[GPSCC-chat] Fw: GPSCC Meeting minutes -- 7PM Thursday, Jan 24, 2013
Drew
rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 25 00:20:32 PST 2013
Yes I never actually made a real proposal about the "no brainer" event
endorsements, etc. -- I merely raised the question and so no of course I
didn't reply to the conversation that followed.
Also:
1) Note that at no point did anyone suggest we attempt to "raid" the Peace and Freedom Party member and at no point did anyone suggest we try to recruit them
to the Green Party. People we're only talking about inviting them to
participate as allies.
2) I'm not sure anyone said that Pete was disrespectful of other's points
of view, so I'm not sure where you (John) are getting that.
However the problem I believe was that Pete's outburst where he implied that (newly joined Green Party member) Dr. Sharat Lin was an "imperialist" came across to many witnesses as being entirely
unreasonable, illogical, without evidence, disruptive and entirely
without merit.. That is not a way to win friends and influence people -- or frankly to demonstrate
emotional safeness to be participating as a guest at Green Party events. I don't think any of the rest of us Greens (besides maybe you John) had any doubt about Dr. Lin's credibility since
after all he has a very long track record that many of us have observed, whereas we are unfamiliar with Pete. In my opinion it was Pete that undermined his welcome by his loss of temper.
And to the point that the communist party front group (that hides their affiliation) A.N.S.W.E.R. asserts that we should not criticize Iran --
who is A.N.S.W.E.R. anyway and why should anyone take such a rigid and
doctrinaire tack. That's not much
different from progressive Dems who say we should not criticize President Obama
because he's so much better than the Repuglicans. Sorry I don't by the
idea that any government is above
criticism.
Green is GO!
Drew
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> From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>To: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] GPSCC Meeting minutes -- 7PM Thursday, Jan 24, 2013
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>A few clarifications:
>
>When Drew proposed the County
Council decision mechanism where if no one objects to a sponsorship
proposal, it passes, both John and Spencer objected to that. Spencer
objected generally and John objected specifically citing how the default decision making process was already attempted for the planning of the
Iran-Syria talk and failed miserably.
>It was my understanding that
the proposal WAS DROPPED after that discussion and is not now in force. Drew and others were tasked with making more specific proposals
regarding how to make the meetings better? I'm not sure.
>
>Post meeting discussions with
Peace and Freedom Party member Pete O'Reilly yielded the following
points and suggestions re: plans to "work with" the Peace and Freedom
Party:
>
>1) It is not good politics to
raid the list of Peace and Freedom Party members and attempt to recruit
them to join the Green Party.
>
>2) Pete is well aware of
opposing points of view and while he did raise his voice in a way that
may only end up breeding contempt from people who don't share his point
of view, he at no point sought to exclude Sharat Lin from the Iran-Syria talk. So to say that he is disrespectful of other's points of view is
accurate only from the point of having his voice raised and not from the words that came out of his mouth. You should take a step back and try
to percieve the difference. Pete has heard Sharat Lin speak many times
on many topics, but Sharat Lin has not heard Pete speak on anything
yet. Pete would like it better to have a debate with Sharat and Answer
about Iran and Syria that is a serious debate, as was promissed awhile
ago (before John and Drew's most recent attempt at organizing an event).
>
>John Thielking
>
>--- On Thu, 1/24/13, Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com> wrote:
>
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>>From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>>Subject: GPSCC Meeting minutes -- 7PM Thursday, Jan 24, 2013
>>To: "John Thielking" <pagesincolor at yahoo.com>
>>Cc: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org
>>Date: Thursday, January 24, 2013, 9:19 PM
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>>On 1/24/2013 9:10 AM, John Thielking wrote:
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>>This is now the final agenda. I will print copies to bring to the meeting.
John Thielking --- On Wed, 1/23/13, John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> wrote: From: John Thielking <pagesincolor at yahoo.com> Subject: [GPSCC-chat] Draft Agenda For The GPSCC Meeting 7PM Thursday, Jan 24, 2013
To: sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org Date: Wednesday, January 23, 2013, 6:24 PM
Draft Agenda for Thursday, January 24, 2013 Green Party of Santa Clara County
GA meeting to be held at San Jose Peace Center 48 S 7th St, San Jose, CA.
Final Agenda will be published at 9AM Thursday. 7:00PM -7:30PM Arrive, socialize. Guest speaker Brian Good on: A. developing new technologies. 1. Many years I have been unhappy that there has been no high-tech reinvention of a Commodore 64, Texas Instruments 99, Radio Shack TRS-80, or Atari 800 that could plug into our TVs. 2. For many years I have wanted a belt-pack flash-drive video recorder so I can plug my flaky old mini-DV video cameras into a tapeless recorder. 3. Smart phone tech is bringing us a computing reinvention without Windows, without Apple, without Intel or AMD. It runs Linux, it's thumb-drive or credit card sized, it's cheap, and it's here. Google A10, A31, Raspberry Pi. B. third-generation California Disclose Act, SB52. Democrats hold 2/3 majorities in both Assembly and Senate so this year is likely to be the year we win. So join us! 7:30 Meeting begins. Identify facilitator: Jim Doyle
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>>note taker: Spencer
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>>time keeper: John Thielking
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>>vibes watcher: self monitoring
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>>and agenda preparer: Caroline
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>>for next meeting. 7:35 Introductions and announcements. Changes to agenda.
>>Caroline,
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>>Drew: Working on
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>>Brian Good, Jim Doyle, John Thielking,
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>>Spencer Graves:
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>>Paul
Rea, Newark: Works with Sharat on a film series: How to contact
Greens near Newark? **** (Drew can help make contact with other Greens
in Alameda County) (tri city area: Newark, Union City, Fremont).
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>>Ed Campbell. Lives in Willow Glen, retired chiropractor, coach basketball.
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>>Feb. 9: Bowling for Columbine in Newark.
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>>7:50 treasurer's report.
>> $1,686.38 + $55 from November minus $50 to Secretary of State
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>>Jim Doyle. Hat passing.
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>>* Propose that we invite the Jill Stein team to put on a Green Campaign School in our area. Jim Doyle, Caroline
>> *** Caroline to contact Jill Stein's team to get info
about cost, etc., and post to the discussion list. After we get the
cost, we need to make a decision on whether, when, where.
>>
>>
>>Wellstone Foundation: Feb. 8-9 (Friday noon to Saturday
>>"Camp Wellstone" at Sequoia Retreat Center
>>$30 - $100 (sliding scale) plus DeAnza tuition (2 credit units at DeAnza?) Drew will attend.
>>How to facilitate a group? Strategy for approaching a community? See Drew's email on this on the discussion list
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>>7:55 Report back on events that happened since the last meeting. Anti SS cuts protest in front of Lofgren's office, etc. 8:00 invited speakers, criteria for. Sandy Perry, Jim Doyle
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>> Currently, we have no criteria.
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>> Sandy: Invite speakers related to on-going campaigns.
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>>Campaigns: Single Payer (Sandy, Caroline), DeAnza (Sandy, Drew),
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>>How
does CA Single Payer differ from "Health Care for All"? Campaign for a
Healthy California is a coalition driven by nurses. Health Care for
All is their own organization, initiated in the 1990s. Their drawback
is mostly all white, ... .
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>> Caroline: We also need "climate" and 350.org.
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Caroline, Sandy, Brian Jim, Spencer to form a committee to select
topics for major campaigns: phone conference? Sandy has free
conference calling. Sandy to send email with suggested
times.
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>>8:10 organised ongoing campaigns Jim Doyle, Sandy Perry 8:20 udel - unincorporated district elections e.g., school, water, and fire districts Jim Doyle
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>> Jim will bring the list of elections to the next elections. Unincorporated districts come up in odd years.
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>>8:30 web site improvements Jim Doyle
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>> Drew has already studied CiviCRM by Campaign Foundations, built on Drupal:
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>>Also need training on CMS (Content Management System) Drupal(?)
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>>8:35 making meetings interesting, efficient, and enjoyable Jim Doyle, Drew Johnson
>> Starting to invite speakers. Good.
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>>
We operate too much as a committee as a whole. We would be better,
Drew believes, if we came together, broke into committees, and then came
back together.
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>> Sponsorship of events should be delegated to the County Council.
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>> We could use Google Hangout to make our meetings virtual, so people can attend without traveling.
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>> The exercise should be fun, energizing and productive.
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>> Drew to propose more material and send to the email list and report a summary at the next meeting.
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>> For sponsorship,
Drew suggests it gets posted and it passes if no one objects.
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>>8:50 establishing a social media committee Jim Doyle 8:55 recruiting with emphasis on females Jim Doyle
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>> Betsy Wolf-Graves is now on the County Council.
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>>9:00 Obtaining other people for the County Council and to represent Santa Clara County on the statewide Standing General Assembly. Santa Clara County is allowed 5 representatives on the statewide Standing General Assembly. We currently have only 3. John Thielking is currently not on that list; we should put him on. That
would bring us to 4, consisting entirely of our current County Council. Drew noted that our County Council is currently all male. Number 7 of the 10 key values of the Green Party is "Feminism and Gender Equity" (www.gp.org/tenkey.php). We could use some females.
>>John Thielking and Betsy Wolf-Graves will be added to the "sga".
>>
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>>* Endorse California
Disclose Act (Brian), SB52. Approved. Brian to provide us with the
info on what we have to do to get listed as an official endorser.
>>
>>
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>>9:05 PROPOSED: The Green Party of Santa Clara County will endorse the presentation of the movie "Enemy Alien" at the Peace Center, Saturday evening, March 23. Spencer DISCUSSION: "Enemy Alien" is a documentary describing the persecution of a Palestinian-American, Farouk Abdel-Muhti, essentially for being Palestinian and refusing to remain silent. The film was produced by a Japanese American, Konrad Aderer, whose parents had spent World War II in a concentration camp in the US (www.lifeorliberty.org/enemy-alien). The South Bay Committee Against Political Repression is organizing a presentation of this movie to be followed by a panel discussion
featuring a Japanese-American and an Arab-American. 9:10 Proposal to invite Peace and Freedom people to participate in our meetings and events. Caroline
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>> Add to discussion of "on-going campaigns".
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>>9:15 There is also a Latino activity going on on Friday that I will send you details of so it can go on the agenda as well. Caroline 9:20 propose a doing a cost benefit analysis of how we can make use of a new voters list.
Jim Doyle
>>Endorse: Dalit Baum presentation, Feb. 15.
>>
>>9:30 Meeting ends.
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