From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Sep 2 10:02:18 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 10:02:18 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Progressive Mag on voting third party In-Reply-To: <504108BC.9050409@earthlink.net> References: <504108BC.9050409@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5043911A.6010203@prodsyse.com> "The Progressive" is available in electronic format at the King library, at least according to their electronic catalog. I take a USB drive to the library and get many articles like that in PDF format. Occasionally, the system defeats me, but this usually works. Spencer On 8/31/2012 11:55 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive magazine, > asks whether or not it is better to vote third party. > Apparently, he does not answer it. Apparently to read > the full article, you need to read the (paper) magazine. > This is only a short except: > > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/08/31-10 > http://www.progressive.org/third-party-dilemma > > It says a little bit about Jill Stein. And here are > the last 2 paragraphs: > > ======================== > > Or do you?do I??vote for Jill Stein or Rocky Anderson (or choose not > to vote for President at all, as my predecessor, Erwin Knoll opted to > do, not wanting to give his consent to the entire system), believing > that only by staking out a real leftwing alternative are we ever going > to move people toward the humane, peaceful, green, and egalitarian > society we seek? > > There is no easy way out of this trap, and I?m not going to spring you > from it. > > ======================== > > > I guess it might be a good idea to read the full article, > to prepare for what liberal Democrats might say. I hope > to read it at my local library. > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sun Sep 2 12:08:49 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:08:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: Progressive Mag on voting third party In-Reply-To: References: <504108BC.9050409@earthlink.net>, <5043911A.6010203@prodsyse.com>, Message-ID: Commondeams has some interesting comments (I've boiled them down somewhat): http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/08/31-10 If we never show the courage to buck the system there will NEVER be change. Listen to Eugene Debs: It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it. Thomas Frank's latest article in Harpers Magazine says: "[We ask the] right?with its mythology of heroic ?job creators??[to end unemployment]. It is the right that talks about the little people, about smashing the cozy Beltway consensus, about bringing in a whole new crop of leaders." "As I watched this upside-down unrest emerge, I used to wonder how long it would take Obama to switch on his inner FDR and start grappling with the nation?s problems the way they obviously needed to be grappled with.The years passed, and I finally realized that this was never going to happen. Then a different possibility started to dawn on me: Maybe a second New Deal is precisely what Obama was here to prevent. Maybe that was the hope all along." We're in the midst of a four year depression. We have a right-wing Democratic President who only pretended to do anything about it. The fat cats are doing fine. Not one single prominent "progressive" Democrat had the integrity to challenge Obama in the primaries. The Republicans are doing their level best to keep Obama in office. (It's possible that NEITHER candidate really wants to be in charge for the next 4 years - bad news for the rest of us.) The USA's descent into mercantile tyranny is truly naked. Corruption on this epic, operatic scale destroys nations. Why do the oppressed love their oppressors? Jonathan Turley, a civil liberties scholar: "Obama has violated his oath to uphold the Constitution. . . . It is, in my opinion, no excuse tovote for someone who has violated core constitutional rights and civil liberties simply because you believe the other side is no better. You cannot pretend that your vote does not constitute at least a tacit approval of the policies of the candidate." The effect of Obama in the White House has been to mute dissent of militarism and loss of civil liberties. Had McCain been elected in '08 and done the same things as Mr. Obama, dissent would be alive among Democrats. Instead, among Democrats it simply does not exist. If the only possible winners are a wolf and a wolf in sheep's clothing, I personally would rather the naked wolf wins. Should I subscribe to a publication (The Progressive)that matches my interests and beliefs in order to be a better informed, more effective citizen/activist; or should I subscribe to a more mainstream publication like Newsweek that will provide access to info that promotes career advancement and more lucrative economic opportunities? Say no to both parties... The Ron Paul libertarians left the GOP convention tuesday and they will support Gary Johnson... Perhaps if enough votes can be bled from the two corrupt parties change can happen. A Green Party friend running for the state legislature in a conservative rural district is finding unexpected reservoirs of rage in the boonies - people who normally vote Republican. Should we all worry that if we don't vote for Mussolini, Hitler could take over? No thanks. If you want war crimes, spying, bank fraud, corruption and bribery to be the forces running the country vote for a Democrat or Republican and you win either way. Obama hasn't earned my vote, and the Democratic party is just as much in hock to the corporate powers that be as the Republicans. Obama doesn't give a damn about any of us. And voting for him is voting against your own best interests in the long run, and prolonging the misery by continuing to prop up this rancid, corrupt and evil system.Now is the time for courage, as Jill Stein says. The more people vote for the "lesser evil" the more evil government becomes. Stop cooperating with this system of crime and corruption. Obama is the more effective of the two evils because the democrats won't oppose him because he is one of theirs. I will not be complicit in evil, neither the lesser nor the greater. "Lesser evil" is for those who believe that voting for things to get worse will help them. Thus decade after decade, our country has slid further off the cliff. Voting either R/D is not going to change anything. Obamacare is really Romneycare. There is no reason to expect Romney to be significantly different from Obama - except that a lot of Democrats who defend Obama would fight him, as they did Bush. Obama is just as much of a warmonger, if not more so, than Romney. If drone strikes on non combatants is not "evil incarnate" what is? If ALL other candidates were given media coverage and invited into the debates, as would happen in a REAL democracy, then I believe the tide could be turned. If, perchance, Stein gets credit for sinking Obama, as Ralph Nader did to Al Gore, The message has to be that the Dems had bettter pay atention to what the Green presidential candidate is saying. When I vote Green I help to insure that the better choice will have a chance to retain ballot status, to grow as a party and to eventually become a voice and a force to be reckoned with. I now feel a lightness of spirit, knowing I am forever free of the burden of evil, lesser or not. > Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 10:02:18 -0700 > From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com > To: gerrygras at earthlink.net > CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Progressive Mag on voting third party > > "The Progressive" is available in electronic format at the King > library, at least according to their electronic catalog. I take a USB > drive to the library and get many articles like that in PDF format. > Occasionally, the system defeats me, but this usually works. > > > Spencer > > > On 8/31/2012 11:55 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > > Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive magazine, > > asks whether or not it is better to vote third party. > > Apparently, he does not answer it. Apparently to read > > the full article, you need to read the (paper) magazine. > > This is only a short except: > > > > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/08/31-10 > > http://www.progressive.org/third-party-dilemma > > > > It says a little bit about Jill Stein. And here are > > the last 2 paragraphs: > > > > ======================== > > > > Or do you?do I??vote for Jill Stein or Rocky Anderson (or choose not > > to vote for President at all, as my predecessor, Erwin Knoll opted to > > do, not wanting to give his consent to the entire system), believing > > that only by staking out a real leftwing alternative are we ever going > > to move people toward the humane, peaceful, green, and egalitarian > > society we seek? > > > > There is no easy way out of this trap, and I?m not going to spring you > > from it. > > > > ======================== > > > > > > I guess it might be a good idea to read the full article, > > to prepare for what liberal Democrats might say. I hope > > to read it at my local library. > > > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Sep 3 08:52:07 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 08:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Re: [SC-SM] Fwd: Protest for Bradley Manning at Obama HQ's nationwide Message-ID: <1346687527.57360.YahooMailClassic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 9/2/12, Gloria Purcell wrote: From: Gloria Purcell Subject: Re: [SC-SM] Fwd: Protest for Bradley Manning at Obama HQ's nationwide To: "Caroline Yacoub" Date: Sunday, September 2, 2012, 7:38 PM Can you pass it on?? I think this would be an especially good event for a strong Green presence... I just re-read this, and it doesn't show our local details. Thursday at 4 p.m., a Bradley Manning protest in front of the Dem. HQ in Menlo Park.? 350 El Camino (near Tesla Motors).? Occupy and World Can't Wait and others are organizing this.? Please everyone come and wear Green Party gear; bring Jill Stein flyers, copies of the Labor Day article, and of course voter reg. forms! The protest will not involve attempts to get arrested, etc.:? strictly a peaceful assembly. Gloria On Sep 2, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Sorry, that's my day for the City of Sunnyvale Disaster Preparedness course. > Caroline > > --- On Sat, 9/1/12, Gloria Purcell wrote: > > From: Gloria Purcell > Subject: [SC-SM] Fwd: Protest for Bradley Manning at Obama HQ's nationwide > To: "GPSMC-D" , "SC SM list" > Date: Saturday, September 1, 2012, 9:51 PM > > I intend to go to this; I also got a phone call from a man Sanda and I met while outside the County "Event Center" protesting.? He is with Occupy RWC, and invites us to come to this peaceful protest on Sept. 6.? Possible we may be invited to speak.? If you come, PLEASE wear your GP stuff and bring Jill Stein materials, and voter reg. forms...just in case!!! > Gloria > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Brian Sonenstein, Firedoglake.com" >> Date: August 30, 2012 2:16:47 PM PDT >> To: Gloria Purcell >> Subject: Protest for Bradley Manning at Obama HQ's nationwide >> Reply-To: act at firedoglake.com >> >> >> RSVP or Donate to Support Sept. 6th Bradley Manning Protest at Obama 2012 Offices >> >> >> >> Dear Gloria, >> >> Don't let the Obama campaign ignore Bradley Manning during next week's convention. >> > > As President Obama accepts his party's nomination on September 6th, Pfc. Bradley Manning supporters will gather at his campaign offices across the country to protest the administration's inhumane treatment and secretive prosecution of the accused WikiLeaks whistleblower. > > We have to seize upon the media spotlight on the Democratic National Convention and President Obama's nomination in Charlotte to continue to raise America's awareness of Bradley and the administration's unparalleled war on whistleblowers. > > Can you attend a protest near you, or chip in $10+ to help us promote the protests with Facebook ads? > > RSVP to your nearest Bradley Manning protest on Sept. 6th at Obama 2012 campaign offices nationwide. > > -- OR -- > > Donate $10+ to help us run Facebook ads recruiting Manning supporters to the protests. > > Kevin Gosztola will arrive at the DNC to cover events and demonstrations just after covering Bradley's pretrial hearing at Ft. Meade this past week. > > Organized by the Bradley Manning Support Network, Afghans For Peace and SF Bay Iraq Veterans Against the War, this protest aims to see demonstrations at Obama 2012 campaign offices nationwide as the president takes the stage in Charlotte to accept his party's nomination. > > President Obama has tried to keep a tight lid on Bradley Manning's situation over the last few years of his administration. The immense government secrecy surrounding the investigation of Manning, WikiLeaks and their supporters -- combined with the mainstream media's non-adversarial relationship with the institutions they purport to keep in check -- has left the American public largely in the dark on the subject. > > But our efforts have already succeeded in getting more journalists involved in covering this story, and with the court martial expected sometime in January, we need to continue to build momentum behind this trial. Your support of this protest at Obama campaign offices across the country will draw attention to Bradley Manning just as the president is making his case for re-election. > > RSVP to your nearest Bradley Manning protest on Sept. 6th at Obama 2012 campaign offices nationwide. > > -- OR -- > > Donate $10+ to help us run Facebook ads recruiting Manning supporters to the protests. > > Thank you for your support, from attending protests, to signing petitions, to calling government officials and contributing to our coverage. We couldn't do this without you. > > In solidarity, > > Brian Sonenstein > Campaign Director, > Firedoglake.com > > Firedoglake is supported entirely by small donations from people like you. > Can you chip in to keep us strong? Click here to contribute. > > This email was sent to: gloria at extragalactic.net > To unsubscribe, go to: http://action.firedoglake.com/unsubscribe > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sc-sm mailing list > sc-sm at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-sm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Sep 3 09:38:29 2012 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:38:29 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: GP RELEASE Green Party: Victory by either Romney or Obama will be a global climate setback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5044DD05.3030208@charter.net> -------- Original Message -------- From: - Mon Sep 03 09:19:12 2012 X-Account-Key: account2 X-UIDL: X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: Received: from imp08 ([10.20.200.8]) by mta52.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120903161833.MKUD14725.mta52.charter.net at imp08> for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 12:18:33 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com ([209.85.160.50]) by imp08 with charter.net id ugJZ1j02f15YFi904gJZnY; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:18:33 -0400 X-Chzlrs: ?? X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=r9Pg9vKeX/UjeSzH0mgCQ+dhdv4QJIISdU+JKKkYCs8= c=1 sm=1 a=4MpF8dKhWy0A:10 a=nDghuxUhq_wA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=DVlMopWZ-8sA:10 a=2NheT-eWAAAA:8 a=dUcwHZVPAAAA:8 a=MsxxK8Q3AAAA:8 a=gHcY9t9zAAAA:8 a=C45QB8EcAAAA:8 a=4iDAs6MBAAAA:8 a=SE31zouOAAAA:8 a=ronr3VGIAAAA:8 a=aSRvjw2BAAAA:8 a=juABVEzsAAAA:8 a=KzaO8LHMAAAA:8 a=xgiziUWsAAAA:8 a=9esRxGnXAAAA:8 a=Bkk-FkfRAAAA:8 a=KSX6KFIzAAAA:8 a=JqEG_dyiAAAA:8 a=qyk2pYupAAAA:8 a=cCAo5gJPWi7BjV3LyI0A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=_9Jin_tURcQA:10 a=8CvWM0vAuUIA:10 a=mLUULJvXajAA:10 a=GFt-qQXVEykA:10 a=5vTYQHU6z1oA:10 a=0Z4k7BelaJcA:10 a=SJRCY-1h6JIA:10 a=nph6dOJPdFgA:10 a=srnfdtEXXFUA:10 a=Rw-uc1sSm8cA:10 a=vK9LGhSKOHUA:10 a=o6WUdEpDrsgA:10 a=rXHP81cdFxEA:10 a=skvHvr-M95UA:10 a=QlU-qzfSgV4A:10 a=titpYXRpaLMA:10 a=sh6PArqQtYdngLzxv5aEQJAsMbE=:19 a=GA-6eV6jHgXvxiqd:21 a=FScYZhjuM8dHKEcP:21 a=/d97NUEAeTdeZv6bir2piA==:117 Received: by pbcmd12 with SMTP id md12so8906777pbc.37 for ; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:18:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=n6aiHxYtjWeH4yqB9j6/Nks8PttsKGuLwxi2+BjS4zU=; b=bAm/i2cAg8HU6rvzWbMNWiYYSr/AeqgH9fAxiy+87+OyDB5w3kkNNeuXbMy2rv35Gb ZPNKQTgapci4pipNnmNOLGo48LzovAsX+ebmDrt5VL8UHEfdDp3xfBSKYPsW+CLkYY6S PzV/X+RnyoMdEzsgMtllCuvbeCSTn2H9bsGPgcfeunDwAxMpsMF6UyDt4i6voHl4z43N dexJQzo7Wk3X1t0g9njf7SLjHTmaeBZu/BHyDoULjD9tiJyZKGzPOQBzws0slESZZhHg KQm+NOae52D8SdiImdwxiTS66DOjaUE9ywfJlCt7594Yv1zdXYA2lVaGto8UxKARkvDQ 7b5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.138.166 with SMTP id qr6mr39032934pbb.69.1346689112825; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.17.233 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:18:32 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: GP RELEASE Green Party: Victory by either Romney or Obama will be a global climate setback From: Green News - DC To: dcsgpnews2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 2012.0.2197 [2437/5246] X-AVG-ID: ID3CAB0421-2CECE59D X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 6.5.1. Score 53 X-AVG-Antispam-Info: 53,3.2,0,e9eaae1bbad1f17a,d41d8cd98f00b204, dcsgpnews10 at gmail.com,dcsgpnews2 at yahoo.com:wrolley at charter.net, RULES_HIT:1:2:355:379:447:461:481:800:857:901:945:946:967:972:973:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1513:1515:1516:1518:1521:1593:1594:1683:1730:1747:1766:1792:1963:2005:2194:2195:2199:2200:2377:2378:2379:2380:2393:2525:2540:2551:2553:2568:2612:2682:2685:2693:2736:2857:2859:2892:2898:2901:2905:2910:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3000:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3154:3355:3636:3770:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4050:4250:4321:4659:5007:6117:6119:6261:7602:7679:7809:7875:7901:7903:8599:8634:8666:8784:8878:8957:8985:8987:9008:9025:9040:9072:9073:9388:9392:9413:10008:10049:10881:11026:11257:11651:11658:12043:12050:12292:12438:12485:12519, 0,RBL:neutral,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:error, Custom_rules:0:1:0 GREEN PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES http://www.gp.org For Immediate Release: Monday, September 3, 2012 Contacts: Scott McLarty, Media Coordinator, 202-904-7614, mclarty at greens.org Starlene Rankin, Media Coordinator, 916-995-3805, starlene at gp.org While Obama and Romney ignore global warming, Green presidential nominee Jill Stein and other Green candidates promote real solutions ? Unless Stein can join the presidential debates, there will be no discussion of fossil fuel consumption, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, hydrofracking, mountaintop detonation mining, and other threats to the environment and public health WASHINGTON, DC -- Green Party candidates and leaders said today that the delay of the Republican National Convention in Tampa and hurricane Isaac's Gulf Coast landfall should remind voters of a worsening crisis that both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama keep ignoring: global climate disruption. Greens expressed alarm over Thursday's news that the Obama Administration has granted Shell Oil approval for dangerous oil drilling in the Arctic Ocean in a fragile region off Alaska, especially when a critical oil-spill containment vessel still awaits certification. ? Andrew Groff, Green candidate for US Senate in Delaware (http://www.andrewgroffforsenate.us): "Unless Green presidential candidate Jill Stein is allowed to participate in the presidential debates, there will be no discussion of what we need to do to curb catastrophic climate change. On one hand, Romney is appeasing the know-nothing extremists and junk-science believers in the GOP who deny human responsibility for global warming. On the other hand, President Obama has proposed minimal steps to deal with global warming -- and then undercuts them by surrendering to the corporate energy lobby, supporting off-shore drilling in US coastal waters, repeating the myth of 'clean coal', and allowing hydrofracking and mountaintop detonation mining to continue. All of these are immediate threats to public health and the environment and contribute to the fossil-fuel consumption that's pumping more and more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. The effects are already evident in the drought and growing instability of weather patterns in the US." (See also "Climate Change: An Information Statement of the American Meteorological Society," August 20, 2012, http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2012climatechange.html) ? Martin Pleasant, Green candidate for US Senate in Tennessee (http://www.martinpleasant.com): "Jill Stein and other Green candidates are running on a platform that will put millions of Americans to work and restore economic stability by combatting global warming with new jobs in conservation, developing new and safe energy technologies, retrofitting buildings and homes and redesigning public infrastructure for energy efficiency, expanding public transportation to reduce car traffic, a carbon tax as an incentive to promote safe and clean energy, and other ideas. Obama and Romney keep talking about independence from foreign oil. The real problem is America's addiction to fossil fuels, regardless of where they come from. Only Dr. Stein is offering solutions." (More on Dr. Stein's 'Green New Deal': http://www.jillstein.org/green_new_deal) ? Ursula Rozum, Green candidate for US House in New York's District 24 (http://www.ursulaforcongress.com), author of "Solve climate crisis to make economy humane," Syracuse Post Standard, April 20, 2012 (http://www.greenpapers.net/?p=240): "The Obama Administration has turned out to be a disaster on the global warming front. He wants to banish the 2C goal (keeping the world's average temperature from rising more than two degrees Centigrade) from international negotiations on climate change (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19161799). President Obama is also promoting the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), a new international trade pact that will serve powerful corporate lobbies by overrriding environmental protections and allowing more logging, drilling, mining, and transportation of raw materials in the Pacific rim, as well as weakening labor rights and imposing more restrictive intellectual property rules. TPP was negotiated in secret and is supported by Mitt Romney. Greens oppose it. There will be no discussion of these enormously important issues in the Obama vs. Romney debate. A victory for either candidate on Nov. 6 will spell more disaster for our planet." See also: Green Party Platform on Climate Change http://www.gp.org/committees/platform/2012/ecological-sustainability.php#ClimateChange "Green Party to Obama: Whether foreign or domestic, it's time for America to cut oil and gas from our energy diet" Green Party press release, January 31, 2012 http://www.gp.org/press/pr-national.php?ID=474 "Solar Utopia: Another future is possible!" With articles and essays by David Schwartzman, DC Statehood Green Party candidate for the US Senate, Professor Emeritus, Department of Biology, Howard University http://www.solarutopia.org "Framing in the context of fracking" By Cecile Lawrence, Green Papers, August 29, 2012 http://www.greenpapers.net/?p=340 Green Party Eco-Action Committee http://www.gp.org/committees/ecoaction/index.php "Climate change is here ? and worse than we thought" By James E. Hansen, Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, The Washington Post, August 3, 2012 http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/climate-change-is-here--and-worse-than-we-thought/2012/08/03/6ae604c2-dd90-11e1-8e43-4a3c4375504a_story.html "Who?s afraid of the big, bad drought? Romney and Obama say they want to help farmers, but refuse to mention the cause of the drought that's hurting them" By Andrew Leonard, Salon.com, August 10, 2012 http://www.salon.com/2012/08/10/whos_afraid_of_the_big_bad_drought/ "The TPP & the Environment: A Behind-Closed-Doors Deal for the 1%" Citizens Trade Campaign http://www.citizenstrade.org/ctc/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/TransPacificEnvironment.pdf "Obama Trade Document Leaked, Revealing New Corporate Powers And Broken Campaign Promises" By Zach Carter, The Huffington Post, June 13, 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/obama-trade-document-leak_n_1592593.html MORE INFORMATION Green Party of the United States http://www.gp.org 202-319-7191 ? 2012 Green Party Presidential Nominating Convention, July 12-15 in Baltimore, Md. http://www.gpconvention2012.com ? Green candidate database and campaign information: http://www.gp.org/elections.shtml ? News Center http://www.gp.org/newscenter.shtml ? Speakers Bureau http://www.gp.org/speakers ? Ballot Access Page http://www.gp.org/2012/ballot-access.html ? Video Page http://www.gp.org/video/index.php ? Green Papers http://www.greenpapers.net/ ? Google+ http://www.gp.org/google ? Twitter http://twitter.com/gpus ? Livestream Channel http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus ? GP-TV Twitter page http://www.gp.org/twitter ? Facebook page http://www.gp.org/facebook Green Pages: The official publication of record of the Green Party of the United States http://gp.org/greenpages-blog ~ END ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Mon Sep 3 19:58:49 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 02:58:49 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [gpca-forum] Fwd: CCC Webinar: Planning for Elect ion Day 9/4 Message-ID: <20120903.195849.1149.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> REMINDER: This call is tomorrow night -- Tuesday, September 4th from 6 PM to 7 PM PDT. Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America http://www.jillstein.org/ ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Valerie D. Face" Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 04:01:10 GMT To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [gpca-forum] Fwd: CCC Webinar: Planning for Election Day 9/4 Hi everyone, This discussion sounds like it would be helpful for those of us who will volunteer for the Jill Stein campaign (and/or the Rob Means campaign, if we end up endorsing him, and/or the next Laura Wells campaign, etc.). The web page for the GPUS's Coordinated Campaign Committee is: http://www.gp.org/committees/campaign/index.php On that page they have a link for folks to sign up using the following form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHZ2dllDc2tyV3lhS3FUcTZKX3kwUWc6MQ#gid=0 Best regards, Valerie Face ~*~*~*~ Town Cats of Morgan Hill will have discounted adoption fees from August 10 to August 19. See http://www.towncats.org for details. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Sanda Everette Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 09:34:41 -0700 To: GPCA Forum Cc: Delegates from GPCA to GPUS Subject: [gpca-forum] Fwd: CCC Webinar: Planning for Election Day 9/4 Share with campaigns and campaigners. Sanda Writing from tiny communication device Begin forwarded message: > > The Coordinated Campaign Committee invites you to our first monthly webinar... > > PLANNING FOR ELECTION DAY > Tuesday, September 4th, 9-10 PM Eastern > > This webinar is designed for candidates, and those active in Green campaigns, to learn more about campaign strategy. This particular session will focus on: > > * preparing to have an effective presence at the polls > * best material distribution strategies > * how to talk to potential voters > * targeting constituencies > * and use of volunteers for things such as door knocking and phone banking > > This call is also ideal for those coordinating local efforts on the Stein/Honkala campaign. > > This webinar will be led by CCC member and Green Officeholder Jesse Townley. Read more about Jesse below. > > Jesse Townley is an elected member of the Berkeley Rent Board, which administers the city's rent control ordinance. He was first elected to the Rent Board in 2008, and re-elected to a 4-year post as the highest vote-getter in 2010. He ran for Berkeley City Council unsuccessfully in 2004 in a 3-way race, and was the Volunteer Coordinator for Aimee Allison's 2005 campaign for Oakland City Council. He's also volunteered on umpteen campaigns doing everything from knocking on doors, making phone calls, and setting up fundraisers. > > And save the date for the October call -- GETTING OUT THE VOTE -- Tuesday, October 2nd, 9 PM Eastern. > ______________________________ > > For other information about the Coordinating Committee, see: > http://gp.org/committees/nc/ _______________________________________________ gpca-forum mailing list gpca-forum at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50456ed5992d56ed41758st01vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 10:53:43 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 10:53:43 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: URGENT: Tell Google TV not to censor our ads! In-Reply-To: <5045601020efb_ec4ed3938203f0@app3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <5045601020efb_ec4ed3938203f0@app3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <50464027.3050304@earthlink.net> FYI, Google is censoring Jill Stein ads. Gerry -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Ben Manski Subject: URGENT: Tell Google TV not to censor our ads! Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:57:36 +0000 Size: 12208 URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 16:44:59 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:44:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Funny Video Message-ID: <5046927B.5080403@earthlink.net> A funny video with a weatherwoman telling it like it is. I laughed a lot. A commenter says it was over the top... Don't miss the 7 day forecast! http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/09/04/792061/must-see-video-what-if-a-tv-weather-forecaster-told-the-truth/ Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 22:34:36 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:34:36 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Google relents! But our deadline is Thursday. Read why. In-Reply-To: <50469fb0941a1_2b415c312c16356@app4.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <50469fb0941a1_2b415c312c16356@app4.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <5046E46C.1060807@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Ben Manski Subject: Google relents! But our deadline is Thursday. Read why. Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 00:41:20 +0000 Size: 13522 URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Wed Sep 5 11:52:26 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Google relents! But our deadline is Thursday. Read why. In-Reply-To: <5046a04a9214b_25c9cd693c668d7@app3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <5046a04a9214b_25c9cd693c668d7@app3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <1346871146.81866.YahooMailNeo@web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Ben Manski >To: Drew Johnson >Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:43 PM >Subject: Google relents! But our deadline is Thursday. Read why. > > > >Dear Drew, > >Great news!?As reported just now in The New York Times, thanks to a potent combination of public pressure, media interest, and federal law,?our friends at Google TV Ads have relented?and our?"Enough!" TV ad campaign is now running nationally,?right during the Democratic National Convention.? >You can see all four of our ads,?beginning with?"Enough!"?and then continuing with three distinct versions of?"What Green Means"?by clicking here.?But we still need your support to keep them on the air.?Please donate now!? > >The timing is vital. The primary season ends this Thursday, September 6th.?This means that you only have until this Thursday to get your contributions matched, dollar for dollar, up to $250, with federal matching funds. And this means that you only have until September 6th to donate the maximum allowable contribution of $2500. > >Time is running short for another reason.?Federal law requires that our matching funds monies be used in the primaries, by Thursday, and this means that we must pay for our cable and TV ads right now.?Your donation right now makes all the difference. > >We've raised $40,000 for these ads.?If we succeed in raising another $40,000 (for a total of $80K) by Thursday, our ads will run in college town media markets from the Pacific to the Mississippi to the Atlantic.?If we raise another $80,000 (for a total of $120K), we'll have viewership in medium sized cities of population 500,000 to 2 million. And if you help us raise another $160,000, we'll be on in at least a couple major metropolitan areas.?The more money we raise, the higher chance that YOUR community will see one of these ads. > >See the graph below?to get a sense of how many college town, medium city, and major metro media markets we can reach at each level of fundraising.?And please donate right now:?http://www.JillStein.org/donate >Please donate right now:?http://www.JillStein.org/donate.?The more we raise, the more ads people will see, and the more we break through the noise of the political conventions.?Let's crash the conventions!? >________________________________ > >Please take an immediate step by making a donation:?http://www.jillstein.org/donate Authorized and paid for by Jill Stein for President >PO Box 260217, Madison, WI 53726-0217 >http://www.JillStein.org%20 or Facebook. >-=-=- > >Created with NationBuilder, the essential toolkit leaders. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 5 17:22:55 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:22:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Bill Moyers: Challenging Power, Changing Politics (with Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5047ECDF.1000503@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Sanda Everette Subject: [gpca-forum] Bill Moyers: Challenging Power, Changing Politics (with Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:32:55 -0600 Size: 6410 URL: From cbrouillet at igc.org Thu Sep 6 11:31:15 2012 From: cbrouillet at igc.org (Carol Brouillet) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:31:15 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] 9/11 Truth Film Festival 2012 & more... Message-ID: Dear activists, I have my hands full working on our annual 9/11 Film Festival. I'll also be going to Chicago for the annual Monetary Reform Conference, as well as to visit family, and will miss Jill Stein, but I hope Jules can help with the event, all the contact info we obtained from our organizing efforts. We also decided to donate the cash left in my campaign account to Jill Stein. Hopefully that will happen before her deadline tonight (I think we had $283 dollars or so...) Here's a list of our upcoming events and a review of the film we'll be premiering, which is quite relevant to the world situation- a look at psychopaths.... entitled - I Am Fishead... Carol 1) Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance Meeting, Thursday,September 6, 2012 - 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm, BFUU, Berkeley 2) 9/11 Film Festival Sunday Freeway Blogging, Sunday, September 9, 2012 - 12:00 noon, I-80 Overpass South of University in Berkeley (Addison St.) 3) 9/11 Truth Film Festival 2012 - An Exploration of Deep Events, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 - 2:00 pm - 11:00 pm, Grand Lake Theater, 3200 Grand Avenue, Oakland 4) Take Back Gandhi's 9/11 @ the Gandhi Statue, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 - 6:00 pm - 7:30 pm, Gandhi Statue, South end of the Ferry Building on the Embarcadero at Market, San Francisco 5) Sacramento 9/11 Truth Meeting, Monday, 17 September 2012 - 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm, Perko's Cafe, 925 - 3rd Street, Sacramento 6) Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance Meeting, Thursday, 20 September 2012 - 6:00 pm, Fireside Room, BFUU, 1924 Cedar Street (at Bonita Avenue), Berkeley 7) Sunday Monthly Freeway Blogging, Sunday, 30 September 2012 - 12:00 noon, I-80 Overpass South of University in Berkeley (Addison St.) Please send additional events to Carol, cbrouillet at igc.org for postings on our calendar of events at http://www.communitycurrency.org and http://sf911truth.org/?page_id=19 1) ) Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance Meeting Thursday, September 6, 2012 - 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Fireside Room, BFUU, 1924 Cedar Street (at Bonita Avenue), Berkeley Our regular third Thursday Meeting. We'll be working on plans/outreach for our upcoming film festival. The room is part of the Berkeley Fellowship of Unitarian Universalist complex that has held many outstanding social justice forums. Entrance is on Bonita, go through the gate up the stairs. There are many buses (the 15 runs on MLKJr.) and on Shattuck. Get off near Cedar (Bonita runs parallel to Shattuck and MLKJr.) It is between the North Berkeley and Downtown Berkeley BART Stations- about a 12 to 15 minute flat easy walk from those stations. 2) Sunday 9/11 Film Festival Freeway Blogging Sunday, September 9, 2012 - 12:00 noon I-80 Overpass South of University in Berkeley (Addison St.) This is a great way to get the word out to massive numbers - and to remind yourself and others that we are not alone. We meet on the Berkeley pedestrian overpass and display banners of peace, truth, justice, and accountability to all the traffic passing underneath. We have a few huge banners ("9/11 Truth for Peace", and "Expose the 9/11 Cover-Up" for example), so all you need to do is come out with your positive attitudes and mingle with fellow activists. 3) 9/11 Truth Film Festival 2012 - An Exploration of Deep Events Tuesday, 11 September 2012 - 2:00 pm - 11:30 pm Grand Lake Theater, 3200 Grand Avenue, Oakland, California Tuesday, September 11, 2:00 PM - 11:30 PM 9/11 was the most audacious false flag of all time, but it also fits into a long historical pattern of what this year's film festival's featured speaker Peter Dale Scott has termed "deep events." Scott defines deep events as those that are "systematically ignored or falsified in the mainstream media and public consciousness." At our eighth annual 9/11 Truth Film Festival we will explore deep events related to 9/11, such as the Oklahoma City Murrah building bombing of 1995, revealed in the new film A Noble Lie. One of the film's producers, Chris Emery, will be joining us to introduce the film. We will examine questions regarding the perpetrators of tragedies such as 9/11 and Oklahoma City in the new film Fishead, which not only explores the roles of high functioning psychopaths in our governmental and corporate institutions, but also illuminates paths to solutions. And as we have done in all our annual 9/11 film festivals, we will feature the latest 9/11 films, including highlights from The Toronto Hearings on 9/11 - Uncovering Ten Years of Deception, a DVD that documents the speakers from last year's historic event; and the most recent, shorter version of AE 9/11 Truth's remarkable new film 9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out. 9/11 Truth author Mark Gaffney will be joining us to present evidence from his new book Black 9/11 - Money, Motive, and Technology. Mark is also the author of The 9/11 Mystery Plane - And the Vanishing of America. Professors Peter Phillips and Mickey Huff of Project Censored will join us again to look at the mainstream corporate media's role in covering up deep events and marginalizing those that work to expose them. We are again honored to have Bonnie Faulkner host of KPFA's Guns and Butter radio show serving as MC. The 9/11 Truth Film Festival, which will be held once again at the historic Grand Lake Theater in Oakland, is being produced by the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance http://www.sf911truth.org. 9/11/12 Film Festival Schedule Start times Film / subject title Intro or speakerLength 2:00 9/11?Experts Speak Out AE 9/11 Truth 59 min 3:00 Oklahoma City - A Noble Lie 120 min Oklahoma City Chris Emery 15 min 5:17 Judi Bari updates her case 15 min 5:33 Judi Bari case Dennis Cunningham 10 min 5:43 Edit of: The Toronto HearingsKen Jenkins (intro)66 min 6:51 (Book) Black 9/11 Mark Gaffney30 min 7:23 MLK - An Act of State (Zwicker mini doc) 6 min 7:30 Media coverups Mickey Huff 15 min 7:45 Media coverups Peter Phillips 15 min 8:00 The Secret Government (1987)Bill Moyers 12 min 8:12 Deep Events Peter Dale Scott30 min 8:44 I Am Fishead 78 min 10:03 7/7 Ripple Effect 2 (excerpts of 120 min) (Regarding parking situation at the Grand Lake...http://www.renaissancerialto.com/masters/grandl~1/GLparking.htm The City of Oakland no longer provides free parking spaces in the lot under the 580 freeway. Portions of the lot are reserved for permit parking until 6pm Monday - Friday. Please read signs carefully and park accordingly. Free spaces can also be located in the neighborhood surrounding the theater. In the evening, metered street spaces are free after kiosk metering ends at 6pm. There are metered parking lots and metered street parking all around the theater. Kiosk metered parking spaces are in operation from 8:00 am - 6:00 pm Monday - Saturday (check parking kiosks for details). The current rate is $2.00 per hour. 4) Take Back Gandhi's 9/11 @ the Gandhi Statue Tuesday, 11 September 2012 - 6:00pm - 7:30pm Gandhi Statue, South end of the Ferry Building on the Embarcadero at Market, San Francisco ANNUAL GANDHI SATYAGRAHA POEMS & PERFORMANCE FOR PEACE PEACE FOR KEEPS INVITES YOU TO PARTICIPATE IN A CELEBRATION OF GANDHI DECLARING SATYAGRAHA NONVIOLENT DIRECT ACTION 9/11 is the 106th anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi declaring Satyagraha nonviolent direct action in South Africa to protest oppression of Indian workers there and was the inspiration for the Civil Rights and Anti-War Movements. Celebrate peace, love, service, justice, passive resistance, non-violent direct action, civil disobedience, anarchism. Bring garlands for the statue and cushions, food and drink to share BRING THE KIDS, GRANDKIDS, THE WHOLE BLOCK! Let justice roll down like waters and righteousness as a mighty stream. Martin Luther King, Jr. Contact Arnold Passman, pazmopa(at)yahoo.com (510) 845-5481 dmndv(at)hotmail.com (415) 240-0286 5) Sacramento 9/11 Truth Meeting Monday, 17 September 2012 - 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm Perko's Cafe, 925 - 3rd Street, Sacramento Sacramento 9/11 Truth meets on the third Monday of each month. The meetings are open to the public. The meeting will be held in the conference room. (This is a new restaurant located at the old Denny's Restaurant location where the group has met historically for years and is located at the corner of 3rd and "J" Streets.) Info: David Kimball (916)372-8433 afreedmind at yahoo.com or truth.priority at gmail.com 6) Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance Meeting Thursday, 20 September 2012 - 6:00pm Fireside Room, BFUU, 1924 Cedar Street (at Bonita Avenue), Berkeley Third Thursday regular meeting of the Northern california 9/11 Truth Alliance. The room is part of the Berkeley Fellowship of Unitarian Universalist complex that has held many outstanding social justice forums. Entrance is on Bonita, go through the gate up the stairs. There are many buses (the 15 runs on MLKJr.) and on Shattuck. Get off near Cedar (Bonita runs parallel to Shattuck and MLKJr.) It is between the North Berkeley and Downtown Berkeley BART Stations- about a 12 to 15 minute flat easy walk from those stations. 7) Sunday Monthly Freeway Blogging Sunday, 30 September 2012 - 12:00 noon, I-80 Overpass South of University in Berkeley (Addison St.) This is a great way to get the word out to massive numbers - and to remind yourself and others that we are not alone. We meet on the Berkeley pedestrian overpass and display banners of peace, truth, justice, and accountability to all the traffic passing underneath. We have a few huge banners ("9/11 Truth for Peace", and "Expose the 9/11 Cover-Up" for example), so all you need to do is come out with your positive attitudes and mingle with fellow activists. http://www.meetup.com/sftruthaction/events/80895362/ http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/09/05/18721016.php Movie Review of www.fisheadmovie.com. There is also a Facebook page at- www.facebook.com/fisheadmovie I Am Fishead is scheduled to premiere in Oakland on September 11, 2012 , from 7:44 pm ? 10:03 pm at the Grand Lake Theater, 3200 Grand Avenue in Oakland, as part of the 9/11 Truth Film Festival. The Festival begins at 2:00 pm and concludes at 11:30 pm and includes numerous films and speakers. It is a benefit for the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance, for the full schedule of films and speakers see the website sf911truth.org. http://www.fisheadmovie.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 14:45:16 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Work opportunity Message-ID: <1346967916.33111.YahooMailClassic@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 9/6/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: Work opportunity To: dbwall at earthlink.net, mkmusic03 at aol.com, freepalestin at dslextreme.com Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 9:34 AM Hello, ? I am formulating plans to sell 2 versions of my Peacemovies.com booklet door to door in San Jose. I would be selling Peacemovies.com 2011 and Peacemovies.com 2012 for $7 each, no tax charged on top of the $7.? According to my online poll on my web site 50% more people (both percentage wise and absolute numbers) would be willing to pay $7 instead of $5 for my booklets.? So that is why I have bumped the price up to $7.? This phenomenon of people willing to pay more was first mentioned to me by an "Internet guru" (snake oil salesman) who claimed that having a price that ends in 7 gets more people to buy.? I guess that is one factoid from those people that is actually true. ? I e-mailed my San Jose city council member and they wrote back that there is no permit or process for a permit required to sell door to door in San Jose.? There is a police permit required to sell from a table on a street corner however.? If you do decide to work for me, keep in mind that neighboring areas (such as Santa Clara) may require a permit and even a police issued ID badge at a cost of a few hundred dollars to sell door to door. So please stay within San Jose city limits. ? The temp agency I used for payroll for my store back in 2006 (Josephine's) confirmed that they would be willing to take me on again as a client, having employees go door to door relatively unsupervised. ? I would pay the employees as follows: The minimum quota required to be sold per hour to stay indefinitely with the company is 3 booklets per hour. Depending on the size of the booklet, I would just barely break even on gross expenses (cost of production plus payroll, not including office rent) at this level. There should be no problem getting 1.5 customers per hour to buy 2 booklets each.?(50% of respondents on my web site said they would buy a booklet for $7, as opposed to only 35% for $5.)?The base rate is $10 per hour, plus $2 per booklet for every booklet sold at a rate of more than 3 booklets per hour for the entire shift. ? I am going with a temp agency so that payroll, workman's comp insurance and their rinky dink health plan are all covered by the temp agency.? Having you come on board as a regular employee would be way too expensive as I would have to buy a year's worth of workman's comp insurance in advance, which would totally bust my budget.? I'm also not going to offer an independent contractor position as I don't plan on getting liability insurance for my operation and because of the fact that independent contractors can't get unemployment or workman's comp if anything bad should happen to them or to the company. ? Please let me know your level of interest in this project.? I may be ready to start going door to door sometime between January 2013 and May 2013, depending on how fast I finish compiling the two booklets and how fast I'm able to save up an initial amount to cover the first few weeks of payroll. I also have to rent an office, or at least have a space that has a conference room and a mail drop available,?as I can't legally operate my business with employees out of my home. ? Thank you. ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking 408-914-2751 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 16:26:00 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: We have just 12 hours In-Reply-To: <5048d26bc3e42_33c6121413869153@app3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <5048d26bc3e42_33c6121413869153@app3.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <1346973960.47843.YahooMailNeo@web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Dr. Jill Stein >To: Drew Johnson >Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 9:42 AM >Subject: We have just 12 hours > > > >Dear Drew, > >In just twelve hours, at midnight tonight, the 2012 presidential primary season ends, and the general election begins. We didn't decide this calendar, the federal government did. But it applies to us too, and it means that we need you to make a donation before midnight tonight. > >Help us keep our primary campaign out of debt. Help us launch into the general election season with momentum! Please donate now. > >Cheri and I are in the streets of Charlotte right now with the March for Our Lives, organized by the Poor People's Economic Human Rights Campaign. Although it's been hot and rainy here, there are many wonderful people from all parts of the Americas in the streets with us. > >We know that inside the corporate-sponsored convention hall, there are many glowing speeches and lots of well-funded spin. But out here, the reality remains that nearly half of Americans live in or near poverty. > >The vast majority of young people don't have health care, are shut out of college, or are weighed down by the chains of student debt, and nearly a quarter of our young adults are unemployed. Meanwhile, the climate crisis is getting worse by the month, and the White House is doing nothing meaningful to reverse it. > >Cheri and I are out here with the marchers, and we're talking with the media. We'll be on the national Moyers show tomorrow night. But we need your donations, right now, in the next 12 hours, to put our TV ads on the air so that we can continue to crash the airwaves with our message that there is a solution -- a Green New Deal -- that a Green president will deliver. Please donate now. > >And please remember -- we only get matching funds for donations to our primary campaign, not for the general election. So donate now to double your money, up to $250.? > >Thank you, >Jill Stein >________________________________ > >Please take an immediate step by making a donation:?http://www.jillstein.org/donate Authorized and paid for by Jill Stein for President >PO Box 260217, Madison, WI 53726-0217 >http://www.JillStein.org%20 or Facebook. >-=-=- > >Created with NationBuilder, the essential toolkit leaders. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 16:30:28 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Work opportunity In-Reply-To: <1346967916.33111.YahooMailClassic@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1346967916.33111.YahooMailClassic@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1346974228.84314.YahooMailNeo@web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I'd like a copy of each when they're available.? I love this!? Thanks for doing it John. Green is GO! Drew >________________________________ > From: John Thielking >To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2012 2:45 PM >Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Work opportunity > > > > >--- On Thu, 9/6/12, John Thielking wrote: > > >>From: John Thielking >>Subject: Work opportunity >>To: dbwall at earthlink.net, mkmusic03 at aol.com, freepalestin at dslextreme.com >>Date: Thursday, September 6, 2012, 9:34 AM >> >> >>Hello, >>? >>I am formulating plans to sell 2 versions of my Peacemovies.com booklet door to door in San Jose. I would be selling Peacemovies.com 2011 and Peacemovies.com 2012 for $7 each, no tax charged on top of the $7.? According to my online poll on my web site 50% more people (both percentage wise and absolute numbers) would be willing to pay $7 instead of $5 for my booklets.? So that is why I have bumped the price up to $7.? This phenomenon of people willing to pay more was first mentioned to me by an "Internet guru" (snake oil salesman) who claimed that having a price that ends in 7 gets more people to buy.? I guess that is one factoid from those people that is actually true. >>? >>I e-mailed my San Jose city council member and they wrote back that there is no permit or process for a permit required to sell door to door in San Jose.? There is a police permit required to sell from a table on a street corner however.? If you do decide to work for me, keep in mind that neighboring areas (such as Santa Clara) may require a permit and even a police issued ID badge at a cost of a few hundred dollars to sell door to door. So please stay within San Jose city limits. >>? >>The temp agency I used for payroll for my store back in 2006 (Josephine's) confirmed that they would be willing to take me on again as a client, having employees go door to door relatively unsupervised. >>? >>I would pay the employees as follows: The minimum quota required to be sold per hour to stay indefinitely with the company is 3 booklets per hour. Depending on the size of the booklet, I would just barely break even on gross expenses (cost of production plus payroll, not including office rent) at this level. There should be no problem getting 1.5 customers per hour to buy 2 booklets each.?(50% of respondents on my web site said they would buy a booklet for $7, as opposed to only 35% for $5.)?The base rate is $10 per hour, plus $2 per booklet for every booklet sold at a rate of more than 3 booklets per hour for the entire shift. >>? >>I am going with a temp agency so that payroll, workman's comp insurance and their rinky dink health plan are all covered by the temp agency.? Having you come on board as a regular employee would be way too expensive as I would have to buy a year's worth of workman's comp insurance in advance, which would totally bust my budget.? I'm also not going to offer an independent contractor position as I don't plan on getting liability insurance for my operation and because of the fact that independent contractors can't get unemployment or workman's comp if anything bad should happen to them or to the company. >>? >>Please let me know your level of interest in this project.? I may be ready to start going door to door sometime between January 2013 and May 2013, depending on how fast I finish compiling the two booklets and how fast I'm able to save up an initial amount to cover the first few weeks of payroll. I also have to rent an office, or at least have a space that has a conference room and a mail drop available,?as I can't legally operate my business with employees out of my home. >>? >>Thank you. >>? >>Sincerely, >>? >>John Thielking >>408-914-2751 >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 20:53:25 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CiviCRM for building our party and our web site Message-ID: <1346990005.90218.YahooMailNeo@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> When I was working for the Kent Mesplay for President campaign I started to get familiarized with CiviCRM offered by CampaignFoundations.com (originally started by our very own Cameron Spitzer with Hugh Esco.? Now run by Hugh Esco). The CRM stands for "Constituent Relations Management" and what it is is an opensource database of members and donors for campaigns, parties and nonprofits.? Its pretty cool and CRM is how elected officials and political campaigns get their job done.? Carol Brouillet used CiviCRM for her campaign. With it we can retain info on Greens and Green-leaning voters and citizen supporters.? When we are telephone banking for Jill Stein and Rob Means we can record which people donated and requested more info.? So instead of just writing things down on pieces of paper and then losing them we enter them into the database and start to operate like a serious political party. Furthermore CiviCRM is integrated with the Drupal CMS (Content Management System)? which makes it easy to manage content for your web site and have it look really good without everyone working on it needing tto have sophisticated web knowledge.? Most anyone after familiarization can work with the blog and the event notification system, etc. Cameron tried to get us started on this a few years back, but we just didn't get going on learning how to set it up. So I'm proposing that we hire CampaignFoundations.com to host a CiviCRM site for our county party.? Its $39 / month for the basic service (with $50 setup fee).? I talked to my the Council members, Merriam and Spencer about it today and they were in favor.? So I donated the $89 startup fee and now our site is getting set up.? I'll let you know more as it develops. Green is GO! Drew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 16:29:48 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 16:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] David Cobb on KPFA Message-ID: <1347060588.83717.YahooMailNeo@web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> 2004 Green Party Presidential Nominee and leader of Move to Amend David Cobb is on Davey D's program on KPFA right now telling it like it is at the Demopublican National Convention -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Fri Sep 7 18:55:17 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 01:55:17 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Coastal (and creek) Cleanup Day is September 15 Message-ID: <20120907.185517.13456.2@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, The 27th Annual California Coastal Cleanup Day is Saturday, September 15, and the website with information for Santa Clara County events is http://www.cleanacreek.org/. I have signed up for an event and plan to wear my Jill Stein t-shirt. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504aa5c1905bc25c13345st01vuc From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 22:29:58 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: CiviCRM for building our party and our web site In-Reply-To: <20120907.183142.13456.1@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120907.183142.13456.1@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <1347082198.50534.YahooMailNeo@web124502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thanks Valerie.? I hope you and others will participate in using our database, blogging and other features.? As you and I've experienced its a fairly approachable system. Green is GO! Drew ? ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Valerie D. Face >To: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com >Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 6:31 PM >Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] CiviCRM for building our party and our web site > >Great!? I think this is definitely a step in the right direction. > >Valerie > > >~*~*~*~ >Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America >Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 > > >When I was working for the Kent Mesplay for President campaign I started to get familiarized with CiviCRM offered by CampaignFoundations.com (originally started by our very own Cameron Spitzer with Hugh Esco.? Now run by Hugh Esco). The CRM stands for "Constituent Relations Management" and what it is is an opensource database of members and donors for campaigns, parties and nonprofits.? Its pretty cool and CRM is how elected officials and political campaigns get their job done.? Carol Brouillet used CiviCRM for her campaign. > > >With it we can retain info on Greens and Green-leaning voters and citizen supporters.? When we are telephone banking for Jill Stein and Rob Means we can record which people donated and requested more info.? So instead of just writing things down on pieces of paper and then losing them we enter them into the database and start to operate like a serious political party. > > >Furthermore CiviCRM is integrated with the Drupal CMS (Content Management System)? which makes it easy to manage content for your web site and have it look really good without everyone working on it needing tto have sophisticated web knowledge.? Most anyone after familiarization can work with the blog and the event notification system, etc. > > >Cameron tried to get us started on this a few years back, but we just didn't get going on learning how to set it up. > > >So I'm proposing that we hire CampaignFoundations.com to host a CiviCRM site for our county party.? Its $39 / month for the basic service (with $50 setup fee).? I talked to my the Council members, Merriam and Spencer about it today and they were in favor.? So I donated the $89 startup fee and now our site is getting set up.? I'll let you know more as it develops. > > >Green is GO! > > >Drew > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Sat Sep 8 00:14:50 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 00:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] David Cobb on KPFA In-Reply-To: <1347060588.83717.YahooMailNeo@web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1347060588.83717.YahooMailNeo@web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1347088490.51272.YahooMailNeo@web124504.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> David Cobb starts at 19:48 and talks for about 10 minutes http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/84082 The next show was excellent also with Greg Pallast on election stealing by the major parties, especially the RepubliCons: http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/84083 Green is GO! Drew ? ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 >________________________________ > From: Drew >To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 4:29 PM >Subject: [GPSCC-chat] David Cobb on KPFA > > >2004 Green Party Presidential Nominee and leader of Move to Amend David Cobb is on Davey D's program on KPFA right now telling it like it is at the Demopublican National Convention > >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Sat Sep 8 00:12:08 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:12:08 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Archive page for Bill Moyers show with Sanders, Stein and Honkala Message-ID: <20120908.001208.18345.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, Here's the archive page for the Bill Moyers & Company Show, "Challenging Power, Changing Politics," described as, "Bill discusses the power of independent thinking with Senator Bernie Sanders and Green Party candidates Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala." http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-show-challenging-power-changing-politics/ It has video and a full transcript. This is also scheduled to air on KQED radio (88.5 FM) today (Sat. 9/8) at 2 PM. I haven't watched/heard/read this yet, but it's on my to-do list for this weekend... Cheers, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ Doctor's #1 Belly Fat Rx Trusted Doctor Reveals His #1 Way to Slash Stubborn FAT. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504af0d0d65af70d01f35st02vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 8 16:05:05 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:05:05 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CURBing jails - Tuesday Message-ID: <504BCF21.2020501@earthlink.net> FYI, There will be a meeting of the San Mateo County Board of Supervisors at the Redwood City Courthouse on Tuesday, 9/11 at 9AM to discuss whether or not to build a new jail at a cost of $160,000,000 up front plus $40,000,000 / year. Some activists are opposing the new jail: http://curbprisonspending.org/?p=1868 . Orgs opposed to the jail include Occupy Redwood City, ACLU, AFSC, IVAW, NLG, Occupy San Jose, and many others. I'm no expert on this subject, but I do think that we have too many people in prison, and think that a new jail is probably not a good idea. Gerry From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 8 17:52:39 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:52:39 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill on Bill Moyers show Message-ID: <504BE857.9010700@sbcglobal.net> I just watched it. She's terrific, she gave a wonderful performance. It is inspiring. Jim Doyle From vdf at juno.com Sat Sep 8 19:14:32 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:14:32 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein Buttons (was Re: Coastal (and creek) Cleanup D ay is September 15) Message-ID: <20120908.191432.4722.2@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Hi Caroline, If we're talking about something like a button making party where a few of us assemble buttons from nicely printed paper and button parts, I might be up for that if the timing works. It would be fun. If we're talking about my designing a button, no thanks. I'm not an artist and it wouldn't be a good use of my time. Besides, I already like the buttons the campaign has, and in my opinion folks should support the campaign by buying some. Of course, if folks really don't like the current design I see no problem with coming up with a new one (and generously sharing the design and any proceeds with the campaign), but I'm not the person for that job. For those who didn't know, Jill Stein's campaign has excellent large (3" diameter) buttons, and they're only 50 cents each (sold in packs of 5 for $2.50)! To see the campaign's buttons: 1) Go to http://www.jillstein.org/ 2) Click on "Get Stuff" 3) Click the link that says "Click here to get your Jill Stein for President stuff" 4) There you will see the current merchandise, including the buttons. Click each item for details. You can order online OR send the campaign a check payable to "Jill Stein for President". The address is: Jill Stein for President PO Box 260217 Madison, WI 53726-0217 If you're sending them a check, be very clear about your order (what you want, how many, size/s if applicable). Make sure you order the minimum required amount for the item (e.g., a pack of 5 buttons, not just 1 button). I got my t-shirt by sending the campaign a check, so I know that the check method works. There is NO additional shipping charge! Best wishes, Valerie Please note: message attached ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504bfbd4ec44b7bd45794st03vuc -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Caroline Yacoub Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Coastal (and creek) Cleanup Day is September 15 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Size: 7819 URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Sep 8 21:21:50 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:21:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrations by party in Santa Clara County Message-ID: <504C195E.7090207@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Jim Doyle went (twice) to the Office of the Registrar of Voters for Santa Clara County to get the data on registered voters, most recently on May 30. From that list, I get a tally by party; see below. That list contains information on 341,611 Democrats, 212,636 "No Party Preference", 174,102 Republicans, 15,151 American Independent, 4,112 Greens, 4,057 Libertarians, and 1,800 Peace & Freedom, plus roughly 1,200 people in 21 other parties, 4 of which have only one registered voter in Santa Clara County. Jim suggested it would be nice to send something to the 212,636 people with "No Party Preference". If we tried a mailing, at $0.45 for a stamp and $0.05 for paper and envelop, that's $100,000. "We too wee" for that, as Jim noted. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer Democratic No Party Preference 341611 212636 Republican American Independent 174102 15151 Green Libertarian 4112 4057 Peace and Freedom Reform Party 1800 892 Natural Law Rock And Roll Party 292 39 Free Party Whig Party 36 35 Constitution Party La Raza Unida 28 25 U.S. Taxpayers Party American Christian Party 19 18 Conservative Prohibition 17 14 Populist Socialist 10 9 Humanist American Nationalist Socialist 8 6 Justice Party Communist Party 5 2 Open Party Moderate Party (fmr Cal Mod Pty) 1 1 Christian Party Centalist 1 1 -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Sep 9 10:19:08 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill on Bill Moyers show In-Reply-To: <504BE857.9010700@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1347211148.75540.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Yes indeedy. I have recorded it. Anyone who missed it and wants to see it, please contact me soon. Caroline --- On Sat, 9/8/12, Jim Doyle wrote: From: Jim Doyle Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill on Bill Moyers show To: "sosfbay discussion group" Date: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 5:52 PM I just watched it. She's terrific, she gave a wonderful performance. It is inspiring. Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Sep 9 15:02:59 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:02:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CURBing jails - Tuesday In-Reply-To: <504BCF21.2020501@earthlink.net> References: <504BCF21.2020501@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <504D1213.9010304@earthlink.net> More info at http://www.occupyredwoodcity.org/ . Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > FYI, > > There will be a meeting of the San Mateo County > Board of Supervisors at the Redwood City Courthouse > on Tuesday, 9/11 at 9AM to discuss whether or not to > build a new jail at a cost of $160,000,000 up front > plus $40,000,000 / year. > > Some activists are opposing the new jail: > http://curbprisonspending.org/?p=1868 . > Orgs opposed to the jail include Occupy Redwood City, > ACLU, AFSC, IVAW, NLG, Occupy San Jose, and many others. > > I'm no expert on this subject, but I do think that > we have too many people in prison, and think that > a new jail is probably not a good idea. > > Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Sep 9 15:46:26 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 15:46:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Foreclosure Summit, Sat., 15 September, 1-4 PM In-Reply-To: <6AA3233D295F4538A8AC2CBF4B0414E0@sjcity.net> References: <6AA3233D295F4538A8AC2CBF4B0414E0@sjcity.net> Message-ID: <504D1C42.7040609@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: Just a reminder of the Foreclosure Summit this Saturday; feel free to repost this any place where you think people might be interested. Thanks, Spencer WHAT: Foreclosure Summit (free) WHEN: This coming Saturday, 15 September, 2011, 1-4 PM WHERE: New Community of Faith Church, 6350 Rainbow Drive San Jose, CA 95129 (off of Miller between Bollinger and Prospect) WHY: To help people impacted by the on-going nationwide wave of foreclosures respond more effectively to this threat. FOR MORE INFORMATION: 408-655-4567 or "Foreclosure Summit" at occupy.pbworks.com (http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/54238941/Foreclosure%20Summit) SPONSORED BY: Occupy San Jos?, the Green Party of Santa Clara County, and Home Owners for Justice AGENDA: 1-2 PM: Panel discussion moderated by Henrietta J. Burroughs, award winning journalist and editor-in-chief of East Palo Alto Today (www.epatoday.org). Panelists: Thomas Spielbauer, CJ Holmes, David Merritt, Spencer Graves. 2-3 PM: Small group discussions focused on questions for the panel and ideas for next steps 3-4 PM: Report backs, discussion, and plan next steps. PANELISTS: ** Thomas Spielbauer: An attorney in San Jos? with 23 years experience as a public defender currently specializing in helping people facing foreclosure. His web site (http://spielbauer.com) includes instructions on "How to Do Your Own Loan Modification". ** CJ Holmes: A realtor in Santa Rosa, the founder of Home Owners for Justice (hofj.org), and a regular on KPFA radio, 94.1 FM. ** David Merritt: a small business business owner and a non-lawyer litigator against Bank of America, Countrywide and others over a fraudulent, predatory loan by which the banks allegedly tried to saddle him and perhaps millions of others with triple the obligation he had agreed. ** Spencer Graves: PhD statistician with broad experience improving products and processes, including for Silicon Valley corporations. He has recently been focusing on foreclosures. -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Sep 9 19:37:18 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [Green Party of California/Partido Verde de California] Hey there Progressive Voters! Must see video... Message-ID: <1347244638.95506.YahooMailClassic@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 9/9/12, shane que hee wrote: From: shane que hee Subject: [Green Party of California/Partido Verde de California] Hey there Progressive Voters! Must see video... To: Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 12:06 PM Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 20:38:36 -0700 From: "Michael McCue" Reply-to: Reply to Comment Subject: [Green Party of California/Partido Verde de California] Hey there Progressive Voters! Must see video... Michael McCue posted in Green Party of California/Partido Verde de California Michael McCue 8:38pm Sep 8 Hey there Progressive Voters! Must see video of Bill Moyers interviewing Green Party Presidential candidate, Dr. Jill Stein (and Sen. Bernie Sanders), for a slightly different, Truth-to Power view of American politics! Again...this is must see video! Full Show: Challenging Power, Changing Politics | Moyers & Company | BillMoyers.com billmoyers.com Bill discusses the power of independent thinking with Senator Bernie Sanders and Green Party candida... View Post on Facebook ? Edit Email Settings ? Reply to this email to add a comment. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Mon Sep 10 00:00:28 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:00:28 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein in Palo Alto, Tues 9/25, 7:00-8:30 pm Message-ID: <20120910.000028.5247.1@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Green Party, Santa Clara County Single-Payer Healthcare Coalition and Peninsula Direct Action Present Dr. Jill Stein, Green Party Presidential Candidate Tuesday, September 25th 7:00 pm - 8:30 pm (doors open at 6:30 pm) Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto 505 East Charleston Roadd Palo Alto, CA 94306 Dr. Jill Stein, Harvard Medical School graduate and single-payer advocate, will discuss the importance of health care as a human right through a Medicare for All system that provides quality comprehensive care, preserves patient choice and puts people before profits. ~*~ Please spread the word, and we hope to see you there! Best regards, Valerie Face Santa Clara, CA ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504d907041a1e10701644st01vuc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Mon Sep 10 02:43:03 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:43:03 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrations by party in Santa Clara County Message-ID: <20120910.024303.28644.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Hi Spencer, all, I like the idea of a mailing to some of the voters with no party preference! One thing we should bear in mind is that absentee ballots get sent out on or around October 7 and voters begin to send them back about a week later. It would be good to know the breakdown of permanent absentees vs. non-absentees in our target population. The absentees are probably more than 60% overall. There's also the possibility that some of the non-absentees may have signed up to be absentees between May 30 and now. Perhaps not a lot of them, but some. FYI, here's an article, "Early Ad Barrage Coming As Mail-In Ballots Change Elections," that I found while searching for info on when absentee ballots go out. It talks about how the timing of election advertising and (formerly) "October Surprise" revelations is changing due to the high number of absentee voters. http://www.smmirror.com/articles/election/Early-Ad-Barrage-Coming-As-Mail-In-Ballots-Change-Elections/35426 Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:21:50 -0700 From: Spencer Graves To: GPSCC Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrations by party in Santa Clara County Hello, All: Jim Doyle went (twice) to the Office of the Registrar of Voters for Santa Clara County to get the data on registered voters, most recently on May 30. From that list, I get a tally by party; see below. That list contains information on 341,611 Democrats, 212,636 "No Party Preference", 174,102 Republicans, 15,151 American Independent, 4,112 Greens, 4,057 Libertarians, and 1,800 Peace & Freedom, plus roughly 1,200 people in 21 other parties, 4 of which have only one registered voter in Santa Clara County. Jim suggested it would be nice to send something to the 212,636 people with "No Party Preference". If we tried a mailing, at $0.45 for a stamp and $0.05 for paper and envelop, that's $100,000. "We too wee" for that, as Jim noted. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer Democratic No Party Preference 341611 212636 Republican American Independent 174102 15151 Green Libertarian 4112 4057 Peace and Freedom Reform Party 1800 892 Natural Law Rock And Roll Party 292 39 Free Party Whig Party 36 35 Constitution Party La Raza Unida 28 25 U.S. Taxpayers Party American Christian Party 19 18 Conservative Prohibition 17 14 Populist Socialist 10 9 Humanist American Nationalist Socialist 8 6 Justice Party Communist Party 5 2 Open Party Moderate Party (fmr Cal Mod Pty) 1 1 Christian Party Centalist 1 1 -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504db75e462c8375d5f2fst01vuc From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Sep 10 08:15:46 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:15:46 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrations by party in Santa Clara County In-Reply-To: <20120910.024303.28644.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120910.024303.28644.0@webmail06.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <504E0422.30602@prodsyse.com> Hi, Valerie, et al.: On 9/10/2012 2:43 AM, Valerie D. Face wrote: > Hi Spencer, all, > > I like the idea of a mailing to some of the voters with no party preference! As our treasurer once said, "We too wee." Our bank balance last month was just over $2,180.94. At $0.50 per piece, we can mail to 4,361 people if we devote our entire bank balance to that. We could mail to all 4,112 registered Greens, tell them about the Jill Stein event and solicit donations so we can mail to some with "No Party Preference". I suggest we try first email to registered Greens, hyping Jill Stein while soliciting $ AND explaining what we plan to do with the money -- e.g., mail to "No Party Preference". We can then follow that with phone calls and with considering snail mail to all registered Greens with no physical mailing address. If we send anything via US Postal Service, we need to be meticulous about collecting the mail that comes "return to sender" and entering that into CiviCRM. We should probably do the same with emails. It would also be wise, I think, to try to email to all the "No Party Preference" -- with a somewhat different message than what we send the Greens. Your comments about timing suggests we should have been putting a major effort into this for some time. But then, that's always true ;-) Best Wishes, Spencer > One thing we should bear in mind is that absentee ballots get sent out on or around October 7 and voters begin to send them back about a week later. It would be good to know the breakdown of permanent absentees vs. non-absentees in our target population. The absentees are probably more than 60% overall. > > There's also the possibility that some of the non-absentees may have signed up to be absentees between May 30 and now. Perhaps not a lot of them, but some. > > FYI, here's an article, "Early Ad Barrage Coming As Mail-In Ballots Change Elections," that I found while searching for info on when absentee ballots go out. It talks about how the timing of election advertising and (formerly) "October Surprise" revelations is changing due to the high number of absentee voters. > > http://www.smmirror.com/articles/election/Early-Ad-Barrage-Coming-As-Mail-In-Ballots-Change-Elections/35426 > > Best wishes, > Valerie > > ~*~*~*~ > Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America > Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:21:50 -0700 > From: Spencer Graves > To: GPSCC > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Registrations by party in Santa Clara County > > Hello, All: > > > Jim Doyle went (twice) to the Office of the Registrar of Voters > for Santa Clara County to get the data on registered voters, most > recently on May 30. From that list, I get a tally by party; see below. > That list contains information on 341,611 Democrats, 212,636 "No Party > Preference", 174,102 Republicans, 15,151 American Independent, 4,112 > Greens, 4,057 Libertarians, and 1,800 Peace & Freedom, plus roughly > 1,200 people in 21 other parties, 4 of which have only one registered > voter in Santa Clara County. Jim suggested it would be nice to send > something to the 212,636 people with "No Party Preference". If we tried > a mailing, at $0.45 for a stamp and $0.05 for paper and envelop, that's > $100,000. "We too wee" for that, as Jim noted. > > > Comments? > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > > Democratic No Party Preference > 341611 212636 > Republican American Independent > 174102 15151 > Green Libertarian > 4112 4057 > Peace and Freedom Reform Party > 1800 892 > Natural Law Rock And Roll Party > 292 39 > Free Party Whig Party > 36 35 > Constitution Party La Raza Unida > 28 25 > U.S. Taxpayers Party American Christian Party > 19 18 > Conservative Prohibition > 17 14 > Populist Socialist > 10 9 > Humanist American Nationalist Socialist > 8 6 > Justice Party Communist Party > 5 2 > Open Party Moderate Party (fmr Cal Mod Pty) > 1 1 > Christian Party Centalist > 1 1 > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From gerrygras at earthlink.net Mon Sep 10 12:00:35 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:00:35 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Climate Change Event Message-ID: <504E38D3.7040107@earthlink.net> FYI, Gerry =========================================================== The Climate Reality Project presents Climate Crisis and Solutions Friday, September 14, 2012, 7:30 PM THE FUTURE IS HERE...AND IT'S HOT! How will climate change affect your food, water and energy supply? How will it impact the health of your family? Will you, your children, your parents, your community be able to adapt? How do we create a resilient local economy and community? It's time for solutions, time for action Who: Gary Latshaw, PhD Climate Reality Project (climaterealityproject.org ) What: Presentation, Q&A, Networking with local organizations to take action When: Friday, September 14, 2012, 7:30 PM Where: Elizabeth Seton School Auditorium, 1095 Channing Avenue, Palo Alto Why:We must empower ourselves to act now. Free-Open to the Public Dr. Latshaw, retired physicist, received his PhD in physics from Stanford University. In this Climate Reality Project presentation, he will explain the science behind the crisis, describe potential local and national impacts, and offer solutions which must be implemented soon for the benefit of future generations. Come learn what you can do and how to take action. There will be an opportunity to meet with organizations with ideas and projects to mitigate global warming. Light refreshments. Ample parking. Sponsored by the Thomas Merton Center of Palo Alto Co-sponsors Acterra; Bay Area for Clean Environment (BACE); Catholic Diocese of San Jose; Catholic Community at Stanford; Chamber of Commerce-Palo Alto; Citizen?s Climate Lobby; Collective Roots-East Palo Alto;Community Environmental Action Partnership - Palo Alto; Common Ground Organic Garden Supply and Education Center; St. Mark?s Episcopal Church (Palo Alto);St. Thomas Aquinas Parish-Palo Alto; Sierra Club Loma Prieta Chapter;Transition Palo Alto ==================== From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 10 12:53:07 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:53:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] email from the gpca votes list Message-ID: <504E4523.50001@sbcglobal.net> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jesse Moorman wrote: >> The bottom of the page says: >> "Paid for by California Nurses Association Initiative PAC (Yes on 30 >> and No on 32)." >> >> And several times this page says "California Green Peace," which I >> assume is neither Green Party nor Greenpeace. >> >> On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jared Laiti wrote: > > >>>> Someone is paying for facebook ads directing people to this page: >>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/CA-Green-Party-Members-Supporters-for-Yes-on-30-No-on-32/283444341760132 >>>> >>>> Jared >> >> _______________________________________________ From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 10 16:02:05 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:02:05 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] student volunteer Message-ID: <504E716D.2020102@sbcglobal.net> We have a student volunteer, Ellie Lemco, from Saratoga High School who is willing to table with us at the Tuesday evening September 25-th Jill Stein event for her four hours of citizen activism. She used our web site to find us and I have exchanged a few emails with her resulting in her commitment to table at that event with us. From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 10 16:47:59 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:47:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] ad in a 9 to 5 workshop brochure Message-ID: <504E7C2F.4030309@sbcglobal.net> Cathy Deppe, wife of Alex Walker, is donating $100 in kind to the Green Party by way of placing a quarter page ad in the workshop brochure for a workshop the 9 to 5 organisation will be holding in Palo Alto Saturday September 22-nd. She asks of us to provide some material on Jill Stein for that ad. Secondly, she asks if we would be willing to spend $100 and make it a full page ad. Needed: 1) county council approval for the deadline is this coming Friday AND 2) someone to furnish the ad content if approved. Jim Doyle From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 17:01:29 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cheapest direct mail method Message-ID: <1347321689.26313.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Since there hasn't been much response to my "Work opportunity" of going door to door selling my Peacemovies.com books in January 2013, I looked into direct mail methods. ? It costs 28 cents for standard rate presorted mail postage for a for profit operation, less for a nonprofit. ? It costs 5.5 cents per piece for a mailing of a double sided 5.5"x8.5" coupon in the monthly mailing of the Money Mailer, where a set of 20-50 coupons are sent in one mailer.? The minimum order is 10,000 pieces ($550).? The front side of the coupon is full color while the back side of the coupon is black and red.? I don't know if you can pick and choose which addresses within San Jose that the coupons can be sent to.? The phone number for this outfit is 408-410-3541.? I asked them about my book being political and they said that they don't have any editorial guidelines.? Maybe we could use them to get the word out about Jill Stein and the Green Party?? There are many other local franchises of the Money Mailer. You can search for them on their web site www.moneymailer.com . ? John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Mon Sep 10 22:46:42 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:46:42 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cheapest direct mail method Message-ID: <20120910.224642.21022.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Hi everyone, If we don't print things ourselves we should give very serious consideration to using a union printer. Some folks pay a lot of attention to that union bug at election time. http://www.printedunion.com/ is in San Jose and offers printing and mailing services. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 Please note: message attached -------------- next part -------------- Since there hasn't been much response to my "Work opportunity" of going door to door selling my Peacemovies.com books in January 2013, I looked into direct mail methods. ? It costs 28 cents for standard rate presorted mail postage for a for profit operation, less for a nonprofit. ? It costs 5.5 cents per piece for a mailing of a double sided 5.5"x8.5" coupon in the monthly mailing of the Money Mailer, where a set of 20-50 coupons are sent in one mailer.? The minimum order is 10,000 pieces ($550).? The front side of the coupon is full color while the back side of the coupon is black and red.? I don't know if you can pick and choose which addresses within San Jose that the coupons can be sent to.? The phone number for this outfit is 408-410-3541.? I asked them about my book being political and they said that they don't have any editorial guidelines.? Maybe we could use them to get the word out about Jill Stein and the Green Party?? There are many other local franchises of the Money Mailer. You can search for them on their web site www.moneymailer.com . ? John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Sep 11 08:16:55 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:16:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Plug-in Hybrid Retrofit Message-ID: Middle Tennessee State University project puts hub motors on rear wheels, a battery back and controller in the trunk, and cuts gasoline usage by 50% http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOA_i2qAQq0 Cost: $3k to $5k. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Tue Sep 11 10:16:45 2012 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:16:45 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Foreclosure Summit in Yahoo News In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <504F71FD.8080502@structuremonitoring.com> See the link below -- or Google for something like "San Jose Foreclosure Summit"; that produced several matches for me. The matches included a tweet from Occupy San Jose. Hope to see you there. Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: PACT meeting tomorrow evening? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:14:43 -0700 From: David Merritt To: Spencer Graves http://news.yahoo.com/san-francisco-bay-area-foreclosure-summit-discuss-options-072438076.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:49:31 -0700 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com To: dymerritt at hotmail.com Subject: Re: PACT meeting tomorrow evening? Most Holy Trinity Catholic Church 2040 Nassau Drive San Jose, CA 95122 US 101 South to Story Rd (first exit past I-280) East on Story, right on S. King Rd. Left onto Cunningham Ave. 3 blocks, then right onto Nassau Dr.: Find a parking space. See you then. Spencer On 9/10/2012 7:37 PM, David Merritt wrote: *What is address again?* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:40:51 -0700 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com To: dymerritt at hotmail.com Subject: PACT meeting tomorrow evening? Hi, David: Might it be convenient for you to come to the PACT meeting tomorrow evening at the Most Holy Trinity church? Gina Gates, the organizer whom you met August 21, was asking; see below. I'll be in the agenda for "2 minutes. Then [they] will do a vote" (as noted below). I think I will primarily distribute the updated fliers, ask them to come and bring others, and then ask for time during their next meeting to discuss anything else they might want to do about foreclosures or payday lending or other related issues. I plan to offer to help organize a similar event that they could host. Best Wishes, Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: ping Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:22:08 -0700 From: Gina Gates To: Spencer Graves CC: Jennifer Wood-Taylor Hi Spencer, I'm putting you on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting that starts at 6:30. YOu have 2 minutes. Then we will do a vote. Is that ok? Also, can Mr. Merritt come as well? What is his phone number? Gina Gates (408) 835-3000 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Spencer Graves > wrote: Hi, Gina: On 9/7/2012 3:19 PM, Gina Gates wrote: Greetings Spencer, There was no space to get this in at either meeting. Please return to the LOC meeting on Tuesday and we will discuss then. I am chairing so I will put it on the agenda if you are coming. I need a clearly defined expected result for this event... If it is just a discussion -- that's fine, but if there are going to be additional outcomes you are shooting for -- that would be nice to have. At this point it looks like a platica. And that is ok too. What do you think I should ask for? By now, you may know enough about what I'm trying to do to make some suggestions in this area, I think. I can make up something, but I thought I had the last time, and it didn't communicate. I've been quite impressed with your LOC, and I'm happy to spend some time trying to support it -- more if what they want to do connects in some reasonable way with the major issues I've mentioned to you. I volunteered to do some phone banking for Aug. 27. That got canceled, because they weren't quite ready. I understood them to say they would call me, and they haven't yet. Pienso que podr?a probablemente hacer llamadas en espa?ol si se necesita m?s personas biling?es. Hablo a veces con un amigo en Nicaragua que realmente no conoce ingl?s, pero no pudo seguir las telenovelas ni las pel?culas de Cantinfas ;-) Spencer Gina Gates (408) 835-3000 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Spencer Graves > wrote: Hi, Gina: Any more thoughts on foreclosures? Thanks, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Tue Sep 11 10:18:48 2012 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:18:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Foreclosure Summit in Yahoo News In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <504F7278.6060307@structuremonitoring.com> Please see the link below -- or Google for something like "San Jose Foreclosure Summit"; that produced several matches for me. The matches included a tweet from Occupy San Jose. I'd like to know whom to thank for that. Hope to see you there. Spencer p.s. Several of us plan to arrive at 11 to help set up. If you can come early, we'd be pleased to have you. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: PACT meeting tomorrow evening? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:14:43 -0700 From: David Merritt To: Spencer Graves http://news.yahoo.com/san-francisco-bay-area-foreclosure-summit-discuss-options-072438076.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:49:31 -0700 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com To: dymerritt at hotmail.com Subject: Re: PACT meeting tomorrow evening? Most Holy Trinity Catholic Church 2040 Nassau Drive San Jose, CA 95122 US 101 South to Story Rd (first exit past I-280) East on Story, right on S. King Rd. Left onto Cunningham Ave. 3 blocks, then right onto Nassau Dr.: Find a parking space. See you then. Spencer On 9/10/2012 7:37 PM, David Merritt wrote: *What is address again?* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:40:51 -0700 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com To: dymerritt at hotmail.com Subject: PACT meeting tomorrow evening? Hi, David: Might it be convenient for you to come to the PACT meeting tomorrow evening at the Most Holy Trinity church? Gina Gates, the organizer whom you met August 21, was asking; see below. I'll be in the agenda for "2 minutes. Then [they] will do a vote" (as noted below). I think I will primarily distribute the updated fliers, ask them to come and bring others, and then ask for time during their next meeting to discuss anything else they might want to do about foreclosures or payday lending or other related issues. I plan to offer to help organize a similar event that they could host. Best Wishes, Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: ping Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:22:08 -0700 From: Gina Gates To: Spencer Graves CC: Jennifer Wood-Taylor Hi Spencer, I'm putting you on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting that starts at 6:30. YOu have 2 minutes. Then we will do a vote. Is that ok? Also, can Mr. Merritt come as well? What is his phone number? Gina Gates (408) 835-3000 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Spencer Graves > wrote: Hi, Gina: On 9/7/2012 3:19 PM, Gina Gates wrote: Greetings Spencer, There was no space to get this in at either meeting. Please return to the LOC meeting on Tuesday and we will discuss then. I am chairing so I will put it on the agenda if you are coming. I need a clearly defined expected result for this event... If it is just a discussion -- that's fine, but if there are going to be additional outcomes you are shooting for -- that would be nice to have. At this point it looks like a platica. And that is ok too. What do you think I should ask for? By now, you may know enough about what I'm trying to do to make some suggestions in this area, I think. I can make up something, but I thought I had the last time, and it didn't communicate. I've been quite impressed with your LOC, and I'm happy to spend some time trying to support it -- more if what they want to do connects in some reasonable way with the major issues I've mentioned to you. I volunteered to do some phone banking for Aug. 27. That got canceled, because they weren't quite ready. I understood them to say they would call me, and they haven't yet. Pienso que podr?a probablemente hacer llamadas en espa?ol si se necesita m?s personas biling?es. Hablo a veces con un amigo en Nicaragua que realmente no conoce ingl?s, pero no pudo seguir las telenovelas ni las pel?culas de Cantinfas ;-) Spencer Gina Gates (408) 835-3000 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Spencer Graves > wrote: Hi, Gina: Any more thoughts on foreclosures? Thanks, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Sep 11 10:37:33 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:37:33 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Wind Power more than enough for the world? In-Reply-To: <504F747F.3050005@earthlink.net> References: <504F747F.3050005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <504F76DD.1050400@earthlink.net> FYI, Two studies say that wind power could provide more energy than the world needs. (But although the technology is there, maybe the economics is not.): http://www.usatoday.com/weather/story/2012/09/10/study-wind-could-power-the-world/57734126/1 http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/09/11/3587733.htm http://www.kqed.org/news/story/2012/09/10/107497/studies_suggest_wind_could_power_the_world?category=bay+area http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Studies-Wind-potentially-could-power-the-world-3853842.php http://www.sciencecodex.com/wind_powers_potential-98147 http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/382780/20120911/u-s-studies-wind-farms-exclusively-feed.htm and more From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 11 12:03:58 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:03:58 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] tabling opportunity & advertising Message-ID: <504F8B1E.2000606@sbcglobal.net> Saturday September 22-nd 9 am to 2:30 pm UFCW local 5 240 South Market St San Jose, CA This is at the Regional Leadership Conference of the 9to5 organisation. They expect 75 - 100 attendees. Their topic is organising for equity. Our cost would be $25 for the table space. ------- Also, Cathy Deppe has already donated $100 for a quarter page ad for the Green Party in their conference program. We could add another $100 and have a half page ad. Cathy is asking us to provide the content for the ad. ----- Jim Doyle From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Tue Sep 11 12:42:15 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cheapest direct mail method In-Reply-To: <20120910.224642.21022.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <1347392535.48761.YahooMailClassic@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I submitted a quote request for 1000 b+w matte finish door hangers to the union shop suggested below.? Their color/glossy door hangers are way too expensive ($160 for 500).? They can give me a good enough deal on booklet printing ($400 for 200 100 page booklets on printer supplied recycled paper vs the competition -- a woman owned shop Maple Press --- @ $320 for 200 with bring your own recycled paper on the bus at a $40 discount) that I may decide to have them print my booklets in January. ? John Thielking --- On Mon, 9/10/12, Valerie D. Face wrote: From: Valerie D. Face Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Cheapest direct mail method To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Monday, September 10, 2012, 10:46 PM Hi everyone, If we don't print things ourselves we should give very serious consideration to using a union printer.? Some folks pay a lot of attention to that union bug at election time. http://www.printedunion.com/ is in San Jose and offers printing and mailing services. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ???First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 Please note: message attached Since there hasn't been much response to my "Work opportunity" of going door to door selling my Peacemovies.com books in January 2013, I looked into direct mail methods. ? It costs 28 cents for standard rate presorted mail postage for a for profit operation, less for a nonprofit. ? It costs 5.5 cents per piece for a mailing of a double sided 5.5"x8.5" coupon in the monthly mailing of the Money Mailer, where a set of 20-50 coupons are sent in one mailer.? The minimum order is 10,000 pieces ($550).? The front side of the coupon is full color while the back side of the coupon is black and red.? I don't know if you can pick and choose which addresses within San Jose that the coupons can be sent to.? The phone number for this outfit is 408-410-3541.? I asked them about my book being political and they said that they don't have any editorial guidelines.? Maybe we could use them to get the word out about Jill Stein and the Green Party?? There are many other local franchises of the Money Mailer. You can search for them on their web site www.moneymailer.com . ? John Thielking -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cathyd at 9to5.org Mon Sep 10 16:51:56 2012 From: cathyd at 9to5.org (Cathy Deppe) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:51:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] ad in a 9 to 5 workshop brochure In-Reply-To: <504E7C2F.4030309@sbcglobal.net> References: <504E7C2F.4030309@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: thanks Jim, I do need the photo-ready ad by Friday for the union printer. I would love to have the Green Party Logo in the ad, along with a pitch for Jill Stein that stresses her support for women's rights (equal pay, etc). If you don't want to or can't support additional funding, please do send me an ad by Friday anyway :) Cathy D. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Cathy Deppe, wife of Alex Walker, is donating $100 in kind > to the Green Party by way of placing a quarter page ad in the > workshop brochure for a workshop the 9 to 5 organisation > will be holding in Palo Alto Saturday September 22-nd. > > She asks of us to provide some material on Jill Stein > for that ad. > > Secondly, she asks if we would be willing to spend $100 > and make it a full page ad. > > Needed: 1) county council approval for the deadline is this coming Friday > AND > 2) someone to furnish the ad content if approved. > > Jim Doyle > -- Cathy Deppe 9to5 California Lead Organizer 630 Shatto PL, 4th FL. Los Angeles, CA 90005 213-201-7029 (office); 408-206-7992 (cell) 213-389-1816 (fax) www.9to5california.org HELPLINE: 1- 800-522-0925 TOLL FREE Change the Workplace, Change the World From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Sep 11 14:37:07 2012 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:37:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: HUGE OCEAN BEACH EVENT -- OCTOBER 13 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <504FAF03.2040703@aceweb.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: HUGE OCEAN BEACH EVENT -- OCTOBER 13 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:02:05 -0700 From: brad at bradnewsham.com To: tnharter at aceweb.com GINORMOUS HUMAN BANNER EVENT Saturday, October 13, Ocean Beach, San Francisco, CA. Please arrive in vicinity by 10:45 a.m. Helicopter overhead at noon. Event completed by approx 12:15 p.m. Sign up& details: http://www.humanbannersf.com Hello Friends, I believe that just about every one of you will agree with me on this: Some truths are so blindingly self-evident that the Founding Fathers felt no need to include them in the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, or the Constitution. Among these: ???Corporations are NOT People.??? ???Money is NOT Speech.??? ???Elections are NOT Auctions.??? Since January 2007, thousands of people in the San Francisco Bay Area have turned out to create a series of human banners on which I was the key organizer. And now, on a Saturday morning just a few weeks before Election Day, I am joining with my friends at The Other 98% plus a growing coalition of grassroots progressive groups to attempt our most ambitious human banner yet. To sign up NOW: http://www.humanbannersf.com For Other 98%: http://other98.com/ The National Park Service has issued a ???First Amendment / free speech permit??? allowing up to 10,000 of us to assemble on Ocean Beach and use our bodies to send a message to the world. The content and exact design of our message will depend in large part on how many of us register. The message may turn out to be one of the phrases in bold above. It may also contain artwork. Whatever the final design, it will denounce the corporate takeover of our democracy and will champion the overturn of the Supreme Court???s Citizens United lunacy. Numerous media and the internet will sling our event imagery around the world faster than you can say ???front page??? or ???viral video.??? And if you join us at the beach, a few days later an oversized postcard (featuring a photo taken from our rented helicopter) will land in your mailbox. If you can come to this fun, free, peaceful (and brief) event, please register NOW. Knowing who is coming makes the job of an organizer -- my job! -- so much less frenzied. It helps me sort out everything ahead of time, from the final design of the message to how many porta-potties to order. For a while I have been trying to figure out how to interest people in this vital issue of our democracy being irredeemably corrupted by corporate cash. But after talking with folks in my taxi during recent weeks, I realize I don???t have to try to make people care. Almost everyone already cares -- and quite deeply. My job, my intention here, is simply to provide a safe and fun place for people to come together and effectively express themselves. If you can, please register and join us. And please share news of this event with your circle. For more details; to see photos from past events; and to register for Saturday, October 13, please click here: http://www.humanbannersf.com . See you at the beach. Money out. People in. Brad newsham at mac.com 415-305-8294 If you do not want to receive any more newsletters, http://bradnewsham.com/lists/?p=unsubscribe&uid=b90f4e26282beac9bf8c5eaa03bd1fc2 To update your preferences and to unsubscribe visit http://bradnewsham.com/lists/?p=preferences&uid=b90f4e26282beac9bf8c5eaa03bd1fc2 If this newsletter has been forwarded to you, and you'd like to subscribe to this newsletter in the future please click http://bradnewsham.com/lists/?p=subscribe -- Powered by PHPlist, www.phplist.com -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Tue Sep 11 14:46:24 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:46:24 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Suggested website update: Jill Stein event announcement Message-ID: <20120911.144624.8899.0@webmail02.vgs.untd.com> Hi everyone, I suggest that we put an announcement of the Jill Stein Sept. 25 event on our website. It will be useful for those of us who are doing phone bank and email outreach (there are always some folks who want to know the URL where details are posted), and it's good to publicize the event to anyone who just finds us on the web. Best regards, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/504fb1744c51a31747d7ast04vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Sep 11 15:22:14 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:22:14 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: [ppjc] Occupy the Economy! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <504FB996.6050101@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: [ppjc] Occupy the Economy! Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:02:48 -0700 From: Gloria Purcell To: GPSMC-D First event listed is tonight! Sorry for last-minute posting; check out the rest below: (I would appreciate feedback as to how many people are already getting this from PPJC) Gloria Begin forwarded message: > *From: *"Peninsula Peace and Justice Center" > > *Date: *September 6, 2012 12:13:20 PM PDT > *To: *gloria at extragalactic.net > *Subject: **[ppjc]Occupy the Economy!* > > If you're having trouble viewing this email, you may see it online > . > > > Share This: > > *PPJC > Peninsula Peace and Justice Center // www.PeaceandJustice.org > > * > > > *David Barsamian: Occupy the Economy* > > *Also noted...* > > *Author Talk / Book Signing > Tuesday, September 11, 7:30 PM* > Click here for details > > > *David Barsamian* is the award-winning founder and director of > Alternative Radio, the independent weekly audio series based in > Boulder, Colorado. One of America's most wide-ranging and respected > independent journalists, David Barsamian has altered the media > landscape with his radio programs and books with Noam Chomsky, Tariq > Ali, Howard Zinn, Arundhati Roy and others. His most recent book is > "Occupy the Economy: Challenging Capitalism" with Richard Wolff. > > He is winner of the Media Education Award, the ACLU's Upton Sinclair > Award for independent journalism, and the Cultural Freedom Fellowship > from the Lannan Foundation. The Institute for Alternative Journalism > named him one of its Top Ten Media Heroes. Mark your calendars and > join us to hear this compelling speaker on Tuesday, September 11 at > 7:30 PM, at University Church, 1611 Stanford Avenue, Palo Alto > . > The event is free and open to all. Contributions to support the work > of PPJC will be requested. The venue is wheelchair accessible. > > > *The REEL REAL ECONOMY Film Series* > A collection of great films, followed by group discussions, delving > deeply into how the economy really works ? and for whom. > Click here for full details > > > Thursday, September 27 > *HEIST: Who Stole the American Dream?* > * > * > Wednesday, October 10 > *This Land Is Our Land: The Fight to Reclaim the Commons* > * > * > Wednesday, October 24 > *The Billionaires' Tea Party* > > * > A grassroots win for human rights! Thanks to /YOU /... > > > *Last week we sent out an *action alert* asking you to contact your > Reps in Congress to co-sponsor HR 5749, the *Arms Sales > Responsilibility Act*, which would cut off US arms sales to human > rights violators like Bahrain. Did you ever respond! *Thanks to your > calls and emails, we're happy to report that**Reps. Anna Eshoo and > Jacker Speier have now become co-sponsors of the > legislation*.Grassroots activism works, thanks to caring people like you! > <<<>>> > > > > Like us on Facebook! > > > <<<>>> > > <<<>>> > > */Share this message!/*Use the handy sharing icons at the top to email > your friends or post to Facebook, LinkedIn or Twitter. Thanks. > > 305 N. California Avenue | Palo Alto, CA 94301 US > > This email was sent to *gloria at extragalactic.net > *. To ensure that you continue > receiving our emails, please add us to your > address book or safe list. > > *manage* > > your preferences | *opt out* > > using *TrueRemove?* > > Got this as a forward? *Sign up* > > to receive our future emails. > > Network for Good > *EmailNow* powered by Emma > > -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ gpsmc-d mailing list gpsmc-d at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpsmc-d http://cagreens.org/sanmateo/ From vdf at juno.com Tue Sep 11 22:14:19 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 05:14:19 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: WEDNESDAY 9/12 10AM - KQED Forum on Prop 34! Message-ID: <20120911.221419.23044.1@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Hi everyone, FYI, here's an alert from the Yes on Prop 34 campaign. Tomorrow's KQED Forum radio show will have Jeanne Woodford, executive director of Death Penalty Focus, former warden at San Quentin State Prison and former director of the California Department of Corrections, representing those in favor of Prop 34. See the alert for details on how you can participate in the show. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 Please note: forwarded message attached ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50501a731f2ba1a7221eest02vuc -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Courtney Minick Subject: WEDNESDAY 9/12 10AM - KQED Forum on Prop 34! Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:54:47 -0700 Size: 7020 URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 08:19:54 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: MF offers ultimate insult to Green Party candidate at GPLACC meeting In-Reply-To: <8CF5EBDCD0F5CC1-20FC-4BDDA@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> References: <30399390.1344983312244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <88D77111544649538EB9E09DB6F947B7@sr1222nx> <1345058968.62145.YahooMailNeo@web122306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <7CC7C2912FF243BA9C0BE808FCB9D3E0@sr1222nx> <1345131260.43486.YahooMailNeo@web122305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <3F3E363B-AD08-4A1C-8042-DDBC1352D223@gmail.com> <1345176120.15253.YahooMailNeo@web122302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <54EF68C1-486C-42F5-B8E4-B807F4699FDD@earthlink.net> <1346638509.44307.YahooMailNeo@web122305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1346801609.15131.YahooMailNeo@web122302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1347127639.73197.YahooMailNeo@web122303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <62576311-4BED-47A8-8846-F88A316B0FCB@earthlink.net> <37B7E07978194D8DBA73 A12834760FFE@sr1222nx> <8CF5E74D019CB98-1EC0-489BE@webmail-m 011.sysops.aol.com> <6A523A89F1584DF8B84927F96558B9DF@sr1222nx> <8CF5EBDCD0F5CC1-20FC-4BDDA@webmail-d133.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1347463194.51875.YahooMailNeo@web124505.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ? ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Michael McCue >To: sfvgreens at gmail.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:22 PM >Subject: MF offers ultimate insult to Green Party candidate at GPLACC meeting > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sandy Stiassni >To: Matthew Leslie >Cc: Duane Roberts ; Anthony Vieyra ; jrands ; David J. Keulen ; RON RODARTE ; Gordon Johnson ; myklmcq >Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 12:53 am >Subject: GPLA Meeting, Duane's Campaign Endorsement, random Jill Stein Follow-ups: "I'm glad I'm an Orange County Green!" > > >OC Greens, >Duane and I wandered-up to LA Green Party Sunday Meeting. I share the following: >Duane made an effective candidate presentation. Michael McCue, who facilitated this meeting, was quite pleased to have Duane participate, even went so far to ask GPLA to contribute $200 to his campaign. This was hotly opposed by Mike Feinstein, who had the gaul to say, Duane had "a snowball's chance in Hell" to win his race! Never have I seen a Green group react so swiftly to such a tacky, inappropriate, unkind statement! >While a motion to make an official donation didn't pass, Duane was rewarded with a LAGP endorsement. County Council members individually contributed to Duane's campaign, and several personally apologized for Feinstein's terrible comments! >San Clemente Green Ace Hoffman gave a good San Onofre talk; regrettably due to typical inane Feinsteinian legislative posturing, a member of Friends of the Earth, who'd also come, left without speaking. Ron, if you know this young lady, who was quite disappointed, perhaps you can directly apologise to her for being unable to make a presentation. Let her know she can have all the time she wants in OC, which I also communicated to Ace! >Edy Alvarez talked about Jill Stein's September 26th college campaign tour. I spoke privately with him, and shared both Matt's and my concern; two lengthy San Diego presentations would make it virtually impossible for Jill to speak in Orange County in the afternoon. I asked Edy to communicate our concerns to Hugh Moore, which he seemed uncomfortable to make. Jane, word to the wise; don't put too much effort into an OC event in which, notwithstanding Jill Stein's best intentions, it'll be extremely difficult for her to do. >Jane, I've Jill Stein campaign hand-outs, made by Edy; I'll put them under your front door mat. Edy says he has Jill Stein campaign materials I ordered from him, over a month ago, still "on order!" >Duane, Anthony Vieyra and I had dinner with Michael McCue afterward. Michael expressed interest to come Orange County Green meetings, and encouraged all OC Greens to visit LA to anytime. After ten years of exclusion, recriminations and much worse (!), it seems opportunities for LA and OC Greens to work together on political activities of mutual interest may start to happen! Ron, Michael McCue's interested to work with you in San Onofre issues. You may reach him directly at myklmcq at aol.com. >On our drive back to Orange County, Duane simply said, "I'm glad I'm an Orange County Green!" I echo that sentiment! >As ever, >Sandy Stiassni >P.S. David, thanks for your wonderful Down Under narrative. G'day, mate! >? >----- Original Message ----- >From:Michael McCue >To: dadcab at sbcglobal.net ; approximateman at earthlink.net >Cc: duaneroberts92804 at yahoo.com ; calvin_hobbes4vr at yahoo.com ; jrands at earthlink.net ; djkmd1 at gmail.com ; highwayron at gmail.com ; gdjohnson2 at juno.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:40 PM >Subject: Here's my ask... > >Dear Sandy, Duane & all OC Greens, >Thank you so much for attending our County Council meeting on Sunday. >As you already know, our LA County Council has an extremely poor record of "getting the job done." >We are hoping that new leadership will turn that around, and please know that LA Greens are feeling more positive about our prospects now, than at any time in the last 10 years. >Of course, this is due to the recent County Council election results and the energized group of Responsible Greens who are determined to turn things around in LA County. (Crossed fingers!) >We appreciate your continued interest in our ongoing activities, and yes, we want to work together with OC Greens...particularly on the San Onofre issue, which we feel can be an organizing issue for all Greens in SoCal, and should be our focus after the elections are over. >But... >One thing that I need to ask your advice about... >You mentioned MF's attrocious comment to Duane, "You don't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning" for which an apology is certainly owed. >As the current Coordinator for the GPLACC, I was so flabbergasted at the statement when it happened, and am still so stunned, that I find myself now stupified as to how to officially respond to such an outrageous statement coming from one of our supposed Green Party "founders." >Because our Council unexpectedly offended a Green in good standing....a Green who has a record of service above and beyond the call of duty, not only as a candidate for Senator and candidate for Anaheim City Council, but also as an articulate voice for our party and our policies... >...and especially in view of the fact that the candidate made a special effort to attend our LA meeting on Sunday seeking our endorsement... >...and because that mean-spirited comment violated our 10 Key Values... >...and in view of the fact that MF has a long record of attacking and smearing our Green candidates here in LA County... >Here's my ask... >What advice can OC Greens give me as to how to respond, or what action to take? >What would your Greens do with such a trouble-maker and with such a vicious comment? What remedy would you seek? >Should we censure? Should we demand a personal apology? >Of course, in my role as Coordinator, I want Duane to know that MF's comment is a singular anomaly, and does NOT reflect the feelings of LA Greens. >To the contrary...every LA Green I know (excepting MF) loves, and respects Duane, and we also very much admire his courage in running for Anaheim City Council. >We also believe that Duane CAN WIN! >So... >What is your advice? How should we respond? What official action should we take to remedy this outrage? Should the state party be notified that such outrages are happening? >Please advise....because I am still so stunned by MF's deliberate viciousness, that I am at a loss for words, and am unsure of how to create a remedy for this dreadful situation. >This is a challenge for me as the new County Coordinator, and since I am so new, I hope you will forgive me for seeking your advice. >I want to do things right and support our Green candidates to the fullest. >Thanks. >In your service, > > >Michael McCue >Green Party Los Angeles >County Council Coordinator >818-912-4017 >? >? >Hi Mike: > >I thank you for your kind words. > >In my opinion, don't waste your time with Michael Feinstein over his petty comments. They didn't bother me in the slightest bit. All they did was further marginalize him. > >Move forward and spend your time and energy on building the Green Party. > >Sincerely, > >Duane J. Roberts >duaneroberts92804 at yahoo.com >Anaheim, California > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sandy Stiassni >To: Michael McCue >Cc: duaneroberts92804 ; calvin_hobbes4vr ; jrands ; djkmd1 ; highwayron ; gdjohnson2 >Sent: Tue, Sep 11, 2012 9:15 pm >Subject: Since you asked... I "vote" for censure > > >Hi Michael, >? >??? Since you asked... >? >??? I "vote" for censure.? >? >????It wasn't so much an insult to both Green Party candidates for office who attended last Sunday's GPLA meeting,?but to every aspirant for office, for each position, in all cities,?from any political party!?? To have an elected political party official publicly make such a statement about a candidate denies the very function of a political party central committee: to?empower the democratic electoral process.? Come to think of it, to call for resignation from GPLA County Council wouldn't go far enough... >? >??? That said, I echo my Orange County colleague Duane Roberts; to spend time on such nonsense?legitimizes those who utter them. You must carefully weigh the costs to make a formal censure.? In my view, it's long overdue, but doubtful whether it'll ultimately help your critically important, effective goals to "turn-on" LA County Greens. >? >??? Thank you for your most cordial welcome to Duane and I.? We look forward to keep in touch.? As far as I'm concerned, the Orange Curtain only exists if you allow it to be! >? >As ever, >? >Sandy Stiassni >714-269-7225 >? >P.S. We Orange County Greens also strongly believe in Duane Roberts! >?? >>? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Wed Sep 12 20:54:24 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 03:54:24 -0000 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tell Obama: End Indefinite Detention Message-ID: <20120913035424.3874.88545@web01.actionkit.com> Friends- We did it! A federal court in New York just ruled indefinite detention UNCONSTITUTIONAL and issued a permanent injunction against use of that law -- it would have allowed the military to detain civilians -- even Americans -- indefinitely and without trial if they're accused of certain crimes. Please click here to tell Obama to back off of his support of indefinite detention, and tell your senators to oppose it when it comes up for a vote this fall. http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ndaa_lawsuit_win/?referring_akid=1472.298162.NGOv25&source=taf It's an egregious violation of the Constitution, a disgusting infringement upon our due process rights, and has already had a chilling effect on activists and journalists. That's why writer Chris Hedges and six others sued to block it. Shockingly, the Obama administration has consistently supported indefinite detention this year -- signing it into law in the dark of night on New Year's Eve and defending it in court. If we don't do anything, they'll probably keep fighting to protect this law! Click here to tell Obama to quit supporting indefinite detention. http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ndaa_lawsuit_win/?referring_akid=1472.298162.NGOv25&source=taf Thanks! From vdf at juno.com Wed Sep 12 22:51:58 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 05:51:58 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] ad in a 9 to 5 workshop brochure Message-ID: <20120912.225158.24341.1@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I don't know if this is being discussed off-list, but if it isn't, here is some text we might use. The bullet points with Jill's positions are from http://www.jillstein.org/issues. If any of this is acceptable, we need someone to turn it into the photo-ready ad that Cathy needs. (I have neither the software nor the training for that step.) ~*~ Green Party, Santa Clara County Single-Payer Healthcare Coalition and Peninsula Direct Action Present Dr. Jill Stein, Green Party Presidential Candidate Tuesday, September 25th 7:00 pm - 8:30 pm (doors open at 6:30 pm) Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto 505 East Charleston Road Palo Alto, CA 94306 Dr. Jill Stein, Harvard Medical School graduate and single-payer advocate, will discuss the importance of health care as a human right through a Medicare for All system that provides quality comprehensive care, preserves patient choice and puts people before profits. As President, Jill Stein would work to: * Expand women's access to the "morning after" contraception by lifting the Obama Administration's ban. * Ensure equal pay for equal work, ending discrimination based on race, gender, or generation. * Pass the Equal Rights Amendment to forever end discrimination based on gender. Learn more at http://www.jillstein.org/ ~*~ Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:51:56 -0700 From: Cathy Deppe To: Jim Doyle Cc: sosfbay discussion group Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] ad in a 9 to 5 workshop brochure thanks Jim, I do need the photo-ready ad by Friday for the union printer. I would love to have the Green Party Logo in the ad, along with a pitch for Jill Stein that stresses her support for women's rights (equal pay, etc). If you don't want to or can't support additional funding, please do send me an ad by Friday anyway :) Cathy D. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > Cathy Deppe, wife of Alex Walker, is donating $100 in kind > to the Green Party by way of placing a quarter page ad in the > workshop brochure for a workshop the 9 to 5 organisation > will be holding in Palo Alto Saturday September 22-nd. > > She asks of us to provide some material on Jill Stein > for that ad. > > Secondly, she asks if we would be willing to spend $100 > and make it a full page ad. > > Needed: 1) county council approval for the deadline is this coming Friday > AND > 2) someone to furnish the ad content if approved. > > Jim Doyle > -- Cathy Deppe 9to5 California Lead Organizer 630 Shatto PL, 4th FL. Los Angeles, CA 90005 213-201-7029 (office); 408-206-7992 (cell) 213-389-1816 (fax) www.9to5california.org HELPLINE: 1- 800-522-0925 TOLL FREE Change the Workplace, Change the World _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/505174e1d5abb74e12079st04vuc From vdf at juno.com Wed Sep 12 23:40:49 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:40:49 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Request for approval Re: GPSCC proposition endorsements: contacting campaigns Message-ID: <20120912.234049.24341.3@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I request approval from the County Council to submit endorsement forms (both paper and online as indicated in my email below (also archived at http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/2012-August/013641.html)) to the campaigns for the propositions that the GPSCC endorsed in last month's general meeting. If approval is granted I would like to know who should be indicated as an individual contact. I am willing to submit my name and info if that's desirable. Here's the minimum amount of information each endorsement form requires PROP 34 -- name of organization, contact name, email, postal address, phone and a signature PROP 36 -- individual name, email, phone, zip code PROP 37 -- individual primary contact name, email, zip code PROP 39 -- individual name, affiliation ("Company/Organization" for us), company or organization name, email, phone, city PROP 40 -- category ("Organization" for us), individual name, company or organization, email FYI, Prop 37 would like to know if the endorser will send emails to its contact list or make social media posts. An answer is not required, but if we want to do any of that I'll indicate it. Best wishes, Valerie ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Valerie D. Face" Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:00:56 GMT To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC proposition endorsements: contacting campaigns Hi folks, Do we want to publicize any of the GPSCC's proposition endorsements by filling out endorsement forms for any of the appropriate campaigns? If we do, here's some info for endorsing the propositions for which last week's meeting consensed to 4 Yes votes. PROP 34 * From http://www.safecalifornia.org/ * Click Supporters, Endorsements. * Click "Would your congregation or your organization like to endorse Prop. 34? If so, please download, complete, and send in this form." which takes you to * http://www.safecalifornia.org/downloads/SAFE-CA-Endorsement-Form.pdf PROP 36 * From http://www.fixthreestrikes.org/ * Click Endorsements. * Click the "Endorse" button. * Their online form looks like it's geared to individual endorsements, although there is a space for an organization name. * I have emailed info at fixthreestrikes.org asking them how to make organizational endorsements. PROP 37 * From http://www.carighttoknow.org/ * Click Endorsements. * Click "Click Here to Add Your Official Endorsement (Businesses and Organizations, Elected Officials, Health Professionals, Chefs, etc.)" * which takes you to http://www.carighttoknow.org/endorseprop37 * Fill out the online form (Under "Type of Endorsement" select "Government or Political Party"). PROP 39 * From http://www.cleanenergyjobsact.com/ * Click "Endorse Prop 39" which takes you to * http://www.cleanenergyjobsact.com/endorse-prop-39/ * Fill out the online form (Under "Your Affiliation" select "Company/Organization"). PROP 40 * From http://holdpoliticiansaccountable.org/ * Click "Join Us" which takes you to * http://holdpoliticiansaccountable.org/join/ * Fill out the online form OR Click "Download a Sign Up Form" which takes you to -> http://holdpoliticiansaccountable.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/HoldPoliticiansAccountableSignUpForm.pdf Note: I have NOT filled out any of these forms for us. I'm presenting the information in case we want to do this. I suppose I could look into what is required for the "No" campaigns, too. (I thought the "Yes" campaigns would be easiest to identify with a quick search.) Best regards, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America http://www.jillstein.org/ ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/503f0210f1a26210125est02vuc _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From vdf at juno.com Thu Sep 13 00:00:00 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:00:00 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Suggested website update: positions on propositions Message-ID: <20120913.000000.24341.4@webmail05.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I suggest that we add our positions on the propositions to our web page. From my reading of the August meeting notes (archived at http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/2012-August/013621.html) it looks like those positions would be the following: Prop 30: No Consensus (the group was split with some members supporting Yes, some supporting No and some supporting No Position) Prop 31: No Prop 32: No Prop 33: No Prop 34: Yes Prop 35: No Position Prop 36: Yes Prop 37: Yes Prop 38: No Prop 39: Yes Prop 40: Yes My apologies if I've misinterpreted anything (especially Prop 30). It could start out as a simple list just so others know where we stand, but we could add descriptions later if there's the time and desire to do so... Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50518518b281851860fast04vuc From eric at philosopherswheel.com Fri Sep 14 11:45:26 2012 From: eric at philosopherswheel.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:45:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Holistic Arts Fair Message-ID: Come to the 14th annual HOLISTIC ARTS FAIR! September 22 and 23, from 10 AM to 7 PM, at Divine Science Community Center, 1540 Hicks Ave. in San Jose (take Highway 17 to Hamilton Ave., east 2 miles to Hicks Ave.; left about 3 blocks). Experience dozens of life-changing events. Discover today's leading trends in visionary arts, holistic health, human potential, spiritual and psychic awareness, and future alternatives. Receive readings, healings and guidance on the path to health and wholeness. Admission is free to all exhibits and events, and parking is free behind the center and on Hicks Ave. Hear lectures and panels by recognized experts in holistic fields, and sacred music (crystal bowls, guitar, drumming circle). Speakers include Timothy Dunphy (Alchemy of Transformation), Meir Schneider (Improve Your Vision Naturally), Robert Perala (ETs and Divine Blueprint), Lynn Rogers (Edgar Cayce expert and novelist) and others. Over 60 exhibitors will offer products and services covering the full range of today's holistic alternatives. Exhibitors wanted in these fields! Visit our web site at http://philosopherswheel.com for details and the latest updates, or call (408)448-6726 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: logo%20-%20color.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 15777 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: divinesciencecenterfront.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8178 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 14 19:52:06 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:52:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] US Democracy? In-Reply-To: <5053E3B1.9000408@earthlink.net> References: <5053E3B1.9000408@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5053ED56.3020105@earthlink.net> "Report Cites US as Example of World's Failing Democracies" "International commission warns of growing influence of money in politics and attempts to suppress voter turnout" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/14 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 14 23:06:41 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:06:41 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 In-Reply-To: <57CF4DEF-91B3-4162-A9EF-9C07C7878BC1@feinstein.org> References: <57CF4DEF-91B3-4162-A9EF-9C07C7878BC1@feinstein.org> Message-ID: <50541AF1.7070307@earthlink.net> I think this is pretty serious. I hope Richard Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get plenty of help. For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one that gave us the top two primary system. Gerry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700 From: Mike Feinstein To: GPCA Forum From: Richard Winger Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California Green Party activists list, I would sure appreciate it. Obviously it would be most useful sent to bay area Greens. Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger wrote: From: Richard Winger Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow ruled that the six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay $243,500 to the attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado and other supporters of the top-two system. We asked for reconsideration. The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have the same judge hear the request for reconsideration, even though according to the normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a different judge. And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday, September 17, at 11 a.m. Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young attorney in Fremont, California, is afraid that this same judge is going to impose sanctions on him for even daring to ask for reconsideration. The attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel the only recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as possible, so the judge sees that we have support. Please, if you can possibly come to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday morning, I would really appreciate it. We can meet outside the courthouse. Please let me know if you can come. Thank you very much. Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 _______________________________________________ gpca-forum mailing list gpca-forum at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum From vdf at juno.com Sat Sep 15 00:08:05 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 07:08:05 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein's California Campus Tour Sept 24-27 Message-ID: <20120915.000805.15696.0@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I just noticed earlier this evening that more information on Jill's full tour is available at http://www.jillstein.org/california_campus_tour and http://www.cagreens.org/events/stein-campus-tour-sept-2012 Cheers, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50542a1cca4e92a1c6e0dst02vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 15 23:09:55 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 In-Reply-To: <50541AF1.7070307@earthlink.net> References: <57CF4DEF-91B3-4162-A9EF-9C07C7878BC1@feinstein.org> <50541AF1.7070307@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50556D33.7050205@earthlink.net> I am planning on going to court Monday. Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > I think this is pretty serious. I hope Richard > Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get > plenty of help. > > For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one > that gave us the top two primary system. > > Gerry > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday morning, > September 17 > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700 > From: Mike Feinstein > To: GPCA Forum > > > From: Richard Winger > Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT > To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org > Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list > Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com > > Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California Green Party > activists list, I would sure appreciate it. Obviously it would be > most useful sent to bay area Greens. > > Richard Winger > 415-922-9779 > PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 > > --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger wrote: > > From: Richard Winger > Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list > To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM > > Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow ruled that the > six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay $243,500 to the > attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado and other > supporters of the top-two system. We asked for reconsideration. > > The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have the same judge > hear the request for reconsideration, even though according to the > normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a different judge. > And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday, September 17, > at 11 a.m. Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young attorney in Fremont, > California, is afraid that this same judge is going to impose > sanctions on him for even daring to ask for reconsideration. The > attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel the only > recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as possible, so > the judge sees that we have support. Please, if you can possibly come > to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday morning, I would > really appreciate it. We can meet outside the courthouse. Please let > me know if you can come. Thank you very much. > > Richard Winger > 415-922-9779 > PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 > > _______________________________________________ > gpca-forum mailing list > gpca-forum at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Sep 16 11:23:12 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:23:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a court challenge in SF on Monday morning, September 17 In-Reply-To: <5055F9CC.4030208@igc.org> References: <50556D33.7050205@earthlink.net> <5055A3EA.1010600@prodsyse.com> <5055F9CC.4030208@igc.org> Message-ID: <50561910.5010702@prodsyse.com> Hi, Gerry, et al.: I forwarded Gerry's email to the Occupy San Jos? list. Dave Kadlecek replied that at most two of the plaintiffs hit with this quarter-million dollar judgment were Greens and gave links to more info. I modified the Wikipedia article on that, and I'm taking a proposal on it to the Occupy San Jos? General assembly at noon today. Below please see Dave's comments and my reply. Spencer ############################## Hi, Dave, et al.: Thanks for the corrections AND the links to further information. Using the links, I updated the Wikipedia article on "California Proposition 14 (2010)" to summarize the information in those two links. If you have time to review that article and see other changes that you feel should be made, please let me know. (Note, however, that Wikipedia requires "a neutral point of view" and solid sources for what is stated there.) Next: Revise my proposal for today's General Assembly, print, and take them there by noon. Best Wishes, Spencer On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave Kadlecek wrote: > Spencer and all, > > I also urge those of you who can make it to the court hearing in San > Francisco tomorrow to go, but I have a correction to Spencer's email and > a bit of elaboration. > > The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen) wasn't by "6 Green Party activists", but by > six people, at least four of whom are not Greens (Richard Winger, the > publisher of Ballot Access News, is a Libertarian; Steve Chessin, the > chair of Californians for Electoral Reform, is a Democrat; and Rodney > Martin (Reform Party) and Jeff Mackler (Socialist Action) are with > non-ballot qualified parties). > > As you may remember, Prop 14 brought about the "top two" primary system, > first implemented state-wide this year, which is why there will be only > two candidates on the ballot (and no write-in space) in every race for > U.S. Congress (both House and Senate) and the state legislature (both > State Senate and Assembly) this November. If you don't like Dianne > Feinstein and don't want to vote for her Republican opponent, your only > choice this November will be to abstain; you can't vote for a third > party candidate, because none will be on the ballot, and you can't even > write in "Mickey Mouse" because there won't be a write-in space for U.S. > Senate. > > The lawsuit directly challenged two specific aspects of SB 6, the bill > that implemented Prop 14 (which was a constitutional amendment): one > that said candidates from non-ballot qualified parties couldn't have > their party listed on the ballot, and another that said write-in votes > could not be counted in general elections. The judge ruled against the > plaintiffs in lower court, and the legislature changed the relevant law > (basically to put into the state Elections Code the interpretations of > ambiguous language the Secretary of State had made) while appeals were > in process. > > There were two sets of lawyers on the other side in the case, one from > the Attorney General's office, representing the Secretary of State (the > defendant), and the other from the Nielsen Merksamer law firm > representing Abel Maldonado (who got it on the ballot by extorting the > Democrats in the legislature for his vote on the 2009 budget deal) and > the other sponsors of Prop 14. For those who aren't otherwise aware, the > Nielsen Merksamer law firm is based in San Rafael, with a major part of > their practice representing landlords challenging local rent control > laws and other tenant protections; they used to represent the state > Republican Party when that party's apparatus was controlled primarily by > business interests, but when the social conservative types (i.e., the > ones who really are vehemently anti-gay, anti-choice and anti-immigrant, > as opposed to just using those issues to win votes) took over the party > organization, they switched law firms. It's the Nielsen Merksamer > lawyers who were awarded a quarter million dollars. They didn't trust > the state's lawyers to properly defend the ballot measure they backed, > but instead of going after the state for attorney's fees, they went > after the plaintiffs who had sued the state. > > For more information, see > "http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/" > > and "http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148". > > /Dave Kadlecek > > > Spencer Graves wrote: > >> Hello, All: >> >> The Green party is asking for support against an outrageous >> judgment in court in San Francisco at Larkin and McAllister next >> Monday at 10:45 AM for an 11 AM hearing. The 6 Green Party activists >> who challenged Prop 14 (the top two primary system) have been ordered >> to pay $243,500 to the attorneys representing the top two system. >> Prop 14 effectively eliminates third parties from the general >> election, except in rare cases where a third party candidate actually >> gets in the top two. Other states that have this have seen a decline >> in membership of third parties. >> >> This punitive settlement may not stop here, because the same >> judge who assessed this punitive settlement will also hear the >> request request for reconsideration, even though normal court >> procedures require a different judge. Moreover, this hearing was >> moved up from October to tomorrow, Monday, September 17. The >> attorney challenging this decision is concerned that he may be levied >> a similar punitive judgment for daring to challenge the $243,500 >> settlement. For more details, see below. >> >> I believe this is an attack on democracy. If you agree and can >> make it to court in San Francisco next Monday, I encourage you to do so. >> >> Thanks, >> Spencer >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens >> help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 >> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:55 -0700 >> From: Gerry Gras >> To: GPSCC >> >> >> >> I am planning on going to court Monday. >> >> Gerry >> >> >> Gerry Gras wrote: >>> >>> I think this is pretty serious. I hope Richard >>> Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get >>> plenty of help. >>> >>> For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one >>> that gave us the top two primary system. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday >>> morning, >>> September 17 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700 >>> From: Mike Feinstein >>> To: GPCA Forum >>> >>> >>> From: Richard Winger >>> Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT >>> To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com >>> >>> Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California Green Party >>> activists list, I would sure appreciate it. Obviously it would be >>> most useful sent to bay area Greens. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 >>> >>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger wrote: >>> >>> From: Richard Winger >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM >>> >>> Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow ruled that the >>> six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay $243,500 to the >>> attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado and other >>> supporters of the top-two system. We asked for reconsideration. >>> >>> The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have the same judge >>> hear the request for reconsideration, even though according to the >>> normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a different judge. >>> And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday, September 17, >>> at 11 a.m. Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young attorney in Fremont, >>> California, is afraid that this same judge is going to impose >>> sanctions on him for even daring to ask for reconsideration. The >>> attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel the only >>> recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as possible, so >>> the judge sees that we have support. Please, if you can possibly come >>> to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday morning, I would >>> really appreciate it. We can meet outside the courthouse. Please let >>> me know if you can come. Thank you very much. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 16 15:46:31 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:46:31 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] history of "imminent" nuclear threats from Iran Message-ID: <505656C7.8030209@sbcglobal.net> Professor Juan Cole in his blog Informed Comment http://www.juancole.com/ wrote Netanyahu in 1992: Iran close to having nuclear bomb Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is trapped in reflection theory. He was allegedly himself involved in illegally smuggling nuclear triggers out of the US, and he assumes that Iran desperately wants a nuclear weapon as well. But Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has given a fatwa against nukes, and there is no solid intelligence pointing to an Iranian weapons program. Iran can?t be close to having a weapon if it doesn?t have a weapons program. He has no credibility left on such warnings. Reprint edn.: Scott Peterson at the Christian Science Monitor did a useful timeline for dire Israeli and US predictions of an imminent Iranian nuclear weapon, beginning 20 years ago. 1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was ?3 to 5 years? from having a nuclear weapon. 1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV. 1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000. 1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003. The full article is at http://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/print/content/view/print/422252 From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Sun Sep 16 19:31:16 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? In-Reply-To: <50561910.5010702@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1347849076.18525.YahooMailClassic@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Does Occupy SJ have anything planned for Sept 17th?? I looked on all of their available web pages and I didn't see anything except the Sept 15th foreclosure summit.? I suppose I will wander down to City Hall anyway sometime tomorrow to hold up my signs about derivatives and free education. ? John Thielking --- On Sun, 9/16/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a court challenge in SF on Monday morning, September 17 To: "Gerry Gras" Cc: "GPSCC" Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:23 AM Hi, Gerry, et al.: ??? ? I forwarded Gerry's email to the Occupy San Jos? list.? Dave Kadlecek replied that at most two of the plaintiffs hit with this quarter-million dollar judgment were Greens and gave links to more info.? I modified the Wikipedia article on that, and I'm taking a proposal on it to the Occupy San Jos? General assembly at noon today. ??? ? Below please see Dave's comments and my reply. ??? ? Spencer ############################## Hi, Dave, et al.: ? ? ???Thanks for the corrections AND the links to further information. ? Using the links, I updated the Wikipedia article on "California Proposition 14 (2010)" to summarize the information in those two links. ? If you have time to review that article and see other changes that you feel should be made, please let me know. (Note, however, that Wikipedia requires "a neutral point of view" and solid sources for what is stated there.) ? ? ???Next:? Revise my proposal for today's General Assembly, print, and take them there by noon. ? ? ???Best Wishes, ? ? ???Spencer On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave Kadlecek wrote: > Spencer and all, > > I also urge those of you who can make it to the court hearing in San > Francisco tomorrow to go, but I have a correction to Spencer's email and > a bit of elaboration. > > The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen) wasn't by "6 Green Party activists", but by > six people, at least four of whom are not Greens (Richard Winger, the > publisher of Ballot Access News, is a Libertarian; Steve Chessin, the > chair of Californians for Electoral Reform, is a Democrat; and Rodney > Martin (Reform Party) and Jeff Mackler (Socialist Action) are with > non-ballot qualified parties). > > As you may remember, Prop 14 brought about the "top two" primary system, > first implemented state-wide this year, which is why there will be only > two candidates on the ballot (and no write-in space) in every race for > U.S. Congress (both House and Senate) and the state legislature (both > State Senate and Assembly) this November. If you don't like Dianne > Feinstein and don't want to vote for her Republican opponent, your only > choice this November will be to abstain; you can't vote for a third > party candidate, because none will be on the ballot, and you can't even > write in "Mickey Mouse" because there won't be a write-in space for U.S. > Senate. > > The lawsuit directly challenged two specific aspects of SB 6, the bill > that implemented Prop 14 (which was a constitutional amendment): one > that said candidates from non-ballot qualified parties couldn't have > their party listed on the ballot, and another that said write-in votes > could not be counted in general elections. The judge ruled against the > plaintiffs in lower court, and the legislature changed the relevant law > (basically to put into the state Elections Code the interpretations of > ambiguous language the Secretary of State had made) while appeals were > in process. > > There were two sets of lawyers on the other side in the case, one from > the Attorney General's office, representing the Secretary of State (the > defendant), and the other from the Nielsen Merksamer law firm > representing Abel Maldonado (who got it on the ballot by extorting the > Democrats in the legislature for his vote on the 2009 budget deal) and > the other sponsors of Prop 14. For those who aren't otherwise aware, the > Nielsen Merksamer law firm is based in San Rafael, with a major part of > their practice representing landlords challenging local rent control > laws and other tenant protections; they used to represent the state > Republican Party when that party's apparatus was controlled primarily by > business interests, but when the social conservative types (i.e., the > ones who really are vehemently anti-gay, anti-choice and anti-immigrant, > as opposed to just using those issues to win votes) took over the party > organization, they switched law firms. It's the Nielsen Merksamer > lawyers who were awarded a quarter million dollars. They didn't trust > the state's lawyers to properly defend the ballot measure they backed, > but instead of going after the state for attorney's fees, they went > after the plaintiffs who had sued the state. > > For more information, see > "http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/" > > and "http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148". > > /Dave Kadlecek > > > Spencer Graves wrote: > >> Hello, All: >> >>? ? ???The Green party is asking for support against an outrageous >> judgment in court in San Francisco at Larkin and McAllister next >> Monday at 10:45 AM for an 11 AM hearing.? The 6 Green Party activists >> who challenged Prop 14 (the top two primary system) have been ordered >> to pay $243,500 to the attorneys representing the top two system. >> Prop 14 effectively eliminates third parties from the general >> election, except in rare cases where a third party candidate actually >> gets in the top two.? Other states that have this have seen a decline >> in membership of third parties. >> >>? ? ???This punitive settlement may not stop here, because the same >> judge who assessed this punitive settlement will also hear the >> request request for reconsideration, even though normal court >> procedures require a different judge.? Moreover, this hearing was >> moved up from October to tomorrow, Monday, September 17.? The >> attorney challenging this decision is concerned that he may be levied >> a similar punitive judgment for daring to challenge the $243,500 >> settlement.? For more details, see below. >> >>? ? ???I believe this is an attack on democracy.? If you agree and can >> make it to court in San Francisco next Monday, I encourage you to do so. >> >>? ? ???Thanks, >>? ? ???Spencer >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject:? ???Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens >> help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 >> Date:? ???Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:55 -0700 >> From:? ???Gerry Gras >> To:? ???GPSCC >> >> >> >> I am planning on going to court Monday. >> >> Gerry >> >> >> Gerry Gras wrote: >>> >>> I think this is pretty serious.? I hope Richard >>> Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get >>> plenty of help. >>> >>> For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one >>> that gave us the top two primary system. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday >>> morning, >>> September 17 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700 >>> From: Mike Feinstein >>> To: GPCA Forum >>> >>> >>> From: Richard Winger >>> Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT >>> To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com >>> >>> Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California Green Party >>> activists list, I would sure appreciate it.? Obviously it would be >>> most useful sent to bay area Greens. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 >>> >>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger wrote: >>> >>> From: Richard Winger >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM >>> >>> Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow ruled that the >>> six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay $243,500 to the >>> attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado and other >>> supporters of the top-two system.? We asked for reconsideration. >>> >>> The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have the same judge >>> hear the request for reconsideration, even though according to the >>> normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a different judge. >>> And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday, September 17, >>> at 11 a.m.? Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young attorney in Fremont, >>> California, is afraid that this same judge is going to impose >>> sanctions on him for even daring to ask for reconsideration. The >>> attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel the only >>> recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as possible, so >>> the judge sees that we have support.? Please, if you can possibly come >>> to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday morning, I would >>> really appreciate it.? We can meet outside the courthouse. Please let >>> me know if you can come.? Thank you very much. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Sep 16 21:58:43 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:58:43 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fw: court is at Polk & McAllister, not Larkin & McAllister In-Reply-To: <1347827407.89683.YahooMailClassic@web140402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1347827407.89683.YahooMailClassic@web140402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5056AE03.3020707@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fw: court is at Polk & McAllister, not Larkin & McAllister Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:30:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Winger Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com To: gerrygras at earthlink.net Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 --- On *Sun, 9/16/12, Richard Winger //* wrote: From: Richard Winger Subject: court is at Polk & McAllister, not Larkin & McAllister To: erikasf at aol.com Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 1:29 PM I stupidly gave the wrong corner. It is at Polk & McAllister, one block different from what I said before. Richard Winger 415-922-9779 PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Sep 16 22:44:01 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:44:01 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SC Green web site updated: Jill Stein Single Payer event flyer, Press Release and event information to post to GPSCC website In-Reply-To: <8CF626A58030439-16D4-70F0C@Webmail-d122.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF626A58030439-16D4-70F0C@Webmail-d122.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5056B8A1.10305@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: The web site of the Santa Clara County Greens has now been updated to discuss the Jill Stein event, Tuesday a week, Sept. 25. If any modifications seem appropriate, please let me know. Best Wishes, Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: Jill Stein Single Payer event flyer, Press Release and event information to post to GPSCC website Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:35:37 -0400 (EDT) From: mkmusic03 at aol.com To: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com /Hi Spencer,/ // /See below the description of our Jill Stein event. Please post it to our GPSCC website along with the press release and flyer PDF./ // /I think for a good visual on our sight I would have the description first with flyer PDF and then post the press release after the description./ // /See press release below. (after event description)/ // /Thank you./ // /Merriam/ // // // -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Sep 17 12:14:50 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? In-Reply-To: <1347849076.18525.YahooMailClassic@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1347909290.22712.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> My current plan is to go to City Hall at 3PM-5PM today.? Anyone else who wants to join me is welcome. ? John Thielking --- On Sun, 9/16/12, John Thielking wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? To: "Spencer Graves" Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 7:31 PM Does Occupy SJ have anything planned for Sept 17th?? I looked on all of their available web pages and I didn't see anything except the Sept 15th foreclosure summit.? I suppose I will wander down to City Hall anyway sometime tomorrow to hold up my signs about derivatives and free education. ? John Thielking --- On Sun, 9/16/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a court challenge in SF on Monday morning, September 17 To: "Gerry Gras" Cc: "GPSCC" Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:23 AM Hi, Gerry, et al.: ??? ? I forwarded Gerry's email to the Occupy San Jos? list.? Dave Kadlecek replied that at most two of the plaintiffs hit with this quarter-million dollar judgment were Greens and gave links to more info.? I modified the Wikipedia article on that, and I'm taking a proposal on it to the Occupy San Jos? General assembly at noon today. ??? ? Below please see Dave's comments and my reply. ??? ? Spencer ############################## Hi, Dave, et al.: ? ? ???Thanks for the corrections AND the links to further information. ? Using the links, I updated the Wikipedia article on "California Proposition 14 (2010)" to summarize the information in those two links. ? If you have time to review that article and see other changes that you feel should be made, please let me know. (Note, however, that Wikipedia requires "a neutral point of view" and solid sources for what is stated there.) ? ? ???Next:? Revise my proposal for today's General Assembly, print, and take them there by noon. ? ? ???Best Wishes, ? ? ???Spencer On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave Kadlecek wrote: > Spencer and all, > > I also urge those of you who can make it to the court hearing in San > Francisco tomorrow to go, but I have a correction to Spencer's email and > a bit of elaboration. > > The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen) wasn't by "6 Green Party activists", but by > six people, at least four of whom are not Greens (Richard Winger, the > publisher of Ballot Access News, is a Libertarian; Steve Chessin, the > chair of Californians for Electoral Reform, is a Democrat; and Rodney > Martin (Reform Party) and Jeff Mackler (Socialist Action) are with > non-ballot qualified parties). > > As you may remember, Prop 14 brought about the "top two" primary system, > first implemented state-wide this year, which is why there will be only > two candidates on the ballot (and no write-in space) in every race for > U.S. Congress (both House and Senate) and the state legislature (both > State Senate and Assembly) this November. If you don't like Dianne > Feinstein and don't want to vote for her Republican opponent, your only > choice this November will be to abstain; you can't vote for a third > party candidate, because none will be on the ballot, and you can't even > write in "Mickey Mouse" because there won't be a write-in space for U.S. > Senate. > > The lawsuit directly challenged two specific aspects of SB 6, the bill > that implemented Prop 14 (which was a constitutional amendment): one > that said candidates from non-ballot qualified parties couldn't have > their party listed on the ballot, and another that said write-in votes > could not be counted in general elections. The judge ruled against the > plaintiffs in lower court, and the legislature changed the relevant law > (basically to put into the state Elections Code the interpretations of > ambiguous language the Secretary of State had made) while appeals were > in process. > > There were two sets of lawyers on the other side in the case, one from > the Attorney General's office, representing the Secretary of State (the > defendant), and the other from the Nielsen Merksamer law firm > representing Abel Maldonado (who got it on the ballot by extorting the > Democrats in the legislature for his vote on the 2009 budget deal) and > the other sponsors of Prop 14. For those who aren't otherwise aware, the > Nielsen Merksamer law firm is based in San Rafael, with a major part of > their practice representing landlords challenging local rent control > laws and other tenant protections; they used to represent the state > Republican Party when that party's apparatus was controlled primarily by > business interests, but when the social conservative types (i.e., the > ones who really are vehemently anti-gay, anti-choice and anti-immigrant, > as opposed to just using those issues to win votes) took over the party > organization, they switched law firms. It's the Nielsen Merksamer > lawyers who were awarded a quarter million dollars. They didn't trust > the state's lawyers to properly defend the ballot measure they backed, > but instead of going after the state for attorney's fees, they went > after the plaintiffs who had sued the state. > > For more information, see > "http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/" > > and "http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148". > > /Dave Kadlecek > > > Spencer Graves wrote: > >> Hello, All: >> >>? ? ???The Green party is asking for support against an outrageous >> judgment in court in San Francisco at Larkin and McAllister next >> Monday at 10:45 AM for an 11 AM hearing.? The 6 Green Party activists >> who challenged Prop 14 (the top two primary system) have been ordered >> to pay $243,500 to the attorneys representing the top two system. >> Prop 14 effectively eliminates third parties from the general >> election, except in rare cases where a third party candidate actually >> gets in the top two.? Other states that have this have seen a decline >> in membership of third parties. >> >>? ? ???This punitive settlement may not stop here, because the same >> judge who assessed this punitive settlement will also hear the >> request request for reconsideration, even though normal court >> procedures require a different judge.? Moreover, this hearing was >> moved up from October to tomorrow, Monday, September 17.? The >> attorney challenging this decision is concerned that he may be levied >> a similar punitive judgment for daring to challenge the $243,500 >> settlement.? For more details, see below. >> >>? ? ???I believe this is an attack on democracy.? If you agree and can >> make it to court in San Francisco next Monday, I encourage you to do so. >> >>? ? ???Thanks, >>? ? ???Spencer >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject:? ???Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens >> help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 >> Date:? ???Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:55 -0700 >> From:? ???Gerry Gras >> To:? ???GPSCC >> >> >> >> I am planning on going to court Monday. >> >> Gerry >> >> >> Gerry Gras wrote: >>> >>> I think this is pretty serious.? I hope Richard >>> Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get >>> plenty of help. >>> >>> For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one >>> that gave us the top two primary system. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday >>> morning, >>> September 17 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700 >>> From: Mike Feinstein >>> To: GPCA Forum >>> >>> >>> From: Richard Winger >>> Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT >>> To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com >>> >>> Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California Green Party >>> activists list, I would sure appreciate it.? Obviously it would be >>> most useful sent to bay area Greens. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 >>> >>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger wrote: >>> >>> From: Richard Winger >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM >>> >>> Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow ruled that the >>> six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay $243,500 to the >>> attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado and other >>> supporters of the top-two system.? We asked for reconsideration. >>> >>> The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have the same judge >>> hear the request for reconsideration, even though according to the >>> normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a different judge. >>> And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday, September 17, >>> at 11 a.m.? Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young attorney in Fremont, >>> California, is afraid that this same judge is going to impose >>> sanctions on him for even daring to ask for reconsideration. The >>> attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel the only >>> recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as possible, so >>> the judge sees that we have support.? Please, if you can possibly come >>> to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday morning, I would >>> really appreciate it.? We can meet outside the courthouse. Please let >>> me know if you can come.? Thank you very much. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Sep 17 12:19:17 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:19:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? In-Reply-To: <1347909290.22712.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1347909290.22712.YahooMailClassic@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <505777B5.2050904@prodsyse.com> Occupy San Jos? has NOT made any plans for today. We have a committee working to organize something for Oct. 6. If you'd like to help with that, please let me know; I can help you contact the people organizing that. Spencer On 9/17/2012 12:14 PM, John Thielking wrote: > My current plan is to go to City Hall at 3PM-5PM today. Anyone else > who wants to join me is welcome. > John Thielking > > --- On *Sun, 9/16/12, John Thielking //* wrote: > > > From: John Thielking > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? > To: "Spencer Graves" > Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 7:31 PM > > Does Occupy SJ have anything planned for Sept 17th? I looked on > all of their available web pages and I didn't see anything except > the Sept 15th foreclosure summit. I suppose I will wander down to > City Hall anyway sometime tomorrow to hold up my signs about > derivatives and free education. > John Thielking > > --- On *Sun, 9/16/12, Spencer Graves > //* wrote: > > > From: Spencer Graves > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a court challenge in SF on > Monday morning, September 17 > To: "Gerry Gras" > Cc: "GPSCC" > Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:23 AM > > Hi, Gerry, et al.: > > > I forwarded Gerry's email to the Occupy San Jos? list. > Dave Kadlecek > replied that at most two of the plaintiffs hit with this > quarter-million > dollar judgment were Greens and gave links to more info. I > modified the > Wikipedia article on that, and I'm taking a proposal on it to > the Occupy > San Jos? General assembly at noon today. > > > Below please see Dave's comments and my reply. > > > Spencer > > > ############################## > > > Hi, Dave, et al.: > > > Thanks for the corrections AND the links to further > information. > Using the links, I updated the Wikipedia article on "California > Proposition 14 (2010)" to summarize the information in those > two links. > If you have time to review that article and see other > changes that you > feel should be made, please let me know. (Note, however, that > Wikipedia > requires "a neutral point of view" and solid sources for what > is stated > there.) > > > Next: Revise my proposal for today's General Assembly, > print, > and take them there by noon. > > > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > > On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave Kadlecek wrote: > > Spencer and all, > > > > I also urge those of you who can make it to the court > hearing in San > > Francisco tomorrow to go, but I have a correction to > Spencer's email and > > a bit of elaboration. > > > > The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen) wasn't by "6 Green Party > activists", but by > > six people, at least four of whom are not Greens (Richard > Winger, the > > publisher of Ballot Access News, is a Libertarian; Steve > Chessin, the > > chair of Californians for Electoral Reform, is a Democrat; > and Rodney > > Martin (Reform Party) and Jeff Mackler (Socialist Action) > are with > > non-ballot qualified parties). > > > > As you may remember, Prop 14 brought about the "top two" > primary system, > > first implemented state-wide this year, which is why there > will be only > > two candidates on the ballot (and no write-in space) in > every race for > > U.S. Congress (both House and Senate) and the state > legislature (both > > State Senate and Assembly) this November. If you don't like > Dianne > > Feinstein and don't want to vote for her Republican > opponent, your only > > choice this November will be to abstain; you can't vote for > a third > > party candidate, because none will be on the ballot, and you > can't even > > write in "Mickey Mouse" because there won't be a write-in > space for U.S. > > Senate. > > > > The lawsuit directly challenged two specific aspects of SB > 6, the bill > > that implemented Prop 14 (which was a constitutional > amendment): one > > that said candidates from non-ballot qualified parties > couldn't have > > their party listed on the ballot, and another that said > write-in votes > > could not be counted in general elections. The judge ruled > against the > > plaintiffs in lower court, and the legislature changed the > relevant law > > (basically to put into the state Elections Code the > interpretations of > > ambiguous language the Secretary of State had made) while > appeals were > > in process. > > > > There were two sets of lawyers on the other side in the > case, one from > > the Attorney General's office, representing the Secretary of > State (the > > defendant), and the other from the Nielsen Merksamer law firm > > representing Abel Maldonado (who got it on the ballot by > extorting the > > Democrats in the legislature for his vote on the 2009 budget > deal) and > > the other sponsors of Prop 14. For those who aren't > otherwise aware, the > > Nielsen Merksamer law firm is based in San Rafael, with a > major part of > > their practice representing landlords challenging local rent > control > > laws and other tenant protections; they used to represent > the state > > Republican Party when that party's apparatus was controlled > primarily by > > business interests, but when the social conservative types > (i.e., the > > ones who really are vehemently anti-gay, anti-choice and > anti-immigrant, > > as opposed to just using those issues to win votes) took > over the party > > organization, they switched law firms. It's the Nielsen > Merksamer > > lawyers who were awarded a quarter million dollars. They > didn't trust > > the state's lawyers to properly defend the ballot measure > they backed, > > but instead of going after the state for attorney's fees, > they went > > after the plaintiffs who had sued the state. > > > > For more information, see > > > "http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/" > > > > and "http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148". > > > > /Dave Kadlecek > > > > > > Spencer Graves wrote: > > > >> Hello, All: > >> > >> The Green party is asking for support against an > outrageous > >> judgment in court in San Francisco at Larkin and McAllister > next > >> Monday at 10:45 AM for an 11 AM hearing. The 6 Green Party > activists > >> who challenged Prop 14 (the top two primary system) have > been ordered > >> to pay $243,500 to the attorneys representing the top two > system. > >> Prop 14 effectively eliminates third parties from the general > >> election, except in rare cases where a third party > candidate actually > >> gets in the top two. Other states that have this have seen > a decline > >> in membership of third parties. > >> > >> This punitive settlement may not stop here, because > the same > >> judge who assessed this punitive settlement will also hear the > >> request request for reconsideration, even though normal court > >> procedures require a different judge. Moreover, this > hearing was > >> moved up from October to tomorrow, Monday, September 17. The > >> attorney challenging this decision is concerned that he may > be levied > >> a similar punitive judgment for daring to challenge the > $243,500 > >> settlement. For more details, see below. > >> > >> I believe this is an attack on democracy. If you > agree and can > >> make it to court in San Francisco next Monday, I encourage > you to do so. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Spencer > >> > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay > Area Greens > >> help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 > >> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:55 -0700 > >> From: Gerry Gras > > >> To: GPSCC > > >> > >> > >> > >> I am planning on going to court Monday. > >> > >> Gerry > >> > >> > >> Gerry Gras wrote: > >>> > >>> I think this is pretty serious. I hope Richard > >>> Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get > >>> plenty of help. > >>> > >>> For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one > >>> that gave us the top two primary system. > >>> > >>> Gerry > >>> > >>> > >>> -------- Original Message -------- > >>> Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on > Monday > >>> morning, > >>> September 17 > >>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700 > >>> From: Mike Feinstein > > >>> To: GPCA Forum > > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Richard Winger > > >>> Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT > >>> To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org > > >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this > list > >>> Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com > > >>> > >>> Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California > Green Party > >>> activists list, I would sure appreciate it. Obviously it > would be > >>> most useful sent to bay area Greens. > >>> > >>> Richard Winger > >>> 415-922-9779 > >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 > >>> > >>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger > > > wrote: > >>> > >>> From: Richard Winger > > >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this > list > >>> To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com > > >>> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM > >>> > >>> Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow > ruled that the > >>> six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay > $243,500 to the > >>> attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado > and other > >>> supporters of the top-two system. We asked for > reconsideration. > >>> > >>> The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have the > same judge > >>> hear the request for reconsideration, even though > according to the > >>> normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a > different judge. > >>> And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday, > September 17, > >>> at 11 a.m. Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young attorney > in Fremont, > >>> California, is afraid that this same judge is going to impose > >>> sanctions on him for even daring to ask for > reconsideration. The > >>> attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel the only > >>> recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as > possible, so > >>> the judge sees that we have support. Please, if you can > possibly come > >>> to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday > morning, I would > >>> really appreciate it. We can meet outside the courthouse. > Please let > >>> me know if you can come. Thank you very much. > >>> > >>> Richard Winger > >>> 415-922-9779 > >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 17 13:13:56 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:13:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] HOLIDAY PEACE FAIR PLANNING MEETING Message-ID: <50578484.1000208@sbcglobal.net> Green Party representative needed for Holiday Peace Fair planing meeting. We will have the first 2012 Holiday Peace Fair planning and decision meeting on Thursday, October 4, 5:30-6:30 PM at the San Jose Peace and Justice Center. In order to get the flyer and other publicity started, we need to make at least one major decision at this meeting or VERY SOON afterwards. PLEASE SEND YOUR INPUT for the following decision if you or someone else from your organization cannot attend the October 4 meeting. [Caroline can not make it.] We need to decide on the beneficiary organization(s). At the Oct. 4 meeting, we'll also discuss how to focus on the *30th HPF anniversary,* the plan for entertainment, and several other matters. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Sep 17 14:37:52 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:37:52 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] =?iso-8859-1?q?Occupy_San_Jos=E9_will_have_some_pres?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ence_at_City_Hall_starting_at_3_PM_today?= In-Reply-To: <863b5e05-cd0f-4912-90fe-02397da263fe@googlegroups.com> References: <863b5e05-cd0f-4912-90fe-02397da263fe@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <50579830.4000809@prodsyse.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [occupy-san-jose:4639] If only I had written SEPTEMBER 17 Re: October 17, Occupy Wall Street "One Year Anniversary Weekend" Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:25:11 -0700 (PDT) From: White Noise Reply-To: occupy-san-jose at googlegroups.com To: occupy-san-jose at googlegroups.com Myself and others will be at San Jose City Hall, starting at 3pm, in solidarity with Occupy Wall Street. ESPECIALLY, for the arrest of artist Molly Crapabble, http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=14330 http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/09/17/molly-crabapple-arrested-at-ows-protest/ http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2012/09/molly-crabapple-arrested-in-occupy-anniversary-protest/ http://boingboing.net/2012/09/17/artist-molly-crabapple-among-t.html #FreeMollyCrabapple -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Occupy San Jose" group. To post to this group, send email to occupy-san-jose at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to occupy-san-jose+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/occupy-san-jose?hl=en-US. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Sep 17 15:49:05 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:49:05 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: RE: Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5057A8E1.4020408@prodsyse.com> Peninsula Direct Action (formed by members of Occupy San Jos? and Occupy Redwood City) will hold an event at the Redwood City City Hall at 5 PM; see below. Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:53:54 -0700 From: iq4rent To: , CC: , PDA is doing a solidarity event at RWC city hall starting at 5pm. 1017 Middlefield Road, Redwood City. Please spread the word :) I think there should be events in as many places as possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:19:17 -0700 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; iq4rent at hotmail.com; chudbabies at gmail.com Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Occupy San Jos? has NOT made any plans for today. We have a committee working to organize something for Oct. 6. If you'd like to help with that, please let me know; I can help you contact the people organizing that. Spencer On 9/17/2012 12:14 PM, John Thielking wrote: My current plan is to go to City Hall at 3PM-5PM today. Anyone else who wants to join me is welcome. John Thielking --- On *Sun, 9/16/12, John Thielking / /* wrote: From: John Thielking Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? To: "Spencer Graves" Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 7:31 PM Does Occupy SJ have anything planned for Sept 17th? I looked on all of their available web pages and I didn't see anything except the Sept 15th foreclosure summit. I suppose I will wander down to City Hall anyway sometime tomorrow to hold up my signs about derivatives and free education. John Thielking --- On *Sun, 9/16/12, Spencer Graves / /* wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Hearing re. a court challenge in SF on Monday morning, September 17 To: "Gerry Gras" Cc: "GPSCC" Date: Sunday, September 16, 2012, 11:23 AM Hi, Gerry, et al.: I forwarded Gerry's email to the Occupy San Jos? list. Dave Kadlecek replied that at most two of the plaintiffs hit with this quarter-million dollar judgment were Greens and gave links to more info. I modified the Wikipedia article on that, and I'm taking a proposal on it to the Occupy San Jos? General assembly at noon today. Below please see Dave's comments and my reply. Spencer ############################## Hi, Dave, et al.: Thanks for the corrections AND the links to further information. Using the links, I updated the Wikipedia article on "California Proposition 14 (2010)" to summarize the information in those two links. If you have time to review that article and see other changes that you feel should be made, please let me know. (Note, however, that Wikipedia requires "a neutral point of view" and solid sources for what is stated there.) Next: Revise my proposal for today's General Assembly, print, and take them there by noon. Best Wishes, Spencer On 9/16/2012 9:09 AM, Dave Kadlecek wrote: > Spencer and all, > > I also urge those of you who can make it to the court hearing in San > Francisco tomorrow to go, but I have a correction to Spencer's email and > a bit of elaboration. > > The lawsuit (Field v. Bowen) wasn't by "6 Green Party activists", but by > six people, at least four of whom are not Greens (Richard Winger, the > publisher of Ballot Access News, is a Libertarian; Steve Chessin, the > chair of Californians for Electoral Reform, is a Democrat; and Rodney > Martin (Reform Party) and Jeff Mackler (Socialist Action) are with > non-ballot qualified parties). > > As you may remember, Prop 14 brought about the "top two" primary system, > first implemented state-wide this year, which is why there will be only > two candidates on the ballot (and no write-in space) in every race for > U.S. Congress (both House and Senate) and the state legislature (both > State Senate and Assembly) this November. If you don't like Dianne > Feinstein and don't want to vote for her Republican opponent, your only > choice this November will be to abstain; you can't vote for a third > party candidate, because none will be on the ballot, and you can't even > write in "Mickey Mouse" because there won't be a write-in space for U.S. > Senate. > > The lawsuit directly challenged two specific aspects of SB 6, the bill > that implemented Prop 14 (which was a constitutional amendment): one > that said candidates from non-ballot qualified parties couldn't have > their party listed on the ballot, and another that said write-in votes > could not be counted in general elections. The judge ruled against the > plaintiffs in lower court, and the legislature changed the relevant law > (basically to put into the state Elections Code the interpretations of > ambiguous language the Secretary of State had made) while appeals were > in process. > > There were two sets of lawyers on the other side in the case, one from > the Attorney General's office, representing the Secretary of State (the > defendant), and the other from the Nielsen Merksamer law firm > representing Abel Maldonado (who got it on the ballot by extorting the > Democrats in the legislature for his vote on the 2009 budget deal) and > the other sponsors of Prop 14. For those who aren't otherwise aware, the > Nielsen Merksamer law firm is based in San Rafael, with a major part of > their practice representing landlords challenging local rent control > laws and other tenant protections; they used to represent the state > Republican Party when that party's apparatus was controlled primarily by > business interests, but when the social conservative types (i.e., the > ones who really are vehemently anti-gay, anti-choice and anti-immigrant, > as opposed to just using those issues to win votes) took over the party > organization, they switched law firms. It's the Nielsen Merksamer > lawyers who were awarded a quarter million dollars. They didn't trust > the state's lawyers to properly defend the ballot measure they backed, > but instead of going after the state for attorney's fees, they went > after the plaintiffs who had sued the state. > > For more information, see > "http://www.ballot-access.org/2012/09/15/some-supporters-of-top-two-open-primary-take-punitive-action-to-crush-opponents-with-crippling-legal-fees/" > > and "http://electionlawblog.org/?p=38148". > > /Dave Kadlecek > > > Spencer Graves wrote: > >> Hello, All: >> >> The Green party is asking for support against an outrageous >> judgment in court in San Francisco at Larkin and McAllister next >> Monday at 10:45 AM for an 11 AM hearing. The 6 Green Party activists >> who challenged Prop 14 (the top two primary system) have been ordered >> to pay $243,500 to the attorneys representing the top two system. >> Prop 14 effectively eliminates third parties from the general >> election, except in rare cases where a third party candidate actually >> gets in the top two. Other states that have this have seen a decline >> in membership of third parties. >> >> This punitive settlement may not stop here, because the same >> judge who assessed this punitive settlement will also hear the >> request request for reconsideration, even though normal court >> procedures require a different judge. Moreover, this hearing was >> moved up from October to tomorrow, Monday, September 17. The >> attorney challenging this decision is concerned that he may be levied >> a similar punitive judgment for daring to challenge the $243,500 >> settlement. For more details, see below. >> >> I believe this is an attack on democracy. If you agree and can >> make it to court in San Francisco next Monday, I encourage you to do so. >> >> Thanks, >> Spencer >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens >> help in SF on Monday morning, September 17 >> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:09:55 -0700 >> From: Gerry Gras > >> To: GPSCC > >> >> >> >> I am planning on going to court Monday. >> >> Gerry >> >> >> Gerry Gras wrote: >>> >>> I think this is pretty serious. I hope Richard >>> Winger (Ballot Access News) and the other 5 get >>> plenty of help. >>> >>> For those who don't remember, Prop 14 is the one >>> that gave us the top two primary system. >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: [gpca-forum] Need Bay Area Greens help in SF on Monday >>> morning, >>> September 17 >>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:39:49 -0700 >>> From: Mike Feinstein > >>> To: GPCA Forum > >>> >>> >>> From: Richard Winger > >>> Date: September 14, 2012 8:19:06 PM PDT >>> To: mfeinstein at feinstein.org >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> Reply-To: richardwinger at yahoo.com >>> >>> Dear Mike, if you could pass this on to any California Green Party >>> activists list, I would sure appreciate it. Obviously it would be >>> most useful sent to bay area Greens. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 >>> >>> --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Richard Winger > wrote: >>> >>> From: Richard Winger > >>> Subject: I badly hope to obtain help from everyone on this list >>> To: lpsf-activists at yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 8:13 PM >>> >>> Some of you know that on August 1, Judge Curtis Karnow ruled that the >>> six of us who challenged Prop. 14 in court, must pay $243,500 to the >>> attorneys who intervened in the case for Abel Maldonado and other >>> supporters of the top-two system. We asked for reconsideration. >>> >>> The attorney for the intervenors has arranged to have the same judge >>> hear the request for reconsideration, even though according to the >>> normal court procedures, we were supposed to have a different judge. >>> And he got the hearing moved up from October to Monday, September 17, >>> at 11 a.m. Our attorney, Gautam Dutta, a young attorney in Fremont, >>> California, is afraid that this same judge is going to impose >>> sanctions on him for even daring to ask for reconsideration. The >>> attorney for the other side is very cocky and we feel the only >>> recourse is to try to have as many friends in court as possible, so >>> the judge sees that we have support. Please, if you can possibly come >>> to court at Larkin and McAllister at 10:45 am Monday morning, I would >>> really appreciate it. We can meet outside the courthouse. Please let >>> me know if you can come. Thank you very much. >>> >>> Richard Winger >>> 415-922-9779 >>> PO Box 470296, San Francisco Ca 94147 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Sep 17 16:23:11 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:23:11 CDT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: RE: Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Message-ID: <203371.55479.qm@smtp106-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> i am at san jose city hall right now. ch2 and ch 14 filmed my sign. the ch 2 cameraman said that ch 2 had another crew in sj filming 'occupy' at 230. some occupy sj folks showed up and said there was no official occupy sj action planned for today in sj though it is not clear if the one guy who does the friday bank actions is doing anything. tune in to ch 2 or 14 to see if i got on. spencer could you please forward this to the list as my phone is only sending this to you even though i hit 'reply all' thanks. john thielking -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:49:26 pm To: "GPSCC" From: "Spencer Graves" Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: RE: Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Peninsula Direct Action (formed by members of Occupy San Jos? and Occupy Redwood City) will hold an event at the Redwood City City Hall at 5 PM; see below. Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:53:54 -0700 From: iq4rent To: , CC: , PDA is doing a solidarity event at RWC city hall starting at 5pm. 1017 Middlefield Road, Redwood City. Please spread the word :) I think there should be events in as many places as possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:19:17 -0700 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; iq4rent at hotmail.com; chudbabies at gmail.com Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Occupy San Jos? has NOT made any pl From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Mon Sep 17 17:05:55 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:05:55 CDT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: RE: Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Message-ID: <793495.4968.qm@smtp115-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> one more update. we now have 3 people from osj in front of sj city hall. i will be here until 6pm. john thielking -----Original Message----- Date: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:49:26 pm To: "GPSCC" From: "Spencer Graves" Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: RE: Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Peninsula Direct Action (formed by members of Occupy San Jos? and Occupy Redwood City) will hold an event at the Redwood City City Hall at 5 PM; see below. Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:53:54 -0700 From: iq4rent To: , CC: , PDA is doing a solidarity event at RWC city hall starting at 5pm. 1017 Middlefield Road, Redwood City. Please spread the word :) I think there should be events in as many places as possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:19:17 -0700 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com CC: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; iq4rent at hotmail.com; chudbabies at gmail.com Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy SJ Plans For Sept 17th? Occupy San Jos? has NOT made any pl From vdf at juno.com Tue Sep 18 00:41:04 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:41:04 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cheapest direct mail method Message-ID: <20120918.004104.14009.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, FYI, another union printing option is Silicon Valley Union Prints (http://www.svunionprints.com/). Cathy Deppe said they came through with a great price for the program booklet for Saturday's 9to5 organizing event. Best regards, Valerie Please note: message attached ____________________________________________________________ "Strange Fruit Burns Fat" Burns 12 lbs of Fat Every 28 Days. Can it Work For You Too? http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/505826511300b26501a49st03vuc -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: John Thielking Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Cheapest direct mail method Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Size: 10963 URL: From vdf at juno.com Tue Sep 18 00:57:56 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:57:56 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [GPCA-CCWG] GPUS campaign Webinar: Getting Out the Vote (GOTV) Message-ID: <20120918.005756.14009.2@webmail08.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, FYI, another GPUS Coordinated Campaign Committee discussion on campaigning. If it's like the last one, "webinar" isn't the right description. The discussion on "Planning for Election Day" with Jesse Townley earlier this month was a conference call. So don't let the word "webinar" keep you from signing up if a phone call would work for you. Happy campaigning, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Mike Feinstein To: CCWG Listserv Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:35:05 -0700 Subject: [GPCA-CCWG] GPUS campaign Webinar: Getting Out the Vote (GOTV) The Coordinated Campaign Committee invites you to our second monthly webinar... GETTING OUT THE VOTE Tuesday, October 2nd, 9-10 PM Eastern This webinar is designed for candidates, and those active in Green campaigns, to learn more about campaign strategy. This particular session will focus on: * mobilizing voters prior to, and on, Election Day * action steps during the final week of the campaign * targeting constituencies * and use of volunteers for things such as door knocking and phone banking This call is also ideal for those coordinating local efforts on the Stein/Honkala campaign. This webinar will be led by CCC member Hillary Kane. Read more about Hillary below. To RSVP, fill out this form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFJ6YjYwek9pUUNXYjFoV3c3TkdRNkE6MA #gid=0 Hillary Kane is a member of the Green Party of Pennsylvania Steering Committee as well as the Treasurer it's newly created FEC Committee. Last year, she served as Treasurer for Cheri Honkala's Sheriff Campaign in Philadelphia, and has volunteered and served in other capacities with six other prior Green Party campaigns. She is also currently a Pennsylvania delegate to the Green Party's National Committee, the co-chair of the GPUS Annual National Meeting Committee, and a member of the GPUS Coordinated Campaign Committee. She has also served as Chair of the Green Parties of both Philadelphia and Pennsylvania. And save the date for the November call -- DEBRIEFING YOUR CAMPAIGN -- Tuesday, November 13, 9 PM Eastern. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ gpca-ccwg mailing list gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg ____________________________________________________________ "Strange Fruit Burns Fat" Burns 12 lbs of Fat Every 28 Days. Can it Work For You Too? http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50582a9b2c98f2a9a5771st02vuc From carolineyacoub at att.net Tue Sep 18 13:53:03 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Agenda Message-ID: <1348001583.54782.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> It's that time again! Please let me know about any agenda items you have for next week's Green meeting. We will be discussing the Foreclosure Summit and the Jill Stein event. We will be looking for someone to go to the Peace Fair meetings, because Caroline is going to be tied up on Thursday nights for the next two months. Let's hear some more interesting stuff that's going on. Caroline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Tue Sep 18 21:13:19 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 04:13:19 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SC Green web site updated: Jill Stein Single Payer ev ent flyer, Press Release and event information to post to GPSCC websit e Message-ID: <20120918.211319.29537.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Hi Spencer, Near the end of the press release text it says, For information about Jill Stein and her campaign go to jillstein.org" I suggest making "jillstein.org" a hyperlink so folks can easily visit Jill's website. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50594687cb58e468702c5st01vuc From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed Sep 19 09:02:19 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:02:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SC Green web site updated: Jill Stein Single Payer ev ent flyer, Press Release and event information to post to GPSCC websit e In-Reply-To: <20120918.211319.29537.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120918.211319.29537.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <5059EC8B.2010601@prodsyse.com> Hi, Valerie: Done. Thanks. Spencer On 9/18/2012 9:13 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote: > Hi Spencer, > > Near the end of the press release text it says, For information about Jill Stein and her campaign go to jillstein.org" I suggest making "jillstein.org" a hyperlink so folks can easily visit Jill's website. > > Best wishes, > Valerie > > > ~*~*~*~ > Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America > Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Woman is 57 But Looks 27 > Mom publishes simple facelift trick that angered doctors... > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50594687cb58e468702c5st01vuc > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 19 11:41:08 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:41:08 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] green pages ready to order Message-ID: <505A11C4.3060905@sbcglobal.net> This from an email from the GP Fall 2012 Issue of Green Pages Has Arrived! Place your order now for the latest edition of Green Pages, the national newspaper of the Green Party. Click here to order 100 copies or here for 50 copies! Once upoon a time as I recall we consensed to a standing order. Now, was that for Green Pages or for Green Focus? Trouble is, I do not remember how many were to be ordered. Left to my own I would order 200. Remind me please of what was agreed to. Thank you, Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 19 12:32:49 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:32:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] agenda item Message-ID: <505A1DE1.4010108@sbcglobal.net> Distribution of flyers at 1) 9to5 regional conference 2) holistic arts fair Jim and Merriam 1 minute each info, lessons learned From tnharter at aceweb.com Wed Sep 19 20:47:26 2012 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:47:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] green pages ready to order In-Reply-To: <505A11C4.3060905@sbcglobal.net> References: <505A11C4.3060905@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <505A91CE.8060801@aceweb.com> On 09/19/2012 11:41 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > This from an email from the GP > > Fall 2012 Issue of Green Pages Has Arrived! > > Place your order now for the latest edition of Green Pages, > the national newspaper of the Green Party. > > Click here to order 100 copies > > or here for 50 copies! > > > Once upoon a time as I recall we consensed to a standing order. > Now, was that for Green Pages or for Green Focus? > > Trouble is, I do not remember how many were to be ordered. > > Left to my own I would order 200. > > Remind me please of what was agreed to. > > Thank you, > Jim Doyle I think ordering one bundle is plenty. We don't use that many. (min about 50 copies) -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added pi in the sky above google HQ in Mountain View. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore's on an Arkansas quarter. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Wed Sep 19 21:07:44 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:07:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] green pages ready to order In-Reply-To: <505A91CE.8060801@aceweb.com> References: <505A11C4.3060905@sbcglobal.net> <505A91CE.8060801@aceweb.com> Message-ID: <505A9690.2000100@prodsyse.com> I don't recall about the difference between Green Pages and Green Focus, but I agree with Tian: As I recall our earlier decision, it was to purchase the minimum quantity each time. If we still have copies of a previous edition, we pitch them: Don't advertise the fact that we couldn't get rid of the previous edition! If we run out early, we can order more -- or increase the order the next time. Spencer On 9/19/2012 8:47 PM, Tian Harter wrote: > On 09/19/2012 11:41 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: >> This from an email from the GP >> >> Fall 2012 Issue of Green Pages Has Arrived! >> >> Place your order now for the latest edition of Green Pages, >> the national newspaper of the Green Party. >> >> Click here to order 100 copies >> >> or here for 50 copies! >> >> >> Once upoon a time as I recall we consensed to a standing order. >> Now, was that for Green Pages or for Green Focus? >> >> Trouble is, I do not remember how many were to be ordered. >> >> Left to my own I would order 200. >> >> Remind me please of what was agreed to. >> >> Thank you, >> Jim Doyle > I think ordering one bundle is plenty. We don't use that many. > (min about 50 copies) > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 19 21:32:28 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:32:28 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Executive vs Judiciary In-Reply-To: <505A9C31.9080507@earthlink.net> References: <505A9C31.9080507@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <505A9C5C.4030101@earthlink.net> FYI, "Administration Asks Appeals Court for Stay on Indefinite Detention Ban, Triggers Constitutional Showdown" http://truth-out.org/news/item/11581-administration-asks-appeals-court-for-stay-on-indefinite-detention-ban-triggers-constitutional-showdown Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 19 21:45:14 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:45:14 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpca-forum] More and more good press for the Stein campaign In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <505A9F5A.7010806@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpca-forum] More and more good press for the Stein campaign Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:01:34 -0700 From: Sanda Everette To: gpca-forum but I thought this was particularly cool....in an industry website "Which Political Party Best Supports The Credit Union Movement" Credit Unions Online: http://www.creditunionsonline.com/news/2 012/which-political-party-best-supports-the-credit-union-movement.html#.UFj8U_annbc.facebook Sanda Everette, GPCA delegation to GPUS, GPCA Coordinating Committee How can what's already rotten be spoiled? (Nader 2000, Frank Young, WV, 2012) "The politics of fear have brought us everything we were afraid of." (Dr. Jill Stein, 2012)* * -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ gpca-forum mailing list gpca-forum at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 20 17:49:22 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:49:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] green pages Message-ID: <505BB992.4090802@sbcglobal.net> I have ordered one bundle of 50 Green Pages from GP of the US. From vdf at juno.com Thu Sep 20 23:24:23 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 06:24:23 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein in Berkeley, Sat. 9/22, 6:30-8:30 pm Message-ID: <20120920.232423.7551.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, FYI, Jill Stein has an event in Berkeley this Saturday, September 22, 6:30-8:30 pm, at the Kahlil for Mayor of Berkeley Community Campaign Headquarters, 1551 University Ave in Berkeley. Full announcement at: http://www.jillstein.org/berkeley_fundraiser_with_kahlil_jacobs_fantauzzi This event might be a good alternative for folks who can't make it to Palo Alto on Tuesday. I'm also referring indecisive folks to http://www.jillstein.org/events since all of the campus tour events have been broken up into individual listings there, and who knows when they'll add something new (like this Berkeley event). ;-) Cheers, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/505c08dd7be468dd3d12st04vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 22 22:31:49 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 22:31:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Progressive strategy Message-ID: <505E9EC5.8030002@earthlink.net> I think this article has some ideas that Greens might find useful talking to other progressives: "Recognizing the Importance of Goldwater, or Learning to Analyze and Practice Progressive Politics in their Historical Dimension" by Thomas S. Harrington http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/22-1 Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Sep 23 19:09:05 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:09:05 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: The obstacles we're overcoming: Read this Washington Post story In-Reply-To: <505f6cd59ff4d_35f6fd36f81577c@worker1.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> References: <505f6cd59ff4d_35f6fd36f81577c@worker1.nbuild.3dna.managedmachine.com.mail> Message-ID: <505FC0C1.2020205@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jill Stein Subject: The obstacles we're overcoming: Read this Washington Post story Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:11:01 +0000 Size: 20722 URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Mon Sep 24 18:07:54 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Agenda for Sept. meeting Message-ID: <1348535274.75104.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 9/24/12, Caroline Yacoub wrote: Agenda? for September 27 meeting ? 7:00-7:30? So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for this time, but I'm sure we would like to get together to talk about the Jill Stein event. There will be snacks. ? ? 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time keeper, vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. ? 7:35 Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. ? 7:50 Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle ? 8:00 Ratify John Thielking as a County Councilor ? 8:10?What did everybody do to get ready for the Jill Stein event? How successful was that? Merriam Kathaleen et al. ? 8:30 Foreclosure Summit--Spencer et al ? 8:40 Holistic Arts Fair--Merriam ? 8:45 ?9-5 Regional conference Jim Doyle and Merriam? ? 8:50? Putting our proposition recommendations on our website--Valerie ???? 30--yes ???? 31--no???? ???? 32--no ???? 33--no ???? 34--yes ???? 35--no position ???? 36--yes ???? 37--yes ???? 38--no ???? 39--yes ???? 40--yes ? there appears to be some dissension in the CA Green ranks about the positions on the propositions, but these were ours. ? 9:05 Peace Fair. Meeting is October 4, 5:30-6:30 at the Peace and Justice Center. We need somebody to go to this. ? 9:15? New literature--we have new literature about health care in Spanish and Vietnamese. We will also be getting new Green Pages. Would somebody like to organize this stuff? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Sep 25 09:39:25 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:39:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Agenda for Sept. meeting In-Reply-To: <1348535274.75104.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348535274.75104.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5061DE3D.8040101@prodsyse.com> Hi, Carline, et al.: 1. The statewide Green Party email list has been working to develop statements describing the Green party position and supportive reasoning. I believe these statement will be posted to the web -- but I don't know when that will happen. I just submitted a request for that to , and I hope to be able to report their response. 2. Might it be feasible to add an item to discuss "wiki.cagreens.org"? The position statements on the propositions have undergone a protracted and painful process, with Michael Feinstein holding the official draft. Most of this work could have been avoided if the master text had been editable at least within on Google Docs or wiki.cagreens.org. I believe the ideal process would be to have wiki.cagreens.org open to all, with people invited to analyze each proposition as it is approved for the ballot and post their observations on the Wiki. Wikipedia has developed very good procedures for managing conflict over issues like this, and I think we can benefit from using their rules. 3. Might it be feasible to add a report on the activities of the Committee Against Political Repression? Homeland Security is engaged in a witch hunt against people who engaged on peaceful assembly protesting the Republican National Convention in Chicago 4 years ago. In my judgment, the government's actions in this arena continue the general McCartyite attacks on our First Amendment rights embodied in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of last year on top of the Effective Death Penalty and Anti-Terrorist Act of 1996, etc. I don't think we need more than 5 minutes for either of the latter two of these three items, and I would hope that the first could be included in the 15 minutes allotted to a discussion of " Putting our proposition recommendations on our website". Thanks, Spencer On 9/24/2012 6:07 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > > --- On *Mon, 9/24/12, Caroline Yacoub //* wrote: > > > > Agenda for September 27 meeting > 7:00-7:30 So far as I know, we don't have a speaker lined up for > this time, but I'm sure we would like to get together to talk > about the Jill Stein event. There will be snacks. > 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify facilitator, note taker, time > keeper, vibes watcher and agenda preparer for next meeting. > 7:35 Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. > 7:50 Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle > 8:00 Ratify John Thielking as a County Councilor > 8:10 What did everybody do to get ready for the Jill Stein event? > How successful was that? > Merriam Kathaleen et al. > 8:30 Foreclosure Summit--Spencer et al > 8:40 Holistic Arts Fair--Merriam > 8:45 9-5 Regional conference Jim Doyle and Merriam > 8:50 Putting our proposition recommendations on our website--Valerie > 30--yes > 31--no > 32--no > 33--no > 34--yes > 35--no position > 36--yes > 37--yes > 38--no > 39--yes > 40--yes > there appears to be some dissension in the CA Green ranks about > the positions on the propositions, but these were ours. > 9:05 Peace Fair. Meeting is October 4, 5:30-6:30 at the Peace and > Justice Center. We need somebody to go to this. > 9:15 New literature--we have new literature about health care in > Spanish and Vietnamese. We will also be getting new Green Pages. > Would somebody like to organize this stuff? > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 25 14:03:01 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:03:01 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] implicit agenda items Message-ID: <50621C05.4060206@sbcglobal.net> Response to item 1 Wait until it is there, then announce it. No discussion necessary. You have taken the step(s) needed to keep it moving. Response to item 2 Feasible? The discussion would center around information such as what is it? how do you do it? who will do it. In my opinion a formal presentation describing something that is new to most of the participants would better serve the purpose. Response to item 3 If you want to report on this topic submit it as an agenda item with a time allocation. And include in the report what action the GPSCC should take once they have heard the report. And a question: does your phrase 'might it be feasible' mean you want it on the agenda and that you want to be the presenter thereof? 1. The statewide Green Party email list has been working to develop statements describing the Green party position and supportive reasoning. I believe these statement will be posted to the web -- but I don't know when that will happen. I just submitted a request for that to , and I hope to be able to report their response. 2. Might it be feasible to add an item to discuss "wiki.cagreens.org"? The position statements on the propositions have undergone a protracted and painful process, with Michael Feinstein holding the official draft. Most of this work could have been avoided if the master text had been editable at least within on Google Docs or wiki.cagreens.org. I believe the ideal process would be to have wiki.cagreens.org open to all, with people invited to analyze each proposition as it is approved for the ballot and post their observations on the Wiki. Wikipedia has developed very good procedures for managing conflict over issues like this, and I think we can benefit from using their rules. 3. Might it be feasible to add a report on the activities of the Committee Against Political Repression? Homeland Security is engaged in a witch hunt against people who engaged on peaceful assembly protesting the Republican National Convention in Chicago 4 years ago. In my judgment, the government's actions in this arena continue the general McCartyite attacks on our First Amendment rights embodied in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of last year on top of the Effective Death Penalty and Anti-Terrorist Act of 1996, etc. I don't think we need more than 5 minutes for either of the latter two of these three items, and I would hope that the first could be included in the 15 minutes allotted to a discussion of " Putting our proposition recommendations on our website". Thanks, Spencer On 9/24/2012 6:07 PM, C From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Tue Sep 25 16:35:12 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:35:12 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-votes] Position statements to the web? In-Reply-To: <50623CC0.30509@prodsyse.com> References: <50623CC0.30509@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <50623FB0.9050903@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: The positions of the California Greens on the ballot initiatives are now on the web at "www.cagreens.org" -> Elections -> Propositions. (See below.) I'm happy to put something on the Santa Clara Greens web site about this, but I prefer to have someone else tell me what is desired. Beyond this, if anyone thinks they might be willing to learn about maintaining web sites, I'd be pleased to have help. We could use a more vibrant and more frequently updated web site than what we have. I have not felt I could spare the time to do more. If you are interested, please let me know. If someone is to be given passwords, etc., to change things on that web site, I think they should be known and accepted by the Santa Clara Greens at one of our monthly meetings. Beyond that, I'm willing to provide training, tech support, etc. Best Wishes, Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [gpca-votes] Position statements to the web? Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:22:40 -0700 From: Spencer Graves To: Victoria Ashley CC: gpca-votes at cagreens.org Thanks for posting the info. That's a big help, I think. SANDA: Thanks for explaining how to find the info. I doubtless should have known -- and should have checked before I asked on the list about it -- but didn't. (Sometimes it's easier to expose one's ignorance than do more homework ;-) Spencer On 9/25/2012 1:31 PM, Victoria Ashley wrote: > Thanks, posted! > > -- Vic > > If money is speech so are tents > > --- On *Tue, 9/25/12, Sanda Everette > //* wrote: > > > From: Sanda Everette > Subject: Re: [gpca-votes] Position statements to the web? > To: "gpca-votes at cagreens.org" > Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 11:18 AM > > Can I presume that you know that our positions are already posted > online, though not all the position statements yet. It is a long > process. There are more to come. So Spencer and others, if you > gave people the link to where our position statements are then > when it gets updated with the rest of the statements, they would > have it. http://www.cagreens.org/elections/propositions > > And if you want to give them directions on how to find it rather > than the actual link, The link to this page can be found in the > drop-down menu under elections on our homepage. > > Sent from an alternative communications device > > On Sep 25, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Victoria Ashley > > wrote: > >> Yes, I'm getting people looking for our Voter Guides on our site >> now also because the State Voter Information Guides just got >> mailed out. >> >> -- Victoria >> >> If money is speech so are tents >> >> --- On *Tue, 9/25/12, Spencer Graves >> /> >/* wrote: >> >> >> From: Spencer Graves > > >> Subject: [gpca-votes] Position statements to the web? >> To: "gpca-votes at cagreens.org >> " >> > > >> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 9:16 AM >> >> Hello, All: >> >> >> Will the position statements be posted to the web? If >> yes, when and where? >> >> >> Might it be feasible to post the current preliminary >> version in the next day or two, so I can share that with >> people who are asking now? >> >> >> This Thursday, the Santa Clara County Greens have their >> monthly meeting. It would be great to be able to announce >> this then. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Spencer >> >> >> -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >> President and Chief Technology Officer >> Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >> 751 Emerson Ct. >> San Jos?, CA 95126 >> ph: 408-655-4567 >> web: www.structuremonitoring.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gpca-votes mailing list >> gpca-votes at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> gpca-votes mailing list >> gpca-votes at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > gpca-votes mailing list > gpca-votes at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes > > > > _______________________________________________ > gpca-votes mailing list > gpca-votes at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-votes -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Tue Sep 25 22:33:00 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Talk by Pres. nom. Dr. Jill Stein on Single Payer Health Care a big success! Message-ID: <1348637580.94899.YahooMailNeo@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thanks especially to Merriam for cooking up the event and Carolyn and all who made it a success. ?We had decent turnout and Dr. Stein was fabulous as always. ?Hopefully soon we can input our contacts into the CiviCRM data base I ordered from Hugh Esco's (and formerly Cameron Spitzer's) http://CampaignFoundations.com ?and start networking in earnest. ?I was especially pleased that Dr. Stein was very clear that building up the party and the movement is the real goal - that is only just beginning and will continue long after the so-called election comes and goes. Green is GO! Drew ? ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Sep 25 22:53:14 2012 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:53:14 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Talk by Pres. nom. Dr. Jill Stein on Single PayerHealth Care a big success! In-Reply-To: <1348637580.94899.YahooMailNeo@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348637580.94899.YahooMailNeo@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5062984A.2040802@aceweb.com> On 09/25/2012 10:33 PM, Drew wrote: > Thanks especially to Merriam for cooking up the event and Carolyn and > all who made it a success. We had decent turnout and Dr. Stein was > fabulous as always. Hopefully soon we can input our contacts into the > CiviCRM data base I ordered from Hugh Esco's (and formerly Cameron > Spitzer's) http://CampaignFoundations.com and start networking in > earnest. I was especially pleased that Dr. Stein was very clear that > building up the party and the movement is the real goal - that is only > just beginning and will continue long after the so-called election > comes and goes. > > Green is GO! > > Drew > I agree! I thought it worked out really well. There were a lot of people there that I didn't recognize, and also many I'd not seen for a long time. I hope we didn't loose money on it. Thank you so much for all the work! > > ~*~*~*~ > Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America > Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 > Hey! Good idea! I should put something like that in my sig line. Bound to reach someone else that way... -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest addition: Pictures and words from Bike Party's Rocky Horror ride. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore's on a Michigan quarter. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Sep 25 22:58:27 2012 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:58:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Talk by Pres. nom. Dr. Jill Stein on Single PayerHealth Care a big success! In-Reply-To: <1348637580.94899.YahooMailNeo@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348637580.94899.YahooMailNeo@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50629983.40807@aceweb.com> My favorite part of the talk was when she said that "the Green Party stands alone among third parties for being the only one that is still at it after their first round of candidates gave up" or something like that. -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest change: Added pi in the sky above google HQ in Mountain View. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore's on a Michigan quarter. From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Wed Sep 26 09:33:05 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: RE: Foreclosure Town Halls Message-ID: <1348677185.20807.YahooMailClassic@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> FYI.? You should be able to link directly to the files on the homepage now instead of sending files around, if the downloading is set up properly. ? John Thielking --- On Tue, 9/25/12, CJ Holmes wrote: From: CJ Holmes Subject: RE: Foreclosure Town Halls To: "John Thielking" Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 5:25 PM Thanks for the feedback.? All files are now linked on the homepage of www.HOFJ.org.? please share with everyone.? Thanks, cj ? From: John Thielking [mailto:pagesincolor at yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:01 PM To: CJ Holmes Subject: Re: Foreclosure Town Halls ? Having a link to a web site page (even with just files on it) would be better than sending files around.? My antivirus is fairly good, but others' not so much. ? John Thielking --- On Mon, 9/24/12, CJ Holmes wrote: From: CJ Holmes Subject: Foreclosure Town Halls To: "CJ Holmes" Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 6:35 PM This is a ?heads up? about coming Foreclosure Town Halls (FTH) sponsored by Home Owners For Justice in partnership with local non-profits around the country.? ? Please forward this email to everyone you know. ? The official Foreclosure Town Hall Press Release is attached for your information and we?d appreciate your forwarding to all media.? The release includes 20 California County Foreclosure maps.? Also attached is a public service radio announcement, and the link for TV announcements:? http://youtu.be/Kd42AS45cRc ? These first public service announcements are generic ? no specific date, place or time.? As you generate interest and get an FTH scheduled in your area, I will change the ads for your area and send new ads to reflect the date, time, and location for the FTH in your area. ? Next week, 10/2, we will do another press release and new public service radio and tv announcements.? The next press release will focus on the FTH Presentation Participants* and elected officials expected to attend the first FTH in San Bernardino, Oct 13th, 1-4p.? It would be fabulous to have other FTH?s in other areas scheduled prior to next week?s release so those dates and times could be included.? (* Public Banking Institute, Mortgage Resolution Partners invited not yet confirmed, others yet to be determined) ? Please forward these press releases to every print publication, radio and TV station in your area tomorrow, Tuesday 9/25, or as soon as possible.? We need to blanket the media with these coming events.? It is imperative the public know about the Foreclosure Solutions being presented at the Town Halls and that elected officials attend to learn, ask questions, and get answers. ? ? OTHER ACTIVIST SUGGESTIONS Interview and video tape elected officials asking them if they could be counted on to attend a Foreclosure Town Hall in your area if you got one scheduled, and if they would like to hear solutions to the foreclosure crisis that they could use for their county. ? Call every radio and tv station in your area and insist they publicize the public service announcement for free ? we?re non-profit, and partner with non-profits everywhere, and our communities and elected officials desperately need this information and help. ? Contact the League of Women voters in your area to solicit their support:? http://www.lwv.org/get-involved/local-leagues/California ? Contact the ACCE office in your area to solicit their support:? http://www.calorganize.org/contact ? Contact any organization on the list below ** in your area.? These organizations all signed a March 15th 2012 letter to Demarco demanding FHFA foreclosure policy changes ? and got nothing.? They will definitely be supportive of this effort. ? Find a place to hold an FTH and call CJ to get it on the calendar so it can be publicized. ? Thanks - and may the Force be with us. ??cj ? CJ Holmes, Founder Home Owners For Justice The Most Trusted Name in Real Estate Real Estate Analyst, DRE 01234197 www.HOFJ.org (707) 578-5727 (707) 578-5873 f 818 Mendocino Ave Santa Rosa, CA? 95401 ? ? ** 97 CA Orgs Demand Immediate Foreclosure Policy Changes from FHFA California Reinvestment Coalition Able Works Advocates for Neighbors, Inc. Affordable Housing Services Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment (ACCE) Alliance for a Just Society Asian Inc. Asian Law Caucus Asian Pacific Policy and PlanningCouncil Aspera Housing, Inc. California Alliance for Retired Americans (CARA) California Association for Micro Enterprise Opportunity (CAMEO) California Capital Financial Development Corporation California Coalition for Rural Housing California Resources and Training (CARAT) Causa Justa:Just Cause Center for California Homeowner Association Law City Heights Community Development Corporation Civic Center Barrio Housing Corp. Community Housing Development Corporation Community Housing Improvement Program (CHIP) Community HousingWorks Community Legal Services in East Palo Alto Consumer Action Courage Campaign East Bay Housing Organizations East LA Community Corporation East Palo Alto Council of Tenants Education Fund Empire Justice Center Empowering and Strengthening Ohio?s People EPA CAN DO Fair Housing Council of San Diego Fair Housing Council of San Fernando Valley Fair Housing of Marin HomeownershipSF Housing California Housing and Economic Rights Advocates Housing Resource Center of Monterey County Housing Rights Center of Los Angeles Housing Rights Committee of San Francisco Inland Fair Housing and Mediation Board ISAIAH Jewish Community Action Korean Churches for Community Development LA Voice Law Foundation of Silicon Valley Little Tokyo Service Center Los Angeles Neighborhood Housing Services Massachusetts Communities Action Network Mission Economic Development Agency Montebello Housing Development Corporation Multi Cultural Real Estate Alliance for Urban Change National Association of Consumer Advocates (NACA) National Council of La Raza (NCLR) National Housing Law Project National People?s Action (NPA) Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project (NEDAP) Neighborhood Housing Services of the Inland Empire New Bottom Line New Jersey Citizen Action Non Profit Housing Association of Northern California (NPH) Nueva Esparanza Ohio Fair Lending Operation HOPE Opportunity Fund Orange County Community Housing Corp. Pacific Asian Consortium in Employment (PACE) Partners In Community Building, Inc. People?s Self-Help Housing Corporation Philadelphia Unemployment Project PICO California Project Sentinel Public Counsel Regional Human Rights/Fair Housing Commission Reinvestment Partners Renaissance Entrepreneurship Center Rural Community Assistance Corporation Sacramento Housing Alliance Sacramento Mutual Housing Association San Diego City-County Task Force San Diego Home Loan Counseling and Education Center San Diego Housing Federation S. Hochhausen, USF School of Law Self Help Enterprises South County Housing Southern California Association of Non-Profit Housing (SCANPH) STAND Affordable Housing Strategic Actions for a Just Economy (SAJE) Sustainable Economic Solutions Tenants Together Unity Council Valley Economic Development Center Vermont Slauson EDC Visionary Home Builders Watts/Century Latino Organization Western Center on Law & Poverty Yolo Mutual Housing Association5 ? ? ? ? ? ? ??????????????? ? ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 12147 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 10:49:26 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:49:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Death of an Activist Message-ID: If you've been to any of the big anti-war demos in the last few years, you may have noticed Bea Johnson in her motorized chair. She often fastened one of World Can't Wait's giant "Super-Picket" signs to her seat. She was always humorous and optimistic. She died last week. She'd been in and out of the hospital for a long time. It was a privilege to know her, and I'm sorry she's gone. http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php/home-mainmenu-289/7990-in-memoriam-bea-johnson In this video you can see her protesting the Torture Judge, Jay Bybee, at 0;21, 0:37, 0:56, 1:07, and 1:16. http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/03/13/18640790.php -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 26 15:07:16 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:07:16 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Climate Change In-Reply-To: <50637B54.5020507@earthlink.net> References: <50637B54.5020507@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50637C94.2040000@earthlink.net> Several things relevant to climate change... ==================== Bill McKibben with be touring the country from 11/7 to 12/3: http://math.350.org/ (Click on a city for more info, and to buy tickets.) He will be speaking at Spangenberg Theatre at Gunn High School in Palo Alto on November 10th. ==================== The Yale Project on Climate Change has three new reports in the last two months: http://environment.yale.edu/climate/ - The Political Benefits of Taking a Pro-Climate Stand in 2012 - Climate Change in the Indian Mind - The Potential Impact of Global Warming on the 2012 Presidential Election ==================== Common Dreams: http://www.commondreams.org/ "Fighting the Tar Sands: Day 3 of Direct Action in Texas" "Tar Sands Blockade activists continue to fight TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/26-7 "Big Oil CEO Says Oil Drilling in Arctic Spells 'Disaster'" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/26-4 "Is Climate Change Hell Now Inevitable?" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/25-0 "100 Million Dead, Trillion of Dollars Lost from Climate Change by 2030, Estimates Study" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/26-1 ==================== UK Government report on the Arctic http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmenvaud/171/171.pdf (Conclusions and Recommendations start on page 70.) ==================== Gerry From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 15:12:19 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:12:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] FW: [ppjc] Film: HEIST: Who Stole the American Dream? - 9/27 In-Reply-To: References: <3e5f3789f4d70f276b91ed9e1228e5e7.1407765@e2ma.net>, Message-ID: This movie covers some of the same material as Charles Ferguson's "Inside Job" about the 2008 financial meltdown. It has a broader perspective, covering the last 30 years, and some of the recent developments since Inside Job was released. Very well done! The venue is on North California Ave. To get there, take the pedestrian tunnel under the RR tracks from South California Ave. or, driving, cross over the RR tracks at Churchill or under them at University Ave. Also, it's Thursday, not Tuesday as it says below. Here's confirmation: http://peaceandjustice.org/article.php/Real_Economy_Film_Series To: snug.bug at hotmail.com From: ppjc at peaceandjustice.org Subject: [ppjc] Film: HEIST: Who Stole the American Dream? - 9/27 Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:06:33 -0500 If you're having trouble viewing this email, you may see it online. Share This: PENINSULA PEACE AND JUSTICE CENTER www.PeaceandJustice.org A series of great films, followed by group discussions, delving deeply into how the economy really works ? and for whom. Tomorrow evening! HEIST: Who Stole the American Dream? A 2012 New York Times Critic's Pick TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 7:30 PM Social Hall, First Baptist Church 305 N. California Avenue, Palo Alto ( map) Free and open to all. Contributions will be requested. Wheelchair accessible. Click for complete details "HEIST earnestly paints the picture of a democracy slowly and methodically being nudged toward oligarchy with help from all sides." ?Mindy Farabee, LA Times "Perhaps the best film yet about the roots of today?s economic conditions in the U.S., domination of public policy by corporate interests, and grassroots resistance that has emerged in the past few years." ?TheWorkSite.org HEIST..."has the virtue of taking the long view of a crisis that recent films like ?Inside Job? and ?Too Big to Fail? have only sketchily explored." ?Stephen Holden, New York Times Pssst ... Use the handy "share" icons at the top of this message to help spread the word! Thanks. 305 N. California Avenue | Palo Alto, CA 94301 US This email was sent to snug.bug at hotmail.com. To ensure that you continue receiving our emails, please add us to your address book or safe list. manage your preferences | opt out using TrueRemove? Got this as a forward? Sign up to receive our future emails. EmailNow powered by Emma _______________________________________________ activists mailing list activists at lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/activists -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00001 URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 26 15:44:09 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:44:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Climate Change In-Reply-To: <50637C94.2040000@earthlink.net> References: <50637B54.5020507@earthlink.net> <50637C94.2040000@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50638539.2070002@earthlink.net> FYI, 350.org is providing a template flyer: http://math.350.org/resources-2/ Gerry Gerry Gras wrote: > > Several things relevant to climate change... > > ==================== > > Bill McKibben with be touring the country > from 11/7 to 12/3: > > http://math.350.org/ > > (Click on a city for more info, and to buy > tickets.) > > He will be speaking at Spangenberg Theatre > at Gunn High School in Palo Alto on November 10th. > > ==================== > > The Yale Project on Climate Change has three new > reports in the last two months: > > http://environment.yale.edu/climate/ > > - The Political Benefits of Taking a Pro-Climate Stand > in 2012 > - Climate Change in the Indian Mind > - The Potential Impact of Global Warming on the 2012 > Presidential Election > > ==================== > > Common Dreams: > http://www.commondreams.org/ > > "Fighting the Tar Sands: Day 3 of Direct Action in Texas" > "Tar Sands Blockade activists continue to fight > TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/26-7 > > "Big Oil CEO Says Oil Drilling in Arctic Spells 'Disaster'" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/26-4 > > "Is Climate Change Hell Now Inevitable?" > http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/25-0 > > "100 Million Dead, Trillion of Dollars Lost from > Climate Change by 2030, Estimates Study" > http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/09/26-1 > > ==================== > > UK Government report on the Arctic > http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmenvaud/171/171.pdf > > > (Conclusions and Recommendations start on page 70.) > > ==================== > > Gerry > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Wed Sep 26 18:04:16 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:04:16 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Close Election? Not? Why ...? Message-ID: <5063A610.4040402@earthlink.net> "This Presidential Race Should Never Have Been This Close" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/09/26-8 Basically about how bad all the mainstream candidates are. Gerry From vdf at juno.com Thu Sep 27 02:40:13 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:40:13 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "my" agenda item & some website ramblings Message-ID: <20120927.024013.8225.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, In the last agenda I saw on this list there was an item, with my name on it, about posting our positions on the propositions on the GPSCC website. I did not request that agenda item. I don't even know if I will be at the meeting. I'll try to make it, but I must emphasize that it looks unlikely. I did suggest posting our positions on the website in an earlier email to this list (http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/2012-September/013701.html). I think that's just a good thing to do in an election year, and the earlier the better. Since it looked like our county took positions during the August meeting, but they were not on our the website, and I didn't know where things stood, I wanted to mention it in case there had been an oversight. In my opinion, if the website will say something in addition to Yes/No/No Position for each proposition, that additional text would best be written by some of the folks who attended the meeting where the positions were taken. In another email I volunteered to fill out paper and online endorsement forms for the propositions that it appeared we unanimously supported (http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/2012-September/013700.html). That offer still stands. I won't do anything without authorization. Drew has sent emails to the list about getting a new website started using Drupal and CiviCRM. I'm interested in volunteering as part of a team that works on that new system and am waiting to hear more about what's happening, who might be involved, etc. In the past I've been part of teams that worked on our current website. I'm not interested in doing that anymore, but I hope that the information on our website will be reasonably current and accurate. A while ago I sent some ideas for content updates to Jim Doyle because he asked me off-list. I realize that implementing any suggestions is work for someone, and at the time it sounded like there were plans to hire a student to work on the website. That was the context of the discussion. My suggestions were just about making the content current and accurate and not about using any particular new technology or feature. That being said, I think that one of the reasons our web teams have stayed small is that in the end the responsibility tends to fall on a very small group of people who (at least) know some basic HTML and UNIX file manipulation (or perhaps know a great deal more) and have the time and inclination to do some of the work. To post very basic content on a Drupal website you don't have to learn HTML and UNIX file manipulation, and that ease of use might be how we could get more people to help with a new website. If more people got comfortable adding basic content (and took the responsibility to add it), the more technically-inclined members of our group might have more time and energy to dig into the details of adding new features or changing the overall design. Tasks that might be more interesting to them but that the rest of the group wouldn't want to take on. Such tasks require more time for study and planning and become hard to do if you are also the only person who has to keep up with making all of the basic content updates. So maybe a new system could help us by getting more people involved -- or maybe not. You never know what folks will end up doing, but you can't know until you try, so that's why I told Drew that I thought the potential use of Drupal and CiviCRM was a step in the right direction. We get to see if we can create something more interesting with more people involved. Anyway, I didn't intend for any of my recent suggestions to mean simply dumping a whole lot of work on Spencer. I wasn't sure if he was still the only person working on the website and was very busy, or if there was a process or content issue that I wasn't aware of, or something else. I just hoped that folks would see the need to have content that is current and relevant to the election that's rapidly approaching. As for what we'll do in the future, I look forward to that discussion. Having more people involved is key, whether we stick with the old system or move to a new one. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ Refinance for 1.750%/2.926% APR Loans under 729K usually qualify for US GOV backed refinance programs http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5064204d1521b204c6cd6st04vuc From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Thu Sep 27 07:41:34 2012 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:41:34 -0000 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC CC email list In-Reply-To: <1342787731.20150.YahooMailClassic@web111106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1342787731.20150.YahooMailClassic@web111106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50187E9F.5090200@truffula.sj.ca.us> What is it that's unclear about "Too many recipients to the message?" On 07/20/2012 05:35 AM, John Thielking wrote: > Too many recipients to the message From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Sep 27 08:07:22 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:07:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC CC email list In-Reply-To: <50187E9F.5090200@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <1342787731.20150.YahooMailClassic@web111106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <50187E9F.5090200@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <50646BAA.1020004@prodsyse.com> Hi, Cameron: What's the threshold? Spencer On 7/31/2012 5:55 PM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > > > What is it that's unclear about "Too many recipients to the message?" > > > > On 07/20/2012 05:35 AM, John Thielking wrote: >> Too many recipients to the message > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Thu Sep 27 08:44:47 2012 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:44:47 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC CC email list In-Reply-To: <50646BAA.1020004@prodsyse.com> References: <1342787731.20150.YahooMailClassic@web111106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <50187E9F.5090200@truffula.sj.ca.us> <50646BAA.1020004@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <5064746F.3040007@truffula.sj.ca.us> The list owner can set that. It's six right now. http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/sosfbay-discuss/privacy/recipient http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/sosfbay-discuss/?VARHELP=privacy/recipient/max_num_recipients or see "Ceiling on acceptable number of recipients for a posting." here http://staff.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html This is a defense against an attack we used to see quite a lot in the internicene feuding among the Greens. People would include one of our lists in a large set of recipients pulled carelessly out of their address book. One of the (often non-Green) recips would flame back (at Reply-to All) and of course his message would be rejected. But the original poster would reply to the flame, and that would be posted, and you'd get a voluminous bad vibes email string. Someone coupled grns-usa-forum to a Nation magazine discuss list and the noise went on for a couple of weeks, and at least 20% of the members unsubscribed from grns-usa-forum. On 09/27/2012 08:07 AM, Spencer Graves wrote: > Hi, Cameron: What's the threshold? Spencer > > > On 7/31/2012 5:55 PM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: >> >> >> What is it that's unclear about "Too many recipients to the message?" >> >> >> >> On 07/20/2012 05:35 AM, John Thielking wrote: >>> Too many recipients to the message >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Sep 27 08:57:14 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:57:14 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] "my" agenda item & some website ramblings In-Reply-To: <20120927.024013.8225.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120927.024013.8225.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <5064775A.2040406@prodsyse.com> On 9/27/2012 2:40 AM, Valerie D. Face wrote: > Hi folks, > > In the last agenda I saw on this list there was an item, with my name on it, about posting our positions on the propositions on the GPSCC website. I did not request that agenda item. I don't even know if I will be at the meeting. I'll try to make it, but I must emphasize that it looks unlikely. > > I did suggest posting our positions on the website in an earlier email to this list (http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/2012-September/013701.html). I think that's just a good thing to do in an election year, and the earlier the better. Since it looked like our county took positions during the August meeting, but they were not on our the website, and I didn't know where things stood, I wanted to mention it in case there had been an oversight. In my opinion, if the website will say something in addition to Yes/No/No Position for each proposition, that additional text would best be written by some of the folks who attended the meeting where the positions were taken. > > In another email I volunteered to fill out paper and online endorsement forms for the propositions that it appeared we unanimously supported (http://lists.cagreens.org/pipermail/sosfbay-discuss/2012-September/013700.html). That offer still stands. I won't do anything without authorization. > > Drew has sent emails to the list about getting a new website started using Drupal and CiviCRM. I'm interested in volunteering as part of a team that works on that new system and am waiting to hear more about what's happening, who might be involved, etc. > > In the past I've been part of teams that worked on our current website. I'm not interested in doing that anymore, but I hope that the information on our website will be reasonably current and accurate. A while ago I sent some ideas for content updates to Jim Doyle because he asked me off-list. I realize that implementing any suggestions is work for someone, and at the time it sounded like there were plans to hire a student to work on the website. That was the context of the discussion. My suggestions were just about making the content current and accurate and not about using any particular new technology or feature. > > That being said, I think that one of the reasons our web teams have stayed small is that in the end the responsibility tends to fall on a very small group of people who (at least) know some basic HTML and UNIX file manipulation (or perhaps know a great deal more) and have the time and inclination to do some of the work. To post very basic content on a Drupal website you don't have to learn HTML and UNIX file manipulation, and that ease of use might be how we could get more people to help with a new website. > > If more people got comfortable adding basic content (and took the responsibility to add it), the more technically-inclined members of our group might have more time and energy to dig into the details of adding new features or changing the overall design. Tasks that might be more interesting to them but that the rest of the group wouldn't want to take on. Such tasks require more time for study and planning and become hard to do if you are also the only person who has to keep up with making all of the basic content updates. > > So maybe a new system could help us by getting more people involved -- or maybe not. You never know what folks will end up doing, but you can't know until you try, so that's why I told Drew that I thought the potential use of Drupal and CiviCRM was a step in the right direction. We get to see if we can create something more interesting with more people involved. > > Anyway, I didn't intend for any of my recent suggestions to mean simply dumping a whole lot of work on Spencer. To my knowledge, I'm the only person who has made changes to that web site since at least 2010. Cameron and I experimented some with a content management system (CMS) but never achieved a critical mass. Marne was supposed to help bring up Drupal for us. She may have done so for the state Green party and tried to so so for the Santa Clara Greens. I remember an incident where our web content completely disappeared -- then was restored after some screaming. If that had been managed more gracefully, we might have Drupal going there now. Drupal is a free, open-source CMS (Wikipedia, "Drupal"). CiviCRM is a for "customer relationship management" (Wikipedia, "CiviCRM"). I'm for anything that could get more people involved in maintaining and enhancing our web site. > I wasn't sure if he was still the only person working on the website and was very busy, or if there was a process or content issue that I wasn't aware of, or something else. I just hoped that folks would see the need to have content that is current and relevant to the election that's rapidly approaching. My process has been to post some version of whatever people send me to post. Figuring out what to post -- and getting group consensus on what should be posted -- is most of the work. If others do that, I've been providing the final step of implementation. > > As for what we'll do in the future, I look forward to that discussion. Having more people involved is key, whether we stick with the old system or move to a new one. Agreed. Spencer > > Best wishes, > Valerie > > > ~*~*~*~ > Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America > Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events > First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Refinance for 1.750%/2.926% APR > Loans under 729K usually qualify for US GOV backed refinance programs > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5064204d1521b204c6cd6st04vuc > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 27 11:43:28 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:43:28 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] web site hit count Message-ID: <50649E50.2070800@sbcglobal.net> The GPSCC web site's main page has a hit counter at the bottom of the page. I just checked a moment ago and the counter was at 13,330. The hit counter was started in January 2010 so for the past two years and nine months the average daily hit count is about 13.3. There is also a hit counter at the bottom of the left hand column on the contacts page which currently shows 2,520 for an average of 2.5 accesses per day for the past two years and nine months. What conclusion should we draw from this low level of usage? From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Sep 27 12:13:34 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] web site hit count In-Reply-To: <50649E50.2070800@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1348773214.10142.YahooMailClassic@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Don't rely too heavily on hit counters on web pages that may be using javascript or something like that to record hits.? I have found these to be notoriously unreliable.? The flag counter on www.peacemovies.com records about 1 in 20 of the actual hits to the homepage (comparing the hit counter results for the homepage to the analog site stats that I have for the entire site in my back office). If there is a back office for the GP web site that records hits to each page of the site we should use that to gauge how many real "hits" there are on any one page.? Impressions on a hit counter may not register if someone is using firefox instead of IE or if their security settings are set too high or if they are using ad blocking software or if they are using a cell phone.? Just my two cents.? For reference, my site has been getting about 20-30 hits per day.?If you want to get fancy, you can add code to each page that will enable google to compile site stats for you that should be as reliable as the back office stats, possibly. Ask someone who knows more than I do how to set that up. ?Thanks. ? Sincerely, ? John Thielking --- On Thu, 9/27/12, Jim Doyle wrote: From: Jim Doyle Subject: [GPSCC-chat] web site hit count To: "sosfbay discussion group" Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 11:43 AM The GPSCC web site's main page has a hit counter at the bottom of the page. I just checked a moment ago and the counter was at 13,330. The hit counter was started in January? 2010 so for the past two years and nine months the average daily hit count is about 13.3. There is also a hit counter at the bottom of the left hand column on the contacts page which currently shows 2,520 for an average of 2.5 accesses per day for the past two years and nine months. What conclusion should we draw from this low level of usage? _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Thu Sep 27 16:37:33 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] web site hit count In-Reply-To: <1348773214.10142.YahooMailClassic@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <50649E50.2070800@sbcglobal.net> <1348773214.10142.YahooMailClassic@web111111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1348789053.15852.YahooMailNeo@web124501.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Our web site is very .... simple (I'm being nice). ?So given that we haven't been great about keeping it up to date and that its not very visually appealing what we can conclude from our hit counters is... almost nothing can be concluded. ?But help is on the way. ?There are a number of Content Management Systems (CMS), one of the most popular being Drupal. ?A CMS makes it easy for anyone (with a just a modicum of computer literacy). ?Here's an example of what can be done with Drupal?https://www.arcsfoundation.org/. ?I am contributing a new Drupal system to our party. It also have CiviCRM (the CRM part stands for Constituent Relations Management. ?Here's is a detailed description:?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CiviCRM) is essentially a database focused on helping us effectively work with Greens in our county, providing us with the tools we need to run campaigns and events.? ? With an easier to use, more interesting web site content and visuals people will have a more compelling reason to use our web site. ?? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 >________________________________ > From: John Thielking >To: sosfbay discussion group ; Jim Doyle >Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:13 PM >Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] web site hit count > > >Don't rely too heavily on hit counters on web pages that may be using javascript or something like that to record hits.? I have found these to be notoriously unreliable.? The flag counter on www.peacemovies.com records about 1 in 20 of the actual hits to the homepage (comparing the hit counter results for the homepage to the analog site stats that I have for the entire site in my back office). If there is a back office for the GP web site that records hits to each page of the site we should use that to gauge how many real "hits" there are on any one page.? Impressions on a hit counter may not register if someone is using firefox instead of IE or if their security settings are set too high or if they are using ad blocking software or if they are using a cell phone.? Just my two cents.? For reference, my site has been getting about 20-30 hits per day.?If you want to get fancy, you can add code to each page that will enable google to compile site stats for you that should be as reliable as the back office stats, possibly. Ask someone who knows more than I do how to set that up. ?Thanks. >? >Sincerely, >? >John Thielking > >--- On Thu, 9/27/12, Jim Doyle wrote: > > >>From: Jim Doyle >>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] web site hit count >>To: "sosfbay discussion group" >>Date: Thursday, September 27, 2012, 11:43 AM >> >> >>The GPSCC web site's main page has a hit counter >>at the bottom of the page. >> >>I just checked a moment ago and the counter was at 13,330. >>The hit counter was started in January? 2010 so for the past >>two years and nine months the average daily hit count is >>about 13.3. >> >>There is also a hit counter at the bottom of the left hand column >>on the contacts page which currently shows 2,520 for an average >>of 2.5 accesses per day for the past two years and nine months. >> >>What conclusion should we draw from this low level of usage? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Thu Sep 27 18:57:58 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:57:58 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein event outreach notes Message-ID: <20120927.185758.30494.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I know there's supposed to be a discussion tonight of the Jill Stein event, perhaps including what outreach did and didn't work. I won't be able to make it to the meeting, but here's some info on the outreach I did -- grist for the mill. Posted the announcement on the following websites: Bay Area Events - http://www.bayareaevents.com Indy Bay - http://www.indybay.org Patch.com - http://patch.com Political Events Calendar - http://PoliticalEventsCalendar.org SanJose.com - http://www.sanjose.com Yahoo - http://upcoming.yahoo.com Yelp - http://www.yelp.com Zvents - http://www.zvents.com Sent the announcement to the following Green Party email lists @cagreens.org: sosfbay-discuss sosfbay-news gpsmc-d gpca-forum cal-forum Phone & email outreach to registered Greens in zip codes 95014, 95050, 95051, 95053, 95054, 95117, 95128, 95129 and 95130 (all of Cupertino and Santa Clara, parts of western San Jose; phone calls were to area code 408 only): Total actually got some kind of message: 252 *** Total Greens I tried to reach via phone and/or email: 358 Total Greens in those zip codes overall: 611 There are many ways you can slice and dice my notes, and I don't want to overwhelm folks with detail, but here's some. Methods I used to reach Greens: A - Tried email only: 67 (3 bad email addresses) B - Tried phone only: 285 (103 unreachable) 65 permanently unreachable (disconnected, wrong number, etc.) 37 temporarily unreachable (line busy, no answer, etc.) C - Tried email & phone: 6 So, attempted = 358 assumed reached (live or via a message) = 252 *** not reached = 106 Before I tried to reach anyone I went through my notes from previous outreach to some of these zip codes and flagged the email addresses and phone numbers that I already knew to be bad. I did not try to reach those folks. We should be aware that although the list we have is from May 30, it still contains some old bad info. We can save ourselves some frustration by keeping good notes on bad data. On another note, I made an audio recording of the event and have been working on transcribing it. I did a rough draft yesterday, and tomorrow I expect to finish cleaning it up. I'll send it out when it's finished. (I didn't want to promise this ahead of time because I didn't know how well my recorder would work. It got most of what Jill said, but most of the questions were hard or impossible to decipher. Fortunately, she repeated the essence of most of the questions before answering them.) Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ Green Coffee Diet REVEALED Is Green Coffee the BEST way to Burn Fat? Can it Make you Thinner? http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/506504c9a08104c73424st02vuc From vdf at juno.com Thu Sep 27 19:09:40 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:09:40 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein event outreach notes Message-ID: <20120927.190940.30494.1@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> OOPS -- in my outreach notes the permanently unreachable phone numbers should be 66, not 65. Sorry about that. Valerie ____________________________________________________________ Little Green Pill Burns Fat How This Weird Bean Extract Can Make You Thinner http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50650729d9f987292118st01vuc From vdf at juno.com Thu Sep 27 19:16:21 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:16:21 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein event outreach notes Message-ID: <20120927.191621.30494.2@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> P.S.: I also shared the event announcement publicly on Google+. This is *really* my last note! ;-) Good night, Valerie ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Valerie D. Face" Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:09:40 GMT To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Cc: mkmusic03 at aol.com Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein event outreach notes OOPS -- in my outreach notes the permanently unreachable phone numbers should be 66, not 65. Sorry about that. Valerie ____________________________________________________________ OVERSTOCK iPads: $33.93 Get New Apple iPads for $33.93! Limit One Per Customer. Get One Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/506508d513b668d4478fst04vuc From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Thu Sep 27 19:41:06 2012 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:41:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] web site hit count In-Reply-To: <50649E50.2070800@sbcglobal.net> References: <50649E50.2070800@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <50650E42.5010401@truffula.sj.ca.us> The right way to look at your hit count is to analyze the nightly web server logs, not by counting them at page load time the way we do. That way you count the hits that don't actually fetch a new copy, but only check whether their local copy is stale. Server logs from a busy site will mostly show those checks, because large ISPs like AOL and Earthlink run a cache between your server and their customers. I suspect we're not counting those right now. Log analysis also lets you ignore hits by web crawlers from search engines and spammers. If you look at our logs, you'll see most of the traffic is search engine crawlers. There are still at least a dozen search engines besides Bing and Google. There are also crawlers that are just gathering statistics for academic research. On 09/27/2012 11:43 AM, Jim Doyle wrote: > The GPSCC web site's main page has a hit counter > at the bottom of the page. > > I just checked a moment ago and the counter was at 13,330. > The hit counter was started in January 2010 so for the past > two years and nine months the average daily hit count is > about 13.3. > > There is also a hit counter at the bottom of the left hand column > on the contacts page which currently shows 2,520 for an average > of 2.5 accesses per day for the past two years and nine months. > > What conclusion should we draw from this low level of usage? > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From snug.bug at hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 05:29:33 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 05:29:33 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein event outreach notes In-Reply-To: <20120927.185758.30494.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120927.185758.30494.0@webmail11.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Great work, Valerie! Now keep that up until 2016 and maybe we'll get somewhere! :>) Let me know if I can help with the transcript work. I've done a lot of transcripts in my time. Brian > From: vdf at juno.com > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:57:58 +0000 > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > CC: mkmusic03 at aol.com > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein event outreach notes > > Hi folks, > > I know there's supposed to be a discussion tonight of the Jill Stein event, perhaps including what outreach did and didn't work. I won't be able to make it to the meeting, but here's some info on the outreach I did -- grist for the mill. > > > Posted the announcement on the following websites: > Bay Area Events - http://www.bayareaevents.com > Indy Bay - http://www.indybay.org > Patch.com - http://patch.com > Political Events Calendar - http://PoliticalEventsCalendar.org > SanJose.com - http://www.sanjose.com > Yahoo - http://upcoming.yahoo.com > Yelp - http://www.yelp.com > Zvents - http://www.zvents.com > > > Sent the announcement to the following Green Party email lists @cagreens.org: > sosfbay-discuss > sosfbay-news > gpsmc-d > gpca-forum > cal-forum > > > Phone & email outreach to registered Greens in zip codes 95014, 95050, 95051, 95053, 95054, 95117, 95128, 95129 and 95130 (all of Cupertino and Santa Clara, parts of western San Jose; phone calls were to area code 408 only): > Total actually got some kind of message: 252 *** > Total Greens I tried to reach via phone and/or email: 358 > Total Greens in those zip codes overall: 611 > > There are many ways you can slice and dice my notes, and I don't want to overwhelm folks with detail, but here's some. > > Methods I used to reach Greens: > A - Tried email only: 67 (3 bad email addresses) > B - Tried phone only: 285 (103 unreachable) > 65 permanently unreachable (disconnected, wrong number, etc.) > 37 temporarily unreachable (line busy, no answer, etc.) > C - Tried email & phone: 6 > > So, attempted = 358 > assumed reached (live or via a message) = 252 *** > not reached = 106 > > Before I tried to reach anyone I went through my notes from previous outreach to some of these zip codes and flagged the email addresses and phone numbers that I already knew to be bad. I did not try to reach those folks. We should be aware that although the list we have is from May 30, it still contains some old bad info. We can save ourselves some frustration by keeping good notes on bad data. > > > On another note, I made an audio recording of the event and have been working on transcribing it. I did a rough draft yesterday, and tomorrow I expect to finish cleaning it up. I'll send it out when it's finished. (I didn't want to promise this ahead of time because I didn't know how well my recorder would work. It got most of what Jill said, but most of the questions were hard or impossible to decipher. Fortunately, she repeated the essence of most of the questions before answering them.) > > Best wishes, > Valerie > > > ~*~*~*~ > Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America > Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events > First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Green Coffee Diet REVEALED > Is Green Coffee the BEST way to Burn Fat? Can it Make you Thinner? > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/506504c9a08104c73424st02vuc > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Sep 28 06:17:00 2012 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Notes: GPSCC Gen. Meeting Sept 27 2012 Message-ID: <1348838220.39145.YahooMailNeo@web124506.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Notes for Green Party Santa Clara General Meeting, Sept 27 2012 @ SJ Peace & Justice Center John Theilking, Andrea Dorey, Pam Vavra, Jim Doyle, Merriam Kathaleen, Shamako Noble, Sandy Perry, Drew Johnson ? + 7:40 Meeting began. + Facilitator: Jim Doyle; note taker: Drew Johnson; Time Keeper: John Theilking vibes watcher: (unfilled) and agenda preparer for next meeting: (unfilled) - 5m + Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda. - 25m Pam Vavra has just moved here for Santa Clara U Law School from Oregon where she was an active member of the Pacific Greens Shamako Noble is active with the Jill Stein campaign and a rap artist. He performed Treasurer's report and hat passing. Jim Doyle Sandy Perry, minister with CHAM Deliverance Ministry, Low Income Self Help Center and Poor People's Economic Human Rights Campaign + Treasurer's Report (Jim Doyle) 10m Current treasury: $1699.25 Ordering more Green Pages, Tote Bags, Jill Stein TShirts (need more L, XL, 2X) + Ratify John Thielking as a County Councilor Affirmed + Jill Stein after event report (Merriam Kathaleen) Great coalitional effort, Merriam put together event and served as mistress of ceremony, most successful, Shamako did rap performance, Valerie did publicity and calling,??lynn huidekoper and Sandy Perry had idea originally. Result: Great success - most successful Green Party even in many years. Significant media attended, Mercury article. At least $1325 raised for Jill Stein Ellie from Saratoga High volunteered, up to 140 people attending. There are approximately 4100 Greens in county questions about how Merc photo didn't show crowd, but Lib candidate did + Foreclosure Summit--Spencer et al (Merriam, John, Drew) 5m 37 people (or more) showed publicity could be better David Merrit, plaintiff vs ban CJ Holmes foreclosure attorney Spencer Graves organizing energy for ongoing campaign (foreclosure town hall + single payer) + Holistic Arts Fair (Merriam) 5m Eric Meese (Green) organizer 22, 23 outreach event + Report on 9to5 Regional conference Jim Doyle and Merriam (10m) Union Hall, Jim was impressed with the approach. Employment discrimination against women, labor rights lawyer, low income assistance rollbacks and barriers, wage theft. Small group discussion, leverage point, action oriented. Truancy fines used for funding schools - slogan. Allies.Research topics and follow up meeting. potential speaker identified - Jim will approach Latina domestic workers Worker Bill of Rights Sally Lieber + Putting our proposition recommendations on our website? 30--yes 31--no 32--no 33--no 34--yes 35--no position 36--yes 37--yes 38--no 39--yes 40--yes We will add to website. Merriam will send Spencer an email about it. + Peace Fair. Meeting is October 4, 5:30-6:30 at the Peace and Justice Center. John will represent the GPSCC + New literature: (Jim) 5m we have new literature about health care in Spanish and Vietnamese. We will also be getting new Green Pages.? Andrea will take some literature to contacts Council will discuss organizing material better Andrea provided trifold on study re: electric v petroleum vehicles + Jill Stein gear (Jim) 6 tshirts left. Reorder 12 (in L, XL, 2XL) 50 buttons + Discussion of having Cheri Honkala hip hop rally on Oct 17th (Shamako, Merriam) Low Income Self Help Center, Silicon Valley Debug and Hip Hop for Justice ? Meeting called: Jim Doyle's Tues Oct 2nd 7:30pm 1668 Nora Way San Jose, near camden and 85 (bus #65) Jill Stein House parties (Jim) : Show Bill Moyers w/ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala Drew? Adjourned 9:45 ? ? ? ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ? ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ ? ? First TV ad:? http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 28 11:09:26 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:09:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Consumerism and Climate Change In-Reply-To: <5065E799.6030708@earthlink.net> References: <5065E799.6030708@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5065E7D6.2010306@earthlink.net> "Why 'Green' Consumer Choices Can?t Win Climate Justice" "Middle-class people are often socialized to believe they are responsible for improving their neighborhoods, their communities, and the world itself. Helpful as that often is, it creates a blind spot when it comes to global warming." by George Lakey http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/why-green-consumer-choices-cant-win-climate-justice Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 28 15:26:58 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:26:58 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: RSVP confirmation for Digital Town Hall: Climate change Q&A with Dr. Jill Stein In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50662432.5090405@earthlink.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [gpsmc-d] Fwd: RSVP confirmation for Digital Town Hall: Climate change Q&A with Dr. Jill Stein Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:11:55 -0700 From: Sanda Everette To: GPSMC-D I would like to see a group of us get together to watch this Sunday afternoon. Who else is interested? Will Gerry or someone else from the Santa Clara group forward this to your list. I am willing to host it here at San Mateo Ecovillage, unless someone else wants to do it in a larger space. I could also ask the folks at the Reach and Teach Bookstore. *Who: * * Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein * Colin Beavan , aka No Impact Man, Green Party Candidate for Congress, will moderate the event * Bill McKibben , author and climate change expert, will offer scientific, non-partisan background on the issue ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Jill Stein for President* > Date: Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:59 PM Subject: RSVP confirmation for Digital Town Hall: Climate change Q&A with Dr. Jill Stein To: Sanda Everette > __ Sanda -- WHAT: Digital Town Hall: Climate change Q&A with Dr. Jill Stein WHEN: September 30, 2012 at 4pm PST WHERE: http://www.livestream.com/greenpartyus And you can invite others to join you at the event with this link: http://www.jillstein.org/digital_town_hall_climate_change_q_a_with_dr_jill_stein?recruiter_id=534 Jill Stein for President http://www.jillstein.org/ -=-=- This email was sent to sanda.greensolutions at gmail.com . To stop receiving updates on this page, unfollow here . Jill Stein for President ? United States Created with NationBuilder , the essential toolkit for leaders. -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ gpsmc-d mailing list gpsmc-d at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpsmc-d http://cagreens.org/sanmateo/ From vdf at juno.com Fri Sep 28 18:30:38 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:30:38 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tues, Oct 2 meeting to plan Cheri Honkala Hip Hop Rally for Weds, Oct 17 Message-ID: <20120928.183038.2609.0@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I was thrilled to read, in the notes from yesterday's GPSCC meeting, that there will be a meeting at Jim's place this Tuesday, October 2nd on planning a Cheri Honkala Hip Hop Rally for Wednesday, October 17th! I have a prior commitment for Tuesday the 2nd, so I can't make it to that meeting, but please keep me in the loop because I'd love to help with the event. I'm keeping the evening of Wednesday the 17th free. I can certainly do more online posting of event announcements, calls and emails to registered Greens, and perhaps other things. I think it's fantastic that we're doing so much for our great Green candidates this year! Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50664f75627614f754728st02vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Sep 28 19:31:38 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:31:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber Message-ID: <50665D8A.4030603@earthlink.net> Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. I don't know. Have we? If not, have we taken a position on her? I think pretty well of her. Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Sep 28 20:49:48 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:49:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <50665D8A.4030603@earthlink.net> References: <50665D8A.4030603@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50666FDC.1080606@prodsyse.com> I do not believe the Green Party has officially endorsed her, but I think it would be quite appropriate if we did. Spencer On 9/28/2012 7:31 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. > I don't know. Have we? If not, have we taken a position > on her? > > I think pretty well of her. > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Sep 28 23:12:38 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <50665D8A.4030603@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1348899158.95843.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Lynn Huidekoper is supporting her and working for her. She is looking for people to work for her.I think it would be great if we endorsed her. Caroline --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Gerry Gras wrote: From: Gerry Gras Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber To: "GPSCC" Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:31 PM Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. I don't know.? Have we?? If not, have we taken a position on her? I think pretty well of her. Gerry _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Sep 29 03:09:50 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:09:50 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <1348899158.95843.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348899158.95843.YahooMailClassic@web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5066C8EE.3010400@prodsyse.com> Can we do that on a vote of the County Council? Also, would someone like Gerry or Caroline draft a brief statement that you'd like on our web site -- preferably at least one link that's positive and one that's negative with a very few words explaining why we support the positive and either ignore the negative or reinterpret it positively? Then if the resolution gets a consensus of the County Council (Jim, Merriam, Drew, John and me), I'll have instructions I can easily understand regarding what I should do to put that info on the web site. Thanks, Spencer On 9/28/2012 11:12 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Lynn Huidekoper is supporting her and working for her. She is looking > for people to work for her.I think it would be great if we endorsed her. > Caroline > > --- On *Fri, 9/28/12, Gerry Gras //* wrote: > > > From: Gerry Gras > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber > To: "GPSCC" > Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:31 PM > > > Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. > I don't know. Have we? If not, have we taken a position > on her? > > I think pretty well of her. > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Sat Sep 29 07:30:53 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:30:53 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Uploaded transcript of Jill Stein at UU Church of Palo Alto, Tues 9/25 Message-ID: <20120929.073053.3151.1@webmail10.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I tried sending the PDF of my transcript of Jill Stein's appearance to this list, but it was held because it was too big. Assuming that it will be formally rejected, I've uploaded a copy to Google Docs that can be read here: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B2zmINkEPraSLVRrSGpqZHVzLWM If you'd like me to send you the PDF directly, let me know. FYI, I missed recording a few of Jill's opening "thank yous" because I was making my way from a table outside into the hall when she got started, but the real speech is all there, as best as I could make it out. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ____________________________________________________________ Gaviscon® Official Site Gaviscon® Relieves Heartburn Fast! See Products, Heartburn Info & More http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/506706473a4856465975st01vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 29 08:45:30 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:45:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] How "Green" is email? Message-ID: <5067179A.5070601@earthlink.net> Because we are in Silicon Valley, I think this is appropriate for us: "5 Reasons Your Email Is Not As Green As You Thought" http://www.care2.com/causes/5-reasons-your-email-not-so-green.html Gerry From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Sep 29 09:15:23 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 09:15:23 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] our web site - which web site? Message-ID: <50671E9B.3030900@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: I just noticed that the Santa Clara Greens actually have two web pages: * The old one that I've been maintaining (www.cagreens.org/santaclara ). * The new one that is still advertising Carol Bruoillet's "Kick-off Party on Saturday April 28" (www.cagreens.org/county-parties/santa_clara ). The second does "Connect with" the first. We should probably discuss what should be done to integrate these two. However, I don't want to take the lead in implementing that. If others can make recommendations on what should be done with this, I can help with the implementation. If I'm not mistaken, the second is in Drupal; the first is traditional HTML (hypertext markup language). I don't know Drupal, but I'm willing to spend a little time to try to learn -- then more to try to teach others. I'd be pleased if we could get others to help with the technical side of this in addition to the content. Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Sep 29 10:21:38 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:21:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Committee Against Political Repression In-Reply-To: <50668A82.2020002@prodsyse.com> References: <50668A82.2020002@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <50672E22.6090709@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: You may know that people are being harassed and imprisoned for participating in legal, peaceful assembly (e.g., in conjunction with the 2008 Republican National Convention) and supporting terrorism simply because they talked with people or belonged to organizations that US government claimed were "terrorists" -- without a need to present any evidence of that. (No more the land of the brave and the home of the free, but the land of the fearful and cowardly; http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/55119685/Liberty%20and%20Justice%20for%20All) The South Bay Committee Against Politic Repression (CAPR) is trying to organize actions against this. Below please find notes from the CAPR meeting last Tuesday meeting. These include details that could be used to organize other protests, e.g., to release Matthew Kyle Duran, who is currently being held in indefinite detention for refusing to testify before a Civil Grand Jury. If you call or write emails to elected officials, please post the details of what you did back to the rest of us to make it easier for us to do likewise. Thanks, Spencer -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Send to Greens and Occupy Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:43:30 -0700 From: Betsy Wolf-Graves To: spencer graves Hello Greens and Occupy: The Committee Against Political Repression met Tuesday, September 25. This group was formed after the attack on human rights at the Republican National Convention held in Minneapolis-St. Paul in 2008. In 2010 the federal attorney in Chicago issued indictments against many of the international solidarity activists and antiwar activist who had organized demonstrations and the 2008 RNC.. Among them was Hatem Abudayyeh one of the organizers of the protests. The feds have ordered the activists to report to a federal grand jury set up for just that purpose. To date no one has accepted the order. There is something strangely dangerous to be called before a closed grand jury not knowing what evidence will be directed at you. The activists well know that 92% of all cases that appear before a grand jury end up with an indictment. At the South Bay CAPR meeting on Tuesday, we spoke by phone with Hatem. He presents as very calm and thoughtful, even in light of all that is going against him. His home was ransacked by the feds. He is the last one whose effects have not been returned to him. It is amazing that he maintains his job while he is being faced with such stressors. A number of people from the Arab American community participated in the demonstrations at the RNC. Monday, October 1, there will be coordinated demonstrations , led by the Arab American community in Milwaukee, in Florida, and Washington DC in front of the FBI buildings. They will present a letter addressed to Attorney General Holder and Acting U S Attorney Gary Shapiro. The letter will ask for exoneration and to publicly withdraw any charges. CAPR is now attempting to bring Hatem to the South Bay so that more people can hear him and learn of the ordeal after peacefully demonstrating in St. Paul during the RNC, 2008. He will update us on the status of Midwest 23 and the week of action September 20-26 commemorating the two year anniversary of the FBI raids and Federal Grand Jury subpoenas. Among the groups condemning the actions of the government are CAIR, the Green Party and numerous unions. I have added some larger coverage below if you would like to know more about this attack on our rights and some actions you can take. Betsy The grand jury system was imported from England by American colonists, who often used it to defend their rights and express grievances against the king???s policies. But the unique subpoena power of the modern grand jury system, in use virtually nowhere else, has long since morphed into something different, according to attorney Deutsch (lead attorney for Hatem and group). Since the Nixon era, he says, the Justice Department has used grand juries against political activists, ??forcing them to testify [through compulsory immunity, which prosecutors can use in further investigations but not officially in court], even what I call interning?? them without charges.?? If a subpoenaed person refuses to testify before the grand jury after being offered immunity by the government, she can be jailed for contempt ??without ever having been convicted of a crime. The government considers this ??coercion?? a means of compelling testimony rather than punishment; famous victims include former Weather Underground member Bernadine Dohrn and former New York Times reporter Judith Miller. Jail is an immediate possibility for some of the 14 activists, three of whom were re-subpoenaed in November. (The Justice Department let all of their initial appearance dates pass after they refused to testify.) But while Dohrn and Miller were released after less than 12 months, the uncooperative activists could face much more time because the current grand jury is investigating support for terrorism. (??Terrorism enhancement??? sentencing guidelines, passed after the Oklahoma City bombing, allow judges to dramatically increase sentences if an offense ???involved, or was intended to promote, a federal crime of terrorism.??) ??They???re not just looking at a few months in jail if they do no??t testify, they a??re looking at years, says Deutsch example of grand jury abuse. In 2007, a federal judge sentenced Ashqar, a Palestinian and former professor of business administration at Howard University, to more than 11 years in prison for refusing to testify before a grand jury ??after he was acquitted of all terrorism-related charges. He remains imprisoned. ANOTHER ACTION ITEM: In Seattle Matthew Kyle Duran remains in jail because he refused to testify against members of his community. Grand juries can take away your rights to be silent. You can look up Matt Duran on the WEB. It would be great if people would make a plan to write Matt regularly so he knows he is not alone. His address: Matthew Kyle Duran (Matt) 42565-086 FDC Sea Tac P O Box 13900 Seattle, WA 98198 Solidarity drives pushback While they would rather go to jail than be part of what they call a ??government witch hunt,?? the 14 subpoenaed activists are trying to avoid both outcomes by pressuring members of Congress and encouraging street protests around the country. In October, the Committee to Stop FBI Repression organized protests outside of the FBI offices in Chicago and Minneapolis, and during the week of November 29, it spearheaded a series of protests in cities across the country. The committee also sent a delegation to Washington D.C. in November that met four members of Congress, including Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) and Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), and Andrea Martin, the executive director of the Progressive Caucus. No politician had committed to sending a ??Dear Colleague?? letter to fellow representatives, but committee members are hoping that protests outside home district offices, a national petition letter to President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, and additional visits to the Capitol will cause influential people to condemn the grand jury investigation. While the Justice Department's next step is unclear ??it could offer immunity to those subpoenaed, push for indictments or impanel a new grand jury after the current one expires in February ??the reaction to its investigation is not. More than 140 organizations from around the country, including the Green Party, the Council on American-Islamic Relations and dozens of labor unions and councils, have condemned the government'?s actions. Jess Sundin, the antiwar activist who traveled to Colombia 10 years ago, sees those actions as an affront to her freedoms ??and conscience.??The idea that it could be against the law for Americans to meet with people who our government does no??t support?I never imagined that that was illegal,??? Sundin said at a November 13 meeting of Seattle United Against FBI Repression: ??I always believed that we had a right and responsibility to speak our opinions and to dissent when our government is making mistakes.? UPDATE: On December 3 and 8, after In These Times?? January 2011 issue went to press, five additional Chicago-area Palestinian solidarity activists were subpoenaed by the Grand Jury, bringing the total number of individuals called to testify to 19. http://inthesetimes.com/article/continued/6745/terrorist_by_association/ http://rnc08report.org/cgi-bin/engine/search.cgi?action=search&page=1&perpage=5000&templat.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sat Sep 29 11:28:24 2012 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:28:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] War Crimes Message-ID: A Democratic fund raiser phoned yesterday. I said, "Whoopee! The War Crimes Party!" He said "What what war crimes?" I said "Bombing countries with which we are not at war and which pose no military threat to us and killing noncombatants are war crimes under the Nuremberg Principles." He said, "Well, all presidents do that." That is the "New Normal" that Obama has created. I am not particularly angry at Obama. I never had any illusions that he would be anything other than the murdering, lying, criminal scumbag that he is. I am angry at his hypocritical supporters who rationalize away his crimes and pretend they don't exist. All these years in the 9/11 Truth movement I have argued that we must avoid indulging in self-defeating self-expression and seek to maximize political effectiveness in the mainstream. I am now so disgusted that I've lost interest in the mainstream and effectiveness. I just want to express my rage at those who go along with the program of government by men not laws, and of the end of simple human decency--a program that may have started in a haze of Mad Cowboy lunacy but which Obama is in cold blood cementing into national culture. The man should be in the jailhouse, not in the White House. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Sep 29 12:07:22 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:07:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] War Crimes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <506746EA.7020906@prodsyse.com> Hello, Brian, et al.: Thanks, Brian, for this. If enough of the humans calling hear things like this, they might begin to work for positive change. I will outline here my plan for dealing with this, in the hopes that you or others would like to volunteer to help: 1. BACKGROUND: 1.1. The earliest, most obvious event in US history similar to what you describe was when President Washington sent US tax money to plantation owners in Haiti to help them suppress a slave rebellion during the French revolution. I do not criticize Washington: There were slaves in all 13 original states at that time, and the union might not have survived if he had done anything different. More generally, the primary constituency for foreign policy in any nation are people who have routine business interests elsewhere. These people want, and have routinely received, US support for state terror from virtually every administration in US history. The only restraint on that is the need to invent an acceptable myth to support that. From 1946 to 1991, this policy was packaged under the rubric of the Cold War. Since 2001, it has been packaged as a "War on Terror". However, it is essentially the same policy followed by President Washington in sending US tax money to plantation owners in Haiti in the 1790s. It's time we grow up. 1.2. The consolidation in ownership of the media in the 1980s and 1990s led to massive reductions in investigative journalism. This has contributed to runaway inflation in in the cost of getting elected to high public office, funded by runaway inflation in crony capitalism / welfare for the wealthy. A partial analysis of this appears under "The Crisis in US Politics & Economics" at occupy.pbworks.com (http://occupy.pbworks.com/w/page/47721637/FrontPage). 2. EFFECTIVE DEFENSE AND U S FOREIGN POLICY 2.1. I believe the weight of the available evidence indicates that the US has no substantive enemies on the international stage other than ones we have earned by supporting state terror in opposition to liberty and justice for all. 2.2. I founded "effectivedefense.org" to try to organize in one place the best and most conservative evidence supporting this claim. One idea is to create a table on the web of all the members of the United Nations with a brief summary of what is well documented about previous US intervention in their internal affairs and their potential impacts for good or bad with links to what experts across the political spectrum have to say about it. I believe we can show that the US has no substantive enemies on the international stage, we can get more traction with talking about the fraudulent nature of the war on terror. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer On 9/29/2012 11:28 AM, Brian Good wrote: > > > A Democratic fund raiser phoned yesterday. I said, "Whoopee! The War > Crimes > Party!" > > He said "What what war crimes?" > > I said "Bombing countries with which we are not at war and which pose > no military > threat to us and killing noncombatants are war crimes under the Nuremberg > Principles." > > He said, "Well, all presidents do that." > > That is the "New Normal" that Obama has created. I am not > particularly angry at > Obama. I never had any illusions that he would be anything other than > the > murdering, lying, criminal scumbag that he is. I am angry at his > hypocritical > supporters who rationalize away his crimes and pretend they don't exist. > > All these years in the 9/11 Truth movement I have argued that we must > avoid > indulging in self-defeating self-expression and seek to maximize > political effectiveness > in the mainstream. I am now so disgusted that I've lost interest in > the mainstream > and effectiveness. I just want to express my rage at those who go > along with the > program of government by men not laws, and of the end of simple human > decency--a program that may have started in a haze of Mad Cowboy > lunacy but > which Obama is in cold blood cementing into national culture. > > The man should be in the jailhouse, not in the White House. > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 29 16:24:38 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:24:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] our web site - which web site? In-Reply-To: <50671E9B.3030900@prodsyse.com> References: <50671E9B.3030900@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <50678336.8030708@earthlink.net> Spencer Graves wrote: > Hello, All: > > > I just noticed that the Santa Clara Greens actually have two web > pages: > > > * The old one that I've been maintaining > (www.cagreens.org/santaclara ). This is the one I have known about for years. > > > * The new one that is still advertising Carol Bruoillet's > "Kick-off Party on Saturday April 28" > (www.cagreens.org/county-parties/santa_clara > ). I did not know of this website until this email. It appears to have only one webpage. > > > The second does "Connect with" the first. > > > We should probably discuss what should be done to integrate these > two. However, I don't want to take the lead in implementing that. If > others can make recommendations on what should be done with this, I can > help with the implementation. If I'm not mistaken, the second is in > Drupal; the first is traditional HTML (hypertext markup language). I > don't know Drupal, but I'm willing to spend a little time to try to > learn -- then more to try to teach others. I'd be pleased if we could > get others to help with the technical side of this in addition to the > content. Does anyone know the history? I noticed that on this page: http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties?tid=All&page=4 it has links to both websites. Gerry > > > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web:www.structuremonitoring.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Sat Sep 29 19:21:09 2012 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <5066C8EE.3010400@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1348971669.31910.YahooMailClassic@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Who is Sally Lieber and what is she running for? ? John Thielking --- On Sat, 9/29/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber To: "Caroline Yacoub" Cc: "GPSCC" Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 3:09 AM ????? Can we do that on a vote of the County Council?? ????? Also, would someone like Gerry or Caroline draft a brief statement that you'd like on our web site -- preferably at least one link that's positive and one that's negative with a very few words explaining why we support the positive and either ignore the negative or reinterpret it positively?? Then if the resolution gets a consensus of the County Council (Jim, Merriam, Drew, John and me), I'll have instructions I can easily understand regarding what I should do to put that info on the web site.? ????? Thanks, ????? Spencer On 9/28/2012 11:12 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: Lynn Huidekoper is supporting her and working for her. She is looking for people to work for her.I think it would be great if we endorsed her. Caroline --- On Fri, 9/28/12, Gerry Gras wrote: From: Gerry Gras Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber To: "GPSCC" Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:31 PM Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. I don't know.? Have we?? If not, have we taken a position on her? I think pretty well of her. Gerry _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Sep 29 22:42:20 2012 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:42:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <1348971669.31910.YahooMailClassic@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1348971669.31910.YahooMailClassic@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5067DBBC.3030803@earthlink.net> Sally Lieber is running for the California Senate. She has been in the California Assembly. She is a Democrat, but seems to think more like a Green. You can find a lot by searching for her on the internet. Here is her campaign website: http://www.sallylieber.org/ Gerry John Thielking wrote: > Who is Sally Lieber and what is she running for? > John Thielking > > --- On *Sat, 9/29/12, Spencer Graves //* wrote: > > > From: Spencer Graves > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber > To: "Caroline Yacoub" > Cc: "GPSCC" > Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 3:09 AM > > Can we do that on a vote of the County Council? > > > Also, would someone like Gerry or Caroline draft a brief > statement that you'd like on our web site -- preferably at least one > link that's positive and one that's negative with a very few words > explaining why we support the positive and either ignore the > negative or reinterpret it positively? Then if the resolution gets > a consensus of the County Council (Jim, Merriam, Drew, John and me), > I'll have instructions I can easily understand regarding what I > should do to put that info on the web site. > > > Thanks, > Spencer > > > On 9/28/2012 11:12 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> Lynn Huidekoper is supporting her and working for her. She is >> looking for people to work for her.I think it would be great if we >> endorsed her. >> Caroline >> >> --- On *Fri, 9/28/12, Gerry Gras / >> /* >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Gerry Gras >> >> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber >> To: "GPSCC" >> >> Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:31 PM >> >> >> Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. >> I don't know. Have we? If not, have we taken a position >> on her? >> >> I think pretty well of her. >> >> Gerry >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web:www.structuremonitoring.com > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From vdf at juno.com Sun Sep 30 01:15:06 2012 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:15:06 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber Message-ID: <20120930.011506.18355.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> Hi folks, I really like Sally Lieber and was saddened to learn that I had gotten redistricted out of her (potential) State Senate district. She's very progressive and there's a lot of information about her record on her website. Lieber has enthusiastically endorsed a Green candidate in the past -- Stephanie Schaaf for Mountain View City Council in 2004. * Lieber's enthusiasm for Schaaf (who was a great candidate) is mentioned in the article here: http://www.mv-voice.com/morgue/2004/2004_07_16.council.shtml * Lieber's endorsement is listed here: http://www.smartvoter.org/2004/11/02/ca/scl/vote/schaaf_s/endorse.html I'm in favor of endorsing Sally Lieber for State Senate. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:42:20 -0700 From: Gerry Gras To: John Thielking Cc: GPSCC Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber Sally Lieber is running for the California Senate. She has been in the California Assembly. She is a Democrat, but seems to think more like a Green. You can find a lot by searching for her on the internet. Here is her campaign website: http://www.sallylieber.org/ Gerry John Thielking wrote: > Who is Sally Lieber and what is she running for? > John Thielking > > --- On *Sat, 9/29/12, Spencer Graves //* wrote: > > > From: Spencer Graves > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber > To: "Caroline Yacoub" > Cc: "GPSCC" > Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 3:09 AM > > Can we do that on a vote of the County Council? > > > Also, would someone like Gerry or Caroline draft a brief > statement that you'd like on our web site -- preferably at least one > link that's positive and one that's negative with a very few words > explaining why we support the positive and either ignore the > negative or reinterpret it positively? Then if the resolution gets > a consensus of the County Council (Jim, Merriam, Drew, John and me), > I'll have instructions I can easily understand regarding what I > should do to put that info on the web site. > > > Thanks, > Spencer > > > On 9/28/2012 11:12 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> Lynn Huidekoper is supporting her and working for her. She is >> looking for people to work for her.I think it would be great if we >> endorsed her. >> Caroline >> >> --- On *Fri, 9/28/12, Gerry Gras / >> /* >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Gerry Gras >> >> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber >> To: "GPSCC" >> >> Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:31 PM >> >> >> Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. >> I don't know. Have we? If not, have we taken a position >> on her? >> >> I think pretty well of her. >> >> Gerry >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web:www.structuremonitoring.com > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ____________________________________________________________ Gaviscon® Official Site Gaviscon® Relieves Heartburn Fast! See Products, Heartburn Info & More http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/506800d37bfabd25affst03vuc From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Sep 30 08:47:52 2012 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:47:52 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] our web site - which web site? In-Reply-To: <50678336.8030708@earthlink.net> References: <50671E9B.3030900@prodsyse.com> <50678336.8030708@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <506869A8.5090709@truffula.sj.ca.us> The static site is a remnant of the decentralized global web of Green Party web sites begun by activists like me in the mid '90s.. That collection became impossible to maintain as the priesthood of "new media professionals" took over and discouraged the lower-skilled volunteers. The new site is a remnant of new media professional Marnie Glickman's project to centralize Green Party web sites under her control. She was unable to salvage the existing content in any organized or mechanical way, so most of the content the volunteers had created was discarded. On 09/29/2012 04:24 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > > Spencer Graves wrote: >> Hello, All: >> >> >> I just noticed that the Santa Clara Greens actually have two web >> pages: >> >> >> * The old one that I've been maintaining >> (www.cagreens.org/santaclara ). > > This is the one I have known about for years. > >> >> >> * The new one that is still advertising Carol Bruoillet's >> "Kick-off Party on Saturday April 28" >> (www.cagreens.org/county-parties/santa_clara >> ). > > I did not know of this website until this email. > It appears to have only one webpage. > >> >> >> The second does "Connect with" the first. >> >> >> We should probably discuss what should be done to integrate these >> two. However, I don't want to take the lead in implementing that. If >> others can make recommendations on what should be done with this, I can >> help with the implementation. If I'm not mistaken, the second is in >> Drupal; the first is traditional HTML (hypertext markup language). I >> don't know Drupal, but I'm willing to spend a little time to try to >> learn -- then more to try to teach others. I'd be pleased if we could >> get others to help with the technical side of this in addition to the >> content. > > Does anyone know the history? > > I noticed that on this page: > http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties?tid=All&page=4 > > it has links to both websites. > > Gerry > >> >> >> Best Wishes, >> Spencer >> >> >> -- >> Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >> President and Chief Technology Officer >> Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >> 751 Emerson Ct. >> San Jos?, CA 95126 >> ph: 408-655-4567 >> web:www.structuremonitoring.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From cls at truffula.sj.ca.us Sun Sep 30 08:52:48 2012 From: cls at truffula.sj.ca.us (Cameron L. Spitzer) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:52:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <5067DBBC.3030803@earthlink.net> References: <1348971669.31910.YahooMailClassic@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5067DBBC.3030803@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <50686AD0.80408@truffula.sj.ca.us> Is the Green Party of Santa Clara County now considering endorsing competing parties' candidates in partisan races? That would be a good thing to do once we decide we are not a political party any more. I'd like to see that decision made formally, rather than just sliding into it backwards. Personally, I gave 2012 up for lost, but I was hoping there would be something left for 2016. -Cameron On 09/29/2012 10:42 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > Sally Lieber is running for the California Senate. > She has been in the California Assembly. She is > a Democrat, but seems to think more like a Green. > You can find a lot by searching for her on the > internet. Here is her campaign website: > > http://www.sallylieber.org/ > > Gerry > > > John Thielking wrote: >> Who is Sally Lieber and what is she running for? >> John Thielking >> >> - From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Sep 30 09:32:27 2012 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:32:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <50686AD0.80408@truffula.sj.ca.us> References: <1348971669.31910.YahooMailClassic@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5067DBBC.3030803@earthlink.net> <50686AD0.80408@truffula.sj.ca.us> Message-ID: <5068741B.7000200@prodsyse.com> Hi, Cameron, et al.: On 9/30/2012 8:52 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > > > Is the Green Party of Santa Clara County now considering endorsing > competing parties' candidates in partisan races? That would be a good > thing to do once we decide we are not a political party any more. I'd > like to see that decision made formally, rather than just sliding into > it backwards. Personally, I gave 2012 up for lost, but I was hoping > there would be something left for 2016. I believe there is a middle ground, which we should strive to reach: 1. Especially with the Top Two system, I think we should start to rank all the candidates (and propositions) in any race, and make public recommendations. If we have two Green candidates running for the same office, the Green Party should decide which to support, thereby increasing the chances that that person would come in at least second in the primary and make it to the general election. If no Green is on the ballot, we should rank the candidates (and propositions) in the race and not be shy about recruiting people to campaign for, e.g., Rob Means, a former Green running as a Democrat for the Mayor of Milpitas: He asked for our endorsement and received it. 2. We should further reach out to the Peace & Freedom Party and try to work with them to produce a combined slate so any Green party candidate would never go head to head with a Peace & Freedom candidate. If the two parties become big enough that they could compete and still have a decent chance of at least one making it to the general election, then we should suspend that collaboration. If we do this, I think we can enhance the chances for both the Greens and the Peace & Freedom party. I also think we should explicitly and vociferously embrace the Pirate party platform to the extent that it is consistent with Green values, because doing so will, I believe, attract many people concerned about freedom of the Internet, etc. "Politics is the art of the Possible." (Otto von Bismark, 1867; http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck) Spencer > > -Cameron > > > > On 09/29/2012 10:42 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: >> >> Sally Lieber is running for the California Senate. >> She has been in the California Assembly. She is >> a Democrat, but seems to think more like a Green. >> You can find a lot by searching for her on the >> internet. Here is her campaign website: >> >> http://www.sallylieber.org/ >> >> Gerry >> >> >> John Thielking wrote: >>> Who is Sally Lieber and what is she running for? >>> John Thielking >>> >>> - > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From carolineyacoub at att.net Sun Sep 30 10:52:07 2012 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 10:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <5068741B.7000200@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1349027527.61104.YahooMailClassic@web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have been curious about something: When I ran for County Council, there were 8 or 9 candidates on the ballot. How does Prop. 14 affect that? Caroline --- On Sun, 9/30/12, Spencer Graves wrote: From: Spencer Graves Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber To: "Cameron L. Spitzer" Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Sunday, September 30, 2012, 9:32 AM Hi, Cameron, et al.: On 9/30/2012 8:52 AM, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote: > > > Is the Green Party of Santa Clara County now considering endorsing competing parties' candidates in partisan races?? That would be a good thing to do once we decide we are not a political party any more.? I'd like to see that decision made formally, rather than just sliding into it backwards.? Personally, I gave 2012 up for lost, but I was hoping there would be something left for 2016. ? ? ? I believe there is a middle ground, which we should strive to reach: ? ? ? ? ? ? 1.? Especially with the Top Two system, I think we should start to rank all the candidates (and propositions) in any race, and make public recommendations.? If we have two Green candidates running for the same office, the Green Party should decide which to support, thereby increasing the chances that that person would come in at least second in the primary and make it to the general election.? If no Green is on the ballot, we should rank the candidates (and propositions) in the race and not be shy about recruiting people to campaign for, e.g., Rob Means, a former Green running as a Democrat for the Mayor of Milpitas:? He asked for our endorsement and received it. ? ? ? ? ? ? 2.? We should further reach out to the Peace & Freedom Party and try to work with them to produce a combined slate so any Green party candidate would never go head to head with a Peace & Freedom candidate.? If the two parties become big enough that they could compete and still have a decent chance of at least one making it to the general election, then we should suspend that collaboration. ? ? ? If we do this, I think we can enhance the chances for both the Greens and the Peace & Freedom party.? I also think we should explicitly and vociferously embrace the Pirate party platform to the extent that it is consistent with Green values, because doing so will, I believe, attract many people concerned about freedom of the Internet, etc. ? ? ? "Politics is the art of the Possible." (Otto von Bismark, 1867; http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck) ? ? ? Spencer > > -Cameron > > > > On 09/29/2012 10:42 PM, Gerry Gras wrote: >> >> Sally Lieber is running for the California Senate. >> She has been in the California Assembly.? She is >> a Democrat, but seems to think more like a Green. >> You can find a lot by searching for her on the >> internet.? Here is her campaign website: >> >>? ???http://www.sallylieber.org/ >> >> Gerry >> >> >> John Thielking wrote: >>> Who is Sally Lieber and what is she running for? >>> John Thielking >>> >>> - > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 30 11:28:08 2012 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:28:08 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] top two primary vis a vis county council Message-ID: <50688F38.80908@sbcglobal.net> Caroline had asked I have been curious about something: When I ran for County Council, there were 8 or 9 candidates on the ballot. How does Prop. 14 affect that? Caroline a little google seearch yielded Specifically, Proposition 14 provides for a "voter-nominated primary election" for each state elective office and congressional office in California. Voters can vote in the primary election for any candidate for a congressional or state elective office without regard to the political party affiliations of either the candidate or the voter. Candidates can choose whether or not to have their political party affiliation displayed on the ballot. So Prop 14 does not apply to county council elections nor to presidential elections. Congressional office applies to both house and senate. From tnharter at aceweb.com Sun Sep 30 12:39:56 2012 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 12:39:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Jill Stein in Palo Alto Message-ID: <5068A00C.80502@aceweb.com> I took a few pictures of Jill Stein in Palo Alto. You can see those at: http://tian.greens.org/GreenParty/JillStein/PaloAlto/index.html I just added a transcript by Valerie Face to the event. You can find that at: http://tian.greens.org/GreenParty/JillStein/PaloAlto/Transcript.shtml -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest addition: Pictures and words from Jill Stein's Palo Alto event. The Green pin I got from a Kiwi in Baltimore's on a Michigan quarter. From eric at philosopherswheel.com Sun Sep 30 18:56:20 2012 From: eric at philosopherswheel.com (Eric A. Meece) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:56:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber In-Reply-To: <20120930.011506.18355.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> References: <20120930.011506.18355.0@webmail12.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <0CF29C8F8CB5481485AD350607389F70@eameecePC> Probably a good idea; Greens can be an important voting bloc. I liked Stephanie Schaaf. --Eric the Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie D. Face" To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber Hi folks, I really like Sally Lieber and was saddened to learn that I had gotten redistricted out of her (potential) State Senate district. She's very progressive and there's a lot of information about her record on her website. Lieber has enthusiastically endorsed a Green candidate in the past -- Stephanie Schaaf for Mountain View City Council in 2004. * Lieber's enthusiasm for Schaaf (who was a great candidate) is mentioned in the article here: http://www.mv-voice.com/morgue/2004/2004_07_16.council.shtml * Lieber's endorsement is listed here: http://www.smartvoter.org/2004/11/02/ca/scl/vote/schaaf_s/endorse.html I'm in favor of endorsing Sally Lieber for State Senate. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ Jill Stein for President -- A Green New Deal for America Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ Upcoming events: http://www.jillstein.org/events First TV ad: http://youtu.be/vaObRxkX8K4 ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 22:42:20 -0700 From: Gerry Gras To: John Thielking Cc: GPSCC Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber Sally Lieber is running for the California Senate. She has been in the California Assembly. She is a Democrat, but seems to think more like a Green. You can find a lot by searching for her on the internet. Here is her campaign website: http://www.sallylieber.org/ Gerry John Thielking wrote: > Who is Sally Lieber and what is she running for? > John Thielking > > --- On *Sat, 9/29/12, Spencer Graves //* > wrote: > > > From: Spencer Graves > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber > To: "Caroline Yacoub" > Cc: "GPSCC" > Date: Saturday, September 29, 2012, 3:09 AM > > Can we do that on a vote of the County Council? > > > Also, would someone like Gerry or Caroline draft a brief > statement that you'd like on our web site -- preferably at least one > link that's positive and one that's negative with a very few words > explaining why we support the positive and either ignore the > negative or reinterpret it positively? Then if the resolution gets > a consensus of the County Council (Jim, Merriam, Drew, John and me), > I'll have instructions I can easily understand regarding what I > should do to put that info on the web site. > > > Thanks, > Spencer > > > On 9/28/2012 11:12 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> Lynn Huidekoper is supporting her and working for her. She is >> looking for people to work for her.I think it would be great if we >> endorsed her. >> Caroline >> >> --- On *Fri, 9/28/12, Gerry Gras / >> >> /* >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Gerry Gras >> >> >> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Sally Lieber >> To: "GPSCC" >> >> >> Date: Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:31 PM >> >> >> Sanda has asked me if the GPSCC has endorsed Sally Lieber. >> I don't know. Have we? If not, have we taken a position >> on her? >> >> I think pretty well of her. >> >> Gerry >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> >> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web:www.structuremonitoring.com > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss ____________________________________________________________ Gaviscon® Official Site Gaviscon® Relieves Heartburn Fast! See Products, Heartburn Info & More http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/506800d37bfabd25affst03vuc _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss