the Green Party), along with your vision or commitment for the position.
  (Please see statements submitted by previous candidates for examples, 
here:
//http://cagreens.org/delegates/election///. /
/NEW APPLICATIONS FOR DELEGATE WILL BE POSTED WITH A
LINK FROM THAT PAGE AS WELL.

On that page you will also find links to an editable application
- application for delegate position
<//http://www.cagreens.org/delegates/election/application_gpus_delegation.rtf// 


delegate job description as described by GPCA Bylaws
<//http://www.cagreens.org/delegates/election/notice_gpus_delegation_2007.php//> 


Please indicate whether you are applying to be a delegate or an alternate.

It is helpful if you are familiar with the delegate and alternate duties,
guidelines, and expectations, which are listed on our state
party website 
at://http://www.cagreens.org/delegates/delegate_guidelines.shtml//

Of course, please be sure to forward this message to all relevant local and
county listserves and e-mail lists!  And thanks in advance for helping 
us to
maintain California's delegation to the national party!  If you have any
questions, feel free to contact me at sanda at greens.org 
<mailto:sanda at greens.org>
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 27 14:06:06 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:06:06 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Pages
Message-ID: <4E823ABE.5090108@sbcglobal.net>

The bundle of Green Pages we ordered has arrived.

The first shipment was incorrectly addressed to the house
across the street from mine.  We occassionally talk to those
neighbors but we do not know them by name nor they us.



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 27 14:43:43 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:43:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] one minute speeches in San Francisco
Message-ID: <4E82438F.1010807@sbcglobal.net>

My original notice

*Here is an example of a situation in which our one minute
speeches could be used.

Hello Fellow Greens,Please come to October2011.org inSan Francisco on
October 6th at 3PMUS Federal Bldg (7th&  Mission)Please choose a
speaker to address the assemblyat 4PM from among the county
councils.Jeffrey in san bruno

Who wants to speak at this event?
*
did not have full information at the time as to requested topics
nor did I lay out my reasoning which would have been

here is an opportunity to put to work the practice
we have had with one minute speeches.

For this event one or more of us could prepare a speech -
one which need not be limited to one minute - on one of the
proposed  topics:

END THE WARS, 
TAX THE RICH, 
CARE FOR THE PEOPLE and 
PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT.


 From the later notification:

There will be speakers on each of these four topics 
and an open mic for people to speak up. This event is 
being put on by the newly forming 99% Coalition. 

It would be great to have some Greens involved. We are
seeking speakers.

Oct. 6 2011, 3 to 6 pm at 7th and Mission St in San Francisco. 
Plan to attend, it s a short couple of blocks from Bart Embarcadero.
-------

So, in my opinion, this is a wonderful opportunity for 
some Greens to speak to a presumably larger gathering.







From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Sep 27 17:30:20 2011
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:30:20 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Underwater riding, underground looking
Message-ID: <4E826A9C.3050805@aceweb.com>

A week ago there was another bike party. This time the theme was under 
water:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/BikeParty/UnderwaterRide/index.html

The next day there was a fascinating view of underground San Francisco:

http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/ClimateJustice/SewerTour/index.html

My big regret of the past couple of weeks is that I didn't take my 
camera with me on Saturday for Diane Solomon's 350.org moving planet
bike ride. It featured a nice stop at the Backestro Park chalk festival,
which was heart warming and a good fundraiser for local arts education.
That was followed by the San Jose Peace Center's "NO WAR! NO WARMING!"
peace pole unveiling. That was also a touching event with several nice
sights. I didn't take my camera because my front page is so dominated
by bike rides I couldn't face adding another one. Now I'm looking for
something else to take pictures of. If you have any good ideas let me 
know. The days when another peace demonstration was just around the 
corner seem to be behind us.
-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
This article is a fascinating look at the likely future of oil use:
http://www.postcarbon.org/blog-post/508186-the-peak-oil-crisis-the-german
The screw from mile 81 of Bike The Limits is now on a 1998 quarter.


From fredlois2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 14:52:22 2011
From: fredlois2 at gmail.com (fred Duperrault)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:52:22 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] one minute speeches in San Francisco
In-Reply-To: <4E82438F.1010807@sbcglobal.net>
References: <4E82438F.1010807@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <953968AC-145B-4D63-A37A-6EE6FE066D8B@gmail.com>

Good message, Jim.


AN ADDITION TO YOUR PROPOSED TOPICS I SUGGEST,  "DETHRONE THE  
CORPORATIONS!"


On Sep 27, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:

> My original notice
>
> *Here is an example of a situation in which our one minute
> speeches could be used.
>
> Hello Fellow Greens,Please come to October2011.org inSan Francisco on
> October 6th at 3PMUS Federal Bldg (7th&  Mission)Please choose a
> speaker to address the assemblyat 4PM from among the county
> councils.Jeffrey in san bruno
>
> Who wants to speak at this event?
> *
> did not have full information at the time as to requested topics
> nor did I lay out my reasoning which would have been
>
> here is an opportunity to put to work the practice
> we have had with one minute speeches.
>
> For this event one or more of us could prepare a speech -
> one which need not be limited to one minute - on one of the
> proposed  topics:
>
> END THE WARS, TAX THE RICH, CARE FOR THE PEOPLE, PROTECT THE  
> ENVIRONMENT and  DETHRONE THE  CORPORATIONS.
>
>
> From the later notification:
>
> There will be speakers on each of these four topics and an open mic  
> for people to speak up. This event is being put on by the newly  
> forming 99% Coalition.
> It would be great to have some Greens involved. We are
> seeking speakers.
>
> Oct. 6 2011, 3 to 6 pm at 7th and Mission St in San Francisco. Plan  
> to attend, it s a short couple of blocks from Bart Embarcadero.
> -------
>
> So, in my opinion, this is a wonderful opportunity for some Greens  
> to speak to a presumably larger gathering.
>
>
>
>
>
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> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Sep 28 15:17:14 2011
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:17:14 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Great DVD - Studs Terkel
Message-ID: <4E839CEA.3060301@charter.net>

One of my childhood memories was listening to Studs Terkel on the 
radio.  Every Sunday, as church let out and my parents lined up to shake 
hands with the minister, I would grab my Dad's car keys and race to the 
car to turn on the radio and get my education in the folk music of the 
world.  This was in the very early 1950's.  Studs introduced me to the 
Weavers, Woodie Guthrie, Jean Redpath, John Jacob Niles, Leadbelly, 
Mehalia Jackson and many more.

The Santa Clara County Library has 2 copies of an HBO Documentary, Studs 
Terkel: Listening to America. (41 min)  I just finished watching it and 
highly recommend it to all.   He was unique, a one of a kind journalist 
and historian and the documentary captures for all.  The copies are 
available in Morgan Hill and Milpitas but can be gotten at any branch 
just by requesting.

His was a standard of truth seeking curiosity that, for all the programs 
with have today, we just don't see / hear.   I recently passed on my 
copies of Hard Times and Division Street because other should have the 
opportunity to find what he discovered about us as Americans.

Terkel passed away on Oct. 31, 2008 at the age of 96.


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 28 17:32:57 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:32:57 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Fwd: Google Alert - Sanda Everette
In-Reply-To: <CAP3OKwE0GQFRwMvNg0YA2nP=-cdDdZHT8M7jY95Vbwo0V18TRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAP3OKwE0GQFRwMvNg0YA2nP=-cdDdZHT8M7jY95Vbwo0V18TRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E83BCB9.6060209@earthlink.net>


FYI,

Gerry


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[gpca-forum] Fwd: Google Alert - Sanda Everette
Date: 	Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:01:43 -0700
From: 	Sanda Everette <sanda.greensolutions at gmail.com>
To: 	gpca-forum <gpca-forum at cagreens.org>




I thought some of you might find this interesting.


__*News*__	*3* new results for *Sanda Everette*

Green Party of the US endorses, joins 'October 2011' protest *...*
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.greenpartywatch.org/2011/09/27/green-party-of-the-us-endorses-joins-%25E2%2580%2598october-2011%25E2%2580%2599-protest-against-the-afghanistan-and-iraq-wars-and-2012-austerity-budget/&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATAAOABA7YaN9ARIAVgBYgVlbi1VUw&cd=4O8UoyqOL-U&usg=AFQjCNHJFyFyDiT4G3ZQnvrgQLcsC_lLjA>
Green Party Watch
Echoing the call from October2011.org, the press release quotes *Sanda
Everette* of California. ?In making this endorsement, we're challenging
the dangerous *...*
U.S. Green Party fuels D.C. occupation for peaceful revolution
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/u-s-green-party-fuels-d-c-occupation-for-peaceful-revolution&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATABOAFA7YaN9ARIAVgBYgVlbi1VUw&cd=4O8UoyqOL-U&usg=AFQjCNFZwRrQsdSa7BAzC2kOFfx4p1BOnQ>
Examiner.com
*Sanda Everette*, member of the Coordinating Committee of the Green
Party of California and former co-chair of the Green Party of the US
stated that the Green *...*
Green Party of the US endorses, joins 'October 2011' protest *...*
<http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php%3FID%3D450&ct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATACOAJA7YaN9ARIAVgBYgVlbi1VUw&cd=4O8UoyqOL-U&usg=AFQjCNFxFa_nGyCAKlph76qd-WaNbbgD3w>
Green Party US
*...* said *Sanda Everette*, member of the Coordinating Committee of the
Green Party of California and former co-chair of the Green Party of the
United States. *...*


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 28 17:37:28 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:37:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] obama's explanatiosn
Message-ID: <4E83BDC8.70207@sbcglobal.net>

US President Barack Obama has blamed the wave of uprisings
across the Middle East for the sluggish recovery of the country's
sclerotic economy.

?The changes that have taken place in the Middle East sent
oil prices up, and that gave a shock to the world economy,?
the US commander-in-chief alleged in Washington on Wednesday.

-------
That man is in deep trouble.
-----
Jim Doyle



From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Sep 28 21:15:44 2011
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:15:44 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: It's a Hard-Knock Butterfly's Life
In-Reply-To: <0ebaeb14fdbf5dc65289113c1a76b8c54d6.20110929022558@mail44.us1.mcsv.net>
References: <0ebaeb14fdbf5dc65289113c1a76b8c54d6.20110929022558@mail44.us1.mcsv.net>
Message-ID: <4E83F0F0.6000801@charter.net>

I just read Hansen's essay at the link in this note.  The future look 
more grey than Green.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	It's a Hard-Knock Butterfly's Life
Date: 	Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:26:09 -0400
From: 	James Hansen <jimehansen at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	James Hansen <jimehansen at gmail.com>
To: 	<wrolley at charter.net>



Email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. 
<http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0ebaeb14fdbf5dc65289113c1&id=566bc1059e&e=a76b8c54d6> 

*It's a Hard-Knock Butterfly's Life*


Can a Lady Monarch Provide a Role Model?  Read my latest discussion 
<http://columbia.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=0ebaeb14fdbf5dc65289113c1&id=6854ea6d53&e=a76b8c54d6> 
posted on my web site.


~Jim

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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Sep 28 21:20:21 2011
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:20:21 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpus-ecoaction] Statement of Support for
 Cornell GLI & Labor Unions Just Released Report on Keystone
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [gpus-ecoaction] Statement of Support for Cornell GLI & 
Labor Unions Just Released Report on Keystone
Date: 	Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:47:54 -0400
From: 	Gloria Mattera <gmattera at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	gpus-ecoaction at lists.riseup.net
To: 	gpus-ecoaction at lists.riseup.net
CC: 	ok greens <okgreens at yahoogroups.com>



All,

Have also sent this message to national party media team.

In addition to calling Obama and elected reps - the party can show 
concrete support for and publicize this important report tht was just 
released.

Cornell University Global Labor Institute has just come out with a 
damaging report against Keystone.
Here is the 
link.http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitute/research/upload/GLI_KeystoneXL_Reportpdf.pdf
This is important because it is coming from a labor connected and labor 
movement source.

It has been long in the making and Sean Sweeney and the team at GLI have 
been able to get a few unions,
Amalgamated Transit Union &  Transit Workers Union in addition to Bill 
McKibbon and Naomi Klein among others,
to sign on to an accompanying letter to ask other labor leaders to sign 
on in opposition.

The report, circulated today in the press, is already causing 
controversy.  Previous to its release, several powerful
unions who are under the wrong impression that there will be many union 
jobs, are coming out publicly against
the brave transport unions that have spoken against the pipeline.

The industry is on the attack.  Reporters are calling to ask for a 
response to all of cornell faculty being called liars.

It would be important for the National Green Party to issue a statement 
supporting both cornell and the unions that
are smart enough to see the disaster of Keystone and the false claims of 
being good for jobs.

Not sure how this works but obviously it needs to be done in a short 
time to be part of the initial controversy and then
perhaps something more comprehensive can be put together.  Any 
suggestions or guidance on how GP can get
show support and promote the party's position on this important 
environmental issue?

thanks,
Gloria Mattera
NYS
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From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Thu Sep 29 14:20:33 2011
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:20:33 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] something else to take pictures of
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1317236401.7649.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
References: <mailman.1.1317236401.7649.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <1317331233.1755.195.camel@robs-laptop>

Tian (and others),

Please consider the Occupy San Jose event this Sunday at noon:
http://occupytogether.org/events/west/occupy-san-jose/

It is a spin-off from the Occupy Wall Street event in New York that has
been going on for nearly two weeks.  The common thread linking nearly 76
(and counting) Occupy events is that 99% of Americans are being screwed
by the top 1%.    http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/

-- 
Rob Means,1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
408-262-0420h, 408-262-8975w, rob.means at electric-bikes.com



> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:30:20 -0700
> From: Tian Harter <tnharter at aceweb.com>
> To: Post South SF Bay discus <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Underwater riding, underground looking
> Message-ID: <4E826A9C.3050805 at aceweb.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> A week ago there was another bike party. This time the theme was under 
> water:
> 
> http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/BikeParty/UnderwaterRide/index.html
> 
> The next day there was a fascinating view of underground San Francisco:
> 
> http://tian.greens.org/SanFrancisco/ClimateJustice/SewerTour/index.html
> 
> My big regret of the past couple of weeks is that I didn't take my 
> camera with me on Saturday for Diane Solomon's 350.org moving planet
> bike ride. It featured a nice stop at the Backestro Park chalk festival,
> which was heart warming and a good fundraiser for local arts education.
> That was followed by the San Jose Peace Center's "NO WAR! NO WARMING!"
> peace pole unveiling. That was also a touching event with several nice
> sights. I didn't take my camera because my front page is so dominated
> by bike rides I couldn't face adding another one. Now I'm looking for
> something else to take pictures of. If you have any good ideas let me 
> know. The days when another peace demonstration was just around the 
> corner seem to be behind us.
> -- 
> Tian




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 29 15:46:08 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:46:08 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] holiday peace fair
Message-ID: <4E84F530.1040407@sbcglobal.net>

First Holiday Peace Fair planning and decision meeting  THIS COMING 
SATURDAY,
October 1, at 10 AM at the San Jose Peace and Justice Center,

In order to get the flyer and other publicity started, we need to make 
at least two major
decisions at this meeting or VERY SOON afterwards. 
PLEASE SEND YOUR INPUT for the decision-making if you or someone else from
your organization cannot attend the meeting.

1) The best location and date we have found to have the HPF are the 
second floor
Great Room (huge) of SEIU Local 521 (county workers union) at 2302 
Zanker Road,
San Jose, on Saturday 12/10.

2) We need to decide on the beneficiary organizations (local and 
international). 
Last year we gave to four organizations total -- may go back to only two 
total if we can
agree on which two. Suggestions welcome -- before the meeting if your 
organization
cannot be represented this Saturday.

3) We'll also discuss the plan for entertainment and several other matters.
If you have any comments/ideas that may not have been included in your
organization's evaluation form after last year's HPF, please email those
 immediately if possible or call Joan Goddard  408-396-8039.




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 29 15:51:58 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:51:58 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] update on holiday peace fair
Message-ID: <4E84F68E.1060202@sbcglobal.net>

One more HPF location option has been found.
the Immanuel Lutheran Church hall - We used that space a few years ago
but a refundable deposit of $1000 is required for reserving the space.

IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS of a place with a very large hall
(more than 300 square feet) and one or two additional smaller rooms,
 please contact Joan G (reply to this email or 408-396-8039) today or
Friday if possible (later if necessary). Thank you!



From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 29 15:57:23 2011
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:57:23 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] holiday peace fair tabling
Message-ID: <4E84F7D3.4050709@sbcglobal.net>

Do we have a representative who will attend the HPF
planning meeting?

Will we table there again this year?

Last year we had some help from high school students.
Can we expect the same this year?
Do we need any special preparations should a student
ask to help?  The ones lst year had a communiity service
assignment.



From vdf at juno.com  Thu Sep 29 17:24:30 2011
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:24:30 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [G-C-F] Plan to build 2 New Turf Fields in South
	San Jose!
Message-ID: <20110929.172430.15199.0@webmail57.vgs.untd.com>

Just saw this message.  The meeting on this starts in 38 minutes.

Best wishes,
Valerie

Please note: forwarded message attached

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FYI, tomorrow (Thursday) at 6pm, there is a community meeting
to discuss the plan to install two artificial fields at the Steinbeck
School in San Jose, in case someone might be interested in
voicing their concerns.

   Sponsored by:
        Councilmember Nancy Pyle
        San Jos? Unified School District and
        Department of Parks, Recreation and Neighborhood Services

    Subject:
        Sports Field Improvements
        Community Meeting for the
        Allen at Steinbeck

    Time and Location:

        Thursday, September 29, 2011

        6-7pm

        Allen @ Steinbeck Elementary School

        820 Steinbeck Drive
        at the Indoor Commons

Best,
Amir Farrahi


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Amir Farrahi <afarrahi at acm.org>
Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [SSJ-Info] ****Reminder for tomorrow, THURSDAY NIGHT, 6pm at
Allen at Steinbeck*****2 NEW TURF Fields in South San Jose!
To: "Semone, Jeff" <jeff.semone at stryker.com>
Cc: "ssj-info at ssjysl.org" <ssj-info at ssjysl.org>


Folks,

The information and resources available at the following links provide
additional
material and references on the subject of potential drawbacks, maintenance
costs, and health concerns associated with artificial turf, as compared to
natural
grass:

        http://www.turfgrasssod.org/
        http://www.turfgrasssod.org/pages/consumer-resources/

http://www.turfgrasssod.org/files/file/2e0d8bf4-da79-4de9-b988-abeb60ee8fbd
(save and view as a  .pdf file)

I know that this might be a sensitive issue on which reasonable people may
disagree
with me.  However, I felt that I need to share my concerns with the
community, and
help raise awareness about potential concerns related to health risks,
negative
environmental impact, and increased potential for severe bruises and joint
injuries
with other members of the community so as to allow the community to hear the

arguments against the installation of artificial turfs, as well.


Best,
Amir Farrahi

-------------


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Amir Farrahi <afarrahi at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi Jeff and All,
>
> As a member of the community, a parent, and a soccer enthusiast, who has
> been
> playing soccer for over 35 years now and continues to do so several times a
> week
> until this day, I would like to voice my strong opposition to this turf
> initiative.  There
> are numerous studies that point to the negative aspects of synthetic turfs,
> from many
> different perspectives from environmental, to toxicity, to heath, to
> increased strain
> on joints and other injuries.
>
> Below is an email I sent to some folks in our local league in the Almaden
> area with
> a few links that I collected when the subject of artificial turf came up
> during a meeting,
> for those who would like to consider the arguments against installation of
> (artificial) turf
> fields.
>
> I have not looked further since, but I am sure more recent articles and
> studies can
> be found on the subject that shed light on potential health, environmental
> and other
> drawbacks associated with turf fields, as compared to natural grass.  I do
> not have
> any problems with lights, but I feel it should not be bundled with a turf
> field, and in
> fact I feel there is something sinister about any such bundling, in effect
> to sugar-coat
> the negative aspects of a turf field with and make the community swallow
> the pill that
> in my humble opinion and based on my understanding and looking into the
> matter is
> not beneficial at all to the greater community.  Here is just one out of
> many links provided
> below (feel free to checkout the rest):
>
>         14) http://www.ehhi.org/reports/turf/health_effects.shtml
>               Environment and Human Health, Inc.
>               Artificial Turf: Exposures to Ground Up Rubber Tires -
> Athletic Fields, Playgrounds, Garden Mulch
>               SUMMARY OF TOXIC ACTIONS
>
>               In summary, the toxic actions of concern from the materials
> that were
>               released from recycled crumb rubber include:
>
>                * Severe irritation of the respiratory system
>                * Severe irritation of the eyes, skin and mucous membranes
>                * Systemic effects on the liver and kidneys
>                * Neurotoxic responses
>                * Allergic reactions
>                * Cancers
>                * Developmental effects
>
>
> Best,
> Amir Farrahi. PhD
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> "Most of us," said the cosmic humorist, "go through life not knowing what
>  we want, but feeling darned sure this isn't it.".
>
>                                                           -- Ken Keyes, Jr.
>                                                              Handbook to
> Higher Consciousness
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>         From:    Amir Farrahi (afarrahi at acm.org>
>         Date:     Mon., Mar 24, 2008at 8:25 AM
>         Subject: More on Synthetic Turf
>
>         Hi David,
>
>         As promised, here are some articles regarding certain health and
> environmental
>         concerns associated with synthetic turfs:
>
>         1) Risk on Injury on Artificial Turf and Grass
>             http://bjsm.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/41/suppl_1/i33
>             Summary of my concern, quoted from this page:
>             ... In matches, the incidence of serious injuries was
> significantly higher on
>                artificial turf (RR 2.0, 95% CI 1.3 to 3.2; p = 0.03).
> Ankle sprain was the
>             most common type of injury (34% of all acute injuries), and
> there was a
>             trend towards more ankle sprains on artificial turf than on
> grass
>
>         2) Artificial Turf and Health Concerns
>
> http://www.wellesleyma.gov/pages/WellesleyMA_SpragueResources/3%20Articles%20-%20Artificial%20Turf%20and%20Health%20Concerns.doc
>
>         3) The Risk of Injuries playing in Artificial Turfs vs. Grass
>             http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:16990444
>             Notable excerpt:    ... The higher incidence of ankle sprain on
> artificial turf
>             warrants further attention, though this result should be
> interpreted with
>             caution since the number of ankle sprains was low.
>
>         4) *Risk of Knee and Ankle Sprains under Various Weather
> Conditions in American Football*
>
> http://www.acsm-msse.org/pt/re/msse/abstract.00005768-200307000-00008.htm
>             Notable excerpt:   ...Results: There was reduced risk of
> significant ankle sprains
>             (at least 7-d time loss) for games in natural grass stadiums
> compared with domes
>             (indoor stadiums using AstroTurf) (RR 0.69, 95% CI 0.58-0.83).
> There was also
>             reduced risk of significant knee sprains on grass compared with
> domes
>
>         5)
> http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/03/25/turf_wars_heat_up_grass_vs_synthetic/
>         6)
> http://www.turfgrasssod.org/webarticles/anmviewer.asp?a=131&z=36
>         7)
> http://www.turfgrasssod.org/webarticles/anmviewer.asp?a=130&z=36
>         8) http://www.turfgrasssod.org/pdfs/SyntheticTurfIndustry.pdf
>         9) http://www.turfgrasssod.org/pdfs/ArtificialTurfBooklet.pdf
>         10)
> http://new.turfgrasssod.org/pdfs/Surface_Comparison_Heat_Study__F.pdf
>         11)
> http://new.turfgrasssod.org/pdfs/Recorded_Temperature_Comparisons_Chart.pdf
>
>         Additionally, this survey of professional football players and
> their
>         preference towards grass or artificial turf is really interesting:
>
>         12)
> http://www.turfgrasssod.org/webarticles/articlefiles/130-NFLPA_Players_Playing_Surface_Survey.pdf
>
>         13)
> http://www.athleticturf.net/athleticturf/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=525751
>              Center for Environmental Health (CEH) says lead problem in
> synthetic turf goes beyond sports turf
>              June 24, 2008
>
>              Children playing on artificial grass can be exposed when lead
> from turf wipes off
>              onto their hands (from hand-to-mouth behaviors), and young
> children may be more at
>              risk since they are more likely to swallow turf material.
> Children can also be exposed
>              when turf degrades in the sun and releases lead-tainted dust
>
>         14) http://www.ehhi.org/reports/turf/health_effects.shtml
>               Environment and Human Health, Inc.
>               Artificial Turf: Exposures to Ground Up Rubber Tires -
> Athletic Fields, Playgrounds, Garden Mulch
>               SUMMARY OF TOXIC ACTIONS
>
>               In summary, the toxic actions of concern from the materials
> that were
>               released from recycled crumb rubber include:
>
>                * Severe irritation of the respiratory system
>                * Severe irritation of the eyes, skin and mucous membranes
>                * Systemic effects on the liver and kidneys
>                * Neurotoxic responses
>                * Allergic reactions
>                * Cancers
>                * Developmental effects
>
>         15)
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-astroturf-lead15-2009aug15,0,157632.story
>
>                Under the agreement, AstroTurf agreed to reformulate its
> products to
> *               reduce traces of lead (NOT ELIMINATE IT? WHAT THE F&*^???)
> *.
>                Lead had been used to keep green colors from fading over
> time.
> **
>
>                Other than lead, there are likely many other health concerns
> with artificial
>                turf that needs to be looked at closely.  This part in
> interesting to know:
>
>                California decided to take action against the three
> companies after
>                it received a legal notice from an advocacy group,
> Oakland-based Center
>                for Environmental Health, that it intended to file a private
> lawsuit on
>                the lead-warning issue.
>
>
>         As I mentioned, I have played soccer for over 30 years and continue
> to
>         do so a few times a week.  I have played on many types of fields,
> including
>         hard courts such as asphalt, gravel, as well as grass, and
> synthetic turf.
>         My personal experience is that there is a higher risk of injury on
> synthetic
>         turf because of the unnatural feeling and instability of the
> surface, and
>         I have felt extra pressure on my knee and ankles on such fields,
> even though
>         the surface is much more level.  A couple of my friends whom I've
> talked to
>         also told me that they feel much more pressure on their joints when
> playing
>         on synthetic turf.  Same thing is clearly reflected by the result
> of the surveys
>         conducted and summarized in item 12 above on American Football
> players
>         and their preference.
>
>         As I said, I would be happy to attend an AVYSL board meeting and
> discuss
>         my concerns, if you think that it would help.  I think there is
> enough serious
>         concern regarding the synthetic turfs for me as a parent and a
> member of
>         the community to be highly disappointed when I hear that these
> fields are
>         the "best fields for our kids to play on" (and therefore we should
> raise more
>         money to pay for the ability to have our kids play on them), when
> there seem
>         to be growing number of people and studies pointing the other way.
>
>
>         Best,
>         Amir Farrahi
>
> ------------
>
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Semone, Jeff <jeff.semone at stryker.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello again!  If you can, PLEASE Be there, we need our city leadership to
>> see our support!****
>>
>> ****
>>
>>             The League needs your support!  There is an opportunity for us
>> to have 2 FULL-SIZE turf fields with lights added within the boundary of
>> our League, and we need your support to have it constructed!  Please plan on
>> bringing your family, friends and neighbors with you to show the City of San
>> Jose we support this plan:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thursday, September 29, 2011****
>>
>> 6-7pm****
>>
>> Allen @ Steinbeck Elementary School****
>>
>> 820 Steinbeck Drive****
>>
>> at the Indoor Commons****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> See you there!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Jeff Semone****
>>
>> President SSJYSL****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SSJ-Info mailing list
>> SSJ-Info at ssjysl.org
>> http://www.ssjysl.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ssj-info
>>
>
>
>
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Sep 29 19:00:48 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:00:48 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy Wall Street & Unions
In-Reply-To: <4E852299.2070307@earthlink.net>
References: <4E852299.2070307@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4E8522D0.3090303@earthlink.net>


FYI,

"Unions Head to Support Occupy Wall Street"

     http://www.commondreams.org/further/2011/09/29-0

Gerry



From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Sep 29 22:11:46 2011
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:11:46 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] No Credit Card Debt fliers updated
Message-ID: <4E854F92.1070802@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


       Might some of you have time to review the "No Credit Card Debt" 
flier on the Resources page of the Santa Clara Greens web site 
(www.cagreens.org/sclara/resources)?


       I've added a plot showing the increase in income inequality in 
the US since 1970.  I'm a little concerned that the print may be too 
small.  I can read it, and my wife seemed to think it's OK, but I'd be 
pleased to have some feedback -- including any suggested revisions in 
the verbiage.  (The accompanying narrative notes that improvements in 
productivity in the US were broadly shared from 1947 to 1970.  However, 
average annual income in the US has doubled since 1970, and most of 
these increases have gone to the wealthy.  In part, this is a product of 
the very successful propaganda campaign that branded the media as 
liberal.  I note that honestly liberal media have lost advertising and 
have either become marginalized, gone bankrupt, or gotten taken over by 
right wingers.)


       We are planning to leaflet some banks in the not too distant 
future, and if there are any typos or other errors or obscure 
phraseology, now is the time to fix those things.


       Thanks,
       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 30 09:14:53 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:14:53 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Canada Ice Shelf
In-Reply-To: <4E85EAD2.30707@earthlink.net>
References: <4E85EAD2.30707@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4E85EAFD.30306@earthlink.net>


FYI,

"Canadian Arctic Loses Nearly Entire Ice Shelf"

     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/09/30-5

Gerry



From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Sep 30 09:50:51 2011
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:50:51 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] I think this is very scary.
Message-ID: <4E85F36B.5010009@charter.net>

Hey kids, Glenn Beck has a new show
By: Keach Hagey
He's premiering a children's show on his new GBTV Internet network 
titled "Liberty Treehouse."
more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64760.html 
<http://go.politicoemail.com/?qs=c43fe00934d7f919f0bb169d0e4c2609a4569afebc0b66268fe6997cbccb8e68>

With that, he can poison the minds of a generation.
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From fredlois2 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 09:59:05 2011
From: fredlois2 at gmail.com (fred Duperrault)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:59:05 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Canada Ice Shelf
In-Reply-To: <4E85EAFD.30306@earthlink.net>
References: <4E85EAD2.30707@earthlink.net> <4E85EAFD.30306@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <14A28BF8-6AF5-4D11-AE05-C4E6D7251543@gmail.com>

Where are the major political leaders in the world?  Are they more  
fearful of
visibly uniting to take meaningful action to address global warming  
than they
of the calamitous alternative.?

Fred D.


On Sep 30, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Gerry Gras wrote:

>
> FYI,
>
> "Canadian Arctic Loses Nearly Entire Ice Shelf"
>
>    http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/09/30-5
>
> Gerry
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 30 10:10:27 2011
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 10:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] I think this is very scary.
In-Reply-To: <4E85F36B.5010009@charter.net>
References: <4E85F36B.5010009@charter.net>
Message-ID: <1317402627.54737.YahooMailNeo@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Any suggestions on a kids' publication that I could advertise www.peacemovies.com in?? Preferably one that would print the entire Connection Magazine article that is on the homepage...


From: Wes Rolley <wrolley at charter.net>
To: Post South SF Bay discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] I think this is very scary.


Hey kids, Glenn Beck has a new show 
By: Keach Hagey 
He's premiering a children?s show on his new GBTV Internet network titled ?Liberty Treehouse.? 
more: http://go.politicoemail.com/?qs=c43fe00934d7f919f0bb169d0e4c2609a4569afebc0b66268fe6997cbccb8e68

With that, he can poison the minds of a generation. 

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 30 18:38:16 2011
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 18:38:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Protest" Action Sites
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FYI,

regarding upcoming protest actions, below are some websites
that might be helpful.

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About "occupying" Wall Street:
https://occupywallst.org/


About "occupying" places other than Wall Street:
http://www.occupytogether.org/

A separate action in October (beginning Oct. 6),
inspired by Tahrir Square:
http://october2011.org/
(But I think its goals are similar to occupywallst.)

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Some history, not guaranteed to be 100%, but as best
as I can recall.

There was the Tar Sands Action,
http://www.tarsandsaction.org/
where over 1200 people were arrested in front of the
White House over a 2 week period, from late August to
early September.

Occupy Wall Street began on Sept. 17th about one block
from Wall Street.  At first there was little attention,
from mainstream and alternate media, then alternate media
started paying some attention, then the police got a
little violent, then the mainstream media gave it some
attention.

Some unions are talking about joining the Occupy Wall Street
action soon.  Don't know if they will be joining just for the
marches, or for the camping out as well.

The Occupy xxx has expanded to at least Boston, Chicago,
and San Francisco, and according to occupytogether.org,
there may be dozens of efforts elsewhere.

According to http://www.occupytogether.org/events/west/occupy-san-jose/

there will be an action in San Jose, Oct. 2, this Sunday,
2 days from now.

And then October2011.org begins Oct. 6, with an occupation
of Freedom Plaza in DC, and some simultaneous actions
elsewhere.

Should be interesting.

Tar Sands Action is planning on returning Nov. 6th.

Gerry



From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Sep 30 20:58:53 2011
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:58:53 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Canada Ice Shelf
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On 9/30/2011 9:59 AM, fred Duperrault wrote:
> Where are the major political leaders in the world?  Are they more 
> fearful of
> visibly uniting to take meaningful action to address global warming 
> than they
> of the calamitous alternative.?
>
> Fred D.
>
Fred, consider this:

"*The world will have to spend an extra $500 billion to cut carbon 
emissions for each year it delays implementing a major assault on global 
warming*."

Source:
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/09/30/333435/socolow-wedges-clean-energy-deployment/
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