[GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC Monthly...

John Thielking pagesincolor at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 22 18:27:27 PDT 2012


Also, to be honest, I hadn't thought as far ahead as submitting the resolution to the GP US.  I was thinking more of rallying the troops locally, such as by submitting the resolution to other GP counties locally, before moving on to a national campaign. 
 
John Thielking

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From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC Monthly...
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org, WB4D23 at aol.com
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 6:19 PM







My purpose in having a monthly discussion about Iran and Syria is not to just do some hand wringing, but build up to doing something such as organizing a protest.  I don't think it would be appropriate to just shove the protest idea down people's throats without an ongoing discussion. As for the resolution, I think that it would have more impact for the GPUS to recieve a resolution from the GP SCC, rather than just me as an individual submitting a proposal to the national Green Party. Otherwise, what is the purpose of us having monthly meetings on a local level?  I'm working on the exact wording of the resolution and will send that around sometime this evening.  Thanks.
 
Sincerely,
 
John Thielking

--- On Wed, 8/22/12, WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com> wrote:


From: WB4D23 at aol.com <WB4D23 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] First Draft -- Agenda for Thursday August 25th GPSCC Monthly...
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2012, 5:11 PM




August 22, 2012
 
John:  At last month's meeting, the consensus (from my viewpoint) was that the topics of "Iran" or "Syria" are topics too large and to vague for there to me any comment(s) other than the situation in each country is "terrible" (paraphrase).  Your request that these topics be on each monthly GPSCC agenda do not contain any scope of discussion, any specific proposal, or any explanation about what could be done locally.  IMO, as someone who has been compiling GPSCC agendas for years, it is unfair and unreasonable to be proposing agenda items without these details.  Similarly, it seems strange to me to be proposing spending money for ads on MTA buses in San Francisco when there is a GPSF.  The place to take that kind of proposal, IMO, is to that County GP (or, in this case, to the New York City GP).
If you want the GPSCC to recommend that the GPCA requwest its GPUS Delegation to sponsor a GPUS anti-war resolution, then say so...  But a more effective way to get that would be to contact the California GPUS Delegates directly.  You can get that information from cagreeens.org and follow the Party and Committee links.  Warner
 

In a message dated 8/21/2012 6:03:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pagesincolor at yahoo.com writes:





Additional items for the agenda:
 
1) We need to be sure to have our monthly discussion re: Iran and Syria.  
 
2) Also, we may need to revisit the decision about ordering 20 shirts, as the actual cost is more than originally estimated. I still have not heard from Caroline about what method she was using to screen print our previous batch of shirts, which could cut our estimated cost in half. 
 
3) Also, we should make a motion to formally endorse the position that the US and NATO should not intervene in Syria or Iran and pass this resolution on to other Green Party groups, especially the German Greens, who were in favor of the NATO intervention in Kosovo in the 1990's.  
 
4) We could also consider donating some money to an as yet undetermined group that would run SF Muni Ads in opposition to the Zionist hate speech against Palestinians that the MTA refuses to prevent from running because of a lawsuit in New York that ruled that the Zionist group has the right to run their ads on free speech grounds.
 
John Thielking

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