[GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-votes] Discuss: ID 12 - GPCA State Leg islative Demands 2012

Thu Dec 27 08:33:26 PST 2012

Hi, Valerie, Drew, et al.:

On 12/26/2012 10:46 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Regarding the issue of the use of time at monthly meetings, I like John's suggestion, "...make use of our one free event per month allowed at the Peace Center (in addition to our GA meeting) and have a potluck or something of general interest go on at that time," better than pushing most business back into the last hour of the business meeting.
>
> We did have a monthly movie night for a while, but public interest and interest in organizing it waned, so perhaps we could replace it with something else.  Or, if we don't have enough volunteers to make it happen once a month, perhaps once a quarter, or something like that.  For my part, I'm willing to make calls to registered Greens to publicize any events we have, whether they happen monthly or just every now and then.

       I'm for this.  Drew has said there is software to help us track 
responses to call, which needs someone with some tech savvy to get it 
set up for us, write procedures, etc.  Jim Doyle and I have a recent 
version of the database from the Santa Clara County Registrar of 
Voters.  I can help with this effort, but I'm not willing to take the lead.

       Spencer
>
> Best wishes,
> Valerie
>
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> We could discuss this in more detail at the January meeting.  Personally, I think we should be happy that our GA meetings as they are only go on for 2 hours.  Take a look at your average city council meeting for an example of what we really want to avoid. If we could find enough people to form committees of suficient size (a committee of one person is not a committee in my opinion) then I could see breaking the work up into smaller committees such as Move To Amend does.  But I don't see that happening just yet. It is a bit of a catch 22 I know. Also, as the committees grow to sufficient size to function on their own, they will have more stuff to report and the GA meeting might still end up being 2 hours long anyway. I would continue my earlier suggestion that we make use of our one free event per month allowed at the Peace Center (in addition to our GA meeting) and have a potluck or something of general interest go on at that time. We should
>   keep the GA meetings as they are (ie have both an as usual GA meeting and committees) until we reach a critical mass on committees.
>   
> John Thielking
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> --- On Sat, 12/22/12, perrysandy at aol.com <perrysandy at aol.com> wrote:
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> From: perrysandy at aol.com <perrysandy at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-votes] Discuss: ID 12 - GPCA State Leg islative Demands 2012
> To: vdf at juno.com, sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
> Date: Saturday, December 22, 2012, 2:27 PM
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> Hi Everyne,
>   
> Unfortunately I will be out of town so I will not be able to attend the meeting/party at Tian's on the 27th.
>   
> I don't believe meeting format is on the agenda, but in case it comes, I want to put in my two cents. I don't believe I have ever met Valerie, but I agree with her post completely. I believe in promptness, efficiency, short meetings, and active committees to build around issues.
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> Sandy Perry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valerie D. Face <vdf at juno.com>
> To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 12:58 am
> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-votes] Discuss: ID 12 - GPCA State Leg islative Demands 2012
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> On December 9 Spencer wrote, "...  I also suggest we restructure our monthly
> meetings so the first hour consists of a presentation and discussion with
> leaders of other groups focusing on finding common ground on this issue.  To
> accomplish this, I suggest we restrict the business of our current meetings to 1
> hour.  Any topic that runs over time gets referred to a committee or to the
> County Council. ..."
>
> I am not in favor of this.  Personally, I already find the late starting time of
> our meetings to be a bit of a deterrent.  I think that a business meeting should
> get to the business promptly and try to conduct it efficiently while those in
> attendance are still alert -- not make them wait until they are tired and
> anxious to go home.
>
> Because our platform covers a lot of issues, I think we should allow for the
> possibility of diverse issues being raised and not commit, in advance, to
> restricting the entire first half of the meeting to just one issue (or even a
> set of similar issues).  I also don't think that we should hand over a large
> chunk of our own business meeting to other groups -- it's a Green Party meeting,
> after all.
>
> I do think that we can find common ground with other groups, and/or work in a
> more focused fashion on specific issues, but I don't think it's fair to turn the
> business meeting into the vehicle for that.  The time restriction could easily
> prevent new business and issues from being brought to the group in a timely
> fashion.  I would prefer to see committees (or workgroups, such as those used by
> the Santa Clara County Move to Amend chapter) created to deal with focused
> issues, projects, types of coalition building, events, etc.  At the business
> meeting each committee or group could give a *brief* report on what it's doing
> and let folks know how to get involved and get more detailed information.  That
> way the business meeting would provide a good overview of everything we're
> actively working on while still allowing time for folks to bring up new business
> and feel that their ideas are being given a fair hearing (but they, like anyone
> presenting something at the meeting, should be r
>   espectful of everyone's time and be clear and concise with their proposals so
> we have time to get through as many items as possible).
>
> That's my 2 cents.
>
> Was there much discussion of alternative meeting format ideas at the November
> meeting?
>
> Best wishes,
> Valerie
>
>
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