From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 1 09:44:57 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:44:57 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] amy goodman November 10-th Message-ID: <5092A709.3000405@sbcglobal.net> Amy Goodman at San Francisco Green Festival San Francisco, CA November 10, 2012 | Saturday | 12:00 pm San Francisco Concourse Exhibition Center 635 8th Street at Brannan Street San Francisco, CA ( see map ) During this 2012 election season, Democracy Now!?s Amy Goodman and Denis Moynihan are on a national speaking tour to mark the 16th anniversary of the daily, independent, global TV/Radio news hour and to launch their new book, / The Silenced Majority: Stories of Uprisings, Occupations, Resistance, and Hope./ From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Nov 1 10:25:39 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:25:39 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ed Ehmke's Lockheed/Trident Sentencing Statement In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Ed got 10 days in jail. His statement is here. http://www.wevigil.org/ I've digested it below: Lockheed Martin is the world?s largest arms manufacturer, the largest manufacturer of nuclear missiles, and last produced a commercial aircraft thirty years ago. It spends millions in political contributions, funding ?think tanks? and in lobbying ?300 in Washington?not just to sell its weapons but to sell war itself. This brings it annual sales of $40 billion, almost all from taxpayers. Lockheed is the lead contractor for the Trident D5 nuclear missile. The USA's 14 Trident-carrying submarines can each carry 24 D5?s, each with up to 8 independently targeted warheads. (The W88?s are over 20 times more powerful than the bomb that destroyed Nagasaki.) Almost 40 years ago, Richard McSorley, a Jesuit theologian teaching at Georgetown University, characterized nuclear weapons as the taproot of evil in our time. Plants send taproots deep into the ground for water and nourishment. Nuclear militarism draws similarly upon our emotions, needs, and material resources to feed and be fed by a self-absorbed culture that is increasingly unable to look at and beyond itself. Our fears about our economic and physical security, our desire of power--even our passive hopelessness in this world of video games, consumer culture, and entertainment masquerading as news--keep us living in the moment. We quibble about the costs of health care, education, preserving natural resources; and aid for the poor, unemployed, and homeless; but we don't question nearly a trillion dollars spent annually on wars, on weapons that could easily destroy our planet, on drones that insulate us from the violence we inflict, on nearly 1000 military bases and the thousands of soldiers and mercenaries who people them. Lockheed Martin is not solely responsible for all of this. We are. Lockheed and its cohorts thrive on our passivity. By turning a blind eye, or fatalistically accepting the situation, we all are complicit. Only by speaking and acting?peacefully?can we achieve peace. We cannot be silenced. We cannot be silent. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Thu Nov 1 15:01:44 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:01:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Why Obama Doesn't Deserve My Vote Message-ID: persecution of whistle-blowers indefinite detention without trial drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia "If a Republican president were behind these policies, Democrats would be up in arms. . . . There are, however, a few third party candidates who agree that a pervasive disregard of human rights is not the way forward." http://www.stanforddaily.com/2012/10/31/why-obama-doesnt-deserve-my-vote/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 1 18:35:50 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:35:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: America must see our new ad In-Reply-To: <5093207386d3_603f12edeec1935a@worker3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <5093207386d3_603f12edeec1935a@worker3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <50932376.2060607@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jill Stein Subject: America must see our new ad Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:22:59 +0000 Size: 11505 URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Nov 2 14:18:28 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:18:28 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PA Weekly third parties article Message-ID: <509438A4.4010406@earthlink.net> Hi, FYI, the Palo Alto Weekly has a short article on third parties, "Slim chances, but worth fighting for". It's on page 28 of the paper. Also at: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/weekly/story.php?story_id=17873 (I was interviewed for this and am included.) It's accompanying the main article, "Passionate about politics". It's on page 24 and at: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/weekly/story.php?story_id=17872 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Nov 3 01:02:40 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 01:02:40 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Nearly the last time I'll ask you this: In-Reply-To: <509488d83ec41_731d1addef4818e1@worker2.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <509488d83ec41_731d1addef4818e1@worker2.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <5094CFA0.30404@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jill Stein Subject: Nearly the last time I'll ask you this: Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 03:00:40 +0000 Size: 11836 URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Sat Nov 3 10:31:30 2012 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:31:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 37: dog food v. steak ad Message-ID: <509554F2.4090704@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: The "No on 37" campaign is saying in part, "Dog food with meat requires a label, but meat for human consumption does not. It makes no sense." This is deliberately misleading. A more understandable statement is, "Dog food with meat (and GMO corn or soy) requires a label, but meat for human (or animal) consumption does not." Now it makes sense. Monsanto and others are spending over $1 million per day disseminating this kind of message, and Prop 37 (GMO labeling) may be defeated. You can help pass GMO labeling by tweeting or emailing everyone you know in California with something like, "Confused by anti-Prop 37 ad? Dog food with meat (and GMO corn or soy) requires a label, but meat for human (or animal) consumption does not." (140 characters) This corrects a deliberate deception on "www.noprop37.com ". (For a copy of this page with annotations, see "https://files.pbworks.com/download/djdB7SF1ui/occupy/60654211/No37.pdf".) The movie "Genetic Roulette" was screened at the Peace Center last night. On balance, I felt the movie was gross propaganda but not nearly as bad asthe "No on 37" campaign. If the movie were true, accurate, and balanced, I think that the opposition to GMO foods would have been much greater much sooner, fewer GMO foods would actually be on the market, and the law would require GMO labeling. WIKIPEDIA AND SOCIAL CHANGE In the month between Thanksgiving and Christmas last year, the Wikipedia article on SOPA got a million views: Editing Wikipedia is potentially one of the highest leverage activities anyone can engage in. I'd be happy to teach people how to edit Wikipedia -- both their markup language and their rules for appropriate content and editing. (I've made over 500 edits.) If people are interested, we can schedule a place to meet and get to work. For example, there is a huge gap between the Movie "Genetic Roulette" (http://geneticroulettemovie.com ; http://academicsreview.org/reviewed-content/genetic-roulette ) and the information available on Wikipedia. Whether Prop 37 passes or fails on Tuesday, the issue will still be active. It would be good to check the sources cited in the Genetic Roulette book, see if they say what the book claims, find counter arguments, and describe both from a neutral point of view in appropriate Wikipedia articles. Doing that could have a huge impact, I think. However, I can't do it myself. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahicks at isfdsonline.com Fri Nov 2 19:00:23 2012 From: ahicks at isfdsonline.com (Adam Hicks) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 19:00:23 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Strategic Two-Day Grant Seminar at Santa Barbara Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Nov 3 14:10:34 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:10:34 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "'The Time to Choose Sides on Climate Change Is Now'" In-Reply-To: <509580D2.5050405@earthlink.net> References: <509580D2.5050405@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5095884A.4030306@earthlink.net> Chris Hayes (MSNBC) says "'The Time to Choose Sides on Climate Change Is Now'" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/03-0 Gerry From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Sat Nov 3 20:24:01 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 37: dog food v. steak ad In-Reply-To: <509554F2.4090704@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: <1351999441.53518.YahooMailClassic@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Spencer and all, ? With all due respect, I think that the movie balances out the misleading pro GMO and pro pesticide propaganda that is out there --- way out there it turns out after doing just a little research. ? As an example of pesticide industry propaganda vs real science compare the following two articles.? The first one is from Quack Watch, the site that specializes in "exposing" natural healers and so on as frauds.? This site makes the claim that I have heard repeated on mainstream news that there is no significant nutritional difference between Organic and conventionally grown food.? It also advances a rather perposterous?"quantized theory" of plant growth that says that plants will only grow under conditions where when they reach maturity they have identical?nutritional content between Organic and conventional crops.? If there are nutritional deficiencies in the soil, the claim goes, the plants won't grow at all. ? http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.html ? The second site summarizes results from a study of the mineral content of Organic vs conventional food done by the respected Rutgers University ? http://www.organicnutrition.co.uk/whyorganic/whyorganic.htm ? I would say that the Rutgers study backs up the claim made in the movie that GMO crops (and/or crops treated with pesticides)?are mineral deficient.? Why the mainstream media continues to parrot the line that there is no significant difference in nutritional content between Organic and conventional food is a bit of a mystery to me. Thanks. ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking --- On Sat, 11/3/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 37: dog food v. steak ad To: "GPSCC" Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 10:31 AM Hello, All:? ????? The "No on 37" campaign is saying in part, "Dog food with meat requires a label, but meat for human consumption does not.? It makes no sense."? ????? This is deliberately misleading.? A more understandable statement is, "Dog food with meat (and GMO corn or soy) requires a label, but meat for human (or animal) consumption does not." Now it makes sense.? ????? Monsanto and others are spending over $1 million per day disseminating this kind of message, and Prop 37 (GMO labeling) may be defeated.? You can help pass GMO labeling by tweeting or emailing everyone you know in California with something like, "Confused by anti-Prop 37 ad? Dog food with meat (and GMO corn or soy) requires a label, but meat for human (or animal) consumption does not." (140 characters)? ????? This corrects a deliberate deception on "www.noprop37.com".? (For a copy of this page with annotations, see "https://files.pbworks.com/download/djdB7SF1ui/occupy/60654211/No37.pdf".)? ????? The movie "Genetic Roulette" was screened at the Peace Center last night.? On balance, I felt the movie was gross propaganda but not nearly as bad asthe "No on 37" campaign.? If the movie were true, accurate, and balanced, I think that the opposition to GMO foods would have been much greater much sooner, fewer GMO foods would actually be on the market, and the law would require GMO labeling.? WIKIPEDIA AND SOCIAL CHANGE ????? In the month between Thanksgiving and Christmas last year, the Wikipedia article on SOPA got a million views:? Editing Wikipedia is potentially one of the highest leverage activities anyone can engage in.? ????? I'd be happy to teach people how to edit Wikipedia -- both their markup language and their rules for appropriate content and editing.? (I've made over 500 edits.) ????? If people are interested, we can schedule a place to meet and get to work.? ????? For example, there is a huge gap between the Movie "Genetic Roulette" (http://geneticroulettemovie.com;? http://academicsreview.org/reviewed-content/genetic-roulette) and the information available on Wikipedia.? Whether Prop 37 passes or fails on Tuesday, the issue will still be active.? It would be good to check the sources cited in the Genetic Roulette book, see if they say what the book claims, find counter arguments, and describe both from a neutral point of view in appropriate Wikipedia articles.? Doing that could have a huge impact, I think.? However, I can't do it myself.? ????? Best Wishes, ????? Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Caroline --- On Mon, 11/5/12, Holiday Peace Fair wrote: From: Holiday Peace Fair Subject: next HPF planning meeting this Thursday 11/8 To: "Holiday Peace Fair lists" Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 12:40 PM 5:30 - 7 PM at the San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 S. 7th Street Please let us know if no one from your organization can attend the meeting and you are planning to participate on December 1 but have not yet sent the table sign-up form and check to Lois Fiedler. And if you know of any other groups planning to participate in the HPF but who may not have the information they need, please Reply to this message with as much of their contact info as you know. Also if you need printed flyers and/or tickets, please Reply to this message if no one from your group can pick them up from the SJPJC (open 4-7 PM weekdays, but call ahead to be sure supplies are adequate for your needs -- 408-299-7299) Color flyers for you to send to your members to follow in later message (Tuesday?) 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URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Nov 5 21:37:57 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:37:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 37: dog food v. steak ad In-Reply-To: <1351999441.53518.YahooMailClassic@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1352180277.9734.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Below please find a copy and past job of the discussion I had with Socialism Activist and Biology Student Steven Argue on Facebook about my earlier reply to Spencer about the merits of the movie Genetic Roulette: ? The url of discussion is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/occupysantacruz/permalink/338998792864187/?comment_id=339741712789895¬if_t=like ? John Thielking: In discussing the merits of the pro prop 37 movie Genetic Roulette (available on Youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnlTYFKBg18&feature=youtu.be ) I found some interesting articles on the Internet, one which debunks the claims made in the movie that plants can be nutritionally deficient compared to organically grown plants and one which shows a Rutgers study result showing marked differences in mineral content between organic vs conventionally grown vegetables. Since you are a student of Biology Steven Argue, care to comment on the ludicrous "quantized theory" of plant growth presented in the Quack Watch article? They claim that organic and conventional plants will have the same nutrient content because if there are any nutrient deficiencies in the soil, the plants simply won't grow at all. This contradicts anecdotal accounts of zuchinnis growing as big as my arm if the plants are given super food when they are growing up for instance. The quack watch article is here: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.html and the Rutgers results are here: http://www.organicnutrition.co.uk/whyorganic/whyorganic.htm ? Steven Argue's !st response: John, in answer to your questions, the real advantage of organic foods is that they lack pesticides. This is a huge advantage for the consumer, the workers and farmers who grow the produce, and the environment. Dr. Stephen Berrett makes a number of glaring mistakes, including saying that there is no difference between organic and non-organic foods because pesticide residues in non-organic foods are not high. This is just plain stupid. Pesticides are poisons made to kill animals and they are also toxic to people. Many do pose hazards in low quantities. For him to claim there is no difference is absurd. He is also wrong to say that organic crops aren't better for the environment. The fact that farmers may switch to pesticides under certain conditions doesn't change the fact that foods grown through organic methods are better for the environment. Berrett is, however, correct in saying there is no difference in nutrition between organic and non-organically grown crops.. To varying degrees plants can grow without proper nutrition, and this can have some impacts on nutrition, but this has nothing to do with whether the crop is grown organically or not. Herbicides and fungicides could have some impact on the nutrient uptake of certain plant species, but if those impacts are very big, they will kill the plant. I simply do not trust that other site you link to about organic nutrition because it makes no scientific sense, contains a lot of very specific and exact information, but does not cite any study or researchers in any specific way, and is a site set set-up to sell products. Still Dr. Berrett is wrong on the most important points where organics do matter: they are safer for the workers, farmers, consumers, and the environment. Farm workers and their children have many problems due to pesticides. Here are some materials the UFW has on the question: http://www.ufw.org/_board.php?b_code=res_white ? ? ? John Thielking's reply: Thanks for the info Steven Argue. I did a little more digging on the Internet and it appears that the original study cited by many health food outlets claiming a wide variation in mineral content between organic vs conventionally grown vegetables may have been widely misquoted. The original study was done in 1948 and can be read here: http://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/bearreport/. The study shows wide variations in mineral content of vegetables depending on what area of the US they were grown in and what kinds of fertilizers were used. The results do support the contentions presented in Genetic Roulette that crops can be successfully grown while having wide variations in mineral content, but says nothing about organic vs conventionally grown mineral content. I will continue to attempt to contact a Doctor at the National Institute Of Whole Health who published a summary of the Rutgers study that she claims shows variations in mineral content between organic vs conventional. Her article is located here: http://www.dailystrength.org/health_blogs/georgianna-donadio/article/rutgers-university-study-organic-versus-non-organically-grown-produce and her institute's phone number is 1-888-354-4325 but the citation she has at the bottom of the page while showing some nutritional variation in organic vs commercial does not back up her main thesis. ? Steven Argue and one other person liked John Thielking's reply. --- On Sat, 11/3/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 37: dog food v. steak ad To: "GPSCC" , "Spencer Graves" Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 8:24 PM Spencer and all, ? With all due respect, I think that the movie balances out the misleading pro GMO and pro pesticide propaganda that is out there --- way out there it turns out after doing just a little research. ? As an example of pesticide industry propaganda vs real science compare the following two articles.? The first one is from Quack Watch, the site that specializes in "exposing" natural healers and so on as frauds.? This site makes the claim that I have heard repeated on mainstream news that there is no significant nutritional difference between Organic and conventionally grown food.? It also advances a rather perposterous?"quantized theory" of plant growth that says that plants will only grow under conditions where when they reach maturity they have identical?nutritional content between Organic and conventional crops.? If there are nutritional deficiencies in the soil, the claim goes, the plants won't grow at all. ? http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.html ? The second site summarizes results from a study of the mineral content of Organic vs conventional food done by the respected Rutgers University ? http://www.organicnutrition.co.uk/whyorganic/whyorganic.htm ? I would say that the Rutgers study backs up the claim made in the movie that GMO crops (and/or crops treated with pesticides)?are mineral deficient.? Why the mainstream media continues to parrot the line that there is no significant difference in nutritional content between Organic and conventional food is a bit of a mystery to me. Thanks. ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking --- On Sat, 11/3/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 37: dog food v. steak ad To: "GPSCC" Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 10:31 AM Hello, All:? ????? The "No on 37" campaign is saying in part, "Dog food with meat requires a label, but meat for human consumption does not.? It makes no sense."? ????? This is deliberately misleading.? A more understandable statement is, "Dog food with meat (and GMO corn or soy) requires a label, but meat for human (or animal) consumption does not." Now it makes sense.? ????? Monsanto and others are spending over $1 million per day disseminating this kind of message, and Prop 37 (GMO labeling) may be defeated.? You can help pass GMO labeling by tweeting or emailing everyone you know in California with something like, "Confused by anti-Prop 37 ad? Dog food with meat (and GMO corn or soy) requires a label, but meat for human (or animal) consumption does not." (140 characters)? ????? This corrects a deliberate deception on "www.noprop37.com".? (For a copy of this page with annotations, see "https://files.pbworks.com/download/djdB7SF1ui/occupy/60654211/No37.pdf".)? ????? The movie "Genetic Roulette" was screened at the Peace Center last night.? On balance, I felt the movie was gross propaganda but not nearly as bad asthe "No on 37" campaign.? If the movie were true, accurate, and balanced, I think that the opposition to GMO foods would have been much greater much sooner, fewer GMO foods would actually be on the market, and the law would require GMO labeling.? WIKIPEDIA AND SOCIAL CHANGE ????? In the month between Thanksgiving and Christmas last year, the Wikipedia article on SOPA got a million views:? Editing Wikipedia is potentially one of the highest leverage activities anyone can engage in.? ????? I'd be happy to teach people how to edit Wikipedia -- both their markup language and their rules for appropriate content and editing.? (I've made over 500 edits.) ????? If people are interested, we can schedule a place to meet and get to work.? ????? For example, there is a huge gap between the Movie "Genetic Roulette" (http://geneticroulettemovie.com;? http://academicsreview.org/reviewed-content/genetic-roulette) and the information available on Wikipedia.? Whether Prop 37 passes or fails on Tuesday, the issue will still be active.? It would be good to check the sources cited in the Genetic Roulette book, see if they say what the book claims, find counter arguments, and describe both from a neutral point of view in appropriate Wikipedia articles.? Doing that could have a huge impact, I think.? However, I can't do it myself.? ????? Best Wishes, ????? Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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From: Common Dreams Subject: Our Readers: 74% Obama, 18% Jill Stein Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 00:30:21 -0500 (EST) Size: 17487 URL: From edenw at gal3.com Tue Nov 6 09:49:52 2012 From: edenw at gal3.com (eden) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:49:52 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] propositions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Eric A. Meece wrote: > I think it's important for all Greens to vote YES on Prop.30. Our public > schools and other public services need the funds that would be cut if it > doesn't pass. Also, vote NO on 38. If it gets more votes than 30, the cuts > will still happen. I agree with all, but not on 35. > 30-YES > 31-NO > 32-NO > 33-NO > 34-YES > 35-YES I agree except for Prop 35. Please vote NO on Prop 35. Look at http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/11/01/prop-35 which can be summarised by it's title: "California's Prop 35: A Misguided Ballot Initiative Targeting the Wrong People for the Wrong Reasons" > 36-YES > 37-YES > 38-NO > 39-YES > 40-YES Good luck to us all. -- eden From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Tue Nov 6 10:05:56 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:05:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] propositions Message-ID: <1352225156.99474.androidMobile@web125402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I strongly agree with Eden and urge a no vote on 35. Green is GO! Drew Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Tue Nov 6 10:06:26 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:06:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: propositions Message-ID: <1352225186.29888.androidMobile@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Nov 6 13:08:02 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:08:02 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Why I'm not Voting for Barack Obama Message-ID: "The corporate-sponsored two-party system cheats Americans out of policies and political representation that would lead to a fairer society for everyone ? but especially for the poor and brown folk. . . . Both candidates and their policies ultimately fail us on these lines, but especially Barack Obama, whose intelligence, eloquence and insight on racial injustice do not yield us a fundamentally different outcome than his primary challenger, whom many might say lacks all three characteristics." http://www.stanforddaily.com/2012/11/06/why-im-not-voting-for-barack-obama/ I'm sorry . . . . Give me a moment . . . . Sometimes I almost feel like there's some hope. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Nov 6 13:34:12 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:34:12 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: propositions - & wiki.cagreens.org In-Reply-To: <1352225186.29888.androidMobile@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1352225186.29888.androidMobile@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50998254.4030300@prodsyse.com> PROPOSITION 35 Regarding Prop 35, human trafficking, I personally agree with Drew: My wife and I both voted "No". However, the California and Santa Clara Green organizations both took "no position". The state organization had an extended discussion on that issue that, I believe, continued far too long. I could have misinterpreted the discussion, but it seemed like at least one individual passionate supported it while another opposed with equal passion -- and neither seemed to carefully consider the arguments put forward by the other. * Supporters of Prop 35 say that human trafficking is evil and current laws are not adequate. * Opponents agree that human trafficking is evil. However, they assert that Prop 35 essentially tries to address the problem by increasing the penalties in ways that could be miscarried to punish excessively people not involved in human trafficking. It also fails to cite relevant research into the reasons the problem persists in spite of current laws. In the latter category, Prop 35 fails to make adequate provisions for training a variety of people in different professions who could do things to improve reporting and prosecutions under current law. A summary of this discussion is available at "www.cagreens.org/elections/propositions/35 ". OPENING WIKI.CAGREENS.ORG TO MORE PARTICIPANTS? I believe the statewide Green discussion on Prop 35 (and virtually any other issue of interest) could have been better managed by opening "wiki.cagreens.org " to many more participants. Doing so, I believe, would likely have produced better summaries of the arguments on all sides of the issues involved, with fewer problems with people repeating their arguments seemingly without seriously trying to understand other positions. A more open Wiki could also help attract more people to the Green party, just as Wikipedia's success is built on its willingness to permit anyone to edit almost anything. Moreover, material organized on "wiki.cagreens.org " could in many cases be ported easily to Wikipedia; if Green concerns were more appropriately reflected there, I think we could have a bigger impact on the body politic. For example, the Wikipedia article on SOPA (the Stop On-line Piracy Act) got a million views between Thanksgiving and Christmas last year. When I first raised this question a couple of years ago, I was told that having it open made it too subject to vandalism and posting of material contrary to Green values -- and the California Greens did not have enough administrators. I think we could control that by requiring everyone to create an account before they can edit anything -- apart from the Talk pages associated with existing articles. If needed, we could require everyone to get someone already in the system to vouch for each new person before they are allowed to edit anything other than a Talk page. This should be enough, because the sources of any vandalism and anti-Green messaging could be easily identified, and appropriate action could be taken with the perpetrators. I'd be happy to volunteer to organize periodic (monthly?) Webinars / videoconferences on what we might want to do in this vein and how to do such. I'm a Wikipedian with well over 500 edits, in addition to being an engineer and a statistician who has used computers not quite daily for almost 40 years. I'm not a professional software developer, web designer, nor sys admin, though I've done a little of all three. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer On 11/6/2012 10:06 AM, Drew wrote: > > > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: * Drew ; > *To: * edenw at gal3.com ; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens org > ; > *Subject: * Re: [GPSCC-chat] propositions > *Sent: * Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:05:56 PM > > I strongly agree with Eden and urge a no vote on 35. > > Green is GO! > > Drew > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Tue Nov 6 13:58:13 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:58:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: propositions - & wiki.cagreens.org In-Reply-To: <50998254.4030300@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1352239093.53453.YahooMailClassic@web111103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I voted yes on 30 and no on 35.? However, I have serious reservations about 30.? Although the check sum that you can do comparing the legislative analyst's statement about how much money ($6 billion) will go to schools vs the total amount raised by prop 30 (also $6 billion) would lead me to cast a Yes vote, if you examine the torturous legal language of the actual law that is being voted on it unclearly states that 1/4 of some portion of the money will go to schools and furthermore that if the?portion that is supposed to go to schools is somehow calculated to be negative that the ballance owed will be taken from the portion allocated to schools in future quarters. I sure hope we don't wake up some time after prop 30 passes to find that what we really passed was a prop 98 type guarantee of funding for "local law enforcement", with?75% of the money going to the cops and prison gaurds.? Of course I also voted yes on 37 (after reading and understanding the entire law) and will likely be standing with my room mate next to a vegan restaurant with some Yes on 37 signs at about 4pm-5pm this afternoon.? That is all for now.? Thanks. ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking? --- On Tue, 11/6/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: propositions - & wiki.cagreens.org To: "Drew" , "Mike Feinstein" Cc: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens org" Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 1:34 PM PROPOSITION 35 ????? Regarding Prop 35, human trafficking, I personally agree with Drew:? My wife and I both voted "No".? ????? However, the California and Santa Clara Green organizations both took "no position".? The state organization had an extended discussion on that issue that, I believe, continued far too long.? I could have misinterpreted the discussion, but it seemed like at least one individual passionate supported it while another opposed with equal passion -- and neither seemed to carefully consider the arguments put forward by the other.? ??? ??????? * Supporters of Prop 35 say that human trafficking is evil and current laws are not adequate.? ??? ??????? * Opponents agree that human trafficking is evil.? However, they assert that Prop 35 essentially tries to address the problem by increasing the penalties in ways that could be miscarried to punish excessively people not involved in human trafficking.? It also fails to cite relevant research into the reasons the problem persists in spite of current laws.? In the latter category, Prop 35 fails to make adequate provisions for training a variety of people in different professions who could do things to improve reporting and prosecutions under current law.? ????? A summary of this discussion is available at "www.cagreens.org/elections/propositions/35".? OPENING WIKI.CAGREENS.ORG TO MORE PARTICIPANTS?? ????? I believe the statewide Green discussion on Prop 35 (and virtually any other issue of interest) could have been better managed by opening "wiki.cagreens.org" to many more participants.? Doing so, I believe, would likely have produced better summaries of the arguments on all sides of the issues involved, with fewer problems with people repeating their arguments seemingly without seriously trying to understand other positions.? ????? A more open Wiki could also help attract more people to the Green party, just as Wikipedia's success is built on its willingness to permit anyone to edit almost anything.? ????? Moreover, material organized on "wiki.cagreens.org" could in many cases be ported easily to Wikipedia;? if Green concerns were more appropriately reflected there, I think we could have a bigger impact on the body politic.? For example, the Wikipedia article on SOPA (the Stop On-line Piracy Act) got a million views between Thanksgiving and Christmas last year.? ????? When I first raised this question a couple of years ago, I was told that having it open made it too subject to vandalism and posting of material contrary to Green values -- and the California Greens did not have enough administrators.? I think we could control that by requiring everyone to create an account before they can edit anything -- apart from the Talk pages associated with existing articles.? If needed, we could require everyone to get someone already in the system to vouch for each new person before they are allowed to edit anything other than a Talk page.? This should be enough, because the sources of any vandalism and anti-Green messaging could be easily identified, and appropriate action could be taken with the perpetrators.? ????? I'd be happy to volunteer to organize periodic (monthly?) Webinars / videoconferences on what we might want to do in this vein and how to do such.? I'm a Wikipedian with well over 500 edits, in addition to being an engineer and a statistician who has used computers not quite daily for almost 40 years.? I'm not a professional software developer, web designer, nor sys admin, though I've done a little of all three.? ????? Comments? ????? Best Wishes, ????? Spencer On 11/6/2012 10:06 AM, Drew wrote: Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: Drew ; To: edenw at gal3.com ; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens org ; Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] propositions Sent: Tue, Nov 6, 2012 6:05:56 PM I strongly agree with Eden and urge a no vote on 35. Green is GO! Drew Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Tue Nov 6 14:14:58 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:14:58 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] A good year for minnor party debates Message-ID: <20121106.141458.23421.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, Below is the text of a post I made on Google+ a little while ago listing a bunch of the minor party debates. If you're aware of other minor party debates that have online archives or transcripts I'd love to hear about them. Best wishes, Valerie ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ We still need to change the rules for presidential debates so that minor party candidates who have a mathematical shot at winning the electoral college vote are included. However, this has been a good year for alternative debates that do include these candidates. I find that very encouraging. November 5, 2012: Second Free and Equal (www.freeandequal.org) debate between Jill Stein (Green) and Gary Johnson (Libertarian). Archive at http://youtu.be/iGqHeDxRD1k (and below). November 4, 2012: Debate among Jill Stein (Green), Rocky Anderson (Justice), Virgil Goode (Constitution) and Gary Johnson (Libertarian) moderated by Ralph Nader (www.nader.org) at Busboys & Poets Restaurant (www.busboysandpoets.com) in Washington, DC. Archive at http://nader.org/2012/11/06/3rd-party-presidential-debate/ October 23, 2012: Free and Equal (www.freeandequal.org) debate among Jill Stein (Green), Gary Johnson (Libertarian), Rocky Anderson (Justice), and Virgil Goode (Constitution) moderated by Larry King. Viewers ranked candidates using instant runoff voting and the top two (Stein and Johnson) had a second debate on November 5. Archive at http://youtu.be/e0vE5CTTSFI October 22, 2012: Democracy Now! (www.democracynow.org) Expanding the Debate special. The live feed of the Barack Obama / Mitt Romney debate on foreign policy was paused to allow Jill Stein (Green) and Rocky Anderson (Justice) equal time. Archive at http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2012/10/23/watch_full_expanding_the_debate_special_from_oct_22_featuring_jill_stein_rocky_anderson October 18, 2012: Independent Voter Network (http://ivn.us) online debate between Jill Stein (Green) and Gary Johnson (Libertarian). Archive at http://ivn.us/2012/10/18/gary-johnson-and-jill-stein-talk-specifics-in-online-debate/ October 17, 2012: Democracy Now! (www.democracynow.org) Expanding the Debate special. Parts of the previous night's Barack Obama / Mitt Romney town hall debate were re-aired and paused, giving Jill Stein (Green), Virgil Goode (Constitution) and Rocky Anderson (Justice) equal time to respond. Archive at http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/17/exclusive_expanding_the_debate_with_third October 12, 2012: Democracy Now! (www.democracynow.org) Expanding the Debate special. Vice presidential candidates Cheri Honkala (Green) and Luis Rodriguez (Justice) were asked many of the same questions posed to Joe Biden (Democrat) and Paul Ryan (Republican) the previous night. Archive at http://www.democracynow.org/2012/10/12/expanding_the_vp_debate_third_party October 3, 2012: Democracy Now! (www.democracynow.org) Expanding the Debate special. The live feed of the Barack Obama / Mitt Romney debate on domestic policy was paused to allow Jill Stein (Green) and Rocky Anderson (Justice) equal time. Archive at http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2012/10/4/expanding_the_debate_watch_democracy_nows_full_three_hour_special More Expanding the Debate coverage by Democracy Now! can be seen at http://www.democracynow.org/topics/expanding_the_debate [On Google+ a window for last night's Stein/Johnson debate appears here.] ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America http://www.jillstein.org/ Latest TV ad on climate madness: http://www.jillstein.org/climate_ad and http://youtu.be/i4_-hN5Esos ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50998c09ba5dbc087fc0st02vuc From fredlois2 at gmail.com Tue Nov 6 16:13:39 2012 From: fredlois2 at gmail.com (fred Duperrault) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 16:13:39 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Our Readers: 74% Obama, 18% Jill Stein In-Reply-To: <5098AB84.1020909@earthlink.net> References: <1264351918.1885893477@wfc.wfcDB.mail.democracyinaction.com> <5098AB84.1020909@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Thanks, Gerry for posting this. Fred D. On Nov 5, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > From perrysandy at aol.com Tue Nov 6 21:21:58 2012 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:21:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Stein - Honkala Statement on Ending Poverty Message-ID: <8CF8ABEF15E7895-9E8-1D160@webmail-d175.sysops.aol.com> http://www.jillstein.org/an_end_to_poverty Anend to poverty: Statement of support for Stein/Honkala 2012 POSTED BY JILL STEIN FORPRESIDENT 2683.80PC ON NOVEMBER 04, 2012 ? FLAG The Green Partypresidential campaign of Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala has a plan for the total,direct, and rapid abolition of poverty. The selection of Cheri Honkala as VicePresidential candidate is itself a clear sign of this commitment. Ms. Honkalais a formerly homeless mother and lifelong leader in the movement againstpoverty, unemployment, and homelessness. Today it is a sign of truly astonishing economic failure that the famous 1937words of Franklin Roosevelt are ringing true once again in this wealthycountry: ?In this nationI see tens of millions of its citizens?a substantial part of its wholepopulation?who at this very moment are denied the greater part of what the verylowest standards of today call the necessities of life. I see millions offamilies trying to live on incomes so meager that the pall of family disasterhangs over them day by day. I see millions whose daily lives in city and onfarm continue under conditions labeled indecent by a so-called polite societyhalf a century ago. I see millions denied education, recreation, and theopportunity to better their lot and the lot of their children. I see millionslacking the means to buy the products of farm and factory and by their povertydenying work and productiveness to many other millions. I see one-third of anation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished?? If it has accomplished nothing else up to now, the 2012 election campaign hasproven that America?s two establishment parties are hopelessly paralyzed whenit comes to addressing these life-and-death realities the American people facetoday. Instead, Democrats and Republicans cover their moral and politicalbankruptcy by refusing to even admit that there is a problem. Not a single timehave either of the establishment candidates even mentioned the word ?poverty?or ?homelessness? in any of their campaign appearances. Desperate times require desperate measures. The hour has come to break with thedying two-party system and begin building the new political parties that overhalf of Americans now say are needed. The Green Party presidential campaign ofJill Stein and Cheri Honkala is the best opportunity we have today to make thatmove. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala are running on a platform called the Green NewDeal, which is a comprehensive program to address America?s economic,environmental, financial, and political crises (see http://www.jillstein.org/green_new_deal). The GreenNew Deal calls for an Economic Bill of Rights similar to those proposed byRoosevelt and Martin Luther King, Jr. It calls for the immediate creation of 25 million new jobs, mainly in projectsto meet human needs ? housing, health care, education, and transportation ? andto protect and restore our environment. It calls for an immediate halt toevictions and foreclosures, and a federal bank to restructure the housingmarket and make it affordable for everyone. The Green New Deal will alsorebuild our entire economy around green technologies and sustainable practices;thoroughly reform the financial sector, abolish student debt, end bailouts, andreorganize failed banks as public financial institutions; and restore ourdemocracy and the full democratic rights of our people. It is time to end the destruction, the austerity, and the needless suffering. Amoral government would honor the sacredness of human life by ensuring jobs,housing, health care, and education for every family. Martin Luther King oncesaid America has the resources and the technology to end poverty; the onlyquestion is whether we have the will. It is up to us to start creating thatwill by taking decisive action right now. We support Jill Stein and CheriHonkala for President and Vice President of the United States of America. In solidarity, ? Marian Kramer & Maureen Taylor ? Reverend Edward Pinkney & Dorothy Pinkney - BlackAutonomy Network Community Organization ? Dave Marsh - American music critic, author, host of Livefrom E Street Nation, Kick Out the Jams, and Live From the Landof Hopes and Dreams ? Pastor Scott Wagers - CHAM Deliverance Ministry ? Lynette Malles - Occupy Homes Minnesota & MinnesotaPoor People's Economic Human Rights Campaign ? Marin Peplinski - Retired Principal - Loring NicolettAlternative School ? Mary Bricker-Jenkins - USA-Canada Alliance of Inhabitants& Former Co-chair of the Assembly to End Poverty ? Monica Beemer - Sisters of the Road ? Michelle & Rick Tingling-Clemmons - MIRICO Unlimited ? John Eskow - Screenwriter (Pink Cadillac &others) ? Eric Sheptock - Chair, Shelter Housing and RespectfulChange ? Mark Webber - Actor, Writer, Director ? Lee Ballinger - West Coast Editor - Rock & RapConfidential ? Mike Malinin - musician (Goo Goo Dolls) ? Jennifer Jewell - Director of Women in Transition ? Sister Margaret McKenna - New Jerusalem Laura ? Galen Tyler - Kensington Welfare Rights Union ? Glen Davis and Tara Colon - Poor People's Economic HumanRights Campaign ? George Friday - Move to Amend ? Dorothy (Dottie) Stevens - Massachusetts Welfare Rights ? Mark Dunlea - Executive Director - Hunger Action NetworkNew York State ? Bob Flanagan - Worcester Homeless Action Committee ? Ms. Fran - fighting foreclosure ? Reverend Bruce Wright - Refuge Ministries ? Rev. Dennis Segall - Coalition for the Reform of YouthServices ? Jeremy Alderson - Founder, the Homeless Marathon ? Paul Boden - Organizing Director, Western Regional AdvocacyProject ? Sister Adrienne Lawton, Associate Pastor, CHAMDeliverance Ministry ? Gloria M. Sandoval, President, CA Central Valley Journeyfor Justice ? Maren McDonell, Minneapolis, MN ? Ismaeel Alkhaleefa ? Sylvia Ordu?o *Unless listedseparately, organizational affiliations are for identification purposes only. Additional signatures are being gathered now ? more to come. 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The statewide vote totals on the above web site are at only 9 million with 98.5% of the precincts partially reporting. LA county alone (where Prop 37 is leading by 51.5% yes votes, which also improved overnight from 55% no votes) is estimated to have 1.5 million mail in ballots (probably 1/2 of which still need to be counted).? If prop 37 loses, I'm predicting it will lose by less than 1%.? The exit poll reported by www.rt.com (just once on their cable broadcast at 7:30PM last night) had prop 37 winning. Good luck and keep your fingers crossed. ? At least this time around the Green Party can't be accused of being a spoiler. ? Next step if prop 37 or prop 34 lose: Try again in 2014 or 2016.? Prop 36 initially lost by a narrow margin back in 2004.? Look at it now.? It is winning by a landslide. ? John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:27:59 +0000 Size: 13316 URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Nov 7 11:33:35 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:33:35 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Lives Under Drones: Friday 11/9 @ 4:15 PM Room 200-205 In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Lives Under Drones: Civilian Consequences of Drone Warfare A panel discussion on the civilian consequences of the United States's drone program in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Yemen within the broader context of how the US conducts its political and military operations in those countries. Friday 11/9 4:15 PM in building 200 room 205 (History corner of Stanford Quad--the corner near Hoover Tower) Panelists: Omar Shakir, 3rd year Stanford Law student and co-author of the Stanford Law School report "Living Under Drones: Death, Injury, and Trauma to Civilians from Drone Practices in Pakistan" Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink and Global Exchange and author of Drone Warfare: Killing by Remote Control Robert Crews, Stanford History Professor and co-editor of Under the Drones: Modern Lives in the Afghanistan-Pakistan Borderlands Shahzad Bashir, Stanford Religious Studies Professor and co-editor of Under the Drones:\ Modern Lives in the Afghanistan-Pakistan Borderlands. Visit antiwar.stanford.edu for more info. 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So we'll have to think about it for next time.? Nevertheless I'm happy we got education tax, trimming three strikes and green energy propositions past. ?Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 >________________________________ > From: John Thielking >To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 8:41 AM >Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Prop 34 and 37 too close to call > > >As of right now, http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/ballot-measures/?is reporting that Prop 37 has 53% no votes while Prop 34 has 52.7% no votes.?Last night, with 25% of the precincts reporting the no votes on 37 were at 57-58%. ?In my opinion these figures are too close to call a winner/loser at this point as up to 25% of the vote has yet to be counted.? More than 1/2 of the expected 12 million votes cast in this election in CA are being cast by mail. The statewide vote totals on the above web site are at only 9 million with 98.5% of the precincts partially reporting. LA county alone (where Prop 37 is leading by 51.5% yes votes, which also improved overnight from 55% no votes) is estimated to have 1.5 million mail in ballots (probably 1/2 of which still need to be counted).? If prop 37 loses, I'm predicting it will lose by less than 1%.? The exit poll reported by www.rt.com (just once on their cable broadcast at 7:30PM last night) had prop 37 winning. Good luck and keep your fingers crossed. >? >At least this time around the Green Party can't be accused of being a spoiler. >? >Next step if prop 37 or prop 34 lose: Try again in 2014 or 2016.? Prop 36 initially lost by a narrow margin back in 2004.? Look at it now.? It is winning by a landslide. >? >John Thielking >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 7 12:40:34 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:40:34 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Montana, Colorado on corporations In-Reply-To: <509AC718.1080803@earthlink.net> References: <509AC718.1080803@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <509AC742.4000706@earthlink.net> FYI, Ballot measures in Montana and Colorado about restricting corporations are winning 3:1 : NOTE: Despite the headline on the Common Dreams article, it appears to me that only the Montana initiative states that corporations don't have constitutional rights. Also the Colorado measure has no legal force, it is just symbolic. http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/07-0 http://electionresults.sos.mt.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=BQ&map=CTY http://www.standwithmontanans.org/ballot_language http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21941893/amendment-65-symbolic-but-still-needed-supporters-say?source=rss http://voteyeson65.org/ Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Nov 7 15:19:40 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:19:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] McKibben in Palo Alto SOLD OUT In-Reply-To: <509AB526.60908@earthlink.net> References: <509AB526.60908@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1352330380.51248.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> So here's the news. I have three tickets for Bill McKibben. I will be happy to sell them. Please contact me by email. I am in Sacramento. 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John Thielking --- On Mon, 11/5/12, Caroline Yacoub wrote: From: Caroline Yacoub Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: next HPF planning meeting this Thursday 11/8 To: "sosfbay-discuss" Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 3:50 PM I hope somebody is going to this. I am in Sacramento and won't be back until Friday afternoon. Caroline --- On Mon, 11/5/12, Holiday Peace Fair wrote: From: Holiday Peace Fair Subject: next HPF planning meeting this Thursday 11/8 To: "Holiday Peace Fair lists" Date: Monday, November 5, 2012, 12:40 PM 5:30 - 7 PM at the San Jose Peace and Justice Center, 48 S. 7th Street Please let us know if no one from your organization can attend the meeting and you are planning to participate on December 1 but have not yet sent the table sign-up form and check to Lois Fiedler. And if you know of any other groups planning to participate in the HPF but who may not have the information they need, please Reply to this message with as much of their contact info as you know. Also if you need printed flyers and/or tickets, please Reply to this message if no one from your group can pick them up from the SJPJC (open 4-7 PM weekdays, but call ahead to be sure supplies are adequate for your needs -- 408-299-7299) Color flyers for you to send to your members to follow in later message (Tuesday?) Questions/concerns -- please call or write: Joan Goddard 408-396-8039 joan at rujo.org -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 8 11:58:43 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:58:43 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Glenn Greenwald on how to snatch defeat out of victory Message-ID: <509C0EF3.6040800@earthlink.net> Glenn Greenwald has an article on a very plausible future: "From Liberal Victory to Disempowerment in Six Easy Steps" "Obama and Progressives: What Will Liberals Do with Their Big Election Victory?" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/11/07-7 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 8 12:13:23 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:13:23 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] New Hampshire Mothers in Government In-Reply-To: <509C11BA.8020806@earthlink.net> References: <509C11BA.8020806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <509C1263.2070400@earthlink.net> FYI, New Hampshire's Governor, 2 US Senators, and 2 Congresspersons are all mothers. http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/new-hampshires-all-mother-congressional-delegation-and-governor/ Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Nov 8 12:23:16 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:23:16 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing tomorrow, Friday, Nov. 9, 9:30 AM, San Francisco 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in Merritt v Countrywide Message-ID: <509C14B4.3060109@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Oral arguments are scheduled tomorrow morning, Friday, November 9, 9:30 AM, in the federal case of Merritt v Countrywide. The hearing is scheduled for courtroom 1, 95 Seventh Street, San Francisco, CA. Merritt v Countrywide is the 4th of 6 cases scheduled to be heard in this session. Each side gets 10 minutes in the first three cases and 15 minutes in the last 3. Thus, if everything runs exactly on this schedule with no other business, the Merritt v Countrywide arguments will be heard 10:30 - 11 AM. However, any or all of the first 3 cases might have been removed from this schedule or other activity could consume more than just the time allowed for oral arguments. In 2006, newlyweds David and Salma Merritt were tricked into a predatory loan by Countrywide Home Loans. The procedures used by Countrywide to obtain the Merritts' signatures "appeared systemic", according to Eileen Foster, Senior VP for Fraud Risk Management at Countrywide in 2008, interviewed on 60 Minutes, Dec. 4, 2011. Most of Countrywide's victims have meekly accepted the loss of their life savings and the confiscation of their homes through foreclosure procedures of questionable legality. David Merritt is different. He's not an attorney. However, he has worked enough with attorneys that he has been able to represent himself ("pro se" or "pro per") without being completely outclassed by attorneys for Bank of America, the parent company of Countrywide, and other major banks named as defendants in various filings by the Merritts. For more information, see "Merritt v Countrywide" at occupy.pbworks.com. If anyone would like to carpool, please let me know. I plan to drive, leaving my home in San Jos? at around 7 AM to collect one other person before starting towards San Francisco probably on I-280. This is rush hour, and we should probably plan to arrive in the courthouse by 9:10 AM or so to allow time to clear security and find the courtroom on the third floor before the hearing begins at 9:30. Spencer M: 408-655-4567 -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 8 13:59:13 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:59:13 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Ellen Fletcher passes away - longtime PA bicycling activist In-Reply-To: <509C2963.4090309@cwo.com> References: <509C2963.4090309@cwo.com> Message-ID: <509C2B31.9000607@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [transitionpaloalto] Ellen Fletcher passes away - longtime PA bicycling activist Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:51:31 -0800 From: Bart Anderson To: transitionpaloalto at yahoogroups.com /*From Annette Puskarich:*/ RIP Ellen Fletcher Former Palo Alto city council member Ellen Fletcher passed away yesterday after a battle with cancer. Ellen was a long time advocate for safer pedestrian and bicycle routes in our city. I hope that the new Adobe Creek pedestrian/bicycle bridge can be named in her honor. http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/index.php?i=3&d=&t=19419 Ellen Fletcher She wrote a piece about herself last May for the Bike Leagure http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/05/why-i-ride-18-for-40-years-of-btwd-smiles/ I was born in Berlin, Germany, in 1928 and was sent to England 10 years later. I don?t remember seeing anyone ride a bicycle in Berlin, but almost everyone, or so it seemed, rode a bicycle in England. So I started riding, too. As I grew up I enjoyed riding my bike so much I took many pleasure rides, as well as the regular rides for various errands. I moved to New York City in 1946 at the age of 17. The extreme crowding on public transit soon enticed me back on a bike, a rarity in the City in those days. I was the only one using the bike racks at Hunter College ?uptown? in the Bronx all year round. Moving to the California suburbs in 1958 with a baby, I thought my biking days were over. But it wasn?t long before I was again back on the bike, at least for short trips. But those short trips expanded greatly, partly for ideological reasons during the Arab oil boycott. Although I still owned a 1964 Plymouth Valiant until a few months ago, I rarely used it, filling my gas tank no more than once a year. The rest of my trips were by bike or with my bike on transit. When my son entered elementary school here in Palo Alto I volunteered to be ?Safety Chair? for the PTA. That got me started in bicycle advocacy. Bike lanes, under and over crossings at major obstacles, bikes on trains and buses and the Nation?s first bicycle boulevard. At one point when the City Council balked at adopting some bike improvement policies in its General Plan, I decided to run for a seat on the City Council myself and served on the Council for twelve years, from 1977 to 1989. I don?t remember when or where I started serving at Energizer stations on Bike to Work Day. Probably when BTWD started in the seventies (I?m not sure when that was). I?m skipping it this year due to my deteriorating physical condition. Now at the age of 83, I have terminal lung cancer and can no longer pedal. I now have an electric motor in a trailer, the RideKick, to get me around, still on my bike. I?m so grateful because otherwise I?d have to rely on others for rides. I?m so glad I can still get around by bike! From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 8 14:38:51 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:38:51 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Iran fired at a drone In-Reply-To: <509C3440.6070702@earthlink.net> References: <509C3440.6070702@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <509C347B.4070009@earthlink.net> "Pentagon: Iran Fighter Jets Fired at US Drone" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/08-7 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 8 14:56:42 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:56:42 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Iran fired at a drone In-Reply-To: <509C347B.4070009@earthlink.net> References: <509C3440.6070702@earthlink.net> <509C347B.4070009@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <509C38AA.2020502@earthlink.net> Glenn Greenwald's comment: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/11/08-12 Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > "Pentagon: Iran Fighter Jets Fired at US Drone" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/08-7 > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 8 17:04:37 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:04:37 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Let's keep on moving forward. In-Reply-To: <509c4d857a7fe_7b5cff5eec9729e@worker2.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <509c4d857a7fe_7b5cff5eec9729e@worker2.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <509C56A5.9020605@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jill Stein Subject: Let's keep on moving forward. Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 00:25:41 +0000 Size: 10005 URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Nov 9 00:43:34 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:43:34 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: [gpca-forum] A better race is CD 12 in 2014 In-Reply-To: <20121109010050.ed1fb2a5e3eb3651f51d693dd6df412c.218c0233da.wbe@email04.secureserver.net> References: <20121109010050.ed1fb2a5e3eb3651f51d693dd6df412c.218c0233da.wbe@email04.secureserver.net> Message-ID: I sure as hell hope so, Barry. Congress is our most accessible democratic institution. From: barry at hermansons.com To: sonomajack at gmail.com; gpca-forum at cagreens.org Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 01:00:50 -0700 Subject: [gpca-forum] A better race is CD 12 in 2014 Nancy Pelosi is my representative in Congress. I believe it is possible for a Green to finish 2nd in the June 2014 primary election and advance to the November ballot. Barry Hermanson -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpca-forum] CD-35 race in 2014 to highlight Top-Two From: Jack Wagner Date: Wed, November 07, 2012 9:32 pm To: GPCA Forum Anthony Vieyra (G) got 18.6% in the "Open Primary". The Top Two were both Democrats, taking 55% and 45%. http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/us-rep/district/35/ It is unlikely a Republican will run in this district in 2014. And also possible another Democrat won't either. Does anyone know if Anthony is planning on running again? It look like there is a high "other" vote and "other" registration in this district. 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We expect them to go quickly -- here's the link:" http://dothemath-paloalto.eventbrite.com/ At this moment it looks like the page will still let you buy tickets. It says that sales end in 8 hours and 14 minutes. Best wishes, Valerie ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/509d973d192df173c6b71st03vuc From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Nov 11 16:27:39 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:27:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jt. Statesman Message-ID: <1352680059.90158.YahooMailRC@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi out there. This Saturday is Jr. Statesman. I'm planning on being there. Probably around 1:15 to get set up. Anyway---who has the tabling stuff? Who is planning to table? Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Thielking --- On Sun, 11/11/12, Casey St. Clair via Change.org wrote: From: Casey St. Clair via Change.org Subject: Target vs. Thanksgiving To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 11, 2012, 1:13 PM #yiv1488127456 p {font-size:13px;color:#333333;line-height:1.4;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;} #yiv1488127456 a {color:#008884;} #yiv1488127456 a:hover {color:#01AAAE;} ? Target employees and customers demand that Target stay closed Thanksgiving night for Black Friday shopping. Sign Casey's Petition John - My name is Casey, and I'm a proud Target employee. But I just found out that Target might take away Thanksgiving dinner with my family. This Thanksgiving, Target could open earlier than ever, with Black Friday shopping starting as early as 9pm on Thanksgiving night. I love my job, and for the past six years have gotten stellar reviews from my supervisors. But I can't even request time off -- it's mandatory for all Target employees to work Black Friday hours, even though it means some people start as early as 8pm on Thanksgiving! This policy is irresponsible and doesn't give me -- or consumers who want to take advantage of sales -- a chance to enjoy Thanksgiving. I started a petition on Change.org because Target needs to give Thanksgiving back to its employees by not opening on Thanksgiving. Sign my petition by clicking here. I moved to California from the East Coast for a teaching certificate Master's program. That means I've been working two jobs just to make ends meet, even when I was going to school full time. I've been looking forward to Thanksgiving as not just a day off, but the only time I'll get all year to see my family. I know Target won't be happy because I'm speaking out, but that's how important it is for me and my fellow Target employees to spend Thanksgiving relaxing with our loved ones. Last year, another Target employee started a petition on Change.org asking them to open later for Black Friday that got a lot of attention. I hope that by calling out Target again they will pay attention and push back opening times at stores across the country. Click here to sign my petition asking Target to save Thanksgiving for both employees and customers by opening later for holiday sales. Thank you for your support. Casey St. Clair Corona, California This email was sent by Change.org to pagesincolor at yahoo.com ??|?? Start a petition Unsubscribe. Edit your email notification settings. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But I just found > out that Target might take away Thanksgiving dinner with my family. > > *This Thanksgiving, Target could open earlier than ever, with Black > Friday shopping starting as early as 9pm on Thanksgiving night. *I > love my job, and for the past six years have gotten stellar reviews > from my supervisors. But I can't even request time off -- it's > mandatory for all Target employees to work Black Friday hours, even > though it means some people start as early as 8pm on Thanksgiving! > > This policy is irresponsible and doesn't give me -- or consumers who > want to take advantage of sales -- a chance to enjoy Thanksgiving. > > *I started a petition on Change.org because Target needs to give > Thanksgiving back to its employees by not opening on Thanksgiving. > Sign my petition by clicking here. > * > > > I moved to California from the East Coast for a teaching certificate > Master's program. That means I've been working two jobs just to make > ends meet, even when I was going to school full time.*I've been > looking forward to Thanksgiving as not just a day off, but the only > time I'll get all year to see my family.* > > I know Target won't be happy because I'm speaking out, but that's > how important it is for me and my fellow Target employees to spend > Thanksgiving relaxing with our loved ones. > > Last year, another Target employee started a petition on Change.org > asking them to open later for Black Friday that got a lot of > attention. I hope that by calling out Target again they will pay > attention and push back opening times at stores across the country. > > *Click here to sign my petition asking Target to save Thanksgiving > for both employees and customers by opening later for holiday sales. > * > > > Thank you for your support. > > Casey St. Clair > Corona, California > > This email was sent by Change.org to pagesincolor at yahoo.com > > | Start a petition > > > Unsubscribe. > > Edit your email notification settings > . > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Sun Nov 11 18:49:36 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:49:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] How to effectively help people in New York affected by Sandy Message-ID: <1352688576.47746.YahooMailClassic@web111115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I just now donated the last $40 in my bank account to the Long Island Food Not Bombs. Their donation button is located here: http://www.lifnb.com/faq ? I heard on NBC Nightly News that the Red Cross is not getting relief into some of the areas where it is needed most. The poor people are being neglected obviously.? I figure that Food Not Bombs is set up to help the poor, so they will be more effective at getting aid to where it is needed most.? There was another storm after Sandy with more rain and snow than Sandy, so people are hurting all over again, if they even got bailed out the first time. The main page for LI FNB is located here: http://www.lifnb.com/ ? The main list of all the FNB orgs in the New York area is located here: ? http://www.foodnotbombs.net/newyork.html ? Good luck and Godspeed. ? John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Nov 11 19:59:29 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:59:29 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein finished 4th with 0.3% of the vote Message-ID: <50A07421.1070702@prodsyse.com> I haven't seen the election results posted here: "www.greenpartywatch.org/2012/11/07/jill-stein-election-results". "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein_presidential_campaign,_2012" says that the Green Party nominee was on the ballot in states representing 49.6% of the electoral college in 2004, 68.4% in 2008 and 87.2% in 2012. That's modest progress, but we'll need something much more to break the current duopoly. Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From cbrouillet at igc.org Sun Nov 11 21:14:37 2012 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:14:37 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] KPFA Wall Street Conspiracy Benefit Message-ID: If anyone wants to carpool, I plan to go. Carol 650-857-0927 Film Screening- The Wall Street Conspiracy, Monday, November 12 at 7:30 PM - 9:30 PM, Grand Lake Theater in Oakland, 3200 Grand Ave. Oakland Doors open at 7:00?admission is $10 for this one time showing Meet filmmaker Kristina Leigh Copeland, who began digging into Wall Street irregularities years before the 2008 financial collapse. What she uncovered ?manipulation of the market through "naked short selling" of stocks ? has became the focus of her first documentary, The Wall Street Conspiracy. 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URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Sun Nov 11 21:53:22 2012 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:53:22 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein finished 4th with 0.3% of the vote In-Reply-To: <50A07421.1070702@prodsyse.com> References: <50A07421.1070702@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <50A08ED2.8060205@aceweb.com> On 11/11/2012 07:59 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: > I haven't seen the election results posted here: > "www.greenpartywatch.org/2012/11/07/jill-stein-election-results". > > > "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein_presidential_campaign,_2012" > says that the Green Party nominee was on the ballot in states > representing 49.6% of the electoral college in 2004, 68.4% in 2008 and > 87.2% in 2012. > > > That's modest progress, but we'll need something much more to > break the current duopoly. > > > Spencer > > Meanwhile, the duopoly has gotten creakier and the national debt has grown to incomprehensible levels. I'm baffled by what it takes to get people to pay attention to the situation. Twenty years ago it was very predictable that things would get worse for as long as people trusted things to be okay. Sad to report that the prediction was good. Maybe more people will wake up to the fact that green values are a useful part of the solution. I've sort of concluded that people need to see the value of *Green Values*(TM) in their own lives before they are willing to vote for them in the public arena. That's why I like to tell people "stop voting for oil companies at the gas pump." Unfortunately, too many of them see the the limits on their mobility instead of the "unlimits" on their future that saving fuel gets us. I'm a bit sour on the system right now. Maybe we could have done more if there were candidates making the case all summer, but top two scratched that. I'm thinking the answer is to be a movement party, but that seems to take a huge leap of faith from lots of people that are happier sitting on their asses. Not sure what to do about that. I agree that Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala are the best candidates we've had since Nader. Hopefully that means that the rest of the National Greens are getting it on what makes a good Presidential Candidate. Maybe then we'll continue to progress on that! -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added pictures from San Jose Bike Party's Halloween Ride! The Kiwi Green pin I got in Baltimore is now on a Arizona quarter. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Nov 12 03:40:56 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 03:40:56 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein finished 4th with 0.3% of the vote In-Reply-To: <50A08ED2.8060205@aceweb.com> References: <50A07421.1070702@prodsyse.com> <50A08ED2.8060205@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <50A0E048.8020601@prodsyse.com> On 11/11/2012 9:53 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > On 11/11/2012 07:59 PM, Spencer Graves wrote: >> I haven't seen the election results posted here: >> "www.greenpartywatch.org/2012/11/07/jill-stein-election-results". >> >> >> "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein_presidential_campaign,_2012" >> says that the Green Party nominee was on the ballot in states >> representing 49.6% of the electoral college in 2004, 68.4% in 2008 >> and 87.2% in 2012. >> >> >> That's modest progress, but we'll need something much more to >> break the current duopoly. >> >> >> Spencer >> >> > Meanwhile, the duopoly has gotten creakier and the national debt has > grown to incomprehensible levels. I'm baffled by what it takes to get > people to pay attention to the situation. Twenty years ago it was very > predictable that things would get worse for as long as people trusted > things to be okay. Sad to report that the prediction was good. Maybe > more people will wake up to the fact that green values are a useful > part of the solution. Cheer up: Things could get simultaneously worse and better: The runaway inflation in corporate welfare is continuing. The average annual income (GDP per capita) has doubled in the US over the past 40 years, but the median family income has increased only about 23% (0.5% per year), and dropped in 2010, the last year for which I've seen figures. If that decline continues, we will start to see options for more serious radical change; this seems likely to me. However, I'm concerned that the ultra wealthy will be able to turn this discontent into a populist rebellion so far Right that it could make the Tea Party seem liberal by comparison -- possibly leading the US to launch a preemptive nuclear war against Iran or who-knows-who. Alternatively, that discontent could come to the Greens. Unfortunately, we are neither sufficiently well organized nor tech savvy to be able to overcome our financial deficiencies to beat the big money in their desire for more crony capitalism -- which suggests to me that thermonuclear war may be more likely than the US voting Green. Spencer > > I've sort of concluded that people need to see the value of *Green > Values*(TM) in their own lives before they are willing to vote for > them in the public arena. That's why I like to tell people "stop > voting for oil companies at the gas pump." Unfortunately, too many of > them see the the limits on their mobility instead of the "unlimits" on > their future that saving fuel gets us. > > I'm a bit sour on the system right now. Maybe we could have done more > if there were candidates making the case all summer, but top two > scratched that. I'm thinking the answer is to be a movement party, but > that seems to take a huge leap of faith from lots of people that are > happier sitting on their asses. Not sure what to do about that. > > I agree that Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala are the best candidates > we've had since Nader. Hopefully that means that the rest of the > National Greens are getting it on what makes a good Presidential > Candidate. Maybe then we'll continue to progress on that! > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From chrisbvail at yahoo.com Mon Nov 12 11:38:27 2012 From: chrisbvail at yahoo.com (Chris Vail) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:38:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Learning from success Message-ID: <1352749107.39828.YahooMailClassic@web161602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> The November 12 post of http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/ is a review of the Democratic Party's "Project Narwhal", which allowed them to manage their resources more effectively than the Republicans. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perrysandy at aol.com Mon Nov 12 16:09:29 2012 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:09:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peoples Tribune Interview with Jill Stein Nov. 8 Message-ID: <8CF8F4A48B781D7-8F0-44520@webmail-d030.sysops.aol.com> Green Party is an Unstoppable Force! The People?s Tribune interviewed Jill Stein, Presidential candidate for the Green Party. By Sandy Reid People?s Tribune: Did the Green Party achieve its goals in the Presidential election? Jill Stein: The Green Party received something in the order of ? million votes, maybe more. Every vote is an enormous victory on a very steeply tilted playing field. The election results confirm that we are winning though not in all of its rigged dimensions. The measure of a win to me is have we recovered our political voice, our political courage? Have we established a fight going forward? Do we have a vehicle to advance that fight? I think we have. The momentum is riding high. New people are coming into the Party, especially the young. This is the real win. Youth are the future. A whole generation of young people are living in poverty. The Green Party is providing a platform for the social movement that is alive and well. PT: Do you see growing numbers of people getting involved in a third party? JS: Yes. A lot of powerful voices from the social movement have identified the Green Party as the way forward. Obama has not a single solution to offer. Obama said his priority now is to cut a deal with the Republicans, a grand bargain that will start to dismantle Medicare and Medicaid. There are 20 million seniors being kept out of poverty by social security. We have the numbers to lift the cap on social security and have the wealthy pay their fair share. There?s plenty of money to keep social security repaying those that have already invested in it. In this election, we took the single stand to support Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, to stop the next free trade agreement, which will be another heavy wake up call. When the Transpacific Partnership that the president is negotiating is unleashed, it will continue sending jobs overseas. The Keystone Pipeline will be another big wake up call as the president gives the thumbs up to the northern half. He will no doubt try to cover his tracks with some marginal green jobs proposal that won?t be a drop in the ocean of what he?s doing in unleashing the fossil fuel change onto the planet. When people see the thumbs up for keystone, it will be a big mobilizer. It?s great to have built the vehicle onto which people can climb. It?s all about us acquiring the politics of courage to enable us to stand up and use the political power that we already have. PT: What?s the next step for the Green Party? JS: One idea is to focus a lot on local races where Greens are already a strong force. All over the country we?re seeing incredible candidates in places we never expected, like Tennessee and Texas and in some of the Republican southern states. There is a big fight on DC statehood; the Greens are standing up for that. There is a constitutional amendment to clarify that everyone has the right to vote. The Greens are standing up. The Greens are saying lets stop these bailouts to Wall Street, which are ongoing to the tune of $40 billion. We need to be a force to stop the keystone pipeline, to start the Green New Deal, to bail out the students, to put a moratorium on the foreclosures, to bring the troops home, downsize the military, and enact Medicare for all. These are all within our reach. We can?t afford to wait until the next elections. Together we will continue to be that unstoppable force. Visit the Green Party website; jillstein.org to become part of the team,to sign up to volunteer and to stay in touch. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Common Dreams articles are at: http://www.commondreams.org/ I think a good place to start is: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/12-0 and http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/12-11 Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Nov 13 00:19:39 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:19:39 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: [ORWC] ALL OUT to Tuesday Townhall in East Palo Alto! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: James Lee has been working his heart out and I hope North County Greens can show up for this meeting. B Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 00:02:30 -0800 Subject: [ORWC] ALL OUT to Tuesday Townhall in East Palo Alto! From: jamesleerwc at gmail.com To: hobredo at gmail.com Good evening Occupiers, It looks like all the furor directed at outgoing county Supervisor Rose Jacobs Gibson (from her constituents who disagree with her support for a new jail) is causing her to do some major damage control. :) She hosted a "job fair for formerly incarcerated county residents" last week, and on Tuesday evening she will be hosting an "informational town hall" about the new jail in her home town of East Palo Alto. Let's attend it and make sure she hears our opposition to the new jail! Tuesday, November 13, 2012 (that's TODAY, depending on when you read this!) 5 PM - 6:30 PM East Palo Alto City Hall, Council Chambers2415 University Avenue, East Palo Alto Hear about: - Public Safety Realignment developments - Services and programs for post-release community supervision individuals - Employment initiatives for formerly incarcerated residents- The status of jail overcrowding - New and innovative programs being considered for the new correctional facility Let's go and attend! I will be there a few minutes late but no later than 5:15. :) E-mail me back if you can come! If enough people confirm attendance I will alert media. :) J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And, in the end, it was the people's view of free speech that carried the day. http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/events/cis-speaker-series-stopping-sopa-copyright-free-speech-and-popular-constitutionalism When: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:50pm - 2:00pm Stanford Law School - Room 280B 559 Nathan Abbott Way, Stanford, CA 94305 Free and open to the public. RSVP for this Free Event Today: http://enews.law.stanford.edu/t/r-l-kkutjhl-jlhlhjurc-t/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. ? John Thielking --- On Tue, 11/13/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: Re: petition - PROP 37: Count ALL the Votes! To: "Darlene Wallach" Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 7:51 PM Thanks Darlene.? ? I signed it based on another e-mail I got today.? If the person generating the petition would only scan the entire Sec of State web?page for the propositions vote counts?they would find the report on uncounted ballots located here: http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/2012-elections/nov-general/pdf/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf ? There are currently 2.3 million uncounted ballots.?The percentage of no votes on Prop 37 continues to decline as more votes are counted, but not at the same rate as occurred overnight on Nov 6th-7th.? In the last 1.2 million votes counted the no votes percentage only declined by 0.3 %.?This rate of decline is consistent with Prop 37?being exactly tied at?50% no to?50% yes in that batch of 1.2 million votes.?I'm keeping track of the vote counts by going here: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/ballot-measures/ ? There was a person interviewed on www.rt.com 's Breaking The Set yesterday who claimed that the Prop 37 vote was rigged, possibly as a conspiracy by Monsanto, though he didn't offer any evidence except for the fact that the initial no votes percentage was at odds with the opinion polls conducted just before the election.? Thanks. ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking --- On Tue, 11/13/12, Darlene Wallach wrote: From: Darlene Wallach Subject: petition - PROP 37: Count ALL the Votes! To: "John Thielking" Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 11:50 AM John, Have you seen this? http://signon.org/sign/prop-37-count-all-the?source=mo&id=57739-23551406-RchYGCx Darlene Wallach -- equal justice under law -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Nov 14 10:09:39 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:09:39 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Educational Barometers Message-ID: A couple of years ago I heard someone from the Silicon Valley Education Foundation say that success in 8th-grade Algebra what a strong predictor for who's going to college and who's not--and about half of the kids were not succeeding in Algebra. 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As an unapologetic Green Party man, I could argue for or against both propositions. Dear Green Friends, let's have a timely dialogue about this. L.A. Moves Ahead With Plan to Increase Sales Tax Los Angeles Times, November 13, 2012 The Los Angeles City Council agreed to place a half-cent sales tax hike on the March 5 ballot to avert new cuts in city services, drawing immediate opposition from critics in and outside city government. Voters would decide the measure, which will boost collections by an estimated $215 million a year, on the same day they choose a new mayor. And there were signs the proposal already is influencing the race, which is expected to focus heavily on resolving the city's chronic budget crisis. Mayoral candidates Jan Perry and Eric Garcetti, both council members, voted against the tax plan Tuesday. City Controller Wendy Greuel, another top mayoral contender, said she also opposed the tax hike, which would apply to millions of everyday transactions, as well as major purchases such as electronics and appliances. . . . Riordan Accepts Police Union's Pension Debate Challenge Los Angeles Times, November 14, 2012 Multimillionaire businessman and former Los Angeles mayor Richard Riordan has accepted a police union's challenge to put his mouth where his money is. Riordan agreed Wednesday to a series of three debates on the merits of a pension revamp initiative that he is trying to get on next year's city election ballot. The measure would create a 401(k)-style retirement plan for newly hired workers instead of the current guaranteed pensions. L.A. Moves Ahead With Plan to Increase Sales Tax Los Angeles Times, November 13, 2012 The Los Angeles City Council agreed to place a half-cent sales tax hike on the March 5 ballot to avert new cuts in city services, drawing immediate opposition from critics in and outside city government. Voters would decide the measure, which will boost collections by an estimated $215 million a year, on the same day they choose a new mayor. And there were signs the proposal already is influencing the race, which is expected to focus heavily on resolving the city's chronic budget crisis. Mayoral candidates Jan Perry and Eric Garcetti, both council members, voted against the tax plan Tuesday. City Controller Wendy Greuel, another top mayoral contender, said she also opposed the tax hike, which would apply to millions of everyday transactions, as well as major purchases such as electronics and appliances. The proposal also came under attack from former Mayor Richard Riordan, a Republican multimillionaire who is promoting his own ballot measure to roll back pension benefits. He accused City Hall leaders of foisting bloated employee retirement costs on consumers. Left-of-center groups complained that council members had caved to real estate interests by dropping plans for a tax on property sales in favor of one that disproportionately hits working class Angelenos. "The process was entirely hijacked by the real estate folks," said Sunyoung Yang, lead organizer for the Bus Riders Union, an advocacy group for low-income residents. A second and final vote on the sales tax ballot measure is set for next week. If approved by voters, the measure would leave Los Angeles with one of the highest tax rates in the state ? 9.5 cents on every dollar of taxable sales. . . . 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John Thielking --- On Wed, 11/14/12, PSL wrote: From: PSL Subject: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 6:17 PM #yiv741480610 p { margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;} #yiv741480610 p, #yiv741480610 li, #yiv741480610 h1, #yiv741480610 h2, #yiv741480610 h3, #yiv741480610 h4, #yiv741480610 h5, #yiv741480610 h6 { color:black;} Home Subscribe Forward this email Contact us Donate The following is a statement from the ANSWER Coalition. The PSL is supporting these actions nationwide. ISRAELIS LAUNCH MAJOR ASSAULT ON GAZA Join Protests Nationwide! Omar jihad Mashrawi, a Palestinian from Al Zeitoun, holding his one-year-old son who just died from his injuries at Al Shifahospital, city of Gaza, on November 14, 2012. (Photo by Anne Paq/Activestills.org) After getting the go-ahead from the Obama administration in a meeting at the White House on Monday, Israel has launched another major assault against the Palestinian people in Gaza. Israeli troops have been assembled at the border and are poised to invade Gaza again. Click here to send a letter to President Obama and elected officials to stop funding Israeli war crimes! In an act designed to provoke a wider war, missiles from Israel assassinated a top Hamas official and killed and wounded many others as its planes and warships have struck more than 20 targets in an ongoing assault. Reports of the bombardment of Gaza are continuing as bodies, including those of children, are being brought to the hospital and morgue. The ANSWER Coalition joins with people all over the world to condemn this act of wanton aggression and murder, and has issued the following statement: ?All U.S. aid to Israel should be ended once and for all. The people of the United States stand against the government that speaks in our name and sends $3 billion of our tax dollars every year so that Israel can kill and colonize the people of Palestine. The fact that the Obama administration was briefed on Monday prior to the attack shows that these latest crimes are a joint U.S.-Israeli operation. The Pentagon immediately announced after the first wave of murderous assaults today that Israel was its 'partner.' Israel may be a partner of U.S. imperialism as it acts as an extension of Pentagon and CIA power in the Middle East. But it is absolutely not the partner of the people of this country who are horrified by its policy of endless war against the Palestinian people and all the peoples of the region.? Click here to send a letter to President Obama and elected officials to stop funding Israeli war crimes! The ANSWER Coalition urges everyone to go into the streets and join and organize a demonstration in your area. Let us know about a protest near you by emailing info at answercoalition.org. List of actions: Albuquerque, NM Friday, Nov. 16, 5pm UNM bookstore (Central and Cornell) Contact: 505-268-2488 or abq at answercoalition.org Baltimore, MD Saturday, Nov. 17, 12noon McKeldin Square Contact: 443-759-9968 or baltimore at answercoalition.org Boca Raton, FL Thursday, Nov. 15, 9am-2pm FAU Breezeway: 777 Glades Rd. Boston, MA Thursday, Nov. 15, 4:30pm Copley Square Chicago, IL Thursday, Nov. 15, 4pm Obama Headquarters, 130 E. Randolph St. Contact: 773-463-0311 Ft. Lauderdale, FL Saturday, Nov. 17, 2pm Broward Federal Courthouse 299 East Broward Blvd. Los Angeles, CA Thursday, Nov. 15, 4pm Israeli Consulate, 11766 Wilshire Blvd. Contact: 213-251-1025 or answerla at answerla.org New Haven, CT Saturday, Nov. 17, 12 noon 141 Church St. (opposite the Green) Contact: 203-903-4480 or ct at answercoalition.org New York, NY Thursday, Nov. 15, 5pm In front of the Israeli Consulate (42nd St. and 2nd Ave.) Philadelphia, PA Friday, Nov. 16, 12 noon Israeli Consulate: 1880 JFK Blvd. San Francisco, CA Thursday, Nov. 15, 5:15pm Consulate General of Israel 456 Montgomery St Ste 1500, San Francisco Friday, Nov. 16, 4pm Israeli Consulate, 456 Montgomery St., SF Contact: 415-821-6545 or sf at answercoalition.org Syracuse, NY Friday, Nov. 16, 12 noon Federal building Corner of Fayette St. and Clinton St. Contact: 315-491-6987 or Syracuse at answercoalition.org Washington, D.C. Friday, Nov. 16, 6pm Rally at the State Department (2201 C Street Northwest), Followed by March to the White House Contact: 202-265-1948 or dc at answercoalition.org Follow us ?Find out more about joining the PSL and apply today. Questions? Comments? Contact us. Update your personal information? Update your email subscriptions or unsubscribe nonprofit software -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Nov 15 11:19:53 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:19:53 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Link to live streaming for Saturday's Conference on Getting Money out of Politics at UCLA Law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50A54059.8010403@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Below please find live streaming information for a "28th amendment" conference at the UCLA law school this Saturday. One of the lead organizers is Lawrence Lessig. Most of the organizations working to overturn Citizens United are cosponsors. (Move To Amend decided, erroneously I think, not to cosponsor.) Feel free to attend any part that you can and post your observations anywhere you think might be appropriate (or send them privately to me). My thoughts on this are summarized in the Wikipedia article on "One Way Forward", where this is connected with the need for more investigative journalism. Best Wishes, Spencer > *From: *Mary Beth Fielder > > *Subject: **Link to live streaming for Saturday's Conference on > Getting Money out of Politics at UCLA Law* > *Date: *November 14, 2012 4:35:04 PM PST > *To: *MB Mary Beth Beth Fielder > > > Hi Everyone, > > Here's the link for the live webcast of this Saturday's Conference on > Getting Money out of Politics at UCLA Law. Please forward to all > interested parties. > http://www.youtube.com/user/tytlive?v=UDzIk5-BY0c > > And if anyone still wants to attend and rub elbows with other like > minded citizens, there's still room in our overflow room. Just RSVP > Today! > > Best Regards, > Mary Beth Fielder > Money Out Voters In Coalition > email: mbfielder at gmail.com > http://moneyoutvotersin.org > --- Szelena Gray szelena at rootstrikers.org #rootstrikers | Rootstrikers.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jims at greens.org Thu Nov 15 16:31:28 2012 From: jims at greens.org (Jim Stauffer) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:31:28 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Ranked Choice Voting in the Bay Area: 3 Points about 2012 RCV Elections In-Reply-To: <2374561178.-745188007@org.orgDB.mail.democracyinaction.org> References: <2374561178.-745188007@org.orgDB.mail.democracyinaction.org> Message-ID: <50A58960.4040000@greens.org> FYI... from Fairvote.com Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Ranked Choice Voting in the Bay Area: 3 Points about 2012 RCV Elections Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:21:39 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Richie FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: November 12 2012 *ANALYSIS OF 2012 RANKED CHOICE VOTING ELECTIONS IN THE BAY AREA: THREE POINTS* Ballots for Tuesday?s ranked choice voting (RCV) elections in four cities in the Bay Area are still being counted, but it is clear that RCV has again worked well. Because of RCV, voters in Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco and San Leandro have been able to elect leaders in a high turnout presidential election instead of having to rely on either low turnout runoffs in December or primaries in June. As a result, a far larger and more representative electorate participated in city elections than these systems? previous voting systems. FairVote will provide updated analysis of the RCV races as the tallies are finalized. Today we focus on three particularly important points emerging from the 2012 elections. */CANDIDATES OF COLOR AGAIN THRIVED IN RCV RACES, EVEN WHEN OUTSPENT/* Racial minorities continue to do very well as candidates in ranked choice voting elections in the Bay Area. In San Francisco, for example, there are 18 offices chosen by RCV, and at least 15 next year will be held by people of color -- potentially 16 if Norman Yee wins the District 7 election. As evidenced by Oakland?s District 3 City Council election, voters of color used the system to clear effect. Three African American candidates ran in District 3, with their backers generally promoting ranking these candidates first, second and third. Although a white candidate led in first choices, Lynette McElhaney will prevail with strong support from voters who had backed Derrick Mohammed and Neisha de Witt as first choices. McElhaney won despite being outspent by Sean Sullivan ? a common pattern in RCV races in which the winning candidate has been particularly active in direct outreach to voters * */*RATE OF VOTER ERROR IS LOW: VOTERS HANDLE RCV BALLOT WELL*/ The results demonstrate that election officials in both Alameda County and San Francisco continue to do an excellent job in ensuring voters know how to fill out an RCV ballot. Even though Berkeley, Oakland, San Francisco and San Leandro have all held RCV elections before, many voters came out to vote for president this year who had never voted locally in an RCV election. Nevertheless, very few voters made an error in indicating a first choice in RCV races. In Alameda County RCV races, for example, more than 99.6% of voters consistently cast valid ballots, including more than 99.9% of voters in San Leandro?s highly competitive District 4 race with four candidates and more than 99.8% of voters in the even more hotly contested District 3 city council in Oakland with six candidates. In San Francisco?s large-field RCV races in District 5 and District 7, 99.5% of voters cast valid ballots for their first choice, and more than three in four voters indicated a valid second choice as well. These rates of invalid ballots are far lower than the invalid ballot rate in the U.S. Senate primary in June 2012 , and lower than the expected rate of error that in the San Francisco school board races. Ballot image reports are not yet available for the Alameda County races, but are available for analysis in the two San Francisco races that require multiple rounds to determine a winner (District 5 and District 7). In both races two-thirds of voters used all three of their rankings and eight in ten voters ranked two ? this despite the fact that many endorsing entities like the /San Francisco Chronicle/ endorsed only one or two candidates. */A TRUE ?INSTANT RUNOFF" IN 2012 : MOST RCV OUTCOMES CLEAR ON ELECTION NIGHT/* Election officials in San Francisco and Alameda County should be applauded for choosing to run the ranked choice voting algorithm on election night. Doing so not only provided faster results, but also clarified that RCV has not been the reason for any past delays in determining outcomes. Indeed the timing for reporting results should be no different than when reporting non-RCV results. Just as with non-RCV elections, most RCV races will be known as soon as the RCV tally is run. If an RCV is close, of course, then the winner may not be decided until absentee and provisional ballots have been completely processed. That of course is no different than in RCV races, such as the California Attorney General race in 2010 that required weeks to decide, in which the race is close and all absentee and provisional ballots must be processed. This year, election night RCV tallies made it instantly clear who was the winner in nearly every race in which there was no majority winner in the first round. In San Francisco?s District 5, for example, London Breed led with less than 30% of first choices, but was a decisive winner over incumbent Christina Olague in the RCV tally ? showing strength in securing second and third choices that propelled her to being a certain winner. Lynette McElhaney was second in first choices in Oakland?s District 3, but was a clear winner after running the RCV tally. By running the tally early, the public and the candidates had more clarity about who is ahead and who is behind, as is normal when election returns are reported. In San Francisco?s District 7, for example, Norman Yee leads in first choices, but is locked in a very tight race in the final round of the RCV tally with F.X Crowley. In San Leandro?s District 2, incumbent Ursula Reed leads in first choices and is in a tight race with challenger Morgan Mack-Rose in the final round of the RCV tally. The only two RCV races where outcomes are in doubt are ones where the election is extremely close. The winner will the finalist who earns the most votes in the ?instant runoff? ? in other words, is preferred to the other finalist by more voters. Current RCV tally leaders Norman Yee and Ursula Reed will win if they keep their leads as the remaining votes are counted, just as would be the case in a close non-RCV race that had uncounted ballots. FairVote is a non-partisan, non-profit organization organized around the principle of respect for every vote and every voice. If you have any questions about this analysis or other aspects of ranked choice voting, please contact FairVote?s executive director Rob Richie (rr at fairvote.org) or FairVote legal fellow Mollie Hailey (mhailey at fairvote.org). We also wanted to draw your attention to resources available on FairVote?s webpage on Bay Area RCV elections (http://www.fairvote.org/ranked-choice-voting-in-bay-area-elections ) and on San Francisco civic leaders? website SF Better Elections (http://www.SFBetterElections.com ). - End - From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Nov 15 21:53:46 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:53:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza In-Reply-To: <1352952937.39498.YahooMailClassic@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1353045226.87159.YahooMailClassic@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> According to the San Jose Peace Center Facebook Page (but not the Peace Center calendar) there is going to be a protest against the bombing of Gaza at Stevens Creek and Winchester in San Jose on Friday, Nov 16, 2012 starting at 4PM.? I will be at that protest, not the one in front of MLK. ? John Thielking --- On Wed, 11/14/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 8:15 PM We are working on getting a protest organized in San Jose too.? Not sure where yet. ? How about starting the Friday Peace Vigil at 4PM this Friday instead of 5PM, in front of the MLK Library.? That way people can see our signs while it is still light out. ? John Thielking --- On Wed, 11/14/12, PSL wrote: From: PSL Subject: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 6:17 PM #yiv767782793 p { margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;} #yiv767782793 p, #yiv767782793 li, #yiv767782793 h1, #yiv767782793 h2, #yiv767782793 h3, #yiv767782793 h4, #yiv767782793 h5, #yiv767782793 h6 { color:black;} Home Subscribe Forward this email Contact us Donate The following is a statement from the ANSWER Coalition. The PSL is supporting these actions nationwide. ISRAELIS LAUNCH MAJOR ASSAULT ON GAZA Join Protests Nationwide! Omar jihad Mashrawi, a Palestinian from Al Zeitoun, holding his one-year-old son who just died from his injuries at Al Shifahospital, city of Gaza, on November 14, 2012. (Photo by Anne Paq/Activestills.org) After getting the go-ahead from the Obama administration in a meeting at the White House on Monday, Israel has launched another major assault against the Palestinian people in Gaza. Israeli troops have been assembled at the border and are poised to invade Gaza again. Click here to send a letter to President Obama and elected officials to stop funding Israeli war crimes! In an act designed to provoke a wider war, missiles from Israel assassinated a top Hamas official and killed and wounded many others as its planes and warships have struck more than 20 targets in an ongoing assault. Reports of the bombardment of Gaza are continuing as bodies, including those of children, are being brought to the hospital and morgue. The ANSWER Coalition joins with people all over the world to condemn this act of wanton aggression and murder, and has issued the following statement: ?All U.S. aid to Israel should be ended once and for all. The people of the United States stand against the government that speaks in our name and sends $3 billion of our tax dollars every year so that Israel can kill and colonize the people of Palestine. The fact that the Obama administration was briefed on Monday prior to the attack shows that these latest crimes are a joint U.S.-Israeli operation. The Pentagon immediately announced after the first wave of murderous assaults today that Israel was its 'partner.' Israel may be a partner of U.S. imperialism as it acts as an extension of Pentagon and CIA power in the Middle East. But it is absolutely not the partner of the people of this country who are horrified by its policy of endless war against the Palestinian people and all the peoples of the region.? Click here to send a letter to President Obama and elected officials to stop funding Israeli war crimes! The ANSWER Coalition urges everyone to go into the streets and join and organize a demonstration in your area. Let us know about a protest near you by emailing info at answercoalition.org. List of actions: Albuquerque, NM Friday, Nov. 16, 5pm UNM bookstore (Central and Cornell) Contact: 505-268-2488 or abq at answercoalition.org Baltimore, MD Saturday, Nov. 17, 12noon McKeldin Square Contact: 443-759-9968 or baltimore at answercoalition.org Boca Raton, FL Thursday, Nov. 15, 9am-2pm FAU Breezeway: 777 Glades Rd. Boston, MA Thursday, Nov. 15, 4:30pm Copley Square Chicago, IL Thursday, Nov. 15, 4pm Obama Headquarters, 130 E. Randolph St. Contact: 773-463-0311 Ft. Lauderdale, FL Saturday, Nov. 17, 2pm Broward Federal Courthouse 299 East Broward Blvd. Los Angeles, CA Thursday, Nov. 15, 4pm Israeli Consulate, 11766 Wilshire Blvd. Contact: 213-251-1025 or answerla at answerla.org New Haven, CT Saturday, Nov. 17, 12 noon 141 Church St. (opposite the Green) Contact: 203-903-4480 or ct at answercoalition.org New York, NY Thursday, Nov. 15, 5pm In front of the Israeli Consulate (42nd St. and 2nd Ave.) Philadelphia, PA Friday, Nov. 16, 12 noon Israeli Consulate: 1880 JFK Blvd. San Francisco, CA Thursday, Nov. 15, 5:15pm Consulate General of Israel 456 Montgomery St Ste 1500, San Francisco Friday, Nov. 16, 4pm Israeli Consulate, 456 Montgomery St., SF Contact: 415-821-6545 or sf at answercoalition.org Syracuse, NY Friday, Nov. 16, 12 noon Federal building Corner of Fayette St. and Clinton St. Contact: 315-491-6987 or Syracuse at answercoalition.org Washington, D.C. Friday, Nov. 16, 6pm Rally at the State Department (2201 C Street Northwest), Followed by March to the White House Contact: 202-265-1948 or dc at answercoalition.org Follow us ?Find out more about joining the PSL and apply today. Questions? Comments? Contact us. Update your personal information? Update your email subscriptions or unsubscribe nonprofit software -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 16 09:59:13 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:59:13 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling Message-ID: <50A67EF1.8090302@sbcglobal.net> tablers wanted and needed at Junior State in the Santa Clara Marriott from 2 pm to 5 pm tomorrow, Saturday the 17-th. Thus far as far as I know Caroline is the only confirmed tabler for tomorrow. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Nov 16 10:32:15 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:32:15 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling In-Reply-To: <50A67EF1.8090302@sbcglobal.net> References: <50A67EF1.8090302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: This is a great event, a gas! The kids are all dressed up in their best and so excited and optimistic! It's really easy to impress upon them that they're more likely to achieve actual candidacy with the Greens than with the mainstream parties, and it's also a great chance to provide them with new information and gently encourage them to question the assumptions upon which their political philosophies are based. > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 09:59:13 -0800 > From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling > > tablers wanted and needed at Junior State in the Santa Clara > Marriott from 2 pm to 5 pm tomorrow, Saturday the 17-th. > > Thus far as far as I know Caroline is the only confirmed tabler for > tomorrow. > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Fri Nov 16 11:03:21 2012 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:03:21 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling In-Reply-To: <50A67EF1.8090302@sbcglobal.net> References: <50A67EF1.8090302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <50A68DF9.3050201@aceweb.com> On 11/16/2012 09:59 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > tablers wanted and needed at Junior State in the Santa Clara > Marriott from 2 pm to 5 pm tomorrow, Saturday the 17-th. > > Thus far as far as I know Caroline is the only confirmed tabler for > tomorrow. > I plan to be there, but maybe not at 2 PM sharp. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org I've been given a new copy of The Most Dangerous Book in the World. The Kiwi Green pin I got in Baltimore is now on a Arizona quarter. From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Nov 16 11:00:54 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:00:54 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling--Dangerous Book In-Reply-To: <50A68DF9.3050201@aceweb.com> References: <50A67EF1.8090302@sbcglobal.net>,<50A68DF9.3050201@aceweb.com> Message-ID: I'm really interested in the semiotics of 9/11 and plan to read that book soon. I'll wait 'til after 12/25/12 to buy it 'cause I figure the book will be available really cheap then. :>) > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:03:21 -0800 > From: tnharter at aceweb.com > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling > > On 11/16/2012 09:59 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > > tablers wanted and needed at Junior State in the Santa Clara > > Marriott from 2 pm to 5 pm tomorrow, Saturday the 17-th. > > > > Thus far as far as I know Caroline is the only confirmed tabler for > > tomorrow. > > > I plan to be there, but maybe not at 2 PM sharp. > > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > I've been given a new copy of The Most Dangerous Book in the World. > The Kiwi Green pin I got in Baltimore is now on a Arizona quarter. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Fri Nov 16 13:31:27 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:31:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling In-Reply-To: <50A67EF1.8090302@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1353101487.63544.YahooMailClassic@web111105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I already arranged to have Caroline pick me up from my place to take me to table at Jr State.? We are all set, but the more the merrier. ? John Thielking --- On Fri, 11/16/12, Jim Doyle wrote: From: Jim Doyle Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Junior state tabling To: "sosfbay discussion group" Date: Friday, November 16, 2012, 9:59 AM tablers wanted and needed at Junior State in the Santa Clara Marriott from 2 pm to 5 pm tomorrow, Saturday the 17-th. Thus far as far as I know Caroline is the only confirmed tabler for tomorrow. _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Fri Nov 16 20:47:12 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:47:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza In-Reply-To: <1353045226.87159.YahooMailClassic@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1353127632.99127.YahooMailClassic@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Ch2 news took some footage of the 50-100 people who showed up at Stevens Creek and Winchester today.? Look for it on the 10PM news. ? John Thielking --- On Thu, 11/15/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Cc: svtriathlete at hotmail.com, palestineis at dslextreme.com Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 9:53 PM According to the San Jose Peace Center Facebook Page (but not the Peace Center calendar) there is going to be a protest against the bombing of Gaza at Stevens Creek and Winchester in San Jose on Friday, Nov 16, 2012 starting at 4PM.? I will be at that protest, not the one in front of MLK. ? John Thielking --- On Wed, 11/14/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 8:15 PM We are working on getting a protest organized in San Jose too.? Not sure where yet. ? How about starting the Friday Peace Vigil at 4PM this Friday instead of 5PM, in front of the MLK Library.? That way people can see our signs while it is still light out. ? John Thielking --- On Wed, 11/14/12, PSL wrote: From: PSL Subject: Emergency Protests: Stop Israel's War Against Gaza To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2012, 6:17 PM #yiv1093955949 p { margin-top:1em;margin-bottom:1em;} #yiv1093955949 p, #yiv1093955949 li, #yiv1093955949 h1, #yiv1093955949 h2, #yiv1093955949 h3, #yiv1093955949 h4, #yiv1093955949 h5, #yiv1093955949 h6 { color:black;} Home Subscribe Forward this email Contact us Donate The following is a statement from the ANSWER Coalition. The PSL is supporting these actions nationwide. ISRAELIS LAUNCH MAJOR ASSAULT ON GAZA Join Protests Nationwide! Omar jihad Mashrawi, a Palestinian from Al Zeitoun, holding his one-year-old son who just died from his injuries at Al Shifahospital, city of Gaza, on November 14, 2012. (Photo by Anne Paq/Activestills.org) After getting the go-ahead from the Obama administration in a meeting at the White House on Monday, Israel has launched another major assault against the Palestinian people in Gaza. Israeli troops have been assembled at the border and are poised to invade Gaza again. Click here to send a letter to President Obama and elected officials to stop funding Israeli war crimes! In an act designed to provoke a wider war, missiles from Israel assassinated a top Hamas official and killed and wounded many others as its planes and warships have struck more than 20 targets in an ongoing assault. Reports of the bombardment of Gaza are continuing as bodies, including those of children, are being brought to the hospital and morgue. The ANSWER Coalition joins with people all over the world to condemn this act of wanton aggression and murder, and has issued the following statement: ?All U.S. aid to Israel should be ended once and for all. The people of the United States stand against the government that speaks in our name and sends $3 billion of our tax dollars every year so that Israel can kill and colonize the people of Palestine. The fact that the Obama administration was briefed on Monday prior to the attack shows that these latest crimes are a joint U.S.-Israeli operation. The Pentagon immediately announced after the first wave of murderous assaults today that Israel was its 'partner.' Israel may be a partner of U.S. imperialism as it acts as an extension of Pentagon and CIA power in the Middle East. But it is absolutely not the partner of the people of this country who are horrified by its policy of endless war against the Palestinian people and all the peoples of the region.? Click here to send a letter to President Obama and elected officials to stop funding Israeli war crimes! The ANSWER Coalition urges everyone to go into the streets and join and organize a demonstration in your area. Let us know about a protest near you by emailing info at answercoalition.org. List of actions: Albuquerque, NM Friday, Nov. 16, 5pm UNM bookstore (Central and Cornell) Contact: 505-268-2488 or abq at answercoalition.org Baltimore, MD Saturday, Nov. 17, 12noon McKeldin Square Contact: 443-759-9968 or baltimore at answercoalition.org Boca Raton, FL Thursday, Nov. 15, 9am-2pm FAU Breezeway: 777 Glades Rd. Boston, MA Thursday, Nov. 15, 4:30pm Copley Square Chicago, IL Thursday, Nov. 15, 4pm Obama Headquarters, 130 E. Randolph St. Contact: 773-463-0311 Ft. Lauderdale, FL Saturday, Nov. 17, 2pm Broward Federal Courthouse 299 East Broward Blvd. Los Angeles, CA Thursday, Nov. 15, 4pm Israeli Consulate, 11766 Wilshire Blvd. Contact: 213-251-1025 or answerla at answerla.org New Haven, CT Saturday, Nov. 17, 12 noon 141 Church St. (opposite the Green) Contact: 203-903-4480 or ct at answercoalition.org New York, NY Thursday, Nov. 15, 5pm In front of the Israeli Consulate (42nd St. and 2nd Ave.) Philadelphia, PA Friday, Nov. 16, 12 noon Israeli Consulate: 1880 JFK Blvd. San Francisco, CA Thursday, Nov. 15, 5:15pm Consulate General of Israel 456 Montgomery St Ste 1500, San Francisco Friday, Nov. 16, 4pm Israeli Consulate, 456 Montgomery St., SF Contact: 415-821-6545 or sf at answercoalition.org Syracuse, NY Friday, Nov. 16, 12 noon Federal building Corner of Fayette St. and Clinton St. Contact: 315-491-6987 or Syracuse at answercoalition.org Washington, D.C. Friday, Nov. 16, 6pm Rally at the State Department (2201 C Street Northwest), Followed by March to the White House Contact: 202-265-1948 or dc at answercoalition.org Follow us ?Find out more about joining the PSL and apply today. Questions? Comments? Contact us. Update your personal information? Update your email subscriptions or unsubscribe nonprofit software -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sat Nov 17 10:56:00 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:56:00 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notes from Stanford Panel on Drones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.digitaljournal.com/blog/19263 Panel Discussion at Stanford 9 Nov. 2012 A recent report from researchers at Stanford and NYU schools of law, "Living Under Drones: Death, Injury and Trauma to Civilians From US Drone Practices in Pakistan", is based on interviews with victims and witnesses of drone activity, Pakistani government officials, and many others. http://livingunderdrones.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Stanford_NYU_LIVING_UNDER_DRONES.pdf Omar Shakir, one of the report's authors, says the report's count of 500-to-800 civilians killed is probably an underestimate. Effects on those on the ground: 1. medical stress, lack of focus in daily life 2. fear to congregate, to attend funerals; "double-tap" strikes hit rescue workers Christof Heyns, UN Special Rapporteur, says the drone strikes may be war crimes Intel is questionable. That 80% of prisoners at Guant?namo were released and 92% were never charged shows the poor quality of Intel. How much better can the "kill list" Intel be? Studies show that only 2% of the drone victims are high-level targets. 74% of Pakistanis consider the US an enemy. Deputy National Security Advisor John Brennan claimed [in 2011] there had been no civilian casualties. Bob Woodward tells us Brennan knew on day three [of Obama's term, in 2009] of civilian deaths. The perps call civilian casualties "bug splat". Dr. Shahzad Bashir At the time the schoolgirl Malala Yousafzai's shooting by Taliban was in the headlines, two American killings of Afghan children within two days of that incident got little comment in the press. We know Malala Yousafzai's name, but the names of the 16 civilians Sgt. Robert Taylor shot we don't know. Disproportionality is an issue, and drone pilots' insulation from danger, the doubts about the Intel, abuses of the law. Medea Benjamin Obama said Afghanistan was a good war. Now the majority of Americans say it's not worth fighting. 6 months ago 82% of Americans were in favor of drones. That's changing rapidly. Attorney General Eric Holder says there's no right to judicial process; executive deliberation constitutes due process. No accountability, no transparency. References cited: Dr. Bashir: Tirman, The Deaths of Others ---6 to 7 million dead in conflicts from Korea to Iraq. Americans are indifferent to civilian casualties. Joy Gordon, Invisible War -- 1 million dead in Iraq. Omar Shakir: 2010 "Report of the Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, Philip Alston" http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/world/03drones.htm http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/14session/A.HRC.14.24.Add6.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Nov 17 18:02:54 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 18:02:54 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CNN in favor of carbon tax? In-Reply-To: <50A7FF53.5040903@earthlink.net> References: <50A7FF53.5040903@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50A841CE.8060706@earthlink.net> FYI, I just received an email from someone who said he saw an opinion piece on the CNN website in favor of a carbon tax. He provided this link: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/16/opinion/jones-carbon-tax/index.html The authors are Van Jones and Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins. "A carbon tax is really that rarest of ideas, a win-win-win solution that solves multiple problems at once." (climate change, federal debt, jobs) Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Nov 18 12:09:15 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:09:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Today's battle Message-ID: <1353269355.70216.YahooMailRC@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Bill McKibben - 350.org To: Caroline Yacoub Sent: Sun, November 18, 2012 8:41:36 AM Subject: Today's battle Friends: It?s been an amazing couple of weeks. I?ve been on the road with the Do the Math tour since November 7th, and I can?t remember the last time I was so tired?or so inspired by this movement. One of the things I?m saying a lot on this tour: we can?t win the larger fight one pipeline at a time. One of the other things I find myself saying a lot: join us in Washington to pick up the fight against Keystone XL. Because this battle over this pipeline?although alone not sufficient to counter the power of the fossil fuel industry?is necessary. So today I?m in Washington DC to fight this thing. After this afternoon?s Do the Math tour stop, we?re going to get on our feet, take to the streets, and raise our voices against KXL. Please stand with us today, wherever you are: 350.org/pledge Why this pipeline? Because the tar sands are unethical. Because this pipeline is the fuse to the largest carbon bomb on the planet. Because it endangers countless communities, from Canada to the Gulf Coast. And because this is a fight we can win. Keystone XL is not a done deal. President Obama alone has the power to approve or deny the project?s permit, and a majority of Americans now think he should prioritize clean energy and climate action. This is the purest, starkest test of whether or not the President is serious about tackling climate change in his second term. This is our moment to ask that he stop this pipeline with his pen. Our movement is powerful and growing. Together, we can stop Keystone XL. Will you join us? Onward as ever, Bill P.S. Here?s a photo of the crowd in Philly last night. Isn?t that a beautiful thing? ________________________________ 350.org is building a global movement to solve the climate crisis. Connect with us on Facebook and Twitter, and sign up for email alerts. You can help power our work by getting involved locally, sharing your story, and donating here.? To stop receiving emails from 350.org, click here. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Sun Nov 18 19:41:22 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: MON DEMO - STOP ISRAEL'S ASSAULT ON GAZA! Message-ID: <1353296482.86042.YahooMailClassic@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> There is also a regular Monday protest in support of the Palestinians at San Carlos and Market st in San Jose, CA, USA.? This week's protest will run from 4:30PM to 6PM. ? John Thielking --- On Sun, 11/18/12, Revolution Books wrote: From: Revolution Books Subject: MON DEMO - STOP ISRAEL'S ASSAULT ON GAZA! To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com Date: Sunday, November 18, 2012, 7:26 PM R E V O L U T I O N?? B O O K S 2425 Channing Way at Telegraph Ave, Berkeley? 510-848-1196 Upcoming Events ? ?Emergency Demo Monday: STOP Israel's Assault on Gaza DEMONSTRATE! Monday, November 19, 4pm Israeli Consulate, 456 Montgomery St., San Francisco, CA STOP the War on Gaza! Stand Against the US Support of Israel! Support the People of Palestine! ? Revolution Books strongly urges everyone to stand against this attack and endorses this protest organized by activists in the Bay Area Arab community, allies and supporters of Palestine. Circulate this *new article* just posted at revcom.us: Israel's Murderous Assault on the People in Gaza...And the Need to Oppose These Crimes NOW! by Alan Goodman Also, Wednesday, Nov. 21 at 7pm at Revolution Books: Emergency Meeting on Gaza Join us to discuss the article: Israel's Murderous Assault on the People in Gaza... And the Need to Oppose These Crimes NOW! and why and how people in this country need to speak out forcefully against this outrage! There is a basic question of right and wrong here: Israel's attack on the people of Gaza is essentially a mass slaughter of civilians in the service of reactionary aims, to enforce and impose an exploitative and oppressive world order. Nobody with a basic sense of justice should be silently complicit in that! Israel's assaults on Gaza are taking place under cover of darkness-literally. Israeli missiles and bombs have, at this writing, knocked out power in Gaza, leaving people, hospitals, homes, and emergency responders without light. What few reports from Gaza make it into mainstream media coverage portray a reporter standing in pitch dark, describing sonic booms, earth-shaking bombs, and flames erupting high into the sky. The Israeli assault has already killed elderly people, children, and many, many other people who could not possibly be considered "combatants" in any military activity originating in Gaza. One of those killed by the Israelis was the 11-month-old son of Jihad Misharawi, a BBC journalist who lives in Gaza. An Israeli missile hit Misharawi's home on November 14, early in the assault, killing both his son and sister-in-law. When the Israeli missile hit Misharawi's home, there was no military activity observed in his residential neighborhood. After the Israeli missile hit Misharawi's house, his BBC editor tweeted, "if Israel can kill a man riding on a moving motorbike (as they did last month) how did Jihad's son get killed." This murder of the 11-month-old child and the sister-in-law of a BBC journalist is part of a long record of Israeli (and U.S.) killings and terror against even mainstream reporters to keep the world from seeing what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.? [read entire article here] For important background information, read the special issue of Revolution:? "The Case of Israel." For more background on Palestine/Israel, check out the extensive Middle East section at Revolution Books. For those who are repelled by calls to support either U.S. imperialism or Islamic fundamentalism, of particular importance is "Bringing Forward Another Way" by Bob Avakian. EVERY FRIDAY Come by to Pick-Up the New Issue of REVOLUTION newspaper.? Read It!? Share It! Spread It! Check out articles from the latest issue of Revolution and join us Friday every week at 7pm for a discussion of these articles and to pick up issue(s) of this crucial paper. 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Dr. Sharat Lin will share the stage with at least one other speaker to talk about the current situation regarding war and peace in and with Iran, Syria and Palestine/Israel.? At least 1/2 hr will be devoted to Q&A.? Donations are accepted but are?not required to attend the event. ? This event is co-sponsored by www.peacemovies.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Nov 19 20:24:50 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:24:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] List of Walmart Strikes For Black Friday and Obscenedian Thursday In-Reply-To: <1353298364.75839.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1353385490.44676.YahooMailClassic@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Here is a list of Walmart Strikes planned for Nov 22 and Nov 23rd, 2012 in the South Bay ? http://www.corporateactionnetwork.org/campaigns/black-friday/events?zipcode=95136 ? Note that the locations listed with TBD for the time have not yet been organized by anyone yet, so I recommend going to ones that have a specific time listed.? The South Bay Labor Council is doing one at the 777 Story Rd, San Jose, CA location at 12PM Nov 23rd 2012. ? Good luck! ? John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Nov 20 01:10:14 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:10:14 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Climate Change Affinity Groups In-Reply-To: <50AB4739.7080900@earthlink.net> References: <50AB4739.7080900@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50AB48F6.8090202@earthlink.net> FYI, From Yes Magazine: "Want to Fight Climate Change? Start by Turning to Your Neighbors" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/11/18-1 The author says he has seen success with affinity groups. "There are so many of us concerned climate realists out there." This article reminds me of a cartoon I really like: http://www.asni.net/images/nl/nl48_c1.jpg Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Nov 13 11:23:23 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:23:23 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] THURSDAY 12:50 pm - Stopping SOPA: Copyright, Free Speech, Popular Constitutionalism In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: During late 2011 and January 2012, millions of people protested the passage of the controversial copyright bill, the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), in Congress. The protests culminated in the largest online protest in the history of the Internet, with web giant Wikipedia and thousands of other websites going black in a day of self-censorship. In a few short months, the protesters achieved something remarkable: they defeated money, politicians, Hollywood, and the copyright lobby, all in the name of a ?free and open Internet.? This talk with Professor Edward Lee explains these grassroots movements as a form of popular constitutionalism. Courts didn't define speech rights. People did. And, in the end, it was the people's view of free speech that carried the day. http://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/events/cis-speaker-series-stopping-sopa-copyright-free-speech-and-popular-constitutionalism When: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:50pm - 2:00pm Stanford Law School - Room 280B 559 Nathan Abbott Way, Stanford, CA 94305 Free and open to the public. RSVP for this Free Event Today: http://enews.law.stanford.edu/t/r-l-kkutjhl-jlhlhjurc-t/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Yacoub To: sosfbay-discuss Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 9:32 pm Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Black Friday If, like me, you are going to forego the "pleasures" of shopping on Black Friday in favor of shopping small on Saturday, leaving you with nothing to do on Friday, you might want to go to the Walmart at 777 Story Rd. and do a little solidarity with the workers on the sidewalk. It wouldn't hurt to wear your Green Party shirt and buttons. A whole bunch of our coalition members will be there. If you live closer to another Walmart, feel free to picket that one. Caroline _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you live closer to > another Walmart, feel free to picket that one. > Caroline > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org I've been given a new copy of The Most Dangerous Book in the World. The Kiwi Green pin I got in Baltimore is now on a Arizona quarter. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Nov 21 08:52:54 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:52:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] regiftables Message-ID: <1353516774.73088.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Anyone who has "regiftable" items and no one to regift them to, take them, unwrapped, to the Low Income Self Help Center on Wednesday, Thursdays, Fridays. 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This immediately precedes the beginning of 2014 candidate filing period at the end of December, giving the GPCA an opportunity to review 2014 election strategy, planning and potential candidates for statewide constitutional office. The General Assembly is the primary decision-making body of the Green Party of California (GPCA) and consists of delegates from each active county organization recognized by the GPCA. The General Assembly generally meets twice a year, once in Northern California and once in Southern California. Gatherings are non-delegated GPCA meetings, combining issues, organizing, committee and working group breakout sessions and getting to know each other. Here is a list of planning resources to help put on a state meeting . Financial support is provided in the annual GPCA budget. Host county parties arranges for the site, food and volunteers and work with the state meeting committee on finances. Please contact the Agenda Committee if your county is interested. We look forward to meeting with you. Sincerely Sanda Everette, Alex Shantz, Co-coordinators GPCA Coordinating Committee From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Wed Nov 21 17:34:22 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:34:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] A Wet Paper Tiger -- Opt Out Of Overdraft Protection Is Message-ID: <1353548062.26671.YahooMailClassic@web122902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> The following is the thread of my discussion on Occupy Santa Cruz's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/occupysantacruz/345723425525057/?comment_id=345729452191121¬if_t=group_comment ? John Thielking ? ? John Thielking Today I found out that the opt out of overdraft protection clause in my banking contract with Chase means little or nothing when it comes to actually avoiding overdrafts and overdraft fees. Thinking that my opting out of overdraft protection would prevent my checking account from being debited for charges that I didn't have the money to cover last week, I let my checking account balance go down to only $8. This week, after getting my SSDI payment from Uncle Sam, I checked my checking account balance and then my ATM statement and found that one ACH charge and one recurring debit card charge had resulted in overdrafts and overdraft fees of $34 per overdraft. I talked to an associate at a Chase branch about this and she reversed the overdraft fees since I had not been informed that overdraf ts were still possible after opting out of overdraft protection. She informed me that ACH charges (such as paypal payments) will always go through and could result in overdrafts. Debit card charges are not supposed to go through without overdraft protection. But when I pointed out that the recurring debit card charge had gone through anyway all she could say was "contact the company making the debit and make sure they only have your debit card info and not your checking account number and routing number". What a load of bs. The company in question only has my debit card info and she should know that since the ATM statement said "recurring debit card charge". If I ever start saving aside some extra cash I will be sure to open an account at a credit union. But I figure since Chase is losing money having me as a customer, I can do more damage to them by continuing to have my SSDI and paypal account transactions occur through them and this saves me the trouble of rerouting those payments. Like ? ?Unfollow Post ? 40 minutes ago Thomas Equality Leavitt Overdrafts work the same way at a credit union. Some kind of regulatory nonsense. 11 minutes ago via mobile ? Like John Thielking I'm pointing this out because as I recall there was a big fight between consumers and banks to avoid overdraft fees by opting out of overdraft protection and requiring banks to make you opt in in order to get overdraft protection. It turns out that the "solution" was just another paper tiger, with less strength than a sheet of wet toilet paper... 8 minutes ago ? Like Thomas Equality Leavitt Only applies to a limited subset of fees, yes. Was very annoyed when I found out myself. Mostly affects paper checks, which almost no one uses any more... and of course, that just means they bounce and you get fees for that. can't win 3 minutes ago via mobile ? Like Thomas Equality Leavitt Not like they need to charge you these fees... every account should come with a $100 no fee credit line that is only accessible if you overdraft. Charge interest of prime plus 20%, fine. ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When news broke about the bill, Senator Leahy was quick to denounce the new version and stated publicly that he doesn't support these loopholes that would allow the government to read our emails without a warrant, but we have to ensure that this last-minute push by anti-privacy forces doesn't gain any traction at all. Tell the Senate Judiciary Committee: Vote NO on any bill before the Judiciary Committee that allows government agencies to read my email without a warrant. http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/leahy_warrantless_searches/?r_by=50854-4219976-Z0fsyVx&rc=paste1 ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sat Nov 24 09:54:10 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:54:10 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Thanksgiving in Curry County, OR Message-ID: Curry Fair Friends, a non-profit group, puts on a free thanksgiving buffet in a hall at the county fairgrounds in Gold Beach. People can make a financial contribution if they wish. People can volunteer if they wish. (I washed pots.) There are candles on the table, tablecloths, china, silverware, glass goblets. There are lots of paying customers, it avoids the the whole soup kitchen stigma, and a good time is had by all. It's a great community-builder. The first year they served a hundred, the second year over two hundred, and this third year three hundred and sixty-two were served. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Sat Nov 24 21:58:58 2012 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:58:58 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tuesday, Nov. 27, 9 AM: Hearing in Merritt v Mozillo Message-ID: <50B1B3A2.2050503@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: Another hearing is scheduled for next Tuesday, Nov. 27, 9 AM, Santa Clara County Superior Court, Dept. 9, Judge Mark Pierce, 191 North First Street, San Jose, CA in the case of Merritt v Mozillo, et al. (Case Number 1-09-CV-159993). Countrywide (formerly led by Angelo Mozilo) and Bank of America asked the court to enforce two loan modification agreements signed by the Merritts on Feb. 24, 2009. The Merritts claim that (1) the loan modifications in question are not valid, (2) the statue of limitations has to file such enforcement requests has long passed, and (3) Countrywide and Bank of America sold the loan to Bear Sterns and do not have standing to pursue enforcement of the loan. Your presence as an observer in the court could help ensure a fair hearing for David and Salma Merritt. For more information, see "Merritt v Mozilo" at "occupy.pbworks.com" (http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/57677826/Merritt%20v%20Countrywide). Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Sun Nov 25 13:25:21 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:25:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request For Agenda Items For Nov 29th, 2012 GPSCC GA Meeting Message-ID: <1353878721.15030.YahooMailClassic@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi Folks, ? It is that time again.? Drag yourself out of bed or armchair and over to your machine and let me know what you would like to see on the agenda for this month's Green Party Of Santa Clara County General Assembly meeting. Please try to get all items to pagesincolor at yahoo.com by sometime Tuesday night this week. Thanks! ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This presentation included a list of action items for everyone concerned about the quality of policing in San Jos?. The following is my summary: 1. The City is now working to recruit a replacement for Police Chief Moore, retiring Jan. 30, 2013. The City is holding public hearings to receive "community input regarding the ideal qualities that the City Manager should consider in evaluating candidates for this position. Community input meetings have been scheduled at the following locations from 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m." Meetings are scheduled for Nov. 26, 28, and Dec. 3 and 10; for locations check "http://www.sanjoseca.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=142". 2. Judge Cordell is asking for public support to have all police officers wear cameras the create a record of everything they do on duty. Chief Moore has found money for half of the $1.5 million this would require, and he wants the City Council to provide the other half. District Attorney Rosen is preparing a protocol for how these records would be handled. I believe it would dramatically increase the rate of convictions for crimes, especially those committed in the presence of an officer, while dramatically reducing the complaints of officer misconduct. Judge Cordell said the older officers hate this idea, and the younger officers love it. An op ed piece she wrote on this appeared in the Mercury News Dec. 20, 2011 but has since expired from their web site. (If you want a scanned image of that article, please let me know.) People in San Jos? are encouraged to write their City Council representative asking about this. I just received a reply from Pierluigi Oliverio saying, "Yes it is moving forward as we can afford to buy them." I would expect that more inquiries about this would likely make it easier for them to find the money. 3. Judge Cordell said that anyone can issue a complaint to the Independent Police Auditor. She said her office had recently received a complaint from someone in India who knows people here who had knowledge of events about which there were questions of police misconduct. If you see a questionable incident regarding the police in San Jos?, you are encouraged to file a complaint with her office, "www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?nid=200", ind_pol_aud at sanjoseca.gov, (408) 794-6226. Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Nov 26 19:01:34 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:01:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] =?iso-8859-1?q?San_Jos=E9_Police=3F?= In-Reply-To: <50B429BD.2030802@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1353985294.7636.YahooMailClassic@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> One quality that I'm looking for in a new police chief: He/She hates drones. ? John Thielking --- On Mon, 11/26/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] San Jos? Police? To: "GPSCC" Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 6:47 PM Hello, All: ? ? ???LaDoris Cordell, retired judge and current Independent Police Auditor for the City of San Jos? spoke today at the monthly meeting of the Coalition for Justice and Accountability, organized in part by Richard Konda of the Asian Law Alliance (www.asianlawalliance.org;? for some of their previous activities, see "www.sjbeez.org/special/coalition-for-justice-and-accountability-forums"). ? ? ???This presentation included a list of action items for everyone concerned about the quality of policing in San Jos?.? The following is my summary: ? ? ? ? ? ???1.? The City is now working to recruit a replacement for Police Chief Moore, retiring Jan. 30, 2013.? The City is holding public hearings to receive "community input regarding the ideal qualities that the City Manager should consider in evaluating candidates for this position. Community input meetings have been scheduled at the following locations from 6:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m." Meetings are scheduled for Nov. 26, 28, and Dec. 3 and 10;? for locations check "http://www.sanjoseca.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=142". ? ? ? ? ? ???2.? Judge Cordell is asking for public support to have all police officers wear cameras the create a record of everything they do on duty.? Chief Moore has found money for half of the $1.5 million this would require, and he wants the City Council to provide the other half.? District Attorney Rosen is preparing a protocol for how these records would be handled.? I believe it would dramatically increase the rate of convictions for crimes, especially those committed in the presence of an officer, while dramatically reducing the complaints of officer misconduct.? Judge Cordell said the older officers hate this idea, and the younger officers love it.? An op ed piece she wrote on this appeared in the Mercury News Dec. 20, 2011 but has since expired from their web site.? (If you want a scanned image of that article, please let me know.)? People in San Jos? are encouraged to write their City Council representative asking about this.? I just received a reply from Pierluigi Oliverio saying, "Yes it is moving forward as we can afford to buy them."? I would expect that more inquiries about this would likely make it easier for them to find the money. ? ? ? ? ? ???3.? Judge Cordell said that anyone can issue a complaint to the Independent Police Auditor.? She said her office had recently received a complaint from someone in India who knows people here who had knowledge of events about which there were questions of police misconduct.? If you see a questionable incident regarding the police in San Jos?, you are encouraged to file a complaint with her office, "www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?nid=200", ind_pol_aud at sanjoseca.gov, (408) 794-6226. ? ? ???Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Nov 26 19:16:19 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:16:19 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] =?iso-8859-1?q?San_Jos=E9_Police=3F?= In-Reply-To: <1353985294.7636.YahooMailClassic@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1353985294.7636.YahooMailClassic@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50B43083.80600@prodsyse.com> Go to the web site mentioned below, fill out the survey they have there, AND organize as many people as you can to deliver that message in as many ways as you can to the city council, especially via their questionnaire and community meetings processes. To your drones question, I would add (1) cameras on all police officers and vehicles (including any drones), and (2) concern about Tasers. Spencer On 11/26/2012 7:01 PM, John Thielking wrote: > One quality that I'm looking for in a new police chief: He/She hates > drones. > John Thielking > > --- On *Mon, 11/26/12, Spencer Graves //* > wrote: > > > From: Spencer Graves > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] San Jos? Police? > To: "GPSCC" > Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 6:47 PM > > Hello, All: > > > LaDoris Cordell, retired judge and current Independent > Police Auditor for the City of San Jos? spoke today at the monthly > meeting of the Coalition for Justice and Accountability, organized > in part by Richard Konda of the Asian Law Alliance > (www.asianlawalliance.org; for some of their previous activities, > see > "www.sjbeez.org/special/coalition-for-justice-and-accountability-forums"). > > > This presentation included a list of action items for > everyone concerned about the quality of policing in San Jos?. The > following is my summary: > > > 1. The City is now working to recruit a replacement > for Police Chief Moore, retiring Jan. 30, 2013. The City is > holding public hearings to receive "community input regarding the > ideal qualities that the City Manager should consider in > evaluating candidates for this position. Community input meetings > have been scheduled at the following locations from 6:30 p.m. to > 8:00 p.m." Meetings are scheduled for Nov. 26, 28, and Dec. 3 and > 10; for locations check > "http://www.sanjoseca.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=142". > > > 2. Judge Cordell is asking for public support to > have all police officers wear cameras the create a record of > everything they do on duty. Chief Moore has found money for half > of the $1.5 million this would require, and he wants the City > Council to provide the other half. District Attorney Rosen is > preparing a protocol for how these records would be handled. I > believe it would dramatically increase the rate of convictions for > crimes, especially those committed in the presence of an officer, > while dramatically reducing the complaints of officer misconduct. > Judge Cordell said the older officers hate this idea, and the > younger officers love it. An op ed piece she wrote on this > appeared in the Mercury News Dec. 20, 2011 but has since expired > from their web site. (If you want a scanned image of that > article, please let me know.) People in San Jos? are encouraged > to write their City Council representative asking about this. I > just received a reply from Pierluigi Oliverio saying, "Yes it is > moving forward as we can afford to buy them." I would expect that > more inquiries about this would likely make it easier for them to > find the money. > > > 3. Judge Cordell said that anyone can issue a > complaint to the Independent Police Auditor. She said her office > had recently received a complaint from someone in India who knows > people here who had knowledge of events about which there were > questions of police misconduct. If you see a questionable > incident regarding the police in San Jos?, you are encouraged to > file a complaint with her office, > "www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?nid=200", ind_pol_aud at sanjoseca.gov > , > (408) 794-6226. > > > Spencer > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Nov 26 19:33:42 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:33:42 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items In-Reply-To: <50B40B53.0@sbcglobal.net> References: <50B40B53.0@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <50B43496.9010405@prodsyse.com> On 11/26/2012 4:37 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > As a part of the treasurer's report: 5 min > paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS > > possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min > > AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 announcement > African American Community Services Agency > > 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min > infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. Drew suggested we might attract more people if our regular monthly meetings are replaced by events that could potentially draw more people, e.g, presentations by representatives of organizations with Green missions and / or discussions of events from a Green perspective. Just brainstorming: Could we invite representatives of the Libertarian Tea Parties, with their task being to try to areas where they might share a common agenda with the Greens? I'm sure they are upset about "crony capitalism". We would agree on that. We might differ on acceptable remedies and the extent to which our military budget qualifies as crony capitalism. However, I think it's important that we all learn to agree to disagree agreeably -- to make politics and political discussion the national sport in the US. If we can do that, we can have the best functioning democracy in the world. To achieve this, we need to transfer most of the current business of our monthly meetings to committees and our County Council. For example, I nominate Caroline to be chair of our Tabling Committee with the authority to do whatever she wants as long as it doesn't cost money and ask approval of the County Council for anything that requires money. Comments? Spencer > > reports: Gavilan, DeAnza, Junior State 5 min each > > youth connections - 5 - 10 min > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Nov 26 20:16:46 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:16:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items In-Reply-To: <50B43496.9010405@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1353989806.55500.YahooMailClassic@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Is our goal to learn how to run a better government or to try to have a Party?? If you have been to any city council meetings, they tend to be long and tedious with agendas prepared 72 hours in advance. If you want a MLM program that attracts lots of people, talk to Donna or Darlene Wallach about Legal Shield.? They have two Parties a week in their program and the room is usually packed.? Caroline did meet?some Libertarians at Jr State who wanted to go have beer and pizza with us and presumably talk?politics.? We declined at the time, but there is no reason why we couldn't do this later.? I would suggest that there isn't really a practical way to get out of doing the nuts and bolts?grunt work needed to hold a monthly meeting. However, there is no reason why we can't go down the path of the Legal Shield people and have more general interest events, even once per week or more. The main problems would be finding a venue and getting a critical mass of interest and funding.? We could start with pizza and beer with the Libertarians and see if it grows at all.?We could invite Peace and Freedom too. Ideally it should evolve from going to a pizza place to having?a GMO free potluck at someone's clubhouse. (I've decided to go on a strict GMO free diet --- still lots of organic and corn syrup free and GMO-soy free junk food, but no GMOs---so I won't be eating out much anymore.) I'll put that item on the agenda for our meeting.? ? John Thielking --- On Mon, 11/26/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items To: "Jim Doyle" Cc: "sosfbay discussion group" Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 7:33 PM On 11/26/2012 4:37 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > As a part of the treasurer's report:???5 min > paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS > > possible speaker - a welfare recipient???5 min > > AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8???announcement > African American Community Services Agency > > 4 year electoral plan???10 - 15 min >? ? infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. ? ? ? Drew suggested we might attract more people if our regular monthly meetings are replaced by events that could potentially draw more people, e.g, presentations by representatives of organizations with Green missions and / or discussions of events from a Green perspective.? Just brainstorming:? Could we invite representatives of the Libertarian Tea Parties, with their task being to try to areas where they might share a common agenda with the Greens?? I'm sure they are upset about "crony capitalism".? We would agree on that.? We might differ on acceptable remedies and the extent to which our military budget qualifies as crony capitalism.? However, I think it's important that we all learn to agree to disagree agreeably -- to make politics and political discussion the national sport in the US.? If we can do that, we can have the best functioning democracy in the world. ? ? ? To achieve this, we need to transfer most of the current business of our monthly meetings to committees and our County Council.? For example, I nominate Caroline to be chair of our Tabling Committee with the authority to do whatever she wants as long as it doesn't cost money and ask approval of the County Council for anything that requires money. ? ? ? Comments? ? ? ? Spencer > > reports:???Gavilan, DeAnza, Junior State???5 min each > > youth connections -???5 - 10 min > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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From: perrysandy at aol.com Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] agenda items Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:55:23 -0500 (EST) Size: 6953 URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Tue Nov 27 18:48:26 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:48:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center Message-ID: <1354070906.93981.YahooMailClassic@web122902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Draft Agenda for November 29, 2012 Green Party of Santa Clara County GA meeting 7:00-7:30 So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this time. possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min? 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time keeper, vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. 7:35 Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. Review minutes from October's meeting and approve. Announcement: AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 African American Community Services Agency 7:50 Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle As a part of the treasurer's report: 5 min paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS 7:55 Holiday Peace Fair. Who is tabling? Who is doing our dessert? Any ideas for student helpers? John and Caroline. 8:05 Human Rights Day march. Caroline. 8:10 Demonstration to support Medicare, Social Security, etc. before they get thrown off the fiscal cliff. Caroline 8:20 Sandy and Drew report on organizing at De Anza (10 min) 8:30 Caroline and Sandy report about Gavilan organizing. (5 min) 8:35 Report back from Jr State. 8:40 Should we start a series of pizza parties and/or other general interest events to build third party support? Should regular monthly meetings continue in current format or should the work be delegated to micro-committees who only have to check in with County Council to get approval for spending money? Contact Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, etc about pizza parties. Find out if we can get a regular venue for a GMO free potluck instead of a questionable GMO content pizza place. And/or should we try to spice up the monthly meetings by actually having speakers at 7PM-7:30PM? 8:55 youth connections - 5 - 10 min 9:00 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. 9:10 Jazzing up our literature and translating it into Vietnamese. Caroline 9:15 Techie committee for web site(s) and discussion of issues re:web sites and their accessibility. For example John Thielking has put out a job on a tech web site that allows people to hire web developers to hire someone to find a tech solution to the Google mobile rendering problem (where Google displays an inadequate ?optimized? display of web pages on cell phones.) I am requesting that anyone I hire for this job will license the html code solution (if available) for Peacemovies.com and for free distribution to the Green Party and other interested parties. Caroline wants the web site to be updated with the correct contact info and up to date issues and events. 9:25PM Last minute planning for Dec 8th talk with Sharat Lin and Pete O'Reilly and possibly one other speaker on the subject of War and Peace with Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. Does the Green Party want to co-sponsor this event? Do we need to pay money for the venue? John is covering gas money for any out of town speakers who want to speak (Peace and Freedom party invitations have been sent out to people in SF). No more than 3 speakers are recommended for this event. 9:35 Meeting ends -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Wed Nov 28 08:08:46 2012 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:08:46 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] photos from Foreclosure Summit? Message-ID: <50B6370E.6010200@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: Does anyone have photos from the Foreclosure Summit, Sept. 15? I need to write an article today for the "Peace Times", published by the San Jos? Peace and Justice Center, and we'd like some visual to accompany it. Thanks, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 28 10:22:45 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 10:22:45 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Holiday Peace Fair Message-ID: <50B65675.20701@sbcglobal.net> The 30th Holiday Peace Fair will take place at the Campbell United Methodist Church, 1675 Winchester Blvd. (just south of Hamilton Avenue) on Saturday, December 1, 2012, 11 a.m. - 4 p.m. The schedule for the entertainment is on our webpage: http://www.wilpfsanjose.org/ There will be a fabulous Children's Room this year -- please bring children to enjoy the crafts and games, plus on-the-hour theater games or storytelling, starting at noon. Face painting for all ages! From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Nov 28 18:29:39 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:29:39 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials Message-ID: <50B6C893.7010003@earthlink.net> Dana and I will be tabling for the GP at the Peace Fair, starting at the beginning. We do not have any materials. We will be at the meeting tomorrow. So whatever materials need to be at the peace fair could be delivered to us at the meeting tomorrow or first thing at the Peace Fair. Anyone know when setup time is at the Peace Fair? Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed Nov 28 18:41:28 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:41:28 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials In-Reply-To: <50B6C893.7010003@earthlink.net> References: <50B6C893.7010003@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50B6CB58.7070908@prodsyse.com> The official hours are 11 AM - 4 PM (www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381). I think set-up officially starts at 9 AM. (I think I heard that some of the organizers plan to arrive at 7:30 to set up tables, etc.) Spencer On 11/28/2012 6:29 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > Dana and I will be tabling for the GP at the > Peace Fair, starting at the beginning. We > do not have any materials. > > We will be at the meeting tomorrow. > > So whatever materials need to be at the peace > fair could be delivered to us at the meeting > tomorrow or first thing at the Peace Fair. > > Anyone know when setup time is at the Peace > Fair? > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 10:01:01 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:01:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials In-Reply-To: <50B6CB58.7070908@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1354212061.40524.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Caroline and I will be arriving with the Green Party tabling supplies at 10AM. Thanks for the extra help. ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking --- On Wed, 11/28/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials To: "Gerry Gras" Cc: "GPSCC" , "Shelby Minister" Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 6:41 PM ? ? ???The official hours are 11 AM - 4 PM (www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381). ? ? ???I think set-up officially starts at 9 AM.? (I think I heard that some of the organizers plan to arrive at 7:30 to set up tables, etc.) ? ? ???Spencer On 11/28/2012 6:29 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > Dana and I will be tabling for the GP at the > Peace Fair, starting at the beginning.? We > do not have any materials. > > We will be at the meeting tomorrow. > > So whatever materials need to be at the peace > fair could be delivered to us at the meeting > tomorrow or first thing at the Peace Fair. > > Anyone know when setup time is at the Peace > Fair? > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 29 11:25:21 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:25:21 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials In-Reply-To: <1354212061.40524.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1354212061.40524.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50B7B6A1.5020208@earthlink.net> I been reminded that I have a workshop in Palo Alto from 1-3, so we will be leaving around noon. Gerry John Thielking wrote: > Caroline and I will be arriving with the Green Party tabling supplies at > 10AM. Thanks for the extra help. > Sincerely, > John Thielking > > --- On *Wed, 11/28/12, Spencer Graves //* > wrote: > > > From: Spencer Graves > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials > To: "Gerry Gras" > Cc: "GPSCC" , "Shelby Minister" > > Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 6:41 PM > > The official hours are 11 AM - 4 PM > (www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381). > > > I think set-up officially starts at 9 AM. (I think I heard > that > some of the organizers plan to arrive at 7:30 to set up tables, etc.) > > > Spencer > > > On 11/28/2012 6:29 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > > Dana and I will be tabling for the GP at the > > Peace Fair, starting at the beginning. We > > do not have any materials. > > > > We will be at the meeting tomorrow. > > > > So whatever materials need to be at the peace > > fair could be delivered to us at the meeting > > tomorrow or first thing at the Peace Fair. > > > > Anyone know when setup time is at the Peace > > Fair? > > > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Nov 29 11:36:25 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:36:25 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials In-Reply-To: <50B7B6A1.5020208@earthlink.net> References: <1354212061.40524.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50B7B6A1.5020208@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50B7B939.9010107@prodsyse.com> Gerry: The doors do not officially open until noon. If you want to come, spend money, and leave early, that's great. Otherwise, we probably will have enough labor to get things set up. Spencer On 11/29/2012 11:25 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > I been reminded that I have a workshop in Palo Alto > from 1-3, so we will be leaving around noon. > > Gerry > > > John Thielking wrote: >> Caroline and I will be arriving with the Green Party tabling supplies at >> 10AM. Thanks for the extra help. >> Sincerely, >> John Thielking >> >> --- On *Wed, 11/28/12, Spencer Graves //* >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Spencer Graves >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials >> To: "Gerry Gras" >> Cc: "GPSCC" , "Shelby Minister" >> >> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 6:41 PM >> >> The official hours are 11 AM - 4 PM >> (www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381). >> >> >> I think set-up officially starts at 9 AM. (I think I heard >> that >> some of the organizers plan to arrive at 7:30 to set up tables, >> etc.) >> >> >> Spencer >> >> >> On 11/28/2012 6:29 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: >> > >> > Dana and I will be tabling for the GP at the >> > Peace Fair, starting at the beginning. We >> > do not have any materials. >> > >> > We will be at the meeting tomorrow. >> > >> > So whatever materials need to be at the peace >> > fair could be delivered to us at the meeting >> > tomorrow or first thing at the Peace Fair. >> > >> > Anyone know when setup time is at the Peace >> > Fair? >> > >> > Gerry >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> > >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Nov 29 12:08:04 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:08:04 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials In-Reply-To: <50B7B939.9010107@prodsyse.com> References: <1354212061.40524.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50B7B6A1.5020208@earthlink.net> <50B7B939.9010107@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <50B7C0A4.7060604@earthlink.net> I thought it opened at 11:00 AM, hmm ... that's what the San Jose Peace Center Website says: http://www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381 Gerry Spencer Graves wrote: > Gerry: The doors do not officially open until noon. If you want to > come, spend money, and leave early, that's great. Otherwise, we > probably will have enough labor to get things set up. Spencer > > > On 11/29/2012 11:25 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: >> >> I been reminded that I have a workshop in Palo Alto >> from 1-3, so we will be leaving around noon. >> >> Gerry >> >> >> John Thielking wrote: >>> Caroline and I will be arriving with the Green Party tabling supplies at >>> 10AM. Thanks for the extra help. >>> Sincerely, >>> John Thielking >>> >>> --- On *Wed, 11/28/12, Spencer Graves //* >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Spencer Graves >>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials >>> To: "Gerry Gras" >>> Cc: "GPSCC" , "Shelby Minister" >>> >>> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 6:41 PM >>> >>> The official hours are 11 AM - 4 PM >>> (www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381). >>> >>> >>> I think set-up officially starts at 9 AM. (I think I heard >>> that >>> some of the organizers plan to arrive at 7:30 to set up tables, >>> etc.) >>> >>> >>> Spencer >>> >>> >>> On 11/28/2012 6:29 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: >>> > >>> > Dana and I will be tabling for the GP at the >>> > Peace Fair, starting at the beginning. We >>> > do not have any materials. >>> > >>> > We will be at the meeting tomorrow. >>> > >>> > So whatever materials need to be at the peace >>> > fair could be delivered to us at the meeting >>> > tomorrow or first thing at the Peace Fair. >>> > >>> > Anyone know when setup time is at the Peace >>> > Fair? >>> > >>> > Gerry >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> >>> >>> > >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>> >>> >>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>> >> From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Nov 29 13:39:19 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:39:19 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials In-Reply-To: <50B7C0A4.7060604@earthlink.net> References: <1354212061.40524.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50B7B6A1.5020208@earthlink.net> <50B7B939.9010107@prodsyse.com> <50B7C0A4.7060604@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50B7D607.50201@prodsyse.com> Hi, Gerry: Thanks for the correction. I thought I checked the times someplace before I wrote that, but unfortunately, I failed to cite my source in my email, so I can't trace this error. Spencer On 11/29/2012 12:08 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > I thought it opened at 11:00 AM, hmm ... > > that's what the San Jose Peace Center Website says: > http://www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381 > > Gerry > > > Spencer Graves wrote: >> Gerry: The doors do not officially open until noon. If you want to >> come, spend money, and leave early, that's great. Otherwise, we >> probably will have enough labor to get things set up. Spencer >> >> >> On 11/29/2012 11:25 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: >>> >>> I been reminded that I have a workshop in Palo Alto >>> from 1-3, so we will be leaving around noon. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>> John Thielking wrote: >>>> Caroline and I will be arriving with the Green Party tabling >>>> supplies at >>>> 10AM. Thanks for the extra help. >>>> Sincerely, >>>> John Thielking >>>> >>>> --- On *Wed, 11/28/12, Spencer Graves //* >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Spencer Graves >>>> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Materials >>>> To: "Gerry Gras" >>>> Cc: "GPSCC" , "Shelby Minister" >>>> >>>> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 6:41 PM >>>> >>>> The official hours are 11 AM - 4 PM >>>> (www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20121008150407381). >>>> >>>> >>>> I think set-up officially starts at 9 AM. (I think I >>>> heard >>>> that >>>> some of the organizers plan to arrive at 7:30 to set up tables, >>>> etc.) >>>> >>>> >>>> Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/28/2012 6:29 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Dana and I will be tabling for the GP at the >>>> > Peace Fair, starting at the beginning. We >>>> > do not have any materials. >>>> > >>>> > We will be at the meeting tomorrow. >>>> > >>>> > So whatever materials need to be at the peace >>>> > fair could be delivered to us at the meeting >>>> > tomorrow or first thing at the Peace Fair. >>>> > >>>> > Anyone know when setup time is at the Peace >>>> > Fair? >>>> > >>>> > Gerry >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>> > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>>> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 15:45:57 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 15:45:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Final Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center In-Reply-To: <1354070906.93981.YahooMailClassic@web122902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1354232757.94004.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Seeing no objections to the draft agenda, this is now the final agenda for tonight's meeting. The only addition to the agenda is that an Iranian named Tanyer Vakili? (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine.? Thanks. ? John Thielking --- On Tue, 11/27/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 6:48 PM Final ?Agenda for November 29, 2012 Green Party of Santa Clara County GA meeting 7:00-7:30 So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this time. possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min? 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time keeper, vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. 7:35 Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. Review minutes from October's meeting and approve. Announcement: AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 African American Community Services Agency 7:50 Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle As a part of the treasurer's report: 5 min paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS 7:55 Holiday Peace Fair. Who is tabling? Who is doing our dessert? Any ideas for student helpers? John and Caroline. 8:05 Human Rights Day march. Caroline. 8:10 Demonstration to support Medicare, Social Security, etc. before they get thrown off the fiscal cliff. Caroline 8:20 Sandy and Drew report on organizing at De Anza (10 min) 8:30 Caroline and Sandy report about Gavilan organizing. (5 min) 8:35 Report back from Jr State. 8:40 Should we start a series of pizza parties and/or other general interest events to build third party support? Should regular monthly meetings continue in current format or should the work be delegated to micro-committees who only have to check in with County Council to get approval for spending money? Contact Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, etc about pizza parties. Find out if we can get a regular venue for a GMO free potluck instead of a questionable GMO content pizza place. And/or should we try to spice up the monthly meetings by actually having speakers at 7PM-7:30PM? 8:55 youth connections - 5 - 10 min 9:00 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. 9:10 Jazzing up our literature and translating it into Vietnamese. Caroline 9:15 Techie committee for web site(s) and discussion of issues re:web sites and their accessibility. For example John Thielking has put out a job on a tech web site that allows people to hire web developers to hire someone to find a tech solution to the Google mobile rendering problem (where Google displays an inadequate ?optimized? display of web pages on cell phones.) I am requesting that anyone I hire for this job will license the html code solution (if available) for Peacemovies.com and for free distribution to the Green Party and other interested parties. Caroline wants the web site to be updated with the correct contact info and up to date issues and events. 9:25PM Last minute planning for Dec 8th talk with Sharat Lin and Pete O'Reilly and possibly one other speaker on the subject of War and Peace with Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. Does the Green Party want to co-sponsor this event? Do we need to pay money for the venue? John is covering gas money for any out of town speakers who want to speak (Peace and Freedom party invitations have been sent out to people in SF). No more than 3 speakers are recommended for this event. ? An Iranian named Tanyer Vakili? (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. 9:35 Meeting ends -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Nov 29 22:36:10 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:36:10 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clara County In-Reply-To: <1354232757.94004.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1354232757.94004.YahooMailClassic@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50B853DA.6010601@prodsyse.com> Please post any additions, corrections, clarifications, etc. to this list. Thanks. Spencer On- 11/29/2012 3:45 PM, John Thielking wrote: > Seeing no objections to the draft agenda, this is now the final agenda > for tonight's meeting. The only addition to the agenda is that an > Iranian named Tanyer Vakili (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he > will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and > Israel/Palestine. Thanks. > John Thielking > > --- On *Tue, 11/27/12, John Thielking //* wrote: > > > From: John Thielking > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On > November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 6:48 PM > > Final Agenda for November 29, 2012 Green Party of Santa Clara > County GA meeting > > 7:00-7:30 > > So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this time. > possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min? > > 7:30 > > Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time keeper, > vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. > facilitator: Tian Note taker: Spencer time keeper: John t vibes: Dana & Gerry agenda preparer: John Thielking > > 7:35 > > Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. Review minutes > from October's meeting and approve. Announcement: > Sat. Dec. 8, New Community of Faith, 6350 Rainbow Dr., San Jos?, CA 95129, 2-4 PM: Dr. Sharat Lin speaking on "War and Peace with Iran, Syria, and Palestine / Israel" > AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 African American Community > Services Agency -- What time? 11 - 6 > 304 N. 6th St., San Jose, CA 408-292-3157 Tian Harter Dana St. George Gerry Gras Caroline Drew Johnson Spencer Graves Pete O'Brien, Peace & Freedom Party John Thielking Fred Dupperault David Merritt Sandy Perry > > 7:50 > > Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle As a part of the > treasurer's report: 5 min > > paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS > collection: $30 cash + $25 check > > 7:55 Holiday Peace Fair. > > Who is tabling? > Dana & Gerry 11-noon Betsy 12-2 John Thielking, all day > Who is doing our dessert? > Dana St. George > Any ideas for student helpers? > > John and Caroline. > > 8:05 Human Rights Day march. Caroline. > Dec. 2 (first Sunday in Dec.) Story & King organized by Volutarios de la Comunidad -- 3 mile march to City Hall. Dec. 7 - austerity crisis march - Dec. 10 similar march in Sacramento(?) > > 8:10 Demonstration to support Medicare, Social Security, etc. > before they get thrown off the fiscal cliff. > > Caroline > > (1) Flash Mob in San Francisco, Dec. 7, someplace; contact Sandy. (2) tentative: demonstration at Zoe Lofgren's office Monday, Dec. 10 organized by Single Payer Coalition + ??? ... contact Sandy. > 8:20 Sandy and Drew report on organizing at De Anza (10 min) > Need to make announcements in the proper classes early in each term to get students to volunteer to do project(s) with the Green Party > > 8:30 Caroline and Sandy report about Gavilan organizing. (5 min) > > > 8:35 Report back from Jr State. > Great event. Do It Yourself button machine sold like crazy. > > 8:40 Should we start a series of pizza parties and/or other > general interest events to build third party support? Should > regular monthly meetings continue in current format or should the > work be delegated to micro-committees who only have to check in > with County Council to get approval for spending money? Contact > Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, etc about pizza parties. Find out > if we can get a regular venue for a GMO free potluck instead of a > questionable GMO content pizza place. And/or should we try to > spice up the monthly meetings by actually having speakers at > 7PM-7:30PM? > Th. Dec. 27: Tian will see if he can get his clubhouse for a holiday. Tian will notify us tomorrow. ** What about webinars? ** What about having meetings in different places? > > 8:55 youth connections - 5 - 10 min > > > 9:00 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min > > infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. > Next step: Get CiviCRM software working for us. Generate joint list of candidates with Peace & Freedom, etc. > > 9:10 Jazzing up our literature and translating it into Vietnamese. > Caroline > Jim Doyle has a volunteer who wants to do something. We want something more eye catching. Many places we go in San Jos?, there are more Vietnamese than Hispanic. > > 9:15 Techie committee for web site(s) and discussion of issues > re:web sites and their accessibility. For example John Thielking > has put out a job on a tech web site that allows people to hire > web developers to hire someone to find a tech solution to the > Google mobile rendering problem (where Google displays an > inadequate "optimized" display of web pages on cell phones.) I am > requesting that anyone I hire for this job will license the html > code solution (if available) for Peacemovies.com and for free > distribution to the Green Party and other interested parties. > Caroline wants the web site to be updated with the correct contact > info and up to date issues and events. > > > 9:25PM Last minute planning for Dec 8^th talk with Sharat Lin and > Pete O'Reilly and possibly one other speaker on the subject of War > and Peace with Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. Does the Green > Party want to co-sponsor this event? Do we need to pay money for > the venue? John is covering gas money for any out of town speakers > who want to speak (Peace and Freedom party invitations have been > sent out to people in SF). No more than 3 speakers are recommended > for this event. > > An Iranian named Tanyer Vakili (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed > that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and > Israel/Palestine. > Drew knows a Tanyer. Drew will try to organize a meeting between Sharat and Pete. Spencer proposes the Green Party endorse a presentation by Sharat Lin at the New Community of Faith Dec. 8. We have a consensus. John is concerned that more than one point of view be presented. Drew has Tanyer in his class, and Tanyer talks all the time. John > > 9:35 Meeting ends > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Nov 29 22:55:22 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:55:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clara County In-Reply-To: <50B853DA.6010601@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1354258522.8323.YahooMailClassic@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> The Green Party of Santa Clara County consensed to co-sponsor the Dec 8th event with Sharat Lin being the only speaker. ? John Thielking, post meeting, has withdrawn Peacemovies.com as one of the co-sponsors of the event. --- On Thu, 11/29/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clara County To: Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 10:36 PM Please post any additions, corrections, clarifications, etc. to this list.? Thanks.? Spencer On- 11/29/2012 3:45 PM, John Thielking wrote: Seeing no objections to the draft agenda, this is now the final agenda for tonight's meeting. The only addition to the agenda is that an Iranian named Tanyer Vakili? (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine.? Thanks. ? John Thielking --- On Tue, 11/27/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 6:48 PM Final ?Agenda for November 29, 2012 Green Party of Santa Clara County GA meeting 7:00-7:30 So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this time. possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min? 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time keeper, vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. facilitator:? Tian? Note taker:? Spencer time keeper:? John t vibes:? Dana & Gerry agenda preparer:? John Thielking 7:35 Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. Review minutes from October's meeting and approve. Announcement: Sat. Dec. 8, New Community of Faith, 6350 Rainbow Dr., San Jos?, CA 95129,? 2-4 PM:? Dr. Sharat Lin speaking on "War and Peace with Iran, Syria, and Palestine / Israel" AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 African American Community Services Agency -- What time??? 11 - 6? 304 N. 6th St., San Jose, CA 408-292-3157 Tian Harter Dana St. George Gerry Gras Caroline Drew Johnson? Spencer Graves Pete O'Brien, Peace & Freedom Party John Thielking Fred Dupperault David Merritt Sandy Perry ? 7:50 Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle As a part of the treasurer's report: 5 min paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS collection:? $30 cash + $25 check 7:55 Holiday Peace Fair. Who is tabling? Dana & Gerry 11-noon Betsy 12-2 John Thielking, all day Who is doing our dessert? Dana St. George Any ideas for student helpers? John and Caroline. ??? 8:05 Human Rights Day march. Caroline. Dec. 2 (first Sunday in Dec.) Story & King organized by Volutarios de la Comunidad -- 3 mile march to City Hall.? Dec. 7 - austerity crisis march - Dec. 10 similar march in Sacramento(?) 8:10 Demonstration to support Medicare, Social Security, etc. before they get thrown off the fiscal cliff. Caroline (1) Flash Mob in San Francisco, Dec. 7, someplace;? contact Sandy.? (2) tentative:? demonstration at Zoe Lofgren's office Monday, Dec. 10 organized by Single Payer Coalition + ???? ... contact Sandy.? 8:20 Sandy and Drew report on organizing at De Anza (10 min) ????? Need to make announcements in the proper classes early in each term to get students to volunteer to do project(s) with the Green Party ????? 8:30 Caroline and Sandy report about Gavilan organizing. (5 min) ????? 8:35 Report back from Jr State. Great event.? Do It Yourself button machine sold like crazy.? 8:40 Should we start a series of pizza parties and/or other general interest events to build third party support? Should regular monthly meetings continue in current format or should the work be delegated to micro-committees who only have to check in with County Council to get approval for spending money? Contact Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, etc about pizza parties. Find out if we can get a regular venue for a GMO free potluck instead of a questionable GMO content pizza place. And/or should we try to spice up the monthly meetings by actually having speakers at 7PM-7:30PM? Th. Dec. 27:? Tian will see if he can get his clubhouse for a holiday.? Tian will notify us tomorrow.? ** What about webinars?? ** What about having meetings in different places?? ????? 8:55 youth connections - 5 - 10 min 9:00 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. Next step:? Get CiviCRM software working for us.? Generate joint list of candidates with Peace & Freedom, etc.? 9:10 Jazzing up our literature and translating it into Vietnamese. Caroline Jim Doyle has a volunteer who wants to do something.? We want something more eye catching.? Many places we go in San Jos?, there are more Vietnamese than Hispanic.? ????? 9:15 Techie committee for web site(s) and discussion of issues re:web sites and their accessibility. For example John Thielking has put out a job on a tech web site that allows people to hire web developers to hire someone to find a tech solution to the Google mobile rendering problem (where Google displays an inadequate ?optimized? display of web pages on cell phones.) I am requesting that anyone I hire for this job will license the html code solution (if available) for Peacemovies.com and for free distribution to the Green Party and other interested parties. Caroline wants the web site to be updated with the correct contact info and up to date issues and events. ????? 9:25PM Last minute planning for Dec 8th talk with Sharat Lin and Pete O'Reilly and possibly one other speaker on the subject of War and Peace with Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. Does the Green Party want to co-sponsor this event? Do we need to pay money for the venue? John is covering gas money for any out of town speakers who want to speak (Peace and Freedom party invitations have been sent out to people in SF). No more than 3 speakers are recommended for this event. ? An Iranian named Tanyer Vakili? (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. ????? Drew knows a Tanyer.? Drew will try to organize a meeting between Sharat and Pete.? Spencer proposes the Green Party endorse a presentation by Sharat Lin at the New Community of Faith Dec. 8.? We have a consensus.? John is concerned that more than one point of view be presented.? Drew has Tanyer in his class, and Tanyer talks all the time.? John 9:35 Meeting ends -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Nov 30 09:13:43 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:13:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Peace Fair Message-ID: <1354295623.70165.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I am spending today making more schwag for the Peace Fair, at which I will be tabling. Anyone who wishes to iron tee shirts, paint rocks and pots, make clever refrigerator magnets, or come up with something new is welcome, and I will happily feed you turkey soup. Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Nov 30 14:25:44 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:25:44 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Progress on ending GWOT? Message-ID: <50B93268.4090704@earthlink.net> "'Tipping Point': Obama Lawyer Talks About Ending 'Endless' US War" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/30-9 Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Nov 30 15:41:10 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:41:10 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clara County In-Reply-To: <1354258522.8323.YahooMailClassic@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1354258522.8323.YahooMailClassic@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50B94416.7080900@prodsyse.com> The essence of democracy, according to the research I've found most persuasive, is not elections but civil society, with civil society defined as the ability to find common ground with others, set aside your differences, and work together for the common good. Any nation with a sufficiently robust civil society will ultimately get electoral democracy if they don't already have it. Conversely, formal elections in nations without civil society have tended to become increasingly farcical and are often suspended. (See the Wikipedia article on "Civil Society.") The rise of shock jocks calling liberals "pin heads" and equally virulent reactions from the left to me are disturbing trends towards reducing the power of honest democratic politics in the US. "Politics is the art of the possible," according to Otto von Bismark, who convinced waring German noblemen to set aside their differences and build a nation greater than themselves -- modern Germany (Wikiquotes for Bismark, http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck). Harvard law professor and constitutional scholar Lawrence Lessig identified the corrosive influence of money in politics as the "gateway problem" facing the US today in the sense that we must solve this problem first before we can hope to make real substantive progress on any of the other major problems facing the nation and the world today (Wikipedia, "Republic, Lost"). Lessig observed that the Tea Party and the Occupy movement have two things in common: 1. Both oppose crony capitalism. 2. Elements of each group accuse any in each group that tries to talk with the other of treason. Lessig says that if we can ignore our differences and collaborate on our shared concern, crony capitalism, we can solve that problem. If we don't, the ultra-wealthy will further enrich themselves at our expense (Wikipedia, "One Way Forward"). I do not believe that people on the Left know the "truth" and people on the Right do not. I continually look for defects in my current knowledge, because I know that I too often do stupid things based on things I know that ain't so. There are clearly people in the Tea Party who are paid to do what they can to prevent the public from obtaining information Tea Party members need to make better decisions. But people on the Left have blind spots also. I think it's possible to build a broad coalition including most of the Tea Party and most of the Greens, Peace and Freedom Party, Republicans and Democrats to fix our crony capitalism problem. For more on Lessig's efforts to do this, see "rootstrikers.org" and "http://interoccupy.net/blog/money-out-voters-in". Best Wishes, Spencer On 11/29/2012 10:55 PM, John Thielking wrote: > The Green Party of Santa Clara County consensed to co-sponsor the Dec > 8th event with Sharat Lin being the only speaker. > John Thielking, post meeting, has withdrawn Peacemovies.com as one of > the co-sponsors of the event. > > --- On *Thu, 11/29/12, Spencer Graves //* > wrote: > > > From: Spencer Graves > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of > Santa Clara County > To: > Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 10:36 PM > > Please post any additions, corrections, clarifications, etc. to > this list. Thanks. Spencer > > > On- 11/29/2012 3:45 PM, John Thielking wrote: >> Seeing no objections to the draft agenda, this is now the final >> agenda for tonight's meeting. The only addition to the agenda is >> that an Iranian named Tanyer Vakili (a friend of Leyla) has >> confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, >> Syria and Israel/Palestine. Thanks. >> John Thielking >> >> --- On *Tue, 11/27/12, John Thielking / >> /* >> wrote: >> >> >> From: John Thielking >> >> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On >> November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center >> To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 6:48 PM >> >> Final Agenda for November 29, 2012 Green Party of Santa >> Clara County GA meeting >> >> 7:00-7:30 >> >> So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this >> time. possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min? >> >> 7:30 >> >> Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time >> keeper, vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. >> > > > facilitator: Tian > > > Note taker: Spencer > > > time keeper: John t > > > vibes: Dana & Gerry > > > agenda preparer: John Thielking > >> >> 7:35 >> >> Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. Review >> minutes from October's meeting and approve. Announcement: >> > > > Sat. Dec. 8, New Community of Faith, 6350 Rainbow Dr., San Jos?, > CA 95129, 2-4 PM: Dr. Sharat Lin speaking on "War and Peace with > Iran, Syria, and Palestine / Israel" > > >> AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 African American >> Community Services Agency -- What time? 11 - 6 >> > 304 N. 6th St., San Jose, CA 408-292-3157 > > > > Tian Harter > > > Dana St. George > > > Gerry Gras > > > Caroline > > > Drew Johnson > > > Spencer Graves > > > Pete O'Brien, Peace & Freedom Party > > > John Thielking > > > Fred Dupperault > > > David Merritt > > > Sandy Perry > > >> >> 7:50 >> >> Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle As a part of >> the treasurer's report: 5 min >> >> paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS >> > > > collection: $30 cash + $25 check > > >> >> 7:55 Holiday Peace Fair. >> >> Who is tabling? >> > > > Dana & Gerry 11-noon > > > Betsy 12-2 > > > John Thielking, all day > > >> Who is doing our dessert? >> > > > Dana St. George > > >> Any ideas for student helpers? >> >> John and Caroline. >> > >> 8:05 Human Rights Day march. Caroline. >> > > > Dec. 2 (first Sunday in Dec.) Story & King organized by Volutarios > de la Comunidad -- 3 mile march to City Hall. > > > Dec. 7 - austerity crisis march - > > > Dec. 10 similar march in Sacramento(?) > >> >> 8:10 Demonstration to support Medicare, Social Security, etc. >> before they get thrown off the fiscal cliff. >> >> Caroline >> >> > > (1) Flash Mob in San Francisco, Dec. 7, someplace; contact Sandy. > > > (2) tentative: demonstration at Zoe Lofgren's office Monday, Dec. > 10 organized by Single Payer Coalition + ??? ... contact Sandy. > > >> 8:20 Sandy and Drew report on organizing at De Anza (10 min) >> > > Need to make announcements in the proper classes early in > each term to get students to volunteer to do project(s) with the > Green Party > > >> >> 8:30 Caroline and Sandy report about Gavilan organizing. (5 min) >> > >> >> 8:35 Report back from Jr State. >> > > > Great event. Do It Yourself button machine sold like crazy. > > >> >> 8:40 Should we start a series of pizza parties and/or other >> general interest events to build third party support? Should >> regular monthly meetings continue in current format or should >> the work be delegated to micro-committees who only have to >> check in with County Council to get approval for spending >> money? Contact Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, etc about >> pizza parties. Find out if we can get a regular venue for a >> GMO free potluck instead of a questionable GMO content pizza >> place. And/or should we try to spice up the monthly meetings >> by actually having speakers at 7PM-7:30PM? >> > > Th. Dec. 27: Tian will see if he can get his clubhouse for a > holiday. Tian will notify us tomorrow. > > > ** What about webinars? > > > ** What about having meetings in different places? > >> >> 8:55 youth connections - 5 - 10 min >> >> >> 9:00 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min >> >> infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social >> media, etc. >> > > Next step: Get CiviCRM software working for us. > > > Generate joint list of candidates with Peace & Freedom, etc. > >> >> 9:10 Jazzing up our literature and translating it into >> Vietnamese. Caroline >> > > Jim Doyle has a volunteer who wants to do something. We want > something more eye catching. Many places we go in San Jos?, there > are more Vietnamese than Hispanic. > >> >> 9:15 Techie committee for web site(s) and discussion of >> issues re:web sites and their accessibility. For example John >> Thielking has put out a job on a tech web site that allows >> people to hire web developers to hire someone to find a tech >> solution to the Google mobile rendering problem (where Google >> displays an inadequate ?optimized? display of web pages on >> cell phones.) I am requesting that anyone I hire for this job >> will license the html code solution (if available) for >> Peacemovies.com and for free distribution to the Green Party >> and other interested parties. Caroline wants the web site to >> be updated with the correct contact info and up to date >> issues and events. >> >> > > >> 9:25PM Last minute planning for Dec 8^th talk with Sharat Lin >> and Pete O'Reilly and possibly one other speaker on the >> subject of War and Peace with Iran, Syria and >> Israel/Palestine. Does the Green Party want to co-sponsor >> this event? Do we need to pay money for the venue? John is >> covering gas money for any out of town speakers who want to >> speak (Peace and Freedom party invitations have been sent out >> to people in SF). No more than 3 speakers are recommended for >> this event. >> >> An Iranian named Tanyer Vakili (a friend of Leyla) has >> confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on >> Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. >> > > > Drew knows a Tanyer. > > > Drew will try to organize a meeting between Sharat and Pete. > > > Spencer proposes the Green Party endorse a presentation by Sharat > Lin at the New Community of Faith Dec. 8. We have a consensus. > > > John is concerned that more than one point of view be presented. > Drew has Tanyer in his class, and Tanyer talks all the time. John > >> >> 9:35 Meeting ends >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Nov 30 16:32:37 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:32:37 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] internshipss with project vote smart Message-ID: <50B95025.6080004@sbcglobal.net> Are you a student or recent graduate interested in contributing to Project Vote Smart 's mission of providing *factual, free and unbiased information* on your elected officials? 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From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Nov 30 16:44:04 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:44:04 -0800 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Animal Abuse Expert? Message-ID: <50B952D4.2010008@earthlink.net> I got a call from a high school teacher in Mountain View. He has a student doing research on animal abuse by Agribusinees and Animal Testing. Is there anyone who is very knowledgable about this, and willing to meet the student next week? Gerry From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 20:50:01 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clara County In-Reply-To: <50B94416.7080900@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1354337401.78576.YahooMailClassic@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To see if you are ready to sit in the same room with a Republican or Libertarian and talk politics, try watching the Lone Liberal Rumble or Big Picture Rumble segments of Thom Hartmann's Big Picture on www.rt.com. Channel 103 on Comcast in SJ area at 4PM and 7PM Mon-Fri. Most of the time when these?people come on that segment I hit the mute button until the segment is over. They have all kinds of whacko rationalizations for beating up their fellow man with austerity measures coming out of the mouths of the people he has on that segment of his show. Tonight, the Libertarian guy repeated the discredited notion that raising the minimum wage significantly reduces employment opportunities.? There is a nice article on wikipedia that shows some decent studies that put that notion to rest. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage?.? Also, even people on the left (such as Steven Argue on Facebook) often put forward the childish argument that "your sources can't be trusted because they spit out capitalist propaganda".? That was Steven Argue's response to my pointing out to?him that the article located here http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=505 took info presented by the Wall Street Journal and made a good argument that small businesses pay?their employees more than large businesses. He totally disrespected the quality of my sources ("A google search for articles on instances of small businesses paying lower wages is not reliable" or "wikipedia can't be trusted") because?the information I presented went against his personal experience that small businesses tend to pay their workers less.? My experience is that, within the same industry, smaller businesses pay their workers more.? They also offer more hours of work and are easier to work for from a performance demand point of view.?? ? Good luck. ? John Thielking ? PS Steven Argue has a bias against wikipedia because they wouldn't allow his editing of the page on Mumia Abu-Jamal to stay up.? In most other instances, wikipedia is not biased against our interests. --- On Fri, 11/30/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clara County To: "John Thielking" Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Friday, November 30, 2012, 3:41 PM ????? The essence of democracy, according to the research I've found most persuasive, is not elections but civil society, with civil society defined as the ability to find common ground with others, set aside your differences, and work together for the common good.? Any nation with a sufficiently robust civil society will ultimately get electoral democracy if they don't already have it.? Conversely, formal elections in nations without civil society have tended to become increasingly farcical and are often suspended.? (See the Wikipedia article on "Civil Society.")? The rise of shock jocks calling liberals "pin heads" and equally virulent reactions from the left to me are disturbing trends towards reducing the power of honest democratic politics in the US.? ????? "Politics is the art of the possible," according to Otto von Bismark, who convinced waring German noblemen to set aside their differences and build a nation greater than themselves -- modern Germany (Wikiquotes for Bismark, http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck).? ????? Harvard law professor and constitutional scholar Lawrence Lessig identified the corrosive influence of money in politics as the "gateway problem" facing the US today in the sense that we must solve this problem first before we can hope to make real substantive progress on any of the other major problems facing the nation and the world today (Wikipedia, "Republic, Lost").? Lessig observed that the Tea Party and the Occupy movement have two things in common:? ??? ??????? 1.? Both oppose crony capitalism.? ??? ??????? 2.? Elements of each group accuse any in each group that tries to talk with the other of treason.? Lessig says that if we can ignore our differences and collaborate on our shared concern, crony capitalism, we can solve that problem.? If we don't, the ultra-wealthy will further enrich themselves at our expense (Wikipedia, "One Way Forward").? ????? I do not believe that people on the Left know the "truth" and people on the Right do not.? I continually look for defects in my current knowledge, because I know that I too often do stupid things based on things I know that ain't so.? There are clearly people in the Tea Party who are paid to do what they can to prevent the public from obtaining information Tea Party members need to make better decisions.? But people on the Left have blind spots also.? ????? I think it's possible to build a broad coalition including most of the Tea Party and most of the Greens, Peace and Freedom Party, Republicans and Democrats to fix our crony capitalism problem.? For more on Lessig's efforts to do this, see "rootstrikers.org" and "http://interoccupy.net/blog/money-out-voters-in". ????? ????? Best Wishes, ????? Spencer On 11/29/2012 10:55 PM, John Thielking wrote: The Green Party of Santa Clara County consensed to co-sponsor the Dec 8th event with Sharat Lin being the only speaker. ? John Thielking, post meeting, has withdrawn Peacemovies.com as one of the co-sponsors of the event. --- On Thu, 11/29/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clara County To: Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 10:36 PM Please post any additions, corrections, clarifications, etc. to this list.? Thanks.? Spencer On- 11/29/2012 3:45 PM, John Thielking wrote: Seeing no objections to the draft agenda, this is now the final agenda for tonight's meeting. The only addition to the agenda is that an Iranian named Tanyer Vakili? (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine.? Thanks. ? John Thielking --- On Tue, 11/27/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 6:48 PM Final ?Agenda for November 29, 2012 Green Party of Santa Clara County GA meeting 7:00-7:30 So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this time. possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min? 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time keeper, vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. facilitator:? Tian? Note taker:? Spencer time keeper:? John t vibes:? Dana & Gerry agenda preparer:? John Thielking 7:35 Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. Review minutes from October's meeting and approve. Announcement: Sat. Dec. 8, New Community of Faith, 6350 Rainbow Dr., San Jos?, CA 95129,? 2-4 PM:? Dr. Sharat Lin speaking on "War and Peace with Iran, Syria, and Palestine / Israel" AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 African American Community Services Agency -- What time??? 11 - 6? 304 N. 6th St., San Jose, CA 408-292-3157 Tian Harter Dana St. George Gerry Gras Caroline Drew Johnson? Spencer Graves Pete O'Brien, Peace & Freedom Party John Thielking Fred Dupperault David Merritt Sandy Perry ? 7:50 Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle As a part of the treasurer's report: 5 min paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS collection:? $30 cash + $25 check 7:55 Holiday Peace Fair. Who is tabling? Dana & Gerry 11-noon Betsy 12-2 John Thielking, all day Who is doing our dessert? Dana St. George Any ideas for student helpers? John and Caroline. ??? 8:05 Human Rights Day march. Caroline. Dec. 2 (first Sunday in Dec.) Story & King organized by Volutarios de la Comunidad -- 3 mile march to City Hall.? Dec. 7 - austerity crisis march - Dec. 10 similar march in Sacramento(?) 8:10 Demonstration to support Medicare, Social Security, etc. before they get thrown off the fiscal cliff. Caroline (1) Flash Mob in San Francisco, Dec. 7, someplace;? contact Sandy.? (2) tentative:? demonstration at Zoe Lofgren's office Monday, Dec. 10 organized by Single Payer Coalition + ???? ... contact Sandy.? 8:20 Sandy and Drew report on organizing at De Anza (10 min) ????? Need to make announcements in the proper classes early in each term to get students to volunteer to do project(s) with the Green Party ????? 8:30 Caroline and Sandy report about Gavilan organizing. (5 min) ????? 8:35 Report back from Jr State. Great event.? Do It Yourself button machine sold like crazy.? 8:40 Should we start a series of pizza parties and/or other general interest events to build third party support? Should regular monthly meetings continue in current format or should the work be delegated to micro-committees who only have to check in with County Council to get approval for spending money? Contact Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, etc about pizza parties. Find out if we can get a regular venue for a GMO free potluck instead of a questionable GMO content pizza place. And/or should we try to spice up the monthly meetings by actually having speakers at 7PM-7:30PM? Th. Dec. 27:? Tian will see if he can get his clubhouse for a holiday.? Tian will notify us tomorrow.? ** What about webinars?? ** What about having meetings in different places?? ????? 8:55 youth connections - 5 - 10 min 9:00 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. Next step:? Get CiviCRM software working for us.? Generate joint list of candidates with Peace & Freedom, etc.? 9:10 Jazzing up our literature and translating it into Vietnamese. Caroline Jim Doyle has a volunteer who wants to do something.? We want something more eye catching.? Many places we go in San Jos?, there are more Vietnamese than Hispanic.? ????? 9:15 Techie committee for web site(s) and discussion of issues re:web sites and their accessibility. For example John Thielking has put out a job on a tech web site that allows people to hire web developers to hire someone to find a tech solution to the Google mobile rendering problem (where Google displays an inadequate ?optimized? display of web pages on cell phones.) I am requesting that anyone I hire for this job will license the html code solution (if available) for Peacemovies.com and for free distribution to the Green Party and other interested parties. Caroline wants the web site to be updated with the correct contact info and up to date issues and events. ????? 9:25PM Last minute planning for Dec 8th talk with Sharat Lin and Pete O'Reilly and possibly one other speaker on the subject of War and Peace with Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. Does the Green Party want to co-sponsor this event? Do we need to pay money for the venue? John is covering gas money for any out of town speakers who want to speak (Peace and Freedom party invitations have been sent out to people in SF). No more than 3 speakers are recommended for this event. ? An Iranian named Tanyer Vakili? (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. ????? Drew knows a Tanyer.? Drew will try to organize a meeting between Sharat and Pete.? Spencer proposes the Green Party endorse a presentation by Sharat Lin at the New Community of Faith Dec. 8.? We have a consensus.? John is concerned that more than one point of view be presented.? Drew has Tanyer in his class, and Tanyer talks all the time.? John 9:35 Meeting ends -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Fri Nov 30 23:16:21 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 07:16:21 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Minutes of November meeting Green Party of Santa Clar a County Message-ID: <20121130.231621.11514.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I don't see any notes under the "9:15 Techie committee for web site(s)..." item. Did a discussion of any of those issues happen, or was that item skipped? Thanks, Valerie Please note: message attached ____________________________________________________________ New Diet Pill Sales Soar New 'fast acting' diet pill flying off shelves admist consumer frenzy http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50b9af0b52022f0a6dedst04vuc -------------- next part -------------- Please post any additions, corrections, clarifications, etc. to this list. Thanks. Spencer On- 11/29/2012 3:45 PM, John Thielking wrote: > Seeing no objections to the draft agenda, this is now the final agenda > for tonight's meeting. The only addition to the agenda is that an > Iranian named Tanyer Vakili (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed that he > will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and > Israel/Palestine. Thanks. > John Thielking > > --- On *Tue, 11/27/12, John Thielking //* wrote: > > > From: John Thielking > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For GPSCC GA Meeting On > November 29, 2012 7:30PM San Jose Peace Center > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 6:48 PM > > Final Agenda for November 29, 2012 Green Party of Santa Clara > County GA meeting > > 7:00-7:30 > > So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this time. > possible speaker - a welfare recipient 5 min? > > 7:30 > > Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time keeper, > vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. > facilitator: Tian Note taker: Spencer time keeper: John t vibes: Dana & Gerry agenda preparer: John Thielking > > 7:35 > > Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. Review minutes > from October's meeting and approve. Announcement: > Sat. Dec. 8, New Community of Faith, 6350 Rainbow Dr., San Jos?, CA 95129, 2-4 PM: Dr. Sharat Lin speaking on "War and Peace with Iran, Syria, and Palestine / Israel" > AACSA fundraising fish fry December 8 African American Community > Services Agency -- What time? 11 - 6 > 304 N. 6th St., San Jose, CA 408-292-3157 Tian Harter Dana St. George Gerry Gras Caroline Drew Johnson Spencer Graves Pete O'Brien, Peace & Freedom Party John Thielking Fred Dupperault David Merritt Sandy Perry > > 7:50 > > Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle As a part of the > treasurer's report: 5 min > > paypal donation & $50 annual fee to SOS > collection: $30 cash + $25 check > > 7:55 Holiday Peace Fair. > > Who is tabling? > Dana & Gerry 11-noon Betsy 12-2 John Thielking, all day > Who is doing our dessert? > Dana St. George > Any ideas for student helpers? > > John and Caroline. > > 8:05 Human Rights Day march. Caroline. > Dec. 2 (first Sunday in Dec.) Story & King organized by Volutarios de la Comunidad -- 3 mile march to City Hall. Dec. 7 - austerity crisis march - Dec. 10 similar march in Sacramento(?) > > 8:10 Demonstration to support Medicare, Social Security, etc. > before they get thrown off the fiscal cliff. > > Caroline > > (1) Flash Mob in San Francisco, Dec. 7, someplace; contact Sandy. (2) tentative: demonstration at Zoe Lofgren's office Monday, Dec. 10 organized by Single Payer Coalition + ??? ... contact Sandy. > 8:20 Sandy and Drew report on organizing at De Anza (10 min) > Need to make announcements in the proper classes early in each term to get students to volunteer to do project(s) with the Green Party > > 8:30 Caroline and Sandy report about Gavilan organizing. (5 min) > > > 8:35 Report back from Jr State. > Great event. Do It Yourself button machine sold like crazy. > > 8:40 Should we start a series of pizza parties and/or other > general interest events to build third party support? Should > regular monthly meetings continue in current format or should the > work be delegated to micro-committees who only have to check in > with County Council to get approval for spending money? Contact > Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, etc about pizza parties. Find out > if we can get a regular venue for a GMO free potluck instead of a > questionable GMO content pizza place. And/or should we try to > spice up the monthly meetings by actually having speakers at > 7PM-7:30PM? > Th. Dec. 27: Tian will see if he can get his clubhouse for a holiday. Tian will notify us tomorrow. ** What about webinars? ** What about having meetings in different places? > > 8:55 youth connections - 5 - 10 min > > > 9:00 4 year electoral plan 10 - 15 min > > infrastructure, candidate(s), fundraising, gotv, social media, etc. > Next step: Get CiviCRM software working for us. Generate joint list of candidates with Peace & Freedom, etc. > > 9:10 Jazzing up our literature and translating it into Vietnamese. > Caroline > Jim Doyle has a volunteer who wants to do something. We want something more eye catching. Many places we go in San Jos?, there are more Vietnamese than Hispanic. > > 9:15 Techie committee for web site(s) and discussion of issues > re:web sites and their accessibility. For example John Thielking > has put out a job on a tech web site that allows people to hire > web developers to hire someone to find a tech solution to the > Google mobile rendering problem (where Google displays an > inadequate "optimized" display of web pages on cell phones.) I am > requesting that anyone I hire for this job will license the html > code solution (if available) for Peacemovies.com and for free > distribution to the Green Party and other interested parties. > Caroline wants the web site to be updated with the correct contact > info and up to date issues and events. > > > 9:25PM Last minute planning for Dec 8^th talk with Sharat Lin and > Pete O'Reilly and possibly one other speaker on the subject of War > and Peace with Iran, Syria and Israel/Palestine. Does the Green > Party want to co-sponsor this event? Do we need to pay money for > the venue? John is covering gas money for any out of town speakers > who want to speak (Peace and Freedom party invitations have been > sent out to people in SF). No more than 3 speakers are recommended > for this event. > > An Iranian named Tanyer Vakili (a friend of Leyla) has confirmed > that he will be speaking at the Dec 8th event on Iran, Syria and > Israel/Palestine. > Drew knows a Tanyer. Drew will try to organize a meeting between Sharat and Pete. Spencer proposes the Green Party endorse a presentation by Sharat Lin at the New Community of Faith Dec. 8. We have a consensus. John is concerned that more than one point of view be presented. Drew has Tanyer in his class, and Tanyer talks all the time. John > > 9:35 Meeting ends > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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