[GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein finished 4th with 0.3% of the vote

[Tian Harter]

On 11/11/2012 07:59 PM, Spencer Graves wrote:
> I haven't seen the election results posted here: 
> "www.greenpartywatch.org/2012/11/07/jill-stein-election-results".
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> "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Stein_presidential_campaign,_2012" 
> says that the Green Party nominee was on the ballot in states 
> representing 49.6% of the electoral college in 2004, 68.4% in 2008 and 
> 87.2% in 2012.
>
>
>       That's modest progress, but we'll need something much more to 
> break the current duopoly.
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>       Spencer
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>
Meanwhile, the duopoly has gotten creakier and the national debt has 
grown to incomprehensible levels. I'm baffled by what it takes to get 
people to pay attention to the situation. Twenty years ago it was very 
predictable that things would get worse for as long as people trusted 
things to be okay. Sad to report that the prediction was good. Maybe 
more people will wake up to the fact that green values are a useful part 
of the solution.

I've sort of concluded that people need to see the value of *Green 
Values*(TM) in their own lives before they are willing to vote for them 
in the public arena. That's why I like to tell people "stop voting for 
oil companies at the gas pump." Unfortunately, too many of them see the 
the limits on their mobility instead of the "unlimits" on their future 
that saving fuel gets us.

I'm a bit sour on the system right now. Maybe we could have done more if 
there were candidates making the case all summer, but top two scratched 
that. I'm thinking the answer is to be a movement party, but that seems 
to take a huge leap of faith from lots of people that are happier 
sitting on their asses. Not sure what to do about that.

I agree that Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala are the best candidates we've 
had since Nader. Hopefully that means that the rest of the National 
Greens are getting it on what makes a good Presidential Candidate. Maybe 
then we'll continue to progress on that!

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