[GPSCC-chat] discussion vs. contention

[Drew]

Sure, that sounds like a great idea Spencer.  Thanks for the creative input!
 
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> From: Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>To: Drew <rainbeaufriend at yahoo.com> 
>Cc: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>; "sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org" <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:06 PM
>Subject: Re: [GPSCC-chat] discussion vs. contention
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>Hi, Drew, John, et al.:  
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>On 5/16/2013 1:22 PM, Drew wrote:
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>If it is only about personalities (which this is not) I agree with this sentiment, however just as any false or harmful statement made in public against others it needs to be challenged also in public.
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>      I see two problems here:   
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>            1.  One persons "facts" are another's potentially "false
    or harmful statements".  
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>            2.  Sometimes the more I say, the less I communicate. 
    This is particularly true with a long string of emails in the same
    thread in a list like this.  I haven't paid a lot of attention to
    this thread other than to see that Drew and John each have strong
    positions about something -- and the issues are easily
    misunderstood, because an email thread like this is a very poor tool
    for promoting understanding and reconciliation.  
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>      Would Drew and John mind moving this discussion to Wikiversity
    under the "Broad political discourse" initiative I'm trying to start
    there (http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Broad_political_discourse)?  In this forum, I would ask the discussion to be organized like a table with three columns with titles something like "heterodox" and "orthodox" with "research needed" between the two.  This would allow each side to present their case with the supporting evidence and the other to raise questions about the evidence.  With a little luck, after some formal analysis and organization of evidence, you can develop a consensus statement that could then be reposted back to the group.  
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>      I can provide technical assistance in creating a Wikiversity
    page for this and helping answer questions about the Wikimedia
    markup language so the discussion is actually productive, and it is
    easier to understand the different positions, the evidence behind
    same, and how a consensus might be reached.  
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>      Spencer 
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>>Green is GO!
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>>Drew
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>>>________________________________
>>> From: Caroline Yacoub <carolineyacoub at att.net>
>>>To: sosfbay-discuss <sosfbay-discuss at cagreens.org> 
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:08 PM
>>>Subject: [GPSCC-chat] discussion vs. contention
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>>>When something on our discussion list devolves into a personal contention, I think those involved should address their postings to each other rather than to the entire list.
>>>Caroline 
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