From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug  2 10:18:36 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:18:36 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Fwd: [usgp-media] RELEASE Green
 nominees Stein & Honkala arrested in protest of foreclosure giant Fannie
 Mae
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Subject: 	[gpca-forum] Fwd: [usgp-media] RELEASE Green nominees Stein &
Honkala arrested in protest of foreclosure giant Fannie Mae
Date: 	Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:29:47 -0700
From: 	Sanda Everette <sanda at greens.org>
To: 	gpca-forum <gpca-forum at cagreens.org>



I am sure you have been hearing about this, but this is a pretty
complete report from the campaign.

Sanda Everette, GPCA delegation to GPUS, GPCA Coordinating Committee
How can what's already rotten be spoiled? (Nader 2000, Frank Young, WV,
2012)
"The politics of fear have brought us everything we were afraid of."
(Dr. Jill Stein, 2012)*
*





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Date: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Subject: [usgp-media] RELEASE Green nominees Stein & Honkala arrested in
protest of foreclosure giant Fannie Mae
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Jill Stein for President

Cheri Honkala for Vice President
http://www.jillstein.org

Stein and Honkala arrested in protest of foreclosure giant Fannie Mae

POSTED BY JILL STEIN FOR PRESIDENT ON AUGUST 01, 2012
http://www.jillstein.org/stein_and_honkala_arrested

Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein and her vice presidential
running mate Cheri Honkala were arrested today during a protest at the
offices of mortgage company Fannie Mae on Banker's Row in Philadelphia.

Among those arrested along with Dr. Stein and Ms. Honkala were labor
lawyer James Moran and Sister Margaret McKenna of the Medical Mission
Sisters. An attorney who supports civil disobedience cases is providing
legal assistance. All of those arrested are expected to come before a
judge early on Thursday morning. At that time bail will either be set or
they will be released on their own recognizance.

The protest was originally called for by the Poor People's Economic
Human Rights Campaign to demand that the giant mortgage company halt
foreclosure proceedings against two Philadelphia residents in danger of
losing their homes. Stein joined the protest after Cheri Honkala joined
her as Stein's vice presidential running mate. Honkala, a former
homeless single mother, has been confronting banks and mortgage
companies for decades demanding that they adopt policies that will,
"keep families in their homes."

At 1pm today about 50 protestors gathered outside of Fannie Mae's
Philadelphia headquarters. They heard from Miss Fran and Rhonda
Lancaster, the heads of two families evicted by Fannie Mae in its
refusal to negotiate an alternative to foreclosure. Fannie Mae executive
Zach Oppenheimer had previously promised in writing to meet with the two
women in order to discuss other options. Yet no followup meeting ever
took place, and so protestors today entered the Fannie Mae building and
vowed to stay until Mr. Oppenheimer's word was honored.

At about 2:30pm, an hour after entering the building and beginning a
sitdown protest, lower level Fannie Mae officials agreed to meet with
Miss Fran and Ms. Lancaster. These meetings proved inconclusive, ending
only with promises of more meetings. With Philadelphia police on hand
with six paddy wagons and plainclothesman, a smaller subset of
protestors stayed inside the building and risked arrest. Five were
arrested, including Dr. Stein and Ms. Honkala.

In explaining why she joined the protest, Stein said that almost half of
Americans now live in poverty or near poverty, eight million families
face eviction from their homes due to foreclosures, and over a third of
mortgage holders are "underwater" - meaning that they owe more to the
lenders than their properties are worth on the market.

Said Stein, "The developers and financiers made trillions of dollars
through the housing bubble and the imposition of crushing debt on
homeowners. And when homeowners could no longer pay them what they
demanded, they went to government and got trillions of dollars of
bailouts. Every effort of the Obama Administration has been to prop this
system up and keep it going at taxpayer expense. It's time for this game
to end. It's time for the laws be written to protect the victims and not
the perpetrators. It's time for a new deal for America, and a Green New
Deal is what we will deliver on taking office. "

"The laws and the budgets and the procedures are designed to protect the
lenders and to extract as much money as possible from the victims,"
Honkala explained. "This isn't the way it would be if we really had a
government of the people, by the people, and for the people. The first
goal of government should be to keep families in their homes, and to
provide restitution for the deception and fraud that has robbed millions
of Americans of financial security."

Stein laid out a number of steps that will be part of a new deal for
homeowners when and where the Green Party wins power. First, as
President, Dr. Stein would issue an executive order establishing a
moratorium on foreclosures of occupied dwellings. Second, municipalities
governed by Greens will get homeowners out of underwater mortgages by
seizing mortgages through eminent domain and letting non-profit
community development organizations - not Wall Street banks - reissue
the mortgages.

Noting that the Obama administration has only released 10% of the aid
that Congress had promised to homeowners, Stein asserted that "There is
much more interest in Washington in protecting the profits of banks than
in getting this aid out to the families whose lives are falling apart.
   President Obama held a big press conference to announce a program that
would supposedly help 1.5 million homeowners and so far it has actually
helped only 1 per cent of that number. Real help goes to the CEOs who
play golf with the President and the people get lip service.  This will
change only if the people stand up and say we're not going to put up
with it anymore."

Statement from RHONDA LANCASTER (Excerpted from People?s Tribune):

My family has lived in this home in Germantown for over 35 years. When
my mother got ill and could not afford her health care, a reverse
mortgage idea was presented to me. They made it look like it was a great
thing. It was going to take care of my mother, and when my mother passed
away it would be just fine.

The nightmare started after my mom died. I notified the bank she had
passed away, and two days later I was getting ready for her funeral.
Relatives and friends were coming in from all over the country. The bank
told me to stop everything and let them come in and do an appraisal.

The bank refused to accept me as the executor of her estate, although
the proper papers had been filed at City Hall. From that point on it was
a complete nightmare. I could get through to no one and no one could
help me. They denied me my legal US rights as heir to my mother?s property.

Statement from MISS FRAN (Excerpted from People?s Tribune):

I have lived in Philadelphia all my life, and in this house since 1988.
Once when I was forced to file for bankruptcy, my mortgage holder, Chase
Bank, suddenly came to court and objected to my bankruptcy plan.
Although the law requires them to notify me in advance, I had no warning
of their action, so I had no lawyer and no time to prepare my evidence.
The judge dismissed my file for bankruptcy and Chase began foreclosure
proceedings.

I participated in Philadelphia?s Mortgage Foreclosure Diversion Program,
so I was able to keep my home off the sheriff sale list. Then they
claimed I missed a Conciliation Conference even though they had never
notified me about it. When I complained, the court rescheduled the
sheriff sale of my home from July 1, 2008, to September.  I attended
that sale on July 1 and was shocked to hear them put my house up for
sale anyway. I was in the back of the auditorium and ran to the front
making so much noise the sheriff?s lawyer had to stop the sale. Finally
they brought in a letter from the sheriff saying they had obtained a
court order that same day to sell the house. They had gone to court
without even notifying me. The same judge who postponed the sale in the
first place had turned around and vacated his own order, all without
telling me.

The sale of my home went through on July 1, but my battle was just
beginning. Although Chase Bank foreclosed on my home, I found out the
sheriff changed the name on the documents to Fannie Mae. There is no
bill of sale from Chase to Fannie Mae and no record of any transfer.
Fannie Mae has no legal standing to evict me. But that didn?t stop them
from trying. They sued to evict me in April 2011. I filed an objection,
it was overruled, I answered them, and we were supposed to go to trial
in February 2012. Then they filed for a summary judgment against me,
which is only supposed to be granted when there is no dispute in the
matter. I told them we most definitely do have a dispute: a district
court order was ignored and Fannie Mae has no standing. But the judge
granted the summary judgment anyway. They obtained a writ of eviction
and scheduled my eviction for June 12.
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug  2 10:35:07 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:35:07 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Our Presidential Ticket Is In Jail - Find Out Why
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug  2 10:55:35 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 10:55:35 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] More re Stein's arrest
Message-ID: <501ABF17.2070008@earthlink.net>


FYI,

"Green Party Presidential Candidate Jill Stein Arrested at Bank Protest"
"Charged with 'defiant trespassing'"

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/08/02-1

Gerry


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug  2 11:33:49 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 11:33:49 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] More re Stein's arrest
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References: <501ABF17.2070008@earthlink.net>
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Sanda provided this link:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/169204/presidential-candidate-whos-willing-get-arrested-fight-foreclosure-abuse


Gerry Gras wrote:
>
> FYI,
>
> "Green Party Presidential Candidate Jill Stein Arrested at Bank Protest"
> "Charged with 'defiant trespassing'"
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/08/02-1
>
> Gerry
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Thu Aug  2 18:35:47 2012
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 18:35:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] letter
Message-ID: <1343957747.22349.YahooMailClassic@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Well, I didn't make it into print, but my letter re. Jill Stein is at mercurynews.com/opinion.
Caroline
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From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  3 11:02:05 2012
From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:02:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein in the debates? | TheStreet
Message-ID: <1344016925.4372.androidMobile@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

http://www.thestreet.mobi/story/11638722/1/want-to-see-gary-johnson-and-jill-stein-debate-heres-why-you-wont.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN

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From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  3 17:53:29 2012
From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 17:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Watch "Charles Eisenstein: 'In a gift economy the more
	you give, the richer you are'" on YouTube
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S1egXWYwXo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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From ahicks at proposaltrainings.com  Wed Aug  1 12:54:59 2012
From: ahicks at proposaltrainings.com (Adam Hicks)
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:54:59 -0400
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Two-Day Grant Development Workshop at Santa Barbara
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Sat Aug  4 15:12:17 2012
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 15:12:17 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party Convention in Baltimore
Message-ID: <501D9E41.4030003@aceweb.com>

If you'd like to see my take on the convention, please click this URL:

http://tian.greens.org/GreenParty/Baltimore2012/index.html

BTW: Thanks for the support that made getting there easier!

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
"I don't hate plastic, I just hate what we're doing with it." Beth Terry
The Bitterroot Valley Montana pin is on an expired Caltrain ticket.



From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  5 12:03:05 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:03:05 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Barr/Sheehan are Peace and Freedom Pres. Ticket
Message-ID: <BAY165-W19F3AE9430E62144C320A49EC80@phx.gbl>


http://cindysheehanssoapbox.blogspot.com/2012/08/barrsheehan-2012-vs-war-party.html 		 	   		  
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun Aug  5 19:52:15 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:52:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] letter
Message-ID: <37a93.705e5eff.3d508b5e@aol.com>

Yes it did!!!  I saw it in the letters section...  possibly Saturday... 
Can't remember which day for sure.  Very good  letter!!!  Warner
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2012 6:35:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
carolineyacoub at att.net writes:

Well, I didn't make it into print, but my letter re. Jill Stein is  at 
mercurynews.com/opinion.
Caroline


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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  6 13:28:43 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:28:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US"
Message-ID: <BAY165-W33B482D5A605EC8C292669ECF0@phx.gbl>


August 6, 2001, a CIA memo was presented to President Bush entitled 
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US". (1)  According to Ron Suskind, Bush's 
response to the briefing was to tell his CIA representative "All right. You've 
covered your ass, now." (2)

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice had already received dire warnings 
about upcoming al Qaeda attacks in CIA briefings on May 30 and July 10.  
The CIA's Cofer Black said  "The only thing we didn't do was pull the trigger to 
the gun we were holding to her head."  Though warnings came from 4 FBI offices 
and 13 foreign countries (Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Italy, Germany, Afghanistan, 
Cayman Islands,  Argentina, Russia, the UK, Morocco, the UAE, and India), Dr. 
Rice told the 9/11 Commission she could not remember if before 9/11 she 
discussed with the president the presence of al Qaeda cells inside the United 
States. (3)

Many of the warnings were quite specific.  One from a former Iranian intelligence
figure resulted in an FBI memo entitled "Kamikaze Pilots".  (4)  Vladimir Putin
warned of suicide pilots training for attacks in the USA. (5)  FBI agents warned
of upcoming attacks in lower Manhattan. (6)  Israel warned of terrorists inside 
the USA planning something big, and they named names including at least four 
alleged 9/11 plotters. (7) (8) Two of these were already known to the CIA as al 
Qaeda agents inside the USA and. according to Bob Woodward, they bought 
ten airline tickets for September 11, 2001 under their real names, and this fact 
could have been turned up by a simple credit-card check. (9)  

When Condi testified under oath to the 9/11 Commission, she claimed emphatically
that the "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" memo was not a warning. (3)  The
Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, Dr. Philip Zelikow, was an old friend of 
Condi's--they'd authored a book together, and he'd served on the transition team 
with her at the beginning of the Bush term.  Zelikow was overheard telephoning the 
CIA authors of the memo to ask them to validate Condi's assessment.  They refused, 
telling the 9/11 Commission that they intended the memo to indicate that the threat 
of an attack was "current and serious".  (10)  

The German journalist,  
              Oliver Schr?m, tells us that the 1-1/2 page memo we have
seen was only part of the memo--the whole thing was 11-1/2 pages.  (8)   Peculiar
redactions at the bottom of both pages seem to be consistent with a 12-page memo.  
They're placed centrally, like page number notations.  They're too long to fit "Page
1 of 2" but they fit "Page 12 of 12" very nicely.  The redactions are discussed at the 
end of this 5-minute video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcrgeuLb3dQ&list=UUCU5Ac7Vd7cqPk074nnKSTw&index=10&feature=plcp


(1)  http://articles.cnn.com/2004-04-10/politics/august6.memo_1_bin-conduct-terrorist-attacks-abu-zubaydah?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS
(2)  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html
(3) http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/archive/hearing9/9-11Commission_Hearing_2004-04-08.htm
(4) http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/02/01/the-fbi-%E2%80%9Ckamikaze-pilots%E2%80%9D-case/
(5) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53065,00.html
(6) http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2002/True-Believer/
(7) http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/cia-pannen-mossad-agenten-waren-atta-auf-der-spur-a-216421.html
(8) http://www.antiwar.com/article.php?articleid=2305
(9) Woodward, State of Denial p. 79-80
(10) Shenon, The Commission p. 374-85
 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  6 15:13:45 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:13:45 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Administration abandons 2 degree limit
In-Reply-To: <5020411B.8040104@earthlink.net>
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FYI,

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/08/06/642141/obama-administration-abandons-two-degree-commitment-made-in-2010/

Gerry


From carolineyacoub at att.net  Tue Aug  7 11:31:35 2012
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:31:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: SF Mime Troupe show on Sat,
	Aug 11 - meet after show in Santa Cruz?
Message-ID: <1344364295.74903.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>



--- On Mon, 8/6/12, Laura Wells <laurawells2014 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Laura Wells <laurawells2014 at gmail.com>
Subject: SF Mime Troupe show on Sat, Aug 11 - meet after show in Santa Cruz?
To: "Laura Wells" <laurawells2014 at gmail.com>
Date: Monday, August 6, 2012, 9:04 PM





Hello Santa Cruz and places nearby -


Are you available for getting together after the SF Mime Troupe show in Santa Cruz this Saturday, August 11? We would get together at a cafe where we could have coffee or food and talk about possibilities for California. The details of the show are below.


I have set a goal for this summer to get to every SF Mime Troupe show in the greater Bay Area (and maybe beyond), 30-45 minutes before the show in order to??put leaflets in the hands of audience members. The leaflet has my Open Letter to Governor Jerry Brown about the budget on one side, and on the other side "Occupying Government in Sacramento: Possibilities for a Boomerang on the 1%." That piece is focused on how the California Top Two Primary allows anybody to vote for anybody regardless of voter registration, so for state office, vote for candidates independent of corporate money, like the Greens!


Since I'll be in Santa Cruz, it would be great to have a chance to be with a bunch of people and talk about changing California for the BETTER for a change! ?And changing the U.S. and the world.


Let me know if it's possible for you. It would be fun to see and talk with you.


SF MIME TROUPE SHOW "For the Greater Good, or The Last Election"
San Lorenzo Park, Dakota Ave, Downtown Santa Cruz
Sat, Aug 11th @ 3:00 PM (Music 2:30)
(Show will also be Sun, Aug 12th; I'll be there to leaflet before the show)?
Ticket Info: FREE (donation)

http://www.sfmt.org/schedule/


Hope to see you; let me know.


Another world is possible,
Laura






PublicBankingInstitute.org

LauraWellsSolutions.com

510.225.4005

laurawells2014 at gmail.com




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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Aug  7 14:22:12 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:22:12 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama's Drone Strikes Could Cost Him the Election
Message-ID: <BAY165-W148EEF91AE480909B1D8549ECE0@phx.gbl>


http://www.china.org.cn/opinion/2012-08/06/content_26143770.htm

Amazing chart shows disapproval worldwide of the drone strikes.


 		 	   		  
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From vdf at juno.com  Wed Aug  8 00:47:51 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:47:51 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: Silicon Valley Watershed Summit
Message-ID: <20120808.004751.31756.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>

This Watershed Summit sounds interesting.  It's at Foothill College on Saturday, Sept. 22.  Registration is $10.

Original email posted by Gloria Purcell on the San Mateo County discussion list.

Valerie

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jul/30/japan-green-party-nuclear-power
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120729b3.html

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I plan to go to this; encourage you all to consider it.  Amazing how  
much I don't know about a place I have lived all my life!  And my  
favorite part of "my" place, too!
Anyone?  Carpool?  Sept. 22, 8:30 a.m.-2:00 p.m.

The BAWSCA meeting was informational; I saw a map of all the new  
pipelines coming from Hetch Hetchy, saw who the members of the agency  
are (water district reps and cities who have no separate water  
districts; all of us who use HH water).
Clearly, SFPUC holds all the power, but this group can make  
recommendations and give opinions.  Peter Dreckmeier asked me and  
others to come, and I am glad I did.  Held at Foster City library;  
their regular meetings are too.
About 20 people spoke, me too, on the new plan to suck more water from  
the Tuolumne River.  All, 100%, were opposed.  Other people were quite  
knowledgeable and eloquent; I just tried to make the point that a goal  
of "meeting increased demand" is a mistaken goal.  People need to know  
limits, know the problems and not just keep consuming; most will  
actually change behavior if they know they need to!  Trying to meet  
"customer demand" merely hides the existence of shortages from us.
Gloria


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Peter Drekmeier <pdrekmeier at earthlink.net>
> Date: July 19, 2012 9:41:19 AM PDT
> Subject: Silicon Valley Watershed Summit
>
> Friends,
>
> I'd like to encourage you to attend the Silicon Valley Watershed  
> Summit on September 22.  Here are the details.
>
> -Peter
>
> Silicon Valley Watershed Summit!
> Saturday, September 22, 8:30am-2:00pm
> Foothill College (Smithwick Theater), 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos  
> Hills
> Details: http://www.acterra.org/watershedsummit
> Registration: http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/256652
>
> The Silicon Valley Watershed Summit is a gathering of activists and  
> elected officials, agency staff and non-profit leaders, and the  
> newly-interested, to learn about and take steps to improve our local  
> watersheds in Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties.  This event  will  
> focus on ?Big Picture? issues that challenge the health of our  
> watersheds, and teach skills that YOU can implement in your  
> watershed and community.  Participants will be able to congregate  
> around specific topics and watersheds, and initiate "friends of"  
> groups and public-private partnerships that will continue working  
> together to promote, protect and restore our watersheds.  Special  
> speakers are Brock Dolman, Director of the Occidental Arts and  
> Ecology Center?s Water Institute, and Lester Snow, former California  
> Secretary of Natural Resources and current Director of the  
> California Water Foundation.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Peter Drekmeier
> pdrekmeier at earthlink.net
> (650) 223-3333
>

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From azuresea4me at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  8 13:09:24 2012
From: azuresea4me at yahoo.com (Azure Sea)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Community Sharing and Reskilling Event,
	11am August 12th
Message-ID: <1344456564.23943.YahooMailNeo@web142304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hello all - though this is not a political event, it is a local sustainability-eco-green community event for those that might be interested. ?Lori

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Share Food, Crafts, Skills, and Goods

Sunday, ?August 12th?
11am ? 12:30pm ? FREE !
Common Ground Organic Garden Supply & Education Center
559 College Avenue, Palo Alto, CA 94306
?
Hop on your bikes with your friends and family for a multiple skill?
and goods sharing event. Join us to share your garden and kitchen?
bounty, your extra arts and crafts supplies, beloved (or neglected)?
books, old clothing, and children?s toys. Bring what you have to share;?
take home something you don?t. ? You?ll also learn to make homemade?
musical instruments and get a (or learn to do your own) bike tunup.?
We?ll have demos on kitchen skills and craft techniques on the?
half-hour, too. Bring your bikes, bike supplies, homegrown fruit,?
vegetables, eggs, herbs, honey, flowers, paints, markers, books, shirts,?
skirts, pants, fabric, yarn, paper, sheet music, patterns, books, garden tools,
craft tools, toys, kits and more. Be sure to bring a bag to take home the bounty!

Local Garden Share ? Bring extra bounty from the garden?
(produce, fruit, herbs, eggs, honey, flowers, plants in pots),?
things made in the kitchen from the things from the garden, seeds,?
seedlings, tools, utensils, books, magazines. Anything garden and?
food-related is welcome.

Craft Share ? Bring your arts and crafts supplies?
and tools, and even artistic creations to share. ?We?ll have demos on?
simple crafts you can make, techniques you can learn, a chance to show?
off your skills, and even a crochet lesson.

Bicycle workshop ? Let?s work together to do minor?
maintenance and make minor adjustments to improve your bike for?
efficiency, safety and comfort, with Trevor and Katie. They?ll help you?
with: Tire pressure, Oiling squeaky chains, Seat ergonomics, Adjusting?
bar position for good wristernomics, Adjusting gears, brakes and?
headsets. They can also coach you through fixing a flat tire!

Scrapophony- Fun with Found Sounds ? Learn to make?
and play some simple ?musical instruments? from things found around the?
house. Discover the joys found sound and explore the wonders of sound?
via everyday objects. Humans have been experimenting with ways to make?
music with found objects (sticks, bones, rocks?) for about as long as?
there have been humans. Join us in rekindling that sense of auditory?
exploration which is the wellspring of musical creativity.

Book share ? Turn in your old beloved books in?
readable condition (no pages missing please) and take home a new good?
read. Any extras will be donated to the library.

Clothes share ? Bring something that no longer fits?
but still looks good (free of stains and tears) and find something that?
you need to complete your wardrobe. Any remaining clothes will be?
donated to Goodwill for recycling.

Toy share ? Kids bored of the same old toys? Trade?
them in for something new-to-them, and get the next generation involved?
in sharing and keeping things out of the landfill. Extras will be?
donated to a local children?s shelter.

Transition Tales - Bring your Transition Tale and record it on video with Mythologist Willi Paul at the Reskilling & Sharing Expo.
What are your hopes and concerns for the future? Share your journey and what the Transition Movement means to you and your family.
These short video pieces will be uploaded and available for discussion right after the Expo.
Throughout the Bay Area, neighbors are coming together for sharing?
locally grown, fresh produce, as well as arts and crafts supplies, and?
other household items.?

Our Palo Alto sharing event is supported by a?
coalition of community ecological organizations and neighborhood groups?
including: Acterra, Barron Park Green Team, Barron Park Garden Network,?
Barron Park Assn, Common Ground, City of Palo Alto Community Gardens,?
Deborah?s Palm, Midtown Green Team, Opalz, Slow Food South Bay,?
Transition Palo Alto and Transition Silicon Valley.

The Common Ground store is open during the event, so plan to stop in?
to get any supplies you need to continue your garden bounty or more. ?
Also, the event is located only 3 blocks from the California Ave?
Farmers? Market, which is open from 9:00 AM to 1:00 PM. ?You will have?
time to shop or have lunch at the market after the event.
Please take home any excess of what you bring, if you can. Other?
items such as toys, books, craft supplies and clothes may be donated to?
local charities and shelters.?

More information will be posted at http://transitionpaloalto.org
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Aug  8 15:18:37 2012
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 15:18:37 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: Silicon Valley Watershed Summit
In-Reply-To: <20120808.004751.31756.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20120808.004751.31756.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <5022E5BD.1050608@charter.net>

Anyone who attends this should think about what Gov. Moonbeam's tunnel 
project means.   In the words of the old Chiffon Margarine ad... It 
isn't nice to fool Mother Nature.



On 8/8/2012 12:47 AM, Valerie D. Face wrote:
> This Watershed Summit sounds interesting.  It's at Foothill College on Saturday, Sept. 22.  Registration is $10.
>
> Original email posted by Gloria Purcell on the San Mateo County discussion list.
>
> Valerie



From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  8 19:44:01 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:44:01 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Debunking the War on Terror --San Jose Peace Center,
	Thurs. 7:00
Message-ID: <BAY165-W60E05B5FB8E1393F0ABB989ECC0@phx.gbl>



Thursday, August 9, 2012 @ 7:00 - 9:00pm

San Jose Peace and Justice Center

48 S 7th St  
 
Dr.
 Paul W. Rea will deconstruct the Global War on Terror - a flimsy  house
 of cards if ever there 
were one - and thus will deny Washington  its 
pretext for endless wars. The talk will provide ways 
to oppose not  only
 aggression abroad but also repression at home, including toxic  
Islamophobia.
 
 In his recent book "Mounting Evidence: Why We 
Need a New Investigation  into 9/11", Dr. Rea 
delivers an 
impressively-researched critique of the  9/11 Commission and debunks the
 War on 
Terror. A former St. Mary's  College professor, Dr. Rea spent 
six years analyzing the evidence 
and  concluded that, whatever actually 
happened on 9/11, the Bush  administration's official story 
cannot 
possibly be true. 
 
Suggested donation: $5-10 (no one turned away). 
This event is sponsored by Tri-City 
Perspectives and co-sponsored by the
 San Jose Peace and Justice Center. 
 

 		 	   		  
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  8 21:22:27 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 21:22:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Debunking the War on Terror --San Jose Peace
	Center, Thurs. 7:00
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W60E05B5FB8E1393F0ABB989ECC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1344486147.86726.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I wonder if Dr?Rea?has read the latest article in the July/August 2012 Skeptical Inquirer titled "New Info Challenges 9/11 Thermite Claims" where in a scant 2 pages Dave Thomas debunks the idea that thermite was responsible for generating the unique features of iron particles found in dust samples from the World Trade Center.? Dave Thomas fails of course to explain how pools of molten metal were found beneath the?collapsed Trade Center.? It is not necessary to have a controlled demolition to bring down the towers and Dave Thomas points out that there was no Aluminum found in the samples of WTC dust that he had tested, ruling out thermite.? But there are still some unanswered questions and things that just don't make sense. Also, Dave Thomas claims that no one heard explosions prior to the WTC collapse.? This is also false. ?My favorite pet peeve is that cell phones have been demonstrated?to be?unable to communicate with the ground from a small
 aircraft flying at over 8000 ft in altitude, unlike what?was claimed to have happened during the last few minutes of flight 93.? I look forward to having a discussion with Dr Rea.
?
John Thielking

--- On Wed, 8/8/12, Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Debunking the War on Terror --San Jose Peace Center, Thurs. 7:00
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012, 7:44 PM








Thursday, August 9, 2012 @ 7:00 - 9:00pm

San Jose Peace and Justice Center

48 S 7th St ?
?
Dr. Paul W. Rea will deconstruct the Global War on Terror - a flimsy house of cards if ever there 

were one - and thus will deny Washington its pretext for endless wars. The talk will provide ways 

to oppose not only aggression abroad but also repression at home, including toxic Islamophobia.

In his recent book "Mounting Evidence: Why We Need a New Investigation into 9/11", Dr. Rea 

delivers an impressively-researched critique of the 9/11 Commission and debunks the War on 

Terror. A former St. Mary's College professor, Dr. Rea spent six years analyzing the evidence 

and concluded that, whatever actually happened on 9/11, the Bush administration's official story 

cannot possibly be true. 



Suggested donation: $5-10 (no one turned away). This event is sponsored by Tri-City 

Perspectives and co-sponsored by the San Jose Peace and Justice Center.?
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  8 22:58:02 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:58:02 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Debunking the War on Terror --San Jose Peace
 Center, Thurs. 7:00
In-Reply-To: <1344486147.86726.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY165-W60E05B5FB8E1393F0ABB989ECC0@phx.gbl>,
	<1344486147.86726.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY165-W1305C1CB916F64FCCD0D1E9ECC0@phx.gbl>



Certainly, bring your questions, but don't be surprised if you know more about thermite
and cell phone technology than Dr. Rea does.  These are not his areas of expertise.



Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 21:22:27 -0700
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Debunking the War on Terror --San Jose Peace Center, Thurs. 7:00
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; snug.bug at hotmail.com

I wonder if Dr Rea has read the latest article in the July/August 2012 Skeptical Inquirer titled "New Info Challenges 9/11 Thermite Claims" where in a scant 2 pages Dave Thomas debunks the idea that thermite was responsible for generating the unique features of iron particles found in dust samples from the World Trade Center.  Dave Thomas fails of course to explain how pools of molten metal were found beneath the collapsed Trade Center.  It is not necessary to have a controlled demolition to bring down the towers and Dave Thomas points out that there was no Aluminum found in the samples of WTC dust that he had tested, ruling out thermite.  But there are still some unanswered questions and things that just don't make sense. Also, Dave Thomas claims that no one heard explosions prior to the WTC collapse.  This is also
 false.  My favorite pet peeve is that cell phones have been demonstrated to be unable to communicate with the ground from a small aircraft flying at over 8000 ft in altitude, unlike what was claimed to have happened during the last few minutes of flight 93.  I look forward to having a discussion with Dr Rea.
 
John Thielking

--- On Wed, 8/8/12, Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Debunking the War on Terror --San Jose Peace Center, Thurs. 7:00
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012, 7:44 PM








Thursday, August 9, 2012 @ 7:00 - 9:00pm

San Jose Peace and Justice Center

48 S 7th St  
 
Dr. Paul W. Rea will deconstruct the Global War on Terror - a flimsy house of cards if ever there 

were one - and thus will deny Washington its pretext for endless wars. The talk will provide ways 

to oppose not only aggression abroad but also repression at home, including toxic Islamophobia.

In his recent book "Mounting Evidence: Why We Need a New Investigation into 9/11", Dr. Rea 

delivers an impressively-researched critique of the 9/11 Commission and debunks the War on 

Terror. A former St. Mary's College professor, Dr. Rea spent six years analyzing the evidence 

and concluded that, whatever actually happened on 9/11, the Bush administration's official story 

cannot possibly be true. 



Suggested donation: $5-10 (no one turned away). This event is sponsored by Tri-City 

Perspectives and co-sponsored by the San Jose Peace and Justice Center. 
 


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug  9 09:45:47 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:45:47 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [Occupy PA] Provident Credit Union using "Big
 Bank" strong arm tactics?
In-Reply-To: <CAA4rDqGjapsGKJb761SbproH5UmC855aJJvcmMbOjuZWJJ0VrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA4rDqGjapsGKJb761SbproH5UmC855aJJvcmMbOjuZWJJ0VrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5023E93B.6060409@earthlink.net>


FYI,

Gerry


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Occupy PA] Provident Credit Union using "Big Bank" strong arm 
tactics?
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 01:29:16 -0700
From: James <hobredo at gmail.com>
To: OStan <occupystanford at googlegroups.com>,  OPalo 
<occupypaloalto at googlegroups.com>,  OMV 
<occupy-mountain-view at googlegroups.com>

Please take the time to read this message from Emiliano, a Redwood
City gentleman. His family moved their money out of a Big Bank but
recently became a victim of their credit union, which has been
emulating Big Bank misbehavior.

If his story below speaks to you, please click the link he provides
and help get his petition off the ground:

http://www.change.org/petitions/principal-mr-wayne-bunker-president-ceo-provident-credit-union-dont-pull-start-pulling-big-bank-strong-arm-tactics-against-customers

Thank you,

James

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Emiliano Sanchez <capofchange at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:47 AM
Subject: [Occupy RWC] Provident Credit Union using "Big Bank" strong
arm tactics?
To: occupy-redwood-city at googlegroups.com


A year and a half ago we switched from Wells Fargo in support of the
big bank transfer movement to our car loan provider, Provident Credit
Union. After last night however I am concerned that this particular
credit union has learned some the tactics that have made the big banks
lots of money from their "customers".

In front of my 6 and 7 yr. old children our family's minivan was
repossessed for missing one month payment, after 6 years of paying
over the minimum monthly payment . Only on one income, we needed until
the 15th of this month (anyone who gets paid bi-monthly can
understand) to bring our account current. No calls were made from the
"bank", just the sound of a tow truck and the best explanations to our
young children was all we could do last night. Luckily the tow truck
driver was nice enough to let us pull the only cars seats we have out
before he took off.

After talking with a representative with Provident today, Provident
could have saved $330 and made a phone call. Now in order to get our
family's van back we have to pay Provident and towing $600 ontop of
bringing the account current. I thought, as most people do and hope,
that credit unions were different. Well if you have Provident as your
financial institution you can start second guessing how many more of
these type of stong arm tactics will become "business as usual".

Please sign the petition to tell the President of Provident Mr. Wayne
Bunker that we the people want credit unions to be differernt than the
big banks and thats why we transferred to them.

  Thank you in advance to everyone behind the occupy(   ) movement! You
can find the petition here:

http://www.change.org/petitions/principal-mr-wayne-bunker-president-ceo-provident-credit-union-dont-pull-start-pulling-big-bank-strong-arm-tactics-against-customers#

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 10 09:19:02 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:19:02 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] International Agent Orange Day
Message-ID: <BAY165-W620A650B8DF18AC5AE04339EB30@phx.gbl>


On August 10th -
 International Agent Orange Day, the 51st anniversary of the first use 
of Agent Orange in Vietnam, please join in 51 seconds of silence to 
commemorate those harmed by Agent Orange and 51 seconds of action to 
make sure the victims receive justice and assistance.

In the past 51 years, millions of Vietnamese people have died. 
Millions continue to suffer from cancers and birth defects which affect 
three generations, including babies born every day. In the United 
States, veterans of the U.S. war in Vietnam also suffer from illnesses 
and their children, from birth defects.

Those responsible ? the United States government and the chemical 
companies which made this deadly chemical weapon, including Dow Chemical
 and Monsanto ? have yet to compensate their victims or clean up the 
land they poisoned.

In the 8th month, on the 10th day at 12 noon join people across the globe in:51 seconds of silence to
 reflect upon 51 years of spraying Agent Orange and 51 years of 
suffering of the victims in Vietnam, the U.S. and around the world from 
Agent Orange, as well as all victims of war

51 seconds of action to let your congressional representatives know you want them to take action to help the victims:

Ask five of your friends to sign and circulate the orange 
postcard you already signed to their congress member, asking that they 
support H.R. 2634 ? the Victims of Agent Orange Relief Act of 2011, by going tohttp://www.vn-agentorange.org/5_addresses.php

Donate to the Vietnam Agent Orange Relief & Responsibility Campaign athttp://www.vn-agentorange.org/donate.html
The postcard asks our representatives to provide:Health care and social services for affected Vietnamese,Medical assistance to affected children and grandchildren of American Vietnam veterans,

Extending the National Vietnam Veterans' Readjustment Study to also assessVietnam veterans' health,Health care for affected Vietnamese Americans and their offspring, and

Clean up of the lands and restore eco-systems contaminated by Agent Orange/dioxin in Vietnam.
Thank you for your support!
Sincerely,Merle Ratner, Susan Schnall, Paul Cox and Ng? Thanh Nh?n
On behalf of the Vietnam Agent Orange Relief and Responsibility Campaign, a project of Veterans for Peace and a partner of Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the National Lawyers Guild.

Vietnam Agent Orange Relief & Responsibility Campaign
P.O. 303 Prince Station, New York, NY 10012 ? www.vn-agentorange.or 		 	   		  
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Mon Aug 13 08:32:59 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:32:59 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Your attendance is requested this Friday, 17 Aug,
 9 AM and Sat. 15 Sept. 1-4 PM re. foreclosures
Message-ID: <50291E2B.8070204@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


FRIDAY, 9 AM, 17 AUGUST:  REQUEST RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST BANK OF 
AMERICA ATTORNEY, SANTA CLARA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT, DEPT. 18, 161 NORTH 
FIRST STREET, SAN JOS?, CA


       An important hearing is scheduled for 9 AM this Friday, 17 August 
in Santa Clara County Superior Court, Dept. 18, 161 North First Street 
in San Jose:  David (Merritt) is requesting a restraining order against 
Goliath (Attorney James Goldberg representing Bank of America, et al.) 
in response to alleged unprofessional and illegal physical and verbal 
assault on David and Salma Merritt and witnesses during a court-ordered 
deposition of Salma Merritt.


       We all want to believe that our courts are fair and impartial.  
Unfortunately, most major incumbent politicians these days have been 
elected with massive "contributions" from big money, who on average 
receive massive returns on those investments estimated at between $6 and 
$220 for each $1 invested in lobbying and political campaigns.[1]  
Judicial appointments are often made based on the preferences of major 
campaign contributors.[2]


       Your presence in the courtroom at that time might help the judge 
to interpret any ambiguity in the law in favor of David.


SATURDAY, 1 - 4 PM, 15 SEPTEMBER:  FORECLOSURE SUMMIT, NEW COMMUNITY OF 
FAITH, 6350 RAINBOW DRIVE, SAN JOS?, CA


       A Foreclosure Summit is scheduled for Saturday, 15 Sept., 1-4 PM, 
at the New Community of Faith church, 6350 Rainbow Drive, San Jose, CA, 
co-sponsored by Occupy San Jos?, the Green Party of Santa Clara County, 
and others.  The program will consist of presentations by leaders in the 
fight against illegal foreclosures, followed by small group discussions 
of the issues and ending with an open discussion of the possible next 
steps.  For more information, see "Foreclosure Summit", 
occupy.pbworks.com 
(http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit).


       In Santa Clara County alone, an estimated 24 families have lost 
their homes every day since Oct. 2007.  This crisis is forecasted to 
continue through 2015.  I believe that concerned citizens can reverse 
this trend and roll back the changes in law over the past 35 years, 
especially the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999, that have given the 
finance industry a third of US domestic corporate profits since 2000 and 
restore sanity and stability to international finance.  However, we 
cannot do it alone.


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


_______________________


[1] Lawrence Lessig (2011) Republic, Lost:  How Money Corrupts Congress 
-- and a Plan to Stop It (Twelve, p. 117);  Wikipedia, "Conflict of 
Interest".


[2] "Mount Principal James L. Stoelker Appointed to Superior Court", 
Dec. 17, 2010, Mount, Spelman and Fingerman, attorneys 
(www.mount.com/2010/12/ms-principal-appointed-to-santa-clara-county-superior-court 
<http://www.mount.com/2010/12/ms-principal-appointed-to-santa-clara-county-superior-court/>). 



-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:www.structuremonitoring.com

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 13 13:58:04 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:58:04 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CA DISCLOSE Act on Thom Hartmann at 2:15pm NOW
In-Reply-To: <CALmQKgiGqo_Pg9Z1aspFNOwvuzBGRBXusZgMQg+L34SWH42C5Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Listen to the streaming live webcast here:

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 13 14:58:04 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:58:04 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] War and Entertainment
Message-ID: <5029786C.805@earthlink.net>


About NBC's new show "honoring the troops".

"NBC?s War for Fun and Profit"
"A new reality show of soldiers and celebrities showcases our national 
religion: Military worship"
     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/08/13-9

"Peace Laureates Call on NBC to Cancel New Show: 'War Isn't Entertainment'"
     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/08/13-3


Gerry


From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Tue Aug 14 08:34:06 2012
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 08:34:06 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] candidate endorsements
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1344884401.30517.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
References: <mailman.1.1344884401.30517.sosfbay-discuss@cagreens.org>
Message-ID: <1344958446.28143.18.camel@robs-laptop>

Hi Folks,

Here in Milpitas, I am the only candidate standing for Mayor against the
incumbent, Jose Esteves.  I want the endorsement of the Santa Clara
County Green Party.  Who would I talk with about that possibility?
-- 
Rob Means, 2012 Milpitas Mayoral Candidate
408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
MeansForDemocracy.org (bus. = electric-bikes.com)
Standing for the Constitution, democracy, and the middle class.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 12:00 -0700, sosfbay-discuss-request at cagreens.org
wrote:

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>    1. Your attendance is requested this Friday, 17 Aug, 9 AM and
>       Sat. 15 Sept. 1-4 PM re. foreclosures (Spencer Graves)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:32:59 -0700
> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
> To: GPSCC <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Your attendance is requested this Friday, 17
> 	Aug, 9 AM and Sat. 15 Sept. 1-4 PM re. foreclosures
> Message-ID: <50291E2B.8070204 at prodsyse.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
> 
> Hello, All:
> 
> 
> FRIDAY, 9 AM, 17 AUGUST:  REQUEST RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST BANK OF 
> AMERICA ATTORNEY, SANTA CLARA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT, DEPT. 18, 161 NORTH 
> FIRST STREET, SAN JOS?, CA
> 
> 
>        An important hearing is scheduled for 9 AM this Friday, 17 August 
> in Santa Clara County Superior Court, Dept. 18, 161 North First Street 
> in San Jose:  David (Merritt) is requesting a restraining order against 
> Goliath (Attorney James Goldberg representing Bank of America, et al.) 
> in response to alleged unprofessional and illegal physical and verbal 
> assault on David and Salma Merritt and witnesses during a court-ordered 
> deposition of Salma Merritt.
> 
> 
>        We all want to believe that our courts are fair and impartial.  
> Unfortunately, most major incumbent politicians these days have been 
> elected with massive "contributions" from big money, who on average 
> receive massive returns on those investments estimated at between $6 and 
> $220 for each $1 invested in lobbying and political campaigns.[1]  
> Judicial appointments are often made based on the preferences of major 
> campaign contributors.[2]
> 
> 
>        Your presence in the courtroom at that time might help the judge 
> to interpret any ambiguity in the law in favor of David.
> 
> 
> SATURDAY, 1 - 4 PM, 15 SEPTEMBER:  FORECLOSURE SUMMIT, NEW COMMUNITY OF 
> FAITH, 6350 RAINBOW DRIVE, SAN JOS?, CA
> 
> 
>        A Foreclosure Summit is scheduled for Saturday, 15 Sept., 1-4 PM, 
> at the New Community of Faith church, 6350 Rainbow Drive, San Jose, CA, 
> co-sponsored by Occupy San Jos?, the Green Party of Santa Clara County, 
> and others.  The program will consist of presentations by leaders in the 
> fight against illegal foreclosures, followed by small group discussions 
> of the issues and ending with an open discussion of the possible next 
> steps.  For more information, see "Foreclosure Summit", 
> occupy.pbworks.com 
> (http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit).
> 
> 
>        In Santa Clara County alone, an estimated 24 families have lost 
> their homes every day since Oct. 2007.  This crisis is forecasted to 
> continue through 2015.  I believe that concerned citizens can reverse 
> this trend and roll back the changes in law over the past 35 years, 
> especially the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999, that have given the 
> finance industry a third of US domestic corporate profits since 2000 and 
> restore sanity and stability to international finance.  However, we 
> cannot do it alone.
> 
> 
>        Best Wishes,
>        Spencer
> 
> 
> _______________________
> 
> 
> [1] Lawrence Lessig (2011) Republic, Lost:  How Money Corrupts Congress 
> -- and a Plan to Stop It (Twelve, p. 117);  Wikipedia, "Conflict of 
> Interest".
> 
> 
> [2] "Mount Principal James L. Stoelker Appointed to Superior Court", 
> Dec. 17, 2010, Mount, Spelman and Fingerman, attorneys 
> (www.mount.com/2010/12/ms-principal-appointed-to-santa-clara-county-superior-court 
> <http://www.mount.com/2010/12/ms-principal-appointed-to-santa-clara-county-superior-court/>). 
> 
> 
> 
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From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 14 09:00:03 2012
From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:00:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] candidate endorsements
Message-ID: <1344960003.64038.androidMobile@web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thank you for running Rob and giving us the opportunity to endorse you and work on your behalf! I think you're our only local candidate in November (due to the disastrous Prop 14 "Richest two" primary). Would you be available to come give your pitch to the General Meeting August 23rd? The General Meeting could endorse you, or (if necessary due to extenuating circumstances) the Council could do it. Currently I believe the Council includes Jim Doyle, Spencer Graves, Merriam Kathryn and me. However, if possible I think most people find it more satisfying if the General Meeting makes the decision.

Green is Go!

Drew

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

From: Rob Means ; 
To: ; 
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] candidate endorsements 
Sent: Tue, Aug 14, 2012 3:34:06 PM 

Hi Folks,

Here in Milpitas, I am the only candidate standing for Mayor against the incumbent, Jose Esteves.? I want the endorsement of the Santa Clara County Green Party.? Who would I talk with about that possibility?
-- 
Rob Means, 2012 Milpitas Mayoral Candidate
408-262-8975?? rob.means at electric-bikes.com
1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
MeansForDemocracy.org (bus. = electric-bikes.com)
Standing for the Constitution, democracy, and the middle class.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 12:00 -0700, sosfbay-discuss-request at cagreens.org wrote: 

Send sosfbay-discuss mailing list submissions to sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to sosfbay-discuss-request at cagreens.org You can reach the person managing the list at sosfbay-discuss-owner at cagreens.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of sosfbay-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Your attendance is requested this Friday, 17 Aug, 9 AM and Sat. 15 Sept. 1-4 PM re. foreclosures (Spencer Graves) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:32:59 -0700 From: Spencer Graves To: GPSCC Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Your attendance is requested this Friday, 17 Aug, 9 AM and Sat. 15 Sept. 1-4 PM re. foreclosures Message-ID: <50291E2B.8070204 at prodsyse.com> Content-Type:
 text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Hello, All: FRIDAY, 9 AM, 17 AUGUST: REQUEST RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST BANK OF AMERICA ATTORNEY, SANTA CLARA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT, DEPT. 18, 161 NORTH FIRST STREET, SAN JOS?, CA An important hearing is scheduled for 9 AM this Friday, 17 August in Santa Clara County Superior Court, Dept. 18, 161 North First Street in San Jose: David (Merritt) is requesting a restraining order against Goliath (Attorney James Goldberg representing Bank of America, et al.) in response to alleged unprofessional and illegal physical and verbal assault on David and Salma Merritt and witnesses during a court-ordered deposition of Salma Merritt. We all want to believe that our courts are fair and impartial. Unfortunately, most major incumbent politicians these days have been elected with massive "contributions" from big money, who on average receive massive returns on those investments estimated at between $6 and $220 for each
 $1 invested in lobbying and political campaigns.[1] Judicial appointments are often made based on the preferences of major campaign contributors.[2] Your presence in the courtroom at that time might help the judge to interpret any ambiguity in the law in favor of David. SATURDAY, 1 - 4 PM, 15 SEPTEMBER: FORECLOSURE SUMMIT, NEW COMMUNITY OF FAITH, 6350 RAINBOW DRIVE, SAN JOS?, CA A Foreclosure Summit is scheduled for Saturday, 15 Sept., 1-4 PM, at the New Community of Faith church, 6350 Rainbow Drive, San Jose, CA, co-sponsored by Occupy San Jos?, the Green Party of Santa Clara County, and others. The program will consist of presentations by leaders in the fight against illegal foreclosures, followed by small group discussions of the issues and ending with an open discussion of the possible next steps. For more information, see "Foreclosure Summit", occupy.pbworks.com (http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit). In Santa Clara County
 alone, an estimated 24 families have lost their homes every day since Oct. 2007. This crisis is forecasted to continue through 2015. I believe that concerned citizens can reverse this trend and roll back the changes in law over the past 35 years, especially the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999, that have given the finance industry a third of US domestic corporate profits since 2000 and restore sanity and stability to international finance. However, we cannot do it alone. Best Wishes, Spencer _______________________ [1] Lawrence Lessig (2011) Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Congress -- and a Plan to Stop It (Twelve, p. 117); Wikipedia, "Conflict of Interest". [2] "Mount Principal James L. Stoelker Appointed to Superior Court", Dec. 17, 2010, Mount, Spelman and Fingerman, attorneys (www.mount.com/2010/12/ms-principal-appointed-to-santa-clara-county-superior-court
 <http://www.mount.com/2010/12/ms-principal-appointed-to-santa-clara-county-superior-court/>). 

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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Aug 14 09:38:47 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:38:47 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CHANGE OF TIME & LOCATION: Your attendance is
 requested this Friday, 17 Aug, 1:30 PM
Message-ID: <502A7F17.7050103@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


       The time of the hearing this Friday has been changed to 1:30 PM 
in Dept. 21, not 18.  I apologize for for the confusion.


FRIDAY, 1:30 PM, 17 AUGUST:   SPECIAL HEARING TO REQUEST A PROTECTIVE 
ORDER AGAINST BANK OF AMERICA AND COUNTRYWIDE ATTORNEYS.


WHERE:  SANTA CLARA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT, DEPT. 21, 161 NORTH FIRST 
STREET, SAN JOS?, CA  Old Court House 3rd Floor


NOTE:  Please check the postings inside the old court house for the 
location of the hearing in Merrett v. Mozillo.  Judge Stoelker, who 
normally presides in Dept. 18, is temporarily using Dept. 21.


       This important hearing is scheduled for 1:30 PM this Friday where 
David (Merritt) is requesting a Protective Order against Goliath 
(Attorney James Goldberg representing Bank of America, et al.) in 
response to video recorded browbeating, insults and verbal attacks upon 
his wife while holding their 18 month old daughter and witnesses during 
a deposition. David is alleging unprofessional and illegal physical and 
verbal assault upon his 84 year old father, caretaker sister, wife and 
him. They are personally pursuing a civil suit against JP Morgan Chase, 
Wells Fargo, BofA, Countrywide and all its CEOs. The case has gotten 
further than most which have been started, but not finished by lawyers, 
and its gone further than cases led by State Attorneys General.


       We all want to believe that our courts are fair and impartial.  
Unfortunately, most major incumbent politicians these days have been 
elected with massive "contributions" from big money. The contributors on 
average receive massive returns on those investments estimated at 
between $6 and $220 for each $1 invested in lobbying and political 
campaigns.[1]  Some of this return may come from judges whose selection 
was unduly influenced by the preferences of major campaign contributors.


       BofA, Wells Fargo and Chase have a combined market capitalization 
of $400 billion, and their senior executives will spend every penny of 
that to protect their prerogatives and keep themselves out of jail.  
Your presence in the courtroom this Friday may push attorneys 
representing BofA, et al., to adopt a more professional, civil demeanor 
and may also help the judge to interpret any ambiguity in the law in 
favor of the public over big business.


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


_______________________


[1] Lawrence Lessig (2011) Republic, Lost:  How Money Corrupts Congress 
-- and a Plan to Stop It (Twelve, p. 117);  Wikipedia, "Conflict of 
Interest".


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:www.structuremonitoring.com



From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Tue Aug 14 09:50:43 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:50:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] candidate endorsements
In-Reply-To: <1344960003.64038.androidMobile@web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1344960003.64038.androidMobile@web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <502A81E3.4060603@prodsyse.com>

Hi, Rob:  I agree with Drew:  It would be most helpful if you can come 
23 August, 7 PM, San Jos? Peace and Justice Center, 47 S. 7th St., San 
Jos?.  We'd like to hear more about your platform, top priorities, etc.  
Thanks, Spencer


On 8/14/2012 9:00 AM, Drew wrote:
>
> Thank you for running Rob and giving us the opportunity to endorse you 
> and work on your behalf! I think you're our only local candidate in 
> November (due to the disastrous Prop 14 "Richest two" primary). Would 
> you be available to come give your pitch to the General Meeting August 
> 23rd? The General Meeting could endorse you, or (if necessary due to 
> extenuating circumstances) the Council could do it. Currently I 
> believe the Council includes Jim Doyle, Spencer Graves, Merriam 
> Kathryn and me. However, if possible I think most people find it more 
> satisfying if the General Meeting makes the decision.
>
> Green is Go!
>
> Drew
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
> *From**: *Rob Means ;
> *To**: *;
> *Subject**: *[GPSCC-chat] candidate endorsements
> *Sent**: *Tue, Aug 14, 2012 3:34:06 PM
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Here in Milpitas, I am the only candidate standing for Mayor against 
> the incumbent, Jose Esteves.  I want the endorsement of the Santa 
> Clara County Green Party.  Who would I talk with about that possibility?
> -- 
> Rob Means, 2012 MilpitasMayoralCandidate
> 408-262-8975 rob.means at electric-bikes.com
> 1421 YellowstoneAve., Milpitas, CA95035-6913
> MeansForDemocracy.org(bus. = electric-bikes.com)
> Standingfor the Constitution, democracy, and the middleclass.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>
> On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 12:00 -0700, 
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>     15 Sept. 1-4 PM re. foreclosures (Spencer Graves)
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:32:59 -0700 From: Spencer
>     Graves To: GPSCC Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Your attendance is
>     requested this Friday, 17 Aug, 9 AM and Sat. 15 Sept. 1-4 PM re.
>     foreclosures Message-ID: <50291E2B.8070204 at prodsyse.com>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>     Hello, All: FRIDAY, 9 AM, 17 AUGUST: REQUEST RESTRAINING ORDER
>     AGAINST BANK OF AMERICA ATTORNEY, SANTA CLARA COUNTY SUPERIOR
>     COURT, DEPT. 18, 161 NORTH FIRST STREET, SAN JOS?, CA An important
>     hearing is scheduled for 9 AM this Friday, 17 August in Santa
>     Clara County Superior Court, Dept. 18, 161 North First Street in
>     San Jose: David (Merritt) is requesting a restraining order
>     against Goliath (Attorney James Goldberg representing Bank of
>     America, et al.) in response to alleged unprofessional and illegal
>     physical and verbal assault on David and Salma Merritt and
>     witnesses during a court-ordered deposition of Salma Merritt. We
>     all want to believe that our courts are fair and impartial.
>     Unfortunately, most major incumbent politicians these days have
>     been elected with massive "contributions" from big money, who on
>     average receive massive returns on those investments estimated at
>     between $6 and $220 for each $1 invested in lobbying and political
>     campaigns.[1] Judicial appointments are often made based on the
>     preferences of major campaign contributors.[2] Your presence in
>     the courtroom at that time might help the judge to interpret any
>     ambiguity in the law in favor of David. SATURDAY, 1 - 4 PM, 15
>     SEPTEMBER: FORECLOSURE SUMMIT, NEW COMMUNITY OF FAITH, 6350
>     RAINBOW DRIVE, SAN JOS?, CA A Foreclosure Summit is scheduled for
>     Saturday, 15 Sept., 1-4 PM, at the New Community of Faith church,
>     6350 Rainbow Drive, San Jose, CA, co-sponsored by Occupy San Jos?,
>     the Green Party of Santa Clara County, and others. The program
>     will consist of presentations by leaders in the fight against
>     illegal foreclosures, followed by small group discussions of the
>     issues and ending with an open discussion of the possible next
>     steps. For more information, see "Foreclosure Summit",
>     occupy.pbworks.com (http
>     <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>:// <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>occupy.pbworks.com
>     <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>/w/ <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>page
>     <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>/54238941/
>     <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>Foreclosure
>     <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>%20Summit
>     <http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit>).
>     In Santa Clara County alone, an estimated 24 families have lost
>     their homes every day since Oct. 2007. This crisis is forecasted
>     to continue through 2015. I believe that concerned citizens can
>     reverse this trend and roll back the changes in law over the past
>     35 years, especially the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999, that
>     have given the finance industry a third of US domestic corporate
>     profits since 2000 and restore sanity and stability to
>     international finance. However, we cannot do it alone. Best
>     Wishes, Spencer _______________________ [1] Lawrence Lessig (2011)
>     Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Congress -- and a Plan to Stop
>     It (Twelve, p. 117); Wikipedia, "Conflict of Interest". [2] "Mount
>     Principal James L. Stoelker Appointed to Superior Court", Dec. 17,
>     2010, Mount, Spelman and Fingerman, attorneys (www.mount.com
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Tue Aug 14 22:20:28 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:20:28 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Help Get Adam to The Nation
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W21934E81CAA1AFB08103639EB60@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY165-W21934E81CAA1AFB08103639EB60@phx.gbl>
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I met Adam Hudson when he was the leader of the Action Condi Group at Stanford, trying
make Dr. Condoleezza Rice accountable for her crimes associated with torture and aggressive
war.  I got to know him better when we both volunteered as after-school tutors at the 49er 
Academy in East Palo Alto.  Adam is from Pittsburg, California (near Antioch), he majored 
in International Relations, and at Stanford he did not allow the temptations of the prospect 
of a high-flying career to corrupt him.  

Adam will be starting an internship at The Nation magazine in September.  He needs money
to get to New York.  I considered it a privilege to participate in this auspicious undertaking.
I hope you will consider giving ten or twenty dollars (or more!) to give Adam a big vote of
confidence.

Here's his bio:  http://adamhudson.org/about/

Here's his blog:  http://adamhudson.org/

Here's the fundraising page:  http://www.gofundme.com/11fz2k?utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Emails






 		 	   		   		 	   		  
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 15 08:59:50 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:59:50 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Unlimited PAC Dollars Distort Democracy Covertly
Message-ID: <BAY165-W111732E0019F2F69FC5F9C9EB60@phx.gbl>


I heard a story on NPR (and I can't now recall the particulars) about a progressive
candidate in the Sacramento area, a college professor whose shoestring campaign
was surprisingly successful and who was very close to winning.  In the last week
before the election a blitz of attack ads funded by contributors from outside the
district knocked the professor down.  The program made the point that candidates 
that threaten the status quo must expect to face misleading or even lying ad 
campaigns funded by groups with names like "Citizens for Rational Tax Policies", 
and this inhibits those who might be inclined to speak out against the powerful 
and wealthy special interests.

Disclosure of who exactly is funding political ads is a first step toward reversing 
the effects of this flood of PAC money.

The California DISCLOSE Act will be considered in the CA state legislature this
month.  The immediate need is for letters to Senate President Pro Tem Darrell
Steinberg, asking him to make passing AB1648 a priority.




Handwritten letters really stand out.  Please take a few minutes to write him a 
hand-written letter (even a few sentences).  Include in your letter one or two 
points below and use your own words:

Thank him for being such a strong advocate of Clean Money and campaign 
finance reform.

Voters have the right to know who?s paying for political ads so they can make
 informed decisions.

It?s time to stop special interests from deceiving voters when they hide who?s
 paying for political ads.

It?s a good idea to make sure that political ads have to clearly state who their
 largest funders are.  If federal candidates have to stand by their ad, then 
special interests should, too.

You are happy that the California Democratic Party endorses, as well as the 
more than 300 other organizations and leaders that endorse it.

You strongly agree with the 84% of Californians in the Field Poll who want
this kind of disclosure.

What are opponents to real disclosure trying to hide?

California can lead the way for the rest of the country for real disclosure!

Also be sure to say something like:
How much it would mean to you if he took leadership by co-authoring 
AB 1648 and doing everything he can to help the California DISCLOSE Act pass.
_______________________________________________________________________________
Example Letter ? PLEASE USE YOUR OWN WORDS!
Your Name
Your Address
Your City, CA  Your Zip



Senate President pro Tem Darrell Steinberg    
State Capitol, Room 205                           
Sacramento, CA 95814    
                     
Dear Senator Steinberg,

Thank you for being such a strong advocate of Clean Money and campaign
 finance reform .  AB 1648, the California DISCLOSE Act, is a crucial bill,
 because we need to stop special interests from deceiving voters when they 
hide who?s paying for their political ads.

California has the chance to lead the way for the rest of the country for 
real disclosure.  It will mean a lot to me if you make sure it passes!
    
Sincerely,

<Your Signature>
 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Wed Aug 15 11:13:17 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 11:13:17 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: We're hiring! Also, statements on Paul Ryan,
 Sikh shootings, Occupy Fannie Mae!
In-Reply-To: <502bc6ab1d6f0_4ea055313866543@app3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail>
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From vdf at juno.com  Wed Aug 15 21:01:10 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:01:10 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [gpca-forum] Fwd: CCC Webinar: Planning for
	Election Day 9/4
Message-ID: <20120815.210110.29363.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com>

Hi everyone,

This discussion sounds like it would be helpful for those of us who will volunteer for the Jill Stein campaign (and/or the Rob Means campaign, if we end up endorsing him, and/or the next Laura Wells campaign, etc.).

The web page for the GPUS's Coordinated Campaign Committee is:
http://www.gp.org/committees/campaign/index.php

On that page they have a link for folks to sign up using the following form:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHZ2dllDc2tyV3lhS3FUcTZKX3kwUWc6MQ#gid=0

Best regards,
Valerie Face

~*~*~*~
Town Cats of Morgan Hill will have discounted adoption fees from August 10 to August 19.
See http://www.towncats.org for details.


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From: Sanda Everette <sanda.greensolutions at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:34:41 -0700
To: GPCA Forum <gpca-forum at cagreens.org>
Cc: Delegates from GPCA to GPUS <gpus-del at cagreens.org>
Subject: [gpca-forum] Fwd:  CCC Webinar: Planning for Election Day 9/4

Share with campaigns and campaigners. 

Sanda
Writing from tiny communication device 


Begin forwarded message:

> 
> The Coordinated Campaign Committee invites you to our first monthly webinar...
> 
> PLANNING FOR ELECTION DAY
> Tuesday, September 4th, 9-10 PM Eastern
> 
> This webinar is designed for candidates, and those active in Green campaigns, to learn more about campaign strategy.  This particular session will focus on:
> 
> * preparing to have an effective presence at the polls
> * best material distribution strategies
> * how to talk to potential voters
> * targeting constituencies
> * and use of volunteers for things such as door knocking and phone banking
> 
> This call is also ideal for those coordinating local efforts on the Stein/Honkala campaign.
> 
> This webinar will be led by CCC member and Green Officeholder Jesse Townley.  Read more about Jesse below.
> 
> Jesse Townley is an elected member of the Berkeley Rent Board, which administers the city's rent control ordinance. He was first elected to the Rent Board in 2008, and re-elected to a 4-year post as the highest vote-getter in 2010. He ran for Berkeley City Council unsuccessfully in 2004 in a 3-way race, and was the Volunteer Coordinator for Aimee Allison's 2005 campaign for Oakland City Council.  He's also volunteered on umpteen campaigns doing everything from knocking on doors, making phone calls, and setting up fundraisers.
> 
> And save the date for the October call -- GETTING OUT THE VOTE -- Tuesday, October 2nd, 9 PM Eastern.
> ______________________________
> 
> For other information about the Coordinating Committee, see:
> http://gp.org/committees/nc/
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 15 23:18:16 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:18:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Breaking--Ecaudor Says British Police Threaten to
	Seize Assange
Message-ID: <BAY165-W39F40D554C3CCF02A353B9EB50@phx.gbl>


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-16/ecuador-says-u-k-threatens-embassy-assault-to-seize-assange.html

OccupyNewsNetwork says that 10 officers went inside the embassy and have not left yet.  It's early in
the morning in London.  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 16 00:34:59 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:34:59 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Breaking--Ecaudor Says British Police Threaten to
 Seize Assange
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W39F40D554C3CCF02A353B9EB50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY165-W39F40D554C3CCF02A353B9EB50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <502CA2A3.8020709@earthlink.net>


This is a very strange story.  I thought that an embassy
was considered to be part of the country it represents,
so if the police were to enter the embassy and do anything
not acceptable, it would be considered like an invasion,
a very serious matter.  I don't recall any other occasion
of invasion of embassy, other than the Iranian invasion
of the U.S. Embassy in 1978, which was a very serious matter.

What have I misunderstood?

Gerry


Brian Good wrote:
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-16/ecuador-says-u-k-threatens-embassy-assault-to-seize-assange.html
>
> OccupyNewsNetwork says that 10 officers went inside the embassy and have
> not left yet.  It's early in
> the morning in London. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 16 00:44:11 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:44:11 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Breaking--Ecaudor Says British Police Threaten to
 Seize Assange
In-Reply-To: <502CA2A3.8020709@earthlink.net>
References: <BAY165-W39F40D554C3CCF02A353B9EB50@phx.gbl>,
	<502CA2A3.8020709@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY165-W1493D41056E369AE7ECB819EB50@phx.gbl>



I had the same understanding.  Looks like the Brits, along with the US, are trying to
rewrite the rules of diplomacy and war to fit the wishes of the global dominators.

The Esquire article about Obama's Lethal Presidency concluded by asking--if it's
OK for Obama to fire hellfire missiles at anyone he wants, then isn't it okay for
anyone to fire missiles at him?

These are interesting times.  Too bad so few recognize it.



> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:34:59 -0700
> From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
> To: snug.bug at hotmail.com
> CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Breaking--Ecaudor Says British Police Threaten to Seize Assange
> 
> 
> This is a very strange story.  I thought that an embassy
> was considered to be part of the country it represents,
> so if the police were to enter the embassy and do anything
> not acceptable, it would be considered like an invasion,
> a very serious matter.  I don't recall any other occasion
> of invasion of embassy, other than the Iranian invasion
> of the U.S. Embassy in 1978, which was a very serious matter.
> 
> What have I misunderstood?
> 
> Gerry
> 
> 
> Brian Good wrote:
> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-16/ecuador-says-u-k-threatens-embassy-assault-to-seize-assange.html
> >
> > OccupyNewsNetwork says that 10 officers went inside the embassy and have
> > not left yet.  It's early in
> > the morning in London. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 16 02:30:38 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:30:38 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Breaking--Ecaudor Says British Police Threaten to
 Seize Assange
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W1493D41056E369AE7ECB819EB50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY165-W39F40D554C3CCF02A353B9EB50@phx.gbl>,
	<502CA2A3.8020709@earthlink.net>
	<BAY165-W1493D41056E369AE7ECB819EB50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <502CBDBE.80702@earthlink.net>


Here's what Wikileaks has to say:
http://wikileaks.org/Statement-on-UK-threat-to-storm.html

Also, I have tried to contact the UK and Ecuadorean
governments by email and contact forms, so far no
luck.

Gerry


Brian Good wrote:
>
> I had the same understanding.  Looks like the Brits, along with the US,
> are trying to
> rewrite the rules of diplomacy and war to fit the wishes of the global
> dominators.
>
> The Esquire article about Obama's Lethal Presidency concluded by
> asking--if it's
> OK for Obama to fire hellfire missiles at anyone he wants, then isn't it
> okay for
> anyone to fire missiles at him?
>
> These are interesting times.  Too bad so few recognize it.
>
>
>
>  > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:34:59 -0700
>  > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
>  > To: snug.bug at hotmail.com
>  > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>  > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Breaking--Ecaudor Says British Police
> Threaten to Seize Assange
>  >
>  >
>  > This is a very strange story. I thought that an embassy
>  > was considered to be part of the country it represents,
>  > so if the police were to enter the embassy and do anything
>  > not acceptable, it would be considered like an invasion,
>  > a very serious matter. I don't recall any other occasion
>  > of invasion of embassy, other than the Iranian invasion
>  > of the U.S. Embassy in 1978, which was a very serious matter.
>  >
>  > What have I misunderstood?
>  >
>  > Gerry
>  >
>  >
>  > Brian Good wrote:
>  > >
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-16/ecuador-says-u-k-threatens-embassy-assault-to-seize-assange.html
>  > >
>  > > OccupyNewsNetwork says that 10 officers went inside the embassy and
> have
>  > > not left yet. It's early in
>  > > the morning in London. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>  > > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>  > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>  > >


From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Aug 16 04:26:45 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:26:45 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against
	Ecuador
Message-ID: <502CD8F5.1000108@prodsyse.com>

Hello, All:


	  You may know that the UK has threatened to invade the Ecuadorian 
embassy to capture Julian Assange in violation of international law that 
says that any nation's embassy is part of its sovereign territory.  This 
means that these threats by the UK constitute acts of war.


	  Please sign my campaign on change.org to oppose this and other 
illegal claims of government secrecy that threaten world peace and 
democracy: 
https://www.change.org/petitions/david-cameron-prime-minister-united-kingdom-stop-threatening-ecuador-and-illegal-claims-of-government-secrecy?share_id=VRVWUvhCTt&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition


	  Thanks,
	  Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com





From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 08:36:06 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against
	Ecuador
In-Reply-To: <502CD8F5.1000108@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <1345131366.42227.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Ecuador has granted Assange asylum.? The UK has not yet stormed the Ecuadorian embassy in London.? Tune in to www.rt.com for regular updates (more reliable than the live streams by Occupy that are no longer live this AM.)

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com> wrote:


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against Ecuador
To: "GPSCC" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:26 AM


Hello, All:


??? ? You may know that the UK has threatened to invade the Ecuadorian embassy to capture Julian Assange in violation of international law that says that any nation's embassy is part of its sovereign territory.? This means that these threats by the UK constitute acts of war.


??? ? Please sign my campaign on change.org to oppose this and other illegal claims of government secrecy that threaten world peace and democracy: https://www.change.org/petitions/david-cameron-prime-minister-united-kingdom-stop-threatening-ecuador-and-illegal-claims-of-government-secrecy?share_id=VRVWUvhCTt&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition


??? ? Thanks,
??? ? Spencer


-- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:? 408-655-4567
web:? www.structuremonitoring.com



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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Aug 16 09:26:48 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:26:48 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against
 Ecuador
In-Reply-To: <1345131366.42227.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1345131366.42227.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <502D1F48.3080402@prodsyse.com>

Hi, John, et al.:


       Thanks for the update, John.  It sounds like this is still a live 
issue and action via change.org and otherwise could have an impact.


       If you have not yet signed onto the petition at change.org (see 
below), I encourage you to do so.


       Also, I found a phone number for the British Consulate in San 
Francisco:  (415) 617 1300.  I selected option 4 then 1.  I got a human 
and expressed my concern about the British threats on Ecuadorian 
sovereign territory and about their actions against Assange, whose crime 
appears to have been to share with the public information that was 
illegally kept as government secrets.  He said, "OK.  I'll pass on your 
comments about that."  I should have asked a question but didn't.  If 
anyone does, please let us know.


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


On 8/16/2012 8:36 AM, John Thielking wrote:
> Ecuador has granted Assange asylum.  The UK has not yet stormed the 
> Ecuadorian embassy in London.  Tune in to www.rt.com 
> <http://www.rt.com> for regular updates (more reliable than the live 
> streams by Occupy that are no longer live this AM.)
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/16/12, Spencer Graves /<spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>/* 
> wrote:
>
>
>     From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>     Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats
>     against Ecuador
>     To: "GPSCC" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:26 AM
>
>     Hello, All:
>
>
>           You may know that the UK has threatened to invade the
>     Ecuadorian embassy to capture Julian Assange in violation of
>     international law that says that any nation's embassy is part of
>     its sovereign territory.  This means that these threats by the UK
>     constitute acts of war.
>
>
>           Please sign my campaign on change.org to oppose this and
>     other illegal claims of government secrecy that threaten world
>     peace and democracy:
>     https://www.change.org/petitions/david-cameron-prime-minister-united-kingdom-stop-threatening-ecuador-and-illegal-claims-of-government-secrecy?share_id=VRVWUvhCTt&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
>
>
>           Thanks,
>           Spencer
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>     sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>     <http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 10:01:43 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:01:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against
	Ecuador
In-Reply-To: <502D1F48.3080402@prodsyse.com>
Message-ID: <1345136503.42656.YahooMailClassic@web111114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello,
?
I spent part of last night trying to contact UK govt agencies that were actually open during those hours. The SF and LA (that serves HI) offices of the UK Consulates were both closed at 6PM when I called. I eventually called the UK Consulate in Tokyo Japan.? The operator was apparently not the right person to talk to as she didn't have a clue about how to escalate my complaint about the treatment of Assange. She gave me a phone number for the Foreign Office in the UK which is allegedly?staffed 24/7, but I couldn't figure out how to dial it correctly from my Skype phone.? The number is 020-7008-1500. You are supposed to dial 011-44 before that # when dialing from the US, but my Skype phone did not compute that correctly, even when I deleted the 0 before the 20 as suggested by the operator in Japan.
?
Eventually, I found the e-mail address for the UK Foreign Office:
feedback.consular.services at fco.gov.uk
I got an automated reply saying that my e-mail would be deleted and not forwarded if it?fell into some narrow categories of business having to do with travel arrangements that should be addressed by other agencies.? Oh well.? Good luck.
?
John Thielking

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com> wrote:


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against Ecuador
To: "John Thielking" <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Cc: "GPSCC" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 9:26 AM




Hi, John, et al.:? 


????? Thanks for the update, John.? It sounds like this is still a live issue and action via change.org and otherwise could have an impact.? 


????? If you have not yet signed onto the petition at change.org (see below), I encourage you to do so.? 


????? Also, I found a phone number for the British Consulate in San Francisco:? (415) 617 1300.? I selected option 4 then 1.? I got a human and expressed my concern about the British threats on Ecuadorian sovereign territory and about their actions against Assange, whose crime appears to have been to share with the public information that was illegally kept as government secrets.? He said, "OK.? I'll pass on your comments about that."? I should have asked a question but didn't.? If anyone does, please let us know.? 


????? Best Wishes, 
????? Spencer 


On 8/16/2012 8:36 AM, John Thielking wrote:





Ecuador has granted Assange asylum.? The UK has not yet stormed the Ecuadorian embassy in London.? Tune in to www.rt.com for regular updates (more reliable than the live streams by Occupy that are no longer live this AM.)

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com> wrote:


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against Ecuador
To: "GPSCC" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:26 AM


Hello, All:


??? ? You may know that the UK has threatened to invade the Ecuadorian embassy to capture Julian Assange in violation of international law that says that any nation's embassy is part of its sovereign territory.? This means that these threats by the UK constitute acts of war.


??? ? Please sign my campaign on change.org to oppose this and other illegal claims of government secrecy that threaten world peace and democracy: https://www.change.org/petitions/david-cameron-prime-minister-united-kingdom-stop-threatening-ecuador-and-illegal-claims-of-government-secrecy?share_id=VRVWUvhCTt&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition


??? ? Thanks,
??? ? Spencer


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 16 10:33:54 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:33:54 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats against
 Ecuador
In-Reply-To: <1345136503.42656.YahooMailClassic@web111114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1345136503.42656.YahooMailClassic@web111114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <502D2F02.5000602@earthlink.net>


Last night I tried sending an email to
     publiccorrespondence at cabinet-office.x.gsi.gov.uk
and got back a message that the mailbox is full.
Then I tried the form at
     http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/ministerial-feedback-form
and got "We are currently experiencing technical problems
with FCO websites."

I tried again this morning.  Same result with the email
address.  Success with the web page, but who knows when
they will look at it.

I also tried to contact the Ecuadorean government.  I
could not find a valid email address.  I tried finding
an email address for the Ecuadorean Embassy in Washington.
I found email addresses for the Embassy and for the
Consulate in Washington.  I sent an email to the
Consulate but it bounced, "Unrouteable address",
(permanent error).

Because I could not get through to the UK government
last night, I tried sending an email to a journalist
at the UK Guardian.  I first tried his email at the
Guardian, but it bounced.  I then tried his hotmail
email address, and I have not received a bounce
message.

I also tried to contact the U.S. State Department.
I found a 2 step process that appears to work:

- go to http://contact-us.state.gov/app/answers/list
- click on "E-mail a question or comment"

Gerry


John Thielking wrote:
> Hello,
> I spent part of last night trying to contact UK govt agencies that were
> actually open during those hours. The SF and LA (that serves HI) offices
> of the UK Consulates were both closed at 6PM when I called. I eventually
> called the UK Consulate in Tokyo Japan.  The operator was apparently not
> the right person to talk to as she didn't have a clue about how to
> escalate my complaint about the treatment of Assange. She gave me a
> phone number for the Foreign Office in the UK which is allegedly staffed
> 24/7, but I couldn't figure out how to dial it correctly from my Skype
> phone.  The number is 020-7008-1500. You are supposed to dial 011-44
> before that # when dialing from the US, but my Skype phone did not
> compute that correctly, even when I deleted the 0 before the 20 as
> suggested by the operator in Japan.
> Eventually, I found the e-mail address for the UK Foreign Office:
> feedback.consular.services at fco.gov.uk
> <mailto:feedback.consular.services at fco.gov.uk>
> I got an automated reply saying that my e-mail would be deleted and not
> forwarded if it fell into some narrow categories of business having to
> do with travel arrangements that should be addressed by other agencies.
> Oh well.  Good luck.
> John Thielking
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/16/12, Spencer Graves /<spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>     Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK threats
>     against Ecuador
>     To: "John Thielking" <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>     Cc: "GPSCC" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>     Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 9:26 AM
>
>     Hi, John, et al.:
>
>
>            Thanks for the update, John.  It sounds like this is still a
>     live issue and action via change.org and otherwise could have an
>     impact.
>
>
>            If you have not yet signed onto the petition at change.org
>     (see below), I encourage you to do so.
>
>
>            Also, I found a phone number for the British Consulate in San
>     Francisco:  (415) 617 1300.  I selected option 4 then 1.  I got a
>     human and expressed my concern about the British threats on
>     Ecuadorian sovereign territory and about their actions against
>     Assange, whose crime appears to have been to share with the public
>     information that was illegally kept as government secrets.  He said,
>     "OK.  I'll pass on your comments about that."  I should have asked a
>     question but didn't.  If anyone does, please let us know.
>
>
>            Best Wishes,
>            Spencer
>
>
>     On 8/16/2012 8:36 AM, John Thielking wrote:
>>     Ecuador has granted Assange asylum.  The UK has not yet stormed
>>     the Ecuadorian embassy in London.  Tune in to www.rt.com
>>     <http://www.rt.com/> for regular updates (more reliable than the
>>     live streams by Occupy that are no longer live this AM.)
>>
>>     --- On *Thu, 8/16/12, Spencer Graves
>>     /<spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>>     <http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>/*
>>     wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>>         <http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>>         Subject: [GPSCC-chat] change.org petition against the UK
>>         threats against Ecuador
>>         To: "GPSCC" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>>         <http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>>         Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:26 AM
>>
>>         Hello, All:
>>
>>
>>               You may know that the UK has threatened to invade the
>>         Ecuadorian embassy to capture Julian Assange in violation of
>>         international law that says that any nation's embassy is part
>>         of its sovereign territory.  This means that these threats by
>>         the UK constitute acts of war.
>>
>>
>>               Please sign my campaign on change.org to oppose this and
>>         other illegal claims of government secrecy that threaten world
>>         peace and democracy:
>>         https://www.change.org/petitions/david-cameron-prime-minister-united-kingdom-stop-threatening-ecuador-and-illegal-claims-of-government-secrecy?share_id=VRVWUvhCTt&utm_campaign=mailto_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
>>
>>
>>               Thanks,
>>               Spencer
>>
>>
>>         _______________________________________________
>>         sosfbay-discuss mailing list
>>         sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>         <http://us.mc1111.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
>>         http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
>>
>
>
>     --
>     Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
>     President and Chief Technology Officer
>     Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
>     751 Emerson Ct.
>     San Jos?, CA 95126
>     ph:  408-655-4567
>     web:www.structuremonitoring.com  <http://www.structuremonitoring.com/>
>
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>
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 16 16:54:38 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:54:38 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
Message-ID: <BAY165-W64578904415C759AEBE33D9EB50@phx.gbl>


Ambassador Craig Murray (former British ambassador to Uzbekistan), blogs (red bold mine):
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/08/americas-vassal-acts-decisively-and-illegally/

America?s Vassal Acts Decisively and Illegally

I returned to the UK today to be astonished by private confirmation 
from within the FCO that the UK 
government has indeed decided ? after 
immense pressure from the Obama administration ? to enter 
the Ecuadorean
 Embassy and seize Julian Assange.

This will be, beyond any argument, a blatant breach of the Vienna 
Convention of 1961, to which 
the UK is one of the original parties and 
which encodes the centuries ? arguably millennia ? of practice 
which have enabled diplomatic relations to function.  The Vienna Convention is
 the most subscribed single international treaty in the world.

The provisions of the Vienna Convention
 on the status of diplomatic premises are expressed in deliberately 
absolute terms.  There is no modification or qualification elsewhere in 
the treaty. 


Article 22
1.The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State 
may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.

2.The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises

of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the

mission or impairment of its dignity.

3.The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of

transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.

Not even the Chinese government tried to enter the US Embassy to arrest the Chinese dissident Chen 
Guangchen.  Even during the decades of the Cold War, defectors or dissidents were never seized from 
each other?s embassies.  Murder in Samarkand
 relates in detail my attempts in the British Embassy to 
help Uzbek 
dissidents.  This terrible breach of international law will result in 
British Embassies being 
subject to raids and harassment worldwide. 


The government?s calculation is that, unlike Ecuador, Britain is a 
strong enough power to deter such intrusions.  This is yet another 
symptom of the ?might is right? principle in international relations, in
 the era of the neo-conservative abandonment of the idea of the rule of 
international law.

The British Government bases its argument on domestic British 
legislation.  But the domestic legislation 
of a country cannot counter 
its obligations in international law, unless it chooses to withdraw 
from them.  If the government does not wish to follow the obligations 
imposed on it by the Vienna 
Convention, it has the right to resile from 
it ? which would leave British diplomats with no protection worldwide. 


I hope to have more information soon on the threats used by the US 
administration.  William Hague 
had been supporting the move against the 
concerted advice of his own officials; Ken Clarke has been 
opposing the 
move against the advice of his.  I gather the decision to act has been 
taken in Number 10. 


There appears to have been no input of any kind from the Liberal 
Democrats.  That opens a wider 
question ? there appears to be no 
?liberal? impact now in any question of coalition policy.  It is amazing
 how government salaries and privileges and ministerial limousines are 
worth far more than any belief 
to these people.  I cannot now conceive 
how I was a member of that party for over thirty years,deluded into a 
genuine belief that they had principles.
 		 	   		  
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 21:08:35 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:08:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W64578904415C759AEBE33D9EB50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1345176515.84271.YahooMailClassic@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

The blog posting that you are referencing is from 11:30AM August 16, 2012.? Word came of Assange getting asylum at 1PM in London on August 16, 2012.? According to the broadcast on www.rt.com?at about 12PM PST August 16, 2012, the spokesperson for the UK rescinded the threat to storm the embassy.? Also, an article published at 17:00 EST August 16, 2012?here 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2189515/The-WikiLeaks-siege-fiasco-As-tiny-Ecuador-saves-Assange-extradition-granting-asylum-40-police-surround-embassy--steps-outside-ll-pounce.html
?
says that the threat to storm the embassy was a mistake.
?
Currently, the only news is that 4 hours ago wikileaks tweeted onto Facebook that 35 police officers were still surrounding the embassy (12:30AM London time August 17, 2012).
?
Both live streams that were covering the situation in the early morning of August 16, 2012 are currently not broadcasting live feeds.? They are located at:
http://bambuser.com/v/2905636
(this one is currently broadcasting a recording from August 16, 2012)
?
and
?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
?
According to the rt.com broadcast just now, Mr Hauge of the UK Foreign Office denied that his office ever issued a threat to storm the embassy.? Ecuador says that they recieved a letter saying that the UK might storm the embassy.? The rt.com web site is currently too busy to handle requests.? rt is broadcast on Comcast channel 103. That is all for now.
?
John Thielking

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:54 PM






Ambassador Craig Murray (former British ambassador to Uzbekistan), blogs (red bold mine):
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/08/americas-vassal-acts-decisively-and-illegally/

America?s Vassal Acts Decisively and Illegally

I returned to the UK today to be astonished by private confirmation from within the FCO that the UK 

government has indeed decided ? after immense pressure from the Obama administration ? to enter 

the Ecuadorean Embassy and seize Julian Assange.


This will be, beyond any argument, a blatant breach of the Vienna Convention of 1961, to which 

the UK is one of the original parties and which encodes the centuries ? arguably millennia ? of practice 

which have enabled diplomatic relations to function. The Vienna Convention is the most subscribed single
international treaty in the world.


The provisions of the Vienna Convention on the status of diplomatic premises are expressed in
deliberately absolute terms. There is no modification or qualification elsewhere in the treaty. 



Article 22

1.The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State 

may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.

2.The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises
of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the
mission or impairment of its dignity.

3.The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of
transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.


Not even the Chinese government tried to enter the US Embassy to arrest the Chinese dissident Chen 

Guangchen. Even during the decades of the Cold War, defectors or dissidents were never seized from 

each other?s embassies. Murder in Samarkand relates in detail my attempts in the British Embassy to 

help Uzbek dissidents. This terrible breach of international law will result in British Embassies being 

subject to raids and harassment worldwide. 



The government?s calculation is that, unlike Ecuador, Britain is a strong enough power to deter such
intrusions. This is yet another symptom of the ?might is right? principle in international relations, in the
era of the neo-conservative abandonment of the idea of the rule of international law.


The British Government bases its argument on domestic British legislation. But the domestic legislation 

of a country cannot counter its obligations in international law, unless it chooses to withdraw 

from them. If the government does not wish to follow the obligations imposed on it by the Vienna 

Convention, it has the right to resile from it ? which would leave British diplomats with no protection worldwide. 



I hope to have more information soon on the threats used by the US administration. William Hague 

had been supporting the move against the concerted advice of his own officials; Ken Clarke has been 

opposing the move against the advice of his. I gather the decision to act has been taken in Number 10. 



There appears to have been no input of any kind from the Liberal Democrats. That opens a wider 

question ? there appears to be no ?liberal? impact now in any question of coalition policy. It is amazing
how government salaries and privileges and ministerial limousines are worth far more than any belief 

to these people. I cannot now conceive how I was a member of that party for over thirty years,
deluded into a genuine belief that they had principles.


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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 16 21:23:50 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Bradley Manning and Ambassador Craig Murray on
	Assange
In-Reply-To: <1345176515.84271.YahooMailClassic@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1345177430.75000.YahooMailClassic@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

In related news, there is a live feed of the protest at an Oakland, CA Obama campaign office to free Bradley Manning located here:
?
http://occupywallst.org/article/oakland-obama-office-occupied-support-pfc-manning-/

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>, "Brian Good" <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 9:08 PM







The blog posting that you are referencing is from 11:30AM August 16, 2012.? Word came of Assange getting asylum at 1PM in London on August 16, 2012.? According to the broadcast on www.rt.com?at about 12PM PST August 16, 2012, the spokesperson for the UK rescinded the threat to storm the embassy.? Also, an article published at 17:00 EST August 16, 2012?here 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2189515/The-WikiLeaks-siege-fiasco-As-tiny-Ecuador-saves-Assange-extradition-granting-asylum-40-police-surround-embassy--steps-outside-ll-pounce.html
?
says that the threat to storm the embassy was a mistake.
?
Currently, the only news is that 4 hours ago wikileaks tweeted onto Facebook that 35 police officers were still surrounding the embassy (12:30AM London time August 17, 2012).
?
Both live streams that were covering the situation in the early morning of August 16, 2012 are currently not broadcasting live feeds.? They are located at:
http://bambuser.com/v/2905636
(this one is currently broadcasting a recording from August 16, 2012)
?
and
?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
?
According to the rt.com broadcast just now, Mr Hauge of the UK Foreign Office denied that his office ever issued a threat to storm the embassy.? Ecuador says that they recieved a letter saying that the UK might storm the embassy.? The rt.com web site is currently too busy to handle requests.? rt is broadcast on Comcast channel 103. That is all for now.
?
John Thielking

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:54 PM






Ambassador Craig Murray (former British ambassador to Uzbekistan), blogs (red bold mine):
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/08/americas-vassal-acts-decisively-and-illegally/

America?s Vassal Acts Decisively and Illegally

I returned to the UK today to be astonished by private confirmation from within the FCO that the UK 

government has indeed decided ? after immense pressure from the Obama administration ? to enter 

the Ecuadorean Embassy and seize Julian Assange.


This will be, beyond any argument, a blatant breach of the Vienna Convention of 1961, to which 

the UK is one of the original parties and which encodes the centuries ? arguably millennia ? of practice 

which have enabled diplomatic relations to function. The Vienna Convention is the most subscribed single
international treaty in the world.


The provisions of the Vienna Convention on the status of diplomatic premises are expressed in
deliberately absolute terms. There is no modification or qualification elsewhere in the treaty. 



Article 22

1.The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State 

may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.

2.The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises
of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the
mission or impairment of its dignity.

3.The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of
transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.


Not even the Chinese government tried to enter the US Embassy to arrest the Chinese dissident Chen 

Guangchen. Even during the decades of the Cold War, defectors or dissidents were never seized from 

each other?s embassies. Murder in Samarkand relates in detail my attempts in the British Embassy to 

help Uzbek dissidents. This terrible breach of international law will result in British Embassies being 

subject to raids and harassment worldwide. 



The government?s calculation is that, unlike Ecuador, Britain is a strong enough power to deter such
intrusions. This is yet another symptom of the ?might is right? principle in international relations, in the
era of the neo-conservative abandonment of the idea of the rule of international law.


The British Government bases its argument on domestic British legislation. But the domestic legislation 

of a country cannot counter its obligations in international law, unless it chooses to withdraw 

from them. If the government does not wish to follow the obligations imposed on it by the Vienna 

Convention, it has the right to resile from it ? which would leave British diplomats with no protection worldwide. 



I hope to have more information soon on the threats used by the US administration. William Hague 

had been supporting the move against the concerted advice of his own officials; Ken Clarke has been 

opposing the move against the advice of his. I gather the decision to act has been taken in Number 10. 



There appears to have been no input of any kind from the Liberal Democrats. That opens a wider 

question ? there appears to be no ?liberal? impact now in any question of coalition policy. It is amazing
how government salaries and privileges and ministerial limousines are worth far more than any belief 

to these people. I cannot now conceive how I was a member of that party for over thirty years,
deluded into a genuine belief that they had principles.


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From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com  Fri Aug 17 09:38:20 2012
From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:38:20 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 1:30 hearing today,
 Santa Clara County Superior Court in David (Merritt) v. Goliath
 (Mozilo et al.)
Message-ID: <502E737C.3010705@structuremonitoring.com>

Hello, All:


	  We learned last night that the judge represented defendants in this 
case on numerous occasions prior to coming to the bench.  He failed to 
disclose this potential conflict of interest earlier and has repeatedly 
ruled in favor of his former clients, both in apparent violation of law. 
   Today, David will ask him to disqualify himself for cause.  The more 
people we get in the courtroom for this hearing, the greater the 
likelihood that he will comply with this request.



	  A message to this effect (below) has been sent to roughly 100 
representatives of media.  My wife and I will be there around 1 today; I 
will have to leave by 1:35 to make a 2 PM appointment elsewhere.  The 
attachment mentioned there is available at 
"http://www.scscourt.org/online_services/tentatives/sp_tr_dept18/friday.pdf"


	  This is the only case on the calendar for this 1:30 PM session, so it 
should start on time.  (I was 2 minutes late for a hearing a couple of 
months ago in an OSJ case and missed the whole thing.)


	  Hope to see you there.
	  Spencer 	


#################


An important anti-foreclosure proceeding will occur today at 1:30 p.m., 
Santa Clara County Superior Court, Old Courthouse, 161 North First 
Street San Jose, CA 95113.  This procedure is a fairly important hearing 
in a case with possible national repercussions, as it could reverse the 
increasing decriminalization of rich on poor financial fraud.


Defendants Countrywide Financial Corporation, Countrywide Home Loans, 
Inc. (now Bank of America), Angelo Mozilo, David Sarnbol, Michael 
Colyer?s and others (collectively ?Defendants?) have petitioned 
California Superior Court for a protective order that excludes all 
citizens including the media from a mandated deposition of Salma and 
David Merritt.  Judge Stoelker has issued a tentative ruling (attached) 
granting defendants protection from public scrutiny.  This ruling 
appears to violate the California constitution requiring public judicial 
procedings, pushing the Merritts into a potentially interminable secret 
star chamber proceeding.  Video recordings of the first days of said 
deposition shows defense attorney Goldberg browbeating and abusing Mrs. 
Merritt with excessive and unprofessional profane language.


Today David will ask Judge Stoelker to disqualify himself for cause, as 
prior to coming to the bench, he represented defendants in this case in 
numerous similar proceedings.  In previous rulings in this case, he has 
consistently decided in favor of his previous clients.


David claims to have compiled evidence of felonious behavior on the part 
of defendants relating to a predatory loan the Merritts received in 
2006. At that time, representatives of Countrywide manipulated events to 
present the Merritts with the choice of forfeiting a $36,000 down 
payment or signing a contract without reading it. They signed.  When 
they read the contract, they learned that a promised 30-year mortgage 
with monthly payments of roughly $2,000 had been replaced by a 
complicated interest-only contract with teaser monthly payments starting 
at $4,500 and a balloon payment 30 years later of $720,000. This 
high-pressure bait-and-switch sales tactic may have been typical of many 
loans. If so, it may help explain the current fragility of international 
financial markets and the massive transfer of wealth from the poor and 
middle class to the ultra wealthy in recent years.


In the present case, Judge Stoelker has ruled repeatedly against the 
Merritts' discovery motions to obtain documents similar to those used 25 
years ago during the Savings and Loan scandal to prove the complicity of 
senior executives.


More information is contained in Judge Stoelker's tentative ruling in 
this case (attached; please disregard the 9 AM time mentioned there: the 
hearing is scheduled for 1:30 PM).


For more information, call Spencer Graves, 408-655-4567, or David 
Merritt, 408-469-5584.


Thanks,
Spencer Graves


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com






-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com


From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 17 13:43:34 2012
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:43:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein articcles in progressive publications
Message-ID: <502EACF6.40901@sbcglobal.net>

The July issue of *In These Times* has an article in which three
people are asked a few questions.  The article includes a
4" x 4" color photo of Jill Stein.

The cover of that issue mentions said article:  Green Party presidential
candidate Jill Stein debates strategy.

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/13348/the_season_of_electoral_angst/


Next, The biweekly newspaper *The Progressive Populist* has an article 
entitled


  Third Parties Win by Losing

The author acknowledges the chances of winning but also notes that
you can make a difference even if you do not win the election.  She
also writes that the combination of ballot access in 21 states and the
access to matching funds makes the Green Party aserious contender.

http://www.populist.com/12.14.mcmillen.html


Finally, the September issue of *The Progressive* magazine has an artist's
sketch of Jill Stein as its cover page and The Third-Party Dilemna as
its featured 3 page article that includes another sketch of Jill Stein.

Jill is featured - she gets first licks - but comments from Bill 
Fletcher Jr.,
Katha Pollitt, Chris Hedges, and Medea Benjamin that address the
issue to vote or not to vote for a third party candidate are included.

http://www.populist.com/12.14.mcmillen.html




From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 17 14:01:13 2012
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:01:13 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] love and elections
Message-ID: <502EB119.7040703@sbcglobal.net>

Another comment from the author of
Third Parties Win by Losing

In the next election, it looks like,
we?ll be voting the way we have most of our lives.

That means we?ll be casting our ballots against the worst of them
instead of in favor of the best.

We remember the sweet, heady days of 2008, the cars honking
on the road, the champagne bottles popping, and remind each other
that we were once in love and it can happen again.

The current heartthrobs can restore our faith quickly by acting in our
best middle-class interests instead of in favor of the big corporations.

We?re at a tipping point, and we?re just waiting for the right smile from
the right Casanova.




From wrolley at charter.net  Fri Aug 17 15:13:24 2012
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:13:24 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein articcles in progressive publications
In-Reply-To: <502EACF6.40901@sbcglobal.net>
References: <502EACF6.40901@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <502EC204.3020402@charter.net>

On 8/17/2012 1:43 PM, Jim Doyle wrote:
> The July issue of *In These Times* has an article in which three
> people are asked a few questions.  The article includes a
> 4" x 4" color photo of Jill Stein.
>
Thanks for the reading list, Jim.

I follow Joe Romm's Climate Progress blog pretty closely.  Whenever the 
posts have political implications, and often when they don't, there are 
an increasing number of comments that sound like "if I am going to throw 
away my vote anyway, I'll throw it away on Jill Stein", or "why not vote 
for Jill Stein and the Greens.  They have the only platform that 
addresses climate change."   This list has at least 25K readers and they 
are getting a daily does of voting for Stein, and only some of it is 
from me.... on that list I almost always say Dr. Stein.

It is getting pretty clear that the ecologically literate climate hawks 
are running out of patience with Obama and his falling away from his 
first campaign rhetoric.


From leedobell at aol.com  Fri Aug 17 15:15:36 2012
From: leedobell at aol.com (Leedobell)
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:15:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda
Message-ID: <8CF4ADCF5C7B49D-BF4-A2600@angweb-usd022.sysops.aol.com>

 Who is doing the agenda for the meeting this month?
Caroline

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From vdf at juno.com  Sat Aug 18 01:48:02 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:48:02 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein articcles in progressive publications
Message-ID: <20120818.014802.913.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com>

Here's a link to an excerpt of the article in the September issue of "The Progressive":
http://www.progressive.org/third-party-dilemma

For the rest you'll need to subscribe or seek out a hard copy.

Valerie

---------- Original Message ----------
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:43:34 -0700
From: Jim Doyle <j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net>
To: sosfbay discussion group <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein articcles in progressive publications

The July issue of *In These Times* has an article in which three
people are asked a few questions.  The article includes a
4" x 4" color photo of Jill Stein.

The cover of that issue mentions said article:  Green Party presidential
candidate Jill Stein debates strategy.

http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/13348/the_season_of_electoral_angst/


Next, The biweekly newspaper *The Progressive Populist* has an article 
entitled


  Third Parties Win by Losing

The author acknowledges the chances of winning but also notes that
you can make a difference even if you do not win the election.  She
also writes that the combination of ballot access in 21 states and the
access to matching funds makes the Green Party aserious contender.

http://www.populist.com/12.14.mcmillen.html


Finally, the September issue of *The Progressive* magazine has an artist's
sketch of Jill Stein as its cover page and The Third-Party Dilemna as
its featured 3 page article that includes another sketch of Jill Stein.

Jill is featured - she gets first licks - but comments from Bill 
Fletcher Jr.,
Katha Pollitt, Chris Hedges, and Medea Benjamin that address the
issue to vote or not to vote for a third party candidate are included.

http://www.populist.com/12.14.mcmillen.html


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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 18 22:00:59 2012
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 22:00:59 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] url correction for the progressive
Message-ID: <5030730B.9070107@sbcglobal.net>

http://www.progressive.org/third-party-dilemma

Valerie pointed out that I duplicated one of the url's
in my posting re artic[c]les about Dr. Jill Stein.

Above is the correct one for the Progressive article -
however, the internet version is only an abstract.
They ask you to subscribe if you want to get the full article.

It is my intention to bring at least one copy of these articles
to our next meeting.

Jim Doyle


From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun Aug 19 15:20:11 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:20:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda/preparing draft agenda tonight
Message-ID: <5855c.493eb425.3d62c09b@aol.com>

August 19, 2012
 
Hi!  I volunteered to prepare a draft agenda for  Thursday's meeting.  I am 
behind in much work... including this.  I  expect to post a draft tonight.  
So far -- Treasurer's report; Status of  program on foreclosures; Ballot 
measures; Status of tabling supplies.  Send  requests for additional items 
ASAP.  Warner
 
 
In a message dated 8/17/2012 3:15:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
leedobell at aol.com writes:


Who is doing the agenda for the meeting this month?
Caroline



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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Sun Aug 19 15:53:19 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 18:53:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC
	Monthly General Meeting
Message-ID: <fb92.b59cd7f.3d62c85f@aol.com>

 
 
GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY 
Draft Agenda for Monthly General Membership Meeting August 23, 2012 
San  Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA  
(Near 7th and San Fernando) 
7:00 pm ? Eat and chat 
7:30 pm ? Begin meeting 
Select Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher(s), Select 
Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) 
Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) 
Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) 
County  Council Reports ? Discussions and actions taken since last month?s 
General  Membership meeting (10 minutes)  
Status  Report on Foreclosures Program ? Spencer Graves (10  minutes) 
September  15th at 
County  Polling Discussions ? Warner Bloomberg (30 minutes) See summary of 
ballot measures following the  draft agenda/Also report(s) from County 
Council Members re discussions on the  Standing General Assembly email lists 
Discussion of status of tabling supplies --  (10 Minutes) Ballot Measures 
Positions  Leaflets?  Jill Stein  Literature?  Other items?   
Plans  for Fall Tabling --          (15 Minutes) 

(2 Hours  x Minutes Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) 
The  GPSCC did not organize a study session regarding the November ballot 
measures  between last month?s meeting and this month?s meeting.  Below is a 
copy of an email posted to  the CCWG email list from the GPLAC study group. 
>Date:  Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
>From:  denise at panix.com
>Subject: Please Read - Our Endorsements re the November  election
>
>This is from our endorsement committee and our voting  members will 
>be making the final decision at our next meeting.  Please read:
>
>July 21,  2012 12-5pm LA GREENS ENDORSEMENT MEETING
>The following is the  recommendations of our endorsement committee. 
>The next step is the full  vote of the LA Greens membership at our 
>next meeting in order to  finalize the recommendations and publish 
>them on our website. We may  also produce flyers to hand out at 
>neighborhood  events.
>Attending: Derek Iversen, Kamran Ghasri, Linda Piera-Avila, Bruce  
>Campbell and Denise Robb. At 2pm Lisa Taylor joined us. Jennifer  
>Epps arrived from SAFE to give us information about Prop  34. 

>PROP  30 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS unanimous.
>We decided to endorse  both Prop 30 and Prop 38. Prop 30 is 
>Governors Browns tax on the wealthy  as well as a one-quarter percent 
>additional sales tax to fund education  and public safety. Our 
>reservations was that Prop 30 lumps in other  things besides 
>education like public safety. We dont dislike cops in  general 
>(except the ones that brutalize people). We just generally  prefer 
>more education funding to police funding. (However under prison  
>re-alignment, there are serious safety concerns unless the state can  
>provide some funds to counties and other localities to watch over  
>the 38,000 felons who will be transferred or released from state  
>prison in coming months.) Also, the regressive sales tax was a  
>concern. But it funds K-12 as well as community colleges and would  
>prevent the state from hurtling off a fiscal cliff. (Education is  
>in dire straits with furloughs, layoffs and community college  
>classes being cut left and right.)
>Proposition 38 is wealthy  Pasadena attorney (and human rights 
>advocate) Molly Mungers education  proposition that uses a 
>progressive income tax to fund only education.  It increases money 
>for poor and disabled children as well. While Mungers  will bring in 
>$10 billion, Browns will bring in only $8 billion. Our  reservations 
>with Mungers initiative are that the progressive income tax  begins 
>with individuals who make only $7,000 a year (approximately $28  
>more), as well as the argument by many state political observers  
>that California voters simply will not vote for more than one tax  
increase.
>
>PROPOSITION 31 STATE BUDGET We didnt completely  understand 
>it. The organizations that support it such as Common Cause  are good 
>groups and Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association opposes it,  which 
>would indicate it is likely to be a good reform measure. But we  
>couldnt wrap our brains around it. Kamran gave an in depth analysis  
>but we dont know what to do. The parts about decentralization,  
>shifting balance of power sound good. The parts about hamstringing  
>the legislature in terms of budget decisions may slow the budgeting  
>process down even further. It gives the Governor a lot of power to  
>declare a fiscal emergency and cut the budget unilaterally. The  
>unilateral power to the governor is our biggest concern. We say  NO. 

>Prop  32 NO. Union - Prohibits Political Contributions We hated 
>this  initiative. It is another nail in the coffin for unions. The 
>funders are  sketchy organizations and the opposition is every union 
>you could  imagine. 

>Prop  33 Auto Insurance. Instead of good driver discounts on car 
>insurance it  offers discounts to good payers meaning that if you 
>have already had car  insurance you will get a discount. But for 
>those who are poor or for  some reason had a lapse in coverage, their 
>rates will be higher. There  is an exemption for those who serve in 
>military or an exemption for 18  months within five years of 
>unemployment. It punishes people who have  had trouble 
>obtaining/affording car insurance by making them pay more  when they 
>finally can afford it again. We hate this one. They act like  
>they?re doing us a favor with this initiative but its another  
>corporate sponsored piece of crap where insurance companies are  
>trying to use this law to make more money for themselves. Please vote  NO. 

>PROP  34 Repeal Death Penalty: UNANIMOUS YES! 

>Prop  35 Human Trafficking Vote: 5 yesses, and 1 abstain til 
>further  information is obtained.
>
>There are 27 million slaves in the world  today, many of whom are sex 
>slaves. Los Angeles is a big hub for human  sex trafficking. The 
>internet is one easy way the criminals lure women.  It prevents the 
>person trafficked from being victimized for their past,  protects 
>minors and many other positive changes. The arguments made  against 
>this proposition were with regard to civil liberties and  concerns 
>that this involves the monitoring of traffickers internet  activity.
>
>Prop. 36 Amend Three Strikes You?re Out. Can?t be  thrown in jail for 
>a non-violent third strike. Unanimous. YES YES  YES.
>
>Prop 37 Genetically modified foods. A woman in Chico,  California 
>had a dream to put an initiative to label genetically  engineered 
>food in California. She got Organic Consumers Association and  
>Center for Food Safety and others to work out the wording and put  
>this on the ballot. Requires labeling on raw or processed foods  
>offered for retail sale (including g.e. animals) which are entirely  
>or partially genetically engineered using recombinant DNA  
>technology. Restaurants and bars are exempt from the ordinance which  
>would take effect on July 1st, 2014. Enthusiastic  YES! 

>PROP  38 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS 3 said yes with 
>reservations, 1  said neutral/abstain and another said no. vote:
>
>Prop 39 Tax  Treatment Multistate business. No one has formed to 
>oppose this at the  time of this writing.
>There was not an historic tax break for these  multi-state companies, 
>but the GOP extracted the break during budget  negotiations between 
>the Legislature and Arnold back in the '00s.  Passing Prop. 39 will 
>add $550 million for energy efficiency and clean  energy jobs in 
>California for each of the first 5 years, while that same  amount 
>would go toward the battered state budget. (All proceeds relating  
>to closing the corporate tax loophole would go to the state budget  
>after the 5-year period). Due to the Prop. 98 state budget formula,  
>about $225 million of the $550 million going to the state budget  
>would go to fund K-Community College education in the first 5 years  
>(with the education funding increasing to about $500 million after  
2017-2018).
>This closes the out-of-state corporate tax loophole. We  recommend 
>YES (unanimous).
>
>Prop 40.  Redistricting
>YES. Boy, is this complicated. But we will try to explain  it here. 
>Initially, this was a proposition that would have undone the  good 
>work done by the independent citizens redistricting commission who  
>got rid of the gerrymandered districts and redrew the boundaries for  
>state legislature and California congressional seats. The  
>Republican Party was very unhappy with the results of the redrawing  
>of the districts so they put this on the ballot. After it qualified  
>for the ballot, the California Supreme Court upheld the state senate  
>districts and said the lines were fine and it was done in compliance  
>with the Voting Rights Act. But it?s still on the ballot so in order  
>to keep the maps, we have to vote YES. Heres why: Since this is a  
>referendum, its a little different than your average  
>proposition. Its the reverse of an initiative in terms of  
>voting. A referendum means you are undoing a piece of legislation.  
>Voters are asked to either enact legislation or a constitutional  
>amendment (that has already been voted on by the voters or by the  
>legislature) in which case you would say YES keep the  
>legislation. This is even odder, however, because you are asked to  
>uphold not legislation but MAPS drawn by the commission. If you  
>want to repeal the maps you would vote NO. We do not recommend  
>repealing the work of the independent commission, so you need to  
>vote YES to uphold the maps that were already drawn by the  
>commission. Hanging in the balance are a few seats that may switch  
>from Republican to Democratic. Not because of politics but because  
>the independent commission determined the actual boundaries and they  
>happened to include more Democrats than Republicans. This could give  
>Democrats the 2/3 majority they have long sought in order to pass a  
>tax increase. Please vote  YES.
>
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 19 19:55:53 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:55:53 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: ACTION ALERT: Send an email to pass the CA
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 19 20:19:34 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:19:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Assange Speech
Message-ID: <5031ACC6.7050202@earthlink.net>


Julian Assange made a good speech to supporters and the
media from the Ecuadorean Embassy:

"Assange: 'The US War on Whistleblowers Must End'"
     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/08/19-0

It contains both a transcript and a video.

I think it's well worth reading and/or watching.

Gerry


From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 19 20:20:37 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:20:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
In-Reply-To: <1345176515.84271.YahooMailClassic@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1345432837.1740.YahooMailClassic@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Julian Assange and some of his supporters gave speeches in front of the Ecuadorian embassy in London on Sunday, August 19, 2012.? The 45 minute youtube video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr8d8BLBymI? Happy viewing!
?
John Thielking

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>, "Brian Good" <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 9:08 PM







The blog posting that you are referencing is from 11:30AM August 16, 2012.? Word came of Assange getting asylum at 1PM in London on August 16, 2012.? According to the broadcast on www.rt.com?at about 12PM PST August 16, 2012, the spokesperson for the UK rescinded the threat to storm the embassy.? Also, an article published at 17:00 EST August 16, 2012?here 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2189515/The-WikiLeaks-siege-fiasco-As-tiny-Ecuador-saves-Assange-extradition-granting-asylum-40-police-surround-embassy--steps-outside-ll-pounce.html
?
says that the threat to storm the embassy was a mistake.
?
Currently, the only news is that 4 hours ago wikileaks tweeted onto Facebook that 35 police officers were still surrounding the embassy (12:30AM London time August 17, 2012).
?
Both live streams that were covering the situation in the early morning of August 16, 2012 are currently not broadcasting live feeds.? They are located at:
http://bambuser.com/v/2905636
(this one is currently broadcasting a recording from August 16, 2012)
?
and
?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupynewsnetwork
?
According to the rt.com broadcast just now, Mr Hauge of the UK Foreign Office denied that his office ever issued a threat to storm the embassy.? Ecuador says that they recieved a letter saying that the UK might storm the embassy.? The rt.com web site is currently too busy to handle requests.? rt is broadcast on Comcast channel 103. That is all for now.
?
John Thielking

--- On Thu, 8/16/12, Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ambassador Craig Murray on Assange
To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012, 4:54 PM






Ambassador Craig Murray (former British ambassador to Uzbekistan), blogs (red bold mine):
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/08/americas-vassal-acts-decisively-and-illegally/

America?s Vassal Acts Decisively and Illegally

I returned to the UK today to be astonished by private confirmation from within the FCO that the UK 

government has indeed decided ? after immense pressure from the Obama administration ? to enter 

the Ecuadorean Embassy and seize Julian Assange.


This will be, beyond any argument, a blatant breach of the Vienna Convention of 1961, to which 

the UK is one of the original parties and which encodes the centuries ? arguably millennia ? of practice 

which have enabled diplomatic relations to function. The Vienna Convention is the most subscribed single
international treaty in the world.


The provisions of the Vienna Convention on the status of diplomatic premises are expressed in
deliberately absolute terms. There is no modification or qualification elsewhere in the treaty. 



Article 22

1.The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State 

may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.

2.The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises
of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the
mission or impairment of its dignity.

3.The premises of the mission, their furnishings and other property thereon and the means of
transport of the mission shall be immune from search, requisition, attachment or execution.


Not even the Chinese government tried to enter the US Embassy to arrest the Chinese dissident Chen 

Guangchen. Even during the decades of the Cold War, defectors or dissidents were never seized from 

each other?s embassies. Murder in Samarkand relates in detail my attempts in the British Embassy to 

help Uzbek dissidents. This terrible breach of international law will result in British Embassies being 

subject to raids and harassment worldwide. 



The government?s calculation is that, unlike Ecuador, Britain is a strong enough power to deter such
intrusions. This is yet another symptom of the ?might is right? principle in international relations, in the
era of the neo-conservative abandonment of the idea of the rule of international law.


The British Government bases its argument on domestic British legislation. But the domestic legislation 

of a country cannot counter its obligations in international law, unless it chooses to withdraw 

from them. If the government does not wish to follow the obligations imposed on it by the Vienna 

Convention, it has the right to resile from it ? which would leave British diplomats with no protection worldwide. 



I hope to have more information soon on the threats used by the US administration. William Hague 

had been supporting the move against the concerted advice of his own officials; Ken Clarke has been 

opposing the move against the advice of his. I gather the decision to act has been taken in Number 10. 



There appears to have been no input of any kind from the Liberal Democrats. That opens a wider 

question ? there appears to be no ?liberal? impact now in any question of coalition policy. It is amazing
how government salaries and privileges and ministerial limousines are worth far more than any belief 

to these people. I cannot now conceive how I was a member of that party for over thirty years,
deluded into a genuine belief that they had principles.


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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 19 20:37:45 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:37:45 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Some Heresy
Message-ID: <BAY165-W57CBC60F3B0DD88731C7C9EB90@phx.gbl>




The (New) 18th Congressional District race went about as expected--Eshoo 2/3, the Republican 1/3
and the other candidates negligible.

Except Eshoo is down toward 60% now, Chapman (R) is under 30%, and the two "other" candidates,
Brouillet (G) and Biill Parks (D), got 8.7 % between them--4.1% and 4.6% respectively.

Brouillet spent $16,000, and Parks spent $1000.  This suggests to me that there is a critical mass that 
is willing to vote for any Democrat other than the incumbent, and that we might do well to consider 
that running our candidates as dissident Democrats in early-stage campaigns to achieve name recognition 
and a support base until they become viable, and then having them flip to Green when they get 
positioned for a win may be the best strategy.

The downside of course is that successful dissidents may be seduced by the Dems by the time they 
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Mon Aug 20 20:12:30 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:12:30 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th
 GPSCC Monthly General Meeting
In-Reply-To: <fb92.b59cd7f.3d62c85f@aol.com>
References: <fb92.b59cd7f.3d62c85f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5032FC9E.2060104@prodsyse.com>

Hi, Warner, et al.:


       Can we have a presentation by David Merritt, 7 - 7:30? David is 
suing Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase and others over a predatory 
loan contract he and his wife signed under duress. They were promised a 
30-year mortgage at between 1 and 3 percent interest.  Then deadlines 
were manipulated to present them with the choice of signing a contract 
without reading or forfeit their down payment, the home they were buying 
AND be sued for $730,000. They signed.  Later they learned that the 
actual contract effectively tripled their total obligation.  Their case 
seems to be typical of the predatory practices that have cut in half the 
net worth of the minority community in the US over the past few years.  
Most victims have meekly accepted their fate.  The few who have sued 
have settled in 9 months or less -- except David and Salma Merritt.  
David, not an attorney but representing himself, has kept his case alive 
in Santa Clara County Superior Court for 3 years.  During this period, 
he has won on appeal reversals of some decisions that went against him. 
I'm hoping we can clone what David has done a few million times over and 
force District Attorneys and Attorneys General to proceed with honest 
criminal complaints against senior banking executives and not accept the 
"negotiated settlements" that have become the norm since the end of the 
prosecutions that came out of the Savings and Loan scandal 20 years ago.


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


On 8/19/2012 3:53 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
>
> *G**REENPARTYOF SANTACLARACOUNTY*
>
> DraftAgendaforMonthlyGeneralMembershipMeetingAugust23,2012
>
> San JosePeaceandJusticeCenter,48South7thStreet,San Jose,CA 
> (Near7thandSan Fernando)
>
> 7:00pm -- Eat andchat
>
> 7:30pm -- Beginmeeting
>
> SelectFacilitator,Notetaker,Timekeeper,andVibeswatcher(s),SelectAgendaPreparerfor 
> next meeting;Affirmor modifydraftagenda(5 Minutes)
>
> IntroductionsandAnnouncements(10Minutes)
>
> Treasurer'sReport-- JimDoyle(5 minutes)
>
> County Council Reports -- Discussions and actions taken since last 
> month's General Membership meeting (10 minutes)
>
> Status Report on Foreclosures Program -- Spencer Graves (10 minutes)
>
> September 15^th at
>
> County Polling Discussions-- WarnerBloomberg(30minutes)See summary of 
> ballot measures following the draft agenda/Also report(s) from County 
> Council Members re discussions on the Standing General Assembly email 
> lists
>
> Discussionofstatusoftablingsupplies--(10Minutes) Ballot Measures 
> Positions Leaflets?Jill Stein Literature?Other items?
>
> Plans forFallTabling--(15Minutes)
>
>
> (2HoursxMinutesEstimatedCumulativeTimes.Goal:Adjournby 9:30pm)
>
> The GPSCC did not organize a study session regarding the November 
> ballot measures between last month's meeting and this month's 
> meeting.Below is a copy of an email posted to the CCWG email list from 
> the GPLAC study group.
>
> >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
> >From: denise at panix.com
> >Subject: Please Read - Our Endorsements re the November election
> >
> >This is from our endorsement committee and our voting members will
> >be making the final decision at our next meeting.Please read:
> >
> >July 21, 2012 12-5pm LA GREENS ENDORSEMENT MEETING
> >The following is the recommendations of our endorsement committee.
> >The next step is the full vote of the LA Greens membership at our
> >next meeting in order to finalize the recommendations and publish
> >them on our website. We may also produce flyers to hand out at
> >neighborhood events.
> >Attending: Derek Iversen, Kamran Ghasri, Linda Piera-Avila, Bruce
> >Campbell and Denise Robb. At 2pm Lisa Taylor joined us. Jennifer
> >Epps arrived from SAFE to give us information about Prop 34.
>
>
> >PROP 30 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS unanimous.
> >We decided to endorse both Prop 30 and Prop 38. Prop 30 is
> >Governors Browns tax on the wealthy as well as a one-quarter percent
> >additional sales tax to fund education and public safety. Our
> >reservations was that Prop 30 lumps in other things besides
> >education like public safety. We dont dislike cops in general
> >(except the ones that brutalize people). We just generally prefer
> >more education funding to police funding. (However under prison
> >re-alignment, there are serious safety concerns unless the state can
> >provide some funds to counties and other localities to watch over
> >the 38,000 felons who will be transferred or released from state
> >prison in coming months.) Also, the regressive sales tax was a
> >concern. But it funds K-12 as well as community colleges and would
> >prevent the state from hurtling off a fiscal cliff. (Education is
> >in dire straits with furloughs, layoffs and community college
> >classes being cut left and right.)
> >Proposition 38 is wealthy Pasadena attorney (and human rights
> >advocate) Molly Mungers education proposition that uses a
> >progressive income tax to fund only education. It increases money
> >for poor and disabled children as well. While Mungers will bring in
> >$10 billion, Browns will bring in only $8 billion. Our reservations
> >with Mungers initiative are that the progressive income tax begins
> >with individuals who make only $7,000 a year (approximately $28
> >more), as well as the argument by many state political observers
> >that California voters simply will not vote for more than one tax 
> increase.
> >
> >PROPOSITION 31 STATE BUDGET We didnt completely understand
> >it. The organizations that support it such as Common Cause are good
> >groups and Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association opposes it, which
> >would indicate it is likely to be a good reform measure. But we
> >couldnt wrap our brains around it. Kamran gave an in depth analysis
> >but we dont know what to do. The parts about decentralization,
> >shifting balance of power sound good. The parts about hamstringing
> >the legislature in terms of budget decisions may slow the budgeting
> >process down even further. It gives the Governor a lot of power to
> >declare a fiscal emergency and cut the budget unilaterally. The
> >unilateral power to the governor is our biggest concern. We say NO.
>
>
> >Prop 32 NO. Union - Prohibits Political Contributions We hated
> >this initiative. It is another nail in the coffin for unions. The
> >funders are sketchy organizations and the opposition is every union
> >you could imagine.
>
>
> >Prop 33 Auto Insurance. Instead of good driver discounts on car
> >insurance it offers discounts to good payers meaning that if you
> >have already had car insurance you will get a discount. But for
> >those who are poor or for some reason had a lapse in coverage, their
> >rates will be higher. There is an exemption for those who serve in
> >military or an exemption for 18 months within five years of
> >unemployment. It punishes people who have had trouble
> >obtaining/affording car insurance by making them pay more when they
> >finally can afford it again. We hate this one. They act like
> >they're doing us a favor with this initiative but its another
> >corporate sponsored piece of crap where insurance companies are
> >trying to use this law to make more money for themselves. Please vote NO.
>
>
> >PROP 34 Repeal Death Penalty: UNANIMOUS YES!
>
>
> >Prop 35 Human Trafficking Vote: 5 yesses, and 1 abstain til
> >further information is obtained.
> >
> >There are 27 million slaves in the world today, many of whom are sex
> >slaves. Los Angeles is a big hub for human sex trafficking. The
> >internet is one easy way the criminals lure women. It prevents the
> >person trafficked from being victimized for their past, protects
> >minors and many other positive changes. The arguments made against
> >this proposition were with regard to civil liberties and concerns
> >that this involves the monitoring of traffickers internet activity.
> >
> >Prop. 36 Amend Three Strikes You're Out. Can't be thrown in jail for
> >a non-violent third strike. Unanimous. YES YES YES.
> >
> >Prop 37 Genetically modified foods. A woman in Chico, California
> >had a dream to put an initiative to label genetically engineered
> >food in California. She got Organic Consumers Association and
> >Center for Food Safety and others to work out the wording and put
> >this on the ballot. Requires labeling on raw or processed foods
> >offered for retail sale (including g.e. animals) which are entirely
> >or partially genetically engineered using recombinant DNA
> >technology. Restaurants and bars are exempt from the ordinance which
> >would take effect on July 1st, 2014. Enthusiastic YES!
>
>
> >PROP 38 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS 3 said yes with
> >reservations, 1 said neutral/abstain and another said no. vote:
> >
> >Prop 39 Tax Treatment Multistate business. No one has formed to
> >oppose this at the time of this writing.
> >There was not an historic tax break for these multi-state companies,
> >but the GOP extracted the break during budget negotiations between
> >the Legislature and Arnold back in the '00s. Passing Prop. 39 will
> >add $550 million for energy efficiency and clean energy jobs in
> >California for each of the first 5 years, while that same amount
> >would go toward the battered state budget. (All proceeds relating
> >to closing the corporate tax loophole would go to the state budget
> >after the 5-year period). Due to the Prop. 98 state budget formula,
> >about $225 million of the $550 million going to the state budget
> >would go to fund K-Community College education in the first 5 years
> >(with the education funding increasing to about $500 million after 
> 2017-2018).
> >This closes the out-of-state corporate tax loophole. We recommend
> >YES (unanimous).
> >
> >Prop 40. Redistricting
> >YES. Boy, is this complicated. But we will try to explain it here.
> >Initially, this was a proposition that would have undone the good
> >work done by the independent citizens redistricting commission who
> >got rid of the gerrymandered districts and redrew the boundaries for
> >state legislature and California congressional seats. The
> >Republican Party was very unhappy with the results of the redrawing
> >of the districts so they put this on the ballot. After it qualified
> >for the ballot, the California Supreme Court upheld the state senate
> >districts and said the lines were fine and it was done in compliance
> >with the Voting Rights Act. But it's still on the ballot so in order
> >to keep the maps, we have to vote YES. Heres why: Since this is a
> >referendum, its a little different than your average
> >proposition. Its the reverse of an initiative in terms of
> >voting. A referendum means you are undoing a piece of legislation.
> >Voters are asked to either enact legislation or a constitutional
> >amendment (that has already been voted on by the voters or by the
> >legislature) in which case you would say YES keep the
> >legislation. This is even odder, however, because you are asked to
> >uphold not legislation but MAPS drawn by the commission. If you
> >want to repeal the maps you would vote NO. We do not recommend
> >repealing the work of the independent commission, so you need to
> >vote YES to uphold the maps that were already drawn by the
> >commission. Hanging in the balance are a few seats that may switch
> >from Republican to Democratic. Not because of politics but because
> >the independent commission determined the actual boundaries and they
> >happened to include more Democrats than Republicans. This could give
> >Democrats the 2/3 majority they have long sought in order to pass a
> >tax increase. Please vote YES.
> >
>
>
>
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Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Mon Aug 20 20:16:00 2012
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: How to find new legislative Districts based on
	your address
Message-ID: <1345518960.63742.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>



--- On Mon, 8/20/12, Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Subject: How to find new legislative Districts based on your address
To: "Caroline Yacoub-Green Party" <carolineyacoub at att.net>
Date: Monday, August 20, 2012, 7:44 PM






http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/29/3804492/see-your-senate-assembly-or-congress.html?








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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Tue Aug 21 11:32:06 2012
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:32:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [HCA-SantaClara] FW: ACTION ALERT: Send an email
	to pass the CA DISCLOSE Act!
Message-ID: <1345573926.551.YahooMailClassic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>



--- On Mon, 8/20/12, Lynn Huidekoper <Lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Lynn Huidekoper <Lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Subject: [HCA-SantaClara] FW: ACTION ALERT: Send an email to pass the CA DISCLOSE Act!
To: "HCAC Activists" <hcac-act at svpal.org>, "HCA Santa Clara Yahoo Group" <hca-santaclara at yahoogroups.com>, "One Care Now" <onecarenow at svpal.org>, "CDC Healthcare Group" <cdc-healthcare at yahoogroups.com>, "CDC Issues" <cdc-issues at yahoogroups.com>, "HCA-California Yahoo Group" <hc4a-california at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, August 20, 2012, 9:58 PM



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This is a CARA Priority Bill, and Single Payer folks think essential to ever being able to get a Single Payer bill passed.? Carol

"Taxes are what pays for a civilized society."
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--- On Sun, 8/19/12, Trent Lange, CA Clean Money <newsletter at caclean.org> wrote:

















































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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 21 18:03:38 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th
	GPSCC Monthly General Meeting
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Additional items for the agenda:
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1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.? 
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2) Also, we may need to revisit the decision about ordering 20 shirts, as the actual cost is more than originally estimated. I still have not heard from Caroline about what method she was using to screen print our previous batch of shirts, which could cut our estimated cost in half.?
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3) Also, we should make a motion to formally endorse the position that the US and NATO should not intervene in Syria or Iran and pass this resolution on to other Green Party groups, especially the German Greens, who were in favor of the NATO intervention in Kosovo in the 1990's.? 
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4) We could also consider donating some money to an as yet undetermined group that would run SF Muni Ads in opposition to the Zionist hate speech against Palestinians that the MTA refuses to prevent from running because of a lawsuit in New York that ruled that the Zionist group has the right to run their ads on free speech grounds.
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John Thielking

--- On Mon, 8/20/12, Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com> wrote:


From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC Monthly General Meeting
To: WB4D23 at aol.com
Cc: "David Merritt" <dymerritt at hotmail.com>, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Monday, August 20, 2012, 8:12 PM




Hi, Warner, et al.:? 


????? Can we have a presentation by David Merritt, 7 - 7:30?? David is suing Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase and others over a predatory loan contract he and his wife signed under duress.? They were promised a 30-year mortgage at between 1 and 3 percent interest.? Then deadlines were manipulated to present them with the choice of signing a contract without reading or forfeit their down payment, the home they were buying AND be sued for $730,000.? They signed.? Later they learned that the actual contract effectively tripled their total obligation.? Their case seems to be typical of the predatory practices that have cut in half the net worth of the minority community in the US over the past few years.? Most victims have meekly accepted their fate.? The few who have sued have settled in 9 months or less -- except David and Salma Merritt.? David, not an attorney but representing himself, has kept his case alive in Santa Clara County
 Superior Court for 3 years.? During this period, he has won on appeal reversals of some decisions that went against him. I'm hoping we can clone what David has done a few million times over and force District Attorneys and Attorneys General to proceed with honest criminal complaints against senior banking executives and not accept the "negotiated settlements" that have become the norm since the end of the prosecutions that came out of the Savings and Loan scandal 20 years ago.? 


????? Best Wishes, 
????? Spencer 


On 8/19/2012 3:53 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:




GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY
Draft Agenda for Monthly General Membership Meeting August 23, 2012
San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA (Near 7th and San Fernando)
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7:00 pm ? Eat and chat
7:30 pm ? Begin meeting
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Select Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher(s), Select Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes)
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Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes)
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Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes)
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County Council Reports ? Discussions and actions taken since last month?s General Membership meeting (10 minutes) 
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Status Report on Foreclosures Program ? Spencer Graves (10 minutes)
September 15th at
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County Polling Discussions ? Warner Bloomberg (30 minutes) See summary of ballot measures following the draft agenda/Also report(s) from County Council Members re discussions on the Standing General Assembly email lists
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Discussion of status of tabling supplies --? (10 Minutes) Ballot Measures Positions Leaflets?? Jill Stein Literature?? Other items? 
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Plans for Fall Tabling --????????? (15 Minutes) 

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(2 Hours x Minutes Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm)
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The GPSCC did not organize a study session regarding the November ballot measures between last month?s meeting and this month?s meeting.? Below is a copy of an email posted to the CCWG email list from the GPLAC study group.
>Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
>From: denise at panix.com
>Subject: Please Read - Our Endorsements re the November election
>
>This is from our endorsement committee and our voting members will 
>be making the final decision at our next meeting.? Please read:
>
>July 21, 2012 12-5pm LA GREENS ENDORSEMENT MEETING
>The following is the recommendations of our endorsement committee. 
>The next step is the full vote of the LA Greens membership at our 
>next meeting in order to finalize the recommendations and publish 
>them on our website. We may also produce flyers to hand out at 
>neighborhood events.
>Attending: Derek Iversen, Kamran Ghasri, Linda Piera-Avila, Bruce 
>Campbell and Denise Robb. At 2pm Lisa Taylor joined us. Jennifer 
>Epps arrived from SAFE to give us information about Prop 34.

>PROP 30 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS unanimous.
>We decided to endorse both Prop 30 and Prop 38. Prop 30 is 
>Governors Browns tax on the wealthy as well as a one-quarter percent 
>additional sales tax to fund education and public safety. Our 
>reservations was that Prop 30 lumps in other things besides 
>education like public safety. We dont dislike cops in general 
>(except the ones that brutalize people). We just generally prefer 
>more education funding to police funding. (However under prison 
>re-alignment, there are serious safety concerns unless the state can 
>provide some funds to counties and other localities to watch over 
>the 38,000 felons who will be transferred or released from state 
>prison in coming months.) Also, the regressive sales tax was a 
>concern. But it funds K-12 as well as community colleges and would 
>prevent the state from hurtling off a fiscal cliff. (Education is 
>in dire straits with furloughs, layoffs and community college 
>classes being cut left and right.)
>Proposition 38 is wealthy Pasadena attorney (and human rights 
>advocate) Molly Mungers education proposition that uses a 
>progressive income tax to fund only education. It increases money 
>for poor and disabled children as well. While Mungers will bring in 
>$10 billion, Browns will bring in only $8 billion. Our reservations 
>with Mungers initiative are that the progressive income tax begins 
>with individuals who make only $7,000 a year (approximately $28 
>more), as well as the argument by many state political observers 
>that California voters simply will not vote for more than one tax increase.
>
>PROPOSITION 31 STATE BUDGET We didnt completely understand 
>it. The organizations that support it such as Common Cause are good 
>groups and Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association opposes it, which 
>would indicate it is likely to be a good reform measure. But we 
>couldnt wrap our brains around it. Kamran gave an in depth analysis 
>but we dont know what to do. The parts about decentralization, 
>shifting balance of power sound good. The parts about hamstringing 
>the legislature in terms of budget decisions may slow the budgeting 
>process down even further. It gives the Governor a lot of power to 
>declare a fiscal emergency and cut the budget unilaterally. The 
>unilateral power to the governor is our biggest concern. We say NO.

>Prop 32 NO. Union - Prohibits Political Contributions We hated 
>this initiative. It is another nail in the coffin for unions. The 
>funders are sketchy organizations and the opposition is every union 
>you could imagine.

>Prop 33 Auto Insurance. Instead of good driver discounts on car 
>insurance it offers discounts to good payers meaning that if you 
>have already had car insurance you will get a discount. But for 
>those who are poor or for some reason had a lapse in coverage, their 
>rates will be higher. There is an exemption for those who serve in 
>military or an exemption for 18 months within five years of 
>unemployment. It punishes people who have had trouble 
>obtaining/affording car insurance by making them pay more when they 
>finally can afford it again. We hate this one. They act like 
>they?re doing us a favor with this initiative but its another 
>corporate sponsored piece of crap where insurance companies are 
>trying to use this law to make more money for themselves. Please vote NO.

>PROP 34 Repeal Death Penalty: UNANIMOUS YES!

>Prop 35 Human Trafficking Vote: 5 yesses, and 1 abstain til 
>further information is obtained.
>
>There are 27 million slaves in the world today, many of whom are sex 
>slaves. Los Angeles is a big hub for human sex trafficking. The 
>internet is one easy way the criminals lure women. It prevents the 
>person trafficked from being victimized for their past, protects 
>minors and many other positive changes. The arguments made against 
>this proposition were with regard to civil liberties and concerns 
>that this involves the monitoring of traffickers internet activity.
>
>Prop. 36 Amend Three Strikes You?re Out. Can?t be thrown in jail for 
>a non-violent third strike. Unanimous. YES YES YES.
>
>Prop 37 Genetically modified foods. A woman in Chico, California 
>had a dream to put an initiative to label genetically engineered 
>food in California. She got Organic Consumers Association and 
>Center for Food Safety and others to work out the wording and put 
>this on the ballot. Requires labeling on raw or processed foods 
>offered for retail sale (including g.e. animals) which are entirely 
>or partially genetically engineered using recombinant DNA 
>technology. Restaurants and bars are exempt from the ordinance which 
>would take effect on July 1st, 2014. Enthusiastic YES!

>PROP 38 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS 3 said yes with 
>reservations, 1 said neutral/abstain and another said no. vote:
>
>Prop 39 Tax Treatment Multistate business. No one has formed to 
>oppose this at the time of this writing.
>There was not an historic tax break for these multi-state companies, 
>but the GOP extracted the break during budget negotiations between 
>the Legislature and Arnold back in the '00s. Passing Prop. 39 will 
>add $550 million for energy efficiency and clean energy jobs in 
>California for each of the first 5 years, while that same amount 
>would go toward the battered state budget. (All proceeds relating 
>to closing the corporate tax loophole would go to the state budget 
>after the 5-year period). Due to the Prop. 98 state budget formula, 
>about $225 million of the $550 million going to the state budget 
>would go to fund K-Community College education in the first 5 years 
>(with the education funding increasing to about $500 million after 2017-2018).
>This closes the out-of-state corporate tax loophole. We recommend 
>YES (unanimous).
>
>Prop 40. Redistricting
>YES. Boy, is this complicated. But we will try to explain it here. 
>Initially, this was a proposition that would have undone the good 
>work done by the independent citizens redistricting commission who 
>got rid of the gerrymandered districts and redrew the boundaries for 
>state legislature and California congressional seats. The 
>Republican Party was very unhappy with the results of the redrawing 
>of the districts so they put this on the ballot. After it qualified 
>for the ballot, the California Supreme Court upheld the state senate 
>districts and said the lines were fine and it was done in compliance 
>with the Voting Rights Act. But it?s still on the ballot so in order 
>to keep the maps, we have to vote YES. Heres why: Since this is a 
>referendum, its a little different than your average 
>proposition. Its the reverse of an initiative in terms of 
>voting. A referendum means you are undoing a piece of legislation. 
>Voters are asked to either enact legislation or a constitutional 
>amendment (that has already been voted on by the voters or by the 
>legislature) in which case you would say YES keep the 
>legislation. This is even odder, however, because you are asked to 
>uphold not legislation but MAPS drawn by the commission. If you 
>want to repeal the maps you would vote NO. We do not recommend 
>repealing the work of the independent commission, so you need to 
>vote YES to uphold the maps that were already drawn by the 
>commission. Hanging in the balance are a few seats that may switch 
>from Republican to Democratic. Not because of politics but because 
>the independent commission determined the actual boundaries and they 
>happened to include more Democrats than Republicans. This could give 
>Democrats the 2/3 majority they have long sought in order to pass a 
>tax increase. Please vote YES.
>
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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Aug 21 22:22:44 2012
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:22:44 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] cal-forum@cagreens.org
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http://sf.streetsblog.org/2012/08/21/san-jose-sets-out-to-build-the-bay-areas-most-bike-friendly-downtown/

My favorite paragraph from that article:

 > Though only 1.2 percent of San Jose residents commute by bike, 
according to the city's tally,
 > anecdotally the trend seems to be pointing toward higher rates. The 
popular San Jose Bike Party <http://www.sjbikeparty.org/>
 > has helped to boost ridership, drawing many first time riders 
inspired by the impressive monthly
 > display of bike culture. The city has set a 5 percent bike mode share 
goal by 2020, and 15
 > percent by 2040.

In case you're wondering what San Jose Bike Party looks like, here are 
some pictures of our Luau
ride, which happened last Friday:

http://tian.greens.org/SanJose/BikeParty/LuauRide/index.html

-- 
Tian
http://tian.greens.org
Latest change: Added writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore.
The Green pin I got from a Kiwi there is on a Vermont quarter.

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From tnharter at aceweb.com  Tue Aug 21 22:39:39 2012
From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter)
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:39:39 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] cal-forum@cagreens.org
In-Reply-To: <50346CA4.1050209@aceweb.com>
References: <50346CA4.1050209@aceweb.com>
Message-ID: <5034709B.1080604@aceweb.com>

Oops. Sorry about getting the subject line wrong.
It was supposed to be "San Jose is getting it!"

On 08/21/2012 10:22 PM, Tian Harter wrote:
> http://sf.streetsblog.org/2012/08/21/san-jose-sets-out-to-build-the-bay-areas-most-bike-friendly-downtown/
>
> My favorite paragraph from that article:
>
> > Though only 1.2 percent of San Jose residents commute by bike, 
> according to the city's tally,
> > anecdotally the trend seems to be pointing toward higher rates. The 
> popular San Jose Bike Party <http://www.sjbikeparty.org/>
> > has helped to boost ridership, drawing many first time riders 
> inspired by the impressive monthly
> > display of bike culture. The city has set a 5 percent bike mode 
> share goal by 2020, and 15
> > percent by 2040.
>

-- 
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Latest change: Added writeup on the Green Party Convention in Baltimore.
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Aug 22 09:20:34 2012
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:20:34 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
In-Reply-To: <1345597418.37234.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1345597418.37234.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <503506D2.2020005@charter.net>

On 8/21/2012 6:03 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> Additional items for the agenda:
> 1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.

This discussion is important, but I think that it needs to be understood 
as part of a wider context, that of the "Drift" of American policy 
toward increased militarism.

You may wonder why I put the word "Drift" in quotes.  It is the title of 
a book by Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) that chronicles the changes in or 
attitude toward the use of the military from the days when Pres. Madison 
did not like the idea of a permanent standing army through the most 
recent times of Vietnam, Regan's use of the military in Grenada and then 
the wars with Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. "Drift" is available from the 
Santa Clara County Library system where the wait list is generally 
shorter than the number of copies available. Yeah, that is a 
recommendation to read it.

I also would consider the relative importance of this subject and the 
long range implication of making it the center of Green advocacy.  But 
that is the subject of another post which I will send a bit later today.




From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 22 09:40:33 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:40:33 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
In-Reply-To: <503506D2.2020005@charter.net>
References: <1345597418.37234.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<503506D2.2020005@charter.net>
Message-ID: <BAY165-W7160480486162049369A29EBF0@phx.gbl>



Also available for Kindle users if you have a library card for Los Gatos,
Santa Clara City, Sunnyvale, Mountain View, or Palo Alto. 


> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:20:34 -0700
> From: wrolley at charter.net
> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
> 
> On 8/21/2012 6:03 PM, John Thielking wrote:
> > Additional items for the agenda:
> > 1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
> 
> This discussion is important, but I think that it needs to be understood 
> as part of a wider context, that of the "Drift" of American policy 
> toward increased militarism.
> 
> You may wonder why I put the word "Drift" in quotes.  It is the title of 
> a book by Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) that chronicles the changes in or 
> attitude toward the use of the military from the days when Pres. Madison 
> did not like the idea of a permanent standing army through the most 
> recent times of Vietnam, Regan's use of the military in Grenada and then 
> the wars with Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. "Drift" is available from the 
> Santa Clara County Library system where the wait list is generally 
> shorter than the number of copies available. Yeah, that is a 
> recommendation to read it.
> 
> I also would consider the relative importance of this subject and the 
> long range implication of making it the center of Green advocacy.  But 
> that is the subject of another post which I will send a bit later today.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 10:07:42 2012
From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:07:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W7160480486162049369A29EBF0@phx.gbl>
References: <1345597418.37234.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<503506D2.2020005@charter.net>
	<BAY165-W7160480486162049369A29EBF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1345655262.83403.YahooMailNeo@web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

The only time slot I'd probably be in favor of having a standing monthly discussion about any particular topic would be 6:30-7pm. We have lots of business we must do every month which doesn't leave time for standing discussions about global issues that frankly individually and collectively we know very little about. ?So rather than have a monthly kicking about our (frankly) lack of information on Iran and Syria, my suggestion at last month's meeting (which seemed to be well-received) was to schedule a talk by Dr. Shirat Lin or another knowledgable person to speak to these issues. ?He's an expert on this part of the world, and has spoken about related topics at the Peace and Justice Center, Tian's club house and at my church, New Community of Faith (where the Spencer's Anti-Foreclosure Alliance is having its summit on September 15th). I'd love to have another of these talks happen soon and the topic is timely, and we'd already invited Dr. Lin to do
 another talk at New Community of Faith, so if John or others would like to help with organizing that'd be welcome.

Green is Global!

Drew


>________________________________
> From: Brian Good <snug.bug at hotmail.com>
>To: wrolley at charter.net; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:40 AM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
> 
>
> 
>
>Also available for Kindle users if you have a library card for Los Gatos,
>Santa Clara City, Sunnyvale, Mountain View, or Palo Alto. 
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:20:34 -0700
>> From: wrolley at charter.net
>> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
>> 
>> On 8/21/2012 6:03 PM, John Thielking wrote:
>> > Additional items for the agenda:
>> > 1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.
>> 
>> This discussion is important, but I think that it needs to be understood 
>> as part of a wider context, that of the "Drift" of American policy 
>> toward increased militarism.
>> 
>> You may wonder why I put the word "Drift" in quotes.  It is the title of 
>> a book by Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) that chronicles the changes in or 
>> attitude toward the use of the military from the days when Pres. Madison 
>> did not like the idea of a permanent standing army through the most 
>> recent times of Vietnam, Regan's use of the military in Grenada and then 
>> the wars with Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. "Drift" is available from the 
>> Santa Clara County Library system where the wait list is generally 
>> shorter than the number of copies available. Yeah, that is a 
>> recommendation to read it.
>> 
>> I also would consider the relative importance of this subject and the 
>> long range implication of making it the center of Green advocacy.  But 
>> that is the subject of another post which I will send a bit later today.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Wed Aug 22 10:42:06 2012
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:42:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: [BASC Chat] 2010 U.S. CENSUS MAP
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> 
>
>? 
>Folks, this is an amazing and very revealing map. You can move it around
>and enlarge it or make it smaller. Check it out and keep it for reference.
>
>Remember in 2010 you filled out a census form?
>
>Well, here are the results of that process. (You may want to save this in
>your favorites.) What you will see is a Map of the US - not just the 48
>states but all of the 50 states. Territories are not in the census, but
>they did provide information during this process.
>
>So, let us say you are in Virginia, you can go by county and as you zoom in
>by city to see the increase or decrease and then you can see the changes of
>the various races within these cities.
>
>Look at places you know and also look at the map at the darker brown
>location. You can zoom in and out to get the information on the places you
>know.
>
>Use your cursor to move the map around and you can zoom in on specific
>counties to get current stats. It is very interesting. Just glide your
>cursor over the map and it displays every county. Can't imagine how long
>it took to create this map.
>
>Click the link below.
>
>2010 U.S. CENSUS MAP:
>
>http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/map?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=thab1
>
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From rob.means at electric-bikes.com  Wed Aug 22 10:42:43 2012
From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:42:43 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th
 GPSCC Monthly General Meeting
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Hi Folks,

Please allot 5 minutes for the endorsement of Rob Means for Mayor of
Milpitas.   Although currently a registered Democrat, I was a Green
until 2009 when I took Thom Hartmann's advice to infiltrate and take
over the Democratic Party (like the Tea Party folks took over the
Republican Party).  The current Republican mayor has consistently passed
up opportunities to be worthy of the Sierra Club endorsement he received
in 2010.  I am the only other candidate in that race and expect to win
with endorsements from the Green Party, Democratic Party, Sierra Club
and labor.  For more information on my candidacy, please visit
http://www.meansfordemocracy.org/ 
-- 
Rob Means, 2012 Milpitas Mayoral Candidate
408-262-8975   rob.means at electric-bikes.com
1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913
MeansForDemocracy.org (bus. = electric-bikes.com)
Standing for the Constitution, democracy, and the middle class.
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On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 18:03 -0700, sosfbay-discuss-request at cagreens.org
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> Re: First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th        GPSCC
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From wrolley at charter.net  Wed Aug 22 16:42:54 2012
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:42:54 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] The issue of survival.
Message-ID: <50356E7E.7040104@charter.net>

Recently, a well known Green sent me an email that included the following:
> It seems to me that you are one of the most
> motivated people I know on the issue of
> Climate Change.  But there are many people
> who are aware and concerned about climate
> change, but find reasons to do nothing. 

If I could magically fix that, it would have been done already. However, 
that comment did make me give the subject some thought. This is, in 
part, what I responded.

____
There are only a very few issues that will truly determine whether or 
not we survive as a species or under what conditions that will be.  
Climate Change and nuclear proliferation are at the top of the list.  
There are many other issues which are important, though to a lesser 
degree:.

  * finding an alternative to Growth and Capitalism are necessary, but
    again curbing growth is linked to climate and we (Greens) don't have
    any agreement as to an alternative to Capitalism and Socialism is as
    dependent on growth as is Capitalism.
  * taking corporate or anonymous money out of politics is important,
    but mainly as a tactic in dealing with climate change. This makes CA
    Disclose Act and Move to Amend very important steps that must be taken.
  * getting the insurance corporate profit line out of and every patient
    in to health care is important, but if we want to truly reduce the
    costs of health care, we will find ways to prevent illness to begin
    with... and climate change means new diseases will hit populations
    genetically unprepared to deal with them. According to economists
    from CSU - Fullerton, air pollution costs the CA economy some $29
    billion / yr.  That is just a starter to show the scope of the
    problems to come.
  * our one guarantee is that the Keysont XL Pipeline will be built and
    US Coal will feed China's power generation, all in the name of
    government support of US jobs, economy.  It makes not a whit of
    difference whether Obama of Romney win the presidency. It seems that
    the only governmental organization that is acting as if they truly
    understand the implications of uncontrolled climate change is the US
    Military.  At least, they are switching to renewables when and where
    they can as well as analyzing every scenario that they can imagine. 
    Meanwhile, Obama does nothing and Ryan considers clean energy to be
    a "fad".

  The only hope, as far off as it might be, is for a Green Presidency 
and Greens / Independents as swing votes in Congress.  Even McKibben and 
350.org refrain from criticizing Obama as he deserves and so he gets a 
free pass.
__
We all know the many things that could have been added to the list. What 
will we do about imigration when other countries become inhabitable?   
Given the current ruckus over tax policy, how will we fund adaptation 
when city after city, from South Beach (FL) to Laguna Beach (CA) become 
inhabitable?  How will CA residents find water when sea levels rise to 
the point that the intakes for the Aqueducts are below sea level?  What 
will all of the peace activists do to prevent violence when hundreds of 
million of people are forced to migrate to other lands as theirs disappear?

And how do we do any  of this when one political party make climate 
change denial a litmus test for electoral success?

I have a certain level of frustration in that most people do not share 
my sense of urgency. I am not sure what to do about that.  But if there 
is one issue that should be at the top of all Green agendas, this is it.
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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Aug 22 17:11:11 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:11:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th
	GPSCC Monthly...
Message-ID: <f463.216a139a.3d66cf1f@aol.com>

August 22, 2012
 
John:  At last month's meeting, the consensus (from my  viewpoint) was that 
the topics of "Iran" or "Syria" are topics too large and to  vague for 
there to me any comment(s) other than the situation in each country is  
"terrible" (paraphrase).  Your request that these topics be on each monthly  GPSCC 
agenda do not contain any scope of discussion, any specific proposal, or  any 
explanation about what could be done locally.  IMO, as someone who has  
been compiling GPSCC agendas for years, it is unfair and unreasonable to be  
proposing agenda items without these details.  Similarly, it seems strange  to 
me to be proposing spending money for ads on MTA buses in San Francisco 
when  there is a GPSF.  The place to take that kind of proposal, IMO, is to 
that  County GP (or, in this case, to the New York City GP).
If you want the GPSCC to recommend that the GPCA requwest its  GPUS 
Delegation to sponsor a GPUS anti-war resolution, then say so...   But a more 
effective way to get that would be to contact the California GPUS  Delegates 
directly.  You can get that information from cagreeens.org and  follow the Party 
and Committee links.  Warner
 
 
In a message dated 8/21/2012 6:03:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
pagesincolor at yahoo.com writes:

Additional items for the agenda:
 
1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and  Syria.  
 
2) Also, we may need to revisit the decision about ordering 20  shirts, as 
the actual cost is more than originally estimated. I still  have not heard 
from Caroline about what method she was using to screen  print our previous 
batch of shirts, which could cut our estimated cost  in half. 
 
3) Also, we should make a motion to formally endorse the position  that the 
US and NATO should not intervene in Syria or Iran and pass this  resolution 
on to other Green Party groups, especially the German Greens,  who were in 
favor of the NATO intervention in Kosovo in the  1990's.  
 
4) We could also consider donating some money to an as yet  undetermined 
group that would run SF Muni Ads in opposition to the  Zionist hate speech 
against Palestinians that the MTA refuses to prevent  from running because of a 
lawsuit in New York that ruled that the  Zionist group has the right to run 
their ads on free speech  grounds.
 
John  Thielking


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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Aug 22 17:53:55 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:53:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Second Draft Agenda GPSCC General Meeting Thursday
	August 23rd
Message-ID: <7f69.4b2f17c0.3d66d923@aol.com>

 
 
GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY 
Draft Agenda for Monthly General Membership Meeting August 23, 2012 
San  Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA  
(Near 7th and San Fernando) 
7:00 pm ? Eat and chat / Possible speaker (unconfirmed as  of 8/22) 
David  Merritt on his personal lawsuits against big banks for predatory  
practices 
7:30 pm ? Begin meeting 
Select Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher(s), Select 
Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) 
Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) 
Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) 
County  Council Reports ? Discussions and actions taken since last month?s 
General  Membership meeting (10 minutes)  
Status  Report on Foreclosures Program ? Spencer Graves (10 minutes) 
September  15th at 
County  Polling Discussions ? Warner Bloomberg (30 minutes) See summary of 
ballot measures following the  draft agenda/Also report(s) from County 
Council Members re discussions on the  Standing General Assembly email lists 
Report  on local Health Care for All (HCA) meeting ? Caroline and and 
Merriam (15  Minutes) 
Discussion of status of tabling supplies -- (15 Minutes) Ballot Measures 
Positions  Leaflets?  Jill Stein  Literature?  Reconsider T-shirts  purchase 
(new price info); Other items?  
Plans  for Fall Tabling --          (15 Minutes) Foreclosures Program; 
Rumored Jill  Stein appearance at Stanford?? 
Request  for GPSCC endorsement by Rob Means, Milpitas mayor candidate ? No 
GPSCC sponsor  (5 Minutes 
Anti-War  Resolution for other GP groups ? John Thielking (15 Minutes)  NO 
PROPOSAL TEXT SUBMITTED as of writing  this draft agenda.  Also no  
information about existing GPUS action(s), if  any.

(2  Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) 
The  GPSCC did not organize a study session regarding the November ballot 
measures  between last month?s meeting and this month?s meeting.  Below is a 
copy of an email posted to  the CCWG email list from the GPLAC study group. 
>Date:  Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
>From:  denise at panix.com
>Subject: Please Read - Our Endorsements re the November  election
>
>This is from our endorsement committee and our voting  members will 
>be making the final decision at our next meeting.  Please read:
>
>July 21,  2012 12-5pm LA GREENS ENDORSEMENT MEETING
>The following is the  recommendations of our endorsement committee. 
>The next step is the full  vote of the LA Greens membership at our 
>next meeting in order to  finalize the recommendations and publish 
>them on our website. We may  also produce flyers to hand out at 
>neighborhood  events.
>Attending: Derek Iversen, Kamran Ghasri, Linda Piera-Avila, Bruce  
>Campbell and Denise Robb. At 2pm Lisa Taylor joined us. Jennifer  
>Epps arrived from SAFE to give us information about Prop  34. 

>PROP  30 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS unanimous.
>We decided to endorse  both Prop 30 and Prop 38. Prop 30 is 
>Governors Browns tax on the wealthy  as well as a one-quarter percent 
>additional sales tax to fund education  and public safety. Our 
>reservations was that Prop 30 lumps in other  things besides 
>education like public safety. We dont dislike cops in  general 
>(except the ones that brutalize people). We just generally  prefer 
>more education funding to police funding. (However under prison  
>re-alignment, there are serious safety concerns unless the state can  
>provide some funds to counties and other localities to watch over  
>the 38,000 felons who will be transferred or released from state  
>prison in coming months.) Also, the regressive sales tax was a  
>concern. But it funds K-12 as well as community colleges and would  
>prevent the state from hurtling off a fiscal cliff. (Education is  
>in dire straits with furloughs, layoffs and community college  
>classes being cut left and right.)
>Proposition 38 is wealthy  Pasadena attorney (and human rights 
>advocate) Molly Mungers education  proposition that uses a 
>progressive income tax to fund only education.  It increases money 
>for poor and disabled children as well. While Mungers  will bring in 
>$10 billion, Browns will bring in only $8 billion. Our  reservations 
>with Mungers initiative are that the progressive income tax  begins 
>with individuals who make only $7,000 a year (approximately $28  
>more), as well as the argument by many state political observers  
>that California voters simply will not vote for more than one tax  
increase.
>
>PROPOSITION 31 STATE BUDGET We didnt completely  understand 
>it. The organizations that support it such as Common Cause  are good 
>groups and Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association opposes it,  which 
>would indicate it is likely to be a good reform measure. But we  
>couldnt wrap our brains around it. Kamran gave an in depth analysis  
>but we dont know what to do. The parts about decentralization,  
>shifting balance of power sound good. The parts about hamstringing  
>the legislature in terms of budget decisions may slow the budgeting  
>process down even further. It gives the Governor a lot of power to  
>declare a fiscal emergency and cut the budget unilaterally. The  
>unilateral power to the governor is our biggest concern. We say  NO. 

>Prop  32 NO. Union - Prohibits Political Contributions We hated 
>this  initiative. It is another nail in the coffin for unions. The 
>funders are  sketchy organizations and the opposition is every union 
>you could  imagine. 

>Prop  33 Auto Insurance. Instead of good driver discounts on car 
>insurance it  offers discounts to good payers meaning that if you 
>have already had car  insurance you will get a discount. But for 
>those who are poor or for  some reason had a lapse in coverage, their 
>rates will be higher. There  is an exemption for those who serve in 
>military or an exemption for 18  months within five years of 
>unemployment. It punishes people who have  had trouble 
>obtaining/affording car insurance by making them pay more  when they 
>finally can afford it again. We hate this one. They act like  
>they?re doing us a favor with this initiative but its another  
>corporate sponsored piece of crap where insurance companies are  
>trying to use this law to make more money for themselves. Please vote  NO. 

>PROP  34 Repeal Death Penalty: UNANIMOUS YES! 

>Prop  35 Human Trafficking Vote: 5 yesses, and 1 abstain til 
>further  information is obtained.
>
>There are 27 million slaves in the world  today, many of whom are sex 
>slaves. Los Angeles is a big hub for human  sex trafficking. The 
>internet is one easy way the criminals lure women.  It prevents the 
>person trafficked from being victimized for their past,  protects 
>minors and many other positive changes. The arguments made  against 
>this proposition were with regard to civil liberties and  concerns 
>that this involves the monitoring of traffickers internet  activity.
>
>Prop. 36 Amend Three Strikes You?re Out. Can?t be  thrown in jail for 
>a non-violent third strike. Unanimous. YES YES  YES.
>
>Prop 37 Genetically modified foods. A woman in Chico,  California 
>had a dream to put an initiative to label genetically  engineered 
>food in California. She got Organic Consumers Association and  
>Center for Food Safety and others to work out the wording and put  
>this on the ballot. Requires labeling on raw or processed foods  
>offered for retail sale (including g.e. animals) which are entirely  
>or partially genetically engineered using recombinant DNA  
>technology. Restaurants and bars are exempt from the ordinance which  
>would take effect on July 1st, 2014. Enthusiastic  YES! 

>PROP  38 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS 3 said yes with 
>reservations, 1  said neutral/abstain and another said no. vote:
>
>Prop 39 Tax  Treatment Multistate business. No one has formed to 
>oppose this at the  time of this writing.
>There was not an historic tax break for these  multi-state companies, 
>but the GOP extracted the break during budget  negotiations between 
>the Legislature and Arnold back in the '00s.  Passing Prop. 39 will 
>add $550 million for energy efficiency and clean  energy jobs in 
>California for each of the first 5 years, while that same  amount 
>would go toward the battered state budget. (All proceeds relating  
>to closing the corporate tax loophole would go to the state budget  
>after the 5-year period). Due to the Prop. 98 state budget formula,  
>about $225 million of the $550 million going to the state budget  
>would go to fund K-Community College education in the first 5 years  
>(with the education funding increasing to about $500 million after  
2017-2018).
>This closes the out-of-state corporate tax loophole. We  recommend 
>YES (unanimous).
>
>Prop 40.  Redistricting
>YES. Boy, is this complicated. But we will try to explain  it here. 
>Initially, this was a proposition that would have undone the  good 
>work done by the independent citizens redistricting commission who  
>got rid of the gerrymandered districts and redrew the boundaries for  
>state legislature and California congressional seats. The  
>Republican Party was very unhappy with the results of the redrawing  
>of the districts so they put this on the ballot. After it qualified  
>for the ballot, the California Supreme Court upheld the state senate  
>districts and said the lines were fine and it was done in compliance  
>with the Voting Rights Act. But it?s still on the ballot so in order  
>to keep the maps, we have to vote YES. Heres why: Since this is a  
>referendum, its a little different than your average  
>proposition. Its the reverse of an initiative in terms of  
>voting. A referendum means you are undoing a piece of legislation.  
>Voters are asked to either enact legislation or a constitutional  
>amendment (that has already been voted on by the voters or by the  
>legislature) in which case you would say YES keep the  
>legislation. This is even odder, however, because you are asked to  
>uphold not legislation but MAPS drawn by the commission. If you  
>want to repeal the maps you would vote NO. We do not recommend  
>repealing the work of the independent commission, so you need to  
>vote YES to uphold the maps that were already drawn by the  
>commission. Hanging in the balance are a few seats that may switch  
>from Republican to Democratic. Not because of politics but because  
>the independent commission determined the actual boundaries and they  
>happened to include more Democrats than Republicans. This could give  
>Democrats the 2/3 majority they have long sought in order to pass a  
>tax increase. Please vote  YES.
>
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 18:19:01 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:19:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th
	GPSCC Monthly...
In-Reply-To: <f463.216a139a.3d66cf1f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1345684741.16384.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

My purpose in having a monthly discussion about Iran and Syria is not to just do some hand wringing, but build up to doing something such as organizing a protest.? I don't think it would be appropriate to just shove the protest idea down people's throats without an ongoing discussion. As for the resolution, I think that it would have more impact for the GPUS to recieve a resolution from the GP SCC, rather than just me as an individual submitting a proposal to the national Green Party. Otherwise, what is the purpose of us having monthly meetings on a local level?? I'm working on the exact wording of the resolution and will send that around sometime this evening.? Thanks.
?
Sincerely,
?
John Thielking

--- On Wed, 8/22/12, WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:


From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC Monthly...
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 5:11 PM




August 22, 2012
?
John:? At last month's meeting, the consensus (from my viewpoint) was that the topics of "Iran" or "Syria" are topics too large and to vague for there to me any comment(s) other than the situation in each country is "terrible" (paraphrase).? Your request that these topics be on each monthly GPSCC agenda do not contain any scope of discussion, any specific proposal, or any explanation about what could be done locally.? IMO, as someone who has been compiling GPSCC agendas for years, it is unfair and unreasonable to be proposing agenda items without these details.? Similarly, it seems strange to me to be proposing spending money for ads on MTA buses in San Francisco when there is a GPSF.? The place to take that kind of proposal, IMO, is to that County GP (or, in this case, to the New York City GP).
If you want the GPSCC to recommend that the GPCA requwest its GPUS Delegation to sponsor a GPUS?anti-war resolution, then say so...? But a more effective way to get that would be to contact the California GPUS Delegates directly.? You can get that information from cagreeens.org and follow the Party and Committee links.? Warner
?

In a message dated 8/21/2012 6:03:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pagesincolor at yahoo.com writes:





Additional items for the agenda:
?
1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.? 
?
2) Also, we may need to revisit the decision about ordering 20 shirts, as the actual cost is more than originally estimated. I still have not heard from Caroline about what method she was using to screen print our previous batch of shirts, which could cut our estimated cost in half.?
?
3) Also, we should make a motion to formally endorse the position that the US and NATO should not intervene in Syria or Iran and pass this resolution on to other Green Party groups, especially the German Greens, who were in favor of the NATO intervention in Kosovo in the 1990's.? 
?
4) We could also consider donating some money to an as yet undetermined group that would run SF Muni Ads in opposition to the Zionist hate speech against Palestinians that the MTA refuses to prevent from running because of a lawsuit in New York that ruled that the Zionist group has the right to run their ads on free speech grounds.
?
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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 18:27:27 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:27:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th
	GPSCC Monthly...
In-Reply-To: <1345684741.16384.YahooMailClassic@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1345685247.80854.YahooMailClassic@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Also, to be honest, I hadn't thought as far ahead as submitting the resolution to the GP US.? I was thinking more of rallying the troops locally, such as by submitting the resolution to other GP counties locally, before moving on to a national campaign. 
?
John Thielking

--- On Wed, 8/22/12, John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC Monthly...
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, WB4D23 at aol.com
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 6:19 PM







My purpose in having a monthly discussion about Iran and Syria is not to just do some hand wringing, but build up to doing something such as organizing a protest.? I don't think it would be appropriate to just shove the protest idea down people's throats without an ongoing discussion. As for the resolution, I think that it would have more impact for the GPUS to recieve a resolution from the GP SCC, rather than just me as an individual submitting a proposal to the national Green Party. Otherwise, what is the purpose of us having monthly meetings on a local level?? I'm working on the exact wording of the resolution and will send that around sometime this evening.? Thanks.
?
Sincerely,
?
John Thielking

--- On Wed, 8/22/12, WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:


From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC Monthly...
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 5:11 PM




August 22, 2012
?
John:? At last month's meeting, the consensus (from my viewpoint) was that the topics of "Iran" or "Syria" are topics too large and to vague for there to me any comment(s) other than the situation in each country is "terrible" (paraphrase).? Your request that these topics be on each monthly GPSCC agenda do not contain any scope of discussion, any specific proposal, or any explanation about what could be done locally.? IMO, as someone who has been compiling GPSCC agendas for years, it is unfair and unreasonable to be proposing agenda items without these details.? Similarly, it seems strange to me to be proposing spending money for ads on MTA buses in San Francisco when there is a GPSF.? The place to take that kind of proposal, IMO, is to that County GP (or, in this case, to the New York City GP).
If you want the GPSCC to recommend that the GPCA requwest its GPUS Delegation to sponsor a GPUS?anti-war resolution, then say so...? But a more effective way to get that would be to contact the California GPUS Delegates directly.? You can get that information from cagreeens.org and follow the Party and Committee links.? Warner
?

In a message dated 8/21/2012 6:03:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pagesincolor at yahoo.com writes:





Additional items for the agenda:
?
1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.? 
?
2) Also, we may need to revisit the decision about ordering 20 shirts, as the actual cost is more than originally estimated. I still have not heard from Caroline about what method she was using to screen print our previous batch of shirts, which could cut our estimated cost in half.?
?
3) Also, we should make a motion to formally endorse the position that the US and NATO should not intervene in Syria or Iran and pass this resolution on to other Green Party groups, especially the German Greens, who were in favor of the NATO intervention in Kosovo in the 1990's.? 
?
4) We could also consider donating some money to an as yet undetermined group that would run SF Muni Ads in opposition to the Zionist hate speech against Palestinians that the MTA refuses to prevent from running because of a lawsuit in New York that ruled that the Zionist group has the right to run their ads on free speech grounds.
?
John Thielking

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 19:09:06 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Proposed anti-war resolution re: Iran and Syria
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Ok, Here is the proposed anti-war resolution by John Thielking, to be submitted to the GP SCC and if passed, to be submitted to other GP orgs to be determined.?
I will print out several copies of this and bring them to the GP SCC meeting on August 23, 2012.
?
John Thielking
?
?
Resolution Of The Santa Clara County, CA USA Green Party To Oppose Military Intervention In Iran Or Syria


Whereas there has rarely been a successful occupation/liberation by military force that promptly resulted in a stable democracy being formed in a formerly occupied country AND;


Whereas the US and NATO have an established track record of using depleted Uranium in Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and probably also in Libya AND;


Whereas the use of depleted Uranium has longer lasting effects than any use of biological or chemical weapons and is itself a war crime AND;


Whereas the people and established governments of Iran and Syria have the right to self determination without outside interference;


Hereby be it resolved that we, the Santa Clara County Green Party, of California USA, demand that the US, NATO and allied forces should not intervene militarily in either Iran or Syria, nor should either side continue to supply arms in attempts to foment proxy wars and/or regime changes through violent conflict.


We also urge the government and opposition forces in Syria to enter into serious negotiations to achieve a diplomatic settlement of the conflict there and that the US government, NATO and their allies fully support such negotiations instead of directly or indirectly supporting regime change through a violent proxy war or other violent means while undermining efforts to negotiate a settlement.


We also urge the US/UN to lift the sanctions on Iran and allow Iran to continue their nuclear program without outside interference while continuing to work through peaceful negotiations (not coercive negotiations, threats or military action) for the worldwide abolition of nuclear weapons and for the ultimate goal of dismantling all nuclear power plants and nuclear material production facilities worldwide.


Resolution proposed on August 23, 2012 

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From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 20:13:54 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:13:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Proposed anti-war resolution re: Iran and Syria
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Hello again,
?
I looked briefly at the GP US press release site to see if they had made a national resolution about Iran or Syria.? There was one article stating that the major candidates had said "hands off Iran", but there was no news of a resolution and not a peep about Syria.? Some links of interest are below, including a statement that the US should stay out of Libya.
?
http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=472
http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=466
http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=399
http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=389

John Thielking

--- On Wed, 8/22/12, John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Proposed anti-war resolution re: Iran and Syria
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, WB4D23 at aol.com
Cc: "merriam k" <mkmusic03 at aol.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 7:09 PM






Ok, Here is the proposed anti-war resolution by John Thielking, to be submitted to the GP SCC and if passed, to be submitted to other GP orgs to be determined.? 
I will print out several copies of this and bring them to the GP SCC meeting on August 23, 2012. 
? 
John Thielking 
? 
? 
Resolution Of The Santa Clara County, CA USA Green Party To Oppose Military Intervention In Iran Or Syria 


Whereas there has rarely been a successful occupation/liberation by military force that promptly resulted in a stable democracy being formed in a formerly occupied country AND; 


Whereas the US and NATO have an established track record of using depleted Uranium in Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and probably also in Libya AND; 


Whereas the use of depleted Uranium has longer lasting effects than any use of biological or chemical weapons and is itself a war crime AND; 


Whereas the people and established governments of Iran and Syria have the right to self determination without outside interference; 


Hereby be it resolved that we, the Santa Clara County Green Party, of California USA, demand that the US, NATO and allied forces should not intervene militarily in either Iran or Syria, nor should either side continue to supply arms in attempts to foment proxy wars and/or regime changes through violent conflict. 


We also urge the government and opposition forces in Syria to enter into serious negotiations to achieve a diplomatic settlement of the conflict there and that the US government, NATO and their allies fully support such negotiations instead of directly or indirectly supporting regime change through a violent proxy war or other violent means while undermining efforts to negotiate a settlement. 


We also urge the US/UN to lift the sanctions on Iran and allow Iran to continue their nuclear program without outside interference while continuing to work through peaceful negotiations (not coercive negotiations, threats or military action) for the worldwide abolition of nuclear weapons and for the ultimate goal of dismantling all nuclear power plants and nuclear material production facilities worldwide. 


Resolution proposed on August 23, 2012 


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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Aug 22 22:16:23 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:16:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Jill Stein campaign
Message-ID: <11cae.60fddd1f.3d6716a6@aol.com>



 
  
____________________________________
 From: nate136_66 at yahoo.com
To: WB4D23 at aol.com
Sent: 8/22/2012 8:49:29  P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: Jill Stein campaign


Here is the list.
 
 
September 24, 25, 26, 27 + Tentative  October 17,18

SEPTEMBER 24 (Northern California):
College Of The  Redwoods
Humboldt State
...  
Sonoma State
Sacramento State

SEPTEMBER  25 (Northern California):
Napa Valley College
UC Berkeley
San  Francisco State
Stanford (Looking for campus organizer).

SEPTEMBER  26 (Southern California):
San Diego State University
University of San  Diego
California State San Marcos
Palomar Community College
UC Irvine  (Looking for campus organizer)
CSU Fullerton (3:30-4:15pm)
USC  (5:30-6:20pm)
Pasadena City College (7-7:45pm)
Fundraiser/Free Time  after 7:45pm

SEPTEMBER 27 (Southern California):
KPFK, NPR Radio  Interviews and/or Newspaper/TV Interviews (8am-10am)
Santa Monica College  (11am-11:40am)
Woodbury University (12:30-1:10pm)
Los Angeles Mission  College (2-2:45pm)
Los Angeles Valley College (3:30-4:10pm)
Pierce  College (5-6:30pm)
CSU Northridge (7:30-8:45pm)

Tentative Events for  October 17/18:
UC Los Angeles (Looking for Campus Organizer)
UC San  Diego (Looking for Campus Organizer)
UC Davis (Looking for Campus  Organizer)


Conference Calls Every Thursday  9pm.



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From WB4D23 at aol.com  Wed Aug 22 22:34:06 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:34:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Attn List Moderator
Message-ID: <11e91.599475fe.3d671ace@aol.com>

August 22, 2012
 
List Moderator:  I forwarded a copy of the Alameda County  reports on 
ballot measures to the GPSCC general discussion list tonight and  received a held 
for moderator approval message -- probably due to size of  the document (17 
printed pages).  Please approve and post ASAP as this  information is 
applicable to our consideration of ballot measures tomorrow  evening.  Warner
 
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From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 22 23:20:27 2012
From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:20:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Proposed anti-war resolution re: Iran and Syria
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Thing is the press releases hardly represent all the work that is done by the U.S. Green Party. ?The International Committee works on issues like these, not to mention the Green National Committee (which I used to be on). I have a good connection with the media committee which I used to serve on, so if people come up with something I could pass it along.

Green is Global!

Drew



>________________________________
> From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; WB4D23 at aol.com 
>Cc: merriam k <mkmusic03 at aol.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Proposed anti-war resolution re: Iran and Syria
> 
>
>Hello again,
>?
>I looked briefly at the GP US press release site to see if they had made a national resolution about Iran or Syria.? There was one article stating that the major candidates had said "hands off Iran", but there was no news of a resolution and not a peep about Syria.? Some links of interest are below, including a statement that the US should stay out of Libya.
>?
>http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=472
>http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=466
>http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=399
>http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=389
>
>John Thielking
>
>--- On Wed, 8/22/12, John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Proposed anti-war resolution re: Iran and Syria
>>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, WB4D23 at aol.com
>>Cc: "merriam k" <mkmusic03 at aol.com>
>>Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 7:09 PM
>>
>>
>>Ok, Here is the proposed anti-war resolution by John Thielking, to be submitted to the GP SCC and if passed, to be submitted to other GP orgs to be determined.? 
>>I will print out several copies of this and bring them to the GP SCC meeting on August 23, 2012. 
>>? 
>>John Thielking 
>>? 
>>? 
>>Resolution Of The Santa Clara County, CA USA Green Party To Oppose Military Intervention In Iran Or Syria 
>>
>>
>>Whereas there has rarely been a successful occupation/liberation by military force that promptly resulted in a stable democracy being formed in a formerly occupied country AND; 
>>
>>
>>Whereas the US and NATO have an established track record of using depleted Uranium in Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and probably also in Libya AND; 
>>
>>
>>Whereas the use of depleted Uranium has longer lasting effects than any use of biological or chemical weapons and is itself a war crime AND; 
>>
>>
>>Whereas the people and established governments of Iran and Syria have the right to self determination without outside interference; 
>>
>>
>>Hereby be it resolved that we, the Santa Clara County Green Party, of California USA, demand that the US, NATO and allied forces should not intervene militarily in either Iran or Syria, nor should either side continue to supply arms in attempts to foment proxy wars and/or regime changes through violent conflict. 
>>
>>
>>We also urge the government and opposition forces in Syria to enter into serious negotiations to achieve a diplomatic settlement of the conflict there and that the US government, NATO and their allies fully support such negotiations instead of directly or indirectly supporting regime change through a violent proxy war or other violent means while undermining efforts to negotiate a settlement. 
>>
>>
>>We also urge the US/UN to lift the sanctions on Iran and allow Iran to continue their nuclear program without outside interference while continuing to work through peaceful negotiations (not coercive negotiations, threats or military action) for the worldwide abolition of nuclear weapons and for the ultimate goal of dismantling all nuclear power plants and nuclear material production facilities worldwide. 
>>
>>
>>Resolution proposed on August 23, 2012 
>>
>> 
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Thu Aug 23 00:08:03 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:08:03 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Karl Rove Wants You to Vote for Obama
Message-ID: <BAY165-W51ED5B6BC4E60E951783759EBE0@phx.gbl>


How does the Republican Party get tens of millions of people to vote against their own 
economic interests and for the interests of the 1%?  It's very easy, as Thomas Frank
pointed out in "What's the Matter with Kansas?"  It's all about the Politics of Indignance. 

Basically, the red-staters are indignant about abortion. Ronald Reagan could have 
outlawed abortion if he wanted.  He had the power.  Why didn't he?  Because killing 
abortion would have killed indignance. They're also indignant about a black man in the 
White House, and Obama's alleged "socialism".

When Obama is elected, his "socialistic" presidency fuels a Republican indignant 
uprising to take control of Congress so that Obama can not possibly accomplish
anything.  (Not that he really wants to accomplish anything contrary to the   
interests of the 1%.)

If Romney were elected, he would be expected to demonstrate that "trickle-down"

works (it doesn't), he would be expected to win the war in Afghanistan (he can't),

he would be expected to balance the budget (he won't).   He can't run the risk of

being expected to fulfill his impossible promises.   


Karl Rove Wants You to Vote for Obama!







 		 	   		  
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From wrolley at charter.net  Thu Aug 23 11:42:12 2012
From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:42:12 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Perpetual conflict
Message-ID: <50367984.3030307@charter.net>

In one recent post, I mentioned the book "Drift" by Rachel Maddow. That 
is the story of how we have gotten into posture of perpetual conflict 
against enemies that no US Politician can ignore.  If they do, they risk 
being called "weak" by the opposition.  So, all conflicts become in some 
manner part of our "national interest".

So, along with Iran and Syria, attention must be paid to Mali. In brief, 
the Tauregs, a minority (10%) ethnic group from Northern Mali, has 
always resisted the centralized government in Timbuktu. The Taureg are 
Muslims.  However, when the resistance to a centralized Mali government 
was taken over by another ethnic group with  Al Qaeda links and 
financing, the Tauregs have been forced to flee to Mauritania to escape 
living under a version of Sharia law that they do not accept.

Note: this conflict pits Muslim against Muslim in the same manner as the 
"troubles" in N. Ireland pitted Christian against Christian.

I am sure that the Al Qaeda  linkage has been enough to attract the 
attention of Panetta's CIA and our military planners.  But this will 
continue as long as we refrain from questioning what role America should 
have and how much of that is the responsibility of our military in 
carrying out that policy.  Right now, I cringe every time I hear a 
politician respond to a question about what they will do by saying "I'll 
listen to the commanders in the field."  It is not their responsibility 
to set policy.




From WB4D23 at aol.com  Thu Aug 23 14:59:16 2012
From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:59:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Final Draft Agenda for Tonight's GPSCC Meeting --
	Print Your Own Copy!!!
Message-ID: <3b289.71713c94.3d6801b4@aol.com>

 
 
GREEN PARTY OF SANTA CLARA COUNTY 
Draft Agenda for Monthly General Membership Meeting August 23, 2012 
San  Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 South 7th Street, San Jose, CA  
(Near 7th and San Fernando) 
7:00 pm ? Eat and chat / Possible speaker (unconfirmed as  of 8/22) 
David  Merritt on his personal lawsuits against big banks for predatory  
practices 
7:30 pm ? Begin meeting 
Select Facilitator, Notetaker, Timekeeper, and Vibeswatcher(s), Select 
Agenda Preparer for next meeting; Affirm or modify draft agenda (5 Minutes) 
Introductions and Announcements (10 Minutes) 
Treasurer?s Report ? Jim Doyle (5 minutes) 
County  Council Reports ? Discussions and actions taken since last month?s 
General  Membership meeting (10 minutes)  
Status  Report on Foreclosures Program ? Spencer Graves (10  minutes) 
September  15th at 
County  Polling Discussions ? Warner Bloomberg (30 minutes) See summary of 
ballot measures following the  draft agenda/Also report(s) from County 
Council Members re discussions on the  Standing General Assembly email lists 
Report  on local Health Care for All (HCA) meeting ? Caroline and and 
Merriam (15  Minutes) 
Discussion of status of tabling supplies -- (15 Minutes) Ballot Measures 
Positions  Leaflets?  Jill Stein  Literature?  Reconsider T-shirts  purchase 
(new price info); Other items?  
Plans  for Fall Tabling --          (15 Minutes) Foreclosures Program; 
Rumored Jill  Stein appearance at Stanford September 25th (campaign is looking 
for  a campus organizer) 
Request  for GPSCC endorsement by Rob Means, Milpitas mayor candidate ? 
Warner Bloomberg  (5 Minutes 
Proposal:  Anti-War Resolution for other GPs ?John  Thielking (15 Minutes)  
 
Resolution  Of The Green Party of Santa Clara County To Oppose Military 
Intervention In Iran  Or Syria 
Whereas  there has rarely been a successful occupation/liberation by 
military force that  promptly resulted in a stable democracy being formed in a 
formerly occupied  country AND; 
Whereas  the US and NATO have an established track record of using depleted 
Uranium in  Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and probably also in Libya AND; 
Whereas  the use of depleted Uranium has longer lasting effects than any 
use of  biological or chemical weapons and is itself a war crime  AND; 
Whereas  the people and established governments of Iran and Syria have the 
right to self  determination without outside interference; 
Hereby  be it resolved that we, the Santa Clara County Green Party, of 
California USA,  demand that the US, NATO and allied forces should not intervene 
militarily in  either Iran or Syria, nor should either side continue to 
supply arms in attempts  to foment proxy wars and/or regime changes through 
violent  conflict. 
We  also urge the government and opposition forces in Syria to enter into 
serious  negotiations to achieve a diplomatic settlement of the conflict 
there and that  the US government, NATO and their allies fully support such 
negotiations instead  of directly or indirectly supporting regime change through 
a violent proxy war  or other violent means while undermining efforts to 
negotiate a  settlement. 
We  also urge the US/UN to lift the sanctions on Iran and allow Iran to 
continue  their nuclear program without outside interference while continuing 
to work  through peaceful negotiations (not coercive negotiations, threats or 
military  action) for the worldwide abolition of nuclear weapons and for 
the ultimate goal  of dismantling all nuclear power plants and nuclear 
material production  facilities worldwide.

(2  Hours Estimated Cumulative Times. Goal: Adjourn by 9:30 pm) 
The  GPSCC did not organize a study session regarding the November ballot 
measures  between last month?s meeting and this month?s meeting.  Below is a 
copy of an email posted to  the CCWG email list from the GPLAC study group. 
>Date:  Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:23:38 -0400 (EDT)
>From:  denise at panix.com
>Subject: Please Read - Our Endorsements re the November  election
>
>This is from our endorsement committee and our voting  members will 
>be making the final decision at our next meeting.  Please read:
>
>July 21,  2012 12-5pm LA GREENS ENDORSEMENT MEETING
>The following is the  recommendations of our endorsement committee. 
>The next step is the full  vote of the LA Greens membership at our 
>next meeting in order to  finalize the recommendations and publish 
>them on our website. We may  also produce flyers to hand out at 
>neighborhood  events.
>Attending: Derek Iversen, Kamran Ghasri, Linda Piera-Avila, Bruce  
>Campbell and Denise Robb. At 2pm Lisa Taylor joined us. Jennifer  
>Epps arrived from SAFE to give us information about Prop  34. 

>PROP  30 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS unanimous.
>We decided to endorse  both Prop 30 and Prop 38. Prop 30 is 
>Governors Browns tax on the wealthy  as well as a one-quarter percent 
>additional sales tax to fund education  and public safety. Our 
>reservations was that Prop 30 lumps in other  things besides 
>education like public safety. We dont dislike cops in  general 
>(except the ones that brutalize people). We just generally  prefer 
>more education funding to police funding. (However under prison  
>re-alignment, there are serious safety concerns unless the state can  
>provide some funds to counties and other localities to watch over  
>the 38,000 felons who will be transferred or released from state  
>prison in coming months.) Also, the regressive sales tax was a  
>concern. But it funds K-12 as well as community colleges and would  
>prevent the state from hurtling off a fiscal cliff. (Education is  
>in dire straits with furloughs, layoffs and community college  
>classes being cut left and right.)
>Proposition 38 is wealthy  Pasadena attorney (and human rights 
>advocate) Molly Mungers education  proposition that uses a 
>progressive income tax to fund only education.  It increases money 
>for poor and disabled children as well. While Mungers  will bring in 
>$10 billion, Browns will bring in only $8 billion. Our  reservations 
>with Mungers initiative are that the progressive income tax  begins 
>with individuals who make only $7,000 a year (approximately $28  
>more), as well as the argument by many state political observers  
>that California voters simply will not vote for more than one tax  
increase.
>
>PROPOSITION 31 STATE BUDGET We didnt completely  understand 
>it. The organizations that support it such as Common Cause  are good 
>groups and Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association opposes it,  which 
>would indicate it is likely to be a good reform measure. But we  
>couldnt wrap our brains around it. Kamran gave an in depth analysis  
>but we dont know what to do. The parts about decentralization,  
>shifting balance of power sound good. The parts about hamstringing  
>the legislature in terms of budget decisions may slow the budgeting  
>process down even further. It gives the Governor a lot of power to  
>declare a fiscal emergency and cut the budget unilaterally. The  
>unilateral power to the governor is our biggest concern. We say  NO. 

>Prop  32 NO. Union - Prohibits Political Contributions We hated 
>this  initiative. It is another nail in the coffin for unions. The 
>funders are  sketchy organizations and the opposition is every union 
>you could  imagine. 

>Prop  33 Auto Insurance. Instead of good driver discounts on car 
>insurance it  offers discounts to good payers meaning that if you 
>have already had car  insurance you will get a discount. But for 
>those who are poor or for  some reason had a lapse in coverage, their 
>rates will be higher. There  is an exemption for those who serve in 
>military or an exemption for 18  months within five years of 
>unemployment. It punishes people who have  had trouble 
>obtaining/affording car insurance by making them pay more  when they 
>finally can afford it again. We hate this one. They act like  
>they?re doing us a favor with this initiative but its another  
>corporate sponsored piece of crap where insurance companies are  
>trying to use this law to make more money for themselves. Please vote  NO. 

>PROP  34 Repeal Death Penalty: UNANIMOUS YES! 

>Prop  35 Human Trafficking Vote: 5 yesses, and 1 abstain til 
>further  information is obtained.
>
>There are 27 million slaves in the world  today, many of whom are sex 
>slaves. Los Angeles is a big hub for human  sex trafficking. The 
>internet is one easy way the criminals lure women.  It prevents the 
>person trafficked from being victimized for their past,  protects 
>minors and many other positive changes. The arguments made  against 
>this proposition were with regard to civil liberties and  concerns 
>that this involves the monitoring of traffickers internet  activity.
>
>Prop. 36 Amend Three Strikes You?re Out. Can?t be  thrown in jail for 
>a non-violent third strike. Unanimous. YES YES  YES.
>
>Prop 37 Genetically modified foods. A woman in Chico,  California 
>had a dream to put an initiative to label genetically  engineered 
>food in California. She got Organic Consumers Association and  
>Center for Food Safety and others to work out the wording and put  
>this on the ballot. Requires labeling on raw or processed foods  
>offered for retail sale (including g.e. animals) which are entirely  
>or partially genetically engineered using recombinant DNA  
>technology. Restaurants and bars are exempt from the ordinance which  
>would take effect on July 1st, 2014. Enthusiastic  YES! 

>PROP  38 Education Taxes YES WITH RESERVATIONS 3 said yes with 
>reservations, 1  said neutral/abstain and another said no. vote:
>
>Prop 39 Tax  Treatment Multistate business. No one has formed to 
>oppose this at the  time of this writing.
>There was not an historic tax break for these  multi-state companies, 
>but the GOP extracted the break during budget  negotiations between 
>the Legislature and Arnold back in the '00s.  Passing Prop. 39 will 
>add $550 million for energy efficiency and clean  energy jobs in 
>California for each of the first 5 years, while that same  amount 
>would go toward the battered state budget. (All proceeds relating  
>to closing the corporate tax loophole would go to the state budget  
>after the 5-year period). Due to the Prop. 98 state budget formula,  
>about $225 million of the $550 million going to the state budget  
>would go to fund K-Community College education in the first 5 years  
>(with the education funding increasing to about $500 million after  
2017-2018).
>This closes the out-of-state corporate tax loophole. We  recommend 
>YES (unanimous).
>
>Prop 40.  Redistricting
>YES. Boy, is this complicated. But we will try to explain  it here. 
>Initially, this was a proposition that would have undone the  good 
>work done by the independent citizens redistricting commission who  
>got rid of the gerrymandered districts and redrew the boundaries for  
>state legislature and California congressional seats. The  
>Republican Party was very unhappy with the results of the redrawing  
>of the districts so they put this on the ballot. After it qualified  
>for the ballot, the California Supreme Court upheld the state senate  
>districts and said the lines were fine and it was done in compliance  
>with the Voting Rights Act. But it?s still on the ballot so in order  
>to keep the maps, we have to vote YES. Heres why: Since this is a  
>referendum, its a little different than your average  
>proposition. Its the reverse of an initiative in terms of  
>voting. A referendum means you are undoing a piece of legislation.  
>Voters are asked to either enact legislation or a constitutional  
>amendment (that has already been voted on by the voters or by the  
>legislature) in which case you would say YES keep the  
>legislation. This is even odder, however, because you are asked to  
>uphold not legislation but MAPS drawn by the commission. If you  
>want to repeal the maps you would vote NO. We do not recommend  
>repealing the work of the independent commission, so you need to  
>vote YES to uphold the maps that were already drawn by the  
>commission. Hanging in the balance are a few seats that may switch  
>from Republican to Democratic. Not because of politics but because  
>the independent commission determined the actual boundaries and they  
>happened to include more Democrats than Republicans. This could give  
>Democrats the 2/3 majority they have long sought in order to pass a  
>tax increase. Please vote  YES.
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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Aug 23 22:41:40 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:41:40 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Monthly meeting minutes August 23, 2012
In-Reply-To: <3b289.71713c94.3d6801b4@aol.com>
References: <3b289.71713c94.3d6801b4@aol.com>
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Below please find my standard notes. Please reply to all with any 
corrections, additions, deletions, etc. to the minutes.  The last posted 
version shall stand at least until the next meeting unless there is a 
dispute.  In the latter case, I will offer my opinion and we will decide 
as a group at the next meeting.


I think we had a good crowd and a very productive meeting this evening.  
A good time was had by all, I think.


Thanks.  Spencer


On 8/23/2012 2:59 PM, WB4D23 at aol.com wrote:
>
> *G**REENPARTYOF SANTACLARACOUNTY*
>
> DraftAgendaforMonthlyGeneralMembershipMeetingAugust23,2012
>
> San JosePeaceandJusticeCenter,48South7thStreet,San Jose,CA 
> (Near7thandSan Fernando)
>
> 7:00pm -- Eat andchat / Possible speaker (unconfirmed as of 8/22)
>
> David Merritt on his personal lawsuits against big banks for predatory 
> practices
>


       David Merritt pressured into signing a loan contract without 
reading and without getting a copy of the contract.  They added text to 
the contract, which David found out after finally suing Countrywide to 
get a copy of the contract from them.  David then filed a suit in 
Federal court, which was ultimately dismissed.  He then filed in State 
court (Santa Clara County Superior Court.  Wells Fargo was dismissed 
from the from the case.  An appellate court reinstated Wells Fargo as a 
defendant in "Merritt v. Wells Fargo". In the most recent hearing, last 
Friday, 17 August, David Merritt petitioned Judge James Stoelker to 
recuse himself for cause, as he had represented defendants Countrywide 
and First American Title in numerous cases over the previous decade 
prior to having been appointed to the bench by former Governor 
Schwarzenegger;  see 
"http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/8/prweb9818679.htm". For more see, 
"Merritt v. Countrywide" at occupy.pbworks.com 
(http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/57677826/Merritt%20v%20Countrywide).


> 7:30pm -- Beginmeeting
>
> SelectFacilitator,Notetaker,Timekeeper,andVibeswatcher(s),SelectAgendaPreparerfor 
> next meeting;Affirmor modifydraftagenda(5 Minutes)
>


       facilitator:  Warner


       Notetaker:  Spencer


       Timekeeper:  Caroline.


       Vibeswatcher:  Tian


       Agenda preparer for next meeting:  Caroline.

> IntroductionsandAnnouncements(10Minutes)
>


       Warner:  Has been trying to contact Cindy _______

Debra came with Drew Johnson, member of the County Council:


Merriam Kathaleen


Pete O'Reilly:  Peace & Freedom party here to support resolution 
opposing war against Syria and Iran.  Doubletree workers are picketing 
and going on strike soon.  Would like help.


Gary Landauer:  Been a Green party member for many years.  Part of CHAM.


Sandy Perry:  CHAM.  Never been formally part of the Green Party. Here 
to support the Foreclosure Summit and the campaign for Jill Stein and 
Cherry Hankela.


John Thielking:  Publishes Peacemovies.com & author of resolution to 
oppose invading Iran or Syria.


Caroline Yacoub:  Working to get us involved with Healthcare for All.


Spencer Graves:  notetaker.


Tian Harter:  with today's harvest.


Rob Means with Move To Amend


Jim Doyle:  Treasurer and on the County Council.  made images for 
buttons on "The Robin Hood Tax".  Has brochures for vote


Andrew McKay:

> Treasurer'sReport-- JimDoyle(5 minutes)
>


       $2,180.94 balance.  Sent check to Green Party of CA for Green 
tote bags in Feb. cashed in May.


Warner has several boxes.  Has not yet done an inventory.  Jim or others 
are welcome to come to Warner's house to look for tote bags.

> County Council Reports -- Discussions and actions taken since last 
> month's General Membership meeting (10 minutes)
>


     No report.  All 4 on the County Council

> Status Report on Foreclosures Program -- Spencer Graves (10 minutes)
>
> September 15^th at
>


       Jim:  foreclosure.com?


       Sandy:  He came to talk about foreclosures and how we can fight 
this.


       Warner:  Help is needed on Media.  Contact the state Green Party 
Media Committee.  Should be on our county web page.  Let Sherry know 
that we are having this event.


       Peter:  Ice cream social for social justice at ML King next 
Tuesday organized by 2 unions.  I need to contact them and appear at the 
social with fliers.


       Merriam:  foreclosure.com wants your credit card.

> County Polling Discussions-- WarnerBloomberg(30minutes)See summary of 
> ballot measures following the draft agenda/Also report(s) from County 
> Council Members re discussions on the Standing General Assembly email 
> lists
>


       We have 4 votes, distributed to our County Council Members, who 
must decide how to handle split votes:  who to vote for and who against.


       Prop 30 = Gerry Brown tax proposal:  2 tax measures:  Brown's 
increase sales tax by ~0.25 percent plus impose higher taxes on $200K or 
$250K income -- would sunset after 6 (?) years.  Includes a 
constitutional amendment with more money for jails and public safety.  
SC Greens 4 YES.


4 yes: 5
4 no:  2
4 abstain:  1
4 no position:  3


Conclusion:  2 YES, 1 NO, 1 NO POSITION.


       Prop 38 = Munger taxes for education only and not for general 
budget purposes -- would sunset after 12 (?) years.  Munger may preempt 
prop. 30 if it gets more votes.  Gerry Brown's is more tax. SC Greens 4 
NOs.


unresolved concern: Caroline does not understand the allocation of the


consensus:    4 NOs


* These are tax measures.  Warner doesn't think they are constitutional 
amendments but he's not certain.  Constitutional measures don't sunset.  
Brown seems more thorough and effective than Munger.


       Prop 31 = state & local government initiative:  Would give any 
governor extensive powers to veto more or less anything:  SC County 
Greens vote 4 NOs.


       Prop 32 = Corporation want to defund unions packaged as balanced 
requiring unions to get permission from every member to spend any money 
on political campaigns:  SC Co. Greens 4 NOs.


       Prop 33:  Auto insurance reform:  Mercury insurance wants to give 
good drivers reduced rates but anyone with a lapse in insurance would 
pay more:  Greens vote 4 NOs.


       Prop. 34:  repeal the death penalty:  Alameda County expressed 
reservations on two grounds:  argument is made on monetary grounds. SC 
Greens vote 4 YES.


       Prop.  35:  Increase criminal penalties for human trafficking.  
LA voted mostly yes;  Alameda County voted NO.  Sounds great but can we 
study the details more?


Consensus:  4 votes NO POSITION


       Prop. 36:  to reform 3 strikes would require a violent crime for 
any conviction:  SC Greens 4 YES.


       Prop 37:  label GMOs:  SC Greens 4 YES.


       Prop 39:  Roll back lower taxes on out of state corporate taxes:  
SC Greens 4 YES.


       Prop 40:  State Senate redistricting:  YES affirms the most 
recent maps;  Republicans oppose these maps.  SC Greens 4 YES.

> Report on local Health Care for All (HCA) meeting -- Caroline and and 
> Merriam (15 Minutes)
>


       Attended meeting Tuesday.  Next Thursday, a church in Palo Alto 
at the First Baptist church will show the health care movie. Merriam and 
Caroline could use help tabling at this event.  Dana will table.  Andrew 
McKay offers to produce a leaflet.  Merriam will organize to present 
this movie in Japan Town.  California Alliance of Health Professional 
Student Association:  Jill Stein will be Sept. 24 & 25 in Northern CA 
doing campus tours.  There are 3,000 student members:  Propose to bring 
Jill Stein to Stanford to support Single Payer and perhaps other campuses.


       Jim Doyle:


       Sandy:  Could have a flier that says that Jilll Stein and Sherry 
H. are the only presidential candidates supporting single payer.  Also, 
we need to do Latino outreach on this issue.


       Warner:  Campaign and Candidates working group teleconference 
last night.  There's a monthly teleconference for volunteers. tentative 
Sept. 25:  looking for someone at Stanford to schedule an event there.


*** Dana has connections with the Secular Student Alliance.  Dana with 
contact them.

> Discussionofstatusoftablingsupplies-- (15 Minutes)
>


> Ballot Measures Positions Leaflets?State party will have a position by 
> Labor Day.
>


literature for Foreclosure Summit:


John T.:


Tian:  We need some Jill Stein for President.


Drew:  Allocate $140 to purchase Jill Stein T-shirts from her web site.  
Drew to try to get a discount.


> Jill Stein Literature?Reconsider T-shirts purchase (new price info); 
> Other items?
>
> Plans forFallTabling--(15Minutes) Foreclosures Program; Rumored Jill 
> Stein appearance at Stanford September 25^th (campaign is looking for 
> a campus organizer)
>


       Foreclosure Summit:  Sept. 5.


       HCA Thursday, Aug. 30


       Jill Stein, Sept. 5

> Request for GPSCC endorsement by Rob Means, Milpitas mayor candidate 
> -- Warner Bloomberg (5 Minutes
>


Jim Doyle:


Rob has filed the official papers.  He has no staff.  Has a web site.  
Has answered questionnaires from 4 different groups.


Gerry:


Peter:  Rob already has official labor support.


Caroline:  Do you need buttons.  (A:  no.)


Dana:  Why Dems?  A:  Now on the Democrats Central Committee and is 
pushing them left.


CONSENSUS to endorse Rob.

> Proposal:Anti-War Resolution for other GPs --John Thielking (15 Minutes)
>


Proposed:  That the SC Greens endorse this statement.  John will be 
responsible for distribution.


Gerry:  " ... nuclear power program ..."


Dana disagrees with Gerry's.  Gerry prefers the "power" wording but will 
stand aside.


Drew:  Move final 2 paragraphs to the front.  and remove the "also".  
Accepted.


Merriam:  Would prefer a resolution for Iran and a separate one for 
Syria, because Merriam supports the one for Iran but not Syria.


Tian doesn't like the last paragraph.


vote:
yes adopt modified proposal.  6
no we do not adopt the proposal - 1
abstain:  - 3


proposal approved with reordering of the paragraphs.

> Resolution Of The Green Party of Santa Clara County To Oppose Military 
> Intervention In Iran Or Syria
>
> Whereas there has rarely been a successful occupation/liberation by 
> military force that promptly resulted in a stable democracy being 
> formed in a formerly occupied country AND;
>
> Whereas the US and NATO have an established track record of using 
> depleted Uranium in Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and probably also in 
> Libya AND;
>
> Whereas the use of depleted Uranium has longer lasting effects than 
> any use of biological or chemical weapons and is itself a war crime AND;
>
> Whereas the people and established governments of Iran and Syria have 
> the right to self determination without outside interference;
>
> Hereby be it resolved that we, the Santa Clara County Green Party, of 
> California USA, demand that the US, NATO and allied forces should not 
> intervene militarily in either Iran or Syria, nor should either side 
> continue to supply arms in attempts to foment proxy wars and/or regime 
> changes through violent conflict.
>
> We also urge the government and opposition forces in Syria to enter 
> into serious negotiations to achieve a diplomatic settlement of the 
> conflict there and that the US government, NATO and their allies fully 
> support such negotiations instead of directly or indirectly supporting 
> regime change through a violent proxy war or other violent means while 
> undermining efforts to negotiate a settlement.
>
> We also urge the US/UN to lift the sanctions on Iran and allow Iran to 
> continue their nuclear program without outside interference while 
> continuing to work through peaceful negotiations (not coercive 
> negotiations, threats or military action) for the worldwide abolition 
> of nuclear weapons and for the ultimate goal of dismantling all 
> nuclear power plants and nuclear material production facilities worldwide.
>
>
> (2 HoursEstimatedCumulativeTimes.Goal:Adjournby 9:30pm)
>
> The GPSCC did not organize a study session regarding the November 
> ballot measures between last month's meeting and this month's 
> meeting.Below is a copy of an email posted to the CCWG email list from 
> the GPLAC study group.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
> President and Chief Technology Officer
> Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
> 751 Emerson Ct.
> San Jos?, CA 95126
> ph:  408-655-4567
> web:  www.structuremonitoring.com
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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Aug 24 11:54:41 2012
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 11:54:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Ice Cream Social for Social Justice! Rally and
	March Tuesday Aug. 28
Message-ID: <1345834481.83525.YahooMailClassic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>



--- On Wed, 8/22/12, Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Lynn Huidekoper <lynn_huidekoper at hotmail.com>
Subject: Ice Cream Social for Social Justice! Rally and March Tuesday Aug. 28
To: jeanpeer at sbcglobal.net, r.m.mckinney at sbcglobal.net, joan at rujo.org, shruthibhuma at gmail.com, swathibhuma at gmail.com, carol.dalrymple.ca at gmail.com, carolineyacoub at att.net, mcbeattie at jps.net, gwhunt97 at sbcglobal.net, bobnroz at gmail.com, kbock3 at sbcglobal.net, gmupandaway at gmail.com, marty1132 at aol.com, peacenut99 at yahoo.com, perrysandy at aol.com, brogregm at sbcglobal.net, thsretired at earthlink.net, jaembree at aol.com, lsa1o at aol.com, llozares at gmail.com, rozal at earthlink.net, lpenek at yahoo.com, rufusolan at gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 11:17 PM













Tuesday, August 28, 2012



5:00pm







DOWNTOWN SAN JOSE - Begin Ice Cream Social - Dr. MLK Jr. Library 150 East San Fernando Street San Jose, CA 95112 - End Rally - San Jose Chamber of Commerce - 101 W. Santa Clara St. San Jose, CA 95112






Get The SCOOP on What's Happening in November!

Schools and Public Safety Protection Act of 2012 - Prop 30 - Yes?
Special Exemptions Act - Prop 32 - No
Building a Fair Economy for The 99%
Raise Incomes for Workers
Stop Home Foreclosures
Investment in Public Education
Win Retirement & Healthcare Security for All


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From carolineyacoub at att.net  Fri Aug 24 12:04:35 2012
From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:04:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: RE: Healthcare-NOW! - For patients or for profits?
Message-ID: <1345835075.31707.YahooMailClassic@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>


















Hi Bob:
Assemblymember Jim Beall is partnering with Council on Aging Silicon Valley & State Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones for a FREE Medicare and Healthcare Town Hall. Whether you are insured, uninsured, or on Medicare, this town hall will answer people?s questions so they can take control of your health and your healthcare costs. 
?
Please feel free to circulate to the community. If would be happy to drop off flyers or posters as well.
?
Assemblymember Jim Beall invites you to a Medicare & Healthcare Forum 
What does Healthcare Reform Mean to You? 
Saturday, October 6, 2012 
9am-Noon 
Orchard Banquet Hall @ 
Campbell Community Center 
1 W Campbell Ave., Campbell, CA 95008 
?
?
Don?t miss the opportunity to hear from the experts
?
Special guest speakers: 
State Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones will explain the new changes and provide up-to-date information about the future of healthcare insurance in California including programs available now for the uninsured. 
Medicare expert Connie Corrales, from Council on Aging Silicon Valley will walk you through how to select the best Medicare plan (plus Supplemental Coverage) for you or a family member. 
Health insurance counselors will also be on hand to provide individual assessments on the Medicare options best suited to your short- and long-term goals. Medicare enrollment begins in October and the decisions you make will affect your coverage throughout all of 2013. 
?
For more information and to RSVP, please call the District Office at (408) 282-8920 or visit www.asmdc.org/yp

?
Regards,
?
Sunshine Borelli
?
Deputy Chief of Staff to Assemblymember Jim Beall, Jr.
100 Paseo de San Antonio, Suite 319
San Jose, CA 95113
408-282-8920
408-282-8927 fax
www.assembly.ca.gov/beall
?


From: Bob & Roz Applebaum [mailto:bobnroz at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:41 AM
To: Ash kalra; Barbara Boxer; barbara.lea at comcast.net; Berget Jelane; Carol Dalrymple; Carol Kuiper; Claudia Chaufan, MD; Craig Dunkerley; Senator Hernandez; Senator Alquist; Gail Sredanovic; Gerry Hunt; Gina Maren; Greg Miller; jean; Jean Peer; Joan Goddard; Joan Simon; Jodi Reid; Jonathan Starr; Jordan Eldridge; Judy Young; Katherine Bock; Senator De Leon; Larry Lozares; Leo Lotter; lsa1o at aol.com; Assemblymember Alejo; Lynda Stanko; Lynn Huidekoper; Lynne Penek-Holden; Senator DeSaulnier; Martha Beattie; Martha Utz; Mary Tsalis; McCabe, Lara; Michael Fischetti; Senator Rubio; Assemblymember Campos; Assemblymember Fong; PegElwell at aol.com; Pierluigi Oliverio; Rose Herrerra; Senator Blakeslee; Sandra E. Soto; Sandy Perry; Shirley Odou; Shruthi Bhuma; Steve Preminger; Borelli, Sunshine; Swanee Edwards; Swathi Bhuma; Thomas Atwood; Haskell, Tyler; Xavier Campos
Subject: Healthcare-NOW! - For patients or for profits?
?

?

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EXPANDED AND IMPROVED MEDICARE FOR ALL - HR 676 (CONYERS), WOULD REQUIRE THE CONVERSION OF ALL FOR-PROFIT HOSPITALS TO NON-PROFIT.? RICK SCOTT?RESIGNED WITH ?A HUGE EXECUTIVE GOLDEN PARACHUTE? FROM COLUMBIA/HCA JUST BEFORE COLUMBIA /HCA WAS SLAPPED WITH A RECORD BREAKING $1.7 BILLION PENALTY FOR MEDICARE FRAUD.? The problems are not resolved and won't be until we come to our senses and enact a true universal coverage single payer plan.

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http://www.healthcare-now.org/for-patients-or-for-profits

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Bob Applebaum
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 24 14:17:22 2012
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:17:22 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] not broke - being robbed
Message-ID: <5037EF62.7000404@sbcglobal.net>

Van Jones has a good formulation of the situation
and if you use the link you will see an expanded
version as well as a request to participate in
propagating the being robbed phrase.

*"We're not broke -- we're being robbed, and I commit to fight back!"* 
<http://act.rebuildthedream.com/go/384?t=2&akid=769.596980.6ehprK>



From vdf at juno.com  Fri Aug 24 16:38:57 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 23:38:57 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tabling: Mountain View & Santa Clara Art & Wine
	Festivals?
Message-ID: <20120824.163857.17918.4@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi folks,

Is the GPSCC interested in having a presence in the Free Speech areas of the Mountain View Art & Wine Festival (Sept. 8-9) and/or the Santa Clara Art & Wine Festival (Sept. 15-16)?

I haven't heard anything tabling at festivals in a while, and I might volunteer for multiple campaigns this year (Jill Stein + initiatives), so I decided to see what info I could find and pass it on to campaigns that interest me.

Katrina Apilado of the Mountain View Chamber of Commerce said that her city's deadline to apply had been extended to today, but there *might* be a slight chance of getting in later.  The application for a Free Speech space at the Mountain View Art & Wine Festival is online at http://www.chambermv.org/pdf/2012-aw-freespeech.pdf.

Marilyn Dippell of Santa Clara's Parks & Recreation Department sent me the attached application for a Free Speech space at the Santa Clara Art & Wine Festival.  Their deadline is Friday, September 7 at 5 PM.

Right now I'm available to volunteer for parts of both weekends.  For Mountain View (9/8-9) I could volunteer on Saturday or Sunday, 10 am - 2 pm (the festival is 10 am - 6 pm).  For Santa Clara (9/15-16) I could volunteer any time up until 2:45 pm on Sunday (the festival is 10 am - 5 pm).

I just wanted to pass this info on in case there is an interest.  I have calls or emails out to Morgan Hill and Campbell about a couple of other events (Taste of Morgan Hill, September 29-30 & Campbell's Oktoberfest, Oct. 13-14) and am waiting for a reply.

Best regards,
Valerie Face
Santa Clara, CA

~*~*~*~
Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America
http:/www.jillstein.org/
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 25 17:42:44 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:42:44 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Arctic Sea Ice Shrinks To Smallest Ever: Satellite Data
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References: <50395274.1050801@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <50397104.2090802@earthlink.net>


Arctic Sea Ice Shrinks To Smallest Ever: Satellite Data
     http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/08/25

This one includes an animation:
 
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/25/1124073/-Arctic-sea-ice-extent-crashes-to-record-low

I guess there are now betting pools on when the Arctic
will be ice free.

Gerry


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Sat Aug 25 19:31:16 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:31:16 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SF Mime Troupe Wed 8/29 Mitchell Park Palo Alto
Message-ID: <50398A74.5030704@earthlink.net>


The San Francisco Mime Troupe will be performing
Wednesday August 29th at Mitchell Park in Palo Alto:

http://www.sfmt.org/schedule/

Gerry


From vdf at juno.com  Sat Aug 25 20:03:40 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 03:03:40 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tabling: Mountain View & Santa Clara Art & Wine
	Festi	vals?
Message-ID: <20120825.200340.24009.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

There is no charge.

Valerie


Please note: message attached

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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 26 21:27:13 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:27:13 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Report from the University Ave. Fair
Message-ID: <BAY165-W25846620CD68DB5F7605889EA20@phx.gbl>


There was a crafts faire downtown today in Palo Alto, I found by accident, with a 
big Voter Registration for Obama tent, and life-sized cardboard image of the 
president. People were getting their pictures taken with it.  

So I went home and got better clothes and took my "The Audacity of War Crimes"
sign and stood in front of their tent.  

A woman came by and said she was generally sympathetic to my point of view but
that though she was torn she felt that she ought to vote for Obama on pragmatic
grounds.  I said that if I were young like her I would probably feel the same way,
but I saw Germany 20 years after WWII and I saw what happens to countries
that think that international laws don't apply to them, and that I was bound by the
Nuremberg Principles not to be complicit in war crimes.

A couple of the Democrats came out from the tent to parley and the first guy asked 
me if I thought it would be better under Romney than Obama.  I told him that Karl 
Rove wants Obama re-elected, because if Romney were elected he would be 
expected to 1) balance the budget, 2) win the war in Afghanistan, 3) demonstrate 
that trickle-down works and 4) outlaw abortion, and he can't do three of those things 
and he won't do #4 because that would kill redneck indignance.

The second guy listened quite respectfully for a long time while a woman in American
Indian jewelry who claimed to be African American ranted very cogently.  When he 
finally got a chance he said he understood the problem the Democratic left has and 
he thinks the party needs to find a way to address this.  I suggested ranked-choice
voting, pointing out that we could vote our conscience on ballots 1 and 2 and then
vote pragmatically only on ballot 3 and then we could have it both ways--voting to
make a statement without throwing our votes away.

For the woman in Indian jewelry I gave references to "What's the Matter With 
Kansas" and "Words that Work".  After I got there with my sign I didn't see
anybody getting their picture taken with the cardboard image.

Brian 









 






 		 	   		  
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 27 11:36:22 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:36:22 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Let's Crash the Conventions!
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 27 12:21:58 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:21:58 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Let's Crash the Conventions!
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I've always been slow to donate, 'cause how much could my $10 or $20 make a difference? 
Besides, it cuts into the beer budget!

We have over 100,000 Greens in California alone, and if everybody gave $10 that would be
a million dollars right there!

So here's my deal:  for everybody that emails me and tells me they've donated, I will donate
$10 to this campaign.  Your $10 gets matched twice--once by me, and then again (up to $250)
by the Feds.  Your $10 becomes $40!  25 of you at $10 each will bring in $1000!

And here's the kicker: my contribution comes out of my weekly beer budget.  I will not buy any 
alcohol until I've paid back my contribution.

This is a win-win-win-win-win prospect!  Quadruple your money, get national exposure for the
Greens and help me kick an unhealthy habit all at the same time!























Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:36:22 -0700
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Let's Crash the Conventions!



--Forwarded Message Attachment--
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 15:47:26 +0000
From: HQ at JillStein.org
To: santaclara at cagreens.org
Subject: Let's Crash the Conventions!






	
  

      
Dear Friend,






As corporate lobbyists wine and dine the Republican and Democratic
national committees in Tampa and Charlotte, Jill Stein and Cheri
Honkala are beating at their doors.
Right now, Cheri is in the streets of Tampa with the Poor People's
Economic Human Rights Campaign and the tent city at Romneyville. Next
week, Jill will arrive in Charlotte. And soon, with your help,
we'll all be beating the drums of social progress together,
as we launch our first major media campaign!
That's right. We may be coming to a cable channel near
you. We've hired one of the most famous political advertising
firms in the country. We've cut the ads. And the only question is how
many millions of voters will see these ads.
We have until Thursday, September 6th, to raise at least $80,000.
If we succeed in doing that, our ads will run in college town
media markets from the Pacific to the Mississippi to the
Atlantic. If we raise $120,000, we'll have viewership in
medium sized cities of population 500,000 to 2 million. And if you
help us raise $200,000, we'll be on in at least a couple major
metropolitan areas.
The more money we raise, the higher chance that
YOUR community will see one of these ads (you can see sneak
preview pics from the shooting of these ads at right).
The timing is vital. The primary season ends on Thursday
September 6th. This means that you only have until September
6th to get your contributions matched, dollar for dollar, up to $250,
with federal matching funds. And this means that you only have until
September 6th to donate the maximum allowable contribution of
$2500. 
Time is running short for another
reason. We have to buy these ads now, well ahead of September
6th, so that these ads actually run in the primary season. Federal law
requires that our matching funds monies be used in the primaries, by
September 6th, and this means that we must reserve our cable and TV ad
times right now.
See the graph below to get a sense of how many
college town, medium city, and major metro media markets we can reach
at each level of fundraising. And please donate right now: http://www.JillStein.org/donate

Please donate right now: http://www.JillStein.org/donate. The
more we raise, the more ads people will see, and the more we break
through the noise of the political conventions. 

Let's
crash the conventions!





Please take an immediate step by making a donation: http://www.jillstein.org/donate
Authorized and paid for by Jill Stein for President
PO Box
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From fredlois2 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 13:50:52 2012
From: fredlois2 at gmail.com (fred Duperrault)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:50:52 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Report from the University Ave. Fair
In-Reply-To: <BAY165-W25846620CD68DB5F7605889EA20@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY165-W25846620CD68DB5F7605889EA20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C0F1B62A-10A0-4D95-A1A3-B7C381D9D5ED@gmail.com>

Thanks, Brian!

You are acting with the courage of your convictions
and with good knowledge of the issues.

Fred D.

P.S I, too,  must get busy doing some of that.


On Aug 26, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Brian Good wrote:

> There was a crafts faire downtown today in Palo Alto, I found by  
> accident, with a
> big Voter Registration for Obama tent, and life-sized cardboard  
> image of the
> president. People were getting their pictures taken with it.
>
> So I went home and got better clothes and took my "The Audacity of  
> War Crimes"
> sign and stood in front of their tent.
>
> A woman came by and said she was generally sympathetic to my point  
> of view but
> that though she was torn she felt that she ought to vote for Obama  
> on pragmatic
> grounds.  I said that if I were young like her I would probably feel  
> the same way,
> but I saw Germany 20 years after WWII and I saw what happens to  
> countries
> that think that international laws don't apply to them, and that I  
> was bound by the
> Nuremberg Principles not to be complicit in war crimes.
>
> A couple of the Democrats came out from the tent to parley and the  
> first guy asked
> me if I thought it would be better under Romney than Obama.  I told  
> him that Karl
> Rove wants Obama re-elected, because if Romney were elected he would  
> be
> expected to 1) balance the budget, 2) win the war in Afghanistan, 3)  
> demonstrate
> that trickle-down works and 4) outlaw abortion, and he can't do  
> three of those things
> and he won't do #4 because that would kill redneck indignance.
>
> The second guy listened quite respectfully for a long time while a  
> woman in American
> Indian jewelry who claimed to be African American ranted very  
> cogently.  When he
> finally got a chance he said he understood the problem the  
> Democratic left has and
> he thinks the party needs to find a way to address this.  I  
> suggested ranked-choice
> voting, pointing out that we could vote our conscience on ballots 1  
> and 2 and then
> vote pragmatically only on ballot 3 and then we could have it both  
> ways--voting to
> make a statement without throwing our votes away.
>
> For the woman in Indian jewelry I gave references to "What's the  
> Matter With
> Kansas" and "Words that Work".  After I got there with my sign I  
> didn't see
> anybody getting their picture taken with the cardboard image.
>
> Brian
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From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug 27 13:55:21 2012
From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:55:21 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] brian good at palo alto crafts fair
Message-ID: <503BDEB9.40600@sbcglobal.net>

Brian, et al
That was a terrific closing sentence:

After I got there with my sign I didn't see
anybody getting their picture taken with the cardboard image.

job well done!

Jim Doyle



From kazmarov at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 13:59:01 2012
From: kazmarov at gmail.com (A.J.M)
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:59:01 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Flyers for the UHC event in Palo Alto, August 30th
Message-ID: <CALWRXMX9WY12bdL3E4F2T=sSLxr+iwW3OJEnmX1nKhY-Q_7T8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Aloha there,

So I volunteered to create a flyer that explained the Stein/Honkala support
for healthcare for all. Since I really don't know Stein or Green Party
policies that well, I'd like help crafting the text. I thought it would be
best to use their own words on healthcare rather than just stating their
support.

Once I have workable text I can get something done in about a day.

Contact me at kazmarov at gmail.com, or kazmarov on Skype,

Andrew Mackay
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From vdf at juno.com  Mon Aug 27 17:18:26 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:18:26 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tabling possibility: Campbell's Oktoberfest, Oct. 13-14,
	2012
Message-ID: <20120827.171826.26708.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>

Hi folks,

Campbell's Oktoberfest (Saturday, October 13, 10 am - 6 pm and Sunday, October 14, 10 am - 5 pm) will have Free Speech spaces on South Central Avenue.  Spaces are free and can be reserved in 2-hour increments.  Only the space is provided; BYO tables & chairs.  Walking through the crowd to hand out fliers is not permitted, but you can hand them out at your own space.

Contact Neil Collins of the Campbell Chamber of Commerce (neil at campbellchamber.net or 408-378-6252) to arrange for a space.

Event URL: http://www.campbellchamber.net/oktoberfest.html

I am not available to volunteer that weekend, but I wanted to pass this info on in case the GPSCC, or anyone volunteering for Jill Stein, is interested.

Best regards,
Valerie Face
Santa Clara, CA

~*~*~*~
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http:/www.jillstein.org/


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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 28 00:43:05 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:43:05 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Obama & Compromise
Message-ID: <503C7689.7090906@earthlink.net>


"Obama: 'I?m Prepared to Make a Whole Range of Compromises'"

     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/08/27-5

Gerry


From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Tue Aug 28 11:40:51 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:40:51 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] FEC releases initial funds for Jill
 Stein campaign (with my personal thoughts on the subject)
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[gpca-forum] FEC releases initial funds for Jill Stein
campaign (with my personal thoughts on the subject)
Date: 	Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:02:11 -0700
From: 	Sanda Everette <sanda at greens.org>
To: 	gpca-forum <gpca-forum at cagreens.org>



Today FEC certifies matching funds for Jill Stein:
http://www.fec.gov/press/press2012/20120828_SteinMatchFund.shtml

Initially the campaign thought the primary season (for matching funds)
was over when we had our convention and this report goes just through
July 8.  Then they found out that the season ends after the last
convention....which is the Democratic one coming up in about a week. The
FEC released the first $100,000, but they submitted $171,517 for
matching funds at that time. I guess the government does more
verification, but I sure hope they get their money soon. I imagine they
submitted another request on August 1 and will submit another on
September 1. As part of the report, one can see everyone who donated and
how much, so I know that most have not come close to the $250 much less
the maximum contribution of $2500. They currently have a campaign to run
spot ads.  See http://www.jillstein.org/lets_crash_the_conventions

So it is not too late to up your contribution for matching funds. Can
you contribute now so that they can distribute their ads to more
markets?  We have been doing a great job of using social media, and I
have been amazed at how much national press coverage they did get (some
is linked from their website http://www.jillstein.org/media_coverage)
   but it is time to get those TV ads out.

I have been in awe at how totally committed Jill has been during this
campaign.  In case you are not keeping up with the news, Cheri Honkala
has been protesting at the Republican convention and Jill will be at the
Democratic Convention.

How are you helping with the campaign?  Even yard signs and wearing a
button is useful.....though I can't tell you how many times people have
asked me if I am Jill Stein.  I went to New Mexico to help get ballot
access signatures in the spring and to Phildadelphia in July. June
Breshares is already on the east coast and helped with the just
successful Virginia drive and I am leaving in two days to join her to
help with the drives in Arkansas and Alabama which have deadlines in the
next week or so.  Two of our Young Greens, Alex Shantz in the north and
Edy Alvarez in the south, are organizing a campus tour for Jill in late
September.  If you have connections to help them that would be great.

Beware.....I am not going to be polite now. As I said, I can see
everyone who donated and how much.  I know money is tight for many folks
and that line of tight varies greatly, but frankly I was surprised at
the small donations from some, though I realize some of you may have
donated more after July 8. I don't know how our party can continue to
expect people to run a Presidential campaign for us on $5 or even $50
donations.  I hope you are donating more than that when we run a local
candidate.

There are very few people on our lists that will receive this email.  I
would appreciate your forwarding this to your county lists.  You can
leave out my admonishment paragraph if you feel that is best.

Sanda Everette, GPCA delegation to GPUS, GPCA Coordinating Committee
How can what's already rotten be spoiled? (Nader 2000, Frank Young, WV,
2012)
"The politics of fear have brought us everything we were afraid of."
(Dr. Jill Stein, 2012)*
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From cbrouillet at igc.org  Wed Aug 29 09:35:36 2012
From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:35:36 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SF Mime Troupe in Palo Alto this evening!
Message-ID: <E1T6lEw-0008Ot-SI@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>



The Tony Award-winning SF Mime Troupe
presents-
<http://www.sfmt.org/company/archives/thelastelection/2012.php>For 
the Greater Good, or The Last Election

A Great Musical highlighting the clash between the 1% and the Occupy 
Movement...

Pity the poor 1 per cent. Abused in that sliver of press they don't 
own, condemned in the streets by a rabble who don't appreciate the 
benefits of being trickled down upon, and raked over the coals by the 
few politicians who aren't lined up to kiss their wealth and power. 
Talk about an oppressed minority! Finally, someone is stepping up to 
tell the story of these steaming sacks of benevolence as the San 
Francisco Mime Troupe presents 
<http://www.sfmt.org/company/archives/thelastelection/2012.php>For 
the Greater Good, or The Last Election, a tale that will warm the 
heart of every billionaire. Based on the classic 19th century 
melodrama The Poor of New York, the Troupe turns the story on its 
head, telling it from the point of view of the misunderstood 
Godzillionaires who have made this country what it is today: broke.

<http://www.sfmt.org/>http://www.sfmt.org


Mitchell Park, South Field
Wed, Aug 29th @ 7:00 PM (Music 6:30)
<http://www.google.com/maps?q=600+East+Meadow+Drive,+Palo+Alto,+CA>600 
East Meadow Drive, Palo Alto

FREE!!!!

If you've never seen the Mime Troupe before- treat yourself! This is 
one of their best shows!  This is also a great outreach opportunity 
and i could use help tabling... and offer tabling space for anyone 
wanting to table for the Green Party.

Carol
650-857-0927
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From snug.bug at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 29 09:39:27 2012
From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:39:27 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SF Mime Troupe in Palo Alto this evening!
In-Reply-To: <E1T6lEw-0008Ot-SI@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1T6lEw-0008Ot-SI@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY165-W4340A00B2627EA89B75C869EA00@phx.gbl>


And bring a jacket!  Last year it got really cold and windy before the show was done. 

Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:35:36 -0700
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
From: cbrouillet at igc.org
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SF Mime Troupe in Palo Alto this evening!



 The Tony Award-winning SF Mime Troupe

presents-


For the Greater Good, or The Last ElectionA Great Musical
highlighting the clash between the 1% and the Occupy Movement...


Pity the poor 1 per cent. Abused in that sliver of press they don't own,
condemned in the streets by a rabble who don't appreciate the benefits of
being trickled down upon, and raked over the coals by the few politicians
who aren't lined up to kiss their wealth and power. Talk about an
oppressed minority! Finally, someone is stepping up to tell the story of
these steaming sacks of benevolence as the San Francisco Mime Troupe
presents

For the Greater Good, or The Last Election, a tale that will
warm the heart of every billionaire. Based on the classic 19th century
melodrama The Poor of New York, the Troupe turns the story on its head,
telling it from the point of view of the misunderstood Godzillionaires
who have made this country what it is today: broke.


http://www.sfmt.org 




Mitchell Park, South Field

Wed, Aug 29th @ 7:00 PM (Music 6:30)


600 East Meadow Drive, Palo Alto 


FREE!!!!


If you've never seen the Mime Troupe before- treat yourself! This is one
of their best shows!  This is also a great outreach opportunity and
i could use help tabling... and offer tabling space for anyone wanting to
table for the Green Party.


Carol

650-857-0927




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From vdf at juno.com  Wed Aug 29 17:40:05 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:40:05 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Had Enough? Help launch our first TV campaign!
	(Jill Stein for Pr	esident)
Message-ID: <20120829.174005.18323.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com>

If there is any problem with the attachment you can read the content and see the video here:
http://www.jillstein.org/first_tv_ad_campaign

Best regards,
Valerie

~*~*~*~
Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America
http://www.jillstein.org/


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From vdf at juno.com  Wed Aug 29 23:00:56 2012
From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:00:56 GMT
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC proposition endorsements: contacting campaigns
Message-ID: <20120829.230056.20153.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com>

Hi folks,

Do we want to publicize any of the GPSCC's proposition endorsements by filling out endorsement forms for any of the appropriate campaigns?

If we do, here's some info for endorsing the propositions for which last week's meeting consensed to 4 Yes votes.

PROP 34
  *  From http://www.safecalifornia.org/
  *  Click Supporters, Endorsements.
  *  Click "Would your congregation or your organization like to endorse Prop. 34? If so, please download, complete, and send in this form." which takes you to
  *  http://www.safecalifornia.org/downloads/SAFE-CA-Endorsement-Form.pdf

PROP 36
  *  From http://www.fixthreestrikes.org/
  *  Click Endorsements.
  *  Click the "Endorse" button.
  *  Their online form looks like it's geared to individual endorsements, although there is a space for an organization name.
  *  I have emailed info at fixthreestrikes.org asking them how to make organizational endorsements.

PROP 37
  *  From http://www.carighttoknow.org/
  *  Click Endorsements.
  *  Click "Click Here to Add Your Official Endorsement (Businesses and Organizations, Elected Officials, Health Professionals, Chefs, etc.)"
  *  which takes you to http://www.carighttoknow.org/endorseprop37
  *  Fill out the online form (Under "Type of Endorsement" select "Government or Political Party").

PROP 39
  *  From http://www.cleanenergyjobsact.com/
  *  Click "Endorse Prop 39" which takes you to
  *  http://www.cleanenergyjobsact.com/endorse-prop-39/
  *  Fill out the online form (Under "Your Affiliation" select "Company/Organization").

PROP 40
  *  From http://holdpoliticiansaccountable.org/
  *  Click "Join Us" which takes you to
  *  http://holdpoliticiansaccountable.org/join/
  *  Fill out the online form
     OR
     Click "Download a Sign Up Form" which takes you to
     ->  http://holdpoliticiansaccountable.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/HoldPoliticiansAccountableSignUpForm.pdf

Note:
I have NOT filled out any of these forms for us.  I'm presenting the information in case we want to do this.  I suppose I could look into what is required for the "No" campaigns, too.  (I thought the "Yes" campaigns would be easiest to identify with a quick search.)

Best regards,
Valerie

~*~*~*~
Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America
http://www.jillstein.org/
 

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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 30 10:08:03 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:08:03 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] What to do for labor day
In-Reply-To: <499174B1-552F-4599-8B86-61106AB435D2@gmail.com>
References: <499174B1-552F-4599-8B86-61106AB435D2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <503F9DF3.5060204@earthlink.net>


FYI,

Gerry


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[gpca-forum] What to do for labor day
Date: 	Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:19:57 -0700
From: 	Sanda Everette <sanda.greensolutions at gmail.com>
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www.jillstein.org/labor_day <http://www.jillstein.org/labor_day>


Sanda
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 30 10:16:09 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:16:09 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: They said WHAT?
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If you want to know more about the crazy legislatures
out there re women's issues.

Gerry
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 30 10:39:17 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:39:17 -0700
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D'oh!


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From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com  Thu Aug 30 17:07:58 2012
From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:07:58 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] =?iso-8859-1?q?Hearing_Friday=2C_31_August=2C_11_AM?=
 =?iso-8859-1?q?=2C_Dept=2E_6=2C_191_N=2E_First_St=2E=2C_San_Jos=E9=2C_CA?=
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Hello, All:


       Thanks again for those who came to the hearing August 17 in 
Merritt v. Mozilo 
(http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/57677826/Merritt%20v%20Countrywide). 
David Merritt felt it had a measurable impact on the mood of the court.


       The next hearing in Merritt v. Mozilo is tomorrow, Friday, 31 
August 2012, at 11 AM in Dept. 6, Judge Mary Arand, Santa Clara County 
Superior Court, 191 N. First St., San Jos?, CA.  This will be a hearing 
regarding an appraiser, John Benson, who allegedly conspired with 
representatives of Countrywide to inflate the value of the property to 
push the Merritts to accept a purchase price 10 percent above market 
value.  On 16 February 2012, the Merritts were awarded a $1.8 million 
default judgment, because Benson failed to respond to a summons.  Since 
then, Benson hired an attorney and got a reversal, so the Merritts 
currently owe Benson $4,000 for attorney's fees.  This hearing will 
consider a motion by the Merritts to reverse that reversal.


       For the latest on Merritt v. Countrywide, see its web page at 
occupy.pbworks.com 
(http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/57677826/Merritt%20v%20Countrywide).


        This hearing will be in the new court house building, north of 
the old courthouse building, site of the August 17 hearing.


       We hope many of you can make this hearing, also.


       Best Wishes,
       Spencer


-- 
Spencer Graves, PE, PhD
President and Chief Technology Officer
Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc.
751 Emerson Ct.
San Jos?, CA 95126
ph:  408-655-4567
web:  www.structuremonitoring.com



From pagesincolor at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 30 19:39:54 2012
From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein discussion on Facebook
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www.facebook.com/groups/RevolutionaryTendency/?is having a discussion about Jill Stein.? Steven Argue and others are taking the position that Jill Stein is a capitalist/pro war candidate.? They make an interesting point when they point to a policy statement on her web site that advocates imposing trade sanctions on all countries that don't comply with human rights goals within 60-120 days after Stein takes office.? That statement is located here:
?
http://www.jillstein.org/palestine_israel_statement?.?I agree with Steven Argue that trade sanctions are an act of war and a form of violence. If Stein is really going to be even handed with her trade sanctions policy, then she should also cut off trade with Arizona, Michigan and California as well as Bahrain and Israel. Any comments?? 
?
I'm a member of the RT Facebook group, but I'm not sure how to get others to join the discussion group or if it is even visible to nonmembers.? Possibly clicking on the tiny sun symbol in the upper right of the page will bring up a menu that allows you to join the group.? Good luck and happy reading (or not).? Let me know if you successfully join the group. 
?
John Thielking?
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From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 31 10:52:29 2012
From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:52:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Anti-Foreclosure Alliance press release
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>Here's a press release on the summit. ?It seems they forgot to mention its from 1pm - 4 @ New Community of Faith church 6350 Rainbow Dr. San Jose, CA 95129. ?Web page for the church / venue http://newcommunityoffaith.org
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>http://www.sfgate.com/business/prweb/article/San-Jose-California-s-Effective-Defense-To-Hold-3830409.php
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>San Jose California's "Effective Defense" To Hold Its First Home Owner Foreclosure Summit September 15, 2012
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>Published 8:50 a.m., Friday, August 31, 2012
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>Occupy San Jose and the Green Party will host a Home Owner's Foreclosure Summit at San Jose's New Community of Faith Church to provide home owners who are facing foreclosure, or about to, with information presented by various panelist on what possible actions can be taken.
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>San Jose, CA (PRWEB) August 31, 2012
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>Come September 15, 2012, Henrietta Burroughs, East Palo Alto Today, will moderate a panel discussion featuring CJ Holmes, Thomas Spielbauer, David Merritt and Spencer Graves. The panel will be followed by a structured discussion of how attendees might organize action to more effectively confront the nationwide foreclosure crisis.
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>Both the San Jose Green Party and Occupy San Jose have come together to host this event for the Community in an effort to do their part on helping the home owners in crisis.
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>A recent San Francisco Foreclosure Audit identified "identified what appear to be one or more clear violations of law" in 84% of the 382 foreclosures they studied. Bill Black Professor of Law and Economics at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, observed that elite financial fraud has effectively been decriminalized. American families in financial distress need many things including effective enforcement of existing law.
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>CJ Holmes is a realtor in Santa Rosa and founder of Home Owners for Justice, and a regular feature on KPFA radio 94.1 FM.
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>Thomas Spielbauer is an attorney specializing in providing foreclosure assistance to people facing foreclosure.
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>David Merritt is principle author of 20th Century American Struggle, 21st Century Hope; Intergroup Relationship Consultant,Corporate owner and manufacturer and non-lawyer litigator against Wells Fargo, Countrywide Home Loans and others. He has been suing Bank of America and others in federal and since 2009. His complaint alleges that senior banking executives conspired to defraud millions of Americans with predatory loans that are allegedly designed to strip borrowers income, savings, equity and property from them and transfer it over to defendants.
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>Spencer Graves, PhD, is the Executive Director of Effective Defense Org and a researcher on foreclosures and other topics. He is an expert in statistical analysis and an advocate and organizer for citizens rights.
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>For the original version on PRWeb visit: http://www.prweb.com/releases/prweb2012/8/prweb9852752.htm
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From gerrygras at earthlink.net  Fri Aug 31 11:55:56 2012
From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:55:56 -0700
Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Progressive Mag on voting third party
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Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive magazine,
asks whether or not it is better to vote third party.
Apparently, he does not answer it.  Apparently to read
the full article, you need to read the (paper) magazine.
This is only a short except:

     http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/08/31-10
     http://www.progressive.org/third-party-dilemma

It says a little bit about Jill Stein.  And here are
the last 2 paragraphs:

========================

Or do you?do I??vote for Jill Stein or Rocky Anderson (or choose not to 
vote for President at all, as my predecessor, Erwin Knoll opted to do, 
not wanting to give his consent to the entire system), believing that 
only by staking out a real leftwing alternative are we ever going to 
move people toward the humane, peaceful, green, and egalitarian society 
we seek?

There is no easy way out of this trap, and I?m not going to spring you 
from it.

========================


I guess it might be a good idea to read the full article,
to prepare for what liberal Democrats might say.  I hope
to read it at my local library.

Gerry