From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 1 00:48:27 2013 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 00:48:27 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] event at seven trees community center Message-ID: <51FA12CB.5080909@sbcglobal.net> *Hip Hop for Justice 2 * * Saturday, August 3, 2013 @ 3 PM Seven Trees Community Center * * 3590 Cas Drive * * San Jose Silicon Valley De-Bug and San Jose Zulu Nation PRESENTS: Hip Hop for Justice 2! * * * Hip Hop for Justice 2! is a community event where we connect various different organizations, movements and local services to the communities. This event is meant to connect the people to resources and movements they need. Simultaneously while connecting people to organizations and movements that serve them, this event is intended to be cultural and interactive. So we about to get down yall! *Family Friendly Event* From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 11:27:20 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 Message-ID: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Green Party Councilors and members, For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event.? Sadly again this year there will not be a parade, though next year its likely. I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride.? I believe we should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the weekend.? He wants us there.? He set aside a premium space for us. I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask).? He said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything for $300.? He said if that was still too much we should talk to him about additional possibilities.? One way or the other I propose we work something out with him and participate.? ? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Thu Aug 1 15:24:01 2013 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:24:01 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] gay pride Message-ID: <51FAE001.20604@sbcglobal.net> At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours before negotiating for a reduction in price. I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a great place to be tabling. From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Aug 1 17:53:30 2013 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:53:30 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] gay pride In-Reply-To: <51FAE001.20604@sbcglobal.net> References: <51FAE001.20604@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <51FB030A.3050607@structuremonitoring.com> On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined > up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours > before negotiating for a reduction in price. > > I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a > great place to be tabling. How much money would we likely collect? I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of pocket expenses. Best Wishes, Spencer > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 18:36:50 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 18:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 In-Reply-To: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I don't think we should decide based on anticipated contributions and I would like to discourage that line of reasoning.? Our whole purpose is to get the Green word out, regardless.? With the victory over Prop 8 and the fact that as a party we've ALWAYS been LGBTQ positive, we are a good match for this event, but at the same time the LGBTQ community is deeply in the Dem corner (with notable Repub exception) so this is not like going to our base.? This is outreach.? Outreach is what we are here for.? We can and will wheel and deal on cost of getting space to accomplish our outreach mission. Green is Rainbow! Drew On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined > up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours > before negotiating for a reduction in price. > > I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a > great place to be tabling. ? ? ? How much money would we likely collect? ? ? ? I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of pocket expenses. ? ? ? Best Wishes, ? ? ? Spencer ? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >________________________________ > From: Drew >To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM >Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 > > > >Green Party Councilors and members, > > >For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event.? Sadly again this year there will not be a parade, though next year its likely. > > > >I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride.? I believe we should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the weekend.? He wants us there.? He set aside a premium space for us. I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask).? He said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything for $300.? He said if that was still too much we should talk to him about additional possibilities.? One way or the other I propose we work something out with him and participate.? > >? >Green is GO! > > >Drew > > >~*~*~*~ >Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >http://greenshadowcabinet.us > >Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 20:11:38 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 In-Reply-To: <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375413098.70013.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I would be willing to contribute $100 at the next Green Party meeting if we vote to do the deluxe set up for $400. (I get paid on the 21st.) I think it is worth it to have a credible stage presence with a canopy and tables, especially if we don't have to haul that stuff ourselves.? I can also be there to table one or both days if needed. John Thielking ________________________________ From: Drew To: Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 I don't think we should decide based on anticipated contributions and I would like to discourage that line of reasoning.? Our whole purpose is to get the Green word out, regardless.? With the victory over Prop 8 and the fact that as a party we've ALWAYS been LGBTQ positive, we are a good match for this event, but at the same time the LGBTQ community is deeply in the Dem corner (with notable Repub exception) so this is not like going to our base.? This is outreach.? Outreach is what we are here for.? We can and will wheel and deal on cost of getting space to accomplish our outreach mission. Green is Rainbow! Drew On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined > up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours > before negotiating for a reduction in price. > > I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a > great place to be tabling. ? ? ? How much money would we likely collect? ? ? ? I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of pocket expenses. ? ? ? Best Wishes, ? ? ? Spencer ? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >________________________________ > From: Drew >To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM >Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 > > > >Green Party Councilors and members, > > >For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event.? Sadly again this year there will not be a parade, though next year its likely. > > > >I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride.? I believe we should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the weekend.? He wants us there.? He set aside a premium space for us. I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask).? He said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything for $300.? He said if that was still too much we should talk to him about additional possibilities.? One way or the other I propose we work something out with him and participate.? > >? >Green is GO! > > >Drew > > >~*~*~*~ >Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >http://greenshadowcabinet.us > >Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > >_______________________________________________ >sosfbay-discuss mailing list >sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 20:39:55 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Reviews of restaraunts that are potentially GMO free Message-ID: <1375414795.72854.YahooMailNeo@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I am likely going to start including reviews of restaurants that are GMO free (ie where you can find SOMETHING significant on the menu that is GMO free) along with my nonviolent movie reviews in the Peacemovies.com newsletter and on the web site.? See two sample restaurant reviews below: John Thielking Marie Callenders 620 Blossom Hill Rd, San Jose, CA Paul Short has a anti-GMO products boycott list that includes Marie Callenders (the tv dinners I suppose). I am now officially taking Marie Callenders the restaurant off of the anti-GMO boycott list because of the following observations: 1) Last Sunday the chef who was cooking the omelettes during brunch used olive oil* instead of the (probably soy oil) that he used the previous week and 2) after inquiring about how they cook the Prime Rib dinner for Fri and Sat dinner service I found out that a) the meat is cooked in the oven without any oil and b) the vegetables are steamed (not deep fried or stir fried with oil as they are at some places). Please encourage Marie Callenders to expand their GMO free menu offerings.?? I don't know about their pies for instance. Coco's pies all have corn syrup in them for instance, which is GMO.? *Note that olive oil is often (up to 1/2 the time) fraudulently contaminated with GMO oils, so having a restaurant cook with olive oil is only a modest improvement over cooking with canola oil or soybean oil. Flames Bakery and Restaurant 449 S Winchester Blvd, San Jose, CA I decided to visit this restaurant today to check out how GMO free they could be. I came away very satisfied. I ordered the broiled chicken breast with steamed broccoli and mashed potatoes with gravy. The vegetables are normally sauteed in olive oil (which has a 50% chance of being GMO contaminated). To get steamed broccoli you have to be specific when you order and the broiled chicken is always broiled with no oil used at all. Steaks here are charbroiled which I suppose is the same thing. If you don't specify broccoli for the vegetables you will likely get squash or zuchinni which could be GMO. Broccoli so far is GMO free for sure. The mashed potatoes are GMO free, except possibly for the gravy which has vegetable broth of unspecified origin in it. The salad with no dressing? was just plain lettuce and shaved carrots with crutons (crutons likely contain GMO soy as most bread contains this).? 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URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Thu Aug 1 21:46:44 2013 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 21:46:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 In-Reply-To: <1375413098.70013.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375413098.70013.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51FB39B4.3090103@structuremonitoring.com> I agree (with Drew and probably everyone else) that we should not do everything based on money. I'm essentially a full time activist right now, because I think what I'm doing is important for the future of humanity, and Betsy and I are able to survive on what we have. Nevertheless, we (Spencer, Betsy and the Santa Clara Green Party) need to watch our finances. Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for those events? How many new Green party members did we get? How much money did we take in? How much did we spend? What was our net? How much did we spend for each new member? I very much appreciate John's very generous pledge and his commitment to be there both days. However, unless we can anticipate bringing in $300, we'll have to cover at least part of the cost of that event from other sources. If we subsidize participation in SJ Gay Pride from other sources, we should make sure the people who bring in those other funds feel like this is a good use of the money. Spencer p.s. I'm guilty of poor planning for the Foreclosure Summit last September 15. Occupy San Jos? (OSJ) contributed roughly $120 for that event. Caroline and Merriam collected $25 or so for the Green Party. I should have passed the hat after the presentations but before the discussion, but I didn't. As a result, other OSJ contributions subsidized that event. That was a mistake. If we are going to subsidize one event from others routinely, we need to discuss the finances openly, as noted above. p.p.s. Is it permissible to ask why SJ Pride needs to charge that much? We table at other events without paying anywhere near that. On 8/1/2013 8:11 PM, John Thielking wrote: > I would be willing to contribute $100 at the next Green Party meeting > if we vote to do the deluxe set up for $400. (I get paid on the 21st.) > I think it is worth it to have a credible stage presence with a canopy > and tables, especially if we don't have to haul that stuff ourselves. > I can also be there to table one or both days if needed. > > John Thielking > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Drew > *To:* Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM > *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 > > I don't think we should decide based on anticipated contributions and > I would like to discourage that line of reasoning. Our whole purpose > is to get the Green word out, regardless. With the victory over Prop > 8 and the fact that as a party we've ALWAYS been LGBTQ positive, we > are a good match for this event, but at the same time the LGBTQ > community is deeply in the Dem corner (with notable Repub exception) > so this is not like going to our base. This is outreach. Outreach is > what we are here for. We can and will wheel and deal on cost of > getting space to accomplish our outreach mission. > > Green is Rainbow! > > Drew > > On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > > At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined > > up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours > > before negotiating for a reduction in price. > > > > I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a > > great place to be tabling. > > > How much money would we likely collect? > > > I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided > we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of > pocket expenses. > > > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > Green is GO! > > Drew > > ~*~*~*~ > Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow > Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America > http://greenshadowcabinet.us > > Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests > First TV Ad http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Drew > *To:* "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" > *Sent:* Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM > *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 > > Green Party Councilors and members, > > For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ > Pride event. Sadly again this year there will not be a parade, > though next year its likely. > > I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride. I believe we > should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the > weekend. He wants us there. He set aside a premium space for us. > I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I > realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs > and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask). He > said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything > for $300. He said if that was still too much we should talk to > him about additional possibilities. One way or the other I > propose we work something out with him and participate. > Green is GO! > > Drew > > ~*~*~*~ > Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green > Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America > http://greenshadowcabinet.us > > Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Climate Voter Power Pledge: > http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests > First TV Ad http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Fri Aug 2 10:35:17 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 10:35:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] AGW on KQED Now In-Reply-To: <51FBECD4.6090909@earthlink.net> References: <51FBECD4.6090909@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <51FBEDD5.6040601@earthlink.net> "How to Survive the Apocalypse" http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201308021000 topics: - global warming - geoengineering - mass extinction - carbon negative cities - solar fuels (liquid) website: http://io9.com/ Gerry From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Aug 2 11:19:38 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 11:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 In-Reply-To: <51FB39B4.3090103@structuremonitoring.com> References: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375413098.70013.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51FB39B4.3090103@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: <1375467578.60728.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> First off a big thanks to John for stepping up to offer monetary and physical support for this proposal. Secondly yes it would be good to start recording all that kind of stats for our events, but we don't have it for past events except what we imagine we remember (which may not be accurate).? However even when we do, outreach is something that frequently doesn't really lend itself to a cost/benefit approach.? "Being seen wearing Green" and having our signs out and participating counts in ways that we can not measure.? Planting seeds is something we have to constantly do since we have such a low profile (imposed on us in many cases by the Titanic Parties) Thirdly to be specific about the SJ Pride Event I and Tian and a number of others participated several years in the past (I can not speak to the whole 9 years since i got active in Green Party community organizing in 2004 and didn't immediately participate in this particular event until probably 2007 or so).? Previously SJ Pride had the aforementioned parade (which last 2 years and this will not take place, but probably next year again), and i think we focused on that part to the point where I'm not even sure if we tabled or not.? Tian and I handed out lots of literature along the parade route and made our presence felt.? I don't know what (if anything) it cost to participate in the parade.? So we have an apples and oranges situation here.? We can not directly compare. I have often thought we Greens would be the natural fit for the LGBTQ community if the decision was purely based on values.? However the LGBTQ community is so deeply entrenched in the Dem's (and in general the status quo) camp that it is actually fairly challenging to get a hearing.? Right now I think we have more opportunity than perhaps we ever have had with the LGBTQ community.? Let's find a way to seize the day. ? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >________________________________ > From: Spencer Graves >To: John Thielking >Cc: Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:46 PM >Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 > > > >????? I agree (with Drew and probably everyone else) that we should not do everything based on money.? I'm essentially a full time activist right now, because I think what I'm doing is important for the future of humanity, and Betsy and I are able to survive on what we have.? Nevertheless, we (Spencer, Betsy and the Santa Clara Green Party) need to watch our finances.? > > >????? Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for those events?? How many new Green party members did we get?? How much money did we take in?? How much did we spend?? What was our net?? How much did we spend for each new member?? > > >????? I very much appreciate John's very generous pledge and his commitment to be there both days.? However, unless we can anticipate bringing in $300, we'll have to cover at least part of the cost of that event from other sources.? If we subsidize participation in SJ Gay Pride from other sources, we should make sure the people who bring in those other funds feel like this is a good use of the money.? > > >????? Spencer > > >p.s.? I'm guilty of poor planning for the Foreclosure Summit last September 15.? Occupy San Jos? (OSJ) contributed roughly $120 for that event.? Caroline and Merriam collected $25 or so for the Green Party.? I should have passed the hat after the presentations but before the discussion, but I didn't.? As a result, other OSJ contributions subsidized that event.? That was a mistake.? If we are going to subsidize one event from others routinely, we need to discuss the finances openly, as noted above.? > > >p.p.s.? Is it permissible to ask why SJ Pride needs to charge that much?? We table at other events without paying anywhere near that.? > > >On 8/1/2013 8:11 PM, John Thielking wrote: > >I would be willing to contribute $100 at the next Green Party meeting if we vote to do the deluxe set up for $400. (I get paid on the 21st.) I think it is worth it to have a credible stage presence with a canopy and tables, especially if we don't have to haul that stuff ourselves.? I can also be there to table one or both days if needed. >> >>John Thielking >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Drew >>To: Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >> >> >> >> >>I don't think we should decide based on anticipated contributions and I would like to discourage that line of reasoning.? Our whole purpose is to get the Green word out, regardless.? With the victory over Prop 8 and the fact that as a party we've ALWAYS been LGBTQ positive, we are a good match for this event, but at the same time the LGBTQ community is deeply in the Dem corner (with notable Repub exception) so this is not like going to our base.? This is outreach.? Outreach is what we are here for.? We can and will wheel and deal on cost of getting space to accomplish our outreach mission. >> >>Green is Rainbow! >> >>Drew >> >>On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>> At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined >>> up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours >>> before negotiating for a reduction in price. >>> >>> I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a >>> great place to be tabling. >> >> >>? ? ? How much money would we likely collect? >> >> >>? ? ? I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided >>we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of >>pocket expenses. >> >> >>? ? ? Best Wishes, >>? ? ? Spencer >> >> >>? >>Green is GO! >> >> >>Drew >> >> >>~*~*~*~ >>Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >>http://greenshadowcabinet.us >> >>Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >>Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >>? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Drew >>>To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM >>>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >>> >>> >>> >>>Green Party Councilors and members, >>> >>> >>>For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event.? Sadly again this year there will not be a parade, though next year its likely. >>> >>> >>> >>>I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride.? I believe we should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the weekend.? He wants us there.? He set aside a premium space for us. I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask).? He said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything for $300.? He said if that was still too much we should talk to him about additional possibilities.? One way or the other I propose we work something out with him and participate.? >>> >>>? >>>Green is GO! >>> >>> >>>Drew >>> >>> >>>~*~*~*~ >>>Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >>>http://greenshadowcabinet.us >>> >>>Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >>>Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >>>? ? 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URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 2 16:13:46 2013 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:13:46 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Gay Pride Message-ID: <51FC3D2A.8020303@sbcglobal.net> Spencer posed the questions Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for those events? How many new Green party members did we get? How much money did we take in? How much did we spend? What was our net? How much did we spend for each new member? The participation was marching in the parade. Perhaps only three or four people (fact checking?) The cost was $25 each year to be in the parade. The cost for a booth was prohibitive for us. I am not aware of anyone registering green at the parade or shortly thereafter based on our presence in the parade. Neither marchers nor leafletters collected any funds. Net 0 spent 25 got no new members If we were to have a booth we might get one or two people to register green. Jim Doyle From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 2 16:23:25 2013 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:23:25 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] STB Stop The Ban Coalition Message-ID: <51FC3F6D.5050607@sbcglobal.net> When was joining the STB coalition approved? Who was to notify STB that we were joining? From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Aug 2 16:42:30 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 In-Reply-To: <1375467578.60728.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375413098.70013.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51FB39B4.3090103@structuremonitoring.com> <1375467578.60728.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375486950.88584.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Jim, please when you're replying to a thread don't alter the thread name because it makes it hard to follow the discussion in the archives. Jim, I think it's not using fair debate tactics to word your point: "I am not aware of anyone registering green at the?parade or shortly thereafter based on our presence?in the parade.?" ?How would you or any of us know (unless we had directly sent in the forms ourselves)? ?Since we are not hovering over the Registrar of Voter's shoulder checking any incoming new registrants and we are not sent any kind of alert, we have no way of knowing. Further registrants while absolutely necessary are hardly the only measurement of an outreach's success. Money is certainly not either. ?Especially when we go into a semi-hostile environment such as one dominated by the Dems. And here's something to consider: how many (marketing-speak) impressions, contacts, and indeed registrants, contributors and new volunteers have we failed to connects since we have failed to have a booth low these many years. ?It's time to step it up, not shrink back. ?Very little positive can be had from shrinking back and all this negative do-nothing type sentiment. ?Green is bold! ?Famously our party's motto is "neither right, nor left, but forward!" its time to move forward. Green is GO! Drew Jim Doyle wrote:Spencer posed the questions ? ? ? Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has? participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for? those events?? How many new Green party members did we get?? How much? money did we take in?? How much did we spend?? What was our net?? How? much did we spend for each new member? The participation was marching in the parade. Perhaps only three or four people (fact checking?) The cost was $25 each year to be in the parade. The cost for a booth was prohibitive for us. I am not aware of anyone registering green at the parade or shortly thereafter based on our presence in the parade. Neither marchers nor leafletters collected any funds. Net 0 spent 25 got no new members If we were to have a booth we might get one or two people to register green. Jim Doyle ? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >________________________________ > From: Drew >To: Spencer Graves ; John Thielking >Cc: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 11:19 AM >Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 > > > >First off a big thanks to John for stepping up to offer monetary and physical support for this proposal. > > >Secondly yes it would be good to start recording all that kind of stats for our events, but we don't have it for past events except what we imagine we remember (which may not be accurate).? However even when we do, outreach is something that frequently doesn't really lend itself to a cost/benefit approach.? "Being seen wearing Green" and having our signs out and participating counts in ways that we can not measure.? Planting seeds is something we have to constantly do since we have such a low profile (imposed on us in many cases by the Titanic Parties) > > > >Thirdly to be specific about the SJ Pride Event I and Tian and a number of others participated several years in the past (I can not speak to the whole 9 years since i got active in Green Party community organizing in 2004 and didn't immediately participate in this particular event until probably 2007 or so).? Previously SJ Pride had the aforementioned parade (which last 2 years and this will not take place, but probably next year again), and i think we focused on that part to the point where I'm not even sure if we tabled or not.? Tian and I handed out lots of literature along the parade route and made our presence felt.? I don't know what (if anything) it cost to participate in the parade.? So we have an apples and oranges situation here.? We can not directly compare. > > >I have often thought we Greens would be the natural fit for the LGBTQ community if the decision was purely based on values.? However the LGBTQ community is so deeply entrenched in the Dem's (and in general the status quo) camp that it is actually fairly challenging to get a hearing.? Right now I think we have more opportunity than perhaps we ever have had with the LGBTQ community.? Let's find a way to seize the day. > >? >Green is GO! > > >Drew > > >~*~*~*~ >Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >http://greenshadowcabinet.us/about-green-shadow-cabinet-united-states > >Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Spencer Graves >>To: John Thielking >>Cc: Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:46 PM >>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >> >> >> >>????? I agree (with Drew and probably everyone else) that we should not do everything based on money.? I'm essentially a full time activist right now, because I think what I'm doing is important for the future of humanity, and Betsy and I are able to survive on what we have.? Nevertheless, we (Spencer, Betsy and the Santa Clara Green Party) need to watch our finances.? >> >> >>????? Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for those events?? How many new Green party members did we get?? How much money did we take in?? How much did we spend?? What was our net?? How much did we spend for each new member?? >> >> >>????? I very much appreciate John's very generous pledge and his commitment to be there both days.? However, unless we can anticipate bringing in $300, we'll have to cover at least part of the cost of that event from other sources.? If we subsidize participation in SJ Gay Pride from other sources, we should make sure the people who bring in those other funds feel like this is a good use of the money.? >> >> >>????? Spencer >> >> >>p.s.? I'm guilty of poor planning for the Foreclosure Summit last September 15.? Occupy San Jos? (OSJ) contributed roughly $120 for that event.? Caroline and Merriam collected $25 or so for the Green Party.? I should have passed the hat after the presentations but before the discussion, but I didn't.? As a result, other OSJ contributions subsidized that event.? That was a mistake.? If we are going to subsidize one event from others routinely, we need to discuss the finances openly, as noted above.? >> >> >>p.p.s.? Is it permissible to ask why SJ Pride needs to charge that much?? We table at other events without paying anywhere near that.? >> >> >>On 8/1/2013 8:11 PM, John Thielking wrote: >> >>I would be willing to contribute $100 at the next Green Party meeting if we vote to do the deluxe set up for $400. (I get paid on the 21st.) I think it is worth it to have a credible stage presence with a canopy and tables, especially if we don't have to haul that stuff ourselves.? I can also be there to table one or both days if needed. >>> >>>John Thielking >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Drew >>>To: Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM >>>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>I don't think we should decide based on anticipated contributions and I would like to discourage that line of reasoning.? Our whole purpose is to get the Green word out, regardless.? With the victory over Prop 8 and the fact that as a party we've ALWAYS been LGBTQ positive, we are a good match for this event, but at the same time the LGBTQ community is deeply in the Dem corner (with notable Repub exception) so this is not like going to our base.? This is outreach.? Outreach is what we are here for.? We can and will wheel and deal on cost of getting space to accomplish our outreach mission. >>> >>>Green is Rainbow! >>> >>>Drew >>> >>>On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>> At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined >>>> up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours >>>> before negotiating for a reduction in price. >>>> >>>> I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a >>>> great place to be tabling. >>> >>> >>>? ? ? How much money would we likely collect? >>> >>> >>>? ? ? I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided >>>we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of >>>pocket expenses. >>> >>> >>>? ? ? Best Wishes, >>>? ? ? Spencer >>> >>> >>>? >>>Green is GO! >>> >>> >>>Drew >>> >>> >>>~*~*~*~ >>>Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >>>http://greenshadowcabinet.us >>> >>>Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >>>Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >>>? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>________________________________ >>>> From: Drew >>>>To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>>>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM >>>>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Green Party Councilors and members, >>>> >>>> >>>>For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event.? Sadly again this year there will not be a parade, though next year its likely. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride.? I believe we should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the weekend.? He wants us there.? He set aside a premium space for us. I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask).? He said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything for $300.? He said if that was still too much we should talk to him about additional possibilities.? One way or the other I propose we work something out with him and participate.? >>>> >>>>? >>>>Green is GO! >>>> >>>> >>>>Drew >>>> >>>> >>>>~*~*~*~ >>>>Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >>>>http://greenshadowcabinet.us >>>> >>>>Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >>>>Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >>>>? ? 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URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Aug 2 17:34:04 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 17:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 In-Reply-To: <1375486950.88584.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375413098.70013.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51FB39B4.3090103@structuremonitoring.com> <1375467578.60728.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375486950.88584.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375490044.66281.YahooMailNeo@web125404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Also Jim, it occurs to me that to my knowledge you hadn't attended any of these events, so I can't see how you could give much of an evaluation as to their success. ?As leaders we need to be greasing the skids to make it easier for people to take the initiative and do Green Party organizing, "be seen wearing Green", getting out and being visible -- not throw water all over their ideas and grumble about spending money. ?A negative do-nothing approach grinds people down and discourages them from participating. ?My attitude is let's spend our money to do organizing! ?That's what we are collecting it for, not to sit on. ?We gain nothing by playing it safe. ?Now more than ever we need to be out making connections and certainly registering voters. So far I know of three of our core Green Party Organizers who are ready to participate: John Thielking, Debbie Stinson and myself. ?There is an ether pad at? ? ? ? ? https://pad.riseup.net/p/gpsccsjPride2013? for us to organize who will cover what time (noon to 7pm Saturday and Sunday). ? Here's the main SJ Pride web site:? ? ? ? http://sanjosepride.com So all who'd like to join in, step up and let's make this thing go. ?We can set a goal to sign up say 10 new Greens each of the days (and then try to far exceed the goal). Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >________________________________ > From: Drew >To: Drew ; Spencer Graves ; John Thielking >Cc: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 4:42 PM >Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 > > > >Jim, please when you're replying to a thread don't alter the thread name because it makes it hard to follow the discussion in the archives. > > >Jim, I think it's not using fair debate tactics to word your point: "I am not aware of anyone registering green at the?parade or shortly thereafter based on our presence?in the parade.?" ?How would you or any of us know (unless we had directly sent in the forms ourselves)? ?Since we are not hovering over the Registrar of Voter's shoulder checking any incoming new registrants and we are not sent any kind of alert, we have no way of knowing. > > >Further registrants while absolutely necessary are hardly the only measurement of an outreach's success. > > >Money is certainly not either. ?Especially when we go into a semi-hostile environment such as one dominated by the Dems. > > >And here's something to consider: how many (marketing-speak) impressions, contacts, and indeed registrants, contributors and new volunteers have we failed to connects since we have failed to have a booth low these many years. ?It's time to step it up, not shrink back. ?Very little positive can be had from shrinking back and all this negative do-nothing type sentiment. ?Green is bold! ?Famously our party's motto is "neither right, nor left, but forward!" its time to move forward. > > >Green is GO! > > >Drew > >Jim Doyle wrote:Spencer posed the questions > >? ? ? Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has? >participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for? >those events?? How many new Green party members did we get?? How much? >money did we take in?? How much did we spend?? What was our net?? How? >much did we spend for each new member? > > >The participation was marching in the parade. >Perhaps only three or four people (fact checking?) > >The cost was $25 each year to be in the parade. >The cost for a booth was prohibitive for us. > >I am not aware of anyone registering green at the >parade or shortly thereafter based on our presence >in the parade. > >Neither marchers nor leafletters collected any funds. >Net 0 >spent 25 got no new members > >If we were to have a booth we might get one or two >people to register green. > >Jim Doyle > >? > >Green is GO! > > >Drew > > >~*~*~*~ >Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >http://greenshadowcabinet.us > >Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Drew >>To: Spencer Graves ; John Thielking >>Cc: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 11:19 AM >>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >> >> >> >>First off a big thanks to John for stepping up to offer monetary and physical support for this proposal. >> >> >>Secondly yes it would be good to start recording all that kind of stats for our events, but we don't have it for past events except what we imagine we remember (which may not be accurate).? However even when we do, outreach is something that frequently doesn't really lend itself to a cost/benefit approach.? "Being seen wearing Green" and having our signs out and participating counts in ways that we can not measure.? Planting seeds is something we have to constantly do since we have such a low profile (imposed on us in many cases by the Titanic Parties) >> >> >> >>Thirdly to be specific about the SJ Pride Event I and Tian and a number of others participated several years in the past (I can not speak to the whole 9 years since i got active in Green Party community organizing in 2004 and didn't immediately participate in this particular event until probably 2007 or so).? Previously SJ Pride had the aforementioned parade (which last 2 years and this will not take place, but probably next year again), and i think we focused on that part to the point where I'm not even sure if we tabled or not.? Tian and I handed out lots of literature along the parade route and made our presence felt.? I don't know what (if anything) it cost to participate in the parade.? So we have an apples and oranges situation here.? We can not directly compare. >> >> >>I have often thought we Greens would be the natural fit for the LGBTQ community if the decision was purely based on values.? However the LGBTQ community is so deeply entrenched in the Dem's (and in general the status quo) camp that it is actually fairly challenging to get a hearing.? Right now I think we have more opportunity than perhaps we ever have had with the LGBTQ community.? Let's find a way to seize the day. >> >>? >>Green is GO! >> >> >>Drew >> >> >>~*~*~*~ >>Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >>http://greenshadowcabinet.us/about-green-shadow-cabinet-united-states >> >>Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >>Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >>? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Spencer Graves >>>To: John Thielking >>>Cc: Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:46 PM >>>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >>> >>> >>> >>>????? I agree (with Drew and probably everyone else) that we should not do everything based on money.? I'm essentially a full time activist right now, because I think what I'm doing is important for the future of humanity, and Betsy and I are able to survive on what we have.? Nevertheless, we (Spencer, Betsy and the Santa Clara Green Party) need to watch our finances.? >>> >>> >>>????? Drew said, "For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event." How much money did we spend for those events?? How many new Green party members did we get?? How much money did we take in?? How much did we spend?? What was our net?? How much did we spend for each new member?? >>> >>> >>>????? I very much appreciate John's very generous pledge and his commitment to be there both days.? However, unless we can anticipate bringing in $300, we'll have to cover at least part of the cost of that event from other sources.? If we subsidize participation in SJ Gay Pride from other sources, we should make sure the people who bring in those other funds feel like this is a good use of the money.? >>> >>> >>>????? Spencer >>> >>> >>>p.s.? I'm guilty of poor planning for the Foreclosure Summit last September 15.? Occupy San Jos? (OSJ) contributed roughly $120 for that event.? Caroline and Merriam collected $25 or so for the Green Party.? I should have passed the hat after the presentations but before the discussion, but I didn't.? As a result, other OSJ contributions subsidized that event.? That was a mistake.? If we are going to subsidize one event from others routinely, we need to discuss the finances openly, as noted above.? >>> >>> >>>p.p.s.? Is it permissible to ask why SJ Pride needs to charge that much?? We table at other events without paying anywhere near that.? >>> >>> >>>On 8/1/2013 8:11 PM, John Thielking wrote: >>> >>>I would be willing to contribute $100 at the next Green Party meeting if we vote to do the deluxe set up for $400. (I get paid on the 21st.) I think it is worth it to have a credible stage presence with a canopy and tables, especially if we don't have to haul that stuff ourselves.? I can also be there to table one or both days if needed. >>>> >>>>John Thielking >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>________________________________ >>>> From: Drew >>>>To: Drew ; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>>>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:36 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I don't think we should decide based on anticipated contributions and I would like to discourage that line of reasoning.? Our whole purpose is to get the Green word out, regardless.? With the victory over Prop 8 and the fact that as a party we've ALWAYS been LGBTQ positive, we are a good match for this event, but at the same time the LGBTQ community is deeply in the Dem corner (with notable Repub exception) so this is not like going to our base.? This is outreach.? Outreach is what we are here for.? We can and will wheel and deal on cost of getting space to accomplish our outreach mission. >>>> >>>>Green is Rainbow! >>>> >>>>Drew >>>> >>>>On 8/1/2013 3:24 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: >>>>> At that price it would be best to have enough tablers lined >>>>> up with solid commitments to be there to cover the hours >>>>> before negotiating for a reduction in price. >>>>> >>>>> I am of the opinion that the gap pride event would be a >>>>> great place to be tabling. >>>> >>>> >>>>? ? ? How much money would we likely collect? >>>> >>>> >>>>? ? ? I'm for tabling anywhere we can find volunteers to table provided >>>>we have some reasonable anticipation of covering most of our out of >>>>pocket expenses. >>>> >>>> >>>>? ? ? Best Wishes, >>>>? ? ? Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>>? >>>>Green is GO! >>>> >>>> >>>>Drew >>>> >>>> >>>>~*~*~*~ >>>>Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >>>>http://greenshadowcabinet.us >>>> >>>>Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >>>>Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >>>>? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>________________________________ >>>>> From: Drew >>>>>To: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" >>>>>Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM >>>>>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Green Party Councilors and members, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>For 7 out of the past 9 years the GPSCC has participated in the SJ Pride event.? Sadly again this year there will not be a parade, though next year its likely. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I spoke with Gary Walker, organizer of SJ Pride.? I believe we should finagle with him and wrangle some kind of presence for the weekend.? He wants us there.? He set aside a premium space for us. I want us to be there. The normal price for a nonprofit (high I realize, no need to tell me) is $400 including the tables, chairs and overhead cover (not certain about power - forgot to ask).? He said we could have a "Ground only" deal where we supply everything for $300.? He said if that was still too much we should talk to him about additional possibilities.? One way or the other I propose we work something out with him and participate.? >>>>> >>>>>? >>>>>Green is GO! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Drew >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>~*~*~*~ >>>>>Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >>>>>http://greenshadowcabinet.us >>>>> >>>>>Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ >>>>>Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >>>>>? ? 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Just a note in case folks had missed it (as I did). ?Cindy Sheehan is running on the Peace and Freedom 2014 ballot line for governor of California. http://www.peaceandfreedom.org/home/campaign/june-2014/1056-sheehan-for-governor-2014 >>>(She also has an FB page though since I'm anti-FB I won't include it). Laura Wells:?http://www.laurawells.org Wells has filed a "Statement of Intention" to run for?California Controller?in the?2014 elections.??http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Laura_Wells Unfortunately Laura's web site and?FB page??still talk about running for governor (which she did in the last cycle). ?Hopefully she'll update these soon. >>>(She also has an FB page though since I'm anti-FB I won't include it). >>> >>> David Curtis:?http://www.votedavidcurtis.org Is running for the?Green Party's 2014 nomination for Secretary of State. >>(He also has an FB page though since I'm anti-FB I won't include it). Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From:?Edy Alvarez >To:?"gpca-grow at cagreens.org" ? >Sent:?Friday, August 2, 2013 5:34 PM >Subject:?[gpca-grow] Join the Green Party this Sunday at the Zeitgeist Festival in Hollywood! > > > >Join the Green Party of Los Angeles County, with special guest Green Party Congressional candidate Michael Powelson and a special representative of the Luis Rodriguez for Governor campaign, this Sunday at the Avalon club in Hollywood from 3-11pm. We will be registering new voters and handing out Green Party flyers, as well as selling Green Party buttons, merchandise, and T-shirts. > >If you would like to volunteer (volunteers get in for free), please send?Edy Alvarez or Michael Feinstein?an email?with your name and the time shift for which you can volunteer for.? > >Edy Alvarez >Green Party of Los Angeles?County Co-Coordinator > >818-336-2834 > >Event page:?https://www.facebook.com/events/299650253511761/?ref=22 >Green Party LA County FB:?https://www.facebook.com/gplac >?????????? >_______________________________________________ >gpca-grow mailing list >gpca-grow at cagreens.org >http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-grow > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Aug 3 00:02:51 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 00:02:51 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Friday Common Dreams on Climate Change In-Reply-To: <51FCAAA7.60403@earthlink.net> References: <51FCAAA7.60403@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <51FCAB1B.208@earthlink.net> FYI, Common Dreams carries a lot of articles about climate change. Here, for example, is what it has for Friday, August 2nd: "Tens of Thousands of Pipeline Miles at Risk of Pegasus-Style Rupture That Spewed Tar Sands Into Arkansas Town" "Review of Pegasus pipeline found known 'manufacturing defects' likely cause of Mayflower oil spill" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/08/02-7 "Massive Toxic Black Cloud, Brought To You by the Koch Bros, Blows Over Detroit" http://www.commondreams.org/further/2013/08/02 "Study: Today's Climate Change is 10X Faster Than Any Climate Shift Ever Recorded" "Scientists expose terrifying rate of global warming and spread of disease that goes along with it" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/08/02-8 "Going East! Transcanada to Build Tar Sands Pipeline to Atlantic" "'They're in for a fight' say environmentalists on both sides of the US/Canada border" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/08/02-0 Gerry From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Sat Aug 3 01:11:41 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 01:11:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? In-Reply-To: <51FC9C02.8030406@sbcglobal.net> References: <51FC8D37.7050704@prodsyse.com> <51FC9C02.8030406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1375517501.87522.YahooMailNeo@web125403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Yes, endorse. ? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >________________________________ > From: Jim Doyle >To: Spencer Graves >Cc: Lynn Huidekoper ; GPSCC ; Drew ; John Thielking ; Betsy Wolf-Graves >Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 10:58 PM >Subject: Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? > > >Yes, endorse. >Jim Doyle > >Spencer Graves wrote: > >> Hello, Drew, John, Jim, Lynn: >> >> >> DREW, JOHN, JIM:? Should the Green Party of Santa Clara County add its >> name to the "Stop the Ban Coalition", officially opposing the proposed >> ban on sleeping in vehicles in Palo Alto?? Betsy and I vote to oppose >> this proposed ban. >> >> >> LYNN: >> >> >>? ? ? I checked the minutes:? This campaign was discussed, but a vote >> was not recorded.? The alternative is to get four of the five members >> of our County Council to support a resolution opposing the ban.? We >> already have 2 votes;? we need 2 from the remaining 3 (Drew, John and >> Jim).? I'd be shocked if we don't get them, but we need to follow the >> rules. >> >> >>? ? ? FYI, you may know that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party candidate >> for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while living in >> her car.? Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk >> driver in Minnesota in the winter >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala).? ? >> >> >>? ? ? Best Wishes, >>? ? ? Spencer >> >> >> On 8/2/2013 6:07 PM, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: >> >>> Spencer, >>> I believe that I met you at a Green Party meeting at the Peace Ctr. >>> where I gave a talk on Single Payer. Caroline heard that at the >>> recent (?)council(?) meeting that you took a vote to add your org. to >>> the Stop the Ban Coalition which is fighting the City Council in PA >>> to stop them from voting on a vehicle ban on Monday night. She >>> doesn't know who was supposed to contact our Coalition to add your >>> name but she said that you take the minutes and would know. We'd love >>> to get the OK to put it on the Rally flyer for Monday night.? You can >>> send it to stoptheban13 at gmail.com and >>> copy it to all of us. >>> >>> Sat. night Caroline, Tian Harter, Dana St. George, Gerry Gras, and >>> Brian attended a Community Dinner held at Cubberley Comm. Center >>> which has been the "hot spot" per the police, where approx. 30-40 >>> people sleep in their vehicles in the back.? New City Council members >>> who support that ban ar being swayed by the NIMBY folks. Even some of >>> them are snobs. In speaking with a CC person and Human Relations >>> Commissioner, they are believing the lies about the homeless because >>> they have never bothered to meet with them. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Lynn >>> >>> /*Lynn Huidekoper, RN*/ >>> /*Legislative Liaison, Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare >>> Coalition*/ >>> /*Health Care for All-CA, Santa Clara County Chapter*/ >>> /*https://www.facebook.com/CampaignForAHealthyCalifornia?fref=ts*/ >>> /*Menlo Park, CA.*/ >>> /*650-322-9609*/ >>> /*Health Care is a Human Right*/ >> >> >> >>-- >>Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >>President and Chief Technology Officer >>Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >>751 Emerson Ct. >>San Jos?, CA 95126 >>ph:? 408-655-4567 >>web:? www.structuremonitoring.com >>? >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Aug 3 01:54:59 2013 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 01:54:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? In-Reply-To: <1375516255.23541.YahooMailNeo@web125404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <51FC8D37.7050704@prodsyse.com> <51FC9C02.8030406@sbcglobal.net> <1375516255.23541.YahooMailNeo@web125404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51FCC563.3060208@prodsyse.com> Hello: The Green Party of Santa Clara County is pleased to endorse the "Stop the Ban Coalition". Thanks for all your work to support the homeless. You might be interested in knowing that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party candidate for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while living in her car. Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk driver in Minnesota in the winter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala). Thanks again, Spencer Graves On 8/3/2013 12:50 AM, Drew wrote: > Yes, endorse. > Green is GO! > > Drew > > ~*~*~*~ > Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow > Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America > http://greenshadowcabinet.us > > Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests > First TV Ad http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Jim Doyle > *To:* Spencer Graves > *Cc:* Lynn Huidekoper ; GPSCC > ; Drew ; > John Thielking ; Betsy Wolf-Graves > > *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2013 10:58 PM > *Subject:* Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban > Coalition? > > Yes, endorse. > Jim Doyle > > Spencer Graves wrote: > > > Hello, Drew, John, Jim, Lynn: > > > > > > DREW, JOHN, JIM: Should the Green Party of Santa Clara County > add its > > name to the "Stop the Ban Coalition", officially opposing the > proposed > > ban on sleeping in vehicles in Palo Alto? Betsy and I vote to > oppose > > this proposed ban. > > > > > > LYNN: > > > > > > I checked the minutes: This campaign was discussed, but a > vote > > was not recorded. The alternative is to get four of the five > members > > of our County Council to support a resolution opposing the ban. We > > already have 2 votes; we need 2 from the remaining 3 (Drew, > John and > > Jim). I'd be shocked if we don't get them, but we need to > follow the > > rules. > > > > > > FYI, you may know that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party > candidate > > for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while > living in > > her car. Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk > > driver in Minnesota in the winter > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala). > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > Spencer > > > > > > On 8/2/2013 6:07 PM, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: > > > >> Spencer, > >> I believe that I met you at a Green Party meeting at the Peace > Ctr. > >> where I gave a talk on Single Payer. Caroline heard that at the > >> recent (?)council(?) meeting that you took a vote to add your > org. to > >> the Stop the Ban Coalition which is fighting the City Council > in PA > >> to stop them from voting on a vehicle ban on Monday night. She > >> doesn't know who was supposed to contact our Coalition to add your > >> name but she said that you take the minutes and would know. > We'd love > >> to get the OK to put it on the Rally flyer for Monday night. > You can > >> send it to stoptheban13 at gmail.com > > and > >> copy it to all of us. > >> > >> Sat. night Caroline, Tian Harter, Dana St. George, Gerry Gras, and > >> Brian attended a Community Dinner held at Cubberley Comm. Center > >> which has been the "hot spot" per the police, where approx. 30-40 > >> people sleep in their vehicles in the back. New City Council > members > >> who support that ban ar being swayed by the NIMBY folks. Even > some of > >> them are snobs. In speaking with a CC person and Human Relations > >> Commissioner, they are believing the lies about the homeless > because > >> they have never bothered to meet with them. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Lynn > >> > >> /*Lynn Huidekoper, RN*/ > >> /*Legislative Liaison, Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare > >> Coalition*/ > >> /*Health Care for All-CA, Santa Clara County Chapter*/ > >> /*https://www.facebook.com/CampaignForAHealthyCalifornia?fref=ts*/ > >> /*Menlo Park, CA.*/ > >> /*650-322-9609*/ > >> /*Health Care is a Human Right*/ > > > > > > > >-- > >Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > >President and Chief Technology Officer > >Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > >751 Emerson Ct. > >San Jos?, CA 95126 > >ph: 408-655-4567 > >web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > > > > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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In-Reply-To: <1375542396.97620.YahooMailNeo@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <51FC8D37.7050704@prodsyse.com> <51FC9C02.8030406@sbcglobal.net> <1375542396.97620.YahooMailNeo@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375542659.13443.YahooMailNeo@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ________________________________ From: John Thielking To: Jim Doyle ; Spencer Graves Cc: Lynn Huidekoper ; GPSCC ; Drew ; Betsy Wolf-Graves Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? Yes endorse. John Thielking ________________________________ From: Jim Doyle To: Spencer Graves Cc: Lynn Huidekoper ; GPSCC ; Drew ; John Thielking ; Betsy Wolf-Graves Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? Yes, endorse. Jim Doyle Spencer Graves wrote: > Hello, Drew, John, Jim, Lynn: > > > DREW, JOHN, JIM:? Should the Green Party of Santa Clara County add its > name to the "Stop the Ban Coalition", officially opposing the proposed > ban on sleeping in vehicles in Palo Alto?? Betsy and I vote to oppose > this proposed ban. > > > LYNN: > > >? ? ? I checked the minutes:? This campaign was discussed, but a vote > was not recorded.? The alternative is to get four of the five members > of our County Council to support a resolution opposing the ban.? We > already have 2 votes;? we need 2 from the remaining 3 (Drew, John and > Jim).? I'd be shocked if we don't get them, but we need to follow the > rules. > > >? ? ? FYI, you may know that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party candidate > for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while living in > her car.? Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk > driver in Minnesota in the winter > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala).? ? > > >? ? ? Best Wishes, >? ? ? Spencer > > > On 8/2/2013 6:07 PM, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: > >> Spencer, >> I believe that I met you at a Green Party meeting at the Peace Ctr. >> where I gave a talk on Single Payer. Caroline heard that at the >> recent (?)council(?) meeting that you took a vote to add your org. to >> the Stop the Ban Coalition which is fighting the City Council in PA >> to stop them from voting on a vehicle ban on Monday night. She >> doesn't know who was supposed to contact our Coalition to add your >> name but she said that you take the minutes and would know. We'd love >> to get the OK to put it on the Rally flyer for Monday night.? You can >> send it to stoptheban13 at gmail.com and >> copy it to all of us. >> >> Sat. night Caroline, Tian Harter, Dana St. George, Gerry Gras, and >> Brian attended a Community Dinner held at Cubberley Comm. Center >> which has been the "hot spot" per the police, where approx. 30-40 >> people sleep in their vehicles in the back.? New City Council members >> who support that ban ar being swayed by the NIMBY folks. Even some of >> them are snobs. In speaking with a CC person and Human Relations >> Commissioner, they are believing the lies about the homeless because >> they have never bothered to meet with them. >> >> Thanks, >> Lynn >> >> /*Lynn Huidekoper, RN*/ >> /*Legislative Liaison, Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare >> Coalition*/ >> /*Health Care for All-CA, Santa Clara County Chapter*/ >> /*https://www.facebook.com/CampaignForAHealthyCalifornia?fref=ts*/ >> /*Menlo Park, CA.*/ >> /*650-322-9609*/ >> /*Health Care is a Human Right*/ > > > >-- >Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >President and Chief Technology Officer >Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >751 Emerson Ct. >San Jos?, CA 95126 >ph:? 408-655-4567 >web:? www.structuremonitoring.com >? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Fri Aug 2 21:55:19 2013 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 21:55:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51FC8D37.7050704@prodsyse.com> Hello, Drew, John, Jim, Lynn: DREW, JOHN, JIM: Should the Green Party of Santa Clara County add its name to the "Stop the Ban Coalition", officially opposing the proposed ban on sleeping in vehicles in Palo Alto? Betsy and I vote to oppose this proposed ban. LYNN: I checked the minutes: This campaign was discussed, but a vote was not recorded. The alternative is to get four of the five members of our County Council to support a resolution opposing the ban. We already have 2 votes; we need 2 from the remaining 3 (Drew, John and Jim). I'd be shocked if we don't get them, but we need to follow the rules. FYI, you may know that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party candidate for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while living in her car. Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk driver in Minnesota in the winter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala). Best Wishes, Spencer On 8/2/2013 6:07 PM, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: > Spencer, > I believe that I met you at a Green Party meeting at the Peace Ctr. > where I gave a talk on Single Payer. Caroline heard that at the recent > (?)council(?) meeting that you took a vote to add your org. to the > Stop the Ban Coalition which is fighting the City Council in PA to > stop them from voting on a vehicle ban on Monday night. She doesn't > know who was supposed to contact our Coalition to add your name but > she said that you take the minutes and would know. We'd love to get > the OK to put it on the Rally flyer for Monday night. You can send it > to stoptheban13 at gmail.com and copy it > to all of us. > > Sat. night Caroline, Tian Harter, Dana St. George, Gerry Gras, and > Brian attended a Community Dinner held at Cubberley Comm. Center which > has been the "hot spot" per the police, where approx. 30-40 people > sleep in their vehicles in the back. New City Council members who > support that ban ar being swayed by the NIMBY folks. Even some of them > are snobs. In speaking with a CC person and Human Relations > Commissioner, they are believing the lies about the homeless because > they have never bothered to meet with them. > > Thanks, > Lynn > > /*Lynn Huidekoper, RN*/ > /*Legislative Liaison, Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare > Coalition*/ > /*Health Care for All-CA, Santa Clara County Chapter*/ > /*https://www.facebook.com/CampaignForAHealthyCalifornia?fref=ts*/ > /*Menlo Park, CA.*/ > /*650-322-9609*/ > /*Health Care is a Human Right*/ -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 2 22:58:26 2013 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 22:58:26 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? In-Reply-To: <51FC8D37.7050704@prodsyse.com> References: <51FC8D37.7050704@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <51FC9C02.8030406@sbcglobal.net> Yes, endorse. Jim Doyle Spencer Graves wrote: > Hello, Drew, John, Jim, Lynn: > > > DREW, JOHN, JIM: Should the Green Party of Santa Clara County add its > name to the "Stop the Ban Coalition", officially opposing the proposed > ban on sleeping in vehicles in Palo Alto? Betsy and I vote to oppose > this proposed ban. > > > LYNN: > > > I checked the minutes: This campaign was discussed, but a vote > was not recorded. The alternative is to get four of the five members > of our County Council to support a resolution opposing the ban. We > already have 2 votes; we need 2 from the remaining 3 (Drew, John and > Jim). I'd be shocked if we don't get them, but we need to follow the > rules. > > > FYI, you may know that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party candidate > for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while living in > her car. Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk > driver in Minnesota in the winter > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala). > > > Best Wishes, > Spencer > > > On 8/2/2013 6:07 PM, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: > >> Spencer, >> I believe that I met you at a Green Party meeting at the Peace Ctr. >> where I gave a talk on Single Payer. Caroline heard that at the >> recent (?)council(?) meeting that you took a vote to add your org. to >> the Stop the Ban Coalition which is fighting the City Council in PA >> to stop them from voting on a vehicle ban on Monday night. She >> doesn't know who was supposed to contact our Coalition to add your >> name but she said that you take the minutes and would know. We'd love >> to get the OK to put it on the Rally flyer for Monday night. You can >> send it to stoptheban13 at gmail.com and >> copy it to all of us. >> >> Sat. night Caroline, Tian Harter, Dana St. George, Gerry Gras, and >> Brian attended a Community Dinner held at Cubberley Comm. Center >> which has been the "hot spot" per the police, where approx. 30-40 >> people sleep in their vehicles in the back. New City Council members >> who support that ban ar being swayed by the NIMBY folks. Even some of >> them are snobs. In speaking with a CC person and Human Relations >> Commissioner, they are believing the lies about the homeless because >> they have never bothered to meet with them. >> >> Thanks, >> Lynn >> >> /*Lynn Huidekoper, RN*/ >> /*Legislative Liaison, Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare >> Coalition*/ >> /*Health Care for All-CA, Santa Clara County Chapter*/ >> /*https://www.facebook.com/CampaignForAHealthyCalifornia?fref=ts*/ >> /*Menlo Park, CA.*/ >> /*650-322-9609*/ >> /*Health Care is a Human Right*/ > > > >-- >Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >President and Chief Technology Officer >Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >751 Emerson Ct. >San Jos?, CA 95126 >ph: 408-655-4567 >web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Sat Aug 3 08:06:36 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 08:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? In-Reply-To: <51FC9C02.8030406@sbcglobal.net> References: <51FC8D37.7050704@prodsyse.com> <51FC9C02.8030406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1375542396.97620.YahooMailNeo@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Yes endorse. John Thielking ________________________________ From: Jim Doyle To: Spencer Graves Cc: Lynn Huidekoper ; GPSCC ; Drew ; John Thielking ; Betsy Wolf-Graves Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? Yes, endorse. Jim Doyle Spencer Graves wrote: > Hello, Drew, John, Jim, Lynn: > > > DREW, JOHN, JIM:? Should the Green Party of Santa Clara County add its > name to the "Stop the Ban Coalition", officially opposing the proposed > ban on sleeping in vehicles in Palo Alto?? Betsy and I vote to oppose > this proposed ban. > > > LYNN: > > >? ? ? I checked the minutes:? This campaign was discussed, but a vote > was not recorded.? The alternative is to get four of the five members > of our County Council to support a resolution opposing the ban.? We > already have 2 votes;? we need 2 from the remaining 3 (Drew, John and > Jim).? I'd be shocked if we don't get them, but we need to follow the > rules. > > >? ? ? FYI, you may know that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party candidate > for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while living in > her car.? Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk > driver in Minnesota in the winter > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala).? ? > > >? ? ? Best Wishes, >? ? ? Spencer > > > On 8/2/2013 6:07 PM, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: > >> Spencer, >> I believe that I met you at a Green Party meeting at the Peace Ctr. >> where I gave a talk on Single Payer. Caroline heard that at the >> recent (?)council(?) meeting that you took a vote to add your org. to >> the Stop the Ban Coalition which is fighting the City Council in PA >> to stop them from voting on a vehicle ban on Monday night. She >> doesn't know who was supposed to contact our Coalition to add your >> name but she said that you take the minutes and would know. We'd love >> to get the OK to put it on the Rally flyer for Monday night.? You can >> send it to stoptheban13 at gmail.com and >> copy it to all of us. >> >> Sat. night Caroline, Tian Harter, Dana St. George, Gerry Gras, and >> Brian attended a Community Dinner held at Cubberley Comm. Center >> which has been the "hot spot" per the police, where approx. 30-40 >> people sleep in their vehicles in the back.? New City Council members >> who support that ban ar being swayed by the NIMBY folks. Even some of >> them are snobs. In speaking with a CC person and Human Relations >> Commissioner, they are believing the lies about the homeless because >> they have never bothered to meet with them. >> >> Thanks, >> Lynn >> >> /*Lynn Huidekoper, RN*/ >> /*Legislative Liaison, Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare >> Coalition*/ >> /*Health Care for All-CA, Santa Clara County Chapter*/ >> /*https://www.facebook.com/CampaignForAHealthyCalifornia?fref=ts*/ >> /*Menlo Park, CA.*/ >> /*650-322-9609*/ >> /*Health Care is a Human Right*/ > > > >-- >Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >President and Chief Technology Officer >Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >751 Emerson Ct. >San Jos?, CA 95126 >ph:? 408-655-4567 >web:? www.structuremonitoring.com >? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It?s a new primary system andany voter can vote for any candidate for state and local office regardless of political party. > > How many times have you heard candidates say one thing and then get into office and do something else altogether? Then they run again ? and expect our votes ? on the basis that at least they?re better than the candidate from the other corporate-funded Titanic Party! Why don?t they walk their talk when they get elected? It?s corporate money, simple as that. Taking corporate campaign money is the first line a candidate crosses, and after that, they have to toe the line. > > The freedom candidates have when they do not take corporate money! > > I attended a march and rally today in Richmond, California, an East Bay city of about 100,000 that has Chevron refineries. Richmond has run slates of candidates who pledge to take no corporate money. My favorite election in Richmond was in 2010 when Chevron, the biggest corporation in California, put a million dollars into three races, and lost, lost, and lost. > > After being in Richmond today, I?m inspired all over again! > > I am running for State Controller. We need to follow the money if we want to know what?s gone wrong with our schools, jobs, justice, health, and homes! Joining me will be other candidates pledging to take no corporate money. > > I?m urging everyone to use all the power you have to stop corporate control of our government. Ironically the 1% knows better than anyone how powerful the 99% is. Use all the power you have, and vote for real people, who do not take corporate money! > > > > That?s it for now. I?m trying to keep it as short as possible, and trying a new email system. I hope to send you a monthly update ? maybe on the 3rd of every month ? counting down to our chance to elect people into office who will champion the great solutions people are coming up with! > > My best website currently is my blog at laurawellssolutions.com (there?s a little ?follow? to click in the lower right corner). My Green Governor website www.laurawells.org will get updated one of these months! My contact information is below. If you are able to help financially, please mail your check to my P.O. Box for now, and I expect to make it possible to donate online soon. > > Thank you for all you do! And good luck to all of us. > > > Laura Wells for Controller 2014 > P.O. 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URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Sun Aug 4 18:53:55 2013 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 18:53:55 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 In-Reply-To: <1375490044.66281.YahooMailNeo@web125404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1375381640.1505.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375407410.18560.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375413098.70013.YahooMailNeo@web122905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51FB39B4.3090103@structuremonitoring.com> <1375467578.60728.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375486950.88584.YahooMailNeo@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1375490044.66281.YahooMailNeo@web125404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51FF05B3.4070208@structuremonitoring.com> Hello, All: 1. Can either Drew or John negotiate a reduced price for this? For example, if we could table only 1 day, not 2, for $50, that would be more compatible with our resources -- both financial and human: Betsy and I could provide a standard card table and up to 4 folding chairs to go with the Green Party canopy in our garage. I'm willing to drop that off, help set it up, then come and take it down. However, I'm not eager to do that twice, and I'd want some assurance that it wouldn't walk off overnight. I don't know if we have others who can transport much more than their own bodies. 2. Why are the organizers for this event asking so much money for a table? Is this to support a six figure salary for the primary organizers? 3. If my memory is correct, there has been no charge for many of the events we've tabled at in the past. When there was a charge, it was typically $50 or less. When it was over $50, we often declined to table. 4. I accept Drew's argument that this could be a better audience for us than many other events. However, I'm not sure it's 7 times better than events that charged $60 for which we declined to participate. 5. If Drew and John can negotiate a price like $150, the County Council will support that (with John's $100 pledge) -- provided we don't have to worry about our schwag and any table and canopy we provide disappearing overnight. 6. I very much appreciate the energy John and Drew have expressed for this event. I hope that whatever we do, they will six months from now view it a reasonable use of our limited resources. Comments? Best Wishes, Spencer -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 00:12:04 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 00:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [gpca-grow] Laura Wells Announces Run for Controller In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1375686724.68396.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ gpca-grow mailing list gpca-grow at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-grow From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Mon Aug 5 00:38:06 2013 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 00:38:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 (Spencer Graves) Message-ID: <51FF565E.9040109@sbcglobal.net> Re Spencer's 5-th item : 5. If Drew and John can negotiate a price like $150, the County Council will support that (with John's $100 pledge) -- provided we don't have to worry about our schwag and any table and canopy we provide disappearing overnight. Generally, at events like this they do provide security. For example,they provide security at Juneteenth and there isn't even a fence aroundthe grounds at Juneteenth. We have tabled at this site - Discovery Meadows - in the past when they had the Fourth of July weekend festival there and there was security. That was also put on by Gary Walker. From WB4D23 at aol.com Mon Aug 5 12:48:13 2013 From: WB4D23 at aol.com (WB4D23 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Proposal to participate, Aug 17-18 Message-ID: <36126.3addf42f.3f315b7d@aol.com> August 5, 2013 In the one year I tabled at a San Jose Gay Pride Festival, it was held in a security fenced area in the Children's Discovery Museum Field. That meant the festival organizers were on City owned property with whatever fees that involved. I do not know what the formal name of the organization was/is, but presumably the "table fees", along with the admission fees, are an attempt by the event organizers, are intended to recoup event expenses (e.g., permit and rental fees). 'Just my two zloty's. Warner In a message dated 8/4/2013 6:54:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com writes: 2. Why are the organizers for this event asking so much money for a table? Is this to support a six figure salary for the primary organizers? 3. If my memory is correct, there has been no charge for many of the events we've tabled at in the past. When there was a charge, it was typically $50 or less. When it was over $50, we often declined to table. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Mon Aug 5 15:48:32 2013 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 15:48:32 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52002BC0.2040501@prodsyse.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the Ban Coalition? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:46:38 -0700 From: Stop the Ban To: Spencer Graves Great Spencer! You'll see we've added ya'll to the list in the signature below. If it's not there and I goofed let me know. Hopefully we'll see some of you tonight at the rally (6 p.m. City Hall) or City Council meeting (the topic is on the agenda for 8:30ish) On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Spencer Graves > wrote: Hello: The Green Party of Santa Clara County is pleased to endorse the "Stop the Ban Coalition". Thanks for all your work to support the homeless. You might be interested in knowing that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party candidate for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while living in her car. Things got much worse when the car was totaled by a drunk driver in Minnesota in the winter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala). Thanks again, Spencer Graves On 8/3/2013 12:50 AM, Drew wrote: > Yes, endorse. > Green is GO! > > Drew > > ~*~*~*~ > Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green > Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America > http://greenshadowcabinet.us > > Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Climate Voter Power Pledge: > http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests > First TV Ad http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Jim Doyle > > *To:* Spencer Graves > > *Cc:* Lynn Huidekoper > ; GPSCC > > ; Drew > ; > John Thielking > ; Betsy Wolf-Graves > > *Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2013 10:58 PM > *Subject:* Re: Green Party adding their name to the Stop the > Ban Coalition? > > Yes, endorse. > Jim Doyle > > Spencer Graves wrote: > > > Hello, Drew, John, Jim, Lynn: > > > > > > DREW, JOHN, JIM: Should the Green Party of Santa Clara > County add its > > name to the "Stop the Ban Coalition", officially opposing > the proposed > > ban on sleeping in vehicles in Palo Alto? Betsy and I vote > to oppose > > this proposed ban. > > > > > > LYNN: > > > > > > I checked the minutes: This campaign was discussed, > but a vote > > was not recorded. The alternative is to get four of the > five members > > of our County Council to support a resolution opposing the > ban. We > > already have 2 votes; we need 2 from the remaining 3 (Drew, > John and > > Jim). I'd be shocked if we don't get them, but we need to > follow the > > rules. > > > > > > FYI, you may know that Cheri Honkala, the Green Party > candidate > > for Vice President last year, raised her son in part while > living in > > her car. Things got much worse when the car was totaled by > a drunk > > driver in Minnesota in the winter > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Honkala). > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > Spencer > > > > > > On 8/2/2013 6:07 PM, Lynn Huidekoper wrote: > > > >> Spencer, > >> I believe that I met you at a Green Party meeting at the > Peace Ctr. > >> where I gave a talk on Single Payer. Caroline heard that at > the > >> recent (?)council(?) meeting that you took a vote to add > your org. to > >> the Stop the Ban Coalition which is fighting the City > Council in PA > >> to stop them from voting on a vehicle ban on Monday night. She > >> doesn't know who was supposed to contact our Coalition to > add your > >> name but she said that you take the minutes and would know. > We'd love > >> to get the OK to put it on the Rally flyer for Monday > night. You can > >> send it to stoptheban13 at gmail.com > > and > >> copy it to all of us. > >> > >> Sat. night Caroline, Tian Harter, Dana St. George, Gerry > Gras, and > >> Brian attended a Community Dinner held at Cubberley Comm. > Center > >> which has been the "hot spot" per the police, where approx. > 30-40 > >> people sleep in their vehicles in the back. New City > Council members > >> who support that ban ar being swayed by the NIMBY folks. > Even some of > >> them are snobs. In speaking with a CC person and Human > Relations > >> Commissioner, they are believing the lies about the > homeless because > >> they have never bothered to meet with them. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Lynn > >> > >> /*Lynn Huidekoper, RN*/ > >> /*Legislative Liaison, Santa Clara County Single Payer > Healthcare > >> Coalition*/ > >> /*Health Care for All-CA, Santa Clara County Chapter*/ > >> > /*https://www.facebook.com/CampaignForAHealthyCalifornia?fref=ts*/ > >> /*Menlo Park, CA.*/ > >> /*650-322-9609*/ > >> /*Health Care is a Human Right*/ > > > > > > > >-- > >Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > >President and Chief Technology Officer > >Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > >751 Emerson Ct. > >San Jos?, CA 95126 > >ph: 408-655-4567 > >web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > > > > > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web:www.structuremonitoring.com -- Stop the Ban is a coalition of individuals and organizations that oppose Palo Alto's ordinance that would ban vehicle dwelling. We think the city can address this issue in a more humane and creative way. Organizations participating in the coalition include: Action Council of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Palo Alto Palo Alto Friends Meeting First Presbyterian Church of Palo Alto Community Cooperation Team Green Party of Santa Clara County Midtown Neighbors & Friends Neighbors Helping Neighbors Occupy Redwood City Occupy San Jose Peninsula Direct Action Peninsula Peace and Justice Center Santa Clara County Single Payer Healthcare Coalition Women's International League for Peace and Freedom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We want to make the biggest splash possible when we crash ALEC's 40th anniversary meeting in Chicago. So we'll need thousands more people to sign our petition to ensure the media and Sallie Mae executives know the company's membership in ALEC is unacceptable. Will you take a moment to forward the message below to your friends and family and encourage them to protest Sallie Mae's membership in ALEC? (Or if you prefer, you can also share on Facebook and Twitter.) Thank you! ?Chris Tell Sallie Mae to end its membership in ALEC. Sign the petition now! Dear John, It only takes three words to explain why ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, is bad for our country: Stand Your Ground. But it takes a few more words to describe all of the ways that Sallie Mae, the nation's largest private student loan lender and proud member of ALEC, is condemning students to a lifetime of debt. Sallie Mae is supposed to be in the business of making education a reality. Instead the company profiteers off its student borrowers by granting risky loans with high interest rates. Last year, U.S. student debt hit $1 trillion ? meanwhile, Sallie Mae cleared $1 billion in profits. And then there's Sallie Mae?s latest scheme ? joining ALEC. Through its ALEC membership, Sallie Mae proposed legislation that limits public investment in higher education, which in turn makes college less affordable and forces students and families to take out more school loans.1 So we're launching a big campaign to push Sallie Mae to leave ALEC. Will you join us? Sign our petition now. For decades, ALEC has successfully ? albeit secretively ? pushed an extremist, right-wing, Big Business agenda by promoting copycat state legislation essentially written by corporations. ALEC finally attracted widespread public attention and criticism last year for advancing anti-democratic voter ID laws, anti-union right-to-work laws, and ? most famously ? pro-gun "stand your ground" laws. After public shaming from activists around the country, hundreds of corporations had the good sense to end their ties with ALEC. Despite these controversies ? Sallie Mae had the gall to join ALEC. Sallie Mae is throwing money at politicians to ensure the entire higher education system benefits its bottom line. We think Sallie Mae shouldn?t be in bed with ALEC. If you agree, sign our petition to urge them to leave the group today. It's no wonder that Sallie Mae is so emboldened. For too long, the company has effectively skirted regulation, ignored calls for transparency, and stayed out of the public's eye despite its major role in the student debt crisis. Too concerned with its bottom line, Sallie Mae thinks no one is watching them. And the lender would love to continue operating under the radar. But that's about to end. We're escalating our campaign to hold Sallie Mae accountable. We have journalists on their trail. We encouraged shareholders to push the company to be more transparent. We made a ruckus demonstrating at their annual meeting. And now, we're ready to create a PR nightmare for Sallie Mae. But we need you to join us. We're crashing ALEC's 40th annual meeting in Chicago next week and will be delivering our petition directly to Sallie Mae. Sign by August 6 so your name can be included! If you think what Sallie Mae is doing doesn't matter to you ? think again. Sallie Mae is a prime example of another corporation running our economy into the ground in pursuit of profits. Student debt is actively standing in the way of the economic recovery, and Sallie Mae is partially to blame. The company's lending practices have turned getting a college education into a drag on our economy. As student debt and student loan defaults escalate at an unsustainable pace, private student loan lenders like Sallie Mae strike it rich. Enough is enough. Take a key step in reigning in the largest private student loan lender. Sign our petition today. Thanks for all that you do, Chris, Student Debt Organizer Jobs with Justice/American Rights at Work 1 http://www.studentlabor.org/2013/07/29/alecs-legislative-agenda-on-higher-education This message was sent to pagesincolor at yahoo.com. To unsubscribe from Jobs with Justice/American Rights at Work action alerts, click here. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perrysandy at aol.com Tue Aug 6 12:25:11 2013 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN Message-ID: <8D060F1CD9B2242-21E0-35D4@webmail-d179.sysops.aol.com> Hi Everyone, FYI The Economic Justice Film series Showed "The House I Live In" last month and it was one of if not the best films we have shown yet. For those who missed it, it can be viewed for free on your computer at http://www.thehouseilivein.org/ It is a full-length documentary. It is impossible to advance the movement for economic justice without understanding the role of race and incarceration in blocking, dividing, and diverting us at every turn on every issue. Please do not miss this film. Sandy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leedobell at aol.com Tue Aug 6 13:21:41 2013 From: leedobell at aol.com (Leedobell) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 16:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Fw: Breaking News -- Feds to Study Fracking Risks in Calif. In-Reply-To: <1375483242.71441.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <2628307400.1835869459@org.orgDB.mail.democracyinaction.org> <1375483242.71441.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8D060F9B24FFDF7-F80-38D6@webmail-d231.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Yacoub To: sosfbay-discuss Sent: Fri, Aug 2, 2013 3:41 pm Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Breaking News -- Feds to Study Fracking Risks in Calif. ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Center for Biological Diversity To: carolineyacoub at att.net Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Breaking News -- Feds to Study Fracking Risks in Calif. Dear Caroline, Exciting news: The federal government announced today it will do a major analysis of fracking risks on California's public lands. This comes in response to a lawsuit from us and our allies, as well as an outpouring of opposition from Center for Biological Diversity activists and supporters, to the federal auction of about 2,500 acres in Monterey County to oil companies. These studies will be the first government assessment of the severe risks fracking poses to the Golden State. The announcement comes after an April federal court ruling that said the Bureau of Land Management had put our environment at risk by failing to consider fracking risks or prepare an impact statement before auctioning off the land. The new BLM plan not only calls for a new environmental impact study on fracking in central California -- it also orders an independent scientific assessment of the dangerous oil extraction process statewide. These reviews are likely to take more than a year -- and it's unlikely that further oil leasing and development can occur in the areas covered by the impact statement until it's completed. 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Box 710 Tucson, AZ 85702 1-866-357-3349 _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Aug 6 13:25:22 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 13:25:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN In-Reply-To: <8D060F1CD9B2242-21E0-35D4@webmail-d179.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D060F1CD9B2242-21E0-35D4@webmail-d179.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <52015BB2.60807@earthlink.net> There are several buttons (eight?) for choosing a source for viewing. The first 2 I tried cost $3.99 each. The others do not work for me for one reason or another. I went to my (Palo Alto) library catalog. They have one copy now, and one copy on order. I put a hold on it, I am 12th in line, so it will be awhile before I see it. It also seems to be available at the Sunnyvale Library. But there is a "DUE 08-27-13" which might mean they don't have it yet and expect to have it then. The Santa Clara County Library has 4 copies and 12 holds. The SCCL covers Campbell, Cupertino, Gilroy, Los Altos, Los Altos Hills, Milpitas, Monte Sereno, Morgan Hill, Saratoga, and All Unincorporated areas of Santa Clara County It appears to not be available at the San Jose Library. But maybe I made a mistake. And if it is not available, maybe it could be requested. I have been able to get 2 books into the Palo Alto Library by request. Based on the demand in Palo Alto and the County, San Jose should have a few. Gerry perrysandy at aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > FYI > The Economic Justice Film series Showed "The House I Live In" last month > and it was one of if not the best films we have shown yet. For those who > missed it, it can be viewed for free on your computer at > http://www.thehouseilivein.org/ It is a full-length documentary. > It is impossible to advance the movement for economic justice without > understanding the role of race and incarceration in blocking, dividing, > and diverting us at every turn on every issue. > Please do not miss this film. > Sandy > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From perrysandy at aol.com Tue Aug 6 15:05:34 2013 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN In-Reply-To: <52015BB2.60807@earthlink.net> References: <8D060F1CD9B2242-21E0-35D4@webmail-d179.sysops.aol.com> <52015BB2.60807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8D06108352AD2F7-210-382F@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> Sorry about that. When I tried it a couple of days ago it worked. It is still a great and important movie if you can find a way to access it. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Gerry Gras To: perrysandy ; sosfbay-discuss Sent: Tue, Aug 6, 2013 1:25 pm Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN There are several buttons (eight?) for choosing a source for viewing. The first 2 I tried cost $3.99 each. The others do not work for me for one reason or another. I went to my (Palo Alto) library catalog. They have one copy now, and one copy on order. I put a hold on it, I am 12th in line, so it will be awhile before I see it. It also seems to be available at the Sunnyvale Library. But there is a "DUE 08-27-13" which might mean they don't have it yet and expect to have it then. The Santa Clara County Library has 4 copies and 12 holds. The SCCL covers Campbell, Cupertino, Gilroy, Los Altos, Los Altos Hills, Milpitas, Monte Sereno, Morgan Hill, Saratoga, and All Unincorporated areas of Santa Clara County It appears to not be available at the San Jose Library. But maybe I made a mistake. And if it is not available, maybe it could be requested. I have been able to get 2 books into the Palo Alto Library by request. Based on the demand in Palo Alto and the County, San Jose should have a few. Gerry perrysandy at aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone, > FYI > The Economic Justice Film series Showed "The House I Live In" last month > and it was one of if not the best films we have shown yet. For those who > missed it, it can be viewed for free on your computer at > http://www.thehouseilivein.org/ It is a full-length documentary. > It is impossible to advance the movement for economic justice without > understanding the role of race and incarceration in blocking, dividing, > and diverting us at every turn on every issue. > Please do not miss this film. > Sandy > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Tue Aug 6 15:37:11 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 15:37:11 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN In-Reply-To: <8D06108352AD2F7-210-382F@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D060F1CD9B2242-21E0-35D4@webmail-d179.sysops.aol.com> <52015BB2.60807@earthlink.net> <8D06108352AD2F7-210-382F@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <52017A97.9040600@earthlink.net> It may well work for someone else given the right conditions. Gerry perrysandy at aol.com wrote: > Sorry about that. When I tried it a couple of days ago it worked. It is > still a great and important movie if you can find a way to access it. Sandy > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerry Gras > To: perrysandy ; sosfbay-discuss > > Sent: Tue, Aug 6, 2013 1:25 pm > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN > > > There are several buttons (eight?) for choosing a source > for viewing. The first 2 I tried cost $3.99 each. The > others do not work for me for one reason or another. > > I went to my (Palo Alto) library catalog. They have one > copy now, and one copy on order. I put a hold on it, I > am 12th in line, so it will be awhile before I see it. > > It also seems to be available at the Sunnyvale Library. > But there is a "DUE 08-27-13" which might mean they don't > have it yet and expect to have it then. > > The Santa Clara County Library has 4 copies and 12 holds. > The SCCL covers Campbell, Cupertino, Gilroy, > Los Altos, Los Altos Hills, Milpitas, Monte Sereno, > Morgan Hill, Saratoga, and > All Unincorporated areas of Santa Clara County > > It appears to not be available at the San Jose Library. > But maybe I made a mistake. And if it is not available, > maybe it could be requested. I have been able to get > 2 books into the Palo Alto Library by request. Based > on the demand in Palo Alto and the County, San Jose should > have a few. > > Gerry > > > > perrysandy at aol.com wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> FYI >> The Economic Justice Film series Showed "The House I Live In" last month >> and it was one of if not the best films we have shown yet. For those who >> missed it, it can be viewed for free on your computer at >>http://www.thehouseilivein.org/ It is a full-length documentary. >> It is impossible to advance the movement for economic justice without >> understanding the role of race and incarceration in blocking, dividing, >> and diverting us at every turn on every issue. >> Please do not miss this film. >> Sandy >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 21:11:50 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 21:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN In-Reply-To: <52017A97.9040600@earthlink.net> References: <8D060F1CD9B2242-21E0-35D4@webmail-d179.sysops.aol.com> <52015BB2.60807@earthlink.net> <8D06108352AD2F7-210-382F@Webmail-d113.sysops.aol.com> <52017A97.9040600@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1375848710.84778.YahooMailNeo@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> This movie is available on Netflix both DVD by mail and streaming.? I gave it a good review on www.peacemovies.com. John Thielking The House I Live In NR Documentary* (7-2-13)[7-2-13] Eugene Jarecki's documentary about the failed drug war is a powerful expose on America's war on drugs and the destructive effects that it has on our communities, particularly on communities of color. For instance, the same percentage of Black people use crack cocaine as White people do, yet 90% of people sentenced for crack cocaine possession and sale are Black. Some hopeful changes are occurring, such as the recent moves by Congress and Obama to reduce the disparity in sentencing between crack cocaine and powdered cocaine. Yet there is still so much more left to do. Five stars. This movie is a very rough Iffy because although it has only 23 violent scenes in 108 minutes and about half of those scenes are violent stories, the other half of the scenes are more violent than usually qualifies for the Iffy category. These scenes include: two stories of murder, 3 brief scenes of cops breaking into people's houses and making arrests, a story of an addict's death, footage of an explosion, a story about how rape cases are treated under Jim Crow laws, a story of a son dieing of AIDS, two mock depictions of sons murdering their mothers over marijuana, 3 other depictions of the aftermath of violence, brief footage of the Vietnam War, a story of a sister dieing in a car wreck, a mock depiction of shooting a prisoner, a story of the "chain of destruction", brief footage of cops being a bit rough during an arrest, 3 stories of violence in prison and other places with footage and a story of a father being murdered. There is some smoking in this movie. There were no previews when this movie was watched on Netflix streaming. ________________________________ From: Gerry Gras To: perrysandy at aol.com; GPSCC Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN It may well work for someone else given the right conditions. Gerry perrysandy at aol.com wrote: > Sorry about that. When I tried it a couple of days ago it worked. It is > still a great and important movie if you can find a way to access it. Sandy > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerry Gras > To: perrysandy ; sosfbay-discuss > > Sent: Tue, Aug 6, 2013 1:25 pm > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] THE HOUSE I LIVE IN > > > There are several buttons (eight?) for choosing a source > for viewing.? The first 2 I tried cost $3.99 each.? The > others do not work for me for one reason or another. > > I went to my (Palo Alto) library catalog.? They have one > copy now, and one copy on order.? I put a hold on it, I > am 12th in line, so it will be awhile before I see it. > > It also seems to be available at the Sunnyvale Library. > But there is a "DUE 08-27-13" which might mean they don't > have it yet and expect to have it then. > > The Santa Clara County Library has 4 copies and 12 holds. > The SCCL covers Campbell, Cupertino, Gilroy, >? ? ? Los Altos, Los Altos Hills, Milpitas, Monte Sereno, >? ? ? Morgan Hill, Saratoga, and >? ? ? All Unincorporated areas of Santa Clara County > > It appears to not be available at the San Jose Library. > But maybe I made a mistake.? And if it is not available, > maybe it could be requested.? I have been able to get > 2 books into the Palo Alto Library by request.? Based > on the demand in Palo Alto and the County, San Jose should > have a few. > > Gerry > > > > perrysandy at aol.com? ? wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> FYI >> The Economic Justice Film series Showed "The House I Live In" last month >> and it was one of if not the best films we have shown yet. For those who >> missed it, it can be viewed for free on your computer at >>http://www.thehouseilivein.org/ It is a full-length documentary. >> It is impossible to advance the movement for economic justice without >> understanding the role of race and incarceration in blocking, dividing, >> and diverting us at every turn on every issue. >> Please do not miss this film. >> Sandy >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >>sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org? >>http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Steve Danner, one of the 350 Silicon Valley members that I carpooled with up to Richmond with last Saturday, took some really nice photos at the 350.orgSummer Heat protest outside of the Chevron refinery, where an estimated 2,500 people gathered to hear speakers including the Mayor of Richmond (which just sued Chevron) and Bill McKibben of 350.orgtalk about climate change and the need to get us off of fossil fuels and move quickly to a renewable energy future. Steve has now put those photos into a self running video which he has now posted to YouTube at this link:? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6SAhXqRBQA&feature=youtu.be ? Some really nice perspectives and scenes that will give you a flavor of what it was like to be part of the 2.5 mile march from Richmond BART to the Chevron gates, where we were greeted by lots and lots of very polite Richmond police. I have to give kudos to the Richmond PD, which was very courteous to both regular attendees and also to the 209 arrestees (they used zip ties since they didn't have 200 pairs of handcuffs). ?: - ). ? When I had the pleasure to speak with Ellen Small, the 90 year old woman that was arrested with her grandson, she shared with us that after her arrest, the police quickly offered her a more comfortable place to sit (rather than just the ground) and they also offered her some cold water to drink.? She was impressed! If you want to send Steve your comments/questions on the YouTube video, please email him directly at: ?danner.steve at gmail.com Thanks for all you do! Brian H. 350SV Outreach Committee and 350SV No Tar Sands/Stop Keystone XL Committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This Little Girl's Words Will Take You To A Dark Place So We Can See The Light Intent Vs. Impact: Why Your Intentions Don?t Really Matter India?s Pink-Sari Vigiliantes Join Us Where We Live: 230 West 41st, 15th Floor New York, NY 10036 If you believe this has been sent to you in error, please safely unsubscribe. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Thu Aug 8 07:03:44 2013 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 07:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Torturing Animals with GMO Feed, 'Natural' GMO Chips? In-Reply-To: <2092899892.-2127740942@salsa3.salsa3DB.mail.salsalabs.com> References: <2092899892.-2127740942@salsa3.salsa3DB.mail.salsalabs.com> Message-ID: <1375970624.6447.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> If it's doing this to animals, it must be doing bad stuff to us, too? What's with the FDA? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Organic Consumers Association To: carolineyacoub at att.net Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 6:48 AM Subject: Torturing Animals with GMO Feed, 'Natural' GMO Chips? Organic Bytes #389: Torturing Animals with GMO Feed, "Natural" GMO Chips Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. Subscribe & Read Past Issues | OCA Homepage | Donate? ESSAY OF THE WEEK Are We Torturing Animals with Monsanto's GMO Feed? We associate food with, at most, pleasure, at the very least, survival. It?s not too different for animals. Lambs turned out on new grass move ?quickly over certain grasses to get to others ? to nosh on clover and mustard grass, avoiding horse nettle and fescue along the way,? writes Dan Barber in A Chef Speaks Out. Wild pigs, capable of seeking out the nutrients they need, ?enjoy eating nuts, roots, fruits, mushrooms, bugs, rabbits, and, occasionally, dead animals.? But what happens when animals are confined in cramped, filthy environments and force-fed monoculture diets of genetically modified corn and soy? A lot can happen. Calves are born too weak to walk, with enlarged joints and limb deformities. Piglets experience rapidly deteriorating health, a ?failure to thrive? so severe that they start breaking down their own tissues and organs ? self-cannibalizing ? to survive. Many animals suffer from weak, brittle bones that easily fracture. Dairy cows develop mastitis, a painful udder infection. Beef cattle develop liver abscesses and an excruciating condition referred to as ?twisted gut.? It all adds up to a lot of misery for the animals. And it doesn't bode well for humans, says the author of America's Two-Headed Pig. Read the essay ? ? ACTION ALERT Tell the FDA: GMOs Aren?t ?Natural?! Would you be shocked to learn that the corn in the ?all natural? tortilla chips you just bought had been genetically engineered to produce a toxin that ruptures the intestines of insects? Causing them to die quickly after ingesting the corn? Or that the corn in the ?100% natural? cereal flakes you just served your kids for breakfast had been saturated with far more glyphosate than any normal plant would be able to tolerate? Because the corn was engineered to resist Monsanto?s RoundUp herbicide? The Food & Drug Administration (FDA) says ?natural? means ?nothing artificial or synthetic ? has been included in, or has been added to, a food that would not normally be expected to be in the food.? So who would guess that food marketed as ?natural? contains the engineered genes of insecticide-producing and/or herbicide-resistant bacteria? So far the FDA has dodged the question of whether or not food companies are lying to customers when they say their product is ?natural? even though it contains genetically engineered ingredients. But with the courts facing a barrage of lawsuits from consumers furious that food companies have been allowed to hide GMOs in popular ?natural? brands, the FDA is being asked to weigh in. Given that the FDA?s Deputy Commissioner for Foods is none other than Monsanto?s former lawyer, Michael Taylor, whose side do you think the FDA will take? TAKE ACTION: Tell the FDA that GMOs Aren?t ?Natural?! ? ? ORGANIC RETAIL AND CONSUMER ALLIANCE Top Grocer Spotlight: Jimbo?s . . . Naturally! Fifteen years ago, Jimbo Someck, grocer and father, had one small organic store and one big mission: ?A piece of organic fruit in every child?s recycled lunch bag.? Today, Jimbo's . . . Naturally! is a thriving San Diego-based company with four locations, and a fifth in the works. The store and its owner have also become known as a champions of consumers? right to know about GMOs. Not only does the company educate consumers about the dangers of GMO ingredients, but it also works with manufacturers to find alternative ingredients. Those manufacturers who are willing to transition to GMO-free are rewarded with Jimbo?s continued business. Those who aren?t are shown the door. Last year, Jimbo?s contributed $10,000 to California?s Proposition 37 campaign to label GMOs. And even though the California-based company doesn?t operate any stores in Washington State, Jimbo?s has donated $10,000 to help pass I-522, a GMO labeling initiative on the ballot this November in Washington. For all these reasons and more, Jimbo?s earned a spot on the list of OCA?s Top ?Diligent Dozen? Right to Know Grocers. More about Jimbo?s . . . Naturally! More about the Right to Know Grocers Contest ? ? SUPPORT THE OCA & OCF Platitudes. If at first you don?t succeed. Patience is a virtue. The wheels of change grind slowly. Don?t give up the ship. We?ve heard them all. And so have you. There?s been no shortage of platitudes in our conversations around consumers? quest for GMO labeling laws. Last year this time all eyes, including yours and ours, were on California and Proposition 37, a citizens? initiative to label GMOs. A year later, with GMO labeling laws now on the books in Connecticut and Maine, all eyes are on Washington State?s I-522 Label GMOs initiative. We need more than platitudes. We need a win on the west coast to connect the dots with Maine and Connecticut. We need a law, one initiated by consumers, that doesn?t contain trigger clauses requiring three or four other states to pass GMO laws before it takes effect. We need to win in Washington State. And we need your help to do it. Because despite what they say ? that all things come to those who wait ? we know we can?t just sit back and wait. We have to work. And it?s your support that makes our work possible. Thank you! Donate to the Organic Consumers Association(tax-deductible, helps support our work on behalf of organic standards, fair trade and public education) Donate to the Organic Consumers Fund?(non-tax-deductible, but necessary for our legislative efforts in Washington, Vermont and other states) ? ? ORGANIC INDEX 8.8.13 GMO Seeds and the Global Market: Can You Say ?Monopoly?? One glance at the statistics and it?s clear: The U.S. and Monsanto dominate the global market for genetically engineered crops. Forty percent of the world?s genetically modified (GM) crops are grown in the U.S., where Monsanto controls 80 percent of the GM corn market, and 93 percent of the GM soy market. Worldwide, 282 million acres are planted in Monsanto?s GM crops, up from only 3 million in 1996, according to Food and Water Watch. Forty percent of U.S. cropland, or 151.4 million acres, are planted in Monsanto?s crops. Monsanto owns 1,676 seed, plant and other applicable patents. Maybe it?s time we ask ourselves: How long will we tolerate the growing monopolization and genetic engineering of seeds by a monopolistic pesticide company that poses a deadly threat to our health, our environment and the future of our food? More Facts on GMO Seeds and Monsanto ? ? VIDEO OF THE WEEK The Mother of All Trade Agreements. And Why You Should Care. The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). It?s not really about trade. It?s about creating a back door for corporations to get what they want. What do they want? Bigger profits. Lower food safety standards. Fewer rights and lower pay for workers. Fewer environmental regulations. Fast and loose financial regulations. Internet censorship. Did we mention bigger profits? Watch the video Learn more TAKE ACTION: Tell President Obama and U.S. Trade Rep. Michael Froman: Trade Agreements Shouldn't Be Secret! ? ? 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URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Sat Aug 10 08:35:45 2013 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: article on single payer strategy In-Reply-To: <1375153689.41953.YahooMailNeo@web121902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1375153689.41953.YahooMailNeo@web121902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1376148945.85732.YahooMailNeo@web185304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Lynne Penek-Holden To: Lynn Huidekoper ; hca ; Joan Simon ; jean embree hca ; Gina Maren ; "carolineyacoub at att.net" ; "gwhunt97 at comcast.net" Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:08 PM Subject: Fw: article on single payer strategy ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Patsnydr at aol.com" To: patsnydr at aol.com Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:28 AM Subject: article on single payer strategy Dear Friends The article below titled "Why California Can Lead the Way to Single Payer in the U.S.", written by Bill Zimmerman, a political consultant, is being distributed by the members of the AllCare Alliance.? It includes a link to the recent Public Citizen publication titled "A Roadmap to Single Payer." I am sending this to HCA's Leadership List, and I urge you to send it to your local lists. I feel sure you will find both articles very enlightening, and helpful as we work?to achieve a single payer system in California. Pat Snyder WHY CALIFORNIA CAN LEAD THE WAY TO SINGLE PAYER IN THE U.S. July 22, 2013 By Bill Zimmerman Recently Public Citizen, a member of California?s AllCare Alliance, released a report entitled, ?A Roadmap to Single-Payer: How States Can Escape the Clutches of the Private Health Insurance Industry.? ?We?re looking for a few pioneering states with the courage and fortitude to let common sense prevail over the insanity of our current patchwork system," said Lisa Gilbert, director of Public Citizen?s Congress Watch division.? ?Once they succeed, we expect most opposition to single-payer and our reliance on privately insured health care to become historical relics.? The report was welcomed by advocates working in state single-payer movements around the country. In some circles, however, it generated skepticism that single-payer could actually be accomplished at the state level due to the complexity of the waiver processes that states would have to navigate. The Public Citizen report lays out a long list of bureaucratic barriers that stand in the way, i.e. the need for states to obtain waivers to capture existing federal funding streams, yet in their view these are but policy hurdles. Policy can be changed through the political process, and it is in the political arena that the real decision will be made about whether or not state single-payer is viable. From a political perspective, as difficult as change at the state level might be to imagine, the thought of accomplishing single-payer in Washington, DC is even less credible.? There you would have to first overcome the current partisan polarization that precludes compromise, something that will simply not happen in the near future and is very difficult to imagine in any foreseeable future.? Even if such an illusive goal were achieved, health insurance companies and their allies would still be able to buy support in the form of campaign contributions and lobbying muscle, and not just from Republicans/conservatives, but as history has amply demonstrated, from many Democrats/liberals as well. The political environment in California, however, is more favorable. California is a solidly blue state with a large and increasingly influential immigrant population that would benefit greatly from universal health care.? Currently California has a Democratic governor and a legislature with a Democratic supermajority in both its houses. In fact, it has already twice passed a single payer bill ? the only state in the nation to do so (with deference to Vermont, which passed a "roadmap" to single payer in 2011).? To be sure, California has its share of "corporate" Democrats who would oppose single-payer, but voters here also have the option to bypass state government entirely and pass single payer through a ballot initiative instead. The states historically have been laboratories for testing new policies, and California has often been the leader, stimulating new progressive state and federal laws in a wide variety of policy areas.? Examples include auto emission standards, gun control legislation, disclosure of carcinogens, banning toxic fire retardants, medical use of marijuana and drug treatment instead of incarceration. Tipping points often play a role in politics.? Some issues look impossible until they become inevitable.? Gay marriage is the prime example, but so too are tobacco cessation, seatbelt use and marijuana legalization.? Soon climate change issues will have to join that list.? We all know there will be difficulties bringing ACA on line.? Those difficulties could be the impetus that forces a reconsideration of single-payer, and tips the balance in our favor.? In any case, it is hard to dispute the idea that political change can be more readily achieved in Sacramento than in Washington, DC, given the absence of comparable polarization and the greater potential impact of grassroots pressure. ? Passing single-payer in California could be the best avenue for achieving it nationally.? Gay rights advocates organized a well-coordinated state strategy on marriage equality that has led to a veritable domino effect of states rushing to extend civil rights. The Supreme Court considered the obvious change in public opinion and state law when they struck down the oppressive federal Defensive of Marriage Act last month.? A successful, if limited, single-payer system in California could easily have comparable cascading impacts across the nation and in Washington, DC. By the time California votes to move to a single payer system ? the earliest date possible is 2017 when the Affordable Care Act allows states to set up their own systems ? Congress will have gone through two more election cycles. Voters will be less white, and probably less conservative, and the changing composition of the House of Representatives may allow for passage of single-payer waiver legislation for states. California, Vermont and possibly other states moving to single-payer will put increasing pressure on Congress to grant other state waivers.? Once subject to such pressure, Congress could theoretically pass a federal bill to give (improved) Medicare to all, but it is politically far more likely that they will simply let the states set up their own systems, which can then become models for a larger federal program.? California, once again, could be the engine driving national change. Bill Zimmerman is president of Zimmerman & Markman, Inc., a political consulting firm based in Santa Monica.? He has led several dozen ballot initiative campaigns in California and across the nation, including landmark victories for physician-assisted suicide, mental health funding, drug treatment in lieu of incarceration, and medical marijuana.? He is the author of Troublemaker: A Memoir from the Front Lines of the Sixties." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Fred Duperrault, (fredlois2 at gmail.com or 650-691-1215) From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Wed Aug 14 15:58:06 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Gay Pride Event Follow Up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1376521086.54299.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> All, In the latest round of proposals for tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride event I have the following: Old news: John T and Spencer have suggested donating at total of $150 to the tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride event.? $150 would come out of the GP treasury, with $100 to be paid back by John Thielking at the next GP meeting. New news: Pete O' Reilly of the Peace and Freedom Party has volunteered to donate $50 towards the event. Suggestion: We either double down and come up with an additional $100 to $200 to do both days OR we negotiate with the? event organizers to table for just one day for either: $200 for one day with the booth setup being provided by the event organizers or $150 for one day where we bring our own table and canopy. What do you all think and who is going to e-mail the event organizers with our proposal? (I don't have their e-mail.) Thanks. Sincerely, John Thielking -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Wed Aug 14 16:20:17 2013 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:20:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Gay Pride Event Follow Up In-Reply-To: <1376521086.54299.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1376521086.54299.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <520C10B1.2070408@structuremonitoring.com> John, et al.: 1. Your revised proposal sounds fine to me. 2. Could you please verify with Drew about negotiating for a reduced rate? I'm not sure, but I think he has contact information and was planning to do that. Spencer On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, John Thielking wrote: > All, > > In the latest round of proposals for tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride > event I have the following: > > Old news: John T and Spencer have suggested donating at total of $150 > to the tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride event. $150 would come out > of the GP treasury, with $100 to be paid back by John Thielking at the > next GP meeting. > > New news: Pete O' Reilly of the Peace and Freedom Party has > volunteered to donate $50 towards the event. > > Suggestion: We either double down and come up with an additional $100 > to $200 to do both days OR we negotiate with the event organizers to > table for just one day for either: > > $200 for one day with the booth setup being provided by the event > organizers or > > $150 for one day where we bring our own table and canopy. > > What do you all think and who is going to e-mail the event organizers > with our proposal? (I don't have their e-mail.) 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Spencer On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, John Thielking wrote: All, > > >In the latest round of proposals for tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride event I have the following: > > >Old news: John T and Spencer have suggested donating at total of $150 to the tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride event.? $150 would come out of the GP treasury, with $100 to be paid back by John Thielking at the next GP meeting. > > > >New news: Pete O' Reilly of the Peace and Freedom Party has volunteered to donate $50 towards the event. > > >Suggestion: We either double down and come up with an additional $100 to $200 to do both days OR we negotiate with the? event organizers to table for just one day for either: > > >$200 for one day with the booth setup being provided by the event organizers or > > >$150 for one day where we bring our own table and canopy. > > > >What do you all think and who is going to e-mail the event organizers with our proposal? (I don't have their e-mail.) 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URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Thu Aug 15 11:45:39 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Drew: Re: Gay Pride Event Follow Up In-Reply-To: <1376537143.1393.YahooMailNeo@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1376592339.354.YahooMailBasic@web125401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> The best I can say and do for this moment is I left a message for the event= manager to get back to me for finalization, and they said they would try t= o get the loop closed done today. As I'd said previously I expect we are o= n, but will let people know otherwise. Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabine= t to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:=A0 http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests =A0 =A0 First TV Ad=A0http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/14/13, John Thielking wrote: Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Drew: Re: Gay Pride Event Follow Up To: "Spencer Graves" Cc: "GPSCC group" Date: Wednesday, August 14, 2013, 8:25 PM Drew, Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? Thanks. Sincerely, John Thielking From: Spencer Graves To: John Thielking Cc: fred Duperrault ; GPSCC group Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Gay Pride Event Follow Up John, et al.:? ????? 1.? Your revised proposal sounds fine to me.? ????? 2.? Could you please verify with Drew about negotiating for a reduced rate?? I'm not sure, but I think he has contact information and was planning to do that.? ???? Spencer On 8/14/2013 3:58 PM, John Thielking wrote: All, In the latest round of proposals for tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride event I have the following: Old news: John T and Spencer have suggested donating at total of $150 to the tabling at the San Jose Gay Pride event.? $150 would come out of the GP treasury, with $100 to be paid back by John Thielking at the next GP meeting. New news: Pete O' Reilly of the Peace and Freedom Party has volunteered to donate $50 towards the event. Suggestion: We either double down and come up with an additional $100 to $200 to do both days OR we negotiate with the? event organizers to table for just one day for either: $200 for one day with the booth setup being provided by the event organizers or $150 for one day where we bring our own table and canopy. What do you all think and who is going to e-mail the event organizers with our proposal? (I don't have their e-mail.) Thanks. Sincerely, John Thielking _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Aug 16 10:30:58 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Be Seen Being Green! New T-Shirts! Message-ID: <1376674258.32516.YahooMailBasic@web125402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd --- On Fri, 8/16/13, Green Party of the United States wrote: > From: Green Party of the United States > Subject: Be Seen Being Green! New T-Shirts! > To: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com > Date: Friday, August 16, 2013, 10:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New T-Shirt Design Available > Now? > The Green Party is happy to introduce a new > t-shirt for those who want to be seen being Green! Our new > t-shirt is a vibrant lime green with a graphic designed > especially for this item. The graphic says "Green Party > - Now. For the Future". The shirt is union-made and is > made of 100% preshunk heavyweight cotton. Click > here to order this new item.? > > > > We also have our classic Green Party shirt back > in stock. Now in a darker shade of green, this item has the > Green Party name and website proudly splashed across the > front in bright white. All sizes S-3XL are available. Click > here to order the updated edition of our classic item. > ? > > > > All of the items in our online store are > union-made in the USA, so you can know that the folks who > made these items were represented in their workplace. > Represent the Green Party with these fashonable, ethical > shirts! > > > > The Summer 2013 edition of Green Pages is also > available. This edition features a cover story on > whistleblowers Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden and > features several of our 2012 and 2013 candidates for office > around the county. Order > a bundle of 50 or 100 here.? > > > > Thanks > to Asher Platts, a young party leader with the > Maine Green Independent Party, for designing our new shirt. > Thanks also to Scotty, who modeled our new shirt > at our Annual National Meeting last month in Iowa > City. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PO Box 75075, Washington, DC 20013 | office at gp.org | 202-319-7191 > > > > Click > here to unsubscribe > > > > > > > From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Fri Aug 16 14:42:56 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride Message-ID: <1376689376.49405.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Good news (finally, sorry to keep people in suspense)! After hearing our concerns about the price tag they set a price and conditions for all political groups of $250 (ground space only), which comes much closer to what the Council was willing to do. So between the GPSCC and individual donors such as myself, John Thielking, Peter (last name?) of the Peace and Freedom Party we have the fee covered. I'll probably make the payment myself and report back what portion I need reimbursed. The event is 12-7 Saturday and Sunday (setup before 11:30) Please email me back if you're joining in for tabling. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Fri Aug 16 15:46:05 2013 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:46:05 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride In-Reply-To: <1376689376.49405.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1376689376.49405.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <520EABAD.1040400@structuremonitoring.com> On 8/16/2013 2:42 PM, Drew wrote: > > Good news (finally, sorry to keep people in suspense)! After hearing > our concerns about the price tag they set a price and conditions for > all political groups of $250 (ground space only), > Does that mean that we need to provide a table? We have a standard card table & chairs plus an 8 x 10 foot green canopy. Will you need these? If yes, how will we get them wherever they need to be by when? Spencer > which comes much closer to what the Council was willing to do. So > between the GPSCC and individual donors such as myself, John > Thielking, Peter (last name?) of the Peace and Freedom Party we have > the fee covered. I'll probably make the payment myself and report back > what portion I need reimbursed. > > The event is 12-7 Saturday and Sunday (setup before 11:30) Please > email me back if you're joining in for tabling. > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Fri Aug 16 18:50:50 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride In-Reply-To: <520EABAD.1040400@structuremonitoring.com> References: <1376689376.49405.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <520EABAD.1040400@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: <1376704250.62795.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I have a 30"x60" table that folds in half. You would need to pick it up from my house. John Thielking ________________________________ From: Spencer Graves To: Drew Cc: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens org" Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] SJ Pride On 8/16/2013 2:42 PM, Drew wrote: Good news (finally, sorry to keep people in suspense)! After hearing our concerns about the price tag they set a price and conditions for all political groups of $250 (ground space only), ????? Does that mean that we need to provide a table?? We have a standard card table & chairs plus an 8 x 10 foot green canopy.? Will you need these?? If yes, how will we get them wherever they need to be by when?? ????? Spencer which comes much closer to what the Council was willing to do. So between the GPSCC and individual donors such as myself, John Thielking, Peter (last name?) of the Peace and Freedom Party we have the fee covered. I'll probably make the payment myself and report back what portion I need reimbursed. >The event is 12-7 Saturday and Sunday (setup before 11:30) Please email me back if you're joining in for tabling. >Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > >_______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So between the GPSCC and individual donors such as myself, John Thielking, Peter (last name?) of the Peace and Freedom Party we have the fee covered. I'll probably make the payment myself and report back what portion I need reimbursed. The event is 12-7 Saturday and Sunday (setup before 11:30) Please email me back if you're joining in for tabling. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Sat Aug 17 14:06:40 2013 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:06:40 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <520FE5E0.2010608@aceweb.com> This guy would be glad to coordinate getting his candidate for Governor of California to our county to speak to a meeting and raise some awareness about his campaign. Seems like we ought to host him or invite him to the GPSCC meeting or something. I think he is LA bases, but willing to come up here for us. Tian -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:33:06 -0700 From: Edy Alvarez Reply-To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group As many would PRESUMABLY know, the Green Party operates on a very limited budget, and as someone who spearheaded the Jill Stein California Campus Tour, even I had difficulty maintaining constant contact with the JS campaign. I would hope that Greens understand that it is extremely difficult to hire part-time or full-time staff for a national campaign and that maintaining constant communication with the voluminous amounts of inquiries that come into a campaign becomes a monumental task. Regardless, I am asking ALL Greens around the state to rally behind the candidacy of Luis Rodriguez in the hopes that we can bring in hundreds of thousands of new voters into the Green Party, especially all those tens of thousands of Latinos that are turning eighteen everyday. I need people to think BEYOND the normal parameters of what it means to be a Green and run as a Green. We need everyone to become involved! Your friend, Edy Alvarez 818-336-2834 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:23:06 -0700 From: moorman.jesse at gmail.com To: floresrmagon at hotmail.com; gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorial candidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse Here's the message I sent to Jill Stein on September 11, 2012: Cheri was interviewed on KPFK here in Los Angeles tonight. She was really, really bad. Remember Sarah Palin? Cheri was less prepared than Palin when McCain introduced her. Can someone give her a crash course on the issues and on the Green Party's platform and values? I never heard Honkala interviewed again, and I never heard about another interview, but maybe she was great the next time. Another thing that bothered me deeply about the Stein campaign was that I never could get a response from anybody about anything I told them. One exception - I volunteered something and did not hear for weeks, so I had second thoughts and canceled the offer, and then after about 2 months someone contacted me, not knowing that I had canceled it. 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It would be terrific if we could get him up here AND, if we have a date, and it's AFTER Sept 6, we could hand out flyers announcing his candidacy and his appearance here at the Seven Trees event. Woo Hoo! Caroline From: Tian Harter To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:06 PM Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse This guy would be glad to coordinate getting his candidate for Governor of California to our county to speak to a meeting and raise some awareness about his campaign. Seems like we ought to hosthim or invite him to the GPSCC meeting or something. I think he is LA bases, but willing to come up herefor us.Tian-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:33:06 -0700 From: Edy Alvarez mailto:valleycollegegreens at msn.com Reply-To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org As many?would PRESUMABLY know, the Green Party?operates on a?very limited budget, and as someone who spearheaded the?Jill Stein California Campus Tour, even I had difficulty maintaining constant contact with the JS?campaign. ?I would hope that Greens understand that it is extremely difficult to hire part-time or full-time staff for a national campaign and that maintaining constant communication with the voluminous amounts of inquiries that come into a campaign becomes a monumental task.?Regardless, I am asking ALL Greens around the state to rally behind the candidacy of?Luis Rodriguez in the hopes that we can bring in hundreds of thousands of new voters into the Green Party, especially all those tens of thousands of Latinos that are turning eighteen everyday. I need people to think BEYOND the normal parameters of what it means to be a Green and run as a Green. We need everyone to become involved!?Your friend,Edy Alvarez818-336-2834? Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:23:06 -0700From: moorman.jesse at gmail.comTo: floresrmagon at hotmail.com; gpca-ccwg at cagreens.orgSubject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorial candidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse Here's the message I sent to Jill Stein on September 11, 2012: Cheri was interviewed on KPFK here in Los Angeles tonight. She was >really, really bad. Remember Sarah Palin? Cheri was less prepared than >Palin when McCain introduced her. Can someone give her a crash >course on the issues and on the Green Party's platform and values? > I never heard Honkala interviewed again, and I never heard about another interview, but maybe she was great the next time.Another thing that bothered me deeply about the Stein campaign was that I never could get a response from anybody about anything I told them. One exception - I volunteered something and did not hear for weeks, so I had second thoughts and canceled the offer, and then after about 2 months someone contacted me, not knowing that I had canceled it. Jesse_______________________________________________ gpca-ccwg mailing list gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg_______________________________________________sosfbay-discuss mailing listsosfbay-discuss at cagreens.orghttp://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Aug 17 20:30:07 2013 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 20:30:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page In-Reply-To: <1376794578.63325.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <201308180015.r7I0F0SS005098@mail.ucla.edu> <1376794578.63325.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52103FBF.60509@prodsyse.com> Hi, All: What can you tell us about the Facebook page for the Green Party of Santa Clara County (www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782 )? SANDY: Could you please add to the agenda for next Thursday a 5-minute discussion of what is known about who manages this and what if anything the Santa Clara Greens should do to manage this more aggressively? Thanks, Spencer On 8/17/2013 7:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Any of you guys have anything to do with "our" Facebook page? I just > went there, and there are pictures of a bunch of people I have never > seen before and a bunch of postings from Marni Glickman. WTH? > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* shane que hee > *To:* > *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:15 PM > *Subject:* Complete List of County Green Parties in California > >> From: Edy Alvarez >> >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:40:41 -0700 >> >> Subject: Complete List of County Green Parties in California >> >> >> Here's an updated list of all Green Party County pages on Facebook. >> Please share this list with all your local Green contacts. >> >> You can also find this list here: >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/8071416222/doc/10150967563946223/ >> >> THE FULL LIST OF COUNTY GREEN PARTIES IN CALIFORNIA (Alphabetical Order) >> >> All Links tested by Edy Alvarez, August 10th 2013 >> >> Alameda County Green Party >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/230759976959962/ >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Alameda-County/160407803980749 >> >> >> Alpine County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/145004038922189/ >> >> Amador County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/127385154026563/ >> >> Butte County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/195676377166387/ >> >> Calaveras County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/169980176411777/ >> >> Colusa County Green Party () >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/209736355746122/ >> >> Contra Costa County Green Party () >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/106700482767736/ >> https://www.facebook.com/ContraCostaCountyGreenty >> >> Del Norte County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/144718528951730/ >> >> El Dorado County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/202153486516039/ >> >> Fresno County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/103135306459280/ >> >> Glenn County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/258489890840696/ >> >> Humboldt County Green Party () >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/103152449791544/ >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Green-Party-of-Humboldt-County/65275514232 >> >> >> Imperial County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/153900684695792/ >> >> Inyo County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/132965866799838/ >> >> Kern County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/207727212620817/ >> >> Kings County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/234350396611179/ >> >> Lake County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/118801344887472/ >> >> Lassen County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/275915509100765/ >> >> Los Angeles County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/114542358579795/ >> https://www.facebook.com/gplac >> >> Madera County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/163384847075038/ >> >> Marin County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54809224639 >> >> Mariposa County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/254876427877335/ >> >> Mendocino County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/240657382618654/ >> >> Merced County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/239570786147350/ >> >> Modoc County Green Party () >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/230564580390759/ >> >> Mono County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/169716649771707/ >> >> Monterey County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/205135566199820/ >> >> Napa County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/napacountygreenparty/ >> >> Nevada County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/279482882067262/ >> >> Orange County Green Party >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/2245541603/ >> >> Placer County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/214560088600554/ >> >> Plumas County Green Party () >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/292912340803863/ >> >> Riverside County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/202177146511436/ >> >> Sacramento County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/7568251226/ >> https://www.facebook.com/sacgreenparty >> >> San Benito County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/217345664990475/ >> >> San Bernardino County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/242175435823880/ >> >> San Diego County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/98995984750/ >> >> San Francisco County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/SFGreenParty/ >> >> San Joaquin County Green Party >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/227914693927714/ >> >> San Luis Obispo County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/SLOgreens/ >> >> San Mateo County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/285241844826106/ >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-San-Mateo-County/158759390819459 >> >> >> Santa Barbara County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/217501251618516/ >> >> Santa Clara County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782/ >> Santa Cruz County Green Party >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/153400231407659/ >> https://www.facebook.com/gpsccc >> Shasta County Green Party >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/273715409306282/ >> >> Sierra County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/135089053253535/ >> >> Siskiyou County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/268519126509308/ >> >> Solano County Green Party () >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/solanocountygreenparty/ >> >> Sonoma County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/123071604456207/ >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Sonoma-County/409788132410926 >> >> >> Stanislaus County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/155399244544446/ >> >> Sutter County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/169844223092193/ >> >> Tehama County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/277510918942290/ >> >> Trinity County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/246407662065345/ >> >> Tulare County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/265199503498830/ >> >> Tuolumne County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/185916618146693/ >> >> Ventura County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/189149047822748/ >> >> Yolo County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/242407815802209/ >> >> Yuba County Green Party >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/270657406279636/ > > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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Never heard back and hadn't followed up yet. ------------- Edy replied to me directly (not on the GROW list): "Marnie Glickman, HIRED by the state party, set up these facebook pages for county chapters a while back. Regardless of the background of why these FB pages were set up, they are here now and all Greens should plug themselves into their local county chapter and really make their county chapters thrive. I'm sure Marnie Glickman would be more than happy to have people join their respective FB county chapter. She's NOT in charge of the pages, but she remained an admin on these pages but if we can transition from her being sole admin on certain pages to transferrring responsibility to local Greens I think that would be great! ;) Let's get with the program and have all Greens join their respective county pages! Your Green Friend Trying To Grow The Green Party, Edy Alvarez" ------------- Barry Hermanson replied on the GROW list: "Edy, I appreciate the time you took to create this list.? Thank you.? Unfortunately, some of our members do not use Facebook.? GPCA has a link to a list of active counties on the cagreens.org home page.? It takes you to:? http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties.? I assume that every county listed with contact information is active..." -------- I then replied to the GROW list: "The Ten Key Values of the Green Party includes DECENTRALIZATION.? No one central person be it MF or MG should have admin rights over all "our" FB pages.? That is extremely ungreen.? The Santa Clara Green Party Council requires that the state party give us exclusive rights over "our" FB page or we will have to follow through with a previous inquiry to FB to have them given to us." Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ?? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 8/17/13, Spencer Graves wrote: Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page To: "GPSCC" , "Sandy Perry" Date: Saturday, August 17, 2013, 8:30 PM ??? ? ??? ??? ??? ? ???Hi, All:? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???????? What can you tell us about the Facebook page for the Green ? ? ???Party of Santa Clara County (www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782)?? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???SANDY:? Could you please add to the agenda for next Thursday a ? ? ???5-minute discussion of what is known about who manages this and ? ? ???what if anything the Santa Clara Greens should do to manage this ? ? ???more aggressively?? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???????? Thanks, ? ? ???????? Spencer ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???On 8/17/2013 7:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: ? ??? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ???Any of you ? ? ? ? ? ???guys have anything to do with "our" Facebook page? I just ? ? ? ? ? ???went there, and there are pictures of a bunch of people I ? ? ? ? ? ???have never seen before and a bunch of postings from Marni ? ? ? ? ? ???Glickman. WTH? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ???----- Forwarded Message ----- ? ? ? ? ? ? ???From: shane que hee ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???To: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sent: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:15 PM ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Complete List of County Green Parties in California ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???From: Edy Alvarez ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:40:41 -0700 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Subject: Complete List of County Green Parties in ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???California ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Here's an updated list of all Green Party County ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???pages on Facebook. Please share this list with all ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???your local Green contacts. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???You can also find this list here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/8071416222/doc/10150967563946223/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???THE FULL LIST OF COUNTY GREEN PARTIES IN CALIFORNIA ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???(Alphabetical Order) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???All Links tested by Edy Alvarez, August 10th 2013 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Alameda County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/230759976959962/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Alameda-County/160407803980749 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Alpine County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/145004038922189/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Amador County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/127385154026563/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Butte County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/195676377166387/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Calaveras County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/169980176411777/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Colusa County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/209736355746122/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Contra Costa County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/106700482767736/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/ContraCostaCountyGreenty ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Del Norte County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/144718528951730/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???El Dorado County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/202153486516039/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Fresno County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/103135306459280/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Glenn County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/258489890840696/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Humboldt County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/103152449791544/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Green-Party-of-Humboldt-County/65275514232 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Imperial County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/153900684695792/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Inyo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/132965866799838/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Kern County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/207727212620817/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Kings County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/234350396611179/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Lake County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/118801344887472/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Lassen County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/275915509100765/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Los Angeles County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/114542358579795/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/gplac ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Madera County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/163384847075038/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Marin County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54809224639 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Mariposa County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/254876427877335/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Mendocino County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/240657382618654/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Merced County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/239570786147350/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Modoc County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/230564580390759/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Mono County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/169716649771707/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Monterey County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/205135566199820/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Napa County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/napacountygreenparty/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Nevada County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/279482882067262/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Orange County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/2245541603/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Placer County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/214560088600554/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Plumas County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/292912340803863/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Riverside County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/202177146511436/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sacramento County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/7568251226/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/sacgreenparty ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Benito County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/217345664990475/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Bernardino County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/242175435823880/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Diego County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/98995984750/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Francisco County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/SFGreenParty/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Joaquin County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/227914693927714/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Luis Obispo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/SLOgreens/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Mateo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/285241844826106/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-San-Mateo-County/158759390819459 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Santa Barbara County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/217501251618516/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Santa Clara County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Santa Cruz County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/153400231407659/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/gpsccc ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Shasta County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/273715409306282/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sierra County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/135089053253535/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Siskiyou County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/268519126509308/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Solano County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/solanocountygreenparty/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sonoma County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/123071604456207/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Sonoma-County/409788132410926 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Stanislaus County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/155399244544446/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sutter County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/169844223092193/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Tehama County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/277510918942290/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Trinity County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/246407662065345/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Tulare County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/265199503498830/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Tuolumne County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/185916618146693/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Ventura County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/189149047822748/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Yolo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/242407815802209/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Yuba County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/270657406279636/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ??? ? ??? ? ??? ? ???-- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph:? 408-655-4567 web:? www.structuremonitoring.com ??? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Sun Aug 18 02:03:50 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Luis Rodriguez: "A Year of Gang Peace in El Salvador" Message-ID: <1376816630.58460.YahooMailNeo@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> This was forwarded by Edy Alvarez.? Luis Rodriguez is running for Green Party of CA's nomination for Governor of California.? Previously in 2012 he was the Justice Party's VP nominee (Rocky Anderson being the Pres. nominee).? Laura Wells (previous GPCA nominee for Governor and currently running for our nomination as CA state Controller) has written favorably towards his candidacy: A Year of Gang Peace in El Salvador," by Luis Rodriguez. ? "This past July, I took part in an 11-member delegation from the Transnational Advisory Group in Support of the Peace Process in El Salvador (TAGSPPES) to assess the situation on the ground, and advise and assist where possible. The delegation included human rights advocates, a psychologist, researchers, and leaders in U.S. gang prevention and intervention programs from New York City, Los Angeles, the San Francisco Bay Area, the Washington D.C. area, and London?Chicano, white, African American, Puerto Rican, and Salvadoran." ? http://luisjrodriguez.com/blog/2013/03/truce-or-consequences-%E2%80%93-a-year-of-gang-peace-in-el-salvador.html ? For two decades El Salvador has been one of the most violent countries in the world, due to intense warfare between its two biggest street gangs?Mara Salvatrucha 13 (MS-13) and 18thStreet (Barrio 18). The leading cause was the mass deportation of gang youth beginning in 1992 from the streets of Los Angeles, many of whom did not speak Spanish and had little or no families in the country. Since then the official response has been repression?more police and prisons. They?ve included anti-gang policies known as Mano Dura (Firm Hand) and Super Mano Dura. With billions of dollars invested into these policies, including from the United States, the gangs became larger, better organized, and more violent?recruiting from the thousands of homeless, abandoned and war-ravaged youth and children throughout the country. ? However, something phenomenal emerged a year ago on March 9 when members from among MS-13 and Barrio 18 forged a peace in one of the country?s largest prisons, spreading to other prisons and the streets. Facilitated by Catholic Monsignor Fabio Colindres as well as former congressman and former guerilla Raul Mijango, gang leaders agreed to end recruitment near schools and to turn in rifles and other weapons to the Organization of American States (OAS) representatives. Most recently they?ve enacted ?peace zones? where gangs would not commit crimes or violence. ? In a year?s time the peace decreased violence in El Salvador from 40 to 60 percent; by December homicides went from 14 per day until five per day, according to the Center for Democracy in the Americas. The gang leaders did what no repressive plan could do?bring a badly needed respite to a country that has been in some kind of war, including a 12-year civil war, for more than thirty years. ? Yet the U.S. government?s Treasury Department in the fall declared MS-13 to be an international criminal enterprise, subject to the seizure of property and assets. And on January 23, 2013, the State Department issued a travel warning to U.S. citizens that placed El Salvador on the same level of security concerns as Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Honduras, and Mexico. These actions indicate a dangerous disconnect between what is possible for public safety and our government?s response. ? This past July, I took part in an 11-member delegation from the Transnational Advisory Group in Support of the Peace Process in El Salvador (TAGSPPES) to assess the situation on the ground, and advise and assist where possible. The delegation included human rights advocates, a psychologist, researchers, and leaders in U.S. gang prevention and intervention programs from New York City, Los Angeles, the San Francisco Bay Area, the Washington D.C. area, and London?Chicano, white, African American, Puerto Rican, and Salvadoran. ? We talked to government officials in the departments of health, education, and public safety including heads of the country?s prison system. We visited factories that hired gang members as well as schools, nongovernmental agencies, indigenous communities, and six prisons and a juvenile lockup. Tattooed-faced men and women greeted us from behind razor wire as we were able to see firsthand the miserable conditions they lived under, including in facilities housing women and their children, also locked up in worn cellblocks, often without running water or electricity, in overcrowded cells and lacking decent food and medical attention. They told us that they were not ?lost causes? or ?without hope.? Many had children of their own?they didn?t want them enmeshed in the same level of violence they grew up with and in many cases participated in. ? In September of 2012, TAGSPPES issued a report of our trip that concluded ?all stakeholders must take part in a broader peace building process.? In other words, the gang peace must not just benefit gang members, but the whole of society, including establishing the necessary structural changes for real jobs, education, trauma treatment, housing, and humane prison conditions. ? Due to our efforts, clean potable water is being directed to many prisons. And books are being brought in to start libraries in these institutions with the support of people like musician and activist John Densmore, formerly of the Doors. The peace building process will entail the backing of the international community as well as businesses, law enforcement, and the general population. Many in the present Salvadoran government agree, including Minister of Security David Munguia Payes and President Mauricio Funes, both of whom have challenged the official U.S. position. ? For peace to last, it?s evident this will also require the backing of the U.S. government. The United States does a major disservice by placing its resources and energies at odds with the immense possibilities brought to the table by gang leaders themselves, who are tired of the violence and now want to contribute positively to the development of their lives and their country. ? It?s been proven that the single best path towards peace is when gang leaders turn their lives around, when they commit to raising families, when they dedicate themselves to working and educating themselves; and when they become the leading agents for making peace viable for all. Here?s an idea that now needs traction, something I have seen in my forty years of doing gang peace work in the United States and other countries: Sometimes from the most violent can come the most peaceful. ? Give gang leaders a chance to make their own peace. ? Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com Sun Aug 18 02:34:21 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com (Drew) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] GPCA Nomination races for state executive officies In-Reply-To: <5210159D.6060005@prodsyse.com> References: <520FE5E0.2010608@aceweb.com> <1376780780.13689.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <5210159D.6060005@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: <1376818461.78029.YahooMailNeo@web125406.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I provided a long post on this previously.Here's another one. The info is from the web site http://ballotopedia.org since I didn't see it on the Sec of State's web site (technically the Declaration of Candidacy Period is Feb 10-Mar 7 2014) or the GPCA site. Governor: Luis Rodriguez (b. 1954) is a Green Party candidate for Governor of California in the 2014 elections. http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Luis_Rodriguez Lt. Gov: (no Greens) Atty Gen: (no Greens) Sec. of State: David Scott Curtis (b. August 21, 1964 Las Vegas, NV) is a Green Party candidate for California Secretary of State in the 2014 election.[1] He was previously the 2010 Green Party candidate for Governor of Nevada. http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/David_Scott_Curtis Treasurer: (no Greens) Controller: Laura Wells (born January 2, 1948) was a Green Party candidate for the 2010 Governor?s race in the State of California. Wells is a former financial and business analyst, and political activist in Oakland California. She supports making significant changes to Proposition 13 and to the current super-majority voting rule in the Sacramento legislature. In 2002 she garnered nearly a half million votes in her run for California State Controller. [1] http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Laura_Wells Superintendent of public instruction: (no Greens) Commissioner of insurance: (no Greens) ------- Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >________________________________ > From: Spencer Graves >To: Caroline Yacoub >Cc: "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" ; Betsy Wolf-Graves ; Jim Doyle ; Drew ; John Thielking ; Sandy Perry ; tian harter >Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:30 PM >Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse > > > >Hello, All:? > > >SANDY:? Would you please put this on the agenda for next Thursday?? > > >ALL:? Any thoughts on doing anything to move this agenda item earlier?? Also, who are the other active Green candidates at the moment?? Marnie Glickman is running for a local office in Marin County (a special election, I think, but I'm not sure).? Laura Wells is running for Controller (http://laurawellssolutions.com).? > > >????? Spencer >???? > >On 8/17/2013 4:06 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > >Wow! It would be terrific if we could get him up here AND, if we have a date, and it's AFTER Sept 6, we could hand out flyers announcing his candidacy and his appearance here at the Seven Trees event. Woo Hoo! >>Caroline >> >> >>From: Tian Harter >>To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >>Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:06 PM >>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse >> >> >>This guy would be glad to coordinate getting his candidate for Governor of California to our county to speak to a meeting and raise some awareness about his campaign. Seems like we ought to host him or invite him to the GPSCC meeting or something. I think he is LA bases, but willing to come up here for us. Tian -------- Original Message -------- >>Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse >>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:33:06 -0700 >>From: Edy Alvarez mailto:valleycollegegreens at msn.com >>Reply-To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org >>To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org >>As many?would PRESUMABLY know, the Green Party?operates on a?very limited budget, and as someone who spearheaded the?Jill Stein California Campus Tour, even I had difficulty maintaining constant contact with the JS?campaign. ? I would hope that Greens understand that it is extremely difficult to hire part-time or full-time staff for a national campaign and that maintaining constant communication with the voluminous amounts of inquiries that come into a campaign becomes a monumental task. ? Regardless, I am asking ALL Greens around the state to rally behind the candidacy of?Luis Rodriguez in the hopes that we can bring in hundreds of thousands of new voters into the Green Party, especially all those tens of thousands of Latinos that are turning eighteen everyday. I need people to think BEYOND the normal parameters of what it means to be a Green and run as a Green. We need everyone to become involved! ? Your friend, Edy Alvarez 818-336-2834 ? >>Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:23:06 -0700 From: moorman.jesse at gmail.com To: floresrmagon at hotmail.com; gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorial candidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse >>Here's the message I sent to Jill Stein on September 11, 2012: >>Cheri was interviewed on KPFK here in Los Angeles tonight. She was >>>really, really bad. Remember Sarah Palin? Cheri was less prepared than >>>Palin when McCain introduced her. Can someone give her a crash >>>course on the issues and on the Green Party's platform and values? >>> >>I never heard Honkala interviewed again, and I never heard about another interview, but maybe she was great the next time. Another thing that bothered me deeply about the Stein campaign was that I never could get a response from anybody about anything I told them. One exception - I volunteered something and did not hear for weeks, so I had second thoughts and canceled the offer, and then after about 2 months someone contacted me, not knowing that I had canceled it. >>Jesse _______________________________________________ gpca-ccwg mailing list gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing listsosfbay-discuss at cagreens.orghttp://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >>_______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > >-- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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John Thielking ________________________________ From: Drew To: Spencer Graves ; GPSCC ; Sandy Perry Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page What I wrote in reply on the GROW list to Edy Alvarez who'd posted it: "that's a bogus fb group for Santa Clara. like most all of them it wasn't set up by us or in any way in conjunction with us. We are not even on it. We should be given control of it." BTW, previously I went so far as to write to FB to try to get Admin rights to "our" page.? Never heard back and hadn't followed up yet. ------------- Edy replied to me directly (not on the GROW list): "Marnie Glickman, HIRED by the state party, set up these facebook pages for county chapters a while back. Regardless of the background of why these FB pages were set up, they are here now and all Greens should plug themselves into their local county chapter and really make their county chapters thrive. I'm sure Marnie Glickman would be more than happy to have people join their respective FB county chapter. She's NOT in charge of the pages, but she remained an admin on these pages but if we can transition from her being sole admin on certain pages to transferrring responsibility to local Greens I think that would be great! ;) Let's get with the program and have all Greens join their respective county pages! Your Green Friend Trying To Grow The Green Party, Edy Alvarez" ------------- Barry Hermanson replied on the GROW list: "Edy, I appreciate the time you took to create this list.? Thank you.? Unfortunately, some of our members do not use Facebook.? GPCA has a link to a list of active counties on the cagreens.org home page.? It takes you to:? http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties.? I assume that every county listed with contact information is active..." -------- I then replied to the GROW list: "The Ten Key Values of the Green Party includes DECENTRALIZATION.? No one central person be it MF or MG should have admin rights over all "our" FB pages.? That is extremely ungreen.? The Santa Clara Green Party Council requires that the state party give us exclusive rights over "our" FB page or we will have to follow through with a previous inquiry to FB to have them given to us." Green is GO! Drew ~*~*~*~ Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America http://greenshadowcabinet.us Dr. Stein's Campaign website:? http://www.jillstein.org/ Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests ? ?? First TV Ad?http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 8/17/13, Spencer Graves wrote: Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page To: "GPSCC" , "Sandy Perry" Date: Saturday, August 17, 2013, 8:30 PM ??? ? ??? ??? ??? ? ???Hi, All:? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???????? What can you tell us about the Facebook page for the Green ? ? ???Party of Santa Clara County (www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782)?? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???SANDY:? Could you please add to the agenda for next Thursday a ? ? ???5-minute discussion of what is known about who manages this and ? ? ???what if anything the Santa Clara Greens should do to manage this ? ? ???more aggressively?? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???????? Thanks, ? ? ???????? Spencer ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ???On 8/17/2013 7:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: ? ??? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ???Any of you ? ? ? ? ? ???guys have anything to do with "our" Facebook page? I just ? ? ? ? ? ???went there, and there are pictures of a bunch of people I ? ? ? ? ? ???have never seen before and a bunch of postings from Marni ? ? ? ? ? ???Glickman. WTH? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ???----- Forwarded Message ----- ? ? ? ? ? ? ???From: shane que hee ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???To: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sent: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:15 PM ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Subject: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Complete List of County Green Parties in California ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???From: Edy Alvarez ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:40:41 -0700 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Subject: Complete List of County Green Parties in ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???California ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Here's an updated list of all Green Party County ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???pages on Facebook. Please share this list with all ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???your local Green contacts. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???You can also find this list here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/8071416222/doc/10150967563946223/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???THE FULL LIST OF COUNTY GREEN PARTIES IN CALIFORNIA ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???(Alphabetical Order) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???All Links tested by Edy Alvarez, August 10th 2013 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Alameda County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/230759976959962/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Alameda-County/160407803980749 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Alpine County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/145004038922189/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Amador County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/127385154026563/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Butte County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/195676377166387/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Calaveras County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/169980176411777/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Colusa County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/209736355746122/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Contra Costa County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/106700482767736/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/ContraCostaCountyGreenty ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Del Norte County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/144718528951730/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???El Dorado County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/202153486516039/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Fresno County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/103135306459280/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Glenn County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/258489890840696/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Humboldt County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/103152449791544/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Green-Party-of-Humboldt-County/65275514232 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Imperial County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/153900684695792/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Inyo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/132965866799838/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Kern County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/207727212620817/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Kings County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/234350396611179/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Lake County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/118801344887472/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Lassen County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/275915509100765/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Los Angeles County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/114542358579795/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/gplac ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Madera County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/163384847075038/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Marin County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54809224639 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Mariposa County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/254876427877335/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Mendocino County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/240657382618654/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Merced County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/239570786147350/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Modoc County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/230564580390759/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Mono County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/169716649771707/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Monterey County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/205135566199820/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Napa County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/napacountygreenparty/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Nevada County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/279482882067262/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Orange County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/2245541603/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Placer County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/214560088600554/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Plumas County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/292912340803863/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Riverside County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/202177146511436/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sacramento County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/7568251226/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/sacgreenparty ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Benito County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/217345664990475/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Bernardino County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/242175435823880/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Diego County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/98995984750/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Francisco County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/SFGreenParty/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Joaquin County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/227914693927714/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Luis Obispo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/SLOgreens/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???San Mateo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/285241844826106/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-San-Mateo-County/158759390819459 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Santa Barbara County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/217501251618516/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Santa Clara County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Santa Cruz County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/153400231407659/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/gpsccc ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Shasta County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/273715409306282/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sierra County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/135089053253535/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Siskiyou County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/268519126509308/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Solano County Green Party () ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/groups/solanocountygreenparty/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sonoma County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/123071604456207/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Sonoma-County/409788132410926 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Stanislaus County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/155399244544446/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Sutter County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/169844223092193/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Tehama County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/277510918942290/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Trinity County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/246407662065345/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Tulare County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/265199503498830/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Tuolumne County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/185916618146693/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Ventura County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/189149047822748/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Yolo County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/242407815802209/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Yuba County Green Party ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???http://www.facebook.com/groups/270657406279636/ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ? ??? ? ? ??? ? ??? ? ??? ? ??? ? ???-- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. 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URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sun Aug 18 10:56:33 2013 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 10:56:33 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page In-Reply-To: <1376840755.27121.YahooMailNeo@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <201308180015.r7I0F0SS005098@mail.ucla.edu> <1376794578.63325.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52103FBF.60509@prodsyse.com> <1376815711.49488.YahooMailNeo@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1376840755.27121.YahooMailNeo@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52110AD1.9030304@prodsyse.com> On 8/18/2013 8:45 AM, John Thielking wrote: > For what it is worth, I sent a message to the person who posted spam > about sunglasses to "our" page to please remove her spam post. Am I correct that if we get control of that page, our Facebook manager can remove posts like that? We should discuss it this Thursday, recruit a Facebook manager, and then ask Marnie Glickman if she can transfer admin rights to that person, per Drew's suggestion. Best Wishes, Spencer > John Thielking > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Drew > *To:* Spencer Graves ; GPSCC > ; Sandy Perry > *Sent:* Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:48 AM > *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page > > What I wrote in reply on the GROW list to Edy Alvarez who'd posted it: > > "that's a bogus fb group for Santa Clara. like most all of them it > wasn't set up by us or in any way in conjunction with us. We are not > even on it. We should be given control of it." > > BTW, previously I went so far as to write to FB to try to get Admin > rights to "our" page. Never heard back and hadn't followed up yet. > > ------------- > > Edy replied to me directly (not on the GROW list): > > "Marnie Glickman, HIRED by the state party, set up these facebook > pages for county chapters a while back. > > Regardless of the background of why these FB pages were set up, they > are here now and all Greens should plug themselves into their local > county chapter and really make their county chapters thrive. > > I'm sure Marnie Glickman would be more than happy to have people join > their respective FB county chapter. She's NOT in charge of the pages, > but she remained an admin on these pages but if we can transition from > her being sole admin on certain pages to transferrring responsibility > to local Greens I think that would be great! ;) Let's get with the > program and have all Greens join their respective county pages! > > Your Green Friend Trying To Grow The Green Party, > Edy Alvarez" > > ------------- > > Barry Hermanson replied on the GROW list: > > "Edy, > > I appreciate the time you took to create this list. Thank you. > Unfortunately, some of our members do not use Facebook. GPCA has a > link to a list of active counties on the cagreens.org home page. It > takes you to: http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties. > I assume that every > county listed with contact information is active..." > > -------- > > I then replied to the GROW list: > > "The Ten Key Values of the Green Party includes DECENTRALIZATION. No > one central person be it MF or MG should have admin rights over all > "our" FB pages. That is extremely ungreen. The Santa Clara Green > Party Council requires that the state party give us exclusive rights > over "our" FB page or we will have to follow through with a previous > inquiry to FB to have them given to us." > > > > > Green is GO! > > > Drew > > > ~*~*~*~ > Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow > Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America > http://greenshadowcabinet.us > > Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests > First TV Ad http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 8/17/13, Spencer Graves > wrote: > > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page > To: "GPSCC" >, "Sandy Perry" > > > Date: Saturday, August 17, 2013, 8:30 PM > > > > > > > > Hi, All: > > > > > > > What can you tell us > about the Facebook page for the Green > Party of Santa Clara County > (www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782)? > > > > > > > SANDY: Could you please add to the agenda for > next Thursday a > 5-minute discussion of what is known about who manages > this and > what if anything the Santa Clara Greens should do to > manage this > more aggressively? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Spencer > > > > > > On 8/17/2013 7:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > > > > Any of you > guys have anything to do with "our" > Facebook page? I just > went there, and there are pictures of a bunch of > people I > have never seen before and a bunch of postings > from Marni > Glickman. WTH? > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: shane que hee > > > > To: > > Sent: > Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:15 PM > > Subject: > Complete List of County Green Parties in > California > > > > > > > From: Edy Alvarez > > > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:40:41 -0700 > > > > Subject: Complete List of County Green > Parties in > California > > > > > > Here's an updated list of all Green > Party County > pages on Facebook. Please share this > list with all > your local Green contacts. > > > > You can also find this list here: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/8071416222/doc/10150967563946223/ > > > > THE FULL LIST OF COUNTY GREEN PARTIES IN > CALIFORNIA > (Alphabetical Order) > > > > All Links tested by Edy Alvarez, August > 10th 2013 > > > > Alameda County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/230759976959962/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Alameda-County/160407803980749 > > > > > Alpine County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/145004038922189/ > > > > Amador County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/127385154026563/ > > > > Butte County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/195676377166387/ > > > > Calaveras County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/169980176411777/ > > > > Colusa County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/209736355746122/ > > > > Contra Costa County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/106700482767736/ > > https://www.facebook.com/ContraCostaCountyGreenty > > > > Del Norte County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/144718528951730/ > > > > El Dorado County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/202153486516039/ > > > > Fresno County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/103135306459280/ > > > > Glenn County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/258489890840696/ > > > > Humboldt County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/103152449791544/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Green-Party-of-Humboldt-County/65275514232 > > > > > Imperial County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/153900684695792/ > > > > Inyo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/132965866799838/ > > > > Kern County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/207727212620817/ > > > > Kings County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/234350396611179/ > > > > Lake County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/118801344887472/ > > > > Lassen County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/275915509100765/ > > > > Los Angeles County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/114542358579795/ > > https://www.facebook.com/gplac > > > > Madera County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/163384847075038/ > > > > Marin County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54809224639 > > > > Mariposa County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/254876427877335/ > > > > Mendocino County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/240657382618654/ > > > > Merced County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/239570786147350/ > > > > Modoc County Green Party () > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/230564580390759/ > > > > Mono County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/169716649771707/ > > > > Monterey County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/205135566199820/ > > > > Napa County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/napacountygreenparty/ > > > > Nevada County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/279482882067262/ > > > > Orange County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/2245541603/ > > > > Placer County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/214560088600554/ > > > > Plumas County Green Party () > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/292912340803863/ > > > > Riverside County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/202177146511436/ > > > > Sacramento County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/7568251226/ > > https://www.facebook.com/sacgreenparty > > > > San Benito County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/217345664990475/ > > > > San Bernardino County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/242175435823880/ > > > > San Diego County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/98995984750/ > > > > San Francisco County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/SFGreenParty/ > > > > San Joaquin County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/227914693927714/ > > > > San Luis Obispo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/SLOgreens/ > > > > San Mateo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/285241844826106/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-San-Mateo-County/158759390819459 > > > > > Santa Barbara County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/217501251618516/ > > > > Santa Clara County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782/ > > Santa Cruz County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/153400231407659/ > > https://www.facebook.com/gpsccc > > Shasta County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/273715409306282/ > > > > Sierra County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/135089053253535/ > > > > Siskiyou County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/268519126509308/ > > > > Solano County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/solanocountygreenparty/ > > > > Sonoma County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/123071604456207/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Sonoma-County/409788132410926 > > > > > Stanislaus County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/155399244544446/ > > > > Sutter County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/169844223092193/ > > > > Tehama County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/277510918942290/ > > > > Trinity County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/246407662065345/ > > > > Tulare County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/265199503498830/ > > > > Tuolumne County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/185916618146693/ > > > > Ventura County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/189149047822748/ > > > > Yolo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/242407815802209/ > > > > Yuba County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/270657406279636/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Sun Aug 18 12:15:07 2013 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:15:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page In-Reply-To: <1376840755.27121.YahooMailNeo@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <201308180015.r7I0F0SS005098@mail.ucla.edu> <1376794578.63325.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52103FBF.60509@prodsyse.com><1376815711.49488.YahooMailNeo@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1376840755.27121.YahooMailNeo@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52111D3B.8090202@aceweb.com> I clicked on a "Join group" button on the upper right. So far no response except that the button text changed to "cancel request". I'd call that 'not very encouraging'. On 08/18/2013 08:45 AM, John Thielking wrote: > For what it is worth, I sent a message to the person who posted spam > about sunglasses to "our" page to please remove her spam post. > > John Thielking > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Drew > *To:* Spencer Graves ; GPSCC > ; Sandy Perry > *Sent:* Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:48 AM > *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page > > What I wrote in reply on the GROW list to Edy Alvarez who'd posted it: > > "that's a bogus fb group for Santa Clara. like most all of them it > wasn't set up by us or in any way in conjunction with us. We are not > even on it. We should be given control of it." > > BTW, previously I went so far as to write to FB to try to get Admin > rights to "our" page. Never heard back and hadn't followed up yet. > > ------------- > > Edy replied to me directly (not on the GROW list): > > "Marnie Glickman, HIRED by the state party, set up these facebook > pages for county chapters a while back. > > Regardless of the background of why these FB pages were set up, they > are here now and all Greens should plug themselves into their local > county chapter and really make their county chapters thrive. > > I'm sure Marnie Glickman would be more than happy to have people join > their respective FB county chapter. She's NOT in charge of the pages, > but she remained an admin on these pages but if we can transition from > her being sole admin on certain pages to transferrring responsibility > to local Greens I think that would be great! ;) Let's get with the > program and have all Greens join their respective county pages! > > Your Green Friend Trying To Grow The Green Party, > Edy Alvarez" > > ------------- > > Barry Hermanson replied on the GROW list: > > "Edy, > > I appreciate the time you took to create this list. Thank you. > Unfortunately, some of our members do not use Facebook. GPCA has a > link to a list of active counties on the cagreens.org home page. It > takes you to: http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties. > I assume that every > county listed with contact information is active..." > > -------- > > I then replied to the GROW list: > > "The Ten Key Values of the Green Party includes DECENTRALIZATION. No > one central person be it MF or MG should have admin rights over all > "our" FB pages. That is extremely ungreen. The Santa Clara Green > Party Council requires that the state party give us exclusive rights > over "our" FB page or we will have to follow through with a previous > inquiry to FB to have them given to us." > > > > > Green is GO! > > > Drew > > > ~*~*~*~ > Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow > Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America > http://greenshadowcabinet.us > > Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ > Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests > First TV Ad http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 8/17/13, Spencer Graves > wrote: > > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page > To: "GPSCC" >, "Sandy Perry" > > > Date: Saturday, August 17, 2013, 8:30 PM > > > > > > > > Hi, All: > > > > > > > What can you tell us > about the Facebook page for the Green > Party of Santa Clara County > (www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782)? > > > > > > > SANDY: Could you please add to the agenda for > next Thursday a > 5-minute discussion of what is known about who manages > this and > what if anything the Santa Clara Greens should do to > manage this > more aggressively? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Spencer > > > > > > On 8/17/2013 7:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > > > > Any of you > guys have anything to do with "our" > Facebook page? I just > went there, and there are pictures of a bunch of > people I > have never seen before and a bunch of postings > from Marni > Glickman. WTH? > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: shane que hee > > > > To: > > Sent: > Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:15 PM > > Subject: > Complete List of County Green Parties in > California > > > > > > > From: Edy Alvarez > > > > > > Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:40:41 -0700 > > > > Subject: Complete List of County Green > Parties in > California > > > > > > Here's an updated list of all Green > Party County > pages on Facebook. Please share this > list with all > your local Green contacts. > > > > You can also find this list here: > https://www.facebook.com/groups/8071416222/doc/10150967563946223/ > > > > THE FULL LIST OF COUNTY GREEN PARTIES IN > CALIFORNIA > (Alphabetical Order) > > > > All Links tested by Edy Alvarez, August > 10th 2013 > > > > Alameda County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/230759976959962/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Alameda-County/160407803980749 > > > > > Alpine County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/145004038922189/ > > > > Amador County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/127385154026563/ > > > > Butte County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/195676377166387/ > > > > Calaveras County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/169980176411777/ > > > > Colusa County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/209736355746122/ > > > > Contra Costa County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/106700482767736/ > > https://www.facebook.com/ContraCostaCountyGreenty > > > > Del Norte County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/144718528951730/ > > > > El Dorado County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/202153486516039/ > > > > Fresno County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/103135306459280/ > > > > Glenn County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/258489890840696/ > > > > Humboldt County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/103152449791544/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Green-Party-of-Humboldt-County/65275514232 > > > > > Imperial County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/153900684695792/ > > > > Inyo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/132965866799838/ > > > > Kern County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/207727212620817/ > > > > Kings County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/234350396611179/ > > > > Lake County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/118801344887472/ > > > > Lassen County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/275915509100765/ > > > > Los Angeles County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/114542358579795/ > > https://www.facebook.com/gplac > > > > Madera County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/163384847075038/ > > > > Marin County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54809224639 > > > > Mariposa County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/254876427877335/ > > > > Mendocino County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/240657382618654/ > > > > Merced County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/239570786147350/ > > > > Modoc County Green Party () > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/230564580390759/ > > > > Mono County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/169716649771707/ > > > > Monterey County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/205135566199820/ > > > > Napa County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/napacountygreenparty/ > > > > Nevada County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/279482882067262/ > > > > Orange County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/2245541603/ > > > > Placer County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/214560088600554/ > > > > Plumas County Green Party () > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/292912340803863/ > > > > Riverside County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/202177146511436/ > > > > Sacramento County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/7568251226/ > > https://www.facebook.com/sacgreenparty > > > > San Benito County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/217345664990475/ > > > > San Bernardino County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/242175435823880/ > > > > San Diego County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/98995984750/ > > > > San Francisco County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/SFGreenParty/ > > > > San Joaquin County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/227914693927714/ > > > > San Luis Obispo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/SLOgreens/ > > > > San Mateo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/285241844826106/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-San-Mateo-County/158759390819459 > > > > > Santa Barbara County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/217501251618516/ > > > > Santa Clara County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782/ > > Santa Cruz County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/153400231407659/ > > https://www.facebook.com/gpsccc > > Shasta County Green Party > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/273715409306282/ > > > > Sierra County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/135089053253535/ > > > > Siskiyou County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/268519126509308/ > > > > Solano County Green Party () > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/solanocountygreenparty/ > > > > Sonoma County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/123071604456207/ > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Sonoma-County/409788132410926 > > > > > Stanislaus County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/155399244544446/ > > > > Sutter County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/169844223092193/ > > > > Tehama County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/277510918942290/ > > > > Trinity County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/246407662065345/ > > > > Tulare County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/265199503498830/ > > > > Tuolumne County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/185916618146693/ > > > > Ventura County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/189149047822748/ > > > > Yolo County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/242407815802209/ > > > > Yuba County Green Party > > http://www.facebook.com/groups/270657406279636/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Spencer Graves, PE, PhD > President and Chief Technology Officer > Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. > 751 Emerson Ct. > San Jos?, CA 95126 > ph: 408-655-4567 > web: www.structuremonitoring.com > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Tian http://tian.greens.org Latest addition: pictures& words on a privacy rally in San Francisco. There is a New Mexico flag on a Maryland quarter in my home. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net Sun Aug 18 12:09:09 2013 From: j.m.doyle at sbcglobal.net (Jim Doyle) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 12:09:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CA water issues Message-ID: <52111BD5.1060405@sbcglobal.net> Thanks to Drew for his posts including links to the sources for the Green Party candidates running for statewide office. From those links I proceeded to some of the links within those links. http://www.centralvalleybusinesstimes.com/stories/001/?ID=23942 has an article about a water summit at which a member of the audience spoke up about her concerns wiith the loss of delta farmland and the need for getting all parties on board within the article are references to two videos the first - just over than a minute - http://www.centralvalleybusinesstimes.com/stories/001/?ID=23942 has a couple of comments not mentioned in the article the second is a response - 4 minutes - by Jim Costa from the House of Representatives includes the policy issues involved I found them to be very informative. From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Sun Aug 18 23:26:57 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:26:57 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page In-Reply-To: <52111D3B.8090202@aceweb.com> References: <201308180015.r7I0F0SS005098@mail.ucla.edu> <1376794578.63325.YahooMailNeo@web185303.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52103FBF.60509@prodsyse.com><1376815711.49488.YahooMailNeo@web125405.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1376840755.27121.YahooMailNeo@web122906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <52111D3B.8090202@aceweb.com> Message-ID: Previously I was a member of this bogus FB group, but withdrew when I saw it was an ungreen centralized page MG had created. Green is Growth! Drew > I clicked on a "Join group" button on the upper right. So far no > response except that the button text changed to "cancel request". I'd > call that 'not very encouraging'. > > On 08/18/2013 08:45 AM, John Thielking wrote: >> For what it is worth, I sent a message to the person who posted spam >> about sunglasses to "our" page to please remove her spam post. >> >> John Thielking >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Drew >> *To:* Spencer Graves ; GPSCC >> ; Sandy Perry >> *Sent:* Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:48 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page >> >> What I wrote in reply on the GROW list to Edy Alvarez who'd posted it: >> >> "that's a bogus fb group for Santa Clara. like most all of them it >> wasn't set up by us or in any way in conjunction with us. We are not >> even on it. We should be given control of it." >> >> BTW, previously I went so far as to write to FB to try to get Admin >> rights to "our" page. Never heard back and hadn't followed up yet. >> >> ------------- >> >> Edy replied to me directly (not on the GROW list): >> >> "Marnie Glickman, HIRED by the state party, set up these facebook >> pages for county chapters a while back. >> >> Regardless of the background of why these FB pages were set up, they >> are here now and all Greens should plug themselves into their local >> county chapter and really make their county chapters thrive. >> >> I'm sure Marnie Glickman would be more than happy to have people join >> their respective FB county chapter. She's NOT in charge of the pages, >> but she remained an admin on these pages but if we can transition from >> her being sole admin on certain pages to transferrring responsibility >> to local Greens I think that would be great! ;) Let's get with the >> program and have all Greens join their respective county pages! >> >> Your Green Friend Trying To Grow The Green Party, >> Edy Alvarez" >> >> ------------- >> >> Barry Hermanson replied on the GROW list: >> >> "Edy, >> >> I appreciate the time you took to create this list. Thank you. >> Unfortunately, some of our members do not use Facebook. GPCA has a >> link to a list of active counties on the cagreens.org home page. It >> takes you to: http://www.cagreens.org/county-parties. >> I assume that every >> county listed with contact information is active..." >> >> -------- >> >> I then replied to the GROW list: >> >> "The Ten Key Values of the Green Party includes DECENTRALIZATION. No >> one central person be it MF or MG should have admin rights over all >> "our" FB pages. That is extremely ungreen. The Santa Clara Green >> Party Council requires that the state party give us exclusive rights >> over "our" FB page or we will have to follow through with a previous >> inquiry to FB to have them given to us." >> >> >> >> >> Green is GO! >> >> >> Drew >> >> >> ~*~*~*~ >> Dr. Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala leading the 100 member Green Shadow >> Cabinet to A Green New Deal for America >> http://greenshadowcabinet.us >> >> Dr. Stein's Campaign website: http://www.jillstein.org/ >> Climate Voter Power Pledge: http://www.jillstein.org/dc_climate_protests >> First TV Ad http://tinyurl.com/JillStein1stAd >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Sat, 8/17/13, Spencer Graves > > wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Facebook page >> To: "GPSCC" > >, "Sandy Perry" >> > >> Date: Saturday, August 17, 2013, 8:30 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, All: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What can you tell us >> about the Facebook page for the Green >> Party of Santa Clara County >> (www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782)? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SANDY: Could you please add to the agenda for >> next Thursday a >> 5-minute discussion of what is known about who manages >> this and >> what if anything the Santa Clara Greens should do to >> manage this >> more aggressively? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Spencer >> >> >> >> >> >> On 8/17/2013 7:56 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Any of you >> guys have anything to do with "our" >> Facebook page? I just >> went there, and there are pictures of a bunch of >> people I >> have never seen before and a bunch of postings >> from Marni >> Glickman. WTH? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> >> From: shane que hee >> > >> >> To: >> >> Sent: >> Saturday, August 17, 2013 5:15 PM >> >> Subject: >> Complete List of County Green Parties in >> California >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Edy Alvarez >> > >> >> >> >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:40:41 -0700 >> >> >> >> Subject: Complete List of County Green >> Parties in >> California >> >> >> >> >> >> Here's an updated list of all Green >> Party County >> pages on Facebook. Please share this >> list with all >> your local Green contacts. >> >> >> >> You can also find this list here: >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/8071416222/doc/10150967563946223/ >> >> >> >> THE FULL LIST OF COUNTY GREEN PARTIES IN >> CALIFORNIA >> (Alphabetical Order) >> >> >> >> All Links tested by Edy Alvarez, August >> 10th 2013 >> >> >> >> Alameda County Green Party >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/230759976959962/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Alameda-County/160407803980749 >> >> >> >> >> Alpine County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/145004038922189/ >> >> >> >> Amador County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/127385154026563/ >> >> >> >> Butte County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/195676377166387/ >> >> >> >> Calaveras County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/169980176411777/ >> >> >> >> Colusa County Green Party () >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/209736355746122/ >> >> >> >> Contra Costa County Green Party () >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/106700482767736/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/ContraCostaCountyGreenty >> >> >> >> Del Norte County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/144718528951730/ >> >> >> >> El Dorado County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/202153486516039/ >> >> >> >> Fresno County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/103135306459280/ >> >> >> >> Glenn County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/258489890840696/ >> >> >> >> Humboldt County Green Party () >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/103152449791544/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Green-Party-of-Humboldt-County/65275514232 >> >> >> >> >> Imperial County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/153900684695792/ >> >> >> >> Inyo County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/132965866799838/ >> >> >> >> Kern County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/207727212620817/ >> >> >> >> Kings County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/234350396611179/ >> >> >> >> Lake County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/118801344887472/ >> >> >> >> Lassen County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/275915509100765/ >> >> >> >> Los Angeles County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/114542358579795/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/gplac >> >> >> >> Madera County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/163384847075038/ >> >> >> >> Marin County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=54809224639 >> >> >> >> Mariposa County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/254876427877335/ >> >> >> >> Mendocino County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/240657382618654/ >> >> >> >> Merced County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/239570786147350/ >> >> >> >> Modoc County Green Party () >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/230564580390759/ >> >> >> >> Mono County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/169716649771707/ >> >> >> >> Monterey County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/205135566199820/ >> >> >> >> Napa County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/napacountygreenparty/ >> >> >> >> Nevada County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/279482882067262/ >> >> >> >> Orange County Green Party >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/2245541603/ >> >> >> >> Placer County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/214560088600554/ >> >> >> >> Plumas County Green Party () >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/292912340803863/ >> >> >> >> Riverside County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/202177146511436/ >> >> >> >> Sacramento County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/7568251226/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/sacgreenparty >> >> >> >> San Benito County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/217345664990475/ >> >> >> >> San Bernardino County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/242175435823880/ >> >> >> >> San Diego County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/98995984750/ >> >> >> >> San Francisco County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/SFGreenParty/ >> >> >> >> San Joaquin County Green Party >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/227914693927714/ >> >> >> >> San Luis Obispo County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/SLOgreens/ >> >> >> >> San Mateo County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/285241844826106/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-San-Mateo-County/158759390819459 >> >> >> >> >> Santa Barbara County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/217501251618516/ >> >> >> >> Santa Clara County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/214527585270782/ >> >> Santa Cruz County Green Party >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/153400231407659/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/gpsccc >> >> Shasta County Green Party >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/273715409306282/ >> >> >> >> Sierra County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/135089053253535/ >> >> >> >> Siskiyou County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/268519126509308/ >> >> >> >> Solano County Green Party () >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/solanocountygreenparty/ >> >> >> >> Sonoma County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/123071604456207/ >> >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Green-Party-of-Sonoma-County/409788132410926 >> >> >> >> >> Stanislaus County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/155399244544446/ >> >> >> >> Sutter County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/169844223092193/ >> >> >> >> Tehama County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/277510918942290/ >> >> >> >> Trinity County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/246407662065345/ >> >> >> >> Tulare County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/265199503498830/ >> >> >> >> Tuolumne County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/185916618146693/ >> >> >> >> Ventura County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/189149047822748/ >> >> >> >> Yolo County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/242407815802209/ >> >> >> >> Yuba County Green Party >> >> http://www.facebook.com/groups/270657406279636/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Spencer Graves, PE, PhD >> President and Chief Technology Officer >> Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. >> 751 Emerson Ct. >> San Jos?, CA 95126 >> ph: 408-655-4567 >> web: www.structuremonitoring.com >> >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > -- > Tian > http://tian.greens.org > Latest addition: pictures& words on a privacy rally in San Francisco. > There is a New Mexico flag on a Maryland quarter in my home. > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Mon Aug 19 10:22:09 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:22:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Luis Rodriguez event in San Fernando Valley, Sept 7 Message-ID: <25aa1eea14a56eb4b463708e764ee65c.squirrel@fulvetta.riseup.net> I don't know if we could get something as elaborate as this together, but maybe it can be an inspiration for us to do something along these lines. Verde esta Vamanos! Drew ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [gpca-grow] Save The Date! September 7th! Greening The Valley! From: "Edy Alvarez" Date: Sun, August 18, 2013 7:45 pm To: "gpca-grow at cagreens.org" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greening the Valley - A Celebration for Green Party Change Join us in the San Fernando Valley at the home of Kimberly Lewis for an evening of music, fun, food, and speakers as we continue building on the successes of the Green Party. *Keynote Speeches by 2014 Green Party Candidate for Governor Luis Rodriguez, 2014 Green Party Candidate for State Controller Laura Wells, and 2014 Green Party Candidate for Congress Michael Powelson WHEN: Saturday, September 7th.WHERE: 5910 Costello Avenue, Valley Glen 91401 FREE ENTRANCE. INVITE YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY! Suggested Donation: $5 dollars Lots of street parking available. Children welcomed. Food (Vegetarian and/or Meat Options.), drinks, and alcoholic beverages will be sold. Featured Performances/Speeches by: Bleu Skyes (Live music) Cochino Daddy Band (playing Woody Guthrie covers) Magdalena Murillo (performing poetry, singer) Jesus Aguilar (performing poetry, singer) Marlon Storm (performing on acoustic guitar, poet) Luis Rivas (performing poetry) Tim Morales (rapper) Sandra Kyle (Speech on Progressive Politics) BOOTHS: Vegan Corner by Stephanie Winnard Label GMO's by Karen Mangini In Solidarity With: -LA Progressive -Greenpeace Southern California -California Student Sustainability Coalition -Progressive Democrats San Fernando Valley -Green Party of Los Angeles County -Ecosocialist Alliance -Green Party Michael Powelson for Congress, 30th District -Green Party Luis Rodriguez for Governor of California-Green Party Candidate for State Controller Laura Wells -Los Angeles 350.org -Los Angeles Beyond Coal campaign -Topanga Peace Alliance -Los Angeles Valley College Eco-Advocates -Los Angeles Valley College Socialists -California State University Northridge Green Party -California State University Northridge Sustainability Club -Los Angeles County International Socialist Organization -Los Angeles County Socialist Party -League of Revolutionaries for a New America -San Fernando Valley Green Party -San Fernando Valley Socialists -San Fernando Valley Label GMO's -Occupy San Fernando Valley -The Entertainment Industry Hunger Project -Worldfest Contact Edy Alvarez for more information: valleycollegegreens at msn.com 818-336-2834 _______________________________________________ gpca-grow mailing list gpca-grow at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-grow From wrolley at charter.net Mon Aug 19 10:40:07 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:40:07 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] CA water issues In-Reply-To: <52111BD5.1060405@sbcglobal.net> References: <52111BD5.1060405@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <52125877.9000101@charter.net> On 8/18/2013 12:09 PM, Jim Doyle wrote: > the second is a response - 4 minutes - by Jim Costa from the House of > Representatives includes the policy issues involved > > I found them to be very informative. It is always informative to read anything by Costa since he is Democrat who is almost as far right as my ex-Congressman, Richard Pombo was. Costa is well funded by Westlands Water District members. I would expect that Congressmen George Miller or Jerry McNerney are more concerned about the full range of these issues. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Aug 19 11:26:15 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 11:26:15 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: WaterWired In-Reply-To: <001a11c2f38a0c5a9804e441cb89@google.com> References: <001a11c2f38a0c5a9804e441cb89@google.com> Message-ID: <52126347.9060805@charter.net> I know that I post a lot of things about water but here is another. If you have any interest in what is happening concerning water, especially groundwater, then read this post by Michael Campagna. He is a professor of hydrology at Oregon State and an internationally recognized expert on water. I post this because the pumping of groundwater to support agriculture is one of the big issues associated with the water war over the CA Delta. Consider the fate of Alviso from pumping too much water. Consider also that some parts of the San Joaquin Valley, though not now 7 ft. below sea level like Alviso, have dropped 21 ft. due to groundwater withdrawals. We can not make withdrawals from the natural economy to support the human economy without consequences. Wes -------- Original Message -------- Subject: WaterWired Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:12:17 +0000 From: WaterWired To: wrolley at charter.net WaterWired WaterWired ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What? No US National Groundwater Monitoring Network? Posted: 18 Aug 2013 12:06 PM PDT What? No national groundwater monitoring network in the US? We've got drought, climate change, groundwater pollution, the potential for disputes over groundwater between political jurisdictions - yet no national groundwater monitoring (quantity and quality) network? If those reasons are insufficient, just peruse (or simply read the title of) the recent... You are subscribed to email updates from WaterWired To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now . Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From betsy237 at prodsyse.com Sun Aug 18 00:31:44 2013 From: betsy237 at prodsyse.com (Betsy Wolf-Graves) Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 00:31:44 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse In-Reply-To: <1376807035.41992.YahooMailNeo@web185301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <520FE5E0.2010608@aceweb.com> <1376780780.13689.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <521006A5.3070202@aceweb.com> <1376784904.65684.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52105B9A.7000404@prodsyse.com> <1376807035.41992.YahooMailNeo@web185301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52107860.30503@prodsyse.com> I know very little about Luis from these emails. Jesse M, why badmouth Cheri? I thought she was fine when in San Jose. Badmouthing a Green is more toxic than badmouthing a Democrat. They have more members and can be lost in the crowd. Luis sounds like a dynamo. Who in the Greens here can put out some inquiries as to Luis' interest in coming up north, what he thinks his needs might be, and what dates seem to work for him? Betsy On 8/17/2013 11:23 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > Well, Betsy, if you read the email, you know as much as I > do. You have the advantage of having another County Council > person at hand to talk about it with. We have talked about > reaching out to the Latino population. We are having the > event at Seven Trees, where, we hope, we will have a large > number of Latinos present. We have a Latino candidate. > Sounds like an opportunity to me. > Caroline > > *From:* Betsy Wolf-Graves > *To:* Caroline Yacoub > *Cc:* Jim Doyle ; spencerg > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:28 PM > *Subject:* Re: Fw: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. > Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting > the Cart Before the Horse > > How much would Luis require? Does he want to stay > overnight? What might be overhead he needs for his travel > expenses? Betsy > > > > > On 8/17/2013 5:15 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > > I think that at least the County council (can't remember who > > all they are just now) should discuss this and see about > > getting a date (preferably after Sept 6) for him to come up > > here. > > Caroline > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > *From:* Tian Harter > > > *To:* Caroline Yacoub > > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:26 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. > > Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting > > the Cart Before the Horse > > I'd say call them up at the number near the bottom of the > > email.On 08/17/2013 04:06 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: > >> Wow! It would be terrific if we could get him up here AND, > >> if we have a date, and it's AFTER Sept 6, we could hand > >> out flyers announcing his candidacy and his appearance > >> here at the Seven Trees event. Woo Hoo! > >> Caroline > >> > >> *From:* Tian Harter mailto:tnharter at aceweb.com > > >> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > >> > > >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:06 PM > >> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. > >> Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting > >> the Cart Before the Horse > >> This guy would be glad to coordinate getting his candidate > >> for Governor of California to our county to speak to a > >> meeting and raise some awareness about his campaign. Seems > >> like we ought to host him or invite him to the GPSCC > >> meeting or something. I think he is LA bases, but willing > >> to come up here for us. Tian -------- Original Message > >> -------- > >> Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green > Party > >> Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse > >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:33:06 -0700 > >> From: Edy Alvarez mailto:valleycollegegreens at msn.com > > >> Reply-To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group > >> mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org > > >> To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group > >> mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org > > >> > >> As many would PRESUMABLY know, the Green Party operates on > >> a very limited budget, and as someone who spearheaded > >> the Jill Stein California Campus Tour, even I had > >> difficulty maintaining constant contact with the > >> JS campaign. I would hope that Greens understand that it > >> is extremely difficult to hire part-time or full-time > >> staff for a national campaign and that maintaining > >> constant communication with the voluminous amounts of > >> inquiries that come into a campaign becomes a monumental > >> task. Regardless, I am asking ALL Greens around the > >> state to rally behind the candidacy of Luis Rodriguez in > >> the hopes that we can bring in hundreds of thousands of > >> new voters into the Green Party, especially all those tens > >> of thousands of Latinos that are turning eighteen > >> everyday. I need people to think BEYOND the normal > >> parameters of what it means to be a Green and run as a > >> Green. We need everyone to become involved! Your friend, > >> Edy Alvarez 818-336-2834 > >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:23:06 -0700 From: > >> moorman.jesse at gmail.com > > > >> To: floresrmagon at hotmail.com > > >> >; gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org > > >> > Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] > >> Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorial candidiate > >> - Putting the Cart Before the Horse > >> Here's the message I sent to Jill Stein on September 11, > >> 2012: > >> > >> Cheri was interviewed on KPFK here in Los Angeles > >> tonight. She was > >> really, really bad. Remember Sarah Palin? Cheri was > >> less prepared than > >> Palin when McCain introduced her. Can someone give her > >> a crash > >> course on the issues and on the Green Party's platform > >> and values? > >> > >> I never heard Honkala interviewed again, and I never heard > >> about another interview, but maybe she was great the next > >> time. Another thing that bothered me deeply about the > >> Stein campaign was that I never could get a response from > >> anybody about anything I told them. One exception - I > >> volunteered something and did not hear for weeks, so I had > >> second thoughts and canceled the offer, and then after > >> about 2 months someone contacted me, not knowing that I > >> had canceled it. > >> Jesse > >> _______________________________________________ gpca-ccwg > >> mailing list gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org > > >> > > >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg > >> _______________________________________________ > >> sosfbay-discuss mailing listsosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > >> >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > -- > > Tian > > http://tian.greens.org/ > > Latest addition: pictures & words on a privacy rally in > San Francisco. > > There is a New Mexico flag on a Maryland quarter in my home. > > > > > From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Mon Aug 19 13:23:48 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 13:23:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse In-Reply-To: <52107860.30503@prodsyse.com> References: <520FE5E0.2010608@aceweb.com> <1376780780.13689.YahooMailNeo@web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <521006A5.3070202@aceweb.com> <1376784904.65684.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52105B9A.7000404@prodsyse.com> <1376807035.41992.YahooMailNeo@web185301.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <52107860.30503@prodsyse.com> Message-ID: Just to clarify, the note from Jesse M (I don't know that person) was from a different email list. Luis sounds very interesting. I am enjoying reading his book "Always Running: La Vida Loca" right now, describing how he extracted himself from gang life and became an inspirational leader for urban youth and people of color everywhere. I know there is some discussion questioning how loyal he would be to the Greens, given that he was the VP. nominee from the Justice Party last year. The Justice Party was created by mostly disaffected former Greens that were Naderites. There used to be a very strong two-faction rift in the GPCA between the Feinstein faction and the anti-Feinstein/Naderite/Cameo faction. Previously Feinstein went out of his way to using unethical and possibly illegal tactics to trash the Nativo Lopez (who was part of the anti-Feinstein/Naderite/Cameo) and alienated Nativo Lopez' large Latino base to Green Party to the point where now the GPCA is labeled racist in some circles. I don't know if there is any direct connection between Nativo Lopez and Luis Rodriguez beyond both being prominent Latino leaders from the LA area (where Feinstein dominates), but it wouldn't surprise me if so. And it wouldn't surprise me if Luis Rodriguez weren't a target of Feinstein's. So I definitely hope we can end up in a much better place with Latinos and expanding the Greens in that way, and I also hope L.R. is constructively working to build the Green Party (not refactionalize it). Verde esta vamanos! Drew / Andreas > I know very little about Luis from these emails. Jesse M, > why badmouth Cheri? I thought she was fine when in San > Jose. Badmouthing a Green is more toxic than badmouthing a > Democrat. They have more members and can be lost in the crowd. > > Luis sounds like a dynamo. Who in the Greens here can put > out some inquiries as to Luis' interest in coming up north, > what he thinks his needs might be, and what dates seem to > work for him? Betsy > > > > > > On 8/17/2013 11:23 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> Well, Betsy, if you read the email, you know as much as I >> do. You have the advantage of having another County Council >> person at hand to talk about it with. We have talked about >> reaching out to the Latino population. We are having the >> event at Seven Trees, where, we hope, we will have a large >> number of Latinos present. We have a Latino candidate. >> Sounds like an opportunity to me. >> Caroline >> >> *From:* Betsy Wolf-Graves >> *To:* Caroline Yacoub >> *Cc:* Jim Doyle ; spencerg >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:28 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Fw: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. >> Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting >> the Cart Before the Horse >> >> How much would Luis require? Does he want to stay >> overnight? What might be overhead he needs for his travel >> expenses? Betsy >> >> >> >> >> On 8/17/2013 5:15 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> > I think that at least the County council (can't remember who >> > all they are just now) should discuss this and see about >> > getting a date (preferably after Sept 6) for him to come up >> > here. >> > Caroline >> > >> > ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> > *From:* Tian Harter > > >> > *To:* Caroline Yacoub > > >> > *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:26 PM >> > *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. >> > Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting >> > the Cart Before the Horse >> > I'd say call them up at the number near the bottom of the >> > email.On 08/17/2013 04:06 PM, Caroline Yacoub wrote: >> >> Wow! It would be terrific if we could get him up here AND, >> >> if we have a date, and it's AFTER Sept 6, we could hand >> >> out flyers announcing his candidacy and his appearance >> >> here at the Seven Trees event. Woo Hoo! >> >> Caroline >> >> >> >> *From:* Tian Harter mailto:tnharter at aceweb.com >> >> >> *To:* sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> >> > > >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:06 PM >> >> *Subject:* [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. >> >> Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting >> >> the Cart Before the Horse >> >> This guy would be glad to coordinate getting his candidate >> >> for Governor of California to our county to speak to a >> >> meeting and raise some awareness about his campaign. Seems >> >> like we ought to host him or invite him to the GPSCC >> >> meeting or something. I think he is LA bases, but willing >> >> to come up here for us. Tian -------- Original Message >> >> -------- >> >> Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] Luis J. Rodriguez as Green >> Party >> >> Gubernatorialcandidiate - Putting the Cart Before the Horse >> >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:33:06 -0700 >> >> From: Edy Alvarez mailto:valleycollegegreens at msn.com >> >> >> Reply-To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group >> >> mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org >> >> >> To: GPCA Campaigns & Candidates Working Group >> >> mailto:gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org >> >> >> >> >> As many would PRESUMABLY know, the Green Party operates on >> >> a very limited budget, and as someone who spearheaded >> >> the Jill Stein California Campus Tour, even I had >> >> difficulty maintaining constant contact with the >> >> JS campaign. I would hope that Greens understand that it >> >> is extremely difficult to hire part-time or full-time >> >> staff for a national campaign and that maintaining >> >> constant communication with the voluminous amounts of >> >> inquiries that come into a campaign becomes a monumental >> >> task. Regardless, I am asking ALL Greens around the >> >> state to rally behind the candidacy of Luis Rodriguez in >> >> the hopes that we can bring in hundreds of thousands of >> >> new voters into the Green Party, especially all those tens >> >> of thousands of Latinos that are turning eighteen >> >> everyday. I need people to think BEYOND the normal >> >> parameters of what it means to be a Green and run as a >> >> Green. We need everyone to become involved! Your friend, >> >> Edy Alvarez 818-336-2834 >> >> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 13:23:06 -0700 From: >> >> moorman.jesse at gmail.com >> > > >> >> To: floresrmagon at hotmail.com >> >> >> > >; gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org >> >> >> > > Subject: Re: [gpca-ccwg] >> >> Luis J. Rodriguez as Green Party Gubernatorial candidiate >> >> - Putting the Cart Before the Horse >> >> Here's the message I sent to Jill Stein on September 11, >> >> 2012: >> >> >> >> Cheri was interviewed on KPFK here in Los Angeles >> >> tonight. She was >> >> really, really bad. Remember Sarah Palin? Cheri was >> >> less prepared than >> >> Palin when McCain introduced her. Can someone give her >> >> a crash >> >> course on the issues and on the Green Party's platform >> >> and values? >> >> >> >> I never heard Honkala interviewed again, and I never heard >> >> about another interview, but maybe she was great the next >> >> time. Another thing that bothered me deeply about the >> >> Stein campaign was that I never could get a response from >> >> anybody about anything I told them. One exception - I >> >> volunteered something and did not hear for weeks, so I had >> >> second thoughts and canceled the offer, and then after >> >> about 2 months someone contacted me, not knowing that I >> >> had canceled it. >> >> Jesse >> >> _______________________________________________ gpca-ccwg >> >> mailing list gpca-ccwg at cagreens.org >> >> >> > > >> >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gpca-ccwg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> sosfbay-discuss mailing listsosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> >> >> > >http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >> > -- >> > Tian >> > http://tian.greens.org/ >> > Latest addition: pictures & words on a privacy rally in >> San Francisco. >> > There is a New Mexico flag on a Maryland quarter in my home. >> > >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From vdf at juno.com Mon Aug 19 23:18:34 2013 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 06:18:34 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tabling possibilities: September festivals in Mountain View, Santa Cla ra & Cupertino Message-ID: <20130819.231834.25248.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Hi everyone, The following three festivals are coming up in September, and I just sent emails to the organizers asking if they will have "Free Speech" areas in case we want to consider tabling: Mountain View Art & Wine Festival September 7-8, 10 AM - 6 PM both days http://www.miramarevents.com/mountainview/?view=featured Contact: Chamber of Commerce Mountain View, info at chambermv.org Santa Clara Art & Wine Festival September 14-15, 10 AM - 5 PM both days http://santaclaraca.gov/index.aspx?page=2360 Contact: Santa Clara Parks & Recreation, ParksandRecreation at santaclaraca.gov Cupertino Fall Festival September 21, 10 AM - 6 PM http://www.cupertino.org/index.aspx?page=1088 Contact: Cupertino Parks & Recreation, parks at cupertino.org Right now I'm not sure what my availability will be for those weekends, and I don't know if others are interested or available, but I enjoy these festivals when I have time to go to them and I thought it might be nice to get some information. I'll pass it along as soon as I get it. Best wishes, Valerie Face Santa Clara, CA ~*~*~*~ "Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?" - from "The Summer Day" by Mary Oliver http://www.loc.gov/poetry/180/133.html ____________________________________________________________ Extended Stay America Get Fantastic Amenities, low rates! Kitchen, Ample Workspace, Free WIFI http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52130a7f749d6a7d014ast03vuc From wrolley at charter.net Tue Aug 20 09:30:43 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:30:43 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tabling possibilities: September festivals in Mountain View, Santa Cla ra & Cupertino In-Reply-To: <20130819.231834.25248.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> References: <20130819.231834.25248.3@webmail13.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <521399B3.3080804@charter.net> Valerie, The Morgan Hill Chamber of Commerce sponsors a "Taste of Morgan Hill" festival in conjunction with a good regional quilting show. Dates are Sept. 28 (10-9 PM) , 29 (10-4PM). Generally, both Republican and Democratic parties have a space. Registration looks cost prohibitive. Here is the calculation. South County Democratic Club (non-profit) had a booth last year at $150 - non-profit rate. This is a club, not the Democratic Party Central Committee. Since there is no equivalent "Club" for Greens with proper legal non-profit status, the cost would be $400. I will do some checking on the "non profit" status of a political club. l http://www.morganhill.org/2013-taste-morgan-hill The last several years, this has drawn 40-45 K audience. On 8/19/2013 11:18 PM, Valerie D. Face wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The following three festivals are coming up in September, and I just sent emails to the organizers asking if they will have "Free Speech" areas in case we want to consider tabling: > > Mountain View Art & Wine Festival > September 7-8, 10 AM - 6 PM both days > http://www.miramarevents.com/mountainview/?view=featured > Contact: Chamber of Commerce Mountain View, info at chambermv.org > > Santa Clara Art & Wine Festival > September 14-15, 10 AM - 5 PM both days > http://santaclaraca.gov/index.aspx?page=2360 > Contact: Santa Clara Parks & Recreation, ParksandRecreation at santaclaraca.gov > > Cupertino Fall Festival > September 21, 10 AM - 6 PM > http://www.cupertino.org/index.aspx?page=1088 > Contact: Cupertino Parks & Recreation, parks at cupertino.org > > > Right now I'm not sure what my availability will be for those weekends, and I don't know if others are interested or available, but I enjoy these festivals when I have time to go to them and I thought it might be nice to get some information. I'll pass it along as soon as I get it. > > Best wishes, > Valerie Face > Santa Clara, CA -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Tue Aug 20 10:47:37 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:47:37 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership Message-ID: <5213ABB9.4040306@charter.net> On 8/20/2013 7:45 AM, Drew wrote on the GROW email list: > So I'll say it again: these are not legit FB pages, certainly ot for our > (Santa Clara) party. Marnie needs to hand over admin rights to the > respective councils and this exercise in unGreen centralization should > NEVER be repeated. > > Green is DEcentralized! > > Drew It appears that the concept of Green Party Leadership is an oxymoron. Whenever anyone understands a need for actions, and then takes the steps to make that action possible, they are accused of being un-democratic. My real worry is that those who live at the grassroots of the party become so driven by the news of the day that then never step back and think about what needs to be done and how to make that happen. Rather than standing on the decentralization soapbox and castigating someone who had the foresight to take step 1, maybe the best approach is to say ... "Thank you for getting this started. We really needed it. Now, how do we keep it working." Unless, of course, you don't think it is needed. Drew, as worded, your comments appear more like a power grab than an offer to help. It could be interpreted as saying that you want to take over so that you can make sure that it dies. If you were to introduce a motion for the Santa Clara County council to the effect that: - Having a local presence on facebook is an important part of our success and wishes to thank Marnie Glickman for getting that started, - The County Council recognizes that importance and are wiling to allocate the time and energy to maintain the minimal administration duties. - The County Council will make the effort to ensure that interested people in Santa Clara County have the opportunity to participate in the group, - and we formally request that Admin duties be transferred to a person designated by the county council. I am sure that Marnie will be more than happy to make that happen. Exercising Grassroots Democracy means taking responsibility for action, not just leading yet another demonstration. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Tue Aug 20 11:05:15 2013 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:05:15 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership In-Reply-To: <5213ABB9.4040306@charter.net> References: <5213ABB9.4040306@charter.net> Message-ID: <5213AFDB.6000206@structuremonitoring.com> On 8/20/2013 10:47 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: > On 8/20/2013 7:45 AM, Drew wrote on the GROW email list: >> So I'll say it again: these are not legit FB pages, certainly ot for our >> (Santa Clara) party. Marnie needs to hand over admin rights to the >> respective councils and this exercise in unGreen centralization should >> NEVER be repeated. >> >> Green is DEcentralized! >> >> Drew > It appears that the concept of Green Party Leadership is an oxymoron. > Whenever anyone understands a need for actions, and then takes the > steps to make that action possible, they are accused of being > un-democratic. > > My real worry is that those who live at the grassroots of the party > become so driven by the news of the day that then never step back and > think about what needs to be done and how to make that happen. > Rather than standing on the decentralization soapbox and castigating > someone who had the foresight to take step 1, maybe the best approach > is to say ... "Thank you for getting this started. We really needed > it. Now, how do we keep it working." Unless, of course, you don't > think it is needed. > > Drew, as worded, your comments appear more like a power grab than an > offer to help. It could be interpreted as saying that you want to > take over so that you can make sure that it dies. If you were to > introduce a motion for the Santa Clara County council to the effect that: > - Having a local presence on facebook is an important part of our > success and wishes to thank Marnie Glickman for getting that started, > - The County Council recognizes that importance and are wiling to > allocate the time and energy to maintain the minimal administration > duties. > - The County Council will make the effort to ensure that interested > people in Santa Clara County have the opportunity to participate in > the group, > - and we formally request that Admin duties be transferred to a person > designated by the county council. > > I am sure that Marnie will be more than happy to make that happen. > > Exercising Grassroots Democracy means taking responsibility for > action, not just leading yet another demonstration. I agree with Wes: I once heard someone say, "I'm not a member of any organized political party: I'm a Democrat." We need to assume good intentions on the part of all -- even when we perceive evidence to the contrary. A seminal study of twentieth century revolutions found that the successes were all a product of defections, and people are more likely to defect if they are treated with respect (effectivedefense.org -> "violence and nonviolence"). Ya catch more flies with honey than vinegar ;-) SANDY: Can we allocate a few minutes to discuss this issue (the Facebook account for the Santa Clara Greens) at our meeting this Thursday? I'd be happier if someone else did it. However, I'm willing to do it under the same rules I use to maintain our primary web page (www.cagreens.org/santaclara ), where I only act when someone requests it. The last request was in mid-July, and the page still announces our July meeting and two other July events. That's mediocre but better than what we had before I started doing this ;-) Spencer > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Tue Aug 20 11:36:08 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership In-Reply-To: <5213AFDB.6000206@structuremonitoring.com> References: <5213ABB9.4040306@charter.net> <5213AFDB.6000206@structuremonitoring.com> Message-ID: <1377023768.94142.YahooMailNeo@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Spencer, The default for the Santa Clara County Green Party Page should always be to announce the current month's meeting and current events for that month that the GP is tabling at. Consider that to be an ongoing action item request from me.? And yes, I think that Drew should lighten up on MG's initiative to start some FB pages.? Simply join the groups in question and then message the moderator with our requests to hand over admin functions. Thanks. Sincerely, John Thielking ________________________________ From: Spencer Graves To: Wes Rolley ; Sandy Perry Cc: Post South SF Bay discuss Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership On 8/20/2013 10:47 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: On 8/20/2013 7:45 AM, Drew wrote on the GROW email list: > >So I'll say it again: these are not legit FB pages, certainly ot for our (Santa Clara) party. Marnie needs to hand over admin rights to the respective councils and this exercise in unGreen centralization should NEVER be repeated. Green is DEcentralized! Drew It appears that the concept of Green Party Leadership is an oxymoron.? Whenever anyone understands a need for actions, and then takes the steps to make that action possible, they are accused of being un-democratic.? > >My real worry is that those who live at the grassroots of the party become so driven by the news of the day that then never step back and think about what needs to be done and how to make that happen.?? Rather than standing on the decentralization soapbox and castigating someone who had the foresight to take step 1, maybe the best approach is to say ... "Thank you for getting this started.? We really needed it.? Now, how do we keep it working."?? Unless, of course, you don't think it is needed. > >Drew, as worded, your comments appear more like a power grab than an offer to help.?? It could be interpreted as saying that you want to take over so that you can make sure that it dies.?? If you were to introduce a motion for the Santa Clara County council to the effect that: >- Having a local presence on facebook is an important part of our success and wishes to thank Marnie Glickman for getting that started, >- The County Council recognizes that importance and are wiling to allocate the time and energy to maintain the minimal administration duties. >- The County Council will make the effort to ensure that interested people in Santa Clara County have the opportunity to participate in the group, >- and we formally request that Admin duties be transferred to a person designated by the county council. > >I am sure that Marnie will be more than happy to make that happen.?? > >Exercising Grassroots Democracy means taking responsibility for action, not just leading yet another demonstration.? ????? I agree with Wes:? I once heard someone say, "I'm not a member of any organized political party:? I'm a Democrat."? We need to assume good intentions on the part of all -- even when we perceive evidence to the contrary.? A seminal study of twentieth century revolutions found that the successes were all a product of defections, and people are more likely to defect if they are treated with respect (effectivedefense.org -> "violence and nonviolence").? Ya catch more flies with honey than vinegar ;-)? SANDY:? Can we allocate a few minutes to discuss this issue (the Facebook account for the Santa Clara Greens) at our meeting this Thursday?? I'd be happier if someone else did it.? However, I'm willing to do it under the same rules I use to maintain our primary web page (www.cagreens.org/santaclara), where I only act when someone requests it.? The last request was in mid-July, and the page still announces our July meeting and two other July events.? That's mediocre but better than what we had before I started doing this ;-)? ????? 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URL: From spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com Tue Aug 20 11:42:06 2013 From: spencer.graves at structuremonitoring.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:42:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership In-Reply-To: <1377023768.94142.YahooMailNeo@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <5213ABB9.4040306@charter.net> <5213AFDB.6000206@structuremonitoring.com> <1377023768.94142.YahooMailNeo@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5213B87E.9070305@structuremonitoring.com> On 8/20/2013 11:36 AM, John Thielking wrote: > Spencer, > > The default for the Santa Clara County Green Party Page should always > be to announce the current month's meeting and current events for that > month that the GP is tabling at. Consider that to be an ongoing action > item request from me. Not adequate: I'm sufficiently overwhelmed with other priorities to find the time for that. Send me a draft verbiage of what you want on our web page with links to other sources of information if any. Ask that I put it on our web page, and I will. That method has worked for a few years now. Anything less specific is more than I can juggle with all the other balls I have in the air ;-) Spencer > And yes, I think that Drew should lighten up on MG's initiative to > start some FB pages. Simply join the groups in question and then > message the moderator with our requests to hand over admin functions. > Thanks. > > Sincerely, > > John Thielking > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Spencer Graves > *To:* Wes Rolley ; Sandy Perry > *Cc:* Post South SF Bay discuss > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:05 AM > *Subject:* Re: [GPSCC-chat] Exercising Leadership > > On 8/20/2013 10:47 AM, Wes Rolley wrote: >> On 8/20/2013 7:45 AM, Drew wrote on the GROW email list: >>> So I'll say it again: these are not legit FB pages, certainly ot for our >>> (Santa Clara) party. Marnie needs to hand over admin rights to the >>> respective councils and this exercise in unGreen centralization should >>> NEVER be repeated. >>> >>> Green is DEcentralized! >>> >>> Drew >> It appears that the concept of Green Party Leadership is an >> oxymoron. Whenever anyone understands a need for actions, and then >> takes the steps to make that action possible, they are accused of >> being un-democratic. >> >> My real worry is that those who live at the grassroots of the party >> become so driven by the news of the day that then never step back and >> think about what needs to be done and how to make that happen. Rather >> than standing on the decentralization soapbox and castigating someone >> who had the foresight to take step 1, maybe the best approach is to >> say ... "Thank you for getting this started. We really needed it. >> Now, how do we keep it working." Unless, of course, you don't think >> it is needed. >> >> Drew, as worded, your comments appear more like a power grab than an >> offer to help. It could be interpreted as saying that you want to >> take over so that you can make sure that it dies. If you were to >> introduce a motion for the Santa Clara County council to the effect >> that: >> - Having a local presence on facebook is an important part of our >> success and wishes to thank Marnie Glickman for getting that started, >> - The County Council recognizes that importance and are wiling to >> allocate the time and energy to maintain the minimal administration >> duties. >> - The County Council will make the effort to ensure that interested >> people in Santa Clara County have the opportunity to participate in >> the group, >> - and we formally request that Admin duties be transferred to a >> person designated by the county council. >> >> I am sure that Marnie will be more than happy to make that happen. >> >> Exercising Grassroots Democracy means taking responsibility for >> action, not just leading yet another demonstration. > > > I agree with Wes: I once heard someone say, "I'm not a member > of any organized political party: I'm a Democrat." We need to assume > good intentions on the part of all -- even when we perceive evidence > to the contrary. A seminal study of twentieth century revolutions > found that the successes were all a product of defections, and people > are more likely to defect if they are treated with respect > (effectivedefense.org -> "violence and nonviolence"). Ya catch more > flies with honey than vinegar ;-) > > > SANDY: Can we allocate a few minutes to discuss this issue (the > Facebook account for the Santa Clara Greens) at our meeting this > Thursday? I'd be happier if someone else did it. However, I'm > willing to do it under the same rules I use to maintain our primary > web page (www.cagreens.org/santaclara > ), where I only act when someone > requests it. The last request was in mid-July, and the page still > announces our July meeting and two other July events. 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Gerry From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Tue Aug 20 13:04:38 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 13:04:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] We now own "our" FB page (was Re: Exercising Leadership) In-Reply-To: <5213ABB9.4040306@charter.net> References: <5213ABB9.4040306@charter.net> Message-ID: We now have admin rights to our "own" FB page as we'd talked about getting at the last General Business meeting. https://www.facebook.com/groups/gpscc Perhaps we could figure out an admin group of FB fans (I am not a fan myself). To start off with I talked with Caroline the other day, found out she was an FB person and so I made her an admin of the group as well as myself. Overall wresting control of "our" FB group represents IMO a countercoup to Marnie's unGreen previous actions. Wes, you never attended any of the General Business meetings here in SCC where we've talked about the Marnie problem (and the similar and semi-related MF problem). or the General A ssemblies where Marnie's actions have been so problematic. As one of my friends said to me once (and I've said to you directly before) "The world is run by those that show up." Green is GO! Drew > On 8/20/2013 7:45 AM, Drew wrote on the GROW email list: >> So I'll say it again: these are not legit FB pages, certainly ot for our >> (Santa Clara) party. Marnie needs to hand over admin rights to the >> respective councils and this exercise in unGreen centralization should >> NEVER be repeated. >> >> Green is DEcentralized! >> >> Drew > It appears that the concept of Green Party Leadership is an oxymoron. > Whenever anyone understands a need for actions, and then takes the steps > to make that action possible, they are accused of being un-democratic. > > My real worry is that those who live at the grassroots of the party > become so driven by the news of the day that then never step back and > think about what needs to be done and how to make that happen. Rather > than standing on the decentralization soapbox and castigating someone > who had the foresight to take step 1, maybe the best approach is to say > ... "Thank you for getting this started. We really needed it. Now, how > do we keep it working." Unless, of course, you don't think it is needed. > > Drew, as worded, your comments appear more like a power grab than an > offer to help. It could be interpreted as saying that you want to take > over so that you can make sure that it dies. If you were to introduce > a motion for the Santa Clara County council to the effect that: > - Having a local presence on facebook is an important part of our > success and wishes to thank Marnie Glickman for getting that started, > - The County Council recognizes that importance and are wiling to > allocate the time and energy to maintain the minimal administration > duties. > - The County Council will make the effort to ensure that interested > people in Santa Clara County have the opportunity to participate in the > group, > - and we formally request that Admin duties be transferred to a person > designated by the county council. > > I am sure that Marnie will be more than happy to make that happen. > > Exercising Grassroots Democracy means taking responsibility for action, > not just leading yet another demonstration. > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From perrysandy at aol.com Tue Aug 20 16:10:24 2013 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THURS AUG 22 GPSCC MEETING Message-ID: <8D06C1195F59D55-2558-584E8@Webmail-d103.sysops.aol.com> Hi Everyone, Sorry this is a little late, but here is a proposed agenda. This is based on what I personally am aware of, and what I have heard mentioned on this discuss page. Please propose additions as necessary. Please note there is no 7 pm speaker proposed now, while last month we had three vying to be heard. I realize this is a little late, but if either of the two not selected last month are still interested, the space is available. Thanks! Sandy Proposed Agenda?August22, 2013 Green Party Meeting 7:00-7:30 Nospeaker has been proposed for this month. 7:30-7:40 Identifyfacilitator, note taker, vibes watcher, time keeper and agenda preparer. Introsand announcements. Additions or corrections to agenda. 7:40-8:00 HealthCare Committee report. Report on September 6 Health Care Movie showing withpanel discussion including a Green Party speaker. What members can do toincrease attendance. Prospects for building Green Party membership in thecourse of fighting for single payer health care. 8:00-8:15 Reporton August 3 Summer Heat Richmond march and other climate change activities. 8:15?8:20 Treasurerreport ? pass the hat. 8:20-8:40 Reporton Luis Rodriguez campaign for governor and any local actions we should take. 8:40-8:50 Reporton tabling at Gay Pride and discussion or decisions about Gay Pride tablingfees as needed. 8:50-9:00 Reporton De Anza tabling and plans for club. Report on activity around Stop the Banin Palo Alto. 9:00-9:10 Discussionand decisions as needed around issues connected with the GPSCC facebook page. 9:10 Adjourn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This petition was started by Michelle Dalnoky, a Green Party member in Florida. http://www.change.org/petitions/federal-housing-finance-agency-stop-collective-punishment-over-eminent-domain-use ----- Forwarded Messages ----- From: Gayle McLaughlin To: Michelle D Thank you Michelle! I'm on a much needed 2 week staycation/vacation. But I'm excited about your petition. Someone from Change.org just emailed as well about this. I'm going to forward your email and his email to ACCE (Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment), a great community working with us on this Local Principal Reduction Program. Thanks again for your support and interest in this effort we are engaged in to provide a real solution to this housing crisis! Best, Gayle McLaughlin Mayor, City of Richmond From: Michelle D To: "Gayle at MayorGayle.net" t> Hello. I am a Green Party member in Florida and was compelled to start this petition in support of your move to obtain foreclosed homes through eminent domain. I am hoping it will go viral on a national level. Good Luck. Michelle Dalnoky Thank you, Starlene Rankin Sacramento GP _______________________________________________ gpca-forum mailing list gpca-forum at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/gpca-forum -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Aug 20 18:51:19 2013 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:51:19 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy Posters and more In-Reply-To: <5213C9FC.2040005@earthlink.net> References: <5213C771.6080801@earthlink.net>,<5213C9FC.2040005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Wow! Those are great! I hope they inspire others, as they inspire me, to dust off my old laser printer and hit up ebay for some old cartridges and swipe some blank paperstock from my local recycling center. The proper vehicle for a postering/pamphleting route is a bicycle, dontchya know. > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:56:44 -0700 > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy Posters and more > > > I received an email from dailykos ... > "The one comic that explains just how screwed America is, by Occupy > Posters". > > Following it backwards, I found this: > http://owsposters.tumblr.com > > with a collection of posters and more, which might > be of interest. > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Tue Aug 20 18:54:59 2013 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:54:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy Posters and more In-Reply-To: References: <5213C771.6080801@earthlink.net>, <5213C9FC.2040005@earthlink.net>, Message-ID: Economizing hint: Edit the posters in a graphics program such as Irfanview or The GIMP to take out big black areas, leaving the black outine as a coloring book guide. Then use cheap black nontoxic poster paint from Michael's to fill in the blanked out sections. You'll save a lot of toner cartridge money. From: snug.bug at hotmail.com To: gerrygras at earthlink.net; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:51:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy Posters and more Wow! Those are great! I hope they inspire others, as they inspire me, to dust off my old laser printer and hit up ebay for some old cartridges and swipe some blank paperstock from my local recycling center. The proper vehicle for a postering/pamphleting route is a bicycle, dontchya know. > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:56:44 -0700 > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net > To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Occupy Posters and more > > > I received an email from dailykos ... > "The one comic that explains just how screwed America is, by Occupy > Posters". > > Following it backwards, I found this: > http://owsposters.tumblr.com > > with a collection of posters and more, which might > be of interest. > > Gerry > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mountain View Art & Wine Festival September 7-8, 10 AM - 6 PM both days http://www.miramarevents.com/mountainview/?view=featured Contact: Chamber of Commerce Mountain View, info at chambermv.org Speech Area Guidelines and Agreement: http://www.chambermv.org/pdf/2013-aw-freespeech.pdf Some important points are: * There is no fee. * A space is 6' x 6'. * Only 1 table no greater than 4' x 4' (card table size) is allowed. * Only 1 canopy (must not extend beyond space limits) is allowed. * No more than 2 chairs are allowed. * Bring your own equipment; none provided. * Check in before 9:30 AM on both days. Spaces are assigned when you check in on a first come/first served basis, so assigned space will likely change from Saturday to Sunday. * Start setting up no earlier than 8:30 AM and finish setting up no later than 9:45 AM each day. * Cleanup must be finished by 6:30 PM each day. * Anything left onsite overnight is at your own risk. * Moving or enlarging your display is not allowed. * No sales or solicitation of money. My own schedule for that weekend is up in the air right now, and I'm not volunteering to organize everything. However, I might be able to volunteer for an early (ending by 2 PM) Sunday shift if we have a space, and I'm trying to keep that time slot free in case I'm needed. I probably cannot volunteer on Saturday. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ "Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?" - from "The Summer Day" by Mary Oliver http://www.loc.gov/poetry/180/133.html ____________________________________________________________ 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52145eba83e655eb91a6cst01vuc From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Aug 21 17:35:07 2013 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: New Facebook Page Launched For Cal State Northridge Greens In-Reply-To: <201308212301.r7LN1vx2014216@mail.ucla.edu> References: <201308212301.r7LN1vx2014216@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <1377131707.95634.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: shane que hee To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:01 PM Subject: New Facebook Page Launched For Cal State Northridge Greens From: Edy Alvarez > >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:58:18 -0700 > >Subject: New Facebook Page Launched For Cal State Northridge Greens > > >Make sure to follow us on our new page as we continue building the Green Party in the San Fernando Valley! >? >https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cal-State-Northridge-Greens/620977534601005 >? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The two stories below, about using eminent domain to help people stay in their homes, describe what can happen when candidates like mayor Gayle McLaughlin and others in the Richmond Progressive Alliance pledge to run with no corporate money, get elected, and serve the people without having to toe the corporate line. > >Thanks, > >LAURA WELLS for CONTROLLER 2014 >LauraWellsSolutions.com >PublicBankingInstitute.org >510.225.4005? @LauraWellsCA >laurawells2014 at gmail.com > > >(1) > >Green Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin - Video of Interview on CNBC > > >(2) > >Wells Fargo locks out Richmond mayor at San Francisco headquarters >Mark Calvey >Senior Reporter - San Francisco Business Times >Bay Area BizTalk, August 15, 2013, updated August 16 >http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/2013/08/wells-fargo-richmond-mayor-protest.html > > >Wells Fargo locked its San Francisco headquarters branch at noon Thursday when Richmond Mayor Gayle McLaughlin and fellow protesters arrived to speak with CEO John Stumpf over the bank's lawsuit fighting the California city's plans to use eminent domain to seize underwater mortgages. > >Wells Fargo filed suit last week against Richmond in its role as a bond trustee, representing investors holding the securities backed by the Richmond mortgages. The bank argues that Richmond's plan to use eminent domain in this fashion is unconstitutional. > >As McLaughlin stood before Wells Fargo's locked doors today, she captured the frustration many feel today about the foreclosure crisis that persists even as San Francisco and other markets see a recovery in home prices. > >"Nothing has been done for the last five years or more. A fix is needed," she said. When a reporter asked whether the former school teacher, who was elected in 2006, ever thought she'd be taking on Wells Fargo, McLaughlin responded, "I feel right at home here with my community. I'm committed to taking a stand." > >She also said that almost 70 percent of Richmond residents are members of minority groups that were targeted with so-called predatory loans. > >Attending today's protest was Richmond homeowner Leonard Desmuke, who is current on his underwater mortgage but hopes to benefit from Richmond's plans to buy mortgages like his for less than today's face value of the underlying property. The city and its financial partner, San Francisco-based Mortgage Resolution Partners, would then refinance the loan at a much lower principal amount. > >The longshoreman said he's current on his $3,500 monthly mortgage, a payment that escalates at the end of the year. > >Last month's New York Times coverage of Richmond's plans painted a stark picture of Richmond's housing market. The story featured Richmond couple Robert and Patricia Castillo, who paid $420,000 for their three-bedroom home in 2005. Today, they estimate the home is worth just $125,000. > >In covering the banking industry, I have found that large banks appear eager to sidestep initiatives to address the foreclosure crisis at the local level, where they don't have the power and influence they enjoy at the federal level. > >What is clear, from what I hear from customers pursuing mortgage modifications, is that the foreclosure crisis is far from over. I hear from disgruntled customers who say the nation's largest banks are in disarray when it comes to handling mortgage modifications, often with one arm of the bank not knowing what's occurring at another area of the same institution. > >Even at Wells Fargo's (NYSE: WFC) annual shareholder meeting in Salt Lake City in April, Stumpf bragged that the bank has waived more mortgage principal than any other company in America. > >But later in the meeting's shareholder Q&A period, a representative working with troubled borrowers on modifications said things look very different from where he sits. He said Wells is the most difficult bank to work with in pursuing loan modifications. > >Thursday, the Richmond mayor said she had a message for the banks. > >"We're trying to take these troubled mortgages off your hands. Let us help you," McLaughlin said. > >The stakes are high as other cities, including Seattle, North Las Vegas, Nev. and Newark, N.J. are said to be following Richmond's eminent domain efforts to see whether they succeed in preventing foreclosures. > >As luck would have it, shortly after the mayor left, Wells Fargo executive Lisa Stevens walked past the bank's headquarters with security guard in tow. > >I asked her why Wells Fargo locked out the mayor of Richmond. Here's the exchange with the regional president of Wells Fargo's West Coast operations. > >"Lisa, why did Wells Fargo lock out the mayor of Richmond?" > >She smiled and asked, "Mark, how are you doing?" > >I said, "Fine thank you, but my question is one that our readers will be asking?" > >"You'll have to speak with Mike Billeci," she said, referring me to the San Francisco market president. > >Later Wells Fargo shared the following statement with me. > >"In order to protect the safety of our customers and team members, we take the precaution to lock the doors to our stores during protests," the bank said. "Wells Fargo representatives routinely meet with local elected officials, and have met with Mayor McLaughlin in the past regarding community concerns; representatives are open to doing so again in the future. > >"Wells Fargo, in its role as either servicer or as trustee, does not have the contractual authority to sell the loans that the city of Richmond has sought to purchase and believes the threatened use of the power of eminent domain to acquire the loans raises significant and troubling constitutional and other issues," the bank said. > >"Wells Fargo?s commitment to responsible lending and our work to help customers facing payment challenges, has resulted in a foreclosure rate of less than 1 percent of owner?occupied loans in our servicing portfolio over the past year," the bank said. "Wells Fargo has helped more than 870,000 customers with loan modifications and has extended more than $7 billion in principal forgiveness since January 2009." > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perrysandy at aol.com Wed Aug 21 18:33:17 2013 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Rodriguez Campaign Message-ID: <8D06CEEB6018949-4B0-62D4A@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> Hi Everyone, I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but I think the Luis Rodriguez statement below is cause for concern, especially the part at the beginning about using the Green Party campaign to build the Justice Party. I am not saying we should necessarily oppose the campaign, but I think we should be careful and thoughtful about how we proceed, and discuss this thoroughly tomorrow night. Sandy http://www.networkforrevolutionarychange.org/national/luis-rodriguez-to-run-for-governor-of-california/ From: Luis Javier Rodriguez To All Revolutionary Leaders,Activists and Organizers: Many already know I've launched anindependent campaign for governor of California in the 2014 elections. I sayindependent since this is going on regardless of what happens. But I hope it'san opportunity for the Justice Party to grow in California. Use the issues inthis campaign to get members, signatures, a possible ballot presence in thefuture. For now I will be trying to get the state's Green Party endorsement attheir state convention in November or December. I will also talk to the Peace& Freedom Party. My plan is to unite as many progressive party people tothis campaign. The Green Party endorsement will mean I can be on the ballot. Ihave many friends in the Green Party here in the San Fernando Valley. They havebeen pushing me to do this, knowing my ties to the Justice Party and my runwith Rocky Anderson for President last year as his vice-presidential candidate.This should also help the Greens -- I have no problem with that. But thecampaign is broader. The main issues I will be focusing on are: Poverty and theeconomy; the environment; prison reform; and the opening up of the democraticprocess. I will try to update everyone onthis campaign. I hope people understand that this is a different kind ofcampaign -- on the issues, solutions, strategies. Not tied to party politicsand intrigue. I'm not interested in any of that although I'm aware of all ofit. I invite anyone in California -- and elsewhere if they care to support --to be part of making history. To do something big. To bring progressive ideasto as many people as possible. I'm not interested in the intra-dynamic chattergoing on between activists about who's right, who's left, who's reallyprogressive, who's principled -- most of this is antagonistic and debilitating.I am, of course, in favor of an expanding dialogue, with respect to all, evenif we agree or disagree, on what we need to do and where we need to go. For me, however, our main principleis to be engrossed in the actual realties of the world we are in. We can't keeppulling ourselves away from our source, our mother, the American working classin all its variety, dangers, richness, and even backwardness. That's myconstituency. It's more difficult to work outside the chorus. But if done well,the results will be in favor of the Justice Party, the Greens, even, for a newCalifornia. A new America. My principles are solid enough towithstand the storms anyone of us will get for stepping up, for thinking big,for truly challenging the injustices and growing economic desperation of moreand more people. Please join with me. Write me at Luis J. Rodriguez, PO Box328, San Fernando CA 91341 or call 818-898-0013. With respect to all, Luis J. Rodriguez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vdf at juno.com Wed Aug 21 23:06:32 2013 From: vdf at juno.com (Valerie D. Face) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:06:32 GMT Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tabling possibility: Sept. 21, Cupertino Fall Festival Message-ID: <20130821.230632.11520.1@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Hi everyone, I got a response regarding the Cupertino Fall Festival. They don't have a Free Speech area, but they have non-profit booths for $50. They sent me the non-profit application form but it's too big for this list. If you want me to email a copy to you off-list please let me know. Cupertino Fall Festival September 21, 10 AM - 5 PM http://www.cupertino.org/index.aspx?page=1088 Contact: Cupertino Parks& Recreation, parks at cupertino.org Fees: * $50 for a 10' x 10' space without canopy, includes table and 2 chairs * $120 for a canopy, if needed * $50 for an electricity drop, 120v/7.5A, if needed Some important points are: * On the application you must list everything you're going to display at the festival, and you may display only those items. * No distribution of food items except for packaged candy. * You're responsible for your own security, insurance and manpower. * You're responsible for your own set up and clean up. * Set up must be completed by 9:00 AM and take down may not start until after 5:00 PM. My own schedule for that weekend is up in the air right now, and I'm not volunteering to organize everything. However, I might be able to volunteer for an early (ending by 2 PM) shift if we have a space. Best wishes, Valerie ~*~*~*~ "Tell me, what is it you plan to do with your one wild and precious life?" - from "The Summer Day" by Mary Oliver http://www.loc.gov/poetry/180/133.html ____________________________________________________________ 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5215aa90ee6ef2a907e1dst02vuc From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Aug 22 01:56:06 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:56:06 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Manning Verdict Commentary Message-ID: <5215D226.9090304@earthlink.net> If anyone you know does not see a problem with the Manning verdict, you might refer them to this article: "Global Progressive Community Reacts to Manning Sentence" "35 year sentence proves US will 'aggressively prosecute those who expose war crimes, and diligently protect those who commit them.'" http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/08/21-3 or to any of the many other articles at Common Dreams: http://www.commondreams.org/ Gerry From perrysandy at aol.com Thu Aug 22 09:26:46 2013 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Updated Proposed Agenda Message-ID: <8D06D6B8782ACBE-1A34-776DF@webmail-m253.sysops.aol.com> I added a couple of points and tried my best to put names by each agenda point. Sandy Proposed Agenda?August22, 2013 Green Party Meeting 7:00-7:30 Nospeaker has been proposed for this month. 7:30-7:40 Identifyfacilitator, note taker, vibes watcher, time keeper and agenda preparer. Introsand announcements. Additions or corrections to agenda. 7:40-8:00 HealthCare Committee report. Report on September 6 Health Care Movie showing withpanel discussion including a Green Party speaker. What members can do toincrease attendance. Prospects for building Green Party membership in thecourse of fighting for single payer health care. Caroline, Jim, Sandy. 8:00-8:15 Reporton August 3 Summer Heat Richmond march and other climate change activities.Gerry, people who attended Aug. 3. 8:15?8:20 Treasurerreport ? pass the hat. Jim 8:20-8:40 Reporton Luis Rodriguez campaign for governor and any local actions we should take.All. 8:40-8:50 Reporton tabling at Gay Pride and discussion or decisions about Gay Pride tablingfees as needed. John, Drew, others. 8:50-9:00 Reporton De Anza tabling and plans for club. Report on activity around Stop the Banin Palo Alto. Dana, Gerry, Sandy, Drew. 9:00-9:10 Marchto Heal the Valley. Proposal for Endorsement and participation. Sandy 9:10-9:20 Sept.tabling opportunities: Mountain View, Cupertino, Santa Clara, Morgan Hill. 9:20-9:30 Discussionand decisions as needed around issues connected with the GPSCC facebook page.Drew and all. 9:30 Adjourn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Thu Aug 22 10:58:56 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:58:56 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THURS AUG 22 GPSCC MEETING In-Reply-To: <5215629A.4070207@charter.net> References: <5215629A.4070207@charter.net> Message-ID: <52165160.6000403@charter.net> Sorry, original reply went only to Sandy. Should be for everyone. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THURS AUG 22 GPSCC MEETING Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:00:10 -0700 From: Wes Rolley To: perrysandy at aol.com I won't be able to attend the meeting, but I would like to comment on two agenda items. 8:20-8:40 Report on Luis Rodriguez campaign for governor and any local actions we should take. I am talking with the Rodriquez campaign org about working with them to help frame their positions on ecological issues: fracking, water, agriculture, etc. That is where I believe I can be most useful. 9:00-9:10 Discussion and decisions as needed around issues connected with the GPSCC facebook page. I think that we need to take personal feelings about facebook, zuckerberg, NSA etc. out of the discussion. The real question is "Who are you trying to reach?" Then, think about whether or not they are on faceook. If they are, we should be there also. Have a good meeting. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Thu Aug 22 12:22:59 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:22:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: Re: PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THURS AUG 22 GPSCC MEETING In-Reply-To: <52165160.6000403@charter.net> References: <5215629A.4070207@charter.net> <52165160.6000403@charter.net> Message-ID: <97caeec1b11505515620ec65b097d0bc.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> Wes, the FB questions have nothing to do with "personal feelings". If people don't know already, here are the facts: If you allow Facebook to sow their "cookies" Facebook cookies will tracks every page you visit from then on. Each and every page. In the movie "Terms and Conditions May Apply" details how under current U.S. legal practice by having a "third party" entity -- in this case FB -- do the surveillance for them the government is relieved of their constitutional responsibility to uphold our privacy rights(!?! -- yes that's what lawyers are saying about this currently). FB is truly in a partnership with the NSA to track activists. (Movie info avail. at http://tacma.net/information.php. The movie is playing right now on pivot.tv -- to find pivot.tv go to http://find.pivot.tv/ ). Also see the review http://www.blacklistednews.com/Documentary%3A_Terms_and_Conditions_May_Apply/28240/0/38/38/Y/M.html). Now there's certainly a debate to be had whether we should or should not bait our activists into this tracking by posting on FB and encouraging people to use FB. But it certainly has nothing to do with "personal feelings." A2K is a human right! Drew > Sorry, original reply went only to Sandy. Should be for everyone. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THURS AUG 22 GPSCC MEETING > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:00:10 -0700 > From: Wes Rolley > To: perrysandy at aol.com > > > > I won't be able to attend the meeting, but I would like to comment on > two agenda items. > > 8:20-8:40 Report on Luis Rodriguez campaign for governor and any local > actions we should take. > > I am talking with the Rodriquez campaign org about working with them to > help frame their positions on ecological issues: fracking, water, > agriculture, etc. That is where I believe I can be most useful. > > > 9:00-9:10 Discussion and decisions as needed around issues connected > with the GPSCC facebook page. > > I think that we need to take personal feelings about facebook, > zuckerberg, NSA etc. out of the discussion. The real question is "Who > are you trying to reach?" Then, think about whether or not they are on > faceook. If they are, we should be there also. > > Have a good meeting. > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Thu Aug 22 12:26:52 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:26:52 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Why Facebook is hazardous for activists (was: Re: PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THURS AUG 22 GPSCC MEETING) In-Reply-To: <97caeec1b11505515620ec65b097d0bc.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> References: <5215629A.4070207@charter.net> <52165160.6000403@charter.net> <97caeec1b11505515620ec65b097d0bc.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> Message-ID: Wes, the FB questions have nothing to do with "personal feelings". If people don't know already, here are the facts: If you allow Facebook to sow their "cookies" Facebook cookies will tracks every page you visit from then on. Each and every page. In the movie "Terms and Conditions May Apply" details how under current U.S. legal practice by having a "third party" entity -- in this case FB -- do the surveillance for them the government is relieved of their constitutional responsibility to uphold our privacy rights(!?! -- yes that's what lawyers are saying about this currently). FB is truly in a partnership with the NSA to track activists. (Movie info avail. at http://tacma.net/information.php. The movie is playing right now on pivot.tv -- to find pivot.tv go to http://find.pivot.tv/ ). Also see the review http://www.blacklistednews.com/Documentary%3A_Terms_and_Conditions_May_Apply/28240/0/38/38/Y/M.html). Now there's certainly a debate to be had whether we should or should not bait our activists into this tracking by posting on FB and encouraging people to use FB. But it certainly has nothing to do with "personal feelings." A2K is a human right! Drew > Sorry, original reply went only to Sandy. Should be for everyone. > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THURS AUG 22 GPSCC MEETING > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:00:10 -0700 > From: Wes Rolley > To: perrysandy at aol.com > > > > I won't be able to attend the meeting, but I would like to comment on > two agenda items. > > 8:20-8:40 Report on Luis Rodriguez campaign for governor and any local > actions we should take. > > I am talking with the Rodriquez campaign org about working with them to > help frame their positions on ecological issues: fracking, water, > agriculture, etc. That is where I believe I can be most useful. > > > 9:00-9:10 Discussion and decisions as needed around issues connected > with the GPSCC facebook page. > > I think that we need to take personal feelings about facebook, > zuckerberg, NSA etc. out of the discussion. The real question is "Who > are you trying to reach?" Then, think about whether or not they are on > faceook. If they are, we should be there also. > > Have a good meeting. > > -- > "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, > then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss From wrolley at charter.net Thu Aug 22 14:56:59 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:56:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Gutless Assemblyman Message-ID: <5216892B.7040909@charter.net> Part of Santa Clara County is in the Assembly District of Luis Alejo (of Salinas). He is chairman of the Assembly Committee on Environmental Safety & Toxic Materials. Assemblyman Alejo failed to even vote on a bill asking for a moratorium on fracking. Gutless Dem ... Had an email today from a member of the Dean Democratic Club that said they had just "ripped him a new A__H___." Since most of the district is in Monterey County, I wish that a Monterey County Green would run against him. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - Roberto Clemente From wrolley at charter.net Thu Aug 22 15:18:51 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:18:51 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tabling Update Message-ID: <52168E4B.7030202@charter.net> I had another discussion with Chamber of Commerce today. The information I was give yesterday was incorrect. The fee for our tabling would be $200. The fee for Democratic Club may be $150 as they are a "member" of the Chamber. 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In Year 1, we've trained and recruited 52 promotores that engaged 842 adults and children in the community. We increased Kinder readiness percentage of incoming kindergartners from 14% to 20%. Currently, our newly graduated promotores are on the ground recruiting new families and making home visits in the community. Our home visits have been immensely helpful in helping community members familiarize themselves with their neighbors and building the collective trust and support that we need in order to mobilize the community behind issues that affect Mayfair. From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Thu Aug 22 21:37:24 2013 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:37:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] August Meeting Minutes In-Reply-To: <8D06D6B8782ACBE-1A34-776DF@webmail-m253.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D06D6B8782ACBE-1A34-776DF@webmail-m253.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5216E704.6030905@prodsyse.com> On 8/22/2013 9:26 AM, perrysandy at aol.com wrote: > I added a couple of points and tried my best to put names by each > agenda point. Sandy > *Proposed Agenda---August 22, 2013 Green Party Meeting* > 7:00-7:30No speaker has been proposed for this month. > 7:30-7:40 Identify > facilitator: Sandy > note taker: Spencer > vibes watcher: Caroline > time keeper: John > and agenda preparer: Sandy > Intros and announcements: Several marches for Trayvon Martin- March Saturdayfor 50th anniversarywith contingent for Trayvon, Aug. 24 -- 9:30 AM from St. James & Second across from the Unitarian Church. Wed., Aug. 28, 11:45 AM, Tommy Smith & John Carlos statue on San Jose State: Real 50th anniversary of the March on Washington. Caroline is the acting treasurer for Jim. > . Additions or corrections to agenda. > 7:40-8:00 Health Care Committee report. Report on September 6 Health > Care Movie showing with panel discussion including a Green Party > speaker. What members can do to increase attendance. Prospects for > building Green Party membership in the course of fighting for single > payer health care. Caroline, Jim, Sandy. Need 2 people at a Green Party table at Seven Trees on Friday, September 6, 6:30 - 9 PM (need people there at 5:30 PM to setup): John & Andrea. (Caroline and Sandy have major roles in the event and won't be able to staff the table.) Will show "The Health Care Movie". Call Caroline to arrange a time to see it at her home. SG to produce a list of all Greens in the 95111 zip code area, send to Jim and Caroline. > 8:00-8:15 Report on August 3 Summer Heat Richmond march and other > climate change activities. Gerry, people who attended Aug. 3. Sandy and wife Andrea attended with many others. Caroline, Gerry, Dana, Tian (tian.greens.org for photos - second row, click on Richmond) Started at the BART station 2.5 miles from the Chevron refinery. Many marched to a park 0.5 miles from the BART station. Tian will draft a letter to Gayle McLaughlin, Mayor of Richmond, CA, thanking her for her leadership. Richmond Progressive Alliance has a web site with videos of attacks on Mayor McLaughlin (Green Party). > 8:15--8:20 Treasurer report -- pass the hat. Jim $1,309.88 balance. > 8:20-8:40 Report on Luis Rodriguez campaign for governor and any local > actions we should take. All. Ballot access starts 180 days before the election -- starts in December and runs through February. He needs something like 10,000 signatures to get on the ballot for free. Before Sept. 6, we need to schedule an event for him to speakafter Sept. 6, so thatthe event can be announced at the Sept. 6 event. Tian will contact him to see if he already has plans to be in or near here and what if anything we should do to support a presentation by him here. > 8:40-8:50 Report on tabling at Gay Pride and discussion or decisions > about Gay Pride tabling fees as needed. John, Drew, others. Jim to reimburse Drew $100 ($50 approved before hand plus $50 he collected and already gave to Jim). In addition, John gave $100 directly to Drew. Pete gave him $40; Tian also contributed. > 8:50-9:00 Report on De Anza tabling and plans for club. Report on > activity around Stop the Ban in Palo Alto. Dana, Gerry, Sandy, Drew. Sandy promised to organize a meeting on DeAnza, Friday, Sept. 27. > Palo Alto officially banned sleeping in one's vehicle. > 9:00-9:10March to Heal the Valley. Proposal for Endorsement and > participation. Sandy Marching from E. San Jos? to Apple & Google Oct. 7-11. Proposed: The Santa Clara Green party will endorse this march. Approved by consensus. > 9:10-9:20Sept. tabling opportunities: Mountain View, Cupertino, Santa > Clara, Morgan Hill. This Sunday, August 25, at Caroline's, any time after 9 AMto help organize materials for tabling. Mt. View, ~Castro St., free at the Free Speech area ($900 for vendors) Sept. 7 & 8, 10 AM - 6 PM. Tian will show up around noon, stay to the end and carry the stuff home. John volunteers for the morning of Sept. 7.Tian to contact Valerie. Cupertino, Sept. 21: Proposed: The Green Party buys a table for $50IF volunteers step forward to staff it. Consensus. Santa Clara: No volunteers. Morgan Hill, Sept. 28 & 29 - If Wes is willing to table, we should supportit, depending on the fee. > 9:20-9:30 Discussion and decisions as needed around issues connected > with the GPSCC facebook page. Drew and all. Caroline has volunteered to administrate the Facebook page for the Green Party of Santa Clara County. Tian will contribute, e.g, pictures. > 9:30Adjourn > // > // > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andi at wrytor.com Fri Aug 23 17:39:31 2013 From: andi at wrytor.com (Andrea Dorey) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:39:31 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: IT'S TIME TO WALK THE WALK AND TALK THE TALK... Message-ID: <7B8262C0-460E-4AA5-BFA6-3B67E67A2DFD@wrytor.com> THIS IS AN IMPORTANT EVENT FOR THE GREEN PARTY IN WHICH TO PARTICIPATE. PLEASE TRY TO APPEAR FOR JUST AN HOUR OR SO TO MARCH PROUDLY IN SUPPORT OF THE naacp AND HUMAN AND ECONOMIC RIGHTS FOR ALL! ADD TO OUR GREEN PARTY VISIBILITY IN LIGHT OF THE COMING ELECTION IN NOVEMBER! SEE YOU THERE? Best to all our brothers and sisters in green, Andrea Begin forwarded message: > From: Fred Hirsch > Date: August 22, 2013 2:35:26 PM PDT > To: Fred Hirsch > Subject: IT'S TIME TO WALK THE WALK AND TALK THE TALK (Please excuse duplicates) > > Fifty years ago, on the same day that a quarter of a million people marched in Washington for jobs, freedom and justice, we filled the streets of San Jose with a thousand marchers. It was our biggest march ever to that date. > We need to do it again to REALIZE THE DREAM! > BE THERE! > Fred Hirsch > > San Jose Celebrates the 50th Anniversary > of the March on Washington > > Join us on Saturday, August 24th, 2013 at 9:30 a.m. as we commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the Historic March on Washington. > Be a part of this country's history as we march for Jobs and Freedom! > > People from every corner of Santa Clara County are uniting for one momentous day, rallying for a shared message of civil liberty, civil rights, and economic freedom and opportunity for all. It is empowering and encompasses the ideals of the pioneers of the 1963 March, in that we have to stand up for our future and the future of this nation by empowering ourselves and our neighbors. > > Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. once said, > "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." > > > > WE BELIEVE everyone deserves the opportunity to achieve the American Dream - We will be addressing today's civil rights issues, including but not limited to: racial, social and economic injustice; workers' and LGBT rights as well as Common sense Immigration Reform, a secure job, a safe home, and a quality education. We seek to transcend our superficial differences and bring together people of all backgrounds in a common quest for equal opportunity and justice for all. > > March starts at 9:30 a.m. > > (please arrive at 9:00 a.m. so that we can > begin the march promptly at 9:30 am.) > Rally Point St. James Park at > St. James Street & Second Street, San Jose, CA. > March to Santa Clara County Building 70 W. Hedding Street, James P. McEntee Sr. Plaza > Recommend Parking at 70 W. Hedding Street and riding Light Rail Service to Rally Point at St. James Park - St. James Street & Second Street and March with us to County offices. (Free Parking at in Santa Clara County Parking Lots - 70 W. Hedding St., San Jose, CA.) > For more information, visit our site at http://www.sanjosenaacp.org/marchonwashington > or call 1-866-391-1112 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <201308240053.r7O0rsUH018694@mail.ucla.edu> References: <201308240053.r7O0rsUH018694@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <1377320888.3516.YahooMailNeo@web185304.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Would it be possible for us to go in on something like this with San Mateo or Alameda? ? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: shane que hee To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: More Green Party Candidates Confirmed for September 7th! From: Edy Alvarez > >Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 17:25:27 -0700 > >Subject: More Green Party Candidates Confirmed for September 7th! > > >Greening the Valley - A Celebration for Green Party Change >? >Join us in the San Fernando Valley at the home of Kimberly Lewis for an evening of music, fun, food, and speakers as we continue building on the successes of the Green Party. >? >*Keynote Speech by 2014 Green Party Candidate for Governor Luis Rodriguez > >Green Party Candidate's Panel for Statewide Office: >Laura Wells - Green Party Candidate for State Controller >Ellen Brown - Green Party Candidate for State Treasurer >David Curtis - Green Party Candidate for Secretary of State > >Additional Speeches by: >Michael Powelson - Green Party Candidate for Congress >Kevin Suscavage - Progressive Candidate for State Assembly >Lejuan Gibbons - Green Party Candidate for LA City Council > > >FREE ENTRANCE. INVITE YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY! >Suggested Donation: $5 dollars >Lots of street parking available. Children welcomed. >? >WHEN: Saturday, September 7th. >WHERE: 5910 Costello Avenue, Valley Glen 91401 > >TIME: 6-9pm >? >Yummy vegan food, drinks and sweets will be sold. >? >Featured Performances/Speeches by: >Bleu Skyes (Live music) >Cochino Daddy Band (playing Woody Guthrie covers) >Magdalena Murillo (performing poetry, singer) >Jesus Aguilar (performing poetry, singer) >Marlon Storm (performing on acoustic guitar, poet) >Luis Rivas (performing poetry) >Tim Morales (rapper) >Sandra Kyle (Speech on Progressive Politics) >David Klein (Speech on Global Warming) >? >Booths: >Vegan Corner by Stephanie Winnard >Label GMO's by Karen Mangini >Facebook Event Page: https://www.facebook.com/events/479816572108294/ >? > > >? >In Solidarity With: >-LA Progressive >-Greenpeace Southern California >-California Student Sustainability Coalition >-Progressive Democrats San Fernando Valley >-Green Party of Los Angeles County >-Ecosocialist Alliance >-Los Angeles 350.org >-Los Angeles Beyond Coal campaign >-Topanga Peace Alliance >-Los Angeles Valley College Eco-Advocates >-Los Angeles Valley College Socialists >-California State University Northridge Green Party >-California State University Northridge Sustainability Club >-Los Angeles County International Socialist Organization >-Los Angeles County Socialist Party >-League of Revolutionaries for a New America >-San Fernando Valley Green Party >-San Fernando Valley Socialists >-San Fernando Valley Label GMO's >-Occupy San Fernando Valley >-The Entertainment Industry Hunger Project >-Worldfest >? >Contact Edy Alvarez for more information: >valleycollegegreens at msn.com >818-336-2834 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Morgan Hill, Sept. 28 & 29 - If Wes is willing to table, we should support it, depending on the fee. __________________________________________________ So far there have been no volunteers for Cupertino. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: Jim Doyle To: sosfbay discussion group Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2013 8:17 pm Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Cupertino Fall Festival Key items from the application form are: The deadline for receipt of the $50 booth fee is Friday September 6-th. The Cupertino Fall Festival is on Saturday September 21-st from setup by 9 am to take down after 5 pm Will we have tablers there? If so I need to send the check soon. Jim Doyle _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Aug 25 14:55:48 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:55:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Windows 8 has NSA backdoors, Germans Report Says In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <521A7D64.40005@earthlink.net> What about other OSs? Apple? Unix? Linux? ??? Gerry Brian Good wrote: > The mainstream German weekly newspaper, Die Zeit, has obtained German > government > documents reporting on insecure features of Windows 8. > > http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/2013-08/trusted-computing-microsoft-windows-8-nsa > > > Government warns of Windows 8 > > Windows 8 is an unacceptable security risk for authorities and > companies, warn experts of the Government. The so-called trusted > computing was a backdoor for NSA. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sun Aug 25 15:09:11 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:09:11 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] March on Washington Message-ID: <521A8087.5000006@earthlink.net> Worse than I expected. "'New Jim Crow' Placards Seized by Police & More From the March on Washington" http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/08/25-0 "Based upon the speeches during the main portion of today?s events there can be little doubt that the Dr. King who was murdered in Memphis in 1968 would not have been allowed to speak at this fiftieth-anniversary commemoration of his life." Gerry From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Mon Aug 26 06:21:17 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:21:17 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Windows 8 has NSA backdoors, Germans Report Says In-Reply-To: <521A7D64.40005@earthlink.net> References: <521A7D64.40005@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5b4d9700372b29d9c0a30bdc2fa59caf.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> The whole marvelous thing about GNU/Linux and other FLOSS (Free/Libre Open Source Software) is that its development is entirely transparent. That's what makes it "free". Free as in freedom. Free from government and corporate proprietary "features" (better described defects from the freedom-loving, human rights-loving perspective) such as these backdoors. No proprietary OS (including Apple Mac OS X, proprietary Unix, every version of M$ Windows) can be trusted. Only FLOSS can be trusted. If anyone wants help with running some form of GNU/Linux, either I or one of my comrades in the FLOSS community can help you. Just ask. Green is FLOSS! Drew > What about other OSs? Apple? Unix? Linux? ??? > > Gerry > > > Brian Good wrote: >> The mainstream German weekly newspaper, Die Zeit, has obtained German >> government >> documents reporting on insecure features of Windows 8. >> >> http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/2013-08/trusted-computing-microsoft-windows-8-nsa >> >> >> Government warns of Windows 8 >> >> Windows 8 is an unacceptable security risk for authorities and >> companies, warn experts of the Government. The so-called trusted >> computing was a backdoor for NSA. > From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Mon Aug 26 06:39:18 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:39:18 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Windows 8 has NSA backdoors, Germans Report Says In-Reply-To: <5b4d9700372b29d9c0a30bdc2fa59caf.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> References: <521A7D64.40005@earthlink.net> <5b4d9700372b29d9c0a30bdc2fa59caf.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> Message-ID: <14d6cb26a3143bcd7b835f66f6308606.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> English translation of article: http://beforeitsnews.com/spies-and-intelligence/2013/08/german-government-warns-of-windows-8-backdoors-to-nsa-2445208.html > The whole marvelous thing about GNU/Linux and other FLOSS (Free/Libre Open > Source Software) is that its development is entirely transparent. That's > what makes it "free". Free as in freedom. Free from government and > corporate proprietary "features" (better described defects from the > freedom-loving, human rights-loving perspective) such as these backdoors. > > No proprietary OS (including Apple Mac OS X, proprietary Unix, every > version of M$ Windows) can be trusted. Only FLOSS can be trusted. If > anyone wants help with running some form of GNU/Linux, either I or one of > my comrades in the FLOSS community can help you. Just ask. > > Green is FLOSS! > > Drew > >> What about other OSs? Apple? Unix? Linux? ??? >> >> Gerry >> >> >> Brian Good wrote: >>> The mainstream German weekly newspaper, Die Zeit, has obtained German >>> government >>> documents reporting on insecure features of Windows 8. >>> >>> http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/2013-08/trusted-computing-microsoft-windows-8-nsa >>> >>> >>> Government warns of Windows 8 >>> >>> Windows 8 is an unacceptable security risk for authorities and >>> companies, warn experts of the Government. The so-called trusted >>> computing was a backdoor for NSA. > >> > > From rainbeaufriend at riseup.net Mon Aug 26 06:46:46 2013 From: rainbeaufriend at riseup.net (Drew) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:46:46 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Windows 8 has NSA backdoors, Germans Report Says In-Reply-To: <14d6cb26a3143bcd7b835f66f6308606.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> References: <521A7D64.40005@earthlink.net> <5b4d9700372b29d9c0a30bdc2fa59caf.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> <14d6cb26a3143bcd7b835f66f6308606.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> Message-ID: <96c8862bc5939927ff31f64ca0f78e75.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net> Clearer English discussion: http://investmentwatchblog.com/leaked-german-government-warns-key-entities-not-to-use-windows-8-links-the-nsa/ > English translation of article: > http://beforeitsnews.com/spies-and-intelligence/2013/08/german-government-warns-of-windows-8-backdoors-to-nsa-2445208.html > >> The whole marvelous thing about GNU/Linux and other FLOSS (Free/Libre >> Open >> Source Software) is that its development is entirely transparent. >> That's >> what makes it "free". Free as in freedom. Free from government and >> corporate proprietary "features" (better described defects from the >> freedom-loving, human rights-loving perspective) such as these >> backdoors. >> >> No proprietary OS (including Apple Mac OS X, proprietary Unix, every >> version of M$ Windows) can be trusted. Only FLOSS can be trusted. If >> anyone wants help with running some form of GNU/Linux, either I or one >> of >> my comrades in the FLOSS community can help you. Just ask. >> >> Green is FLOSS! >> >> Drew >> >>> What about other OSs? Apple? Unix? Linux? ??? >>> >>> Gerry >>> >>> >>> Brian Good wrote: >>>> The mainstream German weekly newspaper, Die Zeit, has obtained German >>>> government >>>> documents reporting on insecure features of Windows 8. >>>> >>>> http://www.zeit.de/digital/datenschutz/2013-08/trusted-computing-microsoft-windows-8-nsa >>>> >>>> >>>> Government warns of Windows 8 >>>> >>>> Windows 8 is an unacceptable security risk for authorities and >>>> companies, warn experts of the Government. The so-called trusted >>>> computing was a backdoor for NSA. >> >>> >> >> > > From perrysandy at aol.com Mon Aug 26 12:49:39 2013 From: perrysandy at aol.com (perrysandy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Priced Out of the Valley - Federal Cuts Devastate Section 8 Tenants Message-ID: <8D070AC891FA035-E64-14613@webmail-d163.sysops.aol.com> Hi Everyone, Please take a look at this new video released today by Silicon Valley DeBug. 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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:29:34 +0000 From: Jay Carmona - 350.org Reply-To: organizers at 350.org To: Wesley Rolley Friends, Tomorrow, the Santa Clara Valley Water District will decide whether or not they'll divest the District's funds from fossil fuels. TODAY is the day to tell the Board you support divestment. *Click here to send them a quick letter.* Divestment from fossil fuels is just one tactic in solving the climate crisis, and the Santa Clara Valley Water District is just one public institution. But we need all our public institutions to take a stand on this issue: if it's wrong to wreck the climate, then it's wrong to profit from that wreckage. If Santa Clara Valley can take a stand today, other public institutions will follow. It's time for Santa Clara Valley to lead, and you can be a part of that right now. *Tell your water district to divest from fossil fuels today.* It's the right thing to do, and it makes good financal sense for the county. Thanks, Jay ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 350.org is building a global movement to solve the climate crisis. Connect with us on Facebook and Twitter , and sign up for email alerts . You can help power our work by getting involved locally, sharing your story , and donating here. To change your email address or update your contact info, click here. / To stop receiving emails from 350.org, click here. / -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wrolley at charter.net Mon Aug 26 17:54:24 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 17:54:24 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Over Troubled Waters Message-ID: <521BF8C0.2010304@charter.net> I have 2 copies of Restore the Delta's documentary, Over Troubled Waters. It is in DVD format. I have it running on my Toshiba Laptop now. It is narrated by Ed Begley Jr. We are trying to set up some viewings in Morgan Hill / Gilroy in conjunction with AAUW, etc. I would like to get the other copy to Caroline Yacoub to use in the North / Central Santa Clara County. All I would ask is that we have an accounting of how many times it is shown and how many people saw it. Caroline, send me your snail mail address off list and I will mail it to you. -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Aug. 27) meeting and it is on the agenda... item 9.1 from which I quote: A.Discuss and adopt specified policy recommendation to the Board's Governance Process Policy, GP-1; B.Discuss and adopt a new Executive Limitation Policy, EL-4.9.3, to include a Climate Divestment Investment Restriction; C.Approve amendment to the Santa Clara Valley Water District Board Investment Policy to include a Climate Divestment Investment Restriction; and D.Discuss and adopt Glossary definition for "customer" and replace the term "consumer" with "customer" in the policies specified. Meeting details:* * *DISTRICT HEADQUARTERS - BOARD ROOM * *5700 ALMADEN EXPRESSWAY * *SAN JOSE, CA95118* *Tuesday, August 27, 2013* *6:00 PM* -- "Anytime you have an opportunity to make things better and you don't, then you are wasting your time on this Earth" - /Roberto Clemente/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnharter at aceweb.com Tue Aug 27 12:14:41 2013 From: tnharter at aceweb.com (Tian Harter) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:14:41 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] =?windows-1252?q?=93TIME_FOR_A_RAISE=94_TOWN_HALL_ME?= =?windows-1252?q?ETING?= Message-ID: <521CFAA1.1010808@aceweb.com> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE AUGUST 16, 2013 Contact: Andrea Dorey Mobile Phone: (408) 306-1900 Email: andi at wrytor.com ?MEDIA ADVISORY? LOCAL POLITICIANS INVITED TO URGENT TOWN HALL MEETING ON CITIZEN DEMANDS FOR IMMEDIATE FEDERAL MINIUMUM-WAGE INCREASE SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA ? Representatives ANNA ESHOO, MIKE HONDA, and ZOE LOFGREN have been urged to attend a Town Hall Meeting about the 30 million workers?10 million men and 20 million women?who earn less than workers did over 45 years ago. While productivity has doubled since 1960, the minimum-wage remains stagnant at $7.25 per hour. Only one bill in Congress comes close to what is deserved: HR 1346 authored by Rep. Alan Grayson asks for $10.50 per hour. This demand for economic justice by 70% of citizenry is part of the TIME FOR A RAISE movement across America (www.timeforaraise.org). ?We must also stop the tragic loss of wages,? insists 9to5 Bay Area Chairperson Daislyn Pease, ?by indexing the $10.50 minimum-wage to inflation. Never again should American workers struggle just to feed and house their families.? ?TIME FOR A RAISE? TOWN HALL MEETING WHO: Representatives ESHOO, HONDA, LOFGREN WHAT: ?Time For a Raise? to $10.50/hour August 31st ? 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. WHEN: WHERE: Alum Rock Library, 3090 Alum Rock Avenue, San Jose, CA 95127 WHY: ?A fair day's pay for a fair day's work? Members of the Press are advised to arrive at 1:15 p.m. to set up for possible interviews with invited representatives and interested progressive leaders. Sponsored by 9to5 Bay Area Chapter 9to5 Bay Area office, 2302 Zanker Rd, San Jose, CA 95135 For more information call 408-432-6044 ? see website www.9to5CA.org From rob.means at electric-bikes.com Wed Aug 28 11:02:38 2013 From: rob.means at electric-bikes.com (Rob Means) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 11:02:38 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] article to run in Milpitas Post on Sept. 6 Message-ID: <521E3B3E.7060205@electric-bikes.com> Other Voices article If we look to the federal government to solve our problems, we may have a long wait ahead of us. That's because the Republicans in both the House and Senate have stalled and subverted all Democratic attempts at change that would help working families. In a time when we are surrounded by economic, environmental, and social crises that demand change, the federal government is gridlocked. It truly is remarkable that, on the night of President Obama's 2009 inauguration, the most powerful Republicans in Washington gathered to plot a strategy to ensure that the President and the Democratic Party accomplish nothing, or at least very little. In his book "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives", Robert Draper describes the night that began Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's recode of nearly 300 filibusters since then. Roughly 200 occurred during the two years when Democrats controlling Congress sent over lots of good legislation to the Senate for approval. The Senate GOP also held up 79 of the President's picks for the U.S. Circuit Court and Courts of Appeal for no good reason. Senate Democrats, and even a few Republicans, did pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill. It stalled in the Republican-controlled House when, in a closed-door meeting, House Republicans basically refused to bring the Senate's immigration reform bill up for a vote. With so much time on their hands NOT passing good legislation, what are the Republicans doing? They have been working to repeal what little the Democrats accomplished in 2009 and 2010. Obamacare was passed so that more Americans could have access to lifesaving healthcare at affordable costs, but Republicans have tried 40 times to repeal it. Republicans voted to cut billions in spending from the SNAP food stamps program which, over 10 years, would result in nearly 3 million Americans losing food assistance and the ability to adequately feed themselves. Statistically, this is ?screw the kids?. (Children represent a disproportionate share of the poor in the United States; they are 24 percent of the total population, but 36 percent of the poor population.) Since 2007, the foreclosure crisis has displaced at least 10 million people from more than four million homes across the country. In response, Republicans have repeatedly screwed the homeless by cutting funding to homeless shelters and blocking legislation to help homeless veterans. According to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, the Republican-driven sequester has pushed as many as 140,000 more American households into homelessness. Republicans also spent time on abortion bills, phony ?scandals?, and budgetary hostage taking (both budget ceiling and sequester types are explained in a brief article at http://snipurl.com/27mhrz2). And Republicans are getting better at their obstruction! In 2013, during the first 6 months, Congress has only passed 15 bills that were signed into law. This is 8 fewer than in the first 6 months of 2012 and 19 fewer than 2011. At one level, you could say ?man, those guys play some serious hardball.? At another level, say the level of patriotic support for one's country, or a longing for the common good, another response is evoked. Mine is to speak out against a Republican strategy that kills job growth, stops aid to small businesses, hurts women?s ability to gain equal pay for equal work, and cuts benefits for seniors and veterans. If most of this information is new to you, perhaps your news comes from one of the six corporations - Time Warner, Disney, News Corporation, Viacom, Comcast, and CBS ? that control roughly 90% of the media in the U.S. and have a self-interest in ignoring real news and dishing out infotainment instead. (To be better informed, watch Amy Goodman's ?Democracy Now?, Thom Hartmann's ?The Big Picture?, or Bill Moyers' ?Moyers & Company?.) Washington has served the rich these past 30 years while turning its back on the middle class. The US political economy has been trending toward greater inequality and poverty and a diminished capacity to respond democratically to meet the social, economic and environmental challenges we face. So, what do we do to restore our democracy and rebuild the American dream? Do like the City of Milpitas! Do what you can with the resources you have. For example, to help residents transition away from carbon fuels, make it easier for homeowners to install solar panels. Grease the skids of the permit process. And do such a good job of it that the State of California recognizes and honors your City. Thank you city leaders and staff who made this happen. Bless you. And keep up the good work. -- Rob Means,1421 Yellowstone Ave., Milpitas, CA 95035-6913 408-262-0420h, 408-262-8975w, rob.means at electric-bikes.com ---------------------------------------------------------- From wrolley at charter.net Wed Aug 28 16:33:28 2013 From: wrolley at charter.net (Wes Rolley) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:33:28 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fwd: News from Restore the Delta In-Reply-To: <1114702803673.1102037578231.100.8.4618451D@scheduler.constantcontact.com> References: <1114702803673.1102037578231.100.8.4618451D@scheduler.constantcontact.com> Message-ID: <521E88C8.4060400@charter.net> Having trouble viewing this email? Click here This is an important update regarding how the State of CA, in particular the Department of Water Resources (DWR) is being duplicitous in the waythat they are presenting their socalled Bay Delta Conservation Plan. It is, in reality, setting up the entire Delta region to become a victim of sea level rise. They have given up on preserving anything inthe Delta and are planning to take water under neath what used to be farms and communities and businesses just to deliver to users further South. Wes -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From snug.bug at hotmail.com Wed Aug 28 16:53:09 2013 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:53:09 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] HOUSING RALLY AT San Jose CITY HALL 12 NOON THURS. AUG. 29 In-Reply-To: References: <002b01cea40f$bd327b70$37977250$@org>, Message-ID: Important Rally about lack of housing in SCC. http://www.sanjosepeace.org/calendar_event.php?eid=20130822174302211 HOUSING CUTS CRUSH THE POOR - SPEAK OUT AT 12 NOON ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 29Tenants and their allies will take action against devastating rent increases caused by the Federal government sequester at 12 noon on Thursday, August 29 at San Jose City Hall. Some 17,000 tenants on the Federal Section 8 housing program in Santa Clara County recently received rent hikes of 10% or more due to draconian cuts caused by the government stalemate in Washington. Some families have received astonishing increases of $900 or more. 57% of Section 8 voucher holders in Santa Clara County are seniors or disabled and 61% are on fixed incomes. There is simply no way they can afford rent increases of this magnitude. In many cases the result will be homelessness, dislocation, and destruction of families. The government is further threatening to continue to do nothing, which will result in additional unbearable cuts next year.Local congressmembers have been invited to attend and receive the petitions of the tenants. Tenants are calling for immediate reversal of the sequester and allocation of adequate affordable housing funds to meet the needs of the American people. According to our constitution, the role of government is to promote the general welfare of the people, not the private benefit of corporations. Silicon Valley is the richest area in the richest country in the world, and we are richer now than ever before in our history. There is nothing except shortsightedness to prevent us from taking care of our most vulnerable people. There is nothing but a lack of social vision to prevent us from putting the needs of our residents before tax breaks for corporations. There is nothing, except a tragic moral blindness, that prevents us from paying attention to the human suffering going on right here in our own community. JUST SAY NO TO OUTRAGEOUS RENT INCREASES FOR SECTION 8!SEND CONGRESS A MESSAGE: REVERSE THE SEQUESTER, HOUSE YOUR PEOPLE! TIME: 12 NOON THURSDAY AUGUST 29PLACE: SAN JOSE CITY HALL, WEST PLAZA, FOURTH AND SANTA CLARA STREET, SAN JOSE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carolineyacoub at att.net Wed Aug 28 18:10:50 2013 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Greening the Valley - A Celebration for Green Party Change. Saturday, September 7th 6-9pm. (More Candidates Confirmed) In-Reply-To: <201308282114.r7SLEVTo007881@mail.ucla.edu> References: <201308282114.r7SLEVTo007881@mail.ucla.edu> Message-ID: <1377738650.81683.YahooMailNeo@web185302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: shane que hee To: Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:14 PM Subject: Greening the Valley - A Celebration for Green Party Change. Saturday, September 7th 6-9pm. (More Candidates Confirmed) From: Edy Alvarez >Subject: Greening the Valley - A Celebration for Green Party Change.Saturday, September 7th 6-9pm. (More Candidates Confirmed) >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:46:53 -0700 > >*Please forward this to your extended activist network. Consider bringing your family or activist friends who would not normally attend a Green Party event. >? >*Entrance will be free but we are asking for a $5 donation (No one will be turned away for lack of funds). Please bring money as this event is a fundraiser for Green Party movement building and we need to pay for the food, speakers, and table/chair rentals. Checks will be accepted. > > >Greening the Valley - A Celebration for Green Party Change >? >Join us in the San Fernando Valley at the home of Kimberly Lewis for an evening of music, fun, food, and speakers as we continue building on the successes of the Green Party. >? >*Keynote Speech and Poetry Reading by 2014 Green Party Candidate for Governor and author of "Always Running: La Vida Loca, Gang Days in LA" Luis Rodriguez > >Green Party Candidate's Panel for Statewide Office: >Laura Wells - Green Party Candidate for State Controller >Ellen Brown - Green Party Candidate for State Treasurer >David Curtis - Green Party Candidate for Secretary of State > >Additional Speeches by: >Michael Powelson - Green Party Candidate for Congress >Kevin Suscavage - Progressive Candidate for State Assembly >Lejuan Gibbons - Green Party Candidate for LA City Council > > >FREE ENTRANCE. INVITE YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY! >Suggested Donation: $5 dollars >Lots of street parking available. Children welcomed. >? >WHEN: Saturday, September 7th. >WHERE: 5910 Costello Avenue, Valley Glen 91401 (Near LA Valley College). >TIME: 6-9pm > >Yummy vegan food, drinks and sweets will be sold. >? >Featured Performances/Speeches by: >Bleu Skyes (Live music) >Cochino Daddy Band (playing Woody Guthrie covers) >Magdalena Murillo (performing poetry, singer) >Jesus Aguilar (performing poetry, singer) >Marlon Storm (performing on acoustic guitar, poet) >Luis Rivas (performing poetry) >Sandra Kyle (Speech on Progressive Politics) >David Klein (Speech on Global Warming) >? >Booths: >Vegan Corner by Stephanie Winnard >Label GMO's by Karen Mangini >? >If you would like to have a booth, the fee will be $10 dollars. Table, food and 1 chair will be provided. >Facebook Event Page: https://www.facebook.com/events/479816572108294/ >? > > >? >Contact Edy Alvarez for more information: >valleycollegegreens at msn.com >818-336-2834 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Wed Aug 28 18:12:19 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 18:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Protests against the impending US bombing of Syria Message-ID: <1377738739.49889.YahooMailNeo@web122902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> No U.S. war on Syria! ? Americans don't want yet another war ? There is no Congressional authorization for the use of US military force ? There is no United Nations authorization for the use of military force ? War will only increase the death toll, suffering, and displacement Rally against war on Syria Thursday, August 29, 4-5 pm: Office of Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren 635 North First Street, Suite B San Jose, CA 95112 Tell Congresswoman Lofgren to take a stand against U.S. military action! Friday, August 30, 5-6 pm: Friday Peace Vigil Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Library Corner of San Fernando and Fourth Streets San Jose, CA 95112 Saturday, August 31, 11:30 am - 2 pm Sunday, September 1, 11:30 am - 2 pm Stevens Creek and Winchester Boulevards San Jose / Santa Clara, CA Monday, September 2, 5-6 pm South end of C?sar Ch?vez Plaza Market and San Carlos Streets San Jose, CA San Jos? Peace and Justice Center, Friday Peace Vigil, South Bay Committee Against Political Repression http://sanjosepeace.org 408-297-2299 - "If we do not act, we shall surely be dragged down the long, dark, and shameful corridors of time reserved for those who possess power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight." Martin Luther King, Jr., "A Time to Break Silence," April 4, 1967 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Wed Aug 28 19:44:23 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Letter From Congress To Obama Re: War Powers Authorization Needed Before Attacking Syria In-Reply-To: References: <14708455.1377672113526.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1377744263.53049.YahooMailNeo@web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> This is a transcription of the letter from Congress to Obama as printed out at Zoe Lofgren's office Wednesday, August 28th, 2013 at 4:45PM PST. John Thielking ***************************************** Congress of the United States Washington, DC 20515 August 28th, 2013 The President The White House Washington DC 20500 Dear Mr President, We strongly urge you to consult and receive authorization from Congress before ordering the use of US military force in Syria. Your responsibility to do so is prescribed in the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution of 1973. While the Founders wisely gave the Office of the President the authority to act in emergencies, they foresaw the need to ensure public debate -- and the active engagement of Congress -- prior to committing US military assets. Engaging our military in Syria when no direct threat to the United States exists and without prior congressional authorization would violate the separation of powers that is clearly delineated in the Constitution. Mr. President, in the case of military operations in Libya you stated that authorization from Congress was not required because our military was not engaged in "hostilities." In addition, an April 1, 2011, memorandum to you from your Office of Legal Counsel concluded: "...President Obama could rely on his constitutional? power to safeguard the national interest by directing the anticipated military operations in Libya --- which were limited in their nature, scope and duration --- without prior congressional authorization." We view the precedent this option sets, where "national interest" is enough to engage in hostilities without congressional authorization, as unconstitutional. If the use of 221 Tomahawk cruise missiles, 704 Joint Direct Attack Munitions, and 42 Predator Hellfire missiles expended in Libya does not constitute "hostilities", what does? If you deem that military action in Syria is necessary, Congress can reconvene at your request.? We stand ready to come back into session, consider the facts before us, and share the burden of decisions made regarding US involvement in the quickly escalating Syrian conflict. Sincerely, Rep. Scott Rigell (VA-02) Rep. Matt Salmon (AZ-05) Rep. Mo Brooks (AL-05) Rep. Scott Garrett (NJ-05) Rep. Tom McClintock (CA-04) Rep. Tom Marino (PA-10) Rep. Dan Benishek (MI-01) Rep. Tom Rooney (FL-17) Rep. Steve Pearce (NM-02) Rep. Tim Griffin (AR-02) Rep. Justin Amash (MI-03) Rep. Raul Labrador (ID-01) Rep. Joseph Pitts (PA-16) Rep. Trent Franks (AZ-08) Rep. John Campbell (CA-45) Rep. Paul Gosat (AZ-04) Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (GA-03) Rep. Joe Wilson (SC-02) Rep. Charles Boustany (LA-03) Rep. Tom Cole (OK-04) Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX-01) Rep. Austin Scott (GA-08) Rep. Bill Posey (FL-08) Rep. Randy Forbes (VA-04) Rep. Phil Gingrey (GA-11) Rep. David Roe (TN-01) Rep. Mark Sanford (SC-01) Rep. John J. Duncan, Jr. (TN-02) Rep. Reid Ribble (WI-08) Rep. James Lankford (OK-05) Rep. Bill Cassidy (LA-06) Rep. Stephen Fincher (TN-08) Rep. Trey Radel (FL-19) Rep. Chris Stewart (UT-02) Rep. Lynn Jenkins (KS-02) Rep. Jeff Duncan (SC-03) Rep. David McKinley (WV-01) Rep. Gus Bilirakis (FL-12) Rep. Joseph Heck (NV-03) Rep. Dennis Ross (FL-15) Rep. Billy Long (MO-07) Rep. Randy Hultgren (IL-14) Rep Steven Palazzo (MS-04) Rep. Kevin Yoder (KS-03) Rep. Doug collins (GA-09) Rep. Beto O'Rourke (TX-16) Rep. Zoe Lofgren (CA-19) Rep Peter DeFargio (OR-04) Rep. Kurt Schrder (OR-5) Rep. Rush Holt (NJ-12) Rep. William Enyart (IL-12) Rep. Timothy Walz (MN-01) Rep. Christopher Gibson (NY-19) Rep. Trey Gowdy (SC-04) Rep. Frank Wolf (VA-10) Rep. Michael Capuano (MA-07) Rep. Michael Simpson (ID-02) Rep. Michael McCaul (TX-10) Rep. Thomas E. Petri (WI-06) Rep. Robert Pittenger (NC-09) Rep. Walter Jones (NC-03) Rep. Tom Latham (IA-03) Rep. Richard Nolan (MN-08) Rep. Jim McDermott (WA-07) Rep. Kerry Bentivolico (MI-11) Rep. Mike Coffman (CO-06) Rep. Sean Duffy (WI-07) Rep. Bruce Braley (LA-01) Rep. Morgan Griffith (VA-09) Rep. Brad Wenstrup (OH-02) Rep. Mark Amodei (NV-02) Rep. Roger Williams (TX-25) Rep. Doug LaMalfa (CA-01) Rep. Brett Guthrie (KY-02) Rep. Sam Farr (CA-20) Rep. Steve Daines (MT-At Large) Rep. Robert Hurt (VA-05) Rep. Steve Southerland, II (FL-2) Rep. Michelle Bachmann (MN-06) Rep. Ralph Hall (TX-04) Rep. Randy Neugebauer (TX-19) Rep. Robert Wittman (VA-01) Rep. Anna Eshoo (CA-18) Rep. David Schweikert (AZ-06) Rep. Todd Rokita (IN-4) Rep. David Loebsack (LA-02) Rep. Scott Tipton (CO-03) Rep. Frank LoBiondo (NJ-02) Rep. Earl Blumenauer (OR-03) Rep. Sam Johnson (TX-03) Rep. Tom Price (GA-06) Rep. Mark Meadows (NC-11) Rep. Paul Broun (GA-10) Rep. Markwayne Mullin (OK-02) Rep. Steve Stockman (TX-36) Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner (WI-05) Rep. Chris Collins (NY-27) Rep. Diane Black (TN-06) Rep. Daniel Webster (FL-10) Rep. Peter Welch (VT) Rep. Lou Barletta (PA-11) Rep. Tim Murphy (PA-18) Rep. Gregg Harper (MS-03) Rep. Jim Jordan (OH-04) Rep. Ted S. Yoho (FL-03) Rep. Bill Flores (TX-17) Rep. Michael Burgess (TX-26) Rep. Jim Matheson (UT-04) Rep. Cory Gardner (CO-04) Rep. Alan Nunnelee (MS-01) Rep. Jason Smith (MO-08) Rep. 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URL: From pagesincolor at yahoo.com Wed Aug 28 20:03:55 2013 From: pagesincolor at yahoo.com (John Thielking) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: Please stand up against U.S. plans for military strike on Syria In-Reply-To: <14708455.1377672113526.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14708455.1377672113526.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1377745435.24572.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> A little bit of background on how this plan to protest the war on Syria developed last night: ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "masao suzuki " To: Masao Suzuki Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:41 PM Subject: Please stand up against U.S. plans for military strike on Syria Dear Friends and Supporters: Nearly three years ago, on September 24, 2010, the FBI began a series of raids on the homes of antiwar and international solidarity activists in Minneapolis and Chicago, and on the office of the Minneapolis/Saint Paul Anti War Committee.? In all, a total of 23 people were subpoenaed to a Federal Grand Jury.? What bound these activists together is that they had helped to organize a large antiwar protest at the 2008 Republican National Convention in Saint Paul, Minnesota. This political repression led to the formation of the national Committee to Stop FBI Repression (CSFR).? Here in the South Bay, a local activist, Masao Suzuki, was also visited by the FBI as part of the raids and subpoenas in the Midwest.? We formed the South Bay Committee Against Political Repression (SBCAPR) as part of the CSFR to oppose repression of antiwar and international solidarity activists.? We in the SBCAPR also fought to keep long-time Chicano community and antiwar activist Carlos Montes out of jail after his home was raided and he was arrested by LA sheriffs in May of 2011. ? Last Sunday, August 25, the SBCAPR organized a program with Carlos Montes and also Charlie Trujillo, a local Vietnam War veteran and author of Soldados.? Both Montes and Trujillo stressed the need to oppose U.S. plans to launch a military strike on Syria, pointing out that the United States had a long history of making up reasons to start wars. At our meeting tonight, Tuesday, August 27th, our committee had a lengthy discussion about the drumbeat in the media on the need to attack Syria, and decided that we would urge all of our friends and supporters to express their opposition to another U.S. war in the Middle East and stand up against a U.S. military strike on Syria.? We ask you to attend any or all the following antiwar events in San Jose in the next few days, and to bring signs and any friends: Wednesday, August 28, 4 to 5 pm, Congressperson Zoe Lofgren?s office, 634 North 1st Street between George and Jackson. Thursday, August 29, 4 to 5 pm, Congressperson Zoe Lofgren?s office, 634 North 1st Street between George and Jackson. Friday, August 30, 5 to 6 pm, MLK, Jr. Library, corner of 4th and San Fernando. Saturday, August 31, 11:30 am to 2 pm, corner of Stevens Creek and Winchester. Sunday, September 1, 11:30 am to 2 pm, corner of Stevens Creek and Winchester. Monday, September 2, 5-6 pm, Market and San Carlos. As we remember the anniversary of the August 28, 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, let us not forget the message of Dr. King who opposed the U.S. war in Vietnam: ? "We must most past indecision to action.? We must find new ways to speak for peace in Vietnam and justice throughtout the dveloping world - a world the borders on our doorrs.? If we do not act, we shall surely be dragged down the long, dark, and shameful corridors of time reserved for those who possess power without compassion, might without morality, and strength without sight." Martin Luther King, Jr., "A Time to Break Silence," April 4, 1967. My apologies for any repeat emails. 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Congress of the United States Washington, DC 20515 August 29, 2013 President Barack Obama 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W. Washington, DC 20500 Dear Mr. President, We join you and the international community in expressing unequivocal condemnation over the news that chemical weapons were reportedly used by the government of Syria. While we understand that as Commander in Chief you have a constitutional obligation to protect our national interests from direct attack, Congress has the constitutional obligation and power to approve military force, even if the United States or its direct interests (such as its embassies) have not been attacked or threatened with an attack. As such, we strongly urge you to seek an affirmative decision of Congress prior to committing any US military engagement to this complex crisis. While the ongoing human rights violations and continued loss of life are horrific, they should not draw us into an unwise war --- especially without adhering to our own constitutional requirements. We strongly support the work within the United Nations Security Council to build international consensus condemning the alleged use of chemical weapons and preparing an appropriate response; we should also allow the UN inspectors the space and time necessary to do their jobs, which are so crucial to ensuring accountability. As elected officials, we have a duty to represent the will and priorities of our constituents, consistent with the Constitution we all swore to uphold and defend. Before weighing the use of military force, Congress must fully debate and consider the facts and every alternative, as well as determine how best to end the violence and protect civilians. We stand ready to work with you. Sincerely, Barbara Lee, Member Of Congress Lois Capps, Member Of Congress Michael Honda, Member Of Congress Zoe Lofgren, Member Of Congress Jackie Speier, Member Of Congress John Lewis, Member Of Congress Robin Kelly, Member Of Congress Raul M. Grijalva, Member Of Congress Beter Welch, Member Of Congress Stephen F. Lynch, Member Of Congress Lloyd Doggett, Member Of Congress Janice Hahn, Member Of Congress Beto O'Rourke, Member Of Congress Peter Defazio, Member Of Congress Mark Pocan, Member Of Congress Michael Michaud, Member Of Congress Chellie Pingree, Member Of Congress Nydia Velazquez, Member Of Congress Jared Huffman, Member Of Congress Sam Farr, Member Of Congress Tulsi Gabbard, Member Of Congress Rush Holt, Member Of Congress Jim McDermott, Member Of Congress Eddie Bernice Johnson, Member Of Congress George Miller, Member Of Congress Robert C. ?Bobby? Scott, Member Of Congress Marcy Kaptur, Member Of Congress James P. McGovern, Member Of Congress Emanuel Cleaver, Member Of Congress Sheila Jackson-Lee, Member Of Congress Suzanne Bonamici, Member Of Congress Jose E Serrano, Member Of Congress Donna F Edwards, Member Of Congress Steve Cohen, Member Of Congress Alcee L. Hastings, Member Of Congress Danny K. Davis, Member of Congress Marcia L. Fudge, Member Of Congress Judy Chu, Member Of Congress Bobby Rush, Member Of Congress Dave Loebsack, Member of Congress Jan Schakowsky, Member Of Congress Yvette Clarke, Member Of Congress Rick Nolan, Member Of Congress Eleanor Holmes Norton, Member Of Congress Charles Rangel, Member Of Congress Alan Lowenthal, Member Of Congress Donna M. Christensen, Member Of Congress Carolyn Maloney, Member Of Congress Henry Waxman, Member Of Congress Diana Degette, Member Of Congress Keith Ellison, Member Of Congress Niki Tsongas, Member Of Congress John Yarmuth, Member Of Congress Julia Brownley, Member Of Congress (54 Members of Congress total) ________________________________ From: John Thielking To: Donna Wallach ; Greens Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:44 PM Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Letter From Congress To Obama Re: War Powers Authorization Needed Before Attacking Syria This is a transcription of the letter from Congress to Obama as printed out at Zoe Lofgren's office Wednesday, August 28th, 2013 at 4:45PM PST. John Thielking ***************************************** Congress of the United States Washington, DC 20515 August 28th, 2013 The President The White House Washington DC 20500 Dear Mr President, We strongly urge you to consult and receive authorization from Congress before ordering the use of US military force in Syria. Your responsibility to do so is prescribed in the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution of 1973. While the Founders wisely gave the Office of the President the authority to act in emergencies, they foresaw the need to ensure public debate -- and the active engagement of Congress -- prior to committing US military assets. Engaging our military in Syria when no direct threat to the United States exists and without prior congressional authorization would violate the separation of powers that is clearly delineated in the Constitution. Mr. President, in the case of military operations in Libya you stated that authorization from Congress was not required because our military was not engaged in "hostilities." In addition, an April 1, 2011, memorandum to you from your Office of Legal Counsel concluded: "...President Obama could rely on his constitutional? power to safeguard the national interest by directing the anticipated military operations in Libya --- which were limited in their nature, scope and duration --- without prior congressional authorization." We view the precedent this option sets, where "national interest" is enough to engage in hostilities without congressional authorization, as unconstitutional. If the use of 221 Tomahawk cruise missiles, 704 Joint Direct Attack Munitions, and 42 Predator Hellfire missiles expended in Libya does not constitute "hostilities", what does? If you deem that military action in Syria is necessary, Congress can reconvene at your request.? We stand ready to come back into session, consider the facts before us, and share the burden of decisions made regarding US involvement in the quickly escalating Syrian conflict. Sincerely, Rep. Scott Rigell (VA-02) Rep. Matt Salmon (AZ-05) Rep. Mo Brooks (AL-05) Rep. Scott Garrett (NJ-05) Rep. Tom McClintock (CA-04) Rep. Tom Marino (PA-10) Rep. Dan Benishek (MI-01) Rep. Tom Rooney (FL-17) Rep. Steve Pearce (NM-02) Rep. Tim Griffin (AR-02) Rep. Justin Amash (MI-03) Rep. Raul Labrador (ID-01) Rep. Joseph Pitts (PA-16) Rep. Trent Franks (AZ-08) Rep. John Campbell (CA-45) Rep. Paul Gosat (AZ-04) Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (GA-03) Rep. Joe Wilson (SC-02) Rep. Charles Boustany (LA-03) Rep. Tom Cole (OK-04) Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX-01) Rep. Austin Scott (GA-08) Rep. Bill Posey (FL-08) Rep. Randy Forbes (VA-04) Rep. Phil Gingrey (GA-11) Rep. David Roe (TN-01) Rep. Mark Sanford (SC-01) Rep. John J. Duncan, Jr. (TN-02) Rep. Reid Ribble (WI-08) Rep. James Lankford (OK-05) Rep. Bill Cassidy (LA-06) Rep. Stephen Fincher (TN-08) Rep. Trey Radel (FL-19) Rep. Chris Stewart (UT-02) Rep. Lynn Jenkins (KS-02) Rep. Jeff Duncan (SC-03) Rep. David McKinley (WV-01) Rep. Gus Bilirakis (FL-12) Rep. Joseph Heck (NV-03) Rep. Dennis Ross (FL-15) Rep. Billy Long (MO-07) Rep. Randy Hultgren (IL-14) Rep Steven Palazzo (MS-04) Rep. Kevin Yoder (KS-03) Rep. Doug collins (GA-09) Rep. Beto O'Rourke (TX-16) Rep. Zoe Lofgren (CA-19) Rep Peter DeFargio (OR-04) Rep. Kurt Schrder (OR-5) Rep. Rush Holt (NJ-12) Rep. William Enyart (IL-12) Rep. Timothy Walz (MN-01) Rep. Christopher Gibson (NY-19) Rep. Trey Gowdy (SC-04) Rep. Frank Wolf (VA-10) Rep. Michael Capuano (MA-07) Rep. Michael Simpson (ID-02) Rep. Michael McCaul (TX-10) Rep. Thomas E. Petri (WI-06) Rep. Robert Pittenger (NC-09) Rep. Walter Jones (NC-03) Rep. Tom Latham (IA-03) Rep. Richard Nolan (MN-08) Rep. Jim McDermott (WA-07) Rep. Kerry Bentivolico (MI-11) Rep. Mike Coffman (CO-06) Rep. Sean Duffy (WI-07) Rep. Bruce Braley (LA-01) Rep. Morgan Griffith (VA-09) Rep. Brad Wenstrup (OH-02) Rep. Mark Amodei (NV-02) Rep. Roger Williams (TX-25) Rep. Doug LaMalfa (CA-01) Rep. Brett Guthrie (KY-02) Rep. Sam Farr (CA-20) Rep. Steve Daines (MT-At Large) Rep. Robert Hurt (VA-05) Rep. Steve Southerland, II (FL-2) Rep. Michelle Bachmann (MN-06) Rep. Ralph Hall (TX-04) Rep. Randy Neugebauer (TX-19) Rep. Robert Wittman (VA-01) Rep. Anna Eshoo (CA-18) Rep. David Schweikert (AZ-06) Rep. Todd Rokita (IN-4) Rep. David Loebsack (LA-02) Rep. Scott Tipton (CO-03) Rep. Frank LoBiondo (NJ-02) Rep. Earl Blumenauer (OR-03) Rep. Sam Johnson (TX-03) Rep. Tom Price (GA-06) Rep. Mark Meadows (NC-11) Rep. Paul Broun (GA-10) Rep. Markwayne Mullin (OK-02) Rep. Steve Stockman (TX-36) Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner (WI-05) Rep. Chris Collins (NY-27) Rep. Diane Black (TN-06) Rep. Daniel Webster (FL-10) Rep. Peter Welch (VT) Rep. Lou Barletta (PA-11) Rep. Tim Murphy (PA-18) Rep. Gregg Harper (MS-03) Rep. Jim Jordan (OH-04) Rep. Ted S. Yoho (FL-03) Rep. Bill Flores (TX-17) Rep. Michael Burgess (TX-26) Rep. Jim Matheson (UT-04) Rep. Cory Gardner (CO-04) Rep. Alan Nunnelee (MS-01) Rep. Jason Smith (MO-08) Rep. Charles Fleischmann (TN-03) Rep. Tim Walberg (MI-07) Rep. Marsha Blackburn (TN-07) Rep. Collin Peterson (MN-7) (116 Reps altogether) _______________________________________________ sosfbay-discuss mailing list sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Aug 29 19:14:53 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:14:53 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Tom Steyer, climate change, & civil disobedience In-Reply-To: <521FFFE3.80803@earthlink.net> References: <521FFFE3.80803@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5220001D.8060507@earthlink.net> "Opinion: We stand on the precipice of change" http://wwwp.dailyclimate.org/tdc-newsroom/2013/08/opinion-tom-steyer-mlk-dream "According to a fascinating poll that came out last week, 13 percent of Americans claim that they would commit some form of non-violent civil disobedience to get action on climate change." {About MLK on civil disobedience] "The first was his outline of the preparation needed for mass, non-violent protest. He advocated a four-step process of analysis, negotiation, self-purification, and, finally, confrontation. The ordering here was crucial; only after the first three stages did he advocate the last." Gerry From gerrygras at earthlink.net Thu Aug 29 19:58:59 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 19:58:59 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Banker Cartoon Message-ID: <52200A73.60409@earthlink.net> http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2013/08/29 Gerry From carolineyacoub at att.net Fri Aug 30 21:37:36 2013 From: carolineyacoub at att.net (Caroline Yacoub) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 21:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Fw: [SC-SM] Fwd: You're invited to Tabling at Community Connections Fair! In-Reply-To: <82C9602D-FA12-4E8F-BC2F-84D26BC33BD3@extragalactic.net> References: <1508496410.1377916053616.JavaMail.root@jobs0.meetup.com> <82C9602D-FA12-4E8F-BC2F-84D26BC33BD3@extragalactic.net> Message-ID: <1377923856.46677.YahooMailNeo@web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Gloria Purcell To: SC SM list Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 9:04 PM Subject: [SC-SM] Fwd: You're invited to Tabling at Community Connections Fair! Don't know if you already know about this? Gloria Begin forwarded message: From: Loma Prieta Chapter of the Sierra Club >Date: August 30, 2013 7:27:33 PM PDT >To: gloria at extragalactic.net >Subject: You're invited to Tabling at Community Connections Fair! > > > > >NEW MEETUP >Tabling at Community Connections Fair! >Loma Prieta Chapter of the Sierra Club >Added by Kenneth Rosales >Wednesday, September 4, 201310:00 AM >San Jos? State University1 Washington SqSan Jose, CA 95192 >Will you attend? >Yes No >Hello All!For the past few months, our Cool Cities Team leaders have been working hard to plan an?exciting?film-screening series!We have four screenings coming up of Mark Kitchell's?brand-new?documentary,?A Fierce Green Fire.Would you be intere...LEARN MORE >More Meetups from this group >SEP >07 Sierra Club Social in San Benito County > >Saturday, September 7, 2013 1:00 PM ?? 2 attending RSVP >SEP >09 Gasland 2 Film Screening!! > >Monday, September 9, 2013 6:00 PM ?? 21 attending RSVP >SEP >12 A Fierce Green Fire: The Battle for a Living Earth -- Film Screening, San Jose > >Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:30 PM ?? 2 attending RSVP >Follow us!?? >Unsubscribe?from similar emails from this Meetup Group >Add?info at meetup.com?to your address book to receive all Meetup emails >Meetup, POB 4668 #37895 NY NY USA 10163 >Meetup HQ in NYC is hiring!?meetup.com/jobs_______________________________________________sc-sm mailing listsc-sm at cagreens.orghttp://lists.cagreens.org/mailman/listinfo/sc-sm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Aug 31 11:17:48 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:17:48 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] President Obama's statements on Syria conflict In-Reply-To: <1377972452.66790.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1377965147.55884.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377972452.66790.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5222334C.2060208@earthlink.net> As Obama and Biden were walking back into the White House, someone asked "What if Congress disapproves?". They kept walking. Gerry John Thielking wrote: > Just now on CNN Obama's speech was given where Obama stated: > > 1) He is authorizing a strike on Syria, but; > > 2) He will seek Congressional approval for a strike. > > John Thielking > > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From snug.bug at hotmail.com Sat Aug 31 12:17:22 2013 From: snug.bug at hotmail.com (Brian Good) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:17:22 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] President Obama's statements on Syria conflict In-Reply-To: <5222334C.2060208@earthlink.net> References: <1377965147.55884.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, <1377972452.66790.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>, <5222334C.2060208@earthlink.net> Message-ID: "I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific Congressional authorization", Obama said. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/31/obama-makes-statement-on-syria/2751085/ He is asserting the neo-fascistic doctrine of the Unitary Executive when he claims he has the power to go it alone, and everybody who applauds his "decision" to consult Congress--as if he had any legal choice in the matter--is facilitating that doctrine. By putting the burden on Congress to punish Assad's alleged use of chemicals, he is distracting from the fact that Congress has no more legal right than he has to wage war on a country that is not a military threat to us. The debate about "should we or shouldn't we?" and "should Congress decide or Obama?" miss the point. We can't. Should is not an option. It is the job of the United Nations to punish crimes against humanity. Vigilante actions on humanitarian pretexts are poor precedent. They have been abused many times--which is why the checks and balances have been legislated by the UN charter. In furthering the Unitary Executive doctrine Obama is furthering the USA's status as a rogue terrorist state. > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:17:48 -0700 > From: gerrygras at earthlink.net > To: pagesincolor at yahoo.com; sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org; palestineis at dslextreme.com > Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] President Obama's statements on Syria conflict > > > As Obama and Biden were walking back into the > White House, someone asked "What if Congress > disapproves?". They kept walking. > > Gerry > > > John Thielking wrote: > > Just now on CNN Obama's speech was given where Obama stated: > > > > 1) He is authorizing a strike on Syria, but; > > > > 2) He will seek Congressional approval for a strike. > > > > John Thielking > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spencer.graves at prodsyse.com Sat Aug 31 12:17:49 2013 From: spencer.graves at prodsyse.com (Spencer Graves) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:17:49 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] President Obama's statements on Syria conflict In-Reply-To: <5222334C.2060208@earthlink.net> References: <1377965147.55884.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1377972452.66790.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <5222334C.2060208@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5222415D.8030704@prodsyse.com> Hello, All: I just posted a blog on "Intervening in Syria" to effectivedefense.org (https://sites.google.com/site/effectivedefenseorg/blog/intervening-in-syria). The first 84 of the 600 words are as follows: The record of US military action since World War II raises serious questions about the wisdom of intervening in Syria today: 1. The rationale for interventions of this type has often been contradicted by information available later. 2. The claimed benefits of military force have routinely been overstated. 3. Mission creep is inevitable. 4. The risk of blowback is high and rarely evaluated. 5. Instead, we should push harder for deescalation. Violence begets violence, while democracy and rule of law are promoted by nonviolence. Comments welcomed. Spencer On 8/31/2013 11:17 AM, Gerry Gras wrote: > > As Obama and Biden were walking back into the > White House, someone asked "What if Congress > disapproves?". They kept walking. > > Gerry > > > John Thielking wrote: >> Just now on CNN Obama's speech was given where Obama stated: >> >> 1) He is authorizing a strike on Syria, but; >> >> 2) He will seek Congressional approval for a strike. >> >> John Thielking >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sosfbay-discuss mailing list >> sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org >> http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss -- Spencer Graves, PE, PhD President and Chief Technology Officer Structure Inspection and Monitoring, Inc. 751 Emerson Ct. San Jos?, CA 95126 ph: 408-655-4567 web: www.structuremonitoring.com From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Aug 31 14:40:16 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:40:16 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Syrian Rebels Admit That THEY Were Responsible For Chemical Weapons Use In August 2013 In-Reply-To: <1377965147.55884.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1377965147.55884.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <522262C0.2040406@earthlink.net> The examiner article refered to a Minnesota article. It took a while to get through to the Minnesota article, but with patience I finally did: http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/ I wonder about the credibility of a news source I have never heard of. So I did some searching for info about Mint Press News. I have not found anything conclusive but here's some info about MintPress News: http://www.mintpressnews.com/about-us/ http://www.cjr.org/news_startups_guide/2012/03/mint-press-news.php http://uk.linkedin.com/company/mint-press-news https://twitter.com/MintPressNews http://www.youtube.com/user/MintPressNews http://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Mint-Press-News-Interview-Questions-E496652.htm https://plus.google.com/110548700815669751131/posts Some things I observed. It's supposed to be progressive. It has a special interest in the Middle East. It's about 2 years old. I have not found any info about who's funding it. I noticed that the CJR page mentioned a "Mnar Muhawesh", but the "About Us" page of the MPN does not. So I did a search for "Mnar Muhawesh" and found: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mnar-muhawesh/20/880/73 http://www.minnpost.com/david-brauer-blog/2012/01/who-mintpress-and-why-are-they-doing-all-hiring http://maplegrovemag.com/article/brendan-loney/maple-grove-young-entrepreneurs?page=0,3 http://www.startribune.com/nation/129467228.html (The Star Tribune item is about the effect of 9/11 on Minneapolis area people, including Mnar Muhawesh. Apparently it increased her interest in Islam.) http://islamicinsights.com/news/community-affairs/hijabi-news-anchor-breaking-barriers.html Gerry John Thielking wrote: > > See: > > http://www.examiner.com/article/syrian-rebels-admit-to-being-behind-chemical-weapons-attack?cid=rss > > for more information. Thanks. > > John Thielking > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss > From gerrygras at earthlink.net Sat Aug 31 14:42:20 2013 From: gerrygras at earthlink.net (Gerry Gras) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:42:20 -0700 Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Syrian Rebels Admit That THEY Were Responsible For Chemical Weapons Use In August 2013 In-Reply-To: <1377965147.55884.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1377965147.55884.YahooMailNeo@web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5222633C.5080508@earthlink.net> The examiner article referred to a Minnesota article. It took a while to get through to the Minnesota article, but with patience I finally did: http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/ I wonder about the credibility of a news source I have never heard of. So I did some searching for info about Mint Press News. I have not found anything conclusive but here's some info about MintPress News: http://www.mintpressnews.com/about-us/ http://www.cjr.org/news_startups_guide/2012/03/mint-press-news.php http://uk.linkedin.com/company/mint-press-news https://twitter.com/MintPressNews http://www.youtube.com/user/MintPressNews http://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Mint-Press-News-Interview-Questions-E496652.htm https://plus.google.com/110548700815669751131/posts Some things I observed. It's supposed to be progressive. It has a special interest in the Middle East. It's about 2 years old. I have not found any info about who's funding it. I noticed that the CJR page mentioned a "Mnar Muhawesh", but the "About Us" page of the MPN does not. So I did a search for "Mnar Muhawesh" and found: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mnar-muhawesh/20/880/73 http://www.minnpost.com/david-brauer-blog/2012/01/who-mintpress-and-why-are-they-doing-all-hiring http://maplegrovemag.com/article/brendan-loney/maple-grove-young-entrepreneurs?page=0,3 http://www.startribune.com/nation/129467228.html (The Star Tribune item is about the effect of 9/11 on Minneapolis area people, including Mnar Muhawesh. Apparently it increased her interest in Islam.) http://islamicinsights.com/news/community-affairs/hijabi-news-anchor-breaking-barriers.html Gerry John Thielking wrote: > > See: > > http://www.examiner.com/article/syrian-rebels-admit-to-being-behind-chemical-weapons-attack?cid=rss > > for more information. Thanks. > > John Thielking > > > _______________________________________________ > sosfbay-discuss mailing list > sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org > http://lists.cagreens.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sosfbay-discuss >